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From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leaked Emails
November 12, 2019

… The VDARE story by Steve Sailer, an anti-immigration activist who traffics in discredited race science,

Actually, according to a newly published peer-reviewed study of the views of top academic psychometricians, I am (or, admittedly, was in 2013-2014 when the survey was done) the most credited journalistic source on the scientific study of intelligence by scientists studying intelligence.

focused on instances in which the United States offered refugees temporary protected status. The article was posted the same day [Stephen] Miller shared it with McHugh.

… The administration has also attempted to cut TPS for residents of other countries, including Honduras and Nepal. Sailer mentioned both Honduras and Nepal in the context of TPS in his VDARE story.

My outrageous blog post largely consisted of me quoting Wikipedia’s list of the dozen different countries whose immigrants still enjoyed Temporary Protected Status as of 2015, including Hondurans still sheltered from the effects of Hurricane Mitch in 1998.

But I did make an amusing point at the end:

What are the odds that the New York Times demands that the Obama Administration put giant Mexico next on the list? In contrast, what are the odds that the New York Times demands that giant Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim use some of his sketchy fortune to alleviate the suffering of his fellow Mexicans in Mexico?

Why is the SPLC tarring Stephen Miller with guilt by association with me?

Because I am Bad.

How do we know I am Bad?

Just ask the SPLC!

It’s a seamless web of circular logic.

Now, you may ask: How can we know we should trust the SPLC?

Because all members of the SPLC have always been purer than the driven snow, leaving aside the SPLC’s recent secretive purges of Morris Dees, Richard Cohen, Mark Potok, Heidi Beirich, and just about anybody else you ever heard of at the SPLC. The details behind the purges remain un-announced. To clean up the SPLC’s Augean stables, the SPLC hired Tina Tchen, who made the phone call to Chicago State’s Attorney Kim Foxx to let Jussie Smollett walk, so you know you can trust her.

Anyway, guilt by association is a McCarthyite thing, it couldn’t possibly apply to the SPLC. The SPLC are the Good Guys and I’m a Bad Guy. What else could you possibly want to know?

By the way, I don’t recall ever meeting Stephen Miller or having any form of electronic interaction with him such as by email or telephone.

Note: I’m not ruling out smoke signals.

You know those fireballs of flame and smoke that randomly issue into the Los Angeles sky from the Waterworld show at Universal Studios?

Are you sure they are random?

C’mon, SPLC, you’ve got $471,000,000.oo.

Just dispatch a junior lawyer to sit through a month’s worth of Waterworld shows looking for clues as to how I communicate with Stephen Miller when he visits his parents in SoCal. Try not to get too splashed, though.

 
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  1. Anonymous[544] • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of guilt by association…

    https://culturewars.com/news/guilt-by-association?rq=Chesterton

    Guilt By Association
    March 25, 2007/ E. Michael Jones

    Taki and Joe Sobran were stand-up guys while Peter Brimelow not so much. I never knew V-Dare was kosher with Zionist ties. I also never knew Sam Francis had converted to Catholicism on his deathbed. And he received the sacraments from none other than Fr. Paul Scalia, the late Antonio Scalia’s son.

    …In the end, when Father Scalia entered his hospital room and asked him if he wanted the sacraments of the Church, Sam Francis chose the Higher Logos, and we can honor him by choosing the cause of Logos as we enter the next phase of the culture wars. Both Sam Francis’s deathbed conversion to Catholicism…

    • Replies: @Franz
  2. Jack D says:

    “Discredited race science” doesn’t actually mean discredited by actual scientists, just like “having a conversation about race” doesn’t actually mean having a conversation about race. WE, the SPLC, as your moral superiors, get to decide what is and is not discredited and a “conversation” means listening to us lecture to you. Capiche?

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  3. “I don’t recall ever meeting Stephen Miller or having any form of interaction with him such as by email or telephone.”

    Regrettably, neither does anyone else as of late.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. Jake says:

    Satan dearly loves the SPLC, which hates white heterosexuals and Christians as much as ole Scratch himself can hate those white trash beings.

  5. Southern Poverty Law Center =

    Lusty overreach. Won’t repent!
    Retry, prevent new Holocaust.
    Enter controversy, up wealth.

  6. Moshe says:

    Apparently you are a “White Nationalist”. Fortunately or unfortunately for you and/or I, “White Nationalism” is now apparently Jew-inclusive.

    What a complicated world we live in…

    ———

    I can’t help but wonder whether my part Sephardic brownish grandfather would cause me to be exiled from the white nationalist tent if I were to no longer be Jewish by, say, converting to Mormonism.

    I’m holding on to my options until the scores are called.

  7. A123 says:

    When will the hate groups SPLC and CAIR lose their non-profit status?

    It is quite obvious they do not meet the requirements of 501(c)(3).

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  8. El Dato says:

    who traffics in discredited race science

    Possibly worse than trafficking in slightly used perchlorate-laden crystal meth.

    Hatewatch reviewed more than 900 previously private emails Miller sent to Breitbart editors from March 4, 2015, to June 27, 2016.

    Hatewatch reviews this, Hatewatch reviews that … but how did they get ahold of private e-mails in the first place? What does the law say about that?

    I expect an … yes!!

    racist French novel “The Camp of the Saints”

    That chestnut never gets old. Can we also discuss Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”?

    Finally, after 5963 words of painfully detailed parsing of Miller Emails and linking this to sundry other hate actors, the last phrase:

    “It was evident to me Miller was not interested in a multicultural society,” he said.

    Clapter!

  9. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:

    The essential problem is once you make it not respectable to talk about any of these issues, only people who don’t care about respectability (Eccentrics who are often also quite uncharismatic and prone to unusual opinions, that society generally ignores in all contexts) or are extremists will talk about it.

    Then whenever an occasional person pops their head above the parapet, they will go ‘Aha! You say X, then you’re just like the skinheads etc because they’re the only ones who also say X’. Which makes everyone who isn’t that conceal their true opinions and the cycle goes on. This is very powerful vis-a-vis academia.

    When it comes to immigration this is particularly insane because it’s such that a lot of the hard-core anti-Trump people are also for reduced immigration but don’t like the tone in which Trump pursues that goal.

    A lot of the other controversial things Steve says shouldn’t have any bearing on either issues of immigration or the hereditary patterns of intelligence but since both are radioactive topics in the current year, they become so because Steve becomes so prominent in advocating them because very few other people will.

    • Agree: Dtbb, International Jew
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @J.Ross
  10. I’m curious how the SPLC got these emails, which it says were leaked. By whom? The CIA, perhaps? They seem to want to run the country these days.

    All I can say is that everything in the Hate Watch report only increases my respect for Miller.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Dan Hayes
    , @Charon
  11. @Reg Cæsar

    Enter controversy, up wealth.

    Pure genius! Are you listening Anonymous 680?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  12. …by Steve Sailer, an anti-immigration activist who traffics in discredited race science…

    Interesting that nothing in the nymag article that they linked to actually has any discrediting.

  13. JohnnyD says:

    It would be amazing if incompetent affirmative action hires took over the SPLC and ran the organization into the ground.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  14. Cortes says:

    The wokesters beginning to give your name the oxygen of publicity must be more than half the battle, Shirley?

  15. @kaganovitch

    Pure genius!

    Thanks, but it’s simply practiced goldpanning, nothing more.

    Are you listening Anonymous 680?

    For a second there, I thought you were referring to some juicy podcast.

    Southern Poverty Law Center = A set-up recently overthrown.

  16. A123 says:

    Oh yes, I almost forgot today’s humor ….

  17. Thomas says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I’m curious how the SPLC got these emails, which it says were leaked. By whom? The CIA, perhaps? They seem to want to run the country these days.

    He trusted a conservathot.

    Hatewatch reviewed more than 900 emails Miller sent to former Breitbart editor Katie McHugh between 2015 and 2016. McHugh was fired from Breitbart in 2017 for posting anti-Muslim tweets, but she has since renounced the far-right.

    https://www.axios.com/emails-stephen-miller-white-nationalist-content-fa3c67e6-a443-4fc8-8b71-4cf57d6aec01.html

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Rosie
    , @R.G. Camara
  18. J.Ross says:

    >activist
    I laughed out loud at this. It’s clearly a way of saying “nobody,” cf “blogger,” but of course how would they know how inactive Steve is. And how many lefty activists are lionized in the mass media as something else, because calling them what they are would be disparaging? Advocates, organizers, tireless voices, “is working to bring about X,” etc..

  19. Dan Hayes says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Harry Baldwin:

    Paranoids would say the whole purpose of the leaks was to increase respect for Miller.

  20. This means you’re Big Time, right?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  21. @JohnnyD

    Isn’ t that what’s happening now? I hope it is.

  22. Rosie says:
    @Thomas

    He trusted a conservathot.

    Of course, this type of language will be tremendously helpful in appealing to the mainstream.

    Even the dissident right observes norms of decency when it comes to blacks, but not women.

  23. Rosie, cool it with the female sarcasm and listen to Queen of The Slipstream by Van Morrison

  24. Thomas says:
    @Rosie

    Of course, this type of language will be tremendously helpful in appealing to the mainstream.

    Language! Muh mainstream appeal!

    • Replies: @Rosie
  25. @Rosie

    Someone call the waaaaaaambulance.

    Race is is not gender, sweetie. Go bake a cake.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Reg Cæsar
  26. It makes me like Miller more….. andI can forgive his lapse with the THOT. Many a man has succumbed to that weakness.

    In any event, I hope Miller doesn’t get pushed out by Javanka over this.

  27. @Rosie

    Even the dissident right observes norms of decency when it comes to blacks, but not women.

    The “alt-right” is awfully left on social issues other than race. I’m guessing many didn’t know their fathers. This particular term seems to derive from black street patois.

    So on these three counts, they’re wiggers.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Pericles
  28. @Thomas

    Looking back, its easy to visually see why the Right has lost the culture war for the last 50 years. How many so-called right-wing thought/movement leaders were female? So, so many, and so many propped up by the Establishment.

    Seriously, Fox News just made it more prominent how we’ve been being led by so many women. Outside of perhaps Ann Coulter, not one of them was actually interested in winning or fixing things or saving traditional America; they were in it to lose and look pretty and make a quick buck.

    Remember, in the Bible, one of God’s specific punishments for Israel when they misbehave is that they will have women rule over them. And when that happens, things go south real fast.

    • Replies: @SFG
  29. Rosie says:
    @Thomas

    Language! Muh mainstream appeal!

    Yes, some of us are actually hoping that the dissident right actually accomplishes something other than providing a safe space for woman-haters.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Whiskey
  30. anon[907] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    LOL!
    Ingroup preference in sight.

    Rosie has no problem with women lying to men, betraying men, helping their enemies including the SPLC. Just don’t refer to a lying, betraying, probably fornicating women in a less than complimentary way, because “decency”.

    Protip: Rosie, don’t you ever read the Bible. It will deeply offend you. Especially the mean things in there about Jezebel, heroine of all feminists.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
  31. anon[907] • Disclaimer says:

    By the way, I don’t recall ever meeting Stephen Miller or having any form of interaction with him such as by email or telephone.

    A truly innocent person would never even think of this denial. Your denial proves your guilt.
    However, perhaps a large donation to the SPLC can reduce that guilt to something manageable. Used bills in small denominations might be best.

  32. Because I am Bad.


    Steve Sailer and his readers

    • LOL: Dan Hayes, Desiderius
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  33. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Darwin's Sh-tlist

    In fact it’s the most, deservedly, salutory wideish circulation story ever written about our humble host imo.

  34. Anyway, guilt by association is a McCarthyite thing, …

    Hey, take it easy on the guy. He was slandered just as you and Mr. Miller are, though, granted, this “seamless web of circular logic lies” is more dastardly.

    By the way, I don’t recall ever meeting Stephen Miller or having any form of interaction with him such as by email or telephone.

    It’s a damn shame for everyone that you hadn’t.*

    BTW, I didn’t know you were into trafficking. I guess trafficking is not just about cocaine and underage girls anymore. Either way, young Greta Thunberg has likely disabused the notion out of millions of potential human traffickers.

    .

    * I’m guessing Steven Miller at least reads VDare, though.

  35. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    The essential problem is once you make it not respectable to talk about any of these issues…

    What is your solution then?

  36. dkdkdj says:
    @Rosie

    Rosie, despite your pleasant name, you’ve left a rather clear fingerprint online of being an extremely unpleasant creature. You oughtn’t be lecturing others.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Stan Adams
  37. McHugh was fired from Breitbart in 2017 for posting anti-Muslim tweets, but she has since renounced the far-right.

    One of the things that’s worrisome about doing work for alt-right organizations is the possibility that someone on the inside will decide to switch sides and do whatever damage they can with what they know. This happened to American Renaissance a few years ago. Under a pseudonym, I do graphics work for an organization called a hate group by the SPLC and if someone on the inside wanted to name names they could create problems for me.

    Obviously, this doesn’t happen at left-wing organizations because there is no reward for renouncing your leftism.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @moshe
  38. Some people traffic in contraband Coor’s Beer.

    Others traffic in Discredited Race Science.

    Ol Potok’s got them ears on, and he’s hot on your trail.
    He ain’t gonna rest ’til you’re in jail.
    So you got to dodge ‘im and you got to duck ‘im,
    you got to keep that diesel truckin’.
    Just put that hammer down and give it hell.

  39. Hesiod says:
    @Rosie

    Rosie detects Thotcrime! REEEE!

    • LOL: Thomas
  40. J.Ross says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    It’s worrysome but it’s also another proof that we’re right.

  41. Rosie says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Someone call the waaaaaaambulance.

    Race is is not gender, sweetie. Go bake a cake.

    And this is why we have to have sexual harassment laws.

  42. J.Ross says:
    @Altai

    Rand Paul went on Rachel Maddow’s show years ago and got boxed into effectively saying that he did not thank God on a daily basis for the Civil Rights era anti-discrimimation legislation. A maddeningly stupid NPR program “caught” prosecutors admitting they reject black jurors, without ever wondering why. For some time now the game has been to delegitimize right wing voices by catching them crossing a magic line. The worst Republicans are the ones who actually believe that this magic line is real, fair, and sensible, and that, when it comes to them, the line cannot simply be moved.

  43. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Rosie

    The Left, the Poz, is based on White Women. Nice White ladies who … HATE HATE HATE the vast majority of White men for the unforgiveable sin of being beta. Its what drives White replacement (get those beta males), SJW activism whenever and wherever White nerdy dudes congregate: Linux Kernel Development, Open Source Software, Baseball Stats, Gaming (get those beta males!) and its reflected in the Democratic and Left leadership throughout the West.

    The West is led by vapid pretty boys (White women voters), haggard old crones (White women voters), and all sorts of SJW women (White women voters). The Democratic Party is being fought over by an aging old White male fart, soon to fade, a nasty Wine Granny on her second husband, a gay dude, with the shadow of Hillary hanging over everything.

    We have a White woman problem — nearly every pathology from Prohibition onwards can be traced to Nice White Ladies: Mass Third World Immigration, the Civil Rights Movement, gun grabbing, SJW virtue spiraling, and the Global Warming farce with the sacred nutty Greta-Scold.

    Look at Kimberly Guillefoyle. She’s Gavin Newsome’s leftovers, at best. And she’s slamming Donald Jr.’s fans at his book tour calling them incel White nationalist losers, saying the Wall will never get built, and praising McCain while noting the future is non-White. Or take the late Jo Ellison, murdered by some local nutcase in her MP constituency. She spent all her time and energy on refugees and Muslims, not her local people. No surprise, women have zero/zilch/nada loyalty to their men, its hardwired (“Oh conqueror kill my brother and father and sons, but take ME as your main concubine!”) Expecting loyalty and racial solidarity from White women is like expecting horses to do Calculus. It just can’t be done, biologically.

    Outreach to women is useless, like cat training. They want what they want — non stop Kardashians, White male bashing, more immigrants, more gays, more poz. Inside every nice White lady is a Katie Hill — indeed she’s the very model of a Soccer Mom (and threesome throuple). Rather we need to appeal to most White men and make them into an ADL Lawfare force to be reckoned with — inspiring fear and terror in those who bash White men. Women respond only to power and status, so make White men the top instead of the bottom and they’ll come along. Its not like women want to think (in an emergency they are capable of it but mostly avoid it for feelz).

    • Replies: @Rosie
  44. Rosie says:
    @dkdkdj

    Rosie, despite your pleasant name, you’ve left a rather clear fingerprint online of being an extremely unpleasant creature. You oughtn’t be lecturing others.

    I may not be “pleasant,” but I am certainly a great deal less repugnant than the resident Unz woman-haters.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  45. Rosie says:
    @anon

    LOL!
    Ingroup preference in sight.

    Rosie has no problem with women lying to men, betraying men, helping their enemies including the SPLC. Just don’t refer to a lying, betraying, probably fornicating women in a less than complimentary way, because “decency”.

    Um, no.

    The original post wasn’t talking only about Kqtie McHugh when he used the term “thot.”

    He was talking about all women.

    Let him correct me if I’m wrong.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  46. @Rosie

    ROFL.

    Someone call the waaaaaaambulance.

    Race is is not gender, sweetie. Go bake a cake.

    And this is why we have to have sexual harassment laws

    Only in the fevered mind of a delusional female was that sexual harassment.

    And of course Rosie supports the full prosecution and imprisonment of anyone making fun of womyn kind. Because dang that free speech, women’s feewings are hurt!

    Go. Bake.A. Cake.

    And Islam is right about women.

    • Replies: @djccj
    , @Rosie
  47. J.Ross says:

    Colleges are monitoring applicants’ internet use.

    at least 44 public and private universities across the United States have started to work with third-party companies to collect and track data on prospective students, including web browsing activity and financial history.

    the tracking process begins as soon as a student first directs their browser to a school’s website….called a cookie, is typically associated with online advertising. …those cookies are used to gauge a person’s interest in the university.
    …tracks their activity, on site and off, and can use data about the person’s location and interests to determine who the student is. That information is given to the admissions office to pair with existing data about the student, including their name, contact information, and additional details about their life like when they are graduating and what areas of the school they showed interest in based on activity on the site, and where the student lives….

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/14/colleges-quietly-rank-prospective-students-based-their-personal-data/

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  48. moshe says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    True. If something similar occured in reverse the person would be hounded until they were prosecuted for this or for whatever they could possibly be prosecuted.

    That’s the problem with the silent majority. They (read: you) are cowards. Oh, you’ll vote and comment anonymously and “hear, hear” the fellow at the dinner table with cojones enough to speak his mind but as soon as he’s under the enemy’s microscope you’ll run, hide and disassociate.

    You’ve got too much respectability at stake.

    And that’s why the shrill, mentally ill, pseudo-left keeps winning.

    Sure, you’ll give Nixon 49 out of 50 states but as soon as he shows the slightest hint of suffering from the pressure of the menstrual left (I’m using that term both to annoy those who deserve to be annoyed and because it has enough accuracy to deserve the occasional mention) – as soon as he shows the slightest hint of suffering from the pressure of the menstrual left you all hold your breath and hope that he is sacrifice enough for the crazy ones.

    And those were the Good Ole Days!

    Today there’s nary a man left.

    Wanna know how a silent majority responds to shrillness? Like Madrid responded to Barthelona.

    You don’t need to shout as loud as the children or to out-argue them. You just take away their noisemakers and put them in a time out.

    It’s quite simple really.

    A fully American example to follow would be the ACLU – back when it was run by Jewish Men.

    The ACLU made their point about principles by taking on the cases of people and institutions that they themselves didn’t necessarily care for.

    They acted like unafraid adults and were taken seriously as such. The silent sane majority that doesn’t believe that The Current Year’s Hysteria should rule the day however is so cowed that they end up with Donald F. Trump as their torchbearer because he’s the only one who can withstand all of the shaming of the left without feeling any shame at all or wondering where his supposed allies are. Any other torchbearer wouldn’t want followers who would stick with him if he shot someone on 5th Avenue, and would therefore feel a bit peeved by the crashing silence of his supposed supporters when the maniac pseudo-left goes after him for nonsense. Only a trump doesn’t care and therefore that’s what the silent majority gets. And deserves.

    Neither Madrid nor the ACLU needed to raise their voices. They spoke in the measured tones of adults and won the day.

    The terrified silent majority however when faced with each new year’s Caitlyn Jennerisms just grumbles in its internet corner and therefore deserves the stomping it receives.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  49. @A123

    When will the hate groups SPLC and CAIR lose their non-profit status?

    When AIPAC registers as a foreign agent.

    • Replies: @Lot
  50. @El Dato

    “It was evident to me Miller was not interested in a multicultural society,” he said.
    Clapter!
    – – – – – – – –
    Pardon my ignorance, but what does the interjection “Clapter!” mean?

    Oh, should’ve thought of Urban Dictionary:

    clapter =
    A “joke”, often making a political or social statement, whose purpose is to make the audience applaud and agree instead of laugh. Popular with hack comedians and their fans.
    [Example:] Did Margaret Cho tell a single joke during that performance? Her entire show was just left-wing clapter.

    This word seems to be an update of a word from a century or two ago:
    claptrap = showy, insincere, empty talk or writing, intended only to get applause or notice

  51. Fallable says:

    “Steve Sailer…who traffics in discredited race science…”

    Hey Sailer, I’m not sure if you’re aware, but in a recent video uploaded to the Jolly Heretic, Dr. Edward Duttons YouTube channel, Michael A Woodley of Menie was giving a lecture on “Consanguinity and Democracy” and credited you as being the first to propose the theory that those populations that are more consanguineous tend to be less democratic. Spoiler alert, they tested your theory and you were correct.

    Link for those interested…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Lot
  52. @Fallable

    Thanks.

    I got some of the idea from anthropologist Stanley Kurtz. I should have given him credit in my 2003 article.

  53. @R.G. Camara

    They seem to be trying for the New England Patriots of baseball label. Someone should tell them ,that only works with an arch-villain / Belichick figure and Chaim Bloom is already taken.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  54. djccj says:
    @R.G. Camara

    I know. LOL. Sexual Harassment laws.

    Rosie is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Women are so capable of ruining men they LIVE WITH and now we’ve gone and let them dictate the culture we all live under when outdoors as well.

    It’s hilarious that the best any man can hope for now is to be allowed his “man cave”. How incredibly embarrassing is that??

    BTW, if womenkind ever got their wish and men got used to being asexual/gay/trans/whatever, women woild be out of slave labor. The only reason we don’t collectively just tell them to stfu when they start demanding special privileges is because of the influence of our not-very-logical second head. If they end up successfully drugging/saltpetering that fella into somnolence they’d have to build civilization on their own instead of coaxing us into doing it

    Good luck with that.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
  55. @Darwin's Sh-tlist

    Conservatism Inc was fine withe the SPLC when they were only attacking Buchanan and Immigration Restrictionists. Don’t forget how Neocons cited the SPLC in their smear campaigns against FAIR, NumbersUSA, Vdare. The SPLC only fell out of favor with the GOPe when they decided to broaden their scaremongering Con game to vilify Social Conservatives, Anti-Feminists, & opponents of Affirmative Action.
    The Never Trump crew will gladly make alliance with the SPLC to destroy immigration restrictionism if the SPLC will lay off Social Conservatives for a while.
    Demographic Upheaval & Voter Replacement is their most cherished goal.

  56. @Kaganovitch

    lol. Patriots haters: you can do better.

    What’s your next silly claim, that Deflategate was real and caused all the Super Bowl wins?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  57. @J.Ross

    How are these cookies supposed to be legal? They seem to violate basic wiretapping (and other) laws.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  58. Thomas says:
    @Rosie

    He was talking about all women.

    Let him correct me if I’m wrong.

    Name five dissident right women of any prominence (say, over 500,000 Google references).

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @al gore rhythms
  59. @Just Saying

    This is the next step in Steve’s ascent to SuperVillain-hood. Mark my words; in the next Spiderman movie there will be a shot of Tom Holland brooding on top of the Chrysler building watching a giant size Daily Bugle electronic Billboard with the headline
    SAILER & SPIDERMAN THREATEN CITY, ARE THEY IN LEAGUE?

  60. Ron Unz says:

    This post happened to catch my eye, and I glanced over the SPLC article attacking that Miller fellow. It runs about 6,000 words and I’m not sure I’ll bother reading it, but I noticed a few interesting things…

    Just as might be expected, the whole SPLC attack is “guilt by association,” and Ctrl-F reveals a full 14 references to VDare, with the website characterized in very harsh terms. Yet although there are several mentions of Steve and his writings, there is absolutely no reference to this webzine, despite being Steve’s primary venue.

    Offhand, this might seem extremely odd. My own guess is that much of the material we publish is 10x as “controversial” as anything VDare has ever run, and many of my own personal articles, including those that have spent over a year on the Home page, might be up in the 30x or 40x potency range. Moreover, I think our traffic these days is something like 10x that of VDare, seemingly making us an extremely juicy target.

    Now admittedly, I don’t know that Miller fellow, but the horrifying VDare post that Miller supposedly shared was actually republished by VDare from this website. And that would surely have made it very, very easy for the SPLC to use the connection as a opening to begin cataloguing the unspeakingly horrifying list of transgressions we regularly feature, easily expanding the length of their attack on Miller by adding another 6,000 words. Yet the silence has been totally deafening. Puzzling…

    Another curiosity is that my own regular email distribution list includes at least a hundred or so reasonably prominent mainstream journalists, academics, and public intellectuals whom I’ve known, and seemingly not a single one of them has seen fit to “blow the whistle” on the dozens of horrifying articles they’ve received over the last couple of years. Puzzling again…

    Here’s my own hypothesis…

    As everyone knows, there are certain “powerful groups” in our society that so terrify members of the media and political worlds that they receive the “Lord Voldemort Treatment,” with mainstream individuals being terrified that merely speaking the name would result in destruction. Indeed, the SPLC is one of the primary enforcers of that edict.

    However, my theory is that even those dread Lord Voldemorts greatly fear an even more dreadful Lord Voldemort of their own, namely this webzine. The SPLC writer knew perfectly well that mere mention of The Unz Review might ensure his destruction. I’d guess that the ADL/SPLC/AIPAC has made this prohibition absolutely clear to everyone in the media/political worlds.

    To some extent, I discussed this phenomena in a couple of pieces last year, primarily focused on the ADL:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/has-the-adl-gone-into-hiding/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

    One way to test my hypothesis would be for some of the readers here to contact that SPLC author and bring to his attention the contents of five or six of my most controversial articles, thereby seemingly providing him material for a long series of follow-up pieces.

    My guess it that the resulting SPLC silence will remain deafening…

  61. @R.G. Camara

    What’s your next silly claim, that Deflategate was real and caused all the Super Bowl wins?

    Not me, Deflategate was innumerate nonsense and in a just world, Roger Goddell would be out of a job.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jim Don Bob
  62. @R.G. Camara

    Race is is not gender, sweetie. Go bake a cake.

    Nothing is gender, because gender is nothing.

    That’s why languages cannot agree on how many there are. From zero (English, Estonian, Turkish) to 20 (Shona) to over a hundred (Tuyuca).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_type_of_grammatical_genders

    Cake, for example:

    Masculine– German, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Irish
    Feminine– Welsh, Old English
    Common– Dutch, Danish
    Neuter– Russian, White Russian, Greek
    “What is ‘gender’?”– English, Finnish, Hungarian, Basque, Lao

  63. @Ron Unz

    This is a good idea Ron. I will try to help. It is best to think of the SPLC as just one point of a Smear Triangle, with the other two points being ADL/HIAS, and MediaMatters/SleepingGiants/Soros/LegacyMedia.

    They’re all going to be averse to attacking Unz Review for three reasons.

    -They don’t want to name you, direct traffic here & fear your influence

    -They suspect you are Anti-Fragile, and they won’t be able to use lawfare, ISP intimidation or other trickery to harm you

    -Your offering of content exposes the phoniness of their policy stances. They’ve largely become about Coercion, Domination, & Monopolism in recent decades while many in the DEM Base are still under the illusion that the DEM party is synonymous with Peace, Non-Interventionism, Freedom of Speech, Open Debate etc. They represent an Iron Fist. Not doves & enlightenment.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  64. Charon says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The CIA, perhaps? They seem to want to run the country these days.

    Insofar as the CIA represents a core segment of the Deep State, they’ve been running the country just about forever.

    Anyway, as you can see in the comments here, it doesn’t appear to have been the CIA/DS, just a single turncoat. But it’s all okay because the turncoat is a woman, as Rosie helpfully explains.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  65. SFG says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Remember, in the Bible, one of God’s specific punishments for Israel when they misbehave is that they will have women rule over them. And when that happens, things go south real fast.

    OK, that explains a lot about modern Jewry.

  66. Charon says:
    @Ron Unz

    My own guess is that much of the material we publish is 10x as “controversial” as anything VDare has ever run

    There’s little doubt of that, but VDare is much more focused. I’m sure they’ll come after you at some point, but the fact is that some of the articles you’ve published are almost sympathetic to their point of view.

    This comes with the territory of publishing a wide range of perspectives. So you’re not as pure a target as VDare, and besides being deplatformed VDare is nearly broke. And they know that.

    Hence, the likelihood of delivering an effective coup de grace is much greater in that direction. And total silencing is the ultimate goal, after all.

  67. @Jack D

    Social “Scientists” have attacked psychometrics which actually does replicate, and promoted their own “research” that doesn’t. However according to the SPLC the social “scientists” are the experts, and those they attack are discredited, got that? DISCREDITED I SAY!!!

  68. @Rosie

    This is why there are no important female philosophers.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  69. Steve can you measure if traffic to your blog increases after this free promo by SPLC?

    All publicity is good publicity. Now if we could only do something about the look of this site… Taki Mag is so much more inviting with the warm colours, cartoons and elegant layout. Makes it more readable and ‘presentable’, if someone looked over my shoulder they’d think I’m reading a New Yorker or something instead of a hotbed of ideas that could get you instantly fired and ejected from several career paths/polite society.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  70. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    Very interesting point. Were these cookies from the tech behemoths, the only possible fallout would be a small fine from the EU, and Congress and the media would be screaming for more such cookies to protect them from invisible Russians. These cookies are coming from universities — lately, a skittish and lawsuit-vulnerable group — and targeting applicants, whose parents have demonstrated an eagerness to sue or cry foul. The article’s from October though and nothing has happened.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  71. @Ron Unz

    As everyone knows, there are certain “powerful groups” in our society that so terrify members of the media and political worlds that they receive the “Lord Voldemort Treatment,”

    You know, we make fun of lefties for using Harry Potter analogies, but she really was onto something with the whole He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named thing.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  72. J.Ross says:
    @Charon

    Eric Ciamarella is not a woman.
    Not yet, anyway.
    Eric Ciamarella was very close to outspoken sedition agent John Brennan, who had been running the CIA, so he doesn’t look very alone or non-representative.
    Supposedly IG Horowitz’s report is coming out around Thanksgiving and will tie Democrats to agencies in criminally prosecutable sedition.

    • Replies: @Charon
  73. Dan Hayes says:
    @Ron Unz

    Proprietor Ron,

    Using the immortal words of Senator/Governor Lowell Weicker: The Powers-that-Be regard you as the turd in their punch bowl!

  74. @Rosie

    A man can like, even love a woman, but dislike, even hate her behaviour.

    Criticising typical female behaviour, like abusing trust of a man they feel not sexually attracted to, does therefore not mean hating women.

    Spurned men can get of course quite emotional and lose clarity in their wording … hence perhaps your misunderstanding 😉

    • Replies: @Rosie
  75. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well done, Triple Anagram Score.

    Here words in that triple anagram reblended with the original (“Southern Poverty Law Center”), to make an anagram-poem about the dramatic-arc of the US political commissar org:

    ____________

    Enter, new Southern Poverty Law Center
    “Holocaust retry!”
    Lusty controversy; Wealth up;
    Overreach;
    Won’t repent…
    Prevent?
    ____________

  76. Lot says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Israel isn’t “foreign,” it is a semi-autonomous American protectorate.

    Some people don’t like that, but the majority of the population in both countries do, so tough cookies.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  77. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz

    “ The SPLC writer knew perfectly well that mere mention of The Unz Review might ensure his destruction. I’d guess that the ADL/SPLC/AIPAC has made this prohibition absolutely clear to everyone in the media/political worlds.”

    No delusions of self importance and grandeur here, nosiree Bob.

    “ my own regular email distribution list includes at least a hundred or so reasonably prominent mainstream journalists”

    Creeping dementia isn’t a pretty sight, so they hit “block sender” and you go to spam.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  78. Lot says:
    @Fallable

    “ populations that are more consanguineous tend to be less democratic.”

    There are a million confounding variables strongly correlated with both “avoids incest” and “capable of self government.”

    Most good qualities at both the individual and population level are correlated.

  79. Wilkey says:

    focused on instances in which the United States offered refugees temporary protected status

    Used here the word “temporary” means temporary like in the way that death is sometimes temporary. Democrats keep referring to people who have been here “temporarily” for nearly two decades as “temporary,” then complain how evil we are not to let them stay permanently.

    When the TPS program was created, sometime back in the early 90s (1990, iirc) the citizens of America were *promised by Congress* that people who received the status would only receive it *temporarily.* FFS, the word *temporary* is in the fucking name of the program. Yet here so many of them still are, some of them 20 years later, telling us how mean and dishonest it was that their *temporary* status isn’t actually permanent.

    But here’s the real question: do the citizens of this country have any right to expect that our goddamned politicians be honest with us anymore? I guess not. Our so-called Republic has become a sick, pathetic joke. Just yesterday our Supreme Court justices were seriously arguing over whether the president has the right to create millions of new citizens with just the wave of his hand, and at least four of them sure seem to think so – so long as those millions of new citizens aren’t blonde white conservative Christians.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  80. Franz says:
    @Anonymous

    I also never knew Sam Francis had converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.

    I’m from a Catholic family, and although I shook it off long ago, I clearly remember that deathbed conversions were frowned upon. I had priests and nuns in the family, one a Jesuit MD, and they knew their stuff. It’s why Constantine never became a saint.

    Francis died of a botched surgery and it’s entirely possible he was still barely conscious. Certainly under stress and the effects of anesthesia. Obviously someone there wanted him converted, but I’d take the Constantine interpretation on this.

    Deathbed conversions and last-minute will changes have very little credibility with most people.

  81. @kaganovitch

    Not me, Deflategate was innumerate nonsense and in a just world, Roger Goodell would be out of a job.

    As was his father, 49 years ago:

    5 Reasons James Buckley’s 1970 Senate Race Is Not a Precedent for a Right-Wing Challenge to Trump

    This was also the election that threw out the Legislature that legalized elective abortion earlier that year. The new legislature passed a repeal– unfortunately vetoed by the governed who appointed the elder Goodell to the Senate.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  82. @Franz

    Although I don’t care for religious conversions as something fundamentally important, I don’t see them as something bad or superficial, either. So, I don’t think that people who took that step- for instance Buffalo Bill, Lawrence Auster, John Wayne, William Quantrill, Ernst Juenger, Hans Frank (close to death), Oscar Wilde, Wild Bill Longley (sort of) …. are in any way wrong. That was their life, after all.

    Actually- this is a great stuff. You live your life as a full-blown sinner & then, close to death, you repent & convert. Devout people can only cringe at this fabulous spectacle.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  83. @Reg Cæsar

    Fascinating. So he comes from a long line of back stabbing sleazeballs. It illuminates his career.

  84. @Ron Unz

    Ron, in some ways I don’t want to see the results of this test. It’s great that someone is standing up to the lyin’ PC BS out of this supposed authority on hate, the $LPC. OTOH, I want the site to go on. Your theory that these people are scared of you is not one I totally agree with either.

    My hypothesis is that the change in personnel from smart/deluded/evil white people to AA hires (note Steve’s listing of the people who have been purged and Miss T-Chen and the rest of the old-fashioned race hustlers getting positions) at the $LPC will result in this: Self-righteous idiots will still send in money, but not nearly as much. When blacks run a place, it’s a combination of incompetence and not-caring that brings “quality” and output way down.

    I think the current personnel of the $LPC are likely too stupid to even be able to read through and understand most posts here, much less your 5,000 word ones. Sure, some white IT guy can write a script that goes through looking for certain words and phrases, but it’ll sure get confused by the “work” out of the Godfree Roberts-type Commies and such. Maybe they will get really specific on Mr. Sailer and Mr. Kersey. When they come for the names, please forget that you know Steve Sailer. Thanks!

    If you really want to test your hypothesis, get someone to send some of your choice writings to certain Senators and complain about your site. I dare you.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Ron Unz
  85. @Bardon Kaldian

    Actually- this is a great stuff. You live your life as a full-blown sinner & then, close to death, you repent & convert.

    There are car wrecks and robberies-gone-wrong too, you know.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  86. @Buzz Mohawk

    Afraid me on a bike would undermine the meme, Buzz. Sorry.

  87. Charon says:
    @J.Ross

    What a time to be alive.

  88. Rosie says:
    @Thomas

    Name five dissident right women of any prominence (say, over 500,000 Google references).

    Given dissident right hostility to women, that is a ridiculous demand.

    In any event, I’ll take your silence as confirmation that you were indeed talking about all women when you used the term “thot.”

    (Anon907, I believe you owe me an apology.)

    • Replies: @Thomas
  89. Rosie says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Only in the fevered mind of a delusional female was that sexual harassment.

    And of course Rosie supports the full prosecution and imprisonment of anyone making fun of womyn kind. Because dang that free speech, women’s feewings are hurt!

    Go. Bake.A. Cake.

    That was precisely sexual harassment, or then again it might be better classified as creating a “hostile work environment.” The very sound reasoning behind this theory being that anti-discrimination laws don’t mean anything if hostile men, such as yourself, are allowed to jeer, taunt, and humiliate women so they leave the workplace of their own accord.

    (And you don’t go to prison for civil violations, you idiot.)

  90. Rosie says:
    @djccj

    It’s hilarious that the best any man can hope for now is to be allowed his “man cave”. How incredibly embarrassing is that??

    By all means, men should have the right to uglify the whole house with their unsightly megatelevisions, dusty rat’s nests of cords, hideous chairs, and of course, a dead animal’s head to pull the whole thing together.

    And why not display your singing fish collection in the foyer or above the sofa?

  91. @Thomas

    Just to play the game, how about Pauline Hanson, Marine le Pen, Ann Coulter, Candace Owens and Frauke Petry?

  92. Rosie says:
    @byrresheim

    Spurned men can get of course quite emotional and lose clarity in their wording … hence perhaps your misunderstanding.

    Are you this charitable in your assessment of radical feminists who’ve sworn off men after being pumped and dumped?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  93. Rosie says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    This is why there are no important female philosophers.

    Hmmm. I rather suspect there are no important female philosophers because they’re all married to important male philosophers (or other sorts of intellectuals).

    Arguments of this sort bolster feminist arguments that promising women who choose family over career are contributing to a culture of contempt for women.

  94. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Franz

    Thank you for this amazing comment. I’m sure their souls (if they exist) are greatly troubled by all the frowning going on in this vale of tears.

  95. @Jack D

    “Discredited race science” doesn’t actually mean discredited by actual scientists, just like “having a conversation about race” doesn’t actually mean having a conversation about race. WE, the SPLC, as your moral superiors, get to decide what is and is not discredited and a “conversation” means listening to us lecture to you. Capiche?

    The plain fact is “discredited race science” is mathematically required if you believe in natural selection. Separated breeding groups must vary genetically, especially in genes for traits that most affect survival and reproduction. That’s what “natural selection” is. And what is human’s great survival skill/advantage?–our mental processing, intelligence, communication and cooperation with others.

    The “not enough time” argument is openly nonsense. Just observationally as there are obvious phenotypic differences, so clearly there has been “time”. (Doing the math just proves the point.)

    What the various racial differences will be–their character and magnitude–that is an empirical question. But race differences themselves on survival related traits are absolutely locked in.

    So any of this “no differences”, “we’re all the same” stuff is openly anti-scientific–political posturing.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  96. @Rosie

    They’ve got a very good bass section, mind. But no top tenors, that’s for sure.

    • LOL: Rosie
  97. @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    if someone looked over my shoulder they’d think I’m reading a New Yorker

    Add that to the list of reasons this site is perfect as is.

  98. Thomas says:
    @Rosie

    Given dissident right hostility to women, that is a ridiculous demand.

    And I’ll take that as an admission that among women on the “right,” McHugh-style self-interest, attention-seeking, grifting and bad faith will usually predominate over forthright involvement in a cause out of personal belief in its correctness. “What about meeee???” You give the game away right there.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
  99. indocon says:

    Steve, every one of these mentions probably brings some curious leftists to this site, and I bet a good chunk of them end up staying. I can attest to a couple of my ex SWPL colleagues who are now regular visitors to your site.

    In the Sohrab Amari tweet, the responses are 9:1 against him…..there is hope after all.

  100. Hail says: • Website

    leaving aside the SPLC’s recent secretive purges of Morris Dees, Richard Cohen, Mark Potok, Heidi Beirich, and just about anybody else you ever heard of at the SPLC. The details behind the purges remain un-announced.

    (Of tangential interest)

    A character study:

    Heidi Beirich’s origin story: Family, early life, clues to political origins

    Including Beirich’s own account of her left-wing radicalization in 1980s SoCal.

    I propose two other hypotheses on why Beirich sank into the Ethnomasochist Left — (1) a psychological mechanism, a kind of political Stockholm Syndrome as she saw Southern California being ‘lost’ before her eyes; (2) she may have inherited certain views or proclivities from her German-born mother (a GI bride, marr. 1961), who was of age to have been exposed to the very worst of denazification psychological conditioning.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  101. Rosie says:
    @Thomas

    And I’ll take that as an admission that among women on the “right,” McHugh-style self-interest, attention-seeking, grifting and bad faith will usually predominate over forthright involvement in a cause out of personal belief in its correctness. “What about meeee???” You give the game away right there.

    Totally unreasonable on your part. I have said repeatedly I will happily go away if dissident right misogynists like you would do one thing: STFU about women. It is your presence here that necessitates my presence here.

    (I note you still have not denied calling all women “thots” in your above post.)

  102. @Rosie

    So that’s why Jay Leno had to move his super duper car/engine stash out from the wife’s gaze!

    And why guys have a “ham radio shack” and “the gun room.”

  103. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    The Left/MSM idea of “discredited” is that we can point to some edge cases that show that there’s no bright line between the races, so therefore your entire theory fails. But that’s not how science works at all. The fact that mules exist doesn’t mean that a horse and a donkey are the same species. The fact that orange exists doesn’t mean that red and yellow are the same color. But the Left pulls out this kind of “gotcha” stuff with a triumphant look on their faces when all it proves is that they are idiots and are too lacking in self-awareness to even understand that they are idiots.

  104. Jack D says:
    @Hail

    Aha, when Jews are Leftists it’s because they’re born that way, but when a good Aryan girl becomes a Leftist, then it’s the result of her mother having been subjected to brainwashing. Got it.

    • Agree: Dissident
  105. Pericles says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Note that the term used by very valuable and unique commenter was ‘dissident right’, not ‘alt-right’. So the wiggers here are more properly social leftwinger John Derbyshire, the fatherless Z-Man of the mean streets of Baltimore and so on.

    The ‘alt-right’ is more a White Sharia thing when it comes to these social issues.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  106. Jack D says:
    @Ron Unz

    Perhaps you are not being outrageous enough. Merely publishing articles accusing Jews of killing Christian children in order to bake their Passover Matzohs is not enough in our jaded age. You really need to kick it up a notch. What if you mentioned that they were using GMO wheat (not even whole wheat but bleached white flour) and that the baking method was not carbon neutral – something like that? Maybe THEN you could attract some attention?

    • Replies: @Alden
  107. Alden says:
    @anon

    As I recall, Jezebel’s only sin was being a shiksa who was forced to marry a Jew and live in the Jewish town.

    The Jews hated her as they hate all the goyim including you, anon 907. Jezebel was one of us, the loathsome unclean infidel, 2 legged animal vastly inferior to the Jews.

    Strange that fools write about the Jewish bible so much in this anti Jewish website. Or are you a Jew anon 907? If not why don’t you read the Christian Bible. Lots of bible thunders around her, mostly devoted to the pornographers violence hatred and genocide of the Jewish bible.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  108. Ron Unz says:
    @Lot

    “ my own regular email distribution list includes at least a hundred or so reasonably prominent mainstream journalists”

    Creeping dementia isn’t a pretty sight, so they hit “block sender” and you go to spam.

    Well, perhaps. But then again, perhaps not.

    For example, just a couple of months ago a very eminent mainstream academic happened to mention that he reads all my articles “religiously.”

    And after publishing one of my most extremely “controversial” articles, I received a very friendly note by the sort of mainstream historian whose books are favorably reviewed in the NYT, asking for my mailing address so that he could send me a copy of his latest work.

    The difference being that these are serious scholars while you’re just some ignorant and agitated rightwing Jewish-activist type, who endlessly rants and raves on my website.

    A possible analogy is that (I strongly suspect) that the overwhelming majority of serious scientists know perfectly well that there are only two genders, but are quite cautious about saying so in public lest they be vilified and purged, and quite happy and relieved that some people somewhere are speaking those important truths.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Dissident
  109. Alden says:
    @Thomas

    Ok, Thomas the repressed gay woman less childless sad old bachelor who’s been sexually frustrated all his life because he’s so repulsive.

    Don’t blame women for what’s happened to Whites in the last 63 years.

    1956 Brown vs Topeka public school desegregation or destruction accomplished by an all White male Supreme Court. Millions of White children condemned to 13 horrible years in a gulag of screeching black thugs and bullies. Trillions of White taxpayers money spent. White male judges ordered it.

    Dozens of school desegregation destruction/bussing decisions and orders followed ; again by White male judges.

    1964 civil rights act all White male president, senate, and all but about 5 out of 435 congress critters created and voted for it

    1965 unlimited non White immigration act all White male president Vice President senate and all but about 5 of 435 congress critters created it and voted for it

    1967 Philadelphia Plan that construction and other businesses bidding for federal contracts must hire unqualified incompetent useless blacks instead of licensed experienced union workers. This plan essentially destroyed the entire concept of testing, licensing , qualifications and completion of training programs Once more, an all White male president, Vice President senate and all but about 5 of 435 White male congress critters voted against Whites.

    1968 the worst thing that ever happened to White Americans; the affirmative action civil rights act. It was made into law by a White male president, Vice President senate and all but about 5 of 435 congress critters

    1970 White male President Nixon creates the entitled to affirmative action Hispanic race by executive action

    1972 White male President Nixon acting on orders from his owner White male David Rockefeller opens relations to China. This results in increased Chinese immigration to America, increased Chinese admissions to US colleges and within 10 years the movement of most of American industry including food processing to China. White male industrialists and businesses of course just absolutely totally thrilled about this.

    1973 Griggs vs Duke Power the all White male Supreme Court declares that employers must hire the dumbest least qualified black over the best qualified White.

    1975 O’Connor vs Donaldson 422 US 463 all 9 White male judges of the Supreme Court ordered every mental hospital in the country closed. The helpless mentally disabled were just p ut on buses to the nearest city. And thus began the homeless problem. Of course endless non White immigration occupying American housing has exacerbated the problem.

    1979 Kaiser vs Weber an all White male Supreme Court decreed that requiring a steel mill foreman to have a high school diploma, be an experienced steel milk worker experienced in all aspects of steel making and able to read, write and do simple 3rd grade math was discriminatory.

    Weber was the loser. He had a high school diploma could read write and do simple math, and had rotated around acquiring experience in all aspects of steel making. The requirements changed so that the only requirement was to be a black high school dropout incapable of making out a vacation schedule for his department or reading and writing simple memos

    1981 to 1988 White male President Ronald Regean and White male industrialists and business men accelerated moving American industry and jobs to China, Bangladesh and other non White countries

    1986 White male Ronald Regean gave amnesty to millions of illegal alien adults.

    1987 White male Ronald Regean extended amnesty to the children of illegal aliens

    That’s what White men in the presidency judiciary congress business and industry did to American Whites. If you can’t admit who destroyed Whites and blame it on fat tattooed women in short skirts go right ahead. Be dumb. Deny the facts.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Thomas
  110. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz

    Congratulations, you’re the Hebrew King of the Hebrew-Haters!

    You failed at all your other more lofty ambitions, but realism about our abilities and limitations is the key to happiness.

    • LOL: Jack D
    • Troll: Buzz Mohawk
  111. @Lot

    Israel isn’t “foreign,” it is a semi-autonomous American protectorate.

    That’s about as accurate a description as any other, but it has one flaw:

    Normally the suzerain in that situation is the larger, ostensibly-more-powerful state. In this case, the opposite seems to be true.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Lot
    , @A123
  112. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Jews have occasionally sacrificed people. Going by Jewish History it’s 5K years old and most societies have practiced human sacrifice at some point.

    There’s also the fact that Judaism is an extremely disorganized religion with a gazillion sects splitting into new sects splitting into new sects all the time. Even many if not a majority of atheists also consider themselves Jewish and are bar mitzvahed, have a Passover dinner and stay home on rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.

    It’s extremely well documented and the investigations were through and unbiased. Check out St Hugo. An unbiased, not Jewish or wiki website.

    Who cares if a few Jews here and there sacrificed humans in a weirdo unsanctioned cult ceremony over the centuries?

    Denying it and claiming that every Jew since Abraham was a pure angel of righteous virtue is ridiculous. Read your own bible about the Jewish angel who massacred every Egyptian baby and young boys . Or the massacre of 80K Persians.

    A religion that can commit and rejoice in the Egyptian and Persian genocides would obviously continue clandestine human sacrifice even if they lived in a Christian or Muslim world where it was considered murder. All cultures have done it including Jews even when they lived in countries where it was the crime of murder.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Jack D
  113. Jack D says:
    @Franz

    I was going to write to say the same thing. Deathbed conversions by non-religious Jews are not unusual. There are claims made that von Neumann had one, although all his friends insisted that he had been deeply irreligious his entire life. First of all, Judaism (and many deathbed converts are Jewish only by birth) has a rather weak concept of the afterlife. Jewish theology is mainly considered with what we do here on this earth (and if you are dying there is not much more that you are going to accomplish on that end). Christianity OTOH seems to offer the promise of a rich afterlife (and punishment for those who die in a state of sin) – maybe it’s all BS, but why take a chance? Might as well hedge your bets.

    2nd, there is not much proselytizing in Judaism. Chabad does have programs to visit the Jewish sick, which is considered to be a mitzvah (a good deed), but they don’t really throw a lot of religion at you. Christianity, OTOH, is always eager to sign up converts, right up until their dying breath. Another soul saved! It seems to me that there is a particular type of religious vulture that goes after the vulnerable. My wife lost her father to cancer when she was a teenager and some neighbors who were Jehovah’s Witnesses made an effort to befriend her. At first she thought that they were just being nice and taking her on family outings, etc. in order to distract her from her grief. But eventually they tried to make the pitch to her – become a Jehovah’s Witness and someday you’ll see your beloved father again, etc. Needless to say this pitch did not work and it left a very bad taste in her mouth.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Lot
  114. @dkdkdj

    Alt-Right Wahmen Hater: Women are overly emotional. They cannot debate serious issues in a calm, rational, logical, clearheaded manner.

    Rosie: You filthy bigot! You’re so wrong because … you’re wrong! You’re very wrong! You’re a liar! You’re a vicious liar! You … I can’t even … I hate you! I hate you! I hate you! Die, you vile scum!

    Alt-Right Wahmen Hater: Thank you for proving my point.

    Rosie: I DID NOT PROVE YOUR POINT, YOU MISERABLE INCEL!

  115. Alden says:
    @djccj

    Another unfortunate divorce I assume? And some absolutely unreasonable judge ordered you to obey the law and support your children. Boo hoo boo hoo.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  116. Neoconned says:

    Makes you wonder if Miller is 1 of us commenters…..

  117. Rosie says:
    @Alden

    Another unfortunate divorce I assume? And some absolutely unreasonable judge ordered you to obey the law and support your children. Boo hoo boo hoo.

    My buddy got divorced raped even tho he dindu nuffin.

  118. So is this Michael Hayden any relation to Gen. NSA Michael Hayden?

  119. nebulafox says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Slimy, disgusting worms, the lot of them. They have the nerve to brand themselves as American patriots and then clap for a foreign leader there to *subvert our foreign policy decisions*, as if Stalin is entering the Politburo. At least the leftists are honest about what they are, or used to be before Trump.

    I cannot think of a picture that better encapsulates why the current GOP is worthless and should be left to burn on the ashbin of history. What’s the point of having a conservative party that is more willing to fight for the interests of another state over your own?

  120. Dissident says:
    @Ron Unz

    you’re just some agitated rightwing Jewish-activist type, who endlessly rants and raves on my website.

    Agitated? Endlessly rants and raves?

    This characterization of Lot seems way off the mark, whatever else one may think of him (and I certainly take exception to the seemingly reflexive pro-Zionist/anti-Muslim/anti-Arab position that he seems to predictably take when the opportunity to do so presents itself).

    Far from coming across as agitated, I would rank Lot’s posts among the calmest and least emotional of the many comments I’ve read at this site. Likewise with regard to the metric of how concise and focused the writing is.

    One can certainly find individuals here at Unz Review– both mere “commenters” as well as featured writers– whose posts it would not be unreasonable to characterize both as “agitated” as well as comprising “endless rants rants and raves”. But how many such individuals could reasonably be characterized as “rightwing Jewish-activist type[s]”? (Incidentally, that term– particularly the ‘righwing’ descriptor– would seem of questionable accuracy when applied to those advancing a Neocon-type view.) Some, perhaps. But even if many, the number would, by all indications, still be greatly surpassed by the number of clearly agitated and endlessly ranting and raving individuals who are of a very different type. Here, I speak of individuals who could not, by any stretch of the imagination, be considered “Jewish-activist type[s]” (“rightwing” or otherwise). Individuals that Mr. Ron Unz himself– both through his choice of any number of the authors whom he features as well as in any number of his own articles and comments– indulges, encourages, promotes, and, in at least some cases, explicitly endorses the views of.
    ~ ~ ~

    In an earlier comment, Ron Unz wrote,

    Offhand, this might seem extremely odd. My own guess is that much of the material we publish is 10x as “controversial” as anything VDare has ever run, and many of my own personal articles, including those that have spent over a year on the Home page, might be up in the 30x or 40x potency range.

    Could not essentially the same questions be asked concerning Patreon and Google AdSense and their behavior vis-a-vis The Unz Review? According to Mr. Unz, Google AdSense actually solicited him, resulting in the ads that recently briefly appeared at this site before our estimable host thought better of the idea. Haven’t numerous YouTube channels, at least, been de-monetized and even ousted entirely for content that was considerably less transgressive of current-year pieties than much of that which abounds at this site? What might account for this seemingly glaring contradiction? Has no one else wondered?

    • Agree: A123
  121. Lot says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Normally the suzerain in that situation is the larger, ostensibly-more-powerful state. In this case, the opposite seems to be true.”

    I will give you “seems to be true.” But the fact that Americans are, as a whole, avid Zionists mean that our Zionist policies are the result of Israeli influence, or the result of our own local Zionism?

    Obviously it is a mix of both, but I am not so sure how we can disentangle the two causes.

    What do you think of Brazil’s new “far right” evangelical protestant President who loves Israel. Is it really Israeli influence in Brazil that’s the cause?

    Spain’s anti migration “far right” anti-migration party is also extremely pro-Israel. The Vox party recently doubled their share of Congressmen and are now the 3rd largest party.

    Their voters are basically the descendants of Francoists, not a group you’d expect Israel to influence. Same for Ulster conservatives.

  122. anarchyst says:
    @Alden

    You are correct about whites being “their own worst enemy”.

    However, most of the decisions that were upheld by the courts were due to jewish judges…

    Regards,

  123. anarchyst says:
    @Franz

    I agree.

    “Deathbed conversions and confessions” make a mockery of true “faith” and “beliefs”.

    To those who believe that how one lives one’s life is not important, here is a possible scenario…a criminal has hurt thousands (or even millions) of people throughout his lifetime, gotten rich and benefited from his criminal activity (could be white collar) and on his deathbed proclaims his guilt, professes a belief in Jesus Christ and his sins are automatically “forgiven”. He now has a straight ticket to “heaven”…that is what Protestants believe…”good works” are of no use…

    Another scenario…a person (Catholic) has lived a decent life, always treating his fellow man with respect, has done “good works” without expecting recognition or “payback”, doing them because “it’s the right thing to do”…believes in Jesus Christ but does not profess his sins on his deathbed, figuring that he has striven to live a decent life. Is he any less worthy of the Creator’s mercy?

    How many “deathbed conversions” are valid?? We will never know…

    I don’t “buy” the notion that good works will not help in a person’s “salvation”. If anything, it can’t hurt…

    Yes, there have been many abuses in the Catholic Church, “indulgences” for one, that supposedly offered a “fast track” to heaven “for a price”…that, in itself was an abuse of Catholic doctrine…

    It is my belief that how a person lives his life is of great importance…living a life in which a person’s injustice to others WILL affect a person’s status in the next life…

    Of course, there are those who “wear their religion on their sleeves” who will not accept the fact that religions are merely a “conduit” in which to help understand spiritual concepts that cannot be proven or disproven by scientific means..

    I also refuse to believe that those of non-Christian religions are destined to “hell” or some other place for “unbelievers” in the Christian faiths.

  124. Rosie says:
    @Whiskey

    The West is led by vapid pretty boys (White women voters), haggard old crones (White women voters), and all sorts of SJW women (White women voters).

    Roflol!

    Meanwhile, here in the real world…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/07/17/after-years-glacial-change-women-now-hold-more-than-corporate-board-seats/

  125. J.Ross says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Self-righteous idiots will still send in money, but not nearly as much.

    This seems likely and explains why they aren’t publicizing the new people. The SPLC and ADL derived authenticity (and a direct connection to the ultimate ideological reason for being, at least for Silent, GI and boomers) from being you-know-whos. Could a desi, a blasian with a French spelling of Chinese name, or for that matter a thoroughly gentile WASP from the Deep South* expect the same authenticity and connection?
    *Yeah, yeah, but see how he handled it.

  126. A123 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Normally the suzerain in that situation is the larger, ostensibly-more-powerful state. In this case, the opposite seems to be true.

    Your picture undercuts your argument.

    The Leader of Israel is presenting himself to 500+ mere members of the U.S. Congress. The junior party is lobbying the many Reps and Senators of the senior party. At most Netanyahu is a privileged junior party getting to make his case directly.

    PEACE 😇

  127. Dan Hayes says:
    @Jack D

    Jack D:

    von Neumann was an interesting case of death-bed conversion. When young he had to undergo superficial conversion to be married in the Catholic Church. He consulted Dominican and Jesuit priests when dying and stated that a God supplied answers.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  128. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Offhand, this might seem extremely odd. My own guess is that much of the material we publish is 10x as “controversial” as anything VDare has ever run, and many of my own personal articles, including those that have spent over a year on the Home page, might be up in the 30x or 40x potency range. Moreover, I think our traffic these days is something like 10x that of VDare, seemingly making us an extremely juicy target.

    While your personal articles are controversial, the site as a whole is largely compatible with the Progressive commercial left and their privileged Fake Stream Media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, & NYT.

    You probably don’t believe me — Let us test the theory with one of your authors, Mr. Godfree Roberts [GR].

    (1) Christian values are bad / Multiculturalism is good — GR, CNN, MSNBC, NYT all agree
    (2) Whites are bad / Han Chinese are good — GR, CNN, MSNBC, NYT all agree
    (3) Shipping U.S. Jobs to China is good — GR, CNN, MSNBC, NYT all agree
    (4) Trump is evil — GR, CNN, MSNBC, NYT all agree

    If you don’t like this choice of author, run the test with another. Obviously, you will have to tweak the questions. Only #4 is mandatory.
    _____

    As long as the President is a Republican — Especially, Trump as an anti-establishment Republican — Many of the extreme anti-GOP/anti-Trump authors here will score as above average defenders of the causes pushed by the Fake Stream Media.

    No doubt the underlying logic of why the position is held will be different. However, the two dimensional, weaponized media complex does not care about understanding, only superficial conformity. And in their eyes, virulent anti-Trumpism immediately earns one credit as a paragon of virtue & conformity.

    PEACE 😇

  129. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    Jews should convert to Christianity, especially secular ones. I admire the Anglican effort going back 150 years to provide converts with a form of Christianity that preserves those cultural aspects of Judaism that are compatible with Christianity.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anonymous
  130. nebulafox says:
    @Dan Hayes

    I’m not an expert, so anybody here who wants to correct me is free to do so. But I think the easiest explanation to von Neumann’s behavior was that he had a vague belief in a higher power-so it wasn’t necessarily some craven, hypocritical decision-for most of his life, but didn’t have an interest in pursuing that vein of thought further until late in the game. He was probably happy to be an irreligious, vague deist/agnostic hybrid. When facing death, though, he wanted to have a framework to view it in. Von Neumann was just not the kind of man who could be content with not knowing the answer to something and putting it into a rational framework when a question was slamming into his face, so…

    Like many bourgeois Middle European Jews, he probably wasn’t terribly interested in pursuing his native religion beyond cultural identification: it was associated with caftan wearing backwards Ostjuden. Catholicism happened to be on hand, and was probably more relatable both by dint of familiarity and intellectualizing than American Protestantism. Growing up where he did, conversion to Christianity was omnipresent. He wasn’t some shtetl Jew growing up in the Pale or a working-class immigrant in the Bronx: in polite Central European society, it an was an entirely socially acceptable, social expedient to integration.

    He was far from the only prominent Jewish scientist to go down this route: Max Born would nominally convert to Lutheranism. But there seemed to be an intellectual deathbed compulsion from a brain as powerful as von Neumann’s-the kind of brain you really only see once every couple of generations-to try and make everything fit. It wasn’t about the social aspect for him: well, of course it wasn’t, he was on his deathbed, but it was also because von Neumann’s brain was beyond the comprehension of most people. It fed on calculating and answering questions and demanded more fuel than ever in its supernova moment.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Jack D
  131. nebulafox says:
    @Alden

    Judaism as we know it is, for all intents and purposes, a different religion than it was before the Romans attempted to crush it for good after one revolt too many. Prior to that, it was an intensely martial and occasionally extremely nasty faith, as you’d expect out of any Iron Age cult from the Near East. (Just look at the Iliad for an idea of what “morality” was for pre-classical tribal societies. This was a blue-and-orange morality sort of world we’re talking about.) And even the widespread Hellenization of the diaspora Jews with the widespread interest in the positive aspects of the faith among Gentiles seen around the time of Christ’s birth couldn’t fully obscure the fact that it was an intensely tribal one, too.

    The militant nature of old-school Judaism-displayed so explicitly in the Old Testament, i.e, the Amalekites-did not survive the near-death experience at the hands of the Romans. The Judaism that would be forged in the aftermath is more of a sister religion to Christianity than a parent: and would be one more focused on learning than sword-handling.

  132. Thomas says:
    @Alden

    @Alden, both you and @Rosie engage in the childish pattern that identity politics SJWs engage in, of conflating any criticism of any member your favorite victim group with blind hatred of the whole group. Flush your brain of that pollution.

    I fully concede white men are responsible for most of the disaster that’s befallen the country over the past decades, and nothing I’ve said here contradicts that. It is also true though, the white men have taken the lead in dissident politics opposing those calamitous trends, which is something I doubt anyone here could deny.

    In both cases, women mostly follow along and do whatever seems to get them the most social approval in context. If they can be the belle of the ball in a dissident movement (see, e.g., Lauren Southern, etc.), they’ll do that. Otherwise, most are just going to follow whatever the mainstream tells them. Katie McHugh’s path demonstrates both sides of this reality.

    That’s no indictment of the entire sex. Most people follow along with whatever is socially-approved, as anyone with heterodox views should know. It’s probably true though that genuine commitment to such heterodox views, rare as it is in general, is even rarer in women, making it just one of many “right tail of the bell curve” traits that skews more male than female. Understanding that reality should make anyone cautious about how much they trust any woman’s commitment to taking and standing by right but unpopular stands.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  133. Jack D says:
    @Alden

    in a Christian or Muslim world where it was considered murder.

    Because Christians and Muslims , unlike Jews, knew what was considered murder.

    One of the greatest taboos in Judaism is the consumption of, or contact with, blood. Jews go to great lengths not to consume the blood of animals – not only do Jews not eat things like blood sausage but even meat must be soaked salted to draw all the blood out of it before it is eaten. And menstruating woman are considered unclean. So the LAST thing any Jewish cult, even the most crazy one, would be interested in would be the consumption of human blood. The blood libel was obviously invented by someone with little or no knowledge of Judaism.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @utu
  134. @Alden

    As I recall, Jezebel’s only sin was being a shiksa who was forced to marry a Jew and live in the Jewish town.

    Your recollection is not very good though. Primo, Jezebel and Ahab’s marriage was a marriage of state.King of Israel to Phoenician princess. I have no idea if it was forced, nor do you. Secundo, there is that small matter of her exterminating the prophets of God (Kings1 chapter 18 verse 4). Terzo there is that unfortunate incident of her suborning perjury in order to have Naboth the Jizraelite killed and his vineyard expropriated(Kings1 chapter 21 verses 7-15 ), so hardly the innocent shiksa set upon by Jud Suss.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  135. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    Sorry, I’m not buying. When it came to great mathematical problems, Jansci was every bit the genius you say he was. But when it came to the great mysteries of life and death, he had no special insight or advantage. It’s like politics, romance, human relations, etc. – many great mathematicians and scientists are complete idiots when it comes to such matters.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  136. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Jews should convert to Christianity, especially secular ones

    Because?

    There may have been a time when that made sense but that time has passed. Not even most (nominal) Anglicans believe in Christianity anymore, so why should Jews? Even the priests are not really Anglicans – half of them are gay which violates the basic tenets of the actual religion. Bin Laden said that people are drawn to the strong horse. Anglicanism seems more like a dying horse.

    • Replies: @Lot
  137. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    But don’t you see that’s the point? I wasn’t saying Von Neumann was *right*.

  138. Jack D says:
    @kaganovitch

    This assumes that any of this actually happened. Kings I was written maybe 200 years after the events in question and probably bears about as much resemblance to the historical truth as Liz Warrxn’s story that redlining caused global warming and for the same reason. The point was not to convey the actual facts – it was to illustrate that Baal worshipers (in Warrxn’s case, white people) are bad and in the end they will be forced to pay for their sins and will meet a bad end.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  139. @Jack D

    As I’m sure you know, I would disagree as to the historicity of the Jezebel narrative, but the point is irrelevant to my comment. Alden was making a contention about the Jezebel in the Bible. Unless he’s much older than I think, he has no first hand knowledge of the woman in question. When he claims that her “only sin was being a shiksa who was forced to marry a Jew and live in the Jewish town.” he is saying that a fair reading of the Bible is that she is an innocent. The biblical narrative is the only source of information here. I’m merely pointing out that is not what the Bible says. His source doesn’t say what he “recalls”. The historicity or otherwise of the Bible is not at bar here.

  140. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    Go to church with a Christian friend or relative, and with an open heart, and I hope you will be filled with the Holy Spirit.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Reality Cheque
  141. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Moishe and Solly are passing a Catholic Church and see a sign that reads “Convert to Catholicism, $50 Cash.”
    Moishe turns to his friend Solly and says, “Hey, I’m going to try it.” He enters the church and returns 20 minutes later.
    “So, did you convert? What was it like?” Solly eagerly asks.
    “It was nothing”, says Moishe, “I walked in, a priest sprinkled holy water on me, and said ‘you’re a Catholic.’”
    Says Solly, ” So, so – did you get the $50?”
    Replies Moishe, ” Money – is that all you people think about?”

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  142. Ron Unz says:
    @Jack D

    One of the greatest taboos in Judaism is the consumption of, or contact with, blood. Jews go to great lengths not to consume the blood of animals…The blood libel was obviously invented by someone with little or no knowledge of Judaism.

    Well, it’s been a couple of years since I read Prof. Ariel Toaff’s (exceedingly dull) 500 page book, but I don’t recall that he claimed European Jews ever actually *consumed* Christian blood. It’s just that Jews used the blood of sacrificed Christian children as an extremely potent ingredient in some of their various magical rituals. Personally, I think the whole notion of their baking blood into Passover Matzah was just probably invented by Jewish activists to discredit all the stories.

    Keep in mind that prior to the early 20th century, the bulk of European Jews had never benefited from the Enlightenment and therefore were often extremely primitive in their religious practices. As Prof. Israel Shahak recounts, a considerable fraction of them followed something really not all that different from Haitian Voodoo. So given that context, it’s hardly surprising that some of them used the blood obtained from human sacrifice in their rituals.

    • LOL: Dissident
    • Replies: @Jack D
  143. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think the current personnel of the $LPC are likely too stupid to even be able to read through and understand most posts here, much less your 5,000 word ones.

    Well look. Over a year ago I finally managed to taunt the ADL people into publishing an anonymous and rather milquetoast post noting my ideological “transgressions.” Except for some totally obscure writer living in Poland, it received virtually zero media coverage, presumably on direct ADL orders. But it’s extremely difficult to believe that the ADL people don’t talk to the SPLC people.

    When you Google “Steve Sailer” UNZ.com naturally comes up at the top, so wouldn’t the SPLC writer have looked at this website and noticed certain “controversial things”? I think it’s overwhelmingly likely that the ADL has issued an extremely explicit “Lord Voldemort” order, and circulated it quite widely in political/media circles.

    If you really want to test your hypothesis, get someone to send some of your choice writings to certain Senators and complain about your site. I dare you.

    Sounds like a great idea—go ahead and give it a try! Maybe you’ll be lucky enough to hit some junior staffer who’s too lazy and stupid to call the ADL for “guidance” on the issue.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  144. Jack D says:
    @Ron Unz

    As Prof. Israel Shahak recounts, a considerable fraction of them followed something really not all that different from Haitian Voodoo.

    Ron, you have, what, 100 IQ points on the average Haitian? Do you really think that your ancestors and their religion is anything like Haitian voodoo? Do Haitians have anything that resembles the Talmud? Do they sit around and debate subtle ethical questions all day? Human sacrifice has been utterly antithetical to Judaism since day 1. The ability to know right from wrong did not begin with the Enlightenment.

    I’m sorry that something in your upbringing turned you against your own people, but what you are saying is utterly ridiculous – beyond ridiculous. If human sacrifice formed some part of Jewish doctrine, even the doctrine of some breakaway or fringe sect, then surely some record of it would exist, but there is none, just slander and rumors invented by the enemies of the Jews. Relying on their writings is like relying on Adam Schiff to give you an honest view of Donald Trump.

    • Agree: Dissident, Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ron Unz
  145. Dissident says:
    @Pericles

    Note that the term used by very valuable and unique commenter was ‘dissident right’, not ‘alt-right’. So the wiggers here are more properly social leftwinger John Derbyshire,

    Derbyshire a “social leftwinger”? Sure, he’s fine with abortion (alas), and he supports single-payer medical care. But how many other areas are there in which Derb holds views that could reasonably be considered leftwing? Can you name any?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  146. Anonymous[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Well, there’s no question but that Jews are very much smarter than Haitians. But the smartest and the dumbest people are still people. People do stuff. Smart people do it faster, better, in more detail.

    Jews, whites, orientals, subcons, negroes, aborigines….mostly they do more or less the same stuff in basic principle, but vary vastly in their capacities to do different things.

    One race builds Apollo spacecraft and SR-71s. Another never actually does, but they do build the Toyota Camry, which runs a decade without major repairs. Another didn’t invent the wheel in twenty millennia. Still, they can claim a slight advantage over the mountain gorilla. No disrespect to the mountain gorilla, they at least don’t commit crimes and consume welfare money, but their fashion sense is even worse.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  147. Pericles says:
    @Dissident

    It was all derived from the comments before me. Which, yeah, I did find a bit confused and silly.

  148. @Ron Unz

    Ron, I was referring more to the $PLC than the ADL when describing how I think things will work over there since taken over by the race-hustler crowd (per my readings of Mr. Sailer). I think the ADL is by far a more powerful organization. I remember reading your taunts to the ADL too, haha! I enjoyed that.

    Is your “Lord Voltemort” idea (I had to read up on it – not a Harry Potter fan) that the ADL does not want to put you on all the “hate-lists” because you will bring them down? I don’t know about that. Is it because of your being Jewish means you are the “Only Nixon could go to China” type guy to tell it all like it is? Maybe, and possibly, regarding the ADL, they’ve read articles by the Commie contingent on your site and feel like they would be “Tailgunner Joe McCarthys” and ashamed of themselves were they to shut down any Communists and Socialists from speaking their minds.

    No, personally, I’d rather your site become even bigger before cluing in any “woke” politicians who may really cause you trouble. I know you are just itching for a fight with those guys, and I’d like to be in that position too! Peak Stupidity would LUV, LUV, LUV to be a hate list, any hate list. Could you pull some strings for me, Ron?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  149. @moshe

    They (read: you) are cowards. Oh, you’ll vote and comment anonymously

    Shouldn’t that be “(read: we)”? You’re commenting anonymously too.

  150. Ron Unz says:
    @Jack D

    Do you really think that your ancestors and their religion is anything like Haitian voodoo? Do Haitians have anything that resembles the Talmud?..what you are saying is utterly ridiculous – beyond ridiculous. If human sacrifice formed some part of Jewish doctrine, even the doctrine of some breakaway or fringe sect, then surely some record of it would exist, but there is none, just slander and rumors invented by the enemies of the Jews.

    Look, I’m not religious myself and I’ve never paid any attention to religion. But that’s what academic scholars vastly more knowledgeable than myself have said, and unless you can find convincing evidence to the contrary I tend to believe them. Here are a couple of paragraphs from my response to that totally ignorant ADL posting from last year:

    I was equally unimpressed that they so hotly denounced me for substantially relying upon the writings of Israel Shahak, whom they characterized as viciously “anti-Semitic.” As I had repeatedly emphasized, my own total lack of Aramaic and Hebrew necessarily forces me to rely upon the research of others, and the late Prof. Shahak, an award-winning Israeli academic, certainly seems a fine source to use. After all, famed linguist Noam Chomsky had lauded Shahak’s works for their “outstanding scholarship,” and numerous of our other most prominent public intellectuals such as Christopher Hitchens, Edward Said, and Gore Vidal had been similarly lavish in their praise. Furthermore, one of Shahak’s co-authors was Norton Mezvinsky, a prominent American academic specializing in Middle Eastern history, himself hardly an obscure figure given that both his brother and sister-in-law served in Congress and his nephew later married Chelsea Clinton. And as far as I’m aware almost none of Shahak’s explicit claims about the Talmud or traditional Judaism have ever been directly challenged, while the online availability of his first book allows those so interested to conveniently read it and decide for themselves.

    The ADL similarly denounced me for taking seriously the theories of Ariel Toeff, another Israeli academic. But Prof. Toeff, son of the Chief Rabbi of Rome, certainly ranks as one of the world’s leading scholarly authorities on Medieval Jewry, and working together with his graduate students and other colleagues, he had devoted many years of effort to the research study in question, drawing upon extensive primary and secondary sources produced in eight different languages. I found his 500 page book quite persuasive, as did Israeli journalist Israel Shamir, and I have seen no credible rebuttals.

    Now the work of all these prominent academics and intellectuals may not necessarily be correct, and perhaps I am mistaken in accepting their factual claims. But I would need to see something far more weighty than a casual dismissal in a few paragraphs contained within an anonymous ADL column, whose author for all I know might have been some ignorant young intern.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

    Discussed here in greater detail:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

    Until you’ve bothered reading the books work of Profs. Shahak and Toeff, you’ve just making a fool of yourself. As far as I know, you’re just some random rightwing Jewish activist leaving anonymous comments on a website, while Prof. Toeff ranks as one of the world’s foremost scholarly authorities on Medieval Jewry, so offhand I think I’d probably take his opinion over yours…

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @utu
  151. Jack D says:
    @Ron Unz

    Don’t listen to me. Listen to Kenneth Stow, Professor of Jewish History at the University of Haifa:

    To disparage this book is not, as some have suggested, to challenge academic freedom. It is to decry bad historiographical method. The question is not whether historians have the right to assess the veracity of ritual murder charges, but whether their arguments must adhere to generally agreed rules of historical reasoning. Here, the rules were plainly ignored. Toaff, professor of medieval and Renaissance history at Israel’s Bar-Ilan University, chose to put his uncritical trust in the literal words of Christian chroniclers, court notaries, and tendentious modern polemicists.

    http://hnn.us/articles/35496.html

    As I said before, taking the word of anti-Semites, as Toaff did, is like depending on Adam Schiff to give you an unbiased account of Donald Trump’s actions. No serious future historian is going to take Schiff’s words as the truth unless they are similarly biased.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  152. Ron Unz says:
    @Jack D

    Don’t listen to me. Listen to Kenneth Stow, Professor of Jewish History at the University of Haifa:

    Very unpersuasive compared to the detailed analysis in Prof. Toaff’s book, which was based upon many years of academic research in conjunction with his various grad students and university colleagues.

    As he points out, the descriptions of obscure Jewish ritual made by the accused would have been totally unknown to their Christian interrogators and therefore couldn’t have been invented. It should also be noted that Jews of that era regarded vials of Christian blood as an extremely valuable product, which was traded for large sums of money.

    The accounts of Jews sacrificing Christian children and then using their blood in various magic rituals are quite numerous, sometimes backed by rather credible eyewitness testimony, and lasted into the early 20th century. It seems rather implausible that such similar reports would have been independently imagined by so many individuals in entirely different societies, geographical locations, and time-periods.

    As for that Stow fellow, well if he’d said anything different, he surely would have been purged from his periodical, just like Prof. Toaff received death-threats and was more-or-less purged from his university.

    And you should really read Prof. Shahak’s book or my “Oddities” discussion of it regarding all the voodoo-type activities still practiced today by ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel, with all sorts of magic charms, hexes, spells, curses, and incantations.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  153. @kaganovitch

    True, but Goodell was under pressure to show that he would punish white players too, and Tom was the perfect Great White Defendant.

  154. @Rosie

    Are you this charitable in your assessment of radical feminists who’ve sworn off men after being pumped and dumped?

    Most of the radical feminists who’ve been pumped and dumped have probably been pumped and dumped by other radical feminists. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    Most men are not that stupid or needy.

  155. Jack D says:
    @Ron Unz

    It seems rather implausible that such similar reports would have been independently imagined by so many individuals in entirely different societies, geographical locations, and time-periods.

    Would you say the same about witches flying around on broomsticks?

    all sorts of magic charms, hexes, spells, curses, and incantations.

    None of which involve the blood of Christian children.

    Westerners also used to have all sorts of stuff like this – lucky rabbit’s feet and St. Christopher medals, etc. not to mention the vast collection of Holy Relics of the Catholic Church, but none of them involved human sacrifice either. “Primitive” superstitions are one thing and murder is something else.

    • Agree: Dissident, Johann Ricke
  156. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    “I don’t recall ever meeting Stephen Miller or having any form of interaction with him such as by email or telephone.”

    Regrettably, neither does anyone else as of late.

    What do you mean?

  157. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    I also never knew Sam Francis had converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.

    Was Francis not always Catholic? Had he been Episcopalian beforehand?

    • Replies: @Franz
  158. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    I admire the Anglican effort going back 150 years to provide converts with a form of Christianity that preserves those cultural aspects of Judaism that are compatible with Christianity.

    Define “cultural”.

  159. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Is your “Lord Voltemort” idea (I had to read up on it – not a Harry Potter fan) that the ADL does not want to put you on all the “hate-lists” because you will bring them down?

    Well, my strong suspicion is that after internal debate, the ADL has widely distributed an edict that this webzine must never be mentioned under any circumstances, and it’s obviously difficult to attack or vilify something you’re not allowed to mention. That explains the very curious omission by the SPLC and various similar entities.

    The ADL people aren’t entirely stupid, and their strategy is probably the correct one, though it certainly raises certain vulnerabilities. Among other things, since this website isn’t attacked or vilified, people land here without any pre-conceived notions. They see a rather bland and old-fashioned design and a range of writers from different ideologies, some known to them and quite respectable, and everything looks rather “presentable.”

    Obviously, the strategic landscape would be quite different if the ADL and its allies decided to launch a widespread attack, but such an approach would have present enormous vulnerabilities of its own.

    Here’s a lengthy comment from a couple of years ago spelling out my impression of how politics works, which relates to the ADL/SPLC strategy:

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-left-has-already-won-the-2016-election/#comment-987039

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  160. utu says:
    @Jack D

    “One of the greatest taboos in Judaism is the consumption of, or contact with, blood.” – You must be on an autopilot repeating the usual Jewish argument but this argument contain a flaw. Ask the model who circumcised you whether he came in contact with your (I presume you are human) blood. Or YHWH smitten him for violating the alleged taboo of zero contact with blood?

    The ancient method of performing metzitzah b’peh (Hebrew: מְצִיצָה בְּפֶה‎), or oral suction[37][38]—has become controversial. The process has the mohel place his mouth directly on the circumcision wound to draw blood away from the cut. The majority of Jewish circumcision ceremonies do not use metzitzah b’peh,[39] but some Haredi Jews use it.[40][41][42] It has been documented that the practice poses a serious risk of spreading herpes to the infant.[43][44][45][46] Proponents maintain that there is no conclusive evidence that links herpes to Metzitza,[47] and that attempts to limit this practice infringe on religious freedom.[48][49][50]. -Wiki

    • Replies: @Dissident
  161. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Sabbatean Jews of Jacob Frank’s splinter group prior to accepting the official conversion to Catholicism demanded to conduct a public debate with the Orthodox rabbis of Poland whom they called the Talmudists. The debate between Frankists (anti-Talmudists) and Talmudists took place in Lvov in 1759 under the auspices of Polish bishop. The Frankists wanted to prove six theological theses and the Seventh Thesis that claimed that:

    The Talmud teaches that Christian blood is needed, and whoever believes in the Talmud must need it..

    At the end of the debate (that lasted over two weeks) Jacob Frank and about 3000 of his followers underwent baptisms in Lvov, Lublin and Warsaw.

    Pikulski ks. Gaudenty recorded and reported the dispute in 900 pages book: “Złość żydowska przeciwko Bogu y bliźniemu, prawdzie y sumieniu na obiaśnienie Talmudystow, na dowod ich zaślepienia y religii dalekiey od prawa boskiego przez Moyżesza danego rozdzielona na trzy części” (Jewish spite against God and neighbor and truth and conscience…). Several copies of the book survived and it was recently reprinted in Poland but it was discussed by 19 and 20 century Jewish as well as non Jewish historians.

    Anyway, was the Seventh Thesis proven? The proof is technical and well, Talmudic, based on multi layer textual meaning and whether there are diacritic indications in text that point to the hidden level of meaning. Whether the proof is valid or not is irrelevant as any Talmudic proof would be for us but what is important that there were hundreds of Jews who wanted to argue the case for blood consumption imperative in Talmud and they succeeded in bringing 30-40 traditional rabbis into the debate. Did they do it in a good faith or in spite as a revenge for the persecutions Sabbateans suffered form the traditional Jews in Poland prior to their conversion? It has to be emphasized that Catholic Church was not interested in having the debate. Actiually they wanted to avoid it just like any sensible person would prefer not participating in the scenes that squabbling Jews can make. So the Church did not push for the debate. The Church was saying: just let’s go with the baptism but Frankists made a condition: not until we debate the Talmudists.

  162. utu says:
    @Franz

    Francis’s Legacy – Dr. Jones’ Speech at the Samuel T. Francis Memorial
    E. MICHAEL JONES
    http://www.unz.com/ejones/franciss-legacy-dr-jones-speech-at-the-samuel-t-francis-memorial/

  163. @Ron Unz

    I read that comment of yours on the media and politics just now, as you linked to it from Mr. Fulford’s article too. That was good reading. Thanks for the replies.

    Remember:

    Peak Stupidity = hate-mongering. Spread the word.

    They say any publicity is good publicity (and I’m not running for office!)

  164. @J.Ross

    There’s probably an approval embedded in the first step of the application process.

    When was the last time you read the “term and conditions” for and web based app?

    I did it twice 20 years ago and it was obvious that they were entirely concerned with :

    1. Promising nothing.
    2. Claiming much.

  165. Dissident says:
    @utu

    The ancient method of performing metzitzah b’peh (Hebrew: מְצִיצָה בְּפֶה‎), or oral suction[37][38]—has become controversial. The process has the mohel place his mouth directly on the circumcision wound to draw blood away from the cut.

    Circumcision itself obviously inevitably requires contact with blood, yes. And the the particular procedure you cited obviously involves the ingestion of at least some blood by the mohel performing it.

    The facts remain, nonetheless:

    metzitzah b’peh is the one exception in which Judaism even permits, much less mandates, the consumption of blood. And said ritual is completely different from what is concocted in the blood libels. The infant is already bleeding, as an inevitable result of the circumcision, which is the commandment– one that Jews perform on their own children and not on the children of non-Jews.

    Human sacrifice in any form, as Jack D correctly noted, has always been completely anathema in Judaism.
    This was one of the things that set the ancient Hebrews apart from other peoples and religions at the time. Established in the foundational Biblical narrative of the binding of Issac (Akeidas Yitzhak) in book of Genesis: After preparing to slaughter his son Issac at G-d’s command, Abraham is then ordered to immediately cease and desist, for G-d only wished to test Abraham’s loyalty and devotion.

    To anyone truly familiar with Judaism, the suggestion that any form of human sacrifice, or any ritual that required the obtaining of human blood* can be found anywhere within the Judaic tradition would be wildly preposterous.

    (*Circumcision, as I noted above, is entirely different. Performing an action, no matter how bizarre or barbaric one may find it, upon the circumcision wound is in no way comparable to drawing or otherwise obtaining human blood, in order to perform a ritual with it/ in the belief that it possess magical powers.)

    It is concerning Judaism, in which I am a believer and practitioner of for many years, that I can declare all that I have above with confidence. As for any heretical cults or sects that may have originated within Judaism but subsequently splintered from it, I cannot vouch. It is known, for example, that followers of the infamous false Messiah and apostate Shabbetai Tzevi perverted certain Kabbalistic writings in order to claim that incest was holy. The actions of heretics and apostates who pervert the teachings of Judaism does not discredit Judaism.

    Ron Unz wrote,

    After all, famed linguist Noam Chomsky had lauded Shahak’s works for their “outstanding scholarship,” and numerous of our other most prominent public intellectuals such as Christopher Hitchens, Edward Said, and Gore Vidal had been similarly lavish in their praise.

    None of whom were Judaic scholars. Chomsky, while obviously of Jewish descent, is far removed from any Judaic observance or learning. I have heard him make statements that revealed an embarrassing ignorance of some of the fundamental tenets of Judaism.

    For example, Chomsky claimed that belief is not that important in Judaism; that it is primarily deeds and actions that count. This is patently false. While the latter are essential in their own right, it is belief that is primary. One who sins and fails to fulfill the commandments will certainly suffer divine retribution but if he believes in the core tenets of the faith (codified as Thirteen Principles by Maimonides) then his soul will ultimately, after a lengthy and excruciatingly painful ordeal of atonement and purification, inherit eternal existence in the afterlife. In contrast, if one denies any one of the Thirteen fundamental principles of faith, then no amount of good deeds can save him from eternal damnation. (Someone might want to inform Luke Ford of what I just wrote, as I have heard him repeatedly perpetuate the same falsehood that I cited from Chomsky above.)

    Incidentally, I would ask Ron Unz, are there no other religions or at least aspects of religions other than Judaism that he holds in contempt and views with disdain and contempt, apparently never finding anything redeeming in? Has Mr. Unz never heard of passages, rituals, traditions or beliefs that offend Enlightenment sensibilities from religions other than Judaism? I wonder what he thinks of the Hindu concept of caste, to take but one example that comes to mind.

    Being one of those whom the estimable Bardon Kaldian (much of whose writings I’ve appreciated, incidentally) has called “freaks” (or a word to similar effect), what Reg Caeser (if memory serves, and also who I mostly appreciate) has called “troglodytes”, I must remove myself at the moment. For it is Friday, the sun is rapidly descending, and one of the Oddities of my religion…

    • Replies: @utu
  166. utu says:
    @Dissident

    Listen, if Jack D has written that no blood contact is permitted except for circumcision I would not have written my comment. So why Jack D did not include the exception? He did not overlook it but wanted to make a stronger argument because once you admit to one exception in the doctrine then obviously one may think other exceptions might be possible. He mislead us and you did not protest, you stayed silent until I objected.

    Has human sacrifice always been completely anathema in Judaism? There are scholars who would not agree with this statement. One can find passages in Torah and Talmud where human sacrifice is being discussed and which imply that human sacrifice was practiced.

    Were there Jews who claimed that human blood ritual was practiced? Yes, Sabbatean Frankists in 1759 challenged rabbis of Poland (the Talmudists) to the debate where they intended to prove that the Talmud teaches that Christian blood is needed, and whoever believes in the Talmud must need it. The debate with over 30 rabbis took place in Lvov and lasted over two weeks.

    Is it possible that there were some Ashkenazi sects that practiced some form of blood ritual that required human blood and which necessitated killing humans? Ariel Toaff says yes. Read his book.

    Why do you feel obligated to defend all possible Jewish sects of which you are not even aware. Bad things happen. There are bad and stupid people out there also among the Jews. You could always use the true Scotsman defense and claim that they were not true Jews (or David Berkowitz defense that he was adopted) which you always do when Trotsky or Genrikh Yagoda are mentioned. .

    And if there are indeed passages in Torah and Talmud that condone human sacrifices as Sabbatean Frankists claimed repudiating these doctrines would go a long way to creating good will between Judaism and people of other religious faiths.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  167. Franz says:
    @Anonymous

    Dr Francis had considered himself a skeptic for many years and kept religion to a minimum in his writings. If a faith person said something good he’d repeat it, and if silly he’d debunk it. He’s writings show a rationalist with Deistic sympathies, like Victor Hugo.

    Good stance for a writer: Allows a sort of belief that keeps the critical mind neutral.

    So far as the skuttlebutt line goes, Sam very possibly was being polite to a priest who’d volunteered to see him as he was ailing. There was no reason to be rude. But if Sam was truly out of it, it was not correct to offer him the rites.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  168. @Franz

    By the way, my recollection is that Sam Francis bore down and, impressively, lost a lot of weight in the early 2000s. Then he went in for a seemingly minor surgery, during which he died. My vague impression is it was kind of like Joan Rivers’ iatrogenic death, but I’m not going to blame anybody.

    • Replies: @Franz
  169. Rosie says:
    @Thomas

    @Alden, both you and @Rosie engage in the childish pattern that identity politics SJWs engage in, of conflating any criticism of any member your favorite victim group with blind hatred of the whole group. Flush your brain of that pollution.

    Groans. Will this narrative never die?

    I really don’t understand how you can minimize foul language about “conservathots” as some sort of even-handed, rational criticism of women.

  170. Franz says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Then he went in for a seemingly minor surgery, during which he died.

    It’s the Andy Warhol Syndrome. He went in for gallbladder surgery and the side effects killed him.

    “Routine procedures” seem to kill more often than the dramatic major ones. Maybe patients are monitored less because it’s considered minor. Warhol got through his procedure fine, but they didn’t keep an eye on him and he developed an arrhythmia.

    There’s a book called Undoctored by… a doctor (William Davis). He gives lots of advice and says your safest bet is to STAY AWAY from all of them.

    He’s got some good stuff to say: https://blog.undoctored.com/

  171. MEH 0910 says:

    In October 2015, Miller warned McHugh that Hurricane Patricia would drive a massive wave of Mexican immigrants across the border seeking temporary protected status (TPS): “And they will all get TPS. And all the ones here will get TPS too. That needs to be the weekend’s BIG story. TPS is everything.”

    When McHugh asks if there’s a precedent for such an event, Miller sends her a link to an article on the anti-immigration website VDARE by race science promoter Steve Sailer, which McHugh published that day.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  172. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    In one email published by “Hatewatch,” Miller in 2015 railed against Temporary Protected Status (TPS), a policy that allows some foreign nationals to stay in the U.S. due to dangerous conditions in their home countries. Miller pushed McHugh to write how Hurricane Patricia could lead to Mexican citizens fleeing the storm’s destruction for the U.S. Miller sent McHugh a VDARE article penned by Steve Sailer, a white supremacist who traffics in pseudoscience that claims some ethnicities are less intelligent and more prone to crime, with the commentary, “That needs to be the weekend’s BIG story. TPS is everything.”

  173. @Lot

    I went when I was four; how much more open-hearted can you get? And yet here I am.

  174. MEH 0910 says:
    @Ron Unz

    One way to test my hypothesis would be for some of the readers here to contact that SPLC author and bring to his attention the contents of five or six of my most controversial articles, thereby seemingly providing him material for a long series of follow-up pieces.

    Tiny Duck has volunteered in the past:

    Tiny Duck says:
    August 15, 2017 at 11:38 am GMT

    I will not contribute funds to terrorism and white supremacy.

    Places like this have led directly to the Charlottesville massacre

    In fact I have reported everyone here to the southern poverty law center

    Tiny Duck says:
    May 9, 2018 at 4:16 am GMT

    Great news

    Hopefully this place will be next

    I have contacted the SPLC so I’ve done my part

    Also read the comments at the NYT

    The People are against you

  175. Dissident says:
    @utu

    Why do you feel obligated to defend all possible Jewish sects of which you are not even aware.

    I don’t and I didn’t. I wrote,

    As for any heretical cults or sects that may have originated within Judaism but subsequently splintered from it, I cannot vouch. [Emphasis added now] It is known, for example, that followers of the infamous false Messiah and apostate Shabbetai Tzevi perverted certain Kabbalistic writings in order to claim that incest was holy. The actions of heretics and apostates who pervert the teachings of Judaism does [sic] not discredit Judaism [emphasis added now].

    Perhaps you missed that.

    Nor have I suggested, your insinuations to the contrary notwithstanding, that even devout and loyal Jews are above reproach; the categorical statements I made were limited-to the question of human sacrifice. I unequivocally asserted (and still do assert) (a) that Judaism has never sanctioned, encouraged or permitted human sacrifice of any kind; and (b) that said practice has never been engaged-in by anyone who could credibly have claimed to have been doing so in the name of, or with the sanction of Judaism.

    You could always use the true Scotsman defense and claim that they were not true Jews (or David Berkowitz defense that he was adopted) which you always do when Trotsky or Genrikh Yagoda are mentioned.

    Trotsky and Yagoda were genetically Jewish. I am not aware of anyone who disputes or even questions that. Individuals such as Trotsky and Yagoda, however, along with the other Jewish Communists, were avowed atheists who had completely renounced the faith from which and the people from whom they were descended. Rabid apostates, the Jewish Bolsheviks were no less vicious in their treatment of devout Jews than they were in their treatment of non-Jews. This critical distinction is typically elided by those who categorically and indiscriminately condemn and hold culpable Jews and Judaism.

    And if there are indeed passages in Torah and Talmud that condone human sacrifices

    When an accusation is made, the burden of proof lies upon the accuser to prove the truth of the accusation. The burden is not upon the accused to disprove the accusation.

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