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And in Los Angeles:

Black Lives Matter is back! And just in time for Trump’s re-election campaign.

 
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  1. Shut up, Karen.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Bucky

    She's assuming it's looting when it could just be contactless curbside pickup

  2. DVDs might actually be valuable now for the retro market.

  3. >The media could not be played<

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @newrouter

    Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same

  4. Can’t blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America’s future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being “persecuted”. The cops in NYC stopped making arrests in the 70s and 80s because they knew the “civil-rights” people would be all over them if they got rough, and the city sunk into criminal anarchy.

    • Agree: Morris Applebaum IV
    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Rich

    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let's face it, you can't kneel on some guy's neck until he dies no matter what his color is.

    Blacks will always turn these cases into racial events and start rioting, which, unfortunately, obscures the real problem: too many cops are out-and-out violent goons. I would not put the term "civil rights" in derisive scare quotes. I fully expect that my First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendment rights will be honored. Yet the cops and the courts violate them routinely, and with impunity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome

    , @duncsbaby
    @Rich

    Can’t blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America’s future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being “persecuted”.

    Unfortunately all I've seen on twitter is everyone (conservatives included) assuming that the cop murdered George Floyd, that his knee to the throat was a death blow. I don't know what happened but I doubt this is what killed Floyd. The guy probably had underlying medical conditions, was probably drunk and/or high, had already fought with police (hence the use of force), it's highly doubtful that any cop murdered this idiot.
    Of course I could be wrong but I doubt it. It doesn't matter, everyone has already decided this guy was killed by cops even w/out an autopsy done on the guy yet. What a shit-show.

    Replies: @Sean

  5. Funny they don’t tell us which of the many stores in Target’s hometown this one is. But it looks like the one on East Lake Street, as you can see the Planet Fitness nearby.

    This is where the Somalis of a dozen blocks north could be of help. They know how to deal with individuals like this.

    Before:

    After:

    What good is diversity if you can’t take advantage of it?

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  6. The longer the rioting, the more votes the GOP picks up.

    We’d also rather not have Klobuchar on the ticket.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    @216

    Trump's Luck holds. The Soros funded 2015/16 riots and mass murders were a boon to his campaign. These will be as well(unfortunately)

    I think Minneapolis might see some arson tonight. Small business owners feeling the pinch might want to collect some insurance money.

    Replies: @danand

  7. What, no rooftop Koreans up there?

  8. Despite looking like a sullen junkie, this chick in RT hits the nail squarely:

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/489945-police-killing-minneapolis-racial-division/

    [MORE]

    Race war or bust? MSM smothers racial unity over police killing of Minneapolis man by reminding blacks & whites to hate each other

    Helen Buyniski
    27 May, 2020 21:24

    The brutal police murder of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis united all races and political stripes in shocked outrage. So why is MSM invoking every racially-divisive incident they can to set society at each other’s throats?

    Liberals and conservatives alike were horrified on Monday by a widely-circulated Facebook video showing a white police officer choking an unarmed, handcuffed black man to death by kneeling on his neck for upwards of seven minutes, ignoring his increasingly feeble cries for help until he went limp. Regardless of their race, viewers demanded the officer – Minneapolis Police Department’s Derek Chauvin – be charged with murder and cheered at the news he and three colleagues present during the Memorial Day incident had been suspended from the force.

    Given the country’s oft-lamented polarization, it’s rare to see such broad agreement on something as controversial as a police killing. But the sight of George Floyd struggling to wheeze out “I can’t breathe” while Chauvin mocked the anguished cries of onlookers convinced many to put aside their ideological feuds and get outraged. Seeing the life slowly choked out of the 46-year-old for nothing more than allegedly “resisting arrest” over supposedly forging a check at a supermarket was beyond the pale.

    this is neat pic.twitter.com/0XMHjpSpp3
    — shoe (@shoe0nhead) May 27, 2020

    Mainstream media’s narrative managers were determined to shatter that unity, however.

    Thousands of protesters marched on Minneapolis’ third police precinct headquarters on Tuesday, carrying banners demanding justice for Floyd and his family. While a small group broke windows and sprayed graffiti en route, the riot-gear-clad cops met the entire racially-heterogeneous group as if it were an invading army, hurling stun grenades and firing rubber bullets and tear gas into the crowd. At least one woman was shot in the head.

    Journalists and politicians on social media reacted to this appalling show of excessive force not by unilaterally condemning police violence – that would risk cementing the dreaded “unity” – but by contrasting the crackdown with last month’s docile police response to a “Liberate Minnesota” protest against the state’s Covid-19 lockdown. Hundreds of mostly-white protesters, many strapped with guns, had surrounded the Governor’s Residence of Democrat Tim Walz, demanding an end to the pandemic-inspired stay-at-home order.

    by the by, police did not react this way to protests against Minnesota’s ‘stay at home’ order https://t.co/BTkJUeoax1
    — David Rudin (@DavidSRudin) May 27, 2020

    The anti-lockdown protesters were largely left alone by the cops, liberals complained, implying police refusal to meet the flag-waving “extremists” with a hail of rubber (or real!) bullets was due to racism rather than the firepower the anti-lockdown protesters were packing.

    A few weeks ago when morons with AR-15s stormed the MI capitol, I watched one of them accidentally hit a cop in the face with the barrel of his gun. He said “whoops” the cop smiled, he smiled, and their stupid lil protest continued. That is all.
    — Maurice Cancel Rent BP-Weeks (@mo87mo87) May 27, 2020

    That the divisive narrative was fundamentally flawed – the Minneapolis crowd protesting Floyd’s murder was as white as it was black – didn’t matter. Nor was it deemed necessary to point out that the unarmed Minneapolis protesters were not a threat to the riot-gear-clad cops, who’d have had to be suicidal to fire rubber bullets into a crowd of AR-15-packing wannabe-militiamen the previous month. It was too late – the spell of unity had been broken, and the conversation had degenerated into bickering over the morality of property damage and whether molotov cocktails were justified in the face of murder.

    News in Minnesota reports gunshots at the protest, and somebody shot. Police confirm. No life threatening injuries.Video shows a squad car surrounded & people throwing rocks. FOX reported a molotov cocktail.Given #GeorgeFloyd’s death, this response strikes me as understated. pic.twitter.com/nDokZNJyEh
    — David, Fiery Resister (@flowingfire) May 27, 2020

    American police’s legendary itchy trigger fingers may seem incompatible with the American people’s love of firearms. However, the cops’ choice of prey is instructive: police-involved shootings are much more common in cities with strict gun-control laws: New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. The majority of US police departments – including members of the Minneapolis force – train in Israel, learning to shoot first and ask questions later while testing out their new skills on real live occupied Palestinians. This training follows them home, where too often poor black populations become the favored target. But the core psychology is that of a bully, unwilling to pick on someone their own size, armed with their own weapons.

    [email protected]’s protests cost him his NFL career. White America’s refusal to address the reasons behind them cost George Floyd his life.https://t.co/2WhcGyrgAL
    — Nancy Armour (@nrarmour) May 27, 2020

    The MSM narrative-managers poured it on thick in their effort to muddy the waters, dragging in months’ worth of racial controversies. Anything was fair game, as long as it could be used to guide conservatives and liberals, blacks and whites back to their proper positions at each other’s throats.

    From the “Central Park Karen” who called the cops on a black man for asking her to put her dog on a leash, to Ahmaud Arbery, the young black man shot by a father-and-son team while jogging in Georgia, supposedly because they suspected him of a burglary, nothing was too off-topic.
    Also on rt.com What else? Woke mob wants more blood after ‘Ultimate Karen’ fired for calling police on black man

    The last thing the media establishment needs is for Americans to realize their country doesn’t have a race problem, so much as a class problem – and the media is on one side of the divide, encouraging those on the other side to fight among themselves for its amusement.

  9. Youths? Joggers? Bird watchers?

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  10. At least they all appear to have masks on, which is the most important thing.

  11. Evidently, having been a very liberal governor isn’t protecting Mark Dayton’s stores

  12. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    What I want to know is who those 2 tall young looking white guys who grabbed something from the vending machine are. They don’t look like vagrants or punks or anything. One of them has long curly hair and a hipsterish beard, and the other guy is in a ball cap and jogging attire. Did they just get caught up in the moment or something?

    • Replies: @trelane
    @Anonymous

    Swedes

  13. I see Mayor Frey has gone with the “space to destroy” strategy. This should help Trump in Minnesota, the state was already up for grabs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bragadocious

    George Dixon apparently was resisting arrest or fighting the police. If blacks insist on physically resisting police officers who are trying to do their jobs, it raises the risk of the lawbreaker being seriously injured or dying.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @VinnyVette
    @Bragadocious

    Minnesota "up for grabs"? Minnesota hasn't voted Republican for president since 1976!

  14. • Replies: @suicidal_canadian
    @216

    Not hard to tell the tribal affiliation of Mr Cox by looking at his facial features.

  15. @Anonymous
    What I want to know is who those 2 tall young looking white guys who grabbed something from the vending machine are. They don't look like vagrants or punks or anything. One of them has long curly hair and a hipsterish beard, and the other guy is in a ball cap and jogging attire. Did they just get caught up in the moment or something?

    Replies: @trelane

    Swedes

  16. Sean says:

    The riot is because the mayor sacked the four cops then complains because one the knee on the keck one has not been arrested, but if they are not cops any more they have zero incentive to talk to internal investigators. As a suspect for an offence of extreme seriousness, his lawyer will tell them not to talk to investigators, and those who take the fifth are very difficult to prosecute (can’t catch them out in a lie). Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish going back for decades?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Sean

    "Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish?"

    Google "national" "American" "world" "council" "federation" "league" "society" "association" "Jewish" and "Jews" all in one entry, watch what comes up.

    You don't really think this mayor gives a rat's arse about the well-being of Minneapolis, do you? You don't think he gets his backing from Minnesotans, do you?

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Sean

  17. Trump’s reelection prospects look poor.

    However, I think that if there’s major racial unrest in the Summer and Fall, that’ll do a lot to stir up White racial anxiety. With Biden obligated to stand with Blacks, Trump will have an opportunity to stand with the cops, businessmen, and (most importantly) White civilians. In that type of volatile and racially charged atmosphere, Trump could pick up many votes, especially from many of the elderly Whites who’ve recently defected to Biden. Some scared Hispanics and Asians might go to Trump too.

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    So if I were Trump, I’d make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That’ll help to start cementing the narrative.

    If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    With that being said, I think there are three groups of people who could sabotage the above strategy.

    1. Trump’s Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    2. The various establishment Republicans who don’t want to alienate the (((Donor Class))).
    3. Trump’s celebrity friends (like Kanye and Kim).

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Trump’s reelection prospects look poor.
     
    How do you know this?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Almost Missouri

    , @Wilkey
    @JohnnyWalker123


    So if I were Trump, I’d make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That’ll help to start cementing the narrative. If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.
     
    The problem here is that one reason Trump won in 2016 is that blacks didn’t show up to vote. Some Trump has to emphasize Democratic fiddling of black criminals while at the same time not getting blacks riled up enough to vote against him. The best option may be to wait for Biden to start saying something stupid, like defending and embracing the rioters.

    If there’s anything to be certain of, it’s that the BLM movement will overplay it’s hand.
    , @Young quarter
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.

    With their love for blacks, Muslims and communists, I increasingly wonder if Jews consciously want to harm themselves. I used to think Jews were stupid and didn’t realize who their real enemies are. But I’m increasingly getting the impression that Jews actually do realize those groups hate Jews. And I think there’s only one thing that hates Jews even more than blacks, Muslims and communists do: Jews themselves.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Craig Nelsen

    , @IHTG
    @JohnnyWalker123


    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.
     
    The election strategies of yesteryear no longer make as much sense in this era of geographic urban/rural political polarization. Republicans could win New Jersey back then, now they can't. This is what those white liberals in the cities want. Maybe you should let them have it good and hard.
  18. Anon[120] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks are nothing but worthless scum. They keep proving it ever second of the day. Everything they do is just an excuse to steal and behave like animals. They don’t care about George Floyd. They don’t care about whether other blacks live or die. Ghetto blacks despise each other and kill each other for no reason at all. Floyd is just their excuse to loot, which is what they really wanted.

    It looks like the cops have deliberately chosen to ignore what’s happening on the street, basically gone on strike, and I predict more days of black riots and theft until the merchants jump all over the mayor for being such a pussy. The mayor’s Jewish, and he’s a typical hardcore leftist. He’ll side with the rioters until downtown Minneapolis is left a smoking ruin.

    Unfortunately for the Democrats, riots scare the normies into voting Republican. They’ll want law and order back. Democrats never learn this. They keep forgetting that the 60s riots got Nixon elected by a landslide.

    Democrats have never understood that if you wildly over-react in response to some outrage, you lose all the sympathy of the bystanders.

  19. Nothing says “Fight the Power” like getting some free appliances.

    • LOL: Sean
    • Replies: @anon
    @Che Blutarsky

    Nothing says “Fight the Power” like getting some free appliances.

    Same thing was true in L.A. in 1992. Lots of color TV's decided to "fight the MAN" by walking out of stores. Somehow the "revolt" always winds up as ...undocumented shopping.

    , @c matt
    @Che Blutarsky

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous

    , @Sean
    @Che Blutarsky

    "White goods". How singularly inappropriate.

  20. Is Trump paying these people; they’re do more for his reelection than anyone else.

    • Agree: 216
  21. @newrouter
    >The media could not be played<

    Replies: @newrouter

    Led Zeppelin – The Song Remains The Same

  22. @216
    The longer the rioting, the more votes the GOP picks up.

    We'd also rather not have Klobuchar on the ticket.

    Replies: @Lugash

    Trump’s Luck holds. The Soros funded 2015/16 riots and mass murders were a boon to his campaign. These will be as well(unfortunately)

    I think Minneapolis might see some arson tonight. Small business owners feeling the pinch might want to collect some insurance money.

    • Replies: @danand
    @Lugash


    "I think Minneapolis might see some arson tonight. Small business owners feeling the pinch might want to collect some insurance money."

     

    https://youtu.be/TQRywSyIOUU

    "Jacob Frey is Minneapolis's second Jewish mayor. He campaigned on a platform of increasing support for affordable housing and improving police-community relations.

    Frey rolled out reforms to the Minneapolis Police Department’s body camera policy in April 2018. The changes tied non-compliance to stricter disciplinary consequences for the first time. Following the changes, officer compliance with the body camera policy reached record highs."
     
    Wonder what's on those body cams?
  23. https://twitter.com/JuanSmokinZaZa/status/1265808132518920194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    https://twitter.com/JuanSmokinZaZa/status/1265808251582644225

    Life in the lowest difficulty setting.

    While we on the nationalist right play on the highest difficulty of American Politics.

  24. “Karen Scullin FOX9
    @kscullinfox9
    This is awful out here. No police. Looting continues”

    If there weren’t any police around, then how come Karen didn’t call them? That’s what Karens do best.

  25. They’re Social Justifying.

  26. Minnesota has a RACE problem. That race problem will only be solved once enough Blacks have poured into it. More forced desegregation, forced bussing, forced integration.

    It must work. That’s the prescription folks up there forced on the rest of the country.

    Good news, Nigeria is full of immigrants eager to come teach the racists a lesson.

    The great Abe Lincoln is smiling down from heaven.

  27. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump's reelection prospects look poor.

    However, I think that if there's major racial unrest in the Summer and Fall, that'll do a lot to stir up White racial anxiety. With Biden obligated to stand with Blacks, Trump will have an opportunity to stand with the cops, businessmen, and (most importantly) White civilians. In that type of volatile and racially charged atmosphere, Trump could pick up many votes, especially from many of the elderly Whites who've recently defected to Biden. Some scared Hispanics and Asians might go to Trump too.

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    So if I were Trump, I'd make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That'll help to start cementing the narrative.

    If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    With that being said, I think there are three groups of people who could sabotage the above strategy.

    1. Trump's Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    2. The various establishment Republicans who don't want to alienate the (((Donor Class))).
    3. Trump's celebrity friends (like Kanye and Kim).

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Wilkey, @Young quarter, @IHTG

    Trump’s reelection prospects look poor.

    How do you know this?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Coemgen

    The bad economy and changing racial demographics.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Coemgen

    • Three million Americans die every year, mostly Trump voters.

    • More than 3 million new voters are registered every year, mostly blue voters.

    • ×4

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker.

    • There are very few fence-sitters in these elections. There are even fewer 2016 Hillary voters who will suddenly "see the light" and switch to Trump in 2020.

    • There are a lot of disappointed 2016 Trump voters, because Trump has given them a lot to be disappointed about.

    • The Dem's media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ozymandias

  28. I’ve been trying to buy a new laptop. Been to two Targets and a Best Buy. No luck. Even the TV selection was threadbare. Bad time to be looting. Supply chains busted and stores aren’t stocked!

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Unit472

    Man, I'm so white that during the last riot, I went out and bought a TV.

    , @Known Fact
    @Unit472

    I just bought some jeans online from Target -- if I'd waited only a couple more days I could have gone over there in person and liberated them for free to display my outrage

    , @Miss Laura
    @Unit472

    Same deal with printers, and when I tried to buy a bicycle the Big Box store was sold out; they'd sold more bikes during COVID-19 than they usually do at Christmas. Whatever is made in China is not gonna be there. Worried about room air conditioners this summer.

  29. @Sean
    The riot is because the mayor sacked the four cops then complains because one the knee on the keck one has not been arrested, but if they are not cops any more they have zero incentive to talk to internal investigators. As a suspect for an offence of extreme seriousness, his lawyer will tell them not to talk to investigators, and those who take the fifth are very difficult to prosecute (can't catch them out in a lie). Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish going back for decades?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish?”

    Google “national” “American” “world” “council” “federation” “league” “society” “association” “Jewish” and “Jews” all in one entry, watch what comes up.

    You don’t really think this mayor gives a rat’s arse about the well-being of Minneapolis, do you? You don’t think he gets his backing from Minnesotans, do you?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And the Minnesota Twins were named for Cain and Abel

    , @Sean
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Napoleon was a Corsican. Hitler was an Austrian. There are many other examples.

  30. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious
    I see Mayor Frey has gone with the "space to destroy" strategy. This should help Trump in Minnesota, the state was already up for grabs.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @VinnyVette

    George Dixon apparently was resisting arrest or fighting the police. If blacks insist on physically resisting police officers who are trying to do their jobs, it raises the risk of the lawbreaker being seriously injured or dying.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    241, Biden will say.."If I had a son he would look like George ."

  31. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:

    Wondering whether George Floyd’s autopsy will reveal high levels of anything. That kind of fits a opiod overdose scenario. The pills got to him on the ground, and he dies of respitory failure (not breathing) in ambulance. He was alive when he was placed in that ambulance right?

    Pain pill, maybe mixed with benzo or alcohol?

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @anon

    I’ve yet to encounter a situation where BLM is justified and the Police are at fault. Eventually, they will find one bad police handling. But I’m not holding my breath on this one.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  32. BLM coming back with the same tactics but more so might be the only thing to save Trump.

    • Replies: @216
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This riot has a lot of white an-coms in it.

    Pre-2016 riots typically did not.

    I've even seen video of what looked like women wearing Muslim headscarf looting retail.

    That's really bad for the left.

  33. @Coemgen
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Trump’s reelection prospects look poor.
     
    How do you know this?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Almost Missouri

    The bad economy and changing racial demographics.

  34. None of the videos will play.

  35. Democrats will of course assert there is no difference between this and white people who happen to carry long guns peaceably assembling. (My standard rejoinder to the “if people of color carried guns in public they’d be shot by police” is “figure out how to have a barbecue or house party without anyone getting shot before you bitch.”)

    The encouragement by Democrats and their media of Blacks Behaving Badly is becoming a pernicious election year tradition.

    • Replies: @216
    @Thomas

    The implied premise from these Dems is that armed right wing assemblies should get the Waco treatment.

    Replies: @Thomas

  36. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    BLM coming back with the same tactics but more so might be the only thing to save Trump.

    Replies: @216

    This riot has a lot of white an-coms in it.

    Pre-2016 riots typically did not.

    I’ve even seen video of what looked like women wearing Muslim headscarf looting retail.

    That’s really bad for the left.

  37. @Thomas
    Democrats will of course assert there is no difference between this and white people who happen to carry long guns peaceably assembling. (My standard rejoinder to the "if people of color carried guns in public they'd be shot by police" is "figure out how to have a barbecue or house party without anyone getting shot before you bitch.")

    The encouragement by Democrats and their media of Blacks Behaving Badly is becoming a pernicious election year tradition.

    Replies: @216

    The implied premise from these Dems is that armed right wing assemblies should get the Waco treatment.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @216

    They forget the Oklahoma City reply at their peril.

    Replies: @216

  38. Any bets that the return of BLM with either help or hinder Trump’s election?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Kronos

    The only way it helps Trump is if there are a significant number of voters in key states that were going to sit the election out who are now inspired to vote for him. Since Trump has been mostly Twitter bluster and little action, I doubt it helps him much.

    Replies: @newrouter

  39. @Rich
    Can't blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America's future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being "persecuted". The cops in NYC stopped making arrests in the 70s and 80s because they knew the "civil-rights" people would be all over them if they got rough, and the city sunk into criminal anarchy.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @duncsbaby

    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let’s face it, you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck until he dies no matter what his color is.

    Blacks will always turn these cases into racial events and start rioting, which, unfortunately, obscures the real problem: too many cops are out-and-out violent goons. I would not put the term “civil rights” in derisive scare quotes. I fully expect that my First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendment rights will be honored. Yet the cops and the courts violate them routinely, and with impunity.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dr. X


    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let’s face it, you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck until he dies no matter what his color is.
     
    The suspect was resisting arrest.

    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.

    Replies: @botazefa

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Dr. X

    you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck...no matter what his color is

     

    Ok, so no wrastling hold style physical restraints got it. Back to the old-timey whack on the noggin' with a billy club to calm down uppity miscreants then.

    https://pictshare.net/ulqiwl.jpg
    https://pictshare.net/03dzoo.jpg

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

  40. @anon
    Wondering whether George Floyd's autopsy will reveal high levels of anything. That kind of fits a opiod overdose scenario. The pills got to him on the ground, and he dies of respitory failure (not breathing) in ambulance. He was alive when he was placed in that ambulance right?

    Pain pill, maybe mixed with benzo or alcohol?

    Replies: @Kronos

    I’ve yet to encounter a situation where BLM is justified and the Police are at fault. Eventually, they will find one bad police handling. But I’m not holding my breath on this one.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Kronos

    Lol, get woke! Evidence and objectivity are so 2016.

    Replies: @Kronos

  41. @Anonymous
    @Bragadocious

    George Dixon apparently was resisting arrest or fighting the police. If blacks insist on physically resisting police officers who are trying to do their jobs, it raises the risk of the lawbreaker being seriously injured or dying.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    241, Biden will say..”If I had a son he would look like George .”

  42. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Sean

    "Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish?"

    Google "national" "American" "world" "council" "federation" "league" "society" "association" "Jewish" and "Jews" all in one entry, watch what comes up.

    You don't really think this mayor gives a rat's arse about the well-being of Minneapolis, do you? You don't think he gets his backing from Minnesotans, do you?

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Sean

    And the Minnesota Twins were named for Cain and Abel

  43. @Bucky
    Shut up, Karen.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    She’s assuming it’s looting when it could just be contactless curbside pickup

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  44. @Kronos
    Any bets that the return of BLM with either help or hinder Trump’s election?

    Replies: @Barnard

    The only way it helps Trump is if there are a significant number of voters in key states that were going to sit the election out who are now inspired to vote for him. Since Trump has been mostly Twitter bluster and little action, I doubt it helps him much.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @Barnard

    >Since Trump has been mostly Twitter bluster and little action, I doubt it helps him much.<

    Trumpslide 2020 lol fools.

  45. @Barnard
    @Kronos

    The only way it helps Trump is if there are a significant number of voters in key states that were going to sit the election out who are now inspired to vote for him. Since Trump has been mostly Twitter bluster and little action, I doubt it helps him much.

    Replies: @newrouter

    >Since Trump has been mostly Twitter bluster and little action, I doubt it helps him much.<

    Trumpslide 2020 lol fools.

  46. Mayor of Minneapolis: Jacob Frey, DFL Party

    Governor of Minnesota: Tim Walz, Democrat

    Person responsible for MPD? Donald Trump, of course.

  47. Anonymous[992] • Disclaimer says:
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Twitter is not disappointing:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolislootcrew
     
    I don't know what to say to that.
  48. The Leroys and Queef’teeshas gwine out an’ gettin’ dey flat screen on in memoriam!!

    The pasty Hank Hill conservadweebs at Free Repubcuck have been outdoing themselves calling (literally) for the lynching of the cops before any real findings have come out. The day before they were gleefully piling on the white NYC dog walker whose life was ruined by some trickster groid in the park.

    What a whole lot of YTs don’t know is that 99.9% of all blacks hate all whites, and it didn’t just start when the cops had to subdue that black criminal in Minnesota. Like the looting, all they need is a reason.Any reason, or sometimes no reason. This is no chicken/egg riddle as to what caused what. I’m no cop bootlicker, but they are like they are because groids are the way they are. 95% of their critics wouldn’t last a week on the street as a cop.

    The white cucks call for death to the cops, but are too stupid to realize that they, or their family members will be a suitable substitute for the black mob to take their chimposity out on. To blacks, there’s no difference between those cops and any other white (See Denny, Reginald). I almost want some of these white traitors to get a first hand up close look-along with a ghetto rat style tune up, at the blekpypo they worship from a distance.

  49. @Unit472
    I’ve been trying to buy a new laptop. Been to two Targets and a Best Buy. No luck. Even the TV selection was threadbare. Bad time to be looting. Supply chains busted and stores aren’t stocked!

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Known Fact, @Miss Laura

    Man, I’m so white that during the last riot, I went out and bought a TV.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  50. White people crying over big box stores.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @ATBOTL

    Crying?…who's crying ….we love it ,it brings clarity

  51. @Unit472
    I’ve been trying to buy a new laptop. Been to two Targets and a Best Buy. No luck. Even the TV selection was threadbare. Bad time to be looting. Supply chains busted and stores aren’t stocked!

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Known Fact, @Miss Laura

    I just bought some jeans online from Target — if I’d waited only a couple more days I could have gone over there in person and liberated them for free to display my outrage

  52. @Kronos
    @anon

    I’ve yet to encounter a situation where BLM is justified and the Police are at fault. Eventually, they will find one bad police handling. But I’m not holding my breath on this one.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Lol, get woke! Evidence and objectivity are so 2016.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Almost Missouri

    They threw that out with Rodney King in 1992. We likely haven’t seen true evidence and objectivity since 1953.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  53. Trump is now doomed. Every White woman in America has lady tingles watching the riots. The Rodney King riots got Clinton elected.

    Biden will surge in this. It’s what 45 million unemployed?

    Black riots always help Dems. Ice Cube is calling for cop killings. A few more of those and Biden wins nearly every state.

    Dems want Black riots, Whites pulled out of their cars and killed, cops killed. It is guaranteed to win the White House. Eric Schmidt of Google and Maureen Powell Jobs have big data to prove it.

    Whites never fight back. It’s not possible.

    Start pencilling in VP Abrams.

  54. @216
    @Thomas

    The implied premise from these Dems is that armed right wing assemblies should get the Waco treatment.

    Replies: @Thomas

    They forget the Oklahoma City reply at their peril.

    • Replies: @216
    @Thomas

    That cost the GOP the '96 election.

  55. @Coemgen
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Trump’s reelection prospects look poor.
     
    How do you know this?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Almost Missouri

    • Three million Americans die every year, mostly Trump voters.

    • More than 3 million new voters are registered every year, mostly blue voters.

    • ×4

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker.

    • There are very few fence-sitters in these elections. There are even fewer 2016 Hillary voters who will suddenly “see the light” and switch to Trump in 2020.

    • There are a lot of disappointed 2016 Trump voters, because Trump has given them a lot to be disappointed about.

    • The Dem’s media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Disagree: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    Uh... you seem to have forgotten Trump's secret weapon: Joe Biden and his running mate

    Plus a TON of Bernie supporters hate Biden's guts. They’re already pre-sold.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    • The Dem’s media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

     

    This is the one I find most plausible and worrying. I recall watching the election results in 2016 and seeing one red district after another in places such as CA turn blue, as the vote harvesters dumped their dubious loads on the ballot counters.

    The Dems now have quite a lot of practice with this, and the mail in voting opens the door to fraud even wider.
    , @Ozymandias
    @Almost Missouri


    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker
     
    Maybe. But that was with everything against him, even multiple attempted coups. Many of those people have been removed from power or discredited. He won't have as many obstacles this time. And Biden is the weakest candidate I've ever seen. I see agent Orange's chances as pretty good.
  56. Elderly Resident tried to stop the rioters from looting Target in Minnesota pic.twitter.com/YSWjsW5VZI— ⏰0HOUR⏰ (@___0HOUR1) May 28, 2020

  57. @Che Blutarsky
    Nothing says "Fight the Power" like getting some free appliances.

    Replies: @anon, @c matt, @Sean

    Nothing says “Fight the Power” like getting some free appliances.

    Same thing was true in L.A. in 1992. Lots of color TV’s decided to “fight the MAN” by walking out of stores. Somehow the “revolt” always winds up as …undocumented shopping.

  58. @Bragadocious
    I see Mayor Frey has gone with the "space to destroy" strategy. This should help Trump in Minnesota, the state was already up for grabs.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @VinnyVette

    Minnesota “up for grabs”? Minnesota hasn’t voted Republican for president since 1976!

  59. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X
    @Rich

    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let's face it, you can't kneel on some guy's neck until he dies no matter what his color is.

    Blacks will always turn these cases into racial events and start rioting, which, unfortunately, obscures the real problem: too many cops are out-and-out violent goons. I would not put the term "civil rights" in derisive scare quotes. I fully expect that my First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendment rights will be honored. Yet the cops and the courts violate them routinely, and with impunity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let’s face it, you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck until he dies no matter what his color is.

    The suspect was resisting arrest.

    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Anonymous


    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.
     
    Dr X is right. The man was cuffed face down. The knee on his neck is indescribably cruel. It boggles my mind anyone is able to defend this behavior from police.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  60. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Coemgen

    • Three million Americans die every year, mostly Trump voters.

    • More than 3 million new voters are registered every year, mostly blue voters.

    • ×4

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker.

    • There are very few fence-sitters in these elections. There are even fewer 2016 Hillary voters who will suddenly "see the light" and switch to Trump in 2020.

    • There are a lot of disappointed 2016 Trump voters, because Trump has given them a lot to be disappointed about.

    • The Dem's media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ozymandias

    Uh… you seem to have forgotten Trump’s secret weapon: Joe Biden and his running mate

    Plus a TON of Bernie supporters hate Biden’s guts. They’re already pre-sold.

  61. @Almost Missouri
    @Coemgen

    • Three million Americans die every year, mostly Trump voters.

    • More than 3 million new voters are registered every year, mostly blue voters.

    • ×4

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker.

    • There are very few fence-sitters in these elections. There are even fewer 2016 Hillary voters who will suddenly "see the light" and switch to Trump in 2020.

    • There are a lot of disappointed 2016 Trump voters, because Trump has given them a lot to be disappointed about.

    • The Dem's media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ozymandias

    • The Dem’s media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    This is the one I find most plausible and worrying. I recall watching the election results in 2016 and seeing one red district after another in places such as CA turn blue, as the vote harvesters dumped their dubious loads on the ballot counters.

    The Dems now have quite a lot of practice with this, and the mail in voting opens the door to fraud even wider.

  62. @Almost Missouri
    @Coemgen

    • Three million Americans die every year, mostly Trump voters.

    • More than 3 million new voters are registered every year, mostly blue voters.

    • ×4

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker.

    • There are very few fence-sitters in these elections. There are even fewer 2016 Hillary voters who will suddenly "see the light" and switch to Trump in 2020.

    • There are a lot of disappointed 2016 Trump voters, because Trump has given them a lot to be disappointed about.

    • The Dem's media manipulators and vote fabricators were caught napping in 2016. They are not letting that happen again. Mail-in ballots are an unlimited resource.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ozymandias

    • Trump won 2016 by a whisker

    Maybe. But that was with everything against him, even multiple attempted coups. Many of those people have been removed from power or discredited. He won’t have as many obstacles this time. And Biden is the weakest candidate I’ve ever seen. I see agent Orange’s chances as pretty good.

  63. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    And these thieving primitives complain that better stores won’t set up shop in their neighborhoods.

    I hope that Target never reopens. Let ’em shop the .99 stores.

  64. Maybe these scenes were imaged through zoom lenses, so the crowds aren’t as dense as they seem?

  65. @Dr. X
    @Rich

    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let's face it, you can't kneel on some guy's neck until he dies no matter what his color is.

    Blacks will always turn these cases into racial events and start rioting, which, unfortunately, obscures the real problem: too many cops are out-and-out violent goons. I would not put the term "civil rights" in derisive scare quotes. I fully expect that my First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendment rights will be honored. Yet the cops and the courts violate them routinely, and with impunity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome

    you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck…no matter what his color is

    Ok, so no wrastling hold style physical restraints got it. Back to the old-timey whack on the noggin’ with a billy club to calm down uppity miscreants then.
    https://pictshare.net/03dzoo.jpg

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle.

  66. “Gentle Giant”

    Houston’s Third Ward remembers ‘gentle giant’ George Floyd

    Friends told KHOU 11 News George was a “gentle giant” and a “true gentleman.” They say he didn’t deserve to die the way he did.

  67. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump's reelection prospects look poor.

    However, I think that if there's major racial unrest in the Summer and Fall, that'll do a lot to stir up White racial anxiety. With Biden obligated to stand with Blacks, Trump will have an opportunity to stand with the cops, businessmen, and (most importantly) White civilians. In that type of volatile and racially charged atmosphere, Trump could pick up many votes, especially from many of the elderly Whites who've recently defected to Biden. Some scared Hispanics and Asians might go to Trump too.

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    So if I were Trump, I'd make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That'll help to start cementing the narrative.

    If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    With that being said, I think there are three groups of people who could sabotage the above strategy.

    1. Trump's Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    2. The various establishment Republicans who don't want to alienate the (((Donor Class))).
    3. Trump's celebrity friends (like Kanye and Kim).

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Wilkey, @Young quarter, @IHTG

    So if I were Trump, I’d make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That’ll help to start cementing the narrative. If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    The problem here is that one reason Trump won in 2016 is that blacks didn’t show up to vote. Some Trump has to emphasize Democratic fiddling of black criminals while at the same time not getting blacks riled up enough to vote against him. The best option may be to wait for Biden to start saying something stupid, like defending and embracing the rioters.

    If there’s anything to be certain of, it’s that the BLM movement will overplay it’s hand.

  68. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump's reelection prospects look poor.

    However, I think that if there's major racial unrest in the Summer and Fall, that'll do a lot to stir up White racial anxiety. With Biden obligated to stand with Blacks, Trump will have an opportunity to stand with the cops, businessmen, and (most importantly) White civilians. In that type of volatile and racially charged atmosphere, Trump could pick up many votes, especially from many of the elderly Whites who've recently defected to Biden. Some scared Hispanics and Asians might go to Trump too.

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    So if I were Trump, I'd make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That'll help to start cementing the narrative.

    If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    With that being said, I think there are three groups of people who could sabotage the above strategy.

    1. Trump's Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    2. The various establishment Republicans who don't want to alienate the (((Donor Class))).
    3. Trump's celebrity friends (like Kanye and Kim).

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Wilkey, @Young quarter, @IHTG

    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.

    With their love for blacks, Muslims and communists, I increasingly wonder if Jews consciously want to harm themselves. I used to think Jews were stupid and didn’t realize who their real enemies are. But I’m increasingly getting the impression that Jews actually do realize those groups hate Jews. And I think there’s only one thing that hates Jews even more than blacks, Muslims and communists do: Jews themselves.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Young quarter


    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.
     
    It’s pretty simple, really. Jews view Whites as the strongest competitor.

    Replies: @Bucky

    , @Craig Nelsen
    @Young quarter

    Nah, it's all about "let's you and him fight"

  69. Reginald Denny II

  70. Tim Waltz was threatening to roll in the National Guard on businesses opening up before his Royal highness granted them permission but…. No cops here? White Dems are on a Kamikazi mission from God!

  71. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Young quarter
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.

    With their love for blacks, Muslims and communists, I increasingly wonder if Jews consciously want to harm themselves. I used to think Jews were stupid and didn’t realize who their real enemies are. But I’m increasingly getting the impression that Jews actually do realize those groups hate Jews. And I think there’s only one thing that hates Jews even more than blacks, Muslims and communists do: Jews themselves.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Craig Nelsen

    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.

    It’s pretty simple, really. Jews view Whites as the strongest competitor.

    • Replies: @Bucky
    @Anonymous

    Jews support BLM because Jews have assimilated to Puritan norms. Unassimilated Jews are as clannish as any European group and regard blacks with appropriate disdain.

  72. Black Lives Matter is back! And just in time for Trump’s re-election campaign.

    Trump will squander it. He’s more interested in tweeting shit-posts to his enemies in the media.

  73. This is awful out here. No police. Looting continues

    Sounds like you all need some Rooftop Koreans.

    … so that nice white lady TV news anchor can denounce the “vigilanteism” and worry aloud just how concerned the deployed National Guard troops must be about these dangerous Koreans, never mind the blacks and the Hispanics.

  74. It is awful, Karen, but the police were all in the park trying to find another Karen who let her dog off a leash.

  75. @Rich
    Can't blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America's future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being "persecuted". The cops in NYC stopped making arrests in the 70s and 80s because they knew the "civil-rights" people would be all over them if they got rough, and the city sunk into criminal anarchy.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @duncsbaby

    Can’t blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America’s future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being “persecuted”.

    Unfortunately all I’ve seen on twitter is everyone (conservatives included) assuming that the cop murdered George Floyd, that his knee to the throat was a death blow. I don’t know what happened but I doubt this is what killed Floyd. The guy probably had underlying medical conditions, was probably drunk and/or high, had already fought with police (hence the use of force), it’s highly doubtful that any cop murdered this idiot.
    Of course I could be wrong but I doubt it. It doesn’t matter, everyone has already decided this guy was killed by cops even w/out an autopsy done on the guy yet. What a shit-show.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @duncsbaby

    I am sure it is not that unusual but it is not very cinematic. The public have seen the bad guy 'shot dead' hundreds of times in entertainment, but several minutes of a knee on the neck of a prone handcuffed man is new to them. It looks bad.

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts. Mass deaths in crowd crushes are usually by asphyxiation from rib constriction.

    Mohamed Noor got 12 years for accidentally shooting a white woman, I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @photondancer

  76. Multi-ethnic police squad consisting of an Asian, a guy that looks like The Rock, whatever he is, and a White guy involved in death of perp. White Racism to blame.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    To be fair, it was the white guy who had his knee on the neck of the black man who died.

    That said, I don't get the goal of the rioters. Pretty much everyone in government (except the DA, who has to be somewhat judicious) condemned the cops; and they've all been summarily fired.

    Some lefty on Twitter suggested replacing police with the Black Panthers. A clan-based approach to crime would certainly be cheaper than police, but I doubt African Americans would prefer it to the current dispensation. For one thing, it would eliminate a lot of black jobs in the criminal justice system (cops, corrections officers, probation officers, etc.). For another, the punishments for crimes would tend to be harsher and more permanent.

  77. @Anonymous
    @Young quarter


    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.
     
    It’s pretty simple, really. Jews view Whites as the strongest competitor.

    Replies: @Bucky

    Jews support BLM because Jews have assimilated to Puritan norms. Unassimilated Jews are as clannish as any European group and regard blacks with appropriate disdain.

    • Troll: Pheasant
  78. @216
    https://twitter.com/RealSteveCox/status/1265812430434656256

    Replies: @suicidal_canadian

    Not hard to tell the tribal affiliation of Mr Cox by looking at his facial features.

  79. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Dr. X

    you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck...no matter what his color is

     

    Ok, so no wrastling hold style physical restraints got it. Back to the old-timey whack on the noggin' with a billy club to calm down uppity miscreants then.

    https://pictshare.net/ulqiwl.jpg
    https://pictshare.net/03dzoo.jpg

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Thomas A. Swift’s Electric Rifle.

  80. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:

    The “powers that be” are trying to kick off a race war in the US, using the lockdown and the fact that many blacks and whites are out of work at the moment, in addition to many other distractions being closed, as a vehicle for it.

    However the reality is 95% of whites have no stomach for any sort of conflict with blacks, so I suspect it won’t be so much as a race war as a race massacre – black on white.

  81. @Hippopotamusdrome
    Multi-ethnic police squad consisting of an Asian, a guy that looks like The Rock, whatever he is, and a White guy involved in death of perp. White Racism to blame.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen

    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Steve Sailer


    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.
     
    And what is the punch line?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  82. @Unit472
    I’ve been trying to buy a new laptop. Been to two Targets and a Best Buy. No luck. Even the TV selection was threadbare. Bad time to be looting. Supply chains busted and stores aren’t stocked!

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Known Fact, @Miss Laura

    Same deal with printers, and when I tried to buy a bicycle the Big Box store was sold out; they’d sold more bikes during COVID-19 than they usually do at Christmas. Whatever is made in China is not gonna be there. Worried about room air conditioners this summer.

  83. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump's reelection prospects look poor.

    However, I think that if there's major racial unrest in the Summer and Fall, that'll do a lot to stir up White racial anxiety. With Biden obligated to stand with Blacks, Trump will have an opportunity to stand with the cops, businessmen, and (most importantly) White civilians. In that type of volatile and racially charged atmosphere, Trump could pick up many votes, especially from many of the elderly Whites who've recently defected to Biden. Some scared Hispanics and Asians might go to Trump too.

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    So if I were Trump, I'd make a lot of statements in support of the cops and local business owners, while being harsh towards Blacks. That'll help to start cementing the narrative.

    If these type of racial disturbances continue for the rest of the year, I could see Trump winning a second term.

    With that being said, I think there are three groups of people who could sabotage the above strategy.

    1. Trump's Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    2. The various establishment Republicans who don't want to alienate the (((Donor Class))).
    3. Trump's celebrity friends (like Kanye and Kim).

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Wilkey, @Young quarter, @IHTG

    When Republicans play to White fear of Blacks or other types of radicals, they do pretty well. 1968, 1972, 1988.

    The election strategies of yesteryear no longer make as much sense in this era of geographic urban/rural political polarization. Republicans could win New Jersey back then, now they can’t. This is what those white liberals in the cities want. Maybe you should let them have it good and hard.

  84. @Lugash
    @216

    Trump's Luck holds. The Soros funded 2015/16 riots and mass murders were a boon to his campaign. These will be as well(unfortunately)

    I think Minneapolis might see some arson tonight. Small business owners feeling the pinch might want to collect some insurance money.

    Replies: @danand

    “I think Minneapolis might see some arson tonight. Small business owners feeling the pinch might want to collect some insurance money.”

    “Jacob Frey is Minneapolis’s second Jewish mayor. He campaigned on a platform of increasing support for affordable housing and improving police-community relations.

    Frey rolled out reforms to the Minneapolis Police Department’s body camera policy in April 2018. The changes tied non-compliance to stricter disciplinary consequences for the first time. Following the changes, officer compliance with the body camera policy reached record highs.”

    Wonder what’s on those body cams?

  85. Anonymous[351] • Disclaimer says:

    So glad to hear a Target got hit by some undocumented shoppers. If there’s one company more in tune with “Woke” capitalism, it’s them. Practically anything with human faces on it from their TV ads to their flyers to the posters at their stores are awash in non-white faces, first and foremost blacks. Right now they’re running an ad featuring I believe 8 youths graduation from HS, black and brown faces are 6 of the 8 and most prominently featured, while the 2 whites and like 4th or 5th in the lineup.

    Keep in mind this little factoid: whites are circa 60% of the population and blacks 13%, that means for for every black in America, there’re still more than 3 whites. In other words, whites still outnumber blacks by MORE THAN THREE TO ONE. You’d never guess it based on some of the crap coming out of Madison Ave. these days.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous

    I agree. I really have no sympathy for Target. I believe that Target followed the path laid out by Walmart - using their market dominance to drive down the prices that suppliers could charge to the point where nearly everything ended up getting sourced from China. Target was aimed at a richer demo - middle class - rather than lower-middle to lower class like Walmart. A lot of the attraction of Target is it's a place where Karens, Beckys, and assorted other soccer-moms can shop without rubbing elbows with POCs and white-trash. I guess the Target management decided to appeal more to diversity as thier white customers started buying online - or vice-versa.

  86. @ATBOTL
    White people crying over big box stores.

    Replies: @tyrone

    Crying?…who’s crying ….we love it ,it brings clarity

  87. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Sean

    "Why are so many of the elected officials in Minnesota Jewish?"

    Google "national" "American" "world" "council" "federation" "league" "society" "association" "Jewish" and "Jews" all in one entry, watch what comes up.

    You don't really think this mayor gives a rat's arse about the well-being of Minneapolis, do you? You don't think he gets his backing from Minnesotans, do you?

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Sean

    Napoleon was a Corsican. Hitler was an Austrian. There are many other examples.

  88. @Young quarter
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why do Jews support Black Lives Matter? Do they not know how much blacks hate them? Especially the type of black people who would be at a BLM rally?

    Then again, Jews promote Muslim immigration even though Muslims hate Jews. And Jews promote communism even though communists hate Jews.

    With their love for blacks, Muslims and communists, I increasingly wonder if Jews consciously want to harm themselves. I used to think Jews were stupid and didn’t realize who their real enemies are. But I’m increasingly getting the impression that Jews actually do realize those groups hate Jews. And I think there’s only one thing that hates Jews even more than blacks, Muslims and communists do: Jews themselves.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Craig Nelsen

    Nah, it’s all about “let’s you and him fight”

    • Agree: Pheasant
  89. @Almost Missouri
    @Kronos

    Lol, get woke! Evidence and objectivity are so 2016.

    Replies: @Kronos

    They threw that out with Rodney King in 1992. We likely haven’t seen true evidence and objectivity since 1953.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Kronos

    1953? Okay, I'm stumped.

    Replies: @Kronos

  90. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Twitter is not disappointing:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolislootcrew

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Twitter is not disappointing:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolislootcrew

    I don’t know what to say to that.

  91. @Che Blutarsky
    Nothing says "Fight the Power" like getting some free appliances.

    Replies: @anon, @c matt, @Sean

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    • Replies: @anon
    @c matt

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    It would be racist not to.

    , @Anonymous
    @c matt

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    Don't most manufacturers nowadays require proof of purchase before they will honour warranties?

  92. @Kronos
    @Almost Missouri

    They threw that out with Rodney King in 1992. We likely haven’t seen true evidence and objectivity since 1953.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    1953? Okay, I’m stumped.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Almost Missouri

    Before Brown v. Board of Education. (1954)

    That low test scores were due to lower education spending (infrastructure, books, etc...)

    If you actually examine the evidence provided by “Board of Education” their arguments have stood up for 70 years now. That no amount of integration and equal funding would any sizable difference.

  93. These images are shocking! All those shoppers who are not wearing masks! I hope the police arrived in time to hand out citations to the maskless scofflaws!

  94. Charles Erwin Wilson [AKA "Charles Erwin Wilson Three"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.

    And what is the punch line?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    "Watcha mean CPD is racist?"

  95. Sean says:
    @duncsbaby
    @Rich

    Can’t blame the cops for not getting involved. If they have to detain someone they risk their jobs and freedom. This is America’s future unless people stop falling for the nonsense about blacks being “persecuted”.

    Unfortunately all I've seen on twitter is everyone (conservatives included) assuming that the cop murdered George Floyd, that his knee to the throat was a death blow. I don't know what happened but I doubt this is what killed Floyd. The guy probably had underlying medical conditions, was probably drunk and/or high, had already fought with police (hence the use of force), it's highly doubtful that any cop murdered this idiot.
    Of course I could be wrong but I doubt it. It doesn't matter, everyone has already decided this guy was killed by cops even w/out an autopsy done on the guy yet. What a shit-show.

    Replies: @Sean

    I am sure it is not that unusual but it is not very cinematic. The public have seen the bad guy ‘shot dead’ hundreds of times in entertainment, but several minutes of a knee on the neck of a prone handcuffed man is new to them. It looks bad.

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts. Mass deaths in crowd crushes are usually by asphyxiation from rib constriction.

    Mohamed Noor got 12 years for accidentally shooting a white woman, I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sean


    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts.
     
    How long from when breathing halts to death?

    If you watch the video, it was only a matter of seconds between the time he was talking and breathing to when he was loaded onto a stretcher.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Anonymous
    @Sean

    I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Does anyone know if video exists of the events that led up to the knee-in-the-neck moment?

    The footage of Rodney King being hit by the police is notorious. However, my understanding is that he was caught on video trying to attack the police, first, which is what led to his being on the ground surrounded by officers: they were trying to subdue him.

    (Of course, the media never played the full recording.)

    , @photondancer
    @Sean

    Noor did not 'accidentally' kill Damond. He made no pretence of that.

    Replies: @Sean

  96. @Anonymous
    @Dr. X


    Have to disagree on that. I am fully aware of the dangers of policing Negroes, but let’s face it, you can’t kneel on some guy’s neck until he dies no matter what his color is.
     
    The suspect was resisting arrest.

    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.

    Replies: @botazefa

    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.

    Dr X is right. The man was cuffed face down. The knee on his neck is indescribably cruel. It boggles my mind anyone is able to defend this behavior from police.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @botazefa


    Dr X is right. The man was cuffed face down. The knee on his neck is indescribably cruel. It boggles my mind anyone is able to defend this behavior from police.
     
    He was cuffed on his side, not face down. He rotated to a more face down position for a matter of seconds while the officer was distracted by the onlookers who has gotten too close. That movement caused the location of the knee to change.

    In either case though, no way in hell he intended to kill the suspect.
  97. @Anonymous
    So glad to hear a Target got hit by some undocumented shoppers. If there's one company more in tune with "Woke" capitalism, it's them. Practically anything with human faces on it from their TV ads to their flyers to the posters at their stores are awash in non-white faces, first and foremost blacks. Right now they're running an ad featuring I believe 8 youths graduation from HS, black and brown faces are 6 of the 8 and most prominently featured, while the 2 whites and like 4th or 5th in the lineup.

    Keep in mind this little factoid: whites are circa 60% of the population and blacks 13%, that means for for every black in America, there're still more than 3 whites. In other words, whites still outnumber blacks by MORE THAN THREE TO ONE. You'd never guess it based on some of the crap coming out of Madison Ave. these days.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I agree. I really have no sympathy for Target. I believe that Target followed the path laid out by Walmart – using their market dominance to drive down the prices that suppliers could charge to the point where nearly everything ended up getting sourced from China. Target was aimed at a richer demo – middle class – rather than lower-middle to lower class like Walmart. A lot of the attraction of Target is it’s a place where Karens, Beckys, and assorted other soccer-moms can shop without rubbing elbows with POCs and white-trash. I guess the Target management decided to appeal more to diversity as thier white customers started buying online – or vice-versa.

  98. @c matt
    @Che Blutarsky

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    It would be racist not to.

  99. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Steve Sailer


    Back in the 1990s, two Chicago Police Department squad cars pulled up on my street and 4 cops ran into the condo building across the street: one white, one black, one Latino, and one Asian cop.
     
    And what is the punch line?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    “Watcha mean CPD is racist?”

  100. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @duncsbaby

    I am sure it is not that unusual but it is not very cinematic. The public have seen the bad guy 'shot dead' hundreds of times in entertainment, but several minutes of a knee on the neck of a prone handcuffed man is new to them. It looks bad.

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts. Mass deaths in crowd crushes are usually by asphyxiation from rib constriction.

    Mohamed Noor got 12 years for accidentally shooting a white woman, I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @photondancer

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts.

    How long from when breathing halts to death?

    If you watch the video, it was only a matter of seconds between the time he was talking and breathing to when he was loaded onto a stretcher.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Anonymous

    There are a lot of cuts in the video because onlookers were swearing at the cop. Floyd did not go from talking to dead, He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd's neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  101. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @botazefa
    @Anonymous


    No way, no how did the officer intend to kill him.
     
    Dr X is right. The man was cuffed face down. The knee on his neck is indescribably cruel. It boggles my mind anyone is able to defend this behavior from police.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Dr X is right. The man was cuffed face down. The knee on his neck is indescribably cruel. It boggles my mind anyone is able to defend this behavior from police.

    He was cuffed on his side, not face down. He rotated to a more face down position for a matter of seconds while the officer was distracted by the onlookers who has gotten too close. That movement caused the location of the knee to change.

    In either case though, no way in hell he intended to kill the suspect.

  102. Folks in the Twin Cities need to talk to their cousins in Texas. They have a solution to looting.

    You loot, we shoot. It works pretty well.

  103. @Che Blutarsky
    Nothing says "Fight the Power" like getting some free appliances.

    Replies: @anon, @c matt, @Sean

    “White goods”. How singularly inappropriate.

  104. @Almost Missouri
    @Kronos

    1953? Okay, I'm stumped.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Before Brown v. Board of Education. (1954)

    That low test scores were due to lower education spending (infrastructure, books, etc…)

    If you actually examine the evidence provided by “Board of Education” their arguments have stood up for 70 years now. That no amount of integration and equal funding would any sizable difference.

  105. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @c matt
    @Che Blutarsky

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous

    I wonder of the manufacturers will honor the warranties.

    Don’t most manufacturers nowadays require proof of purchase before they will honour warranties?

  106. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @duncsbaby

    I am sure it is not that unusual but it is not very cinematic. The public have seen the bad guy 'shot dead' hundreds of times in entertainment, but several minutes of a knee on the neck of a prone handcuffed man is new to them. It looks bad.

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts. Mass deaths in crowd crushes are usually by asphyxiation from rib constriction.

    Mohamed Noor got 12 years for accidentally shooting a white woman, I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @photondancer

    I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Does anyone know if video exists of the events that led up to the knee-in-the-neck moment?

    The footage of Rodney King being hit by the police is notorious. However, my understanding is that he was caught on video trying to attack the police, first, which is what led to his being on the ground surrounded by officers: they were trying to subdue him.

    (Of course, the media never played the full recording.)

  107. @Thomas
    @216

    They forget the Oklahoma City reply at their peril.

    Replies: @216

    That cost the GOP the ’96 election.

  108. There was a guy with a gun on a bridge in Missouri shooting at people last night, and wounded a soldier. A soldier on the bridge rammed the shooter and pinned him underneath his vehicle.

    The shooter is described as a 34 yo male, unnamed, so we know he’s not white.

    https://www.leavenworthtimes.com/news/20200527/chief-soldier-intervenes-to-end-shooting

    • Replies: @res
    @Jim Don Bob

    No details about the shooter, but at least we know his car is black.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366911/Hero-soldier-34-saved-countless-lives-running-mass-shooter.html

    P.S. Lots of comments about the lack of ID for the shooter.

    , @res
    @Jim Don Bob

    Turns out the shooter actually is white.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8370777/Missouri-man-charged-9-felonies-bridge-shooting.html

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  109. @Anonymous
    @Sean


    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts.
     
    How long from when breathing halts to death?

    If you watch the video, it was only a matter of seconds between the time he was talking and breathing to when he was loaded onto a stretcher.

    Replies: @Sean

    There are a lot of cuts in the video because onlookers were swearing at the cop. Floyd did not go from talking to dead, He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd’s neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sean


    He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying
     
    And that all occurred in the span of about 10 seconds. I saw that part of the video. It did not looked spliced. He was talking fine, saying that he couldn’t breathe (you are able to breathe if you are speaking over a period of time), which unfortunately is a common tactic that arrestees employ with police. Then he was moaning for a few seconds. And then the stretcher was there.

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd’s neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.
     
    Seems people need to wait for more facts to come in before drawing conclusions. I agree with you that Chauvin probably thought he was alright. It’s really the only plausible explanation, unless Chauvin is totally cookoo. If Floyd was handcuffed, wouldn’t Chauvin’s knee have been on Floyd’s arm?

    Could you please link to the full video?

    Replies: @Sean

  110. @Hippopotamusdrome
    Multi-ethnic police squad consisting of an Asian, a guy that looks like The Rock, whatever he is, and a White guy involved in death of perp. White Racism to blame.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen

    To be fair, it was the white guy who had his knee on the neck of the black man who died.

    That said, I don’t get the goal of the rioters. Pretty much everyone in government (except the DA, who has to be somewhat judicious) condemned the cops; and they’ve all been summarily fired.

    Some lefty on Twitter suggested replacing police with the Black Panthers. A clan-based approach to crime would certainly be cheaper than police, but I doubt African Americans would prefer it to the current dispensation. For one thing, it would eliminate a lot of black jobs in the criminal justice system (cops, corrections officers, probation officers, etc.). For another, the punishments for crimes would tend to be harsher and more permanent.

  111. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @Anonymous

    There are a lot of cuts in the video because onlookers were swearing at the cop. Floyd did not go from talking to dead, He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd's neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying

    And that all occurred in the span of about 10 seconds. I saw that part of the video. It did not looked spliced. He was talking fine, saying that he couldn’t breathe (you are able to breathe if you are speaking over a period of time), which unfortunately is a common tactic that arrestees employ with police. Then he was moaning for a few seconds. And then the stretcher was there.

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd’s neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.

    Seems people need to wait for more facts to come in before drawing conclusions. I agree with you that Chauvin probably thought he was alright. It’s really the only plausible explanation, unless Chauvin is totally cookoo. If Floyd was handcuffed, wouldn’t Chauvin’s knee have been on Floyd’s arm?

    Could you please link to the full video?

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Anonymous

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/new-video-shows-another-angle-of-george-floyd-being-restrained-by-police-84061253930 From the other side. You can see Chauvin had both knees on Floyd with Chauvin's right knee on Floyd's back. In the front view video at on point Floyd lifted his neck and head slightly when speaking. https://youtu.be/lirHz93qJ50?t=71

    Chauvin's knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd's neck, but Chauvin's weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  112. @Jim Don Bob
    There was a guy with a gun on a bridge in Missouri shooting at people last night, and wounded a soldier. A soldier on the bridge rammed the shooter and pinned him underneath his vehicle.

    The shooter is described as a 34 yo male, unnamed, so we know he's not white.

    https://www.leavenworthtimes.com/news/20200527/chief-soldier-intervenes-to-end-shooting

    Replies: @res, @res

    No details about the shooter, but at least we know his car is black.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366911/Hero-soldier-34-saved-countless-lives-running-mass-shooter.html

    P.S. Lots of comments about the lack of ID for the shooter.

  113. @Sean
    @duncsbaby

    I am sure it is not that unusual but it is not very cinematic. The public have seen the bad guy 'shot dead' hundreds of times in entertainment, but several minutes of a knee on the neck of a prone handcuffed man is new to them. It looks bad.

    It likely was not the neck pressure at all. A common way to die in the circumstances of being on the road with people using their weight to keep you immobile is the ribcage is prevented from expanding and thus breathing halts. Mass deaths in crowd crushes are usually by asphyxiation from rib constriction.

    Mohamed Noor got 12 years for accidentally shooting a white woman, I think they are going to have to give the knee-on-the-neck cop a year for every minute he was exerting pressure. I think the other cops on Floyd (who probably did kill him) will take a deal.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @photondancer

    Noor did not ‘accidentally’ kill Damond. He made no pretence of that.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @photondancer

    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.

    Replies: @res, @Anonymous

  114. Sean says:
    @Anonymous
    @Sean


    He was complaining of pain all over, and after he stopped talking he started groaning before dying
     
    And that all occurred in the span of about 10 seconds. I saw that part of the video. It did not looked spliced. He was talking fine, saying that he couldn’t breathe (you are able to breathe if you are speaking over a period of time), which unfortunately is a common tactic that arrestees employ with police. Then he was moaning for a few seconds. And then the stretcher was there.

    The lungs are a lot further up the ribcage than most people realize. Not certain about this but I think Chauvin had both knees on Floyd, who appears to have been a very big man. I do not think it was the one on his neck that killed him, it was the other one on his upper back, which had a lot more of Chauvins weight on it. I think Chauvin thought he was all right because his left knee was not really exerting pressure on Floyd’s neck, but that entailed Chauvin putting almost all his body weight on the other knee.
     
    Seems people need to wait for more facts to come in before drawing conclusions. I agree with you that Chauvin probably thought he was alright. It’s really the only plausible explanation, unless Chauvin is totally cookoo. If Floyd was handcuffed, wouldn’t Chauvin’s knee have been on Floyd’s arm?

    Could you please link to the full video?

    Replies: @Sean

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/new-video-shows-another-angle-of-george-floyd-being-restrained-by-police-84061253930 From the other side. You can see Chauvin had both knees on Floyd with Chauvin’s right knee on Floyd’s back. In the front view video at on point Floyd lifted his neck and head slightly when speaking.

    Chauvin’s knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd’s neck, but Chauvin’s weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sean

    Thank you.


    Chauvin’s knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd’s neck, but Chauvin’s weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.
     
    Since we last corresponded, I have viewed the 10-minute video taken from the sidewalk by the bystander. It appears that Chauvin had one of his knees on the neck or upper back/shoulder area for around 8 minutes. For about half that time Floyd was talking and complaining. Then he was breathing with difficulty for a very short time and then silent (passed or deceased?). What I referred to earlier may have been a splice. Nonetheless and needless to say, it is very unfortunate and looks bad.

    One thing that stands out from the video, however, is the calmness and unawareness that both officers (Chauvin and the SE Asian officer) seemed to exhibit with respect to Floyd and the situation. Consider that fact alongside your observation above that Chauvin seemed to be trying to keep his weight off of Floyd’s neck (which tends to be exonerating of Chauvin), and this really looks much more like a bad mistake, an accident, or an oversight, than an intention to cause serious bodily or even death.

    In addition, have you seen this?

    https://www.twitter.com/roddreher/status/1266257228610170887

    Replies: @anon

  115. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @Anonymous

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/new-video-shows-another-angle-of-george-floyd-being-restrained-by-police-84061253930 From the other side. You can see Chauvin had both knees on Floyd with Chauvin's right knee on Floyd's back. In the front view video at on point Floyd lifted his neck and head slightly when speaking. https://youtu.be/lirHz93qJ50?t=71

    Chauvin's knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd's neck, but Chauvin's weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thank you.

    Chauvin’s knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd’s neck, but Chauvin’s weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.

    Since we last corresponded, I have viewed the 10-minute video taken from the sidewalk by the bystander. It appears that Chauvin had one of his knees on the neck or upper back/shoulder area for around 8 minutes. For about half that time Floyd was talking and complaining. Then he was breathing with difficulty for a very short time and then silent (passed or deceased?). What I referred to earlier may have been a splice. Nonetheless and needless to say, it is very unfortunate and looks bad.

    One thing that stands out from the video, however, is the calmness and unawareness that both officers (Chauvin and the SE Asian officer) seemed to exhibit with respect to Floyd and the situation. Consider that fact alongside your observation above that Chauvin seemed to be trying to keep his weight off of Floyd’s neck (which tends to be exonerating of Chauvin), and this really looks much more like a bad mistake, an accident, or an oversight, than an intention to cause serious bodily or even death.

    In addition, have you seen this?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Multiple people have claimed this tactic is MPD policy and in the training manual.
    But nobody, not one person, has been able to produce a training vid or an image of the manual.

    All we get is "Fox news said it" or "a friend told me" or "a retired cop I know said it".

    More than once Fox News, my friends, and retired cops have all told me stuff that's totally wrong. Rod Dreher? Lol, that's not a source, that's a bedwetting neurotic.

    This is like a bunch of schoolgirls playing "telephone".

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call "bullshit".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

  116. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Sean

    Thank you.


    Chauvin’s knee was more hovering over the neck in order to prevent him getting up than pressing down on it. Chauvin was concentrating on keeping his weight off Floyd’s neck, but Chauvin’s weight had to go somewhere and so it was all on his other knee. That is how he killed Floyd.
     
    Since we last corresponded, I have viewed the 10-minute video taken from the sidewalk by the bystander. It appears that Chauvin had one of his knees on the neck or upper back/shoulder area for around 8 minutes. For about half that time Floyd was talking and complaining. Then he was breathing with difficulty for a very short time and then silent (passed or deceased?). What I referred to earlier may have been a splice. Nonetheless and needless to say, it is very unfortunate and looks bad.

    One thing that stands out from the video, however, is the calmness and unawareness that both officers (Chauvin and the SE Asian officer) seemed to exhibit with respect to Floyd and the situation. Consider that fact alongside your observation above that Chauvin seemed to be trying to keep his weight off of Floyd’s neck (which tends to be exonerating of Chauvin), and this really looks much more like a bad mistake, an accident, or an oversight, than an intention to cause serious bodily or even death.

    In addition, have you seen this?

    https://www.twitter.com/roddreher/status/1266257228610170887

    Replies: @anon

    Multiple people have claimed this tactic is MPD policy and in the training manual.
    But nobody, not one person, has been able to produce a training vid or an image of the manual.

    All we get is “Fox news said it” or “a friend told me” or “a retired cop I know said it”.

    More than once Fox News, my friends, and retired cops have all told me stuff that’s totally wrong. Rod Dreher? Lol, that’s not a source, that’s a bedwetting neurotic.

    This is like a bunch of schoolgirls playing “telephone”.

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon


    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.
     
    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    Replies: @anon

    , @res
    @anon


    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.
     
    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

    DEFINITIONS I.

    Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

    Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

    PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

    The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
    The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    For life saving purposes, or;
    On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
    Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
    After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.
     
    It wasn't that hard to find. Look it up yourself next time rather than spending your time calling bullshit.

    Replies: @Sean, @No Recent Commenting History

  117. Anonymous[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Anonymous

    Multiple people have claimed this tactic is MPD policy and in the training manual.
    But nobody, not one person, has been able to produce a training vid or an image of the manual.

    All we get is "Fox news said it" or "a friend told me" or "a retired cop I know said it".

    More than once Fox News, my friends, and retired cops have all told me stuff that's totally wrong. Rod Dreher? Lol, that's not a source, that's a bedwetting neurotic.

    This is like a bunch of schoolgirls playing "telephone".

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call "bullshit".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.

    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    Obviously not, if you followed even one comment up the thread.
    Do you have access to the MPD use of force manual or a training vid?
    If so, then post an image or links.

    If you do not have those things, then you are not contributing anything useful.

    Replies: @res

  118. Chavin knew Floyd–at least by sight–they worked at the same nightclub for a year although Floyd was outside while Chauvin inside. The bit where Floyd easily lifts his head is here, but there does seen to be some discernible pressure down the knee onto Floyd’s neck shortly afterwards when Chavin says ‘Shut up! not long before Floyd expired.

    If you do something that you know could seriously injure someone and they die of it then you can be convicted of murder. They can certainly convict Chauvin of third degree homicide/ manslaughter, which is what he has now been charged with. Again, I think Chavin will do about five years in prison. Doctors still bury their mistakes (and most of their deliberate murders), however cops increasingly can count on getting filmed.

    The SE Asian officer was assuming that the veteran (Chauvin) knew what he was doing. But though a man-mountain, Floyd had heart trouble and high blood pressure (extreme hypertension is 5 times more common among blacks than whites). Someone of officer Chavin’s experience ought to have taken into consideration that despite having used the same techniques to restrain suspects many times previously without incident, Floyd was pushing 50 and clearly in poor shape. I think Chauvin was distracted from those considerations by the comments and cursing from onlookers. At an early stage he puts his hand in his pocket and minutes later pulls it out holding mace. He was known for macing at the nightclub. If Chauvin had it to do again he would give Floyd the kiss of life.

  119. @Anonymous
    @anon


    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.
     
    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    Replies: @anon

    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    Obviously not, if you followed even one comment up the thread.
    Do you have access to the MPD use of force manual or a training vid?
    If so, then post an image or links.

    If you do not have those things, then you are not contributing anything useful.

    • Replies: @res
    @anon


    If you do not have those things, then you are not contributing anything useful.
     
    Indeed. Physician, heal thyself.
  120. res says:
    @anon
    @Anonymous

    Multiple people have claimed this tactic is MPD policy and in the training manual.
    But nobody, not one person, has been able to produce a training vid or an image of the manual.

    All we get is "Fox news said it" or "a friend told me" or "a retired cop I know said it".

    More than once Fox News, my friends, and retired cops have all told me stuff that's totally wrong. Rod Dreher? Lol, that's not a source, that's a bedwetting neurotic.

    This is like a bunch of schoolgirls playing "telephone".

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call "bullshit".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.

    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

    DEFINITIONS I.

    Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

    Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

    PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

    The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
    The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    For life saving purposes, or;
    On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
    Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
    After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.

    It wasn’t that hard to find. Look it up yourself next time rather than spending your time calling bullshit.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @res

    I can guarantee that Chauvin's defence will not be that he used any kind of choke or strangle, those are very rarely used by police nowadays. They did not pepper spray or taser him either . Floyd avoided all that by letting himself be cuffed, but then he would not get in the police car so they put him on the ground and as they are trained to do immobilized him. Anyone refusing to cooperate with their arrest (for anything including jaywalking) is likely to find themselves held face down on the pavement by at least one cop's weight, and sometimes the arrestee dies of it. Film of such occurrences comes as a shock because the public's impression of police work comes from mass entertainment. The Jury will convict him for taking away their Hollywood fantasy.

    Replies: @res

    , @No Recent Commenting History
    @res

    Thank you for the reply. Although I was not asking for help from you, I was asking other persons to support a claim that they made. I'm sure you are aware that "prove your claim" is a common part of honest, good faith debate. After all, you routinely ask other people to support their claims; this can be seen in any interaction between you and utu, for example.

    Why does "put up evidence" offend you in this case, but it is fine for you?

    Replies: @res

  121. @anon
    @Anonymous

    Is it your contention that police are not allowed ever to use chokeholds?

    Obviously not, if you followed even one comment up the thread.
    Do you have access to the MPD use of force manual or a training vid?
    If so, then post an image or links.

    If you do not have those things, then you are not contributing anything useful.

    Replies: @res

    If you do not have those things, then you are not contributing anything useful.

    Indeed. Physician, heal thyself.

  122. Sean says:
    @res
    @anon


    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.
     
    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

    DEFINITIONS I.

    Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

    Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

    PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

    The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
    The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    For life saving purposes, or;
    On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
    Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
    After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.
     
    It wasn't that hard to find. Look it up yourself next time rather than spending your time calling bullshit.

    Replies: @Sean, @No Recent Commenting History

    I can guarantee that Chauvin’s defence will not be that he used any kind of choke or strangle, those are very rarely used by police nowadays. They did not pepper spray or taser him either . Floyd avoided all that by letting himself be cuffed, but then he would not get in the police car so they put him on the ground and as they are trained to do immobilized him. Anyone refusing to cooperate with their arrest (for anything including jaywalking) is likely to find themselves held face down on the pavement by at least one cop’s weight, and sometimes the arrestee dies of it. Film of such occurrences comes as a shock because the public’s impression of police work comes from mass entertainment. The Jury will convict him for taking away their Hollywood fantasy.

    • Replies: @res
    @Sean

    Please read my comment again noting the differences between these:
    - Choke Hold
    - Neck Restraint
    - - Unconscious Neck Restraint
    - - Conscious Neck Restraint

    It seems clear (for right or wrong) that Chauvin was using a Conscious Neck Restraint not a choke or a strangle.

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone? Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them? Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    Replies: @anon

  123. @photondancer
    @Sean

    Noor did not 'accidentally' kill Damond. He made no pretence of that.

    Replies: @Sean

    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.

    • Replies: @res
    @Sean

    Seems risky of the prosecutor to go for that charge rather than manslaughter. But perhaps the desired result is acquittal followed by more riots.

    , @Anonymous
    @Sean


    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.
     
    Noor was trying to kill someone. Chauvin did not intend to seriously injure Floyd, who was by any objective measure a criminal suspect resisting arrest.
  124. res says:
    @Sean
    @res

    I can guarantee that Chauvin's defence will not be that he used any kind of choke or strangle, those are very rarely used by police nowadays. They did not pepper spray or taser him either . Floyd avoided all that by letting himself be cuffed, but then he would not get in the police car so they put him on the ground and as they are trained to do immobilized him. Anyone refusing to cooperate with their arrest (for anything including jaywalking) is likely to find themselves held face down on the pavement by at least one cop's weight, and sometimes the arrestee dies of it. Film of such occurrences comes as a shock because the public's impression of police work comes from mass entertainment. The Jury will convict him for taking away their Hollywood fantasy.

    Replies: @res

    Please read my comment again noting the differences between these:
    – Choke Hold
    – Neck Restraint
    – – Unconscious Neck Restraint
    – – Conscious Neck Restraint

    It seems clear (for right or wrong) that Chauvin was using a Conscious Neck Restraint not a choke or a strangle.

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone? Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them? Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone?

    Busy.

    Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them?

    You got a "thank you" for doing something that you were not asked to do. I do my own research. Sometimes I ask other people to do theirs, yet oddly enough that doesn't mean you .

    Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    Or perhaps "prove your claim" is a legit form of debate, and not just for your interactions with utu.

    This obviously offends and triggers you emotionally. Why is that?

    Replies: @res

  125. @Sean
    @photondancer

    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.

    Replies: @res, @Anonymous

    Seems risky of the prosecutor to go for that charge rather than manslaughter. But perhaps the desired result is acquittal followed by more riots.

  126. @res
    @anon


    Show us the manual, or a training vid from MPD. Otherwise I call “bullshit”.
     
    http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

    5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

    DEFINITIONS I.

    Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

    Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

    PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

    The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
    The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    For life saving purposes, or;
    On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
    Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
    After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.
     
    It wasn't that hard to find. Look it up yourself next time rather than spending your time calling bullshit.

    Replies: @Sean, @No Recent Commenting History

    Thank you for the reply. Although I was not asking for help from you, I was asking other persons to support a claim that they made. I’m sure you are aware that “prove your claim” is a common part of honest, good faith debate. After all, you routinely ask other people to support their claims; this can be seen in any interaction between you and utu, for example.

    Why does “put up evidence” offend you in this case, but it is fine for you?

    • Replies: @res
    @No Recent Commenting History


    I’m sure you are aware that “prove your claim” is a common part of honest, good faith debate.
     
    It is. It is also a common FUD sowing tactic used by trolls. Thus it becomes necessary to try to distinguish the two cases. Which brings us to.

    Why does “put up evidence” offend you in this case, but it is fine for you?
     
    What offended me was.
    1. The rhetoric: "calling bullshit", "neurotic", "schoolgirls playing telephone"
    2. The lack of effort to find evidence yourself before 1.
    3. The apparent lack of interest in the evidence once presented. That made clear this was not about seeking truth.

    Show me an example where I have done that. False equivalencies are pathetic.

    Since I am quite sure you are able to tell the difference, my conclusion is that you are just as insincere as I expected.
  127. anon[971] • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    @Sean

    Please read my comment again noting the differences between these:
    - Choke Hold
    - Neck Restraint
    - - Unconscious Neck Restraint
    - - Conscious Neck Restraint

    It seems clear (for right or wrong) that Chauvin was using a Conscious Neck Restraint not a choke or a strangle.

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone? Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them? Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    Replies: @anon

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone?

    Busy.

    Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them?

    You got a “thank you” for doing something that you were not asked to do. I do my own research. Sometimes I ask other people to do theirs, yet oddly enough that doesn’t mean you .

    Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    Or perhaps “prove your claim” is a legit form of debate, and not just for your interactions with utu.

    This obviously offends and triggers you emotionally. Why is that?

    • LOL: res
    • Replies: @res
    @anon


    I do my own research.
     
    Well, if this case is any guide you aren't very good at it.

    Or perhaps “prove your claim” is a legit form of debate, and not just for your interactions with utu.
     
    Covered in my previous comment.

    This obviously offends and triggers you emotionally. Why is that?
     
    Covered in my previous comment.

    The "triggers you" rhetoric is a nice touch.
  128. @Jim Don Bob
    There was a guy with a gun on a bridge in Missouri shooting at people last night, and wounded a soldier. A soldier on the bridge rammed the shooter and pinned him underneath his vehicle.

    The shooter is described as a 34 yo male, unnamed, so we know he's not white.

    https://www.leavenworthtimes.com/news/20200527/chief-soldier-intervenes-to-end-shooting

    Replies: @res, @res

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @res

    Well knock me over with a feather!

  129. res says:
    @No Recent Commenting History
    @res

    Thank you for the reply. Although I was not asking for help from you, I was asking other persons to support a claim that they made. I'm sure you are aware that "prove your claim" is a common part of honest, good faith debate. After all, you routinely ask other people to support their claims; this can be seen in any interaction between you and utu, for example.

    Why does "put up evidence" offend you in this case, but it is fine for you?

    Replies: @res

    I’m sure you are aware that “prove your claim” is a common part of honest, good faith debate.

    It is. It is also a common FUD sowing tactic used by trolls. Thus it becomes necessary to try to distinguish the two cases. Which brings us to.

    Why does “put up evidence” offend you in this case, but it is fine for you?

    What offended me was.
    1. The rhetoric: “calling bullshit”, “neurotic”, “schoolgirls playing telephone”
    2. The lack of effort to find evidence yourself before 1.
    3. The apparent lack of interest in the evidence once presented. That made clear this was not about seeking truth.

    Show me an example where I have done that. False equivalencies are pathetic.

    Since I am quite sure you are able to tell the difference, my conclusion is that you are just as insincere as I expected.

  130. res says:
    @anon
    @res

    P.S. And where have all the anons who kept asking for this information gone?

    Busy.

    Do I not even get a thank you for doing their research for them?

    You got a "thank you" for doing something that you were not asked to do. I do my own research. Sometimes I ask other people to do theirs, yet oddly enough that doesn't mean you .

    Or perhaps they really did not want the information after all and just preferred to sling FUD?

    Or perhaps "prove your claim" is a legit form of debate, and not just for your interactions with utu.

    This obviously offends and triggers you emotionally. Why is that?

    Replies: @res

    I do my own research.

    Well, if this case is any guide you aren’t very good at it.

    Or perhaps “prove your claim” is a legit form of debate, and not just for your interactions with utu.

    Covered in my previous comment.

    This obviously offends and triggers you emotionally. Why is that?

    Covered in my previous comment.

    The “triggers you” rhetoric is a nice touch.

  131. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @photondancer

    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.

    Replies: @res, @Anonymous

    Noor was convicted of the same offence that Chauvin has been charged with: murder in the third degree.

    Noor was trying to kill someone. Chauvin did not intend to seriously injure Floyd, who was by any objective measure a criminal suspect resisting arrest.

  132. @res
    @Jim Don Bob

    Turns out the shooter actually is white.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8370777/Missouri-man-charged-9-felonies-bridge-shooting.html

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Well knock me over with a feather!

    • Agree: res

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