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From the BBC:

Where hyenas are used to treat mental illness
By Richard Hooper
BBC World Service
17 October 2013

… “There is a belief in my country that hyenas can see everything including the evil spirits people think cause mental illness,” says Hab. “So in Mogadishu, you will find hyenas that have been brought from the bush and families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal.”

The expensive treatment – more than the average annual wage – is as brutal as it sounds. By clawing and biting at the patient, the hyena is thought to force the evil spirit out. Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process. …

WHO estimates that one in three Somalis either is or has been affected by mental illness, compared to a global average of one in 10. In parts of the country, where the population has been the most psychologically scarred from decades of conflict, the rate is even higher. Cases of post-traumatic stress disorder are common and the situation is further complicated by widespread substance abuse.

“Khat is a big, big problem,” says Hab of the herbal stimulant which has been chewed for centuries in East Africa. Side effects are thought to include anxiety and even psychosis. “We treat them in the hospital and they leave, but then they start eating khat again. Sometimes I see the same patients seven or eight times.”

 
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  1. Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    • LOL: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Dumbo

    "Bring the hyenas too".....lol. That deserved better than just the lol button.

    , @Blobby5
    @Dumbo

    They can have hyenas rather than pit bulls in the hood, the new ghetto status accessory.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @Dumbo

    A nation of immigrants! So says Obama,who is NOT,he assures us,an immigrant.

    , @Grandpa Jack
    @Dumbo

    If Hillary and her pals get their way, we'll be seeing those hyenas along with the refugees. Can't deprive them of their beautiful culture after all. All cultures are equal and worthy of praise, especially if they're African and not whitey's.

    How can we be so sure our Western ways of treating mental illness are any better? After all, they were overwhelmingly created by patriarchial sexist binary racist white men. Can it get any more evil and suspect? The 'natural' way of the Somali may have have few bumps, but you can be sure anyone getting this treatment will have a strong desire to do their all to deal with and get rid of their mental illness to never be treated this way again!

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Dumbo

    Dumbo, We already have packs of hyenas roaming the streets of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis and other formerly great American cities.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @Dumbo

    Bring the hyenas! Don't bother,they're here...

    , @bomag
    @Dumbo


    Thousands more! Millions more!
     
    Our handlers will be making that Billions! and Trillions! if they can.

    For some reason, the working model here treats people like they are a limited natural resource akin to a precious metal. Don't the taste makers notice that we can make any number of people? It is an industrial process: feed in raw materials, and people come out the other side. It is a math problem: x amount of raw material; y amount of people.

    I'm reminded of the Marvel comic people on a planet orbiting the star Rigel: their overpopulation became so severe that they went insane from the press of the bodies.

    , @Olorin
    @Dumbo

    Not to detract from your magnificent javaspew comment...but when I worked in "big city" (i.e., small city, 70% black) ER and trauma treatment, infants, children, and elders were constantly brought in who'd been savaged by canines. Sorry to say, not just from the biting end of the beast.

    Some had been so injured deliberately by closing them in rooms with them.

    Especially the elders, who had this habit of having needs, when all they were kept around for was their SS disability and other welfare checks.

    This isn't about hyenas. It's about population genetics.

    The Somalis have PTSD indeed: Plenty of Terrible Somali DNA.

  2. families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal… Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process

    Life is an IQ test.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @ATX Hipster

    'Evil spirits' are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for Muslims and other demon-worshipers) , the only sure-fire cure is Christianity.

    , @Bill B.
    @ATX Hipster


    Life is an IQ test.
     
    Oh I don't know.

    I can think of several TV pundits and politicians who would benefit from Hyena Night.

    It might knock the smugness off Bill Maher for a start.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ATX Hipster, @SteveRogers42

    , @415 reasons
    @ATX Hipster

    OT: did anyone else get really sad when they saw this Coke commercial they played in the Olympics?

    It seems like a warning from our dystopian polyglot future.

    Someone needs to tell those ad executives that the story of the Tower of Babel wasn't supposed to be positive.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Brutusale

  3. If you’d been locked in a room with a crazy animal overnight, you’d be pissed as well. So let’s pity the hyenas.

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
  4. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    “Bring the hyenas too”…..lol. That deserved better than just the lol button.

    • Agree: International Jew
  5. “families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal… Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process”

    How did you make so much money in Somalia? Well, it’s complicated.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Danindc

    Somalis are enterprising.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

    , @International Jew
    @Danindc


    How did you make so much money in Somalia?
     
    Maybe hyenatherapy is covered by their insurance.
  6. @Danindc
    "families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal… Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process"

    How did you make so much money in Somalia? Well, it's complicated.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @International Jew

    Somalis are enterprising.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Steve Sailer

    "Somalis are enterprising."

    According to Bill Gates, Somalis and Africans in general are the future who are going to advance society even more. He is an expert on them because he lives around so many Blacks in Medina, Washington which is an affluent suburb of Seattle.

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, they are certainly a damned sight smarter than the EU commissioners, the UK government, UK welfare agencies, UK immigration authorities, UK housing authorities, local councils, the lefties, the neo-liberals, the political class, The Economist magazine etc etc, to name but a few.

    As that old Australian saying goes, 'who's the c*nt?'.

    Well, it's definitely not the Somalis.

  7. OT:

    Anyone know what happened to Ann Barnhardt’s blog?

    Who got to her first? ISIS or the US government?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Paul Mendez

    I think they put her in a room with a hyena. Need more hyenas.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    , @Oaklanders
    @Paul Mendez

    Off topic again www.barnhardt.biz

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Paul Mendez

    Lady Anne is still posting. A couple of entries dated August 6.

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/

    Along with her faith in Higher Power, I hope she's got some teammates looking out for her here in the Temporal Realm.

  8. A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    @wren

    "A quick Google search does not turn up much."
    No, it won't... bad news about settlements of "refugees" and illegal immigrants, like the measles and drug-resistant TB outbreaks in the area around these settlements, is being suppressed.
    A lot like the press in Merkel's Germany, unfortunately.

    I had always thought that American reporters would tend to investigate, expose and attack when a scandal like this presents itself, just out of sheer ambition and "careerism", if there is such a word.

    Looks like the big money is in cooperating with the Establishment these days.
    This does not bode well for the future of this country.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Brutusale
    @wren

    A friend has one of the church idiots involved in the project on his FB page, and it's kumbaya all the way down. My nephew, on the ground in college in Burlington, says the story, to be judicious, is evolving, and not in a good way.

    The nephew feels it will be self-correcting, though, as a lot of the stale pales in the surrounding area are armed to the teeth and of a libertarian bent.

    , @iSteveFan
    @wren

    I don't know about Vermont, but they are definitely in Maine.


    In 2011, there were an estimated 5,000 Somali immigrants in Lewiston. Around 5,000 Somalis also resided in Portland.
     
    , @CCZ
    @wren

    Do not forget Mogadishu on the Mississippi River.

    From Minnesota Bringmethenews.com


    Youth group wants $4M state cash to stop Somalis becoming extremists
    January 10, 2015 By Adam Uren

    The Ka Joog youth group wants funding to fight terror recruitment.
    Youth group leaders want millions of dollars in state cash to fund activity programs designed to keep Minnesota’s young Somalis out of the clutches of extremist groups.

    The Associated Press reports that Somali youth group Ka Joog are asking for $4.35 million of state cash spread over two years, which it says would keep at-risk Somali youths in Minnesota’s public school system occupied through arts initiatives, workforce training and after-school programs.

     


    First Somali museum in North America to open in Minneapolis
    October 18, 2013 By Tim Lammers

    Organizers are readying the grand opening of the first museum in North America dedicated to the Somalian culture, the Star Tribune reports.

    The Somali Artifact & Culture Museum is the brainchild of Minneapolis restaurant owner Osman Ali, who has amassed a 700-piece collection of items such as a camel’s milking jar, traditional shoes and a drum-like instrument called a durbaan.

    Ali tells KARE 11 that the idea came to him during a 2009 trip to Somalia, which made him realize how younger Somlians here no longer understood the country’s nomadic culture.

     

    , @Saint Louis
    @wren

    Now they want to import Syrians to Vermont, too.

    , @IBC
    @wren

    Here's an interesting article about a Somali Bantu woman in Vermont which simultaneously touches on several iSteve themes:

    http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/hate-crime-victim-fatuma-bulle-advocates-for-refugee-women-and-families/Content?oid=3421114

    Somali refugees are actually from at least two different groups: ethnic Somalis and Somali "Bantus." Supposedly, Somali Bantus are descended from slaves originally brought to Somalia from other parts of Africa and suffer a lower social status there due to that history. From what I've seen, Somali Bantus dress and act more or less like ethnic Somalis, but facially they look more like other black Africans.

    It sounds like the integration and assimilation of Vermont's Somali refugees is probably going about as well as could be expected given the ideologies at play --the woman in the above article is even a member of BLM! Interestingly, even Vermont's own "Muslim community" supposedly has an internal problem with stereotyping. I know a significant number of Vermont Muslims are of Bosnian origin, but I haven't heard whether they're being blamed for this yet (and in fact they may be innocent).

    Sevendaysvt.com is a great left-wing news source for Burlington and Vermont in general.

  9. @ATX Hipster

    families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal... Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process

     

    Life is an IQ test.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Bill B., @415 reasons

    ‘Evil spirits’ are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for Muslims and other demon-worshipers) , the only sure-fire cure is Christianity.

  10. White countries should turn a blind eye to the cat in their dindu populations, it might lower their numbers and make them docile. Prison officers like heroin.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Keith Vaz


    White countries should turn a blind eye to the cat in their dindu populations, it might lower their numbers and make them docile. Prison officers like heroin.
     
    Notwithstanding The Narrative's incessant whining about the War on Drugs as some sort of Negro Extermination method, the African-derived element in the West has continued to breed quite prolifically.
  11. Somalis and their hyenas were Kangs N Shit while Crackas was still livin in dem caves.

  12. • Replies: @Anonymous
    @BenKenobi

    I love this song.

  13. @Steve Sailer
    @Danindc

    Somalis are enterprising.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

    “Somalis are enterprising.”

    According to Bill Gates, Somalis and Africans in general are the future who are going to advance society even more. He is an expert on them because he lives around so many Blacks in Medina, Washington which is an affluent suburb of Seattle.

  14. So basically 23 years ago we invaded Somalia because it was 3rd world heckhole of misery, depression, violence, disease, famine, and corruption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_%281993%29

    Books and movies came out depicting how awful life was there.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down_%28book%29)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down_%28film%29

    Decades later it was no different; the residents had taken up piracy on the open seas, committing atrocities along the way.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Alabama_hijacking

    A movie got made about that as well.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Phillips_%28film%29

    And now, in 2016, we’re supposed to pretend these folks will fit right into a first-world country and not be a problem.

    Seriously, smh.

    I’ve toyed with the idea of researching how the mass Irish immigration of the 1840s onwards in our nation–and later the late 19th Century Southern and Eastern European immigration—turned once-livable cities into heckholes of murder, violence, and corruption. It would sting to those of us (including myself) with roots in that immigration, but it would be necessary to show that those immigrants did not seamlessly integrate and become first-worlders, but remained and brought with them 2nd and third world problems.

    Heck, the history of the Five Points alone is enough to chill one’s blood about the “greatness” of mass immigration from the 2nd and 3rd world–at least 70 years of filth:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points,_Manhattan

    Thee romanticization of the American Mafia—with its roots in Italian and Jewish street gangs, and stretching back to Irish-American street gangs (the Five Families can be traced to Irish street gangs whose territory they took over)—-should be turned on its head: the mass importation of those groups added a shnikey-load of murder and crime that has lasted to this day. Do we really want even more of that?

    • Replies: @MJMD
    @whorefinder


    I’ve toyed with the idea of researching how the mass Irish immigration of the 1840s onwards in our nation–and later the late 19th Century Southern and Eastern European immigration—turned once-livable cities into heckholes of murder, violence, and corruption.
     
    That's pretty much openly acknowledged by most serious historians, whorefinder. William J. Stuntz's "The Collapse of American Criminal Justice" faithfully documents how 19th century mass immigration was responsible for one of the two largest crime waves in American history (the other was the result of the Great Migration). Or, better yet, read George Orwell, whose view was that mass immigration was openly used by America's elites as a battering ram against the country's original Republican values, turning the USA from a nation of mostly Protestant smallholders into a playground for industrial capitalists.

    But it was a trade: America moved from the periphery of world affairs to become a global power. Mass immigration, at least in its early stages, was also a battering ram against the South in the Civil War, and I wouldn't argue that the triumph of plantation values would have been markedly superior to the ascendancy of industrial capitalism. Nor, for that matter, would the triumph of Germany's administrative state in the early 20th century (any version, really) have been an improvement over the one sadly erected by Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Moreover, without mass immigration from Europe the Great Migration might simply have been greater, with fewer African Americans concentrated in the South and just as much attendant crime and misery as they spread throughout the rest of the country. Blacks would have made up the majority of the proletariat, and, instead of enjoying working conditions closer to those afforded white immigrants, might have given racist owners an excuse to make life even worse for labour. America might have become a northern Brazil

    So diversity did bring strength. The question, as always, is whose strength.

  15. Good to know where the aid actually went.

    A Department for International Development spokesman said: ‘This report provides absolutely no evidence that any UK funds have gone to Al Shabaab.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566310/90m-British-aid-Somalia-helps-Al-Qaeda-Pressure-grows-divert-cash-UK.html#ixzz4GXuIK7WZ

  16. That’s not the only thing khat does.

  17. Sigmund Freud’s Hyena – New Territoy

    The middle-class bias in Social-Psychology and Ethno-Psychoanalysis prevented me from the knowledge of this kind of social practise.
    The BBC-World-Serice and Steve Sailer fill in the gap.

    If I don’t know about this practise ten years from know, I’ll be dead.
    This is as horrible as life itself.
    Mind you: Our civilization is extremely vulnerable (Sigmund Freud was the umpteenth boring old white male to say so).

    Plus: The Hyena-Treatment might already be a step foward, concerning what practises there were before the invention of this – technique.

    The last point might be definitely too much – like a corkscrew (Dylan) – – into Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. Too much at least for somebody not spezialised in the severer cases of human tragedy and naked horror. Therefor I leave it at that.

  18. This is how primitive societies handle mental illness, Europeans did something similar in Pagan times, whit the Church came the confessions to the Priest and exorcism in the worst cases, thanks to Freud we have pshycoanalysis now.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Chiron


    This is how primitive societies handle mental illness, Europeans did something similar in Pagan times, whit the Church came the confessions to the Priest and exorcism in the worst cases, thanks to Freud we have pshycoanalysis now.
     
    And "pshycoanalysis" is supposed to be an improvement? At least hyenas are cheap. So are dice and Ouija boards. How does--or did-- Freud compare with those?
    , @SteveRogers42
    @Chiron

    "Forgive us, Freud, for we have neuroses."

  19. my heart bleeds for the hyena,having to share a land with such monsters.

  20. Mind you hyena therapy is no more unscientific than most of psychiatry. And the hyenas might well cause fewer damaging long-term side effects than psychiatric drugs like SSRIs.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @dfordoom

    I bet it works just as well. I might feel depressed, but maybe I should just shut up and become a productive member of society lest my family lock me in a room with an archaic carnivora beast again.

  21. It’s barking mad.

    • LOL: gruff
  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Danindc

    Somalis are enterprising.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

    Well, they are certainly a damned sight smarter than the EU commissioners, the UK government, UK welfare agencies, UK immigration authorities, UK housing authorities, local councils, the lefties, the neo-liberals, the political class, The Economist magazine etc etc, to name but a few.

    As that old Australian saying goes, ‘who’s the c*nt?’.

    Well, it’s definitely not the Somalis.

  23. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    They can have hyenas rather than pit bulls in the hood, the new ghetto status accessory.

  24. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?

    — Pierce Hawthorne, Community

    OK, yes, the show portrays the old white guy as a money-grubbing bigot.

    But ya gotta admit, that line is pretty funny.

    • LOL: Kylie
  25. This is their version of shock therapy for mental patients?

  26. And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won’t do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
    @The Alarmist


    And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won’t do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.
     
    For some reason your comment immediately brought to mind this...

    The white man felt no more pain than any of the other pigs in the line. Stunned, hoisted, slaughtered ... And hanging from his hook, between two blood-drenched hogs, he started into production. As he moved along through each successive phase, growing less and less like man and more like pork, he caused a certain amount of interest, but no special disgust. They had seen such things before, after all. At market, in the Congo. (Except, that is, for a few white women, who promptly took to their heels, or swooned dead away. As for the foremen, they just turned and ran. They had read the blank looks on the faces of their slaves, and had gotten the message.) The ThirdWorld workers went on with their jobs, conscientious as could be, even unto the final labeling of the tins where the white man’s remains ended up as pâté. Perhaps we even ate some of him ourselves.
     
    , @cipher
    @The Alarmist

    The Alarmist,

    Who worked in the meat packing plants prior to the arrival of Somalis, Mexicans, Central Americans and Pacific Islanders?

    What are they and their descendants working on today?

    Slaughterhouse work used to be a rung-on-the-ladder job. A way to gain skills and then move on to more challenging - e.g., value added - work.

    That rung and many like it, even the ladder itself, are disappearing fast.

    What do you propose as its replacement?

    Where is your comprehensive program for its construction and maintenance?

    What steps have you taken to implement it?

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    , @Paul Yarbles
    @The Alarmist

    Hey Steve, why is my reply to Alarmist still in moderation? It's an appropriate excerpt from Raspail's The Camp of the Saints.

  27. What kind of subsidy can I get if I start an organic khat farm with free range hyenas?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Louis Renault


    "What kind of subsidy can I get if I start an organic khat farm with free range hyenas?"
     
    You will undoubtedly get an allocation of rights to bestow E3 visa job-opportunities on hard-working, unskilled Somalis who just want to contribute to our gorgeous mosaic while they make a better life for themselves and their children ... yes, there are always children to think about, and with a Somali it is usually 6 to 7 per woman.

    Your right to bestow E3 visa job-opportunities will be highly valued by the NGOs who have turned importing unskilled third world labour into a growth industry, so you will have plenty of opportunities to earn fees for helping them place their wares. And then there are, of course, job placement credits and subsidies from all levels of government ... isn't Federalism grand?

    But why limit yourself to Somalis? If you really want to go for the gold, check out the US Diversity visa programme: https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/diversity-visa/dv-2015-selected-entrants.html
  28. @ATX Hipster

    families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal... Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process

     

    Life is an IQ test.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Bill B., @415 reasons

    Life is an IQ test.

    Oh I don’t know.

    I can think of several TV pundits and politicians who would benefit from Hyena Night.

    It might knock the smugness off Bill Maher for a start.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Bill B.

    Hah!

    , @ATX Hipster
    @Bill B.

    Bill Maher is smug and irritating, but he's spoken out against Islam and politically correct speech policing a number of times. I've been surprised how many times I've found myself in agreement with him the past couple years.

    Jon Stewart though...

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Bill B.

    Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Sarah Silverman.

    Trevor Noah -- oh, wait a minute...

  29. I wonder if this originates in a scam run by the shamans (who would have had to be great BS artists) in tribal times. Kid acting up? No problem, the hyena will claw the evil spirits out…wait, he’s started behaving!

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @SFG

    Nice!

    , @SteveRogers42
    @SFG

    Changed his name to Amos B'havin.

  30. “Hyenas; doing the jobs that Americans just won’t do”

    Paul Ryan

  31. Khat consumption induces mild euphoria and excitement, similar to that conferred by strong coffee.[2] Individuals become very talkative under the influence of the plant. The effects of oral administration of cathinone occur more rapidly than the effects of amphetamine pills; roughly 15 minutes as compared to 30 minutes in amphetamine. Khat can induce manic behaviours and hyperactivity, similar in effects to those produced by amphetamine.

    Long-term use can precipitate: negative impact on liver function, permanent tooth darkening (of a greenish tinge), susceptibility to ulcers, and diminished sex drive. [I’m thinking they are paying all that money for some hoodoo that will get them grand kids, sort of like gay conversion therapy.]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat#Health_effects

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy

  32. It is wrong to treat Zakaria Bulhan with Western medicine. He needs to be treated in a culturally appropriate way. Zakaria needs and deserves the hyena treatment in order to drive out the evil spirits that are haunting him. Giving him the hyena treatment is the least we can do for him. Somali lives matter!

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Jack D

    Hyenas are intended for relatively mild personality disorders. For persons with Zakaria Bulhna's issues more radical treatment with a leopard or lion is indicated.

  33. Many of these Somalis are probably just feigning depression in order to get their shaman to write a scrip for a hyena.

    • LOL: Brutusale, TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    @Jonathan Silber

    Those Somalis and their backwards ways. Don't they know that all sensible people give their relatives albino limb potions to cure them? It's sooooo much less messy and traumatic. Sure, some albino guy somewhere probably had a pretty jacked-up day, but that's him, and not uncle Jojo, right? Out of sight, out of mind. Anyway, they're possessed or something anyway, right?

  34. Bit of signal boosting, not sure if this has already been picked up elsewhere but worth bringing to people’s attention:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/clinton-immigration-nabj-nahj/494783/

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @SFG

    It doesn't matter if Trump can't find a way to turn the media's apoplexy to his advantage.

    In a circumstance where the media is going to twist your words or outright lie about what you say (Babygate), it seems like the way to deal with it is to make sure your comments are confined to issues, like the opponent's corruption, that you want the public to keep thinking about. (For example, Russianhackgate was not so bad for Trump.)

    Unfortunately, Trump lacks the intuition or discipline to do this. He makes unforced errors (Curielgate and Plagiarismgate) and takes the other side's bait (Khangate).

    The election is his to lose. All he has to do is make it a referendum on Bill and Hillary rather than a referendum on Trump, but he's not doing it.

    The only interest this article has is to let us know that the Democrats are going to naturalize all the illegals as fast as possible when Hillary wins. Great. Who's going to stop her? Ryan? Ha!

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Jefferson
    @SFG

    "Bit of signal boosting, not sure if this has already been picked up elsewhere but worth bringing to people’s attention"

    Hildabeast tells a group of African American journalists that America needs comprehensive immigration reform. No talk about making it easier and cheaper for African Americans living in poverty to go to trade school.

    Comprehensive immigration reform is the solution to decrease the high poverty rate in the African American community.

  35. I remember a day after the Afghan axe attack in Germany, I was listening to BBC world news on NPR (it’s good for the humors– I’m too phlegmatic, need more yellow bile) and the announcer says something to the effect of “Afghan axe wielder was known to suffer from depression… are western nations doing enough for refugees’ mental health?”

    I had a good laugh with my colleague when I got to my desk, but I guess it’s the next thing: Ritalin for refugees. Go long Pfizer, short the euro…

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @everyday feminist

    "I’m too phlegmatic, need more yellow bile) and the announcer says something to the effect of “Afghan axe wielder was known to suffer from depression… are western nations doing enough for refugees’ mental health?”"

    The usual NPR formulation would be: "Afghan with an axe runs amok on train - axe-wielding Afghans hit hardest."

    , @Perspective
    @everyday feminist

    There was a "machete attack" on two (women) police officers in Belgium today, the attacker - who happened to be holding the machete at the time - shouted allahu akbar during the assault. I wonder if the attacker was suffering from mental illness as a result of being bullied in school. He's very quiet and shy too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726916/Two-Belgian-policemen-attacked-machete-wielding-assailant-shouting-Arabic.html#comments

    Replies: @everyday feminist

  36. The world will stand in debt to the man who devises a 12-step program for kicking the hyena habit.

  37. When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36843769

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).'

    Africa has so many STDs that you can get AIDS from just sitting on a public toilet there to do a number 2.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  38. Yeah but how do you know if you are getting the correct hyenas that actually can detect mental illness? Is the WHO monitoring this? Can some type of certification system be implemented? What am I saying, it’s a 3rd world country, they’d probably just cheat anyway…

  39. sometimes a heyena is just a heyena…. Hab Frued

  40. Whites are racist because they are allowing Somalians to harm black baby bodies

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @grapesoda

    In their own country too, how shameful for Euro people to use their evil, supernatural powers like that.

    , @Big Bill
    @grapesoda

    You jest, but the time is coming, big time. The only problem is that you, as a taxpayer, are going be charged.

    Everyone in the Twin Cities knows that African immigrant women chop their daughters genitals off: police, schools, clinics, and hospitals, doctors, nurses, cops, teachers and administrators. It is a dirty little secret up there.

    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Njguy73

  41. And the parents locking their children in a room with a rabid hyena are thought to be the sane ones.

  42. I wonder if you could rent a hyena in Minneapolis to address household mental illness issues. Who knows? It might end up being cheaper than Prozac.

  43. If a small dose of hyena does a little good, would a big dose of lion do even better?

  44. I noticed that “Doctor” Hab dyes his beard orange: https://www.unz.com/isteve/just-for-muslims/

  45. @SFG
    Bit of signal boosting, not sure if this has already been picked up elsewhere but worth bringing to people's attention:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/clinton-immigration-nabj-nahj/494783/

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jefferson

    It doesn’t matter if Trump can’t find a way to turn the media’s apoplexy to his advantage.

    In a circumstance where the media is going to twist your words or outright lie about what you say (Babygate), it seems like the way to deal with it is to make sure your comments are confined to issues, like the opponent’s corruption, that you want the public to keep thinking about. (For example, Russianhackgate was not so bad for Trump.)

    Unfortunately, Trump lacks the intuition or discipline to do this. He makes unforced errors (Curielgate and Plagiarismgate) and takes the other side’s bait (Khangate).

    The election is his to lose. All he has to do is make it a referendum on Bill and Hillary rather than a referendum on Trump, but he’s not doing it.

    The only interest this article has is to let us know that the Democrats are going to naturalize all the illegals as fast as possible when Hillary wins. Great. Who’s going to stop her? Ryan? Ha!

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

  46. @ATX Hipster

    families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal... Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process

     

    Life is an IQ test.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Bill B., @415 reasons

    OT: did anyone else get really sad when they saw this Coke commercial they played in the Olympics?

    It seems like a warning from our dystopian polyglot future.

    Someone needs to tell those ad executives that the story of the Tower of Babel wasn’t supposed to be positive.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    @415 reasons

    Sorry forgot the link

    http://www.complex.com/life/2016/08/coca-cola-ad-rio-olympics-upsetting-english-only

    , @Brutusale
    @415 reasons

    I just saw it as marketing to the correct customer. Do white people with measurable IQs drink colored sugar water anymore?

    Replies: @Bleuteaux

  47. @415 reasons
    @ATX Hipster

    OT: did anyone else get really sad when they saw this Coke commercial they played in the Olympics?

    It seems like a warning from our dystopian polyglot future.

    Someone needs to tell those ad executives that the story of the Tower of Babel wasn't supposed to be positive.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Brutusale

  48. I once travelled to Gunnar Myrdal’s kommun in the Swedish heartland. More than half a century after the hugely influential An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy, someone thought it would be a good idea to settle a few Africans in the area. Despite magnanimous hosts and generous welfare, the blacks in the area were low in status. Fail.

    Black Lives Matter Sweden.

    Above Gunnar Myrdal’s desk in Stockholm hung a framed citation from Lincoln: ”To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” Good advice for the modern Swedish male.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Tacitus2016

    "Black Lives Matter Sweden."

    Black immigrants are complaining about White supremacy in Sweden, when Swedes are the least racist Whites on the planet.

    Archie Bunker types make up 0.1% of Indigenous
    Swedes.

    Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.

    Replies: @Cryptogenic, @Tacitus2016

  49. Go ahead and laugh, the NCCIH has probably already received federal funding to prove hyena therapy effective via a zero-blind meta-analysis at a p-value of 0.99.

  50. @Jack D
    It is wrong to treat Zakaria Bulhan with Western medicine. He needs to be treated in a culturally appropriate way. Zakaria needs and deserves the hyena treatment in order to drive out the evil spirits that are haunting him. Giving him the hyena treatment is the least we can do for him. Somali lives matter!

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Hyenas are intended for relatively mild personality disorders. For persons with Zakaria Bulhna’s issues more radical treatment with a leopard or lion is indicated.

  51. @Paul Mendez
    OT:

    Anyone know what happened to Ann Barnhardt's blog?

    Who got to her first? ISIS or the US government?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Oaklanders, @SteveRogers42

    I think they put her in a room with a hyena. Need more hyenas.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Anonymous

    "We're gonna need a bigger hyena"

    ("Hyena" is also the name given to the Malawian males who get the (paid) job of deflowering Malawian females)

    Replies: @Anonymous

  52. … “There is a belief in my country that hyenas can see everything including the evil spirits people think cause mental illness,” says Hab. “So in Mogadishu, you will find hyenas that have been brought from the bush and families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal.”

    The expensive treatment – more than the average annual wage – is as brutal as it sounds. By clawing and biting at the patient, the hyena is thought to force the evil spirit out. Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process. …

    It’s funny how often black African beliefs turn toward the savage. Course lots of folks act as if these beliefs are somehow imposed on blacks.

  53. I don’t know. I’m old enough to remember when people took their mentally ill people to shamans wearing turtlenecks who promised to talk the insane out of being insane. After all, everyone knew that biology had nothing to do mental illness. It was childhood trauma that led to insanity. Heck, our schools still use shamans. They send them in to talk the kid out of being sad for the death of a classmate.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  54. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    A nation of immigrants! So says Obama,who is NOT,he assures us,an immigrant.

  55. @SFG
    Bit of signal boosting, not sure if this has already been picked up elsewhere but worth bringing to people's attention:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/clinton-immigration-nabj-nahj/494783/

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jefferson

    “Bit of signal boosting, not sure if this has already been picked up elsewhere but worth bringing to people’s attention”

    Hildabeast tells a group of African American journalists that America needs comprehensive immigration reform. No talk about making it easier and cheaper for African Americans living in poverty to go to trade school.

    Comprehensive immigration reform is the solution to decrease the high poverty rate in the African American community.

  56. @Anonymous
    @Paul Mendez

    I think they put her in a room with a hyena. Need more hyenas.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    “We’re gonna need a bigger hyena”

    (“Hyena” is also the name given to the Malawian males who get the (paid) job of deflowering Malawian females)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Nice work-how do I get that gig?? I don't have any STDs so I can do it with a clear conscience!

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  57. Pat Casey says:

    In defense of the folk, I’m pretty sure any belief as severely provocative as this one has some truth if not worth testing at least worth pondering. Unless, that is, this belief about hyenas started yesterday. ie, I don’t think it would still be around if it didn’t work well enough to become a live tradition, survival of the fittest and such. And really the reason isn’t hard to imagine. We know they can smell fear but more particularly human emotions emit an electric frequency that variably vibrates which dogs can also sense. Hyenas can probably do it too. So when they sense human psychosis they probably start acting frightening, because they are sensing unusual emotions in an unusual situation, and if the patient makes it out alive his gratitude that the treatment is over cures him. For it is old wisdom of the folk indeed that gratitude defeats doubt, doubt the state of an unsound mind.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Pat Casey

    Pat, Interesting thoughts on the subject, but in the USA therapy animals are warm and friendly and extremely docile, a soothing presence, as opposed to a deadly threat. My daughter is a psychologist, yes sometimes the apple falls far from the tree, but she was appalled by this procedure and thought I was pulling her leg. Remember, in liberal colleges, PC thought trumps commenting on bizarre cultural practices.

  58. Dirk Dagger [AKA "That\'s Not Who We Are"] says:

    Very Beuysian.

  59. @dfordoom
    Mind you hyena therapy is no more unscientific than most of psychiatry. And the hyenas might well cause fewer damaging long-term side effects than psychiatric drugs like SSRIs.

    Replies: @Kyle

    I bet it works just as well. I might feel depressed, but maybe I should just shut up and become a productive member of society lest my family lock me in a room with an archaic carnivora beast again.

  60. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    People often adopt strange customs that are merely disguises for how they really want to behave if they could get away with it. For example, locking up an insane relative with a hyena is a way of trying to murder someone whose care is a heavy burden on you without bringing down the onus of the law on your head. And if the insane relative just ends up being mauled, it’s a socially acceptable way of letting out the family’s rage against what may be an annoying, obnoxious, and hyperaggressive family member with no control over himself without getting into trouble for beating up the victim themselves.

    As for the ‘hyena’ who is hired in rape girls, in a culture which believes that women should be subservient to males, arranged rape is one way of achieving this. The result is a girl who becomes too scared and traumatized to stand up for herself, and she will become a dutiful child too downtrodden to resist an arranged marriage or any other future plans that her parents intent to impose on her against her will.

    There’s a cold-blooded logic to all this.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Anon

    Very true. It happens here too — look at the (relatively) recently-discovered diagnosis of "sudden infant death syndrome," a condition about which nothing is known other than everything appears exactly as it would if the baby had been smothered.

    The avoidance of this particular unpleasant truth has a long history; well into the 19th and even 20th centuries, much of Europe was plagued by baby-snatching witches and Fair Folk.

    Replies: @Pat Casey

    , @International Jew
    @Anon

    I don't buy it. You'd need not only to wish you were rid of that family member, but to wish him to die a terrifying and painful death. As in the hyena eating his liver while he was still alive.

  61. @Bill B.
    @ATX Hipster


    Life is an IQ test.
     
    Oh I don't know.

    I can think of several TV pundits and politicians who would benefit from Hyena Night.

    It might knock the smugness off Bill Maher for a start.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ATX Hipster, @SteveRogers42

    Hah!

  62. @Anonymous
    When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas - men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).

    www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36843769

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).’

    Africa has so many STDs that you can get AIDS from just sitting on a public toilet there to do a number 2.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jefferson

    Jeff, Not so sure about sitting on a toilet, but drinking from one could be detrimental to your health.

  63. @everyday feminist
    I remember a day after the Afghan axe attack in Germany, I was listening to BBC world news on NPR (it's good for the humors-- I'm too phlegmatic, need more yellow bile) and the announcer says something to the effect of "Afghan axe wielder was known to suffer from depression... are western nations doing enough for refugees' mental health?"

    I had a good laugh with my colleague when I got to my desk, but I guess it's the next thing: Ritalin for refugees. Go long Pfizer, short the euro...

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Perspective

    “I’m too phlegmatic, need more yellow bile) and the announcer says something to the effect of “Afghan axe wielder was known to suffer from depression… are western nations doing enough for refugees’ mental health?””

    The usual NPR formulation would be: “Afghan with an axe runs amok on train – axe-wielding Afghans hit hardest.”

  64. @grapesoda
    Whites are racist because they are allowing Somalians to harm black baby bodies

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Big Bill

    In their own country too, how shameful for Euro people to use their evil, supernatural powers like that.

  65. How long before we hear stories on NPR about the need to increase “access to hyenas”.

  66. @The Alarmist
    And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won't do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.

    Replies: @Paul Yarbles, @cipher, @Paul Yarbles

    And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won’t do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.

    For some reason your comment immediately brought to mind this…

    The white man felt no more pain than any of the other pigs in the line. Stunned, hoisted, slaughtered … And hanging from his hook, between two blood-drenched hogs, he started into production. As he moved along through each successive phase, growing less and less like man and more like pork, he caused a certain amount of interest, but no special disgust. They had seen such things before, after all. At market, in the Congo. (Except, that is, for a few white women, who promptly took to their heels, or swooned dead away. As for the foremen, they just turned and ran. They had read the blank looks on the faces of their slaves, and had gotten the message.) The ThirdWorld workers went on with their jobs, conscientious as could be, even unto the final labeling of the tins where the white man’s remains ended up as pâté. Perhaps we even ate some of him ourselves.

  67. @The Alarmist
    And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won't do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.

    Replies: @Paul Yarbles, @cipher, @Paul Yarbles

    The Alarmist,

    Who worked in the meat packing plants prior to the arrival of Somalis, Mexicans, Central Americans and Pacific Islanders?

    What are they and their descendants working on today?

    Slaughterhouse work used to be a rung-on-the-ladder job. A way to gain skills and then move on to more challenging – e.g., value added – work.

    That rung and many like it, even the ladder itself, are disappearing fast.

    What do you propose as its replacement?

    Where is your comprehensive program for its construction and maintenance?

    What steps have you taken to implement it?

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @cipher

    Actually, slaughterhouse work was a career more often than not for American workers when Americans did it. It paid a relatively high income for the crummy towns like Emporia, KS, where the slaughterhouses were located-maybe $10-13 an hour when McD's paid $3.35 in the eighties-and though some younger workers did move on from there, usually that was where you stayed unless you moved out of town. Working in a slaughterhouse didn't give you too many skills besides cutting up animals.

    Occasionally people moved up from the line into supervisory jobs, where they would retire out from usually. But it was not an entry job for kids-there were more applicants than jobs and they usually tried to hire people with kids they had to support. And also, kids usually did not want to work in a slaughterhouse. Nobody particularly wanted to work in one, they did it because they had a family they needed to support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @athEIst, @cipher

  68. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    “A quick Google search does not turn up much.”
    No, it won’t… bad news about settlements of “refugees” and illegal immigrants, like the measles and drug-resistant TB outbreaks in the area around these settlements, is being suppressed.
    A lot like the press in Merkel’s Germany, unfortunately.

    I had always thought that American reporters would tend to investigate, expose and attack when a scandal like this presents itself, just out of sheer ambition and “careerism”, if there is such a word.

    Looks like the big money is in cooperating with the Establishment these days.
    This does not bode well for the future of this country.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @2Mintzin1

    Careerism is still very much the thing. Reporting the wrong type of scandal will sink your career, assuming the organ you write for will even allow it to go out, so avoiding the wrong stories is just as big a part of advancing your career as getting the big acceptable stories.

  69. @Chrisnonymous
    @SFG

    It doesn't matter if Trump can't find a way to turn the media's apoplexy to his advantage.

    In a circumstance where the media is going to twist your words or outright lie about what you say (Babygate), it seems like the way to deal with it is to make sure your comments are confined to issues, like the opponent's corruption, that you want the public to keep thinking about. (For example, Russianhackgate was not so bad for Trump.)

    Unfortunately, Trump lacks the intuition or discipline to do this. He makes unforced errors (Curielgate and Plagiarismgate) and takes the other side's bait (Khangate).

    The election is his to lose. All he has to do is make it a referendum on Bill and Hillary rather than a referendum on Trump, but he's not doing it.

    The only interest this article has is to let us know that the Democrats are going to naturalize all the illegals as fast as possible when Hillary wins. Great. Who's going to stop her? Ryan? Ha!

    Replies: @SFG

    I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he’s the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election…and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn’t have to be any more successful than Obama was. You’re still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @SFG

    SFG


    If you feel you need to be protected by young Pakistani Muslim Males....may I suggest that you pack up and move to Muslim Pakistan...From what I have heard, the Paksitani Military is 10o percent Young Pakistani Muslim Male.

    Replies: @Karl

    , @Johan Schmidt
    @SFG


    (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)
     
    Explain to me in your own words, without checking elsewhere, what Trump said that was so wrong.
    , @yowza
    @SFG


    I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)
     
    Khan, if you'd bother to have a vague idea of what you're talking about, is a long-time Sharia law activist, Visa abuse enabler for Sharia Muslims to the US, and overall shitshow.

    Here's one of his many published papers highlighting his devotion to Sharia law:

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/320016152/Khizr-Khan-Juristic-Classification-Islamic-Law

    It may interest you to know that Sharia Law is antithetical to the Constitution of the United States. If anyone needs a hyena primer on the Constitution, it's that nasty little Muslim blob, and his fat, brainless, subservient wife.

    Khan is a paid shill for the Saudis, and spent all his time in Saudi Arabia, again advocating for Sharia law. Ironically, the reason this festering Muslim toad's son is dead is because of devotees to Sharia law. They wanted his apostate son dead, and they killed him.

    Good rule of thumb for you, if not looking like a stupid asshole is of any interest to you, might be to suspect the motives of immigrants taking a political stance until fully vetted. Cancers are better than even they're lying.

    In any case under the circumstances, your claim that Trump "whaled" on Saudi-Clinton sock puppet, and qualified piece of shit Khan, is laughable.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Kyle

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @SFG

    [Hillary] doesn’t have to be any more successful than Obama was.

    But Obama got a LOT of Third Worlders into this country. A LOT. We're already past the tipping point, but let's not accelerate the process.

    , @Divine Right
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    One of the things that disturbs me most about the US is the cult of military worship that pervades the country. Trump didn't pick some family out at random and attack them, he rightfully (but crudely) responded to a man who exploited his son's death in order to shame him on behalf of the warmonger who helped kill him - and will help kill many more in her future wars. Apparently, if you have any connection to the military, you are above criticism, even if you invite it by unfairly attacking someone else first.

    Replies: @L Woods

    , @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    , @SteveRogers42
    @SFG

    Aside from all of the facts that have been dug up about this greasy Khan artist, the most important thing for the election is the "optics" of the situation.

    Picture yourself as a "Shy Trump Voter" or one of the great undecided electorate that seldom votes because there's no one who speaks for you. You see a weird-looking 7-11 clerk with an accent like Apu and a headscarfed senior wife who looks like Jabba the Hutt -- and this alien is waving the Constitution around and lecturing all of us about his transcendent superiority.

    Are Joe and Jane Sixpack now more or less likely, on an instinctual gut level, to vote for Trump?

    I don't think Khan plays in Peoria.

    , @SFG
    @SFG

    I can't respond to everyone, so I will admit that, yes, Khan's dad was a Muslim activist and, yes, they still look 'foreign'. And, of course, a connection to the military doesn't make you above criticism. I just think he fell into the trap the Democrats laid, and he's been trailing in the polls lately (though some of this may be Hill's convention bounce). I'm wrong. It happens. ;)

  70. I bet Somali insanity treatments are just east effective as Merk’s.

  71. @Paul Mendez
    OT:

    Anyone know what happened to Ann Barnhardt's blog?

    Who got to her first? ISIS or the US government?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Oaklanders, @SteveRogers42

    Off topic again http://www.barnhardt.biz

  72. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    SFG

    If you feel you need to be protected by young Pakistani Muslim Males….may I suggest that you pack up and move to Muslim Pakistan…From what I have heard, the Paksitani Military is 10o percent Young Pakistani Muslim Male.

    • Replies: @Karl
    @War for Blair Mountain

    > the Paksitani Military is 10o percent Young Pakistani Muslim Male

    I know no one here will believe this, but the military is one of the best ways for a Pakistani girl to move up to a middle-class life.

    Westerners seem to know more about the moons of Pluto than about Lahore.

  73. Never heard of that one..you live and learn I guess.

    Somalis in the US have a high rate of childhood autism.

    I think there is a higher than average level of childhood developmental disorders and mental illness in East Africa. The communities try to cope with the best they can with their limited resources and limited knowledge. Tying up the mentally ill or disabled in the backyard is common in the very poor third world because there are no alternatives.

    If they are not aggressive and not able to harm themselves than usually it’s grandma’s job to look after them. And so she goes from shaman to shaman dragging the poor child along looking for a cure..holy water, holy smoke, holy chanting ..for the exorcist to get the “demon” to leave.

    An incredibly ignorant way third world people deal with mentally illness is encouraging the men to get married and have children (sigh) thinking that “settling down” will do them some good. I know this is true in the christian and muslim cultures in east Africa, and is probably true in all backward traditional communities around the globe.

    Consider the Tunisian guy who mowed down the French in Nice. His parents were actually modern and educated enough to get him pyschiatric treatment-I give them credit for that. But they had no qualms arranging for his marriage to his cousin in France even though they knew was a violent psycho since he was a child.

    • Replies: @EvolutionistX
    @Merema

    The cousin marriage is probably a big reason why so many of these kids have mental disorders.

  74. @SFG
    I wonder if this originates in a scam run by the shamans (who would have had to be great BS artists) in tribal times. Kid acting up? No problem, the hyena will claw the evil spirits out...wait, he's started behaving!

    Replies: @Big Bill, @SteveRogers42

    Nice!

  75. WHO estimates that one in three Somalis either is or has been affected by mental illness, compared to a global average of one in 10. In parts of the country, where the population has been the most psychologically scarred from decades of conflict, the rate is even higher.

    Natural selection has to do with reproductive success. Who’s going to succeed in that environment, I wonder?

    Somalis are doubly blessed: They come from the religion of peace, and the race of peace.

    We can’t import enough of them.

  76. @grapesoda
    Whites are racist because they are allowing Somalians to harm black baby bodies

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Big Bill

    You jest, but the time is coming, big time. The only problem is that you, as a taxpayer, are going be charged.

    Everyone in the Twin Cities knows that African immigrant women chop their daughters genitals off: police, schools, clinics, and hospitals, doctors, nurses, cops, teachers and administrators. It is a dirty little secret up there.

    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Big Bill

    It can't come soon enough.

    , @Njguy73
    @Big Bill


    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.
     
    Spotlight II: The Hacking

    Coming December 2022.
  77. Here’s a new title for Steve…

    Afghanistan: “Where Little Grils Are Used to Religious Leader Pedophelia”

    http://observers.france24.com/en/20160804-afghanistan-underage-girl-sold-marriage

  78. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    Explain to me in your own words, without checking elsewhere, what Trump said that was so wrong.

  79. When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).

    It can be tough to keep the sub-Saharan barbarities straight. Maybe we can use something like the Dewey Decimal System to keep it all sorted.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    @Svigor

    Ah, yes, the Dewey Diversity System. No doubt a liberal educator is already working on just that, and in the process using Occam's butterknife to explain away the foolishness. If it's benign then it's something we must acknowledge as a beautiful aspect of their unique culture, or, if its dangerous (like locking a small child in a room with a dangerous predator), as the fault of white men somehow.

    Of course, it would be a lot easier we all could just agree that sub-saharan Africa is a hellhole that we have no desire to visit, much less import next door to us.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Svigor

    Maybe P.J. O'Rourke could update his classic National Lampoon article:

    http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/Extras/foreigners/01.jpg

  80. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Anonymous

    "We're gonna need a bigger hyena"

    ("Hyena" is also the name given to the Malawian males who get the (paid) job of deflowering Malawian females)

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Nice work-how do I get that gig?? I don’t have any STDs so I can do it with a clear conscience!

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    So you want to rape children.
    That tells us everything we need to know about you.

  81. Here in the West the mentally ill are forced en masse into a cage to be harangued by a professional reeducation Diversityenas.

    Or, in our “own” homes, we just watch TV to see no end of Imminvader Sob & Success & Enrichment stories and anti-White/White Guilt propaganda, all liberally interspersed with Multilingual-Multiracial-Multiculti Coca-Cola spots.

  82. @Danindc
    "families will pay £350 ($560) to have their loved one locked in the room overnight with the animal… Patients, including young children, have been known to die during the process"

    How did you make so much money in Somalia? Well, it's complicated.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @International Jew

    How did you make so much money in Somalia?

    Maybe hyenatherapy is covered by their insurance.

  83. Hyenas Work Best in Advertising For Somalian Mental Health Projects – If Any Doubts, Study The Isteve Blog From August The 6th, 2016 – –

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24539989

    – – This above is the source of the Hyena-Story – and everybody who can read will find a few hints in it, that neither the author of the BBC piece nor the African psychiatrist Dr. Hab do really claim that there’s more to the Somalian hyenas on BBC World News then this: Being a good story!

    African Urban Legend beats western fools (ipse dixit) by miles and miles!

    It took me a bike-ride at the perfect summer lake, I have to admit, but finally it clicked!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dieter Kief

    I had some of the suspicions: But here's a Foreign Policy article about hyena-care in Somalia that predates the BBC article by 6 weeks:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/09/06/crazy-town/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  84. Since female hyenas have a protopenis and no external vagina, really they would be great for chewing the transphobia out of all the hated cishets.

  85. @whorefinder
    So basically 23 years ago we invaded Somalia because it was 3rd world heckhole of misery, depression, violence, disease, famine, and corruption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_%281993%29

    Books and movies came out depicting how awful life was there.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down_%28book%29)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down_%28film%29

    Decades later it was no different; the residents had taken up piracy on the open seas, committing atrocities along the way.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Alabama_hijacking

    A movie got made about that as well.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Phillips_%28film%29

    And now, in 2016, we're supposed to pretend these folks will fit right into a first-world country and not be a problem.

    Seriously, smh.

    I've toyed with the idea of researching how the mass Irish immigration of the 1840s onwards in our nation--and later the late 19th Century Southern and Eastern European immigration---turned once-livable cities into heckholes of murder, violence, and corruption. It would sting to those of us (including myself) with roots in that immigration, but it would be necessary to show that those immigrants did not seamlessly integrate and become first-worlders, but remained and brought with them 2nd and third world problems.

    Heck, the history of the Five Points alone is enough to chill one's blood about the "greatness" of mass immigration from the 2nd and 3rd world--at least 70 years of filth:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points,_Manhattan

    Thee romanticization of the American Mafia---with its roots in Italian and Jewish street gangs, and stretching back to Irish-American street gangs (the Five Families can be traced to Irish street gangs whose territory they took over)----should be turned on its head: the mass importation of those groups added a shnikey-load of murder and crime that has lasted to this day. Do we really want even more of that?

    Replies: @MJMD

    I’ve toyed with the idea of researching how the mass Irish immigration of the 1840s onwards in our nation–and later the late 19th Century Southern and Eastern European immigration—turned once-livable cities into heckholes of murder, violence, and corruption.

    That’s pretty much openly acknowledged by most serious historians, whorefinder. William J. Stuntz’s “The Collapse of American Criminal Justice” faithfully documents how 19th century mass immigration was responsible for one of the two largest crime waves in American history (the other was the result of the Great Migration). Or, better yet, read George Orwell, whose view was that mass immigration was openly used by America’s elites as a battering ram against the country’s original Republican values, turning the USA from a nation of mostly Protestant smallholders into a playground for industrial capitalists.

    But it was a trade: America moved from the periphery of world affairs to become a global power. Mass immigration, at least in its early stages, was also a battering ram against the South in the Civil War, and I wouldn’t argue that the triumph of plantation values would have been markedly superior to the ascendancy of industrial capitalism. Nor, for that matter, would the triumph of Germany’s administrative state in the early 20th century (any version, really) have been an improvement over the one sadly erected by Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Moreover, without mass immigration from Europe the Great Migration might simply have been greater, with fewer African Americans concentrated in the South and just as much attendant crime and misery as they spread throughout the rest of the country. Blacks would have made up the majority of the proletariat, and, instead of enjoying working conditions closer to those afforded white immigrants, might have given racist owners an excuse to make life even worse for labour. America might have become a northern Brazil

    So diversity did bring strength. The question, as always, is whose strength.

  86. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    Khan, if you’d bother to have a vague idea of what you’re talking about, is a long-time Sharia law activist, Visa abuse enabler for Sharia Muslims to the US, and overall shitshow.

    Here’s one of his many published papers highlighting his devotion to Sharia law:

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/320016152/Khizr-Khan-Juristic-Classification-Islamic-Law

    It may interest you to know that Sharia Law is antithetical to the Constitution of the United States. If anyone needs a hyena primer on the Constitution, it’s that nasty little Muslim blob, and his fat, brainless, subservient wife.

    Khan is a paid shill for the Saudis, and spent all his time in Saudi Arabia, again advocating for Sharia law. Ironically, the reason this festering Muslim toad’s son is dead is because of devotees to Sharia law. They wanted his apostate son dead, and they killed him.

    Good rule of thumb for you, if not looking like a stupid asshole is of any interest to you, might be to suspect the motives of immigrants taking a political stance until fully vetted. Cancers are better than even they’re lying.

    In any case under the circumstances, your claim that Trump “whaled” on Saudi-Clinton sock puppet, and qualified piece of shit Khan, is laughable.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @yowza

    Dammit, son, you are on a roll! But you left out a key point. Khan does not just follow Sharia law, he is a Shari law Supremacist.

    In his scholarly Saudi writings Khan explicitly says that Sharia law trumps all other law developed in the last 1300 years! Yet he waves around a Constitution and kvells about the Founding Fathers!

    Khan, like countless other subversives, has discovered the truth: waving muh Constitution is Kryptonite to the American mind. Just talk "freedom", "liberty", "the American Way", wave around a "Constitution", and cuckservative chumps will collapse.

    Now that the Khan facts are coming out, is it any wonder the Dems and MSM have gagged him with complete radio silence?

    , @Kyle
    @yowza

    Hyena primer? Is that where you're locked in a room with the beast an not allowed out until you finish reading your assignment?

  87. Sure, it’s funny now. Wait until the cultural enrichers start killing albinos in Europe and the US for their magical body parts.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @Tom-in-VA

    What's the over-under for the date of the first verified incident?

    Replies: @snorlax

  88. Meanwhile here in the States, Dems have raised millions of dollars to elect Cacklepants as Hyena-in-Chief.

    But Somalis are the crazy ones.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Kylie

    I doubt whether they're much bothered whether she's elected, as long as she takes office.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Kylie

    See anon's comment about female hyena's plumbing. This is uncanny!

  89. @Kylie
    Meanwhile here in the States, Dems have raised millions of dollars to elect Cacklepants as Hyena-in-Chief.

    But Somalis are the crazy ones.

    Replies: @dearieme, @SteveRogers42

    I doubt whether they’re much bothered whether she’s elected, as long as she takes office.

    • Agree: Kylie
  90. Surely they’re having a laugh!

    Get it? Hyenas, laugh?

    Screw all of y’all!

    • LOL: Cryptogenic
  91. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    A friend has one of the church idiots involved in the project on his FB page, and it’s kumbaya all the way down. My nephew, on the ground in college in Burlington, says the story, to be judicious, is evolving, and not in a good way.

    The nephew feels it will be self-correcting, though, as a lot of the stale pales in the surrounding area are armed to the teeth and of a libertarian bent.

  92. @everyday feminist
    I remember a day after the Afghan axe attack in Germany, I was listening to BBC world news on NPR (it's good for the humors-- I'm too phlegmatic, need more yellow bile) and the announcer says something to the effect of "Afghan axe wielder was known to suffer from depression... are western nations doing enough for refugees' mental health?"

    I had a good laugh with my colleague when I got to my desk, but I guess it's the next thing: Ritalin for refugees. Go long Pfizer, short the euro...

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Perspective

    There was a “machete attack” on two (women) police officers in Belgium today, the attacker – who happened to be holding the machete at the time – shouted allahu akbar during the assault. I wonder if the attacker was suffering from mental illness as a result of being bullied in school. He’s very quiet and shy too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726916/Two-Belgian-policemen-attacked-machete-wielding-assailant-shouting-Arabic.html#comments

    • Replies: @everyday feminist
    @Perspective

    Maprotiline for machete-wielders!
    (sorry, grasping at straws here...)

  93. Hillary! attacked a Gold Star mother, one of the mothers of the Benghazi dead. No big deal there. Trump responds to attacks on him by a Sharia-loving shyster Pakistani lawyer with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, Pakistans ISIS, the Saudi Govt, and who was paid $375K large by the Clinton Foundation and suddenly he’s an evil bigot and drops 14 points overnight.

    God save us from Nice White Ladies.

    Trump’s only strength is being the funny WWE heel. He needed to get out there and start publicizing this stuff. Like Somalis lock up their many, many crazies with hyenas. That makes even the Nicest Nice White Lady and their male enablers like Paul Ryan think “hey Trump’s got something, and he’s funny.”

    There is a biological reason humor is so effective, it produces social dominance and by ridiculing others produces social inferiority. The terrain Trump vs. Media/Hillary are fighting over is social dominance. Most voters neither know nor care sadly about Hillary’s plan to flood the US with 100 million Third worlders in just a few years, and hundreds of millions more thereafter.

    That’s bad but people won’t change. Instead Trump abandoned his WWE funny heel Chris Jericho persona and became Casper Milquetoast. Meekly and obediently doing Paul Ryan’s and John McCain’s bidding while they continue to display their loathing. Its stupid but his kids don’t know anything but Media dominance and crave like Meghan McCain media acceptance more than they do their father’s power as President.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Whiskey

    A minor quibble, but Pat Smith is not a Gold Star mother.

  94. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    [Hillary] doesn’t have to be any more successful than Obama was.

    But Obama got a LOT of Third Worlders into this country. A LOT. We’re already past the tipping point, but let’s not accelerate the process.

  95. @415 reasons
    @ATX Hipster

    OT: did anyone else get really sad when they saw this Coke commercial they played in the Olympics?

    It seems like a warning from our dystopian polyglot future.

    Someone needs to tell those ad executives that the story of the Tower of Babel wasn't supposed to be positive.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Brutusale

    I just saw it as marketing to the correct customer. Do white people with measurable IQs drink colored sugar water anymore?

    • Replies: @Bleuteaux
    @Brutusale

    Yes. In my ugly corner of Corporate America, Mountain Dew has replaced the morning coffee. For something like 50% of employees.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Brutusale

  96. Ricky Bobby in Talladega Nights only had to get in a Chevy with a cougar. That shows how western civilization has been tamed with the evil spirits driven away.

    Semi-OT but animal related:
    When will Frosted Flakes change their mascot from Tony the Tiger to something more inclusive and diverse?

    Shouldn’t animals of other persuasions get their 15 minutes of fame on the box?

    Isn’t showing a tiger a micro-aggression against all endangered species?

    What about the rights of those Indian villagers mourning the loss of loved ones to rogue tigers?

    Do they get cereal boxes showing Desi the Hunter?

  97. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    “I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)”

    One of the things that disturbs me most about the US is the cult of military worship that pervades the country. Trump didn’t pick some family out at random and attack them, he rightfully (but crudely) responded to a man who exploited his son’s death in order to shame him on behalf of the warmonger who helped kill him – and will help kill many more in her future wars. Apparently, if you have any connection to the military, you are above criticism, even if you invite it by unfairly attacking someone else first.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Divine Right

    It's true. Anyone who's had any experience with today's military knows 90% of it is little more than a uniformed DMV.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux

  98. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    “I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)”

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive – for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us – the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law – for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain’s Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton’s Bapu Bhat stand-in (“Donald Trump is a very bad man…..a very, very bad man!”) shouldn’t get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this “Gold Star Family” stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like “The Homeland”, it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don’t live in the “Starship Troopers” universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn’t mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn’t the country I was born in.

    • Agree: Jefferson
    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Mr. Anon

    https://www.army.mil/goldstar/

    The term Gold Star family is a modern reference that comes from the Service Flag. These flags/banners were first flown by families during World War I. The flag included a blue star for every immediate family member serving in the armed forces of the United States, during any period of war or hostilities in which the armed forces of the United States were engaged. If that loved one died, the blue star was replaced by a gold star. This allowed members of the community to know the price that the family had paid in the cause of freedom.

    The United States began observing Gold Star Mothers Day on the last Sunday of September, in 1936. The Gold Star Wives was formed before the end of World War II. The Gold Star Lapel Button was established in August 1947.

    http://goldstarmoms.com/

    American Gold Star Mothers, Inc. We are an organization of mothers who have lost a son or daughter in the service of our country. We are a Veterans Service Organization, established in 1928 and chartered by the United States Congress in 1984. American Gold Star Mothers continue to honor our sons and daughters through service -- service to veterans and patriotic events

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Jefferson
    @Mr. Anon

    If a politically incorrect list came out of the top 10 worst Muslim ethnic groups in the world, Pakis would definitely make the cut if not top the list at number 1.

    Trying to find a Paki who respects White Western culture is like trying to find a 6 foot 5 Guatemalan.

    , @Djinn Fizz
    @Mr. Anon

    The solemnity & profound patriotic self-love with which some Merkins utter the phrase "Gold Star Family" makes me yearn to suffer under the yoke of an historical, totalitarian dictatorship (pick one). At least their mischief was limited by the available technology.

    , @Paris Hanoi Hilton
    @Mr. Anon

    Growing up in the 1950s, I remember there was always a white Cadillac convertible or two with the WW2/Korean Police Action "Gold Star" parents in the Memorial Day/July 4th/Labor Day parades in my NYC inner suburban —mostly lumpen-bourgeois/ethnic white working class— hometown.

    Due somehow to a kozmik glitch a decade later, in '68-'69 I ended up as a grunt in Eye Corpse, toting an evil black assault rifle... and while our casualty rate was nothing compared to the previous World Wars, we generated a fair number of Gold Star families as well. But by then the term had completely disappeared from common use: not to mention the white convertables and the Memorial Day parades as well, more or less. No Gold Star Caddys for you pathological parents of psychotic baby killers!

    And now, somehow in the Khizr Khan case, the Gold Star meme is back in bizniz. WTF?

    Hilary may be beneath contempt in almost every respect but she's not notably stupid and her Inner Party cabal knew exactly what they were doing on this one. At least until somebody started Googling up Khizr, Esq's rather interesting backstory. Maybe the cabal ain't so bright either, given the incompetent vetting of this Hero of the US Constitution and his duly reticent Gold Star co-parent.

    , @Swizzle Stick
    @Mr. Anon

    I learned about "gold stars" and "blue stars" from this song in the '90's. It's called "Sullivan" by Caroline's spine about the five Sullivan brothers who died in the sinking of the USS Juneau in WWII.

    https://youtu.be/aFoVjFd_two

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_(song)

    , @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    A Gold Star mother refers to earlier wars this country has been in, like World Wars I and II. A Gold Star mother is a mother whose son (and now it would include daughter) has been killed in combat.

  99. Apparently, hyenas are ineffective as psychotherapy (proven by their continuing application by the unevolving), but are occasionally quite useful as fourth-trimester abortifacients. Are we truly all of the same species?

  100. “Ask your doctor if new Hyena ™ is right for you. . . ”

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @SGOTI

    Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature's answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children's chewables. Badoom.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Buffalo Joe

  101. @Dieter Kief
    Hyenas Work Best in Advertising For Somalian Mental Health Projects - If Any Doubts, Study The Isteve Blog From August The 6th, 2016 - -


    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24539989

    - - This above is the source of the Hyena-Story - and everybody who can read will find a few hints in it, that neither the author of the BBC piece nor the African psychiatrist Dr. Hab do really claim that there's more to the Somalian hyenas on BBC World News then this: Being a good story!

    African Urban Legend beats western fools (ipse dixit) by miles and miles!

    It took me a bike-ride at the perfect summer lake, I have to admit, but finally it clicked!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I had some of the suspicions: But here’s a Foreign Policy article about hyena-care in Somalia that predates the BBC article by 6 weeks:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/09/06/crazy-town/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And here's a 2011 Globe & Mail article that mentions Hyena Care:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/mentally-ill-are-stigmatized-misunderstood-and-shackled-in-somalia/article594345/

    The World Health Organization started an initiative around 2011 to get Somalis to stop chaining their insane relatives to trees. I suspect that is the source of most of the hyena stories.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc

  102. @Tacitus2016
    I once travelled to Gunnar Myrdal's kommun in the Swedish heartland. More than half a century after the hugely influential An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy, someone thought it would be a good idea to settle a few Africans in the area. Despite magnanimous hosts and generous welfare, the blacks in the area were low in status. Fail.

    Black Lives Matter Sweden.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TzvxXjXPQ&feature=share

    Above Gunnar Myrdal's desk in Stockholm hung a framed citation from Lincoln: ''To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.'' Good advice for the modern Swedish male.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Black Lives Matter Sweden.”

    Black immigrants are complaining about White supremacy in Sweden, when Swedes are the least racist Whites on the planet.

    Archie Bunker types make up 0.1% of Indigenous
    Swedes.

    Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.

    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    @Jefferson

    Remember, black hatred of whites flows upwards. It must be infuriating living around a bunch of good looking Swedes who pity you.

    , @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    "Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden." Yet they fail to thrive in Sweden like most other places, making a mockery of Myrdal's wildly optimistic sermons to America.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  103. @Steve Sailer
    @Dieter Kief

    I had some of the suspicions: But here's a Foreign Policy article about hyena-care in Somalia that predates the BBC article by 6 weeks:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/09/06/crazy-town/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    And here’s a 2011 Globe & Mail article that mentions Hyena Care:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/mentally-ill-are-stigmatized-misunderstood-and-shackled-in-somalia/article594345/

    The World Health Organization started an initiative around 2011 to get Somalis to stop chaining their insane relatives to trees. I suspect that is the source of most of the hyena stories.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, here's the October 2010 World Health Organization's "A Situation Analysis of Mental Health Care in Somalia:"

    ... Traditional healing practices should be taken into consideration for the development of any intervention related to mental health.
    There are many practices that can result in human rights violations, abuses and often injuries or death of the patients. In the Mental
    Health Department of Bosaso a woman was referred after having undergone a Mingis practice. Her clothes caught fire causing severe
    injuries to her and burning her shelter (August 2009). Even more dangerous and shocking is a practice reported to happen in South
    Central Zone by Abdurahman Ali Awale (Dr. Habeb), the national mental health focal point of the Ministry of Health of Somalia. Mentally
    challenged people, including children at early age, are locked in a hut for a whole night with hyenas. Those animals are believed to
    be able to eat (by biting the poor victim) the evil spirit possessing the mentally ill. This practice causes long lasting trauma, physical
    injuries and can even lead to death.

    http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2010_EN_736.pdf?ua=1
    [warning: large document, loads slowly]

    Now, maybe this is just a story made up by Dr. Hab, the radio pitchman for a chain of lunatic asylums, to promote his business.

    Replies: @Sean, @Dieter Kief

    , @Danindc
    @Steve Sailer

    Hyena care : "If you like your hyena you'll be able to keep your hyena"

  104. @SGOTI
    "Ask your doctor if new Hyena ™ is right for you. . . "

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature’s answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children’s chewables. Badoom.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    "Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature’s answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children’s chewables. Badoom."

    New Hyena is now available at Walgreens and CVS Pharmacy.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Bard, Shouldn't that be ...."chewable children?"

    Replies: @Kylie

  105. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    https://www.army.mil/goldstar/

    The term Gold Star family is a modern reference that comes from the Service Flag. These flags/banners were first flown by families during World War I. The flag included a blue star for every immediate family member serving in the armed forces of the United States, during any period of war or hostilities in which the armed forces of the United States were engaged. If that loved one died, the blue star was replaced by a gold star. This allowed members of the community to know the price that the family had paid in the cause of freedom.

    The United States began observing Gold Star Mothers Day on the last Sunday of September, in 1936. The Gold Star Wives was formed before the end of World War II. The Gold Star Lapel Button was established in August 1947.

    http://goldstarmoms.com/

    American Gold Star Mothers, Inc. We are an organization of mothers who have lost a son or daughter in the service of our country. We are a Veterans Service Organization, established in 1928 and chartered by the United States Congress in 1984. American Gold Star Mothers continue to honor our sons and daughters through service — service to veterans and patriotic events

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @CCZ

    Then it is strange that I never heard the term until last week.

    Replies: @CCZ, @2Mintzin1

  106. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And here's a 2011 Globe & Mail article that mentions Hyena Care:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/mentally-ill-are-stigmatized-misunderstood-and-shackled-in-somalia/article594345/

    The World Health Organization started an initiative around 2011 to get Somalis to stop chaining their insane relatives to trees. I suspect that is the source of most of the hyena stories.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc

    Yes, here’s the October 2010 World Health Organization’s “A Situation Analysis of Mental Health Care in Somalia:”

    … Traditional healing practices should be taken into consideration for the development of any intervention related to mental health.
    There are many practices that can result in human rights violations, abuses and often injuries or death of the patients. In the Mental
    Health Department of Bosaso a woman was referred after having undergone a Mingis practice. Her clothes caught fire causing severe
    injuries to her and burning her shelter (August 2009). Even more dangerous and shocking is a practice reported to happen in South
    Central Zone by Abdurahman Ali Awale (Dr. Habeb), the national mental health focal point of the Ministry of Health of Somalia. Mentally
    challenged people, including children at early age, are locked in a hut for a whole night with hyenas. Those animals are believed to
    be able to eat (by biting the poor victim) the evil spirit possessing the mentally ill. This practice causes long lasting trauma, physical
    injuries and can even lead to death.

    http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2010_EN_736.pdf?ua=1
    [warning: large document, loads slowly]

    Now, maybe this is just a story made up by Dr. Hab, the radio pitchman for a chain of lunatic asylums, to promote his business.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Steve Sailer

    RD Laing recounted how one old doctor treated annoying patients with an injection of 10cc of turpentine in the buttocks, which gave them a raging fever. He also had experience of the incredibly dangerous insulin shock therapy for psychosis (once state of the art treatment) . Electro shock is another one. Is being bitten by a wild animal so very different? It is a shock, and might work more often than anything else available in a dirt poor country.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Steve Sailer

    A) Hyenas Only Laugh For Fun (Roger Chapman & The Shortlist)

    This afternoon I talked to a friend, who writes fiction. I told him about the hyenas-cure and we laughed and shook our heads, but his reaction lacked something, which made me think.
    This was a horrible story, yeah, but it didn't feel - hmm: It didn't feel good.

    Same thing when I posted my first post about it here on the blog; just a few minutes afterwards I felt a little uneasy: This story is maybe too strong to be true for nowadys Mogadishu.


    B) The Hyenas are all inside your head she said to me / The answer is easy if you take it logically

    I'm (still) pretty shure, that we deal with an urban legend. What makes me most curious about the story is, that there are some examples of chained patients, which are written about in detail in the sources - but there's not a single example of the hyena-variant of the story with those attributes, - even tough they would make for a very strong story. And the 560 Dollars are gone and - Mogadishu is gone - now it's out in the wild - where those stories tend to bloom anyway.

    Plus: About fifteen years ago I've seen pictures by a German photographer here in town, who had travelled for years in and around Somalia, Egypt and the Horn - and he had some impressive chromes taken with a 6X6 Rolleiflex showing mentally ill persons in chains. But not a single one with the kind of wounds that poeple have, which had encounters with hyenas. And there's no pictures by any other photographer, even though such pictures would be hot. Very hot.

    A last point: The structure of the story told is twofold in all the sources: 1) Impress a foreigner. 2) Show that you care - and that you make a diffrence.
    It's good for you, if the past was very horrible, if you want to show to those always critical foreigners with the big purses, that you now move in the right direction.

    In the Globe and Mail story, the robust practice of putting patients in chains hasn't been completely overcome, as the doctor Hadib (I call him doctor anyway) admits. That's dangerous turf, since it could hurt your image in the eyes of those almost allmighty foreigners. Therefor it would for shure be helpful, if you had an extra to make the progress really impressive: And that's the right moment to unleash the hyenas - : In the minds of those important and ever so sceptical foreigners. - And maybe even a little bit in the minds of the doctors/storytellers like Dr. Hbib themselves: Especially when in doubt, it does everybody good to be reassured to be on the road to a better future, I'd assume.

    Plus - as somebody mentioned above: The Hyena-Cure story could indeed have been used as a means to shock and freighten mental patients in order to make them cooperate. Cf. The Brothers Grimm Wolfe as Grandma and the kids.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  107. So where can I sign up for my hyena treatment?

  108. To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena."

    How is two vicious, cackling beasts locked* in the same hut a commitment to diversity?

    *Do huts outside of Gilligan's Island even have locks?

    Replies: @2Mintzin1

    , @SteveRogers42
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Ummm...isn't she usually locked up for the night with Huma?

    , @Pericles
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Two hyenas go in, one comes out.

  109. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    If a politically incorrect list came out of the top 10 worst Muslim ethnic groups in the world, Pakis would definitely make the cut if not top the list at number 1.

    Trying to find a Paki who respects White Western culture is like trying to find a 6 foot 5 Guatemalan.

  110. @Jefferson
    @Tacitus2016

    "Black Lives Matter Sweden."

    Black immigrants are complaining about White supremacy in Sweden, when Swedes are the least racist Whites on the planet.

    Archie Bunker types make up 0.1% of Indigenous
    Swedes.

    Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.

    Replies: @Cryptogenic, @Tacitus2016

    Remember, black hatred of whites flows upwards. It must be infuriating living around a bunch of good looking Swedes who pity you.

  111. @Bill B.
    @ATX Hipster


    Life is an IQ test.
     
    Oh I don't know.

    I can think of several TV pundits and politicians who would benefit from Hyena Night.

    It might knock the smugness off Bill Maher for a start.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ATX Hipster, @SteveRogers42

    Bill Maher is smug and irritating, but he’s spoken out against Islam and politically correct speech policing a number of times. I’ve been surprised how many times I’ve found myself in agreement with him the past couple years.

    Jon Stewart though…

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  112. The 1994 Disney film The Lion King portrays African hyenas as evil. In 2016 that would be seen as racist microaggression by the Somali “American” community.

  113. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, here's the October 2010 World Health Organization's "A Situation Analysis of Mental Health Care in Somalia:"

    ... Traditional healing practices should be taken into consideration for the development of any intervention related to mental health.
    There are many practices that can result in human rights violations, abuses and often injuries or death of the patients. In the Mental
    Health Department of Bosaso a woman was referred after having undergone a Mingis practice. Her clothes caught fire causing severe
    injuries to her and burning her shelter (August 2009). Even more dangerous and shocking is a practice reported to happen in South
    Central Zone by Abdurahman Ali Awale (Dr. Habeb), the national mental health focal point of the Ministry of Health of Somalia. Mentally
    challenged people, including children at early age, are locked in a hut for a whole night with hyenas. Those animals are believed to
    be able to eat (by biting the poor victim) the evil spirit possessing the mentally ill. This practice causes long lasting trauma, physical
    injuries and can even lead to death.

    http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2010_EN_736.pdf?ua=1
    [warning: large document, loads slowly]

    Now, maybe this is just a story made up by Dr. Hab, the radio pitchman for a chain of lunatic asylums, to promote his business.

    Replies: @Sean, @Dieter Kief

    RD Laing recounted how one old doctor treated annoying patients with an injection of 10cc of turpentine in the buttocks, which gave them a raging fever. He also had experience of the incredibly dangerous insulin shock therapy for psychosis (once state of the art treatment) . Electro shock is another one. Is being bitten by a wild animal so very different? It is a shock, and might work more often than anything else available in a dirt poor country.

  114. Do Somalis feed Albinos to the hyenas?

  115. To get to the root of this hyena treatment, you have to understand that Falashas and their Somali offshoot Ybirs (i.e. Horn of Africa Jews), were traditionally seen as shapeshifters that could change from human to hyena. They were also widely employed as physicians by higher caste Somalis, who valued their services in matters from sorcery to circumcision.

    The reason Somalis are locking people up with hyenas is that they hope that the hyena will transmogrify into a Jew behind locked doors and cure the patient (if you think I’m making this stuff up feel free to do the research yourself).

    Perhaps the dwindling numbers of Falashas and Ybirs due to immigration to Israel and Islamic jihad is the reason Somalis are using hyenas, becaue they can’t find the ones in human form anymore.

  116. @2Mintzin1
    @wren

    "A quick Google search does not turn up much."
    No, it won't... bad news about settlements of "refugees" and illegal immigrants, like the measles and drug-resistant TB outbreaks in the area around these settlements, is being suppressed.
    A lot like the press in Merkel's Germany, unfortunately.

    I had always thought that American reporters would tend to investigate, expose and attack when a scandal like this presents itself, just out of sheer ambition and "careerism", if there is such a word.

    Looks like the big money is in cooperating with the Establishment these days.
    This does not bode well for the future of this country.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Careerism is still very much the thing. Reporting the wrong type of scandal will sink your career, assuming the organ you write for will even allow it to go out, so avoiding the wrong stories is just as big a part of advancing your career as getting the big acceptable stories.

  117. Pat Casey says:

    Speaking of the sixth sense and a supernatural use for filthy animals, I have a question, or lets say an observation, that a certain sixth sense of mine realizes, and that experience would seem to confirm. Can the comment moderators read what’s being written in real time? Because sometimes a certain kind of comment of mine gets fifteen extra minutes to edit immediately. That, and, well, I often get the distinct feeling of being watched, as I struggle to square some constipated thought I’ve committed myself to. I’ll leave it there, except to say this, sincerely: Steve Sailer has got to be the most clever blogger out there. The best of whats around is what we get. But sometimes I think Steve’s too clever by half or lets just say, tricky. That’s why I love it when he’s not too subtle. Because there is nothing fun about pondering, rather compulsively, how well he might be knowing ourselves better than we do. There is a scholarly article to be written about the psychology of moderns who frequently blog comment. Remember, man did not evolve to live in a realm of blogs.

  118. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    If Hillary and her pals get their way, we’ll be seeing those hyenas along with the refugees. Can’t deprive them of their beautiful culture after all. All cultures are equal and worthy of praise, especially if they’re African and not whitey’s.

    How can we be so sure our Western ways of treating mental illness are any better? After all, they were overwhelmingly created by patriarchial sexist binary racist white men. Can it get any more evil and suspect? The ‘natural’ way of the Somali may have have few bumps, but you can be sure anyone getting this treatment will have a strong desire to do their all to deal with and get rid of their mental illness to never be treated this way again!

  119. • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Agnostic

    He's way worse than the Somalis, because nothing better can be expected of the Somalis.

    Replies: @Pat Casey

  120. @CCZ
    @Mr. Anon

    https://www.army.mil/goldstar/

    The term Gold Star family is a modern reference that comes from the Service Flag. These flags/banners were first flown by families during World War I. The flag included a blue star for every immediate family member serving in the armed forces of the United States, during any period of war or hostilities in which the armed forces of the United States were engaged. If that loved one died, the blue star was replaced by a gold star. This allowed members of the community to know the price that the family had paid in the cause of freedom.

    The United States began observing Gold Star Mothers Day on the last Sunday of September, in 1936. The Gold Star Wives was formed before the end of World War II. The Gold Star Lapel Button was established in August 1947.

    http://goldstarmoms.com/

    American Gold Star Mothers, Inc. We are an organization of mothers who have lost a son or daughter in the service of our country. We are a Veterans Service Organization, established in 1928 and chartered by the United States Congress in 1984. American Gold Star Mothers continue to honor our sons and daughters through service -- service to veterans and patriotic events

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Then it is strange that I never heard the term until last week.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Mr. Anon

    Sharing your concern for Mr.Khan's commitment to Sharia while lecturing about Constitutional guarantees of equal rights, I would add that the silence of Mrs. Khan is indeed significant.

    Recognizing that the Gold Star memorial Service Flag was originally, and almost continuously thereafter, associated with and dedicated to “Gold Star Mothers,” what is sadly revealing about the whole incident is the failure of Mrs. Khan, the actual Gold Star Mother, to be the speaker. Perhaps Gold Star Family is the new multi-cultural diversity friendly identity for those whose religion does not allow an actual Gold Star Mother to speak or otherwise be recognized as an individual equal to a man.

    , @2Mintzin1
    @Mr. Anon

    Baby Boomers were familiar with the term from school or from old movies about WWII.

    The term is being revived because it is convenient stick with which to beat Trump.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  121. @Agnostic
    The pope is just dumb as somalis.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pope-francis-explains-why-its-not-right-to-equate-islam-with-terrorism_us_579f9338e4b0693164c20bef

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    He’s way worse than the Somalis, because nothing better can be expected of the Somalis.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    @reiner Tor

    I know you're a smart guy, and that is the smartest way to saying something stupid, and there does seem to be a lot of smart people being stupid in a likeminded way about the pope these days.


    “I know it dangerous to say this but terrorism grows when there is no other option and when money is made a god and it, instead of the person, is put at the center of the world economy,” he said.
     
    Dangerous because that's a damning indictment; this man is speaking truth to power like no pope has in a long time.

    To start with, I don't think anyone round these parts honestly thinks the middle east made itself into an inferno, despite our best efforts. We're not neo-cons. And akin to what the Pope is saying about the central person is a point Steve used to make, one so obvious no one noticed in a Joe Sobran sort of way, that so much talk about what's "good for the economy" is a rhetorical symptom of what loves citizens to be oblivious, the banality of being carried along by deleterious cant, for who would begin by being against the economy, stupid? Suffice to say there is a whole cannon behind those comments by the pope, its not liberal claptrap, and Pat Buchanan has long understood human events better because he sees "the weapon of the weak" as hardly less evil than what I was long ago taught was called Doughats (sp?) theory of war, the idea that overkill indirectly defeats by demoralizing. I don't think that theory is true and I think it's practiced by Israel and to an extent America because power corrupts absolutely and our big men are bloodthirsty.

    I also think that this is as good as a fact: ISIS and the rest are the Islamization of radicalism not the radicalization of Islam. So much depends on that distinction. And as long as just some muslims qua muslims reject terrorism the Pope's opinion is categorically accurate.

    But the Pope is being more self-effacing on one point that I can speak to. There are in fact very few Catholics in prison in America today. Over more than three years in and I don't recall meeting a single one in fact (lest you count MS13 satanists who were baptized). But the Priest came every Sunday, along with (usually Jesuit) novitiates, as though just for me, because works of mercy we need.

  122. @Svigor

    When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).
     
    It can be tough to keep the sub-Saharan barbarities straight. Maybe we can use something like the Dewey Decimal System to keep it all sorted.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @SteveRogers42

    Ah, yes, the Dewey Diversity System. No doubt a liberal educator is already working on just that, and in the process using Occam’s butterknife to explain away the foolishness. If it’s benign then it’s something we must acknowledge as a beautiful aspect of their unique culture, or, if its dangerous (like locking a small child in a room with a dangerous predator), as the fault of white men somehow.

    Of course, it would be a lot easier we all could just agree that sub-saharan Africa is a hellhole that we have no desire to visit, much less import next door to us.

  123. @Jonathan Silber
    Many of these Somalis are probably just feigning depression in order to get their shaman to write a scrip for a hyena.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack

    Those Somalis and their backwards ways. Don’t they know that all sensible people give their relatives albino limb potions to cure them? It’s sooooo much less messy and traumatic. Sure, some albino guy somewhere probably had a pretty jacked-up day, but that’s him, and not uncle Jojo, right? Out of sight, out of mind. Anyway, they’re possessed or something anyway, right?

  124. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @SGOTI

    Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature's answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children's chewables. Badoom.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Buffalo Joe

    “Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature’s answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children’s chewables. Badoom.”

    New Hyena is now available at Walgreens and CVS Pharmacy.

  125. At the rate ObamaCare is driving up the cost of healthcare, we’ll be lucky to be able afford even generic hyena.

  126. @Mr. Anon
    @CCZ

    Then it is strange that I never heard the term until last week.

    Replies: @CCZ, @2Mintzin1

    Sharing your concern for Mr.Khan’s commitment to Sharia while lecturing about Constitutional guarantees of equal rights, I would add that the silence of Mrs. Khan is indeed significant.

    Recognizing that the Gold Star memorial Service Flag was originally, and almost continuously thereafter, associated with and dedicated to “Gold Star Mothers,” what is sadly revealing about the whole incident is the failure of Mrs. Khan, the actual Gold Star Mother, to be the speaker. Perhaps Gold Star Family is the new multi-cultural diversity friendly identity for those whose religion does not allow an actual Gold Star Mother to speak or otherwise be recognized as an individual equal to a man.

  127. @JohnnyWalker123
    To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena.

    Replies: @Kylie, @SteveRogers42, @Pericles

    “To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena.”

    How is two vicious, cackling beasts locked* in the same hut a commitment to diversity?

    *Do huts outside of Gilligan’s Island even have locks?

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    @Kylie

    Two hyenas enter.
    One hyena leaves.

    My money would be on Hillary.

  128. Why do most White Liberals prefer to adopt West African babies over Horn Of Africa babies like Somalis, Eriteans, and Ethiopians?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @Jefferson

    Two possibilities come to my mind:

    1. Blacks in the latter, northeastern African, countries are strongly opposed to giving up children for adoption and/or

    2. American adopters want children who will look like American blacks, i.e. West African.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  129. If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Silber


    If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.
     
    That's not the only "lobe" removed, either:

    In male to female surgery, the testicles and most of the penis are removed and the urethra is cut shorter. Some of the skin is used to fashion a largely functional vagina. A "neoclitoris" that allows sensation can be created from parts of the penis. Men retain their prostates.

    In female to male surgery, the breasts, uterus and ovaries are removed (in two separate procedures). A "neophallus" can be constructed using tissue from the forearm or other parts of the body that allows sexual sensation, an expensive procedure. Extending the urethra to allow standing urination has proved to be perhaps the most difficult part of the process…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-sex-reassignment-surgery-works/

    The recent bestseller "Becoming Nicole", by the author of the above, ends in this being done to a teenager. To widespread approval.

    (The term David Reuben used in 1970 was "castrated, mutilated female impersonator".)

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @yowza

  130. “Take two maulings by this hyena and call me in the morning.”

  131. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    Dumbo, We already have packs of hyenas roaming the streets of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis and other formerly great American cities.

  132. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @SGOTI

    Right? Less toxic than fluoxetine. Hyenas: nature's answer. Organic, free-range (though not cruelty-free). Pick one up today to pick up your spirits. Now available in children's chewables. Badoom.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Buffalo Joe

    Bard, Shouldn’t that be ….”chewable children?”

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Buffalo Joe

    Lol! You are really on a roll.

  133. “Dumbo, We already have packs of hyenas roaming the streets of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis and other formerly great American cities.”

    Speaking of Detroit, that city is so Black that even the Whitest most gentrified affluent zip code within it’s city limits is still over 30 percent Black.

  134. So this is how the West ends, not with a bang but a hyena whimper ..

  135. @BenKenobi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkU23m6yX04

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I love this song.

  136. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    Bring the hyenas! Don’t bother,they’re here…

  137. @Buffalo Joe
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Bard, Shouldn't that be ...."chewable children?"

    Replies: @Kylie

    Lol! You are really on a roll.

  138. @Mr. Anon
    @CCZ

    Then it is strange that I never heard the term until last week.

    Replies: @CCZ, @2Mintzin1

    Baby Boomers were familiar with the term from school or from old movies about WWII.

    The term is being revived because it is convenient stick with which to beat Trump.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @2Mintzin1

    I'm a boomer and I saw plenty of old movies about WWII, but I don't remember ever hearing the term. I don't doubt that it's real; CCZ has proven to my satisfaction that it is.

  139. @Kylie
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena."

    How is two vicious, cackling beasts locked* in the same hut a commitment to diversity?

    *Do huts outside of Gilligan's Island even have locks?

    Replies: @2Mintzin1

    Two hyenas enter.
    One hyena leaves.

    My money would be on Hillary.

    • LOL: Kylie
  140. @Perspective
    @everyday feminist

    There was a "machete attack" on two (women) police officers in Belgium today, the attacker - who happened to be holding the machete at the time - shouted allahu akbar during the assault. I wonder if the attacker was suffering from mental illness as a result of being bullied in school. He's very quiet and shy too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726916/Two-Belgian-policemen-attacked-machete-wielding-assailant-shouting-Arabic.html#comments

    Replies: @everyday feminist

    Maprotiline for machete-wielders!
    (sorry, grasping at straws here…)

  141. Pat Casey says:
    @reiner Tor
    @Agnostic

    He's way worse than the Somalis, because nothing better can be expected of the Somalis.

    Replies: @Pat Casey

    I know you’re a smart guy, and that is the smartest way to saying something stupid, and there does seem to be a lot of smart people being stupid in a likeminded way about the pope these days.

    “I know it dangerous to say this but terrorism grows when there is no other option and when money is made a god and it, instead of the person, is put at the center of the world economy,” he said.

    Dangerous because that’s a damning indictment; this man is speaking truth to power like no pope has in a long time.

    To start with, I don’t think anyone round these parts honestly thinks the middle east made itself into an inferno, despite our best efforts. We’re not neo-cons. And akin to what the Pope is saying about the central person is a point Steve used to make, one so obvious no one noticed in a Joe Sobran sort of way, that so much talk about what’s “good for the economy” is a rhetorical symptom of what loves citizens to be oblivious, the banality of being carried along by deleterious cant, for who would begin by being against the economy, stupid? Suffice to say there is a whole cannon behind those comments by the pope, its not liberal claptrap, and Pat Buchanan has long understood human events better because he sees “the weapon of the weak” as hardly less evil than what I was long ago taught was called Doughats (sp?) theory of war, the idea that overkill indirectly defeats by demoralizing. I don’t think that theory is true and I think it’s practiced by Israel and to an extent America because power corrupts absolutely and our big men are bloodthirsty.

    I also think that this is as good as a fact: ISIS and the rest are the Islamization of radicalism not the radicalization of Islam. So much depends on that distinction. And as long as just some muslims qua muslims reject terrorism the Pope’s opinion is categorically accurate.

    But the Pope is being more self-effacing on one point that I can speak to. There are in fact very few Catholics in prison in America today. Over more than three years in and I don’t recall meeting a single one in fact (lest you count MS13 satanists who were baptized). But the Priest came every Sunday, along with (usually Jesuit) novitiates, as though just for me, because works of mercy we need.

  142. My Dad gave me a book of Ethiopian children’s folk tales, compiled and translated c. 1960. Hyenas figured prominently, as I recall, so they must be a commonplace adjunct to human life in the Horn of Africa. The creatures were depicted as being clever and tricky.

    Dad had an interest in diversity of a decidedly old fashioned sort, from Hottentots to Turkomen, as he called them.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @PiltdownMan

    Hyenas are commonplace in certain cities such as Harar:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyenas_in_Harar

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  143. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    I don’t know about Vermont, but they are definitely in Maine.

    In 2011, there were an estimated 5,000 Somali immigrants in Lewiston. Around 5,000 Somalis also resided in Portland.

  144. @Anon
    People often adopt strange customs that are merely disguises for how they really want to behave if they could get away with it. For example, locking up an insane relative with a hyena is a way of trying to murder someone whose care is a heavy burden on you without bringing down the onus of the law on your head. And if the insane relative just ends up being mauled, it's a socially acceptable way of letting out the family's rage against what may be an annoying, obnoxious, and hyperaggressive family member with no control over himself without getting into trouble for beating up the victim themselves.

    As for the 'hyena' who is hired in rape girls, in a culture which believes that women should be subservient to males, arranged rape is one way of achieving this. The result is a girl who becomes too scared and traumatized to stand up for herself, and she will become a dutiful child too downtrodden to resist an arranged marriage or any other future plans that her parents intent to impose on her against her will.

    There's a cold-blooded logic to all this.

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew

    Very true. It happens here too — look at the (relatively) recently-discovered diagnosis of “sudden infant death syndrome,” a condition about which nothing is known other than everything appears exactly as it would if the baby had been smothered.

    The avoidance of this particular unpleasant truth has a long history; well into the 19th and even 20th centuries, much of Europe was plagued by baby-snatching witches and Fair Folk.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    @snorlax

    Ah, sudden infant death syndrome, I missed that officially. But I was recently learning about the fairies of Ireland, who might hoodwink where the object of your desire will be found, when say you tempt them with a conceited incantation, but who more importantly might snatch the life out of little ones, boys especially, so that the thing to do in the west was dress the heir in little girl outfits, and I was wondering if "Paddy" was originally the safe way to say the proud name with due caution. And indeed I see wikipedia says boys have a 50 percent higher incidence rate. Anyways I was reminded of an article in Takimag from years back that actually took the ontologically risky position on fairies. Sometimes I wish more would acknowledge the empirical evidence of the paranormal. I suppose if faeries could possibly be real, its best not to make a point of stating that possibility, because believing might be seeing, with ones who most care to work to make you wonder what you saw.

  145. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, here's the October 2010 World Health Organization's "A Situation Analysis of Mental Health Care in Somalia:"

    ... Traditional healing practices should be taken into consideration for the development of any intervention related to mental health.
    There are many practices that can result in human rights violations, abuses and often injuries or death of the patients. In the Mental
    Health Department of Bosaso a woman was referred after having undergone a Mingis practice. Her clothes caught fire causing severe
    injuries to her and burning her shelter (August 2009). Even more dangerous and shocking is a practice reported to happen in South
    Central Zone by Abdurahman Ali Awale (Dr. Habeb), the national mental health focal point of the Ministry of Health of Somalia. Mentally
    challenged people, including children at early age, are locked in a hut for a whole night with hyenas. Those animals are believed to
    be able to eat (by biting the poor victim) the evil spirit possessing the mentally ill. This practice causes long lasting trauma, physical
    injuries and can even lead to death.

    http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2010_EN_736.pdf?ua=1
    [warning: large document, loads slowly]

    Now, maybe this is just a story made up by Dr. Hab, the radio pitchman for a chain of lunatic asylums, to promote his business.

    Replies: @Sean, @Dieter Kief

    A) Hyenas Only Laugh For Fun (Roger Chapman & The Shortlist)

    This afternoon I talked to a friend, who writes fiction. I told him about the hyenas-cure and we laughed and shook our heads, but his reaction lacked something, which made me think.
    This was a horrible story, yeah, but it didn’t feel – hmm: It didn’t feel good.

    Same thing when I posted my first post about it here on the blog; just a few minutes afterwards I felt a little uneasy: This story is maybe too strong to be true for nowadys Mogadishu.

    B) The Hyenas are all inside your head she said to me / The answer is easy if you take it logically

    I’m (still) pretty shure, that we deal with an urban legend. What makes me most curious about the story is, that there are some examples of chained patients, which are written about in detail in the sources – but there’s not a single example of the hyena-variant of the story with those attributes, – even tough they would make for a very strong story. And the 560 Dollars are gone and – Mogadishu is gone – now it’s out in the wild – where those stories tend to bloom anyway.

    Plus: About fifteen years ago I’ve seen pictures by a German photographer here in town, who had travelled for years in and around Somalia, Egypt and the Horn – and he had some impressive chromes taken with a 6X6 Rolleiflex showing mentally ill persons in chains. But not a single one with the kind of wounds that poeple have, which had encounters with hyenas. And there’s no pictures by any other photographer, even though such pictures would be hot. Very hot.

    A last point: The structure of the story told is twofold in all the sources: 1) Impress a foreigner. 2) Show that you care – and that you make a diffrence.
    It’s good for you, if the past was very horrible, if you want to show to those always critical foreigners with the big purses, that you now move in the right direction.

    In the Globe and Mail story, the robust practice of putting patients in chains hasn’t been completely overcome, as the doctor Hadib (I call him doctor anyway) admits. That’s dangerous turf, since it could hurt your image in the eyes of those almost allmighty foreigners. Therefor it would for shure be helpful, if you had an extra to make the progress really impressive: And that’s the right moment to unleash the hyenas – : In the minds of those important and ever so sceptical foreigners. – And maybe even a little bit in the minds of the doctors/storytellers like Dr. Hbib themselves: Especially when in doubt, it does everybody good to be reassured to be on the road to a better future, I’d assume.

    Plus – as somebody mentioned above: The Hyena-Cure story could indeed have been used as a means to shock and freighten mental patients in order to make them cooperate. Cf. The Brothers Grimm Wolfe as Grandma and the kids.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dieter Kief

    The World Health Organization's 2010 report on Somalia recounts the hyena story. But it turns out that its source is "Dr. Hab," the same lunatic asylum entrepreneur quoted in these other stories over the next few years.

    It reminds me of an anecdote in an Evelyn Waugh travel book about the Horn of Africa, although I don't think it involved a hyena.

  146. @Jefferson
    @Tacitus2016

    "Black Lives Matter Sweden."

    Black immigrants are complaining about White supremacy in Sweden, when Swedes are the least racist Whites on the planet.

    Archie Bunker types make up 0.1% of Indigenous
    Swedes.

    Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.

    Replies: @Cryptogenic, @Tacitus2016

    “Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.” Yet they fail to thrive in Sweden like most other places, making a mockery of Myrdal’s wildly optimistic sermons to America.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Tacitus2016

    "Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.” Yet they fail to thrive in Sweden like most other places, making a mockery of Myrdal’s wildly optimistic sermons to America."

    Sweden is a welfare nanny state, so Blacks there have an extremely high standard of living. In the words of Charlie Sheen they are WINNING.

    Even the prison cells in Sweden look extremely nice. It's not a bad place to spend 10 or 20 years in for example.

  147. Sounds like Veterans of the U.S. military on the M&Ms of the clinically depressed. They just keep taking them. The tribal doctors are smarter than the V.A.

  148. Here’s a story about “mental illness” (and epilepsy) among the Russians:
    http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/sudden-sunburst/

    This information comes to us from the recollections of Jarosław Iwaszkiewicz, which were incorporated into Vincent Giroud’s biography of Nicolas Nabokov (see Richard Taruskin’s review in this issue). Iwaszkiewicz, a Polish writer and occasional librettist, met Nicolas Nabokov in the 1920s, and the composer confided in him that “seizures could assault him on the street, on the steps of the metro, or in a restaurant”, and that he then experienced both crippling fear and amazing “moments of clairvoyance”; Iwaszkiewicz claimed to have personally witnessed the latter. Nicolas was, according to him, very good at masking his seizures, often through what Iwaszkiewicz called, using a Russian word, “Dostoevshchina”, or “Dostoevskian stuff”, which usually means over-the-top emotionalism and melodrama (or, to cite Iwaszkiewicz’s own elaboration of the term, “bad living, drinking, completely Russian outbursts which were terrifying in the orderly compartmentalized world of the West”). Quite predictably, it was also the author of The Idiot, the most famous epileptic of them all, whom Iwaszkiewicz deployed to describe Nicolas’s affliction: “he had the same disease as Dostoevsky”. When I asked Vincent Giroud whether he had come across any other references to his subject’s epilepsy, his response was that he had not: “He evidently never discussed it with members of his family, at least the surviving ones”.

  149. Pat Casey says:
    @snorlax
    @Anon

    Very true. It happens here too — look at the (relatively) recently-discovered diagnosis of "sudden infant death syndrome," a condition about which nothing is known other than everything appears exactly as it would if the baby had been smothered.

    The avoidance of this particular unpleasant truth has a long history; well into the 19th and even 20th centuries, much of Europe was plagued by baby-snatching witches and Fair Folk.

    Replies: @Pat Casey

    Ah, sudden infant death syndrome, I missed that officially. But I was recently learning about the fairies of Ireland, who might hoodwink where the object of your desire will be found, when say you tempt them with a conceited incantation, but who more importantly might snatch the life out of little ones, boys especially, so that the thing to do in the west was dress the heir in little girl outfits, and I was wondering if “Paddy” was originally the safe way to say the proud name with due caution. And indeed I see wikipedia says boys have a 50 percent higher incidence rate. Anyways I was reminded of an article in Takimag from years back that actually took the ontologically risky position on fairies. Sometimes I wish more would acknowledge the empirical evidence of the paranormal. I suppose if faeries could possibly be real, its best not to make a point of stating that possibility, because believing might be seeing, with ones who most care to work to make you wonder what you saw.

  150. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    Do not forget Mogadishu on the Mississippi River.

    From Minnesota Bringmethenews.com

    Youth group wants $4M state cash to stop Somalis becoming extremists
    January 10, 2015 By Adam Uren

    The Ka Joog youth group wants funding to fight terror recruitment.
    Youth group leaders want millions of dollars in state cash to fund activity programs designed to keep Minnesota’s young Somalis out of the clutches of extremist groups.

    The Associated Press reports that Somali youth group Ka Joog are asking for $4.35 million of state cash spread over two years, which it says would keep at-risk Somali youths in Minnesota’s public school system occupied through arts initiatives, workforce training and after-school programs.

    First Somali museum in North America to open in Minneapolis
    October 18, 2013 By Tim Lammers

    Organizers are readying the grand opening of the first museum in North America dedicated to the Somalian culture, the Star Tribune reports.

    The Somali Artifact & Culture Museum is the brainchild of Minneapolis restaurant owner Osman Ali, who has amassed a 700-piece collection of items such as a camel’s milking jar, traditional shoes and a drum-like instrument called a durbaan.

    Ali tells KARE 11 that the idea came to him during a 2009 trip to Somalia, which made him realize how younger Somlians here no longer understood the country’s nomadic culture.

  151. In 2011, there were an estimated 5,000 Somali immigrants in Lewiston. Around 5,000 Somalis also resided in Portland.

    My niece went on a college tour in 2006 and Bates College in Lewiston was on her list. She and her dad were expecting a bucolic New England town, but were disabused of their quaint notions by the en masse presence of the skinny arrivals from afar.

  152. @Dieter Kief
    @Steve Sailer

    A) Hyenas Only Laugh For Fun (Roger Chapman & The Shortlist)

    This afternoon I talked to a friend, who writes fiction. I told him about the hyenas-cure and we laughed and shook our heads, but his reaction lacked something, which made me think.
    This was a horrible story, yeah, but it didn't feel - hmm: It didn't feel good.

    Same thing when I posted my first post about it here on the blog; just a few minutes afterwards I felt a little uneasy: This story is maybe too strong to be true for nowadys Mogadishu.


    B) The Hyenas are all inside your head she said to me / The answer is easy if you take it logically

    I'm (still) pretty shure, that we deal with an urban legend. What makes me most curious about the story is, that there are some examples of chained patients, which are written about in detail in the sources - but there's not a single example of the hyena-variant of the story with those attributes, - even tough they would make for a very strong story. And the 560 Dollars are gone and - Mogadishu is gone - now it's out in the wild - where those stories tend to bloom anyway.

    Plus: About fifteen years ago I've seen pictures by a German photographer here in town, who had travelled for years in and around Somalia, Egypt and the Horn - and he had some impressive chromes taken with a 6X6 Rolleiflex showing mentally ill persons in chains. But not a single one with the kind of wounds that poeple have, which had encounters with hyenas. And there's no pictures by any other photographer, even though such pictures would be hot. Very hot.

    A last point: The structure of the story told is twofold in all the sources: 1) Impress a foreigner. 2) Show that you care - and that you make a diffrence.
    It's good for you, if the past was very horrible, if you want to show to those always critical foreigners with the big purses, that you now move in the right direction.

    In the Globe and Mail story, the robust practice of putting patients in chains hasn't been completely overcome, as the doctor Hadib (I call him doctor anyway) admits. That's dangerous turf, since it could hurt your image in the eyes of those almost allmighty foreigners. Therefor it would for shure be helpful, if you had an extra to make the progress really impressive: And that's the right moment to unleash the hyenas - : In the minds of those important and ever so sceptical foreigners. - And maybe even a little bit in the minds of the doctors/storytellers like Dr. Hbib themselves: Especially when in doubt, it does everybody good to be reassured to be on the road to a better future, I'd assume.

    Plus - as somebody mentioned above: The Hyena-Cure story could indeed have been used as a means to shock and freighten mental patients in order to make them cooperate. Cf. The Brothers Grimm Wolfe as Grandma and the kids.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The World Health Organization’s 2010 report on Somalia recounts the hyena story. But it turns out that its source is “Dr. Hab,” the same lunatic asylum entrepreneur quoted in these other stories over the next few years.

    It reminds me of an anecdote in an Evelyn Waugh travel book about the Horn of Africa, although I don’t think it involved a hyena.

  153. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    The solemnity & profound patriotic self-love with which some Merkins utter the phrase “Gold Star Family” makes me yearn to suffer under the yoke of an historical, totalitarian dictatorship (pick one). At least their mischief was limited by the available technology.

  154. I am feeling depressed. Where is my hyena? I bet Obama care does not cover it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @flyingtiger


    I am feeling depressed. Where is my hyena? I bet Obama care does not cover it.
     
    HyenaCare is already in the pipeline.
  155. Perhaps this video could add some insight into the hyena issue.

  156. Mental illness is highly heritable. It both runs in families and is assortatively mated upon. Khat use cannot help. Hyenas are a variable that I would put aside. Stabby Somalis have been something of a problem to be sure. The Who, as far as I can tell, with their hiwatt amps and Townshend, Daltry, Entwistle and Moon, cannot be held responsible for this. I don’t care what the Who says. It’s a Somali problem.

  157. @Jefferson
    Why do most White Liberals prefer to adopt West African babies over Horn Of Africa babies like Somalis, Eriteans, and Ethiopians?

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Two possibilities come to my mind:

    1. Blacks in the latter, northeastern African, countries are strongly opposed to giving up children for adoption and/or

    2. American adopters want children who will look like American blacks, i.e. West African.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Karl

  158. @PV van der Byl
    @Jefferson

    Two possibilities come to my mind:

    1. Blacks in the latter, northeastern African, countries are strongly opposed to giving up children for adoption and/or

    2. American adopters want children who will look like American blacks, i.e. West African.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    One of America's more celebrated restaurateurs, Marcus Samuelsson, was an Ethiopian adopted by Swedes.

    , @Karl
    @Steve Sailer

    > Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade

    A large majority of Ethiopians are Orthodx Christian.

    Quite a few Ethiopians are not-so-dark, and many have kinda-sorta caucasoid facial physiogomy. Why wouldn't they, they're on the coast; foreigners been stopping by for thousands of years.

    Am I mistaken? I have the impression that the quite-sizeable Ethiopian diaspora in North America has ==not== been any particular problem.

  159. @2Mintzin1
    @Mr. Anon

    Baby Boomers were familiar with the term from school or from old movies about WWII.

    The term is being revived because it is convenient stick with which to beat Trump.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I’m a boomer and I saw plenty of old movies about WWII, but I don’t remember ever hearing the term. I don’t doubt that it’s real; CCZ has proven to my satisfaction that it is.

  160. @PiltdownMan
    My Dad gave me a book of Ethiopian children's folk tales, compiled and translated c. 1960. Hyenas figured prominently, as I recall, so they must be a commonplace adjunct to human life in the Horn of Africa. The creatures were depicted as being clever and tricky.

    Dad had an interest in diversity of a decidedly old fashioned sort, from Hottentots to Turkomen, as he called them.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Hyenas are commonplace in certain cities such as Harar:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyenas_in_Harar

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @PV van der Byl

    I think Waugh visited a lunatic asylum in Harar, but it didn't have a hyena.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

  161. @Chiron
    This is how primitive societies handle mental illness, Europeans did something similar in Pagan times, whit the Church came the confessions to the Priest and exorcism in the worst cases, thanks to Freud we have pshycoanalysis now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @SteveRogers42

    This is how primitive societies handle mental illness, Europeans did something similar in Pagan times, whit the Church came the confessions to the Priest and exorcism in the worst cases, thanks to Freud we have pshycoanalysis now.

    And “pshycoanalysis” is supposed to be an improvement? At least hyenas are cheap. So are dice and Ouija boards. How does–or did– Freud compare with those?

  162. A lot of Somalis look like they have zika shaped foreheads. Look at the Somali actor in the Tom Hanks film Captain Phillips, I never see any African Americans with a forehead like his.

  163. @Steve Sailer
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Karl

    One of America’s more celebrated restaurateurs, Marcus Samuelsson, was an Ethiopian adopted by Swedes.

  164. @PV van der Byl
    @PiltdownMan

    Hyenas are commonplace in certain cities such as Harar:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyenas_in_Harar

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I think Waugh visited a lunatic asylum in Harar, but it didn’t have a hyena.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, it wasn't the current year.

  165. @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    "Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden." Yet they fail to thrive in Sweden like most other places, making a mockery of Myrdal's wildly optimistic sermons to America.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Most Swedes are Kardashian sisters level pro-Black. Blacks get treated like royalty in Sweden.” Yet they fail to thrive in Sweden like most other places, making a mockery of Myrdal’s wildly optimistic sermons to America.”

    Sweden is a welfare nanny state, so Blacks there have an extremely high standard of living. In the words of Charlie Sheen they are WINNING.

    Even the prison cells in Sweden look extremely nice. It’s not a bad place to spend 10 or 20 years in for example.

  166. @Anon
    People often adopt strange customs that are merely disguises for how they really want to behave if they could get away with it. For example, locking up an insane relative with a hyena is a way of trying to murder someone whose care is a heavy burden on you without bringing down the onus of the law on your head. And if the insane relative just ends up being mauled, it's a socially acceptable way of letting out the family's rage against what may be an annoying, obnoxious, and hyperaggressive family member with no control over himself without getting into trouble for beating up the victim themselves.

    As for the 'hyena' who is hired in rape girls, in a culture which believes that women should be subservient to males, arranged rape is one way of achieving this. The result is a girl who becomes too scared and traumatized to stand up for herself, and she will become a dutiful child too downtrodden to resist an arranged marriage or any other future plans that her parents intent to impose on her against her will.

    There's a cold-blooded logic to all this.

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew

    I don’t buy it. You’d need not only to wish you were rid of that family member, but to wish him to die a terrifying and painful death. As in the hyena eating his liver while he was still alive.

  167. @Jonathan Silber
    If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.

    That’s not the only “lobe” removed, either:

    In male to female surgery, the testicles and most of the penis are removed and the urethra is cut shorter. Some of the skin is used to fashion a largely functional vagina. A “neoclitoris” that allows sensation can be created from parts of the penis. Men retain their prostates.

    In female to male surgery, the breasts, uterus and ovaries are removed (in two separate procedures). A “neophallus” can be constructed using tissue from the forearm or other parts of the body that allows sexual sensation, an expensive procedure. Extending the urethra to allow standing urination has proved to be perhaps the most difficult part of the process…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-sex-reassignment-surgery-works/

    The recent bestseller “Becoming Nicole”, by the author of the above, ends in this being done to a teenager. To widespread approval.

    (The term David Reuben used in 1970 was “castrated, mutilated female impersonator”.)

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Reg Cæsar


    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.
     
    I agree wholeheartedly.
    , @yowza
    @Reg Cæsar


    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.
     
    Spoken with the arrogance and ignorance of one who has never visited Somalia, or even have friends who visited Somalia. The US is still far from the burned out, self-destructive, evil stinking shithole we call "Somalia." If the US was just a fraction like Somalia, you wouldn't have the balls to leave your apartment.

    I'm really getting tired of you brainless basket-cases, with your stupid strategy of trying to draw US parity with inferiors, "well, Christians had the Crusaaaades! So they're just as bad as the invading Muslims!" because you're too stupid, or lazy to come up with any ideas that comport with reality, or even verifiable history.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  168. @Divine Right
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    One of the things that disturbs me most about the US is the cult of military worship that pervades the country. Trump didn't pick some family out at random and attack them, he rightfully (but crudely) responded to a man who exploited his son's death in order to shame him on behalf of the warmonger who helped kill him - and will help kill many more in her future wars. Apparently, if you have any connection to the military, you are above criticism, even if you invite it by unfairly attacking someone else first.

    Replies: @L Woods

    It’s true. Anyone who’s had any experience with today’s military knows 90% of it is little more than a uniformed DMV.

    • Replies: @Bleuteaux
    @L Woods

    Service in combat is one thing, obviously. But the perks of being an officer doing a desk job somewhere are unreal. I know people who don't want to leave for the private sector because their overall compensation would be cut in half. This crying poor thing on behalf of a lot of the military is outdated.

  169. @flyingtiger
    I am feeling depressed. Where is my hyena? I bet Obama care does not cover it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I am feeling depressed. Where is my hyena? I bet Obama care does not cover it.

    HyenaCare is already in the pipeline.

  170. The city of Harar in the Horn of Africa is famous for using hyenas to keep the streets clean of dead domestic animals. The city walls have hyena-sized holes to let wild hyenas in at nightfall.

    The French poet Rimbaud wrote a disturbing poem in the 1870s, A Season in Hell, which includes the line, “You will always be a hyena.” Rimbaud later moved to Harar and sold guns.

    Here’s a video made of Moby’s song “Hyenas,” which begins with several lines from Rimbaud’s poem:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    Waugh's visit to Harar in 1930 was largely inspired by Rimbaud having lived in this walled city.

    , @PV van der Byl
    @Steve Sailer

    National Geographic had a story on the hyenas of Harare sometime in the late 60s or early 70s but I was unable to find it online.

    Replies: @yowza

  171. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @PV van der Byl

    I think Waugh visited a lunatic asylum in Harar, but it didn't have a hyena.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    Well, it wasn’t the current year.

  172. @War for Blair Mountain
    @SFG

    SFG


    If you feel you need to be protected by young Pakistani Muslim Males....may I suggest that you pack up and move to Muslim Pakistan...From what I have heard, the Paksitani Military is 10o percent Young Pakistani Muslim Male.

    Replies: @Karl

    > the Paksitani Military is 10o percent Young Pakistani Muslim Male

    I know no one here will believe this, but the military is one of the best ways for a Pakistani girl to move up to a middle-class life.

    Westerners seem to know more about the moons of Pluto than about Lahore.

  173. Hyenas show up a fair amount in European literature. For example:

    The Hyenas

    by

    Rudyard Kipling

    After the burial-parties leave

    And the baffled kites have fled;

    The wise hyænas come out at eve

    To take account of our dead.

    How he died and why he died

    Troubles them not a whit.

    They snout the bushes and stones aside

    And dig till they come to it.

    They are only resolute they shall eat

    That they and their mates may thrive,

    And they know that the dead are safer meat

    Than the weakest thing alive.

    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    @Steve Sailer

    Kipling once had dinner with Mark Twain.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

  174. @Steve Sailer
    The city of Harar in the Horn of Africa is famous for using hyenas to keep the streets clean of dead domestic animals. The city walls have hyena-sized holes to let wild hyenas in at nightfall.

    The French poet Rimbaud wrote a disturbing poem in the 1870s, A Season in Hell, which includes the line, "You will always be a hyena." Rimbaud later moved to Harar and sold guns.

    Here's a video made of Moby's song "Hyenas," which begins with several lines from Rimbaud's poem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFVZmp5HlI

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PV van der Byl

    Waugh’s visit to Harar in 1930 was largely inspired by Rimbaud having lived in this walled city.

  175. Nietzsche called Dante, “A hyena that wrote poetry on tombs.”

    • Replies: @Djinn Fizz
    @Steve Sailer

    Did he, or has anyone knowledgeable, elaborated on the Dante/hyena analogy? He versified tales out-of-school, settled scores, & I'm sure some of his contemporaries thought of him as a whiny b****, but the epithet seems piquant.

  176. @Steve Sailer
    The city of Harar in the Horn of Africa is famous for using hyenas to keep the streets clean of dead domestic animals. The city walls have hyena-sized holes to let wild hyenas in at nightfall.

    The French poet Rimbaud wrote a disturbing poem in the 1870s, A Season in Hell, which includes the line, "You will always be a hyena." Rimbaud later moved to Harar and sold guns.

    Here's a video made of Moby's song "Hyenas," which begins with several lines from Rimbaud's poem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFVZmp5HlI

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PV van der Byl

    National Geographic had a story on the hyenas of Harare sometime in the late 60s or early 70s but I was unable to find it online.

    • Replies: @yowza
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopian Folk Tale

    THE BABOON, THE HYENA AND THE JACKAL
    Narrator Unknown

    The baboon, the hyena and the jackal all lived together. The hyena and the jackal went together to a far area to hunt a goat. But the baboon annoyed them by shouting and the goats all ran away. They agreed to kill the baboon to be free.

    One day they went to the lion and told him what the baboon was doing and said, “Lord, you don’t have any shoes. Why not ask the baboon to make shoes for you?”

    The lion agreed and asked the baboon to make shoes for him.

    The baboon said, “Yes, I’ll make shoes but I need the skin of the hyena and the jackal.”

    The lion kills both hyena and jackal and now the baboon is free.

    So the baboon said, “Clean all the blood off them in the water,” and he pushed the lion into the lake.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

  177. Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/

    • Replies: @Trelane
    @Harry Baldwin

    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?

    "Great photos" yeah I guess. But what do they really show? What do they show about the animal and what do they show about their handlers? They're not "pets" Harry.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @yowza

    , @yowza
    @Harry Baldwin


    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/
     
    Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena's like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn't help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke.

    It wasn't supposed to be insightful and prescient, god dammit.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Paris Hanoi Hilton
    @Harry Baldwin

    Funny, they don't look Jooooish.

  178. @Steve Sailer
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Karl

    > Ethiopia was a hot spot for American adoptions in the previous decade

    A large majority of Ethiopians are Orthodx Christian.

    Quite a few Ethiopians are not-so-dark, and many have kinda-sorta caucasoid facial physiogomy. Why wouldn’t they, they’re on the coast; foreigners been stopping by for thousands of years.

    Am I mistaken? I have the impression that the quite-sizeable Ethiopian diaspora in North America has ==not== been any particular problem.

  179. Here’s the Prologue of Rimbaud’s prose-poem “A Season in Hell,” which was published when he was a teenager in Europe. (David Morrell, the author of the novel “First Blood,” chose the name “Rambo” for his character in honor of this poem, “an apt metaphor for the prisoner-of-war experiences that I imagined Rambo suffering.”)

    Une Saison en Enfer

    Once, if I remember rightly, my life was a feast where all hearts opened, and all wines flowed.

    One evening I sat Beauty on my knees – And I found her bitter – And I reviled her.

    I armed myself against Justice.

    I fled. O sorceresses, O misery, O hatred, it was to you my treasure was entrusted!

    I managed to erase all human hope from my mind. I made the wild beast’s silent leap to strangle every joy.

    I summoned executioners to bite their gun-butts as I died. I summoned plagues, to stifle myself with sand and blood. Misfortune was my god. I stretched out in the mud. I dried myself in the breezes of crime. And I played some fine tricks on madness.

    And spring brought me the dreadful laugh of the idiot.

    Now, just lately, finding myself on the point of uttering the last croak, I thought of seeking the key to the old feast, where I might perhaps find my appetite again!

    Charity is the key – This inspiration proves I have been dreaming!

    ‘You’re a hyena still…’ the demon cries who crowned me with such delightful poppies. ‘Win death with all your appetites; your egoism, all the deadly sins.’

    Ah, I’ve practised too many! – But, dear Satan, I beg you, an eye a little less inflamed! And while awaiting my few cowardly little deeds, for you who prize in a writer the lack of descriptive or instructive skill, for you, I tear off these few hideous pages from my notebook of a damned soul.

    Oddly, enough, Rimbaud later moved to the walled medieval city of Harar in what’s now Ethiopia near the Somalia border. Harar is famous for using hyenas to keep the streets clean.

    The feeding of the hyenas is now a tourist attraction in Harar.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    Did you ever see the Rimbaud biographic movie with DiCaprio? I enjoyed it a lot.

    Partly because of the excellent work portraying France in the early 1870's. It was an interesting time you do not see on movies much, and represents the first few years of Peak West, when civilized Western whites were at their economic, military, and demographic peak relative to the rest of the world, ending in 1914.

    After France lost the Franco-Prussian war, the massive indemnity that France agreed to pay people worried would be crushing. As it turned out the French economy grew so extremely fast that the debt was paid early, in full, entirely in gold coin. At the same France conquered Indochina and Tunisia and engaged in massive infrastructure construction, railroads, telegraph cables, and public buildings.

    Replies: @yowza

  180. @Harry Baldwin
    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/

    Replies: @Trelane, @yowza, @Paris Hanoi Hilton

    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?

    “Great photos” yeah I guess. But what do they really show? What do they show about the animal and what do they show about their handlers? They’re not “pets” Harry.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Trelane

    Much food for thought in your response, Trelane. I'll dwell on it.

    Replies: @Trelane

    , @yowza
    @Trelane


    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?
     
    Not all of them were muzzled. I would suppose some are muzzled because, bottom line, the muscularity of their operative jaw must create a phenomenal psi, even when they're being playful. We're talking about an animal that triumphed in the hellish zero/sum pits of Africa.

    It's like having a pet male gorilla. I suppose it could work out, but you wouldn't want to encourage hugging.

    I would also imagine "domesticated" hyena's would be high maintenance. Not something you want to keep locked up in your apartment all day. You'd have to make sure they always have something to do. Ideally, in the hyena's case, that would probably entail regularly chasing down something weighing at least 150 pounds, killing, and eating it.

    As long as those basic needs are met, they'd probably make wonderful pets.
  181. I’ve tracked the phrase “hyena cure” back to 2007 in the Chicago Tribune. But once again it comes from the enterprising Dr. Habeb:

    “Habeb fired up his office computer. He clicked through photos of hyenas to illustrate the “hyena cure”—a village therapy that involves dropping a mentally impaired person into a pit with the wild predator. The animals are supposed to scare off djinns, or evil spirits, inhabiting the patient, Habeb explained. With a snicker, he ticked off other rustic coping mechanisms for mental illness—beatings, forced starvation, smoking donkey feces.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-071115mental-story-story.html

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Steve Sailer

    Habeb is tapping into the old story about the Yibir. No joke. Somalis hire them to do exorcisms, and the myth - still widely believed - is that they shapeshift into hyenas. Richard Burton wrote about this in the 19th century.

    Maybe Habeb is trying to take their business by misrepresenting the practice, which is pretty lucrative for these Somali" Hebrews".

    Koreans still hire shamans who drink chicken blood. Japanese have stories about people who shapeshift into foxes. It's easy to make up stories when they are half true.

  182. @Harry Baldwin
    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/

    Replies: @Trelane, @yowza, @Paris Hanoi Hilton

    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/

    Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena’s like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn’t help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke.

    It wasn’t supposed to be insightful and prescient, god dammit.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @yowza

    "Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena’s like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn’t help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke."

    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented. But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race. My black friends who own pit bulls not only give their dogs good, loving homes, they also advocate tirelessly for pits. I would without hesitation give my bullies into their care.

    I don't know this guy but I love this video.

    https://youtu.be/4BoR4PxOc9s

    Replies: @yowza

  183. Gericault painted in 1822 a “Portrait of a Woman Suffering from Obsessive Envy (The Hyena).”

    https://romanticportraitsblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/19/theodore-gericault-and-the-portraits-of-the-insane/

    In modern day America, hyenas as associated with comedy — e.g., Hyena’s Comedy Nightclub – Fort Worth, Dallas and Plano — due to the phrase “laughing hyena.”

    In the Romantic era, however, hyenas seemed to be associated with madness.

  184. @Steve Sailer
    Nietzsche called Dante, “A hyena that wrote poetry on tombs.”

    Replies: @Djinn Fizz

    Did he, or has anyone knowledgeable, elaborated on the Dante/hyena analogy? He versified tales out-of-school, settled scores, & I’m sure some of his contemporaries thought of him as a whiny b****, but the epithet seems piquant.

  185. @PV van der Byl
    @Steve Sailer

    National Geographic had a story on the hyenas of Harare sometime in the late 60s or early 70s but I was unable to find it online.

    Replies: @yowza

    Ethiopian Folk Tale

    THE BABOON, THE HYENA AND THE JACKAL
    Narrator Unknown

    The baboon, the hyena and the jackal all lived together. The hyena and the jackal went together to a far area to hunt a goat. But the baboon annoyed them by shouting and the goats all ran away. They agreed to kill the baboon to be free.

    One day they went to the lion and told him what the baboon was doing and said, “Lord, you don’t have any shoes. Why not ask the baboon to make shoes for you?”

    The lion agreed and asked the baboon to make shoes for him.

    The baboon said, “Yes, I’ll make shoes but I need the skin of the hyena and the jackal.”

    The lion kills both hyena and jackal and now the baboon is free.

    So the baboon said, “Clean all the blood off them in the water,” and he pushed the lion into the lake.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @yowza

    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop's and Hans Christian Andersen's are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.

    Replies: @yowza

    , @snorlax
    @yowza

    Doom: Repercussions of Evil
    by Peter Chimaera

    John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn’t see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

    John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad “I want to be on the ships daddy.”

    Dad said “No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS”

    There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.

    “This is Joson” the radio crackered. “You must fight the demons!”

    So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.

    “HE GOING TO KILL US” said the demons

    “I will shoot at him” said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.

    “No! I must kill the demons” he shouted

    The radio said “No, John. You are the demons”

    And then John was a zombie.

  186. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    Now they want to import Syrians to Vermont, too.

  187. @Trelane
    @Harry Baldwin

    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?

    "Great photos" yeah I guess. But what do they really show? What do they show about the animal and what do they show about their handlers? They're not "pets" Harry.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @yowza

    Much food for thought in your response, Trelane. I’ll dwell on it.

    • Replies: @Trelane
    @Harry Baldwin

    Are you being sarcastic sir? Sarcastic to ME? That's funny.

    Feed aplenty and dwell as you will.

  188. Anthropologist Marcus Baynes-Rock spent over a year following the hyena scavengers around the medieval streets of Harar, Ethiopia:

    In a wider, African context, the above statement speaks of an exception to a rule. In general, hyenas are not well liked. Indeed, hyenas are usually feared, loathed, vilified, derided, persecuted and where people have the means, eradicated. Often, hyenas are associated with what are called witches (Johnstone 1902, p. 265; Morris 2000, p. 168).

    Hyenas’ nocturnal habits, human-like giggles and propensity to exhume and consume human corpses makes them obvious companions to people exercising supernatural means to malevolent ends (Gray 1963, p. 167). Often the hyenas do the bidding of the witches, bringing home fresh human meat, or else they are ridden through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses (Beidelman 1963, p. 65; 1975, p. 190; Gray 1963, p. 166). In many countries, witches are believed to transform
    into
    hyenas and prowl around at night looking for victims to eat (Niehaus 1995, p. 514; Rutherford 1999, p. 95; Sapir 1981, p. 533).

    https://www.academia.edu/7109672/Hyenas_Like_Us_Social_Relations_with_an_Urban_Carnivore_in_Harar_Ethiopia

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @Steve Sailer

    "...through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses"

    I'm still trying to figure out what distinguishes Hillary from the other hyenas.

  189. @yowza
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopian Folk Tale

    THE BABOON, THE HYENA AND THE JACKAL
    Narrator Unknown

    The baboon, the hyena and the jackal all lived together. The hyena and the jackal went together to a far area to hunt a goat. But the baboon annoyed them by shouting and the goats all ran away. They agreed to kill the baboon to be free.

    One day they went to the lion and told him what the baboon was doing and said, “Lord, you don’t have any shoes. Why not ask the baboon to make shoes for you?”

    The lion agreed and asked the baboon to make shoes for him.

    The baboon said, “Yes, I’ll make shoes but I need the skin of the hyena and the jackal.”

    The lion kills both hyena and jackal and now the baboon is free.

    So the baboon said, “Clean all the blood off them in the water,” and he pushed the lion into the lake.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop’s and Hans Christian Andersen’s are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.

    • Replies: @yowza
    @Steve Sailer


    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop’s and Hans Christian Andersen’s are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.
     
    I think it made sense, the moral being, if you're clever, the world is yours. The glaringly pathological element was killing the damned lion. Apparently, the lion got his comeuppance simply for being unknowingly part of the hyena's and jackal's stupid plan. Generally, it would fit in a "Charles Manson's Folk Tales for Children" anthology.

    Replies: @EvolutionistX

  190. @Trelane
    @Harry Baldwin

    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?

    "Great photos" yeah I guess. But what do they really show? What do they show about the animal and what do they show about their handlers? They're not "pets" Harry.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @yowza

    A tamed animal does not bite. What are these muzzled animals? Tame pets or wild beasts?

    Not all of them were muzzled. I would suppose some are muzzled because, bottom line, the muscularity of their operative jaw must create a phenomenal psi, even when they’re being playful. We’re talking about an animal that triumphed in the hellish zero/sum pits of Africa.

    It’s like having a pet male gorilla. I suppose it could work out, but you wouldn’t want to encourage hugging.

    I would also imagine “domesticated” hyena’s would be high maintenance. Not something you want to keep locked up in your apartment all day. You’d have to make sure they always have something to do. Ideally, in the hyena’s case, that would probably entail regularly chasing down something weighing at least 150 pounds, killing, and eating it.

    As long as those basic needs are met, they’d probably make wonderful pets.

  191. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    Growing up in the 1950s, I remember there was always a white Cadillac convertible or two with the WW2/Korean Police Action “Gold Star” parents in the Memorial Day/July 4th/Labor Day parades in my NYC inner suburban —mostly lumpen-bourgeois/ethnic white working class— hometown.

    Due somehow to a kozmik glitch a decade later, in ’68-’69 I ended up as a grunt in Eye Corpse, toting an evil black assault rifle… and while our casualty rate was nothing compared to the previous World Wars, we generated a fair number of Gold Star families as well. But by then the term had completely disappeared from common use: not to mention the white convertables and the Memorial Day parades as well, more or less. No Gold Star Caddys for you pathological parents of psychotic baby killers!

    And now, somehow in the Khizr Khan case, the Gold Star meme is back in bizniz. WTF?

    Hilary may be beneath contempt in almost every respect but she’s not notably stupid and her Inner Party cabal knew exactly what they were doing on this one. At least until somebody started Googling up Khizr, Esq’s rather interesting backstory. Maybe the cabal ain’t so bright either, given the incompetent vetting of this Hero of the US Constitution and his duly reticent Gold Star co-parent.

  192. @Steve Sailer
    @yowza

    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop's and Hans Christian Andersen's are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.

    Replies: @yowza

    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop’s and Hans Christian Andersen’s are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.

    I think it made sense, the moral being, if you’re clever, the world is yours. The glaringly pathological element was killing the damned lion. Apparently, the lion got his comeuppance simply for being unknowingly part of the hyena’s and jackal’s stupid plan. Generally, it would fit in a “Charles Manson’s Folk Tales for Children” anthology.

    • Replies: @EvolutionistX
    @yowza

    I counter that the lion got killed because baboons are vicious and don't like being eaten by lions.

  193. @Harry Baldwin
    @Trelane

    Much food for thought in your response, Trelane. I'll dwell on it.

    Replies: @Trelane

    Are you being sarcastic sir? Sarcastic to ME? That’s funny.

    Feed aplenty and dwell as you will.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  194. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    I learned about “gold stars” and “blue stars” from this song in the ’90’s. It’s called “Sullivan” by Caroline’s spine about the five Sullivan brothers who died in the sinking of the USS Juneau in WWII.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_(song)

  195. @Steve Sailer
    Here's the Prologue of Rimbaud's prose-poem "A Season in Hell," which was published when he was a teenager in Europe. (David Morrell, the author of the novel "First Blood," chose the name "Rambo" for his character in honor of this poem, "an apt metaphor for the prisoner-of-war experiences that I imagined Rambo suffering.")

    Une Saison en Enfer

    Once, if I remember rightly, my life was a feast where all hearts opened, and all wines flowed.

    One evening I sat Beauty on my knees – And I found her bitter – And I reviled her.

    I armed myself against Justice.

    I fled. O sorceresses, O misery, O hatred, it was to you my treasure was entrusted!

    I managed to erase all human hope from my mind. I made the wild beast’s silent leap to strangle every joy.

    I summoned executioners to bite their gun-butts as I died. I summoned plagues, to stifle myself with sand and blood. Misfortune was my god. I stretched out in the mud. I dried myself in the breezes of crime. And I played some fine tricks on madness.

    And spring brought me the dreadful laugh of the idiot.

    Now, just lately, finding myself on the point of uttering the last croak, I thought of seeking the key to the old feast, where I might perhaps find my appetite again!

    Charity is the key – This inspiration proves I have been dreaming!

    ‘You’re a hyena still...’ the demon cries who crowned me with such delightful poppies. ‘Win death with all your appetites; your egoism, all the deadly sins.’

    Ah, I’ve practised too many! – But, dear Satan, I beg you, an eye a little less inflamed! And while awaiting my few cowardly little deeds, for you who prize in a writer the lack of descriptive or instructive skill, for you, I tear off these few hideous pages from my notebook of a damned soul.

    Oddly, enough, Rimbaud later moved to the walled medieval city of Harar in what's now Ethiopia near the Somalia border. Harar is famous for using hyenas to keep the streets clean.

    The feeding of the hyenas is now a tourist attraction in Harar.

    Replies: @Lot

    Did you ever see the Rimbaud biographic movie with DiCaprio? I enjoyed it a lot.

    Partly because of the excellent work portraying France in the early 1870’s. It was an interesting time you do not see on movies much, and represents the first few years of Peak West, when civilized Western whites were at their economic, military, and demographic peak relative to the rest of the world, ending in 1914.

    After France lost the Franco-Prussian war, the massive indemnity that France agreed to pay people worried would be crushing. As it turned out the French economy grew so extremely fast that the debt was paid early, in full, entirely in gold coin. At the same France conquered Indochina and Tunisia and engaged in massive infrastructure construction, railroads, telegraph cables, and public buildings.

    • Replies: @yowza
    @Lot

    To grasp the full import of the tragedy of France, check out this video of Paris in 1937:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_YRhLqQKbE

    Only analogy I can think of is, imagine Disneyland allowing generous onsite Section 8 housing.

  196. My experiences with khat have always had a low ROI: it’s a pleasant enough buzz but tastes awful and requires a lot of patience (it takes time to kick in) and skill to keep it from moving around one’s mouth (which can be quite nasty.)

  197. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Silber


    If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.
     
    That's not the only "lobe" removed, either:

    In male to female surgery, the testicles and most of the penis are removed and the urethra is cut shorter. Some of the skin is used to fashion a largely functional vagina. A "neoclitoris" that allows sensation can be created from parts of the penis. Men retain their prostates.

    In female to male surgery, the breasts, uterus and ovaries are removed (in two separate procedures). A "neophallus" can be constructed using tissue from the forearm or other parts of the body that allows sexual sensation, an expensive procedure. Extending the urethra to allow standing urination has proved to be perhaps the most difficult part of the process…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-sex-reassignment-surgery-works/

    The recent bestseller "Becoming Nicole", by the author of the above, ends in this being done to a teenager. To widespread approval.

    (The term David Reuben used in 1970 was "castrated, mutilated female impersonator".)

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @yowza

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    I agree wholeheartedly.

  198. @Merema
    Never heard of that one..you live and learn I guess.

    Somalis in the US have a high rate of childhood autism.

    I think there is a higher than average level of childhood developmental disorders and mental illness in East Africa. The communities try to cope with the best they can with their limited resources and limited knowledge. Tying up the mentally ill or disabled in the backyard is common in the very poor third world because there are no alternatives.

    If they are not aggressive and not able to harm themselves than usually it's grandma's job to look after them. And so she goes from shaman to shaman dragging the poor child along looking for a cure..holy water, holy smoke, holy chanting ..for the exorcist to get the "demon" to leave.

    An incredibly ignorant way third world people deal with mentally illness is encouraging the men to get married and have children (sigh) thinking that "settling down" will do them some good. I know this is true in the christian and muslim cultures in east Africa, and is probably true in all backward traditional communities around the globe.

    Consider the Tunisian guy who mowed down the French in Nice. His parents were actually modern and educated enough to get him pyschiatric treatment-I give them credit for that. But they had no qualms arranging for his marriage to his cousin in France even though they knew was a violent psycho since he was a child.

    Replies: @EvolutionistX

    The cousin marriage is probably a big reason why so many of these kids have mental disorders.

  199. @yowza
    @Steve Sailer


    Folktales tend to sound like Grandpa Simpson is making them up off the top of his head.

    Pseudo-folktales like Aesop’s and Hans Christian Andersen’s are distinctive in having a point that makes sense.
     
    I think it made sense, the moral being, if you're clever, the world is yours. The glaringly pathological element was killing the damned lion. Apparently, the lion got his comeuppance simply for being unknowingly part of the hyena's and jackal's stupid plan. Generally, it would fit in a "Charles Manson's Folk Tales for Children" anthology.

    Replies: @EvolutionistX

    I counter that the lion got killed because baboons are vicious and don’t like being eaten by lions.

  200. @cipher
    @The Alarmist

    The Alarmist,

    Who worked in the meat packing plants prior to the arrival of Somalis, Mexicans, Central Americans and Pacific Islanders?

    What are they and their descendants working on today?

    Slaughterhouse work used to be a rung-on-the-ladder job. A way to gain skills and then move on to more challenging - e.g., value added - work.

    That rung and many like it, even the ladder itself, are disappearing fast.

    What do you propose as its replacement?

    Where is your comprehensive program for its construction and maintenance?

    What steps have you taken to implement it?

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    Actually, slaughterhouse work was a career more often than not for American workers when Americans did it. It paid a relatively high income for the crummy towns like Emporia, KS, where the slaughterhouses were located-maybe $10-13 an hour when McD’s paid $3.35 in the eighties-and though some younger workers did move on from there, usually that was where you stayed unless you moved out of town. Working in a slaughterhouse didn’t give you too many skills besides cutting up animals.

    Occasionally people moved up from the line into supervisory jobs, where they would retire out from usually. But it was not an entry job for kids-there were more applicants than jobs and they usually tried to hire people with kids they had to support. And also, kids usually did not want to work in a slaughterhouse. Nobody particularly wanted to work in one, they did it because they had a family they needed to support.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Former Darfur

    And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jack D

    , @athEIst
    @Former Darfur

    Most meat-packing jobs were high-paying and unionized. Some years ago the meat-packers broke their unions by hiring spics. Just more jobs-americans-won't-do.

    , @cipher
    @Former Darfur

    Former Darfu,

    Good points. My experience, via friends and acquaintances who'd worked in slaughterhouses, was different. My sample size is admittedly small. The former meat packers I knew were already former when I knew them. And the location was north of the traditional meat-packing belt. In fact it was fairly metropolitan compared to the locations you mentioned. Therefore my perspective is perhaps less comprehensive than yours.

  201. @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    Did you ever see the Rimbaud biographic movie with DiCaprio? I enjoyed it a lot.

    Partly because of the excellent work portraying France in the early 1870's. It was an interesting time you do not see on movies much, and represents the first few years of Peak West, when civilized Western whites were at their economic, military, and demographic peak relative to the rest of the world, ending in 1914.

    After France lost the Franco-Prussian war, the massive indemnity that France agreed to pay people worried would be crushing. As it turned out the French economy grew so extremely fast that the debt was paid early, in full, entirely in gold coin. At the same France conquered Indochina and Tunisia and engaged in massive infrastructure construction, railroads, telegraph cables, and public buildings.

    Replies: @yowza

    To grasp the full import of the tragedy of France, check out this video of Paris in 1937:

    Only analogy I can think of is, imagine Disneyland allowing generous onsite Section 8 housing.

  202. @yowza
    @PV van der Byl

    Ethiopian Folk Tale

    THE BABOON, THE HYENA AND THE JACKAL
    Narrator Unknown

    The baboon, the hyena and the jackal all lived together. The hyena and the jackal went together to a far area to hunt a goat. But the baboon annoyed them by shouting and the goats all ran away. They agreed to kill the baboon to be free.

    One day they went to the lion and told him what the baboon was doing and said, “Lord, you don’t have any shoes. Why not ask the baboon to make shoes for you?”

    The lion agreed and asked the baboon to make shoes for him.

    The baboon said, “Yes, I’ll make shoes but I need the skin of the hyena and the jackal.”

    The lion kills both hyena and jackal and now the baboon is free.

    So the baboon said, “Clean all the blood off them in the water,” and he pushed the lion into the lake.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

    Doom: Repercussions of Evil
    by Peter Chimaera

    John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn’t see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

    John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad “I want to be on the ships daddy.”

    Dad said “No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS”

    There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.

    “This is Joson” the radio crackered. “You must fight the demons!”

    So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.

    “HE GOING TO KILL US” said the demons

    “I will shoot at him” said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.

    “No! I must kill the demons” he shouted

    The radio said “No, John. You are the demons”

    And then John was a zombie.

  203. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Silber


    If the choice for treating mental illness is either Western-style excising of the frontal lobe, or having it out with a hyena, point me in the direction of the cage.
     
    That's not the only "lobe" removed, either:

    In male to female surgery, the testicles and most of the penis are removed and the urethra is cut shorter. Some of the skin is used to fashion a largely functional vagina. A "neoclitoris" that allows sensation can be created from parts of the penis. Men retain their prostates.

    In female to male surgery, the breasts, uterus and ovaries are removed (in two separate procedures). A "neophallus" can be constructed using tissue from the forearm or other parts of the body that allows sexual sensation, an expensive procedure. Extending the urethra to allow standing urination has proved to be perhaps the most difficult part of the process…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-sex-reassignment-surgery-works/

    The recent bestseller "Becoming Nicole", by the author of the above, ends in this being done to a teenager. To widespread approval.

    (The term David Reuben used in 1970 was "castrated, mutilated female impersonator".)

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @yowza

    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.

    Spoken with the arrogance and ignorance of one who has never visited Somalia, or even have friends who visited Somalia. The US is still far from the burned out, self-destructive, evil stinking shithole we call “Somalia.” If the US was just a fraction like Somalia, you wouldn’t have the balls to leave your apartment.

    I’m really getting tired of you brainless basket-cases, with your stupid strategy of trying to draw US parity with inferiors, “well, Christians had the Crusaaaades! So they’re just as bad as the invading Muslims!” because you’re too stupid, or lazy to come up with any ideas that comport with reality, or even verifiable history.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @yowza

    I know plenty of people who grew up in Somalia.

    I was referring to specific points, ones on which Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, Winston Churchill, and other ballsy men of words and action would agree. Informed of a culture somewhere that convinced itself that men can be transformed into women and buggery can consummate a valid marriage, they would place it below the most degraded relict tribes they 'd ever encountered.

    How they'd react to the news that it was their own descendants' culture is anybody's guess..

    That our toilets and telephones work better is no bragging point-- we stand on the shoulders of giants. We are on a downward trajectory.

  204. @Big Bill
    @grapesoda

    You jest, but the time is coming, big time. The only problem is that you, as a taxpayer, are going be charged.

    Everyone in the Twin Cities knows that African immigrant women chop their daughters genitals off: police, schools, clinics, and hospitals, doctors, nurses, cops, teachers and administrators. It is a dirty little secret up there.

    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Njguy73

    It can’t come soon enough.

  205. @Steve Sailer
    I've tracked the phrase "hyena cure" back to 2007 in the Chicago Tribune. But once again it comes from the enterprising Dr. Habeb:

    "Habeb fired up his office computer. He clicked through photos of hyenas to illustrate the "hyena cure"—a village therapy that involves dropping a mentally impaired person into a pit with the wild predator. The animals are supposed to scare off djinns, or evil spirits, inhabiting the patient, Habeb explained. With a snicker, he ticked off other rustic coping mechanisms for mental illness—beatings, forced starvation, smoking donkey feces."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-071115mental-story-story.html

    Replies: @Bill P

    Habeb is tapping into the old story about the Yibir. No joke. Somalis hire them to do exorcisms, and the myth – still widely believed – is that they shapeshift into hyenas. Richard Burton wrote about this in the 19th century.

    Maybe Habeb is trying to take their business by misrepresenting the practice, which is pretty lucrative for these Somali” Hebrews”.

    Koreans still hire shamans who drink chicken blood. Japanese have stories about people who shapeshift into foxes. It’s easy to make up stories when they are half true.

  206. Somalis have used Yibirs as faith healers for many centuries. Many have received amulets from them at birth for protection from Jinns (ask a Somali about it if you’re curious). Today, fundamentalist Saudi Islam is hard at work banishing these ancient traditions.

    The Western press is simply parroting fundamentalist Islamic propaganda with this story. Hardly anyone knows the background, and sadly most never will.

  207. @Steve Sailer
    Hyenas show up a fair amount in European literature. For example:

    The Hyenas

    by

    Rudyard Kipling


    After the burial-parties leave

    And the baffled kites have fled;

    The wise hyænas come out at eve

    To take account of our dead.


    How he died and why he died

    Troubles them not a whit.

    They snout the bushes and stones aside

    And dig till they come to it.


    They are only resolute they shall eat

    That they and their mates may thrive,

    And they know that the dead are safer meat

    Than the weakest thing alive.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert

    Kipling once had dinner with Mark Twain.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @Foreign Expert

    Kipling had an American wife and the two lived in Vermont where RK wrote Jungle Book.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  208. @Paul Mendez
    OT:

    Anyone know what happened to Ann Barnhardt's blog?

    Who got to her first? ISIS or the US government?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Oaklanders, @SteveRogers42

    Lady Anne is still posting. A couple of entries dated August 6.

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/

    Along with her faith in Higher Power, I hope she’s got some teammates looking out for her here in the Temporal Realm.

  209. @Chiron
    This is how primitive societies handle mental illness, Europeans did something similar in Pagan times, whit the Church came the confessions to the Priest and exorcism in the worst cases, thanks to Freud we have pshycoanalysis now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @SteveRogers42

    “Forgive us, Freud, for we have neuroses.”

  210. @Bill B.
    @ATX Hipster


    Life is an IQ test.
     
    Oh I don't know.

    I can think of several TV pundits and politicians who would benefit from Hyena Night.

    It might knock the smugness off Bill Maher for a start.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ATX Hipster, @SteveRogers42

    Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Sarah Silverman.

    Trevor Noah — oh, wait a minute…

  211. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And here's a 2011 Globe & Mail article that mentions Hyena Care:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/mentally-ill-are-stigmatized-misunderstood-and-shackled-in-somalia/article594345/

    The World Health Organization started an initiative around 2011 to get Somalis to stop chaining their insane relatives to trees. I suspect that is the source of most of the hyena stories.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc

    Hyena care : “If you like your hyena you’ll be able to keep your hyena”

  212. @SFG
    I wonder if this originates in a scam run by the shamans (who would have had to be great BS artists) in tribal times. Kid acting up? No problem, the hyena will claw the evil spirits out...wait, he's started behaving!

    Replies: @Big Bill, @SteveRogers42

    Changed his name to Amos B’havin.

  213. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    Aside from all of the facts that have been dug up about this greasy Khan artist, the most important thing for the election is the “optics” of the situation.

    Picture yourself as a “Shy Trump Voter” or one of the great undecided electorate that seldom votes because there’s no one who speaks for you. You see a weird-looking 7-11 clerk with an accent like Apu and a headscarfed senior wife who looks like Jabba the Hutt — and this alien is waving the Constitution around and lecturing all of us about his transcendent superiority.

    Are Joe and Jane Sixpack now more or less likely, on an instinctual gut level, to vote for Trump?

    I don’t think Khan plays in Peoria.

  214. @Svigor

    When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).
     
    It can be tough to keep the sub-Saharan barbarities straight. Maybe we can use something like the Dewey Decimal System to keep it all sorted.

    Replies: @Grandpa Jack, @SteveRogers42

    Maybe P.J. O’Rourke could update his classic National Lampoon article:

  215. @Tom-in-VA
    Sure, it's funny now. Wait until the cultural enrichers start killing albinos in Europe and the US for their magical body parts.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    What’s the over-under for the date of the first verified incident?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @SteveRogers42

    Probably a while, since surely an actual white person has far greater medicinal value than a mere African albino.

  216. @Kylie
    Meanwhile here in the States, Dems have raised millions of dollars to elect Cacklepants as Hyena-in-Chief.

    But Somalis are the crazy ones.

    Replies: @dearieme, @SteveRogers42

    See anon’s comment about female hyena’s plumbing. This is uncanny!

  217. Someone needs to market “Hyena Therapy” to unmoored whites who are into reiki/aromatherapy/ear candling/rolfing/reflexology/peyote sweat lodges.
    $$$ to be made.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...


    Someone needs to market “Hyena Therapy” to unmoored whites who are into reiki/aromatherapy/ear candling/rolfing/reflexology/peyote sweat lodges.
    $$$ to be made.
     
    (drooling)

    Go on, I'm listening.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

  218. @JohnnyWalker123
    To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena.

    Replies: @Kylie, @SteveRogers42, @Pericles

    Ummm…isn’t she usually locked up for the night with Huma?

  219. So, if the hyena doesn’t maul you it is because it sees the evil spirits and is frightened and stays away from you and then you know you need to have a more drastic African witchcraft exorcism, but if it does maul you then you know you don’t have evil spirits?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Kind of like if you sink into the river, then you're not a witch because the river accepts you.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  220. Meanwhile, in the new hi-tech India

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3352dc8c-5c63-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html

    “Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has broken his silence on growing violence by so-called cow defence squads, denouncing the vigilantes as “miscreants” who are tarnishing the idea of cow sewa or serving cows.

    Mr Modi’s comments follow a string of violent – sometimes lethal – vigilante and mob attacks on Muslims and low-caste Hindus for transporting cattle, disposing of the carcasses of dead bovines or eating beef. “

  221. @Hippopotamusdrome
    So, if the hyena doesn't maul you it is because it sees the evil spirits and is frightened and stays away from you and then you know you need to have a more drastic African witchcraft exorcism, but if it does maul you then you know you don't have evil spirits?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Kind of like if you sink into the river, then you’re not a witch because the river accepts you.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Steve Sailer

    So if she weighs as much as a duck, then she is made of wood, so she must be a witch?

  222. @Harry Baldwin
    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/

    Replies: @Trelane, @yowza, @Paris Hanoi Hilton

    Funny, they don’t look Jooooish.

  223. @JohnnyWalker123
    To showcase her commitment to diversity, Hillary should be locked in a hut for one night with a hyena.

    Replies: @Kylie, @SteveRogers42, @Pericles

    Two hyenas go in, one comes out.

  224. @Former Darfur
    @cipher

    Actually, slaughterhouse work was a career more often than not for American workers when Americans did it. It paid a relatively high income for the crummy towns like Emporia, KS, where the slaughterhouses were located-maybe $10-13 an hour when McD's paid $3.35 in the eighties-and though some younger workers did move on from there, usually that was where you stayed unless you moved out of town. Working in a slaughterhouse didn't give you too many skills besides cutting up animals.

    Occasionally people moved up from the line into supervisory jobs, where they would retire out from usually. But it was not an entry job for kids-there were more applicants than jobs and they usually tried to hire people with kids they had to support. And also, kids usually did not want to work in a slaughterhouse. Nobody particularly wanted to work in one, they did it because they had a family they needed to support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @athEIst, @cipher

    And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar


    "And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days."
     
    Can an automated abbatoir be halal, or do you need human intervention? Just askin ....
    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIv6WtSF9I

  225. @yowza
    @SFG


    I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)
     
    Khan, if you'd bother to have a vague idea of what you're talking about, is a long-time Sharia law activist, Visa abuse enabler for Sharia Muslims to the US, and overall shitshow.

    Here's one of his many published papers highlighting his devotion to Sharia law:

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/320016152/Khizr-Khan-Juristic-Classification-Islamic-Law

    It may interest you to know that Sharia Law is antithetical to the Constitution of the United States. If anyone needs a hyena primer on the Constitution, it's that nasty little Muslim blob, and his fat, brainless, subservient wife.

    Khan is a paid shill for the Saudis, and spent all his time in Saudi Arabia, again advocating for Sharia law. Ironically, the reason this festering Muslim toad's son is dead is because of devotees to Sharia law. They wanted his apostate son dead, and they killed him.

    Good rule of thumb for you, if not looking like a stupid asshole is of any interest to you, might be to suspect the motives of immigrants taking a political stance until fully vetted. Cancers are better than even they're lying.

    In any case under the circumstances, your claim that Trump "whaled" on Saudi-Clinton sock puppet, and qualified piece of shit Khan, is laughable.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Kyle

    Dammit, son, you are on a roll! But you left out a key point. Khan does not just follow Sharia law, he is a Shari law Supremacist.

    In his scholarly Saudi writings Khan explicitly says that Sharia law trumps all other law developed in the last 1300 years! Yet he waves around a Constitution and kvells about the Founding Fathers!

    Khan, like countless other subversives, has discovered the truth: waving muh Constitution is Kryptonite to the American mind. Just talk “freedom”, “liberty”, “the American Way”, wave around a “Constitution”, and cuckservative chumps will collapse.

    Now that the Khan facts are coming out, is it any wonder the Dems and MSM have gagged him with complete radio silence?

  226. @Louis Renault
    What kind of subsidy can I get if I start an organic khat farm with free range hyenas?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    “What kind of subsidy can I get if I start an organic khat farm with free range hyenas?”

    You will undoubtedly get an allocation of rights to bestow E3 visa job-opportunities on hard-working, unskilled Somalis who just want to contribute to our gorgeous mosaic while they make a better life for themselves and their children … yes, there are always children to think about, and with a Somali it is usually 6 to 7 per woman.

    Your right to bestow E3 visa job-opportunities will be highly valued by the NGOs who have turned importing unskilled third world labour into a growth industry, so you will have plenty of opportunities to earn fees for helping them place their wares. And then there are, of course, job placement credits and subsidies from all levels of government … isn’t Federalism grand?

    But why limit yourself to Somalis? If you really want to go for the gold, check out the US Diversity visa programme: https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/diversity-visa/dv-2015-selected-entrants.html

  227. @Steve Sailer
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Kind of like if you sink into the river, then you're not a witch because the river accepts you.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    So if she weighs as much as a duck, then she is made of wood, so she must be a witch?

  228. @Reg Cæsar
    @Former Darfur

    And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jack D

    “And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days.”

    Can an automated abbatoir be halal, or do you need human intervention? Just askin ….

  229. @Former Darfur
    @cipher

    Actually, slaughterhouse work was a career more often than not for American workers when Americans did it. It paid a relatively high income for the crummy towns like Emporia, KS, where the slaughterhouses were located-maybe $10-13 an hour when McD's paid $3.35 in the eighties-and though some younger workers did move on from there, usually that was where you stayed unless you moved out of town. Working in a slaughterhouse didn't give you too many skills besides cutting up animals.

    Occasionally people moved up from the line into supervisory jobs, where they would retire out from usually. But it was not an entry job for kids-there were more applicants than jobs and they usually tried to hire people with kids they had to support. And also, kids usually did not want to work in a slaughterhouse. Nobody particularly wanted to work in one, they did it because they had a family they needed to support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @athEIst, @cipher

    Most meat-packing jobs were high-paying and unionized. Some years ago the meat-packers broke their unions by hiring spics. Just more jobs-americans-won’t-do.

  230. @Foreign Expert
    @Steve Sailer

    Kipling once had dinner with Mark Twain.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Kipling had an American wife and the two lived in Vermont where RK wrote Jungle Book.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @PV van der Byl

    "Kipling had an American wife and the two lived in Vermont where RK wrote Jungle Book."
    We all make mistakes.

  231. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    Thousands more! Millions more!

    Our handlers will be making that Billions! and Trillions! if they can.

    For some reason, the working model here treats people like they are a limited natural resource akin to a precious metal. Don’t the taste makers notice that we can make any number of people? It is an industrial process: feed in raw materials, and people come out the other side. It is a math problem: x amount of raw material; y amount of people.

    I’m reminded of the Marvel comic people on a planet orbiting the star Rigel: their overpopulation became so severe that they went insane from the press of the bodies.

  232. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Someone needs to market "Hyena Therapy" to unmoored whites who are into reiki/aromatherapy/ear candling/rolfing/reflexology/peyote sweat lodges.
    $$$ to be made.

    Replies: @Njguy73

    Someone needs to market “Hyena Therapy” to unmoored whites who are into reiki/aromatherapy/ear candling/rolfing/reflexology/peyote sweat lodges.
    $$$ to be made.

    (drooling)

    Go on, I’m listening.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Njguy73

    Go on, I’m listening. -
    "Hey Saffron! wow, that's a nasty scar".
    "Oh yeah, that's from the Hyena Therapy (TM) deal. I think it's healing".
    "Those puncture marks on your thigh are wicked. Is that bone in that hole?"

  233. @Big Bill
    @grapesoda

    You jest, but the time is coming, big time. The only problem is that you, as a taxpayer, are going be charged.

    Everyone in the Twin Cities knows that African immigrant women chop their daughters genitals off: police, schools, clinics, and hospitals, doctors, nurses, cops, teachers and administrators. It is a dirty little secret up there.

    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Njguy73

    Sooner or later, an enterprising lawyer is going to file a class action suit against the hospitals, schools, cities and counties with hundreds of these girls as plaintiffs. The settlement is going to be huge.

    Spotlight II: The Hacking

    Coming December 2022.

  234. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Hyenas are basically scavengers who chew up what’s left of big cat kills.

    Talking of pseudo-folk tales, morality tales, and Steve’s current hyena fixation, not to mention immigration, perhaps ‘Hyena therapy’ as practised a la Merkel means the ultimate triumph of the ‘scavengers’ – at the national level, whilst the noble ‘big cats’ the possessors and rightful owners are driven off.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Anonymous

    Hyenas do the jobs big cats just won't do.

  235. @The Alarmist
    And now you know why Somalis make ideal meat packing plant employees, a job Americans won't do, which is one reason (seriously!) why the US imports so many Somalis each year.

    Replies: @Paul Yarbles, @cipher, @Paul Yarbles

    Hey Steve, why is my reply to Alarmist still in moderation? It’s an appropriate excerpt from Raspail’s The Camp of the Saints.

  236. Somali Rx: Take two hyenas and call me in the mauling.

  237. @SteveRogers42
    @Tom-in-VA

    What's the over-under for the date of the first verified incident?

    Replies: @snorlax

    Probably a while, since surely an actual white person has far greater medicinal value than a mere African albino.

  238. @Steve Sailer
    Anthropologist Marcus Baynes-Rock spent over a year following the hyena scavengers around the medieval streets of Harar, Ethiopia:

    In a wider, African context, the above statement speaks of an exception to a rule. In general, hyenas are not well liked. Indeed, hyenas are usually feared, loathed, vilified, derided, persecuted and where people have the means, eradicated. Often, hyenas are associated with what are called witches (Johnstone 1902, p. 265; Morris 2000, p. 168).

    Hyenas' nocturnal habits, human-like giggles and propensity to exhume and consume human corpses makes them obvious companions to people exercising supernatural means to malevolent ends (Gray 1963, p. 167). Often the hyenas do the bidding of the witches, bringing home fresh human meat, or else they are ridden through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses (Beidelman 1963, p. 65; 1975, p. 190; Gray 1963, p. 166). In many countries, witches are believed to transform
    into
    hyenas and prowl around at night looking for victims to eat (Niehaus 1995, p. 514; Rutherford 1999, p. 95; Sapir 1981, p. 533).

    https://www.academia.edu/7109672/Hyenas_Like_Us_Social_Relations_with_an_Urban_Carnivore_in_Harar_Ethiopia

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    “…through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses”

    I’m still trying to figure out what distinguishes Hillary from the other hyenas.

  239. @Former Darfur
    @cipher

    Actually, slaughterhouse work was a career more often than not for American workers when Americans did it. It paid a relatively high income for the crummy towns like Emporia, KS, where the slaughterhouses were located-maybe $10-13 an hour when McD's paid $3.35 in the eighties-and though some younger workers did move on from there, usually that was where you stayed unless you moved out of town. Working in a slaughterhouse didn't give you too many skills besides cutting up animals.

    Occasionally people moved up from the line into supervisory jobs, where they would retire out from usually. But it was not an entry job for kids-there were more applicants than jobs and they usually tried to hire people with kids they had to support. And also, kids usually did not want to work in a slaughterhouse. Nobody particularly wanted to work in one, they did it because they had a family they needed to support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @athEIst, @cipher

    Former Darfu,

    Good points. My experience, via friends and acquaintances who’d worked in slaughterhouses, was different. My sample size is admittedly small. The former meat packers I knew were already former when I knew them. And the location was north of the traditional meat-packing belt. In fact it was fairly metropolitan compared to the locations you mentioned. Therefore my perspective is perhaps less comprehensive than yours.

  240. @Keith Vaz
    White countries should turn a blind eye to the cat in their dindu populations, it might lower their numbers and make them docile. Prison officers like heroin.

    Replies: @Nico

    White countries should turn a blind eye to the cat in their dindu populations, it might lower their numbers and make them docile. Prison officers like heroin.

    Notwithstanding The Narrative’s incessant whining about the War on Drugs as some sort of Negro Extermination method, the African-derived element in the West has continued to breed quite prolifically.

  241. @yowza
    @Harry Baldwin


    Some great photos of Africans with pet hyenas at this site:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria/
     
    Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena's like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn't help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke.

    It wasn't supposed to be insightful and prescient, god dammit.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena’s like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn’t help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke.”

    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented. But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race. My black friends who own pit bulls not only give their dogs good, loving homes, they also advocate tirelessly for pits. I would without hesitation give my bullies into their care.

    I don’t know this guy but I love this video.

    • Replies: @yowza
    @Kylie


    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented.
     
    Your best estimates contradict your own premise, sparky.
    Logic is math. Math is hard for some. Math is hard for you. Don't be arrogant with your handicap.

    But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race.
     
    Since you're intent on coming up with a specific conclusion without the evidence to support it, we'll give your assertions all the consideration that is due.

    Replies: @Kylie

  242. @wren
    A few years ago I read of plans to settle Somalis in Vermont.

    That is an interesting juxtaposition of cultures, I thought.

    I wonder how that is working out? A quick Google search does not turn up much.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1, @Brutusale, @iSteveFan, @CCZ, @Saint Louis, @IBC

    Here’s an interesting article about a Somali Bantu woman in Vermont which simultaneously touches on several iSteve themes:

    http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/hate-crime-victim-fatuma-bulle-advocates-for-refugee-women-and-families/Content?oid=3421114

    Somali refugees are actually from at least two different groups: ethnic Somalis and Somali “Bantus.” Supposedly, Somali Bantus are descended from slaves originally brought to Somalia from other parts of Africa and suffer a lower social status there due to that history. From what I’ve seen, Somali Bantus dress and act more or less like ethnic Somalis, but facially they look more like other black Africans.

    It sounds like the integration and assimilation of Vermont’s Somali refugees is probably going about as well as could be expected given the ideologies at play –the woman in the above article is even a member of BLM! Interestingly, even Vermont’s own “Muslim community” supposedly has an internal problem with stereotyping. I know a significant number of Vermont Muslims are of Bosnian origin, but I haven’t heard whether they’re being blamed for this yet (and in fact they may be innocent).

    Sevendaysvt.com is a great left-wing news source for Burlington and Vermont in general.

  243. @Reg Cæsar
    @Former Darfur

    And no industry is riper than meat processing for automation. Nobody should be losing digits and limbs in any job these days.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jack D

  244. @Pat Casey
    In defense of the folk, I'm pretty sure any belief as severely provocative as this one has some truth if not worth testing at least worth pondering. Unless, that is, this belief about hyenas started yesterday. ie, I don't think it would still be around if it didn't work well enough to become a live tradition, survival of the fittest and such. And really the reason isn't hard to imagine. We know they can smell fear but more particularly human emotions emit an electric frequency that variably vibrates which dogs can also sense. Hyenas can probably do it too. So when they sense human psychosis they probably start acting frightening, because they are sensing unusual emotions in an unusual situation, and if the patient makes it out alive his gratitude that the treatment is over cures him. For it is old wisdom of the folk indeed that gratitude defeats doubt, doubt the state of an unsound mind.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Pat, Interesting thoughts on the subject, but in the USA therapy animals are warm and friendly and extremely docile, a soothing presence, as opposed to a deadly threat. My daughter is a psychologist, yes sometimes the apple falls far from the tree, but she was appalled by this procedure and thought I was pulling her leg. Remember, in liberal colleges, PC thought trumps commenting on bizarre cultural practices.

  245. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "When I first saw hyena in the title, for a moment I thought this would be about the Malawi hyenas – men who get paid to have sex with 12-year-old girls as ritual cleansing (and end up infecting them with HIV).'

    Africa has so many STDs that you can get AIDS from just sitting on a public toilet there to do a number 2.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Jeff, Not so sure about sitting on a toilet, but drinking from one could be detrimental to your health.

  246. @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)"

    Yes. Really. And why not?

    Is Khan somehow immune from criticism when he makes himself a political actor? He appeared at a political convention to attack Trump from behind the body of his dead son. I found it to be insulting and offensive - for this little pakistani poppinjay to wag the Constitution at us - the fundamental law of my country, authored by my people. My people created this country. Not his. His people created Pakistan. He has no business lecturing me about my nation. Then there is this about Khan:

    1.) He works, or has worked, as an agent of a foreign government (Saudi Arabia).

    2.) He worked for a firm that represented Hillary Clinton.

    3.) He is a proponent of Sharia Law - for him to lecture us on the US Constitution is an act of insolence and effrontery.

    4.) His son is one of only 14 muslims killed in our recent wars (the first fifteen years of John McCain's Hundred Years War). Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 American soldiers in one day at Fort Hood.

    Hillary Clinton's Bapu Bhat stand-in ("Donald Trump is a very bad man.....a very, very bad man!") shouldn't get a pass from anyone.

    And where did this "Gold Star Family" stuff come from anyway? I never heard that term until last week. Like "The Homeland", it seems to be one of these new security-state, permanent-war terms that arose in the wake of 9/11. Last time I checked, we don't live in the "Starship Troopers" universe, where only military service guarantees citizenship. Having a relative who was killed in war doesn't mean you get the privelege of never ever having any of your opinions questioned. This sure as Hell isn't the country I was born in.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jefferson, @Djinn Fizz, @Paris Hanoi Hilton, @Swizzle Stick, @Anonymous

    A Gold Star mother refers to earlier wars this country has been in, like World Wars I and II. A Gold Star mother is a mother whose son (and now it would include daughter) has been killed in combat.

  247. @Brutusale
    @415 reasons

    I just saw it as marketing to the correct customer. Do white people with measurable IQs drink colored sugar water anymore?

    Replies: @Bleuteaux

    Yes. In my ugly corner of Corporate America, Mountain Dew has replaced the morning coffee. For something like 50% of employees.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Bleuteaux

    Mountain Dew to wash down the Skittles. Now there is a dentist's annuity.

    , @Brutusale
    @Bleuteaux

    I number them with the deluded overweight women I see ordering large, low-fat caramel macchiatos with extra caramel. The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation's taste buds.

    Tens years ago I replaced the sugar in my coffee with cinnamon. At my age, every little bit helps!

    Replies: @Ozymandias

  248. @L Woods
    @Divine Right

    It's true. Anyone who's had any experience with today's military knows 90% of it is little more than a uniformed DMV.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux

    Service in combat is one thing, obviously. But the perks of being an officer doing a desk job somewhere are unreal. I know people who don’t want to leave for the private sector because their overall compensation would be cut in half. This crying poor thing on behalf of a lot of the military is outdated.

  249. @Bleuteaux
    @Brutusale

    Yes. In my ugly corner of Corporate America, Mountain Dew has replaced the morning coffee. For something like 50% of employees.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Brutusale

    Mountain Dew to wash down the Skittles. Now there is a dentist’s annuity.

  250. @Kylie
    @yowza

    "Somebody, earlier in this comments thread, made a rather cynical joke about black people probably commandeering hyena’s like blacks here do pit bulls.

    It was supposed to be a joke, commenting on a supposed black penchant towards mistreating and exploiting over-the-top animals for personal gain, as if they couldn’t help themselves. As if it was a part of their nature.

    It was supposed to be a rather mean joke."

    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented. But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race. My black friends who own pit bulls not only give their dogs good, loving homes, they also advocate tirelessly for pits. I would without hesitation give my bullies into their care.

    I don't know this guy but I love this video.

    https://youtu.be/4BoR4PxOc9s

    Replies: @yowza

    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented.

    Your best estimates contradict your own premise, sparky.
    Logic is math. Math is hard for some. Math is hard for you. Don’t be arrogant with your handicap.

    But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race.

    Since you’re intent on coming up with a specific conclusion without the evidence to support it, we’ll give your assertions all the consideration that is due.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @yowza

    No contradiction in my observing that animal abuse/neglect seems evenly distributed among blacks, mestizos, whites and Asians but that class (i.e., income and education) seems to be a more reliable marker. Proportionate to their share of the population, there are more low-income, less-educated blacks and mestizos than there are whites and Asians.

    I'm not going to bother to reply to you again. You should be working on your reading skills and manners. That wouldn't do you any good but it would keep you too busy to post here.

  251. @SFG
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'm not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)

    The point is that for all his numerous flaws, he's the best chance to stop immigration, and this strikes me as a reminder that there are real issues out there that will be affected by the result of the election...and if Trump loses, the right needs to be ready to fight back to prevent amnesty again.

    Ryan may want immigration, but if enough Republican senators and representatives, under pressure in their home districts not to let amnesty through, resist Hillary, she doesn't have to be any more successful than Obama was. You're still just swapping out one Democrat for another in the White House.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Johan Schmidt, @yowza, @Harry Baldwin, @Divine Right, @Mr. Anon, @SteveRogers42, @SFG

    I can’t respond to everyone, so I will admit that, yes, Khan’s dad was a Muslim activist and, yes, they still look ‘foreign’. And, of course, a connection to the military doesn’t make you above criticism. I just think he fell into the trap the Democrats laid, and he’s been trailing in the polls lately (though some of this may be Hill’s convention bounce). I’m wrong. It happens. 😉

  252. @yowza
    @SFG


    I’m not so crazy about Trump myself. (Whaling on a Gold Star family? Really?)
     
    Khan, if you'd bother to have a vague idea of what you're talking about, is a long-time Sharia law activist, Visa abuse enabler for Sharia Muslims to the US, and overall shitshow.

    Here's one of his many published papers highlighting his devotion to Sharia law:

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/320016152/Khizr-Khan-Juristic-Classification-Islamic-Law

    It may interest you to know that Sharia Law is antithetical to the Constitution of the United States. If anyone needs a hyena primer on the Constitution, it's that nasty little Muslim blob, and his fat, brainless, subservient wife.

    Khan is a paid shill for the Saudis, and spent all his time in Saudi Arabia, again advocating for Sharia law. Ironically, the reason this festering Muslim toad's son is dead is because of devotees to Sharia law. They wanted his apostate son dead, and they killed him.

    Good rule of thumb for you, if not looking like a stupid asshole is of any interest to you, might be to suspect the motives of immigrants taking a political stance until fully vetted. Cancers are better than even they're lying.

    In any case under the circumstances, your claim that Trump "whaled" on Saudi-Clinton sock puppet, and qualified piece of shit Khan, is laughable.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Kyle

    Hyena primer? Is that where you’re locked in a room with the beast an not allowed out until you finish reading your assignment?

  253. @Anonymous
    Hyenas are basically scavengers who chew up what's left of big cat kills.

    Talking of pseudo-folk tales, morality tales, and Steve's current hyena fixation, not to mention immigration, perhaps 'Hyena therapy' as practised a la Merkel means the ultimate triumph of the 'scavengers' - at the national level, whilst the noble 'big cats' the possessors and rightful owners are driven off.

    Replies: @Kyle

    Hyenas do the jobs big cats just won’t do.

  254. @Njguy73
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...


    Someone needs to market “Hyena Therapy” to unmoored whites who are into reiki/aromatherapy/ear candling/rolfing/reflexology/peyote sweat lodges.
    $$$ to be made.
     
    (drooling)

    Go on, I'm listening.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    Go on, I’m listening. –
    “Hey Saffron! wow, that’s a nasty scar”.
    “Oh yeah, that’s from the Hyena Therapy (TM) deal. I think it’s healing”.
    “Those puncture marks on your thigh are wicked. Is that bone in that hole?”

  255. @Whiskey
    Hillary! attacked a Gold Star mother, one of the mothers of the Benghazi dead. No big deal there. Trump responds to attacks on him by a Sharia-loving shyster Pakistani lawyer with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, Pakistans ISIS, the Saudi Govt, and who was paid $375K large by the Clinton Foundation and suddenly he's an evil bigot and drops 14 points overnight.

    God save us from Nice White Ladies.

    Trump's only strength is being the funny WWE heel. He needed to get out there and start publicizing this stuff. Like Somalis lock up their many, many crazies with hyenas. That makes even the Nicest Nice White Lady and their male enablers like Paul Ryan think "hey Trump's got something, and he's funny."

    There is a biological reason humor is so effective, it produces social dominance and by ridiculing others produces social inferiority. The terrain Trump vs. Media/Hillary are fighting over is social dominance. Most voters neither know nor care sadly about Hillary's plan to flood the US with 100 million Third worlders in just a few years, and hundreds of millions more thereafter.

    That's bad but people won't change. Instead Trump abandoned his WWE funny heel Chris Jericho persona and became Casper Milquetoast. Meekly and obediently doing Paul Ryan's and John McCain's bidding while they continue to display their loathing. Its stupid but his kids don't know anything but Media dominance and crave like Meghan McCain media acceptance more than they do their father's power as President.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    A minor quibble, but Pat Smith is not a Gold Star mother.

  256. @yowza
    @Reg Cæsar


    We can put a man on the moon, then pretend to make a woman of him. A society this far gone is in no position to make fun of Somalis.
     
    Spoken with the arrogance and ignorance of one who has never visited Somalia, or even have friends who visited Somalia. The US is still far from the burned out, self-destructive, evil stinking shithole we call "Somalia." If the US was just a fraction like Somalia, you wouldn't have the balls to leave your apartment.

    I'm really getting tired of you brainless basket-cases, with your stupid strategy of trying to draw US parity with inferiors, "well, Christians had the Crusaaaades! So they're just as bad as the invading Muslims!" because you're too stupid, or lazy to come up with any ideas that comport with reality, or even verifiable history.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I know plenty of people who grew up in Somalia.

    I was referring to specific points, ones on which Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, Winston Churchill, and other ballsy men of words and action would agree. Informed of a culture somewhere that convinced itself that men can be transformed into women and buggery can consummate a valid marriage, they would place it below the most degraded relict tribes they ‘d ever encountered.

    How they’d react to the news that it was their own descendants’ culture is anybody’s guess..

    That our toilets and telephones work better is no bragging point– we stand on the shoulders of giants. We are on a downward trajectory.

  257. @Bleuteaux
    @Brutusale

    Yes. In my ugly corner of Corporate America, Mountain Dew has replaced the morning coffee. For something like 50% of employees.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Brutusale

    I number them with the deluded overweight women I see ordering large, low-fat caramel macchiatos with extra caramel. The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation’s taste buds.

    Tens years ago I replaced the sugar in my coffee with cinnamon. At my age, every little bit helps!

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @Brutusale

    "The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation’s taste buds."

    Evolution tuned those taste buds to be inclined towards sweet tastes, not the food industry. Western man's environment has changed into one where nutrient rich food is available all the time, something he is not yet adapted to. Any species that is still evolving is in a constant state of lagging behind its environment.

    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap. The most insidious aspect of corn syrup is that it's even cheaper than sugar, causing the practice of adding sweetener to become more widespread. They even add corn syrup to canned corn. Surveys show that people like it, so they keep adding it.

    If you don't like it, stop buying it. More and more people are doing just that. In response, you're seeing more labels with 'No HFCS' on them. I look for them. And I grew up in an era where breakfast cereals were pure concentrated sugar with possibly some meth sprinkled on top. Most of them had "Sugar" right in the name, like it was a bonus or something. But my taste buds somehow weren't ruined.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

  258. @Brutusale
    @Bleuteaux

    I number them with the deluded overweight women I see ordering large, low-fat caramel macchiatos with extra caramel. The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation's taste buds.

    Tens years ago I replaced the sugar in my coffee with cinnamon. At my age, every little bit helps!

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    “The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation’s taste buds.”

    Evolution tuned those taste buds to be inclined towards sweet tastes, not the food industry. Western man’s environment has changed into one where nutrient rich food is available all the time, something he is not yet adapted to. Any species that is still evolving is in a constant state of lagging behind its environment.

    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap. The most insidious aspect of corn syrup is that it’s even cheaper than sugar, causing the practice of adding sweetener to become more widespread. They even add corn syrup to canned corn. Surveys show that people like it, so they keep adding it.

    If you don’t like it, stop buying it. More and more people are doing just that. In response, you’re seeing more labels with ‘No HFCS’ on them. I look for them. And I grew up in an era where breakfast cereals were pure concentrated sugar with possibly some meth sprinkled on top. Most of them had “Sugar” right in the name, like it was a bonus or something. But my taste buds somehow weren’t ruined.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Ozymandias



    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap.

     

    Sugar tastes better than HFCS in food products. People are just too cheap. Hipsters buy Mexican Coke (soda) because it uses cane sugar. In Mexico, cane sugar is cheaper than corn.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  259. @Dumbo
    Bring more! Thousands more! Millions more! Bring the hyenas too. Diversity is our strength.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Blobby5, @Father O'Hara, @Grandpa Jack, @Buffalo Joe, @Father O'Hara, @bomag, @Olorin

    Not to detract from your magnificent javaspew comment…but when I worked in “big city” (i.e., small city, 70% black) ER and trauma treatment, infants, children, and elders were constantly brought in who’d been savaged by canines. Sorry to say, not just from the biting end of the beast.

    Some had been so injured deliberately by closing them in rooms with them.

    Especially the elders, who had this habit of having needs, when all they were kept around for was their SS disability and other welfare checks.

    This isn’t about hyenas. It’s about population genetics.

    The Somalis have PTSD indeed: Plenty of Terrible Somali DNA.

  260. @yowza
    @Kylie


    It was a mean joke. My Facebook page is devoted to helping dogs in need. My best estimate is that dog abuse and neglect are found in equal measure among black, mestizos, whites and Asians. Of course this means blacks and mestizos are overrepresented.
     
    Your best estimates contradict your own premise, sparky.
    Logic is math. Math is hard for some. Math is hard for you. Don't be arrogant with your handicap.

    But class seems to be a better indicator of abuse/neglect than race.
     
    Since you're intent on coming up with a specific conclusion without the evidence to support it, we'll give your assertions all the consideration that is due.

    Replies: @Kylie

    No contradiction in my observing that animal abuse/neglect seems evenly distributed among blacks, mestizos, whites and Asians but that class (i.e., income and education) seems to be a more reliable marker. Proportionate to their share of the population, there are more low-income, less-educated blacks and mestizos than there are whites and Asians.

    I’m not going to bother to reply to you again. You should be working on your reading skills and manners. That wouldn’t do you any good but it would keep you too busy to post here.

  261. @Ozymandias
    @Brutusale

    "The processed foods industry, by putting extra sugar in everything, has ruined a generation’s taste buds."

    Evolution tuned those taste buds to be inclined towards sweet tastes, not the food industry. Western man's environment has changed into one where nutrient rich food is available all the time, something he is not yet adapted to. Any species that is still evolving is in a constant state of lagging behind its environment.

    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap. The most insidious aspect of corn syrup is that it's even cheaper than sugar, causing the practice of adding sweetener to become more widespread. They even add corn syrup to canned corn. Surveys show that people like it, so they keep adding it.

    If you don't like it, stop buying it. More and more people are doing just that. In response, you're seeing more labels with 'No HFCS' on them. I look for them. And I grew up in an era where breakfast cereals were pure concentrated sugar with possibly some meth sprinkled on top. Most of them had "Sugar" right in the name, like it was a bonus or something. But my taste buds somehow weren't ruined.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap.

    Sugar tastes better than HFCS in food products. People are just too cheap. Hipsters buy Mexican Coke (soda) because it uses cane sugar. In Mexico, cane sugar is cheaper than corn.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Cane sugar is 5 times more expensive in the US than the world price because 6 Florida sugar cane growers bought the political filth in Washington DC.

  262. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Ozymandias



    The food industry puts HFCS into everything because people like it and will keep buying that crap.

     

    Sugar tastes better than HFCS in food products. People are just too cheap. Hipsters buy Mexican Coke (soda) because it uses cane sugar. In Mexico, cane sugar is cheaper than corn.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Cane sugar is 5 times more expensive in the US than the world price because 6 Florida sugar cane growers bought the political filth in Washington DC.

  263. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Nice work-how do I get that gig?? I don't have any STDs so I can do it with a clear conscience!

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    So you want to rape children.
    That tells us everything we need to know about you.

  264. @PV van der Byl
    @Foreign Expert

    Kipling had an American wife and the two lived in Vermont where RK wrote Jungle Book.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    “Kipling had an American wife and the two lived in Vermont where RK wrote Jungle Book.”
    We all make mistakes.

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