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The FBI searched Joe Biden’s house in Delaware and found more classified documents he shouldn’t have had.

Like I’ve been saying for a long time, Biden is the second Trumpiest man in politics.

For example, Trump and Biden claim to be the two best of the many golfers to be President:

Gerald Ford was an All-American football player and while President outdrove Arnold Palmer. But he still was a 12 handicap.

 
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  1. It was an obvious mistake, no way Biden would ever keep classified information to illegally sell or blackmail someone, unlike Emmanuel Trumpenstein.

  2. Dmon says:

    He’s more like the second Blagojevichiest man in politics. With all the rest of them tied for third.

    • Replies: @Oscar Goldman
  3. Dream says:

  4. Trump is nothing like Biden from a cultural. Trump represented a full-blown rebellion against the Establishment. Biden represents submission to the Establishment, the Deep State, the Institutions, whatever.

    Trump asked questions like why were we in NATO. He wanted to ease tensions with Russia. He at least talked about America as a country worth saving. This is why we had the unnecessary and damaging Covid Lockdown Hysteria (and the attendant election process changes) – in order to get rid of Trump and install Biden.

    To act like they’re both the same is dishonest.

  5. Abe says:

    The FBI searched Joe Biden’s house in Delaware

    Full stop. And there’s nothing weird, untoward, or outrageous that a bureaucratic organization that in theory should be owned body & soul, lock, stock, and barrel by the Executive Branch is seeking to liquidate the sitting Executive (immediately after taking the same exact shot at the former and possibly future Executive) on the most picayune, legalistic, rat-fink grounds and you see nothing horrendously consequential about that?

    Look, I’m as much of a red=blooded “Let’s Go Brandon” guy as anybody, but Joe Biden is the (ahem) legitimately-elected representative of the people, the ONLY part of the Federal apparatus that can be said to represent the will of the American people in its entirety, and now the bureaucratic machine that should always and in every case be a mere extension of his office and will is in plain sight and before our very eye trying to splatter his brains all over the asphalt of Dallas. Regardless of whatever triple-bankshoot, 4D chess Kabuki theater this all really is intended to be, this is [email protected] up. It’s the biggest violation of “our democracy” since the Civil War. It’s treason.

  6. Dumbo says:

    Everybody knew Biden was corrupt as hell. From his shady deals in Ukrainistan to this new nonsense, and starting with the fraud in the elections. He was chosen exactly because he was easy to get rid of, with any excuse. Now the jews that control him want to replace him with Newsom or some other shabbos goy, so they are using this ridiculous story of hidden documents, but any other excuse would do, there are so many. Hey, if the media wanted, they could get rid of him just showing all the images of him sniffing little girls’ hair and saying “that’s disgusting” etc.

    It’s funny that Steve, who reads the NYT every day, doesn’t seem to realize who really runs this country. They own the media and they can say anything they want, and people will believe them. Who holds the megaphone holds the power. Biden? Biden is as much a harmless puppet as Zelensky.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @AndrewR
  7. @Abe

    The FBI and the DOJ showed their hand during the Trump-Russia hoax, 2020 Antifa riots, the stolen 2020 election, the Jan 6th prosecutions, the Mar-a-Lago raid, and the babykillers’ illegal protests at the Supreme Court justices homes. Merrick Garland came in 2021, but he’s part and parcel of all that.

    The law is now just a Soviet-style political weapon to these guys. Act accordingly.

  8. 216 says: • Website

    I’m docuuuuuuumenting

  9. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Trump asked questions like why were we in NATO.

    But only to encourage the other members to spend more, not America less. Can you tell the difference between the Trump and Biden eras:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/217577/outlays-for-defense-and-forecast-in-the-us/

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  10. What is exciting is that Atlanta, Georgia is burning for the second or third time since the Civil War. Something about a police shooting a demonstrator on police property.

    • Replies: @fish
  11. J says: • Website

    It is rather surprising that Pres. Biden takes work home.

  12. Permanent Washington deciding the imperial POTUS has “mishandled classified documents” is their way of saying he has lost the mandate of Heaven.

    • Agree: fish, Mr. Anon
    • Thanks: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  13. Old Prude says:
    @Henry's Cat

    That little dip after 2010 (sequestration?) had the DOD careerist howling and wailing. They cried about having to cut back on training and critical missions, but somehow still had enough in the till to host Gay Pride symposiums at West Point.

  14. @Henry's Cat

    There’s a reason they hated Trump and wanted him out so much. It’s true he selected many of the same old Establishment types but he represented a real populist revolt. Even his tweets were a danger to our Fake Elites.

    They feared what made Trump possible and they still fear it. Focusing Biden and Trump’s “older guy” similarities is silly and superficial.

  15. G. Poulin says:
    @Abe

    They don’t splatter brains over asphalt anymore, except as a last resort. Instead they harass, entrap, smear, and drag their target through the legal system. Works like a charm.

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Kylie
  16. tyrone says:

    The two situations are different, one legal (Trump) and one illegal (Biden)…..the unjust ,illegal raid on Mar a Lago was like a smoke grenade to extricate Biden from consequences of his stupid criminal actions. Oh, and of course the timing everything was political…..how humiliating to have a piece of evil ,demon possessed filth like Joe Biden as “president”.

  17. Kylie says:
    @G. Poulin

    “They don’t splatter brains over asphalt anymore, except as a last resort. Instead they harass, entrap, smear, and drag their target through the legal system. Works like a charm.”

    Exactly. The bad guys have been replaced by the mean girls.

  18. Dumbo says:

    OT: How do Asian shooters fare on the hit/injured/dead ratio?

    Well, it is not clear if the shooter is Asian, but Monterey park area appears to be heavily Asian.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-22/la-me-monterey-park-mass-shooting

  19. fish says:
    @Unintended Consequence

    What is exciting is that Atlanta, Georgia is burning for the second or third time since the Civil War.

    Urban renewal?

  20. fish says:
    @Henry's Cat

    Can you tell the difference between the Trump and Biden eras….

    Yes…..I hated the Trump era less.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  21. Mike Tre says:

    This comparison is pretty thin gruel.

    But anyway, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if TPTB were now just planting these documents at Biden’s house for cause to get rid of him. I was one of those who believed that they’d just “died peacefully in his sleep” him, but they also realized they can’t possibly put Komoto Harris “in charge.” Perhaps Biden is worth more alive than dead, because they can just continue to use his demented ass as a scapegoat for whatever other scandalous nonsense gets uncovered. So they let him live, make him un reelectable, use him as a squirrel to distract the dogs, and prop a new puppet to say the words.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  22. Mike Tre says:

    OT – 9 dead and 9 wounded at mass shooting during Chinese NY celebration in Not China, I mean, Los Angeles:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-22/reports-of-multiple-people-shot-in-california/101880840

    Killed/wounded ratio doesn’t support the perp being a negro, so disgruntled Taiwanese maybe?

  23. New York property developer or career Washington politician.

    Which one is dirtiest?
    No brainer really.

  24. Anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    JFK was a liar too.

    And FDR was an 8 handicap with Polio from a wheelchair?

    • LOL: mc23
  25. @Abe

    My question has been “why are we hearing about this at all?”

    That there were documents isn’t so surprising. Many or most are overclassified, were marked because somewhere they included some material (not necessary classified) that was extracted a quote a marked document, or the material had a shelf life.
    It was always high probability that nothing would come of the Trump documents.
    The Biden documents are problematic in that they reach back to VP and Senate days, but are unlikely to contain anything that if released would harm the nation.

    Do why did the Biden finds become public instead of being handled quietly?

    It gives the look of Schumer’s warning to Trump, “They have seven ways to Sunday to get back at you”
    The easy thing to say is that he’s being warned not to seek re-election?

    • Replies: @TWS
  26. @Redneck farmer

    Redneck farmer wrote:

    It was an obvious mistake, no way Biden would ever keep classified information to illegally sell or blackmail someone, unlike Emmanuel Trumpenstein.

    We need to keep in mind that there are two fundamentally different categories of classified information:

    A) Technical details of our weapon systems, communication encryption protocols, etc., which would give a real advantage to an enemy if compromised.

    B) Time-sensitive material concerning US government knowledge and evaluation of foreign actors, international situations, etc., which are very sensitive at one point in time but irrelevant years later and which really should be declassified..

    Neither Trump nor Biden can understand the stuff in category A.

    Almost certainly they both had stuff in category B that really should have been declassified because it is no longer sensitive.

    The only reason to take all this seriously is:

    1) “Little people” are indeed sent to jail for picayune stuff like this: it reveals a double standard.

    2) With Cloud People like Biden and Trump, this is all part of the maneuvering within the ruling elite. They wanted to destroy Trump, and it now appears that they have decided it is best to jettison Biden.

    It does distract us all from real catastrophes: the mass murder going on in Ukraine and the risk of nuclear war, the ongoing collapse of our monetary and financial system, the mutilation of our children who are confused about their “gender,” etc.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri, Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  27. Guest007 says:

    Steve, please write something about the shooting in Monterey Park, CA. The media seems to be avoiding most of the story. The emphasis on Monterey Park being majority Asian but no description of the shooter or naming of the venue of the shooting is suspicious. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-22/la-me-monterey-park-mass-shooting

  28. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Trump said the right things on the campaign trail – that’s why he won.

    But as president, he didn’t follow up.

    That’s why he lost.

    Had he actually fulfilled any of his promises, then he would have won re-election in a landslide.

    And the Deep State would have to resort to other ways to be rid of him.

    (Trump is still in the news because he won’t retire, politically. If he were to step away from the arena, his legal and image problems would disappear in the MSM.)

    • Agree: Old Prude
  29. Um, true, Franklin Roosevelt’s was an avid golfer, but that all took place well before he took office.

  30. @Mike Tre

    Enough with these HBD claims of a race having poor marksmanship.

    The engagements in question take place where the other side shoots back. It is really hard to shoot straight when someone is shooting back at you.

    It’s that along with centuries of oppression and marginalization means the parties involved have to resort to cheap, low-powered ammunition.

  31. How did FDR play golf in a Wheelchair?

  32. Guest007 says:

    Anyone who takes Trump’s handicap seriously is an idiot.

  33. anon[507] • Disclaimer says:

    FDR had a 7 handicap? Pretty good for someone that couldn’t walk. To actually have a handicap, you have to count shots and record scores.

    For anyone that would actually use one, lying to lower your handicap is stupid.

  34. @Dumbo

    It is majority asian. 67% asian according to Wikipedia. One of the cities in LA County where the de-Americanization of America is most pronounced.

    I would not be surprised if it was due to some intra-chinese grudge carried over from the old country.

  35. Bugg says:
    @Mike Tre

    No description of the shooter. Hmmmm….

    • Replies: @mc23
    , @Nachum
  36. Hodag says:

    Trump was carrying a vanity handicap. 2.6 playing Winged Foot West. No.

    But he really had a good swing, got nice and square at contact and a good, high finish.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  37. Is Trump really a 2.8-handicap golfer? That’s awfully good golf.

  38. OT: Monterrey Park shooter described in news reports as “male”. Dollars to donuts if it was a white male you would know about it by now. Likely an anti-Asian hate crime committed by a member of a particular group known for assaulting them, pushing them onto subway tracks, etc..

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  39. @Mike Tre

    Killed/wounded ratio doesn’t support the perp being a negro, so disgruntled Taiwanese maybe?

    Nah. Just some Fudd.

  40. Jack D says:
    @Abe

    He’s the President, not the King. He doesn’t have Sovereign Immunity. If the Executive Branch cannot investigate violations of law within the Executive Branch, we would need to have some other arm of government with that power – maybe the judiciary or legislature.

    But you can’t just say that the President can do whatever the hell he wants and that if he has committed a crime he can order his own Executive Branch not to investigate it. That way lies chaos.

    Biden wasn’t even the President when these documents were taken. It’s completely proper for the FBI to do this, putting aside whether our classification laws make sense (whether they do or not, they are on the books – if you are some shnook working in the Pentagon and you take classified documents home they are going to go after you).

    The FBI reports to the Justice Dept. and the Attorney General, by long standing tradition, is not under direct command of the President. (In other countries, BTW, prosecutors are often part of the judicial branch, not the executive). If the President doesn’t like what the AG is doing, he can fire him but otherwise he cannot tell him what to do and not do for exactly the above reasons.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  41. @Abe

    I agree completely. As much as I hate Biden, the prospect of federal law enforcement dropping classified docs on a president like some two-bit vice cop “finding” a bag of crack on a junkie is something I find very unsettling.

    • Thanks: Abe
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  42. B36 says:

    Trump can’t hold a candle to Biden. Just watch:

    • Thanks: Coemgen, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  43. @Jack D

    “…It’s completely proper for the FBI to do this, ..”

    An important point here is that the White House requested the search.

    • LOL: Muggles
  44. Jack D says:
    @Dumbo

    Until they catch the guy, the working assumption in the MSM will be that he is a racist white KKK dude. CNN will have all sorts of “experts” on talking about the “epidemic of hate”, the danger that white dudes pose to our democracy, etc. They will go all in on this because they may only have a short window in which they can speculate as they please (and they please to blame white people).

    Once they catch him, he will probably turn out to be Asian. Monterrey Park is 6% white. White people are no longer a factor in Monterrey Park. They are a rounding error. They barely exist. The business signs are mainly in Chinese or some other Asian language. They don’t even bother with the English translation. It doesn’t even look like you are in America anymore, because to some extent you aren’t.

  45. Coemgen says:

    …But you can’t just say that the President can do whatever the hell he wants…

    That’s why Congress and the Supreme Court have the power to provide checks and balances against the President as does the President have the power to provide checks and balances against the Congress and the Supreme Court.

    If the executive branch is not taking orders from the duly elected executive, then who are they taking orders from?

    There’s always a leader.

    If that leader is not the duly elected executive, that is a big problem.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @Jack D
  46. Dan Smith says:

    Biden and Trump are serial fabulists, so their golf handicaps are suspect. Clinton as well. Kennedy had severe back pain issues so it’s hard to imagine him staying single digit.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  47. So what are the classified documents that Trump took, and what are the classified documents that Biden took, and was there any motive other than that they were both senile old men who didn’t know their ass from their elbow?

    These are the questions that need to be asked and answered, but it seems to be impossible to do this, because these documents are, well, classified, which means that nobody is allowed to see them except for President Trump and President Biden.

    Perhaps President Obama can be brought back to look at these documents and tell the public whether they contain anything important or secret, or are just copies of the Oval Office carpet shampoo schedule.

    • Agree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @PhysicistDave
  48. I’ll take the over on FDR’s handicap during his presidency. No pun intended.

    And JFK was a 7 with that bad back? I doubt it.

    • Agree: Pixo
  49. @Hodag

    Okay, but the issue no one is talking about is how does Franklin “Polio” Roosevelt have a mere 8 handicap? Indeed, how is he even a presidential “golfer in office” at all?

  50. Peterike says:

    My hunch is that Obamas handicap is getting a few affirmative action point deductions.

  51. Corvinus says:

    Of course this is a gigantic pitfall for Biden. His opposition is having a field day, and deservedly so.

    But there’s two big differences.

    First, Biden is not even remotely close to the “second Trumpiest man in politics “, as Mr. Sailer says. That’s tin cup narrative.

    Second, there’s decidedly more cooperation with Biden, while Trump has repeatedly stonewalled investigators.

    I fully expect an attempt in the House for impeachment proceedings. Whether it goes anywhere remains to be seen.

  52. Corvinus says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You would think Mr. Sailer would at least make an honest effort to highlight your point. But that’s expecting way too much.

  53. EdwardM says:
    @Dumbo

    From the article:

    Meyer said investigators don’t know whether the victims were targeted. He said it was too early to know whether the shooting was a hate crime. “We will look at every angle,” he said.

    In other words, we don’t know if it was a “hate crime,” but our fingers are crossed.

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
  54. countenance says: • Website

    By the time they’re done digging through Biden’s garage next to the ‘Vette, we’ll finally get to find out who really offed JFK, where D. B. Cooper escaped to, and where the Ark of the Covenant is buried.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Dmon
  55. Mark G. says:

    With all the major problems this country is facing, the mainstream media is spending its time on Trump and Biden taking classified documents home. This is a little like wanting to know who rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic without permission as it heads for the iceberg.

  56. Biden is in real trouble here, but I doubt this in itself will lead to his removal. He will not be impeached with this Congress, and if he resigned, he would have to be either pardoned or prosecuted, both of which are a bad look for the Ds, so he won’t do that. They will string out a long investigation, with the interesting bits drowned in a sea of boring details, until his term is up.

    What few are asking is whether Biden ever had a legal right to see the documents in the first place, let alone walk off with them. Trump as head of the executive branch could see and declassify anything, but a Senator or VP has no such automatic power. They didn’t tell Truman about the atomic bomb until FDR was dead.

  57. @Dream

    Well, the Ukrainians have noted who their traitors are and publishing “Who’s Naughty or Nice” lists on social media so they can meet meet their fate via extralegal “Final Exit” demises.

    In Russia, fires from unknown origins (“cigarettes”) have broken out. Ukraine makes no move to take the credit.


    It wouldn’t surprise me if similar starts occurring in areas where illegal gun control “laws” are upheld and self-organizing militia responds via extrajudicial action.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  58. Dmon says:
    @countenance

    As long as they don’t release intimate footage of Hillary and Huma. Some things legitimately need to stay buried.

  59. Forbes says:
    @R.G. Camara

    The ‘rule of man’ prevails, the ‘rule of law’ is dead.

    There is no mystery, perhaps, except we slept-walked our way into it…

  60. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    i·ro·ny1 | ˈīrənē |

    noun (plural ironies)

    • the expression of one’s meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect: “Don’t go overboard with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony.
    • a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result: the irony is that I thought he could help me | one of life’s little ironies.
    • (also dramatic or tragic irony) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character’s words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

  61. Aside from both serving as president, there is NO basis for comparison between a man who spent a life richly lived actually building things and creating jobs in the public sector and a man who has spent his entire adult life grifting off of the public.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Kylie
  62. SF says:

    OT, so is the Monterey Park shooting suspect white, black hispanic or asian? Police aren’t saying. Ten killed, several injured suggests white. On the other hand, he did get away for the time being.

    • Replies: @SF
  63. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Trump is nothing like Biden from a cultural. Trump represented a full-blown rebellion against the Establishment. Biden represents submission to the Establishment, the Deep State, the Institutions, whatever.

    All true. But c’mon Steve’s talking about personality not politics. (His graphic is golf handicap.)

    That said, I somewhat disagree with Steve. Biden’s is “Trumpy” really only in the dimension of having an extreme self-regard and being a big bullshitter.

    Even Trump’s bullshit is of a somewhat “it’s gonna be great” character. Biden’s b.s. is often flat out lying about very specific personal stuff. And Trump is capable of carrying on with his quasi-standup routine, actually coming up with good quips and takedowns. Biden simply is not.

    Trump–while intellectually lazy–actually developed his own personal critique of the way he saw America trending and strove to act upon it. Trump’s a lifelong do-er, with high personal energy. Biden has never developed any idea, but followed what seemed trendy and politically beneficial. He is now a complete tool of the Jewish establishment–spouting ever more ridiculous (minoritarian) stuff that’s in direct contradiction to the ideas/rhetoric of his centrist left career.

    Trump, even with his huge ego, seems to know there are smarter people around who can do X or Y or Z for him, even if he’s too lazy and full of himself to do the necessary work to make it all work for him and us. Biden in contrast seems to believe–or willing to convince himself–that he really is the smartest guy in the room, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    Biden really comes across as the arrested development HS smart jock asshole. Thought he was the smartest coolest kid in his HS and never progressed from there. Trump–for all his manifest faults–seems like a guy who progressed on through to adult, businessman assholery. Just with a gianormous ego covering some deeper insecurities.

  64. anonymous[704] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    10 dead 10 wounded they are saying
    looking for an Asian gunman
    so between the Sailer’s Law black shooter ratios and the white shooter ratios
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/10-dead-10-more-injured-mass-shooting-during-california-lunar-new-yea-celebrations

  65. Coemgen says:
    @Dan Smith

    Biden and Trump are serial fabulists, …

    Give us concrete examples.

    For example, it well documented that Joe Biden admitted to plagiarism in college (i.e., he lied by submitting the work of others as his own):
    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html

    More recently, we don’t have concrete proof of this but, it sure looks like Joe Biden discussed Hunter Biden’s international “business” dealings in countries (Ukraine, China) where Joe Biden, as vice-POTUS, was negotiating financial deals with governments.

    Of course, Joe Biden’s response to the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid does smack of dishonesty in that his rhetoric implies that he, Joe Biden, would never ever ever take classified material home.

  66. @Corvinus

    I am grateful to Mr. Sailer to allow me to post an opinion, because I think it is likely that lots of top-level politicians and their staff, and journalists read Mr. Sailer’s articles and the associated comments.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. Eisenhower’s I can at least believe.

    And–not coincidentally–the best president during my life. The last somewhat decent president we’ve had.

    • Disagree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Alden
  68. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    To act like they’re both the same is dishonest.

    I agree with the rest but not this part. I don’t think Steve is at all dishonest. IMO, his mindset as far as the US Gov’t goes is that it’s still the 1980s as far as the Feral Gov’t being there mostly to (at least try to) help Americans.

    It’s the Potomac Regime now, and every patriotic American should be against this Regime. As clueless and controlled as he is, Biden is of the Regime. As (somewhat less) clueless and incapable as he was, Trump has never been of the Regime.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Kylie
    , @Mike Tre
  69. mc23 says:
    @Bugg

    It’s all beginning to come together.

  70. Legba says:

    They say Biden’s lawyers found the documents. Was there no way they could’ve handled that ethically (or at least legally) without throwing Joe under the bus? It seems to me a good lawyer could do that so why didn’t they? Has Joe outlived his usefulness to his bosses? Or is that moshuga?

  71. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “It’s the Potomac Regime now, and every patriotic American should be against this Regime.”

    No True Scotsman Fallacy. Anyways, besides griping on a blog, what are you doing to facilitate regime change?

    “As clueless and controlled as he is, Biden is of the Regime. As (somewhat less) clueless and incapable as he was, Trump has never been of the Regime.”

    Trump had Jews in his cabinet and as advisors. He was definitively part of the Regime.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Prester John
  72. @Cagey Beast

    0:59: “I keep waiting for the White House physician to announce another document trove has been discovered after a routine Colonoscopy.” Someone’s been reading the Babylon Bee

    Move on a minute, and Tucker gets serious.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Prester John
  73. Corvinus says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    It’s more probable that a few important people on the right and on the left are familiar with his writings.

  74. @Achmed E. Newman

    The part about Nixon and Watergate felt like something Carlson had been thinking about a long time. He may have heard some of it from his father.

  75. SF says:
    @SF

    Fox news now reporting suspect is Asian.

  76. @Dream

    This tweet has it exactly right: If American political leadership continues in anarcho-tyranny mode we will see cartel hits on mayors and police chiefs not just in states in the Southwest and West Coast, but wherever cartel business is transacted. And long grows those tendrils. This is why the capture of federal law enforcement and the military by what can only be called an enemy force is so disastrous. Because we’re going to need these now untrustworthy agencies to prevent third world levels of corruption and chaos.

    We need FBI/ATF/Marshalls to mount large scale operations against cartel agents within the United States. We need CIA/U.S. Military to declare war on cartel finances, leadership, infrastructure and take it out. If the Mexicans and other Latin American host countries illicit a response in protest make the kinetic action so devastating that you won’t have to tell them to go fuck themselves.

    But before the hammer drops extensive intelligence needs to be collected on American political and national security leaders like Alejandro Mayorkas and their revenue streams. I would include under that microscope all military leadership flag-rank and up. Allow the team of specially-vetted operatives to work in a limited space — six to twelve months maximum — and scoop up what you can. As the first waves of arrests begin launch the kinetic action.

  77. @Achmed E. Newman

    Well, Sandy Berger had documents stuffed inside his pants so…who knows?

  78. @Intelligent Dasein

    “very unsettling”

    It’s the new fourth branch of government — Intelligence/Espionage. Its duties are subverting laws and elections, compromising elected and bureaucratic officials, and making sure the federal government works on behalf of the globalist corporate/financial infrastructure, i.e. the Shadow of Babylon.

    This is why we’re mostly fooked.

  79. Jack D says:
    @Jack D

    Window has closed. Suspect is described as a “male Asian”.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @prosa123
  80. @Corvinus

    “He was definitively part of the Regime.”

    Yeah…until he asked two questions:

    1.) Why the need for NATO and why the need for myriad overseas US military commitments?

    and

    2.) Why the need for so many unskilled immigrants?

    At which time he was summarily dismissed from “the Regime.”

    Or should I say “the Club?”

  81. @Guest007

    The way the MSM and local officials are pussy footing around a description of the perp leads me to suspect that it will turn out to be a Negro. OTOH, the high fatality rate and an application of Sailer’s Law suggests that perhaps this a very rare case of a hate crime against Asians where a Negro is not the offender.

    • Replies: @Guest007
  82. Mr. Anon says:
    @PhysicistDave

    We need to keep in mind that there are two fundamentally different categories of classified information:

    A) Technical details of our weapon systems, communication encryption protocols, etc., which would give a real advantage to an enemy if compromised.

    B) Time-sensitive material concerning US government knowledge and evaluation of foreign actors, international situations, etc., which are very sensitive at one point in time but irrelevant years later and which really should be declassified.

    You left out one category:

    C) Information that embarrasses or incriminates government officials or which would give people reason to question official government positions or narratives.

    That may actually account for a majority of classified information.

    I don’t imagine that either Biden or Trump, both of whom are shallow narcissistic blowhards, kept information for the purpose of enlightening the public. Whatever they had, to the degree they knew they had it at all, would be information they thought they could use as an insurance policy against political enemies or which merely fed their vanity.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  83. Alfa158 says:
    @Jack D

    Also, he tried to hit another dance club half an hour later but was disarmed at the weapons check station at the door before he could fire, and fled leaving the gun behind.
    Not confirmed yet but a local Chinese civic leader said on an interview that the suspect was known, and had been having domestic issues. That was just an impromptu sidewalk interview on one station so I wouldn’t put too much credence on that particular detail yet.
    Local leader of Asian advocacy group is saying this was a hate crime even if the shooter was Asian, I suppose because “white” racism is the wellspring of all bad things, (or at least that’s what pays her bills).
    In any event, Sailer’s Law seems to be affirmed by this atrocity.

    • Replies: @Dmon
  84. Jack D says:
    @Coemgen

    There’s always a leader.

    There’s a difference between a democratically elected leader and a Führer. Presidents are supposed to have limited ability to interfere with the Justice Dept. If the President calls up the AG and says “go easy on my Hunter”, the AG is supposed to tell him to take a hike. The President can fire his AG and try to get a more compliant one confirmed by Congress. He can pardon Hunter. But he can’t tell the AG what to do directly like he can issue orders to military generals.

  85. Nachum says:
    @Bugg

    They’re beginning to grudgingly admit that just maybe he may have been Asian.

  86. P.T. says:

    Regarding Gerald Ford, you know what the pro golfers say: You drive for show, but you putt for dough.
    lll

  87. Dmon says:
    @Alfa158

    LA Times current posting on MSN, as of 12:00 noon PST.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-find-van-linked-to-gunman-in-lunar-new-year-mass-shooting-shots-fired-in-torrance/ar-AA16BXoT

    In paragraph 5, they mention an “advisory” from the LAC Sheriff that suspect is an Asian male. My daughter lives about 6 blocks away, and the “suspect” was already dead by this time.
    Most of the second half of the article is devoted to reminding the reader that “hate crimes” against Asians are on the rise, taking careful note to remind everyone about the rising epidemic of anti-Asian hate crimes. Some of the choicer bits:

    Officials indicated that the shooting may have been a hate crime…
    “As you know, hate crime is nothing new,” L.A. County Supervisor Hilda Solis said. “We know this is a problem, and we have to confront it.”…
    Hate crimes against Asian Americans in California increased 177.5% in 2021, according to the California Department of Justice…
    She woke up early Sunday to check out the set up for the Lunar New Year celebration that had been planned for later in the day when she learned about the shooting. Liaw said she is worried the shooting could have been motivated by anti-Chinese hate — a fear she said has been heightened by anti-Chinese rhetoric during the pandemic…

    And in closing, Judy Chu indicates her top priority:

    “I hope we can make a determination as to whether this was a hate crime,” Rep. Judy Chu (D-Monterey Park) said, describing the Lunar New Year as a time to celebrate with family. “This tore a hole through all of our hearts.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  88. Anon[267] • Disclaimer says:

    A bit OT,but I heard this on my local newscast,WLS,Chicago: Re the Atlanta mostly peaceful riots,antifa is howling mad because one of their guys was shot. Police say he shot and wounded a cop,( and was rightfully put down) and the anchor adds:” …some say that isn’t true.”
    Some say?😆

  89. Coemgen says:
    @Jack D

    …If the President calls up the AG and says “go easy on my Hunter”, the AG is supposed to tell him to take a hike….

    The ethical thing for the AG to do is to advise the President against this, “It could be grounds for impeachment Mr President,” then follow the order (as long as it is not an illegal order such as having Julian Assange or Jeffrey Epstein murdered).

  90. @Jack D

    Great comment, Jack. BTW, as I recall, Monterrey Park was chock-a-full of Chinese people even in the late 1980s.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  91. @Jack D

    “It doesn’t even look like you are in America anymore, because to some extent you aren’t.”

    Here we see the huge mistake that Russia made in invading Ukraine with an actual army. In order to take over Ukraine, they should have just snuck in illegally and started mowing lawns, washing dishes and doing the dry cleaning.

    • LOL: Hibernian, Kylie
  92. @Hapalong Cassidy

    I guess I stand corrected. I failed to take into account Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings, in which I suppose Asians have the same accuracy as Whites.

  93. prosa123 says:
    @Jack D

    Shot himself as the police closed in.

  94. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I knew whiteness would be implicated. The shooter was driving a white van.

    Apparently he’s dead now. Not clear yet whether the cops shot him or he shot himself. According to some sources it was a “domestic dispute” between a husband and a wife. Couldn’t they just use frying pans or other traditional weapons?

    • Replies: @Dmon
  95. Muggles says:
    @R.G. Camara

    The law is now just a Soviet-style political weapon to these guys. Act accordingly.

    “Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.” (Attributed to Stalin).

    So, anyone asking when Merritt Garland’s commandos will be raiding Obama’s homes, or Clinton’s, searching for Classified Documents?

    Has anyone bothered to ask?

    (Thought not…)

  96. @EdwardM

    In other words, they don’t think the perp is white.

  97. @Jack D

    The problem with “go easy on hunter” is not that the President lacks authority to order it but that it is a blatant conflict of interest and the President should recuse himself. If he does not Congress should impeach and convict him of misusing his office for personal gain.

    The local DA in your town has a lot of power but if you believe he is head of an independent agency, like the Federal Reserve, I disagree.

    If the President does not have authority over the AG who does? the mob when the AG finally goes so loose cannon it is unendurable?

  98. Muggles says:
    @Dumbo

    Early witness reports say “an Asian man.”

    Either a gambling debt issue or possibly family/marriage driven killing.

    Remote possibility it is a Triad related drug thing, though shooting random people at Chinese dance halls seems more crazy than criminally motivated.

    If you merely want to scare people into paying, you shoot but don’t kill.

  99. JimDandy says:

    In other news: mass shooting. 12 people shot. Zero dead. Louisiana. A ramshackle club called “Dior”… “All 12 shot were taken to local hospitals by ambulance or private cars,” Baton Rouge police Sgt. L’Jean McKneely Jr. said.

    Lookin’ good for the Steve theory.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dozen-people-wounded-early-morning-louisiana-nightclub-shooting-rcna66903

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  100. One of the–many–laughable aspects of these “classified documents!” faux dramas, that the US deep state loves to stamp “classified” on everything but is utterly incapable of keeping its actual should-be-secrets from actual enemies.

    Here’s an article on a book on the China mess–echoes of all the Soviet follies.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/james-bamford-chinese-mole-fbi-cia-spy-network-gutted-2023-1

    Chinese mediocrities able to stroll into CIA and FBI jobs. Agents and communications protocols given away. Bundles of “top secret” docs downloaded onto thumb drives. Numerous questions and red flags ignored. Same old, same old.

    Basic 101 level ideas like “compartmentalization”, “need to know” and “single point of failure” are beyond these people. But hey, our national security was hanging precariously by a thread in Mar-a-lago, or in Biden’s garage.

    No. The US is secure because of our nice geography, nuclear weapons and scientists and engineers who’ve kept our electronics/weapons systems a step ahead for 80 years. Our Deep State sucks ago hundreds of billions and–like the rest of our verbalist overclass–is a complete embarrassment.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Pixo
    , @scrivener3
    , @mc23
  101. OT, but have they found the Asian Incel Dance Studio Shooter yet?

  102. Pixo says:
    @AnotherDad

    One advantage of stamping classified on millions of routine documents is being an effective traitor all but requires a high IQ, probably top 1%, to figure out what’s actually especially useful.

    Examples:

    Pollard: Stanford;
    Robin Hanssen: Northwestern MBA, cryptography interest;
    Snowden: self taught in Mandarin language and advanced computer security.

    Bradley “Chelsea” Manning was average IQ, but he was also quickly caught and needed the high IQ Assange to help him every step of the way.

    Aldrich Ames possibly was top 1%: admitted to U Chicago in 1959, child of a professor and English teacher, but got bad grades and had an undistinguished career at the CIA.

    These guys are probably top 5% at least, but not a lot of specific evidence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_James_Nicholson

    https://noir4usa.org/resources/inside-the-mind-of-a-spy/

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  103. ice cold take. Steve’s batting average has been dropping like a rock the last 3 years.

    other than both being President, Trump and Biden have almost nothing in common.

  104. OT:

    Summary thread of threads. On the Demographics of Murderers & their Victims in 2021 (FBI NIBRS)

  105. @scrivener3

    The local DA in your town has a lot of power but if you believe he is head of an independent agency, like the Federal Reserve, I disagree.

    If the President does not have authority over the AG who does?….

    A simple way to start to answer all of these is who can “fire” them? Especially with how much ease? I use that exception for impeachment, which is an exceptional process, compared to the Florida governor’s ability to fire DAs and sheriffs that I’ve noticed as of late. In the vast majority of states the AG is elected independently of the governor, have never checked for (county) DAs but in the states I can remember they too are elected and thus normally “fired” by the voters.

    Whereas the US Federal government’s executive branch, absent some recent Congressional actions which aren’t always standing up to judicial review, is “unitary.” A position like AG is nominated by the President “and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate” appointed, but can be fired by the President like Sessions was by Trump without ceremony after the 2018 election.

    • Replies: @VivaLaMigra
  106. Jeffrey Zients, Biden’s new diversity hire for Chief of Staff!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Zients

    Promoted for his magnificent performance in managing Biden’s Covid-19 response!

    Wait, am I in the right timeline?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  107. Gerald Ford was an All-American Warren Commission piece of garbage.

  108. @Redneck farmer

    It was an obvious mistake, no way Biden would ever keep classified information to illegally sell or blackmail someone

    Maybe he kept original documents that would incriminate him. The fun thing is that we don’t get to know what was in the docs unless the Deep State chooses to leak them. So lot’s of leverage over Biden from that. If they wanted to really play hardball to take him out of the 2024 race, they could either leak the incriminating documents, or indict him for removing them, or both.

  109. @Corvinus

    Steve’s biggest blind spot is that he is a hack for the Republican Party, generally speaking

    • Disagree: Jim Don Bob
  110. Mike Tre says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “I agree with the rest but not this part. I don’t think Steve is at all dishonest.”

    There is no other explanation for his refusal to concede being nearly 100% wrong on every facet of the Kovid debacle.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  111. Mike Tre says:
    @JimDandy

    Yet another example of how costly negro violence is, is very plainly how bad they are at killing people. The cost to care for surviving gunshot wound victims costs the City of Chicago (taxpayers) over 155 million dollars per year. If these victims were killed outright it would be a lot less expensive. Most of them are just as useless as the shooters are anyway.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  112. Guest007 says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    The shooter was Asian and supposedly mad at someone who was at the dance studio.

  113. @Pixo

    Robin Hanssen: Northwestern MBA, cryptography interest;

    Robert not Robin. I remember reading he had an amateur radio license, which apparently was cancelled by the FCC.

    K9QVL

    https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=tPQGbhyXd5lYLcD4P62hCg0MTQzJHmnSJhJLwVp8KqPlpNnJxTX5!-2019351399!-84967774?licKey=269819

    Licensee Name
    HANSSEN, ROBERT P
    9414 TALISMAN DR
    VIENNA, VA 22182

    Cancellation 02/26/2003

  114. Alden says:
    @Guest007

    Monterey Park shooter drove on to another town, Torrance, shot at more people cornered and shot dead by cops. Middle aged Asian man. Commie local congress critter Judy Chu on tv screeching about hate crime against Asians. Story will disappear in 2 days.

    6 year old kid in Newport News Va who shot White teacher is black special needs. Story already tossed. I think area is heavily military and retired military and government workers. AARs affirmative action retards.

  115. Alden says:
    @AnotherDad

    I gather you didn’t attend Little Rock Central High School with Eisenhower’s army shoving bayonets at you. To herd you into a black hell hole to be beaten and abused by savages.

    • Agree: Sam Hildebrand
    • Replies: @Pixo
    , @Hibernian
    , @AnotherDad
  116. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guest007

    4h ago / 3:31 PM CST
    Stop AAPI Hate: ‘This is devastating beyond words’

    Julianne McShane
    Stop AAPI Hate, which tracks and responds to violence, harassment and discrimination against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in the U.S., said in a tweet the Monterey Park mass shooting is “devastating beyond words.”

    The group characterized the shooting — which unfolded during the start of Lunar New Year — as the latest incident in a yearslong spike in anti-Asian violence.

    “Our community has faced so much tragedy and trauma over the last several years. This tremendous act of violence, on one of the most important days of the year for many Asian Americans, at a place where Asian American families come to gather and celebrate, is sending shockwaves through our community,” the statement said.

    Anti-Asian hate crimes increased by more than 330% from 2020 to 2021, and a report Stop AAPI Hate released last summer found that there had been almost 11,500 anti-Asian incidents since March 2020, the majority constituting harassment and less than 20% consisting of physical assaults.

    In March 2021, a shooter killed eight people — six of whom were Asian women — at Atlanta-area spas. The shooter is serving four life sentences after having pleaded guilty to four of the murders.

    Stop AAPI Hate also called for action to reduce gun violence and “prevent this from ever happening again.”

  117. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dmon

    As we learn more details about the Monterey Park shooting, @AAJA recommends newsrooms cover this tragedy w empathy while centering community stories, and with the context of the stress and anxiety the AAPI community has experienced the last three years. https://t.co/C433rY4TDP— Julia B. Chan (@juliachanb) January 22, 2023

    • Replies: @Dmon
  118. @AnotherDad

    yes perhaps we don’t even require the administrative state?

    Most people are honest. The feds are credited with disrupting the mafia but really the mafia was a small problem in a few cities while the administrative state is cancer messing in medicine, communications, elections, finance. foreign policy,

  119. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous

    That turned out to be one white trash family murdering another white trash family that was heavily involved in marijuana growing and cockfighting. To their minimal credit, the white trash murderers left the young children, including an infant, alone.

    A Mexican drug cartel just committed a similar family murder in Tulare County a week or two ago. They executed everyone on the property, including a 17-year-old girl who was found cradling her infant child. Both mother and infant were killed by a shot to the head.

  120. Wilkey says:

    Biden has just announced his replacement for departing Chief-of-Staff Ron Klain. It is Jeff Zients, who is Jewish, like Klain. Its overwhelming Jewishness continues to be an unremarked feature of the Biden Administration.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  121. @Wilkey

    Biden has just announced his replacement for departing Chief-of-Staff Ron Klain. It is Jeff Zients, who is Jewish, like Klain/…

    It is a responsible position, after all. Can’t have a gentile filling it.

  122. J.Ross says:

    Trump had harmless mementos, which he had every right to have since as President he could instantly declassify things. There never was a Trump documents issue, it was one more fake scandal from the lying deep state.
    Biden is a crook who sells assets and secrets to our enemies. His documents were not his to declassify and were almost certainly related to his criminal and destructive family business.

    • Agree: Kylie, Ron Mexico
  123. Hibernian says:
    @Jack D

    But he can’t tell the AG what to do directly like he can issue orders to military generals.

    For “can’t” substitute “shouldn’t.” FIFY

  124. Pixo says:
    @Alden

    So Ike should have ignored the mandate of an unanimous Supreme Court in Brown?

    Americans had multiple clear opportunities to vote for continued segregation: Thurmond in 48 and Wallace several times after. They didn’t even consistently elect segregationists in the South, e.g., Lyndon Johnson and Ralph Yarborough.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Wilkey
  125. Dmon says:
    @Jack D

    It’s California – not allowed to cook with gas, and those flimsy aluminum electric woks just don’t do the job like the old cast iron frying pans.

  126. mc23 says:
    @AnotherDad

    Look at what Edward Snowden did. An ordinary government IT contractor, basically self-taught. Downloaded over a million classified documents. Makes a mockery of our intelligence agencies competence at managing security of state documents. I will grant it seems they’re good at influencing domestic politics, lawfare and color revolutions.

  127. Fdr meant all eight of his limbs were handicapped

  128. Dmon says:
    @Anonymous

    The LA Times article I excerpted is also a classic illustration of why Richard Hanania is full of sh!t. There isn’t a single outright lie in the whole thing, but it manages to be completely and utterly dishonest. Pretending to be a factual news article, it omits the one absolutely known fact (the race of the shooter), in favor of propaganda, insinuation and misdirection.

    • Thanks: Inquiring Mind
  129. Hibernian says:
    @Alden

    Alden, you’re baaack!

    Among post WW2 Presidents, Eisenhower, Reagan, and GHW Bush were the worst, except for all the others.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  130. Hibernian says:
    @Pixo

    They didn’t even consistently elect segregationists in the South, e.g., Lyndon Johnson and Ralph Yarborough.

    Johnson was one until his ambition for higher office caused him to cahnge his mind.

  131. @New Dealer

    Jeffrey Zients, Biden’s new diversity hire for Chief of Staff!

    Thanks for mentioning Zients, New Dealer. Was thinking about this earlier.

    I don’t think you can read a whole lot into this. Obviously, president’s chief of staff is hugely prestigious job. Pretty much to pinnacle for these folks on the political hack track. So you’ll always have ambitious people willing to take the job. And no doubt there is–at this point–legit contention among Democrat movers+shakers about their elderly shabbos goy. (Though not Harris. Pretty certain there’s a consensus on her.)

    Still Biden–or at least Jill-to-power–has to take it as a good sign that the new COS is another Jewish guy. If a black woman was taking up the job, Biden would know for certain the newspaper stories about “incompetence” and “dysfunction” in the White House would soon be flooding in, followed by calls for Biden to announce he won’t run.

    So I’d say “not tossed under the bus … yet”.

  132. @Alden

    I gather you didn’t attend Little Rock Central High School with Eisenhower’s army shoving bayonets at you. To herd you into a black hell hole to be beaten and abused by savages.

    You are correct, Alden. I was living in a pleasant segregated neighborhood in Philadelphia–well Media–and as precocious as I am, I was not ready for HS in ’57.

    Eisenhower could have perhaps handled this better. But no man is going to have full foresight on everything. George Washington couldn’t have guessed that 200 years on there would be hostile disloyal people all over America’s ruling class.

    The real problem wasn’t even the top-level Brown result, but its ridiculous social “science” reasoning. If they’d just said “private individuals can do what they like, but the government isn’t in the race business”, we could have been spared busing, affirmative action, and taken a different better path.

    There was an out for Souther politicians to simply get out of the public education business. Do vouchers and let parents decide on schools. That would have taken some work, but would have been compliant–and we’d be in a way better place today. Instead, they kept their precious public schools, were forced to do integration … and a whole bunch of white parents then had to send their kids to private schools anyway. Talk about not serving your own voters.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  133. Wilkey says:
    @Pixo

    Americans had multiple clear opportunities to vote for continued segregation: Thurmond in 48 and Wallace several times after. They didn’t even consistently elect segregationists in the South…

    Most Americans didn’t live anywhere near large numbers of blacks, and never thought it was any concern of theirs. Those who did live in or near affected neighborhoods voted with their feet. Shaming by New York/corporate controlled mass media kept people from acknowledging their real feelings to the public and even to themselves, but where people choose to live reveals their hat people really think.

  134. @Hibernian

    Among post WW2 Presidents, Eisenhower, Reagan, and GHW Bush were the worst, except for all the others.

    GHW Bush was the worst–at least until Biden.

    Reagan’s amnesty–amnesty with real enforcement–was a disaster, which he should have had the foresight to see.

    But there is no excuse–none–for 1990 Immigration Act–basically signing the Democrats’ attack on America into law. Heck, Barbara Jordan–a legit black lesbian–heading the immigration reform commission a few years later, pointed out how destructive this was and had a bunch of superior recommendations.

    Only “Biden’s”–i.e. the administration with Biden’s name on it–and its open hostility to America, Open Borders is worse.

  135. AndrewR says:
    @Dumbo

    Puppets, sure, but harmless? Calling a puppet harmless necessarily implies that the people controlling him are harmless. And Biden and especially Zelenskyyyy have not used the limited autonomy they do have in a harmless manner

  136. @Mr. Anon

    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    You left out one category:

    C) Information that embarrasses or incriminates government officials or which would give people reason to question official government positions or narratives.

    That may actually account for a majority of classified information.

    Well… there’s that.

    By simple page count, though, it is almost certainly not a majority.

    A huge amount of stuff is classified. The general feeling among people with a lot of experience with classified materials is that way too much is classified, for the simple reason that it is much easier to declare something to be classified than it is to declassify it. And if you fail to classify something that you should have, you can be in a lot of trouble. But no one gets in trouble for over-classifying.

    So, the incentives are all in the direction of over-classifying.

    By the way, there is a legal doctrine of “classified from birth”: some information is classified even if no human ever declared it classified.

    Perhaps because my own experience was with technical material, what I saw struck me as fairly sane. Technical stuff that we worked out that an adversary could fairly easily work out for themselves was either not classified or classified at a very low level (e.g., only available to US citizens).

    But I suspect that my “category B” — the US government’s assessment of foreign actors and situations — is probably way over-classified. And that is probably what Trump and Biden have.

    The law should really be changed so that intent and reasonable likelihood of harm to the US are factors that have to be proven to get a criminal conviction. The law as written is very draconian: as the law is written, I think Biden is guilty of a felony and should go to federal prison.

    In reality, he is probably guilty of carelessness and stupidity.

    Which should be enough to deny him a security clearance and, of course, the White House.

    But not put him in jail.

    Of course, he won’t go to jail because he is one of the Cloud People.

    But “little people” have indeed gone to jail for less.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
  137. This document stuff strikes me as misdirection, Dems agree to take a serious look at these documents that probably aren’t much of anything to keep the heat off while the border is overrun by 300k illegal aliens every month. There are definitely hundreds of homes in the DC area that contain old ‘classified’ documents.

    -The only handicaps I might trust on that list are Gerald Ford and Ike, but I can’t decide if Ike was being scrupulously honest or sandbagging shamelessly. I wouldn’t believe Biden’s if you put a ‘1’ in front of it, and Trump might have been a 3 for a couple of months in the summer of ’89.

  138. @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan Mason asked:

    So what are the classified documents that Trump took…

    As President, Trump had the unilateral power to declassify documents.

    And, no, he did not need to follow procedures established by “Executive Order” by his predecessors.

    He was the Big Boss — Article II and all that.

    Biden did not have such power when he took the classified documents.

    Something you foreigners do not know anything about.

    Again, I do not think Biden really endangered the US with all this. I think he was just always stupid and is now senile.

    The US Deep State has simply decided to jettison him.

  139. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    He can pardon Hunter. But he can’t tell the AG what to do directly like he can issue orders to military generals.

    The President can’t necessarily issue orders to his generals. Trump ordered his generals to extract US forces from Syria, and they simply ignored him.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals

    Trump had again ordered the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria, imperilling America’s Kurdish allies and effectively handing control of the territory over to the Syrian government and Russian military forces.

    Imagine that! Ceding control of Syria to the Syrian government. Well, I never.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  140. @Mike Tre

    He just didn’t want to bring it up again. A simple “I was wrong” would have been enough though, yes.

  141. Unfortunately, Donald Quayle got nuked by the national press, but apparently, he was a scratch golfer and at a level he might’ve been a tour pro if he hadn’t had a day job…

  142. @Corvinus

    Corvinus, little buddy,

    Are you willing yet to condemn the sexual mutilation of children who are confused about their “gender”?

    And why are you so afraid to answer that question? Could it cause you to lose your job?

  143. @Jack D

    Jack D wrote to Coemgen:

    If the President calls up the AG and says “go easy on my Hunter”, the AG is supposed to tell him to take a hike.

    Aritle II, Section 1:

    The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

    The AG has to obey the President. If he does not want to, he can resign.

    Of course, you are the guy who falsely claimed::

    the USA, which is a country that was created by and only exists under its Constitution.

    This is profoundly bizarre: the most elementary fact in American legal history is that the Constitution was created eleven years after the US declared its independence.

    All Americans learn this in school.

    The Constitution did not create the US.

    Indeed, Article VI of the Constitution itself explicitly acknowledges that the United States existed prior to the writing of the Constitution
    :

    All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

    So I guess we should just assume that you know nothing about the US Constitution.

    Or the law.

    Which does raise the question of whether or not you are lying about claiming to be a shyster.

    Are you a complete fraud, Jack?

    • Thanks: Coemgen
  144. @scrivener3

    scrivener3 wrote to Jack D:

    If the President does not have authority over the AG who does? the mob when the AG finally goes so loose cannon it is unendurable?

    Prima facie, Jack D appears to be a fake posing as a lawyer.

    See here where Jack claimed:

    the USA, which is a country that was created by and only exists under its Constitution.

    Any actual lawyer would know that the Constitution itself (Article VI) explicitly addresses the fact that the United States existed prior to the writing of the Constitution.

    I strongly suspect Jack really does not know this because he is not really a lawyer.

    Of course, that would also mean he was sleeping through his US History and Civics classes, but quite a few students do that!

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  145. @PhysicistDave

    As President, Trump had the unilateral power to declassify documents.

    But he didn’t declassify the documents he had at home. If he had declassified these documents, then all hard copies of these documents and the digital copies would also be declassified and available to journalists and the public. That is why you have a process for declassifying documents and it does not just occur in the head of the president. Get it?

    In reality Trump would have to do very little work to declassify them. Probably all he would have to do would be to verbally tell a subordinate to get them declassified and it would be taken care of.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  146. George says:

    This list goes back to Taft. Were golf courses harder back then? Maybe they had fewer opportunities to play.

    Every Presidential Golfer Ranked by Handicap
    http://www.scga.org/blog/13174/every-presidential-golfer-ranked-by-handicap/

  147. @PhysicistDave

    Any actual lawyer would know that the Constitution itself (Article VI) explicitly addresses the fact that the United States existed prior to the writing of the Constitution.

    What was formerly known as the United Colonies was renamed the United States in Sept. 1776 and there was a transitional period while the Constitution was drafted, ratified, and put into operation in 1779, so technically you are correct.

    Today people overlook that transitional period.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  148. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Trump stands for what he is, namely a dark-moon-born golden brat rebelling against everything established around for him or otherwise, in no intention but to get and gather ever more. That’s how he made such fortunes he never cared to earn by any talent of his own beyond the chutzpah he has vaunted in his only book on the subject of his only art, if you would care to leaf through it however carelessly. Beware of the man of only one book, no matter the Qur’an or the Art of the Deal. Biden rather stands for the good schoolboy having been through the very same shady business school, doing no dirty tricks beyond clearly winked thereto by his superiors, resulting into some kind of un-flamboyant low-fat diet Trump. But make no mistake about it : all the frat boys of that alma mater never fail to team and scheme together beyond the closed doors. Political parties are for the goyim, though all it takes not to be of the goyim is a good initiation murder from time to time together with the frat.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
  149. @PhysicistDave

    There are tin-foilish explanations of why both Mr. Trump’s and Mr. Biden’s document handling is willful.

    In Mr. Trump’s case, the conspiracy theory is that he took documents disproving elements of both Russian Collusion and Trump Inciting January 6, perhaps as insurance, perhaps to bring down the Deep State once and for all when the time is right.

    In Mr. Biden’s case, the conspiracy theory is that he took documents to cover up his own venal corruption.

    Would a legal “reasonable person” consider that Ms. Clinton’s server saga could have been tied to influence-peddling mediated by the Clinton Foundation? It may not be true, but is such a thought tin-foil territory?

    In Sandy Berger’s stuffing papers from the National Archives down his pants, would a “reasonable person” believe it something to do with the Clinton’s wanting to sanitize their misdeeds of omission contributing to the 9-11 attacks? The Clintons pretty much invented “Media War Rooms” and “Spin Control” — essentially a zero-tolerance policy on even slightly negative media coverage.

    In Mr. Trump’s case, a competing theory to what I mention above is simply Mr. Trump’s ego, vanity and low-brow tastes as evidenced by those kitch “trading cards” he peddled recently. He wanted souvenirs.

    But is there the least bit of evidence of any deeper corrupt purpose on the part of Mr. Trump than wanting tokens of having once been the U.S. president? Mr. Trump appears to be the rare billionaire who seems to be satisfied that he has enough money.

    With Mr. Biden’s version of venal tackiness, isn’t there a hint that he indeed could have a corrupt purpose?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  150. TWS says:
    @Dr. DoomNGloom

    The Biden documents are simply, cash worthy bribe material. Wu Tang Dong pays Biden’s brother to sit on the board of his think tank. Biden’s brother uses Biden’s house and invites Wu Tang Dong to visit. Maybe some interesting documents accidentally get left on the dining room table. Everybody is happy.

    Works like a charm until you start using a crack-head son and you’re vice president with no legal right to have any classified documents at the home you rent to crack-head.

    The big guy’s ten percent means everyone gets rich including Old Donger. But Biden is not just damaged goods he’s simply not functional without stuka pills and physical directions.

  151. @Joe Stalin

    Hitchcock vibes in Kiev. Where’s Tippi Hedren when you need her?

    (And Mr Anne Appelbaum is apparently accusing the Polish Government of planning to partition Ukraine and get Galicia back).

  152. Lurker says:
    @Mike Tre

    Agree but . . .

    So they let him live, make him un reelectable

    I don’t think they would need to anything in that regard.

  153. @Francis Miville

    Good schoolboy?

    What have you been drinking, and can I have some?

  154. @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan Mason wrote to me:

    What was formerly known as the United Colonies was renamed the United States in Sept. 1776 and there was a transitional period while the Constitution was drafted, ratified, and put into operation in 1779, so technically you are correct.

    Jonny, you should probably not comment on US history, of which you are plainly abysmally ignorant.

    No: the Constitution was drafted in the summer of 1787 in Philadelphia. The government created under the Constitution went into operation in early 1789.

    So, the gap was 13 years, ten more than you claimed.

    And, no, no one familiar with American history “overlook[s] that transitional period.” It was the formative period of American history.

    You are not an American, so your abysmal ignorance is understandable.

    Jack D’s is not.

    For some reason, Jack D is faking it.

    We do not know the whole story, but somehow Jack D is not what he claims to be.

  155. @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan Mason wrote to me:

    [Dave] As President, Trump had the unilateral power to declassify documents.

    [Jonny] But he didn’t declassify the documents he had at home. If he had declassified these documents, then all hard copies of these documents and the digital copies would also be declassified and available to journalists and the public. That is why you have a process for declassifying documents and it does not just occur in the head of the president. Get it?

    Once again, Jonny, you are revealing your abysmal ignorance of American law, just as you did in your bizarrely false comments about the Constitution.

    Trump was not obligated to follow any specific procedures in declassifying the documents.

    Those procedures were established by Executive Order by his predecessors, and there is no provision in the Constitution that enables a previous President to bind his successors.

    And, no, when a document is declassified it does not thereby become available to journalists and the public.

    I worked for the US Intel Community back in the ’80s and ’90s: I actually know how this stuff works.

    You don’t.

    Do you ever get embarrassed pontificating on subjects of which you are completely ignorant?

    (That is a rhetorical question: quite obviously the answer is “No!”)

  156. @Inquiring Mind

    Inquiring Mind wrote to me:

    In Mr. Trump’s case, a competing theory to what I mention above is simply Mr. Trump’s ego, vanity and low-brow tastes as evidenced by those kitch “trading cards” he peddled recently. He wanted souvenirs.

    Probably. Or he was thinking about writing his memoirs. Or some vague combination of the above. People do things without thinking them through.

    IM also asked:

    With Mr. Biden’s version of venal tackiness, isn’t there a hint that he indeed could have a corrupt purpose?

    Maybe. But Ockham’s razor says a careless old man who thought the rules were for other people.

    The most interesting issue is the documents from his Senate years. I can grasp how a Vice-President might be allowed to have classified document outside a SCIF and then the documents get misplaced.

    But a Senator? Some Dem Senators are going on the record about how restrictive the rules are for Senators.

    So, that smells like Biden went to some trouble to break the rules as Senator.

  157. @PhysicistDave

    “And, no, he did not need to follow procedures established by “Executive Order” by his predecessors.”

    He had to follow some procedure, the system is unworkable otherwise.

    In order to prosecute somebody for mishandling classified documents the government has to prove that the documents were actually classified. Which would be impossible to do if Trump could declassify documents but not tell anybody.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  158. @Mr. Anon

    “…Trump ordered his generals to extract US forces from Syria, and they simply ignored him.”

    That happens a lot to people like Trump. Because they are disorganized and don’t pay attention to details and rarely follow up on (or even remember) the orders they have given. So their underlings routinely ignore directives they don’t like.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  159. Mr. Anon says:
    @James B. Shearer

    That happens a lot to people like Trump. Because they are disorganized and don’t pay attention to details and rarely follow up on (or even remember) the orders they have given. So their underlings routinely ignore directives they don’t like.

    Indeed. I’m not letting Trump off the hook for that. His biggest shortcoming is that he is a moron.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  160. @Dream

    Sure, your garden-variety local drug dealers will immediately move against any mayor or police chief who even suggests trimming their revenue stream, but the more sophisticated organizations will kidnap, rape, and torture their wives or kids sending the unmistakable message: “What The Fuck were you even thinking?

  161. @That Would Be Telling

    Sessions was fired because he has shit for brains. He MIGHT have been effective as DHS secretary, presuming he would have backed up his record of tough talk against ILLEGAL ALIENS with real action. As AG, however, he was a disaster waiting to happen. The “recusal” gave him an excuse to nap on the taxpayer’s dime for two years. Seriously, name me just ONE initiative he launched at DoJ during that whole time that benefitted the American citizenry? You can’t.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  162. Now they’ve found documents at Pence’s home. My guess is they’ll never find any at Kamala’s house because she has nothing to do with the workings of government. Or maybe the Deep Stste is trying to set her up as the pushover president.

  163. @PhysicistDave

    What Jack said applies to all the states except for the original States at the time of Independence. Florida, Texas, California, yes. They didn’t have that transitional period between Independence and the Constitution.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  164. @Mr. Anon

    Indeed. I’m not letting Trump off the hook for that. His biggest shortcoming is that he is a moron.

    I’m wondering if the Constitution ought to be amended to say that a President must be over 40 and under 70, be a natural born citizen of the US, and preferably not be a moron.

  165. @PhysicistDave

    No: the Constitution was drafted in the summer of 1787 in Philadelphia. The government created under the Constitution went into operation in early 1789.

    So, the gap was 13 years, ten more than you claimed.

    A 13 year gap. Well that changes everything.

    I don’t usually say this but you should try drugs.

    I don’t think sobriety works for you.

    You get way too worked up and should probably try edibles along with a prostitute.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  166. @Jonathan Mason

    The lying fraud Jonathan Mason wrote to me:

    What Jack said applies to all the states except for the original States at the time of Independence.

    That is a lie.

    Jack did not say that the some of the states were created by the Constitution.

    What Jack said was:

    the USA, which is a country that was created by and only exists under its Constitution.

    That is certainly, obviously and most assuredly false.

    The country known as the USA most certainly existed before the Constitution.

    That many of the states were created after the Constitution was enacted does not change that very basic historical fact.

    You are a fool.

    A lying fool.

    I am really sick of you, Jonny.

  167. @John Johnson

    The pathologically lying Fed John Johnson wrote to me:

    I don’t usually say this but you should try drugs.

    Anyone inclined to take this Fed seriously needs to look at this post in which he falsely and maliciously quoted me as having said something I simply did not say at all.

    What this lying bastard did was cut-and-pasted a statement posted by a White racist and falsely claimed that I had posted it.

    I pointed this out at the time.

    He did not retract it or admit what he did.

    John Johnson is a pathologically lying bastard.

    A typical Fed.

    Legally, the Fed committed libel. Open and shut.

    Does anyone think it is worth suing the bastard?

    I am going to start going back and attaching a version of this note to every post John Johnson has made.

    • LOL: Jonathan Mason
  168. @Jim Don Bob

    Amazing. I understand that classified documents have special covers, so they can easily be identified.

    It is becoming obvious that top officials have no respect for classified documents, and don’t give a toss if they have a few copies of the secret nuclear codes lying around in their garage that their Russian immigrant chauffeurs might lay hands on.

    Or perhaps they just think that classification of documents is civil service BS and should be ignored.

    Florida, and maybe other states, has no classification of State government documents and all government actions must be in the open. Of course the difference is that Florida is not responsible for national defense and the federal government is.

    So really the only documents that should be classified are those that relate to national intelligence and defense secrets.

    The best way to deal with this would be in the next round of presidential debates each candidate would be asked if they intended to take classified documents home and keep them in their garage and whether they agree that all presidential documents should be kept for the National archive.

    Those who wish to take classified documents home and keep them in their garage would be able to explain their rationale to the American people.

    Candidates should also be asked whether they intend to take classified documents and sell them to foreign agents.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  169. @Jonathan Mason

    I understand that classified documents have special covers, so they can easily be identified.

    Every secret document has a cover like this. The entire document is secret even if only one paragraph is secret. Secret documents must be locked in a safe even in a SCIF, and must be signed in and out. I worked as a contractor to the Feds for more than a few years, and it was made very clear to me that I could lose my clearance, and thus my job, if I screwed this up.

    So there is no excuse for being careless with secret documents.

    It is true that there is too much classification, but security people always err on the side of caution. I had a Top Secret clearance and what I saw was less than thrilling, but you have to get to TS/SCI to see the juicy stuff.

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