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From the New York Times news section;

Gun Violence Spikes in N.Y.C., Intensifying Debate Over Policing

By Ashley Southall and Neil MacFarquhar
June 23, 2020

It has been nearly a quarter century since New York City experienced as much gun violence in the month of June as it has seen this year.

The city logged 125 shootings in the first three weeks of the month, more than double the number recorded over the same period last year, police data show. …

Yet, New York City is still quite safe compared to more typical big cities like Chicago, that New York’ 125 shootings in the first 3 weeks of June is barely higher than the 110 shot (at last count) in Chicago over the weekend. Heck, Chicago had 41 more shootings on Monday.

“You have to go back to 1996 to have a worse start of June,” Michael LiPetri, the chief of crime control strategies, said in an interview on Monday.

The rising toll of gun violence has become part of a contentious debate over the future of policing in the wake of mass protests against police brutality. Police unions and their supporters have issued shrill warnings that the city was slipping into a high-crime era reminiscent of the early 1990s.

The city is not alone. Shootings are on the rise in other big cities across the country, including Chicago and Minneapolis, a trend that some conservatives have seized on to argue against the recent demands of protesters to cut police budgets and rein in officers.

It’s almost as if Black Lives Matter’s local political victories tend to lead to a lot of Black Lives Splattered by other other blacks.

… Other cities are seeing similar violence: In Chicago, more than 100 people were shot over the weekend, the most in a single weekend since 2012, and 14 died. That carnage came just weeks after 24 people were killed among 85 people shot over the Memorial Day weekend.

No, that was the next weekend in Chicago. George Floyd was killed on Memorial Day, so his grieving mourners didn’t start shooting each other enmass until later.

In Minneapolis, police said that 111 people have been shot in the four weeks since the death of George Floyd, a black man who was killed in police custody, sparked nationwide protests.

Nationally, homicide rates were already rising in 64 large American cities for the first three months of 2020 over the previous three years, but on average the pandemic caused them to stall briefly, before ticking up again in May, said Richard Rosenfeld, a criminologist at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. Rosenfeld is also a co-author of a study about homicide rates during the pandemic to be released Thursday by Arnold Ventures, a philanthropy focused on criminal justice and other issues.

In New York, there were 166 murders through June 21, up from 134 over the same period last year, the police said.

Some of that increase can be attributed to both the strain of the pandemic and the recent unrest, although the primary reason cited by criminologists was the advent of summer — traditionally a high-crime season because people are outside for longer and tempers flare in the heat.

As you’ll recall, in 2019 summer was called off, so murders didn’t increase.

In New York, the police have linked the rise in gun violence to a bail law enacted this year, which limited judges’ ability to keep people in jail before trial if they had been arrested on certain charges, as well as the release of thousands of people from jail and prison to help curb coronavirus. Chief LiPetri said 17 percent of shootings involved people on probation or parole.

Even veteran observers of the city’s crime trends viewed the jump in New York City as remarkable.

“I have been studying this for a long time. I have never seen that much of an increase ever,” said Christopher Herrmann, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice who once analyzed crime statistics for the New York City Police Department.

Mr. Hermann said the spike in shootings likely stemmed from a “combination of warmer weather, Covid cabin fever and the traditional gun violence that we see in June, July and August.”

Some criminologists said there is a precedent for crime rising after unrest over police killings.

Homicides rose nationally in the aftermath of the unrest ignited by the 2014 killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. It went up 15 to 20 percent in the largest cities before subsiding again after two years, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

Nationally, murders went up 22.9% during Obama’s last two years in office, following Ferguson and the birth of Black Lives Matter in August 2014. It’s not that hard to remember the right number.

 
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  1. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    If killing blacks is what police work is about, blacks do a great job policing one another.

    • LOL: Hypnotoad666
  2. The shootings are understandable. 400 years of oppression will do that. Or, uh, maybe without oppression, because they act the same way under every other system.

    This new aggression needs to be encouraged in the lily White areas of New England. It’s about time Blacks gave the good citizens a taste of what they’ve imposed on the rest us.

    Karen’s cry a lot, and that amuses them. Sometimes Karens look like they’re going through a psychological breakdown as the Blacks swarm and often attack them. Now, it’s important the White males and females submissively take their public shaming. Their shoulders will be stooped, some of their dreams forever shattered. It’s called progress.

    When we see upper class women trembling and incoherent, in need of psychiatric care because of the personal attacks, insults and humiliation … well, we’ll know NYC is getting real diversity.

    It’s a new religion see. The CEO of Chick fil a is polishing Black shoes in public.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jim Don Bob
    , @Reg Cæsar
  3. The scary thing is, they might really not know why this is happening.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @PSR
  4. Wilkey says:

    Gun Violence Spikes in N.Y.C., Intensifying Debate Over Policing

    I believe the word they were looking for was “ending,” as in “Gun Violence Spikes in NYC, Ending Debate Over Policing.”

    But they’re just stupid urinalists. It’s unrealistic to expect them to know anything.

  5. I read the NYT article on the shootings in New York. The only time the word “black” was used was to describe George Floyd. No mention, that is, of the race of any of the shooters or the victims. For journalism of that sort, no abuse is too strong.

    • Replies: @Ed
    , @Bugg
    , @Known Fact
  6. Okay, but how many of the increased shootings were of the Defund-the-Police types and how many were of supporters of law and order? In the case of the former, this is the situation they were—and still are—demanding. They forfeited standing to complain. In the case of the latter, they correctly looked ahead, and were filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, they seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood”.

  7. El Dato says:

    The oilyness reaches levels of the Völkischer Beobachter explaining the well-managed tactical retreat from Stalingrad.

    • Replies: @Ulysses J. Mysterio
  8. Meanwhile, this New York State Assembly wants to defund the police.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  9. Better Every Day!

    Getting Better?

    Mmmmm…maybe not???

    We’re FUCKED.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  10. Back in 2008, an article was written about how Bill Clinton was keeping the company of three ultra-wealthy men.

    1. Financier Jeffrey Epstein
    2. Hollywood Mogul Steve Bing
    3. Businessman Ron Burkle

    All of these men had access to their own private jets and, more important, access to prostitutes……

    Apparently, all of the men were good friends and formed their own unique social circle.

    See below.

    https://nypost.com/2015/02/14/bill-clintons-libido-threatens-to-derail-hillary-again/

    It was Bill’s close relationships with Burkle and Epstein, however, that were Hillary’s true threat. In an exposé published in Vanity Fair’s July 2008 issue, Todd Purdum — husband of Bill’s former White House press secretary Dee Dee Myers — wrote of the former president’s depraved, “motley crew” of wealthy hangers-on and enablers.

    Clinton had been close with Burkle, a self-made billionaire, for well over a decade. Burkle, 62, had long kept his private plane stocked with girls as young as 19.

    Another member of their circle was Steve Bing, a wealthy playboy with a private jet.

    After Bill Clinton started hanging out with Burkle, his jet got a very interesting name…..

    Burkle’s private plane came to be known within his circle as “Air F—k One.”

    “Air F-K One.”

    Bill Clinton was seen in the company of Steve Bing and a group of “gorgeous young women.” See below.

    Purdum wrote that an executive ran into Clinton, Bing and a gaggle of gorgeous young women in an elevator in Manhattan. He was shocked to see an ex-president in such company. “I don’t know what the guy was doing,” he reportedly said, “but it was so clear that it was just no good.”

    Epstein, as you know, committed “suicide” last year.

    What about Steve Bing? According to the media, he just committed “suicide.”

    Why did he “kill himself?” According to the media, it was because the coronavirus-driven isolation causes him to feel “depressed.”

    What about Ron Burkle? Well, he’s alive, but his son…….

    TLDR Summary:

    -As far back as 2008, Bill Clinton started hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, Steve Bing, and Ron Burkle. All of these men were super rich and had access to prostitutes.
    -There was a lot of “innuendo” around Bill Clinton hanging around with such sexually sleazy guys.
    -All of these guys were close friends.
    -Last year, Epstein committed “suicide.” Early this year, Burkle’s son was found dead in a hotel room. Now Steve Bing has also committed “suicide.”

  11. I wonder what this graph (which Mr. Sailer has posted previously) will look like in a year or two.

  12. @JohnnyWalker123

    More interesting deaths in the news.

    Summary:

    -Epstein’s chef died in his sleep.
    -Florida detective who investigated Epstein died of a brief illness.
    -Epstein’s banker was found swinging from a rope.
    -Epstein’s butler died in jail.
    -Epstein committed suicide.

  13. @JohnnyWalker123

    Jumping out a window was the least he could do, after making “The Polar Express”.

    • LOL: Dr. Krieger
  14. @Redneck farmer

    Pretty much guaranteed that the MSM will blame it on Trump. As Steve says, Trump is president during this calamitous year but someone else was prez in 2017-19.

    As you’ll recall, in 2019 summer was called off, so murders didn’t increase.

    What’s the fuss about anyway? This crime wave is precisely what the democrats and their media have been demanding. They should get it, good and hard, but of course most of them live comfortably insulated lives.

    So the violence ends up being perpetrated upon the “rest of us”. Precisely what they want.

  15. @Clifford Brown

    Nice! I always knew that if Mama Cass danced a bit more she’d shed those extra pounds.

  16. @JohnnyWalker123

    You be careful. If you keep tying these threads together, the stress may cause you to become depressed, and, I dunno, suicidal.

  17. @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s revealed that Victoria’s Secret Owner Leslie Wexner and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak are accused of having sex with Epstein’s under aged prostitutes.

    Interestingly, Leslie Wexner gave Epstein a free mansion in New York City. Wexner also provided Epstein with over $1 billion in money.

    Here’s a picture of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak sneaking into Epstein’s house.

    Allen Dershowitz (who was Epstein’s lawyer) is accused of having sex with Epstein’s prostitute Virginia Giuffre.

    Here’s a picture of Giuffre with Prince Andrew (from the British Royal Family). Giuffre claims that Epstein forced her to have sex with Prince Andrew. She also claimed that Prince Andrew sweats a lot and is a bad dancer.

    Summary:

    Victoria’s Secret owner Leslie Wexner, Israeli PM Ehud Barak, ultra-famous lawyer Allen Dershowitz, and Prince Andrew are accused of having sex with Epstein’s prostitutes. However, Epstein committed “suicide.” So he’s not available for comment.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    , @El Dato
    , @Jonathan Mason
  18. Shootings are on the rise in other big cities across the country, including Chicago and Minneapolis, a trend that some conservatives have seized on to argue against the recent demands of protesters to cut police budgets and rein in officers.

    “Seized on” is the equivalent of “p0unced” in their crooked mouths.

    Maybe I missed it, but have they ever said “some liberals (or progressives) have seized on”? I could have blinders on, but I always seize on these phrases as proof that journalists are scum.

  19. Tom-in-VA says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s like the scene in “Goodfellas” when Tommy Conway cuts all his ties to the Lufthansa heist.

  20. Ed says:
    @Tono Bungay

    NYT is edited for anything that could be considered as racism. This is done either explicitly or implicitly via a heckler’s veto possessed by their black journalists. So describing a criminal as black would be a no-no.

  21. Steve often says that the NYT and other newspaper bury the real story deep paragraph 11 or 12, and often in coded language. That’s definitely the case here with these paragraphs:

    Some criminologists said there is a precedent for crime rising after unrest over police killings.

    Homicides rose nationally in the aftermath of the unrest ignited by the 2014 killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. It went up 15 to 20 percent in the largest cities before subsiding again after two years, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

    But why would does the NYT even bother reporting the last two paragraphs? If they have an agenda to obfuscate the cause of the increase in crimes, then why mention the criminologists at all?

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  22. mousey says:

    Could be part of the criminal elements consolidating or using all the drugs pilfered from drug stores. I read something attributing similar events to this in Baltimore a while ago. Lot of money involved as well as people getting high on whatever they stole.

  23. Bugg says:
    @Tono Bungay

    The race of offenders is NEVER mentioned in newspaper, TV and other media reports of crimes unless it happens to be a white guy. That has been a given for a very long time.

  24. Bugg says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Implied in the Netflix Epstein doc Epstein had blackmailed Wexner by engaging in gay sex acts with him, and threatened to expose Wexner was in fact gay. Epstein is seen being asked as much in a deposition and refusing to answer. Not entirely crazy to think Victoria’s Secret being a closet case might be bad for business.

    By every account all of Epstein’s properties were brothels with cameras everywhere. Somebody has that footage. The only explanation that makes sense is Epstein being a Mossad front to blackmail American pols and businessmen. His rise from quant guy at Bear Stearns to hedge fund billionaire has a lot of holes that remain unexplained. Netflix focused on the women, but barely discussed this. Also explains why Ghislaine Maxwell is free as a bird living in Paris. Recall the media freaked out this week about US Attorney for SDNY Geoffrey Berman being removed, but this was his case, and he has fucked it from beginning to end.

  25. When you hack 600 cops from your homicide investigations unit, this just may be the result…

  26. @Bugg

    “Geoffrey Berman being removed, but this was his case, and he has fucked it from beginning to end”

    Not the only one doing that in l’affaire Epstein.

    Berman … is that a Scottish name ?

  27. I’m shocked! Shocked to hear there is crime in the Naked City. There’s a reason why ChiTown is known as the Second City … NYC unleashed will blow past them in no time.

  28. @Tono Bungay

    An ABC report listed a laundry list of possible causes for the national uptick in shootings — with black-generated mayhem escaping mention once again. Oh and I love the NYT’s use of “shrill” to characterize police warnings about rising crime

    • Replies: @Ed
  29. NYC now cancels its famed November marathon, the city’s biggest annual tourism event. Worried about “second wave” but maybe also about naive white visitors getting robbed, beaten and worse. Stick a fork in the Big Apple, it’s done

  30. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    These are some good-looking birds.

  31. Anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor

    I agree. I want nothing more, politically, than to see the upper classes start to get impacted by the policies they’ve promoted. Nothing is going to change in this country until UMC whites change their mindset. The other ethnic groups don’t have enough power to do anything without the sanction of brainwashed lefties.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  32. JMcG says:

    It’s only a matter of time until a new Zebra killer or killers gets going. If one hasn’t already. Be armed whenever you can.

  33. @RichardTaylor

    The CEO of Chick fil a is polishing Black shoes in public.

    That really stinks after all the support they got over gay bashing.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  34. It is likely that many household incomes are down because of the COVID-19 situation.

    New York is a high wage area and the stimulus payments and $600 per week unemployment may not go far for people who have well-paying jobs at places like airports, hotels, restaurants, at a time when international travel is still largely shut down.

    This in turn may lead to an increase in criminal activity out of desperation, leading to more shootings.

    What we would really need to understand what is going on in New York is a breakdown on where the excess shootings and murders are coming from. Are they:

    1. “Drug deals gone wrong.”
    2. Domestic violence gone too far due to people being cooped up together.
    3. Robbery/home invasion murders.
    4. Bank robberies gone wrong.
    5. Gang warfare/organized crime/retribution killings for showing lack of “respect”.
    6. Suicides or murder/suicides, or suicides by cop.
    7. Justifiable homicides.
    8. Murders that involve use of illegal drugs, intoxicants, alcohol, mixed with arguments about gambling.

    Another shooting took place in the Bronx around 3:45 a.m. on Alexander Avenue. A 42-year-old woman was shot in the leg while trying to run away from a gunman.

    Police say the woman drove herself to the hospital.

    Is New York now more dangerous than Beirut or the major cities of Mexico and Venezuela?

    • Replies: @fish
    , @Jack D
  35. Barnard says:

    It doesn’t seem to be having any impact on NY voters, at least in the House primaries. AOC crushed Wall Street back former CNBC host Michelle Caruso-Cabrera 72%-19% in her primary. Westchester county’s own Eliot Engel is getting trounced by a pro-BLM teacher named Jamaal Bowman 61-36%. Although all the votes aren’t in yet, I don’t see any way Engel can win. The idea that these voters just want “good jobs” got flushed down the toilet in New York.

  36. Some of that increase can be attributed to both the strain of the pandemic and the recent unrest, although the primary reason cited by criminologists was the advent of summer — traditionally a high-crime season because people are outside for longer and tempers flare in the heat.

    Mr. Hermann said the spike in shootings likely stemmed from a “combination of warmer weather, Covid cabin fever and the traditional gun violence that we see in June, July and August.”

    Who says the Left wants to destroy all our traditions??

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  37. @JohnnyWalker123

    Summary:

    Victoria’s Secret owner Leslie Wexner, Israeli PM Ehud Barak, ultra-famous lawyer Allen Dershowitz, and Prince Andrew are accused of having sex with Epstein’s prostitutes. However, Epstein committed “suicide.” So he’s not available for comment.

    I do believe that Epstein committed suicide, because, based on my own experience inside prisons, I cannot believe that even in a federal prison in New York that assassins could enter a prison, get into someone’s cell, kill them, then leave and escape the facility and never be recorded on closed circuit cameras at any point between entering the building and leaving it, and because many gates and doors and gated sally ports are electronically operated from a master control point with surveillance cameras.

    I do think that Prince Andrew must be lying about having sex with Virginia Roberts, but the more interesting question is did he know that Epstein was paying her to have sex with Andrew, or was Andrew paying Epstein or being blackmailed by Epstein.

    On a point of law, much has been made of Roberts being 17 at the time when she allegedly was trafficked to Prince Andrew in London, when the age of consent in the UK is 16. However the age of consent is not 16 for acts of prostitution, it is 18, so the question of what Andrew knew and when he knew it could be significant, because trafficking a minor internationally for purposes of prostitution is a pretty dire offense.

    There would also be interesting questions to be asked about the custody of V. Roberts as a minor. Normally a minor female would not be allowed to pass UK customs and immigration in the company of unrelated adults without some kind of documentation signed by the custodial parent. Some people have proffered a theory that since the party arrived on a private jet, they would have been waved through without a proper examination of travel documents, but actually I would have thought that private jets arriving in Europe from the other side of the Atlantic would be subject to greater scrutiny–though I could be wrong, this is just conjecture.

  38. Grumpy says:

    Last night, in Madison, Wisconsin, protesters pulled down “Forward,” the statue of a woman (made by a woman sculptor for the 1893 world’s fair) that stood in front of the state capitol.

    They also pulled down a statue of Colonel Hans Christian Heg, a Norwegian immigrant who died fighting for the Union in the Civil War.

    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-tear-down-statues-punch-senator-set-small-fire-after-arrest-of-black-activist/article_8356b4c1-4dbf-52ff-9d5b-cadb98bf5356.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

  39. @JohnnyWalker123

    JW123,

    It’s long been a standard CIA practice to murder someone by dropping them from 70 feet up.

    Here’s the LA Times citing the declassified 1954 CIA manual on assassination:

    “The CIA’s involvement in planning assassinations goes back at least to 1954, when it prepared a manual for killings as part of a U.S.-run coup against the leftist government of Guatemala. The 19-page manual, which was declassified in 1997, makes chilling reading. “The essential point of assassination is the death of the subject,” it declares, noting that while it “is possible to kill a man with the bare hands … the simplest local tools are often much the most efficient means of assassination. A hammer, ax, wrench, screwdriver, fire poker, kitchen knife, lamp stand or anything hard, heavy and handy will suffice.”

    The agency’s manual recommends “the contrived accident” as the best way to dispose of someone. The most efficient accident … is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stairwells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve.” The manual suggests grabbing the victim by the ankles and “tipping the subject over the edge. … Falls before trains or subway cars are usually effective, but require exact timing.”

    A billionaire he may have been, but naive Steve Bing had no idea of that which his “friends” were capable.

    (Gives a whole new meaning to “jumping to a conclusion” . . .)

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  40. What the heck is “traditional gun violence?”

    In my orbit we have traditional holidays, traditional celebrations, even traditional meals. It wouldn’t occur to any of us to go out on, say, June 23rd and look for a reason to shoot at another person. When attempted murder rises to the level of a tradition, I’d say your society is seriously warped and wicked.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  41. the traditional gun violence that we see in June, July and August.

    I guess there’s at least one tradition that blacks respect.

  42. @JohnnyWalker123

    Why did he (Bing) “kill himself?” According to the media, it was because the coronavirus-driven isolation causes him to feel “depressed.”

    Your speculation may have been overtaken by events. It seems likely that he had dissipated his fortune with riotous living and poor investments and was now bankrupt, or close to it. He may also have had a drug problem.

  43. Congratulations, the Ferguson effect has made the NYT.

  44. @JohnnyWalker123

    Damn, the Mossad agents must be exhausted from all the cleaning up they’ve done.

    • Replies: @Anon
  45. although the primary reason cited by criminologists was the advent of summer — traditionally a high-crime season because people are outside for longer and tempers flare in the heat.

    Crimes do go up in the summer, seemingly because the winter does cause people to stay inside more. It’s BS that it has anything to do with heat making people angry though. Most of those shootings in Chicago happened between about 11:00PM and 4:00AM. That is not the hot part of the day.

  46. @Jonathan Mason

    then leave and escape the facility and never be recorded on closed circuit cameras at any point between entering the building and leaving it

    And all those CCTV cameras just mysterious stopped working or else the footage just accidentally got deleted?

    And who says the perp would have to leave the facility? Aren’t there plenty of hitmen and murderers in prison?

    • Agree: Jefferson Temple
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  47. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I do think that Prince Andrew must be lying about having sex with Virginia Roberts, but the more interesting question is did he know that Epstein was paying her to have sex with Andrew, or was Andrew paying Epstein or being blackmailed by Epstein.

    None of the above. Epstein wanted to have rich and famous friends like the Prince so he would cultivate them with rides on his private jet and visits to his private islands and so on. Epstein also liked teenage girls and he would cultivate them with “gifts”. He and Maxwell would also make it known to these girls that female friends of Epstein should participate in sex acts with Epstein and his friends – that’s what friends do. This is not the same thing as prostitution. If you take a woman out to dinner now and then and give her gifts occasionally and if you also have sex with that woman, that does not make her a prostitute. Now the age and wealth disparity and the fact that these girls were of barely legal age makes the whole thing sort of distasteful but this is not the same thing as prostitution unless you think that all women who have sex with men are prostitutes. That is in fact what some feminists, especially Lesbian feminists think.

  48. fish says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Is New York now more dangerous than Beirut or the major cities of Mexico and Venezuela?

    I just thank god for Mayor DiBlasio and his bold leadership!

  49. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Is New York now more dangerous than Beirut or the major cities of Mexico and Venezuela?

    NY, no. NY is, despite the recent uptick, remarkably safe for an American big city. But Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc. – crime levels in those cities are in fact at 3rd world levels.

    I believe that Beirut is a pretty safe place nowadays. And much of the danger in Mexico is concentrated in certain border areas. There are major cities in Mexico that are quite safe also. Venezuela is a mess.

  50. PSR says:
    @Redneck farmer

    I don’t think it’s not knowing, it’s not caring. These hypocrites and political manipulators care more about being micro-aggressed against and, as Steve notes, worrying about their hair, than they care about human life.

  51. @Ginger bread man

    Plausible deniability. You can’t accuse them of “not reporting” it, it’s right there in black and white. All the news that’s fit to print. Just like they used to (I don’t follow them anymore) print “corrections” in the Saturday edition (least read) on page D13.

  52. @Bugg

    ” Not entirely crazy to think Victoria’s Secret being a closet case might be bad for business.”

    Exactamundo. No woman would buy clothing from a known fag.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @RadicalCenter
  53. Respectfully, please don’t say George Floyd was “killed.” The causation of his death is a matter of debate and bears directly on the pending criminal case.

    • Agree: Farenheit
  54. anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:

    From Tom Stoppard’s “The Real Thing,” the lead character attempts to explain to a woman why her lowbrow contemporary will NEVER be an adequate professional writer, owing to his genetics and upbringing:

    “This thing here, which looks like a wooden club, is actually several pieces of particular wood cunningly put together in a certain way so that the whole thing is sprung, like a dance floor. It’s for hitting cricket balls with. If you get it right, the cricket ball will travel 200 yards in four seconds, and all you’ve done is give it a knock, like knocking the top off a bottle of stout, and it makes a noise like a trout taking a fly [he clucks his tongue to make the noise]. What we’re trying to do is write cricket bats, so that when we throw up an idea and give it a little knock, it might … travel. What you have here is a cudgel, TRYING to be a cricket bat. And if you hit a ball with it, the ball will travel about 10 feet and you will drop the bat and dance about shouting, ‘Ouch!’ with your hands stuck in your armpits.”

    It’s likely our social/existential problem going forward is White people, who’s greatest minds invented our republic, are, within that context, “cricket bats,” while the imported people of African descent are too often, inherent “cudgels, TRYING to be a cricket bat.”

    Too many black people are simply not made for thriving in a modern form of government. This is why they get shot in the face so often, compared to other races, all over the world, but particularly in America. They’ll never understand why.

    So, deluded White people who keep trying to convert the African, go on wondering why their armpits hurt… all the time.

    • Agree: bomag
  55. anon[220] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I do believe that Epstein committed suicide, because, based on my own experience inside prisons, I cannot believe that even in a federal prison in New York that assassins could enter a prison, get into someone’s cell, kill them, then leave and escape the facility and never be recorded on closed circuit cameras at any point between entering the building and leaving it, and because many gates and doors and gated sally ports are electronically operated from a master control point with surveillance cameras.

    Seems legit.

  56. Jack D says:
    @James O'Meara

    I hope you are being sarcastic (one can never tell around here). Maybe 3/4 of male fashion designers (maybe even more) are gay and in recent decades openly gay. I made this number up so if Art Deco has information from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that says that only 49.4532% of fashion designers are gay, don’t bother.

    Not that Wexner was a fashion designer – he was a businessman. Under the Victoria’s Secret (and other Wexner business) model, the name of the designer was not important – what was important was the brand name. Victoria’s Secret designers are anonymous (and Wexner doesn’t have to pay them for their names).

  57. res says:

    It’s almost as if Black Lives Matter’s local political victories tend to lead to a lot of Black Lives Splattered by other other blacks.

    Does anyone know if it is possible to get historical (back to 2014) weekly shooting and murder statistics for Chicago from https://heyjackass.com/ ? From their site it looks like they have daily data back to 2009, but I don’t see any way to download it.

    It would be interesting to compare that data to Google Trends results for “Black Lives Matter” searches. Note that Google trends will give weekly results for 5 years of data or less (monthly for longer periods AFAICT). So it should be possible to stitch together the past five years with 2014 – 2016. I looked at through July since there is a peak which should make more accurate matching possible.

    Another idea would be to use the full HeyJackass! statistics to look at other correlations (weather, day of week/year, holidays, etc.).

    P.S. Funny image from their page.

    [MORE]

    • LOL: bomag
  58. @Dave Pinsen

    This unAmerican and antiAmerican prick doesn’t belong in our country, so I do not care what he has to say.

    As to the issue of economic policy itself, however:
    Certainly we would be wise to resist government ownership of enterprises generally, i.e. Socialism. But three exceptions come readily to mind if we are truly interested in stopping the ultra-rich from exploiting and impoverishing our people.

    First, would be an excellent idea to build a network of publicly owned factories to make generic medicines, vaccines, and common medical devices. They would be sold to US Citizens directly AT COST. Cut out Big Pharma and the other medical profiteers. No more random markups by doctors and hospitals for drugs or back braces, walkers, crutches, wheelchairs, and the like.

    Second, build a network of publicly owned factories to manufacture military equipment. Cut out the military manufacturers and contractors. Stop making taxpayers pay for their exorbitant executive compensation, their shareholder dividends, and their lobbying costs.

    Third, place our God-given natural resources under public ownership. Cut out the corporate energy profiteers. Use the proceeds from sale of OUR oil, gas, metals, and minerals to fund a universal basic income for all non-incarcerated US Citizens age 21 and over.

    Fourth, establish a public bank and lend to all non-incarcerated US Citizens at zero interest to refinance their debts. All mortgage, small-business, student, and vehicle debts except for people with household income in the top one percent. Liberate the people from the millstone of interest. (The alternative, an outright debt jubilee, is a lot more costly and extreme.)

    Finally, and more broadly, we could afford and manage a universal basic income and universal medical/dental insurance just fine … if we expel or partition our perpetual deadweight, the Africans, and end mass immigration.

    Just because it’s a disloyal tribal dothead calling for “socialism” in this instance, doesn’t mean that our system isn’t rigged in favor of the super-rich.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Dave Pinsen
  59. Ian Smith says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s like 2020 is a giant psy op to get us to forget Epstein’s getting Mossadered.

  60. @James O'Meara

    Sadly, millions of brainwashed American “women” have no problems buying clothes from sexual deviants. Hell, they don’t even have a problem with the misfits teaching pr counselling their own impressionable children,

  61. prosa123 says:
    @Known Fact

    New York is doing an extraordinarily poor job of recovering. Las Vegas gambling casinos have been open a couple of weeks, the Atlantic City casinos are reopening next week, Disney World in two weeks, meanwhile the New York Philharmonic and the Metropolitan Opera won’t reopen until next year, Broadway theaters haven’t officially announced but it looks very much like not until 2021 for them also, the big museums are saying maybe sometime after Labor Day but nothing firm, all in all the idea of snapping back from adversity seems to vanish.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Known Fact
  62. @Jack D

    Well said. But who cares what the bitter genetic-deadends think. Let them march, do their perversions, tend to their cats, and die without issue.

  63. Grumpy says:
    @Grumpy

    Update: The Oslo newspaper Aftenposten is reporting that the Madison statue of Norwegian-American Union Army Colonel Heg was not only pulled down, but also decapitated and dragged into a lake.

    https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/g75wl0/norskamerikaneren-kjempet-mot-slaveriet-i-natt-ble-statuen-av-ham-revet-halshugget-og-kastet-paa-elven?

  64. peterike says:
    @Jack D

    Jack, Jack, Jack, is there NO level of Jewish perfidy that you won’t find an excuse to cheerlead for?

    • Thanks: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anonymousse
  65. @Known Fact

    NY, NJ, and CT just announced mandatory 14-day quarantines for visitors from what they deem, “hotspot,” states.

    NY police have sanction to pull over over anyone with out of state plates.

    I bet everyone in the hospitality and tourism business in those states is just thrilled right now.

    Pretty ironic in light of the fact people from these states were fleeing en masse to avoid Beer flu lockdown à few months ago.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Buffalo Joe
  66. peterike says:
    @prosa123

    New York is doing an extraordinarily poor job of recovering.

    All those “brave” New Yorkers are cowering in fear like little girls because the Trump Virus might get them. It’s not a good look. And looks like the uber-Socialists are sweeping to victory across the board in elections. From bad to worse.

  67. @Barnard

    The idea that these voters just want “good jobs” got flushed down the toilet in New York.

    Why would they want, “good jobs,” when they already have, “great gibs?”

  68. @Paul Jolliffe

    You left out my favorite sentence!

    Persons who are morally squeamish should not attempt it.

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html

  69. @Grumpy

    Last night, in Madison, Wisconsin, protesters pulled down “Forward,” the statue of a woman (made by a woman sculptor for the 1893 world’s fair) that stood in front of the state capitol.

    White women, are you watching?

    • Replies: @fish
  70. a criminologist at the University of Missouri-St. Louis.

    Is this good, or bad? A branch campus isn’t that prestigious, but a this sounds like a well-placed speciality.

  71. @RichardTaylor

    This new aggression needs to be encouraged in the lily White areas of New England. It’s about time Blacks gave the good citizens a taste of what they’ve imposed on the rest us.

    New England didn’t impose the existence of blacks upon anybody. Some of their sea captains facilitated their introduction as an invasive species into America, but only to fulfill customer orders.

    There have always been twice as many blacks in this country as New Englanders:

    http://www.planning.ri.gov/documents/census/popcounts_est/new_england_historic_1810-2010.pdf

    For imposition, try the Sixteenth Amendement– not by, but upon New Englanders.

  72. Anon[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Krieger

    Naw, they still have to throw Bill and Hillary off a building. Those two being out of office, they’re of no use anymore and have potentially nasty things they can expose if they’re hauled into court by Trump.

  73. @Jack D

    If you take a woman out to dinner now and then and give her gifts occasionally and if you also have sex with that woman, that does not make her a prostitute.

    Yes it does.

    This is part of the problem, that people think behaving this way is just fine and dandy as long as we’re all consenting adults, undrunk, etc. Tell me where the line is with prostitution if getting goodies from a rich man in exchange for sex isn’t actual prostitution. Would you want your daughter doing it? Is it taxable or untaxable? Legal drugs may be transacted, but illegal ones?

    And no, lesbian feminists don’t care one way or another about women sleeping around (or men).
    That’s almost exclusively religious conservatives who care about the harm this all causes.

  74. Ed says:
    @Known Fact

    This crime wave will be deadlier as unlike before major media is committed to not “racializing” events. So there will be a whole segment of white urban liberals who will be unaware of what is going on until it’s too late or as the NYT shows today will simply accept becoming victims of black liberals.

  75. Thomas says:

    The city is instead leaning more heavily on nonprofits that employ “violence interrupters” — young men and women with past ties to gangs who intervene to try to stop street conflicts from escalating.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens with this trend, of cities relying on people with past involvement with gangs who have supposedly “gone straight.” Years ago, in southeast L.A. County, there was an outfit called “No Guns” that supposedly was doing this kind of work, on the local taxpayers’ dime, while its boss was basically the Mexican Mafia’s street-level shotcaller in that part of the state. There have been numerous other examples of crooks relying on connections to civil authority to further their activities.

    Even if these outfits are on the up-and-up, it will become painfully clear before long that trying to dea with armed criminal violence using unarmed social services-type outfits doesn’t work too well. There was an example of this in the homicide in Seattle’s “CHOP” over the weekend. The victim may have bled out because paramedics won’t go into an active shooting scene that hasn’t been secured by police. That’s likely an early indicator of how the proposals to replace police with some sort of slate of “hug-a-thug” social services will work out.

    • Replies: @anon
  76. Redman says:
    @Barnard

    Out of curiosity, what was the turnout? NYC generally has one of the least active voting populations. I’ve lived here most of my life and nobody ever talks about local politics. Most have no idea who their rep in congress is.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  77. @stillCARealist

    “Traditional gun violence” is when you come home from work early and unannounced and catch your ol’ lady in the massa bedroom boinging with some buck and you bust a cap into both of them.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  78. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Fourth, establish a public bank and lend to all non-incarcerated US Citizens at zero interest to refinance their debts. All mortgage, small-business, student, and vehicle debts except for people with household income in the top one percent. Liberate the people from the millstone of interest.

    Congratulations! You’re an obvious hard-core antisemite.

    Take your Jew-hating schemes elsewhere, thank you very much.

  79. Jack D says:
    @peterike

    Prince Andrew is Jewish? Who knew?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  80. fish says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    Why would they care….all this rioting has given them a serious case of the “gina tingles”.

  81. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    Government ownership is unnecessary or unhelpful for most of what you want:

    – Generic meds are already cheap.

    – The Soviets had government-owned military equipment manufacturers. They ended up spending a higher % of GDP on weapons than we did.

    – Natural resources on U.S. government territory are already owned by the government, no? That doesn’t obviate the need for engineering companies (which is what energy and mining companies are) to drill or mine for the resources. You could have state-owned company do it, like Petrobras in Brazil, but that lends itself to more corruption.

    Debt refinancing I’d put in a different category, but bear in mind that in order for a bank or other lending business to not go bust, the interest rate it charges has to be higher than its default rate. That’s why credit card interest rates are so high, not because it’s a conspiracy against common people.

    Really, the solution here is to raise wages and lower cost of living for average Americans, so they have less need to go into debt. Making zero interest borrowing available to them could have similar unintended effects as low interest, low down payment mortgages.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  82. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    This reply deserves to be added to the Talmud.

  83. @peterike

    I was wondering if I was actually reading someone’s weaselly attempt to justify underage prostitution. I guess you could put it down to that famously hyperactive in-group preference but I don’t think I’d ever try to excuse my cousins whoring out someone else’s teenage daughters…

    There’s a reason “Every. Single. Time.” is such a durable and instantly accessible meme.

  84. @Barnard

    Engel is getting trounced by a pro-BLM teacher ..

    Government workers, and lawyers, should be ineligible to serve in a legislature.

  85. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas

    As an aficionado of “The First 48”, blacks have smart phones and do social media. Half the homicides could be solved with cell phone records and Facebook. The cops use these resources extensively, but aren’t either the best at it or especially efficient.

    There is also enough video these days to provide plenty of circumstantial evidence that a suspect either was (or was not) in the area of a crime.

    The point being that a lot of policing either is or could be replaced with electronic sleuthing.

    And with suspect “hot lists”, the cops have got the correct “usual suspects”. They pretty much know who will be involved, either as a perp or victim.

    I doubt if any of this will reduce crime much or even that most people care that much. But there is plenty of room for soy boys to take over the electronic heavy lifting.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  86. ATBOTL says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    That place is not a normal prison. It’s an office building in a Baghdad “Green Zone” style complex that is cut off from the rest of Manhattan.

  87. @Dave Pinsen

    … in order for a bank or other lending business to not go bust, the interest rate it charges has to be higher than its default rate. That’s why credit card interest rates are so high…

    …and why they’re all based in South Dakota, even though they’re incorporated in Delaware?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  88. @prosa123

    That’s right. The plucky NYC showbiz ethos used to be “The show must go on,” but now everyone is in hiding, either voluntarily or by edict. Of course the show does go on for the left, the lawless and the public nuisances.

  89. @The Wild Geese Howard

    And of course the irony of the quarantine is that nobody wants to visit NY/NJ/CT right now — the only show currently playing is the looting, shooting and free-lance fireworks. Manhattanites can dine, outside, on 90-degree sidewalks, with buses, garbage trucks and the homeless adding to the al fresco ambiance.

    • LOL: bomag
  90. ATBOTL says:

    As if NYC was not dangerous enough these days, it looks like the BLM Pogrom is still claiming victims:

    Jamaal Bowman Claims Victory Over Eliot Engel, Is the New Star of New York Politics

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jamaal-bowman-claims-victory-over-eliot-engel-is-the-new-star-of-new-york-politics

    Engel is chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, where he wields significant influence and can ensure that radicals—like Omar, who was given a seat on the key panel, despite her support of BDS and anti-Semitic utterances—don’t advance an anti-Israel agenda there.

    Nor is Engel like many Democrats who oppose Israeli policies while still avowing their support of the country. Indeed, his positions resemble more those of the Likud Party than the Democrats or Republicans, making his continued tenure at Foreign Affairs a crucial matter for friends of the Jewish state.

    https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/317407/can-pro-israel-democrats-hold-off-the-next-aoc/

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  91. @Redman

    Turnout the last time deBlowsio got elected was 16% and probably most of those were city employees. In many places, the primary is the election.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  92. @Jim Don Bob

    That’s just good business practice: the C-suite at Chick-Fil-A knew that there was no downside to fag-bashing, because gays don’t buy very many fried chicken sandwiches and are unlikely to; gay-adjacent SJWs likewise.

    Alienating the fags risked a reaction from a trivial part of the Chick-FIl-A consumer base, so had no obvious downside. It was basically a free swing, and the mock outrage it generated (most of the outraged were people who don’t buy fried chicken) converted to free exposure of prejudices that align with people who eat a lot of fried chicken.

    If they refused to bend the knee to BLM, the business risk is much greater. It’s hard to imagine a chain more reliant on black expenditure than Chik-Fil-A – unless there’s a chain I don’t know about that sells fried chicken and watermelon.

    KEK.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Anonymousse
  93. @Jack D

    He and Maxwell would also make it known to these girls that female friends of Epstein should participate in sex acts with Epstein and his friends – that’s what friends do. This is not the same thing as prostitution. If you take a woman out to dinner now and then and give her gifts occasionally and if you also have sex with that woman, that does not make her a prostitute.

    I partially agree with you, but I think part of the problem is that at the higher echelons of society (or at least the most rich echelons), it is difficult to apply laws aimed at ordinary people, since the mandarins are sufficiently aware of the law to rely on a nod and a wink rather than a blatant offense of the type that might be caught by a police recording device.

    However, having said that, it has been claimed that Ms. Roberts stated that she had been paid 10,000 British pounds (or dollar equivalent) by Epstein for being such a good friend to Prince Andrew.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/teenage-sex-slave-virginia-roberts-claims-she-was-paid-10000-by-jeffrey-epstein-to-have-sex-with-9956338.html

    Speaking to the Mail, Ms Roberts makes no suggestion that Prince Andrew knew Epstein paid her for the alleged sexual services.

    “The Prince didn’t give me money with his own hands,” she said. “Jeffrey always took care of paying me after I ‘entertained’ his friends.”

    I don’t think she said exactly how she was paid, in what currency, and so on. No doubt she declared it as income from her massage business to the IRS and received a Form 1099 from Epstein.

    That seems like a pretty fine line to me. Of course only a court could determine whether this hanky-panky was in breach of some law in any particular jurisdiction,but speaking as what is legally known as a nonlawyer, I would say that taking a minor on a plane to another country and paying her a large sum of money after she had sex with a friend might look a bit suspicious, especially if you were a prude.

  94. @Kratoklastes

    Gays don’t like quality fast food? Who knew?

  95. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Howard, I believe that a judge ruled against Connecticut, or maybe it was Rhode Island, when that state instituted a policy of pulling over, essentially banning, cars from certain states. These libs are funny people, isn’t that “profiling?”

  96. @stillCARealist

    That’s almost exclusively religious conservatives who care about the harm this all causes.

    If ‘religious conservatives’ genuinely thought that the traditional “man pays for dinner” model was a source of harm, they had since 1492 to fix it. They didn’t: it was also their model (and they would have us believe that in the past, their women didn’t “put out”).

    It would also help if they lived by the values they’re so strident in proclaiming; the Bible Belt is also the Porn Subscription Belt; the Illegitimacy Belt; the Teen Motherhood Belt; the Pre-Marital Sex Belt; the Infidelity Belt; and the Divorce Belt… and Evangelical megachurch hucksters pastors are decloaked as gay tweakers (and/or paedophiles) at statistically greater rates than, say, atheists.

    Seems clear that it’s a retarded strategy to rely on objectively-ridiculous first-century fiction as the basis for a moral code.

    • Replies: @bomag
  97. @Lars Porsena

    And who says the perp would have to leave the facility? Aren’t there plenty of hitmen and murderers in prison?

    Yes, there are, but again, based on my experience of working in prisons, I find it pretty unlikely that a couple of inmates could sneak out of their cells in a Special Housing Unit during the night, get some keys to another inmate’s cell which was 15 feet away from the guards’ desk, go in and quietly kill him without waking up the guards, lock themselves back in their cells, then return a large bunch of keys back to the jailers from inside a locked cell without being noticed unless the correctional officers were in on the plot too.

    Too many people in the know to keep it quiet, and, also based on my experience of work in prisons, gross incompetence and negligence is way more common than deep conspiracies between inmates and staff to murder other inmates. The staff involved in the conspiracy would be far too afraid of being ratted out by the killers whom they had assisted. On the other hand, if they were just incompetent and negligent, it would be standard operating procedure to try to cover that up.

    Anyone who is interested should take a few minutes to read this:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/11/19/780794931/prosecutors-charge-correctional-officers-who-guarded-jeffrey-epstein-before-his-

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    , @Alden
  98. @stillCARealist

    still,…”if you take a woman out to dinner now and then and give her gifts occasionally and if you also have sex with that woman, that does not make her a prostitute.” Actually, that sounds like married life. But, make it read..”.give her gifts and have sex occasionally.”

  99. @Anon

    I’d like to see the liberals’ pets do a mass riot & mayhem on the campuses of Harvard, Yale, etc. These people need to feel the direct impact on their institutions.

  100. @Kratoklastes

    Have you ever BEEN to chick-fil-a? I’ve never seen any less black fast food place. Are you confusing it with cheaper, greasier, less polite, popeyes?

    Anyway this smart boy desire to interpret everything through cynical just-so stories of economic interest is tiresome. It should be obvious by now that that there are all sorts of other (frequently stronger) motivations out there.

    Chick-fil-a carried a heavy stamp of its founders ideology for a long time. This looks increasingly vestigial since Cathy Sr’s passing but it’s simply obtuse and illogically cynical to deny it was ever real.

  101. @Jonathan Mason

    Yeah I mean Israeli intelligence murdering inconvenient people in foreign countries is simply too far fetched. I mean who in our intelligence agencies would ever let the Israeli government get away with stuff like that? Not like they had them on video having orgies with underage girls or anything.

    Probably the relevant security recordings spontaneously erased at the exact time the most important perp in the entire world was unsupervised and chose to kill himself in some unforeseeable way that just happened to save the Israeli government from being exposed for the worst international provocations in its long history of horrible international provocations.

  102. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Private planes get very little scrutiny.

    17 year olds are presumed to be traveling alone, internationally or in country. No need for chaperones or parental permission. Customs and immigration doesn’t ask if you’re with the people next to you in line.

    Kids under 14 are delivered to an airline flight attendant at the gate and walked off the plane and delivered to the person picking them up Depends somewhat on the country and the airline.

    Nieces went back and forth to the UK alone to visit grandparents every summer starting when they were 12 and 8. No questions asked.

  103. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    If Epstein were killed it would have been a prison guard on his meal break. Or a professional killer would have gone in with proper ID and uniform at 10 or 11 pm change of shift and left after the killing to go out to his car or something if asked. Would he have been asked why he was leaving?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  104. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Epstein paid those hundreds of Florida girls $200-300 for a climax massage. And the girls were recruited by other girls who told them they would make $200-300 dollars before the girls agreed to go to Epstein’s house to give him a message.

    That’s the legal definition of prostitution and pimping. The prostitutes recruit other girls and the pimp tries them out, maybe trains them a bit before sending them to customers.

    The girls gave sex. In exchange they received cash. That’s prostitution. Rent, expensive gifts trips, credit cards for shopping might not be prostitution technically. But cash for sex is prostitution

  105. @JohnnyWalker123

    I have friends who are very into the high end New York restaurant scene (I cook for myself or eat Thai food) and they told me several stories about how Bill Clinton was often out on the town in the best restaurants in New York with younger buxom women with not a Hillary in sight. This was curtailed around 2015 or so, but Ol’ Bill was definitely enjoying the ladies and not in anyway being shy about it for several years.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  106. @ATBOTL

    And nothing of value was lost.

    I am shocked by this election, but it is also inspiring. Grassroots organizing can actually work, especially with social media. It was one thing to bring down Old School Irish Hacks like Crowley as AOC did, not a bad guy, but a total Queens Machine Party Hack if there ever was one, but now Jewish Non-Hacks are starting to fall.

    I am impressed and inspired. Things can change. Engel was bad news all around and anything is an improvement.

  107. @Jim Don Bob

    The KEY demos in NYC are city workers and the Orthodox Jews. A few strategic Black Churches are also in the mix.

    My Orthodox Brothers are starting to push back against the De Blasio Chaos which is a sight to see! AMEN! The Orthodox always have their own angle that I may not agree with, but they believe in Family, Neighborhood (their own, not yours) and LAW AND ORDER (in their neighborhoods). All things that I can get behind so there is a viable voting block for reason especially when most city workers and Black church goers tend to be sensible people on the law and order front.

    The Honda mini-vans were out in force last night.

  108. Rahan says:

    I have to say, every time I see this headline, it looks like some Alan Ginsburg collection title:
    “Shooting Up Sharply in New York”.

    Snorting Lines Screaming in LA.

    Lighting Up on Edge in Berkeley.

  109. Liked your ‘Black Lives Splattered’, would make a nice t-shirt.
    I’ve got another fine t-shirt or protest placard idea:

    BLACK MOBS MATTER

  110. bomag says:
    @Kratoklastes

    the Bible Belt is also the…

    I suspect these numbers are driven more by the non-church going cohort.

    …to rely on objectively-ridiculous first-century fiction as the basis for a moral code.

    Those tenets were plenty successful long before, and carried society successfully enough through history.

    So pick your fiction. I can’t believe the current fad of “worship the Negro” is going to have any long-term success.

  111. @Alden

    Would he have been asked why he was leaving?

    I am sure that would depend on the individual facility. At the prison where I worked there was often nobody on the front desk at night. However several electronically operated gates would have had to be passed and the operator would observe the person going out by camera. If the person was somebody they did not recognize I think they would challenge them. Prisons are very thinly staffed at night and you can’t just have people going out to their car for a smoke unless they are relieved at their post by somebody else.

    At the prison where I worked when you entered you would have to turn over one copy of your ID card which would be placed in a book after a swipe through the computer and you would also have to turn in a small photograph called a chit which would be exchanged for a personal body alarm, hanged on a hook, and then retrieved when you returned the personal body alarm. You would then go through the metal detector and be patted down.

    Your mileage may differ. I cannot say that every facility is the same and I have no experience of federal prisons, but I would expect that federal prisons would be even more stringent and that employees could not just wander in and out during the middle of the night.

    Of course you can never underestimate human error, incompetence, and failure to follow correct procedure. However it would be tricky to rely on it so as to be able to sneak into a prison and kill somebody.

  112. @Reg Cæsar

    South Dakota has lousy US mail service; so if you mail in a payment ten days prior to due date the chances of it arriving late increase substantially–thus triggering late payment penalties and interest.

  113. Thomas says:
    @anon

    The issue though isn’t solving murders or similar serious felonies after the fact once permanent damage has been done. There’s no shortage of black knuckleheads out there who will eventually commit a murder if left to their own devices. You won’t get rid of them by waiting until after they’ve killed someone and only then packing them off to prison for a few years.

    What’s worked at lowering the homicide rate is the recognition that the vast majority of ghetto shooters invariably have long and escalating criminal histories before they graduate to finally killing somebody. You nail them on something – a drug charge, a gun charge, three-strikes, whatever – and make sure spend their wild years locked up, you prevent the murder or murders they were eventually going to commit.

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