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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

The Flight From White Down Under
Steve Sailer

July 14, 2021

Granted, the concept of “white privilege” has already achieved mental hegemony, but is it true? It can be tested simply by measuring whether more people on the racial margins are attempting to pass from being considered nonwhite to white (as happened in the increasingly distant past) or instead from white to nonwhite.

Today, we see an increasing number of white-looking individuals, especially leftist female professors of grievance studies, striving for the privileges of being officially nonwhite.

This has become hilariously common in Australia …

Both The Australian and The Daily Mail’s antipodal edition recently ran articles on the complaints of two different female Aboriginal-identifying academics about “box-tickers” and “nine-to-five blacks” who get the career and financial privileges of being nominally Indigenous in 21st-century Australia without really being Aboriginal.

The Daily Mail reports Dr. Victoria Grieve-Williams (whose bio states that as a “recipient of three ARC DI grants, she has published extensively including on race and gender in Australian, Aboriginal and transnational histories”) as dishing about an unidentified rival in affirmative-action academia:

Dr Grieve-Williams says the woman is one of the growing number of Australians who claim to be Indigenous when they have no such ancestry.

“These people are sometimes called ‘box-tickers’—because they literally tick a box to say they are Aboriginal.”… Dr Grieve-Williams describes what they do as “Indigenous identify fraud.”…

“Universities and governments are employing so-called Aboriginal people without due diligence. High-level positions, huge salaries, great opportunities through Indigenous Business Australia, all of that’s being gobbled up. There’s no penalties, or checks and balances. These numbers are increasing.”

And in The Australian, Suzanne Ingram, a Ph.D. student in health communications who is “Chair of the Redfern-based Black Theatre Company, board member of Mudgin-gal Aboriginal Women’s Corporation and advocates for the Redfern Aboriginal Women’s Alliance,” explains how suspected academic impostors on the Indigenous gravy train sidestep her interrogations:

Box tickers have become adept at using defence strategies such as “lateral violence”—a concept that colonised people have internalised oppressive colonialist behaviours and turn on each other rather than the colonizers—to silence Aboriginal people who question them. …

Strikingly, both of the new accusers themselves wear their hair blond. Grieve-Williams looks rather like Donald Trump’s first wife, Ivana, and Ingram resembles a Danish milkmaid.

Read the whole thing there.

In contrast, here’s a recent photo of one of the last wild Australian Aborigines, whose 9-person band walked in out of the Bush in 1984:

 
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  1. The fairly pasty Australian band Midnight Oil released a song last year about how the Abos didn’t want Australia colonized.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    , @jamie b.
    @Redneck farmer

    Last year? They made their anti-colonial stance clear way back in the 80's. Who even knew that they're still around??

  2. anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day, and looking at these two –
    The lady at the top, Dr. Victoria Grieve-Williams – I’ll give her a pass as having Aboriginal heritage.
    The other lady, Ms Ingram, I would say minimal to almost no Aus Aboriginal background.

    • Agree: BB753, Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @anon

    ? I've seen tons of people looking like this, in Europe, and having nothing to do with Abos ...

    https://www.rmit.edu.au/content/dam/rmit/rmit-images/college-of-dsc-images/schools/media-and-communication/people/victoria-grieve-williams-800x800.jpg

    , @silviosilver
    @anon


    I’m an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day
     
    Lol, anybody who would write that is obviously a classic Aussie 'anti-racist' cuckboy. I have absolutely zero interest in anything you people have to say because, whatever it is, it always ends in the same demand: more money. Well, authentic or inauthentic, real or unreal, full blood or no blood, my answer is they can go fuck themselves.
    , @Boomthorkell
    @anon

    Her face seems to have that aboriginal broadness, but it being recessive, the otherwise Anglo nature of her skin and appearance made sense.

  3. Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Drovers Dog


    Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.
     
    Piss off idiot. Australia has been "listening" to whinging fucking Abos for well over fifty years now. It's all been heard before, a thousand times over. Abos will get nothing out of me.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Drovers Dog

    That's an interesting article.


    Ms Price, 40, who is of Warlpiri descent, is a fierce critic of many progressive Indigenous causes including the “Change the Date” movement surrounding Australia Day and Black Life Matters protesters, of whom she referred to as “virtue-signallers” and a “social media fad”.

    “All they are doing is shifting focus off the far bigger problems facing Indigenous Australians,” she said last month. “Indigenous Australians are far more likely to die at the hands of other Indigenous Australians than at the hands of white people or in police custody.”
     
    Sounds familiar.

    Replies: @Drovers Dog

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

  4. @Redneck farmer
    The fairly pasty Australian band Midnight Oil released a song last year about how the Abos didn't want Australia colonized.

    Replies: @Polistra, @jamie b.

    One presumes you’re familiar with “Beds Are Burning” — their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent “back” to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Polistra

    The Canucks used runaway slaves, and the Aussies used Abos.
    Or maybe "First Nations" for the Canadians.

    , @Drovers Dog
    @Polistra

    Have to admit it's a great tune though, content aside.

    , @Wilkey
    @Polistra


    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?
     
    Or, um…Western Europe?

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe - Iceland and Norway - are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.

    The fact that the general health and happiness of so much of the West started to tank just as our leaders turned on the immigration spigot should key us in to the effects of mass immigration.

    Why our leaders are in such a furious rush to surrender our resource advantage is a mystery - apart from the fact that they really don’t give a shit about the general welfare of their countrymen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    , @Supply and Demand
    @Polistra

    Asians.

    Replies: @tyrone

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Polistra


    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?
     
    In Australia, by the sentence of "transportation" for British criminals. The crimes that resulted in transportation were often so trivial that the practice was little more than a scam to extract forced labour. The period of transportation was often 7 years, after which the transportee could return to Britain, but most chose to stay in Australia as free men or women.
    , @PiltdownMan
    @Polistra

    A good '80s song and video.

    https://youtu.be/ejorQVy3m8E

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Polistra

    Poli, I sense a bit of snark, but resources such as minerals, fossil fuel, timber and farm land are the answer.

    Replies: @anon

    , @sb
    @Polistra

    There is not one dominant answer to this for Australia .
    In the beginning convict labour built the roads etc ( Remember they once went to the American colonies )
    Sugar cane plantation labour was initially supplied by Melanesians but with the White Australia Policy they were replaced largely by Italians who ended up largely owning and controlling the industry .
    But generally the early settlers were very cooperative in getting the hard work done and not much inclined to rugged individualism .But agriculture and mining -the basis of Australia's wealth -quickly became fairly mechanised

    Aborigines were notoriously unsuited for work as Westerners use the term with the one exception being that they were gifted horsemen and became commonplace in the pastoral industry
    ( This largely ended when equal pay became the law )

  5. They say you ain’t lived til you had a full blood Abo.

  6. There’s no way pure aboriginals are Homo sapiens, right? That does not look human. Granted, and no sarcasm here, it should be treated as such legally with all the courtesy, civility and respect afforded to people, but scientifically speaking…

  7. sb says:

    Well if your average Abo has fair hair ,blue eyes and a white skin I don’t envisage there being too much of a problem .
    It all becomes rather like those people who go around claiming to be klingons

    Mind you if I was a genuine Aborigine I might take umbrage at these imposters stealing all the goodies.
    But you never hear a peep from them

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @sb

    Now you mention it, the Kalahari bushmen seem very quiet, too.

    , @Anonymous
    @sb

    Neither of these women have blond hair, blue eyes or fair skin.

    , @Ed Case
    @sb

    Abos are nonconformists.
    16% are also Psychopaths, so there's no reason for other Australians to interact with them voluntarily.

  8. Anon[103] • Disclaimer says:

    Someone posted a series of screenshots from 4chan.org/pol/. Wikipedia describes this discussion board as follows:

    /pol/, short for “politically incorrect”, is a political discussion board on 4chan. The board has been noted for its racist, white supremacist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and transphobic content. The board serves partly as a “containment” area on 4chan: a place to divert trolls and extremists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/

    Ahem.

    Of course, Unz.com is described by Wikipedia as promoting “anti-semitism, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theories, and white supremacist material” and Steve Sailer doesn’t do much better.

    A series of IQ-related screen shots from /pol/ were posted on Twitter recently and got quite a few retweets. The images reproduced comments by an anonymous member who claimed to have been a psychology student working at San Quentin interviewing inmates, most of whom were low IQ. He related some specific cognitive difficulties that such people have, and I found it pretty interesting, although I haven’t been able to find much specific confirmation of the claims online.

    I put the images through an online OCR converter, changed the lowercase L’s to uppercase I’s, added some subtitles, and did some other cleanup, and here’s the result:

    COMPREHENSION OF CONDITIONAL HYPOTHETICALS

    I did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of this stuff. Did you know that most people (95 percent plus) with less than a 90 IQ cannot understand conditional hypotheticals?

    For example:

    “How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn’t eaten breakfast or lunch?”

    “What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch.”

    “Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?”

    “Why are you saying that I didn’t eat breakfast? I just told you that I did.”

    “Imagine that you hadn’t eaten it, though. How would you have felt?”

    “I don’t understand the question.”

    lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They’re absolute fucking retards, at least 50 percent illiterate.

    PRODUCTION OF RECURSIVE STORIES

    Another interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.

    For example:

    “Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.”

    Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.

    “Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.”

    In this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.”

    If you have less than a 90 IQ, this second exercise is basically completely impossible.

    Add a third level (“frame”) to the story, and even IQ 100s start to get mixed up with the names and who is talking.

    It turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!

    AWARENESS OF TIME AND RECOGNITION OF ANACHRONISMS

    Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80s. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past, and can’t plan for the future at all.

    Sub 90s struggle with anachronism too. For example, I remember the 80-85s stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.

    For instance:

    “Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn’t use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?”

    “I guess they didn’t want to get hacked by Nazis?”

    Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.

    Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100 plus IQs have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like “Memento” strains them a little.

    Recursion was definitely the killer, though.

    Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren’t too many of those!)

    EMPATHY AND SOCIOPATHIC AND PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR

    It’s the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQs are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don’t have the mental computing power to model other people’s thoughts and feelings. I’ve seen it over and over with convicts.

    “How do you think that man felt when you beat him?”

    “Dunno.”

    “How do you think that boy’s mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?”

    “Dunno.”

    lt comes across as psychopathic, but these people literally don’t have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else’s mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past.

    ABSTRACT COGNITIVE MAPPING

    I forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is “mapping.” This is, basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.

    For example:

    “Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.

    “Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the street and the highest number being at the exit.

    “If you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?”

    This question really isn’t tricky for most 100 plusers. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the “mapping””: that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.

    However, for sub-90s, this stuff is really difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80s just can’t do it at all.

    Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can’t learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes), even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.

    MATHEMATICS

    Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it is heavily decided by IQ. That’s a bit tautological, since it’s a principal IQ measurement, but you know what I mean.

    NARCISSISM

    As for the criminal narcissists etc: I honestly don’t know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you’re smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.

    I suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it’s like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don’t have the “hardware” for empathy.

    That’s it.

    • Thanks: Moses
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    “Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn’t use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?”

    “I guess they didn’t want to get hacked by Nazis?”
     

    Their Enigma code was ultimately breakable thanks to the anally-retentive schoolboy error that a letter couldn't represent itself. I can imagine the morons and imbeciles in San Quentin would be the first to ask, "Why not?"

    The Brits eliminated this flaw in their Bombe knockoff, and the Germans did find that unbreakable. Let Dr Grime at Numberphile explain the details:


    https://youtu.be/G2_Q9FoD-oQ

    https://youtu.be/V4V2bpZlqx8

    Replies: @Anon

    , @JimDandy
    @Anon

    A certain minimum I.Q. is a prerequisite for empathy? There must have been studies on this, right? It's funny, I've been thinking lately that too much emphasis is being put on I.Q.--that more focus should be put on the genetic differences that are causing the wildly disproportionate representation of blacks when it comes to violent crime--the so-called "warrior gene" or whatever. But maybe it does mostly come down to I.Q.?

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anon

    It doesn't seem true to me that low IQ people can't feel empathy. The explanation is more likely that people who can't feel empathy are likely to be criminals.

    Low IQ people, like Down's Syndrome sufferers, often seem to have a surfeit of empathy. They can't always distinguish between themselves and others clearly and are often made very upset by other people feeling pain. Low IQ people are also more likely to be superstitious and assume that if they do something bad to someone, something bad will happen to them. If anything very high IQ people tend to be colder and rational about dealing out pain to others, realizing that there is no such thing as "karma" , and it is quite possible to get away with hurting other people with no consequence to oneself.

  9. It’s curious that there was no mention of DNA tests (don’t they have Ancestry DNA in Australia?), which would surely clarify who is and who isn’t aborigine. Heck, Elizabeth Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @PaceLaw


    Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.
     
    Warren pulled back on the Indian bullshit not for the reason that you think. The initial spin in the Democrat controlled MSM was positive for Warren - "DNA Tests Prove that Warren has Native American Ancestry! Trump Lied!" You might think that this is ludicrous but the Left has the clout to pull this off.

    However, what caused her to back off was criticism from Native American tribes themselves. According to them, being an Indian is a matter of tribal enrollment (and Warren is not enrolled in any tribe). DNA is the white man's science and has nothing to do with being Indian.

    The latter is very convenient for many tribal leaders who look awfully damn white (especially in Eastern tribes with lucrative casino franchises). Or in some cases, black. The last thing that they want is to be DNA tested - they might not do any better than Warren.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @sb
    @PaceLaw

    The idea of DNA testing to decide who is or is not Aboriginal is always shouted down by the Aborigine Industry -which is largely controlled by those who may not "pass " such a test

    it's all about the "vibe "

  10. I thought the article was going to somehow end up talking about Ash Barty, the young Australian lady who has just won the women’s title at the Wimbledon tennis championships.

    The modern custom of everyone treating white looking people as aboriginal, and doing so with a completely straight face, is perfectly represented in the case of Ms Barty. To me she just looks like a regular white person, with perhaps a tiny suggestion of something else if you really squint. But everyone, herself included, insists she’s ‘indigenous’.

    Winning at sport takes actual talent, so I guess it’s not as funny as white fake-aborigines competing with each other for jobs in the diversity industry.

    But I wonder how much 25 year old Ash Barty’s decision to identify as aboriginal is due to pressure from the media and current fashion rather than what feels natural to herself. If you’re only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @Emblematic


    If you’re only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?
     
    Leaving aside that part-natives do "get [] extra reward", the reason that an individual might 'up-rate' their aboriginality might be as simple as the aboriginal ancestor being a good role model.

    My maternal grandfather was Maori; if he had been a violent drunken asshole, I would be less conscious of his role in shaping my character. He contributed genetically; through his role in being my mother's father; and through his exemplary treatment of me when I lived with them for a year.

    It also makes me larf when dumb cunts propose Blood Quantum as the proper basis for membership of a culture. For example: Maori had slaves (taurekareka); manumitted slaves were full members of the tribe; hence it was - and is - entirely possible for a full member of a tribe to have literally 100% Euromutt DNA.

    There is at least one famous rangatira (chief) who had a son-in-law who was originally a white slave, who was manumitted after acquitting himself well and was permitted to marry the rangatira's dughter. The son-in-law was one of the first recognised Pakeha Maori: Jacky Marmon - originally an Australian, who was captured by Nga Puhi in the mid-1820s.

    Of course it helps that maoritanga is fucking awesome; "whanau and whenua" is as close to "blood and soil" as you can get - which is why Maori have a history of forcing pakeha to respect mana whenua. Still and all, the moment you're accepted into the iwi, you are part of whanau, so the "blood" bit is not a necessary condition, you numpties. (Contrast that with the lot that faced a manumitted slave in the US or the Caribbean).

    Whites are in New Zealand on the basis of a treaty that was negotiated and executed in bad faith by the English (e.g., deliberate textual differences between the Maori and English versions of the text, that enable English-law interpretations that are wildly at variance with Maori intentions).

    The treaty was also reneged upon within a decade (like so many treaties in so many places); the exceptio non adimplenti contractus (and the overarching maxim frangenti fidem fides frangatur iedem) are two concepts from Common Law that should properly apply. Maori properly owe no allegiance to the New Zealand government until it remedies the breach and compensates the tribes - a process that the NZ government has fought tooth and nail since the 1860s, but one which it will inevitably lose.

    Utu, bitches.

    It shouldn't surprise anyone that the people who navigated 5000km across open ocean in canoes - at a time when Whites were just beginning the non-coast-hugging bits of the Age of Exploration - turn out to have a few clues.

    Replies: @22pp22, @Jack D

  11. The establishment here seems hellbent on making non-Abos feel like foreigners. Not only has it long been the de facto rule that you can’t fly the Australian flag without also flying the Abo flag next to it, I noticed a big ‘road sign’ saying Wurringerrabinga Country (I just made that name up, but it was something like that) on the highway a couple of days ago. That wasn’t in the middle of the bush somewhere, but right on the outskirts of my own city. Not a formal charge ‘trespassing’ then, but I guess we have been ‘put on notice.’

    That’s not the sort of thing the average person notices or would care about, and it’s easy to fob them off with some claptrap about ‘honouring our heritage’ if they ask too many questions, but I notice, and, at the risk of sounding a bit unhinged, it makes my blood boil when I see that crap.

  12. There’s any number of Aboriginal-only government jobs going too. My department is advertising one position right now for an Aboriginal cleaner. That’s right, even the garbage down here cares what race you are!

    I looked into one of those ads a couple of years ago. All you had to do, to demonstrate how genuinely Aboriginal you were, was sign a statutory declaration. Looked at another ad, last year, for an Aboriginal I.T. position. Nowhere could I find any requirement for knowing anything at all about I.T or anything other than (allegedly) being an Aborigine. So presumably they were going to fully train, from scratch, the successful applicant. Salary was $70,000.

    I am so goddamn tempted sometimes to have a go at this rort myself.

  13. @anon
    I'm an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day, and looking at these two -
    The lady at the top, Dr. Victoria Grieve-Williams - I'll give her a pass as having Aboriginal heritage.
    The other lady, Ms Ingram, I would say minimal to almost no Aus Aboriginal background.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @silviosilver, @Boomthorkell

    ? I’ve seen tons of people looking like this, in Europe, and having nothing to do with Abos …

  14. @Drovers Dog
    Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Harry Baldwin, @PiltdownMan

    Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.

    Piss off idiot. Australia has been “listening” to whinging fucking Abos for well over fifty years now. It’s all been heard before, a thousand times over. Abos will get nothing out of me.

  15. @sb
    Well if your average Abo has fair hair ,blue eyes and a white skin I don't envisage there being too much of a problem .
    It all becomes rather like those people who go around claiming to be klingons

    Mind you if I was a genuine Aborigine I might take umbrage at these imposters stealing all the goodies.
    But you never hear a peep from them

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Ed Case

    Now you mention it, the Kalahari bushmen seem very quiet, too.

  16. @anon
    I'm an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day, and looking at these two -
    The lady at the top, Dr. Victoria Grieve-Williams - I'll give her a pass as having Aboriginal heritage.
    The other lady, Ms Ingram, I would say minimal to almost no Aus Aboriginal background.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @silviosilver, @Boomthorkell

    I’m an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day

    Lol, anybody who would write that is obviously a classic Aussie ‘anti-racist’ cuckboy. I have absolutely zero interest in anything you people have to say because, whatever it is, it always ends in the same demand: more money. Well, authentic or inauthentic, real or unreal, full blood or no blood, my answer is they can go fuck themselves.

  17. White Aussie here; you have this spot on. Andrew Bolt was clobbered by The Establishment for his common sense comments. Similar comments are made by Aborigines regularly about urban people of little or no indigenous blood cashing in on grants and the like. Understandably, it’s money meant for people who are disadvantaged, being taken by people who don’t need it. But it’s RACIST to question their claims.

    The ongoing circumstances of a lot of genuine Aborigines are awful, and billions of dollars have been spent to no effect. HBD and all that…..

    • Replies: @Ed Case
    @Empty Vessel


    Understandably, it’s money meant for people who are disadvantaged, being taken by people who don’t need it.
     
    That's not the issue.
    There's no applications from Tribal or semi Tribal Abos for Art and Writing Grants, because they're not interested or in Gaol.
    It's Government money for nothing so Labor Party connected grifters can cash in.
    The Murdoch Press in Australia has been a big promoter of Free Cash for Fake Abos.
  18. From Ashleigh Barty’s Wikipedia page:

    Barty was born on 24 April 1996 to Josie and Robert Barty. Her father had grown up in rural North Queensland and later worked for the State Library of Queensland.[3] Through her father, she is a member of the Ngaragu people, indigenous to southern New South Wales and northeastern Victoria.[4][5] Barty’s mother works as a radiographer and is the daughter of English immigrants.

    From one of the links:

    Around the same time, Barty and her sisters learnt about their Indigenous background, which derives from their great-grandmother, a member of the Ngaragu people from southern NSW and north-eastern Victoria. The three girls began the process of registering with the clan, and learning what they could.

    The language itself is nearly extinct, but a dictionary of key words exists, which could be used to describe her game. Her forehand is like malub, lightning. Her smash is like miribi, thunder; her backhand slice like djuran, running water. And she glides lightly on the court like a mugan, a ghost. Barty has just been named Sportswoman of the Year in the National Dreamtime Awards.

    “My heritage is really important to me,” she says, putting her flat white down for a moment. “I’ve always had that olive complexion and the squished nose, and I just think it’s important to do the best I can to be a good role model.” People have, after all, been watching her since childhood.

    https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2017/second-serve/

    Has the word Aboriginal now become taboo in favour of Indigenous?

  19. This could be updated with Ash Barty, who is number 1 in women’s tennis and just won Wimbledon.

    Granted she does have aboriginal ancestry but she does not look very aboriginal to me and unfortunately the media is not clear about it either.

    On Wikipedia it states that „her father is a member of the Ngaragu People“, though a comment points out that her great-grandmother is aboriginal (and the link cited reveals that she only learned about this when she was a teenager).

    Of course, Ash Barty and the media around the world are pushing the indigenous Australian narrative.
    Barty is the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia

    • Replies: @One time poster
    @One time poster

    Doing a quick Image Google search of her parents: her dad does not look aboriginal at all and her dad looks actually less aboriginal than her mother, who is according to Wikipedia of English descent. Ash Barty looks more similar to her mum then dad (particularly, mouth, nose and eye form; though she seems to have the brown eyes from her dad instead of blue eyes like her mom).

  20. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    A bunch of boomerangs. Pretty harmless as the Aboris won’t amount to much.

    More troubling is African immigration to Australia.

    And Christian Zionists do far more harm.

    And the famed kangaroo-Jew Luke Ford.

  21. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    The Canucks used runaway slaves, and the Aussies used Abos.
    Or maybe “First Nations” for the Canadians.

  22. @One time poster
    This could be updated with Ash Barty, who is number 1 in women’s tennis and just won Wimbledon.

    Granted she does have aboriginal ancestry but she does not look very aboriginal to me and unfortunately the media is not clear about it either.

    On Wikipedia it states that „her father is a member of the Ngaragu People“, though a comment points out that her great-grandmother is aboriginal (and the link cited reveals that she only learned about this when she was a teenager).

    Of course, Ash Barty and the media around the world are pushing the indigenous Australian narrative.
    Barty is the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia

    Replies: @One time poster

    Doing a quick Image Google search of her parents: her dad does not look aboriginal at all and her dad looks actually less aboriginal than her mother, who is according to Wikipedia of English descent. Ash Barty looks more similar to her mum then dad (particularly, mouth, nose and eye form; though she seems to have the brown eyes from her dad instead of blue eyes like her mom).

  23. It all becomes rather like those people who go around claiming to be klingons

    I had a work-study job at San Francisco State College when the Feds decided we had to be racially categorized (circa 1969?), so I wrote down “Klingon”. But my boss called me in and declared he would write down “White” if I didn’t.

    Some of the folks here disagree with him.

    Speaking of possibly self-serving self-identification, this woman hereinsists she’s “Dominican”, and is the principal accused of trying to purge white people from Washington Heights high school in New York City. https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/12/nyc-school-faculty-accuse-principal-conspiring-fire-white-teachers/#comment-5454956162 In the Breitbart article she looks very Pilipino, but (more recent?) shots show her with curled hair looking more black, and I wonder if the box she checked maximized her Pokemon points at affirmative action promotion time.

  24. cmv says:

    One thing to note is that aboriginality is more a matter of identification, not appearance, so this sort of thing can slide, especially in the Eastern States, where there are far fewer full-blooded aborigines. Tasmania, Melbourne and Sydney would be the worst offenders in this regard.

    I’ve previously spent a few years living in the catchment area of the Gibson desert. There are plenty of Aboriginals in Outback Australia who look just like that member of the Pintupi 9, but they are not getting university grants or working as inclusion officers for BHP Billiton- A disconcertingly large amount of them seem to spend their day getting drunk or abusing solvents in the local park, sniping for cigarette butts, breaking into cars or feuding between themselves or members of rival skin groups. Life hasn’t really changed much from them over the past few generations.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @cmv


    One thing to note is that aboriginality is more a matter of identification, not appearance...
     
    That's ridiculous. It's about how much of your ancestry was in Australia before the whites came and how much wasn't. It's genetics, not LARPing.

    This Barty tennis person is maybe 1/8 abo. Full stop.
    , @Mackerel Sky
    @cmv

    There are no full-blood Tasmanian aboriginals. All Tasmanian aboriginals living today have substantial European ancestry. The last Tasmanian aboriginal with no European ancestors was Truganini, who died in 1876.

    Phenotypically, many Tasmanian aboriginals are indistinguishable from Europeans, and can only be readily identified by their "I stand on my land" T-shirts.

  25. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:

    The first woman is not blond, but grey. But I’ll give Steve a pass since he admittedly has deficient eyesight (and intellect).

    I’m pretty sure that Australian Aboriginals, Papua New Guineans and Soloman Islanders have a high incidence of blond hair anyway. At the end of the day a fake blonde is just a fake blonde, no excuses for one whether she identifies as white or not.

  26. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @sb
    Well if your average Abo has fair hair ,blue eyes and a white skin I don't envisage there being too much of a problem .
    It all becomes rather like those people who go around claiming to be klingons

    Mind you if I was a genuine Aborigine I might take umbrage at these imposters stealing all the goodies.
    But you never hear a peep from them

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Ed Case

    Neither of these women have blond hair, blue eyes or fair skin.

    • Disagree: gandydancer
  27. Anonymous[994] • Disclaimer says:

    White women don’t want to be white, because women of color have a better female narrative set out for them as members of the oppressed races (per critical race theory…).

    All women have a Pocahontas complex that is central to female identity. White women have nowhere to aspire to but downwards, and are quickly being replaced in the upper middle class neighborhoods they want to live in, by superior Asian females, who actually look like Pocahontas.

    • Troll: Rosie
  28. I’ve been to the Outback enough times to where they consider me an Abo, or at least I got this one card with which I can travel to the Outback again and upgrade to a 16 oz. sirloin. My problem is not the box ticking – my problem is that artery-clogging food affecting my ticker.

    OK, but seriously, Ronald Reagan surely didn’t make up this expression, but if you subsidize something you get more of it, (I like that example with the Navajo.) Why don’t more Americans tick the box? As you wrote, the Afro gene is dominant, so it’s pretty hard for those with the Danish milk maid look to get away with it. People in general are pretty honest, but you’d figure Aussies would give in to the temptation that is obviously a lot easier to get away with there. For us, the hair curling, lip enhancements and time at the tanning salon add up to a lot of time and money.

    People are pretty honest, but with the anti-White Establishment pushing them around, it’s a wonder more haven’t pushed to game the system just to fight back Alinsky-style. They should, because this stuff is not just going to stop on its own. If you’re gonna do this, wouldn’t it be better to just take advantage of the subsidized life, but keep a low profile and not raise any hell about it?

    Or is it that if you are of one of the privileged groups in America, you must speak out against the treatment of your alleged people just to fit in? That could be true in the university departments that the women in these BS majors “work” in. I’m guessing Miss Grieve(ance?) Williams – what an appropriate name – is just jealous of the slightly paler skin and likely more milk-maid-ready features of Miss Ingram. Ohhhh, cat fight, Abo style!

    • Replies: @Seneca44
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Why don’t more Americans tick the box? "

    We certainly should. Here's hoping that the set asides will be overwhelmed by huge numbers of real and faux "minorities" claiming their share of the DIE spoils. My pasty white with anglo ancestors from the 17th century self has been checking the mixed race box on the census form for the last three decades.

    , @Wilkey
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Why don’t more Americans tick the box?
     
    I’ve made this point plenty of times. You should be be honest on the census, because that’s where the government gets its numbers to base its supposedly non-existent quotas.

    On every other form you are asked to fill out you should lie lie lie. On loan applications, on job applications, on standardized tests - anything and everything. Throw a few monkey wrenches into the system. The SAT is never going to come to verify your race. If the college your kid applies to wants a photo just Photoshop it up a bit to make them look a little more ethnic. Banks and most employers don’t care if you lie. In fact, they are happy to be able to report lending to or hiring another minority.

    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left. And until we are we are always going to lose the big battles - even within our own party, where big business controls pretty much everything, and always gets its way.

    Replies: @Anon

  29. @Drovers Dog
    Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Harry Baldwin, @PiltdownMan

    That’s an interesting article.

    Ms Price, 40, who is of Warlpiri descent, is a fierce critic of many progressive Indigenous causes including the “Change the Date” movement surrounding Australia Day and Black Life Matters protesters, of whom she referred to as “virtue-signallers” and a “social media fad”.

    “All they are doing is shifting focus off the far bigger problems facing Indigenous Australians,” she said last month. “Indigenous Australians are far more likely to die at the hands of other Indigenous Australians than at the hands of white people or in police custody.”

    Sounds familiar.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Drovers Dog
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yes, depressingly familiar.

  30. Not even K-Lo after 10 Special Brus

  31. Those pure Abo women sure are lookers.

  32. Abos, like Gypsies, are groups that would naturally appear to fall in with Jews/American blacks in the “we’re oppressed all time crowd” and should be well on their way to full whiny-for-what-we-want cultural dominance, but have fallen far behind their grievance brothers.

    Abos likely because while they appear black, they actually seem to behave more like Native Americans without casinos: tribal, rural, isolated, independent, substance abuse issues , and really not in the mood to hustle the system that hard. And like with Native Americans, the biggest grievance mongers amongst them tend to be the Ward Churchill fakers or those with only a small amount of ancestry (and like with 19th and 20th century whites claiming Indian blood, modern Australians enjoy claiming some Abo blood).

    Meanwhile, gypsies tend to act like Jews with 20-30 point lower IQs, or blacks with less showboating and less funny improvisation skills , which makes it awfully hard to hide the con artistry and thievery. Also, gypsy thieves tend to be super-aggressive, and the anti-broken-windows, lazy police culture in many European countries only encouraged this. I knew many a far-left, CRT-trained American girl who went abroad and came back and b*tched about gypsies in Europe were merely repeating “racism” to distract you while they lifted your wallets or throwing babies at you to take your purse. It was humorous to hear them being all red pilled on Gypsies but refusing through CrimeStop to apply the same lessons to Jews and blacks.

  33. There was some anonymous backlash in Wikipedia against Ash Barty, the Wimbledon champion, claiming to be aboriginal. She may be milking this for all it’s worth, but looking at her I have no problem believing she is 1/8 Abo as she claims.

  34. Pitch for a “reality TV” show:

    “Abo Wars” sees contestants go through a series of endurance exercises on camera. The exercises are designed to be representative of the lived experience of indigenous Australians and may include such typical events as:

    Going walkabout in the Western Desert for a week
    Crafting and using a boomerang
    Sitting through a four hour faculty meeting
    Delivering a speech on poverty at Davos
    Preparing grubs as part of a ketogenic diet
    Wrestling with cassowaries.

    Series winner gets tenure in the Elizabeth Warren Chair of First Nations Studies at Harvard.

  35. I have been interacting with many Iranians online lately. Like real ones not American-born ones. In the US they could all claim at least unofficial POC status. But they are not infected with American hangups so even the darker ones seem to identify as white/Aryan. They also all have a very naïve understanding of race in general and American race relations in particular, even as most of them openly wish to immigrate to the US. I’m not surprised, since the Arab mullahs ruling Iran think that promoting black supremacy is good for Iran and bad for the US. They actually let the black hostages go during the embassy siege because of the alleged “oppression” of black federal employees in 1979. More recently the government has supported BLM. If they hate America then why do they support the US regime’s publicly supported anti-white terrorist groups?

  36. Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino – Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn’t really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Arclight


    Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino – Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn’t really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM943wt1xLA
    , @Flip
    @Arclight

    I had business dealings with a guy with an Irish surname who looked completely white who was an enrolled member of an Indian tribe and got minority set asides.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight

    Arclight, I know the scene you're talking about. A few commenters have put it up here before, but I couldn't find it for the life of me. I don't know if this is from the same episode - this is from the one with the Columbus Day protests by Indian Chief Del Red Clay here - but it's pretty good. The realism is hilarious:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_BTg9_FV9M

    Haha, "... about this protest you're spearheading, no pun intended." LOL!

  37. The whole thing is a huge identity politics scam.

    All of the coverage of Ash Barty had to do with her “indigenous” heritage, which is true enough, but totally irrelevant. She’s just a middle-class girl from Queensland. Comparing her to Evonne Goolagong-Cawley, who really did come up from poverty, is ludicrous.

    Dare I call it…. racism??

    Congrats on Barty’s win, to you Australians. She seems a nice young lady.

    I didn’t realize until she won that Patrick Mills is part-Aboriginal. He gave a cringey press conference in which he called attention to her skirt, which apparently recalled Miss Goolagong’s 1971 togs. In what world does a grown man talk about what some girl is wearing?

    Still no word on South Africa in flames, blogmeister?

  38. Even the most hack rate dime store novelist could not come up with better names than “Victoria Grieve-Williams” or “Judge Mordechai Bromberg” to get the message across to the dullest of readers about what is really going on in the land down under. Even “Andrew Bolt” sounds pretty heroic!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @DCThrowback

    I can add to the flavouring Steve no doubt intended by mentioning Mordie Bromberg as the Federal Court judge. I used to know the former Federal Court judge Ron Merkel who, after early retirement, returned to the Bar and good causes. Unfortunately he was able to catch out Andrew Bolt (a Dutch immigrant who moved from Labor to thoroughgoing Right) in slightly deficient homework on some of the "Aborigines" he implied were on a gravy train. There were a trio of able and amiable Jewish barristers who shared chambers. Unfortunately in his latter day incarnation as a human rights warrior Ron Merkel disgraced himself by bringing the word "Nazi" into his rhetoric. So unlike the Jews I was at school with, champion sprinter [Jewish name] and full forward for our Australian Rules football team and, as our full back, Ron Merkel's older brother- safely ensconced in the textile business I think.

    All this to show that Australia only has enough pretend problems for us to have been able to have moratorium marches (gee! we lost 500 killed in Vietnam" US 60,000) and Freedom Rides while our Aboriginal population is about a quarter of that from China (including diaspra) and India. You might think our few thousand South Sudanese refugees were pulling their weight as violent black African criminals but I have to say that the last one I saw was a slim gorgeous talkative international fashion model eldest of 12 born to her Muslim mother when mother was 14 on the first ABC One on One I had ever watched. She is bi but LBGT and has a wife whom she can be seen kissing on the cover of Vogue or whatever. But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life here until the Chinese stop buying our iron ore at inflated prices or decide to sink our lovely new 1980s stlyle submarines in 2035 when they are delivered.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  39. Canadian universities are being rocked by allegations of exaggerated aboriginal credentials among profs.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/queens-professor-indigenous-identity-claim-questioned-1.6067594

  40. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    Have to admit it’s a great tune though, content aside.

  41. @Harry Baldwin
    @Drovers Dog

    That's an interesting article.


    Ms Price, 40, who is of Warlpiri descent, is a fierce critic of many progressive Indigenous causes including the “Change the Date” movement surrounding Australia Day and Black Life Matters protesters, of whom she referred to as “virtue-signallers” and a “social media fad”.

    “All they are doing is shifting focus off the far bigger problems facing Indigenous Australians,” she said last month. “Indigenous Australians are far more likely to die at the hands of other Indigenous Australians than at the hands of white people or in police custody.”
     
    Sounds familiar.

    Replies: @Drovers Dog

    Yes, depressingly familiar.

  42. @Achmed E. Newman
    I've been to the Outback enough times to where they consider me an Abo, or at least I got this one card with which I can travel to the Outback again and upgrade to a 16 oz. sirloin. My problem is not the box ticking - my problem is that artery-clogging food affecting my ticker.

    OK, but seriously, Ronald Reagan surely didn't make up this expression, but if you subsidize something you get more of it, (I like that example with the Navajo.) Why don't more Americans tick the box? As you wrote, the Afro gene is dominant, so it's pretty hard for those with the Danish milk maid look to get away with it. People in general are pretty honest, but you'd figure Aussies would give in to the temptation that is obviously a lot easier to get away with there. For us, the hair curling, lip enhancements and time at the tanning salon add up to a lot of time and money.

    People are pretty honest, but with the anti-White Establishment pushing them around, it's a wonder more haven't pushed to game the system just to fight back Alinsky-style. They should, because this stuff is not just going to stop on its own. If you're gonna do this, wouldn't it be better to just take advantage of the subsidized life, but keep a low profile and not raise any hell about it?

    Or is it that if you are of one of the privileged groups in America, you must speak out against the treatment of your alleged people just to fit in? That could be true in the university departments that the women in these BS majors "work" in. I'm guessing Miss Grieve(ance?) Williams - what an appropriate name - is just jealous of the slightly paler skin and likely more milk-maid-ready features of Miss Ingram. Ohhhh, cat fight, Abo style!

    Replies: @Seneca44, @Wilkey

    “Why don’t more Americans tick the box? ”

    We certainly should. Here’s hoping that the set asides will be overwhelmed by huge numbers of real and faux “minorities” claiming their share of the DIE spoils. My pasty white with anglo ancestors from the 17th century self has been checking the mixed race box on the census form for the last three decades.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  43. They will next start claiming several generations of their maternal lines were raped by white men, because that last woman is so obviously irresistible. Compared to sheep.

  44. @Drovers Dog
    Australia should listen to REAL aboriginies living out in the bush like this mother and daughter team who have been fighting the good fight for years.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Harry Baldwin, @PiltdownMan

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @PiltdownMan

    It makes me wonder what descendants there are of the 1860 all Aboriginal (and Victorian I think) cricket team that went to England. My recollection is that they were all black. I daresay those that didn't take to drink and die as alcoholics probably have mow mostly white descendants.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    Price? This is Irish.

    Another confirmation of what I've said: the Irish would screw everything that moves, including a rattlesnake if one would hold her head.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Ed Case

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @PiltdownMan

    What white guy looked at that and said, man I got to have me some. Holy crap.

    , @Djkjcgjj
    @PiltdownMan

    That’s true.

    As different as Abos seem from whites, their traits don’t dominate as much in mixtures as black Africans’ traits.

    It makes sense — although they’re very dark-skinned, many have fair hair, even blond, as children.

    Some have very curly hair, but most have merely curly/wavy hair, a texture that is common among around 15% to 25% of whites (my estimate/guess), and none have the extreme kink of black Africans.

    I suspect their skin and eye color, although very dark, is less packed with melanin than black Africans’, making for a more intermediate shade in mixtures. No people except for Europeans, and those related to/mixed with them, have any eye color other than brown or black, not even the fairest-skinned East Asians.

    Their facial features, although seemingly very different from whites, are really just a heavier, more robust (could say “primitive”, but that wouldn’t be nice) version of features that also exist among a sizable minority of whites. Mixtures of Abo/white tend to resemble Polynesians, but with less East Asian input.

    , @Svevlad
    @PiltdownMan

    they got genetically bottlenecked at some point so their genes are really recessive

    plus they're despite the isolation in the same continuum as eurasians. Africans are ludicrously remote genetically in comparison.

  45. Steve is wrong this time in his phenotype summary.

    The first woman definitely looks part abo.

  46. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino - Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn't really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Flip, @Achmed E. Newman

    Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino – Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn’t really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.

  47. The only people who should be complaining about this innovative white Aussie co-option of affirmative action are real, existing Aboriginals. This is a huge win-win for white Aussies. First they get to fill the inevitable AA positions with high IQ whites, albeit with the vaguely odd facial features. Second, AA is now open to all heritage whites who have been in Australia for several generations, and are willing to claim Aboriginal ancestry. This also cuts off any “people of colour” coalitions, as recent immigrants are by definition cut off from claiming Abo ancestry. These white fake-abos are race heroes undermining and nullifying any true affirmative action programs.

  48. @DCThrowback
    Even the most hack rate dime store novelist could not come up with better names than "Victoria Grieve-Williams" or "Judge Mordechai Bromberg" to get the message across to the dullest of readers about what is really going on in the land down under. Even "Andrew Bolt" sounds pretty heroic!

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

    I can add to the flavouring Steve no doubt intended by mentioning Mordie Bromberg as the Federal Court judge. I used to know the former Federal Court judge Ron Merkel who, after early retirement, returned to the Bar and good causes. Unfortunately he was able to catch out Andrew Bolt (a Dutch immigrant who moved from Labor to thoroughgoing Right) in slightly deficient homework on some of the “Aborigines” he implied were on a gravy train. There were a trio of able and amiable Jewish barristers who shared chambers. Unfortunately in his latter day incarnation as a human rights warrior Ron Merkel disgraced himself by bringing the word “Nazi” into his rhetoric. So unlike the Jews I was at school with, champion sprinter [Jewish name] and full forward for our Australian Rules football team and, as our full back, Ron Merkel’s older brother- safely ensconced in the textile business I think.

    All this to show that Australia only has enough pretend problems for us to have been able to have moratorium marches (gee! we lost 500 killed in Vietnam” US 60,000) and Freedom Rides while our Aboriginal population is about a quarter of that from China (including diaspra) and India. You might think our few thousand South Sudanese refugees were pulling their weight as violent black African criminals but I have to say that the last one I saw was a slim gorgeous talkative international fashion model eldest of 12 born to her Muslim mother when mother was 14 on the first ABC One on One I had ever watched. She is bi but LBGT and has a wife whom she can be seen kissing on the cover of Vogue or whatever. But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life here until the Chinese stop buying our iron ore at inflated prices or decide to sink our lovely new 1980s stlyle submarines in 2035 when they are delivered.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Wizard of Oz


    But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life

     

    If you're referring to Ash Barty, she's fractionally Aboriginal in blood and 100% Aboriginal in identity. Where you been?

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

  49. Would that the rate of migration from “White/Caucasian” to “Other” or to “Prefer Not To Say” were more readily available among respondents to the Census and to other polls. Whitey is aware of the Zeitgeist, and is responding accordingly. With noise swamping signal, the implications for integrationist zealots are intriguing: Do they declare victory? Do they initiate fresh campaigns? What data would drive fresh campaigns when the target has turned chameleon?

    With all the leaden ink injected into white skin these days, and with “identifies as” all the rage, one also wonders if “colored” won’t return as an option to these polls – as if further confounding were needed.

  50. What is it about Anglo nations that make them so particularly susceptible to the Jewish mind virus? From ruling the world not that long ago — with a firm, even cruel, hand, and no F’s given whatsoever — to a collection of nations that are actively committing suicide and doing everything possible to overwhelm and displace their legacy white populations with anyone on earth that wants to show up — Africans, Arabs, Asians, they all come pouring in, unchecked.

    UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand all have ruling classes that are even worse than the dreadful American ruling class. They are openly and officially anti-white, aggressively so in the UK and Canada. And the train is picking up speed with no sign of any pushback that isn’t immediately squashed by the ruling class. Thought-crime arrests are robust in the UK and getting increased traction in the other nations.

    Why are Anglo nations unable to resist Jewish minoritarianism? Imagine England today if they had never let the Jews back in. Indeed, imagine Europe and the world. Totally different places.

    • Agree: Paleo Retiree
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @peterike

    Jewish Oligarch-Gangsters are entrapping White Gentile leaders into prostitution rings. Then sexual blackmail is exerted to demand favors.

    Just look at how many elites were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein. Like Bill&Hillary Clinton.

    Watch this 3-minute video from "The Godfather 2" to better understand this point. In this video, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a brothel owned by the Corleone mafia family.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULcJhIoLte4

    Senator Geary then becomes a huge advocate for Italian-Americans and attempts to derail an investigation into mafia activities. 1 minute video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9VaP5qBgw

    If you substitute in Jews for Italians, this is a realistic model for how America works.

    Jeffrey Epstein was a real-life Jewish version of Michael Corleone.

  51. @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

    It makes me wonder what descendants there are of the 1860 all Aboriginal (and Victorian I think) cricket team that went to England. My recollection is that they were all black. I daresay those that didn’t take to drink and die as alcoholics probably have mow mostly white descendants.

  52. @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

    Price? This is Irish.

    Another confirmation of what I’ve said: the Irish would screw everything that moves, including a rattlesnake if one would hold her head.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I’m sure you meant Welsh.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_(surname)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Ed Case
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not sure if any photos of Bess Price and her husband are out there.
    The couple provide Interpreting services to Government in the Alice Springs region of the Northern Territory, mostly to the Courts.
    She is fluent in a number of the Tribal Languages.
    The Anthropologist Strehlow is the only non Aboriginal to achieve fluency in an Aboriginal Language, he grew up on the Hermannsburg Lutheran Mission, where his father was the Pastor.

    Not pretending to know much about the subject, but one of the difficulties with Aboriginal Languages is that there are many Pronouns and if the correct Pronoun isn't used the communication isn't understandable to the listener.

  53. It is really bloody annoying being locked out of a discussion of my own country because my comments are in moderation for hours on end. I’ve commented long enough that you know I don’t spam, troll or abuse yet still it takes up to a day for each one to be released. It’s just not worth my while. If you only want the same dozen commenters talking to each other on every post, block all the rest of us and be done with it.

  54. Can anyone recommend a decent short book on the Aborigines? Pre-PC if possible. I know vanishingly little about them.

    • Replies: @Drovers Dog
    @JMcG

    Triumph of the Nomads by Geoffrey Blainey

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @Anon
    @JMcG

    Spinifex and Sand by David W Carnegie is loaded with honest and unfiltered observations of very first contacts between real aborigines and whites. https://sydneyuniversitypress.com.au/products/78646

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon

    , @Ed Case
    @JMcG

    Here's some black and white photos taken from Baldwin Spencer's 1894/95 expedition to Central Australia:
    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/baldwin-spencer.html

  55. Seems like Scott might could be leaving out a factor here. Flight from non-white in effect.

    Grading on a curve probably isn’t the best metric. The whole world didn’t do so hot which should lead one to look at institutions that are global whether in theory or practice for those responsible.

  56. Flight? Or Fight?

    Which way, Western man?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Desiderius

    Yeah, the death and arson threats which were actually carried out against Trump's putative supporters and symbols were as but daffodil seeds compated to white parents who want their white children to learn math and not self-hatred in school.

  57. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder how well 23&Me works for aborigines? There are very few full- or nearly-full-blood aborigines alive, and there were various regions where presumably the genes evolved a little differently. I’ve read that about four solid genomes from a region, where the ancestors married locally for two or three generations back, give all the information they need, but these might be hard to find.

    At any rate, if companies can get the data, aboriginal ancestry could be just like Neanderthal ancestry: something you can verify with a cheap test.

    In the U.S. the rules vary widely, federal and local and from place to place, but people who have tried to claim Hispanic ancestry, or even black, for a minority contractor preference, based on a few percent on a 23&Me test, often don’t get very far. There are other barriers, such as a history with the “community.” You might have to have a black minister vouch for you … although that might just amount to six months of church attendance and a generous tithe, in manila envelopes delivered directly to the minister.

  58. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?

    Or, um…Western Europe?

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe – Iceland and Norway – are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.

    The fact that the general health and happiness of so much of the West started to tank just as our leaders turned on the immigration spigot should key us in to the effects of mass immigration.

    Why our leaders are in such a furious rush to surrender our resource advantage is a mystery – apart from the fact that they really don’t give a shit about the general welfare of their countrymen.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person.
     
    Uh...


    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1430308-D3463D6EB0A7ACDAC1256F2D0047FE03-asia_pop.png?itok=HLnHAQx1

    https://cdn.britannica.com/24/71724-050-6979FF57/Population-density-Africa.jpg

    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1470348-E35E39D86033FF0DC1256F2D0047FE2A-europe.png

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Wilkey

    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    Iceland is a large town.

    New Zealand has a GDP per cap about 50% of US and Switzerland Ireland Norway etc.

  59. White flight? Sounds more like fear and self-loathing Down Under.

    When my Aussie friends and colleagues asked what I thought about their country, I used to jokingly reply that it was like California, but without the drive-by shootings. Aussies’ insane push for diversity and White guilt has ticked that last box too.

  60. @Achmed E. Newman
    I've been to the Outback enough times to where they consider me an Abo, or at least I got this one card with which I can travel to the Outback again and upgrade to a 16 oz. sirloin. My problem is not the box ticking - my problem is that artery-clogging food affecting my ticker.

    OK, but seriously, Ronald Reagan surely didn't make up this expression, but if you subsidize something you get more of it, (I like that example with the Navajo.) Why don't more Americans tick the box? As you wrote, the Afro gene is dominant, so it's pretty hard for those with the Danish milk maid look to get away with it. People in general are pretty honest, but you'd figure Aussies would give in to the temptation that is obviously a lot easier to get away with there. For us, the hair curling, lip enhancements and time at the tanning salon add up to a lot of time and money.

    People are pretty honest, but with the anti-White Establishment pushing them around, it's a wonder more haven't pushed to game the system just to fight back Alinsky-style. They should, because this stuff is not just going to stop on its own. If you're gonna do this, wouldn't it be better to just take advantage of the subsidized life, but keep a low profile and not raise any hell about it?

    Or is it that if you are of one of the privileged groups in America, you must speak out against the treatment of your alleged people just to fit in? That could be true in the university departments that the women in these BS majors "work" in. I'm guessing Miss Grieve(ance?) Williams - what an appropriate name - is just jealous of the slightly paler skin and likely more milk-maid-ready features of Miss Ingram. Ohhhh, cat fight, Abo style!

    Replies: @Seneca44, @Wilkey

    Why don’t more Americans tick the box?

    I’ve made this point plenty of times. You should be be honest on the census, because that’s where the government gets its numbers to base its supposedly non-existent quotas.

    On every other form you are asked to fill out you should lie lie lie. On loan applications, on job applications, on standardized tests – anything and everything. Throw a few monkey wrenches into the system. The SAT is never going to come to verify your race. If the college your kid applies to wants a photo just Photoshop it up a bit to make them look a little more ethnic. Banks and most employers don’t care if you lie. In fact, they are happy to be able to report lending to or hiring another minority.

    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left. And until we are we are always going to lose the big battles – even within our own party, where big business controls pretty much everything, and always gets its way.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Wilkey


    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left.
     
    This is tricky. WASPs and those southward in Europe to a slightly decreasing extent have high altruism, a wide radius of trust, strong empathy, high honesty, and a sense of guilt more than of shame (feeling bad that we did something bad, not that we were caught doing something bad).

    We are like the dodos in that we are vulnerable to less scrupulous peoples. But we are good and our lifestyle and nation is the best because of our traits, even though those traits make us easy prey. At the other end of any battle to the death we want to come out with our traits and values intact. I guess the best analogy is WWII: perhaps we have to temporarily turn into savage animals hoping that after victory comes we'll revert to our true nature. I think the destruction of Christianity and other virtuous social institutions make this hard.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  61. The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe – Iceland and Norway – are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.

    Life’s easy when you get to make up your own facts. Republic of Ireland and Luxembourg are the richest countries in Europe, and both have a higher GDP per capita than the USA. Iceland and Norway are fucking ghetto.

    If you think low population density/high resources leads to wealth, you’re probably a high school dropout. Your use of the redneck phrase “sure-fire” further confirms my suspicions. The exorbitant wealth of the 21st century super economies was built through abstract things like ideas and financial instruments, not physical material from the filthy earth. Only unsophisticated, dirty earth people who cannot understand abstract concepts think they need physical stuff to make money.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Johnplywood

    Ireland is a tax haven. American multinationals launder their revenues through there. That activity doesn’t need much land. Just shows that figures aren’t worth much.
    Your last sentence has outed you as a sub-con by the way.

  62. .. the demonized residential schools.

    Government schools.

  63. https://twitter.com/VictoriaGrieveW/photo

    Ivana Trump? You also could cast an over-the-hill Loretta Swit

    “Adjunct Professor RMIT University, Warraimay historian and writer – sex, race and gender – slavery – decolonisation – truth telling – anthropocene – film buff.”

  64. You could never get away with these shenanigans in the US. Oh wait.
    At least these kids had to prove that there was at least some bit of Cherokee ancestry in their lineage. And one of them is even wearing a colorful ethnic dress as evidence.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Alfa158

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ixwIaN7qw

    Old Cherokee song.

    , @Matttt
    @Alfa158

    Maybe I'm way off, but I always pictured Cherokee dress as more or less the way everybody dresses in rural Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Arizona: mostly normal, but a little cowboy. I would guess the older men wear vests and those caps with names of Navy ships a little more than everybody else and the women accessorize with tribal-looking necklaces.

    , @Djkjcgjj
    @Alfa158

    Mixed Indigian/white people can look very white or Indigian, much as with Abo/white. Once they’re over half white, many look simply white, or slightly exotic white.

  65. @Wizard of Oz
    @DCThrowback

    I can add to the flavouring Steve no doubt intended by mentioning Mordie Bromberg as the Federal Court judge. I used to know the former Federal Court judge Ron Merkel who, after early retirement, returned to the Bar and good causes. Unfortunately he was able to catch out Andrew Bolt (a Dutch immigrant who moved from Labor to thoroughgoing Right) in slightly deficient homework on some of the "Aborigines" he implied were on a gravy train. There were a trio of able and amiable Jewish barristers who shared chambers. Unfortunately in his latter day incarnation as a human rights warrior Ron Merkel disgraced himself by bringing the word "Nazi" into his rhetoric. So unlike the Jews I was at school with, champion sprinter [Jewish name] and full forward for our Australian Rules football team and, as our full back, Ron Merkel's older brother- safely ensconced in the textile business I think.

    All this to show that Australia only has enough pretend problems for us to have been able to have moratorium marches (gee! we lost 500 killed in Vietnam" US 60,000) and Freedom Rides while our Aboriginal population is about a quarter of that from China (including diaspra) and India. You might think our few thousand South Sudanese refugees were pulling their weight as violent black African criminals but I have to say that the last one I saw was a slim gorgeous talkative international fashion model eldest of 12 born to her Muslim mother when mother was 14 on the first ABC One on One I had ever watched. She is bi but LBGT and has a wife whom she can be seen kissing on the cover of Vogue or whatever. But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life here until the Chinese stop buying our iron ore at inflated prices or decide to sink our lovely new 1980s stlyle submarines in 2035 when they are delivered.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life

    If you’re referring to Ash Barty, she’s fractionally Aboriginal in blood and 100% Aboriginal in identity. Where you been?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Paperback Writer

    Thanks. Although tennis (both kinds) has been part of my exercising and even competing life I haven't time to spend on watching so merely picked up from the news that a physically white woman had won. Good for her and good for us. What a shame America's problems are not so near non existent!)

  66. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    Asians.

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Supply and Demand

    Thanks for that giant slice of baloney .......sandwiches all around.

  67. Are you sure that’s not Whoopi Goldburg taking in some fast food?

  68. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?

    In Australia, by the sentence of “transportation” for British criminals. The crimes that resulted in transportation were often so trivial that the practice was little more than a scam to extract forced labour. The period of transportation was often 7 years, after which the transportee could return to Britain, but most chose to stay in Australia as free men or women.

  69. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    A good ’80s song and video.

  70. @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

    What white guy looked at that and said, man I got to have me some. Holy crap.

  71. @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    Poli, I sense a bit of snark, but resources such as minerals, fossil fuel, timber and farm land are the answer.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Buffalo Joe

    Poli, I sense a bit of snark, but resources such as minerals, fossil fuel, timber and farm land are the answer.

    So there are no minerals, fossil fuels, timber or farm land on the entire continent of Africa or Australia? None?

  72. @anon
    I'm an Aussie who interacts with pretty authentic Indigenies day to day, and looking at these two -
    The lady at the top, Dr. Victoria Grieve-Williams - I'll give her a pass as having Aboriginal heritage.
    The other lady, Ms Ingram, I would say minimal to almost no Aus Aboriginal background.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @silviosilver, @Boomthorkell

    Her face seems to have that aboriginal broadness, but it being recessive, the otherwise Anglo nature of her skin and appearance made sense.

  73. board member of Mudgin-gal Aboriginal Women’s Corporation

    I met a Mudgin barroom queen in Melb’ne
    She tried to take me outback for a ride
    She had to heave me right across her shoulder
    Which I just can’t seem to chunder off my mind…

    It’s the sti-i-i-i-i-cky beak sheilas
    Gimme, gimme, gimme the dole bludger blues

    Which reminds me… anyone else here have a Dyson Animal vacuum? I swear when it starts up, it’s Bill Wyman’s opening bass note from “Street Fighting Man”. Don’t laugh– Harley Davidson will sue competitors who borrow their engine’s ” melody”. Dyson could easily have licensed it.

    (Still, I can’t hear any bass on YouTube. I’m going by analog vinyl memory.)

  74. Whatever you incentivize you get more of. And if there are only X number of sinecures set aside for “Aboriginals” then the 1/8th Aboriginals are going to try to exclude the 1/16th Aboriginals as not being real enough.

    You are never going to get academic chairs occupied by full blooded Aboriginals because, aside from the fact that there are so few of them remaining, the few pure bloods usually don’t have the kind of IQ associated with the capacity for higher education – their median IQ is 62. This is not a typo. It’s hard to exaggerate how primitive the Aboriginals were. When the Europeans arrived, they were closer to another type of fauna than to what we would recognize as civilized humans. American Indians were intellectual giants compared to them. Aboriginals went about naked as they foraged for grubs and lizards and their dwellings looked something like chimpanzee nests – just a pile of sticks.

    In any case, especially with women, with their use of hair bleach and cosmetics, it’s hard to just blood quantum just from appearance. This is especially true for Aboriginals. Sub-saharan African blood usually remains evident in appearance until it is down to maybe the 1/8th level (and sometimes beyond) but for some strange, poorly understood (at least by me) reason, Aborginal appearance is highly recessive and fades quickly – even half bloods often appear to be fully European.

    • Replies: @Hakan's assistant
    @Jack D

    It's not that mysterious - Aborigines and Europeans (and anyone not Sub-Saharan African) are much more closely related than Sub-Saharan Africans and everyone else are related so it makes sense that when you have intermarriage between these groups the children revert to a "basal Eurasian" type within the first generation and the second generation cements the phenotype. This is why you often have 3/4 white Eurasians with blond hair and light eyes while 3/4 Asian Eurasians are indistinct from other Asians. Since there isn't much genetic distance it doesn't take much admixture to make a particular phenotype predominate.

    , @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack D

    If you give it a bit of thought that 62 figure that Lynn and Vanhenen have publicised is ridiculous. More meaningless than wrong. Ron Unz long ago exposed the deficiencies of Llyn and Vanhenen's work when e.g. they solemnly put forward figures like 82 for the average IQ of the Irish. FWIW a former professor of economics (a blonde blue eyed Jewish retired academic told me that in working on Aboriginal education she had come across a 14 year old Aboriginal girl who was mathematically gifted. Mind you one would expect there to be some differences in Aboriginal brains, as their outstanding eyesight in healthy outback communities attests. But it is not obvious that they didn't solve serious problems of coping with a difficult environment which, moreover, changed a great deal over 60,000 years.

  75. @Wilkey
    @Polistra


    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?
     
    Or, um…Western Europe?

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe - Iceland and Norway - are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.

    The fact that the general health and happiness of so much of the West started to tank just as our leaders turned on the immigration spigot should key us in to the effects of mass immigration.

    Why our leaders are in such a furious rush to surrender our resource advantage is a mystery - apart from the fact that they really don’t give a shit about the general welfare of their countrymen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person.

    Uh…

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bookmarked.

    That may be the most informative map I've ever seen.

    Tufte would be impressed.

    , @Wilkey
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ceteris paribus.

    There is certainly a strong inverse correlation with wealth and population density among Western countries, and possibly all countries.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  76. complaints of two different female Aboriginal-identifying academics about “box-tickers” and “nine-to-five blacks”

    I actually think those two women exhibit some of that typical aboriginal ugliness. (No offense intended.) The second one slightly less than the first. The Euro/American Indian mix is definitely more attractive in women than the aboriginal mix. I drove through a reservation on the east coast (in the Carolinas somewhere) where Indians are much more mixed with white blood than out in the Dakotas, and some of the dark haired women were quite attractive. They also had more positive and engaging expressions on their faces – smiling and such. They appeared to be more prosperous and industrious than western Indians, as well.

  77. Is there a name more Brythonic than Bronwyn Penrith? This is Bronwyn:

    Does she have a sister named Myfanwy? This is her bio:

    https://australian.museum/learn/first-nations/sydney-elders/bronwyn-penrith/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Does she have a sister named Myfanwy?
     
    Does she have a brother named Colin?


    https://media.australian.museum/media/dd/images/Sydney_Elders.1f349f7.width-1600.076715c.jpg
    https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2012/10/25/1b9b24bc-a645-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/powell_03.jpg

     

  78. Steve, you once said that Affirmative Action only worked as well as it did (in the US presumably) because of the honesty of white folks. I assume you’ve given up that idea now?

  79. @Alfa158
    You could never get away with these shenanigans in the US. Oh wait.
    https://connorsstate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cherokee-youth-council.jpg

    At least these kids had to prove that there was at least some bit of Cherokee ancestry in their lineage. And one of them is even wearing a colorful ethnic dress as evidence.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Matttt, @Djkjcgjj

    Old Cherokee song.

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person.
     
    Uh...


    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1430308-D3463D6EB0A7ACDAC1256F2D0047FE03-asia_pop.png?itok=HLnHAQx1

    https://cdn.britannica.com/24/71724-050-6979FF57/Population-density-Africa.jpg

    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1470348-E35E39D86033FF0DC1256F2D0047FE2A-europe.png

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Wilkey

    Bookmarked.

    That may be the most informative map I’ve ever seen.

    Tufte would be impressed.

  81. @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person.
     
    Uh...


    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1430308-D3463D6EB0A7ACDAC1256F2D0047FE03-asia_pop.png?itok=HLnHAQx1

    https://cdn.britannica.com/24/71724-050-6979FF57/Population-density-Africa.jpg

    https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/report-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/1470348-E35E39D86033FF0DC1256F2D0047FE2A-europe.png

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Wilkey

    Ceteris paribus.

    There is certainly a strong inverse correlation with wealth and population density among Western countries, and possibly all countries.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    Ceteris paribus.
     
    Leave the whales out of this!
  82. • Agree: john cronk
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Desiderius

    “What threatens the flat earth theory more than the scientific research into astronomy and geography? Nothing.”

    Spengler's Specter (circa 1300): Lmao This is where you blinkered round earth autistospergs miss the forest for the trees, and why your silly little movement has gone nowhere.

    Replies: @Djkjcgjj

    , @El Dato
    @Desiderius


    No. According to surveys (two published this year), hardly anyone knows anything at all about scientific findings related to intelligence, let alone those dealing with group differences.
     
    That's why dubious IT megacorps are so eager to develop Artificial Group Differences.
  83. @Buffalo Joe
    @Polistra

    Poli, I sense a bit of snark, but resources such as minerals, fossil fuel, timber and farm land are the answer.

    Replies: @anon

    Poli, I sense a bit of snark, but resources such as minerals, fossil fuel, timber and farm land are the answer.

    So there are no minerals, fossil fuels, timber or farm land on the entire continent of Africa or Australia? None?

  84. @Redneck farmer
    The fairly pasty Australian band Midnight Oil released a song last year about how the Abos didn't want Australia colonized.

    Replies: @Polistra, @jamie b.

    Last year? They made their anti-colonial stance clear way back in the 80’s. Who even knew that they’re still around??

  85. @Alfa158
    You could never get away with these shenanigans in the US. Oh wait.
    https://connorsstate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cherokee-youth-council.jpg

    At least these kids had to prove that there was at least some bit of Cherokee ancestry in their lineage. And one of them is even wearing a colorful ethnic dress as evidence.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Matttt, @Djkjcgjj

    Maybe I’m way off, but I always pictured Cherokee dress as more or less the way everybody dresses in rural Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Arizona: mostly normal, but a little cowboy. I would guess the older men wear vests and those caps with names of Navy ships a little more than everybody else and the women accessorize with tribal-looking necklaces.

  86. @Arclight
    Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino - Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn't really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Flip, @Achmed E. Newman

    I had business dealings with a guy with an Irish surname who looked completely white who was an enrolled member of an Indian tribe and got minority set asides.

  87. @Wilkey
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ceteris paribus.

    There is certainly a strong inverse correlation with wealth and population density among Western countries, and possibly all countries.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Ceteris paribus.

    Leave the whales out of this!

  88. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Polistra


    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA’s, without benefit of negro laborers to “build everything” for them?
     
    Or, um…Western Europe?

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe - Iceland and Norway - are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.

    The fact that the general health and happiness of so much of the West started to tank just as our leaders turned on the immigration spigot should key us in to the effects of mass immigration.

    Why our leaders are in such a furious rush to surrender our resource advantage is a mystery - apart from the fact that they really don’t give a shit about the general welfare of their countrymen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Iceland is a large town.

    New Zealand has a GDP per cap about 50% of US and Switzerland Ireland Norway etc.

  89. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Why don’t more Americans tick the box?
     
    I’ve made this point plenty of times. You should be be honest on the census, because that’s where the government gets its numbers to base its supposedly non-existent quotas.

    On every other form you are asked to fill out you should lie lie lie. On loan applications, on job applications, on standardized tests - anything and everything. Throw a few monkey wrenches into the system. The SAT is never going to come to verify your race. If the college your kid applies to wants a photo just Photoshop it up a bit to make them look a little more ethnic. Banks and most employers don’t care if you lie. In fact, they are happy to be able to report lending to or hiring another minority.

    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left. And until we are we are always going to lose the big battles - even within our own party, where big business controls pretty much everything, and always gets its way.

    Replies: @Anon

    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left.

    This is tricky. WASPs and those southward in Europe to a slightly decreasing extent have high altruism, a wide radius of trust, strong empathy, high honesty, and a sense of guilt more than of shame (feeling bad that we did something bad, not that we were caught doing something bad).

    We are like the dodos in that we are vulnerable to less scrupulous peoples. But we are good and our lifestyle and nation is the best because of our traits, even though those traits make us easy prey. At the other end of any battle to the death we want to come out with our traits and values intact. I guess the best analogy is WWII: perhaps we have to temporarily turn into savage animals hoping that after victory comes we’ll revert to our true nature. I think the destruction of Christianity and other virtuous social institutions make this hard.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon

    That's the right attitude, #318. Another analogy would be the Godfather movies where the Corleone family needed a wartime consigliere who was different from the normal consigliere (the guy Tom something or other). That's the thing. We can't keep losing with these attitudes that are great to have in normal times. This is cultural (so far) warfare now, and we need to act like that. We CAN revert, but we'd better make sure we don't until we have a place it's safe to revert in.

  90. @Arclight
    Reminds me of the Sopranos episode in which Tony and the gang meet with the chief of the Mohunks who own a casino - Sylvio comments on how the chief (named Doug Smith) doesn't really look like an Indian and he responds that upon discovering he had a native ancestor like 4 generations back he had a racial awakening.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Flip, @Achmed E. Newman

    Arclight, I know the scene you’re talking about. A few commenters have put it up here before, but I couldn’t find it for the life of me. I don’t know if this is from the same episode – this is from the one with the Columbus Day protests by Indian Chief Del Red Clay here – but it’s pretty good. The realism is hilarious:

    Haha, “… about this protest you’re spearheading, no pun intended.” LOL!

  91. Steve, why no commentcyet about the total collapse of order in south Africa?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Bell

    Because it gets pretty undeniable, if it wasn't already, that the lockdown was a mistake.

  92. And in The Australian, Suzanne Ingram, a Ph.D. student

    Can you spot the junk science red flag?

    There is no such thing as a ‘Ph.D. student.’

    This is journalist’ inflation of credentials. Done to give authority to the subject. Ingram is NOT an authority. She has NOT earned the right to have Ph.D. associated with her.

    We don’t call medical students “doctor students.” You don’t get the “doctor” until AFTER you have graduated.

  93. Anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    Future NFL Hall of Famer Richard Sherman was arrested early this morning in Redmond, Washington for “burglary domestic violence”. He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    From TMZ:

    Sherman was taken down by a police K9 after trying to break into a family member’s home in Redmond, WA before his arrest on Wednesday morning … this according to law enforcement.

    A Redmond Police Department spokesperson tells TMZ Sports the incident all went down at 2 AM.

    According to the spokesperson, officers showed up to a residence in the Redmond area after receiving a call from the occupants inside the home who claimed a family member who did not live there was trying to break in.

    Cops say when they arrived on scene, they identified Sherman as the suspect … and claim he became uncooperative and combative during questioning.

    Sherman allegedly fought with cops so much … we’re told a K9 was deployed to take down the NFL player and help bring him into custody.

    Cops say he was taken to the hospital to be looked at for possible injuries before he was eventually booked at the county jail.

    There’s more … the Redmond P.D. spokesperson also tells us the Washington State Patrol is involved in the case, after Sherman allegedly crashed his vehicle into a cement freeway barrier before he advanced on foot to the home.

    Jail records show Sherman still remains behind bars.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/14/nfl-star-richard-sherman-arrested-for-burglary-domestic-violence-in-county-jail/

    This is surprising.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    "I fought the dog and the dog won,
    I fought the dog and the dog won..."

    , @Barnard
    @Anonymous

    It is? Sherman has always come across as a hotheaded loose cannon type to me. I would guess he will also try to get on the cutting edge of blaming his rage issues on CTE. The surprise would be if Sherman took responsibility for his actions and tried to change his behavior rather than blame systemic racism, the police, CTE, or something else.

    , @Gamecock
    @Anonymous

    I think it surprising. The sports media always characterized Sherman as being very smart.

  94. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Is there a name more Brythonic than Bronwyn Penrith? This is Bronwyn:


    https://media.australian.museum/media/dd/images/Sydney_Elders.1f349f7.width-1600.076715c.jpg


    Does she have a sister named Myfanwy? This is her bio:


    https://australian.museum/learn/first-nations/sydney-elders/bronwyn-penrith/

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Does she have a sister named Myfanwy?

    Does she have a brother named Colin?

    • LOL: Cortes
  95. @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

    That’s true.

    As different as Abos seem from whites, their traits don’t dominate as much in mixtures as black Africans’ traits.

    It makes sense — although they’re very dark-skinned, many have fair hair, even blond, as children.

    Some have very curly hair, but most have merely curly/wavy hair, a texture that is common among around 15% to 25% of whites (my estimate/guess), and none have the extreme kink of black Africans.

    I suspect their skin and eye color, although very dark, is less packed with melanin than black Africans’, making for a more intermediate shade in mixtures. No people except for Europeans, and those related to/mixed with them, have any eye color other than brown or black, not even the fairest-skinned East Asians.

    Their facial features, although seemingly very different from whites, are really just a heavier, more robust (could say “primitive”, but that wouldn’t be nice) version of features that also exist among a sizable minority of whites. Mixtures of Abo/white tend to resemble Polynesians, but with less East Asian input.

  96. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/a_centrism/status/1415190651248029696?s=20

    https://twitter.com/a_centrism/status/1415194562373488645?s=20

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato

    “What threatens the flat earth theory more than the scientific research into astronomy and geography? Nothing.”

    Spengler’s Specter (circa 1300): Lmao This is where you blinkered round earth autistospergs miss the forest for the trees, and why your silly little movement has gone nowhere.

    • Replies: @Djkjcgjj
    @Jack D

    Say no to spheremongering!

  97. I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    • Replies: @anon
    @SafeNow

    If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Andorra.

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @peterike
    @SafeNow


    If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be?
     
    Hungary.
    , @Colin Wright
    @SafeNow

    '...Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)'

    Where have you been?

    It's flogging a dead horse, but we did that some time ago. Israel, of course.

    Replies: @SafeNow

    , @sayless
    @SafeNow

    Switzerland.

    , @sb
    @SafeNow

    There are certainly hard lefties in Australia who think the sun shines out of New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's arse
    I think calling it a movement is a bit of a stretch ( no puns intended )

  98. @Alfa158
    You could never get away with these shenanigans in the US. Oh wait.
    https://connorsstate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cherokee-youth-council.jpg

    At least these kids had to prove that there was at least some bit of Cherokee ancestry in their lineage. And one of them is even wearing a colorful ethnic dress as evidence.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Matttt, @Djkjcgjj

    Mixed Indigian/white people can look very white or Indigian, much as with Abo/white. Once they’re over half white, many look simply white, or slightly exotic white.

  99. Not too many years ago, I remember reading about Aussie grant money being available for current examples of Aboriginal art — including writing, etc.

    ALL of those claiming and winning the prize money were — jews claiming to be Aborigines … and, like some commenters say here, the Aborigines don’t and/or don’t dare really complain about it.

    Big surprise … 

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Anthony Aaron

    Please try and find the source of your recollection. It is hard to believe but it could be very useful if authenticated.

  100. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/a_centrism/status/1415190651248029696?s=20

    https://twitter.com/a_centrism/status/1415194562373488645?s=20

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato

    No. According to surveys (two published this year), hardly anyone knows anything at all about scientific findings related to intelligence, let alone those dealing with group differences.

    That’s why dubious IT megacorps are so eager to develop Artificial Group Differences.

  101. @Jack D
    Whatever you incentivize you get more of. And if there are only X number of sinecures set aside for "Aboriginals" then the 1/8th Aboriginals are going to try to exclude the 1/16th Aboriginals as not being real enough.

    You are never going to get academic chairs occupied by full blooded Aboriginals because, aside from the fact that there are so few of them remaining, the few pure bloods usually don't have the kind of IQ associated with the capacity for higher education - their median IQ is 62. This is not a typo. It's hard to exaggerate how primitive the Aboriginals were. When the Europeans arrived, they were closer to another type of fauna than to what we would recognize as civilized humans. American Indians were intellectual giants compared to them. Aboriginals went about naked as they foraged for grubs and lizards and their dwellings looked something like chimpanzee nests - just a pile of sticks.

    In any case, especially with women, with their use of hair bleach and cosmetics, it's hard to just blood quantum just from appearance. This is especially true for Aboriginals. Sub-saharan African blood usually remains evident in appearance until it is down to maybe the 1/8th level (and sometimes beyond) but for some strange, poorly understood (at least by me) reason, Aborginal appearance is highly recessive and fades quickly - even half bloods often appear to be fully European.

    Replies: @Hakan's assistant, @Wizard of Oz

    It’s not that mysterious – Aborigines and Europeans (and anyone not Sub-Saharan African) are much more closely related than Sub-Saharan Africans and everyone else are related so it makes sense that when you have intermarriage between these groups the children revert to a “basal Eurasian” type within the first generation and the second generation cements the phenotype. This is why you often have 3/4 white Eurasians with blond hair and light eyes while 3/4 Asian Eurasians are indistinct from other Asians. Since there isn’t much genetic distance it doesn’t take much admixture to make a particular phenotype predominate.

  102. @Anonymous
    OT:

    Future NFL Hall of Famer Richard Sherman was arrested early this morning in Redmond, Washington for "burglary domestic violence". He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    From TMZ:


    https://imagez.tmz.com/image/29/4by3/2021/07/14/2961416546fe4a6ea52191261ce5c8e0_md.jpg

    Sherman was taken down by a police K9 after trying to break into a family member's home in Redmond, WA before his arrest on Wednesday morning ... this according to law enforcement.

    A Redmond Police Department spokesperson tells TMZ Sports the incident all went down at 2 AM.

    According to the spokesperson, officers showed up to a residence in the Redmond area after receiving a call from the occupants inside the home who claimed a family member who did not live there was trying to break in.

    Cops say when they arrived on scene, they identified Sherman as the suspect ... and claim he became uncooperative and combative during questioning.

    Sherman allegedly fought with cops so much ... we're told a K9 was deployed to take down the NFL player and help bring him into custody.

    Cops say he was taken to the hospital to be looked at for possible injuries before he was eventually booked at the county jail.

    There's more ... the Redmond P.D. spokesperson also tells us the Washington State Patrol is involved in the case, after Sherman allegedly crashed his vehicle into a cement freeway barrier before he advanced on foot to the home.

    Jail records show Sherman still remains behind bars.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/14/nfl-star-richard-sherman-arrested-for-burglary-domestic-violence-in-county-jail/

     

    This is surprising.

    Replies: @anon, @Barnard, @Gamecock

    He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    “I fought the dog and the dog won,
    I fought the dog and the dog won…”

    • LOL: JMcG
  103. I’ve been a “box ticker” ever since the EEOC rules changed sometime around 2007. It’s an extra layer of protection that I call my “Cocoa Armor”.

    And I’ve been African-American since the 2020 Census. Hopefully that’s all I need to get that sweet reparations gibsmedat that we all know is coming soon.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon215

    Either that or you will be harshly punished for your fakery.

    Replies: @anon215

  104. @SafeNow
    I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Replies: @anon, @peterike, @Colin Wright, @sayless, @sb

    If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Andorra.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @anon

    You better ask Israel before you ask someone else to annex us, it might get mad.

  105. @Supply and Demand
    @Polistra

    Asians.

    Replies: @tyrone

    Thanks for that giant slice of baloney …….sandwiches all around.

  106. Once again it seems as though it’s mostly women involved in passing as minorities, especially “pretendians”. These women are doing more than just checking a box. They are really leaning into the role and reveling in it, almost like a method actor. There is something psychological going on beyond collecting affirmative action benefits.

    Where are the men?

    Men don’t seem to try and pass as minorities as much. The male equivalent seems to be pretending to be military. There is a certain type of guy who will dress up in a phony uniform with phony medals, sometimes show up at military events and concoct an identity. Almost always the story involves pretending to be a hardcore Special Forces/combat arms badass type. It’s more than checking a box to get a Veteran’s hiring preference.

    Apparently a lot of male Western expats in Asia concoct stories of being ex-SAS, Special Forces, Navy Seals etc… in part because no one knows them on the other side of the world.

    The difference between men and women seems to be that women’s phony identity involves depicting themselves as passive blameless victims, and the men as active heroic warriors. Damsels-in-Distress vs Knights-in-Shining-Armour? I don’t know exactly, but it’s definitely psychological.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @eded

    Ward Churchill was a white man who pretended to be an Indian. My favorite factoid about Churchill is that he always used to appear in public, even indoors, wearing dark glasses (and straight shoulder length hair in a sort of Indian cut - in the 60s Warren also had her hair dyed black and parted in the middle in an Indian maiden look. This is when she started checking the American Indian boxes on job applications and such). I used to think he did this to look sort of badass. But then I found out that he has blue eyes. If you look hard enough, it becomes clear that these faux Indians know damn well that they are faking it and are under no delusions themselves. They don't want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @anon

  107. @Anonymous
    OT:

    Future NFL Hall of Famer Richard Sherman was arrested early this morning in Redmond, Washington for "burglary domestic violence". He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    From TMZ:


    https://imagez.tmz.com/image/29/4by3/2021/07/14/2961416546fe4a6ea52191261ce5c8e0_md.jpg

    Sherman was taken down by a police K9 after trying to break into a family member's home in Redmond, WA before his arrest on Wednesday morning ... this according to law enforcement.

    A Redmond Police Department spokesperson tells TMZ Sports the incident all went down at 2 AM.

    According to the spokesperson, officers showed up to a residence in the Redmond area after receiving a call from the occupants inside the home who claimed a family member who did not live there was trying to break in.

    Cops say when they arrived on scene, they identified Sherman as the suspect ... and claim he became uncooperative and combative during questioning.

    Sherman allegedly fought with cops so much ... we're told a K9 was deployed to take down the NFL player and help bring him into custody.

    Cops say he was taken to the hospital to be looked at for possible injuries before he was eventually booked at the county jail.

    There's more ... the Redmond P.D. spokesperson also tells us the Washington State Patrol is involved in the case, after Sherman allegedly crashed his vehicle into a cement freeway barrier before he advanced on foot to the home.

    Jail records show Sherman still remains behind bars.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/14/nfl-star-richard-sherman-arrested-for-burglary-domestic-violence-in-county-jail/

     

    This is surprising.

    Replies: @anon, @Barnard, @Gamecock

    It is? Sherman has always come across as a hotheaded loose cannon type to me. I would guess he will also try to get on the cutting edge of blaming his rage issues on CTE. The surprise would be if Sherman took responsibility for his actions and tried to change his behavior rather than blame systemic racism, the police, CTE, or something else.

  108. Anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, have you or anyone else on this forum noticed a that Aboriginals seems to have decent verbal IQ for their supposedly astonishingly low IQ scores?

    From the available videos on YouTube I found that even even the more pure aboriginals seems to have better speech than some of the most ghetto black Americans.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    The Aboriginal accent can be charming. The Abo child actor in Baz Luhrman's "Australia" was wonderful, but critics deplored his accent as "stereotypical."

    , @Djkjcgjj
    @Anon

    Almost everyone is “smarter” verbally than mathematically. Almost anyone can learn two or more languages, at at least if raised with them. English majors do better in English than engineering majors, but engineering majors do better in English than English majors do in math. Most educated, or just well-read, people can sound intelligent on a variety of topics, but math is what separates the sheep from the goats — I am a goat.

  109. On BBC1 this evening, in the celebrity genealogy series, Who Do You Think You Are?, actress Olivia Colman travels to India to find out more about her great-great-great grandmother. I think this means that she’s 1/32nd Indian.

  110. @PiltdownMan
    @Drovers Dog

    Judging from that picture of Jacinta Price and her mother, Bess, in that Sydney Morning Herald article, Australian Aborigines do tend to white within a generation or two, upon intermarriage, as Mr. Sailer points out in his Takimag article.

    https://i.imgur.com/V7hOWlt.jpg

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conservative-indigenous-activist-jacinta-price-emerges-victorious-in-nt-preselection-battle-20210626-p584iz.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Bardon Kaldian, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Djkjcgjj, @Svevlad

    they got genetically bottlenecked at some point so their genes are really recessive

    plus they’re despite the isolation in the same continuum as eurasians. Africans are ludicrously remote genetically in comparison.

  111. @PaceLaw
    It’s curious that there was no mention of DNA tests (don’t they have Ancestry DNA in Australia?), which would surely clarify who is and who isn’t aborigine. Heck, Elizabeth Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.

    Replies: @Jack D, @sb

    Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.

    Warren pulled back on the Indian bullshit not for the reason that you think. The initial spin in the Democrat controlled MSM was positive for Warren – “DNA Tests Prove that Warren has Native American Ancestry! Trump Lied!” You might think that this is ludicrous but the Left has the clout to pull this off.

    However, what caused her to back off was criticism from Native American tribes themselves. According to them, being an Indian is a matter of tribal enrollment (and Warren is not enrolled in any tribe). DNA is the white man’s science and has nothing to do with being Indian.

    The latter is very convenient for many tribal leaders who look awfully damn white (especially in Eastern tribes with lucrative casino franchises). Or in some cases, black. The last thing that they want is to be DNA tested – they might not do any better than Warren.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Jack D

    Or they're asserting their sovereignty against your individualist universalism?

    Not everything's a conspiracy against the white man

    Replies: @Jack D

  112. @SafeNow
    I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Replies: @anon, @peterike, @Colin Wright, @sayless, @sb

    If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be?

    Hungary.

  113. @Johnplywood

    The reality is that more land and resources per person is a sure-fire winner when it comes to real wealth per person. The USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are richer than our European cousins. And the richest countries in Europe – Iceland and Norway – are pretty sparsely populated, by European standards.
     
    Life's easy when you get to make up your own facts. Republic of Ireland and Luxembourg are the richest countries in Europe, and both have a higher GDP per capita than the USA. Iceland and Norway are fucking ghetto.

    http://res.heraldm.com/phpwas/restmb_idxmake.php?idx=601&simg=%2Fcontent%2Fimage%2F2020%2F04%2F28%2F20200428000281_0.jpg


    If you think low population density/high resources leads to wealth, you're probably a high school dropout. Your use of the redneck phrase "sure-fire" further confirms my suspicions. The exorbitant wealth of the 21st century super economies was built through abstract things like ideas and financial instruments, not physical material from the filthy earth. Only unsophisticated, dirty earth people who cannot understand abstract concepts think they need physical stuff to make money.

    Replies: @JMcG

    Ireland is a tax haven. American multinationals launder their revenues through there. That activity doesn’t need much land. Just shows that figures aren’t worth much.
    Your last sentence has outed you as a sub-con by the way.

  114. @eded
    Once again it seems as though it's mostly women involved in passing as minorities, especially "pretendians". These women are doing more than just checking a box. They are really leaning into the role and reveling in it, almost like a method actor. There is something psychological going on beyond collecting affirmative action benefits.

    Where are the men?

    Men don't seem to try and pass as minorities as much. The male equivalent seems to be pretending to be military. There is a certain type of guy who will dress up in a phony uniform with phony medals, sometimes show up at military events and concoct an identity. Almost always the story involves pretending to be a hardcore Special Forces/combat arms badass type. It's more than checking a box to get a Veteran's hiring preference.

    Apparently a lot of male Western expats in Asia concoct stories of being ex-SAS, Special Forces, Navy Seals etc... in part because no one knows them on the other side of the world.

    The difference between men and women seems to be that women's phony identity involves depicting themselves as passive blameless victims, and the men as active heroic warriors. Damsels-in-Distress vs Knights-in-Shining-Armour? I don't know exactly, but it's definitely psychological.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Ward Churchill was a white man who pretended to be an Indian. My favorite factoid about Churchill is that he always used to appear in public, even indoors, wearing dark glasses (and straight shoulder length hair in a sort of Indian cut – in the 60s Warren also had her hair dyed black and parted in the middle in an Indian maiden look. This is when she started checking the American Indian boxes on job applications and such). I used to think he did this to look sort of badass. But then I found out that he has blue eyes. If you look hard enough, it becomes clear that these faux Indians know damn well that they are faking it and are under no delusions themselves. They don’t want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Jack D

    '...They don’t want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.'

    The irony is that I know one girl making her way up the modern American academic greasy pole who really is one-half Salvadorean.

    She keeps getting offered goodies if only she will admit it, but so far, she's resisted. She wants to earn her prizes.

    , @anon
    @Jack D

    Sorry Jack but you don't belong here and Elizebeth Warren has more right to be here than you. Oh and the tall whites were here way back, before they were used and killed. Just like they are used and now. I bet all those people who make money off JFK never really thought that he went into the Manna machine and his blood and spirit, his energy is supporting the others while they write books and speculate on his death, look how long he has lasted along with the others like Jesus .All those tombs, death chambers, blood sacrifices, all those stone walls while they suck the last vestiges of your soul and existence for their gain. But then I am always cursed to spend my existence here trying to tell you, this is my planet after-all.

  115. I make that first one as about one-eighth aborigine. The other one as less.

    Real-real aborigines, of course (and like real-real) blacks are simply incapable of taking advantage of all the privilege showering down on them, and don’t benefit at all.

    All this crap benefits an artificial elite of no actual merit whatsoever, whilst demoralizing everybody else.

  116. @anon
    @SafeNow

    If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Andorra.

    Replies: @JMcG

    You better ask Israel before you ask someone else to annex us, it might get mad.

  117. @SafeNow
    I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Replies: @anon, @peterike, @Colin Wright, @sayless, @sb

    ‘…Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)’

    Where have you been?

    It’s flogging a dead horse, but we did that some time ago. Israel, of course.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Colin Wright

    Sorry, I missed it. Thanks for telling me.
    I am surprised the consensus on this site was Israel… Maybe you were being sarcastic

  118. @Jack D
    @eded

    Ward Churchill was a white man who pretended to be an Indian. My favorite factoid about Churchill is that he always used to appear in public, even indoors, wearing dark glasses (and straight shoulder length hair in a sort of Indian cut - in the 60s Warren also had her hair dyed black and parted in the middle in an Indian maiden look. This is when she started checking the American Indian boxes on job applications and such). I used to think he did this to look sort of badass. But then I found out that he has blue eyes. If you look hard enough, it becomes clear that these faux Indians know damn well that they are faking it and are under no delusions themselves. They don't want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @anon

    ‘…They don’t want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.’

    The irony is that I know one girl making her way up the modern American academic greasy pole who really is one-half Salvadorean.

    She keeps getting offered goodies if only she will admit it, but so far, she’s resisted. She wants to earn her prizes.

  119. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:

    White-looking ‘Hawaiians’ often dwell on politics of pride.

    White-looking ‘Aborigines’ often dwell on politics of shame.

    I guess more fun in playing Hawaiian.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Anonymous

    'White-looking ‘Hawaiians’ often dwell on politics of pride...'

    The bumph surrounding 'Hawaiians' is irritating too -- but in a different way.

    There's a fair amount of Hawaiian DNA floating around the Aloha state, but 'Hawaiians' aren't really who are there.

    It's 'locals' -- who shade off into various groups but are generally kind of a porridge of Japanese, White, 'Portuguese,' Chinese, Filipino, and...yes...Hawaiian.

    The thing is, there's a very visible -- and very definitely not mainland -- culture there, but it's largely inarticulate. Instead, all discussion circles round and round about the 'Hawaiians.' It's kind of missing the target.

  120. @anon215
    I've been a "box ticker" ever since the EEOC rules changed sometime around 2007. It's an extra layer of protection that I call my "Cocoa Armor".

    And I've been African-American since the 2020 Census. Hopefully that's all I need to get that sweet reparations gibsmedat that we all know is coming soon.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Either that or you will be harshly punished for your fakery.

    • Replies: @anon215
    @Jack D

    My HR department asked me how I choose to identify (EEOC rules currently allow employees to self-identify, rather than what they used to do prior to 2007 - a "visual survey"). I choose to identify as African-American. Let them try to fire a black man!

  121. @Desiderius
    Flight? Or Fight?

    https://twitter.com/armor123123/status/1415298921367212033?s=20

    Which way, Western man?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Yeah, the death and arson threats which were actually carried out against Trump’s putative supporters and symbols were as but daffodil seeds compated to white parents who want their white children to learn math and not self-hatred in school.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  122. Let me propose a kind of “trial by fire” to see if those blonde blue-eyed chicks are really Abos. That lizard the Abo woman is holding in the picture is used as a water bottle in the bush. They drink its blood. If those blonde chicks will do the same, I will concede the point.

  123. Social Studies teacher, decorated Army Ranger, nobody has a criminal record or was armed.

    We sent our best and all they see are terrorists.

    Well, they’re terrified alright. The wicked flee when none pursueth.

    If they were trying to destroy the credibility of the system what would they be doing differently?

  124. @Bell
    Steve, why no commentcyet about the total collapse of order in south Africa?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Because it gets pretty undeniable, if it wasn’t already, that the lockdown was a mistake.

  125. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny how POC’s think they have a right to Aboriginal or Indian Land just because their skin isn’t white. I probably have more American Indian blood in me than they do and I’m white. Yet they all lay claim to a land they say we whites stole and that it belongs to the First Nations, yet none of them are willing to leave and let the First Nations have it. What about the Hawaiians, do they claim the Africans as their people and that the Africans should have the land?

  126. @Anonymous
    OT:

    Future NFL Hall of Famer Richard Sherman was arrested early this morning in Redmond, Washington for "burglary domestic violence". He fought with cops and had a K9 take him down.

    From TMZ:


    https://imagez.tmz.com/image/29/4by3/2021/07/14/2961416546fe4a6ea52191261ce5c8e0_md.jpg

    Sherman was taken down by a police K9 after trying to break into a family member's home in Redmond, WA before his arrest on Wednesday morning ... this according to law enforcement.

    A Redmond Police Department spokesperson tells TMZ Sports the incident all went down at 2 AM.

    According to the spokesperson, officers showed up to a residence in the Redmond area after receiving a call from the occupants inside the home who claimed a family member who did not live there was trying to break in.

    Cops say when they arrived on scene, they identified Sherman as the suspect ... and claim he became uncooperative and combative during questioning.

    Sherman allegedly fought with cops so much ... we're told a K9 was deployed to take down the NFL player and help bring him into custody.

    Cops say he was taken to the hospital to be looked at for possible injuries before he was eventually booked at the county jail.

    There's more ... the Redmond P.D. spokesperson also tells us the Washington State Patrol is involved in the case, after Sherman allegedly crashed his vehicle into a cement freeway barrier before he advanced on foot to the home.

    Jail records show Sherman still remains behind bars.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/14/nfl-star-richard-sherman-arrested-for-burglary-domestic-violence-in-county-jail/

     

    This is surprising.

    Replies: @anon, @Barnard, @Gamecock

    I think it surprising. The sports media always characterized Sherman as being very smart.

  127. They’re not physically changing their phenotype.
    Not everything is an exercise in ideology nerd.

    Whites are just like dalit Adivasis
    Gotta fuck the savage out em’

    🤷🏼‍♀️

  128. @Jack D
    @PaceLaw


    Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.
     
    Warren pulled back on the Indian bullshit not for the reason that you think. The initial spin in the Democrat controlled MSM was positive for Warren - "DNA Tests Prove that Warren has Native American Ancestry! Trump Lied!" You might think that this is ludicrous but the Left has the clout to pull this off.

    However, what caused her to back off was criticism from Native American tribes themselves. According to them, being an Indian is a matter of tribal enrollment (and Warren is not enrolled in any tribe). DNA is the white man's science and has nothing to do with being Indian.

    The latter is very convenient for many tribal leaders who look awfully damn white (especially in Eastern tribes with lucrative casino franchises). Or in some cases, black. The last thing that they want is to be DNA tested - they might not do any better than Warren.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    Or they’re asserting their sovereignty against your individualist universalism?

    Not everything’s a conspiracy against the white man

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jatt Aryaa


    they’re asserting their sovereignty against your individualist universalism?
     
    What does that even mean? It's just word salad. There is objective reality and then there isn't. An Indian is a person descended from the aboriginal natives of North America. If you say that a white man can be an Indian or a man can be a woman or whatever, you're not asserting sovereignty, you're asserting lies and nine times out of ten for the most cynical, pecuniary reasons. If you choose to fall for that kind of bullshit, that's not being anti-racist, it's being gullible. I'm not interested in being played for a chump.
  129. @Jack D
    @anon215

    Either that or you will be harshly punished for your fakery.

    Replies: @anon215

    My HR department asked me how I choose to identify (EEOC rules currently allow employees to self-identify, rather than what they used to do prior to 2007 – a “visual survey”). I choose to identify as African-American. Let them try to fire a black man!

  130. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @eded

    Ward Churchill was a white man who pretended to be an Indian. My favorite factoid about Churchill is that he always used to appear in public, even indoors, wearing dark glasses (and straight shoulder length hair in a sort of Indian cut - in the 60s Warren also had her hair dyed black and parted in the middle in an Indian maiden look. This is when she started checking the American Indian boxes on job applications and such). I used to think he did this to look sort of badass. But then I found out that he has blue eyes. If you look hard enough, it becomes clear that these faux Indians know damn well that they are faking it and are under no delusions themselves. They don't want to fool themselves, they want to fool YOU and collect the gibmedats that come with minority status in modern day America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @anon

    Sorry Jack but you don’t belong here and Elizebeth Warren has more right to be here than you. Oh and the tall whites were here way back, before they were used and killed. Just like they are used and now. I bet all those people who make money off JFK never really thought that he went into the Manna machine and his blood and spirit, his energy is supporting the others while they write books and speculate on his death, look how long he has lasted along with the others like Jesus .All those tombs, death chambers, blood sacrifices, all those stone walls while they suck the last vestiges of your soul and existence for their gain. But then I am always cursed to spend my existence here trying to tell you, this is my planet after-all.

  131. I now live in Australia, but during our last vacation in the New Zealand, we went into a vegan cafe in Napier. It was full of minimally Maori women following the latest fad and having a Polynesian facial tattoo.

    The menu was a perfcct insight into the world of trite cliches that they live by. For non-Kiwis, kai is the Maori word for food. I have no idea what “integrity-dense” could mean.

    Hapi is a way of living that celebrates diversity in eating styles and we believe everything you eat should taste and feel delicious. Our food is our medicine, our medicine is our food.

    We produce integrity dense kai that caters to gluten free, dairy free, cane-sugar free, vegan, paleo and organic diets. Find our kai at our Napier take-out spot, local farmers markets or order online NOW!

    Hawkes Bay is a perfect microcosm of the West. Liberal white weed-smokers in Napier, Conservative whites in Havelock North, Hastings a mixed community, Flaxmere largely Polynesian.

    I’d rather live in Havelock North.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @22pp22

    you just sound like a jealous deplorable.

    , @Gamecock
    @22pp22

    10-4, 22pp22.

    Watching an LPGA golf tournament this evening. Sponsored by Dow Inclusive and Sustainability.

    No mention of producing world class chemicals of utmost quality at reasonable prices. No, their big exec proudly proclaims they are inclusive and sustainable. Then hands the microphone to a token POC. Who surely knows her job is to be a POC. She's there for no other reason, and she HAS TO know it.

  132. @22pp22
    I now live in Australia, but during our last vacation in the New Zealand, we went into a vegan cafe in Napier. It was full of minimally Maori women following the latest fad and having a Polynesian facial tattoo.

    The menu was a perfcct insight into the world of trite cliches that they live by. For non-Kiwis, kai is the Maori word for food. I have no idea what "integrity-dense" could mean.

    Hapi is a way of living that celebrates diversity in eating styles and we believe everything you eat should taste and feel delicious. Our food is our medicine, our medicine is our food.

    We produce integrity dense kai that caters to gluten free, dairy free, cane-sugar free, vegan, paleo and organic diets. Find our kai at our Napier take-out spot, local farmers markets or order online NOW!

    Hawkes Bay is a perfect microcosm of the West. Liberal white weed-smokers in Napier, Conservative whites in Havelock North, Hastings a mixed community, Flaxmere largely Polynesian.

    I'd rather live in Havelock North.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Gamecock

    you just sound like a jealous deplorable.

  133. @Anon
    Steve, have you or anyone else on this forum noticed a that Aboriginals seems to have decent verbal IQ for their supposedly astonishingly low IQ scores?

    From the available videos on YouTube I found that even even the more pure aboriginals seems to have better speech than some of the most ghetto black Americans.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Djkjcgjj

    The Aboriginal accent can be charming. The Abo child actor in Baz Luhrman’s “Australia” was wonderful, but critics deplored his accent as “stereotypical.”

  134. Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.
     
    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.

    I agree that SA is--nominally--another wakeup call for the West, for white people.

    But really, how many "wake up calls" do you need. It's obvious that diversity causes contention and conflict--always has, always will. And that white people who allow their nation to be packed with foreign peoples--much less blacks!!!--are in for a world of hurt. All of history and just basic common sense should suffice to get the message across ... yet white people can't rouse themselves.

    In my--simplistic--way of thinking the Boers have had three opportunities to prevent this:
    1) Conquest. Avoid diversity on startup--settle SA by driving off the natives, instead of using their labor.
    2) Nationalism. After independence, or the National Party coming to power, or forming the Republic, the Boer could have made an effort to separate themselves from blacks geographically into a white (and probably a separate "colored") ethnostate, pursue high fertility and rely on their own labor. Instead they chose to institute apartheid and relied on black labor.
    3) Separation. When apartheid became untenable, the Boer could have chosen to give up most of their territory, but separate Boer Republic in the Western Cape that would have a credible future. Instead they chose to try and hang onto all their farms and mines and businesses and accept "multi-racial democracy"--i.e. rule by blacks.

    Three times the Boer had a chance to build a credible future for their posterity with their own labor ... and three times they submitted to the siren call of "more loot" with "cheap labor".

    South Africa is just a big flashing red bill board warning about submitting to "cheap labor" and "diversity".

    Western nations needs to pay heed, shuck off the Jewish minoritarian/immigrationist propaganda/ideology flowing from America, close borders, integrate what you can, expel what you can't and preserve their nations.

    Are the people of any Western nation going to look at SA and correct? Sadly, no.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

  135. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Jack D

    Or they're asserting their sovereignty against your individualist universalism?

    Not everything's a conspiracy against the white man

    Replies: @Jack D

    they’re asserting their sovereignty against your individualist universalism?

    What does that even mean? It’s just word salad. There is objective reality and then there isn’t. An Indian is a person descended from the aboriginal natives of North America. If you say that a white man can be an Indian or a man can be a woman or whatever, you’re not asserting sovereignty, you’re asserting lies and nine times out of ten for the most cynical, pecuniary reasons. If you choose to fall for that kind of bullshit, that’s not being anti-racist, it’s being gullible. I’m not interested in being played for a chump.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  136. @Colin Wright
    @SafeNow

    '...Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)'

    Where have you been?

    It's flogging a dead horse, but we did that some time ago. Israel, of course.

    Replies: @SafeNow

    Sorry, I missed it. Thanks for telling me.
    I am surprised the consensus on this site was Israel… Maybe you were being sarcastic

  137. and Ingram resembles a Danish milkmaid.

    "Danish milkmaid" is a damn good look. If i had to spend my life surrounded by Danish milkmaids … this would not be hell.

    On the hand, full Australian Aboriginals are perhaps the ugliest looking people on the planet. (I'll grant that in the before time–before abundant Western calories arrived–they might have looked a bit better. Still the mixes are proof guys without options really will put their penis in anything.)

    There may be full Sub-Saharan Africans who are uglier. But overall i think even SSA are better looking people than the Abos.

    Ancient man–not a good looking critter.

    It's interesting how hard a break there is. I can look at people from pretty much any of the civilized races–Europeans, Persians, Indians, East Asians–and usually find at least some element of attractiveness. (Though plenty of ugly people in all groups.) In contrast–abos, blacks, Melanesians, uh, pass. I don't know how much of that is just subjective. Perhaps there is some sort of commonality to the way selection proceeds as people settle, do agriculture and develop civilization?

  138. @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    Price? This is Irish.

    Another confirmation of what I've said: the Irish would screw everything that moves, including a rattlesnake if one would hold her head.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Ed Case

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Cortes

    You're right. I was mislead by the IRA terrorist Dolours Price. Abo daddy could be either Welsh or Irish (or anything "British").

  139. @Anon
    Someone posted a series of screenshots from 4chan.org/pol/. Wikipedia describes this discussion board as follows:

    /pol/, short for "politically incorrect", is a political discussion board on 4chan. The board has been noted for its racist, white supremacist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and transphobic content. The board serves partly as a "containment" area on 4chan: a place to divert trolls and extremists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/
     
    Ahem.

    Of course, Unz.com is described by Wikipedia as promoting "anti-semitism, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theories, and white supremacist material" and Steve Sailer doesn't do much better.

    A series of IQ-related screen shots from /pol/ were posted on Twitter recently and got quite a few retweets. The images reproduced comments by an anonymous member who claimed to have been a psychology student working at San Quentin interviewing inmates, most of whom were low IQ. He related some specific cognitive difficulties that such people have, and I found it pretty interesting, although I haven't been able to find much specific confirmation of the claims online.

    I put the images through an online OCR converter, changed the lowercase L's to uppercase I's, added some subtitles, and did some other cleanup, and here's the result:

    COMPREHENSION OF CONDITIONAL HYPOTHETICALS

    I did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of this stuff. Did you know that most people (95 percent plus) with less than a 90 IQ cannot understand conditional hypotheticals?

    For example:

    "How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?"

    "What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch."

    "Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?"

    "Why are you saying that I didn't eat breakfast? I just told you that I did."

    "Imagine that you hadn't eaten it, though. How would you have felt?"

    "I don't understand the question."

    lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They're absolute fucking retards, at least 50 percent illiterate.

    PRODUCTION OF RECURSIVE STORIES

    Another interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.

    For example:

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    In this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    If you have less than a 90 IQ, this second exercise is basically completely impossible.

    Add a third level ("frame") to the story, and even IQ 100s start to get mixed up with the names and who is talking.

    It turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!

    AWARENESS OF TIME AND RECOGNITION OF ANACHRONISMS

    Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80s. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past, and can't plan for the future at all.

    Sub 90s struggle with anachronism too. For example, I remember the 80-85s stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.

    For instance:

    "Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn't use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?"

    "I guess they didn't want to get hacked by Nazis?"

    Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.

    Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100 plus IQs have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like "Memento" strains them a little.

    Recursion was definitely the killer, though.

    Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren't too many of those!)

    EMPATHY AND SOCIOPATHIC AND PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR

    It's the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQs are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don't have the mental computing power to model other people's thoughts and feelings. I've seen it over and over with convicts.

    "How do you think that man felt when you beat him?"

    "Dunno."

    "How do you think that boy's mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?"

    "Dunno."

    lt comes across as psychopathic, but these people literally don't have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else's mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past.

    ABSTRACT COGNITIVE MAPPING

    I forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is "mapping." This is, basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.

    For example:

    "Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.

    "Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the street and the highest number being at the exit.

    "If you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?"

    This question really isn't tricky for most 100 plusers. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the "mapping"": that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.

    However, for sub-90s, this stuff is really difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80s just can't do it at all.

    Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can't learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes), even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.

    MATHEMATICS

    Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it is heavily decided by IQ. That's a bit tautological, since it's a principal IQ measurement, but you know what I mean.

    NARCISSISM

    As for the criminal narcissists etc: I honestly don't know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you're smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.

    I suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it's like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don't have the "hardware" for empathy.

    That's it.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @Peter Akuleyev

    “Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn’t use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?”

    “I guess they didn’t want to get hacked by Nazis?”

    Their Enigma code was ultimately breakable thanks to the anally-retentive schoolboy error that a letter couldn’t represent itself. I can imagine the morons and imbeciles in San Quentin would be the first to ask, “Why not?”

    The Brits eliminated this flaw in their Bombe knockoff, and the Germans did find that unbreakable. Let Dr Grime at Numberphile explain the details:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    I love the sister channel of Numberphile, Computerphile, especially the segments hosted by the wry, fraying-at-the-edges Kyle MacLachlan lookalike Dr. Mike Pound. In the following video he tries to brute force the Enigma machine with a modern laptop:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzWB5jL5RX0

    The off-camera Ed McMahon-like sidekick is old-timer Professor Dave Brailsford, who is a Zelig-type character who seems to have been on the scene of every major computer breakthrough and who knew anyone who was anyone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyKAXsMI-Zs

  140. @Paperback Writer
    Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.

    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.

    I agree that SA is–nominally–another wakeup call for the West, for white people.

    But really, how many “wake up calls” do you need. It’s obvious that diversity causes contention and conflict–always has, always will. And that white people who allow their nation to be packed with foreign peoples–much less blacks!!!–are in for a world of hurt. All of history and just basic common sense should suffice to get the message across … yet white people can’t rouse themselves.

    In my–simplistic–way of thinking the Boers have had three opportunities to prevent this:
    1) Conquest. Avoid diversity on startup–settle SA by driving off the natives, instead of using their labor.
    2) Nationalism. After independence, or the National Party coming to power, or forming the Republic, the Boer could have made an effort to separate themselves from blacks geographically into a white (and probably a separate “colored”) ethnostate, pursue high fertility and rely on their own labor. Instead they chose to institute apartheid and relied on black labor.
    3) Separation. When apartheid became untenable, the Boer could have chosen to give up most of their territory, but separate Boer Republic in the Western Cape that would have a credible future. Instead they chose to try and hang onto all their farms and mines and businesses and accept “multi-racial democracy”–i.e. rule by blacks.

    Three times the Boer had a chance to build a credible future for their posterity with their own labor … and three times they submitted to the siren call of “more loot” with “cheap labor”.

    South Africa is just a big flashing red bill board warning about submitting to “cheap labor” and “diversity”.

    Western nations needs to pay heed, shuck off the Jewish minoritarian/immigrationist propaganda/ideology flowing from America, close borders, integrate what you can, expel what you can’t and preserve their nations.

    Are the people of any Western nation going to look at SA and correct? Sadly, no.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @AnotherDad

    I don't know what Sailer could say. His brilliance is beyond my puny ability to comprehend.

    Agree that the writing's been on the wall since 1994, but when the letters come into such sharp focus as they have in the last few days, I expect someone here to read the words. It's more important than football or Aborigines, at least, in my book it is.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.
     
    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door. Grand apartheid, like relegation-and-promotion, only works if you establish it at the very beginning. After that, it's almost impossible to retrofit.

    Replies: @anon

  141. @22pp22
    I now live in Australia, but during our last vacation in the New Zealand, we went into a vegan cafe in Napier. It was full of minimally Maori women following the latest fad and having a Polynesian facial tattoo.

    The menu was a perfcct insight into the world of trite cliches that they live by. For non-Kiwis, kai is the Maori word for food. I have no idea what "integrity-dense" could mean.

    Hapi is a way of living that celebrates diversity in eating styles and we believe everything you eat should taste and feel delicious. Our food is our medicine, our medicine is our food.

    We produce integrity dense kai that caters to gluten free, dairy free, cane-sugar free, vegan, paleo and organic diets. Find our kai at our Napier take-out spot, local farmers markets or order online NOW!

    Hawkes Bay is a perfect microcosm of the West. Liberal white weed-smokers in Napier, Conservative whites in Havelock North, Hastings a mixed community, Flaxmere largely Polynesian.

    I'd rather live in Havelock North.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Gamecock

    10-4, 22pp22.

    Watching an LPGA golf tournament this evening. Sponsored by Dow Inclusive and Sustainability.

    No mention of producing world class chemicals of utmost quality at reasonable prices. No, their big exec proudly proclaims they are inclusive and sustainable. Then hands the microphone to a token POC. Who surely knows her job is to be a POC. She’s there for no other reason, and she HAS TO know it.

  142. @Emblematic
    I thought the article was going to somehow end up talking about Ash Barty, the young Australian lady who has just won the women's title at the Wimbledon tennis championships.

    The modern custom of everyone treating white looking people as aboriginal, and doing so with a completely straight face, is perfectly represented in the case of Ms Barty. To me she just looks like a regular white person, with perhaps a tiny suggestion of something else if you really squint. But everyone, herself included, insists she's 'indigenous'.

    Winning at sport takes actual talent, so I guess it's not as funny as white fake-aborigines competing with each other for jobs in the diversity industry.

    But I wonder how much 25 year old Ash Barty's decision to identify as aboriginal is due to pressure from the media and current fashion rather than what feels natural to herself. If you're only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    If you’re only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?

    Leaving aside that part-natives doget [] extra reward“, the reason that an individual might ‘up-rate’ their aboriginality might be as simple as the aboriginal ancestor being a good role model.

    My maternal grandfather was Maori; if he had been a violent drunken asshole, I would be less conscious of his role in shaping my character. He contributed genetically; through his role in being my mother’s father; and through his exemplary treatment of me when I lived with them for a year.

    It also makes me larf when dumb cunts propose Blood Quantum as the proper basis for membership of a culture. For example: Maori had slaves (taurekareka); manumitted slaves were full members of the tribe; hence it was – and is – entirely possible for a full member of a tribe to have literally 100% Euromutt DNA.

    There is at least one famous rangatira (chief) who had a son-in-law who was originally a white slave, who was manumitted after acquitting himself well and was permitted to marry the rangatira’s dughter. The son-in-law was one of the first recognised Pakeha Maori: Jacky Marmon – originally an Australian, who was captured by Nga Puhi in the mid-1820s.

    Of course it helps that maoritanga is fucking awesome; “whanau and whenua” is as close to “blood and soil” as you can get – which is why Maori have a history of forcing pakeha to respect mana whenua. Still and all, the moment you’re accepted into the iwi, you are part of whanau, so the “blood” bit is not a necessary condition, you numpties. (Contrast that with the lot that faced a manumitted slave in the US or the Caribbean).

    Whites are in New Zealand on the basis of a treaty that was negotiated and executed in bad faith by the English (e.g., deliberate textual differences between the Maori and English versions of the text, that enable English-law interpretations that are wildly at variance with Maori intentions).

    The treaty was also reneged upon within a decade (like so many treaties in so many places); the exceptio non adimplenti contractus (and the overarching maxim frangenti fidem fides frangatur iedem) are two concepts from Common Law that should properly apply. Maori properly owe no allegiance to the New Zealand government until it remedies the breach and compensates the tribes – a process that the NZ government has fought tooth and nail since the 1860s, but one which it will inevitably lose.

    Utu, bitches.

    It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the people who navigated 5000km across open ocean in canoes – at a time when Whites were just beginning the non-coast-hugging bits of the Age of Exploration – turn out to have a few clues.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Kratoklastes

    Maori culture never strikes me as that great, with rampant domestic violence, organized crime, obesity and alcoholism. They ate the Morioris, so spare me the self-righteous posturing.

    Maori are over-represented in the jails and almost non-existent in the medical and engineering professions.

    Up north, where people are very visibly Maori, they are not doing well despite everything the government does for them. The Ngai Tahu who have really done well from the Treaty reparations are very barely Maori either physically or culturally. The Ngai Tahu dialect is extinct.

    The poverty map of New Zealand is effectively an ethnic map.

    Maori in Australia, where they get no special treatment, are doing far better. They are thicker on the ground in parts of Brisbane than they are over most of the South Island. That may because they are less bitter and twisted that those left behind in Porirua.

    https://polemic.nz/assets/maps/20141128-NZ-Deprivation-Index.png

    , @Jack D
    @Kratoklastes

    As you might guess from the language, exceptio non adimpleti contractus is a concept from Roman law, not the common law. (It means that you don't have to perform your end of a contract unless the other party has performed. ) Common law has similar concepts but not in those words - in the common law we say that a contract is "discharged" by the material breach of the other party. Exceptio non adimpleti contractus has a sort of chicken and egg problem - if neither party is obligated to perform until the other performs first, then no one is ever obligated to perform.

    Fidem fides frangatur iedem - you don't have to keep faith with those who have broken faith, is just a Roman proverb, not a legal concept at all.

    "Compensating the tribes" for something that happened 150 years ago is a political matter, not a legal matter (even if it is heard in the courts). By any normal legal standard, the statute of limitations on any such breach expired long ago. You may be right that the whites will inevitably lose, but this is due to loss of civilizational confidence and political will, not due to any principled application of law.

    By loss of civilizational confidence, I mean the process whereby a person who is say 1/4 aboriginal is motivated to identify with that identity and not with his European 3/4ths. As Bin Laden said, people want to choose the strong horse and the white team is no longer the strong horse, so people are choosing the other team if they have any plausible (or sometimes IMplausible) rationalization for doing so.

  143. In contrast, here’s a recent photo of one of the last wild Australian Aborigines, whose 9-person band walked in out of the Bush in 1984.

    From the photo, it looks like they have integrated seamlessly into the broader Australian community.

  144. @Anon
    @Wilkey


    The problem is that conservatives aren’t organized in the way that the Left is. We simply aren’t as good at civil protest and civil disobedience as the Left.
     
    This is tricky. WASPs and those southward in Europe to a slightly decreasing extent have high altruism, a wide radius of trust, strong empathy, high honesty, and a sense of guilt more than of shame (feeling bad that we did something bad, not that we were caught doing something bad).

    We are like the dodos in that we are vulnerable to less scrupulous peoples. But we are good and our lifestyle and nation is the best because of our traits, even though those traits make us easy prey. At the other end of any battle to the death we want to come out with our traits and values intact. I guess the best analogy is WWII: perhaps we have to temporarily turn into savage animals hoping that after victory comes we'll revert to our true nature. I think the destruction of Christianity and other virtuous social institutions make this hard.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s the right attitude, #318. Another analogy would be the Godfather movies where the Corleone family needed a wartime consigliere who was different from the normal consigliere (the guy Tom something or other). That’s the thing. We can’t keep losing with these attitudes that are great to have in normal times. This is cultural (so far) warfare now, and we need to act like that. We CAN revert, but we’d better make sure we don’t until we have a place it’s safe to revert in.

  145. @Anonymous
    White-looking 'Hawaiians' often dwell on politics of pride.

    White-looking 'Aborigines' often dwell on politics of shame.

    I guess more fun in playing Hawaiian.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwUH02DDWU

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘White-looking ‘Hawaiians’ often dwell on politics of pride…’

    The bumph surrounding ‘Hawaiians’ is irritating too — but in a different way.

    There’s a fair amount of Hawaiian DNA floating around the Aloha state, but ‘Hawaiians’ aren’t really who are there.

    It’s ‘locals’ — who shade off into various groups but are generally kind of a porridge of Japanese, White, ‘Portuguese,’ Chinese, Filipino, and…yes…Hawaiian.

    The thing is, there’s a very visible — and very definitely not mainland — culture there, but it’s largely inarticulate. Instead, all discussion circles round and round about the ‘Hawaiians.’ It’s kind of missing the target.

  146. @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.
     
    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.

    I agree that SA is--nominally--another wakeup call for the West, for white people.

    But really, how many "wake up calls" do you need. It's obvious that diversity causes contention and conflict--always has, always will. And that white people who allow their nation to be packed with foreign peoples--much less blacks!!!--are in for a world of hurt. All of history and just basic common sense should suffice to get the message across ... yet white people can't rouse themselves.

    In my--simplistic--way of thinking the Boers have had three opportunities to prevent this:
    1) Conquest. Avoid diversity on startup--settle SA by driving off the natives, instead of using their labor.
    2) Nationalism. After independence, or the National Party coming to power, or forming the Republic, the Boer could have made an effort to separate themselves from blacks geographically into a white (and probably a separate "colored") ethnostate, pursue high fertility and rely on their own labor. Instead they chose to institute apartheid and relied on black labor.
    3) Separation. When apartheid became untenable, the Boer could have chosen to give up most of their territory, but separate Boer Republic in the Western Cape that would have a credible future. Instead they chose to try and hang onto all their farms and mines and businesses and accept "multi-racial democracy"--i.e. rule by blacks.

    Three times the Boer had a chance to build a credible future for their posterity with their own labor ... and three times they submitted to the siren call of "more loot" with "cheap labor".

    South Africa is just a big flashing red bill board warning about submitting to "cheap labor" and "diversity".

    Western nations needs to pay heed, shuck off the Jewish minoritarian/immigrationist propaganda/ideology flowing from America, close borders, integrate what you can, expel what you can't and preserve their nations.

    Are the people of any Western nation going to look at SA and correct? Sadly, no.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know what Sailer could say. His brilliance is beyond my puny ability to comprehend.

    Agree that the writing’s been on the wall since 1994, but when the letters come into such sharp focus as they have in the last few days, I expect someone here to read the words. It’s more important than football or Aborigines, at least, in my book it is.

  147. @peterike
    What is it about Anglo nations that make them so particularly susceptible to the Jewish mind virus? From ruling the world not that long ago -- with a firm, even cruel, hand, and no F's given whatsoever -- to a collection of nations that are actively committing suicide and doing everything possible to overwhelm and displace their legacy white populations with anyone on earth that wants to show up -- Africans, Arabs, Asians, they all come pouring in, unchecked.

    UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand all have ruling classes that are even worse than the dreadful American ruling class. They are openly and officially anti-white, aggressively so in the UK and Canada. And the train is picking up speed with no sign of any pushback that isn't immediately squashed by the ruling class. Thought-crime arrests are robust in the UK and getting increased traction in the other nations.

    Why are Anglo nations unable to resist Jewish minoritarianism? Imagine England today if they had never let the Jews back in. Indeed, imagine Europe and the world. Totally different places.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Jewish Oligarch-Gangsters are entrapping White Gentile leaders into prostitution rings. Then sexual blackmail is exerted to demand favors.

    Just look at how many elites were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein. Like Bill&Hillary Clinton.

    Watch this 3-minute video from “The Godfather 2” to better understand this point. In this video, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a brothel owned by the Corleone mafia family.

    Senator Geary then becomes a huge advocate for Italian-Americans and attempts to derail an investigation into mafia activities. 1 minute video.

    If you substitute in Jews for Italians, this is a realistic model for how America works.

    Jeffrey Epstein was a real-life Jewish version of Michael Corleone.

  148. I have family in Australia and have spent years there. Aboriginals are a defeated people. They are to be pitied. The whites who understand them best are country folk who vote National Party and call them ‘black fellas.’ As they do themselves.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Well, by many measures the abos are the most primitive people on earth. Do you expect that they might prevail against the most advanced?

    The problem comes when foolish, delusional do-gooders insist that they be integrated, despite clear evidence that only a tiny fraction of them are even remotely capable of that.

    Then we end up destroying the advanced civilization in order to make this happen. This phenomenon is sadly familiar to anyone living in the USA today.

  149. Anon[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    “Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn’t use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?”

    “I guess they didn’t want to get hacked by Nazis?”
     

    Their Enigma code was ultimately breakable thanks to the anally-retentive schoolboy error that a letter couldn't represent itself. I can imagine the morons and imbeciles in San Quentin would be the first to ask, "Why not?"

    The Brits eliminated this flaw in their Bombe knockoff, and the Germans did find that unbreakable. Let Dr Grime at Numberphile explain the details:


    https://youtu.be/G2_Q9FoD-oQ

    https://youtu.be/V4V2bpZlqx8

    Replies: @Anon

    I love the sister channel of Numberphile, Computerphile, especially the segments hosted by the wry, fraying-at-the-edges Kyle MacLachlan lookalike Dr. Mike Pound. In the following video he tries to brute force the Enigma machine with a modern laptop:

    The off-camera Ed McMahon-like sidekick is old-timer Professor Dave Brailsford, who is a Zelig-type character who seems to have been on the scene of every major computer breakthrough and who knew anyone who was anyone.

  150. @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    Amazing that KwaZulu is up in flames and all Boomer Steve can do is discuss this obscure subject no one else cares about, not even Australians.
     
    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.

    I agree that SA is--nominally--another wakeup call for the West, for white people.

    But really, how many "wake up calls" do you need. It's obvious that diversity causes contention and conflict--always has, always will. And that white people who allow their nation to be packed with foreign peoples--much less blacks!!!--are in for a world of hurt. All of history and just basic common sense should suffice to get the message across ... yet white people can't rouse themselves.

    In my--simplistic--way of thinking the Boers have had three opportunities to prevent this:
    1) Conquest. Avoid diversity on startup--settle SA by driving off the natives, instead of using their labor.
    2) Nationalism. After independence, or the National Party coming to power, or forming the Republic, the Boer could have made an effort to separate themselves from blacks geographically into a white (and probably a separate "colored") ethnostate, pursue high fertility and rely on their own labor. Instead they chose to institute apartheid and relied on black labor.
    3) Separation. When apartheid became untenable, the Boer could have chosen to give up most of their territory, but separate Boer Republic in the Western Cape that would have a credible future. Instead they chose to try and hang onto all their farms and mines and businesses and accept "multi-racial democracy"--i.e. rule by blacks.

    Three times the Boer had a chance to build a credible future for their posterity with their own labor ... and three times they submitted to the siren call of "more loot" with "cheap labor".

    South Africa is just a big flashing red bill board warning about submitting to "cheap labor" and "diversity".

    Western nations needs to pay heed, shuck off the Jewish minoritarian/immigrationist propaganda/ideology flowing from America, close borders, integrate what you can, expel what you can't and preserve their nations.

    Are the people of any Western nation going to look at SA and correct? Sadly, no.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.

    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door. Grand apartheid, like relegation-and-promotion, only works if you establish it at the very beginning. After that, it’s almost impossible to retrofit.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door.

    This is remarkably doddering even by your standards. Out of kindness I shall suggest a book.

    https://www.amazon.com/Washing-Spears-History-Nation-under/dp/B0006BMQRI/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  151. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    What do you want Steve to say? South Africa has been doomed since 1994.
     
    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door. Grand apartheid, like relegation-and-promotion, only works if you establish it at the very beginning. After that, it's almost impossible to retrofit.

    Replies: @anon

    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door.

    This is remarkably doddering even by your standards. Out of kindness I shall suggest a book.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @anon

    Once the Brits-- or the Boers-- reached Zulu territory, they should have stopped and built a fence. A wall. A moat. There was no valid reason to bring the races together. No more than there was in America.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @anon

  152. @Anon
    Someone posted a series of screenshots from 4chan.org/pol/. Wikipedia describes this discussion board as follows:

    /pol/, short for "politically incorrect", is a political discussion board on 4chan. The board has been noted for its racist, white supremacist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and transphobic content. The board serves partly as a "containment" area on 4chan: a place to divert trolls and extremists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/
     
    Ahem.

    Of course, Unz.com is described by Wikipedia as promoting "anti-semitism, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theories, and white supremacist material" and Steve Sailer doesn't do much better.

    A series of IQ-related screen shots from /pol/ were posted on Twitter recently and got quite a few retweets. The images reproduced comments by an anonymous member who claimed to have been a psychology student working at San Quentin interviewing inmates, most of whom were low IQ. He related some specific cognitive difficulties that such people have, and I found it pretty interesting, although I haven't been able to find much specific confirmation of the claims online.

    I put the images through an online OCR converter, changed the lowercase L's to uppercase I's, added some subtitles, and did some other cleanup, and here's the result:

    COMPREHENSION OF CONDITIONAL HYPOTHETICALS

    I did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of this stuff. Did you know that most people (95 percent plus) with less than a 90 IQ cannot understand conditional hypotheticals?

    For example:

    "How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?"

    "What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch."

    "Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?"

    "Why are you saying that I didn't eat breakfast? I just told you that I did."

    "Imagine that you hadn't eaten it, though. How would you have felt?"

    "I don't understand the question."

    lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They're absolute fucking retards, at least 50 percent illiterate.

    PRODUCTION OF RECURSIVE STORIES

    Another interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.

    For example:

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    In this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    If you have less than a 90 IQ, this second exercise is basically completely impossible.

    Add a third level ("frame") to the story, and even IQ 100s start to get mixed up with the names and who is talking.

    It turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!

    AWARENESS OF TIME AND RECOGNITION OF ANACHRONISMS

    Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80s. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past, and can't plan for the future at all.

    Sub 90s struggle with anachronism too. For example, I remember the 80-85s stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.

    For instance:

    "Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn't use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?"

    "I guess they didn't want to get hacked by Nazis?"

    Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.

    Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100 plus IQs have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like "Memento" strains them a little.

    Recursion was definitely the killer, though.

    Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren't too many of those!)

    EMPATHY AND SOCIOPATHIC AND PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR

    It's the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQs are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don't have the mental computing power to model other people's thoughts and feelings. I've seen it over and over with convicts.

    "How do you think that man felt when you beat him?"

    "Dunno."

    "How do you think that boy's mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?"

    "Dunno."

    lt comes across as psychopathic, but these people literally don't have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else's mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past.

    ABSTRACT COGNITIVE MAPPING

    I forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is "mapping." This is, basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.

    For example:

    "Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.

    "Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the street and the highest number being at the exit.

    "If you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?"

    This question really isn't tricky for most 100 plusers. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the "mapping"": that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.

    However, for sub-90s, this stuff is really difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80s just can't do it at all.

    Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can't learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes), even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.

    MATHEMATICS

    Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it is heavily decided by IQ. That's a bit tautological, since it's a principal IQ measurement, but you know what I mean.

    NARCISSISM

    As for the criminal narcissists etc: I honestly don't know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you're smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.

    I suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it's like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don't have the "hardware" for empathy.

    That's it.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @Peter Akuleyev

    A certain minimum I.Q. is a prerequisite for empathy? There must have been studies on this, right? It’s funny, I’ve been thinking lately that too much emphasis is being put on I.Q.–that more focus should be put on the genetic differences that are causing the wildly disproportionate representation of blacks when it comes to violent crime–the so-called “warrior gene” or whatever. But maybe it does mostly come down to I.Q.?

  153. @Cortes
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I’m sure you meant Welsh.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_(surname)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    You’re right. I was mislead by the IRA terrorist Dolours Price. Abo daddy could be either Welsh or Irish (or anything “British”).

  154. @JMcG
    Can anyone recommend a decent short book on the Aborigines? Pre-PC if possible. I know vanishingly little about them.

    Replies: @Drovers Dog, @Anon, @Ed Case

    Triumph of the Nomads by Geoffrey Blainey

    • Agree: sb
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Drovers Dog

    Thank you kindly.

  155. @JMcG
    Can anyone recommend a decent short book on the Aborigines? Pre-PC if possible. I know vanishingly little about them.

    Replies: @Drovers Dog, @Anon, @Ed Case

    Spinifex and Sand by David W Carnegie is loaded with honest and unfiltered observations of very first contacts between real aborigines and whites. https://sydneyuniversitypress.com.au/products/78646

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Anon

    Thanks for the recommendation!

    , @anon
    @Anon

    Thanks.

  156. @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    It was doomed when they let the first Bantu in the door.

    This is remarkably doddering even by your standards. Out of kindness I shall suggest a book.

    https://www.amazon.com/Washing-Spears-History-Nation-under/dp/B0006BMQRI/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Once the Brits– or the Boers– reached Zulu territory, they should have stopped and built a fence. A wall. A moat. There was no valid reason to bring the races together. No more than there was in America.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Reg Cæsar

    Greed, as always. The whites encouraged Bantu immigration for the same reason whites shipped Africans over the the Americas. Cheap labor. And in fairness it worked out just fine for those generations.

    , @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    should have

    smh

  157. @sb
    Well if your average Abo has fair hair ,blue eyes and a white skin I don't envisage there being too much of a problem .
    It all becomes rather like those people who go around claiming to be klingons

    Mind you if I was a genuine Aborigine I might take umbrage at these imposters stealing all the goodies.
    But you never hear a peep from them

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Anonymous, @Ed Case

    Abos are nonconformists.
    16% are also Psychopaths, so there’s no reason for other Australians to interact with them voluntarily.

  158. @Empty Vessel
    White Aussie here; you have this spot on. Andrew Bolt was clobbered by The Establishment for his common sense comments. Similar comments are made by Aborigines regularly about urban people of little or no indigenous blood cashing in on grants and the like. Understandably, it's money meant for people who are disadvantaged, being taken by people who don't need it. But it's RACIST to question their claims.

    The ongoing circumstances of a lot of genuine Aborigines are awful, and billions of dollars have been spent to no effect. HBD and all that.....

    Replies: @Ed Case

    Understandably, it’s money meant for people who are disadvantaged, being taken by people who don’t need it.

    That’s not the issue.
    There’s no applications from Tribal or semi Tribal Abos for Art and Writing Grants, because they’re not interested or in Gaol.
    It’s Government money for nothing so Labor Party connected grifters can cash in.
    The Murdoch Press in Australia has been a big promoter of Free Cash for Fake Abos.

  159. @JMcG
    Can anyone recommend a decent short book on the Aborigines? Pre-PC if possible. I know vanishingly little about them.

    Replies: @Drovers Dog, @Anon, @Ed Case

    Here’s some black and white photos taken from Baldwin Spencer’s 1894/95 expedition to Central Australia:
    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/baldwin-spencer.html

    • Thanks: JMcG
  160. @Kratoklastes
    @Emblematic


    If you’re only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?
     
    Leaving aside that part-natives do "get [] extra reward", the reason that an individual might 'up-rate' their aboriginality might be as simple as the aboriginal ancestor being a good role model.

    My maternal grandfather was Maori; if he had been a violent drunken asshole, I would be less conscious of his role in shaping my character. He contributed genetically; through his role in being my mother's father; and through his exemplary treatment of me when I lived with them for a year.

    It also makes me larf when dumb cunts propose Blood Quantum as the proper basis for membership of a culture. For example: Maori had slaves (taurekareka); manumitted slaves were full members of the tribe; hence it was - and is - entirely possible for a full member of a tribe to have literally 100% Euromutt DNA.

    There is at least one famous rangatira (chief) who had a son-in-law who was originally a white slave, who was manumitted after acquitting himself well and was permitted to marry the rangatira's dughter. The son-in-law was one of the first recognised Pakeha Maori: Jacky Marmon - originally an Australian, who was captured by Nga Puhi in the mid-1820s.

    Of course it helps that maoritanga is fucking awesome; "whanau and whenua" is as close to "blood and soil" as you can get - which is why Maori have a history of forcing pakeha to respect mana whenua. Still and all, the moment you're accepted into the iwi, you are part of whanau, so the "blood" bit is not a necessary condition, you numpties. (Contrast that with the lot that faced a manumitted slave in the US or the Caribbean).

    Whites are in New Zealand on the basis of a treaty that was negotiated and executed in bad faith by the English (e.g., deliberate textual differences between the Maori and English versions of the text, that enable English-law interpretations that are wildly at variance with Maori intentions).

    The treaty was also reneged upon within a decade (like so many treaties in so many places); the exceptio non adimplenti contractus (and the overarching maxim frangenti fidem fides frangatur iedem) are two concepts from Common Law that should properly apply. Maori properly owe no allegiance to the New Zealand government until it remedies the breach and compensates the tribes - a process that the NZ government has fought tooth and nail since the 1860s, but one which it will inevitably lose.

    Utu, bitches.

    It shouldn't surprise anyone that the people who navigated 5000km across open ocean in canoes - at a time when Whites were just beginning the non-coast-hugging bits of the Age of Exploration - turn out to have a few clues.

    Replies: @22pp22, @Jack D

    Maori culture never strikes me as that great, with rampant domestic violence, organized crime, obesity and alcoholism. They ate the Morioris, so spare me the self-righteous posturing.

    Maori are over-represented in the jails and almost non-existent in the medical and engineering professions.

    Up north, where people are very visibly Maori, they are not doing well despite everything the government does for them. The Ngai Tahu who have really done well from the Treaty reparations are very barely Maori either physically or culturally. The Ngai Tahu dialect is extinct.

    The poverty map of New Zealand is effectively an ethnic map.

    Maori in Australia, where they get no special treatment, are doing far better. They are thicker on the ground in parts of Brisbane than they are over most of the South Island. That may because they are less bitter and twisted that those left behind in Porirua.

  161. @Kratoklastes
    @Emblematic


    If you’re only 1/16 aboriginal (or whatever), and you get no extra reward, why would you choose to adopt that aspect of your family tree as the paramount one unless someone is really pushing you to do so?
     
    Leaving aside that part-natives do "get [] extra reward", the reason that an individual might 'up-rate' their aboriginality might be as simple as the aboriginal ancestor being a good role model.

    My maternal grandfather was Maori; if he had been a violent drunken asshole, I would be less conscious of his role in shaping my character. He contributed genetically; through his role in being my mother's father; and through his exemplary treatment of me when I lived with them for a year.

    It also makes me larf when dumb cunts propose Blood Quantum as the proper basis for membership of a culture. For example: Maori had slaves (taurekareka); manumitted slaves were full members of the tribe; hence it was - and is - entirely possible for a full member of a tribe to have literally 100% Euromutt DNA.

    There is at least one famous rangatira (chief) who had a son-in-law who was originally a white slave, who was manumitted after acquitting himself well and was permitted to marry the rangatira's dughter. The son-in-law was one of the first recognised Pakeha Maori: Jacky Marmon - originally an Australian, who was captured by Nga Puhi in the mid-1820s.

    Of course it helps that maoritanga is fucking awesome; "whanau and whenua" is as close to "blood and soil" as you can get - which is why Maori have a history of forcing pakeha to respect mana whenua. Still and all, the moment you're accepted into the iwi, you are part of whanau, so the "blood" bit is not a necessary condition, you numpties. (Contrast that with the lot that faced a manumitted slave in the US or the Caribbean).

    Whites are in New Zealand on the basis of a treaty that was negotiated and executed in bad faith by the English (e.g., deliberate textual differences between the Maori and English versions of the text, that enable English-law interpretations that are wildly at variance with Maori intentions).

    The treaty was also reneged upon within a decade (like so many treaties in so many places); the exceptio non adimplenti contractus (and the overarching maxim frangenti fidem fides frangatur iedem) are two concepts from Common Law that should properly apply. Maori properly owe no allegiance to the New Zealand government until it remedies the breach and compensates the tribes - a process that the NZ government has fought tooth and nail since the 1860s, but one which it will inevitably lose.

    Utu, bitches.

    It shouldn't surprise anyone that the people who navigated 5000km across open ocean in canoes - at a time when Whites were just beginning the non-coast-hugging bits of the Age of Exploration - turn out to have a few clues.

    Replies: @22pp22, @Jack D

    As you might guess from the language, exceptio non adimpleti contractus is a concept from Roman law, not the common law. (It means that you don’t have to perform your end of a contract unless the other party has performed. ) Common law has similar concepts but not in those words – in the common law we say that a contract is “discharged” by the material breach of the other party. Exceptio non adimpleti contractus has a sort of chicken and egg problem – if neither party is obligated to perform until the other performs first, then no one is ever obligated to perform.

    Fidem fides frangatur iedem – you don’t have to keep faith with those who have broken faith, is just a Roman proverb, not a legal concept at all.

    “Compensating the tribes” for something that happened 150 years ago is a political matter, not a legal matter (even if it is heard in the courts). By any normal legal standard, the statute of limitations on any such breach expired long ago. You may be right that the whites will inevitably lose, but this is due to loss of civilizational confidence and political will, not due to any principled application of law.

    By loss of civilizational confidence, I mean the process whereby a person who is say 1/4 aboriginal is motivated to identify with that identity and not with his European 3/4ths. As Bin Laden said, people want to choose the strong horse and the white team is no longer the strong horse, so people are choosing the other team if they have any plausible (or sometimes IMplausible) rationalization for doing so.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  162. @Drovers Dog
    @JMcG

    Triumph of the Nomads by Geoffrey Blainey

    Replies: @JMcG

    Thank you kindly.

  163. @cmv
    One thing to note is that aboriginality is more a matter of identification, not appearance, so this sort of thing can slide, especially in the Eastern States, where there are far fewer full-blooded aborigines. Tasmania, Melbourne and Sydney would be the worst offenders in this regard.

    I've previously spent a few years living in the catchment area of the Gibson desert. There are plenty of Aboriginals in Outback Australia who look just like that member of the Pintupi 9, but they are not getting university grants or working as inclusion officers for BHP Billiton- A disconcertingly large amount of them seem to spend their day getting drunk or abusing solvents in the local park, sniping for cigarette butts, breaking into cars or feuding between themselves or members of rival skin groups. Life hasn't really changed much from them over the past few generations.

    Replies: @gandydancer, @Mackerel Sky

    One thing to note is that aboriginality is more a matter of identification, not appearance…

    That’s ridiculous. It’s about how much of your ancestry was in Australia before the whites came and how much wasn’t. It’s genetics, not LARPing.

    This Barty tennis person is maybe 1/8 abo. Full stop.

    • Agree: Jack D
  164. @Anon
    @JMcG

    Spinifex and Sand by David W Carnegie is loaded with honest and unfiltered observations of very first contacts between real aborigines and whites. https://sydneyuniversitypress.com.au/products/78646

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon

    Thanks for the recommendation!

  165. @SafeNow
    I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Replies: @anon, @peterike, @Colin Wright, @sayless, @sb

    Switzerland.

  166. @Anon
    @JMcG

    Spinifex and Sand by David W Carnegie is loaded with honest and unfiltered observations of very first contacts between real aborigines and whites. https://sydneyuniversitypress.com.au/products/78646

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon

    Thanks.

  167. @Jack D
    @Desiderius

    “What threatens the flat earth theory more than the scientific research into astronomy and geography? Nothing.”

    Spengler's Specter (circa 1300): Lmao This is where you blinkered round earth autistospergs miss the forest for the trees, and why your silly little movement has gone nowhere.

    Replies: @Djkjcgjj

    Say no to spheremongering!

  168. @Reg Cæsar
    @anon

    Once the Brits-- or the Boers-- reached Zulu territory, they should have stopped and built a fence. A wall. A moat. There was no valid reason to bring the races together. No more than there was in America.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @anon

    Greed, as always. The whites encouraged Bantu immigration for the same reason whites shipped Africans over the the Americas. Cheap labor. And in fairness it worked out just fine for those generations.

  169. @Anon
    Someone posted a series of screenshots from 4chan.org/pol/. Wikipedia describes this discussion board as follows:

    /pol/, short for "politically incorrect", is a political discussion board on 4chan. The board has been noted for its racist, white supremacist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and transphobic content. The board serves partly as a "containment" area on 4chan: a place to divert trolls and extremists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/
     
    Ahem.

    Of course, Unz.com is described by Wikipedia as promoting "anti-semitism, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theories, and white supremacist material" and Steve Sailer doesn't do much better.

    A series of IQ-related screen shots from /pol/ were posted on Twitter recently and got quite a few retweets. The images reproduced comments by an anonymous member who claimed to have been a psychology student working at San Quentin interviewing inmates, most of whom were low IQ. He related some specific cognitive difficulties that such people have, and I found it pretty interesting, although I haven't been able to find much specific confirmation of the claims online.

    I put the images through an online OCR converter, changed the lowercase L's to uppercase I's, added some subtitles, and did some other cleanup, and here's the result:

    COMPREHENSION OF CONDITIONAL HYPOTHETICALS

    I did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of this stuff. Did you know that most people (95 percent plus) with less than a 90 IQ cannot understand conditional hypotheticals?

    For example:

    "How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?"

    "What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch."

    "Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?"

    "Why are you saying that I didn't eat breakfast? I just told you that I did."

    "Imagine that you hadn't eaten it, though. How would you have felt?"

    "I don't understand the question."

    lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They're absolute fucking retards, at least 50 percent illiterate.

    PRODUCTION OF RECURSIVE STORIES

    Another interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.

    For example:

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.

    "Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    In this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue."

    If you have less than a 90 IQ, this second exercise is basically completely impossible.

    Add a third level ("frame") to the story, and even IQ 100s start to get mixed up with the names and who is talking.

    It turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!

    AWARENESS OF TIME AND RECOGNITION OF ANACHRONISMS

    Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80s. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past, and can't plan for the future at all.

    Sub 90s struggle with anachronism too. For example, I remember the 80-85s stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.

    For instance:

    "Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn't use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?"

    "I guess they didn't want to get hacked by Nazis?"

    Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.

    Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100 plus IQs have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like "Memento" strains them a little.

    Recursion was definitely the killer, though.

    Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren't too many of those!)

    EMPATHY AND SOCIOPATHIC AND PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR

    It's the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQs are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don't have the mental computing power to model other people's thoughts and feelings. I've seen it over and over with convicts.

    "How do you think that man felt when you beat him?"

    "Dunno."

    "How do you think that boy's mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?"

    "Dunno."

    lt comes across as psychopathic, but these people literally don't have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else's mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past.

    ABSTRACT COGNITIVE MAPPING

    I forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is "mapping." This is, basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.

    For example:

    "Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.

    "Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the street and the highest number being at the exit.

    "If you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?"

    This question really isn't tricky for most 100 plusers. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the "mapping"": that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.

    However, for sub-90s, this stuff is really difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80s just can't do it at all.

    Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can't learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes), even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.

    MATHEMATICS

    Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it is heavily decided by IQ. That's a bit tautological, since it's a principal IQ measurement, but you know what I mean.

    NARCISSISM

    As for the criminal narcissists etc: I honestly don't know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you're smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.

    I suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it's like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don't have the "hardware" for empathy.

    That's it.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @Peter Akuleyev

    It doesn’t seem true to me that low IQ people can’t feel empathy. The explanation is more likely that people who can’t feel empathy are likely to be criminals.

    Low IQ people, like Down’s Syndrome sufferers, often seem to have a surfeit of empathy. They can’t always distinguish between themselves and others clearly and are often made very upset by other people feeling pain. Low IQ people are also more likely to be superstitious and assume that if they do something bad to someone, something bad will happen to them. If anything very high IQ people tend to be colder and rational about dealing out pain to others, realizing that there is no such thing as “karma” , and it is quite possible to get away with hurting other people with no consequence to oneself.

  170. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    I have family in Australia and have spent years there. Aboriginals are a defeated people. They are to be pitied. The whites who understand them best are country folk who vote National Party and call them ‘black fellas.’ As they do themselves.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Well, by many measures the abos are the most primitive people on earth. Do you expect that they might prevail against the most advanced?

    The problem comes when foolish, delusional do-gooders insist that they be integrated, despite clear evidence that only a tiny fraction of them are even remotely capable of that.

    Then we end up destroying the advanced civilization in order to make this happen. This phenomenon is sadly familiar to anyone living in the USA today.

  171. @Anon
    Steve, have you or anyone else on this forum noticed a that Aboriginals seems to have decent verbal IQ for their supposedly astonishingly low IQ scores?

    From the available videos on YouTube I found that even even the more pure aboriginals seems to have better speech than some of the most ghetto black Americans.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Djkjcgjj

    Almost everyone is “smarter” verbally than mathematically. Almost anyone can learn two or more languages, at at least if raised with them. English majors do better in English than engineering majors, but engineering majors do better in English than English majors do in math. Most educated, or just well-read, people can sound intelligent on a variety of topics, but math is what separates the sheep from the goats — I am a goat.

  172. @SafeNow
    I remember about a year ago there was a movement in Australia saying, ask New Zealand to annex Australia, and then tell us what to do.

    Steve, maybe an interesting topic would be: If the US were to follow the above model, and ask another country to tell us what to do, which country would it be? (actual annexation not required)

    Replies: @anon, @peterike, @Colin Wright, @sayless, @sb

    There are certainly hard lefties in Australia who think the sun shines out of New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s arse
    I think calling it a movement is a bit of a stretch ( no puns intended )

  173. sb says:
    @Polistra
    @Redneck farmer

    One presumes you're familiar with "Beds Are Burning" -- their vintage classic wherein they proposed giving the entire continent "back" to the Abos.

    How did Canada and Australia build advanced societies equal in wealth to the USA's, without benefit of negro laborers to "build everything" for them?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Drovers Dog, @Wilkey, @Supply and Demand, @James N. Kennett, @PiltdownMan, @Buffalo Joe, @sb

    There is not one dominant answer to this for Australia .
    In the beginning convict labour built the roads etc ( Remember they once went to the American colonies )
    Sugar cane plantation labour was initially supplied by Melanesians but with the White Australia Policy they were replaced largely by Italians who ended up largely owning and controlling the industry .
    But generally the early settlers were very cooperative in getting the hard work done and not much inclined to rugged individualism .But agriculture and mining -the basis of Australia’s wealth -quickly became fairly mechanised

    Aborigines were notoriously unsuited for work as Westerners use the term with the one exception being that they were gifted horsemen and became commonplace in the pastoral industry
    ( This largely ended when equal pay became the law )

  174. @PaceLaw
    It’s curious that there was no mention of DNA tests (don’t they have Ancestry DNA in Australia?), which would surely clarify who is and who isn’t aborigine. Heck, Elizabeth Warren even had a DNA test which proved that she’s maybe only 1% Native American. You don’t hear about her claiming that status anymore.

    Replies: @Jack D, @sb

    The idea of DNA testing to decide who is or is not Aboriginal is always shouted down by the Aborigine Industry -which is largely controlled by those who may not “pass ” such a test

    it’s all about the “vibe ”

  175. @Reg Cæsar
    @anon

    Once the Brits-- or the Boers-- reached Zulu territory, they should have stopped and built a fence. A wall. A moat. There was no valid reason to bring the races together. No more than there was in America.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @anon

    should have

    smh

  176. @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    Price? This is Irish.

    Another confirmation of what I've said: the Irish would screw everything that moves, including a rattlesnake if one would hold her head.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Ed Case

    Not sure if any photos of Bess Price and her husband are out there.
    The couple provide Interpreting services to Government in the Alice Springs region of the Northern Territory, mostly to the Courts.
    She is fluent in a number of the Tribal Languages.
    The Anthropologist Strehlow is the only non Aboriginal to achieve fluency in an Aboriginal Language, he grew up on the Hermannsburg Lutheran Mission, where his father was the Pastor.

    Not pretending to know much about the subject, but one of the difficulties with Aboriginal Languages is that there are many Pronouns and if the correct Pronoun isn’t used the communication isn’t understandable to the listener.

  177. @cmv
    One thing to note is that aboriginality is more a matter of identification, not appearance, so this sort of thing can slide, especially in the Eastern States, where there are far fewer full-blooded aborigines. Tasmania, Melbourne and Sydney would be the worst offenders in this regard.

    I've previously spent a few years living in the catchment area of the Gibson desert. There are plenty of Aboriginals in Outback Australia who look just like that member of the Pintupi 9, but they are not getting university grants or working as inclusion officers for BHP Billiton- A disconcertingly large amount of them seem to spend their day getting drunk or abusing solvents in the local park, sniping for cigarette butts, breaking into cars or feuding between themselves or members of rival skin groups. Life hasn't really changed much from them over the past few generations.

    Replies: @gandydancer, @Mackerel Sky

    There are no full-blood Tasmanian aboriginals. All Tasmanian aboriginals living today have substantial European ancestry. The last Tasmanian aboriginal with no European ancestors was Truganini, who died in 1876.

    Phenotypically, many Tasmanian aboriginals are indistinguishable from Europeans, and can only be readily identified by their “I stand on my land” T-shirts.

  178. @Paperback Writer
    @Wizard of Oz


    But a good Aussie white girl won at Wimbledon this year so nothing much will change the good life

     

    If you're referring to Ash Barty, she's fractionally Aboriginal in blood and 100% Aboriginal in identity. Where you been?

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

    Thanks. Although tennis (both kinds) has been part of my exercising and even competing life I haven’t time to spend on watching so merely picked up from the news that a physically white woman had won. Good for her and good for us. What a shame America’s problems are not so near non existent!)

  179. @Anthony Aaron
    Not too many years ago, I remember reading about Aussie grant money being available for current examples of Aboriginal art -- including writing, etc.

    ALL of those claiming and winning the prize money were -- jews claiming to be Aborigines … and, like some commenters say here, the Aborigines don't and/or don't dare really complain about it.

    Big surprise … 

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

    Please try and find the source of your recollection. It is hard to believe but it could be very useful if authenticated.

  180. @Jack D
    Whatever you incentivize you get more of. And if there are only X number of sinecures set aside for "Aboriginals" then the 1/8th Aboriginals are going to try to exclude the 1/16th Aboriginals as not being real enough.

    You are never going to get academic chairs occupied by full blooded Aboriginals because, aside from the fact that there are so few of them remaining, the few pure bloods usually don't have the kind of IQ associated with the capacity for higher education - their median IQ is 62. This is not a typo. It's hard to exaggerate how primitive the Aboriginals were. When the Europeans arrived, they were closer to another type of fauna than to what we would recognize as civilized humans. American Indians were intellectual giants compared to them. Aboriginals went about naked as they foraged for grubs and lizards and their dwellings looked something like chimpanzee nests - just a pile of sticks.

    In any case, especially with women, with their use of hair bleach and cosmetics, it's hard to just blood quantum just from appearance. This is especially true for Aboriginals. Sub-saharan African blood usually remains evident in appearance until it is down to maybe the 1/8th level (and sometimes beyond) but for some strange, poorly understood (at least by me) reason, Aborginal appearance is highly recessive and fades quickly - even half bloods often appear to be fully European.

    Replies: @Hakan's assistant, @Wizard of Oz

    If you give it a bit of thought that 62 figure that Lynn and Vanhenen have publicised is ridiculous. More meaningless than wrong. Ron Unz long ago exposed the deficiencies of Llyn and Vanhenen’s work when e.g. they solemnly put forward figures like 82 for the average IQ of the Irish. FWIW a former professor of economics (a blonde blue eyed Jewish retired academic told me that in working on Aboriginal education she had come across a 14 year old Aboriginal girl who was mathematically gifted. Mind you one would expect there to be some differences in Aboriginal brains, as their outstanding eyesight in healthy outback communities attests. But it is not obvious that they didn’t solve serious problems of coping with a difficult environment which, moreover, changed a great deal over 60,000 years.

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