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From the New York Times news section:

In Lebanon, the mayor of Yaroun, a village on the southern border with Israel,

That’s Hezbollah country.

said that Mr. Matar’s father lives there, and that authorities had been trying to reach him without success. The father lives in a stone house in the village’s center and tends to flocks of goats and sheep, the mayor, Ali Tehfe, said.

Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!

 
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  1. Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!

    It’s almost like the point is “F.U. Americans!”

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @AnotherDad


    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital.
     
    When you consider its purpose, our current immigration policy is working exactly as intended. Wrecking the employment market with ultra-cheap labor, transform the electorate with millions of permanent underclass voters, and inundate the people whose ancestors built the country with utterly foreign and unassimilated millions ...

    Replies: @anonymouseperson

    , @Gordo
    @AnotherDad

    Part of the point is to depopulate areas that your greatest ally wants to incorporate.

    , @slumber_j
    @AnotherDad

    Well, the dude's surname "Matar" literally does mean "to kill" in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Cato

  2. Salman Rushdie’s Attacker Is the Son of a Lebanese Goatherd

    But is he lonely?

    And what happened to all the horny goat weed? Is there a supply chain bottleneck? (Luckily, @BB753

    @Reg Cæsar

    Goat and sheep herding are valuable skills to have. They are in great demand in Europe.

  • Women and minorities hit hardest:

    New Study Finds Men May Outlive Women Instead

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Reg Cæsar

    Here are the latest obituaries from my hometown newspaper:

    Male, 83. Puerto Rican.
    Male, 74. "Courageous battle with cancer."
    Male, 88.
    Male, 84,
    Male, 79.
    Female, 68.
    Female, 92.
    Female, 88.
    Female, 87.
    Male, 89.
    Female, 87.
    Female, 71.
    Female, 80. Black.
    Male, 46. Contributions to epilepsy charity, possible cause of death.
    Female 80.
    Male, 99.
    Male, 97.
    Female, 77.
    Female, 93.

    Not sure there is much of a pattern.

  • anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal. If negotiation is stopped and since Iran has already enriched a stockpile of uranium to 60% to preposition itself for nuclear breakout, the expected outcome will be an Iran War. Buckle up. Given the Army is at 52% of its recruitment goal so far this year with 7 weeks left in the fiscal year, it makes sense for the Israel Lobby to push for war within 2 years. The force structure of the Army will have to be cut by 20% by 2025. So even if Trump is back in office and is more amenable to bombing Iran, the lack of ground forces and air defense makes the military more reluctant to go to war. At least Israel will be safe before the whole thing truly crumbles.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal.
     
    The thing is, the current U.S.-Iran negotiation is actually being mediated by [wait for it] . . . Russia! And due to our Deep State's idiot Ukraine policy, Russia and Iran are now allies. (Iran is selling drones to Russia and Russia is now facilitating Iran's evasion of U.S. sanctions and will soon be selling it advanced weapons). Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs are also swinging against the U.S., diplomatically. So basically, our Idiot Deep State, has switched the dynamic from "Israel + Arab States against Iran" to "Iran + Arab States against Israel (and U.S.)."

    You won't read that in the MSM, but that's the new reality. So the Iran Deal is dead. Iran will become a "nascent nuclear power," meaning it will have a couple bombs that it can assemble whenever it deems necessary to counter Israel's nukes. Maybe you'll read about it in a year or two.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @AndrewR
    @anonymous

    There is absolutely zero chance Trump will be in office in 2025. Leaving aside his age and presumably less than ideal health, which make death or severe disability relatively likely over the course of the next 29 months, we saw how "fortified" the 2020 election was. I also suspect that he would receive fewer votes, both electoral and popular, in 2024, "fortification" aside. Finally there is the very real possibility he will be in prison or at least permanently barred from holding federal office by then.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

  • Man, this is almost as bad as the massive network of Israeli Mossad agents who were allowed into America to pose as “art students” and movers before they had the time of their lives celebrating the fall of the twin towers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @JimDandy

    Are there any more urban legends you would like to repeat? Spiders eggs in bubble gum?

    Replies: @JimDandy

  • It’s foreign policy also sure does make lots of places sources of terrorists too.

    • Replies: @West reanimator
    @Altai

    And then prioritizes those same places as immigration sources, since our state dept uses green cards as bribes for our "allies" and their families.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  • anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!

    Invade that world, invite the world. This is another casualty from US complicity in the invasion of Palestine. There were thousands on September 11, 2001.

    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.

    Besides, such brain drain leaves those foreign countries even worse off, which both fuels pressure to migrate to Europe and the United States and creates additional excuses for us to invade them. How could you be so shortsighted? Drain the world, maintain the world.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    1. there was no invasion of Palestine. I won't bother with writing anything new, so just a few links: https://www.unz.com/imercer/is-israel-racist-a-reply-to-an-anti-semitic-writer-part-2/#comment-4349132; https://www.unz.com/isteve/jury-takes-2-hours-to-find-carjack-murderer-not-guilty/#comment-4689322

    2. there is nothing similar to "brain drain" with this Hezbollah guy. There is no brain to be drained.

    , @AnotherDad
    @anonymous


    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.
     
    Amazingly, America managed to have the world's highest standard of living, the world's leading technology and the world's largest economy ... before the ancestors of the people who constantly tell you how much you Americans suck even showed up.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  • I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    • Replies: @Adept
    @TelfoedJohn

    https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/gte.2007.0093


    "The overall prevalence of consanguineous marriages was reported to be 42% with first cousin marriage constituting around 31% of the total marriages. "

     

    The population is deeply inbred. Though that paper focuses on a particular rural region, on the whole, it's assumed that 20-25% of the marriages in Lebanon are first cousin marriages, and a large fraction of the remainder are second cousin marriages.
    , @AndrewR
    @TelfoedJohn

    There is no way in hell the average Haitian IQ is that high.

    Also, in which parts of "the West" have you met Lebanese people?

    , @Almost Missouri
    @TelfoedJohn


    The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well
     
    It's not just the West. You can meet Lebanese almost anywhere in the world, and typically the are outperforming the locals. (E.g., a lot of "indigenous" industry in Africa and South America is actually run by ethnic Lebanese with dual—or sometimes triple—citizenship.)

    Even inside Lebanon itself, my experience has been that most people are capable and bright enough. There is—surprisingly for such a small country—something of an outback where people live more traditional, subsistence lives, such as goat herding. I won't denigrate the intellect of goatherders, but I will note that they probably lack motivation for IQ tests.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @TelfoedJohn

    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church's strictures on cousin-marriage. I've remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.

    Also, IQ is an attempt to set a metric for a very complex and nuanced phenomenon, and my impression is that Lebanese seem to punch above their IQ-weight for some idiosyncratic reason.

    Anyway, proof that Islam, along with polygamy and cousin-marriage, remain the three Dont's if you want to have an advancing civilization.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @TelfoedJohn

    Here is a very high IQ Lebanese Christian attacking IQ as pseudoscience based on the not-so-high-IQ strawman argument of supposed correlation between IQ and wealth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXf0VLuQLg

    Obviously IQ correlates with wealth only up to certain point. A stronger argument for IQ is correlation of IQ with STEM academic achievement like math Olympiads.

    A better argument against IQ is that at the outliers may not fit a normal distribution. Otherwise based on higher average Chinese IQ you would see orders of magnitude more Chinese genius outliers than whites, but that has not been the case. East Asians monopolize math Olympiads, but not the pinnacle of math accomplishments like Fields Medal winners.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Jack D
    @TelfoedJohn

    Historically, Christian Lebanese have been moving to the West for at least 150 years and they are a high IQ, essentially white European population. Muslims, especially Shiite goat herders, were historically considered unsuitable for living in the West (for the reasons we are now finding out the hard way) so we had no experience with those.

    What you are saying is like say, "Gee, I don't know where the stereotype of dumb Polish peasants comes from. All the Polish Jews that I know seem pretty sharp." You are talking about effectively two different groups.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Almost Missouri

  • Rushdee received the Fatwah in 1989. He thought that enough time had elapsed that they had let it go. They have been butchering each other over feuds started 1,500 years ago, so why did Rushdee think that they would forget it after only 33 years?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Zero Philosopher

    "They have been butchering each other over feuds started 1,500 years ago, so why did Rushdee think that they would forget it after only 33 years?"

    Be fair. A fair few people have been killed in England and Ireland (North and South) over feuds started 400-odd years ago.

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

  • @AnotherDad

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    It's almost like the point is "F.U. Americans!"

    Replies: @Polistra, @Gordo, @slumber_j

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital.

    When you consider its purpose, our current immigration policy is working exactly as intended. Wrecking the employment market with ultra-cheap labor, transform the electorate with millions of permanent underclass voters, and inundate the people whose ancestors built the country with utterly foreign and unassimilated millions …

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
    @Polistra

    Guess what ethnic group is behind it all?

  • • LOL: AndrewR
  • Or maybe Hadi is a crisis actor who’s spent his life deep undercover in the goat-herding communities of Lebanon.

  • What’s the problem with being a goat herder? It wouldn’t be a problem if he kept to his occupation. Preferably in Lebanon, as goat herding doesn’t have much future in the US.

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!

    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that’s arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn’t work. It’s not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they’re not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually “needed” in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @Dumbo

    Herding goats is arguably a more useful pursuit than writing The Satanic Verses.

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Dumbo



    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that’s arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn’t work. It’s not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they’re not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually “needed” in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.
     
    I think the point has been made that small-scale, selective immigration would likely bring substantially all of the benefits of immigration while minimizing the downsides. With forethought you could have probably easily identified Elon Musk as a young man and fast-tracked him (rather than making him utilize his mother's Canadian citizenship to get to the U.S.), and identified Matar as undesirable without necessarily even predicting this act of violence (although understanding that political violence was more likely from Matar). You could have small ethnic enclaves in large Metropolitan cities like London where you would be able to experience "authentic spicy food" from whatever culture, or view representations of their arts etc., without having entire government-subsidized mini-caliphates like exist in places like Luton.

    But none of the supposed benefits of immigration require the sheer scale and rapidity of immigration into Western nations. As has been explained before, Americans in general when surveyed want less immigration, but even then they consistently underestimate the scale of even legal immigration into the U.S. If I recall, most people estimated legal immigration at about 100,000 per annum, rather than the reality which is easily ten times that figure which was before the scam of asylum.
    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Dumbo


    ...goat herding doesn’t have much future in the US.
     
    Surprise! Goat herding is actually a plum job for seasonal workers. Five hundred a week plus room and board (admittedly camping style). These are prize jobs that people return to year after year.

    https://seasonaljobs.dol.gov/jobs/H-300-22080-996248
    , @anonymouseperson
    @Dumbo

    Immigration currently is about replacement.

  • Hmm, how many foreign-born males are interested in joining the US military and fighting in the sacred and holy cause of greater profit for Wall Street?

    Is diversity a source of military strength for those carpetbaggers?

    Anyway, if I were thinking of enlisting in the US military; I would wait until the Biden regime and any Democratic successor is safely out of office, first.

  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/gte.2007.0093

    “The overall prevalence of consanguineous marriages was reported to be 42% with first cousin marriage constituting around 31% of the total marriages. “

    The population is deeply inbred. Though that paper focuses on a particular rural region, on the whole, it’s assumed that 20-25% of the marriages in Lebanon are first cousin marriages, and a large fraction of the remainder are second cousin marriages.

  • Amid the sea of tragedy, there is some good-news.

    Earnings per share of SCI increased some 140% between 2019 pre-covid and 2021 post-vaccine.

    https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/death-business-is-booming-in-the-age-of-the-vaccines

    The death business is booming in the age of the vaccines, unlike when funeral homes and hospitals were empty during the “pandemic.” The aftermath of destruction and death after being injected with the COVID-19 vaccines is far more severe than anyone could have predicted

  • How did they end up getting to the US? Mom says all her family was here. Maybe a sibling sponsored her. Pretty strange Dad returned after the divorce. Did he want to avoid child support that much? I saw at the Daily Mail that Mom said she is cutting son out of her life.

    ‘I just cannot believe he was capable of doing something like this. He was very quiet, everyone loved him. As I said to the FBI I’m not going to bother talking to him again. He’s responsible for his actions.

    ‘I have another two minors that I need to take care of. They are upset, they’re shocked. All we can do is try to move on from this, without him.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110905/Mother-alleged-Salman-Rushdie-attacker-says-son-responsible-actions.html

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @notsaying


    Pretty strange Dad returned after the divorce. Did he want to avoid child support that much?
     
    I wondered the same thing. The US is renowned for the harshness of its child support laws - notably calculations based on imputed earnings, and jail if you don't pay. If the bills are unpayable, life as a goat herder in an outhouse country might be more attractive.
  • @anonymous
    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal. If negotiation is stopped and since Iran has already enriched a stockpile of uranium to 60% to preposition itself for nuclear breakout, the expected outcome will be an Iran War. Buckle up. Given the Army is at 52% of its recruitment goal so far this year with 7 weeks left in the fiscal year, it makes sense for the Israel Lobby to push for war within 2 years. The force structure of the Army will have to be cut by 20% by 2025. So even if Trump is back in office and is more amenable to bombing Iran, the lack of ground forces and air defense makes the military more reluctant to go to war. At least Israel will be safe before the whole thing truly crumbles.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @AndrewR

    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal.

    The thing is, the current U.S.-Iran negotiation is actually being mediated by [wait for it] . . . Russia! And due to our Deep State’s idiot Ukraine policy, Russia and Iran are now allies. (Iran is selling drones to Russia and Russia is now facilitating Iran’s evasion of U.S. sanctions and will soon be selling it advanced weapons). Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs are also swinging against the U.S., diplomatically. So basically, our Idiot Deep State, has switched the dynamic from “Israel + Arab States against Iran” to “Iran + Arab States against Israel (and U.S.).”

    You won’t read that in the MSM, but that’s the new reality. So the Iran Deal is dead. Iran will become a “nascent nuclear power,” meaning it will have a couple bombs that it can assemble whenever it deems necessary to counter Israel’s nukes. Maybe you’ll read about it in a year or two.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    Up to the point of the Ukraine War, Russia was vigorously trying to broker a peace deal between Iran and the US. It made me believe that the posturing before the war was a bluff. Now Russia and Iran are military allies and Russia is sure to continuously supply weapons to Iran if war breaks out between Iran and the US. (And China is being pushed to buy even more oil from Iran because of tensions with the US over Taiwan.) There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war. However, Iran will now be much better prepared because foolish neocons lack the ability to think hard and decided to pursue 3 major confrontations at the same time (Iran, Russia, and China). Plus, the US will conduct a giant military drill in South Korea soon to warn North Korea.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  • @Zero Philosopher
    Rushdee received the Fatwah in 1989. He thought that enough time had elapsed that they had let it go. They have been butchering each other over feuds started 1,500 years ago, so why did Rushdee think that they would forget it after only 33 years?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “They have been butchering each other over feuds started 1,500 years ago, so why did Rushdee think that they would forget it after only 33 years?”

    Be fair. A fair few people have been killed in England and Ireland (North and South) over feuds started 400-odd years ago.

    • Replies: @Zero Philosopher
    @YetAnotherAnon

    You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted inddpendence…

  • @Altai
    It's foreign policy also sure does make lots of places sources of terrorists too.

    Replies: @West reanimator

    And then prioritizes those same places as immigration sources, since our state dept uses green cards as bribes for our “allies” and their families.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @West reanimator

    I'd say a lot of snitches are sourced abroad. Muslims are not very integrated into US society, and their communities would be hard for the feds to penetrate. But if you go to somewhere like Pakistan, there are millions who'd give their right arm for a green card.

  • ” The father lives in a stone house in the village’s center ”

    Imagine if he had lived in a straw house at the edge of the village.

  • It’s the Feast Of The Assumption, the fatal day for General Samsonov in 1914.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1914_(novel)

    Live from Ukraine, beautiful singing. May they and their families all come through unharmed.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, it’s the day August 15 that Mary Jesus’ mother died and went directly to heaven.

    Catholic Holy Day in August the August Atlantic Monthly has an article about the most Maryish Roman Catholic icon of all time; the rosary.

    The minion of Satan who writes for The Atlantic claims that the rosary is the sacred symbol of White supremacy fundamentalist Christianity and right wing militias. Funny, the only rosaries I ever see dangle from the mirrors of cars and trucks belonging to Hispanics. And I occasionally see an older Hispanic woman with one wrapped around the wrist. So can she can pray Hail Mary while waiting in a supermarket line.

    The Atlantic follows the grand tradition of Henry 8 , Thomas Cromwell and their Pursuivants. Aka fanatic puritans authorized to raid any dwelling or building to seize and destroy any and all Roman Catholic icons.

  • @anonymous
    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal. If negotiation is stopped and since Iran has already enriched a stockpile of uranium to 60% to preposition itself for nuclear breakout, the expected outcome will be an Iran War. Buckle up. Given the Army is at 52% of its recruitment goal so far this year with 7 weeks left in the fiscal year, it makes sense for the Israel Lobby to push for war within 2 years. The force structure of the Army will have to be cut by 20% by 2025. So even if Trump is back in office and is more amenable to bombing Iran, the lack of ground forces and air defense makes the military more reluctant to go to war. At least Israel will be safe before the whole thing truly crumbles.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @AndrewR

    There is absolutely zero chance Trump will be in office in 2025. Leaving aside his age and presumably less than ideal health, which make death or severe disability relatively likely over the course of the next 29 months, we saw how “fortified” the 2020 election was. I also suspect that he would receive fewer votes, both electoral and popular, in 2024, “fortification” aside. Finally there is the very real possibility he will be in prison or at least permanently barred from holding federal office by then.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @AndrewR

    You left out “assassinated” in 2023 - if the midterms really are a disaster for the Democrats, the Deep State playbook certainly includes murder.

  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    There is no way in hell the average Haitian IQ is that high.

    Also, in which parts of “the West” have you met Lebanese people?

  • You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted inddpendence…

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Zero Philosopher

    "You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted independence…"

    But.. a lot of English who move to Scotland find the natives distinctly unfriendly, even now. I remember decades ago visiting a Scottish friend in Lewis (still Gaelic-speaking place) and bumping into some English hippy types who said the neighbours really didn't like them. Sadly, the only way in which they can counter this is by grouping together, which is how ghettoes form and which was probably the experience of black and Asian people in England and Wales.

    I honestly think that a lot of Scots would prefer a black or Asian family next door to an English one - at least for the first few months.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/08/scottish-referendum-horror-movie-white-settlers

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-little-england-over-the-water-white-settlers-make-up-15-of-skye-s-population-1450967.html

    https://www.quora.com/How-welcome-are-English-people-in-Scotland-I-want-to-move-there-in-the-future-but-I-am-worried-I-may-not-be-welcome-as-I-know-the-English-and-the-Scottish-have-a-long-and-complicated-history

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

  • @West reanimator
    @Altai

    And then prioritizes those same places as immigration sources, since our state dept uses green cards as bribes for our "allies" and their families.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    I’d say a lot of snitches are sourced abroad. Muslims are not very integrated into US society, and their communities would be hard for the feds to penetrate. But if you go to somewhere like Pakistan, there are millions who’d give their right arm for a green card.

  • @AnotherDad

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    It's almost like the point is "F.U. Americans!"

    Replies: @Polistra, @Gordo, @slumber_j

    Part of the point is to depopulate areas that your greatest ally wants to incorporate.

  • What a splendid new insult: You Son of a Lebanese Goatherd!

  • anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    A lot of Republicans like Cotton and McCaul want to use this attack as a reason for stopping negotiation with Iran on a nuclear deal.
     
    The thing is, the current U.S.-Iran negotiation is actually being mediated by [wait for it] . . . Russia! And due to our Deep State's idiot Ukraine policy, Russia and Iran are now allies. (Iran is selling drones to Russia and Russia is now facilitating Iran's evasion of U.S. sanctions and will soon be selling it advanced weapons). Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs are also swinging against the U.S., diplomatically. So basically, our Idiot Deep State, has switched the dynamic from "Israel + Arab States against Iran" to "Iran + Arab States against Israel (and U.S.)."

    You won't read that in the MSM, but that's the new reality. So the Iran Deal is dead. Iran will become a "nascent nuclear power," meaning it will have a couple bombs that it can assemble whenever it deems necessary to counter Israel's nukes. Maybe you'll read about it in a year or two.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Up to the point of the Ukraine War, Russia was vigorously trying to broker a peace deal between Iran and the US. It made me believe that the posturing before the war was a bluff. Now Russia and Iran are military allies and Russia is sure to continuously supply weapons to Iran if war breaks out between Iran and the US. (And China is being pushed to buy even more oil from Iran because of tensions with the US over Taiwan.) There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war. However, Iran will now be much better prepared because foolish neocons lack the ability to think hard and decided to pursue 3 major confrontations at the same time (Iran, Russia, and China). Plus, the US will conduct a giant military drill in South Korea soon to warn North Korea.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war.
     
    The neocons and Israelis wish they could wage war on Iran. But what can they actually do? They can't invade it. Airstrikes aren't going to work. (Especially once Russia gives Iran advanced S-400 and S-500 anti-air defense systems.) They've already shot their wad with every sanction under the sun (and these will be easily evaded with the help of Russia.)

    Replies: @anonymous

  • @Zero Philosopher
    You don't see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted inddpendence...

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted independence…”

    But.. a lot of English who move to Scotland find the natives distinctly unfriendly, even now. I remember decades ago visiting a Scottish friend in Lewis (still Gaelic-speaking place) and bumping into some English hippy types who said the neighbours really didn’t like them. Sadly, the only way in which they can counter this is by grouping together, which is how ghettoes form and which was probably the experience of black and Asian people in England and Wales.

    I honestly think that a lot of Scots would prefer a black or Asian family next door to an English one – at least for the first few months.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/08/scottish-referendum-horror-movie-white-settlers

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-little-england-over-the-water-white-settlers-make-up-15-of-skye-s-population-1450967.html

    https://www.quora.com/How-welcome-are-English-people-in-Scotland-I-want-to-move-there-in-the-future-but-I-am-worried-I-may-not-be-welcome-as-I-know-the-English-and-the-Scottish-have-a-long-and-complicated-history

    • Replies: @Zero Philosopher
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It's one thing to be resentful, it's another to be uncivilized. Scots might be resentful of not having been granted independence, but their resentfulness seldom manifests as murder, either one-on-one or in genocide. Muslims, conversely, take resentment to truly Medieval levels of blood feuds. And they never forgive or forget. Semitic peoples are like that. Muslim Arabs will never forgive Americans for having invaded their lands, just like Jews will never forgive Germans for the Holocaust. Part of being a Semite is never forgetting or forgiving. It's who they are.

  • I read somewhere that Rushdie got 15 wounds. How did the goatherd’s son manage to avoid killing him?

    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @Ralph L

    Rushdie was given first aid by a doctor who was in the lecture audience. Otherwise he probably would have died on the spot.

  • Sheepherding is ok when white people do it. That’s not OK, that’s WP. Why wasn’t that guy in Nevada tending his herd, with his wife and 15 children. It’s not like the US gov doesn’t own 90% of Nevada land area.

    Migration and sheepherding

    Basque immigration peaked after the Spanish Carlist Wars …

    Thousands of Basques were recruited from Spain due to severe labor shortages during World War II.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Americans#Migration_and_sheepherding

  • @AnotherDad

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    It's almost like the point is "F.U. Americans!"

    Replies: @Polistra, @Gordo, @slumber_j

    Well, the dude’s surname “Matar” literally does mean “to kill” in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.

    • Replies: @ananymous
    @slumber_j

    Now, according to zionist trash writers, the attacker is Spanish and their immigration to the US should be controlled. These zionist racists ignore the criminal Jewish mafia who have come from the central Asia and are controlling US and the mouth of its traitor politicians what to say and whom should be sanctioned and military attacked for the interest of Jewish mafia's dicks to expand.
    As long as you have zionist propagandists who are trying to brainwash the dummies at this site, to divert attention from the real issue, Jewish mafia and its fifth column traitors at the center of Power in the US and the western capital, then you will be manipulated by these traitors using anything stupid as 'immigration'. These charlatan do not tell you that the 'attacker' was BORN and RAISED in the violent society of US neoliberalism designed and implemented by the criminal JEWISH mafia. As long as you read the zionist propaganda rants at this page without criticism, then you stay as slave for ever.

    You dummies, the zionist propagandists block any other voices to keep you as stupid and obedient as you are. Break the code and start thinking for yourself to recognize your enemies soon and discard them as trash.

    , @Cato
    @slumber_j


    the dude’s surname “Matar” literally does mean “to kill” in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.
     
    Definitely a coincidence. But even more bizarre, his given name "Hadi" means "let's go" in Turkish: "Let's go kill"...

    Come to think of it, might be a highly estimable name for a jihadi.
  • @Dumbo
    What's the problem with being a goat herder? It wouldn't be a problem if he kept to his occupation. Preferably in Lebanon, as goat herding doesn't have much future in the US.

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that's arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn't work. It's not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they're not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually "needed" in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Veteran Aryan, @anonymouseperson

    Herding goats is arguably a more useful pursuit than writing The Satanic Verses.

  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well

    It’s not just the West. You can meet Lebanese almost anywhere in the world, and typically the are outperforming the locals. (E.g., a lot of “indigenous” industry in Africa and South America is actually run by ethnic Lebanese with dual—or sometimes triple—citizenship.)

    Even inside Lebanon itself, my experience has been that most people are capable and bright enough. There is—surprisingly for such a small country—something of an outback where people live more traditional, subsistence lives, such as goat herding. I won’t denigrate the intellect of goatherders, but I will note that they probably lack motivation for IQ tests.

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    @Almost Missouri


    a lot of “indigenous” industry in Africa and South America is actually run by ethnic Lebanese with dual—or sometimes triple—citizenship
     
    Yeah, I noticed this when in West Africa. Some godforsaken town would have a general store or little supermarket, and it would always be Lebs running it. Seems to be a fairly obvious pattern. People with IQ about15 points higher than the country average will end up running the businesses, whether it's Chinese in Malaysia, Jews in America, Lebs in Africa. If the difference is greater than 15 then the higher IQ group will not want to live there, because the money won't compensate for the crappier lifestyle.

    Another pattern I found in West Africa was that village chiefs often had an 'advisor' who was Indian. They acted as a 'court Jew' in relation to business etc. I haven't seen this written about anywhere.
  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church’s strictures on cousin-marriage. I’ve remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.

    Also, IQ is an attempt to set a metric for a very complex and nuanced phenomenon, and my impression is that Lebanese seem to punch above their IQ-weight for some idiosyncratic reason.

    Anyway, proof that Islam, along with polygamy and cousin-marriage, remain the three Dont’s if you want to have an advancing civilization.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Also, this is another opportunity for me to promote the tragic, Lebanese version of Idiocracy, the 2018 film Capernaum, directed by a Lebanese Christian. It is bereft of any comic relief and very hard to watch.

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church’s strictures on cousin-marriage. I’ve remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.
     
    I suppose cousin marriage is the Near East's answer to primogeniture - a way to keep one's possessions be they lands or flocks or whatever in your direct line and not losing your legacy to outmarriage by ensuring that both sides of your descendants' lines are from the fruit of your own loins.

    In the West, primogeniture probably led to entrepreneurship and foreign adventure/colonialism - the second and third sons and so forth needed something to do, and they were probably as smart and talented as the first son who inherited the great estate. So they build factories or seek commissions in the Royal Navy or Royal Army and subdue chunks of entire continents and engage in mercantile trade with the Mother nation to make their own fame and fortunes by other means.

    Serial cousin marriage seems to have the inverse effect, and you wind up with dumb, ugly, angry people before accounting for horrible congenital birth defects.

    Replies: @Alden

  • @slumber_j
    @AnotherDad

    Well, the dude's surname "Matar" literally does mean "to kill" in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Cato

    Now, according to zionist trash writers, the attacker is Spanish and their immigration to the US should be controlled. These zionist racists ignore the criminal Jewish mafia who have come from the central Asia and are controlling US and the mouth of its traitor politicians what to say and whom should be sanctioned and military attacked for the interest of Jewish mafia’s dicks to expand.
    As long as you have zionist propagandists who are trying to brainwash the dummies at this site, to divert attention from the real issue, Jewish mafia and its fifth column traitors at the center of Power in the US and the western capital, then you will be manipulated by these traitors using anything stupid as ‘immigration’. These charlatan do not tell you that the ‘attacker’ was BORN and RAISED in the violent society of US neoliberalism designed and implemented by the criminal JEWISH mafia. As long as you read the zionist propaganda rants at this page without criticism, then you stay as slave for ever.

    You dummies, the zionist propagandists block any other voices to keep you as stupid and obedient as you are. Break the code and start thinking for yourself to recognize your enemies soon and discard them as trash.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @TelfoedJohn

    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church's strictures on cousin-marriage. I've remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.

    Also, IQ is an attempt to set a metric for a very complex and nuanced phenomenon, and my impression is that Lebanese seem to punch above their IQ-weight for some idiosyncratic reason.

    Anyway, proof that Islam, along with polygamy and cousin-marriage, remain the three Dont's if you want to have an advancing civilization.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Also, this is another opportunity for me to promote the tragic, Lebanese version of Idiocracy, the 2018 film Capernaum, directed by a Lebanese Christian. It is bereft of any comic relief and very hard to watch.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    @Zero Philosopher

    "They have been butchering each other over feuds started 1,500 years ago, so why did Rushdee think that they would forget it after only 33 years?"

    Be fair. A fair few people have been killed in England and Ireland (North and South) over feuds started 400-odd years ago.

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

    You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted inddpendence…

  • @anonymous

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    Invade that world, invite the world. This is another casualty from US complicity in the invasion of Palestine. There were thousands on September 11, 2001.

    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.

    Besides, such brain drain leaves those foreign countries even worse off, which both fuels pressure to migrate to Europe and the United States and creates additional excuses for us to invade them. How could you be so shortsighted? Drain the world, maintain the world.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    1. there was no invasion of Palestine. I won’t bother with writing anything new, so just a few links: https://www.unz.com/imercer/is-israel-racist-a-reply-to-an-anti-semitic-writer-part-2/#comment-4349132; https://www.unz.com/isteve/jury-takes-2-hours-to-find-carjack-murderer-not-guilty/#comment-4689322

    2. there is nothing similar to “brain drain” with this Hezbollah guy. There is no brain to be drained.

  • @Dumbo
    What's the problem with being a goat herder? It wouldn't be a problem if he kept to his occupation. Preferably in Lebanon, as goat herding doesn't have much future in the US.

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that's arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn't work. It's not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they're not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually "needed" in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Veteran Aryan, @anonymouseperson

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!

    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that’s arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn’t work. It’s not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they’re not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually “needed” in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    I think the point has been made that small-scale, selective immigration would likely bring substantially all of the benefits of immigration while minimizing the downsides. With forethought you could have probably easily identified Elon Musk as a young man and fast-tracked him (rather than making him utilize his mother’s Canadian citizenship to get to the U.S.), and identified Matar as undesirable without necessarily even predicting this act of violence (although understanding that political violence was more likely from Matar). You could have small ethnic enclaves in large Metropolitan cities like London where you would be able to experience “authentic spicy food” from whatever culture, or view representations of their arts etc., without having entire government-subsidized mini-caliphates like exist in places like Luton.

    But none of the supposed benefits of immigration require the sheer scale and rapidity of immigration into Western nations. As has been explained before, Americans in general when surveyed want less immigration, but even then they consistently underestimate the scale of even legal immigration into the U.S. If I recall, most people estimated legal immigration at about 100,000 per annum, rather than the reality which is easily ten times that figure which was before the scam of asylum.

  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @TelfoedJohn

    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church's strictures on cousin-marriage. I've remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.

    Also, IQ is an attempt to set a metric for a very complex and nuanced phenomenon, and my impression is that Lebanese seem to punch above their IQ-weight for some idiosyncratic reason.

    Anyway, proof that Islam, along with polygamy and cousin-marriage, remain the three Dont's if you want to have an advancing civilization.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church’s strictures on cousin-marriage. I’ve remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.

    I suppose cousin marriage is the Near East’s answer to primogeniture – a way to keep one’s possessions be they lands or flocks or whatever in your direct line and not losing your legacy to outmarriage by ensuring that both sides of your descendants’ lines are from the fruit of your own loins.

    In the West, primogeniture probably led to entrepreneurship and foreign adventure/colonialism – the second and third sons and so forth needed something to do, and they were probably as smart and talented as the first son who inherited the great estate. So they build factories or seek commissions in the Royal Navy or Royal Army and subdue chunks of entire continents and engage in mercantile trade with the Mother nation to make their own fame and fortunes by other means.

    Serial cousin marriage seems to have the inverse effect, and you wind up with dumb, ugly, angry people before accounting for horrible congenital birth defects.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Only about 400 English families had primogeniture, land and fortunes Most English colonizers were convicts, indentured servants, adventurers, insane wanna be jews religious fanatics, and drifters.

    Same for other European countries. The city and province of Hamburg Germany emptied out all the city jails and provincial prisons once a year from about 1640 right up to WW1. Because of malaria, yellow fever cholera and other tropical diseases France found it impossible to colonize the southern part of Louisiana territory. So the government finally resorted to sending what America terms non violent youthful offenders to New Orleans, Biloxi and Mobile.

    Africans weren’t the only people who were chained up when sent to America.

  • Did the fatwa stipulate any partial payment for wounding but not killing Rushdie?

    Asking for a friend.

  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    Here is a very high IQ Lebanese Christian attacking IQ as pseudoscience based on the not-so-high-IQ strawman argument of supposed correlation between IQ and wealth.

    Obviously IQ correlates with wealth only up to certain point. A stronger argument for IQ is correlation of IQ with STEM academic achievement like math Olympiads.

    A better argument against IQ is that at the outliers may not fit a normal distribution. Otherwise based on higher average Chinese IQ you would see orders of magnitude more Chinese genius outliers than whites, but that has not been the case. East Asians monopolize math Olympiads, but not the pinnacle of math accomplishments like Fields Medal winners.

    • Replies: @ananymous
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Lebenese have high IQ number, don't listen to the rant of this trash writer, a zionist propagandist.

    He is a coward idiot who blocks the voice of those who disagree with his rant targeting young illiterate people, to divert attention from the crimes of the Jewish mafia in the US and the West.

    The attack was designed and carried out by the Aipac and Israel and its army in the US to stage a propaganda campaign in the west spreading hatred against Iranian people to prevent an agreement on JCPOA to go to plan B, a military attack, where they take it with them into their GRAVES.

    Rushdi could be killed by the zionists to implement Israel's plot to stimulate more hatred against Iran and the Muslims, like what Israel did in 9/11. The zionist also killed Arafat when he went to France for treatment and was under CARE. This can be applied to Rushdi as well to spread hatred against Iran and Muslims. Don't trust this trash writer. Israel and US designed and implemented 9/11 killing 3000 American citizens to bring dummies on board to attack Muslims killing millions of people for the Jewish apartheid entity expansionist policy.

    You are a fool if you fall for this zionist propaganda trash at this page.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    IQ is real, significant, but- overrated.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @TelfoedJohn

    Here is a very high IQ Lebanese Christian attacking IQ as pseudoscience based on the not-so-high-IQ strawman argument of supposed correlation between IQ and wealth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXf0VLuQLg

    Obviously IQ correlates with wealth only up to certain point. A stronger argument for IQ is correlation of IQ with STEM academic achievement like math Olympiads.

    A better argument against IQ is that at the outliers may not fit a normal distribution. Otherwise based on higher average Chinese IQ you would see orders of magnitude more Chinese genius outliers than whites, but that has not been the case. East Asians monopolize math Olympiads, but not the pinnacle of math accomplishments like Fields Medal winners.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Bardon Kaldian

    Lebenese have high IQ number, don’t listen to the rant of this trash writer, a zionist propagandist.

    He is a coward idiot who blocks the voice of those who disagree with his rant targeting young illiterate people, to divert attention from the crimes of the Jewish mafia in the US and the West.

    The attack was designed and carried out by the Aipac and Israel and its army in the US to stage a propaganda campaign in the west spreading hatred against Iranian people to prevent an agreement on JCPOA to go to plan B, a military attack, where they take it with them into their GRAVES.

    Rushdi could be killed by the zionists to implement Israel’s plot to stimulate more hatred against Iran and the Muslims, like what Israel did in 9/11. The zionist also killed Arafat when he went to France for treatment and was under CARE. This can be applied to Rushdi as well to spread hatred against Iran and Muslims. Don’t trust this trash writer. Israel and US designed and implemented 9/11 killing 3000 American citizens to bring dummies on board to attack Muslims killing millions of people for the Jewish apartheid entity expansionist policy.

    You are a fool if you fall for this zionist propaganda trash at this page.

  • @anonymous

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    Invade that world, invite the world. This is another casualty from US complicity in the invasion of Palestine. There were thousands on September 11, 2001.

    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.

    Besides, such brain drain leaves those foreign countries even worse off, which both fuels pressure to migrate to Europe and the United States and creates additional excuses for us to invade them. How could you be so shortsighted? Drain the world, maintain the world.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.

    Amazingly, America managed to have the world’s highest standard of living, the world’s leading technology and the world’s largest economy … before the ancestors of the people who constantly tell you how much you Americans suck even showed up.

    • Agree: Rob McX, Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad

    This should be the "pinned tweet" at the top of ... well, pretty much everything.

  • anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Sigh.

    Our nation, our people desperately DESPERATELY needs a political propagandist like Lee Atwater to make ending bad mass immigration the #1 issue, same as Lee Atwater made the release of Black murderer rapist Willie Horton the #1 issue that destroyed MA Lib Democrat governor Mike Dukakis’ presidential campaign crash.

    This is such an easy winning issue for us:

    Keep up inbred, low IQ, ugly, hateful 8th century terrorists, throat cutters, suicide bombers, sexual groomers – people who look, think and act like Muhammed Ata.

    The Swiss People’s Party jumped all over this issue, restrict mass Islamic migrant immigration and the Swiss People’s Party became #1.

    What does the GOP stupid party do? Promote 50 year military interventions, nation building in Afghanistan, alliances with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, let Muhamed Ata go to flight school in Florida, have George Bush Jr be concerned with a “Backlash” against Muslim immigration.

    IT’s not complicated folks. Just do it. FU#&\$## race denying, Islam denying Libertarianism, the US Constitution that doesn’t mention race, culture, Islam.

    How did our people especially our leaders become so stupid?

    It’s not called “The Stupid Party” for nothing.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous


    Our nation, our people desperately DESPERATELY needs a political propagandist like Lee Atwater to make ending bad mass immigration the #1 issue…

    This is such an easy winning issue for us:

    Keep up inbred, low IQ, ugly, hateful 8th century terrorists, throat cutters, suicide bombers, sexual groomers – people who look, think and act like Muhammed Ata.
     
    There’s your mistake. There’s no reason to discriminate against people based on hot buttons like race or religion. There’s no reason to disrespect people or call them names. Just focus on ending mass immigration. We’re full.
  • @JimDandy
    Man, this is almost as bad as the massive network of Israeli Mossad agents who were allowed into America to pose as "art students" and movers before they had the time of their lives celebrating the fall of the twin towers.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Are there any more urban legends you would like to repeat? Spiders eggs in bubble gum?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Jack D

    Who could you possibly think you're fooling here with that act?

  • @TelfoedJohn
    I’ve always been confused as to why Lebanese IQ is so low, 81. One point less than Haiti! What’s going on? The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well, though there is a gold-chain Miami style mentality among some.

    Replies: @Adept, @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri, @The Anti-Gnostic, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    Historically, Christian Lebanese have been moving to the West for at least 150 years and they are a high IQ, essentially white European population. Muslims, especially Shiite goat herders, were historically considered unsuitable for living in the West (for the reasons we are now finding out the hard way) so we had no experience with those.

    What you are saying is like say, “Gee, I don’t know where the stereotype of dumb Polish peasants comes from. All the Polish Jews that I know seem pretty sharp.” You are talking about effectively two different groups.

    • Replies: @ananymous
    @Jack D

    The Polish people have high IQ, more than Russians. Don't trust the trash of this zionist propagandist at this page. I am surprised to see that Unz allows a zionist propagandist to brainwash the illiterate people at this page. This page is run by a racist anti Muslims spreading hatred like Israel lobby and its army Mark dubowitz, a terrorist pro Israel and a liar.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    You are talking about effectively two different groups.
     
    A Texan I knew in Middle East claimed not so sotto voce that Christian Lebanese were the descendants of European Crusaders.

    But I haven't heard that claim so much from the Christian Lebanese themselves. On the contrary, they usually say they were Christians before the Europeans were, so if anything they were the ones bringing the light of Christianity to the benighted Europagans.

    In any case, they did regard themselves as a separate group, not just by creed, from the Muslim Lebanese, especially the Shia Muslims (the Sunnis tend to be more affluent, more educated, more northern, and less numerous).

    Curiously, in expat situations, the Lebanese of different creeds/groups, who were often so hostile domestically, could cheerfully cooperate in ecumenical Lebanese supremacism.
  • @Jack D
    @TelfoedJohn

    Historically, Christian Lebanese have been moving to the West for at least 150 years and they are a high IQ, essentially white European population. Muslims, especially Shiite goat herders, were historically considered unsuitable for living in the West (for the reasons we are now finding out the hard way) so we had no experience with those.

    What you are saying is like say, "Gee, I don't know where the stereotype of dumb Polish peasants comes from. All the Polish Jews that I know seem pretty sharp." You are talking about effectively two different groups.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Almost Missouri

    The Polish people have high IQ, more than Russians. Don’t trust the trash of this zionist propagandist at this page. I am surprised to see that Unz allows a zionist propagandist to brainwash the illiterate people at this page. This page is run by a racist anti Muslims spreading hatred like Israel lobby and its army Mark dubowitz, a terrorist pro Israel and a liar.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @ananymous

    Poles & Jews in Poland could never, with few exceptions, come to terms. That's the way life is.

    https://www.unz.com/article/bitter-tantrums-and-buried-history/

    Bitter Tantrums and Buried History

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/collaboration.pdf

    Jews, Germans and Poles in Occupied Poland during World War II

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/obrona-dobrego-imienia/

    Committee for the Defence and Propagation of the Good Name of Poland and the Poles

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Thelma Ringbaum

  • @Almost Missouri
    @TelfoedJohn


    The Lebs I meet in the West (mainly Christians) don’t seem very dumb, and they do quite well
     
    It's not just the West. You can meet Lebanese almost anywhere in the world, and typically the are outperforming the locals. (E.g., a lot of "indigenous" industry in Africa and South America is actually run by ethnic Lebanese with dual—or sometimes triple—citizenship.)

    Even inside Lebanon itself, my experience has been that most people are capable and bright enough. There is—surprisingly for such a small country—something of an outback where people live more traditional, subsistence lives, such as goat herding. I won't denigrate the intellect of goatherders, but I will note that they probably lack motivation for IQ tests.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn

    a lot of “indigenous” industry in Africa and South America is actually run by ethnic Lebanese with dual—or sometimes triple—citizenship

    Yeah, I noticed this when in West Africa. Some godforsaken town would have a general store or little supermarket, and it would always be Lebs running it. Seems to be a fairly obvious pattern. People with IQ about15 points higher than the country average will end up running the businesses, whether it’s Chinese in Malaysia, Jews in America, Lebs in Africa. If the difference is greater than 15 then the higher IQ group will not want to live there, because the money won’t compensate for the crappier lifestyle.

    Another pattern I found in West Africa was that village chiefs often had an ‘advisor’ who was Indian. They acted as a ‘court Jew’ in relation to business etc. I haven’t seen this written about anywhere.

  • Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:

    More cowbell !!!

    New Minneapolis summer school program helps Afghan students, others new to U.S.

    More than half of the students enrolled in the Newcomer Summer High School program are from Afghanistan.

    By Mara Klecker

    Star Tribune AUGUST 14, 2022 — 3:30PM

    Summer classes ended about two weeks ago for many of Muhammad Tayyeb’s eight children, but they are already asking him when they can go back to class. They want to see their friends and teachers and they’re eager to keep practicing English.

    The Tayyeb children are some of more than 200 Afghan students who have enrolled in Minneapolis Public Schools within the past year. Many of their families fled Afghanistan in the days and weeks after Taliban forces seized control of the capital city of Kabul in August 2021.

    Tayyeb, the district’s cultural facilitator and Afghan support head, works as a translator and liaison to these 50 or so families, and he helped spread the word about the Newcomer Summer High School program — a new offering for Minneapolis high-schoolers new to the United States. Afghan students made up the majority of the 70 or so high schoolers in the program held at South High School.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    It's the Feast Of The Assumption, the fatal day for General Samsonov in 1914.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1914_(novel)

    Live from Ukraine, beautiful singing. May they and their families all come through unharmed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufUiLhU_YhY

    Replies: @Alden

    Yes, it’s the day August 15 that Mary Jesus’ mother died and went directly to heaven.

    Catholic Holy Day in August the August Atlantic Monthly has an article about the most Maryish Roman Catholic icon of all time; the rosary.

    The minion of Satan who writes for The Atlantic claims that the rosary is the sacred symbol of White supremacy fundamentalist Christianity and right wing militias. Funny, the only rosaries I ever see dangle from the mirrors of cars and trucks belonging to Hispanics. And I occasionally see an older Hispanic woman with one wrapped around the wrist. So can she can pray Hail Mary while waiting in a supermarket line.

    The Atlantic follows the grand tradition of Henry 8 , Thomas Cromwell and their Pursuivants. Aka fanatic puritans authorized to raid any dwelling or building to seize and destroy any and all Roman Catholic icons.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Thanks: Hibernian
  • Any ol’ PoS can now get into the country.

    • Replies: @Fhjhddhh
    @VivaLaMigra

    Give us your tiresome, your sores
    Your goat ropers yearning to slit throats

  • @Jack D
    @TelfoedJohn

    Historically, Christian Lebanese have been moving to the West for at least 150 years and they are a high IQ, essentially white European population. Muslims, especially Shiite goat herders, were historically considered unsuitable for living in the West (for the reasons we are now finding out the hard way) so we had no experience with those.

    What you are saying is like say, "Gee, I don't know where the stereotype of dumb Polish peasants comes from. All the Polish Jews that I know seem pretty sharp." You are talking about effectively two different groups.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Almost Missouri

    You are talking about effectively two different groups.

    A Texan I knew in Middle East claimed not so sotto voce that Christian Lebanese were the descendants of European Crusaders.

    But I haven’t heard that claim so much from the Christian Lebanese themselves. On the contrary, they usually say they were Christians before the Europeans were, so if anything they were the ones bringing the light of Christianity to the benighted Europagans.

    In any case, they did regard themselves as a separate group, not just by creed, from the Muslim Lebanese, especially the Shia Muslims (the Sunnis tend to be more affluent, more educated, more northern, and less numerous).

    Curiously, in expat situations, the Lebanese of different creeds/groups, who were often so hostile domestically, could cheerfully cooperate in ecumenical Lebanese supremacism.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    Women and minorities hit hardest:

    New Study Finds Men May Outlive Women Instead

    Replies: @prosa123

    Here are the latest obituaries from my hometown newspaper:

    Male, 83. Puerto Rican.
    Male, 74. “Courageous battle with cancer.”
    Male, 88.
    Male, 84,
    Male, 79.
    Female, 68.
    Female, 92.
    Female, 88.
    Female, 87.
    Male, 89.
    Female, 87.
    Female, 71.
    Female, 80. Black.
    Male, 46. Contributions to epilepsy charity, possible cause of death.
    Female 80.
    Male, 99.
    Male, 97.
    Female, 77.
    Female, 93.

    Not sure there is much of a pattern.

  • The Australians imported a load of trouble from Lebanon in the 1980s. They thought they were getting Christian doctors and engineers but instead acquired a load of Muslim peasants, with all the usual attendant problems.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous


    The Australians imported a load of trouble from Lebanon in the 1980s. They thought they were getting Christian doctors and engineers but instead acquired a load of Muslim peasants, with all the usual attendant problems.
     
    Better a load of Muslim peasants than foreign doctors and engineers, who will take the reins of society from you and turn you into an underclass. European-derived people make for fine doctors and engineers.
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

    2005 Cronulla riots

  • Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Sigh.

    Our nation, our people desperately DESPERATELY needs a political propagandist like Lee Atwater to make ending bad mass immigration the #1 issue, same as Lee Atwater made the release of Black murderer rapist Willie Horton the #1 issue that destroyed MA Lib Democrat governor Mike Dukakis' presidential campaign crash.

    This is such an easy winning issue for us:

    Keep up inbred, low IQ, ugly, hateful 8th century terrorists, throat cutters, suicide bombers, sexual groomers - people who look, think and act like Muhammed Ata.

    The Swiss People's Party jumped all over this issue, restrict mass Islamic migrant immigration and the Swiss People's Party became #1.

    What does the GOP stupid party do? Promote 50 year military interventions, nation building in Afghanistan, alliances with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, let Muhamed Ata go to flight school in Florida, have George Bush Jr be concerned with a "Backlash" against Muslim immigration.

    IT's not complicated folks. Just do it. FU#&$## race denying, Islam denying Libertarianism, the US Constitution that doesn't mention race, culture, Islam.

    How did our people especially our leaders become so stupid?

    It's not called "The Stupid Party" for nothing.

    Replies: @Anon

    Our nation, our people desperately DESPERATELY needs a political propagandist like Lee Atwater to make ending bad mass immigration the #1 issue…

    This is such an easy winning issue for us:

    Keep up inbred, low IQ, ugly, hateful 8th century terrorists, throat cutters, suicide bombers, sexual groomers – people who look, think and act like Muhammed Ata.

    There’s your mistake. There’s no reason to discriminate against people based on hot buttons like race or religion. There’s no reason to disrespect people or call them names. Just focus on ending mass immigration. We’re full.

  • Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    The Australians imported a load of trouble from Lebanon in the 1980s. They thought they were getting Christian doctors and engineers but instead acquired a load of Muslim peasants, with all the usual attendant problems.

    Replies: @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian

    The Australians imported a load of trouble from Lebanon in the 1980s. They thought they were getting Christian doctors and engineers but instead acquired a load of Muslim peasants, with all the usual attendant problems.

    Better a load of Muslim peasants than foreign doctors and engineers, who will take the reins of society from you and turn you into an underclass. European-derived people make for fine doctors and engineers.

  • Lebanon: site of a literal wedding photobomb. Fun fact, the bride is a physician who assisted injured people while still wearing her wedding dress.

  • @VivaLaMigra
    Any ol' PoS can now get into the country.

    Replies: @Fhjhddhh

    Give us your tiresome, your sores
    Your goat ropers yearning to slit throats

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @TelfoedJohn

    Here is a very high IQ Lebanese Christian attacking IQ as pseudoscience based on the not-so-high-IQ strawman argument of supposed correlation between IQ and wealth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXf0VLuQLg

    Obviously IQ correlates with wealth only up to certain point. A stronger argument for IQ is correlation of IQ with STEM academic achievement like math Olympiads.

    A better argument against IQ is that at the outliers may not fit a normal distribution. Otherwise based on higher average Chinese IQ you would see orders of magnitude more Chinese genius outliers than whites, but that has not been the case. East Asians monopolize math Olympiads, but not the pinnacle of math accomplishments like Fields Medal winners.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Bardon Kaldian

    IQ is real, significant, but- overrated.

  • @Anonymous
    The Australians imported a load of trouble from Lebanon in the 1980s. They thought they were getting Christian doctors and engineers but instead acquired a load of Muslim peasants, with all the usual attendant problems.

    Replies: @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian

  • @AnotherDad
    @anonymous


    By the way, Steve: We don’t need to be scouring alien populations to find and import “the highest potential human capital.” Americans are capable enough.
     
    Amazingly, America managed to have the world's highest standard of living, the world's leading technology and the world's largest economy ... before the ancestors of the people who constantly tell you how much you Americans suck even showed up.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    This should be the “pinned tweet” at the top of … well, pretty much everything.

  • @ananymous
    @Jack D

    The Polish people have high IQ, more than Russians. Don't trust the trash of this zionist propagandist at this page. I am surprised to see that Unz allows a zionist propagandist to brainwash the illiterate people at this page. This page is run by a racist anti Muslims spreading hatred like Israel lobby and its army Mark dubowitz, a terrorist pro Israel and a liar.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Poles & Jews in Poland could never, with few exceptions, come to terms. That’s the way life is.

    https://www.unz.com/article/bitter-tantrums-and-buried-history/

    Bitter Tantrums and Buried History

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/collaboration.pdf

    Jews, Germans and Poles in Occupied Poland during World War II

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/obrona-dobrego-imienia/

    Committee for the Defence and Propagation of the Good Name of Poland and the Poles

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Let's just quote - not too much- from reliable sources:

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/Jewish-Attitudes-7.doc

    The candid admissions of some Jews rescued by Poles are particularly illuminating. When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
    Historian Szymon Datner recorded the following statement by a Jewish woman whom he values highly for her honesty and courage: “I am not at all sure that I would give a bowl of food to a Pole if it could mean death for me and my daughter.

    Janka Altman, a survivor of the Janowska concentration camp in Lwów who was sheltered, among other places, in an orphanage in Poronin near Zakopane, together with other Jewish children, wrote in 1978: Today with the perspective of time, I am full of admiration for the courage and dedication … of all those Poles who in those times, day in, day out, put their lives on the line. I do not know if we Jews, in the face of the tragedy of another nation, would be equally capable of this kind of sacrifice.
    .........................................

    Paul Gottfried, a respected professor of humanities at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania, has offered the following valuable insight about this growing phenomenon in the so-called “liberal” media:

    Allow me to conclude this gloomy account of ethnic hostility by noting two other features of recent anti-Polish outbursts. First, not all of those who propagate these truncated histories are Polish Jews, and the publishers and editors of those Canadian newspapers that have put out the worst slanders have identifiably WASP names. Why such people would take sides in an unseemly war between the first and second most victimized groups of the Nazi era may seem at first blush a bit baffling, but the explanation may be that like most WASPs of my acquaintance, these particular journalists have a desperate desire to be p.c. [politically correct]. Confessing to anti-Semitic crimes that one has not committed has become a litmus test of who is or is not a right-thinking goy, and for a bien-pensant WASP, the most convenient way to perform this penance is to call attention to insensitive ethnic Catholics. That way two birds are killed at the same time, engaging in liberal self-flagellation and sticking it to a group whom WASPs have always disliked far more than Jews. Thus publishers and reviewers, not all of them Jewish, praised the veracity of Jerzy Kosinski’s The Painted Bird, a pseudo-autobiography by a bogus holocaust survivor, which first caused a stir in the 1960’s. The vivid accounts of Polish peasant atrocities against Jews hiding from the Germans were here invented out of whole cloth. The real Kosinski and his family had been protected by Polish Catholic neighbors … and had supported the Soviets when they occupied their town in 1944. Last Easter the Toronto Star demonstrated my thesis of WASP atonement by warning Christians not to be too pleased about the Resurrection of their Savior. “The message of the Resurrection,” explained the editorial, had led to massacres of Jews in the past, as had been the case in Catholic Poland. The best documented refutations of these charges against the Poles that I have seen did not get published in the Star’s letter section. They might have interfered with the p.c. penance being performed at the expense of those despised by liberal Protestants.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Nah, Jews and Converts were the backbone of Polish society till at least 1950s. Basically, most Polish cities originate as German-Jewish things. Thats how Poland was more cultured place than Russia in 19th century. Russia had not enough Germans for city life, and no Jews at all back then.

  • @anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    Up to the point of the Ukraine War, Russia was vigorously trying to broker a peace deal between Iran and the US. It made me believe that the posturing before the war was a bluff. Now Russia and Iran are military allies and Russia is sure to continuously supply weapons to Iran if war breaks out between Iran and the US. (And China is being pushed to buy even more oil from Iran because of tensions with the US over Taiwan.) There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war. However, Iran will now be much better prepared because foolish neocons lack the ability to think hard and decided to pursue 3 major confrontations at the same time (Iran, Russia, and China). Plus, the US will conduct a giant military drill in South Korea soon to warn North Korea.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war.

    The neocons and Israelis wish they could wage war on Iran. But what can they actually do? They can’t invade it. Airstrikes aren’t going to work. (Especially once Russia gives Iran advanced S-400 and S-500 anti-air defense systems.) They’ve already shot their wad with every sanction under the sun (and these will be easily evaded with the help of Russia.)

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    The method will be starvation causing capitulation.

    The war against Iran will be conducted through a year long bombing campaign of Iranian cities and blockade of the Iranian coast. Starvation of the civlian population will be the goal. If 1 or 2 million Iranians die of starvation, they will probably surrender. Iranians are very tough but not superhuman like in Yemen. While at the same time a ground war in Iraq and Syria where Iranian proxies roam will be fought. It is necessary to keep US troops in Syria and Iraq so that Iranian munitions are not resupplied to militias at the border of Israel. It is going to be a huge effort, creating a strain for the US military several times worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. There will be no doubt in Washington the war is worth it. Protecting Israel from nuclear destruction is more important than any other concern.

    Replies: @anonymous

  • @Ralph L
    I read somewhere that Rushdie got 15 wounds. How did the goatherd's son manage to avoid killing him?

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker

    Rushdie was given first aid by a doctor who was in the lecture audience. Otherwise he probably would have died on the spot.

  • @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    The Lebanese Christians followed the Church’s strictures on cousin-marriage. I’ve remarked before about a Lebanese I knew who told me their priests would refuse to marry a couple from the same village. If you wanted to marry in the Church, you had to go to the next village over or elsewhere.
     
    I suppose cousin marriage is the Near East's answer to primogeniture - a way to keep one's possessions be they lands or flocks or whatever in your direct line and not losing your legacy to outmarriage by ensuring that both sides of your descendants' lines are from the fruit of your own loins.

    In the West, primogeniture probably led to entrepreneurship and foreign adventure/colonialism - the second and third sons and so forth needed something to do, and they were probably as smart and talented as the first son who inherited the great estate. So they build factories or seek commissions in the Royal Navy or Royal Army and subdue chunks of entire continents and engage in mercantile trade with the Mother nation to make their own fame and fortunes by other means.

    Serial cousin marriage seems to have the inverse effect, and you wind up with dumb, ugly, angry people before accounting for horrible congenital birth defects.

    Replies: @Alden

    Only about 400 English families had primogeniture, land and fortunes Most English colonizers were convicts, indentured servants, adventurers, insane wanna be jews religious fanatics, and drifters.

    Same for other European countries. The city and province of Hamburg Germany emptied out all the city jails and provincial prisons once a year from about 1640 right up to WW1. Because of malaria, yellow fever cholera and other tropical diseases France found it impossible to colonize the southern part of Louisiana territory. So the government finally resorted to sending what America terms non violent youthful offenders to New Orleans, Biloxi and Mobile.

    Africans weren’t the only people who were chained up when sent to America.

  • @notsaying
    How did they end up getting to the US? Mom says all her family was here. Maybe a sibling sponsored her. Pretty strange Dad returned after the divorce. Did he want to avoid child support that much? I saw at the Daily Mail that Mom said she is cutting son out of her life.

    'I just cannot believe he was capable of doing something like this. He was very quiet, everyone loved him. As I said to the FBI I'm not going to bother talking to him again. He's responsible for his actions.

    'I have another two minors that I need to take care of. They are upset, they're shocked. All we can do is try to move on from this, without him.'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110905/Mother-alleged-Salman-Rushdie-attacker-says-son-responsible-actions.html

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

    Pretty strange Dad returned after the divorce. Did he want to avoid child support that much?

    I wondered the same thing. The US is renowned for the harshness of its child support laws – notably calculations based on imputed earnings, and jail if you don’t pay. If the bills are unpayable, life as a goat herder in an outhouse country might be more attractive.

  • @Bardon Kaldian
    @ananymous

    Poles & Jews in Poland could never, with few exceptions, come to terms. That's the way life is.

    https://www.unz.com/article/bitter-tantrums-and-buried-history/

    Bitter Tantrums and Buried History

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/collaboration.pdf

    Jews, Germans and Poles in Occupied Poland during World War II

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/obrona-dobrego-imienia/

    Committee for the Defence and Propagation of the Good Name of Poland and the Poles

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Thelma Ringbaum

    Let’s just quote – not too much- from reliable sources:

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/Jewish-Attitudes-7.doc

    The candid admissions of some Jews rescued by Poles are particularly illuminating. When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
    Historian Szymon Datner recorded the following statement by a Jewish woman whom he values highly for her honesty and courage: “I am not at all sure that I would give a bowl of food to a Pole if it could mean death for me and my daughter.

    Janka Altman, a survivor of the Janowska concentration camp in Lwów who was sheltered, among other places, in an orphanage in Poronin near Zakopane, together with other Jewish children, wrote in 1978: Today with the perspective of time, I am full of admiration for the courage and dedication … of all those Poles who in those times, day in, day out, put their lives on the line. I do not know if we Jews, in the face of the tragedy of another nation, would be equally capable of this kind of sacrifice.
    …………………………………..

    Paul Gottfried, a respected professor of humanities at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania, has offered the following valuable insight about this growing phenomenon in the so-called “liberal” media:

    Allow me to conclude this gloomy account of ethnic hostility by noting two other features of recent anti-Polish outbursts. First, not all of those who propagate these truncated histories are Polish Jews, and the publishers and editors of those Canadian newspapers that have put out the worst slanders have identifiably WASP names. Why such people would take sides in an unseemly war between the first and second most victimized groups of the Nazi era may seem at first blush a bit baffling, but the explanation may be that like most WASPs of my acquaintance, these particular journalists have a desperate desire to be p.c. [politically correct]. Confessing to anti-Semitic crimes that one has not committed has become a litmus test of who is or is not a right-thinking goy, and for a bien-pensant WASP, the most convenient way to perform this penance is to call attention to insensitive ethnic Catholics. That way two birds are killed at the same time, engaging in liberal self-flagellation and sticking it to a group whom WASPs have always disliked far more than Jews. Thus publishers and reviewers, not all of them Jewish, praised the veracity of Jerzy Kosinski’s The Painted Bird, a pseudo-autobiography by a bogus holocaust survivor, which first caused a stir in the 1960’s. The vivid accounts of Polish peasant atrocities against Jews hiding from the Germans were here invented out of whole cloth. The real Kosinski and his family had been protected by Polish Catholic neighbors … and had supported the Soviets when they occupied their town in 1944. Last Easter the Toronto Star demonstrated my thesis of WASP atonement by warning Christians not to be too pleased about the Resurrection of their Savior. “The message of the Resurrection,” explained the editorial, had led to massacres of Jews in the past, as had been the case in Catholic Poland. The best documented refutations of these charges against the Poles that I have seen did not get published in the Star’s letter section. They might have interfered with the p.c. penance being performed at the expense of those despised by liberal Protestants.

    • Thanks: bombthe3gorgesdam
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
     
    When have Jews so much as thanked Americans and other Anglosphere peoples for the sacrifices they made in stopping Germany in World War II? Where are the annual commemorations? Where are the memorials? Where even is a common current of gratitude, appreciation, and affection in informal quotidian discourse and sentiment?

    These things are remarkable for their absence.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean

  • Wait what? Isnt the Lebanese Goatherd a Caucasian, racially?

    And whats wrong with being a goatherd, arent our glorious Western Ukrainians also racial swineheards ?

    My HBD theory falls apart now.

  • @Bardon Kaldian
    @ananymous

    Poles & Jews in Poland could never, with few exceptions, come to terms. That's the way life is.

    https://www.unz.com/article/bitter-tantrums-and-buried-history/

    Bitter Tantrums and Buried History

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/collaboration.pdf

    Jews, Germans and Poles in Occupied Poland during World War II

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/obrona-dobrego-imienia/

    Committee for the Defence and Propagation of the Good Name of Poland and the Poles

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Thelma Ringbaum

    Nah, Jews and Converts were the backbone of Polish society till at least 1950s. Basically, most Polish cities originate as German-Jewish things. Thats how Poland was more cultured place than Russia in 19th century. Russia had not enough Germans for city life, and no Jews at all back then.

  • Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Let's just quote - not too much- from reliable sources:

    http://www.kpk-toronto.org/wp-content/uploads/Jewish-Attitudes-7.doc

    The candid admissions of some Jews rescued by Poles are particularly illuminating. When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
    Historian Szymon Datner recorded the following statement by a Jewish woman whom he values highly for her honesty and courage: “I am not at all sure that I would give a bowl of food to a Pole if it could mean death for me and my daughter.

    Janka Altman, a survivor of the Janowska concentration camp in Lwów who was sheltered, among other places, in an orphanage in Poronin near Zakopane, together with other Jewish children, wrote in 1978: Today with the perspective of time, I am full of admiration for the courage and dedication … of all those Poles who in those times, day in, day out, put their lives on the line. I do not know if we Jews, in the face of the tragedy of another nation, would be equally capable of this kind of sacrifice.
    .........................................

    Paul Gottfried, a respected professor of humanities at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania, has offered the following valuable insight about this growing phenomenon in the so-called “liberal” media:

    Allow me to conclude this gloomy account of ethnic hostility by noting two other features of recent anti-Polish outbursts. First, not all of those who propagate these truncated histories are Polish Jews, and the publishers and editors of those Canadian newspapers that have put out the worst slanders have identifiably WASP names. Why such people would take sides in an unseemly war between the first and second most victimized groups of the Nazi era may seem at first blush a bit baffling, but the explanation may be that like most WASPs of my acquaintance, these particular journalists have a desperate desire to be p.c. [politically correct]. Confessing to anti-Semitic crimes that one has not committed has become a litmus test of who is or is not a right-thinking goy, and for a bien-pensant WASP, the most convenient way to perform this penance is to call attention to insensitive ethnic Catholics. That way two birds are killed at the same time, engaging in liberal self-flagellation and sticking it to a group whom WASPs have always disliked far more than Jews. Thus publishers and reviewers, not all of them Jewish, praised the veracity of Jerzy Kosinski’s The Painted Bird, a pseudo-autobiography by a bogus holocaust survivor, which first caused a stir in the 1960’s. The vivid accounts of Polish peasant atrocities against Jews hiding from the Germans were here invented out of whole cloth. The real Kosinski and his family had been protected by Polish Catholic neighbors … and had supported the Soviets when they occupied their town in 1944. Last Easter the Toronto Star demonstrated my thesis of WASP atonement by warning Christians not to be too pleased about the Resurrection of their Savior. “The message of the Resurrection,” explained the editorial, had led to massacres of Jews in the past, as had been the case in Catholic Poland. The best documented refutations of these charges against the Poles that I have seen did not get published in the Star’s letter section. They might have interfered with the p.c. penance being performed at the expense of those despised by liberal Protestants.

    Replies: @Anon

    When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.

    When have Jews so much as thanked Americans and other Anglosphere peoples for the sacrifices they made in stopping Germany in World War II? Where are the annual commemorations? Where are the memorials? Where even is a common current of gratitude, appreciation, and affection in informal quotidian discourse and sentiment?

    These things are remarkable for their absence.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    "Saving Private Ryan"?

    , @Sean
    @Anon

    https://youtu.be/eYLHhtMGdco?t=47

    The US did it on its own account.

  • @YetAnotherAnon
    @Zero Philosopher

    "You don’t see many Scots hacking people in London over Scotland not having been granted independence…"

    But.. a lot of English who move to Scotland find the natives distinctly unfriendly, even now. I remember decades ago visiting a Scottish friend in Lewis (still Gaelic-speaking place) and bumping into some English hippy types who said the neighbours really didn't like them. Sadly, the only way in which they can counter this is by grouping together, which is how ghettoes form and which was probably the experience of black and Asian people in England and Wales.

    I honestly think that a lot of Scots would prefer a black or Asian family next door to an English one - at least for the first few months.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/08/scottish-referendum-horror-movie-white-settlers

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-little-england-over-the-water-white-settlers-make-up-15-of-skye-s-population-1450967.html

    https://www.quora.com/How-welcome-are-English-people-in-Scotland-I-want-to-move-there-in-the-future-but-I-am-worried-I-may-not-be-welcome-as-I-know-the-English-and-the-Scottish-have-a-long-and-complicated-history

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

    It’s one thing to be resentful, it’s another to be uncivilized. Scots might be resentful of not having been granted independence, but their resentfulness seldom manifests as murder, either one-on-one or in genocide. Muslims, conversely, take resentment to truly Medieval levels of blood feuds. And they never forgive or forget. Semitic peoples are like that. Muslim Arabs will never forgive Americans for having invaded their lands, just like Jews will never forgive Germans for the Holocaust. Part of being a Semite is never forgetting or forgiving. It’s who they are.

  • @slumber_j
    @AnotherDad

    Well, the dude's surname "Matar" literally does mean "to kill" in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.

    Replies: @ananymous, @Cato

    the dude’s surname “Matar” literally does mean “to kill” in Spanish. Probably a coincidence tho.

    Definitely a coincidence. But even more bizarre, his given name “Hadi” means “let’s go” in Turkish: “Let’s go kill”…

    Come to think of it, might be a highly estimable name for a jihadi.

  • @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
     
    When have Jews so much as thanked Americans and other Anglosphere peoples for the sacrifices they made in stopping Germany in World War II? Where are the annual commemorations? Where are the memorials? Where even is a common current of gratitude, appreciation, and affection in informal quotidian discourse and sentiment?

    These things are remarkable for their absence.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean

    “Saving Private Ryan”?

  • @AndrewR
    @anonymous

    There is absolutely zero chance Trump will be in office in 2025. Leaving aside his age and presumably less than ideal health, which make death or severe disability relatively likely over the course of the next 29 months, we saw how "fortified" the 2020 election was. I also suspect that he would receive fewer votes, both electoral and popular, in 2024, "fortification" aside. Finally there is the very real possibility he will be in prison or at least permanently barred from holding federal office by then.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    You left out “assassinated” in 2023 – if the midterms really are a disaster for the Democrats, the Deep State playbook certainly includes murder.

  • @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    When pressed on this point, some Jews have stated that they are not sure that they would risk their own lives to save Poles, and are quite certain that they would not endanger their children. Yet this is the standard by which Poles, and only Poles—several thousand of whom lost their lives helping Jews, are judged.
     
    When have Jews so much as thanked Americans and other Anglosphere peoples for the sacrifices they made in stopping Germany in World War II? Where are the annual commemorations? Where are the memorials? Where even is a common current of gratitude, appreciation, and affection in informal quotidian discourse and sentiment?

    These things are remarkable for their absence.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean

    The US did it on its own account.

  • @Jack D
    @JimDandy

    Are there any more urban legends you would like to repeat? Spiders eggs in bubble gum?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Who could you possibly think you’re fooling here with that act?

  • “Goat herders are stupid”, says clever man who hid in a closet for two years.

  • anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    There is no way that Israel and the US will accept the existential risk to Israel of Iran with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver the nukes. There will be a war.
     
    The neocons and Israelis wish they could wage war on Iran. But what can they actually do? They can't invade it. Airstrikes aren't going to work. (Especially once Russia gives Iran advanced S-400 and S-500 anti-air defense systems.) They've already shot their wad with every sanction under the sun (and these will be easily evaded with the help of Russia.)

    Replies: @anonymous

    The method will be starvation causing capitulation.

    The war against Iran will be conducted through a year long bombing campaign of Iranian cities and blockade of the Iranian coast. Starvation of the civlian population will be the goal. If 1 or 2 million Iranians die of starvation, they will probably surrender. Iranians are very tough but not superhuman like in Yemen. While at the same time a ground war in Iraq and Syria where Iranian proxies roam will be fought. It is necessary to keep US troops in Syria and Iraq so that Iranian munitions are not resupplied to militias at the border of Israel. It is going to be a huge effort, creating a strain for the US military several times worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. There will be no doubt in Washington the war is worth it. Protecting Israel from nuclear destruction is more important than any other concern.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @anonymous

    [It is necessary to keep US troops in Syria and Iraq so that Iranian munitions are not resupplied to militias at the border of Israel. It is going to be a huge effort, creating a strain for the US military several times worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. There will be no doubt in Washington the war is worth it. Protecting Israel from nuclear destruction is more important than any other concern.]

    You racist zionist terrorists, will take this wish into your graves. When you give this opportunity to the people of great civilization like Iranians, then you have given the permission that your small balls be chopped off and put it in your mouth to suffocate, since you dummies don't deserve bullets or drones, although Iranians have all and more cowards. Fuck off from the region or face destruction.

    Pay the stolen money of Afghani people, 7 billion dollars, back now. Given the stolen money of Iran back and give the stolen Gold of Venezuela back. How do you want to wage a war with a broken economy when you are feeding yourself on stolen assets of other countries? You are a thief and terrorist. You feed your population on stolen money from many countries including Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan? Your printer cannot print $$$$ 24 hours for 100 years, soon will stop working when the $$$ is not a world currency where it not that far dummies. Then you should be licking each other's behinds to feed yourselves.
    Before writing your garbage, put your hand on your empty head and squeeze, if is lucky then you may get small amount shit out of your brain telling you how stupid you are bastards.

    If you don't post it, mr trash writer, you are a coward and a racist.

  • @Dumbo
    What's the problem with being a goat herder? It wouldn't be a problem if he kept to his occupation. Preferably in Lebanon, as goat herding doesn't have much future in the US.

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that's arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn't work. It's not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they're not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually "needed" in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Veteran Aryan, @anonymouseperson

    …goat herding doesn’t have much future in the US.

    Surprise! Goat herding is actually a plum job for seasonal workers. Five hundred a week plus room and board (admittedly camping style). These are prize jobs that people return to year after year.

    https://seasonaljobs.dol.gov/jobs/H-300-22080-996248

  • anonymous[450] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    The method will be starvation causing capitulation.

    The war against Iran will be conducted through a year long bombing campaign of Iranian cities and blockade of the Iranian coast. Starvation of the civlian population will be the goal. If 1 or 2 million Iranians die of starvation, they will probably surrender. Iranians are very tough but not superhuman like in Yemen. While at the same time a ground war in Iraq and Syria where Iranian proxies roam will be fought. It is necessary to keep US troops in Syria and Iraq so that Iranian munitions are not resupplied to militias at the border of Israel. It is going to be a huge effort, creating a strain for the US military several times worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. There will be no doubt in Washington the war is worth it. Protecting Israel from nuclear destruction is more important than any other concern.

    Replies: @anonymous

    [It is necessary to keep US troops in Syria and Iraq so that Iranian munitions are not resupplied to militias at the border of Israel. It is going to be a huge effort, creating a strain for the US military several times worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. There will be no doubt in Washington the war is worth it. Protecting Israel from nuclear destruction is more important than any other concern.]

    You racist zionist terrorists, will take this wish into your graves. When you give this opportunity to the people of great civilization like Iranians, then you have given the permission that your small balls be chopped off and put it in your mouth to suffocate, since you dummies don’t deserve bullets or drones, although Iranians have all and more cowards. Fuck off from the region or face destruction.

    Pay the stolen money of Afghani people, 7 billion dollars, back now. Given the stolen money of Iran back and give the stolen Gold of Venezuela back. How do you want to wage a war with a broken economy when you are feeding yourself on stolen assets of other countries? You are a thief and terrorist. You feed your population on stolen money from many countries including Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan? Your printer cannot print \$\$\$\$ 24 hours for 100 years, soon will stop working when the \$\$\$ is not a world currency where it not that far dummies. Then you should be licking each other’s behinds to feed yourselves.
    Before writing your garbage, put your hand on your empty head and squeeze, if is lucky then you may get small amount shit out of your brain telling you how stupid you are bastards.

    If you don’t post it, mr trash writer, you are a coward and a racist.

  • You think America is bad? You should see Canada.

  • @Polistra
    @AnotherDad


    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital.
     
    When you consider its purpose, our current immigration policy is working exactly as intended. Wrecking the employment market with ultra-cheap labor, transform the electorate with millions of permanent underclass voters, and inundate the people whose ancestors built the country with utterly foreign and unassimilated millions ...

    Replies: @anonymouseperson

    Guess what ethnic group is behind it all?

  • @Dumbo
    What's the problem with being a goat herder? It wouldn't be a problem if he kept to his occupation. Preferably in Lebanon, as goat herding doesn't have much future in the US.

    Our immigration system sure does a bang-up job of finding America only the highest potential human capital. Great job, everybody!
     
    They do bring some clever Chinese (Californian universities these days are 80% Asian, I think), but that's arguably worse. Civ Nat doesn't work. It's not a question of finding smart, high IQ people, because they're not going to be loyal or lead to a cohesive society anyway. Immigration is not usually "needed" in any country, except in very particular occasions. So the push for constant immigration in itself is bad.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Veteran Aryan, @anonymouseperson

    Immigration currently is about replacement.

  • @Reg Cæsar

    Salman Rushdie's Attacker Is the Son of a Lebanese Goatherd
     
    But is he lonely?


    https://youtu.be/UmmOJx_Hxto


    And what happened to all the horny goat weed? Is there a supply chain bottleneck? (Luckily, you can grow your own.)

    A bike shop owner recently told me he'd had supply-chain issues which could delay repairs. Earlier that day, I had chatted with a Ural motorcycle dealer. I told the bike, guy be thankful you're not in that business.

    Replies: @BB753

    Goat and sheep herding are valuable skills to have. They are in great demand in Europe.

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