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From The Good Hair Study:
Do we have an implicit preference for “good hair”?
In 2016, Perception Institute conducted the “Good Hair” Study, the first study to examine implicit and explicit attitudes related to black women’s hair. In conjunction with a creative team at SheaMoisture, manufactured by Sundial Brands, Perception Institute created the first “Hair IAT” to assess implicit bias related to natural hair. The study included 4,163 participants: a national sample of 3,475 men and women, and a sample of 688 “naturalista” women from an online natural hair community.
The study included the Good Hair Survey and the Hair IAT. The survey assessed women’s explicit attitudes toward black women’s hair, hair anxiety, and experiences related to their own hair, and the Hair IAT assessed implicit attitudes toward black women’s hair.
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OT: How other countries, and their business lobbies, do trade wars. Emphasis mine.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/boycott-of-everything-japanese-mushrooms-across-south-korea-11563461208
The Korean negotiator was on the news today and his face was bulging and red and he looked like he was about to explode from anger. The Japanese negotiators just looked puzzled and remained quiet, like they were thinking, what is this guy's problem?Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
Can we just skip the formalities and simply administer electric shocks to white people, all day every day?
Oddly enough the publicity shot of Ms Johnson, co-founder of the Perception Institute, appears to show unnatural hair…
https://www.ineteconomics.org/research/experts/ajohnson
Or maybe it’s just my biased eyes.
Back in the 70s the Afro was fashionable among white girls of the fingerless glove and rainbow leggings crowd.Replies: @Autochthon
How can anyone define “good hair” when there seems to be a universal bias for Becky hair?
I’m offended the test doesn’t cover the carpet as well as the drapes. People will freak out over a single rogue pubic hair rather than a full head of hair.
https://www.ineteconomics.org/research/experts/ajohnson
Or maybe it’s just my biased eyes.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
I see she’s a “thought leader and a bridge builder”. Lol. How many bridges has she built? Nice hair though.
Back in the 70s the Afro was fashionable among white girls of the fingerless glove and rainbow leggings crowd.
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Is “Aptitude” in headline a typo?
When I was a kid (a white blonde kid) I loved black women’s hair…LOVED IT…even had the Shani dolls from the 80s
I thought it was gorgeous
People always want what they don’t have…it’s always greener on the other side of the hill….
The only difference between white women and black women is that white women eventually Grow. The. F. Up. and Move. On.
There’s simply no more important issue facing America today than the bigoted War on Bad Hair. Some people are single issue voters. Presidential candidates beware!
Perception Institute seems to be a diversity and inclusion grifter outfit, whose research is closer to market research than science (apologies to Steve’s former career).
What this discussion misses is that there are three types of hair, not two:
1. Good hair
2. Bad hair
3. Bad hair that has been dicked with in some way to produce an inferior, sticky, stiff, smelly, artificial simulacrum of good hair.
Number 1 is best, but number 2 is way better than number 3. Extension and wigs fall under number 3, as well as all that chemical conking crap.
my white, ethnically 100% Italian, wife has wild, unruly hair, not so much curly as wavy/kinky. Straight-haired women compliment her on it, admire and claim to envy her. She of course, would rather have had straight hair (easier to deal with) but as she matured grew to appreciate her own mane. My personal observation: females with curly and/or kinky hair envy the straight-haired, females with straight hair envy the kinkycurlies. The Grass is Always Greener. The ongoing world war H is neuroticism writ large and weaponized. But if the truth is to be told, the real war on hair is against red-heads, the bastard step-children of Bad Hair, rejected by their own parents (“no one in my family is a red-head, must be your side of the family” and “who the hell’s kid IS this, anyway?”)
I’ve always been a fan of red hair but really the comparitive advantage of hair color is so marginal that it’s basically a non issue. Jessica chastain is a beautiful red head. Claudia Schiffer was a beautiful blonde. Jennifer Connolly was a beautiful brunette and Monica bellucis hair is just about black. It really doesn’t matter.
Black womens hair type is not as attractive as others but thats less of a problem compared to their typical facial features.Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter, @Clyde
https://www.wsj.com/articles/boycott-of-everything-japanese-mushrooms-across-south-korea-11563461208Replies: @Anon
The Koreans are to the Japanese the equivalent of blacks to whites in the U.S. They have super sensitive mega chips on their shoulders, and the slightest thing sets them off.
The Korean negotiator was on the news today and his face was bulging and red and he looked like he was about to explode from anger. The Japanese negotiators just looked puzzled and remained quiet, like they were thinking, what is this guy’s problem?
It’s not about race tho – less coiled hair appears longer, which is a sign of femininity
So it’s hurrsexism
This is just a case where there is an issue that black women care about very much (which I get, intrasexual competition) and no one else does, but we will be made to care…and everyone else gets blamed under the argument that the dominant culture makes them hate their hair, as though if black women had hair like Asians they wouldn’t have some other physical feature to fight over.
I wonder if we’ll ever get around to people’s implicit bias towards food that tastes good.
Not totally off-topic: the world surrenders to Michelle Obama’s awesomeness.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-michelle-obama-most-admired-woman-in-the-world-and-us-20190718-jeauicrpejeszoy4fvxonr3va4-story.html
Within the range of Caucasian to asian hair types, there is no clear winner in hair type. Asian hair is straight and tends to be easier to maintain and resistant to frizzing. Some white women have wavy hair, which looks more voluminous and bouncy but it usually takes some effort to get it to look tip top. And then some non black women, usually with some level of middle eastern heritage, have very curly hair. If they take care of it, it looks fine too.
I’ve always been a fan of red hair but really the comparitive advantage of hair color is so marginal that it’s basically a non issue. Jessica chastain is a beautiful red head. Claudia Schiffer was a beautiful blonde. Jennifer Connolly was a beautiful brunette and Monica bellucis hair is just about black. It really doesn’t matter.
Black womens hair type is not as attractive as others but thats less of a problem compared to their typical facial features.
Was a red head til it turned white. Only experienced mild teasing, never any bias. I liked it, especially now when a woman doubts that I can prove I was a redhead.
Naturally the article had to be framed to blame Becky’s. They did mention that black women in general don’t prefer natural black hair but the way the research is framed, it looks like white Beckys are driving hair insecurity among black women.
I’d like to see the rest of the picture. What do Native American, Hispanic and asian people think about natural black hair? What do men of all races think about natural black hair on women? Maybe white women aren’t the only drivers of dispreference towards natural black hair.
Beckys?
Beckies?
(Surely not "Becky's" – that is possessive; the Philistines who keep writing that must knock it off!)
I argue for "Beckies" based upon similar plural forms where y follows a consonant ("ponies," "babies," etc.; cf. "honeys"). However, as "Becky" is a proper noun, one may argue the original spelling should be retained. I would write, for instance, "There are two Beckys in our class." In the usage at hand, though, the word is a generic slur, and therefore better treated as a common noun. Quaere: Should we not capitalise it?
The plural of "dwarf" used to most commonly* be "dwarfs," and of "elf," "elfs" until Tolkien's work dwarfed (why not dwarved...?) all previous influences and his spellings, using the v became, and remain now, predominant.
Who is to race-hustling and slurs against white women what Tolkien was to fantasy? Beyoncé Knowles? Michelle Obama? We must consult this person.
Niggling, absurd silliness, think you? Well, the entire affair is nothing if not niggling, absurd silliness, so, for Heaven's sake, let us not undertake our silliness by half measures!
*He did not invent the variations, he only favoured them, himself referring to this peccadillo as "a piece of private, bad grammar."
The domineering Dominicans have long dominated this field of study. They call it Pelo Bueno contra Pelo Malo. This “study” is superfluous and adds nothing to the body of knowledge.
And both of them envy women with wavy hair.
I identity as a redhead, but most people think that I’m a blonde.
I’ve always been a fan of red hair but really the comparitive advantage of hair color is so marginal that it’s basically a non issue. Jessica chastain is a beautiful red head. Claudia Schiffer was a beautiful blonde. Jennifer Connolly was a beautiful brunette and Monica bellucis hair is just about black. It really doesn’t matter.
Black womens hair type is not as attractive as others but thats less of a problem compared to their typical facial features.Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter, @Clyde
Nappy is nappy, no matter the color.
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Yes, before bubble gum there was snuff. Cuppy, by the way, is the only major league pitcher to have scored five runs in a game.A German born "Koppe", he must have been quite swarthy to keep the nickname "Nig" next to his Cleveland Spider teammate Louis Sockalexis, the Indians' Penobscot namesake.
The good hair study of 50 years ago offered more categories:
Was Nig Cuppy nappy? Sniff out his snuff card:
Yes, before bubble gum there was snuff. Cuppy, by the way, is the only major league pitcher to have scored five runs in a game.
A German born “Koppe”, he must have been quite swarthy to keep the nickname “Nig” next to his Cleveland Spider teammate Louis Sockalexis, the Indians’ Penobscot namesake.
And women think men are shallow. More than half of all the problems facing the developed world, stem from stupid people thinking that attractiveness is a decent proxy for trustworthiness, intelligence and competence.
Attractive people are nice to look at, but that’s about as far as it goes.
There’s apparently a thing called insta-something, where photogenic kiddies try to become ‘influencers’ (i.e., they try to get to the stage that someone is prepared to pay them to hawk products to other morons); I reckon if you looked at the data, the success rate among influencer-aspirants is about in line with the success rate for girls becoming fashion models, actresses and the like.
All the obsession with looks, does, is supply a stream of willing sexual partners to the people who ration positions (and even candidature for positions) in those fields.
As a good Bayesian, my prior is that the expected risk-adjusted excess return that accrues to good looks is about zero.
I’m not a mong by any means – just a normal-looking bloke – but the idea that “good hair” is a sensible thing for women to aspire to, means that their target set is wrong.
It of a piece (but to a lesser extent) with boob jobs, lip fillers, Botox, stripper heels, asshole bleaching, pubic hair waxing… if those things are important to the party of the second part, then the woman dooms herself to a life of precarity, because the party of the second part will always be on the lookout for someone 5% more attractive (i.e., the woman, 5 years ago).
Then again, I’m pretty weird – my view is that nobody should wear costumes… if judges (as an example) were genuinely worth listening to, then they would be worth listening to if they were wearing CostCo t-shirts and sweat-pants. Costume-related gravitas is everywhere, and I fucking hate it (so much so that when forced to wear a suit for briefings, I always wear my “DISOBEY” t-shirt underneath my suit-shirt). It is an interesting coincidence (?) that the French word for a business suit is… costume.
Western civilisation will most likely survive stupid female insecurities, just as it has (so far) survived the male analogues – heel lifts, toupées, Just for Wankers hair colouring shit, men who get what appear to be ant-legs stapled into their bald spots… if they’re wasting clock cycles on that shit, they’re a bit retarded.
I’ve always been a fan of red hair but really the comparitive advantage of hair color is so marginal that it’s basically a non issue. Jessica chastain is a beautiful red head. Claudia Schiffer was a beautiful blonde. Jennifer Connolly was a beautiful brunette and Monica bellucis hair is just about black. It really doesn’t matter.
Black womens hair type is not as attractive as others but thats less of a problem compared to their typical facial features.Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter, @Clyde
The clear winner for me is long straight hair on women. Caucasian and East Asian.
Non redheads are envious.
Although there are mad gingers.
On first glance I could have sworn that said; “Japan Lacks Repentance over the Pabst!”
I define “good hair” by looking in the mirror.
You’re strawberry blonde. That means you’re gay.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-michelle-obama-most-admired-woman-in-the-world-and-us-20190718-jeauicrpejeszoy4fvxonr3va4-story.htmlReplies: @SunBakedSuburb
Does this make Michelle Obama Tanit, consort of Baal?
The Korean negotiator was on the news today and his face was bulging and red and he looked like he was about to explode from anger. The Japanese negotiators just looked puzzled and remained quiet, like they were thinking, what is this guy's problem?Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
Koreans are particularly pie-faced.
Who would keep the electricity on?
Or POTUS.
Leftists have lone been obsessed with hair.
Steve has often mentioned how far more common and characteristics like height, weight, and, yes, baldness are mocked with impunity.
Back in the 70s the Afro was fashionable among white girls of the fingerless glove and rainbow leggings crowd.Replies: @Autochthon
“Thought leader” in these contexts is like “people’s” and “democratic” in the context of governments. Just as the latter terms can guarantee those regimes adopting them are anything but, so one can always be certain anyone claiming to be a “thought leader” does nothing but parrot and enforce the orthodox thoughts of the entrenched.
You raise an interesting question:
Beckys?
Beckies?
(Surely not “Becky’s” – that is possessive; the Philistines who keep writing that must knock it off!)
I argue for “Beckies” based upon similar plural forms where y follows a consonant (“ponies,” “babies,” etc.; cf. “honeys”). However, as “Becky” is a proper noun, one may argue the original spelling should be retained. I would write, for instance, “There are two Beckys in our class.” In the usage at hand, though, the word is a generic slur, and therefore better treated as a common noun. Quaere: Should we not capitalise it?
The plural of “dwarf” used to most commonly* be “dwarfs,” and of “elf,” “elfs” until Tolkien’s work dwarfed (why not dwarved…?) all previous influences and his spellings, using the v became, and remain now, predominant.
Who is to race-hustling and slurs against white women what Tolkien was to fantasy? Beyoncé Knowles? Michelle Obama? We must consult this person.
Niggling, absurd silliness, think you? Well, the entire affair is nothing if not niggling, absurd silliness, so, for Heaven’s sake, let us not undertake our silliness by half measures!
*He did not invent the variations, he only favoured them, himself referring to this peccadillo as “a piece of private, bad grammar.”