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From CNN:

Tucker Carlson’s top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in online forum

By Oliver Darcy, CNN Business

Updated 7:33 PM ET, Fri July 10, 2020

New York (CNN Business)Editor’s note: This article quotes racist, homophobic and sexist language, much of which has not been censored.

More like: Irreverent witticisms that undermine the Narrative.

The top writer for Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for years been using a pseudonym to post bigoted remarks on an online forum that is a hotbed for racist, sexist, and other offensive content, CNN Business learned this week.

… While working at Fox News, and while a reporter at The Daily Caller, Neff was a frequent poster on AutoAdmit. Also known as XOXOhth, it is a relatively unmoderated message board like 4chan aimed at lawyers and law school students in which racism and sexism run rampant.

… Neff, who posts on the board under the username CharlesXII, is widely revered on the forum, with many posters knowing the person behind the account works on Carlson’s show. He has spent years posting about history, offering his political opinions, and detailing aspects of his personal life.

After learning of Neff’s posts on the board through an email from an anonymous tipster, CNN Business was able to positively identify CharlesXII as Neff by reviewing messages he has posted throughout the years on the forum and matching them up with publicly available information about him.

Among the details which make clear that CharlesXII and Neff are the same person: CharlesXII indicated on the board that he had gone to Dartmouth; Neff is an alumnus. CharlesXII said he had been working for nearly four years in his current journalism job in Washington DC; Neff has been working for Carlson at Fox in Washington since February 2017, according to his LinkedIn profile, which appears to have been removed after his resignation from Fox News. CharlesXII said on the board that he got his start in journalism after he turned down law school and instead took a fellowship; Neff told the Dartmouth Alumni Magazine that he took a fellowship with the Collegiate Network.

CharlesXII also wrote a parody version of the song “We Didn’t Start The Fire” and posted about it on the board, including a screen shot of an email he received from Carlson praising a lyric in the song. Neff sang the parody song at a Daily Caller Christmas party a few years ago, according to a person familiar with the event.

The Daily Caller declined to comment.

And in a 2017 Washington Post Date Lab article featuring Neff, he dropped a number of Easter eggs for the board, including referencing an “alcohol is poison” meme that he has repeatedly posted about and carrying a book on Catherine the Great to a date. His username on the forum, CharlesXII, is a reference to Charles XII of Sweden …

Even more clearly identifying, however, were photos that CharlesXII posted to the forum in 2018 to the forum after visiting a museum in Egypt. In three of the photos, a reflection of Neff is visible snapping the pictures in the artifacts’ glass enclosures.

 
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  1. Tucker’s next piece will be written by Henry VIII’s Cat.

  2. The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Alarmist


    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?
     
    Sadly, no. What the article promises at the outset and what it actually delivers are two completely different things.

    Every time I come across one of these, "Look who's terrible now !1!!1!" articles, I am first given the impression by the author that, should I choose to risk my morals and reputation by insisting on reading further, I can fully expect to see photographs of the alleged miscreant heading up concentration camp selections, pushing pensioners off cliffs, slashing proposed NHS budgets, and so forth.

    (You know, the sorts of things that are guaranteed to scar one's eyeballs.)

    What I invariably get, however, is thin gruel, indeed. The material the author insists is going to send so-and-so on a one-way journey to the Nether Regions generally consists of relatively mild remarks of the sort that just about anyone who believes in telling the truth is bound to make sooner or later.

    The lesson I have learned from these witch-duckings is that what you actually said is not important. What is important is what the person making the accusations feels you said, see?

    After all, these are people for whom feelings, not facts, are paramount. That the alleged unforgivable atrocities turned out, once again, to be not much of anything surprises me a lot less than my embarrassing susceptibility to these pointless exercises in self-righteousness.

    I mean, these tinpot Stalins are so dull-witted they don't even know how to make backstabbing gossip interesting. How lame is that?

    (On the plus side, if these plonkers continue this routine of promising much but delivering little, it won't be long until everyone gets bored and starts tuning them out. So there's that.)
    , @El Dato
    @The Alarmist

    "This article betrays several untreated psychological problems of the author and freely expresses liberal-fascist opinions, much of which has not been censored."

    , @ben tillman
    @The Alarmist


    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?
     
    for those who haven't clicked the link, the first (and presumably most-damning) quote is one in which Neff says he would not get Lasik surgery under any circumstances. How racist & bigoted!!!!

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @The Alarmist

    It's interesting the article starts not by noting some comment of Neff's but by noting the title of a thread he posted to. Guilt by association. (Tiny Duck and Corvinus should keep this in mind!) Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  3. Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very “Diverse” neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There’s an old saying that when any society’s women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    • Agree: Icy Blast
    • Replies: @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    , @Jesse
    @Blackpilled American

    Gee, I can't IMAGINE why your side keeps losing. Like, for decades at a time. It's just mindboggling as to why your fellow Whites hate you so much.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    , @JohnPlywood
    @Blackpilled American

    White women never had any more "feminine graces" than your average Kenworth truck does. They were always inwufferable bull dykes.

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Blackpilled American

    What triggered you into that diatribe against women?

    , @3g4me
    @Blackpilled American

    @3 Blackpilled American: Laura Ingraham adopted two mestizo children from central America and is raising them as a proud single mother. Yes, yes, her fiance dumped her when she had breast cancer, but that is irrelevant to her prior and subsequent choices. She chose to focus on her career before family, and she chose to adopt inter-racially. So she's just like all the Sailer readers - sorta race-realist but with 'muh character' exceptions - which means melting pot civ nattery, which means clownworld.

    Replies: @dr kill

    , @Anon
    @Blackpilled American

    If society keeps producing tough white women, that's because only tough white woman are able to pass on their genes. It's Darwin at work. If you want a dainty, delicate, polite woman to marry, the man who bonds with her is going to have to do all the heavy lifting in the marriage. He's going to have to be the sole money-earner so she can stay home to raise the kids and be protected against the coarsening effects of working life, and he's going to have to pass on enough cash to his delicate kids so that they can reproduce while they're still young. They have to have trust funds paying them enough to support a family while they're still young enough to reproduce, in their twenties or so. Inheriting in their 60s after a hard life struggling doesn't cut it. They need that money in their 20s so they can get a family going.

    Darwinian survival means enough resources need to be passed onto the kids when it matters, not just in their childhood, but in their young adulthood so they can get a leg up over their peers in competition. The WASP class that dominated America for so long knew this, and didn't throw their young into the ocean and tell them to swim. It carefully steered, educated, gave jobs to, and gave cash to their young adults so they were well-positioned in life. This is how and why the WASP caste kept itself in power so long. The British nobility and elite classes gave their youngsters blatant advantages for centuries, and that's how the elite stayed elite.

    A philosophy that it's good to throw your young to the wolves is coming from your enemies. Yes, you'll have some strong kids here and there that survive the wolves, but many will slide back down the social ladder, and they'll have trouble forming families. The low reproduction rate of our white higher classes vs. black ghetto rats is a testimony to that.

    Darwin doesn't care for nice. Darwin cares about what survives. Yes, being strong means you'll survive, but so does being clever. Clever people don't throw their kids to the wolves in hopes that somehow, their offspring will survive the process. If they think their offspring need toughening up, they enroll their kids in the armed forces. Joining the army has been used for centuries by the elite for turning your offspring into leaders and toughening them up. In fact, it used to be expected that elites would do a stint in the army to improve their mettle. Clever people understand that leaders need training, not being kicked off a cliff and told to cope with what happens afterwards.

    Do you know why the US used to have better presidents? Because many of them had done a stint in the army. Military service was expected of them. It taught character, command, mental toughness, and honor.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Blackpilled American


    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable.

     

    Outside of Eastern Europe and most of Southeast Asia (maybe also Latin America), this change has been global. White-American women aren't especially unique. You'll find these same changes in women from Western Europe, the Middle East, East Asia, and South Asia.... Well, except the "tramp stamp." That seems mostly confined to the West.

    If it makes you feel better, you'll find that other Anglo women (British, Aussie, Kiwi) are probably even worse. Other than maybe France, raging feminism is the norm across the entire West.

    East Asia has its own version of raging feminism, if perhaps a bit more subdued. The Middle East and South are pretty conservative in many respects (family-based, religious, marriage-oriented), but the women are huge shrews and battle axes. In many respects, worse than White-American women. As for non-white women in America, I'd say Blacks are worse, while other races aren't significantly better.

    Lots of White nationalist men like to go off to Eastern Europe (especially Russia). Though even there, you're dealing with women who are very cunning and untrustworthy. Femme fatales.
    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Blackpilled American

    I happen to like tramp stamps.

    , @Corvinus
    @Blackpilled American

    "Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable."

    Are you Whiskey's illegitimate child?

  4. Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    , @scrivener3
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    One clear lesson is don't publish on another person's platform: blogspot, wordpress.com, facebook, twitter, Instagram.

    They are private companies and can do as they wish without discussion explanation or consistency.

    Self publishing is different. Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process. Most root name servers in the national domains (the two letter domains like CH or DE) are run by their respective governments and could ignore ICANN as to any policy. Every domain works worldwide on the Internet so it may be harder to publicize a .CC domain than a .COM but a .CC works just as well.

    In fact every controversial site should register an alternate domain in another jurisdiction entirely and put a link to it in their header or on every page for all users to bookmark. Should they ever be unpersoned by Verisign (the .COM registry) all readers could access the site from the alternate domain immediately.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    Good points. I would add that AutoAdmit is currently under what looks to be pre-planned assault where old and discarded but scandalous or offensive threads are being bumped to the top of the homepage by anonymous lurker accounts in order to give new visitors—who will be many on account of the Tucker story—the impression that the site is much "worse" than it really is. These are not necessarily even threads that Tucker's writer was on. It's just a guilt-by-association mass effort.

    Anyhow, the site's owner is taking some countermeasures. He correctly discerns that as the Left's war against free speech advances, destruction of anonymity will be a key front.


    As posts age beyond one week, they will no longer publicly display your moniker. We can see how well a one-week period works and adjust if necessary. I might offer an option to opt-out of this feature later, but for now it will apply to everyone by default.
    I will also open up the ability to replace old accounts with new accounts.

    Anonymity is more important than ever, and we'll adapt for the times.
     
    http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4581874&mc=244&forum_id=2

    I see from his post upthread that Ron is sanguine about doxxers coming for Unzitariat, but should he reconsider, the AutoAdmit guy's ideas are good ones.
    , @Hibernian
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    A long time ago (7-15 years) the Volokh Conspiracy was a place of relatively open debate; then it was wrecked this way, not with doxxing AFAIK, but with leftist disruption and Mr. Volokh slowly caving to the disruptors as far as his moderation policy was concerned. I recall this being followed by the site going behind a paywall.

    There clearly is a fairly sophisticated private intel operation aimed at free expression on the Internet and in TV and radio, also connected to controlling who can be appointed to appointed executive and judicial posts, and to election campaigns as well.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

  5. Operational Security includes the things you post online. There are no safe spaces

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @PseudoNhymm

    Not as catchy as "Loose lips sink ships," but true nevertheless.

    , @Neuday
    @PseudoNhymm

    A no-log VPN and protonmail are your friends.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  6. anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @anonymous

    The new generation of Murdoch’s aren’t terribly conservative. One brother and his wife are openly liberal. The one that runs Fox isn’t liberal but he still doesn’t want to be a pariah among the elite class. If corporate America can demand the Redskins change their name they certainly won’t advertise on a network where white nationalism is pushed to the side. Look what they’re doing to Facebook because they wouldn’t delete a Trump post?

    , @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    He has no control over HR at a massive public company. The discrimination lawsuits are the intense focus of executives, legal and, increasingly, marketing. Legal fees are an enormous open ended expense.

    Hence all the settlements for fairly obvious frauds and shakedowns, with an attendant magical desire to outsource so much work to Salt Lake City etc.

    , @Barnard
    @anonymous

    Tucker is trying to stay on FOX, I am not sure I really understand why. The mob is going to force him out eventually and it is not like there is a long term future in cable news anyway. The average viewer is a senior citizen who still has a cable TV bundle. If Tucker isn't already working making a transition to an online only presence he controls, he should be? I doubt he would lose much of his audience.

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @ATBOTL
    @anonymous

    Tucker Carlson is just Rush Limbaugh 2.0. His job is to keep you on the GOP plantation. It's the same schtick, he just changes "freedom" to "nationalism." Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation. Anyone else remember his clownish bowtie boy neocon act from the 90's? He was a smarmy idiot mindlessly parroting globalization era establishment talking points.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Henry's Cat
    @anonymous

    You expect Carlson - with the highest rated show in cable news' history - to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable - heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Boomer Lives Matter

    , @Dan Hayes
    @anonymous

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker's behavior should prove if he's just another flash in the pan.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @a guy named me
    @anonymous

    once he concedes, right or wrong, the left will smell blood. It's beginning of the 'Glenn Beckoning" of him.

  7. I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    Fred MacMurray’s character in Double Indemnity is named Walter Neff.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool, @syonredux

    , @Anonymous
    @HammerJack

    Neff is a pretty conservative Catholic from his posts, not one of the Tribe.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack


    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?
     
    It's an English surname, seen in the colonies. Mary Corliss Neff was one of a trio who killed ten little Indians in their sleep. She and her employer were taught by an English boy whom the Abenaki thought had assimilated to them. Their mistake!


    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Corliss-4

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Duston

    Massacre on the Merrimack: Hannah Duston's Captivity and Revenge in Colonial America

    Puritans Among the Indians: Accounts of Captivity and Redemption...

    Early Encounters: Native Americans and Europeans in New England

    I wonder if there are statues to Mary, Hannah, and Samuel in Haverhill or elsewhere. Better stand guard!


    Yes, there are!!

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21105
    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21104


    "Hatchet Hannah" is a bobblehead:

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/blog/hatchet-hannah-bobble-head/

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/ma/MAHAVduston_bobble_nhhistory.jpg

    Replies: @anon

  8. Unless it’s a big help for you with professional connections, etc., don’t join even LinkedIn, much less Facebook or heaven forbid, MySpace. That deal with the reflections in the pictures was very poor op-sec. Why not just use an image off Bing, if possible, or be careful at least*?

    The fact is, though, if a guy that knew Mr. Neff wrote the email to get him in trouble, I’m sure he could get enough general information off his comments to dox him with, though maybe not to the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard for a court of law, were there a jury of his peers (haha).

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don’t need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, “sexist”, “bigoted”, “homophobic”, and “racist” are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.

    .

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer? Could a computer-guy here answer that one for me?

    I guess one could just print-screen on the computer, then work on it. I know this is extreme paranoia, and only a top-notch government agency (like those shown in Jason Bourne movies – see also Part 2 and Part 3) would be up for matching the info to a phone, hence ID information.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman


    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don’t need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, “sexist”, “bigoted”, “homophobic”, and “racist” are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.
     
    Yep, and that's why they are nothing more than Lynch Mobs. They may as well start waving nooses at people.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?
     
    It depends. If the originating device codes the metadata containing the phone ID, location, etc. that data travels with the image and its copies unless it is actively stripped out later. That can be done in Windows or purpose written image-editing software.
    , @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman


    do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?
     
    This photo has exif data including GPS data...

    https://exposingtheinvisible.org/ckeditor_assets/pictures/32/content_example_ibiza.jpg

    A photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the location and time it was taken, and the type of device it was taken with, but there is no unique identifier for the phone or camera per se.

    For example, unless the exif data was altered, the above photo was taken with an iphone 4 on September 4, 2011.

    This is the GPS data I found embedded in that .jpg using exiftool...

    GPS Altitude : 0 m Above Sea Level
    GPS Date/Time : 2011:09:04 11:07:47Z
    GPS Latitude : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N
    GPS Longitude : 1 deg 26' 19.20" E
    GPS Position : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N, 1 deg 26' 19.20" E

    https://exiftool.org/

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiftool

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exif

    https://www.pic2map.com/

    If you're looking to determine the unique camera from which a photo was taken then you're talking about something called Photo Response Non Uniformity. Photo Response Non Uniformity has been used for Source Camera Identification. That is a little more complicated than reading exif data...

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Your-phones-camera-has-a-unique-ID-you-never-knew-about_id87786

    And here is a paper that explores different methods of image source anonymization. Evidently a Photo Response Non Uniformity pattern can be transferred from one image to another for malicious use or deception...

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ACEE5532-D0FE-9AA7-170A92520C7C0321_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    Interestingly, whatever photo editing software the staff of PeakStupidity is using to resize images is stripping most the photos of most of their exif data. I did find some data in the pizza photo. It informs me that the device on which that photo was taken is associated with an apple profile that was created on July 7, 2017. There is no GPS data in the pizza photo.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @syonredux
    @Achmed E. Newman

    A 20 or 30 something not having a linkedin page is a sign to most employers that the person is hiding something. It is seen as a red flag to possible employers. In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Hibernian

  9. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    If you read the article closely the most racist thing they find is that he posted on a thread where someone said n****4.

    One other funny thing to point out is that the head of the ADL’s internet censorship division is a woman named Brittan Heller, who sued AutoAdmit over mean comments some posters made about her in 2007. Her husband, Nathaniel Gleicher, is the head of cybersecurity policy at (((Facebook))).

    • LOL: Lowe
    • Replies: @Cato
    @Anonymous

    From AutoAdmit:


    according to the hollywood reporter article

    "[poster], as recent as this week, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" CNN reported that Neff responded to the post, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.""

    and

    " [poster]'s post also called out Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — writing that the group wants to "MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES.""

     

    As noted on AutoAdmit, the first comment was misunderstood as dissing Asians, when it was actually about LASIK. The second comment is not what one would call "racist", perhaps a bit insensitive.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Roger, @Mr. Anon

  10. @PseudoNhymm
    Operational Security includes the things you post online. There are no safe spaces

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday

    Not as catchy as “Loose lips sink ships,” but true nevertheless.

  11. @Achmed E. Newman
    Unless it's a big help for you with professional connections, etc., don't join even LinkedIn, much less Facebook or heaven forbid, MySpace. That deal with the reflections in the pictures was very poor op-sec. Why not just use an image off Bing, if possible, or be careful at least*?

    The fact is, though, if a guy that knew Mr. Neff wrote the email to get him in trouble, I'm sure he could get enough general information off his comments to dox him with, though maybe not to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a court of law, were there a jury of his peers (haha).

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don't need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, "sexist", "bigoted", "homophobic", and "racist" are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.


    .

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer? Could a computer-guy here answer that one for me?

    I guess one could just print-screen on the computer, then work on it. I know this is extreme paranoia, and only a top-notch government agency (like those shown in Jason Bourne movies - see also Part 2 and Part 3) would be up for matching the info to a phone, hence ID information.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Adam Smith, @syonredux

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don’t need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, “sexist”, “bigoted”, “homophobic”, and “racist” are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.

    Yep, and that’s why they are nothing more than Lynch Mobs. They may as well start waving nooses at people.

  12. Recently I tried to find out how an old amour of mine was doing who’s not exactly computer literate or careful with who she provides with her information, and the only things I was able to glean was that she had tried to buy second hand furniture and liked recipes. And I’m pretty good at the old internet sleuth act.

    Then when I called her up she had the balls to be disappointed that I hadn’t stalked her better. Anyway, a dissident in a Stalinist industry such as show business should hang his head in shame to fail at what 40 year old mommy does without thinking about it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @kihowi


    Then when I called her up she had the balls ...
     
    See, now that's your problem. You're much better off without her/him.
    , @Mikey D.
    @kihowi

    Most people just dont bother. I use fake names and have about 10 random e-mails for different sites.

    I can't pull up anything if I try to look for myself using a search engine, not even a facebook account that I barely use. Which you would think is, because my last name is incredibly rare.

    I don't have a twitter or any other social media accounts, so maybe that has something to do with it. I prefer anonymous chat boards where I can change my name on a whim.

  13. Summa y’all confusing OPSEC for PERSEC. Related, but not the same thing.

    • LOL: El Dato
  14. With such glee CNN pushes the knife into freedom of expression.

    Compare this to the lyrics of the “Black National Anthem” which the NFL is threatening to bless us at national events: lyrics of God, liberty, and native lands. Good stuff, if only we could have it.

  15. @HammerJack
    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Fred MacMurray’s character in Double Indemnity is named Walter Neff.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    @Hhsiii

    OT but MacMurray is iSteve's doppelganger.

    , @syonredux
    @Hhsiii

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vZy9ra8kdM

  16. Ed says:
    @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    The new generation of Murdoch’s aren’t terribly conservative. One brother and his wife are openly liberal. The one that runs Fox isn’t liberal but he still doesn’t want to be a pariah among the elite class. If corporate America can demand the Redskins change their name they certainly won’t advertise on a network where white nationalism is pushed to the side. Look what they’re doing to Facebook because they wouldn’t delete a Trump post?

  17. anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    This should be a reality check for how people handle themselves online, including how Unz.com displays comment histories.

    One of the best features about Unz is the ability to post anonymously. It’s funny that some posters will take offense to this, meanwhile if you go through their comment histories for an hour, you could find enough personal tidbits to narrow their identity down to <100 IRL individuals.

    We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features — estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.

    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @anonymous


    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so.
     
    No. People who write many/extensive comments under a recognizable handle presumably aren’t doing it to have those comments disappear into the aether. Content-wise, it would be as stupid as having Steve’s blog posts also disappear after six months. I often cite old comments by myself and others; it cuts down on having to rewrite points over and over, and it holds regulars accountable to their rhetoric over time (i.e., it’s harder to bullshit readers). But if you’re worried, stay “anonymous”.
    , @Colin Wright
    @anonymous

    'Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.'

    It's hard to think of a legitimate reason why it should be available for longer than that.

    , @SafeNow
    @anonymous

    “We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features — estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.”

    Wouldn’t it foil the algorithm (and human) if one were to periodically include false information, false clues?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Known Fact

  18. @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @scrivener3, @Almost Missouri, @Hibernian

    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    I really tend to doubt that…

    Frankly, I’d never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the “horrific” comments he’d written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from “the Lord Voldemort Effect,” namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can’t be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the “horrific” things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    • Thanks: Bubba, Stan d Mute, Charlotte
    • Replies: @Bobbocio
    @Ron Unz

    For now.

    Who knows what MSM's policy will be tomorrow?

    Replies: @bomag

    , @HarvardMan
    @Ron Unz

    Sorry Mr. Unz, but this reveals a level of delusion about just where we are as a society that you really shouldn't engage in as a prominent dissident figure. Maybe they won't write a nasty hit-piece about this place, but they'll certainly make it impossible for you to host your website, or pay your bills, or whatever extra-judicial means they see fit to silence you.

    I sincerely hope you're planning for the day when you log on only to be greeted by a big 404 splash page and a hosting company that refuses to take your calls. It's coming, very soon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Ron Unz

    Hope so, Ron.

    Some of us have a lot riding on that Voldemort thingie holding firm.

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Ron Unz

    Well, you would say that, wouldn't you?

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Ron Unz

    Might your intent be seen as trying to bring the ordinary media's shadow into the light, and allow it to be healthily integrated?

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Ron Unz

    The Neff thing seems highly goal-seeked and overplayed to me. It seems like CNN desperately wanted to hurt Tucker (and why wouldn't they?--he smokes them in the nightly news ratings), so they did a bunch of opposition research on his staff and this was the most they could come up with. Even this material needs to be exaggerated and falsified to make it look worse than it is.

    I'm not sure what adequate protection there can be for any individual once the whole national culture has adopted the ethics of some pissy high school social circle where people can and will get chucked out for nasty and trivial reasons.

    Someday the adults will be back in charge, after the children have ruined everything. In the meantime, while everybody must take care to protect himself, I would recommend speaking your mind and having the courage of your convictions. There is no telling how these things will shake out. If you have been making an honest effort to speak the truth for years, it may just be that your legacy will come to your aid when you least expect it. Even those who are down now, like Neff, may be up again tomorrow. There are more things in heaven and earth, etc.

    , @anon
    @Ron Unz

    You're only discussing the national media, which has doxxed a handful of people.

    The vast majority of doxxing is people directly contacting employers via Twitter and getting them fired. Once this information shows up in a basic Google search for someone's name, their career is over, unless they are in a few industries and locales.

    , @prime noticer
    @Ron Unz

    " anything you write here is probably safe"

    a really stupid and dangerous position.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Ron Unz

    Even if you are right (which I kind of doubt), it would still be nice for you to offer the chance for us to replace our email sign-in names and/or IP addresses. It really couldn't be very much work for you, and as I noted before some of us used real emails for whatever reasons.

    Also, your website purports to allow us to make our user post history unavailable....


    (Commenters may request that their archives be hidden by contacting the appropriate blogger)
     
    ...but when I tried this, nothing happened.
    , @botazefa
    @Ron Unz

    Ron - what would you do if you got a subpoena for email addresses of participants here?

    What if Patreon got a subpoena?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Almost Missouri

    , @Ozymandias
    @Ron Unz

    You couldn't be more wrong, Ron. There's already a scandal underway from an Unz doxxing. Some guy that Kris Kobach hired to file paperwork has been revealed to post at Unz.com. Kobach fired him, but a rival PAC is about to launch a multimillion dollar ad-blitz trying to smear Kobach as a racist who hires Unz posters.

    It's a comin'.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @MEH 0910

  19. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist
    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I'm still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff's lynching. Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @ben tillman, @Chrisnonymous

    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?

    Sadly, no. What the article promises at the outset and what it actually delivers are two completely different things.

    Every time I come across one of these, “Look who’s terrible now !1!!1!” articles, I am first given the impression by the author that, should I choose to risk my morals and reputation by insisting on reading further, I can fully expect to see photographs of the alleged miscreant heading up concentration camp selections, pushing pensioners off cliffs, slashing proposed NHS budgets, and so forth.

    (You know, the sorts of things that are guaranteed to scar one’s eyeballs.)

    What I invariably get, however, is thin gruel, indeed. The material the author insists is going to send so-and-so on a one-way journey to the Nether Regions generally consists of relatively mild remarks of the sort that just about anyone who believes in telling the truth is bound to make sooner or later.

    The lesson I have learned from these witch-duckings is that what you actually said is not important. What is important is what the person making the accusations feels you said, see?

    After all, these are people for whom feelings, not facts, are paramount. That the alleged unforgivable atrocities turned out, once again, to be not much of anything surprises me a lot less than my embarrassing susceptibility to these pointless exercises in self-righteousness.

    I mean, these tinpot Stalins are so dull-witted they don’t even know how to make backstabbing gossip interesting. How lame is that?

    (On the plus side, if these plonkers continue this routine of promising much but delivering little, it won’t be long until everyone gets bored and starts tuning them out. So there’s that.)

  20. I knew this was nothing when, of all the supposedly hundreds of offensive comments, the ones in the article were so bland.

    I’d like to be a fly on the wall to conversations of left-wing journalists, black protesters, black anyone, Democratic politicians.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I’d like to be a fly on the wall to conversations of left-wing journalists, black protesters, black anyone, Democratic politicians.
     
    Hmmm... How bout this?

    https://youtu.be/80V7ouySP48

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. On the flip side I guess that means there’s a vacancy. Why don’t you send in your CV, Steve?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Inselaffen


    On the flip side I guess that means there’s a vacancy. Why don’t you send in your CV, Steve?
     
    Get real! The slot that just opened up at Tucker. That plum job is going to a POC or a lesbian bull dyke. Can you imagine if the tptb at Fox forced Tucker to hire a trans-whatever to make Tucker bullet proof? Stranger things have happened.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  22. Eric Topol, a prominent medical scientist, published on Twitter the email address of a person who had responded to a post of his in a profane manner. He did this at the suggestion of another Twitter poster, so it was entirely purposeful. This is apparently a double violation of Twitter’s policy on behavior. Dr. Topol is a critic of early Covid treatment with hydroxychloroquine. The media’s attempt to suppress early Covid treatment is a crime against humanity.

    See James Todaro’s Twitter https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Scroll down.

  23. I love how they go all “Woodward and Bernstein” on off-hand remarks and jokes everybody makes, regardless of how ancient:

    (Parody): “In one forum, a meme was circulated in which a doctored (gasp!) image of an African American woman discussing the unavailability of culturally specific hair enhancers (weave lady). In another sub-forum, several posters made disparaging remarks about a different African American female for referring to government subsidies for cell phone service widely used in disadvantaged communities (Obama phone lady).”

    Did CNN “report” his address? They would if they could.

  24. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    He has no control over HR at a massive public company. The discrimination lawsuits are the intense focus of executives, legal and, increasingly, marketing. Legal fees are an enormous open ended expense.

    Hence all the settlements for fairly obvious frauds and shakedowns, with an attendant magical desire to outsource so much work to Salt Lake City etc.

  25. Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.

    blackpill is confused about the meanings of the words realist and truth.

  26. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @gate666


    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.
     
    There's a good chance she regrets both. Many people have made terrible mistakes when it comes to personal relationships. It doesn't make then unworthy of admiration. Purity spiraling is a path to failure.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @gate666

    But who stoutly defends those who do.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @gate666


    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.
     
    As Almost Missouri, pointed out, she resolutely defends those that to. Not every single white woman has to marry and have children. If she did have children, perhaps she would be more circumspect in what she says, fearing that she might damage their life prospects. As an unattached woman, she is at more liberty to tell it like it is.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Dennis Dale
    @gate666

    We would be idiots to reject anyone on such grounds.

    Hello right back at ya, Fellow Concerned White!

    , @Patrick Boyle
    @gate666

    I'll probably get a lot of flack for this speculation. But first let me assure you that I love Ann Coulter. I had an employee who kept telling me to marry her - she was available he said. But maybe not.

    She may be a guy. Tall attractive women with good skin sometimes have AIS (Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome). Pretty women without kids are often accused of it. Jamie Lee Curtis is one who is often thought to have this condition.

    It arises because all embryos start off looking female but some have XY chromosomes and in utero secrete testosterone which bring about the male characteristics. But some embryonic males with AIS resist those T juice changes and continue to look like females after birth and into adulthood.

    It is thought (mostly by scandal sheet tabloids not doctors) that a lot of models and movie stars have this condition. In the past it was said that brothels like such people as prostitutes because they were pretty and couldn't get pregnant. I have no way of knowing if this is true. It does seem likely to be true that they tend to be tall and slim.

  27. @The Alarmist
    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I'm still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff's lynching. Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @ben tillman, @Chrisnonymous

    “This article betrays several untreated psychological problems of the author and freely expresses liberal-fascist opinions, much of which has not been censored.”

  28. @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @scrivener3, @Almost Missouri, @Hibernian

    One clear lesson is don’t publish on another person’s platform: blogspot, wordpress.com, facebook, twitter, Instagram.

    They are private companies and can do as they wish without discussion explanation or consistency.

    Self publishing is different. Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process. Most root name servers in the national domains (the two letter domains like CH or DE) are run by their respective governments and could ignore ICANN as to any policy. Every domain works worldwide on the Internet so it may be harder to publicize a .CC domain than a .COM but a .CC works just as well.

    In fact every controversial site should register an alternate domain in another jurisdiction entirely and put a link to it in their header or on every page for all users to bookmark. Should they ever be unpersoned by Verisign (the .COM registry) all readers could access the site from the alternate domain immediately.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @scrivener3


    Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process.
     
    Can you explain VDARE's recent domain registry crisis, then?

    Replies: @scrivener3

  29. The one advantage to being a nobody, living in flyover country, working for a boss who’s a big trump guy. Nobody alive could possibly care about me. Plus this is unz, nobody can admit unz even exists. If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.
    Tucker is going to do what is prudent for him. I respect his decisions. But it would be totally B.A. if he just quit. Cable Tv is dead.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Kyle

    An addendum; I don’t post as “anon123” on this blog because in a self destructive Freudian sense, deep down in my subconscious I want to be doxxed.

    , @MarkinLA
    @Kyle

    It would be great if Tucker showed how insignificant the posts were and called on Fox to rehire him. Of course Tucker would be fired.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Kyle


    If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.
     
    Unz.com: the site that dare not speak its name.

    (Am I the only one who finds the "Lord Voldemort Effect" hilarious? There is something about posting on a website that is just too far gone that holds infinite appeal [to me, anyway].)

    I wonder if there are any leftist euphemisms for unz.com floating around? I expect referring to it as "that website" (or perhaps "the website"?) would get tedious rather quickly.
  30. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    For now.

    Who knows what MSM’s policy will be tomorrow?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Bobbocio


    Who knows what MSM’s policy will be tomorrow?
     
    Indeed.

    Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Kratoklastes

  31. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    Gee, I can’t IMAGINE why your side keeps losing. Like, for decades at a time. It’s just mindboggling as to why your fellow Whites hate you so much.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Jesse

    Hello, fellow Unz poster.

  32. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Sorry Mr. Unz, but this reveals a level of delusion about just where we are as a society that you really shouldn’t engage in as a prominent dissident figure. Maybe they won’t write a nasty hit-piece about this place, but they’ll certainly make it impossible for you to host your website, or pay your bills, or whatever extra-judicial means they see fit to silence you.

    I sincerely hope you’re planning for the day when you log on only to be greeted by a big 404 splash page and a hosting company that refuses to take your calls. It’s coming, very soon.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @HarvardMan

    A Harvard man, eh? That is so cool and interesting. What years did you study there? What was your major? Did you take advantage of any of the school's many social clubs? Did your friends give you any funny nicknames?

    , @Richard B
    @HarvardMan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2qcbu26gs

  33. @Achmed E. Newman
    Unless it's a big help for you with professional connections, etc., don't join even LinkedIn, much less Facebook or heaven forbid, MySpace. That deal with the reflections in the pictures was very poor op-sec. Why not just use an image off Bing, if possible, or be careful at least*?

    The fact is, though, if a guy that knew Mr. Neff wrote the email to get him in trouble, I'm sure he could get enough general information off his comments to dox him with, though maybe not to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a court of law, were there a jury of his peers (haha).

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don't need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, "sexist", "bigoted", "homophobic", and "racist" are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.


    .

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer? Could a computer-guy here answer that one for me?

    I guess one could just print-screen on the computer, then work on it. I know this is extreme paranoia, and only a top-notch government agency (like those shown in Jason Bourne movies - see also Part 2 and Part 3) would be up for matching the info to a phone, hence ID information.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Adam Smith, @syonredux

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?

    It depends. If the originating device codes the metadata containing the phone ID, location, etc. that data travels with the image and its copies unless it is actively stripped out later. That can be done in Windows or purpose written image-editing software.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  34. So the doxxing generally requires a person to post something personal from their lives? Something that can be crosschecked?

    Seems like it would be a good practice to routinely change names and NEVER reference personal information that might trace someone back to you (if getting doxxed would hurt you).

    Otherwise, a good strategy is to be a nobody, so it really doesn’t matter. 🙂

    Beyond that, I don’t think Tucker would be a good President, he’s better off where he is. He’d immediately want to prove how “anti-racist” he is, how we’re all equal, blah blah blah. He still has Good Doggie instincts the Left could use to wrap him up. As a big TV pundit he’s the best we have, but he’d cave as a politician.

  35. @Anonymous
    If you read the article closely the most racist thing they find is that he posted on a thread where someone said n****4.

    One other funny thing to point out is that the head of the ADL's internet censorship division is a woman named Brittan Heller, who sued AutoAdmit over mean comments some posters made about her in 2007. Her husband, Nathaniel Gleicher, is the head of cybersecurity policy at (((Facebook))).

    Replies: @Cato

    From AutoAdmit:

    according to the hollywood reporter article

    “[poster], as recent as this week, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, “Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?” CNN reported that Neff responded to the post, “I wouldn’t get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.””

    and

    ” [poster]’s post also called out Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — writing that the group wants to “MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES.””

    As noted on AutoAdmit, the first comment was misunderstood as dissing Asians, when it was actually about LASIK. The second comment is not what one would call “racist”, perhaps a bit insensitive.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Cato

    The real target of course is Tucker himself. The Left Propaganda Machine is scared of him and are working overtime with oppo research, boycotts, and efforts to take him down.

    But I think Tucker is confident because he knows he has options now. There is a huge business opportunity for anyone who can set up a quality media property to the right of Fox. It's the same move Fox made originally -- to be the only outlet for a vast underserved market.

    Tucker already started and sold the Daily Caller. He would be well-positioned set up this new network. Hopefully Trump won't lose. But if he does that would be a natural project for him to get involved in as well.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy

    , @Roger
    @Cato

    I guess this is what the NY Times puts down as:


    he contributed to message threads in which other writers used racial slurs.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/business/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff.html

    This is mild stuff, but I guess that if I want to keep my job, I better not comment on any thread where someone else has used an ethnic slur.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Cato


    The second comment is not what one would call “racist”, perhaps a bit insensitive.
     
    Actually, I'd call it "true".
  36. I don’t think Jake Neff or even Tucker Carlson is on our side

    Why do I think this?

    – I said the other day in the Tucker For President thread, Tucker’s not the guy doing the writing…the interesting people are his writers

    – A few days later they take out the head writer and make it national news

    – This lends credence to Tucker Carlson being a ‘real conservative’ which I do not think he is. Tucker Carlson is way too good looking to be a true blue Heartiste reader. Good-looking people have super easy lives and everyone..black, hispanic, asian, jewish, muslim…are always nice to them…so they become naive about human nature. When everyone loves you, you love everyone.

    I think this fake news story about Neff serves several goals:

    1) Making people think Carlson is a real conservative
    2) Making people think there are ‘secret’ conservatives in the writer’s room—There aren’t.
    3) Scares people into not posting anything online. Shutting down discourse, stopping the spread of ideas. They need to scare people into silence

    I could be wrong. But it was just too timely with the ‘Tucker for President’ meme.

    • Disagree: Muggles
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Thoughts

    The idea that only ugly people can be true conservatives is absurd. Ugly people want socialism of mates and always have their own agendas. You all seem to realize ugly women disproportionately hold silly grievances, why don’t you understand the same thing about ugly men? And what does being a Heartiste reader have to do with true-blue conservatism? The place was a cesspool of whining, especially in its later years.

    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales...the beautiful is the true.

    And Carlson isn’t crazy good-looking anyway. Just decent to moderately good-looking and healthy for his age. Those tend to be the sanest people. The kind of people who go hiking and boating and do normal things instead of seethe online.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Thoughts

    "the interesting people are his writers"

    When I think of writers I don't think interesting. I just think of a bag of assholes.

  37. @Kyle
    The one advantage to being a nobody, living in flyover country, working for a boss who’s a big trump guy. Nobody alive could possibly care about me. Plus this is unz, nobody can admit unz even exists. If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.
    Tucker is going to do what is prudent for him. I respect his decisions. But it would be totally B.A. if he just quit. Cable Tv is dead.

    Replies: @Kyle, @MarkinLA, @Anonymous

    An addendum; I don’t post as “anon123” on this blog because in a self destructive Freudian sense, deep down in my subconscious I want to be doxxed.

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
  38. @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @scrivener3, @Almost Missouri, @Hibernian

    Good points. I would add that AutoAdmit is currently under what looks to be pre-planned assault where old and discarded but scandalous or offensive threads are being bumped to the top of the homepage by anonymous lurker accounts in order to give new visitors—who will be many on account of the Tucker story—the impression that the site is much “worse” than it really is. These are not necessarily even threads that Tucker’s writer was on. It’s just a guilt-by-association mass effort.

    Anyhow, the site’s owner is taking some countermeasures. He correctly discerns that as the Left’s war against free speech advances, destruction of anonymity will be a key front.

    As posts age beyond one week, they will no longer publicly display your moniker. We can see how well a one-week period works and adjust if necessary. I might offer an option to opt-out of this feature later, but for now it will apply to everyone by default.
    I will also open up the ability to replace old accounts with new accounts.

    Anonymity is more important than ever, and we’ll adapt for the times.

    http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4581874&mc=244&forum_id=2

    I see from his post upthread that Ron is sanguine about doxxers coming for Unzitariat, but should he reconsider, the AutoAdmit guy’s ideas are good ones.

    • Agree: Thoughts
  39. On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.”

    Posting this anonymously on the internet is monstrous. I am a monster ’cause I have definitely posted worse.

    After finishing the article they did quote him as using faggot once, zero context for that. They did quote a few other 10X and 100X more inflammatory and offensive comments by other posters on the board. Besides the single out-of-context slur I did not see one thing that he posted that was even worth remarking upon unless one is an overly aggrieved embittered underprivileged whiny wuss.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Morton's toes


    Besides the single out-of-context slur
     
    What are you referring to?
  40. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Hope so, Ron.

    Some of us have a lot riding on that Voldemort thingie holding firm.

  41. Anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Neff is a pretty conservative Catholic from his posts, not one of the Tribe.

  42. If only they’d invest this kind of dogged detective work in tracking down actual news.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Known Fact

    Assuming CNN is interested in "tracking down actual news" is the mistaken assumption here. All media is entertainment.

    They're only interested in generating an audience for advertising revenues to pay salaries.

  43. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    White women never had any more “feminine graces” than your average Kenworth truck does. They were always inwufferable bull dykes.

  44. @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    Tucker is trying to stay on FOX, I am not sure I really understand why. The mob is going to force him out eventually and it is not like there is a long term future in cable news anyway. The average viewer is a senior citizen who still has a cable TV bundle. If Tucker isn’t already working making a transition to an online only presence he controls, he should be? I doubt he would lose much of his audience.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Barnard

    Reading the iSteve piece, it only reinforces my fear that Carlson will be bye-byeski by January--either voluntarily or, uh, "voluntarily." I don't seem him being eighty-sixed but then again, we'll see. By then he will have a podcast off and running

  45. @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    Tucker Carlson is just Rush Limbaugh 2.0. His job is to keep you on the GOP plantation. It’s the same schtick, he just changes “freedom” to “nationalism.” Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation. Anyone else remember his clownish bowtie boy neocon act from the 90’s? He was a smarmy idiot mindlessly parroting globalization era establishment talking points.

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @ATBOTL

    People do change. Pat Buchanan did. Ann Coulter did. Why there was a time when Steve himself used to write for the National Review (although I don't think that Steve has changed, so much as NR did).

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @ATBOTL


    Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation.

     

    No, he wasn't.

    Tucker Carlson was pro-Ron Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl5bsWmsBQ

    He came out against the Iraq War in 2004.

    https://observer.com/2004/05/newly-dovish-tucker-carlson-goes-publickimmel-writer-ribs-times/

    he’s changed his mind about the war in Iraq. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” he said. “It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually.”
     
    His views on racial diversity back in 2004 (same article).

    For instance, he said, “I was thinking this morning: ‘Diversity is the strength of our country.’ Oh yeah? How’s that? Why don’t you explain that to me? I don’t see that. I mean, is diversity the strength of the Balkans? No.”

     

    He was critical of Israel back in 2002.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sR9uCD4KsjUJ:www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/08/cf.00.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    CARLSON: Wait -- hold it Mr. Ambassador, this is with all due respect, more than a difference of opinion. Our president, President Bush was very clear in his demand to Israel. Israel ignored him in what many interpret as in an insulting way. That's fine, that's Israel's right. But the question then arises, why should the U.S. taxpayers continue to send $3 billion to Israel if Israel, our closest ally in the region, insults this way? Why?

     


    CARLSON: ... my question is why should U.S. taxpayers continue to pay for ...

     


    CARLSON: ... subsidize a country that insults us.
     

    the behavior today at the Church of the Nativity where Israeli soldiers threw a bomb in it, set the church on fire. According to eyewitnesses, including Franciscan (ph) priests within the church, and in fact shot someone in the church. How can you defend that?
     

    CNN employees who say that Israeli soldiers rammed the CNN truck and fired a bullet into the windshield of it. Now they're -- in the last 10 days there have been 20 journalists shot at by Israeli soldiers. Five have been struck by bullets. One "The Boston Globe" was shot.
     
    From what I recall, back during the 90s and 2000s, Tucker Carlson was an independent-minded conservative. Often quite anti-interventionist and critical of Israel. Very far from being a Neocon.

    My recollection of Tucker Carlson is very different from yours.

    The type of Conservatives who were on Crossfire (Tucker Carlson, Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak) often had views that could be considered "Paleo." Anti-war, skeptical of Israel, isolationist, culturally traditional. Not Neocon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Kyle, @ATBOTL

  46. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Well, you would say that, wouldn’t you?

  47. @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @scrivener3, @Almost Missouri, @Hibernian

    A long time ago (7-15 years) the Volokh Conspiracy was a place of relatively open debate; then it was wrecked this way, not with doxxing AFAIK, but with leftist disruption and Mr. Volokh slowly caving to the disruptors as far as his moderation policy was concerned. I recall this being followed by the site going behind a paywall.

    There clearly is a fairly sophisticated private intel operation aimed at free expression on the Internet and in TV and radio, also connected to controlling who can be appointed to appointed executive and judicial posts, and to election campaigns as well.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Hibernian

    I haven't frequented it in a while, but I suspect since it has moved to Reason Mag it's comments are pretty open. Reason does virtually no moderation. Don't know if Volokh is allowed to exercise different rules.

    I stay away from the VC because I can't stand to read anything that is associated with Ilya Simon. Volokh himself has been disappointing in recent years. He thinks too much with his lawyer cap and not enough with his principles.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

  48. @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.

    • Agree: Ed
    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    @Henry's Cat

    For all we know there is an iSteve commenter on his writing staff

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    , @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

  49. @HammerJack
    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?

    It’s an English surname, seen in the colonies. Mary Corliss Neff was one of a trio who killed ten little Indians in their sleep. She and her employer were taught by an English boy whom the Abenaki thought had assimilated to them. Their mistake!

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Corliss-4

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Duston

    Massacre on the Merrimack: Hannah Duston’s Captivity and Revenge in Colonial America

    Puritans Among the Indians: Accounts of Captivity and Redemption…

    Early Encounters: Native Americans and Europeans in New England

    I wonder if there are statues to Mary, Hannah, and Samuel in Haverhill or elsewhere. Better stand guard!

    Yes, there are!!

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21105
    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21104

    “Hatchet Hannah” is a bobblehead:

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/blog/hatchet-hannah-bobble-head/

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Check out his picture. He looks strikingly similar to a nerdy (said w/ love) prematurely-balding blogger of Jewish heritage who has recently been in the news. He's also a writer for a television show.
    Garden variety case of walking stereotype.

    Also, this guy was extremely sloppy in revealing personal details on that forum and slipping in Easter eggs in Tucker's scripts.

    Easter eggs being factoids or phrases that would be innocuous/unremarkable to the public at large but recognizable to members of that community as essentially shout outs. It would be like one of us getting onto a show and somehow working the word whiskey into a conversation on miscegenation and then coming on here and pointing it out.

    That nexus with work would make the firing pretty automatic anywhere, even before the new normal of mass purges of the last month.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  50. The FOX News ticker at the bottom of the screen stated that Tucker will be cucking and virtue signaling on this coming Monday night’s show regarding the resignation of “Neff” and his “racism”.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @KenH

    He'll have his best faux serious face on.

  51. Well, as a progressive trans Latinx lesbian activist and poet, I applaud the brave actions of CNNBusiness. All you cis white males wallowing around in your privilege better BEWARE. The time is nigh. Anyway, gotta go. Punching Nazis is hard work, but it’s so fulfilling. Laterz.

    • LOL: Muggles
  52. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    What triggered you into that diatribe against women?

  53. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Might your intent be seen as trying to bring the ordinary media’s shadow into the light, and allow it to be healthily integrated?

  54. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    • Replies: @I Have Scinde
    @Anonymous

    It seems as if Mr. Neff and Fox News have already acted. For Tucker Carlson:

    It depends on what is going on behind the scenes. If Mr. Carlson is against this course of action and wants to defend his people, he could throw it back at Fox News and dare them to fire him by quoting and agreeing with the same things on the air. If he is with Fox News, he could throw it back at CNN with an "at long last, have you no sense of decency" type of speech, while not protesting the firing. Or he could just cave entirely and distance from the comments. The first course could get him fired, but displays audacity. The latter course would cost him the faith of his audience and eventually doom him.

    Now CNN did this master stroke to put him in this situation, attacking the weak/disposable member of the team. So what would they most like to see? My guess is the third course of action, though they would prefer if Fox fired Carlson. So what he *should* do is whatever CNN would least desire. That's where knowing the state of the relationship between Mr. Carlson and his employer is necessary to give advice.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Anonymous

    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for 'throwing him under the bus' and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as 'taking one for the team' which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff's remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don't hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous

    , @Thoughts
    @Anonymous

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter

    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Problem. Solved.

    Maybe a butt-slapping video, and of the wife or gf (in a white men's shirt) running away giggling.


    It would be super fun though if Tucker were to be like 'Our Head Writer, Neff, has left to pursue other interests' and then on the screen a Photo of Neff with a Super Hot Chick looking adoringly at him.

    This is how we'll win.

    Replies: @Marat, @Reg Cæsar, @Ben tillman

    , @anon
    @Anonymous


    More like: Irreverent witticisms that undermine the Narrative.
     
    Thank you, Steve. This is an excellent reframing.
  55. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack


    I knew a girl in college with that surname. One of the Tribe as we say. Wonder what the name was in the old country?
     
    It's an English surname, seen in the colonies. Mary Corliss Neff was one of a trio who killed ten little Indians in their sleep. She and her employer were taught by an English boy whom the Abenaki thought had assimilated to them. Their mistake!


    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Corliss-4

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Duston

    Massacre on the Merrimack: Hannah Duston's Captivity and Revenge in Colonial America

    Puritans Among the Indians: Accounts of Captivity and Redemption...

    Early Encounters: Native Americans and Europeans in New England

    I wonder if there are statues to Mary, Hannah, and Samuel in Haverhill or elsewhere. Better stand guard!


    Yes, there are!!

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21105
    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/21104


    "Hatchet Hannah" is a bobblehead:

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/blog/hatchet-hannah-bobble-head/

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/ma/MAHAVduston_bobble_nhhistory.jpg

    Replies: @anon

    Check out his picture. He looks strikingly similar to a nerdy (said w/ love) prematurely-balding blogger of Jewish heritage who has recently been in the news. He’s also a writer for a television show.
    Garden variety case of walking stereotype.

    Also, this guy was extremely sloppy in revealing personal details on that forum and slipping in Easter eggs in Tucker’s scripts.

    Easter eggs being factoids or phrases that would be innocuous/unremarkable to the public at large but recognizable to members of that community as essentially shout outs. It would be like one of us getting onto a show and somehow working the word whiskey into a conversation on miscegenation and then coming on here and pointing it out.

    That nexus with work would make the firing pretty automatic anywhere, even before the new normal of mass purges of the last month.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Neff is from South Dakota, which would suggest he's gentile.

    People tend to associate German sounding surnames with Jews in the US because lots of American Jews have German surnames. But the vast majority of American Jews are from the coasts and places like Chicago. People from flyover states like the Dakotas with Germanic surnames tend to be gentiles with German, Dutch, Scandinavian etc. ancestry.

  56. No one has mentioned how long CNN or whoever did the original research kept this story in their pocket so that they could use it when Tucker Carlson was being mentioned in the media. Is no one else suspicious that this doxxing occur right after Tucker Carlson picked a fight with Senator Tammy Duckworth.

    Now image what other landmines others in the media have waiting for them to be used when they need to be silenced.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @guest007


    Is no one else suspicious that this doxxing occur right after Tucker Carlson picked a fight with Senator Tammy Duckworth.
     
    I was surprised he went there at all.

    The Overton window hasn't shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  57. @Hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    Fred MacMurray’s character in Double Indemnity is named Walter Neff.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool, @syonredux

    OT but MacMurray is iSteve’s doppelganger.

  58. @Hibernian
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    A long time ago (7-15 years) the Volokh Conspiracy was a place of relatively open debate; then it was wrecked this way, not with doxxing AFAIK, but with leftist disruption and Mr. Volokh slowly caving to the disruptors as far as his moderation policy was concerned. I recall this being followed by the site going behind a paywall.

    There clearly is a fairly sophisticated private intel operation aimed at free expression on the Internet and in TV and radio, also connected to controlling who can be appointed to appointed executive and judicial posts, and to election campaigns as well.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    I haven’t frequented it in a while, but I suspect since it has moved to Reason Mag it’s comments are pretty open. Reason does virtually no moderation. Don’t know if Volokh is allowed to exercise different rules.

    I stay away from the VC because I can’t stand to read anything that is associated with Ilya Simon. Volokh himself has been disappointing in recent years. He thinks too much with his lawyer cap and not enough with his principles.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Cloudbuster

    Ilya Somin. Ugh. Spelled it right the first time and auto-correct changed it. Didn't notice until after the edit window had expired.

  59. @Cloudbuster
    @Hibernian

    I haven't frequented it in a while, but I suspect since it has moved to Reason Mag it's comments are pretty open. Reason does virtually no moderation. Don't know if Volokh is allowed to exercise different rules.

    I stay away from the VC because I can't stand to read anything that is associated with Ilya Simon. Volokh himself has been disappointing in recent years. He thinks too much with his lawyer cap and not enough with his principles.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    Ilya Somin. Ugh. Spelled it right the first time and auto-correct changed it. Didn’t notice until after the edit window had expired.

  60. It sounds to me like this is an opportunity for One America Network News to announce their new 9 PM weekday program, The Blake Neff Show.

  61. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    The Neff thing seems highly goal-seeked and overplayed to me. It seems like CNN desperately wanted to hurt Tucker (and why wouldn’t they?–he smokes them in the nightly news ratings), so they did a bunch of opposition research on his staff and this was the most they could come up with. Even this material needs to be exaggerated and falsified to make it look worse than it is.

    I’m not sure what adequate protection there can be for any individual once the whole national culture has adopted the ethics of some pissy high school social circle where people can and will get chucked out for nasty and trivial reasons.

    Someday the adults will be back in charge, after the children have ruined everything. In the meantime, while everybody must take care to protect himself, I would recommend speaking your mind and having the courage of your convictions. There is no telling how these things will shake out. If you have been making an honest effort to speak the truth for years, it may just be that your legacy will come to your aid when you least expect it. Even those who are down now, like Neff, may be up again tomorrow. There are more things in heaven and earth, etc.

    • Agree: Richard B, V. K. Ovelund
  62. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Morton's toes

    On June 24, Neff commented, "Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep." On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL's Washington Redskins are "white libs and their university-'educated' pets."
     
    Posting this anonymously on the internet is monstrous. I am a monster 'cause I have definitely posted worse.

    After finishing the article they did quote him as using faggot once, zero context for that. They did quote a few other 10X and 100X more inflammatory and offensive comments by other posters on the board. Besides the single out-of-context slur I did not see one thing that he posted that was even worth remarking upon unless one is an overly aggrieved embittered underprivileged whiny wuss.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Besides the single out-of-context slur

    What are you referring to?

  63. @HarvardMan
    @Ron Unz

    Sorry Mr. Unz, but this reveals a level of delusion about just where we are as a society that you really shouldn't engage in as a prominent dissident figure. Maybe they won't write a nasty hit-piece about this place, but they'll certainly make it impossible for you to host your website, or pay your bills, or whatever extra-judicial means they see fit to silence you.

    I sincerely hope you're planning for the day when you log on only to be greeted by a big 404 splash page and a hosting company that refuses to take your calls. It's coming, very soon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

    A Harvard man, eh? That is so cool and interesting. What years did you study there? What was your major? Did you take advantage of any of the school’s many social clubs? Did your friends give you any funny nicknames?

    • LOL: Charon, Stan d Mute
  64. @Known Fact
    If only they'd invest this kind of dogged detective work in tracking down actual news.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Assuming CNN is interested in “tracking down actual news” is the mistaken assumption here. All media is entertainment.

    They’re only interested in generating an audience for advertising revenues to pay salaries.

  65. Frankly, when I first heard about this, I was expecting some genuinely OTT stuff. But here’s what he wrote:

    On June 5, Neff wrote, “Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down.” On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.”

    More recently, in February 2020, Neff called Mormonism “an inherently cucky religion.”

    On June 5, a user on the forum commented in a thread, “Didn’t Michael Brown rob a store and attack a police officer? And wasn’t [George Floyd] a piece of sh[**] with a long criminal record? Jfc libs.” Another person commented, “It doesn’t matter to these people.” Neff then replied, “It does. The violent criminals are even MORE heroic.” On June 16, a user started a separate thread about a video showing a Black man assaulting an elderly white woman in New York. Neff commented on the thread, “And to think, if this guy got killed in some freak incident while being arrested, we’d have to endure at least three funerals in his honor.”

    On May 27, Neff wrote that Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — known collectively as “The Squad” — want to “MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SH[***]OLES.” Responding to a thread on June 27 about whether “whites fear what’s going to happen to them in 10-20 yrs,” Neff wrote that he has “no plans to stay” in the country “that long.” In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”

    This all seems pretty accurate……But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble….

    • Agree: Bugg
    • Thanks: JimDandy, bomag
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux


    This all seems pretty accurate……But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble….

     

    What would you recommend that Tucker Carlson do in addressing this situation during his show on Monday?

    Here’s one alternative: He goes through, one-by-one, some if not all of the offending statements. Making concessions where they are offensive or off color, but adding context/history/translating where appropriate.

    , @syonredux
    @syonredux


    In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    Quite prescient.......

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @216

    , @J1234
    @syonredux

    Yeah, nothing really racist, in that Neff's coarsely stated observations are largely accurate, except for maybe his "Congo ......" comment (which I'm guessing is the main reason he was fired.) Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn't been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are...and more importantly, how important Tucker's mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?

    I actually know the answer to that...because I vent in similar ways when the frustration factor with the far left gets high enough. And our country still has a first amendment...for the time being. It's wrong that he was made to quit, but the practical truth is that if he didn't, probably the Ted Cruz's and Jim Jordan's of the world would stop appearing on Tucker's segments.

    When all is said and done, however, Neff's comments are an example of someone from the right defacing the metaphorical monuments of the left. Those monuments are eventually coming down, one way or another.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Anonymous

  66. @Anonymous
    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    Replies: @I Have Scinde, @Almost Missouri, @al gore rhythms, @Thoughts, @anon

    It seems as if Mr. Neff and Fox News have already acted. For Tucker Carlson:

    It depends on what is going on behind the scenes. If Mr. Carlson is against this course of action and wants to defend his people, he could throw it back at Fox News and dare them to fire him by quoting and agreeing with the same things on the air. If he is with Fox News, he could throw it back at CNN with an “at long last, have you no sense of decency” type of speech, while not protesting the firing. Or he could just cave entirely and distance from the comments. The first course could get him fired, but displays audacity. The latter course would cost him the faith of his audience and eventually doom him.

    Now CNN did this master stroke to put him in this situation, attacking the weak/disposable member of the team. So what would they most like to see? My guess is the third course of action, though they would prefer if Fox fired Carlson. So what he *should* do is whatever CNN would least desire. That’s where knowing the state of the relationship between Mr. Carlson and his employer is necessary to give advice.

  67. anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    You’re only discussing the national media, which has doxxed a handful of people.

    The vast majority of doxxing is people directly contacting employers via Twitter and getting them fired. Once this information shows up in a basic Google search for someone’s name, their career is over, unless they are in a few industries and locales.

  68. @PseudoNhymm
    Operational Security includes the things you post online. There are no safe spaces

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Neuday

    A no-log VPN and protonmail are your friends.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Neuday

    Such as?

    Replies: @Neuday

  69. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    Frankly, when I first heard about this, I was expecting some genuinely OTT stuff. But here's what he wrote:

    On June 5, Neff wrote, “Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down.” On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.”
     

    More recently, in February 2020, Neff called Mormonism “an inherently cucky religion.”
     

    On June 5, a user on the forum commented in a thread, “Didn’t Michael Brown rob a store and attack a police officer? And wasn’t [George Floyd] a piece of sh[**] with a long criminal record? Jfc libs.” Another person commented, “It doesn’t matter to these people.” Neff then replied, “It does. The violent criminals are even MORE heroic.” On June 16, a user started a separate thread about a video showing a Black man assaulting an elderly white woman in New York. Neff commented on the thread, “And to think, if this guy got killed in some freak incident while being arrested, we’d have to endure at least three funerals in his honor.”
     

    On May 27, Neff wrote that Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — known collectively as “The Squad” — want to “MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SH[***]OLES.” Responding to a thread on June 27 about whether “whites fear what’s going to happen to them in 10-20 yrs,” Neff wrote that he has “no plans to stay” in the country “that long.” In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    This all seems pretty accurate......But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @syonredux, @J1234

    This all seems pretty accurate……But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble….

    What would you recommend that Tucker Carlson do in addressing this situation during his show on Monday?

    Here’s one alternative: He goes through, one-by-one, some if not all of the offending statements. Making concessions where they are offensive or off color, but adding context/history/translating where appropriate.

  70. @Jesse
    @Blackpilled American

    Gee, I can't IMAGINE why your side keeps losing. Like, for decades at a time. It's just mindboggling as to why your fellow Whites hate you so much.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    Hello, fellow Unz poster.

  71. @Thoughts
    I don't think Jake Neff or even Tucker Carlson is on our side

    Why do I think this?

    - I said the other day in the Tucker For President thread, Tucker's not the guy doing the writing...the interesting people are his writers

    - A few days later they take out the head writer and make it national news

    - This lends credence to Tucker Carlson being a 'real conservative' which I do not think he is. Tucker Carlson is way too good looking to be a true blue Heartiste reader. Good-looking people have super easy lives and everyone..black, hispanic, asian, jewish, muslim...are always nice to them...so they become naive about human nature. When everyone loves you, you love everyone.

    I think this fake news story about Neff serves several goals:

    1) Making people think Carlson is a real conservative
    2) Making people think there are 'secret' conservatives in the writer's room---There aren't.
    3) Scares people into not posting anything online. Shutting down discourse, stopping the spread of ideas. They need to scare people into silence

    I could be wrong. But it was just too timely with the 'Tucker for President' meme.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @SunBakedSuburb

    The idea that only ugly people can be true conservatives is absurd. Ugly people want socialism of mates and always have their own agendas. You all seem to realize ugly women disproportionately hold silly grievances, why don’t you understand the same thing about ugly men? And what does being a Heartiste reader have to do with true-blue conservatism? The place was a cesspool of whining, especially in its later years.

    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales…the beautiful is the true.

    And Carlson isn’t crazy good-looking anyway. Just decent to moderately good-looking and healthy for his age. Those tend to be the sanest people. The kind of people who go hiking and boating and do normal things instead of seethe online.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @S. Anonyia


    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales…the beautiful is the true.
     
    Oh? Have you never known anyone of beautiful, noble character who was of ugly physical appearance? Or vice-versa, i.e., someone of beautiful physical appearance but downright ugly character? Visual beauty is but skin-deep.

    “What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.”
    ~ Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

  72. @Henry's Cat
    @anonymous

    You expect Carlson - with the highest rated show in cable news' history - to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable - heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Boomer Lives Matter

    For all we know there is an iSteve commenter on his writing staff

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Pop Warner

    No comment.

  73. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    @3 Blackpilled American: Laura Ingraham adopted two mestizo children from central America and is raising them as a proud single mother. Yes, yes, her fiance dumped her when she had breast cancer, but that is irrelevant to her prior and subsequent choices. She chose to focus on her career before family, and she chose to adopt inter-racially. So she’s just like all the Sailer readers – sorta race-realist but with ‘muh character’ exceptions – which means melting pot civ nattery, which means clownworld.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @3g4me

    I think they are Russians.

  74. @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.
     
    What should Tucker say?
    , @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.
     
    Carlson "throwing him under the bus" is an egregiously invalid characterization.

    Neff took an extended "flyer" by posting to an outlier group–that is, outliers in the general public discourse–and got nailed by his passionate, some say crazy, opposition. So now his boss has been dragged into it, which hampers his bosses ability to communicate, which is what Carlson is paid to do.

    When you have more of a voice, you are saddled with more responsibility. Carlson didn’t ask Neff to post in that forum. Neff chose to. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    CNN's game is easy to identify: deconstruct satirical comments as literal, and mischaracterize a man's "shorthand" flip remarks as the doors into that man's heart–unless it’s one of them.

    Neff made himself vulnerable to that game, and by doing so, brought his boss into it.

    I’ve worked for many corporations. If I brought my boss unwillingly into a public shitstorm, simply because of my ego, I would expect to be fired. The specifics of the elements that produced the outcome are irrelevant. Neff could have posted "there is no god," and if he was found out, Carlson would be right to let him go. It would be too polarizing a claim, going outside the general preview of Carlson's show, whether Carlson agreed or not.

    Neff was fucking around. His job is connected to his boss. He brought his boss into it... and that’s that.

    I believe if I had Neff's plumb job, I’d NEVER post on ANY outlier site, anonymously or not. It’s just good corporate hygiene. And for fuck's sake! He was getting paid VERY well NOT to! That responsibility is a part of his pay scale.

    Professionally, Neff was a slob. He inadvertently brought his stink to work with him. Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it. Has nothing to do with Fox in general, or Carlson's personal inclinations in particular. More to do with Neff's ego.

    It’s ironic, but typical that the ego required for Neff to earn his professional position is the same ego that wound up cutting him off at the knees.

    Neff's antagonist to overcome isn’t Fox, or even CNN.

    It’s him. His existential battle is with himself.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @V. K. Ovelund

  75. @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    There’s a good chance she regrets both. Many people have made terrible mistakes when it comes to personal relationships. It doesn’t make then unworthy of admiration. Purity spiraling is a path to failure.

    • Agree: megabar
  76. For anyone looking to decamp from these once-United States, Che’s birthplace is on the market:

    Che Guevara’s birth home is up for sale in Argentina

    Looks nice.


    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Justice, solidarity, and firing squads. In the mind of a Marxist, all three of these go well together.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  77. @Cato
    @Anonymous

    From AutoAdmit:


    according to the hollywood reporter article

    "[poster], as recent as this week, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" CNN reported that Neff responded to the post, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.""

    and

    " [poster]'s post also called out Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — writing that the group wants to "MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES.""

     

    As noted on AutoAdmit, the first comment was misunderstood as dissing Asians, when it was actually about LASIK. The second comment is not what one would call "racist", perhaps a bit insensitive.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Roger, @Mr. Anon

    The real target of course is Tucker himself. The Left Propaganda Machine is scared of him and are working overtime with oppo research, boycotts, and efforts to take him down.

    But I think Tucker is confident because he knows he has options now. There is a huge business opportunity for anyone who can set up a quality media property to the right of Fox. It’s the same move Fox made originally — to be the only outlet for a vast underserved market.

    Tucker already started and sold the Daily Caller. He would be well-positioned set up this new network. Hopefully Trump won’t lose. But if he does that would be a natural project for him to get involved in as well.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hypnotoad666


    The real target of course is Tucker himself.
     
    They are both real targets. Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Clyde

    , @JimDandy
    @Hypnotoad666

    It's interesting, a night or two before this happened, Tucker was questioning why Ghislaine Maxwell came back to America. He was implying that something funny was going on. Deal making, etc.

    "I know she has at least one foreign passport," he sneered, with pointed disgust, referring to her dual citizenship (and peculiar relationship) with Israel. "Wow!" I thought. "That's kind of ballsy, Tucker. Better watch it."

    And here we are.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

  78. @Bobbocio
    @Ron Unz

    For now.

    Who knows what MSM's policy will be tomorrow?

    Replies: @bomag

    Who knows what MSM’s policy will be tomorrow?

    Indeed.

    Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @bomag

    >>Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.<<

    Yes! Beria too! Actually all of the NKVD heads were purged/killed but one guy in the late 20s who died of actual heart disease.

    Of course the Kancellation Komrades are not so powerful or even to be feared.

    Of course if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly. Just common sense unless you want to screen potential customers/employers for their politics.

    I should also note something relevant here. Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    I tried to argue that there was no reason to be fearful, and that if you acted as if you were in the USSR you may as well be there already. Still, people were very afraid of the IRS especially.

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Kratoklastes
    @bomag

    Huge difference: Yagoda (and Beria etc) were insiders who fell out of favour.

    So a modern parallel would be if the WokeBorg turned its lidded gaze on Sarah Jeong or the faggy cunt from Patreon.

    On the bright side: we're not far from that at this point.

    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they're not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don't like.

    There's such a thing as feminists and lesbians (and just ordinary-ass normal women) who have had a gutful of men in dresses shrieking louder than a hen's night group, too.

    Give it a little while longer and then they'll all be at each others' throats. In the meantime, some good stuff will happen - e.g., the dismantling of statues that glorify the losing side in the US Civil War.

    I have strong views on the outright wrongness of the Union side of that conflict, but the erection of those statues was outright political pandering to the losers, decades after the event.

    Imagine the US/Allied response if a German government announced it was going to put up statues of Rommel, Guderian or Skorzeny, along with a more general hagiography of the patriotic efforts of the Wehrmacht and the rehabilitation of the Kriegsfahne and swastika.

    Now imagine how a German Red Sea Pedestrian would feel about that: that'll give a sense of how US blacks feel (and felt) about 'commemoration' of the Confederacy.

    It's also weird as fuck that US soldiers don't feel weird about bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist 'foreign' military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again... would the US ever contemplate "Fort Rommel"? "Fort Zubaydah"?).

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

  79. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    @anonymous

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker's behavior should prove if he's just another flash in the pan.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.

    What should Tucker say?

  80. I sincerely hope you’re planning for the day when you log on only to be greeted by a big 404 splash page and a hosting company that refuses to take your calls. It’s coming, very soon.

    Mr. Unz seems like a tech-savvy guy, with some financial resources. It’s not all that difficult to stand up a couple servers to host his website, and there’s some pretty good linux DDOS resources out there. It’d be more expensive than his current very mainstream hosting and DDOS setup, and it might cost each of us a couple bucks a month, but after some up-front costs the maintenance wouldn’t be too bad, I expect.

    I’m a bit shocked that his current host hasn’t yet kicked him off, considering American Pravda. He must be doing something right. Maybe the ADL truly just wants to ignore him.

  81. @syonredux
    Frankly, when I first heard about this, I was expecting some genuinely OTT stuff. But here's what he wrote:

    On June 5, Neff wrote, “Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down.” On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.”
     

    More recently, in February 2020, Neff called Mormonism “an inherently cucky religion.”
     

    On June 5, a user on the forum commented in a thread, “Didn’t Michael Brown rob a store and attack a police officer? And wasn’t [George Floyd] a piece of sh[**] with a long criminal record? Jfc libs.” Another person commented, “It doesn’t matter to these people.” Neff then replied, “It does. The violent criminals are even MORE heroic.” On June 16, a user started a separate thread about a video showing a Black man assaulting an elderly white woman in New York. Neff commented on the thread, “And to think, if this guy got killed in some freak incident while being arrested, we’d have to endure at least three funerals in his honor.”
     

    On May 27, Neff wrote that Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — known collectively as “The Squad” — want to “MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SH[***]OLES.” Responding to a thread on June 27 about whether “whites fear what’s going to happen to them in 10-20 yrs,” Neff wrote that he has “no plans to stay” in the country “that long.” In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    This all seems pretty accurate......But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @syonredux, @J1234

    In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”

    Quite prescient…….

    • Agree: bomag, 216
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @syonredux

    Sounds like this Neff guy will make a great Unz writer.

    He's spot on about a large percentage of whites having a biologically-based urge to cheer on their own destruction.

    Replies: @anon

    , @216
    @syonredux

    Most people don't care if we lose self-determination.

    They say we deserve it because our ancestors were conquerors.

    No one calls the ANC government a tyrannical dictatorship, even though a conservative government cannot be elected.

  82. @guest007
    No one has mentioned how long CNN or whoever did the original research kept this story in their pocket so that they could use it when Tucker Carlson was being mentioned in the media. Is no one else suspicious that this doxxing occur right after Tucker Carlson picked a fight with Senator Tammy Duckworth.

    Now image what other landmines others in the media have waiting for them to be used when they need to be silenced.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Is no one else suspicious that this doxxing occur right after Tucker Carlson picked a fight with Senator Tammy Duckworth.

    I was surprised he went there at all.

    The Overton window hasn’t shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.

    • LOL: Kyle
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    The Overton window hasn’t shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.
     
    The Overton Window has shifted a lot under the Trump Presidency. The only trouble is, it's shifted to the Left.

    If Trump is re-elected it will shift even further Left.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  83. @syonredux
    @syonredux


    In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    Quite prescient.......

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @216

    Sounds like this Neff guy will make a great Unz writer.

    He’s spot on about a large percentage of whites having a biologically-based urge to cheer on their own destruction.

    • Replies: @anon
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    He’s spot on about a large percentage of whites having a biologically-based urge to cheer on their own destruction.
     
    A large percentage of Whites have a biologically-based urge to hold a job that feeds their families and to have a place in polite society. You’ve got to control for the enormous coercion/disincentives being applied to white people, before you can draw any conclusions about “biology.”
  84. @The Alarmist
    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I'm still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff's lynching. Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @ben tillman, @Chrisnonymous

    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?

    for those who haven’t clicked the link, the first (and presumably most-damning) quote is one in which Neff says he would not get Lasik surgery under any circumstances. How racist & bigoted!!!!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @ben tillman

    Well, he did say that he wouldn't get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free. But I think the real offense was referring to Asians as Azn in other posts. The stalking/mocking of the womyn is douchey, but not the stuff worthy of a lynching.

    Replies: @nobodyofnowhere, @MarkinLA

  85. @KenH
    The FOX News ticker at the bottom of the screen stated that Tucker will be cucking and virtue signaling on this coming Monday night's show regarding the resignation of "Neff" and his "racism".

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    He’ll have his best faux serious face on.

  86. @syonredux
    Frankly, when I first heard about this, I was expecting some genuinely OTT stuff. But here's what he wrote:

    On June 5, Neff wrote, “Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down.” On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.”
     

    More recently, in February 2020, Neff called Mormonism “an inherently cucky religion.”
     

    On June 5, a user on the forum commented in a thread, “Didn’t Michael Brown rob a store and attack a police officer? And wasn’t [George Floyd] a piece of sh[**] with a long criminal record? Jfc libs.” Another person commented, “It doesn’t matter to these people.” Neff then replied, “It does. The violent criminals are even MORE heroic.” On June 16, a user started a separate thread about a video showing a Black man assaulting an elderly white woman in New York. Neff commented on the thread, “And to think, if this guy got killed in some freak incident while being arrested, we’d have to endure at least three funerals in his honor.”
     

    On May 27, Neff wrote that Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — known collectively as “The Squad” — want to “MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SH[***]OLES.” Responding to a thread on June 27 about whether “whites fear what’s going to happen to them in 10-20 yrs,” Neff wrote that he has “no plans to stay” in the country “that long.” In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    This all seems pretty accurate......But, in our Maoist-moment, accuracy will only get you in trouble....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @syonredux, @J1234

    Yeah, nothing really racist, in that Neff’s coarsely stated observations are largely accurate, except for maybe his “Congo ……” comment (which I’m guessing is the main reason he was fired.) Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?

    I actually know the answer to that…because I vent in similar ways when the frustration factor with the far left gets high enough. And our country still has a first amendment…for the time being. It’s wrong that he was made to quit, but the practical truth is that if he didn’t, probably the Ted Cruz’s and Jim Jordan’s of the world would stop appearing on Tucker’s segments.

    When all is said and done, however, Neff’s comments are an example of someone from the right defacing the metaphorical monuments of the left. Those monuments are eventually coming down, one way or another.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @J1234


    And our country still has a first amendment…
     
    Which in practice no longer protects free speech. If you can have your career wrecked and your life destroyed for trying to exercise free speech then you no longer have free speech.

    Which is something the Right seems to be incapable of understanding.
    , @Anonymous
    @J1234


    Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?
     
    It seems to me that this Neff fellow should be able to say whatever he pleases in his spare time. Is this not so?

    I am intrigued by the (apparently now widely accepted) idea that what you do in your spare time reflects on your employer. Well, isn't your spare time just that, yours?

    When did it become acceptable for employers to expect their employees to toe the line, not just whilst on the job, but wherever they went, and at any time of day? How is that any different from the slavery the left so widely decries?

    It seems to me that the American political right is focussed on quite the wrong things. Rather than attempting to defend what this Neff fellow said in his spare time, wouldn't the right stand a better chance of prevailing if they couched the matter in terms of, "What Neff said in his spare time has nothing to do with the Tucker Carlson show and is no one's business but his own"?

    Isn't it high time that the American political right flung the left's utter lack of decency back in their teeth? Leftists can burn, loot, and destroy with impunity, but this chap makes a few innocuous remarks on a message board and that's it, his life is over? Really?

    Writers or no, if Tucker Carlson can't turn this around and reveal these cretinous, obnoxious busybodies for who they really are, he isn't half the man the Americans have made him out to be.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @3g4me, @J1234

  87. Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.

    Those legal boards sure kept a low profile. I never heard of any such places. And what is JDU? Google is no help.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @ben tillman

    https://esqnever.blogspot.com/2019/07/what-happened-to-jd-underground-jdu.html

    , @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @ben tillman

    The more obscure, the better. There used to be many, during the height of “The Law School Scam” period. Disaffected and under/unemployed lawyers would congregate to discuss job opportunities, rates of pay in doc review, discuss what small shops to avoid working in etc and it went from there, taking on a life of its own

  88. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    ” anything you write here is probably safe”

    a really stupid and dangerous position.

    • Agree: Dissident
  89. @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    But who stoutly defends those who do.

  90. @ben tillman
    @The Alarmist


    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I’m still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff’s lynching. Did I miss something?
     
    for those who haven't clicked the link, the first (and presumably most-damning) quote is one in which Neff says he would not get Lasik surgery under any circumstances. How racist & bigoted!!!!

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Well, he did say that he wouldn’t get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free. But I think the real offense was referring to Asians as Azn in other posts. The stalking/mocking of the womyn is douchey, but not the stuff worthy of a lynching.

    • Replies: @nobodyofnowhere
    @The Alarmist


    Well, he did say that he wouldn’t get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free.

     

    Given the context of a thread asking if people'd get LASIK done by someone from Congo for half off, it seemed like a pretty clear reference to affirmative action to me, with the meaning that ben tillman inferred from it.

    If anything, his "offense" in that comment is the implication that he'd take race into account in choosing his doctor.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @MarkinLA
    @The Alarmist

    You never watched Street Outlaws? It's the name of the Asian guy.

    https://okcfarmtruck.com/blogs/news/azn-breaks-an-axle

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  91. Anon[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    If society keeps producing tough white women, that’s because only tough white woman are able to pass on their genes. It’s Darwin at work. If you want a dainty, delicate, polite woman to marry, the man who bonds with her is going to have to do all the heavy lifting in the marriage. He’s going to have to be the sole money-earner so she can stay home to raise the kids and be protected against the coarsening effects of working life, and he’s going to have to pass on enough cash to his delicate kids so that they can reproduce while they’re still young. They have to have trust funds paying them enough to support a family while they’re still young enough to reproduce, in their twenties or so. Inheriting in their 60s after a hard life struggling doesn’t cut it. They need that money in their 20s so they can get a family going.

    Darwinian survival means enough resources need to be passed onto the kids when it matters, not just in their childhood, but in their young adulthood so they can get a leg up over their peers in competition. The WASP class that dominated America for so long knew this, and didn’t throw their young into the ocean and tell them to swim. It carefully steered, educated, gave jobs to, and gave cash to their young adults so they were well-positioned in life. This is how and why the WASP caste kept itself in power so long. The British nobility and elite classes gave their youngsters blatant advantages for centuries, and that’s how the elite stayed elite.

    A philosophy that it’s good to throw your young to the wolves is coming from your enemies. Yes, you’ll have some strong kids here and there that survive the wolves, but many will slide back down the social ladder, and they’ll have trouble forming families. The low reproduction rate of our white higher classes vs. black ghetto rats is a testimony to that.

    Darwin doesn’t care for nice. Darwin cares about what survives. Yes, being strong means you’ll survive, but so does being clever. Clever people don’t throw their kids to the wolves in hopes that somehow, their offspring will survive the process. If they think their offspring need toughening up, they enroll their kids in the armed forces. Joining the army has been used for centuries by the elite for turning your offspring into leaders and toughening them up. In fact, it used to be expected that elites would do a stint in the army to improve their mettle. Clever people understand that leaders need training, not being kicked off a cliff and told to cope with what happens afterwards.

    Do you know why the US used to have better presidents? Because many of them had done a stint in the army. Military service was expected of them. It taught character, command, mental toughness, and honor.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, Thea, Clyde
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Well when your working woman wife doesn't pass on any morals or education to your kids because she doesn't have the time...

    Goodluck with that.

    I don't know a working woman in my real life who interacts with her kids much. Most shove the kids off to school and that be it.

    And the kids are lost/stupid or both. No one is there to guide them.

    And frankly, couples with two working parents tend to be pretty poor...because it means the man just doesn't make enough which is not a good sign.

    I deal with the lower middle, and middle class. Working women are not good for those classes.

  92. Neff should sue CNN. Interference in his employment.

    And yes President Biden will set up a final solution China wise to White men. White women are full on board.

  93. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Even if you are right (which I kind of doubt), it would still be nice for you to offer the chance for us to replace our email sign-in names and/or IP addresses. It really couldn’t be very much work for you, and as I noted before some of us used real emails for whatever reasons.

    Also, your website purports to allow us to make our user post history unavailable….

    (Commenters may request that their archives be hidden by contacting the appropriate blogger)

    …but when I tried this, nothing happened.

  94. @scrivener3
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    One clear lesson is don't publish on another person's platform: blogspot, wordpress.com, facebook, twitter, Instagram.

    They are private companies and can do as they wish without discussion explanation or consistency.

    Self publishing is different. Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process. Most root name servers in the national domains (the two letter domains like CH or DE) are run by their respective governments and could ignore ICANN as to any policy. Every domain works worldwide on the Internet so it may be harder to publicize a .CC domain than a .COM but a .CC works just as well.

    In fact every controversial site should register an alternate domain in another jurisdiction entirely and put a link to it in their header or on every page for all users to bookmark. Should they ever be unpersoned by Verisign (the .COM registry) all readers could access the site from the alternate domain immediately.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process.

    Can you explain VDARE’s recent domain registry crisis, then?

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @Chrisnonymous

    I am sorry I do not know the facts of vdare domain name crises. When I type in vdare.com I seem to get the page I always got. There are many social media sites that disappeared without a word of public notice, discussion or forwarding information. They are still gone with their publishers having little chance of recovering their audience.

    As I said verisign might unperson you (if you are a com) but you have legal recourse. If wordpress does not want you on their platform you are finished. If Vdare.com registered vdare.ru (the russian top level domain) and pointed both names to the same site and told all their users if they have trouble getting to vdare.com go to our backup site vdare.ru, well then they would have been online while all the legalities of verisign and vdare.com were sorted out.

    Replies: @Pericles

  95. @Anonymous
    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    Replies: @I Have Scinde, @Almost Missouri, @al gore rhythms, @Thoughts, @anon

    Tucker could say, “We believe in freedom and we don’t look into our staff’s private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life.”

    The “Easter Egg” thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff’s actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker’s personal/professional reaction, he’s probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker’s own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I’m not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn’t about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his “reputation”. In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don’t-call-us-we’ll-call-you, so it’s not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You’re just unpersoned, and that’s the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It’s not that response is disallowed, it’s just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you’re no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Almost Missouri


    Tucker could say, “We believe in freedom and we don’t look into our staff’s private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life.”
     
    This seems insufficient here. It may be better to address the substance of Neff’s comments, on moral grounds. You do so later in your comment:

    His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties.

    What if Tucker said that?
    , @bomag
    @Almost Missouri


    In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.
     
    You explained it well, but I can't help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling's "Earth arose and crushed it".

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Almost Missouri, @Boomer Lives Matter

    , @Clyde
    @Almost Missouri

    I don't know what Neff's family circumstances are. But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.
    Six months at Muay Thai, in a far way foreign land, very different culture, will give a whole new perspective on life and toughen him up for his next job. He looks like a hairless blob.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JnEyHDOkQU

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Almost Missouri

    The Murdoch sons will have gotten their damage control boys (crisis external corporate communications) on the job immediately, when Neff forwarded the CNN message to them. They (CECC) then wrote the scripts for Suzanne Scott, Jay Wallace, and Tucker, pending approval by Legal.

    Scott and Wallace’s decision to fire Neff would, however, have been automatic.

    It’s a fait accompli, and Tucker has no say in the matter.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    I agree with this in principle, but my experience with America's WASP class is that to a surprising degree they do let their kids sink or swim. Not 100% obviously, but far more than the silver-spoon-to-the-manor-born stereotype would lead you to believe, and more even than common prudence might lead you to expect. Whether this is a cause of their decline, a result of their decline, or has always been true I don't know. It is just an observation.

    From what I can tell (history, and a small amount of personal experience) protected upbringing is more true of the English upper class, and was still more true historically.

    Certainly it is a conundrum for any elite: how to preserve your own progeny's role in it when they may or may not merit it? You can just cross your fingers and rely on nature (r-selection), or invest massively in nurture to squeeze out whatever merit genes have bestowed (K-selection). Obviously, either approach has optimal circumstances.

    I have always admired the ancient Persian admonition that the proper upbringing for a young nobleman was to learn "to ride, shoot straight and speak the truth", implying that after that everything else would follow naturally according to ability and destiny.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  96. @ben tillman

    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
     
    Those legal boards sure kept a low profile. I never heard of any such places. And what is JDU? Google is no help.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

  97. @The Alarmist
    The article opens with a trigger-warning, but I'm still not triggered after reading it. Well, I am triggered that CNN is behaving like a vigilante mob, but the article itself seems devoid of any actual crimes or misdemeanors that warrant Neff's lynching. Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @ben tillman, @Chrisnonymous

    It’s interesting the article starts not by noting some comment of Neff’s but by noting the title of a thread he posted to. Guilt by association. (Tiny Duck and Corvinus should keep this in mind!) Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Chrisnonymous


    Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.
     
    If you comment here, you are on somebody's watch list, and they have access to your IP records.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  98. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    @anonymous

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker's behavior should prove if he's just another flash in the pan.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.

    Carlson “throwing him under the bus” is an egregiously invalid characterization.

    Neff took an extended “flyer” by posting to an outlier group–that is, outliers in the general public discourse–and got nailed by his passionate, some say crazy, opposition. So now his boss has been dragged into it, which hampers his bosses ability to communicate, which is what Carlson is paid to do.

    When you have more of a voice, you are saddled with more responsibility. Carlson didn’t ask Neff to post in that forum. Neff chose to. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    CNN’s game is easy to identify: deconstruct satirical comments as literal, and mischaracterize a man’s “shorthand” flip remarks as the doors into that man’s heart–unless it’s one of them.

    Neff made himself vulnerable to that game, and by doing so, brought his boss into it.

    I’ve worked for many corporations. If I brought my boss unwillingly into a public shitstorm, simply because of my ego, I would expect to be fired. The specifics of the elements that produced the outcome are irrelevant. Neff could have posted “there is no god,” and if he was found out, Carlson would be right to let him go. It would be too polarizing a claim, going outside the general preview of Carlson’s show, whether Carlson agreed or not.

    Neff was fucking around. His job is connected to his boss. He brought his boss into it… and that’s that.

    I believe if I had Neff’s plumb job, I’d NEVER post on ANY outlier site, anonymously or not. It’s just good corporate hygiene. And for fuck’s sake! He was getting paid VERY well NOT to! That responsibility is a part of his pay scale.

    Professionally, Neff was a slob. He inadvertently brought his stink to work with him. Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it. Has nothing to do with Fox in general, or Carlson’s personal inclinations in particular. More to do with Neff’s ego.

    It’s ironic, but typical that the ego required for Neff to earn his professional position is the same ego that wound up cutting him off at the knees.

    Neff’s antagonist to overcome isn’t Fox, or even CNN.

    It’s him. His existential battle is with himself.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Anonymous

    Also, he's fat.

    , @V. K. Ovelund
    @Anonymous


    Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it.
     
    As recently as 20 years ago, the typical American employer would probably have ignored what Neff did on his personal time, regardless of the name Neff had used when he did it.

    All of us cannot flee forever. Prudence is wanted but there are limits to cowardice.

    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  99. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    Ron – what would you do if you got a subpoena for email addresses of participants here?

    What if Patreon got a subpoena?

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @botazefa

    It won't be (mostly fake) email addresses they want. It'll be such things as IP locators, and more. Some of which they probably have already anyway.

    Replies: @botazefa

    , @Almost Missouri
    @botazefa

    As Hammerjack says, commenters' IP addresses and probably more is already known or available to intel agencies. But they have other things to do ... for now.

    In order to get a subpoena, you have to have a lawsuit or indictment, so the Unz Review would have to be sued or indicted for something first. And then it would have to be suit or indictment relating to something in the comments so that commenter data could be subpoenaed.

    The point of comment moderation is to keep actionable material (threats, libel, etc.) out of the comments so that lawsuits never start.

    That said, if a suit does start, one hopes the Unz Review has a hygienic practice of maintaining the minimum amount commenter metadata.

  100. @ben tillman

    Legal boards were one of the last good obscure niches on the internet where smart, creative, interesting people could have unmoderated discussion. AutoAdmit’s days are clearly numbered and JDU has already been dismantled.
     
    Those legal boards sure kept a low profile. I never heard of any such places. And what is JDU? Google is no help.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    The more obscure, the better. There used to be many, during the height of “The Law School Scam” period. Disaffected and under/unemployed lawyers would congregate to discuss job opportunities, rates of pay in doc review, discuss what small shops to avoid working in etc and it went from there, taking on a life of its own

  101. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Check out his picture. He looks strikingly similar to a nerdy (said w/ love) prematurely-balding blogger of Jewish heritage who has recently been in the news. He's also a writer for a television show.
    Garden variety case of walking stereotype.

    Also, this guy was extremely sloppy in revealing personal details on that forum and slipping in Easter eggs in Tucker's scripts.

    Easter eggs being factoids or phrases that would be innocuous/unremarkable to the public at large but recognizable to members of that community as essentially shout outs. It would be like one of us getting onto a show and somehow working the word whiskey into a conversation on miscegenation and then coming on here and pointing it out.

    That nexus with work would make the firing pretty automatic anywhere, even before the new normal of mass purges of the last month.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Neff is from South Dakota, which would suggest he’s gentile.

    People tend to associate German sounding surnames with Jews in the US because lots of American Jews have German surnames. But the vast majority of American Jews are from the coasts and places like Chicago. People from flyover states like the Dakotas with Germanic surnames tend to be gentiles with German, Dutch, Scandinavian etc. ancestry.

  102. @Reg Cæsar
    For anyone looking to decamp from these once-United States, Che's birthplace is on the market:


    Che Guevara's birth home is up for sale in Argentina


    Looks nice.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200712093453-01-guevara-birth-home-exlarge-169.jpg


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Che_Guevara_Rosario_2.jpg/640px-Che_Guevara_Rosario_2.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8R6uOVnoQ

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Justice, solidarity, and firing squads. In the mind of a Marxist, all three of these go well together.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Hibernian

    Speaking of Hibernians:

    "Ernesto Guevara was born to Ernesto Guevara Lynch and Celia de la Serna y Llosa, on 14 June 1928, in Rosario, Argentina. He was the eldest of five children in a middle-class Argentine family of Spanish (including Basque and Cantabrian) descent, as well as Irish by means of his patrilineal ancestor Patrick Lynch. Although Guevara's legal name on his birth certificate was "Ernesto Guevara", his name sometimes appears with "de la Serna" and/or "Lynch" accompanying it.Referring to Che's "restless" nature, his father declared "the first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Early_life

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Ben tillman

  103. @Hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    Fred MacMurray’s character in Double Indemnity is named Walter Neff.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool, @syonredux

  104. @Achmed E. Newman
    Unless it's a big help for you with professional connections, etc., don't join even LinkedIn, much less Facebook or heaven forbid, MySpace. That deal with the reflections in the pictures was very poor op-sec. Why not just use an image off Bing, if possible, or be careful at least*?

    The fact is, though, if a guy that knew Mr. Neff wrote the email to get him in trouble, I'm sure he could get enough general information off his comments to dox him with, though maybe not to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a court of law, were there a jury of his peers (haha).

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don't need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, "sexist", "bigoted", "homophobic", and "racist" are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.


    .

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer? Could a computer-guy here answer that one for me?

    I guess one could just print-screen on the computer, then work on it. I know this is extreme paranoia, and only a top-notch government agency (like those shown in Jason Bourne movies - see also Part 2 and Part 3) would be up for matching the info to a phone, hence ID information.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Adam Smith, @syonredux

    do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?

    This photo has exif data including GPS data…

    A photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the location and time it was taken, and the type of device it was taken with, but there is no unique identifier for the phone or camera per se.

    For example, unless the exif data was altered, the above photo was taken with an iphone 4 on September 4, 2011.

    This is the GPS data I found embedded in that .jpg using exiftool…

    GPS Altitude : 0 m Above Sea Level
    GPS Date/Time : 2011:09:04 11:07:47Z
    GPS Latitude : 38 deg 54′ 35.40″ N
    GPS Longitude : 1 deg 26′ 19.20″ E
    GPS Position : 38 deg 54′ 35.40″ N, 1 deg 26′ 19.20″ E

    https://exiftool.org/

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiftool

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exif

    https://www.pic2map.com/

    If you’re looking to determine the unique camera from which a photo was taken then you’re talking about something called Photo Response Non Uniformity. Photo Response Non Uniformity has been used for Source Camera Identification. That is a little more complicated than reading exif data…

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Your-phones-camera-has-a-unique-ID-you-never-knew-about_id87786

    And here is a paper that explores different methods of image source anonymization. Evidently a Photo Response Non Uniformity pattern can be transferred from one image to another for malicious use or deception…

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ACEE5532-D0FE-9AA7-170A92520C7C0321_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    Interestingly, whatever photo editing software the staff of PeakStupidity is using to resize images is stripping most the photos of most of their exif data. I did find some data in the pizza photo. It informs me that the device on which that photo was taken is associated with an apple profile that was created on July 7, 2017. There is no GPS data in the pizza photo.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @Adam Smith

    Don't know why that last link stopped working, try this one instead...

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ADC0DB9F-BBB3-EE53-6B750D625A08BAAE_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    https://www.osapublishing.org/oe/abstract.cfm?uri=oe-22-1-470

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Adam Smith

    There are plenty of cameras that will embed unique serial number information in the EXIF metadata.

    EXIF field code #EXIF5002 is specifically allocated for this purpose.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Adam Smith

    Mr. Smith, firstly I'm so glad to have someone like you who can answer these questions in somewhat of a nutshell! (Of course, you know I know of your computer bonafides from your comments on Peak Stupidity.)

    Now, the PRNU business (I just read your first linked-to article) is interesting. I suppose, so long as that PRNU profile was not saved by the manufacturer, someone can tell which pictures came from the same phone, but not whom that phone belongs to (barring a search warrant and your forgetting to flush your phone down the toilet).

    Regarding the metadata stuff (to you and TWGH), I figured it worked like that. Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it's own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg? The next question is if you do a "save image" of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?

    Peak Stupidity mostly gets photos off of bing images, so whatever info is contained doesn't give away anything. Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there. No, that pizza was not mine. We eat the pepperonis right away, so the swasticker couldn't have lasted long enough for a photo!

    Thanks for all the great information. Of course, I've got nothing to hide. This is for a friend of mine, yeah, that's the ticket.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  105. @Anonymous
    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    Replies: @I Have Scinde, @Almost Missouri, @al gore rhythms, @Thoughts, @anon

    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for ‘throwing him under the bus’ and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as ‘taking one for the team’ which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff’s remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don’t hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @al gore rhythms

    You have laid out a good response.

    But I can't help but think that Neff did nothing wrong, and is just being punished for having the wrong political thoughts.

    Our side still has the mentality that if we are nice enough, the Left will not continue their campaign of crushing and obliterating us.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    , @Anonymous
    @al gore rhythms


    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for ‘throwing him under the bus’ and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as ‘taking one for the team’ which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff’s remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don’t hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.
     

    This is very good.
  106. @Hypnotoad666
    @Cato

    The real target of course is Tucker himself. The Left Propaganda Machine is scared of him and are working overtime with oppo research, boycotts, and efforts to take him down.

    But I think Tucker is confident because he knows he has options now. There is a huge business opportunity for anyone who can set up a quality media property to the right of Fox. It's the same move Fox made originally -- to be the only outlet for a vast underserved market.

    Tucker already started and sold the Daily Caller. He would be well-positioned set up this new network. Hopefully Trump won't lose. But if he does that would be a natural project for him to get involved in as well.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy

    The real target of course is Tucker himself.

    They are both real targets. Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Tucker is not a target. Y'all be smoking some good shit. Cuz he's one of them.

    , @Clyde
    @anon


    Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.
     
    Correct. By severely limiting what can be publicly discussed. Your job is in danger if you stray outside. The right intelligentsia gets neutered. And this is the same shit-hook left that self-righteously crusaded against McCarthyism, which was not even one tenth as pervasive as what censorship racket the left goon squads are running today.
  107. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman


    do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?
     
    This photo has exif data including GPS data...

    https://exposingtheinvisible.org/ckeditor_assets/pictures/32/content_example_ibiza.jpg

    A photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the location and time it was taken, and the type of device it was taken with, but there is no unique identifier for the phone or camera per se.

    For example, unless the exif data was altered, the above photo was taken with an iphone 4 on September 4, 2011.

    This is the GPS data I found embedded in that .jpg using exiftool...

    GPS Altitude : 0 m Above Sea Level
    GPS Date/Time : 2011:09:04 11:07:47Z
    GPS Latitude : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N
    GPS Longitude : 1 deg 26' 19.20" E
    GPS Position : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N, 1 deg 26' 19.20" E

    https://exiftool.org/

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiftool

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exif

    https://www.pic2map.com/

    If you're looking to determine the unique camera from which a photo was taken then you're talking about something called Photo Response Non Uniformity. Photo Response Non Uniformity has been used for Source Camera Identification. That is a little more complicated than reading exif data...

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Your-phones-camera-has-a-unique-ID-you-never-knew-about_id87786

    And here is a paper that explores different methods of image source anonymization. Evidently a Photo Response Non Uniformity pattern can be transferred from one image to another for malicious use or deception...

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ACEE5532-D0FE-9AA7-170A92520C7C0321_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    Interestingly, whatever photo editing software the staff of PeakStupidity is using to resize images is stripping most the photos of most of their exif data. I did find some data in the pizza photo. It informs me that the device on which that photo was taken is associated with an apple profile that was created on July 7, 2017. There is no GPS data in the pizza photo.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Achmed E. Newman

  108. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    Tucker could say, “We believe in freedom and we don’t look into our staff’s private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life.”

    This seems insufficient here. It may be better to address the substance of Neff’s comments, on moral grounds. You do so later in your comment:

    His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties.

    What if Tucker said that?

  109. @Thoughts
    I don't think Jake Neff or even Tucker Carlson is on our side

    Why do I think this?

    - I said the other day in the Tucker For President thread, Tucker's not the guy doing the writing...the interesting people are his writers

    - A few days later they take out the head writer and make it national news

    - This lends credence to Tucker Carlson being a 'real conservative' which I do not think he is. Tucker Carlson is way too good looking to be a true blue Heartiste reader. Good-looking people have super easy lives and everyone..black, hispanic, asian, jewish, muslim...are always nice to them...so they become naive about human nature. When everyone loves you, you love everyone.

    I think this fake news story about Neff serves several goals:

    1) Making people think Carlson is a real conservative
    2) Making people think there are 'secret' conservatives in the writer's room---There aren't.
    3) Scares people into not posting anything online. Shutting down discourse, stopping the spread of ideas. They need to scare people into silence

    I could be wrong. But it was just too timely with the 'Tucker for President' meme.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @SunBakedSuburb

    “the interesting people are his writers”

    When I think of writers I don’t think interesting. I just think of a bag of assholes.

  110. @Anonymous
    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    Replies: @I Have Scinde, @Almost Missouri, @al gore rhythms, @Thoughts, @anon

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter

    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Problem. Solved.

    Maybe a butt-slapping video, and of the wife or gf (in a white men’s shirt) running away giggling.

    It would be super fun though if Tucker were to be like ‘Our Head Writer, Neff, has left to pursue other interests’ and then on the screen a Photo of Neff with a Super Hot Chick looking adoringly at him.

    This is how we’ll win.

    • Replies: @Marat
    @Thoughts

    Maybe Fox conveniently benefits by this timing in solving their Tucker “problem”. The Murdoch boys are subsidizing cable’s biggest talent hour afterall, due to the cowering fascist 500 who became too terrified to advertise. Maybe he should move to a paying subscriber situation - he’s too important to be left to the vagaries of Fox’s board.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Thoughts


    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter
    Tucker does the same with his wife.
     
    Paris Hilton shows the way:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBl42KO7JOo



    This covers the same spot, but more striking is the mask reference at the beginning-- 12 years before they became a fad:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY3IvLPUrRk&t=9s
    , @Ben tillman
    @Thoughts

    What in the world?

    Replies: @Thoughts

  111. Semi-OT:

    One of the founders of official corporate cancel culture is trying to cancel her partner.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/07/10/peak-2020-co-founder-cancel-culture-activist-group-wants-cancel-partner-canceled-something/

    I don’t know much about “Sleeping Giants,” but she is really proud of all the companies and people she has gotten canceled, which is just kind of sad.

    Her own site continues to gloat about all the companies she has canceled, but ultimately she looks like she’s mostly in it for the money. She’s all about corporate brand consulting now. It’s like a protection racket for companies from the hordes of fifth grade girls that our society has become who won’t let us sit at their table in the cafeteria.

    https://nandinijammi.com/

    Maybe her partner can come out as trans and just crush her.

  112. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Hypnotoad666


    The real target of course is Tucker himself.
     
    They are both real targets. Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Clyde

    Tucker is not a target. Y’all be smoking some good shit. Cuz he’s one of them.

  113. @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    As Almost Missouri, pointed out, she resolutely defends those that to. Not every single white woman has to marry and have children. If she did have children, perhaps she would be more circumspect in what she says, fearing that she might damage their life prospects. As an unattached woman, she is at more liberty to tell it like it is.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

  114. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    You explained it well, but I can’t help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling’s “Earth arose and crushed it”.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @bomag

    From your post to God’s ears.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @bomag

    Yeah, I'm waiting for the Army Of The Disaffected to reach critical mass, such that it has internet registrars and payment processors and heck, even a currency would be nice. Then I can join too.

    Maybe after November 4th...

    , @Boomer Lives Matter
    @bomag


    You explained it well, but I can’t help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling’s “Earth arose and crushed it”.

     

    will it, though? This army of the disaffected will still be quite small, numerically. As long as the vast majority of whites are comfortable in their everyday lives, as long as babies don't die, as long as the food is plentiful and cheap, as long as the heat and A/C work, as long as our cars whisk us away in comfort, there will be no revolution, and the elites can continue to sell us out...

    Yes, there were revolts aplenty in the past, even in america...but the everyday comforts of life were not as great as they are today...technology has bought our treasonous elites a lot of leeway...and they are talking advantage of that fact...

    Replies: @Sam Malone

  115. @ATBOTL
    @anonymous

    Tucker Carlson is just Rush Limbaugh 2.0. His job is to keep you on the GOP plantation. It's the same schtick, he just changes "freedom" to "nationalism." Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation. Anyone else remember his clownish bowtie boy neocon act from the 90's? He was a smarmy idiot mindlessly parroting globalization era establishment talking points.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @JohnnyWalker123

    People do change. Pat Buchanan did. Ann Coulter did. Why there was a time when Steve himself used to write for the National Review (although I don’t think that Steve has changed, so much as NR did).

    • Agree: Muggles
  116. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    I don’t know what Neff’s family circumstances are. But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.
    Six months at Muay Thai, in a far way foreign land, very different culture, will give a whole new perspective on life and toughen him up for his next job. He looks like a hairless blob.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Clyde



    But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.

     

    I'd do it myself if I wasn't so badass already.

    Replies: @Clyde

  117. @Cato
    @Anonymous

    From AutoAdmit:


    according to the hollywood reporter article

    "[poster], as recent as this week, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" CNN reported that Neff responded to the post, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.""

    and

    " [poster]'s post also called out Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — writing that the group wants to "MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES.""

     

    As noted on AutoAdmit, the first comment was misunderstood as dissing Asians, when it was actually about LASIK. The second comment is not what one would call "racist", perhaps a bit insensitive.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Roger, @Mr. Anon

    I guess this is what the NY Times puts down as:

    he contributed to message threads in which other writers used racial slurs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/business/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff.html

    This is mild stuff, but I guess that if I want to keep my job, I better not comment on any thread where someone else has used an ethnic slur.

  118. @Hypnotoad666
    @Cato

    The real target of course is Tucker himself. The Left Propaganda Machine is scared of him and are working overtime with oppo research, boycotts, and efforts to take him down.

    But I think Tucker is confident because he knows he has options now. There is a huge business opportunity for anyone who can set up a quality media property to the right of Fox. It's the same move Fox made originally -- to be the only outlet for a vast underserved market.

    Tucker already started and sold the Daily Caller. He would be well-positioned set up this new network. Hopefully Trump won't lose. But if he does that would be a natural project for him to get involved in as well.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy

    It’s interesting, a night or two before this happened, Tucker was questioning why Ghislaine Maxwell came back to America. He was implying that something funny was going on. Deal making, etc.

    “I know she has at least one foreign passport,” he sneered, with pointed disgust, referring to her dual citizenship (and peculiar relationship) with Israel. “Wow!” I thought. “That’s kind of ballsy, Tucker. Better watch it.”

    And here we are.

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous, HammerJack
    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @JimDandy

    Tucker dogwhistles ever so vaguely about Jewish/Israeli control of America. Big Deal. Bill O'Reilly would do something similar with "Hollywood liberals." This is just more of the same with a younger face and slight updates to the rhetoric.

    One thing Tucker could do if he were serious would be to go after the ADL hard. The ADL is the leader and coordinator of the modern censorship movement. It's also really powerful, overtly Jewish and essentially part of the Israeli state. If Tucker were to make the ADL the main target of his rage for months and call the group "anti-white," point out that the ADL are specifically Zionist Jews rather than just generic "liberals," we would be getting somewhere. The ADL is indefensible.
    Most conservatives, even pro-Israel ones, hate the ADL and would love to hear it being ripped to shreds.

    Let's see Tucker do that and also make it clear that the Israeli state is behind the Epstein child-rape gang. Then connect that to the Palestinians. Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. That would be the kind of thing that would have a real impact on white Americans. That's the kind of thing that would lead to real change in America. What Tucker does now is just "totally extreme," generation X flavored GOP cheerleading.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  119. @anon
    @Hypnotoad666


    The real target of course is Tucker himself.
     
    They are both real targets. Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Clyde

    Any White man with talent, integrity, and the courage of his convictions is a target. It is part of a strategy to decapitate White intellectual and leadership resources from the White body politic.

    Correct. By severely limiting what can be publicly discussed. Your job is in danger if you stray outside. The right intelligentsia gets neutered. And this is the same shit-hook left that self-righteously crusaded against McCarthyism, which was not even one tenth as pervasive as what censorship racket the left goon squads are running today.

  120. @Cato
    @Anonymous

    From AutoAdmit:


    according to the hollywood reporter article

    "[poster], as recent as this week, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" CNN reported that Neff responded to the post, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.""

    and

    " [poster]'s post also called out Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — writing that the group wants to "MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES.""

     

    As noted on AutoAdmit, the first comment was misunderstood as dissing Asians, when it was actually about LASIK. The second comment is not what one would call "racist", perhaps a bit insensitive.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Roger, @Mr. Anon

    The second comment is not what one would call “racist”, perhaps a bit insensitive.

    Actually, I’d call it “true”.

  121. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    I knew this was nothing when, of all the supposedly hundreds of offensive comments, the ones in the article were so bland.

    I'd like to be a fly on the wall to conversations of left-wing journalists, black protesters, black anyone, Democratic politicians.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’d like to be a fly on the wall to conversations of left-wing journalists, black protesters, black anyone, Democratic politicians.

    Hmmm… How bout this?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous

    Lower the camera ~ 8 inches and mash mute. It's WAY more pleasant to watch that way.

  122. Stop calling them journolists

    Start calling them what they are: TERRORISTS

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @216


    Stop calling them journolists

    Start calling them what they are: TERRORISTS
     
    and Hacks.

    What a combination.
  123. @syonredux
    @syonredux


    In December 2019, he said that “once Democrats have the majorities to go full F**K WHITEY, things are going to get really wacky really quickly.” He argued at the time that there is a “large minority of whites who are fully supportive of a F**k Whitey agenda” and that “there’s a suicidal impulse to Western peoples that honestly feels almost biological in origin.”
     
    Quite prescient.......

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @216

    Most people don’t care if we lose self-determination.

    They say we deserve it because our ancestors were conquerors.

    No one calls the ANC government a tyrannical dictatorship, even though a conservative government cannot be elected.

  124. @Inselaffen
    On the flip side I guess that means there's a vacancy. Why don't you send in your CV, Steve?

    Replies: @Clyde

    On the flip side I guess that means there’s a vacancy. Why don’t you send in your CV, Steve?

    Get real! The slot that just opened up at Tucker. That plum job is going to a POC or a lesbian bull dyke. Can you imagine if the tptb at Fox forced Tucker to hire a trans-whatever to make Tucker bullet proof? Stranger things have happened.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Clyde

    I hereby volunteer to put on the dress in order to funnel iSteve content directly into cable news watchers' homes.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  125. The race and homophobic stuff looked quite mild to me. More disturbing was him posting about some random acquaintances’ dating history. Now I’m all for the 1st amendment but that does seem creepy

  126. Anonymous[967] • Disclaimer says:

    Guess what’s trending on Twitter.

    But it’s Jews being ironic.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23JewishPrivilege&src=trend_click

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Anonymous

    They can do that now because twitter has purged most remaining dissident accounts since the BLM riots started. With no censorship at all on twitter, serious posts about Jewish privilege would outnumber ironic ones at least 10-1.

  127. @Clyde
    @Inselaffen


    On the flip side I guess that means there’s a vacancy. Why don’t you send in your CV, Steve?
     
    Get real! The slot that just opened up at Tucker. That plum job is going to a POC or a lesbian bull dyke. Can you imagine if the tptb at Fox forced Tucker to hire a trans-whatever to make Tucker bullet proof? Stranger things have happened.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I hereby volunteer to put on the dress in order to funnel iSteve content directly into cable news watchers’ homes.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Chrisnonymous

    Volunteer, that's a good one! What about the dress you have on now? Note to my employer and iSteve, I was just kidding, not transphobic, pls no firing or banz as applicable. I'm a good little doggie, honest I am.

  128. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard
    @syonredux

    Sounds like this Neff guy will make a great Unz writer.

    He's spot on about a large percentage of whites having a biologically-based urge to cheer on their own destruction.

    Replies: @anon

    He’s spot on about a large percentage of whites having a biologically-based urge to cheer on their own destruction.

    A large percentage of Whites have a biologically-based urge to hold a job that feeds their families and to have a place in polite society. You’ve got to control for the enormous coercion/disincentives being applied to white people, before you can draw any conclusions about “biology.”

    • Agree: HammerJack, dfordoom
  129. @bomag
    @Almost Missouri


    In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.
     
    You explained it well, but I can't help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling's "Earth arose and crushed it".

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Almost Missouri, @Boomer Lives Matter

    From your post to God’s ears.

  130. @Clyde
    @Almost Missouri

    I don't know what Neff's family circumstances are. But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.
    Six months at Muay Thai, in a far way foreign land, very different culture, will give a whole new perspective on life and toughen him up for his next job. He looks like a hairless blob.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JnEyHDOkQU

    Replies: @Pericles

    But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.

    I’d do it myself if I wasn’t so badass already.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Pericles

    You are a reasonable and intelligent Scandinavian so you would only need 4 months in a Muay Thai camp in the Thai countryside to set you (more) right.

    Matter of fact you could get rich setting them up right where you are. Out in the country and those who enter sign a 4 month agreement. They will forfeit their payment if they leave too soon. All male of course. I visited Sweden for just one day, before you were born. 1973. But spent months in Denmark.

  131. @bomag
    @Bobbocio


    Who knows what MSM’s policy will be tomorrow?
     
    Indeed.

    Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Kratoklastes

    >>Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.<<

    Yes! Beria too! Actually all of the NKVD heads were purged/killed but one guy in the late 20s who died of actual heart disease.

    Of course the Kancellation Komrades are not so powerful or even to be feared.

    Of course if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly. Just common sense unless you want to screen potential customers/employers for their politics.

    I should also note something relevant here. Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    I tried to argue that there was no reason to be fearful, and that if you acted as if you were in the USSR you may as well be there already. Still, people were very afraid of the IRS especially.

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

    • Agree: JackOH, V. K. Ovelund
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @Muggles


    Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.
     
    I'd be curious to know what time period you're talking about - the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Muggles

    A lot of people wonder why Whites acquiesced so easily on issues like segregation, interracial marriage, and mass non-Euro migration. I think your post offers a glimpse into the thought process of the average middle-class White suburbanite. These lines are especially relevant.


    if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly.
     

    many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.
     

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

     

    Way back in the "old days," most Whites lived in difficult circumstances and had to fight for survival. So Whites grew up to be scrappy and tough. That's why they reacted so ferociously, often engaging in race riots and labor riots.

    During the post-WWII era, many Whites moved from gritty urban areas and hardscrabble small towns into leafy suburbs. It was at that point that prosperity became a reality for the masses.
    However, with prosperity, came the fear that you could lose it all and go back into poverty. So people became more subservient to the increasingly powerful govt and big corps, who had the power to destroy people's lives.

    When the Jews took control of the media and govt during the 60s and 70s, they forced a civil rights agenda down the throats of the White masses. While most Whites didn't like it at all, they feared the consequences of fighting back. Of course, some did fight back, but they got punished. That served as an example for everyone else.

    At this point, you've had several generations of Whites who've grown up in relative comfort and are fairly effete as a consequence. Whites also exist in a social milieu that's increasingly atomized, so nobody has anybody's back anymore. That's why something like labor agitation, which used to be so frequent in America, no longer exists.

    Replies: @JackOH

  132. @JimDandy
    @Hypnotoad666

    It's interesting, a night or two before this happened, Tucker was questioning why Ghislaine Maxwell came back to America. He was implying that something funny was going on. Deal making, etc.

    "I know she has at least one foreign passport," he sneered, with pointed disgust, referring to her dual citizenship (and peculiar relationship) with Israel. "Wow!" I thought. "That's kind of ballsy, Tucker. Better watch it."

    And here we are.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    Tucker dogwhistles ever so vaguely about Jewish/Israeli control of America. Big Deal. Bill O’Reilly would do something similar with “Hollywood liberals.” This is just more of the same with a younger face and slight updates to the rhetoric.

    One thing Tucker could do if he were serious would be to go after the ADL hard. The ADL is the leader and coordinator of the modern censorship movement. It’s also really powerful, overtly Jewish and essentially part of the Israeli state. If Tucker were to make the ADL the main target of his rage for months and call the group “anti-white,” point out that the ADL are specifically Zionist Jews rather than just generic “liberals,” we would be getting somewhere. The ADL is indefensible.
    Most conservatives, even pro-Israel ones, hate the ADL and would love to hear it being ripped to shreds.

    Let’s see Tucker do that and also make it clear that the Israeli state is behind the Epstein child-rape gang. Then connect that to the Palestinians. Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. That would be the kind of thing that would have a real impact on white Americans. That’s the kind of thing that would lead to real change in America. What Tucker does now is just “totally extreme,” generation X flavored GOP cheerleading.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @ATBOTL

    At Fox, he could do what you're suggesting for approximately one show, and it would never air. But who knows, maybe after he does eventually get fired from Fox, he will go rogue and create an indie platform and get more candid on those issues and others.

    Probably not, though. The lack of true freedom of speech in America is very depressing. There are different levels of hell, though, and I'm very glad that Hillary Clinton is not our president, and I'm also glad that the worst of the worst Zionist Neocons--from Max Boot to Jennifer Rubin to Bill Kristol--are still crying themselves to sleep over Trump's win. (And no, that's not an act to bamboozle the goyim.) Also, I really, really don't want Biden to win the election. I won't argue with you if you tell me that Trump is a terrible president, but relative to Biden? Or anyone else who had an actual chance to win?

    BTW, what does this mean?

    "Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. "

    Replies: @Clyde, @128

  133. @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.
     
    Carlson "throwing him under the bus" is an egregiously invalid characterization.

    Neff took an extended "flyer" by posting to an outlier group–that is, outliers in the general public discourse–and got nailed by his passionate, some say crazy, opposition. So now his boss has been dragged into it, which hampers his bosses ability to communicate, which is what Carlson is paid to do.

    When you have more of a voice, you are saddled with more responsibility. Carlson didn’t ask Neff to post in that forum. Neff chose to. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    CNN's game is easy to identify: deconstruct satirical comments as literal, and mischaracterize a man's "shorthand" flip remarks as the doors into that man's heart–unless it’s one of them.

    Neff made himself vulnerable to that game, and by doing so, brought his boss into it.

    I’ve worked for many corporations. If I brought my boss unwillingly into a public shitstorm, simply because of my ego, I would expect to be fired. The specifics of the elements that produced the outcome are irrelevant. Neff could have posted "there is no god," and if he was found out, Carlson would be right to let him go. It would be too polarizing a claim, going outside the general preview of Carlson's show, whether Carlson agreed or not.

    Neff was fucking around. His job is connected to his boss. He brought his boss into it... and that’s that.

    I believe if I had Neff's plumb job, I’d NEVER post on ANY outlier site, anonymously or not. It’s just good corporate hygiene. And for fuck's sake! He was getting paid VERY well NOT to! That responsibility is a part of his pay scale.

    Professionally, Neff was a slob. He inadvertently brought his stink to work with him. Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it. Has nothing to do with Fox in general, or Carlson's personal inclinations in particular. More to do with Neff's ego.

    It’s ironic, but typical that the ego required for Neff to earn his professional position is the same ego that wound up cutting him off at the knees.

    Neff's antagonist to overcome isn’t Fox, or even CNN.

    It’s him. His existential battle is with himself.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @V. K. Ovelund

    Also, he’s fat.

  134. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    The Murdoch sons will have gotten their damage control boys (crisis external corporate communications) on the job immediately, when Neff forwarded the CNN message to them. They (CECC) then wrote the scripts for Suzanne Scott, Jay Wallace, and Tucker, pending approval by Legal.

    Scott and Wallace’s decision to fire Neff would, however, have been automatic.

    It’s a fait accompli, and Tucker has no say in the matter.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  135. @botazefa
    @Ron Unz

    Ron - what would you do if you got a subpoena for email addresses of participants here?

    What if Patreon got a subpoena?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Almost Missouri

    It won’t be (mostly fake) email addresses they want. It’ll be such things as IP locators, and more. Some of which they probably have already anyway.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @HammerJack

    What is an IP locator? It's not like the geographic location of subnets aren't well known.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  136. @Chrisnonymous
    @Clyde

    I hereby volunteer to put on the dress in order to funnel iSteve content directly into cable news watchers' homes.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Volunteer, that’s a good one! What about the dress you have on now? Note to my employer and iSteve, I was just kidding, not transphobic, pls no firing or banz as applicable. I’m a good little doggie, honest I am.

  137. • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Charles did nothing wrong


    Here is a commentary on the text of the CNN article, refuting the scurrilous notion that Tucker’s writer posted anything racist.
     
    Would it be good if Tucker Carlson went through these item-by-item on his show on Monday night?
    , @Henry's Cat
    @Charles did nothing wrong

    Everything's racism.

  138. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @guest007


    Is no one else suspicious that this doxxing occur right after Tucker Carlson picked a fight with Senator Tammy Duckworth.
     
    I was surprised he went there at all.

    The Overton window hasn't shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    The Overton window hasn’t shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.

    The Overton Window has shifted a lot under the Trump Presidency. The only trouble is, it’s shifted to the Left.

    If Trump is re-elected it will shift even further Left.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @dfordoom

    The Overton Window has shifted a lot under the Trump Presidency. The only trouble is, it’s shifted to the Left.

    Scott Alexander actually predicted as much. Trump attempted to launch a full frontal attack on the enemy from a position of weakness. Jeff Davis or Tojo could have told him how well that usually works out.

  139. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman


    do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?
     
    This photo has exif data including GPS data...

    https://exposingtheinvisible.org/ckeditor_assets/pictures/32/content_example_ibiza.jpg

    A photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the location and time it was taken, and the type of device it was taken with, but there is no unique identifier for the phone or camera per se.

    For example, unless the exif data was altered, the above photo was taken with an iphone 4 on September 4, 2011.

    This is the GPS data I found embedded in that .jpg using exiftool...

    GPS Altitude : 0 m Above Sea Level
    GPS Date/Time : 2011:09:04 11:07:47Z
    GPS Latitude : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N
    GPS Longitude : 1 deg 26' 19.20" E
    GPS Position : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N, 1 deg 26' 19.20" E

    https://exiftool.org/

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiftool

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exif

    https://www.pic2map.com/

    If you're looking to determine the unique camera from which a photo was taken then you're talking about something called Photo Response Non Uniformity. Photo Response Non Uniformity has been used for Source Camera Identification. That is a little more complicated than reading exif data...

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Your-phones-camera-has-a-unique-ID-you-never-knew-about_id87786

    And here is a paper that explores different methods of image source anonymization. Evidently a Photo Response Non Uniformity pattern can be transferred from one image to another for malicious use or deception...

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ACEE5532-D0FE-9AA7-170A92520C7C0321_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    Interestingly, whatever photo editing software the staff of PeakStupidity is using to resize images is stripping most the photos of most of their exif data. I did find some data in the pizza photo. It informs me that the device on which that photo was taken is associated with an apple profile that was created on July 7, 2017. There is no GPS data in the pizza photo.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Achmed E. Newman

    There are plenty of cameras that will embed unique serial number information in the EXIF metadata.

    EXIF field code #EXIF5002 is specifically allocated for this purpose.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  140. @Kyle
    The one advantage to being a nobody, living in flyover country, working for a boss who’s a big trump guy. Nobody alive could possibly care about me. Plus this is unz, nobody can admit unz even exists. If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.
    Tucker is going to do what is prudent for him. I respect his decisions. But it would be totally B.A. if he just quit. Cable Tv is dead.

    Replies: @Kyle, @MarkinLA, @Anonymous

    It would be great if Tucker showed how insignificant the posts were and called on Fox to rehire him. Of course Tucker would be fired.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MarkinLA


    It would be great if Tucker showed how insignificant the posts were and called on Fox to rehire him.
     
    All he has to do is discuss how insignificant, joking, or factual the posts are. Contextualize them. And express sorrow for hurt feelings.
  141. @J1234
    @syonredux

    Yeah, nothing really racist, in that Neff's coarsely stated observations are largely accurate, except for maybe his "Congo ......" comment (which I'm guessing is the main reason he was fired.) Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn't been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are...and more importantly, how important Tucker's mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?

    I actually know the answer to that...because I vent in similar ways when the frustration factor with the far left gets high enough. And our country still has a first amendment...for the time being. It's wrong that he was made to quit, but the practical truth is that if he didn't, probably the Ted Cruz's and Jim Jordan's of the world would stop appearing on Tucker's segments.

    When all is said and done, however, Neff's comments are an example of someone from the right defacing the metaphorical monuments of the left. Those monuments are eventually coming down, one way or another.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Anonymous

    And our country still has a first amendment…

    Which in practice no longer protects free speech. If you can have your career wrecked and your life destroyed for trying to exercise free speech then you no longer have free speech.

    Which is something the Right seems to be incapable of understanding.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  142. @Anonymous
    Guess what's trending on Twitter.

    But it's Jews being ironic.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23JewishPrivilege&src=trend_click

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    They can do that now because twitter has purged most remaining dissident accounts since the BLM riots started. With no censorship at all on twitter, serious posts about Jewish privilege would outnumber ironic ones at least 10-1.

  143. @bomag
    @Almost Missouri


    In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.
     
    You explained it well, but I can't help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling's "Earth arose and crushed it".

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Almost Missouri, @Boomer Lives Matter

    Yeah, I’m waiting for the Army Of The Disaffected to reach critical mass, such that it has internet registrars and payment processors and heck, even a currency would be nice. Then I can join too.

    Maybe after November 4th…

  144. @The Alarmist
    @ben tillman

    Well, he did say that he wouldn't get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free. But I think the real offense was referring to Asians as Azn in other posts. The stalking/mocking of the womyn is douchey, but not the stuff worthy of a lynching.

    Replies: @nobodyofnowhere, @MarkinLA

    Well, he did say that he wouldn’t get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free.

    Given the context of a thread asking if people’d get LASIK done by someone from Congo for half off, it seemed like a pretty clear reference to affirmative action to me, with the meaning that ben tillman inferred from it.

    If anything, his “offense” in that comment is the implication that he’d take race into account in choosing his doctor.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @nobodyofnowhere


    If anything, his “offense” in that comment is the implication that he’d take race into account in choosing his doctor.
     
    Nobody speaking from their heart of hearts would tell you they don't.

    I remember sitting in a USAF Doc's office and seeing his diploma on display from a university in Puerto Rico. It didn't bother me that he was Puerto Rican, but I did wonder what kind of rep the school had for the doctors it turned out.
  145. @The Alarmist
    @ben tillman

    Well, he did say that he wouldn't get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free. But I think the real offense was referring to Asians as Azn in other posts. The stalking/mocking of the womyn is douchey, but not the stuff worthy of a lynching.

    Replies: @nobodyofnowhere, @MarkinLA

    You never watched Street Outlaws? It’s the name of the Asian guy.

    https://okcfarmtruck.com/blogs/news/azn-breaks-an-axle

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @MarkinLA

    Never saw it. Thanks. I thought it was just a cute shortcut.

  146. @Muggles
    @bomag

    >>Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.<<

    Yes! Beria too! Actually all of the NKVD heads were purged/killed but one guy in the late 20s who died of actual heart disease.

    Of course the Kancellation Komrades are not so powerful or even to be feared.

    Of course if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly. Just common sense unless you want to screen potential customers/employers for their politics.

    I should also note something relevant here. Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    I tried to argue that there was no reason to be fearful, and that if you acted as if you were in the USSR you may as well be there already. Still, people were very afraid of the IRS especially.

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @JohnnyWalker123

    Fear of speaking up isn’t new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    I’d be curious to know what time period you’re talking about – the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Sam Malone

    >>I’d be curious to know what time period you’re talking about – the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?<<

    Early 70s and beyond. For a while every April 15th or so. Houston.

    I never heard of any concerns about the media. Back then several TV stations and one or both major newspapers would often cover these. There were regular "last minute" April 15th filing rushes at the major downtown P.O. so there was always media. Sometimes we did the downtown federal building also.

    But some of the public voiced concerns over being "on the list" with the IRS. Since we didn't keep lists and cameras were rare back then, I really didn't get that concern. Of course the IRS might try to keep track of tax protesters who don't file, or those who urged others not to do so. We didn't advocate that in the demonstrations. Just generic bitching. But some people were very paranoid. I would say to them that we have "free speech" and if you are too afraid to speak, you may as well live elsewhere like Russia.

    There was no Social Media back then, or electronic tax filing. Overall we did get mostly positive feedback. (However I have a pending IRS FOIA request to see what if anything they did keep on me, FYI.)

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Anonymous

  147. @al gore rhythms
    @Anonymous

    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for 'throwing him under the bus' and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as 'taking one for the team' which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff's remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don't hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous

    You have laid out a good response.

    But I can’t help but think that Neff did nothing wrong, and is just being punished for having the wrong political thoughts.

    Our side still has the mentality that if we are nice enough, the Left will not continue their campaign of crushing and obliterating us.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @bomag

    I agree, and of course it's a truth generally acknowledged on right-wing blogs that the inevitable apology and retraction never works anyway. But in this case what would happen if Carlson said 'to hell with you, this is no big deal and we'll just carry on as if nothing has happened'? His programme already suffers from a lack of advertising, and I can well imagine that the bosses of the network get a lot of grief from people further up the political ladder for tolerating him. Carlson probably feels he is skating on thin ice as it is, and wouldn't want to use up any goodwill he has left on what is probably a lost cause.

  148. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kyle
    The one advantage to being a nobody, living in flyover country, working for a boss who’s a big trump guy. Nobody alive could possibly care about me. Plus this is unz, nobody can admit unz even exists. If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.
    Tucker is going to do what is prudent for him. I respect his decisions. But it would be totally B.A. if he just quit. Cable Tv is dead.

    Replies: @Kyle, @MarkinLA, @Anonymous

    If anyone admitted they even knew what unz was, they’d be complicit, guilt by association.

    Unz.com: the site that dare not speak its name.

    (Am I the only one who finds the “Lord Voldemort Effect” hilarious? There is something about posting on a website that is just too far gone that holds infinite appeal [to me, anyway].)

    I wonder if there are any leftist euphemisms for unz.com floating around? I expect referring to it as “that website” (or perhaps “the website”?) would get tedious rather quickly.

  149. @Barnard
    @anonymous

    Tucker is trying to stay on FOX, I am not sure I really understand why. The mob is going to force him out eventually and it is not like there is a long term future in cable news anyway. The average viewer is a senior citizen who still has a cable TV bundle. If Tucker isn't already working making a transition to an online only presence he controls, he should be? I doubt he would lose much of his audience.

    Replies: @Prester John

    Reading the iSteve piece, it only reinforces my fear that Carlson will be bye-byeski by January–either voluntarily or, uh, “voluntarily.” I don’t seem him being eighty-sixed but then again, we’ll see. By then he will have a podcast off and running

  150. @Mr. Anon
    @gate666


    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.
     
    As Almost Missouri, pointed out, she resolutely defends those that to. Not every single white woman has to marry and have children. If she did have children, perhaps she would be more circumspect in what she says, fearing that she might damage their life prospects. As an unattached woman, she is at more liberty to tell it like it is.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Art Deco

    Phyllis Schlafly, a role model from the past. After raising a large family she graduated law school and then single-handedly stopped the misnamed Equal Rights Amendment in its tracks!

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Art Deco

    A number of the women you mentioned are indeed "vaguely" right in the sense of not really being conservative at all. As a general rule, I am more inclined to trust people in government and "opinion making" (for want of a better term) who do have children, and therefore a direct stake in the future. My earlier post was a defence of Ann Coulter specifically. I think she is very much an exception.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Art Deco

    Helen Andrews is pregnant.

    https://twitter.com/herandrews/status/1254801831500435461?s=20

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco

    I never heard of most of those women, so I'm left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    The three I do know of, Coulter, McArdle and Malkin, have intelligent, interesting and important things to say. It may be that in two of those cases, they have sacrificed the possibility of family to do this, which should give us greater appreciation for their commitment to their craft and cause. I know in Malkin's case, she has had to pick up and move her family at short notice after credible death threats toward her from lefties who disagreed with what she said and would fight her to death to prevent her from saying it. One can understand that family and counter-elite punditry may be mutually exclusive for many.

    There seems to be a spergy assumption that because the right acknowledges gender differences and esteems family formation that this somehow translates into a yearning for some Handmaid's Tale myth. Not so. Handmaid's Tale holds no appeal to the right. Its sole appeal is to the left as a wish fulfillment tale of what they wish the right believed about them.

    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they'd just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they'd be more fulfilled without, is deplorable. Heck, it's not even exclusive to women. A good day in the office is worthless compared to a bad day with my kids.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Thomm
    @Art Deco


    Ann Coulter (childless spinster)
     
    And livin' it up, she is.

    I wrote an entire song that describes the totality of her business model of bilking naive cucks and needy WN incels who think she is on their side any more than the bare minimum required to make money, from the perspective of her boyfriend, Jimmy Walker. At least her boyfriend is conservative.

    I present, the famous song, Ann-O-Mite :

    -

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25b9ba593f7aec3bf46545cf514f8794eb3d3ebcef64bea1ae41743a12b10c70.jpg?w=800&h=924

  151. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA
    @Kyle

    It would be great if Tucker showed how insignificant the posts were and called on Fox to rehire him. Of course Tucker would be fired.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It would be great if Tucker showed how insignificant the posts were and called on Fox to rehire him.

    All he has to do is discuss how insignificant, joking, or factual the posts are. Contextualize them. And express sorrow for hurt feelings.

    • Troll: 3g4me
  152. @Ron Unz
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang


    I absolutely love Steve’s work and have been ardently following it since the iSteve days, but I think he’s next. AutoAdmit has (had?) maybe a few thousand users, tops, and “they” worked their way in there, so a site as prominent as this has GOT to be in the cross hairs
     
    I really tend to doubt that...

    Frankly, I'd never heard of either AutoAdmit or that Neff fellow, but for the MSM to get him purged, they obviously needed to cite some of the "horrific" comments he'd written, and reference the website where they appeared.

    However, this webzine benefits from "the Lord Voldemort Effect," namely that the ADL or some similarly powerful group has apparently issued an edict to the MSM that our existence must NEVER be mentioned. Since we can't be mentioned or linked, nothing anyone writes here can be used against them.

    For example, Stephen Miller is a *much* bigger target than that Neff fellow, and when the MSM was trying to get him purged last year, they could have very easily succeeded simply by associating him with some of the "horrific" things published on this website (e.g. my own articles). But they scrupulously avoided doing so because mentioning this website was totally forbidden. So unless some of you are much more bigger targets than Miller, anything you write here is probably safe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-self-cancels-his-blog-under-threat-of-being-doxed-by-the-nyt/#comment-3986316

    Replies: @Bobbocio, @HarvardMan, @Almost Missouri, @Henry's Cat, @Not Only Wrathful, @Intelligent Dasein, @anon, @prime noticer, @Chrisnonymous, @botazefa, @Ozymandias

    You couldn’t be more wrong, Ron. There’s already a scandal underway from an Unz doxxing. Some guy that Kris Kobach hired to file paperwork has been revealed to post at Unz.com. Kobach fired him, but a rival PAC is about to launch a multimillion dollar ad-blitz trying to smear Kobach as a racist who hires Unz posters.

    It’s a comin’.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Ozymandias

    It would help if Trump would turn loose Durham to start charging people for domestic spying. If it turns out to be 1/10th of what we suspect, it will put a very bitter taste in the public's mouth for things like doxxing. This is particularly true if it leads to Obama. I might be paranoid but sometimes I think that part of what BLM is about is giving blacks moral and legal immunity so the former President and First Lady won't get dragged through the mud wtshtf.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Ozymandias

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/kris-kobach-hired-a-white-nationalist-to-file-his-senate-campaign-paperwork/

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article236355618.html

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Joe+Suber

  153. @Thoughts
    @Anonymous

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter

    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Problem. Solved.

    Maybe a butt-slapping video, and of the wife or gf (in a white men's shirt) running away giggling.


    It would be super fun though if Tucker were to be like 'Our Head Writer, Neff, has left to pursue other interests' and then on the screen a Photo of Neff with a Super Hot Chick looking adoringly at him.

    This is how we'll win.

    Replies: @Marat, @Reg Cæsar, @Ben tillman

    Maybe Fox conveniently benefits by this timing in solving their Tucker “problem”. The Murdoch boys are subsidizing cable’s biggest talent hour afterall, due to the cowering fascist 500 who became too terrified to advertise. Maybe he should move to a paying subscriber situation – he’s too important to be left to the vagaries of Fox’s board.

  154. @Pop Warner
    @Henry's Cat

    For all we know there is an iSteve commenter on his writing staff

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    No comment.

  155. @Sam Malone
    @Muggles


    Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.
     
    I'd be curious to know what time period you're talking about - the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?

    Replies: @Muggles

    >>I’d be curious to know what time period you’re talking about – the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?<<

    Early 70s and beyond. For a while every April 15th or so. Houston.

    I never heard of any concerns about the media. Back then several TV stations and one or both major newspapers would often cover these. There were regular "last minute" April 15th filing rushes at the major downtown P.O. so there was always media. Sometimes we did the downtown federal building also.

    But some of the public voiced concerns over being "on the list" with the IRS. Since we didn't keep lists and cameras were rare back then, I really didn't get that concern. Of course the IRS might try to keep track of tax protesters who don't file, or those who urged others not to do so. We didn't advocate that in the demonstrations. Just generic bitching. But some people were very paranoid. I would say to them that we have "free speech" and if you are too afraid to speak, you may as well live elsewhere like Russia.

    There was no Social Media back then, or electronic tax filing. Overall we did get mostly positive feedback. (However I have a pending IRS FOIA request to see what if anything they did keep on me, FYI.)

    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @Muggles

    Very interesting, thanks. I'm always curious to get glimpses of what things were really like on the ground back in a time like the 70s. Let us know if you ever find anything out from your Freedom of Information request.

    , @Anonymous
    @Muggles

    512 Rusk -- I remember you. I went to Lee High School, UT, UT Law. Lol - small world.

  156. @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

    Phyllis Schlafly, a role model from the past. After raising a large family she graduated law school and then single-handedly stopped the misnamed Equal Rights Amendment in its tracks!

  157. @Neuday
    @PseudoNhymm

    A no-log VPN and protonmail are your friends.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Such as?

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Jim Don Bob

    Here's a good list, and I use one of those listed, for about $35/yr. I prefer a VPN with servers in multiple countries so I can choose my "location".

    https://reviewedbypro.com/the-best-vpn-with-no-log-policy/

  158. @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

    A number of the women you mentioned are indeed “vaguely” right in the sense of not really being conservative at all. As a general rule, I am more inclined to trust people in government and “opinion making” (for want of a better term) who do have children, and therefore a direct stake in the future. My earlier post was a defence of Ann Coulter specifically. I think she is very much an exception.

  159. @Thoughts
    @Anonymous

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter

    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Problem. Solved.

    Maybe a butt-slapping video, and of the wife or gf (in a white men's shirt) running away giggling.


    It would be super fun though if Tucker were to be like 'Our Head Writer, Neff, has left to pursue other interests' and then on the screen a Photo of Neff with a Super Hot Chick looking adoringly at him.

    This is how we'll win.

    Replies: @Marat, @Reg Cæsar, @Ben tillman

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter
    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Paris Hilton shows the way:

    This covers the same spot, but more striking is the mask reference at the beginning– 12 years before they became a fad:

  160. What did Jeff Zucker know about Matt Lauer? Has anyone asked this question? Wasn’t Jeff part of the Today Show when all of that stuff was going on? Maybe a little investigation into CNN is warranted.

  161. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234
    @syonredux

    Yeah, nothing really racist, in that Neff's coarsely stated observations are largely accurate, except for maybe his "Congo ......" comment (which I'm guessing is the main reason he was fired.) Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn't been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are...and more importantly, how important Tucker's mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?

    I actually know the answer to that...because I vent in similar ways when the frustration factor with the far left gets high enough. And our country still has a first amendment...for the time being. It's wrong that he was made to quit, but the practical truth is that if he didn't, probably the Ted Cruz's and Jim Jordan's of the world would stop appearing on Tucker's segments.

    When all is said and done, however, Neff's comments are an example of someone from the right defacing the metaphorical monuments of the left. Those monuments are eventually coming down, one way or another.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Anonymous

    Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?

    It seems to me that this Neff fellow should be able to say whatever he pleases in his spare time. Is this not so?

    I am intrigued by the (apparently now widely accepted) idea that what you do in your spare time reflects on your employer. Well, isn’t your spare time just that, yours?

    When did it become acceptable for employers to expect their employees to toe the line, not just whilst on the job, but wherever they went, and at any time of day? How is that any different from the slavery the left so widely decries?

    It seems to me that the American political right is focussed on quite the wrong things. Rather than attempting to defend what this Neff fellow said in his spare time, wouldn’t the right stand a better chance of prevailing if they couched the matter in terms of, “What Neff said in his spare time has nothing to do with the Tucker Carlson show and is no one’s business but his own”?

    Isn’t it high time that the American political right flung the left’s utter lack of decency back in their teeth? Leftists can burn, loot, and destroy with impunity, but this chap makes a few innocuous remarks on a message board and that’s it, his life is over? Really?

    Writers or no, if Tucker Carlson can’t turn this around and reveal these cretinous, obnoxious busybodies for who they really are, he isn’t half the man the Americans have made him out to be.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Anonymous


    Isn’t it high time that the American political right flung the left’s utter lack of decency back in their teeth?
     
    To do that the political right would require principles, a sense of decency and courage. They have none of those things.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @3g4me
    @Anonymous

    @163 Anon387: That's because about 99% of Sailer's posters unquestioningly accept the left's moral framing. Oh, they claim to be edgy and accept HBD, but they don't really. They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend 'x', who's not really like the others. And as morally superior intellectuals, they'll insist that character comes first, even though it's downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate 'opposition.' Everything proceeds from there.

    And Tucker will cuck. Count on it. And everyone here will justify his and their surrender, because people always justify their moral compromises out of self interest. Always.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

    , @J1234
    @Anonymous

    Anyone can do what ever they want on their free time - from posting politically incorrect sentiments to appearing in porn films. And any employer can fire them for it. The reality is the news business is the image business, even when that image is severely tarnished by extreme left leaning bias throughout the industry (maybe especially so.) We all have to be realistic about what is and isn't acceptable. To me, this guy didn't do anything too terrible, but I'm not Fox.

  162. @Anonymous
    How should Neff, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News, respectively, respond to this?

    What is Neff’s best defense?

    How should Tucker Carlson frame things?

    What ideas and language can Steve and commenters here offer?

    Replies: @I Have Scinde, @Almost Missouri, @al gore rhythms, @Thoughts, @anon

    More like: Irreverent witticisms that undermine the Narrative.

    Thank you, Steve. This is an excellent reframing.

  163. @HammerJack
    @botazefa

    It won't be (mostly fake) email addresses they want. It'll be such things as IP locators, and more. Some of which they probably have already anyway.

    Replies: @botazefa

    What is an IP locator? It’s not like the geographic location of subnets aren’t well known.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @botazefa

    Yeah I meant IP addresses which can serve as locators.

  164. @anonymous
    This should be a reality check for how people handle themselves online, including how Unz.com displays comment histories.

    One of the best features about Unz is the ability to post anonymously. It's funny that some posters will take offense to this, meanwhile if you go through their comment histories for an hour, you could find enough personal tidbits to narrow their identity down to <100 IRL individuals.

    We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features -- estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.

    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright, @SafeNow

    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so.

    No. People who write many/extensive comments under a recognizable handle presumably aren’t doing it to have those comments disappear into the aether. Content-wise, it would be as stupid as having Steve’s blog posts also disappear after six months. I often cite old comments by myself and others; it cuts down on having to rewrite points over and over, and it holds regulars accountable to their rhetoric over time (i.e., it’s harder to bullshit readers). But if you’re worried, stay “anonymous”.

  165. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable.

    Outside of Eastern Europe and most of Southeast Asia (maybe also Latin America), this change has been global. White-American women aren’t especially unique. You’ll find these same changes in women from Western Europe, the Middle East, East Asia, and South Asia…. Well, except the “tramp stamp.” That seems mostly confined to the West.

    If it makes you feel better, you’ll find that other Anglo women (British, Aussie, Kiwi) are probably even worse. Other than maybe France, raging feminism is the norm across the entire West.

    East Asia has its own version of raging feminism, if perhaps a bit more subdued. The Middle East and South are pretty conservative in many respects (family-based, religious, marriage-oriented), but the women are huge shrews and battle axes. In many respects, worse than White-American women. As for non-white women in America, I’d say Blacks are worse, while other races aren’t significantly better.

    Lots of White nationalist men like to go off to Eastern Europe (especially Russia). Though even there, you’re dealing with women who are very cunning and untrustworthy. Femme fatales.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
  166. @kihowi
    Recently I tried to find out how an old amour of mine was doing who's not exactly computer literate or careful with who she provides with her information, and the only things I was able to glean was that she had tried to buy second hand furniture and liked recipes. And I'm pretty good at the old internet sleuth act.

    Then when I called her up she had the balls to be disappointed that I hadn't stalked her better. Anyway, a dissident in a Stalinist industry such as show business should hang his head in shame to fail at what 40 year old mommy does without thinking about it.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mikey D.

    Then when I called her up she had the balls …

    See, now that’s your problem. You’re much better off without her/him.

  167. @botazefa
    @Ron Unz

    Ron - what would you do if you got a subpoena for email addresses of participants here?

    What if Patreon got a subpoena?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Almost Missouri

    As Hammerjack says, commenters’ IP addresses and probably more is already known or available to intel agencies. But they have other things to do … for now.

    In order to get a subpoena, you have to have a lawsuit or indictment, so the Unz Review would have to be sued or indicted for something first. And then it would have to be suit or indictment relating to something in the comments so that commenter data could be subpoenaed.

    The point of comment moderation is to keep actionable material (threats, libel, etc.) out of the comments so that lawsuits never start.

    That said, if a suit does start, one hopes the Unz Review has a hygienic practice of maintaining the minimum amount commenter metadata.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Thanks: bomag
  168. @Chrisnonymous
    @scrivener3


    Domain registries are authorized by ICANN a quasi public non-profit charged with acting in the public interest. ICANN is located in California, you can get jurisdiction over it in a Cal court. It has published policies, procedures and I am sure subject to our notions of due process.
     
    Can you explain VDARE's recent domain registry crisis, then?

    Replies: @scrivener3

    I am sorry I do not know the facts of vdare domain name crises. When I type in vdare.com I seem to get the page I always got. There are many social media sites that disappeared without a word of public notice, discussion or forwarding information. They are still gone with their publishers having little chance of recovering their audience.

    As I said verisign might unperson you (if you are a com) but you have legal recourse. If wordpress does not want you on their platform you are finished. If Vdare.com registered vdare.ru (the russian top level domain) and pointed both names to the same site and told all their users if they have trouble getting to vdare.com go to our backup site vdare.ru, well then they would have been online while all the legalities of verisign and vdare.com were sorted out.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @scrivener3

    You can also move your .com domain to another registrar. But in some cases there seems to be a bit of collusion going on between registrars, as one might expect in these degenerate and unprincipled times.

    In the case of the Daily Stormer, it seems Google just locked the domain name and pointed it to nowhere, which I don't think is really legal when done out of the blue by one of the vaunted private companies. Then a global circus of registrar collusion followed so they couldn't register in any other top level domain either.

    In conclusion, the domain name system is pozzed.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @scrivener3

  169. @Muggles
    @bomag

    >>Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.<<

    Yes! Beria too! Actually all of the NKVD heads were purged/killed but one guy in the late 20s who died of actual heart disease.

    Of course the Kancellation Komrades are not so powerful or even to be feared.

    Of course if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly. Just common sense unless you want to screen potential customers/employers for their politics.

    I should also note something relevant here. Fear of speaking up isn't new. Many decades ago I regularly attended/organized various public protests in front of federal buildings and even voting sites (that was disastrous, only done once). Surprised that in regards to tax protests many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    I tried to argue that there was no reason to be fearful, and that if you acted as if you were in the USSR you may as well be there already. Still, people were very afraid of the IRS especially.

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @JohnnyWalker123

    A lot of people wonder why Whites acquiesced so easily on issues like segregation, interracial marriage, and mass non-Euro migration. I think your post offers a glimpse into the thought process of the average middle-class White suburbanite. These lines are especially relevant.

    if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly.

    many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.

    If you behave like you are a slave when you’re not, for no good reason, you already are.

    Way back in the “old days,” most Whites lived in difficult circumstances and had to fight for survival. So Whites grew up to be scrappy and tough. That’s why they reacted so ferociously, often engaging in race riots and labor riots.

    During the post-WWII era, many Whites moved from gritty urban areas and hardscrabble small towns into leafy suburbs. It was at that point that prosperity became a reality for the masses.
    However, with prosperity, came the fear that you could lose it all and go back into poverty. So people became more subservient to the increasingly powerful govt and big corps, who had the power to destroy people’s lives.

    When the Jews took control of the media and govt during the 60s and 70s, they forced a civil rights agenda down the throats of the White masses. While most Whites didn’t like it at all, they feared the consequences of fighting back. Of course, some did fight back, but they got punished. That served as an example for everyone else.

    At this point, you’ve had several generations of Whites who’ve grown up in relative comfort and are fairly effete as a consequence. Whites also exist in a social milieu that’s increasingly atomized, so nobody has anybody’s back anymore. That’s why something like labor agitation, which used to be so frequent in America, no longer exists.

    • Agree: bomag, JackOH
    • Replies: @JackOH
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JW123, hat's off to you and Muggles for exposing something really important.

    Whether workers knew it or not, by the late 1950s or thereabouts, their increasingly fat paychecks and untaxed group health insurance and defined-benefit pensions and apparent security had them swapping political agency (or call it moral agency) for material goodies. The political voice they were once capable of exercising had been fucking bought by Corporate America for Corporate America's reasons.

    I think a very few labor-friendly intellectuals sort of understand the Great Swap (my made-up term) of material prosperity for political silence. It's pretty difficult for anyone to buy into the notion that his own material prosperity has come at a price.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  170. @Muggles
    @Sam Malone

    >>I’d be curious to know what time period you’re talking about – the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?<<

    Early 70s and beyond. For a while every April 15th or so. Houston.

    I never heard of any concerns about the media. Back then several TV stations and one or both major newspapers would often cover these. There were regular "last minute" April 15th filing rushes at the major downtown P.O. so there was always media. Sometimes we did the downtown federal building also.

    But some of the public voiced concerns over being "on the list" with the IRS. Since we didn't keep lists and cameras were rare back then, I really didn't get that concern. Of course the IRS might try to keep track of tax protesters who don't file, or those who urged others not to do so. We didn't advocate that in the demonstrations. Just generic bitching. But some people were very paranoid. I would say to them that we have "free speech" and if you are too afraid to speak, you may as well live elsewhere like Russia.

    There was no Social Media back then, or electronic tax filing. Overall we did get mostly positive feedback. (However I have a pending IRS FOIA request to see what if anything they did keep on me, FYI.)

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Anonymous

    Very interesting, thanks. I’m always curious to get glimpses of what things were really like on the ground back in a time like the 70s. Let us know if you ever find anything out from your Freedom of Information request.

  171. @Henry's Cat
    @anonymous

    You expect Carlson - with the highest rated show in cable news' history - to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable - heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.

    Replies: @Pop Warner, @Boomer Lives Matter

    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.

    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.” He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as ‘xo’) will come to admit that charles/neff’s actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that “Neff is eminently replaceable” and that “there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy,” I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure…however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff’s shoes…and probably do an even better job…\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo…there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff’s shoes…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @IHTG

    , @Kyle
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Freud would say he wanted to be doxed and wanted people to know what his views are.
    Your name is awesome by the way.

    , @Impolitic
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Huh? I've never heard of AutoAdmit, but looking at them now I just see page after page of sub-moronic threads. And the ones CNN quoted are consistent with that perception.

    , @Ron Unz
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”
     
    Well, if that's the case, I'm not sure this would even be called a "doxxing." If you tell a bunch of your friends who you are and they spread it around on your forum, someone hostile merely needs to go through your archives to *prove* your identity, which is a very different task than somehow figuring it out in the first place.

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo
     
    Well, maybe. I just glanced at a couple of threads and it mostly seemed crude humor and insults, really low-quality stuff. Perhaps you could provide links to a couple of their most impressive discussions.

    Replies: @Boomer Lives Matter, @Corvinus, @JackOH

    , @Anonymous
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    As to your assertion that “Neff is eminently replaceable” and that “there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy,” I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common.
     
    Do you not have any constructive advice to Neff or Carlson as to how to address this situation?
    , @Prof. Woland
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Maybe Neff can do what Dalton Trumbo did, ghost write for front men.

  172. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles
    @Sam Malone

    >>I’d be curious to know what time period you’re talking about – the early 80s, late 70s, when? And roughly what part of the country? People were afraid principally of the IRS, but also the media I guess?<<

    Early 70s and beyond. For a while every April 15th or so. Houston.

    I never heard of any concerns about the media. Back then several TV stations and one or both major newspapers would often cover these. There were regular "last minute" April 15th filing rushes at the major downtown P.O. so there was always media. Sometimes we did the downtown federal building also.

    But some of the public voiced concerns over being "on the list" with the IRS. Since we didn't keep lists and cameras were rare back then, I really didn't get that concern. Of course the IRS might try to keep track of tax protesters who don't file, or those who urged others not to do so. We didn't advocate that in the demonstrations. Just generic bitching. But some people were very paranoid. I would say to them that we have "free speech" and if you are too afraid to speak, you may as well live elsewhere like Russia.

    There was no Social Media back then, or electronic tax filing. Overall we did get mostly positive feedback. (However I have a pending IRS FOIA request to see what if anything they did keep on me, FYI.)

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Anonymous

    512 Rusk — I remember you. I went to Lee High School, UT, UT Law. Lol – small world.

  173. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman


    do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer?
     
    This photo has exif data including GPS data...

    https://exposingtheinvisible.org/ckeditor_assets/pictures/32/content_example_ibiza.jpg

    A photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the location and time it was taken, and the type of device it was taken with, but there is no unique identifier for the phone or camera per se.

    For example, unless the exif data was altered, the above photo was taken with an iphone 4 on September 4, 2011.

    This is the GPS data I found embedded in that .jpg using exiftool...

    GPS Altitude : 0 m Above Sea Level
    GPS Date/Time : 2011:09:04 11:07:47Z
    GPS Latitude : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N
    GPS Longitude : 1 deg 26' 19.20" E
    GPS Position : 38 deg 54' 35.40" N, 1 deg 26' 19.20" E

    https://exiftool.org/

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiftool

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exif

    https://www.pic2map.com/

    If you're looking to determine the unique camera from which a photo was taken then you're talking about something called Photo Response Non Uniformity. Photo Response Non Uniformity has been used for Source Camera Identification. That is a little more complicated than reading exif data...

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Your-phones-camera-has-a-unique-ID-you-never-knew-about_id87786

    And here is a paper that explores different methods of image source anonymization. Evidently a Photo Response Non Uniformity pattern can be transferred from one image to another for malicious use or deception...

    https://www.osapublishing.org/DirectPDFAccess/ACEE5532-D0FE-9AA7-170A92520C7C0321_276458/oe-22-1-470.pdf

    Interestingly, whatever photo editing software the staff of PeakStupidity is using to resize images is stripping most the photos of most of their exif data. I did find some data in the pizza photo. It informs me that the device on which that photo was taken is associated with an apple profile that was created on July 7, 2017. There is no GPS data in the pizza photo.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. Smith, firstly I’m so glad to have someone like you who can answer these questions in somewhat of a nutshell! (Of course, you know I know of your computer bonafides from your comments on Peak Stupidity.)

    Now, the PRNU business (I just read your first linked-to article) is interesting. I suppose, so long as that PRNU profile was not saved by the manufacturer, someone can tell which pictures came from the same phone, but not whom that phone belongs to (barring a search warrant and your forgetting to flush your phone down the toilet).

    Regarding the metadata stuff (to you and TWGH), I figured it worked like that. Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it’s own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg? The next question is if you do a “save image” of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?

    Peak Stupidity mostly gets photos off of bing images, so whatever info is contained doesn’t give away anything. Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there. No, that pizza was not mine. We eat the pepperonis right away, so the swasticker couldn’t have lasted long enough for a photo!

    Thanks for all the great information. Of course, I’ve got nothing to hide. This is for a friend of mine, yeah, that’s the ticket.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    PS: Good morning Mr. Newman,

    I agree that this PRNU business is interesting. It seems to me that PRNU data could only be useful for forensic purposes. If the manufacturers or “governments” of the world tried collecting PRNU data en masse I think they would quickly be overwhelmed with too much information for that data to be useful. I call this bulk data failure. Too much information to sift through.

    According to GSMA real-time intelligence data, there are now over 10.32 Billion mobile connections worldwide. There are an estimated 770 million surveillance cameras in the world, a number that will continue to grow. A study by LVD capital predicts that by 2022, the total number of cameras in the world will reach about 45 billion, which is a little mind boggling. Clearly PRNU data can only be useful against a targeted person or group of people, like a criminal investigation or something.

    https://www.gsmaintelligence.com/data/

    https://www.ldv.co/insights

    I agree that by studying the PRNU data someone who has a lot of time on their hands can tell which pictures came from the same phone or camera, but not whom that phone belongs to, unless there is some other sort of identifying information in the photos themselves or in the exif data or if they could get their hands on that device for awhile. (which sort of takes the mystery out of figuring out which pictures came from which camera/phone). Of course plenty of people post their photos to their facebook or instagram, so that is one way that someone could collect data from someone of interest.

    Thanks to TWGHoward I now understand that field code #EXIF5002 is reserved for a Serial Number. I looked through some pictures on my laptop and I did find some photos that were taken with a Canon EOS 6D that do include a unique serial number, 12 digits long. There is also a field for Lens Serial Number, though it is simply 0000000000. Other expensive cameras probably store this information too. In the future even the cheap cameras will collect an ever expanding set of metadata, for our safety and convenience of course. (I have nothing to hide either, so all this metadata collection stuff would never, ever bother me. I too have won the victory over myself. I love Big Brother. ♥ )

    https://learn.fotoware.com/FotoStation/06_Searching_for_assets/EXIF_field_code_reference

    http://cdn.fotoware.com/documentation/7.0/service-release-6/fotoweb/administering-fotoweb/xmp_field_code_reference.htm


    Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it’s own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg?
     
    I tested this on my laptop and I am happy to report that my print screen software does not store exif data or inject it's own. I also read that .png does not store exif data (yet?) and that if you convert from .jpg to .png the exif data will not be present in the new photo. This probably does not apply to all screenshot software, but probably does if your software stores your screenshot in .png format. But...

    According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9542359/does-png-contain-exif-data-like-jpg

    Version 1.5.0 (July 2017) of the Extensions to the PNG 1.2 Specification has finally added an EXIF chunk. It remains to be seen if encoders-decoders begin to support it.

    As of July 2017, PNG officially supports an eXIf chunk to store EXIF metadata. ExifTool 10.59 and later write EXIF to this new chunk in PNG images.
    ImageMagick stores EXIF information in a PNG "Raw profile type APP1" zTXt chunk when converting from JPEG images. This method of storing EXIF in PNG images is also supported by ExifTool (and I believe Exiv2 too), but it is not part of the PNG or EXIF specification.

    Exiv2? What's that...

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiv2

    So... apt-get install exiv2

    This tool reads different types of metadata from different sorts of files. Seems like a nice compliment to exiftool and exif. You might want to tell your friend about it.

    The next question is if you do a “save image” of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?
     
    It does, if the information hasn't been removed. They say that Facebook and Instagram remove metadata from photos, so presumably some other websites do too. (Flickr evidently does not) However...

    https://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/how-to-remove-exif-metadata

    While social media platforms like Facebook or Instagram strip out the metadata before it shows your photo to the world, they don’t just simply erase that metadata. Metadata is valuble to them. They collect it and store it next to your likes, comments, your network of ‘friends’ etc in order to profile you.

    Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there.
     
    Yes... Or your friend could remove the data with exiftool like this...

    exiftool -all= path_to_file

    ExifTool will strip out all the Exif data from your photo and create a new file leaving the original photo untouched.

    So, Mr. Newman, please thank your friend for the interesting questions. I haven't had this much fun learning about “behind the scenes computer stuff” since I learned about embedding an invisible hidden .exe in an alternate data stream in the ntfs filesystem or the day I learned how to put an encrypted .pdf of 1984 inside a zip file inside a truecrypt archive inside a George Orwell picture with steghide...

    I hope you and the rest of the Newman clan have a nice day.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  174. @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I’d like to be a fly on the wall to conversations of left-wing journalists, black protesters, black anyone, Democratic politicians.
     
    Hmmm... How bout this?

    https://youtu.be/80V7ouySP48

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Lower the camera ~ 8 inches and mash mute. It’s WAY more pleasant to watch that way.

  175. @ATBOTL
    @anonymous

    Tucker Carlson is just Rush Limbaugh 2.0. His job is to keep you on the GOP plantation. It's the same schtick, he just changes "freedom" to "nationalism." Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation. Anyone else remember his clownish bowtie boy neocon act from the 90's? He was a smarmy idiot mindlessly parroting globalization era establishment talking points.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @JohnnyWalker123

    Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation.

    No, he wasn’t.

    Tucker Carlson was pro-Ron Paul.

    He came out against the Iraq War in 2004.

    https://observer.com/2004/05/newly-dovish-tucker-carlson-goes-publickimmel-writer-ribs-times/

    he’s changed his mind about the war in Iraq. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” he said. “It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually.”

    His views on racial diversity back in 2004 (same article).

    For instance, he said, “I was thinking this morning: ‘Diversity is the strength of our country.’ Oh yeah? How’s that? Why don’t you explain that to me? I don’t see that. I mean, is diversity the strength of the Balkans? No.”

    He was critical of Israel back in 2002.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sR9uCD4KsjUJ:www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/08/cf.00.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    CARLSON: Wait — hold it Mr. Ambassador, this is with all due respect, more than a difference of opinion. Our president, President Bush was very clear in his demand to Israel. Israel ignored him in what many interpret as in an insulting way. That’s fine, that’s Israel’s right. But the question then arises, why should the U.S. taxpayers continue to send $3 billion to Israel if Israel, our closest ally in the region, insults this way? Why?

    CARLSON: … my question is why should U.S. taxpayers continue to pay for …

    CARLSON: … subsidize a country that insults us.

    the behavior today at the Church of the Nativity where Israeli soldiers threw a bomb in it, set the church on fire. According to eyewitnesses, including Franciscan (ph) priests within the church, and in fact shot someone in the church. How can you defend that?

    CNN employees who say that Israeli soldiers rammed the CNN truck and fired a bullet into the windshield of it. Now they’re — in the last 10 days there have been 20 journalists shot at by Israeli soldiers. Five have been struck by bullets. One “The Boston Globe” was shot.

    From what I recall, back during the 90s and 2000s, Tucker Carlson was an independent-minded conservative. Often quite anti-interventionist and critical of Israel. Very far from being a Neocon.

    My recollection of Tucker Carlson is very different from yours.

    The type of Conservatives who were on Crossfire (Tucker Carlson, Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak) often had views that could be considered “Paleo.” Anti-war, skeptical of Israel, isolationist, culturally traditional. Not Neocon.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Thanks for an excellent post--and the reminder of why Tucker has been fired from so many big media jobs. Has anyone ever proved Fitzgerald ("there are no second acts in American lives") more wrong?

    , @Kyle
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson has a step mother “called” Patricia Caroline Swanson. He’s the heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune. He should’t be worried one bit about losing his job.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @ATBOTL
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Tucker wrote a hit piece against Pat Buchanan for Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard. I read it at the time, probably around 1995 or 1996. He supported the Iraq war until public opinion turned against it. Case closed. He's a huckster whose job it is to keep whites on the GOP plantation. Keep falling for this act if you want to be agonizing over voting for Nikki Haley in 2024 because "we have to keep out the DemonRAT." Tucker will be there to remind you that Nikki isn't perfect, but "America won't survive if we don't elect her."

    Give support to openly pro-white voices only.

    Replies: @milchharvey

  176. @HarvardMan
    @Ron Unz

    Sorry Mr. Unz, but this reveals a level of delusion about just where we are as a society that you really shouldn't engage in as a prominent dissident figure. Maybe they won't write a nasty hit-piece about this place, but they'll certainly make it impossible for you to host your website, or pay your bills, or whatever extra-judicial means they see fit to silence you.

    I sincerely hope you're planning for the day when you log on only to be greeted by a big 404 splash page and a hosting company that refuses to take your calls. It's coming, very soon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

  177. @216
    Stop calling them journolists

    Start calling them what they are: TERRORISTS

    Replies: @Richard B

    Stop calling them journolists

    Start calling them what they are: TERRORISTS

    and Hacks.

    What a combination.

  178. Is this the parody of “We Didn’t Start the Fire” that Neff wrote?

  179. @JohnnyWalker123
    @ATBOTL


    Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation.

     

    No, he wasn't.

    Tucker Carlson was pro-Ron Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl5bsWmsBQ

    He came out against the Iraq War in 2004.

    https://observer.com/2004/05/newly-dovish-tucker-carlson-goes-publickimmel-writer-ribs-times/

    he’s changed his mind about the war in Iraq. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” he said. “It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually.”
     
    His views on racial diversity back in 2004 (same article).

    For instance, he said, “I was thinking this morning: ‘Diversity is the strength of our country.’ Oh yeah? How’s that? Why don’t you explain that to me? I don’t see that. I mean, is diversity the strength of the Balkans? No.”

     

    He was critical of Israel back in 2002.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sR9uCD4KsjUJ:www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/08/cf.00.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    CARLSON: Wait -- hold it Mr. Ambassador, this is with all due respect, more than a difference of opinion. Our president, President Bush was very clear in his demand to Israel. Israel ignored him in what many interpret as in an insulting way. That's fine, that's Israel's right. But the question then arises, why should the U.S. taxpayers continue to send $3 billion to Israel if Israel, our closest ally in the region, insults this way? Why?

     


    CARLSON: ... my question is why should U.S. taxpayers continue to pay for ...

     


    CARLSON: ... subsidize a country that insults us.
     

    the behavior today at the Church of the Nativity where Israeli soldiers threw a bomb in it, set the church on fire. According to eyewitnesses, including Franciscan (ph) priests within the church, and in fact shot someone in the church. How can you defend that?
     

    CNN employees who say that Israeli soldiers rammed the CNN truck and fired a bullet into the windshield of it. Now they're -- in the last 10 days there have been 20 journalists shot at by Israeli soldiers. Five have been struck by bullets. One "The Boston Globe" was shot.
     
    From what I recall, back during the 90s and 2000s, Tucker Carlson was an independent-minded conservative. Often quite anti-interventionist and critical of Israel. Very far from being a Neocon.

    My recollection of Tucker Carlson is very different from yours.

    The type of Conservatives who were on Crossfire (Tucker Carlson, Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak) often had views that could be considered "Paleo." Anti-war, skeptical of Israel, isolationist, culturally traditional. Not Neocon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Kyle, @ATBOTL

    Thanks for an excellent post–and the reminder of why Tucker has been fired from so many big media jobs. Has anyone ever proved Fitzgerald (“there are no second acts in American lives”) more wrong?

  180. @kihowi
    Recently I tried to find out how an old amour of mine was doing who's not exactly computer literate or careful with who she provides with her information, and the only things I was able to glean was that she had tried to buy second hand furniture and liked recipes. And I'm pretty good at the old internet sleuth act.

    Then when I called her up she had the balls to be disappointed that I hadn't stalked her better. Anyway, a dissident in a Stalinist industry such as show business should hang his head in shame to fail at what 40 year old mommy does without thinking about it.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mikey D.

    Most people just dont bother. I use fake names and have about 10 random e-mails for different sites.

    I can’t pull up anything if I try to look for myself using a search engine, not even a facebook account that I barely use. Which you would think is, because my last name is incredibly rare.

    I don’t have a twitter or any other social media accounts, so maybe that has something to do with it. I prefer anonymous chat boards where I can change my name on a whim.

  181. @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

    Helen Andrews is pregnant.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Percy Gryce

    That's great.

  182. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.
     
    Then let this serve as a gentle reminder that an I.Q. score doesn’t seem to be able to confer judgement.

    I have a friend who's a surgeon. This is a conversation I had with him years ago...

    Me: You went through medical school and your residency with the same group of people, right?

    Him: Yep.

    M: How many would that be?

    H: 124

    M: So because you spent so many years with the same group of people, you got to know most of them personally, as well as professionally? You’ve seen them under all kinds of stress through the years?

    H: Of course.

    M: Okay, so let’s say you had to undergo an operation which was a bit tricky, and any dumb mistake could put you six feet under, but as long as your doctor was skilled, it wouldn’t be a problem. How many doctors in your class would you be confident of operating on you?

    H: I’d say probably four.

    M: Four out of 124 practicing physicians? Why so low a number? You went to a great medical school. Everyone had to have great SAT scores or they wouldn’t have been there.

    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It's a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.

    Ask Tucker Carlson.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Steve Sailer

    If that's true, America is doomed.

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Steve Sailer

    Until now, I had not realized that Neff was such a high-octane intellectual.Then his being driven from the Public Square is even worse than I had first thought. What a damn shame!

    , @IHTG
    @Steve Sailer

    You sound like you know him.

  183. @anonymous
    This should be a reality check for how people handle themselves online, including how Unz.com displays comment histories.

    One of the best features about Unz is the ability to post anonymously. It's funny that some posters will take offense to this, meanwhile if you go through their comment histories for an hour, you could find enough personal tidbits to narrow their identity down to <100 IRL individuals.

    We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features -- estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.

    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright, @SafeNow

    ‘Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.’

    It’s hard to think of a legitimate reason why it should be available for longer than that.

  184. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    Freud would say he wanted to be doxed and wanted people to know what his views are.
    Your name is awesome by the way.

  185. @JohnnyWalker123
    @ATBOTL


    Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation.

     

    No, he wasn't.

    Tucker Carlson was pro-Ron Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl5bsWmsBQ

    He came out against the Iraq War in 2004.

    https://observer.com/2004/05/newly-dovish-tucker-carlson-goes-publickimmel-writer-ribs-times/

    he’s changed his mind about the war in Iraq. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” he said. “It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually.”
     
    His views on racial diversity back in 2004 (same article).

    For instance, he said, “I was thinking this morning: ‘Diversity is the strength of our country.’ Oh yeah? How’s that? Why don’t you explain that to me? I don’t see that. I mean, is diversity the strength of the Balkans? No.”

     

    He was critical of Israel back in 2002.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sR9uCD4KsjUJ:www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/08/cf.00.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    CARLSON: Wait -- hold it Mr. Ambassador, this is with all due respect, more than a difference of opinion. Our president, President Bush was very clear in his demand to Israel. Israel ignored him in what many interpret as in an insulting way. That's fine, that's Israel's right. But the question then arises, why should the U.S. taxpayers continue to send $3 billion to Israel if Israel, our closest ally in the region, insults this way? Why?

     


    CARLSON: ... my question is why should U.S. taxpayers continue to pay for ...

     


    CARLSON: ... subsidize a country that insults us.
     

    the behavior today at the Church of the Nativity where Israeli soldiers threw a bomb in it, set the church on fire. According to eyewitnesses, including Franciscan (ph) priests within the church, and in fact shot someone in the church. How can you defend that?
     

    CNN employees who say that Israeli soldiers rammed the CNN truck and fired a bullet into the windshield of it. Now they're -- in the last 10 days there have been 20 journalists shot at by Israeli soldiers. Five have been struck by bullets. One "The Boston Globe" was shot.
     
    From what I recall, back during the 90s and 2000s, Tucker Carlson was an independent-minded conservative. Often quite anti-interventionist and critical of Israel. Very far from being a Neocon.

    My recollection of Tucker Carlson is very different from yours.

    The type of Conservatives who were on Crossfire (Tucker Carlson, Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak) often had views that could be considered "Paleo." Anti-war, skeptical of Israel, isolationist, culturally traditional. Not Neocon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Kyle, @ATBOTL

    Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson has a step mother “called” Patricia Caroline Swanson. He’s the heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune. He should’t be worried one bit about losing his job.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Kyle


    He should’t be worried one bit about losing his job.
     
    Maybe not. But we should be worried about his losing it.
  186. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kyle
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson has a step mother “called” Patricia Caroline Swanson. He’s the heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune. He should’t be worried one bit about losing his job.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    He should’t be worried one bit about losing his job.

    Maybe not. But we should be worried about his losing it.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  187. @Anonymous
    @J1234


    Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?
     
    It seems to me that this Neff fellow should be able to say whatever he pleases in his spare time. Is this not so?

    I am intrigued by the (apparently now widely accepted) idea that what you do in your spare time reflects on your employer. Well, isn't your spare time just that, yours?

    When did it become acceptable for employers to expect their employees to toe the line, not just whilst on the job, but wherever they went, and at any time of day? How is that any different from the slavery the left so widely decries?

    It seems to me that the American political right is focussed on quite the wrong things. Rather than attempting to defend what this Neff fellow said in his spare time, wouldn't the right stand a better chance of prevailing if they couched the matter in terms of, "What Neff said in his spare time has nothing to do with the Tucker Carlson show and is no one's business but his own"?

    Isn't it high time that the American political right flung the left's utter lack of decency back in their teeth? Leftists can burn, loot, and destroy with impunity, but this chap makes a few innocuous remarks on a message board and that's it, his life is over? Really?

    Writers or no, if Tucker Carlson can't turn this around and reveal these cretinous, obnoxious busybodies for who they really are, he isn't half the man the Americans have made him out to be.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @3g4me, @J1234

    Isn’t it high time that the American political right flung the left’s utter lack of decency back in their teeth?

    To do that the political right would require principles, a sense of decency and courage. They have none of those things.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @dfordoom


    To do that the political right would require principles, a sense of decency and courage. They have none of those things.
     
    The first two things you named sound impressive, certainly, but the right has not yet twigged that without the last quality, the first two cannot exist.

    Every time another public figure is unpersonned by the left, I think,"This is it: this is the incident that will get the right wing moving at long last."

    And yet...it never happens. Either the right wing in the US believes they still have plenty of time to react, or they are committed to talking their way out of a situation that requires action, not talk.

    Perhaps there is some of that much-heralded "5D chess" taking place here, but I am having a difficult time understanding how ceding fight after fight serves to attract people to the right. If there is anything the right still has to offer a battered and weary America at this point, they had better come out with it, and soon, before America irretrievably becomes a one-party state.
  188. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @IHTG

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Then let this serve as a gentle reminder that an I.Q. score doesn’t seem to be able to confer judgement.

    I have a friend who’s a surgeon. This is a conversation I had with him years ago…

    Me: You went through medical school and your residency with the same group of people, right?

    Him: Yep.

    M: How many would that be?

    H: 124

    M: So because you spent so many years with the same group of people, you got to know most of them personally, as well as professionally? You’ve seen them under all kinds of stress through the years?

    H: Of course.

    M: Okay, so let’s say you had to undergo an operation which was a bit tricky, and any dumb mistake could put you six feet under, but as long as your doctor was skilled, it wouldn’t be a problem. How many doctors in your class would you be confident of operating on you?

    H: I’d say probably four.

    M: Four out of 124 practicing physicians? Why so low a number? You went to a great medical school. Everyone had to have great SAT scores or they wouldn’t have been there.

    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It’s a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.

    Ask Tucker Carlson.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It’s a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.
     
    Where specifically does “judgment” enter in during surgery?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  189. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles did nothing wrong
    Here is a commentary on the text of the CNN article, refuting the scurrilous notion that Tucker's writer posted anything racist.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/8Tx9mTz

    https://imgur.com/gallery/fppdLWP

    https://imgur.com/gallery/awY5iOh

    https://imgur.com/gallery/PWpqIML

    https://imgur.com/gallery/QpQyQEA

    https://imgur.com/gallery/IYHuWao

    https://imgur.com/gallery/UnQ8yEZ

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat

    Here is a commentary on the text of the CNN article, refuting the scurrilous notion that Tucker’s writer posted anything racist.

    Would it be good if Tucker Carlson went through these item-by-item on his show on Monday night?

  190. @Charles did nothing wrong
    Here is a commentary on the text of the CNN article, refuting the scurrilous notion that Tucker's writer posted anything racist.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/8Tx9mTz

    https://imgur.com/gallery/fppdLWP

    https://imgur.com/gallery/awY5iOh

    https://imgur.com/gallery/PWpqIML

    https://imgur.com/gallery/QpQyQEA

    https://imgur.com/gallery/IYHuWao

    https://imgur.com/gallery/UnQ8yEZ

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat

    Everything’s racism.

  191. @Steve Sailer
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @IHTG

    If that’s true, America is doomed.

    • LOL: Sam Malone
  192. @Steve Sailer
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @IHTG

    Until now, I had not realized that Neff was such a high-octane intellectual.Then his being driven from the Public Square is even worse than I had first thought. What a damn shame!

  193. @ATBOTL
    @JimDandy

    Tucker dogwhistles ever so vaguely about Jewish/Israeli control of America. Big Deal. Bill O'Reilly would do something similar with "Hollywood liberals." This is just more of the same with a younger face and slight updates to the rhetoric.

    One thing Tucker could do if he were serious would be to go after the ADL hard. The ADL is the leader and coordinator of the modern censorship movement. It's also really powerful, overtly Jewish and essentially part of the Israeli state. If Tucker were to make the ADL the main target of his rage for months and call the group "anti-white," point out that the ADL are specifically Zionist Jews rather than just generic "liberals," we would be getting somewhere. The ADL is indefensible.
    Most conservatives, even pro-Israel ones, hate the ADL and would love to hear it being ripped to shreds.

    Let's see Tucker do that and also make it clear that the Israeli state is behind the Epstein child-rape gang. Then connect that to the Palestinians. Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. That would be the kind of thing that would have a real impact on white Americans. That's the kind of thing that would lead to real change in America. What Tucker does now is just "totally extreme," generation X flavored GOP cheerleading.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    At Fox, he could do what you’re suggesting for approximately one show, and it would never air. But who knows, maybe after he does eventually get fired from Fox, he will go rogue and create an indie platform and get more candid on those issues and others.

    Probably not, though. The lack of true freedom of speech in America is very depressing. There are different levels of hell, though, and I’m very glad that Hillary Clinton is not our president, and I’m also glad that the worst of the worst Zionist Neocons–from Max Boot to Jennifer Rubin to Bill Kristol–are still crying themselves to sleep over Trump’s win. (And no, that’s not an act to bamboozle the goyim.) Also, I really, really don’t want Biden to win the election. I won’t argue with you if you tell me that Trump is a terrible president, but relative to Biden? Or anyone else who had an actual chance to win?

    BTW, what does this mean?

    “Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. ”

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @JimDandy

    Trump is our best DC Desperado. He is our man in the arena. Trump is on the run (from deep state) same as other white boys his age (me) and 30 years younger.
    I can tune out the news until November and will still vote Trump our best last chance bet

    , @128
    @JimDandy

    Trump and his 500000 H-1bs a year, and a million "skilled" and "unskilled" immigrants, if he get what he wants? How many Confederate monuments are still standing, what he has done to preserve them? What has he done that is useful except billions per year for Israel?

    Replies: @JimDandy

  194. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.
     
    Then let this serve as a gentle reminder that an I.Q. score doesn’t seem to be able to confer judgement.

    I have a friend who's a surgeon. This is a conversation I had with him years ago...

    Me: You went through medical school and your residency with the same group of people, right?

    Him: Yep.

    M: How many would that be?

    H: 124

    M: So because you spent so many years with the same group of people, you got to know most of them personally, as well as professionally? You’ve seen them under all kinds of stress through the years?

    H: Of course.

    M: Okay, so let’s say you had to undergo an operation which was a bit tricky, and any dumb mistake could put you six feet under, but as long as your doctor was skilled, it wouldn’t be a problem. How many doctors in your class would you be confident of operating on you?

    H: I’d say probably four.

    M: Four out of 124 practicing physicians? Why so low a number? You went to a great medical school. Everyone had to have great SAT scores or they wouldn’t have been there.

    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It's a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.

    Ask Tucker Carlson.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It’s a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.

    Where specifically does “judgment” enter in during surgery?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Where specifically does “judgment” enter in during surgery?
     
    Have you ever driven a car, and another driver does something dramatic and unexpected, requiring you to make a quick decision to keep you from killing people, yourself, or crashing your car?

    Did you make a decision? Was it the right one? If so, congratulations. You exhibited "good judgment."

    Now present the same scenario to your wife. Would she do the same thing, or run your Kia up a tree? Your answer will reflect your opinion of her "judgment."

    Now, transfer that sensibility to a surgeon who's patient has gone into what appears to be spontaneous cardiac arrest while on the operating table. You must make a quick decision to avoid the patient's early demise. Do you make a decision? Will it be the right one?

    Hope this helps.
  195. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom
    @Anonymous


    Isn’t it high time that the American political right flung the left’s utter lack of decency back in their teeth?
     
    To do that the political right would require principles, a sense of decency and courage. They have none of those things.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    To do that the political right would require principles, a sense of decency and courage. They have none of those things.

    The first two things you named sound impressive, certainly, but the right has not yet twigged that without the last quality, the first two cannot exist.

    Every time another public figure is unpersonned by the left, I think,”This is it: this is the incident that will get the right wing moving at long last.”

    And yet…it never happens. Either the right wing in the US believes they still have plenty of time to react, or they are committed to talking their way out of a situation that requires action, not talk.

    Perhaps there is some of that much-heralded “5D chess” taking place here, but I am having a difficult time understanding how ceding fight after fight serves to attract people to the right. If there is anything the right still has to offer a battered and weary America at this point, they had better come out with it, and soon, before America irretrievably becomes a one-party state.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  196. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Muggles

    A lot of people wonder why Whites acquiesced so easily on issues like segregation, interracial marriage, and mass non-Euro migration. I think your post offers a glimpse into the thought process of the average middle-class White suburbanite. These lines are especially relevant.


    if you are employed by others (or even have random clients/customers) as I have been, you should be circumspect about voicing your political opinions publicly.
     

    many of the public agreed with me but admitted they were afraid of being seen/known for having sympathy with these anti government views.
     

    If you behave like you are a slave when you're not, for no good reason, you already are.

     

    Way back in the "old days," most Whites lived in difficult circumstances and had to fight for survival. So Whites grew up to be scrappy and tough. That's why they reacted so ferociously, often engaging in race riots and labor riots.

    During the post-WWII era, many Whites moved from gritty urban areas and hardscrabble small towns into leafy suburbs. It was at that point that prosperity became a reality for the masses.
    However, with prosperity, came the fear that you could lose it all and go back into poverty. So people became more subservient to the increasingly powerful govt and big corps, who had the power to destroy people's lives.

    When the Jews took control of the media and govt during the 60s and 70s, they forced a civil rights agenda down the throats of the White masses. While most Whites didn't like it at all, they feared the consequences of fighting back. Of course, some did fight back, but they got punished. That served as an example for everyone else.

    At this point, you've had several generations of Whites who've grown up in relative comfort and are fairly effete as a consequence. Whites also exist in a social milieu that's increasingly atomized, so nobody has anybody's back anymore. That's why something like labor agitation, which used to be so frequent in America, no longer exists.

    Replies: @JackOH

    JW123, hat’s off to you and Muggles for exposing something really important.

    Whether workers knew it or not, by the late 1950s or thereabouts, their increasingly fat paychecks and untaxed group health insurance and defined-benefit pensions and apparent security had them swapping political agency (or call it moral agency) for material goodies. The political voice they were once capable of exercising had been fucking bought by Corporate America for Corporate America’s reasons.

    I think a very few labor-friendly intellectuals sort of understand the Great Swap (my made-up term) of material prosperity for political silence. It’s pretty difficult for anyone to buy into the notion that his own material prosperity has come at a price.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JackOH

    I think neoconservatives (Daniel Bell? Glazer?) were writing in the early 1970s about how unions investing their pensions in the stock market had ended the class war.

  197. @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Justice, solidarity, and firing squads. In the mind of a Marxist, all three of these go well together.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    Speaking of Hibernians:

    “Ernesto Guevara was born to Ernesto Guevara Lynch and Celia de la Serna y Llosa, on 14 June 1928, in Rosario, Argentina. He was the eldest of five children in a middle-class Argentine family of Spanish (including Basque and Cantabrian) descent, as well as Irish by means of his patrilineal ancestor Patrick Lynch. Although Guevara’s legal name on his birth certificate was “Ernesto Guevara”, his name sometimes appears with “de la Serna” and/or “Lynch” accompanying it.Referring to Che’s “restless” nature, his father declared “the first thing to note is that in my son’s veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Early_life

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @duncsbaby

    Irish rebel blood flows in my veins, and my political views are nearly the polar opposite of Mr. Guevara's.

    , @Ben tillman
    @duncsbaby

    Serna is a prominent Jewish name in the New World.

  198. @nobodyofnowhere
    @The Alarmist


    Well, he did say that he wouldn’t get LASIK done by an Asian, even for free.

     

    Given the context of a thread asking if people'd get LASIK done by someone from Congo for half off, it seemed like a pretty clear reference to affirmative action to me, with the meaning that ben tillman inferred from it.

    If anything, his "offense" in that comment is the implication that he'd take race into account in choosing his doctor.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    If anything, his “offense” in that comment is the implication that he’d take race into account in choosing his doctor.

    Nobody speaking from their heart of hearts would tell you they don’t.

    I remember sitting in a USAF Doc’s office and seeing his diploma on display from a university in Puerto Rico. It didn’t bother me that he was Puerto Rican, but I did wonder what kind of rep the school had for the doctors it turned out.

  199. @MarkinLA
    @The Alarmist

    You never watched Street Outlaws? It's the name of the Asian guy.

    https://okcfarmtruck.com/blogs/news/azn-breaks-an-axle

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Never saw it. Thanks. I thought it was just a cute shortcut.

  200. @JimDandy
    @ATBOTL

    At Fox, he could do what you're suggesting for approximately one show, and it would never air. But who knows, maybe after he does eventually get fired from Fox, he will go rogue and create an indie platform and get more candid on those issues and others.

    Probably not, though. The lack of true freedom of speech in America is very depressing. There are different levels of hell, though, and I'm very glad that Hillary Clinton is not our president, and I'm also glad that the worst of the worst Zionist Neocons--from Max Boot to Jennifer Rubin to Bill Kristol--are still crying themselves to sleep over Trump's win. (And no, that's not an act to bamboozle the goyim.) Also, I really, really don't want Biden to win the election. I won't argue with you if you tell me that Trump is a terrible president, but relative to Biden? Or anyone else who had an actual chance to win?

    BTW, what does this mean?

    "Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. "

    Replies: @Clyde, @128

    Trump is our best DC Desperado. He is our man in the arena. Trump is on the run (from deep state) same as other white boys his age (me) and 30 years younger.
    I can tune out the news until November and will still vote Trump our best last chance bet

    • Agree: JimDandy
  201. @Chrisnonymous
    @The Alarmist

    It's interesting the article starts not by noting some comment of Neff's but by noting the title of a thread he posted to. Guilt by association. (Tiny Duck and Corvinus should keep this in mind!) Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.

    If you comment here, you are on somebody’s watch list, and they have access to your IP records.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @The Alarmist

    How would "they have access to your IP records" unless they have access to Unz's servers?

    Replies: @International Jew, @U. Ranus

  202. @Percy Gryce
    @Art Deco

    Helen Andrews is pregnant.

    https://twitter.com/herandrews/status/1254801831500435461?s=20

    Replies: @Art Deco

    That’s great.

  203. @JackOH
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JW123, hat's off to you and Muggles for exposing something really important.

    Whether workers knew it or not, by the late 1950s or thereabouts, their increasingly fat paychecks and untaxed group health insurance and defined-benefit pensions and apparent security had them swapping political agency (or call it moral agency) for material goodies. The political voice they were once capable of exercising had been fucking bought by Corporate America for Corporate America's reasons.

    I think a very few labor-friendly intellectuals sort of understand the Great Swap (my made-up term) of material prosperity for political silence. It's pretty difficult for anyone to buy into the notion that his own material prosperity has come at a price.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I think neoconservatives (Daniel Bell? Glazer?) were writing in the early 1970s about how unions investing their pensions in the stock market had ended the class war.

  204. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Blackpilled American

    If society keeps producing tough white women, that's because only tough white woman are able to pass on their genes. It's Darwin at work. If you want a dainty, delicate, polite woman to marry, the man who bonds with her is going to have to do all the heavy lifting in the marriage. He's going to have to be the sole money-earner so she can stay home to raise the kids and be protected against the coarsening effects of working life, and he's going to have to pass on enough cash to his delicate kids so that they can reproduce while they're still young. They have to have trust funds paying them enough to support a family while they're still young enough to reproduce, in their twenties or so. Inheriting in their 60s after a hard life struggling doesn't cut it. They need that money in their 20s so they can get a family going.

    Darwinian survival means enough resources need to be passed onto the kids when it matters, not just in their childhood, but in their young adulthood so they can get a leg up over their peers in competition. The WASP class that dominated America for so long knew this, and didn't throw their young into the ocean and tell them to swim. It carefully steered, educated, gave jobs to, and gave cash to their young adults so they were well-positioned in life. This is how and why the WASP caste kept itself in power so long. The British nobility and elite classes gave their youngsters blatant advantages for centuries, and that's how the elite stayed elite.

    A philosophy that it's good to throw your young to the wolves is coming from your enemies. Yes, you'll have some strong kids here and there that survive the wolves, but many will slide back down the social ladder, and they'll have trouble forming families. The low reproduction rate of our white higher classes vs. black ghetto rats is a testimony to that.

    Darwin doesn't care for nice. Darwin cares about what survives. Yes, being strong means you'll survive, but so does being clever. Clever people don't throw their kids to the wolves in hopes that somehow, their offspring will survive the process. If they think their offspring need toughening up, they enroll their kids in the armed forces. Joining the army has been used for centuries by the elite for turning your offspring into leaders and toughening them up. In fact, it used to be expected that elites would do a stint in the army to improve their mettle. Clever people understand that leaders need training, not being kicked off a cliff and told to cope with what happens afterwards.

    Do you know why the US used to have better presidents? Because many of them had done a stint in the army. Military service was expected of them. It taught character, command, mental toughness, and honor.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Well when your working woman wife doesn’t pass on any morals or education to your kids because she doesn’t have the time…

    Goodluck with that.

    I don’t know a working woman in my real life who interacts with her kids much. Most shove the kids off to school and that be it.

    And the kids are lost/stupid or both. No one is there to guide them.

    And frankly, couples with two working parents tend to be pretty poor…because it means the man just doesn’t make enough which is not a good sign.

    I deal with the lower middle, and middle class. Working women are not good for those classes.

  205. @bomag
    @Almost Missouri


    In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.
     
    You explained it well, but I can't help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling's "Earth arose and crushed it".

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Almost Missouri, @Boomer Lives Matter

    You explained it well, but I can’t help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling’s “Earth arose and crushed it”.

    will it, though? This army of the disaffected will still be quite small, numerically. As long as the vast majority of whites are comfortable in their everyday lives, as long as babies don’t die, as long as the food is plentiful and cheap, as long as the heat and A/C work, as long as our cars whisk us away in comfort, there will be no revolution, and the elites can continue to sell us out…

    Yes, there were revolts aplenty in the past, even in america…but the everyday comforts of life were not as great as they are today…technology has bought our treasonous elites a lot of leeway…and they are talking advantage of that fact…

    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    there were revolts aplenty in the past, even in america…but the everyday comforts of life were not as great as they are today…technology has bought our treasonous elites a lot of leeway
     
    The key observation.
  206. @Achmed E. Newman
    Unless it's a big help for you with professional connections, etc., don't join even LinkedIn, much less Facebook or heaven forbid, MySpace. That deal with the reflections in the pictures was very poor op-sec. Why not just use an image off Bing, if possible, or be careful at least*?

    The fact is, though, if a guy that knew Mr. Neff wrote the email to get him in trouble, I'm sure he could get enough general information off his comments to dox him with, though maybe not to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a court of law, were there a jury of his peers (haha).

    For Mr. Alarmist, you know they don't need actual crimes anymore. Just those trigger words, "sexist", "bigoted", "homophobic", and "racist" are enough to scare the Bejesus out of even a tough guy like Tucker Carlson.


    .

    * If it were a Feral law enforcement thing, do these images, as saved off of a web page, not have identifying info that identifies the phone, or would that be only in the whole file itself, on the phone or a computer? Could a computer-guy here answer that one for me?

    I guess one could just print-screen on the computer, then work on it. I know this is extreme paranoia, and only a top-notch government agency (like those shown in Jason Bourne movies - see also Part 2 and Part 3) would be up for matching the info to a phone, hence ID information.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Adam Smith, @syonredux

    A 20 or 30 something not having a linkedin page is a sign to most employers that the person is hiding something. It is seen as a red flag to possible employers. In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @syonredux

    I regard a youngish person not having identifiable social media as a mark of maturity and common sense.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Hibernian
    @syonredux


    In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.
     
    How do they deal with the EEOC on that one?

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  207. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    You guys are really stuck on this ‘Tucker Carlson is on our side because he reads a Teleprompter Every Night’ thing

    And stuck on

    Because Neff was Doxxed he must be on our side also.

    Here’s what you need to be looking for in a Future Presidential Candidate:

    1) Already in the Government
    2) A low level position figuratively
    3) A long, good marriage
    4) Kids who are all successful with no divorces and practicing Christians
    5) Possibly demoted because he did the right thing or pissed off the wrong people
    6) A ‘plodder’ a good person who plods

    Start looking through people like the Dems found Tammy Duckworth (where the f did she come from)

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anonymous

    Sen Duckworth's claims to fame are her severely disabled veteran status and that she is a woman. In the present climate she gets very little minority cred for bring 1/2 white and half Asian; maybe a little from some white gentry liberals. She might have left the service as a Major, I'm not sure. (She is one of my 2 Senators along with the incomparable Dick Durbin.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  208. @syonredux
    @Achmed E. Newman

    A 20 or 30 something not having a linkedin page is a sign to most employers that the person is hiding something. It is seen as a red flag to possible employers. In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Hibernian

    I regard a youngish person not having identifiable social media as a mark of maturity and common sense.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Gordo

    I regard a youngish person not having identifiable social media as a mark of maturity and common sense.

    How many people do you employ or supervise?

  209. @dfordoom
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    The Overton window hasn’t shifted enough to permit going after high level Wokemon like Duckworth.
     
    The Overton Window has shifted a lot under the Trump Presidency. The only trouble is, it's shifted to the Left.

    If Trump is re-elected it will shift even further Left.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    The Overton Window has shifted a lot under the Trump Presidency. The only trouble is, it’s shifted to the Left.

    Scott Alexander actually predicted as much. Trump attempted to launch a full frontal attack on the enemy from a position of weakness. Jeff Davis or Tojo could have told him how well that usually works out.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  210. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    Huh? I’ve never heard of AutoAdmit, but looking at them now I just see page after page of sub-moronic threads. And the ones CNN quoted are consistent with that perception.

  211. @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

    I never heard of most of those women, so I’m left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    The three I do know of, Coulter, McArdle and Malkin, have intelligent, interesting and important things to say. It may be that in two of those cases, they have sacrificed the possibility of family to do this, which should give us greater appreciation for their commitment to their craft and cause. I know in Malkin’s case, she has had to pick up and move her family at short notice after credible death threats toward her from lefties who disagreed with what she said and would fight her to death to prevent her from saying it. One can understand that family and counter-elite punditry may be mutually exclusive for many.

    There seems to be a spergy assumption that because the right acknowledges gender differences and esteems family formation that this somehow translates into a yearning for some Handmaid’s Tale myth. Not so. Handmaid’s Tale holds no appeal to the right. Its sole appeal is to the left as a wish fulfillment tale of what they wish the right believed about them.

    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they’d just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they’d be more fulfilled without, is deplorable. Heck, it’s not even exclusive to women. A good day in the office is worthless compared to a bad day with my kids.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    I never heard of most of those women, so I’m left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    I'm not aware of any not-explicitly leftoid woman employed in topical commentary you're as likely to have heard of as these women. There are a bunch I left out. I didn't name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker) because one strikes me as a confused person and the other four as poseurs. I didn't name Mona Charen, either, because she's revealed herself to be someone who knows nothing and cares nothing about policy - Christopher Buckley without the humor.


    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they’d just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they’d be more fulfilled without, is deplorable.

    About 1/3 of the workforce in 1957 was female, at a time when most women were married by their 21st birthday and at a time when the share of the male population who had shuffled out of the labor force was a good deal smaller. I suspect the three main differences between now and then you'd discover if you drilled down further would be that it was quite unusual for married women with pre-school children to have jobs, that women accounted for only about 5% of those in professional-managerial jobs, and that women in professional-managerial jobs were more-often-than-not spinsters. The notion that 'economic forces' have 'forced' women into workplaces is odd. Employee compensation per worker is a great deal higher in real terms than it was in 1957.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  212. @bomag
    @Bobbocio


    Who knows what MSM’s policy will be tomorrow?
     
    Indeed.

    Yagoda was sure of his immunity to the very end.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Kratoklastes

    Huge difference: Yagoda (and Beria etc) were insiders who fell out of favour.

    So a modern parallel would be if the WokeBorg turned its lidded gaze on Sarah Jeong or the faggy cunt from Patreon.

    On the bright side: we’re not far from that at this point.

    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they’re not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don’t like.

    There’s such a thing as feminists and lesbians (and just ordinary-ass normal women) who have had a gutful of men in dresses shrieking louder than a hen’s night group, too.

    Give it a little while longer and then they’ll all be at each others’ throats. In the meantime, some good stuff will happen – e.g., the dismantling of statues that glorify the losing side in the US Civil War.

    I have strong views on the outright wrongness of the Union side of that conflict, but the erection of those statues was outright political pandering to the losers, decades after the event.

    Imagine the US/Allied response if a German government announced it was going to put up statues of Rommel, Guderian or Skorzeny, along with a more general hagiography of the patriotic efforts of the Wehrmacht and the rehabilitation of the Kriegsfahne and swastika.

    Now imagine how a German Red Sea Pedestrian would feel about that: that’ll give a sense of how US blacks feel (and felt) about ‘commemoration’ of the Confederacy.

    It’s also weird as fuck that US soldiers don’t feel weird about bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist ‘foreign’ military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again… would the US ever contemplate “Fort Rommel”? “Fort Zubaydah”?).

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Kratoklastes

    "...bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist ‘foreign’ military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again… would the US ever contemplate “Fort Rommel”? “Fort Zubaydah”?)."

    I reported for duty at the end of November, 1989, at a base named after a War of 1812 Captain and Union Major General.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams_Dix

    , @Dissident
    @Kratoklastes


    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they’re not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don’t like.
     
    The overwhelming majority of prominent, influential, officious Jews of the type you allude-to are irreligious and even abysmally ignorant of the religion of their forefathers. Outside of the Orthodox, few Jews are likely to have worn tefillin since their bar-mitzvah-- if they even did then (or even acknowledged their becoming bar-mitzvah).
    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/hasidic-boy-wearing-phylacteries-picture-id583739576?s=2048x2048
  213. @3g4me
    @Blackpilled American

    @3 Blackpilled American: Laura Ingraham adopted two mestizo children from central America and is raising them as a proud single mother. Yes, yes, her fiance dumped her when she had breast cancer, but that is irrelevant to her prior and subsequent choices. She chose to focus on her career before family, and she chose to adopt inter-racially. So she's just like all the Sailer readers - sorta race-realist but with 'muh character' exceptions - which means melting pot civ nattery, which means clownworld.

    Replies: @dr kill

    I think they are Russians.

  214. @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco

    I never heard of most of those women, so I'm left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    The three I do know of, Coulter, McArdle and Malkin, have intelligent, interesting and important things to say. It may be that in two of those cases, they have sacrificed the possibility of family to do this, which should give us greater appreciation for their commitment to their craft and cause. I know in Malkin's case, she has had to pick up and move her family at short notice after credible death threats toward her from lefties who disagreed with what she said and would fight her to death to prevent her from saying it. One can understand that family and counter-elite punditry may be mutually exclusive for many.

    There seems to be a spergy assumption that because the right acknowledges gender differences and esteems family formation that this somehow translates into a yearning for some Handmaid's Tale myth. Not so. Handmaid's Tale holds no appeal to the right. Its sole appeal is to the left as a wish fulfillment tale of what they wish the right believed about them.

    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they'd just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they'd be more fulfilled without, is deplorable. Heck, it's not even exclusive to women. A good day in the office is worthless compared to a bad day with my kids.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I never heard of most of those women, so I’m left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    I’m not aware of any not-explicitly leftoid woman employed in topical commentary you’re as likely to have heard of as these women. There are a bunch I left out. I didn’t name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker) because one strikes me as a confused person and the other four as poseurs. I didn’t name Mona Charen, either, because she’s revealed herself to be someone who knows nothing and cares nothing about policy – Christopher Buckley without the humor.

    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they’d just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they’d be more fulfilled without, is deplorable.

    About 1/3 of the workforce in 1957 was female, at a time when most women were married by their 21st birthday and at a time when the share of the male population who had shuffled out of the labor force was a good deal smaller. I suspect the three main differences between now and then you’d discover if you drilled down further would be that it was quite unusual for married women with pre-school children to have jobs, that women accounted for only about 5% of those in professional-managerial jobs, and that women in professional-managerial jobs were more-often-than-not spinsters. The notion that ‘economic forces’ have ‘forced’ women into workplaces is odd. Employee compensation per worker is a great deal higher in real terms than it was in 1957.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco


    I didn’t name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker)
     
    Well, I've heard of Meghan McCain, who has no intellect I can detect, and S.E. Cupp who started out as a sort of weak-tea housebroken version of Ann Coulter before conveniently becoming woke in the Obama years.* So I'm gonna put all them in the Mr. Anon category too.

    The notion that ‘economic forces’ have ‘forced’ women into workplaces is odd.
     
    "Odd" Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    https://robertreich.org/post/1060844316

    *Now married, with child.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @BenKenobi

  215. @duncsbaby
    @Hibernian

    Speaking of Hibernians:

    "Ernesto Guevara was born to Ernesto Guevara Lynch and Celia de la Serna y Llosa, on 14 June 1928, in Rosario, Argentina. He was the eldest of five children in a middle-class Argentine family of Spanish (including Basque and Cantabrian) descent, as well as Irish by means of his patrilineal ancestor Patrick Lynch. Although Guevara's legal name on his birth certificate was "Ernesto Guevara", his name sometimes appears with "de la Serna" and/or "Lynch" accompanying it.Referring to Che's "restless" nature, his father declared "the first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Early_life

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Ben tillman

    Irish rebel blood flows in my veins, and my political views are nearly the polar opposite of Mr. Guevara’s.

  216. @The Alarmist
    @Chrisnonymous


    Also, we all should remember that there are people like them who post here and also possible woke lurkers who read without posting.
     
    If you comment here, you are on somebody's watch list, and they have access to your IP records.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    How would “they have access to your IP records” unless they have access to Unz‘s servers?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Almost Missouri

    By tapping into any one of the servers (typically a dozen or two) that relay your computer's request to unz.com, and unz.com's response (ie packets containing 1500-byte pieces of posts here) back to your computer. Every packet contains, along with unz.com content, a packet header with source and destination information.

    Tor protects you by relaying your requests through intermediary servers that strip your information from the header (while of course caching it so they know what to do with the response from unz.com).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @U. Ranus
    @Almost Missouri

    Unz serves tracking scripts by Facebook, Goolag, and others, and has been doing so since forever. If you have a Facebook account, they know everything about your unz.com activities across any number of different pseudonyms you may have ever used. Same story for Goolag.

    I don't doubt for a second that various Alphabet Soup Entities have access to those data hoards as well, although that almost doesn't matter as the major theme of what's happening in the US is privatization of everything anyway.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  217. @syonredux
    @Achmed E. Newman

    A 20 or 30 something not having a linkedin page is a sign to most employers that the person is hiding something. It is seen as a red flag to possible employers. In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Hibernian

    In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.

    How do they deal with the EEOC on that one?

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Hibernian

    LinkedIn offers a work around the EEOC hasn’t figured out, yet.

  218. @Anonymous
    You guys are really stuck on this 'Tucker Carlson is on our side because he reads a Teleprompter Every Night' thing

    And stuck on

    Because Neff was Doxxed he must be on our side also.

    Here's what you need to be looking for in a Future Presidential Candidate:

    1) Already in the Government
    2) A low level position figuratively
    3) A long, good marriage
    4) Kids who are all successful with no divorces and practicing Christians
    5) Possibly demoted because he did the right thing or pissed off the wrong people
    6) A 'plodder' a good person who plods

    Start looking through people like the Dems found Tammy Duckworth (where the f did she come from)

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Sen Duckworth’s claims to fame are her severely disabled veteran status and that she is a woman. In the present climate she gets very little minority cred for bring 1/2 white and half Asian; maybe a little from some white gentry liberals. She might have left the service as a Major, I’m not sure. (She is one of my 2 Senators along with the incomparable Dick Durbin.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Hibernian

    She is supposed to be "half" Asian, but she looks unmistakably full Asian. Either her mother has never really leveled with her about her father, or Sen. Duckworth has never leveled with the public about him.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

  219. @botazefa
    @HammerJack

    What is an IP locator? It's not like the geographic location of subnets aren't well known.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Yeah I meant IP addresses which can serve as locators.

  220. @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    I never heard of most of those women, so I’m left to conclude that they are as Mr. Anon says.

    I'm not aware of any not-explicitly leftoid woman employed in topical commentary you're as likely to have heard of as these women. There are a bunch I left out. I didn't name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker) because one strikes me as a confused person and the other four as poseurs. I didn't name Mona Charen, either, because she's revealed herself to be someone who knows nothing and cares nothing about policy - Christopher Buckley without the humor.


    Most, but not all, women are happier with children and families, as they have been for millennia. That a combination of economic subversion forces them into workplaces they’d just as well not enter, and cultural subversion deceives them into entering careers they’d be more fulfilled without, is deplorable.

    About 1/3 of the workforce in 1957 was female, at a time when most women were married by their 21st birthday and at a time when the share of the male population who had shuffled out of the labor force was a good deal smaller. I suspect the three main differences between now and then you'd discover if you drilled down further would be that it was quite unusual for married women with pre-school children to have jobs, that women accounted for only about 5% of those in professional-managerial jobs, and that women in professional-managerial jobs were more-often-than-not spinsters. The notion that 'economic forces' have 'forced' women into workplaces is odd. Employee compensation per worker is a great deal higher in real terms than it was in 1957.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I didn’t name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker)

    Well, I’ve heard of Meghan McCain, who has no intellect I can detect, and S.E. Cupp who started out as a sort of weak-tea housebroken version of Ann Coulter before conveniently becoming woke in the Obama years.* So I’m gonna put all them in the Mr. Anon category too.

    The notion that ‘economic forces’ have ‘forced’ women into workplaces is odd.

    “Odd” Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    https://robertreich.org/post/1060844316

    *Now married, with child.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    Odd” Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    Robert Reich made a name for himself ca. 1983 writing about industry. I was some years down the road surprised to discover (1) he had almost no history of employment in commercial or industrial enterprise and (2) no classroom training in business disciplines or economics. He was a law professor. He was, 35 years ago, a satisfactory pundit (even if, substantively, it was mostly BS). Now he's an old crank.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @BenKenobi
    @Almost Missouri

    S.E. Cupp is one hot mommy. She is perfectly thicc in all the right places. Plus I'm a sucker for mani/pedis and heels.

  221. @JohnnyWalker123
    @ATBOTL


    Tucker was a hardcore neocon for many years before his miraculous transformation.

     

    No, he wasn't.

    Tucker Carlson was pro-Ron Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl5bsWmsBQ

    He came out against the Iraq War in 2004.

    https://observer.com/2004/05/newly-dovish-tucker-carlson-goes-publickimmel-writer-ribs-times/

    he’s changed his mind about the war in Iraq. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” he said. “It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually.”
     
    His views on racial diversity back in 2004 (same article).

    For instance, he said, “I was thinking this morning: ‘Diversity is the strength of our country.’ Oh yeah? How’s that? Why don’t you explain that to me? I don’t see that. I mean, is diversity the strength of the Balkans? No.”

     

    He was critical of Israel back in 2002.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sR9uCD4KsjUJ:www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/08/cf.00.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    CARLSON: Wait -- hold it Mr. Ambassador, this is with all due respect, more than a difference of opinion. Our president, President Bush was very clear in his demand to Israel. Israel ignored him in what many interpret as in an insulting way. That's fine, that's Israel's right. But the question then arises, why should the U.S. taxpayers continue to send $3 billion to Israel if Israel, our closest ally in the region, insults this way? Why?

     


    CARLSON: ... my question is why should U.S. taxpayers continue to pay for ...

     


    CARLSON: ... subsidize a country that insults us.
     

    the behavior today at the Church of the Nativity where Israeli soldiers threw a bomb in it, set the church on fire. According to eyewitnesses, including Franciscan (ph) priests within the church, and in fact shot someone in the church. How can you defend that?
     

    CNN employees who say that Israeli soldiers rammed the CNN truck and fired a bullet into the windshield of it. Now they're -- in the last 10 days there have been 20 journalists shot at by Israeli soldiers. Five have been struck by bullets. One "The Boston Globe" was shot.
     
    From what I recall, back during the 90s and 2000s, Tucker Carlson was an independent-minded conservative. Often quite anti-interventionist and critical of Israel. Very far from being a Neocon.

    My recollection of Tucker Carlson is very different from yours.

    The type of Conservatives who were on Crossfire (Tucker Carlson, Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak) often had views that could be considered "Paleo." Anti-war, skeptical of Israel, isolationist, culturally traditional. Not Neocon.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Kyle, @ATBOTL

    Tucker wrote a hit piece against Pat Buchanan for Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard. I read it at the time, probably around 1995 or 1996. He supported the Iraq war until public opinion turned against it. Case closed. He’s a huckster whose job it is to keep whites on the GOP plantation. Keep falling for this act if you want to be agonizing over voting for Nikki Haley in 2024 because “we have to keep out the DemonRAT.” Tucker will be there to remind you that Nikki isn’t perfect, but “America won’t survive if we don’t elect her.”

    Give support to openly pro-white voices only.

    • Replies: @milchharvey
    @ATBOTL

    You are absolutely right. Leave the GOP plantation for the white male hating Democratic Party slave dens. Why didn't I see that? You are so smart.

    Fuck the Democratic Party ant-white racists and fuck those that support them.

  222. @Hibernian
    @Anonymous

    Sen Duckworth's claims to fame are her severely disabled veteran status and that she is a woman. In the present climate she gets very little minority cred for bring 1/2 white and half Asian; maybe a little from some white gentry liberals. She might have left the service as a Major, I'm not sure. (She is one of my 2 Senators along with the incomparable Dick Durbin.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    She is supposed to be “half” Asian, but she looks unmistakably full Asian. Either her mother has never really leveled with her about her father, or Sen. Duckworth has never leveled with the public about him.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Almost Missouri

    Because she’s so fat, she can look Like a mestiza in some photos.

  223. @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco


    I didn’t name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker)
     
    Well, I've heard of Meghan McCain, who has no intellect I can detect, and S.E. Cupp who started out as a sort of weak-tea housebroken version of Ann Coulter before conveniently becoming woke in the Obama years.* So I'm gonna put all them in the Mr. Anon category too.

    The notion that ‘economic forces’ have ‘forced’ women into workplaces is odd.
     
    "Odd" Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    https://robertreich.org/post/1060844316

    *Now married, with child.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @BenKenobi

    Odd” Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    Robert Reich made a name for himself ca. 1983 writing about industry. I was some years down the road surprised to discover (1) he had almost no history of employment in commercial or industrial enterprise and (2) no classroom training in business disciplines or economics. He was a law professor. He was, 35 years ago, a satisfactory pundit (even if, substantively, it was mostly BS). Now he’s an old crank.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco

    Old crank or not, I think he happens to be right about that and he shows data to prove it. Spending some years as an official observer of labor, if not a laborer one's self, is a plausible way to come to an observation.

    BTW, do you have some kind of thread reader locked in on iSteve or your comment RSS or something? It's inhuman how fast your replies happen. I burn out my comment limits yakking with you.

    Replies: @Clyde

  224. @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    Odd” Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    Robert Reich made a name for himself ca. 1983 writing about industry. I was some years down the road surprised to discover (1) he had almost no history of employment in commercial or industrial enterprise and (2) no classroom training in business disciplines or economics. He was a law professor. He was, 35 years ago, a satisfactory pundit (even if, substantively, it was mostly BS). Now he's an old crank.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Old crank or not, I think he happens to be right about that and he shows data to prove it. Spending some years as an official observer of labor, if not a laborer one’s self, is a plausible way to come to an observation.

    BTW, do you have some kind of thread reader locked in on iSteve or your comment RSS or something? It’s inhuman how fast your replies happen. I burn out my comment limits yakking with you.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Almost Missouri

    Anyone who properly uses the word "crank" here has my respect. I have used it a few times at Unz, you are the only other.

  225. Today’s Dilbert BTW surprisingly takes on cancel culture — the boss denies being a white supremacist and the evil HR cat sternly explains that it’s the people who want his job who will make that decision

  226. @anonymous
    This should be a reality check for how people handle themselves online, including how Unz.com displays comment histories.

    One of the best features about Unz is the ability to post anonymously. It's funny that some posters will take offense to this, meanwhile if you go through their comment histories for an hour, you could find enough personal tidbits to narrow their identity down to <100 IRL individuals.

    We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features -- estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.

    Unz.com should stop providing comment histories for regular accounts beyond 6 months or so. Simply doing that would make a potential doxxing more difficult.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright, @SafeNow

    “We’re approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features — estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.”

    Wouldn’t it foil the algorithm (and human) if one were to periodically include false information, false clues?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @SafeNow

    It's likely a small change to the Unz.com codebase to add a date filter to comment histories for non-Unz accounts. Probably less than a few hours of work.

    Expecting users to periodically sprinkle false information into their comments is asking a lot.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    , @Known Fact
    @SafeNow

    Good idea. OK, I dated all four of the gals from Vixen

  227. @bomag
    @al gore rhythms

    You have laid out a good response.

    But I can't help but think that Neff did nothing wrong, and is just being punished for having the wrong political thoughts.

    Our side still has the mentality that if we are nice enough, the Left will not continue their campaign of crushing and obliterating us.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    I agree, and of course it’s a truth generally acknowledged on right-wing blogs that the inevitable apology and retraction never works anyway. But in this case what would happen if Carlson said ‘to hell with you, this is no big deal and we’ll just carry on as if nothing has happened’? His programme already suffers from a lack of advertising, and I can well imagine that the bosses of the network get a lot of grief from people further up the political ladder for tolerating him. Carlson probably feels he is skating on thin ice as it is, and wouldn’t want to use up any goodwill he has left on what is probably a lost cause.

  228. @Pericles
    @Clyde



    But if I were him I would sign up for six months at a Muay Thai kick-boxing camp in Thailand. One outside a city. One that has banana stalks growing that you can try your kick boxing skills on.

     

    I'd do it myself if I wasn't so badass already.

    Replies: @Clyde

    You are a reasonable and intelligent Scandinavian so you would only need 4 months in a Muay Thai camp in the Thai countryside to set you (more) right.

    Matter of fact you could get rich setting them up right where you are. Out in the country and those who enter sign a 4 month agreement. They will forfeit their payment if they leave too soon. All male of course. I visited Sweden for just one day, before you were born. 1973. But spent months in Denmark.

  229. @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco

    Old crank or not, I think he happens to be right about that and he shows data to prove it. Spending some years as an official observer of labor, if not a laborer one's self, is a plausible way to come to an observation.

    BTW, do you have some kind of thread reader locked in on iSteve or your comment RSS or something? It's inhuman how fast your replies happen. I burn out my comment limits yakking with you.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Anyone who properly uses the word “crank” here has my respect. I have used it a few times at Unz, you are the only other.

  230. @Jim Don Bob
    @Neuday

    Such as?

    Replies: @Neuday

    Here’s a good list, and I use one of those listed, for about $35/yr. I prefer a VPN with servers in multiple countries so I can choose my “location”.

    https://reviewedbypro.com/the-best-vpn-with-no-log-policy/

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  231. @anonymous
    Tucker has spoken for months about showing resolution. But judging by the language used by Fox News execs in denouncing Neff, it looks like they immediately decided to fire the guy.

    https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1282036523299479554

    And it looks like Tucker acceded to the demand.

    Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @ATBOTL, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @a guy named me

    once he concedes, right or wrong, the left will smell blood. It’s beginning of the ‘Glenn Beckoning” of him.

  232. @Gordo
    @syonredux

    I regard a youngish person not having identifiable social media as a mark of maturity and common sense.

    Replies: @anon

    I regard a youngish person not having identifiable social media as a mark of maturity and common sense.

    How many people do you employ or supervise?

  233. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Tucker could say, "We believe in freedom and we don't look into our staff's private lives, as you would not like your employer to look into your private life."

    The "Easter Egg" thing or whatever work-related screenshots Neff supposedly shared online, if these are real things that actually happened, could be a violation of Neff's actual or implied employment contract. Anyway, if I were his employer, it would at least annoy me and might be grounds for dismissal.

    But whatever Tucker's personal/professional reaction, he's probably under pressure from whichever Murdoch runs Fox News to denounce Neff or be ejected himself, so Tucker's own views may be beside the point.

    Fox News could respond the same way as Tucker, above. Since Neff already resigned (whether under duress or not), nobody has to create a rationale. Indeed, they need not even comment at all. Of course Fox News has already announced that Tucker will comment, so they obviously have some statement in mind they want Tucker to make. It is tediously predictable what that is likely to be.

    Inasmuch as Neff already resigned, I'm not sure he has anything to defend. His apparently mild comments are fairly obviously true if somewhat snarky, but if snark is a crime, the gulags will soon be full of young lefties and righties. Of course this isn't about standards, this is about harming Tucker. For Neff, the real damage is to his "reputation". In quotes, because there is not an objective thing there, but Neff will be unemployable in anything connected to the Globohomo Hivemind, which is increasingly anything connected to earning a paycheck. Not that he has done anything seriously wrong, just that the MSM is expert at painting its enemies as vile untouchables, and most employers respond with don't-call-us-we'll-call-you, so it's not like you have a chance to defend yourself in court, cross-examine witnesses and evidence, etc. You're just unpersoned, and that's the end of it: no appeal, no counterclaim, no refutation. It's not that response is disallowed, it's just irrelevant. Inside the Beltway has rejected you, Outside the Beltway has been informed you are a liability. They will move on to their next candidate. Plenty of fish in the sea, but you're no longer of them. Unpersonings are in some ways more deadly than lawfare. In law, there is a least a pretense of leveling the playing field and equal rights, if you have the money or support and fortitude to fight back. In unpersonings, Globohomo just blots you out, the end.

    Replies: @anon, @bomag, @Clyde, @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    I agree with this in principle, but my experience with America’s WASP class is that to a surprising degree they do let their kids sink or swim. Not 100% obviously, but far more than the silver-spoon-to-the-manor-born stereotype would lead you to believe, and more even than common prudence might lead you to expect. Whether this is a cause of their decline, a result of their decline, or has always been true I don’t know. It is just an observation.

    From what I can tell (history, and a small amount of personal experience) protected upbringing is more true of the English upper class, and was still more true historically.

    Certainly it is a conundrum for any elite: how to preserve your own progeny’s role in it when they may or may not merit it? You can just cross your fingers and rely on nature (r-selection), or invest massively in nurture to squeeze out whatever merit genes have bestowed (K-selection). Obviously, either approach has optimal circumstances.

    I have always admired the ancient Persian admonition that the proper upbringing for a young nobleman was to learn “to ride, shoot straight and speak the truth”, implying that after that everything else would follow naturally according to ability and destiny.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Almost Missouri

    I grew up in a WASP family. We were all inculcated in fair play, being rewarded for merit, and that nepotism was bad. Great principles, but left us all defenseless in the face of the many immigrant tribes who put loyalty to the clan above all.

  234. @duncsbaby
    @Hibernian

    Speaking of Hibernians:

    "Ernesto Guevara was born to Ernesto Guevara Lynch and Celia de la Serna y Llosa, on 14 June 1928, in Rosario, Argentina. He was the eldest of five children in a middle-class Argentine family of Spanish (including Basque and Cantabrian) descent, as well as Irish by means of his patrilineal ancestor Patrick Lynch. Although Guevara's legal name on his birth certificate was "Ernesto Guevara", his name sometimes appears with "de la Serna" and/or "Lynch" accompanying it.Referring to Che's "restless" nature, his father declared "the first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Early_life

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Ben tillman

    Serna is a prominent Jewish name in the New World.

  235. @Thoughts
    @Anonymous

    Get a good-looking girlfriend, post a post-sex in bed photo with the light shining upon her face on twitter

    Tucker does the same with his wife.

    Problem. Solved.

    Maybe a butt-slapping video, and of the wife or gf (in a white men's shirt) running away giggling.


    It would be super fun though if Tucker were to be like 'Our Head Writer, Neff, has left to pursue other interests' and then on the screen a Photo of Neff with a Super Hot Chick looking adoringly at him.

    This is how we'll win.

    Replies: @Marat, @Reg Cæsar, @Ben tillman

    What in the world?

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Ben tillman

    It really did make sense

    If Jake Neff had a twitter page. He should delete everything and leave one of those up and let that be it.

    If Tucker was cancelled the same on twitter.

    The final suggestion was for the show. Just say, 'He's pursuing other interests' and then put a photo up of him and his wife/fiance/gf whatnot.

    It's time the Right start ignoring all these accusations of racism and reply with something complete off the wall, ideally something that shows 'And yet...I'm still getting laid'

    That will never happen because Tucker isn't on our side. But if he was...

    You know what would be fun, a corny memorial Goodbye thing slideshow...photos of Neff and Carlson set to music...

    Just make the whole thing a joke

    The weirder the better, because everyone stops and 'resets' emotionally when they see weird, and if you can make them laugh extra credit

  236. @Almost Missouri
    @Hibernian

    She is supposed to be "half" Asian, but she looks unmistakably full Asian. Either her mother has never really leveled with her about her father, or Sen. Duckworth has never leveled with the public about him.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Because she’s so fat, she can look Like a mestiza in some photos.

  237. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @bomag


    You explained it well, but I can’t help but think that this creation of an army of disaffected will redound upon the woke; Kipling’s “Earth arose and crushed it”.

     

    will it, though? This army of the disaffected will still be quite small, numerically. As long as the vast majority of whites are comfortable in their everyday lives, as long as babies don't die, as long as the food is plentiful and cheap, as long as the heat and A/C work, as long as our cars whisk us away in comfort, there will be no revolution, and the elites can continue to sell us out...

    Yes, there were revolts aplenty in the past, even in america...but the everyday comforts of life were not as great as they are today...technology has bought our treasonous elites a lot of leeway...and they are talking advantage of that fact...

    Replies: @Sam Malone

    there were revolts aplenty in the past, even in america…but the everyday comforts of life were not as great as they are today…technology has bought our treasonous elites a lot of leeway

    The key observation.

  238. @Almost Missouri
    @Art Deco


    I didn’t name the others (Meghan McCain, S.E. Cupp, Margaret Hoover, Jennifer Rubin, and Kathleen Parker)
     
    Well, I've heard of Meghan McCain, who has no intellect I can detect, and S.E. Cupp who started out as a sort of weak-tea housebroken version of Ann Coulter before conveniently becoming woke in the Obama years.* So I'm gonna put all them in the Mr. Anon category too.

    The notion that ‘economic forces’ have ‘forced’ women into workplaces is odd.
     
    "Odd" Secretary of Labor Robert Reich made the observation too.

    https://robertreich.org/post/1060844316

    *Now married, with child.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @BenKenobi

    S.E. Cupp is one hot mommy. She is perfectly thicc in all the right places. Plus I’m a sucker for mani/pedis and heels.

  239. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”

    Well, if that’s the case, I’m not sure this would even be called a “doxxing.” If you tell a bunch of your friends who you are and they spread it around on your forum, someone hostile merely needs to go through your archives to *prove* your identity, which is a very different task than somehow figuring it out in the first place.

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo

    Well, maybe. I just glanced at a couple of threads and it mostly seemed crude humor and insults, really low-quality stuff. Perhaps you could provide links to a couple of their most impressive discussions.

    • Replies: @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Ron Unz

    yeah, i think that Neff has some personal issues, if you ask me...a nice guy, really smart and educated, but he has some issues...he did basically dox himself..

    as to whether xo/autoadmit is a high-IQ discussion forum, I would say that yes, that is the case, although, on a cursory scan of xo, there would appear to be many threads relating to crude humor, etc...but i would definitely say that i have never come across a more educated or higher-IQ group of posters on any forum anywhere...but to see that sort of quality, you would have to dig into some of the threads...in many ways the high quality of the content there is expressed via clever and original use of language...

    most of the poasters there (including myself) voted for obama...then things in america started to change...then we voted for trump...now many of us have abandoned trump (although many others have stuck with him)...tucker carlson is now all the rage there...and here...

    so that forum is somewhat representative of how white political trends are evolving...

    , @Corvinus
    @Ron Unz

    "Well, if that’s the case, I’m not sure this would even be called a “doxxing.”"

    Exactly. But Mr. Sailer is in the midst of raising funds to remodel his closet, so what better way than to sensationalize this story with a false equivalence to get his audience to put more coin in his coffers.

    The fact of the matter is that this writer wanted to make it known that he had clout and influence. Perhaps he as a "gamma male" (Vox Day reference to the social-sexual hierarchy) was tired of being the "brains" of Tucker's operation.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8512129/Tucker-Carlsons-writer-resigns-secretly-posting-racist-sexist-remarks-online-forum.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @JackOH
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, FWIW, plenty of people in my area know my screen name and that I offer occasional comments here. Judgment call. I've "sold" UR, told people it was a valuable resource, and believed I could "sell" more by saying I wasn't just a reader, but an occasional commenter. The robustness of opinion here, catholicity of viewpoints, sheer erudition, sincerity of purpose, genuine persuasiveness, and much more all make UR very difficult for anti-free speech haters to get their arms around this Webzine. Maybe I pre-doxed myself.

    I'm also not in reputation-sensitive employment, such as law, politics, the academy, or journalism. My opinions as locally published don't rely at all on piggybacking atop employment or other "positional" advantage.

    Long story short. Fear of doxing seems real to me for folks in reputation-sensitive employment. I'm sorry this Neff fellow lost his job on pretty flimsy grounds. But, shouldn't someone at Fox have counseled Neff that the Tucker Carlson name is at the top of the bill? That he shouldn't do anything that could undermine the top of the card?

  240. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    As to your assertion that “Neff is eminently replaceable” and that “there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy,” I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common.

    Do you not have any constructive advice to Neff or Carlson as to how to address this situation?

  241. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @al gore rhythms
    @Anonymous

    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for 'throwing him under the bus' and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as 'taking one for the team' which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff's remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don't hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous

    Good question. Maybe say that he offered to resign rather than being pushed, which would take the heat off Tucker for ‘throwing him under the bus’ and at the same time at least allow Neff to be framed as ‘taking one for the team’ which is at least a noble gesture and implies they both see there is a greater cause that is best served by him leaving.

    I guess if was Tucker I would stress the fact that those on the right are under a great deal more scrutiny than those on the left. I would point out some of the outrageous things that leftists have said and done and got away with it. This at least gives the chance for the audience to recontextualise Neff’s remarks as being tame in comparison to those of leftists, but without Tucker actually making this explicit.

    Then he could tell the audience that although this is unfair, this is the way things are and the only choice left for those on the right is to hold themselves to a very high standard that the left don’t hold themselves to. At least then he would have alerted his viewers to the difficulty of the situation and made them aware they are fighting against difficult odds. But that they are fighting and will never stop fighting because the things that are at stake are worth fighting for.

    This is very good.

  242. I’m a partner at a large national law firm and have been a regular poster on AutoAdmit (and it’s predecessor site) since the early 2000s. I have been posting with CharlesXII since whenever he started posting on AutoAdmit — probably around 7 years ago. I am very familiar with the site, with CharlesXII as a poster, and with all the relevant background information on this matter:

    A few important things to clarify:

    1) There is no indication whatsoever that CharlesXII intentionally dropped “easter eggs” — either in the WaPo DateLab piece or in any of his writing for Tucker. People on the board like to assume he did, but this is just because it makes them feel more connected to the story and that the board is more important than it is. Whoever was researching the story assumed that if people on the board believed this was the case, it must be the case. (It doesn’t help that it fits their narrative.) For example, Charles said “alcohol is poison” on his DateLab date and this was taken as an “easter egg.” This is a common saying on the board. I use this saying all the time — at least monthly — in my real life. When i do this, I’m not dropping “easter eggs” to the people in my life. The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon. The same goes for any similarity between what he said on the board and what made it into Tucker’s monologues.

    2) CharlesXII has never admitted to being Neff and has only ever denied it to the extent that he made any comments on the question at all. Further, he has never done anything to intentionally “out” or “doxx” himself. My point is not that Neff is not actually Charles XII, but that his “outting” or “doxxing” was neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence. (I would say it meets a negligence standard though.) Was he dumb for not changing accounts or stopping posting altogether after people on the board figured out who he was? Yes. But he absolutely did not intentionally out himself.

    3) CharlesXII was literally the most non-controversial and benign person posting on the board. He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race. He was known as being a rather traditional Catholic conservative who did not really buy into the more outside-the-box political / societal ideologies floating around on the forum.

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor. Any claim that the board is some kind of White-Supremacist forum is specious.

    5) “AZN” is common internet shorthand for “Asian” and is in no was a slur or derogatory.

    I could go on for hours, but I’m rather busy. I will try to make myself available to answer anyone’s questions on this topic for the remainder of the day.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri, Mr Mox
    • Replies: @anon
    @Finnian Clonard

    What do you think Tucker should say on the matter?

    I wonder if a few contextual comments such as these could be instructive:


    He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race.
     

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor.
     

    5) “AZN” is common internet shorthand for “Asian” and is in no was a slur or derogatory.
     
    In addition, Tucker should point out what is—in contrast—the sincere and malicious anti-White vitriol in the mainstream press, both in its reporting and in the comments on social media by its employees.

    What is the path forward for Neff that would allow him to continue to be an incredibly valuable truth teller and political participant?
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Finnian Clonard

    Questions, if you don't mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?

    Whether or not you did know, if Neff's doxxing was "neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence," how do you think CNN figured it out?

    Are large national law firm's partners as pozzed and lefty as the Bar Association's pronouncements and their pro bono activity suggest?

    Do you consider yourself unusual among large national law firm's partners, either politically or in being a dedicated forum poaster?

    Do you have any advice for Neff?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Almost Missouri

    , @Marty
    @Finnian Clonard

    The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon.

    This general effect once caused me some embarrassment. I worked with a lawyer whose biggest plaintiff verdict was sharply reduced on remittitur by a trial judge named J.O. McGraw. For a year or more, I’d hear stories of “g.d. Joe McGraw,” or “that flippin’ Joe McGraw.” It got into my head such that I completely forgot about the initials. That judge eventually became an appellate justice, then retired and hired out as an expert witness. Soon after, in a malpractice case I was handling, the defense hired McGraw as its expert on damages, and I deposed him. To start the afternoon session I said, “we’re back on the record with Joe McGraw ...”, and he exploded. “My name is not Joe! It’s J.O. McGraw!” Then he reported me to the Bar.

  243. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    H: Because you can’t teach judgement. It’s a quality that seems connected to IQ, but IQ doesn’t seem determine it.
     
    Where specifically does “judgment” enter in during surgery?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Where specifically does “judgment” enter in during surgery?

    Have you ever driven a car, and another driver does something dramatic and unexpected, requiring you to make a quick decision to keep you from killing people, yourself, or crashing your car?

    Did you make a decision? Was it the right one? If so, congratulations. You exhibited “good judgment.”

    Now present the same scenario to your wife. Would she do the same thing, or run your Kia up a tree? Your answer will reflect your opinion of her “judgment.”

    Now, transfer that sensibility to a surgeon who’s patient has gone into what appears to be spontaneous cardiac arrest while on the operating table. You must make a quick decision to avoid the patient’s early demise. Do you make a decision? Will it be the right one?

    Hope this helps.

  244. @Ron Unz
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”
     
    Well, if that's the case, I'm not sure this would even be called a "doxxing." If you tell a bunch of your friends who you are and they spread it around on your forum, someone hostile merely needs to go through your archives to *prove* your identity, which is a very different task than somehow figuring it out in the first place.

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo
     
    Well, maybe. I just glanced at a couple of threads and it mostly seemed crude humor and insults, really low-quality stuff. Perhaps you could provide links to a couple of their most impressive discussions.

    Replies: @Boomer Lives Matter, @Corvinus, @JackOH

    yeah, i think that Neff has some personal issues, if you ask me…a nice guy, really smart and educated, but he has some issues…he did basically dox himself..

    as to whether xo/autoadmit is a high-IQ discussion forum, I would say that yes, that is the case, although, on a cursory scan of xo, there would appear to be many threads relating to crude humor, etc…but i would definitely say that i have never come across a more educated or higher-IQ group of posters on any forum anywhere…but to see that sort of quality, you would have to dig into some of the threads…in many ways the high quality of the content there is expressed via clever and original use of language…

    most of the poasters there (including myself) voted for obama…then things in america started to change…then we voted for trump…now many of us have abandoned trump (although many others have stuck with him)…tucker carlson is now all the rage there…and here…

    so that forum is somewhat representative of how white political trends are evolving…

  245. @Anonymous
    @J1234


    Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?
     
    It seems to me that this Neff fellow should be able to say whatever he pleases in his spare time. Is this not so?

    I am intrigued by the (apparently now widely accepted) idea that what you do in your spare time reflects on your employer. Well, isn't your spare time just that, yours?

    When did it become acceptable for employers to expect their employees to toe the line, not just whilst on the job, but wherever they went, and at any time of day? How is that any different from the slavery the left so widely decries?

    It seems to me that the American political right is focussed on quite the wrong things. Rather than attempting to defend what this Neff fellow said in his spare time, wouldn't the right stand a better chance of prevailing if they couched the matter in terms of, "What Neff said in his spare time has nothing to do with the Tucker Carlson show and is no one's business but his own"?

    Isn't it high time that the American political right flung the left's utter lack of decency back in their teeth? Leftists can burn, loot, and destroy with impunity, but this chap makes a few innocuous remarks on a message board and that's it, his life is over? Really?

    Writers or no, if Tucker Carlson can't turn this around and reveal these cretinous, obnoxious busybodies for who they really are, he isn't half the man the Americans have made him out to be.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @3g4me, @J1234

    @163 Anon387: That’s because about 99% of Sailer’s posters unquestioningly accept the left’s moral framing. Oh, they claim to be edgy and accept HBD, but they don’t really. They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others. And as morally superior intellectuals, they’ll insist that character comes first, even though it’s downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate ‘opposition.’ Everything proceeds from there.

    And Tucker will cuck. Count on it. And everyone here will justify his and their surrender, because people always justify their moral compromises out of self interest. Always.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @3g4me


    ...but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others.
     
    Which is often true.
    , @Dissident
    @3g4me


    And as morally superior intellectuals, they’ll insist that character comes first, even though it’s downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.
     
    Do you deny that one can find (at least some number of) people of good character as well as people of bad character within all genetic groupings? Do you deny that there are individuals of fine character who were born to parents of poor character? Do you not acknowledge a distinction between such traits as moral character, temperament, and affability, on the one hand, and intelligence, cognitive ability, talent, skills, on the other? If you do acknowledge such a distinction, then would you not also acknowledge that at least with regard to the former category, an individual can transcend whatever genetic predispositions he may have inherited? Do individuals not have moral agency? Do individuals not continually make conscious choices that have moral consequences and repercussions?

    They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others.
     
    Is it your position, then, that individuals of certain races should never fraternize or align themselves with individuals of certain other races? Is it your position that the typical white, non-Jewish iSteve reader/poster should avoid forming any personal relationship with any black or Jew, or perhaps with any non-white?

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate ‘opposition.’
     
    Is the difference between equality of outcome (not only impossible to achieve but detrimental to attempt to) and equality of opportunity (generally a noble and constructive ideal to strive toward) not germane, even critical here?

    Replies: @3g4me

  246. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Do you not have any constructive advice to Neff or Carlson as to how to address this situation?

    My compassion goes out to Neff. When all guns are focused on you, everything gets very foggy.

    As an onlooker, it’s easy to say, “fire him,” while forgetting there’s an actual human being in the middle of it.

    But let’s say it was actually my job to fashion a strategy for Neff staying on…

    He’d have to issue an “on your knees” apology, straight up. Carlson should maintain his position in this as a compassionate, but disappointed onlooker, as I’m sure he is, except to read the apology for him. Carlson should also announce Neff is being replaced as his… whatever his moniker is… and getting “time off to reflect” on his behavior. Let the news cycle wash do the rest.

    That’s all you can do. If Neff stays on, he has to eat his humble pie. No way around that.

    Don’t be a victim. Eat your crap. Everyone has to once in a while. Just close your eyes, think of a Costco hot dog, and eat it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    But let’s say it was actually my job to fashion a strategy for Neff staying on…

    He’d have to issue an “on your knees” apology, straight up.
     
    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  247. @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    We would be idiots to reject anyone on such grounds.

    Hello right back at ya, Fellow Concerned White!

  248. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    I happen to like tramp stamps.

  249. anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow
    @anonymous

    “We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features — estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.”

    Wouldn’t it foil the algorithm (and human) if one were to periodically include false information, false clues?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Known Fact

    It’s likely a small change to the Unz.com codebase to add a date filter to comment histories for non-Unz accounts. Probably less than a few hours of work.

    Expecting users to periodically sprinkle false information into their comments is asking a lot.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @anonymous

    Eh, I’ve been doing that all along. I’m 95 percent honest but I cloak certain (either downplaying or embellishing experiences, slightly changing locations) things so I can’t be doxxed.

  250. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”

    If I were Carlson, I would have fired him just for using me, paying his salary, as his personal mouthpiece making in-jokes for the benefit of his personal fans. Neff obviously wanted to be an Autoadmit celebrity…and now he is. According to reports, he even posted photos in which his face could be seen in a glass-cabinet reflection. How exactly was he “doxxed”? He may have a 140 IQ but you have to be dense as a billiard ball–or have an ego the size of Neff’s–to think that you can get away for long with cute shennanigans that put your boss into a unfavorable light.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Charlotte Allen

    Agree. Well said.

  251. @JimDandy
    @ATBOTL

    At Fox, he could do what you're suggesting for approximately one show, and it would never air. But who knows, maybe after he does eventually get fired from Fox, he will go rogue and create an indie platform and get more candid on those issues and others.

    Probably not, though. The lack of true freedom of speech in America is very depressing. There are different levels of hell, though, and I'm very glad that Hillary Clinton is not our president, and I'm also glad that the worst of the worst Zionist Neocons--from Max Boot to Jennifer Rubin to Bill Kristol--are still crying themselves to sleep over Trump's win. (And no, that's not an act to bamboozle the goyim.) Also, I really, really don't want Biden to win the election. I won't argue with you if you tell me that Trump is a terrible president, but relative to Biden? Or anyone else who had an actual chance to win?

    BTW, what does this mean?

    "Point out that white Americans are supporting the same people who raped their kids to ethnically cleanse an indigenous people. "

    Replies: @Clyde, @128

    Trump and his 500000 H-1bs a year, and a million “skilled” and “unskilled” immigrants, if he get what he wants? How many Confederate monuments are still standing, what he has done to preserve them? What has he done that is useful except billions per year for Israel?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @128

    Andrew Jackson is still standing. And we haven't gotten involved in any additional hot wars since he took office. The kangaroo court system that was waging war on men on college campuses has been reversed. I could go on. My point isn't that Trump is a perfect president, but that it's all relative. Is your point that it makes absolutely no difference whether or not it's him or Biden sitting in the Oval Office? If so, I disagree.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  252. @Charlotte Allen
    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”

    If I were Carlson, I would have fired him just for using me, paying his salary, as his personal mouthpiece making in-jokes for the benefit of his personal fans. Neff obviously wanted to be an Autoadmit celebrity...and now he is. According to reports, he even posted photos in which his face could be seen in a glass-cabinet reflection. How exactly was he "doxxed"? He may have a 140 IQ but you have to be dense as a billiard ball--or have an ego the size of Neff's--to think that you can get away for long with cute shennanigans that put your boss into a unfavorable light.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Agree. Well said.

  253. @ATBOTL
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Tucker wrote a hit piece against Pat Buchanan for Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard. I read it at the time, probably around 1995 or 1996. He supported the Iraq war until public opinion turned against it. Case closed. He's a huckster whose job it is to keep whites on the GOP plantation. Keep falling for this act if you want to be agonizing over voting for Nikki Haley in 2024 because "we have to keep out the DemonRAT." Tucker will be there to remind you that Nikki isn't perfect, but "America won't survive if we don't elect her."

    Give support to openly pro-white voices only.

    Replies: @milchharvey

    You are absolutely right. Leave the GOP plantation for the white male hating Democratic Party slave dens. Why didn’t I see that? You are so smart.

    Fuck the Democratic Party ant-white racists and fuck those that support them.

  254. @Almost Missouri
    @The Alarmist

    How would "they have access to your IP records" unless they have access to Unz's servers?

    Replies: @International Jew, @U. Ranus

    By tapping into any one of the servers (typically a dozen or two) that relay your computer’s request to unz.com, and unz.com‘s response (ie packets containing 1500-byte pieces of posts here) back to your computer. Every packet contains, along with unz.com content, a packet header with source and destination information.

    Tor protects you by relaying your requests through intermediary servers that strip your information from the header (while of course caching it so they know what to do with the response from unz.com).

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @International Jew

    Well, yes okay, anyone in the middle can read packet headers and know that traffic is travelling from your ISP to a web forum like Unz or AutoAdmit. But...

    1) Most websites use https, so the contents of the packet are encrypted. So the middle-reader only knows traffic volume, not contents. Maybe an end-user is loading a lot of pages, or searching the site. The snoop can necessarily "see" a web post, only that traffic exists. Maybe with some familiarity with a website's code, the middle-reader could discern that some packets contain posting content, and maybe by elaborate reconciliation of the posting times get an idea of which comments came from which ISPs. Maybe. But...

    2) The packet headers lead back to the ISP, but not the individual end-user at the ISP. If this is wrong, please correct me. Now many ISPs will sell some information about their customers. So maybe with some time, expense and labor, purchased ISP data could be used to dox an end-user, but the middle reader would really have to want to get the target pretty badly (admittedly plausible for CNN vs. Tucker). But...

    3) If you are using a good VPN, the trail goes cold at the ISP. Maybe a very high-end investigator could get around it. The NSA probably can. But 99% of everyone else is done there.

    tl;dr: I don't think they have access to "your IP records", only to intermediate IP records of traffic to and from.

  255. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Anybody have any advice for “America’s Got Talent” host Nick Canton on how to keep his job?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    ESPN says De Sean Jackson plans to visit Auschwitz.

    , @Barnard
    @Anonymous

    I thought when the DeSean Jackson story broke a neocon Jew should spend some time publicizing all the conspiracies that black entertainers and athletes believe. Maybe they will trickle out like this.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Zionist supremacist hate speech that calls for Wars for Israel and tyranny over Palestinians have no place in our society. It is abhorrent and unacceptable as to who we are.

  256. @Ron Unz
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”
     
    Well, if that's the case, I'm not sure this would even be called a "doxxing." If you tell a bunch of your friends who you are and they spread it around on your forum, someone hostile merely needs to go through your archives to *prove* your identity, which is a very different task than somehow figuring it out in the first place.

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo
     
    Well, maybe. I just glanced at a couple of threads and it mostly seemed crude humor and insults, really low-quality stuff. Perhaps you could provide links to a couple of their most impressive discussions.

    Replies: @Boomer Lives Matter, @Corvinus, @JackOH

    “Well, if that’s the case, I’m not sure this would even be called a “doxxing.””

    Exactly. But Mr. Sailer is in the midst of raising funds to remodel his closet, so what better way than to sensationalize this story with a false equivalence to get his audience to put more coin in his coffers.

    The fact of the matter is that this writer wanted to make it known that he had clout and influence. Perhaps he as a “gamma male” (Vox Day reference to the social-sexual hierarchy) was tired of being the “brains” of Tucker’s operation.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8512129/Tucker-Carlsons-writer-resigns-secretly-posting-racist-sexist-remarks-online-forum.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    The fact of the matter is that this writer wanted to make it known that he had clout and influence. Perhaps he as a “gamma male” (Vox Day reference to the social-sexual hierarchy) was tired of being the “brains” of Tucker’s operation.
     
    You needn't worry about anything similar happening to you. Nobody will ever call you the brains of anything, dips**t.
  257. @Ben tillman
    @Thoughts

    What in the world?

    Replies: @Thoughts

    It really did make sense

    If Jake Neff had a twitter page. He should delete everything and leave one of those up and let that be it.

    If Tucker was cancelled the same on twitter.

    The final suggestion was for the show. Just say, ‘He’s pursuing other interests’ and then put a photo up of him and his wife/fiance/gf whatnot.

    It’s time the Right start ignoring all these accusations of racism and reply with something complete off the wall, ideally something that shows ‘And yet…I’m still getting laid’

    That will never happen because Tucker isn’t on our side. But if he was…

    You know what would be fun, a corny memorial Goodbye thing slideshow…photos of Neff and Carlson set to music…

    Just make the whole thing a joke

    The weirder the better, because everyone stops and ‘resets’ emotionally when they see weird, and if you can make them laugh extra credit

  258. @Blackpilled American
    Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and most of the the mainstream conservatives are Race Realists at heart.
    They just cannot speak the truth in the public.
    Ann Coulter recently joked that she has asked her realtor to find a home in a very "Diverse" neighborhood and along that tweet was a story of a Black man killing some old white guy.

    As far as Leftist women are concerned.
    There's an old saying that when any society's women start to act like the most uncouth and vilest of men, then all hope is lost for that society.

    Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable. They are seen by men throughout the world as nothing more than dim-witted whores who deserve the degrading treatment they receive at the hands of sweaty Dindus.

    Replies: @gate666, @Jesse, @JohnPlywood, @Not Only Wrathful, @3g4me, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Fidelios Automata, @Corvinus

    “Tragically, hordes of modern white women have lost all of their feminine graces, have disfigured themselves with tramp-stamps, and have become so loud-mouthed and brutish that they are intolerable.”

    Are you Whiskey’s illegitimate child?

  259. @Anonymous
    Anybody have any advice for "America's Got Talent" host Nick Canton on how to keep his job?

    https://twitter.com/AJCGlobal/status/1282687354843602944?s=20

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Barnard, @Anonymous

    ESPN says De Sean Jackson plans to visit Auschwitz.

    • LOL: black sea
  260. @Ron Unz
    @Boomer Lives Matter


    Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson’s scripts several references to some well known autoadmit “inside jokes.”
     
    Well, if that's the case, I'm not sure this would even be called a "doxxing." If you tell a bunch of your friends who you are and they spread it around on your forum, someone hostile merely needs to go through your archives to *prove* your identity, which is a very different task than somehow figuring it out in the first place.

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. …isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo
     
    Well, maybe. I just glanced at a couple of threads and it mostly seemed crude humor and insults, really low-quality stuff. Perhaps you could provide links to a couple of their most impressive discussions.

    Replies: @Boomer Lives Matter, @Corvinus, @JackOH

    Ron, FWIW, plenty of people in my area know my screen name and that I offer occasional comments here. Judgment call. I’ve “sold” UR, told people it was a valuable resource, and believed I could “sell” more by saying I wasn’t just a reader, but an occasional commenter. The robustness of opinion here, catholicity of viewpoints, sheer erudition, sincerity of purpose, genuine persuasiveness, and much more all make UR very difficult for anti-free speech haters to get their arms around this Webzine. Maybe I pre-doxed myself.

    I’m also not in reputation-sensitive employment, such as law, politics, the academy, or journalism. My opinions as locally published don’t rely at all on piggybacking atop employment or other “positional” advantage.

    Long story short. Fear of doxing seems real to me for folks in reputation-sensitive employment. I’m sorry this Neff fellow lost his job on pretty flimsy grounds. But, shouldn’t someone at Fox have counseled Neff that the Tucker Carlson name is at the top of the bill? That he shouldn’t do anything that could undermine the top of the card?

  261. @SafeNow
    @anonymous

    “We're approaching a point where algorithms can chew through a corpus of text and reliably extract key features — estimated age, geography, specific cultural references, etc. Anyone who posts for years under the same account is asking for trouble.”

    Wouldn’t it foil the algorithm (and human) if one were to periodically include false information, false clues?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Known Fact

    Good idea. OK, I dated all four of the gals from Vixen

    • LOL: SafeNow
  262. @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    On Monday night it will prove interesting if Tucker throws Neff under the bus. Tucker’s behavior should prove if he’s just another flash in the pan.
     
    Carlson "throwing him under the bus" is an egregiously invalid characterization.

    Neff took an extended "flyer" by posting to an outlier group–that is, outliers in the general public discourse–and got nailed by his passionate, some say crazy, opposition. So now his boss has been dragged into it, which hampers his bosses ability to communicate, which is what Carlson is paid to do.

    When you have more of a voice, you are saddled with more responsibility. Carlson didn’t ask Neff to post in that forum. Neff chose to. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    CNN's game is easy to identify: deconstruct satirical comments as literal, and mischaracterize a man's "shorthand" flip remarks as the doors into that man's heart–unless it’s one of them.

    Neff made himself vulnerable to that game, and by doing so, brought his boss into it.

    I’ve worked for many corporations. If I brought my boss unwillingly into a public shitstorm, simply because of my ego, I would expect to be fired. The specifics of the elements that produced the outcome are irrelevant. Neff could have posted "there is no god," and if he was found out, Carlson would be right to let him go. It would be too polarizing a claim, going outside the general preview of Carlson's show, whether Carlson agreed or not.

    Neff was fucking around. His job is connected to his boss. He brought his boss into it... and that’s that.

    I believe if I had Neff's plumb job, I’d NEVER post on ANY outlier site, anonymously or not. It’s just good corporate hygiene. And for fuck's sake! He was getting paid VERY well NOT to! That responsibility is a part of his pay scale.

    Professionally, Neff was a slob. He inadvertently brought his stink to work with him. Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it. Has nothing to do with Fox in general, or Carlson's personal inclinations in particular. More to do with Neff's ego.

    It’s ironic, but typical that the ego required for Neff to earn his professional position is the same ego that wound up cutting him off at the knees.

    Neff's antagonist to overcome isn’t Fox, or even CNN.

    It’s him. His existential battle is with himself.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @V. K. Ovelund

    Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it.

    As recently as 20 years ago, the typical American employer would probably have ignored what Neff did on his personal time, regardless of the name Neff had used when he did it.

    All of us cannot flee forever. Prudence is wanted but there are limits to cowardice.

    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @V. K. Ovelund


    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.
     
    What would you hope that he say?

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

  263. @Corvinus
    @Ron Unz

    "Well, if that’s the case, I’m not sure this would even be called a “doxxing.”"

    Exactly. But Mr. Sailer is in the midst of raising funds to remodel his closet, so what better way than to sensationalize this story with a false equivalence to get his audience to put more coin in his coffers.

    The fact of the matter is that this writer wanted to make it known that he had clout and influence. Perhaps he as a "gamma male" (Vox Day reference to the social-sexual hierarchy) was tired of being the "brains" of Tucker's operation.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8512129/Tucker-Carlsons-writer-resigns-secretly-posting-racist-sexist-remarks-online-forum.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The fact of the matter is that this writer wanted to make it known that he had clout and influence. Perhaps he as a “gamma male” (Vox Day reference to the social-sexual hierarchy) was tired of being the “brains” of Tucker’s operation.

    You needn’t worry about anything similar happening to you. Nobody will ever call you the brains of anything, dips**t.

  264. @International Jew
    @Almost Missouri

    By tapping into any one of the servers (typically a dozen or two) that relay your computer's request to unz.com, and unz.com's response (ie packets containing 1500-byte pieces of posts here) back to your computer. Every packet contains, along with unz.com content, a packet header with source and destination information.

    Tor protects you by relaying your requests through intermediary servers that strip your information from the header (while of course caching it so they know what to do with the response from unz.com).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Well, yes okay, anyone in the middle can read packet headers and know that traffic is travelling from your ISP to a web forum like Unz or AutoAdmit. But…

    1) Most websites use https, so the contents of the packet are encrypted. So the middle-reader only knows traffic volume, not contents. Maybe an end-user is loading a lot of pages, or searching the site. The snoop can necessarily “see” a web post, only that traffic exists. Maybe with some familiarity with a website’s code, the middle-reader could discern that some packets contain posting content, and maybe by elaborate reconciliation of the posting times get an idea of which comments came from which ISPs. Maybe. But…

    2) The packet headers lead back to the ISP, but not the individual end-user at the ISP. If this is wrong, please correct me. Now many ISPs will sell some information about their customers. So maybe with some time, expense and labor, purchased ISP data could be used to dox an end-user, but the middle reader would really have to want to get the target pretty badly (admittedly plausible for CNN vs. Tucker). But…

    3) If you are using a good VPN, the trail goes cold at the ISP. Maybe a very high-end investigator could get around it. The NSA probably can. But 99% of everyone else is done there.

    tl;dr: I don’t think they have access to “your IP records”, only to intermediate IP records of traffic to and from.

  265. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Finnian Clonard
    I'm a partner at a large national law firm and have been a regular poster on AutoAdmit (and it's predecessor site) since the early 2000s. I have been posting with CharlesXII since whenever he started posting on AutoAdmit -- probably around 7 years ago. I am very familiar with the site, with CharlesXII as a poster, and with all the relevant background information on this matter:

    A few important things to clarify:

    1) There is no indication whatsoever that CharlesXII intentionally dropped "easter eggs" -- either in the WaPo DateLab piece or in any of his writing for Tucker. People on the board like to assume he did, but this is just because it makes them feel more connected to the story and that the board is more important than it is. Whoever was researching the story assumed that if people on the board believed this was the case, it must be the case. (It doesn't help that it fits their narrative.) For example, Charles said "alcohol is poison" on his DateLab date and this was taken as an "easter egg." This is a common saying on the board. I use this saying all the time -- at least monthly -- in my real life. When i do this, I'm not dropping "easter eggs" to the people in my life. The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon. The same goes for any similarity between what he said on the board and what made it into Tucker's monologues.

    2) CharlesXII has never admitted to being Neff and has only ever denied it to the extent that he made any comments on the question at all. Further, he has never done anything to intentionally "out" or "doxx" himself. My point is not that Neff is not actually Charles XII, but that his "outting" or "doxxing" was neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence. (I would say it meets a negligence standard though.) Was he dumb for not changing accounts or stopping posting altogether after people on the board figured out who he was? Yes. But he absolutely did not intentionally out himself.

    3) CharlesXII was literally the most non-controversial and benign person posting on the board. He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race. He was known as being a rather traditional Catholic conservative who did not really buy into the more outside-the-box political / societal ideologies floating around on the forum.

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor. Any claim that the board is some kind of White-Supremacist forum is specious.

    5) "AZN" is common internet shorthand for "Asian" and is in no was a slur or derogatory.

    I could go on for hours, but I'm rather busy. I will try to make myself available to answer anyone's questions on this topic for the remainder of the day.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Marty

    What do you think Tucker should say on the matter?

    I wonder if a few contextual comments such as these could be instructive:

    He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race.

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor.

    5) “AZN” is common internet shorthand for “Asian” and is in no was a slur or derogatory.

    In addition, Tucker should point out what is—in contrast—the sincere and malicious anti-White vitriol in the mainstream press, both in its reporting and in the comments on social media by its employees.

    What is the path forward for Neff that would allow him to continue to be an incredibly valuable truth teller and political participant?

  266. @Finnian Clonard
    I'm a partner at a large national law firm and have been a regular poster on AutoAdmit (and it's predecessor site) since the early 2000s. I have been posting with CharlesXII since whenever he started posting on AutoAdmit -- probably around 7 years ago. I am very familiar with the site, with CharlesXII as a poster, and with all the relevant background information on this matter:

    A few important things to clarify:

    1) There is no indication whatsoever that CharlesXII intentionally dropped "easter eggs" -- either in the WaPo DateLab piece or in any of his writing for Tucker. People on the board like to assume he did, but this is just because it makes them feel more connected to the story and that the board is more important than it is. Whoever was researching the story assumed that if people on the board believed this was the case, it must be the case. (It doesn't help that it fits their narrative.) For example, Charles said "alcohol is poison" on his DateLab date and this was taken as an "easter egg." This is a common saying on the board. I use this saying all the time -- at least monthly -- in my real life. When i do this, I'm not dropping "easter eggs" to the people in my life. The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon. The same goes for any similarity between what he said on the board and what made it into Tucker's monologues.

    2) CharlesXII has never admitted to being Neff and has only ever denied it to the extent that he made any comments on the question at all. Further, he has never done anything to intentionally "out" or "doxx" himself. My point is not that Neff is not actually Charles XII, but that his "outting" or "doxxing" was neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence. (I would say it meets a negligence standard though.) Was he dumb for not changing accounts or stopping posting altogether after people on the board figured out who he was? Yes. But he absolutely did not intentionally out himself.

    3) CharlesXII was literally the most non-controversial and benign person posting on the board. He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race. He was known as being a rather traditional Catholic conservative who did not really buy into the more outside-the-box political / societal ideologies floating around on the forum.

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor. Any claim that the board is some kind of White-Supremacist forum is specious.

    5) "AZN" is common internet shorthand for "Asian" and is in no was a slur or derogatory.

    I could go on for hours, but I'm rather busy. I will try to make myself available to answer anyone's questions on this topic for the remainder of the day.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Marty

    Questions, if you don’t mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?

    Whether or not you did know, if Neff’s doxxing was “neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence,” how do you think CNN figured it out?

    Are large national law firm’s partners as pozzed and lefty as the Bar Association’s pronouncements and their pro bono activity suggest?

    Do you consider yourself unusual among large national law firm’s partners, either politically or in being a dedicated forum poaster?

    Do you have any advice for Neff?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri


    Questions, if you don’t mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?
     
    Neff has not said that he is Charles.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    Note to readers:

    Finnian Clonardwrote a thoughtful reply to these questions below, but it didn't show up as a "reply" here.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-was-right-to-fear-doxing-after-all-cnn-doxes-a-tucker-carlson-writer/#comment-4032071

  267. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Do you not have any constructive advice to Neff or Carlson as to how to address this situation?
     
    My compassion goes out to Neff. When all guns are focused on you, everything gets very foggy.

    As an onlooker, it's easy to say, "fire him," while forgetting there's an actual human being in the middle of it.

    But let's say it was actually my job to fashion a strategy for Neff staying on...

    He'd have to issue an "on your knees" apology, straight up. Carlson should maintain his position in this as a compassionate, but disappointed onlooker, as I'm sure he is, except to read the apology for him. Carlson should also announce Neff is being replaced as his... whatever his moniker is... and getting "time off to reflect" on his behavior. Let the news cycle wash do the rest.

    That's all you can do. If Neff stays on, he has to eat his humble pie. No way around that.

    Don't be a victim. Eat your crap. Everyone has to once in a while. Just close your eyes, think of a Costco hot dog, and eat it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    But let’s say it was actually my job to fashion a strategy for Neff staying on…

    He’d have to issue an “on your knees” apology, straight up.

    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.
     
    I don’t know their relationship, so I assumed it was standard boss/employee. If he and Neff are tight, I’d agree Tucker skipping the pageant show, and letting the news cycle wash it out was the best play, since it manifests zero agency to cnn in the matter, and everyone has learned a little lesson before we head into President Trump's successful re-election. Inspired strategy played tonight. Tucker’s vacation announcement was hilarious.

    Wishing that Neff fellow well, and as for Tucker, he’s been doing a man's job, is certainly a good friend, and deserves the time off to catch a lot of trout.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  268. @Finnian Clonard
    I'm a partner at a large national law firm and have been a regular poster on AutoAdmit (and it's predecessor site) since the early 2000s. I have been posting with CharlesXII since whenever he started posting on AutoAdmit -- probably around 7 years ago. I am very familiar with the site, with CharlesXII as a poster, and with all the relevant background information on this matter:

    A few important things to clarify:

    1) There is no indication whatsoever that CharlesXII intentionally dropped "easter eggs" -- either in the WaPo DateLab piece or in any of his writing for Tucker. People on the board like to assume he did, but this is just because it makes them feel more connected to the story and that the board is more important than it is. Whoever was researching the story assumed that if people on the board believed this was the case, it must be the case. (It doesn't help that it fits their narrative.) For example, Charles said "alcohol is poison" on his DateLab date and this was taken as an "easter egg." This is a common saying on the board. I use this saying all the time -- at least monthly -- in my real life. When i do this, I'm not dropping "easter eggs" to the people in my life. The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon. The same goes for any similarity between what he said on the board and what made it into Tucker's monologues.

    2) CharlesXII has never admitted to being Neff and has only ever denied it to the extent that he made any comments on the question at all. Further, he has never done anything to intentionally "out" or "doxx" himself. My point is not that Neff is not actually Charles XII, but that his "outting" or "doxxing" was neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence. (I would say it meets a negligence standard though.) Was he dumb for not changing accounts or stopping posting altogether after people on the board figured out who he was? Yes. But he absolutely did not intentionally out himself.

    3) CharlesXII was literally the most non-controversial and benign person posting on the board. He avoided all controversy and was well regarded as one of the (if not the) smartest poster on a board filled with many very smart and successful people. This is self-evident from the fact that of all of his posts they combed, the only controversial things they found were him making a few bad jokes that were somehow connected to race. He was known as being a rather traditional Catholic conservative who did not really buy into the more outside-the-box political / societal ideologies floating around on the forum.

    4) The board is overwhelmingly Non-White and Jewish and the vast majority of the shocking things posted on the board are done for the sake of humor. Any claim that the board is some kind of White-Supremacist forum is specious.

    5) "AZN" is common internet shorthand for "Asian" and is in no was a slur or derogatory.

    I could go on for hours, but I'm rather busy. I will try to make myself available to answer anyone's questions on this topic for the remainder of the day.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Marty

    The reality is that when you post regularly on a forum, the lingo you use in that forum will make its way into your general lexicon.

    This general effect once caused me some embarrassment. I worked with a lawyer whose biggest plaintiff verdict was sharply reduced on remittitur by a trial judge named J.O. McGraw. For a year or more, I’d hear stories of “g.d. Joe McGraw,” or “that flippin’ Joe McGraw.” It got into my head such that I completely forgot about the initials. That judge eventually became an appellate justice, then retired and hired out as an expert witness. Soon after, in a malpractice case I was handling, the defense hired McGraw as its expert on damages, and I deposed him. To start the afternoon session I said, “we’re back on the record with Joe McGraw …”, and he exploded. “My name is not Joe! It’s J.O. McGraw!” Then he reported me to the Bar.

  269. @scrivener3
    @Chrisnonymous

    I am sorry I do not know the facts of vdare domain name crises. When I type in vdare.com I seem to get the page I always got. There are many social media sites that disappeared without a word of public notice, discussion or forwarding information. They are still gone with their publishers having little chance of recovering their audience.

    As I said verisign might unperson you (if you are a com) but you have legal recourse. If wordpress does not want you on their platform you are finished. If Vdare.com registered vdare.ru (the russian top level domain) and pointed both names to the same site and told all their users if they have trouble getting to vdare.com go to our backup site vdare.ru, well then they would have been online while all the legalities of verisign and vdare.com were sorted out.

    Replies: @Pericles

    You can also move your .com domain to another registrar. But in some cases there seems to be a bit of collusion going on between registrars, as one might expect in these degenerate and unprincipled times.

    In the case of the Daily Stormer, it seems Google just locked the domain name and pointed it to nowhere, which I don’t think is really legal when done out of the blue by one of the vaunted private companies. Then a global circus of registrar collusion followed so they couldn’t register in any other top level domain either.

    In conclusion, the domain name system is pozzed.

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @Pericles

    Register in a foreign jurisdiction before you are unpersoned here. Register vdare.ru (russia) before google or someone points vdare.com into the ether. vdare.ru will keep working - the only issue is publicity to your users. Users must know your backup site before you are unpersoned. Once unpersoned you cannot talk to them using the old channel.

    There are something like 10,000 top level domains in hundreds of legal jurisdictions. I have trouble imagining collusion among them all.

    Register in cuba (.CU) and the people's republic of China (.CN). and Iran (.IR) I 'm sure they will not take you out of their root nameservers when the SJW's tweet them. Heck, even France (.FR) would take pleasure in ignoring a US government request to remove a domain name from .FR

    , @scrivener3
    @Pericles

    Google is a private company but the Google domain name registry is authorized by ICANN to register domain names and subject to lengthy legal contracts/ From the ICANN.org web page


    :ICANN has a proven commitment to accountability and transparency in all of its practices. ICANN considers these principles to be fundamental safeguards in ensuring that its bottom-up, multi-stakeholder model remains effective. The mechanisms through which ICANN achieves accountability and transparency are built into every level of its organization and mandate – beginning with its Bylaws, detailed in its Accountability and Transparency Frameworks and Principles (adopted by ICANN's Board in 2008) and annually reinforced in its Strategic and Operational Plan. In order to reinforce its transparency and accountability, ICANN has established accountability mechanisms for review of ICANN actions. While the full texts of the accountability mechanisms are set forth in Articles IV and V of the ICANN Bylaws, the following is summary and illustrative overview of these mechanisms
     
    If you do not think a good lawyer can tie them up for years just holding them to their own stated policies . .
  270. @Anonymous
    Anybody have any advice for "America's Got Talent" host Nick Canton on how to keep his job?

    https://twitter.com/AJCGlobal/status/1282687354843602944?s=20

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Barnard, @Anonymous

    I thought when the DeSean Jackson story broke a neocon Jew should spend some time publicizing all the conspiracies that black entertainers and athletes believe. Maybe they will trickle out like this.

  271. —-Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?—-

    I knew people said he was a writer for Tucker and I knew all the evidence they had for this, but I did not think it was actually true. In fact some of the stuff CharlesXII posted contradicted this. I thought he lived in an entirely different city and worked for some kind of policy organization (eg. a think tank).

    —-Whether or not you did know, if Neff’s doxxing was “neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence,” how do you think CNN figured it out?—-

    This is not known yet. Here’s a quick breakdown of what we do know.

    The writer of the article (Oliver Darcy) was presumably a poster or a lurker on the forum. Darcy posted on law school discussion forums previously and was not able to get into mediocre law schools because of poor test scores. (He’s not very bright.) In the days before the article came out, people were making posts about how a New York Times article on the forum was going to come out. These posts were in jest, but it seems that Darcy may have worried they were real and so needed to get this article out quickly to get the scoop. That last part if just speculation.

    It’s also very possible that one of the left wing posters (or lurkers) on the board sent a tip to Darcy. There are some very seriously mentally ill / personality disordered posters. There was a lot of controversy about the Duckworth matter. One left wing poster in particular was very very bothered by the Duckworth matter and made threats about it.

    This is being actively investigated and someone has put a $130,000 bounty on finding out who the tipper was. Anyone who could provide this information would also very likely also receive substantial donations from many other posters. I’d throw in at least a few thousand dollars.

    —-Are large national law firm’s partners as pozzed and lefty as the Bar Association’s pronouncements and their pro bono activity suggest?—-

    This is a complicated one. Publicly, you only hear very mainstream left-wing talking points from the partners at the large firms (and the firms themselves). Campaign contributions mirror this. However, when you actually talk one-on-one to people, it seems that people are much more right-wing. I cannot reconcile these two facts. It could just be biased sampling.

    —-Do you consider yourself unusual among large national law firm’s partners, either politically or in being a dedicated forum poaster?—-

    Politically, I’m more “based” as the kids would say, but I’m not generally out of line politically with mainstream “populist” right. I would say I’m unusual in posting on a forum for over a decade. That said, I would not necessarily call myself dedicated. It takes up very little of my time. There are a few “Of Counsel” lawyers at my firm who come off like the archetypal regular internet forum posters. But I can’t be certain.

    —-Do you have any advice for Neff?—-

    Depends on what his career goals are. If he wants to be famous, this opens that opportunity to him. He could make himself the next Bret Weinstein — in the sense that he could turn this current controversy into a successful career as a content creator, cultural commentator and author. Beyond that, my only advice would be for him to reach out to a poster in real life that he knows and who the board trusts; and have that poster post his Monero address. He could easily take in many thousands in crypto donations from posters.

  272. @Anonymous
    @J1234


    Nevertheless, Neff certainly hasn’t been living under a rock for the last 12 years, and must know how intolerant and influential his opponents are…and more importantly, how important Tucker’s mission is. How could he have risked that for a few moments of venting?
     
    It seems to me that this Neff fellow should be able to say whatever he pleases in his spare time. Is this not so?

    I am intrigued by the (apparently now widely accepted) idea that what you do in your spare time reflects on your employer. Well, isn't your spare time just that, yours?

    When did it become acceptable for employers to expect their employees to toe the line, not just whilst on the job, but wherever they went, and at any time of day? How is that any different from the slavery the left so widely decries?

    It seems to me that the American political right is focussed on quite the wrong things. Rather than attempting to defend what this Neff fellow said in his spare time, wouldn't the right stand a better chance of prevailing if they couched the matter in terms of, "What Neff said in his spare time has nothing to do with the Tucker Carlson show and is no one's business but his own"?

    Isn't it high time that the American political right flung the left's utter lack of decency back in their teeth? Leftists can burn, loot, and destroy with impunity, but this chap makes a few innocuous remarks on a message board and that's it, his life is over? Really?

    Writers or no, if Tucker Carlson can't turn this around and reveal these cretinous, obnoxious busybodies for who they really are, he isn't half the man the Americans have made him out to be.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @3g4me, @J1234

    Anyone can do what ever they want on their free time – from posting politically incorrect sentiments to appearing in porn films. And any employer can fire them for it. The reality is the news business is the image business, even when that image is severely tarnished by extreme left leaning bias throughout the industry (maybe especially so.) We all have to be realistic about what is and isn’t acceptable. To me, this guy didn’t do anything too terrible, but I’m not Fox.

  273. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Finnian Clonard

    Questions, if you don't mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?

    Whether or not you did know, if Neff's doxxing was "neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence," how do you think CNN figured it out?

    Are large national law firm's partners as pozzed and lefty as the Bar Association's pronouncements and their pro bono activity suggest?

    Do you consider yourself unusual among large national law firm's partners, either politically or in being a dedicated forum poaster?

    Do you have any advice for Neff?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Almost Missouri

    Questions, if you don’t mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?

    Neff has not said that he is Charles.

  274. @Pericles
    @scrivener3

    You can also move your .com domain to another registrar. But in some cases there seems to be a bit of collusion going on between registrars, as one might expect in these degenerate and unprincipled times.

    In the case of the Daily Stormer, it seems Google just locked the domain name and pointed it to nowhere, which I don't think is really legal when done out of the blue by one of the vaunted private companies. Then a global circus of registrar collusion followed so they couldn't register in any other top level domain either.

    In conclusion, the domain name system is pozzed.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @scrivener3

    Register in a foreign jurisdiction before you are unpersoned here. Register vdare.ru (russia) before google or someone points vdare.com into the ether. vdare.ru will keep working – the only issue is publicity to your users. Users must know your backup site before you are unpersoned. Once unpersoned you cannot talk to them using the old channel.

    There are something like 10,000 top level domains in hundreds of legal jurisdictions. I have trouble imagining collusion among them all.

    Register in cuba (.CU) and the people’s republic of China (.CN). and Iran (.IR) I ‘m sure they will not take you out of their root nameservers when the SJW’s tweet them. Heck, even France (.FR) would take pleasure in ignoring a US government request to remove a domain name from .FR

  275. @Pericles
    @scrivener3

    You can also move your .com domain to another registrar. But in some cases there seems to be a bit of collusion going on between registrars, as one might expect in these degenerate and unprincipled times.

    In the case of the Daily Stormer, it seems Google just locked the domain name and pointed it to nowhere, which I don't think is really legal when done out of the blue by one of the vaunted private companies. Then a global circus of registrar collusion followed so they couldn't register in any other top level domain either.

    In conclusion, the domain name system is pozzed.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @scrivener3

    Google is a private company but the Google domain name registry is authorized by ICANN to register domain names and subject to lengthy legal contracts/ From the ICANN.org web page

    :ICANN has a proven commitment to accountability and transparency in all of its practices. ICANN considers these principles to be fundamental safeguards in ensuring that its bottom-up, multi-stakeholder model remains effective. The mechanisms through which ICANN achieves accountability and transparency are built into every level of its organization and mandate – beginning with its Bylaws, detailed in its Accountability and Transparency Frameworks and Principles (adopted by ICANN’s Board in 2008) and annually reinforced in its Strategic and Operational Plan. In order to reinforce its transparency and accountability, ICANN has established accountability mechanisms for review of ICANN actions. While the full texts of the accountability mechanisms are set forth in Articles IV and V of the ICANN Bylaws, the following is summary and illustrative overview of these mechanisms

    If you do not think a good lawyer can tie them up for years just holding them to their own stated policies . .

  276. @Kratoklastes
    @bomag

    Huge difference: Yagoda (and Beria etc) were insiders who fell out of favour.

    So a modern parallel would be if the WokeBorg turned its lidded gaze on Sarah Jeong or the faggy cunt from Patreon.

    On the bright side: we're not far from that at this point.

    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they're not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don't like.

    There's such a thing as feminists and lesbians (and just ordinary-ass normal women) who have had a gutful of men in dresses shrieking louder than a hen's night group, too.

    Give it a little while longer and then they'll all be at each others' throats. In the meantime, some good stuff will happen - e.g., the dismantling of statues that glorify the losing side in the US Civil War.

    I have strong views on the outright wrongness of the Union side of that conflict, but the erection of those statues was outright political pandering to the losers, decades after the event.

    Imagine the US/Allied response if a German government announced it was going to put up statues of Rommel, Guderian or Skorzeny, along with a more general hagiography of the patriotic efforts of the Wehrmacht and the rehabilitation of the Kriegsfahne and swastika.

    Now imagine how a German Red Sea Pedestrian would feel about that: that'll give a sense of how US blacks feel (and felt) about 'commemoration' of the Confederacy.

    It's also weird as fuck that US soldiers don't feel weird about bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist 'foreign' military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again... would the US ever contemplate "Fort Rommel"? "Fort Zubaydah"?).

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

    “…bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist ‘foreign’ military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again… would the US ever contemplate “Fort Rommel”? “Fort Zubaydah”?).”

    I reported for duty at the end of November, 1989, at a base named after a War of 1812 Captain and Union Major General.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams_Dix

  277. Anonymous[556] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Anybody have any advice for "America's Got Talent" host Nick Canton on how to keep his job?

    https://twitter.com/AJCGlobal/status/1282687354843602944?s=20

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Barnard, @Anonymous

    Zionist supremacist hate speech that calls for Wars for Israel and tyranny over Palestinians have no place in our society. It is abhorrent and unacceptable as to who we are.

  278. @3g4me
    @Anonymous

    @163 Anon387: That's because about 99% of Sailer's posters unquestioningly accept the left's moral framing. Oh, they claim to be edgy and accept HBD, but they don't really. They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend 'x', who's not really like the others. And as morally superior intellectuals, they'll insist that character comes first, even though it's downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate 'opposition.' Everything proceeds from there.

    And Tucker will cuck. Count on it. And everyone here will justify his and their surrender, because people always justify their moral compromises out of self interest. Always.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

    …but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others.

    Which is often true.

  279. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    But let’s say it was actually my job to fashion a strategy for Neff staying on…

    He’d have to issue an “on your knees” apology, straight up.
     
    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.

    I don’t know their relationship, so I assumed it was standard boss/employee. If he and Neff are tight, I’d agree Tucker skipping the pageant show, and letting the news cycle wash it out was the best play, since it manifests zero agency to cnn in the matter, and everyone has learned a little lesson before we head into President Trump’s successful re-election. Inspired strategy played tonight. Tucker’s vacation announcement was hilarious.

    Wishing that Neff fellow well, and as for Tucker, he’s been doing a man’s job, is certainly a good friend, and deserves the time off to catch a lot of trout.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    Maybe Tucker thought "You know, I've been wanting to go fishing for a while now, and since the crap weasels at Fox HQ just threw my buddy under the bus without even offering him the chance to do an apology tour and tongue bathe Don Lemon's feet, maybe I'll just go fishing now, and let Fox find out just how many of my 4.3 million viewers they can keep with guest hosts." IOW, fu.

    I won't be watching unless Steyn is the host.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

  280. @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes, but you run down the list of (at least vaguely starboard) women in topical commentary, and you see this pattern. Laura Schlessinger (widowed, no children), Ann Coulter (childless spinster), Cathy Young (childless spinster), Laura Ingraham (spinster, children adopted from abroad), Monica Crowley (childless spinster), Mandy Nagy (divorced, no children, now retired due to a stroke), Megan McArdle (married, no children), Kathryn Jean Lopez (childless spinster); Helen Andrews, nee Rittlemeyer (married, no children).

    Michelle Malkin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck are married with children. Hasselbeck quit working about five years ago.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @Percy Gryce, @Almost Missouri, @Thomm

    Ann Coulter (childless spinster)

    And livin’ it up, she is.

    I wrote an entire song that describes the totality of her business model of bilking naive cucks and needy WN incels who think she is on their side any more than the bare minimum required to make money, from the perspective of her boyfriend, Jimmy Walker. At least her boyfriend is conservative.

    I present, the famous song, Ann-O-Mite :


  281. @Ozymandias
    @Ron Unz

    You couldn't be more wrong, Ron. There's already a scandal underway from an Unz doxxing. Some guy that Kris Kobach hired to file paperwork has been revealed to post at Unz.com. Kobach fired him, but a rival PAC is about to launch a multimillion dollar ad-blitz trying to smear Kobach as a racist who hires Unz posters.

    It's a comin'.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @MEH 0910

    It would help if Trump would turn loose Durham to start charging people for domestic spying. If it turns out to be 1/10th of what we suspect, it will put a very bitter taste in the public’s mouth for things like doxxing. This is particularly true if it leads to Obama. I might be paranoid but sometimes I think that part of what BLM is about is giving blacks moral and legal immunity so the former President and First Lady won’t get dragged through the mud wtshtf.

  282. @Boomer Lives Matter
    @Henry's Cat


    You expect Carlson – with the highest rated show in cable news’ history – to throw himself under the bus because Neff was careless enough to let his guard down? Neff is eminently replaceable – heck, there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy.
     
    I have been posting on autoadmit for more than 10 years now. Most regular readers there have known for a well over a year now that the poster CharlesXII was the top writer for Tucker Carlson. Neff/charles dropped lots of deliberate clues on the forum, and even worked into carlson's scripts several references to some well known autoadmit "inside jokes." He let his pride lead him into dangerous territory. After some time has passed, I believe that many autoadmit posters (and by the way, the site is generally known as 'xo') will come to admit that charles/neff's actions led to his own downfall. Pride goeth before a fall.

    As to your assertion that "Neff is eminently replaceable" and that "there must a dozen iSteve regulars who could churn out his type of copy," I strongly disagree. Neff has an IQ that I would estimate to be somewhere around 140, and he is extremely well-read. Those attributes are not common. And not common on isteve for sure...however, there are a number of xo/autoadmit regulars who could fill neff's shoes...and probably do an even better job...\

    i have posted on many dozens of web forums since 1995 (starting with usenet), and I have never seen a forum with as high an average IQ and level of education as autoadmit/xo. ...isteve is higher than most forums, but nowhere near xo...there is no poster here on isteve that i have ever read (and i have been reading sailer since he posted on blogspot) that could fill neff's shoes...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kyle, @Impolitic, @Ron Unz, @Anonymous, @Prof. Woland

    Maybe Neff can do what Dalton Trumbo did, ghost write for front men.

  283. @Hibernian
    @syonredux


    In addition,many companies want to see your picture on Linkedin before they will talk to you about a job.
     
    How do they deal with the EEOC on that one?

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    LinkedIn offers a work around the EEOC hasn’t figured out, yet.

  284. anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:

    Tucker showed tonight that he does not have the courage to stand up to the mob. He did not take a stand for his writer who Steve seems to imply is a huge part of Tucker’s current success.

  285. David French Retweeted:

  286. @Ozymandias
    @Ron Unz

    You couldn't be more wrong, Ron. There's already a scandal underway from an Unz doxxing. Some guy that Kris Kobach hired to file paperwork has been revealed to post at Unz.com. Kobach fired him, but a rival PAC is about to launch a multimillion dollar ad-blitz trying to smear Kobach as a racist who hires Unz posters.

    It's a comin'.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @MEH 0910

    • Thanks: Ozymandias
  287. Tucker did all right.

    It is dreadful for Neff, though, who had hardly done wrong.

    Note to reader: if you are an employer, do not do to your employees what Fox News did to Neff. It teaches your employees to lie and is bad for morale.

  288. @Steve Sailer
    @Boomer Lives Matter

    Neff and Scott Alexander might be the top two young public intellectuals to emerge in the last decade.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Dan Hayes, @IHTG

    You sound like you know him.

  289. @Almost Missouri
    @The Alarmist

    How would "they have access to your IP records" unless they have access to Unz's servers?

    Replies: @International Jew, @U. Ranus

    Unz serves tracking scripts by Facebook, Goolag, and others, and has been doing so since forever. If you have a Facebook account, they know everything about your unz.com activities across any number of different pseudonyms you may have ever used. Same story for Goolag.

    I don’t doubt for a second that various Alphabet Soup Entities have access to those data hoards as well, although that almost doesn’t matter as the major theme of what’s happening in the US is privatization of everything anyway.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @U. Ranus

    That's a good point. Commenters should use a separate browser for commenting, and not let it crossload bookmarks, cookies, etc. from other browsers at installation. Or better yet, use a separate computer with a VPN.

  290. @S. Anonyia
    @Thoughts

    The idea that only ugly people can be true conservatives is absurd. Ugly people want socialism of mates and always have their own agendas. You all seem to realize ugly women disproportionately hold silly grievances, why don’t you understand the same thing about ugly men? And what does being a Heartiste reader have to do with true-blue conservatism? The place was a cesspool of whining, especially in its later years.

    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales...the beautiful is the true.

    And Carlson isn’t crazy good-looking anyway. Just decent to moderately good-looking and healthy for his age. Those tend to be the sanest people. The kind of people who go hiking and boating and do normal things instead of seethe online.

    Replies: @Dissident

    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales…the beautiful is the true.

    Oh? Have you never known anyone of beautiful, noble character who was of ugly physical appearance? Or vice-versa, i.e., someone of beautiful physical appearance but downright ugly character? Visual beauty is but skin-deep.

    “What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.”
    ~ Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Dissident

    Not past the age of 25. Yeah, there are some nasty good-looking high school bullies/bitches we all run in with (those of us who attended public schools at least). But they are mostly proles who age poorly and they are not that good looking once they truly enter adulthood. Generally, good-looking people are more well-adjusted (especially true in the current era). A lot of ugly young people join these BLM marches because they never got invited to a party and want to be part of something “bigger.” Look at what happened to the unfortunate women who were run over in Seattle. Literally having a dance party beforehand. If they had just attended prom, things might have turned out a little better.

  291. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Also Tucker Carlson: I will be taking a “long planned” vacation to go fishing and it was totally my choice there’s nothing to see here okay thanks bye

    That’s it, then? That was Tucker Carlson’s much-anticipated masterstroke?

    T. Carlson apologises for what his friend did (when a close reading shows that his friend did not actually do anything wrong), then takes off to go fishing for a few days, ceding the field to the people who don’t like him?

    That was his idea of “standing tall”? Of standing up for friends against the life-destroying leftist hordes? Really?

    Well, a fair number of Unz commenters said he was going to cave in and it looks like they were right after all. I did not want to believe them, but they were right.

    This cuck-out reminds me a lot of the White House Press Corp’s behaviour before the Iraq war. When the time came for them to ask difficult, thought-provoking questions, they chose, instead, to bend over and grab their ankles.

    If Tucker Carlson cannot say what he thinks and won’t ask real questions (“why is what my friend said any of your business?”), can someone please tell me just what it is he is there for?

    On the plus side, any lingering uncertainty regarding how seriously one should take Mr. Carlson has been laid to rest. No doubt it will prove prove fascinating to watch his remaining supporters spend the next few days attempting to convince people that his complete capitulation was actually…a triumph.

    In a way you can’t blame them, I suppose. After this sell-out, that’s all they really have left: the hope that, someday, very soon, any moment now, Carlson is going to tell the truth and say what everyone has been thinking, but he must bide his time, find that perfect pair of shoes, select just the right necktie, etc.

    Sad..and yet so indicative of the real condition of the American right. Say what you will about leftists and their savage, horrifying behaviour: at least they get things done, even if they are the wrong things.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Anonymous


    Well, a fair number of Unz commenters said he was going to cave in and it looks like they were right after all. I did not want to believe them, but they were right.
     
    I predicted he would 'cave', but he's right to do so. Why be a martyr for a cause that no-one will remember by next week? And, of course, Neff may be off the payroll, but what's stopping him - if he's really that good - continuing to write for Carlson?
  292. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Adam Smith

    Mr. Smith, firstly I'm so glad to have someone like you who can answer these questions in somewhat of a nutshell! (Of course, you know I know of your computer bonafides from your comments on Peak Stupidity.)

    Now, the PRNU business (I just read your first linked-to article) is interesting. I suppose, so long as that PRNU profile was not saved by the manufacturer, someone can tell which pictures came from the same phone, but not whom that phone belongs to (barring a search warrant and your forgetting to flush your phone down the toilet).

    Regarding the metadata stuff (to you and TWGH), I figured it worked like that. Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it's own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg? The next question is if you do a "save image" of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?

    Peak Stupidity mostly gets photos off of bing images, so whatever info is contained doesn't give away anything. Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there. No, that pizza was not mine. We eat the pepperonis right away, so the swasticker couldn't have lasted long enough for a photo!

    Thanks for all the great information. Of course, I've got nothing to hide. This is for a friend of mine, yeah, that's the ticket.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

    PS: Good morning Mr. Newman,

    I agree that this PRNU business is interesting. It seems to me that PRNU data could only be useful for forensic purposes. If the manufacturers or “governments” of the world tried collecting PRNU data en masse I think they would quickly be overwhelmed with too much information for that data to be useful. I call this bulk data failure. Too much information to sift through.

    According to GSMA real-time intelligence data, there are now over 10.32 Billion mobile connections worldwide. There are an estimated 770 million surveillance cameras in the world, a number that will continue to grow. A study by LVD capital predicts that by 2022, the total number of cameras in the world will reach about 45 billion, which is a little mind boggling. Clearly PRNU data can only be useful against a targeted person or group of people, like a criminal investigation or something.

    https://www.gsmaintelligence.com/data/

    https://www.ldv.co/insights

    I agree that by studying the PRNU data someone who has a lot of time on their hands can tell which pictures came from the same phone or camera, but not whom that phone belongs to, unless there is some other sort of identifying information in the photos themselves or in the exif data or if they could get their hands on that device for awhile. (which sort of takes the mystery out of figuring out which pictures came from which camera/phone). Of course plenty of people post their photos to their facebook or instagram, so that is one way that someone could collect data from someone of interest.

    Thanks to TWGHoward I now understand that field code #EXIF5002 is reserved for a Serial Number. I looked through some pictures on my laptop and I did find some photos that were taken with a Canon EOS 6D that do include a unique serial number, 12 digits long. There is also a field for Lens Serial Number, though it is simply 0000000000. Other expensive cameras probably store this information too. In the future even the cheap cameras will collect an ever expanding set of metadata, for our safety and convenience of course. (I have nothing to hide either, so all this metadata collection stuff would never, ever bother me. I too have won the victory over myself. I love Big Brother. ♥ )

    https://learn.fotoware.com/FotoStation/06_Searching_for_assets/EXIF_field_code_reference

    http://cdn.fotoware.com/documentation/7.0/service-release-6/fotoweb/administering-fotoweb/xmp_field_code_reference.htm

    Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it’s own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg?

    I tested this on my laptop and I am happy to report that my print screen software does not store exif data or inject it’s own. I also read that .png does not store exif data (yet?) and that if you convert from .jpg to .png the exif data will not be present in the new photo. This probably does not apply to all screenshot software, but probably does if your software stores your screenshot in .png format. But…

    According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9542359/does-png-contain-exif-data-like-jpg

    Version 1.5.0 (July 2017) of the Extensions to the PNG 1.2 Specification has finally added an EXIF chunk. It remains to be seen if encoders-decoders begin to support it.

    As of July 2017, PNG officially supports an eXIf chunk to store EXIF metadata. ExifTool 10.59 and later write EXIF to this new chunk in PNG images.
    ImageMagick stores EXIF information in a PNG “Raw profile type APP1” zTXt chunk when converting from JPEG images. This method of storing EXIF in PNG images is also supported by ExifTool (and I believe Exiv2 too), but it is not part of the PNG or EXIF specification.

    Exiv2? What’s that…

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiv2

    So… apt-get install exiv2

    This tool reads different types of metadata from different sorts of files. Seems like a nice compliment to exiftool and exif. You might want to tell your friend about it.

    The next question is if you do a “save image” of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?

    It does, if the information hasn’t been removed. They say that Facebook and Instagram remove metadata from photos, so presumably some other websites do too. (Flickr evidently does not) However…

    https://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/how-to-remove-exif-metadata

    While social media platforms like Facebook or Instagram strip out the metadata before it shows your photo to the world, they don’t just simply erase that metadata. Metadata is valuble to them. They collect it and store it next to your likes, comments, your network of ‘friends’ etc in order to profile you.

    Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there.

    Yes… Or your friend could remove the data with exiftool like this…

    exiftool -all= path_to_file

    ExifTool will strip out all the Exif data from your photo and create a new file leaving the original photo untouched.

    So, Mr. Newman, please thank your friend for the interesting questions. I haven’t had this much fun learning about “behind the scenes computer stuff” since I learned about embedding an invisible hidden .exe in an alternate data stream in the ntfs filesystem or the day I learned how to put an encrypted .pdf of 1984 inside a zip file inside a truecrypt archive inside a George Orwell picture with steghide…

    I hope you and the rest of the Newman clan have a nice day.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Adam Smith

    Thank you very much, Adam. Besides answering my questions very well, you've got me really wanting to get Debian (or something like it) so that I can actually DO stuff on my computer.

    Sometime on PS, I'd like to do a little experimenting. Good morning, from one Big Brother lover to another.

  293. @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    I agree with this in principle, but my experience with America's WASP class is that to a surprising degree they do let their kids sink or swim. Not 100% obviously, but far more than the silver-spoon-to-the-manor-born stereotype would lead you to believe, and more even than common prudence might lead you to expect. Whether this is a cause of their decline, a result of their decline, or has always been true I don't know. It is just an observation.

    From what I can tell (history, and a small amount of personal experience) protected upbringing is more true of the English upper class, and was still more true historically.

    Certainly it is a conundrum for any elite: how to preserve your own progeny's role in it when they may or may not merit it? You can just cross your fingers and rely on nature (r-selection), or invest massively in nurture to squeeze out whatever merit genes have bestowed (K-selection). Obviously, either approach has optimal circumstances.

    I have always admired the ancient Persian admonition that the proper upbringing for a young nobleman was to learn "to ride, shoot straight and speak the truth", implying that after that everything else would follow naturally according to ability and destiny.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    I grew up in a WASP family. We were all inculcated in fair play, being rewarded for merit, and that nepotism was bad. Great principles, but left us all defenseless in the face of the many immigrant tribes who put loyalty to the clan above all.

  294. @U. Ranus
    @Almost Missouri

    Unz serves tracking scripts by Facebook, Goolag, and others, and has been doing so since forever. If you have a Facebook account, they know everything about your unz.com activities across any number of different pseudonyms you may have ever used. Same story for Goolag.

    I don't doubt for a second that various Alphabet Soup Entities have access to those data hoards as well, although that almost doesn't matter as the major theme of what's happening in the US is privatization of everything anyway.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    That’s a good point. Commenters should use a separate browser for commenting, and not let it crossload bookmarks, cookies, etc. from other browsers at installation. Or better yet, use a separate computer with a VPN.

  295. @Almost Missouri
    @Finnian Clonard

    Questions, if you don't mind.

    Did you know CharlesXII was Neff before last week?

    Whether or not you did know, if Neff's doxxing was "neither the result of his intentional actions or his gross negligence," how do you think CNN figured it out?

    Are large national law firm's partners as pozzed and lefty as the Bar Association's pronouncements and their pro bono activity suggest?

    Do you consider yourself unusual among large national law firm's partners, either politically or in being a dedicated forum poaster?

    Do you have any advice for Neff?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Almost Missouri

    Note to readers:

    Finnian Clonardwrote a thoughtful reply to these questions below, but it didn’t show up as a “reply” here.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-alexander-was-right-to-fear-doxing-after-all-cnn-doxes-a-tucker-carlson-writer/#comment-4032071

  296. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    No apologies. He (and Tucker) can beat this without an “on the knees” apology.
     
    I don’t know their relationship, so I assumed it was standard boss/employee. If he and Neff are tight, I’d agree Tucker skipping the pageant show, and letting the news cycle wash it out was the best play, since it manifests zero agency to cnn in the matter, and everyone has learned a little lesson before we head into President Trump's successful re-election. Inspired strategy played tonight. Tucker’s vacation announcement was hilarious.

    Wishing that Neff fellow well, and as for Tucker, he’s been doing a man's job, is certainly a good friend, and deserves the time off to catch a lot of trout.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Maybe Tucker thought “You know, I’ve been wanting to go fishing for a while now, and since the crap weasels at Fox HQ just threw my buddy under the bus without even offering him the chance to do an apology tour and tongue bathe Don Lemon’s feet, maybe I’ll just go fishing now, and let Fox find out just how many of my 4.3 million viewers they can keep with guest hosts.” IOW, fu.

    I won’t be watching unless Steyn is the host.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Jim Don Bob

    Brian Kilmeade is standing in.

  297. @128
    @JimDandy

    Trump and his 500000 H-1bs a year, and a million "skilled" and "unskilled" immigrants, if he get what he wants? How many Confederate monuments are still standing, what he has done to preserve them? What has he done that is useful except billions per year for Israel?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Andrew Jackson is still standing. And we haven’t gotten involved in any additional hot wars since he took office. The kangaroo court system that was waging war on men on college campuses has been reversed. I could go on. My point isn’t that Trump is a perfect president, but that it’s all relative. Is your point that it makes absolutely no difference whether or not it’s him or Biden sitting in the Oval Office? If so, I disagree.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    https://www.twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1283134742066532353

    Replies: @Dissident, @Henry's Cat

  298. @Anonymous

    Also Tucker Carlson: I will be taking a "long planned" vacation to go fishing and it was totally my choice there's nothing to see here okay thanks bye
     
    That's it, then? That was Tucker Carlson's much-anticipated masterstroke?

    T. Carlson apologises for what his friend did (when a close reading shows that his friend did not actually do anything wrong), then takes off to go fishing for a few days, ceding the field to the people who don't like him?

    That was his idea of "standing tall"? Of standing up for friends against the life-destroying leftist hordes? Really?

    Well, a fair number of Unz commenters said he was going to cave in and it looks like they were right after all. I did not want to believe them, but they were right.

    This cuck-out reminds me a lot of the White House Press Corp's behaviour before the Iraq war. When the time came for them to ask difficult, thought-provoking questions, they chose, instead, to bend over and grab their ankles.

    If Tucker Carlson cannot say what he thinks and won't ask real questions ("why is what my friend said any of your business?"), can someone please tell me just what it is he is there for?

    On the plus side, any lingering uncertainty regarding how seriously one should take Mr. Carlson has been laid to rest. No doubt it will prove prove fascinating to watch his remaining supporters spend the next few days attempting to convince people that his complete capitulation was actually...a triumph.

    In a way you can't blame them, I suppose. After this sell-out, that's all they really have left: the hope that, someday, very soon, any moment now, Carlson is going to tell the truth and say what everyone has been thinking, but he must bide his time, find that perfect pair of shoes, select just the right necktie, etc.

    Sad..and yet so indicative of the real condition of the American right. Say what you will about leftists and their savage, horrifying behaviour: at least they get things done, even if they are the wrong things.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Well, a fair number of Unz commenters said he was going to cave in and it looks like they were right after all. I did not want to believe them, but they were right.

    I predicted he would ‘cave’, but he’s right to do so. Why be a martyr for a cause that no-one will remember by next week? And, of course, Neff may be off the payroll, but what’s stopping him – if he’s really that good – continuing to write for Carlson?

  299. @gate666
    @Blackpilled American

    you are praising ann coulter who never married and has zero children.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Almost Missouri, @Mr. Anon, @Dennis Dale, @Patrick Boyle

    I’ll probably get a lot of flack for this speculation. But first let me assure you that I love Ann Coulter. I had an employee who kept telling me to marry her – she was available he said. But maybe not.

    She may be a guy. Tall attractive women with good skin sometimes have AIS (Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome). Pretty women without kids are often accused of it. Jamie Lee Curtis is one who is often thought to have this condition.

    It arises because all embryos start off looking female but some have XY chromosomes and in utero secrete testosterone which bring about the male characteristics. But some embryonic males with AIS resist those T juice changes and continue to look like females after birth and into adulthood.

    It is thought (mostly by scandal sheet tabloids not doctors) that a lot of models and movie stars have this condition. In the past it was said that brothels like such people as prostitutes because they were pretty and couldn’t get pregnant. I have no way of knowing if this is true. It does seem likely to be true that they tend to be tall and slim.

  300. @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    Maybe Tucker thought "You know, I've been wanting to go fishing for a while now, and since the crap weasels at Fox HQ just threw my buddy under the bus without even offering him the chance to do an apology tour and tongue bathe Don Lemon's feet, maybe I'll just go fishing now, and let Fox find out just how many of my 4.3 million viewers they can keep with guest hosts." IOW, fu.

    I won't be watching unless Steyn is the host.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Brian Kilmeade is standing in.

  301. @3g4me
    @Anonymous

    @163 Anon387: That's because about 99% of Sailer's posters unquestioningly accept the left's moral framing. Oh, they claim to be edgy and accept HBD, but they don't really. They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend 'x', who's not really like the others. And as morally superior intellectuals, they'll insist that character comes first, even though it's downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate 'opposition.' Everything proceeds from there.

    And Tucker will cuck. Count on it. And everyone here will justify his and their surrender, because people always justify their moral compromises out of self interest. Always.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

    And as morally superior intellectuals, they’ll insist that character comes first, even though it’s downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.

    Do you deny that one can find (at least some number of) people of good character as well as people of bad character within all genetic groupings? Do you deny that there are individuals of fine character who were born to parents of poor character? Do you not acknowledge a distinction between such traits as moral character, temperament, and affability, on the one hand, and intelligence, cognitive ability, talent, skills, on the other? If you do acknowledge such a distinction, then would you not also acknowledge that at least with regard to the former category, an individual can transcend whatever genetic predispositions he may have inherited? Do individuals not have moral agency? Do individuals not continually make conscious choices that have moral consequences and repercussions?

    They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others.

    Is it your position, then, that individuals of certain races should never fraternize or align themselves with individuals of certain other races? Is it your position that the typical white, non-Jewish iSteve reader/poster should avoid forming any personal relationship with any black or Jew, or perhaps with any non-white?

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate ‘opposition.’

    Is the difference between equality of outcome (not only impossible to achieve but detrimental to attempt to) and equality of opportunity (generally a noble and constructive ideal to strive toward) not germane, even critical here?

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Dissident

    @302 Dissident : Why bless your heart, you're not a dissident - you're a civ nat who thinks he's edgy. Your absolute moral certainty shines through your post, so I won't even attempt to pop your virtuous moral bubble dear.

  302. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy
    @128

    Andrew Jackson is still standing. And we haven't gotten involved in any additional hot wars since he took office. The kangaroo court system that was waging war on men on college campuses has been reversed. I could go on. My point isn't that Trump is a perfect president, but that it's all relative. Is your point that it makes absolutely no difference whether or not it's him or Biden sitting in the Oval Office? If so, I disagree.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Anonymous


    Asked why Black Americans are killed by police, @POTUS responds: "So are White people. So are White people. What a terrible question to ask. So are White people... More White people, by the way. More White people." https://cbsnews.com/news/trump-black-americans-killed-police-white-too/
     
    Looks like a good start. Now perhaps the President could go on to name and tweet about some of the specific cases that have been cited by commenters here in which mentally ill, apparently innocent whites have been killed by police. Or, perhaps he should begin with naming some of the blacks killed by police who were at least far more sympathetic characters than Floyd, Brown, Trayvon or any number of other canonized ones.

    How often has President Trump cited any of the additional specific statistics that refute the "systemic racism"/"police brutality" Narrative? Such as:
    - non-whites are more likely to be shot at by a non-white police officer than by a white one
    - a non-white individual is far more likely to be brutalized or killed by a non-white thug than by a police officer of any race
    - blacks brutalize and kill police in far higher numbers than the reverse

    Finally, what about citing some of the many specific instances-- obscured and often outright ignored-- by the media and other Respectable voices, in which whites were viciously brutalized and killed by blacks?

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Anonymous

    Not bad, but imagine if he had copies of the Cesario and Johnson paper ready to hand out, before noting it had been withdrawn.

  303. @Kratoklastes
    @bomag

    Huge difference: Yagoda (and Beria etc) were insiders who fell out of favour.

    So a modern parallel would be if the WokeBorg turned its lidded gaze on Sarah Jeong or the faggy cunt from Patreon.

    On the bright side: we're not far from that at this point.

    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they're not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don't like.

    There's such a thing as feminists and lesbians (and just ordinary-ass normal women) who have had a gutful of men in dresses shrieking louder than a hen's night group, too.

    Give it a little while longer and then they'll all be at each others' throats. In the meantime, some good stuff will happen - e.g., the dismantling of statues that glorify the losing side in the US Civil War.

    I have strong views on the outright wrongness of the Union side of that conflict, but the erection of those statues was outright political pandering to the losers, decades after the event.

    Imagine the US/Allied response if a German government announced it was going to put up statues of Rommel, Guderian or Skorzeny, along with a more general hagiography of the patriotic efforts of the Wehrmacht and the rehabilitation of the Kriegsfahne and swastika.

    Now imagine how a German Red Sea Pedestrian would feel about that: that'll give a sense of how US blacks feel (and felt) about 'commemoration' of the Confederacy.

    It's also weird as fuck that US soldiers don't feel weird about bases named after men who were leaders of an insurrectionist 'foreign' military who were dedicated to killing US soldiers (again... would the US ever contemplate "Fort Rommel"? "Fort Zubaydah"?).

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dissident

    The Red Sea Pedestrians are already getting their tefillin in a twist because they’re not the Peak Victim this month, and the verkakte Schvartzers have started to make noises that the RSPs don’t like.

    The overwhelming majority of prominent, influential, officious Jews of the type you allude-to are irreligious and even abysmally ignorant of the religion of their forefathers. Outside of the Orthodox, few Jews are likely to have worn tefillin since their bar-mitzvah— if they even did then (or even acknowledged their becoming bar-mitzvah).
    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/hasidic-boy-wearing-phylacteries-picture-id583739576?s=2048×2048

  304. @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    https://www.twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1283134742066532353

    Replies: @Dissident, @Henry's Cat

    Asked why Black Americans are killed by police, @POTUS responds: “So are White people. So are White people. What a terrible question to ask. So are White people… More White people, by the way. More White people.” https://cbsnews.com/news/trump-black-americans-killed-police-white-too/

    Looks like a good start. Now perhaps the President could go on to name and tweet about some of the specific cases that have been cited by commenters here in which mentally ill, apparently innocent whites have been killed by police. Or, perhaps he should begin with naming some of the blacks killed by police who were at least far more sympathetic characters than Floyd, Brown, Trayvon or any number of other canonized ones.

    How often has President Trump cited any of the additional specific statistics that refute the “systemic racism”/”police brutality” Narrative? Such as:
    – non-whites are more likely to be shot at by a non-white police officer than by a white one
    – a non-white individual is far more likely to be brutalized or killed by a non-white thug than by a police officer of any race
    – blacks brutalize and kill police in far higher numbers than the reverse

    Finally, what about citing some of the many specific instances– obscured and often outright ignored– by the media and other Respectable voices, in which whites were viciously brutalized and killed by blacks?

  305. @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    https://www.twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1283134742066532353

    Replies: @Dissident, @Henry's Cat

    Not bad, but imagine if he had copies of the Cesario and Johnson paper ready to hand out, before noting it had been withdrawn.

  306. @anonymous
    @SafeNow

    It's likely a small change to the Unz.com codebase to add a date filter to comment histories for non-Unz accounts. Probably less than a few hours of work.

    Expecting users to periodically sprinkle false information into their comments is asking a lot.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Eh, I’ve been doing that all along. I’m 95 percent honest but I cloak certain (either downplaying or embellishing experiences, slightly changing locations) things so I can’t be doxxed.

  307. @Dissident
    @S. Anonyia


    I think along the lines of the ancient Greeks and old fairy tales…the beautiful is the true.
     
    Oh? Have you never known anyone of beautiful, noble character who was of ugly physical appearance? Or vice-versa, i.e., someone of beautiful physical appearance but downright ugly character? Visual beauty is but skin-deep.

    “What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.”
    ~ Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Not past the age of 25. Yeah, there are some nasty good-looking high school bullies/bitches we all run in with (those of us who attended public schools at least). But they are mostly proles who age poorly and they are not that good looking once they truly enter adulthood. Generally, good-looking people are more well-adjusted (especially true in the current era). A lot of ugly young people join these BLM marches because they never got invited to a party and want to be part of something “bigger.” Look at what happened to the unfortunate women who were run over in Seattle. Literally having a dance party beforehand. If they had just attended prom, things might have turned out a little better.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  308. @Dissident
    @3g4me


    And as morally superior intellectuals, they’ll insist that character comes first, even though it’s downstream from genetics, like almost everything else.
     
    Do you deny that one can find (at least some number of) people of good character as well as people of bad character within all genetic groupings? Do you deny that there are individuals of fine character who were born to parents of poor character? Do you not acknowledge a distinction between such traits as moral character, temperament, and affability, on the one hand, and intelligence, cognitive ability, talent, skills, on the other? If you do acknowledge such a distinction, then would you not also acknowledge that at least with regard to the former category, an individual can transcend whatever genetic predispositions he may have inherited? Do individuals not have moral agency? Do individuals not continually make conscious choices that have moral consequences and repercussions?

    They just find the excesses of POC a bit unsavory, but they really like their good friend ‘x’, who’s not really like the others.
     
    Is it your position, then, that individuals of certain races should never fraternize or align themselves with individuals of certain other races? Is it your position that the typical white, non-Jewish iSteve reader/poster should avoid forming any personal relationship with any black or Jew, or perhaps with any non-white?

    If one starts out accepting that equality is both a realistic goal and a moral good, then one cannot lay claim to any sort of legitimate ‘opposition.’
     
    Is the difference between equality of outcome (not only impossible to achieve but detrimental to attempt to) and equality of opportunity (generally a noble and constructive ideal to strive toward) not germane, even critical here?

    Replies: @3g4me

    @302 Dissident : Why bless your heart, you’re not a dissident – you’re a civ nat who thinks he’s edgy. Your absolute moral certainty shines through your post, so I won’t even attempt to pop your virtuous moral bubble dear.

  309. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @V. K. Ovelund
    @Anonymous


    Regardless of his intent, that’s asking to be fired. Any corporation would do it.
     
    As recently as 20 years ago, the typical American employer would probably have ignored what Neff did on his personal time, regardless of the name Neff had used when he did it.

    All of us cannot flee forever. Prudence is wanted but there are limits to cowardice.

    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.

    What would you hope that he say?

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @Anonymous


    What would you hope that he say?
     
    Thank you for asking. My reply is now obsolete, unfortunately, since Carlson has already said it.

    I do not know Neff but Carlson does, so I assume that Carlson has said the right thing about him.

    What would you hope that he say?
  310. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    PS: Good morning Mr. Newman,

    I agree that this PRNU business is interesting. It seems to me that PRNU data could only be useful for forensic purposes. If the manufacturers or “governments” of the world tried collecting PRNU data en masse I think they would quickly be overwhelmed with too much information for that data to be useful. I call this bulk data failure. Too much information to sift through.

    According to GSMA real-time intelligence data, there are now over 10.32 Billion mobile connections worldwide. There are an estimated 770 million surveillance cameras in the world, a number that will continue to grow. A study by LVD capital predicts that by 2022, the total number of cameras in the world will reach about 45 billion, which is a little mind boggling. Clearly PRNU data can only be useful against a targeted person or group of people, like a criminal investigation or something.

    https://www.gsmaintelligence.com/data/

    https://www.ldv.co/insights

    I agree that by studying the PRNU data someone who has a lot of time on their hands can tell which pictures came from the same phone or camera, but not whom that phone belongs to, unless there is some other sort of identifying information in the photos themselves or in the exif data or if they could get their hands on that device for awhile. (which sort of takes the mystery out of figuring out which pictures came from which camera/phone). Of course plenty of people post their photos to their facebook or instagram, so that is one way that someone could collect data from someone of interest.

    Thanks to TWGHoward I now understand that field code #EXIF5002 is reserved for a Serial Number. I looked through some pictures on my laptop and I did find some photos that were taken with a Canon EOS 6D that do include a unique serial number, 12 digits long. There is also a field for Lens Serial Number, though it is simply 0000000000. Other expensive cameras probably store this information too. In the future even the cheap cameras will collect an ever expanding set of metadata, for our safety and convenience of course. (I have nothing to hide either, so all this metadata collection stuff would never, ever bother me. I too have won the victory over myself. I love Big Brother. ♥ )

    https://learn.fotoware.com/FotoStation/06_Searching_for_assets/EXIF_field_code_reference

    http://cdn.fotoware.com/documentation/7.0/service-release-6/fotoweb/administering-fotoweb/xmp_field_code_reference.htm


    Therefore, if one just screenshots an image on his computer/tablet screen that was taken from his camera, at that point, the image should be missing all that. Does the tablet/computer software put in it’s own, different but still revealing, info into this new jpg?
     
    I tested this on my laptop and I am happy to report that my print screen software does not store exif data or inject it's own. I also read that .png does not store exif data (yet?) and that if you convert from .jpg to .png the exif data will not be present in the new photo. This probably does not apply to all screenshot software, but probably does if your software stores your screenshot in .png format. But...

    According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9542359/does-png-contain-exif-data-like-jpg

    Version 1.5.0 (July 2017) of the Extensions to the PNG 1.2 Specification has finally added an EXIF chunk. It remains to be seen if encoders-decoders begin to support it.

    As of July 2017, PNG officially supports an eXIf chunk to store EXIF metadata. ExifTool 10.59 and later write EXIF to this new chunk in PNG images.
    ImageMagick stores EXIF information in a PNG "Raw profile type APP1" zTXt chunk when converting from JPEG images. This method of storing EXIF in PNG images is also supported by ExifTool (and I believe Exiv2 too), but it is not part of the PNG or EXIF specification.

    Exiv2? What's that...

    https://packages.debian.org/jessie/exiv2

    So... apt-get install exiv2

    This tool reads different types of metadata from different sorts of files. Seems like a nice compliment to exiftool and exif. You might want to tell your friend about it.

    The next question is if you do a “save image” of a pic on a webpage, then the metadata gets saved too, does it not (after all, you are downloading the photo file itself)?
     
    It does, if the information hasn't been removed. They say that Facebook and Instagram remove metadata from photos, so presumably some other websites do too. (Flickr evidently does not) However...

    https://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/how-to-remove-exif-metadata

    While social media platforms like Facebook or Instagram strip out the metadata before it shows your photo to the world, they don’t just simply erase that metadata. Metadata is valuble to them. They collect it and store it next to your likes, comments, your network of ‘friends’ etc in order to profile you.

    Any taken with whatever phones could be anonymized by just ptr-scrn, then pasting into the image software and going from there.
     
    Yes... Or your friend could remove the data with exiftool like this...

    exiftool -all= path_to_file

    ExifTool will strip out all the Exif data from your photo and create a new file leaving the original photo untouched.

    So, Mr. Newman, please thank your friend for the interesting questions. I haven't had this much fun learning about “behind the scenes computer stuff” since I learned about embedding an invisible hidden .exe in an alternate data stream in the ntfs filesystem or the day I learned how to put an encrypted .pdf of 1984 inside a zip file inside a truecrypt archive inside a George Orwell picture with steghide...

    I hope you and the rest of the Newman clan have a nice day.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you very much, Adam. Besides answering my questions very well, you’ve got me really wanting to get Debian (or something like it) so that I can actually DO stuff on my computer.

    Sometime on PS, I’d like to do a little experimenting. Good morning, from one Big Brother lover to another.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  311. @Anonymous
    @V. K. Ovelund


    Carlson must decide what to say tonight. It is his choice to make. The consequences for him may be profound, so I do not judge, but I hope that he stands up for Neff.
     
    What would you hope that he say?

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    What would you hope that he say?

    Thank you for asking. My reply is now obsolete, unfortunately, since Carlson has already said it.

    I do not know Neff but Carlson does, so I assume that Carlson has said the right thing about him.

    What would you hope that he say?

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