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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:
Admitting the Unthinkable
Steve SailerJanuary 18, 2023
Institutional momentum continues to build in wealthy parts of the country where blacks were historically least oppressed by slavery and Jim Crow for cashing in white guilt over George Floyd as racial reparations before whites wise up (or cynical Asians and Hispanics take over).
… And now the all-black reparations panel in San Francisco (Biden 85 percent) has posted a 59-page draft plan with 114 enumerated action items, the first being to gift each member of the San Francisco African American Reparations Advisory Committee, along with practically every other black in San Francisco and many elsewhere, 5 million bucks:
1.1 Provide a one-time, lump sum payment of $5 million to each eligible person. Rationale: A lump sum payment would compensate the affected population for the decades of harms that they have experienced, and will redress the economic and opportunity losses that Black San Franciscans have endured, collectively, as the result of both intentional decisions and unintended harms perpetuated by City policy.
You might worry that blacks given $5 million could blow the money like in the 2003 Dave Chapelle sketch and soon be as bankrupt as an ex–NFL player. But they have a plan to deal with that contingency in their second bullet point:
1.2 Supplement African-American income of lower income households to reflect the Area Median Income (AMI) annually for at least 250 years ($97,000 in 2022). Rationale: Racial disparities across all metrics have led to a significant racial wealth gap in the City of San Francisco. By elevating income to match AMI, Black people can better afford housing and achieve a better quality of life.
Reparations now, reparations tomorrow, reparations forever! (Or at least until AD 2273.)
Read the whole thing there.
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CALPERS can cover it.
Old School San Francisco and KQED were pretty cool.
The Tweet’s replies are interesting. Based on the replies, it seems that these types of racial attacks are common in the UK. It also seems that Britain has embraced the same political correctness that we have here.
It’s amazing how much Americanization is changing the rest of the world, especially the other Western countries. Everywhere you go, you’re in America.
“With the failure of the Bush Push to lend more to Latinos and blacks, the only plan left for blacks is “equity”: i.e., taxing away the home equity of whites.”
It’s not really a claim on the home equity of whites. For these amounts and the next 250 years it’s actually a claim on the labor of all non-Blacks. That is, a kind of slavery.
Looks like lots of folks will be moving to San Francisco, which will drive up housing costs. I bet they complain that $5 mil will not be enough to buy a decent house there and demand more. And more, and more, and more… Expect Schlitz Malt Liquor, jewelry and hair care products to skyrocket too.
Do these California politicians know something that most people are afraid to accept? The US Dollar is going down. Promises in Dollars are worthless in even the medium run.
So, what, it’s like only $40 Trillion in initial payments, less than the US Feral Gov’t debt, and nobody worries about that sum either.
That supplemented to AMI thing is just an admission that hard-core Socialism is what they expect to be the new way, after the economic SHTF. Full disclosure: Black people may or may not be given a damn about, at that point.
Do they think the “golden” in “golden hills of California” refers to something other than dry grass? It IS beautiful, but you can’t keep using beauty as collateral.
Appropriately, from the album American Beauty:
Gonna leave this broke-down palace,
on my hands and my knees I will roll roll roll.
Make myself a bed by the waterside.
In my time, in my time, I will roll roll roll.
In a bed, in a bed
by the waterside I will lay my head.
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
to rock my soul.
(Studio version only due to this crowd of the uninitiated.)
Intellectually, the Biden family makes the Bush family look like the Adams family.
Nice essay. There was a point not too long ago when I would’ve thought, “Well, this will do it. Not even white liberals are this idiotic. The tide will turn the other way.” I’m not completely without hope but more and more I feel the nation has finally gone too far down the drain.
Okay, Steve, or anyone else, I am not from California or indeed anywhere in the US and am really struggling to understand the rationale behind this stuff.
It is a political move, right, coming from the Democratic side?
And it is not really going to happen – especially not in California where blacks are only 6% or so of the population, with large voters groups like Latinos and Asians who absolutely despise blacks compared to YT, the only person who gives them anything approximating a fair deal.
So the blacks start drooling over their $350,000 or $5million or whatever this week`s figure is, then they are told they are not getting it? Do they not get a bit upset at that? With the Democrats?
And are the Asians, and Latinos pleased by such Democrat reparation proposals?
I cannot see how the Democrats gain – or am I utterly missing the point?
Back when the Covid payments started (and certain people pointed out that this was technically not the same thing as legislating inflation) I realized that the only way to make the payments work would be if everyone, instead of buying pizza and sushi, intelligently invested the money. No one invested the money and now we have runaway inflation and ten dollar eggs.
What makes the Asians and Hispanics cynical? That they refuse to accept guilt for one of the more over indulged footnotes in the history of a country that occurred before they arrived? I can relate to that.
Realistic, pragmatic, sure. Cynical? You’re projecting by proxy. Every single negro in a position of power or influence in the US is extremely cynical.
Well, that should attract blacks from around the country like flies to a pile of dog dump. Sorry Steve-o, but the proverbial BIG one can’t come soon enough.
Well if you’re going to go around quoting the Grateful Dead (very late convert, over LOOOONG opposition, long story), this would make more sense…
We can share the women,
We can share the wine.
We can share a-what you got a-yours,
Cuz we done shared all a-mine….
I left this response at National Review after reading its take on the San Francisco proposal:
“Insane,” “madness,” “preposterous” — why are the editors of National Review so reluctant to see such proposals as what they are, that is, self-interested, ideologically buttressed attacks on the well-being of white people? The word missing here is “insulting”, and it boggles my mind why I need to go to Vdare and AmRen and Taki’s to read people willing to face facts. I recommend Steve Sailer’s piece in Taki’s today (Wednesday). As he makes clear, there is nothing “insane” about this proposal; it is an utterly rational attempt to extort money from white people. NR treats it as an ill-founded policy decision, which is, to borrow NR’s own term, too close to “insane” for me.
Scott Adams’ take on this is that Newsom is playing the reparations thing perfectly: Appoint a commission to study the issue, and then when the recommendations come out and everyone sees the solutions are completely impractical, drop the issue.
I’m not so sure he’s right. I don’t see the issue going away–I see the $5M asking price being negotiated down to $500K or something. Which is $500K too much IMHO.
Blacks should be paying whites reparations: Their ancestors were brought to a land where they were able to prosper. Are blacks suggesting the counterfactual where their ancestors stayed in Africa would have left them better off today?
And without blacks in the U.S., we’d require literally half the current police force.
In America you got food to eat/
ain’t gotta run through the jungle and scuff up your feet
The hippies were the ones who helped produce wokeism, ultimately, by dislodging the 1950s-era Episcopacy (WASP establishment). It took 60 years.
Stuff like this is why I don’t like ‘Cutural Marxism’ as a term. These people are much more about hating their dads than anything to do with striking workers.
From a practical point of view, both the CA and SF reparations proposals would require borrowing sums that are large multiples of their annual budget – even assuming they are able to do so without wrecking their bond rating for any other borrowing, I would assume the tax increases necessary to service a vastly increased debt load couldn’t be confined to just the rich. Given how not black California and SF are, if any reparations scheme were enacted, would a populist backlash be possible?
At any rate, the left really does not believe blacks are capable of self-improvement any longer. The rhetoric around what could loosely be described as civil rights as devolved from “we just need to remove institutional barriers and blacks will take their rightful place alongside whites” to “the care and feeding of blacks is the responsibility of everyone else, now and forever.”
The arrival of stimmy checks a couple of Christmases ago resulted in a line hundreds of people long at the Gucci and Tiffany stores (directly across from each other) at my local high end mall, and a friend who works for the local mall owner said the first round produced the highest one day sales at the Finish Line they had ever seen. I can only imagine the result of the same demo suddenly flush with six figures or more, the resulting conflict over who’s wearing it best, and the already extremely high cost of housing.
Have a gander at the livelihood of the 16 members of the commission. Most of them have spent the bulk of their lives as NGO employees, mostly outfits that sound like they couldn’t survive a performance audit; one is a clergyman. A couple of others have discretionary appointments in the Frisco city government. Another is a lapsed prison guard who is now on the city payroll. One of these people was once in the restaurant business (now employed at an NGO). Another runs a sketchy consulting business. One person has a normal office job (at Kaiser Permanente).
In defense of The Dead and the Dead Heads, SFG:
Jerry, Bob, Phil, Mickey, Billy, and whatever keyboard player hadn’t OD’d yet at any given time, were one of the most All-American bands ever. They covered bluegrass, country, blues, and pure rock & roll. They were one of the hardest-working/playing bands – I read that Jerry, Bob, and Phil did something like 1,500 shows in a row without a one of them being absent.
There was really not much political in the songs of the Dead. They didn’t go spouting lefty platitudes during their shows like Bono – they just played and played and played…
The Dead Heads may have been the most visible example of Hippies, but they were in it for the music and atmosphere. I’m sure they leaned left in some senses, but then there was an entrepreneurial bent to them too, I mean, if you like beads and getting bent on hallucinogenics …
For Clifford, I will add KFOG radio and the Dead Head hour too. I can remember a radio interview with the band, and a question involving the band and drugs. The guy kept asking, and then Jerry said something like “I can’t hear your question… his lips are moving, but there’s nothing coming out.”, with snickers all around.
oops, meant to write “$20 Trillion in initial payments” – that’s less than the Feral debt.
Great column, Steve. I saw it was about a lot more than the reparations stupidity.
I don’t think you’ll convince the anti-White ctrl-left that black people would be better off not being coddled and being left alone to work harder and make their own way. Not only is there no money and virtue-signaling in that, but it’d be agreeing with what deplorable White men have been saying since the 1960s. Can’t have that!
1964 civil rights act had unintended consequences. Not acknowledging an average iq of 85 for african americans has consequences.
Franz Boas and the fraudulent anthropologists have led us to this point. 100 years of lying in academia about the black problem.
And when African Americans find their reparations money doesn’t go very far?
Burn it all down until more is forthcoming. Right?
It could be a cyclical phenomenon, except it’s unsustainable.
Whites are scheduled to be a minority in the next 20 years, but African Americans are not gaining. And Whites will still be the single largest group for a while.
African Americans are being manipulated into a position where the new non-White majority (Hispanics + Asians) will have no choice. They will do what Whites would never do. Exterminate African Americans. And they won’t need governmental control to do this.
What about compensating White people for excessive Black criminality?
SF uses naturally rising housing prices and AFFH to get rid of its black residents, and after all that, it wants to give reparations to its black residents. It’s like we’re living inside an Alanis Morissette song.
One of the Founders of the Dead helped put down the Watts riots as a member of the California National Guard. How many people here have done anything that useful?
Remember kids, Uppercase Americans drive down quality of life statistics and housing prices!
OJ Simpson lived in SF till he went off to USC. Think he qualifies under the plan. Despite his conviction for I think robbery and kidnapping in Las Vegas. Goes without saying the conviction was evidence of a racist system, that would not leave the poor guy alone after trying unsuccessfully to convict him previously for murder.
But wondering, the Goldman family successfully sued OJ civilly for wrongful death of their son but think OJ managed to evade making any payments due to his income being from his NFL pension and his home being in FL all being protected. If OJ collects will money go to Goldmans?
This is by far not the last you will hear about reparations. Talking to a friend years ago and warned him this was coming. Inmates now in charge of the asylum. They come up with the idea of a $5M plan now which will make it easier to actually eventually enact a $500K plan later.
I think it’s great.
If people don’t wake up after this crap, what’s it going to take?
It’s like living in a bad dream. Are there no adults in the room? Will no one dare tell this commission that they should stick their recommendation where the sun don’t shine?
Or maybe the plan is just to thank them and humor them and tell them that while we totally agree that blacks are owed $40 gazillion $ because of how much poorer they are than if they had stayed in Wakanda, we’re a little bit short on funds right now and can’t pay them what they are owed.
And maybe doesn’t the commission know that and view their demands as a symbolic gesture? Or is this their idea of negotiating? Ask for $5M and then “settle” for some smaller number?
Please, someone tell me that there are adults in the room in SF such that this all makes sense on some level and is not just insane?
Obviously, this will go nowhere, but I like it. Any policy proposals that are overtly racial is good in it pushes whites just a bit closer to realizing how laughably stupid colorblind civic nationalism is.
Sadly, however, blacks, financed and organized by their masters, won’t push whites over the edge. Too much guilt from generations of propaganda.
No, what gets whites upset is being lectured to by Indians, Asians and, to some degree, Hispanics, which happens more and more. I’m optimistic about the future for whites, though the US is looking a bit more sketchy.
You knew it could never be a one time lump sum payment because these people never want you to be rid of the Dane.
“Give every man, woman, and child $5,000,000.00.”
OK, but you have to stop complaining and go away!
“Well, no – we thought of that – you also have to supplement each of our personal incomes on an annual basis to the rate of one and a half times the median household income for 250 years.”
No one is coming to rescue us, Jack. They’re not going to be shocked out of their ideological intoxication and start behaving in a reasonable manner all of a sudden because you’ve made the better argument. They want it, they don’t need a convincing reason, they just need to accumulate enough power to overwhelm you and take it. At a practical level, they need enough white liberals to indulge their hatred for prole whites – white liberals would love little more than to see their hated cousins spit shining the shoes of every ghetto denizen on every street corner.
Shouldn’t the more-equal-than-others, especially in California, be providing reparations for the indigenous tribes before they consider reparations for anyone else?
Blacks still have Africa and there are billions of them.
Indigenous North Americans have been nearly eradicated and they have nearly nothing.
Aside: Never (let them) forget, Harvard is built on land stolen/swindled from an indigenous Massachusetts tribe.
This is why the no matter how much is paid in “reparations”, it will never be enough.
During the pandemic, a lot of government stimulus went toward paying down household debt, and a lot of it went into conspicuous consumption. I’ll let the readers guess the demographic breakdown on how the stimulus was used…
As Ann Coulter says, some people associate the Grateful Dead with hippies; I associate them with lacrosse players from Connecticut.
For those who weren’t there, the Deadhead scene was a Whitopia par excellence, scumbag hippies and petty criminals notwithstanding.
“It’s like living in a bad dream. Are there no adults in the room?”
Well that’s a pretty hilarious complaint. After having spent the past 50 years aggressively chasing all the [gentile] adults out of the room, you now whine about the ship of fools you’re on? K.M.R.I.A.
In the meantime, speaking of bad dreams, here’s the opposite, an actual good dream…..
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/01/goodbye-to-gina-lollobrigida.html
Like you types are fond of saying: Never again!
Reminds me of an old expression regarding the payment of tribute:
“And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.”
-Rudyard Kipling
Even if a payment is made for so-called reparations, it will never, ever end. The calls for more and more tribute will continue.
The Deadhead scene was also about pushing LSD provided by the CIA to test it and create a controlled counter-culture.
https://healthland.time.com/2012/03/23/the-legacy-of-the-cias-secret-lsd-experiments-on-america/
So if area median income is $97k in well-off SF, that’s gross pay of $4.462 million if you worked from your 21st birthday to full retirement age at 67 (not including early jobs like I had caddying, mowing lawns, record store clerk and bartending).
That proposal is giving someone a lump sum of more than the median San Franciscan earns in a lifetime of work. Before taxes (federal state local, sales cap gains, gas taxes, fees and licenses etc).
No, there are no adults in the room. The political class is the worst combination of stupid and evil. The elites are engaged in the penultimate act of a dying Empire: the looting of the Treasury.
Of course, the ultimate aim is to instil in America an Indian style caste system or mediaeval European style feudal system – with white Americans playing the part of the serfs and blacks the Brahmins or robber barons, according to system.
Of course, the bottom orders of the pyramids in those two systems were initially composed of the descendants of indigenous populations who were defeated by force and fire by the conquerors, who promptly placed themselves at the apex.
In the modern USA, of course, wars of conquest are won by the weakest and most pathetic, those who can cry ‘victim!’ the loudest. In the anti Nietzschean reality of modern America, the weak are the strong and the strong the weak. Likewise, you will find at least half the white population of the USA will fight – and kill! – fellow whites to impose white dalitdom on America. Hell, they would gladly slit the throat of their first born sons if the black power lobby requested. Unlike Abraham, no voice of God would still their hands. They’d do it, gladly and fanatically, the moment the demand was uttered.
The songs from the Dead’s Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty albums, such as Uncle John’s Band, Casey Jones, Truckin‘, or Friend of the Devil have some of the whitest lyrics ever written.
Only 85%? Who’d the other 15% vote for? Pol Pot?
Would you kill someone for $5 million? How about $97,000?
We might want to start asking blacks questions like this before we start flooding their communities with cash. Reparations could be a bloodbath.
If it will stop the bellyaching, the amount is fair.
Reparations are nonsense and everyone knows it. Just a tactic to keep the negros riled up.
An army of grifters would descend on Frisco to relieve the recipients of their windfall. They might end up like those Osage Indians in Oklahoma who found themselves sitting on an ocean of oil wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders
Within 5 years, every last penny of the $5 million would be all squandered.
T’was set in stone from the outset: those who would feign higher morality will get hoist with own petard.
Gotta admit though, the oncoming tragedy if truly horrific, it’s all somewhat literarily joyously ironic, if not laughably magnificent!
As Brock Purdy lights up the skyways down on the shitways, formerly known as the streets of San Francisco, the omega man has targeted the infected in the glow of his night vision for some long due retribution, at least hailing back to Magnum Force and the best of Clint Eastwood as “Dirty” Harry Callahan.
You know what’s happening there is happening here, there, and everywhere in all the formerly White nations?
Of course you do!
Yet you’ll never join the dots on account of the fact this medium needs constant unresolved turmoil to sluice the juices of home repairs, taxes, 3 meals per day and summer holidays.
As it is, as it was, and as it always will be.
Let’s open a Bentley dealership.
Ben Franklin saw it coming.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
Our modern version includes distracting
the citizenrythose not in the Club while the voting continues.Haha, no. They’re really that stupid. They have raised the unquenchable appetite of black gibs against the unpayable budget of the collapsing state. It is as if Odysseus shot the Strait of Messina by aiming directly down the gullets of both Scylla and Charybdis.
As I once asked:
And don’t worry, once the Deep State rids themselves of the turbulent Biden and appoints Newsom El Presidente, we’ll get the national version of this.
Private colleges are getting to be the same way. I am convinced a big part of the reason Oberlin refused to settle with the Gibson family was that their board was full of zealots and they didn’t have a voice of reason on it. There is no one in these groups who can put the breaks on the insanity and now that they are all diverse, any white person who brings it up is committing career suicide.
The frustrating thing is, there are those who will say that reparations are too absurd to ever happen. But just consider how things will look twenty or thirty years down the road when Democrats inhabit virtually every office, whether federal, state, or local, either by function of demographics or theft, or a combination of both. So, things are going to turn out more reasonably in 2053 than they are in 2023? That’s not how it works.
Yes, your children and grandchildren will be slaves, unless a total Separation or a total collapse happens.
OJ Simpson gets 5 million dollars under this plan.
Shirley, you can’t be serious. First, you lied that Heller was a “precedent” that ruled on guns in schools. Next, you falsely equated store owners having the choice to ban guns in their stores with the government preemptively banning guns in all non-posted stores. Dishonest “adults” like you deserve gruesome infanticide.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-de-policed-los-angeles-is-an-armed-los-angeles/#comment-5763621 (#114)
Most of that was due to Garcia’s collaboration with his lyricist, Robert Hunter. No Robert Hunter, no Grateful Dead. He and Garcia created peak Americana musical genre.
Too bad Jerry couldn’t shake the heroin and unhealthy habits; 53 is way too young.
OT – wealthy heiress meets black guy, stops using social media, has his baby, abandons burning car on motorway and vanishes – with boyfriend.
https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/disappearance-aristocrat-former-tatler-girl-constance-marten-b1053260.html
It has to be said this is a cracking story, especially when the family has “previous”.
As the psychiatrist said of Fawlty Towers, “there’s enough material here for a whole conference”.
And what’s not to like about that?
I’ll take it even furthur (couldn’t resist). The Dead were actively apolitical; they regularly turned down interviewers’ attempts to draw them into political discussions, and denied activists time on their stage. Whatever their individual belief were, they worked pretty hard to keep them out of the music and their career.
Jerry Garcia is on record complaining specifically about Jerry Rubin trying to weasel his way on stage (Garcia actually compares Rubin and his crowd to Nazis).
I mean, if you’re a bunch of iconic SF hippies in the late 60s who not only doesn’t protest the war but doesn’t even want to comment about it or share a stage with people who do… that’s a fairly strong stand.
Would’ve been nice if he could have shaken those habits. But Jerry was Jerry. If Jerry had had the health habits of say Bob Weir (still looking great and doing hard workouts) Jerry would’ve been a completely different person and not the same person he was musically.
“We can share the women, we can share the wine,
We can share what we got of yours,
‘Cause we done shared all of mine.”
And “hustle” is just what it is–a great 70’s term by the way.
“Out on the street, hustlin.” i.e. devising unethical schemes to separate someone else from their money was actually looked upon by the hustler (and his girlfriend) as having a “real job”, gainful employment.
I worry about my family, my own kids and their kids, I assume my mum and dad are like me and have no thoughts for themselves but me and ,my kids, and I assume my boys and girls will likewise devote every thought and waking hour to theirs and likewise so on ad infinitum.
There’s an entire industry dedicated to killing my kids, roping them into wars and having themselves be pharmaceutically experimented on, while being judged, JUDGED, the result of mass deaths of our own experimented on in Vietnam to other theatres, to produce in us the desired reflex response.
Was taken to a Dead show in the early 90’s. They had Wynton Marsalis on the stage with them. Noticed that except for stadium vendors and the like he might’ve had the only black face in the arena.
Bruce shows also had almost no crossover appeal. Clarence pretty much up there by himself.
The state of California had a commission that came up with a similar multi-trillion dollar proposal for the whole state. No one has any clue where the money would come from, but in reality these are partially just political Kabuki.
The real purpose is a) cash payouts to political supporters; members of these sorts of commissions and consultants have collected millions in fees for their “work” b) mollifying Blacks and Liberals by being able to point to the fact you had these commissions and c) although no one can come up with that kind of money recommended, you can still use the commission report to justify all manner of other payouts, affirmative action, and anti-White bigotry.
It’s an elaborate joke. As the last whites finish their meal, they tell the blacks dining with them that they can order anything they want—“don’t worry about the price, you’ve earned it”—before sneaking out and leaving the Hispanics at the table with the final bill.
(only listen to the first 1.45 minutes of this song, it’s pure genius, the rest is like the entire album otherwise intense agony, best not indulged)
For my beautiful girl this Saturday, you’ll say “I do”.
I love you so much, you know I do.
I get a kick of out these bat-shit crazy schemes. I hope it becomes law and they have to figure out how to administer the nutty, unworkable farce.
It happened here last year; The town-council, similarly worthless parasites, malcontents and dufuses (dufi?) as these Frisco clowns, passed a law giving everyone working in the city a 50 percent raise for hazard pay and defined The Chinese Bio-Weapon as a hazard. Oops! Watching them backpedal when the time came to force business to pay was a lot of fun. Watching the fools who were looking forward to the 50 percent bump eating ashes was sweet, too.
Was this scripted or off the cuff? I’m pretty sure Joe Biden isn’t coming up with critical analysis like this based on his own deep reading and research. Do we know who is feeding him these ideas?
I was listening to Chicago’s WIND-AM 560 this morning and Dan Proft had on John Lott to discuss Pritzker’s so-called Assault Weapon Ban.
John Lott said that Brandon has filled up the lower courts with people (gun controllers) and that Clarence Thomas being 74y/o may yet create a position for POTUS to fill to the detriment of the Second Amendment.
As for the IL courts (All judges in IL are anti-gun I say.), Proft mentions that TWO of the IL Supreme Court judges had received money from Billionaire Pritzker.
So beware of the courts when your gun rights have been destroyed by the Cosmopolitans and thinking they support individual’s RKBA.
No there are not any adults in the room on this, just like when people like you are discussing Russia or Jews.
OK, I’ll buy that. It’s still wrong and ridiculous that this is happening, but it least it makes some kind of sense and is not like something out of Alice in Wonderland.
Not having people carrying guns in stores is not some sort of dystopian nightmare. NY had the Sullivan Law for 110 years which effectively made it impossible for 99% of the population to get a concealed carry permit so that they could bring a gun into a store or school or anywhere else and yet NY was not some kind of authoritarian nightmare. It had a lower crime rate than many cities with more liberal gun laws. The state was not ruled by tyrants (any more than any other blue state). Most people didn’t even know or care about the Sullivan Law. 2A advocates oversell the benefits of carry.
This latest (insane) demand will help move things in that direction.
As it does more and more will come to realize something not a few of us are already well aware of, ie; that whites have suffered far more under the hands of blacks, et al. in the 50+ years then blacks ever did in the last 400. Not only that, but while whites were suffering, they were paying, in the form of taxation, $20+ trillion in black gibs.
On a personal note: Over the past year I’ve been able to mention the above to normie left family and friends without a problem and in a way I never could at any time before that (without an argument or a “Let’s agree to disagree”). P.S. I know normie left sounds like an oxymoron. But they’re not all froth at the mouth fanatics.
Do these California politicians know something that most people are afraid to accept? The US Dollar is going down. Promises in Dollars are worthless in even the medium run.
But Gallivornia can’t print its own dollars so they have to get the timing of the dollar collapse right. The feral govt. can print its own dollars ….
UPDATE – the Paper Of Record
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11649461/Convicted-sex-offender-Mark-Gordon-partner-Constance-Marten-hunted-police.html
As Lincoln said in his second inaugural, “until every dollar not lent with the redline shall be paid by another drawn with the sword.”
I heard a concert after work in back in ’95 I think — one of Jerry Garcia’s last performances. I wasn’t in the stadium but above it on one of Seattle’s hills and the music floated up to me as clear as a bell. It was enchanting.
I was friends with some deadhead hippies. Back then it was still a scene. I actually liked them. Some of the hippie girls were quite attractive, or would have been with a good bath and a little trimming.
But I look back at that and there was something tragic and Dionysian about the whole thing. It was seductive and spiritually enervating. Beautiful, but like a wilting rose. The band named itself well. The album cover art was also spot on.
To me the Grateful Dead is the best example of how music can be masterful and alluring and all the more spiritually hazardous because of it.
Thank you 23 and Me. That . 001 percent west African result really paid off.
San Francisco that was a nice start but I’ve already spent most of my reparations money. Will need more. Speed up those future payments.
Perhaps, the reparations could be paid in Zimbabwean currency.
The problem with the “$5 million? Are these people serious?” response is that they most certainly ARE serious. It’s not like a more reasonable person thinks a smaller amount is appropriate. Reasonable people know that they the only appropriate amount is $0.
If someone cares enough to propose a number, they are serious enough to demonstrate that they expect to be paid. They aren’t interested in reparations or justice, those are merely the means to the end.
Sounds like they want the program to go on until all the gas stoves are gone.
Yep, it’s demonstrative of both black self-conceit and the minoritarian craziness of our age, that a “commission” goes off and then doesn’t even try to come up with some remotely plausible proposal.
There is in fact a quite workable “reparations” proposal that would help out blacks quite a bit:
Close the borders. Stop immigration.
As I pointed out to Jack yesterday being an American is the most valuable asset that most Americans possess:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-white-woman-was-murdered-by-a-black-gay-crazyman-for-saying-she-was-going-out-in-the-field/#comment-5765112
And this is even moreso for blacks who tend to fare very poorly in the world labor market. Even in the South blacks are getting moved from “2nd banana” to 3rd banana by the Latino influx. An employer will likely find some FOB bozo from Turkmenistan to be a superior worker. Heck, even Africans. American blacks are quite a bit smarter than the median African. But the ones who get here–excepting the Somali refugee disaster/scam–tend to be selected for smarts/hustle to get themselves out of Africa.
American (ADOS) blacks’ ancestors were dragged here in slavery. American blacks don’t deserve anything extra for that–they are beneficiaries of that by being here. But at least–if they behave– they ought to be able to claim that benefit.
Third World people = Third World politics. It actually makes perfect sense.
LOL.
That must be why they made this TV movie on ordinary NYC residents who are explicitly told they CAN’T get a GUN by the cops and tough shit about surviving.
Sorry, no complete movie link as it was removed from YT after being mentioned here.
Yea, the only way I can fathom anyone making this sort of recommendation is for political points or for an attempt to set a negotiation starting point. So, it’s politically disgusting in addition to just being ludicrous. Politicians can point to it, say they support it, and thus gain votes from their less educated rubes. Or down the road, someone can claim that reparations in the tens of thousands of dollars is a bargain compared to what this commission says they’re *really* owed. The risk of such a statement, though, is revealing to the general public the true absurdity and self-serving nature of the entire endeavor.
We guys do lots of dumb stuff ourselves. And obviously plenty of guys make bad decisions about women.
But really. What the heck is wrong with white women these days? How stupid can you get?
Women really do need explicit societal direction about “proper” and “appropriate” behavior or apparently a good tranche of them just can not figure out even the most obvious stuff.
…Hippies? Is that what they’re calling Jews nowadays?
I’m fine with reparations to blacks, provided they stipulate two rules:
1. They must be paid in cash, lump-sum.
2. They must be collected in person, either at the NorCal distribution center in Salinas or the SoCal distribution center in East LA.
If anybody knows what will REALLY happen with reparations, it’s that prominent citizen of midwestern Ohio.
Yes, fitting too. The version of Jack Straw (from Wichita) from the Europe ’72 album – a half century ago! – is my very favorite.
Every time I read something about that UK ex-Home Secretary Jack Straw, this song comes into my head for a day or two. That guitar solo, then … Leaving Texas, fourth day of July … sun so hot, the clouds are low, the eagles filled the sky-eye-eye… Beautiful!
No, they’ll be US rather than ex-Rhodesian dollars but same general idea, yes.
And good luck with your application, 0.001 percenter!
Booze had more to do with Jerry Garcia’s death.
Absolutely – smart people will position themselves to take advantage of this.
As long as it’s confined to a relatively limited part of the country and the public gets the chance to see it fail, OK. If we end up with a national push where a number of states or large cities decide to tie this millstone around their necks and jump into the pond we are all in a lot of trouble.
I would say what’s happening in the U.K. Is even more insidious than the U.S., and I’m an American! I’m used to blacks being shoved down our throats in every commercial, movie, and institution, but it seems like what’s going on in the U.K. is somehow worse; maybe it’s because they have no constitution to even offer them a bit of protection? Make no mistake, our lefty politicians wipe their a$% with our constitution on a daily basis, but it still does slightly limit the craziness they try to push; maybe that’s the small difference between the two countries.
Jerry was not a drinker. It was all about opiates and cocaine, as well as cigarettes and a terrible diet. And of course LSD in the earlier years.
You might be confusing him with the late great Ron “Pigpen” McKernan.
Looking to capitalize on it and try to punch my ticket out of this crazy country, my first thought was “Is Foot Locker a publicly traded company!”
Branford Marsalis, not Wynton. The latter being a jazz purist who frowned on his brother’s dalliances with rock musicians.
You were very fortunate to catch one of Branford’s guest spots with the GD. He fit in perfectly and inspired Jerry.
Completely unrelated, but wow: America’s National Debt reached $30 trillion, which is over 20% larger than the entire GDP. Also, last year was the 42nd consecutive year of America running ~$850 billion annually. Things are getting to a point where the entire federal budget cannot even service the *interest* of the National Debt.
Also: inflation is officially “only” 7%, but that is only because the FED disingenuously changed the measuring rate to account for the annual variation to trimester variation. If you measure inflation by the same method used during the 70’s, the actualy inflation rate is currently at 17% and will reach at least 22% this year. This is the worst inflation rate *ever* .It makes the stagflation of the 70’s seem mild in comparison. It’s almsot Argentina level bad.
Another thing: in the 70’s, America still had about 30% of the World’s manufacturing, and this served to “cushion” the blow to the U.S Dollar value in the global market. But now, America is a wortthless financial services economy that produces nothing.
Folks, we are wittnessing the end of the U.S.A as a global economic power and the end of the U.S Dollar as the World’s reserve currency. America’s “exorbitant privilege” is about to end after 78 years. Everybody in the market knows that America’s next collapse will be the worse *ever* . Yes, worse than the 1929 crash.
Imagine a World where America actually has to pay for foreign goods with *material* goods instead of paper Dollars. Imagine a World where Americans have to pay 2 or even 3 X more for gas because the oil barrel is no longer quoted in U.S Dollars.(petrodollars).
This is the end, people. The end. The next crisis will be much worse than the 1987 crash, and worse than the 1929 crash. Imagine severe economic contraction(depression) mixed with Argentina-level of inflation. When you add this to the fact that Americans are more divided now than at any other time since the Civil War, the country might not survive it.
You are extremely mistaken. No GD member ever was a member of the California National Guard let alone help put down the Watts riots. They were all living in the Peninsula and just starting to get the band, at that time called The Warlocks, off the ground in the summer of 1965.
I heard someone on tv say: African Americans are the poorest demographic group in America and the richest African demographic in the world.
I wonder if that is true/
Curious to know who that was.
@SFG
One of the Founders of the Dead helped put down the Watts riots as a member of the California National Guard. How many people here have done anything that useful?
I’m curious to know who that was.
My read is that, since Cali and the Bay Area in particular are one party states, this is an intra-Democratic Party positioning exercise. Who will prove to be the most important constituency? And while black people are numerically smaller than Latinos (and other groups are growing), they remain the moral center of the Democratic Party. That is a powerful position given the amount of virtue signaling done by progressives.
“But really. What the heck is wrong with white women these days? How stupid can you get?”
In the immortal words of Heartiste, “chicks dig jerks”. Look at this beauty chasing the bad-boy tingles. Doesn’t every woman want a bouncer with “ACAB” and an inverted crucifix tattooed on their face 😉
Note from the report that he had another woman weeping for him in court.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11486369/Bouncer-jailed-killing-British-heiress-girlfriend-Switzerland-18-year-sentence-increased.html
The way I see it is the Sixties was an extended temper tantrum by kids who had not been spanked enough times for defiant disobedience. They were spoiled by parents who didn’t teach them about the value of delayed gratification or if you really want something you’ll work for it.
“… the only plan left for blacks is “equity”: i.e., taxing away the home equity of whites.”
Ain’t happenin’!
To paraphrase Woodward’s comment about Watergate “follow the loopholes.”
Which means, of course, that the money will be gotten the old-fashioned way–by borrowing it.
Probably from China.
“C’est plus change” etc. etc.
You know full well it won’t.
All it will do is to encourage even further more outrageous demands.
I had for a (too) short period a very beautiful girlfriend who was mad about Robert Hunter and the Dead. She used to quote the lines about “whatever became of sweet Jane” (her name), as she herself was pretty fond of various narcotics.
Alas I think the Polaroids were destroyed many years ago by her successor.
“And are the Asians, and Latinos pleased by such Democrat reparation proposals?”
Not to mention all the other members of the ever-expanding “Coalition of The Fringes.”
I think you know where this is going.
Completely unrelated, but wow: America’s National Debt reached $30 trillion, which is over 20% larger than the entire GDP. Also, last year was the 42nd consecutive year of America running ~$850 billion annually. Things are getting to a point where the entire federal budget cannot even service the *interest* of the National Debt.
Also: inflation is officially “only” 7%, but that is only because the FED disingenuously changed the measuring rate to account for the annual variation to trimester variation. If you measure inflation by the same metod used during the 70’s, the actualy inflation rate is currently at 17% and will reach at least 22% this year. This is the worst inflation rate *ever* .It makes the stagflation of the 70’s seem mild in comparison. It’s almsot Argentina level bad.
Another thing: in the 70’s, America still had about 30% of the World’s manufacturing, and this served to “cushion” the blow to the U.S Dollar value in the global market. But now, America is a wortthless financial services economy that produces nothing.
Folks, we are wittnessing the end of the U.S.A as a global economic power and the end of the U.S Dollar as the World’s reserve currency. American’s “exorbitant privilege”. Everybody in the market knows that America’s next collapse will be the worse *ever* . Yes, worse than the 1929 crash.
Imagine a World where America actually has to pay for foreign goods with *material* goods instead of paper Dollars. Imagine a World where Americans have to pay 2 or even 3 X more for gas because the oil barrel is no longer quoted in U.S Dollars.(petrodollars).
This is the end, people. The end. The next crisis will be much worse than the 1987 crash, and worse than the 1929 crash. Imagine severe economic contraction(depression) mixed with Argentina-level of inflation. When you add this to the fact that Americans are more divided now than at any other time since the Civil War, the country might not survive it.
I wonder if they could get the Grateful Dead back together, perhaps with Lyle Lovett as the frontman.
https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/bob-weir-lyle-lovett-friend-of-the-devil-etown-anniversary/
$5 Million each to so many people — this could end up being hundreds of billions. Where will San Francisco get the money? If they try to get it from corporations, they’ll move.
I don’t think that they’ll actually be able to pay that much.
Putting the idea in people’s heads that they are about to become millionaires, and then not being able to follow through, could end up being dangerous.
Well, a hilariously bad, obscure made for TV movie from 1978 settles it for sure. This movie is so old and out of touch that they made the bad guy Black and the hero a white guy – can you imagine that?
I hope their remains are found soon.
Not really OT:
As I write this, there is an amusing and highly revelatory juxtaposition of headlines running on CNBC.
Amazon, Meta and Google buy more clean energy than any other companies.
And,
Microsoft, Amazon and other tech companies have laid off more than 60,000 employees in the last year.
I suppose the irony was lost on the web editors, as well as on most of the audience.
It’s rather odd that lady londongirl doesn’t seem to know what’s going on , they are taking her country ,you would think a Brit would understand that.
Egg prices now are due to avian flu mostly.
Sail Away by Randy Newman.
Maybe this will trigger republicans and others to take the mittens off and play hardball. The solution? Sue, sue, and sue them more. Demand reparations for the billions wasted on welfare and other programs for blacks. And TRILLIONS caused by black criminality.
I think many blacks who receive reparations actually would not remain in a small, dangerous-neighborhood apartment, and use the money to buy bling. Instead, they will buy a nice $200,000 home in a red state, red small city. Metaphor alert. The impact upon the Chardon, Ohio H.S. basketball team is not hard to guess.
The average per capita income of seven nations on the west coast of Africa is 1260. The figure for the USA is $70,930.
Let’s assume that slavery 158 years ago is the sole reason for blacks in the US to be less wealthy than whites. If their average GDP is only half of the US average, they are still doing 28 times better than if slavery had not resulted in their being here today.
Now some blacks are quite poor, so let’s give anyone whose income and wealth are less than it would be if they lived in present-day West Africa enough money to make up the difference. (“Income” includes welfare payments, rent subsidies, Medicaid, Medicare, EBT (food stamps), SSI, public education, earned income tax credit, and child care. And let’s charge any black whose income and wealth are above the average in present-day West Africa the difference in payment for all the financial advantages they have by living here instead of there.
Completely unrelated, but wow: America’s National Debt reached $30 trillion, which is over 20% larger than the entire GDP. Also, last year was the 42nd consecutive year of America running ~$850 billion annually. Things are getting to a point where the entire federal budget cannot even service the *interest* of the National Debt.
Also: inflation is officially “only” 7%, but that is only because the FED disingenuously changed the measuring rate to account for the annual variation to trimester variation. If you measure inflation by the same metod used during the 70’s, the actualy inflation rate is currently at 17% and will reach at least 22% this year. This is the worst inflation rate *ever* .It makes the stagflation of the 70’s seem mild in comparison. It’s almsot Argentina level bad.
Another thing: in the 70’s, America still had about 30% of the World’s manufacturing, and this served to “cushion” the blow to the U.S Dollar value in the global market. But now, America is a wortthless financial services economy that produces nothing.
Folks, we are wittnessing the end of the U.S.A as a global economic power and the end of the U.S Dollar as the World’s reserve currency. American’s “exorbitant privilege”. Everybody in the market knows that America’s next collapse will be the worse *ever* . Yes, worse than the 1929 crash.
Imagine a World where America actually has to pay for foreign goods with *material* goods instead of paper Dollars. Imagine a World where Americans have to pay 2 or even 3 X more for gas because the oil barrel is no longer quoted in U.S Dollars.(petrodollars).
This is the end, people. The end. The next crisis will be much worse than the 1987 crash, and worse than the 1929 crash. Imagine severe economic contraction(depression) mixed with Argentina-level of inflation. When you add this to the fact that Americans are more divided now than at any other time since the Civil War, the country might not survive it. ..
“posh Evanston, Illinois”
Used to be posh. Now you have to keep your head on a swivel, just like everywhere else.
“Criticism might encourage [blacks] to behave better”
That’s never worked. Just causes chimpouts. They’re canny, bold, and shameless enough to know that once they start screaming menacingly “Whassup? Whatchu got?” for five minutes straight, the argument is over and they won. After they win, they trash the place for good measure. Criticize a black to his/her face? You go first, Steve.
Didn’t mention Sheila Jackson-Lee, so I will: imagine how hellish it must be to work under her.
What will the white population of CA be in 250 yrs? Less than 10%?
Steal land from Mexico and wipe out the Indians. And then make Mexicans, Asians, and other groups(mostly nonwhite) pay reparations to blacks for what whites in the deep south did. Btw, are Mexicans, Asians, Arabs, etc. dumb or cowardly enough to go along with this?
Whites sure can be the scum of the earth.
I’ve wondered if Jerry and Hunter knew about California’s Workingmen’s Party. But of course they did.
Lesh said that WD had lyrics that evoked ‘old, weird America.’ Now where have I heard that phrase again?
I think the readers here would get a kick out of this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/17/7eleven-classical-music-austin-texas/
Negroes have been getting de facto reparations totaling in the trillions since the 1960’s. Has the bellyaching gotten quieter, or louder?
China owns less than $1 trillion in U.S. publically held debt. Japan owns more. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
Sorry but inheriting £250,000 on a life insurance policy does not make you an “heiress” except in British tabloid speak. “Chicks” do not dig chav jerks. Trash is attracted to trash. My daughter is a “chick” and she would not get within 5 miles of a man like Schatzle and neither would any of her friends. Heartiste is full of shit and his advice is good only if you want to pick up trash. 18 years is way too little for murder – this guy should do life without parole or better yet a death sentence.
Workingman’s Dead has a great bluegrassy song called The Cumberland Blues. I recently read a book called Night Comes to the Cumberlands, from about that era, and I would be surprised if the song wasn’t inspired by that book.
Then, too, there are loads of Biblical references in Dead songs, including a whole song, Samson and Delilah. It was a different time, you understand … women were smarter … and men were too.
OK, well, here ya’ go:
Gotta get down to the Cumberland Mine.
(Gotta get down to the Cumberland Mine.)
That’s where I mainly spend my time.
Make good money, five dollars a day.
Made anymore, I might move away …
Lotta poor man got the Cumberland Blues.
He can’t win for losin.’
Lotta poor man got to walk the line
just to pay his union dues.
I don’t know now, I just don’t know
If I’m goin’ back again.
That was depressing enough the first coupla times, but still, that’s what I’ve been saying for years now. Only here:
It’s not, YET. That’s because the “net interest rate” on the debt has been around 1.1%, per last year’s IRS 1040 tax instruction pie charts. At that rate, interest is still in the 5-6% of the budget expenditure range.
However, that’s why the FED can’t let interest rates rise to a natural, actual price-of-money, level. Imagine rates at 7%. The interest would be 35% of expenditures and an even bigger piece of the income pie, seeing as income is only 3/4 of expenditures… on a good year!
One more thing you didn’t mention, ZP, is that American don’t live the lives they did during G.D. 1.0, when 30% or so lived on the farm. Most Americans are going to be clueless as to how to deal with the major economic pain coming.
I was thinking that this may be a setup for the forthcoming United States Supreme Court opinion outlawing racial preferences in college admissions.
So we’ll have this pre-existing fabric of forthcoming reparations payments, but uh-oh, here comes the Supreme Court invalidates this idea just like it did to abortion.
So then we can have all the states claim that they really support reparations but the doggone Supreme Court laid a turd in the punch bowl and spoiled the party.
The use of ‘Cali’ to refer to anything but the city in Columbia should be a hanging offense.
I agree – thanks for bringing up the Gibson Bakery case.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson’s_Bakery_v._Oberlin_College
Solution: instead of dollars, pay (n)egroes in ‘de facto respect.’
The current bout of inflation is supply side driven, not demand based. It’s also being driven by tighter labor market and rising wages.
The fact that a lot of the immigration restrictionist right is complaining about inflation after just a couple years of slight respite from the decades of disinflationary labor supply flooding immigration leads me to believe that genuine economic populism will never be fully embraced by the right.
The full movie is available online, in eight parts.
Prologue:
https://my.mail.ru/bk/kapust1945/video/610/27011.html
Act 1:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/168720.html
Act 2:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/168721.html
Act 3:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/137808.html
Act 4:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/137809.html
Act 5:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/137810.html
Act 6:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/137811.html
Act 7 (end):
https://my.mail.ru/mail/vm_gluschenko/video/74066/137812.html
Nice regurgitation of the prevailing propaganda. Are you getting paid for this? In cheap dollars?
I used to think the tide will turn. After reading the essays published here by Jung-Freud, I’ve come to realize Jewish power is deliberately pushing in a progressive direction to eliminate the threat of a white populist majority. The tide can’t ever turn without naming the responsible group and pushing back against the group.
Now that was fun! Way to go Johnny!
Were Blacks actually oppressed by slavery? Or did they benefit from slavery? Compare their condition under White governance to their condition in Africa.
‘Nice regurgitation of the prevailing propaganda. Are you getting paid for this? In cheap dollars?’
Indeed. I cannot believe that people either refuse to grasp or pretend to be unable to grasp that increasing the supply of money without increasing the output of goods and services will cause inflation.
That’s not even Econ 1. That’s just understanding what money is. It’s like…fuck me. What are we supposed to do with these assholes?
How does that cushion the dollar?
Because negroes show so much respect for anything? They murder themselves by the thousands every year.
Here’s a solution: Surrender yourself to the nearest narcotics rehabilitation facility.
Please: brakes.
LOL. Seriously though, I am thinking if that if reparations seem likely, buying up luxury brand and athletic apparel stock is not a bad play at all.
Even absent that, it’s probably not a bad idea as our overlords increasingly look to rub their dominance in everyone else’s faces as inflation eats away at the middle class standard of living.
Jerry Garcia was Jewish?
Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona Bay.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=tool%20%C3%A6nema%20lyrics&qs=ds&form=QBRE
If a Supreme Court can find a right to an abortion in the Constitution; the sure as hell they can deem a
“well regulated militia” to be the National Guard.
Dear Brother Achmed,
Well, America does continually exceed peak stupidity (is there an Olympic sport for the same? No? Is that just because it kills the participants?)
But who are our competitors? China just announced that their deaths exceed their births. And all those couples that birthed their one child “social security” do not want them to die in some meat grinder war for “Greater China”. They need them to care for them in their dotage. The Chinese mandate of heaven might drive Xi to a precipitous war – we cannot dismiss that possibility. But their prospects are grim. Their mode of motivation is “work hard, no, work much harder, or we will kill you.”
No one else is in the same class as China.
We know that amplifying the downside elicits minimal performance. Our system, with all its rent-seeking whoredom, and its disgusting crony “capitalism,” still has pockets of private property protection, the rule of law, and the honest delivery of justice. Those interstices are our hope.
We have better communications, savvier proponents, and greater transmission autonomy than our predecessors. We have fewer genuine Christians, it is true. And we are faced with the Left’s perversion of Christian virtue, it is also true. But a remnant is all that is necessary to win the day.
The Scriptures teach us this truth. You know all these things, Brother Achmed. Perhaps you have forgotten because you are busy.
We will win. The open question is how much pain, loss, and sorrow we will needlessly suffer to achieve that victory.
The end of history was written two millennia ago. We know the outcome. We do not know how much it will hurt.
Hippies (peoperly understood) were apolitical. At least the Dead were. The Airplane, not so much.
I can’t believe this. Steve Sailer posts a story that should give us all the chills and what do many of you do? Debate the frigging grateful dead. No wonder Whites are gettung their asses kicked everywhere you look.
One of the grooviest songs ever. And I mean that in the best way possible.
That was the Dead’s response to criticism from late ’60’s’ wokesters that the Dead were sexist. Absolutely classic.
Yes, that’s three apostrophes.
There isn’t any “rationale”.
This is just the moral “logic” of minoritarianism. “We’re oppressed” is the story. Blacks–their story, slavery, Jim Crow, etc.–has been the cudgel for beating white gentiles. “You’re oppressive. Ergo illegitimate. Ergo it’s not you’re country … it’s ours. And don’t talk back to us…. racist!”
This went into hyper-drive during 2020. Lots of reasons but basically a bunch of Jews had really thought the whole thing was completely baked, when suddenly those uppity flyover deplorables elected Trump–saying vaguely soft-nationalist and anti-immigration things. And–per usual–they started hearing jackboots clicking on the pavement and stoked their hysteria. (God knows their world would end if America actually had borders and acted like a normal country.) So come Saint George’s OD … it was full on America is oppressive and illegitimate and don’t even try and question it, you racist, Nazi, deplorable white man!
But these things have a logic. So … reparations for the great sins of whitey. And who you gonna put on the commission? Blacks. Blacks who’ve been coddled with hosannas and bullshit public sector/public-sector funded sinecures. So they come up with ridiculous proposals. Why not? Go big, put a marker out there.
It’s not that the Democrats actually want that. They don’t want to be “the black party”, they just need black votes. But there’s a “logic” to all the minoritarian oppression propaganda and this is where it leads. It is a bit of pickle, but not much of one. They’ll be chatter and more chatter and commissions and b.s.–and of course plenty of “programs” and crap shoveled toward blacks. But nothing even within a couple orders of magnitude of this is going to happen. Blacks don’t run the show, they’re field hands–a vote bank.
1) as the dollar declined then USA- made goods became more competitive domestically and internationally. As late as 1980 USA ran a surplus in manufactured goods.
2) NOT SURE if the USA manufacturing profile is disastrous. I think that , with attention , much of the manufacturing is reversible
3) during Covid crisis of 2020 the USA reliance on Chinese made pharma— drugs off patent protection , antibiotics in addition to PPE surprised me.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if people like Bret Stephens, Mark Potok and Jonathan Greenblatt, binge watch videos like this while munching on rugelach. Holy Shnitzel.
I hate getting old! It was in a review in Reason magazine, iirc it was Hunter. May have been another member. I remember thinking how weird it was.
Robert Hunter was one of the band’s two main lyricists but was never a band member. Wikipedia says that he was indeed briefly a member of the National Guard but this was well before the Watts riots.
You would have something like the DC Zip code Hillary Clinton moved into when entering the Senate. “A river runs through it.” Or something. (And maybe it’s the ward, not the Zip, I’m thinking of.) Anyway, it’s pretty segregated. 75% white, diversity to one side.
Oh, and “Guess what” is not a question, but an imperative.
That was a Dave Chapelle skit about 20 years ago…
One fellow left Moby Grape to join the Marines. During the Vietnam War.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Mosley
How many bands featured two certified schizophrenes?
“A best alternative to a negotiated agreement (BATNA) is a course of action that a party engaged in negotiations has determined should be taken if talks fail and no agreement can be reached.”
Sports salaries in the US exploded after the baseball players association hired grizzled labor lawyer Marvin Miller.
The BATNA to the negro proposal is literally anything. They have no plan, no strategy. But this lays out what they think. Namely, there suffering was so enormous, no amount of reparations would suffice.
They are only 13% of the population.
Frankly, if they had produced something or anything that would be preferable to nothing, I would seriously worry. Once you enter into negotiations…
Of course Samson & Delilah was a cover song, written by Rev. Gary Davis.
Hunter wasn’t a member of the band. He was an affiliated lyricist (and a great one at that).
negrotiations… https://www.nytimes.com/1974/05/12/archives/publishers-tell-itu-dispute-can-be-resolved-by-negotiations-a.html
Blacks wrecked every city East of the Mississippi (and one on the Mississippi itself, St. Louis), starting in earnest in the 1960s. That means a black deficit of trillions owed to whites right there.
This is true.
NYT reports on the 1980 surplus in manufacturing goods (in addition to surplus in services ..)
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/03/20/business/1980-trade-surpluses-reported.html
I’ve probably written more about the real problem than Kevin MacDonald, Jim Bowery, and Raven Taylor Gatto combined.
For Achmed:
In ’83, I saw the Dead at Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland, Maine. Ticket’s face value was $9.50. The Althea was the band’s best ever. Check it out.
China builds the equivalent of the US interstate highway system every five years. That their prospects are grim because in 100 years, they’ll have a population down to 1.2 billion from 1.4 billion is laughable.
One of the more frustrating and stupid things the commies believe is that they built a great location into what it was. E.g. “Everyone loves San Francisco because we created it and we’re so tolerant and progressive!”
No, you showed up late to the party and infested it like the parasites you are, lefties. And every year we see you destroy the host the more.
It’s like those fungi that burrow into the brains of ants, gain control over them, and then use them to do things for the fungi’s health, all the while rotting away the ant’s body.
San Franshitsco.
Half the prisons, home security, car alarms, private security, CCTV, fewer courts, fewer lawyers, fewer social workers etc etc.
We need to have our eyes open to how difficult the near future will be but there is a chance that we will eventually rediscover what made this country great in the past. Being too pessimistic freezes people into immobility. There are plenty of good people in this country and we have a chance to win but not if we give up.
Things, though, are going to have to get worse before they get better. The current system needs to be totally discredited first. It took 70 years for Russia to realize Marxism didn’t work before they started to move away from it. Putin, while bad, is not as bad as Lenin or Stalin. The Chinese, under the pragmatist Deng, also moved away from Marxism. In their case it also took a number of years before it happened. Our ruling elites have adopted harmful policies across a whole range of issues that are unworkable and deny human nature just as Marxism did.
I’m just glad she had the modesty to hold her purse strategically for the photo op. Since she clearly doesn’t believe she needs to clothe herself below the waist. Comes with the territory I suppose.
BTW, chicks dig jerks.
Didn’t Trump flood the federal courts with more judges than the last several presidents?
What is the “real problem”?
Indeed. I cannot believe that people either refuse to grasp or pretend to be unable to grasp that increasing the supply of money without increasing the output of goods and services will cause inflation.
In case you missed it, Milton Friedman isn’t running the show anymore.
Why are Jews trying to eliminate the White majority?
Even better, play opera all day and keep Art Deco at bay!
https://www.unz.com/isteve/no-whites-or-parsis-need-apply/#comment-5739240
Kevin MacDonald, Andrew Joyce, and many others have been writing about this for decades. It’s tribal warfare and whites are the only group forbidden to notice, much less respond.
From a vantage like that, white people haven’t a hope in hell of surviving, much less prevailing.
As I say often around here, no genocide in human history has ever had one-tenth the groundwork laid for it as this one has.
We’re getting just a taste of it now. It won’t be pretty. To respond, we first have to break the bond between white women and mass media propaganda.
Not only were the Dead mostly apolitical (one could say that the whole hippie lifestyle at the time was political) but they had an actual active duty member of the military playing keyboards for them in the 60’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Constanten
Here’s a solution.
Revive the 19th century ‘colonization’ push – by this I mean Liberia, just like Abraham Lincoln promised, but signally failed, to do.
Just the other day I saw a young attractive white girl trailing behind a tall, dreadlocked black dude, who was studiously ignoring his chick, chatting on his cell phone. I see this a lot, white girls following in the wake of their black boyfriend, always in a submissive posture. You’d never see this these days w/a white girl submitting to a white guy in such a way. Society tells them not to submit to white guys, but they still want that so they’ll do it to a black guy because they can tell themselves that they are anti-racist at least. Even though the relationship is degrading to the white girl she can pat her self on the back for being an enlightened anti-racist hero (in her eyes) nonetheless.
AFAIK, Mickey Hart was the only Jew in the Grateful Dead.
Will paying 5 million to every black person in the USA make Washington unable to fund the war machine?
Let’s do it!
I’d rather give millions to black Americans than buy weapons in Ukraine
Remember Ukraine got 4.5 BILLION in just one bill from Congress….
You can’t be white-like and say ‘You gots to works for the monies and gets the educated and pays your taxes’ while at the same time allowing folks in Washington to steal taxpayer dollars to support their Greater Israel project
I’m with the blacks, they are the better investment, less lives will be lost
SF was great well into the 2000s, still had room and rents for the Bohos. Some fairly recent Irish and Russian immigration had produced a little diversity in the monolith of Asian newcomers. Google was just getting going (don’t even know when they moved there) and Facebook didn’t exist. It was in many was a working class, seaport town, as the Anthony Bourdain visit from about a decade and a half ago shows.
Last time I visited, at the tail end of the pandemic, it just seemed dingy and trying too hard (like no restaurant had paper menus, just QR codes on the tables).
Anyways, it had a good run.
white men commit the most violence.
Everyone agrees
That’s the version that won me over, too — I was like, wow, what have I been missing?
When I was growing up, there was this weird artificial, semi-self-imposed class divide that extended itself to music and personal habits: the rich kids smoked dope and listened to the Grateful Dead, and us working-class kids never touched drugs, but we drank a lot of alcohol and listened to harsher-sounding things like Black Sabbath and the Ramones. The Dead were considered icky, sissy stuff. It was like living in your own private John Hughes movie.
Years later, as a grownup who had long since forgotten all this silly territorial nonsense, I was sitting in someone’s car and that tasty guitar lick from “China Cat Sunflower” came on the stereo. I was hypnotized, I was like “What on Earth IS that?!?” Europe 72 is the only Dead record I own, because I kept playing it so compulsively, I never got around to buying another one.
They’re going to be coming for you.
https://newspunch.com/brian-stelter-teams-up-with-wef-to-help-purge-the-internet-of-independent-media/
No one is allowed to notice, hence what’s happened to Kanye and Kyrie.
As for your last sentence, we need to fix white men before we can begin to fix white women.
“My daughter is a “chick” and she would not get within 5 miles of a man like Schatzle and neither would any of her friends. “
Yes, but your daughter will not be representative of the Gentile population. I’ve known a fair few Jewish girls who lived life “close to the edge”, but they’ve all been pretty switched on and lead a comfortable existence now (as in being multiple property owners). There is the odd Amy Winehouse though.
Obviously the Anna Reeds are way over at the end of the female curve. But the advice that “too much a**hole behaviour is better than too little” does seem to have some truth in it.
Unfortunately that isn’t always the case. Decent people fall for real scum sometimes.
..fourteen year old girls AGREE!
…..can you give us a few more options.
,So, you’ve gone long on spinner rims and crystal champagne.
From England in 1290 to Germany in the 1930s, Jewish history is filled with instances of European Christians committing genocide or expelling Jews. Jewish leaders have adopted a strike first strategy based on the estimate that sometime in the next 50 years a white and especially Christian majority will turn anti-Semitic. Tucker Carlson is the biggest worry currently. He is a non-Evangelical Christian who can persuade intelligent white people that globalist private equity vultures are their adversaries. Tucker Carlson will sometime later reveal who the globalists are after years of preparation work.
And how much reading or study has one done of slavery to learn that it was not that bad. Please provide a list of cites that shows that slavery was not that bad. In reality, slavery has been softened by the modern media versus how it was actually practiced.
Speaking as a person who really does suffer from clinically-diagnosed bipolar depressive disorder, which I think is really more accurately described as manic-depression, it seems to me as a matter of personal observation that a great deal of black cumulative behavior is just collective manic depression writ large. Black collective hypomania is quite obvious, and black inability to simply “maintain” up to par in a recognizable fashion is an obvious symptom of severe depression.
How and why this has come to pass is a matter for serious debate, but frankly I’m going to set aside the whole slabery-as-a-permanent-excuse routine; my ancestors were slabes too, but that isn’t the root of my own shortcomings. If you simply look plainly at collective black underclass behavior, the signs of both hypomania and severe depression are clear as day. The low IQ, low educational and cultural attainment, severely truncated narcissistic world view, and lack of trans-cultural empathy certainly don’t help. If anyone wants to discuss the matter further in a serious way in the context of clinical depression I am happy to oblige, but if not, I’ll just leave it at that.
I’m from the 70s.
Still listen to Black Sabbath , the first 6 and the two with Dio.
Never found the Dead appealing at all.
I’m in California and don’t see the mexicans, Chinese, and Koreans going along with this reparation idea.
I don’t have the details on this but some time recently, the academic understanding of monetary policy actually changed. The people in charge now have a perpendicular view regarding money supply to Friedman et al, they’re something like Keynesians on modern pot. It’s like an economic equivalent to critical theory in law, they’re a cult of cranks who have taken over because politicians love being enabled.
Biden’s handlers surpassed him, and earlier in his administration.
There is no such thing as “supply side inflation”. Inflation is specific term that means an increase in the money supply, not just another word for “prices going up”.
Supply shocks can cause a spike in prices, but those are simple supply and demand and prices eventually go back to where they used to be.
As near as I can tell, there are a few products that have done this, for instance gasoline and diesel, and maybe (hopefully) eggs someday, but for the most part the price increases we see across all sectors of the economy have been persistent and enduring. That’s not “supply side”, that’s a systemic increase in the money supply driving…. aggregate demand. The exact opposite of “supply side”.
So you are wrong.
How can anyone be shocked, don’t you know this or something like it happens every day, it’s not reported, it’s suppressed, censored, denied, and contradictorily enough in “entertainment” encouraged?
Seems to me that letting them go back to Africa with some modest amount of cash, say $1,000 or $5,000 – which is waaaaay more than nearly every African has today – would be reparations enough.
Off-topic:
Breaking news: A professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Information and Library Science and certified MacArthur genius has written a powerful New York Times op-ed about hair.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/opinion/the-enduring-invisible-power-of-blond.html
The chills? Please! This story has too much stupidity to give anyone the chills.
As Mr. Tillman gave an example of, people here have been following the story of this anti-White business for years. This particular story just shows how far people will go with the stupidity, and it IS California, too. So many of us want to see California go up in flames (not literally) after all the BS they’ve foisted on the rest of the country for the last 30 years.
This story is for laughs mostly. We know it can’t happen. That it wakes up some people and gives THEM the chills is a good thing too.
So, yeah, I wish I’d seen that show, Ben. I had only seen the SNL video of Alabama Getaway (from the same album) and thought, “hey, Acid Rock is not at all what I thought it was.”. Before that, I didn’t know what it referred to and figured it was heavier heavy metal or something. A guy in college from New Jersey named Pawl turned me on to this band with some Live Dead (the album).
• Can’t even… : Achmed E. Newman
My daughter is a “chick” and she would not get within 5 miles of a man like Schatzle and neither would any of her friends.
Can’t blame him for delving into the hair field. Once they wrapped up that Dewey Decimal System project, Library Science has been in the doldrums.
“Never found the Dead appealing at all.”
Well, I dunno. Any band who name-checks Krazy Kat is okay in my book. For that matter, so is any band who yells, “Evil minds who plot destruction!” or, “They both went down to Berlin, joined the Ice Capades!” I’m an equal opportunity lobotomy.
This won’t happen because the global economy is so intertwined with the US economy that American collapse would undermine at least 60-70% of the world economy.
What could happen is the US forced to become less lunatic, less gluttonous & less focused on idiotic things.
Thanks!
A cursory glance at the NCVS and the FBI’s Crime Database on a per-capita basis says otherwise.
No, I’m pretty familiar with my daughter’s social circle and no one in it remotely resembles this face tattooed clown. There’s a whole class separation thing.
Now if you had mentioned Sam Bankman-Fried that would be a different matter. Her social circle overlaps his. She didn’t know Sam personally but she knows other people in his gang whose names have been in the news. Now they are not violent like Schatzle but they stole more money with their keyboards than 1,000 Schatlzes could beat out of women in a lifetime. Change some lines of code and you have access to $250,000,000, not $250,000. So it’s a matter of class and not morality.
Robert Hunter was likely some kind of CIA asset.
https://www.thesixfifty.com/get-to-know-the-cias-gentle-hearted-torturer-who-made-the-peninsula-his-lsd-testing-ground-1759/
Bullschitt.
Anyway-it’s our (Whites) country to do as we please. You people don’t belong here and can get gone any time.
I’ll hol’ de do’.fo’ “y’all”. LOL.
I didn’t know that, thanks!
I do think it’s interesting that both Jerry and Hendrix were in the army for a while. Apparently neither one were exactly stellar soldiers…
There’s a whole class separation thing.
Chuckles.
OK, apparently you know my own family better than I do. Fine.
I should add that “class” in this context means meritocracy. Bankman-Fried’s parents are professors, which means that they are elite but not necessarily rich. But some of the people in his circle probably came from working class families – it’s not at all unusual for Asians at MIT to have parents who work in or own restaurants or dry cleaners or other typical Asian immigrant occupations. But being a math genius at MIT makes you elite, regardless of what your parents did.
The class thing, btw runs both ways. Schatzle I don’t think would have been attracted to Caroline Ellison either:
Nor would they really have much to talk about with each other.
the white girl she can pat her self on the back for being an enlightened anti-racist hero (in her eyes) nonetheless.
Until the black “boy friend” kills her with a hammer. Happens…
The end was nigh in in 2008. Or so it seemed. The Euro should have ended. But here we are, fourteen years later and the banksters and politicians still have the scam running. It seems impossible, but things keep chugging along. The best bet is tomorrow will be a lot like today.
I tried to react to the impending end-times in 2008, purchasing whiskey, bullets and toilet paper and spending on whatever I wanted in the fading glow of our civilization, but that got old around 2014. Tomorrow will probably be a lot like today. Plan accordingly.
The Second Amendment predates the National Guard.
Note that this could NEVER be the State’s Select Militia because it can be denied to the State by Federalization.
Texas has a select militia.
I was just reading Francis Fukuyama on the Big Man in Melanesia:
I wonder what he meant by that?
that sounds like BS to me. It’s my experience that so-called attractive white women who are dating blacks usually have a serious personality/cognitive deficit–eg, low IQ, Daddy issues.
OK, apparently you know my own family better than I do. Fine.
No, I know that life is full of surprises, and the lives of the patriciate are no exception.
Branford Marsalis, not Wynton. The latter being a jazz purist who frowned on his brother’s dalliances with rock musicians.
Stand corrected. Whichever Marsalis it was was good!
Hunter was indeed a member of the band tho he was not a performer–see Wiki
You are oversimplifying to the point of dishonesty Charles Erwin Wilson’s point about the PRC’s demographics, while not questioning if the CCP’s top down economic program is for example creating a lot of highways to nowhere. To expand on his points:
Lots of families have a 4-2-1 problem in a nation with a shrinking governmental safety net: one child is going to have to support two parents and all three support four grandparents. A broader view, not considering a war which would also crush the PRC’s narrow economy, is that the country’s demographic path is disastrous, an example of a middle income trap. With all those absent children, the country is getting old, fast, without having first gotten wealthy (not that the rest of the world has figured out how to mange that stage of development).
Xi and the new Tsinghua Clique’s governance has been catastrophically disastrous for the country, and very possibly eventually Xi and the clique’s (of course their own concern is their own power). Has united just about all its neighbors with Japan against its “wolf warrior” diplomacy and aggression (is there any conceivable reason constantly attacking India in inhospitable low value land makes sense???).
“Biden” has vastly exceeded Trump in attacking the PRC economically with their fairly recent embargo on higher end semiconductors and fabrication equipment, and rumor has it the CCP has realized that’s now a dead end, one they really needed with the above demographic issues. Xi and company’s former COVID along with a few other policies has resulted in the country becoming an unreliable supplier. That might get partly fixed after this first wave sweeps through the country, but the correct perception of regime risk means a lot of moving production away from the PRC will continue. Never know when the next bit of pique will disrupt production like the embargo against Australian coal without ensuring other sources to make enough electricity.
World economic trends are also unfavorable, for example Western Europe’s and to a degree the US’s self-induced energy poverty means less money to spend on anything Made in China or with a supply chain leading back to it besides pharmaceuticals. Part of the West’s ruling trash deliberate impoverishing their legacy populations who’d normally be the most productive.
There’s the unknowns of financial crises, see for example the PRC’s with residential real estate, more important than you might think because of the CCP’s financial repression resulting in few other avenues for investment, to the general deficit spending everyone with a clue has been worrying about since the 1970s and perhaps earlier.
The PRC might pull out of this, especially in the very long term, but not under Xi’s leadership such as it is. For now, it doesn’t look good, and any successor will have a much worse hand than Xi was dealt when he gained formal ultimate power in 2012.
If its about Equity, then this is a joke. If its about Equality, then Everyone should get the same sum.
But it seems more like its about creating publicly known unfairness via handouts to induce people to hate each other instead of holding the seated unaccountable authorities accountable for at a minimum Criminal Negligence, and at most intentional attempts to cause the population to fight amongst itself for handouts from these useless seated idiots.
I doubt they’ve given much thought as to where the money will come from. Or maybe they think this is where all the money is?
https://socketsite.com/archives/2023/01/office-vacancy-rate-in-san-francisco-hits-a-new-high.html
You’re not wrong about most of this stuff. However, if anything, our leadership is even worse in many respects (worse in a different way). When the Chinese house of cards collapses, at least they are going to have a lot of highways and railroads to show for it. These things don’t disappear overnight. Whereas the “Covid relief” money that Biden poured into the American economy did nothing except maybe increase production in Chinese flat screen TV factories.
Not only has China showed itself as an unreliable supplier, even worse, nowadays they are not necessarily the low cost supplier. When you pick up random crap nowadays (clothing, electronics, etc.) it increasingly says “Made in Vietnam” or “Made in Bangladesh” or something and not “Made in China”.
Pull out of what? China will the World’s sole economic superpower very soon. Your arguments are ridiculous trolling.
I agree that life is full of surprises but I also believe that people have a certain character and they act within the parameters of their character and not totally out of left field. That still leaves plenty of room for mischief and things that would surprise a parent and not in a good way. If you told me that Jeffrey Epstein was abusing teenage girls I completely believe you but if you told me that he was knocking off liquor stores I wouldn’t. If you told me that Caroline Ellison was dating Schatlze I wouldn’t believe you but if you told me that she was dating a guy who had executed a multi-billion $ white collar financial crime I would. A few more random shuffles of the deck and my daughter could have been Caroline but she never could have been Anna.
I expect my daughter to avoid crooks regardless of class. SBF may not have strangled his gf, but he put her at risk of spending decades behind bars. Not nice.
I remember a couple years ago having a talk with my daughter about this stuff. I told her there are plenty of pervs and weirdos out there, but she can handle them just by being firm and having self-respect.
Then I told her about “psychos.” With psychos your only good option is to stay as far away from them as possible. I said “when you come across one of those, don’t walk away — run!”
I didn’t get into the clever psychopaths like SBF, but now that you bring him up I’ll make sure to have a talk with her about those types, too, since she’s sure to run into a few in college.
That’s one of the things you can teach your daughter as a dad — how to size a guy up pragmatically. I like to think of it as psychological self-defense — the most important kind.
As it happens, my daughter is honest to a fault and would have nothing to do with any sort of illegality whether of the white or blue collar type, but I wanted to humor AD who apparently thinks that we are all sinners.
You do have to understand that as far as I can tell, Bankman-Fried sincerely thinks that he did nothing wrong and that some competitor instituted a run on his company that brought it crashing down thru no fault of his own. And likewise Caroline did not see herself as dating a psycho or having enmeshed herself in a criminal conspiracy. So no amount of warnings to her would have helped. We’ll see if the jury agrees.
Slavery was over and done with in England by the 12th Century. The Institution was imported in the American Colonies from Africa by the usual suspects.
Bill Jones fancies the Yids ran colonial Virginia.
At least as of the time of this comment the New York Times has not reported on this story.
That’s one of the things you can teach your daughter as a dad — how to size a guy up pragmatically.
Since 2008, three pragmatists have tossed over three young husbands in our family a propos of nothing discernible. At least two of these pragmatists were whoring around on said husbands as well. The most durable of these marriages lasted 40 months (not including the time allocated to legal filings). People treat this sort of behavior as if it was a weather event. Best of luck with your daughters.
Yeah, I’ve been through it and my daughter has seen it all firsthand. These lying, scheming, self-serving women, so common these days, are the dross.
But I remind myself that as a man I’m no blameless saint in all this. I have been a “simp” for alluring, deceitful women for most of my life. And I’ve paid a steep price, but somehow I got good kids out of it. Go figure…
Good job. Fathers teach daughters honesty, as mothers teach sons to be gentle. It’s a great blessing to have a virtuous daughter, and fathers should get some credit for it.
Well, I think that, too. It’s just the human condition.
The CPI does not include either gas or food, because who buys gas or food very often?
they’re something like Keynesians on modern pot.
The Very Model of a Modern Major General theory, as it were.
The one-off payment exceeds the net worth of nearly every American, and is much larger than any difference between white and black net worth that is supposedly attributable to racism.
A one-off payment of $5 million to each of 45 million black Americans amounts to $225 trillion, or approximately 10 years’ GDP for the entire United States. The sum is not only unreasonable but unpayable.
If a national “reparations” scheme is ever created, it will obviously pay much less than the large sums discussed here. It will also have no positive outcomes. Race hustlers will then say “Well of course it didn’t work – you only paid $100,000 per person, but the San Francisco study tells us we need $5,000,000 – so keep on paying up!”
It includes both. Two measures are published, the headline measure which includes them and the core measure which does not.
“There has to be something wrong when a man or a woman leaves his own people and marries somebody of another kind.”
Malcolm X
How are you defining “All-American”?
Blacks in the antebellum US had one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Blacks’ population has jumped by 10X since they were brought to the US/former US.
‘Nuff said.
Given the current Supreme Court (which I may remind you overturned Roe v. Wade), there is basically ZERO chance any of this stuff will ever happen.
I’m sure some of the California [D] leaders grasp this fact.
So what game are they playing?
I’m guessing maybe 2-4% of current [legal] Califirnia residents are descended primarily from Southern slaveowners… and even thinking about that is absurd!
Gavin Newsom seems to be a moron, so who is actually in charge there?
Here’s an idea: compensate black Americans based on their positive contributions to our country and society. Then subtract the direct (welfare, law enforcement, incarceration) and indirect costs (loss and suffering due to decimation of real estate values, theft, mayhem, rape and murder). The $5 million credit ‘might’ just balance the books. Hand them their $.37 surplus and call it a day.
“Gavin Newsom seems to be a moron, so who is actually in charge there?”
Our government is replete with sociopathic morons, so Newsom fits right in. He’ll probably be the next president.
Newsom, and that guy up in Canada are living proof that women shouldn’t have the vote.
The black target audience of the Democrat party has not yet figured out that they have been shortchanged on far less ambitious promises.
You’re probably right. Arguably the states can spend their money whichever way they want but there are equal protection issues and racial classifications are highly suspect. Imagine if a state tried to send a check only to people who are white and whose ancestors lived in America before 1865. Biden tried some program where they were going to give money only to black farmers and it hasn’t been doing well in court.
This is an exaggeration – I guess it was better than being a starving peasant in China but they were (literally) not living high on the hog. (“High on the hog” means that you get to eat the upper part of the pig and not the lower appendages like the trotters.)
A LOT more than that. There are around 40 million blacks in America and most are descended from about 400,000 that landed in N. America. It’s more like 100x, not 10x. Former US?
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/#:~:text=Between%201525%20and%201866%2C%20in,the%20Caribbean%20and%20South%20America.
The reason that there aren’t a billion Africans in the rest of the New World is that the ones that went to S. American and the Caribbean did not multiply nearly as much – they kept dying of tropical diseases so the slave owners had to keep on importing more. We really dodge a bullet though – if we had received say 10% of the slaves imported instead of 4%, we’d now have 100 million + blacks. In most of the Caribbean, blacks ended up forming practically the entire population.
A cite would be nice. How in the world does one even have standard of living data from antebellum south.
From Stanford University: What was the average lifespan of an American slave?
Some estimates placed the average longevity of Blacks at 21.4 years of age in 1850, with the average longevity for Whites at age 25.5. The combination of lower living standards, greater exposure, heavier labor, and poorer medical care gave slaves a higher mortality rate than whites.
There is no data on life expectancy of natives in western AFrica in 1800. However, you might want to look at https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4h3436.html
Not confused. About the best source imaginable.
I thought that fresh air and exercise is good for you? At least they didn’t weigh 300 lbs. and die of diabetes and gunshots from their brothas like blacks today.
Seriously, their standard of living was not great but probably no worse than Russian serfs and probably better than Chinese or Indian peasants at the time.
“I’ve known a fair few Jewish girls who lived life “close to the edge”“
Two doesn’t constitute a “fair few”, nor lead you to conclude with authority that chicks did jerks. Heartiste is a 50 something old man with no wife or kids. He’s a biological dead end. Is that something you have aspired to?
“Women really do need explicit societal direction about “proper” and “appropriate” behavior or apparently a good tranche of them just can not figure out even the most obvious stuff”
You can say that stuff here. But we all know if you would say that to your old lady, she’d cut your balls off. You’re definitely the type to talk tough, but then fold like a cheap suit.
Discard here. I invested. I bought tools with my guvmint check.
It is really hard to have population growth when life expectancy is 21 years. I doubt it can go much lower.
And yet somehow <400k imported slaves had become over 4 million by 1860 or a tenfold increase.
In those days there was a lot of infant mortality which drove down the average a lot. A woman might have 16 pregnancies in her lifetime but only 7 or 8 kids survive past infancy. As as long as the woman herself lived until menopause, anything after that didn't influence the rate of population growth.
Do the maf – half the population dies before age 1, half have 8 surviving kids and then die at age 41 and you have a life expectancy of 21 years and yet rapid population growth.
You did the right thing, but my point is, if we don’t all have your foresight, then we all get screwed.
It seems to me the reason for these exercises are to establish as a fact that there exist a debt, so as later be able to say “OK, we realize you can’t pay us cash, but you still owe us.”
The premise must be rejected outright.
How can you take money out of other people’s accounts and spend it on luxuries for yourself, political donations, and real estate, and not know you are doing something wrong?
You are so knowledgeable about everybody. How do you do it?
Look: this is really just trolling. You could at least be honest about it and just accuse him of random disgusting sex crimes.
All it really implies in the end is that you don’t have an argument — and that you yourself are a decidedly unpleasant person.
“Seriously, their standard of living was not great but probably no worse than Russian serfs and probably better than Chinese or Indian peasants at the time.”
So you really don’t know in the end. Thanks.
“We really dodge a bullet though – if we had received say 10% of the slaves imported instead of 4%, we’d now have 100 million + blacks”
Dodge a bullet, you sure did. But not the machine gun of your brethren (Jews), with their ideals of multiculturalism and their communism. At least, so I’ve been told by some posters here on this fine opinion webzine.
You just have to know that your kind is probably more of a direct threat to Western Civilization today, yet you seem to relish shifting the blame to other groups. Again, so I’ve been informed by the unz commentariat.
My own observation is that women have a much stronger need to establish complete consensus than men do. Men will just fight, or ignore each other; women need everyone to agree. I remember noticing some conversation among Women’s Lib types; every damned detail had to be nailed down; everyone had to be on exactly the same page about everything. It was absurd. But that’s the way women are.
So given that, women are much more susceptible to the pseudo-consensus the Jews of the media purvey. I can look at that shit, and go ‘nope.’ I may get irritated, I may attempt to refute it, I may simply ignore it — but I certainly don’t feel I have to buy it.
Women feel they do have to buy it. Rather than bust up what they perceive to be the consensus, they’ll strive to adopt it.
Look at what goes on here. Everyone manages to fight with everybody — about something. Shall we each list the ten views we each feel are most important? I’ll bet on two things: first, that at least one strong difference of opinion will emerge, and that second, neither one of us will be able to convert the other to his point of view. That’s because we’re almost all men.
Women — as a rule — aren’t that way. First off, that list is going to be established. Second, every woman present is going to at least superficially agree to it.
Actually, the truth of Jack’s view has been conclusively established. Slaves in the United States were materially relatively well off.
One can start gassing about the value of freedom, human dignity, etc — but material deprivation? Nah. Most slaves had a plentiful, varied diet, adequate clothing and housing, what medical care the day offered, and even toys for the chilluns.
That’s the way it was. If it doesn’t fit your moral fable, that’s just too bad.
“Actually, the truth of Jack’s view has been conclusively established.”
Really? What citations are you able to provide to counter these sources?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/27/bill-oreilly-slaves-eat-well
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/02/10/514385071/frederick-douglass-on-how-slave-owners-used-food-as-a-weapon-of-control
https://aas.princeton.edu/news/dressed-and-laying-bare-fashion-shadow-market-0
https://www.scielo.br/j/mioc/a/5h4qyZGrsdPpzFr8KqL8qXd/?lang=en
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305243
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/419815/pdf
Not sure your infant mortality guess is right for mid 19th century America.
Interesting tidbit from noodling around with the 1870 census data on Ancestry. Evidently the median age of the white population that year was about 23 years and change. That of the black-and-mulatto population was 21 years and change.
Quacks the Corvinus. You could at least stick in a ‘more’ tag.
As to ‘sources,’ I knew that was coming. You research it if you have any doubts. I don’t — and I don’t waste my time proving that atomic bombs go ‘boom’ or anything else I have established to my complete satisfaction.
…there wouldn’t be any point anyway. If it conflicted with your pathetically fragile, rigid world-view, you’d just reject it. I might as well try to prove to a Bible literalist that the world has in fact been around for a few hundred million years.
No it hasn’t! Blah blah blah…I can hear you now.
I have argued with Communists that weren’t idiots. I have read Zionists that weren’t idiots. You’re an idiot. Pay me in advance if you want me to try to demonstrate anything to you.
“All it really implies in the end is that you don’t have an argument — and that you yourself are a decidedly unpleasant person.“
I have to follow your lead once in a while just to keep things interesting.
Must you always get the last word?
Just as I expected. You make a claim, then run away from it when asked to provide sources to back it up. At least put up a fight rather than get bulldozed.
2 questions:
Can this money be paid in Confederate dollars?
What if I’m a Halfrican or a Quadroon? Do I have to pay 25% but get back 25%?
Rubin’s fellow Yippie tried that stunt at Woodstock:
(((Corvinus the Hasbara troll))):
What are you doing here?
Aren’t there some Palestinian olive groves you could be bulldozing?
Mortality rates of Whites at the time were higher than slaves.
You aren’t generally going to mistreat your own property or people you depend on to keep your business and farm going and to care for your children. Slaves were not expendable.
“Mortality rates of Whites at the time were higher than slaves.“
Citations required.
“Germans made soap & lampshades out of Jews.”
Citations required.
As you know, (((liar))), the movie portrays Jews in Queens stereotypically (& believably).
The hero is not “a white guy” — he’s a brave & quietly-charismatic Jewish blue-collar worker.
The Blacks are inter-generational violent ghetto thugs who brazenly prey upon the Jews in a city where legal guns are banned.
“The movie is so old” that such a realistic portrayal of Jew-vs.-Black animosity had not yet been banned by your tribe’s control of Hollywood & the media (& YouTube).
Thanks to Stan Adams (& Ron Unz), this brilliant “obscurity” is available:
— (https://www.unz.com/isteve/san-francisco-reparations-to-last-250-years/#comment-5766893)