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From the Los Angeles Times:
Is Oscar nominee Antonio Banderas a ‘person of color’? It’s complicated
No, it’s not. The answer, by the way, is “No.” The actor is a white man born and raised in Europe.
By DANIEL HERNANDEZ STAFF WRITER
FEB. 7, 2020 9:53 AMIf Antonio Banderas wins the Academy Award on Sunday for his leading performance in the Pedro Almodóvar film “Pain and Glory,” would it count as a win for people of color?
The question might have sounded puzzling even a year ago, but with ever-explosive debates on identity and authorship in popular culture (see the publishing industry scandal over “American Dirt”), the question of Banderas’ proper demographic designation became relevant with the arrival of the 2020 Academy Awards.
When the nominations were announced on Jan. 13, some news outlets initially declared that Banderas was a “person of color” along with lead actress and original song nominee Cynthia Erivo (“Harriet”), perhaps in search of a silver lining to the dismally monochrome slate of acting nominations. Banderas’ demo was called into question almost immediately by those who pointed out that the actor was born and raised in Spain.
(see the publishing industry scandal over “American Dirt”)
Does that really rate being called a scandal? More of a brouhaha.
Journalists are getting more illiterate by the day.
“Antonio Banderas Calls for a Latino Studio to ‘Steal Hollywood From Hollywood’”
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-for-a-latino-studio-to-steal-hollywood-from-hollywood-1201543162/
1945 La morena de mi copla Fernando A Rivero
1945 La perla Emilio Fernández With Pedro Armendáriz
1945 Pervertida José Díaz Morales
1946 El ahijado de la muerte Norman Foster
1946 The Fugitive John Ford
1946 Hay muertos que no hacen ruido Humberto Gómez Landero
1946 La insaciable Juan J. Ortega
1946 La mujer de todos Julio Bracho
1946 No te cases con mi mujer Fernando Cortes
1946 La otra Roberto Gavaldón
1946 Si me han de matar mañana Miguel Zacarías
1947 Fly Away, Young Man! Miguel M. Delgado
1947 Adventures of Casanova Roberto Gavaldon
1947 La diosa arrodillada Roberto Gavaldon
1947 Mystery in Mexico Robert Wise
1948 Allá en el rancho grande Fernando de Fuentes
1948 Maclovia Emilio Fernández
1948 Tarzan and the Mermaids Robert Florey
1948 Si Adelita se fuera con otro Chano Urueta
1949 Puerta….joven Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1950 El bombero atómico Miguel M. Delgado
1950 Doña perfecta Alejandro Galindo With María Félix
1951 Baile, mi rey Roberto Rodríguez
1951 El derecho de nacer Zacarías Gómez Urquiza
1951 Mama nos quita los novios Roberto Rodríguez
1951 Mátenme porque me muero Ismael Rodríguez
1951 Que te ha dado esa mujer Ismael Rodríguez
1951 A.T.M A Toda Maquina Ismael Rodriguez
1952 El bello durmiente Gilberto Martínez Solares
1952 Dos tipos de cuidado Ismael Rodríguez
1952 Pepe el Toro Ismael Rodríguez
1952 Por ellas aunque mal paguen Juan Bustillo Oro
1953 Las cariñosas Fernando Cortes
1956 Corazón salvaje Juan J Ortega
1956 A Woman's Devotion Paul Henreid
1956 El bolero de Raquel Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1956 The Brave One Irving Harper
1956 Cielito lindo Miguel M. Delgado
1958 Ay... Calypso no te rajes! Jaime Salvador
1960 Amorcito corazón Rogelio A. González
1960 El analfabeto Miguel M. Delgado
1962 El ángel exterminador Luis Buñuel
1967 El agente 00-sexy Fernando Cortes
1968 Corazón salvaje Tito Davison
1968 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid George Roy Hill
1968 Cuando los hijos se van Julián Soler
1968 Robinson Crusoe René Cardona Jr.
1969 The Blue Soldier Ralph Nelson
1971 The Assassination of Trotsky Joseph Losey
1971 Big Jake Georges Sherman
1971 Boulevard Du Rhum Robert Enrico
1971 Buck and the Preacher Sidney Poitier
1972 El castillo de la pureza Arturo Ripstein
1973 Shootout in a One-Dog Town Burt Kennedy
1973 Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia Sam Peckkinpah
1973 Calzonzin inspector Alfonso Arau
1974 Antonio and the Mayor Jerry Torpe
1974 Bellas de noche Miguel M. Delgado
1975 El apando Felipe Cazals
1975 The Devil's Rain Robert Fuest
1977 Bloody Marlene Alberto Mariscal
1978 Las cariñosas Rafael Portillo
1978 The Eagle's Wing Anthony Harvey
1979 Cacciatore di squali Enzo Castellari
1979 Le Scarabee d’Or Maurice Ronet
1980 Campeche: Un estado de ánimo Luis Mandoki
1981 El barrendero Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1981 Caveman Carl Gottlieb
1981 Chanfle II Chespirito
1981 La Chevre Francis Veber
1982 Amityville II: The Possession Damiano Damiani
1982 Sorceress Jack Hill
1982 The Honorary Consul John Mackenzie
1983 Under the Volcano John Huston
1983 Choices of the Heart Joseph D Sargent
1984 Conan the Destroyer Richard Fleischer With Arnold Schwarzenegger
1984 Dune David Lynch
1984 Rambo: First Blood Part II Georges P. Cosmatos
1986 Chiquita pero picosa Juan Pastor With Verónica Castro
1986 Romancing the Stone Robert Zemeckis
1988 Licence to Kill John Glen 16th James Bond film
1989 Total Recall Paul Verhoeven with Arnold Schwarzenegger
1989 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids Joe Johnston with Rick Moranis
1989 The Hunt for Red October John McTiernan 1st Jack Ryan film
1989 La tarea Jaime Humberto Hermosillo
1990 Cabeza de Vaca Nicolás Echeverría
1990 Ciudad de ciegos Alberto Cortes
1990 Danzón María Novaro
1990 La mujer de benjamín Carlos Carrera
1990 Sólo con tu pareja Alfonso Cuarón
1991 El bulto Gabriel Retes
1991 Como agua para chocolate Alfonso Arau
1991 La invención de Cronos Guillermo del Toro
1991 Miroslava Alejandro Pelayo
1991 Modelo antiguo Raúl Araiza With Silvia Pinal
1992 Break of Dawn Isaac Artenstein
1993 Bienvenido /welcome Gabriel Retes
1993 Hasta morir Fernando Saldaña
1995 Avalon Lorenzo Hagerman
1995 Cilantro y perejil Rafael Montero
1995 De tripas corazón Antonio Urrutia
1996 100 años de cine mexicano Carlos Carrera
1996 Romeo + Juliet Baz Luhrmann With Leonardo DiCaprio
1996 Santitos Alejandro Springall
1997 De noche vienes, Esmeralda Jaime Humberto Hermosillo
1998 Bajo California, el limite del tiempo Carlos Bolado
1998 Sexo, pudor y lágrimas Antonio Serrano Box-office record
1998 The Mask of Zorro Martin Campbell
1999 Amores perros Alejandro González Iñárritu Best Foreign Film Oscar nomination
1999 El coronel no tiene quien le escriba Arturo Ripstein
1999 Crónica de un desayuno Benjamín Cann
1999 La ley de Herodes Luis Estrada
1999 Todo el poder Fernando Sariñana
2000 Atlético San Pancho Gustavo Loza
2000 De la calle Gerardo Tort
2000 Demasiado amor Ernesto Rimoch
2000 Fidel David Atwood
2000 Japón Carlos Reygadas
2000 Perfume de violetas Maryse Sistach
2000 Original Sin With Antonio Banderas & Angelina Jolie
2001 Asesino en serio Antonio Urrutia
2001 Frida Julie Taymor With Salma Hayek
2001 La habitación azul Walter Doehner
2001 El tigre de Santa Julia Alejandro Gamboa
2001 Un secreto de Esperanza Leopoldo Laborde
2001 Sin ton ni Sonia Carlos Sama
2001 Vivir mata Nicolás Echeverría
2002 Amar te duele Fernando Sariñana
2002 El crimen del Padre Amaro Carlos Carrera Best Foreign Film Oscar nomination
2002 La hija del caníbal Antonio Serrano
2003 Ladies Night Gabriela Tagliavini
2003 Nicotina Hugo Rodríguez With Diego Luna
2003 Sobreviviente Paul Michael
2004 The Matador With Pierce Brosnan
2004 The Librarian: Quest for the Spear With Noah Wyle
2004 Bandidas With Salma Hayek and Penélope Cruz
2004 Man on Fire Tony Scott With Denzel Washington
2006 Resident Evil: Extinction Russell Mulcahy With Milla JovovichThere are other Mexican studios too.
It's amusing to see him play up his Hispanic side for attention and Oscar votes now that its chic to do so. None of it is serious from him.
Pierce Brosnan has played both sides of his life's coin well. He was born and raised his first 12 years in Ireland, but then moved to London for much of his teenage schooling and training. When it's convenient for him, he'll play up being Irish and affect a slight brough, but when he needs some Englishness (such as when he was in the running and playing and doing interviews for James Bond) he's all English business.
In other words anglos are as uncomfortable with hispanic culture as vice versa.
On a related note, I’ve always wondered if Ricardo Montalbán had visible Indio in him or not.
There was a time when Mexicans had class. And Americans, too.
Look, I know his surname doesn’t end in a vowel, but couldn’t the Reich Ministry of the Interior bend the Nuremberg Race Laws just a little and classify him as a PoC- a least just for the Oscars?
Let’s put in an appeal to Heinrich Himmler on behalf of Antonio!
Alternatively, if the apartheid authorities could make some foreign PoCs on their visit to South Africa honorary whites when it suited (for diplomatic, economic reasons etc), then why can’t, here in Juan Crow America, The Academy designate white man Banderas brown?
I mean, he’s pretty swarthy. I bet he snap-registers as “diverse” to a lot of white Americans, especially in places without much Latin ancestry.
He wouldn’t register as diverse anywhere in the U.S outside of perhaps Minnesota.
Lots of Southern guys look like him. Imagine him in a baseball cap and t shirt.
He looks less “ethnic” than a lot of Greeks/South Italians/Jews.
Spaniards seem to be the least ethnic-looking Southern Europeans.
Southern Spain. The Moors were there. As Dennis Hopper said, “Andalucian, huh?”
…dismally monochrome…
…when whitey wins too many* awards…
…wonderfully diverse…
…when Beyonce wins all the awards.
*’too many’ = in 2020, any number greater than zero
Apparently Jordan Peterson needed emergency medical treatment due to his abuse of benzos:
His best role was as an Arab in the movie version of Eaters of the Dead.
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-for-a-latino-studio-to-steal-hollywood-from-hollywood-1201543162/
Don’t they all, these days?
They’ve had the means to do this for years. And it could be built quietly, not blurted out at a press conference.
He once told Johnny Carson the greatest Latin lover he’d ever known was his father, who was married to his mother for 55 years.
There was a time when Mexicans had class. And Americans, too.
His most famous roles were Zorro and an Arab guy in a viking movie. I don’t think he’s ever been cast as an ordinary white guy. Of course the accent doesn’t help.
I think the average flyover prole of Germanic/British stock who doesn’t know any better just thinks of him as some kind of Mexican.
I tend to think of him as a member of the wealthy elite who whines about how oppressed he is.
This is an '80s dark comedy by Pedro Almodovar and may even have been Banderas's first movie role.
Does that really rate being called a scandal? More of a brouhaha.
“Scandal” is 100% the wrong word, as it implies somthing was dishonest or unlawful. Whining that an Anglo lady wrote a fictional story about a Mexican lady may be scandalously stupid, but it’s no “scandal.”
Journalists are getting more illiterate by the day.
Not too shabby as Che Guevara in Evita. Oh, what a circus!
He’s ‘swhite’ or swarthy-white.
He tans.
He wouldn’t register as diverse anywhere in the U.S outside of perhaps Minnesota.
Lots of Southern guys look like him. Imagine him in a baseball cap and t shirt.
He looks less “ethnic” than a lot of Greeks/South Italians/Jews.
Spaniards seem to be the least ethnic-looking Southern Europeans.
Romanians who are the blondest Romance language speaking group consider themselves southern European but other southern European don't want anything to do with them.
I found it odd how Romanian women like to Anglicize their names even if the modification is minor. For eg Nicoletta becomes Nicole and Violeta is Violet.
Technically, White is a color. Perhaps this ought to be more considered and vocalized in the ever growing debate over Who? Whom? And the Narrative.
I'm fairly Nordic so I guess I classify as white. Although I'm more pink than white, with red splotches of rosacea. A dermatologist once told me rosacea is an Irish woman's disease. I think he was slyly insulting my moobs.
I think the average flyover prole of Germanic/British stock who doesn't know any better just thinks of him as some kind of Mexican.
You rang?
Next up for the cultural critics, “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”
POC angels that is.
It actually is complicated, because even though he certainly has no Amerindian ancestry, he almost certanly has non-wite ancestry. He is from southern spain, and by his looks and the history of that region, it is almost certain that he has Berber/Moor ancestry.
Many people don’t know this, but there are actually 4 very different types of Spaniard.
1. Southern Spaniard –> mediterranean mixed with Arab.
2. Northern Spaniard –> mostly meds mixed with Celt.
3. Catalonians –> Germanic/Frankish
4. Aristocracy –> Germanic/Visigothic(“sangre azur””Godos”)
This is why a swarthy man and a man with white skin and green eyes are both plausible as Spaniards.
This may sound horrible and racist, but many attribute the First World aspects of Spain to it’s Celtic and especially Germanic poipulations. Northern Spaniards and Catalonians are a lot pastier than southern Spaniards, and the incidence of blue and green eyes and red hair is actually higher among them than among the French.
(and just to make it clear: Spain is a First World nation by any metric there is. I don’t subscribe to the theory that some Spaniards are better)
Most importantly, the North African influence dates back to the Roman Empire or even earlier than that. There was no mass immigration during the Arab conquest, but very limited immigration from a few thousand berber warriors and a handful Arab aristocrats. Arab genetics is close to non-existent in Morrocco, let alone Spain.
Spain was ruled by a barbarian Germanic tribe called the Vandals. The Arabs who took over ushered a golden age of arts, sciences and architecture. Look I'm no leftist Muslim apologist and certainly "dark age" Europe is much underestimated and mocked unfairly. But let's state facts and give credit where it's due.
Galicia and Asturias - cliche is bagpipes, cider, rain, though I heard a bit of Colombian music too when I was last there. Love the place, but then I'm not keen on too much sun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUA3sdyZ_Pw
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2017/05/genetically-southern-european.html
Banderas is White like a black African is White.
He’s a swarthy wog – a greasy garlic eating lump of sweaty meat from God knows where, but probably Barcelona, which has the highest per-capita of retarded shitheads in the world.
It’s not that simple. If Banderas can prove his family was oppressed by Franco, he becomes a honorary POC.
I came here thinking this would be about Ukrainian Nazis.
See, this is where he is wrong. The villain should have had a redneck accent and been named Johnny Ray Scruggs.
I think the average flyover prole of Germanic/British stock who doesn't know any better just thinks of him as some kind of Mexican.
“…just thinks of him as some kind of Mexican.”
I tend to think of him as a member of the wealthy elite who whines about how oppressed he is.
To the best of my knowledge, they have never tried to count Sergio Garcia and Rafa Nadal as sports stars of color. Does something magical happen when Spainards move to the United States that makes them count as POCs?
Actually, the North African admixture is quite small and only reaching as high as 10% in western and southern Spain.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08272-w
POC or not, he’s “Hispanic”, so in America his kids would get affirmative action, right? And that would be even if the mother(s) were lily white.
(I don’t know if he has kids and it’s not worth my while to find that out about this bum.)
My kids had a super-smart friend in high school whose family came here from South America. The kid’s name is stereotypically Hispanic, but the kid looks like he could be a native Swede, so probably zero Amerindian ancestry. The kid is a math major at MIT now. He might have gotten into MIT even without the AA, but I’ll bet AA made it a sure thing. He’s doing well at MIT, but MIT does accept POCs who can’t possibly hack it there in the hard majors and have to do some sort of MIT-for-Dummies major like Urban Planning.
A former colleague at work is partly Jewish, with some Jewish ancestors who got kicked out of Spain back around 1492. That was enough for him to get himself classified as “Hispanic”.
The whole AA thing is fundamentally stupid, in my opinion, but one particularly stupid angle is how anyone with a connection to a place where they speak Spanish gets to be “Hispanic”.
AA was supposed to benefit blacks, not every Pancho who sneaks across the border or Raj who comes over on a H1-B and stays forever.
But it is a very lucrative racket for a lot of people.
https://twitter.com/PaulSkallas/status/1225987483420299265
Sure, that’s fair. Peterson took physician-prescribed Clonazepam for part of last year to counter depression while his wife was fighting cancer, and checked himself into a New York rehab clinic to get medical help for the side effects that some people have when weaning themselves off the drug.
But sure, party hearty druggie Russia collusion, close enough.
Troll.
If a doctor has a patient on Clonazepam, for whatever reason, they would normally slowly taper the drug off at the end of treatment to prevent seizures. Inpatient care is not needed for this, and it seems very unlikely that a patient would "check himself into" a rehab clinic for this reason. Clonazepam is not recommended for long-term treatment as addiction may occur. Since antidepressant medication is usually prescribed for at least 6 months, that is another reason not to use Clonazepam for depression.
If the quoted section above is true and correct, he might have a negligence case against his physician, but most likely there are important details missing, and all may not be as it seems.
When it comes to reports of celebrities "checking into" rehab clinics, the truth is hardly ever told to the public, and there is no reason why it should be, due to medical confidentiality rules, but stuff made up by press agents often gives an inaccurate impression from which people draw further false conclusions.
An extreme example would be President Trump's published physical exam reports and cover letter, which clearly were not written by a medical doctor.
Spaniards, however, feel a very close bond with the Spanish speaking world, though not so close as to want their migrants overmuch.
I live in central Spain. The answer is not so simple. In terms of skin color, an Andalusian like Banderas is much closer to a Turk or an Algerian than to a southern Frenchman.
This is not due to the moorish invasion as most people think., which had very little genetic impact.
It’s simply because the average UV index in central Spain is much higer than that found anywhere else in Europe, and significantly higher even than in Italy or the Balkans.
People from Istanbul tend to be lighter skinned than people from Malaga, as one would expect from looking at the uv index.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08272-w
It’s quite clear that you’ve never been to Spain. North African influence does increase a little but peaks at around 14% in southern Spain and becomes less prevalent in central/northern Spain. It impossible to notice any overt differences when you look at a group of northern vs southern Spanish. There are more gypsys in Andalusia but they tend to live in segregated areas.
Most importantly, the North African influence dates back to the Roman Empire or even earlier than that. There was no mass immigration during the Arab conquest, but very limited immigration from a few thousand berber warriors and a handful Arab aristocrats. Arab genetics is close to non-existent in Morrocco, let alone Spain.
The fact that only a few thousand Moor warriors mated with Spanish women doesen't matter, because of the enormous male reproductive capacity.
Face it: southern Spaniards are part Arbab. Don't try to argue with this just because you viscerally dislike that fact. Oh well, you still have Catalonia!
Modern Inferiority Complex.
In modern times, Spain and Ireland were regarded as backward, superstitious, culturally reactionary, dull and boring, and stuffy compared to vibrant centers of cosmopolitanism. And this repressive backwardness came to be associated with the Catholic Church. Ireland was more leftist in politics than Franco-ist Spain, but both were deemed culturally reactionary, the backwaters of Europe.
So, when they had their chance at cultural liberalism, they tried to compensate for their backwardness with extreme lurch toward cosmopolitanism, individualism, modernity, and decadence.
The result has been disastrous for both nations. They've taken to abortion, globo-homo, and diversity even more than other European nations.
This is all very sad because the Spanish and Irish had nothing to feel inferior about. Sure, other Western nations made more money and gained more power, but they were not culturally better with their soulless modernity.
Banderas was born in Andalusia, in southern Spain, which was ruled by the Arabs for 700 years, so it is not out of the question that he may have some remote Arab ancestry (and his skin is indeed swarthier than the average Spaniard). Yet, for all intents and purposes, as a Spaniard, he is white, with zero Black or Amerindian ancestry.
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-for-a-latino-studio-to-steal-hollywood-from-hollywood-1201543162/
Well, Banderas is looking for lucrative employment opportunities for himself, but the fact is that there is already a massive industry making movies and soap operas for the Spanish speaking market that is largely hidden to non Spanish speakers in the US.
For example Estudios Churubusco in Mexico City.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estudios_Churubusco
Here is a brief list of some of their movies:
Year filmed Film Director Note
1945 La morena de mi copla Fernando A Rivero
1945 La perla Emilio Fernández With Pedro Armendáriz
1945 Pervertida José Díaz Morales
1946 El ahijado de la muerte Norman Foster
1946 The Fugitive John Ford
1946 Hay muertos que no hacen ruido Humberto Gómez Landero
1946 La insaciable Juan J. Ortega
1946 La mujer de todos Julio Bracho
1946 No te cases con mi mujer Fernando Cortes
1946 La otra Roberto Gavaldón
1946 Si me han de matar mañana Miguel Zacarías
1947 Fly Away, Young Man! Miguel M. Delgado
1947 Adventures of Casanova Roberto Gavaldon
1947 La diosa arrodillada Roberto Gavaldon
1947 Mystery in Mexico Robert Wise
1948 Allá en el rancho grande Fernando de Fuentes
1948 Maclovia Emilio Fernández
1948 Tarzan and the Mermaids Robert Florey
1948 Si Adelita se fuera con otro Chano Urueta
1949 Puerta….joven Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1950 El bombero atómico Miguel M. Delgado
1950 Doña perfecta Alejandro Galindo With María Félix
1951 Baile, mi rey Roberto Rodríguez
1951 El derecho de nacer Zacarías Gómez Urquiza
1951 Mama nos quita los novios Roberto Rodríguez
1951 Mátenme porque me muero Ismael Rodríguez
1951 Que te ha dado esa mujer Ismael Rodríguez
1951 A.T.M A Toda Maquina Ismael Rodriguez
1952 El bello durmiente Gilberto Martínez Solares
1952 Dos tipos de cuidado Ismael Rodríguez
1952 Pepe el Toro Ismael Rodríguez
1952 Por ellas aunque mal paguen Juan Bustillo Oro
1953 Las cariñosas Fernando Cortes
1956 Corazón salvaje Juan J Ortega
1956 A Woman’s Devotion Paul Henreid
1956 El bolero de Raquel Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1956 The Brave One Irving Harper
1956 Cielito lindo Miguel M. Delgado
1958 Ay… Calypso no te rajes! Jaime Salvador
1960 Amorcito corazón Rogelio A. González
1960 El analfabeto Miguel M. Delgado
1962 El ángel exterminador Luis Buñuel
1967 El agente 00-sexy Fernando Cortes
1968 Corazón salvaje Tito Davison
1968 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid George Roy Hill
1968 Cuando los hijos se van Julián Soler
1968 Robinson Crusoe René Cardona Jr.
1969 The Blue Soldier Ralph Nelson
1971 The Assassination of Trotsky Joseph Losey
1971 Big Jake Georges Sherman
1971 Boulevard Du Rhum Robert Enrico
1971 Buck and the Preacher Sidney Poitier
1972 El castillo de la pureza Arturo Ripstein
1973 Shootout in a One-Dog Town Burt Kennedy
1973 Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia Sam Peckkinpah
1973 Calzonzin inspector Alfonso Arau
1974 Antonio and the Mayor Jerry Torpe
1974 Bellas de noche Miguel M. Delgado
1975 El apando Felipe Cazals
1975 The Devil’s Rain Robert Fuest
1977 Bloody Marlene Alberto Mariscal
1978 Las cariñosas Rafael Portillo
1978 The Eagle’s Wing Anthony Harvey
1979 Cacciatore di squali Enzo Castellari
1979 Le Scarabee d’Or Maurice Ronet
1980 Campeche: Un estado de ánimo Luis Mandoki
1981 El barrendero Miguel M. Delgado With Cantinflas
1981 Caveman Carl Gottlieb
1981 Chanfle II Chespirito
1981 La Chevre Francis Veber
1982 Amityville II: The Possession Damiano Damiani
1982 Sorceress Jack Hill
1982 The Honorary Consul John Mackenzie
1983 Under the Volcano John Huston
1983 Choices of the Heart Joseph D Sargent
1984 Conan the Destroyer Richard Fleischer With Arnold Schwarzenegger
1984 Dune David Lynch
1984 Rambo: First Blood Part II Georges P. Cosmatos
1986 Chiquita pero picosa Juan Pastor With Verónica Castro
1986 Romancing the Stone Robert Zemeckis
1988 Licence to Kill John Glen 16th James Bond film
1989 Total Recall Paul Verhoeven with Arnold Schwarzenegger
1989 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids Joe Johnston with Rick Moranis
1989 The Hunt for Red October John McTiernan 1st Jack Ryan film
1989 La tarea Jaime Humberto Hermosillo
1990 Cabeza de Vaca Nicolás Echeverría
1990 Ciudad de ciegos Alberto Cortes
1990 Danzón María Novaro
1990 La mujer de benjamín Carlos Carrera
1990 Sólo con tu pareja Alfonso Cuarón
1991 El bulto Gabriel Retes
1991 Como agua para chocolate Alfonso Arau
1991 La invención de Cronos Guillermo del Toro
1991 Miroslava Alejandro Pelayo
1991 Modelo antiguo Raúl Araiza With Silvia Pinal
1992 Break of Dawn Isaac Artenstein
1993 Bienvenido /welcome Gabriel Retes
1993 Hasta morir Fernando Saldaña
1995 Avalon Lorenzo Hagerman
1995 Cilantro y perejil Rafael Montero
1995 De tripas corazón Antonio Urrutia
1996 100 años de cine mexicano Carlos Carrera
1996 Romeo + Juliet Baz Luhrmann With Leonardo DiCaprio
1996 Santitos Alejandro Springall
1997 De noche vienes, Esmeralda Jaime Humberto Hermosillo
1998 Bajo California, el limite del tiempo Carlos Bolado
1998 Sexo, pudor y lágrimas Antonio Serrano Box-office record
1998 The Mask of Zorro Martin Campbell
1999 Amores perros Alejandro González Iñárritu Best Foreign Film Oscar nomination
1999 El coronel no tiene quien le escriba Arturo Ripstein
1999 Crónica de un desayuno Benjamín Cann
1999 La ley de Herodes Luis Estrada
1999 Todo el poder Fernando Sariñana
2000 Atlético San Pancho Gustavo Loza
2000 De la calle Gerardo Tort
2000 Demasiado amor Ernesto Rimoch
2000 Fidel David Atwood
2000 Japón Carlos Reygadas
2000 Perfume de violetas Maryse Sistach
2000 Original Sin With Antonio Banderas & Angelina Jolie
2001 Asesino en serio Antonio Urrutia
2001 Frida Julie Taymor With Salma Hayek
2001 La habitación azul Walter Doehner
2001 El tigre de Santa Julia Alejandro Gamboa
2001 Un secreto de Esperanza Leopoldo Laborde
2001 Sin ton ni Sonia Carlos Sama
2001 Vivir mata Nicolás Echeverría
2002 Amar te duele Fernando Sariñana
2002 El crimen del Padre Amaro Carlos Carrera Best Foreign Film Oscar nomination
2002 La hija del caníbal Antonio Serrano
2003 Ladies Night Gabriela Tagliavini
2003 Nicotina Hugo Rodríguez With Diego Luna
2003 Sobreviviente Paul Michael
2004 The Matador With Pierce Brosnan
2004 The Librarian: Quest for the Spear With Noah Wyle
2004 Bandidas With Salma Hayek and Penélope Cruz
2004 Man on Fire Tony Scott With Denzel Washington
2006 Resident Evil: Extinction Russell Mulcahy With Milla Jovovich
There are other Mexican studios too.
Here’s an old interview of Antonio Banderas on Spanish TV. You be the judge.
only in america people will for a second think that a spanish guy from spain with 100% spanish ancestry (at least in the last 500 years) is a “minority” member.
it’s the inverse one percent rule, right? make everybody non-white, so they all can hate whites together. even if they’re white
No, he didn’t–both his parents were Spanish immigrants to Mexico–Castilian, no less (i.e, the “blue-bloods” of Spain). Yet I recall the morons at Tor.com claiming that Montalban was a “person of color” and that allowing person of pallor Benedict Cumberbatch to take over Montalban’s old Khan role was therefore “whitewashing” (of course, if they’d had a real Middle Easterner play the new Khan, then the same people would have been screaming about the problematic implications a POC as a psychotic terrorist).
Montalban played the character twice - once in the late-'60s TV show and again in the early-'80s movie.
In 1967, they put brown makeup on Montalban to make him look darker. That's right - brownface:
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The character was identified as Indian:One of the characters even painted a portrait of Khan in full Sikh garb:
https://americanturban.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/khannooniensinghpainting.jpg
But by 1982, Khan had suffered a severe bout of vitiligo:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N40yZHV0GU4/UV28Dhyc-RI/AAAAAAAABwU/V_8N8y40q_E/s1600/khan.jpg
https://film5000.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/review/image/91/Wrath_of_Kahn-MAIN.jpg
Most of his followers (including his son, played by Judson Scott, at the lower right) looked like Vikings.
Incidentally, Star Trek Into Darkness is a terrible movie. Not because Benedict Cumberbatch is pasty, but because J.J. Abrams is a soulless hack who churns out soft-reboot melanges of regurgitated bullshit.
He wouldn’t register as diverse anywhere in the U.S outside of perhaps Minnesota.
Lots of Southern guys look like him. Imagine him in a baseball cap and t shirt.
He looks less “ethnic” than a lot of Greeks/South Italians/Jews.
Spaniards seem to be the least ethnic-looking Southern Europeans.
Two southern European peoples who don’t look typically southern European are Spaniards and Greeks. A lot of Greeks actually look more Slavic. There were a ton of blonde and pale Spaniards in Barcelona anyway. I was quite surprised. However Spaniards and the Portuguese are rather short compared to other southern Europeans. Never mind the north.
Romanians who are the blondest Romance language speaking group consider themselves southern European but other southern European don’t want anything to do with them.
I found it odd how Romanian women like to Anglicize their names even if the modification is minor. For eg Nicoletta becomes Nicole and Violeta is Violet.
Black (or Bad) Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gave Willingly.
Black brown red orange yellow green blue violet gray white.
He was oblivious as well to the African Violet flower, that Liz Taylor had violet eyes, or that Fender made a bass amp sometimes called a Liz Taylor because it had four, 10 inch speakers. A Four-tensky, see. As a matter of fact he had no idea really who Liz Taylor was.
He did know who Taylor Swift was-a tall rich stuck up dyke bitch, in his exact description. His musical tastes ran to Opeth and Devin Townsend.
The amazigh(Berber) tribe who conquered Spain are themselves often blond and blue eyed.
Anyway it’s silly to ascribe the development of Spain to Germanic and Celtic groups. The Irish will be the first to laugh at the latter claim.
Spain was ruled by a barbarian Germanic tribe called the Vandals. The Arabs who took over ushered a golden age of arts, sciences and architecture. Look I’m no leftist Muslim apologist and certainly “dark age” Europe is much underestimated and mocked unfairly. But let’s state facts and give credit where it’s due.
There was some valuable trade that brought many new crops from Asia, but the development of the arts was mostly confined to the court in Córdoba and did not produce many significant inventions.
“No, it’s not. The answer, by the way, is “No.” The actor is a white man born and raised in Europe.”
So Mr. Sailer is trying to hit the home run in the racial draft in its latter stages. Employing those HbD metrics, eh, rather than the old school approach?
So, aren’t the so-called Black Irish descendants of Spanish Armada sailers … sailors … ??? … washed up on the coast of Ireland? And that, plus the decidedly non-Becky body hair, should be enough to establish that Spaniards are people of colour.
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-for-a-latino-studio-to-steal-hollywood-from-hollywood-1201543162/
This from the guy who, the moment he got Hollywood famous, married a big blond surgically-enhanced white bimbo in the form of Melanie Griffith.
It’s amusing to see him play up his Hispanic side for attention and Oscar votes now that its chic to do so. None of it is serious from him.
Pierce Brosnan has played both sides of his life’s coin well. He was born and raised his first 12 years in Ireland, but then moved to London for much of his teenage schooling and training. When it’s convenient for him, he’ll play up being Irish and affect a slight brough, but when he needs some Englishness (such as when he was in the running and playing and doing interviews for James Bond) he’s all English business.
My Spanish grandmother would have looked at you like you were an idiot if you asked if she were colored. Because you would be an idiot to ask the question.
I always found the conflation of “Hispanic” and “Latin” to be incorrect and amusing. The reasoning is that Spanish is a Romance language, therefore it’s speakers are “Latino”. The problem here is that Spanish is just one of many languages derived from Latin; the category also includes Portuguese, French, Walloon, Radosh, Italian (duh) and Romanian. By the same logic, the speakers of all these languages could be considered “Latinos” but they are not. Unless you are referring to the actual language that originated in Italy, “Latin” is a bullshit term used exclusively by historically, geographically and etymologically illiterate Americans.
As in the case of "color" it's all linguistic shorthand. And, yeah, all bullshit.
https://twitter.com/PaulSkallas/status/1225987483420299265
Why go to Russia?
https://flic.kr/p/2iqLfvj
https://flic.kr/p/2iqPYQ7
Steve, you are forgetting the wogs begin at Calais.
All regions of Spain are heavily ancient Iberian. The largest introgression is Italian, not Arab or Germanic.
“Technically, White is a color.”
I’m fairly Nordic so I guess I classify as white. Although I’m more pink than white, with red splotches of rosacea. A dermatologist once told me rosacea is an Irish woman’s disease. I think he was slyly insulting my moobs.
You are completely wrong on all counts. Sorry.
Nobody covered this subject better than Dave Chappelle:
https://youtu.be/KWdiJA3acDg
https://youtu.be/cGbCBmZ5hxg
Ed, I also find it odd Mr. Peterson would seek treatment in Russia. Wonder if it’s connected in some way to his ailing wife (alternative treatments)? In any event Jordon has always been somewhat of a “Russianite”. His home is adorned with a Russian theme:
To be specific, that's Bolshevik. Who puts up a life-sized picture of Lenin on the wall of their house?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z3wUD3AZg4
Mr. Liberty, just by happenstance Oprah is mentioned in the skit at around the 5:40 mark. The commentators mention that the white delegation would like to make Winfrey a pick. With what’s going on, or is that down, with the whole Snoop Dogg/Gale King episodic meltdown, perhaps Oprah, & Gale, may want to switch teams?
Susan Rice @AmbassadorRice
This is despicable. Gayle King is one of the most principled, fair and tough journalists alive. Snoop, back the **** off. You come for @GayleKing, you come against an army. You will lose, and it won’t be pretty.
https://youtu.be/KWdiJA3acDg
https://youtu.be/cGbCBmZ5hxg
Even more “coincidental” Susan Rice was drafted as “white” at the 5:30 mark in Chappelle’s skit. Here is Rice’s Twitter comment:
Susan Rice @AmbassadorRice
This is despicable. Gayle King is one of the most principled, fair and tough journalists alive. Snoop, back the **** off. You come for @GayleKing, you come against an army. You will lose, and it won’t be pretty.
This is not due to the moorish invasion as most people think., which had very little genetic impact.
It's simply because the average UV index in central Spain is much higer than that found anywhere else in Europe, and significantly higher even than in Italy or the Balkans.
People from Istanbul tend to be lighter skinned than people from Malaga, as one would expect from looking at the uv index.
This is correct. As written above, the North African admixture in the Spanish population is quite small and only reaching as high as 10% in western and southern Spain.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08272-w
Pain and Glory is a pretty good movie. I didn’t know Banderas could act.
I remember some SJWs being upset that Banderas played a Muslim in “The 13th Warrior”. Being offended is a never-ending job for these morons.
White is a color, no? Then doesn’t it follow that Banderas is a “person of color?”
Oh…wait a minute.
I'm fairly Nordic so I guess I classify as white. Although I'm more pink than white, with red splotches of rosacea. A dermatologist once told me rosacea is an Irish woman's disease. I think he was slyly insulting my moobs.
No such thing as a “white” person—unless they’re drained of all their blood (and even then…). A Northern European would be…what? “Light skinned” I guess. Half the so-called “blacks” are mocha. Jeezus, yeah, I get it, linguistic shorthand etc. albeit totally misleading and devoid of reality.
The most industrialised parts of Spain have always been the Basque Country and Asturias, and those are also the parts with least Moorish influence.
Asturian and Galician music is very Celtic, and the northern areas are very different from the southern ones.
Seville and Granada – cliche is hot gypsy music, passionate saetas sung to Our Lady, sun.
Galicia and Asturias – cliche is bagpipes, cider, rain, though I heard a bit of Colombian music too when I was last there. Love the place, but then I’m not keen on too much sun.
Oh! Spot-ON!! Wish I had written this.
As in the case of “color” it’s all linguistic shorthand. And, yeah, all bullshit.
Latin came into use in Protestant America, which wanted to easily distinguish itself and pretty much Protestant Canada from the Catholic sphere to the South (but even here that doesn’t work because of Quebec and Louisiana). I was just in a thread with an adamant … Iberian, who offered many corrections and maps. I can’t find the one really useful one (a triple world map with linked colors, showing the applications of three major terms and the usefulness of his favorite), but his point was to start using Iberic, because that would include “Latin America,” the Spanish-speaking New World, but also Brazil and Portugal, while of course excluding things Franconian.
So —
Iberic: anything from the languages and cultures of Europe’s South-Western peninsula, including their former colonies in the New World.
Hispanic: derived from Spain. Portugese are not Hispanic, but white Mexicans like Benicio Del Toro are.
Lusitanic (or Lusic): derived from Portugal.
Mestizo: an inhabitant of the New World descended from both conquistadors and native American peoples.
Latin: [Defenestrate users of this term not describing RESPUBLICAROMANA].
Chicano: SJW type identifying vocally as Mexican but born in the US; the worst cough constantly, seeming to say “Atzlan, Atzlan.”
Chorizo: Excellent, but Spanish only, “Mexican chorizo” is some kind of prank.
Once upon a time a Brit would have called him a ‘dago’, an unflattering name derived IIRC from ‘Diego’. Frequently prefixed by ‘greasy’ in those less woke days.
An unsophisticated Brit.
Clonazepam is not usually prescribed by reputable physicians for depression, because there are a number of safer, more effective drugs available. It is mainly used as an antiseizure drug, or for anxiety and panic attacks, and might possibly play some part in detoxification for alcoholics,but should not be taken in combination with alcohol.
If a doctor has a patient on Clonazepam, for whatever reason, they would normally slowly taper the drug off at the end of treatment to prevent seizures. Inpatient care is not needed for this, and it seems very unlikely that a patient would “check himself into” a rehab clinic for this reason. Clonazepam is not recommended for long-term treatment as addiction may occur. Since antidepressant medication is usually prescribed for at least 6 months, that is another reason not to use Clonazepam for depression.
If the quoted section above is true and correct, he might have a negligence case against his physician, but most likely there are important details missing, and all may not be as it seems.
When it comes to reports of celebrities “checking into” rehab clinics, the truth is hardly ever told to the public, and there is no reason why it should be, due to medical confidentiality rules, but stuff made up by press agents often gives an inaccurate impression from which people draw further false conclusions.
An extreme example would be President Trump’s published physical exam reports and cover letter, which clearly were not written by a medical doctor.
” The actor is a white man born and raised in Europe.” Islamic occupied Europe.
He is from Málaga, Andalusia, Spain. Andalusia was under Arab rule for 800 years. Málaga was under Islamic rule as Mālaqah (Arabic: مالقة) for 800 years, but in 1487, the Crown of Castille gained control in the midst of the Granada War. That means he is some sort of North African maybe even Jewish. I want to see his 23 & Me results.
He's not White. He's a mongrel. That 18% Non-White DNA is a LOT of DNA.
So, sngobody just catfished Portland Antifa into making violent fools of themselves by falsely annoucing a Klan rally.
Interesting language point: Portland authorities and media do not identify Antifa terrorists as Antifa, instead they talk about individuals dressed in all black. This reminds one of how September Eleventh was ruined by “some people” who “did some things.”
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/08/klan-is-a-no-show-but-individuals-wearing-all-black-were-spotted-throwing-projectiles-and-pepper-spraying-others/
And I’m not saying this brilliant move was Andy, we have no way of gnowing, and there must be Portlandians besides him angry at the unpoliced violent heroin addicts pretending to moral superiority.
So --
Iberic: anything from the languages and cultures of Europe's South-Western peninsula, including their former colonies in the New World.
Hispanic: derived from Spain. Portugese are not Hispanic, but white Mexicans like Benicio Del Toro are.
Lusitanic (or Lusic): derived from Portugal.
Mestizo: an inhabitant of the New World descended from both conquistadors and native American peoples.
Latin: [Defenestrate users of this term not describing RESPUBLICAROMANA].
Chicano: SJW type identifying vocally as Mexican but born in the US; the worst cough constantly, seeming to say "Atzlan, Atzlan."
Chorizo: Excellent, but Spanish only, "Mexican chorizo" is some kind of prank.
Not sure how that last bit happened, did not intend to lol my own comment.
This is not due to the moorish invasion as most people think., which had very little genetic impact.
It's simply because the average UV index in central Spain is much higer than that found anywhere else in Europe, and significantly higher even than in Italy or the Balkans.
People from Istanbul tend to be lighter skinned than people from Malaga, as one would expect from looking at the uv index.
North Africans usually have different facial features, their lips and eyes are different even if their skin colour is the same or lighter than a Spaniards. There is a limited degree of overlap.
Spain was ruled by a barbarian Germanic tribe called the Vandals. The Arabs who took over ushered a golden age of arts, sciences and architecture. Look I'm no leftist Muslim apologist and certainly "dark age" Europe is much underestimated and mocked unfairly. But let's state facts and give credit where it's due.
This so-called Golden Age lasted less than 200 years and degenerated quickly. Most of the Muslim period in Spain is basically infighting between small kingdoms after the collapse of the Ummayad dinasty, followed by invasions of religios fanatics that helped slow down the Reconquista.
There was some valuable trade that brought many new crops from Asia, but the development of the arts was mostly confined to the court in Córdoba and did not produce many significant inventions.
Desperado (El Mariachi 2) (1995) was easily Banderas’ most fun movie:
Great chemistry with the always immaculate Salma Hayek.
He is from Málaga, Andalusia, Spain. Andalusia was under Arab rule for 800 years. Málaga was under Islamic rule as Mālaqah (Arabic: مالقة) for 800 years, but in 1487, the Crown of Castille gained control in the midst of the Granada War. That means he is some sort of North African maybe even Jewish. I want to see his 23 & Me results.
He does not look North African. You should visit both countries and you’ll see the different facial features. It’s not about skin colour.
David Oyelowo was born and (mostly) raised in England. Does that make him white, or English?
It’s funny that so much of the argument around someone’s PoC status seems to center on where he was born and raised. I guess if he was born and raised in Mexico, but with the same exact DNA, the multicult people would still hold him up as a PoC (for US purposes only, of course) based on the fainest whiff of a hope that maybe, possibly, somewhere up the family tree there was a branch or twig of Amerindian blood. If he was born in a tree they’d probably tell us he was a bird.
The reality is that the multicult people want to show us Latin Americans of accomplishment, and if they start to get too assertive (say by excluding 100% Europeans, or Levantines or Jews) they suddenly won’t have too many examples for us.
Well, he is not exactly white, is he?
He is pretty swarthy.
Spain was ruled by a barbarian Germanic tribe called the Vandals. The Arabs who took over ushered a golden age of arts, sciences and architecture. Look I'm no leftist Muslim apologist and certainly "dark age" Europe is much underestimated and mocked unfairly. But let's state facts and give credit where it's due.
Really? Could have fooled me.
The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise:
Is Lupita Ngongo Hispanic? Lupita means “wolf cub” in Spanish, but I would have though Zorrita (fox cub) would be more apt.
I guess Banderas should be flagged as European since Spain is part of the EU and Banderas means “flags” in Spanish.
Journalists are getting more illiterate by the day.
Illiteracy is the new sexy.
Most importantly, the North African influence dates back to the Roman Empire or even earlier than that. There was no mass immigration during the Arab conquest, but very limited immigration from a few thousand berber warriors and a handful Arab aristocrats. Arab genetics is close to non-existent in Morrocco, let alone Spain.
I’ve been to Spain many, many times. In fact, I’ve lived there(Palma de Mallorca).
The fact that only a few thousand Moor warriors mated with Spanish women doesen’t matter, because of the enormous male reproductive capacity.
Face it: southern Spaniards are part Arbab. Don’t try to argue with this just because you viscerally dislike that fact. Oh well, you still have Catalonia!
Most importantly, the North African influence dates back to the Roman Empire or even earlier than that. There was no mass immigration during the Arab conquest, but very limited immigration from a few thousand berber warriors and a handful Arab aristocrats. Arab genetics is close to non-existent in Morrocco, let alone Spain.
Problem of Spain is like that of Ireland.
Modern Inferiority Complex.
In modern times, Spain and Ireland were regarded as backward, superstitious, culturally reactionary, dull and boring, and stuffy compared to vibrant centers of cosmopolitanism. And this repressive backwardness came to be associated with the Catholic Church. Ireland was more leftist in politics than Franco-ist Spain, but both were deemed culturally reactionary, the backwaters of Europe.
So, when they had their chance at cultural liberalism, they tried to compensate for their backwardness with extreme lurch toward cosmopolitanism, individualism, modernity, and decadence.
The result has been disastrous for both nations. They’ve taken to abortion, globo-homo, and diversity even more than other European nations.
This is all very sad because the Spanish and Irish had nothing to feel inferior about. Sure, other Western nations made more money and gained more power, but they were not culturally better with their soulless modernity.
https://flic.kr/p/2iqLfvj
https://flic.kr/p/2iqPYQ7
His home is adorned with a Russian theme:
To be specific, that’s Bolshevik. Who puts up a life-sized picture of Lenin on the wall of their house?
Romanians who are the blondest Romance language speaking group consider themselves southern European but other southern European don't want anything to do with them.
I found it odd how Romanian women like to Anglicize their names even if the modification is minor. For eg Nicoletta becomes Nicole and Violeta is Violet.
I taught some one the old color code recently and they had never even heard of Violet as a female given name, so it didn’t make sense to them.
Black (or Bad) Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gave Willingly.
Black brown red orange yellow green blue violet gray white.
He was oblivious as well to the African Violet flower, that Liz Taylor had violet eyes, or that Fender made a bass amp sometimes called a Liz Taylor because it had four, 10 inch speakers. A Four-tensky, see. As a matter of fact he had no idea really who Liz Taylor was.
He did know who Taylor Swift was-a tall rich stuck up dyke bitch, in his exact description. His musical tastes ran to Opeth and Devin Townsend.
I think it’s interesting when I read a lot of these so-called experts and intellectuals about the “realities” about Spanish genetics, when the genetic papers have been done and the verdict is in. It is not what you think.
Andalucia does not the highest amount of North African DNA, it does not. Galicia, of the NW and Extrenamuda do. They top at about 10 – 12%. Portugal has a higher amount of North Africa on average despite being under Muslim control for only about three hundred years. This is probably due to their smaller population, and so a smaller foreign group would have a greater impact. Both Galicia and Portugal have more Germanic genetic influence as well.
North Africans are not Arab, and both Spaniards and Portuguese have little actual Arab ancestry. I’ve seen numbers as high as 1%!
North Africans are a caucasoid group, so having about 5% average North African (which is the average of the peninsula taken together) does not change the population’s race in any way, the same way that having about 5% “Asiatic” does not make certain North Eastern Europeans less European.
Iberians, both the Spanish and the Portuguese, are the most western clustering Southern European – even if you don’t include the Basques. They cluster closely to the much ballyhooed North Italians and Southern French, and away from North Africans as well as more borderline ancestral group (such as Sicilians, note, I don’t dislike or have anything personal against Sicilians).
There is little real genetic difference between any Iberian anywhere, outside of the Canarias and Basques. There is actually much more genetic difference between Italians than there is between Iberians.
Spain kicked out much of its Morisco population in 1609, depleting many of the southern towns. These towns were retaken by northern settlers. This was a very dramatic change, as the recent paper showed that skeletons of people buried before the reconquista in Valencia showed as much as 50% North African admixture. Today, that area has an average of 5%! This is what is called “population replacement.”
There was North African ancestry in the south eastern corner of the peninsula due to Carthage and even Roman occupation, as they brought many “Romans” from their holdings in North Africa and the Levant.
Iberians are the closest group to the original Anatolian farmers outside of Sardinians. We look how we look because of Farmer ancestry, not 5% North African on average.
All of this information can be easily verified.
Antoni Banderas does not look in any way exotic. He exotifies himself on purpose because he is a cynical Hollywood douche. He is interested in making money and furthering his career. That is all. He knows that being exotic and non-white will further his career, so he plays the part. But in reality, he is well within the European spectrum of hair and skin tone, particularly Southern Europe.
no
Khan was whitewashed long before Cumberbatch took the role.
Montalban played the character twice – once in the late-’60s TV show and again in the early-’80s movie.
In 1967, they put brown makeup on Montalban to make him look darker. That’s right – brownface:
The character was identified as Indian:
One of the characters even painted a portrait of Khan in full Sikh garb:
But by 1982, Khan had suffered a severe bout of vitiligo:
Most of his followers (including his son, played by Judson Scott, at the lower right) looked like Vikings.
Incidentally, Star Trek Into Darkness is a terrible movie. Not because Benedict Cumberbatch is pasty, but because J.J. Abrams is a soulless hack who churns out soft-reboot melanges of regurgitated bullshit.
They have no such concerns about my watching footage of any number of so-called "Gay Pride" parades and the accompanying degeneracy.
(Everybody is awful these days; it's enough to make anyone crazy....)
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-for-a-latino-studio-to-steal-hollywood-from-hollywood-1201543162/
“There are still prejudices…..”
In other words anglos are as uncomfortable with hispanic culture as vice versa.
https://flic.kr/p/2iqLfvj
https://flic.kr/p/2iqPYQ7
Wow, I had no idea Peterson was that screwed up.
https://youtu.be/DTwEFa5NW2k
“Once upon a time a Brit would have called him a ‘dago’”
An unsophisticated Brit.
FIFY.
AA was supposed to benefit blacks, not every Pancho who sneaks across the border or Raj who comes over on a H1-B and stays forever.
But it is a very lucrative racket for a lot of people.
He is from Málaga, Andalusia, Spain. Andalusia was under Arab rule for 800 years. Málaga was under Islamic rule as Mālaqah (Arabic: مالقة) for 800 years, but in 1487, the Crown of Castille gained control in the midst of the Granada War. That means he is some sort of North African maybe even Jewish. I want to see his 23 & Me results.
Thank you. You posted this information first. His DNA test indicates mostly Caucasian – but 11% Arab, and 7% “Mexican”. Which means Mestizo mongrel.
He’s not White. He’s a mongrel. That 18% Non-White DNA is a LOT of DNA.
Spanish people have the same (ancient) genetic components as other Europeans, and they're probably less mongrelized than you:
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2019/12/whos-really-more-european.html
Of course he’s a person of color! After all, he’s white, and white is also a color!
An unsophisticated Brit.
Hey Coronavirus is back…I was hoping you got quarantined.
He absolutely is in America, anyone who speaks Spanish natively is considered a “person of color” in the US by default. Even the Latin Americans of 100% European ancestry are considered non-white.
I would also say Antonio Banderas is a bit too “ethnic” looking to pass as white in the US under the “one drop” rule regardless of language.
In the US the term “white” is a bit more exclusive than Europe. In the US white traditionally refers to people of Anglo, Germanic, French and usually Northern Italian origin. Irish and Slavs were traditionally a borderline case but are mostly seen as white today.
Spanish, Portuguese, Southern Italian, Greeks, etc, have always been considered “ethnic” in US racial classification and still are seen that way today.
Technically, white is the absence of color. Of course, whites aren’t white.
I think the average flyover prole of Germanic/British stock who doesn't know any better just thinks of him as some kind of Mexican.
Antonio Banderas played a white guy in “Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown.”
This is an ’80s dark comedy by Pedro Almodovar and may even have been Banderas’s first movie role.
Montalban played the character twice - once in the late-'60s TV show and again in the early-'80s movie.
In 1967, they put brown makeup on Montalban to make him look darker. That's right - brownface:
https://sfzone1-legalbrandmarket.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Star-Trek-Space-Seed-3-2.png
The character was identified as Indian:One of the characters even painted a portrait of Khan in full Sikh garb:
https://americanturban.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/khannooniensinghpainting.jpg
But by 1982, Khan had suffered a severe bout of vitiligo:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N40yZHV0GU4/UV28Dhyc-RI/AAAAAAAABwU/V_8N8y40q_E/s1600/khan.jpg
https://film5000.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/review/image/91/Wrath_of_Kahn-MAIN.jpg
Most of his followers (including his son, played by Judson Scott, at the lower right) looked like Vikings.
Incidentally, Star Trek Into Darkness is a terrible movie. Not because Benedict Cumberbatch is pasty, but because J.J. Abrams is a soulless hack who churns out soft-reboot melanges of regurgitated bullshit.
You inspired me to re-watch the original episode. YouTube want me to sign in to confirm my age before they will permit me to watch a clip of Khan and Kirk fighting.
They have no such concerns about my watching footage of any number of so-called “Gay Pride” parades and the accompanying degeneracy.
(Everybody is awful these days; it’s enough to make anyone crazy….)
He's not White. He's a mongrel. That 18% Non-White DNA is a LOT of DNA.
I’m glad you agree Greeks and Spaniards aren’t White now. Especially since we have enough Ancient DNA from both cultures.
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2017/08/genetic-continuity-in-greece.html
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2019/11/ancient-roman-dna.html
Ricpic, this was linked on the UNZ site earlier today. Hope Mr. Peterson makes it back, something must be/have been pretty far askew to “give up” on treatment in the US. Or maybe it’s just to take advantage of lower treatment costs there?
“Radosh,” though…?
People “don’t know” that because it’s bullshit that was made up by idiots like Arthur Kemp. Spanish people all cluster genetically together with other Southern Euros, nowhere near Germans or Arabs. In fact, they (including Andalusians in the South) are closest to Northern Italians:
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2017/05/genetically-southern-european.html
He's not White. He's a mongrel. That 18% Non-White DNA is a LOT of DNA.
Those DNA tests are crap. “Arab” and “Mexican” aren’t even real genetic components. How could Banderas have “Mexican” DNA when he’s 100% from Spain, fool?
Spanish people have the same (ancient) genetic components as other Europeans, and they’re probably less mongrelized than you:
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2019/12/whos-really-more-european.html
You clearly don’t know how to read and understand genetic studies, because they prove that the Ancient DNA in Southern Europe is the same as the Modern DNA:
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2017/08/genetic-continuity-in-greece.html
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2019/11/ancient-roman-dna.html
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2017/08/genetic-continuity-in-greece.html
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2019/11/ancient-roman-dna.html
Missed the joke.
Of course Spaniards are genetically homogeneous with all other Europeans, We all share the same ancient ancestry genes and characteristics.
The LA Times is peddling anti White BS and nothing more as often noted by Steve. And one or two of the comments here claiming the actor in question is something he is not are irrelevant.
An example of irrelevant comments is the one above my own by Aldon, He makes an disingenuous comment to which someone answers with facts to which he then replies with a joke. Irrelevant.