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The protester’s explanation is more or less confirmed by the black woman who created the notorious video: Pentland did not initiate the confrontation, he was called in by a woman seeking a protector. From Newsweek:

The woman behind the viral video that captured Army Sergeant Jonathan Pentland shoving a Black man in a confrontation is speaking out.

Shadae McCallum told WCSC she had been on a walk in a South Carolina neighborhood Monday evening when she saw the altercation break out between a woman and a young Black man and thought they knew each other.

McCallum said. “I was just minding my business, and then her mother-in-law comes out as well and started yelling at him, telling him he needs to leave and he doesn’t live here. But then again, it wasn’t a big deal, it wasn’t physical. It was just an argument until the mother-in-law goes from her house and she gets Mr. Pentland out of his house, and that’s when he came in. He was being very aggressive.”

McCallum said Pentland then pushed the young man, at which point she took out her phone to begin recording.

It’s possible that the videographer was in on it from beforehand, but, probably more likely, she really was out for a walk in her neighborhood in the pleasant April in South Carolina evening.

That of course would mean the neighborhood is not some 100% white bastion of racism, but that Sgt. Pentland chose to live in an integrated one.

By the way, the young lady who took the video is signed up with a modeling agency. She’s into kind of a 1970s Pam Grier look.

Judging by her twitter feed, she’s a girly-girl who is really into hair and make-up.

Her pinned tweet is one of the more sensible things I’ve seen anybody say about World War Hair:

 
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  1. Anon[378] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve-O, talking in the vernanc of the teen girl. So lit. Although, at first I thought you wrote ‘some Rambo.’

  2. We all know that, the media got it completely wrong

    The media got it wrong on purpose, as is their custom. The purpose being to prevent the “we all know that” part of your sentence.

  3. They know and are deliberately hiding it. Around 40% of the population will lap this up like they always do because they avoid alternative sources of information as a moral imperative.
    Funny to think, if you surreptitiously seized control of the MSM and big tech, you could turn that same 40% into goosestepping Nazis or fast-keeping Eastern Orthodox Christians or anything else you wanted within a generation.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @Bill
  4. anonymous[736] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  5. I would think Pentland would be a hero. He didn’t call the cops. Isn’t that what BLM wanted?

    BTW, in the UK Daily Mail, a full 90% of the comments are anti-Pentland. They took the side of the psychotic sexual assaulter. They also believe in the sacredness of George Floyd.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    , @vhrm
  6. We should send large numbers of Blacks to Japan. It’s the least we can do.

  7. anon[352] • Disclaimer says:

    I love handsome black men.

    • Agree: L. Guapo
    • Replies: @Polistra
  8. Franz says:

    Ja, and I’ve been seeing it.

    Potential BLM recruits are smelling the Big Rat. Randoms simply hanging back for the moment, seeing that SOMEONE wants them as cannon fodder to bash the common, law abiding White Man.

    But what the Potential BLMs are beginning to see is that once their usefulness is over, they’ll join the White Man in the discard pile. Not good, as the big lug Trump used to say, not good at all.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  9. They should do a remake of the Andy Griffith show.

    Barney Fife shoots a black guy and Mayberry has race riots.

    Also, Andy Griffith comes out as gay.

  10. @JohnnyWalker123

    Franklin Canyon Reservoir.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  11. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Guys a fuckin brave citizen. showed great restraint. Possibly didnt call police cause he thought why fuck up this child like persons life, just give him the boot like the old days.

    Correct normal behavior is being pathologized, and this will end in just bullshit litigation that taxpayers shell out.

    This was low level spike lee shit from the 90s

    • Replies: @Anon
  12. gent says:

    This more or less confirms that this was a sting.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @El Dato
  13. JimDandy says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Someone should do a remake of this incident, wherein the sexual assaulter/stalker weirdo is a white boy who keeps messing with a black girl in an extremely entitled manner until her black mother-in-law brings out a Major Payne-esque black military man who advises the creep to move along and gives him a little shove to encourage him. The white boy, brimming with privilege, refuses to leave. Ultimately, the white community hears about this, becomes enraged, and forms a pitchforks-and-torches mob outside the black family’s home… The police take the side of the white boy and arrest the black Sgt… The military discusses discharge…

    I smell Oscars, people!

  14. OT

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/548738-west-point-expels-8-cadets-over-cheating-scandal-more-than-50-must-repeat-a

    The cheating took place while West Point students were studying remotely due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The school’s instructors initially raised accusations against 73 cadets, including 72 first-year cadets and one second-year, but two cases were dismissed due to a lack of evidence, four cadets were acquitted by a board of their peers and six cases were dismissed because the cadets resigned.

    Of the 61 cadets found guilty, 51 have to redo one full year, and two have to redo six months.

    In total, 52 cadets, or more than half of those caught cheating, were athletes, the majority on the football team, USA Today reported.

    Hmmm.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Anon
  15. Who knew Mayberry was in SoCal?

    They must be the descendants of some Okies who just wandered on over from the Inland Empire one day and decided to stay put.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  16. vhrm says:

    Well, i give Ms McCallum props for not lying about what happened (or at least saying as much as she did say). It’s sad that that’s noteworthy, but in today’s environment it is.

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth
  17. J.Ross says:
    @gent

    What about the Indianapolis guy being yet another “guy the FBI knew about but decided to not do anything about”? Is this a step up from being murdered by an FBI “informant,” as this guy did it for free?

  18. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    The dean of the Medill School, a former “Helen Gurley Brown Professor of Journalism” (!), is already BIPOC. But if the Mizzou dean or his current rival pope in Pulitzer Hall, Morningside Heights (both of them obviously straight-male white, the 1 W that replaces the 5) should ever happen to get me-too’d or McNeil’d for some reason, I think the South Carolina guy in the white T-shirt ought to throw his hat in the ring

  19. KenH says:

    Shadae say that she jes be mining her own bitness and that may be so but methinks once she saw the confrontation ensue she took sides based on the race of the two people involved and assumed the worst of Pentland because he was white.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @gent
  20. J.Ross says:

    >comparing this femoid to Pam Grier
    Steve. Steve. No. The closet has ruined your eyes. No.

    • Replies: @Abe
  21. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    It is almost as if hasty judgement, with incomplete evidence, is a bad idea.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  22. Those of us who have known African Americans as friends and colleagues have all run across someone who thinks like Ms. McCallum.

    Good for her.

    • Replies: @Curle
  23. @JohnnyWalker123

    One of my all time favorite shows. It had everything….it was funny….warm….and always had a solid theme. I love the way it captured the decency of whites in small town America.

    Interesting that Tim Wise singles out this show for intense hatred….and he gloats that this world is deliberately being destroyed.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  24. But but but…. can I touch her hair?

  25. Twinkie says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Also, Andy Griffith comes out as gay.

    Trans, you mean.

  26. vhrm says:
    @JimDandy

    Someone should do a remake of this incident, wherein the sexual assaulter/stalker weirdo is a white boy who keeps messing with a black girl in an extremely entitled manner until …

    Uh… UNTIL

    Utash was attacked by as many as a dozen people in April, according to witnesses, after he accidentally hit a 10-year-old boy with his pickup truck in Detroit and Debra Hughes stepped in to stop the beating, most likely saving his life.

    Utash, who was “nearly unrecognizable” following the beating, was in a medically induced coma for about a week. The boy was treated for a broken leg.

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/08/11/steve-utash-nurse-who-came-to-aid-connect-months-after-mob-beating/

    Which is still a better outcome than
    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-tyler-wingate-24-year-old-white-man-gets-in-car-accident-with-black-male-in-83-black-detroit-black-motorist-beats-him-to-death/

    So we thank you for your submission but we’ll have to decline to produce your script at this time because our studio doesn’t do fantasy features.

  27. S says:

    Same old, same old.

    The truth comes out now (something the corporate media probably knew all along anyway) after they’ve already gotten their mileage out of it. Seems all very disingenuous.

    Are we going to now see the corporate media, BLM, the US military, and law enforcement, do a week of penitence and apologies to the White guy who was falsely accused? The general public should be apologized to as well by all these same entities for misrepresenting the actual events.

    I doubt they’ll do that, though.

    Maybe the story will just quietly disappear, and the charges against the guy are dropped. That might be it.

    If the drill sergeant could swing it, it would be great if he could sue the same way Nick Sandmann, the Covington kid did. With the Washington Post alone he settled with them on a 250 million dollar lawsuit.

    Bankrupt the corrupt corporate media.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/24/washington-post-settles-250m-suit-with-covington-teen-nick-sandmann/

    • Agree: sayless
  28. Twinkie says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    In total, 52 cadets, or more than half of those caught cheating, were athletes, the majority on the football team, USA Today reported.

    In the occasionally recurring “Asians cheat” discussions, I mentioned several times that the most frequent cheaters when I taught in college as a young academic were athletes, sometimes with “deliberate ignorance” from the university administration. It’s one of the reasons my academic career didn’t last long – I wouldn’t stand for the pressure to go easy on them.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  29. gent says:
    @KenH

    It will come out that she is one of his side hoes.

  30. anon215 says:

    I’m sure CNN is working on their retraction piece right now. Any minute now, Twitter will issue “fact check” warnings whenever this story comes up on their platform.

  31. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @Polistra
    , @midtown
  32. El Dato says:
    @gent

    A sting by who of whom for what?

    • Replies: @gent
  33. Abe says:
    @J.Ross

    >comparing this femoid to Pam Grier
    Steve. Steve. No. The closet has ruined your eyes. No.

    I zoomed in and you’re right! However, not unsalvageable with a modest amount of plastic surgery. Here’s the plan- we seed a kickstarter to get Ms. McCallum a nose job and maybe an eye lift, she apologizes to Sgt. McCallum by having a threeway with him and his wife, then moves to LA and has a short career in music videos and as a movie extra before marrying an NBA baller/secret-mama’s boy whose mother and aunts will not hear of him marrying some blonde white gold digger. Win-win-WIN!

    [MORE]

    Pres. Biden: “With Sgt. Pentland’s hot interracial threesome, we can finally begin to heal as a nation…”

  34. L. Guapo says:
    @JimDandy

    Only if “Oscar” is your nickname for PCP..

  35. Curle says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Ever run across someone who didn’t?

    “ have all run across someone who thinks like Ms. McCallum.”

  36. Cindy says:

    About that sensible tweet of hers, no. Just don’t.

    Don’t compliment a black woman’s hair in any way, shape, or form. Don’t even acknowledge that they have hair. I know a sweet girl who told a black girl she loved her new hair-do.
    Black girls says, “Thanks, it’s a wig.”
    White girl says, “I’ll bet that makes it super simple to get ready in the morning.” Nothing but approval. White girl gets dragged into HR for the microaggression.

    Just. Don’t. Mention. Hair.

  37. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    R u autistic ?

    South Carolina. Home of the military type guys since Sumter

    Dont trigger @ISteve by the modern housing and rabid diversity coming to Irvine

  38. @JimDandy

    LOL.

    You should see the trailer for “THEM.”

    Truly amazing. Now that’s Oscar quality!

  39. @Bragadocious

    The Daily Mail commenters are right, of course.

  40. vhrm says:
    @Bragadocious

    I would think Pentland would be a hero. He didn’t call the cops. Isn’t that what BLM wanted?

    BTW, in the UK Daily Mail, a full 90% of the comments are anti-Pentland. They took the side of the psychotic sexual assaulter. They also believe in the sacredness of George Floyd.

    a) Pentland did call the cops (or rather his wife or someone else did) and that’s in the video.

    b) A thing to note about dailymail is that at the top of every comment section it’ll say either
    “The comments below have been moderated in advance.” or
    “The comments below have not been moderated.”

    a thing to further note is that any story that has a racial angle at all is always in the moderated category and the comments that are let through are almost entirely of the woke variety. That’s not reflecting the people’s views, just the censors’.

    On stories where comments aren’t moderated it’s a different mix.

    • Replies: @Firstdown 111
    , @vhrm
  41. Polistra says:
    @Franz

    But what the Potential BLMs are beginning to see is that once their usefulness is over, they’ll join the White Man in the discard pile.

    Is there any evidence of this vision? It’s a bit incredible.

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @Franz
  42. Polistra says:
    @MEH 0910

    The Daily Mail and the New York Post are the only major media outlets that have published his photo, atm.

    The New York Times has this:

    Front plate checks out!

  43. Polistra says:
    @anon

    Whiskey. Why you all “anon” today.

    • Replies: @anon
  44. Alfa158 says:

    Just to clarify, was the victim of the alleged sexual assault also Black? If so then I pity Sgt. Pentland even more. He was getting himself involved in a fight he had no dog in and, was guaranteeing that at least one of the dogs was going to bite him.

  45. tyrone says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    GOOD!,North Carolina needs a succession movement .

  46. Anon[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Guys a fuckin brave citizen. showed great restraint. Possibly didnt call police cause he thought why fuck up this child like persons life, just give him the boot like the old days.

    He couldn’t call the cops, because they might have shot the kid, his being an unarmed Black man.

  47. Anon[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Of the 61 cadets found guilty, 51 have to redo one full year, and two have to redo six months.

    Outrageous. If you cheat while at a United States military academy, you should be permanently expelled from the institution.

  48. Pam Grier? Shadae is about 10 shades darker. Anyone who’s spent as much time around blacks knows how intensely color-conscious they are.

    https://www.vintag.es/2019/10/pam-grier.html

  49. Anon7 says:

    OT: Another instance of the most interesting fact being placed at the end of the article. A former FedEx employee killed members of the Sikh community at the place he used to work.

    About 90% of the workers at the FedEx warehouse near the Indianapolis International Airport are members of the local Sikh community, police said.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theoaklandpress.com/news/nation-world-news/police-fedex-shooter-legally-bought-guns-used-in-shooting/article_97c86afa-a07f-11eb-9b59-cbf359559d0f.amp.html

    Ninety percent Sikh in the middle of Indiana? Or is it India-na?

  50. That of course would mean the neighborhood is not some 100% white bastion of racism, but that Sgt. Pentland chose to live in an integrated one.

    That depends on when Sgt. Pentland and family moved into The Summit. It’s an exurb. There’d have been nothing but sand and pine trees out there 30 years back.

    You (and Paul Kersey) have taught people like me why these exurbs even exist – I used to wonder why people wanted to living in those McMansions with no big trees and nothing but curvy streets full of cul-de-sacs where it takes miles to walk to anywhere, and it’d be big box stores, the Cheesecake Factory, and stuff like that …

    It’s possible that Sgt. Pentland chose to live in a nice, but bland, white exurb, but the integrated neighborhood moved in with him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  51. @Steve Sailer

    No, man, that’s Mr. Airy, North Carolina. It’s on TV, so it’s got to be true!

    Are you telling me that Aunt Bee didn’t solo a Cessna 172 either?!

  52. @Twinkie

    Interesting. I only taught in one D-1 college, and the only star athlete I had was very conscientious and respectful. I still remember the very polite letter he showed me from his coach asking me to let him take a lab on a different day so as to play in a game. Of course I did, because it was the right thing to do. But I did appreciate being asked instead of a demand.

    I knew a guy who had been a TA at LSU when in grad school. The athletic department was a bit more demanding, but his department told him to ignore them.

    • Replies: @Bill
  53. @anon

    It is almost as if hasty judgement, with incomplete evidence, is a bad idea.

    That’s a big problem in this age of ubiquitous on-demand video. The video goes viral right away, before even the few non-lazy news people would have time to find out more info. In general all these “journalists” of today want to do is watch what’s already been seen by everyone and comment about it.

    Our host here is not a normal journalist. Thanks, Steve.

  54. donut says:
    @JimDandy

    It’s already on Netflix .

  55. @Twinkie

    On big college campuses, Div 1 football&basketball stars are pampered like crazy. They can get away with damn near everything. This has been the case for many decades.

    Professors let athletes take tests separately. “Tutors” do their homework. Notetakers go to class for them. If they get into trouble for whatever reason, everything gets smoothed over.

    There was even a time when universities used to supply sexual partners (called “hostesses”) to the athletes, but this has been largely ended in recent years. Read more here.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/be-all-the-beauty-influencer-diversity-activist-you-can-be/#comment-4524451

    Why are they pampered so much?

    Mostly because college alumni (called “boosters”) donate very generously when the universities support their athletic programs. These “boosters” often offer “gifts” (money, cars, etc) directly to the athletes to get them to commit to their university. Nearly 100% of “boosters” are White Men.

    It’s quite remarkable. A bunch of middle-aged White male “boosters” bribing young Black guys to come to their Alma mater.

    I wonder what Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, and Euros would think of our university college sports.

  56. @Achmed E. Newman

    curvy streets full of cul-de-sacs

    Culs-de-sac. Er, culs-de-sacs. No, culs-des-sacs

    Que est-ce que le phoque! DEAD ENDS!!

    why these exurbs even exist

    It’s where those escaping the city meet those escaping the sticks. A kind of cline, or Hajnal Line or what-not. A Hajnal cul-de-sac?

  57. AceDeuce says:

    In 2009, an Afro-Hispanic man was a “person of interest” in the sexual attack on an 11 year old girl in the largely black and Hispanic crime-ridden Kensington neighborhood of Philadelphia. Police had no definitive evidence against him at the time–he lived in the area, and was only wanted for questioning.

    A day after the cops passed his picture around, a group of 12 to 15 local men (black and Hispanic) spotted the man. They caught him and beat him severely. The police, who are always in that area on patrol, rescued the man before he was killed.

    https://www.thedp.com/article/2009/06/vigilantes_get_violent

    “While many are relieved to have Carrasquillo off the streets, there is no excuse for the beating. The mob went beyond simply restraining Carrasquillo before police could intervene, with one participant using a bat while others kicked the suspect.

    Perhaps the most disturbing twist involves Mayor Michael Nutter, who instead of outright condemning the violence, expressed his understanding for the mob’s actions and commended their passion for their community. Furthermore, none of the participants were arrested. Two were given a monetary reward.”

    The Philadelphia police chief had similar thoughts:

    https://www.recordnet.com/article/20090604/A_NEWS/90604007

    Philadelphia’s police commissioner said Thursday he will not pursue criminal charges against a group of angry neighbors who beat a man sought for questioning in the rape of an 11-year-old girl.

    “From what I’ve seen so far, we have one victim and that’s an 11-year-old girl,” Ramsey said in an interview with The Associated Press.

    Before making his decision, Ramsey said, he monitored Carrasquillo’s condition and reviewed surveillance video of the assault. As soon as officers arrived at the scene, he said, the group stopped the beating.

    “These people saw him, he attempted to run and they caught up with him,” Ramsey said. “If the injuries had been severe, maybe we’d have to rethink it.”

    The Philadelphia chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police had offered a $10,000 reward in the rape case.

    Carrasquillo has not been charged in the rape, but Ramsey said investigators have very strong forensic evidence and witness identification placing him at the scene.

    “I think you have to take into account the emotion. I think you have to take into account the severity of the injuries,” Ramsey said, adding that he does not condone vigilante justice. “It’s unfortunate that we didn’t find him first.”

    Surveillance video shows a man being chased by at least three people, one of whom hits him several times with what appears to be a bat or large stick. As they chase the man, a crowd gathers. The video cuts off after a police officer arrives.

    Ramsey said he had to walk a fine line in deciding whether to charge the man’s attackers.

    “There is something called a citizen’s arrest,” Ramsey said. “These are people that aren’t trained. They are holding people for police to arrive.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  58. Brost says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “I wonder what Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, and Euros would think of our university college sports.”

    Had a friend who got a scholarship to one of the State Universities. “Bloody weird” is how he described it.

  59. Twinkie says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    On big college campuses, Div 1

    You don’t have to tell me about it. But it’s not just at “sports-oriented” universities. Even at my Ivy undergrad, the football fraternity was notorious for cheating.

    Mostly because college alumni (called “boosters”) donate very generously when the universities support their athletic programs.

    Yup. Lots of moneyed Ivy alums in financial industry were athletes (some companies prefer athletes in recruitment for their “aggression”) and donate well when their universities spend money on athletics.

    It’s quite remarkable. A bunch of middle-aged White male “boosters” bribing young Black guys to come to their Alma mater.

    That’s very common, of course, at non-Ivies that have athletic scholarships. But at the Ivies, most athletes are white. The football frat at my undergrad was almost exclusively white. I was friends with a couple of those guys and they once offered to share their frat’s test bank with me if I’d write a couple of history papers for them.

    If universities were truly serious about the honor code, they’d get rid of (or at least reduce) athletes and foreign students (the two major pools of cheaters), but they don’t, because both groups matter a lot to the bottom line.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  60. @anonymous

    Waste of ten dollars. Hope that paramedic knows more about emergency medicine than it knows about workplace internet security.

  61. anon[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra

    That’s not Whiskey. That’s Tiny Duck!

  62. @JohnnyWalker123

    I wonder what Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, and Euros would think of our university college sports.

    I’ve tried to explain D1 college sports to numerous non-Americans, both when I studied in the UK, and in my years in Hong Kong.

    The result: almost total incomprehension.

    I think Canadians might be more likely to grok it, but people I’ve described it to, from the UK, HK, and several European countries, simply cannot understand why the USA developed — and maintains — this insane arrangement.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Twinkie
  63. anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    people I’ve described it to, from the UK, HK, and several European countries, simply cannot understand why the USA developed — and maintains — this insane arrangement.

    What do they consider to be insane about it?

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Bill
  64. What do they consider to be insane about it?

    Two things, mainly:

    ***The idea that anyone gets preferential admission to prestige universities, with all expenses paid, because they’re good at something totally non-academic.

    ***The fact that millions of Americans care extremely deeply about college sports (rather than/in addition to pro sports).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  65. Anon[125] • Disclaimer says:

    A big, mostly-maskless neighborhood gathering in the streets with exuberant testifyin’. Sounds like black culture has come to that neighborhood big time. I wonder what the funerals are like?

  66. Curle says:
    @anonymous

    Read “I Am Charlotte Simmons” by Tom Wolfe.

  67. @AceDeuce

    In 1985, an impromptu vigilante mob of Mexicans in East L.A. chased, grabbed, and beat the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez, until the LAPD arrived.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  68. Twinkie says:
    @donut

    That professor is my hero. Too few university administrations back professors such as he.

  69. @The Last Real Calvinist

    In Bertie Wooster stories, Oxford and Cambridge have an annual Boat Night rowing race in London, after which Bertie got arrested for pinching a bobbie’s helmet.

    Hugh Laurie, who played a superlative Bertie, gives the impression he got into Cambridge only because of his rowing prowess.

    So my impression is that rowing in England is a little bit like American college sports.

  70. vhrm says:
    @vhrm

    For example, this story about the bar shooting in Wyoming is currently still not moderated; probably because it started as not a race story before the names of the victims were announced.
    (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9483949/Police-3-dead-2-wounded-shooting-Wisconsin-tavern.html#comments )

    Thus you can see comments like:

    “No description of the suspect, hmmm”

    “Did you catch the description of the criminal? No? That’s a major part of the problem we are having to deal with. The perpetually angry victims problems. Hope it doesn’t spread into your utopian country of Kumbaya.”

    “Although the police don’t have the courage to release his name because they are too PC, local news identified the suspect as DeShawn Mosby. Yes, we already knew.”

    “So they were great guys? Pics of throwing gang signs and one with a gun. Maxine where are you at now? Oh but their lives don’t matter like the 7 yr old girl in Chicago when they are murdered by their own race!?! Such hypocrisy from the left!”

    Those are only lightly cherrypicked. Something like 1/3rd or more of the comments are like that right now. “soon” i suspect The comments will switch over to “moderated” and all these will be removed and be left with only fretting about guns.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  71. @Steve Sailer

    So my impression is that rowing in England is a little bit like American college sports.

    Only a little bit. The boat race is an annual one-off, and it only involves Oxford and Cambridge, although I think there are some similar events involving other UK universities.

    US D1 sports are orders of magnitude bigger and more distorting.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  72. Twinkie says:
    @Steve Sailer

    European and Asian universities also recruit athletes, but it’s more for prestige (e.g. Olympic gold in rowing, Judo world championship, etc.), not for gobs of money, so the recruitment is more subtle and less outlandish (something like soccer is more like in America though). Also their athletes might not (sometimes) be the brightest of the lot, but only in comparison to their highly intelligent European and Asian peers – they don’t have the racial dynamic of the U.S. (read “blacks”).

    Finally, in some European (esp. Eastern European) and Asian (esp. East Asian) countries, athletes are selected already in elementary school (!) and go to special sports middle schools and high schools and even sports universities. Training and competition can be grueling in such institutions. There is no partying and dating attractive coeds. It’s just intense training, training, training, and some academics.

    Based on my body, I was picked for the shooting team and Judo in elementary school. I was tracked for further development and coaching for one of them depending on how I did, but I came to the U.S. in middle school, so I ended up pursuing them here very differently – much more for personal enjoyment and success, not for the glory of the Motherland. But it (you can probably guess which one) also probably helped me stand out and get into the Ivy of my choice.

    The school that really recruited me heavily was Caltech, but its catalog had on its cover two super nerdy guys (one white, the other Asian with unkempt hair, both wearing giant glasses) handling beakers and since I just had that in high school, I said “Nope.” Instead I picked the Ivy with two pretty smiling girls throwing frisbee on its catalog cover.

    Can’t say it didn’t hit the spot since I found my wife there (she was an internationally competitive athlete at the said school). 😉

    Anyway, during my competitive years, I befriended some of the Asian and European competitors (who usually beat me silly), but I was rather glad I didn’t have to undergo the development they did – much of it sounded pretty brutal.

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  73. Twinkie says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    in my years in Hong Kong.

    Aren’t some rich Hong Kongers putting their kids in equestrian sports to help them get into top ranked Western universities lately?

  74. gent says:
    @El Dato

    A sting by the two negroes involved in the story in order to drum up a racial grievance narrative. The male goes into the area and causes a low level disturbance, the female records it and drums up the controversy when anyone tries to stop them.

  75. midtown says:
    @MEH 0910

    Uh oh! It must be tough trying to keep the Narrative going, what with reality interfering all the time.

  76. @Steve Sailer

    Laurie was an excellent oarsman and his father won a Olympic gold medal in 1948 in rowing, however Laurie is a bit of a polymath and his musical skills would have also been a factor.

    Laurie sings and plays the piano, guitar, drums, harmonica, and saxophone. His two blues albums are well worth buying, IMO.

  77. @The Last Real Calvinist

    There are now two boat races between Oxford and Cambridge each year. One of them is only for oars who identify as female.

  78. Bill says:
    @Nikolai Vladivostok

    Yes, freedom of speech is a really bad idea.

  79. Bill says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Same. All (four? five?) the popular-sport athletes I taught were like that. I heard colleagues make complaints along the lines of Twinkie’s, but academics are habitual liars, so I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  80. Bill says:
    @anonymous

    What are universities for? How do bigtime basketball and football contribute to those things?

  81. Jiminy says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    With rugby league here in oz, there are 16 professional teams in the competition. They have A grade teams and B grade ones as well I think. And junior teams also. Teams are given a salary cap, so they can only spend so much on their players. Players receive money for education as well if they so wish. There’s also sponsorship money for the players. Sometimes there are still players who actually work outside of football, fitting it in with their training. There are certain high schools that cater to and support footballers. There are schoolboy competitions from across the state, and I think scouts look for potential future football stars at these games. Then a professional football club takes on these young guns and trains and develops them, nurturing them. Some study or work or have apprenticeships. By their early twenties they start playing, and if they’re lucky they might have twelve or so years of football ahead of them.
    I think some of the uni’s offer sporting students scholarships to help with their studies, figures like $2000 to $15000 worth of accomodation or off the cost of fees. But it’s nothing like what goes on in the US. ( anyone feel free to correct me on what I have written).

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  82. @Bill

    I only had one star athlete who gave me problems.

    This was a small D-3 school, so I had LOTS of athletes in my classes, esp. freshman classes.

    There was a student who had originally been a D-1 scholarship football player. For whatever reason, he transferred to a very small D-3 school, and was naturally the big star of the football team. I knew many of the other players hated him, but I wasn’t going to get involved in team squabbles.

    This particular student flunked my class, and tried numerous times to get me to change the grade so he could compete the next fall. I didn’t change the grade. He had way too many chances, and really took advantage of them. For example, he had an Incomplete, so he took the final a few months later, and I used the same final for him. I knew he had a copy of the final to study off of, and he still flunked.

    I still remember going to the registrar’s office. The Registrar was the wife of my dept. chairman, and I knew they were HUGE football fans.

    The interaction in the registrar’s office was priceless:

    Registrar: “Hi Paleo, what are you up to?”
    Me: “I am destroying next football season”
    Registrar: (Confused look)
    Me: (Hands the grade to the Registrar)
    Registrar: (Look of complete shock) “Wow! You really are!”

    Interesting thing — not one football coach nor anyone from the athletic department talked to me at all about this. D-3 coaches generally don’t bother professors. Nor did the Registrar try to talk me out of it.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  83. AceDeuce says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Indeed they did-the cops rescued him from getting killed.

    I believe there was a black “pillowcase rapist” back then, who raped mostly White women, but got caught plying his trade in the ghetto on a black woman, whose screams alerted neighbors. He too was beaten within an inch of his life before the po po saved him.

  84. @Twinkie

    It’s possible. I don’t know enough people with that kind of money to be able to identify a trend.

    I do know fencing is catching on here, though, as I think we’ve discussed previously. Even in my middle-class neighborhood there’s an indoor golf + fencing place that’s just opened.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  85. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    I assume this is based on the ancient Greek idea that young men destined for leadership should be as proficient in sports and music as in academics. You weren’t allowed to focus on one and neglect the others. They were equally important.

    Music (especially communal singing) also used to be a big part of the American college experience, but that seems to have disappeared.

    College sports persists but has been outsourced to specialists. The average student has no involvement beyond cheering from the bleachers.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  86. Franz says:
    @Polistra

    Is there any evidence of this vision? It’s a bit incredible.

    Since Ferguson, many have gotten aware of a Third Party behind all this and it seems to be growing.

    Start with this fellow because he got it up in 2017, not the earliest but it’s at least still up:

  87. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    I assume this is based on the ancient Greek idea that young men destined for leadership should be as proficient in sports and music as in academics. You weren’t allowed to focus on one and neglect the others. They were equally important.

    In the old days, sportsmen were definitionally gentlemen.

    Music (especially communal singing) also used to be a big part of the American college experience, but that seems to have disappeared.

    I think it was Allan Bloom who wrote that his university students knew more about classical music than he until a certain point in his career as a professor, after which a clear change occurred and his new cohorts of students knew less and less than he each passing year.

    And now Cornel West is bemoaning the death of Classics in academia: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/19/cornel-west-howard-classics/

    Seems like the dying of a once great civilization, to which I gave fealty.

    • Replies: @anon
  88. anon[932] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    And now Cornel West is bemoaning the death of Classics in academia:

    Somewhat like an church arsonist bemoaning the burning of a library.

  89. vhrm says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Not that you had a particular duty to do so, but, esp. knowing the deal with this guy did you contact the coach or AD or anything to see if they could motivate him or get him some help or something?

    Do you know if the guy shaped up later or if he just dropped out?

    The story as told seems like a fairly bleak outcome both for him and for the school…

  90. ic1000 says:

    The circus has moved on, but For The Record, here is a link to an article elsewhere at Unz. The author chronicles today’s developments in the Two Minutes Hate Hoax that features Sgt. Pentland as its unwilling star.

    Black “Victim” of Sgt. Jonathan Pentland Identified, Had Open Warrant for Violent Felony Case, by Eric Striker.

    • Thanks: vhrm
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