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With Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) much talked about as a natural for a future Democratic national ticket, it’s possible that Diveroli/Botach/Boteach family history may be furnishing us with material for comic movies ripped from the headlines for decades to come.

From The Forward:

The Bromance Ends: What Split Cory Booker and Shmuley Boteach?
Nathan Guttman April 10, 2016

It was the future U.S. senator from New Jersey’s first Purim party, back at Oxford University in the 1990s. The home video shows a young Cory Booker dancing in circles and carrying on his back a bearded man dressed in a clown suit – Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.

Shmuley Boteach is the uncle of international arms dealer Efraim Diveroli of the Jonah Hill movie War Dogs.

But today, instead of bringing a smile to the faces of those involved, the recent re-emergence of this video has only served to worsen open wounds that have yet to heal.

“It took me back all those years. And it made me incredibly sad,” wrote Boteach in his Jerusalem Post column, stating he feels it is now harder for him to forgive Booker, the junior senator from New Jersey.

The battle waged last summer over the nuclear deal with Iran has left divisions still visible in many parts of the American Jewish and wider pro-Israel community, but nowhere more so than in its impact on the once-tight relationship between the black pol and the Jewish preacher. …

The Booker–Boteach dispute also presents a broader question for the Jewish community: Do years of support, both political and financial, of a politician entail a promise in advance that he will side with the community on key issues with broad national impact? …

Boteach prides himself on having introduced Booker to the Jewish community two and a half decades ago. It’s a role that no one denies he played.

Like I said the day I first heard about this clan:

Overall, it just sounds like a whole family full of self-starters.

 
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  1. They all look like they’re having fun in that video.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Anonymous

    I wonder which of them was the top when the camera stopped running.

  2. @Anonymous
    They all look like they're having fun in that video.

    Replies: @5371

    I wonder which of them was the top when the camera stopped running.

  3. I’ve never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States’ foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don’t coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh’s whims, or American political maneuvering.

    • Replies: @anon
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    I’ve never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States’ foreign policy. Jews had to...
     
    US politicians are almost entirely bought (or blackmailed) at the national level but the military aren't (yet) so there's a conflict.

    Military people aren't stupid but they do like to think in straight lines so for example if a stated strategy is to produce a better outcome in a region they get confused when the tactics used seem to be designed to create permanent internal chaos.

    (This is because the real strategy is to cause permanent internal chaos as that means they are no threat to Israel.)

    The corrupted pols don't care but the current military don't like killing lots of people unless the end result is better and definitely not if the end result is deliberately worse.

    They'd be fine with it if the strategy was actually aimed at making things better.

    .

    The current culture war on the military is similar to the one waged on the police 30 years ago. The bad guys are creating artificial PC hurdles so only those officers who'll swallow anything for promotion stay on and all the decent officers are filtered out.

    Eventually all the senior military officers will be as scummy as current senior police and will do whatever they are told.

    (which will probably involve nukes)

    #

    underlying reason

    Jews lost their homeland c. 2000 years ago and only survived as a distinct nation by developing cultural and genetic traits that allowed them to survive as a nation while living as a dispersed minority.

    One of those traits was paranoia.

    Paranoia is self-fulfilling.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @ic1000
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    > Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don’t coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh’s whims, or American political maneuvering.

    “Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”

    Vis-a-vis the U.S., Israel has demonstrated that it understands this maxim. This should provide useful perspective to the complaint that the U.S. is throwing Israel under the bus.

    , @Big Bill
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    If Galut Jews are so infuriated with WASPs, why don't they make aliyah like they are supposed to? Why don't they "rise up" (aliyah) from the filth and degradation of The Nations and go home to build a real Jewish Nation with their people?

    For all their whingeing you would think they never read Herzl, for goodness sakes!

    I have about as much sympathy for "oppressed" Galut Jews as PM Ariel Sharon had when French Jews started complaining they weren't safe in France: none at all.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Kyle
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    Jews need to assimilate completely and loose their identity. Or move to israel.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company,
     
    This might have been true in 1936 or maybe even in 1976, but old school anti-Semitic Arabist WASPs don't even run the CIA and the State Dept. any more let alone Congress or the rest of America. If you go looking for the old WASP establishment, it's gone, kaput, finito, extinct, as rare as white rhinos. Their 1.2 sons or daughters are living in lesbian communes in Vermont or saving the whales in the rain forest or else they have married Jews (one of FDR's great grandsons is a rabbi). The current Supreme Court consists of 5 Catholics and 3 Jews and zero WASPs. Kerry and Albright pretended to be bona fide WASPs but were really Marranos. Aldrich Ames is serving a life sentence in Allenwood prison. The head of the CIA is a good Irish Catholic boy. Wake up boy, it's the current year.

    Replies: @eggheadshadhisnumber, @anon, @Anonymous

    , @ATBOTL
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    If the way the US government has been run for the last 50 years is not good enough for Jews, they will never be happy.

    This comment is the kind of extreme selfish chutzpah that causes hostility to Jews.

    , @Sean
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    http://www.jta.org/2015/02/18/news-opinion/united-states/as-david-cohen-becomes-cias-no-2-jews-appear-to-have-smoother-sailing-at-security-agencies
    A seasoned Ivy League lawyer who began his career defending the right of religious groups to display menorahs on government property, [David] Cohen was the Obama administration’s top Iran sanctions official as the Treasury Department’s undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence.
     
    There is no government upper tier reserved for elite WASPs where they could revile Jews as such with impunity, even if they wanted to. Jews have headed the CIA twice, and David Cohen is not even the first person of that name to be no 2 at the CIA. Wasps have disappeared from the supreme court, which is 33% Jewish. There may be some WASPs in the State department but Israel's problems with US foriegn policy stem from Israel having been founded as an ethno state, and WASP anti-ethnostate idealism, marching on largely without actual WASPs, has passed it by.
  4. Just like Hillary’s career seems like it was designed consciously so that she should be the first female president, Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president: All-American athlete, well-spoken, urban mayor leading with poverty issues, climbs to senator, etc. Obama’s quick assent must’ve really angered a lot of black political elite until he assuaged them with advisory positions and causing race riots.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @whorefinder

    "Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:"

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Replies: @fish, @flyingtiger, @Avenge Harambe, @Tony

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @whorefinder

    whorefinder, This quote about Booker,...." a politician with more ambition than attention span, " says a lot about him. Booker, and Obama and Hillary, start campaigning for the next step on the ladder before they have accomplished anything of note. He spent most of his term as mayor of Trenton giving speeches out of state, which led to this quote...." you can be a rock star or the mayor but you can't be both."

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  5. Corey Booker should keep a copy of this tape just in case he’s ever attacked for not being pro-Israel enough…

  6. If Cory Booker runs for president either in 2020 or 2024, he can’t brag about having a track record of being an awesome mayor of Newark. Crime in Newark did not go down under his watch. Cory is basically the second coming of David Dinkins.

  7. I’m really not interested in seeing the sex tape….

  8. @whorefinder
    Just like Hillary's career seems like it was designed consciously so that she should be the first female president, Booker's always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should've been the first black president: All-American athlete, well-spoken, urban mayor leading with poverty issues, climbs to senator, etc. Obama's quick assent must've really angered a lot of black political elite until he assuaged them with advisory positions and causing race riots.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Buffalo Joe

    “Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:”

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Jefferson


    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

     

    Uh....sorry....that spot in history has already been taken.




    (But keep it on the down low would ya.....)
    , @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    I thought Obama had that role?

    , @Avenge Harambe
    @Jefferson

    Think again...

    , @Tony
    @Jefferson

    If Booker is gay, he's a pretty macho homo. Doesnt have any gay tells in walk, talk, or mannerisms. He looks like he could handle most guys in a fight.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  9. My Lord, “Shmuley”. I couldn’t think of a more semitic name.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Steve Smith’s good buddy Snot’s real name is Shmuley.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    Schmuley is a nickname for Schmul which in turn is just the original Hebrew pronunciation of the common biblical name Samuel. In another era (one where the impulse was toward assimilation) he would have been "Sam" or "Sammy". Basically he is Schmuley for the same reason that Shawn is now D'shawntavious.

    Replies: @Moshe

  10. “key issues with broad national impact”

    Does anything that happens in Iran have much impact on the US? It’s not as Iran is forcing Saudi Arabia and Iraq to give all their oil to China and boycott the US.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous Nephew

    What's getting not as much attention as it probably should: the list of countries currently involved in the Syrian civil war now includes Iran, China, Russia, the US, and Turkey.

    Replies: @Kyle

  11. @Anonymous Nephew
    "key issues with broad national impact"

    Does anything that happens in Iran have much impact on the US? It's not as Iran is forcing Saudi Arabia and Iraq to give all their oil to China and boycott the US.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    What’s getting not as much attention as it probably should: the list of countries currently involved in the Syrian civil war now includes Iran, China, Russia, the US, and Turkey.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Dave Pinsen

    Is there an oil pipeline involved

  12. The racism of having a black man ridden like a horse by a white man…I can’t even. Boteach and Booker both will have to answer for this.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Dennis Dale

    It's like somebody is enacting an anti-Semitic cartoon, with a Jewish man riding a Black person.

    Replies: @Olorin

  13. So these are the people who rule over our country? Shame on us for being fools.

  14. • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous Nephew

    "The name of the French Sudden Jihad Syndrome man – Smail (Ismail?) Ayad."

    In the initial report I saw, the murderer was described as "a french man" - sure, that's his most salient characteristic, and Ayad is a fine old gallic name.

  15. What break with the Jewish community? Booker is #3 on the list of which members of Congress get the most money from pro-Israel PACs.

    maplight.org/us-congress/interest/J5100/view/all

    But it was definitely arrogant of Booker to vote against the wishes of our Overlords.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Greg Bacon

    Been an open secret for some time that Booker really lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, and merely has a PO box apartment in Newark to stay eligible. And Brooklyn has several Orthodox/Hasidic communities who like nothing better than having a mayor or senator on speed dial for a few shekels. But to his supposed greatness; only a slight less empty suit than Obama. Booker's term in Newark made a disgusting blighted crime-ridden slum into a ...disgusting blighted crime-ridden slum with a safe zone for white people to spend money at an NHL hockey arena in the middle.

  16. @Dennis Dale
    The racism of having a black man ridden like a horse by a white man...I can't even. Boteach and Booker both will have to answer for this.

    Replies: @Romanian

    It’s like somebody is enacting an anti-Semitic cartoon, with a Jewish man riding a Black person.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Romanian

    Thing is, this is exactly precisely a Jewish man riding a Black person.

    So why does making it a cartoon put it in a different ontological category? I mean, a cartoon is just some lines on a background.

    This is actually a Jewish man riding a Black person.

  17. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Politicians aren’t corrupted when they reach high office.

    They are corrupted at the first rung of the ladder so they’re guaranteed to be corrupt when they reach high office.

    (or blackmailable – hence why so many fake “conservative” pols are homosexual or pedophiles)

    (worse part of that is as homosexuality is normalized the bad guys will need to use pedophile politicians more often)

  18. “but nowhere more so than in its impact on the once-tight relationship between the black pol and the Jewish preacher.”

    Can we get an Amen somebody?

    Seriously, its a bit of a contradiction to say ‘Jewish preacher’ when the term “preacher” tends to be used when describing Christian religious leaders. After all, they wouldn’t say ‘Jewish Imam’ now would they, ’cause that wouldn’t make any sense. And we’d never read of a ‘Islamic Rabbi’ in any sense of the word.

    Think the writer dropped the ball on that one, with or without the clown suit.

  19. Shabbos Boy…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Blobby5

    That's a good one.

  20. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    I’ve never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States’ foreign policy. Jews had to…

    US politicians are almost entirely bought (or blackmailed) at the national level but the military aren’t (yet) so there’s a conflict.

    Military people aren’t stupid but they do like to think in straight lines so for example if a stated strategy is to produce a better outcome in a region they get confused when the tactics used seem to be designed to create permanent internal chaos.

    (This is because the real strategy is to cause permanent internal chaos as that means they are no threat to Israel.)

    The corrupted pols don’t care but the current military don’t like killing lots of people unless the end result is better and definitely not if the end result is deliberately worse.

    They’d be fine with it if the strategy was actually aimed at making things better.

    .

    The current culture war on the military is similar to the one waged on the police 30 years ago. The bad guys are creating artificial PC hurdles so only those officers who’ll swallow anything for promotion stay on and all the decent officers are filtered out.

    Eventually all the senior military officers will be as scummy as current senior police and will do whatever they are told.

    (which will probably involve nukes)

    #

    underlying reason

    Jews lost their homeland c. 2000 years ago and only survived as a distinct nation by developing cultural and genetic traits that allowed them to survive as a nation while living as a dispersed minority.

    One of those traits was paranoia.

    Paranoia is self-fulfilling.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon

    Paranoids have enemies too, and not just self-created ones.

    Israel and Iran are not natural enemies- under the Shah relations were very good. But it's hard for fundamentalist Muslims like the Shiite clerics who currently rule Iran to be friends with kufrs of any kind.

    The long term solution is to get rid of theocratic rule in Iran. But Iran has the same problem as Turkey - the religiously conservative countryside keeps winning the demographic race so they can never quite make it to modernity.

  21. he’s boteach’n him a lesson you’re the donkey ,unclean but useful.

  22. That video is just plain fucking weird. These people are supposed to be adults?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Dr. X

    In their defense, it was the ''90s, and there was a belief then that private videos would not be mainlined into everyone's home.

  23. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    > Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don’t coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh’s whims, or American political maneuvering.

    “Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”

    Vis-a-vis the U.S., Israel has demonstrated that it understands this maxim. This should provide useful perspective to the complaint that the U.S. is throwing Israel under the bus.

  24. @Blobby5
    Shabbos Boy...

    Replies: @Anonymous

    That’s a good one.

  25. Speaking of, I sent you the URL of Adelson pouring a ton of money to try to undo the BDS college campus movement.

  26. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    If Galut Jews are so infuriated with WASPs, why don’t they make aliyah like they are supposed to? Why don’t they “rise up” (aliyah) from the filth and degradation of The Nations and go home to build a real Jewish Nation with their people?

    For all their whingeing you would think they never read Herzl, for goodness sakes!

    I have about as much sympathy for “oppressed” Galut Jews as PM Ariel Sharon had when French Jews started complaining they weren’t safe in France: none at all.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Big Bill

    I couldn't find the "no complaining allowed" exception to the First Amendment. Does this apply only to Jews or are those of French, German, English, etc. descent also required to leave if they voice any dissatisfaction with the policies of the US government?

    Herzl was not the pope of the Jews. The Jews don't have a pope. Jews, like most other people, don't usually leave the country of their birth for a poorer country (Israel is doing well economically but is still poorer than the US) unless conditions are really bad. A small % of the Jews of Israel arrived for ideological reasons because they bought into Zionism, but most are there because the places that they left were really shitty. Most American Jews are doing pretty well right where they are so only a few have made aliyah. Consider the Jews to be the canaries in the coal mine. If Jews really do start pulling up stakes from the US in large numbers, it won't be a good sign. Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.

    Replies: @utu

  27. @Jefferson
    @whorefinder

    "Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:"

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Replies: @fish, @flyingtiger, @Avenge Harambe, @Tony

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Uh….sorry….that spot in history has already been taken.

    (But keep it on the down low would ya…..)

  28. @Anonymous Nephew
    The name of the French Sudden Jihad Syndrome man - Smail (Ismail?) Ayad.

    http://www.9news.com.au/National/2016/08/24/07/14/Woman-found-dead-following-suspected-knife-attack-in-north-Queensland

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “The name of the French Sudden Jihad Syndrome man – Smail (Ismail?) Ayad.”

    In the initial report I saw, the murderer was described as “a french man” – sure, that’s his most salient characteristic, and Ayad is a fine old gallic name.

  29. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    Jews need to assimilate completely and loose their identity. Or move to israel.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kyle

    You may get your wish, but paradoxically the way you do this is to kill the Jews with kindness. Back in the day, when white America was still really white America, many American Jews were down with your plan but non-Jews were not - no way were they letting their daughters marry Jews or let Jews into their universities, law firms, board rooms, etc.

    Does the assimilate or leave requirement apply only to Jews or does it include Amish, Italians, Mormons, etc. Does assimilation mean that Jews have to become at least nominal Protestants or is it OK if they just become atheists? Is it enough just to have a Christmas tree or do you actually have to go to church once in awhile? Do they have to vote Republican like other white people? Are you still allowed to eat ethnic food? I'm just not clear on how your plan would work.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon

  30. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous Nephew

    What's getting not as much attention as it probably should: the list of countries currently involved in the Syrian civil war now includes Iran, China, Russia, the US, and Turkey.

    Replies: @Kyle

    Is there an oil pipeline involved

  31. My eyes hurt.

    Damn you, Sailer!

  32. @Jefferson
    @whorefinder

    "Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:"

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Replies: @fish, @flyingtiger, @Avenge Harambe, @Tony

    I thought Obama had that role?

  33. @BenKenobi
    My Lord, "Shmuley". I couldn't think of a more semitic name.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Steve Smith's good buddy Snot's real name is Shmuley.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrVGLnX0AA

    Replies: @Jack D

    Schmuley is a nickname for Schmul which in turn is just the original Hebrew pronunciation of the common biblical name Samuel. In another era (one where the impulse was toward assimilation) he would have been “Sam” or “Sammy”. Basically he is Schmuley for the same reason that Shawn is now D’shawntavious.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Jack D

    Untrue.

    The Orthodox Jewish community has always used Shmuley as a name for their children. I have a nephew named Shmuley and an uncle named (and called) Shmelky.

    No Shawn to Dwa'shavious here.

    It's also a beautiful name by the way (Shmuley, not Shmelkie).

  34. @Jefferson
    @whorefinder

    "Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:"

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Replies: @fish, @flyingtiger, @Avenge Harambe, @Tony

    Think again…

  35. @Greg Bacon
    What break with the Jewish community? Booker is #3 on the list of which members of Congress get the most money from pro-Israel PACs.

    maplight.org/us-congress/interest/J5100/view/all

    But it was definitely arrogant of Booker to vote against the wishes of our Overlords.

    Replies: @Bugg

    Been an open secret for some time that Booker really lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, and merely has a PO box apartment in Newark to stay eligible. And Brooklyn has several Orthodox/Hasidic communities who like nothing better than having a mayor or senator on speed dial for a few shekels. But to his supposed greatness; only a slight less empty suit than Obama. Booker’s term in Newark made a disgusting blighted crime-ridden slum into a …disgusting blighted crime-ridden slum with a safe zone for white people to spend money at an NHL hockey arena in the middle.

  36. @anon
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    I’ve never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States’ foreign policy. Jews had to...
     
    US politicians are almost entirely bought (or blackmailed) at the national level but the military aren't (yet) so there's a conflict.

    Military people aren't stupid but they do like to think in straight lines so for example if a stated strategy is to produce a better outcome in a region they get confused when the tactics used seem to be designed to create permanent internal chaos.

    (This is because the real strategy is to cause permanent internal chaos as that means they are no threat to Israel.)

    The corrupted pols don't care but the current military don't like killing lots of people unless the end result is better and definitely not if the end result is deliberately worse.

    They'd be fine with it if the strategy was actually aimed at making things better.

    .

    The current culture war on the military is similar to the one waged on the police 30 years ago. The bad guys are creating artificial PC hurdles so only those officers who'll swallow anything for promotion stay on and all the decent officers are filtered out.

    Eventually all the senior military officers will be as scummy as current senior police and will do whatever they are told.

    (which will probably involve nukes)

    #

    underlying reason

    Jews lost their homeland c. 2000 years ago and only survived as a distinct nation by developing cultural and genetic traits that allowed them to survive as a nation while living as a dispersed minority.

    One of those traits was paranoia.

    Paranoia is self-fulfilling.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Paranoids have enemies too, and not just self-created ones.

    Israel and Iran are not natural enemies- under the Shah relations were very good. But it’s hard for fundamentalist Muslims like the Shiite clerics who currently rule Iran to be friends with kufrs of any kind.

    The long term solution is to get rid of theocratic rule in Iran. But Iran has the same problem as Turkey – the religiously conservative countryside keeps winning the demographic race so they can never quite make it to modernity.

  37. @Kyle
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    Jews need to assimilate completely and loose their identity. Or move to israel.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You may get your wish, but paradoxically the way you do this is to kill the Jews with kindness. Back in the day, when white America was still really white America, many American Jews were down with your plan but non-Jews were not – no way were they letting their daughters marry Jews or let Jews into their universities, law firms, board rooms, etc.

    Does the assimilate or leave requirement apply only to Jews or does it include Amish, Italians, Mormons, etc. Does assimilation mean that Jews have to become at least nominal Protestants or is it OK if they just become atheists? Is it enough just to have a Christmas tree or do you actually have to go to church once in awhile? Do they have to vote Republican like other white people? Are you still allowed to eat ethnic food? I’m just not clear on how your plan would work.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Do they have to vote Republican like other white people?"

    You act like White people vote in a monolithic racial bloc for The Republican Party. I wish that was the case, but unfortunately far from it. If it was, Donald Trump would be well ahead of Crooked Hildabeast in the polls. Donald Trump would be leading in do or die key battleground states like Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, and Nevada if White people voted like a monolithic racial bloc.

    Right now Donald Trump's share of the White vote is lower than Mitt Romney's share. Donald Trump can't even crack 60 percent of the White vote, let alone 70 percent of the White vote which is what is required for him to win the presidency.

    , @anon
    @Jack D


    Does assimilation mean...
     
    It's too late now as the damage is done but at a bare minimum "assimilation" means don't engage in stealth cultural warfare against the host society in order to weaken it and thereby make it "safe" for a minority group as it will always lead to either expulsion or the eventual collapse of the host society.

    Too late now of course.

    Time will tell if east Asians figure out a way to prevent the same thing happening to them.
  38. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company,

    This might have been true in 1936 or maybe even in 1976, but old school anti-Semitic Arabist WASPs don’t even run the CIA and the State Dept. any more let alone Congress or the rest of America. If you go looking for the old WASP establishment, it’s gone, kaput, finito, extinct, as rare as white rhinos. Their 1.2 sons or daughters are living in lesbian communes in Vermont or saving the whales in the rain forest or else they have married Jews (one of FDR’s great grandsons is a rabbi). The current Supreme Court consists of 5 Catholics and 3 Jews and zero WASPs. Kerry and Albright pretended to be bona fide WASPs but were really Marranos. Aldrich Ames is serving a life sentence in Allenwood prison. The head of the CIA is a good Irish Catholic boy. Wake up boy, it’s the current year.

    • Replies: @eggheadshadhisnumber
    @Jack D

    Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews, to a degree unseen even among rural Arabian populations. An ambitious Jew will find this attitude confronting them at any number of points in their professional career, albeit easily overcome.

    Replies: @utu, @Anonymous

    , @anon
    @Jack D

    You oscillate between denial and gloating.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Kerry's mother was a member of the Boston Brahmin Forbes family, so he really is part-WASP and not a Marrano.

  39. @Big Bill
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    If Galut Jews are so infuriated with WASPs, why don't they make aliyah like they are supposed to? Why don't they "rise up" (aliyah) from the filth and degradation of The Nations and go home to build a real Jewish Nation with their people?

    For all their whingeing you would think they never read Herzl, for goodness sakes!

    I have about as much sympathy for "oppressed" Galut Jews as PM Ariel Sharon had when French Jews started complaining they weren't safe in France: none at all.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I couldn’t find the “no complaining allowed” exception to the First Amendment. Does this apply only to Jews or are those of French, German, English, etc. descent also required to leave if they voice any dissatisfaction with the policies of the US government?

    Herzl was not the pope of the Jews. The Jews don’t have a pope. Jews, like most other people, don’t usually leave the country of their birth for a poorer country (Israel is doing well economically but is still poorer than the US) unless conditions are really bad. A small % of the Jews of Israel arrived for ideological reasons because they bought into Zionism, but most are there because the places that they left were really shitty. Most American Jews are doing pretty well right where they are so only a few have made aliyah. Consider the Jews to be the canaries in the coal mine. If Jews really do start pulling up stakes from the US in large numbers, it won’t be a good sign. Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Jack D

    "Consider the Jews to be the canaries in the coal mine." - Could you explain then what was the appeal of Poland? Is it that 75% of all Jews in the world have their roots in Poland? Was 17, 18 and 19 century Poland the best place for Jews in the world? So why Poland gets such a bad rap? Still after the WWI additional 800,000 Jews from Soviet territories were allowed to settle in Poland. And they stayed there, over 3 millions of them till 1939? Where was their canary-in-the-mine instinct?

  40. @Dr. X
    That video is just plain fucking weird. These people are supposed to be adults?

    Replies: @bomag

    In their defense, it was the ”90s, and there was a belief then that private videos would not be mainlined into everyone’s home.

  41. @Jack D
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company,
     
    This might have been true in 1936 or maybe even in 1976, but old school anti-Semitic Arabist WASPs don't even run the CIA and the State Dept. any more let alone Congress or the rest of America. If you go looking for the old WASP establishment, it's gone, kaput, finito, extinct, as rare as white rhinos. Their 1.2 sons or daughters are living in lesbian communes in Vermont or saving the whales in the rain forest or else they have married Jews (one of FDR's great grandsons is a rabbi). The current Supreme Court consists of 5 Catholics and 3 Jews and zero WASPs. Kerry and Albright pretended to be bona fide WASPs but were really Marranos. Aldrich Ames is serving a life sentence in Allenwood prison. The head of the CIA is a good Irish Catholic boy. Wake up boy, it's the current year.

    Replies: @eggheadshadhisnumber, @anon, @Anonymous

    Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews, to a degree unseen even among rural Arabian populations. An ambitious Jew will find this attitude confronting them at any number of points in their professional career, albeit easily overcome.

    • Replies: @utu
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    "Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews" - Do speak from a personal experience as the upper-crust Catholic or middle-class Jew?

    , @Anonymous
    @eggheadshadhisnumber

    Why would upper-crust Catholics be jealous of or hate middle-class Jews?

  42. Jews got good ethnic music.

  43. @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    Schmuley is a nickname for Schmul which in turn is just the original Hebrew pronunciation of the common biblical name Samuel. In another era (one where the impulse was toward assimilation) he would have been "Sam" or "Sammy". Basically he is Schmuley for the same reason that Shawn is now D'shawntavious.

    Replies: @Moshe

    Untrue.

    The Orthodox Jewish community has always used Shmuley as a name for their children. I have a nephew named Shmuley and an uncle named (and called) Shmelky.

    No Shawn to Dwa’shavious here.

    It’s also a beautiful name by the way (Shmuley, not Shmelkie).

  44. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    If the way the US government has been run for the last 50 years is not good enough for Jews, they will never be happy.

    This comment is the kind of extreme selfish chutzpah that causes hostility to Jews.

  45. Jews have an uneasy and changing relationship in the West. On the one hand, its hard to get more White American assimilated than say, Secretary of the Confederate Treasury, Judah P. Benjamin. Or Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, and “Uncle Milty.” And early one in places like Rome and Gaul, lots of Jews just assimilated into the general population. But other places and time have not been so accommodating, like France in the late 1800s with the Dreyfuss Affair.

    And in the same way, Israel faces various chaotic crises on its borders. Egypt is barely governed by a Military intent on keeping the Muslim Brotherhood/Sharia out of control for fear of bankrupting the nation and provoking many Holy Wars not just with Israel, that Egypt would lose. ISIS is on its various flanks, fighting Hezbollah also an enemy. An enemy like the Sauds are also defacto allies against Iranian nukes, while Iran and Russia (and now Turkey … MAYBE) fights ISIS.

    But certainly Iranian nukes makes life worse not better for Israelis, eventually Iran or ISIS will win and then Iran will turn its attention in a nuclear fashion towards Israel. Which in turn will have to either nuke first or be nuked first. Its not as if one can trust the Iranian Mullahs to act rationally — these are the people who sent child soldiers as mine clearers in the Iran-Iraq War.

    The Bottom Line is that Cory Booker voted BLACK to make Barack Obama happy with his “Peace in our Time Deal” (or rather, the REAL President Valerie Jarrett, Obama just watches Sportscenter and golfs); and Shmuley Boteach knows well a lot of his relatives in Israel will die in a nuclear fireball because of it. Not today, but eventually.

    And a larger issue is that Jews cannot remain in government, NGOs, Entertainment, Hollywood, anything because Blacks WANT THEIR JOBS and figure they are owed them. Thus “Oscars So White” etc. — Black mean “So Jewish” and want them cleansed along with other White people so they can take their jobs.

    IF the economy were expanding, with rising wages and employment and LABOR SHORTAGE, there would be no problem. Enough jobs to satisfy even Affirmative Action incompetents carried on because of the inability of many/most Blacks to fit into cognitively demanding jobs. That’s not the case — the likely outcome is Blacks in the high paying jobs as figureheads, and day labor for the cognitive elite without connections and power at the highest level. Chelsea Clinton will be fine. Ordinary Whites particularly including Jews (who Blacks dislike because of their higher cognitive levels and Whiteness) not so much.

  46. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    I've never understood this persistent misconception among much of the Unz Review commentariat that Israel directs much of the United States' foreign policy. Jews had to hint at expanding their nuclear retaliation beyond the Middle East just so Americans would ship them some supplies via Operation Nickle Grass, to counteract Soviet support for Arab antagonists. The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company, which is doubly infuriating given Jewish contributions to and adoption of WASP culture, to say nothing of Western civilization. Israel is thrown under the bus when their interests don't coincide with those of Western arms dealers, Riyadh's whims, or American political maneuvering.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000, @Big Bill, @Kyle, @Jack D, @ATBOTL, @Sean

    http://www.jta.org/2015/02/18/news-opinion/united-states/as-david-cohen-becomes-cias-no-2-jews-appear-to-have-smoother-sailing-at-security-agencies
    A seasoned Ivy League lawyer who began his career defending the right of religious groups to display menorahs on government property, [David] Cohen was the Obama administration’s top Iran sanctions official as the Treasury Department’s undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence.

    There is no government upper tier reserved for elite WASPs where they could revile Jews as such with impunity, even if they wanted to. Jews have headed the CIA twice, and David Cohen is not even the first person of that name to be no 2 at the CIA. Wasps have disappeared from the supreme court, which is 33% Jewish. There may be some WASPs in the State department but Israel’s problems with US foriegn policy stem from Israel having been founded as an ethno state, and WASP anti-ethnostate idealism, marching on largely without actual WASPs, has passed it by.

  47. @Jack D
    @Kyle

    You may get your wish, but paradoxically the way you do this is to kill the Jews with kindness. Back in the day, when white America was still really white America, many American Jews were down with your plan but non-Jews were not - no way were they letting their daughters marry Jews or let Jews into their universities, law firms, board rooms, etc.

    Does the assimilate or leave requirement apply only to Jews or does it include Amish, Italians, Mormons, etc. Does assimilation mean that Jews have to become at least nominal Protestants or is it OK if they just become atheists? Is it enough just to have a Christmas tree or do you actually have to go to church once in awhile? Do they have to vote Republican like other white people? Are you still allowed to eat ethnic food? I'm just not clear on how your plan would work.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon

    “Do they have to vote Republican like other white people?”

    You act like White people vote in a monolithic racial bloc for The Republican Party. I wish that was the case, but unfortunately far from it. If it was, Donald Trump would be well ahead of Crooked Hildabeast in the polls. Donald Trump would be leading in do or die key battleground states like Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, and Nevada if White people voted like a monolithic racial bloc.

    Right now Donald Trump’s share of the White vote is lower than Mitt Romney’s share. Donald Trump can’t even crack 60 percent of the White vote, let alone 70 percent of the White vote which is what is required for him to win the presidency.

  48. OT

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/25/university-of-chicago-to-freshmen-we-do-not-suppor/

    University of Chicago to freshmen: We do not support ‘trigger warnings,’ ‘safe spaces’

    “Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so called ‘trigger warnings,’ we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” [the dean of students for undergraduates] wrote.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @theo the kraut

    Look what happened to Mizzou: http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/24/black-lives-matter-has-officially-cost-mizzou-2100-students/

  49. They look like their having fun anyway.

  50. @Jack D
    @Big Bill

    I couldn't find the "no complaining allowed" exception to the First Amendment. Does this apply only to Jews or are those of French, German, English, etc. descent also required to leave if they voice any dissatisfaction with the policies of the US government?

    Herzl was not the pope of the Jews. The Jews don't have a pope. Jews, like most other people, don't usually leave the country of their birth for a poorer country (Israel is doing well economically but is still poorer than the US) unless conditions are really bad. A small % of the Jews of Israel arrived for ideological reasons because they bought into Zionism, but most are there because the places that they left were really shitty. Most American Jews are doing pretty well right where they are so only a few have made aliyah. Consider the Jews to be the canaries in the coal mine. If Jews really do start pulling up stakes from the US in large numbers, it won't be a good sign. Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.

    Replies: @utu

    “Consider the Jews to be the canaries in the coal mine.” – Could you explain then what was the appeal of Poland? Is it that 75% of all Jews in the world have their roots in Poland? Was 17, 18 and 19 century Poland the best place for Jews in the world? So why Poland gets such a bad rap? Still after the WWI additional 800,000 Jews from Soviet territories were allowed to settle in Poland. And they stayed there, over 3 millions of them till 1939? Where was their canary-in-the-mine instinct?

  51. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    @Jack D

    Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews, to a degree unseen even among rural Arabian populations. An ambitious Jew will find this attitude confronting them at any number of points in their professional career, albeit easily overcome.

    Replies: @utu, @Anonymous

    “Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews” – Do speak from a personal experience as the upper-crust Catholic or middle-class Jew?

  52. @theo the kraut
    OT

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/25/university-of-chicago-to-freshmen-we-do-not-suppor/

    University of Chicago to freshmen: We do not support ‘trigger warnings,’ ‘safe spaces’


    “Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so called ‘trigger warnings,’ we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” [the dean of students for undergraduates] wrote.
     

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  53. @whorefinder
    Just like Hillary's career seems like it was designed consciously so that she should be the first female president, Booker's always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should've been the first black president: All-American athlete, well-spoken, urban mayor leading with poverty issues, climbs to senator, etc. Obama's quick assent must've really angered a lot of black political elite until he assuaged them with advisory positions and causing race riots.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Buffalo Joe

    whorefinder, This quote about Booker,….” a politician with more ambition than attention span, ” says a lot about him. Booker, and Obama and Hillary, start campaigning for the next step on the ladder before they have accomplished anything of note. He spent most of his term as mayor of Trenton giving speeches out of state, which led to this quote….” you can be a rock star or the mayor but you can’t be both.”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Buffalo Joe

    Sorry, Booker was the mayor of Newark, not Trenton.

  54. @Buffalo Joe
    @whorefinder

    whorefinder, This quote about Booker,...." a politician with more ambition than attention span, " says a lot about him. Booker, and Obama and Hillary, start campaigning for the next step on the ladder before they have accomplished anything of note. He spent most of his term as mayor of Trenton giving speeches out of state, which led to this quote...." you can be a rock star or the mayor but you can't be both."

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Sorry, Booker was the mayor of Newark, not Trenton.

  55. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Kyle

    You may get your wish, but paradoxically the way you do this is to kill the Jews with kindness. Back in the day, when white America was still really white America, many American Jews were down with your plan but non-Jews were not - no way were they letting their daughters marry Jews or let Jews into their universities, law firms, board rooms, etc.

    Does the assimilate or leave requirement apply only to Jews or does it include Amish, Italians, Mormons, etc. Does assimilation mean that Jews have to become at least nominal Protestants or is it OK if they just become atheists? Is it enough just to have a Christmas tree or do you actually have to go to church once in awhile? Do they have to vote Republican like other white people? Are you still allowed to eat ethnic food? I'm just not clear on how your plan would work.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon

    Does assimilation mean…

    It’s too late now as the damage is done but at a bare minimum “assimilation” means don’t engage in stealth cultural warfare against the host society in order to weaken it and thereby make it “safe” for a minority group as it will always lead to either expulsion or the eventual collapse of the host society.

    Too late now of course.

    Time will tell if east Asians figure out a way to prevent the same thing happening to them.

  56. @Jack D
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company,
     
    This might have been true in 1936 or maybe even in 1976, but old school anti-Semitic Arabist WASPs don't even run the CIA and the State Dept. any more let alone Congress or the rest of America. If you go looking for the old WASP establishment, it's gone, kaput, finito, extinct, as rare as white rhinos. Their 1.2 sons or daughters are living in lesbian communes in Vermont or saving the whales in the rain forest or else they have married Jews (one of FDR's great grandsons is a rabbi). The current Supreme Court consists of 5 Catholics and 3 Jews and zero WASPs. Kerry and Albright pretended to be bona fide WASPs but were really Marranos. Aldrich Ames is serving a life sentence in Allenwood prison. The head of the CIA is a good Irish Catholic boy. Wake up boy, it's the current year.

    Replies: @eggheadshadhisnumber, @anon, @Anonymous

    You oscillate between denial and gloating.

  57. @Jefferson
    @whorefinder

    "Booker’s always seemed like his was designed consciously like he should’ve been the first black president:"

    Cory Booker can still make history by becoming the first Gay Black president.

    Replies: @fish, @flyingtiger, @Avenge Harambe, @Tony

    If Booker is gay, he’s a pretty macho homo. Doesnt have any gay tells in walk, talk, or mannerisms. He looks like he could handle most guys in a fight.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tony

    Senator Booker played two seasons at tight end for Stanford, catching 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cory-booker-1.html

    Here are a couple of nice plays by Booker against Notre Dame:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj9RGepksl8

    He was picked out as a likely First Black President a long time ago, probably with better reason than Obama.

    Replies: @Tony

  58. @Tony
    @Jefferson

    If Booker is gay, he's a pretty macho homo. Doesnt have any gay tells in walk, talk, or mannerisms. He looks like he could handle most guys in a fight.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Senator Booker played two seasons at tight end for Stanford, catching 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cory-booker-1.html

    Here are a couple of nice plays by Booker against Notre Dame:

    He was picked out as a likely First Black President a long time ago, probably with better reason than Obama.

    • Replies: @Tony
    @Steve Sailer

    So he was pretty good as a "tight end." C'mon I couldnt resist that one.

  59. Cory Booker is black?!?

  60. @Steve Sailer
    @Tony

    Senator Booker played two seasons at tight end for Stanford, catching 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cory-booker-1.html

    Here are a couple of nice plays by Booker against Notre Dame:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj9RGepksl8

    He was picked out as a likely First Black President a long time ago, probably with better reason than Obama.

    Replies: @Tony

    So he was pretty good as a “tight end.” C’mon I couldnt resist that one.

  61. @Romanian
    @Dennis Dale

    It's like somebody is enacting an anti-Semitic cartoon, with a Jewish man riding a Black person.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Thing is, this is exactly precisely a Jewish man riding a Black person.

    So why does making it a cartoon put it in a different ontological category? I mean, a cartoon is just some lines on a background.

    This is actually a Jewish man riding a Black person.

  62. @Jack D
    @eggheadshadhisnumber


    The WASPs at Langley and Washington privately revile Jews and gleefully denounce them in polite company,
     
    This might have been true in 1936 or maybe even in 1976, but old school anti-Semitic Arabist WASPs don't even run the CIA and the State Dept. any more let alone Congress or the rest of America. If you go looking for the old WASP establishment, it's gone, kaput, finito, extinct, as rare as white rhinos. Their 1.2 sons or daughters are living in lesbian communes in Vermont or saving the whales in the rain forest or else they have married Jews (one of FDR's great grandsons is a rabbi). The current Supreme Court consists of 5 Catholics and 3 Jews and zero WASPs. Kerry and Albright pretended to be bona fide WASPs but were really Marranos. Aldrich Ames is serving a life sentence in Allenwood prison. The head of the CIA is a good Irish Catholic boy. Wake up boy, it's the current year.

    Replies: @eggheadshadhisnumber, @anon, @Anonymous

    Kerry’s mother was a member of the Boston Brahmin Forbes family, so he really is part-WASP and not a Marrano.

  63. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    @Jack D

    Upper-crust Catholics hold an idiosyncratic jealousy and hatred of middle-class Jews, to a degree unseen even among rural Arabian populations. An ambitious Jew will find this attitude confronting them at any number of points in their professional career, albeit easily overcome.

    Replies: @utu, @Anonymous

    Why would upper-crust Catholics be jealous of or hate middle-class Jews?

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