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Back in 1992, East Palo Alto was the Murder Capital of America, so a Stanford professor invented ShotSpotter to notify the cops when gunshots were heard.

So ShotSpotter provides another source of unpoliticized evidence that the return of Black Lives Matter led to blacks shooting each other in large numbers. Here’s a study of ShotSpotter and 911 calls in eight cities in 2020, with the baseline set to the week before the death of George Floyd. In the right hand graph, the dashed vertical line is the beginning of the pandemic and red vertical line is the the death of Floyd.

As you can see, shots heard by the machinery were pretty stable until the beginning of the Racial Reckoning, after which shots heard immediately more than doubled over the next four weeks, then stabilized at maybe more than 75% of the third week of May until receding to only about 50% more shooty as cold weather set in in later November 2020.

This graph is from:

Police violence reduces civilian cooperation and engagement with law enforcement∗

Desmond Ang,† Panka Bencsik,‡ Jesse Bruhn§ and Ellora Derenoncourt¶
September 20, 2021

Abstract
How do high-profile acts of police brutality affect public trust and cooperation with law enforcement? To investigate this question, we develop a new measure of civilian crime reporting that isolates changes in community engagement with police from underlying changes in crime: the ratio of police-related 911 calls to gunshots detected by ShotSpotter technology. Examining detailed data from eight major American cities, we show a sharp drop in both the call-to-shot ratio and 911 call volume immediately after the police murder of George Floyd in May 2020. Notably, reporting rates decreased significantly in both non-white and white neighborhoods across the country. These effects persist for several months, and we find little evidence that they were reversed by the conviction of Floyd’s murderer. Together, the results illustrate how acts of police violence may destroy a key input into effective law enforcement and public safety: civilian engagement and reporting.

It would seem most interesting to me that shots fired exploded as soon as Black Lives Matter was resuscitated at the end of May 2020, but the authors are more concerned with the decline in 911 calls. It looks like 911 calls for shots fired went up considerably in June 2020, although not as much as, you know, shots actually fired.

But then the public gave up around the Fourth of July. Was this because the Message of the Racial Reckoning — the cops are the Bad Guys while black men shooting guns are the Good Guys — finally got through to the masses?

Or is that when people realized this was just the Shootier New Normal?

Or did the enormous wave of firecrackers set off leading up to the Fourth of July have something to do with it? Last summer there were a series of bangs around the corner from me that sounded to me more like gunfire than firecrackers. So I grabbed my phone, dove on the floor, and called 911. I got into a discussion with the 911 operator over what chance it really was gunfire or just firecrackers. I explained I was down on the floor so evidently I was concerned. When asked for a percentage estimate of being gunshots, I said, “25%.” Evidently, that wasn’t high enough so I got shunted to a nonemergency line. But somebody else called in and gave a higher number because soon an LAPD helicopter was overhead.

I didn’t hear anything more about it, so I presume it was firecrackers.

 
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  1. It’s rayciss to notice these things.

  2. I’m trying to construct a future timeline for you that won’t involve more gunfire, Steve.

    Drawing a blank. Earplugs?

  3. OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but…..

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Daniel H

    The event was called the "Miami Bully Takeover" and was apparently for non-papered pit bulls. So it clearly drew a different demographic than the Westminster dog show.

    Replies: @Barnard

    , @Danindc
    @Daniel H

    They’re pit bull owners. They’re violent morons.

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @International Jew
    @Daniel H

    As befits a crowd in which the dogs are smarter than the owners, only humans are seen fighting.

    Replies: @El Dato, @kaganovitch

    , @epebble
    @Daniel H

    God shows are genteel, gentile, right? Right? Yeah, but…..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10136755/Moment-Catholic-priest-orders-maskless-man-Washington-mass-triggering-huge-altar-brawl.html

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @Daniel H

    Gathering a bunch of pitbull owners from all over the country in one place, what could go wrong?

    , @Trinity
    @Daniel H

    I hope none of the dogs were hurt.

  4. Back in 1992 black people were killing each other like it was 2020 or close to it.

  5. Waiting for the article that explains how fewer Whites calling 911 is racist.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Redneck farmer

    Red, a 17 year old black girl was shot and killed two weeks ago in Buffalo. She was shot while riding in a car or van. Thre driver drove more than a mile before he stopped and sought help. No one at or near the actual shooting site called 911 or the police. I wonder why?

  6. we show a sharp drop in both the call-to-shot ratio and 911 call volume immediately after the police murder of George Floyd in May 2020

    Wha are they blatantly lying and not reading their own graphs?

    The 911 call volume goes UP and stays UP. It’s right there.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @El Dato


    Wha are they blatantly lying and not reading their own graphs?
     
    No they are not reading their own graphs. They are reading The Narrative.

    In the Current Year, data is a deuce while The Narrative is King.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

  7. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

    The event was called the “Miami Bully Takeover” and was apparently for non-papered pit bulls. So it clearly drew a different demographic than the Westminster dog show.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Hypnotoad666


    Vivian Pedroso, a spokeswoman for the event, said the fight began around 7 p.m. when two women began feuding over something minor
     
    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs. I was surprised to see a Hilton Doubletree was hosting an event like this, although based on the Trip Advisor reviews it appears the property is in decline.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Redneck farmer

  8. Racial Reckoning? It looks to me more like reckoning with the end of the GWOT and the massive debt and other obligations left behind. Resources that were available to purchase urban peace are no longer available. Basically the same situation as the end of the war in Vietnam.

    • Replies: @peterike
    @George

    Resources that were available to purchase urban peace are no longer available.

    Like what? And I haven't noticed some massive collapse in government spending, have you?

  9. Copper Derek and his mates should have driven a lot slower, Floyd would have died of an OD or in a ghetto shoot out soon enough anyway.

  10. I don’t buy that BLM is a spontaneous political expression. It has an uncanny tendency to perform its act in the run up to presidential elections. Virtually every Democrat cheered on the looting, arson and violence. Police in Democratic cities ordered the police to step down. No prosecutions.

    If Trump returns to run in 2024, I think we’ll get another dose of BLM.

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Jim
    @Shouting Thomas

    It’s very similar to the Nazi’s use of the Storm Troopers to gain power. Once they had gotten firmly in power Hitler brutally crushed the Storm Troopers in the Roehm blood purge. I suspect that once the Left has full control in this country they will do the same to Antifa and BLM.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Shouting Thomas


    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.
     
    BLM along with Antifa, which engaged in a lot of the worst violence. And everything proves Trump along with all whites are racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.
     
    Not clear since the Democrats had to switch to Plan B overt cheating late on election night when the Plan A numbers still weren't enough to drag "Biden" over the top.

    Although the rioting, Trump's limp response to it, and the threat that "We'll 'keep the nation in flames' unless you rid us of the turbulent BAD ORANGE MAN" likely had a role in the election being close enough that Plan B would work, or wouldn't have to used in even more states.

    Except for people in big Blue hellholes where "Defund the Police!" and Soros prosecutors ensure their nightmare will continue, all the better for them to move taking their bad politics with them, for the rest of the nation making things as bad as possible unless we vote correctly is the new normal.
    , @J1234
    @Shouting Thomas


    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force.
     
    Black criminality and physical violence have been powerful political tools for progressives long before BLM came along. Black columnist Carl Rowan wrote the book "The Coming Race War in America" many years ago, and everyday black violence of the day (most of it black on black) gave the book's absurd conclusions credibility with fearful white liberals. That's just one of thousands of examples. I'm convinced that an in depth psychological analysis of wokeness would reveal a deep seated fear of being hit, stabbed, shot, raped or murdered by blacks, at least among woke whites.
    , @TWS
    @Shouting Thomas

    I can't wait until the different factions, BLM, antifa, etc go knives out on each other.

    We'll have well and truly lost the cities by then but it might be worth it.

  11. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

    They’re pit bull owners. They’re violent morons.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Danindc

    I do think the problem is the owners. They're nearly always arseholes.

  12. But then the public gave up around the Fourth of July. Was this because the Message of the Racial Reckoning — the cops are the Bad Guys while black men shooting guns are the Good Guys — finally got through to the masses? Or is that when people realized this was just the Shootier New Normal?

    Nationally coordinated Karen Shaming.

    So, yes and yes.

  13. @El Dato

    we show a sharp drop in both the call-to-shot ratio and 911 call volume immediately after the police murder of George Floyd in May 2020
     
    Wha are they blatantly lying and not reading their own graphs?

    The 911 call volume goes UP and stays UP. It's right there.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Wha are they blatantly lying and not reading their own graphs?

    No they are not reading their own graphs. They are reading The Narrative.

    In the Current Year, data is a deuce while The Narrative is King.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @Almost Missouri


    In the Current Year, data is a deuce while The Narrative is King
     
    And Spades are trumps - obviously, and lol and HAIL KEK.

    So the Jack of Spades is the right bower (which trumps the king).

    OT but increasingly it annoys me that Trump has ruined trump as a verb.

    It was not an issue when he was just a typically-American blowhard conman land-developer with garish taste. Even when he was on TV - like Alan Sugar - pretending to know how to run a business, with nobody ever mentioning the unmentionable actual reason for his apparent success.

    I've known about Trump since the early 90s, but it's only since 2016 that 'trump' has been ruined by Trump. Trump trumps trump, paraît-il.

  14. Blacks were so traumatised by the death of George Floyd that it affected their marksmanship. Now Dictavious has to fire twice as many shots into the crowd to hit that guy who dissed him. They should apply for ammunition subsidies.

  15. Blacks who murder other blacks should be charged with a misdemeanor and forced to pay a small fine.

    Blacks who attack Whites should be executed.

    • Agree: fish
  16. You can blame the national media and political opportunists for the uptick in crime.

    The George Floyd story was a local one, and none of us should have even heard about it.

  17. @Hypnotoad666
    @Daniel H

    The event was called the "Miami Bully Takeover" and was apparently for non-papered pit bulls. So it clearly drew a different demographic than the Westminster dog show.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Vivian Pedroso, a spokeswoman for the event, said the fight began around 7 p.m. when two women began feuding over something minor

    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs. I was surprised to see a Hilton Doubletree was hosting an event like this, although based on the Trip Advisor reviews it appears the property is in decline.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Barnard

    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs.

    Haven't you been paying attention? If it was hair related it is ipso facto not minor.

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Barnard

    Went to a convention before the internet. Our group got a AAA trip planner to look up hotels. We found an affordable one with lots of parking, heated pool, sauna, all the good stuff. And when we got there.....
    All the doors had new locks. It appeared that the SWAT team had taken off yhe old ones with sledgehammers.
    The pool heater wasn't working.
    The sauna was closed for repairs.
    At least the roof didn't partially collapse, like the hotel were we stayed on the way home.

  18. The frequency of gunfire has gone in the opposite direction in rural Vermont. “Shooting parties” used to be a commonplace around here, but now, one hears only a couple of rounds every couple of weeks, likely for sighting-in, if that’s the term. It used to be gunfire was the main reminder one had neighbors, but it’s down by more than 90%.

    Shepherding resources comes more naturally to some people.

  19. There is a movement starting in my town to get rid of Shotspotter. It seems that blacks are complaining that this device is racist and the results are contributing to Disparate Impact.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @europeasant

    Shotspotter: The 5G Conspiracy of the Black Man

  20. @Shouting Thomas
    I don’t buy that BLM is a spontaneous political expression. It has an uncanny tendency to perform its act in the run up to presidential elections. Virtually every Democrat cheered on the looting, arson and violence. Police in Democratic cities ordered the police to step down. No prosecutions.

    If Trump returns to run in 2024, I think we’ll get another dose of BLM.

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    Replies: @Jim, @That Would Be Telling, @J1234, @TWS

    It’s very similar to the Nazi’s use of the Storm Troopers to gain power. Once they had gotten firmly in power Hitler brutally crushed the Storm Troopers in the Roehm blood purge. I suspect that once the Left has full control in this country they will do the same to Antifa and BLM.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jim

    Well, the Dems have more or less full control of the country already now: the media, the schools, the universities, the balloting process, the Federal bureaucracy and most of the Federal elected positions. If they want to crack down on Antifa or BLM, there is absolutely nothing stopping them. But they're not. They're only cracking down harder on heritage Americans, or "domestic extremists" as they call us now.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  21. There are rumors going around that you work out of your closet; where did you get the space to execute the dive? I never really believed the rumors. I have a picture of your office in my mind:

    • LOL: Inquiring Mind
  22. @Shouting Thomas
    I don’t buy that BLM is a spontaneous political expression. It has an uncanny tendency to perform its act in the run up to presidential elections. Virtually every Democrat cheered on the looting, arson and violence. Police in Democratic cities ordered the police to step down. No prosecutions.

    If Trump returns to run in 2024, I think we’ll get another dose of BLM.

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    Replies: @Jim, @That Would Be Telling, @J1234, @TWS

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    BLM along with Antifa, which engaged in a lot of the worst violence. And everything proves Trump along with all whites are racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    Not clear since the Democrats had to switch to Plan B overt cheating late on election night when the Plan A numbers still weren’t enough to drag “Biden” over the top.

    Although the rioting, Trump’s limp response to it, and the threat that “We’ll ‘keep the nation in flames’ unless you rid us of the turbulent BAD ORANGE MAN” likely had a role in the election being close enough that Plan B would work, or wouldn’t have to used in even more states.

    Except for people in big Blue hellholes where “Defund the Police!” and Soros prosecutors ensure their nightmare will continue, all the better for them to move taking their bad politics with them, for the rest of the nation making things as bad as possible unless we vote correctly is the new normal.

  23. Then there’s Portland, OR where a lot of whites are firing their hand cannons.

    Yes most of these whites are dysphoric fetishists or meth-addled bums, but it hardly matters. They’re still white.

    Portland may be the only city in history where whites have aped the behavior of blacks to create an unlivable trash town. With super expensive real estate by the way! When real estate prices plummet, then we can say they did the job correctly.

  24. Anyone who owns a handgun ought to maintain their pistolcraft through regular dry fire practice at home, supplemented by live fire target practice at a range. That goes for whites and blacks alike. Within city limits though, please use to a licensed indoor range. Do not take pot shots at suckah azz beatches on the streets, and do not fire into the air. Thanx.

  25. Back in 1992, East Palo Alto was the Murder Capital of America, so a Stanford professor

    And since then, EPA has gone from overwhelmingly black to overwhelmingly latinx, and its crime problem has dimished to the point where Mark Zuckerberg and other grandees live just one block away from the PA/EPA border. (Not really one block but about that distance over San Francisquito Creek.)

  26. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

    As befits a crowd in which the dogs are smarter than the owners, only humans are seen fighting.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @International Jew

    Dogs be like: "My N-word and your N-word are punching each other in the face. The usal primate shit. Let's check out TickDog while we wait for then to calm down again"

    , @kaganovitch
    @International Jew

    I was searching for the Eugene Levy character but,alas, in vain.

  27. @International Jew
    @Daniel H

    As befits a crowd in which the dogs are smarter than the owners, only humans are seen fighting.

    Replies: @El Dato, @kaganovitch

    Dogs be like: “My N-word and your N-word are punching each other in the face. The usal primate shit. Let’s check out TickDog while we wait for then to calm down again”

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
  28. @International Jew
    @Daniel H

    As befits a crowd in which the dogs are smarter than the owners, only humans are seen fighting.

    Replies: @El Dato, @kaganovitch

    I was searching for the Eugene Levy character but,alas, in vain.

  29. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

  30. But then the public gave up around the Fourth of July. Was this because the Message of the Racial Reckoning — the cops are the Bad Guys while black men shooting guns are the Good Guys — finally got through to the masses?

    Or is that when people realized this was just the Shootier New Normal?

    I’d imagine that as gunshots become more frequent, the public becomes desensitized – at least insofar as those who hear the gunfire begin to figure that someone else will or already has made the 911 call. It’s probably more of this spreading of responsibility commensurate with the increase than anything else.

    However, keep in mind that at least on the fringes of BLM (the whole thing is the fringe, but of course there is a media curated part) it was proposed that calling police on blacks in the act was tantamount to killing them, so you have to imagine that the message got through to at least some blacks and some pro-BLM PMC whites in gentrified areas who might hear gunfire from time to time. Like maybe a hipster who hears shots reasons “well, these black guys probably missed each other when they were shooting, but if I call the cops a racist white officer with marksmanship skill will arrive and just execute these guys willy-nilly and that would be really bad so I’m just going to mind my own business.”

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Note that at first the response was proportional i.e. more Righteous
    Discharges (tm) -> more calls, and only after some ("learning") interval
    did it drop; this can mean:

    1) public has become calloused to Righteous Discharges (tm)
    2) public has groked de popo don´t react to Righteous Discharges (tm)

    It can NOT mean public regards Righteous Discharges (tm) as justified,
    Saint Fentanyl the Breathless an sheet, or there would be no initial surge in calls.
    It can further NOT mean wayciss, or the number of calls in White
    hoods (heh) would have remained high.
    Depending on how they are counted, it may be that

    1a) number of shots per Righteous Discharge Event (tm) has increased.

  31. I wonder what the street cop that has to answer the ShotSpotter detection scheme thinks of it.? Since a person hearing a shot is going to take some time to process that event and eventually contact LE, that means there’s more time for the shooter to transit the immediate crime scene and thus REDUCE the danger to the answering cop.

    So far ShotSpotter has resulted in two Chicago cops being terminated by trains, and at least one being shot by a perp.

    Doesn’t seem like something that benefits the longevity of cops…

  32. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

    Gathering a bunch of pitbull owners from all over the country in one place, what could go wrong?

  33. @Shouting Thomas
    I don’t buy that BLM is a spontaneous political expression. It has an uncanny tendency to perform its act in the run up to presidential elections. Virtually every Democrat cheered on the looting, arson and violence. Police in Democratic cities ordered the police to step down. No prosecutions.

    If Trump returns to run in 2024, I think we’ll get another dose of BLM.

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    Replies: @Jim, @That Would Be Telling, @J1234, @TWS

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force.

    Black criminality and physical violence have been powerful political tools for progressives long before BLM came along. Black columnist Carl Rowan wrote the book “The Coming Race War in America” many years ago, and everyday black violence of the day (most of it black on black) gave the book’s absurd conclusions credibility with fearful white liberals. That’s just one of thousands of examples. I’m convinced that an in depth psychological analysis of wokeness would reveal a deep seated fear of being hit, stabbed, shot, raped or murdered by blacks, at least among woke whites.

  34. @Shouting Thomas
    I don’t buy that BLM is a spontaneous political expression. It has an uncanny tendency to perform its act in the run up to presidential elections. Virtually every Democrat cheered on the looting, arson and violence. Police in Democratic cities ordered the police to step down. No prosecutions.

    If Trump returns to run in 2024, I think we’ll get another dose of BLM.

    What I’m saying here is that it looks to me like BLM is the DNC’s private paramilitary force. What I don’t understand about this tactic is that somehow torching and looting cities is supposed to prove that Trump is a racist.

    But, it seems to work to some extent or the Democrats wouldn’t keep running the show.

    Replies: @Jim, @That Would Be Telling, @J1234, @TWS

    I can’t wait until the different factions, BLM, antifa, etc go knives out on each other.

    We’ll have well and truly lost the cities by then but it might be worth it.

  35. @Daniel H
    OT: Dog shows are genteel, gentile, WASPY, right? Right? Yeah, but.....


    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/violent-brawl-breaks-out-at-miami-dog-show/

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Danindc, @International Jew, @epebble, @Sick 'n Tired, @Trinity

    I hope none of the dogs were hurt.

  36. Shotspotter appears to be very flawed. The Citizen app is a phone app that tells you about ongoing police and fire department activity in a given area. The Citizen app in NYC has incorporated the shotspotter data. So many times every night your phone goes off with a notification that shotspotter indicates that shots have been fired. Would appear it makes far more notifications of gunfire than there is actual gunfire. Many loud noises-fireworks especially, but also loud cars and motorcycles, trucks loading and unloading, loud music-are things shotspotter thinks are really gunfire. Readily agree gun violence in cities is up, but shotspotter many not be a very good way to determine that until it figures out how to weed out sounds that are not really gunfire.

  37. Oakland PD informs that ’21 murders are on a record-breaking pace; a month ago the body count had already hit 100.

    Its ShotSpotter has been ringing off-the-hook these past whatever number of months. The high numbers certainly indicate more thugs firing their guns (usually at one another), which is the important thing. The amusing aspect is that OPD union guys don’t understand the principle of triangulation.

    OPD issues a regular report of local crime statistics. It includes the number of SS alarms, i.e. # of detected event(s), as though each event were an independent shooting (emptying a clip counts as one event). Further down, in the news release, it provides a count of the number of shootings, with no further analysis or discussion, that’s always around ⅓ of the SS number.

    [MORE]

    East Palo Alto was the Murder Capital of America

    Voters just down the road from E Palo Alto, within the Los Gatos Union School District, are now being asked to approve Measure B, which would extend and increase (\$290 -> \$335) the parcel tax. Nearby, the Berryessa Union School District is trying to extend its own, \$79 per parcel tax.

  38. So here in ruralish Maryland 30 miles away from Lagos on the Bay, Bmore to the inhabitants I hear a gunshot every week or two. Both my floor and the police are as unaffected by this as I am.

    This might be the next test for residential desirability on Zillow “% of people who take cover when hearing shots”

    In yet more great news, Chicago seems to have found the solution to America’s education problem.
    They have a system whereby in just 12 months 58 percent of students can go from illiterate and innumerate to graduation material.

    https://surattimes.com/news/how-can-84-of-chicago-public-schools-students-graduate-when-only-26-of-11th-graders-are-proficient-in-reading-math?uid=169042

  39. First, ShotSpotter advertises itself as being able to differentiate gun shots from firecrackers, backfires and other loud noises.

    Second, my personal experience from living in a vibrant neighborhood is that gunfire is more rhythmic than firecrackers.

    Guns go “pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop”

    Firecrackers go “pop. pop. popitty-pop-pop. pop-pop”

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Paul Mendez

    Wow, that description of firecrackers vs. guns is perfect. I've heard way too many of both my entire life. And firecrackers have always been illegal here in CA. Chortle. It's never seemed to matter.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Paul Mendez


    Guns go “pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop”
     
    Firearm Cadence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLYpbEmomh4
  40. the return of Black Lives Matter led to blacks shooting each other in large numbers

    Accounting for accuracy, shooting at each other.

    Better still: shooting in each other’s general vicinity.

    I don’t see what all the fuss is about, so long as their shenanigans stay in ‘da hood‘, where even collateral damage involves a smaller (and possibly negative) social loss.

  41. @Almost Missouri
    @El Dato


    Wha are they blatantly lying and not reading their own graphs?
     
    No they are not reading their own graphs. They are reading The Narrative.

    In the Current Year, data is a deuce while The Narrative is King.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    In the Current Year, data is a deuce while The Narrative is King

    And Spades are trumps – obviously, and lol and HAIL KEK.

    So the Jack of Spades is the right bower (which trumps the king).

    OT but increasingly it annoys me that Trump has ruined trump as a verb.

    It was not an issue when he was just a typically-American blowhard conman land-developer with garish taste. Even when he was on TV – like Alan Sugar – pretending to know how to run a business, with nobody ever mentioning the unmentionable actual reason for his apparent success.

    I’ve known about Trump since the early 90s, but it’s only since 2016 that ‘trump‘ has been ruined by Trump. Trump trumps trump, paraît-il.

  42. @George
    Racial Reckoning? It looks to me more like reckoning with the end of the GWOT and the massive debt and other obligations left behind. Resources that were available to purchase urban peace are no longer available. Basically the same situation as the end of the war in Vietnam.

    Replies: @peterike

    Resources that were available to purchase urban peace are no longer available.

    Like what? And I haven’t noticed some massive collapse in government spending, have you?

  43. I thought it was always “Shots Rang Out“…

    Alec Baldwin style.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Muggles

    Baldwin literally shot his wad.

  44. @Barnard
    @Hypnotoad666


    Vivian Pedroso, a spokeswoman for the event, said the fight began around 7 p.m. when two women began feuding over something minor
     
    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs. I was surprised to see a Hilton Doubletree was hosting an event like this, although based on the Trip Advisor reviews it appears the property is in decline.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Redneck farmer

    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs.

    Haven’t you been paying attention? If it was hair related it is ipso facto not minor.

  45. @Muggles
    I thought it was always "Shots Rang Out"...

    Alec Baldwin style.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Baldwin literally shot his wad.

  46. @europeasant
    There is a movement starting in my town to get rid of Shotspotter. It seems that blacks are complaining that this device is racist and the results are contributing to Disparate Impact.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Shotspotter: The 5G Conspiracy of the Black Man

  47. @Redneck farmer
    Waiting for the article that explains how fewer Whites calling 911 is racist.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Red, a 17 year old black girl was shot and killed two weeks ago in Buffalo. She was shot while riding in a car or van. Thre driver drove more than a mile before he stopped and sought help. No one at or near the actual shooting site called 911 or the police. I wonder why?

  48. @Jim
    @Shouting Thomas

    It’s very similar to the Nazi’s use of the Storm Troopers to gain power. Once they had gotten firmly in power Hitler brutally crushed the Storm Troopers in the Roehm blood purge. I suspect that once the Left has full control in this country they will do the same to Antifa and BLM.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Well, the Dems have more or less full control of the country already now: the media, the schools, the universities, the balloting process, the Federal bureaucracy and most of the Federal elected positions. If they want to crack down on Antifa or BLM, there is absolutely nothing stopping them. But they’re not. They’re only cracking down harder on heritage Americans, or “domestic extremists” as they call us now.

    • Agree: Guest29048
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Almost Missouri

    The liquidation of Roehm and suppression of the SA was mostly a power play by Himmler and his SS to officially supplant them, although as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the "socialism" part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.

    Ultimately, Hitler believed Germany was in an 11th hour situation and he was willing to take all the help he could get as long as they respected him and weren't Jews. Thus his unwillingness to purge the Roman Catholic clerical hierarchy in Bavaria like he did with Lutheran Protestants, that would have alienated too many normies he desperately needed.

    The context here is completely different, we're in a Leftist revolution where no status except from the Party such as it is dregs of society along with uncontrolled blacks are needed for a whole bunch of things to suppress and punish middle, which won't stop if the Left gets more control and can attempt to move to the purging stage. Sure, some on their side people like Roehm who aren't sufficiently self-disciplined or able to be disciplined to get with the program and official Party Line will need to be purged to make that work, but it's a side show.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @nokangaroos

  49. @Barnard
    @Hypnotoad666


    Vivian Pedroso, a spokeswoman for the event, said the fight began around 7 p.m. when two women began feuding over something minor
     
    I wonder if the something minor was hair related, either on the women or the dogs. I was surprised to see a Hilton Doubletree was hosting an event like this, although based on the Trip Advisor reviews it appears the property is in decline.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Redneck farmer

    Went to a convention before the internet. Our group got a AAA trip planner to look up hotels. We found an affordable one with lots of parking, heated pool, sauna, all the good stuff. And when we got there…..
    All the doors had new locks. It appeared that the SWAT team had taken off yhe old ones with sledgehammers.
    The pool heater wasn’t working.
    The sauna was closed for repairs.
    At least the roof didn’t partially collapse, like the hotel were we stayed on the way home.

  50. How well does ShotSpotter pinpoint the location of the shot? If it can co it to within, say, five feet, then you could use cell phone GPS data to find out who the shooter was, or at least know who was near the shooter. Eventually, blacks would figure out that they needed to leave their phones wt home for a drive-by time, but you might catch spur-of-the-moment shooters.

    Also, blacks could be fitted with implanted conscientiousness assistants, if all young blacks had a voice in their heads and a camera in their required google glass eyewear, so they know they’d get caught if they commit a crime, maybe that would reduce the black crime rate.

    That, or someone needs to teach these boys how to shoot! There are way too many wounded. Wounded is more expensive for society. Sometimes, a lot more expensive. Kills likely save us money, because they don’t have to be incarcerated in their form-bands-and-fight-the-other-bands-for-women life phase. On the other hand, wounded can mean up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs. They need dialysis, cuz they lost their livers. They need wheelchairs and benefits for the rest of their lives, they need ever-scarce donated organs, depriving decent alcoholics of the livers they need. There are all kinds of costs of wounded blacks. I hate to say it, but dead blacks, the sort people shoot at, are probably better for society at large.

    [MORE]

    Blacks should work on their behavior, just in case a right-wing regime comes into power and has cold-hearted bean counters. Maybe tech companies can prevent that, but real-world interpersonal contact, which the working class has, but more and more the professional and chatty classes do not have, means a real-world revolution that happens later, and so is worse for everyone, still happens. Seems to me that stopping immigration completely, which removes the immediate cause of conservative dissatisfaction, is the most reasonable thing to do. The American system is built on compromise and the people in power not pushing things too far. I think that’s an aspect of Old America that we have lost.

    We should be in favor of bikeable cities and towns, the FBI might not think to tag your bicycle. You should ride a bike or walk to your real-world concerned citizens group meetings.

    I wonder if Russia is going to build an orbital internet connection system like StarLink, or whatever it’s called. Americans could communicate on it. The US government would jam it or destroy it, which sounds to me like an act of war…

  51. The dive to the floor seems unduly anxiety-ish, even by the standards of a precaution-taker named SafeNow. I just hope Jen does not get wind of this; we will all be branded as people who dive to the floor whenever they hear a noise. Anyway, that graph on the right is great, as are the various theories set forth in the comments – – Sailer University is the best!

  52. @Almost Missouri
    @Jim

    Well, the Dems have more or less full control of the country already now: the media, the schools, the universities, the balloting process, the Federal bureaucracy and most of the Federal elected positions. If they want to crack down on Antifa or BLM, there is absolutely nothing stopping them. But they're not. They're only cracking down harder on heritage Americans, or "domestic extremists" as they call us now.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    The liquidation of Roehm and suppression of the SA was mostly a power play by Himmler and his SS to officially supplant them, although as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the “socialism” part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.

    Ultimately, Hitler believed Germany was in an 11th hour situation and he was willing to take all the help he could get as long as they respected him and weren’t Jews. Thus his unwillingness to purge the Roman Catholic clerical hierarchy in Bavaria like he did with Lutheran Protestants, that would have alienated too many normies he desperately needed.

    The context here is completely different, we’re in a Leftist revolution where no status except from the Party such as it is dregs of society along with uncontrolled blacks are needed for a whole bunch of things to suppress and punish middle, which won’t stop if the Left gets more control and can attempt to move to the purging stage. Sure, some on their side people like Roehm who aren’t sufficiently self-disciplined or able to be disciplined to get with the program and official Party Line will need to be purged to make that work, but it’s a side show.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @That Would Be Telling


    ...as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the “socialism” part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.
     
    Plus he was stealing all the young blond studs from microphallic Adi.



    https://learndojo.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hitler-Youth.jpg

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @El Dato

    , @nokangaroos
    @That Would Be Telling

    Good points ... Röhm envisioned the SA ultimately subsuming/supplanting
    the Party, the State and the Wehrmacht i.e. he made too many enemies at once
    (and the Führer used the SS, the outgrowth of the original
    Leibstandarte (bodyguard), to get rid of him).

    Should BLM ever get that ambitious, theirs is not much longer on this planet either.

  53. …that sounded to me more like gunfire than firecrackers.

    It does lead one to wonder, when a major brand of firecrackers features a samurai in its logo– committing seppuku:

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    a major brand of firecrackers features a samurai in its logo– committing seppuku
     
    Logo was probably designed by an aggrieved Chinaman.
  54. @That Would Be Telling
    @Almost Missouri

    The liquidation of Roehm and suppression of the SA was mostly a power play by Himmler and his SS to officially supplant them, although as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the "socialism" part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.

    Ultimately, Hitler believed Germany was in an 11th hour situation and he was willing to take all the help he could get as long as they respected him and weren't Jews. Thus his unwillingness to purge the Roman Catholic clerical hierarchy in Bavaria like he did with Lutheran Protestants, that would have alienated too many normies he desperately needed.

    The context here is completely different, we're in a Leftist revolution where no status except from the Party such as it is dregs of society along with uncontrolled blacks are needed for a whole bunch of things to suppress and punish middle, which won't stop if the Left gets more control and can attempt to move to the purging stage. Sure, some on their side people like Roehm who aren't sufficiently self-disciplined or able to be disciplined to get with the program and official Party Line will need to be purged to make that work, but it's a side show.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @nokangaroos

    …as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the “socialism” part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.

    Plus he was stealing all the young blond studs from microphallic Adi.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar

    Looks like a Leyendecker. I didn't know he played for the other team. I mean, not that other team.

    , @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't think Adolf was into Roehm-style extravaganza.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  55. Is there a Shot Spotter for movie sets?

  56. @Reg Cæsar

    ...that sounded to me more like gunfire than firecrackers.
     
    It does lead one to wonder, when a major brand of firecrackers features a samurai in its logo-- committing seppuku:


    https://atlasimporters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/shogun-logo-1-195x150.jpg

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    a major brand of firecrackers features a samurai in its logo– committing seppuku

    Logo was probably designed by an aggrieved Chinaman.

  57. @Danindc
    @Daniel H

    They’re pit bull owners. They’re violent morons.

    Replies: @Lurker

    I do think the problem is the owners. They’re nearly always arseholes.

  58. @Reg Cæsar
    @That Would Be Telling


    ...as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the “socialism” part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.
     
    Plus he was stealing all the young blond studs from microphallic Adi.



    https://learndojo.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hitler-Youth.jpg

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @El Dato

    Looks like a Leyendecker. I didn’t know he played for the other team. I mean, not that other team.

  59. Does Mrs Sailer ever miss her hometown?

    Man Found Shot And Killed Inside Portable Toilet In South Austin

    Would the ShotSpotter have picked these up, or mistaken them for loud, echoing flatulence?

  60. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    But then the public gave up around the Fourth of July. Was this because the Message of the Racial Reckoning — the cops are the Bad Guys while black men shooting guns are the Good Guys — finally got through to the masses?

    Or is that when people realized this was just the Shootier New Normal?
     
    I'd imagine that as gunshots become more frequent, the public becomes desensitized - at least insofar as those who hear the gunfire begin to figure that someone else will or already has made the 911 call. It's probably more of this spreading of responsibility commensurate with the increase than anything else.

    However, keep in mind that at least on the fringes of BLM (the whole thing is the fringe, but of course there is a media curated part) it was proposed that calling police on blacks in the act was tantamount to killing them, so you have to imagine that the message got through to at least some blacks and some pro-BLM PMC whites in gentrified areas who might hear gunfire from time to time. Like maybe a hipster who hears shots reasons "well, these black guys probably missed each other when they were shooting, but if I call the cops a racist white officer with marksmanship skill will arrive and just execute these guys willy-nilly and that would be really bad so I'm just going to mind my own business."

    Replies: @nokangaroos

    Note that at first the response was proportional i.e. more Righteous
    Discharges ™ -> more calls, and only after some (“learning”) interval
    did it drop; this can mean:

    1) public has become calloused to Righteous Discharges ™
    2) public has groked de popo don´t react to Righteous Discharges ™

    It can NOT mean public regards Righteous Discharges ™ as justified,
    Saint Fentanyl the Breathless an sheet, or there would be no initial surge in calls.
    It can further NOT mean wayciss, or the number of calls in White
    hoods (heh) would have remained high.
    Depending on how they are counted, it may be that

    1a) number of shots per Righteous Discharge Event ™ has increased.

  61. @That Would Be Telling
    @Almost Missouri

    The liquidation of Roehm and suppression of the SA was mostly a power play by Himmler and his SS to officially supplant them, although as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the "socialism" part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.

    Ultimately, Hitler believed Germany was in an 11th hour situation and he was willing to take all the help he could get as long as they respected him and weren't Jews. Thus his unwillingness to purge the Roman Catholic clerical hierarchy in Bavaria like he did with Lutheran Protestants, that would have alienated too many normies he desperately needed.

    The context here is completely different, we're in a Leftist revolution where no status except from the Party such as it is dregs of society along with uncontrolled blacks are needed for a whole bunch of things to suppress and punish middle, which won't stop if the Left gets more control and can attempt to move to the purging stage. Sure, some on their side people like Roehm who aren't sufficiently self-disciplined or able to be disciplined to get with the program and official Party Line will need to be purged to make that work, but it's a side show.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @nokangaroos

    Good points … Röhm envisioned the SA ultimately subsuming/supplanting
    the Party, the State and the Wehrmacht i.e. he made too many enemies at once
    (and the Führer used the SS, the outgrowth of the original
    Leibstandarte (bodyguard), to get rid of him).

    Should BLM ever get that ambitious, theirs is not much longer on this planet either.

  62. @Reg Cæsar
    @That Would Be Telling


    ...as I understand it Roehm was serious enough about the “socialism” part of the NASDP that he was getting troublesome.
     
    Plus he was stealing all the young blond studs from microphallic Adi.



    https://learndojo.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hitler-Youth.jpg

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @El Dato

    I don’t think Adolf was into Roehm-style extravaganza.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato

    He was in the Wandschrank.

  63. @Paul Mendez
    First, ShotSpotter advertises itself as being able to differentiate gun shots from firecrackers, backfires and other loud noises.

    Second, my personal experience from living in a vibrant neighborhood is that gunfire is more rhythmic than firecrackers.

    Guns go “pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop”

    Firecrackers go “pop. pop. popitty-pop-pop. pop-pop”

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Joe Stalin

    Wow, that description of firecrackers vs. guns is perfect. I’ve heard way too many of both my entire life. And firecrackers have always been illegal here in CA. Chortle. It’s never seemed to matter.

  64. @Paul Mendez
    First, ShotSpotter advertises itself as being able to differentiate gun shots from firecrackers, backfires and other loud noises.

    Second, my personal experience from living in a vibrant neighborhood is that gunfire is more rhythmic than firecrackers.

    Guns go “pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop”

    Firecrackers go “pop. pop. popitty-pop-pop. pop-pop”

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Joe Stalin

    Guns go “pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop”

    Firearm Cadence.

  65. @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't think Adolf was into Roehm-style extravaganza.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    He was in the Wandschrank.

  66. In general, the colder it becomes outside, the higher a likely shooter’s pants will be worn. Pants tend to be hiked up to nearly belt level territory by mid-November. Higher pants, more upper-body clothing may lead to the shooter experiencing delayed readiness. Just another thing to consider.

    Another factor is that sound travels better in colder temps. And the foliage mass is reduced, so less baffling.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @Kibernetika


    Another factor is that sound travels better in colder temps.
     
    Sound travels faster in hot air. It travels farther in cold air. Not sure which is "better." Increased humidity also allows sound waves to travel faster, which is why explosive experts try to avoid setting them off in high humidity conditions.
    https://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/SpeedofSound.html
  67. @Kibernetika
    In general, the colder it becomes outside, the higher a likely shooter's pants will be worn. Pants tend to be hiked up to nearly belt level territory by mid-November. Higher pants, more upper-body clothing may lead to the shooter experiencing delayed readiness. Just another thing to consider.

    Another factor is that sound travels better in colder temps. And the foliage mass is reduced, so less baffling.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    Another factor is that sound travels better in colder temps.

    Sound travels faster in hot air. It travels farther in cold air. Not sure which is “better.” Increased humidity also allows sound waves to travel faster, which is why explosive experts try to avoid setting them off in high humidity conditions.
    https://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/SpeedofSound.html

  68. I’ll share a story from my youth. I lived in the ghetto. I inhabited (with a couple buddies) the only white occupied house on my street. It was Independence Day and we had illegally obtained a quantity of Chinese crap that blew up.

    Now on our highly diverse street in the 80’s, there were daily shootings and stabbings by the diverse population. The police came when they had no alternative.

    So, after about 45 minutes of blowing up fireworks in the street, along comes a parade of cop cars. The first one pulls up to the drunken crackers in the street amid a rubble of exploded Chinese debris, asks me if I have heard any gunfire, and upon my assurance that I have not, quickly rolls up his window and leads the parade of pigs safely from my neighborhood.

    So you’re maybe 40 years behind Detriot there Steve? And LA was never the city that Detriot was in the first place. Fortunately, most of you boomers won’t be forced to witness the future you bequeathed your progeny. Your wisdom in acquiescence of the Detriotification of the nation will be remembered for eternity.

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