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From the L.A. Times:

Shots reportedly fired at Trump car caravan leads to tense standoff in Woodland Hills

By ALEX WIGGLESWORTH, FRANCINE ORR , RICHARD WINTON, ANGEL JENNINGS, MATTHEW ORMSETH
AUG. 30, 2020 3:24 PM UPDATED 4:15 PM

Tactical teams were trying to draw three men out of an apartment building in Woodland Hills on Sunday after Los Angeles police received reports that one of them may have fired gunshots at a pro-Trump vehicle caravan.

No one was hurt at the rally, and police were still trying determine exactly what happened.

Officer Will Cooper of the Los Angeles Police Department said officials received a report that a man was firing at a caravan as it traveled along Ventura Boulevard near Chalk Hill shortly before 11:30 a.m. The incident was initially described as someone brandishing a firearm and throwing bottles at the vehicles but was later updated to include a report of shots fired, he said. …

A woman who was driving east on Ventura past the procession heard what sounded like gunshots and noticed her tire went flat, Los Angeles police said in a news release. When she inspected it, she found it had been damaged by a projectile, possibly a bullet or a bullet fragment, police said.

Or maybe her tire exploded, although that doesn’t happen too often anymore.

Jorge Rodriguez, deputy chief of the LAPD Valley bureau, said the department obtained a photo of man with a rifle on the balcony of an apartment unit. It’s unclear what kind of rifle he was holding. …

A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …

“It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”

But now, here they were, a caravan with Trump flags waving on the back of their pick up truck cruising down Ventura Boulevard.

The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

“We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

Here’s the first reported photograph of the alleged Los Angeles shooter:

Correction, here’s the only known photograph of the alleged Los Angeles shooter:

So, no, Steven Spielberg was (in all probability) not the Los Angeles shooter.

Sam Hyde was.

But, Los Angeles is a lot more heavily armed than outsiders might think.

 
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  1. Wow! Color me shocked.

  2. anon[155] • Disclaimer says:

    Leftard Twatter has been shrieking that Kyle Rittenhouse hunted down and murdered people purely because of politics. With that lie bouncing around inside the echo chamber it is not a really huge stretch for someone to decide to go a little kinetic on a Bad Orange Man car caravan.

    It would be a really good service to the entire country if the Main Stream Media could cool down their own screaming and quit serving up pure hatred. But the MSM does not serve the entire country, so I guess that won’t be happening any time soon, or at all. When the history is written, the evil role of the MSM in stoking the haters must be given a prominent place.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Is MSM even required? The deadwood's ready to ignite in all coastal cities. Also, apparently, quite a few Mississippi-watershed locales.

    Button-clicky folks with whom I remain e-friends, previously hymned the noble mail-carriers, then switched on a dime to "Hunting!!11 Hunting!!111 REEEE" sort of two-minutes-isms. That is just a strange reaction to a Chicago-area skateboard-vs.-rifle skirmish, no? I suspect they can't keep it straight, Dunbar style, whether they're supposed to rage relatively more about Floyd, or Blake, or Rittenhouse's harder-to-recollect victims, or whoever's the Bum of the Month.

    Just 4-5 elections ago only hosts for Air America seemed to act like this (as scornful parody of RW talk radio) but I viddy this Dostoevsky energy from the "fair trade" "Volvo-driving" vegan set now too/

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    I agree. The MSM is truly the enemy of the people. I don't know how those who work in that industry can live with themselves.

    , @bomag
    @anon

    Joining Big Media has become akin to joining a cult: absorb the doctrine and hate on the enemies.

    And get paid (sometimes).

  3. Trump needs to repeatedly make this point:

    The Democrats, the left, progressives routinely physically attack people on “the right”, attempt to deny them the right to speak. There is a clear continuing pattern of this from universities, to the Trump rallies in 2016, to Charlottesville, to BLM protests, to people simply defending property from looters (like Kenosha) people, to these attacks on Trump rallies now.

    The left/minoritarians/Democrats/BLM/Antifa are unwilling to allow conservatives to speak … or even exist. They are totalitarian thugs.

    Trump needs to keep pointing this out again and again and again. Force the media/Democrats to react with their denials and nonsense. But get this reality into the consciousness of ordinary Americans.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad

    Addendum:

    While beating on this issue of Democrat/leftist thuggery and denying conservatives the right to speak, without which there can be no democracy ...

    Trump should frame the election with a simple observation:

    There are two primary core functions of government:

    1) Protect the nation's territory and people from invasion by foreigners, so that the nation is passed intact to our descendants, our posterity.

    2) Enforce, public order, the rule-of-law so that citizens can peacefully go about our business and hence build prosperity.

    And the Democrats are against doing both of these!

    , @Ma Laoshi
    @AnotherDad

    The presidency is not another pundit job. He could, you know, do something about it if he'd show any interest. After four years, I think we've seen enough to know that he's only animated by the fortunes of Wall Street (very much including his own), plus the whims and needs of Bibi Netanyahu. But go ahead, re-elect him, then you'll see the "true Trump" or whatever.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad, reading your comment, which is excellent, reminds me of cuomo and his minions and the Abortion on Request Law in NY. If you disagreed, and remember faith plays a part in this, cuomo said you should leave NY. So much for a difference of opinion.

  4. OT: There was a march by 700 rioters in Oakland on Wednesday. Of course they did their usual smashing and arson.

    tps://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300200578367152129

  5. The most undercovered story of the last half decade:

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, Bubba
    • Thanks: Pop Warner, Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    @Percy Gryce

    Absolutely.

    In terms of now forgotten stories from the last century or so, I'd nominate the political terrorism of the 70s (bombings, bank robberies, Zebra killings) and, from the 50s, the attacks on Harry Truman and the Capital Building by Puerto Rican Nationalists.

    , @Coemgen
    @Percy Gryce

    I thought you were referring to Train Carrying GOP Lawmakers Hits Garbage Truck In Virginia. Probably just a coincidence, much like the catastrophic failure of water system supplying metropolitan Boston shortly after Republican Senator from Massachusetts, Scott Brown, voted against Obamacare was just a coincidence.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  6. Well Corvinus will be exceptionally happy. Corvinus has been working for this for years, and finally his dream has come true.

  7. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:

    What a shame the Deplorable killed last night died for Kushnerism.

    He thought he was a Trumpist fighting for Trumpism but Trumpism is a rhetorical pack of lies masking the Kushnerist agenda.

    The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables.

    DO NOT LET THE NEXT DEAD BODY BE YOU OR A LOVED ONE

    • Troll: Muggles
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Anonymous

    Take your concern-trolling and shove it up your ass.

    Trump has been a great disappointment when compared to what we hoped he would be. Yet, somehow, at the same time the difference between what we got from him and what we would have gotten from Hillary has proven to be much greater than we imagined at the time. When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Tex
    @Anonymous

    Nah, that won't cut it.

    Try something like:

    Hello orphans of the Pacific. You're stuck on Guadalcanal while lounge lizards make love to your sweetheart back in USA. How will you get home now that your ships are all sunk?

    Then kick over to some light music. I vote for Lale Anderson singing "Lili Marleen." Cardi B is just going to make the GIs turn off.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables."

    I make this point to family members who think highly of President Blumpft!. I follow up with the fact that the white working class has no representation in establishment politics. They call me a bad name and ask to borrow money.

  8. A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …

    as? That’s pretty unclear.

    The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

    “We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

    Who is that idiot, just some valley girl wanting to show off her bod to the guys on the helicopter?

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood.

    Yeah, Southerners shoot at the President all the time. I mean just last century the “Texans” got that one guy.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood
     
    You misspelled "the USA"
    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Omigod, is this seriously happening, I like totally don't know anybody who is into Trump. I mean, Seriously? Aren't they like into him in, like, Mississippi or one of those other racist countries. He is fer shur not cool though. I mean, this is like totally surreal or whatever, but the pool is nice."

    Lucky the LA Times got that insightful quote from Valley Girl.

    , @LeavingCAsoon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My former office is two block down the street. Ventura blvd. The Hills are South of Ventura Blvd, and line the South coridor of the SFV, I sold my home in March now out of the State. The SFV remainder of Woodland Hills, in the "Valley Basin". I evacuated, fled Los Angeles, weeks ago. Was there last Tuesday to clear out the rest of my office items. I'm glad there was a Trump presence, as most I knew were silent , in fear of being beat, or homes, cars vandalized or home burned down. The L.A. snot noses can be very violent, and go Trump Syndrome in seconds. Glad to be out of that cesspool of Marxists, Libtards.

    , @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She wasn’t surprised at the helicopter. She was shocked, shocked that there are Republican Trump supporters in Ca.

  9. Not being overly familiar with LA geography, if Woodland Hills is in fact composed of hills, how can it be part of the San Fernando Valley?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Ventura Boulevard runs at the south edge of the flatlands of the San Fernando Valley, on the right bank of the Los Angeles River, just before the land slopes up into the Hollywood Hills. So, the suburban neighborhood of Woodland Hills is roughly half on the flat land and half in the hills.

    Ventura Blvd. is parallel to the more famous Sunset Blvd. on the south side of the Hollywood Hills. The Hollywood Hills is a tilted bloc formation with a steep north side and a gentle south side, so Ventura mostly sticks to the flatlands rather than the precipitous north side of the hills, while Sunset wanders up more into the foothills, which makes for all those famous curves that lead to 6 figure cars crashing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx9DQsu55Dg

    Replies: @Sparkon

    , @t
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    In Chicago there are areas like Archer Heights that are not only flat but built on reclaimed swamp, it helped sell the houses a century ago.

  10. The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has “incited” all of this and “fanned the flames.”

    Trump’s campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as “Nazis.” Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch “Nazis.”

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They’ve accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They’ve essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They’ve funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn’t seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they’re taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. “Look what you made us do!!” This is known as “DARVO,” “Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender,” and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Thomas

    A big reason why this is relevant right now in the election is that this issue, the slander and demonization of Trump supporters, was literally the genesis of the Biden campaign and is core to Biden's case. His first announcement of his candidacy on April 25, 2019 was his first of many invocations of the Charlottesville "fine people" lie.

    If he and his campaign are forced onto the defensive on this issue, and are put into a choice of either abandoning and disavowing their central argument or else taking responsibility for the current violence, they'll be in a dilemma they likely won't be able to get out of. Biden isn't supported by enough of what there is of the Democratic base now without relying on the hatred of the left for Trump and his supporters. If he's forced to disavow that hatred, he probably loses. If he's forced to take responsibility for the chaos wracking the country right now, he also probably loses.

    Replies: @gent, @Dieter Kief

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Thomas

    DARVO works on a lot of normies, though.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Thomas

    '... even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands...'

    'Might'?

    I wouldn't consider putting on a 'Make America Great Again' cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki

    , @Dr. X
    @Thomas


    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.
     
    Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote "It is better to be feared than loved," but the Left doesn't fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn't happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it's Game On -- riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Almost Missouri, @RadicalCenter, @Corvinus

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Thomas

    The only point you make with which I would quibble is that this started with Trump's inauguration. As I'm sure you know, it started more than a year before that, including the Obama administration's surveillance of his campaign.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Thomas

    "Don't make me be a bad guy!"

    https://youtu.be/3-d5yU-aQ34

    , @anonymous
    @Thomas

    To be fair there has been a lot of white supremacist violence over the last 5 years. Just last August, a white shooter aggrieved with the "Hispanic invasion" killed 23 Latinos at a Walmart in El Paso.

    Replies: @bomag, @Almost Missouri

  11. I laughed at the clueless editorial aside that this story “seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.” With the exception of super-blue Atlanta, very few shots have been fired in the South over Trump or BLM. The West Coast and upper Midwest, on the other hand…

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Admiral Assbar

    Right. The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful. Hardly a peep from New Orleans or Houston. And where it got more heated was in some of the whiter cities, ironically, like Nashville and Huntsville. But that was extremely short-lived compared to up North and our West.

    Maybe the rest of the country needs to take note of the calmer race relations in the South, as well as the more laidback attitude towards life.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  12. “Something that might happen in the South but not here?” Five reporters on the byline and not one told the other four they are complete retards?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Known Fact

    Never go full retard!

  13. What, exactly, can’t happen in California?

    • A balcony shooter?
    • A Trump-supporting caravan?
    • A Trump supporter?

  14. “When I
    Put things
    Back in
    Place,
    There were
    Two parts
    I had
    Left.
    I won’t
    Let things
    Go to
    Waste.
    What do
    You think
    I’ll do
    Next?”

    — The Fastbacks

  15. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    A big reason why this is relevant right now in the election is that this issue, the slander and demonization of Trump supporters, was literally the genesis of the Biden campaign and is core to Biden’s case. His first announcement of his candidacy on April 25, 2019 was his first of many invocations of the Charlottesville “fine people” lie.

    If he and his campaign are forced onto the defensive on this issue, and are put into a choice of either abandoning and disavowing their central argument or else taking responsibility for the current violence, they’ll be in a dilemma they likely won’t be able to get out of. Biden isn’t supported by enough of what there is of the Democratic base now without relying on the hatred of the left for Trump and his supporters. If he’s forced to disavow that hatred, he probably loses. If he’s forced to take responsibility for the chaos wracking the country right now, he also probably loses.

    • Agree: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @gent
    @Thomas

    Trump should embrace the "fine people" line and restate it. Only my supporters are "fine people", yours are addicts, liars and terrorists.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Thomas

    Joe Biden made two major points at his DNC speech which were both on the wrong side of social reality, to put it mildly - his Charlotteville point and his George Floyd point.

    (Now more than 50% of the US citizens think, Joe Biden has mental issues (= is demented to a degree). - If you look into this constellation with a rather Faustian look, you end up saying the democrats made a pact with the devil, which allows them the most absurd lies, since they can always back off and say: It was not us who said this, but a mentally ill old man.

    Or this dementia story gets told this way: Yep, all this might not be 100% correct, but what do you want to do - attack an obviously mentally handicapped old man with his heart in the right place - you're splitting hair here - you clearly must be a coldhearted Trump supporter - if not a Nazi!

  16. anon[155] • Disclaimer says:

    OT I guess.
    Here is how one angle of the vote fraud will be carried out with mail-in ballots.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

    How to steam open envelopes and reseal them with a different ballot inside is easy.

    “You have a postman who is a rabid anti-Trump guy and he’s working in Bedminster or some Republican stronghold … He can take those [filled-out] ballots, and knowing 95% are going to a Republican, he can just throw those in the garbage.”

    In some cases, mail carriers were members of his “work crew,” and would sift ballots from the mail and hand them over to the operative.

    In 2017 more than 500 mail-in ballots in New York City never arrived to the Board of Elections for races that November — leaving hundreds disenfranchised. They eventually were discovered in April 2018. “For some undetermined reason, some baskets of mail that were bound to the New York City Board of Elections were put off to the side at the Brooklyn processing facility,” city elections boss Michael Ryan said at the time of discovery.

    Undetermined reason. Yaz.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @anon

    Our mantra as election workers is that every ballot, used or unused, must be strictly accounted for at all times. Voters can't take it out to their car, not even out to the hallway -- ballots can't leave the room until the entire receptacle is removed from the voting machine, locked up and driven straight to the board of elections.

    So as this con artist points out, simply mailing out thousands of ballots to where you think a voter might be is just insane. Or deliberately inviting fraud

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

  17. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    DARVO works on a lot of normies, though.

  18. Spielberg?

    I thought that was Chris Kyle.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Abolish_public_education

    Spielberg was originally going to be the director of "American Sniper," but he wanted a $120 million budget, but couldn't get it. So he gave up the project to Clint Eastwood, who was willing to do it for $60 million.

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Replies: @bruce county, @johnmark7

  19. “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”

    She should go to Orange County.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    She should go to Orange County.
     
    You mean the shrinking sectors thereof.


    I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.


    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/611OP57IohL._AC_UL1500_.jpg



    Does LA offer those in Persian and Armenian? Or Hebrew?

    https://m.facebook.com/PersiansForTrump/posts/2430989183590645




    https://rlv.zcache.com/make_persia_great_again_shah_of_iran_flag_trucker_hat-rb3f665ec8f8f4dbd8a9c52cdc4dcd8e3_eahwi_8byvr_704.jpg


    https://i.imgflip.com/2t4xvn.jpg

    https://cdn.powered-by-nitrosell.com/product_images/11/2547/722134672020.jpg

    Replies: @danand

  20. @Percy Gryce
    The most undercovered story of the last half decade:

    https://twitter.com/percy_gryce/status/1300162222694567938?s=20

    Replies: @Patrick in SC, @Coemgen

    Absolutely.

    In terms of now forgotten stories from the last century or so, I’d nominate the political terrorism of the 70s (bombings, bank robberies, Zebra killings) and, from the 50s, the attacks on Harry Truman and the Capital Building by Puerto Rican Nationalists.

  21. @Thomas
    @Thomas

    A big reason why this is relevant right now in the election is that this issue, the slander and demonization of Trump supporters, was literally the genesis of the Biden campaign and is core to Biden's case. His first announcement of his candidacy on April 25, 2019 was his first of many invocations of the Charlottesville "fine people" lie.

    If he and his campaign are forced onto the defensive on this issue, and are put into a choice of either abandoning and disavowing their central argument or else taking responsibility for the current violence, they'll be in a dilemma they likely won't be able to get out of. Biden isn't supported by enough of what there is of the Democratic base now without relying on the hatred of the left for Trump and his supporters. If he's forced to disavow that hatred, he probably loses. If he's forced to take responsibility for the chaos wracking the country right now, he also probably loses.

    Replies: @gent, @Dieter Kief

    Trump should embrace the “fine people” line and restate it. Only my supporters are “fine people”, yours are addicts, liars and terrorists.

  22. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    ‘… even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands…’

    ‘Might’?

    I wouldn’t consider putting on a ‘Make America Great Again’ cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Colin Wright


    I wouldn’t consider putting on a ‘Make America Great Again’ cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.
     
    My stepbrother is...kinda slow. He also has a very loud voice, and a tendency to be very outspoken in public (he's an enthusiastic Trump supporter). This works out for him, because he lives in Sioux Falls. But he's about to take a trip to the Bay Area, and I'm a little worried he's gonna get, you know...maybe killed. I told him to definitely not talk about politics while he's in the Bay Area, and he acted like he gets it. But I don't think he really does. It's not like we're super-close or anything (he's kind of obnoxious, really). But I still don't want something bad to happen to him. It's pretty amazing we've arrived at the point where having the wrong political views can make domestic travel dangerous in the USA...but here we are.

    Replies: @Anon

  23. @Abolish_public_education
    Spielberg?

    I thought that was Chris Kyle.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg was originally going to be the director of “American Sniper,” but he wanted a $120 million budget, but couldn’t get it. So he gave up the project to Clint Eastwood, who was willing to do it for $60 million.

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Spielberg is an excellent shot with a shotgun. Actor Shia LaBeouf once said about his shooting, “He’s an Olympic shot. The hand-eye co-ordination of that man is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. If he weren’t a great director, he could be one of our greatest snipers”.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter, @Twodees Partain

    , @johnmark7
    @Steve Sailer

    We are very close to the moment where every demonstration by Trumpers or people on the Right will be full of heavily armed men ready to return volleys of fire if anyone takes pot shots at them.

    Once the Rubicon is crossed, things and changes move fast.

  24. @AnotherDad
    Trump needs to repeatedly make this point:

    The Democrats, the left, progressives routinely physically attack people on "the right", attempt to deny them the right to speak. There is a clear continuing pattern of this from universities, to the Trump rallies in 2016, to Charlottesville, to BLM protests, to people simply defending property from looters (like Kenosha) people, to these attacks on Trump rallies now.

    The left/minoritarians/Democrats/BLM/Antifa are unwilling to allow conservatives to speak ... or even exist. They are totalitarian thugs.

    Trump needs to keep pointing this out again and again and again. Force the media/Democrats to react with their denials and nonsense. But get this reality into the consciousness of ordinary Americans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Ma Laoshi, @Buffalo Joe

    Addendum:

    While beating on this issue of Democrat/leftist thuggery and denying conservatives the right to speak, without which there can be no democracy …

    Trump should frame the election with a simple observation:

    There are two primary core functions of government:

    1) Protect the nation’s territory and people from invasion by foreigners, so that the nation is passed intact to our descendants, our posterity.

    2) Enforce, public order, the rule-of-law so that citizens can peacefully go about our business and hence build prosperity.

    And the Democrats are against doing both of these!

  25. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not being overly familiar with LA geography, if Woodland Hills is in fact composed of hills, how can it be part of the San Fernando Valley?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @t

    Ventura Boulevard runs at the south edge of the flatlands of the San Fernando Valley, on the right bank of the Los Angeles River, just before the land slopes up into the Hollywood Hills. So, the suburban neighborhood of Woodland Hills is roughly half on the flat land and half in the hills.

    Ventura Blvd. is parallel to the more famous Sunset Blvd. on the south side of the Hollywood Hills. The Hollywood Hills is a tilted bloc formation with a steep north side and a gentle south side, so Ventura mostly sticks to the flatlands rather than the precipitous north side of the hills, while Sunset wanders up more into the foothills, which makes for all those famous curves that lead to 6 figure cars crashing:

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, and speaking of crashes, it's worth noting that Woodland Hills is immediately adjacent to the aptly named Hidden Hills, and Calabasas, where Highway 101 crosses Las Virgenes Rd. Here the terrain changes appreciably for northbound traffic as the 101 leaves the San Fernando Valley, and heads for the hills.

    This is the immediate area where Ara Zobayan flew into thick fog on Jan. 26, 2020, got disoriented, and crashed his helicopter into a steep hillside above Las Virgenes Rd. killing all aboard, including Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and six other passengers.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  26. “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”

    There were almost five million of them in November 2016. She may have to drive out of town, though. Like, to Buck and Merle’s Bakersfield. That’s in Trump’s largest county, the only one of the top 17 he carried.

    Orange was of little use.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar

    Still hate this backwards--switched from tradition and openly fraudulent--color scheme.

    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  27. Steve, I don’t the demographic geography of LA that well would you mind telling me who lives in Woodland Hills?

    • Replies: @t
    @t

    I was able to look it up seems to be mostly (70%) upper middle class whites with the rest divided between Asians and Hispanics also with upper middle class incomes.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @t

    Woodland Hills is an upscale suburban part of Los Angeles with a low crime rate. It backs up against the Hollywood Hills where they turn into the substantial Santa Monica mountains, so it's a long way from South-Central.

    http://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/neighborhood/woodland-hills/

    It's 78% white, 7% Asian, 7% Hispanic, 3% black.

    The whites include a whole bunch of Persians of Jewish, Islamic, Bahai ethnicity. Probably a fair number of ex-Soviets too, although I'm less sure of that.

  28. @Steve Sailer
    @Abolish_public_education

    Spielberg was originally going to be the director of "American Sniper," but he wanted a $120 million budget, but couldn't get it. So he gave up the project to Clint Eastwood, who was willing to do it for $60 million.

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Replies: @bruce county, @johnmark7

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Spielberg is an excellent shot with a shotgun. Actor Shia LaBeouf once said about his shooting, “He’s an Olympic shot. The hand-eye co-ordination of that man is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. If he weren’t a great director, he could be one of our greatest snipers”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @bruce county

    Spielberg's dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting as a kid. Then in Hollywood, John Milius got Spielberg and Bob Zemeckis ("Back to the Future") into trap shooting.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @MEH 0910

    , @RadicalCenter
    @bruce county

    More like one of Israel's best snipers.

    , @Twodees Partain
    @bruce county

    Shia LaBeouf is an idiot. Trap shooters aren't automatically great rifle shots. Why anyone would know (or give a shit) what Shia has to say on any subject is a mystery to me. He's a libtard airhead who ruins any film in which he's cast.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  29. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not being overly familiar with LA geography, if Woodland Hills is in fact composed of hills, how can it be part of the San Fernando Valley?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @t

    In Chicago there are areas like Archer Heights that are not only flat but built on reclaimed swamp, it helped sell the houses a century ago.

  30. @t
    Steve, I don't the demographic geography of LA that well would you mind telling me who lives in Woodland Hills?

    Replies: @t, @Steve Sailer

    I was able to look it up seems to be mostly (70%) upper middle class whites with the rest divided between Asians and Hispanics also with upper middle class incomes.

  31. @Percy Gryce
    The most undercovered story of the last half decade:

    https://twitter.com/percy_gryce/status/1300162222694567938?s=20

    Replies: @Patrick in SC, @Coemgen

    I thought you were referring to Train Carrying GOP Lawmakers Hits Garbage Truck In Virginia. Probably just a coincidence, much like the catastrophic failure of water system supplying metropolitan Boston shortly after Republican Senator from Massachusetts, Scott Brown, voted against Obamacare was just a coincidence.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Coemgen


    just a coincidence.
     
    Just like the coincidence that Burundi's President died shortly after (correctly) declaring WuFlu as, "nonsense," and throwing the WHO out of the country, only to be replaced with a leader that immediately started playing ball:

    Coronavirus and Regime Change: Burundi’s Covid Coup

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/14/coronavirus-and-regime-change-burundis-covid-coup/

    All just one big coincidence...nothing to see here...
  32. @JohnnyWalker123

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”

     

    She should go to Orange County.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S-NFDRBBAY

    https://twitter.com/JulesCBK/status/847274477599694848

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    She should go to Orange County.

    You mean the shrinking sectors thereof.

    I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.

    Does LA offer those in Persian and Armenian? Or Hebrew?

    https://m.facebook.com/PersiansForTrump/posts/2430989183590645

    • Replies: @danand
    @Reg Cæsar


    “I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.“
     
    Reg Cæsar, that immigrant my have been smart to sell the hat:

    https://flic.kr/p/2jBTEW9

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    Winnetka resident David Delgado pleaded to one felony count of assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office. He is scheduled to be sentenced May 28 and faces four years in state prison.”

    Replies: @El Dato, @Achmed E. Newman, @Servant of Gla'aki

  33. @t
    Steve, I don't the demographic geography of LA that well would you mind telling me who lives in Woodland Hills?

    Replies: @t, @Steve Sailer

    Woodland Hills is an upscale suburban part of Los Angeles with a low crime rate. It backs up against the Hollywood Hills where they turn into the substantial Santa Monica mountains, so it’s a long way from South-Central.

    http://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/neighborhood/woodland-hills/

    It’s 78% white, 7% Asian, 7% Hispanic, 3% black.

    The whites include a whole bunch of Persians of Jewish, Islamic, Bahai ethnicity. Probably a fair number of ex-Soviets too, although I’m less sure of that.

  34. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Leftard Twatter has been shrieking that Kyle Rittenhouse hunted down and murdered people purely because of politics. With that lie bouncing around inside the echo chamber it is not a really huge stretch for someone to decide to go a little kinetic on a Bad Orange Man car caravan.

    It would be a really good service to the entire country if the Main Stream Media could cool down their own screaming and quit serving up pure hatred. But the MSM does not serve the entire country, so I guess that won't be happening any time soon, or at all. When the history is written, the evil role of the MSM in stoking the haters must be given a prominent place.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @bomag

    Is MSM even required? The deadwood’s ready to ignite in all coastal cities. Also, apparently, quite a few Mississippi-watershed locales.

    Button-clicky folks with whom I remain e-friends, previously hymned the noble mail-carriers, then switched on a dime to “Hunting!!11 Hunting!!111 REEEE” sort of two-minutes-isms. That is just a strange reaction to a Chicago-area skateboard-vs.-rifle skirmish, no? I suspect they can’t keep it straight, Dunbar style, whether they’re supposed to rage relatively more about Floyd, or Blake, or Rittenhouse’s harder-to-recollect victims, or whoever’s the Bum of the Month.

    Just 4-5 elections ago only hosts for Air America seemed to act like this (as scornful parody of RW talk radio) but I viddy this Dostoevsky energy from the “fair trade” “Volvo-driving” vegan set now too/

  35. @bruce county
    @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Spielberg is an excellent shot with a shotgun. Actor Shia LaBeouf once said about his shooting, “He’s an Olympic shot. The hand-eye co-ordination of that man is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. If he weren’t a great director, he could be one of our greatest snipers”.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter, @Twodees Partain

    Spielberg’s dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting as a kid. Then in Hollywood, John Milius got Spielberg and Bob Zemeckis (“Back to the Future”) into trap shooting.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer


    Spielberg’s dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting
     
    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns... I'd be willing to bet that BLM wouldn't make it up his driveway onto his front porch without meeting Mr. 5.56.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @bruce county

    , @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/1298773502707798017
    https://twitter.com/variety/status/1298506365653135365

  36. @anon
    OT I guess.
    Here is how one angle of the vote fraud will be carried out with mail-in ballots.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

    How to steam open envelopes and reseal them with a different ballot inside is easy.


    “You have a postman who is a rabid anti-Trump guy and he’s working in Bedminster or some Republican stronghold … He can take those [filled-out] ballots, and knowing 95% are going to a Republican, he can just throw those in the garbage.”
     

    In some cases, mail carriers were members of his “work crew,” and would sift ballots from the mail and hand them over to the operative.
     

    In 2017 more than 500 mail-in ballots in New York City never arrived to the Board of Elections for races that November — leaving hundreds disenfranchised. They eventually were discovered in April 2018. “For some undetermined reason, some baskets of mail that were bound to the New York City Board of Elections were put off to the side at the Brooklyn processing facility,” city elections boss Michael Ryan said at the time of discovery.
     
    Undetermined reason. Yaz.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Our mantra as election workers is that every ballot, used or unused, must be strictly accounted for at all times. Voters can’t take it out to their car, not even out to the hallway — ballots can’t leave the room until the entire receptacle is removed from the voting machine, locked up and driven straight to the board of elections.

    So as this con artist points out, simply mailing out thousands of ballots to where you think a voter might be is just insane. Or deliberately inviting fraud

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Known Fact


    Our mantra as election workers is that every ballot, used or unused, must be strictly accounted for at all times. Voters can’t take it out to their car, not even out to the hallway — ballots can’t leave the room until the entire receptacle is removed from the voting machine, locked up and driven straight to the board of elections.
     
    I've seen election workers like that...in all-white voting precincts.

    Where I used to live, the workers were all nice little old white ladies from the neighborhood. One year the entire crew was replaced with loud, angry negroes [sorry, redundant] from who knows where.

    They yelled all their commands at the good whites standing in line, none of whom would dare make a sound of course.

    Weird thing is, that's the same election that the precinct switched from Republican to Democrat. In fact the whole county switched that year, and never switched back. It'll never be investigated, that I can tell you.

  37. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote “It is better to be feared than loved,” but the Left doesn’t fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn’t happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On — riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Dr. X

    Look at this dude I bet his relatives fear not love the holidays.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Dr. X


    they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On
     
    Agreed. As you probably know, Hillary—the highest ranking Dem not currently running for office—has already gone on record saying "Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances".

    This was not off-the-cuff. This was a pre-arranged mass broadcast that they will win or they will fight.

    Unless it is Trump's, there won't be a peaceful concession.

    Prepare accordingly.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Dr. X

    I agree with your bleak assessment of violence following a Trump victory -- so much so, in fact, that I am getting my family out of her. I'd guess that we will be relatively safe now that moved from downtown, but I wouldn't bet my loved ones' safety on it.

    My wife and children will NOT be here in Los Angeles -- or any other big city -- for several months, starting before the election and, if Trump wins, continuing well past Inauguration Day.

    While I'm here in LA alone, I just hope that the disorder doesn't affect my ability to buy more ammo and have weed and pizza delivered (in that order). Yeah, better stock up on the ammo and the weed in advance of November, huh?

    , @Corvinus
    @Dr. X

    "What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election..."

    What is probably going to happen is that Trump, if he loses, will double down on his claim that the election was stolen, but if he wins, will pronounce that the election was not fraudulent.

    "and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America."

    I just love the smell of hyperbole.

    "If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On — riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365."

    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right...

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  38. “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”

    Oh, she’s met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, “I think Biden is worse than Trump”? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    • Replies: @Escher
    @PhysicistDave

    IMHO a fair amount of the hysterical reactions towards his supporters can be explained by the need for kids to be seen to be more loonie leftie than their friends, like was the case during the cultural revolution.
    The parallels with those times are still consistent.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @PhysicistDave

    How is your daughter doing, PD?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Ben tillman
    @PhysicistDave

    He’s hated because the media inject the hatred into their brains.

    By the way, I agree with you on the JFK and McGovern comments.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @PhysicistDave


    So, why is he so hated?
     
    A lot of it seems to revolve around Trump's manner of speaking, which is very brusque and terse compared to Barack "The Lightbringer" Soetero.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @PhysicistDave

    Great comment, and I too sometimes wonder why so many people hate him so much. I never liked the expression "Bush Derangement Syndrome" because there were many valid reasons to hate George W. Bush, and indeed I hate him to this day.

    But Trump? He hasn't gotten us into any new wars, has been great for the economy, is obviously trying to do what's best for America, and yet Trump Derangement Syndrome is everywhere. I suppose it's because he represents the public's repudiation of the progressives' religion, which they expected to be able to ram down all our throats.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @PhysicistDave

    Many of the people who hate Trump do so because they were told that "all the best people" hate Trump, their antipathy for the man(and us), more aesthetic posturing than carefully thought out moral conclusion.

    We Trump supporters, as you noted, are out there. We typically don't advertise our support for the President, but sometimes we do. I have got the sort of thrill an exhibitionist must get, when I divulge to a new acquaintance at a social gathering, (usually for no better reason than sheer badness), that I voted for the 46th President. The look of horror that usually passes across their faces is well worth the loss of any continued acquaintance. (Within every 60 year old man beats the heart of a 13 year old reprobate.)

    Replies: @Templar, @Jay Fink

    , @Anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    Why do so many people hate Trump?

    Money, upon which their livelihoods rest. Even without Trump, the present system has run through its resources. No leadership, close to its credit limit, US cannot support its own population, retail stores are closing because the middle class is vanishing (over 50% of US population saves nothing each month), US military dominance is vanishing and won't come back without a recapitalization that would push the US over its remaining credit limit, BIPOC (*) groups that want more of the political swag, cities that urgently need recapitalization, a reliance on Party street fighters right out of 1930s Germany-- . . . you get the drift.

    Things are so desperate that the whole US Establishment believes that only becoming a totalitarian government enforcing a command economy stands any chance of preserving the US Establishment. Even kids training for SJW jobs in college, even grade school kids whose parents are SJW workers in government bureaucrats, believe this. They believe that the only legitimate political stance is unity and adherence to the Establishment, which is a Marxist establishment because Marxism is both arbitrary and totalitarian -- explicit Marxism would give the US Establishment the power and the command economy the Establishment thinks will save them.

    And then comes Trump -- putting a stick in the spokes. Empowering a group that doesn't believe in totalitarian government or Marxism, who will delay the transition until it is too late to save the Establishment. Suddenly, everybody's SJW job is imperiled. The whole system is imperiled!

    Of course they hate Trump. They believe that he threatens their survival, that he is taking away their last chance. In fact, he does neither -- they are dying, will not survive in any case, have no last chance, and the Establishment sort of knows this but represses, even internally, its own knowledge of impending mortality. Tell members of the Establishment that the Establishment is dying and has no chance, and that you won't grant it arbitrary power, and you'll get the same hatred Trump gets.

    Hatred is evoked by threats to survival, and the Establishment believes totalitarian rule is its only hope of survival. It believes this even though it is falling because it took effective totalitarian rule back in the 1960s and used that rule to waste the entire US industrial plant, and waste its own legitimacy, on internal political fights (**). They think as drug addicts think, "If I could only get one more hit, my brain would fix itself and I would be OK again."

    https://youtu.be/osu-kKFTB9M?t=92



    *) BIPOC: Black, Indigenous, & People of Color. Note that listing is in order of intersectional priority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality).

    **) Seriously -- Even US intervention in other countries is almost always the sole result of internal US politics, often trivial internal US politics, and has almost nothing to do with the countries, the region, or US interests. Remember back when the US invaded Afghanistan? "Graveyard of Empires"? Or the Kosovo intervention? As for industrial intervention -- even more trivial. Remember the US giving China its entire technological base, even enough to make accurate ICBMs, so that the PRC would become a "responsible member" of the "community of nations"? Nobody thought further than that (originally) the China market would open, and then (once industry started moving to China) that this would "hurt conservatives".
    And instituting replacement level immigration to ensure that subsidies to the cities continued -- the end game, replacement of the Democrats too, was always going to be what now confronts the Establishment and everybody else as well.
    Trust government with totalitarian rule and you get government by vindictive incompetents, and that's if you're lucky and "murderous" isn't added to the list.

    , @Known Fact
    @PhysicistDave

    Why is Trump so hated? My theory in part is that before 2016, you have to go all the way back to 2004 to find a presidential election that liberals lost. So libs in their 20s now were only kids back then and didn't care, and thus 2016 was the first time they didn't get what they wanted -- in brutally surprising fashion. They're already spoiled and entitled and thus cannot abide this sea change from Obama to some mean old white guy who beat the First Female President.

    Add this to Trump being so blatantly misquoted right from the start about Mexicans, Muslims, neo-Nazis and pussy-grabbing

    , @Charlotte
    @PhysicistDave

    I think the hate comes from who Trump’s supporters are perceived to be: the deplorables of Hillary Clinton’s imagination, those left-behind whites clinging to their guns and religion. After Obama, we were never supposed to matter again. Pretty much everything had been going the way of the progressives, culture-wise. Our first black president was to be succeeded by our first woman president, who would usher in ever more brown immigrants, etc. And then Trump happened. And he was a joke, saying things no respectable establishment figure was supposed to mention, but somehow those deplorables just didn’t get it. And then they went and elected him President.

    TDS is the fury of people who really thought they’d won for all time, only to have their prize snatched away at the last minute.

    , @Clyde
    @PhysicistDave


    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.
     
    China too/ Trump is anti-China and too many of our elites have profitable schemes running with China. All the peasantry like buying cheap_Chinese stuff too. I am guilty as charged due to liking Harbor Freight. I will be going to my local Harbor Freight in a day or two.

    What a mad situation your daughter is in!

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @bruce county

    Spielberg's dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting as a kid. Then in Hollywood, John Milius got Spielberg and Bob Zemeckis ("Back to the Future") into trap shooting.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @MEH 0910

    Spielberg’s dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting

    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns… I’d be willing to bet that BLM wouldn’t make it up his driveway onto his front porch without meeting Mr. 5.56.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    I drove by LeBron James' estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Dr. X

    , @bruce county
    @Dr. X

    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns

    He may own one...Just because. The man is a pro trap and clay pigeon shooter.
    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
    The one in the photo above, I believe is a Boxall & Edmiston but could be a Famars. Purdeys is another bespoke builder.
    Spielberg spends a lot of time in England. It's unlikely he hangs out with his pals and puts holes in paper. Just saying.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Anonymousse

  40. @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer


    Spielberg’s dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting
     
    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns... I'd be willing to bet that BLM wouldn't make it up his driveway onto his front porch without meeting Mr. 5.56.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @bruce county

    I drove by LeBron James’ estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Steve Sailer

    Wonder why he didn’t nab the spray painter of that most unfortunate word. Guess even lebron’s Varangians believe in giving miscreants space to operate.


    Private security might be the biggest recipient of status spending in the United States. That Chris Rock top five movie sucked but it did have a good scene where Rosario Dawson pointed out that an unpleasant brief exchange with a pedestrian only occurred because of his conspicuous body man. Otherwise the heckler would have never noticed him.

    Likewise I would have walked ignorantly by Al Franken a couple years ago near Washington square if not for three hustling aides flanking him. He could have been spared my sardonically asking him if he still had a good blow dealer in the city.

    , @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer


    I drove by LeBron James’ estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.
     
    Probably an off-duty or retired cop making a pile of cash doing private security.

    That's the thing a lot of white conservatives don't get about the race war. There's no white solidarity. There seems to be an endless supply of tatted, ripped, shaven-headed, white ex-Special Forces dudes and cops who are willing to shoot as many of their fellow whites as the blacks, women and liberals who sign their paychecks tell them to shoot.

    Wasn't it Jay Gould who, when asked what he was going to do when the proletariat came after the capitalists, responded that he would "Hire half the proletariat to kill the other half"?
  41. Meanwhile, last night in Tehran, supporters of the Islamic Republic regime staged one of their customary “Death to America” rallies:

    Oh – sorry – my bad – that wasn’t Tehran. That was a BLM march in Oakland.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Mr. Anon

    Love it. Not the Democrats' usual lying, but actual truth in advertising. Good material for a Trump ad.

  42. @Achmed E. Newman

    A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …
     
    as? That's pretty unclear.

    The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

    “We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

     
    Who is that idiot, just some valley girl wanting to show off her bod to the guys on the helicopter?

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood.

    Yeah, Southerners shoot at the President all the time. I mean just last century the "Texans" got that one guy.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Hypnotoad666, @LeavingCAsoon, @Alden

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood

    You misspelled “the USA”

  43. @Steve Sailer
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Ventura Boulevard runs at the south edge of the flatlands of the San Fernando Valley, on the right bank of the Los Angeles River, just before the land slopes up into the Hollywood Hills. So, the suburban neighborhood of Woodland Hills is roughly half on the flat land and half in the hills.

    Ventura Blvd. is parallel to the more famous Sunset Blvd. on the south side of the Hollywood Hills. The Hollywood Hills is a tilted bloc formation with a steep north side and a gentle south side, so Ventura mostly sticks to the flatlands rather than the precipitous north side of the hills, while Sunset wanders up more into the foothills, which makes for all those famous curves that lead to 6 figure cars crashing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx9DQsu55Dg

    Replies: @Sparkon

    Yes, and speaking of crashes, it’s worth noting that Woodland Hills is immediately adjacent to the aptly named Hidden Hills, and Calabasas, where Highway 101 crosses Las Virgenes Rd. Here the terrain changes appreciably for northbound traffic as the 101 leaves the San Fernando Valley, and heads for the hills.

    This is the immediate area where Ara Zobayan flew into thick fog on Jan. 26, 2020, got disoriented, and crashed his helicopter into a steep hillside above Las Virgenes Rd. killing all aboard, including Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and six other passengers.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sparkon

    Yeah, the Santa Monica mountains are steep. They aren't particularly tall, and only have exposed granite in a few places, but they are precipitous.

  44. @Known Fact
    @anon

    Our mantra as election workers is that every ballot, used or unused, must be strictly accounted for at all times. Voters can't take it out to their car, not even out to the hallway -- ballots can't leave the room until the entire receptacle is removed from the voting machine, locked up and driven straight to the board of elections.

    So as this con artist points out, simply mailing out thousands of ballots to where you think a voter might be is just insane. Or deliberately inviting fraud

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Our mantra as election workers is that every ballot, used or unused, must be strictly accounted for at all times. Voters can’t take it out to their car, not even out to the hallway — ballots can’t leave the room until the entire receptacle is removed from the voting machine, locked up and driven straight to the board of elections.

    I’ve seen election workers like that…in all-white voting precincts.

    Where I used to live, the workers were all nice little old white ladies from the neighborhood. One year the entire crew was replaced with loud, angry negroes [sorry, redundant] from who knows where.

    They yelled all their commands at the good whites standing in line, none of whom would dare make a sound of course.

    Weird thing is, that’s the same election that the precinct switched from Republican to Democrat. In fact the whole county switched that year, and never switched back. It’ll never be investigated, that I can tell you.

  45. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    IMHO a fair amount of the hysterical reactions towards his supporters can be explained by the need for kids to be seen to be more loonie leftie than their friends, like was the case during the cultural revolution.
    The parallels with those times are still consistent.

  46. @Achmed E. Newman

    A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …
     
    as? That's pretty unclear.

    The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

    “We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

     
    Who is that idiot, just some valley girl wanting to show off her bod to the guys on the helicopter?

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood.

    Yeah, Southerners shoot at the President all the time. I mean just last century the "Texans" got that one guy.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Hypnotoad666, @LeavingCAsoon, @Alden

    “Omigod, is this seriously happening, I like totally don’t know anybody who is into Trump. I mean, Seriously? Aren’t they like into him in, like, Mississippi or one of those other racist countries. He is fer shur not cool though. I mean, this is like totally surreal or whatever, but the pool is nice.”

    Lucky the LA Times got that insightful quote from Valley Girl.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  47. @Known Fact
    "Something that might happen in the South but not here?" Five reporters on the byline and not one told the other four they are complete retards?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Never go full retard!

  48. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    How is your daughter doing, PD?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Jim Don Bob

    Jim Don Bob asked me:


    How is your daughter doing, PD?
     
    Thanks for asking.

    UCLA has finally backed down on their position that our daughter cannot present evidence showing she is completely innocent unless she shares personal medical records with the thug who assaulted and injured her.

    They are, however, sticking by their position that if a woman who is being assaulted and battered engages in any self-defense whatsoever, the victim is guilty of assault! Our daughter tried to hold the attacker's sleeves to stop the assault, and UCLA has explicitly claimed that this specific action makes our daughter guilty of assault.

    Their position is of course in violation of multiple state and federal laws, ranging from Title IX to the definition of assault in CA law going back to the 1870s (the whole thing was violent retaliation for my daughter reporting a Title IX violation against her). Under the law, a number of UCLA administrators should spend up to ten years in federal prison (18 USC 241).

    Our problem is how to get the legal system to take appropriate actions against UCLA: the LA City Attorney is of course in bed with the University, and federal prosecutors pick and choose which cases to take quite arbitrarily.

    Our daughter just wants it to all go away, but I think we are at the point that she needs to go to the national media.

    After all, for a university to brazenly take the open position that a woman who is being assaulted cannot defend herself by any means whatsoever, no matter how restrained, is even more shocking than the Harvey Weinstein revelations or the Chanel Miller scandal at Stanford.
  49. The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It’s heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they’ve got the media on their side.

    Don’t take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don’t make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There’s a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left’s America, it’s an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Bill P


    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.
     
    If you’re talking about “lots of Jews” then you don’t realize what you’re even trying to express an opinion on. The problem is the organized Jewish community, which is a living organism in its own right. Because of its size and the resources at its disposal, it continues to dominate us, who are disassociated and ultimately atomized by the policies that that community promotes.
     
     

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @Anonymousse
    @Bill P


    Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.
     
    Phew! What a relief. Now please tell them and all the channels, newspapers, and academic departments they own that. That nice Soros fellow, Nadler, Schiff, the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, and those NGO’s and big foundations too. Plus most of their voters and all the hollywood producers and writers.

    They seem to have been woefully misinformed

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Bill P


    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan).
     
    Anything specific they’ve posted that gets your goat?

    Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.
     
    Hmm. I wonder if Jews are a disproportionately high percentage of machers in the current treasonous, instigating US Lügenpresse and anti-White academia. Could be worth further study: E.g., perhaps 4chan posters have from time to time put up some helpful media org chart graphics.
    , @Pericles
    @Bill P


    this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.

     

    More like one of the dogs is fed, owned, massaged and driven around by Soros.
    , @VinnyVette
    @Bill P

    Sorry, but your "walk the straight and narrow" strategy has not worked for the right at all. War has been declared on the right, and the center, Democrat or Republican it matters not.
    We've all sat back patiently waiting for Trump, and Republicans to put a stop to the madness, and they clearly will not.
    BLM / ANTIFA, the media the Democrat party are at war with all of the silent majority, The Republicans are complacent, and allowing this to go on as some kind of ectoral strategy or more Trump 3d chess shennigans, and it's time for more Kyle Rittenhouse's to step up not less.
    People like you still think we can just vote our way out of this, and you are sadly mistaken.
    It's getting to the point were it's almost illegal to be white, or support even what used to be a reasonable, centrist position on anything. Your vote isn't going to save you when the mobs storm your neighbourhood.

  50. @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer


    Spielberg’s dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting
     
    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns... I'd be willing to bet that BLM wouldn't make it up his driveway onto his front porch without meeting Mr. 5.56.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @bruce county

    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns

    He may own one…Just because. The man is a pro trap and clay pigeon shooter.
    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
    The one in the photo above, I believe is a Boxall & Edmiston but could be a Famars. Purdeys is another bespoke builder.
    Spielberg spends a lot of time in England. It’s unlikely he hangs out with his pals and puts holes in paper. Just saying.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @bruce county

    Color me Blind. Its a Fabbri.

    , @Anonymousse
    @bruce county


    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
     
    You say big boy I say parvenu tryhard.

    One of the reason they feel such commonality with blacks is they both have similarly impeccable taste and go in for understatement and discretion.

    https://youtu.be/SGgOvu7-egI

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  51. @Anonymous
    What a shame the Deplorable killed last night died for Kushnerism.

    He thought he was a Trumpist fighting for Trumpism but Trumpism is a rhetorical pack of lies masking the Kushnerist agenda.

    The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables.

    DO NOT LET THE NEXT DEAD BODY BE YOU OR A LOVED ONE

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Tex, @SunBakedSuburb

    Take your concern-trolling and shove it up your ass.

    Trump has been a great disappointment when compared to what we hoped he would be. Yet, somehow, at the same time the difference between what we got from him and what we would have gotten from Hillary has proven to be much greater than we imagined at the time. When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Ben tillman


    When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.
     
    Is there a list of points supporting your thesis? - Let me try if you don't mind (and - correct me if you please)

    1 The way the President cuts through the fake news

    2 That he does not enforce military actions abroad

    3 That he decapitated Isis

    4 His trade deals with China

    5 The quite defensive instead of plainly destructive way in which he handles race (blacks)

    6 He rather fights Antif instead of fighting with Antifa (and BLM etc.)

    7 He is clearly opposing what Douglas Murray labeled The Madneess of the Crowds

    Replies: @Anonymous

  52. @Steve Sailer
    @Abolish_public_education

    Spielberg was originally going to be the director of "American Sniper," but he wanted a $120 million budget, but couldn't get it. So he gave up the project to Clint Eastwood, who was willing to do it for $60 million.

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Replies: @bruce county, @johnmark7

    We are very close to the moment where every demonstration by Trumpers or people on the Right will be full of heavily armed men ready to return volleys of fire if anyone takes pot shots at them.

    Once the Rubicon is crossed, things and changes move fast.

  53. @Sparkon
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, and speaking of crashes, it's worth noting that Woodland Hills is immediately adjacent to the aptly named Hidden Hills, and Calabasas, where Highway 101 crosses Las Virgenes Rd. Here the terrain changes appreciably for northbound traffic as the 101 leaves the San Fernando Valley, and heads for the hills.

    This is the immediate area where Ara Zobayan flew into thick fog on Jan. 26, 2020, got disoriented, and crashed his helicopter into a steep hillside above Las Virgenes Rd. killing all aboard, including Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and six other passengers.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, the Santa Monica mountains are steep. They aren’t particularly tall, and only have exposed granite in a few places, but they are precipitous.

  54. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    He’s hated because the media inject the hatred into their brains.

    By the way, I agree with you on the JFK and McGovern comments.

  55. @Bill P
    The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It's heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they've got the media on their side.

    Don't take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don't have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don't make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There's a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left's America, it's an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymousse, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Pericles, @VinnyVette

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.

    If you’re talking about “lots of Jews” then you don’t realize what you’re even trying to express an opinion on. The problem is the organized Jewish community, which is a living organism in its own right. Because of its size and the resources at its disposal, it continues to dominate us, who are disassociated and ultimately atomized by the policies that that community promotes.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Ben tillman

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    I grew up urban Catholic, and trust me we didn't need Jews to screw up our own communities. I am sick to death of Christians blaming their own shortcomings on Jews. I know Jews also like to blame their problems on outsiders, but that's their problem, not mine. At least, it wouldn't be my problem if my own people learned how to behave themselves.

    Now we've got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews' fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we're some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    Stop making excuses for white trash.

    Replies: @Anonymousse, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman

  56. @bruce county
    @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Spielberg is an excellent shot with a shotgun. Actor Shia LaBeouf once said about his shooting, “He’s an Olympic shot. The hand-eye co-ordination of that man is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. If he weren’t a great director, he could be one of our greatest snipers”.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter, @Twodees Partain

    More like one of Israel’s best snipers.

  57. @Ben tillman
    @Bill P


    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.
     
    If you’re talking about “lots of Jews” then you don’t realize what you’re even trying to express an opinion on. The problem is the organized Jewish community, which is a living organism in its own right. Because of its size and the resources at its disposal, it continues to dominate us, who are disassociated and ultimately atomized by the policies that that community promotes.
     
     

    Replies: @Bill P

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    I grew up urban Catholic, and trust me we didn’t need Jews to screw up our own communities. I am sick to death of Christians blaming their own shortcomings on Jews. I know Jews also like to blame their problems on outsiders, but that’s their problem, not mine. At least, it wouldn’t be my problem if my own people learned how to behave themselves.

    Now we’ve got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    Stop making excuses for white trash.

    • Troll: Art, Gordo
    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    @Bill P


    If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.
     
    1) If you ever trust me you’re a fool because look how awful I am. Fools deserve to be victimized!

    2) If you don’t trust me you’re a hateful antisemite... hateful antisemites deserve to be victimized!

    Astonished any of us have managed to fully internalize and accept that.

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.
     
    It is quite intriguing that even these critics won't stand up for William Jennings Bryan vs. the ACLU. They must be bought off as well, though for a lesser figure.
    , @ben tillman
    @Bill P


    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?
     
    What does that even mean?

    Now we’ve got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.
     
    That is just plain stupid. Everyone can be victimized. That fact obviously cannot have any implications for anything.
  58. What kind of gun is that? The magazine seems curved like it’s made for commie 7.62×39.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @International Jew


    What kind of gun is that?
     
    That gun is a favorite of terrorists who keep getting away with it.
    , @bruce county
    @International Jew

    Looks a lot like a modified AK-47.

    , @anon
    @International Jew

    What kind of gun is that?

    Modern Kalashnikov clone of some sort, semi-auto only.

    That finger is in the wrong place, by the way.

  59. SHOTS FIRED AT PRO-TRUMP CARAVAN IN LOS ANGELES, SHOOTER HAS STAND OFF WITH POLICE


  60. My dad lived in Woodland Hills from 1978- 1984. It seemed like a suburban wonderland to me. He lived near a street with a Licorice Pizza record store that I would walk to. If you happen to remember it (I know you were a big music fan and that was a great record store) was that Ventura Boulevard? There was a big mall on the street with a Broadway department store. I haven’t been back since.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jay Fink

    My aunt and uncle and cousins lived there in the mid to late 60s. My uncle was an IBM computer programmer who then worked first briefly for the Illinois Institute of Technology Research Institute, and then for successively smaller private profit making companie,s until he went on his own as a consultant. The first of these companies transferred him from Chicago to LA. They were among the few non-Jewish people in the neighborhood.

  61. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    So, why is he so hated?

    A lot of it seems to revolve around Trump’s manner of speaking, which is very brusque and terse compared to Barack “The Lightbringer” Soetero.

  62. @anon
    Leftard Twatter has been shrieking that Kyle Rittenhouse hunted down and murdered people purely because of politics. With that lie bouncing around inside the echo chamber it is not a really huge stretch for someone to decide to go a little kinetic on a Bad Orange Man car caravan.

    It would be a really good service to the entire country if the Main Stream Media could cool down their own screaming and quit serving up pure hatred. But the MSM does not serve the entire country, so I guess that won't be happening any time soon, or at all. When the history is written, the evil role of the MSM in stoking the haters must be given a prominent place.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @bomag

    I agree. The MSM is truly the enemy of the people. I don’t know how those who work in that industry can live with themselves.

    • Agree: bomag
  63. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    The only point you make with which I would quibble is that this started with Trump’s inauguration. As I’m sure you know, it started more than a year before that, including the Obama administration’s surveillance of his campaign.

  64. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a new revealed level of hate going on, and it doesn’t seem to be fading away. On the plus side, it’s going to create a voter landslide for Trump. On the minus side, these BLM folks are absolutely vile. They’re acting like the Bolsheviks In Germany before WWII.

    Check out the vid of BLM losers taunting police while they conduct a murder investigation over the dead body of the guy BLM executed yesterday. They are absolutely mental:

  65. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    Great comment, and I too sometimes wonder why so many people hate him so much. I never liked the expression “Bush Derangement Syndrome” because there were many valid reasons to hate George W. Bush, and indeed I hate him to this day.

    But Trump? He hasn’t gotten us into any new wars, has been great for the economy, is obviously trying to do what’s best for America, and yet Trump Derangement Syndrome is everywhere. I suppose it’s because he represents the public’s repudiation of the progressives’ religion, which they expected to be able to ram down all our throats.

    • Agree: Servant of Gla'aki
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Harry Baldwin

    I think Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions applies. People are locked into their paradigm, new info is either badly fitted or rejected outright and anyway review doesn't go much deeper than the presence of the latest CNN item in short term memory. Pretty sure this is being actively exploited.

    Anecdotal evidence regarding interrogation of family members:

    "CHAZ" "People need to have fun from time to time"
    "Trump" "Have you heard his hateful speech on CNN. He talks so badly. Horrible. I HATE him."
    "Kamala" "It's about time a woman of color accedes to the levers of power."
    "Biden" "He's so grandfartherly. Stop pretending he's too old."
    "Biden a transparent ploy to get Kamala to the control board" "How can you even THINK such a thing"
    "Kamala is dangerous and control freak lacking any principles" "She's a woman of color!"
    "So what about Obama" "He should come back, blacks had a chance with that guy"
    "Recent police encounter X" "Now the poor black dude is dead, leaving Y children behind"
    "Rittenhouse" "White person shooting blacks at BLM protest"
    "A Kersey list" "I can't read these things"
    "Jews" "Leave those people alone"
    "Now, about that Holocaust..." "REEEEEEEEE"

  66. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    “Don’t make me be a bad guy!”

  67. @Bill P
    The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It's heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they've got the media on their side.

    Don't take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don't have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don't make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There's a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left's America, it's an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymousse, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Pericles, @VinnyVette

    Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.

    Phew! What a relief. Now please tell them and all the channels, newspapers, and academic departments they own that. That nice Soros fellow, Nadler, Schiff, the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, and those NGO’s and big foundations too. Plus most of their voters and all the hollywood producers and writers.

    They seem to have been woefully misinformed

  68. @bruce county
    @Dr. X

    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns

    He may own one...Just because. The man is a pro trap and clay pigeon shooter.
    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
    The one in the photo above, I believe is a Boxall & Edmiston but could be a Famars. Purdeys is another bespoke builder.
    Spielberg spends a lot of time in England. It's unlikely he hangs out with his pals and puts holes in paper. Just saying.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Anonymousse

    Color me Blind. Its a Fabbri.

  69. @Bill P
    @Ben tillman

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    I grew up urban Catholic, and trust me we didn't need Jews to screw up our own communities. I am sick to death of Christians blaming their own shortcomings on Jews. I know Jews also like to blame their problems on outsiders, but that's their problem, not mine. At least, it wouldn't be my problem if my own people learned how to behave themselves.

    Now we've got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews' fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we're some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    Stop making excuses for white trash.

    Replies: @Anonymousse, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman

    If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    1) If you ever trust me you’re a fool because look how awful I am. Fools deserve to be victimized!

    2) If you don’t trust me you’re a hateful antisemite… hateful antisemites deserve to be victimized!

    Astonished any of us have managed to fully internalize and accept that.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Anonymousse

    Neither argument would work on a Christian. On an irreligious people, yes, it would work. Whose fault is it that so many Americans have rejected their faith? Isn't it their own?

  70. @bruce county
    @Dr. X

    I wonder how many AR-15s he owns

    He may own one...Just because. The man is a pro trap and clay pigeon shooter.
    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
    The one in the photo above, I believe is a Boxall & Edmiston but could be a Famars. Purdeys is another bespoke builder.
    Spielberg spends a lot of time in England. It's unlikely he hangs out with his pals and puts holes in paper. Just saying.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Anonymousse

    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.

    You say big boy I say parvenu tryhard.

    One of the reason they feel such commonality with blacks is they both have similarly impeccable taste and go in for understatement and discretion.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymousse

    Spielberg's love of fine shotguns is an idiosyncratic taste for his class. He only shows off his shotgun collection to close friends. The only one to talk about it to the press was the unreliable Shia Labeouf. Charlton Heston would allude to it but, I don't believe he mentioned Spielberg by name. In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @David In TN

  71. Jorge Rodriguez, deputy chief of the LAPD Valley bureau, said the department obtained a photo of man with a rifle on the balcony of an apartment unit. It’s unclear what kind of rifle he was holding. …

    It was a good & progressive rifle, not a nasty, fascist rifle with all those verboetn bits sticking out of it.

  72. By ALEX WIGGLESWORTH, FRANCINE ORR , RICHARD WINTON, ANGEL JENNINGS, MATTHEW ORMSETH

    How many morons does it take to write one news story?

    Five, apparently.

  73. @Bill P
    The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It's heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they've got the media on their side.

    Don't take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don't have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don't make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There's a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left's America, it's an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymousse, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Pericles, @VinnyVette

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan).

    Anything specific they’ve posted that gets your goat?

    Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.

    Hmm. I wonder if Jews are a disproportionately high percentage of machers in the current treasonous, instigating US Lügenpresse and anti-White academia. Could be worth further study: E.g., perhaps 4chan posters have from time to time put up some helpful media org chart graphics.

  74. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    Many of the people who hate Trump do so because they were told that “all the best people” hate Trump, their antipathy for the man(and us), more aesthetic posturing than carefully thought out moral conclusion.

    We Trump supporters, as you noted, are out there. We typically don’t advertise our support for the President, but sometimes we do. I have got the sort of thrill an exhibitionist must get, when I divulge to a new acquaintance at a social gathering, (usually for no better reason than sheer badness), that I voted for the 46th President. The look of horror that usually passes across their faces is well worth the loss of any continued acquaintance. (Within every 60 year old man beats the heart of a 13 year old reprobate.)

    • Replies: @Templar
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    In 2016 Trump got 31% of the total votes in California.
    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki, @RadicalCenter

    , @Jay Fink
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.

    He did this before the 2016 election as well. He travels the country and when he came to Washington State we hung out in Seattle's extremely liberal Capital Hill district. He was a total novelty and constantly got stopped by people. The only negative reaction was at pizza parlor/bar with a sign in front that said "Safe Zone". A group of young men got behind him and pretended they were hitting him. They were also flipping him off behind his back but were (like a lot of people in Seattle) too passive to say anything directly to him. Soon I see security. Oh no they are going to kick out my friend for wearing a Trump shirt I thought. Nope to my surprise he kicked out the group of young men. He told them."This is a hate free zone, you can't stay in here when you behave like that". I was shocked!

    Knowing the great experiences my friend has daily I think more Trump supporters should be bold and advertise their support. I suppose there is risk but there are also fulfilling interactions that come your way.

    Replies: @Bernard, @Hibernian

  75. @Mr. Anon
    Meanwhile, last night in Tehran, supporters of the Islamic Republic regime staged one of their customary "Death to America" rallies:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zTZ1SA10Ks

    Oh - sorry - my bad - that wasn't Tehran. That was a BLM march in Oakland.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Love it. Not the Democrats’ usual lying, but actual truth in advertising. Good material for a Trump ad.

  76. @International Jew
    What kind of gun is that? The magazine seems curved like it's made for commie 7.62×39.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @bruce county, @anon

    What kind of gun is that?

    That gun is a favorite of terrorists who keep getting away with it.

  77. @International Jew
    What kind of gun is that? The magazine seems curved like it's made for commie 7.62×39.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @bruce county, @anon

    Looks a lot like a modified AK-47.

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @bruce county

    Spielberg's dad, who recently died at about age 98, introduced him to rifle shooting as a kid. Then in Hollywood, John Milius got Spielberg and Bob Zemeckis ("Back to the Future") into trap shooting.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @MEH 0910

  79. @Anonymousse
    @bruce county


    His shotguns are bespoke. Most costing well 40k each. Big boy toys.
     
    You say big boy I say parvenu tryhard.

    One of the reason they feel such commonality with blacks is they both have similarly impeccable taste and go in for understatement and discretion.

    https://youtu.be/SGgOvu7-egI

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg’s love of fine shotguns is an idiosyncratic taste for his class. He only shows off his shotgun collection to close friends. The only one to talk about it to the press was the unreliable Shia Labeouf. Charlton Heston would allude to it but, I don’t believe he mentioned Spielberg by name. In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    Salon:


    Vince Vaughn has company: 10 unexpectedly pro-gun celebrities

    KALI HOLLOWAY
    JUNE 5, 2015

    This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

    ******
    3. Steven Spielberg. This one’s a bit of a doozy, since for many conservative types, Spielberg's name is synonomous with “Hollywood liberal." But a piece titled "Hollywood Liberal Gun Nuts" by Steve Sailer could have some ammosexuals reconsidering their dartboard choices. Sailer points out that Spielberg isn’t just a gun owner, he’s a man in possession of an arsenal that would make Ted Nugent proud. Quoting from Joseph McBride’s 1997 biography of Spielberg, Sailer discusses Spielberg’s love of skeet shooting. In the 1970s, Spielberg often took recreational shots with his buddy John Milius, screenwriter of Apocalypse Now and a man who in a 1975 interview with Daily Variety stated, “I just absolutely hate liberals and people who are civilized.”

    “Milius...introduced Spielberg to the sport of skeet shooting, a male-bonding ritual for Milius and his fellow Hollywood gun enthusiasts...Spielberg, who had learned to shoot from his father while growing up in Arizona, still visits the Oak Tree Gun Club. ‘He’s a darn good shot,’ says club member [and late actor] Robert Stack, himself a world-class target shooter. ‘He has terrific reactions. Clay target shooting is a very subtle, highly sophisticated sport; it takes a lot of nerve. He shot some very good scores.’

    Sailer also points to a 2008 interview with actor-cum-flesh-and-blood Internet-meme Shia LaBeouf, in which the actor spoke glowingly of Spielberg’s vast stockade of weaponry (observed when the director invited LaBeouf over for a skeet shooting session). "He has the most ridiculous collection," LaBeouf told GQ Magazine. "He's got a gun for every movie he's made. He buys old Perazzi guns, Italian—beautiful, beautiful guns—and gets them engraved. It takes like a year. He's got the Jaws gun; he's got E.T. He let me shoot with the Jurassic Park gun. He just got his Saving Private Ryan back from the engraver's.”

    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    , @David In TN
    @Steve Sailer

    "In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume."

    There is director whom I've assumed might fit this category. He does films of the action-explosion genre. Here's a hint: He testified for the prosecution at a Los Angeles murder trial a dozen years or so ago.

    When asked his profession, he answered, "I am a film director."

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    She should go to Orange County.
     
    You mean the shrinking sectors thereof.


    I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.


    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/611OP57IohL._AC_UL1500_.jpg



    Does LA offer those in Persian and Armenian? Or Hebrew?

    https://m.facebook.com/PersiansForTrump/posts/2430989183590645




    https://rlv.zcache.com/make_persia_great_again_shah_of_iran_flag_trucker_hat-rb3f665ec8f8f4dbd8a9c52cdc4dcd8e3_eahwi_8byvr_704.jpg


    https://i.imgflip.com/2t4xvn.jpg

    https://cdn.powered-by-nitrosell.com/product_images/11/2547/722134672020.jpg

    Replies: @danand

    “I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.“

    Reg Cæsar, that immigrant my have been smart to sell the hat:

    2735EF67-A96B-450D-8B36-63CC7B8BD355

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    Winnetka resident David Delgado pleaded to one felony count of assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office. He is scheduled to be sentenced May 28 and faces four years in state prison.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @danand

    The confusion about whether the attack was performed because the attacker disagreed with the message or whether the attacker was incensed at the suggestion that Trump is a Russian asset is real!!

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @danand

    How did the attacker know WTF the hat said? If it was that he was a Russian, I say deport the both of them!

    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @danand


    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.
     
    I still think it's weird that people choose to wear hats when they're indoors.
  81. @Harry Baldwin
    @PhysicistDave

    Great comment, and I too sometimes wonder why so many people hate him so much. I never liked the expression "Bush Derangement Syndrome" because there were many valid reasons to hate George W. Bush, and indeed I hate him to this day.

    But Trump? He hasn't gotten us into any new wars, has been great for the economy, is obviously trying to do what's best for America, and yet Trump Derangement Syndrome is everywhere. I suppose it's because he represents the public's repudiation of the progressives' religion, which they expected to be able to ram down all our throats.

    Replies: @El Dato

    I think Kuhn’s Structure of Scientific Revolutions applies. People are locked into their paradigm, new info is either badly fitted or rejected outright and anyway review doesn’t go much deeper than the presence of the latest CNN item in short term memory. Pretty sure this is being actively exploited.

    Anecdotal evidence regarding interrogation of family members:

    “CHAZ” “People need to have fun from time to time”
    “Trump” “Have you heard his hateful speech on CNN. He talks so badly. Horrible. I HATE him.”
    “Kamala” “It’s about time a woman of color accedes to the levers of power.”
    “Biden” “He’s so grandfartherly. Stop pretending he’s too old.”
    “Biden a transparent ploy to get Kamala to the control board” “How can you even THINK such a thing”
    “Kamala is dangerous and control freak lacking any principles” “She’s a woman of color!”
    “So what about Obama” “He should come back, blacks had a chance with that guy”
    “Recent police encounter X” “Now the poor black dude is dead, leaving Y children behind”
    “Rittenhouse” “White person shooting blacks at BLM protest”
    “A Kersey list” “I can’t read these things”
    “Jews” “Leave those people alone”
    “Now, about that Holocaust…” “REEEEEEEEE”

  82. @Dr. X
    @Thomas


    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.
     
    Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote "It is better to be feared than loved," but the Left doesn't fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn't happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it's Game On -- riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Almost Missouri, @RadicalCenter, @Corvinus

    Look at this dude I bet his relatives fear not love the holidays.

  83. @danand
    @Reg Cæsar


    “I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.“
     
    Reg Cæsar, that immigrant my have been smart to sell the hat:

    https://flic.kr/p/2jBTEW9

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    Winnetka resident David Delgado pleaded to one felony count of assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office. He is scheduled to be sentenced May 28 and faces four years in state prison.”

    Replies: @El Dato, @Achmed E. Newman, @Servant of Gla'aki

    The confusion about whether the attack was performed because the attacker disagreed with the message or whether the attacker was incensed at the suggestion that Trump is a Russian asset is real!!

  84. Steve Sailer says: • Website
    August 31, 2020 at 1:40 am GMT • 100 Words ⇑

    Woodland Hills is an upscale suburban part of Los Angeles with a low crime rate. It backs up against the Hollywood Hills where they turn into the substantial Santa Monica mountains, so it’s a long way from South-Central.

    Woodland Hills (which is an area within the city of Los Angeles, not a separate city) is on the south-western most part of the city. It borders Calabasas, which is a separate city, but most importantly has it’s own school district, not LAUSD. Though Woodland Hills is relatively upscale, Calabasas has 20-30% premium for similar properties because of the schools. Single family homes start at $1 million.

    Woodland Hills is also the hottest location in the city during the summer months.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bernard

    Woodland Hills is, by L.A. standards, hot in summer and cold in winter. Some of Calabasas is, I believe, over the crest and down toward the ocean so the climate is perhaps a little milder.

    But being in the Las Virgenes school district is the big deal for Calabasas, after LAUSD was devastated by forced racial school busing in the late 1970s. Kamala Harris's husband Doug Emhoff's family moved to Agoura, west of Calabasas, in 1981.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Bernard

    We've been in SoCal only about a decade and continue to learn from your columns. Minor typo correction: Woodland Hills is the NORTH-west part of the City of LA.

  85. @Ben tillman
    @Anonymous

    Take your concern-trolling and shove it up your ass.

    Trump has been a great disappointment when compared to what we hoped he would be. Yet, somehow, at the same time the difference between what we got from him and what we would have gotten from Hillary has proven to be much greater than we imagined at the time. When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.

    Is there a list of points supporting your thesis? – Let me try if you don’t mind (and – correct me if you please)

    1 The way the President cuts through the fake news

    2 That he does not enforce military actions abroad

    3 That he decapitated Isis

    4 His trade deals with China

    5 The quite defensive instead of plainly destructive way in which he handles race (blacks)

    6 He rather fights Antif instead of fighting with Antifa (and BLM etc.)

    7 He is clearly opposing what Douglas Murray labeled The Madneess of the Crowds

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dieter Kief

    Dieter
    Additional item for your list:

    * Has reduced blue-collar immigration to 10% of its flow rate when Trump was elected.
    * Has issued an executive order that to reduce white collar (H1B) immigration flow rate, which has been temporarily nullified by a list of "exceptions" to Trump's order that enables almost full flow rate. If re-elected, it is plausible that Trump will eliminate the list of "exceptions".

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  86. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    I drove by LeBron James' estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Dr. X

    Wonder why he didn’t nab the spray painter of that most unfortunate word. Guess even lebron’s Varangians believe in giving miscreants space to operate.

    Private security might be the biggest recipient of status spending in the United States. That Chris Rock top five movie sucked but it did have a good scene where Rosario Dawson pointed out that an unpleasant brief exchange with a pedestrian only occurred because of his conspicuous body man. Otherwise the heckler would have never noticed him.

    Likewise I would have walked ignorantly by Al Franken a couple years ago near Washington square if not for three hustling aides flanking him. He could have been spared my sardonically asking him if he still had a good blow dealer in the city.

  87. @Thomas
    @Thomas

    A big reason why this is relevant right now in the election is that this issue, the slander and demonization of Trump supporters, was literally the genesis of the Biden campaign and is core to Biden's case. His first announcement of his candidacy on April 25, 2019 was his first of many invocations of the Charlottesville "fine people" lie.

    If he and his campaign are forced onto the defensive on this issue, and are put into a choice of either abandoning and disavowing their central argument or else taking responsibility for the current violence, they'll be in a dilemma they likely won't be able to get out of. Biden isn't supported by enough of what there is of the Democratic base now without relying on the hatred of the left for Trump and his supporters. If he's forced to disavow that hatred, he probably loses. If he's forced to take responsibility for the chaos wracking the country right now, he also probably loses.

    Replies: @gent, @Dieter Kief

    Joe Biden made two major points at his DNC speech which were both on the wrong side of social reality, to put it mildly – his Charlotteville point and his George Floyd point.

    (Now more than 50% of the US citizens think, Joe Biden has mental issues (= is demented to a degree). – If you look into this constellation with a rather Faustian look, you end up saying the democrats made a pact with the devil, which allows them the most absurd lies, since they can always back off and say: It was not us who said this, but a mentally ill old man.

    Or this dementia story gets told this way: Yep, all this might not be 100% correct, but what do you want to do – attack an obviously mentally handicapped old man with his heart in the right place – you’re splitting hair here – you clearly must be a coldhearted Trump supporter – if not a Nazi!

  88. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymousse

    Spielberg's love of fine shotguns is an idiosyncratic taste for his class. He only shows off his shotgun collection to close friends. The only one to talk about it to the press was the unreliable Shia Labeouf. Charlton Heston would allude to it but, I don't believe he mentioned Spielberg by name. In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @David In TN

    Salon:

    Vince Vaughn has company: 10 unexpectedly pro-gun celebrities

    KALI HOLLOWAY
    JUNE 5, 2015

    This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

    ******
    3. Steven Spielberg. This one’s a bit of a doozy, since for many conservative types, Spielberg’s name is synonomous with “Hollywood liberal.” But a piece titled “Hollywood Liberal Gun Nuts” by Steve Sailer could have some ammosexuals reconsidering their dartboard choices. Sailer points out that Spielberg isn’t just a gun owner, he’s a man in possession of an arsenal that would make Ted Nugent proud. Quoting from Joseph McBride’s 1997 biography of Spielberg, Sailer discusses Spielberg’s love of skeet shooting. In the 1970s, Spielberg often took recreational shots with his buddy John Milius, screenwriter of Apocalypse Now and a man who in a 1975 interview with Daily Variety stated, “I just absolutely hate liberals and people who are civilized.”

    “Milius…introduced Spielberg to the sport of skeet shooting, a male-bonding ritual for Milius and his fellow Hollywood gun enthusiasts…Spielberg, who had learned to shoot from his father while growing up in Arizona, still visits the Oak Tree Gun Club. ‘He’s a darn good shot,’ says club member [and late actor] Robert Stack, himself a world-class target shooter. ‘He has terrific reactions. Clay target shooting is a very subtle, highly sophisticated sport; it takes a lot of nerve. He shot some very good scores.’

    Sailer also points to a 2008 interview with actor-cum-flesh-and-blood Internet-meme Shia LaBeouf, in which the actor spoke glowingly of Spielberg’s vast stockade of weaponry (observed when the director invited LaBeouf over for a skeet shooting session). “He has the most ridiculous collection,” LaBeouf told GQ Magazine. “He’s got a gun for every movie he’s made. He buys old Perazzi guns, Italian—beautiful, beautiful guns—and gets them engraved. It takes like a year. He’s got the Jaws gun; he’s got E.T. He let me shoot with the Jurassic Park gun. He just got his Saving Private Ryan back from the engraver’s.”

    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @MEH 0910


    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.
     
    Typical idiotic leftwing media reporting.
    , @Anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    I remember a big controversy many years ago about him CGI-removing the guns from ET in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings.

  89. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @PhysicistDave

    Many of the people who hate Trump do so because they were told that "all the best people" hate Trump, their antipathy for the man(and us), more aesthetic posturing than carefully thought out moral conclusion.

    We Trump supporters, as you noted, are out there. We typically don't advertise our support for the President, but sometimes we do. I have got the sort of thrill an exhibitionist must get, when I divulge to a new acquaintance at a social gathering, (usually for no better reason than sheer badness), that I voted for the 46th President. The look of horror that usually passes across their faces is well worth the loss of any continued acquaintance. (Within every 60 year old man beats the heart of a 13 year old reprobate.)

    Replies: @Templar, @Jay Fink

    In 2016 Trump got 31% of the total votes in California.
    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Templar


    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.
     
    Not quite. Whites may make up 36 percent of the population of California, but almost certainly cast well over 50 percent of all the ballots (this is a pattern seen in every state, for decades). But likely Trump did obtain a clear majority of White Californian votes.
    , @RadicalCenter
    @Templar

    True, whites are only 36% of Cali's total population, but last year (2019) we were 42% of California adults age 18 and over. When it comes to likely voters, 58% were white.

    https://www.ppic.org/publication/race-and-voting-in-california/

    https://www.ppic.org/publication/california-voter-and-party-profiles/

    If 58% of actual voters were white, then Trump likely received less than 50% of the white vote in California. Just half of the white vote would account for 29% of the paltry 31% that he received, not leaving enough room for Asian and Latino Trump supporters.

    On a related note, the white population of California is older than the nonwhite population. Even before the plandemic, California politics and culture were already trending more heavily Democrat ... and whatever the nonwhite dem voters say they believe in, Dem in our context means in law and practice anti traditional family, anti white, welfarist, anti self defense and gun rights, pro homosexual and mental illness quote transgenderism unquote, pro lavish government employee benefits and pensions, and pro both legal and illegal immigration.

    Pre-plandemic, whites were already steadily declining as a percentage of the Cali population and electorate because of our much higher median age and to a lesser extent because of white people moving (especially retiring) out of state.

    Now we may see an increased, disproportionately white exodus out of big cities, and generally out of California. The Democrat-ruled cities' refusal to protect innocent people and businesses here from BLM and Antifa violence, looting, and intimidation are the main impetus, and understandably so.

    In other words, the white share of California's total population, adult population, registered voters, and likely voters will all decline faster in the next couple decades. I can see EuropeanAmericans constituting only twenty percent of the State's population and twentyfive percent of registered voters in 2040, not so long now.

  90. @Bernard

    Steve Sailer says: • Website
    August 31, 2020 at 1:40 am GMT • 100 Words ⇑
    @t
    Woodland Hills is an upscale suburban part of Los Angeles with a low crime rate. It backs up against the Hollywood Hills where they turn into the substantial Santa Monica mountains, so it’s a long way from South-Central.
     
    Woodland Hills (which is an area within the city of Los Angeles, not a separate city) is on the south-western most part of the city. It borders Calabasas, which is a separate city, but most importantly has it’s own school district, not LAUSD. Though Woodland Hills is relatively upscale, Calabasas has 20-30% premium for similar properties because of the schools. Single family homes start at $1 million.

    Woodland Hills is also the hottest location in the city during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter

    Woodland Hills is, by L.A. standards, hot in summer and cold in winter. Some of Calabasas is, I believe, over the crest and down toward the ocean so the climate is perhaps a little milder.

    But being in the Las Virgenes school district is the big deal for Calabasas, after LAUSD was devastated by forced racial school busing in the late 1970s. Kamala Harris’s husband Doug Emhoff’s family moved to Agoura, west of Calabasas, in 1981.

  91. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @PhysicistDave

    Many of the people who hate Trump do so because they were told that "all the best people" hate Trump, their antipathy for the man(and us), more aesthetic posturing than carefully thought out moral conclusion.

    We Trump supporters, as you noted, are out there. We typically don't advertise our support for the President, but sometimes we do. I have got the sort of thrill an exhibitionist must get, when I divulge to a new acquaintance at a social gathering, (usually for no better reason than sheer badness), that I voted for the 46th President. The look of horror that usually passes across their faces is well worth the loss of any continued acquaintance. (Within every 60 year old man beats the heart of a 13 year old reprobate.)

    Replies: @Templar, @Jay Fink

    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.

    He did this before the 2016 election as well. He travels the country and when he came to Washington State we hung out in Seattle’s extremely liberal Capital Hill district. He was a total novelty and constantly got stopped by people. The only negative reaction was at pizza parlor/bar with a sign in front that said “Safe Zone”. A group of young men got behind him and pretended they were hitting him. They were also flipping him off behind his back but were (like a lot of people in Seattle) too passive to say anything directly to him. Soon I see security. Oh no they are going to kick out my friend for wearing a Trump shirt I thought. Nope to my surprise he kicked out the group of young men. He told them.”This is a hate free zone, you can’t stay in here when you behave like that”. I was shocked!

    Knowing the great experiences my friend has daily I think more Trump supporters should be bold and advertise their support. I suppose there is risk but there are also fulfilling interactions that come your way.

    • Replies: @Bernard
    @Jay Fink


    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.
     
    Is he trained in martial arts?
    , @Hibernian
    @Jay Fink

    I've travelled frequently to Seattle to see my Mom, 2009 to last September, and it didn't seem to be all that crazy, though the people obviously have an entitled attitude. Not all that long ago, statewide, a liberal Governor won by a narrow margin over Dino Rossi, who IMHO deserves the title conservative, although he's not the most conservative of conservatives. That said, there were the WTO riots, which were before I began going there (except for a wedding in'97.) On my first post-Covid visit to Mom, or ever afterwards, I will not go downtown, or anywhere very near downtown. (Previously I've gone there almost every trip with no real problems, only maniac drivers on I-5.)

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  92. @Jay Fink
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.

    He did this before the 2016 election as well. He travels the country and when he came to Washington State we hung out in Seattle's extremely liberal Capital Hill district. He was a total novelty and constantly got stopped by people. The only negative reaction was at pizza parlor/bar with a sign in front that said "Safe Zone". A group of young men got behind him and pretended they were hitting him. They were also flipping him off behind his back but were (like a lot of people in Seattle) too passive to say anything directly to him. Soon I see security. Oh no they are going to kick out my friend for wearing a Trump shirt I thought. Nope to my surprise he kicked out the group of young men. He told them."This is a hate free zone, you can't stay in here when you behave like that". I was shocked!

    Knowing the great experiences my friend has daily I think more Trump supporters should be bold and advertise their support. I suppose there is risk but there are also fulfilling interactions that come your way.

    Replies: @Bernard, @Hibernian

    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.

    Is he trained in martial arts?

  93. @Bill P
    The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It's heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they've got the media on their side.

    Don't take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don't have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don't make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There's a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left's America, it's an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymousse, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Pericles, @VinnyVette

    this time they don’t have a dog in the fight.

    More like one of the dogs is fed, owned, massaged and driven around by Soros.

  94. @Achmed E. Newman

    A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …
     
    as? That's pretty unclear.

    The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

    “We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

     
    Who is that idiot, just some valley girl wanting to show off her bod to the guys on the helicopter?

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood.

    Yeah, Southerners shoot at the President all the time. I mean just last century the "Texans" got that one guy.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Hypnotoad666, @LeavingCAsoon, @Alden

    My former office is two block down the street. Ventura blvd. The Hills are South of Ventura Blvd, and line the South coridor of the SFV, I sold my home in March now out of the State. The SFV remainder of Woodland Hills, in the “Valley Basin”. I evacuated, fled Los Angeles, weeks ago. Was there last Tuesday to clear out the rest of my office items. I’m glad there was a Trump presence, as most I knew were silent , in fear of being beat, or homes, cars vandalized or home burned down. The L.A. snot noses can be very violent, and go Trump Syndrome in seconds. Glad to be out of that cesspool of Marxists, Libtards.

  95. Are shotguns really useful on tyres at much of a distance?

  96. @Thomas
    The line Democrats are taking now that their wind-up toys are finally getting away from them is that Trump has "incited" all of this and "fanned the flames."

    Trump's campaign, supporters, Republicans, and friendly media need to respond by putting this into the context of the last 3 years of escalating incitement and violence by the left.

    Literally starting the day Trump was inaugurated, they labeled everyone they disagreed with as "Nazis." Then they justified at considerable length how it was ok to punch "Nazis."

    They launched the first attempted mass assassination of sitting members of Congress since the 1970s with the attack on the Congressional baseball game.

    They've accosted, threatened, and attacked Republican officeholders and media personalities in public more generally, and have been encouraged to do so by Democratic officeholders like Maxine Waters.

    They've essentially made it impossible to even have a peaceful patriotic event like a flag wave in deep blue cities like Portland or Seattle without extensive police protection and prior planning. Without those things, as we saw in Portland last night, even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands.

    They've funded, defended, and covered for Antifa.

    They crossed all the way over into open advocacy and defense of mass race rioting and burning down cities this year over BLM, something this country hasn't seen in a half-century.

    They tried to murder a 17 year-old boy earlier this week three separate times, and would have succeeded had he not defended himself successfully.

    They finally did murder one of their political enemies last night in cold blood.

    Now they're taking potshots at their political opponents in the street during peaceful political assemblies, literally attacking democracy after years of maliciously and spuriously accusing the President and his supporters of doing this.

    And, finally, of course, they have the gall to do what any sociopath would and blame their victims. "Look what you made us do!!" This is known as "DARVO," "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender," and is a form of gaslighting.

    Trump and his supporters need to put what's going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Redneck farmer, @Colin Wright, @Dr. X, @Harry Baldwin, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous

    To be fair there has been a lot of white supremacist violence over the last 5 years. Just last August, a white shooter aggrieved with the “Hispanic invasion” killed 23 Latinos at a Walmart in El Paso.

    • Troll: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @bomag
    @anonymous

    That is not *a lot*.

    The Left gets so much mileage out of those few incidents they might as well be staged.

    You could soon be living in a box with no freedom but at least the once-every-ten-year White supremacist incident will be quashed.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @anonymous

    Is that all you got, one incident in five years? Versus the practically daily violence from the Left?

    Replies: @anonymous

  97. @Bill P
    The right has to be very disciplined right now. Keep marching/caravaning, but limit force to self defense only. It's heartrending what happened to the young man in Portland, but these gangsters are getting desperate and escalating provocations to murder for a reason: they've got the media on their side.

    Don't take the bait.

    Also, enough with the anti-Jew crap (looking at you, 4chan). Yes, lots of Jews have been involved with the radical left historically, but this time they don't have a dog in the fight. Neither do the Mexicans or orientals. The overwhelming majority of the agitators are irreligious whites and militant blacks. Don't make it harder to beat them by swelling their ranks.

    There's a place for everyone in a sane, conservative America. In the left's America, it's an existential fight, and they intend to take this to its logical, genocidal conclusion. They are truly deranged.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymousse, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Pericles, @VinnyVette

    Sorry, but your “walk the straight and narrow” strategy has not worked for the right at all. War has been declared on the right, and the center, Democrat or Republican it matters not.
    We’ve all sat back patiently waiting for Trump, and Republicans to put a stop to the madness, and they clearly will not.
    BLM / ANTIFA, the media the Democrat party are at war with all of the silent majority, The Republicans are complacent, and allowing this to go on as some kind of ectoral strategy or more Trump 3d chess shennigans, and it’s time for more Kyle Rittenhouse’s to step up not less.
    People like you still think we can just vote our way out of this, and you are sadly mistaken.
    It’s getting to the point were it’s almost illegal to be white, or support even what used to be a reasonable, centrist position on anything. Your vote isn’t going to save you when the mobs storm your neighbourhood.

  98. @bruce county
    @Steve Sailer

    Spielberg loves shotguns.

    Spielberg is an excellent shot with a shotgun. Actor Shia LaBeouf once said about his shooting, “He’s an Olympic shot. The hand-eye co-ordination of that man is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. If he weren’t a great director, he could be one of our greatest snipers”.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter, @Twodees Partain

    Shia LaBeouf is an idiot. Trap shooters aren’t automatically great rifle shots. Why anyone would know (or give a shit) what Shia has to say on any subject is a mystery to me. He’s a libtard airhead who ruins any film in which he’s cast.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Twodees Partain

    Among gun owners, it's known that trap and skeet shooters are the least likely to support Second Amendment rights and the most likely to support bans on semiautomatic rifles or handguns. They consider themselves superior with their fancy shotguns, a group apart, and assume the gun-grabbers will never come for them. It's a real cultural schism within gun owners.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  99. @Twodees Partain
    @bruce county

    Shia LaBeouf is an idiot. Trap shooters aren't automatically great rifle shots. Why anyone would know (or give a shit) what Shia has to say on any subject is a mystery to me. He's a libtard airhead who ruins any film in which he's cast.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Among gun owners, it’s known that trap and skeet shooters are the least likely to support Second Amendment rights and the most likely to support bans on semiautomatic rifles or handguns. They consider themselves superior with their fancy shotguns, a group apart, and assume the gun-grabbers will never come for them. It’s a real cultural schism within gun owners.

    • Thanks: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Harry Baldwin


    Among gun owners, it’s known that trap and skeet shooters are the least likely to support Second Amendment rights and the most likely to support bans on semiautomatic rifles or handguns.
     
    No shit.

    Steven Spielberg Gives Big To Combat Gun Violence
    George and Amal Clooney, Steven Spielberg, Oprah Winfrey donated millions to support the Parkland shooting survivors march for gun control.

    https://patch.com/california/pacificpalisades/steven-spielberg-gives-big-combat-gun-violence
     
    It's like ex-cops who want guns for themselves, but not for YOU.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESay0kDRGYk
  100. @danand
    @Reg Cæsar


    “I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.“
     
    Reg Cæsar, that immigrant my have been smart to sell the hat:

    https://flic.kr/p/2jBTEW9

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    Winnetka resident David Delgado pleaded to one felony count of assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office. He is scheduled to be sentenced May 28 and faces four years in state prison.”

    Replies: @El Dato, @Achmed E. Newman, @Servant of Gla'aki

    How did the attacker know WTF the hat said? If it was that he was a Russian, I say deport the both of them!

  101. @anon
    Leftard Twatter has been shrieking that Kyle Rittenhouse hunted down and murdered people purely because of politics. With that lie bouncing around inside the echo chamber it is not a really huge stretch for someone to decide to go a little kinetic on a Bad Orange Man car caravan.

    It would be a really good service to the entire country if the Main Stream Media could cool down their own screaming and quit serving up pure hatred. But the MSM does not serve the entire country, so I guess that won't be happening any time soon, or at all. When the history is written, the evil role of the MSM in stoking the haters must be given a prominent place.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @bomag

    Joining Big Media has become akin to joining a cult: absorb the doctrine and hate on the enemies.

    And get paid (sometimes).

  102. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    Why do so many people hate Trump?

    Money, upon which their livelihoods rest. Even without Trump, the present system has run through its resources. No leadership, close to its credit limit, US cannot support its own population, retail stores are closing because the middle class is vanishing (over 50% of US population saves nothing each month), US military dominance is vanishing and won’t come back without a recapitalization that would push the US over its remaining credit limit, BIPOC (*) groups that want more of the political swag, cities that urgently need recapitalization, a reliance on Party street fighters right out of 1930s Germany– . . . you get the drift.

    Things are so desperate that the whole US Establishment believes that only becoming a totalitarian government enforcing a command economy stands any chance of preserving the US Establishment. Even kids training for SJW jobs in college, even grade school kids whose parents are SJW workers in government bureaucrats, believe this. They believe that the only legitimate political stance is unity and adherence to the Establishment, which is a Marxist establishment because Marxism is both arbitrary and totalitarian — explicit Marxism would give the US Establishment the power and the command economy the Establishment thinks will save them.

    And then comes Trump — putting a stick in the spokes. Empowering a group that doesn’t believe in totalitarian government or Marxism, who will delay the transition until it is too late to save the Establishment. Suddenly, everybody’s SJW job is imperiled. The whole system is imperiled!

    Of course they hate Trump. They believe that he threatens their survival, that he is taking away their last chance. In fact, he does neither — they are dying, will not survive in any case, have no last chance, and the Establishment sort of knows this but represses, even internally, its own knowledge of impending mortality. Tell members of the Establishment that the Establishment is dying and has no chance, and that you won’t grant it arbitrary power, and you’ll get the same hatred Trump gets.

    Hatred is evoked by threats to survival, and the Establishment believes totalitarian rule is its only hope of survival. It believes this even though it is falling because it took effective totalitarian rule back in the 1960s and used that rule to waste the entire US industrial plant, and waste its own legitimacy, on internal political fights (**). They think as drug addicts think, “If I could only get one more hit, my brain would fix itself and I would be OK again.”

    *) BIPOC: Black, Indigenous, & People of Color. Note that listing is in order of intersectional priority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality).

    **) Seriously — Even US intervention in other countries is almost always the sole result of internal US politics, often trivial internal US politics, and has almost nothing to do with the countries, the region, or US interests. Remember back when the US invaded Afghanistan? “Graveyard of Empires”? Or the Kosovo intervention? As for industrial intervention — even more trivial. Remember the US giving China its entire technological base, even enough to make accurate ICBMs, so that the PRC would become a “responsible member” of the “community of nations”? Nobody thought further than that (originally) the China market would open, and then (once industry started moving to China) that this would “hurt conservatives”.
    And instituting replacement level immigration to ensure that subsidies to the cities continued — the end game, replacement of the Democrats too, was always going to be what now confronts the Establishment and everybody else as well.
    Trust government with totalitarian rule and you get government by vindictive incompetents, and that’s if you’re lucky and “murderous” isn’t added to the list.

  103. @anonymous
    @Thomas

    To be fair there has been a lot of white supremacist violence over the last 5 years. Just last August, a white shooter aggrieved with the "Hispanic invasion" killed 23 Latinos at a Walmart in El Paso.

    Replies: @bomag, @Almost Missouri

    That is not *a lot*.

    The Left gets so much mileage out of those few incidents they might as well be staged.

    You could soon be living in a box with no freedom but at least the once-every-ten-year White supremacist incident will be quashed.

  104. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    Why is Trump so hated? My theory in part is that before 2016, you have to go all the way back to 2004 to find a presidential election that liberals lost. So libs in their 20s now were only kids back then and didn’t care, and thus 2016 was the first time they didn’t get what they wanted — in brutally surprising fashion. They’re already spoiled and entitled and thus cannot abide this sea change from Obama to some mean old white guy who beat the First Female President.

    Add this to Trump being so blatantly misquoted right from the start about Mexicans, Muslims, neo-Nazis and pussy-grabbing

  105. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief
    @Ben tillman


    When viewed in retrospect, the decision to vote for Trump was even more important than we thought at the time.
     
    Is there a list of points supporting your thesis? - Let me try if you don't mind (and - correct me if you please)

    1 The way the President cuts through the fake news

    2 That he does not enforce military actions abroad

    3 That he decapitated Isis

    4 His trade deals with China

    5 The quite defensive instead of plainly destructive way in which he handles race (blacks)

    6 He rather fights Antif instead of fighting with Antifa (and BLM etc.)

    7 He is clearly opposing what Douglas Murray labeled The Madneess of the Crowds

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Dieter
    Additional item for your list:

    * Has reduced blue-collar immigration to 10% of its flow rate when Trump was elected.
    * Has issued an executive order that to reduce white collar (H1B) immigration flow rate, which has been temporarily nullified by a list of “exceptions” to Trump’s order that enables almost full flow rate. If re-elected, it is plausible that Trump will eliminate the list of “exceptions”.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anonymous

    This and he did advocate free speech and the freedom of science. - Every time I mention this to rather liberal people, they shrug.

    And what about the part of the border wall he did build? - Too little too late or - (as Scott Adams had it quite recently) - : It is something - and that's better than nothing?

  106. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymousse

    Spielberg's love of fine shotguns is an idiosyncratic taste for his class. He only shows off his shotgun collection to close friends. The only one to talk about it to the press was the unreliable Shia Labeouf. Charlton Heston would allude to it but, I don't believe he mentioned Spielberg by name. In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @David In TN

    “In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume.”

    There is director whom I’ve assumed might fit this category. He does films of the action-explosion genre. Here’s a hint: He testified for the prosecution at a Los Angeles murder trial a dozen years or so ago.

    When asked his profession, he answered, “I am a film director.”

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @David In TN

    "action-explosion genre"

    Thanks to the director you allude to and his proclivity to cut scenes down to three seconds (slight exaggeration) there is a movement afoot to return to 70s-style long scenes where the story, characters, and atmosphere can breathe and expand. Okay, I'm hallucinating. That's not gonna happen. I just watched the Michael Cimino cut of Heaven's Gate (1980) and am suddenly over-the-moon about the power of long scenes. But the black ladies are in charge now. Them and their exhausted babies.

  107. @AnotherDad
    Trump needs to repeatedly make this point:

    The Democrats, the left, progressives routinely physically attack people on "the right", attempt to deny them the right to speak. There is a clear continuing pattern of this from universities, to the Trump rallies in 2016, to Charlottesville, to BLM protests, to people simply defending property from looters (like Kenosha) people, to these attacks on Trump rallies now.

    The left/minoritarians/Democrats/BLM/Antifa are unwilling to allow conservatives to speak ... or even exist. They are totalitarian thugs.

    Trump needs to keep pointing this out again and again and again. Force the media/Democrats to react with their denials and nonsense. But get this reality into the consciousness of ordinary Americans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Ma Laoshi, @Buffalo Joe

    The presidency is not another pundit job. He could, you know, do something about it if he’d show any interest. After four years, I think we’ve seen enough to know that he’s only animated by the fortunes of Wall Street (very much including his own), plus the whims and needs of Bibi Netanyahu. But go ahead, re-elect him, then you’ll see the “true Trump” or whatever.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Ma Laoshi


    The presidency is not another pundit job.
     
    Correct--the "another" part.

    The presidency is an executive political job. He's supposed to be doing. But a big part of doing is creating the political conditions on the ground--in the public, in Congress--to get his doing done.

    Right now he's running for re-election, and that job is almost entirely making a case for "elect me not him".
  108. @Coemgen
    @Percy Gryce

    I thought you were referring to Train Carrying GOP Lawmakers Hits Garbage Truck In Virginia. Probably just a coincidence, much like the catastrophic failure of water system supplying metropolitan Boston shortly after Republican Senator from Massachusetts, Scott Brown, voted against Obamacare was just a coincidence.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    just a coincidence.

    Just like the coincidence that Burundi’s President died shortly after (correctly) declaring WuFlu as, “nonsense,” and throwing the WHO out of the country, only to be replaced with a leader that immediately started playing ball:

    Coronavirus and Regime Change: Burundi’s Covid Coup

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/14/coronavirus-and-regime-change-burundis-covid-coup/

    All just one big coincidence…nothing to see here…

  109. @International Jew
    What kind of gun is that? The magazine seems curved like it's made for commie 7.62×39.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @bruce county, @anon

    What kind of gun is that?

    Modern Kalashnikov clone of some sort, semi-auto only.

    That finger is in the wrong place, by the way.

  110. @anonymous
    @Thomas

    To be fair there has been a lot of white supremacist violence over the last 5 years. Just last August, a white shooter aggrieved with the "Hispanic invasion" killed 23 Latinos at a Walmart in El Paso.

    Replies: @bomag, @Almost Missouri

    Is that all you got, one incident in five years? Versus the practically daily violence from the Left?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting killed 11 and occurred in 2018.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  111. @Jay Fink
    My dad lived in Woodland Hills from 1978- 1984. It seemed like a suburban wonderland to me. He lived near a street with a Licorice Pizza record store that I would walk to. If you happen to remember it (I know you were a big music fan and that was a great record store) was that Ventura Boulevard? There was a big mall on the street with a Broadway department store. I haven't been back since.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    My aunt and uncle and cousins lived there in the mid to late 60s. My uncle was an IBM computer programmer who then worked first briefly for the Illinois Institute of Technology Research Institute, and then for successively smaller private profit making companie,s until he went on his own as a consultant. The first of these companies transferred him from Chicago to LA. They were among the few non-Jewish people in the neighborhood.

  112. @Almost Missouri
    @anonymous

    Is that all you got, one incident in five years? Versus the practically daily violence from the Left?

    Replies: @anonymous

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting killed 11 and occurred in 2018.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @anonymous

    Okay, keep 'em coming...

    Surely the well hasn't gone dry with two examples?

  113. @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    Salon:


    Vince Vaughn has company: 10 unexpectedly pro-gun celebrities

    KALI HOLLOWAY
    JUNE 5, 2015

    This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

    ******
    3. Steven Spielberg. This one’s a bit of a doozy, since for many conservative types, Spielberg's name is synonomous with “Hollywood liberal." But a piece titled "Hollywood Liberal Gun Nuts" by Steve Sailer could have some ammosexuals reconsidering their dartboard choices. Sailer points out that Spielberg isn’t just a gun owner, he’s a man in possession of an arsenal that would make Ted Nugent proud. Quoting from Joseph McBride’s 1997 biography of Spielberg, Sailer discusses Spielberg’s love of skeet shooting. In the 1970s, Spielberg often took recreational shots with his buddy John Milius, screenwriter of Apocalypse Now and a man who in a 1975 interview with Daily Variety stated, “I just absolutely hate liberals and people who are civilized.”

    “Milius...introduced Spielberg to the sport of skeet shooting, a male-bonding ritual for Milius and his fellow Hollywood gun enthusiasts...Spielberg, who had learned to shoot from his father while growing up in Arizona, still visits the Oak Tree Gun Club. ‘He’s a darn good shot,’ says club member [and late actor] Robert Stack, himself a world-class target shooter. ‘He has terrific reactions. Clay target shooting is a very subtle, highly sophisticated sport; it takes a lot of nerve. He shot some very good scores.’

    Sailer also points to a 2008 interview with actor-cum-flesh-and-blood Internet-meme Shia LaBeouf, in which the actor spoke glowingly of Spielberg’s vast stockade of weaponry (observed when the director invited LaBeouf over for a skeet shooting session). "He has the most ridiculous collection," LaBeouf told GQ Magazine. "He's got a gun for every movie he's made. He buys old Perazzi guns, Italian—beautiful, beautiful guns—and gets them engraved. It takes like a year. He's got the Jaws gun; he's got E.T. He let me shoot with the Jurassic Park gun. He just got his Saving Private Ryan back from the engraver's.”

    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.

    Typical idiotic leftwing media reporting.

  114. @Dr. X
    @Thomas


    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.
     
    Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote "It is better to be feared than loved," but the Left doesn't fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn't happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it's Game On -- riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Almost Missouri, @RadicalCenter, @Corvinus

    they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On

    Agreed. As you probably know, Hillary—the highest ranking Dem not currently running for office—has already gone on record saying “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances“.

    This was not off-the-cuff. This was a pre-arranged mass broadcast that they will win or they will fight.

    Unless it is Trump’s, there won’t be a peaceful concession.

    Prepare accordingly.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    I didn't believe you but... uh... she really did say that

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156

  115. @Jay Fink
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    I have a friend who advertises his support daily. He wears Trump t-shirts, caps and now a Trump face mask. He loves the attention and has people flocking to him daily wanting to talk to him, take pictures with him etc. He notes a recent increase of blacks who show enthusiasm at his Trump gear.

    He did this before the 2016 election as well. He travels the country and when he came to Washington State we hung out in Seattle's extremely liberal Capital Hill district. He was a total novelty and constantly got stopped by people. The only negative reaction was at pizza parlor/bar with a sign in front that said "Safe Zone". A group of young men got behind him and pretended they were hitting him. They were also flipping him off behind his back but were (like a lot of people in Seattle) too passive to say anything directly to him. Soon I see security. Oh no they are going to kick out my friend for wearing a Trump shirt I thought. Nope to my surprise he kicked out the group of young men. He told them."This is a hate free zone, you can't stay in here when you behave like that". I was shocked!

    Knowing the great experiences my friend has daily I think more Trump supporters should be bold and advertise their support. I suppose there is risk but there are also fulfilling interactions that come your way.

    Replies: @Bernard, @Hibernian

    I’ve travelled frequently to Seattle to see my Mom, 2009 to last September, and it didn’t seem to be all that crazy, though the people obviously have an entitled attitude. Not all that long ago, statewide, a liberal Governor won by a narrow margin over Dino Rossi, who IMHO deserves the title conservative, although he’s not the most conservative of conservatives. That said, there were the WTO riots, which were before I began going there (except for a wedding in’97.) On my first post-Covid visit to Mom, or ever afterwards, I will not go downtown, or anywhere very near downtown. (Previously I’ve gone there almost every trip with no real problems, only maniac drivers on I-5.)

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Hibernian

    'I’ve travelled frequently to Seattle to see my Mom, 2009 to last September, and it didn’t seem to be all that crazy, though the people obviously have an entitled attitude. Not all that long ago, statewide, a liberal Governor won by a narrow margin over Dino Rossi, who IMHO deserves the title conservative, although he’s not the most conservative of conservatives. That said, there were the WTO riots, which were before I began going there (except for a wedding in’97.) On my first post-Covid visit to Mom, or ever afterwards, I will not go downtown, or anywhere very near downtown. (Previously I’ve gone there almost every trip with no real problems, only maniac drivers on I-5.)'

    Indeed. I used to recommend it to people who wanted the big city.

    Nice town -- and (thanks to global warming) nice weather. Beautiful surroundings. Everything you could want.

    No mas.

  116. @Harry Baldwin
    @Twodees Partain

    Among gun owners, it's known that trap and skeet shooters are the least likely to support Second Amendment rights and the most likely to support bans on semiautomatic rifles or handguns. They consider themselves superior with their fancy shotguns, a group apart, and assume the gun-grabbers will never come for them. It's a real cultural schism within gun owners.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Among gun owners, it’s known that trap and skeet shooters are the least likely to support Second Amendment rights and the most likely to support bans on semiautomatic rifles or handguns.

    No shit.

    Steven Spielberg Gives Big To Combat Gun Violence
    George and Amal Clooney, Steven Spielberg, Oprah Winfrey donated millions to support the Parkland shooting survivors march for gun control.

    https://patch.com/california/pacificpalisades/steven-spielberg-gives-big-combat-gun-violence

    It’s like ex-cops who want guns for themselves, but not for YOU.

  117. @Reg Cæsar

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    There were almost five million of them in November 2016. She may have to drive out of town, though. Like, to Buck and Merle's Bakersfield. That's in Trump's largest county, the only one of the top 17 he carried.


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/United_States_presidential_election_in_California%2C_2016.svg/581px-United_States_presidential_election_in_California%2C_2016.svg.png


    http://joelkotkin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/election-results-CA.png

    Orange was of little use.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Still hate this backwards–switched from tradition and openly fraudulent–color scheme.

    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    ll hate this backwards–switched from tradition and openly fraudulent–color scheme.
    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.
     
    From Longley & Peirce's 1996 The Electoral College Primer:

    "Over the next hour, television election maps became awash in 'Reagan blue' as state after state was called for the Republican." (p.37)

    That refers to the 1980 election, by the way. Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Sparkon

  118. @Ma Laoshi
    @AnotherDad

    The presidency is not another pundit job. He could, you know, do something about it if he'd show any interest. After four years, I think we've seen enough to know that he's only animated by the fortunes of Wall Street (very much including his own), plus the whims and needs of Bibi Netanyahu. But go ahead, re-elect him, then you'll see the "true Trump" or whatever.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    The presidency is not another pundit job.

    Correct–the “another” part.

    The presidency is an executive political job. He’s supposed to be doing. But a big part of doing is creating the political conditions on the ground–in the public, in Congress–to get his doing done.

    Right now he’s running for re-election, and that job is almost entirely making a case for “elect me not him”.

  119. @Anonymous
    @Dieter Kief

    Dieter
    Additional item for your list:

    * Has reduced blue-collar immigration to 10% of its flow rate when Trump was elected.
    * Has issued an executive order that to reduce white collar (H1B) immigration flow rate, which has been temporarily nullified by a list of "exceptions" to Trump's order that enables almost full flow rate. If re-elected, it is plausible that Trump will eliminate the list of "exceptions".

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    This and he did advocate free speech and the freedom of science. – Every time I mention this to rather liberal people, they shrug.

    And what about the part of the border wall he did build? – Too little too late or – (as Scott Adams had it quite recently) – : It is something – and that’s better than nothing?

  120. Wow, both the Trump-loving shooter and the Antifa-loving shooter have German surnames! Rittenhouse and Reinoehl? Who could have guessed. Were all the Brittenbachers unavailabe? Would that they were named Ramirez and Sanchez instead.

    It’s interesting that Sailer is so obsessed with non-white violence, but not so much with intra-ethnic European violence. Which European groups are somewhat more prone to sadistic, if methodic, violence? To quote Steve Martin, which ones seem to have a historic predilection of causing things pain?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Bene


    It’s interesting that Sailer is so obsessed with non-white violence, but not so much with intra-ethnic European violence. Which European groups are somewhat more prone to sadistic, if methodic, violence? To quote Steve Martin, which ones seem to have a historic predilection of causing things pain?
     
    I think your computer inserted "European" where you meant to write "African."

    Now it reads accurately.
  121. @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar

    Still hate this backwards--switched from tradition and openly fraudulent--color scheme.

    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ll hate this backwards–switched from tradition and openly fraudulent–color scheme.
    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.

    From Longley & Peirce’s 1996 The Electoral College Primer:

    “Over the next hour, television election maps became awash in ‘Reagan blue’ as state after state was called for the Republican.” (p.37)

    That refers to the 1980 election, by the way. Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    The networks belatedly reversed the color scheme when they realized what they had done.

    , @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.
     
    I don't think "earned" is quite the right way to put it, Reg.

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election, and bribed them before the election with critical but embargoed military spare parts to do it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Art Deco, @Alden

  122. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    ll hate this backwards–switched from tradition and openly fraudulent–color scheme.
    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.
     
    From Longley & Peirce's 1996 The Electoral College Primer:

    "Over the next hour, television election maps became awash in 'Reagan blue' as state after state was called for the Republican." (p.37)

    That refers to the 1980 election, by the way. Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Sparkon

    The networks belatedly reversed the color scheme when they realized what they had done.

  123. @Colin Wright
    @Thomas

    '... even being identified now as a Trump supporter in public on the street might mean taking your life in your hands...'

    'Might'?

    I wouldn't consider putting on a 'Make America Great Again' cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki

    I wouldn’t consider putting on a ‘Make America Great Again’ cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.

    My stepbrother is…kinda slow. He also has a very loud voice, and a tendency to be very outspoken in public (he’s an enthusiastic Trump supporter). This works out for him, because he lives in Sioux Falls. But he’s about to take a trip to the Bay Area, and I’m a little worried he’s gonna get, you know…maybe killed. I told him to definitely not talk about politics while he’s in the Bay Area, and he acted like he gets it. But I don’t think he really does. It’s not like we’re super-close or anything (he’s kind of obnoxious, really). But I still don’t want something bad to happen to him. It’s pretty amazing we’ve arrived at the point where having the wrong political views can make domestic travel dangerous in the USA…but here we are.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Make him watch as many of the countless videos that are out there showing Trump supporters being attacked until he gets it. Ofc if he's really stubborn he might insist on committing suicide by leftist just to prove a point.

  124. @Anonymousse
    @Bill P


    If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.
     
    1) If you ever trust me you’re a fool because look how awful I am. Fools deserve to be victimized!

    2) If you don’t trust me you’re a hateful antisemite... hateful antisemites deserve to be victimized!

    Astonished any of us have managed to fully internalize and accept that.

    Replies: @Bill P

    Neither argument would work on a Christian. On an irreligious people, yes, it would work. Whose fault is it that so many Americans have rejected their faith? Isn’t it their own?

  125. @danand
    @Reg Cæsar


    “I have a MAGA hat in Russian, bought from an immigrant in Reagan National Airport.“
     
    Reg Cæsar, that immigrant my have been smart to sell the hat:

    https://flic.kr/p/2jBTEW9

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    Winnetka resident David Delgado pleaded to one felony count of assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office. He is scheduled to be sentenced May 28 and faces four years in state prison.”

    Replies: @El Dato, @Achmed E. Newman, @Servant of Gla'aki

    “A 32-year-old man accused of attacking a Hermosa Beach restaurant patron because he was wearing a Russian-language “Make America Great Again” hat pleaded no contest Wednesday, authorities said.

    I still think it’s weird that people choose to wear hats when they’re indoors.

    • Agree: Muggles
  126. It won’t be over on Wednesday morning:

    Data firm predicts election ‘chaos’ as Trump seems to win in a landslide before losing as more votes are counted

    Now, this might just be a scare tactic to drum up business for their business. From both sides.

    Brazilians have the best Tuesday in the world; Americans have the worst.

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Reg Cæsar

    If California, Oregon, and Washington were swing states instead of deep blue states, then the winners would not have been declared in 2016 so quickly or in the past. The states that have been slowest at counting votes have usually not been competitive states. However, as the data showed in 2018, the blue shift does occur in those states and will probably occur in more states in the future.

  127. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    ll hate this backwards–switched from tradition and openly fraudulent–color scheme.
    They are the Reds and they have let it become even more obvious these past few years.
     
    From Longley & Peirce's 1996 The Electoral College Primer:

    "Over the next hour, television election maps became awash in 'Reagan blue' as state after state was called for the Republican." (p.37)

    That refers to the 1980 election, by the way. Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Sparkon

    Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.

    I don’t think “earned” is quite the right way to put it, Reg.

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election, and bribed them before the election with critical but embargoed military spare parts to do it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Sparkon

    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you're coming from.

    Replies: @Sparkon

    , @Art Deco
    @Sparkon

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election,

    This was a fiction promoted by Gary Sick and Barbara Honneggar.

    , @Alden
    @Sparkon

    Please cite the exact law Regean violated. I don’t mean general terms, but the exact USC and sections. And don’t cite a Wikipedia article that uses general terms. If you claim someone violated a law, cite the exact Law.

    Then explain exactly what Regean did to violate the exact USC.

    Replies: @Sparkon

  128. @Bill P
    @Ben tillman

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    I grew up urban Catholic, and trust me we didn't need Jews to screw up our own communities. I am sick to death of Christians blaming their own shortcomings on Jews. I know Jews also like to blame their problems on outsiders, but that's their problem, not mine. At least, it wouldn't be my problem if my own people learned how to behave themselves.

    Now we've got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews' fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we're some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    Stop making excuses for white trash.

    Replies: @Anonymousse, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman

    If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    It is quite intriguing that even these critics won’t stand up for William Jennings Bryan vs. the ACLU. They must be bought off as well, though for a lesser figure.

  129. Steve,

    Here is a shooting that checks off almost everything you write about.

    https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/father-of-7-year-old-girl-fatally-shot-in-south-bend-the-gun-violence-just/article_212ec694-ebb4-11ea-acc6-373c6ff26e19.html

    1. African-Americans with ethno-centric names
    2. Parties
    3. Large crowds (why are 60 people at a birthday party.
    4. Drive by shooting
    5. No one see anything

  130. @Reg Cæsar
    It won't be over on Wednesday morning:


    Data firm predicts election 'chaos' as Trump seems to win in a landslide before losing as more votes are counted

    Now, this might just be a scare tactic to drum up business for their business. From both sides.


    Brazilians have the best Tuesday in the world; Americans have the worst.


    https://img.rezdy.com/PRODUCT_IMAGE/64765/086501301dc942279f702aeff0e3df1a09_Samb__dromo_lg.jpg

    https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/votinglines_1458671621581_1054241_ver1.0_640_360.jpg

    Replies: @guest007

    If California, Oregon, and Washington were swing states instead of deep blue states, then the winners would not have been declared in 2016 so quickly or in the past. The states that have been slowest at counting votes have usually not been competitive states. However, as the data showed in 2018, the blue shift does occur in those states and will probably occur in more states in the future.

  131. @Templar
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    In 2016 Trump got 31% of the total votes in California.
    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki, @RadicalCenter

    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.

    Not quite. Whites may make up 36 percent of the population of California, but almost certainly cast well over 50 percent of all the ballots (this is a pattern seen in every state, for decades). But likely Trump did obtain a clear majority of White Californian votes.

  132. @Hibernian
    @Jay Fink

    I've travelled frequently to Seattle to see my Mom, 2009 to last September, and it didn't seem to be all that crazy, though the people obviously have an entitled attitude. Not all that long ago, statewide, a liberal Governor won by a narrow margin over Dino Rossi, who IMHO deserves the title conservative, although he's not the most conservative of conservatives. That said, there were the WTO riots, which were before I began going there (except for a wedding in'97.) On my first post-Covid visit to Mom, or ever afterwards, I will not go downtown, or anywhere very near downtown. (Previously I've gone there almost every trip with no real problems, only maniac drivers on I-5.)

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘I’ve travelled frequently to Seattle to see my Mom, 2009 to last September, and it didn’t seem to be all that crazy, though the people obviously have an entitled attitude. Not all that long ago, statewide, a liberal Governor won by a narrow margin over Dino Rossi, who IMHO deserves the title conservative, although he’s not the most conservative of conservatives. That said, there were the WTO riots, which were before I began going there (except for a wedding in’97.) On my first post-Covid visit to Mom, or ever afterwards, I will not go downtown, or anywhere very near downtown. (Previously I’ve gone there almost every trip with no real problems, only maniac drivers on I-5.)’

    Indeed. I used to recommend it to people who wanted the big city.

    Nice town — and (thanks to global warming) nice weather. Beautiful surroundings. Everything you could want.

    No mas.

  133. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    I drove by LeBron James' estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Dr. X

    I drove by LeBron James’ estate last month. Out front, there was a big black SUV with a white man in it. He had one of those Secret Service-style earphones, and he was eyeballing everybody who drove by.

    Probably an off-duty or retired cop making a pile of cash doing private security.

    That’s the thing a lot of white conservatives don’t get about the race war. There’s no white solidarity. There seems to be an endless supply of tatted, ripped, shaven-headed, white ex-Special Forces dudes and cops who are willing to shoot as many of their fellow whites as the blacks, women and liberals who sign their paychecks tell them to shoot.

    Wasn’t it Jay Gould who, when asked what he was going to do when the proletariat came after the capitalists, responded that he would “Hire half the proletariat to kill the other half”?

  134. @Anonymous
    What a shame the Deplorable killed last night died for Kushnerism.

    He thought he was a Trumpist fighting for Trumpism but Trumpism is a rhetorical pack of lies masking the Kushnerist agenda.

    The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables.

    DO NOT LET THE NEXT DEAD BODY BE YOU OR A LOVED ONE

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Tex, @SunBakedSuburb

    Nah, that won’t cut it.

    Try something like:

    Hello orphans of the Pacific. You’re stuck on Guadalcanal while lounge lizards make love to your sweetheart back in USA. How will you get home now that your ships are all sunk?

    Then kick over to some light music. I vote for Lale Anderson singing “Lili Marleen.” Cardi B is just going to make the GIs turn off.

    • LOL: Muggles
  135. @Dr. X
    @Thomas


    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.
     
    Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote "It is better to be feared than loved," but the Left doesn't fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn't happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it's Game On -- riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Almost Missouri, @RadicalCenter, @Corvinus

    I agree with your bleak assessment of violence following a Trump victory — so much so, in fact, that I am getting my family out of her. I’d guess that we will be relatively safe now that moved from downtown, but I wouldn’t bet my loved ones’ safety on it.

    My wife and children will NOT be here in Los Angeles — or any other big city — for several months, starting before the election and, if Trump wins, continuing well past Inauguration Day.

    While I’m here in LA alone, I just hope that the disorder doesn’t affect my ability to buy more ammo and have weed and pizza delivered (in that order). Yeah, better stock up on the ammo and the weed in advance of November, huh?

  136. @Achmed E. Newman

    A helicopter hovered above Tina Johnson’s Woodland Hills apartment complex as she went to the pool for a quick swim. …
     
    as? That's pretty unclear.

    The sight and the subsequent confrontation seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.

    “We wouldn’t have ever imagined it would happen in California,” Johnson said.

     
    Who is that idiot, just some valley girl wanting to show off her bod to the guys on the helicopter?

    It seems like a lot of you people out in LA get your impression of the world from Hollywood.

    Yeah, Southerners shoot at the President all the time. I mean just last century the "Texans" got that one guy.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Hypnotoad666, @LeavingCAsoon, @Alden

    She wasn’t surprised at the helicopter. She was shocked, shocked that there are Republican Trump supporters in Ca.

  137. @Anonymous
    What a shame the Deplorable killed last night died for Kushnerism.

    He thought he was a Trumpist fighting for Trumpism but Trumpism is a rhetorical pack of lies masking the Kushnerist agenda.

    The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables.

    DO NOT LET THE NEXT DEAD BODY BE YOU OR A LOVED ONE

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Tex, @SunBakedSuburb

    “The Kushnerists hate the Deplorables.”

    I make this point to family members who think highly of President Blumpft!. I follow up with the fact that the white working class has no representation in establishment politics. They call me a bad name and ask to borrow money.

  138. @Bernard

    Steve Sailer says: • Website
    August 31, 2020 at 1:40 am GMT • 100 Words ⇑
    @t
    Woodland Hills is an upscale suburban part of Los Angeles with a low crime rate. It backs up against the Hollywood Hills where they turn into the substantial Santa Monica mountains, so it’s a long way from South-Central.
     
    Woodland Hills (which is an area within the city of Los Angeles, not a separate city) is on the south-western most part of the city. It borders Calabasas, which is a separate city, but most importantly has it’s own school district, not LAUSD. Though Woodland Hills is relatively upscale, Calabasas has 20-30% premium for similar properties because of the schools. Single family homes start at $1 million.

    Woodland Hills is also the hottest location in the city during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @RadicalCenter

    We’ve been in SoCal only about a decade and continue to learn from your columns. Minor typo correction: Woodland Hills is the NORTH-west part of the City of LA.

  139. @David In TN
    @Steve Sailer

    "In general, movie directors tend to be by personality and tastes more to the right than people assume."

    There is director whom I've assumed might fit this category. He does films of the action-explosion genre. Here's a hint: He testified for the prosecution at a Los Angeles murder trial a dozen years or so ago.

    When asked his profession, he answered, "I am a film director."

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “action-explosion genre”

    Thanks to the director you allude to and his proclivity to cut scenes down to three seconds (slight exaggeration) there is a movement afoot to return to 70s-style long scenes where the story, characters, and atmosphere can breathe and expand. Okay, I’m hallucinating. That’s not gonna happen. I just watched the Michael Cimino cut of Heaven’s Gate (1980) and am suddenly over-the-moon about the power of long scenes. But the black ladies are in charge now. Them and their exhausted babies.

  140. @AnotherDad
    Trump needs to repeatedly make this point:

    The Democrats, the left, progressives routinely physically attack people on "the right", attempt to deny them the right to speak. There is a clear continuing pattern of this from universities, to the Trump rallies in 2016, to Charlottesville, to BLM protests, to people simply defending property from looters (like Kenosha) people, to these attacks on Trump rallies now.

    The left/minoritarians/Democrats/BLM/Antifa are unwilling to allow conservatives to speak ... or even exist. They are totalitarian thugs.

    Trump needs to keep pointing this out again and again and again. Force the media/Democrats to react with their denials and nonsense. But get this reality into the consciousness of ordinary Americans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Ma Laoshi, @Buffalo Joe

    Another Dad, reading your comment, which is excellent, reminds me of cuomo and his minions and the Abortion on Request Law in NY. If you disagreed, and remember faith plays a part in this, cuomo said you should leave NY. So much for a difference of opinion.

  141. @Bene
    Wow, both the Trump-loving shooter and the Antifa-loving shooter have German surnames! Rittenhouse and Reinoehl? Who could have guessed. Were all the Brittenbachers unavailabe? Would that they were named Ramirez and Sanchez instead.

    It's interesting that Sailer is so obsessed with non-white violence, but not so much with intra-ethnic European violence. Which European groups are somewhat more prone to sadistic, if methodic, violence? To quote Steve Martin, which ones seem to have a historic predilection of causing things pain?

    Replies: @Muggles

    It’s interesting that Sailer is so obsessed with non-white violence, but not so much with intra-ethnic European violence. Which European groups are somewhat more prone to sadistic, if methodic, violence? To quote Steve Martin, which ones seem to have a historic predilection of causing things pain?

    I think your computer inserted “European” where you meant to write “African.”

    Now it reads accurately.

  142. @Templar
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    In 2016 Trump got 31% of the total votes in California.
    According to Wikipedia non Hispanic whites are 36% of the Californian population.
    No doubt some blaCKS Hispanics and Asiatics voted for Trump but realistically the Donald got 4 out of 5 white votes in the Golden State.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki, @RadicalCenter

    True, whites are only 36% of Cali’s total population, but last year (2019) we were 42% of California adults age 18 and over. When it comes to likely voters, 58% were white.

    https://www.ppic.org/publication/race-and-voting-in-california/

    https://www.ppic.org/publication/california-voter-and-party-profiles/

    If 58% of actual voters were white, then Trump likely received less than 50% of the white vote in California. Just half of the white vote would account for 29% of the paltry 31% that he received, not leaving enough room for Asian and Latino Trump supporters.

    On a related note, the white population of California is older than the nonwhite population. Even before the plandemic, California politics and culture were already trending more heavily Democrat … and whatever the nonwhite dem voters say they believe in, Dem in our context means in law and practice anti traditional family, anti white, welfarist, anti self defense and gun rights, pro homosexual and mental illness quote transgenderism unquote, pro lavish government employee benefits and pensions, and pro both legal and illegal immigration.

    Pre-plandemic, whites were already steadily declining as a percentage of the Cali population and electorate because of our much higher median age and to a lesser extent because of white people moving (especially retiring) out of state.

    Now we may see an increased, disproportionately white exodus out of big cities, and generally out of California. The Democrat-ruled cities’ refusal to protect innocent people and businesses here from BLM and Antifa violence, looting, and intimidation are the main impetus, and understandably so.

    In other words, the white share of California’s total population, adult population, registered voters, and likely voters will all decline faster in the next couple decades. I can see EuropeanAmericans constituting only twenty percent of the State’s population and twentyfive percent of registered voters in 2040, not so long now.

  143. @Admiral Assbar
    I laughed at the clueless editorial aside that this story “seemed like something that might happen in the South but not here.” With the exception of super-blue Atlanta, very few shots have been fired in the South over Trump or BLM. The West Coast and upper Midwest, on the other hand...

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Right. The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful. Hardly a peep from New Orleans or Houston. And where it got more heated was in some of the whiter cities, ironically, like Nashville and Huntsville. But that was extremely short-lived compared to up North and our West.

    Maybe the rest of the country needs to take note of the calmer race relations in the South, as well as the more laidback attitude towards life.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @S. Anonyia


    The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful.
     
    Everybody in the South is packing, even the blacks and women. I dated a nurse in Houston in the 80s who told me she walked from the parking lot to the hospital with her hand on her gun in her purse. My buddy in NC says you can tell who's packing by whether their shirt is tucked in or not.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  144. @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.
     
    I don't think "earned" is quite the right way to put it, Reg.

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election, and bribed them before the election with critical but embargoed military spare parts to do it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Art Deco, @Alden

    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you’re coming from.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you’re coming from.
     
    Where exactly do you think I'm coming from? Spit it out, man!

    And where did I say the first 12 months of their captivity was valid?

    Whatever you think you see in this context is all in your imagination.The entire Iranian Hostage Crisis was all set up by Bush, Reagan, and Thatcher in 1978, with Casey lurking in the shadows. I've written about it here before, but you must have missed it.


    Mansoor produced a confidential document called the "Country Team Minutes" of April 26, 1978, more than a year before the hostage crisis. The meeting was held in Iran. The second paragraph of the routine minutes, states, "The Ambassador commented on our distinguished visitors, Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Margaret Thatcher, and commented that Teheran seems to be the site for an opposition parties congress." Mansoor indicates the entire relationship was probably the most sophisticated criminal act in recent history. "That the people who, until recently, were holding power in Washington and those who currently are still in control in Teheran, got there by totally subverting the democratic process of both countries is news. That their methods of subversion relied on kidnapping, extortion and murder is criminal," Mansoor states.
     
    The real Iranian hostage story from the files of Fara Mansoor By Harry V. Martin

    So no; Reagan didn't earn squat. He broke the law, and cheated his way to the presidency, where he was a disaster.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  145. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    I think the hate comes from who Trump’s supporters are perceived to be: the deplorables of Hillary Clinton’s imagination, those left-behind whites clinging to their guns and religion. After Obama, we were never supposed to matter again. Pretty much everything had been going the way of the progressives, culture-wise. Our first black president was to be succeeded by our first woman president, who would usher in ever more brown immigrants, etc. And then Trump happened. And he was a joke, saying things no respectable establishment figure was supposed to mention, but somehow those deplorables just didn’t get it. And then they went and elected him President.

    TDS is the fury of people who really thought they’d won for all time, only to have their prize snatched away at the last minute.

  146. @anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting killed 11 and occurred in 2018.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Okay, keep ’em coming…

    Surely the well hasn’t gone dry with two examples?

  147. @Reg Cæsar
    @Sparkon

    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you're coming from.

    Replies: @Sparkon

    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you’re coming from.

    Where exactly do you think I’m coming from? Spit it out, man!

    And where did I say the first 12 months of their captivity was valid?

    Whatever you think you see in this context is all in your imagination.The entire Iranian Hostage Crisis was all set up by Bush, Reagan, and Thatcher in 1978, with Casey lurking in the shadows. I’ve written about it here before, but you must have missed it.

    Mansoor produced a confidential document called the “Country Team Minutes” of April 26, 1978, more than a year before the hostage crisis. The meeting was held in Iran. The second paragraph of the routine minutes, states, “The Ambassador commented on our distinguished visitors, Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Margaret Thatcher, and commented that Teheran seems to be the site for an opposition parties congress.” Mansoor indicates the entire relationship was probably the most sophisticated criminal act in recent history. “That the people who, until recently, were holding power in Washington and those who currently are still in control in Teheran, got there by totally subverting the democratic process of both countries is news. That their methods of subversion relied on kidnapping, extortion and murder is criminal,” Mansoor states.

    The real Iranian hostage story from the files of Fara Mansoor By Harry V. Martin

    So no; Reagan didn’t earn squat. He broke the law, and cheated his way to the presidency, where he was a disaster.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Sparkon

    So you're saying the ayatollahs were puppets of the fascist Reagan just as Reagan was a puppet of the fascist Shah. So the Shah orchestrated his own overthrow.

    Carter lost by his own invention, the "Misery Index". Tell me how Reagan manipulated that, while out of office.

    Besides, even if true, it would pale next to Truman's turning down Japan's offer to negotiate a surrender through the Soviets. That dragged the war on. But it did give Show Me Harry a chance of breaking the record his predecessor set for war crimes.

  148. @Almost Missouri
    @Dr. X


    they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On
     
    Agreed. As you probably know, Hillary—the highest ranking Dem not currently running for office—has already gone on record saying "Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances".

    This was not off-the-cuff. This was a pre-arranged mass broadcast that they will win or they will fight.

    Unless it is Trump's, there won't be a peaceful concession.

    Prepare accordingly.

    Replies: @Anon

    I didn’t believe you but… uh… she really did say that

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156

  149. @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Colin Wright


    I wouldn’t consider putting on a ‘Make America Great Again’ cap in Berkeley, Ca or San Francisco unless I was definitely looking for some action.
     
    My stepbrother is...kinda slow. He also has a very loud voice, and a tendency to be very outspoken in public (he's an enthusiastic Trump supporter). This works out for him, because he lives in Sioux Falls. But he's about to take a trip to the Bay Area, and I'm a little worried he's gonna get, you know...maybe killed. I told him to definitely not talk about politics while he's in the Bay Area, and he acted like he gets it. But I don't think he really does. It's not like we're super-close or anything (he's kind of obnoxious, really). But I still don't want something bad to happen to him. It's pretty amazing we've arrived at the point where having the wrong political views can make domestic travel dangerous in the USA...but here we are.

    Replies: @Anon

    Make him watch as many of the countless videos that are out there showing Trump supporters being attacked until he gets it. Ofc if he’s really stubborn he might insist on committing suicide by leftist just to prove a point.

  150. @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.
     
    I don't think "earned" is quite the right way to put it, Reg.

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election, and bribed them before the election with critical but embargoed military spare parts to do it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Art Deco, @Alden

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election,

    This was a fiction promoted by Gary Sick and Barbara Honneggar.

  151. @S. Anonyia
    @Admiral Assbar

    Right. The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful. Hardly a peep from New Orleans or Houston. And where it got more heated was in some of the whiter cities, ironically, like Nashville and Huntsville. But that was extremely short-lived compared to up North and our West.

    Maybe the rest of the country needs to take note of the calmer race relations in the South, as well as the more laidback attitude towards life.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful.

    Everybody in the South is packing, even the blacks and women. I dated a nurse in Houston in the 80s who told me she walked from the parking lot to the hospital with her hand on her gun in her purse. My buddy in NC says you can tell who’s packing by whether their shirt is tucked in or not.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jim Don Bob


    I dated a nurse in Houston in the 80s who told me she walked from the parking lot to the hospital with her hand on her gun in her purse.
     
    That would have been illegal, pre-Killeen.
  152. @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Carter got stomped worse than Hoover did in 1932. Reagan earned over a thousand electors in two elections, something FDR never did.
     
    I don't think "earned" is quite the right way to put it, Reg.

    I would say Ronald Reagan cheated his way to victory in 1980, considering Reagan and GHW Bush broke the law by negotiating with the Iranians to delay release of the hostages until after the election, and bribed them before the election with critical but embargoed military spare parts to do it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Art Deco, @Alden

    Please cite the exact law Regean violated. I don’t mean general terms, but the exact USC and sections. And don’t cite a Wikipedia article that uses general terms. If you claim someone violated a law, cite the exact Law.

    Then explain exactly what Regean did to violate the exact USC.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    @Alden

    The "exact law" Reagan, Bush, Casey, and accomplices violated is known as the Logan Act, or U.S. Code 953, which I have copied and pasted below from Cornel Law School's online Legal Information Institute. In essence, the law states it is a felony for a private U.S. citizen to negotiate with a foreign government. Wikipedia describes it this way:


    The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. [...] Violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
     
    After the U.S. hostages were seized in Iran, Pres. Carter froze both Iranian assets and shipments of military spare parts to Iran.

    Barbara Honegger's allegations in her book October Surprise have been verified by Ari Ben-Menashe and Jamshid Hashemi, establishing independently from multiple sources, that a deal was made between the Reagan-Bush camp and the Iranians to delay release of the 52 American hostages until after the election. In return, the Iranians would receive embargoed spare parts for its military aircraft.



    U.S. Code Title 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE Part I. CRIMES Chapter 45. FOREIGN RELATIONS Section 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments



    18 U.S. Code § 953.

    Private correspondence with foreign governments

    Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
     
  153. @Jim Don Bob
    @S. Anonyia


    The few protests in the South have been quite peaceful.
     
    Everybody in the South is packing, even the blacks and women. I dated a nurse in Houston in the 80s who told me she walked from the parking lot to the hospital with her hand on her gun in her purse. My buddy in NC says you can tell who's packing by whether their shirt is tucked in or not.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I dated a nurse in Houston in the 80s who told me she walked from the parking lot to the hospital with her hand on her gun in her purse.

    That would have been illegal, pre-Killeen.

  154. @Sparkon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Because the first twelve months of their captivity was valid, but the last two weeks were not. I see where you’re coming from.
     
    Where exactly do you think I'm coming from? Spit it out, man!

    And where did I say the first 12 months of their captivity was valid?

    Whatever you think you see in this context is all in your imagination.The entire Iranian Hostage Crisis was all set up by Bush, Reagan, and Thatcher in 1978, with Casey lurking in the shadows. I've written about it here before, but you must have missed it.


    Mansoor produced a confidential document called the "Country Team Minutes" of April 26, 1978, more than a year before the hostage crisis. The meeting was held in Iran. The second paragraph of the routine minutes, states, "The Ambassador commented on our distinguished visitors, Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Margaret Thatcher, and commented that Teheran seems to be the site for an opposition parties congress." Mansoor indicates the entire relationship was probably the most sophisticated criminal act in recent history. "That the people who, until recently, were holding power in Washington and those who currently are still in control in Teheran, got there by totally subverting the democratic process of both countries is news. That their methods of subversion relied on kidnapping, extortion and murder is criminal," Mansoor states.
     
    The real Iranian hostage story from the files of Fara Mansoor By Harry V. Martin

    So no; Reagan didn't earn squat. He broke the law, and cheated his way to the presidency, where he was a disaster.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So you’re saying the ayatollahs were puppets of the fascist Reagan just as Reagan was a puppet of the fascist Shah. So the Shah orchestrated his own overthrow.

    Carter lost by his own invention, the “Misery Index”. Tell me how Reagan manipulated that, while out of office.

    Besides, even if true, it would pale next to Truman’s turning down Japan’s offer to negotiate a surrender through the Soviets. That dragged the war on. But it did give Show Me Harry a chance of breaking the record his predecessor set for war crimes.

  155. @Dr. X
    @Thomas


    Trump and his supporters need to put what’s going on into this context. And then Trump needs to treat this as a direct assault on the integrity of the election and use the resources of the federal government, up to and including federalizing the national guard and declaring martial law in affected areas, to shut it down and ensure that the campaign and election can be conducted without this sort of ongoing violent interference.
     
    Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

    Trump is a pussy. He talks smack but has backed down every time for the last four years. He cannot even control the government he is president of. Machiavelli wrote "It is better to be feared than loved," but the Left doesn't fear Trump at all. These riots could be shut down overnight and thousands arrested, but it isn't happening.

    What the Left fears is that they will not have the power that they think they are entitled to. That means they fear the election itself. Trump has done nothing to them. The only reason they hate him is because he is a proxy for the white male voter whom they want to liquidate.

    What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America. If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it's Game On -- riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Almost Missouri, @RadicalCenter, @Corvinus

    “What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election…”

    What is probably going to happen is that Trump, if he loses, will double down on his claim that the election was stolen, but if he wins, will pronounce that the election was not fraudulent.

    “and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America.”

    I just love the smell of hyperbole.

    “If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On — riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365.”

    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right…

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus asked:


    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right…
     
    Well... I grew up "across the river" from Illinois, in St. Louis, resulting in our gettingt a fair amount of coverage of Illinois politics.

    So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked. We also figured that it was just normal after you had served as Illinois governor that you went to jail, since that seemed to be the norm.

    If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections, I suggest you read the most recent NY Post expose.

    Yeah, yeah, I know the Post is not a Deep State organ, so it means nothing. And Trump really was a Russian asset. And Jews eat Christian babies. So they say.

    I think the term is "blood libel." And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.

    Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  156. So you’re saying blah blah blah

    No, Reg. That’s what you are saying.

    Reagan was a figurehead. How much he understood of what went on during the election campaign in ’80 is hard to say, but I certainly wouldn’t argue that he was in charge, or that it was his idea to stir up unrest against the Shah, bring in the Ayatollah, bribe the Iranians to delay release of the hostages, and fatally undermine the Carter presidency with the crisis, so that either Bush or Reagan would be elected in 1980.

    The indelible sign of an illegal quid pro quo was the timing of the release of the hostages just minutes after Reagan was inaugurated. Obviously, a sleazy deal had been made behind the scenes, for there could be no other reason for the Iranians to release the hostages after 444 days at just that moment when Reagan first took office.

  157. @Jim Don Bob
    @PhysicistDave

    How is your daughter doing, PD?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Jim Don Bob asked me:

    How is your daughter doing, PD?

    Thanks for asking.

    UCLA has finally backed down on their position that our daughter cannot present evidence showing she is completely innocent unless she shares personal medical records with the thug who assaulted and injured her.

    They are, however, sticking by their position that if a woman who is being assaulted and battered engages in any self-defense whatsoever, the victim is guilty of assault! Our daughter tried to hold the attacker’s sleeves to stop the assault, and UCLA has explicitly claimed that this specific action makes our daughter guilty of assault.

    Their position is of course in violation of multiple state and federal laws, ranging from Title IX to the definition of assault in CA law going back to the 1870s (the whole thing was violent retaliation for my daughter reporting a Title IX violation against her). Under the law, a number of UCLA administrators should spend up to ten years in federal prison (18 USC 241).

    Our problem is how to get the legal system to take appropriate actions against UCLA: the LA City Attorney is of course in bed with the University, and federal prosecutors pick and choose which cases to take quite arbitrarily.

    Our daughter just wants it to all go away, but I think we are at the point that she needs to go to the national media.

    After all, for a university to brazenly take the open position that a woman who is being assaulted cannot defend herself by any means whatsoever, no matter how restrained, is even more shocking than the Harvey Weinstein revelations or the Chanel Miller scandal at Stanford.

  158. @Corvinus
    @Dr. X

    "What is probably going to happen is that the Left is going to steal the election..."

    What is probably going to happen is that Trump, if he loses, will double down on his claim that the election was stolen, but if he wins, will pronounce that the election was not fraudulent.

    "and then proceed to abolish white, male, heterosexual America."

    I just love the smell of hyperbole.

    "If, by the grace of God, Trump pulls off another narrow victory they will simply refuse to accept the result and then it’s Game On — riots, arson, and killings 24-7-365."

    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right...

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Corvinus asked:

    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right…

    Well… I grew up “across the river” from Illinois, in St. Louis, resulting in our gettingt a fair amount of coverage of Illinois politics.

    So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked. We also figured that it was just normal after you had served as Illinois governor that you went to jail, since that seemed to be the norm.

    If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections, I suggest you read the most recent NY Post expose.

    Yeah, yeah, I know the Post is not a Deep State organ, so it means nothing. And Trump really was a Russian asset. And Jews eat Christian babies. So they say.

    I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.

    Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked."

    Who is this "we"? Dates? Times? Specific locations? Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians, both left and right. But if you are going to make that claim that this "we" witnessed it firsthand, you ought to be able to supply the required evidence.

    "If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections..."

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.

    "I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war."

    Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.

    "Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country."

    You mean the radicals on both sides.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  159. @PhysicistDave

    “It’s kind of surreal,” Johnson, 23, said. In liberal California, she had “never met a Trump supporter.”
     
    Oh, she's met us: we just do not want to be killed for expressing our opinions in public.

    I have a kid at UCLA. According to my kid, there are lots of students there who are not PC leftists, but they manage to find each other through little hints of lack of political correctness, and then realize they can speak freely in private. Kinda like the old Soviet Union. By the way, the sane students include Asians, blacks, and Hispanics, as well as whites.

    Similarly, here in Sacramento, my wife and I do not dare to put a Trump sign on our lawn lest we get a brick (or worse) through our window, and Sacramento is not nearly as far left as LA or the Bay Area.

    Funny thing is, neither I nor my wife nor our student at UCLA are fanatical Trumpians: we could all go on at length as to why the Donald is far from perfect. But merely saying in public, "I think Biden is worse than Trump"? Nah, we value our physical safety.

    Which does raise an interesting question. On domestic policy, Trump is not that far from JFK. On foreign policy, he is not that far from George McGovern. Trump is a moderate, maybe a moderate liberal, by historical standards.

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    But why do so many ordinary citizens hate the man? As far as I can see, Trump is a nicer fellow than Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen, neither of whom inspired mass hatred.

    So, why is he so hated?

    Maybe it has nothing to do with the human being Donald Trump and is really just a form of displacement of their enormous hatred and contempt for the American working class?

    Replies: @Escher, @Jim Don Bob, @Ben tillman, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Harry Baldwin, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Charlotte, @Clyde

    I get why the Deep State hates Trump: he is not fully on board for their little imperialist adventures.

    China too/ Trump is anti-China and too many of our elites have profitable schemes running with China. All the peasantry like buying cheap_Chinese stuff too. I am guilty as charged due to liking Harbor Freight. I will be going to my local Harbor Freight in a day or two.

    What a mad situation your daughter is in!

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  160. @Bill P
    @Ben tillman

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    I grew up urban Catholic, and trust me we didn't need Jews to screw up our own communities. I am sick to death of Christians blaming their own shortcomings on Jews. I know Jews also like to blame their problems on outsiders, but that's their problem, not mine. At least, it wouldn't be my problem if my own people learned how to behave themselves.

    Now we've got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews' fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we're some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    Stop making excuses for white trash.

    Replies: @Anonymousse, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman

    Hey, genius, do you want to fight them, too?

    What does that even mean?

    Now we’ve got white gentile commies openly attacking us on the street on behalf of black criminals, and you want to blame Jews for that? If it really is Jews’ fault because we fell for what they said hook, line and sinker, then we’re some grade A morons out here, not worth defending.

    That is just plain stupid. Everyone can be victimized. That fact obviously cannot have any implications for anything.

  161. @Alden
    @Sparkon

    Please cite the exact law Regean violated. I don’t mean general terms, but the exact USC and sections. And don’t cite a Wikipedia article that uses general terms. If you claim someone violated a law, cite the exact Law.

    Then explain exactly what Regean did to violate the exact USC.

    Replies: @Sparkon

    The “exact law” Reagan, Bush, Casey, and accomplices violated is known as the Logan Act, or U.S. Code 953, which I have copied and pasted below from Cornel Law School’s online Legal Information Institute. In essence, the law states it is a felony for a private U.S. citizen to negotiate with a foreign government. Wikipedia describes it this way:

    The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. […] Violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

    After the U.S. hostages were seized in Iran, Pres. Carter froze both Iranian assets and shipments of military spare parts to Iran.

    Barbara Honegger’s allegations in her book October Surprise have been verified by Ari Ben-Menashe and Jamshid Hashemi, establishing independently from multiple sources, that a deal was made between the Reagan-Bush camp and the Iranians to delay release of the 52 American hostages until after the election. In return, the Iranians would receive embargoed spare parts for its military aircraft.

    U.S. Code Title 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE Part I. CRIMES Chapter 45. FOREIGN RELATIONS Section 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments

    18 U.S. Code § 953.

    Private correspondence with foreign governments

    Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

  162. @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus asked:


    More like the supporters of each side will have been primed to believe that the election was stolen. Gee, I wonder who would be right…
     
    Well... I grew up "across the river" from Illinois, in St. Louis, resulting in our gettingt a fair amount of coverage of Illinois politics.

    So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked. We also figured that it was just normal after you had served as Illinois governor that you went to jail, since that seemed to be the norm.

    If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections, I suggest you read the most recent NY Post expose.

    Yeah, yeah, I know the Post is not a Deep State organ, so it means nothing. And Trump really was a Russian asset. And Jews eat Christian babies. So they say.

    I think the term is "blood libel." And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.

    Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked.”

    Who is this “we”? Dates? Times? Specific locations? Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians, both left and right. But if you are going to make that claim that this “we” witnessed it firsthand, you ought to be able to supply the required evidence.

    “If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections…”

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.

    “I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.”

    Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.

    “Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.”

    You mean the radicals on both sides.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote to me:


    Who is this “we”? Dates? Times? Specific locations?
     
    Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people! After all, you yourself admitted:

    Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians...
     
    Precisely.

    Corvinus also wrote:

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.
     
    Who tend to be Dems. There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts.

    There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power. The GOP tends to attract leaders who view politics as a hobby or as an act of noblesse oblige (calling Willard Romney!).

    And so the Republicans tend to be guys who are expected and expect themselves to lose like gentlemen -- again, like sweet Willard.

    Even Tricky Dick Nixon refused to drag the country through a drawn-out fight over the 1960 election that he may well have won. He may not have been a gentleman, but his party expected him to act like one.

    The occasional Republican who is not willing to play the game of gracious loser -- Joe McCarthy or Donald Trump -- is treated as Hitler reincarnated.

    The feisty or obviously crooked Dems -- Truman, "Boss" Daly -- are at worst viewed as "colorful."

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave] “Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.”

    [Corvy] You mean the radicals on both sides.
     
    No, I do not. Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left? If you do, you are the first person I have seen who believes that!

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave]:“I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.”

    [Corvy]:Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.
     
    Read Michael Lind's current book, The New Class War. He is one of your guys -- an advocate for old-time Truman/JFK Democracy.

    This is not going to end well.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  163. @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    Salon:


    Vince Vaughn has company: 10 unexpectedly pro-gun celebrities

    KALI HOLLOWAY
    JUNE 5, 2015

    This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

    ******
    3. Steven Spielberg. This one’s a bit of a doozy, since for many conservative types, Spielberg's name is synonomous with “Hollywood liberal." But a piece titled "Hollywood Liberal Gun Nuts" by Steve Sailer could have some ammosexuals reconsidering their dartboard choices. Sailer points out that Spielberg isn’t just a gun owner, he’s a man in possession of an arsenal that would make Ted Nugent proud. Quoting from Joseph McBride’s 1997 biography of Spielberg, Sailer discusses Spielberg’s love of skeet shooting. In the 1970s, Spielberg often took recreational shots with his buddy John Milius, screenwriter of Apocalypse Now and a man who in a 1975 interview with Daily Variety stated, “I just absolutely hate liberals and people who are civilized.”

    “Milius...introduced Spielberg to the sport of skeet shooting, a male-bonding ritual for Milius and his fellow Hollywood gun enthusiasts...Spielberg, who had learned to shoot from his father while growing up in Arizona, still visits the Oak Tree Gun Club. ‘He’s a darn good shot,’ says club member [and late actor] Robert Stack, himself a world-class target shooter. ‘He has terrific reactions. Clay target shooting is a very subtle, highly sophisticated sport; it takes a lot of nerve. He shot some very good scores.’

    Sailer also points to a 2008 interview with actor-cum-flesh-and-blood Internet-meme Shia LaBeouf, in which the actor spoke glowingly of Spielberg’s vast stockade of weaponry (observed when the director invited LaBeouf over for a skeet shooting session). "He has the most ridiculous collection," LaBeouf told GQ Magazine. "He's got a gun for every movie he's made. He buys old Perazzi guns, Italian—beautiful, beautiful guns—and gets them engraved. It takes like a year. He's got the Jaws gun; he's got E.T. He let me shoot with the Jurassic Park gun. He just got his Saving Private Ryan back from the engraver's.”

    And if you’re having a hard time picturing Spielberg holding a rifle, the Internet can help you with that. Italian gun manufacturer Fabbri’s website includes a picture of the director, shotgun held high and smiling for the camera, on its page of satisfied customers.
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    I remember a big controversy many years ago about him CGI-removing the guns from ET in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings.

  164. @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "So, we saw Democrats stuffing ballot boxes as the equivalent of Catholics taking Communion: even little kids knew that was how politics worked."

    Who is this "we"? Dates? Times? Specific locations? Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians, both left and right. But if you are going to make that claim that this "we" witnessed it firsthand, you ought to be able to supply the required evidence.

    "If you really do not believe that Dems have a sneaky little habit of stealing elections..."

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.

    "I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war."

    Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.

    "Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country."

    You mean the radicals on both sides.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Corvinus wrote to me:

    Who is this “we”? Dates? Times? Specific locations?

    Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people! After all, you yourself admitted:

    Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians…

    Precisely.

    Corvinus also wrote:

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.

    Who tend to be Dems. There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts.

    There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power. The GOP tends to attract leaders who view politics as a hobby or as an act of noblesse oblige (calling Willard Romney!).

    And so the Republicans tend to be guys who are expected and expect themselves to lose like gentlemen — again, like sweet Willard.

    Even Tricky Dick Nixon refused to drag the country through a drawn-out fight over the 1960 election that he may well have won. He may not have been a gentleman, but his party expected him to act like one.

    The occasional Republican who is not willing to play the game of gracious loser — Joe McCarthy or Donald Trump — is treated as Hitler reincarnated.

    The feisty or obviously crooked Dems — Truman, “Boss” Daly — are at worst viewed as “colorful.”

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave] “Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.”

    [Corvy] You mean the radicals on both sides.

    No, I do not. Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left? If you do, you are the first person I have seen who believes that!

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave]:“I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.”

    [Corvy]:Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.

    Read Michael Lind’s current book, The New Class War. He is one of your guys — an advocate for old-time Truman/JFK Democracy.

    This is not going to end well.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people".

    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up. Furthermore, educated people demand proof. They are not taking for granted in this particular situation given how people can say anything on the Internet.

    "There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts."

    To the contrary, there was the corruption reached into Congressional Republicans with the the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, the Compromise of 1877, and the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

    "There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power."

    The reality is that there are members of BOTH political parties who care deeply about gaining and holding political power to the detriment of the citizenry and our system of government.

    "Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left?"

    That is a strawman. The radicals on the right and left are clearly delineated.

    "This is not going to end well."

    Such as?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  165. @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote to me:


    Who is this “we”? Dates? Times? Specific locations?
     
    Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people! After all, you yourself admitted:

    Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with the machinations of Illinois politicians...
     
    Precisely.

    Corvinus also wrote:

    More like corrupt politicians who try to manipulate our system.
     
    Who tend to be Dems. There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts.

    There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power. The GOP tends to attract leaders who view politics as a hobby or as an act of noblesse oblige (calling Willard Romney!).

    And so the Republicans tend to be guys who are expected and expect themselves to lose like gentlemen -- again, like sweet Willard.

    Even Tricky Dick Nixon refused to drag the country through a drawn-out fight over the 1960 election that he may well have won. He may not have been a gentleman, but his party expected him to act like one.

    The occasional Republican who is not willing to play the game of gracious loser -- Joe McCarthy or Donald Trump -- is treated as Hitler reincarnated.

    The feisty or obviously crooked Dems -- Truman, "Boss" Daly -- are at worst viewed as "colorful."

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave] “Your side is playing a very, very dangerous game to try to stay in control of this country.”

    [Corvy] You mean the radicals on both sides.
     
    No, I do not. Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left? If you do, you are the first person I have seen who believes that!

    Corvy also wrote:

    [Dave]:“I think the term is “blood libel.” And I am very much afraid it is leading to civil war.”

    [Corvy]:Maybe. Then again, perhaps not.
     
    Read Michael Lind's current book, The New Class War. He is one of your guys -- an advocate for old-time Truman/JFK Democracy.

    This is not going to end well.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people”.

    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up. Furthermore, educated people demand proof. They are not taking for granted in this particular situation given how people can say anything on the Internet.

    “There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts.”

    To the contrary, there was the corruption reached into Congressional Republicans with the the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, the Compromise of 1877, and the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

    “There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power.”

    The reality is that there are members of BOTH political parties who care deeply about gaining and holding political power to the detriment of the citizenry and our system of government.

    “Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left?”

    That is a strawman. The radicals on the right and left are clearly delineated.

    “This is not going to end well.”

    Such as?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote to me:


    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up.
     
    Really? Where is that law written down?

    Logically, you have to be wrong. Even little kids learn that no matter what someone says you can always keep saying "Why?": I learned this by age 3, which caused my Great Grandma to label me the "little question box."

    I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult.

    Corvy also wrote:

    the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

     

    You have it backwards: civil service "reform" was a con job to keep the current appointees in place -- they "grandfathered in" lots of the current appointees.

    A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a "civil service" system.

    "Civil service" is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you) which has to be overthrown.

    Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  166. @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "Corvy, my friend, it is not my obligation to provide a research paper to satisfy your criteria on matters that are taken for granted by educated people".

    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up. Furthermore, educated people demand proof. They are not taking for granted in this particular situation given how people can say anything on the Internet.

    "There is a reason that historians who are hardlyt GOP partisans refer to Tammany Hall, the Pendergast Machine, the Daly Machine, etc. without all that many Republican counterparts."

    To the contrary, there was the corruption reached into Congressional Republicans with the the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, the Compromise of 1877, and the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

    "There is a simple reason for this: the Democrats are the party of government. They attract people who really, really care about gaining and holding political power."

    The reality is that there are members of BOTH political parties who care deeply about gaining and holding political power to the detriment of the citizenry and our system of government.

    "Do you honestly think the looters and arsonsists are evenly split between Right and Left?"

    That is a strawman. The radicals on the right and left are clearly delineated.

    "This is not going to end well."

    Such as?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Corvinus wrote to me:

    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up.

    Really? Where is that law written down?

    Logically, you have to be wrong. Even little kids learn that no matter what someone says you can always keep saying “Why?”: I learned this by age 3, which caused my Great Grandma to label me the “little question box.”

    I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult.

    Corvy also wrote:

    the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

    You have it backwards: civil service “reform” was a con job to keep the current appointees in place — they “grandfathered in” lots of the current appointees.

    A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a “civil service” system.

    “Civil service” is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you) which has to be overthrown.

    Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "Really? Where is that law written down?"

    It's an expectation in discussion/debate.

    "Logically, you have to be wrong."

    Logically, I am correct in asking you to verify something.

    "I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult."

    Thanks for demonstrating the No True Scottsman fallacy.

    "You have it backwards: civil service “reform” was a con job to keep the current appointees in place — they “grandfathered in” lots of the current appointees. A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a “civil service” system."

    Corrected for accuracy--Civil service reform (no quotes), which is a product of representative government, was a process to ensure that qualified people based on merit would serve in government positions rather than politicians installing their friends for future considerations.

    “Civil service” is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you)** which has to be overthrown."

    **That is a false characterization.

    "Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens."

    Feel free to narrowly define what is a "productive citizen" merely because I am challenging your viewpoints, but that only demonstrates small-minded thinking.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  167. @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote to me:


    Actually, when you make a claim, it is your duty when requested to back it up.
     
    Really? Where is that law written down?

    Logically, you have to be wrong. Even little kids learn that no matter what someone says you can always keep saying "Why?": I learned this by age 3, which caused my Great Grandma to label me the "little question box."

    I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult.

    Corvy also wrote:

    the Stalwarts faction led by Roscoe Conkling who bitterly opposed to civil service reform, advocating instead the old patronage system of political appointments.

     

    You have it backwards: civil service "reform" was a con job to keep the current appointees in place -- they "grandfathered in" lots of the current appointees.

    A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a "civil service" system.

    "Civil service" is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you) which has to be overthrown.

    Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Really? Where is that law written down?”

    It’s an expectation in discussion/debate.

    “Logically, you have to be wrong.”

    Logically, I am correct in asking you to verify something.

    “I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult.”

    Thanks for demonstrating the No True Scottsman fallacy.

    “You have it backwards: civil service “reform” was a con job to keep the current appointees in place — they “grandfathered in” lots of the current appointees. A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a “civil service” system.”

    Corrected for accuracy–Civil service reform (no quotes), which is a product of representative government, was a process to ensure that qualified people based on merit would serve in government positions rather than politicians installing their friends for future considerations.

    “Civil service” is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you)** which has to be overthrown.”

    **That is a false characterization.

    “Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens.”

    Feel free to narrowly define what is a “productive citizen” merely because I am challenging your viewpoints, but that only demonstrates small-minded thinking.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote to me:


    Thanks for demonstrating the No True Scottsman fallacy.
     
    The "No True Scottsman fallacy" is itself a fallacy. It makes perfectly good sense for me to say that no true piece of gold will have the wrong density. Or that no true physicist would be ignorant of F=ma.

    Theree is such a plethora of counter-examples that I find it amazing that anyone still quotes the "No True Scottsman fallacy" fallacy. Of course, I suppose that no intelligent person does (yes, yes, I know -- The No True Scottsman fallacy!).

    Corvinus also wrote:

    It’s an expectation in discussion/debate.
     
    So, let's apply your own rule to you: proof please!

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Logically, I am correct in asking you to verify something.
     
    No, your principle leads to an infinite regress. Discussions must ultimately be based on something not requiring proof. Elementary.

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Corrected for accuracy–Civil service reform (no quotes), which is a product of representative government, was a process to ensure that qualified people based on merit would serve in government positions rather than politicians installing their friends for future considerations.
     
    Proof please!

    You didn't know that it was used to "grandfather in" current political appointees?

    Corvinus also wrote:

    **That is a false characterization.
     
    Proof please!

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Feel free to narrowly define what is a “productive citizen” merely because I am challenging your viewpoints, but that only demonstrates small-minded thinking.
     
    Proof please!

    By the way, haven't I ever told you that I am calling you a non-productive citizen not because of this current discussion but because this has been my judgment of you for years based on your past confessions that you are involved in the public-education scam?
  168. @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    "Really? Where is that law written down?"

    It's an expectation in discussion/debate.

    "Logically, you have to be wrong."

    Logically, I am correct in asking you to verify something.

    "I know you push nonsense like that as a cheap way of winning an argument. But it is still nonsense, obvious to any mature adult."

    Thanks for demonstrating the No True Scottsman fallacy.

    "You have it backwards: civil service “reform” was a con job to keep the current appointees in place — they “grandfathered in” lots of the current appointees. A democracy follows the spoils system. An oligarchy has a “civil service” system."

    Corrected for accuracy--Civil service reform (no quotes), which is a product of representative government, was a process to ensure that qualified people based on merit would serve in government positions rather than politicians installing their friends for future considerations.

    “Civil service” is one of the main bulwarks of the verbalist overclass (people like you)** which has to be overthrown."

    **That is a false characterization.

    "Which reminds me: when you start whining here about not being able to find any job and how you are starving, we will know we are making progress in destroying the verbalist overclass and returning the country to its productive citizens."

    Feel free to narrowly define what is a "productive citizen" merely because I am challenging your viewpoints, but that only demonstrates small-minded thinking.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Corvinus wrote to me:

    Thanks for demonstrating the No True Scottsman fallacy.

    The “No True Scottsman fallacy” is itself a fallacy. It makes perfectly good sense for me to say that no true piece of gold will have the wrong density. Or that no true physicist would be ignorant of F=ma.

    Theree is such a plethora of counter-examples that I find it amazing that anyone still quotes the “No True Scottsman fallacy” fallacy. Of course, I suppose that no intelligent person does (yes, yes, I know — The No True Scottsman fallacy!).

    Corvinus also wrote:

    It’s an expectation in discussion/debate.

    So, let’s apply your own rule to you: proof please!

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Logically, I am correct in asking you to verify something.

    No, your principle leads to an infinite regress. Discussions must ultimately be based on something not requiring proof. Elementary.

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Corrected for accuracy–Civil service reform (no quotes), which is a product of representative government, was a process to ensure that qualified people based on merit would serve in government positions rather than politicians installing their friends for future considerations.

    Proof please!

    You didn’t know that it was used to “grandfather in” current political appointees?

    Corvinus also wrote:

    **That is a false characterization.

    Proof please!

    Corvinus also wrote:

    Feel free to narrowly define what is a “productive citizen” merely because I am challenging your viewpoints, but that only demonstrates small-minded thinking.

    Proof please!

    By the way, haven’t I ever told you that I am calling you a non-productive citizen not because of this current discussion but because this has been my judgment of you for years based on your past confessions that you are involved in the public-education scam?

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