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Kant’s categorical imperative is:

Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.[1]

Sen. Mazie Hirono’s definition of sexual harassment is not, yet, a universal law, but if it were …

If acted upon universally in the manner of Kant’s categorical imperative, Senator Mazie Hirono’s definition of sexual harassment –“since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors?” — would lead to the eventual extinction of the human race.

Granted, Ms. Barrett’s requests for sexual favors have probably not very often turned out to be unwanted, but for the rest of us, there’s a certain stochastic element in carrying on the human race. In late 1992, for example, I predicted Bill Clinton would get into a huge sexual harassment scandal because not even Bill Clinton could have batted a perfect 1.000 in requests for sexual favors. Eventually, that woman turned up in Paula Jones, which set off the Lewinsky scandal.

December 3, 1992

A specter is haunting the Clinton Presidency, one that the President-Elect needs to defuse immediately.

The move to drive liberal, pro-feminist Republican Senator Robert Packwood from office as retribution for his quarter century of goatish solicitations of female employees and lobbyists would appear to only solidify the Democratic domination of Washington, but a precedent is being established that could eventually shake the Democratic establishment. Many Democrats luminaries are in danger, not because they are Packwood-style mashers, but because the definition of sexual harassment being wielded against Packwood — “making unwanted sexual advances toward those working for him or with him” — is so broad that a substantial fraction of all men would be implicated, assuming the office Christmas parties I’ve attended are representative.

Now, most Americans’ attitude toward sexual harassment is that they know it when they see it. Everybody would include the quid pro quo, “Sleep with me or lose your job,” whether spoken or unspoken. Many would target physical advances, especially Packwood’s pawing, slobbering, chase ’em around the desk style reminiscent of a ’50s sex comedy’s Dirty Old Boss. Many Americans would also be hard on adulterous advances, although journalists have been reticent on this aspect of Packwood’s delinquencies.

Yet none of these characteristics are necessary under the modern strict constructionist formulation of the crime. For example, Anita Hill never alledged any quid pro quo, physical contact, or adulterous intent.

Further, most Americans would probably censure the industrial scale lecher. Some might distinguish between sexual and romantic advances, although others might find that naive, requiring Godlike insight into the human soul. A more workable distinction might be between flirtation and indecent proposals, although once again the line would be hard to draw. Likewise, some would castigate boorish, Marlon Brandoish advances, but exempt debonair Cary Grantish passes. Others might find this distinction a matter of taste. Many would single out recurrent advances, although others would have a hard time distinguishing between the chronic harasser and the lovelorn swain. Yet, none of these exacerbating factors, subjective as they are, are required under the fundamentalist proscription. A further oddity is that no advance no matter how obnoxious is prohibited as long as it ultimately turns out to be wanted.

The word in the orthodox description that expecially troubles Americans (and baffles Europeans) is “unwanted.” Logically speaking, we could, like the Khmer Rouge in the Year Zero, try to abolish all sexual advances, unwanted and wanted. Given enough secret policemen, it might almost be doable. But to try to eliminate just the advances that turn out to be “unwanted” while preserving the “wanted” ones, requires not just a police state but a time machine. (Possibly, some of the formulators understood this, and simply intended to discourage all male advances. For example, the pioneering theorist, Professor Catharine MacKinnon, has avowed that she thinks all heterosexual intercourse is either rape or prostitution.)

Trust me, few guys like getting rejected. It’s just that no advance is wanted or unwanted until it’s made. Unwanted sexual advances are the price we all pay for the survival of the species. Maybe I’m just biased; see, my all time personal favorite office sexual advance was the one my Dad made my Mom in 1946. Still, I suspect that women today are probably more dependent on meeting men at work than in 1946, and thus are even less interested in outlawing wanted advances

Surveys report that a large minority of American women say they have been sexually harassed. What these confirm is that the majority of women don’t take the fundamentalist definition seriously, otherwise the surveys would find not 30% or 40% agreement, but virtually 100% . What self respecting woman would admit that no man had ever made an unwanted sexual advance toward her? She’d be admitting either that no man’s ever made her a sexual advance or that she’s never met a sexual advance she didn’t like.

Unfortunately for the honchos of the Democratic party, the truest believers in the nefariousness of unwanted sexual advances are politicized liberal career women in the media, the law, academia, government work, and politics; in other words, exactly those women toward whom so many liberal politicians have made so many on-the-job passes, wanted and unwanted, over the decades. Democrats have made much political hay out of sexual harassment since Anita Hill, but the old boys are about to be hoisted by their own petard.

Senator Kennedy, of course, has dug himself into a hole so deep over the years that there is almost a Falstaffian grandeur to his predicament. A far more intriguing potential target, though, is Bill Clinton.

I know of no evidence whatsoever that Clinton has ever made “unwanted sexual advances to women who worked for him or with him.” Yet, if I were an investigative reporter wishing to make a name for myself as the Woodward/Bernstein of the 90’s, I’d be highly intrigued by these facts: Governor Clinton has for many years presided over thousands of female state employees. By his own testimony, he has not always paid strict attention to his marriage vows. Finally, he is widely reputed to be a man like any other man, only more so.

On the other hand, Mr. Clinton is younger and more Kennedyesque than the hapless Mr. Packwood, so a higher proportion of any propositions he might have made would have ultimately proven to be “wanted,” thus letting him off the hook, according to the fascinating logic of current harassment theory. Yet, not even Warren Beatty has a career batting average of 1.000. So, all in all, it seems likely that some enterprising reporter is going to think it worth his while to go Pulitzer hunting among the secretarial pools and law offices of Little Rock. I’m sure they’ve been raked over before by journalists, but they were looking for the wrong kind of woman. Far more scandalous in today’s environment would be the story of the woman who didn’t commit adultery with Bill Clinton.

Most likely, the reporter won’t find anybody who’ll say anything. Quite possibly, there is nothing to be said. But if there is, at any moment over the next four years a vast brouhaha may erupt. While initially amusing to contemplate, the thought of a Watergate-like paralysis of the executive branch, followed by an Al Gore Presidency and a retributive Democratic attack on every Republican who has ever winked at a pretty girl, is not.

If Mr. Clinton has any secret worries on this score, he should act now. A vague confession and apology would cause a short flurry of tsk-tsking, but the ultimate loser would not be the President but the expansive definition of sexual harassment. The fundamental political flaw with thedemonization of “unwanted sexual advances toward someone who works for or with you” is that, if the office Christmas parties I’ve attended are representative, scores of millions of American men are guilty of this heinous offense (as are millions of American women).

As a parallel, consider how the short-lived marijuana witch hunt of 1987 was declawed. When Judge Douglas Ginsburg’s nomination to the Supreme Court was deep-sixed by his admitting to having smoked the demon weed, it briefly seemed likely that by the logic of the scandal much of an entire generation would be permanently disqualified from high office. Fortunately, due to the immediate ‘fessing-up of younger Presidential candidates like Al Gore and Bruce Babbitt, this potential inquisition sputtered out. Of course, it flared up again farcically in 1992 when Governor Bill confessed that he had toked, but never inhaled.

Which is another reason why I’d like to see Mr. Clinton address the subject of any past indiscretions: not only would it be good for the country, but judging from his previous equivocations, we can expect another doozy.

I couldn’t find anybody to publish this in 1992.

Of course, this turned out to be a pretty good prediction of the Paula Jones scandal of Gov. Clinton exposing himself to a state employee, for which Clinton was eventually disbarred and had to pay her $850,000

Here’s something I wrote 27 years ago in the wake of the Anita Hill brouhaha:

Senator Charged with Humor Harassment

WASHINGTON, D.C. — “Practically every evening for a month in 1978, the Senator would come into my office and close the door,” tearfully recounts a former campaign worker. “He’d look me over slyly, then ask, ‘What’s green and skates?’ I’d answer, ‘I don’t know, Senator.’ And he’d chortle, ‘Peggy Phlegm!'”

“I was sitting on the men’s room toilet,” recalls another one-time staffer. “Finding me trapped there, Senator Noland stood outside my stall for 20 minutes telling me jokes like, ‘What did the snail say when it climbed on the back of the tortoise? “YA-HOO!”‘”

Washington has been rocked by accusations by two dozen former employees and acquaintances that Senator Edmund Noland, (D-Alaska), who was reelected in 1998 under the slogan “Serious Times Require a Serious Senator,” made unwanted humor attempts. Although Congress exempted itself from the Humor Harassment Act of 1997, the revelations have already led to demands for public hearings on the scandal involving the man previously admired as the dean of the New Earnestness.

“It’s not about humor, it’s about power,” explains humor harassment expert Dr. Malachi Bismarck, “The power to inflict your personality on your helpless, cringing underlings.”

One victim of the Senator’s unwanted humor attempts admits, “Sure, sometimes he told good jokes. But, who can remember the funny ones? It’s the painfully embarrassing stinkers that haunt you to the grave.”

A former aide reveals how his hero-worship had turned to horror. “I went to work for him because of his thought-provoking speeches against racism, the deficit, nuclear winter, global warming, and the coming ice age.” But a shrouded side of his idol emerged during a routine 1994 hearing on an Air Force training program for pilots from Spain, when Senator Noland leaned over and whispered to his aide, “I hear the handbook is called ‘How to Make the Spanish Fly.’ . . . Get it? Spanish fly! Hnnh? Hnnh? Get it?” and heartily elbowed his aghast assistant.

When asked about the incident, the Senator would only comment, “Some people, they just don’t get it.”

“The Senator would tell me how Jesus and St. Peter are playing golf and Jesus keeps trying to hit just a 5-wedge like Arnold Palmer does on this long 240 foot par 7 over a lake, but he can’t hit it far enough, so he walks on the water to get his ball out of the lake, and so this golfer behind asks, ‘Who does he think he is, Jesus Christ?'” recalls one time aide Nick Hill.

“Sure, I laughed then, but Dr. Bismarck’s Humor Victims Support Group has helped me see how degrading it was,” reflects Hill. “Why is it supposed to be funny when St. Peter says, ‘No, He is Jesus Christ, He just thinks He’s Arnold Palmer?’ I mean, who is this Arnold Palmer person?”

“The Senator relished fake dog-doo and squirting boutonnieres,” recollects a Greenpeace lobbyist, a longtime political ally. “We Beltway oldtimers had to warn the younger ones not to meet with him alone on April 1st. Then, there were his dialect jokes: he’d start off with the appropriate Scottish or French accent or whatever, but would inevitably slide back to his all purpose Irish brogue, complete with ‘Faith and begorrah,’ by the punchline. That is, when he could remember the punchline. I don’t know how many times he told me about the dyslexic agnostic who lies awake at night wondering, ‘Is there a God?'”

The Senator’s friend, Washington lawyer Jack Kravits, contends, “It’s not like he’s the only closet cornball in Washington: there’s a Supreme Court Justice, for instance, who annually tells his clerks:

Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Roe v. Wade.
Roe v. Wade who?
Roe v. Wade? Who cares? As long as we cross this river somehow!

“Which is, now that I think about it, probably the most cogent defense possible of the logic of the Court’s compromise abortion decision in Reproductive Services v. Casey.”

Senator Noland’s chief of staff, Mardi Ames, defends her boss: “He’s only being singled out because he outreached to the humor-resistant community years before the humorless won recognition as a legally protected minority. If he had hired only humorful people, they’d have just razzed him back instead of brooding upon it for decades.” Ms. Ames asks, “Is it fair to depict a man’s life as if all his jokes were duds?” When asked for an example of the Senator’s wanted humor attempts, she offers, “Well, let’s see . . . oh, yes, there was the one about the three strings who walk into a bar and the first string says . . . Uh, well, maybe not that one . . . Look, can I get back to you on this?”

A sense of betrayal is growing among Noland’s longtime supporters. Pulitzer Prize winning columnist Nina Lindblad laments, “Repeatedly, my friends and I have celebrated some seemingly serious politician, only to be cruelly disillusioned. Are we utter fools? Do we know nothing of human nature? Well, of course not, so it must be society’s fault, or maybe the media’s.”

Humorism activist Bismarck sums up, “We are not against humor. Everybody wants wanted humor, but nobody wants unwanted humor. It’s that simple.”

Just before presstime, Senator Noland issued a statement that he had been diagnosed as a victim of Humor Addiction Malady (HAM), and was checking himself into a clinic in order “To learn if my alleged behavior (which I deny completely but personally apologize for if it offended anyone) stems from my history of childhood sports abuse. After 50 years of repression, I have only now recovered my buried memory of how my father made me play Little League. The experts are finally realizing the terrible toll taken by ‘Right Field Syndrome.’ I hope my accusers can somehow find it in their hearts to forgive my Dad.”
By Steve Sailer
Enter Stage Right, February 1993

Reprinted in National Review, 2/23/98

 
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  1. When are we going to get Congressional hearings on Jeffrey Epstein?

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @JimB
    , @Mr McKenna
    , @David In TN
  2. AndrewR says:

    I’m impressed you’ve managed to hold on to (and find) an unpublished essay for 28 years

    • Agree: Gordo
  3. hirono’s question is sad and to me it seems that there is a style book they are going to play from. Looking at kamala sideways gets you trashed by the left. Politicians have still not learned that the reason trump is POTUS is because people are tired of politicans.

    • Agree: Drew
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Mr. Anon
  4. dearieme says:

    “since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors?”

    Thank God I became a legal adult at 21 n0t 18. (I think so, anyway: I can’t claim to have paid great attention at the time.)

  5. Did Hirono ask this question because she wants to know what it was that ACB did to attract a good man and be desirable enough that said good man would want to continue to produce children with her? Or maybe she thinks that this Hodge Twins skit (2:20-6:00) actually happened.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. J.Ross says:

    No, she’s on to something. ACB has repeatedly had her way with me, using witchcraft. That ought to hypocritically sweeten the pot. No physical evidence, you must take my word for it. Bidding for my testimony starts at one hundred thousand dollars and includes a free catalog of scenarios (for which there is no physical evidence). Almost all requests honored, no scat no flat no cucking, but castration is cool.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • LOL: Sean, Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @Tex
  7. “Sen. Hirono to ACB: Since You Became a Legal Adult, Have You Ever Made Unwanted Requests for Sexual Favors?”

    Question for Sen. Hirono: Since You Became a Legal Adult, Have You Ever Made Wanted Requests for Sexual Favors?

  8. Carol says:

    the dyslexic agnostic who lies awake at night wondering, ‘Is there a God?’”

    Help me

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  9. e.272 says:

    Ms. Barrett, are you telepathic witch?

    Hirono wins the prize for craziest Senator-D.

    I don’t like quoting George F. Will, but he occasionally writes a pithy sentence. Regarding the 2014 CA legislation to require “affirmative consent”:

    This year, for example, we learned that California’s Legislature includes 93 people who seem never to have had sex.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    , @Wilkey
  10. Joshing sucks. It’s what all the white trash do. People with breeding don’t do it. They don’t need to. They have self-respect that doesn’t need shoring up.

    • Replies: @fish
  11. JimB says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    When are we going to get Congressional hearings on Jeffrey Epstein?

    Around the same time we get hearings on RussiaGate and PizzaGate.

  12. Wake up says:

    Senator Hirono represents Hawaii, which is Heaven on Earth. Maybe she should live around some high-crime, unsafe areas instead of being a Limousine Liberal.

  13. Tom F. says:

    That question was asked of Kavanaugh, so this tardy attempt by Hirono to “normalize” inappropriate and humiliating questions is trying to get four-year old curdled milk unspilled. Yeah, yeah, see, all the candidates get disrespected, okay?!?!! That said, some potential answers going forward:

    1) a silent wink
    2) Never. Always wanted.
    3) Define favor.
    4) Are you ‘asking for a friend’?

    Feel free to add your own.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  14. How do you know a sexual request is unwanted unless you make the request?

  15. Presumably it’s some sort of idiotic trap question where Barrett says, “Nope, sorry, never committed sex crimes” and then they trot out some guy from college she flirted with who Just Wasn’t That Into Her, retcon this into Harassment, and then accuse her of Lying To Congress, and therefore Disqualify!

    These people are just so despicable, you can’t even make good jokes about it anymore.

    • Agree: David In TN
  16. @JohnnyWalker123

    Can someone remind me why Bill Clinton isn’t in prison, or at least under indictment?

  17. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Maizie Hirono has been fighting stage 4 kidney cancer since 2017. I detest everything Hirono stands for but I admire her fortitude.

    Pray for the conversion of Maizie Hirono.

    Lord Jesus Christ, most merciful Saviour of the world, we humbly beseech You, by Your most Sacred Heart, that all the sheep who stray out of Your fold may in one days be converted to You, the Shepherd and Bishop of their souls, who lives and reigns with God the Father in the unity of the Holy Spirit, world without end.
    Amen.


    Mazie Keiko Hirono

  18. @Steve Sailer

    Perhaps, or maybe you just consult the Progressive Stack to see who ranks above whom.

  19. @Buffalo Joe

    the reason trump is POTUS is because people are tired of politicans

    Alas, that’s more like the reason people keep oscillating between the Tweedledee and Tweedledum segments of our magnificent “two-party” system.

    Or Kang and Kodos, if you prefer.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  20. I’ve even slept with people who made unwanted sexual requests of me. I guess that means I’ve been raped. One might argue that I should have respected myself more and said no, but it is ludicrous to say that I was a victim of anything other than my own poor decision-making.

    As for ACB, although I do find her incredibly attractive, there would be times when I might not feel like sleeping with her. I imagine her husband is occasionally in the same position, but does so anyway because that’s life.

    I guess that means she should be imprisoned for perjury. Or something like that.

    Also, she’s amazing and I totally love her. Don’t care about her politics.

  21. Anonymous[169] • Disclaimer says:

    Amy Coney Barrett is a stealth liberal. Here are some obvious tells:

    She does the three name thing. Because that’s what liberal women do.

    She’s from the south (New Orleans) but doesn’t speak with a southern accent. This a dead giveaway for status seeking and/or approval seeking from liberals.

    She adopts black children from overseas. Did she get the idea from liberal friends? TV? Hollywood? Angelina Jolie? Madonna?

    RINO establishment (McConnell mafia) and Koch bros money machine both strongly back her. Another dead giveaway.

    She’s supposed to be an arch conservative catholic right? Sure. I knew she would show some skin for her big rose garden acceptance speech and she did. Plunging neckline but with a bow covering deep cleavage area. Hilarious style choice for a very religious very catholic wife and mother.

    Not sure what to make of her young girl voice but it’s not reassuring. Sounds like a high school graduation speech. At least she doesn’t do the valley girl uptalk thing.

    Superlawyer Robert Barnes does his homework and says she will block any anti-trust push against big tech. Thanks Donny! We know you never really wanted anti-trust anyway because it will hurt the stawk market.

    Reading the tea leaves so far I predict Barrett will eventually reveal herself to be about as conservative as Kellyanne Conway.

    THIS WOMAN IS MITT ROMNEY’S DREAM PICK

    (At least Barrett’s incompetent GOP handlers didn’t send her up there today looking like Hannibal Lector in the mask. Maybe someone got fired.)

    • Troll: IHTG
  22. @Steve Sailer

    Extreme narcissism is the malady of the smartest people of the age.

  23. @e.272

    Affirmative consent = narcissistic autism.

  24. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    Weird, I never knew he was part Asian. I had always thought his first wife, Valerie Bertinelli, was a hapa (Filipino?).

  25. “since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors” – How many adult men (gay, straight, or whatever) could honestly answer “no” to that question? I don’t see how it’s possible unless you’re celibate. Or are we supposed to parse out some fine-grained distinction between “wanted the request but didn’t actually want sex” vs “didn’t even want him to request it”? If your wife or girlfriend has *ever* been “too tired” for sex, how could you honestly answer no to that question?

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    , @anon
  26. Kronos says:

    “In late 1992, for example, I predicted Bill Clinton would get into a huge sexual harassment scandal because not even Bill Clinton could have batted a perfect 1.000 in requests for sexual favors. Eventually, that woman turned up in Paula Jones, which set off the Lewinsky scandal.”

    What’s the best biography on Bill Clinton? Any recommendations?

    • Replies: @Darwin's Sh-tlist
  27. @Charles St. Charles

    If the very first thing you do is make a specifically sexual request, chances are good it’s unwanted (although in rare instances, I have seen such a bold gambit succeed — just not by me of course).

    We used to have this thing called “courting”, or at the very least “flirting”, where the mating dance advanced by degrees.

    No chess game ever proceeded like this:

    1. WHITE: Pawn to King 4.

    2. BLACK: Rook leaps through the air over all the ranks and nukes your king!! Checkmate, sucka!!!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  28. @JohnnyWalker123

    Jeffrey Epstein is in the news today (Tuesday). It seems attorneys for the victims tried to get the Southern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s office to prosecute Epstein in 2016. They would not.

    Why? Hillary Clinton was the front-runner for the Democratic nomination and likely winner that fall. A prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein would bring up Bill Clinton’s financial and personal relationship with Epstein.

    The MSM paid little attention to Jeffrey Epstein until 2019. The hook was Alex Acosta, Donald Trump’s Labor Secretary, was U.S. Attorney for South Florida when Epstein was given the “sweetheart deal.” Ever since the MSM has harped on Trump’s friendship with Epstein in the 1990’s and played down Bill Clinton’s using Epstein’s money for the “Clinton Foundation,” along with Clinton’s socializing with Epstein.

    Barry Kirscher, Palm Beach County District Attorney, and a partisan Democrat, refused to indict Epstein for sex with underage high school girls. The evidence was stronger for a state case than for federal. When Kirscher declined, the victims’ attorneys went to the federal authorities.

    The MSM says little or nothing about Kirscher, who in fact went along completely with the “sweetheart deal,” which was made official in state court.

    If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, would Epstein have been arrested in 2019?

    • Replies: @Gordo
  29. Hawaii shouldn’t even be a US state.

    One electoral vote for Larry Ellison, one for Dole Foods, and two for the USN.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  30. @Anonymous

    I agree she’s probably fairly liberal on every issue except abortion. Barbara Lagoa would have been a better pick.

    But people from New Orleans don’t have Southern accents. I live fairly close and you’d never know I was a Southerner.

    • Replies: @black sea
  31. @Space Ghost

    I wonder, just wonder, in what context such questions have been asked before?

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=woody+allen+the+front&docid=608040109580552772&mid=F05BF593CAC211FE3565F05BF593CAC211FE3565&view=detail&FORM=VIREHT

    Are you, or have you been, either you or any of your associates, a member of the Communist Party?

  32. Tlotsi says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Wouldn’t this discriminate against autistics, and wouldn’t this run afoul of the ADA?

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  33. Sean says:

    A further oddity is that no advance no matter how obnoxious is prohibited as long as it ultimately turns out to be wanted.

    You have to play to win, say those selling lottery tickets, but plighting your troth is much less risky than wagering that you will never get a knockback in hundreds of attempts at soliciting casual sex. The evolved “diminishing returns” assessments that in humans confer a basic aversion to risk suggest it is not worth it. However Asher Ginsberg the cultural Zionist famously celebrated the potential advantages of foolhardiness.

    Unlike the throwing of dice, in life decisions are made with incomplete information: under conditions of uncertainty. What one does depends on the type of person one is. You have to be that person with incomplete information and having to decide to know what the right thing to do is. It cannot be ordained from an ivory tower, because there is no right answer.

  34. J.Ross says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The legal system is fake. The true law is don’t embarass your masters.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  35. @Abolish_public_education

    Hey there’s an idea. When the Dems push to make DC a state in a couple of years, the Repubs say sure, as long as we grant Hawaii independence and return it to the native islanders.

  36. Much less a United States senator, Hirono would be barely competent to play an extra on 5-0 — the huge muu-muu-clad lady who tells Chin, “Oh no, I no see nothing” after someone gets machine-gunned and run over right in front of her.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  37. e.272 says:
    @AndrewR

    Now that he’s cold, Eddie’s big hit song was “Jamie’s Crying” which is just a pile of noise and repetitive lyrics. It’s rarely played on oldies radio stations. For the time he played in the spotlight, he was usually un-talented as a quasi-solo act. He could have used his guitar talent under some management, but he wanted to be the star.

    I’m thinking of someone like Carlos Alamar, who was never a star, but whose riffs will be more enduring. Bowie’s interesting song “Golden Years”, for example, still gets played regularly.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  38. @Tom F.

    “Sen. Mazie Hirono asks ACB ‘since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?’”

    I wish Judge Barrett had responded, “Senator, your question was equal parts insane and out of line.”

    Hirono: I am waiting for your answer.

    Barrett: I just answered you.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    , @PiltdownMan
  39. So far ACB has far exceeded my short-term expectations.

    Watching her dissect these overgrown children with the title of, “Senator,” is like watching the Marianas Turkey Shoot….or Godzilla vs. Tokyo.

    Apparently, Notre Dame had a pretty good law school where one actually had to study and absorb their chosen field. Heck, they are still ranked #22 in this day and age.

    That said, long-term ACB will squish on immigration issues.

    I’ve never met anyone with a foreign spouse or adopted foreign children that doesn’t immediately personalize the immigration issue and start shrieking about open borders now and forever.

    • Replies: @GP100
  40. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Mexico

    Barrett was beyond incidental here. It wasn’t even a clever trap or feint for the ensuing question. Howsoever this parliamentary bunkum technique should be labeled (apostrophic interrogation?) it’s not to ply info *or* to impeach credibility, simply to draw attention to the questioner–which the backbench Senator from a quasi-state accomplished, clumsily.

  41. @Steve Sailer

    Until she revokes consent twenty years later.

  42. @Anon

    I detest everything Hirono stands for but I admire her fortitude.

    Nah.

    She’s clearly one of those people who uses her cancer as permission/an excuse to act like a cancer to everyone she interacts with.

  43. Art Deco says:
    @Wake up

    About 60% of the residents on Heaven on Earth live in greater Honolulu, which is an agglomeration of tacky commercial real estate and populated with people living in stupefyingly expensive condominiums. The trade winds are pleasant, to be sure.

  44. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    She does the three name thing.

    You mean like Miriam Rombauer Becker and Clare Boothe Luce?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  45. mousey says:

    They can’t attack her faith or past decisions. So they instead subject her to torture. She can’t leave, ignore or look away. She is unable to make any facial expression. She has to sit there and listen to their idiocy, conspiracy theories and self promotion for hours and days. It’s a Clockwork Orange!

    • Agree: utu
  46. Lace says:
    @Steve Sailer

    You’re supposed to, but can’t nearly always, especially if people have been drinking. I usually have made wanted advances that I was sure of, or it might not have gone anywhere–some people are too shy. A couple of times unwanted, but I still didn’t know it, and when it was made clear, I didn’t try to go any further.

    I’ve had women and men make ‘unwanted advances’ toward me, but I never cared, just told them no or removed their groping hand. Never thought a thing about it again. I even was flattered they were attracted to me, even if I wouldn’t reciprocate it. So they weren’t even necessarily ‘unwanted’ just because I didn’t then want to go ahead with things.

    I wouldn’t even think of approaching with any doubt at this idiotic point, and anyway, sexual drive has gone way down in general–that’s because people are nowadays so much less attractive, and very few are actually sexy…nevermind, I haven’t got time for any lawsuits for such shit. At an art gallery opening exactly a year ago, one of the staff was dressed and dolled-up to kill, and I told her how gorgeous she looked…and caught myself, saying “Oh, I’m sorry, I know you’re not supposed to say things like that anymore”. But she was clearly more into ‘yeah I am hot , you’re right’ mode. But I try to minimize any compliments even by now.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    , @Anon125
  47. @Mike_from_SGV

    ‘Hey there’s an idea. When the Dems push to make DC a state in a couple of years, the Repubs say sure, as long as we grant Hawaii independence and return it to the native islanders.’

    The inhabitants would object. There’s this delusion that native Hawaiians are even among the major ethnic groups in the Islands.

    It fascinated me when I lived there. Hawaii has a distinct culture — but it’s nothing to do with King Kamehameha and all that ‘Aloha’ crap. You might as well eat acorn mush to be authentically Californian.

    • Replies: @anon
  48. @Carol

    I’ve always heard it as, “what do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic? Someone who stays up all night, wondering if there is a Dog.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Glaivester
  49. @Wake up

    … Hawaii, which is Heaven on Earth.

    Try living there for a few years consuming the required macaroni salad, rice and bad teriyaki. Also, your IQ will drop 5 points per month, until you, just like the original Hawaiians, would be unable to conceive of the wheel.

  50. @Mr McKenna

    Same reason as G.W. Bush. He is an ex-president.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  51. @Charles St. Charles

    How do you know a sexual request is unwanted unless you make the request?

    If I told you you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

    • Replies: @Lace
  52. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    I’ve always heard it as, “what do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic? Someone who stays up all night, wondering if there is a Dog.”

    And then there’s the dyslexic boy who cried fowl

  53. @Mr McKenna

    I’ve come to prefer this Simpsons meme (featuring our guy, Mel Gibson)

  54. Kronos says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Bill Clinton still possesses ample support from within the Democratic Party and the financial sector. If he goes down then the “Coalition of the Fringes” will experience a grand mal seizure and experience a civil war. (When neoliberal white Democrats are buying guns like crazy it’s not out of fear of Republicans.) The 1990s Democratic Party Boomer consensus is the only thing keeping it together.

  55. Dr. X says:

    The Jesus golfing joke is actually kinda funny.

    Every time they would read John 12:14 in church — “Jesus found an ass and sat on it” I used to whisper to my kid “Jesus must’ve lost his ass!!!” and she couldn’t stop laughing for the rest of the service…

  56. D2929 says:

    Why do so many Hawaiians sound like slow adults?

  57. Lace says:

    Just occurs to me, is it a formal thing to do, this ‘unwanted request’? I don’t see how it can be done. What do you imply? “You must change your mind about not wanting to have sex with me, please. At once”.

    Since it is impossible to know for sure it’s ‘unwanted’ (unless just keeping on coaxing and pushing it), it would seem to need to be a physical movement, at least. I guess she could have asked “Have you ever grabbed a man in an unbecoming overly personal way?”

    How do you know whether any kind of request is unwanted until you ask it? short of “Would you like to go down on me?” and anybody would perjur themselves on that.

    Asking a woman this stupid question is especially amusing, since it probably would be ‘unwanted’ only if it was “I’ve got an extra ticket to the opera. Would you like to go?” If at a party, that would seem to be a date, at least afterward.

  58. Corn says:

    Barrett should have told Hirono yes just to screw with her.

  59. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Ideally it will be some Garth Algar looking dude with a more pitifully unbelievable story than Blasey-Ford’s…

  60. If acted upon universally in the manner of Kant’s categorical imperative, Senator Mazie Hirono’s definition of sexual harassment –“since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors?” — would lead to the eventual extinction of the human race

    Kant himself never ventured more than 60 miles from Königsberg, today’s Kaliningrad and famous for its bridge puzzle, which Euler had solved (or permanently unsolved, to be precise) the year before Kant was born.

    According to the Wallaces/Wallechinskys, he died a virgin. Harassment wasn’t in his playbook.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Almost Missouri
  61. theMann says:

    “since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?”

    A question only a pathetic Beta loser, cuck, or epicine whatever X-gen’er could even pose.

    Everybody knows that a real man just takes any woman he wants, does whatever he wants, has her lick him clean afterwards, and then walks off laughing.

    Bill Clinton personally taught me the truth of that.

  62. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Hawaii has a distinct culture — but it’s nothing to do with King Kamehameha and all that ‘Aloha’ crap

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  63. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Gary in Gramercy

    I think the point was that the guy is question said “God” instead of “dog,” thereby nullifying the joke.

    • Replies: @Carol
  64. theMann says:
    @Just another serf

    For decades Pearl was the Navy’s number one suicide spot, although I believe it was eventually overtaken by Diego Garcia.

    The fact is that Hawaii has all the amenities of any other third world shithole, but very expensive, and there is nothing to do. Le Cafard rules there.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Gordo
  65. @Kronos

    I honestly don’t know if there is one, but Clinton may end up without a good, even-handed biography, at least for a while. The Boomers and Gen-X, who would have the most interest in writing one, probably don’t have the necessary historical distance to pull it off, and likely never will. It takes effort for me to remember how just how much of an enormously polarizing figure he was. He never won a popular vote majority, and ended up being the straw that broke the camel’s back for Southern white conservatives, who had been voting for Congressional Democrats since the Civil War. Also, he was a godsend to the the nascent right-wing media echo chamber. Had GHW Bush beaten him in 1992, it’s possible that Rush Limbaugh’s career would have been a lot more marginal.

    Millennials and, God help us, Zoomers, at least the kinds who will get major book deals, will be too besotted with woke ideology to write anything worth remembering. The 1994 crime bill and welfare reform will be the sum total of his legacy as far as they’re concerned.

    Kind of like with Truman, Clinton may be one where the dust has to settle for a several decades.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  66. Alfa158 says:
    @Just another serf

    Years ago I went to a Hawaiian fast food restaurant near where I worked and ordered one of their lunch specials to go. I was handed a plastic grocery bag with about 5 pounds of what you described. Had lunch for three days on that. And what’s with the bread made with sugar? No wonder Izzy hit 700
    pounds before the end.

  67. Alden says:

    She’s a pretty woman. She’s been fending off lechers since she was a teen. “ I’m married” doesn’t work, just encourages the lechers.

  68. Dr. Doom says:

    Senator Hirono is a good example of why women shouldn’t have positions of power.

    Between her, Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris, you have a good argument to end womens’ suffrage.

    This Supreme Court should be abolished.

    It “redefined” marriage. It legalized infanticide. It makes a mockery of the law as written.

    9 little tyrants whose opinions matter little in the real world.

    If only we all just ignored them and abolished all the lawyers.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  69. He don’t get no respect.

  70. Jack D says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Hirono says that she asks this question of every nominee that comes before her. Presumably it is more applicable to men than to women but she asks everyone.

  71. anon[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @Space Ghost

    “since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors”

    I dunno. People ask for sexual favors? I don’t remember ever asking for sexual favors. Coffee? Or “Let’s have a drink”. I can’t think of anything less likely to end in sex than actually asking for sexual favors. Unless you are Harvey Weinstein, in which case you can just straight up ask for a blowjob and probably get a yes.

    Of course this much more literal than I suppose the question intended. But really, shouldn’t Mazie Hirono explain exactly what the hell she means?

    And as unlikely as it is for a man to literally ask for sexual favors, women can often find non verbal cues more than sufficient to elicit a male response. So this line of probing seems unfair to men.

    Is inviting someone to coffee a sexual advance? Anyone insisting so has a dirty mind. Which invites interrogation.

    But, of course, everyone knows how these things work or don’t work and most people seem to be able to live with it.

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @Wilkey
  72. Jack D says:

    Steve’s 1992 piece was indeed prophetic but what is really amazing is how little the dialog has advanced in almost 30 years. Steve even then understood the conundrum – OTOH only UNWANTED propositions are prohibited. In our non-judgmental times, we don’t look at any other elements of the proposition – is one or the other party married (to someone else), are the parties of the same or different sexes, or species, etc. If both parties agree, then it’s all good.

    The only question is WAS THE PROPOSITION UNWANTED? But this question is impossible to answer in advance. You have to make the advance to find out. If it turns out to be wanted, then you are home free – not only are you in for an evening of pleasure, but no career ending consequences will follow. But if not, then uh-oh. As Steve alludes to, the very purpose of such a standard may be to raise the price of making any proposition so high that most people won’t even try.

    Which brings us to the next question – DO YOU FEEL LUCKY?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Sean
  73. ACB asks same question back to Hirono…. Do you?

    Or… Look at me….Seriously….do you really think I need to ask?

  74. fish says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The FBI files he and his “wife” filched!

  75. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Add to the list:
    She apologized profusely when Corey Booker accused her making a homophobic comment (she said “sexual preference”, instead of “sexual orientation”).
    She goes on:

    Barrett: Senator, I’m saying I was not trying to make any comment on it. I fully respect all the rights of the LGBT community. Obergefell is an important precedent of the court. I reject any kind of discrimination on any sort of basis.

    What more do we need to hear? She’s just another Bush.

  76. fish says:
    @obwandiyag

    OBIWAN…….ANGRY……ANGRY……ANGRY!! OBIWAN SMASH!!

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  77. Be fair, Maizie’s probably been turned down a few times.

  78. @Art Deco

    Well, Mrs. Rombauer (Mrs. Becker’s mom) notoriously made The Joy of Cooking thick enough to hide a small caliber pistol inside, when given to prisoners as a gift.

  79. Kronos says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    She should’ve pulled a “Basic Instinct” move and just turn the tables on the senators.

    • LOL: Wilkey
  80. @Steve Sailer

    You are supposed to be able to tell.

    Ah! I’ve been happily married to a kind and reasonable woman for so long that I totally forgot about crazy chicks’ “reading their minds” requirement.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Truth
  81. GP100 says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    How about Donald Trump? He has had two!

  82. So Steve:

    Here’s something I wrote 27 years ago in the wake of the Anita Hill brouhaha:

    How did you write this in 1993?

    Washington has been rocked by accusations by two dozen former employees and acquaintances that Senator Edmund Noland, (D-Alaska), who was reelected in 1998 under the slogan “Serious Times Require a Serious Senator,” made unwanted humor attempts. Although Congress exempted itself from the Humor Harassment Act of 1997

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Reg Cæsar
  83. @Mike_from_SGV

    It’s preposterous that DC (the Government) has electoral votes. It cancels out SD almost every time.

    Statehood would be totally insane.

    • Replies: @Anonyone
    , @Reg Cæsar
  84. Art Deco says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    With what do you propose to charge George W Bush?

    • Replies: @WJ
  85. black sea says:
    @S. Anonyia

    But people from New Orleans don’t have Southern accents.

    The New Orleans accent is said by some to resemble a Brooklyn accent. Michael Lewis, the writer of Liar’s Poker, etc. is from a prominent New Orleans family. He doesn’t sound particularly Southern, though he doesn’t sound particularly Brooklyn, either.

    • Replies: @Lace
  86. @Wake up

    Hawaii, which is Heaven on Earth.

    Bali is far cheaper and the people there are much friendlier to haoles.

    • Agree: Charles St. Charles
  87. @Anon

    Can we include prayers to Jesus for Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Gerald Nadler and Adam Schiff, also?

  88. Is there really any better name for a skirt-chasing Senator than “Packwood”?

    • LOL: Sam Malone
  89. black sea says:
    @anon

    People ask for sexual favors? I don’t remember ever asking for sexual favors.

    “Excuse me, but could you do me a small favor?”

    Interesting approach, particularly since even casual acquaintances will sometimes reply “Sure, anything.” Why did this never occur to me when I was younger?

  90. Sean says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sexual harassment was probably the grounds for Kant dismissing his Prussian army veteran servant Lampe. The way Lampe behaved towards him was something that Kant said he was ashamed to admit.

    If acted upon universally in the manner of Kant’s categorical imperative, Senator Mazie Hirono’s definition of sexual harassment –“since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors?” — would lead to the eventual extinction of the human race

    The strange thing about Kant’s morality–and something he skates around–is it entailed doing good irrespective of the personal consequences. Conversely, someone who did the right thing because of personal inclination or calculation that it was to their personal advantage (avoiding punishment for example) was defective in the system of Kant. I suppose Hiro’s question was Kantian inasmuch it’s alluding to ABC being a woman is implicit in her communicating of attraction, and is hardy going to to need to be making sexual advances of the type that could be unwanted, the type a man might have made. So while she can hardly be applauded for not having such scandals, she is colluding with those creepy conservative men who want their secretaries to be forced to bear their child.

  91. @restless94110

    It’s a slightly sci-fi setting in the near future. Plus, this is perhaps the text of the 2nd version that ran in National Review in 1998.

    • LOL: restless94110
  92. BenKenobi says:
    @fish

    Hey, don’t lump me in with that f*ckin’ Martian.

  93. Sean says:
    @Jack D

    The only question is WAS THE PROPOSITION UNWANTED?

    Ultimately unwanted. In Mansfield Park Henry Crawford will not take Fanny Price’s definite no for an answer (to his proposal of marriage). He thinks women always say no a few times, then yes. Everyone thinks Fanny is an idiot. Philosophers like Alasdair MacIntyre (especially) Gilbert Ryle, and Lionel Trilling have been big fans of Fanny Price, but she ends up marrying her true love Edmund, who happens to be her cousin!

    • Replies: @Anon
  94. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    I’ve been happily married to a kind and reasonable woman

    Word of advice buddy – don’t let your wife read that comment. No woman wants to be described by her lover/husband as “kind and reasonable”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  95. @Reg Cæsar

    If acted upon universally in the manner of Kant’s categorical imperative, Senator Mazie Hirono’s definition of sexual harassment –“since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors?” — would lead to the eventual extinction of the human race

    Further evidence that the Categorical Imperative and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Hirono’s question is sad and to me it seems that there is a style book they are going to play from.

    I figured that she (or rather or staffers) had prepared a set of questions assuming the candidate was a man, and that she just ran with it anyway.

    Hirono’s question was a new low-point for Democratic Party politicians. But then, I haven’t seen what they’ll say tomorrow.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  97. @e.272

    It gets played on classic rock stations a lot, though.

  98. @Anon

    Sir, I pray for Trump. Period!

  99. Art Deco says:
    @theMann

    The fact is that Hawaii has all the amenities of any other third world shithole, but very expensive, and there is nothing to do. Le Cafard rules there.

    In Honolulu, there’s as much to do as there is in any 2d tier city and it’s as affluent as the average city in the US. There isn’t much violent crime and the night air can be exquisite. The trouble is that the built environment is unappealing. For all that it’s got great weather, it’s not a particularly walkable city, either.

  100. Gordo says:
    @David In TN

    If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, would Epstein have been arrested in 2019?

    No-one would have heard of Epstein and the cameras would still be rolling.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    , @RAZ
  101. Gordo says:
    @theMann

    BIOT is a beautiful place, but being posted there for a whole year, yes I can see that the less imaginative would despair.

  102. Well, the Senator is the poster-child for Asexual Reproduction, so I kind of get the question.

  103. @Thoughts

    Crazy Mazie is clearly a one trick pony. Or something… Just jealous because Judge Barrett is clearly smarter than her, prettier than her, more accomplished than her, and a better mother.

  104. Dissident says:

    This is just surreal to me. To ask such questions as a matter of routine? To a woman, married, with children?

    But as the late Bob Grant would say, “I cannot believe it, but I do believe it.”
    Also, and perhaps even more, applicable: “When I say it’s over, I mean it’s over.”

  105. WJ says:
    @AndrewR

    The amount of late boomer sadness over his death was nauseating.

  106. WJ says:
    @Art Deco

    I would say getting 5000 Americans killed for no reason and spending 2 trillion of my tax dollars for no reason would be a good start. And then you have all of the unfortunate Iraqis slaughtered. “But Saddam tried to kill muh daddy and he is mean to Isrul”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  107. slumber_j says:
    @Lace

    Never thought a thing about it again. I even was flattered they were attracted to me, even if I wouldn’t reciprocate it.

    That’s all well and good for you, but since when is mental health good for the cause?

    Anyway: yeah, exactly. And can there really be people who don’t feel that way? Even if it’s someone who’s attention you really, really didn’t want, barring coercion etc. isn’t the actual upshot usually mutual embarrassment?

    • Thanks: Lace
    • Replies: @Lace
    , @slumber_j
  108. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You can sleep on the floor or you can sleep with me” – what’s a chap meant to reply to that, after a pleasant, friendly evening but with zero physical contact?

    No thanks, I prefer the floor“? I suppose if you never wanted to speak to them again.

  109. @Mr. Anon

    “Hirono’s question was a new low-point for Democratic Party politicians. But then, I haven’t seen what they’ll say tomorrow.”

    There is no bottom for these people.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  110. @Gordo

    Exactly. Epstein would never have been arrested with Hillary Clinton in charge of the Justice Department.

    I don’t think the Harvey Weinstein imbroglio would have occurred either had Hillary won in 2016.

  111. @Nicholas Stix

    A lady like Amy Coney Barret would never say it but surely she was tempted to say

    “Unwanted, Senator? Never.”

    • LOL: Hibernian, Wilkey
  112. @Nicholas Stix

    A lady like Amy Coney Barrett would never say it but surely she was tempted to say

    “Unwanted, Senator? Never.”

  113. Antiwar7 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    One could ask: “How would you respond if I were to ask you out on a date?”

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  114. Typical predictable female solipsism.

    Mazie, you wouldn’t exist if not for unwanted requests for sex. Epistemology wins every time, by definition.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  115. @Steve Sailer

    If you’re Ted Kennedy, they let you do it. You can do anything . . .

    • Replies: @black sea
  116. Lace says:
    @slumber_j

    I don’t know what you’re talking about ‘since when is mental health good for the cause’. Mental health is good for everything. WHAT cause?

    Not mutual embarassment. When I’ve been rejected from a slight sexual advance, or vice-versa, I’ve never been embarassed. In the first case, I’ve just felt deprived, in the second place–that’s just fucking LIFE, if they’re embarassed at being rejected, that’s just too bad. It’s never not happened to anyone, including the very best-looking.

  117. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Hrmph. I would love it if my husband so spoke. And I would very much object if he in any way needed to inject into a conversation that I’m attractive, or how attractive. Specially to internet strangers, for heavens sake.

    Trumps harping on Melania’s evident beauty, for example, does a disservice to her and is cringeworthy.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  118. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Fanny Price grows on you. The first time I read Mansfield Park I found her boring though ultimately liked she came through her trials happy. She’s certainly not the most magnetic Austen heroine. However, I re-read ten years later and gained a healthy appreciation for her underdog strength. Fanny Price has instinctive virtue, it seems, more than virtue through compliance with reigning social norms. And she did not virtue-signal, which is a respite from modern novels and Netflix content.

    Edmund and Fanny are difficult to appreciate in our times: they gained happiness through moderation, instead of success through extraordinary talent or charism.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  119. Lace says:
    @black sea

    People from New Orleans by and large definitely have Southern accents. Where the hell does this idea come from? People like Michael Lewis that are cosmopolitan and international naturally change their accents. Charlie Rose still had a lot of Southern in his accent, and I have some too, after 50 years in NYC. I’ve spent plenty of time in New Orleans, and I never heard anything but Southern accents.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @FPD72
    , @Truth
  120. Hibernian says:

    Now Ben Sasse is repeatedly slandering the Houston Astros despite multiple warnings, from Cornyn, Cruz, and Graham, to cool it.

  121. Lace says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    No, I’d just respond with anything but ‘thank you’ and keep going, unless you were a turn-on and didn’t seem psychotic. I told a girl in LA in 2007, after she saw that her desire to get me to come to some religious New Age cultish thing instead of going to UCLA to a performance “you’re so beautiful!” which thrilled her, but it was as I was leaving her, so I guess couldn’t be mistaken for anything psychically determined to be ‘unwanted’. She was also very nice, despite not being too bright if she was in one of the thousands of New Age cults in L.A., and all the Scientology headquarters on H’wood Blvd. In fact, I thought she might be a Scientologist, but they’re usually drabber and often half-hobo.

  122. Escher says:

    Maybe Trump just wants Barrett and Kavanaugh to get together.
    None of the other justices look like they would solicit favors from her.

  123. Muggles says:
    @Anonymous

    I hate to say it again here, but the perfect is the enemy of the good.

    Or good enough.

    You see the shit ACB had to put up with from the Dem morons on the Sen. Judiciary Committee.

    You can just imagine this: how does she compare to the hypothetical nominee that Biden/Harris would put up?

    As a longtime libertarian, I wish the world were a better place. But I don’t lose much sleep over it.

    I have done my small part to make it better, but we are not gods. Fortunately.

  124. Wilkey says:

    Today (and always) a large part of our politics is driven by people who want to be spared the indignities of normal, everyday life.

    People who don’t want to work. People who want a college degree but don’t want to study to actually earn it. People who want to attend a fancy college but want the taxpayer to pay off their student loans. Women who don’t want to be hit on by men they aren’t attracted to. Blacks who see racism everytime some white person is less than over-the-top polite to them.

    It’s definitely better than when it was men who owned large fields of cotton, but didn’t want to have to harvest it themselves. But it’s still annoying.

    Then and now, these people shouldn’t even be allowed to vote.

  125. Wilkey says:
    @anon

    I don’t remember ever asking for sexual favors. Coffee? Or “Let’s have a drink”. I can’t think of anything less likely to end in sex than actually asking for sexual favors.

    Great line. Though obviously you don’t hang out in the right parts of town – or live in Nevada.

    What’s interesting is the bifurcated way the Left treats sex. They spent ~40 years telling us that sex was all but inconsequential – just a recreational sport, having nothing to do with procreation or long-term commitment between two people. It was part of their politics and part of most of the movies and TV shows Hollywood put out (so to speak).

    Now it’s either a recreational sport with no consequences, or emotionally traumatic if a man so much as touches a woman’s breasts or derrierre, even inadvertently. Or it’s both. Who the hell knows?

    But what else is funny is Hirono’s obsession with ‘unwanted requests’ for sexual favors. Is that supposed to refer to literal requests for sex (who does that?) or does it also refer to simple requests for a date?

    Today all we hear about almost nonstop are complaints about “sexual harassment” and “sexual assault.” But the most common complaint by far that I heard from girls when I was in school wasn’t about either. It was that no one ever asked them out. Granted, that was all before social media and the concept of “sex buddies” came along for people who wanted the thrill of sex but not the commitment of a relationship.

    But people in general, and young people especially, haven’t learned the art of dating (which if I were about 30 years older I would refer to as “courtship”). Guys don’t know how to ask a girl on a date, or know what to do when they go on one. Mix that in with all the lessons from television and movies, and the notion of fuck buddies, and I can totally believe that sexual assaults are up, even as rates of people actually having sex are down. But it’s all mostly because men don’t know how the hell to start a relationship, or what the hell should be expected once they’re in one. This is all further complicated by the lack of shared rules and expectations in our society.

    Needless to say, if the Left actually wanted to solve the problem, rather than use it to cause contention and divide people, they would probably focus more on how to start and develop healthy relationships and spend less time talking about #MeToo. The government spends a whole lot of time and energy: 1) teaching all men that they are sexist pigs; and 2) showing them how to put a condom on a banana. All the focus is on the mechanics of sex, or the evils of men, and none of it on healthy relationships. But that might lead to more women (white women, in particular) forming healthy relationships and marrying and having children and voting Republican and not blaming men for everything wrong with their lives. God forbid that should ever happen.

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    , @Anonymous
  126. @Wilkey

    “literal requests for sex (who does that?)”

    I had a work colleague around 1997 who late in the evening would cold approach the drunkest single woman in the pub and straight up ask her for oral sex outside in the car park. He used to get lucky maybe one time in three or four (and occasionally got his face slapped).

    I don’t know about the US, but work drinking culture has changed a lot in the UK over the last 30 years, certainly in IT. Some people in the late 80s would be drunk on the premises on Friday afternoon. In 2014 I went out for “a lunchtime drink” with new colleagues and realised I was the only one of about 15 people holding a pint.

  127. Wilkey says:
    @e.272

    I don’t like quoting George F. Will, but he occasionally writes a pithy sentence.

    George Will is extremely gifted in the art of rhetoric. Pick up one of his collections of columns, preferably from sometime in the 90s. I’ve read all of them up through about 2004, and they’re a solid lesson in how to write well.

    It’s his reasoning that suffers. I can tell you precisely when he lost me as a fan. It was a column in support of the 2006 immigration amnesty/open borders bill. He argued that there was no way we could ever deport 12 million illegals because ‘it would require 200,000 buses carrying 60 people each, stretching from San Diego to Juneau.’

    I wanted to ask him if we could use each bus more than once – say like once a week, so we would only need 4,000 buses; or if we could deport them via the US passenger airline service, which handles over 700 million passengers a year; or if the government could buy 100 airplanes, and deport 10,000 people a day; or if maybe ICE could just borrow cargo planes from the US Air Force, and we wouldn’t need any new planes or pilots at all.

    His logic has only gotten worse ever since – or perhaps his bank account has gotten a lot bigger.

  128. slumber_j says:
    @slumber_j

    Sorry, that first question was meant ironically.

    • Thanks: Lace
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  129. Anonyone says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    It’s preposterous that DC (the Government) has electoral votes. It cancels out SD almost every time.

    Top 1,000 reasons for D.C. not to be made a state:

    Reasons 1-1000: Because it’s a fucking city.

    Sorry in advance for the geography lesson here, but the smallest state in the union, Rhode Island, is over 18 times larger than D.C. It was one of the original 13 colonies. The smallest state to be admitted since ratification was Vermont (141 times larger than D.C.) in 1791. The smallest states to be admitted in the last 200 years are West Virginia (356 times larger) and Hawaii (161 times larger). Those two states were both special cases. West Virginia was formed from rebellious parts of Virginia during the Civil War, and Hawaii could only be as large as the islands it sits on. Apart from those the smallest state admitted in the last 200 years is Arkansas – 782 times larger than the District of Columbia.

    Yes, there are two states, Vermont and Wyoming, with populations smaller than D.C. Over the long haul, though, the likely outcome is that both states will end up with larger populations. They simply have more room to grow. And there are 19 cities and 93 counties with populations larger than D.C. Should every one of those be made a state?

    And say what you want about those electoral votes but: 1) they give D.C. residents some say in their government; 2) those votes have never once made a difference in the outcome of a presidential election; and 3) best of all, the amendment that gave them the votes now presents another constitutional barrier to making the District into a state.

    There is an established precedent regarding what to do with land that is no longer part of the federal capital: return it to the state from whence it came. If the leftist voters in Maryland (61% for Clinton in 2016) don’t want the leftist voters in D.C. (93% for Clinton) to be part of their state then that’s something for the Democrats to take up amongst themselves.

  130. Tex says:
    @J.Ross

    She turned me into a newt!

  131. @Just another serf

    just like the original Hawaiians, would be unable to conceive of the wheel.

    About 10 years ago the Badwhites were visiting Kona and some random tourist showed us some “ancient Hawaiian art” which consisted of stick figures carved into the lava. I asked him approximately when these stick figures were carved and he answered the middle of the 17th century. I replied “so when Vermeer was at his peak”.

  132. Hibernian says:
    @Lace

    I’ve been there, and also there was a girl from N.O. with a German surname one letter different from some of my cousins’ at (now defunct) Ft Benjamin Harrison in Indianapolis when I was there in 1990. They have one, but it is surprisingly mild for being so far south. Also accents, especially in cities, aren’t entirely regional. They depend to a certain degree on ethnic heritage, neighborhood, and possibly socioeconomic status for some people. After leaving the South (she went to undergraduate school in Memphis) ACB spent extensive time time in South Bend (90 miles east of Chicago) and D. C.

  133. @restless94110

    “Serious Times Require a Serious Senator”

    From our dear departed fellow commenter, Baloo:

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  134. @Abolish_public_education

    It’s preposterous that DC (the Government) has electoral votes. It cancels out SD almost every time.

    Our family stopped at the capitol in Pierre last week. The kids and I went in while Mom went for coffee downtown. Or “downtown”.

    She says South Dakota’s is the deadest capital city she’s ever been in.

    I say feature, not bug!

  135. @Antiwar7

    HR people are pretty dumb, but even they aren’t dumb enough to fall for that one.

  136. Art Deco says:
    @WJ

    The problem in your assessment is as follows:

    1. It wasn’t for no reason

    2. It wasn’t for no reason

    3. Coalition troops withdrew at the end of 2011, bar a modest residue. From the beginning of 2003 to the end of 2011 there were 115,000 civilian deaths in Iraq attributable to political violence. About 11% were attributable to coalition forces, about 2% to Iraqi state forces, and about 87% to the country’s ample population of brigands.

    4. Ordinarily, we don’t put politicians on trial for disputed policy, or regard waging war with the approval of Congress as a crime.

    5. What’s your pleasure, Uday or Qusay?

  137. Lace says:
    @slumber_j

    Thanks. Sorry, I usually catch such things, but you were a little subtle for me just there.

  138. RAZ says:
    @Gordo

    And Harvey Weinstein would be having dinner at the White House.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  139. @anon

    That’d be about right.

    Aloha.

  140. @Steve Sailer

    I’m disappointed that no one has brought up the classic Saturday Night Live sketch in the episode hosted by Tom Brady in 2005 which explains how to avoid a sexual harassment claim in the workplace:

    1) Be handsome
    2) Be attractive
    3) Don’t be unattractive

  141. @Reg Cæsar

    Weird… I hit ‘LOL’ and then ‘Thanks’ (to indicate that this was worthy of 2 of the daily kudos budget), but ‘Thanks’ over-wrote ‘LOL’.

    Anyhow… LOL and Thanks.

    That gag is going to be used whenever the opportunity arises – starting today.

    I have abundant daily use for such a pithy apophthegm, since I live in a State (Victoria) that is subject to one of the most draconian lockdowns on the planet. The lockdown was caused entirely by a massive policy fuckup – equal in ineptitude, if not scale, to Il Douche‘s “Aged-Care Tötungszentren” policy.

    We in Victoria also turned aged-care homes into Vernichtunslageren as the policy response for the ‘first wave’ scaremongering, but the second wave was entirely caused by fuckups in the administration of hotel quarantine.

    The median age of Australian COVID19 deaths-with is 86, and the majority were residents of aged care facilities. But the second-round casedemic – which is what caused Prison Camp Victoria – stemmed from incompetent administration of hotel quarantine.

    The inquiry into the hotel quarantine fuckup has already caused the resignation of the Health Minister and the chief of staff of the Premier (who was constantly braying that “he bears final responsibility”…) – it remains to be seen if he faces similar consequences (best guess: Nope.).

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    , @Reg Cæsar
  142. black sea says:
    @Alec Leamas Remote

    For those old enough to remember William Kennedy Smith:

    Q: What’s William Kennedy Smith’s idea of foreplay?
    A: “Hi, I’m William Kennedy Smith.”

  143. Anon125 says:
    @Lace

    sexual drive has gone way down in general–that’s because people are nowadays so much less attractive, and very few are actually sexy

    Yeah, get that sex drive thing checked out. Maybe some viagra or testosterone, or boost your testosterone naturally by lifting weights.

    I’m happily married (no really, I am – happily), but young women today seem way more beautiful than they were when I started college 25 years ago. True that there are more obese women, and way more tattoos than back in the 90s, but the women (and men) who do take care of themselves take better care of themselves than ever before. The growing gap between rich and poor is matched by the growing gap between pretty and not.

    Versus 25 years ago, today there is a lot more accurate data on healthy versus unhealthy foods (more protein, fruits and vegetables, but fewer carbs); better access to gyms, home fitness equipment, and public trails; better acne medication; and far better fitting clothes compared to the frumpy crap people wore in the 80s and 90s. And two words: yoga pants.

    And I think the phenomenon is actually more obvious in young men than in young women. Thanks to the effects of weightlifting on muscle hypertrophy in men, you can literally tell that a lot more men are spending time in the gym. There weren’t nearly so many muscleheads walking around in 1995.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Lace
  144. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    “Guys don’t know how to ask a girl on a date, or know what to do when they go on one.”
    This strikes me as true, both via personal experience and some thinking. And also as extremely important. And the scope of the problem seems to have been growing for perhaps half a century or more.
    No doubt there are many guys (statistics!) who did not face this problem, and others who faced it but through some combination of luck and skill and character found a way through it, but who is thinking deeply about how to solve the problem for society as a whole? My take is that unless that problem is solved, we are all screwed (in a bad way). It is not simply leftist ideologues who have utterly failed here, but almost everyone. “[F]orming healthy relationships and marrying and having children” is not behavior that comes naturally. It must be somehow learned, and it must be somehow learned from someone striving to teach it. But almost everyone who might plausibly have a responsibility to teach it has abdicated that duty, and this includes most parents, including ostensibly “conservative” parents.

  145. @RAZ

    If Hillary had won, Harvey Weinstein wouldn’t just be having dinner at the White House, he’d be in the Lincoln Bedroom pressuring some starlet for sex.

  146. KenH says:

    Like ACB is supposed to say “Well, I do get horny at times and sometimes demand sexual favors from some of the men I regularly come in contact with but that’s about all and the men never complain.”

  147. @Kratoklastes

    Of course, since hydroxychloroquine + zinc is the cure, none of that needed to happen and there needn’t have been any quarantine.

    What is going on with Australian leadership? They all seem to be totalitarian SJWs lately.

  148. FPD72 says:
    @Lace

    On the other hand, I spent a lot of time in New Orleans on business during the 1994-2006 period and I heard a lot of what sounded to me as Brooklyn accents, which I found puzzling to say the least.

  149. Truth says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    Ah! I’ve been happily married

    Let me guess; either your wife is Asian, or you ain’t white.

  150. Truth says:
    @Lace

    New Orleans has more similarity to Brooklyn then to say Tennessee.

    Lafayette and the Bayou is much different

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  151. Carol says:
    @Glaivester

    Yes I got the double-dim mansplain treatment.

  152. @FPD72

    John Kennedy Toole covers this accent issue in his great comic novel “A Confederacy of Dunces”. He quotes a specialist who says that New Orleans is a port city more than it is a Southern city, and that accent-wise thus it has more in common with Brooklyn, Newark, or Providence than it does with say Mississippi. Large ports (and in NO’s case, international ports) have a different culture than inland. It’s as true of Marseilles as it is of San Francisco — or at least that used to be true, before immigration and the Internet effectively turned ALL of California into a port.

  153. @Anon125

    ” young women today seem way more beautiful than they were when I started college 25 years ago”

    I think it’s more likely that when you’re surrounded by youthful beauty (i.e. in high school or college – peak beauty age is probably late teens) you take it more for granted, even with the extra testosterone load. Not so when you’re 45 or 50, because you’re not surrounded by it.

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  154. @Anon

    Fanny Price grows on you.

    So does Benedict Arnold, when compared to modern politicians.

  155. @Kratoklastes

    Thanks for the “thanks”. You say you’re Antipodean, and that will help me distinguish you from Kronos. Sorry, but I always get these similar names confused for some time. E.g., Andrew and AndrewR. Kylie and Kyle. Several Daves and a Dad or two. Nobody else uses a ligature, so I’m safe.

  156. Lace says:
    @Anon125

    I personally have almost nothing but sex drive, much more than my years would suggest. I do use testosterone, though, and think all men would have better quality of life, especially sex life, if they did. Viagra, I recently discovered, is good even if you don’t really ‘need’ it. It doesn’t make you feel as you did when 34 or so, it makes you feel more like fucking 16! Just taking half the usually suggested dose gives an amazing effect. Just tried it this summer when someone who did need it to counteract other drugs he was taking started talking about it, so I decided to get some too. I imagine a lot of men have discovered that Viagra is fabulous used recreationally, as it were. It’s the difference between ‘hard’ and ‘stone’.

    But it’s well-known that sex drive has gone down in the U.S., as technology became all-consuming with the phones, etc. But I know I am not correct–about the good looks, at least–there are hundreds of beautiful young women I see on the streets all the time–and glamorous. And the boys and young men now take working out and getting into really sharp shape much more seriously and for granted than ever before. Even so, it’s probably a matter of taste or the demeanour of many of then that makes them seem less sexy to me than previously.

    I don’t see it in the clothes though. At least the everyday ones. Still too many sports clothes on the young men too often and too much silly hair–simple short hair is better. Better summer shorts (because of fabric quality) except the too-long ones that go below the knees and aren’t really shorts–I would never wear those. I think an inch or two above the knees looks much better, but not shorter. Men used to wear shorts that were way too short, you see fewer cut-offs unhemmed than before. Too many ‘very skinny jeans’ too–worst in suits that are way too tight and you see the celebs wearing these on the awards shows, if they even bother to wear a suit; as far as that goes, all the ‘red carpet’ fashions have gotten so contrived that I usually never see a single elegant one. Girls’ dresses are often pretty sensational though nowadays–but I probably don’t usually notice them except on the obviously gorgeous ones, of which there are quite a lot in NYC.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  157. @FPD72

    I heard a lot of what sounded to me as Brooklyn accents,

    There is a subset of New Orleaners (New Orleanians?) called “Yats” because they’ll say thing likes “where yat”. I’m not sure why some become Yats, others talk without much of a regional accent, others have a southern accent.

  158. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Unwanted requests made by Mazie’s mon, no doubt.

  159. c matt says:

    Honestly, as good as ACB looks at her age, I can’t imagine any advance she might have made would be unwanted.

  160. Lace says:
    @Truth

    Thanks for putting that excerpt from The Louisiana Story there. Love that movie and have it on an old vhs.

    But don’t agree. Listened to all your clips, and the Brooklyn accent was mentioned (as have some other commenters mentioned), but Brooklyn accents are something I’m extremely familiar with, and I still didn’t hear that. Didn’t think these examples sounded much like Dolly Parton and other Nashville types, whose status didn’t need ‘upping’, because that was as much a part of their appeal as Mae West’s Brooklynese was of hers.

    Some of the upper class talk even has touches of real Southern in it, as those two businessmen, sounds a little like Senator Hollings used to talk–very proper High Southern.

    But people in urban centers everywhere, since there’s such a big variety of socio-economic classes, always move toward what one of the vids called ‘standard middle-class English’. There was some of that here, and there was none of the ‘hick Southern talk’, which you here in rural places in Alabama, Mississippi, and all the Deep South states I’ve been in–and these vary too. Very ‘country’ accents in Tennessee are not exactly like those in Alabama and Georgia or North Florida (which is very country.)

    I can’t as easily pick out a Queens or Bronx accent and be sure, but Brooklyn accents are very specific in my experience. Staten Island doesn’t even register as having character much of anywhere, including accents.

    In Manhattan, there are definitely VERY Upper Class WASP accents in the wealthiest parts of the East Side, especially Park Avenue and Fifth Avenue. Although Anderson Cooper doesn’t have one. I have heard these over the years more from the dowagers I’ve met from time to time. But even some of those speak Standard English–it just isn’t like the “Yankee Midwestern” accents.

    I would suppose the same would be true, with the Senator Hollings kind of accent, in the rich parts of New Orleans. I’ve talked to a lot of New Orleansians, but not gotten to know any. Some are definitely Southern, and the French names, such as ‘Metairie’ are never pronounced even in an americanized French accent. The accent is completely changed. I bought something at a huge flea market on Esplanade, and was saying something about how crowded with tourists every block in the French Quarter was, and he said “We all upset about what they’ve done to the ‘Kwau-tuh’. That ‘er’ that comes out as ‘uh’ or ‘ah’ is like British, except for Cornish–as far as I know, because I’ve been there too, and they do pronounce the ‘r’ unlike Londoners and even Liverpudlians (I just put the places I’ve been so I’m sure I’m at least half sure). The Cornish say ‘cars’, not ‘cahs’.

    I imagine all cities have this ‘verbal class distinction’. I don’t know about LA and the Valley Hunt Club and Pasadena people, but there is no Southern accent I ever heard in CA, but I haven’t been to San Francisco.

    Anyway, accents are fascinating, and I hadn’t even gotten round to thinking about ‘Garden District accent’, because I went there as a tourist and probably spoke to nobody. But all these examples you’ve posted have traces of Southern, as with the long ‘i’ in most of them; as for any Brooklyn, which the narrator even says is famous, I still just can’t hear it.

  161. @FPD72

    Probably a bunch of gay snowbirds looking for rougher trade sex than that typically found in Key West.

  162. Dissident says:
    @Lace

    I imagine a lot of men have discovered that Viagra is fabulous used recreationally, as it were.

    At what cost? I imagine a lot of those who discover the fabulousness that you extol, also go on to discover that it comes at a hefty cost; with at least a high risk of any number of effects that are decidedly unfabulous, including some that are permanent and preclude, for the unfortunate individual who suffers them, any opportunity for discovery

    It’s the difference between ‘hard’ and ‘stone’.

    Or that between a state of warm, animated passion, and one that rapidly approaches not just the stiffness of a stone but the silence and coldness as well…

    In the end, there’s no free lunch, and no cheating nature. It all catches-up eventually, often with a vengeance.

    • Replies: @Lace
  163. Art Deco says:
    @Darwin's Sh-tlist

    Dust didn’t have to settle at all with Truman. He was an admired figure across the board within twenty years of his departure from office. The only people who dissented were that fraction of the word merchant sector which favored the enemy during the Cold War and congenital liars like Garry Wills.

  164. @Anonymous

    “She does the three name thing. Because that’s what liberal women do.”

    You’re all confused. The three-name thing is typical of presidential assassins. She’s going to shoot a president!

  165. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Peak beauty is lower to mid 20’s.

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