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See How They Run is a movie now on streaming that riffs on Agatha Christie’s murder mystery play The Mousetrap (a title derived from that of the play within a play in Hamlet) that has run for 29,000 performances on London’s West End since 1952, and on Tom Stoppard’s brilliant parody of Christie called The Real Inspector Hound.

A delegation from Hollywood is in London in 1953 to begin turning The Mousetrap into a film noir movie, but they all hate the play and have discordant ideas of how to revamp it for the American audience. For example, Adrien Brody plays an obnoxious Hollywood director who wants the climax to be the Scotland Yard inspector shooting it out, guns blazing, with the bad guy. The supercilious gay black English screenwriter played by David Oyelowo informs him that English coppers aren’t armed.

There are a ridiculous number of blacks in the cast — e.g., Agatha Christie’s archaeologist husband is black — perhaps as compensation for Christie’s most popular novel And Then There Were None referencing a nursery rhyme using the N-word. But there’s no attempt to make this movie any more realistic than the two hyper-stylized plays it is based upon, so that seems okay to me.

My view is that the type of show determines how racially realistic the casting should be. Operas are pretty random in terms of casting since what matters most is singing ability, and the whole genre is pretty nuts anyway. Feature film biopics, in contrast, need realistic-looking casting: e.g., Joaquin Phoenix as Ridley Scott’s upcoming Napoleon seems plausible, while Cillian Murphy as Christopher Nolan’s upcoming Robert Oppenheimer could be very good — high cheekbones! — or not good — Nolan’s pal Murphy is Irish, not Jewish. We shall see.

This extremely stagey movie falls toward the operatic end of the spectrum.

And Oyelowo is pretty funny in a role much like a super snobbish half-black Anglo-Irishman I knew in MBA school who, when I asked him what he expected in the 1982 World Cup informed me that only louts cared about soccer, while he of course, being a gentleman, followed cricket.

But then the annoying Hollywood machers start getting murdered and Scotland Yard is called in.

Sam Rockwell plays the lead, Inspector Stoppard (nudge, nudge), and Saoirse Ronan is his righthand woman, Constable Stalker.

Saoirse is a delight.

So it’s a good movie, right? I mean, who ever heard of Sam Rockwell being bad in anything? He was great in Moon, he was great in Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, and he was ideal as George W. Bush in Vice.

Oh, well, in See How They Run, Rockwell is a snooze as the depressed and hung-over detective. I wouldn’t have believed Rockwell could be dull if I hadn’t seen it.

 
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  1. Christie’s most popular novel And Then There Were None referencing a nursery rhyme using the N-word.

    The original title, used in the UK until 1985:

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @for-the-record

    You really enjoyed posting that pic, didn't you?

    Don't blame you one bit. 😂

  2. Well – I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest – sorry, not interested.

    • Agree: BB753, P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    you should perhaps try to regain your sensitivity to aesthetic experience

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Well – I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest – sorry, not interested.
     
    Here is Bardon on an airplane:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsb9B1163k

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Truth
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Smartest post you've made on this site.

  3. So, Christie’s husband is a negro? Pass.

  4. a title derived from

    This title is as likely to evoke “Lady Madonna” as it is “Three Blind Mice”. McCartney’s description of the origin of that song is rather innocent, but I’ve seen the interpretation that the days and times refer to her appointments as a call girl. That may be reading too much into it, as with Lucy and LSD, and Puff and pot.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar


    that the days and times refer to her appointments as a call girl
     
    ...children at her feet
    wonder how she manages to make ends meet?

    (the song follows a rather idiosyncratic logic*** - as does its afterlife/ reception: To This Day on this blog...)

    ***Twisted/ - as sung by Joni Mitchell
    , @Sam Malone
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czhd27cN2dg&ab_channel=TheBeatles-Topic

    Just about the best damn song they ever did. And of course it's all Paul.

  5. It is disappointing to see mentioned in this column a mythical “black English” person.

    While there are a couple of million of black British people (black people born in the UK or at least holding UK nationality), there are not any black English people (people of English ethnicity). English people are – and always have been – white.

    • Agree: P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Thanks.

    It needs saying.

  6. Mrs C and I just watched ‘See How They Run’ this week also.

    I agree it’s generally disappointing. It looks good, and there are some amusing sequences, but overall it’s stodgy and stagnant.

    I also agree about Rockwell — as we were watching, I thought of about half a dozen British actors from crime dramas set in past and present who could have done much more with that role.

    I disagree, though, that this production was sufficiently mannered to excuse casting a black actor to play Max Mallowan, Christie’s husband. Mallowan was a real person who died in the 1970s. He’s not Tristan or Hamlet. I think in cases like this your guidelines for keeping at least within shouting distance of reality should apply.

    The casting of Christie herself was also terrible. Shirley Henderson, the character actress who played her, has featured in some Christie adaptations in the past, so maybe it was some kind of in-house/in-jokey thing, but with her diminutive stature and distinctive screechy voice, Henderson is nothing like Christie. Again, Christie is not a fictional character or someone separated from us by sufficient time and cultural churn to allow for such fanciful casting.

    The issue of real identity vs casting also arose in the context of another movie we watched recently, ‘The Lost King’.

    (Spoilers to follow, so more after the tag if you’ve seen it/don’t plan to/wouldn’t mind some forewarning that won’t lessen the tepid suspense much.)

    [MORE]

    ‘The Lost King’ is a ‘based on a true story’ docudrama BBC job telling the tale of Phillipa Langley, a UK amateur historian/writer who sparked and to some degree (and here’s the rub) led the ultimately successful archeological efforts to find the remains of Richard III in a car park in Leicester.

    ‘The Lost King’ really should have been a treasure-hunt movie. It could have been really fun. But instead, its events are hammered not very subtly into a tired and tiresome victim-overcoming-adversity narrative.

    Langley is played by Sally Hawkins, who does a nice job portraying what the script and the director were no doubt calling for: a waiflike, emaciated, health-compromised (she has ME, which is UKese for chronic fatigue syndrome) victim who never the less triumphs through her grit, her perseverence, her smarts, and, yes, through trusting her feelings, as one arrogant and unsympathetic white man after another tries to derail her quest.

    The focal villain is a smirking bureaucrat from the University of Leicester. He’s first seen sneering at Langley’s proposal to dig for Ricky, but then swoops in to steal the glory as it’s becoming clear the body is really there. In this he’s a synechdoche for the University of Leicester itself, which is depicted very unfavorably, i.e. as essentially stealing Langley’s credit for the discovery to boost its international image.

    After watching the movie, I was thinking about how very specific the implied criticism of Leicester U was, so I looked up the movie’s wikipedia page to see if there had been any blowback. And indeed, the university issued a defensive press release right after the movie premiered, claiming that they’d never stood in Langley’s way, and in fact supported her all along.

    I was shocked to find that the evil bureaucrat in the movie was based on a real person, Richard Taylor, whose name is retained. I had assumed the scriptwriters had made up a generic/composite bad guy, but nope, they followed the iSteve rule and kept to history (very recent history; the body was found in 2012). They turn Taylor into The Evil Face of Male Whiteness: he’s a sexist, he’s a bully, he’s a glory-hog and credit-thief, and the movie implies he’s anti-ableist, which in the context of Langley’s own ME/CFS, may be the biggest slur of all.

    The wikipedia page mentions that Taylor is considering legal action against the filmakers for defamation, and if his character has indeed been impugned as badly as it appears, I hope he does so and wins big. One clue that he’s probably in the right (other than the possibility that a senior adminstrator at a contemporary university exists who acts like the movie Taylor is zero): Langley herself thanks him and the university for their support in the book she wrote about this project:

    “To that remarkable centre of learning, Leicester University, particularly Professor Mark Lansdale, Dr Julian Boon and Dr Turi King for their many kindnesses, and Richard Taylor, Deputy Registrar, for his decision to support the project.”

    There’s more on this controversy in a good BBC review of the film here: LINK

    There is also a detailed article on the controversy from British Archeology magazine that can be downloaded here: LINK. It’s also pretty much on Richard Taylor’s side.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Jesus. They Dean Wormsered the guy.

  7. Secession for whites is fading as an option. The latest white numbers in 2022 for the states still above 75%.

    Maine
    88.9%
    West Virginia
    88.8%
    Vermont
    88.2%
    New Hampshire
    85.6%
    North Dakota
    83.1%
    Iowa
    82.1%
    Montana
    81.5%
    Kentucky
    80.8%
    Wyoming
    80.8%
    South Dakota
    79.0%
    Wisconsin
    78.4%
    Minnesota
    75.9%
    Ohio
    75.7%
    Missouri
    75.6%
    Idaho
    75.5%
    Indiana
    75.2%
    Nebraska
    75.0%

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @anonymous

    Thanks 103. It's good to have commenters pulling out the data and showing the scale of the catastrophe.

    Basically, the core of traditional America--the midwest--is--ignore Chicago--down to about 75% white. Beyond that only some very low population states in the upper inter-mountain West and New England are still mostly white.

    The core of this is simply the massive Latinization of America the past few decades. The Asian thing is significant on the West Coast and the NE--esp. NYC super-metro. But beyond that is just sprinkled around major metros. The Latinos while SW concentrated and now spreading out everywhere and are the only group with replacement fertility.

    But the even more scary part, the potential "finishing blow" is the open border and Steve's "World's Most Important" graph. America--which was healthy and prosperous when I was born--could literally be over before I die. A failure to stop the Parasite Party's open border in the next few years and we could end up slumping right past Brazil and onto South Africa.

  8. Kenneth Branagh’s 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it’s a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except…there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    • Replies: @Director95
    @Elli

    The 1978 version is far superior. No inclusion and no diversity because it is not needed and jarringly out of place.
    There was absolutely no need for a lame remake.

    , @SFG
    @Elli

    Oh, so it’s an anti-American subplot!

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Elli


    Kenneth Branagh’s 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it’s a modern ensemble piece, forget color.
     
    I saw the remake of Murder on the Orient Express that came out a few years ago. They managed to make it fashionably woke. It was crap.
    , @Bill Jones
    @Elli


    Kenneth Branagh’s 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity
     
    No. It wasn't .
    It was cast specifically with a point to make.
    , @Rouetheday
    @Elli

    Branagh's "Murder on the Orient Express" was even more obnoxious in this regard. When Poirot finds out Daisy Ridley's character is having a romance with Leslie Odom's character he asked her why she felt compelled to hide the relationship. He reminded her, "It's not as if we're in the American South". Yeah, because it's not like anyone outside the White trash living in the American South ever had qualms about interracial relationships... in the 1920's.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  9. Sam Rockwell was good in Seven Psychopaths, and I think he was the lawyer in Richard Jewell.

  10. Success of Murder on the Orient Express(2017) seems to have brought crime mystery movies back into the fold. Now we have Game Night(2018), Knives Out(2019), Death on the Nile(2022), See How They Run, Amsterdam, Glass Onion, The Pale Blue Eye(that one looks quite serious). Also A Haunting in Venice scheduled for the next year.

  11. @Reg Cæsar

    a title derived from
     
    This title is as likely to evoke "Lady Madonna" as it is "Three Blind Mice". McCartney's description of the origin of that song is rather innocent, but I've seen the interpretation that the days and times refer to her appointments as a call girl. That may be reading too much into it, as with Lucy and LSD, and Puff and pot.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Sam Malone

    that the days and times refer to her appointments as a call girl

    …children at her feet
    wonder how she manages to make ends meet?

    (the song follows a rather idiosyncratic logic*** – as does its afterlife/ reception: To This Day on this blog…)

    ***Twisted/ – as sung by Joni Mitchell

  12. A real-life murder mystery in Minneapolis:

    https://www.channel3000.com/i/police-mall-of-america-on-lockdown-after-reported-shooting/

    Police Chief Booker Hodges said the victim was a 19-year-old man.

    A bystander’s jacket was also grazed . . .

    There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . .

    at one point, someone pulled out a gun and shot the victim multiple times

    The shoppers in MoM ran, real good, but not even the bystander whose expensive jacket got torn knows who dunnit. Quick, get Agatha Christie to this crime scene because Chief Hodges is absolutely stumped by this crime.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Inquiring Mind

    The scene where all the suspects are gathered together in the food court for Poirot to reveal who-done-dat could get a little shooty though.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Inquiring Mind


    "There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . ."
     
    Several years ago, the msm replaced the word "gang(s)," in the context of shootouts, riots, executions, etc. with "group(s)."

    Replies: @Meretricious

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Inquiring Mind

    Nordstroms? Nerdstroms?

    As Joe Biden would say, you ain't black.

  13. Someone could make The Courier’s Tragedy from “The crying of Lot 49” a real play and then update it so that that social media companies replace the secret courier services.

  14. Saoirse is a delight.

    My own precious 2nd daughter is getting married in late January, my last born boy is having his first born daughter, my first grandchild, in early January.

    Can life get any better than this?

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    To my first grand daughter and my precious 2nd born child about to get married may you bring me 3 boys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3J_2R9rAp8

  15. > My view is that the type of show determines how racially realistic the casting should be.

    I agree, and not just in terms of race. But almost all movies are about the human condition; our nature, our interactions, and so forth. Therefore, it seems to me that when you depict human nature in unrealistic ways, it’s offputting.

    That’s why I dislike most children in movies. If you portray them realistically, they can’t really do anything except play, which isn’t terribly interesting. If you make them wiser then their years, it’s silly.

    It’s also why I find the most annoying trend is to portray women as masculine. That is, they are routinely aggressive, goals-oriented, sassy, vulgar, and even physically strong. We’re no longer in the world of Vasquez from Aliens, where it was obvious to everyone that she was the exception.

    The setting doesn’t matter. People say things like “You’re telling me that you don’t object to this guy casting fireballs and flying, but you find a women being the dominant warrior unrealistic?” Yes, because in the movie, fireballs and flying are part of the setting. If a movie makes it clear that in its setting, human nature is different from ours, then I don’t object to Amazon warriors — at least not on the grounds of consistency. (In the modern day, I would assume such a setting is part of an agenda, and would be annoyed by that).

    > Operas are pretty random in terms of casting since what matters most is singing ability

    Agreed. Operas are a performance first, and a portrayal second. In that way, they are a bit more like sports. No reasonable person thinks black dominating as NFL cornerbacks is from an agenda.

  16. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Mrs C and I just watched 'See How They Run' this week also.

    I agree it's generally disappointing. It looks good, and there are some amusing sequences, but overall it's stodgy and stagnant.

    I also agree about Rockwell -- as we were watching, I thought of about half a dozen British actors from crime dramas set in past and present who could have done much more with that role.

    I disagree, though, that this production was sufficiently mannered to excuse casting a black actor to play Max Mallowan, Christie's husband. Mallowan was a real person who died in the 1970s. He's not Tristan or Hamlet. I think in cases like this your guidelines for keeping at least within shouting distance of reality should apply.

    The casting of Christie herself was also terrible. Shirley Henderson, the character actress who played her, has featured in some Christie adaptations in the past, so maybe it was some kind of in-house/in-jokey thing, but with her diminutive stature and distinctive screechy voice, Henderson is nothing like Christie. Again, Christie is not a fictional character or someone separated from us by sufficient time and cultural churn to allow for such fanciful casting.

    The issue of real identity vs casting also arose in the context of another movie we watched recently, 'The Lost King'.

    (Spoilers to follow, so more after the tag if you've seen it/don't plan to/wouldn't mind some forewarning that won't lessen the tepid suspense much.)

    'The Lost King' is a 'based on a true story' docudrama BBC job telling the tale of Phillipa Langley, a UK amateur historian/writer who sparked and to some degree (and here's the rub) led the ultimately successful archeological efforts to find the remains of Richard III in a car park in Leicester.

    'The Lost King' really should have been a treasure-hunt movie. It could have been really fun. But instead, its events are hammered not very subtly into a tired and tiresome victim-overcoming-adversity narrative.

    Langley is played by Sally Hawkins, who does a nice job portraying what the script and the director were no doubt calling for: a waiflike, emaciated, health-compromised (she has ME, which is UKese for chronic fatigue syndrome) victim who never the less triumphs through her grit, her perseverence, her smarts, and, yes, through trusting her feelings, as one arrogant and unsympathetic white man after another tries to derail her quest.

    The focal villain is a smirking bureaucrat from the University of Leicester. He's first seen sneering at Langley's proposal to dig for Ricky, but then swoops in to steal the glory as it's becoming clear the body is really there. In this he's a synechdoche for the University of Leicester itself, which is depicted very unfavorably, i.e. as essentially stealing Langley's credit for the discovery to boost its international image.

    After watching the movie, I was thinking about how very specific the implied criticism of Leicester U was, so I looked up the movie's wikipedia page to see if there had been any blowback. And indeed, the university issued a defensive press release right after the movie premiered, claiming that they'd never stood in Langley's way, and in fact supported her all along.

    I was shocked to find that the evil bureaucrat in the movie was based on a real person, Richard Taylor, whose name is retained. I had assumed the scriptwriters had made up a generic/composite bad guy, but nope, they followed the iSteve rule and kept to history (very recent history; the body was found in 2012). They turn Taylor into The Evil Face of Male Whiteness: he's a sexist, he's a bully, he's a glory-hog and credit-thief, and the movie implies he's anti-ableist, which in the context of Langley's own ME/CFS, may be the biggest slur of all.

    The wikipedia page mentions that Taylor is considering legal action against the filmakers for defamation, and if his character has indeed been impugned as badly as it appears, I hope he does so and wins big. One clue that he's probably in the right (other than the possibility that a senior adminstrator at a contemporary university exists who acts like the movie Taylor is zero): Langley herself thanks him and the university for their support in the book she wrote about this project:

    "To that remarkable centre of learning, Leicester University, particularly Professor Mark Lansdale, Dr Julian Boon and Dr Turi King for their many kindnesses, and Richard Taylor, Deputy Registrar, for his decision to support the project."

     

    There's more on this controversy in a good BBC review of the film here: LINK

    There is also a detailed article on the controversy from British Archeology magazine that can be downloaded here: LINK. It's also pretty much on Richard Taylor's side.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Jesus. They Dean Wormsered the guy.

  17. @Pat Hannagan
    Saoirse is a delight.

    My own precious 2nd daughter is getting married in late January, my last born boy is having his first born daughter, my first grandchild, in early January.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgwpT4OP7-I

    Can life get any better than this?

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    To my first grand daughter and my precious 2nd born child about to get married may you bring me 3 boys.

  18. Last night I watched the Glass Onion. 2 out of the 9 principal characters were black, which was at least one too many. But not just that. One is a black supergenius scientist, Leslie Odom Jr.. The other is a black supergenius businesswoman, Janelle Monáe, who was cheated out of her company by white guy Edward Norton, who is revealed to be really stupid and evil.

    In fact all of the white characters are stupid and evil, with the while females only slightly less so than the males. The detective character played by Daniel Craig is revealed to be gay, so he gets a break. The hierarchy of good and evil is as rigid and predictable and stylized as anything found in Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, it’s just that the totem pole is now turned upside down. Nowadays the Indians must always beat the cowboys.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    One person with whom I correspond is a lapsed clergyman who collects American history textbooks. His oldest is a volume published in 1933. He said his has yet to find an example in those old textbooks of something analogous to the 'whiteness' discourse in the most recent history textbooks (and in the 'diversity' training his wife had to undergo at the business concern where he works). It's not the totem pole turned over. This is something novel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    Thanks for the Glass Onion review. Now I definitely won't watch it.

    The ending of its predecessor Knives Out made no sense to me, Daniel Craig's Southern accent was the worst I have ever heard, and only the lovely Ana de Armas made the movie at all bearable.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Telimektar
    @Jack D

    That's just the way the Jews demonize White folks for being at the top (they aren't) while the Blacks are being put down by "The (white) Man". Hollywood has ALWAYS been that way, and Western European film/music/literary industry is no better, that's just called projecting, good divided Goys are good Goys.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Jack D

    I agree, you saw the same movie I did.
    It grated throughout.

  19. Steve, what did you think of Zelensky’s outfit as he demanded money from American tax payers at our Nation’s capital?

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Mike Tre

    https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2021.05/l/60a6969f203027081c08866d.jpg
    Meh.

    , @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

  20. There are a ridiculous number of blacks in the cast

    Hard pass.

    I don’t mind seeing blacks in movies where appropriate (e.g. Glory or Denzel Washington in just about everything), but the rampant overuse of blacks in film (or adverts) for the sake of ideology is a complete turnoff to me.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Twinkie

    Even the Daily Jumble puzzle on the comics page has reached a bizarre point where half the characters are shaded in to indicate they're black. If Peanuts was still being drawn today Linus and Lucy would be black and Schroeder would be gay

    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    It's a rule so if you want to watch anything new, get used to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/sep/09/oscars-diversity-rules-hollywood

    Replies: @Brutusale

  21. @Jack D
    Last night I watched the Glass Onion. 2 out of the 9 principal characters were black, which was at least one too many. But not just that. One is a black supergenius scientist, Leslie Odom Jr.. The other is a black supergenius businesswoman, Janelle Monáe, who was cheated out of her company by white guy Edward Norton, who is revealed to be really stupid and evil.

    In fact all of the white characters are stupid and evil, with the while females only slightly less so than the males. The detective character played by Daniel Craig is revealed to be gay, so he gets a break. The hierarchy of good and evil is as rigid and predictable and stylized as anything found in Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, it's just that the totem pole is now turned upside down. Nowadays the Indians must always beat the cowboys.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Telimektar, @Bill Jones

    One person with whom I correspond is a lapsed clergyman who collects American history textbooks. His oldest is a volume published in 1933. He said his has yet to find an example in those old textbooks of something analogous to the ‘whiteness’ discourse in the most recent history textbooks (and in the ‘diversity’ training his wife had to undergo at the business concern where he works). It’s not the totem pole turned over. This is something novel.

    • Thanks: Poirot
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    Sure, history books were never that explicit. Of course, (almost) all of the people who "made history" were white men - the "Founding Fathers" and so on. But it wasn't rubbed in your face - that's just how it was. They weren't going to retcon history and put black women at the signing of the Declaration if they weren't actually there.

    Of course if you looked closely, blacks were there all along - they were just lurking in the background.

    Here is a Turnbull portrait of Washington and next to him is his valet, Billy Lee. Then again, next to him is also Washington's horse.

    https://washingtonpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/William-Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull-1780.-Courtesy-of-Metropolitan-Museum-of-Art.-PD.jpg

    Of course, in the modern discourse, this is a portrait of Bill Lee only. The name of the file in which this photo is stored is "William-Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull-1780....jpg". Who is that dead white guy standing next to Billy Lee?

    Maybe in the old history books they should have said "Portrait of George Washington and William Lee", or "Portrait of George Washington , William Lee and Nelson the Horse" instead of "Portrait of George Washington" but they had their reasons given that Washington was the military genius who won the revolution and Billy Lee took care of a horse. But calling the portrait "Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull" is just idiotic. They are just making themselves look stupid, like the way that we laugh at photos of Stalin where his enemies are airbrushed out of the picture.

    https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTU3ODc4NjAzNTIxNzMwMjcx/image-placeholder-title.webp

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Thanks.
    I try to collect old textbooks. I find the twelve volume Golden Book American history encyclopedia set to be awesome. There's a splash page illustration of New England Indians brutally attacking settlers which I cannot upload or find online, but it's pretty unpublishable now.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  22. “The supercilious gay black English screenwriter…”

    Expert noticers tend to observe that Gays tend to be quite good at writing ensemble stories about rich people.

  23. @Elli
    Kenneth Branagh's 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it's a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except...there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    Replies: @Director95, @SFG, @Mr. Anon, @Bill Jones, @Rouetheday

    The 1978 version is far superior. No inclusion and no diversity because it is not needed and jarringly out of place.
    There was absolutely no need for a lame remake.

  24. the media on the media on the media. this movie is pure shit just like steve.

  25. Genres may determine the level of multiracialism today, but that will change. Just as there isn’t cinema anymore — rather, there are television series on the silver screen — movies will go through other changes. Period films will come to be billed as “reimaginings.”

    Such as… THIS SUMMER, COME SEE JADEN SMITH AS HERCULES IN JORDAN PEELE’S REIMAGINING OF THE EPIC TALE OF HEROISM AND HONOR!

  26. @Elli
    Kenneth Branagh's 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it's a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except...there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    Replies: @Director95, @SFG, @Mr. Anon, @Bill Jones, @Rouetheday

    Oh, so it’s an anti-American subplot!

  27. @Mike Tre
    Steve, what did you think of Zelensky's outfit as he demanded money from American tax payers at our Nation's capital?

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jack D


    Meh.

    • LOL: BB753
  28. @Inquiring Mind
    A real-life murder mystery in Minneapolis:

    https://www.channel3000.com/i/police-mall-of-america-on-lockdown-after-reported-shooting/


    Police Chief Booker Hodges said the victim was a 19-year-old man.

    A bystander’s jacket was also grazed . . .

    There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . .

    at one point, someone pulled out a gun and shot the victim multiple times

     

    The shoppers in MoM ran, real good, but not even the bystander whose expensive jacket got torn knows who dunnit. Quick, get Agatha Christie to this crime scene because Chief Hodges is absolutely stumped by this crime.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Nicholas Stix, @Reg Cæsar

    The scene where all the suspects are gathered together in the food court for Poirot to reveal who-done-dat could get a little shooty though.

  29. @Jack D
    Last night I watched the Glass Onion. 2 out of the 9 principal characters were black, which was at least one too many. But not just that. One is a black supergenius scientist, Leslie Odom Jr.. The other is a black supergenius businesswoman, Janelle Monáe, who was cheated out of her company by white guy Edward Norton, who is revealed to be really stupid and evil.

    In fact all of the white characters are stupid and evil, with the while females only slightly less so than the males. The detective character played by Daniel Craig is revealed to be gay, so he gets a break. The hierarchy of good and evil is as rigid and predictable and stylized as anything found in Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, it's just that the totem pole is now turned upside down. Nowadays the Indians must always beat the cowboys.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Telimektar, @Bill Jones

    Thanks for the Glass Onion review. Now I definitely won’t watch it.

    The ending of its predecessor Knives Out made no sense to me, Daniel Craig’s Southern accent was the worst I have ever heard, and only the lovely Ana de Armas made the movie at all bearable.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    Well if you think the ending of Knives Out made no sense, you're gonna LOVE the ending of Glass Onion. Knives Out at least did not stray into the realm of science fiction.

    Madelyn Cline is very easy on the eyes and since the film is set on a Greek island she spends a lot of her screen time in swimwear. But she is a rather peripheral character and not enough to redeem the movie.

  30. @Jack D
    Last night I watched the Glass Onion. 2 out of the 9 principal characters were black, which was at least one too many. But not just that. One is a black supergenius scientist, Leslie Odom Jr.. The other is a black supergenius businesswoman, Janelle Monáe, who was cheated out of her company by white guy Edward Norton, who is revealed to be really stupid and evil.

    In fact all of the white characters are stupid and evil, with the while females only slightly less so than the males. The detective character played by Daniel Craig is revealed to be gay, so he gets a break. The hierarchy of good and evil is as rigid and predictable and stylized as anything found in Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, it's just that the totem pole is now turned upside down. Nowadays the Indians must always beat the cowboys.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Telimektar, @Bill Jones

    That’s just the way the Jews demonize White folks for being at the top (they aren’t) while the Blacks are being put down by “The (white) Man”. Hollywood has ALWAYS been that way, and Western European film/music/literary industry is no better, that’s just called projecting, good divided Goys are good Goys.

  31. @Elli
    Kenneth Branagh's 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it's a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except...there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    Replies: @Director95, @SFG, @Mr. Anon, @Bill Jones, @Rouetheday

    Kenneth Branagh’s 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it’s a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    I saw the remake of Murder on the Orient Express that came out a few years ago. They managed to make it fashionably woke. It was crap.

  32. Feature film biopics, in contrast, need realistic-looking casting: e.g., Joaquin Phoenix as Ridley Scott’s upcoming Napoleon seems plausible, while Cillian Murphy as Christopher Nolan’s upcoming Robert Oppenheimer could be very good — high cheekbones! — or not good — Nolan’s pal Murphy is Irish, not Jewish. We shall see.

    Sam Waterston played Oppenheimer in a 1980 BBC mini-series. He wasn’t bad in it either:

  33. Why not focus on what appears to be a surprisingly good period piece set in post-Colonial America, The Pale Blue Eye, from Netflix of all places?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    They had me at Bale and Duvall.

    Replies: @Kylie

  34. 5722349

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None
    https://archive.vn/MZgCM

    Cover of first UK 1939 edition with original title

    [MORE]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Little_Niggers
    https://archive.vn/soZ0a

    Ten Little Niggers may refer to:

    • “Ten Little Indians“, a modern children’s rhyme, a major variant of which is “Ten Little Niggers”
    And Then There Were None, a 1939 novel by Agatha Christie which was originally published as Ten Little Niggers and later as Ten Little Indians

    And Then There Were None (play), a 1943 play by Agatha Christie adapting her novel, performed in the United Kingdom as Ten Little Niggers
    And Then There Were None (1945 film), released in the UK as Ten Little Niggers
    Negrityat (Ten Little Niggers/Negroes, Russian: Десять негритят), 1987 Soviet film adaptation

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  35. @Richard of Melbourne
    It is disappointing to see mentioned in this column a mythical "black English" person.

    While there are a couple of million of black British people (black people born in the UK or at least holding UK nationality), there are not any black English people (people of English ethnicity). English people are - and always have been - white.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Thanks.

    It needs saying.

  36. @Elli
    Kenneth Branagh's 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it's a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except...there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    Replies: @Director95, @SFG, @Mr. Anon, @Bill Jones, @Rouetheday

    Kenneth Branagh’s 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity

    No. It wasn’t .
    It was cast specifically with a point to make.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  37. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    One person with whom I correspond is a lapsed clergyman who collects American history textbooks. His oldest is a volume published in 1933. He said his has yet to find an example in those old textbooks of something analogous to the 'whiteness' discourse in the most recent history textbooks (and in the 'diversity' training his wife had to undergo at the business concern where he works). It's not the totem pole turned over. This is something novel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    Sure, history books were never that explicit. Of course, (almost) all of the people who “made history” were white men – the “Founding Fathers” and so on. But it wasn’t rubbed in your face – that’s just how it was. They weren’t going to retcon history and put black women at the signing of the Declaration if they weren’t actually there.

    Of course if you looked closely, blacks were there all along – they were just lurking in the background.

    Here is a Turnbull portrait of Washington and next to him is his valet, Billy Lee. Then again, next to him is also Washington’s horse.

    Of course, in the modern discourse, this is a portrait of Bill Lee only. The name of the file in which this photo is stored is “William-Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull-1780….jpg”. Who is that dead white guy standing next to Billy Lee?

    Maybe in the old history books they should have said “Portrait of George Washington and William Lee”, or “Portrait of George Washington , William Lee and Nelson the Horse” instead of “Portrait of George Washington” but they had their reasons given that Washington was the military genius who won the revolution and Billy Lee took care of a horse. But calling the portrait “Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull” is just idiotic. They are just making themselves look stupid, like the way that we laugh at photos of Stalin where his enemies are airbrushed out of the picture.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    You're off on some tangent of your own.

  38. @Jack D
    Last night I watched the Glass Onion. 2 out of the 9 principal characters were black, which was at least one too many. But not just that. One is a black supergenius scientist, Leslie Odom Jr.. The other is a black supergenius businesswoman, Janelle Monáe, who was cheated out of her company by white guy Edward Norton, who is revealed to be really stupid and evil.

    In fact all of the white characters are stupid and evil, with the while females only slightly less so than the males. The detective character played by Daniel Craig is revealed to be gay, so he gets a break. The hierarchy of good and evil is as rigid and predictable and stylized as anything found in Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, it's just that the totem pole is now turned upside down. Nowadays the Indians must always beat the cowboys.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Telimektar, @Bill Jones

    I agree, you saw the same movie I did.
    It grated throughout.

  39. Cillian Murphy as Christopher Nolan’s upcoming Robert Oppenheimer could be very good

    Murphy is good and that should work.

    The absolute BEST J. Robert Oppy was Joseph Wiseman who is still remembered as DR NO in the very first James Bond movie, 1962.

    Wiseman played Oppy in the 1969 Broadway play, “In The Matter of J. Robert Oppenheimer”. He bore an amazing resemblance tot he original.

  40. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    Sure, history books were never that explicit. Of course, (almost) all of the people who "made history" were white men - the "Founding Fathers" and so on. But it wasn't rubbed in your face - that's just how it was. They weren't going to retcon history and put black women at the signing of the Declaration if they weren't actually there.

    Of course if you looked closely, blacks were there all along - they were just lurking in the background.

    Here is a Turnbull portrait of Washington and next to him is his valet, Billy Lee. Then again, next to him is also Washington's horse.

    https://washingtonpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/William-Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull-1780.-Courtesy-of-Metropolitan-Museum-of-Art.-PD.jpg

    Of course, in the modern discourse, this is a portrait of Bill Lee only. The name of the file in which this photo is stored is "William-Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull-1780....jpg". Who is that dead white guy standing next to Billy Lee?

    Maybe in the old history books they should have said "Portrait of George Washington and William Lee", or "Portrait of George Washington , William Lee and Nelson the Horse" instead of "Portrait of George Washington" but they had their reasons given that Washington was the military genius who won the revolution and Billy Lee took care of a horse. But calling the portrait "Billy-Lee-by-John-Trumbull" is just idiotic. They are just making themselves look stupid, like the way that we laugh at photos of Stalin where his enemies are airbrushed out of the picture.

    https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTU3ODc4NjAzNTIxNzMwMjcx/image-placeholder-title.webp

    Replies: @Art Deco

    You’re off on some tangent of your own.

  41. There is a ridiculous number of blacks in the cast because Hollywood has a self-imposed rule that at least 40% of a movie’s cast must be POC ( usually black, lest a Hispanic without an accent be mistaken for white) and that no more than 30% be caucasian males.

    Every single Hollywood product. It’s one of those things that you can’t unsee once you notice it, like how the line “let’s get out of here!” appears in almost all movie scripts, or how most married couples in television commercials are interracial (as Brandon has boasted).

    This is in addition to new Academy award eligibility requirements, which set forth that to get a trophy, the movie must have plenty of non-whites and/or non-straights on both sides of the camera. According to The Advocate, the new rules call for “at least two of the following creative leadership positions and department heads — casting director, cinematographer, composer, costume designer, director, editor, hairstylist, makeup artist, producer, production designer, set decorator, sound, VFX supervisor, writer” to be from underrepresented grups [sic].” They must be “women, LGBTQ+ people, nonwhite people, and people with ‘cognitive and physical disabilities.’ ”

    I’ve seen plenty of movies that appear to have been directed by a person with cognitive disabilities – but now Hollywood will have a ready excuse for that.

    All of this reminds me of how deftly one person, Jada Pinkett Smith, hammered the final nails into the coffin of the Oscars as a highly-rated television broadcast. In 2016, she boycotted the ceremony, bitching about “Oscars So White,” thus prompting the academy to give the best picture statue to the mediocre (but all black!) Moonlight the following year.

    That movie was so wildly unpopular that it failed to make the list of the top one hundred grossing films of the year. But, in stark contrast, Metacritics rates it as the ninth greatest movie of all time. Most of us don’t know what we’re missing.

    Then, in 2022, she motivated her husband to begin an involuntary ten year boycott by giving him the stink eye when another black man made a joke about her hair. She also ruined whatever chance he may have had at an NAACP Image Award.

  42. How about this for a sense of entitlement.

    A newly-revealed alleged 37-page staffer guide for Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-AZ) has raised concerns among ethics experts that she might be crossing the line in terms of the tasks that she allegedly demands of her staff.

    The memo, obtained by The Daily Beast, is effectively a long list of dos and don’ts for staffers to follow to meet all of Sinema’s demands.

    The memo instructs staff to contact Sinema at the start of every week to “ask if she needs groceries” and to respond to the proper staff notifying them that the tasks have been completed. The staff are reimbursed through CashApp.

    And naturally there’s more:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/alleged-37-page-staffer-guide-for-kyrsten-sinema-it-is-your-job-to-make-her-as-comfortable-as-possible

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Bill Jones

    I'm not sure I'd take this story at face value.

    , @Known Fact
    @Bill Jones

    True or not you're only seeing now because she's symbolically snubbed the Democrats

  43. Musk does good.

    Parag Agrawal, the former CEO of Twitter, has been arrested for possession of child pornography after a tip off from Elon Musk.

    https://vancouvertimes.org/former-twitter-ceo-parag-agrawal-arrested-for-child-porn/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    This is made up, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910, @Bill Jones

  44. How many black screenwriters were there in 1950s British cinema? You get sick of the lies.

    Oh, and Agatha Christie wasn’t a coalburner.

  45. @Bardon Kaldian
    Well - I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest - sorry, not interested.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Truth

    you should perhaps try to regain your sensitivity to aesthetic experience

  46. “See How They Run”

    Huh, when I saw the title of your post, I thought it’s a return to the McKinsey/Alison Mariella Désir re the unbearable whiteness of running and ‘See How They Run’ is a meditation on the movement of Black bodies through space. Turns out I was right.

  47. @Inquiring Mind
    A real-life murder mystery in Minneapolis:

    https://www.channel3000.com/i/police-mall-of-america-on-lockdown-after-reported-shooting/


    Police Chief Booker Hodges said the victim was a 19-year-old man.

    A bystander’s jacket was also grazed . . .

    There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . .

    at one point, someone pulled out a gun and shot the victim multiple times

     

    The shoppers in MoM ran, real good, but not even the bystander whose expensive jacket got torn knows who dunnit. Quick, get Agatha Christie to this crime scene because Chief Hodges is absolutely stumped by this crime.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Nicholas Stix, @Reg Cæsar

    “There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . .”

    Several years ago, the msm replaced the word “gang(s),” in the context of shootouts, riots, executions, etc. with “group(s).”

    • LOL: Meretricious
    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Nicholas Stix

    I suggest using "buffoonery," which is the name for a group of orangutans

  48. Gentlemen,

    Merry Christmas…

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Truth

    …and a Happy Schwanza to you and yours:

    https://i.ibb.co/0YtRNbf/CFD3-F98-D-E2-EB-4821-A672-585234008-E94.jpg

  49. @Nicholas Stix
    @Inquiring Mind


    "There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . ."
     
    Several years ago, the msm replaced the word "gang(s)," in the context of shootouts, riots, executions, etc. with "group(s)."

    Replies: @Meretricious

    I suggest using “buffoonery,” which is the name for a group of orangutans

  50. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Agatha Christie’s archaeologist husband is black — perhaps as compensation for Christie’s most popular novel And Then There Were None referencing a nursery rhyme using the N-word.

    Such reasoning is as absurdly disingenuous as the reason that white women reject asian men because of 19th century railroad labor and Japanese-American internment camps.

    White women matched with black men is the new standard in just about everything. Not a one-off thing because of an Agatha Christie novel but all over commercials and movies.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    But in a biopic film, it’s best to go for a semblance of historical accuracy. Christie’s husband was white.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

  51. @for-the-record
    Christie’s most popular novel And Then There Were None referencing a nursery rhyme using the N-word.

    The original title, used in the UK until 1985:

    https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deka-mikroi-negroi-agglika.jpg

    Replies: @Kylie

    You really enjoyed posting that pic, didn’t you?

    Don’t blame you one bit. 😂

    • Agree: Mike Tre
  52. @Bill Jones
    Musk does good.

    Parag Agrawal, the former CEO of Twitter, has been arrested for possession of child pornography after a tip off from Elon Musk.
     
    https://vancouvertimes.org/former-twitter-ceo-parag-agrawal-arrested-for-child-porn/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    This is made up, right?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Gigantic story if true, yet only on two "fake news" looking sites, plus the "Vancouver Times" says they actually talked to Musk himself for the story, which sounds wildly wrong.
    South Asians do think that child molestation is normal, but then they also think that slavery is normal, so in their hell-societies the one generally takes care of the other. You don't need a hard drive when you can just buy an actual child.
    It is true and massively under-reported or censored that Twitter (likewise YouTube) were a new Tijuana or Bangkok of tolerated pædo activity, however, no one has shown that top leadership were in on it. There is huge overlap of antifa types and pædos, so there is a likely pædo presence in a place being administered by antifa types; the way twitter works, there has to have been rank and file infiltration (some of the people Musk fired). But yeah I would expect to see sources apart from the same regime propaganda trash that censored Hunter's China bribery. NY Post and UK Daily Mail at a minimum.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    https://vancouvertimes.org/about-us/


    Vancouver Times is the most trusted source for satire on the West Coast. We write satirical stories about issues that affect conservatives.
     
    , @Bill Jones
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, but it made you look.

    I was gonna keep it til April first but who knows if we'll get there?

  53. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    Thanks for the Glass Onion review. Now I definitely won't watch it.

    The ending of its predecessor Knives Out made no sense to me, Daniel Craig's Southern accent was the worst I have ever heard, and only the lovely Ana de Armas made the movie at all bearable.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Well if you think the ending of Knives Out made no sense, you’re gonna LOVE the ending of Glass Onion. Knives Out at least did not stray into the realm of science fiction.

    Madelyn Cline is very easy on the eyes and since the film is set on a Greek island she spends a lot of her screen time in swimwear. But she is a rather peripheral character and not enough to redeem the movie.

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  54. @Mike Tre
    Steve, what did you think of Zelensky's outfit as he demanded money from American tax payers at our Nation's capital?

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jack D

    1. He didn’t “demand” anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn’t gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it’s different.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    Whatever you think of Zelensky, he is a courageous guy because in the long run he's a dead man. Putin will have him killed sooner or later.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    A t-shirt or a sweatshirt isn't a uniform, it's exercise gear. After all that January 6th talk he effectively addressed congress in underwear.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Mike Tre
    @Jack D

    If you want to write Zelensky a personal check then by all means go ahead. The fact that you feel that every US taxpayer should be forced at gunpoint to give money to Ukraine or any other foreign nation is exactly why you're the irredeemable piece of garbage that you are.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    , @Dube
    @Jack D

    https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjdzcTSv5X8AhXEA60GHayZDeYYABAFGgJwdg&ae=2&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbeD2obSAWg52HFXWbGmzoLr6nSimUIxKJOIal0K423bSQdmvzLkDE5bXnD9j5SifAZRD2s36AGeDUJ-FaPT9i1TSQCCvd_DgyVPyEFyIfFsP-al1QvmSluxzNKLDm_9jIUzyf0kmJsJ9yYW93HQ&sig=AOD64_3uJ9TruigMNypBEyMhjtk4VlXD0A&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwj1jL7Sv5X8AhWhCjQIHTzfDUwQ9aACKAB6BAgDEBY&adurl=

    FDR topped off the meticulous civilian image with a magnificnt Inverness cape, which is a Naval officer's cloak.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    1. He didn’t “demand” anything. He pleaded.
     
    Pleading that insistant amounts to a demand.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:
     
    Yeah, and both of them did anything in their power to drag us into their war too.
  55. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    Whatever you think of Zelensky, he is a courageous guy because in the long run he’s a dead man. Putin will have him killed sooner or later.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    We'll see who lasts longer. There are plenty of people in Russia (including some very close to him) who would prefer to have Putin dead right about now.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Art Deco
    @Jim Don Bob

    In the long run, we're all dead. Here and now, he's 25 years younger than VP and is not suffering from an essential tremor.

    VPs capacity to make things happen has in the last 10 months been revealed to be vastly overrated.

  56. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    A t-shirt or a sweatshirt isn’t a uniform, it’s exercise gear. After all that January 6th talk he effectively addressed congress in underwear.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    It struck the perfect note because dressing up like a Generalissimo in a dress uniform with a chestful of medals would also come off badly in the modern context. You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn't like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect. Militarish without being actually military.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

  57. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    This is made up, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910, @Bill Jones

    Gigantic story if true, yet only on two “fake news” looking sites, plus the “Vancouver Times” says they actually talked to Musk himself for the story, which sounds wildly wrong.
    South Asians do think that child molestation is normal, but then they also think that slavery is normal, so in their hell-societies the one generally takes care of the other. You don’t need a hard drive when you can just buy an actual child.
    It is true and massively under-reported or censored that Twitter (likewise YouTube) were a new Tijuana or Bangkok of tolerated pædo activity, however, no one has shown that top leadership were in on it. There is huge overlap of antifa types and pædos, so there is a likely pædo presence in a place being administered by antifa types; the way twitter works, there has to have been rank and file infiltration (some of the people Musk fired). But yeah I would expect to see sources apart from the same regime propaganda trash that censored Hunter’s China bribery. NY Post and UK Daily Mail at a minimum.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @J.Ross

    Video allegedly showing the cash sale of children in India:

    https://vidmax.com/video/216776-video-of-children-being-sold-in-india

  58. @anonymous
    Secession for whites is fading as an option. The latest white numbers in 2022 for the states still above 75%.

    Maine
    88.9%
    West Virginia
    88.8%
    Vermont
    88.2%
    New Hampshire
    85.6%
    North Dakota
    83.1%
    Iowa
    82.1%
    Montana
    81.5%
    Kentucky
    80.8%
    Wyoming
    80.8%
    South Dakota
    79.0%
    Wisconsin
    78.4%
    Minnesota
    75.9%
    Ohio
    75.7%
    Missouri
    75.6%
    Idaho
    75.5%
    Indiana
    75.2%
    Nebraska
    75.0%

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Thanks 103. It’s good to have commenters pulling out the data and showing the scale of the catastrophe.

    Basically, the core of traditional America–the midwest–is–ignore Chicago–down to about 75% white. Beyond that only some very low population states in the upper inter-mountain West and New England are still mostly white.

    The core of this is simply the massive Latinization of America the past few decades. The Asian thing is significant on the West Coast and the NE–esp. NYC super-metro. But beyond that is just sprinkled around major metros. The Latinos while SW concentrated and now spreading out everywhere and are the only group with replacement fertility.

    But the even more scary part, the potential “finishing blow” is the open border and Steve’s “World’s Most Important” graph. America–which was healthy and prosperous when I was born–could literally be over before I die. A failure to stop the Parasite Party’s open border in the next few years and we could end up slumping right past Brazil and onto South Africa.

  59. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    One person with whom I correspond is a lapsed clergyman who collects American history textbooks. His oldest is a volume published in 1933. He said his has yet to find an example in those old textbooks of something analogous to the 'whiteness' discourse in the most recent history textbooks (and in the 'diversity' training his wife had to undergo at the business concern where he works). It's not the totem pole turned over. This is something novel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    Thanks.
    I try to collect old textbooks. I find the twelve volume Golden Book American history encyclopedia set to be awesome. There’s a splash page illustration of New England Indians brutally attacking settlers which I cannot upload or find online, but it’s pretty unpublishable now.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @J.Ross

    Look for old encyclopedias. My friend had a full set published in 1910 that he got from his grandfather, and there were things in it regarding a whole host of issues, not just race, that would cause it to be burned today.

  60. I loved playing the haughty theater critic Birdboot in Stoppard’s The Real Inspector Hound, who gets drawn by intrigue onstage from the vengeful cast into a surprise gunshot and his own Agatha Christie murder. While I made Birdboot’s megalomaniacal declamations onstage withinin the action of the plot, my bright director had me pour a glass of stage booze from a decanter, take a big slug and hold it in puffed cheeks, while looking unsuccessfully for a place to spit, and then swallow the reality with disgust. Whereupon, a shot, and I drop to the floor. I’d say my floor drop is as good as anybody’s.

  61. @Truth
    Gentlemen,

    Merry Christmas...

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ef/58/65/ef5865cd2986de8b446d7a9d87bdace9--black-magazine-guernica.jpg

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    …and a Happy Schwanza to you and yours:

  62. @Anonymous
    Agatha Christie’s archaeologist husband is black — perhaps as compensation for Christie’s most popular novel And Then There Were None referencing a nursery rhyme using the N-word.

    Such reasoning is as absurdly disingenuous as the reason that white women reject asian men because of 19th century railroad labor and Japanese-American internment camps.

    White women matched with black men is the new standard in just about everything. Not a one-off thing because of an Agatha Christie novel but all over commercials and movies.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    But in a biopic film, it’s best to go for a semblance of historical accuracy. Christie’s husband was white.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It's not a biopic, it's a quasi-Stoppardian riff on a Stoppardian riff on an extremely stylized Christie play.

    , @Truth
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Sure, but Christie was a dude.

    https://www.shared.com/content/images/2017/09/agatha-christie-promojpg.jpg

  63. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    But in a biopic film, it’s best to go for a semblance of historical accuracy. Christie’s husband was white.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

    It’s not a biopic, it’s a quasi-Stoppardian riff on a Stoppardian riff on an extremely stylized Christie play.

  64. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    This is made up, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910, @Bill Jones

    https://vancouvertimes.org/about-us/

    Vancouver Times is the most trusted source for satire on the West Coast. We write satirical stories about issues that affect conservatives.

  65. @Bill Jones
    How about this for a sense of entitlement.

    A newly-revealed alleged 37-page staffer guide for Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-AZ) has raised concerns among ethics experts that she might be crossing the line in terms of the tasks that she allegedly demands of her staff.

    The memo, obtained by The Daily Beast, is effectively a long list of dos and don’ts for staffers to follow to meet all of Sinema’s demands.

    The memo instructs staff to contact Sinema at the start of every week to “ask if she needs groceries” and to respond to the proper staff notifying them that the tasks have been completed. The staff are reimbursed through CashApp.
     

    And naturally there's more:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/alleged-37-page-staffer-guide-for-kyrsten-sinema-it-is-your-job-to-make-her-as-comfortable-as-possible

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Known Fact

    I’m not sure I’d take this story at face value.

  66. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Why not focus on what appears to be a surprisingly good period piece set in post-Colonial America, The Pale Blue Eye, from Netflix of all places?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddbL9jvg77w

    Replies: @Brutusale

    They had me at Bale and Duvall.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Brutusale

    "They had me at Bale and Duvall."

    OMG. Two of the greatest film actors ever.

    I guess they have me now, too.

    Thanks.

  67. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Thanks.
    I try to collect old textbooks. I find the twelve volume Golden Book American history encyclopedia set to be awesome. There's a splash page illustration of New England Indians brutally attacking settlers which I cannot upload or find online, but it's pretty unpublishable now.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Look for old encyclopedias. My friend had a full set published in 1910 that he got from his grandfather, and there were things in it regarding a whole host of issues, not just race, that would cause it to be burned today.

  68. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    A t-shirt or a sweatshirt isn't a uniform, it's exercise gear. After all that January 6th talk he effectively addressed congress in underwear.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It struck the perfect note because dressing up like a Generalissimo in a dress uniform with a chestful of medals would also come off badly in the modern context. You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn’t like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect. Militarish without being actually military.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    There's nobody who prefers Zelensky, those are zombies who would be okay with Putin.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Dube
    @Jack D

    Wisely he decided against a head bandage.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn’t like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect.
     
    His target audience? You mean Raytheon and Lockheed Martin?
  69. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    Whatever you think of Zelensky, he is a courageous guy because in the long run he's a dead man. Putin will have him killed sooner or later.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    We’ll see who lasts longer. There are plenty of people in Russia (including some very close to him) who would prefer to have Putin dead right about now.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate. What makes you think that Putin's replacement will be a docile Washington puppet?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

  70. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    It struck the perfect note because dressing up like a Generalissimo in a dress uniform with a chestful of medals would also come off badly in the modern context. You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn't like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect. Militarish without being actually military.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    There’s nobody who prefers Zelensky, those are zombies who would be okay with Putin.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    For certain values of nobody:

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/12/22/multimedia/22ukraine-react1-1-409f/22ukraine-react1-1-409f-jumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Bardon Kaldian

  71. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    Whatever you think of Zelensky, he is a courageous guy because in the long run he's a dead man. Putin will have him killed sooner or later.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    In the long run, we’re all dead. Here and now, he’s 25 years younger than VP and is not suffering from an essential tremor.

    VPs capacity to make things happen has in the last 10 months been revealed to be vastly overrated.

  72. It’s not just the nursery rhyme

    They came up over a steep hill and down a zigzag track to Sticklehaven–a mere cluster of cottages with a fishing boat or two drawn up on the beach.
    Illuminated by the setting sun, they had their first glimpse of Nigger Island jutting up out of the sea to the south.
    Vera said, surprised :
    “It’s a long way out.”
    She had pictured it differently, close to shore, crowned with a beautiful white house. But there was no house visable, only the boldly silhouetted rock with its faint resemblance to a giant negro’s head. There was something sinister about it. She shivered faintly.

    Apparently based on Burgh Island off Devon.

  73. @Bill Jones
    How about this for a sense of entitlement.

    A newly-revealed alleged 37-page staffer guide for Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-AZ) has raised concerns among ethics experts that she might be crossing the line in terms of the tasks that she allegedly demands of her staff.

    The memo, obtained by The Daily Beast, is effectively a long list of dos and don’ts for staffers to follow to meet all of Sinema’s demands.

    The memo instructs staff to contact Sinema at the start of every week to “ask if she needs groceries” and to respond to the proper staff notifying them that the tasks have been completed. The staff are reimbursed through CashApp.
     

    And naturally there's more:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/alleged-37-page-staffer-guide-for-kyrsten-sinema-it-is-your-job-to-make-her-as-comfortable-as-possible

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Known Fact

    True or not you’re only seeing now because she’s symbolically snubbed the Democrats

  74. @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Gigantic story if true, yet only on two "fake news" looking sites, plus the "Vancouver Times" says they actually talked to Musk himself for the story, which sounds wildly wrong.
    South Asians do think that child molestation is normal, but then they also think that slavery is normal, so in their hell-societies the one generally takes care of the other. You don't need a hard drive when you can just buy an actual child.
    It is true and massively under-reported or censored that Twitter (likewise YouTube) were a new Tijuana or Bangkok of tolerated pædo activity, however, no one has shown that top leadership were in on it. There is huge overlap of antifa types and pædos, so there is a likely pædo presence in a place being administered by antifa types; the way twitter works, there has to have been rank and file infiltration (some of the people Musk fired). But yeah I would expect to see sources apart from the same regime propaganda trash that censored Hunter's China bribery. NY Post and UK Daily Mail at a minimum.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Video allegedly showing the cash sale of children in India:

    https://vidmax.com/video/216776-video-of-children-being-sold-in-india

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  75. @Twinkie

    There are a ridiculous number of blacks in the cast
     
    Hard pass.

    I don’t mind seeing blacks in movies where appropriate (e.g. Glory or Denzel Washington in just about everything), but the rampant overuse of blacks in film (or adverts) for the sake of ideology is a complete turnoff to me.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Truth

    Even the Daily Jumble puzzle on the comics page has reached a bizarre point where half the characters are shaded in to indicate they’re black. If Peanuts was still being drawn today Linus and Lucy would be black and Schroeder would be gay

  76. @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    We'll see who lasts longer. There are plenty of people in Russia (including some very close to him) who would prefer to have Putin dead right about now.

    Replies: @BB753

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate. What makes you think that Putin’s replacement will be a docile Washington puppet?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    I didn't say he would be. After the death of Stalin his successors were not Washington puppets but neither were they Stalin.

    , @Art Deco
    @BB753

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate.

    What, you mean it's a 'moderate' viewpoint in Russia to (a) invade a neighboring country in an attempt to conquer it offering (b) a mess of excuses about non-existent Nazis and (c) harboring the notion country has no legitimate existence because there is no such nation, pace what the people who actually live there say while (d) demanding a rival military alliance expel 10 members which have joined over the previous 25 years?

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

  77. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    There's nobody who prefers Zelensky, those are zombies who would be okay with Putin.

    Replies: @Jack D

    For certain values of nobody:

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    A big bunch of nobodies.

    Jack, you set me up for that one.

    Russsia is wrong; however, Zelensky is no Churchill and we need to be careful not to get into WW3.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    There are a few categories of Americans who are either for Putin, or, at least, not for Ukraine.

    What unites them is a lack of historical consciousness & sense of justice.

    Replies: @Jack D, @RadicalCenter

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill Jones

    This is made up, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910, @Bill Jones

    Yeah, but it made you look.

    I was gonna keep it til April first but who knows if we’ll get there?

  79. @Elli
    Kenneth Branagh's 2022 Death on the Nile is cast blind to race and ethnicity, although set in the 1920s-30s, when upper class British society most certainly had a color bar. Fine, it's a modern ensemble piece, forget color.

    Except...there is a backstory about the black American characters being mistreated because of their color. Never forget color.

    Replies: @Director95, @SFG, @Mr. Anon, @Bill Jones, @Rouetheday

    Branagh’s “Murder on the Orient Express” was even more obnoxious in this regard. When Poirot finds out Daisy Ridley’s character is having a romance with Leslie Odom’s character he asked her why she felt compelled to hide the relationship. He reminded her, “It’s not as if we’re in the American South”. Yeah, because it’s not like anyone outside the White trash living in the American South ever had qualms about interracial relationships… in the 1920’s.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Rouetheday

    A good illustration though because it reminds us that the issue isn't racism, the issue is dishonest and murderous hatred of America. Racism is perfectly acceptable in Israel, China, or Morocco. The American idea must be stamped out, defamed, and forgotten.

  80. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    If you want to write Zelensky a personal check then by all means go ahead. The fact that you feel that every US taxpayer should be forced at gunpoint to give money to Ukraine or any other foreign nation is exactly why you’re the irredeemable piece of garbage that you are.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    That's not how representative government works and if you don't know that you're an idiot.

    , @Art Deco
    @Mike Tre

    Every sort of public expenditure is contrary to someone's preferences.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Hibernian

  81. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    It struck the perfect note because dressing up like a Generalissimo in a dress uniform with a chestful of medals would also come off badly in the modern context. You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn't like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect. Militarish without being actually military.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    Wisely he decided against a head bandage.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  82. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

  83. @Brutusale
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    They had me at Bale and Duvall.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “They had me at Bale and Duvall.”

    OMG. Two of the greatest film actors ever.

    I guess they have me now, too.

    Thanks.

  84. @Bardon Kaldian
    Well - I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest - sorry, not interested.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Truth

    Well – I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest – sorry, not interested.

    Here is Bardon on an airplane:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Great reference.

  85. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    For certain values of nobody:

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/12/22/multimedia/22ukraine-react1-1-409f/22ukraine-react1-1-409f-jumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Bardon Kaldian

    A big bunch of nobodies.

    Jack, you set me up for that one.

    Russsia is wrong; however, Zelensky is no Churchill and we need to be careful not to get into WW3.

  86. @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    1. He didn't "demand" anything. He pleaded.

    2. The fact that his outfit pissed you off shows that it is working. As an actor, Zelensky knows that a leader is playing a character on TV and right now he is playing the character of the leader of a beleaguered wartime country. If he had worn a Savile Row suit you would have complained that he was using American taxpayer money to buy fancy clothes. He wasn't gonna win with you whatever he wore.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    https://preview.redd.it/wg6xpd0uua381.jpg?width=962&auto=webp&s=c28b4c9e2f68e18a1b67b2092e2b21f796dd165a

    American Presidents have a custom of never wearing military uniforms even though they are the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. In other countries, it's different.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    1. He didn’t “demand” anything. He pleaded.

    Pleading that insistant amounts to a demand.

    Here are another couple of wartime leaders who came to see the POTUS in uniform:

    Yeah, and both of them did anything in their power to drag us into their war too.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  87. @Inquiring Mind
    A real-life murder mystery in Minneapolis:

    https://www.channel3000.com/i/police-mall-of-america-on-lockdown-after-reported-shooting/


    Police Chief Booker Hodges said the victim was a 19-year-old man.

    A bystander’s jacket was also grazed . . .

    There appeared to be some type of altercation between two groups . . .

    at one point, someone pulled out a gun and shot the victim multiple times

     

    The shoppers in MoM ran, real good, but not even the bystander whose expensive jacket got torn knows who dunnit. Quick, get Agatha Christie to this crime scene because Chief Hodges is absolutely stumped by this crime.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Nicholas Stix, @Reg Cæsar

    Nordstroms? Nerdstroms?

    As Joe Biden would say, you ain’t black.

  88. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    It struck the perfect note because dressing up like a Generalissimo in a dress uniform with a chestful of medals would also come off badly in the modern context. You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn't like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect. Militarish without being actually military.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dube, @Mr. Anon

    You may not like Zelensky (and therefore wouldn’t like him no matter what he wore) but to his target audience it is pitch perfect.

    His target audience? You mean Raytheon and Lockheed Martin?

    • LOL: Hibernian
  89. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    For certain values of nobody:

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/12/22/multimedia/22ukraine-react1-1-409f/22ukraine-react1-1-409f-jumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Bardon Kaldian

    There are a few categories of Americans who are either for Putin, or, at least, not for Ukraine.

    What unites them is a lack of historical consciousness & sense of justice.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    As I said before, no one thinks of themselves as being a Nazi, not even Nazis. In their heads, they are filled with historical consciousness and a sense of justice. It's just that they are wrong.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There are a few categories of people who pretend to be Americans (or to care about us) and then write off whole categories of actual Americans.

    What unites them is their indecency and dishonesty, and a willingness to slur rather than provide evidence and argument.

    What sometimes unites such people even more tightly is a tribal racial ("religious") identity that leads them to lie, exaggerate and slander for the benefit of their racial group with no shame at all.

    After a certain young age, most normal decent people (ie not you and jackstein) realize that people can strongly disagree with us, without necessarily being dishonest or evil.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  90. @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Well – I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest – sorry, not interested.
     
    Here is Bardon on an airplane:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsb9B1163k

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Great reference.

  91. @Twinkie

    There are a ridiculous number of blacks in the cast
     
    Hard pass.

    I don’t mind seeing blacks in movies where appropriate (e.g. Glory or Denzel Washington in just about everything), but the rampant overuse of blacks in film (or adverts) for the sake of ideology is a complete turnoff to me.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Truth

    It’s a rule so if you want to watch anything new, get used to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/sep/09/oscars-diversity-rules-hollywood

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Truth

    Well, yeah, as long as survival isn't a concern.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/12/25/hollywood-lost-more-than-500-billion-in-market-value-in-2022/

    You'd better hit the theater, as it's up to you to do the job that wipipo don't want to do.

    Netflix isn't fat and happy anymore.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/netflix-customers-could-face-criminal-charges-sharing-their-password

    Replies: @Truth

  92. @Bardon Kaldian
    Well - I like you people who still watch movies.

    I grew tired of them.

    When I think of it:

    1. when I was around 8, I ceased to be thrilled with circus
    2. when I was 14-16, I was bored with comics
    3. when 25, I found sci fi novels not interesting anymore
    4. when 35-37, I ceased do read novels (great ones, Flaubert, Conrad etc:) & watch movies. Also, even the best TV series.

    In the audio-visual world I find only some science or short YT videos, 10-20 minutes, watchable. The rest - sorry, not interested.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon, @Truth

    Smartest post you’ve made on this site.

  93. @BB753
    @Jack D

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate. What makes you think that Putin's replacement will be a docile Washington puppet?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    I didn’t say he would be. After the death of Stalin his successors were not Washington puppets but neither were they Stalin.

  94. @Mike Tre
    @Jack D

    If you want to write Zelensky a personal check then by all means go ahead. The fact that you feel that every US taxpayer should be forced at gunpoint to give money to Ukraine or any other foreign nation is exactly why you're the irredeemable piece of garbage that you are.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    That’s not how representative government works and if you don’t know that you’re an idiot.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  95. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    But in a biopic film, it’s best to go for a semblance of historical accuracy. Christie’s husband was white.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

    Sure, but Christie was a dude.

  96. @Rouetheday
    @Elli

    Branagh's "Murder on the Orient Express" was even more obnoxious in this regard. When Poirot finds out Daisy Ridley's character is having a romance with Leslie Odom's character he asked her why she felt compelled to hide the relationship. He reminded her, "It's not as if we're in the American South". Yeah, because it's not like anyone outside the White trash living in the American South ever had qualms about interracial relationships... in the 1920's.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    A good illustration though because it reminds us that the issue isn’t racism, the issue is dishonest and murderous hatred of America. Racism is perfectly acceptable in Israel, China, or Morocco. The American idea must be stamped out, defamed, and forgotten.

  97. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    There are a few categories of Americans who are either for Putin, or, at least, not for Ukraine.

    What unites them is a lack of historical consciousness & sense of justice.

    Replies: @Jack D, @RadicalCenter

    As I said before, no one thinks of themselves as being a Nazi, not even Nazis. In their heads, they are filled with historical consciousness and a sense of justice. It’s just that they are wrong.

  98. @BB753
    @Jack D

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate. What makes you think that Putin's replacement will be a docile Washington puppet?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate.

    What, you mean it’s a ‘moderate’ viewpoint in Russia to (a) invade a neighboring country in an attempt to conquer it offering (b) a mess of excuses about non-existent Nazis and (c) harboring the notion country has no legitimate existence because there is no such nation, pace what the people who actually live there say while (d) demanding a rival military alliance expel 10 members which have joined over the previous 25 years?

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    , @BB753
    @Art Deco

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now. Instead of waiting to negotiate after invading the Donbass in support of the militias and pressuring Kiev, Russia could have started attacking Ukrainian infrastructures in February instead of waiting till September. By now, there would be no Ukrainian army.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D

  99. @Mike Tre
    @Jack D

    If you want to write Zelensky a personal check then by all means go ahead. The fact that you feel that every US taxpayer should be forced at gunpoint to give money to Ukraine or any other foreign nation is exactly why you're the irredeemable piece of garbage that you are.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Art Deco

    Every sort of public expenditure is contrary to someone’s preferences.

    • Thanks: Jack D
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Art Deco

    Nobody has in mind to send 100’s of billions of tax dollars to other countries when they cast a vote, you silly little troll.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Brutusale

    , @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Often rightly so.

  100. @Art Deco
    @BB753

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate.

    What, you mean it's a 'moderate' viewpoint in Russia to (a) invade a neighboring country in an attempt to conquer it offering (b) a mess of excuses about non-existent Nazis and (c) harboring the notion country has no legitimate existence because there is no such nation, pace what the people who actually live there say while (d) demanding a rival military alliance expel 10 members which have joined over the previous 25 years?

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right (“Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too – I don’t know why they are holding back.”) so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion – 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin’s most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin’s.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian “democrats” such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn’t be that big. Now the experience of the ‘stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes – you can’t let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller – maybe its borders circa 1600.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Jack D

    "It seems like so far" the US hasn't figured out how to democratically or justly rule an area with five time zones. Maybe it needs to be broken up into more manageable pieces.

    The US also hasn't figured out how NOT to murder, paralyze, terrorize, and displace millions of civilians 5,000-miles-plus from its borders with the resources it derives from having so much territory, so many people, and so much revenue. Time to break it up for the sake of the lives, health, safety, and sovereignty of the rest of the peoples of the world.

    Fixed it for you.

    Merry Christmas -- or should I say a belated Chappy Channukah -- and good luck to Russia.

    , @BB753
    @Jack D

    Why do you see Russia as a threat? Don't you realize that the US and NATO pose a greater threat to world peace than Russia and China combined? Who has started more wars than America since WWII? Live and let live. You neocons are gonna destroy America and part of the world because of your petty understanding of world diplomacy.

    , @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    What if somebody proposes that we the US go back to the Proclamation Line of 1763? That the UK be reduced to England only? Italy and Germanny broken up? Israel back to pre-1967 borders? Is Russia really a uniquely evil nation? Also I doubt that all of the democratically inclined Russian people have emigrated, or anywhere near all. They've likely just gone underground, as in the Communist era.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Huh?

    The Ukraine War is a project of the country's political elite. The bulk of the Russian public will assent for a time because they trust Putin. Up until 24 February 2022, he'd earned a degree of deference by being consistently in the black on his calls. As the butcher's bill adds up, there will be more public disaffection and grumbling.

    Russia since 2004 has not been some totaliarian hell hole. Dmitri Simes referred to it as 'managed pluralism'.

    Our single best guess is that the share of the Russian public willing to give their assent to the Party of Incumbents bounces around 55% of the total. The remainder of the public is divided about equally between Soviet nostalgiacs, Russian nationalists, and the occidental spectrum. The Russian nationalists have been split between the Zhirinovsky fan club and the non-personalist Rodina outfit. The occidental spectrum is split between a vaguely social-democratic and collaborationist set and a social-liberal non-collaborationist set. The Ukraine war is an extension of Russian nationalist thinking and the first step in re-assembling the old East Bloc in some measure (Putin's preferred goal and that of some portion of the Soviet nostalgiacs).

    Here's a hypothesis: this thing costs too much, the public at the bottom and the careerists at the top will adjust their expectations and goals.


    As for Russia's problems with constitutional government, I wouldn't blame the areal extent of the country. (In any case, 2/3 of the territory is nearly empty. Fully 96% of the population occupies 2 million square miles of territory; the continental United States amounts to 3 million sq miles). I'd blame the events of 1989-99. The catastrophic flailing about of Boris Yeltin's administration discredited parliamentary government in Russia. The economic performance of Russia, the Ukraine, and White Russia has been inversely associated with their degree of political competition and open public discussion. That was not the case farther west. Eventually, rule by autocrats (Lukashenko) and machine bosses (Putin) may lose its lustre. Not yet.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    I wouldn't take his feelz too seriously. The Soviet Union fell apart like a cheap tent. Four months and it was gone. No such thing happened in the old RSFSR. There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus and in the Urals. (Chechenya accounts for < 1% of the country's population and < 0.5% of its production. Tatarstan accounts for about 3.5% of the population and productive base). The notion that the country is suffused with crypto-Turks is not based on their observable political behavior.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D

  101. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    “It seems like so far” the US hasn’t figured out how to democratically or justly rule an area with five time zones. Maybe it needs to be broken up into more manageable pieces.

    The US also hasn’t figured out how NOT to murder, paralyze, terrorize, and displace millions of civilians 5,000-miles-plus from its borders with the resources it derives from having so much territory, so many people, and so much revenue. Time to break it up for the sake of the lives, health, safety, and sovereignty of the rest of the peoples of the world.

    Fixed it for you.

    Merry Christmas — or should I say a belated Chappy Channukah — and good luck to Russia.

  102. @Art Deco
    @Mike Tre

    Every sort of public expenditure is contrary to someone's preferences.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Hibernian

    Nobody has in mind to send 100’s of billions of tax dollars to other countries when they cast a vote, you silly little troll.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Mike Tre

    Very few people have anything but the vaguest idea of how federal funds are distributed between different functions.

    , @Brutusale
    @Mike Tre

    I gotta disagree, Mike. A major selling point for a Trump vote was his lack of interest in getting into wars. The M-I-C couldn't let someone like THAT get elected again, could they?

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  103. @Art Deco
    @BB753

    By Russian standards, Putin is a moderate.

    What, you mean it's a 'moderate' viewpoint in Russia to (a) invade a neighboring country in an attempt to conquer it offering (b) a mess of excuses about non-existent Nazis and (c) harboring the notion country has no legitimate existence because there is no such nation, pace what the people who actually live there say while (d) demanding a rival military alliance expel 10 members which have joined over the previous 25 years?

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now. Instead of waiting to negotiate after invading the Donbass in support of the militias and pressuring Kiev, Russia could have started attacking Ukrainian infrastructures in February instead of waiting till September. By now, there would be no Ukrainian army.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @BB753

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now.

    Chuckles.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Jack D
    @BB753

    What a shame that "the moderate" Putin was in charge of Russia instead of a master hard ass (armchair) strategist like you. Forget about Kyiv, Russia would be in Berlin by now.

    I suppose by very low (Hitlerian) standards, Putin is "a moderate" but what he really is is not insane. He has (not very successfully) been trying to walk a fine line between achieving his goals in Ukraine (being the annexation of parts of Ukraine and turning the remainder into a Russian puppet state like Belarus) and not starting WWIII. When his Plan A failed by early April, there was no real Plan B because they were 100% sure that Plan A would succeed. All there has been since then is a series of unsuccessful improvisations, the latest of which is the targeting of civilian infrastructure.

    Doubling down on war crimes earlier wouldn't have been any more successful than his other strategies. Destroying civilian infrastructure would have done nothing to create a situation where there was "no Ukrainian Army" - the Ukrainian Army does not bivouac inside of power plants and transformer stations. The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army. Putin is not that deluded.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @BB753, @RadicalCenter

  104. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    Why do you see Russia as a threat? Don’t you realize that the US and NATO pose a greater threat to world peace than Russia and China combined? Who has started more wars than America since WWII? Live and let live. You neocons are gonna destroy America and part of the world because of your petty understanding of world diplomacy.

  105. I wish comments on articles that aren’t about the Ukraine, Putin etc wouldn’t become clogged up with OT posts on the subject.

    • Agree: Dube, Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Dube
    @Joe S.Walker

    Yet while we are at it I might as well post my memories of the Russian invasion of Crimea. One moment in the predawn hours I was preparing for a day's fishing, when suddenly out of the darkness the Russian fleet appeared, approaching at high speed and firing heavy ordnance. All I had was my pair of pearl-handled .38's and a bandolier of ammo, but I made them pay for every inch they took. I helped cover an orderly Crimean retreat and was the last man across the land bridge from the peninsula. Sadly, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Joe S.Walker

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhy2Gk_xik

  106. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    There are a few categories of Americans who are either for Putin, or, at least, not for Ukraine.

    What unites them is a lack of historical consciousness & sense of justice.

    Replies: @Jack D, @RadicalCenter

    There are a few categories of people who pretend to be Americans (or to care about us) and then write off whole categories of actual Americans.

    What unites them is their indecency and dishonesty, and a willingness to slur rather than provide evidence and argument.

    What sometimes unites such people even more tightly is a tribal racial (“religious”) identity that leads them to lie, exaggerate and slander for the benefit of their racial group with no shame at all.

    After a certain young age, most normal decent people (ie not you and jackstein) realize that people can strongly disagree with us, without necessarily being dishonest or evil.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @RadicalCenter

    I am not saying that pro-Putinists are "evil". Or that American pro-Putinists are different from those from various other, especially European countries.

    Those who tend to be on the Russian side (and, let's be frank, against Ukrainians) can be divided into a few categories:

    1. people who believe that there is some conspiracy of Western elites to create an imagined New World Order of replaceable people, establish some "globohomo" order & are inimical to all organic collectives (family, people, religious tradition,..). Apart from Masons & plutocrats (Bildenberg, The Club of Rome, Davos,..) , many believers in this conspiracy blame elite Jews, especially in the US, either as masterminds or at least vocal loudspeakers/media promoters of such nefarious endeavors.

    This is what I'd call "global conspiracy", because it seems to be bent on destruction of America & Russia, but in some future also China & the rest of the world. These are people who believe that the goal of supposed shadow-masters is to destroy organic collectives & world civilization as it exists, with the result of creating some global government of small elites ruling over billions of dispossessed.

    2. then, some people believe that it is basically American imperialism- with or without Jews- which threatens Russia as the last bastion of "white civilization". That would be the ideology of American plutocratic elites, "enriched" with CRT, trannies etc. depravities. They want to destroy European-derived Christian civilization, while China, India, Latin America, Africa.... are issues that will be resolved later.

    3. also, there are individuals who consider Russia to be aggressor & not right, but are somehow condoning Russia's war because it was, in their view, forced as a preventive war against NATO. Here, it is not about destroying European civilization, but about isolating Russia (and then, perhaps, China) & marginalizing it in the struggle for resources and geopolitical influence (Asia, Middle East,..).  

    4. the last group is what I call "I care for my ass only". War is not convenient, there is inflation, prices go up,... and these people would say: Look, we know that Russians are aggressors & that Russia is an imperialist piece of crap we detest. But, since we value our comfortable lives, we'd rather that Ukrainians surrender because we are afraid of nuclear war and, above all, we want our safe good secure life. We don't want to think about: What next.  

    What all these groups conveniently "forget" is:

    a) Russia signed various treaties & broke these promises (Budapest 1994, but there are more. When someone mentions the Minsk agreement, I retort: Russia broke that, too. But, I always add: USA & other countries which forced Ukraine to sign that immoral piece of garbage should be held accountable, because that treaty was no better than Munich agreement, appeasing the aggressor).

    b) Russia's war is full of evident lies & barbarism: denial of Ukrainian nationality, ethnocide (forced transfer of occupied Ukrainians into Russia, similar to what Soviet Russians had done to the Baltic peoples in the 1940s), culturocide, mass murder & rape, .. They've done such things that most of their European neighbors, all of them who lived under Soviet occupation, would gladly flay Russians alive if they could just put their hands on them. That is the dominant atmosphere among peoples that lived under Soviet rule.

    This is not the position of Italians, French & Germans, whom most of ex-Soviet vassals loathe so much they would literally vomit when they see them. These peoples know what justice is, what freedom is & what servitude is. They have no illusions about the US and traditional West, but they know that, taking into account all ups & downs, they, in the past 30 years, finally breathe freely- and they would never even think of making any compromise with Russian Euro-Asian yoke.

    So, if you shit your pants at the very idea of nuclear war, better rewire your brain & start thinking: if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living. Reasonable people will always try to reduce the danger of nuclear apocalypse, but if you think that others will submit to slavery because of your fears- you are wrong. Dead wrong. Literally.  

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @BB753

  107. @Art Deco
    @Mike Tre

    Every sort of public expenditure is contrary to someone's preferences.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Hibernian

    Often rightly so.

  108. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    What if somebody proposes that we the US go back to the Proclamation Line of 1763? That the UK be reduced to England only? Italy and Germanny broken up? Israel back to pre-1967 borders? Is Russia really a uniquely evil nation? Also I doubt that all of the democratically inclined Russian people have emigrated, or anywhere near all. They’ve likely just gone underground, as in the Communist era.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Hibernian

    No clue what you're free associating about. What the western governments 'propose' is that Russia withdraw from the Ukraine.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  109. @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    What if somebody proposes that we the US go back to the Proclamation Line of 1763? That the UK be reduced to England only? Italy and Germanny broken up? Israel back to pre-1967 borders? Is Russia really a uniquely evil nation? Also I doubt that all of the democratically inclined Russian people have emigrated, or anywhere near all. They've likely just gone underground, as in the Communist era.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    No clue what you’re free associating about. What the western governments ‘propose’ is that Russia withdraw from the Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    I was replying to this:


    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn’t be that big.
     
    and this:

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes – you can’t let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller – maybe its borders circa 1600.
     
  110. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    Huh?

    The Ukraine War is a project of the country’s political elite. The bulk of the Russian public will assent for a time because they trust Putin. Up until 24 February 2022, he’d earned a degree of deference by being consistently in the black on his calls. As the butcher’s bill adds up, there will be more public disaffection and grumbling.

    Russia since 2004 has not been some totaliarian hell hole. Dmitri Simes referred to it as ‘managed pluralism’.

    Our single best guess is that the share of the Russian public willing to give their assent to the Party of Incumbents bounces around 55% of the total. The remainder of the public is divided about equally between Soviet nostalgiacs, Russian nationalists, and the occidental spectrum. The Russian nationalists have been split between the Zhirinovsky fan club and the non-personalist Rodina outfit. The occidental spectrum is split between a vaguely social-democratic and collaborationist set and a social-liberal non-collaborationist set. The Ukraine war is an extension of Russian nationalist thinking and the first step in re-assembling the old East Bloc in some measure (Putin’s preferred goal and that of some portion of the Soviet nostalgiacs).

    Here’s a hypothesis: this thing costs too much, the public at the bottom and the careerists at the top will adjust their expectations and goals.

    As for Russia’s problems with constitutional government, I wouldn’t blame the areal extent of the country. (In any case, 2/3 of the territory is nearly empty. Fully 96% of the population occupies 2 million square miles of territory; the continental United States amounts to 3 million sq miles). I’d blame the events of 1989-99. The catastrophic flailing about of Boris Yeltin’s administration discredited parliamentary government in Russia. The economic performance of Russia, the Ukraine, and White Russia has been inversely associated with their degree of political competition and open public discussion. That was not the case farther west. Eventually, rule by autocrats (Lukashenko) and machine bosses (Putin) may lose its lustre. Not yet.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Eventually, rule by autocrats (Lukashenko) and machine bosses (Putin) may lose its lustre. Not yet.
     
    "Not yet" could be decades from now, but it could also be tomorrow. Look at the Soviet Union or the downfall of the Czar or Yanukovych or Ceaușescu - when the time comes for it to fall apart, it all falls apart much faster than anyone can imagine. One day it looks as if the status quo that has existed for decades or even centuries will endure and a few days later the dictatorship has crumbled like dust.

    Even assuming Putin keeps it all together for the rest of his life, how much longer does he have left? Will the yes-men that he has surrounded himself with be able to keep it together without the Boss? The most ruthless (Prigozhin, Kadyrov) might be able to seize the reins of power but will they be able to hold them?
  111. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    BB is not wrong. Putin has killed or exiled or at least silenced anyone in Russia who was more moderate than he was, while tolerating (to some extent) criticism on the right ("Russia should be nuking Kiev and maybe Washington too - I don't know why they are holding back.") so the public political spectrum STARTS with Putin and only goes further right. And this is not just elite opinion - 20 years of non-stop propaganda has gotten a lot of the Russian public to buy into these views, which are not that far from Soviet views (and historic Russian nationalist views) and so were not a hard sell. And again, a lot of people who would be against these views have voted with their feet and no longer live in Russia.

    And, Putin's most likely successors come from his inner circle such as Patrushev, who have openly expressed views that are even more hard line that Putin's.

    Not only that, but Kamil Galeev (admittedly a Tatar with his own bone to pick) feels that even Russian "democrats" such as Navalny have their own racist Great Russian views and would not be much better. He feels that the only solution is to completely decolonize Russia and break it up into a number of countries on an ethnic basis. He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn't be that big. Now the experience of the 'stans has not been that good either. Most of them reverted to dictatorship also. No doubt Kadyrov would rule as the dictator of Chechnya. But some of the ex-Soviet Republics (and some of the future constituent states) have done OK.

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes - you can't let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller - maybe its borders circa 1600.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @BB753, @Hibernian, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    I wouldn’t take his feelz too seriously. The Soviet Union fell apart like a cheap tent. Four months and it was gone. No such thing happened in the old RSFSR. There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus and in the Urals. (Chechenya accounts for < 1% of the country's population and < 0.5% of its production. Tatarstan accounts for about 3.5% of the population and productive base). The notion that the country is suffused with crypto-Turks is not based on their observable political behavior.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    Normally I would discount someone like Galeev but his crystal ball on the Ukraine War has been, at least up until now, perhaps the very best on the market. Read his February 27 predictions:

    https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497993363076915204

    I think they are nothing short of amazing, given that they were written at a time when all Rushists and most Western analysts were counting the hours before Zelensky was going to "commit suicide" or get on a helicopter bound for Warsaw. Maybe he was just lucky with that prediction but I think it was more than just luck. Galeev has that double perspective of being both an insider and an outsider in Russian society that allows him to see more clearly than either one alone.

    And even assuming that he's wrong about people's ethnic identification, there's no rule that all Russian speakers have to live under one flag - look at South America (or for that matter, North America or Europe). Galeev thinks that it is wrong that the areas where the resources in Russia are located get nothing while people in Moscow, which produces nothing, live like royalty in comparison. If living like royalty means that you have indoor plumbing and can afford a washing machine.

    As for the other commenters in this thread, regarding breaking up Russia, this is Galeev's take, not mine. For those who are asking why I am so eager to see it broken up, I would ask you why you are so eager to see it held together? I don't think the US should use military means to fracture Russia but neither should we have to go out of our way to keep it together, except to the extent it implicates control of their nuclear weapons. For people who are supposedly advocating a position of neutrality for the US, you don't really sound truly neutral or indifferent but almost panicky and teary eyed at the thought of Mother Russia breaking up.

    If any of y'all don't like Galeev's take on breaking up Russia, take it up with him, not me, but prepare to be humiliated because his knowledge in this field is both broad and deep. I don't think that Galeev envisions that the US is going to fracture Russia - he thinks that it is going to shatter from its own centrifugal forces.

    , @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus
     
    BTW, this is a vast understatement, like saying "there was some separatist sentiment in the US South in 1860". Russia fought not 1 but 2 wars to bring the Caucasus back into Russia and had to basically level the place and commit war crimes (as they usually do) in order to win .

    Kadyrov, in typical Muslim fashion, switched sides and swore loyalty to Russia in exchange for being allowed to stay on the throne as the local warlord, but he could switch sides again at the drop of a papakha.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  112. @Art Deco
    @Hibernian

    No clue what you're free associating about. What the western governments 'propose' is that Russia withdraw from the Ukraine.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I was replying to this:

    It seems like so far, no one has figured out how to democratically rule a country that spans 11 time zones so maybe it shouldn’t be that big.

    and this:

    Of course the big fly in the ointment is what to do with all those nukes – you can’t let a guy like Kadyrov have nukes. Just as in the last round, the little breakaway states would have to give up their nukes. There would still be a Muscovy but it would be much smaller – maybe its borders circa 1600.

  113. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    I wouldn't take his feelz too seriously. The Soviet Union fell apart like a cheap tent. Four months and it was gone. No such thing happened in the old RSFSR. There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus and in the Urals. (Chechenya accounts for < 1% of the country's population and < 0.5% of its production. Tatarstan accounts for about 3.5% of the population and productive base). The notion that the country is suffused with crypto-Turks is not based on their observable political behavior.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D

    Normally I would discount someone like Galeev but his crystal ball on the Ukraine War has been, at least up until now, perhaps the very best on the market. Read his February 27 predictions:

    I think they are nothing short of amazing, given that they were written at a time when all Rushists and most Western analysts were counting the hours before Zelensky was going to “commit suicide” or get on a helicopter bound for Warsaw. Maybe he was just lucky with that prediction but I think it was more than just luck. Galeev has that double perspective of being both an insider and an outsider in Russian society that allows him to see more clearly than either one alone.

    And even assuming that he’s wrong about people’s ethnic identification, there’s no rule that all Russian speakers have to live under one flag – look at South America (or for that matter, North America or Europe). Galeev thinks that it is wrong that the areas where the resources in Russia are located get nothing while people in Moscow, which produces nothing, live like royalty in comparison. If living like royalty means that you have indoor plumbing and can afford a washing machine.

    As for the other commenters in this thread, regarding breaking up Russia, this is Galeev’s take, not mine. For those who are asking why I am so eager to see it broken up, I would ask you why you are so eager to see it held together? I don’t think the US should use military means to fracture Russia but neither should we have to go out of our way to keep it together, except to the extent it implicates control of their nuclear weapons. For people who are supposedly advocating a position of neutrality for the US, you don’t really sound truly neutral or indifferent but almost panicky and teary eyed at the thought of Mother Russia breaking up.

    If any of y’all don’t like Galeev’s take on breaking up Russia, take it up with him, not me, but prepare to be humiliated because his knowledge in this field is both broad and deep. I don’t think that Galeev envisions that the US is going to fracture Russia – he thinks that it is going to shatter from its own centrifugal forces.

  114. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Huh?

    The Ukraine War is a project of the country's political elite. The bulk of the Russian public will assent for a time because they trust Putin. Up until 24 February 2022, he'd earned a degree of deference by being consistently in the black on his calls. As the butcher's bill adds up, there will be more public disaffection and grumbling.

    Russia since 2004 has not been some totaliarian hell hole. Dmitri Simes referred to it as 'managed pluralism'.

    Our single best guess is that the share of the Russian public willing to give their assent to the Party of Incumbents bounces around 55% of the total. The remainder of the public is divided about equally between Soviet nostalgiacs, Russian nationalists, and the occidental spectrum. The Russian nationalists have been split between the Zhirinovsky fan club and the non-personalist Rodina outfit. The occidental spectrum is split between a vaguely social-democratic and collaborationist set and a social-liberal non-collaborationist set. The Ukraine war is an extension of Russian nationalist thinking and the first step in re-assembling the old East Bloc in some measure (Putin's preferred goal and that of some portion of the Soviet nostalgiacs).

    Here's a hypothesis: this thing costs too much, the public at the bottom and the careerists at the top will adjust their expectations and goals.


    As for Russia's problems with constitutional government, I wouldn't blame the areal extent of the country. (In any case, 2/3 of the territory is nearly empty. Fully 96% of the population occupies 2 million square miles of territory; the continental United States amounts to 3 million sq miles). I'd blame the events of 1989-99. The catastrophic flailing about of Boris Yeltin's administration discredited parliamentary government in Russia. The economic performance of Russia, the Ukraine, and White Russia has been inversely associated with their degree of political competition and open public discussion. That was not the case farther west. Eventually, rule by autocrats (Lukashenko) and machine bosses (Putin) may lose its lustre. Not yet.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Eventually, rule by autocrats (Lukashenko) and machine bosses (Putin) may lose its lustre. Not yet.

    “Not yet” could be decades from now, but it could also be tomorrow. Look at the Soviet Union or the downfall of the Czar or Yanukovych or Ceaușescu – when the time comes for it to fall apart, it all falls apart much faster than anyone can imagine. One day it looks as if the status quo that has existed for decades or even centuries will endure and a few days later the dictatorship has crumbled like dust.

    Even assuming Putin keeps it all together for the rest of his life, how much longer does he have left? Will the yes-men that he has surrounded himself with be able to keep it together without the Boss? The most ruthless (Prigozhin, Kadyrov) might be able to seize the reins of power but will they be able to hold them?

  115. @Joe S.Walker
    I wish comments on articles that aren't about the Ukraine, Putin etc wouldn't become clogged up with OT posts on the subject.

    Replies: @Dube, @Jim Don Bob

    Yet while we are at it I might as well post my memories of the Russian invasion of Crimea. One moment in the predawn hours I was preparing for a day’s fishing, when suddenly out of the darkness the Russian fleet appeared, approaching at high speed and firing heavy ordnance. All I had was my pair of pearl-handled .38’s and a bandolier of ammo, but I made them pay for every inch they took. I helped cover an orderly Crimean retreat and was the last man across the land bridge from the peninsula. Sadly, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead.

  116. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    He also feels that the Russian position that the country as a whole is 80+% Great Russian is based on phony #s and that a lot of that 80% are really ethnics who have taken Russian identity because that was the thing to do. If the $ was in being non-Russian, they would revert back to their other identities.

    I wouldn't take his feelz too seriously. The Soviet Union fell apart like a cheap tent. Four months and it was gone. No such thing happened in the old RSFSR. There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus and in the Urals. (Chechenya accounts for < 1% of the country's population and < 0.5% of its production. Tatarstan accounts for about 3.5% of the population and productive base). The notion that the country is suffused with crypto-Turks is not based on their observable political behavior.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D

    There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus

    BTW, this is a vast understatement, like saying “there was some separatist sentiment in the US South in 1860”. Russia fought not 1 but 2 wars to bring the Caucasus back into Russia and had to basically level the place and commit war crimes (as they usually do) in order to win .

    Kadyrov, in typical Muslim fashion, switched sides and swore loyalty to Russia in exchange for being allowed to stay on the throne as the local warlord, but he could switch sides again at the drop of a papakha.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    If you read what I wrote, you know what share of Russia's population and output are found in Chechenya

    Replies: @Jack D

  117. @Mike Tre
    @Art Deco

    Nobody has in mind to send 100’s of billions of tax dollars to other countries when they cast a vote, you silly little troll.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Brutusale

    Very few people have anything but the vaguest idea of how federal funds are distributed between different functions.

  118. @BB753
    @Art Deco

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now. Instead of waiting to negotiate after invading the Donbass in support of the militias and pressuring Kiev, Russia could have started attacking Ukrainian infrastructures in February instead of waiting till September. By now, there would be no Ukrainian army.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now.

    Chuckles.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Art Deco

    Of course, according to CNN's news, Zelensky is about to take Moscow. In reality, the top Ukrainian general all but concedes defeat.
    https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

    Replies: @Jack D

  119. The who-dunnit is a pretty bleak genre but I liked the first hour of See How They Run. I didn’t find Rockwell uncharismatic as a drunk, apathetic detective and, as you mention, Saorse (? not looking) was delightful.

    I was going to mention Glass Onion which currently sits at 93 critic and audience score on RT. It’s over 2.5 hours of trash script, bad acting, current year moralizing and then a bad CGI finish. Daniel Craig’s character was interesting in Knives Out but this movie follows the Disney formula to make the lead take a backseat to the strong, black female genius.

    I also found Banshees of Inisherin tiresome (currently 98 on RT). This was not a good year for movies with wunderkind Damien Chazzelle (what is with these names?) movie Babylon getting trashed by everyone. At over 3 hours, I don’t have it in me but I liked Whiplash and First Man. La La Land was neat too but I guess they gave the kid too much rope for this one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @alaska3636

    And David O. Russell's "Amsterdam" is lousy too.

    2019 was a year with a lot of movies better than you'd expect, while 2022 has basically the Top Gun movie being better than you'd expect and most everything else being about as good as hoped (Avatar) or worse.

    Replies: @alaska3636

  120. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    There was some separatist sentiment in the Caucasus
     
    BTW, this is a vast understatement, like saying "there was some separatist sentiment in the US South in 1860". Russia fought not 1 but 2 wars to bring the Caucasus back into Russia and had to basically level the place and commit war crimes (as they usually do) in order to win .

    Kadyrov, in typical Muslim fashion, switched sides and swore loyalty to Russia in exchange for being allowed to stay on the throne as the local warlord, but he could switch sides again at the drop of a papakha.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    If you read what I wrote, you know what share of Russia’s population and output are found in Chechenya

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    If Chechnya was so insignificant, why did Russia fight so hard for it? What % of US foreign trade did Vietnam represent? Some things can't be understood by reference to an almanac.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  121. @Joe S.Walker
    I wish comments on articles that aren't about the Ukraine, Putin etc wouldn't become clogged up with OT posts on the subject.

    Replies: @Dube, @Jim Don Bob

  122. @BB753
    @Art Deco

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now. Instead of waiting to negotiate after invading the Donbass in support of the militias and pressuring Kiev, Russia could have started attacking Ukrainian infrastructures in February instead of waiting till September. By now, there would be no Ukrainian army.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D

    What a shame that “the moderate” Putin was in charge of Russia instead of a master hard ass (armchair) strategist like you. Forget about Kyiv, Russia would be in Berlin by now.

    I suppose by very low (Hitlerian) standards, Putin is “a moderate” but what he really is is not insane. He has (not very successfully) been trying to walk a fine line between achieving his goals in Ukraine (being the annexation of parts of Ukraine and turning the remainder into a Russian puppet state like Belarus) and not starting WWIII. When his Plan A failed by early April, there was no real Plan B because they were 100% sure that Plan A would succeed. All there has been since then is a series of unsuccessful improvisations, the latest of which is the targeting of civilian infrastructure.

    Doubling down on war crimes earlier wouldn’t have been any more successful than his other strategies. Destroying civilian infrastructure would have done nothing to create a situation where there was “no Ukrainian Army” – the Ukrainian Army does not bivouac inside of power plants and transformer stations. The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army. Putin is not that deluded.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army.
     
    This isn't about demoralization. It's about supply interdiction. Uncle Sam launched unrestricted submarine warfare and the mining of Japanese waters in WWII to starve the Japanese population and military alike. I'm as supportive of Ukraine as anyone else, but to classify this as "war crimes" is to define war crimes down. If the Holocaust and the Holodomor were war crimes, then they were felonies. These are misdemeanors by comparison, the equivalent of simple assault.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @BB753
    @Jack D

    Plan A was to take Dombas and force Ukraine and the West to negotiate. Plan B is to totally destroy the Ukrainian and NATO military in the area, and to seize all of Ukraine East of the Dnieper. Plan B is the consequence of the West forbidding Zelensky to negotiate and forcing Ukraine to fight till the bitter end.
    As for destroying the infrastructure, it's a basic military tactic when you want to invade a territory and you want to nullify the enemy military. BTW, it's similar to the American doctrine of warfare of Shock and Awe without the psy-ops component aimed explicitly at the civil population as well.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jack D

    The US DOD War Manual expressly states that destruction of power infrastructure can be a legitimate military objective and activity. Do you disagree with the US Department of Defense?

    And when will we start the human-rights/war-crime prosecutions for the military and political rulers of the US for their intentional widespread destruction of power plants, water treatment plants, and hospitals serving civilians in countries 5,000-plus miles from our borders?

    Crickets, eh Jackie?

    Replies: @Jack D

  123. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    If you read what I wrote, you know what share of Russia's population and output are found in Chechenya

    Replies: @Jack D

    If Chechnya was so insignificant, why did Russia fight so hard for it? What % of US foreign trade did Vietnam represent? Some things can’t be understood by reference to an almanac.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Your contention has been that Russia should come apart at the seems and that it is filled with crypto-turks. The only part of the country that put up armed resistance to the central government was a dirt poor segment where < 1% of the population lives. Understanding the implications of that for your thesis is not that difficult.

    Replies: @Jack D

  124. @RadicalCenter
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There are a few categories of people who pretend to be Americans (or to care about us) and then write off whole categories of actual Americans.

    What unites them is their indecency and dishonesty, and a willingness to slur rather than provide evidence and argument.

    What sometimes unites such people even more tightly is a tribal racial ("religious") identity that leads them to lie, exaggerate and slander for the benefit of their racial group with no shame at all.

    After a certain young age, most normal decent people (ie not you and jackstein) realize that people can strongly disagree with us, without necessarily being dishonest or evil.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    I am not saying that pro-Putinists are “evil”. Or that American pro-Putinists are different from those from various other, especially European countries.

    Those who tend to be on the Russian side (and, let’s be frank, against Ukrainians) can be divided into a few categories:

    1. people who believe that there is some conspiracy of Western elites to create an imagined New World Order of replaceable people, establish some “globohomo” order & are inimical to all organic collectives (family, people, religious tradition,..). Apart from Masons & plutocrats (Bildenberg, The Club of Rome, Davos,..) , many believers in this conspiracy blame elite Jews, especially in the US, either as masterminds or at least vocal loudspeakers/media promoters of such nefarious endeavors.

    This is what I’d call “global conspiracy”, because it seems to be bent on destruction of America & Russia, but in some future also China & the rest of the world. These are people who believe that the goal of supposed shadow-masters is to destroy organic collectives & world civilization as it exists, with the result of creating some global government of small elites ruling over billions of dispossessed.

    2. then, some people believe that it is basically American imperialism- with or without Jews- which threatens Russia as the last bastion of “white civilization”. That would be the ideology of American plutocratic elites, “enriched” with CRT, trannies etc. depravities. They want to destroy European-derived Christian civilization, while China, India, Latin America, Africa…. are issues that will be resolved later.

    3. also, there are individuals who consider Russia to be aggressor & not right, but are somehow condoning Russia’s war because it was, in their view, forced as a preventive war against NATO. Here, it is not about destroying European civilization, but about isolating Russia (and then, perhaps, China) & marginalizing it in the struggle for resources and geopolitical influence (Asia, Middle East,..).  

    4. the last group is what I call “I care for my ass only”. War is not convenient, there is inflation, prices go up,… and these people would say: Look, we know that Russians are aggressors & that Russia is an imperialist piece of crap we detest. But, since we value our comfortable lives, we’d rather that Ukrainians surrender because we are afraid of nuclear war and, above all, we want our safe good secure life. We don’t want to think about: What next.  

    What all these groups conveniently “forget” is:

    a) Russia signed various treaties & broke these promises (Budapest 1994, but there are more. When someone mentions the Minsk agreement, I retort: Russia broke that, too. But, I always add: USA & other countries which forced Ukraine to sign that immoral piece of garbage should be held accountable, because that treaty was no better than Munich agreement, appeasing the aggressor).

    b) Russia’s war is full of evident lies & barbarism: denial of Ukrainian nationality, ethnocide (forced transfer of occupied Ukrainians into Russia, similar to what Soviet Russians had done to the Baltic peoples in the 1940s), culturocide, mass murder & rape, .. They’ve done such things that most of their European neighbors, all of them who lived under Soviet occupation, would gladly flay Russians alive if they could just put their hands on them. That is the dominant atmosphere among peoples that lived under Soviet rule.

    This is not the position of Italians, French & Germans, whom most of ex-Soviet vassals loathe so much they would literally vomit when they see them. These peoples know what justice is, what freedom is & what servitude is. They have no illusions about the US and traditional West, but they know that, taking into account all ups & downs, they, in the past 30 years, finally breathe freely- and they would never even think of making any compromise with Russian Euro-Asian yoke.

    So, if you shit your pants at the very idea of nuclear war, better rewire your brain & start thinking: if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living. Reasonable people will always try to reduce the danger of nuclear apocalypse, but if you think that others will submit to slavery because of your fears- you are wrong. Dead wrong. Literally.  

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Addendum: https://qr.ae/prtF58

    , @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If anything, you, as an intelligent person, state the position of the pro-Putinists too well. I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians - they hate the American establishment so much that whatever the establishment is for, they are against. If Joe Biden was for some reason against Ukraine, they would be cheering for it just not to have to agree with him about anything.

    Their hatred of America morally blinds them and they fall for Russian "but-what-about-ism", which is just a cheap trick. America is not perfect but Russian crimes are on a whole different level. They are not comparable at all. Until the Russians have "visited" your country it's impossible to comprehend. Most Westerners just don't have that sort of brutality in their life experience. The closest thing would be something like the Sinaloa Cartel or the Zetas. Putin's enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @David In TN

    , @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living."

    Does this not apply to America as well? People all over the world, including Americans, are sick and tired of America's military presence everywhere and of the State Department and CIA stirring up trouble anywhere it pleases its neocons overlords. Not to mention the use of American toxic culture to destroy foreign cultures: gay pride parades, enforcing gay marriage, trans-kids, crass consumerism, moral relativism, hostility to any kind of religion, etc. Those are cultural "nukes".

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D

  125. @Bardon Kaldian
    @RadicalCenter

    I am not saying that pro-Putinists are "evil". Or that American pro-Putinists are different from those from various other, especially European countries.

    Those who tend to be on the Russian side (and, let's be frank, against Ukrainians) can be divided into a few categories:

    1. people who believe that there is some conspiracy of Western elites to create an imagined New World Order of replaceable people, establish some "globohomo" order & are inimical to all organic collectives (family, people, religious tradition,..). Apart from Masons & plutocrats (Bildenberg, The Club of Rome, Davos,..) , many believers in this conspiracy blame elite Jews, especially in the US, either as masterminds or at least vocal loudspeakers/media promoters of such nefarious endeavors.

    This is what I'd call "global conspiracy", because it seems to be bent on destruction of America & Russia, but in some future also China & the rest of the world. These are people who believe that the goal of supposed shadow-masters is to destroy organic collectives & world civilization as it exists, with the result of creating some global government of small elites ruling over billions of dispossessed.

    2. then, some people believe that it is basically American imperialism- with or without Jews- which threatens Russia as the last bastion of "white civilization". That would be the ideology of American plutocratic elites, "enriched" with CRT, trannies etc. depravities. They want to destroy European-derived Christian civilization, while China, India, Latin America, Africa.... are issues that will be resolved later.

    3. also, there are individuals who consider Russia to be aggressor & not right, but are somehow condoning Russia's war because it was, in their view, forced as a preventive war against NATO. Here, it is not about destroying European civilization, but about isolating Russia (and then, perhaps, China) & marginalizing it in the struggle for resources and geopolitical influence (Asia, Middle East,..).  

    4. the last group is what I call "I care for my ass only". War is not convenient, there is inflation, prices go up,... and these people would say: Look, we know that Russians are aggressors & that Russia is an imperialist piece of crap we detest. But, since we value our comfortable lives, we'd rather that Ukrainians surrender because we are afraid of nuclear war and, above all, we want our safe good secure life. We don't want to think about: What next.  

    What all these groups conveniently "forget" is:

    a) Russia signed various treaties & broke these promises (Budapest 1994, but there are more. When someone mentions the Minsk agreement, I retort: Russia broke that, too. But, I always add: USA & other countries which forced Ukraine to sign that immoral piece of garbage should be held accountable, because that treaty was no better than Munich agreement, appeasing the aggressor).

    b) Russia's war is full of evident lies & barbarism: denial of Ukrainian nationality, ethnocide (forced transfer of occupied Ukrainians into Russia, similar to what Soviet Russians had done to the Baltic peoples in the 1940s), culturocide, mass murder & rape, .. They've done such things that most of their European neighbors, all of them who lived under Soviet occupation, would gladly flay Russians alive if they could just put their hands on them. That is the dominant atmosphere among peoples that lived under Soviet rule.

    This is not the position of Italians, French & Germans, whom most of ex-Soviet vassals loathe so much they would literally vomit when they see them. These peoples know what justice is, what freedom is & what servitude is. They have no illusions about the US and traditional West, but they know that, taking into account all ups & downs, they, in the past 30 years, finally breathe freely- and they would never even think of making any compromise with Russian Euro-Asian yoke.

    So, if you shit your pants at the very idea of nuclear war, better rewire your brain & start thinking: if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living. Reasonable people will always try to reduce the danger of nuclear apocalypse, but if you think that others will submit to slavery because of your fears- you are wrong. Dead wrong. Literally.  

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @BB753

  126. We need to resurrect Agatha Christie so that she can solve the Idaho murders.

    I keep seeing short videos online about the after effects of this horrendous crime in Moscow, Idaho.

    It seems that everybody wants to avoid talking about catching the murderer and the fact that local residents are terrified that they might be next, and preferring to use phrases like “find closure” or “resolve this issue”.⁹

    Apparently the cops are paralyzed because they have been presented with 10,000 tips, so apparently everybody except the police knows who dunnit, but no one has been named as a suspect or arrested.

    (I suspect that the police have some ideas and are perhaps trying to lull the murderer into a sense of false security.)

  127. @Bardon Kaldian
    @RadicalCenter

    I am not saying that pro-Putinists are "evil". Or that American pro-Putinists are different from those from various other, especially European countries.

    Those who tend to be on the Russian side (and, let's be frank, against Ukrainians) can be divided into a few categories:

    1. people who believe that there is some conspiracy of Western elites to create an imagined New World Order of replaceable people, establish some "globohomo" order & are inimical to all organic collectives (family, people, religious tradition,..). Apart from Masons & plutocrats (Bildenberg, The Club of Rome, Davos,..) , many believers in this conspiracy blame elite Jews, especially in the US, either as masterminds or at least vocal loudspeakers/media promoters of such nefarious endeavors.

    This is what I'd call "global conspiracy", because it seems to be bent on destruction of America & Russia, but in some future also China & the rest of the world. These are people who believe that the goal of supposed shadow-masters is to destroy organic collectives & world civilization as it exists, with the result of creating some global government of small elites ruling over billions of dispossessed.

    2. then, some people believe that it is basically American imperialism- with or without Jews- which threatens Russia as the last bastion of "white civilization". That would be the ideology of American plutocratic elites, "enriched" with CRT, trannies etc. depravities. They want to destroy European-derived Christian civilization, while China, India, Latin America, Africa.... are issues that will be resolved later.

    3. also, there are individuals who consider Russia to be aggressor & not right, but are somehow condoning Russia's war because it was, in their view, forced as a preventive war against NATO. Here, it is not about destroying European civilization, but about isolating Russia (and then, perhaps, China) & marginalizing it in the struggle for resources and geopolitical influence (Asia, Middle East,..).  

    4. the last group is what I call "I care for my ass only". War is not convenient, there is inflation, prices go up,... and these people would say: Look, we know that Russians are aggressors & that Russia is an imperialist piece of crap we detest. But, since we value our comfortable lives, we'd rather that Ukrainians surrender because we are afraid of nuclear war and, above all, we want our safe good secure life. We don't want to think about: What next.  

    What all these groups conveniently "forget" is:

    a) Russia signed various treaties & broke these promises (Budapest 1994, but there are more. When someone mentions the Minsk agreement, I retort: Russia broke that, too. But, I always add: USA & other countries which forced Ukraine to sign that immoral piece of garbage should be held accountable, because that treaty was no better than Munich agreement, appeasing the aggressor).

    b) Russia's war is full of evident lies & barbarism: denial of Ukrainian nationality, ethnocide (forced transfer of occupied Ukrainians into Russia, similar to what Soviet Russians had done to the Baltic peoples in the 1940s), culturocide, mass murder & rape, .. They've done such things that most of their European neighbors, all of them who lived under Soviet occupation, would gladly flay Russians alive if they could just put their hands on them. That is the dominant atmosphere among peoples that lived under Soviet rule.

    This is not the position of Italians, French & Germans, whom most of ex-Soviet vassals loathe so much they would literally vomit when they see them. These peoples know what justice is, what freedom is & what servitude is. They have no illusions about the US and traditional West, but they know that, taking into account all ups & downs, they, in the past 30 years, finally breathe freely- and they would never even think of making any compromise with Russian Euro-Asian yoke.

    So, if you shit your pants at the very idea of nuclear war, better rewire your brain & start thinking: if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living. Reasonable people will always try to reduce the danger of nuclear apocalypse, but if you think that others will submit to slavery because of your fears- you are wrong. Dead wrong. Literally.  

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @BB753

    If anything, you, as an intelligent person, state the position of the pro-Putinists too well. I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians – they hate the American establishment so much that whatever the establishment is for, they are against. If Joe Biden was for some reason against Ukraine, they would be cheering for it just not to have to agree with him about anything.

    Their hatred of America morally blinds them and they fall for Russian “but-what-about-ism”, which is just a cheap trick. America is not perfect but Russian crimes are on a whole different level. They are not comparable at all. Until the Russians have “visited” your country it’s impossible to comprehend. Most Westerners just don’t have that sort of brutality in their life experience. The closest thing would be something like the Sinaloa Cartel or the Zetas. Putin’s enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D


    Putin’s enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.
     
    Deluded Spider-Man's fans?
    , @David In TN
    @Jack D

    "I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians."

    Agreed. Every time Ron Unz runs his "CIA and Israel assassinated JFK" articles hundreds of comments appear. They think JFK was against the establishment. He was the most vulnerable president to expose and destroy by scandal imaginable had they been desperate to do so. They even think JFK wouldn't have passed the Civil Rights bill and the 1965 immigration act.

    Not much different regarding Putin. They are too stupid to make a serious case if they had one.

  128. @Jack D
    @BB753

    What a shame that "the moderate" Putin was in charge of Russia instead of a master hard ass (armchair) strategist like you. Forget about Kyiv, Russia would be in Berlin by now.

    I suppose by very low (Hitlerian) standards, Putin is "a moderate" but what he really is is not insane. He has (not very successfully) been trying to walk a fine line between achieving his goals in Ukraine (being the annexation of parts of Ukraine and turning the remainder into a Russian puppet state like Belarus) and not starting WWIII. When his Plan A failed by early April, there was no real Plan B because they were 100% sure that Plan A would succeed. All there has been since then is a series of unsuccessful improvisations, the latest of which is the targeting of civilian infrastructure.

    Doubling down on war crimes earlier wouldn't have been any more successful than his other strategies. Destroying civilian infrastructure would have done nothing to create a situation where there was "no Ukrainian Army" - the Ukrainian Army does not bivouac inside of power plants and transformer stations. The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army. Putin is not that deluded.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @BB753, @RadicalCenter

    The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army.

    This isn’t about demoralization. It’s about supply interdiction. Uncle Sam launched unrestricted submarine warfare and the mining of Japanese waters in WWII to starve the Japanese population and military alike. I’m as supportive of Ukraine as anyone else, but to classify this as “war crimes” is to define war crimes down. If the Holocaust and the Holodomor were war crimes, then they were felonies. These are misdemeanors by comparison, the equivalent of simple assault.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Johann Ricke

    Here is a fair treatment of the subject:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/when-are-attacks-civilian-infrastructure-war-crimes-2022-12-16/

    It's not really a question of felony vs. misdemeanor (cutting power in winter can cause a lot of deaths) but whether the targets are of mixed civilian/military use or PRIMARILY civilian. That you can describe some remote way in which the civilian infrastructure indirectly or somewhat benefits the military does not make it a legitimate military target.

    Also standards have evolved along with technology - area bombing as done in WWII would now be a war crime because the military has the ability to precisely target military targets while sparing civilians. In fact Russia has this ability and uses it to precisely in the opposite way - to target CIVILIAN targets while leaving actual military targets untouched. Because they WANT to spread terror.



    "acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population" ..[are] forbidden under international humanitarian law and was confirmed as a war crime by rulings of the U.N. tribunal for the former Yugoslavia relating to the siege of Sarajevo.
     
    What you are saying is just more butwhataboutism. What the West does on a bad day is something to be avoided, but the Russians look at it as a floor of what they can get away with - we can do things AT LEAST that bad.
  129. Sam Rockwell seemed constrained by having to use a British accent. It also made him hard to place class-wise which is highly important for any period Brit movie. Since he seemed to be doing an impression of Tom Hollander’s general affect they probably should just have cast Hollander, or if they wanted another American star alongside Adrien Brody just made up a story about how he was a visiting American cop.

  130. @alaska3636
    The who-dunnit is a pretty bleak genre but I liked the first hour of See How They Run. I didn't find Rockwell uncharismatic as a drunk, apathetic detective and, as you mention, Saorse (? not looking) was delightful.

    I was going to mention Glass Onion which currently sits at 93 critic and audience score on RT. It's over 2.5 hours of trash script, bad acting, current year moralizing and then a bad CGI finish. Daniel Craig's character was interesting in Knives Out but this movie follows the Disney formula to make the lead take a backseat to the strong, black female genius.

    I also found Banshees of Inisherin tiresome (currently 98 on RT). This was not a good year for movies with wunderkind Damien Chazzelle (what is with these names?) movie Babylon getting trashed by everyone. At over 3 hours, I don't have it in me but I liked Whiplash and First Man. La La Land was neat too but I guess they gave the kid too much rope for this one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    And David O. Russell’s “Amsterdam” is lousy too.

    2019 was a year with a lot of movies better than you’d expect, while 2022 has basically the Top Gun movie being better than you’d expect and most everything else being about as good as hoped (Avatar) or worse.

    • Replies: @alaska3636
    @Steve Sailer

    About an hour into Amsterdam I thought "I Heart Huckabee's was good" then turned that movie on.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  131. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army.
     
    This isn't about demoralization. It's about supply interdiction. Uncle Sam launched unrestricted submarine warfare and the mining of Japanese waters in WWII to starve the Japanese population and military alike. I'm as supportive of Ukraine as anyone else, but to classify this as "war crimes" is to define war crimes down. If the Holocaust and the Holodomor were war crimes, then they were felonies. These are misdemeanors by comparison, the equivalent of simple assault.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Here is a fair treatment of the subject:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/when-are-attacks-civilian-infrastructure-war-crimes-2022-12-16/

    It’s not really a question of felony vs. misdemeanor (cutting power in winter can cause a lot of deaths) but whether the targets are of mixed civilian/military use or PRIMARILY civilian. That you can describe some remote way in which the civilian infrastructure indirectly or somewhat benefits the military does not make it a legitimate military target.

    Also standards have evolved along with technology – area bombing as done in WWII would now be a war crime because the military has the ability to precisely target military targets while sparing civilians. In fact Russia has this ability and uses it to precisely in the opposite way – to target CIVILIAN targets while leaving actual military targets untouched. Because they WANT to spread terror.

    “acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population” ..[are] forbidden under international humanitarian law and was confirmed as a war crime by rulings of the U.N. tribunal for the former Yugoslavia relating to the siege of Sarajevo.

    What you are saying is just more butwhataboutism. What the West does on a bad day is something to be avoided, but the Russians look at it as a floor of what they can get away with – we can do things AT LEAST that bad.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  132. @Art Deco
    @BB753

    A non-moderate Putin would have taken Kiev by now.

    Chuckles.

    Replies: @BB753

    Of course, according to CNN’s news, Zelensky is about to take Moscow. In reality, the top Ukrainian general all but concedes defeat.
    https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    You must have read a different interview. That's not what he says at all. Maybe you are just used to reading Russian propaganda where you never admit that anything is not going perfectly.

    Replies: @BB753

  133. @Jack D
    @BB753

    What a shame that "the moderate" Putin was in charge of Russia instead of a master hard ass (armchair) strategist like you. Forget about Kyiv, Russia would be in Berlin by now.

    I suppose by very low (Hitlerian) standards, Putin is "a moderate" but what he really is is not insane. He has (not very successfully) been trying to walk a fine line between achieving his goals in Ukraine (being the annexation of parts of Ukraine and turning the remainder into a Russian puppet state like Belarus) and not starting WWIII. When his Plan A failed by early April, there was no real Plan B because they were 100% sure that Plan A would succeed. All there has been since then is a series of unsuccessful improvisations, the latest of which is the targeting of civilian infrastructure.

    Doubling down on war crimes earlier wouldn't have been any more successful than his other strategies. Destroying civilian infrastructure would have done nothing to create a situation where there was "no Ukrainian Army" - the Ukrainian Army does not bivouac inside of power plants and transformer stations. The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army. Putin is not that deluded.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @BB753, @RadicalCenter

    Plan A was to take Dombas and force Ukraine and the West to negotiate. Plan B is to totally destroy the Ukrainian and NATO military in the area, and to seize all of Ukraine East of the Dnieper. Plan B is the consequence of the West forbidding Zelensky to negotiate and forcing Ukraine to fight till the bitter end.
    As for destroying the infrastructure, it’s a basic military tactic when you want to invade a territory and you want to nullify the enemy military. BTW, it’s similar to the American doctrine of warfare of Shock and Awe without the psy-ops component aimed explicitly at the civil population as well.

  134. @Bardon Kaldian
    @RadicalCenter

    I am not saying that pro-Putinists are "evil". Or that American pro-Putinists are different from those from various other, especially European countries.

    Those who tend to be on the Russian side (and, let's be frank, against Ukrainians) can be divided into a few categories:

    1. people who believe that there is some conspiracy of Western elites to create an imagined New World Order of replaceable people, establish some "globohomo" order & are inimical to all organic collectives (family, people, religious tradition,..). Apart from Masons & plutocrats (Bildenberg, The Club of Rome, Davos,..) , many believers in this conspiracy blame elite Jews, especially in the US, either as masterminds or at least vocal loudspeakers/media promoters of such nefarious endeavors.

    This is what I'd call "global conspiracy", because it seems to be bent on destruction of America & Russia, but in some future also China & the rest of the world. These are people who believe that the goal of supposed shadow-masters is to destroy organic collectives & world civilization as it exists, with the result of creating some global government of small elites ruling over billions of dispossessed.

    2. then, some people believe that it is basically American imperialism- with or without Jews- which threatens Russia as the last bastion of "white civilization". That would be the ideology of American plutocratic elites, "enriched" with CRT, trannies etc. depravities. They want to destroy European-derived Christian civilization, while China, India, Latin America, Africa.... are issues that will be resolved later.

    3. also, there are individuals who consider Russia to be aggressor & not right, but are somehow condoning Russia's war because it was, in their view, forced as a preventive war against NATO. Here, it is not about destroying European civilization, but about isolating Russia (and then, perhaps, China) & marginalizing it in the struggle for resources and geopolitical influence (Asia, Middle East,..).  

    4. the last group is what I call "I care for my ass only". War is not convenient, there is inflation, prices go up,... and these people would say: Look, we know that Russians are aggressors & that Russia is an imperialist piece of crap we detest. But, since we value our comfortable lives, we'd rather that Ukrainians surrender because we are afraid of nuclear war and, above all, we want our safe good secure life. We don't want to think about: What next.  

    What all these groups conveniently "forget" is:

    a) Russia signed various treaties & broke these promises (Budapest 1994, but there are more. When someone mentions the Minsk agreement, I retort: Russia broke that, too. But, I always add: USA & other countries which forced Ukraine to sign that immoral piece of garbage should be held accountable, because that treaty was no better than Munich agreement, appeasing the aggressor).

    b) Russia's war is full of evident lies & barbarism: denial of Ukrainian nationality, ethnocide (forced transfer of occupied Ukrainians into Russia, similar to what Soviet Russians had done to the Baltic peoples in the 1940s), culturocide, mass murder & rape, .. They've done such things that most of their European neighbors, all of them who lived under Soviet occupation, would gladly flay Russians alive if they could just put their hands on them. That is the dominant atmosphere among peoples that lived under Soviet rule.

    This is not the position of Italians, French & Germans, whom most of ex-Soviet vassals loathe so much they would literally vomit when they see them. These peoples know what justice is, what freedom is & what servitude is. They have no illusions about the US and traditional West, but they know that, taking into account all ups & downs, they, in the past 30 years, finally breathe freely- and they would never even think of making any compromise with Russian Euro-Asian yoke.

    So, if you shit your pants at the very idea of nuclear war, better rewire your brain & start thinking: if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living. Reasonable people will always try to reduce the danger of nuclear apocalypse, but if you think that others will submit to slavery because of your fears- you are wrong. Dead wrong. Literally.  

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D, @BB753

    “if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living.”

    Does this not apply to America as well? People all over the world, including Americans, are sick and tired of America’s military presence everywhere and of the State Department and CIA stirring up trouble anywhere it pleases its neocons overlords. Not to mention the use of American toxic culture to destroy foreign cultures: gay pride parades, enforcing gay marriage, trans-kids, crass consumerism, moral relativism, hostility to any kind of religion, etc. Those are cultural “nukes”.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753

    First- the US did not threaten anyone with nukes, so this is a clear difference. No person of sane mind condones American interventions, 2-3 of them in the past 20 or so years. For instance, Stephen Kotkin was clear that, while he condemns Russian invasion of Ukraine, he was also opposed to the Iraq war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGIl2FLatUA

    There is no causal connection that would politically, economically, culturally ..between US interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria and Russian invasion of Ukraine. Most people who are against Russian aggression were also against American meddling into the Syrian war- although these systems are simply incomparable & respective regimes are completely different: Ukraine is a flawed European democracy, while Syria is a Middle Eastern tyranny.

    As far as gays & trannies go, this is a part of degenerate cultural revolution. Even in affluent Europe, for instance in Italy and France, most people find these issues laughable & dismiss them out of hand. Moderate position in most European countries is that American public discourse is full of nutters & that one should let this lunacy to run its course. "Gay indoctrination" is something absolutely marginal & only Orban and Putin make some fuss about it, because no mentally sane child will call their parents number 1 and 2 or go gay. No one thinks that trannies are women, and trannies simply don't exist here.

    But- virtually all people find Iranian public executions of homosexuals absolutely disgusting: As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too

    https://i.postimg.cc/28QY8N2v/incest.png

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Jack D
    @BB753

    Bardon - see, this is what it comes down to. The pro-Putinists hate America (or at least America as it currently exists, which is the only America that we have) so Putin, who promises to cut America down a notch, is their hero, along with Iran and N. Korea - anyone willing to kick at America's shins is OK by them.

    Their hatred of America blinds them to a lot of things, such as the fact that Russia is no moral paragon either and the fact that Russia is not "taking on America", they are taking on (and not doing well against) a weaker neighboring country (bullies only attack the weak). The BS about how America is going to turn your children trannie is just kayfabe for the rubes. If the West is so rotten, why do the children of all the top Russian leadership live there?

    Replies: @BB753

  135. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If anything, you, as an intelligent person, state the position of the pro-Putinists too well. I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians - they hate the American establishment so much that whatever the establishment is for, they are against. If Joe Biden was for some reason against Ukraine, they would be cheering for it just not to have to agree with him about anything.

    Their hatred of America morally blinds them and they fall for Russian "but-what-about-ism", which is just a cheap trick. America is not perfect but Russian crimes are on a whole different level. They are not comparable at all. Until the Russians have "visited" your country it's impossible to comprehend. Most Westerners just don't have that sort of brutality in their life experience. The closest thing would be something like the Sinaloa Cartel or the Zetas. Putin's enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @David In TN

    Putin’s enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.

    Deluded Spider-Man’s fans?

  136. @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living."

    Does this not apply to America as well? People all over the world, including Americans, are sick and tired of America's military presence everywhere and of the State Department and CIA stirring up trouble anywhere it pleases its neocons overlords. Not to mention the use of American toxic culture to destroy foreign cultures: gay pride parades, enforcing gay marriage, trans-kids, crass consumerism, moral relativism, hostility to any kind of religion, etc. Those are cultural "nukes".

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D

    First- the US did not threaten anyone with nukes, so this is a clear difference. No person of sane mind condones American interventions, 2-3 of them in the past 20 or so years. For instance, Stephen Kotkin was clear that, while he condemns Russian invasion of Ukraine, he was also opposed to the Iraq war:

    There is no causal connection that would politically, economically, culturally ..between US interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria and Russian invasion of Ukraine. Most people who are against Russian aggression were also against American meddling into the Syrian war- although these systems are simply incomparable & respective regimes are completely different: Ukraine is a flawed European democracy, while Syria is a Middle Eastern tyranny.

    As far as gays & trannies go, this is a part of degenerate cultural revolution. Even in affluent Europe, for instance in Italy and France, most people find these issues laughable & dismiss them out of hand. Moderate position in most European countries is that American public discourse is full of nutters & that one should let this lunacy to run its course. “Gay indoctrination” is something absolutely marginal & only Orban and Putin make some fuss about it, because no mentally sane child will call their parents number 1 and 2 or go gay. No one thinks that trannies are women, and trannies simply don’t exist here.

    But- virtually all people find Iranian public executions of homosexuals absolutely disgusting: As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "the US did not threaten anyone with nukes"
    Nor did Russia.

    I find it interesting that you brush off the US-financed and social engineered promotion of feminism, gayness and tran-mania as laughable. It's not a joke: it's destroying society and the very core of civilization from within. Are you that blase or part of the problem?

    "As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too"

    Well, sadly most of Western Europe seems fine with incest, excluding Britain and the Scandinavians.

    Replies: @Jack D

  137. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    It's a rule so if you want to watch anything new, get used to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/sep/09/oscars-diversity-rules-hollywood

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Well, yeah, as long as survival isn’t a concern.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/12/25/hollywood-lost-more-than-500-billion-in-market-value-in-2022/

    You’d better hit the theater, as it’s up to you to do the job that wipipo don’t want to do.

    Netflix isn’t fat and happy anymore.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/netflix-customers-could-face-criminal-charges-sharing-their-password

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Brutusale

    I probably go to a movie Theatre every other year and haven’t had a A TV since 2018.

  138. @Mike Tre
    @Art Deco

    Nobody has in mind to send 100’s of billions of tax dollars to other countries when they cast a vote, you silly little troll.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Brutusale

    I gotta disagree, Mike. A major selling point for a Trump vote was his lack of interest in getting into wars. The M-I-C couldn’t let someone like THAT get elected again, could they?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Brutusale

    I think there’s a significant difference between casting a vote against foreign spending and casting a vote for it.

    Were people (the real ones anyway) going to polls thinking “I support Biden sending billions to any country to help them facilitate a drawn out war!”?

  139. @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753

    First- the US did not threaten anyone with nukes, so this is a clear difference. No person of sane mind condones American interventions, 2-3 of them in the past 20 or so years. For instance, Stephen Kotkin was clear that, while he condemns Russian invasion of Ukraine, he was also opposed to the Iraq war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGIl2FLatUA

    There is no causal connection that would politically, economically, culturally ..between US interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria and Russian invasion of Ukraine. Most people who are against Russian aggression were also against American meddling into the Syrian war- although these systems are simply incomparable & respective regimes are completely different: Ukraine is a flawed European democracy, while Syria is a Middle Eastern tyranny.

    As far as gays & trannies go, this is a part of degenerate cultural revolution. Even in affluent Europe, for instance in Italy and France, most people find these issues laughable & dismiss them out of hand. Moderate position in most European countries is that American public discourse is full of nutters & that one should let this lunacy to run its course. "Gay indoctrination" is something absolutely marginal & only Orban and Putin make some fuss about it, because no mentally sane child will call their parents number 1 and 2 or go gay. No one thinks that trannies are women, and trannies simply don't exist here.

    But- virtually all people find Iranian public executions of homosexuals absolutely disgusting: As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too

    https://i.postimg.cc/28QY8N2v/incest.png

    Replies: @BB753

    “the US did not threaten anyone with nukes”
    Nor did Russia.

    I find it interesting that you brush off the US-financed and social engineered promotion of feminism, gayness and tran-mania as laughable. It’s not a joke: it’s destroying society and the very core of civilization from within. Are you that blase or part of the problem?

    “As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too”

    Well, sadly most of Western Europe seems fine with incest, excluding Britain and the Scandinavians.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    Transmania is not destroying civilization. It's like gay wedding cakes or some other cultural wedge issues that pushes people's buttons but whose actual impact on the average person is nil.

    What feminism, gayness and tran-mania have in common is that they are naturally self-limiting phenomena - their practitioners take themselves out of the gene pool. So the next generation of people are the kind of people who are socially and genetically less interested in feminism, gayness and tran-mania.

    Of the three, feminism is the one that is actually destructive but also the one that is hardest to resist. Feminism is a universal problem of modern societies that is in part driven by the fact that most work no longer involves feats of physical strength. But what is the alternative to feminism? The Taliban?

    Feminism is destructive because it is highly dysgenic - the females who should be reproducing the most are the ones who are reproducing the least. It's fine for gays and trannies to take themselves out of the gene pool but it's not fine for highly intelligent women to do so.

    BTW, the birth rate in Russia, esp. among the white population, is just as abysmal as other European countries.

    It really wouldn't take a massive revolution to slightly rearrange things and say return to the order that prevailed until the 1970s - highly intelligent women should FIRST get married and have 2 or 3 or 4 kids and THEN return to the workforce. But no one has figured out how to do this.

    Replies: @BB753

  140. @BB753
    @Art Deco

    Of course, according to CNN's news, Zelensky is about to take Moscow. In reality, the top Ukrainian general all but concedes defeat.
    https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

    Replies: @Jack D

    You must have read a different interview. That’s not what he says at all. Maybe you are just used to reading Russian propaganda where you never admit that anything is not going perfectly.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    You must learn to read between the lines. In asking for weapons and trained troops presently unavailable and in quoting fellow Nazi-adjacent Finnish Marshall Mannerheim, he tells an intelligent reader everything he needs to know.

    Replies: @Jack D

  141. @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "if any bully with nukes can enforce his will on others just because of nuclear arsenal, then it is life not worth living."

    Does this not apply to America as well? People all over the world, including Americans, are sick and tired of America's military presence everywhere and of the State Department and CIA stirring up trouble anywhere it pleases its neocons overlords. Not to mention the use of American toxic culture to destroy foreign cultures: gay pride parades, enforcing gay marriage, trans-kids, crass consumerism, moral relativism, hostility to any kind of religion, etc. Those are cultural "nukes".

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Jack D

    Bardon – see, this is what it comes down to. The pro-Putinists hate America (or at least America as it currently exists, which is the only America that we have) so Putin, who promises to cut America down a notch, is their hero, along with Iran and N. Korea – anyone willing to kick at America’s shins is OK by them.

    Their hatred of America blinds them to a lot of things, such as the fact that Russia is no moral paragon either and the fact that Russia is not “taking on America”, they are taking on (and not doing well against) a weaker neighboring country (bullies only attack the weak). The BS about how America is going to turn your children trannie is just kayfabe for the rubes. If the West is so rotten, why do the children of all the top Russian leadership live there?

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    You're seriously deluded. First WWII victory euphoria, then the Cold War and the transformation of America into a war-machine economy, hijacked by neocons like yourself, have made ordinary Americans blind to the threat to world peace their country has become.

  142. @Jack D
    @BB753

    You must have read a different interview. That's not what he says at all. Maybe you are just used to reading Russian propaganda where you never admit that anything is not going perfectly.

    Replies: @BB753

    You must learn to read between the lines. In asking for weapons and trained troops presently unavailable and in quoting fellow Nazi-adjacent Finnish Marshall Mannerheim, he tells an intelligent reader everything he needs to know.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    Of course he is asking/begging for more weapons. That's the whole point of giving interviews to the Western press.

    Mannerheim comes to mind because Finland (newest NATO member - heckuva job you did there, Puttie) was also a country that bravely resisted Russian aggression. As for Mannerheim being Nazi adjacent, war makes for strange bedfellows. Is Putin now Ayatollah adjacent because the Iranians are suddenly his best friends/drone suppliers?

    As for WWII victory euphoria, it's Putin that has made WWII victory the centerpiece of Russia's legitimacy. Nothing like the Russian WWII cult exists in America. For most Americans today, WWII is a distant memory.

    Replies: @BB753, @David In TN

  143. @Jack D
    @BB753

    Bardon - see, this is what it comes down to. The pro-Putinists hate America (or at least America as it currently exists, which is the only America that we have) so Putin, who promises to cut America down a notch, is their hero, along with Iran and N. Korea - anyone willing to kick at America's shins is OK by them.

    Their hatred of America blinds them to a lot of things, such as the fact that Russia is no moral paragon either and the fact that Russia is not "taking on America", they are taking on (and not doing well against) a weaker neighboring country (bullies only attack the weak). The BS about how America is going to turn your children trannie is just kayfabe for the rubes. If the West is so rotten, why do the children of all the top Russian leadership live there?

    Replies: @BB753

    You’re seriously deluded. First WWII victory euphoria, then the Cold War and the transformation of America into a war-machine economy, hijacked by neocons like yourself, have made ordinary Americans blind to the threat to world peace their country has become.

  144. @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "the US did not threaten anyone with nukes"
    Nor did Russia.

    I find it interesting that you brush off the US-financed and social engineered promotion of feminism, gayness and tran-mania as laughable. It's not a joke: it's destroying society and the very core of civilization from within. Are you that blase or part of the problem?

    "As they find Russian legal tolerance of incest disgusting, too"

    Well, sadly most of Western Europe seems fine with incest, excluding Britain and the Scandinavians.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Transmania is not destroying civilization. It’s like gay wedding cakes or some other cultural wedge issues that pushes people’s buttons but whose actual impact on the average person is nil.

    What feminism, gayness and tran-mania have in common is that they are naturally self-limiting phenomena – their practitioners take themselves out of the gene pool. So the next generation of people are the kind of people who are socially and genetically less interested in feminism, gayness and tran-mania.

    Of the three, feminism is the one that is actually destructive but also the one that is hardest to resist. Feminism is a universal problem of modern societies that is in part driven by the fact that most work no longer involves feats of physical strength. But what is the alternative to feminism? The Taliban?

    Feminism is destructive because it is highly dysgenic – the females who should be reproducing the most are the ones who are reproducing the least. It’s fine for gays and trannies to take themselves out of the gene pool but it’s not fine for highly intelligent women to do so.

    BTW, the birth rate in Russia, esp. among the white population, is just as abysmal as other European countries.

    It really wouldn’t take a massive revolution to slightly rearrange things and say return to the order that prevailed until the 1970s – highly intelligent women should FIRST get married and have 2 or 3 or 4 kids and THEN return to the workforce. But no one has figured out how to do this.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it's 100 % in accord with Christianity.
    Perhaps you're too old or out of touch to not downplay the deleterious effects of "gay" marriage and LGBTQ everything including transmania. Believe me, it's gonna destroy the fabric of society faster than feminism.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  145. @BB753
    @Jack D

    You must learn to read between the lines. In asking for weapons and trained troops presently unavailable and in quoting fellow Nazi-adjacent Finnish Marshall Mannerheim, he tells an intelligent reader everything he needs to know.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Of course he is asking/begging for more weapons. That’s the whole point of giving interviews to the Western press.

    Mannerheim comes to mind because Finland (newest NATO member – heckuva job you did there, Puttie) was also a country that bravely resisted Russian aggression. As for Mannerheim being Nazi adjacent, war makes for strange bedfellows. Is Putin now Ayatollah adjacent because the Iranians are suddenly his best friends/drone suppliers?

    As for WWII victory euphoria, it’s Putin that has made WWII victory the centerpiece of Russia’s legitimacy. Nothing like the Russian WWII cult exists in America. For most Americans today, WWII is a distant memory.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    Asking for weapons and troups he knows are not available is code for: "we're screwed but I can't say it overtly. Let me get rid of Zelensky so I can reach an agreement with Russia, like Mannerheim did with Stalin. We may yet get to keep half of our territory like Finland did"

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @David In TN
    @Jack D

    The Soviet Regime also used the WW II cult. In the 1970s American journalists and others who talked to regular citizens would say their loyalty was due to "World War II." They believed the Regime beat Hitler and saved them. Among some, there was also a residual reverence for Stalin for the same reason.

    I recall an article along these lines in Human Events.

    Replies: @Jack D

  146. @Brutusale
    @Mike Tre

    I gotta disagree, Mike. A major selling point for a Trump vote was his lack of interest in getting into wars. The M-I-C couldn't let someone like THAT get elected again, could they?

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    I think there’s a significant difference between casting a vote against foreign spending and casting a vote for it.

    Were people (the real ones anyway) going to polls thinking “I support Biden sending billions to any country to help them facilitate a drawn out war!”?

  147. @Jack D
    @BB753

    Transmania is not destroying civilization. It's like gay wedding cakes or some other cultural wedge issues that pushes people's buttons but whose actual impact on the average person is nil.

    What feminism, gayness and tran-mania have in common is that they are naturally self-limiting phenomena - their practitioners take themselves out of the gene pool. So the next generation of people are the kind of people who are socially and genetically less interested in feminism, gayness and tran-mania.

    Of the three, feminism is the one that is actually destructive but also the one that is hardest to resist. Feminism is a universal problem of modern societies that is in part driven by the fact that most work no longer involves feats of physical strength. But what is the alternative to feminism? The Taliban?

    Feminism is destructive because it is highly dysgenic - the females who should be reproducing the most are the ones who are reproducing the least. It's fine for gays and trannies to take themselves out of the gene pool but it's not fine for highly intelligent women to do so.

    BTW, the birth rate in Russia, esp. among the white population, is just as abysmal as other European countries.

    It really wouldn't take a massive revolution to slightly rearrange things and say return to the order that prevailed until the 1970s - highly intelligent women should FIRST get married and have 2 or 3 or 4 kids and THEN return to the workforce. But no one has figured out how to do this.

    Replies: @BB753

    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it’s 100 % in accord with Christianity.
    Perhaps you’re too old or out of touch to not downplay the deleterious effects of “gay” marriage and LGBTQ everything including transmania. Believe me, it’s gonna destroy the fabric of society faster than feminism.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753


    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it’s 100 % in accord with Christianity.
     
    Of course this is not going to happen. Neither women nor men want to go to the old dreary days.

    Replies: @BB753

  148. @Jack D
    @BB753

    Of course he is asking/begging for more weapons. That's the whole point of giving interviews to the Western press.

    Mannerheim comes to mind because Finland (newest NATO member - heckuva job you did there, Puttie) was also a country that bravely resisted Russian aggression. As for Mannerheim being Nazi adjacent, war makes for strange bedfellows. Is Putin now Ayatollah adjacent because the Iranians are suddenly his best friends/drone suppliers?

    As for WWII victory euphoria, it's Putin that has made WWII victory the centerpiece of Russia's legitimacy. Nothing like the Russian WWII cult exists in America. For most Americans today, WWII is a distant memory.

    Replies: @BB753, @David In TN

    Asking for weapons and troups he knows are not available is code for: “we’re screwed but I can’t say it overtly. Let me get rid of Zelensky so I can reach an agreement with Russia, like Mannerheim did with Stalin. We may yet get to keep half of our territory like Finland did”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    Like I said, maybe you read a different article than I did. I saw no hint, coded or otherwise, that Zaluzhnyi wants to get rid of Zelensky or that he wants to make a deal with Russia. You're not reading between the lines, you are just projecting your own wishes onto him.

    BTW, Finland lost 10% of its territory in WWII, not half.

  149. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    If Chechnya was so insignificant, why did Russia fight so hard for it? What % of US foreign trade did Vietnam represent? Some things can't be understood by reference to an almanac.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Your contention has been that Russia should come apart at the seems and that it is filled with crypto-turks. The only part of the country that put up armed resistance to the central government was a dirt poor segment where < 1% of the population lives. Understanding the implications of that for your thesis is not that difficult.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    Like I said, this is Galeev's contention, not mine. Like I said, I suggest you take it up with him on Twitter because I think he will have interesting responses because he is very knowledgeable on this particular subject . You still might not agree with him, but you might learn something.

  150. @Steve Sailer
    @alaska3636

    And David O. Russell's "Amsterdam" is lousy too.

    2019 was a year with a lot of movies better than you'd expect, while 2022 has basically the Top Gun movie being better than you'd expect and most everything else being about as good as hoped (Avatar) or worse.

    Replies: @alaska3636

    About an hour into Amsterdam I thought “I Heart Huckabee’s was good” then turned that movie on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @alaska3636

    Now that I think about it, David O. Russell isn't the most stable character. He was hot in the 1990s, then was a jerk on the set to the crew and got into a fistfight with George Clooney when the star stood up to defend the little people. That put him in movie jail for awhile but then he made three good movies in a row in 2008-2012, one of them with Bradley Cooper acting out Russell's own mental illness.

  151. @alaska3636
    @Steve Sailer

    About an hour into Amsterdam I thought "I Heart Huckabee's was good" then turned that movie on.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Now that I think about it, David O. Russell isn’t the most stable character. He was hot in the 1990s, then was a jerk on the set to the crew and got into a fistfight with George Clooney when the star stood up to defend the little people. That put him in movie jail for awhile but then he made three good movies in a row in 2008-2012, one of them with Bradley Cooper acting out Russell’s own mental illness.

  152. @Jack D
    @BB753

    Of course he is asking/begging for more weapons. That's the whole point of giving interviews to the Western press.

    Mannerheim comes to mind because Finland (newest NATO member - heckuva job you did there, Puttie) was also a country that bravely resisted Russian aggression. As for Mannerheim being Nazi adjacent, war makes for strange bedfellows. Is Putin now Ayatollah adjacent because the Iranians are suddenly his best friends/drone suppliers?

    As for WWII victory euphoria, it's Putin that has made WWII victory the centerpiece of Russia's legitimacy. Nothing like the Russian WWII cult exists in America. For most Americans today, WWII is a distant memory.

    Replies: @BB753, @David In TN

    The Soviet Regime also used the WW II cult. In the 1970s American journalists and others who talked to regular citizens would say their loyalty was due to “World War II.” They believed the Regime beat Hitler and saved them. Among some, there was also a residual reverence for Stalin for the same reason.

    I recall an article along these lines in Human Events.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @David In TN

    Absolutely, but Putin has taken it to new heights because it's the only thing he has going for him. The Soviets could at least pretend that they were acting in the name of the Proletariat in order to achieve Socialism. There was a whole ideological, intellectual framework to Bolshevism which Putin completely lacks . Of course it was BS but people really believed it. The WWII Victory Cult also existed but it was only one aspect of Soviet legitimacy whereas for Putin there is no other ideology to fall back on so he has made it the centerpiece of Putinism.


    For example, he can't say he is invading Ukraine to oust the capitalists, but he can say that he is invading to oust the Nazis.

  153. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If anything, you, as an intelligent person, state the position of the pro-Putinists too well. I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians - they hate the American establishment so much that whatever the establishment is for, they are against. If Joe Biden was for some reason against Ukraine, they would be cheering for it just not to have to agree with him about anything.

    Their hatred of America morally blinds them and they fall for Russian "but-what-about-ism", which is just a cheap trick. America is not perfect but Russian crimes are on a whole different level. They are not comparable at all. Until the Russians have "visited" your country it's impossible to comprehend. Most Westerners just don't have that sort of brutality in their life experience. The closest thing would be something like the Sinaloa Cartel or the Zetas. Putin's enemies keep falling out of windows. Every day another oligarch falls out a window.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @David In TN

    “I find most of them to be just drooling idiots and contrarians.”

    Agreed. Every time Ron Unz runs his “CIA and Israel assassinated JFK” articles hundreds of comments appear. They think JFK was against the establishment. He was the most vulnerable president to expose and destroy by scandal imaginable had they been desperate to do so. They even think JFK wouldn’t have passed the Civil Rights bill and the 1965 immigration act.

    Not much different regarding Putin. They are too stupid to make a serious case if they had one.

  154. @Brutusale
    @Truth

    Well, yeah, as long as survival isn't a concern.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/12/25/hollywood-lost-more-than-500-billion-in-market-value-in-2022/

    You'd better hit the theater, as it's up to you to do the job that wipipo don't want to do.

    Netflix isn't fat and happy anymore.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/netflix-customers-could-face-criminal-charges-sharing-their-password

    Replies: @Truth

    I probably go to a movie Theatre every other year and haven’t had a A TV since 2018.

  155. @David In TN
    @Jack D

    The Soviet Regime also used the WW II cult. In the 1970s American journalists and others who talked to regular citizens would say their loyalty was due to "World War II." They believed the Regime beat Hitler and saved them. Among some, there was also a residual reverence for Stalin for the same reason.

    I recall an article along these lines in Human Events.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Absolutely, but Putin has taken it to new heights because it’s the only thing he has going for him. The Soviets could at least pretend that they were acting in the name of the Proletariat in order to achieve Socialism. There was a whole ideological, intellectual framework to Bolshevism which Putin completely lacks . Of course it was BS but people really believed it. The WWII Victory Cult also existed but it was only one aspect of Soviet legitimacy whereas for Putin there is no other ideology to fall back on so he has made it the centerpiece of Putinism.

    For example, he can’t say he is invading Ukraine to oust the capitalists, but he can say that he is invading to oust the Nazis.

  156. @BB753
    @Jack D

    Asking for weapons and troups he knows are not available is code for: "we're screwed but I can't say it overtly. Let me get rid of Zelensky so I can reach an agreement with Russia, like Mannerheim did with Stalin. We may yet get to keep half of our territory like Finland did"

    Replies: @Jack D

    Like I said, maybe you read a different article than I did. I saw no hint, coded or otherwise, that Zaluzhnyi wants to get rid of Zelensky or that he wants to make a deal with Russia. You’re not reading between the lines, you are just projecting your own wishes onto him.

    BTW, Finland lost 10% of its territory in WWII, not half.

  157. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Your contention has been that Russia should come apart at the seems and that it is filled with crypto-turks. The only part of the country that put up armed resistance to the central government was a dirt poor segment where < 1% of the population lives. Understanding the implications of that for your thesis is not that difficult.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Like I said, this is Galeev’s contention, not mine. Like I said, I suggest you take it up with him on Twitter because I think he will have interesting responses because he is very knowledgeable on this particular subject . You still might not agree with him, but you might learn something.

  158. @BB753
    @Jack D

    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it's 100 % in accord with Christianity.
    Perhaps you're too old or out of touch to not downplay the deleterious effects of "gay" marriage and LGBTQ everything including transmania. Believe me, it's gonna destroy the fabric of society faster than feminism.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it’s 100 % in accord with Christianity.

    Of course this is not going to happen. Neither women nor men want to go to the old dreary days.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Neither women nor men want to go to the old dreary days."

    Speak for yourself. It might have been boring but it was a precious thing called civilization. It's shameful that backward countries in the Muslim world look saner than our putrid and decadent West. Our own women look and act like whores while Muslim women are by and large still ladies. As a Westerner, I find this sad state of affairs humiliating. And it can't go on..

  159. @Reg Cæsar

    a title derived from
     
    This title is as likely to evoke "Lady Madonna" as it is "Three Blind Mice". McCartney's description of the origin of that song is rather innocent, but I've seen the interpretation that the days and times refer to her appointments as a call girl. That may be reading too much into it, as with Lucy and LSD, and Puff and pot.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Sam Malone

    Just about the best damn song they ever did. And of course it’s all Paul.

  160. @Jack D
    @BB753

    What a shame that "the moderate" Putin was in charge of Russia instead of a master hard ass (armchair) strategist like you. Forget about Kyiv, Russia would be in Berlin by now.

    I suppose by very low (Hitlerian) standards, Putin is "a moderate" but what he really is is not insane. He has (not very successfully) been trying to walk a fine line between achieving his goals in Ukraine (being the annexation of parts of Ukraine and turning the remainder into a Russian puppet state like Belarus) and not starting WWIII. When his Plan A failed by early April, there was no real Plan B because they were 100% sure that Plan A would succeed. All there has been since then is a series of unsuccessful improvisations, the latest of which is the targeting of civilian infrastructure.

    Doubling down on war crimes earlier wouldn't have been any more successful than his other strategies. Destroying civilian infrastructure would have done nothing to create a situation where there was "no Ukrainian Army" - the Ukrainian Army does not bivouac inside of power plants and transformer stations. The point of this (not that it will succeed) is to demoralize the Ukrainian population so that they will sue for peace, not to erase the Ukrainian Army. Putin is not that deluded.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @BB753, @RadicalCenter

    The US DOD War Manual expressly states that destruction of power infrastructure can be a legitimate military objective and activity. Do you disagree with the US Department of Defense?

    And when will we start the human-rights/war-crime prosecutions for the military and political rulers of the US for their intentional widespread destruction of power plants, water treatment plants, and hospitals serving civilians in countries 5,000-plus miles from our borders?

    Crickets, eh Jackie?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @RadicalCenter

    I again refer you to this article:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/when-are-attacks-civilian-infrastructure-war-crimes-2022-12-16/

    and my earlier response to Johann. Whether destruction of power infrastructure is a question that will be determined at the war crimes trials. It's not a black and white thing because sometimes power infrastructure has dual civilian - military uses and other times it can be purely or primarily civilian. But there are many clues that Russia is not taking out power in order to impede Ukraine's military but in the hope of bringing the civilian population to its knees.

    Putting aside all moral and legal questions (as Putin surely has), the only questions that remains is, will this tactic be effective? Russia uses this tactic because it worked for them in Chechnya and in Syria (and because Putin thinks that there is little chance that as the head of a nuclear armed power he will find himself in the dock at the Hague). However, Russia (even with the support of Iran) may not have the ability to fully bring down the Ukrainian grid for more than a few days. And as Ukrainian capabilities increase with Western support (and these attacks only deepen Western support) Russia needs to consider that drones can fly in BOTH directions.

  161. @RadicalCenter
    @Jack D

    The US DOD War Manual expressly states that destruction of power infrastructure can be a legitimate military objective and activity. Do you disagree with the US Department of Defense?

    And when will we start the human-rights/war-crime prosecutions for the military and political rulers of the US for their intentional widespread destruction of power plants, water treatment plants, and hospitals serving civilians in countries 5,000-plus miles from our borders?

    Crickets, eh Jackie?

    Replies: @Jack D

    I again refer you to this article:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/when-are-attacks-civilian-infrastructure-war-crimes-2022-12-16/

    and my earlier response to Johann. Whether destruction of power infrastructure is a question that will be determined at the war crimes trials. It’s not a black and white thing because sometimes power infrastructure has dual civilian – military uses and other times it can be purely or primarily civilian. But there are many clues that Russia is not taking out power in order to impede Ukraine’s military but in the hope of bringing the civilian population to its knees.

    Putting aside all moral and legal questions (as Putin surely has), the only questions that remains is, will this tactic be effective? Russia uses this tactic because it worked for them in Chechnya and in Syria (and because Putin thinks that there is little chance that as the head of a nuclear armed power he will find himself in the dock at the Hague). However, Russia (even with the support of Iran) may not have the ability to fully bring down the Ukrainian grid for more than a few days. And as Ukrainian capabilities increase with Western support (and these attacks only deepen Western support) Russia needs to consider that drones can fly in BOTH directions.

  162. @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753


    The alternative to feminism is pre-suffragette Western tolerance of feminism. That is, zero. Call it Taliban if you like but it’s 100 % in accord with Christianity.
     
    Of course this is not going to happen. Neither women nor men want to go to the old dreary days.

    Replies: @BB753

    “Neither women nor men want to go to the old dreary days.”

    Speak for yourself. It might have been boring but it was a precious thing called civilization. It’s shameful that backward countries in the Muslim world look saner than our putrid and decadent West. Our own women look and act like whores while Muslim women are by and large still ladies. As a Westerner, I find this sad state of affairs humiliating. And it can’t go on..

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