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The New York Times Magazine has a giant article on tennis player Serena Williams by Claudia Rankine (pictured at right) that serves as yet another illustration of my observation that while many female journalists routinely crusade on the surface against sexism, racism, etc., a close reading of their most passionate articles suggests that their highest priority in demanding a cultural revolution to overturn society’s oppressive values is that they want to wind up being considered hotter-looking.

The Meaning of Serena Williams
On tennis and black excellence.
By CLAUDIA RANKINE AUG. 25, 2015

… There is a belief among some African-Americans that to defeat racism, they have to work harder, be smarter, be better. Only after they give 150 percent will white Americans recognize black excellence for what it is. But of course, once recognized, black excellence is then supposed to perform with good manners and forgiveness in the face of any racist slights or attacks. Black excellence is not supposed to be emotional as it pulls itself together to win after questionable calls. And in winning, it’s not supposed to swagger, to leap and pump its fist, to state boldly, in the words of Kanye West, ‘‘That’s what it is, black excellence, baby.’’

Right, as you can see how black NFL defensive players never visibly celebrate after tackling somebody for just a two-yard gain. The white power structure forces black football receivers to merely hand the ball to the ref in the end zone with an aw shucks look. Similarly, LeBron James could dunk the ball, but white society thinks it’s overly abrasive to humiliate your opponents like that, so LeBron just gently lays the ball in the basket.

… Imagine that you have to contend with critiques of your body that perpetuate racist notions that black women are hypermasculine and unattractive.

But it’s also racist to wonder if Serena’s giant muscles aren’t wholly the result of black genes. Some people, who look at Serena compared to her older sister Venus, wonder if maybe Serena represents not just black nature but advanced nurture too.

But thinking that is racist as well, so just stop thinking.

Serena’s grace comes because she won’t be forced into stillness; she won’t accept those racist projections onto her body without speaking back; she won’t go gently into the white light of victory. Her excellence doesn’t mask the struggle it takes to achieve each win. For black people, there is an unspoken script that demands the humble absorption of racist assaults, no matter the scale, because whites need to believe that it’s no big deal. But Serena refuses to keep to that script. Somehow, along the way, she made a decision to be excellent while still being Serena.

It’s like how Muhammad Ali could have exulted over the fallen Sonny Liston, but instead white culture forced him to be impassive.

Similarly, deep down Tiger Woods might like to pump his fist after making a good putt, but he knows that white country club golfers lynch blacks who get uppity, so he’s never done it (pumping his fist, that is; never making a good putt is only recent).

When Serena was a little girl, she was so timid about expressing emotions that her sister Venus once said what a miracle it was that she could summon the courage to speak at all, usually just to ask for food when she was hungry though. She innately sensed that racism was real, immanent, and suffocating. As her body grew, her emotions grew too. Tennis became an outlet for those emotions, an outlet for her humanity. Years of quiet shyness or just fear bloomed forth into an amazing athlete, no one could deny. Suddenly she started to speak, especially on the tennis court, or as her father adoringly dotes, “My little grunter.” …

She would feel what she feels in front of everyone, in response to anyone. At Wimbledon this year, for example, in a match against the home favorite Heather Watson, Serena, interrupted during play by the deafening support of Watson, wagged her index finger at the crowd and said, ‘‘Don’t try me.’’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2-63IhLtk

She will tell an audience or an official that they are disrespectful or unjust, whether she says, simply, ‘‘No, no, no’’ or something much more forceful, as happened at the U.S. Open in 2009, when she told the lineswoman, ‘‘I swear to God I am [expletive] going to take this [expletive] ball and shove it down your [expletive] throat.’’

Fight the Power! Don’t the let the White Male Power Structure (embodied, in this particular case, by a tiny Asian lady) keep the Black Man and Black Woman down!

… To accept the self, its humanity, is to discard the white racist gaze. Serena has freed herself from it. But that doesn’t mean she won’t be emotional or hurt by challenges to her humanity. It doesn’t mean she won’t battle for the right to be excellent. There is nothing wrong with Serena, but surely there is something wrong with the expectation that she be ‘‘good’’ while she is achieving greatness. Why should Serena not respond to racism? In whose world should it be answered with good manners? The notable difference between black excellence and white excellence is white excellence is achieved without having to battle racism. Imagine.

Two years ago, recovering from cancer and to celebrate my 50th birthday, I flew from LAX to J.F.K. during Serena’s semifinal match at the U.S. Open with the hope of seeing her play in the final. I had just passed through a year when so much was out of my control, and Serena epitomized not so much winning as the pure drive to win. I couldn’t quite shake the feeling (I still can’t quite shake it) that my body’s frailty, not the cancer but the depth of my exhaustion, had been brought on in part by the constant onslaught of racism, whether something as terrible as the killing of Trayvon Martin or something as mundane as the guy who let the door slam in my face. The daily grind of being rendered invisible, or being attacked, whether physically or verbally, for being visible, wears a body down. Serena’s strength and focus in the face of the realities we shared oddly consoled me.

That Sunday in Arthur Ashe Stadium at the women’s final, though the crowd generally seemed pro-Serena, the man seated next to me was cheering for the formidable tall blonde Victoria Azarenka. I asked him if he was American. ‘‘Yes,” he said.

‘‘We’re at the U.S. Open. Why are you cheering for the player from Belarus?’’ I asked.

‘‘Oh, I just want the match to be competitive,’’ he said.

After Serena lost the second set, at the opening of the third, I turned to him again, and asked him, no doubt in my own frustration, why he was still cheering for Azarenka. He didn’t answer, as was his prerogative. By the time it was clear that Serena was likely to win, his seat had been vacated. I had to admit to myself that in those moments I needed her to win, not just in the pure sense of a fan supporting her player, but to prove something that could never be proven, because if black excellence could cure us of anything, black people — or rather this black person — would be free from needing Serena to win. …

I was moved by Serena’s positioning herself in relation to other African-Americans. A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own. The private clubs that housed the tennis courts remained closed to minorities well into the second half of the 20th century. Serena reminded me that in addition to being a phenomenon, she has come out of a long line of African-Americans who battled for the right to be excellent in a such a space that attached its value to its whiteness and worked overtime to keep it segregated.

Serena’s excellence comes with the ability to imagine herself achieving a new kind of history for all of us. As long as she remains healthy, she will most likely tie and eventually pass Graf’s 22 majors, regardless of what happens at the U.S. Open this year. I want Serena to win, but I know better than to think her winning can end something she didn’t start. But Serena is providing a new script, one in which winning doesn’t carry the burden of curing racism, in which we win just to win — knowing that it is simply her excellence, baby.

 
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  1. Claudia be ANGRY!

    • Agree: Retired
    • Replies: @BigGaySteve
    Not as angry as SHEMAN Serena arguing with a judge. Her arms are bigger than some gay guys waists. When John McEnroe says you are a poor sportsman he should be counted as an expert.
  2. The white power structure forces black football players to merely hand the ball to the ref with an aw shucks look.

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders. When asked about it once, he said his father had told him, “when you get to the end zone, act like you’ve been there before”.

    • Agree: Vendetta
    • Replies: @Rifleman

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders.
     
    Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders.

    Also Walter Payton, Marcus Allen and others.

    In other words probably ALL the top ten all time NFL running backs!
    , @Anonymous
    Tennis fans dislike most moody players looking for attention. McEnroe was hated at Wimbledon for years and more recently Djokovic was disliked early in his career for his nutty father in the stands and complaining. OTOH, Nadal is very humble and one of the most beloved tennis players of all time. Federer as well. It has nothing to do with race.
  3. What a load of shite. I couldn’t make it thru the whole pile.
    Money quote: “It’s racist to wonder…” Are we now crossing over into Thought Crimes?
    Here’s my thought crime. I wonder if a writer who has not benefited from affirmative action could get such drivel published in a national magazine. Is she the Maya Angelou of reporters?
    Natch, she’s a professor at Pomona, an elite college in SoCal.

  4. I like Serena. She has a temper, but is generally down to earth, and always honest and frank.

    I just don’t understand why so many Black athletes – many of whom know that this ‘oppression’ narrative is pure nonsense – let themselves be used by these kind of racehustlers.

    Poor, oppressed Black athletes…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Honest, frank and more juiced than Arnold before Mr. Olympia '77.
  5. at the U.S. Open in 2009, … she told the lineswoman, ‘‘I swear to God I am [expletive] going to take this [expletive] ball and shove it down your [expletive] throat.’’

    Testosterone will do that for you!

    • Replies: @BigGaySteve
    They should have that random drug tester SHEMAN ran away from in 2011 to back up the line judges.
  6. WhatEvvs [AKA "Aamirkhanfan"] says:

    Sorry for the OT, but this decision is astounding:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-second-amendment-also-covers-those-in-us-illegally/ar-BBm5Bx1?ocid=spartanntp

    If illegals are covered by the 2nd amendment, then the entirety of constitutional rights applies to them as well. This court has simply abolished citizenship.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    Oh God. We need the Donald sooner than ever.
    , @Retired
    It will go to the Supremes along with one or more other state cases. The 2nd amendment will be in the hands of Kennedy and Roberts. May God Help us.
    , @BB753
    That was the idea, all along, of mass immigration. Dilute citizens' rights until they're meaningless. Then you'll be left with two classes of people: the international elite jet set crowd and all the rest, the lowly peons. Citizenship, national borders and national sovereignty are so 19th century!
  7. It’s a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of “Get up, sucker!”

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    Agreed. Steve has thrown in a bad example among several good ones. That punch wouldn’t have knocked me down.
    , @I, Libertine
    I'm not sure, however, that I could stay on my feet after a haymaker from Serena.
    , @hodag
    What are the most famous worked sporting events in memory?

    Riggs v King. That nba ref worked a few games. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. had more than a few worked fights on the way up.
    , @shrinker
    I've never understood while the Neil Leifer photo (of Ali-Liston II) is so applauded. Divorced of the context -- nobody is left who remembers Liston the overdog, or pre-beatification "lovable people's champion" Clay -- it's still shabby as an ideal of sport & competition, essentially depicting a wild-eyed punk exulting animalistically in neener-neenerism over a suspiciously prone Goliath. Adding the context of all the evidence of Liston having taken a dive, the photo is even more de-vigorating...
    , @Truth
    If you watch the punch in slow motion (at the end of the clip) it is apparent that a solid punch that Liston did not see landed on the chin, and jerked his head violently to the right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADbnYQJg7w
  8. “There is a belief among some African-Americans that to defeat racism, they have to work harder, be smarter, be better.”

    Racism was, is, and shall ever be. The writer expresses more racism in her jeremiad than is good for the soul. But then, that is the ‘right’ of ‘black privilege’ in our anti-white society of today. It would be nice if they did ‘work harder, be smarter, be better,’ than the Trayvon Martin martyrs they cling to in desperation. Serena Williams, pumped-up PEDrugged Serena, is such a good role model for black excellence, don’t you think?

    • Replies: @boogerbently
    You can take the girl out of the ghetto (Hamptons).......
    , @boogerbently
    Michael Brown,

    The "unarmed teenager".....
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Hubbub, yes, according to this woman blacks have to be 150% better . So when Serena wins, the scores have to be 12-2, 12-1, 12-3. It is never ending with these people, and oh yeah, the "white gaze." Listen, hang a dick on Serena and I'll take that physique.
  9. The problem with Women’s tennis is the same problem with many women’s sports, namely a little amount of testosterone gives you a big edge and the bigger and stronger you are – aka the more you’re built like a man – the better your chance of winnig.

    The end result is a lot of “female” champions who’re built like men or who take dangerous drugs. And of course, since people are genetically programmed to like feminine looking women this hurts the sport. At least among normal men and women. I can’t speak for liberals.

    Or look at it this way, if it wasn’t a strongman like Serena bulling her way to a championship it’d be some other big, strong jawed lass with a good doctor.

    • Replies: @e
    When Martina Navratilova started looking bulked up, people turned on her too. For a long while, American crowds loved Martina. They liked rooting for someone with her story, a young woman from a communist country.
  10. But Serena is providing a new script, one in which winning doesn’t carry the burden of curing racism, in which we win just to win — knowing that it is simply her excellence, baby.

    Can anyone parse this? I guess editing her work would be a micro-aggression.

  11. “‘‘Oh, I just want the match to be competitive,’’ he said.”

    So much to unpack.

    If you spend a small fortune to see the US Open Final and aren’t really a big fan of either finalist, you are a racist if you fail to root for the American, or if you fail to root for the African-American, or if you simply want to see a decent Final match. Nothing can be taken at face value, everyone is a racist. And don’t you dare to question the motives and agendas of the media with nonsense like this.

    Can she explain why millions of American football fans rooted for Russell Wilson (who happens to be African-American) and the Seahawks over white Tom Brady and the Pats last February? You can probably find a ton more examples of exactly that.

    The photo of Ali standing over Liston was almost certainly part of Ali selling a fixed fight . Adds a whole other dimension to it; an African-American raised very middle class mixed up in the lunacy of the black Muslim movement standing over an African-American street strong arm guy who took a dive for Italian and Jewish American bookmakers and mobsters.

    • Replies: @ganderson
    I don't really follow boxing, so I had not heard that this fight was fixed. Are there any good books and/or articles about this?
  12. I’m reminded of Harold Abrahams as played by Ben Cross in Chariots of Fire. Remember the scene where he’s complaining of all the anti-Semitic microaggressions he has to put up with? Never mind that he’s made it to the (second?) most prestigious university in the realm and has been allowed and encouraged to excel in all his athletic pursuits. No, the evil Gentile power structure is still out there to keep him down, and he can prove it because some schmuck dared to give him a limp handshake once.

    • Replies: @Honesthughgrant
    Uh, Harold Abrahams would've have won *three* gold medals if antisemitism hadn't held him back.
    , @David In TN
    The characterization of Harold Abrahams by Ben Cross does not fit accounts of him I've read. Among other things, Abrahams converted to Catholicism in the 1930's.
  13. @WhatEvvs
    Sorry for the OT, but this decision is astounding:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-second-amendment-also-covers-those-in-us-illegally/ar-BBm5Bx1?ocid=spartanntp

    If illegals are covered by the 2nd amendment, then the entirety of constitutional rights applies to them as well. This court has simply abolished citizenship.

    Oh God. We need the Donald sooner than ever.

  14. @jtgw
    I'm reminded of Harold Abrahams as played by Ben Cross in Chariots of Fire. Remember the scene where he's complaining of all the anti-Semitic microaggressions he has to put up with? Never mind that he's made it to the (second?) most prestigious university in the realm and has been allowed and encouraged to excel in all his athletic pursuits. No, the evil Gentile power structure is still out there to keep him down, and he can prove it because some schmuck dared to give him a limp handshake once.

    Uh, Harold Abrahams would’ve have won *three* gold medals if antisemitism hadn’t held him back.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    LOL
  15. @The man from J.A.M.E.S.
    It's a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of "Get up, sucker!"

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    Agreed. Steve has thrown in a bad example among several good ones. That punch wouldn’t have knocked me down.

  16. @The man from J.A.M.E.S.
    It's a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of "Get up, sucker!"

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    I’m not sure, however, that I could stay on my feet after a haymaker from Serena.

  17. Hypermasculine?! If Serena didn’t have the T&A, she could never get away with the steroids. As it is, she is so hyperfeminine in those traits that it serves as some cover for her obvious doping.

    I know I’ll get blasted here for suggesting it, but there are probably plenty of white guys who in their “hindbrains” would welcome a piece of that action.

    For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes. She may be juiced up, but she’s a woman for sure. The problem with Serena isn’t that she’s “masculine” (she isn’t, really) — it’s that she’s a cheat like Barry Bonds.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    Didn't her boobs grow a lot at some point in her career, like about 10 years ago? In addition to juicing I expect she's had implants. The two big S's of any pasty nerd's femdom fantasies: Steroids and Silicone.
    , @eah
    (she isn’t, really)

    It's relative -- compared to eg Maria Sharapova, she is.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    No, dude.
    Now, Tori Bowie from the recent women's 100m ? Okay. She's pretty. But Serena? Just for having big Ts? No...
    , @tbraton
    "For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes."

    I seem to recall a number of years back when John McEnroe, then in his 40's and possibly playing on the senior circuit of men's tennis, challenged both Williams sisters to a match, an offer they both declined. He sounded very confident that he could easily beat both of them, even though he was giving away more than 20 years and had retired from major league tennis more than 10 years earlier.

    I believe that Bobby Riggs threw his famous match against Billy Jean King 42 years ago. What most people forget is that before he played King, Riggs played and easily beat Margaret Court of Australia, the top rated woman's tennis player in the world, despite being more than 20 years older than she and being retired from men's tennis for more than 20 years. ESPN did a special on the match and established that Riggs didn't train for the King match the way he had trained for the Court match and may have had large gambling debts, which were erased by throwing the King match. In looking up Riggs vs. King on Wikipedia, I discovered there were other tests between men and women tennis players over the years which I was not aware of, all of which were won by the men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1992:_Navratilova_v_Connors

    Also I have no special knowledge about PEDs, but I wonder if there may be a connection between Serena's possibly taking such drugs and the fact that she plays a lot less tennis these days, seemingly concentrating on the 4 majors and avoiding the week in-week out tennis tour. Apart from avoiding the chance of discovery, would that allow her body to recover from taking the PEDs? Or do you have to take PEDs all year round to get the benefit?
  18. I pity her – to go through life with this kind of mindset is to be perpetually unhappy, blaming everyone else, but deep down knowing the problem is you.

  19. @Bill P
    Hypermasculine?! If Serena didn't have the T&A, she could never get away with the steroids. As it is, she is so hyperfeminine in those traits that it serves as some cover for her obvious doping.

    I know I'll get blasted here for suggesting it, but there are probably plenty of white guys who in their "hindbrains" would welcome a piece of that action.

    For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes. She may be juiced up, but she's a woman for sure. The problem with Serena isn't that she's "masculine" (she isn't, really) -- it's that she's a cheat like Barry Bonds.

    Didn’t her boobs grow a lot at some point in her career, like about 10 years ago? In addition to juicing I expect she’s had implants. The two big S’s of any pasty nerd’s femdom fantasies: Steroids and Silicone.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I wonder: testosterone is the precursor to estrogen (yes, really). Maybe having more T around leads to bigger boobs?
  20. The thing that gets me about many of the comments over Serena’s muscle mass is the absurd claim that power just isn’t a factor, that it’s all technique, etc.

    So, why, exactly, do male tennis players of middling ability routinely humiliate even the top women players? Better technique?

    What is it, exactly, that these women players are missing?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Mark Rippetoe of Starting Strength argues that strength is one of the few things that an athlete can increase significantly that will in turn improve his athletic performance. The ability to add strength varies according to genetics, age, etc., but anyone can get stronger, often by a lot. On the other hand, attributes such as agility and leaping ability are much more constrained by genetics.
  21. So if one guy in the stadium cheers a Serena opponent, that’s terrible. But if the entire Rose Bowl is full of people loudly cheering against the USA national soccer team? Then viva la diversity!

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    The main thing is to be rooting against white people.
  22. A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own.

    I’m not sure I understand this sentence. But the rest of the article is perfectly clear. Ahem.

    • Replies: @BigGaySteve

    A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own.
    I’m not sure I understand this sentence. But the rest of the article is perfectly clear.

     
    She is saying that the Wright bros wouldn't have gotten off the ground if not for blacks picking cotton. She would have been part of the mule train protesting the moon landing.
  23. @WhatEvvs
    Sorry for the OT, but this decision is astounding:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-second-amendment-also-covers-those-in-us-illegally/ar-BBm5Bx1?ocid=spartanntp

    If illegals are covered by the 2nd amendment, then the entirety of constitutional rights applies to them as well. This court has simply abolished citizenship.

    It will go to the Supremes along with one or more other state cases. The 2nd amendment will be in the hands of Kennedy and Roberts. May God Help us.

    • Replies: @boogerbently
    The SCOTUS.
    MAJOR changes need to happen with their "tenure".
    For LIFE......
    What were they thinking ???
  24. And I just want to add that I’m grateful Steve reads this tripe for us so that we don’t have to.

  25. @Bill P
    Hypermasculine?! If Serena didn't have the T&A, she could never get away with the steroids. As it is, she is so hyperfeminine in those traits that it serves as some cover for her obvious doping.

    I know I'll get blasted here for suggesting it, but there are probably plenty of white guys who in their "hindbrains" would welcome a piece of that action.

    For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes. She may be juiced up, but she's a woman for sure. The problem with Serena isn't that she's "masculine" (she isn't, really) -- it's that she's a cheat like Barry Bonds.

    (she isn’t, really)

    It’s relative — compared to eg Maria Sharapova, she is.

  26. @Honesthughgrant
    Uh, Harold Abrahams would've have won *three* gold medals if antisemitism hadn't held him back.

    LOL

  27. You can take the girl out of the ghetto (Hamptons)…….

  28. @Hubbub
    "There is a belief among some African-Americans that to defeat racism, they have to work harder, be smarter, be better."

    Racism was, is, and shall ever be. The writer expresses more racism in her jeremiad than is good for the soul. But then, that is the 'right' of 'black privilege' in our anti-white society of today. It would be nice if they did 'work harder, be smarter, be better,' than the Trayvon Martin martyrs they cling to in desperation. Serena Williams, pumped-up PEDrugged Serena, is such a good role model for black excellence, don't you think?

    You can take the girl out of the ghetto (Hamptons)…….

  29. contend with critiques of your body

    Coates’s sister?

    in the words of Kanye West, ‘‘That’s what it is, black excellence, baby.’’

    Well we know one thing – he wasn’t referring to black females….or the way blacks handled Hurricane Katrina.

  30. @Hubbub
    "There is a belief among some African-Americans that to defeat racism, they have to work harder, be smarter, be better."

    Racism was, is, and shall ever be. The writer expresses more racism in her jeremiad than is good for the soul. But then, that is the 'right' of 'black privilege' in our anti-white society of today. It would be nice if they did 'work harder, be smarter, be better,' than the Trayvon Martin martyrs they cling to in desperation. Serena Williams, pumped-up PEDrugged Serena, is such a good role model for black excellence, don't you think?

    Michael Brown,

    The “unarmed teenager”…..

  31. Steve’s favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:

    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    Steve’s favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:
     
    Gets deported! I love it. Your little headline matched that video perfectly. Now if only Uncle Sam would deport that guy.
    , @eah
    Here's a WaPo story on that: First, Trump booted Univision anchor Jorge Ramos out of his news conference. Then things got interesting.

    It starts out this way: Two minutes into Donald Trump's news conference here Tuesday night came the question he tried to silence.

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude -- Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to "silence" him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won't mind being lied to so blatantly.
  32. @The man from J.A.M.E.S.
    It's a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of "Get up, sucker!"

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    What are the most famous worked sporting events in memory?

    Riggs v King. That nba ref worked a few games. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. had more than a few worked fights on the way up.

  33. @jtgw
    Didn't her boobs grow a lot at some point in her career, like about 10 years ago? In addition to juicing I expect she's had implants. The two big S's of any pasty nerd's femdom fantasies: Steroids and Silicone.

    I wonder: testosterone is the precursor to estrogen (yes, really). Maybe having more T around leads to bigger boobs?

    • Replies: @jtgw
    I just know that you can't have big boobs when your body fat percentage is as low as Serena's seems to be. Or at least Serena would be the only exception I know of. If the T was turning into E, which you might expect after she retires and stops training, then maybe, but then she'd be getting fat all over.

    Or if I'm talking out my rear and someone can convince me either her tits or muscles are natural, I'm all ears.
  34. @Dave Pinsen

    The white power structure forces black football players to merely hand the ball to the ref with an aw shucks look.
     
    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders. When asked about it once, he said his father had told him, "when you get to the end zone, act like you've been there before".

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders.

    Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders.

    Also Walter Payton, Marcus Allen and others.

    In other words probably ALL the top ten all time NFL running backs!

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Tony Dorsett as well used to hand the ball off to the refs after scoring TDS. And ditto Franco Harris.

    For the most part, WR Larry Fitzgerald of AZ Cardinals hands the ball off to the refs after scoring TDs as well.
    , @David In TN
    It was said of O.J. Simpson that he never spiked the ball. My memory is he didn't.

    Payton would give the ball to a teammate to spike.
    , @Hunsdon
    Earl Campbell's demeanor on the field pretty much ruined me for the modern game. He was a class act.
  35. @Retired
    It will go to the Supremes along with one or more other state cases. The 2nd amendment will be in the hands of Kennedy and Roberts. May God Help us.

    The SCOTUS.
    MAJOR changes need to happen with their “tenure”.
    For LIFE……
    What were they thinking ???

  36. @Bugg
    "‘‘Oh, I just want the match to be competitive,’’ he said."

    So much to unpack.

    If you spend a small fortune to see the US Open Final and aren't really a big fan of either finalist, you are a racist if you fail to root for the American, or if you fail to root for the African-American, or if you simply want to see a decent Final match. Nothing can be taken at face value, everyone is a racist. And don't you dare to question the motives and agendas of the media with nonsense like this.

    Can she explain why millions of American football fans rooted for Russell Wilson (who happens to be African-American) and the Seahawks over white Tom Brady and the Pats last February? You can probably find a ton more examples of exactly that.

    The photo of Ali standing over Liston was almost certainly part of Ali selling a fixed fight . Adds a whole other dimension to it; an African-American raised very middle class mixed up in the lunacy of the black Muslim movement standing over an African-American street strong arm guy who took a dive for Italian and Jewish American bookmakers and mobsters.

    I don’t really follow boxing, so I had not heard that this fight was fixed. Are there any good books and/or articles about this?

  37. I know almost nothing about the sisters nor tennis, but don’t worry, I won’t let that stop me from commenting!

    Venus seems like a sweetie from the group shots I saw with her and her sister. A bit shy and hesitant maybe? Serena on the other hand seems perpetually aggrieved. If I had was dating Venus, I would worry about pissing Serena off by ignoring her or something and getting my ass beat. 🙁

    Seriously, look at this pic of her.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/tennis/30928671

    Death by snoo snoo indeed.

  38. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    ——Kanye West, ‘‘That’s what it is, black excellence, baby.’’——

    He seems to find white women more excellent than the black ones.

  39. Don’t forget that Serena is Straight Outta Compton!

  40. Horrific Murder of Another Unarmed Michael Brown!

    Michael Brown, 38, was robbed and beaten to death by five men in Brooklyn, NY. Fortunately, Brown was white and his killers black, so not really a big story. Also, it appears his killers were “unarmed,” always an important detail.

    http://www.amny.com/news/michael-brown-beaten-to-death-during-brooklyn-robbery-police-search-for-suspects-1.10770307

  41. Re: “‘‘We’re at the U.S. Open. Why are you cheering for the player from Belarus?’’ I asked….”

    Azarenka (and Sharapova) are basically American players claiming nationality from Belarus and Russia for big-fish-in-a-small-pond reasons.

    Both have lived in the United States since their teen years and both came of age (tennis-wise) in U.S. tennis academies – Azarenka in Scottsdale, Arizona and Sharapova in Bradenton, Florida.

    There is no price to be paid in current American culture for showing indifference or ingratitude to the nation that took you in and trained you (and where you currently live and make your home.) There is a price to be paid back in Russia or Belarus, where national loyalties run stronger. So there is much to gain, and nothing to lose, in claiming to be Belarus or Russian even though it’s more- or- less a fiction.

    Notwithstanding her sometimes-ugly character Serena is the greatest women’s player ever, too, so there’s no upside in being the second-greatest American player if you can be the best Russian ever.

  42. I don’t really know how you would parody what I just read from the Grey lady. We almost sense something unreal is going on; Serena’s fans would be as amazed as her foes if white men started lusting over her like I’ve seen black guys do. I wonder what this piece would have been about is Serena exclusively dated white guys.

    • Replies: @Don't look at me
    Does that mean I have a chance?

    Seriously. I know I'm not the only white man who thinks she's hot.
  43. @The man from J.A.M.E.S.
    It's a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of "Get up, sucker!"

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    I’ve never understood while the Neil Leifer photo (of Ali-Liston II) is so applauded. Divorced of the context — nobody is left who remembers Liston the overdog, or pre-beatification “lovable people’s champion” Clay — it’s still shabby as an ideal of sport & competition, essentially depicting a wild-eyed punk exulting animalistically in neener-neenerism over a suspiciously prone Goliath. Adding the context of all the evidence of Liston having taken a dive, the photo is even more de-vigorating…

  44. iSteveFan says:

    A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own.

    This seems like another case of damned if you do, or damned if you don’t. If a white thinks he has accomplished a lot on his own, he is guilty of white privilege for not recognizing that his accomplishments arise from being born white. But if a white acknowledges those who came before him from the Ancient Greeks on down, and gives them credit for everything in our modern world, from our form of government to our scientific and technical prowess, he is a white supremacist and bad.

    So it appears you are either suffering from white privilege if you think you did it on your own, or you are an evil white supremacist if you acknowledge the contributions of those Euros who came before you.

  45. @SFG
    I wonder: testosterone is the precursor to estrogen (yes, really). Maybe having more T around leads to bigger boobs?

    I just know that you can’t have big boobs when your body fat percentage is as low as Serena’s seems to be. Or at least Serena would be the only exception I know of. If the T was turning into E, which you might expect after she retires and stops training, then maybe, but then she’d be getting fat all over.

    Or if I’m talking out my rear and someone can convince me either her tits or muscles are natural, I’m all ears.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Simona Halep
  46. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Consider the logic of Political Correctness.

    It’s ‘racist’ to think blacks are wild and aggressive.

    You see, blacks are ‘nice’ like everyone else.

    But it’s also ‘racist’ to expect blacks to be ‘nice’.

    Authentic blackness is about being wild and aggressive.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    In a nutshell, it’s ‘racist’ to say blacks are too loud.

    But it’s also ‘racist’ to expect blacks to mind their manners.

    Why? Because blacks are naturally loud.

    If whites notice blacks are louder, that is ‘racist’. If blacks say they are louder, that’s pride.
    It’s like if you say Jews are pushy, that’s ‘antisemitic’. If Jews say they are pushy, it’s the pride of chutzpah.

    The only way to resolve this issue is with race-ism, and I know because I’m the only true race-ist.
    By race-ism, I mean race + ism = belief in races and racial differences.

    What the writer is saying is that we need different standards of behavior for blacks. What is the norm for whites, Asians, and Mexicans cannot be the norm for blacks. Blacks are just naturally louder and wilder. It’s like expecting pit bulls to act at all times like golden retrievers.
    But then, this idea that we need different norms for blacks is race-ist because it’s premised on perception that different races have different personalities. She bitches about ‘racism’ but makes a race-ist argument, i.e. we should allow different norms for blacks cuz black nature is to be loud and wild. Blacks style is akin to what you see in WWE wrestling.

    (As for the beauty issue, I don’t know why people try to apply it to sports. Sports is about power, and some athletes are beautiful, some are not. Russian weightlifters are big and strong, but no one would say they are beautiful. Ali was a good looking guy but Tyson was ugly.)

    Btw, the ‘racism’ this woman is talking about is really about SWPL kind. After all, Obama became president because he was the Nice Negro preferred by Liberal whites. Morgan Freeman became a top actor with his neo-Uncle-Tom act. Malcolm Gladwell has been promoted for his goofy mulatto-ness.
    And despite his supposed rage politics, The Hissy Coates is a rather borky guy–black dorky. He’s not the ‘threatening’ type. TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD is about a nice kindly innocent Negro who done no wrong. In GREEN MILE, a bigass Negro who could break the empire state building in two just goes weepy over a little white mouse. Libs love Oprah, the empowered neo-mammy.

    The fact is big cities revived cuz SWPL elected politicians who used STOP-AND-FRISK and gentrification to control the wilder blacks, many of whom ended up in jail or relocated elsewhere.

    As the woman wrote for NYT, she couldn’t spell this out, but this is really about a Lib vs Lib War.
    It is an essay version of BLM activists who messed up SWPL white gentification ‘progressive’ fest of Bernie Sanders. SWPL types may profess to be admire the likes of Jack Johnson by praising UNFORGIVABLE BLACKNESS but the likes of Ken Burns would rather live with Negroes who are more like Jarrett, Obama, Gladwell, Coates, and etc. Real tough Negroes rap about their body and yammer about muscles and puds. It is the borky Coates who ‘intellectualize’ that stuff to win plaudits from a small Japanese American reviewer at NYT.

    I would argue that everything is race-ist. I am. But so is the woman writer. Her article makes no sense UNLESS we accept the premise that blacks are indeed different and feel stifled when living by white standards. But then, Americans have said the same thing about Japan. What is the norm for Japanese isn’t the norm for whites. Whites will find it repressive.

    So, I will meet this writer half-way in my honest race-ist way.

    Yes, it is unnatural and stifling for blacks to repress their natural blackness and act according to white norms. Blacks have a natural need to holler more, jive more, dance more, and act out more. Evolution made them that way.

    But just as that’s natural for blacks due to race-ist difference, it is also natural for non-blacks to fear blacks more, not want to live wild and dangerous blacks, feel sickened by obnoxious black behavior, and etc.

    The truth of race-ism(racial differences) naturally makes blacks want to act more aggressive.

    The truth of race-ism also naturally makes non-blacks want to live apart from blacks who act threatening, wild, and trashy. What is the norm for black nature isn’t the norm for non-blacks.
    As blacks are naturally stronger, the combination of natural aggressiveness and stronger muscle power creates a lot of problems for other races. It is no wonder that racial violence is mostly black on white, black on brown, black on Asian, black on Jewish, black on Arab, etc.

    How to solve this problem.

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don’t mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don’t act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.

    And let blacks stay among theyselves. But but but… here’s the problem. When all those blacks in black communities naturally act black, they tend to fight, rape, holler and woller, kill one another, tear things down, burn things down, and ruin everything… which is why blacks want to move to white nations/communities than stay in their own black-made nations and communities.

    Would something like sports franchises and systems exist in the first place if everyone acted like blacks? Black nature is better at tearing things down than building things up.
    Blacks may win in sports, but all sports industries are run and managed and financed by non-blacks who act more with their minds and manners than with their butts and guts.

    Anyway, it’s natural for blacks to holler, jive, and act wild.
    It is natural for us to not want to live with people who act that way.

    Race-ism teaches us that different races exist and racial differences matter. Blacks are more aggressive, stronger, wilder, and more childlike. They can’t help theyselves. We should let them be black in their black communities.

    But let us be naturally like ourselves in our communities where we don’t act loud, wild, crazy, abrasive, and funkyass.
    Blacks will tear their communities apart with their nature, and that’s their problem.
    We will build up and maintain our communities with more even and balanced behavior.
    Let blacks be black in the black world, and let us be us in our world. Just keep blacks out. And if blacks find white norms so ‘racist’, they should stay in Africa instead of moving to Europe in search of Boatright Citizenship.

    Btw, the woman writer of the article surely owes her career as writer to the white/Jewish establishment that can actually run and maintain a media organization. If blacks ran the media industry, it would go the way of most African countries since too many blacks would be acting wild and stupid like Serena.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Deduction

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don’t mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don’t act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.
     
    Just wondering, but what about the many civilised blacks and the many hollering whites?

    I get that you are not the one who introduced the racial lens into this discussion's examination of behaviour, but it is a question worth asking.

    Ignore the article. The woman feels all sorts of feelings. That is all it is. Her own undeveloped psychology laid out on a computer screen.

    She doesn't want you to try and reason with her and provide a solution. She needs/craves you to listen, acknowledge her pain and then tell her she's being silly and put her to bed.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Skia, I award you the Golden Border. Nicely stated.
  47. @H2
    Steve's favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzSUx-eLDc

    Steve’s favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:

    Gets deported! I love it. Your little headline matched that video perfectly. Now if only Uncle Sam would deport that guy.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Deport the guy? He is a mouthpiece for Haim Saban, the Israeli owner of Univision and a big Republican donor. No chance that Ramos, la piquita Chihuahua, gets deported.
  48. @Hubbub
    "There is a belief among some African-Americans that to defeat racism, they have to work harder, be smarter, be better."

    Racism was, is, and shall ever be. The writer expresses more racism in her jeremiad than is good for the soul. But then, that is the 'right' of 'black privilege' in our anti-white society of today. It would be nice if they did 'work harder, be smarter, be better,' than the Trayvon Martin martyrs they cling to in desperation. Serena Williams, pumped-up PEDrugged Serena, is such a good role model for black excellence, don't you think?

    Hubbub, yes, according to this woman blacks have to be 150% better . So when Serena wins, the scores have to be 12-2, 12-1, 12-3. It is never ending with these people, and oh yeah, the “white gaze.” Listen, hang a dick on Serena and I’ll take that physique.

  49. @Honesthughgrant
    The problem with Women's tennis is the same problem with many women's sports, namely a little amount of testosterone gives you a big edge and the bigger and stronger you are - aka the more you're built like a man - the better your chance of winnig.

    The end result is a lot of "female" champions who're built like men or who take dangerous drugs. And of course, since people are genetically programmed to like feminine looking women this hurts the sport. At least among normal men and women. I can't speak for liberals.

    Or look at it this way, if it wasn't a strongman like Serena bulling her way to a championship it'd be some other big, strong jawed lass with a good doctor.

    When Martina Navratilova started looking bulked up, people turned on her too. For a long while, American crowds loved Martina. They liked rooting for someone with her story, a young woman from a communist country.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "When Martina Navratilova started looking bulked up, people turned on her too."

    Only because they feared her black excellence.
  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    Incidentally, Drake has lyrics celebrating large derrieres…a physical characteristic preferred by many black men.

    Now, one comment of people visiting that country is how ‘masculine’ some of the women look. If, as you’ve argued elsewhere, Black men have higher levels of naturally occurring testosterone, why not the women as well?

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    What isn't natural is her reaching her competitive peak at an age when most tennis players have retired, and an age at which even the greats struggle. Being this good this late in her career is suspicious as Hell.
    , @Deduction

    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.
     
    This is not my observation at all. I wonder whether you are norming her muscularity downward because you see her on TV?

    I can't think of a better way of expressing that but it is similar to how even female best friend type actresses often look amazing in real life.

    You're judging muscularity in TV terms, but the women in Africa you are judging in real life terms.

    I have never seen a single women as muscular as Serena, in any country. They do of course exist, but I don't hang out with pro body builders.

    I do agree that she is still quite attractive, though, but she would be more attractive if she would lay off the androgens, not that the only PEDs she is likely on are androgens.

    There are many others and they are very effective. To win without them would require someone who, if they were as tall as they were athletic, would measure 20 feet.
    , @BigGaySteve

    s I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.
     
    I started working in inner city hospitals back when I believed in equalism. Even after I acknowledged reality I kept up for years more as it was worth earning more in 2 days than full time work in a nice hospital 50 min away. I have never seen any black women that look as manly as Serena except for some bad drag queens. I am pretty sure her breasts & backside are silicon.
  51. Steroids don’t mean just more strength. But also quicker recovery after exhaustion. Think about that advantage over the course of a grueling tournament.

  52. @iSteveFan

    Steve’s favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:
     
    Gets deported! I love it. Your little headline matched that video perfectly. Now if only Uncle Sam would deport that guy.

    Deport the guy? He is a mouthpiece for Haim Saban, the Israeli owner of Univision and a big Republican donor. No chance that Ramos, la piquita Chihuahua, gets deported.

    • Replies: @SnakeEyes
    Haim Saban is a big Democrat donor.
  53. Whenever ugly women try to argue that they’re really the prettiest of them all, I can’t help but think all those Disney movies about the ugly duckling misfits becoming prom queens has created more than a few generations of mind rot.

  54. @candid_observer
    The thing that gets me about many of the comments over Serena's muscle mass is the absurd claim that power just isn't a factor, that it's all technique, etc.

    So, why, exactly, do male tennis players of middling ability routinely humiliate even the top women players? Better technique?

    What is it, exactly, that these women players are missing?

    Mark Rippetoe of Starting Strength argues that strength is one of the few things that an athlete can increase significantly that will in turn improve his athletic performance. The ability to add strength varies according to genetics, age, etc., but anyone can get stronger, often by a lot. On the other hand, attributes such as agility and leaping ability are much more constrained by genetics.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Recently (like, last week) I switched from a inverted leg press machine to squats with a barbell, after watching Rippetoe on YouTube. I went from 1080 lbs on the machine to 225 lbs on the barbell, and I am feeling fatigue in muscles I have never felt before. Totally different exercise using Rippetoe's techniques. I wish I had started doing real squats back when I was young and an athlete.
  55. Here’s a case in point of a female journalist using her trade to showcase her hotness: Middlingly attractive Daily Mail writer Mia de Graff praises the beauty of ugly female comedians.

  56. @Bill P
    Hypermasculine?! If Serena didn't have the T&A, she could never get away with the steroids. As it is, she is so hyperfeminine in those traits that it serves as some cover for her obvious doping.

    I know I'll get blasted here for suggesting it, but there are probably plenty of white guys who in their "hindbrains" would welcome a piece of that action.

    For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes. She may be juiced up, but she's a woman for sure. The problem with Serena isn't that she's "masculine" (she isn't, really) -- it's that she's a cheat like Barry Bonds.

    No, dude.
    Now, Tori Bowie from the recent women’s 100m ? Okay. She’s pretty. But Serena? Just for having big Ts? No…

  57. @Dave Pinsen
    Mark Rippetoe of Starting Strength argues that strength is one of the few things that an athlete can increase significantly that will in turn improve his athletic performance. The ability to add strength varies according to genetics, age, etc., but anyone can get stronger, often by a lot. On the other hand, attributes such as agility and leaping ability are much more constrained by genetics.

    Recently (like, last week) I switched from a inverted leg press machine to squats with a barbell, after watching Rippetoe on YouTube. I went from 1080 lbs on the machine to 225 lbs on the barbell, and I am feeling fatigue in muscles I have never felt before. Totally different exercise using Rippetoe’s techniques. I wish I had started doing real squats back when I was young and an athlete.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Chris, learn to wrap your knees and check back in a few years and let us know how your knees are holding up. Trying to gain strength after a certain age is not advisable, staying fit and toned is always a good idea.
  58. I remember when Caroline Wozniaki got in trouble for putting breast and butt enhancers on in order to mimic Serena. She did that, however, because she is good friends with her (as are other top tennis players). It’s strange when the people-are-racist-against-Serena articles get written there’s never any confirmation from the woman herself. Or maybe not- total projection.

  59. @Rifleman

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders.
     
    Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders.

    Also Walter Payton, Marcus Allen and others.

    In other words probably ALL the top ten all time NFL running backs!

    Tony Dorsett as well used to hand the ball off to the refs after scoring TDS. And ditto Franco Harris.

    For the most part, WR Larry Fitzgerald of AZ Cardinals hands the ball off to the refs after scoring TDs as well.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    So, in the NFL most of the greats acted like scoring a touchdown was something they've done before and will do again?

    It's kind of like how in baseball the posing at home plate when you are sure you've hit a homer seems in my vague recollection to have been introduced by pretty good players. I can recall being struck by Gary Matthews posing during the 1983 NL playoffs. In contrast, back in 1971 when Reggie Jackson hit his colossal shot in the All-Star Game in Detroit, he immediately started slowly jogging toward first while admiring the arc, even though no ball history was likely to stay in play. Reggie's jog in 1971 was reminiscent of newsreels of Babe Ruth's reaction to homers -- it's bad form to stand at the plate because you know there's no way you'll have to run, but you do know that it's gone.

    (I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson was posing at home later in the 1970s, but I have checked his famous 1971 blast and he didn't.)

  60. @jtgw
    I'm reminded of Harold Abrahams as played by Ben Cross in Chariots of Fire. Remember the scene where he's complaining of all the anti-Semitic microaggressions he has to put up with? Never mind that he's made it to the (second?) most prestigious university in the realm and has been allowed and encouraged to excel in all his athletic pursuits. No, the evil Gentile power structure is still out there to keep him down, and he can prove it because some schmuck dared to give him a limp handshake once.

    The characterization of Harold Abrahams by Ben Cross does not fit accounts of him I’ve read. Among other things, Abrahams converted to Catholicism in the 1930’s.

  61. @Rifleman

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders.
     
    Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders.

    Also Walter Payton, Marcus Allen and others.

    In other words probably ALL the top ten all time NFL running backs!

    It was said of O.J. Simpson that he never spiked the ball. My memory is he didn’t.

    Payton would give the ball to a teammate to spike.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Spiking is so passé. The hot new trend is deflation.

    Maynard Keynes and Galbraith would be heartbroken.
  62. @David In TN
    It was said of O.J. Simpson that he never spiked the ball. My memory is he didn't.

    Payton would give the ball to a teammate to spike.

    Spiking is so passé. The hot new trend is deflation.

    Maynard Keynes and Galbraith would be heartbroken.

  63. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Tony Dorsett as well used to hand the ball off to the refs after scoring TDS. And ditto Franco Harris.

    For the most part, WR Larry Fitzgerald of AZ Cardinals hands the ball off to the refs after scoring TDs as well.

    So, in the NFL most of the greats acted like scoring a touchdown was something they’ve done before and will do again?

    It’s kind of like how in baseball the posing at home plate when you are sure you’ve hit a homer seems in my vague recollection to have been introduced by pretty good players. I can recall being struck by Gary Matthews posing during the 1983 NL playoffs. In contrast, back in 1971 when Reggie Jackson hit his colossal shot in the All-Star Game in Detroit, he immediately started slowly jogging toward first while admiring the arc, even though no ball history was likely to stay in play. Reggie’s jog in 1971 was reminiscent of newsreels of Babe Ruth’s reaction to homers — it’s bad form to stand at the plate because you know there’s no way you’ll have to run, but you do know that it’s gone.

    (I wouldn’t be surprised if Jackson was posing at home later in the 1970s, but I have checked his famous 1971 blast and he didn’t.)

    • Replies: @no name
    Most of the players named that didn't spike the ball or celebrate excessively are older players which would seem to indicate that it's a generational thing. I think rap music has A LOT to do with this.
  64. @Pat Casey
    I don't really know how you would parody what I just read from the Grey lady. We almost sense something unreal is going on; Serena's fans would be as amazed as her foes if white men started lusting over her like I've seen black guys do. I wonder what this piece would have been about is Serena exclusively dated white guys.

    Does that mean I have a chance?

    Seriously. I know I’m not the only white man who thinks she’s hot.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    Yea I'm being a bit jokish but I've always figured standing next to her would feel something odd, pharmones, intimidation, whatever.
  65. I think Claudia Rankine has been reading too much Ta-Nehisi Coates…black bodies, worn down by the racism of people who think they are white.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    How can any black features writer not want to be the next Ta-Nehisi Coates? He's the gold standard in the field of black body self-obsession.
  66. @Steve Sailer
    So, in the NFL most of the greats acted like scoring a touchdown was something they've done before and will do again?

    It's kind of like how in baseball the posing at home plate when you are sure you've hit a homer seems in my vague recollection to have been introduced by pretty good players. I can recall being struck by Gary Matthews posing during the 1983 NL playoffs. In contrast, back in 1971 when Reggie Jackson hit his colossal shot in the All-Star Game in Detroit, he immediately started slowly jogging toward first while admiring the arc, even though no ball history was likely to stay in play. Reggie's jog in 1971 was reminiscent of newsreels of Babe Ruth's reaction to homers -- it's bad form to stand at the plate because you know there's no way you'll have to run, but you do know that it's gone.

    (I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson was posing at home later in the 1970s, but I have checked his famous 1971 blast and he didn't.)

    Most of the players named that didn’t spike the ball or celebrate excessively are older players which would seem to indicate that it’s a generational thing. I think rap music has A LOT to do with this.

  67. I’m used to reading articles like this so they rarely get to me, but this sentence got to me worse than anything Coates has written:

    I couldn’t quite shake the feeling (I still can’t quite shake it) that my body’s frailty, not the cancer but the depth of my exhaustion, had been brought on in part by the constant onslaught of racism, whether something as terrible as the killing of Trayvon Martin or something as mundane as the guy who let the door slam in my face.

    She seems to be saying that racism is killing her and that racism is a white guy letting a door slam in her face and that this is worse than CANCER. Who could read that statement and take it seriously? It’s so ridiculous and the complete opposite of reality, more so than most ridiculous statements from black “intellectuals”.

    OT: I’m sure you know about this Steve but I figured I’d post it anyway. It’s from the New Yorker: Donald Trump and the White Nationalists. Jared Taylor and Vdare get mentioned.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated?intcid=popular

  68. @Big Bill
    Deport the guy? He is a mouthpiece for Haim Saban, the Israeli owner of Univision and a big Republican donor. No chance that Ramos, la piquita Chihuahua, gets deported.

    Haim Saban is a big Democrat donor.

  69. @Don't look at me
    Does that mean I have a chance?

    Seriously. I know I'm not the only white man who thinks she's hot.

    Yea I’m being a bit jokish but I’ve always figured standing next to her would feel something odd, pharmones, intimidation, whatever.

  70. @The man from J.A.M.E.S.
    It's a misconception that Ali was exulting over Liston in the famous picture. According to ringside observers, he shouted something to the effect of "Get up, sucker!"

    He knew Liston had taken a dive.

    If you watch the punch in slow motion (at the end of the clip) it is apparent that a solid punch that Liston did not see landed on the chin, and jerked his head violently to the right.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    Oh, c'mon.
    , @gregor
    Ali did land a sneaky short right and Liston was moving into it, so I don't think it's outrageous that the punch surprised him and dropped him. BUT Liston takes a suspiciously long time to get up, and the part where he's about to get up and then awkwardly flops to his back appears to me to be bad acting. It might just be a case of Liston quitting though, not necessarily a fix.
  71. @dude
    So if one guy in the stadium cheers a Serena opponent, that's terrible. But if the entire Rose Bowl is full of people loudly cheering against the USA national soccer team? Then viva la diversity!

    The main thing is to be rooting against white people.

  72. @Anonymous
    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED's and Ms Williams. I've seen her body type before, many times. She's all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    Incidentally, Drake has lyrics celebrating large derrieres...a physical characteristic preferred by many black men.

    Now, one comment of people visiting that country is how 'masculine' some of the women look. If, as you've argued elsewhere, Black men have higher levels of naturally occurring testosterone, why not the women as well?

    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    What isn’t natural is her reaching her competitive peak at an age when most tennis players have retired, and an age at which even the greats struggle. Being this good this late in her career is suspicious as Hell.

  73. The New York Times has an editorial board slightly less black than the Ferguson, MO police department was when the Times attacked it for only having three blacks on the force. The Ferguson PD was the embodiment of the oppression and injustice the “local white power structure” visits on black Americans as a matter of course and justified, in the eyes of the Times, the “fury” in the streets of Ferguson. At the Times’ baiting, blacks dutifully burned down their neighborhood, a black mob killed a white guy for being white, the gang of Reverends materialized on cue, as did the equally pliant media.

    For the New York Times, blacks are the most one-dimensional creatures on the planet, outside Mexicans. If you were to intersect Ta H’nesi (I refuse to look up the spelling) with this Claudia Rankine, you’d get a plane as flat as Kansas. The New York Times likes their blacks on the intellectual plantation.

    • Agree: Stan D Mute
    • Replies: @Stan D Mute

    For the New York Times, blacks are the most one-dimensional creatures on the planet, outside Mexicans. If you were to intersect Ta H’nesi (I refuse to look up the spelling) with this Claudia Rankine, you’d get a plane as flat as Kansas. The New York Times likes their blacks on the intellectual plantation.
     
    Exactly! The elite WASPS and Jews are far more "racist" than your average southerner flying a Confederate flag. The Southerner knows the negro for who he really is, knows there are some smart, ethical, and moral negroes just as well as he knows how to quickly identify the more common garden variety low IQ, impulsive, hyper-violent thugs. The southerner (or Yankee who's had enough exposure) sees negroes as individuals with a wide variety of character even though there may be more bad than good. The WASP and Jew at the NYT sees *every* negro as a mental incompetent requiring effusive praise for anything positive they do and endless excuses for failure. This allows them to feel superior not only to the negro but to those awful racist southerners who condemn so many poor negroes.
  74. From Black Rage to Roid Rage.

  75. @H2
    Steve's favorite White Hispanic reporter, Jorge Ramos, gets deported from a Trump news conference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzSUx-eLDc

    Here’s a WaPo story on that: First, Trump booted Univision anchor Jorge Ramos out of his news conference. Then things got interesting.

    It starts out this way: Two minutes into Donald Trump’s news conference here Tuesday night came the question he tried to silence.

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude — Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to “silence” him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won’t mind being lied to so blatantly.

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude — Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to “silence” him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.
     
    Ramos did his heavily accented version of BlackLivesMatter taking over a Bernie Sanders event. Trump was right to toss him and should have tossed him again after Ramos came back and refused to abide the rules. No other reporter would have been allowed to monopolize the press conference for five minutes - it was incredibly disrespectful and went a long way toward showing what a huge mistake has been made in allowing these people to come and to stay in America.
    , @Forbes

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won’t mind being lied to so blatantly.
     
    Likely, both.
  76. @jtgw
    I just know that you can't have big boobs when your body fat percentage is as low as Serena's seems to be. Or at least Serena would be the only exception I know of. If the T was turning into E, which you might expect after she retires and stops training, then maybe, but then she'd be getting fat all over.

    Or if I'm talking out my rear and someone can convince me either her tits or muscles are natural, I'm all ears.

    Simona Halep

  77. @The Albino Sasquatch
    I think Claudia Rankine has been reading too much Ta-Nehisi Coates...black bodies, worn down by the racism of people who think they are white.

    How can any black features writer not want to be the next Ta-Nehisi Coates? He’s the gold standard in the field of black body self-obsession.

  78. @Rifleman

    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders.
     
    Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders.

    Also Walter Payton, Marcus Allen and others.

    In other words probably ALL the top ten all time NFL running backs!

    Earl Campbell’s demeanor on the field pretty much ruined me for the modern game. He was a class act.

  79. @e
    When Martina Navratilova started looking bulked up, people turned on her too. For a long while, American crowds loved Martina. They liked rooting for someone with her story, a young woman from a communist country.

    “When Martina Navratilova started looking bulked up, people turned on her too.”

    Only because they feared her black excellence.

  80. @Craig Nelsen
    The New York Times has an editorial board slightly less black than the Ferguson, MO police department was when the Times attacked it for only having three blacks on the force. The Ferguson PD was the embodiment of the oppression and injustice the "local white power structure" visits on black Americans as a matter of course and justified, in the eyes of the Times, the "fury" in the streets of Ferguson. At the Times' baiting, blacks dutifully burned down their neighborhood, a black mob killed a white guy for being white, the gang of Reverends materialized on cue, as did the equally pliant media.

    For the New York Times, blacks are the most one-dimensional creatures on the planet, outside Mexicans. If you were to intersect Ta H'nesi (I refuse to look up the spelling) with this Claudia Rankine, you'd get a plane as flat as Kansas. The New York Times likes their blacks on the intellectual plantation.

    For the New York Times, blacks are the most one-dimensional creatures on the planet, outside Mexicans. If you were to intersect Ta H’nesi (I refuse to look up the spelling) with this Claudia Rankine, you’d get a plane as flat as Kansas. The New York Times likes their blacks on the intellectual plantation.

    Exactly! The elite WASPS and Jews are far more “racist” than your average southerner flying a Confederate flag. The Southerner knows the negro for who he really is, knows there are some smart, ethical, and moral negroes just as well as he knows how to quickly identify the more common garden variety low IQ, impulsive, hyper-violent thugs. The southerner (or Yankee who’s had enough exposure) sees negroes as individuals with a wide variety of character even though there may be more bad than good. The WASP and Jew at the NYT sees *every* negro as a mental incompetent requiring effusive praise for anything positive they do and endless excuses for failure. This allows them to feel superior not only to the negro but to those awful racist southerners who condemn so many poor negroes.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
    Right. If my dog sees a bone on the sidewalk, he'll try to get it. He doesn't stop and think, hmm, is this bone rightfully mine? He sees and snatches. So, I scold, but don't condemn. That's how the NYT treats blacks.
  81. @eah
    Here's a WaPo story on that: First, Trump booted Univision anchor Jorge Ramos out of his news conference. Then things got interesting.

    It starts out this way: Two minutes into Donald Trump's news conference here Tuesday night came the question he tried to silence.

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude -- Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to "silence" him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won't mind being lied to so blatantly.

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude — Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to “silence” him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.

    Ramos did his heavily accented version of BlackLivesMatter taking over a Bernie Sanders event. Trump was right to toss him and should have tossed him again after Ramos came back and refused to abide the rules. No other reporter would have been allowed to monopolize the press conference for five minutes – it was incredibly disrespectful and went a long way toward showing what a huge mistake has been made in allowing these people to come and to stay in America.

  82. @Bill P
    Hypermasculine?! If Serena didn't have the T&A, she could never get away with the steroids. As it is, she is so hyperfeminine in those traits that it serves as some cover for her obvious doping.

    I know I'll get blasted here for suggesting it, but there are probably plenty of white guys who in their "hindbrains" would welcome a piece of that action.

    For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes. She may be juiced up, but she's a woman for sure. The problem with Serena isn't that she's "masculine" (she isn't, really) -- it's that she's a cheat like Barry Bonds.

    “For her part, Serena has been quite modest about her abilities compared to male athletes.”

    I seem to recall a number of years back when John McEnroe, then in his 40’s and possibly playing on the senior circuit of men’s tennis, challenged both Williams sisters to a match, an offer they both declined. He sounded very confident that he could easily beat both of them, even though he was giving away more than 20 years and had retired from major league tennis more than 10 years earlier.

    I believe that Bobby Riggs threw his famous match against Billy Jean King 42 years ago. What most people forget is that before he played King, Riggs played and easily beat Margaret Court of Australia, the top rated woman’s tennis player in the world, despite being more than 20 years older than she and being retired from men’s tennis for more than 20 years. ESPN did a special on the match and established that Riggs didn’t train for the King match the way he had trained for the Court match and may have had large gambling debts, which were erased by throwing the King match. In looking up Riggs vs. King on Wikipedia, I discovered there were other tests between men and women tennis players over the years which I was not aware of, all of which were won by the men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1992:_Navratilova_v_Connors

    Also I have no special knowledge about PEDs, but I wonder if there may be a connection between Serena’s possibly taking such drugs and the fact that she plays a lot less tennis these days, seemingly concentrating on the 4 majors and avoiding the week in-week out tennis tour. Apart from avoiding the chance of discovery, would that allow her body to recover from taking the PEDs? Or do you have to take PEDs all year round to get the benefit?

  83. @WhatEvvs
    Sorry for the OT, but this decision is astounding:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-second-amendment-also-covers-those-in-us-illegally/ar-BBm5Bx1?ocid=spartanntp

    If illegals are covered by the 2nd amendment, then the entirety of constitutional rights applies to them as well. This court has simply abolished citizenship.

    That was the idea, all along, of mass immigration. Dilute citizens’ rights until they’re meaningless. Then you’ll be left with two classes of people: the international elite jet set crowd and all the rest, the lowly peons. Citizenship, national borders and national sovereignty are so 19th century!

  84. Here’s how the White racist power structure oppresses the poor Blacks:

    Imagine if the races were reversed. It’d be international news.

  85. There is no content in this article except the journalist’s own emotions and she is a particularly unempathetic individual.

    The proof is that when she discusses Serena Williams, a very public figure, all she really is talking about is herself. She projects her own emotions onto Serena and indeed onto the whole world around her.

    She is so myopic that the only thing she can see is her own emotional state. I suspect that it is a form of addiction, that is that the journalist and those like her, are essentially drug addicts to their own emotional roller coaster.

    Like drugs addicts they are obsessed and think and talk of nothing else and like drug addicts they are normally very harmful to themselves and those around them.

    The trauma and victimology of the growing #Blacklivesmatter mythos involves an exceptionally strong set of emotions and so provides a greater hit.

    No wonder then that these borderline types are so drawn to it.

    Yes, she wants to be hotter, but more than that, she wants to feel! The stronger the feeling the better, as she is empty inside.

    Humans have created any number of systems to deal with this psychology including prayer, meditation and stoicism.

    Even dancing with her friends around a fireplace beats this public masturbation of her own emotional state.

    Ultimately the fault is with her enablers. Everyone needs other people to set them straight every now and again so that they can properly calibrate their own thinking.

    Her enablers are confusing her passion for deeply held and reasoned belief, and thereby reinforcing it. Those who care about this journalist should question her and prod her back into a less self-absorbed mindset, that is, if they really care.

    Otherwise she will continue to be thrown about in the emotional turbulence and trauma of her own mind.

    A fate that I wish on no-one.

    Or as a Burmese man told me, when describing how a man’s mind is without meditation, she ‘will be crazy like a monkey.’ (A simile that makes a lot of sense if you have ever spent time with monkeys.)

    • Agree: Vendetta
  86. @Anonymous
    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED's and Ms Williams. I've seen her body type before, many times. She's all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    Incidentally, Drake has lyrics celebrating large derrieres...a physical characteristic preferred by many black men.

    Now, one comment of people visiting that country is how 'masculine' some of the women look. If, as you've argued elsewhere, Black men have higher levels of naturally occurring testosterone, why not the women as well?

    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    This is not my observation at all. I wonder whether you are norming her muscularity downward because you see her on TV?

    I can’t think of a better way of expressing that but it is similar to how even female best friend type actresses often look amazing in real life.

    You’re judging muscularity in TV terms, but the women in Africa you are judging in real life terms.

    I have never seen a single women as muscular as Serena, in any country. They do of course exist, but I don’t hang out with pro body builders.

    I do agree that she is still quite attractive, though, but she would be more attractive if she would lay off the androgens, not that the only PEDs she is likely on are androgens.

    There are many others and they are very effective. To win without them would require someone who, if they were as tall as they were athletic, would measure 20 feet.

  87. Frank Deford had a good commentary this morning about how Serena has prospered by not having any serious competition:

    http://www.npr.org/2015/08/26/434642767/what-if-serena-williams-had-faced-tougher-rivals

  88. @Truth
    If you watch the punch in slow motion (at the end of the clip) it is apparent that a solid punch that Liston did not see landed on the chin, and jerked his head violently to the right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADbnYQJg7w

    Oh, c’mon.

  89. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This ‘angry black’ routine has been really fatiguing after all these years. After awhile most of them are just a pain and one is happy just for them to go away and take their attitudes with them. Lots of people make more out of sports that what it is, that it has some great meaning. An example would be the Louis-Schmeling fights where it’s been endlessly repeated even till today that their bouts represented the clash of countries of the period whereas it’s nothing of the sort. Neither Louis nor Williams represents me in any manner whatsoever.

  90. @Priss Factor
    Consider the logic of Political Correctness.

    It's 'racist' to think blacks are wild and aggressive.

    You see, blacks are 'nice' like everyone else.

    But it's also 'racist' to expect blacks to be 'nice'.

    Authentic blackness is about being wild and aggressive.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    In a nutshell, it's 'racist' to say blacks are too loud.

    But it's also 'racist' to expect blacks to mind their manners.

    Why? Because blacks are naturally loud.

    If whites notice blacks are louder, that is 'racist'. If blacks say they are louder, that's pride.
    It's like if you say Jews are pushy, that's 'antisemitic'. If Jews say they are pushy, it's the pride of chutzpah.

    The only way to resolve this issue is with race-ism, and I know because I'm the only true race-ist.
    By race-ism, I mean race + ism = belief in races and racial differences.

    What the writer is saying is that we need different standards of behavior for blacks. What is the norm for whites, Asians, and Mexicans cannot be the norm for blacks. Blacks are just naturally louder and wilder. It's like expecting pit bulls to act at all times like golden retrievers.
    But then, this idea that we need different norms for blacks is race-ist because it's premised on perception that different races have different personalities. She bitches about 'racism' but makes a race-ist argument, i.e. we should allow different norms for blacks cuz black nature is to be loud and wild. Blacks style is akin to what you see in WWE wrestling.

    (As for the beauty issue, I don't know why people try to apply it to sports. Sports is about power, and some athletes are beautiful, some are not. Russian weightlifters are big and strong, but no one would say they are beautiful. Ali was a good looking guy but Tyson was ugly.)

    Btw, the 'racism' this woman is talking about is really about SWPL kind. After all, Obama became president because he was the Nice Negro preferred by Liberal whites. Morgan Freeman became a top actor with his neo-Uncle-Tom act. Malcolm Gladwell has been promoted for his goofy mulatto-ness.
    And despite his supposed rage politics, The Hissy Coates is a rather borky guy--black dorky. He's not the 'threatening' type. TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD is about a nice kindly innocent Negro who done no wrong. In GREEN MILE, a bigass Negro who could break the empire state building in two just goes weepy over a little white mouse. Libs love Oprah, the empowered neo-mammy.

    The fact is big cities revived cuz SWPL elected politicians who used STOP-AND-FRISK and gentrification to control the wilder blacks, many of whom ended up in jail or relocated elsewhere.

    As the woman wrote for NYT, she couldn't spell this out, but this is really about a Lib vs Lib War.
    It is an essay version of BLM activists who messed up SWPL white gentification 'progressive' fest of Bernie Sanders. SWPL types may profess to be admire the likes of Jack Johnson by praising UNFORGIVABLE BLACKNESS but the likes of Ken Burns would rather live with Negroes who are more like Jarrett, Obama, Gladwell, Coates, and etc. Real tough Negroes rap about their body and yammer about muscles and puds. It is the borky Coates who 'intellectualize' that stuff to win plaudits from a small Japanese American reviewer at NYT.

    I would argue that everything is race-ist. I am. But so is the woman writer. Her article makes no sense UNLESS we accept the premise that blacks are indeed different and feel stifled when living by white standards. But then, Americans have said the same thing about Japan. What is the norm for Japanese isn't the norm for whites. Whites will find it repressive.

    https://youtu.be/yiw2NULDjKM?t=2m17s

    So, I will meet this writer half-way in my honest race-ist way.

    Yes, it is unnatural and stifling for blacks to repress their natural blackness and act according to white norms. Blacks have a natural need to holler more, jive more, dance more, and act out more. Evolution made them that way.

    But just as that's natural for blacks due to race-ist difference, it is also natural for non-blacks to fear blacks more, not want to live wild and dangerous blacks, feel sickened by obnoxious black behavior, and etc.

    The truth of race-ism(racial differences) naturally makes blacks want to act more aggressive.

    The truth of race-ism also naturally makes non-blacks want to live apart from blacks who act threatening, wild, and trashy. What is the norm for black nature isn't the norm for non-blacks.
    As blacks are naturally stronger, the combination of natural aggressiveness and stronger muscle power creates a lot of problems for other races. It is no wonder that racial violence is mostly black on white, black on brown, black on Asian, black on Jewish, black on Arab, etc.

    How to solve this problem.

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don't mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don't act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.

    And let blacks stay among theyselves. But but but... here's the problem. When all those blacks in black communities naturally act black, they tend to fight, rape, holler and woller, kill one another, tear things down, burn things down, and ruin everything... which is why blacks want to move to white nations/communities than stay in their own black-made nations and communities.

    Would something like sports franchises and systems exist in the first place if everyone acted like blacks? Black nature is better at tearing things down than building things up.
    Blacks may win in sports, but all sports industries are run and managed and financed by non-blacks who act more with their minds and manners than with their butts and guts.

    Anyway, it's natural for blacks to holler, jive, and act wild.
    It is natural for us to not want to live with people who act that way.

    Race-ism teaches us that different races exist and racial differences matter. Blacks are more aggressive, stronger, wilder, and more childlike. They can't help theyselves. We should let them be black in their black communities.

    But let us be naturally like ourselves in our communities where we don't act loud, wild, crazy, abrasive, and funkyass.
    Blacks will tear their communities apart with their nature, and that's their problem.
    We will build up and maintain our communities with more even and balanced behavior.
    Let blacks be black in the black world, and let us be us in our world. Just keep blacks out. And if blacks find white norms so 'racist', they should stay in Africa instead of moving to Europe in search of Boatright Citizenship.

    Btw, the woman writer of the article surely owes her career as writer to the white/Jewish establishment that can actually run and maintain a media organization. If blacks ran the media industry, it would go the way of most African countries since too many blacks would be acting wild and stupid like Serena.

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don’t mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don’t act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.

    Just wondering, but what about the many civilised blacks and the many hollering whites?

    I get that you are not the one who introduced the racial lens into this discussion’s examination of behaviour, but it is a question worth asking.

    Ignore the article. The woman feels all sorts of feelings. That is all it is. Her own undeveloped psychology laid out on a computer screen.

    She doesn’t want you to try and reason with her and provide a solution. She needs/craves you to listen, acknowledge her pain and then tell her she’s being silly and put her to bed.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "Just wondering, but what about the many civilised blacks and the many hollering whites?"

    Trust me. When whites act like Haven Monahan, it's a big big deal in the media.
  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The white power structure forces black football players to merely hand the ball to the ref with an aw shucks look.
     
    The one black football player I remember actually doing that was the incomparable Barry Sanders. When asked about it once, he said his father had told him, "when you get to the end zone, act like you've been there before".

    Tennis fans dislike most moody players looking for attention. McEnroe was hated at Wimbledon for years and more recently Djokovic was disliked early in his career for his nutty father in the stands and complaining. OTOH, Nadal is very humble and one of the most beloved tennis players of all time. Federer as well. It has nothing to do with race.

    • Replies: @Truth
    "It has nothing to do with race."

    You're new here, stick around.
  92. @eah
    Here's a WaPo story on that: First, Trump booted Univision anchor Jorge Ramos out of his news conference. Then things got interesting.

    It starts out this way: Two minutes into Donald Trump's news conference here Tuesday night came the question he tried to silence.

    Did anyone else see it that way? I thought Ramos was obnoxiously self-righteous and rude -- Trump clearly said it was not his turn to ask a question. But he did get his turn later, and, far from trying to "silence" him, Trump literally steamrolled his questions.

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won't mind being lied to so blatantly.

    The WaPo must think its readers are really stupid, or such ideologues that they won’t mind being lied to so blatantly.

    Likely, both.

  93. The black lady writer said:

    …. in the words of Kanye West, ‘‘That’s what it is, black excellence, baby.’

    A statement like that probably deserves a “death of satire among the left” comment. Or no comment at all, so that it may be allowed to bask in it’s oxymoronic splendor without distraction. But I can’t help but wonder why an article about black excellence would quote a man who had attained said excellence, yet parted ways with blackness – to one degree or another – by his mate choice (the sort of white Kim Kardashian.) Why is it that so many blacks who achieve “excellence” try to escape their blackness? As I said…oxymoronic.

    And here’s an example of his “excellence” :

  94. @Priss Factor
    Consider the logic of Political Correctness.

    It's 'racist' to think blacks are wild and aggressive.

    You see, blacks are 'nice' like everyone else.

    But it's also 'racist' to expect blacks to be 'nice'.

    Authentic blackness is about being wild and aggressive.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    In a nutshell, it's 'racist' to say blacks are too loud.

    But it's also 'racist' to expect blacks to mind their manners.

    Why? Because blacks are naturally loud.

    If whites notice blacks are louder, that is 'racist'. If blacks say they are louder, that's pride.
    It's like if you say Jews are pushy, that's 'antisemitic'. If Jews say they are pushy, it's the pride of chutzpah.

    The only way to resolve this issue is with race-ism, and I know because I'm the only true race-ist.
    By race-ism, I mean race + ism = belief in races and racial differences.

    What the writer is saying is that we need different standards of behavior for blacks. What is the norm for whites, Asians, and Mexicans cannot be the norm for blacks. Blacks are just naturally louder and wilder. It's like expecting pit bulls to act at all times like golden retrievers.
    But then, this idea that we need different norms for blacks is race-ist because it's premised on perception that different races have different personalities. She bitches about 'racism' but makes a race-ist argument, i.e. we should allow different norms for blacks cuz black nature is to be loud and wild. Blacks style is akin to what you see in WWE wrestling.

    (As for the beauty issue, I don't know why people try to apply it to sports. Sports is about power, and some athletes are beautiful, some are not. Russian weightlifters are big and strong, but no one would say they are beautiful. Ali was a good looking guy but Tyson was ugly.)

    Btw, the 'racism' this woman is talking about is really about SWPL kind. After all, Obama became president because he was the Nice Negro preferred by Liberal whites. Morgan Freeman became a top actor with his neo-Uncle-Tom act. Malcolm Gladwell has been promoted for his goofy mulatto-ness.
    And despite his supposed rage politics, The Hissy Coates is a rather borky guy--black dorky. He's not the 'threatening' type. TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD is about a nice kindly innocent Negro who done no wrong. In GREEN MILE, a bigass Negro who could break the empire state building in two just goes weepy over a little white mouse. Libs love Oprah, the empowered neo-mammy.

    The fact is big cities revived cuz SWPL elected politicians who used STOP-AND-FRISK and gentrification to control the wilder blacks, many of whom ended up in jail or relocated elsewhere.

    As the woman wrote for NYT, she couldn't spell this out, but this is really about a Lib vs Lib War.
    It is an essay version of BLM activists who messed up SWPL white gentification 'progressive' fest of Bernie Sanders. SWPL types may profess to be admire the likes of Jack Johnson by praising UNFORGIVABLE BLACKNESS but the likes of Ken Burns would rather live with Negroes who are more like Jarrett, Obama, Gladwell, Coates, and etc. Real tough Negroes rap about their body and yammer about muscles and puds. It is the borky Coates who 'intellectualize' that stuff to win plaudits from a small Japanese American reviewer at NYT.

    I would argue that everything is race-ist. I am. But so is the woman writer. Her article makes no sense UNLESS we accept the premise that blacks are indeed different and feel stifled when living by white standards. But then, Americans have said the same thing about Japan. What is the norm for Japanese isn't the norm for whites. Whites will find it repressive.

    https://youtu.be/yiw2NULDjKM?t=2m17s

    So, I will meet this writer half-way in my honest race-ist way.

    Yes, it is unnatural and stifling for blacks to repress their natural blackness and act according to white norms. Blacks have a natural need to holler more, jive more, dance more, and act out more. Evolution made them that way.

    But just as that's natural for blacks due to race-ist difference, it is also natural for non-blacks to fear blacks more, not want to live wild and dangerous blacks, feel sickened by obnoxious black behavior, and etc.

    The truth of race-ism(racial differences) naturally makes blacks want to act more aggressive.

    The truth of race-ism also naturally makes non-blacks want to live apart from blacks who act threatening, wild, and trashy. What is the norm for black nature isn't the norm for non-blacks.
    As blacks are naturally stronger, the combination of natural aggressiveness and stronger muscle power creates a lot of problems for other races. It is no wonder that racial violence is mostly black on white, black on brown, black on Asian, black on Jewish, black on Arab, etc.

    How to solve this problem.

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don't mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don't act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.

    And let blacks stay among theyselves. But but but... here's the problem. When all those blacks in black communities naturally act black, they tend to fight, rape, holler and woller, kill one another, tear things down, burn things down, and ruin everything... which is why blacks want to move to white nations/communities than stay in their own black-made nations and communities.

    Would something like sports franchises and systems exist in the first place if everyone acted like blacks? Black nature is better at tearing things down than building things up.
    Blacks may win in sports, but all sports industries are run and managed and financed by non-blacks who act more with their minds and manners than with their butts and guts.

    Anyway, it's natural for blacks to holler, jive, and act wild.
    It is natural for us to not want to live with people who act that way.

    Race-ism teaches us that different races exist and racial differences matter. Blacks are more aggressive, stronger, wilder, and more childlike. They can't help theyselves. We should let them be black in their black communities.

    But let us be naturally like ourselves in our communities where we don't act loud, wild, crazy, abrasive, and funkyass.
    Blacks will tear their communities apart with their nature, and that's their problem.
    We will build up and maintain our communities with more even and balanced behavior.
    Let blacks be black in the black world, and let us be us in our world. Just keep blacks out. And if blacks find white norms so 'racist', they should stay in Africa instead of moving to Europe in search of Boatright Citizenship.

    Btw, the woman writer of the article surely owes her career as writer to the white/Jewish establishment that can actually run and maintain a media organization. If blacks ran the media industry, it would go the way of most African countries since too many blacks would be acting wild and stupid like Serena.

    Skia, I award you the Golden Border. Nicely stated.

  95. @Chrisnonymous
    Recently (like, last week) I switched from a inverted leg press machine to squats with a barbell, after watching Rippetoe on YouTube. I went from 1080 lbs on the machine to 225 lbs on the barbell, and I am feeling fatigue in muscles I have never felt before. Totally different exercise using Rippetoe's techniques. I wish I had started doing real squats back when I was young and an athlete.

    Chris, learn to wrap your knees and check back in a few years and let us know how your knees are holding up. Trying to gain strength after a certain age is not advisable, staying fit and toned is always a good idea.

  96. Jack Johnson to Serena Williams. 103 years between their births and, according to the Coates/Rankines of the world, nothing seems to have changed.

    Doesn’t say much for the blank slate, no matter how you look at it.

  97. I can’t read articles like this without mentally translating the prose into a 19th century negro dialect.

  98. “A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own”

    well DUH!!! there is no affirmative action for white people,

  99. @Truth
    If you watch the punch in slow motion (at the end of the clip) it is apparent that a solid punch that Liston did not see landed on the chin, and jerked his head violently to the right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADbnYQJg7w

    Ali did land a sneaky short right and Liston was moving into it, so I don’t think it’s outrageous that the punch surprised him and dropped him. BUT Liston takes a suspiciously long time to get up, and the part where he’s about to get up and then awkwardly flops to his back appears to me to be bad acting. It might just be a case of Liston quitting though, not necessarily a fix.

  100. I imagine the image of some guy at the U.S. Open, being hectored by some hostile, SJWer Negress from the NYT (over his support for a Belarusian player), until he finally just up and leaves, and I can’t help but crack a grin. These people are so devoid of class, and have absolutely no awareness of it. Because they think “class” is a series of political positions they can adopt. It never occurs to them, that a modicum courtesy & decorum, is also a part of the I’m-Not-a-Rube Starter Kit.

  101. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:
    @Deduction

    Have blacks live among each other. That way, blacks can act normally and naturally black all they want. They can holler, scream, jive, shuck, boogie woogie, juggalo wuggalo, and etc. I don’t mind blacks acting the fool among theyselves.

    But let non-blacks live in their own communities where they have different norms of behavior. Where they don’t act like juggalo wugglo punkass jivers, where they respect one another as decent well-behaved citizens.
     
    Just wondering, but what about the many civilised blacks and the many hollering whites?

    I get that you are not the one who introduced the racial lens into this discussion's examination of behaviour, but it is a question worth asking.

    Ignore the article. The woman feels all sorts of feelings. That is all it is. Her own undeveloped psychology laid out on a computer screen.

    She doesn't want you to try and reason with her and provide a solution. She needs/craves you to listen, acknowledge her pain and then tell her she's being silly and put her to bed.

    “Just wondering, but what about the many civilised blacks and the many hollering whites?”

    Trust me. When whites act like Haven Monahan, it’s a big big deal in the media.

  102. @ricpic
    Claudia be ANGRY!

    Not as angry as SHEMAN Serena arguing with a judge. Her arms are bigger than some gay guys waists. When John McEnroe says you are a poor sportsman he should be counted as an expert.

  103. @Jacobite

    at the U.S. Open in 2009, ... she told the lineswoman, ‘‘I swear to God I am [expletive] going to take this [expletive] ball and shove it down your [expletive] throat.’’
     
    Testosterone will do that for you!

    They should have that random drug tester SHEMAN ran away from in 2011 to back up the line judges.

  104. @eah
    A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own.

    I'm not sure I understand this sentence. But the rest of the article is perfectly clear. Ahem.

    A crucial component of white privilege is the idea that your accomplishments can be, have been, achieved on your own.
    I’m not sure I understand this sentence. But the rest of the article is perfectly clear.

    She is saying that the Wright bros wouldn’t have gotten off the ground if not for blacks picking cotton. She would have been part of the mule train protesting the moon landing.

  105. @Anonymous
    Steve: having lived in a majority black country in the Americas I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED's and Ms Williams. I've seen her body type before, many times. She's all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    Incidentally, Drake has lyrics celebrating large derrieres...a physical characteristic preferred by many black men.

    Now, one comment of people visiting that country is how 'masculine' some of the women look. If, as you've argued elsewhere, Black men have higher levels of naturally occurring testosterone, why not the women as well?

    s I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.

    I started working in inner city hospitals back when I believed in equalism. Even after I acknowledged reality I kept up for years more as it was worth earning more in 2 days than full time work in a nice hospital 50 min away. I have never seen any black women that look as manly as Serena except for some bad drag queens. I am pretty sure her breasts & backside are silicon.

    • Replies: @Truth
    "I have never seen any black women that look as manly as Serena except for some bad drag queens. I am pretty sure her breasts & backside are silicon."

    I'm with you Bro, I've been telling people for years she got those 4 implants when she was 14!
  106. @Stan D Mute

    For the New York Times, blacks are the most one-dimensional creatures on the planet, outside Mexicans. If you were to intersect Ta H’nesi (I refuse to look up the spelling) with this Claudia Rankine, you’d get a plane as flat as Kansas. The New York Times likes their blacks on the intellectual plantation.
     
    Exactly! The elite WASPS and Jews are far more "racist" than your average southerner flying a Confederate flag. The Southerner knows the negro for who he really is, knows there are some smart, ethical, and moral negroes just as well as he knows how to quickly identify the more common garden variety low IQ, impulsive, hyper-violent thugs. The southerner (or Yankee who's had enough exposure) sees negroes as individuals with a wide variety of character even though there may be more bad than good. The WASP and Jew at the NYT sees *every* negro as a mental incompetent requiring effusive praise for anything positive they do and endless excuses for failure. This allows them to feel superior not only to the negro but to those awful racist southerners who condemn so many poor negroes.

    Right. If my dog sees a bone on the sidewalk, he’ll try to get it. He doesn’t stop and think, hmm, is this bone rightfully mine? He sees and snatches. So, I scold, but don’t condemn. That’s how the NYT treats blacks.

  107. @K.K.
    I like Serena. She has a temper, but is generally down to earth, and always honest and frank.

    I just don't understand why so many Black athletes - many of whom know that this 'oppression' narrative is pure nonsense - let themselves be used by these kind of racehustlers.

    Poor, oppressed Black athletes...

    Honest, frank and more juiced than Arnold before Mr. Olympia ’77.

  108. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    “BigGaySteve”

    What’s with the tutti-fruity stuff?

  109. @Anonymous
    Tennis fans dislike most moody players looking for attention. McEnroe was hated at Wimbledon for years and more recently Djokovic was disliked early in his career for his nutty father in the stands and complaining. OTOH, Nadal is very humble and one of the most beloved tennis players of all time. Federer as well. It has nothing to do with race.

    “It has nothing to do with race.”

    You’re new here, stick around.

  110. @BigGaySteve

    s I would bet heavily that you are mistaken about PED’s and Ms Williams. I’ve seen her body type before, many times. She’s all natural and quite attractive IMHO.
     
    I started working in inner city hospitals back when I believed in equalism. Even after I acknowledged reality I kept up for years more as it was worth earning more in 2 days than full time work in a nice hospital 50 min away. I have never seen any black women that look as manly as Serena except for some bad drag queens. I am pretty sure her breasts & backside are silicon.

    “I have never seen any black women that look as manly as Serena except for some bad drag queens. I am pretty sure her breasts & backside are silicon.”

    I’m with you Bro, I’ve been telling people for years she got those 4 implants when she was 14!

  111. Racism causes cancer! Who knew? Maybe we need a national conversation about race….

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