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Here is an inadvertently funny New York Times article about a band of plucky underdog marginalized outsider bloggers in the banlieues of Paris speaking Truth to Power, except that all the details undermine the premise …
Paris’s Voiceless Find a Megaphone Online
By AIDA ALAMI JULY 4, 2015BONDY, France — They gather every Tuesday for a staff meeting, bloggers, journalists and young people from the impoverished Paris suburbs, at the offices of the Bondy Blog, named for the surrounding neighborhood. …
The blog, which was created during the riots that spread through France in 2005, gives a voice to groups often underrepresented in mainstream news media coverage. Self-described citizen journalism, the Bondy Blog regularly reports on politics and social issues, with many of the writers sharing scenes and moments from their lives at work or in the neighborhood.
The blog, which has 220,000 visitors a month,
Or about 7,333 per day, which is not bad, but not exactly Global News.
has won awards for its work, and its journalists regularly collaborate with outlets like Télérama, Elle, Le Monde.fr, Canal Plus, L’ Obs and Radio France. …
“The French establishment is a little uncomfortable with them,” Mr. Aidi said in an interview. “The American Embassy often consults and invites the journalists to come to the United States. It gives voices to banlieue residents. Most of the journalists are from the community, and of immigrant background. And now they will send a journalist to do a story on police brutality in the U.S., or if Muslims are better off in America.”
While some in the establishment may be uncomfortable with the Bondy Blog, that has not stopped a procession of politicians from making the pilgrimage to its offices.
“Politicians jostle to come here,” Mr. Nabili said with a smile after the prep session, standing in front of a board full of newspaper and magazine covers and clips that mention the blog. “We are over-quoted in the media, because there is a huge void in these neighborhoods to fill.” …
While the blog’s contributors have been praised for their reporting, their greater purpose is to give voice to the voiceless, and they are not shy about expressing their opinions.
Widad Ketfi, 30, one of the blog’s top writers, explained her approach as she covered the trial this year of the two police officers involved in the 2005 case. She readily admits that she was furious when the two officers were cleared of the charges, and made sure her coverage reflected that.
“At the trial, I was so emotional and angry that I wasn’t a journalist anymore,” Ms. Ketfi said. “I can’t get used to the cynicism of other journalists. And that court decision was an insult to the people in the banlieues.”
Ms. Ketfi, who has been writing for the blog since 2007, has graduated to working for mainstream news media like Canal Plus and M6 television. An influential voice in social media, she was also featured on the cover of Le Monde in 2010. She traveled to Gaza to cover the war there last summer for the Bondy Blog.
She likes to describe herself as a “no-go zone” reporter, a reference to Fox News reporting early this year, inaccurately, that the French and British police avoided some predominantly Muslim neighborhoods because they were dangerous.
“When I started writing for the Bondy Blog, I had a desire to change the way young people from the banlieues were portrayed in the media,” Ms. Ketfi said. “We live in these neighborhoods, so we have a different outlook and a better understanding and approach.”
The daughter of Algerian immigrants — her father is active politically, but cannot vote — Ms. Ketfi went to journalism school after discovering a passion for reporting at the Bondy Blog.
She is unapologetic about being an opinionated journalist.
“Journalists take a side on matters, but don’t realize it,” she said. “For example, when they write ‘Je suis Charlie,’ ” she added, referring to the rallying cry heard after the terrorist attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, “it is not a neutral stance, which is perfectly fine.”
In January, the French left-leaning newspaper Libération began hosting the blog on its website. The blog’s reputation has reached across the Atlantic, and the actor Samuel L. Jackson paid it a visit in 2010. The organization even got Serena Williams, winner of the French Open last month, to give tennis lessons to local children.
Islam is a major subject for the blog, though it does not consider itself a Muslim publication. “Islam is something that many journalists still don’t know well,” said Faiza Zerouala, whose parents are from North Africa. She also found her calling at the blog.
“The Bondy Blog tries to remove the blinders that newsrooms continue to wear,” she added. “A whole section of society in the banlieues is ignored in France. Many topics like Islamophobia and racism are not discussed.”
Ms. Zerouala wrote a book, “The Voices Behind the Veil,” in which she talks about the diversity of women who are not afraid to show they are different, and wear the head scarves known as hijabs to show their Muslim faith.
“There is a majority discourse in France about women wearing a head scarf being submissive,” she said. “It is always the same analysis.”
Ms. Ketfi does not wear a head scarf and has never felt like an outsider in France. But she believes the local news media stigmatizes Arabs and Muslims.
“You feel attacked,” she said. “In newsrooms, reporters are careful not to say offensive things in front of me, but they have shown on several occasions that they have a bias against Muslims.”
Mr. Nabili, who also teaches journalism, said he viewed his work at the blog as an investment in France’s next generation of journalists. With a state-funded budget of about $135,000 a year, he manages to pay contributors around $45 an article.
France has been an extremely centralized country/culture since at least Louis XIV. It’s a lousy place to be an outsider, but a cool country in which to be an insider.
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France may have been politically centralized since Cardinal Richelieu and Louis XIV, but culturally and liguistically it remained suprisingly diverse. Alsace and Brittany, on opposite ends of France, retain a surprising amount of local culture and even language today.
It is increasingly les Français de souche (old stock French) who are the outsiders.
Not exactly true. The present centralization dates to the First Republic and was consolidated under the First Empire. The Bourbon Versailles monarchy was “absolutist” only in that the king managed to govern and command loyalty from all the provinces without calling the legislative body for some 175 years. In reality the king did not have nearly so much purely discretionary power, relative to his subjects, as the President does in the Fifth Republic. The historiography of Belloc or Kuenheldt-Leddhin on the beginning of the French Revolution as a return to ancient liberties is simply wrong. For a Christian, a conservative or a subsidiarist, there was *nothing* holy about the French Revolution. About the best that can be said for it is that something was going to happen to rectify the gap between the lingering formal power of the landed aristocracy and the collapse of their real economic clout in favor of the up-and-coming industrial bourgeoisie. What actually happened was not good.
The second statement is however quite accurate. To say these people are a voice for outsiders is completely off-the-wall. For as much as the French government subsidizes and pulls up blacks and Maghrebins, it should be clear that if it were possible to integrate them they would already be integrated. (Of course, similarly to the situation with most Hispanics in the U.S., it would not be desirable to integrate them even if it were possible, but that’s another topic.)
Side note: the Hollande government did a massive promotional campaign in favor of the film La Marche which documented the 1983 March Against Racism and Discrimination. The film was an utter flop, and its failure was attributed in large part to the state promotion giving off a general impression that it was ordered propaganda.
On a slightly different topic, the swimming pool occupation noted recently in Garland, Texas is being replicated in the Toulouse area. Arabs and Africans are simply showing up and using private pools without permission: squatters; evidently French has simply borrowed the English word. Residents trying to get them out have been attacked and there have been broken bones and lacerations; one, ironically to a black man.
The dispossession continues!
Whereas, you are correct that Belloc wasn't critical enough of the Revolution.Replies: @Nico
The Bourbons’ centralisation was not complete, to put it mildly. The country had 13 legal jurisdictions, each with its own parlement. These were appellate courts rather than legislative bodies, but laws and edicts of the Crown had to be approved by them. Among other things, this resulted in a crazily uneven taxation system, which fuelled an enormous industry of smuggling from one part of the country to another. One of the desperate efforts to fight this was the building a three-metre-high wall around Paris in the 1780s, with the gates guarded by tax officials.
Then there was the obstacle of language. At the time of the Revolution, people spoke at least half a dozen mutually unintelligible French dialects, not to mention the non-French languages like Breton.
The French Revolution happened to complete the political project of the Bourbons as the Bourbons themselves could never have done.
If I were a Frenchman I’d be pretty pissed off that the US is funding activists who are working to undermine me and my culture.
Oh, no no no. It’s not better in the US one bit. Way worse than France, in fact.
Someone’s spewing propaganda because Americans have not forgotten 9/11. The place is full of gun-toting redneck Christian bigots. You don’t want to come here. You must trust me on this!
The US not only finance the Color Revolutions in Eastern Europe but also the Third Worldization of Western Europe.
In my opinion, HBD has some of the best explanations for all manner of social phenomena that previously was mysterious. I would call it the “dark matter” of social sciences.
However, it seems odd that in their own countries, these Muslims exhibit very low rates of criminality and violence. Why do they act so differently in France?
Recollection of beheadings in the public square, or perhaps having an eye put out (as was done to my Kuwaiti neighbor), or having a hand cut off (imagine the visual for Stop, Thief) will have a deterrent effect. The message received by denizens is that rules are clear and the justice is swift and unmerciful. It has a certain Old Testament flair, although inspired by a different publication.
When the message is unclear, or when there are gray areas, or because Immigrants, behavior degenerates. You get what you tolerate.
But this is still a great analogy.
1) back home they are a settled population with a larger proportion of older men whereas in the west they are disproportionately young males - if you get a lot of young men together without a restraining hand then you'll have trouble
2) violent competition for females via gangs is a side effect of this disproportion (magnified among muslims because they keep their women at home whereas western girls are allowed out)
3) also the 1% import poor people to drive down wages so in the west muslims are disproportionately poor and the rich are white whereas back home the rich are the same ethnic group so in the west class conflict and race conflict get combined
“If I were a Frenchman I’d be pretty pissed off that the US is funding activists who are working to undermine me and my culture.”
A color revolution planned if Marine LePen wins the next presidential election?
Then there was the obstacle of language. At the time of the Revolution, people spoke at least half a dozen mutually unintelligible French dialects, not to mention the non-French languages like Breton.Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous
Show me a three-metre-high wall, and I’ll show you a smuggler with four-metre-long ladder.
I well remember Ms. Ketfi Speaking Truth To Power in The Bondy Blog when she covered that story about transgendered hijab-wearing activists traveling to Riyadh, then Tehran, then Raqqa. At each place, they contrasted Islam’s approach to Gay Marriage with the benighted oppression of France, to say nothing of the US.
Or maybe I’m thinking of someone else and some other event. The point is, as a Times-subscribing intellectual, I know who’s on the Right Side of History, and celebrate their transgressive progressiveness!
Steve Sailer said:
And the first three responses said:
LMAO. The West, its population, is changing radically by the day. Ancient history (over 100 years old) is becoming as useful as knowledge of Thomson and Dalton atomic models in discussions of contemporary particle physics.
The second statement is however quite accurate. To say these people are a voice for outsiders is completely off-the-wall. For as much as the French government subsidizes and pulls up blacks and Maghrebins, it should be clear that if it were possible to integrate them they would already be integrated. (Of course, similarly to the situation with most Hispanics in the U.S., it would not be desirable to integrate them even if it were possible, but that's another topic.)
Side note: the Hollande government did a massive promotional campaign in favor of the film La Marche which documented the 1983 March Against Racism and Discrimination. The film was an utter flop, and its failure was attributed in large part to the state promotion giving off a general impression that it was ordered propaganda.Replies: @Ira, @Diversity Heretic, @wiseguy
If you read De Tocqueville “The Ancien Regime and the Revolution” he makes the precise point that the centralization occurred from the time of Louis XIV and the revolution swept away the last vestiges of he feudal titles etc., but the centralization continued through to his time during the 2nd Empire of Louis Napoleon. The distribution of power between the king himself and the functionaires could be questioned. So I do not disagree with your basic point, but I would say, via De Tocqueville, that Steve Sailer’s sentence is correct.
At the end it’s mentioned that they get a $135,000 subsidy from the state so the state budget is what’s keeping them in existence? Any additional Soros money coming their way? The US government invites some of those journalists to come to the US. Does that mean that some are being recruited by the CIA? The US is mucking about in French affairs in very suspicious ways.
Apparently those Muslims want the host country to adjust to them rather than the other way around and probably were heartened to see the Hebdo people get killed.
Beyond caricature. These topics are more than discussed, they are jawed about endlessly, in all the mainstream press outlets in a constant, battering drumbeat. Unimaginable sums of money are poured into these banlieues every year, directly from the taxpayers’ pockets, to build sports centers, preschools and grocery stores that will end up vandalized or burned down. Often similar to the situation in the U.S.–I gathered some data comparing the French and American sides of this coin:
I Don’t Belong Here
The Bondy Blog is mostly filled with articles on Arabs and Blacks, which is only normal, as minorities tend to feel strong group identity. But France’s long insistence on the color-blind assimilationist model, where there are no races or creeds, just ‘citizens,’ is shredding more and more in the face of these growing ethnic blocks and their ever-louder demands. The Americanization of race relations continues apace.
A color revolution planned if Marine LePen wins the next presidential election?Replies: @Chiron
If Le Pen got elected we would see a Yugoslavia War situation, NATO-US dismembering another European country to “save” ethnic minority/muslim criminals.
What was the difference between Milosevic and Ariel Sharon?
No, we would not.
France is the #3 nuclear power in the world, ahead of China.
They can do as they will, and all we'll do about is, is levy sanctions. We don't attack nuclear armed powers, even to defend the Narrative.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_4_the_barbarians.html
The second statement is however quite accurate. To say these people are a voice for outsiders is completely off-the-wall. For as much as the French government subsidizes and pulls up blacks and Maghrebins, it should be clear that if it were possible to integrate them they would already be integrated. (Of course, similarly to the situation with most Hispanics in the U.S., it would not be desirable to integrate them even if it were possible, but that's another topic.)
Side note: the Hollande government did a massive promotional campaign in favor of the film La Marche which documented the 1983 March Against Racism and Discrimination. The film was an utter flop, and its failure was attributed in large part to the state promotion giving off a general impression that it was ordered propaganda.Replies: @Ira, @Diversity Heretic, @wiseguy
Good analysis. The Bourbon monarchy was by no means as absolutist as it has been portrayed. It encountered constraints whenever it tried to act. Maybe it would have been better if it had been less constrained; in retrospect Louis XVI seems like a committed reformer but perhaps not strong enough. Or perhaps things were just too far gone.
On a slightly different topic, the swimming pool occupation noted recently in Garland, Texas is being replicated in the Toulouse area. Arabs and Africans are simply showing up and using private pools without permission: squatters; evidently French has simply borrowed the English word. Residents trying to get them out have been attacked and there have been broken bones and lacerations; one, ironically to a black man.
The dispossession continues!
I am a Frenchman and, yes, I’m pretty pissed off by what the US embassy does in France. More pissed off than you probably think. It began when Wikileaks published telegrams by the American ambassador, who was a former entertainment industry executive named Rivkin. But this anger doesn’t show in the mainstream media, and mainstream politicians like Sarkozy and Hollande are pro-American.
"The real problem is the failure of white and Christian France to view their darker, Muslim compatriots as real citizens. The cumulative effect has been the creation of a generation of young males lacking parental control and unequipped to secure and hold a job, even if they could break through the formidable barriers of prejudice faced by young Arabs and young blacks in particular."
Dear America, do tell, how did you manage to remove those terrible barriers of prejudice?
Scathing U.S. view of French unrest and Muslim integration in WikiLeaks
(December 2, 2010)Replies: @Anonymous
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=825jBxhoYXA
"Defending Israel is the fight of my life" -- Sarkozy
However, it seems odd that in their own countries, these Muslims exhibit very low rates of criminality and violence. Why do they act so differently in France?Replies: @Kauai, @International Jew, @Nathan Wartooth, @anon
In re Arab country crime:
Recollection of beheadings in the public square, or perhaps having an eye put out (as was done to my Kuwaiti neighbor), or having a hand cut off (imagine the visual for Stop, Thief) will have a deterrent effect. The message received by denizens is that rules are clear and the justice is swift and unmerciful. It has a certain Old Testament flair, although inspired by a different publication.
When the message is unclear, or when there are gray areas, or because Immigrants, behavior degenerates. You get what you tolerate.
However, it seems odd that in their own countries, these Muslims exhibit very low rates of criminality and violence. Why do they act so differently in France?Replies: @Kauai, @International Jew, @Nathan Wartooth, @anon
Dunno about that. Look at all the mosque bombings in Iraq, look at how ISIS behaves when it takes over a city, look at that beach resort massacre in Tunisia, look at Boko Haram, South Sudan… The worst terrorist incident Europe sees in a typical year would qualify as daily background noise in the Arab world.
Outside of savagery and terrorism the rates of criminality are exceedingly low in Arab societies. They seem to act differently in France. I would like to understand why.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Those are acts of terrorism and must be separated from criminality. By your logic you could say the same about the Zionists fighting the British.
Outside of savagery and terrorism the rates of criminality are exceedingly low in Arab societies. They seem to act differently in France. I would like to understand why.
Then there was the obstacle of language. At the time of the Revolution, people spoke at least half a dozen mutually unintelligible French dialects, not to mention the non-French languages like Breton.Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous
When Mencius Moldbug defends absolute monarchy, people think it’s because he likes kings and princes. Actually, it’s because when central power is represented by a single human being, it can’t get away with the things it does when it symbolizes an abstraction like the “general will of the people” or the “right side of history”.
The French Revolution happened to complete the political project of the Bourbons as the Bourbons themselves could never have done.
Oh, okay. So Bondy Blog is a lot like iSteve. They’re subversive and undercut the Narrative.
Wait a second. That can’t be right…
Steve, have any foreign embassies consulted you or invited you to their home countries?
But, wait. The introductory paragraph said that you were underrepresented in mainstream media coverage. Which is it? I’m so confused…
However, it seems odd that in their own countries, these Muslims exhibit very low rates of criminality and violence. Why do they act so differently in France?Replies: @Kauai, @International Jew, @Nathan Wartooth, @anon
Well, it would be like if a scientist figured out what dark matter was, but then all of the other scientists pretended like they still have no idea what it is.
But this is still a great analogy.
I never ceased to be amazed at how the “voiceless” always manage to shout so loud and so often.
I never knew you had any experience living in France as an outsider or an insider, Steve Sailer. It sounds like one of those throw away lines that does not actually mean anything of substance.
However, it seems odd that in their own countries, these Muslims exhibit very low rates of criminality and violence. Why do they act so differently in France?Replies: @Kauai, @International Jew, @Nathan Wartooth, @anon
age and gender is a large part of it
1) back home they are a settled population with a larger proportion of older men whereas in the west they are disproportionately young males – if you get a lot of young men together without a restraining hand then you’ll have trouble
2) violent competition for females via gangs is a side effect of this disproportion (magnified among muslims because they keep their women at home whereas western girls are allowed out)
3) also the 1% import poor people to drive down wages so in the west muslims are disproportionately poor and the rich are white whereas back home the rich are the same ethnic group so in the west class conflict and race conflict get combined
As an American I am pretty pissed off that the US is funding activists who are working to undermine me and my culture.
In the UK you’ll find similar state-subsidised blogs.
“Full accounts of all trading and business activity will be published annually and all grants, trust, sponsorship or any other funding declared” – just a bit difficult to find, that’s all, but they got £15,000 from the Equalities and Human Rights Commission a year or so back.
Speaking of revolutions, how long can the current situation in France continue? Promoting non White Islam over the French? Houllebecq was wrong in Submission. Clearly one must be non White to be aMuslim. Race and identity mixed together. Who has seen such a thing?
http://www.ostroyreport.com/
Extremely liberal pro immigrant blog skewering Trump, Republicans undercover racism of the word ‘thug’ ect . The blogger is the wealthy and successful (CEO of his own marketing firm) Andy Ostroy, who just happens to have been the husband of Adrienne Shelly the filmmaker you mentioned who was murdered by a hard working illegal immigrant
What does it mean to be French? Let us look at reality squarely: these people will never be French by any definition remotely acceptable to those who traditionally self-identify as French. For everyone who lives in France to become ‘French’, the old self-identities will have to be destroyed. The cultures of all peoples change over time, but the ‘new’ France will be, thanks to foolishly open immigration, something other than it would have grown into organically.
This can be said about every Western nation, including the United States. The American people of 1965 would have organically developed into something different than that which has evolved if they had been given a choice. Our ancestors made staggering contributions to human civilization and deserved a chance to continue to grow within our own culture.
I recall that old fool John McCain calling Russia “a gas station masquerading as a country.” It is far, far more true to say that we are a hedge fund masquerading as a country. God help us all if the Mammon-worship ties that bind us together ever fray and break.
France is or very recently was a tribal nation of the Catholic ethnic French. They are being converted to a multicultural ethnic-neutral society against their will and yes, there is bias and rivalry between the Judeo-Christian ethnic French and the blacks and the Arabs. And it’s definitely not a one way bias. There is extreme hate towards Jews from the Arab newcomers.
What’s weird is Algeria recently conducted a brutal ethnic cleansing of their nation of all the ethnic Euro whites known as the Pied Noirs. That’s far more drastic than the kind of bias and racism you see in France. Why doesn’t anyone notice or put this kind of political pressure on North Africa or the Middle East and the Arab/black ethnic groups to embrace others or destroy every last trace of anti-semitism and anti-ethnic European sentiment from their ranks.
The idea that France has an ethnoreligious character, is seen as bizarre and nearly Vichy-esque. It will take a philosophical revolution and national revival.
Extremely liberal pro immigrant blog skewering Trump, Republicans undercover racism of the word 'thug' ect . The blogger is the wealthy and successful (CEO of his own marketing firm) Andy Ostroy, who just happens to have been the husband of Adrienne Shelly the filmmaker you mentioned who was murdered by a hard working illegal immigrantReplies: @Rob McX, @Neoconned
Unbelievable!
In other European news, Greece’s outgoing finance minister was the European version of Rachel Dolezal, long before Rachel herself:
http://www.businessinsider.sg/yanis-varoufakis-president-black-student-union-essex-university-1980s-2015-7/#.VZrzmc_75jo
Extremely liberal pro immigrant blog skewering Trump, Republicans undercover racism of the word 'thug' ect . The blogger is the wealthy and successful (CEO of his own marketing firm) Andy Ostroy, who just happens to have been the husband of Adrienne Shelly the filmmaker you mentioned who was murdered by a hard working illegal immigrantReplies: @Rob McX, @Neoconned
Great find! I just left a comment asking what harm illegal immigration could cause.
Not speaking of all Muslims, just N. African Arabs (which most French Muslims are): Saying the Tunisia beach killer is representative is like saying Timothy McVeigh or Adam Lanza represent all white Americans. Outside of the odd wackadoo, Arab countries not currently at war / civil war are considered to be fairly low-violent-crime by outsiders such as the State Dept. Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Their intentional homicide rates are not especially high, see some comparisons here.
The average Rashid growing up in a Moroccan working-class neighborhood has hugely different constraints placed on him than the one growing up in a French banlieue. Peter Frost recently had an excellent piece on some of the reasons. Environment is a big factor here.
Of course, the national homicide rate is 1.0/100,000.
Well summarized!
The second statement is however quite accurate. To say these people are a voice for outsiders is completely off-the-wall. For as much as the French government subsidizes and pulls up blacks and Maghrebins, it should be clear that if it were possible to integrate them they would already be integrated. (Of course, similarly to the situation with most Hispanics in the U.S., it would not be desirable to integrate them even if it were possible, but that's another topic.)
Side note: the Hollande government did a massive promotional campaign in favor of the film La Marche which documented the 1983 March Against Racism and Discrimination. The film was an utter flop, and its failure was attributed in large part to the state promotion giving off a general impression that it was ordered propaganda.Replies: @Ira, @Diversity Heretic, @wiseguy
IIRC, Kuehnelt-Leddihn condemned the entire French Revolution, including the beginning.
Whereas, you are correct that Belloc wasn’t critical enough of the Revolution.
The US has so much to teach France to help it “face up to its pervasive prejudices against Blacks and Arabs”.
“The real problem is the failure of white and Christian France to view their darker, Muslim compatriots as real citizens. The cumulative effect has been the creation of a generation of young males lacking parental control and unequipped to secure and hold a job, even if they could break through the formidable barriers of prejudice faced by young Arabs and young blacks in particular.”
Dear America, do tell, how did you manage to remove those terrible barriers of prejudice?
Scathing U.S. view of French unrest and Muslim integration in WikiLeaks
(December 2, 2010)
You have blacks and we have Arabs.
There is a lot of comapiracies saying that Sarkozy and even Hollande are crypto-jews, Hollande’s Prime-Minister; Manuel Valls is married to a jewish woman.
“Defending Israel is the fight of my life” — Sarkozy
Outside of savagery and terrorism the rates of criminality are exceedingly low in Arab societies. They seem to act differently in France. I would like to understand why.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Banlieue crime is political: they don’t accept the authority of the French state.
The White/Gaullic French or each other?Replies: @anon
She actually chooses as her number one example of bias the call of ‘Je suis Charlie,’. Presumably she has a different perspective and does not sympathize with the famous ethnic French artists and the mostly Jews in a Kosher Deli who were massacred by Islamic extremist immigrant terrorists.
The NYT is actually quoting her unchallenged that ‘Je suis Charlie,’ is a two sided issue. That is beyond ridiculous. There are many laws outright denying Holocaust denial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
I don’t deny the holocaust at all, the Nazis were wrong, but I think it is beyond obscene that the NYT is suggesting that the Je suis Charlie is a two sided issue.
but who do they commit crime against?
The White/Gaullic French or each other?
Marseille, France seems to be 35% Muslim and also has a large number of subsaharan Africans too. The total homicide rate is 2.8 per 100,000.
Of course, the national homicide rate is 1.0/100,000.
Power is like God. It is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. No means yes and everywhere means nowhere.
In 1907 the English writer G. K. Chesterton associated the jest with a contemporary skeptical viewpoint: 14
Many people have maintained the characteristic formula of modern scepticism, that Homer was not written by Homer, but by another person of the same name. Just in the same way many have maintained that Moses was not Moses but another person called Moses.
A similar wheeze is told of the Shakespere – Bacon controversy, when an aged wit was asked what he thought of the matter. “Of course,” he replied, “I do not know much about it, but if Bacon did not write those plays, he lost the greatest opportunity of his life.”
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/19/same-name/#more-9601
Non semper ea sunt quae videntur.
(Things are not always what they seem).
–Phaedrus, A.D. 8
http://www.baconscipher.com/Chapter1.html
The White/Gaullic French or each other?Replies: @anon
The white French who used to live in the banlieues – until they are all driven out – after that they mostly deal drugs and riot if the police try and stop them.
(And if it’s the same as everywhere else the gang culture that develops during the ethnic cleansing phase continues afterwards so there’s still a ton of sexual violence against local girls after all the white people have been forced out.)
Yes, and how the political system knocks itself out pandering to the “disenfranchised.”
It was in France that the idea of the liberal nation-state first took form, culminating in the Jules Ferry laws and the Laicite law of 1905.
The idea that France has an ethnoreligious character, is seen as bizarre and nearly Vichy-esque. It will take a philosophical revolution and national revival.
"The real problem is the failure of white and Christian France to view their darker, Muslim compatriots as real citizens. The cumulative effect has been the creation of a generation of young males lacking parental control and unequipped to secure and hold a job, even if they could break through the formidable barriers of prejudice faced by young Arabs and young blacks in particular."
Dear America, do tell, how did you manage to remove those terrible barriers of prejudice?
Scathing U.S. view of French unrest and Muslim integration in WikiLeaks
(December 2, 2010)Replies: @Anonymous
Vous avez les noirs, et nous avons les Arabes.
You have blacks and we have Arabs.
In 1978 the popular advice columnist Ann Landers printed the saying and improperly credited Beecher. She also changed “Henry” to “Harriet”: 10
CONFIDENTIAL to Ashamed of Myself: It has happened to all of us at one time or another. Harriet Ward Beecher said it best: “Speak when you are angry and you’ll make the best speech you’ll ever regret” http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/05/17/angry-speech/
That was way before Bruce was changed to Cait. Cool heads will prevail. Off with the second head.
Censorship, in my opinion, is a stupid and shallow way of approaching the solution to any problem. Though sometimes necessary, as witness a professional and technical secret that may have a bearing upon the welfare and very safety of this country, we should be very careful in the way we apply it, because in censorship always lurks the very great danger of working to the disadvantage of the American nation.
Dwight D Eisenhower
Dwight David Eisenhower (1890-1969) American general, US President (1953-61)
Speech, Associated Press luncheon, New York (24 Apr 1950)
Snowden solutions. The technical experts are in Russia working to our disadvantage. Hell, we have people here working to our disadvantage, so who needs the Russians?
http://www.history.com/…/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-guillotine
15 Sep 2014 … Over some 200 years of use, the guillotine claimed the heads of tens of thousands of victims ranging from common criminals to revolutionaries, …
US states are looking abroad for lethal injection chemicals. Let the blade do the talking. A real tax dollar saver. The number of victims is growing with the national debt. On top of the money disappearing the files are missing. My idea of a joke is the truth. He who laughs lasts.
“No reason to get excited,”
The thief he kindly spoke.
“There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we’ve been through that,
And this is not our fate.
So let us not talk falsely now,
The hour is getting late.”
I am an American in France and I understand and even sympathize with your anger. The truth is American Embassies are loathed and feared by riverains and expats alike. They are dark, foreboding and especially BIG places populated by attitude-laden bureaucrats known to be viscerally unpleasant creatures both on AND off the job. The U.S. Department of State, when it is not busy harassing Americans living abroad, likes to let the vassal status to which most American “allies” have been reduced get very high to its head.
Whereas, you are correct that Belloc wasn't critical enough of the Revolution.Replies: @Nico
From Leftism:
EKL commits several historiographical errors, here. First of all, he underestimates the perfidity of the American War for Independence (though to be fair, many monarchist-romantic conservatives overestimate it, as well). Second, in the following paragraphs, he overestates the influence of the American Revolution on the French Revolution. While no doubt there was inspiration, the impetus for what went down in France was distinctly French and European. Third, he equivocates. While here he appears to argue that the initial stages of the Revolution were a benign “return to the old,” a few phrases later he qualifies this “aristocratic” initial uprising as a product of the nobility of the robe while a few paragraph still later derogatorily comparing them to the old nobles of the sword.
“If Le Pen got elected we would see a Yugoslavia War situation, NATO-US dismembering another European country to “save” ethnic minority/muslim criminals.”
No, we would not.
France is the #3 nuclear power in the world, ahead of China.
They can do as they will, and all we’ll do about is, is levy sanctions. We don’t attack nuclear armed powers, even to defend the Narrative.
“But she believes the local news media stigmatizes Arabs and Muslims.”
It’s simple: local news = more local crime news compared to national news media. If Arabs and muslims weren’t committing so much crime the local news media wouldn’t be covering it so much. Stigmatization my @ss. Worst: in France ethnic statistics are illegal so the crime wave linked to arab & african immigrants is covered up by the State and it opens the door for academic buffoons newspapers editors and TV talkingheads to deny the link between arab & african immigrants and all types of crimes.
For the cyberequivalent of a weekly neighborhood freebie paper? That sounds quite good. Do they run BOGO coupons for Carrefour?