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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

The Future of Floydism
Steve Sailer

May 25, 2021

Gun murders are up 34.4 percent in the 365 days since George Floyd’s death.

According to data scraped from Gun Violence Archive, in the Year One B.F. (Before Floyd) from May 25, 2019, to May 24, 2020, there were 13,024 murders committed with a firearm in the U.S.

In contrast, in the Year One A.F. (After Floyd) from May 25, 2020, to May 24, 2021, there were 17,499 gun murders, an increase of 4,475 corpses. (In contrast, the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.)

That’s a lot of blood that our new state religion, the worship of the holy martyr George Floyd and his racial brethren, has on its hands. …

So, that’s what the first year of the Floyd Era was like: mayhem on the streets of black America.

What will the future of Floydism be?

I offer some suggestions. You can read them there.

 
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  1. One advantage of non-elite Hispanics; they don’t give a shit about Blacks.

  2. Anonymous[513] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Anonymous

    Rewarded for good behavior!

  3. the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.

    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders

    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.

    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Polistra

    Social historian J.C. Furnas, an old-school Harvard -educated liberal, BTW, once estimated that just a quick, cursory examination of lynching cases indicated that at least 2/3 to 3/4 were in all probability guilty, which doesn't mean the rest were innocent I'm sure some mistakes may have been made, and that's tragic. I'm sure the vast majority were deserving of their fate.

    An lynchings were usually only for rape and/or murder. You didn't get lynched for overdue library books.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Peter Sellers
    @Polistra

    Cry more snowflake

    Imagine having all the wealth and property handed to you on a silver platter and terrorizing People of Color and then getting upset when called on it.

    Can’t handle the truth huh?

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Charon, @anon

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Polistra


    How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?


     

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”

    Replies: @Barnard, @William Badwhite

    , @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    , @Anon
    @Polistra


    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?
     
    They've been telling you for a while now. Get on board with Diversity, Inclusion, Equity (DIE).
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Polistra

    https://twitter.com/LokiJulianus/status/1396846318258098177
    https://twitter.com/LokiJulianus/status/1396851812766994436

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-end-of-gentrification/#comment-3973576

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Alfa158
    @Polistra

    I think it’s been made pretty clear that the remaining White people are supposed to go into extinction through low fertility, inter-breeding, murder and marginalization. After decades of trying equal opportunities, affirmative action, civil rights, welfare transfers and now equity, it has become obvious those measures will never close the gap with Whites. That can never be acceptable so the next measure is to reduce Whites to an insignificant portion of all populations. By simple logic if there are no Whites, then there can be no gap with them. Problem solved.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Polistra

    There will be nowhere for them to go. Once blacks turn Europe into Africa there will be no good place for anybody. The whole world will be an equal shithole.

    But it will be equal. That's the 'good' news.

  4. The Civil Rights Act as a major factor to stop the Baby Boom. US-blacks as on average more aggressive and less bright than whites (Charles Murray’s new book soon to be out).

    PC as a tool to humiliate rational (=rather educated (=foremost white & Asian reasoning (discourse…)) via woke Stalinism.

    The dynamic spreading from the African population growth (=cf. Our World’s  Most Important Graph) – in not yet quite foreseeable directions.

    The George Floyd event as something that caused all these factors/findings to intermingle in a rather destructive way. –

    – Hey Mr. Sailer: Unfortunately you did not mention CO-19 in your summary – because that could have possibly cheered us readers up a bit here!

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Dieter Kief


    The Civil Rights Act as a major factor to stop the Baby Boom...
     
    That struck me too, Dieter, as an amazing intuition on Steve's part (in a column that already has an ample share of amazements).

    I've never heard it before, in this forum or anywhere. But I'd like to know more about it. If you're listening, Steve, you hit on something potentially profound with this idea about the "coincidence" of the end of the (White) Baby Boom and the beginning of the (black) Civil Rights Era. Was it just a shot in the dark? Or a preview of something you have in the works?
  5. “The future of Floydism”? What is it about, if not the Benjamins?

    Come in here dear boy have a cigar
    You’re gonna go far, you’re gonna fly high
    You’re never gonna die
    You’re gonna make it if you try
    They’re gonna love you
    Well I’ve always had a deep respect
    And I mean that most sincerely
    The band is just fantastic
    That is really what I think
    Oh by the way, which one’s Pink?
    And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
    We call it Riding the Gravy Train

  6. The problem with an Emily Litella “Oh, never mind” resolution to the current worship of Blackness is that it will never be accepted by the Black community. That’s not a genie that’s going back into the bottle, ever. I really don’t see how this can end well.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @kaganovitch

    This is not going to end well at all.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  7. It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.

    British aristocracy?

    Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training. American institutions have been hungry for adept blacks since the 1960s, with numerous diversity pushes having failed already.

    Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    But why does he have to? Why have we wound up with a culture where so many are oblivious to the obvious?

    Because (((they))) say so.

    …. but at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.

    I hear necklacing is back.

    …Emmett Till …

    Damn! I though it was my turn to invoke Lord Till.

    We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.

    But, but, but, look at all the things negroes have done for us.

    Awesome column, BTW.

    • Agree: Joe Magarac
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @James Speaks

    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).

    Replies: @Gordo, @Alden

    , @Anonymous
    @James Speaks

    "The British Aristocracy".

    By that I suppose you mean the descendants of the mob that came over with William the Conqueror in 1066, and have, basically, ruled England since.

    Prior to 1066, England was basically a very offshore marginal place, off the coast of continental Europe, which counted for very little, economically, politically or intellectual to the main thrust of Eurasian culture, which was centered elsewhere.

    Fast forward another 800 years or so, and England more or less rocked the world in all respects, economically, intellectually, politically.

    And the less said about its scion, the USA, the better.

    Some ineptitude.

    , @Anonymous
    @James Speaks


    British aristocracy?
     
    Haha, yes. Although the current British political settlement is designed precisely to make sure that aristocratic incompetence can be safely ignored.
    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @James Speaks


    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.

    British aristocracy?

     

    The conceit of Nazi racial chauvinism is alongside that of class egalitarianism. The top ranks of British military were entirely staffed by members of the Peerage. Similarly in WW1 there was not one German Generalfeldmarschall without the aristocratic „von“ particle in their names.

    But the Wehrmacht would have two Generalfeldmarschall, Erwin Rommel and Walther Model, to come from homes of school teachers. Along with others like Heinz Guderian and Albert Kesselring to come from non-aristocratic backgrounds.

    The Army, Heer officer corps would still be largely dominated by Prussian nobility, such as Erich von Manstein. They also formed the core of the July 20th 1944 assassination plot against Hitler led by Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg. Whereas the senior ranks of Waffen SS, headed by Heinrich Himmler, would be mostly middle class. Precisely because of this, it was feared had the plot succeeded, that there would be civil war between the Wehrmacht and SS.

    Rather than the term Herrenrasse „master race“, Hitler used the term Herrenvolk „master people“ or „master nation“.

    In Nietzsche’s Zur Genealogie der Moral, there was „Die Eroberer- und Herren Rasse“, which is sometimes translated to "the conquering master race“. But to be precise, should be translated to the somewhat softer sounding "the conqueror-race of masters“ **

    **Herren here is in the genitive plural case, "of Masters“ or "of Lords". As in Der du Herr aller Herren bist, "You who are the Lord of all Lords“ in Martin Luther's hymn "Keep us, Lord, faithful to your word"
  8. @kaganovitch
    The problem with an Emily Litella "Oh, never mind" resolution to the current worship of Blackness is that it will never be accepted by the Black community. That's not a genie that's going back into the bottle, ever. I really don't see how this can end well.

    Replies: @El Dato

    This is not going to end well at all.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @El Dato

    All of us shall suffer a lot but hopefully our elites and their enablers will suffer much more than us.

  9. The 2019 United Nations Population Prospects forecasted that Sub-Saharan Africa will reach 3,775,000,000 people by 2100.

    Another whoopsie out of Wuhan Lab? Coming right up, sir. Enjoy our deal.

    The alternative is that American elites will have to learn to say out loud what sounds utterly unthinkable in the George Floyd Age: We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.

    This will only happen when a few upper crusties get necklaced and the female house occupants dealt with and the video then uploaded to TikTok … a few times.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    @El Dato

    When, around two thirds through the thirty years war, German high aristocracy, traitors to a man, finally understood that even for them life had become a bit too risky and, even worse, a bit too expensive (ordinary people, including the lower rungs of the aristocracy saw their numbers shrink between 30 and 80 % from 1618 to 1648, depending on the region, with many dying in an incredibly unpleasant way), it still took them around 10 years to wind the whole thing down, and arguably in some regions of Germany the killing only ended a generation later.

    In fewer words: don't hold your breath.

    Replies: @John Up North

  10. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    I figured Charles Murray’s upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed–and disturbed–by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book. Both these two black public intellectuals have dealt with the IQ gap before and basically swept it under the rug, blaming the gap on culture and (in Mcwhorter’s case, bizarrely) the lack of “phonics” education in black majority schools. I can’t wait to see Murray’s chat with Lowry.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anon

    Thanks.

    When pushed, for example, on the achievement gap between Blacks and Asians, I've heard McWhorter say, "I'm not going to go there", which seems to be as close as we can get to an acknowledgement of the facts on the ground.

    Replies: @Redmen

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Anon

    Glenn Loury and/or John McWhorter finally seeing the light and saying so is going to stop this runaway train now? Seems unlikely, besides our betters have already chosen The Genius Coates and Ibram Kendi as the go to black intellectuals of the Floyd Era. I'd say it's unlikely they are going to praise Murray's book or for that matter even deign to read it.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Anon


    I figured Charles Murray’s upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed–and disturbed–by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book.
     
    Did they say that in an episode of The Glenn Show from Bloggingheads? Do you have a link?

    Replies: @Anon

    , @anon
    @Anon

    How many people actually stream the Loury / McWhorter show?
    How many people view Rachel Maddow?

    Glen Loury has a pretty good speaking gig, too, but I dunno how many people he actually reaches.

  11. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Nobody who really matters takes “black is best, white is worst” seriously’.

    Hmmmmph. No Steve, definitely, absolutely no, Steve, as evidenced in innumerable different ways every day in the west, Steve.

    Look. The Economist magazine is, basically, the vocal organ of the Davos/Bilderberg crowd, the puppet masters pulling all the strings behind the scenes – the magazine every aspiring worthless pompous overinflated dick of a politician on the make takes as his reference point.

    And what does The Economist forcefully and bully pulpit advocates, week in week out for? – *unrestrictive MASSIVE third world immigration* into the west.
    That, according to The Economist is the magic panacea, the shower of golden Hippopotamus shit just waiting to sprinkle its blessings upon the west, and will unquestionably reverse the sunset of the west and the dominance of East Asia.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Steve still thinks that giggling can undo law. Law is the clearest statement of intent by the true rulers. Were there other rulers, the laws would be different. In current law (and pseudo-legal policies like executive orders and federal policies), blacks are to be regarded as superior to whites. People have to live with the consequences of these bad laws. Giggling doesn't change anything.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

  12. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:

    Good old Nietzsche wins out again.

    To dispel misreadings and misinterpretations, the ‘Superman’ concept was really about the triumph of will, self belief and the warrior, heroic spirit and impulse.
    It had nothing to do with any racial connotations, but rather a general reaction against ‘slave’ mentality and morality.

    As witnessed in the modern west and USA in particular, the abject cowards, the pusillanimous self hating self abasing grovelling cowards of spiritual weaklings the untermenschen, if you will, are entirely the whites – at any rate a large proportion of the white population.

    The strong, the heroic and masterly are the blacks – who know what they want and how to get it, and are able to cow and intimidate their white slaves into performing *their* will.

    It is not a question of ‘superiority’ of body or mind, it is a question of *health* of mind and thought, ultimately.
    Those of unhealthy mind – mind, note, not intellect, – which is the characteristic which separates H.Sapiens from the beasts, *deserve* to perish and perish miserably.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Blodgie
    @Anonymous

    Specifically white men are the weakest, most manipulated group in society.

    They are the biggest fools, the joiners, the naive aw-shucksters, muh military, muh guns, do whatever my wife wants...

    They have no ability to withstand this assault or even understand it.

    They get just enough morsels of bread to keep going and sacrificing themselves for abstractions and they like it!

    Pathetic.

  13. There’s a streak of aggressive honesty running though this piece that’s a pleasure to see in these end times of the Empire of Lies.

    Thanks, Steve.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  14. @El Dato
    @kaganovitch

    This is not going to end well at all.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    All of us shall suffer a lot but hopefully our elites and their enablers will suffer much more than us.

  15. increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa

    My general impression is that African-Africans hold opinions about African Americans that make your average iSteve reader look like Ibram X Kendi.

    Tangentially related, but what’s the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd’s death declare bankruptcy?

    I’m going 3.5 years.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Goingblankagain


    Tangentially related, but what’s the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd’s death declare bankruptcy?
     
    How many will kill each other for one reason or another or how many of their new found distant relatives? He bought me Nikes..He's MY uncle. Bang.. You're dead.
    , @William Badwhite
    @Goingblankagain


    Tangentially related, but what’s the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd’s death declare bankruptcy?
     
    Following the adventures of the Floyd family and seeing what happens to that $27mm would make a fantastic reality TV show.
    , @Spect3r
    @Goingblankagain

    As someone who has family in Mozambique, i can confirm this. Black people in Mozambique absolutely despise Black Americans.
    But to be honest, they are also incredibly racists among them. The way they talk to each other would make a KKK member sound like a schoolgirl.

  16. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1397361193447301128

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Rewarded for good behavior!

  17. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    Social historian J.C. Furnas, an old-school Harvard -educated liberal, BTW, once estimated that just a quick, cursory examination of lynching cases indicated that at least 2/3 to 3/4 were in all probability guilty, which doesn’t mean the rest were innocent I’m sure some mistakes may have been made, and that’s tragic. I’m sure the vast majority were deserving of their fate.

    An lynchings were usually only for rape and/or murder. You didn’t get lynched for overdue library books.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @AceDeuce

    Also, the motive for lynchings was usually the same sort of thing that would motivate blacks to kill each other if the occasion arose. Blacks kill each other for the most absurdly trivial reasons. But they do it in a different way. They'd never organise a posse of people to abduct someone and transport him a few miles to hang him from a tree. More likely, they'd drive past him when he's in a group of people and spray him with gunfire.

  18. @James Speaks

    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.
     
    British aristocracy?

    Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training. American institutions have been hungry for adept blacks since the 1960s, with numerous diversity pushes having failed already.
     
    Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    But why does he have to? Why have we wound up with a culture where so many are oblivious to the obvious?
     
    Because (((they))) say so.

    .... but at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.
     
    I hear necklacing is back.

    ...Emmett Till ...
     
    Damn! I though it was my turn to invoke Lord Till.

    We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.
     
    But, but, but, look at all the things negroes have done for us.

    Awesome column, BTW.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Art Deco


    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).
     
    They ain't what the used to be, WWI saw to that.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Alden
    @Art Deco

    The present peers have been peerage families for about. 200 to 500 years, a few, such as Norfolk much longer. So they can’t possibly be that inept to last that long.

    But they have no political power and haven’t for at least 100 years. They are irrelevant. The best they can do is preserve their money and hope the jews Muslims and blacks leave them alone.

  19. @Anonymous
    'Nobody who really matters takes "black is best, white is worst" seriously'.

    Hmmmmph. No Steve, definitely, absolutely no, Steve, as evidenced in innumerable different ways every day in the west, Steve.

    Look. The Economist magazine is, basically, the vocal organ of the Davos/Bilderberg crowd, the puppet masters pulling all the strings behind the scenes - the magazine every aspiring worthless pompous overinflated dick of a politician on the make takes as his reference point.

    And what does The Economist forcefully and bully pulpit advocates, week in week out for? - *unrestrictive MASSIVE third world immigration* into the west.
    That, according to The Economist is the magic panacea, the shower of golden Hippopotamus shit just waiting to sprinkle its blessings upon the west, and will unquestionably reverse the sunset of the west and the dominance of East Asia.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Steve still thinks that giggling can undo law. Law is the clearest statement of intent by the true rulers. Were there other rulers, the laws would be different. In current law (and pseudo-legal policies like executive orders and federal policies), blacks are to be regarded as superior to whites. People have to live with the consequences of these bad laws. Giggling doesn’t change anything.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @J.Ross

    Why would you think Steve wants to change anything? Steve just wants to be droll and promulgate silly triple bank shot theories. Look at how he views trans issues- he doesn’t actually give a shit he just wants to run his mouth about how clever his theory is.

    Steve and Juan Unz worship the cathedral- they are just frustrated that the cathedral adores black swagger. White dorks hate swagger. If chuck schumer hated blacks Steve and Juan would have built shrines to him.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  20. @Art Deco
    @James Speaks

    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).

    Replies: @Gordo, @Alden

    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).

    They ain’t what the used to be, WWI saw to that.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Gordo

    "peculiarly"

    What is not peculiar is Art's servile impulse to defend a collection of entitled parasites. Art is a character so numbingly consistent that his only growth potential is in closeted psychopathy. He does however have a cute curmudgeonly aspect. I'll keep the Art Deco notes on file; it's possible he can fit into something not currently on the agenda.

  21. @Anonymous
    Good old Nietzsche wins out again.

    To dispel misreadings and misinterpretations, the 'Superman' concept was really about the triumph of will, self belief and the warrior, heroic spirit and impulse.
    It had nothing to do with any racial connotations, but rather a general reaction against 'slave' mentality and morality.

    As witnessed in the modern west and USA in particular, the abject cowards, the pusillanimous self hating self abasing grovelling cowards of spiritual weaklings the untermenschen, if you will, are entirely the whites - at any rate a large proportion of the white population.

    The strong, the heroic and masterly are the blacks - who know what they want and how to get it, and are able to cow and intimidate their white slaves into performing *their* will.

    It is not a question of 'superiority' of body or mind, it is a question of *health* of mind and thought, ultimately.
    Those of unhealthy mind - mind, note, not intellect, - which is the characteristic which separates H.Sapiens from the beasts, *deserve* to perish and perish miserably.

    Replies: @Blodgie

    Specifically white men are the weakest, most manipulated group in society.

    They are the biggest fools, the joiners, the naive aw-shucksters, muh military, muh guns, do whatever my wife wants…

    They have no ability to withstand this assault or even understand it.

    They get just enough morsels of bread to keep going and sacrificing themselves for abstractions and they like it!

    Pathetic.

  22. When a business hires a black person it screws itself twice.

    First, odds are excellent someone more qualified was turned away.

    Second, the company now has a ‘racism grenade’ on its hands, likely to explode at slights real or imagined; black employees will be held to lower standards and criticism of performance will go unsaid due to the aforementioned grenade.

    All this is tolerated for the sake of earning virtue-signaling diversity points which may or may not satisfy woketards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sick of Orcs

    This is just part of the cost of doing business, like paying taxes. Just as the government takes a share of your company's income, so it requires you to employ these people and take the financial hit that results.

    Replies: @Sick of Orcs

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Sick of Orcs

    "for the sake of earning virtue-signaling diversity points which may or may not satisfy woketards".


    That and a quarter will buy them a cup of coffee.

  23. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Speaks

    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.
     
    British aristocracy?

    Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training. American institutions have been hungry for adept blacks since the 1960s, with numerous diversity pushes having failed already.
     
    Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    But why does he have to? Why have we wound up with a culture where so many are oblivious to the obvious?
     
    Because (((they))) say so.

    .... but at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.
     
    I hear necklacing is back.

    ...Emmett Till ...
     
    Damn! I though it was my turn to invoke Lord Till.

    We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.
     
    But, but, but, look at all the things negroes have done for us.

    Awesome column, BTW.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    “The British Aristocracy”.

    By that I suppose you mean the descendants of the mob that came over with William the Conqueror in 1066, and have, basically, ruled England since.

    Prior to 1066, England was basically a very offshore marginal place, off the coast of continental Europe, which counted for very little, economically, politically or intellectual to the main thrust of Eurasian culture, which was centered elsewhere.

    Fast forward another 800 years or so, and England more or less rocked the world in all respects, economically, intellectually, politically.

    And the less said about its scion, the USA, the better.

    Some ineptitude.

  24. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    Cry more snowflake

    Imagine having all the wealth and property handed to you on a silver platter and terrorizing People of Color and then getting upset when called on it.

    Can’t handle the truth huh?

    • Troll: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Peter Sellers

    Eh, you were better in the Pink Panther.

    , @Charon
    @Peter Sellers

    Where is all this wealth and property they're giving away, and how do I get some?

    , @anon
    @Peter Sellers

    https://www.topcartoons.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Pink-Quackers.jpg

  25. Floydism? Hmmm…

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This Australian TV man Alan Jones talks as if he had (at least intuitively) understood Theodore Dalrymple's thesis, quoted by Steve Sailer in his article above, that the main effect of bending the truth as it is done in the George Floyd case for example is to humiliate those who still get what's up.

  26. S says:

    So, we are likely to be plunged into a vicious cycle in which African immigration drives down white reproduction, which is then taken as requiring importing more tens of millions of Africans.

    I think that’s the deliberate intent. Wokedom for it’s ‘progressive’ White adherents is a sado-masochistic murder/suicide/martyrdom cult.

    The alternative is that American elites will have to learn to say out loud what sounds utterly unthinkable in the Floyd Age: We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.

    That be ‘racist’. They would literally rather die than ever admit such a thing.

    See history of the early woke autonomous zone Jonestown for more insight.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

  27. Simple question…if every White person in America turned into a SJW, would blacks change the culture that leads to them killing each other in record numbers? Buffalo has a black music festival this Friday and Saturday at MLK Park. I’ll report back with the body count on Sunday.

    • LOL: Joe Magarac
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    Stay safe, Joe.

    Seriously.

  28. America is building a gigantic Potemkin village. Think of it as the antithesis of Garrison Keillor’s Lake Wobegon. Particularly the part about the children being above average. The elite class will be saturated with under performing people of color. Often it won’t be obvious but in the long run mediocrity tends to degrade performance. Imagine, if you will, an NBA team consisting of only white people. It will win games but never contend for championships and sometimes be embarrassingly bad. My elite prep school and the Midwestern college I attended (Harvard of the Midwest) are both in the process of seeking new leaders. I’m betting both will choose minority females. They might get lucky and land one with high grade ability, but over time choices made on the basis of skin color will work against the best interests of the institution. I don’t give a damn.

    • Replies: @Guest29048
    @Dan Smith

    It can get much worse than that.

    LSU slipped up and had a football scandal, and by the time it was all over they had hired William F. Tate IV, a godfather of Critical Race Theory, as their new university president.
    https://thehayride.com/2021/05/lsu-just-hired-william-tate-as-its-president-heres-his-scholarly-record/

    "Did the people of Louisiana know that LSU was considering hiring a Critical Race Theorist? Probably not; I could not find anything about this in the state’s biggest paper, which serves Baton Rouge and New Orleans."
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/america-promised-land-orban-hungary-critical-race-theory-lsu-soft-totalitarianism/

    There was a push in 2020 to require all LSU students to take CRT indoctrination. This push came from black players on the LSU football team.
    Black football players were telling the university what to teach. They almost got their way. In the end, the faculty senate voted it down. (I think that's what happened.) Surprising.

    I've seen it before. Elite liberal institutional guardians sell out their institution to salve their sinful souls ... while condemning the rest of us. For example, Ralph Northam and his blackface scandal in Virginia. LSU board felt guilty about football scandal and history of slavery and Jim-Crowism, so they gave the keys away to a tenured black radical.

  29. OK, I know this is gonna be good. I just read about the new BF and AF eras. Before I get too far into this one, I hope you won’t start getting too PC about this. Are we going to start seeing BFO and ETF and have to read every history library book with a pen in hand, as I do now for BCE and CE?

    (Oh, right, that’d be Before Fentanyl Overdose and Enough of This Fucking guy!)

    • LOL: Seneca44, bruce county
  30. @El Dato

    The 2019 United Nations Population Prospects forecasted that Sub-Saharan Africa will reach 3,775,000,000 people by 2100.
     
    Another whoopsie out of Wuhan Lab? Coming right up, sir. Enjoy our deal.

    The alternative is that American elites will have to learn to say out loud what sounds utterly unthinkable in the George Floyd Age: We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.
     
    This will only happen when a few upper crusties get necklaced and the female house occupants dealt with and the video then uploaded to TikTok ... a few times.

    Replies: @byrresheim

    When, around two thirds through the thirty years war, German high aristocracy, traitors to a man, finally understood that even for them life had become a bit too risky and, even worse, a bit too expensive (ordinary people, including the lower rungs of the aristocracy saw their numbers shrink between 30 and 80 % from 1618 to 1648, depending on the region, with many dying in an incredibly unpleasant way), it still took them around 10 years to wind the whole thing down, and arguably in some regions of Germany the killing only ended a generation later.

    In fewer words: don’t hold your breath.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @byrresheim

    Any idea of the final death toll broken down by Catholic/Protestant ethnic Germans?

  31. @Buffalo Joe
    Simple question...if every White person in America turned into a SJW, would blacks change the culture that leads to them killing each other in record numbers? Buffalo has a black music festival this Friday and Saturday at MLK Park. I'll report back with the body count on Sunday.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Stay safe, Joe.

    Seriously.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  32. Consider the strangeness of Americans worshipping George Floyd, an ugly brute who lived an ugly life of major and minor crime that brought him to an ugly end. Then, think about the other BLM martyrs.

    It’s hard to tell if by “Americans”, you mean as a whole or “some Americans”. The Americans that worship George Floyd are the SJW White people, some of the more stupid black people, and the retards of the Lyin’ Press. Other blacks, some Orientals and •Indians, etc., and elites in the Institutions are just pretending to for various screw-the-white-people reasons.

    It’s a part of your job, I know, to read this crap. One could really get the impression from the NY Times, CNN, et all, that “Americans worship George Floyd”. Everyone I talk to about it knows he was a loser, a reprobate, and a criminal. Decent black people I work with know this, but we just don’t bring it up.

    [Last-minute EDIT]

    Yeah, I see you get this. That Dalrymple quote rings true for me.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It’s hard to tell if by “Americans”, you mean as a whole or “some Americans”. The Americans that worship George Floyd are the SJW White people
     
    Every YouTube story on George Floyd is voted down. Read the comments, he's seen as a thug. But I think part of the HBD mindset is that the "White masses" don't matter.

    But, if that were true, why is there a Police State to silence the White population? It sure matters to someone.

    https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.13828557.1338/flat,800x800,070,f.u1.jpg

  33. The future of anti-Whitism is what matters. The Ivy League and the Establishment have pushed it for over 70 years.

    Steve keeps wanting to treat this as some kind of technical problem for the people who run institutions to solve. Seemingly, oblivious to the fact that they hate White people.

    Trying to appeal to them like this is an optimization problem is a loser. HBD’ers don’t hate White folks. They just don’t particularly care about them. All their solutions involve being aware of racial differences but not out of any fellow-feeling; just as a matter of technical efficiency in their technocracy fantasyland.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @RichardTaylor

    Exactly correct. Floydism and the Great Awakening are just manifestations of the ideology our schools and media have been promoting for decades.

    Today the majority of Americans support the Great Awakening because White Christians are now a minority in America. Whites are a minority of the US population under the age of 25 and just 52% of Americans under the age of 45 are white. 10% of whites have non-white children, so their progeny benefits from the woke agenda. Demographics ensures that the anti-white agenda will become even more popular over the next decade as the white population continues to decline rapidly as white deaths exceed white births every year going forward. Over the next decade White deaths will outnumber white births by 5 million or more. The White population in America has already declined by a million people over the past decade and this trend is accelerating.

  34. @Anon
    I figured Charles Murray's upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed--and disturbed--by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book. Both these two black public intellectuals have dealt with the IQ gap before and basically swept it under the rug, blaming the gap on culture and (in Mcwhorter's case, bizarrely) the lack of "phonics" education in black majority schools. I can't wait to see Murray's chat with Lowry.

    Replies: @bomag, @Unladen Swallow, @MEH 0910, @anon

    Thanks.

    When pushed, for example, on the achievement gap between Blacks and Asians, I’ve heard McWhorter say, “I’m not going to go there”, which seems to be as close as we can get to an acknowledgement of the facts on the ground.

    • Replies: @Redmen
    @bomag


    I’ve heard McWhorter say, “I’m not going to go there”
     
    That's interesting. Because if he (and Loury) are going to interview Charles Murray, he's probably going to have to "go there."
  35. As of five years ago, almost one in ten blacks in America had been born abroad. Fortunately, most got in through old-fashioned selective legal immigration.

    Why ”fortunately”? It hardly matters how they got there. In fact, they’d reproduce less (probably) if they were illegal.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  36. From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

    This first link in the post is broken. See for yourself.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/

  37. “The one rational step that American elites could take to meet the demand that they’ve stoked for black leaders is to increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa, who tend to have less dysfunctional cultures than those of African-Americans. “

    Of course, there is the problem that the the children of the African immigrants will be poisoned by African American culture.

  38. @Achmed E. Newman

    Consider the strangeness of Americans worshipping George Floyd, an ugly brute who lived an ugly life of major and minor crime that brought him to an ugly end. Then, think about the other BLM martyrs.
     
    It's hard to tell if by "Americans", you mean as a whole or "some Americans". The Americans that worship George Floyd are the SJW White people, some of the more stupid black people, and the retards of the Lyin' Press. Other blacks, some Orientals and •Indians, etc., and elites in the Institutions are just pretending to for various screw-the-white-people reasons.

    It's a part of your job, I know, to read this crap. One could really get the impression from the NY Times, CNN, et all, that "Americans worship George Floyd". Everyone I talk to about it knows he was a loser, a reprobate, and a criminal. Decent black people I work with know this, but we just don't bring it up.

    [Last-minute EDIT]

    Yeah, I see you get this. That Dalrymple quote rings true for me.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    It’s hard to tell if by “Americans”, you mean as a whole or “some Americans”. The Americans that worship George Floyd are the SJW White people

    Every YouTube story on George Floyd is voted down. Read the comments, he’s seen as a thug. But I think part of the HBD mindset is that the “White masses” don’t matter.

    But, if that were true, why is there a Police State to silence the White population? It sure matters to someone.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  39. Fantastic article Steve.

    • Agree: bruce county, Achmed E. Newman, Redmen
  40. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Barnard
    @PiltdownMan

    The Tuskegee Institute has updated those classifications mostly in an effort to help the flight from white. They now include categories for Chinese, Latinx, Native American, Italian and Other, which is mostly still whites. Of course, nearly everyone in the Latinx and Italian categories would have been considered white at the time.

    They are also trying to greatly expand the definition of lynching far beyond what Monroe Work used when putting together the data at Tuskegee. They are including what are described as ordinary murder that were not mob action and also several incidents where blacks were killed in police custody when police claimed the inmate attempted to fight, grab a weapon, etc. The fact that more blacks are killed each year by other blacks than they had for deaths in their 100 plus year lynching database must have been getting to them. So in response, they went looking for anything they could add to their database no matter how absurd it is to classify it as a lynching.

    https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    , @William Badwhite
    @PiltdownMan


    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”
     
    "Project Hal"

    You can download the spreadsheet here:

    http://people.uncw.edu/hinese/HAL/HAL%20Web%20Page.htm

    Apologies if the hotlink doesn't work.
  41. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.

    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.

    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.

    This is surely too high. It’s probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It’s bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Jack D


    What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.

     

    Why was it safer back when the "legal process was subverted"?

    Now we put all our faith in men who wear dresses (judges). Feels sooooo good to be principled. How many lives are the moral feels worth?

    , @Old and Grumpy
    @Jack D

    Just to throw this out there: everyone knew each other in rural and small town communities back in those days. The population in general was considerably smaller. Also the people were considerably more bound by similar Christian mores. What I am suggesting is they knew who did it, and the crime was so heinous, the community acted out with even older old school justice. Finally no where in those statistics does it say the race of the ones doing the lynching.

    BTW Do you like the lack of due process those who stepped into the Capital on June 6? Even definitively labeling them insurrectionist is prejudicial, and denying them fair defense. Due process is a nice idea, but only true in practice on TV court dramas.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    ...can be easily debunked.
     
    I'm all ears...

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Jack D

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D



    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.
     
    What is odd is that the use of extrajudicial punishments should not have been necessary in, say, 1950s Mississippi because we are told that everyone in power was secretly a Klansman. Why would you even need to lynch a black kid accused of sexual assault upon a white girl in such a society? The Judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, and half of any jury would be in the Klan and factual innocence or guilt wouldn't matter. Of course this is a cartoon version of history but it's the one that we're now taught.

    Advocatus Diaboli - the social structures of the pre-Civil Rights South were put into place by people who had first hand experience living near large populations of blacks. I suppose if they were still around to defend themselves that they'd say right or wrong that these institutions and practices worked and made living near blacks and interacting with them on a daily basis tolerable. In the enlightened North, whites lavish praise upon blacks, curse Southern and other low class whites, while simultaneously working their fingers to the bone in order to be able to live away from large populations of blacks in places with euphemistically "good schools." The entire social structure is flipped - in the old South, blacks made efforts to interact politely with whites during the day, fled white areas before nightfall, and feared offending them on pain of swift disproportionate violence. Today, whites make efforts to interact politely with blacks, flee black areas before nightfall, and fear offending blacks on pain of swift disproportionate violence. Aha - Blacks R the real KKK!
    , @Redmen
    @Jack D


    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process
     
    Due process is increasingly appearing to be an anachronism. As Christopher Caldwell has posited, the Civil Rights Act has all but superseded the Constitution as half the country's founding document. Was Chauvin given due process with the show trial last month? Will Fauci (or Clapper or Brennan) be charged with perjury in testimony to Congress, like Roger Stone was? Will the protestors/rioters of 1/6 be treated the same as the BLM and Antifa rioters and arsonists?

    Under Biden and his enablers, TPTB seek racial equity and due process be damned. Notwithstanding, my non-expert suspicion is that 90% is a probably a bit high.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @William Badwhite
    @Jack D


    What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.
     
    When the "legal process" is non-existent, crime eventually gets punished some other way. This is something those pushing the current trend to decriminalize violent crime should bear in mind. They are pushing (w/o realizing it) for vigilantism and a vendetta culture.

    People will cede their right to retribution to the state (as you know this is why criminal cases are Pennsylvania vs. Jack D as opposed to Crime Victim's Family vs. Jack D - it is the State maintaining its monopoly on violence) only so long as the state actually seeks that retribution.

    When criminals are allowed to commit their crimes with impunity (as was the case in much of the Reconstruction Era South), eventually people reclaim their right to retribution, as happened during the lynching era.

    Replies: @Jack D

  42. ‘So, that’s what the first year of the Floyd Era was like: mayhem on the streets of black America.’

    A Floydian Slip.

    • LOL: Abe, Buffalo Joe
  43. Young whites:
    Get a skill that will allow you to vacate America should it become necessary. You can learn another language if you have to, and you might have to. Be ready. Hope not, but prepare.

  44. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.

    Why was it safer back when the “legal process was subverted”?

    Now we put all our faith in men who wear dresses (judges). Feels sooooo good to be principled. How many lives are the moral feels worth?

  45. Most of the article is spot on. Except for this:

    As reassuring as it is to imagine that when disasters befall America they must be the work of an all-knowing conspiratorial deep state out to get you, it seems more likely that there is no Inner Party.

    C’mon Steve. The Biden Admin is shoving blackity-black-ism down all our throats at a truly astounding pace. Everyone from Joe down to the lowliest Millennial intern is 100% on board with Floydism, or simply put, anti-white policies.

    And the Blue cities with Soros DAs continue to push ever more radical Leftist policies, especially on crime. It’s open season and the ghetto gangbangers know it. Simultaneously, while black crime is allowed to run rampant, the government continues to hunt down every last person from the “Insurrection” who can conceivably be charged with a crime. America now officially and openly has political prisoners, nearly all of whom are white. Mitt Romney is thrilled. And the detainees are treated like prisoners in a Soviet gulag. See for yourself:

    https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/25/man-in-pelosis-office-discusses-jail-conditions-for-january-6-detainees/

    No “Inner Party”? The Inner Party is standing totally out in the open, doing exactly what they want, in full control of nearly every powerful institution in America from big business/tech/finance, to media to every corner of the Federal Government, including the military. And they’ve barely even gotten started on what’s coming.

    But hey, thank god that useless loudmouth Trump isn’t around! He never did a thing. Yeah, except prevent a takeover of the country by bloodthirsty anti-white radicals.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @peterike

    Under the direction of that Idi Amin secretary of defense,, the army is searching social media cell phones credit card payments to hunt down any soldiers who were in or near DC 1/6/21 or said anything favorable about Trump or the demonstrators. Trump supporters in the military are considered White supremacists. As in anyone who voted for a sitting president in November 2020.

    It’s really happening. 53 years of affirmative action and government workers consist of non Whites who hate Whites and commie liberal Whites who want us all dead.

    OT plywood, cheap sheeting plywood jumped from $65 to $90 a sheet and that’s the contractors discount price. And windows, the stock size windows are not in stock anymore. They must be ordered 6 to 8 weeks for stock windows to be made in China of course. And siding can’t go on till the windows are installed. Only thing to do is get custom made windows for $800 instead of stock windows for $150. But without windows everything’s delayed 6 to 8 weeks. And copper wire price is going up every few days. So by the end of the year no business will be able to afford new building or remodeling and there’ll be a recession. So much for post covid prosperity. Only place hiring will be the welfare department. To take care of the permanently unemployed.

  46. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    They’ve been telling you for a while now. Get on board with Diversity, Inclusion, Equity (DIE).

  47. My guess is we’ll look like South Africa, but with a fully capable nuclear arsenal.

  48. OT:

    Electioneering in Mexico. Not sure you can even get life insurance.

    Mexican election candidate SHOT DEAD shortly after going LIVE on Facebook to ask locals to join her at rally

    Since the start of the electoral process in September, more than 80 politicians have been murdered, most of them gunned down. Between February and April this year, more than 50 elected officials, members of political parties and candidates were killed, which is around 40% more than before the 2018 elections, Mexican consulting firm Integralia reports.

    More than 60 candidates for mayor are reported to have withdrawn from the campaign across Mexico amid the spiraling violence, which has been blamed on gang crime.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @El Dato

    What a great idea!!!

  49. Nobody who really matters takes “black is best, white is worst” seriously.

    Nobody who really matters takes “black is best, white is worst” literally.

    But they can and do take it seriously.
    It’s like the modernist theologian’s “God as a metaphor for ultimate concern”.

    How long before the powers that be start naming schools for George Floyd?

  50. @PiltdownMan
    @Polistra


    How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?


     

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”

    Replies: @Barnard, @William Badwhite

    The Tuskegee Institute has updated those classifications mostly in an effort to help the flight from white. They now include categories for Chinese, Latinx, Native American, Italian and Other, which is mostly still whites. Of course, nearly everyone in the Latinx and Italian categories would have been considered white at the time.

    They are also trying to greatly expand the definition of lynching far beyond what Monroe Work used when putting together the data at Tuskegee. They are including what are described as ordinary murder that were not mob action and also several incidents where blacks were killed in police custody when police claimed the inmate attempted to fight, grab a weapon, etc. The fact that more blacks are killed each year by other blacks than they had for deaths in their 100 plus year lynching database must have been getting to them. So in response, they went looking for anything they could add to their database no matter how absurd it is to classify it as a lynching.

    https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Barnard

    Legally, lynching is extrajudicial mob violence against a person or persons--it doesn't mean that the victim was killed.

  51. We might not need them, but there are plenty of white people who want them. White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining at a chain restaurant at the mall on a Friday night I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.

    Sometimes I half jokingly wonder to myself if some teenage girls have jumped on the LGBT train as a way to avoid having to participate in this other craze that has gripped their peers.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Stealth

    "White women under the age of thirty can't seem to get enough of black men, for instance."

    White women under the age of thirty can't seem to get enough of [dogs], for instance. The real competition for white women that white men face is the canine. It seems as if dogs have their own cabal.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Stealth


    I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.
     
    In my area, there are now noticeable numbers of Juan/Kumar/Chang + wf pairings whenever I go out.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Stealth


    White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining ....
     
    I hear these stories. And obviously, a lot of white women have absorbed the minoritarian propaganda and are suitably narrative compliant.

    Yet i'm in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal--not a big "racist" like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men. What i've gotten from them and even more their friends is a negative vibe about black men. I think every woman in America--size is no obstacle!--has been approached by black men with their head bobbing "hey baby" shtick and most women's reaction is "yuck". Propaganda be damned--pass.

    I think there is a subset of women who are either
    a) are extremely susceptible to propaganda or
    b) are more attracted to certain "animalistic" aspects that black men work for them
    or both.


    But clearly there is a big problem with the behavior of white women and with generally getting young men and women together for marriage and family.

    Broken record--but minoritarianism, immigrationism are national and civilizational wrecking balls.

    Replies: @Stealth, @anon

  52. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    Just to throw this out there: everyone knew each other in rural and small town communities back in those days. The population in general was considerably smaller. Also the people were considerably more bound by similar Christian mores. What I am suggesting is they knew who did it, and the crime was so heinous, the community acted out with even older old school justice. Finally no where in those statistics does it say the race of the ones doing the lynching.

    BTW Do you like the lack of due process those who stepped into the Capital on June 6? Even definitively labeling them insurrectionist is prejudicial, and denying them fair defense. Due process is a nice idea, but only true in practice on TV court dramas.

    • Agree: Redmen
  53. Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    We’ve been paying the Negro tax since long before BLM.

    But you’re still basically 100% right because they pushed the tax rate way up.

  54. it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:

    Matthew 20:16

    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    Matthew 19:24

    The idea that the poor are morally elevated by their very poverty is deeply rooted in Christianity. It’s part of what helped sell the religion because there are a lot more poor people than rich ones and so if you are trying to design a religion with the broadest possible appeal you want to say things that are appealing to the poor masses.

    Of course Christianity is not just one thing. There have been different versions of Christianity that emphasize success rather than failure. And what we have now is a post-Christian, distorted version of Christianity without God where certain selected Christian teachings have had their meanings stretched beyond all recognition and other teachings have been completely discarded. But, the impulse to assign moral worth to poverty is a very old one.

    There are a number of problems with importing Igbos in order to provide us with more competent blacks.

    First of all, it’s not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

    2nd, while some are smart, they seem to be equally attracted to criminality as American blacks , but instead of holding up the Quickie Mart they are committing Medicaid fraud – it’s not clear that this is an improvement. Perhaps less violent but the dollar amounts involved (therefore the damage they cause to society) are greater.

    Third, Igbos do not replace the American black underclass. Making Ikembe the principal of your local public school does not change the fact that there are 500 IQ85 Dyshauns and Tyshauna enrolled who are going to be dead weight in any technological society even before they go thru the wringer of dysfunctional ghetto culture.

    4th, the ghetto gangster culture has tremendous appeal – even some lower class whites and Asians imitate it. The most natural thing for the sons and daughters of African immigrants to do is to assimilate into African American culture and breed with (the much larger #) of low IQ African Americans. So whatever positive contribution they make to bringing up AA IQ (and culture) disappears after a generation or too as they dissolve into the masses. 50 years from now – “Oh yeah, I heard that my great grandpa was from Nigeria but I don’t know nuffin about that.”

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Jack D

    Thanks.

    Raising up the poor is a regular scheme. Didn't the Mongols recruit by promising a share of loot to otherwise poor people? And then there's the whole Communism thing...

    Our current Black worship looks like a hack of our ingrained commitment to this uplifting of the poor; healing the sick; caring for the less able. It was an advancement of humans to care for the sick and infirmed: allowed more risk taking and investment in the future. But our care and feeding has yielded paltry results, so I'm wondering if we are fundamentally broken, or if there is a correction in the future.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Agree with most of what you're saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently "for everyone". And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn't "baked in". Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what's going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And--as i've pointed out repeatedly and is obvious--WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    "Everyone should behave like a WASP."

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! ... stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don't cause trouble, speak respectfully ... act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.


    No this--celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms--comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks--their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, "racism!"--has been the cudgel Jews--leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment--have used to "J'accuse" American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is ... obvious. Because the narrative isn't even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there's some sort of racist miasma--pretty much identical to the "anti-Semitism" miasma--that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff ... but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity--plenty of Christians--would say "you should be fair to all people" or "racism is wrong". (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll ... compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It's not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that's Judaism.


    Steve is right:


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     
    This is novel. No nation, civilization--not even Christian ones--holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs--competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization--no exception.) It's national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @S, @vhrm, @S

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Jack D


    First of all, it’s not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

     

    As in top recruit at Huawei? not many, but probably not zero.
    I’ve commented before on their human capital.

    I didn’t say black geniuses. I used specifically Igbo/Nigerian as example of a subgroup that can have reasonable number of IQ > 130. And I did so specifically because unlike mulattos/Caribbean they have minimal white admixture.
    125 IQ is enough for MD/JD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Job_performance
    130-140 IQ is average at elite STEM programs, NOT superstar Fields Medallists, its about consistent with this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_Americans#Science_and_engineering

     

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-making-sure-robots-arent-racist/#comment-4532997

    Let’s say for sake of argument Koreans and Nigerian Americans have the same IQ, the former is applied to the entire race, whereas latter is an elite endogamous slice similar to Indian upper castes.
    There are less than a million Nigerian Americans, if you grow to 10 million have your own independent state, then in theory you can build an industrialized state/Wakanda.
    But US Nigerians are only succeeding in US/UK institutions, usually have no intention to return home, and on average have fewer than 1.5 kids each.

     

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-coming-igbo-surge/#comment-4566456

    On 2) and 4) I’m not terribly concerned. Igbos and Yorubas tend to assimilate well into middle-class norms.

    But this is not an endorsement for Steve’s idea. I’m not sure that Steve’s Most Important Graph will be solved by bringing more African elites here.
  55. I think the main reason the American establishment doesn’t care about the post-Floyd black violent crime wave is because it’s mostly black undertow victimizing black undertow.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @countenance

    True, most White Americans don’t live near Blacks and thus the increase in Black violence has little impact on whites since most they live isolated from urban Blacks. The Ferguson effect was limited to St. Louis and a few other large cities. The Floyd effect spread to most of the Black urban areas compounded due to the economic and social damage caused by the lockdowns.

    Replies: @countenance, @znon

  56. The lockdowns were a key factor in the summer of Floyd.

    BLM riots following the shooting of Michael Brown in 2014 occurred in just 2 cities. Only a few BLM protests happened in 2014. While in 2020 we had thousands of protests and 600 riots since protesting was the only social activity permitted during the COVID Clampdown. Millions of Americans protested in 2020 because they had nothing else they could do. With millions out of work, schools, churches and arenas closed the protests were the only outlet for social interactions last summer. Without the lockdowns the rioting would have remained isolated to Minneapolis.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    I hear you, Pizzaro, but the driving force of the riots last year was the democratic party. Democrats funded, sponsored, and enabled riots in every way possible. They did it to de-stabilize the country during an election year to give them a better chance of winning. It worked.
    The role that Democrat donors and politicians played in manufacturing these riots is one of the worst acts of treason in our history.
    It was intended to whip up a firestorm of panic and hate. It was an attack on calm, on deliberation, on thinking. Clear thinking is the precondition and starting point for any decency, morality, or justice we will ever have. The democratic party crossed the Rubicon last year and joined the ranks of history's worst political thugs.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Hern, after mike brown was shot we were fed a constant narrative of "hands up, don't shoot" even though obama's DOJ said brown did not have his hands up and did not say don't shoot. All that led to kneeling during the National Anthem and the start on the slippery slope we are now careening down.

    Replies: @Jack D

  57. we are likely to be plunged into a vicious cycle in which African immigration drives down white reproduction, which is then taken as requiring importing more tens of millions of Africans.

    Phase 2 of Death By Africans beginning now…

    • Agree: bomag
  58. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    …can be easily debunked.

    I’m all ears…

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Almost Missouri

    Gentlemen. You can't fight in the War Room.

    The number to first approximation is whatever the race of the victim is in the homicides which are still open. If the government can be trusted (big if) to not cook the numbers it is straightforward:

    what % of homicides are same race?
    what % of homicides unsolved have negro corpses?

    The truth is out there. Also whether it's 55% or 90% is not a datum which will be that significant.

    , @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    I'm not interested in doing the work involved but just by virtue of geographic location and victim identity you could probably determine that it was highly unlikely that at least 10% of unsolved murders involved blacks. If someone turns up dead on an Indian reservation in N. Dakota, what are the odds that the unknown killer was black?

    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racial so just by looking at the identity of the victim you can make a pretty good guess at the identity of the perp. The race of the victim is known in almost all cases.

    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. "Snitches get stitches" applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charon

  59. In upcoming years, opening the floodgates to excess Africans will be pitched to the public by Woke Capital as an economic necessity since whites aren’t reproducing fast enough to keep toilet paper sales growing.

    Did you know that third worlders don’t use toilet paper in their home nations so we can’t export it? There aren’t enough native born American asses to meet our growth projections.

    We need to import the third world in order to cut our trees down and process the pulp into toilet paper to meet the increased demand for toilet paper made necessary by importing the third world.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Why can't we 'cut out the middle man' and simply export copies of the NYT for that purpose?

  60. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Speaks

    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.
     
    British aristocracy?

    Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training. American institutions have been hungry for adept blacks since the 1960s, with numerous diversity pushes having failed already.
     
    Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    But why does he have to? Why have we wound up with a culture where so many are oblivious to the obvious?
     
    Because (((they))) say so.

    .... but at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.
     
    I hear necklacing is back.

    ...Emmett Till ...
     
    Damn! I though it was my turn to invoke Lord Till.

    We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.
     
    But, but, but, look at all the things negroes have done for us.

    Awesome column, BTW.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    British aristocracy?

    Haha, yes. Although the current British political settlement is designed precisely to make sure that aristocratic incompetence can be safely ignored.

  61. @countenance
    I think the main reason the American establishment doesn't care about the post-Floyd black violent crime wave is because it's mostly black undertow victimizing black undertow.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    True, most White Americans don’t live near Blacks and thus the increase in Black violence has little impact on whites since most they live isolated from urban Blacks. The Ferguson effect was limited to St. Louis and a few other large cities. The Floyd effect spread to most of the Black urban areas compounded due to the economic and social damage caused by the lockdowns.

    • Replies: @countenance
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    I myself am a native St. Louisan.

    One thing that I realized after things died down is how isolated the geography of the relevant events were.

    I had not been to any part of Ferguson since 2007, and not to the Fergaza Strip (as I would come to call it) since 1995.

    I realized that, if I never paid attention to the news, and considering where I lived at the time, and where I worked at the time, I would have never realized the major international daily news taking place under my nose.

    And that goes back to my point: While these kinds of things fill out screens: TVs, tablets, phones, etc., they are very geographically niche.

    , @znon
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    I would comment that since it is clear that most of BLM supporters are white, and that the power of the media is to influence the entire community, that everyone from moms to teenagers to cops in my small suburban white town are looking for white boys of every age to use as scapegoats, with methods ranging from public rudeness all the way up to direct assault, and more.
    No one is safe from this by simple distance from the perceived source. Our running away and hiding behind the skirts of the police, has produced only the dangerous illusion of safety.

  62. @Jack D

    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Matthew 20:16

    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
     
    Matthew 19:24

    The idea that the poor are morally elevated by their very poverty is deeply rooted in Christianity. It's part of what helped sell the religion because there are a lot more poor people than rich ones and so if you are trying to design a religion with the broadest possible appeal you want to say things that are appealing to the poor masses.

    Of course Christianity is not just one thing. There have been different versions of Christianity that emphasize success rather than failure. And what we have now is a post-Christian, distorted version of Christianity without God where certain selected Christian teachings have had their meanings stretched beyond all recognition and other teachings have been completely discarded. But, the impulse to assign moral worth to poverty is a very old one.

    There are a number of problems with importing Igbos in order to provide us with more competent blacks.

    First of all, it's not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

    2nd, while some are smart, they seem to be equally attracted to criminality as American blacks , but instead of holding up the Quickie Mart they are committing Medicaid fraud - it's not clear that this is an improvement. Perhaps less violent but the dollar amounts involved (therefore the damage they cause to society) are greater.

    Third, Igbos do not replace the American black underclass. Making Ikembe the principal of your local public school does not change the fact that there are 500 IQ85 Dyshauns and Tyshauna enrolled who are going to be dead weight in any technological society even before they go thru the wringer of dysfunctional ghetto culture.

    4th, the ghetto gangster culture has tremendous appeal - even some lower class whites and Asians imitate it. The most natural thing for the sons and daughters of African immigrants to do is to assimilate into African American culture and breed with (the much larger #) of low IQ African Americans. So whatever positive contribution they make to bringing up AA IQ (and culture) disappears after a generation or too as they dissolve into the masses. 50 years from now - "Oh yeah, I heard that my great grandpa was from Nigeria but I don't know nuffin about that."

    Replies: @bomag, @AnotherDad, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks.

    Raising up the poor is a regular scheme. Didn’t the Mongols recruit by promising a share of loot to otherwise poor people? And then there’s the whole Communism thing…

    Our current Black worship looks like a hack of our ingrained commitment to this uplifting of the poor; healing the sick; caring for the less able. It was an advancement of humans to care for the sick and infirmed: allowed more risk taking and investment in the future. But our care and feeding has yielded paltry results, so I’m wondering if we are fundamentally broken, or if there is a correction in the future.

  63. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-end-of-gentrification/#comment-3973576

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

  64. @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    ...can be easily debunked.
     
    I'm all ears...

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Jack D

    Gentlemen. You can’t fight in the War Room.

    The number to first approximation is whatever the race of the victim is in the homicides which are still open. If the government can be trusted (big if) to not cook the numbers it is straightforward:

    what % of homicides are same race?
    what % of homicides unsolved have negro corpses?

    The truth is out there. Also whether it’s 55% or 90% is not a datum which will be that significant.

  65. >Because (((they))) say so.

    As I understand the conventions of replying on Unz.com columns, 2 left and right parenthesis surrounding a name indicates a Jew. Further, that the author of that curious custom believes and knows that a Jew is not an autonomous individual with opinions of his own but rather implementing a genetically inherited program outlined in his holy book to enslave the rest of the world. As this is a fantasy propogated by some commenters here, I suggest they and others should surround their names with 2 left and right curly brackets (e.g. {{Smith}}) with a view of outing them and themselves so we can identify them and treat them with the kindness rightly due to lunatics.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Anonymouse


    As I understand the conventions of replying on Unz.com columns, 2 left and right parenthesis surrounding a name indicates a Jew.
    ...
     
    there are four lights (1)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjKQQpPVifY

    and three parentheses:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

    ---
    1) a quite ambiguous ending that one

  66. we need more Igbos

    In undergraduate days I had an Igbo classmate though the word used in those days was “Ibo”. He was not an academic star but proved capable of graduating with an honours degree in a STEM subject. Pleasant bloke too.

    After we’d finished our degrees he kept in touch with one of us. He went home to fight for Biafra in the war of the day. Then his letters suddenly stopped at the time that the government forces bombed the Biafran oil refinery. Poor bugger.

    Suppose he’d emigrated to the US. He’d have been a useful addition to your population. Would his children? Probably not, if they had been captured by black American “culture”. Then he’d have died an unhappy man, probably.

  67. @Anon
    I figured Charles Murray's upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed--and disturbed--by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book. Both these two black public intellectuals have dealt with the IQ gap before and basically swept it under the rug, blaming the gap on culture and (in Mcwhorter's case, bizarrely) the lack of "phonics" education in black majority schools. I can't wait to see Murray's chat with Lowry.

    Replies: @bomag, @Unladen Swallow, @MEH 0910, @anon

    Glenn Loury and/or John McWhorter finally seeing the light and saying so is going to stop this runaway train now? Seems unlikely, besides our betters have already chosen The Genius Coates and Ibram Kendi as the go to black intellectuals of the Floyd Era. I’d say it’s unlikely they are going to praise Murray’s book or for that matter even deign to read it.

  68. @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    ...can be easily debunked.
     
    I'm all ears...

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Jack D

    I’m not interested in doing the work involved but just by virtue of geographic location and victim identity you could probably determine that it was highly unlikely that at least 10% of unsolved murders involved blacks. If someone turns up dead on an Indian reservation in N. Dakota, what are the odds that the unknown killer was black?

    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racial so just by looking at the identity of the victim you can make a pretty good guess at the identity of the perp. The race of the victim is known in almost all cases.

    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. “Snitches get stitches” applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racia
     
    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved. Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or "police are still searching for a motive"—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.

    Among all murders, it is the black ones that are most frequently unsolved, and since, as you say, most murder is intra-racial (and doubly so for blacks), that means that black murders are underrepresented among solved murders and overrepresented among unsolved murders. So this is two more ways that the unsolved portion of murders will skew more black.

    The black murderer "baseline" is already at 56% among solved cases, so to be at 90% in the unsolved category means they only need an extra 34% representation. You may not have much faith in blacks as scientists, CEOs or scholars, but please have some faith in the great black métier of unsolved murder. They can do this!

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @stillCARealist

    , @Charon
    @Jack D


    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. “Snitches get stitches” applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.
     
    You're the one who just said it's "easily debunked" then turn around and say it's too much trouble even to try. And your first sentence here about your "natural assumption" indicates that you're well out of your depth in this discussion.
  69. @Anon
    I figured Charles Murray's upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed--and disturbed--by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book. Both these two black public intellectuals have dealt with the IQ gap before and basically swept it under the rug, blaming the gap on culture and (in Mcwhorter's case, bizarrely) the lack of "phonics" education in black majority schools. I can't wait to see Murray's chat with Lowry.

    Replies: @bomag, @Unladen Swallow, @MEH 0910, @anon

    I figured Charles Murray’s upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed–and disturbed–by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book.

    Did they say that in an episode of The Glenn Show from Bloggingheads? Do you have a link?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @MEH 0910

    Glenn Lowry is releasing conversations with McWhorter biweekly to SubStack paying subscribers, early in the week, I think, then dribbling out excerpts through the week, and releasing the full video on Bloggingheads, on Fridays, I think. In the current full hourish long installment they talk about this towards the end. Lowry says he has Cornell West scheduled, and invites McWhorter to participate. I think the only reason West is talking to Lowry is because he's promoting a book.

    Then Lowry remembers he's got Murray coming on also. McWhorter says he's preordered Murray's book and says it has to be reckoned with. And then Lowry describes the book, obviously having read it. Lowry is a data-driven econometric economist, and he said Murray had marshalled a lot of data and research and was an excellent writer. He also praised Murray as being an erudite and articulate speaker. At the same time he was frowning, leaving the impression that he didn't like the message Murray was delivering and hoped it wasn't true. (Trivia: Lowry blurbed The Bell Curve when it was first published, his quote is on the book, but he quickly regretted that.)

    Lowry is a real life counterexample to the HBD creed, a black ghetto punk who knocked up a young girl and generally was going nowhere fast, but who ended up at MIT, Harvard, Brown ... But even then was doing drugs part of that time. He became a Christian, then unbecame a Christian. He's had a wild ride, but is obviously a far right tail smart guy, probably a one in a million black guy. Lowry is the master of the disputational technique of listening closely, steelmanning his guest's views and asking for confirmation, and only then offering his own take and position. It's quite a civilized way of getting to the bottom of things.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Arclight, @ravin' lunatic

  70. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.

    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.

    What is odd is that the use of extrajudicial punishments should not have been necessary in, say, 1950s Mississippi because we are told that everyone in power was secretly a Klansman. Why would you even need to lynch a black kid accused of sexual assault upon a white girl in such a society? The Judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, and half of any jury would be in the Klan and factual innocence or guilt wouldn’t matter. Of course this is a cartoon version of history but it’s the one that we’re now taught.

    Advocatus Diaboli – the social structures of the pre-Civil Rights South were put into place by people who had first hand experience living near large populations of blacks. I suppose if they were still around to defend themselves that they’d say right or wrong that these institutions and practices worked and made living near blacks and interacting with them on a daily basis tolerable. In the enlightened North, whites lavish praise upon blacks, curse Southern and other low class whites, while simultaneously working their fingers to the bone in order to be able to live away from large populations of blacks in places with euphemistically “good schools.” The entire social structure is flipped – in the old South, blacks made efforts to interact politely with whites during the day, fled white areas before nightfall, and feared offending them on pain of swift disproportionate violence. Today, whites make efforts to interact politely with blacks, flee black areas before nightfall, and fear offending blacks on pain of swift disproportionate violence. Aha – Blacks R the real KKK!

    • Agree: Rob McX
  71. @Anon
    I figured Charles Murray's upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed--and disturbed--by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book. Both these two black public intellectuals have dealt with the IQ gap before and basically swept it under the rug, blaming the gap on culture and (in Mcwhorter's case, bizarrely) the lack of "phonics" education in black majority schools. I can't wait to see Murray's chat with Lowry.

    Replies: @bomag, @Unladen Swallow, @MEH 0910, @anon

    How many people actually stream the Loury / McWhorter show?
    How many people view Rachel Maddow?

    Glen Loury has a pretty good speaking gig, too, but I dunno how many people he actually reaches.

  72. Off topic. Here is an LA Times article which was as if written for this blog.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-19/covid-19-california-militia-fueling-civic-revolt
    Redding, California.
    Left-wing Anglo BLM ally named Pinkney
    beefing with
    Right-wing Chicano vet/patriot/local good ol’ boy named Zapata.
    Also coming to a state near you in the near future?

  73. @Almost Missouri
    @Polistra

    https://twitter.com/LokiJulianus/status/1396846318258098177
    https://twitter.com/LokiJulianus/status/1396851812766994436

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-end-of-gentrification/#comment-3973576

    Replies: @Jack D

    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank’s defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.

    By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true? Is it “racist” to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn’t believe him doesn’t mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don’t just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.

    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Jack D


    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

     

    A sure marker for a hasbara guttermuppet is to whine about people noticing the USS Liberty.
    , @HA
    @Jack D

    "By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true?"


    [Leo Frank's attorney] Luther Rosser told jurors: “[the black guy] is a plain, beastly, drunken, filthy, lying n!gger with a spreading nose through which probably tons of cocaine have probably been sniffed.”
     

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true? Is it “racist” to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy?
     
    Leo Frank, the Emmett Till of the Jews.

    My knowledge limited to the wikipedia article ... I tend to agree on Frank. If i had to bet--bet on the black guy. But like Emmett Till ... what's that have to do with now?

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.
     
    You don't have to be an "anti-Semite" Jack, just an American. Americans are naturally incensed by it because it was a wholly unprovoked attack--twice if i remember--on a clearly marked American ship resulting in 30+ American sailors being killed and 100+ more wounded. (By a nation which gets billions and billions of dollars in American aid and for which American policy is torqued around in ways that cause us great trouble.) "Americans" whose reaction is not thinking about these sailors and being pissed off, but to run to the defense of Israel are "Americans" (AINOs).

    Knowledge at the wikipedia article level only--never having engaged with the literature--my guess is "screw up". I think it's mostly a reminder that the Israelis really aren't all that. The Israeli military reputation comes from an aggressive "shoot first ask questions later" orientation, better (Western/American) equipment and mostly from fighting Arabs. Supermen, super-competent they are not.

    But again for actual Americans their sympathies immediately lie with the American boys on board and they are naturally pissed off.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.
     
    The black guy was (presumably) a fellow Christian. Frank, not so much.
    , @Hamlet's Ghost
    @Jack D

    "The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival."

    Actually, the most common denominator in lynchings is being guilty.

    , @Joseph Doaks
    @Jack D

    "The reason we don’t just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes."

    Unlike our election process!

  74. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    A sure marker for a hasbara guttermuppet is to whine about people noticing the USS Liberty.

  75. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910
    @Anon


    I figured Charles Murray’s upcoming book would drop without a trace, more so than his last one. But Glenn Lowry has him scheduled for his video podcast on Bloggingheads. Lowry has read an advance copy of the book and is impressed–and disturbed–by it. John Mcwhorter also said he preordered the book.
     
    Did they say that in an episode of The Glenn Show from Bloggingheads? Do you have a link?

    Replies: @Anon

    Glenn Lowry is releasing conversations with McWhorter biweekly to SubStack paying subscribers, early in the week, I think, then dribbling out excerpts through the week, and releasing the full video on Bloggingheads, on Fridays, I think. In the current full hourish long installment they talk about this towards the end. Lowry says he has Cornell West scheduled, and invites McWhorter to participate. I think the only reason West is talking to Lowry is because he’s promoting a book.

    Then Lowry remembers he’s got Murray coming on also. McWhorter says he’s preordered Murray’s book and says it has to be reckoned with. And then Lowry describes the book, obviously having read it. Lowry is a data-driven econometric economist, and he said Murray had marshalled a lot of data and research and was an excellent writer. He also praised Murray as being an erudite and articulate speaker. At the same time he was frowning, leaving the impression that he didn’t like the message Murray was delivering and hoped it wasn’t true. (Trivia: Lowry blurbed The Bell Curve when it was first published, his quote is on the book, but he quickly regretted that.)

    Lowry is a real life counterexample to the HBD creed, a black ghetto punk who knocked up a young girl and generally was going nowhere fast, but who ended up at MIT, Harvard, Brown … But even then was doing drugs part of that time. He became a Christian, then unbecame a Christian. He’s had a wild ride, but is obviously a far right tail smart guy, probably a one in a million black guy. Lowry is the master of the disputational technique of listening closely, steelmanning his guest’s views and asking for confirmation, and only then offering his own take and position. It’s quite a civilized way of getting to the bottom of things.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Anon

    Here's that last section in which they discuss Charles Murray:

    https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/61680?in=47:37

    The Etiology of Victimology | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrDiBMHEtw&t=2857s


    0:00 John's appearance on "Real Time with Bill Maher"
    10:18 Why John's 2000 book Losing the Race remains relevant today
    14:49 The "noble victim complex"
    23:00 The counterproductivity of victim narratives
    29:49 Where do you draw the line in calling out nonsense?
    39:45 Trading agency for victim status
    47:37 The exciting roster of upcoming TGS guests

    Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University) and John McWhorter (Columbia University, Lexicon Valley, The Atlantic). Recorded May 16, 2021.

     

    , @Arclight
    @Anon

    One of the things I appreciate about Lowry is he has a sense of shame and anger about the way black America self-sabotages itself, and you can see McWhorter coming around over time as well. They both recognize a lot of the cultural gaslighting that is going on right now and are generally sick of the excuses.

    , @ravin' lunatic
    @Anon

    /agree

    glenn loury is a a real mensch and an invaluable speaker in these degenerate times. listen to him excoriating the race hustlers here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3snpYMWfEZ0&t=320s

  76. OT – Anyone living in GB, look at the front page of your covid poi … jab invitation. Now majority of adult Brits have it. See how many White people are on it.

    Americans – be grateful you don’t have a socialized/Marxist NHS. All darkies – also how I imagine committee of NICE rats look.

    #TokenWhite

    #WMFunded

  77. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    I think it’s been made pretty clear that the remaining White people are supposed to go into extinction through low fertility, inter-breeding, murder and marginalization. After decades of trying equal opportunities, affirmative action, civil rights, welfare transfers and now equity, it has become obvious those measures will never close the gap with Whites. That can never be acceptable so the next measure is to reduce Whites to an insignificant portion of all populations. By simple logic if there are no Whites, then there can be no gap with them. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Alfa158

    Exactly. White fertility has been falling for decades. White deaths have exceeded white births since 2012. The 2020 census will be the first census to show an absolute decline in the number of White Americans. The decline in the number of whites is about to accelerate rapidly as the boomers turn 75. Over the next decade 26 million whites will pass away and just 17 million whites will be born.

  78. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    I'm not interested in doing the work involved but just by virtue of geographic location and victim identity you could probably determine that it was highly unlikely that at least 10% of unsolved murders involved blacks. If someone turns up dead on an Indian reservation in N. Dakota, what are the odds that the unknown killer was black?

    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racial so just by looking at the identity of the victim you can make a pretty good guess at the identity of the perp. The race of the victim is known in almost all cases.

    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. "Snitches get stitches" applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charon

    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racia

    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved. Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or “police are still searching for a motive”—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.

    Among all murders, it is the black ones that are most frequently unsolved, and since, as you say, most murder is intra-racial (and doubly so for blacks), that means that black murders are underrepresented among solved murders and overrepresented among unsolved murders. So this is two more ways that the unsolved portion of murders will skew more black.

    The black murderer “baseline” is already at 56% among solved cases, so to be at 90% in the unsolved category means they only need an extra 34% representation. You may not have much faith in blacks as scientists, CEOs or scholars, but please have some faith in the great black métier of unsolved murder. They can do this!

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Almost Missouri


    Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or “police are still searching for a motive”—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.
     
    There's actually an active campaign in urban areas - "stop snitchin'" - the purpose of which is to dissuade (by moral coercion or worse) the most likely witnesses of murders and other crimes perpetrated by blacks from cooperating with police to solve the crimes.

    So it's entirely possible that many unsolved murders in the hood were committed in broad daylight and witnessed by a dozen or so bystanders.
    , @stillCARealist
    @Almost Missouri

    I wonder what it's like to live in a poor, black community and realize that there are murderers in your midst. Uncaught and unrepentant. It would never occur to me to look at my neighbors and friends and think, "That old Harry, he likely killed someone back in the 90's."

    Is there some sort of life perspective that they find enjoyable from this? Maybe the excitement is something I can't understand; it may truly be a black thing. (remember that? It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand!)

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Buffalo Joe

  79. Totally OT, but the news keeps repeating that Kristin Clark is the “first woman of color to head the DOJ Civil Rights Division”.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Vanita Gupta was the first woman of color to head that division, right?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Tim

    Tim, to paraphrase bill clinton..."depends on what your definition of color is." The color du jour is black. VP harris is black. obama is black. valerie jarret is black. Dots don't count.

  80. @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racia
     
    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved. Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or "police are still searching for a motive"—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.

    Among all murders, it is the black ones that are most frequently unsolved, and since, as you say, most murder is intra-racial (and doubly so for blacks), that means that black murders are underrepresented among solved murders and overrepresented among unsolved murders. So this is two more ways that the unsolved portion of murders will skew more black.

    The black murderer "baseline" is already at 56% among solved cases, so to be at 90% in the unsolved category means they only need an extra 34% representation. You may not have much faith in blacks as scientists, CEOs or scholars, but please have some faith in the great black métier of unsolved murder. They can do this!

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @stillCARealist

    Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or “police are still searching for a motive”—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.

    There’s actually an active campaign in urban areas – “stop snitchin’” – the purpose of which is to dissuade (by moral coercion or worse) the most likely witnesses of murders and other crimes perpetrated by blacks from cooperating with police to solve the crimes.

    So it’s entirely possible that many unsolved murders in the hood were committed in broad daylight and witnessed by a dozen or so bystanders.

  81. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:

    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved.

    Freddie deBoer in his SubStack today:

    The phrase “diversity of opinion” or similar has become one of those triggers for very online people; if you use it unironically, in certain discursive spaces, they won’t even listen to the rest of what you say. It’s like the phrase “Black on Black crime” in how it provokes instant derision. Unfortunately this kneejerk dismissal means that nobody has ever sat down and written the reasons why diversity of opinion is wrong, to the point of being laughable, in a compelling essay – you know, expressing important ideas in clear and persuasive writing to advance the public good, instead of telling some shitty joke for retweets.

    I’d never thought of that, but yeah, pointing out that most crimes against blacks are by other blacks does seem to send people into another dimension.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Anon


    Freddie deBoer in his SubStack today:
     
    https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/you-still-cant-sit-with-us
  82. @Almost Missouri
    @Jack D


    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racia
     
    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved. Also, given the more random nature of black murders—a diss, or "police are still searching for a motive"—murders by random blacks are harder to solve as there is no named beneficiary in a conveniently large life insurance policy nor an email correspondence trail to tie the perp to the crime.

    Among all murders, it is the black ones that are most frequently unsolved, and since, as you say, most murder is intra-racial (and doubly so for blacks), that means that black murders are underrepresented among solved murders and overrepresented among unsolved murders. So this is two more ways that the unsolved portion of murders will skew more black.

    The black murderer "baseline" is already at 56% among solved cases, so to be at 90% in the unsolved category means they only need an extra 34% representation. You may not have much faith in blacks as scientists, CEOs or scholars, but please have some faith in the great black métier of unsolved murder. They can do this!

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @stillCARealist

    I wonder what it’s like to live in a poor, black community and realize that there are murderers in your midst. Uncaught and unrepentant. It would never occur to me to look at my neighbors and friends and think, “That old Harry, he likely killed someone back in the 90’s.”

    Is there some sort of life perspective that they find enjoyable from this? Maybe the excitement is something I can’t understand; it may truly be a black thing. (remember that? It’s a black thing, you wouldn’t understand!)

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
    @stillCARealist

    There must literally be thousands, tens of thousands, of blacks walking around places like Chicago's south side who have shot or killed somebody and it went unknown or unpunished. What a strange world that would be to inhabit. As a boy growing up there was one older teenager who lived several blocks from us who had almost killed another teenager and had done a few years for it. We were all told to avoid him like the plague. And we did.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @stillCARealist

    still CA, I always find it strange that the mothers of slain young blacks seem to wear their loss like a badge of honor, almost like a "Gold Star" mother. Amd numerous interviews with black athletes mention the fact that a close family member or two or three were shot and killed. If it weighed down on them then they would work on ending it, and I don't mean the platitudes of 'violence interuptors.'

  83. @Anon
    @MEH 0910

    Glenn Lowry is releasing conversations with McWhorter biweekly to SubStack paying subscribers, early in the week, I think, then dribbling out excerpts through the week, and releasing the full video on Bloggingheads, on Fridays, I think. In the current full hourish long installment they talk about this towards the end. Lowry says he has Cornell West scheduled, and invites McWhorter to participate. I think the only reason West is talking to Lowry is because he's promoting a book.

    Then Lowry remembers he's got Murray coming on also. McWhorter says he's preordered Murray's book and says it has to be reckoned with. And then Lowry describes the book, obviously having read it. Lowry is a data-driven econometric economist, and he said Murray had marshalled a lot of data and research and was an excellent writer. He also praised Murray as being an erudite and articulate speaker. At the same time he was frowning, leaving the impression that he didn't like the message Murray was delivering and hoped it wasn't true. (Trivia: Lowry blurbed The Bell Curve when it was first published, his quote is on the book, but he quickly regretted that.)

    Lowry is a real life counterexample to the HBD creed, a black ghetto punk who knocked up a young girl and generally was going nowhere fast, but who ended up at MIT, Harvard, Brown ... But even then was doing drugs part of that time. He became a Christian, then unbecame a Christian. He's had a wild ride, but is obviously a far right tail smart guy, probably a one in a million black guy. Lowry is the master of the disputational technique of listening closely, steelmanning his guest's views and asking for confirmation, and only then offering his own take and position. It's quite a civilized way of getting to the bottom of things.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Arclight, @ravin' lunatic

    Here’s that last section in which they discuss Charles Murray:

    https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/61680?in=47:37

    The Etiology of Victimology | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show

    0:00 John’s appearance on “Real Time with Bill Maher”
    10:18 Why John’s 2000 book Losing the Race remains relevant today
    14:49 The “noble victim complex”
    23:00 The counterproductivity of victim narratives
    29:49 Where do you draw the line in calling out nonsense?
    39:45 Trading agency for victim status
    47:37 The exciting roster of upcoming TGS guests

    Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University) and John McWhorter (Columbia University, Lexicon Valley, The Atlantic). Recorded May 16, 2021.

  84. @Anon
    @MEH 0910

    Glenn Lowry is releasing conversations with McWhorter biweekly to SubStack paying subscribers, early in the week, I think, then dribbling out excerpts through the week, and releasing the full video on Bloggingheads, on Fridays, I think. In the current full hourish long installment they talk about this towards the end. Lowry says he has Cornell West scheduled, and invites McWhorter to participate. I think the only reason West is talking to Lowry is because he's promoting a book.

    Then Lowry remembers he's got Murray coming on also. McWhorter says he's preordered Murray's book and says it has to be reckoned with. And then Lowry describes the book, obviously having read it. Lowry is a data-driven econometric economist, and he said Murray had marshalled a lot of data and research and was an excellent writer. He also praised Murray as being an erudite and articulate speaker. At the same time he was frowning, leaving the impression that he didn't like the message Murray was delivering and hoped it wasn't true. (Trivia: Lowry blurbed The Bell Curve when it was first published, his quote is on the book, but he quickly regretted that.)

    Lowry is a real life counterexample to the HBD creed, a black ghetto punk who knocked up a young girl and generally was going nowhere fast, but who ended up at MIT, Harvard, Brown ... But even then was doing drugs part of that time. He became a Christian, then unbecame a Christian. He's had a wild ride, but is obviously a far right tail smart guy, probably a one in a million black guy. Lowry is the master of the disputational technique of listening closely, steelmanning his guest's views and asking for confirmation, and only then offering his own take and position. It's quite a civilized way of getting to the bottom of things.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Arclight, @ravin' lunatic

    One of the things I appreciate about Lowry is he has a sense of shame and anger about the way black America self-sabotages itself, and you can see McWhorter coming around over time as well. They both recognize a lot of the cultural gaslighting that is going on right now and are generally sick of the excuses.

  85. The Floyd-triggered unraveling must be situated in the context of America’s predilection to embrace what has been called “the con style.” This context has been called “the indigenous American berserk,” lying about like a loaded weapon, able to emerge and break the facade of rationality. This “context” factor used to be the stuff of cultural anthropologists and novelists to write about, but now it is a very real and crucial matter.

  86. California has been at the leading edge of most political and cultural movements, I do expect it to engender the next – anti black worship. It could be coming soon, starting this fall parents will realize with shock that their students didn’t get into UC system but AAs were imported from all over the country.

  87. Mr Sailer you are right when you say this African migration has already started. A couple of weeks ago I was in Tapachula, Mexico. (the city on the border with Guatemala). I have been going there for thirty years. For the first time I saw that the streets are overflowing with Black African immigrants heading north to the States. These are not your over achieving Nigerians. These are your scowling, hog the sidewalk with attitude Congo boys. At least hundreds of them, maybe thousands. All young men, virtually no women. As the nurse commented when asked about how the locals felt, she responded in that polite Mexican understatement, “Some people aren’t too happy about it.”. My thought at the time was they better get used to it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chapin

    Thanks.

  88. @ThurstonBT
    The link at the top of the story ...
    ... https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/ ...
    ... is broken.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  89. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato
    OT:

    Electioneering in Mexico. Not sure you can even get life insurance.

    Mexican election candidate SHOT DEAD shortly after going LIVE on Facebook to ask locals to join her at rally

    Since the start of the electoral process in September, more than 80 politicians have been murdered, most of them gunned down. Between February and April this year, more than 50 elected officials, members of political parties and candidates were killed, which is around 40% more than before the 2018 elections, Mexican consulting firm Integralia reports.

    More than 60 candidates for mayor are reported to have withdrawn from the campaign across Mexico amid the spiraling violence, which has been blamed on gang crime.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What a great idea!!!

  90. bruce county says:
    @Goingblankagain

    increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa
     
    My general impression is that African-Africans hold opinions about African Americans that make your average iSteve reader look like Ibram X Kendi.

    Tangentially related, but what's the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd's death declare bankruptcy?

    I'm going 3.5 years.

    Replies: @bruce county, @William Badwhite, @Spect3r

    Tangentially related, but what’s the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd’s death declare bankruptcy?

    How many will kill each other for one reason or another or how many of their new found distant relatives? He bought me Nikes..He’s MY uncle. Bang.. You’re dead.

  91. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    In upcoming years, opening the floodgates to excess Africans will be pitched to the public by Woke Capital as an economic necessity since whites aren’t reproducing fast enough to keep toilet paper sales growing.
     
    Did you know that third worlders don't use toilet paper in their home nations so we can't export it? There aren't enough native born American asses to meet our growth projections.

    We need to import the third world in order to cut our trees down and process the pulp into toilet paper to meet the increased demand for toilet paper made necessary by importing the third world.

    https://digital.hbs.edu/platform-rctom/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/11/koch-brands.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Why can’t we ‘cut out the middle man’ and simply export copies of the NYT for that purpose?

  92. @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Steve still thinks that giggling can undo law. Law is the clearest statement of intent by the true rulers. Were there other rulers, the laws would be different. In current law (and pseudo-legal policies like executive orders and federal policies), blacks are to be regarded as superior to whites. People have to live with the consequences of these bad laws. Giggling doesn't change anything.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    Why would you think Steve wants to change anything? Steve just wants to be droll and promulgate silly triple bank shot theories. Look at how he views trans issues- he doesn’t actually give a shit he just wants to run his mouth about how clever his theory is.

    Steve and Juan Unz worship the cathedral- they are just frustrated that the cathedral adores black swagger. White dorks hate swagger. If chuck schumer hated blacks Steve and Juan would have built shrines to him.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Matt Buckalew

    Schumer despises Shvartzes as much as anyone of his background and city. He once tried to get blacks in a particular apartment building to voluntarily evict themselves, so the building could be renovated to the point that the original residents could not afford to return. The residents figured out what the SAT whiz kid had planned and raised the money to move back in anyway.
    https://spectator.org/47532_race-top/

  93. Floydism is just an extension of woke ideology which is just an extension of the the dominant anti-white ideology Americans have embraced since the 1950s. The US legalized discrimination against whites decades ago. The core of the problem for whites started with affirmative action which legalized federal laws targeting Whites. Now that Christian Whites are a minority within the US we will see the hammer coming down on Whites, as most Americans will benefit from this attack on Whites.

    The Great awakening is just the left spiking the ball in the end-zone now that Whites are a minority among the US population under the age of 30. Our universities and High Schools have been majority non-white for several years now. Outside flyover zones, the US has been majority non-white for some time now. The majority of Americans benefit from wokeness since Straight White males are just 25% of the US population. 75% of Americans now benefit from woke ideology. It helps them advance their careers at the expense of white males. Floydism is just part of the great awakening , blaming Whites for Black pathology.

    Many people cling to the census data which will demonstrate that whites are still 60% of the US population. But Most whites are over the age of 50. We have more whites over the age of 65 than under the age of 20. The Future of America is the current Americans under the age of 25. they are majority non-white. They fully support the woke agenda.

  94. @Anon

    But less than that portion of unsolved murders are likely intra-racial, because murders between people who know each other, who are more likely to be the same race, are more likely to be solved.
     
    Freddie deBoer in his SubStack today:

    The phrase “diversity of opinion” or similar has become one of those triggers for very online people; if you use it unironically, in certain discursive spaces, they won’t even listen to the rest of what you say. It’s like the phrase “Black on Black crime” in how it provokes instant derision. Unfortunately this kneejerk dismissal means that nobody has ever sat down and written the reasons why diversity of opinion is wrong, to the point of being laughable, in a compelling essay - you know, expressing important ideas in clear and persuasive writing to advance the public good, instead of telling some shitty joke for retweets.
     
    I'd never thought of that, but yeah, pointing out that most crimes against blacks are by other blacks does seem to send people into another dimension.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  95. @Dan Smith
    America is building a gigantic Potemkin village. Think of it as the antithesis of Garrison Keillor’s Lake Wobegon. Particularly the part about the children being above average. The elite class will be saturated with under performing people of color. Often it won’t be obvious but in the long run mediocrity tends to degrade performance. Imagine, if you will, an NBA team consisting of only white people. It will win games but never contend for championships and sometimes be embarrassingly bad. My elite prep school and the Midwestern college I attended (Harvard of the Midwest) are both in the process of seeking new leaders. I’m betting both will choose minority females. They might get lucky and land one with high grade ability, but over time choices made on the basis of skin color will work against the best interests of the institution. I don’t give a damn.

    Replies: @Guest29048

    It can get much worse than that.

    LSU slipped up and had a football scandal, and by the time it was all over they had hired William F. Tate IV, a godfather of Critical Race Theory, as their new university president.
    https://thehayride.com/2021/05/lsu-just-hired-william-tate-as-its-president-heres-his-scholarly-record/

    “Did the people of Louisiana know that LSU was considering hiring a Critical Race Theorist? Probably not; I could not find anything about this in the state’s biggest paper, which serves Baton Rouge and New Orleans.”
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/america-promised-land-orban-hungary-critical-race-theory-lsu-soft-totalitarianism/

    There was a push in 2020 to require all LSU students to take CRT indoctrination. This push came from black players on the LSU football team.
    Black football players were telling the university what to teach. They almost got their way. In the end, the faculty senate voted it down. (I think that’s what happened.) Surprising.

    I’ve seen it before. Elite liberal institutional guardians sell out their institution to salve their sinful souls … while condemning the rest of us. For example, Ralph Northam and his blackface scandal in Virginia. LSU board felt guilty about football scandal and history of slavery and Jim-Crowism, so they gave the keys away to a tenured black radical.

  96. Floyd will be canonized by the Catholic Church inside of 20 years.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Yancey Ward

    https://www-images.christianitytoday.com/images/67488.jpg?w=600

    I think that The Venerable Bede is the only major historical figure to have that nickname — that adjective —widely recognized, and actually bonded to his name, so as to become a part of it....so far.

  97. HA says:
    @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    “By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true?”

    [Leo Frank’s attorney] Luther Rosser told jurors: “[the black guy] is a plain, beastly, drunken, filthy, lying n!gger with a spreading nose through which probably tons of cocaine have probably been sniffed.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @HA

    If he was anything like George Floyd (and he probably was) then it was probably true. Alonzo Mann thought it was true and he was in a position to know:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/08/us/after-69-years-of-silence-lynching-victim-is-cleared.html

    Of course by 2021 woke standards what Rosser said is shockingly "racist" and would never be used as a defense today (at least not in those words) this does not negate the distinct possibility that it was God's honest truth. It's just that in 2021, black people are royal and you are not allowed to point out their faults in such stark terms even if they are true. Truth is not a defense to the crime of lese majeste.

    To be honest, if Frank were on trial today, his defense lawyer would also try to impeach the character and credibility of the prosecution witnesses. He wouldn't put it in those exact words but he would still try to get that same message across to the jury.

    As I said before, what is mind blowing (to those who do not understand the dynamics of Atlanta 1913) is that the NY Jewish guy (or at least his lawyer) is cast in the role of the "racist" and the Southern prosecutor and all white Southern jury find the black guy to be more credible. But I already gave you the explanation - like any tribal society, their world was seen in concentric circles of kinship - " I against my brother. I and my brother against my cousin. I, my brother, and my cousin against the stranger." This is why Sunni and Shia can hate each other's guts but temporarily get together for the purpose of killing Americans or Jews. (Notice that truth has nothing to do with it - it's all who/whom.) In the context of this trial, Frank was the "stranger" and Conley was the "cousin". If Conley had been accused of another rape the next week and there was no "stranger" to scapegoat, the prosecutor himself would have had no problem repeating Rosser's claim - it would be instantly back to the "my brother and I against my cousin" level.

    Replies: @HA

  98. How long can the black superiority vogue last?

    Not forever, obviously….

    …How importing the heirs of African slave sellers will benefit the descendants of American slaves is almost as mysterious as how brain-draining Africa of what talent it has will be good for the burgeoning masses of that continent.

    It’ll work out fine. The Chinese will take over from black-run America, and they’ll learn how to manage blacks by taking over Africa first.

  99. @Chapin
    Mr Sailer you are right when you say this African migration has already started. A couple of weeks ago I was in Tapachula, Mexico. (the city on the border with Guatemala). I have been going there for thirty years. For the first time I saw that the streets are overflowing with Black African immigrants heading north to the States. These are not your over achieving Nigerians. These are your scowling, hog the sidewalk with attitude Congo boys. At least hundreds of them, maybe thousands. All young men, virtually no women. As the nurse commented when asked about how the locals felt, she responded in that polite Mexican understatement, "Some people aren't too happy about it.". My thought at the time was they better get used to it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  100. @Yancey Ward
    Floyd will be canonized by the Catholic Church inside of 20 years.

    Replies: @SafeNow


    I think that The Venerable Bede is the only major historical figure to have that nickname — that adjective —widely recognized, and actually bonded to his name, so as to become a part of it….so far.

  101. @Gordo
    @Art Deco


    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).
     
    They ain't what the used to be, WWI saw to that.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “peculiarly”

    What is not peculiar is Art’s servile impulse to defend a collection of entitled parasites. Art is a character so numbingly consistent that his only growth potential is in closeted psychopathy. He does however have a cute curmudgeonly aspect. I’ll keep the Art Deco notes on file; it’s possible he can fit into something not currently on the agenda.

  102. @Jack D

    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Matthew 20:16

    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
     
    Matthew 19:24

    The idea that the poor are morally elevated by their very poverty is deeply rooted in Christianity. It's part of what helped sell the religion because there are a lot more poor people than rich ones and so if you are trying to design a religion with the broadest possible appeal you want to say things that are appealing to the poor masses.

    Of course Christianity is not just one thing. There have been different versions of Christianity that emphasize success rather than failure. And what we have now is a post-Christian, distorted version of Christianity without God where certain selected Christian teachings have had their meanings stretched beyond all recognition and other teachings have been completely discarded. But, the impulse to assign moral worth to poverty is a very old one.

    There are a number of problems with importing Igbos in order to provide us with more competent blacks.

    First of all, it's not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

    2nd, while some are smart, they seem to be equally attracted to criminality as American blacks , but instead of holding up the Quickie Mart they are committing Medicaid fraud - it's not clear that this is an improvement. Perhaps less violent but the dollar amounts involved (therefore the damage they cause to society) are greater.

    Third, Igbos do not replace the American black underclass. Making Ikembe the principal of your local public school does not change the fact that there are 500 IQ85 Dyshauns and Tyshauna enrolled who are going to be dead weight in any technological society even before they go thru the wringer of dysfunctional ghetto culture.

    4th, the ghetto gangster culture has tremendous appeal - even some lower class whites and Asians imitate it. The most natural thing for the sons and daughters of African immigrants to do is to assimilate into African American culture and breed with (the much larger #) of low IQ African Americans. So whatever positive contribution they make to bringing up AA IQ (and culture) disappears after a generation or too as they dissolve into the masses. 50 years from now - "Oh yeah, I heard that my great grandpa was from Nigeria but I don't know nuffin about that."

    Replies: @bomag, @AnotherDad, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:

    Agree with most of what you’re saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently “for everyone”. And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn’t “baked in”. Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what’s going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And–as i’ve pointed out repeatedly and is obvious–WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    “Everyone should behave like a WASP.”

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! … stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don’t cause trouble, speak respectfully … act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.

    No this–celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms–comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks–their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, “racism!”–has been the cudgel Jews–leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment–have used to “J’accuse” American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is … obvious. Because the narrative isn’t even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there’s some sort of racist miasma–pretty much identical to the “anti-Semitism” miasma–that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff … but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity–plenty of Christians–would say “you should be fair to all people” or “racism is wrong”. (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll … compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It’s not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that’s Judaism.

    Steve is right:

    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude

    This is novel. No nation, civilization–not even Christian ones–holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs–competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization–no exception.) It’s national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Thanks: SafeNow
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @AnotherDad

    It is not minoritarianism. It is the sexual marketplace. The most repulsive Rapper Thug, aka St. Fentanyl, is more attractive to women of all races than the most striving and successful White nerd. White women in particular are in revolt against the men around them, their White peers. Too cooperative, too nice, too beta.

    Look at the most successful White men with women. All cultivate an edge of danger. Many have tats, violence signifiers. None act cooperative and beta.

    The tragedy of Western (and Eastern, they suffer the same issues) Civilization is that it depends on lots and lots of high IQ, cooperative men who are poison to the sexual marketplace. Women will if absolutely forced to, mate with them but they will never generate lady tingles the way an ex con with a taste for violence will. And that's black men in every particular. Violent, dangerous, ugly, low IQ, highly impulsive. Per the comment above, Nietsche's Superman writ large.

    The problem is that with enough of them, all you get is Rwanda. Or Nigeria. Nothing capable of building even a bicycle, much less provide clean water, power on all the time, safety, non corrupt law enforcement and a non corrupt and competent legal system.

    Rappers don't scale -- just look at them. White men don't scale -- look at the reproduction rate which is utterly dependent on how sexy the men are (compared to any competition). Ads are filled with Rapper male, White women couples because that is what White women WANT.

    White women WANT a society filled with Rappers at every position of any size, and this is going to lead to violence. Will White men just go away and give up what is theirs, including their women? No. No other group of men have before. At some point, things will get violent.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    , @S
    @AnotherDad


    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.
     
    Yes, and folks tried to warn about this, such as in the 1907 book linked below, The Negro A Menace to American Civilization, which describes in gory detail some of the Black on White murders/rape/ general mayhem, which was taking place then.

    Well before that there was the 1851 book, Negro-mania, and the specific incident described below that the writer had personally observed in Philadelphia amongst some early 'progressives'* which prompted him to write his book.


    Negro-mania (1851) - pg 4 & 5

    ..Mr. Johnson, a mulatto, lectured in
    the Franklin Hall,
    upon the same subject; the portions taken by Mr. Johnson were, that the ancient Egyptians were negroes, and that they were the originators of the arts and sciences. The discussion and lectures were carried on in the Franklin Hall, and were attended by about nine hundred or one thousand persons. The only lectures which were not free to criticism were Mr. Johnson's.
     

    * 'Progressives' were around in the mid 19th century and called themselves by that name.


    https://archive.org/details/negromenacetoame00shuf/page/n3/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/negromaniabeinge00camp/page/4/mode/2up

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @vhrm
    @AnotherDad


    But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian,
     
    Well, Jesus was the leader of an upstart religion in a far flung province who was executed by the Roman empire for rabble rousing. The Christians of the bible were definitely a small persecuted people and it absolutely exalts the downtrodden as Jack D pointed out.

    Certainly Christianity then went on to be a continents wide only religion for about 1500 years, trouncing all that came before it, but the basic teachings still emphasize humility, subservience to God (and Caesar) etc and afaik Christianity as taught and practiced generally ignores the part about how it is and has been the dominant force and, even in Catholicism, spends a lot of time with scripture.

    If one reads Atlas Shrugged and has an aversion to the celebration of and exhortation to enlightened self-interest, and the absolute vilification of "self-sacrifice". i think that's in reaction to a Christian baseline that inculcates self-abasement and self-sacrifice.

    I'm agnostic on the degree to which jews (or more precisely _some_ jews) use blacks to destabilize WASPs so that said WASPs won't mess w/ the jews. To some degree it's a normal guerilla tactic, right?

    The US did it to the USSR by supporting muhajadeen in Afghanistan.
    The USSR did it to the US by supporting Cuba.
    China is doing it to the West and Japan by supporting North Korea
    Russia is doing it to the West with its handful of frozen conflicts and puppet states in Eastern Europe.
    etc. etc.

    Also, if i were in a 2% of the population pseudo-minority i certainly wouldn't encourage the majority to be ultra-racist and nationalistic.
    Which brings us around to the question: how much do the woke REALLY want to convince whites that they have a shared identity and group interests? To me it seems relatively insane to do so considering how much time and effort the US and liberals have invested into universalism.

    By pushing and pulling they are going to create (or resurrect) the very racism that they imagine exists but has really been in decline for 100 years and mostly dead for about the past 40.

    , @S
    @AnotherDad


    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.
     
    Yes, and folks tried to warn about this, such as in the 1907 book linked below, The Negro A Menace to American Civilization, which describes in gory detail some of the Black on White murders/rape/ general mayhem, which was taking place then.

    Well before that there was the 1851 book, Negro-mania, and the specific incident described below that the writer had personally observed in Philadelphia amongst some early ‘progressives’* which prompted him to write his book.

    Negro-mania (1851) – pg 4 & 5

    ..Mr. Johnson, a mulatto, lectured in
    the Franklin Hall,
    upon the same subject; the portions taken by Mr. Johnson were, that the ancient Egyptians were negroes, and that they were the originators of the arts and sciences. The discussion and lectures were carried on in the Franklin Hall, and were attended by about nine hundred or one thousand persons. The only lectures which were not free to criticism were Mr. Johnson’s.
     
    * ‘Progressives’ were around in the mid 19th century and called themselves by that name.

    https://archive.org/details/negromenacetoame00shuf/page/n3/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/negromaniabeinge00camp/page/4/mode/2up
  103. @Peter Sellers
    @Polistra

    Cry more snowflake

    Imagine having all the wealth and property handed to you on a silver platter and terrorizing People of Color and then getting upset when called on it.

    Can’t handle the truth huh?

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Charon, @anon

    Eh, you were better in the Pink Panther.

  104. @Matt Buckalew
    @J.Ross

    Why would you think Steve wants to change anything? Steve just wants to be droll and promulgate silly triple bank shot theories. Look at how he views trans issues- he doesn’t actually give a shit he just wants to run his mouth about how clever his theory is.

    Steve and Juan Unz worship the cathedral- they are just frustrated that the cathedral adores black swagger. White dorks hate swagger. If chuck schumer hated blacks Steve and Juan would have built shrines to him.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Schumer despises Shvartzes as much as anyone of his background and city. He once tried to get blacks in a particular apartment building to voluntarily evict themselves, so the building could be renovated to the point that the original residents could not afford to return. The residents figured out what the SAT whiz kid had planned and raised the money to move back in anyway.
    https://spectator.org/47532_race-top/

  105. @RichardTaylor
    The future of anti-Whitism is what matters. The Ivy League and the Establishment have pushed it for over 70 years.

    Steve keeps wanting to treat this as some kind of technical problem for the people who run institutions to solve. Seemingly, oblivious to the fact that they hate White people.

    Trying to appeal to them like this is an optimization problem is a loser. HBD'ers don't hate White folks. They just don't particularly care about them. All their solutions involve being aware of racial differences but not out of any fellow-feeling; just as a matter of technical efficiency in their technocracy fantasyland.

    https://www.vactualpapers.com/web/wallpapers/the-only-thing-worse-than-hate-is-indifference-hd-wallpaper-1/thumbnail/lg.jpg

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Exactly correct. Floydism and the Great Awakening are just manifestations of the ideology our schools and media have been promoting for decades.

    Today the majority of Americans support the Great Awakening because White Christians are now a minority in America. Whites are a minority of the US population under the age of 25 and just 52% of Americans under the age of 45 are white. 10% of whites have non-white children, so their progeny benefits from the woke agenda. Demographics ensures that the anti-white agenda will become even more popular over the next decade as the white population continues to decline rapidly as white deaths exceed white births every year going forward. Over the next decade White deaths will outnumber white births by 5 million or more. The White population in America has already declined by a million people over the past decade and this trend is accelerating.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  106. The Future of Floydism

    That sounds like a birth defect.

  107. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true? Is it “racist” to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy?

    Leo Frank, the Emmett Till of the Jews.

    My knowledge limited to the wikipedia article … I tend to agree on Frank. If i had to bet–bet on the black guy. But like Emmett Till … what’s that have to do with now?

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    You don’t have to be an “anti-Semite” Jack, just an American. Americans are naturally incensed by it because it was a wholly unprovoked attack–twice if i remember–on a clearly marked American ship resulting in 30+ American sailors being killed and 100+ more wounded. (By a nation which gets billions and billions of dollars in American aid and for which American policy is torqued around in ways that cause us great trouble.) “Americans” whose reaction is not thinking about these sailors and being pissed off, but to run to the defense of Israel are “Americans” (AINOs).

    Knowledge at the wikipedia article level only–never having engaged with the literature–my guess is “screw up”. I think it’s mostly a reminder that the Israelis really aren’t all that. The Israeli military reputation comes from an aggressive “shoot first ask questions later” orientation, better (Western/American) equipment and mostly from fighting Arabs. Supermen, super-competent they are not.

    But again for actual Americans their sympathies immediately lie with the American boys on board and they are naturally pissed off.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with most of what you say. And keep in mind that in 1967, communications, radar, satellites, etc. are nothing like the are now, especially for the Israelis who were not the high tech defense powerhouses that they are today.

    BUT, "friendly fire" incidents happen in every war. They happen against our own troops and they happen against allies. For example, during the Iraq War, American A-10's mistakenly fired on some British armored vehicles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident

    While at the time this resulted in some hard feelings in the British press (which is completely understandable) AFAIK, it is a dead issue in Britain today. America haters in Britain don't keep bringing it up.

    But the Liberty incident seems to be evergreen. Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find) but OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Charon

  108. Well, that was uplifting.

  109. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    The black guy was (presumably) a fellow Christian. Frank, not so much.

  110. @bomag
    @Anon

    Thanks.

    When pushed, for example, on the achievement gap between Blacks and Asians, I've heard McWhorter say, "I'm not going to go there", which seems to be as close as we can get to an acknowledgement of the facts on the ground.

    Replies: @Redmen

    I’ve heard McWhorter say, “I’m not going to go there”

    That’s interesting. Because if he (and Loury) are going to interview Charles Murray, he’s probably going to have to “go there.”

  111. “all-knowing conspiratorial deep state out to get you”

    I’m partial to sociological complexity: the world is driven by cabals, ancient and new, that are often allied but sometimes start wars to settle disagreements. In the end the cabals will remain intact or reconfigure into something new while the serfs rot on the battlefields. Reality exists between chaos and predetermination.

    “truths that you can’t say in public become even harder to say in private, and, ultimately, even difficult to conceive of in your own mind”

    If you work in an environment where certain obvious truths like the ones Steve illustrates in his, I must admit, brilliant essay then you keep your mouth shut. But that energy can’t be bottled up so you either have conversations with inanimate objects or you allow it to expand in your mind which will feed your dreams and narratives. This is how philosophies are formed.

    “in which African immigration drives down white reproduction”

    The fear of a black planet is coming true. Certain (cabals) of Western elites made the decision that whitey is too enamored with individualism; too set on self-governance. Whitey’s got to go, to be replaced by the more malleable personages of colour. So Frau Merkel opened the gates to Europe.

  112. If we continue to scoop up the cream of Africa, what remains will become even sourer. It’s possible that will stop the population growth, but look what happened with Syria.

    As of five years ago, almost one in ten blacks in America had been born abroad.

    I find that hard to believe. Did we take that many Somalis?

  113. @HA
    @Jack D

    "By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true?"


    [Leo Frank's attorney] Luther Rosser told jurors: “[the black guy] is a plain, beastly, drunken, filthy, lying n!gger with a spreading nose through which probably tons of cocaine have probably been sniffed.”
     

    Replies: @Jack D

    If he was anything like George Floyd (and he probably was) then it was probably true. Alonzo Mann thought it was true and he was in a position to know:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/08/us/after-69-years-of-silence-lynching-victim-is-cleared.html

    Of course by 2021 woke standards what Rosser said is shockingly “racist” and would never be used as a defense today (at least not in those words) this does not negate the distinct possibility that it was God’s honest truth. It’s just that in 2021, black people are royal and you are not allowed to point out their faults in such stark terms even if they are true. Truth is not a defense to the crime of lese majeste.

    To be honest, if Frank were on trial today, his defense lawyer would also try to impeach the character and credibility of the prosecution witnesses. He wouldn’t put it in those exact words but he would still try to get that same message across to the jury.

    As I said before, what is mind blowing (to those who do not understand the dynamics of Atlanta 1913) is that the NY Jewish guy (or at least his lawyer) is cast in the role of the “racist” and the Southern prosecutor and all white Southern jury find the black guy to be more credible. But I already gave you the explanation – like any tribal society, their world was seen in concentric circles of kinship – ” I against my brother. I and my brother against my cousin. I, my brother, and my cousin against the stranger.” This is why Sunni and Shia can hate each other’s guts but temporarily get together for the purpose of killing Americans or Jews. (Notice that truth has nothing to do with it – it’s all who/whom.) In the context of this trial, Frank was the “stranger” and Conley was the “cousin”. If Conley had been accused of another rape the next week and there was no “stranger” to scapegoat, the prosecutor himself would have had no problem repeating Rosser’s claim – it would be instantly back to the “my brother and I against my cousin” level.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Jack D

    "If he was anything like George Floyd (and he probably was) then it was probably true."

    Probable or not, with language like that, it is definitely predicated on racism which is what you were disputing. We're talking "de facto" and "flagrante delicto". Black and white, even.

    "Alonzo Mann thought it was true and he was in a position to know"

    He claimed, decades later, that when he was a 14 year old boy working at the factory, he saw Conley carrying the limp form of Phagan away, which is as consistent with Conley's claim that Frank enlisted him to get rid of the body as it is with the claim that Conley himself killed her. Yes, Conley did, according to Mann, say he'd kill him if he told anyone about what he saw, but again, that is completely consistent with either scenario.

    I'm not saying it's certain Frank killed her (though based on the jury transcripts, there seems to be general agreement that he was a Harvey Weinstein type who preyed on his young female employees). But if you're going to try and pass off Mann's testimony as an exoneration, that just tells me the overall case for exonerating him is weak.

  114. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process

    Due process is increasingly appearing to be an anachronism. As Christopher Caldwell has posited, the Civil Rights Act has all but superseded the Constitution as half the country’s founding document. Was Chauvin given due process with the show trial last month? Will Fauci (or Clapper or Brennan) be charged with perjury in testimony to Congress, like Roger Stone was? Will the protestors/rioters of 1/6 be treated the same as the BLM and Antifa rioters and arsonists?

    Under Biden and his enablers, TPTB seek racial equity and due process be damned. Notwithstanding, my non-expert suspicion is that 90% is a probably a bit high.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Redmen

    I admit that due process is not always achieved. Sometimes Lady Justice peeks just a little bit out from behind that blindfold and puts her thumb on the side of the scale that she favors.

    However, the mandate of our Constitution was not to form a perfect union but a MORE perfect union. The cure for injustice is not more injustice. The other side did it first is a playground level way of looking at the world. We should alway be striving to root out injustice and live under the rule of law as much as humanly possible.

    What we have, even an imperfect system of justice, is a hell of a lot better than what most humans have lived under for most of history (including today in many countries) and we have the results to show for it. Once you discard that it, it can be very hard to get it back and I fear that we will regret it. The elimination of lynching, even for the guilty, was a positive step in American history.

  115. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick of Orcs
    When a business hires a black person it screws itself twice.

    First, odds are excellent someone more qualified was turned away.

    Second, the company now has a 'racism grenade' on its hands, likely to explode at slights real or imagined; black employees will be held to lower standards and criticism of performance will go unsaid due to the aforementioned grenade.

    All this is tolerated for the sake of earning virtue-signaling diversity points which may or may not satisfy woketards.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    This is just part of the cost of doing business, like paying taxes. Just as the government takes a share of your company’s income, so it requires you to employ these people and take the financial hit that results.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    @Anonymous

    As fools never learn, tolerance of one evil doesn't plug the leak. The federal mob never stops. You want in? Hire more women, gays, cripples, etc.

    These days I barely type more than the word Secession. Don't have to. The Enemy makes the case every day now.

  116. WATCH – Race Matters: America After George Floyd | A PBS NewsHour Special

    One year after the police killing of George Floyd, where does America go from here? in the special “Race Matters: America after George Floyd,” PBS NewsHour anchor and managing editor Judy Woodruff and our reporters talk to people and experts across the country about the lasting effects of systemic racism, the lingering distrust between communities of color and law enforcement, the trauma that remains for so many and what the future looks like.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @MEH 0910

    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare "Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!"

    A prime example was the 2007 Christian-Newsom torture-murders in Knoxville Tennessee. The local DA's office, the elected District Attorney General and his chief spokesman especially, practically gave the "ringleader" the defense his attorneys used of trashing the victims.

    My friend Nicholas Stix wrote more about this case than anyone with the exception of the local crime reporter. I assisted him.

    Replies: @Lurker, @MEH 0910

  117. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Agree with most of what you're saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently "for everyone". And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn't "baked in". Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what's going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And--as i've pointed out repeatedly and is obvious--WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    "Everyone should behave like a WASP."

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! ... stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don't cause trouble, speak respectfully ... act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.


    No this--celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms--comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks--their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, "racism!"--has been the cudgel Jews--leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment--have used to "J'accuse" American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is ... obvious. Because the narrative isn't even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there's some sort of racist miasma--pretty much identical to the "anti-Semitism" miasma--that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff ... but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity--plenty of Christians--would say "you should be fair to all people" or "racism is wrong". (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll ... compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It's not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that's Judaism.


    Steve is right:


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     
    This is novel. No nation, civilization--not even Christian ones--holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs--competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization--no exception.) It's national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @S, @vhrm, @S

    It is not minoritarianism. It is the sexual marketplace. The most repulsive Rapper Thug, aka St. Fentanyl, is more attractive to women of all races than the most striving and successful White nerd. White women in particular are in revolt against the men around them, their White peers. Too cooperative, too nice, too beta.

    Look at the most successful White men with women. All cultivate an edge of danger. Many have tats, violence signifiers. None act cooperative and beta.

    The tragedy of Western (and Eastern, they suffer the same issues) Civilization is that it depends on lots and lots of high IQ, cooperative men who are poison to the sexual marketplace. Women will if absolutely forced to, mate with them but they will never generate lady tingles the way an ex con with a taste for violence will. And that’s black men in every particular. Violent, dangerous, ugly, low IQ, highly impulsive. Per the comment above, Nietsche’s Superman writ large.

    The problem is that with enough of them, all you get is Rwanda. Or Nigeria. Nothing capable of building even a bicycle, much less provide clean water, power on all the time, safety, non corrupt law enforcement and a non corrupt and competent legal system.

    Rappers don’t scale — just look at them. White men don’t scale — look at the reproduction rate which is utterly dependent on how sexy the men are (compared to any competition). Ads are filled with Rapper male, White women couples because that is what White women WANT.

    White women WANT a society filled with Rappers at every position of any size, and this is going to lead to violence. Will White men just go away and give up what is theirs, including their women? No. No other group of men have before. At some point, things will get violent.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Whiskey

    Ads are filled with Rapper male, White women couples because that is what White women WANT.
     

    No, the ads (and the rest of the media) are filled with that because it's what the Jewish media owners want white women to want.

    And white women (as well as most white men, and other people) are susceptible to sophisticated propaganda techniques.

  118. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    By saying that Frank’s defense was predicated on “racism” Loki is assuming Frank’s guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank’s defense because it was true? Is it “racist” to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy?
     
    Leo Frank, the Emmett Till of the Jews.

    My knowledge limited to the wikipedia article ... I tend to agree on Frank. If i had to bet--bet on the black guy. But like Emmett Till ... what's that have to do with now?

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.
     
    You don't have to be an "anti-Semite" Jack, just an American. Americans are naturally incensed by it because it was a wholly unprovoked attack--twice if i remember--on a clearly marked American ship resulting in 30+ American sailors being killed and 100+ more wounded. (By a nation which gets billions and billions of dollars in American aid and for which American policy is torqued around in ways that cause us great trouble.) "Americans" whose reaction is not thinking about these sailors and being pissed off, but to run to the defense of Israel are "Americans" (AINOs).

    Knowledge at the wikipedia article level only--never having engaged with the literature--my guess is "screw up". I think it's mostly a reminder that the Israelis really aren't all that. The Israeli military reputation comes from an aggressive "shoot first ask questions later" orientation, better (Western/American) equipment and mostly from fighting Arabs. Supermen, super-competent they are not.

    But again for actual Americans their sympathies immediately lie with the American boys on board and they are naturally pissed off.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I agree with most of what you say. And keep in mind that in 1967, communications, radar, satellites, etc. are nothing like the are now, especially for the Israelis who were not the high tech defense powerhouses that they are today.

    BUT, “friendly fire” incidents happen in every war. They happen against our own troops and they happen against allies. For example, during the Iraq War, American A-10’s mistakenly fired on some British armored vehicles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident

    While at the time this resulted in some hard feelings in the British press (which is completely understandable) AFAIK, it is a dead issue in Britain today. America haters in Britain don’t keep bringing it up.

    But the Liberty incident seems to be evergreen. Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find) but OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Agree. When you're blowing stuff up all over ... you can easily blow up the wrong stuff.

    An example: the Soviets shot down the KAL 007 747 thinking it was an American spy plane, but mostly not being very careful about identification.

    The US made a big stink about it... then five years later shot down an Iranian airliner by not being very careful about identification.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Charon
    @Jack D


    Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find)
     
    Because the Emmett Till incident is thrown in our faces daily by the MSM. The same MSM which ignores anything like the Liberty incident. Are you seriously pretending not to know this?

    OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?
     
    You've convinced me that it is relevant after all, and I've never brought it up once in my life. It's a great illustration of US-Israeli relations all right.
  119. @Stealth
    We might not need them, but there are plenty of white people who want them. White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining at a chain restaurant at the mall on a Friday night I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.

    Sometimes I half jokingly wonder to myself if some teenage girls have jumped on the LGBT train as a way to avoid having to participate in this other craze that has gripped their peers.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @The Wild Geese Howard, @AnotherDad

    “White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance.”

    White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of [dogs], for instance. The real competition for white women that white men face is the canine. It seems as if dogs have their own cabal.

  120. Again–separate nations.

    White people–and other middle class Americans who appreciate “whiteness” and don’t mind being “white adjacent”–simply need to get out from under minoritarianism.

    That’s the standard. That’s what any sort of nationalist/conservative politics needs to do.

    Any “conservatism” which is not taking on minoritarianism front and center is just a complete waste of time. If minoritarianism isn’t defeated–or separated from–there is nothing to conserve.

    How we achieve that …. get rid of the useless Republican goobers, get the sort of politics we need to save at least a remnant of America … i’m open to suggestions.

  121. @Redmen
    @Jack D


    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process
     
    Due process is increasingly appearing to be an anachronism. As Christopher Caldwell has posited, the Civil Rights Act has all but superseded the Constitution as half the country's founding document. Was Chauvin given due process with the show trial last month? Will Fauci (or Clapper or Brennan) be charged with perjury in testimony to Congress, like Roger Stone was? Will the protestors/rioters of 1/6 be treated the same as the BLM and Antifa rioters and arsonists?

    Under Biden and his enablers, TPTB seek racial equity and due process be damned. Notwithstanding, my non-expert suspicion is that 90% is a probably a bit high.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I admit that due process is not always achieved. Sometimes Lady Justice peeks just a little bit out from behind that blindfold and puts her thumb on the side of the scale that she favors.

    However, the mandate of our Constitution was not to form a perfect union but a MORE perfect union. The cure for injustice is not more injustice. The other side did it first is a playground level way of looking at the world. We should alway be striving to root out injustice and live under the rule of law as much as humanly possible.

    What we have, even an imperfect system of justice, is a hell of a lot better than what most humans have lived under for most of history (including today in many countries) and we have the results to show for it. Once you discard that it, it can be very hard to get it back and I fear that we will regret it. The elimination of lynching, even for the guilty, was a positive step in American history.

  122. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with most of what you say. And keep in mind that in 1967, communications, radar, satellites, etc. are nothing like the are now, especially for the Israelis who were not the high tech defense powerhouses that they are today.

    BUT, "friendly fire" incidents happen in every war. They happen against our own troops and they happen against allies. For example, during the Iraq War, American A-10's mistakenly fired on some British armored vehicles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident

    While at the time this resulted in some hard feelings in the British press (which is completely understandable) AFAIK, it is a dead issue in Britain today. America haters in Britain don't keep bringing it up.

    But the Liberty incident seems to be evergreen. Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find) but OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Charon

    Agree. When you’re blowing stuff up all over … you can easily blow up the wrong stuff.

    An example: the Soviets shot down the KAL 007 747 thinking it was an American spy plane, but mostly not being very careful about identification.

    The US made a big stink about it… then five years later shot down an Iranian airliner by not being very careful about identification.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @AnotherDad


    An example: the Soviets shot down the KAL 007 747 thinking it was an American spy plane, but mostly not being very careful about identification.
     

    Gennadi Osipovich held up his thick hands to show how, 13 years ago, he maneuvered his SU-15 fighter to blast a Korean 747 airliner out of the sky.

    It was the morning of Sept. 1, 1983, and Lieut. Col. Gennadi Osipovich's unit had scrambled from its secret base on Sakhalin Island to intercept an intruder. After trailing the unidentified plane for more than 60 miles, the Soviet pilot zoomed alongside to get a look for himself.

    ''I was just next to him, on the same altitude, 150 meters to 200 meters away,'' he recalled in conversations with a reporter this weekend.

    From the flashing lights and the configuration of the windows, he recognized the aircraft as a civilian type of plane, he said.

    ''I saw two rows of windows and knew that this was a Boeing,'' he said. ''I knew this was a civilian plane. But for me this meant nothing. It is easy to turn a civilian type of plane into one for military use.''

    Minutes later, he fired two air-to-air missiles, sending Korean Air Lines Flight 007 crashing into the sea, killing 269 people and causing what President Boris N. Yeltsin has called the greatest tragedy of the cold war.

    For years, experts have debated whether the Soviet pilot was aware he was downing a civilian plane or had mistaken the 747 for an RC-135 American military reconnaissance plane.

    But Colonel Osipovich says he knew he had no doubts that he was dealing with a civilian plane and not an RC-135. Viewed through the prism of the cold war, the pilot treated the plane not as a lost commercial airliner, but as part of a nefarious mission against the Soviet homeland.

    Colonel Osipovich also disclosed that in the pressure of the moment, he did not provide a full-description of the intruder to Soviet ground controllers.

    ''I did not tell the ground that it was a Boeing-type plane,'' he recalled. ''They did not ask me.''

    He did, however, tell Soviet ground controllers that the plane had blinking lights on, which he says was an indication that it could be a transport plane.

    Colonel Osipovich was directed toward the intruder and intercepted the plane about 95 miles from Soviet airspace. He maneuvered behind the plane and from a distance of 13 kilometers, nearly 8 miles, soon had him in his sights.

    ''It was huge,'' he said. ''I saw everything, including the blinking lights on top and bottom.''

    His first thought was that it was a Soviet transport plane being used to test the readiness of the air defense forces.

    ''I thought it was some kind of inspection because never before had I seen foreign planes fly with those blinking lights,'' he said. While American intelligence planes commonly flew along the Soviet periphery, Western commercial airlines never came close to the heavily militarized Soviet region, flying their passenger routes hundreds of miles away.

    ''I asked the ground what to do,'' he said. ''They got scared and told me to force him to land, and this was our big mistake.''

    Zooming to his target, Colonel Osipovoich pulled his SU-15 jet alongside the lumbering 747 at an altitude of about 34,000 feet. The 747's double row of windows were visible, he said.

    Making a maneuver Russian pilots called the ''snake,'' he descended and pulled behind the intruder. He fired two missiles.

    ''Thank god, they hit,'' he recalled.

    When KAL 007 was shot down, it was only 20 to 25 seconds from reaching neutral territory, he said, which would have prevented the shootdown.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/09/world/ex-soviet-pilot-still-insists-kal-007-was-spying.html
     
  123. @Peter Sellers
    @Polistra

    Cry more snowflake

    Imagine having all the wealth and property handed to you on a silver platter and terrorizing People of Color and then getting upset when called on it.

    Can’t handle the truth huh?

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Charon, @anon

    Where is all this wealth and property they’re giving away, and how do I get some?

  124. @MEH 0910
    WATCH - Race Matters: America After George Floyd | A PBS NewsHour Special
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6twRs69gk4

    One year after the police killing of George Floyd, where does America go from here? in the special “Race Matters: America after George Floyd,” PBS NewsHour anchor and managing editor Judy Woodruff and our reporters talk to people and experts across the country about the lasting effects of systemic racism, the lingering distrust between communities of color and law enforcement, the trauma that remains for so many and what the future looks like.
     

    Replies: @David In TN

    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare “Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!”

    A prime example was the 2007 Christian-Newsom torture-murders in Knoxville Tennessee. The local DA’s office, the elected District Attorney General and his chief spokesman especially, practically gave the “ringleader” the defense his attorneys used of trashing the victims.

    My friend Nicholas Stix wrote more about this case than anyone with the exception of the local crime reporter. I assisted him.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @David In TN


    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare “Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!”
     
    Just as bad is when the victim's family/friends say the same and plead that no one make it about race, politicise it etc. When the reverse happens we meekly accept that race is the crucial factor, that the narrative will be politicised.
    , @MEH 0910
    @David In TN

    Paul Kersey does a good job covering black on white murder.

    https://www.unz.com/author/paul-kersey/

  125. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @countenance

    True, most White Americans don’t live near Blacks and thus the increase in Black violence has little impact on whites since most they live isolated from urban Blacks. The Ferguson effect was limited to St. Louis and a few other large cities. The Floyd effect spread to most of the Black urban areas compounded due to the economic and social damage caused by the lockdowns.

    Replies: @countenance, @znon

    I myself am a native St. Louisan.

    One thing that I realized after things died down is how isolated the geography of the relevant events were.

    I had not been to any part of Ferguson since 2007, and not to the Fergaza Strip (as I would come to call it) since 1995.

    I realized that, if I never paid attention to the news, and considering where I lived at the time, and where I worked at the time, I would have never realized the major international daily news taking place under my nose.

    And that goes back to my point: While these kinds of things fill out screens: TVs, tablets, phones, etc., they are very geographically niche.

  126. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    I'm not interested in doing the work involved but just by virtue of geographic location and victim identity you could probably determine that it was highly unlikely that at least 10% of unsolved murders involved blacks. If someone turns up dead on an Indian reservation in N. Dakota, what are the odds that the unknown killer was black?

    Something like 80% of murders are INTRA-racial so just by looking at the identity of the victim you can make a pretty good guess at the identity of the perp. The race of the victim is known in almost all cases.

    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. "Snitches get stitches" applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charon

    The natural assumption is that the identity of unknown killers roughly matches that of known killers. “Snitches get stitches” applies equally to known and unknown killers. I could believe that there is some variance in the case of unknown killers but going from 55% to 90% is just not credible. If you are saying this, the burden is on you to prove that kind of variance exists.

    You’re the one who just said it’s “easily debunked” then turn around and say it’s too much trouble even to try. And your first sentence here about your “natural assumption” indicates that you’re well out of your depth in this discussion.

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
  127. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with most of what you say. And keep in mind that in 1967, communications, radar, satellites, etc. are nothing like the are now, especially for the Israelis who were not the high tech defense powerhouses that they are today.

    BUT, "friendly fire" incidents happen in every war. They happen against our own troops and they happen against allies. For example, during the Iraq War, American A-10's mistakenly fired on some British armored vehicles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident

    While at the time this resulted in some hard feelings in the British press (which is completely understandable) AFAIK, it is a dead issue in Britain today. America haters in Britain don't keep bringing it up.

    But the Liberty incident seems to be evergreen. Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find) but OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Charon

    Folks here talk about how ridiculous it is that Emmett Till is constantly being brought up (because more recent examples of white perfidy are hard to find)

    Because the Emmett Till incident is thrown in our faces daily by the MSM. The same MSM which ignores anything like the Liberty incident. Are you seriously pretending not to know this?

    OTOH they have no problem dragging out the Liberty incident where this was resolved to the satisfaction of both governments and for the most part US-Israeli relations have been excellent during 50+ years since. What is the relevance of the Liberty to US-Israeli relations in 2021?

    You’ve convinced me that it is relevant after all, and I’ve never brought it up once in my life. It’s a great illustration of US-Israeli relations all right.

  128. Instead of importing smart Africans, maybe smart white/Asian men should start impregnating all the black women they can (not sure how this can be arranged). For a while there, black women wanted to have lighter skinned children. That may not still be the fashion.

  129. @Anonymous
    @Sick of Orcs

    This is just part of the cost of doing business, like paying taxes. Just as the government takes a share of your company's income, so it requires you to employ these people and take the financial hit that results.

    Replies: @Sick of Orcs

    As fools never learn, tolerance of one evil doesn’t plug the leak. The federal mob never stops. You want in? Hire more women, gays, cripples, etc.

    These days I barely type more than the word Secession. Don’t have to. The Enemy makes the case every day now.

  130. @Whiskey
    @AnotherDad

    It is not minoritarianism. It is the sexual marketplace. The most repulsive Rapper Thug, aka St. Fentanyl, is more attractive to women of all races than the most striving and successful White nerd. White women in particular are in revolt against the men around them, their White peers. Too cooperative, too nice, too beta.

    Look at the most successful White men with women. All cultivate an edge of danger. Many have tats, violence signifiers. None act cooperative and beta.

    The tragedy of Western (and Eastern, they suffer the same issues) Civilization is that it depends on lots and lots of high IQ, cooperative men who are poison to the sexual marketplace. Women will if absolutely forced to, mate with them but they will never generate lady tingles the way an ex con with a taste for violence will. And that's black men in every particular. Violent, dangerous, ugly, low IQ, highly impulsive. Per the comment above, Nietsche's Superman writ large.

    The problem is that with enough of them, all you get is Rwanda. Or Nigeria. Nothing capable of building even a bicycle, much less provide clean water, power on all the time, safety, non corrupt law enforcement and a non corrupt and competent legal system.

    Rappers don't scale -- just look at them. White men don't scale -- look at the reproduction rate which is utterly dependent on how sexy the men are (compared to any competition). Ads are filled with Rapper male, White women couples because that is what White women WANT.

    White women WANT a society filled with Rappers at every position of any size, and this is going to lead to violence. Will White men just go away and give up what is theirs, including their women? No. No other group of men have before. At some point, things will get violent.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Ads are filled with Rapper male, White women couples because that is what White women WANT.

    No, the ads (and the rest of the media) are filled with that because it’s what the Jewish media owners want white women to want.

    And white women (as well as most white men, and other people) are susceptible to sophisticated propaganda techniques.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  131. @James Speaks

    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.
     
    British aristocracy?

    Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training. American institutions have been hungry for adept blacks since the 1960s, with numerous diversity pushes having failed already.
     
    Inflation looms (dollar worth less) and it will be bad enough, but there is another factor, the Negro tax. To wit, the additional cost of having to carry additional, non-functional negroes because BLM says so.

    But why does he have to? Why have we wound up with a culture where so many are oblivious to the obvious?
     
    Because (((they))) say so.

    .... but at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.
     
    I hear necklacing is back.

    ...Emmett Till ...
     
    Damn! I though it was my turn to invoke Lord Till.

    We don’t need or want more Africans; we have enough already.
     
    But, but, but, look at all the things negroes have done for us.

    Awesome column, BTW.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It’s hard to predict because it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude.

    British aristocracy?

    The conceit of Nazi racial chauvinism is alongside that of class egalitarianism. The top ranks of British military were entirely staffed by members of the Peerage. Similarly in WW1 there was not one German Generalfeldmarschall without the aristocratic „von“ particle in their names.

    But the Wehrmacht would have two Generalfeldmarschall, Erwin Rommel and Walther Model, to come from homes of school teachers. Along with others like Heinz Guderian and Albert Kesselring to come from non-aristocratic backgrounds.

    The Army, Heer officer corps would still be largely dominated by Prussian nobility, such as Erich von Manstein. They also formed the core of the July 20th 1944 assassination plot against Hitler led by Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg. Whereas the senior ranks of Waffen SS, headed by Heinrich Himmler, would be mostly middle class. Precisely because of this, it was feared had the plot succeeded, that there would be civil war between the Wehrmacht and SS.

    Rather than the term Herrenrasse „master race“, Hitler used the term Herrenvolk „master people“ or „master nation“.

    In Nietzsche’s Zur Genealogie der Moral, there was „Die Eroberer- und Herren Rasse“, which is sometimes translated to “the conquering master race“. But to be precise, should be translated to the somewhat softer sounding “the conqueror-race of masters**

    **Herren here is in the genitive plural case, “of Masters“ or “of Lords”. As in Der du Herr aller Herren bist, “You who are the Lord of all Lords“ in Martin Luther’s hymn “Keep us, Lord, faithful to your word”

  132. @Polistra


    the NAACP reports that 3,446 blacks were lynched in all of U.S. history.
     
    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we'll never know. How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?

    FBI statistics report that blacks were 55.9 percent of the known murder offenders
     
    And probably at least 90 percent of the 'snitches/stitches' unknown offenders.

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
     
    Thanks for repeating the Theodore Dalrymple quote. It always bears repeating. Worthy of Orwell!

    Now, with billions more Africans on the way, will someone tell me where the remaining white people are supposed to go?

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Peter Sellers, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D, @Anon, @Almost Missouri, @Alfa158, @anonymouseperson

    There will be nowhere for them to go. Once blacks turn Europe into Africa there will be no good place for anybody. The whole world will be an equal shithole.

    But it will be equal. That’s the ‘good’ news.

  133. @byrresheim
    @El Dato

    When, around two thirds through the thirty years war, German high aristocracy, traitors to a man, finally understood that even for them life had become a bit too risky and, even worse, a bit too expensive (ordinary people, including the lower rungs of the aristocracy saw their numbers shrink between 30 and 80 % from 1618 to 1648, depending on the region, with many dying in an incredibly unpleasant way), it still took them around 10 years to wind the whole thing down, and arguably in some regions of Germany the killing only ended a generation later.

    In fewer words: don't hold your breath.

    Replies: @John Up North

    Any idea of the final death toll broken down by Catholic/Protestant ethnic Germans?

  134. @Sick of Orcs
    When a business hires a black person it screws itself twice.

    First, odds are excellent someone more qualified was turned away.

    Second, the company now has a 'racism grenade' on its hands, likely to explode at slights real or imagined; black employees will be held to lower standards and criticism of performance will go unsaid due to the aforementioned grenade.

    All this is tolerated for the sake of earning virtue-signaling diversity points which may or may not satisfy woketards.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    “for the sake of earning virtue-signaling diversity points which may or may not satisfy woketards”.

    That and a quarter will buy them a cup of coffee.

  135. @Stealth
    We might not need them, but there are plenty of white people who want them. White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining at a chain restaurant at the mall on a Friday night I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.

    Sometimes I half jokingly wonder to myself if some teenage girls have jumped on the LGBT train as a way to avoid having to participate in this other craze that has gripped their peers.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @The Wild Geese Howard, @AnotherDad

    I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.

    In my area, there are now noticeable numbers of Juan/Kumar/Chang + wf pairings whenever I go out.

  136. HA says:
    @Jack D
    @HA

    If he was anything like George Floyd (and he probably was) then it was probably true. Alonzo Mann thought it was true and he was in a position to know:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/08/us/after-69-years-of-silence-lynching-victim-is-cleared.html

    Of course by 2021 woke standards what Rosser said is shockingly "racist" and would never be used as a defense today (at least not in those words) this does not negate the distinct possibility that it was God's honest truth. It's just that in 2021, black people are royal and you are not allowed to point out their faults in such stark terms even if they are true. Truth is not a defense to the crime of lese majeste.

    To be honest, if Frank were on trial today, his defense lawyer would also try to impeach the character and credibility of the prosecution witnesses. He wouldn't put it in those exact words but he would still try to get that same message across to the jury.

    As I said before, what is mind blowing (to those who do not understand the dynamics of Atlanta 1913) is that the NY Jewish guy (or at least his lawyer) is cast in the role of the "racist" and the Southern prosecutor and all white Southern jury find the black guy to be more credible. But I already gave you the explanation - like any tribal society, their world was seen in concentric circles of kinship - " I against my brother. I and my brother against my cousin. I, my brother, and my cousin against the stranger." This is why Sunni and Shia can hate each other's guts but temporarily get together for the purpose of killing Americans or Jews. (Notice that truth has nothing to do with it - it's all who/whom.) In the context of this trial, Frank was the "stranger" and Conley was the "cousin". If Conley had been accused of another rape the next week and there was no "stranger" to scapegoat, the prosecutor himself would have had no problem repeating Rosser's claim - it would be instantly back to the "my brother and I against my cousin" level.

    Replies: @HA

    “If he was anything like George Floyd (and he probably was) then it was probably true.”

    Probable or not, with language like that, it is definitely predicated on racism which is what you were disputing. We’re talking “de facto” and “flagrante delicto”. Black and white, even.

    “Alonzo Mann thought it was true and he was in a position to know”

    He claimed, decades later, that when he was a 14 year old boy working at the factory, he saw Conley carrying the limp form of Phagan away, which is as consistent with Conley’s claim that Frank enlisted him to get rid of the body as it is with the claim that Conley himself killed her. Yes, Conley did, according to Mann, say he’d kill him if he told anyone about what he saw, but again, that is completely consistent with either scenario.

    I’m not saying it’s certain Frank killed her (though based on the jury transcripts, there seems to be general agreement that he was a Harvey Weinstein type who preyed on his young female employees). But if you’re going to try and pass off Mann’s testimony as an exoneration, that just tells me the overall case for exonerating him is weak.

  137. @Stealth
    We might not need them, but there are plenty of white people who want them. White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining at a chain restaurant at the mall on a Friday night I noticed that not only were bm/wf couples common, they constituted the majority of young couples I saw. Our young women seem to have completely surrendered. Almost all of the black guys in these pairings were depressingly typical.

    Sometimes I half jokingly wonder to myself if some teenage girls have jumped on the LGBT train as a way to avoid having to participate in this other craze that has gripped their peers.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @The Wild Geese Howard, @AnotherDad

    White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining ….

    I hear these stories. And obviously, a lot of white women have absorbed the minoritarian propaganda and are suitably narrative compliant.

    Yet i’m in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal–not a big “racist” like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men. What i’ve gotten from them and even more their friends is a negative vibe about black men. I think every woman in America–size is no obstacle!–has been approached by black men with their head bobbing “hey baby” shtick and most women’s reaction is “yuck”. Propaganda be damned–pass.

    I think there is a subset of women who are either
    a) are extremely susceptible to propaganda or
    b) are more attracted to certain “animalistic” aspects that black men work for them
    or both.

    But clearly there is a big problem with the behavior of white women and with generally getting young men and women together for marriage and family.

    Broken record–but minoritarianism, immigrationism are national and civilizational wrecking balls.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @AnotherDad

    Things have changed a lot. There's been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it's been common for a long time now. A lot of people will tell you it's not as prevalent as you think, or that only fat, ugly, stupid, trashy, etc. white women are into black men. I tell them they should get out more.

    I often wonder how many of them do it because they were too intimidated to say no.

    Replies: @vhrm, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Sick of Orcs

    , @anon
    @AnotherDad

    Yet i’m in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal–not a big “racist” like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Selection_bias

    Plus why aren't they already married with 5 baybees each? That's your preaching online. Are you just not so brave with girls in person as you are with anons online?


    lol.

  138. S says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Agree with most of what you're saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently "for everyone". And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn't "baked in". Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what's going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And--as i've pointed out repeatedly and is obvious--WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    "Everyone should behave like a WASP."

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! ... stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don't cause trouble, speak respectfully ... act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.


    No this--celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms--comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks--their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, "racism!"--has been the cudgel Jews--leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment--have used to "J'accuse" American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is ... obvious. Because the narrative isn't even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there's some sort of racist miasma--pretty much identical to the "anti-Semitism" miasma--that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff ... but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity--plenty of Christians--would say "you should be fair to all people" or "racism is wrong". (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll ... compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It's not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that's Judaism.


    Steve is right:


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     
    This is novel. No nation, civilization--not even Christian ones--holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs--competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization--no exception.) It's national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @S, @vhrm, @S

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Yes, and folks tried to warn about this, such as in the 1907 book linked below, The Negro A Menace to American Civilization, which describes in gory detail some of the Black on White murders/rape/ general mayhem, which was taking place then.

    Well before that there was the 1851 book, Negro-mania, and the specific incident described below that the writer had personally observed in Philadelphia amongst some early ‘progressives’* which prompted him to write his book.

    Negro-mania (1851) – pg 4 & 5

    ..Mr. Johnson, a mulatto, lectured in
    the Franklin Hall,
    upon the same subject; the portions taken by Mr. Johnson were, that the ancient Egyptians were negroes, and that they were the originators of the arts and sciences. The discussion and lectures were carried on in the Franklin Hall, and were attended by about nine hundred or one thousand persons. The only lectures which were not free to criticism were Mr. Johnson’s.

    * ‘Progressives’ were around in the mid 19th century and called themselves by that name.

    https://archive.org/details/negromenacetoame00shuf/page/n3/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/negromaniabeinge00camp/page/4/mode/2up

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @S

    1851?? Well that certainly is eye-opening. Thanks.

  139. @Jack D

    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Matthew 20:16

    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
     
    Matthew 19:24

    The idea that the poor are morally elevated by their very poverty is deeply rooted in Christianity. It's part of what helped sell the religion because there are a lot more poor people than rich ones and so if you are trying to design a religion with the broadest possible appeal you want to say things that are appealing to the poor masses.

    Of course Christianity is not just one thing. There have been different versions of Christianity that emphasize success rather than failure. And what we have now is a post-Christian, distorted version of Christianity without God where certain selected Christian teachings have had their meanings stretched beyond all recognition and other teachings have been completely discarded. But, the impulse to assign moral worth to poverty is a very old one.

    There are a number of problems with importing Igbos in order to provide us with more competent blacks.

    First of all, it's not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

    2nd, while some are smart, they seem to be equally attracted to criminality as American blacks , but instead of holding up the Quickie Mart they are committing Medicaid fraud - it's not clear that this is an improvement. Perhaps less violent but the dollar amounts involved (therefore the damage they cause to society) are greater.

    Third, Igbos do not replace the American black underclass. Making Ikembe the principal of your local public school does not change the fact that there are 500 IQ85 Dyshauns and Tyshauna enrolled who are going to be dead weight in any technological society even before they go thru the wringer of dysfunctional ghetto culture.

    4th, the ghetto gangster culture has tremendous appeal - even some lower class whites and Asians imitate it. The most natural thing for the sons and daughters of African immigrants to do is to assimilate into African American culture and breed with (the much larger #) of low IQ African Americans. So whatever positive contribution they make to bringing up AA IQ (and culture) disappears after a generation or too as they dissolve into the masses. 50 years from now - "Oh yeah, I heard that my great grandpa was from Nigeria but I don't know nuffin about that."

    Replies: @bomag, @AnotherDad, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    First of all, it’s not clear how many super smart Igbos there are.

    As in top recruit at Huawei? not many, but probably not zero.
    I’ve commented before on their human capital.

    I didn’t say black geniuses. I used specifically Igbo/Nigerian as example of a subgroup that can have reasonable number of IQ > 130. And I did so specifically because unlike mulattos/Caribbean they have minimal white admixture.
    125 IQ is enough for MD/JD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Job_performance
    130-140 IQ is average at elite STEM programs, NOT superstar Fields Medallists, its about consistent with this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_Americans#Science_and_engineering

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-making-sure-robots-arent-racist/#comment-4532997

    Let’s say for sake of argument Koreans and Nigerian Americans have the same IQ, the former is applied to the entire race, whereas latter is an elite endogamous slice similar to Indian upper castes.
    There are less than a million Nigerian Americans, if you grow to 10 million have your own independent state, then in theory you can build an industrialized state/Wakanda.
    But US Nigerians are only succeeding in US/UK institutions, usually have no intention to return home, and on average have fewer than 1.5 kids each.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-coming-igbo-surge/#comment-4566456

    On 2) and 4) I’m not terribly concerned. Igbos and Yorubas tend to assimilate well into middle-class norms.

    But this is not an endorsement for Steve’s idea. I’m not sure that Steve’s Most Important Graph will be solved by bringing more African elites here.

  140. @David In TN
    @MEH 0910

    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare "Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!"

    A prime example was the 2007 Christian-Newsom torture-murders in Knoxville Tennessee. The local DA's office, the elected District Attorney General and his chief spokesman especially, practically gave the "ringleader" the defense his attorneys used of trashing the victims.

    My friend Nicholas Stix wrote more about this case than anyone with the exception of the local crime reporter. I assisted him.

    Replies: @Lurker, @MEH 0910

    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare “Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!”

    Just as bad is when the victim’s family/friends say the same and plead that no one make it about race, politicise it etc. When the reverse happens we meekly accept that race is the crucial factor, that the narrative will be politicised.

  141. @Anonymouse
    >Because (((they))) say so.

    As I understand the conventions of replying on Unz.com columns, 2 left and right parenthesis surrounding a name indicates a Jew. Further, that the author of that curious custom believes and knows that a Jew is not an autonomous individual with opinions of his own but rather implementing a genetically inherited program outlined in his holy book to enslave the rest of the world. As this is a fantasy propogated by some commenters here, I suggest they and others should surround their names with 2 left and right curly brackets (e.g. {{Smith}}) with a view of outing them and themselves so we can identify them and treat them with the kindness rightly due to lunatics.

    Replies: @vhrm

    As I understand the conventions of replying on Unz.com columns, 2 left and right parenthesis surrounding a name indicates a Jew.

    there are four lights (1)

    and three parentheses:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses


    1) a quite ambiguous ending that one

  142. @stillCARealist
    @Almost Missouri

    I wonder what it's like to live in a poor, black community and realize that there are murderers in your midst. Uncaught and unrepentant. It would never occur to me to look at my neighbors and friends and think, "That old Harry, he likely killed someone back in the 90's."

    Is there some sort of life perspective that they find enjoyable from this? Maybe the excitement is something I can't understand; it may truly be a black thing. (remember that? It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand!)

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Buffalo Joe

    There must literally be thousands, tens of thousands, of blacks walking around places like Chicago’s south side who have shot or killed somebody and it went unknown or unpunished. What a strange world that would be to inhabit. As a boy growing up there was one older teenager who lived several blocks from us who had almost killed another teenager and had done a few years for it. We were all told to avoid him like the plague. And we did.

  143. @David In TN
    @MEH 0910

    Whenever a horrific black on white murder takes place, the media, law enforcement, etc. in unison declare "Race was not a factor! There is no evidence race had anything to do with it!"

    A prime example was the 2007 Christian-Newsom torture-murders in Knoxville Tennessee. The local DA's office, the elected District Attorney General and his chief spokesman especially, practically gave the "ringleader" the defense his attorneys used of trashing the victims.

    My friend Nicholas Stix wrote more about this case than anyone with the exception of the local crime reporter. I assisted him.

    Replies: @Lurker, @MEH 0910

    Paul Kersey does a good job covering black on white murder.

    https://www.unz.com/author/paul-kersey/

  144. @AnotherDad
    @Stealth


    White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining ....
     
    I hear these stories. And obviously, a lot of white women have absorbed the minoritarian propaganda and are suitably narrative compliant.

    Yet i'm in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal--not a big "racist" like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men. What i've gotten from them and even more their friends is a negative vibe about black men. I think every woman in America--size is no obstacle!--has been approached by black men with their head bobbing "hey baby" shtick and most women's reaction is "yuck". Propaganda be damned--pass.

    I think there is a subset of women who are either
    a) are extremely susceptible to propaganda or
    b) are more attracted to certain "animalistic" aspects that black men work for them
    or both.


    But clearly there is a big problem with the behavior of white women and with generally getting young men and women together for marriage and family.

    Broken record--but minoritarianism, immigrationism are national and civilizational wrecking balls.

    Replies: @Stealth, @anon

    Things have changed a lot. There’s been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it’s been common for a long time now. A lot of people will tell you it’s not as prevalent as you think, or that only fat, ugly, stupid, trashy, etc. white women are into black men. I tell them they should get out more.

    I often wonder how many of them do it because they were too intimidated to say no.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Stealth

    Maybe in your area it's true, but in three areas in the US i've been over the past year, two of which have significant though minority black populations, i didn't notice anything like that... and i think i would have since it's relatively unusual.

    Replies: @Stealth

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Stealth


    I tell them they should get out more.
     
    Right?

    In these parts we have the bonus of all the White single moms in the online scene looking for some simp to pay the bills for their mocha kid.

    Yeah, no.

    , @Sick of Orcs
    @Stealth

    If you know any White women considering "dating" orcs, show them this, then explain, "Heed this warning or end up like the suitcase."

    https://youtu.be/Q5sEIWlQO7A

  145. @Peter Sellers
    @Polistra

    Cry more snowflake

    Imagine having all the wealth and property handed to you on a silver platter and terrorizing People of Color and then getting upset when called on it.

    Can’t handle the truth huh?

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Charon, @anon

  146. @Stealth
    @AnotherDad

    Things have changed a lot. There's been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it's been common for a long time now. A lot of people will tell you it's not as prevalent as you think, or that only fat, ugly, stupid, trashy, etc. white women are into black men. I tell them they should get out more.

    I often wonder how many of them do it because they were too intimidated to say no.

    Replies: @vhrm, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Sick of Orcs

    Maybe in your area it’s true, but in three areas in the US i’ve been over the past year, two of which have significant though minority black populations, i didn’t notice anything like that… and i think i would have since it’s relatively unusual.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @vhrm

    You might need to get out more.

    Replies: @vhrm

  147. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Agree with most of what you're saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently "for everyone". And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn't "baked in". Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what's going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And--as i've pointed out repeatedly and is obvious--WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    "Everyone should behave like a WASP."

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! ... stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don't cause trouble, speak respectfully ... act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.


    No this--celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms--comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks--their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, "racism!"--has been the cudgel Jews--leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment--have used to "J'accuse" American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is ... obvious. Because the narrative isn't even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there's some sort of racist miasma--pretty much identical to the "anti-Semitism" miasma--that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff ... but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity--plenty of Christians--would say "you should be fair to all people" or "racism is wrong". (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll ... compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It's not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that's Judaism.


    Steve is right:


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     
    This is novel. No nation, civilization--not even Christian ones--holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs--competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization--no exception.) It's national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @S, @vhrm, @S

    But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian,

    Well, Jesus was the leader of an upstart religion in a far flung province who was executed by the Roman empire for rabble rousing. The Christians of the bible were definitely a small persecuted people and it absolutely exalts the downtrodden as Jack D pointed out.

    Certainly Christianity then went on to be a continents wide only religion for about 1500 years, trouncing all that came before it, but the basic teachings still emphasize humility, subservience to God (and Caesar) etc and afaik Christianity as taught and practiced generally ignores the part about how it is and has been the dominant force and, even in Catholicism, spends a lot of time with scripture.

    If one reads Atlas Shrugged and has an aversion to the celebration of and exhortation to enlightened self-interest, and the absolute vilification of “self-sacrifice”. i think that’s in reaction to a Christian baseline that inculcates self-abasement and self-sacrifice.

    I’m agnostic on the degree to which jews (or more precisely _some_ jews) use blacks to destabilize WASPs so that said WASPs won’t mess w/ the jews. To some degree it’s a normal guerilla tactic, right?

    The US did it to the USSR by supporting muhajadeen in Afghanistan.
    The USSR did it to the US by supporting Cuba.
    China is doing it to the West and Japan by supporting North Korea
    Russia is doing it to the West with its handful of frozen conflicts and puppet states in Eastern Europe.
    etc. etc.

    Also, if i were in a 2% of the population pseudo-minority i certainly wouldn’t encourage the majority to be ultra-racist and nationalistic.
    Which brings us around to the question: how much do the woke REALLY want to convince whites that they have a shared identity and group interests? To me it seems relatively insane to do so considering how much time and effort the US and liberals have invested into universalism.

    By pushing and pulling they are going to create (or resurrect) the very racism that they imagine exists but has really been in decline for 100 years and mostly dead for about the past 40.

  148. @Goingblankagain

    increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa
     
    My general impression is that African-Africans hold opinions about African Americans that make your average iSteve reader look like Ibram X Kendi.

    Tangentially related, but what's the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd's death declare bankruptcy?

    I'm going 3.5 years.

    Replies: @bruce county, @William Badwhite, @Spect3r

    Tangentially related, but what’s the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd’s death declare bankruptcy?

    Following the adventures of the Floyd family and seeing what happens to that $27mm would make a fantastic reality TV show.

  149. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Stealth


    White women under the age of thirty can’t seem to get enough of black men, for instance. I live in an area that is mostly white, and while dining ....
     
    I hear these stories. And obviously, a lot of white women have absorbed the minoritarian propaganda and are suitably narrative compliant.

    Yet i'm in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal--not a big "racist" like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men. What i've gotten from them and even more their friends is a negative vibe about black men. I think every woman in America--size is no obstacle!--has been approached by black men with their head bobbing "hey baby" shtick and most women's reaction is "yuck". Propaganda be damned--pass.

    I think there is a subset of women who are either
    a) are extremely susceptible to propaganda or
    b) are more attracted to certain "animalistic" aspects that black men work for them
    or both.


    But clearly there is a big problem with the behavior of white women and with generally getting young men and women together for marriage and family.

    Broken record--but minoritarianism, immigrationism are national and civilizational wrecking balls.

    Replies: @Stealth, @anon

    Yet i’m in a house here with a couple of under 30 white women. And they are intelligent and attractive but otherwise pretty normal–not a big “racist” like me. Yet there is zero interest in black men.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Selection_bias

    Plus why aren’t they already married with 5 baybees each? That’s your preaching online. Are you just not so brave with girls in person as you are with anons online?

    lol.

  150. @PiltdownMan
    @Polistra


    How many whites were lynched during the same period, by the way?


     

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”

    Replies: @Barnard, @William Badwhite

    “Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites and 3,446 lynchings of black people.”

    “Project Hal”

    You can download the spreadsheet here:

    http://people.uncw.edu/hinese/HAL/HAL%20Web%20Page.htm

    Apologies if the hotlink doesn’t work.

    • Thanks: PiltdownMan
  151. @Jack D
    @Polistra


    The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
     
    Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.


    And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
     
    This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite

    What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.

    When the “legal process” is non-existent, crime eventually gets punished some other way. This is something those pushing the current trend to decriminalize violent crime should bear in mind. They are pushing (w/o realizing it) for vigilantism and a vendetta culture.

    People will cede their right to retribution to the state (as you know this is why criminal cases are Pennsylvania vs. Jack D as opposed to Crime Victim’s Family vs. Jack D – it is the State maintaining its monopoly on violence) only so long as the state actually seeks that retribution.

    When criminals are allowed to commit their crimes with impunity (as was the case in much of the Reconstruction Era South), eventually people reclaim their right to retribution, as happened during the lynching era.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @William Badwhite

    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era? I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails, which indicates that the legal process was already under way. They just wanted to speed up matters or did not trust juries to agree with them.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  152. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    The lockdowns were a key factor in the summer of Floyd.

    BLM riots following the shooting of Michael Brown in 2014 occurred in just 2 cities. Only a few BLM protests happened in 2014. While in 2020 we had thousands of protests and 600 riots since protesting was the only social activity permitted during the COVID Clampdown. Millions of Americans protested in 2020 because they had nothing else they could do. With millions out of work, schools, churches and arenas closed the protests were the only outlet for social interactions last summer. Without the lockdowns the rioting would have remained isolated to Minneapolis.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Buffalo Joe

    I hear you, Pizzaro, but the driving force of the riots last year was the democratic party. Democrats funded, sponsored, and enabled riots in every way possible. They did it to de-stabilize the country during an election year to give them a better chance of winning. It worked.
    The role that Democrat donors and politicians played in manufacturing these riots is one of the worst acts of treason in our history.
    It was intended to whip up a firestorm of panic and hate. It was an attack on calm, on deliberation, on thinking. Clear thinking is the precondition and starting point for any decency, morality, or justice we will ever have. The democratic party crossed the Rubicon last year and joined the ranks of history’s worst political thugs.

  153. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, the law exists to protect criminals as well as to protect the public. If the state abdicates its responsibility to punish criminals then the public will take the law into its own hands. This is the norm in countries with weak or non-existent police forces. (You can go on various ‘gore’ websites on the internet to see how criminals are dealt with in such places. It’s not pretty.)

    Regarding the Frank affair, I understand it’s the custom for Jews to consume alcohol on Saturday mornings (Kiddush). Was Frank inebriated when he went into the factory that day?

  154. “The Future of Floydism” sets a new national record for the highest number of true but publicly forbidden statements in the smallest number or words.

  155. @Stealth
    @AnotherDad

    Things have changed a lot. There's been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it's been common for a long time now. A lot of people will tell you it's not as prevalent as you think, or that only fat, ugly, stupid, trashy, etc. white women are into black men. I tell them they should get out more.

    I often wonder how many of them do it because they were too intimidated to say no.

    Replies: @vhrm, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Sick of Orcs

    I tell them they should get out more.

    Right?

    In these parts we have the bonus of all the White single moms in the online scene looking for some simp to pay the bills for their mocha kid.

    Yeah, no.

  156. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    The lockdowns were a key factor in the summer of Floyd.

    BLM riots following the shooting of Michael Brown in 2014 occurred in just 2 cities. Only a few BLM protests happened in 2014. While in 2020 we had thousands of protests and 600 riots since protesting was the only social activity permitted during the COVID Clampdown. Millions of Americans protested in 2020 because they had nothing else they could do. With millions out of work, schools, churches and arenas closed the protests were the only outlet for social interactions last summer. Without the lockdowns the rioting would have remained isolated to Minneapolis.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Buffalo Joe

    Hern, after mike brown was shot we were fed a constant narrative of “hands up, don’t shoot” even though obama’s DOJ said brown did not have his hands up and did not say don’t shoot. All that led to kneeling during the National Anthem and the start on the slippery slope we are now careening down.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe

    It's almost as if all of BLM was built on a tissue of lies.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  157. @Tim
    Totally OT, but the news keeps repeating that Kristin Clark is the "first woman of color to head the DOJ Civil Rights Division".

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vanita Gupta was the first woman of color to head that division, right?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Tim, to paraphrase bill clinton…”depends on what your definition of color is.” The color du jour is black. VP harris is black. obama is black. valerie jarret is black. Dots don’t count.

  158. @Stealth
    @AnotherDad

    Things have changed a lot. There's been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it's been common for a long time now. A lot of people will tell you it's not as prevalent as you think, or that only fat, ugly, stupid, trashy, etc. white women are into black men. I tell them they should get out more.

    I often wonder how many of them do it because they were too intimidated to say no.

    Replies: @vhrm, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Sick of Orcs

    If you know any White women considering “dating” orcs, show them this, then explain, “Heed this warning or end up like the suitcase.”

  159. @stillCARealist
    @Almost Missouri

    I wonder what it's like to live in a poor, black community and realize that there are murderers in your midst. Uncaught and unrepentant. It would never occur to me to look at my neighbors and friends and think, "That old Harry, he likely killed someone back in the 90's."

    Is there some sort of life perspective that they find enjoyable from this? Maybe the excitement is something I can't understand; it may truly be a black thing. (remember that? It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand!)

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Buffalo Joe

    still CA, I always find it strange that the mothers of slain young blacks seem to wear their loss like a badge of honor, almost like a “Gold Star” mother. Amd numerous interviews with black athletes mention the fact that a close family member or two or three were shot and killed. If it weighed down on them then they would work on ending it, and I don’t mean the platitudes of ‘violence interuptors.’

  160. Perhaps the people who know how to run large organizations realize, deep down, despite all their press releases to the contrary, that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there ready to take over after a little training.

    Yes, they do. For example, see Intel:

    https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/closing-out-decade-corporate-responsibility-accomplishments-creating-greater-impact-next-decade/

    We reached full representation3 in our U.S. workforce for women and underrepresented minorities two years ahead of schedule as well as global gender pay equity.

    The devil is in the detail; or, specifically in footnote 3:

    3Full representation means that Intel’s workforce now reflects the percentage of women and URMs available in the U.S. skilled labor market.

    In other words, they calibrate their numbers not against Census returns, but against a measure of suitably qualified people. They are meeting their targets, and because the recruits are suitably skilled, presumably they contribute positively to the bottom line, and are not what we would consider “diversity hires”. AMD and other companies use a similar formula to Intel’s. This is the most that a sane person can expect any high-tech company to do.

    So yes, they know perfectly well that there are not vast pools of untapped African-American talent out there, and they are doing the best they can to deal proportionately with the talent that really exists.

    How long they can get away with this before they are required by the Feds to hire 15% African-Americans is anybody’s guess.

  161. S says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     

    So the last shall be first, and the first last:
     
    Agree with most of what you're saying here Jack. (That bringing in Africans is disaster is obvious.)

    Christianity is a universal, not a tribal religion. It is inherently "for everyone". And unlike say Hinduism it is not deeply feudal. European Christians adapted it to support the feudal order, but feudalism isn't "baked in". Christianity is naturally more egalitarian.

    But what's going on is not Christianity, it is minoritarianism.

    And--as i've pointed out repeatedly and is obvious--WASP progressivism simply did not worship blacks. The essentially ethos of WASP progressivism was:

    "Everyone should behave like a WASP."

    (I.e. all you Irish should sober up! ... stop drinking, beating your wives, deserting your kids; obey the law, keep your nose clean, study in school, hold a job, work hard, don't cause trouble, speak respectfully ... act like a proper WASP.) It was in no sense holding up minorities or resistance to assimilating to WASP norms as desirable. Much making a holy icon of black dysfunction like George Floyd.


    No this--celebrating minorities, celebrating resistance to assimilation to white American norms--comes in with the rise of the Jews, and their pushing and propagandizing minoritarianism.

    And in particularly blacks--their story in America, slavery, Jim Crow, "racism!"--has been the cudgel Jews--leftists sure, but also the broad Jewish community/establishment--have used to "J'accuse" American society, the American nation and delegitimate WASP rule and the overarching white American nation.

    This is ... obvious. Because the narrative isn't even pro-black, but is specifically anti-white. I.e. anti-white-gentile. That there's some sort of racist miasma--pretty much identical to the "anti-Semitism" miasma--that supposedly infects America (and all white nations) and must be wiped out so poor oppressed minorities can breathe free. (I.e. that white gentiles are not entitled to the basic human right to be themselves, with their own culture and enjoy their own stuff ... but must exist perpetually in some sort of minority (i.e. Jew) friendly lootable state.)

    Christianity--plenty of Christians--would say "you should be fair to all people" or "racism is wrong". (And yes, that Christian universalism/openness makes Christian nations easier to roll ... compared to say the Japanese.) But nothing in Christianity is specifically anti-majoritarian, anti-white. It's not Christianity that sports an anti-white, anti-majority ideology, that's Judaism.


    Steve is right:


    it’s so novel in human history for a culture to extol as its moral master race a group exalted for their ineptitude
     
    This is novel. No nation, civilization--not even Christian ones--holds up its hostile minority screwups as heroes. (Christian martyrs--competent heroes who defended or brought in the existing civilization--no exception.) It's national/racial self-negation.

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @S, @vhrm, @S

    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.

    Yes, and folks tried to warn about this, such as in the 1907 book linked below, The Negro A Menace to American Civilization, which describes in gory detail some of the Black on White murders/rape/ general mayhem, which was taking place then.

    Well before that there was the 1851 book, Negro-mania, and the specific incident described below that the writer had personally observed in Philadelphia amongst some early ‘progressives’* which prompted him to write his book.

    Negro-mania (1851) – pg 4 & 5

    ..Mr. Johnson, a mulatto, lectured in
    the Franklin Hall,
    upon the same subject; the portions taken by Mr. Johnson were, that the ancient Egyptians were negroes, and that they were the originators of the arts and sciences. The discussion and lectures were carried on in the Franklin Hall, and were attended by about nine hundred or one thousand persons. The only lectures which were not free to criticism were Mr. Johnson’s.

    * ‘Progressives’ were around in the mid 19th century and called themselves by that name.

    https://archive.org/details/negromenacetoame00shuf/page/n3/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/negromaniabeinge00camp/page/4/mode/2up

  162. @William Badwhite
    @Jack D


    What’s bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.
     
    When the "legal process" is non-existent, crime eventually gets punished some other way. This is something those pushing the current trend to decriminalize violent crime should bear in mind. They are pushing (w/o realizing it) for vigilantism and a vendetta culture.

    People will cede their right to retribution to the state (as you know this is why criminal cases are Pennsylvania vs. Jack D as opposed to Crime Victim's Family vs. Jack D - it is the State maintaining its monopoly on violence) only so long as the state actually seeks that retribution.

    When criminals are allowed to commit their crimes with impunity (as was the case in much of the Reconstruction Era South), eventually people reclaim their right to retribution, as happened during the lynching era.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era? I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails, which indicates that the legal process was already under way. They just wanted to speed up matters or did not trust juries to agree with them.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Jack D


    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era?
     
    Military governments focused on other things, blacks in positions of power, general postwar disorder and mayhem. There were thousands and the circumstances vary.

    I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails,
     
    You do? I thought your family didn't come here until after WW2. More likely you're cherry-picking from the few that you've read about. Go through the Project HAL spreadsheet.

    They just wanted to speed up matters
     
    Your ability to read the minds of people from 150+ years ago is impressive.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  163. @Buffalo Joe
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Hern, after mike brown was shot we were fed a constant narrative of "hands up, don't shoot" even though obama's DOJ said brown did not have his hands up and did not say don't shoot. All that led to kneeling during the National Anthem and the start on the slippery slope we are now careening down.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It’s almost as if all of BLM was built on a tissue of lies.

    • LOL: vhrm
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    It’s almost as if all of BLM was built on a tissue of lies.
     
    Did somebody say "tissue"?



    https://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/diploma-toilet-paper-for-bullshit-degrees.jpg
  164. @vhrm
    @Stealth

    Maybe in your area it's true, but in three areas in the US i've been over the past year, two of which have significant though minority black populations, i didn't notice anything like that... and i think i would have since it's relatively unusual.

    Replies: @Stealth

    You might need to get out more.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Stealth

    I was inviting you to perhaps provide some context or expansion on your claims, because i think it would be interesting if true. In the areas i've been it's been the same as it has been for as long as i've remember it: few black man - white woman couples and in those couples the women have tended to be unattractive more often than not and almost always considerably overweight or obese.

    However, to be more direct, while it is quite possible that what you observed is true in your area, my guess is more that you're pushing a "the kids these days" doom and gloom story based on limited to very limited observations and possibly driven by some black pill ideology or motivation.

    Your credibility as an insightful recorder of such things is called into question when you say that:
    "There’s been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it’s been common for a long time now"

    First of all it has not been "common" "for a long time" any place that i know (not that i'm expert in such things) except on the Kardashians. Also in commercials but just for a few years.
    But if it had really been common, what is an "enormous surge" in something that is already common? That would imply it's become beyond common. A majority of cases perhaps?

    And yet somehow all the people who have commented here in the threads about how fantastical the casting in commercials and other media is have just missed that it's actually reflective of the real world?

    Seems unlikely.

  165. The one rational step that American elites could take to meet the demand that they’ve stoked for black leaders is to increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa …

    How importing the heirs of African slave sellers will benefit the descendants of American slaves is almost as mysterious as how brain-draining Africa of what talent it has will be good for the burgeoning masses of that continent.

    We have figured out that “they” are electing a new people because they don’t much like the one they’ve got. It turns out that they are also electing a new black people, and for similar reasons.

    The danger of politicizing any statistic is that people find perverse ways to hit their target. In this case the target is for the proportion of professional jobs held by black people to reflect their demographic strength, i.e about 15% of the US population. The supposed purpose is to help African Americans succeed, overcome racism, and so on. Yet a large part of the progress towards the goal will benefit Nigerians, not African Americans. The black underclass will remain left behind.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @James N. Kennett

    I first noticed this many years ago when reviewing the faculty of some Southern college or university whose name now escapes me. It was full of Indians.

    It was immediately obvious what had happened: the government had put pressure on this institution to employ more non-whites in academic posts, assuming - it being the South - that the jobs would go to blacks. The college sidestepped this by hiring Indians.

  166. @AceDeuce
    @Polistra

    Social historian J.C. Furnas, an old-school Harvard -educated liberal, BTW, once estimated that just a quick, cursory examination of lynching cases indicated that at least 2/3 to 3/4 were in all probability guilty, which doesn't mean the rest were innocent I'm sure some mistakes may have been made, and that's tragic. I'm sure the vast majority were deserving of their fate.

    An lynchings were usually only for rape and/or murder. You didn't get lynched for overdue library books.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Also, the motive for lynchings was usually the same sort of thing that would motivate blacks to kill each other if the occasion arose. Blacks kill each other for the most absurdly trivial reasons. But they do it in a different way. They’d never organise a posse of people to abduct someone and transport him a few miles to hang him from a tree. More likely, they’d drive past him when he’s in a group of people and spray him with gunfire.

  167. @Barnard
    @PiltdownMan

    The Tuskegee Institute has updated those classifications mostly in an effort to help the flight from white. They now include categories for Chinese, Latinx, Native American, Italian and Other, which is mostly still whites. Of course, nearly everyone in the Latinx and Italian categories would have been considered white at the time.

    They are also trying to greatly expand the definition of lynching far beyond what Monroe Work used when putting together the data at Tuskegee. They are including what are described as ordinary murder that were not mob action and also several incidents where blacks were killed in police custody when police claimed the inmate attempted to fight, grab a weapon, etc. The fact that more blacks are killed each year by other blacks than they had for deaths in their 100 plus year lynching database must have been getting to them. So in response, they went looking for anything they could add to their database no matter how absurd it is to classify it as a lynching.

    https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Legally, lynching is extrajudicial mob violence against a person or persons–it doesn’t mean that the victim was killed.

  168. @Alfa158
    @Polistra

    I think it’s been made pretty clear that the remaining White people are supposed to go into extinction through low fertility, inter-breeding, murder and marginalization. After decades of trying equal opportunities, affirmative action, civil rights, welfare transfers and now equity, it has become obvious those measures will never close the gap with Whites. That can never be acceptable so the next measure is to reduce Whites to an insignificant portion of all populations. By simple logic if there are no Whites, then there can be no gap with them. Problem solved.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Exactly. White fertility has been falling for decades. White deaths have exceeded white births since 2012. The 2020 census will be the first census to show an absolute decline in the number of White Americans. The decline in the number of whites is about to accelerate rapidly as the boomers turn 75. Over the next decade 26 million whites will pass away and just 17 million whites will be born.

  169. Recall that wealthy whites have bet tens of billions on the further gentrification of urban frontiers in places like Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and Oakland.

    Two of which have Congressional representation. The whitening of DC is the most convenient argument in the current environment with which to block statehood, because with a white majority it’s all about partisanship rather than about race.

    So if gentrification stalls, we may have to dig up another way.

  170. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe

    It's almost as if all of BLM was built on a tissue of lies.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s almost as if all of BLM was built on a tissue of lies.

    Did somebody say “tissue”?

  171. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Agree. When you're blowing stuff up all over ... you can easily blow up the wrong stuff.

    An example: the Soviets shot down the KAL 007 747 thinking it was an American spy plane, but mostly not being very careful about identification.

    The US made a big stink about it... then five years later shot down an Iranian airliner by not being very careful about identification.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    An example: the Soviets shot down the KAL 007 747 thinking it was an American spy plane, but mostly not being very careful about identification.

    Gennadi Osipovich held up his thick hands to show how, 13 years ago, he maneuvered his SU-15 fighter to blast a Korean 747 airliner out of the sky.

    It was the morning of Sept. 1, 1983, and Lieut. Col. Gennadi Osipovich’s unit had scrambled from its secret base on Sakhalin Island to intercept an intruder. After trailing the unidentified plane for more than 60 miles, the Soviet pilot zoomed alongside to get a look for himself.

    ”I was just next to him, on the same altitude, 150 meters to 200 meters away,” he recalled in conversations with a reporter this weekend.

    From the flashing lights and the configuration of the windows, he recognized the aircraft as a civilian type of plane, he said.

    ”I saw two rows of windows and knew that this was a Boeing,” he said. ”I knew this was a civilian plane. But for me this meant nothing. It is easy to turn a civilian type of plane into one for military use.”

    Minutes later, he fired two air-to-air missiles, sending Korean Air Lines Flight 007 crashing into the sea, killing 269 people and causing what President Boris N. Yeltsin has called the greatest tragedy of the cold war.

    For years, experts have debated whether the Soviet pilot was aware he was downing a civilian plane or had mistaken the 747 for an RC-135 American military reconnaissance plane.

    But Colonel Osipovich says he knew he had no doubts that he was dealing with a civilian plane and not an RC-135. Viewed through the prism of the cold war, the pilot treated the plane not as a lost commercial airliner, but as part of a nefarious mission against the Soviet homeland.

    Colonel Osipovich also disclosed that in the pressure of the moment, he did not provide a full-description of the intruder to Soviet ground controllers.

    ”I did not tell the ground that it was a Boeing-type plane,” he recalled. ”They did not ask me.”

    He did, however, tell Soviet ground controllers that the plane had blinking lights on, which he says was an indication that it could be a transport plane.

    Colonel Osipovich was directed toward the intruder and intercepted the plane about 95 miles from Soviet airspace. He maneuvered behind the plane and from a distance of 13 kilometers, nearly 8 miles, soon had him in his sights.

    ”It was huge,” he said. ”I saw everything, including the blinking lights on top and bottom.”

    His first thought was that it was a Soviet transport plane being used to test the readiness of the air defense forces.

    ”I thought it was some kind of inspection because never before had I seen foreign planes fly with those blinking lights,” he said. While American intelligence planes commonly flew along the Soviet periphery, Western commercial airlines never came close to the heavily militarized Soviet region, flying their passenger routes hundreds of miles away.

    ”I asked the ground what to do,” he said. ”They got scared and told me to force him to land, and this was our big mistake.”

    Zooming to his target, Colonel Osipovoich pulled his SU-15 jet alongside the lumbering 747 at an altitude of about 34,000 feet. The 747’s double row of windows were visible, he said.

    Making a maneuver Russian pilots called the ”snake,” he descended and pulled behind the intruder. He fired two missiles.

    ”Thank god, they hit,” he recalled.

    When KAL 007 was shot down, it was only 20 to 25 seconds from reaching neutral territory, he said, which would have prevented the shootdown.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/09/world/ex-soviet-pilot-still-insists-kal-007-was-spying.html

  172. white fertility will fall even further as family formation becomes ever more unaffordable due to the growing need to escape crime and bad schools.

    The growing need to escape the damage caused by colossal government.

  173. But that would then heighten perhaps the single greatest threat to the Western world: that whites won’t find the moral backbone to keep out the booming billions of rapidly growing Africans.

    Vilfredo Pareto, writing in 1902:

    When a living creature loses the sentiments which, in given circumstances are necessary to it in order to maintain the struggle for life, this is a certain sign of degeneration, for the absence of these sentiments will, sooner or later, entail the extinction of the species. The living creature which shrinks from giving blow for blow and from shedding its adversary’s blood thereby puts itself at the mercy of this adversary. The sheep has always found a wolf to devour it; if it now escapes this peril, it is only because man reserves it for his own prey. Any people which has horror of blood to the point of not knowing how to defend itself will sooner or later become the prey of some bellicose people or other. There is not perhaps on this globe a single foot of ground which has not been conquered by the sword at one time or other, and where the people occupying it have not maintained themselves on it by force. If the Negroes were stronger than the Europeans, Europe would be partitioned by the Africans and not Africa by the Europeans.

    And now, in our century, we may see Europe and the European nations conquered by Africans.

    • Thanks: Polistra
  174. Instead, corporations are likely to promote importing Africans with three-digit IQs as a moral necessity owing to, oh, say, climate change, slavery, redlining, Emmett Till, or whatever.

    Goldman Sachs for one is exceedingly proud of its Africa Recruiting Initiative!

  175. @Dieter Kief
    The Civil Rights Act as a major factor to stop the Baby Boom. US-blacks as on average more aggressive and less bright than whites (Charles Murray's new book soon to be out).

    PC as a tool to humiliate rational (=rather educated (=foremost white & Asian reasoning (discourse...)) via woke Stalinism.

    The dynamic spreading from the African population growth (=cf. Our World's  Most Important Graph) - in not yet quite foreseeable directions.

    The George Floyd event as something that caused all these factors/findings to intermingle in a rather destructive way. -

    - Hey Mr. Sailer: Unfortunately you did not mention CO-19 in your summary - because that could have possibly cheered us readers up a bit here!

    Replies: @ChrisZ

    The Civil Rights Act as a major factor to stop the Baby Boom…

    That struck me too, Dieter, as an amazing intuition on Steve’s part (in a column that already has an ample share of amazements).

    I’ve never heard it before, in this forum or anywhere. But I’d like to know more about it. If you’re listening, Steve, you hit on something potentially profound with this idea about the “coincidence” of the end of the (White) Baby Boom and the beginning of the (black) Civil Rights Era. Was it just a shot in the dark? Or a preview of something you have in the works?

  176. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    “The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.”

    Actually, the most common denominator in lynchings is being guilty.

  177. @Bardon Kaldian
    Floydism? Hmmm...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovBddHEtxKY

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    This Australian TV man Alan Jones talks as if he had (at least intuitively) understood Theodore Dalrymple’s thesis, quoted by Steve Sailer in his article above, that the main effect of bending the truth as it is done in the George Floyd case for example is to humiliate those who still get what’s up.

  178. vhrm says:
    @Stealth
    @vhrm

    You might need to get out more.

    Replies: @vhrm

    I was inviting you to perhaps provide some context or expansion on your claims, because i think it would be interesting if true. In the areas i’ve been it’s been the same as it has been for as long as i’ve remember it: few black man – white woman couples and in those couples the women have tended to be unattractive more often than not and almost always considerably overweight or obese.

    However, to be more direct, while it is quite possible that what you observed is true in your area, my guess is more that you’re pushing a “the kids these days” doom and gloom story based on limited to very limited observations and possibly driven by some black pill ideology or motivation.

    Your credibility as an insightful recorder of such things is called into question when you say that:
    “There’s been an enormous surge in bm/wf pairings just in the last year, but it’s been common for a long time now”

    First of all it has not been “common” “for a long time” any place that i know (not that i’m expert in such things) except on the Kardashians. Also in commercials but just for a few years.
    But if it had really been common, what is an “enormous surge” in something that is already common? That would imply it’s become beyond common. A majority of cases perhaps?

    And yet somehow all the people who have commented here in the threads about how fantastical the casting in commercials and other media is have just missed that it’s actually reflective of the real world?

    Seems unlikely.

  179. Ghetto blacks should pipe down about George Floyd. They would have killed the guy themselves eventually.

  180. @S
    @AnotherDad


    This is majority hostile minoritarianism and it is simply logically incompatible with having a nation and civilization.
     
    Yes, and folks tried to warn about this, such as in the 1907 book linked below, The Negro A Menace to American Civilization, which describes in gory detail some of the Black on White murders/rape/ general mayhem, which was taking place then.

    Well before that there was the 1851 book, Negro-mania, and the specific incident described below that the writer had personally observed in Philadelphia amongst some early 'progressives'* which prompted him to write his book.


    Negro-mania (1851) - pg 4 & 5

    ..Mr. Johnson, a mulatto, lectured in
    the Franklin Hall,
    upon the same subject; the portions taken by Mr. Johnson were, that the ancient Egyptians were negroes, and that they were the originators of the arts and sciences. The discussion and lectures were carried on in the Franklin Hall, and were attended by about nine hundred or one thousand persons. The only lectures which were not free to criticism were Mr. Johnson's.
     

    * 'Progressives' were around in the mid 19th century and called themselves by that name.


    https://archive.org/details/negromenacetoame00shuf/page/n3/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/negromaniabeinge00camp/page/4/mode/2up

    Replies: @Polistra

    1851?? Well that certainly is eye-opening. Thanks.

  181. @Goingblankagain

    increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa
     
    My general impression is that African-Africans hold opinions about African Americans that make your average iSteve reader look like Ibram X Kendi.

    Tangentially related, but what's the under/over on how long before the recipients of the $27m(!) payout for Floyd's death declare bankruptcy?

    I'm going 3.5 years.

    Replies: @bruce county, @William Badwhite, @Spect3r

    As someone who has family in Mozambique, i can confirm this. Black people in Mozambique absolutely despise Black Americans.
    But to be honest, they are also incredibly racists among them. The way they talk to each other would make a KKK member sound like a schoolgirl.

  182. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri


    Racism. Much like the racism that Leo Frank's defense was predicated-on when he tried to blame a blaq ex-con janitor for murder except the mob (as did a jury) ackshually decided the janitor was more trustworthy.
     
    By saying that Frank's defense was predicated on "racism" Loki is assuming Frank's guilt in advance. Maybe this was Frank's defense because it was true? Is it "racist" to blame the black guy if in fact it was the black guy? Just because the jury (and the mob) didn't believe him doesn't mean that they were right. Wrongful convictions happen all the time. The reason we don't just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.

    Why he is bringing up Frank in the first place I dunno except that it is some sort of sure marker for anti-Semites like bringing up the USS Liberty.

    The common-denominator in lynchings is being a recent-arrival.
     
    This part he gets right. Even though it is sort of mind blowing that a Southern jury would choose to believe a black man over a white given our modern understanding of how terribly, horribly racist the old South was, the black guy was perceived as being more THEIRS and Frank was the alien in this situation.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @HA, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke, @Hamlet's Ghost, @Joseph Doaks

    “The reason we don’t just lynch or execute people immediately after a jury verdict is that a full legal process allows us to correct mistakes.”

    Unlike our election process!

  183. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The one rational step that American elites could take to meet the demand that they’ve stoked for black leaders is to increase immigration from the educated elites of Africa ...

    How importing the heirs of African slave sellers will benefit the descendants of American slaves is almost as mysterious as how brain-draining Africa of what talent it has will be good for the burgeoning masses of that continent.
     

    We have figured out that "they" are electing a new people because they don't much like the one they've got. It turns out that they are also electing a new black people, and for similar reasons.

    The danger of politicizing any statistic is that people find perverse ways to hit their target. In this case the target is for the proportion of professional jobs held by black people to reflect their demographic strength, i.e about 15% of the US population. The supposed purpose is to help African Americans succeed, overcome racism, and so on. Yet a large part of the progress towards the goal will benefit Nigerians, not African Americans. The black underclass will remain left behind.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I first noticed this many years ago when reviewing the faculty of some Southern college or university whose name now escapes me. It was full of Indians.

    It was immediately obvious what had happened: the government had put pressure on this institution to employ more non-whites in academic posts, assuming – it being the South – that the jobs would go to blacks. The college sidestepped this by hiring Indians.

  184. @Jack D
    @William Badwhite

    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era? I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails, which indicates that the legal process was already under way. They just wanted to speed up matters or did not trust juries to agree with them.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era?

    Military governments focused on other things, blacks in positions of power, general postwar disorder and mayhem. There were thousands and the circumstances vary.

    I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails,

    You do? I thought your family didn’t come here until after WW2. More likely you’re cherry-picking from the few that you’ve read about. Go through the Project HAL spreadsheet.

    They just wanted to speed up matters

    Your ability to read the minds of people from 150+ years ago is impressive.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @William Badwhite


    Your ability to read the minds of people from 150+ years ago is impressive.
     
    That's inevitable. When we talk about the past, we're engaged in mind-reading. People don't always say what they mean or mean what they say. The narratives of the past, pro and con, are exercises in putting the best face* on whatever faction each particular author favors. That's true of Howard Zinn and it's true of the people he despises.

    * Remember that line in Blade Runner - "Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about your mother?" That's the way people think when they're writing about the home team. Only in their unique case, unlike everyone else, the portrait of distilled goodness they've sketched out is the literal truth, without qualification.

  185. @William Badwhite
    @Jack D


    Why was there impunity in the Reconstruction Era?
     
    Military governments focused on other things, blacks in positions of power, general postwar disorder and mayhem. There were thousands and the circumstances vary.

    I seem to recall that many of the lynched were abducted from jails,
     
    You do? I thought your family didn't come here until after WW2. More likely you're cherry-picking from the few that you've read about. Go through the Project HAL spreadsheet.

    They just wanted to speed up matters
     
    Your ability to read the minds of people from 150+ years ago is impressive.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    Your ability to read the minds of people from 150+ years ago is impressive.

    That’s inevitable. When we talk about the past, we’re engaged in mind-reading. People don’t always say what they mean or mean what they say. The narratives of the past, pro and con, are exercises in putting the best face* on whatever faction each particular author favors. That’s true of Howard Zinn and it’s true of the people he despises.

    * Remember that line in Blade Runner – “Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about your mother?” That’s the way people think when they’re writing about the home team. Only in their unique case, unlike everyone else, the portrait of distilled goodness they’ve sketched out is the literal truth, without qualification.

  186. @Anon
    @MEH 0910

    Glenn Lowry is releasing conversations with McWhorter biweekly to SubStack paying subscribers, early in the week, I think, then dribbling out excerpts through the week, and releasing the full video on Bloggingheads, on Fridays, I think. In the current full hourish long installment they talk about this towards the end. Lowry says he has Cornell West scheduled, and invites McWhorter to participate. I think the only reason West is talking to Lowry is because he's promoting a book.

    Then Lowry remembers he's got Murray coming on also. McWhorter says he's preordered Murray's book and says it has to be reckoned with. And then Lowry describes the book, obviously having read it. Lowry is a data-driven econometric economist, and he said Murray had marshalled a lot of data and research and was an excellent writer. He also praised Murray as being an erudite and articulate speaker. At the same time he was frowning, leaving the impression that he didn't like the message Murray was delivering and hoped it wasn't true. (Trivia: Lowry blurbed The Bell Curve when it was first published, his quote is on the book, but he quickly regretted that.)

    Lowry is a real life counterexample to the HBD creed, a black ghetto punk who knocked up a young girl and generally was going nowhere fast, but who ended up at MIT, Harvard, Brown ... But even then was doing drugs part of that time. He became a Christian, then unbecame a Christian. He's had a wild ride, but is obviously a far right tail smart guy, probably a one in a million black guy. Lowry is the master of the disputational technique of listening closely, steelmanning his guest's views and asking for confirmation, and only then offering his own take and position. It's quite a civilized way of getting to the bottom of things.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Arclight, @ravin' lunatic

    /agree

    glenn loury is a a real mensch and an invaluable speaker in these degenerate times. listen to him excoriating the race hustlers here:

  187. …at least their upbringing didn’t convince them that the only manly response to a diss is to open fire in the disser’s general direction even if you might wing bystanders eating ribs and twerking in the background.

    I’m sorry but I need a little clarification here. Are the twerkers and the rib eaters different groups of people? Or are the twerkers the ones eating ribs?

  188. @Art Deco
    @James Speaks

    British aristocracy?

    There are about 900 hereditary peers in Britain. Is there some evidence that these families are peculiarly stocked with inept people? (As opposed to their ineptitude being abnormally obtrusive?).

    Replies: @Gordo, @Alden

    The present peers have been peerage families for about. 200 to 500 years, a few, such as Norfolk much longer. So they can’t possibly be that inept to last that long.

    But they have no political power and haven’t for at least 100 years. They are irrelevant. The best they can do is preserve their money and hope the jews Muslims and blacks leave them alone.

  189. znon says:
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @countenance

    True, most White Americans don’t live near Blacks and thus the increase in Black violence has little impact on whites since most they live isolated from urban Blacks. The Ferguson effect was limited to St. Louis and a few other large cities. The Floyd effect spread to most of the Black urban areas compounded due to the economic and social damage caused by the lockdowns.

    Replies: @countenance, @znon

    I would comment that since it is clear that most of BLM supporters are white, and that the power of the media is to influence the entire community, that everyone from moms to teenagers to cops in my small suburban white town are looking for white boys of every age to use as scapegoats, with methods ranging from public rudeness all the way up to direct assault, and more.
    No one is safe from this by simple distance from the perceived source. Our running away and hiding behind the skirts of the police, has produced only the dangerous illusion of safety.

  190. @peterike
    Most of the article is spot on. Except for this:

    As reassuring as it is to imagine that when disasters befall America they must be the work of an all-knowing conspiratorial deep state out to get you, it seems more likely that there is no Inner Party.

     

    C'mon Steve. The Biden Admin is shoving blackity-black-ism down all our throats at a truly astounding pace. Everyone from Joe down to the lowliest Millennial intern is 100% on board with Floydism, or simply put, anti-white policies.

    And the Blue cities with Soros DAs continue to push ever more radical Leftist policies, especially on crime. It's open season and the ghetto gangbangers know it. Simultaneously, while black crime is allowed to run rampant, the government continues to hunt down every last person from the "Insurrection" who can conceivably be charged with a crime. America now officially and openly has political prisoners, nearly all of whom are white. Mitt Romney is thrilled. And the detainees are treated like prisoners in a Soviet gulag. See for yourself:

    https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/25/man-in-pelosis-office-discusses-jail-conditions-for-january-6-detainees/

    No "Inner Party"? The Inner Party is standing totally out in the open, doing exactly what they want, in full control of nearly every powerful institution in America from big business/tech/finance, to media to every corner of the Federal Government, including the military. And they've barely even gotten started on what's coming.

    But hey, thank god that useless loudmouth Trump isn't around! He never did a thing. Yeah, except prevent a takeover of the country by bloodthirsty anti-white radicals.

    Replies: @Alden

    Under the direction of that Idi Amin secretary of defense,, the army is searching social media cell phones credit card payments to hunt down any soldiers who were in or near DC 1/6/21 or said anything favorable about Trump or the demonstrators. Trump supporters in the military are considered White supremacists. As in anyone who voted for a sitting president in November 2020.

    It’s really happening. 53 years of affirmative action and government workers consist of non Whites who hate Whites and commie liberal Whites who want us all dead.

    OT plywood, cheap sheeting plywood jumped from $65 to $90 a sheet and that’s the contractors discount price. And windows, the stock size windows are not in stock anymore. They must be ordered 6 to 8 weeks for stock windows to be made in China of course. And siding can’t go on till the windows are installed. Only thing to do is get custom made windows for $800 instead of stock windows for $150. But without windows everything’s delayed 6 to 8 weeks. And copper wire price is going up every few days. So by the end of the year no business will be able to afford new building or remodeling and there’ll be a recession. So much for post covid prosperity. Only place hiring will be the welfare department. To take care of the permanently unemployed.

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