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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Reality Check
Steve Sailer

May 05, 2021

… What can be done instead?

First, we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else. While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.

Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility. Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth—Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.

Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.

Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. I wholeheartedly agree. I’d have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about – not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    • Replies: @Verity Smurf
    @Dieter Kief

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    Replies: @No Recent Commenting History, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Ron Mexico

    , @Anon7
    @Dieter Kief

    "Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright?"

    Didn't the recent, forgotten presidency of Donald Trump prove that life would be fine for those "not so bright"? Didn't black unemployment drop to its lowest levels ever? Hispanic unemployment? Female unemployment?

    All it took was at least making an effort to not flood the economy with cheap foreign labor, and making the business climate more attractive. That's all. Or am I wrong about that?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Hockamaw
    @Dieter Kief


    That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.
     
    Poetry. Thanks.
    , @JMcG
    @Dieter Kief

    Steve has long advocated citizenism. He’s described that as arranging a nation such that it can offer all its citizens a meaningful place in society. The US has offshored a large part of the jobs that could, and should be performed by the intellectually average and below average members of our society. Instead, many of those manufacturing and service jobs are being done by the average and above average Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, and Moroccans who labor for the US customer.
    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Moses, @Paul Jolliffe

    , @Getaclue
    @Dieter Kief

    I read Biden is going to pour them in from Africa, free stuff for all (YT can pay) -- literally opening the spigot to flood the USA -- already half of Somalia is here and their relatives....This is the plan.

    , @scrivener3
    @Dieter Kief

    "Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time."

    I don't accept your assumed premise, that capitalism favors the bright. Being bright favors the bright. Smart people can be expected to do better than dim people everywhere and under any conditions.

    In a socialist country most people are worse off. The whole curve is moved to less affluence but the smart do better than the dumb.

    Under capitalism a smart person can take their brainpower, think of a way to make something that is awful less awful or even enjoyable for many people, go to venture investors and leverage saved capital to roll out their idea on a large scale improving more people's lives faster.

    Hasn't anyone noticed the innovation and rollout speed in the USA (as opposed to Europe, Russia, China) the speed goods and services proliferate.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Dieter Kief


    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.
     
    This conflates two separate questions:

    1) What's the best way to grow the economic pie?

    2) What's the best way to slice it and divvy it up?

    Ignoring HBD means having a smaller economic pie, as well as less-capable engineers, physicians, cops, firefighters, etc. that will cause more grief and suffering.

    Acknowledging HBD means having a bigger pie and more competent people in crucial jobs, and also having more justification for redistribution. If the poor are poor largely because of a lack of inherited gifts, than that supports calls for more help for them.

    Acknowledging HBD also offers support for policies that would increase the number of smart people versus not-smart people over time.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dieter Kief, @Corvinus

  2. Fantasy is often better than reality; so I am afraid things will get worse before they get better.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @Redneck farmer

    Fantasy is often better than reality; so I am afraid things will get worse before they get better.

    Gotta admit that these days the Asimov character Hari Seldon comes to mind.

  3. OTOH. Even if we managed to solve our endless domestic problems, we’re so very busy importing millions more.

  4. I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don’t agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There’s no “botching” of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it’s the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don’t claim it’s all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won’t matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .

    * I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yep, it's not ignorance or naïvité. It's malice. It's a self-destructive instinct projected outwards.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none."
    Fella's, it's so simple. It's all ball-bearings these days. (Apologies to Fletch if I misquoted) All the right people don't have enough kids.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think Steve's mostly right. Far larger than the group you're describing is the ordinary Americans caught between two incompatible points of view. The 17th century shitposter lays it out quite clearly: you're either a racist or an antiracist, or trying to pretend otherwise.

    Where he's wrong - or at least pushing uphill - is in trying to get black people to accept that they're naturally inferior. What self-respecting black guy is going to agree with that?

    Maybe it won't matter, if they're a demographically-shrinking group, and the other non-white races don't look at them through rose-tinted glasses. Perhaps in twenty years black kvetching will simply be ignored.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @reiner Tor
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none.
     
    Had they had more kids, those would grow up to be racial hustlers. In the insane world we are, the fewer blacks, the better. Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones, because they will probably, on average, still not be as smart as smart whites, yet they will be accepted by the best elite colleges, and then they will resent being dumber than smart whites, blaming "society" or "institutional racism" or "white supremacist power structures" or whatever for their inferiority. Anyway, smart blacks are certainly not any better than dumb ones, because it's an insane world.

    In a sane world, smart blacks like Condoleezza Rice not having kids while dumb blacks like Tessica Brown having many would be sad. It's not a sane world.

    Replies: @utu

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    Sailer can’t state the obvious during fundraising time.

    Replies: @anon

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    Yup.

    It's controlled demolition, all the way down.
    , @Barnard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There’s no “botching” of immigration from Africa going on.
     
    They want to destroy the middle class. The elite believe we have no more right to our middle class status than third worlders do and as living standards rise in the third world they want to drag us down so there is less of an environmental impact. They are more than a little defensive about the alarms the "In the future, you will own nothing and you will be happy" video from the World Economic Forum raised. It would be good to start labeling the elites strategy as "Neo-Feudalism" as you point out it may not be well organized, but it is without question their goal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Peter Akuleyev

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate, than that these people are to be free; nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of destruction between them".

    ~T.J.

    , @Marty
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not to gainsay your larger point, but I did "run into" an African immigrant back in 2010 or so. It was at the county law library. She was from Ethiopia or environs, was pitch black, spoke perfect English, and generally presented a very "lady like" appearance.

    , @G. Poulin
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The left will never stop lying about these matters. These lies are the thing that give meaning, purpose, and structure to their lives This will end when they have been physically overthrown, and not a minute sooner.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Svevlad
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have said once, we have reached a point where incompetence and malice must be treated the same if anything is to get better.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    If it's purposeful, then the people with the purpose must be made to pay. And no, not with income or estate taxes, because those hit the innocent as well as the guilty. To paraphrase Mencken, the practitioners of wokery know what they want (for us), and deserve to get it (themselves) good and hard.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    * I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.
     
    Just poking my head up to emphasize that AEN's anecdote about intelligent black women is correct. And everyone here who wants to understand American demographics should have their head wrapped around it.

    Blacks actually a much larger dysgenic skew than whites. (For whites the skew is toward the middle--HS grads and some college and away from both the dumb and smart, especially the post-grad degreed.) Blacks account for a big percentage of high college female/male ratio. The better educated (or at least degreed) segment of black women has severe sub-replacement fertility and the dumb blacks are fertile.

    Basically, college educated black women are looking for college educated black men for husbands--which is difficult because high quality black men have ... options--and really want to have an actual husband before having children (i.e. aspire to middle class norms). Many fail to do this and as result their fertility is low.

    As a result, believe it or not, black women in the net are producing even dumber blacks!

    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned "talent tenth" blacks ... is coming from white wombs.

    Replies: @Shango, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don't think it is, self deception, ideology, and wishful thinking I believe is driving this, these people are not that smart, period. The reason that Steve's ideas are banned from elite discussion is not because he throwing light on their nefarious plans and they want it want suppressed, it's because their ideas are in effect religious beliefs. Trying to change their minds through rational argument is pointless.

  5. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    Yep, it’s not ignorance or naïvité. It’s malice. It’s a self-destructive instinct projected outwards.

  6. I like your Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle regarding black people and property values.

    In groups of larger than 5% of the local population, black people can not simultaneously buy in and live in a neighborhood with high property values.

    I.e, they can experience high property values in a neighborhood only after they’ve left the neighborhood. It’s just Quantum Woke Physics, what can you do?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This might not be about Heisenberg so much, Mr. Mod. And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least. A basically postmodern society, mind you, Mr. Mod, that has somehow managed to Stopp Making Sense - of the real world (that's where Mr. Peterson kicks in (and his sidekick Camille Paglia).

    So - no Uncertainty Principle here at all; but nuclear physics nevertheless in the absolutely ironic/ sardonic/sarcastic way, Michel Houellebecq is presenting this field to us with his aptly titled novel about modern societies: Elementary Particles.****


    **** The absolute individualism as a basis for the liberal economic (and social) competition, that keeps Western societies going - up to some degree (level), and behind which lurks: Collapse (Jared Diamond), is what Michel Houllebecq dissects here as a root cause of our evils. The lack of an idea, which allows people to not only compete (not least sexually) - but to cooperate. The fun part of Mr. Houellebecqs thoughts: Sexuality (sexual longing/sexual liberation) is no form of cooperation. It is, as he shows in heartbreaking scenes of this novel, now a force of disruption. - The Summer of Love gave birth to it's own special shortcomings. The good times don't - roll any longer (cf.: Why don't we do it in the Road, Some Girls, Lynnrd Skynnrd Don't Ask me no Questions, Litttle Feet FreebirdJane Birkin / Serge Gainsbourg Je t' Aime , Macy Gray: Sex-O-Matic Maniac ...).

    This is from the White Album, ironically enough (not: from Revolver...)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4E6KtQg_z0

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman, @Currahee

    , @JMcG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This is the point about redlining that is constantly missed. The instant a black bought a house in a white neighborhood, whites realized they didn’t want to be the last to leave and take the biggest hit on their investment. House prices immediately declined. With bank-owned, government-backed mortgages, redlining was the only answer to maintain collateral against the risk taken.
    The biggest idiots ever were the blacks who allowed themselves to be used as vanguards of the minoritariat. They bought houses at the highest price many of those houses would ever see. Upside down instantly and forever.

    , @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Except that what iSteve postulates is more like an anti-Heisenberg principle, to wit: The more certain you can be of the black population being dominant in a neighbourhood, the more certain you can be that house and property values of that neighbourhood will be.

    Your take is just the flip of it.

    There’s also an anti-Schrödinger’s Cat in there: If the neighbourhood is dominated by blacks, it’s likely to be dead or dying, or at least very sick. You don’t need to open the box to determine it.

    It’s actually a case of Pareto Efficiency.

    , @mc23
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Unfortunately, a very apt comparison.

  7. Integration is not going to work; Thomas Jefferson was right–it’s impossible for blacks and whites to live together. We’re simply way past the stage where the civic nationalism that you and Charles Murray advocates has a chance of succeeding. Whites need to acquire an identity to counter the claims of blacks and the clannishness of other races.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic, Catdog
    • Troll: Corvinus
  8. The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn’t that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @JohnnyWalker123

    exactly, the Black population has been growing and the White population has been declining.

    Look at the most important demographics, Americans under the age of 40. These are the Americans who are fertile, forming families and entering the workforce.

    US population under the age of 40
    Year –Whites–Non-whites
    1990 – 121 M – 35 M
    2020 – 87 M – 77 M

    Since 1990 the Non-White population has more than doubled while the number of whites has fallen 30%. Looking at the under 40 year-old population we can see the near future. The White youth population has collapsed in absolute numbers by 30% in 40 years. This is catastrophic for White Americans. the death spiral has begun, with more white deaths than births. We are well past the point of no-return.

    , @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What a fucking moron.

    Your figures indicate a stagnant black population growth rate. Black increased 15 million from 1990 to 2020, and are peojected to grow a mere 14 million from 2020 - 2050. The immigration is also partially black.


    I swear, this website attracts some of the stupidest commenters on the web.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @The Alarmist
    @JohnnyWalker123


    ... how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

     

    It will invite in a hundred million latinos and let the ethnic cleansing roll on. It’s not hard to imagine after seeing exchanges like this....


    https://youtu.be/WRBOV-7nox4

    Replies: @dcthrowback

    , @Shango
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Do you have any sources that proves this?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @kaganovitch
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Didn't you see 'Hidden Figures'? They are vital for the next phase of Space exploration.

    , @loren
    @JohnnyWalker123

    USA imports them, into the millions since (((1965))).
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M..I read 12-15 million in 1965.

  9. Slavery isn’t the added economic value that people are taught. For instance, freedmen produced as much cotton as slaves, and the price of cotton rebounded quickly after emancipation. Even now, nations using slaves have some of the lowest GDP per capita, while the highest per capita don’t use slavery.
    This may be the most painful truth of all: that a slave is really an overpriced status symbol, like a designer purse. That’s why their insurance premiums were high. Of course, for illumination on the subject we could pick a typical slaveowning family and really delve into the details. Say, Barack Obama’s.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Puremania

    Using slave labor is a disincentive to capital investment for increased labor productivity, i.e. higher profits from higher labor output. It's the age-old labor vs capital input question. In times of capital scarcity, labor input is all there is--it's the only choice as there is no available alternative.

    Increase capital investment increases risk and fixed overhead, which requires increased financial and managerial competency. The status quo is the easier path.

    In other words, when cheap (slave) labor is plentiful and capital is scarce, labor input will be maximized.

    In today's world, the reverse is increasingly true: capital is readily available, while the fight for $15 advocates keep pushing increased labor wages.

    , @Gaius Gracchus
    @Puremania

    Pretty much. There is some interesting research along those lines. Owning slaves took one up the status ladder. Most slaveowners were highly leveraged.

    Meanwhile, the South was falling behind economically, as the free North was far more productive without slaves than the South was with slaves.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @Matt Buckalew
    @Puremania

    When they tried to use whites to farm in South Carolina and Tidewater Virginia they all died from disease. Slavery got entrenched in areas where only African labor would survive. That’s how we ended up with slavery.

    , @syonredux
    @Puremania

    Indeed. Slavery did a lot of economic and cultural damage to the USA:


    The South had lower average incomes than the North; and per capita income was growing more slowly in the South even before the Civil War. See Unequal Gains by Lindert and Williamson Chapter 5.
     

    The more important slavery was in a country or state the lower the level of income was in the future. Nathan Nunn “Slavery, Inequality and Economic Development in the Americas: An Examination of the Engerman-Sokoloff Argument (October 2007).
     

    Slave states had lower levels of educational attainement and less innovation (measured by patents) than states without slavery. This was true even in the areas that were most like the North in geography and economic activity. See John Majewski “Why Did Northerners Oppose the Expansion of Slavery? Economic Developemnt and Education in the Limestone South” Chapter 14 in Slavery’s Capitalsm.
     
    https://bradleyahansen.blogspot.com/2016/12/capitalism-and-slavery-debate-is-not.html

    True,
    cotton textiles were important for U.S. industrialization, and New England mills used the same
    slave-grown raw material as their competitors in Lancashire. But location within national
    boundaries had little economic significance for this industry. As a bulky but lightweight
    commodity, raw cotton travels easily, and transportation costs play little if any role in textiles
    geography. The protective tariff – strongly opposed by the slave South – was of far greater
    importance for the competitiveness of the antebellum industry
    (Harley 1992, 2001).
     

    The preceding section suggests that if slavery had been abolished nationally at the time of the Constitution, the Cotton South would have developed through family-scale farms like the rest of the country, delivering as much or perhaps more cotton to the eager textile mills of Lancashire, and building a more diverse and prosperous regional economy in the process.
     
    Slavery and Anglo-American Capitalism Revisited, Gavin Wright
  10. … you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much

    This is true but is there any evidence they ever enforce this on their own? In Africa, Latin America and the USA, left to their own devices, their worst element takes over.

    Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth … black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.

    We all assume others are just like us and it ain’t so. White (liberals) don’t understand that a Black man can take more pride in being a Bad Muthafkr than some civilized dork who follows the rules. And Black women reward them. So, it will always take external pressure.

    Shaming is part of that. And the good Blacks will welcome it (secretly).

  11. Great column, Steve, one of your best. I appreciate your use of the phrase “black fragility.” It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility–the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can’t handle the truth–is our real problem. We have gotten to the point in Bizarro America where everything that is said by the media is opposite to truth, and so we se the relentless promotion of “white fragility” and “white supremacy” as our real problems.

    Seeing of our opposite-world, I used to find it amusing that one of the most common insults the left threw at Trump was that he was thin-skinned. A rhinoceros is more thin-skinned than Trump. If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn’t have lasted a month in office.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn't ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Paperback Writer, @Russ, @bomag

    , @Jmaie
    @Harry Baldwin


    It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility–the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can’t handle the truth–is our real problem.
     
    Is it that blacks can't handle the truth, or that the rest of us don't have the balls to find out?

    Speaking of Charles Murray -- how much more cancelled do we think he can get?

    Replies: @anon

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Harry Baldwin


    If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn’t have lasted a month in office.
     
    This is because Obama is a white man disguised as a black man - he has his mother's IQ and sense of propriety and shame. Trump is temperamentally a black man - a boasting preening braggart with an unjustifiable level of self esteem and no sense of shame.
  12. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    “They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none.”
    Fella’s, it’s so simple. It’s all ball-bearings these days. (Apologies to Fletch if I misquoted) All the right people don’t have enough kids.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ron Mexico

    Haha, that Fletch line is MY BIT, Ron. I've got it down. "Ahhh, c'mon guys. Do you need a refresher course? It's ALL dysgenic Socialism nowadays!"

  13. @Achmed E. Newman
    I like your Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle regarding black people and property values.

    In groups of larger than 5% of the local population, black people can not simultaneously buy in and live in a neighborhood with high property values.
     
    I.e, they can experience high property values in a neighborhood only after they've left the neighborhood. It's just Quantum Woke Physics, what can you do?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @JMcG, @The Alarmist, @mc23

    This might not be about Heisenberg so much, Mr. Mod. And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least. A basically postmodern society, mind you, Mr. Mod, that has somehow managed to Stopp Making Sense – of the real world (that’s where Mr. Peterson kicks in (and his sidekick Camille Paglia).

    So – no Uncertainty Principle here at all; but nuclear physics nevertheless in the absolutely ironic/ sardonic/sarcastic way, Michel Houellebecq is presenting this field to us with his aptly titled novel about modern societies: Elementary Particles.****

    **** The absolute individualism as a basis for the liberal economic (and social) competition, that keeps Western societies going – up to some degree (level), and behind which lurks: Collapse (Jared Diamond), is what Michel Houllebecq dissects here as a root cause of our evils. The lack of an idea, which allows people to not only compete (not least sexually) – but to cooperate. The fun part of Mr. Houellebecqs thoughts: Sexuality (sexual longing/sexual liberation) is no form of cooperation. It is, as he shows in heartbreaking scenes of this novel, now a force of disruption. – The Summer of Love gave birth to it’s own special shortcomings. The good times don’t – roll any longer (cf.: Why don’t we do it in the Road, Some Girls, Lynnrd Skynnrd Don’t Ask me no Questions, Litttle Feet FreebirdJane Birkin / Serge Gainsbourg Je t’ Aime , Macy Gray: Sex-O-Matic Maniac …).

    This is from the White Album, ironically enough (not: from Revolver…)

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Dieter Kief

    Lowell Fulson took McCartney’s fragment of a song and elaborated on it with two more verses: “Why don’t we do it in the car? / You know we don’t have too far to go” and “Why don’t we do it in the house? / Once them doors is closed, nobody knows what it’s all about”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP9RNPx2_oA

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Dieter Kief

    I enjoy your music references, Mr. Kief. I never liked that particular Beatles song, but I will say that Freebird was the subject of the last (quick) post on Peak Stupidity. I kid you all not, I was listening to in-flight entertainment, in particular Free Bird at the time, somewhere in the middle of the Greatest Hits album* when a F/A P/A announcement came on. This was well into the flight, and someone was apparently not quite compliant enough on this mostly empty flight.

    [The music - and movie, if you were watching - gets interrupted and stopped.] "Ladies and Gentleman, PLEASE make sure that you have your face covering on, covering both your nose and mouth." / "I'm as free as a bird now ..."

    Nope, it's not the mid-1970's in the South - we are NOT as free as a bird now!


    .


    * Not the Gold & Platinum 2-record one.

    , @Currahee
    @Dieter Kief

    " And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least."

    The Negro Delusion Bubble.

  14. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    I think Steve’s mostly right. Far larger than the group you’re describing is the ordinary Americans caught between two incompatible points of view. The 17th century shitposter lays it out quite clearly: you’re either a racist or an antiracist, or trying to pretend otherwise.

    Where he’s wrong – or at least pushing uphill – is in trying to get black people to accept that they’re naturally inferior. What self-respecting black guy is going to agree with that?

    Maybe it won’t matter, if they’re a demographically-shrinking group, and the other non-white races don’t look at them through rose-tinted glasses. Perhaps in twenty years black kvetching will simply be ignored.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Blacks have never been this pedestalized, loud and aggressive, and I see no signs that their numbers are decreasing.

    The fundamental racial division on Earth is black vs non-black. That doesn't change in the US. In fact it's especially obvious in the US, even if the usual suspects try to make everything white vs non-white.

    A LOT could happen in 20 years. Personally I don't see how this country lasts that long, but if it does, then blacks will be consuming even more of the national oxygen than they do now.

  15. With a bird’s eye Marxist class analysis the deeper processes at work in the US today become clearer.

    Traditional Marxist class analysis emphasizes the bourgeoisie – proletariat opposition. On side we have capitalists who own means of production. On the other we have the productive working class whose labor is “milked” to produce surplus value upon which society feeds itself. Clearly there are other stratum of class as well. In the middle zone, the petty bourgeoisie own some means of production and they “milk” themselves and small amounts of labor for surplus value. There are also the unproductive white collar and blue-collar workers who while working and indirectly contributing to society, they do not directly produce surplus value for capitalists. At the bottom of society are the parasitical lumpenproletariat: criminals, vagabonds, DIE pimps, gangsters and other scum. Interestingly enough this class is mirrored at the top of society by lumpen-financiers. They perform the same parasitical activities as their lumpenprole cousins, but since this rentier class also controls the means of persuasion, we tend to look up to these Wall Street vultures. When lumpenproles and lumpenfinance align their interests, they form the current high-low political alignment we see in the US. And yes, given the importance of race and identity in the US, lumpenproles and lumpenfinance can be symbolically related to two particular identity groups, both of which score very highly on the ethno-narcissism index! But it is important to point out these are class and not racial relationships, any individual of any race can play any class role. Getting rid of an entire racial group will not eliminate the class they represent.

    [MORE]

    Marxist theorists-quite wrongly it turns out–believed the teleological aim of capitalism was to collapse class structure towards the bourgeoisie – proletariat binary opposition. The intermediate classes would whither away as capitalism advanced. The pipe-dream concluded when the proles gained power and Paradise Regained.

    Capitalism features some basic contradictions. In order to create surplus value, it prefers to drive the productive working classes wages down towards subsistence. On the other hand, the concept of a commodity chain means capitalists need to quickly sell those commodities their workers produce in order to recuperate—and more importantly, grow—their capital. A commodity chain needs a consumer at the end of it. At first it was the capitalists themselves, foreign markets, a middle class, etc who filled the consumption role, but eventually, thanks to Henry Ford among others, the worker’s themselves starting playing the role of consumer.

    This works well for a while. But to increase commodity consumption, capitalists are forced to increase worker salaries, and thereby reducing surplus value extraction by allowing workers to retain increasing amounts of the created surplus value. Eventually the workers gain too much wealth and power. Proles who used to willingly submit to the capitalist’s demands are getting increasingly uppity. Given their newfound ability to accumulate modest amounts of wealth, proles may start purchasing land, rental units, shops, garages, craft production facilities etc. The necessary condition for the exploitation of the proletariat is to cut them off from any other means of subsistence and therefore force them to accept the capitalist’s offer of employment. But as the proletariat gain power and wealth, they turn away from the factory floor and lean into petty bourgeois status. They steer their prole children towards white collar respectability. Soon the wealth creating ability of capitalism has damaged the “work ethic” of their proles and leaves but meager labor pickings for the basic internal combustion chamber of the entire capitalist process. A swamp of prosperity results when capitalism recycles some of the extracted surplus value back to the workers in order to fuel their consumption. It becomes more and more difficult—on the domestic market– to find docile “free” labor ready to be milked for new surplus value.

    At the point where these uppity domestic proles can’t be bothered to go to the factory anymore to get that precious surplus value milked from them, the capitalist must search elsewhere for docile and emasculated labor power. With domestic proles demanding exorbitant salaries, the previously gushing flows of surplus value are reduced to pathetic trickles. It’s hardly worth building factories for the occasional drips and drops of surplus value. Third world immigration helps some, but more is required. Enter the Communist Party of China, who kindly offer to convert their comrades into proletariats by stripping them of their “Iron Rice Bowls” and to pimp them out to Western capital on the condition that the ChiComs would get a good portion of the resulting surplus value flowing into their coffers.

    But what about the commodity chain? Those new Chinese proles need to be kept lean and mean for the next fifty years to maximize surplus value extraction, so no Fordism for them. Those now useless Americans will have to serve as the global glutton of last resort for globalization. But where will the money come from?

    Having a reserve currency helps. During those glory years of capitalism, America created quite a relatively well distributed store of wealth. And so this reserve of wealth needs to be tapped into in order to complete the commodity chain. A lot of it is in white hands. Those same whiteys who tend to be conservative about saving, which is of course why they are still holding on to this wealth.

    So the current class conflict is a remake of the primitive accumulation that occurred at end of feudalism. In the US, this is a high/low alliance of lumpenfinance and lumpenproles, let’s call them the coalition of the ethno-narcissists. Their job is to extract previously stored “petty bourgeois” wealth out of the reserves–often real estate. Stripping the middle class of their wealth is to strip them of access to any means of subsistence. And the best tool to achieve this is the racial guilt /violence pushed by lumpenproles, who also just happen to be indiscriminate consumers of capitalist commodities, and also tend to not have the future time orientation needed for wealth accumulation. This lumpenprole criminality is ideologically supported by lumpenfinance’s PR group, the corporate media. Notice in the racial riots both big box and small business were attacked. This damage is a pinprick to the gigantic merchant capitalist but is a fatal slashing of the jugular for small business. The police are a hinderance to lumpenprole wealth strip mining and so they must be brought to heel. Once the police are neutered, woke capital’s goal of stripping the middle class of their previously obtained wealth will increase in intensity. And no, placing a BLM sign in your front yard will not help you hold on to your home equity. At the end of the process, in 30 years or so, the remnants of the American middle class, now stripped of their means of subsistence, will be ready to happily march back into some new capitalists’ factories, to start the process all over again, should the capitalists be kind enough to offer them the chance.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Torn and Frayed

    Does Steve still do gold boxes? You deserve several. Seriously, Steve should promote this to a comment-post. This thesis could be expanded into a fantastic book. You would have to avoid naming the Jew, and you would have to emphasize that African-Americans were created by perfidious white, but still.

  16. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none.

    Had they had more kids, those would grow up to be racial hustlers. In the insane world we are, the fewer blacks, the better. Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones, because they will probably, on average, still not be as smart as smart whites, yet they will be accepted by the best elite colleges, and then they will resent being dumber than smart whites, blaming “society” or “institutional racism” or “white supremacist power structures” or whatever for their inferiority. Anyway, smart blacks are certainly not any better than dumb ones, because it’s an insane world.

    In a sane world, smart blacks like Condoleezza Rice not having kids while dumb blacks like Tessica Brown having many would be sad. It’s not a sane world.

    • Replies: @utu
    @reiner Tor

    "Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones" - Yes, the smart and acculturated ones may undermine your resolve during the process of ethnic cleansing or genocide, which is what this shark jumping article by Mr. Sailor leads to. You being from Hungary can see further where Mr. Sailer ideas will lead. The problem that your keen eye spotted can be overcome with discipline and lots of vodka. You will have to bite your teeth as the men from the Reserve Police Battalion 101 did to suppress scruples when executing German Jews, the scruples they did not have when dealing with Polish Jews. May 5th, 2021 will be remembered as Julius Streicher moment in Mr. Sailor career.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  17. Good for Murray – very brave. I guess that’s why it pisses me off so much that he was vehemently anti Trump. Are you trying to rehabilitate him in our eyes?

  18. So there is a fork in the road.

    I go one way I get free stuff, social status – I like being a sacred cow! – justice system favororitism, affirmative action benifits, quotas, preferances. I even get to shoot people I don’t like.

    I go the other way, i’m treated as just another ordinary human being – i lose my higher being status and all my free stuff. Not so many jobs for atheletes and musicians.

    I think i will continue going down this old road.

  19. Murray ended up being the only important American public intellectual of the last 40 years because he has been the only completely honest American public intellectual of the last 40 years.*

    *I am excluding internet rogues like Steve because I don’t think they are public in the same sense Murray has been.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Henry Canaday

    I agree about Murray - but he's almost an unperson now - his book will not be reviewed and he'll be Watsoned.

    I tend to think that he's got to the age where he thinks "F--- it, if I can't tell the truth now, when can I?".

    That's a sad sentence to write, because it means you can only speak truth these days if you have little to lose.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @cthulhu

    , @AndrewR
    @Henry Canaday

    We live in an era where the official state dogma is that there is nothing wrong with black culture. So there is literally no difference at the moment between saying "black communities suck entirely because of genetics" and "black communities suck but it has nothing to do with genetics or white people." Obviously genes aren't everything, so anyone who points out that the onus is mostly on blacks to fix their own communities is doing good work.

    Replies: @Henry Canaday

    , @e
    @Henry Canaday

    I'd add Heather MacDonald.

  20. Anonymous[426] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    Sailer can’t state the obvious during fundraising time.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous


    You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    It's not blacks that are enabling this. To state the obvious. I'll call them globohomo, or maybe just Democrats. One problem is that although big business loves growth regardless of quality, they don't need cheap labor to survive. Labor is a cost that they just pass on to customers. Farmers compete in global commodity markets and simply can't pay competitive US wages and pass them along. Farming is a backbone of red state economies. Trump simply deranged Democrats, who tried everything, finally digging out the old Civil Rights playbook. It was wildly effective because being labeled a racist is automatic cancelation. And it is approximately equivalent to being painted as a sexual pervert. Denying the charge is proof of guilt.

    But, per Steve:

    nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.
     
    So this thing has a rather short shelf life. Business, for example, is counting Women and Queer as "Diverse" so there are multiple ways to make your quotas. Immigrants aren't going to buy any of this, and they have no guilt and partial immunity.

    Even though white Democrats are playing with fire, they reckon their Chicago style solutions will always work. Heavy pressure to self segregate and haul in the Mexicans.

    Overall rather depressing. Makes globo-homo look pretty good.
  21. The oligarchs sure have put race front and center as the looting hits a fever pitch. Evidently, racial problems are the only ones have.

  22. Anonymous[273] • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry, Steve:

    One thing, I am absolutely 100% certain – no shadow of doubt whatsoever – will happen during this present century is of truly *MASSIVE* black African immigration into the USA. And also to Canada and Europe too, as it happens.

    The Economist magazine advocates it.

    And so it will come to pass. That’s all I need to base any prediction on. No need for rune stones, crystal balks, tarot, iChing, horary charts etc. This is as good as one can get to the Delphi Oracle in this world.

    • Replies: @WJ
    @Anonymous

    Low IQ south of the border type Camp of the Saint scenario is one thing. Unfettered immigration from Africa is the apocalypse scenario.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  23. Bugg says:

    As our society has slipped on the banana peel of racialist idiocy, we have long needed a Vegas bookie willing to allow wagering on outrageous gambling propositions. The latest such proposition I propose would be whether Charles Murray’s new book will be banned by Google, Amazon , the New York Times et al. They will do everything in their power to shut The Window on Professor Murray and his simple and sensible ideas. Challenging the orthodoxy on race will not be allowed.

  24. “We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.”

    Yes.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @Ian Smith

    Confining blacks to reservations will be an attractive option to the Chinese, dot-Indians and Mexicans who do not suffer from white guilt.

  25. How exactly are they going to go after Home Equity?

    A list of distinct points would go a long way to stopping that from happening.

    The difference between Conservative Columnists and the irritating liberals posting to Instagram stories is that the liberals give distinct bills and distinct things to pass…policy recs

    A big reason why they always win

    We are too generalized.

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Thoughts


    How exactly are they going to go after Home Equity?
     
    As I recall, the average home value in Ferguson, MO went from something like $75k before the Gentle Giant and $35k after. Combine that sort of thing with a Biden admin tying federal aid to municipality willingness to build Section 8 housing, and you quickly get the idea.
  26. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    Yup.

    It’s controlled demolition, all the way down.

  27. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    • Troll: Jus' Sayin'...
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    @Verity Smurf

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/0c/85/e70c85441dcc4f233c441624315128cc.jpg

    , @Getaclue
    @Verity Smurf

    Your statements are laughable -- the 1/6 bs is played out -- some clown with horns on his head walking thru doors the Cops opened up themselves to let people in and then walking inside the Velvet Ropes? Trying to make that an "Insurrection" may work for the retarded -- meanwhile Burn, Murder and Loot did $2 Billion in damages last year, murders skyrocketing, and the Head BLMer bought herself some million dollar properties/homes in the "White" part of Cali -- funny she didn't want to be with "her people" LOL -- Blacks are coddled and lied about 24/7 the truth is right there in any country they control -- a pit of garbage and despair, look up Lagos and see some pics? -- you can't keep Africans from trying to get into the USA, they desperately want to be with "Whitey" -- none going the other way of course-- oh yes -- this too -- Get lost!

    , @TWS
    @Verity Smurf

    Maybe we should all just use Tiny Duck as our tag until the most noticing man in the World notices that it is Tiny Duck.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Verity Smurf

    Are you the smurf that got the extra chromosome?

  28. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    “Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright?”

    Didn’t the recent, forgotten presidency of Donald Trump prove that life would be fine for those “not so bright”? Didn’t black unemployment drop to its lowest levels ever? Hispanic unemployment? Female unemployment?

    All it took was at least making an effort to not flood the economy with cheap foreign labor, and making the business climate more attractive. That’s all. Or am I wrong about that?

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anon7

    I see your point and think to bring work back was a good thing; to tax work less too.

    What could not be brought to a halt was the decline of black cities and neighborhoods; the riots; the devastating level of black incarceration rates, the poor school performance not least of poor blacks, and all kinds of other rather less fruitful behavior (violence, drug addiction, single mom kids....).
    As an aside: Trump got lost in the Geoge Floyd case. He tried to go with the flow - with quite disastrous results. Might have been reasonable to act this way seen from a purely tactical standpoint, with the elections in mind - I'd accept that. Ok - I know, this is a tough one (the toughest one maybe).

    Replies: @bomag

  29. OT: Today in history.

    “Most people don’t know that back in 1912, Hellmann’s mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York.This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost.The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day.The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo.”

    • Thanks: Rob McX
    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jim Don Bob

    In honor of Cinco de, I wore the same sox as on St George's Day. Well, the cheap knock-off Walmart version, anyway. Close, but no la-de-da:



    https://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/images/products/medium/1424387742-44212300.jpg

  30. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    Sadly, Murray’s book will go almost completely unnoticed.

    His last one produced a minor burp on Twitter when a trivial genetics mistake was found and rejoiced over, and then it disappeared from sight. The new one isn’t even placed with his normal publisher. I suspect Murray knew how that would end, so he just told his agent he wanted to go with a safer publisher, so tell the current publisher that and allow them to have it only if he gets a big, nonrefundable advance to compensate him for the inevitable woodyallening.

  31. Stonewall Jackson [AKA "John Dillinger"] says:

    “Unless America botches its policy on immigration from Africa”

    Are you kidding? Have you been watching the immigration follies of this stupid country since 1965’s pile of crap law through the hideous amnesty of 86 to the Act of Love Catch and Release Bush to DACA and now Biden’s administration?

    The only thing that keeps Africa from immigrating here is the distance and cost… oh and the proximity to Europe’s welfare states.

    Let’s get Ronnie Unz on this… you there Ronnie? Why do Africans not have a right to come and squat here like your beloved Cholos? Oh… you don’t like Muslims or blacks?

    See dope… the immigration system doesn’t just immigrate your beloved cholos who are lowering the IQ of your stupid state as I type this… no… it loves all replacement brown people.

    So whatever… there’s lots of Omar Wife of her Brothers in Minnesota’s future..

  32. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Poetry. Thanks.

  33. “I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness.” The only part of Howl that makes sense. Most of the people I went to school with in the 60s have gone absolutely batshit crazy with wokeness. No cure in sight. They’re in complete denial for the most part. Reinforcing shots of state and media propaganda delivered daily. The pendulum will swing back, but not in my lifetime.

    • Replies: @Seneca44
    @Dan Smith

    Yes, it’s a real shame to see people I formerly viewed as reasonably intelligent peers get lost in a forest of innumeracy overlaid with what they think is objective news from sources like CNN. They really don’t think any of this (unfettered immigration, homo/tranny worship, reverse racism with negroes) is ever going to affect them or their children.

  34. Whomever speaks plainly to blacks should also inform them about who deftly weaponized them against Whites.

    Hint: they founded the NAACP

  35. @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This might not be about Heisenberg so much, Mr. Mod. And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least. A basically postmodern society, mind you, Mr. Mod, that has somehow managed to Stopp Making Sense - of the real world (that's where Mr. Peterson kicks in (and his sidekick Camille Paglia).

    So - no Uncertainty Principle here at all; but nuclear physics nevertheless in the absolutely ironic/ sardonic/sarcastic way, Michel Houellebecq is presenting this field to us with his aptly titled novel about modern societies: Elementary Particles.****


    **** The absolute individualism as a basis for the liberal economic (and social) competition, that keeps Western societies going - up to some degree (level), and behind which lurks: Collapse (Jared Diamond), is what Michel Houllebecq dissects here as a root cause of our evils. The lack of an idea, which allows people to not only compete (not least sexually) - but to cooperate. The fun part of Mr. Houellebecqs thoughts: Sexuality (sexual longing/sexual liberation) is no form of cooperation. It is, as he shows in heartbreaking scenes of this novel, now a force of disruption. - The Summer of Love gave birth to it's own special shortcomings. The good times don't - roll any longer (cf.: Why don't we do it in the Road, Some Girls, Lynnrd Skynnrd Don't Ask me no Questions, Litttle Feet FreebirdJane Birkin / Serge Gainsbourg Je t' Aime , Macy Gray: Sex-O-Matic Maniac ...).

    This is from the White Album, ironically enough (not: from Revolver...)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4E6KtQg_z0

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman, @Currahee

    Lowell Fulson took McCartney’s fragment of a song and elaborated on it with two more verses: “Why don’t we do it in the car? / You know we don’t have too far to go” and “Why don’t we do it in the house? / Once them doors is closed, nobody knows what it’s all about”.

  36. I’ve been an iStever for nearly a decade and this is possibly his strongest piece.

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @james wilson
    @Neuday

    This is the piece where he threw in the towel and said "fuck it".

  37. By far the most sensible cultural and policy recommendations on race I’ve read in my lifetime, and I’m a middle-aged man. That’s why it will be resolutely ignored, and Murray will be tarred and feathered when his book comes out, or possibly censored and blocked out if they think even that won’t suffice.

    Who has the stones to make the case for HBD meaning different racial endowments and these consequences? Everybody knows this on some level, even the hardcore liberals who then don’t send their kids to the public school, but it takes a particularly clear-eyed society to embrace this.

    I cannot think of a human society even a tenth as big as the US that came anywhere close though, so it will not happen in this media and cultural climate. Maybe someday with new technology when one can broadcast these ideas anonymously or under a pseudonym, and others can publicly agree while similarly hidden, but we’re currently heading in the opposite direction with our degenerating populace who can think and debased social media.

  38. blacks tend to be lousier neighbors.

    I’m surprised you haven’t already been dragged off to the gulag for typing that.

    Fortunately, there is an obvious win-win solution: If blacks want to make more money off home ownership, they should work harder at being better neighbors.

    Said by someone with White Privilege™️.

    … nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    That should be obvious after 60 years of resource-rich Africa being run by Africans who didn’t have the “benefit” of the pathologies of Racist America.

  39. “I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. . . . Two of them had one kid, and one had none.”

    I admit it; I had to read that twice. I knew that the first meaning I derived was probably not what was intended.

    • LOL: ArthurinCali
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @I, Libertine

    "Frankenstein scores at last!"

  40. @Henry Canaday
    Murray ended up being the only important American public intellectual of the last 40 years because he has been the only completely honest American public intellectual of the last 40 years.*

    *I am excluding internet rogues like Steve because I don’t think they are public in the same sense Murray has been.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AndrewR, @e

    I agree about Murray – but he’s almost an unperson now – his book will not be reviewed and he’ll be Watsoned.

    I tend to think that he’s got to the age where he thinks “F— it, if I can’t tell the truth now, when can I?“.

    That’s a sad sentence to write, because it means you can only speak truth these days if you have little to lose.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose..."

    , @cthulhu
    @YetAnotherAnon


    I tend to think that he’s got to the age where he [Murray] thinks “F— it, if I can’t tell the truth now, when can I?”
     
    Murray said as much in his previous book, Human Diversity. His wife had been remonstrating with him about why he shouldn’t be painting a target on his back, then the Middlebury kerfuffle happen, and his wife immediately removed her objections.

    I think the new book will have little immediate effect, but it will be denounced enough that some people who otherwise wouldn’t pay attention will decide that anything so hated must have something interesting going on, will read it, and will start having doubts. I’ve long felt the whole woke/CRT nexus is the last gasp of the blank slate believers before the tide of GWAS washes them away. The worry is whether the woke will manage to irretrievably ruin the US before they are consigned to the dustbin of history. I’m less optimistic about us surviving with a free country than I used to be :-(
  41. You cannot have simultaneously a stable & prosperous democratic society and a big chunk of blacks. Brazil has no Woke stuff and yet …..

    No amount of truth in the media matters.

    With blacks, for more or less prosperous & stable society, one has to ditch liberal democracy & constantly monitor/police one’s African population in a sort of racially segregated & whites-ruled country.

    Or- prosperity without blacks & collapse of a society with humanistically- democratically treated blacks.

  42. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There’s no “botching” of immigration from Africa going on.

    They want to destroy the middle class. The elite believe we have no more right to our middle class status than third worlders do and as living standards rise in the third world they want to drag us down so there is less of an environmental impact. They are more than a little defensive about the alarms the “In the future, you will own nothing and you will be happy” video from the World Economic Forum raised. It would be good to start labeling the elites strategy as “Neo-Feudalism” as you point out it may not be well organized, but it is without question their goal.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Barnard


    They want to destroy the middle class.
     
    BINGO!

    Same thing - I don't think this is all planned out, though these elites do get together on occasion. All of them resent any middle class White people that have disposable income, the tendency to care about their people and form associations of all sorts, including political, and compete with the elite's Big Biz corporations.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Barnard

    Yes, the elites have no intention of handing power over to blacks, they just want to weaken competition from ambitious talented whites. The elite basically wants to return to some version of pre-19th century Europe when aristocratic families could trade land and people back and forth and had more loyally to their own social class than any racial or ethnic identity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sean

  43. Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    • Agree: Paleo Retiree
    • LOL: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason


    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.
     
    Lol. Which black church do you attend?

    Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright, the "pastor" of our foremost African-American, Barack Obama, is typical.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Jonathan Mason

    More often than not Negro churches are part of the problem and epitomize its ineradicable nature. The "ministers" in these operations more often than not are hypocrites, preaching a disciplined and moral life style for their congregations that they eschew for themselves.

    Negro churches in the USA are generally run on the "Big Man" principle which has usually governed the structure and operation of Negro institutions around the world and throughout history. In populations with an average IQ of somewhere between 80 and 90, and characterized by poor impulse control, a limited time horizon, and an unrealistically inflated sense of self-worth, a majority of that population's members will not be particularly effective at running their lives productively and in a manner that benefits their fellows. Strong and effective leaders are required but these will necessarily be rare in such populations.

    As a result the "Big Man" system has come to characterize Negro institutions including African tribal chiefdoms and kingdoms, Negro political machines and labor unions, Negro churches, and Negro-run "civil rights" organizations. These all tend to be organized and led by one "Big Man" who exercises absolute control over the organization, its operation, and its interactions with the outside world. He is richly rewarded for this with control of the organization's wealth and more often than not unlimited sexual access to the group's women.

    The "Big Man" is assisted by a small band of associates who are selected, serve and are discharged at his whim. The "Big Man" rewards and controls these cronies with carefully limited access to the group's wealth and women. The only significant change to this system in the USA is the rise of "Big Women" in some operations, e.g., Stacey Abrams and Oprah Winfrey.

    , @Currahee
    @Jonathan Mason

    Religion, to negroes, is a mostly musical experience.

    , @Redman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Of course there was Bill Cosby too. He was probably the most positive black role model of the 1980s.

    But look what happened to him...

    , @Barnard
    @Jonathan Mason

    Buying Steve a new Honda Accord would be a great deal for a congregation that gets asked to buy a Gulfstream jet for Creflo Dollar.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/local/creflo-dollar-ministry-says-will-get-his-million-jet/Z1Oa81oGK9BYz1LO4KswAK/

  44. eric says:

    While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.

    Is there any data on African average income by country? Is there any country where their income is significantly higher than the US? I know it varies by metric, such as using the FX exchange rate or some other exchange rate (eg, the cost of a McDonald’s hamburger).

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @eric

    It is a daft argument. Hardly anyone thinks, "Hey, I am wealthier than a garbage collector in Kinshasha so everything is good". They think about their immediate neighbors, fellow city inhabitants and sometimes fellow citizens at a national level.

    , @Fredrik
    @eric

    No way there's any country where that happens except perhaps Canada or the UK.

    Other countries with small black 'diasporas' have them on the bottom of society.

    No country in Africa has as a high GDP per capita. Botswana and Equatorial Guinea who are small countries with lots of resources are still ways behind.

    The richest African nations are the small island nations Seychelles and Mauritius. Both of them have significant Indian populations. I believe Mauritius is majority Hindu. Both these countries are richer than Mexico but poorer than Costa Rica.

    , @Anonymous
    @eric

    R u kidding ?

    Literally take any African or majority black Caribbean nation and look it up

    Not remotely close.

  45. @Henry Canaday
    Murray ended up being the only important American public intellectual of the last 40 years because he has been the only completely honest American public intellectual of the last 40 years.*

    *I am excluding internet rogues like Steve because I don’t think they are public in the same sense Murray has been.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AndrewR, @e

    We live in an era where the official state dogma is that there is nothing wrong with black culture. So there is literally no difference at the moment between saying “black communities suck entirely because of genetics” and “black communities suck but it has nothing to do with genetics or white people.” Obviously genes aren’t everything, so anyone who points out that the onus is mostly on blacks to fix their own communities is doing good work.

    • Replies: @Henry Canaday
    @AndrewR

    Changing black culture and behavior would help hugely, as would changing the institutions, like public schools, and laws, like our promiscuous welfare system, that abet this culture. But it would not equalize black average incomes with those of other groups or equalize college attendance rates, absent racial preferences.

  46. @Harry Baldwin
    Great column, Steve, one of your best. I appreciate your use of the phrase "black fragility." It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility--the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can't handle the truth--is our real problem. We have gotten to the point in Bizarro America where everything that is said by the media is opposite to truth, and so we se the relentless promotion of "white fragility" and "white supremacy" as our real problems.

    Seeing of our opposite-world, I used to find it amusing that one of the most common insults the left threw at Trump was that he was thin-skinned. A rhinoceros is more thin-skinned than Trump. If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn't have lasted a month in office.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jmaie, @Peter Akuleyev

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn’t ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @AndrewR

    Was Trump thick-skinned or thin-skinned? Do blacks have high self esteem or low self esteem?

    Discuss in no more than 10,000 words.

    Reaction formation.

    In psychoanalytic theory, reaction formation (German: Reaktionsbildung) is a defense mechanism in which emotions and impulses which are anxiety-producing or perceived to be unacceptable are mastered by exaggeration of the directly opposing tendency.

    The reaction formations belong to Level 3 of neurotic defense mechanisms, which also include dissociation, displacement, intellectualization, and repression. [Wikipedia]

    So which is it? Does Trump have incredibly high self-esteem, so that all attacks or criticism are mere pinpricks or does he use bluster and misdirection to cover up his sense of inadequacy?

    Perhaps a clue might be his tendency to lean towards paranoid conspiracy theories, which are the ultimate form of reaction formation.

    "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!"

    https://youtu.be/h6BJJe9JV_A

    Now as far as black people and their self-esteem. Is the appearance of arrogance and confidence a reflection of self-image, or is it merely an aggressive defense strategy.

    I have spent quite a bit of my life in the company of black people, both at work and socially, for example when I lived in Bermuda for 11 years, or in the Dominican Republic for 4 years, or in the USA for many years, and in my personal opinion, it is mostly, but not always, bluster concealing an inner sense of inadequacy.

    However, I don't think this is confined to blacks at all. It is also quite common in white Americans. For example many civilian people have a kind of obsession with the military, and like to wear camouflage suits and boots, put military bumper stickers or veterans tags on their cars, wear military haircuts, fly flags on poles outside their homes, or even post signs outside their homes saying that trespassers will be shot on sight ( I guess they do not get deliveries from Amazon.)

    This comes across as projecting a display of strength hiding a sense of inferiority, like a dog barking loudly as it retreats.

    So, yeah, to me it seems that a lot of black self-esteem is actually a primitive defense mechanism to protect the individual from anxiety.

    For example the person who says that rap music is the best music and the best poetry in the world is probably not comparing it objectively to Bach or Shakespeare, which they do not even understand.

    However remember that there are also some jazz musicians who can effortlessly improvise variations on the fly in a way that is stunning to classical musicians, and they probably do have very high self esteem, and deservedly so.

    https://youtu.be/ke2_qob16ls

    Tatum apparently could not read music as he was "legally" blind.

    Replies: @Redman

    , @Paperback Writer
    @AndrewR

    Don't forget FDR:

    "I welcome their hate."

    A real leader takes it on the chin, wipes it off, and moves on. Trump was a FRAUD.

    , @Russ
    @AndrewR


    Gimme a break. Obama wasn’t ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.
     
    No, because Obama at 3pm was whining to an obeisant press about how sensitive he was about the size of his ears. The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant ...

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    , @bomag
    @AndrewR

    Defending yourself is not a bad instinct.

  47. Jamal and Yoshio decide to drive to the shops. Jamal uses a Volvo. Yoshio uses a Porsche. Yoshio will tend to get there quicker. This doesn’t hurt Jamal. It just is.

    We aren’t responsible for the processing power in our brains, nor does it define our existential worth.

    Indeed, we need not obsess over who gets where first at all. We can just work to make the road smoother and the shop better.

  48. ONCE AGAIN CALIFORNIA SOLVES TO THE LOWEST COMMIN DENOMINATOR

    “In the Name of Equity, California Will Discourage Students Who Are Gifted at Math”

    https://reason.com/2021/05/04/california-math-framework-woke-equity-calculus/

  49. @eric

    While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Is there any data on African average income by country? Is there any country where their income is significantly higher than the US? I know it varies by metric, such as using the FX exchange rate or some other exchange rate (eg, the cost of a McDonald's hamburger).

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Fredrik, @Anonymous

    It is a daft argument. Hardly anyone thinks, “Hey, I am wealthier than a garbage collector in Kinshasha so everything is good”. They think about their immediate neighbors, fellow city inhabitants and sometimes fellow citizens at a national level.

  50. A lotta posters here don’t like blacks…..perhaps for justifiable reasons. I grew up around many and many are salt of the earth types….blue collar church people…..at least in the south.

    Youngish black dudes are real nerdy…..into comics/anime/video games etc so i connect with many of them on that level.

    I think as a whole they’ve gotten their fertility issue under control so now they’re working on 1 thing at a time.

    Sadly with automation and inflation and deflation they’re going to be hardest hit….

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Neoconned

    I grew up going to various South/Central Seattle public schools that were 30-50% Black. At the time, there were virtually no Blacks in the private school system, so I had many years exposure to the full range of the Black bell curve (also before the ones at the bottom dropped out or ended up in prison - the menially employed Blacks that Whites interact with are far from the bottom of the Black bell curve).

    In a very traditional, less permissive society I think most could do OK. But unlike, say, Fancy Asians and most Whites, changes in cultural standards, crime enforcement etc can have huge consequences. (Same goes for low-IQ Whites - see Murray’s “Coming Apart”). And I think that’s the whole point of Steve’s article.

    In 1980s and 1990s Seattle the victimhood-blame-Whitey cult was in full swing, along with complete lack of discipline in the classroom. If the class was all White/Asian things more or less held together. But for the vast majority of Blacks it was most iSteve readers’ worst nightmare. I was there. I know.

    FWIW: living in big cities I’ve worked for a couple genuinely talented (and very dark skinned) Blacks that I believe would have ended up in the same place even absent Affirmative Action. But at the same time I know the law of averages always wins. And for the law of averages, I draw on my experiences from middle school and high school. Yes there were nerds and salt of the earth types, but not nearly enough, and many of them still couldn’t read at 16.

    Replies: @TWS, @R.G. Camara

  51. Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility.

    Blacks have weaponized this pretense of black fragility to gain power over what white people are allowed to say. The n-word is a prime example. Blacks pretend they’re traumatized if they hear a white person say the n-word, as though they were emotionally disturbed children. In reality, they just enjoy bullying white people.

  52. “ Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa”

    Is there any doubt?

    • Agree: Charon
  53. One quibble Steve, America’s policy on Africa is to import as many Africans as possible as only one component of the Great Replacement. Therefore the policy is not being botched, it’s presently going swimmingly.
    The sentence should read: “If America botches its policy on African immigration, we won’t again face….”

  54. Steve, great column. In many respects, this is your version of Derbyshire’s “The Talk” column.

  55. @Jonathan Mason
    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Currahee, @Redman, @Barnard

    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Lol. Which black church do you attend?

    Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright, the “pastor” of our foremost African-American, Barack Obama, is typical.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    I think Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church is atypical, being a high-profile Church in a major city that was attended at some point by Barack Obama, who probably chose that church because of its high profile and because membership would give access to Black voters.

    I'm not sure that means that his church is typical of the typical AME or Pentecostal churches that most black people attend.

    I don't attend any church, but many years ago I did go to a few AME services and some other black Anglican funerals and weddings.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  56. Recently banned from FB for 30 days.

    So far as I can tell, suggesting that any ethnic or national group has any characteristics in common is forbidden. Trump unpersoned by the Maoists.

    Simultaneously, diversity is our greatest strength.

  57. After decades of being half in and half out of the neocon closet, Murray has finally stepped out completely. Better late than never, but he’s still a gutless (partial grade) wonder!

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Dan Hayes

    Neocon? How so?

  58. Anon[342] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Now California wants to ban advanced math classes. It has been pointed out this is actually an act aimed at sabotaging Asians and whites, in the same way getting rid of SAT scores to get into colleges is aimed at replacing Asians and whites with blacks and Hispanics.

    Nobody ever forced blacks and Hispanics to take calculus in high school, and they almost never did choose to take calculus. This has no effect at all on them. But it will injure smart Asians and whites who would take those classes.

    https://mishtalk.com/economics/to-promote-equality-california-proposes-a-ban-on-advanced-math-classes

    Pretty soon, there will be a flood of whites and Asians leaving California for other states just to get an education.

    By the way, I predicted cash-strapped coastal libtard states would eventually start firing teachers to cut costs after their efforts to defend the police. It looks like they’re going to start with the Math teachers, but they are calling it social justice to disguise what they’re doing, which is plain old-fashioned cost-cutting.

    The science teachers are likely to be next, those that teach physics and chemistry. Blacks and Hispanics are less likely to take those courses.

    • Replies: @joe_mama
    @Anon

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in "nice" areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    I believe it's largely because of Common Core curriculums that have already gutted and ruined math. This will largely have a bigger impact. How will CA ethnics respond though? Maybe it'll cause pushback against woke stuff? But if history is any indication it probably won't.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Anon, @Hi There

    , @Rob
    @Anon

    While math was never my best subject, grading is more objective than many other subjects. It is very hard to weigh the grades in favor of blacks. Like, white kids will compare their tests to the test of the black kid who got an A and do horrible things, they will do stuff like notice the black kid got 8/10 points on long answer questions he left blank. The black kids’ wrong answers are marked right. Because black kids, especially boys, are less conscientious than whites, the teachers cannot even allow makeup work, or blacks will blow it off and whites won’t.

    An English essay is much different. Not only do the teachers lean more towards GoodWhite-hood, maybe this short essay really was better than a longer essay? There is some subjectivity of grading, and the teachers may not even know how biased they are in favor of blacks. I don’t mean blacks make A’s and whites make C’s. I mean whites deserve their A-, but blacks don’t earn their C+.

    Whatever comparative cognitive deficiencies blacks have, they are much less clear in language than in say, math, science, and logic. Possibly because spoken language is a core part of cognition. Maybe blacks are relatively strong in language the way NE Asians are relatively strong visuospatially.

    I do wonder why black boys are less conscientious than girls. It could just be that males were not selected for conscientiousness, and indeed, low conscientiousness was beneficial for males. It could be that teenage black males excel in some of the key teenage male domains like sports, insouciance, intrasex competition, in ways that black females do not excel in female domains like being pretty. I think black males who go to integrated schools experience a big drop in relative status when no one cares about athletic ability. That must be hard on them.

    Replies: @Anon

  59. In my experience, most ordinary black Americans really don’t have a huge problem with blunt/un-PC talk about detrimental black behavior. It’s the black political class and talented tenth types that come up with convoluted theories as to why all that ails blacks are exogenous factors.

    The biggest problem with the former is that although they notice the differences in behavior that handicap whatever potential exists, many really don’t do much other than shake their heads about it.

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Arclight

    In the 1980s, it seemed like there was a lot more open talk among blacks (artists, intellectuals, film makers) about the problems within the black community.

    Think about Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing." Although the film had a lot of flaws, its treatment of race was more honest than today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbvT6YKPzk

    Sweet Dick Willie: "It's goddamned Miller Time you mutha f#!kers. Hey Kung Fu. Give me a beer."

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Arclight

  60. @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason


    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.
     
    Lol. Which black church do you attend?

    Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright, the "pastor" of our foremost African-American, Barack Obama, is typical.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    I think Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church is atypical, being a high-profile Church in a major city that was attended at some point by Barack Obama, who probably chose that church because of its high profile and because membership would give access to Black voters.

    I’m not sure that means that his church is typical of the typical AME or Pentecostal churches that most black people attend.

    I don’t attend any church, but many years ago I did go to a few AME services and some other black Anglican funerals and weddings.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason

    Okay, so if I follow this, in order to get "access to black voters" one must join an "atypcial" black church.

    But rather than engage in a d**k-measuring contest about who has encountered more and more influential black pastors, why don't we check what blacks themselves say ...

    For one recent example, Rev. Raphael Warnock was recently elected to the Senate from Georgia with overwhelming black support, which we may take as an endorsement of his views by churchgoing blacks. His view of Wright is that he is within the “truth-telling tradition of the Black church.”

  61. What they could benefit from more of is criticism.

    Even more true for another group.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @John Gruskos

    Even more true for another group.

    Nu, I'm listening.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

  62. Moreover, there is the Heisenbergian factor: If a lot of blacks had moved into the neighborhood, it wouldn’t have gone up in value as much. The fundamental reason that homes don’t appreciate as fast in blacker neighborhoods is not their tragic dirt, but because blacks tend to be lousier neighbors. Fortunately, there is an obvious win-win solution: If blacks want to make more money off home ownership, they should work harder at being better neighbors.

    Here’s what I don’t understand about the home equity complaint – if blacks bought low value houses in black neighborhoods regardless of the reason (redlining, or because blacks like being around other blacks), didn’t blacks experience a benefit insofar as homeownership was cheaper relative to the general population, and the cost of housing as a fraction of the family budget was much lower than that of the general population?

    All else equal, blacks would have had a premium of liquid capital to invest in other things (or to waste on conspicuous consumption of consumer goods that don’t hold value).

    Further, are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances? My experience is that this thing is still quite rare, and that home equity usually gets converted into a fund for support in retirement for most middle class families if it survives sending the kids to Ivy League State. On the whole, the main economic advantage of substantial home equity among middle class families would be the ability to borrow against it for entrepreneurial endeavors, most of which fail anyway and wind up wiping out the family financially.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @anon
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Here’s what I don’t understand about the home equity complaint

    Your mere numbers and facts are no match for Teh Feelze of Kangs, dude!

    FEELZE! OF! KANGZ!

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Here’s what I don’t understand about the home equity complaint –
     
    No, your analysis is correct: there is no substance to the home equity complaint. What you may not understand is that the complaint is never made in good faith. To the extent they are aware of anything, the people complaining are aware that the complaint is balderdash, and they don't want you to examine it in any detail. They just want you to submit.
    , @photondancer
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    "are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances?"

    Someone posted figures in the inheritance thread from a couple of days ago, see towards the end. They claim the median inheritance in the USA is less than $70000.

  63. About that immigration policy…

    When blacks are in complete charge of the federal government (President, 9-4 majority on SC), look for immigration to come exclusively from Africa. How? By applying the Ruth Ginsberg rule. When asked how many women should be on the Court, she responded that “nine” would be appropriate, because we have to consider that there was a period in the past where only men were selected. Thus she cloaked an actual policy goal in the guise of a tongue-in-cheek comment.

    Thus exclusive African immigration is needed to make amends for the years of exclusive European immigration.

    As always, radicals and Marxists don’t actually support “non-discrimination” policies, but turning the tables.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Scott in PA

    I have to disagree with you. American blacks and African immigrants do not get along. Having grown up being much more a member of their ethnic group than ‘black,’ black Africans frequently think American blacks are obsessed with race. There is a huge class difference between African immigrants and native blacks. Poor villagers cannot get here. They cannot afford the plane ticket. They cannot read the forms. There is not a huge native demand for Illegal Africans among American employers, so there are no coyotes who will loan money, though the coyote thing might change. Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements, and illegal blacks are worthless for that. The political class blacks may think that more black bodies is an unalloyed good, but most blacks realize that they are up against African blacks for limited diversity slots.

    Nigerians, especially, do not see American whites as ruthless oppressors. They see us as gullible marks, not loyal to our people and too dumb to have children, After all, we let them in, did we not?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  64. We’ve tried lying and look where that has gotten us.

    It’s gotten us to a pretty bad place, but it’s gotten blacks to the pinnacle of society. As you write: “beneath agency but above criticism.”

    Our American political life is now entirely captive to a movement ostensibly about an epidemic of white police (N.B. all police are “white adjacent”) hunting and killing blacks for no good reason, but we can see with our own eyes that the proposition of the movement is really “black people can do whatever they want.”

    Being obnoxious and leaning into their antisocial, lawless behavior has gotten them this far, why would they stop now?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    ...but we can see with our own eyes that the proposition of the movement is really “black people can do whatever they want.”

    "...Each did what was right in his own eyes..."

    As you write: “beneath agency but above criticism.”

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-power-is-being-able-to-say-complete-and-utter-nonsense-and-have-it-be-believed-powerlessness-catharine-mackinnon-85-93-34.jpg

  65. Since 1865, there has been a sharply negative correlation between how many slaves a state had and its current prosperity: Compare slave-free Minnesota to its partner in alliteration, slave-rich Mississippi.

    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    Hence the gold rush to extract as much as imaginable from the net worth of naive whites before the country is taken over by cynical immigrant nonwhites who will laugh at black claims.

    Ah, finally Sailerist x-ray vision discloses the truth.

    What can be done instead?

    Huh? Whaddya mean “instead”? What’s happening is what the Establishment wants. They don’t want “instead” and have no intention of letting “instead” happen.

    First, we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else. While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.

    Black gratitude. Is on no one’s agenda.

    Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility. Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth—Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.

    As inter-racial crime is now deemed infinitely more heinous than intra-racial crime*, I would settle for blacks just not shooting the rest of us so goddamn much.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.

    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level during the past decade. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.

    The reason nobody has noticed it is that it is not quite true. First, if you look closely at HailToYou’s chart, you’ll notice that the black fertility dip “below replacement” is only very tiny and only very recent: i.e., in the two or three years after the actual 2010 census figures were collated, so it involves a lot of projections, assumptions and estimates. Hail notes that actual births to black mothers were 14.8% of all births in 2013 (the final year of his chart and “lowest” year of black fertility). But the black portion of the population that year was about 12.9%, so on that figure alone blacks are actually breeding above their portion of the population, irrespective of whatever the fertility estimates say.

    Second, if you read Hail’s fine print carefully, you’ll note that as births are recorded by mother’s race but not all mothers have mated intra-racially, a significant chuck of births are not ethnically the same as their mothers (10% in the case of non-Hispanic whites). Given what we know about the unequal balance of trade in women between races, and what we know of the propensity of (and incentives for) children of black men to identify racially with their (often absent) black fathers, this little fact alone more than covers the tiny and putative black fertility dip below replacement.

    Then third, as other commenters have mentioned, African (and Caribbean) immigration is not only going to be “botched”, botching is the plan, the plan is to go big on botching, and the plan is already underway. As we speak, Biden is raising “refugee” limits to the sky and simultaneously gutting any restraint that said “limits” actually impose.

    So, each of these three points more than erases the apparent “below replacement” dip in black fertility individually, and all three points together decisively counteract act it. As has been the case for the last 90 years, the black portion of the US will continue to grow. And will do so at everyone else’s expense.

    Fourth, we must understand that if you want integration, you must have law and order.

    Surely you’ve noticed that as of last year, law and order is firmly off the menu?

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.

    Downsides? Oh wait, who’s this “we”?

    Instead, we should make clear that all races are entitled to the equal protection of the laws and that no race is above the law.

    Oh man, that is so over. And never coming back.

    Fifth, we need intellectuals to tell the truth.

    That would require 99% of “intellectuals” to pivot 180 degrees on the most important pillars on which they built their careers. So, in other words, this ain’t happening.

    So, in summary, five good and true points. None of them will happen. Therefore things will continue to move along the present trajectory. Plan accordingly.

    ——

    *Of course, this is not quite true, though it is often presented this way. The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they’re not quite ready to say so plainly. Soon though, I’m sure.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    You are fucking stupid. The fertility rate is calculated relative to mortality rate, not demographic cohort size. Blacks have a higher mortality rate than do whites. Also, a larger share of black women give birth to children whose fathers are of another ethnicity, than do white women.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Almost Missouri

    A.M., I didn't realize that link in the Takimag column went to Mr. Hail's site. Thanks for your info (and to Mr. Hail in absentia). I have MY spidey sense, and it says black demographics, even native, are going to get even more overwhelming. OK, maybe not in California - great for Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz.

    , @Charon
    @Almost Missouri



    The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they’re not quite ready to say so plainly.
     
    They have already said it countless times, with deeds not words.
  66. Anonymous[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    “Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate, than that these people are to be free; nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of destruction between them”.

    ~T.J.

  67. Steve, you’re assuming there’s adults left in charge or that they don’t hate us.

    Of course they hate us. Wait until AOC is in charge. That larper TD will sound like the voice of reason

  68. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Since 1865, there has been a sharply negative correlation between how many slaves a state had and its current prosperity: Compare slave-free Minnesota to its partner in alliteration, slave-rich Mississippi.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    Hence the gold rush to extract as much as imaginable from the net worth of naive whites before the country is taken over by cynical immigrant nonwhites who will laugh at black claims.
     
    Ah, finally Sailerist x-ray vision discloses the truth.

    What can be done instead?
     
    Huh? Whaddya mean "instead"? What's happening is what the Establishment wants. They don't want "instead" and have no intention of letting "instead" happen.

    First, we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else. While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Black gratitude. Is on no one's agenda.

    Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility. Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth—Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.
     
    As inter-racial crime is now deemed infinitely more heinous than intra-racial crime*, I would settle for blacks just not shooting the rest of us so goddamn much.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level during the past decade. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.
     
    The reason nobody has noticed it is that it is not quite true. First, if you look closely at HailToYou's chart, you'll notice that the black fertility dip "below replacement" is only very tiny and only very recent: i.e., in the two or three years after the actual 2010 census figures were collated, so it involves a lot of projections, assumptions and estimates. Hail notes that actual births to black mothers were 14.8% of all births in 2013 (the final year of his chart and "lowest" year of black fertility). But the black portion of the population that year was about 12.9%, so on that figure alone blacks are actually breeding above their portion of the population, irrespective of whatever the fertility estimates say.

    Second, if you read Hail's fine print carefully, you'll note that as births are recorded by mother's race but not all mothers have mated intra-racially, a significant chuck of births are not ethnically the same as their mothers (10% in the case of non-Hispanic whites). Given what we know about the unequal balance of trade in women between races, and what we know of the propensity of (and incentives for) children of black men to identify racially with their (often absent) black fathers, this little fact alone more than covers the tiny and putative black fertility dip below replacement.

    Then third, as other commenters have mentioned, African (and Caribbean) immigration is not only going to be "botched", botching is the plan, the plan is to go big on botching, and the plan is already underway. As we speak, Biden is raising "refugee" limits to the sky and simultaneously gutting any restraint that said "limits" actually impose.

    So, each of these three points more than erases the apparent "below replacement" dip in black fertility individually, and all three points together decisively counteract act it. As has been the case for the last 90 years, the black portion of the US will continue to grow. And will do so at everyone else's expense.

    Fourth, we must understand that if you want integration, you must have law and order.
     
    Surely you've noticed that as of last year, law and order is firmly off the menu?

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.
     
    Downsides? Oh wait, who's this "we"?

    Instead, we should make clear that all races are entitled to the equal protection of the laws and that no race is above the law.
     
    Oh man, that is so over. And never coming back.

    Fifth, we need intellectuals to tell the truth.
     
    That would require 99% of "intellectuals" to pivot 180 degrees on the most important pillars on which they built their careers. So, in other words, this ain't happening.

    So, in summary, five good and true points. None of them will happen. Therefore things will continue to move along the present trajectory. Plan accordingly.

    ------

    *Of course, this is not quite true, though it is often presented this way. The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they're not quite ready to say so plainly. Soon though, I'm sure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman, @Charon

    You are fucking stupid. The fertility rate is calculated relative to mortality rate, not demographic cohort size. Blacks have a higher mortality rate than do whites. Also, a larger share of black women give birth to children whose fathers are of another ethnicity, than do white women.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous


    The fertility rate is calculated relative to mortality rate, not demographic cohort size.
     
    Fertility rate is the expected (i.e., estimated) number of lifetime births per woman.

    Blacks have a higher mortality rate than do whites.
     
    Black and white life expectancy is almost the same now. But that is irrelevant to fertility in any case.

    Also, a larger share of black women give birth to children whose fathers are of another ethnicity, than do white women.
     
    Cite?
  69. Carol says:

    I have to disagree re black self esteem because it’s obvious that younger black women are having a tragicomic meltdown over their hair.

    Just look at the clownish hairdos they’re wearing on TV now, the object being to make as much of it visible to the camera as possible, in red, yellow and orange side-bubbles. They go to such extremes that I have to lol.

  70. @Jonathan Mason
    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Currahee, @Redman, @Barnard

    More often than not Negro churches are part of the problem and epitomize its ineradicable nature. The “ministers” in these operations more often than not are hypocrites, preaching a disciplined and moral life style for their congregations that they eschew for themselves.

    Negro churches in the USA are generally run on the “Big Man” principle which has usually governed the structure and operation of Negro institutions around the world and throughout history. In populations with an average IQ of somewhere between 80 and 90, and characterized by poor impulse control, a limited time horizon, and an unrealistically inflated sense of self-worth, a majority of that population’s members will not be particularly effective at running their lives productively and in a manner that benefits their fellows. Strong and effective leaders are required but these will necessarily be rare in such populations.

    As a result the “Big Man” system has come to characterize Negro institutions including African tribal chiefdoms and kingdoms, Negro political machines and labor unions, Negro churches, and Negro-run “civil rights” organizations. These all tend to be organized and led by one “Big Man” who exercises absolute control over the organization, its operation, and its interactions with the outside world. He is richly rewarded for this with control of the organization’s wealth and more often than not unlimited sexual access to the group’s women.

    The “Big Man” is assisted by a small band of associates who are selected, serve and are discharged at his whim. The “Big Man” rewards and controls these cronies with carefully limited access to the group’s wealth and women. The only significant change to this system in the USA is the rise of “Big Women” in some operations, e.g., Stacey Abrams and Oprah Winfrey.

  71. The fundamental reason that homes don’t appreciate as fast in blacker neighborhoods is not their tragic dirt, but because blacks tend to be lousier neighbors.

    I don’t think it’s the black homeowners themselves that cause the problem, but their family, friends, and acquaintances. It not the nice family with the neat lawn. It’s their daughter’s spray-painting boyfriend, their son’s drug dealer friend, or their cousin with a violent criminal history.

    Even the nicest black families are only one degree of separation from a stupid, violent knucklehead.

  72. @eric

    While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Is there any data on African average income by country? Is there any country where their income is significantly higher than the US? I know it varies by metric, such as using the FX exchange rate or some other exchange rate (eg, the cost of a McDonald's hamburger).

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Fredrik, @Anonymous

    No way there’s any country where that happens except perhaps Canada or the UK.

    Other countries with small black ‘diasporas’ have them on the bottom of society.

    No country in Africa has as a high GDP per capita. Botswana and Equatorial Guinea who are small countries with lots of resources are still ways behind.

    The richest African nations are the small island nations Seychelles and Mauritius. Both of them have significant Indian populations. I believe Mauritius is majority Hindu. Both these countries are richer than Mexico but poorer than Costa Rica.

  73. @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This might not be about Heisenberg so much, Mr. Mod. And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least. A basically postmodern society, mind you, Mr. Mod, that has somehow managed to Stopp Making Sense - of the real world (that's where Mr. Peterson kicks in (and his sidekick Camille Paglia).

    So - no Uncertainty Principle here at all; but nuclear physics nevertheless in the absolutely ironic/ sardonic/sarcastic way, Michel Houellebecq is presenting this field to us with his aptly titled novel about modern societies: Elementary Particles.****


    **** The absolute individualism as a basis for the liberal economic (and social) competition, that keeps Western societies going - up to some degree (level), and behind which lurks: Collapse (Jared Diamond), is what Michel Houllebecq dissects here as a root cause of our evils. The lack of an idea, which allows people to not only compete (not least sexually) - but to cooperate. The fun part of Mr. Houellebecqs thoughts: Sexuality (sexual longing/sexual liberation) is no form of cooperation. It is, as he shows in heartbreaking scenes of this novel, now a force of disruption. - The Summer of Love gave birth to it's own special shortcomings. The good times don't - roll any longer (cf.: Why don't we do it in the Road, Some Girls, Lynnrd Skynnrd Don't Ask me no Questions, Litttle Feet FreebirdJane Birkin / Serge Gainsbourg Je t' Aime , Macy Gray: Sex-O-Matic Maniac ...).

    This is from the White Album, ironically enough (not: from Revolver...)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4E6KtQg_z0

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman, @Currahee

    I enjoy your music references, Mr. Kief. I never liked that particular Beatles song, but I will say that Freebird was the subject of the last (quick) post on Peak Stupidity. I kid you all not, I was listening to in-flight entertainment, in particular Free Bird at the time, somewhere in the middle of the Greatest Hits album* when a F/A P/A announcement came on. This was well into the flight, and someone was apparently not quite compliant enough on this mostly empty flight.

    [The music – and movie, if you were watching – gets interrupted and stopped.] “Ladies and Gentleman, PLEASE make sure that you have your face covering on, covering both your nose and mouth.” / “I’m as free as a bird now …”

    Nope, it’s not the mid-1970’s in the South – we are NOT as free as a bird now!

    .

    * Not the Gold & Platinum 2-record one.

  74. JMcG says:
    @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    Steve has long advocated citizenism. He’s described that as arranging a nation such that it can offer all its citizens a meaningful place in society. The US has offshored a large part of the jobs that could, and should be performed by the intellectually average and below average members of our society. Instead, many of those manufacturing and service jobs are being done by the average and above average Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, and Moroccans who labor for the US customer.
    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    • Agree: Hockamaw
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @JMcG

    Something that was overlooked by most pundits was, that President Trump did not advocate free trade, but rather fair and beneficial trade.
    People who hire a local craftsman or buy from a local farmer or food-coop - not least if they know and respect those people - support this kind of Citizenship-oriented economy.

    One of my favorite anecdotes in this context stems from a colony of English intellectuals/ bankers/managers in the rural Southern end of France in the Cevennes mountains. When asked what they like best about their new home, they all agree and go off like a choir in a commercial: The local craftspeople, the restaurants, the plumbers, the bakeries and cafès, the peasants. When I asked them, why such people were so scarce in England, they said, that they did not know. -They had no idea. They had no idea either, why these locals in the Gard region are so pleasant because to know why you'd have to know a lot more about french traditions and mores and culture, than those people do (most of them, the irony of ironies, don't even talk enough French, to grasp, what's up).
    What they do: They leave their lower classes for more entertaining and pleasant ones abroad. - A tale of the "Anywheres" (David Goodhart - The Road to Somewhere) - and I don't even blame them too much.
    (What I can't stand is, if such Euro-pudding-people talk about societal developments etc. - as it actually is the case, some of those migrant English ignorants in southern France do exactly that for a living...)

    , @Moses
    @JMcG


    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.
     
    Yeah. I came to the same conclusion.

    I used to be a rabid free trader and free marketer.

    No more.

    The social cost is too great, the wealth created too lopsided.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @JMcG

    I was persuaded of the folly of “free trade” when I read Pat Buchanan’s “ The Great Betrayal: How American Sovereignty and Social Justice are being sacrificed to the Gods of the Global Economy” twenty five years ago.
    Since then, Buchanan’s arguments have only grown stronger, not weaker.

  75. @Almost Missouri

    Since 1865, there has been a sharply negative correlation between how many slaves a state had and its current prosperity: Compare slave-free Minnesota to its partner in alliteration, slave-rich Mississippi.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    Hence the gold rush to extract as much as imaginable from the net worth of naive whites before the country is taken over by cynical immigrant nonwhites who will laugh at black claims.
     
    Ah, finally Sailerist x-ray vision discloses the truth.

    What can be done instead?
     
    Huh? Whaddya mean "instead"? What's happening is what the Establishment wants. They don't want "instead" and have no intention of letting "instead" happen.

    First, we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else. While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Black gratitude. Is on no one's agenda.

    Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility. Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth—Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.
     
    As inter-racial crime is now deemed infinitely more heinous than intra-racial crime*, I would settle for blacks just not shooting the rest of us so goddamn much.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level during the past decade. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.
     
    The reason nobody has noticed it is that it is not quite true. First, if you look closely at HailToYou's chart, you'll notice that the black fertility dip "below replacement" is only very tiny and only very recent: i.e., in the two or three years after the actual 2010 census figures were collated, so it involves a lot of projections, assumptions and estimates. Hail notes that actual births to black mothers were 14.8% of all births in 2013 (the final year of his chart and "lowest" year of black fertility). But the black portion of the population that year was about 12.9%, so on that figure alone blacks are actually breeding above their portion of the population, irrespective of whatever the fertility estimates say.

    Second, if you read Hail's fine print carefully, you'll note that as births are recorded by mother's race but not all mothers have mated intra-racially, a significant chuck of births are not ethnically the same as their mothers (10% in the case of non-Hispanic whites). Given what we know about the unequal balance of trade in women between races, and what we know of the propensity of (and incentives for) children of black men to identify racially with their (often absent) black fathers, this little fact alone more than covers the tiny and putative black fertility dip below replacement.

    Then third, as other commenters have mentioned, African (and Caribbean) immigration is not only going to be "botched", botching is the plan, the plan is to go big on botching, and the plan is already underway. As we speak, Biden is raising "refugee" limits to the sky and simultaneously gutting any restraint that said "limits" actually impose.

    So, each of these three points more than erases the apparent "below replacement" dip in black fertility individually, and all three points together decisively counteract act it. As has been the case for the last 90 years, the black portion of the US will continue to grow. And will do so at everyone else's expense.

    Fourth, we must understand that if you want integration, you must have law and order.
     
    Surely you've noticed that as of last year, law and order is firmly off the menu?

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.
     
    Downsides? Oh wait, who's this "we"?

    Instead, we should make clear that all races are entitled to the equal protection of the laws and that no race is above the law.
     
    Oh man, that is so over. And never coming back.

    Fifth, we need intellectuals to tell the truth.
     
    That would require 99% of "intellectuals" to pivot 180 degrees on the most important pillars on which they built their careers. So, in other words, this ain't happening.

    So, in summary, five good and true points. None of them will happen. Therefore things will continue to move along the present trajectory. Plan accordingly.

    ------

    *Of course, this is not quite true, though it is often presented this way. The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they're not quite ready to say so plainly. Soon though, I'm sure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman, @Charon

    A.M., I didn’t realize that link in the Takimag column went to Mr. Hail’s site. Thanks for your info (and to Mr. Hail in absentia). I have MY spidey sense, and it says black demographics, even native, are going to get even more overwhelming. OK, maybe not in California – great for Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz.

  76. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @eric

    While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Is there any data on African average income by country? Is there any country where their income is significantly higher than the US? I know it varies by metric, such as using the FX exchange rate or some other exchange rate (eg, the cost of a McDonald's hamburger).

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Fredrik, @Anonymous

    R u kidding ?

    Literally take any African or majority black Caribbean nation and look it up

    Not remotely close.

    • Agree: Dnought
  77. JMcG says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I like your Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle regarding black people and property values.

    In groups of larger than 5% of the local population, black people can not simultaneously buy in and live in a neighborhood with high property values.
     
    I.e, they can experience high property values in a neighborhood only after they've left the neighborhood. It's just Quantum Woke Physics, what can you do?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @JMcG, @The Alarmist, @mc23

    This is the point about redlining that is constantly missed. The instant a black bought a house in a white neighborhood, whites realized they didn’t want to be the last to leave and take the biggest hit on their investment. House prices immediately declined. With bank-owned, government-backed mortgages, redlining was the only answer to maintain collateral against the risk taken.
    The biggest idiots ever were the blacks who allowed themselves to be used as vanguards of the minoritariat. They bought houses at the highest price many of those houses would ever see. Upside down instantly and forever.

  78. Many an academic zoom call this summer on the Church of Lizzo’s body self esteem and juice lyrics:

  79. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    I think Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church is atypical, being a high-profile Church in a major city that was attended at some point by Barack Obama, who probably chose that church because of its high profile and because membership would give access to Black voters.

    I'm not sure that means that his church is typical of the typical AME or Pentecostal churches that most black people attend.

    I don't attend any church, but many years ago I did go to a few AME services and some other black Anglican funerals and weddings.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Okay, so if I follow this, in order to get “access to black voters” one must join an “atypcial” black church.

    But rather than engage in a d**k-measuring contest about who has encountered more and more influential black pastors, why don’t we check what blacks themselves say …

    For one recent example, Rev. Raphael Warnock was recently elected to the Senate from Georgia with overwhelming black support, which we may take as an endorsement of his views by churchgoing blacks. His view of Wright is that he is within the “truth-telling tradition of the Black church.”

  80. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    Barbados (a clear outlier on most things black) would be the best guess – but only barely exceeding, if it makes it.

    Which basically tells you that blacks in the USA are already receiving reparation, even if that’s not how the program is called.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Anonymous

    Judging by their TV shows of the last 10-15 years, there are zillions of professional black bosses in the UK. At any rate, there are now some successful black actors.

  81. We’ve tried lying and look where that has gotten us.

    To the place where our fine, noble and totally meritocratic elites double down on the lies.
    Like Boxer in Animal Farm we can only double down on the lies we swallow.

    Must lie harder!

  82. Jmaie says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Great column, Steve, one of your best. I appreciate your use of the phrase "black fragility." It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility--the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can't handle the truth--is our real problem. We have gotten to the point in Bizarro America where everything that is said by the media is opposite to truth, and so we se the relentless promotion of "white fragility" and "white supremacy" as our real problems.

    Seeing of our opposite-world, I used to find it amusing that one of the most common insults the left threw at Trump was that he was thin-skinned. A rhinoceros is more thin-skinned than Trump. If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn't have lasted a month in office.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jmaie, @Peter Akuleyev

    It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility–the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can’t handle the truth–is our real problem.

    Is it that blacks can’t handle the truth, or that the rest of us don’t have the balls to find out?

    Speaking of Charles Murray — how much more cancelled do we think he can get?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jmaie

    Speaking of Charles Murray — how much more cancelled do we think he can get?

    Ask Joe Sobran.

  83. @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This might not be about Heisenberg so much, Mr. Mod. And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least. A basically postmodern society, mind you, Mr. Mod, that has somehow managed to Stopp Making Sense - of the real world (that's where Mr. Peterson kicks in (and his sidekick Camille Paglia).

    So - no Uncertainty Principle here at all; but nuclear physics nevertheless in the absolutely ironic/ sardonic/sarcastic way, Michel Houellebecq is presenting this field to us with his aptly titled novel about modern societies: Elementary Particles.****


    **** The absolute individualism as a basis for the liberal economic (and social) competition, that keeps Western societies going - up to some degree (level), and behind which lurks: Collapse (Jared Diamond), is what Michel Houllebecq dissects here as a root cause of our evils. The lack of an idea, which allows people to not only compete (not least sexually) - but to cooperate. The fun part of Mr. Houellebecqs thoughts: Sexuality (sexual longing/sexual liberation) is no form of cooperation. It is, as he shows in heartbreaking scenes of this novel, now a force of disruption. - The Summer of Love gave birth to it's own special shortcomings. The good times don't - roll any longer (cf.: Why don't we do it in the Road, Some Girls, Lynnrd Skynnrd Don't Ask me no Questions, Litttle Feet FreebirdJane Birkin / Serge Gainsbourg Je t' Aime , Macy Gray: Sex-O-Matic Maniac ...).

    This is from the White Album, ironically enough (not: from Revolver...)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4E6KtQg_z0

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman, @Currahee

    ” And more about a simple social fact, hidden in plain sight before the eyes of a culture (the Western one), that has trained its citizens in a stunningly effective and very elaborated way, to not see (not notice, not perceive, not understand) what is there, HBD-wise not least.”

    The Negro Delusion Bubble.

  84. .. racial covenants in home deeds, which the Supreme Court ruled unenforceable in 1948.

    It’s just ridiculous how a bunch of politically appointed, lawyer-justices protected by lifetime tenure, who 70+ years ago sat in a marble covered courthouse located 2,000 miles away from where I live now, even from beyond the grave can tell my neighbors that they could not oppose my moving onto their street.

    [MORE]

    It’s even more outrageous that my local school boarders (dunces), who want to avoid “overcrowding” at area schools, can sway my county stuporvisors to impose restrictions on how many habitable structures can sit on my land.

    Discrimination is OK so long as it takes the forms of zones and districts, i.e. when the government practices it.

  85. @Jonathan Mason
    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Currahee, @Redman, @Barnard

    Religion, to negroes, is a mostly musical experience.

  86. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    As technology grows at an exponential rate, America needs to build more prisons to contend with the coming wave of black inmates.

    The future of efficient NI (negro incarceration) is AI:

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    What would be funny is to decorate the robot as a cop, arm it with a real taser, and programme it for self defence.

    Replies: @anon

  87. Clear and concise summary of what your readers already know. Before the George Floyd Reign of Terror I would have been more sympathetic to your race realist civic nationalism. But now I see the far left and the far right converging as they often do albeit for different reasons:

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.

    They would call it Wakanda, but let’s not argue over semantics!

    At this point, I think this policy is your winner. Like countless other groups confined within the same political borders, at some point you just drift too far apart. We can break apart like Yugoslavia, or we can combine like Latin America. For the later to work, instead of the white lie that “we’re all Mestizos!…shh – who cares about racial inequality” we’d have to hold hands and say “we’re all Anglos, we’re proud of our heritage…and we accept racial inequality”. (*inequality of outcome, not opportunity).

    What do you think is more likely?

    There’s also the problem of White America essentially becoming two different ethnic groups: Patriots and Libtards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Anonymous Jew

    *later/latter and the curse of iPhone typing.

    In the news:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/asian-american-women-stabbed-san-francisco-attack-77497315

    What’s the over-under on the race of the attacker? I feel like I’m getting too confident with this game. Maybe this one will surprise me? There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.

    Replies: @res, @Redman

  88. The National Center for Health Statistics, a division of CDC, published Births: Final Data for 2019 on March 23. The numbers are from the uniform birth certificates throughout the US.

    Table 11: Total fertility rate overall is 1706. White tfr is 1610.5. Black is 1775.5. Asian is 1511. Hispanic is 1940.

    A total fertility rate of 2100 is replacement rate. Our population is not decreasing, however, as immigration continues to drive our population numbers up.

  89. the Great awakening – racial reckoning, in recent years gained momentum as non-whites realizes they can use critical race theory and ant-white propaganda to increase their power and advance their careers. It has little to do with Blacks. Most Americans realize nothing can be done to help Blacks that has not been tried and failed. The majority of the students at our Universities are non-whites who understand the limitations of Blacks better than most whites.

    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.

    Almost 50% of the population of Americans under the age of 35 are non-white. They benefit from critical race theory and wokeness. As do single white females and the LGBTQ. So about 70% of young Americans benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. This is the reason it is becoming our dominant culture. It helps young Americans to advance their careers, increase their power while having the extra benefit of hurting white males.

    White males are just 27% of the workforce today and even if they were all 100% opposed to the woke agenda, they are out-numbered because single white females are progressives who benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. 31% of white females are single and childless at age 30 today. Every year fewer and fewer white females have kids or get married.

    If America was still 60% white we would have more whites willing to risk being cancelled to fight against wokeness. But with whites rapidly becoming a minority with the US, most young whites are just trying to survive without getting blacklisted. Recent White grads have survived college being a minority in college and have learned to keep their heads down and avoid saying anything politically incorrect to avoid getting banished from school or social media. They have learned to submit after 16 years of indoctrination and will not suddenly proclaim that 2+2 is 4. Most White college gards just want to have a career and maybe have children with an Asian or Latina so their children will not be persecuted.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Travis

    Severely retarded comment. White men benefit from wokeism, white women do not. Wokeism is primarily wagered by nonwhite women against white women. Facial attravtiveness studies indicate that white men get with Asian women because they're more attractive, not because they're worried about their kids.


    The face of wokeism is basically a white male with a nonwhite female.

    , @Moses
    @Travis


    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.
     
    This is an important insight.

    A big reason for non-Whites such as Asians and Indians going full retard Woke is that it knee-caps their competent White male competition and opens up career opportunities for them.

    Also explains why so many Asians who know better are shouting that "White Supremacy"(TM) is to blame for "random" (i.e. "Black") street attacks on Asian grannies and grandpas. It's good for the elite Asians.

    A young cousin of mine works at Wall Street bank. He was in charge of the summer intern program, received orders not to hire White men and discouraged from hiring White women.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Desiderius

  90. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    Not to gainsay your larger point, but I did “run into” an African immigrant back in 2010 or so. It was at the county law library. She was from Ethiopia or environs, was pitch black, spoke perfect English, and generally presented a very “lady like” appearance.

  91. @Anonymous Jew
    Clear and concise summary of what your readers already know. Before the George Floyd Reign of Terror I would have been more sympathetic to your race realist civic nationalism. But now I see the far left and the far right converging as they often do albeit for different reasons:

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.
     
    They would call it Wakanda, but let’s not argue over semantics!

    At this point, I think this policy is your winner. Like countless other groups confined within the same political borders, at some point you just drift too far apart. We can break apart like Yugoslavia, or we can combine like Latin America. For the later to work, instead of the white lie that “we’re all Mestizos!...shh - who cares about racial inequality” we’d have to hold hands and say “we’re all Anglos, we’re proud of our heritage...and we accept racial inequality”. (*inequality of outcome, not opportunity).

    What do you think is more likely?

    There’s also the problem of White America essentially becoming two different ethnic groups: Patriots and Libtards.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    *later/latter and the curse of iPhone typing.

    In the news:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/asian-american-women-stabbed-san-francisco-attack-77497315

    What’s the over-under on the race of the attacker? I feel like I’m getting too confident with this game. Maybe this one will surprise me? There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.

    • Replies: @res
    @Anonymous Jew


    There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.
     
    Given population rates of violent crime, a 50-50 mix would mean over 5:1 odds you are right.

    The name (Patrick Thompson) made me wonder, but things seem pretty clear after seeing the race/hair/eyes unavailable in the arrest report here.
    https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/arrest/74854360/patrick-thompson-arrest.html

    There is a phone photo shown starting at 1:08 of the video here
    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/asian-american-attacks-san-francisco-police-identify-suspect-market-street-stabbing-2-women/

    They seem to have worked to obscure things (notice the way the head area is darkened on the full screen version compared to the initial view of the phone), but it looks to me like you were right.
    , @Redman
    @Anonymous Jew

    If he were white, the article would have said so.

  92. OT: Blacks have definitely been spending their stimulus money on new toys. Look at this crazy ‘funeral procession.’

    https://www.wkrn.com/news/watch-driver-records-wild-funeral-procession-on-memphis-interstate/

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Anon

    Negros and Hispanics have an annoying habit of blocking traffic epater les Blancs. it's what got the "gentle giant" in Ferguson killed a few years ago. In my metropolis, mobs of retarded Negro thugs on a variety of prohibited vehicles have taken to regularly blocking Interstates and other major highways.

  93. At its peak, cotton produced in pre civil war times contributed less than 2% of GDP, remember that next time some dimwit says that salves built America.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @indocon

    The whole "black people/ slaves built America" thing relates to blacks' tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.

    Even in places where blacks or slaves formed a substantial part of the workforce (e.g. in the pre-Civil War construction of Washington, DC), blacks were mainly used as fungible unskilled labor and the important, high value work and supervision was done by skilled artisans who were mostly white. If you have ever been on a construction site and seen, for example, a mason doing his work, the mason is the one who is actually laying the brick and his helpers will be mostly doing the schlepping - bringing materials up onto the scaffold, mixing up mortar, etc. The same thing for the plumbers, the carpenters, etc. etc. - every aspect of the work has a skilled component (not to mention the architects and engineers who design the thing) that requires relatively high IQ individuals to supervise and a grunt labor component that does not. The labor component is more or less fungible - anyone with a strong back will do - blacks, Irish fresh off the boat, whomever. Here's your shovel and start digging. Of course the ditch diggers could never build anything more complex than a ditch by themselves (and even a ditch has to be built to the right depth in the right location) let alone a magnificent structure such as the US Capitol. Guess which role the blacks played?

    Replies: @Charon, @iDeplorable

  94. Okay, so if I follow this, in order to get “access to black voters” one must join an “atypcial” black church.

    No, you don’t get it at all. To get votes politicians tend to join very large churches. The Rev. Wright church had/has several thousand members. Access to a database of a large number of potential voters is invaluable for a politician starting out in politics.

    For example when Sarah Palin started to run for statewide offices in Alaska she changed her church to a much bigger one.

    I don’t see anything controversial in what Warnock said about Wright. At the most it is a very lukewarm endorsement of his freedom of speech rights. You would not really expect him to publicly attack another black preacher, even if he didn’t agree with him about something he had said.

    Once in a court hearing I called an attorney a slimy creep, and he complained to the (female) judge. The judge slapped him down and said that I had a First Amendment right to my opinion. The next time I called him a mummy’s boy, and he gave up on appealing to the judge for protection and quietly fumed.

    Doesn’t mean that the judge agreed with me or not (though I think she did).

    A more relevant issue is what Warnock’s opinion is on black families, parenthood, crime, education, drugs, and so on. Does he, or does he not, believe that black people should be encouraged to behave themselves?

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Jonathan Mason

    The lawyer-judge was full of it.

    As a rule, #1 doesn’t apply to a courtroom when its in-session. A presiding judge can dis/allow any sort of speech that s/he wants.

    Try calling the judge an SOB and see what happens to you.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason


    To get votes politicians tend to join very large churches. The Rev. Wright church had/has several thousand members.
     
    So is your argument that large churches are atypical while small churches are typical? If so, that seems odd, but you could at least say it plainly.

    I don’t see anything controversial in what Warnock said about Wright. At the most it is a very lukewarm endorsement of his freedom of speech rights.
     
    He didn't mention "free speech rights". He said Wright was right.

    You would not really expect him to publicly attack another black preacher
     
    Exactly. No black preacher did. Apparently, none of them found Wright to be "atypical". On the contrary, they all agreed that Wright was not really so controversial.

    Once in a court hearing I called an attorney a slimy creep...
     
    Lol. Attorneys could hear that kind of thing more often.

    Does he, or does he not, believe that black people should be encouraged to behave themselves?
     
    Most black churches today soft-peddle self-discipline and are rolling harder on blame-whitey. It's gotten even more egregious in the BLM era. Ironically, Louis Farrakhan's Nation Of Islam quasi-Muslim "church" probably promotes more good behavior nowadays than most black "Christian" churches do.
  95. @Jonathan Mason
    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Currahee, @Redman, @Barnard

    Of course there was Bill Cosby too. He was probably the most positive black role model of the 1980s.

    But look what happened to him…

  96. “Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.”
    Blacks do NOT have self-esteem. What they have is a childlike, aggressive touchiness that leads to temper tantrums. And because of the Leftist doctrine of egalitarianism that currently reigns supreme in White countries, we MUST treat Blacks as sacred cows. Negro Worship has taken the place of our true religion. Our (((high priests))) have decreed that the ugliest, stupidest, most impulsively violent, most tasteless people must be the most admired, worshiped and emulated.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    " a childlike, aggressive touchiness that leads to temper tantrums"

    Sounds like a helluva lot of people these days. It seems to be an unfortunate side effect of increasing the amount of leisure people have.

  97. Anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, it looks like what might be SNL’s Leslie Jones went after a couple of Asians with a hammer.

    I’m running out of sympathy for Asians. Their lack of response to black people repeatedly trying to kill them leads one to believe they enjoy the drama far more than remedying the situation.

    Whatever floats your perverse boat, Asians!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    The only reason Asians were ever our inferiors is they don't get the whole "objective reality" thing. They honestly think that if the government says that red and green are the same color, or if a respected academic with four post-docs says that human excrement (not a random or capricious example by the way) is highly nutritious and safe to eat, then not only is it so, but you gave a moral obligation to agree. If Asians could question their elders then they would've gotten ahead of Europe.

  98. @Dan Hayes
    After decades of being half in and half out of the neocon closet, Murray has finally stepped out completely. Better late than never, but he's still a gutless (partial grade) wonder!

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Neocon? How so?

  99. @Arclight
    In my experience, most ordinary black Americans really don't have a huge problem with blunt/un-PC talk about detrimental black behavior. It's the black political class and talented tenth types that come up with convoluted theories as to why all that ails blacks are exogenous factors.

    The biggest problem with the former is that although they notice the differences in behavior that handicap whatever potential exists, many really don't do much other than shake their heads about it.

    Replies: @Redman

    In the 1980s, it seemed like there was a lot more open talk among blacks (artists, intellectuals, film makers) about the problems within the black community.

    Think about Spike Lee’s “Do The Right Thing.” Although the film had a lot of flaws, its treatment of race was more honest than today.

    Sweet Dick Willie: “It’s goddamned Miller Time you mutha f#!kers. Hey Kung Fu. Give me a beer.”

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Redman

    The trifecta of Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Denzel Washington's run as some of the biggest bankable, beloved stars of the 80's and 90s was, in retrospect, not the beginning of a great wave of mainstream black A-list stars, but instead the apex of black mainstream fame.

    After that era, black stars disintegrated into either stereotype roles of thugs (gangsta rap and hip hop images) and race whiners, with the occasional glimmer of a true crossover star, e.g. a Chris Rock or a Dave Chapelle.

    Why? I think it really has to do with the death of the black two-parent, middle-class household. All of those stars above (including Rock and Chappelle) lived most of their young lives in two-parent, middle-class households (Washington's parents divorced when he was 14, but he was shipped off to military school then and so didn't feel the effects right away).

    And thus they could/can find common ground in their routines with whites/yellows/browns also from two-parent/middle-class households. They weren't "ghetto" in their upbringing or act. Behaviorally, they had more in common with a white kid from the suburbs than "tough guy" blacks in the growing ghettoes.

    Even Murphy, who's early act was part incredibly dirty in homage to Richard Pryor, spoke the language of the middle class, because of his upbringing, . Here's the opening sketch scene from Murphy's comedy special "Raw", which shows a typical middle-class scene any middle class child of any race would have recognized: the older parents throw a family holiday party with homemade food, and make the kids perform.

    Murphy turns it into a fart joke to show his comedic/dirty mind, but the frame is something he understood as normal, but that black kids in single parent households today probably think is an alien scene from the start. I certainly related a lot to the scene myself---up until Murphy's kid stand-in starts the flatulence humor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UWMsowL8I

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Deckin

    , @Arclight
    @Redman

    Yep. When I lived in a nearly all-black neighborhood I remember standing around with a couple of old timers while a construction crew of Central Americans worked at a building on the corner. One of them lamented the fact that they were doing jobs that used to be held by blacks, but then noted that the Latinos just worked harder and a lot of the neighborhoods young black men weren't really interested legit in work of any kind.

  100. Dang, Steve throwing down the gauntlet. Highly unlikely, tho, that it will be picked up by the lurkers from the traitorous NRO or other “mainstream” righty types.

    The Jews will never give up the blacks as a pawn — over the past 100 years black muscle, stupidity, and wildness have been far too useful to wield as a weapon. Blacks are very intimidating precisely because they share a physical robustness combined with a uncivilized, savage manner that can go from zero to chimp out in a second —and its something everyone of every race instinctually understands.

    And if you think they can’t guilt Asians or Mexicans or Muslims into feeling bad about blacks, think how they managed to brainwash Irish and Italians who either fought on the side of the North in the Civil War or came in years after slavery was over and dealt with blacks on the streets for generations before moving to the suburbs .How many second-generation Asian/Mexican/Muslim immigrant’s kids in this country already parrot woke ideology already?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @R.G. Camara


    And if you think they can’t guilt Asians or Mexicans or Muslims into feeling bad about blacks...How many second-generation Asian/Mexican/Muslim immigrant’s kids in this country already parrot woke ideology already?
     
    Yes, that's been the biggest surprise to me about the BLM protests, especially here in California.

    It's also astonishing how so many Asians, especially elite Asians, are pretending not to notice who's actually been randomly attacking and beating them on the streets of our major cities.

    "I see nothing! I see nothing!"

    Replies: @anon

  101. @Almost Missouri

    Since 1865, there has been a sharply negative correlation between how many slaves a state had and its current prosperity: Compare slave-free Minnesota to its partner in alliteration, slave-rich Mississippi.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    Hence the gold rush to extract as much as imaginable from the net worth of naive whites before the country is taken over by cynical immigrant nonwhites who will laugh at black claims.
     
    Ah, finally Sailerist x-ray vision discloses the truth.

    What can be done instead?
     
    Huh? Whaddya mean "instead"? What's happening is what the Establishment wants. They don't want "instead" and have no intention of letting "instead" happen.

    First, we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else. While African-Americans are the poorest Americans, they should feel grateful that they are the richest Africans in the world.
     
    Black gratitude. Is on no one's agenda.

    Second, whites need to drop their unspoken but debilitating concern over black fragility. Millions of whites assume that if blacks ever heard the truth—Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.
     
    As inter-racial crime is now deemed infinitely more heinous than intra-racial crime*, I would settle for blacks just not shooting the rest of us so goddamn much.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.
     
    Another great Sailerist epigram.

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level during the past decade. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.
     
    The reason nobody has noticed it is that it is not quite true. First, if you look closely at HailToYou's chart, you'll notice that the black fertility dip "below replacement" is only very tiny and only very recent: i.e., in the two or three years after the actual 2010 census figures were collated, so it involves a lot of projections, assumptions and estimates. Hail notes that actual births to black mothers were 14.8% of all births in 2013 (the final year of his chart and "lowest" year of black fertility). But the black portion of the population that year was about 12.9%, so on that figure alone blacks are actually breeding above their portion of the population, irrespective of whatever the fertility estimates say.

    Second, if you read Hail's fine print carefully, you'll note that as births are recorded by mother's race but not all mothers have mated intra-racially, a significant chuck of births are not ethnically the same as their mothers (10% in the case of non-Hispanic whites). Given what we know about the unequal balance of trade in women between races, and what we know of the propensity of (and incentives for) children of black men to identify racially with their (often absent) black fathers, this little fact alone more than covers the tiny and putative black fertility dip below replacement.

    Then third, as other commenters have mentioned, African (and Caribbean) immigration is not only going to be "botched", botching is the plan, the plan is to go big on botching, and the plan is already underway. As we speak, Biden is raising "refugee" limits to the sky and simultaneously gutting any restraint that said "limits" actually impose.

    So, each of these three points more than erases the apparent "below replacement" dip in black fertility individually, and all three points together decisively counteract act it. As has been the case for the last 90 years, the black portion of the US will continue to grow. And will do so at everyone else's expense.

    Fourth, we must understand that if you want integration, you must have law and order.
     
    Surely you've noticed that as of last year, law and order is firmly off the menu?

    We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.
     
    Downsides? Oh wait, who's this "we"?

    Instead, we should make clear that all races are entitled to the equal protection of the laws and that no race is above the law.
     
    Oh man, that is so over. And never coming back.

    Fifth, we need intellectuals to tell the truth.
     
    That would require 99% of "intellectuals" to pivot 180 degrees on the most important pillars on which they built their careers. So, in other words, this ain't happening.

    So, in summary, five good and true points. None of them will happen. Therefore things will continue to move along the present trajectory. Plan accordingly.

    ------

    *Of course, this is not quite true, though it is often presented this way. The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they're not quite ready to say so plainly. Soon though, I'm sure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman, @Charon

    The actual animus is that crimes against blacks are infinitely more heinous than crimes against whites, but they’re not quite ready to say so plainly.

    They have already said it countless times, with deeds not words.

  102. Marty says:

    Speaking of reality check, the financial history buffs here might be interested in a remark made minutes ago by a San Francisco probate judge. The judge was quizzing some trustee about the status of liquid funds, reminding him that monies are required to be held in insured accounts, i.e. not more than $250k in any account. The judge says, ” you might remember September 14, 2008, and Lehman Bros, and all that, so …”

  103. @Jonathan Mason

    Okay, so if I follow this, in order to get “access to black voters” one must join an “atypcial” black church.
     
    No, you don't get it at all. To get votes politicians tend to join very large churches. The Rev. Wright church had/has several thousand members. Access to a database of a large number of potential voters is invaluable for a politician starting out in politics.

    For example when Sarah Palin started to run for statewide offices in Alaska she changed her church to a much bigger one.

    I don't see anything controversial in what Warnock said about Wright. At the most it is a very lukewarm endorsement of his freedom of speech rights. You would not really expect him to publicly attack another black preacher, even if he didn't agree with him about something he had said.

    Once in a court hearing I called an attorney a slimy creep, and he complained to the (female) judge. The judge slapped him down and said that I had a First Amendment right to my opinion. The next time I called him a mummy's boy, and he gave up on appealing to the judge for protection and quietly fumed.

    Doesn't mean that the judge agreed with me or not (though I think she did).

    A more relevant issue is what Warnock's opinion is on black families, parenthood, crime, education, drugs, and so on. Does he, or does he not, believe that black people should be encouraged to behave themselves?

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Almost Missouri

    The lawyer-judge was full of it.

    As a rule, #1 doesn’t apply to a courtroom when its in-session. A presiding judge can dis/allow any sort of speech that s/he wants.

    Try calling the judge an SOB and see what happens to you.

  104. @Verity Smurf
    @Dieter Kief

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    Replies: @No Recent Commenting History, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Ron Mexico

    • LOL: dcthrowback
  105. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    African-Americans are the poorest Americans

    not native americans?

    steve is still playing the game master employs him to play all the while incognizant that he is in master’s employ.

    pepe gets it.

    The woke revolution is a culture war – in symbiosis with Big Tech and Big Business – that has smashed the real thing: class war.

    but you refer to this in master’s language as a “conspiracy theory”.

    steve! dude!

    until you have the courage to say “nigger” and make jokes about the holocaust and the yezhovschina you’re just a slave, master’s slave.

  106. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Moreover, there is the Heisenbergian factor: If a lot of blacks had moved into the neighborhood, it wouldn’t have gone up in value as much. The fundamental reason that homes don’t appreciate as fast in blacker neighborhoods is not their tragic dirt, but because blacks tend to be lousier neighbors. Fortunately, there is an obvious win-win solution: If blacks want to make more money off home ownership, they should work harder at being better neighbors.
     
    Here's what I don't understand about the home equity complaint - if blacks bought low value houses in black neighborhoods regardless of the reason (redlining, or because blacks like being around other blacks), didn't blacks experience a benefit insofar as homeownership was cheaper relative to the general population, and the cost of housing as a fraction of the family budget was much lower than that of the general population?

    All else equal, blacks would have had a premium of liquid capital to invest in other things (or to waste on conspicuous consumption of consumer goods that don't hold value).

    Further, are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances? My experience is that this thing is still quite rare, and that home equity usually gets converted into a fund for support in retirement for most middle class families if it survives sending the kids to Ivy League State. On the whole, the main economic advantage of substantial home equity among middle class families would be the ability to borrow against it for entrepreneurial endeavors, most of which fail anyway and wind up wiping out the family financially.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @photondancer

    Here’s what I don’t understand about the home equity complaint

    Your mere numbers and facts are no match for Teh Feelze of Kangs, dude!

    FEELZE! OF! KANGZ!

  107. Dear iSteve:

    Here is rich grist for your satirical mill. It’s the twitter feed of the utopian project of Black Hammer to create Hammer City, on 200 acres at 10,000 feet altitude. Both friendly and unfriendly comments are amusing. https://mobile.twitter.com/BlkHmmrTimes/status/1389229760392409095

    We are an anticolonial organization dedicated to getting our land back! Join us in making a city with no rent, kkkops, rona or colonizers

    Why didn’t anybody think of this before!?

    *Building a city for all people of color to be free (no discrimination of nationality, gender, age, mental/physical differences, etc)
    *Jobs, housing, food, healthcare
    *No cops, no rent, no Coronavirus, and no white people
    *Returning the land to Indigenous people
    *Building the first Hammer City in Colorado

    We are recruiting all colonized people as members!
    We have research teams for:
    *Sustainable farming
    *Water conservation
    *Holistic healthcare
    *Renewable energy
    *Design & engineering
    *Laws & city planning

    Their leaders are named Chief Sonny, Chief T, Chief Fatih, Chief Suh, Chief Ndubisi, and Chief Solimar, interviews online.

  108. anonymous[488] • Disclaimer says:

    The central reality of America can be expressed in very few words:: blacks destroy everything they touch.

  109. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    exactly, the Black population has been growing and the White population has been declining.

    Look at the most important demographics, Americans under the age of 40. These are the Americans who are fertile, forming families and entering the workforce.

    US population under the age of 40
    Year –Whites–Non-whites
    1990 – 121 M – 35 M
    2020 – 87 M – 77 M

    Since 1990 the Non-White population has more than doubled while the number of whites has fallen 30%. Looking at the under 40 year-old population we can see the near future. The White youth population has collapsed in absolute numbers by 30% in 40 years. This is catastrophic for White Americans. the death spiral has begun, with more white deaths than births. We are well past the point of no-return.

  110. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    We’ve tried lying and look where that has gotten us.
     
    It's gotten us to a pretty bad place, but it's gotten blacks to the pinnacle of society. As you write: "beneath agency but above criticism."

    Our American political life is now entirely captive to a movement ostensibly about an epidemic of white police (N.B. all police are "white adjacent") hunting and killing blacks for no good reason, but we can see with our own eyes that the proposition of the movement is really "black people can do whatever they want."

    Being obnoxious and leaning into their antisocial, lawless behavior has gotten them this far, why would they stop now?

    Replies: @anon

    …but we can see with our own eyes that the proposition of the movement is really “black people can do whatever they want.”

    “…Each did what was right in his own eyes…”

    As you write: “beneath agency but above criticism.”

  111. @Jmaie
    @Harry Baldwin


    It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility–the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can’t handle the truth–is our real problem.
     
    Is it that blacks can't handle the truth, or that the rest of us don't have the balls to find out?

    Speaking of Charles Murray -- how much more cancelled do we think he can get?

    Replies: @anon

    Speaking of Charles Murray — how much more cancelled do we think he can get?

    Ask Joe Sobran.

    • Thanks: Bubba
  112. @Anon
    OT: Now California wants to ban advanced math classes. It has been pointed out this is actually an act aimed at sabotaging Asians and whites, in the same way getting rid of SAT scores to get into colleges is aimed at replacing Asians and whites with blacks and Hispanics.

    Nobody ever forced blacks and Hispanics to take calculus in high school, and they almost never did choose to take calculus. This has no effect at all on them. But it will injure smart Asians and whites who would take those classes.

    https://mishtalk.com/economics/to-promote-equality-california-proposes-a-ban-on-advanced-math-classes

    Pretty soon, there will be a flood of whites and Asians leaving California for other states just to get an education.

    By the way, I predicted cash-strapped coastal libtard states would eventually start firing teachers to cut costs after their efforts to defend the police. It looks like they're going to start with the Math teachers, but they are calling it social justice to disguise what they're doing, which is plain old-fashioned cost-cutting.

    The science teachers are likely to be next, those that teach physics and chemistry. Blacks and Hispanics are less likely to take those courses.

    Replies: @joe_mama, @Rob

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    I believe it’s largely because of Common Core curriculums that have already gutted and ruined math. This will largely have a bigger impact. How will CA ethnics respond though? Maybe it’ll cause pushback against woke stuff? But if history is any indication it probably won’t.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @joe_mama

    In order for schoolkids to receive teaching services, the [parents] of those kids have to pay for private instruction, or else teach it themselves after dinner (when they’re already tired from their full-time day jobs).

    That’s really offensive to taxpayers.

    Schoolteachers are credentialed babysitters.

    Public school math education was ruined long before Common Crap came along. The teachers could not do the homework problems.

    , @Anon
    @joe_mama


    Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.
     
    Is this for elementary school and early middle school? Are there outside classes for, say, algebra 1 in eighth grade? Could you set up an outside class for calculus and be eligible to take the calculus AP tests? These require more than supplementation. At that point isn't homeschooling or setting up a private school more practical? If you're paying money for outside classes, you could put that money towards setting up your own math sequence along with other homeschooling parents, or creating a private school (although give it five years until the school you set up goes woke from below).

    Replies: @joe_mama

    , @Hi There
    @joe_mama


    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.
     
    IMO, the ace math students don't need math tutors. K-12 math is baby stuff for kids who are really good at math.

    I breezed through K-12 math, I got a perfect SAT math score with zero prep, I always got the high test scores in the class and I put in zero effort. I never paid attention in class, I would clown around, and it all came very easily. I was a hobby programmer nerd and that was just fun stuff. I never saw a math tutor and the idea that someone would go to a tutor seemed odd to me.

    College was a different story. I expected to ace everything without effort and I actually failed my first advanced math class. The material didn't come easily. I actually had to study. It was hard. Learning was often hard and frustrating. Tests were stressful. Then, I knew how other kids felt in middle school and high school. I adjusted to much harder material that was challenging for me and I'm glad I did. The content is cool: College Calc, Differential Equations, Integer Number Theory, Cryptography, Linear Algebra, Algebraic Structures, Real Analysis (theoretical calculus), Partial Differential Equations, Toplogy, Metalogic or Metamathematics, cryptography, probability + stochastic processes. All really awesome stuff.

    Replies: @joe_mama

  113. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Moreover, there is the Heisenbergian factor: If a lot of blacks had moved into the neighborhood, it wouldn’t have gone up in value as much. The fundamental reason that homes don’t appreciate as fast in blacker neighborhoods is not their tragic dirt, but because blacks tend to be lousier neighbors. Fortunately, there is an obvious win-win solution: If blacks want to make more money off home ownership, they should work harder at being better neighbors.
     
    Here's what I don't understand about the home equity complaint - if blacks bought low value houses in black neighborhoods regardless of the reason (redlining, or because blacks like being around other blacks), didn't blacks experience a benefit insofar as homeownership was cheaper relative to the general population, and the cost of housing as a fraction of the family budget was much lower than that of the general population?

    All else equal, blacks would have had a premium of liquid capital to invest in other things (or to waste on conspicuous consumption of consumer goods that don't hold value).

    Further, are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances? My experience is that this thing is still quite rare, and that home equity usually gets converted into a fund for support in retirement for most middle class families if it survives sending the kids to Ivy League State. On the whole, the main economic advantage of substantial home equity among middle class families would be the ability to borrow against it for entrepreneurial endeavors, most of which fail anyway and wind up wiping out the family financially.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @photondancer

    Here’s what I don’t understand about the home equity complaint –

    No, your analysis is correct: there is no substance to the home equity complaint. What you may not understand is that the complaint is never made in good faith. To the extent they are aware of anything, the people complaining are aware that the complaint is balderdash, and they don’t want you to examine it in any detail. They just want you to submit.

  114. @Henry Canaday
    Murray ended up being the only important American public intellectual of the last 40 years because he has been the only completely honest American public intellectual of the last 40 years.*

    *I am excluding internet rogues like Steve because I don’t think they are public in the same sense Murray has been.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AndrewR, @e

    I’d add Heather MacDonald.

  115. It’s actually counterintuitive for blacks to buy property at all since the very act of them buying it devalues their new property and the surrounding properties.

  116. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    What a fucking moron.

    Your figures indicate a stagnant black population growth rate. Black increased 15 million from 1990 to 2020, and are peojected to grow a mere 14 million from 2020 – 2050. The immigration is also partially black.

    I swear, this website attracts some of the stupidest commenters on the web.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Anonymous

    Welcome!

  117. @Puremania
    Slavery isn’t the added economic value that people are taught. For instance, freedmen produced as much cotton as slaves, and the price of cotton rebounded quickly after emancipation. Even now, nations using slaves have some of the lowest GDP per capita, while the highest per capita don’t use slavery.
    This may be the most painful truth of all: that a slave is really an overpriced status symbol, like a designer purse. That’s why their insurance premiums were high. Of course, for illumination on the subject we could pick a typical slaveowning family and really delve into the details. Say, Barack Obama’s.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Gaius Gracchus, @Matt Buckalew, @syonredux

    Using slave labor is a disincentive to capital investment for increased labor productivity, i.e. higher profits from higher labor output. It’s the age-old labor vs capital input question. In times of capital scarcity, labor input is all there is–it’s the only choice as there is no available alternative.

    Increase capital investment increases risk and fixed overhead, which requires increased financial and managerial competency. The status quo is the easier path.

    In other words, when cheap (slave) labor is plentiful and capital is scarce, labor input will be maximized.

    In today’s world, the reverse is increasingly true: capital is readily available, while the fight for $15 advocates keep pushing increased labor wages.

  118. @AndrewR
    @Henry Canaday

    We live in an era where the official state dogma is that there is nothing wrong with black culture. So there is literally no difference at the moment between saying "black communities suck entirely because of genetics" and "black communities suck but it has nothing to do with genetics or white people." Obviously genes aren't everything, so anyone who points out that the onus is mostly on blacks to fix their own communities is doing good work.

    Replies: @Henry Canaday

    Changing black culture and behavior would help hugely, as would changing the institutions, like public schools, and laws, like our promiscuous welfare system, that abet this culture. But it would not equalize black average incomes with those of other groups or equalize college attendance rates, absent racial preferences.

  119. @Achmed E. Newman
    I like your Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle regarding black people and property values.

    In groups of larger than 5% of the local population, black people can not simultaneously buy in and live in a neighborhood with high property values.
     
    I.e, they can experience high property values in a neighborhood only after they've left the neighborhood. It's just Quantum Woke Physics, what can you do?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @JMcG, @The Alarmist, @mc23

    Except that what iSteve postulates is more like an anti-Heisenberg principle, to wit: The more certain you can be of the black population being dominant in a neighbourhood, the more certain you can be that house and property values of that neighbourhood will be.

    Your take is just the flip of it.

    There’s also an anti-Schrödinger’s Cat in there: If the neighbourhood is dominated by blacks, it’s likely to be dead or dying, or at least very sick. You don’t need to open the box to determine it.

    It’s actually a case of Pareto Efficiency.

  120. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    I read Biden is going to pour them in from Africa, free stuff for all (YT can pay) — literally opening the spigot to flood the USA — already half of Somalia is here and their relatives….This is the plan.

  121. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Travis
    the Great awakening - racial reckoning, in recent years gained momentum as non-whites realizes they can use critical race theory and ant-white propaganda to increase their power and advance their careers. It has little to do with Blacks. Most Americans realize nothing can be done to help Blacks that has not been tried and failed. The majority of the students at our Universities are non-whites who understand the limitations of Blacks better than most whites.

    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.

    Almost 50% of the population of Americans under the age of 35 are non-white. They benefit from critical race theory and wokeness. As do single white females and the LGBTQ. So about 70% of young Americans benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. This is the reason it is becoming our dominant culture. It helps young Americans to advance their careers, increase their power while having the extra benefit of hurting white males.

    White males are just 27% of the workforce today and even if they were all 100% opposed to the woke agenda, they are out-numbered because single white females are progressives who benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. 31% of white females are single and childless at age 30 today. Every year fewer and fewer white females have kids or get married.

    If America was still 60% white we would have more whites willing to risk being cancelled to fight against wokeness. But with whites rapidly becoming a minority with the US, most young whites are just trying to survive without getting blacklisted. Recent White grads have survived college being a minority in college and have learned to keep their heads down and avoid saying anything politically incorrect to avoid getting banished from school or social media. They have learned to submit after 16 years of indoctrination and will not suddenly proclaim that 2+2 is 4. Most White college gards just want to have a career and maybe have children with an Asian or Latina so their children will not be persecuted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Moses

    Severely retarded comment. White men benefit from wokeism, white women do not. Wokeism is primarily wagered by nonwhite women against white women. Facial attravtiveness studies indicate that white men get with Asian women because they’re more attractive, not because they’re worried about their kids.

    The face of wokeism is basically a white male with a nonwhite female.

  122. @Verity Smurf
    @Dieter Kief

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    Replies: @No Recent Commenting History, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Ron Mexico

    Your statements are laughable — the 1/6 bs is played out — some clown with horns on his head walking thru doors the Cops opened up themselves to let people in and then walking inside the Velvet Ropes? Trying to make that an “Insurrection” may work for the retarded — meanwhile Burn, Murder and Loot did $2 Billion in damages last year, murders skyrocketing, and the Head BLMer bought herself some million dollar properties/homes in the “White” part of Cali — funny she didn’t want to be with “her people” LOL — Blacks are coddled and lied about 24/7 the truth is right there in any country they control — a pit of garbage and despair, look up Lagos and see some pics? — you can’t keep Africans from trying to get into the USA, they desperately want to be with “Whitey” — none going the other way of course– oh yes — this too — Get lost!

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Thanks: Detroit Refugee
  123. @indocon
    At its peak, cotton produced in pre civil war times contributed less than 2% of GDP, remember that next time some dimwit says that salves built America.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The whole “black people/ slaves built America” thing relates to blacks’ tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.

    Even in places where blacks or slaves formed a substantial part of the workforce (e.g. in the pre-Civil War construction of Washington, DC), blacks were mainly used as fungible unskilled labor and the important, high value work and supervision was done by skilled artisans who were mostly white. If you have ever been on a construction site and seen, for example, a mason doing his work, the mason is the one who is actually laying the brick and his helpers will be mostly doing the schlepping – bringing materials up onto the scaffold, mixing up mortar, etc. The same thing for the plumbers, the carpenters, etc. etc. – every aspect of the work has a skilled component (not to mention the architects and engineers who design the thing) that requires relatively high IQ individuals to supervise and a grunt labor component that does not. The labor component is more or less fungible – anyone with a strong back will do – blacks, Irish fresh off the boat, whomever. Here’s your shovel and start digging. Of course the ditch diggers could never build anything more complex than a ditch by themselves (and even a ditch has to be built to the right depth in the right location) let alone a magnificent structure such as the US Capitol. Guess which role the blacks played?

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Jack D

    There was a black architect once and several engineers too from what I've heard so that means y'all racist.

    , @iDeplorable
    @Jack D


    The whole “black people/ slaves built America” thing relates to blacks’ tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.
     
    Robert E. Lee (similar to Jefferson) had moral qualms about slavery but (similar to Jefferson with his "we have a tiger by the tail, we can neither hold on nor let go"...or something along those lines) faced the question of: what do you do with them? Turning loose an illiterate whose only skill was picking plants would see him either starve to death or become a roving criminal (and be quickly killed - roving unsupervised negroes were seriously frowned upon in 18th and 19th century Virginia). Its not as if there was welfare in those days. It would have been cruel.

    Lee would periodically skilled ones who could possibly support themselves (e.g. a blacksmith). Today of course we've solved this "what do you with them?" via our policy of paying them to breed and commit crimes.
  124. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    … how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    It will invite in a hundred million latinos and let the ethnic cleansing roll on. It’s not hard to imagine after seeing exchanges like this….

    • Replies: @dcthrowback
    @The Alarmist

    I call this the Interesting Cole-Unz Plan for the US (ICUP.US). Note: I do not support this plan, but it seems to be de facto supported by the (((white))) Californians who still remain in the state.

    Other (((whites))) disagree with this plan; to wit, Stephen Miller and Mickey Kaus.

    I decided to call their plan the Kaus-Miller Finish Demographic Minimization (KMFDM) Plan.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  125. @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn't ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Paperback Writer, @Russ, @bomag

    Was Trump thick-skinned or thin-skinned? Do blacks have high self esteem or low self esteem?

    Discuss in no more than 10,000 words.

    Reaction formation.

    In psychoanalytic theory, reaction formation (German: Reaktionsbildung) is a defense mechanism in which emotions and impulses which are anxiety-producing or perceived to be unacceptable are mastered by exaggeration of the directly opposing tendency.

    The reaction formations belong to Level 3 of neurotic defense mechanisms, which also include dissociation, displacement, intellectualization, and repression. [Wikipedia]

    So which is it? Does Trump have incredibly high self-esteem, so that all attacks or criticism are mere pinpricks or does he use bluster and misdirection to cover up his sense of inadequacy?

    Perhaps a clue might be his tendency to lean towards paranoid conspiracy theories, which are the ultimate form of reaction formation.

    “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me!”

    Now as far as black people and their self-esteem. Is the appearance of arrogance and confidence a reflection of self-image, or is it merely an aggressive defense strategy.

    I have spent quite a bit of my life in the company of black people, both at work and socially, for example when I lived in Bermuda for 11 years, or in the Dominican Republic for 4 years, or in the USA for many years, and in my personal opinion, it is mostly, but not always, bluster concealing an inner sense of inadequacy.

    However, I don’t think this is confined to blacks at all. It is also quite common in white Americans. For example many civilian people have a kind of obsession with the military, and like to wear camouflage suits and boots, put military bumper stickers or veterans tags on their cars, wear military haircuts, fly flags on poles outside their homes, or even post signs outside their homes saying that trespassers will be shot on sight ( I guess they do not get deliveries from Amazon.)

    This comes across as projecting a display of strength hiding a sense of inferiority, like a dog barking loudly as it retreats.

    So, yeah, to me it seems that a lot of black self-esteem is actually a primitive defense mechanism to protect the individual from anxiety.

    For example the person who says that rap music is the best music and the best poetry in the world is probably not comparing it objectively to Bach or Shakespeare, which they do not even understand.

    However remember that there are also some jazz musicians who can effortlessly improvise variations on the fly in a way that is stunning to classical musicians, and they probably do have very high self esteem, and deservedly so.

    Tatum apparently could not read music as he was “legally” blind.

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Jonathan Mason


    Perhaps a clue might be his tendency to lean towards paranoid conspiracy theories, which are the ultimate form of reaction formation.
     
    Trump? Like what conspiracy theories do you mean? Some of his followers may have that tendency, but everything Trump said was happening, was happening. He has a keen sense of realism, and actually lacks the natural intellectual curiosity of a believer in hidden conspiracies.
  126. @Jonathan Mason

    Okay, so if I follow this, in order to get “access to black voters” one must join an “atypcial” black church.
     
    No, you don't get it at all. To get votes politicians tend to join very large churches. The Rev. Wright church had/has several thousand members. Access to a database of a large number of potential voters is invaluable for a politician starting out in politics.

    For example when Sarah Palin started to run for statewide offices in Alaska she changed her church to a much bigger one.

    I don't see anything controversial in what Warnock said about Wright. At the most it is a very lukewarm endorsement of his freedom of speech rights. You would not really expect him to publicly attack another black preacher, even if he didn't agree with him about something he had said.

    Once in a court hearing I called an attorney a slimy creep, and he complained to the (female) judge. The judge slapped him down and said that I had a First Amendment right to my opinion. The next time I called him a mummy's boy, and he gave up on appealing to the judge for protection and quietly fumed.

    Doesn't mean that the judge agreed with me or not (though I think she did).

    A more relevant issue is what Warnock's opinion is on black families, parenthood, crime, education, drugs, and so on. Does he, or does he not, believe that black people should be encouraged to behave themselves?

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Almost Missouri

    To get votes politicians tend to join very large churches. The Rev. Wright church had/has several thousand members.

    So is your argument that large churches are atypical while small churches are typical? If so, that seems odd, but you could at least say it plainly.

    I don’t see anything controversial in what Warnock said about Wright. At the most it is a very lukewarm endorsement of his freedom of speech rights.

    He didn’t mention “free speech rights”. He said Wright was right.

    You would not really expect him to publicly attack another black preacher

    Exactly. No black preacher did. Apparently, none of them found Wright to be “atypical”. On the contrary, they all agreed that Wright was not really so controversial.

    Once in a court hearing I called an attorney a slimy creep…

    Lol. Attorneys could hear that kind of thing more often.

    Does he, or does he not, believe that black people should be encouraged to behave themselves?

    Most black churches today soft-peddle self-discipline and are rolling harder on blame-whitey. It’s gotten even more egregious in the BLM era. Ironically, Louis Farrakhan’s Nation Of Islam quasi-Muslim “church” probably promotes more good behavior nowadays than most black “Christian” churches do.

  127. In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    This is the key point. And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    That underlying knowledge must be influencing a lot of the dynamics going on now. Any lingering innocence is gone, and as we get farther away from the civil rights revolution of circa 1965 and black achievement stagnates or reverses, the hand-waving motions required to distract from the obvious logic must become ever more frantic. Our ‘state religion’ is built on a house of cards, so intellectually weak it increasingly needs police powers to sustain it.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @anon
    @Sam Malone

    And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore.

    "For $500 Alex, what is a Civic Nationalist?"

    ding-ding-ding!

    , @vhrm
    @Sam Malone


    This is the key point. And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.
     
    Creating a Covid vaccine and curing cancer are hard. Making self driving cars is hard.

    Fortunately, in practical terms, dealing with the Racial reckoning is easy. It's primarily just a matter of perspective. All we have to do is admit that HBD exists and leave everything else pretty much the same. If liberal whites stop pushing the racism angle, BLM, and lionizing Ibrahim Kendi or Tanehisi Coates everything'll be fine.

    Yes, the school gaps will still be there and the prison gaps and 13% will continue to do 50% and whatnot, but there's nothing that we can do about that and it'll be fine as long as the overall numbers keep dropping, as they had been for decades before BLM.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Redman
    @Sam Malone

    And when is Sandy O'Connor's famous 25 years until "we don't need affirmative action any more" coming due? I think it's in a couple of years.

    Maybe the SCOTUS can revisit that decision and scrap the project. Not holding my breath.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Travis
    @Sam Malone

    Whites have become a minority at our Universities and schools. This is a significant development which began a few years ago at the start of the Great Awakening.

    https://twitter.com/JDKnox4/status/1390675878028398599?s=20

    Another aspect to the acceptance of group differences is that Whites realize they will need affirmative action in the near future to maintain representation at our schools and institutions and corporations. Currently Whites are not protected with racial quotas and this is a big reason Whites are under-represented at our top Universities and the top tech firms.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  128. Anonymous[273] • Disclaimer says:

    As I said before on another thread, the main problem is that the vast majority of whites, particularly those whites who wield power, simply haven’t got a clue about black psychology.

    Blacks collectively know that they’ve got whitey on the run – at least the power whites are under their thumb – and they are the shot callers, literally, and are making all the running, playing the merry tune and leading the merry dance.

    Nothing but nothing gives blacks greater paroxysms of existential sheer joy and pleasure and happiness than to see whites humiliated. Made to abase themselves, grovel, being objects of contempt and derision, the worthless useless chump, dupe, foil of a cosmic slapstick comedy show, with blacks as the cunning trickster and jokester who fools the chump, make him look ridiculous, and fleeces him of all he’s got. African folklore celebrates this trickster as the finest amongst men.

    And in this fucked up Economist whipped world, isn’t that *exactly* what we’ve got?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Another point:

    Massive black African immigration into the USA will be coincident with massive subcon Indian immigration into the USA. Both phenomena are only in their infancy, and the full on chain migration flood will be the lot of future Americans.

    Now, just like blacks, subcons harbor a repressed - or sometimes not repressed - visceral innate hatred of whites and an overwhelming desire to see whites humiliated and destroyed and become their slaves.
    So, white Americans face a future of being attacked by ruthless, maniacal, raging blacks on the one hand, and duplicitous, cunning, cheating and deeply unpleasant subcons on the other. Both groups, which incidentally hate each other, will find common ground to unite and smash whitey.

    What a future for white Americans!!!!!!

    Replies: @uman

  129. @Anonymous
    As technology grows at an exponential rate, America needs to build more prisons to contend with the coming wave of black inmates.

    The future of efficient NI (negro incarceration) is AI:

    https://youtu.be/LyhVkiuLkBM

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    What would be funny is to decorate the robot as a cop, arm it with a real taser, and programme it for self defence.

    • Replies: @anon
    @The Alarmist

    What would be funny is to decorate the robot as a cop, arm it with a real taser, and programme it for self defence.

    Nah. Costume it as a ghost, with only one arm, carrying registered mail.

  130. @Anon7
    @Dieter Kief

    "Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright?"

    Didn't the recent, forgotten presidency of Donald Trump prove that life would be fine for those "not so bright"? Didn't black unemployment drop to its lowest levels ever? Hispanic unemployment? Female unemployment?

    All it took was at least making an effort to not flood the economy with cheap foreign labor, and making the business climate more attractive. That's all. Or am I wrong about that?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I see your point and think to bring work back was a good thing; to tax work less too.

    What could not be brought to a halt was the decline of black cities and neighborhoods; the riots; the devastating level of black incarceration rates, the poor school performance not least of poor blacks, and all kinds of other rather less fruitful behavior (violence, drug addiction, single mom kids….).
    As an aside: Trump got lost in the Geoge Floyd case. He tried to go with the flow – with quite disastrous results. Might have been reasonable to act this way seen from a purely tactical standpoint, with the elections in mind – I’d accept that. Ok – I know, this is a tough one (the toughest one maybe).

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Dieter Kief


    What could not be brought to a halt was the decline of black cities and neighborhoods
     
    Maybe part of reality is that those places are always going to under-perform relative to White/Asian land.

    Time to accept it and move on.
  131. @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn't ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Paperback Writer, @Russ, @bomag

    Don’t forget FDR:

    “I welcome their hate.”

    A real leader takes it on the chin, wipes it off, and moves on. Trump was a FRAUD.

  132. @Redman
    @Arclight

    In the 1980s, it seemed like there was a lot more open talk among blacks (artists, intellectuals, film makers) about the problems within the black community.

    Think about Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing." Although the film had a lot of flaws, its treatment of race was more honest than today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbvT6YKPzk

    Sweet Dick Willie: "It's goddamned Miller Time you mutha f#!kers. Hey Kung Fu. Give me a beer."

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Arclight

    The trifecta of Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Denzel Washington’s run as some of the biggest bankable, beloved stars of the 80’s and 90s was, in retrospect, not the beginning of a great wave of mainstream black A-list stars, but instead the apex of black mainstream fame.

    After that era, black stars disintegrated into either stereotype roles of thugs (gangsta rap and hip hop images) and race whiners, with the occasional glimmer of a true crossover star, e.g. a Chris Rock or a Dave Chapelle.

    Why? I think it really has to do with the death of the black two-parent, middle-class household. All of those stars above (including Rock and Chappelle) lived most of their young lives in two-parent, middle-class households (Washington’s parents divorced when he was 14, but he was shipped off to military school then and so didn’t feel the effects right away).

    And thus they could/can find common ground in their routines with whites/yellows/browns also from two-parent/middle-class households. They weren’t “ghetto” in their upbringing or act. Behaviorally, they had more in common with a white kid from the suburbs than “tough guy” blacks in the growing ghettoes.

    Even Murphy, who’s early act was part incredibly dirty in homage to Richard Pryor, spoke the language of the middle class, because of his upbringing, . Here’s the opening sketch scene from Murphy’s comedy special “Raw”, which shows a typical middle-class scene any middle class child of any race would have recognized: the older parents throw a family holiday party with homemade food, and make the kids perform.

    Murphy turns it into a fart joke to show his comedic/dirty mind, but the frame is something he understood as normal, but that black kids in single parent households today probably think is an alien scene from the start. I certainly related a lot to the scene myself—up until Murphy’s kid stand-in starts the flatulence humor.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @R.G. Camara

    I too want to love Eddie Murphy and just refuse to try when he goes flat.

    , @Alden
    @R.G. Camara

    Chapelle’s parents divorced when he was young. Chapelle spent summers with Dad in Oberlin Ohio.

    A black man is a black man and marriage doesn’t make him a good man. If it’s mom’s husband and her own father rapes a 11 year old or mom’s latest boy friend who rapes her or beats the kids what difference does it make which black man does it? .

    The reason so many black women fled marriage as soon as possible with welfare and affirmative action jobs was is to protect themselves and their kids from black men whether father’s husbands relatives or the boyfriend of the week.

    The reason blacks committed less crime and behaved better in schools before the great welfare bonanza of the 1960s is; police were allowed to arrest and yes, pound on blacks and schools were allowed to physically discipline and expel troublemakers. Not because the resident child beater and rapist was a husband instead of boyfriend of the week.

    Conservatives are so naive and deaf and blind to the truth.

    , @Deckin
    @R.G. Camara

    The guy on the couch with the hat and sunglasses is Samuel L. Jackson, no?

  133. @JMcG
    @Dieter Kief

    Steve has long advocated citizenism. He’s described that as arranging a nation such that it can offer all its citizens a meaningful place in society. The US has offshored a large part of the jobs that could, and should be performed by the intellectually average and below average members of our society. Instead, many of those manufacturing and service jobs are being done by the average and above average Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, and Moroccans who labor for the US customer.
    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Moses, @Paul Jolliffe

    Something that was overlooked by most pundits was, that President Trump did not advocate free trade, but rather fair and beneficial trade.
    People who hire a local craftsman or buy from a local farmer or food-coop – not least if they know and respect those people – support this kind of Citizenship-oriented economy.

    One of my favorite anecdotes in this context stems from a colony of English intellectuals/ bankers/managers in the rural Southern end of France in the Cevennes mountains. When asked what they like best about their new home, they all agree and go off like a choir in a commercial: The local craftspeople, the restaurants, the plumbers, the bakeries and cafès, the peasants. When I asked them, why such people were so scarce in England, they said, that they did not know. -They had no idea. They had no idea either, why these locals in the Gard region are so pleasant because to know why you’d have to know a lot more about french traditions and mores and culture, than those people do (most of them, the irony of ironies, don’t even talk enough French, to grasp, what’s up).
    What they do: They leave their lower classes for more entertaining and pleasant ones abroad. – A tale of the “Anywheres” (David Goodhart – The Road to Somewhere) – and I don’t even blame them too much.
    (What I can’t stand is, if such Euro-pudding-people talk about societal developments etc. – as it actually is the case, some of those migrant English ignorants in southern France do exactly that for a living…)

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Thanks: bomag
  134. steve spends his whole day playing backgammon online…

    sad.

    especially considering steve doesn’t even know he’s playing backgammon.

    double sad.

  135. We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.

    I’m fine with that

  136. @Neoconned
    A lotta posters here don't like blacks.....perhaps for justifiable reasons. I grew up around many and many are salt of the earth types....blue collar church people.....at least in the south.

    Youngish black dudes are real nerdy.....into comics/anime/video games etc so i connect with many of them on that level.

    I think as a whole they've gotten their fertility issue under control so now they're working on 1 thing at a time.

    Sadly with automation and inflation and deflation they're going to be hardest hit....

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    I grew up going to various South/Central Seattle public schools that were 30-50% Black. At the time, there were virtually no Blacks in the private school system, so I had many years exposure to the full range of the Black bell curve (also before the ones at the bottom dropped out or ended up in prison – the menially employed Blacks that Whites interact with are far from the bottom of the Black bell curve).

    In a very traditional, less permissive society I think most could do OK. But unlike, say, Fancy Asians and most Whites, changes in cultural standards, crime enforcement etc can have huge consequences. (Same goes for low-IQ Whites – see Murray’s “Coming Apart”). And I think that’s the whole point of Steve’s article.

    In 1980s and 1990s Seattle the victimhood-blame-Whitey cult was in full swing, along with complete lack of discipline in the classroom. If the class was all White/Asian things more or less held together. But for the vast majority of Blacks it was most iSteve readers’ worst nightmare. I was there. I know.

    FWIW: living in big cities I’ve worked for a couple genuinely talented (and very dark skinned) Blacks that I believe would have ended up in the same place even absent Affirmative Action. But at the same time I know the law of averages always wins. And for the law of averages, I draw on my experiences from middle school and high school. Yes there were nerds and salt of the earth types, but not nearly enough, and many of them still couldn’t read at 16.

    • Thanks: vhrm, Mark G.
    • Replies: @TWS
    @Anonymous Jew

    There's a black high school in Seattle. There's an Ezelle's chicken across the street. Even though they built an over pass the students still regularly cross the street meandering and blocking traffic. It was in the nineties they simply stopped trying to enforce the law and just let them cross however they liked. Kinda like the new normal of rioting, knife fights and hands off criminal justice top to bottom.

    Every single encounter was another citation or arrest as they would refuse to comply. The city thought holding them to minimal standards was racist.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Anonymous Jew

    Blacks seemed to do well in the Ottoman Empire, but (1) a lot were East African, not West African; (2) the early Ottoman Empire was characterized by strict Muslim rule enforcement, especially against alcohol---no libertarian moral ethics allowed in the streets; and (3) many of the imported ones were castrated so as to serve as guards to harems and mistresses and not be suspected.*

    *though successful castration itself is not a foolproof method of removing male sexual desire. In Italy some boys were castrated before puberty to preserve their girlish singing voices their entire lives (called Castrati) , and some were wild ladies men with other men's wives , due to a combination of their fame, the husband's not knowing castrati could still be sexually functional even if barren, and the absolute promise the cheating women would not get pregnant from a groupie dalliance.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  137. @Puremania
    Slavery isn’t the added economic value that people are taught. For instance, freedmen produced as much cotton as slaves, and the price of cotton rebounded quickly after emancipation. Even now, nations using slaves have some of the lowest GDP per capita, while the highest per capita don’t use slavery.
    This may be the most painful truth of all: that a slave is really an overpriced status symbol, like a designer purse. That’s why their insurance premiums were high. Of course, for illumination on the subject we could pick a typical slaveowning family and really delve into the details. Say, Barack Obama’s.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Gaius Gracchus, @Matt Buckalew, @syonredux

    Pretty much. There is some interesting research along those lines. Owning slaves took one up the status ladder. Most slaveowners were highly leveraged.

    Meanwhile, the South was falling behind economically, as the free North was far more productive without slaves than the South was with slaves.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Gaius Gracchus

    Yes. Odd thing is, slaves weren’t the issue. Freed slaves moving to the North was the issue. That a northern reaction to further freed slaves moving north and becoming wage competitors, charity cases, criminals and molesters of women is presented as northern high mindedness is truly remarkable. Why was the Union army in the South for ten years? To make sure the blacks didn’t leave.

  138. the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it’s not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world. that’s the stupid argument which leftist enemies of civilization use and the yardstick which they’ve convinced many other people to use.

    “Herr derr, the 1950s sucked if you were black, therefore your argument is invalid. Herr derr, blacks don’t score the same on standardized math tests as math geniuses do, therefore the tests are wrong, or at least you need to give africans another 10 trillion dollars so they score the same eventually.”

    how were the 1950s for africans in the US versus the 1950s for africans in Africa? that’s the only comparison which matters.

    no kidding the people who created and built everything out of nothing have more money and own more stuff and live a better life. why should minimum wage laborers have the exact same lifestyle as the people who built and operate all the automobiles and computers and aircraft and power planets and skyscrapers?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @prime noticer


    the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it’s not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world.
     
    Indeed. And the percentage of the world's billionaires that live in Africa is stunningly small, as is the percentage of the world's 1,000 largest coporations. Of those megacorporations and billionaires (apart from kleptocrats) that are in black Africa, nearly all of them are in South Africa - the billionaires aren't black, and the corporations weren't founded or built by blacks.

    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Alden
    @prime noticer

    Do you believe that the people who physically build skyscrapers and work in the factories that build autos airplanes and computers are deserving of more than minimum wage?

  139. @Achmed E. Newman
    I like your Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle regarding black people and property values.

    In groups of larger than 5% of the local population, black people can not simultaneously buy in and live in a neighborhood with high property values.
     
    I.e, they can experience high property values in a neighborhood only after they've left the neighborhood. It's just Quantum Woke Physics, what can you do?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @JMcG, @The Alarmist, @mc23

    Unfortunately, a very apt comparison.

  140. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    You are fucking stupid. The fertility rate is calculated relative to mortality rate, not demographic cohort size. Blacks have a higher mortality rate than do whites. Also, a larger share of black women give birth to children whose fathers are of another ethnicity, than do white women.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    The fertility rate is calculated relative to mortality rate, not demographic cohort size.

    Fertility rate is the expected (i.e., estimated) number of lifetime births per woman.

    Blacks have a higher mortality rate than do whites.

    Black and white life expectancy is almost the same now. But that is irrelevant to fertility in any case.

    Also, a larger share of black women give birth to children whose fathers are of another ethnicity, than do white women.

    Cite?

  141. jon says:

    Ibram X. Kendi always like to frame it as an either/or: 1. Racism is the cause of racial differences in crime/academics, or 2. racial differences actually exist. He does this because he knows no one can openly agree with the second, so they have to accept the first. And it works, for now. But you can only have so much cognitive dissonance going on in your head for so long. I still hold that this ploy will eventually backfire on him, and them. Hopefully, the Murray book is a little nudge in that direction.

  142. @Ian Smith
    “We could allow blacks to carve each other up and resist arrest all they want, but that would mean confining them to Escape From New York-style reservations.”

    Yes.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    Confining blacks to reservations will be an attractive option to the Chinese, dot-Indians and Mexicans who do not suffer from white guilt.

  143. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    The left will never stop lying about these matters. These lies are the thing that give meaning, purpose, and structure to their lives This will end when they have been physically overthrown, and not a minute sooner.

    • Agree: AndrewR, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @G. Poulin


    These lies are the thing that give meaning, purpose, and structure to their lives
     
    In other words, sheer naked power.

    With zero saved for you.
  144. For example, the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal splashed a long article on May 1 entitled:

    Titled would have sufficed. We have too much “entitlement” in this country already!

    …it’s getting harder to recall that Minneapolis was once perhaps the most orderly big-league city. In 1973, Time magazine ran a cover story on the “Good Life in Minnesota” about how it was “the state that works.”

    At the same time, Minneapolis was notorious as the most “anti-Semitic” city in America.

    From the 19th century until about 1950, Minneapolis hovered around 99.0% white.

    Unsurprisingly, covenants were aimed at Jews. If you view Minneapolis as a human head, the two concentrations of Jews sit right outside it like a pair of Bose headphones– the suburb of St Louis Park (“St Jewish Park”), where the Coens and Al Franken grew up, and St Paul’s Highland Park neighborhood, just outside of which Midge Decter grew up, where Lubavitscher pop star rabbi Manis Friedman is based, and where “Sara Jane Olson”, the Lutheran Boudin, hid out for decades, undiscovered.

    Next month, Charles Murray is publishing Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America…

    Robert Putnam’s new book is already out. His co-author is Mitt Romney’s cousin. A comparative double review might be useful.

    In ‘The Upswing,’ History Holds The Keys To Moving Away From Today’s Tumultuous Age If nobody else wants to bother, I have a hold request in at the library and can report on it.

    Half of the town pictured at Takimag, Chatfield, Minn., happens to lie within Olmsted County, the seat of which is Mayo Clinic’s Rochester. The population of Rochester hovers around 100,000, and is evidently the whitest city of that size or larger in the US. (Please alert us if there is another.)

    Only one business, the Silver Grille, is seen both in Taki’s picture and Wikipedia’s.

    • Thanks: Alden
  145. @prime noticer
    the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it's not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world. that's the stupid argument which leftist enemies of civilization use and the yardstick which they've convinced many other people to use.

    "Herr derr, the 1950s sucked if you were black, therefore your argument is invalid. Herr derr, blacks don't score the same on standardized math tests as math geniuses do, therefore the tests are wrong, or at least you need to give africans another 10 trillion dollars so they score the same eventually."

    how were the 1950s for africans in the US versus the 1950s for africans in Africa? that's the only comparison which matters.

    no kidding the people who created and built everything out of nothing have more money and own more stuff and live a better life. why should minimum wage laborers have the exact same lifestyle as the people who built and operate all the automobiles and computers and aircraft and power planets and skyscrapers?

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Alden

    the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it’s not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world.

    Indeed. And the percentage of the world’s billionaires that live in Africa is stunningly small, as is the percentage of the world’s 1,000 largest coporations. Of those megacorporations and billionaires (apart from kleptocrats) that are in black Africa, nearly all of them are in South Africa – the billionaires aren’t black, and the corporations weren’t founded or built by blacks.

    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.

    • Agree: Ben tillman, TWS
    • Thanks: Currahee
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Wilkey


    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.
     
    • Agree

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  146. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    “Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.”

    I don’t accept your assumed premise, that capitalism favors the bright. Being bright favors the bright. Smart people can be expected to do better than dim people everywhere and under any conditions.

    In a socialist country most people are worse off. The whole curve is moved to less affluence but the smart do better than the dumb.

    Under capitalism a smart person can take their brainpower, think of a way to make something that is awful less awful or even enjoyable for many people, go to venture investors and leverage saved capital to roll out their idea on a large scale improving more people’s lives faster.

    Hasn’t anyone noticed the innovation and rollout speed in the USA (as opposed to Europe, Russia, China) the speed goods and services proliferate.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @scrivener3

    Many a medical doctor in the GDR or school-teacher or entrepreneur (they did exist) in the Eastern block, in general, enjoyed a standard of living that, seen from a material perspective were poor. Not better than your average bricklayer or carpenter, some of them even worse.

    And - there was, by and large, no way to become rich, let alone superrich. Not even rich by middle-class standards.
    The beach-houses of East Germany's leaders (!) - at the top of the food chain, were but meek little two-bedroom things, built without any kind of flair or style whatsoever. I've been in some of those in 1990. The only big privilege of the East-German elite, in this case, was: These houses were sitting alone in a remote part of the Darß, a peninsula at the coast of the Baltic sea. So - they were amongst themselves and not disturbed by the masses. But that was it.
    To make that clear: I am not arguing pro socialism above.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Anonymous

  147. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Henry Canaday

    I agree about Murray - but he's almost an unperson now - his book will not be reviewed and he'll be Watsoned.

    I tend to think that he's got to the age where he thinks "F--- it, if I can't tell the truth now, when can I?".

    That's a sad sentence to write, because it means you can only speak truth these days if you have little to lose.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @cthulhu

    “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…”

  148. @Barnard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There’s no “botching” of immigration from Africa going on.
     
    They want to destroy the middle class. The elite believe we have no more right to our middle class status than third worlders do and as living standards rise in the third world they want to drag us down so there is less of an environmental impact. They are more than a little defensive about the alarms the "In the future, you will own nothing and you will be happy" video from the World Economic Forum raised. It would be good to start labeling the elites strategy as "Neo-Feudalism" as you point out it may not be well organized, but it is without question their goal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Peter Akuleyev

    They want to destroy the middle class.

    BINGO!

    Same thing – I don’t think this is all planned out, though these elites do get together on occasion. All of them resent any middle class White people that have disposable income, the tendency to care about their people and form associations of all sorts, including political, and compete with the elite’s Big Biz corporations.

  149. @Verity Smurf
    @Dieter Kief

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    Replies: @No Recent Commenting History, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Ron Mexico

    Maybe we should all just use Tiny Duck as our tag until the most noticing man in the World notices that it is Tiny Duck.

  150. Is racial wokeness religious self-destruction, or is it exactly the opposite, namely, “the biological imperative.” This consists of a wired drive geared toward competition, reproduction, group formation, territorialism, personal success. I saw this during the late 60’s at an “elite” university….wanna get a date?..your politics had better be correct. Biological imperative link:

    https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Biological_imperative

    Separate point. Snooty mainstream newspapers don’t help by downgrading people who are tradecraft- proficient instead of academically geared. They are afraid to say “plumber.” Now that infrastructure is in the news, they will say bridges and internet, but they never say “sewers.”

  151. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    I have said once, we have reached a point where incompetence and malice must be treated the same if anything is to get better.

  152. @Ron Mexico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none."
    Fella's, it's so simple. It's all ball-bearings these days. (Apologies to Fletch if I misquoted) All the right people don't have enough kids.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha, that Fletch line is MY BIT, Ron. I’ve got it down. “Ahhh, c’mon guys. Do you need a refresher course? It’s ALL dysgenic Socialism nowadays!”

  153. @Neuday
    I've been an iStever for nearly a decade and this is possibly his strongest piece.

    Replies: @james wilson

    This is the piece where he threw in the towel and said “fuck it”.

  154. @Dan Smith
    “I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness.” The only part of Howl that makes sense. Most of the people I went to school with in the 60s have gone absolutely batshit crazy with wokeness. No cure in sight. They’re in complete denial for the most part. Reinforcing shots of state and media propaganda delivered daily. The pendulum will swing back, but not in my lifetime.

    Replies: @Seneca44

    Yes, it’s a real shame to see people I formerly viewed as reasonably intelligent peers get lost in a forest of innumeracy overlaid with what they think is objective news from sources like CNN. They really don’t think any of this (unfettered immigration, homo/tranny worship, reverse racism with negroes) is ever going to affect them or their children.

  155. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    If it’s purposeful, then the people with the purpose must be made to pay. And no, not with income or estate taxes, because those hit the innocent as well as the guilty. To paraphrase Mencken, the practitioners of wokery know what they want (for us), and deserve to get it (themselves) good and hard.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    And no, not with income or estate taxes...
     
    Of course not, Reg. I meant to write this on that inheritance thread, but the top .1% have ways to get around all the big taxes. Like Joe Walsh, they "got accountants to pay for it all." It's the upper-middle-class and small business owners who get screwed by both these high income tax rates and death taxes.
  156. @Anon
    OT: Blacks have definitely been spending their stimulus money on new toys. Look at this crazy 'funeral procession.'

    https://www.wkrn.com/news/watch-driver-records-wild-funeral-procession-on-memphis-interstate/

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Negros and Hispanics have an annoying habit of blocking traffic epater les Blancs. it’s what got the “gentle giant” in Ferguson killed a few years ago. In my metropolis, mobs of retarded Negro thugs on a variety of prohibited vehicles have taken to regularly blocking Interstates and other major highways.

  157. Still waiting for someone to explain to me how blacks have such high self esteem when they suffer from a massive inferiority complex (aka fragility) as a group?

  158. Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.

    What kind of Nazi are you Herr Sailer that you think you can criticize a virtuous minority?

    Minorities are above criticism. Some even more than others.

    Criticism inherently implies some standard of behavior that someone is failing to meet.

    You can’t possible suggest that a minority be expected to meet say … traditional boring WASPy,”white bread”, Anglo-American standards of behavior?

    Criticism is for white gentile oppressors, not virtuous victim minorities.

  159. Off topic, but someone (a twitter user commenting negatively on Billie Eilish’s Vogue cover) brought to my attention an early shot fired in World War T, Irish writer Patrick McCabe’s 1998 novel Breakfast On Pluto, which became a 2005 film by Neil Jordan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakfast_on_Pluto_(film)

    (the twitter guy reckoned Cillian Murphy (a chap) looked better in the film than Ms Eilish)

    Patrick comes out as transgender, renames herself Kitten, also using the name Patricia, and approaches Father Liam in confession, asking about Eily, but is rebuffed. Kitten soon runs away from home, catching a ride with a glam rock band, Billy Hatchet and the Mohawks, and striking up a flirtation with leader Billy. Billy installs the lovestruck, homeless Kitten in a trailer home where she discovers he’s hiding guns smuggled for the Irish Republican Army. Meanwhile, Irwin has begun to work with the IRA, much to the dismay of his now-girlfriend Charlie. Kitten dismisses Irwin’s politics as “serious, serious, serious,” but after Lawrence is killed by police detonating a suspected IRA car bomb, she tosses the IRA gun cache into a lake. Billy abandons Kitten to flee the IRA, forcing Kitten to stand up to the “serious, serious, serious,” men alone. Her lack of connection to their politics saves her from being murdered.

    Kitten next journeys to London to search for Eily, but initial inquiries prove fruitless. Penniless, she finds shelter in a tiny cottage in a park, only to find that it’s a children’s entertainment park for The Wombles. Kitten gets a job as a singing, dancing Womble, but immediately loses it when her sponsor and co-worker punches their boss. Forced into prostitution, she is violently attacked by her first client, saving herself from strangulation by spraying him in the eyes with Chanel No. 5 perfume.

    Irish magical not-very-realism? Ken Russell would have loved it.

  160. anon[744] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Malone

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.
     
    This is the key point. And it's a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    That underlying knowledge must be influencing a lot of the dynamics going on now. Any lingering innocence is gone, and as we get farther away from the civil rights revolution of circa 1965 and black achievement stagnates or reverses, the hand-waving motions required to distract from the obvious logic must become ever more frantic. Our 'state religion' is built on a house of cards, so intellectually weak it increasingly needs police powers to sustain it.

    Replies: @anon, @vhrm, @Redman, @Travis

    And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore.

    “For $500 Alex, what is a Civic Nationalist?”

    ding-ding-ding!

  161. @Anonymous
    Sorry, Steve:

    One thing, I am absolutely 100% certain - no shadow of doubt whatsoever - will happen during this present century is of truly *MASSIVE* black African immigration into the USA. And also to Canada and Europe too, as it happens.

    The Economist magazine advocates it.

    And so it will come to pass. That's all I need to base any prediction on. No need for rune stones, crystal balks, tarot, iChing, horary charts etc. This is as good as one can get to the Delphi Oracle in this world.

    Replies: @WJ

    Low IQ south of the border type Camp of the Saint scenario is one thing. Unfettered immigration from Africa is the apocalypse scenario.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @WJ

    It's your grandchildrens' future.

  162. @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    What would be funny is to decorate the robot as a cop, arm it with a real taser, and programme it for self defence.

    Replies: @anon

    What would be funny is to decorate the robot as a cop, arm it with a real taser, and programme it for self defence.

    Nah. Costume it as a ghost, with only one arm, carrying registered mail.

  163. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    Hence the gold rush to extract as much as imaginable from the net worth of naive whites before the country is taken over by cynical immigrant nonwhites who will laugh at black claims.

    It’s the other way around. It is to extract money from immigrants, which is precisely why white liberals are now more likely to support reparations. Much of it won’t be white money but immigrant money. All those Hindus in Silicon Valley gotta pay.

    True, immigrants could unite and say no, but when have most immigrant groups shown any initiative or agency? When have they been assertive? They usually go along with the prevailing ideas and agendas from above, which is dominated by whites and Jews and will always be.

    With blacks it’s understandable why they want money. They suck at making it. It’s far more perverse with Jews who have so much but make everyone pay for what they want and of course Israel. Free money for the poor, understandable. Free money for the rich, detestable.

  164. utu says:
    @reiner Tor
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none.
     
    Had they had more kids, those would grow up to be racial hustlers. In the insane world we are, the fewer blacks, the better. Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones, because they will probably, on average, still not be as smart as smart whites, yet they will be accepted by the best elite colleges, and then they will resent being dumber than smart whites, blaming "society" or "institutional racism" or "white supremacist power structures" or whatever for their inferiority. Anyway, smart blacks are certainly not any better than dumb ones, because it's an insane world.

    In a sane world, smart blacks like Condoleezza Rice not having kids while dumb blacks like Tessica Brown having many would be sad. It's not a sane world.

    Replies: @utu

    “Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones” – Yes, the smart and acculturated ones may undermine your resolve during the process of ethnic cleansing or genocide, which is what this shark jumping article by Mr. Sailor leads to. You being from Hungary can see further where Mr. Sailer ideas will lead. The problem that your keen eye spotted can be overcome with discipline and lots of vodka. You will have to bite your teeth as the men from the Reserve Police Battalion 101 did to suppress scruples when executing German Jews, the scruples they did not have when dealing with Polish Jews. May 5th, 2021 will be remembered as Julius Streicher moment in Mr. Sailor career.

    • LOL: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @utu

    You seem to be constantly thinking about genocide. There are other joys in this life, not just killing women and children, you naughty boy!

  165. @Jonathan Mason
    Black churches do already give this message to black people, at least to some extent.

    Of course some of it is self-interest to the extent that the churches would like people to repent, turn away from drugs and alcohol, try to be more like Jesus, and get a job, support their kids and donate money to the church so that the preacher can buy bling, but it does happen, and at least provides an alternative pathway.

    Perhaps Steve can look for guest preacher gigs in black churches where his message will be well received.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Currahee, @Redman, @Barnard

    Buying Steve a new Honda Accord would be a great deal for a congregation that gets asked to buy a Gulfstream jet for Creflo Dollar.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/local/creflo-dollar-ministry-says-will-get-his-million-jet/Z1Oa81oGK9BYz1LO4KswAK/

  166. @Wilkey
    @prime noticer


    the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it’s not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world.
     
    Indeed. And the percentage of the world's billionaires that live in Africa is stunningly small, as is the percentage of the world's 1,000 largest coporations. Of those megacorporations and billionaires (apart from kleptocrats) that are in black Africa, nearly all of them are in South Africa - the billionaires aren't black, and the corporations weren't founded or built by blacks.

    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.

    • Agree

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Rob McX

    Herbert Hoover (!) made the same point in a speech he gave in the 1950s.

    ".....the fifteen million Negroes then in the United States owned more automobiles than all of the 150 million Negroes in Africa and the 150 million white people in Russia put together".

  167. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    * I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Just poking my head up to emphasize that AEN’s anecdote about intelligent black women is correct. And everyone here who wants to understand American demographics should have their head wrapped around it.

    Blacks actually a much larger dysgenic skew than whites. (For whites the skew is toward the middle–HS grads and some college and away from both the dumb and smart, especially the post-grad degreed.) Blacks account for a big percentage of high college female/male ratio. The better educated (or at least degreed) segment of black women has severe sub-replacement fertility and the dumb blacks are fertile.

    Basically, college educated black women are looking for college educated black men for husbands–which is difficult because high quality black men have … options–and really want to have an actual husband before having children (i.e. aspire to middle class norms). Many fail to do this and as result their fertility is low.

    As a result, believe it or not, black women in the net are producing even dumber blacks!

    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned “talent tenth” blacks … is coming from white wombs.

    • Replies: @Shango
    @AnotherDad

    Sounds like all the high quality black men will be responsible for a new generation of talent tenth who mostly will be non black. Would you agree? Also what do you mean by " black women in the net"?

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad


    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned “talent tenth” blacks … is coming from white wombs.
     
    Strange- when the stats had been available, virtually 3% births by WW had a black father. Even more for BW-WM combination, but percentages translate into different numbers, so it's rather puzzling why so many WW hang with black men. Before 1985, the percentage was less than 0.5%

    https://i.imgur.com/mII5fcvl.png

    https://i.imgur.com/Dnn9N5Zl.png
  168. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, it looks like what might be SNL's Leslie Jones went after a couple of Asians with a hammer.

    I’m running out of sympathy for Asians. Their lack of response to black people repeatedly trying to kill them leads one to believe they enjoy the drama far more than remedying the situation.

    Whatever floats your perverse boat, Asians!

    https://twitter.com/NYPDHateCrimes/status/1389367802700648453?s=20

    Replies: @J.Ross

    The only reason Asians were ever our inferiors is they don’t get the whole “objective reality” thing. They honestly think that if the government says that red and green are the same color, or if a respected academic with four post-docs says that human excrement (not a random or capricious example by the way) is highly nutritious and safe to eat, then not only is it so, but you gave a moral obligation to agree. If Asians could question their elders then they would’ve gotten ahead of Europe.

  169. @R.G. Camara
    @Redman

    The trifecta of Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Denzel Washington's run as some of the biggest bankable, beloved stars of the 80's and 90s was, in retrospect, not the beginning of a great wave of mainstream black A-list stars, but instead the apex of black mainstream fame.

    After that era, black stars disintegrated into either stereotype roles of thugs (gangsta rap and hip hop images) and race whiners, with the occasional glimmer of a true crossover star, e.g. a Chris Rock or a Dave Chapelle.

    Why? I think it really has to do with the death of the black two-parent, middle-class household. All of those stars above (including Rock and Chappelle) lived most of their young lives in two-parent, middle-class households (Washington's parents divorced when he was 14, but he was shipped off to military school then and so didn't feel the effects right away).

    And thus they could/can find common ground in their routines with whites/yellows/browns also from two-parent/middle-class households. They weren't "ghetto" in their upbringing or act. Behaviorally, they had more in common with a white kid from the suburbs than "tough guy" blacks in the growing ghettoes.

    Even Murphy, who's early act was part incredibly dirty in homage to Richard Pryor, spoke the language of the middle class, because of his upbringing, . Here's the opening sketch scene from Murphy's comedy special "Raw", which shows a typical middle-class scene any middle class child of any race would have recognized: the older parents throw a family holiday party with homemade food, and make the kids perform.

    Murphy turns it into a fart joke to show his comedic/dirty mind, but the frame is something he understood as normal, but that black kids in single parent households today probably think is an alien scene from the start. I certainly related a lot to the scene myself---up until Murphy's kid stand-in starts the flatulence humor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UWMsowL8I

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Deckin

    I too want to love Eddie Murphy and just refuse to try when he goes flat.

  170. Moreover, there is the Heisenbergian factor: If a lot of blacks had moved …

    Actually, I think it would be a case of Brownian Motion.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  171. Currently, I am re-reading parts of Lindemann’s “Esau’s Tears: Modern Antisemitism and the Rise of the Jews” (I’ve read it ca. 10-13 years ago, but somewhere 50-60% of it; some parts are not too interesting). It covers the history of the Jewish condition in the Western world (including Russia) from 1870 to 1933 in connection with antisemitism. Although the author has narrowed his topic, nevertheless it is a huge subject. His main thesis is simple: Jews are, if not “guilty”, at least responsible for modern type antisemitism which, in too many cases, came as the reaction of Gentile host peoples to obnoxious behavior of various Jewish demagogues, activists, journalists, … and in some cases, prominent, gifted & cultured Jews.

    Some Jewish lachrymose & apologetic historians took offense (“blaming the victim”), but Lindemann is mostly correct. I would give him 4 out of 5 stars.

    Anyway, eminent authors & historians have been writing similar stuff for decades (for instance, Laqueur). On the other hand, I don’t know of a single black author, historian, … who would show even 10% of such unflattering self-examination. I am not talking about IQ (I don’t care too much about it); nor about Africa, backwardness …. From the 60’s on, there were not black voices that would insist on black criminality, black on white rape stats, their overall social dysfunction, lack of moral compass, destructive social behavioral patterns …

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews’ culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    I don’t think that blacks (Muslims, Native Americans, ..) will ever come to 1/10th of something I would call maturity.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Bardon Kaldian

    To be fair, Larry Elder has been critical of underclass black behavior, as has Thomas Sowell from time to time.

    Weirdly enough, one of the show Boondocks veers wildly between being highly critical of black dysfunction and blaming it all on Tha Man.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @kaganovitch
    @Bardon Kaldian

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews’ culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    Graetz was writing at a time when Religion still held some sway over the hearts and minds of Europeans. It is only from your perspective, after the triumph of 'Science', that this seems self-evidently absurd.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  172. @joe_mama
    @Anon

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in "nice" areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    I believe it's largely because of Common Core curriculums that have already gutted and ruined math. This will largely have a bigger impact. How will CA ethnics respond though? Maybe it'll cause pushback against woke stuff? But if history is any indication it probably won't.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Anon, @Hi There

    In order for schoolkids to receive teaching services, the [parents] of those kids have to pay for private instruction, or else teach it themselves after dinner (when they’re already tired from their full-time day jobs).

    That’s really offensive to taxpayers.

    Schoolteachers are credentialed babysitters.

    Public school math education was ruined long before Common Crap came along. The teachers could not do the homework problems.

  173. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    If it's purposeful, then the people with the purpose must be made to pay. And no, not with income or estate taxes, because those hit the innocent as well as the guilty. To paraphrase Mencken, the practitioners of wokery know what they want (for us), and deserve to get it (themselves) good and hard.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    And no, not with income or estate taxes…

    Of course not, Reg. I meant to write this on that inheritance thread, but the top .1% have ways to get around all the big taxes. Like Joe Walsh, they “got accountants to pay for it all.” It’s the upper-middle-class and small business owners who get screwed by both these high income tax rates and death taxes.

  174. @Redman
    @Arclight

    In the 1980s, it seemed like there was a lot more open talk among blacks (artists, intellectuals, film makers) about the problems within the black community.

    Think about Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing." Although the film had a lot of flaws, its treatment of race was more honest than today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbvT6YKPzk

    Sweet Dick Willie: "It's goddamned Miller Time you mutha f#!kers. Hey Kung Fu. Give me a beer."

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Arclight

    Yep. When I lived in a nearly all-black neighborhood I remember standing around with a couple of old timers while a construction crew of Central Americans worked at a building on the corner. One of them lamented the fact that they were doing jobs that used to be held by blacks, but then noted that the Latinos just worked harder and a lot of the neighborhoods young black men weren’t really interested legit in work of any kind.

  175. @The Alarmist
    @JohnnyWalker123


    ... how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

     

    It will invite in a hundred million latinos and let the ethnic cleansing roll on. It’s not hard to imagine after seeing exchanges like this....


    https://youtu.be/WRBOV-7nox4

    Replies: @dcthrowback

    I call this the Interesting Cole-Unz Plan for the US (ICUP.US). Note: I do not support this plan, but it seems to be de facto supported by the (((white))) Californians who still remain in the state.

    Other (((whites))) disagree with this plan; to wit, Stephen Miller and Mickey Kaus.

    I decided to call their plan the Kaus-Miller Finish Demographic Minimization (KMFDM) Plan.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @dcthrowback

    I decided to call their plan the Kaus-Miller Finish Demographic Minimization (KMFDM) Plan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLmk9J2AKuI

  176. anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.
     
    Sailer can’t state the obvious during fundraising time.

    Replies: @anon

    You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it’s not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray’s newest book. That’s not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    It’s not blacks that are enabling this. To state the obvious. I’ll call them globohomo, or maybe just Democrats. One problem is that although big business loves growth regardless of quality, they don’t need cheap labor to survive. Labor is a cost that they just pass on to customers. Farmers compete in global commodity markets and simply can’t pay competitive US wages and pass them along. Farming is a backbone of red state economies. Trump simply deranged Democrats, who tried everything, finally digging out the old Civil Rights playbook. It was wildly effective because being labeled a racist is automatic cancelation. And it is approximately equivalent to being painted as a sexual pervert. Denying the charge is proof of guilt.

    But, per Steve:

    nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.

    So this thing has a rather short shelf life. Business, for example, is counting Women and Queer as “Diverse” so there are multiple ways to make your quotas. Immigrants aren’t going to buy any of this, and they have no guilt and partial immunity.

    Even though white Democrats are playing with fire, they reckon their Chicago style solutions will always work. Heavy pressure to self segregate and haul in the Mexicans.

    Overall rather depressing. Makes globo-homo look pretty good.

  177. “Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.”

    It has been stated that nearly a full third of all total annual abortions performed in clinics are done on black women. So in addition to falling birthrates, blacks also get a fairly high number of abortions per year.

    While it can be argued that Freakonomics Steven Levitt’s thesis, that abortions performed in the ’70’s and ’80’s helped to reduce the crime rate during the late ’90’s and ’00’s, falling birthrates, coupled with abortions, should indeed help to reduce the overall crime rate over the next coming decades. In this sense, Levitt’s thesis will be proven correct (at least in part), as fewer bodies born means fewer crimes will be committed.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Sailer already debunked this with logic, statistics, history and everything. But don't let facts get in the way of a good theory.

  178. Steve, your suggestions are socially, culturally, economically, and politically impossible.

    Since 1950 or so, America has replaced Christ and Christianity with worship of black people. This has been very convenient, as it lets the few true Alpha chads sleep around, and women sleep around in general, while penalizing White beta males as innately evil.

    And at the same time, the Devil has been defined as the White beta male. The essence of evil in everything. Convenient for White women, a few Alpha male White men, and of course non Whites everywhere.

    What is happening is easy to see. Since White people and White men in particular bear a blood guilt, that cannot be washed away, and are the essence of evil, a solution final and total must be found. Biden as in much has pointed the way — every Trump voter is now a domestic terrorist and White supremacist. Well, you know what happens with those guys don’t you?

    Can you say Chinese style labor camps? Per Mr. Rogers, I knew you could.

    Taking most everything White people have, giving some of it to blacks and most to major corporations, while putting most White people in forced labor camps is a win-win-win. Black people win because they get some stuff and get to see their enemies, those they hate the most, suffer. The ruling families win because they eliminate the White middle class threat to their oligarchic rule. Corporations win because they get the one thing they prize most: cheap high IQ labor.

    Since Sargon of Akkad (the real ruler not online personality) the path to riches has been to enslave high IQ peoples and use them as forced labor. To build and maintain irrigation networks in Ancient Mesopotamia. In the vast slave plantations of Classical Rome. In the serfdom of Medieval Europe, and the glories of Al Andulucia and Baghdad, both of which ran on high IQ European slaves sold by Vikings. Both declined radically when the slave population dried up with the end of the Viking Era.

    Corporate profits depended upon cheap mostly forced Chinese labor. Increasing prosperity and aging demographics make that impossible going forward. However forced labor camps certainly can keep that going for another ten years or so.

    Impossible, you say? Nothing is impossible when worship of black people as sacred holy redeemers is the official Oligarchs religion (and one which they really do believe like Melinda Gates*) and White men are the official blood guilt of evil which must be eradicated. That’s the plan anyway and hence gun control/seizure, 24/7 black black black black stuff in the media, including black Superman and black Captain America and all that. Plus more black black black black.

    *Melinda Gates is according the to the FT the one behind all the gay, black, anti-White stuff, but I repeat myself, in the Gates Foundation. Bill wants basic science research with metrics and deliverables. She wants raging against White men. More proof if any needed now that White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta White male. Of which Bill is Exhibit A.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Whiskey

    Come on man! You were doing so well staying away from Tiny Duck 'white women worship black Johnson' territory. Now you have fallen back into that tar pit and are getting goopy again.

    This is not a good look for you. Let TD cover the funny black pill stuff. You can tell he's joking. With you it looks like a weird fetish.

    , @Clyde
    @Whiskey


    *Melinda Gates is according the to the FT the one behind all the gay, black, anti-White stuff, but I repeat myself, in the Gates Foundation. Bill wants basic science research with metrics and deliverables. She wants raging against White men. More proof if any needed now that White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta White male. Of which Bill is Exhibit A.
     
    And is why she is warring to extract maximum billions from Bill (via divorce) to set up her own crazed lefty foundation. Get back to me in two-three years because I have predicted this! Without her high powered divorce lawyers Malinda is nothing. With them, she might take all Bill's Microsoft billions. Rob this poor "on the autism spectrum" sap blind.
  179. Perhaps one explanation as to why blacks tend to spend more on conspicuous consumption than their white counterparts. “White Flight” from fairly obvious luxury status markers. In other words, if more and more blacks are purchasing Gucci, Rolex, and Louis Voitton, then whites will tend to avoid these items so that they don’t appear to be going ghetto in their outlook. Or, only the white nouveau riche (e.g. brash and boisterous) will have the desire to purchase obvious status markers of luxury brands.

  180. Russ says:
    @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn't ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Paperback Writer, @Russ, @bomag

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn’t ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    No, because Obama at 3pm was whining to an obeisant press about how sensitive he was about the size of his ears. The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Russ

    The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …

    Nah, that was my homie, David Brooks. Will is the guy with the bowtie.

    Replies: @Russ

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Russ

    Yes, Obama enjoyed his daily tongue bath from the lapdog press. If he was ever asked a tough question during his entire two terms, I never heard it.

  181. Due to reasons of nature and nurture, your race is on average better at sports and music than at coding and physics; and you need to work more on not shooting each other so goddamn much—black self-esteem will vanish and they will just die of embarrassment.

    I’d rather they work on not shooting, raping, robbing, and attacking others so goddammit much. Blacks bother each other, but everyone else pretty much leaves them alone.

  182. @R.G. Camara
    @Redman

    The trifecta of Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Denzel Washington's run as some of the biggest bankable, beloved stars of the 80's and 90s was, in retrospect, not the beginning of a great wave of mainstream black A-list stars, but instead the apex of black mainstream fame.

    After that era, black stars disintegrated into either stereotype roles of thugs (gangsta rap and hip hop images) and race whiners, with the occasional glimmer of a true crossover star, e.g. a Chris Rock or a Dave Chapelle.

    Why? I think it really has to do with the death of the black two-parent, middle-class household. All of those stars above (including Rock and Chappelle) lived most of their young lives in two-parent, middle-class households (Washington's parents divorced when he was 14, but he was shipped off to military school then and so didn't feel the effects right away).

    And thus they could/can find common ground in their routines with whites/yellows/browns also from two-parent/middle-class households. They weren't "ghetto" in their upbringing or act. Behaviorally, they had more in common with a white kid from the suburbs than "tough guy" blacks in the growing ghettoes.

    Even Murphy, who's early act was part incredibly dirty in homage to Richard Pryor, spoke the language of the middle class, because of his upbringing, . Here's the opening sketch scene from Murphy's comedy special "Raw", which shows a typical middle-class scene any middle class child of any race would have recognized: the older parents throw a family holiday party with homemade food, and make the kids perform.

    Murphy turns it into a fart joke to show his comedic/dirty mind, but the frame is something he understood as normal, but that black kids in single parent households today probably think is an alien scene from the start. I certainly related a lot to the scene myself---up until Murphy's kid stand-in starts the flatulence humor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UWMsowL8I

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Deckin

    Chapelle’s parents divorced when he was young. Chapelle spent summers with Dad in Oberlin Ohio.

    A black man is a black man and marriage doesn’t make him a good man. If it’s mom’s husband and her own father rapes a 11 year old or mom’s latest boy friend who rapes her or beats the kids what difference does it make which black man does it? .

    The reason so many black women fled marriage as soon as possible with welfare and affirmative action jobs was is to protect themselves and their kids from black men whether father’s husbands relatives or the boyfriend of the week.

    The reason blacks committed less crime and behaved better in schools before the great welfare bonanza of the 1960s is; police were allowed to arrest and yes, pound on blacks and schools were allowed to physically discipline and expel troublemakers. Not because the resident child beater and rapist was a husband instead of boyfriend of the week.

    Conservatives are so naive and deaf and blind to the truth.

  183. @Gaius Gracchus
    @Puremania

    Pretty much. There is some interesting research along those lines. Owning slaves took one up the status ladder. Most slaveowners were highly leveraged.

    Meanwhile, the South was falling behind economically, as the free North was far more productive without slaves than the South was with slaves.

    Replies: @Curle

    Yes. Odd thing is, slaves weren’t the issue. Freed slaves moving to the North was the issue. That a northern reaction to further freed slaves moving north and becoming wage competitors, charity cases, criminals and molesters of women is presented as northern high mindedness is truly remarkable. Why was the Union army in the South for ten years? To make sure the blacks didn’t leave.

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  184. Russ says:
    @Thoughts
    How exactly are they going to go after Home Equity?

    A list of distinct points would go a long way to stopping that from happening.

    The difference between Conservative Columnists and the irritating liberals posting to Instagram stories is that the liberals give distinct bills and distinct things to pass...policy recs

    A big reason why they always win

    We are too generalized.

    Replies: @Russ

    How exactly are they going to go after Home Equity?

    As I recall, the average home value in Ferguson, MO went from something like $75k before the Gentle Giant and $35k after. Combine that sort of thing with a Biden admin tying federal aid to municipality willingness to build Section 8 housing, and you quickly get the idea.

  185. @Dieter Kief
    I wholeheartedly agree. I'd have but one caveat: It is not so much about lying, as about - not accepting social reality and about being unwilling to acknowledge how big the problem is that is attached to HBD in the US (and not only there).
    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? - That's the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    Replies: @Verity Smurf, @Anon7, @Hockamaw, @JMcG, @Getaclue, @scrivener3, @Dave Pinsen

    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.

    This conflates two separate questions:

    1) What’s the best way to grow the economic pie?

    2) What’s the best way to slice it and divvy it up?

    Ignoring HBD means having a smaller economic pie, as well as less-capable engineers, physicians, cops, firefighters, etc. that will cause more grief and suffering.

    Acknowledging HBD means having a bigger pie and more competent people in crucial jobs, and also having more justification for redistribution. If the poor are poor largely because of a lack of inherited gifts, than that supports calls for more help for them.

    Acknowledging HBD also offers support for policies that would increase the number of smart people versus not-smart people over time.

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @Dave Pinsen

    This is essentially Charles Murray's position.

    It's not getting much traction.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    I - Seen from below

    The question of how those not that bright should (and would) act in a liberal society and what could be done about the simple fact that they exist is at its core, not a question of efficiency but a moral (ethical) question. You acknowledge that by saying, that those not that bright and successful needed help - and should be helped. In a way, that is the consensus for decades: Ok, help is needed. - Since there are lots of still very unsatisfied lower class people, what would you say: That more help is necessary?


    II - Seen from the top

    Elites must be functional in order to be beneficial.

    There can be dysfunctional (group-)egoism of the rather bright.

    A direct line can be drawn from C. Northcote Parkinson to Peter Turchin (elite overproduction-crisis) - to Jonathan Haidt and Jordan B. Peterson. They both made it rather explicit lately that yes: High IQ does not necessarily mean high efficiency or high objectivity or high reasonableness. - They indeed (and rather surprising) hint at the fact, that high IQ goes along with a high risk of failure in judgment/reasonableness.

     One sociological example illustrating this idea I came across just recently. The rather bright were more on the side of the elite's distorted mindset than the average person in the Eastern Block (it thus might be no coincidence, that Jordan Peterson is very interested in the history of the Eastern Block and that Peter Turchin, who grew up in the Soviet Union, is thinking about these things now).

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/40870502?seq=1

    , @Corvinus
    @Dave Pinsen

    Quotation, Author Herbert Spencer

    ! ...The bright and able contribute most to society, and so are to be encouraged and rewarded. The poor, the weak, and the handicapped demand more than they contribute..and should be allowed to die a natural death. Contact with harsh and demanding reality is a maturing experience that should not be diluted by well-intentioned but in all actuality destructive charities and handouts.

  186. @prime noticer
    the correct comparison is africans in America versus africans in Africa. and it's not close. the wrong comparison is africans in America versus the millionaires and billionaires of the world. that's the stupid argument which leftist enemies of civilization use and the yardstick which they've convinced many other people to use.

    "Herr derr, the 1950s sucked if you were black, therefore your argument is invalid. Herr derr, blacks don't score the same on standardized math tests as math geniuses do, therefore the tests are wrong, or at least you need to give africans another 10 trillion dollars so they score the same eventually."

    how were the 1950s for africans in the US versus the 1950s for africans in Africa? that's the only comparison which matters.

    no kidding the people who created and built everything out of nothing have more money and own more stuff and live a better life. why should minimum wage laborers have the exact same lifestyle as the people who built and operate all the automobiles and computers and aircraft and power planets and skyscrapers?

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Alden

    Do you believe that the people who physically build skyscrapers and work in the factories that build autos airplanes and computers are deserving of more than minimum wage?

  187. @Jack D
    @indocon

    The whole "black people/ slaves built America" thing relates to blacks' tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.

    Even in places where blacks or slaves formed a substantial part of the workforce (e.g. in the pre-Civil War construction of Washington, DC), blacks were mainly used as fungible unskilled labor and the important, high value work and supervision was done by skilled artisans who were mostly white. If you have ever been on a construction site and seen, for example, a mason doing his work, the mason is the one who is actually laying the brick and his helpers will be mostly doing the schlepping - bringing materials up onto the scaffold, mixing up mortar, etc. The same thing for the plumbers, the carpenters, etc. etc. - every aspect of the work has a skilled component (not to mention the architects and engineers who design the thing) that requires relatively high IQ individuals to supervise and a grunt labor component that does not. The labor component is more or less fungible - anyone with a strong back will do - blacks, Irish fresh off the boat, whomever. Here's your shovel and start digging. Of course the ditch diggers could never build anything more complex than a ditch by themselves (and even a ditch has to be built to the right depth in the right location) let alone a magnificent structure such as the US Capitol. Guess which role the blacks played?

    Replies: @Charon, @iDeplorable

    There was a black architect once and several engineers too from what I’ve heard so that means y’all racist.

  188. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with your observations in this article, as usual, but this time I don't agree with your assumptions, that is, about the motivation for the woke practices of blacks being worshiped rather than being included as normal members of society under normal rule-of-law. You act like the people who enable all this are simply mistaken. No, it's not a matter of their simply needing to read your column and Charles Murray's newest book. That's not going to help, because this is all purposeful.

    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There's no "botching" of immigration from Africa going on. All around, I see African immigrants where 10. years ago, nobody had every run into one. All that lowered black fertility, though it's the smartest ones with the lowered fertility* anyway, will end up being overridden by this 4-century-later group.

    I don't claim it's all organized to a T, but the ctrl-left wants the cultural and physical destruction we are seeing. Maybe your article is meant to convince those on our side, but it sure won't matter a bit to the other side. They will ramp this all up until the country falls apart or we do more to stop them than just creating nicely-written articles.

    .


    * I've run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Ron Mexico, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @reiner Tor, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Barnard, @Anonymous, @Marty, @G. Poulin, @Svevlad, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad, @Unladen Swallow

    I don’t think it is, self deception, ideology, and wishful thinking I believe is driving this, these people are not that smart, period. The reason that Steve’s ideas are banned from elite discussion is not because he throwing light on their nefarious plans and they want it want suppressed, it’s because their ideas are in effect religious beliefs. Trying to change their minds through rational argument is pointless.

    • Agree: Redman
  189. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    Do you have any sources that proves this?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Shango

    Census data and projections.

  190. @Dave Pinsen
    @Dieter Kief


    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.
     
    This conflates two separate questions:

    1) What's the best way to grow the economic pie?

    2) What's the best way to slice it and divvy it up?

    Ignoring HBD means having a smaller economic pie, as well as less-capable engineers, physicians, cops, firefighters, etc. that will cause more grief and suffering.

    Acknowledging HBD means having a bigger pie and more competent people in crucial jobs, and also having more justification for redistribution. If the poor are poor largely because of a lack of inherited gifts, than that supports calls for more help for them.

    Acknowledging HBD also offers support for policies that would increase the number of smart people versus not-smart people over time.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dieter Kief, @Corvinus

    This is essentially Charles Murray’s position.

    It’s not getting much traction.

  191. @Torn and Frayed
    With a bird’s eye Marxist class analysis the deeper processes at work in the US today become clearer.

    Traditional Marxist class analysis emphasizes the bourgeoisie – proletariat opposition. On side we have capitalists who own means of production. On the other we have the productive working class whose labor is “milked” to produce surplus value upon which society feeds itself. Clearly there are other stratum of class as well. In the middle zone, the petty bourgeoisie own some means of production and they “milk” themselves and small amounts of labor for surplus value. There are also the unproductive white collar and blue-collar workers who while working and indirectly contributing to society, they do not directly produce surplus value for capitalists. At the bottom of society are the parasitical lumpenproletariat: criminals, vagabonds, DIE pimps, gangsters and other scum. Interestingly enough this class is mirrored at the top of society by lumpen-financiers. They perform the same parasitical activities as their lumpenprole cousins, but since this rentier class also controls the means of persuasion, we tend to look up to these Wall Street vultures. When lumpenproles and lumpenfinance align their interests, they form the current high-low political alignment we see in the US. And yes, given the importance of race and identity in the US, lumpenproles and lumpenfinance can be symbolically related to two particular identity groups, both of which score very highly on the ethno-narcissism index! But it is important to point out these are class and not racial relationships, any individual of any race can play any class role. Getting rid of an entire racial group will not eliminate the class they represent.

    Marxist theorists-quite wrongly it turns out--believed the teleological aim of capitalism was to collapse class structure towards the bourgeoisie – proletariat binary opposition. The intermediate classes would whither away as capitalism advanced. The pipe-dream concluded when the proles gained power and Paradise Regained.

    Capitalism features some basic contradictions. In order to create surplus value, it prefers to drive the productive working classes wages down towards subsistence. On the other hand, the concept of a commodity chain means capitalists need to quickly sell those commodities their workers produce in order to recuperate—and more importantly, grow—their capital. A commodity chain needs a consumer at the end of it. At first it was the capitalists themselves, foreign markets, a middle class, etc who filled the consumption role, but eventually, thanks to Henry Ford among others, the worker’s themselves starting playing the role of consumer.

    This works well for a while. But to increase commodity consumption, capitalists are forced to increase worker salaries, and thereby reducing surplus value extraction by allowing workers to retain increasing amounts of the created surplus value. Eventually the workers gain too much wealth and power. Proles who used to willingly submit to the capitalist’s demands are getting increasingly uppity. Given their newfound ability to accumulate modest amounts of wealth, proles may start purchasing land, rental units, shops, garages, craft production facilities etc. The necessary condition for the exploitation of the proletariat is to cut them off from any other means of subsistence and therefore force them to accept the capitalist’s offer of employment. But as the proletariat gain power and wealth, they turn away from the factory floor and lean into petty bourgeois status. They steer their prole children towards white collar respectability. Soon the wealth creating ability of capitalism has damaged the “work ethic” of their proles and leaves but meager labor pickings for the basic internal combustion chamber of the entire capitalist process. A swamp of prosperity results when capitalism recycles some of the extracted surplus value back to the workers in order to fuel their consumption. It becomes more and more difficult—on the domestic market-- to find docile “free” labor ready to be milked for new surplus value.

    At the point where these uppity domestic proles can’t be bothered to go to the factory anymore to get that precious surplus value milked from them, the capitalist must search elsewhere for docile and emasculated labor power. With domestic proles demanding exorbitant salaries, the previously gushing flows of surplus value are reduced to pathetic trickles. It’s hardly worth building factories for the occasional drips and drops of surplus value. Third world immigration helps some, but more is required. Enter the Communist Party of China, who kindly offer to convert their comrades into proletariats by stripping them of their “Iron Rice Bowls” and to pimp them out to Western capital on the condition that the ChiComs would get a good portion of the resulting surplus value flowing into their coffers.

    But what about the commodity chain? Those new Chinese proles need to be kept lean and mean for the next fifty years to maximize surplus value extraction, so no Fordism for them. Those now useless Americans will have to serve as the global glutton of last resort for globalization. But where will the money come from?

    Having a reserve currency helps. During those glory years of capitalism, America created quite a relatively well distributed store of wealth. And so this reserve of wealth needs to be tapped into in order to complete the commodity chain. A lot of it is in white hands. Those same whiteys who tend to be conservative about saving, which is of course why they are still holding on to this wealth.

    So the current class conflict is a remake of the primitive accumulation that occurred at end of feudalism. In the US, this is a high/low alliance of lumpenfinance and lumpenproles, let’s call them the coalition of the ethno-narcissists. Their job is to extract previously stored “petty bourgeois” wealth out of the reserves--often real estate. Stripping the middle class of their wealth is to strip them of access to any means of subsistence. And the best tool to achieve this is the racial guilt /violence pushed by lumpenproles, who also just happen to be indiscriminate consumers of capitalist commodities, and also tend to not have the future time orientation needed for wealth accumulation. This lumpenprole criminality is ideologically supported by lumpenfinance’s PR group, the corporate media. Notice in the racial riots both big box and small business were attacked. This damage is a pinprick to the gigantic merchant capitalist but is a fatal slashing of the jugular for small business. The police are a hinderance to lumpenprole wealth strip mining and so they must be brought to heel. Once the police are neutered, woke capital’s goal of stripping the middle class of their previously obtained wealth will increase in intensity. And no, placing a BLM sign in your front yard will not help you hold on to your home equity. At the end of the process, in 30 years or so, the remnants of the American middle class, now stripped of their means of subsistence, will be ready to happily march back into some new capitalists’ factories, to start the process all over again, should the capitalists be kind enough to offer them the chance.

    Replies: @Rob

    Does Steve still do gold boxes? You deserve several. Seriously, Steve should promote this to a comment-post. This thesis could be expanded into a fantastic book. You would have to avoid naming the Jew, and you would have to emphasize that African-Americans were created by perfidious white, but still.

  192. we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else.

    First, telling people to be grateful like this is offensive and obnoxious and condescending. Even when the data backs it up, people don’t like being talked to like that.

    Statistically, this isn’t a race thing: people living in the US or other nice countries including Mexico are very well off by most measures. Next, people in 2021 generally enjoy higher standards of living than previous time periods.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism.

    No, just treat people as individuals, regardless of race, or make a sincere effort to. Next, Sailer doesn’t believably sound like someone who is sincerely working for the interest of black Americans.

    • Replies: @res
    @Hi There


    First, telling people to be grateful like this is offensive and obnoxious and condescending. Even when the data backs it up, people don’t like being talked to like that.
     
    Perhaps, but what do you suggest we do instead? Because telling them they are flawless and wonderful is clearly not working. Though they do like that.

    No, just treat people as individuals, regardless of race, or make a sincere effort to.
     
    If only. Do you not understand that doing as you ask would entail criticism for everyone as their actions deserve?
  193. @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What a fucking moron.

    Your figures indicate a stagnant black population growth rate. Black increased 15 million from 1990 to 2020, and are peojected to grow a mere 14 million from 2020 - 2050. The immigration is also partially black.


    I swear, this website attracts some of the stupidest commenters on the web.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Welcome!

  194. Hey Andrew R — Trump wasn’t up at 3am “whining” about cable news hosts or anyone else . He was using Twitter to respond to Big Media deception and outright lies . “” C’mon man “ as current President Fraud would say .

  195. @Puremania
    Slavery isn’t the added economic value that people are taught. For instance, freedmen produced as much cotton as slaves, and the price of cotton rebounded quickly after emancipation. Even now, nations using slaves have some of the lowest GDP per capita, while the highest per capita don’t use slavery.
    This may be the most painful truth of all: that a slave is really an overpriced status symbol, like a designer purse. That’s why their insurance premiums were high. Of course, for illumination on the subject we could pick a typical slaveowning family and really delve into the details. Say, Barack Obama’s.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Gaius Gracchus, @Matt Buckalew, @syonredux

    When they tried to use whites to farm in South Carolina and Tidewater Virginia they all died from disease. Slavery got entrenched in areas where only African labor would survive. That’s how we ended up with slavery.

  196. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    There’ve been several news items the past few weeks that make it seem that all of a sudden middle school and high school math as we know it is going poof.

    0. Preface: Remember the crazy Oregon and Washington stories about math being made antiracist? This seemed pretty nuts, with the main changes being claims that various ancient mathematics luminaries were black, changing names in word problems to ethnic names, and things like that. I view this now as a feint to distract attention from the real changes that have just emerged from the Trojan horse, specifically …

    1. Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative: Materials leaked showing that Virginia school officials had decided to enforce a common math curriculum for all students, with lock-step classes, no tracking, from kindergarten through at least tenth grade, no algebra, geometry, or algebra II. Digging into this, there is already curriculum developed. Major math associations endorse this approach, and seem to have been entirely taken over by woke apparatchiks. There are Zoom meetings of the planning group, which is weirdly black — who knew there were so many black math teachers when the Ed Realist guy said they only rarely pass the praxis exams for math teacher certification. The Washington Post offered vague word salad giving the impression that no, this is all a misrepresentation, but the online materials seem clear.

    And then …

    [MORE]

    2. California Mathematics Framework Revision: Then after the Virginia thing had died down a little, pretty much the same stuff comes out of California. There’s to be a new antiracist single-path math program, no eighth grade algebra, no 12th grade calculus. Calculus, it turns out, and according to various captured math associations, is not necessary at all. You can take it in college if you want. In fact, hardly anyone who takes high school calculus goes beyond calculus in college, blah, blah, blah.

    3. Where are the textbooks for this new math coming from? Razib Khan today points to curriculum factories: “When I was an American elementary school kid, we had publishers of textbooks, now we have … whatever this [Learnzillion] is. I think we’re supposed to call it a curriculum. No textbook, no authors and from the looks of it, no editors. But hey, they probably had an ace diversity consultant who saw the movie Slumdog Millionaire, because the story problems feature both a brown child named Dev and a brown teacher named Mr. Patel. My kid’s teacher commiserated with him that ‘the mathematicians’ weren’t very clear here and suggested the trapezoid was the best answer ‘because its sides are different lengths,’ and then subsequently taught the class a square can never be a rectangle, but a rectangle is always a kind of square. This is a public school with some of the highest test scores in the state. It’s hard being a city on a hill, O.K.?”

    Conclusion: All this is an example of when you cannot fix black kids, there’s always the option of wreaking stuff for white and Asian kids. Also, it kind of fits with the trend to get rid of standardized tests and obfuscate differences among groups, since things like taking algebra in the eighth grade and taking calculus are effectively proxies for IQ tests. The California committee report on the math curriculum revision goes on and on about the stress and trauma that math causes students if they are pushed through it too fast. By all means, let kids bail out if they are having problems, but not all students are (everybody has a math ceiling). But tracking like that would reveal differences between population groups, so it cannot be allowed.

  197. Rob says:
    @Anon
    OT: Now California wants to ban advanced math classes. It has been pointed out this is actually an act aimed at sabotaging Asians and whites, in the same way getting rid of SAT scores to get into colleges is aimed at replacing Asians and whites with blacks and Hispanics.

    Nobody ever forced blacks and Hispanics to take calculus in high school, and they almost never did choose to take calculus. This has no effect at all on them. But it will injure smart Asians and whites who would take those classes.

    https://mishtalk.com/economics/to-promote-equality-california-proposes-a-ban-on-advanced-math-classes

    Pretty soon, there will be a flood of whites and Asians leaving California for other states just to get an education.

    By the way, I predicted cash-strapped coastal libtard states would eventually start firing teachers to cut costs after their efforts to defend the police. It looks like they're going to start with the Math teachers, but they are calling it social justice to disguise what they're doing, which is plain old-fashioned cost-cutting.

    The science teachers are likely to be next, those that teach physics and chemistry. Blacks and Hispanics are less likely to take those courses.

    Replies: @joe_mama, @Rob

    While math was never my best subject, grading is more objective than many other subjects. It is very hard to weigh the grades in favor of blacks. Like, white kids will compare their tests to the test of the black kid who got an A and do horrible things, they will do stuff like notice the black kid got 8/10 points on long answer questions he left blank. The black kids’ wrong answers are marked right. Because black kids, especially boys, are less conscientious than whites, the teachers cannot even allow makeup work, or blacks will blow it off and whites won’t.

    An English essay is much different. Not only do the teachers lean more towards GoodWhite-hood, maybe this short essay really was better than a longer essay? There is some subjectivity of grading, and the teachers may not even know how biased they are in favor of blacks. I don’t mean blacks make A’s and whites make C’s. I mean whites deserve their A-, but blacks don’t earn their C+.

    Whatever comparative cognitive deficiencies blacks have, they are much less clear in language than in say, math, science, and logic. Possibly because spoken language is a core part of cognition. Maybe blacks are relatively strong in language the way NE Asians are relatively strong visuospatially.

    I do wonder why black boys are less conscientious than girls. It could just be that males were not selected for conscientiousness, and indeed, low conscientiousness was beneficial for males. It could be that teenage black males excel in some of the key teenage male domains like sports, insouciance, intrasex competition, in ways that black females do not excel in female domains like being pretty. I think black males who go to integrated schools experience a big drop in relative status when no one cares about athletic ability. That must be hard on them.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Rob


    Whatever comparative cognitive deficiencies blacks have, they are much less clear in language than in say, math, science, and logic. Possibly because spoken language is a core part of cognition. Maybe blacks are relatively strong in language the way NE Asians are relatively strong visuospatially.
     
    Harvard-educated engineer and psychometrician Johnson O’Connor believed that language, particularly vocabulary, was the key ingredient to success.

    It was during the course of this testing that O’Connor stumbled upon an unexpected discovery: A person’s vocabulary level was the best single measure for predicting occupational success in every area.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_O%27Connor
     
  198. Anon[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @joe_mama
    @Anon

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in "nice" areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    I believe it's largely because of Common Core curriculums that have already gutted and ruined math. This will largely have a bigger impact. How will CA ethnics respond though? Maybe it'll cause pushback against woke stuff? But if history is any indication it probably won't.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Anon, @Hi There

    Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    Is this for elementary school and early middle school? Are there outside classes for, say, algebra 1 in eighth grade? Could you set up an outside class for calculus and be eligible to take the calculus AP tests? These require more than supplementation. At that point isn’t homeschooling or setting up a private school more practical? If you’re paying money for outside classes, you could put that money towards setting up your own math sequence along with other homeschooling parents, or creating a private school (although give it five years until the school you set up goes woke from below).

    • Replies: @joe_mama
    @Anon

    It seems to be for all ages. It's just supplemental learning, a class they take in the afternoons like it was any other extra-curricular activity like sports or an instrument.

    But that's a common small talk thing among the ethnics: "Who is your tutor?"

  199. Weren’t there several of the families who got the free homes on those makeover shows who took out mortgages and second mortgages and went bankrupt?

  200. Rob says:
    @Scott in PA
    About that immigration policy…

    When blacks are in complete charge of the federal government (President, 9-4 majority on SC), look for immigration to come exclusively from Africa. How? By applying the Ruth Ginsberg rule. When asked how many women should be on the Court, she responded that “nine” would be appropriate, because we have to consider that there was a period in the past where only men were selected. Thus she cloaked an actual policy goal in the guise of a tongue-in-cheek comment.

    Thus exclusive African immigration is needed to make amends for the years of exclusive European immigration.

    As always, radicals and Marxists don’t actually support “non-discrimination” policies, but turning the tables.

    Replies: @Rob

    I have to disagree with you. American blacks and African immigrants do not get along. Having grown up being much more a member of their ethnic group than ‘black,’ black Africans frequently think American blacks are obsessed with race. There is a huge class difference between African immigrants and native blacks. Poor villagers cannot get here. They cannot afford the plane ticket. They cannot read the forms. There is not a huge native demand for Illegal Africans among American employers, so there are no coyotes who will loan money, though the coyote thing might change. Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements, and illegal blacks are worthless for that. The political class blacks may think that more black bodies is an unalloyed good, but most blacks realize that they are up against African blacks for limited diversity slots.

    Nigerians, especially, do not see American whites as ruthless oppressors. They see us as gullible marks, not loyal to our people and too dumb to have children, After all, we let them in, did we not?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Rob

    Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements

    So, literally "Black bodies."

    Replies: @Rob

  201. @Dieter Kief
    @Anon7

    I see your point and think to bring work back was a good thing; to tax work less too.

    What could not be brought to a halt was the decline of black cities and neighborhoods; the riots; the devastating level of black incarceration rates, the poor school performance not least of poor blacks, and all kinds of other rather less fruitful behavior (violence, drug addiction, single mom kids....).
    As an aside: Trump got lost in the Geoge Floyd case. He tried to go with the flow - with quite disastrous results. Might have been reasonable to act this way seen from a purely tactical standpoint, with the elections in mind - I'd accept that. Ok - I know, this is a tough one (the toughest one maybe).

    Replies: @bomag

    What could not be brought to a halt was the decline of black cities and neighborhoods

    Maybe part of reality is that those places are always going to under-perform relative to White/Asian land.

    Time to accept it and move on.

  202. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Didn’t you see ‘Hidden Figures’? They are vital for the next phase of Space exploration.

  203. @dcthrowback
    @The Alarmist

    I call this the Interesting Cole-Unz Plan for the US (ICUP.US). Note: I do not support this plan, but it seems to be de facto supported by the (((white))) Californians who still remain in the state.

    Other (((whites))) disagree with this plan; to wit, Stephen Miller and Mickey Kaus.

    I decided to call their plan the Kaus-Miller Finish Demographic Minimization (KMFDM) Plan.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    I decided to call their plan the Kaus-Miller Finish Demographic Minimization (KMFDM) Plan.

  204. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Moreover, there is the Heisenbergian factor: If a lot of blacks had moved into the neighborhood, it wouldn’t have gone up in value as much. The fundamental reason that homes don’t appreciate as fast in blacker neighborhoods is not their tragic dirt, but because blacks tend to be lousier neighbors. Fortunately, there is an obvious win-win solution: If blacks want to make more money off home ownership, they should work harder at being better neighbors.
     
    Here's what I don't understand about the home equity complaint - if blacks bought low value houses in black neighborhoods regardless of the reason (redlining, or because blacks like being around other blacks), didn't blacks experience a benefit insofar as homeownership was cheaper relative to the general population, and the cost of housing as a fraction of the family budget was much lower than that of the general population?

    All else equal, blacks would have had a premium of liquid capital to invest in other things (or to waste on conspicuous consumption of consumer goods that don't hold value).

    Further, are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances? My experience is that this thing is still quite rare, and that home equity usually gets converted into a fund for support in retirement for most middle class families if it survives sending the kids to Ivy League State. On the whole, the main economic advantage of substantial home equity among middle class families would be the ability to borrow against it for entrepreneurial endeavors, most of which fail anyway and wind up wiping out the family financially.

    Replies: @anon, @Almost Missouri, @photondancer

    “are there statistics on the percentage of the U.S. population that receives substantial inheritances?”

    Someone posted figures in the inheritance thread from a couple of days ago, see towards the end. They claim the median inheritance in the USA is less than $70000.

  205. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Today in history.

    "Most people don’t know that back in 1912, Hellmann’s mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York.This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost.The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day.The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo."

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11faa376298013d4ac00efed48da625e70a55b67c6bb9ebbe1f09b7d1ce8b640.jpg?w=600&h=400

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In honor of Cinco de, I wore the same sox as on St George’s Day. Well, the cheap knock-off Walmart version, anyway. Close, but no la-de-da:

  206. @John Gruskos

    What they could benefit from more of is criticism.
     
    Even more true for another group.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Even more true for another group.

    Nu, I’m listening.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @kaganovitch

    Nu, I’m listening.

    Ну... ведь!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  207. Sean says:

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that,after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level.

    Interesting.

    Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.

    If there is not some inverse connection, like China getting rid of the sparrows and being overrun by caterpillars. Maybe a growing native black population was the greatest promoter of race realism and defense against African immigration. African is a big place and if immigrants from there are not from the top one percent they are of the couple of percent below (what could be called upper muddle class). The predicted exodus of the most capable Africans predicted by Paul Collier entails those emigrating to the West in coming decades would have initial waves whose intelligence may exceed the white average.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.

    Africans running most of the black owned businesses in the US and becoming professors at American universities would be a chastening thing for American blacks. The African immigrants in American noted for their probity would be delighted with tough police action against the criminal American blacks. And whites get the blame. I think that all that is already happening to a great extent, but I don’t see any beneficiaries of the process apart from the rich (they are their countries affluent) African immigrants themselves. Isn’t it better to just put up with the native slave descended blacks we have and insist on favoring them over African immigrants no matter how clever and hard working?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sean

    American blacks don't really have a problem with African immigrants as they increase overall black demographic and political power, provided that they're at the top of the pecking order in this black nationalist coalition.

    American blacks generally don't like the other non-white groups and others in the "coalition of the fringes", but they don't have a problem using non-blacks to build a larger, more powerful coalition than a strictly black one be currently, provided that they're at the top of the pecking order in this coalition and that it ultimately serves black interests and power.

    If blacks alone were already demographically and politically powerful enough, they would drop the pretense of being inclusive of other non-blacks in the coalition.

    The black dominance and favoritism in this coalition is why you have the recent promotion of the term "BIPOC" ("black, indigenous, (and) people of color"). The point of the term is to privilege blacks to the status of the "indigenous" or American Indians. According to the left, American Indians were here before white settlers, and therefore are supposed to have a more legitimate status and claim to the land. But of course, according to this anti-colonial logic, blacks and every other group who came after would also have less legitimacy and claim relative to American Indians. But since the left in the US now is devoted to promoting black interests and power above everybody else, they have to fudge this logic and promote notions like "BIPOC" to suggest that blacks are equivalent in moral status to American Indians and can't be lower than them in the pecking order.

    Replies: @Sean

  208. A good read but hard to imagine the tough talk here is going to reach the people who would most benefit from hearing it – blacks. We can know in an abstract way that they would be better off knowing this stuff, but I can’t see any possible way they could ever learn it and do anything but ignore or lash out.

    The simple reality is that there’s an underlying resentment in this community, and not just toward us. The anti-asian spree in the headlines these days is proof of that; AA behavior in 2021 resembles the Borg, instinctively hostile toward any outsider on that basis alone.

  209. @Redneck farmer
    Fantasy is often better than reality; so I am afraid things will get worse before they get better.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    Fantasy is often better than reality; so I am afraid things will get worse before they get better.

    Gotta admit that these days the Asimov character Hari Seldon comes to mind.

  210. @R.G. Camara
    @Redman

    The trifecta of Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Denzel Washington's run as some of the biggest bankable, beloved stars of the 80's and 90s was, in retrospect, not the beginning of a great wave of mainstream black A-list stars, but instead the apex of black mainstream fame.

    After that era, black stars disintegrated into either stereotype roles of thugs (gangsta rap and hip hop images) and race whiners, with the occasional glimmer of a true crossover star, e.g. a Chris Rock or a Dave Chapelle.

    Why? I think it really has to do with the death of the black two-parent, middle-class household. All of those stars above (including Rock and Chappelle) lived most of their young lives in two-parent, middle-class households (Washington's parents divorced when he was 14, but he was shipped off to military school then and so didn't feel the effects right away).

    And thus they could/can find common ground in their routines with whites/yellows/browns also from two-parent/middle-class households. They weren't "ghetto" in their upbringing or act. Behaviorally, they had more in common with a white kid from the suburbs than "tough guy" blacks in the growing ghettoes.

    Even Murphy, who's early act was part incredibly dirty in homage to Richard Pryor, spoke the language of the middle class, because of his upbringing, . Here's the opening sketch scene from Murphy's comedy special "Raw", which shows a typical middle-class scene any middle class child of any race would have recognized: the older parents throw a family holiday party with homemade food, and make the kids perform.

    Murphy turns it into a fart joke to show his comedic/dirty mind, but the frame is something he understood as normal, but that black kids in single parent households today probably think is an alien scene from the start. I certainly related a lot to the scene myself---up until Murphy's kid stand-in starts the flatulence humor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UWMsowL8I

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Deckin

    The guy on the couch with the hat and sunglasses is Samuel L. Jackson, no?

  211. Just wondering if maybe the race realists (?) and pretty liars both aren’t underestimating just what the Clyburn people are capable of, indeed are already doing, and how dangerous they can be to anyone in their way. They’re not just good at music and sports.

    • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius

    I'd be interested in hearing more about those sophisticated financial instruments. Ponzi schemes? Or are they even more creative than that?

    Replies: @Desiderius

  212. @Puremania
    Slavery isn’t the added economic value that people are taught. For instance, freedmen produced as much cotton as slaves, and the price of cotton rebounded quickly after emancipation. Even now, nations using slaves have some of the lowest GDP per capita, while the highest per capita don’t use slavery.
    This may be the most painful truth of all: that a slave is really an overpriced status symbol, like a designer purse. That’s why their insurance premiums were high. Of course, for illumination on the subject we could pick a typical slaveowning family and really delve into the details. Say, Barack Obama’s.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Gaius Gracchus, @Matt Buckalew, @syonredux

    Indeed. Slavery did a lot of economic and cultural damage to the USA:

    The South had lower average incomes than the North; and per capita income was growing more slowly in the South even before the Civil War. See Unequal Gains by Lindert and Williamson Chapter 5.

    The more important slavery was in a country or state the lower the level of income was in the future. Nathan Nunn “Slavery, Inequality and Economic Development in the Americas: An Examination of the Engerman-Sokoloff Argument (October 2007).

    Slave states had lower levels of educational attainement and less innovation (measured by patents) than states without slavery. This was true even in the areas that were most like the North in geography and economic activity. See John Majewski “Why Did Northerners Oppose the Expansion of Slavery? Economic Developemnt and Education in the Limestone South” Chapter 14 in Slavery’s Capitalsm.

    https://bradleyahansen.blogspot.com/2016/12/capitalism-and-slavery-debate-is-not.html

    True,
    cotton textiles were important for U.S. industrialization, and New England mills used the same
    slave-grown raw material as their competitors in Lancashire. But location within national
    boundaries had little economic significance for this industry. As a bulky but lightweight
    commodity, raw cotton travels easily, and transportation costs play little if any role in textiles
    geography. The protective tariff – strongly opposed by the slave South – was of far greater
    importance for the competitiveness of the antebellum industry
    (Harley 1992, 2001).

    The preceding section suggests that if slavery had been abolished nationally at the time of the Constitution, the Cotton South would have developed through family-scale farms like the rest of the country, delivering as much or perhaps more cotton to the eager textile mills of Lancashire, and building a more diverse and prosperous regional economy in the process.

    Slavery and Anglo-American Capitalism Revisited, Gavin Wright

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Thanks: bomag
  213. • Replies: @anon
    @Desiderius

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/aa/9b/baaa9b68d02bff9f7cca6c5bf5b94f19.jpg

  214. @kaganovitch
    @John Gruskos

    Even more true for another group.

    Nu, I'm listening.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    Nu, I’m listening.

    Ну… ведь!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Kibernetika

    же?

  215. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    In a long and detailed essay, iSteve favorite Nicholas Wade adds his name to list of those who support the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis. He provides new evidence, in particular the fact that bat coronavirus gain-of-function research in Wuhan was being done in BSL-2 labs, “the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office”.

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Anonymous

    Or far more likely some one laughingly sent him the article. Unz is a pretty big joke pretty much everywhere but here and Wade would remember Unz from when Unz was Team CIA undercutting Pete Wilson and throwing open the doors to indios.

    , @Ron Unz
    @Anonymous


    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.
     
    Possibly. Hard to be sure. I've been a little friendly with him for about a decade, but it's been a while since we've been in touch.

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career. Loudly denouncing MLK as a rapist and a pervert would be nothing by comparison.

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there's actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Indeed, various reasonably credible people---whose names would be familiar to you---dropped me private notes afterward praising my article and saying it was one of the best I'd ever written. But they'd never say the same thing publicly in a million years. We all understand that people live under particular constraints.

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    Replies: @Sean, @res, @vhrm

  216. @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV
    "Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows."
    Blacks do NOT have self-esteem. What they have is a childlike, aggressive touchiness that leads to temper tantrums. And because of the Leftist doctrine of egalitarianism that currently reigns supreme in White countries, we MUST treat Blacks as sacred cows. Negro Worship has taken the place of our true religion. Our (((high priests))) have decreed that the ugliest, stupidest, most impulsively violent, most tasteless people must be the most admired, worshiped and emulated.

    Replies: @photondancer

    ” a childlike, aggressive touchiness that leads to temper tantrums”

    Sounds like a helluva lot of people these days. It seems to be an unfortunate side effect of increasing the amount of leisure people have.

  217. TWS says:
    @Anonymous Jew
    @Neoconned

    I grew up going to various South/Central Seattle public schools that were 30-50% Black. At the time, there were virtually no Blacks in the private school system, so I had many years exposure to the full range of the Black bell curve (also before the ones at the bottom dropped out or ended up in prison - the menially employed Blacks that Whites interact with are far from the bottom of the Black bell curve).

    In a very traditional, less permissive society I think most could do OK. But unlike, say, Fancy Asians and most Whites, changes in cultural standards, crime enforcement etc can have huge consequences. (Same goes for low-IQ Whites - see Murray’s “Coming Apart”). And I think that’s the whole point of Steve’s article.

    In 1980s and 1990s Seattle the victimhood-blame-Whitey cult was in full swing, along with complete lack of discipline in the classroom. If the class was all White/Asian things more or less held together. But for the vast majority of Blacks it was most iSteve readers’ worst nightmare. I was there. I know.

    FWIW: living in big cities I’ve worked for a couple genuinely talented (and very dark skinned) Blacks that I believe would have ended up in the same place even absent Affirmative Action. But at the same time I know the law of averages always wins. And for the law of averages, I draw on my experiences from middle school and high school. Yes there were nerds and salt of the earth types, but not nearly enough, and many of them still couldn’t read at 16.

    Replies: @TWS, @R.G. Camara

    There’s a black high school in Seattle. There’s an Ezelle’s chicken across the street. Even though they built an over pass the students still regularly cross the street meandering and blocking traffic. It was in the nineties they simply stopped trying to enforce the law and just let them cross however they liked. Kinda like the new normal of rioting, knife fights and hands off criminal justice top to bottom.

    Every single encounter was another citation or arrest as they would refuse to comply. The city thought holding them to minimal standards was racist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @TWS

    Garfield High School - attended by Jimmy Hendrix before he dropped out and located in the Central District (the “CD”), Seattle’s historically Black neighborhood. The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%. (Interestingly, it started out as a Jewish neighborhood at the turn of the century).

    There are now a dozen Ezell’s all over the Seattle area, including one a short walk from our house in our 2% Black ‘Whiteopia’. Oh, how times have changed. It’s not the same waiting in line with all the 40-something White soccer moms, but the chicken is just as good.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @TWS

  218. Has Tucker himself received the vaccine?

  219. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    * I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.
     
    Just poking my head up to emphasize that AEN's anecdote about intelligent black women is correct. And everyone here who wants to understand American demographics should have their head wrapped around it.

    Blacks actually a much larger dysgenic skew than whites. (For whites the skew is toward the middle--HS grads and some college and away from both the dumb and smart, especially the post-grad degreed.) Blacks account for a big percentage of high college female/male ratio. The better educated (or at least degreed) segment of black women has severe sub-replacement fertility and the dumb blacks are fertile.

    Basically, college educated black women are looking for college educated black men for husbands--which is difficult because high quality black men have ... options--and really want to have an actual husband before having children (i.e. aspire to middle class norms). Many fail to do this and as result their fertility is low.

    As a result, believe it or not, black women in the net are producing even dumber blacks!

    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned "talent tenth" blacks ... is coming from white wombs.

    Replies: @Shango, @Bardon Kaldian

    Sounds like all the high quality black men will be responsible for a new generation of talent tenth who mostly will be non black. Would you agree? Also what do you mean by ” black women in the net”?

  220. Moses says:
    @JMcG
    @Dieter Kief

    Steve has long advocated citizenism. He’s described that as arranging a nation such that it can offer all its citizens a meaningful place in society. The US has offshored a large part of the jobs that could, and should be performed by the intellectually average and below average members of our society. Instead, many of those manufacturing and service jobs are being done by the average and above average Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, and Moroccans who labor for the US customer.
    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Moses, @Paul Jolliffe

    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    Yeah. I came to the same conclusion.

    I used to be a rabid free trader and free marketer.

    No more.

    The social cost is too great, the wealth created too lopsided.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Moses

    As I have concluded as well, we can pay welfare at the cash register, or we can pay it via government transfer payments. The former is far more salutary.

  221. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Henry Canaday

    I agree about Murray - but he's almost an unperson now - his book will not be reviewed and he'll be Watsoned.

    I tend to think that he's got to the age where he thinks "F--- it, if I can't tell the truth now, when can I?".

    That's a sad sentence to write, because it means you can only speak truth these days if you have little to lose.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @cthulhu

    I tend to think that he’s got to the age where he [Murray] thinks “F— it, if I can’t tell the truth now, when can I?”

    Murray said as much in his previous book, Human Diversity. His wife had been remonstrating with him about why he shouldn’t be painting a target on his back, then the Middlebury kerfuffle happen, and his wife immediately removed her objections.

    I think the new book will have little immediate effect, but it will be denounced enough that some people who otherwise wouldn’t pay attention will decide that anything so hated must have something interesting going on, will read it, and will start having doubts. I’ve long felt the whole woke/CRT nexus is the last gasp of the blank slate believers before the tide of GWAS washes them away. The worry is whether the woke will manage to irretrievably ruin the US before they are consigned to the dustbin of history. I’m less optimistic about us surviving with a free country than I used to be 🙁

  222. Moses says:
    @Travis
    the Great awakening - racial reckoning, in recent years gained momentum as non-whites realizes they can use critical race theory and ant-white propaganda to increase their power and advance their careers. It has little to do with Blacks. Most Americans realize nothing can be done to help Blacks that has not been tried and failed. The majority of the students at our Universities are non-whites who understand the limitations of Blacks better than most whites.

    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.

    Almost 50% of the population of Americans under the age of 35 are non-white. They benefit from critical race theory and wokeness. As do single white females and the LGBTQ. So about 70% of young Americans benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. This is the reason it is becoming our dominant culture. It helps young Americans to advance their careers, increase their power while having the extra benefit of hurting white males.

    White males are just 27% of the workforce today and even if they were all 100% opposed to the woke agenda, they are out-numbered because single white females are progressives who benefit from woke ideology and cancel culture. 31% of white females are single and childless at age 30 today. Every year fewer and fewer white females have kids or get married.

    If America was still 60% white we would have more whites willing to risk being cancelled to fight against wokeness. But with whites rapidly becoming a minority with the US, most young whites are just trying to survive without getting blacklisted. Recent White grads have survived college being a minority in college and have learned to keep their heads down and avoid saying anything politically incorrect to avoid getting banished from school or social media. They have learned to submit after 16 years of indoctrination and will not suddenly proclaim that 2+2 is 4. Most White college gards just want to have a career and maybe have children with an Asian or Latina so their children will not be persecuted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Moses

    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.

    This is an important insight.

    A big reason for non-Whites such as Asians and Indians going full retard Woke is that it knee-caps their competent White male competition and opens up career opportunities for them.

    Also explains why so many Asians who know better are shouting that “White Supremacy”(TM) is to blame for “random” (i.e. “Black”) street attacks on Asian grannies and grandpas. It’s good for the elite Asians.

    A young cousin of mine works at Wall Street bank. He was in charge of the summer intern program, received orders not to hire White men and discouraged from hiring White women.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Moses

    They want to piss away finance, one of the few remaining industries America does well at under Free Trade Uber Alles?

    , @Desiderius
    @Moses

    How exactly do you figure that they “know better”?

  223. @TWS
    @Anonymous Jew

    There's a black high school in Seattle. There's an Ezelle's chicken across the street. Even though they built an over pass the students still regularly cross the street meandering and blocking traffic. It was in the nineties they simply stopped trying to enforce the law and just let them cross however they liked. Kinda like the new normal of rioting, knife fights and hands off criminal justice top to bottom.

    Every single encounter was another citation or arrest as they would refuse to comply. The city thought holding them to minimal standards was racist.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    Garfield High School – attended by Jimmy Hendrix before he dropped out and located in the Central District (the “CD”), Seattle’s historically Black neighborhood. The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%. (Interestingly, it started out as a Jewish neighborhood at the turn of the century).

    There are now a dozen Ezell’s all over the Seattle area, including one a short walk from our house in our 2% Black ‘Whiteopia’. Oh, how times have changed. It’s not the same waiting in line with all the 40-something White soccer moms, but the chicken is just as good.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Anonymous Jew


    The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%.
     
    And predictably has become much safer as a result. The CD was a shooting gallery in the 90's.
    , @TWS
    @Anonymous Jew

    My daughter used to play tournaments there. Rats everywhere in the school. I preferred the Ezelles in the U district. Better sweet potato pie. Now there's one between Lynnwood and Edmonds. I used to train TKD right by the old Lynn Twin just down the highway.

  224. @R.G. Camara
    Dang, Steve throwing down the gauntlet. Highly unlikely, tho, that it will be picked up by the lurkers from the traitorous NRO or other "mainstream" righty types.

    The Jews will never give up the blacks as a pawn --- over the past 100 years black muscle, stupidity, and wildness have been far too useful to wield as a weapon. Blacks are very intimidating precisely because they share a physical robustness combined with a uncivilized, savage manner that can go from zero to chimp out in a second ---and its something everyone of every race instinctually understands.

    And if you think they can't guilt Asians or Mexicans or Muslims into feeling bad about blacks, think how they managed to brainwash Irish and Italians who either fought on the side of the North in the Civil War or came in years after slavery was over and dealt with blacks on the streets for generations before moving to the suburbs .How many second-generation Asian/Mexican/Muslim immigrant's kids in this country already parrot woke ideology already?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    And if you think they can’t guilt Asians or Mexicans or Muslims into feeling bad about blacks…How many second-generation Asian/Mexican/Muslim immigrant’s kids in this country already parrot woke ideology already?

    Yes, that’s been the biggest surprise to me about the BLM protests, especially here in California.

    It’s also astonishing how so many Asians, especially elite Asians, are pretending not to notice who’s actually been randomly attacking and beating them on the streets of our major cities.

    “I see nothing! I see nothing!”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ron Unz

    Why do you think they are doing this?
    My guess is that they are vested in having the sympathies of the nation on them, especially since they are heavily discriminated against in this country for being high achieving and having "privilege".

    Also CA is only like 5% Black, so the downsides of being pro-BLM are not as big here as there.

    But it's important to remember, America is much better off than most countries in the world, so immigrant children are grateful to whoever votes for the party that let's their parents in. Since Blacks are 90% Democrat, many of these children believe they have an obligation to protect those individuals.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Ron Unz

  225. @Anonymous
    OT:

    In a long and detailed essay, iSteve favorite Nicholas Wade adds his name to list of those who support the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis. He provides new evidence, in particular the fact that bat coronavirus gain-of-function research in Wuhan was being done in BSL-2 labs, “the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office”.

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron's theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn't mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Ron Unz

    Or far more likely some one laughingly sent him the article. Unz is a pretty big joke pretty much everywhere but here and Wade would remember Unz from when Unz was Team CIA undercutting Pete Wilson and throwing open the doors to indios.

  226. @Desiderius
    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-continuing-crisis/

    Replies: @anon

  227. @Moses
    @Travis


    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.
     
    This is an important insight.

    A big reason for non-Whites such as Asians and Indians going full retard Woke is that it knee-caps their competent White male competition and opens up career opportunities for them.

    Also explains why so many Asians who know better are shouting that "White Supremacy"(TM) is to blame for "random" (i.e. "Black") street attacks on Asian grannies and grandpas. It's good for the elite Asians.

    A young cousin of mine works at Wall Street bank. He was in charge of the summer intern program, received orders not to hire White men and discouraged from hiring White women.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Desiderius

    They want to piss away finance, one of the few remaining industries America does well at under Free Trade Uber Alles?

  228. @Anonymous Jew
    @Neoconned

    I grew up going to various South/Central Seattle public schools that were 30-50% Black. At the time, there were virtually no Blacks in the private school system, so I had many years exposure to the full range of the Black bell curve (also before the ones at the bottom dropped out or ended up in prison - the menially employed Blacks that Whites interact with are far from the bottom of the Black bell curve).

    In a very traditional, less permissive society I think most could do OK. But unlike, say, Fancy Asians and most Whites, changes in cultural standards, crime enforcement etc can have huge consequences. (Same goes for low-IQ Whites - see Murray’s “Coming Apart”). And I think that’s the whole point of Steve’s article.

    In 1980s and 1990s Seattle the victimhood-blame-Whitey cult was in full swing, along with complete lack of discipline in the classroom. If the class was all White/Asian things more or less held together. But for the vast majority of Blacks it was most iSteve readers’ worst nightmare. I was there. I know.

    FWIW: living in big cities I’ve worked for a couple genuinely talented (and very dark skinned) Blacks that I believe would have ended up in the same place even absent Affirmative Action. But at the same time I know the law of averages always wins. And for the law of averages, I draw on my experiences from middle school and high school. Yes there were nerds and salt of the earth types, but not nearly enough, and many of them still couldn’t read at 16.

    Replies: @TWS, @R.G. Camara

    Blacks seemed to do well in the Ottoman Empire, but (1) a lot were East African, not West African; (2) the early Ottoman Empire was characterized by strict Muslim rule enforcement, especially against alcohol—no libertarian moral ethics allowed in the streets; and (3) many of the imported ones were castrated so as to serve as guards to harems and mistresses and not be suspected.*

    *though successful castration itself is not a foolproof method of removing male sexual desire. In Italy some boys were castrated before puberty to preserve their girlish singing voices their entire lives (called Castrati) , and some were wild ladies men with other men’s wives , due to a combination of their fame, the husband’s not knowing castrati could still be sexually functional even if barren, and the absolute promise the cheating women would not get pregnant from a groupie dalliance.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @R.G. Camara

    Blacks seemed to do well in the Ottoman Empire

    Couldn't this just be survivorship bias? The Ottomans imported millions of black slaves, most of whom died in galleys or as eunuch house staff without leaving much of a trace. Naturally a few individuals managed to shine. I also tend to think that pre-industrial culture, which was mostly pre-literate and valued physical ability, was more conducive to black talents than modern society.

  229. @joe_mama
    @Anon

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in "nice" areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    I believe it's largely because of Common Core curriculums that have already gutted and ruined math. This will largely have a bigger impact. How will CA ethnics respond though? Maybe it'll cause pushback against woke stuff? But if history is any indication it probably won't.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Anon, @Hi There

    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.

    IMO, the ace math students don’t need math tutors. K-12 math is baby stuff for kids who are really good at math.

    I breezed through K-12 math, I got a perfect SAT math score with zero prep, I always got the high test scores in the class and I put in zero effort. I never paid attention in class, I would clown around, and it all came very easily. I was a hobby programmer nerd and that was just fun stuff. I never saw a math tutor and the idea that someone would go to a tutor seemed odd to me.

    College was a different story. I expected to ace everything without effort and I actually failed my first advanced math class. The material didn’t come easily. I actually had to study. It was hard. Learning was often hard and frustrating. Tests were stressful. Then, I knew how other kids felt in middle school and high school. I adjusted to much harder material that was challenging for me and I’m glad I did. The content is cool: College Calc, Differential Equations, Integer Number Theory, Cryptography, Linear Algebra, Algebraic Structures, Real Analysis (theoretical calculus), Partial Differential Equations, Toplogy, Metalogic or Metamathematics, cryptography, probability + stochastic processes. All really awesome stuff.

    • Replies: @joe_mama
    @Hi There

    Well, based on your resume here, it's obviously been a long time since you were in K-12 school.

    Common core or "new math" has really messed things up. Math has been purposefully dumbed down, and new age methods instituted. Kids aren't being taught proper math anymore. The smart ethnics get it, hence why they're putting their kids into "Russian Math", "Chinese Math" classes after school.

  230. @Anon
    @joe_mama


    Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.
     
    Is this for elementary school and early middle school? Are there outside classes for, say, algebra 1 in eighth grade? Could you set up an outside class for calculus and be eligible to take the calculus AP tests? These require more than supplementation. At that point isn't homeschooling or setting up a private school more practical? If you're paying money for outside classes, you could put that money towards setting up your own math sequence along with other homeschooling parents, or creating a private school (although give it five years until the school you set up goes woke from below).

    Replies: @joe_mama

    It seems to be for all ages. It’s just supplemental learning, a class they take in the afternoons like it was any other extra-curricular activity like sports or an instrument.

    But that’s a common small talk thing among the ethnics: “Who is your tutor?”

  231. @Anonymous Jew
    @TWS

    Garfield High School - attended by Jimmy Hendrix before he dropped out and located in the Central District (the “CD”), Seattle’s historically Black neighborhood. The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%. (Interestingly, it started out as a Jewish neighborhood at the turn of the century).

    There are now a dozen Ezell’s all over the Seattle area, including one a short walk from our house in our 2% Black ‘Whiteopia’. Oh, how times have changed. It’s not the same waiting in line with all the 40-something White soccer moms, but the chicken is just as good.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @TWS

    The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%.

    And predictably has become much safer as a result. The CD was a shooting gallery in the 90’s.

  232. vhrm says:
    @Sam Malone

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.
     
    This is the key point. And it's a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    That underlying knowledge must be influencing a lot of the dynamics going on now. Any lingering innocence is gone, and as we get farther away from the civil rights revolution of circa 1965 and black achievement stagnates or reverses, the hand-waving motions required to distract from the obvious logic must become ever more frantic. Our 'state religion' is built on a house of cards, so intellectually weak it increasingly needs police powers to sustain it.

    Replies: @anon, @vhrm, @Redman, @Travis

    This is the key point. And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    Creating a Covid vaccine and curing cancer are hard. Making self driving cars is hard.

    Fortunately, in practical terms, dealing with the Racial reckoning is easy. It’s primarily just a matter of perspective. All we have to do is admit that HBD exists and leave everything else pretty much the same. If liberal whites stop pushing the racism angle, BLM, and lionizing Ibrahim Kendi or Tanehisi Coates everything’ll be fine.

    Yes, the school gaps will still be there and the prison gaps and 13% will continue to do 50% and whatnot, but there’s nothing that we can do about that and it’ll be fine as long as the overall numbers keep dropping, as they had been for decades before BLM.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @vhrm

    Reality check:



    https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2021_18/3469958/2021-05-04t045232z_918063138_rc2s8n96y55r_rtrmadp_3_mexico-train-accident_c08b17f80dc12a35bca6a1e69d62e3df.fit-560w.jpg

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/05/USAT/8d78ab44-895e-4168-a507-e7c6aa0dd616-GTY_1316312887.jpg

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/f087c0b3-4678-4c80-b123-620d680687af-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_01.JPG

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/e4823005-636d-466f-83a9-dab662811877-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_07.JPG?width=660&height=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/e493bc25-5cd5-497a-bbd5-5e8c3b1918cc-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_09.JPG?width=660&height=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/05/USAT/12eb5c00-d57f-4f53-8407-7b5024dc7ee9-GTY_1316312675.jpg?width=660&height=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    Replies: @vhrm

  233. @G. Poulin
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The left will never stop lying about these matters. These lies are the thing that give meaning, purpose, and structure to their lives This will end when they have been physically overthrown, and not a minute sooner.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    These lies are the thing that give meaning, purpose, and structure to their lives

    In other words, sheer naked power.

    With zero saved for you.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
  234. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think Steve's mostly right. Far larger than the group you're describing is the ordinary Americans caught between two incompatible points of view. The 17th century shitposter lays it out quite clearly: you're either a racist or an antiracist, or trying to pretend otherwise.

    Where he's wrong - or at least pushing uphill - is in trying to get black people to accept that they're naturally inferior. What self-respecting black guy is going to agree with that?

    Maybe it won't matter, if they're a demographically-shrinking group, and the other non-white races don't look at them through rose-tinted glasses. Perhaps in twenty years black kvetching will simply be ignored.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Blacks have never been this pedestalized, loud and aggressive, and I see no signs that their numbers are decreasing.

    The fundamental racial division on Earth is black vs non-black. That doesn’t change in the US. In fact it’s especially obvious in the US, even if the usual suspects try to make everything white vs non-white.

    A LOT could happen in 20 years. Personally I don’t see how this country lasts that long, but if it does, then blacks will be consuming even more of the national oxygen than they do now.

  235. @utu
    @reiner Tor

    "Smart blacks might actually be worse than dumb ones" - Yes, the smart and acculturated ones may undermine your resolve during the process of ethnic cleansing or genocide, which is what this shark jumping article by Mr. Sailor leads to. You being from Hungary can see further where Mr. Sailer ideas will lead. The problem that your keen eye spotted can be overcome with discipline and lots of vodka. You will have to bite your teeth as the men from the Reserve Police Battalion 101 did to suppress scruples when executing German Jews, the scruples they did not have when dealing with Polish Jews. May 5th, 2021 will be remembered as Julius Streicher moment in Mr. Sailor career.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    You seem to be constantly thinking about genocide. There are other joys in this life, not just killing women and children, you naughty boy!

    • Agree: bomag
    • LOL: TWS
  236. @vhrm
    @Sam Malone


    This is the key point. And it’s a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.
     
    Creating a Covid vaccine and curing cancer are hard. Making self driving cars is hard.

    Fortunately, in practical terms, dealing with the Racial reckoning is easy. It's primarily just a matter of perspective. All we have to do is admit that HBD exists and leave everything else pretty much the same. If liberal whites stop pushing the racism angle, BLM, and lionizing Ibrahim Kendi or Tanehisi Coates everything'll be fine.

    Yes, the school gaps will still be there and the prison gaps and 13% will continue to do 50% and whatnot, but there's nothing that we can do about that and it'll be fine as long as the overall numbers keep dropping, as they had been for decades before BLM.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Reality check:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Reg Cæsar

    How's that relevant? Once HBD is on the table the pressure to have equal representation at all levels starts to fade and we can move back toward more subjective standards.


    Also, that's not unique to Mexico:
    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/26/what-caused-the-genoa-morandi-bridge-collapse-and-the-end-of-an-italian-national-myth

    and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

  237. Anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @WJ
    @Anonymous

    Low IQ south of the border type Camp of the Saint scenario is one thing. Unfettered immigration from Africa is the apocalypse scenario.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s your grandchildrens’ future.

  238. @Kibernetika
    @kaganovitch

    Nu, I’m listening.

    Ну... ведь!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    же?

  239. @scrivener3
    @Dieter Kief

    "Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time."

    I don't accept your assumed premise, that capitalism favors the bright. Being bright favors the bright. Smart people can be expected to do better than dim people everywhere and under any conditions.

    In a socialist country most people are worse off. The whole curve is moved to less affluence but the smart do better than the dumb.

    Under capitalism a smart person can take their brainpower, think of a way to make something that is awful less awful or even enjoyable for many people, go to venture investors and leverage saved capital to roll out their idea on a large scale improving more people's lives faster.

    Hasn't anyone noticed the innovation and rollout speed in the USA (as opposed to Europe, Russia, China) the speed goods and services proliferate.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Many a medical doctor in the GDR or school-teacher or entrepreneur (they did exist) in the Eastern block, in general, enjoyed a standard of living that, seen from a material perspective were poor. Not better than your average bricklayer or carpenter, some of them even worse.

    And – there was, by and large, no way to become rich, let alone superrich. Not even rich by middle-class standards.
    The beach-houses of East Germany’s leaders (!) – at the top of the food chain, were but meek little two-bedroom things, built without any kind of flair or style whatsoever. I’ve been in some of those in 1990. The only big privilege of the East-German elite, in this case, was: These houses were sitting alone in a remote part of the Darß, a peninsula at the coast of the Baltic sea. So – they were amongst themselves and not disturbed by the masses. But that was it.
    To make that clear: I am not arguing pro socialism above.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Dieter Kief

    I suspect it was the quest for actual wealth and not merely some marginal privilege on the part of some of the nomenklatura which motivated the "change" at the end of the 1980s.
    In Albania, there was an attempt at shock horror when it was reported after the turn that there were two refrigerators in Enver Hoxha's house. Later on this was found not to be sufficiently inegalitarian and hypocritical, and it was reported as 20 refrigerators.

    , @Anonymous
    @Dieter Kief

    There were lots of rich people in the USSR but they were by definition criminals. You could become very, very wealthy by being active in the black market and similar activities.

  240. vhrm says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @vhrm

    Reality check:



    https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2021_18/3469958/2021-05-04t045232z_918063138_rc2s8n96y55r_rtrmadp_3_mexico-train-accident_c08b17f80dc12a35bca6a1e69d62e3df.fit-560w.jpg

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/05/USAT/8d78ab44-895e-4168-a507-e7c6aa0dd616-GTY_1316312887.jpg

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/f087c0b3-4678-4c80-b123-620d680687af-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_01.JPG

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/e4823005-636d-466f-83a9-dab662811877-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_07.JPG?width=660&height=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/04/USAT/e493bc25-5cd5-497a-bbd5-5e8c3b1918cc-Mexico_City_Metro_Collapse_09.JPG?width=660&height=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/05/05/USAT/12eb5c00-d57f-4f53-8407-7b5024dc7ee9-GTY_1316312675.jpg?width=660&height=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    Replies: @vhrm

    How’s that relevant? Once HBD is on the table the pressure to have equal representation at all levels starts to fade and we can move back toward more subjective standards.

    Also, that’s not unique to Mexico:
    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/26/what-caused-the-genoa-morandi-bridge-collapse-and-the-end-of-an-italian-national-myth

    and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

  241. @Dave Pinsen
    @Dieter Kief


    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.
     
    This conflates two separate questions:

    1) What's the best way to grow the economic pie?

    2) What's the best way to slice it and divvy it up?

    Ignoring HBD means having a smaller economic pie, as well as less-capable engineers, physicians, cops, firefighters, etc. that will cause more grief and suffering.

    Acknowledging HBD means having a bigger pie and more competent people in crucial jobs, and also having more justification for redistribution. If the poor are poor largely because of a lack of inherited gifts, than that supports calls for more help for them.

    Acknowledging HBD also offers support for policies that would increase the number of smart people versus not-smart people over time.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dieter Kief, @Corvinus

    I – Seen from below

    The question of how those not that bright should (and would) act in a liberal society and what could be done about the simple fact that they exist is at its core, not a question of efficiency but a moral (ethical) question. You acknowledge that by saying, that those not that bright and successful needed help – and should be helped. In a way, that is the consensus for decades: Ok, help is needed. – Since there are lots of still very unsatisfied lower class people, what would you say: That more help is necessary?

    II – Seen from the top

    Elites must be functional in order to be beneficial.

    There can be dysfunctional (group-)egoism of the rather bright.

    A direct line can be drawn from C. Northcote Parkinson to Peter Turchin (elite overproduction-crisis) – to Jonathan Haidt and Jordan B. Peterson. They both made it rather explicit lately that yes: High IQ does not necessarily mean high efficiency or high objectivity or high reasonableness. – They indeed (and rather surprising) hint at the fact, that high IQ goes along with a high risk of failure in judgment/reasonableness.

     One sociological example illustrating this idea I came across just recently. The rather bright were more on the side of the elite’s distorted mindset than the average person in the Eastern Block (it thus might be no coincidence, that Jordan Peterson is very interested in the history of the Eastern Block and that Peter Turchin, who grew up in the Soviet Union, is thinking about these things now).

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/40870502?seq=1

  242. We’ve tried lying and look where that has gotten us.

    Nice zinger of a conclusion.

    Lying often works though… In society, in business, in love, etc. Everybody lies.

    So why doesn’t it work in this case?

    The famous example where lying was a fatal flaw were the Soviet-era communist regimes. But it seems to have worked ok in China. And pretty much everywhere else. Sooo… What gives? Do we need better lying?

    Let’s make lying work again!

  243. @Harry Baldwin
    Great column, Steve, one of your best. I appreciate your use of the phrase "black fragility." It is obvious to any thinking person that black fragility--the (probably correct) assumption that blacks can't handle the truth--is our real problem. We have gotten to the point in Bizarro America where everything that is said by the media is opposite to truth, and so we se the relentless promotion of "white fragility" and "white supremacy" as our real problems.

    Seeing of our opposite-world, I used to find it amusing that one of the most common insults the left threw at Trump was that he was thin-skinned. A rhinoceros is more thin-skinned than Trump. If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn't have lasted a month in office.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jmaie, @Peter Akuleyev

    If Obama had been treated the way Trump was, he wouldn’t have lasted a month in office.

    This is because Obama is a white man disguised as a black man – he has his mother’s IQ and sense of propriety and shame. Trump is temperamentally a black man – a boasting preening braggart with an unjustifiable level of self esteem and no sense of shame.

    • LOL: Bumpkin
  244. @Barnard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The whole for the ctrl-left point is destruction of society. You can go on pretending that people are just screwing up, but they are not. There’s no “botching” of immigration from Africa going on.
     
    They want to destroy the middle class. The elite believe we have no more right to our middle class status than third worlders do and as living standards rise in the third world they want to drag us down so there is less of an environmental impact. They are more than a little defensive about the alarms the "In the future, you will own nothing and you will be happy" video from the World Economic Forum raised. It would be good to start labeling the elites strategy as "Neo-Feudalism" as you point out it may not be well organized, but it is without question their goal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Peter Akuleyev

    Yes, the elites have no intention of handing power over to blacks, they just want to weaken competition from ambitious talented whites. The elite basically wants to return to some version of pre-19th century Europe when aristocratic families could trade land and people back and forth and had more loyally to their own social class than any racial or ethnic identity.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    You credit much too much intelligence to these people.

    Hint: It was elites who imported blacks into America in the first place.

    , @Sean
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The targets of Henry George's ire included landowners ("George advocated for a citizen's dividend paid for by a land value tax") but mainly private commercial banks. The aristocrats of our age are the bondholding and credit creating banks,

    The elite like the current financialised system in which ambitious talented whites head for Wall Street instead of going into manufacturing. because rewards are not in actual industry (productive capacity) Bankers are considered the most 'productive' people in the country because they 'earn' the most. Immigrants are brought in to provide pliable workers, but the middle class lost power when they became afraid to strike. Maybe there is some thought of breaking up a potentially powerful ethic majority to prevent populism. The real endgame will be in relation to China when it becomes clear the US has been eclipsed. Permanently.

  245. @Rob McX
    @Wilkey


    Americans of European descent are, at best, a few percentage points richer than we would be in the countries our ancestors came from. Americans of black descent are 10-20-30 times richer than they would be if they were still in whatever hellhole their ancestors came from.

    The lack of honesty or awareness on this point is jaw-dropping.
     
    • Agree

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Herbert Hoover (!) made the same point in a speech he gave in the 1950s.

    “…..the fifteen million Negroes then in the United States owned more automobiles than all of the 150 million Negroes in Africa and the 150 million white people in Russia put together”.

    • Thanks: Rob McX
  246. @R.G. Camara
    @Anonymous Jew

    Blacks seemed to do well in the Ottoman Empire, but (1) a lot were East African, not West African; (2) the early Ottoman Empire was characterized by strict Muslim rule enforcement, especially against alcohol---no libertarian moral ethics allowed in the streets; and (3) many of the imported ones were castrated so as to serve as guards to harems and mistresses and not be suspected.*

    *though successful castration itself is not a foolproof method of removing male sexual desire. In Italy some boys were castrated before puberty to preserve their girlish singing voices their entire lives (called Castrati) , and some were wild ladies men with other men's wives , due to a combination of their fame, the husband's not knowing castrati could still be sexually functional even if barren, and the absolute promise the cheating women would not get pregnant from a groupie dalliance.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    Blacks seemed to do well in the Ottoman Empire

    Couldn’t this just be survivorship bias? The Ottomans imported millions of black slaves, most of whom died in galleys or as eunuch house staff without leaving much of a trace. Naturally a few individuals managed to shine. I also tend to think that pre-industrial culture, which was mostly pre-literate and valued physical ability, was more conducive to black talents than modern society.

  247. @Bardon Kaldian
    Currently, I am re-reading parts of Lindemann's "Esau's Tears: Modern Antisemitism and the Rise of the Jews" (I've read it ca. 10-13 years ago, but somewhere 50-60% of it; some parts are not too interesting). It covers the history of the Jewish condition in the Western world (including Russia) from 1870 to 1933 in connection with antisemitism. Although the author has narrowed his topic, nevertheless it is a huge subject. His main thesis is simple: Jews are, if not "guilty", at least responsible for modern type antisemitism which, in too many cases, came as the reaction of Gentile host peoples to obnoxious behavior of various Jewish demagogues, activists, journalists, ... and in some cases, prominent, gifted & cultured Jews.

    Some Jewish lachrymose & apologetic historians took offense ("blaming the victim"), but Lindemann is mostly correct. I would give him 4 out of 5 stars.

    Anyway, eminent authors & historians have been writing similar stuff for decades (for instance, Laqueur). On the other hand, I don't know of a single black author, historian, ... who would show even 10% of such unflattering self-examination. I am not talking about IQ (I don't care too much about it); nor about Africa, backwardness .... From the 60's on, there were not black voices that would insist on black criminality, black on white rape stats, their overall social dysfunction, lack of moral compass, destructive social behavioral patterns ...

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews' culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    I don't think that blacks (Muslims, Native Americans, ..) will ever come to 1/10th of something I would call maturity.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @kaganovitch

    To be fair, Larry Elder has been critical of underclass black behavior, as has Thomas Sowell from time to time.

    Weirdly enough, one of the show Boondocks veers wildly between being highly critical of black dysfunction and blaming it all on Tha Man.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Ian Smith

    Sure, but these are relatively mild statements & observations.

    Where can one find equivalents to Spinoza & Koestler?

    There is, for example, the assertion of the extremely influential seventeenth-century philosopher Baruch Spinoza, recognized as one of the most profound thinkers of early modern Europe, that Jewish separatism and sense of superiority, linked to Jewish religious rituals that insult, denigrate, and threaten other religions, have been the fundamental factors in evoking hatred for Jews throughout the ages. In the twentieth century, the noted author Arthur Koestler has stated the matter with characteristic bluntness: “The Jewish religion, unlike any other, is racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.”

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  248. @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gimme a break. Obama wasn't ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Paperback Writer, @Russ, @bomag

    Defending yourself is not a bad instinct.

  249. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    As I said before on another thread, the main problem is that the vast majority of whites, particularly those whites who wield power, simply haven't got a clue about black psychology.

    Blacks collectively know that they've got whitey on the run - at least the power whites are under their thumb - and they are the shot callers, literally, and are making all the running, playing the merry tune and leading the merry dance.

    Nothing but nothing gives blacks greater paroxysms of existential sheer joy and pleasure and happiness than to see whites humiliated. Made to abase themselves, grovel, being objects of contempt and derision, the worthless useless chump, dupe, foil of a cosmic slapstick comedy show, with blacks as the cunning trickster and jokester who fools the chump, make him look ridiculous, and fleeces him of all he's got. African folklore celebrates this trickster as the finest amongst men.

    And in this fucked up Economist whipped world, isn't that *exactly* what we've got?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Another point:

    Massive black African immigration into the USA will be coincident with massive subcon Indian immigration into the USA. Both phenomena are only in their infancy, and the full on chain migration flood will be the lot of future Americans.

    Now, just like blacks, subcons harbor a repressed – or sometimes not repressed – visceral innate hatred of whites and an overwhelming desire to see whites humiliated and destroyed and become their slaves.
    So, white Americans face a future of being attacked by ruthless, maniacal, raging blacks on the one hand, and duplicitous, cunning, cheating and deeply unpleasant subcons on the other. Both groups, which incidentally hate each other, will find common ground to unite and smash whitey.

    What a future for white Americans!!!!!!

    • Replies: @uman
    @Anonymous

    damn, who hurt you?

  250. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    @Barnard

    Yes, the elites have no intention of handing power over to blacks, they just want to weaken competition from ambitious talented whites. The elite basically wants to return to some version of pre-19th century Europe when aristocratic families could trade land and people back and forth and had more loyally to their own social class than any racial or ethnic identity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sean

    You credit much too much intelligence to these people.

    Hint: It was elites who imported blacks into America in the first place.

  251. @Anonymous
    OT:

    In a long and detailed essay, iSteve favorite Nicholas Wade adds his name to list of those who support the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis. He provides new evidence, in particular the fact that bat coronavirus gain-of-function research in Wuhan was being done in BSL-2 labs, “the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office”.

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron's theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn't mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Ron Unz

    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.

    Possibly. Hard to be sure. I’ve been a little friendly with him for about a decade, but it’s been a while since we’ve been in touch.

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career. Loudly denouncing MLK as a rapist and a pervert would be nothing by comparison.

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there’s actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Indeed, various reasonably credible people—whose names would be familiar to you—dropped me private notes afterward praising my article and saying it was one of the best I’d ever written. But they’d never say the same thing publicly in a million years. We all understand that people live under particular constraints.

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Ron Unz


    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career
     
    But Ron, the 'SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis' would have been planned. Yet the lad in Wuhan was a known an American --Chinese lab project. It was an international collaboration funded through a US government grant that the bat lady was working on. Moreover, you are suggesting US soldiers in Wuhan for an international army games disseminated the bioweapon. This would have been and incredible blatant operation against China, they'd have known in a heartbeat the US had done it, and immediately attacked Taiwan and South Korea to let the US know China could not be assailed with impunity. They'd have had no choice unless they wanted a second US bioweapon operation .

    ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9257413/Secret-bat-cages-Wuhan-lab-researchers-planned-breed-animals-virus-experiments.html

    The revelation comes after the World Health Organisation last week backed Beijing's line, saying that a leak from the institute was 'highly unlikely', while giving credence to theories that the virus had entered the country via frozen meat.At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. The team included Peter Daszak, a British-born zoologist whose organisation EcoHealth Alliance has studied bat-borne viruses with Wuhan lab scientists for 15 years, and who has categorically denied that researchers keep the mammals for testing.

    However, The Mail on Sunday has established that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) filed an application in June 2018 to patent 'bat rearing cages' which would be 'capable of healthy growth and breeding under artificial conditions'.
    The patent, which has been seen by this newspaper, was granted in January 2019 – 11 months before Beijing reported that the first cases of the virus in the city had broken out just a few miles from the institute.
     

    But rest easy, Dazak is back in the novel virus business

    The National Institutes of Health has awarded a $7.5 million grant to EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit organization focused on finding unknown viruses in nature, months after the cancellation of an earlier award to the group prompted an outcry over political interference. At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. There is no proof to support the theories, but the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff confirmed in April that U.S. intelligence was investigating the claims. And at a news conference that month, President Trump, when asked about the EcoHealth grant, pledged to “end that grant very quickly

     

    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn't know, just like they didn't know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months. Aren't you asking us to believe just a little too much about the doubling-down stupidities of a US Deep State capable of the technical achievement inherent in creating such a bioweapon the first place?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @res
    @Ron Unz


    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.
     
    Interesting. Thanks for the pointer. Link to your articles there.
    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/writer/ron-unz/

    Also interesting that after posting eight of your articles over two years (as a tie in to your comment, the last May 23, 2014 discussing Nicholas Wade's book), it has been seven years until this one.

    I also notice that the earlier articles were all done as links (with the 2014 article being the only one on the Unz Review) while this article is republished (with a link to your original in the body).

    Any thoughts on that? I am glad to see "respectable" people referencing your work, but those observations make me wonder if they got some pushback in 2014. It is to their credit that your older articles are still there and they just republished this one, but what happened between 2014 and 2021?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @vhrm
    @Ron Unz


    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there’s actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/
     
    The main evidence of biowarfare attack in your article is that the DIA seems to have known about the outbreak in Wuhan before the Chinese NIH. However earlier in the article you point out that the Chinese NIH is orders of magnitude understaffed and underfunded compared to the US NIH let alone compared to our intelligence agencies.

    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.

    Further the "deep state neocons wanted to hurt Chinese economy and Iran leadership"0my paraphrase] motivation also seems arbitrary and unconvincing. Trump was already playing moderately hard against both Iran and China; harder than anyone in the past few decades anyway.

    And qui bono? Even if this hadn't spread to the western world taking out a random sampling of older Iranians and putting some drag on the Chinese economy don't seem game changing in any way.

    Then there's the level of interconnectivity in the world, and especially travel to and from China, which was considerably higher than when SARS more than 15 years earlier. It seems highly unlikely that anyone working with these kind of viruses would think it would spread enough to hurt China, but not enough to escape to the rest of the world.

    The whole argument seems unconvincing to the extreme.

    Whether the virus was fully natural, "accelerated" in a lab, or actually gene spliced i don't know, but escape from a Wuhan lab, possibly related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Zhengli research on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaTG13 , seems MUCH more likely to me than US bioterror attack.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

  252. @Bardon Kaldian
    Currently, I am re-reading parts of Lindemann's "Esau's Tears: Modern Antisemitism and the Rise of the Jews" (I've read it ca. 10-13 years ago, but somewhere 50-60% of it; some parts are not too interesting). It covers the history of the Jewish condition in the Western world (including Russia) from 1870 to 1933 in connection with antisemitism. Although the author has narrowed his topic, nevertheless it is a huge subject. His main thesis is simple: Jews are, if not "guilty", at least responsible for modern type antisemitism which, in too many cases, came as the reaction of Gentile host peoples to obnoxious behavior of various Jewish demagogues, activists, journalists, ... and in some cases, prominent, gifted & cultured Jews.

    Some Jewish lachrymose & apologetic historians took offense ("blaming the victim"), but Lindemann is mostly correct. I would give him 4 out of 5 stars.

    Anyway, eminent authors & historians have been writing similar stuff for decades (for instance, Laqueur). On the other hand, I don't know of a single black author, historian, ... who would show even 10% of such unflattering self-examination. I am not talking about IQ (I don't care too much about it); nor about Africa, backwardness .... From the 60's on, there were not black voices that would insist on black criminality, black on white rape stats, their overall social dysfunction, lack of moral compass, destructive social behavioral patterns ...

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews' culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    I don't think that blacks (Muslims, Native Americans, ..) will ever come to 1/10th of something I would call maturity.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @kaganovitch

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews’ culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    Graetz was writing at a time when Religion still held some sway over the hearts and minds of Europeans. It is only from your perspective, after the triumph of ‘Science’, that this seems self-evidently absurd.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @kaganovitch

    Lindemann on Graetz:


    Indeed, it is likely that reading Graetz’s work acted as a catalyst for Treitschke, prompting him to
    add his voice to the chorus of complaints about Jews in Germany. In the conflict between Treitschke and Graetz some revealing issues arose, often neglected or ignored in accounts of the period. Graetz’s work had become popular among the German-Jewish reading public and had gained a great deal of attention, partly because he tried to present a modern history of the Jews using the most advanced historical techniques of the day, but also because it “breathed a partisan commitment to Jewish revival within the modern world.”46 Although his History of the Jews is still lauded by twentieth-century Jewish historians as one of the great nineteenth-century histories of the Jews, there is little question that the sense of Jewish superiority expressed in it, especially in the eleventh volume, which had first appeared in 1868, was at times narrow and excessive. Indeed, compared with it, Treitschke’s history of the Germans may be described as generous in spirit, especially in its treatment of the relationships of Jews and non Jews, their relative merits and defects.

    Graetz conceived Jewish history as the unfolding of an immanent idea and was inclined to minimize the notion of productive interplay between Jew and Gentile, especially if that interplay entailed Jews learning from or borrowing from the civilizations in which they had existed over the centuries. Even the reconciliation of traditional Judaism with modern culture, as he presented it, was primarily a matter of Jewish self-realization rather than being influenced by Gentile culture. He harbored a deep contempt for the ancient Greeks and a special derision for Christians in the Middle Ages. Even certain tendencies within Judaism, Hasidism, for example, he dismissed summarily - they were
    not, in his eyes, truly Jewish. He denigrated the culture of the Jews in eastern Europe and considered Yiddish an “ugly mongrel tongue.” For such reasons, though even more because of questions raised about the trustworthiness of his scholarship, his history was widely attacked by both Jewish and non Jewish historians in the 1870s. Before Treitschke had read Graetz and responded with such fury, Mommsen had dismissed Graetz’s work as “talmudic”; its intellectual
    level was similar to that of Catholic defenders of the church, with all their “historical falsifications.”

    Since Graetz, borrowing from Herder, believed in a Jewish Volkseele (“folk soul” or a Jewish essence) that was unfolding in history, and since he was hostile to the idea of Jewish assimilation, he naturally rejected Reform Judaism, which Treitschke favored. Graetz considered contemporary European civilization to be “morally and physically sick,” thereby further offending not only Treitschke but a number of liberal Jews in Germany. The distinguished philosopher Hermann Cohen, who had written a rebuttal of Treitschke’s articles, nevertheless spoke of Graetz’s “perverse, emotional judgments.” Ludwig Bamberger, a leading Jewish liberal politician of the day, called him a “zealot and fanatic.
     
  253. @Dieter Kief
    @scrivener3

    Many a medical doctor in the GDR or school-teacher or entrepreneur (they did exist) in the Eastern block, in general, enjoyed a standard of living that, seen from a material perspective were poor. Not better than your average bricklayer or carpenter, some of them even worse.

    And - there was, by and large, no way to become rich, let alone superrich. Not even rich by middle-class standards.
    The beach-houses of East Germany's leaders (!) - at the top of the food chain, were but meek little two-bedroom things, built without any kind of flair or style whatsoever. I've been in some of those in 1990. The only big privilege of the East-German elite, in this case, was: These houses were sitting alone in a remote part of the Darß, a peninsula at the coast of the Baltic sea. So - they were amongst themselves and not disturbed by the masses. But that was it.
    To make that clear: I am not arguing pro socialism above.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Anonymous

    I suspect it was the quest for actual wealth and not merely some marginal privilege on the part of some of the nomenklatura which motivated the “change” at the end of the 1980s.
    In Albania, there was an attempt at shock horror when it was reported after the turn that there were two refrigerators in Enver Hoxha’s house. Later on this was found not to be sufficiently inegalitarian and hypocritical, and it was reported as 20 refrigerators.

  254. Sean says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    @Barnard

    Yes, the elites have no intention of handing power over to blacks, they just want to weaken competition from ambitious talented whites. The elite basically wants to return to some version of pre-19th century Europe when aristocratic families could trade land and people back and forth and had more loyally to their own social class than any racial or ethnic identity.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sean

    The targets of Henry George’s ire included landowners (“George advocated for a citizen’s dividend paid for by a land value tax”) but mainly private commercial banks. The aristocrats of our age are the bondholding and credit creating banks,

    The elite like the current financialised system in which ambitious talented whites head for Wall Street instead of going into manufacturing. because rewards are not in actual industry (productive capacity) Bankers are considered the most ‘productive’ people in the country because they ‘earn’ the most. Immigrants are brought in to provide pliable workers, but the middle class lost power when they became afraid to strike. Maybe there is some thought of breaking up a potentially powerful ethic majority to prevent populism. The real endgame will be in relation to China when it becomes clear the US has been eclipsed. Permanently.

  255. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob
    @Anon

    While math was never my best subject, grading is more objective than many other subjects. It is very hard to weigh the grades in favor of blacks. Like, white kids will compare their tests to the test of the black kid who got an A and do horrible things, they will do stuff like notice the black kid got 8/10 points on long answer questions he left blank. The black kids’ wrong answers are marked right. Because black kids, especially boys, are less conscientious than whites, the teachers cannot even allow makeup work, or blacks will blow it off and whites won’t.

    An English essay is much different. Not only do the teachers lean more towards GoodWhite-hood, maybe this short essay really was better than a longer essay? There is some subjectivity of grading, and the teachers may not even know how biased they are in favor of blacks. I don’t mean blacks make A’s and whites make C’s. I mean whites deserve their A-, but blacks don’t earn their C+.

    Whatever comparative cognitive deficiencies blacks have, they are much less clear in language than in say, math, science, and logic. Possibly because spoken language is a core part of cognition. Maybe blacks are relatively strong in language the way NE Asians are relatively strong visuospatially.

    I do wonder why black boys are less conscientious than girls. It could just be that males were not selected for conscientiousness, and indeed, low conscientiousness was beneficial for males. It could be that teenage black males excel in some of the key teenage male domains like sports, insouciance, intrasex competition, in ways that black females do not excel in female domains like being pretty. I think black males who go to integrated schools experience a big drop in relative status when no one cares about athletic ability. That must be hard on them.

    Replies: @Anon

    Whatever comparative cognitive deficiencies blacks have, they are much less clear in language than in say, math, science, and logic. Possibly because spoken language is a core part of cognition. Maybe blacks are relatively strong in language the way NE Asians are relatively strong visuospatially.

    Harvard-educated engineer and psychometrician Johnson O’Connor believed that language, particularly vocabulary, was the key ingredient to success.

    It was during the course of this testing that O’Connor stumbled upon an unexpected discovery: A person’s vocabulary level was the best single measure for predicting occupational success in every area.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_O%27Connor

  256. @Moses
    @JMcG


    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.
     
    Yeah. I came to the same conclusion.

    I used to be a rabid free trader and free marketer.

    No more.

    The social cost is too great, the wealth created too lopsided.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    As I have concluded as well, we can pay welfare at the cash register, or we can pay it via government transfer payments. The former is far more salutary.

  257. While Sailer seems to believe that blacks can never rise above their present socioeconomic condition because of their intrinsic characteristics, he seems to possess an equally strong belief that whites may stop the present deterioration of their socioeconomical condition by reversing their attitudes, feelings, misconceptions, beliefs, etc., regarding blacks (and nonwhites in general, it seems).

    So, whites’ problem is, according to him, merely epistemological. But, by not assigning responsibility to an exterior entity for that epistemological problem, he admits that whites created the allegedly false narrative to which they are prey.

    So, whites’ problem is at once not intrinsic –therefore solvable — and not caused by exterior forces — therefore intrinsic and unsolvable.

  258. Sean says:
    @Ron Unz
    @Anonymous


    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.
     
    Possibly. Hard to be sure. I've been a little friendly with him for about a decade, but it's been a while since we've been in touch.

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career. Loudly denouncing MLK as a rapist and a pervert would be nothing by comparison.

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there's actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Indeed, various reasonably credible people---whose names would be familiar to you---dropped me private notes afterward praising my article and saying it was one of the best I'd ever written. But they'd never say the same thing publicly in a million years. We all understand that people live under particular constraints.

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    Replies: @Sean, @res, @vhrm

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career

    But Ron, the ‘SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis’ would have been planned. Yet the lad in Wuhan was a known an American –Chinese lab project. It was an international collaboration funded through a US government grant that the bat lady was working on. Moreover, you are suggesting US soldiers in Wuhan for an international army games disseminated the bioweapon. This would have been and incredible blatant operation against China, they’d have known in a heartbeat the US had done it, and immediately attacked Taiwan and South Korea to let the US know China could not be assailed with impunity. They’d have had no choice unless they wanted a second US bioweapon operation .

    ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9257413/Secret-bat-cages-Wuhan-lab-researchers-planned-breed-animals-virus-experiments.html

    The revelation comes after the World Health Organisation last week backed Beijing’s line, saying that a leak from the institute was ‘highly unlikely’, while giving credence to theories that the virus had entered the country via frozen meat.At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. The team included Peter Daszak, a British-born zoologist whose organisation EcoHealth Alliance has studied bat-borne viruses with Wuhan lab scientists for 15 years, and who has categorically denied that researchers keep the mammals for testing.

    However, The Mail on Sunday has established that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) filed an application in June 2018 to patent ‘bat rearing cages’ which would be ‘capable of healthy growth and breeding under artificial conditions’.
    The patent, which has been seen by this newspaper, was granted in January 2019 – 11 months before Beijing reported that the first cases of the virus in the city had broken out just a few miles from the institute.

    But rest easy, Dazak is back in the novel virus business

    The National Institutes of Health has awarded a $7.5 million grant to EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit organization focused on finding unknown viruses in nature, months after the cancellation of an earlier award to the group prompted an outcry over political interference. At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. There is no proof to support the theories, but the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff confirmed in April that U.S. intelligence was investigating the claims. And at a news conference that month, President Trump, when asked about the EcoHealth grant, pledged to “end that grant very quickly

    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months. Aren’t you asking us to believe just a little too much about the doubling-down stupidities of a US Deep State capable of the technical achievement inherent in creating such a bioweapon the first place?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Sean


    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months.
     
    As I've emphasized, it was very likely a rogue operation by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump, probably involving relatively few people. They obviously screwed up big time, but since the previous SARS and MERS epidemics had left America entirely unscathed, their assumptions weren't so totally implausible.

    There only seem to be three posibilities:

    (1) A natural viral outbreak. Maybe, but seems unlikely to me, and Wade's article weakens it further.

    (2) A Wuhan Lab Leak. Despite a full year of Trump/Pompeo promises, absolutely ZERO evidence as of now, except that Wuhan had a virus lab.

    (3) An American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). A great deal of circumstantial evidence and more-than-circumstantial evidence. That's exactly the reason that nobody in the MSM dares even raise the possibility. Anyone who bothered looking at the facts would quickly see that this is by far the most likely scenario.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    Replies: @loren, @Brás Cubas, @Sam Malone

  259. @Russ
    @AndrewR


    Gimme a break. Obama wasn’t ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.
     
    No, because Obama at 3pm was whining to an obeisant press about how sensitive he was about the size of his ears. The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant ...

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …

    Nah, that was my homie, David Brooks. Will is the guy with the bowtie.

    • Replies: @Russ
    @kaganovitch



    The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …
     
    Nah, that was my homie, David Brooks. Will is the guy with the bowtie.
     
    You're probably right. The stench of National Review, in either case.
  260. @Russ
    @AndrewR


    Gimme a break. Obama wasn’t ever up at 3am whining on Twitter about the latest thing someone on cable TV said about him.
     
    No, because Obama at 3pm was whining to an obeisant press about how sensitive he was about the size of his ears. The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant ...

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    Yes, Obama enjoyed his daily tongue bath from the lapdog press. If he was ever asked a tough question during his entire two terms, I never heard it.

  261. @Rob
    @Scott in PA

    I have to disagree with you. American blacks and African immigrants do not get along. Having grown up being much more a member of their ethnic group than ‘black,’ black Africans frequently think American blacks are obsessed with race. There is a huge class difference between African immigrants and native blacks. Poor villagers cannot get here. They cannot afford the plane ticket. They cannot read the forms. There is not a huge native demand for Illegal Africans among American employers, so there are no coyotes who will loan money, though the coyote thing might change. Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements, and illegal blacks are worthless for that. The political class blacks may think that more black bodies is an unalloyed good, but most blacks realize that they are up against African blacks for limited diversity slots.

    Nigerians, especially, do not see American whites as ruthless oppressors. They see us as gullible marks, not loyal to our people and too dumb to have children, After all, we let them in, did we not?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements

    So, literally “Black bodies.”

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Harry Baldwin

    Good catch. If I said I did it intentionally, would you believe me?

  262. jilla says:

    What’s crazy is that no one talks about the equity that was destroyed by the great black migration. The homes of my grandparents on both my mother and father’s side were almost worthless because of the destruction caused by the neighborhoods turning black. My grandmother’s home was sold in the 1990’s for close to the same price that it was purchased for in the 1940’s.

    I haven’t yet heard a good answer from the left that explains how formerly high value neighborhoods saw a tremendous decline in value when blacks moved in. Then, they become gentrified and the values go up again. When asking left leaning people from that period, they make some vague comment about the real estate industry.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @jilla

    My Great Grandfather bought his home in Philadelphia in 1920...the area was later redlined...when he passed away in 1960 the building was sold for less than he paid for it 40 years earlier , as the neighborhood went from 99% white to 10% white during this time.

    In Philly the redlined areas were mostly white, they became mostly black after they were redlined.

  263. Steve,
    One of the best articles you have ever written.

  264. @Shango
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Do you have any sources that proves this?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Census data and projections.

  265. @Anonymous
    Barbados (a clear outlier on most things black) would be the best guess - but only barely exceeding, if it makes it.

    Which basically tells you that blacks in the USA are already receiving reparation, even if that's not how the program is called.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    Judging by their TV shows of the last 10-15 years, there are zillions of professional black bosses in the UK. At any rate, there are now some successful black actors.

  266. @kaganovitch
    @Bardon Kaldian

    True, most previously disadvantaged groups initially indulge in childish national fantasies & uncritical, sometimes silly deliberations (Heinrich Graetz, the doyen of modern Jewish historians, seriously claimed that ancient Hebrews’ culture, taken as a whole, was superior to ancient Greek culture). Just, one gets over it, after some time. It comes with maturity.

    Graetz was writing at a time when Religion still held some sway over the hearts and minds of Europeans. It is only from your perspective, after the triumph of 'Science', that this seems self-evidently absurd.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Lindemann on Graetz:

    Indeed, it is likely that reading Graetz’s work acted as a catalyst for Treitschke, prompting him to
    add his voice to the chorus of complaints about Jews in Germany. In the conflict between Treitschke and Graetz some revealing issues arose, often neglected or ignored in accounts of the period. Graetz’s work had become popular among the German-Jewish reading public and had gained a great deal of attention, partly because he tried to present a modern history of the Jews using the most advanced historical techniques of the day, but also because it “breathed a partisan commitment to Jewish revival within the modern world.”46 Although his History of the Jews is still lauded by twentieth-century Jewish historians as one of the great nineteenth-century histories of the Jews, there is little question that the sense of Jewish superiority expressed in it, especially in the eleventh volume, which had first appeared in 1868, was at times narrow and excessive. Indeed, compared with it, Treitschke’s history of the Germans may be described as generous in spirit, especially in its treatment of the relationships of Jews and non Jews, their relative merits and defects.

    Graetz conceived Jewish history as the unfolding of an immanent idea and was inclined to minimize the notion of productive interplay between Jew and Gentile, especially if that interplay entailed Jews learning from or borrowing from the civilizations in which they had existed over the centuries. Even the reconciliation of traditional Judaism with modern culture, as he presented it, was primarily a matter of Jewish self-realization rather than being influenced by Gentile culture. He harbored a deep contempt for the ancient Greeks and a special derision for Christians in the Middle Ages. Even certain tendencies within Judaism, Hasidism, for example, he dismissed summarily – they were
    not, in his eyes, truly Jewish. He denigrated the culture of the Jews in eastern Europe and considered Yiddish an “ugly mongrel tongue.” For such reasons, though even more because of questions raised about the trustworthiness of his scholarship, his history was widely attacked by both Jewish and non Jewish historians in the 1870s. Before Treitschke had read Graetz and responded with such fury, Mommsen had dismissed Graetz’s work as “talmudic”; its intellectual
    level was similar to that of Catholic defenders of the church, with all their “historical falsifications.”

    Since Graetz, borrowing from Herder, believed in a Jewish Volkseele (“folk soul” or a Jewish essence) that was unfolding in history, and since he was hostile to the idea of Jewish assimilation, he naturally rejected Reform Judaism, which Treitschke favored. Graetz considered contemporary European civilization to be “morally and physically sick,” thereby further offending not only Treitschke but a number of liberal Jews in Germany. The distinguished philosopher Hermann Cohen, who had written a rebuttal of Treitschke’s articles, nevertheless spoke of Graetz’s “perverse, emotional judgments.” Ludwig Bamberger, a leading Jewish liberal politician of the day, called him a “zealot and fanatic.

  267. res says:
    @Anonymous Jew
    @Anonymous Jew

    *later/latter and the curse of iPhone typing.

    In the news:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/asian-american-women-stabbed-san-francisco-attack-77497315

    What’s the over-under on the race of the attacker? I feel like I’m getting too confident with this game. Maybe this one will surprise me? There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.

    Replies: @res, @Redman

    There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.

    Given population rates of violent crime, a 50-50 mix would mean over 5:1 odds you are right.

    The name (Patrick Thompson) made me wonder, but things seem pretty clear after seeing the race/hair/eyes unavailable in the arrest report here.
    https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/arrest/74854360/patrick-thompson-arrest.html

    There is a phone photo shown starting at 1:08 of the video here
    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/asian-american-attacks-san-francisco-police-identify-suspect-market-street-stabbing-2-women/

    They seem to have worked to obscure things (notice the way the head area is darkened on the full screen version compared to the initial view of the phone), but it looks to me like you were right.

    • Thanks: Anonymous Jew, vhrm
  268. It would help if all those “Best Places to Live” features dropped all coy pretense and simply called them “Whitest Places to Live.” (Though to be fair there are plenty of white nutjobs roaming the streets now)

    Anyway, very good column. The problem I keep citing is that Americans who play by the rules somehow feel embarrassed for the miscreants who are busy ruining the public space, rather than feeling pissed enough to police the misbehavior. So for example you get the DeBlasio/Cuomo NYC instead of the Giuliani/Bloomberg NYC.

    Murray is like the one family member who not only realizes that someone is out of control but also demands that it’s time for an intervention, embarrassment or not

  269. @Anonymous Jew
    @Anonymous Jew

    *later/latter and the curse of iPhone typing.

    In the news:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/asian-american-women-stabbed-san-francisco-attack-77497315

    What’s the over-under on the race of the attacker? I feel like I’m getting too confident with this game. Maybe this one will surprise me? There are a lot of homeless White dudes on Market Street. I recall the homeless there are about 50-50 White-Black.

    Replies: @res, @Redman

    If he were white, the article would have said so.

  270. @Jonathan Mason
    @AndrewR

    Was Trump thick-skinned or thin-skinned? Do blacks have high self esteem or low self esteem?

    Discuss in no more than 10,000 words.

    Reaction formation.

    In psychoanalytic theory, reaction formation (German: Reaktionsbildung) is a defense mechanism in which emotions and impulses which are anxiety-producing or perceived to be unacceptable are mastered by exaggeration of the directly opposing tendency.

    The reaction formations belong to Level 3 of neurotic defense mechanisms, which also include dissociation, displacement, intellectualization, and repression. [Wikipedia]

    So which is it? Does Trump have incredibly high self-esteem, so that all attacks or criticism are mere pinpricks or does he use bluster and misdirection to cover up his sense of inadequacy?

    Perhaps a clue might be his tendency to lean towards paranoid conspiracy theories, which are the ultimate form of reaction formation.

    "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!"

    https://youtu.be/h6BJJe9JV_A

    Now as far as black people and their self-esteem. Is the appearance of arrogance and confidence a reflection of self-image, or is it merely an aggressive defense strategy.

    I have spent quite a bit of my life in the company of black people, both at work and socially, for example when I lived in Bermuda for 11 years, or in the Dominican Republic for 4 years, or in the USA for many years, and in my personal opinion, it is mostly, but not always, bluster concealing an inner sense of inadequacy.

    However, I don't think this is confined to blacks at all. It is also quite common in white Americans. For example many civilian people have a kind of obsession with the military, and like to wear camouflage suits and boots, put military bumper stickers or veterans tags on their cars, wear military haircuts, fly flags on poles outside their homes, or even post signs outside their homes saying that trespassers will be shot on sight ( I guess they do not get deliveries from Amazon.)

    This comes across as projecting a display of strength hiding a sense of inferiority, like a dog barking loudly as it retreats.

    So, yeah, to me it seems that a lot of black self-esteem is actually a primitive defense mechanism to protect the individual from anxiety.

    For example the person who says that rap music is the best music and the best poetry in the world is probably not comparing it objectively to Bach or Shakespeare, which they do not even understand.

    However remember that there are also some jazz musicians who can effortlessly improvise variations on the fly in a way that is stunning to classical musicians, and they probably do have very high self esteem, and deservedly so.

    https://youtu.be/ke2_qob16ls

    Tatum apparently could not read music as he was "legally" blind.

    Replies: @Redman

    Perhaps a clue might be his tendency to lean towards paranoid conspiracy theories, which are the ultimate form of reaction formation.

    Trump? Like what conspiracy theories do you mean? Some of his followers may have that tendency, but everything Trump said was happening, was happening. He has a keen sense of realism, and actually lacks the natural intellectual curiosity of a believer in hidden conspiracies.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  271. res says:
    @Hi There

    we must recognize that blacks have a very good deal in America even if they aren’t as rich as everybody else.
     
    First, telling people to be grateful like this is offensive and obnoxious and condescending. Even when the data backs it up, people don't like being talked to like that.

    Statistically, this isn't a race thing: people living in the US or other nice countries including Mexico are very well off by most measures. Next, people in 2021 generally enjoy higher standards of living than previous time periods.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism.

     

    No, just treat people as individuals, regardless of race, or make a sincere effort to. Next, Sailer doesn't believably sound like someone who is sincerely working for the interest of black Americans.

    Replies: @res

    First, telling people to be grateful like this is offensive and obnoxious and condescending. Even when the data backs it up, people don’t like being talked to like that.

    Perhaps, but what do you suggest we do instead? Because telling them they are flawless and wonderful is clearly not working. Though they do like that.

    No, just treat people as individuals, regardless of race, or make a sincere effort to.

    If only. Do you not understand that doing as you ask would entail criticism for everyone as their actions deserve?

  272. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/ZolbarSakusun/status/1389997105431863298?s=20

    Just wondering if maybe the race realists (?) and pretty liars both aren't underestimating just what the Clyburn people are capable of, indeed are already doing, and how dangerous they can be to anyone in their way. They're not just good at music and sports.

    https://youtu.be/aeGZmOr6qn8

    Replies: @res

    I’d be interested in hearing more about those sophisticated financial instruments. Ponzi schemes? Or are they even more creative than that?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @res

    You’ve got to take everything that guy says with a grain of salt, but then again see Matthew 5:13. Whites should be getting pretty salty about what’s being done to them. Blacks (and not just blacks!) have recognized the lack thereof and are making their move.

    Some of the shenanigans they’ve been pulling are less sophisticated than a Nigerian scam but hey if they’re working who’s the fool?

  273. @Sam Malone

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.
     
    This is the key point. And it's a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    That underlying knowledge must be influencing a lot of the dynamics going on now. Any lingering innocence is gone, and as we get farther away from the civil rights revolution of circa 1965 and black achievement stagnates or reverses, the hand-waving motions required to distract from the obvious logic must become ever more frantic. Our 'state religion' is built on a house of cards, so intellectually weak it increasingly needs police powers to sustain it.

    Replies: @anon, @vhrm, @Redman, @Travis

    And when is Sandy O’Connor’s famous 25 years until “we don’t need affirmative action any more” coming due? I think it’s in a couple of years.

    Maybe the SCOTUS can revisit that decision and scrap the project. Not holding my breath.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Redman


    And when is Sandy O’Connor’s famous 25 years until “we don’t need affirmative action any more” coming due? I think it’s in a couple of years.
     
    2028 based on this>>>>

    "But she cast the decisive vote to uphold affirmative action in higher education in a 2003 case, Grutter v. Bollinger, a precedent that still stands"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  274. anon[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz
    @R.G. Camara


    And if you think they can’t guilt Asians or Mexicans or Muslims into feeling bad about blacks...How many second-generation Asian/Mexican/Muslim immigrant’s kids in this country already parrot woke ideology already?
     
    Yes, that's been the biggest surprise to me about the BLM protests, especially here in California.

    It's also astonishing how so many Asians, especially elite Asians, are pretending not to notice who's actually been randomly attacking and beating them on the streets of our major cities.

    "I see nothing! I see nothing!"

    Replies: @anon

    Why do you think they are doing this?
    My guess is that they are vested in having the sympathies of the nation on them, especially since they are heavily discriminated against in this country for being high achieving and having “privilege”.

    Also CA is only like 5% Black, so the downsides of being pro-BLM are not as big here as there.

    But it’s important to remember, America is much better off than most countries in the world, so immigrant children are grateful to whoever votes for the party that let’s their parents in. Since Blacks are 90% Democrat, many of these children believe they have an obligation to protect those individuals.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @anon


    Why do you think they are doing this?
     
    For the same reason the descendants of Irish, Italian, Poles, etc. are: they are brainwashed to do it.
    , @Ron Unz
    @anon


    Why do you think they are doing this?
     
    Ha, ha, ha. Probably for mostly the same reasons that pretty much all the whites of a similar background are doing the same thing. Why was Matt Yglesias so reluctant to admit he'd been randomly attacked and badly beaten by blacks? Why are there those photos of white police officers kneeling to Black Lives Matter protesters? Are white police unaware of the facts of racial crime?

    Admittedly, Asians are the ones being beaten and stabbed, so that would shift them a little in the direction of reality. But Asians also tend to be more socially-conformist than whites, so that would balance it out.

    Basically, most people conform to the Official Woke Truth promoted by the MSM, which declares that blacks are victims not attackers.
  275. @Hi There
    @joe_mama


    This will be interesting to see on how things play out. Currently in CA (especially in “nice” areas), you already have ethnics attend their own math tutor classes after school. The Russians goto their Russian math tutors, Chinese goto their Chinese tutors, Japanese goto Kumon and so forth.
     
    IMO, the ace math students don't need math tutors. K-12 math is baby stuff for kids who are really good at math.

    I breezed through K-12 math, I got a perfect SAT math score with zero prep, I always got the high test scores in the class and I put in zero effort. I never paid attention in class, I would clown around, and it all came very easily. I was a hobby programmer nerd and that was just fun stuff. I never saw a math tutor and the idea that someone would go to a tutor seemed odd to me.

    College was a different story. I expected to ace everything without effort and I actually failed my first advanced math class. The material didn't come easily. I actually had to study. It was hard. Learning was often hard and frustrating. Tests were stressful. Then, I knew how other kids felt in middle school and high school. I adjusted to much harder material that was challenging for me and I'm glad I did. The content is cool: College Calc, Differential Equations, Integer Number Theory, Cryptography, Linear Algebra, Algebraic Structures, Real Analysis (theoretical calculus), Partial Differential Equations, Toplogy, Metalogic or Metamathematics, cryptography, probability + stochastic processes. All really awesome stuff.

    Replies: @joe_mama

    Well, based on your resume here, it’s obviously been a long time since you were in K-12 school.

    Common core or “new math” has really messed things up. Math has been purposefully dumbed down, and new age methods instituted. Kids aren’t being taught proper math anymore. The smart ethnics get it, hence why they’re putting their kids into “Russian Math”, “Chinese Math” classes after school.

  276. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:
    @I, Libertine

    "I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. . . . Two of them had one kid, and one had none."
     
    I admit it; I had to read that twice. I knew that the first meaning I derived was probably not what was intended.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Frankenstein scores at last!”

  277. res says:
    @Ron Unz
    @Anonymous


    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.
     
    Possibly. Hard to be sure. I've been a little friendly with him for about a decade, but it's been a while since we've been in touch.

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career. Loudly denouncing MLK as a rapist and a pervert would be nothing by comparison.

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there's actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Indeed, various reasonably credible people---whose names would be familiar to you---dropped me private notes afterward praising my article and saying it was one of the best I'd ever written. But they'd never say the same thing publicly in a million years. We all understand that people live under particular constraints.

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    Replies: @Sean, @res, @vhrm

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    Interesting. Thanks for the pointer. Link to your articles there.
    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/writer/ron-unz/

    Also interesting that after posting eight of your articles over two years (as a tie in to your comment, the last May 23, 2014 discussing Nicholas Wade’s book), it has been seven years until this one.

    I also notice that the earlier articles were all done as links (with the 2014 article being the only one on the Unz Review) while this article is republished (with a link to your original in the body).

    Any thoughts on that? I am glad to see “respectable” people referencing your work, but those observations make me wonder if they got some pushback in 2014. It is to their credit that your older articles are still there and they just republished this one, but what happened between 2014 and 2021?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @res


    Also interesting that after posting eight of your articles over two years (as a tie in to your comment, the last May 23, 2014 discussing Nicholas Wade’s book), it has been seven years until this one.
     
    Well, up to around that point, for many years my articles had been very widely discussed and circulated in the elite MSM. For example, both David Brooks of the NYT and a top Economist editor said my Meritocracy piece was probably the best article published anywhere in America that year. Lots of my other articles received very favorable mention, and the NYT solicited a couple of op-eds from me, as did lots of other MSM outlets.

    Then I got tied up on other things for a couple of years, including building this website, and when I finally got back to writing, I started my American Pravda series which was far too "touchy" for anyone to go near publicly, and that's been the situation for the last few years. So I was really quite pleased when GLP asked to republish my Covid-19 analysis.
  278. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    * I’ve run into 3 light-skinned very competent black women at my work over the last year. They were each near or at the end of child-bearing age. Two of them had one kid, and one had none. Yet, you go to the store and see most single black moms have multiple kids, with the lot of it being supported by the White taxpayer.
     
    Just poking my head up to emphasize that AEN's anecdote about intelligent black women is correct. And everyone here who wants to understand American demographics should have their head wrapped around it.

    Blacks actually a much larger dysgenic skew than whites. (For whites the skew is toward the middle--HS grads and some college and away from both the dumb and smart, especially the post-grad degreed.) Blacks account for a big percentage of high college female/male ratio. The better educated (or at least degreed) segment of black women has severe sub-replacement fertility and the dumb blacks are fertile.

    Basically, college educated black women are looking for college educated black men for husbands--which is difficult because high quality black men have ... options--and really want to have an actual husband before having children (i.e. aspire to middle class norms). Many fail to do this and as result their fertility is low.

    As a result, believe it or not, black women in the net are producing even dumber blacks!

    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned "talent tenth" blacks ... is coming from white wombs.

    Replies: @Shango, @Bardon Kaldian

    But not to worry, the replacement for the race-hustling light skinned “talent tenth” blacks … is coming from white wombs.

    Strange- when the stats had been available, virtually 3% births by WW had a black father. Even more for BW-WM combination, but percentages translate into different numbers, so it’s rather puzzling why so many WW hang with black men. Before 1985, the percentage was less than 0.5%

  279. @kaganovitch
    @Russ

    The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …

    Nah, that was my homie, David Brooks. Will is the guy with the bowtie.

    Replies: @Russ

    The joys of George Will cooing about the pleat in his pant …

    Nah, that was my homie, David Brooks. Will is the guy with the bowtie.

    You’re probably right. The stench of National Review, in either case.

  280. Anonymous[926] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that,after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level.
     
    Interesting.

    Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II.
     
    If there is not some inverse connection, like China getting rid of the sparrows and being overrun by caterpillars. Maybe a growing native black population was the greatest promoter of race realism and defense against African immigration. African is a big place and if immigrants from there are not from the top one percent they are of the couple of percent below (what could be called upper muddle class). The predicted exodus of the most capable Africans predicted by Paul Collier entails those emigrating to the West in coming decades would have initial waves whose intelligence may exceed the white average.

    Nah, blacks have plenty of self-esteem. What they could benefit from more of is criticism. Blacks need to be treated as if they were human beings rather than sacred cows.
     
    Africans running most of the black owned businesses in the US and becoming professors at American universities would be a chastening thing for American blacks. The African immigrants in American noted for their probity would be delighted with tough police action against the criminal American blacks. And whites get the blame. I think that all that is already happening to a great extent, but I don't see any beneficiaries of the process apart from the rich (they are their countries affluent) African immigrants themselves. Isn't it better to just put up with the native slave descended blacks we have and insist on favoring them over African immigrants no matter how clever and hard working?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    American blacks don’t really have a problem with African immigrants as they increase overall black demographic and political power, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this black nationalist coalition.

    American blacks generally don’t like the other non-white groups and others in the “coalition of the fringes”, but they don’t have a problem using non-blacks to build a larger, more powerful coalition than a strictly black one be currently, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this coalition and that it ultimately serves black interests and power.

    If blacks alone were already demographically and politically powerful enough, they would drop the pretense of being inclusive of other non-blacks in the coalition.

    The black dominance and favoritism in this coalition is why you have the recent promotion of the term “BIPOC” (“black, indigenous, (and) people of color”). The point of the term is to privilege blacks to the status of the “indigenous” or American Indians. According to the left, American Indians were here before white settlers, and therefore are supposed to have a more legitimate status and claim to the land. But of course, according to this anti-colonial logic, blacks and every other group who came after would also have less legitimacy and claim relative to American Indians. But since the left in the US now is devoted to promoting black interests and power above everybody else, they have to fudge this logic and promote notions like “BIPOC” to suggest that blacks are equivalent in moral status to American Indians and can’t be lower than them in the pecking order.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Anonymous


    American blacks don’t really have a problem with African immigrants as they increase overall black demographic and political power, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this black nationalist coalition.
     
    They didn't resent Obama?; who told the bankers he was the only things standing between they and a mob with pitchforks.

    American blacks generally don’t like the other non-white groups and others in the “coalition of the fringes”, but they don’t have a problem using non-blacks to build a larger, more powerful coalition than a strictly black one be currently, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this coalition and that it ultimately serves black interests and power.
     
    If it were announced there was to be reparations and affirmative action for the identifiable descendants of US slavery (ie American blacks), they would be well pleased. If only American blacks qualified for US government preferences and emoluments for blacks then they'd accept the exclusion of African immigrants and a moratorium on any further immigration of them and no access to AA and free money for those who chose to immigrate. It is already becoming clear that foreign black fathered half castes are dominating.
  281. @Ian Smith
    @Bardon Kaldian

    To be fair, Larry Elder has been critical of underclass black behavior, as has Thomas Sowell from time to time.

    Weirdly enough, one of the show Boondocks veers wildly between being highly critical of black dysfunction and blaming it all on Tha Man.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Sure, but these are relatively mild statements & observations.

    Where can one find equivalents to Spinoza & Koestler?

    There is, for example, the assertion of the extremely influential seventeenth-century philosopher Baruch Spinoza, recognized as one of the most profound thinkers of early modern Europe, that Jewish separatism and sense of superiority, linked to Jewish religious rituals that insult, denigrate, and threaten other religions, have been the fundamental factors in evoking hatred for Jews throughout the ages. In the twentieth century, the noted author Arthur Koestler has stated the matter with characteristic bluntness: “The Jewish religion, unlike any other, is racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.”

    • Agree: Ian Smith
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    To the extent that Shintoism is a real religion, it's racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.

    Hinduism has its issues as well.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  282. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Ian Smith

    Sure, but these are relatively mild statements & observations.

    Where can one find equivalents to Spinoza & Koestler?

    There is, for example, the assertion of the extremely influential seventeenth-century philosopher Baruch Spinoza, recognized as one of the most profound thinkers of early modern Europe, that Jewish separatism and sense of superiority, linked to Jewish religious rituals that insult, denigrate, and threaten other religions, have been the fundamental factors in evoking hatred for Jews throughout the ages. In the twentieth century, the noted author Arthur Koestler has stated the matter with characteristic bluntness: “The Jewish religion, unlike any other, is racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.”

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    To the extent that Shintoism is a real religion, it’s racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.

    Hinduism has its issues as well.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    This has some similarities, but is generally different. Shintoism is basically a multi-layered national religion, based on animism, which has become very nationalist in the 19th C & later. But, they have only Japan & Japan's imperial house as the true focus of interest and make no claims about inherent superiority of the Japanese over other people (they know, after all, that they got most of their historical culture from China).

    In Hinduism, it is mostly about castes & ritual impurity.

    But, in classical Judaism situation is different: there is one God, the creator of everything, who has decided that one single group of people is his favorite group, whether they keep their promises or not. Moreover, there is a curious notion that Jews are somehow higher than all other humans, because they have different spiritual anthropology (levels of "soul", Pintele Yid). I don't know of any other developed religion that claims other human beings have inferior "spiritual essence" in comparison with its adherents. According to this spiritual anthropology, only Jews have godly "layers" of the soul (2 upper strata), while all other humans have just 3 out of 5 layers of the "soul".

    Other religionists or non-believers may think others are biologically inferior, dumber, weaker, more lustful ....- but not a single other religious culture, dead or alive, claims that all other human beings are fundamentally different & destined by creator of the universe to exist as almost animals as compared with the favored group. No such thing anywhere, and Kabbalistic efforts to enunciate the difference in spiritual anthropology between Jews and Gentiles is not an aberration, but affirmation of normative Judaism's fundamental principles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGFkSk9mLHs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ji_Y7YEbKY

  283. Clyde says:
    @Redman
    @Sam Malone

    And when is Sandy O'Connor's famous 25 years until "we don't need affirmative action any more" coming due? I think it's in a couple of years.

    Maybe the SCOTUS can revisit that decision and scrap the project. Not holding my breath.

    Replies: @Clyde

    And when is Sandy O’Connor’s famous 25 years until “we don’t need affirmative action any more” coming due? I think it’s in a couple of years.

    2028 based on this>>>>

    “But she cast the decisive vote to uphold affirmative action in higher education in a 2003 case, Grutter v. Bollinger, a precedent that still stands”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Clyde

    We are 18/25ths of the way to not needing anymore affirmative action.

    Replies: @res

  284. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    To the extent that Shintoism is a real religion, it's racially discriminatory,
    nationally segregative, and socially tension-creating.

    Hinduism has its issues as well.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    This has some similarities, but is generally different. Shintoism is basically a multi-layered national religion, based on animism, which has become very nationalist in the 19th C & later. But, they have only Japan & Japan’s imperial house as the true focus of interest and make no claims about inherent superiority of the Japanese over other people (they know, after all, that they got most of their historical culture from China).

    In Hinduism, it is mostly about castes & ritual impurity.

    But, in classical Judaism situation is different: there is one God, the creator of everything, who has decided that one single group of people is his favorite group, whether they keep their promises or not. Moreover, there is a curious notion that Jews are somehow higher than all other humans, because they have different spiritual anthropology (levels of “soul”, Pintele Yid). I don’t know of any other developed religion that claims other human beings have inferior “spiritual essence” in comparison with its adherents. According to this spiritual anthropology, only Jews have godly “layers” of the soul (2 upper strata), while all other humans have just 3 out of 5 layers of the “soul”.

    Other religionists or non-believers may think others are biologically inferior, dumber, weaker, more lustful ….- but not a single other religious culture, dead or alive, claims that all other human beings are fundamentally different & destined by creator of the universe to exist as almost animals as compared with the favored group. No such thing anywhere, and Kabbalistic efforts to enunciate the difference in spiritual anthropology between Jews and Gentiles is not an aberration, but affirmation of normative Judaism’s fundamental principles.

  285. Sean says:
    @Anonymous
    @Sean

    American blacks don't really have a problem with African immigrants as they increase overall black demographic and political power, provided that they're at the top of the pecking order in this black nationalist coalition.

    American blacks generally don't like the other non-white groups and others in the "coalition of the fringes", but they don't have a problem using non-blacks to build a larger, more powerful coalition than a strictly black one be currently, provided that they're at the top of the pecking order in this coalition and that it ultimately serves black interests and power.

    If blacks alone were already demographically and politically powerful enough, they would drop the pretense of being inclusive of other non-blacks in the coalition.

    The black dominance and favoritism in this coalition is why you have the recent promotion of the term "BIPOC" ("black, indigenous, (and) people of color"). The point of the term is to privilege blacks to the status of the "indigenous" or American Indians. According to the left, American Indians were here before white settlers, and therefore are supposed to have a more legitimate status and claim to the land. But of course, according to this anti-colonial logic, blacks and every other group who came after would also have less legitimacy and claim relative to American Indians. But since the left in the US now is devoted to promoting black interests and power above everybody else, they have to fudge this logic and promote notions like "BIPOC" to suggest that blacks are equivalent in moral status to American Indians and can't be lower than them in the pecking order.

    Replies: @Sean

    American blacks don’t really have a problem with African immigrants as they increase overall black demographic and political power, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this black nationalist coalition.

    They didn’t resent Obama?; who told the bankers he was the only things standing between they and a mob with pitchforks.

    American blacks generally don’t like the other non-white groups and others in the “coalition of the fringes”, but they don’t have a problem using non-blacks to build a larger, more powerful coalition than a strictly black one be currently, provided that they’re at the top of the pecking order in this coalition and that it ultimately serves black interests and power.

    If it were announced there was to be reparations and affirmative action for the identifiable descendants of US slavery (ie American blacks), they would be well pleased. If only American blacks qualified for US government preferences and emoluments for blacks then they’d accept the exclusion of African immigrants and a moratorium on any further immigration of them and no access to AA and free money for those who chose to immigrate. It is already becoming clear that foreign black fathered half castes are dominating.

  286. @Clyde
    @Redman


    And when is Sandy O’Connor’s famous 25 years until “we don’t need affirmative action any more” coming due? I think it’s in a couple of years.
     
    2028 based on this>>>>

    "But she cast the decisive vote to uphold affirmative action in higher education in a 2003 case, Grutter v. Bollinger, a precedent that still stands"

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    We are 18/25ths of the way to not needing anymore affirmative action.

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @res
    @Steve Sailer

    But as we all know, it's going to be like the 80:20 rule on steroids. That last 1/25 will take 24/25 of the true time.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  287. vhrm says:
    @Ron Unz
    @Anonymous


    Wade also reveals himself to be an Unz.com reader by taking a dig at Ron’s theory that the Yuri Deigin essay was ghostwritten by the CIA. He doesn’t mention Ron by name, but the reference is obvious.
     
    Possibly. Hard to be sure. I've been a little friendly with him for about a decade, but it's been a while since we've been in touch.

    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career. Loudly denouncing MLK as a rapist and a pervert would be nothing by comparison.

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there's actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Indeed, various reasonably credible people---whose names would be familiar to you---dropped me private notes afterward praising my article and saying it was one of the best I'd ever written. But they'd never say the same thing publicly in a million years. We all understand that people live under particular constraints.

    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.

    Replies: @Sean, @res, @vhrm

    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there’s actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    The main evidence of biowarfare attack in your article is that the DIA seems to have known about the outbreak in Wuhan before the Chinese NIH. However earlier in the article you point out that the Chinese NIH is orders of magnitude understaffed and underfunded compared to the US NIH let alone compared to our intelligence agencies.

    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.

    Further the “deep state neocons wanted to hurt Chinese economy and Iran leadership”0my paraphrase] motivation also seems arbitrary and unconvincing. Trump was already playing moderately hard against both Iran and China; harder than anyone in the past few decades anyway.

    And qui bono? Even if this hadn’t spread to the western world taking out a random sampling of older Iranians and putting some drag on the Chinese economy don’t seem game changing in any way.

    Then there’s the level of interconnectivity in the world, and especially travel to and from China, which was considerably higher than when SARS more than 15 years earlier. It seems highly unlikely that anyone working with these kind of viruses would think it would spread enough to hurt China, but not enough to escape to the rest of the world.

    The whole argument seems unconvincing to the extreme.

    Whether the virus was fully natural, “accelerated” in a lab, or actually gene spliced i don’t know, but escape from a Wuhan lab, possibly related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Zhengli research on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaTG13 , seems MUCH more likely to me than US bioterror attack.

    • Agree: Sean
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @vhrm


    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.
     
    You're making a fool of yourself. In Jan and Feb, America was totally incompetent at detecting the spread of a *known* virus in its own country whose genetic profile had already been published by the Chinese allowing detection kits. However, you're claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence. As I noted in my long article:

    According to these multiply-sourced mainstream media accounts, by “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency was already preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms. The implications are rather obvious.
     
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#the-smoking-gun

    Replies: @Sean

  288. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Another point:

    Massive black African immigration into the USA will be coincident with massive subcon Indian immigration into the USA. Both phenomena are only in their infancy, and the full on chain migration flood will be the lot of future Americans.

    Now, just like blacks, subcons harbor a repressed - or sometimes not repressed - visceral innate hatred of whites and an overwhelming desire to see whites humiliated and destroyed and become their slaves.
    So, white Americans face a future of being attacked by ruthless, maniacal, raging blacks on the one hand, and duplicitous, cunning, cheating and deeply unpleasant subcons on the other. Both groups, which incidentally hate each other, will find common ground to unite and smash whitey.

    What a future for white Americans!!!!!!

    Replies: @uman

    damn, who hurt you?

  289. @Verity Smurf
    @Dieter Kief

    The truth is that white men who refuse to be team players and desperately cling to a therapeutic mythological narrative of history are the source of most societal ills

    Fact 1: white men commit a disproportionate amount of gun violence

    Fact 2: whites tried to attack the country during the 1/6 insurrection

    Fact 3: most people and all People of Color view white supremacy as the frat evil of our time

    I’m open to FACTS that counter what I see as the truth but you guys never provide any

    It’s all insults and mumbling about IQ

    You would think that mountains of academic peer reviewed research rejecting your stances would tell you something but I guess not.

    I almost feel bad for you people. The People are tired of playing nice and will take what is equitable and you guys will scream about reverse racism impotently. My only hope is that private ownership of firearms is abolished so you cannot take innocents to hell with you

    Replies: @No Recent Commenting History, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Ron Mexico

    Are you the smurf that got the extra chromosome?

  290. @Moses
    @Travis


    It is not a coincidence that the Great Awakening occurred as whites became a minority at our Universities and among the youth population. The majority of Americans under the age of 35 are woke and benefit from wokeness. They demand wokeness at the firms they work at, because it advances their careers while cancelling the white male competition.
     
    This is an important insight.

    A big reason for non-Whites such as Asians and Indians going full retard Woke is that it knee-caps their competent White male competition and opens up career opportunities for them.

    Also explains why so many Asians who know better are shouting that "White Supremacy"(TM) is to blame for "random" (i.e. "Black") street attacks on Asian grannies and grandpas. It's good for the elite Asians.

    A young cousin of mine works at Wall Street bank. He was in charge of the summer intern program, received orders not to hire White men and discouraged from hiring White women.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Desiderius

    How exactly do you figure that they “know better”?

  291. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief
    @scrivener3

    Many a medical doctor in the GDR or school-teacher or entrepreneur (they did exist) in the Eastern block, in general, enjoyed a standard of living that, seen from a material perspective were poor. Not better than your average bricklayer or carpenter, some of them even worse.

    And - there was, by and large, no way to become rich, let alone superrich. Not even rich by middle-class standards.
    The beach-houses of East Germany's leaders (!) - at the top of the food chain, were but meek little two-bedroom things, built without any kind of flair or style whatsoever. I've been in some of those in 1990. The only big privilege of the East-German elite, in this case, was: These houses were sitting alone in a remote part of the Darß, a peninsula at the coast of the Baltic sea. So - they were amongst themselves and not disturbed by the masses. But that was it.
    To make that clear: I am not arguing pro socialism above.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Anonymous

    There were lots of rich people in the USSR but they were by definition criminals. You could become very, very wealthy by being active in the black market and similar activities.

  292. @res
    @Desiderius

    I'd be interested in hearing more about those sophisticated financial instruments. Ponzi schemes? Or are they even more creative than that?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    You’ve got to take everything that guy says with a grain of salt, but then again see Matthew 5:13. Whites should be getting pretty salty about what’s being done to them. Blacks (and not just blacks!) have recognized the lack thereof and are making their move.

    Some of the shenanigans they’ve been pulling are less sophisticated than a Nigerian scam but hey if they’re working who’s the fool?

  293. Best defense is a good offense.

    Remarkable how much dissident right resembles Indian chiefs looking down their noses at white man’s lack of honor. White man’s worrying about honor once he’s taken y’all’s land and put your skinny asses on a reservation.

  294. @JMcG
    @Dieter Kief

    Steve has long advocated citizenism. He’s described that as arranging a nation such that it can offer all its citizens a meaningful place in society. The US has offshored a large part of the jobs that could, and should be performed by the intellectually average and below average members of our society. Instead, many of those manufacturing and service jobs are being done by the average and above average Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, and Moroccans who labor for the US customer.
    If age brings wisdom (a big if) then as I’ve aged I have increasingly realized that free trade just doesn’t work. It enriches a handful beyond the dreams of avarice, raises millions a half step out of peonage, and reduces millions of others to wage slaves.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Moses, @Paul Jolliffe

    I was persuaded of the folly of “free trade” when I read Pat Buchanan’s “ The Great Betrayal: How American Sovereignty and Social Justice are being sacrificed to the Gods of the Global Economy” twenty five years ago.
    Since then, Buchanan’s arguments have only grown stronger, not weaker.

  295. @Dave Pinsen
    @Dieter Kief


    Since it is true, that capitalism favors the bright, what does that mean for those not so bright? – That’s the gnashing ghost (the nightmare) in the closet of our time.
     
    This conflates two separate questions:

    1) What's the best way to grow the economic pie?

    2) What's the best way to slice it and divvy it up?

    Ignoring HBD means having a smaller economic pie, as well as less-capable engineers, physicians, cops, firefighters, etc. that will cause more grief and suffering.

    Acknowledging HBD means having a bigger pie and more competent people in crucial jobs, and also having more justification for redistribution. If the poor are poor largely because of a lack of inherited gifts, than that supports calls for more help for them.

    Acknowledging HBD also offers support for policies that would increase the number of smart people versus not-smart people over time.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dieter Kief, @Corvinus

    Quotation, Author Herbert Spencer

    ! …The bright and able contribute most to society, and so are to be encouraged and rewarded. The poor, the weak, and the handicapped demand more than they contribute..and should be allowed to die a natural death. Contact with harsh and demanding reality is a maturing experience that should not be diluted by well-intentioned but in all actuality destructive charities and handouts.

  296. @anon
    @Ron Unz

    Why do you think they are doing this?
    My guess is that they are vested in having the sympathies of the nation on them, especially since they are heavily discriminated against in this country for being high achieving and having "privilege".

    Also CA is only like 5% Black, so the downsides of being pro-BLM are not as big here as there.

    But it's important to remember, America is much better off than most countries in the world, so immigrant children are grateful to whoever votes for the party that let's their parents in. Since Blacks are 90% Democrat, many of these children believe they have an obligation to protect those individuals.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Ron Unz

    Why do you think they are doing this?

    For the same reason the descendants of Irish, Italian, Poles, etc. are: they are brainwashed to do it.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  297. @anon
    @Ron Unz

    Why do you think they are doing this?
    My guess is that they are vested in having the sympathies of the nation on them, especially since they are heavily discriminated against in this country for being high achieving and having "privilege".

    Also CA is only like 5% Black, so the downsides of being pro-BLM are not as big here as there.

    But it's important to remember, America is much better off than most countries in the world, so immigrant children are grateful to whoever votes for the party that let's their parents in. Since Blacks are 90% Democrat, many of these children believe they have an obligation to protect those individuals.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Ron Unz

    Why do you think they are doing this?

    Ha, ha, ha. Probably for mostly the same reasons that pretty much all the whites of a similar background are doing the same thing. Why was Matt Yglesias so reluctant to admit he’d been randomly attacked and badly beaten by blacks? Why are there those photos of white police officers kneeling to Black Lives Matter protesters? Are white police unaware of the facts of racial crime?

    Admittedly, Asians are the ones being beaten and stabbed, so that would shift them a little in the direction of reality. But Asians also tend to be more socially-conformist than whites, so that would balance it out.

    Basically, most people conform to the Official Woke Truth promoted by the MSM, which declares that blacks are victims not attackers.

  298. @res
    @Ron Unz


    On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised that the entirely respectable Genetic Literacy Project asked permission to republish my entire article on their website.
     
    Interesting. Thanks for the pointer. Link to your articles there.
    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/writer/ron-unz/

    Also interesting that after posting eight of your articles over two years (as a tie in to your comment, the last May 23, 2014 discussing Nicholas Wade's book), it has been seven years until this one.

    I also notice that the earlier articles were all done as links (with the 2014 article being the only one on the Unz Review) while this article is republished (with a link to your original in the body).

    Any thoughts on that? I am glad to see "respectable" people referencing your work, but those observations make me wonder if they got some pushback in 2014. It is to their credit that your older articles are still there and they just republished this one, but what happened between 2014 and 2021?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    Also interesting that after posting eight of your articles over two years (as a tie in to your comment, the last May 23, 2014 discussing Nicholas Wade’s book), it has been seven years until this one.

    Well, up to around that point, for many years my articles had been very widely discussed and circulated in the elite MSM. For example, both David Brooks of the NYT and a top Economist editor said my Meritocracy piece was probably the best article published anywhere in America that year. Lots of my other articles received very favorable mention, and the NYT solicited a couple of op-eds from me, as did lots of other MSM outlets.

    Then I got tied up on other things for a couple of years, including building this website, and when I finally got back to writing, I started my American Pravda series which was far too “touchy” for anyone to go near publicly, and that’s been the situation for the last few years. So I was really quite pleased when GLP asked to republish my Covid-19 analysis.

    • Thanks: res
  299. @Harry Baldwin
    @Rob

    Employers do not want blacks, except to meat diversity requirements

    So, literally "Black bodies."

    Replies: @Rob

    Good catch. If I said I did it intentionally, would you believe me?

  300. Anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Frankly,

    As I see the issue of Blacks and these social events, one must understand them with the notion that in America, and all other industrialized nations, society is geared toward the poor more than it is geared toward the rich.

    That is not to say in living standards or conditions, but that in those societies those with big poverty problems & crime issues tend to have more children.

    Even in “based” countries like in China, minorities and poor have more children than the rich and industrious, even though the lives of the minorities and the poor are markedly worse. So society begins orienting toward them over time, regardless of what the ruling elites might think. The easiest thing is to reverse the trend of birthrates where instead the rich can have more children than the poor. If you do this, all the other problems will go away.

  301. @vhrm
    @Ron Unz


    This is a serious problem because as I summarized in my long article, there’s actually strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was indeed due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Those so interested can read my article and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/
     
    The main evidence of biowarfare attack in your article is that the DIA seems to have known about the outbreak in Wuhan before the Chinese NIH. However earlier in the article you point out that the Chinese NIH is orders of magnitude understaffed and underfunded compared to the US NIH let alone compared to our intelligence agencies.

    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.

    Further the "deep state neocons wanted to hurt Chinese economy and Iran leadership"0my paraphrase] motivation also seems arbitrary and unconvincing. Trump was already playing moderately hard against both Iran and China; harder than anyone in the past few decades anyway.

    And qui bono? Even if this hadn't spread to the western world taking out a random sampling of older Iranians and putting some drag on the Chinese economy don't seem game changing in any way.

    Then there's the level of interconnectivity in the world, and especially travel to and from China, which was considerably higher than when SARS more than 15 years earlier. It seems highly unlikely that anyone working with these kind of viruses would think it would spread enough to hurt China, but not enough to escape to the rest of the world.

    The whole argument seems unconvincing to the extreme.

    Whether the virus was fully natural, "accelerated" in a lab, or actually gene spliced i don't know, but escape from a Wuhan lab, possibly related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Zhengli research on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaTG13 , seems MUCH more likely to me than US bioterror attack.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.

    You’re making a fool of yourself. In Jan and Feb, America was totally incompetent at detecting the spread of a *known* virus in its own country whose genetic profile had already been published by the Chinese allowing detection kits. However, you’re claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence. As I noted in my long article:

    According to these multiply-sourced mainstream media accounts, by “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency was already preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms. The implications are rather obvious.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#the-smoking-gun

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Ron Unz


    However, you’re claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence
     
    We are still in the dark about what the exact course of the early epidemic and what China knew and when, and what we do think we know was is based on accounts of few social media poss that have since been wiped. There are probably some surveillance capabilities that the DIA have which are not understood outside the intelligence community or the agency itself; such information is closely guarded as a source of power. Moreover, there was an obvious candidate for an intel conduit of information from China to DIA through Daszak's involvement with the Wuhan lab on US government funded gain of function research. I can think of many ways that the DIA could have leveraged this international collaboration into knowledge of what was happening in Wuhan. So someone at the DIA could have perfectly legitimately had a bit more information than you think and also made an inspired guess, which became embarrassing and was suppressed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daszak Starting in 2014, Daszak was project lead of the six NIH projects no. 2R01AI110964-01 to 2R01AI110964-06 [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] which focused on the emergence of novel zoonotic coronaviruses (CoV) with bat-origin. Among the aims of the project was to characterize as well "the diversity and distribution of high spillover-risk SARSr-CoVs in bats in southern China" as the "SARSr-CoV spillover risk" by using "S protein sequence data, infectious clone technology, in vitro and in vivo infection experiments and analysis of receptor binding […]". Some of the project's work was performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), and parts of this research are considered gain-of-function studies.[12] The six projects received a total funding of $3,748,715 from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).[11]
     
    So interested parties in US intel (which the DIA is part of) would have more ways of finding out about or at least surmising the existence of any novel disease incipient emergency in Wuhan than having started it themselves, or heard about it around the water cooler from some member of your putative rogue group doing the bidding of Neocons.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  302. @Sean
    @Ron Unz


    However, the crucial point is that for anyone remotely associated with the MSM to even recognize that there exists the theoretical possibility that Covid-19 was an American bioweapon would be instantly 100% fatal to his career
     
    But Ron, the 'SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis' would have been planned. Yet the lad in Wuhan was a known an American --Chinese lab project. It was an international collaboration funded through a US government grant that the bat lady was working on. Moreover, you are suggesting US soldiers in Wuhan for an international army games disseminated the bioweapon. This would have been and incredible blatant operation against China, they'd have known in a heartbeat the US had done it, and immediately attacked Taiwan and South Korea to let the US know China could not be assailed with impunity. They'd have had no choice unless they wanted a second US bioweapon operation .

    ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9257413/Secret-bat-cages-Wuhan-lab-researchers-planned-breed-animals-virus-experiments.html

    The revelation comes after the World Health Organisation last week backed Beijing's line, saying that a leak from the institute was 'highly unlikely', while giving credence to theories that the virus had entered the country via frozen meat.At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. The team included Peter Daszak, a British-born zoologist whose organisation EcoHealth Alliance has studied bat-borne viruses with Wuhan lab scientists for 15 years, and who has categorically denied that researchers keep the mammals for testing.

    However, The Mail on Sunday has established that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) filed an application in June 2018 to patent 'bat rearing cages' which would be 'capable of healthy growth and breeding under artificial conditions'.
    The patent, which has been seen by this newspaper, was granted in January 2019 – 11 months before Beijing reported that the first cases of the virus in the city had broken out just a few miles from the institute.
     

    But rest easy, Dazak is back in the novel virus business

    The National Institutes of Health has awarded a $7.5 million grant to EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit organization focused on finding unknown viruses in nature, months after the cancellation of an earlier award to the group prompted an outcry over political interference. At the time, conspiracy theories were emerging that suggested that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was either accidentally or deliberately released from the lab in Wuhan. There is no proof to support the theories, but the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff confirmed in April that U.S. intelligence was investigating the claims. And at a news conference that month, President Trump, when asked about the EcoHealth grant, pledged to “end that grant very quickly

     

    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn't know, just like they didn't know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months. Aren't you asking us to believe just a little too much about the doubling-down stupidities of a US Deep State capable of the technical achievement inherent in creating such a bioweapon the first place?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months.

    As I’ve emphasized, it was very likely a rogue operation by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump, probably involving relatively few people. They obviously screwed up big time, but since the previous SARS and MERS epidemics had left America entirely unscathed, their assumptions weren’t so totally implausible.

    There only seem to be three posibilities:

    (1) A natural viral outbreak. Maybe, but seems unlikely to me, and Wade’s article weakens it further.

    (2) A Wuhan Lab Leak. Despite a full year of Trump/Pompeo promises, absolutely ZERO evidence as of now, except that Wuhan had a virus lab.

    (3) An American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). A great deal of circumstantial evidence and more-than-circumstantial evidence. That’s exactly the reason that nobody in the MSM dares even raise the possibility. Anyone who bothered looking at the facts would quickly see that this is by far the most likely scenario.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    • Replies: @loren
    @Ron Unz

    CDC death rates 2015-2020, check them.
    there has been no pandemic, as judged by yearly total deaths.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Brás Cubas
    @Ron Unz

    I agree that there are several suspicious elements that point to a bioattack, and that it would necessarily have been perpetrated by a non-Chinese actor, unless the Chinese have become truly insane and started attacking their own people, which I think is beyond most anyone's capability of admitting. (Or unless the bioattack occurred somewhere outside of China, if people who claim the virus appeared first outside China are correct.)

    The factor which strengthens the competing theory of the lab leak is that the means of producing the virus are clearly accounted for, whereas in the bioattack case it is only vaguely accounted for.

    Furthermore, there is only very weak evidence pointing specifically to the U.S. as the author of the attack. Most elements of the theory work perfectly well with any rogue element in any country (except China, probably, though we are talking here of rogue elements, and thus the madness elements is less automatically excluded than in the case of a State agent).

    I think these considerations also successfully account for China's lack of military response, which is Sean's main argument against the bioattack theory. If it could have been anyone, they have no target to which to respond.

    , @Sam Malone
    @Ron Unz

    I'm glad you're thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense. Surely if we could hit China in such a way, despite it being one of the most homogenous and rigidly and efficiently closed and surveilled countries on earth, than they could retaliate by similarly hitting us far, far more easily, America being one of the most open, fluid and heterogeneous societies in the world.

    And surely it would be wise for any would-be plotters to assume that the Chinese, being an intelligent, observant and methodical people, would sooner or later realize that the outbreak had been artificially introduced and plausibly surmise that the U.S. was responsible, thus guaranteeing some sort of serious if not catastrophic retaliation.

    In other words, why would we (or rather, some very small group of American operatives or officials) take the huge risk of initiating unprovoked such a devastating and unnecessary (and categorically illegal and utterly immoral) biological attack on the civilian population of the one of the most powerful and ferocious nations on earth? I think the U.S. deep state is capable of and culpable for a lot of evil, but I just don't see this crime as one they would likely contemplate.

    Now, if the outbreak had mysteriously occurred in Russia...but it didn't.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

  303. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M
    1990: 30M
    2020: 45M
    2050(projection): 59M

    The Black population is skyrocketing.

    Given the coming dual crises of mass automation-driven joblessness and a catastrophic debt apocalypse, how will America accommodate nearly 60 million Blacks?

    Even with plentiful jobs and lots of social spending, we can barely keep 45 million Blacks satisfied. If many of those jobs disappear (due to automation) and social spending is simultaneously cut (due to a debt crisis), then what happens? If the number of Blacks increases by 15 million, isn't that a lot more gasoline on the already volatile fire?

    This country is in for turbulent times ahead.

    Replies: @Travis, @Anonymous, @The Alarmist, @Shango, @kaganovitch, @loren

    USA imports them, into the millions since (((1965))).
    The Black population is actually growing very quickly. However, that growth is being diluted by the even quicker growth race of the immigrant population.

    Black population by year

    1960: 19M..I read 12-15 million in 1965.

  304. @Ron Unz
    @Sean


    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months.
     
    As I've emphasized, it was very likely a rogue operation by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump, probably involving relatively few people. They obviously screwed up big time, but since the previous SARS and MERS epidemics had left America entirely unscathed, their assumptions weren't so totally implausible.

    There only seem to be three posibilities:

    (1) A natural viral outbreak. Maybe, but seems unlikely to me, and Wade's article weakens it further.

    (2) A Wuhan Lab Leak. Despite a full year of Trump/Pompeo promises, absolutely ZERO evidence as of now, except that Wuhan had a virus lab.

    (3) An American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). A great deal of circumstantial evidence and more-than-circumstantial evidence. That's exactly the reason that nobody in the MSM dares even raise the possibility. Anyone who bothered looking at the facts would quickly see that this is by far the most likely scenario.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    Replies: @loren, @Brás Cubas, @Sam Malone

    CDC death rates 2015-2020, check them.
    there has been no pandemic, as judged by yearly total deaths.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @loren

    Nah, here's the CDC's graph of weekly excess deaths:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

  305. @loren
    @Ron Unz

    CDC death rates 2015-2020, check them.
    there has been no pandemic, as judged by yearly total deaths.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Nah, here’s the CDC’s graph of weekly excess deaths:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

  306. Sean says:
    @Ron Unz
    @vhrm


    Thus it is not hard to believe that DIA would pick up some signal of a spreading respiratory virus before the Chinese government did.
     
    You're making a fool of yourself. In Jan and Feb, America was totally incompetent at detecting the spread of a *known* virus in its own country whose genetic profile had already been published by the Chinese allowing detection kits. However, you're claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence. As I noted in my long article:

    According to these multiply-sourced mainstream media accounts, by “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency was already preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms. The implications are rather obvious.
     
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#the-smoking-gun

    Replies: @Sean

    However, you’re claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence

    We are still in the dark about what the exact course of the early epidemic and what China knew and when, and what we do think we know was is based on accounts of few social media poss that have since been wiped. There are probably some surveillance capabilities that the DIA have which are not understood outside the intelligence community or the agency itself; such information is closely guarded as a source of power. Moreover, there was an obvious candidate for an intel conduit of information from China to DIA through Daszak’s involvement with the Wuhan lab on US government funded gain of function research. I can think of many ways that the DIA could have leveraged this international collaboration into knowledge of what was happening in Wuhan. So someone at the DIA could have perfectly legitimately had a bit more information than you think and also made an inspired guess, which became embarrassing and was suppressed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daszak Starting in 2014, Daszak was project lead of the six NIH projects no. 2R01AI110964-01 to 2R01AI110964-06 [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] which focused on the emergence of novel zoonotic coronaviruses (CoV) with bat-origin. Among the aims of the project was to characterize as well “the diversity and distribution of high spillover-risk SARSr-CoVs in bats in southern China” as the “SARSr-CoV spillover risk” by using “S protein sequence data, infectious clone technology, in vitro and in vivo infection experiments and analysis of receptor binding […]”. Some of the project’s work was performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), and parts of this research are considered gain-of-function studies.[12] The six projects received a total funding of $3,748,715 from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).[11]

    So interested parties in US intel (which the DIA is part of) would have more ways of finding out about or at least surmising the existence of any novel disease incipient emergency in Wuhan than having started it themselves, or heard about it around the water cooler from some member of your putative rogue group doing the bidding of Neocons.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sean

    Didn't a Taiwanese bureaucrat figure it out in late December 2019 from what he was reading on the mainland Chinese version of 4Chan?

  307. @Sean
    @Ron Unz


    However, you’re claiming that America was also so amazingly competent it had previously detected and discovered the very early spread of an *unknown* and unsuspected virus in Wuhan, where America had virtually no presence
     
    We are still in the dark about what the exact course of the early epidemic and what China knew and when, and what we do think we know was is based on accounts of few social media poss that have since been wiped. There are probably some surveillance capabilities that the DIA have which are not understood outside the intelligence community or the agency itself; such information is closely guarded as a source of power. Moreover, there was an obvious candidate for an intel conduit of information from China to DIA through Daszak's involvement with the Wuhan lab on US government funded gain of function research. I can think of many ways that the DIA could have leveraged this international collaboration into knowledge of what was happening in Wuhan. So someone at the DIA could have perfectly legitimately had a bit more information than you think and also made an inspired guess, which became embarrassing and was suppressed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daszak Starting in 2014, Daszak was project lead of the six NIH projects no. 2R01AI110964-01 to 2R01AI110964-06 [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] which focused on the emergence of novel zoonotic coronaviruses (CoV) with bat-origin. Among the aims of the project was to characterize as well "the diversity and distribution of high spillover-risk SARSr-CoVs in bats in southern China" as the "SARSr-CoV spillover risk" by using "S protein sequence data, infectious clone technology, in vitro and in vivo infection experiments and analysis of receptor binding […]". Some of the project's work was performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), and parts of this research are considered gain-of-function studies.[12] The six projects received a total funding of $3,748,715 from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).[11]
     
    So interested parties in US intel (which the DIA is part of) would have more ways of finding out about or at least surmising the existence of any novel disease incipient emergency in Wuhan than having started it themselves, or heard about it around the water cooler from some member of your putative rogue group doing the bidding of Neocons.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Didn’t a Taiwanese bureaucrat figure it out in late December 2019 from what he was reading on the mainland Chinese version of 4Chan?

  308. @Ron Unz
    @Sean


    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months.
     
    As I've emphasized, it was very likely a rogue operation by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump, probably involving relatively few people. They obviously screwed up big time, but since the previous SARS and MERS epidemics had left America entirely unscathed, their assumptions weren't so totally implausible.

    There only seem to be three posibilities:

    (1) A natural viral outbreak. Maybe, but seems unlikely to me, and Wade's article weakens it further.

    (2) A Wuhan Lab Leak. Despite a full year of Trump/Pompeo promises, absolutely ZERO evidence as of now, except that Wuhan had a virus lab.

    (3) An American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). A great deal of circumstantial evidence and more-than-circumstantial evidence. That's exactly the reason that nobody in the MSM dares even raise the possibility. Anyone who bothered looking at the facts would quickly see that this is by far the most likely scenario.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    Replies: @loren, @Brás Cubas, @Sam Malone

    I agree that there are several suspicious elements that point to a bioattack, and that it would necessarily have been perpetrated by a non-Chinese actor, unless the Chinese have become truly insane and started attacking their own people, which I think is beyond most anyone’s capability of admitting. (Or unless the bioattack occurred somewhere outside of China, if people who claim the virus appeared first outside China are correct.)

    The factor which strengthens the competing theory of the lab leak is that the means of producing the virus are clearly accounted for, whereas in the bioattack case it is only vaguely accounted for.

    Furthermore, there is only very weak evidence pointing specifically to the U.S. as the author of the attack. Most elements of the theory work perfectly well with any rogue element in any country (except China, probably, though we are talking here of rogue elements, and thus the madness elements is less automatically excluded than in the case of a State agent).

    I think these considerations also successfully account for China’s lack of military response, which is Sean’s main argument against the bioattack theory. If it could have been anyone, they have no target to which to respond.

  309. @Sam Malone

    In truth, the reason that the lies have mounted to such a fevered pitch in recent years is that nobody really believes anymore, as we begin the third full generation after civil rights, that blacks have what it takes to reach statistical equality in economic productivity with whites, much less with Asians or Jews, or even with Mexicans.
     
    This is the key point. And it's a game changer, because as John Derbyshire once mentioned, most whites in the 1960s genuinely believed that blacks could eventually perform to near white standards with enough goodwill and sufficient catch-up help. No one, no one, can actually believe this anymore. We turned our world on its head for these people and got just about nothing in the way of results or gratitude for it.

    That underlying knowledge must be influencing a lot of the dynamics going on now. Any lingering innocence is gone, and as we get farther away from the civil rights revolution of circa 1965 and black achievement stagnates or reverses, the hand-waving motions required to distract from the obvious logic must become ever more frantic. Our 'state religion' is built on a house of cards, so intellectually weak it increasingly needs police powers to sustain it.

    Replies: @anon, @vhrm, @Redman, @Travis

    Whites have become a minority at our Universities and schools. This is a significant development which began a few years ago at the start of the Great Awakening.

    https://twitter.com/JDKnox4/status/1390675878028398599?s=20

    Another aspect to the acceptance of group differences is that Whites realize they will need affirmative action in the near future to maintain representation at our schools and institutions and corporations. Currently Whites are not protected with racial quotas and this is a big reason Whites are under-represented at our top Universities and the top tech firms.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Travis

    They aren’t ours.

  310. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Third, important news that almost nobody has noticed is that, after black fertility soared during the early crack years, it has fallen below replacement level. Unless America botches up its policy on immigration from Africa, we won’t again face the rapidly growing black population that so stressed our cities in the decades after World War II."

    It has been stated that nearly a full third of all total annual abortions performed in clinics are done on black women. So in addition to falling birthrates, blacks also get a fairly high number of abortions per year.

    While it can be argued that Freakonomics Steven Levitt's thesis, that abortions performed in the '70's and '80's helped to reduce the crime rate during the late '90's and '00's, falling birthrates, coupled with abortions, should indeed help to reduce the overall crime rate over the next coming decades. In this sense, Levitt's thesis will be proven correct (at least in part), as fewer bodies born means fewer crimes will be committed.

    Replies: @TWS

    Sailer already debunked this with logic, statistics, history and everything. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good theory.

  311. TWS says:
    @Whiskey
    Steve, your suggestions are socially, culturally, economically, and politically impossible.

    Since 1950 or so, America has replaced Christ and Christianity with worship of black people. This has been very convenient, as it lets the few true Alpha chads sleep around, and women sleep around in general, while penalizing White beta males as innately evil.

    And at the same time, the Devil has been defined as the White beta male. The essence of evil in everything. Convenient for White women, a few Alpha male White men, and of course non Whites everywhere.

    What is happening is easy to see. Since White people and White men in particular bear a blood guilt, that cannot be washed away, and are the essence of evil, a solution final and total must be found. Biden as in much has pointed the way -- every Trump voter is now a domestic terrorist and White supremacist. Well, you know what happens with those guys don't you?

    Can you say Chinese style labor camps? Per Mr. Rogers, I knew you could.

    Taking most everything White people have, giving some of it to blacks and most to major corporations, while putting most White people in forced labor camps is a win-win-win. Black people win because they get some stuff and get to see their enemies, those they hate the most, suffer. The ruling families win because they eliminate the White middle class threat to their oligarchic rule. Corporations win because they get the one thing they prize most: cheap high IQ labor.

    Since Sargon of Akkad (the real ruler not online personality) the path to riches has been to enslave high IQ peoples and use them as forced labor. To build and maintain irrigation networks in Ancient Mesopotamia. In the vast slave plantations of Classical Rome. In the serfdom of Medieval Europe, and the glories of Al Andulucia and Baghdad, both of which ran on high IQ European slaves sold by Vikings. Both declined radically when the slave population dried up with the end of the Viking Era.

    Corporate profits depended upon cheap mostly forced Chinese labor. Increasing prosperity and aging demographics make that impossible going forward. However forced labor camps certainly can keep that going for another ten years or so.

    Impossible, you say? Nothing is impossible when worship of black people as sacred holy redeemers is the official Oligarchs religion (and one which they really do believe like Melinda Gates*) and White men are the official blood guilt of evil which must be eradicated. That's the plan anyway and hence gun control/seizure, 24/7 black black black black stuff in the media, including black Superman and black Captain America and all that. Plus more black black black black.

    *Melinda Gates is according the to the FT the one behind all the gay, black, anti-White stuff, but I repeat myself, in the Gates Foundation. Bill wants basic science research with metrics and deliverables. She wants raging against White men. More proof if any needed now that White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta White male. Of which Bill is Exhibit A.

    Replies: @TWS, @Clyde

    Come on man! You were doing so well staying away from Tiny Duck ‘white women worship black Johnson’ territory. Now you have fallen back into that tar pit and are getting goopy again.

    This is not a good look for you. Let TD cover the funny black pill stuff. You can tell he’s joking. With you it looks like a weird fetish.

  312. @Anonymous Jew
    @TWS

    Garfield High School - attended by Jimmy Hendrix before he dropped out and located in the Central District (the “CD”), Seattle’s historically Black neighborhood. The CD was about 75% Black in the early 90’s but has now been gentrified down to about 20%. (Interestingly, it started out as a Jewish neighborhood at the turn of the century).

    There are now a dozen Ezell’s all over the Seattle area, including one a short walk from our house in our 2% Black ‘Whiteopia’. Oh, how times have changed. It’s not the same waiting in line with all the 40-something White soccer moms, but the chicken is just as good.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @TWS

    My daughter used to play tournaments there. Rats everywhere in the school. I preferred the Ezelles in the U district. Better sweet potato pie. Now there’s one between Lynnwood and Edmonds. I used to train TKD right by the old Lynn Twin just down the highway.

  313. @Ron Unz
    @Sean


    The US was to0 connected to the Wuhan lab for it to be used as a cover story. Are we expected to believe the CIA / Deep State didn’t know, just like they didn’t know their bioweapon would infect the US and substantially close it down for months.
     
    As I've emphasized, it was very likely a rogue operation by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump, probably involving relatively few people. They obviously screwed up big time, but since the previous SARS and MERS epidemics had left America entirely unscathed, their assumptions weren't so totally implausible.

    There only seem to be three posibilities:

    (1) A natural viral outbreak. Maybe, but seems unlikely to me, and Wade's article weakens it further.

    (2) A Wuhan Lab Leak. Despite a full year of Trump/Pompeo promises, absolutely ZERO evidence as of now, except that Wuhan had a virus lab.

    (3) An American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). A great deal of circumstantial evidence and more-than-circumstantial evidence. That's exactly the reason that nobody in the MSM dares even raise the possibility. Anyone who bothered looking at the facts would quickly see that this is by far the most likely scenario.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    Replies: @loren, @Brás Cubas, @Sam Malone

    I’m glad you’re thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense. Surely if we could hit China in such a way, despite it being one of the most homogenous and rigidly and efficiently closed and surveilled countries on earth, than they could retaliate by similarly hitting us far, far more easily, America being one of the most open, fluid and heterogeneous societies in the world.

    And surely it would be wise for any would-be plotters to assume that the Chinese, being an intelligent, observant and methodical people, would sooner or later realize that the outbreak had been artificially introduced and plausibly surmise that the U.S. was responsible, thus guaranteeing some sort of serious if not catastrophic retaliation.

    In other words, why would we (or rather, some very small group of American operatives or officials) take the huge risk of initiating unprovoked such a devastating and unnecessary (and categorically illegal and utterly immoral) biological attack on the civilian population of the one of the most powerful and ferocious nations on earth? I think the U.S. deep state is capable of and culpable for a lot of evil, but I just don’t see this crime as one they would likely contemplate.

    Now, if the outbreak had mysteriously occurred in Russia…but it didn’t.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Sam Malone


    I’m glad you’re thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense.
     
    Although this is my website, it's clear that only a limited fraction of the visitors here bother reading my own articles, even if these have been among the most popular published here during the last twelve months. The evidence I provided was strong, perhaps even overwhelming. Just read what I've written and you'll see:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    And it would have been entirely illogical for the Chinese to retaliate militarily since they obviously didn't have solid proof. Anyway, China came through fine, while our own totally incompetent country is now rapidly approaching a million deaths. Isn't a million dead Americans and the wreckage of our society punishment enough for what was obviously a rogue Deep State operation unauthorized by Trump?

    Replies: @Sam Malone

  314. @Steve Sailer
    @Clyde

    We are 18/25ths of the way to not needing anymore affirmative action.

    Replies: @res

    But as we all know, it’s going to be like the 80:20 rule on steroids. That last 1/25 will take 24/25 of the true time.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @res

    We know nothing.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision. If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.

    https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1391658051497709571?s=20

    Replies: @res

  315. @jilla
    What's crazy is that no one talks about the equity that was destroyed by the great black migration. The homes of my grandparents on both my mother and father's side were almost worthless because of the destruction caused by the neighborhoods turning black. My grandmother's home was sold in the 1990's for close to the same price that it was purchased for in the 1940's.

    I haven't yet heard a good answer from the left that explains how formerly high value neighborhoods saw a tremendous decline in value when blacks moved in. Then, they become gentrified and the values go up again. When asking left leaning people from that period, they make some vague comment about the real estate industry.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    My Great Grandfather bought his home in Philadelphia in 1920…the area was later redlined…when he passed away in 1960 the building was sold for less than he paid for it 40 years earlier , as the neighborhood went from 99% white to 10% white during this time.

    In Philly the redlined areas were mostly white, they became mostly black after they were redlined.

    • Thanks: vhrm
  316. @Jack D
    @indocon

    The whole "black people/ slaves built America" thing relates to blacks' tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.

    Even in places where blacks or slaves formed a substantial part of the workforce (e.g. in the pre-Civil War construction of Washington, DC), blacks were mainly used as fungible unskilled labor and the important, high value work and supervision was done by skilled artisans who were mostly white. If you have ever been on a construction site and seen, for example, a mason doing his work, the mason is the one who is actually laying the brick and his helpers will be mostly doing the schlepping - bringing materials up onto the scaffold, mixing up mortar, etc. The same thing for the plumbers, the carpenters, etc. etc. - every aspect of the work has a skilled component (not to mention the architects and engineers who design the thing) that requires relatively high IQ individuals to supervise and a grunt labor component that does not. The labor component is more or less fungible - anyone with a strong back will do - blacks, Irish fresh off the boat, whomever. Here's your shovel and start digging. Of course the ditch diggers could never build anything more complex than a ditch by themselves (and even a ditch has to be built to the right depth in the right location) let alone a magnificent structure such as the US Capitol. Guess which role the blacks played?

    Replies: @Charon, @iDeplorable

    The whole “black people/ slaves built America” thing relates to blacks’ tendency to vastly overestimate their competence.

    Robert E. Lee (similar to Jefferson) had moral qualms about slavery but (similar to Jefferson with his “we have a tiger by the tail, we can neither hold on nor let go”…or something along those lines) faced the question of: what do you do with them? Turning loose an illiterate whose only skill was picking plants would see him either starve to death or become a roving criminal (and be quickly killed – roving unsupervised negroes were seriously frowned upon in 18th and 19th century Virginia). Its not as if there was welfare in those days. It would have been cruel.

    Lee would periodically skilled ones who could possibly support themselves (e.g. a blacksmith). Today of course we’ve solved this “what do you with them?” via our policy of paying them to breed and commit crimes.

  317. @Sam Malone
    @Ron Unz

    I'm glad you're thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense. Surely if we could hit China in such a way, despite it being one of the most homogenous and rigidly and efficiently closed and surveilled countries on earth, than they could retaliate by similarly hitting us far, far more easily, America being one of the most open, fluid and heterogeneous societies in the world.

    And surely it would be wise for any would-be plotters to assume that the Chinese, being an intelligent, observant and methodical people, would sooner or later realize that the outbreak had been artificially introduced and plausibly surmise that the U.S. was responsible, thus guaranteeing some sort of serious if not catastrophic retaliation.

    In other words, why would we (or rather, some very small group of American operatives or officials) take the huge risk of initiating unprovoked such a devastating and unnecessary (and categorically illegal and utterly immoral) biological attack on the civilian population of the one of the most powerful and ferocious nations on earth? I think the U.S. deep state is capable of and culpable for a lot of evil, but I just don't see this crime as one they would likely contemplate.

    Now, if the outbreak had mysteriously occurred in Russia...but it didn't.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    I’m glad you’re thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense.

    Although this is my website, it’s clear that only a limited fraction of the visitors here bother reading my own articles, even if these have been among the most popular published here during the last twelve months. The evidence I provided was strong, perhaps even overwhelming. Just read what I’ve written and you’ll see:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    And it would have been entirely illogical for the Chinese to retaliate militarily since they obviously didn’t have solid proof. Anyway, China came through fine, while our own totally incompetent country is now rapidly approaching a million deaths. Isn’t a million dead Americans and the wreckage of our society punishment enough for what was obviously a rogue Deep State operation unauthorized by Trump?

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @Ron Unz

    Yes, I should have delved into the case you provided first. I will now.

    And thank you again for providing us all with this wonderful website.

  318. Clyde says:
    @Whiskey
    Steve, your suggestions are socially, culturally, economically, and politically impossible.

    Since 1950 or so, America has replaced Christ and Christianity with worship of black people. This has been very convenient, as it lets the few true Alpha chads sleep around, and women sleep around in general, while penalizing White beta males as innately evil.

    And at the same time, the Devil has been defined as the White beta male. The essence of evil in everything. Convenient for White women, a few Alpha male White men, and of course non Whites everywhere.

    What is happening is easy to see. Since White people and White men in particular bear a blood guilt, that cannot be washed away, and are the essence of evil, a solution final and total must be found. Biden as in much has pointed the way -- every Trump voter is now a domestic terrorist and White supremacist. Well, you know what happens with those guys don't you?

    Can you say Chinese style labor camps? Per Mr. Rogers, I knew you could.

    Taking most everything White people have, giving some of it to blacks and most to major corporations, while putting most White people in forced labor camps is a win-win-win. Black people win because they get some stuff and get to see their enemies, those they hate the most, suffer. The ruling families win because they eliminate the White middle class threat to their oligarchic rule. Corporations win because they get the one thing they prize most: cheap high IQ labor.

    Since Sargon of Akkad (the real ruler not online personality) the path to riches has been to enslave high IQ peoples and use them as forced labor. To build and maintain irrigation networks in Ancient Mesopotamia. In the vast slave plantations of Classical Rome. In the serfdom of Medieval Europe, and the glories of Al Andulucia and Baghdad, both of which ran on high IQ European slaves sold by Vikings. Both declined radically when the slave population dried up with the end of the Viking Era.

    Corporate profits depended upon cheap mostly forced Chinese labor. Increasing prosperity and aging demographics make that impossible going forward. However forced labor camps certainly can keep that going for another ten years or so.

    Impossible, you say? Nothing is impossible when worship of black people as sacred holy redeemers is the official Oligarchs religion (and one which they really do believe like Melinda Gates*) and White men are the official blood guilt of evil which must be eradicated. That's the plan anyway and hence gun control/seizure, 24/7 black black black black stuff in the media, including black Superman and black Captain America and all that. Plus more black black black black.

    *Melinda Gates is according the to the FT the one behind all the gay, black, anti-White stuff, but I repeat myself, in the Gates Foundation. Bill wants basic science research with metrics and deliverables. She wants raging against White men. More proof if any needed now that White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta White male. Of which Bill is Exhibit A.

    Replies: @TWS, @Clyde

    *Melinda Gates is according the to the FT the one behind all the gay, black, anti-White stuff, but I repeat myself, in the Gates Foundation. Bill wants basic science research with metrics and deliverables. She wants raging against White men. More proof if any needed now that White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta White male. Of which Bill is Exhibit A.

    And is why she is warring to extract maximum billions from Bill (via divorce) to set up her own crazed lefty foundation. Get back to me in two-three years because I have predicted this! Without her high powered divorce lawyers Malinda is nothing. With them, she might take all Bill’s Microsoft billions. Rob this poor “on the autism spectrum” sap blind.

  319. @Ron Unz
    @Sam Malone


    I’m glad you’re thinking outside of the box about Covid possibly originating as a U.S. bio-attack on China, but I wonder if it really makes sense.
     
    Although this is my website, it's clear that only a limited fraction of the visitors here bother reading my own articles, even if these have been among the most popular published here during the last twelve months. The evidence I provided was strong, perhaps even overwhelming. Just read what I've written and you'll see:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#considering-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    And it would have been entirely illogical for the Chinese to retaliate militarily since they obviously didn't have solid proof. Anyway, China came through fine, while our own totally incompetent country is now rapidly approaching a million deaths. Isn't a million dead Americans and the wreckage of our society punishment enough for what was obviously a rogue Deep State operation unauthorized by Trump?

    Replies: @Sam Malone

    Yes, I should have delved into the case you provided first. I will now.

    And thank you again for providing us all with this wonderful website.

  320. @Travis
    @Sam Malone

    Whites have become a minority at our Universities and schools. This is a significant development which began a few years ago at the start of the Great Awakening.

    https://twitter.com/JDKnox4/status/1390675878028398599?s=20

    Another aspect to the acceptance of group differences is that Whites realize they will need affirmative action in the near future to maintain representation at our schools and institutions and corporations. Currently Whites are not protected with racial quotas and this is a big reason Whites are under-represented at our top Universities and the top tech firms.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    They aren’t ours.

  321. @res
    @Steve Sailer

    But as we all know, it's going to be like the 80:20 rule on steroids. That last 1/25 will take 24/25 of the true time.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    We know nothing.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision. If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.

    • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius


    We know nothing.
     
    If you can't see the kernel of truth in my joke then you are as oblivious as you so frequently accuse the rest of us as being. Of course we can't know, but you are smart enough to see that "But as we all know" is often the lead-in to a joke. Admittedly, it works better in person when you can give a smile after that and before the rest.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision.
     
    I think the "white women get the most benefit from AA" argument is seldom made convincingly. The problem is (have you ever seen an argument that addresses this? I haven't) there is no accounting for the size of the benefit per person. Which is of course much harder to quantify than the number of people involved.

    For an example, consider college admissions and the relative SAT score benefits conferred by AA. For Harvard admissions, blacks get a benefit of about 200 SAT points (about 1 SD) compared to whites. Men and women score similarly on the SAT (varies depending on whether 1600 or 2400 version, tilt matters more) so by this metric women aren't getting much benefit from AA (do you care to make an estimate?).

    Probably better to focus on something like STEM representation. This blog post and comments have useful discussion about this (e.g. Cohen's d as a metric) in the context of l'affaire Damore at Google in 2017.
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/google-sex/

    If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.
     
    That is an interesting thought. I don't think race based AA would disappear in that case, but it would definitely change the overall AA landscape. Also worth considering how more women staying at home raising their children would increase the representational disparities so might have the opposite effect as you (probably, I am guessing, but feel free to expand on your meaning rather than being your usual oracular self) envision.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  322. res says:
    @Desiderius
    @res

    We know nothing.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision. If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.

    https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1391658051497709571?s=20

    Replies: @res

    We know nothing.

    If you can’t see the kernel of truth in my joke then you are as oblivious as you so frequently accuse the rest of us as being. Of course we can’t know, but you are smart enough to see that “But as we all know” is often the lead-in to a joke. Admittedly, it works better in person when you can give a smile after that and before the rest.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision.

    I think the “white women get the most benefit from AA” argument is seldom made convincingly. The problem is (have you ever seen an argument that addresses this? I haven’t) there is no accounting for the size of the benefit per person. Which is of course much harder to quantify than the number of people involved.

    For an example, consider college admissions and the relative SAT score benefits conferred by AA. For Harvard admissions, blacks get a benefit of about 200 SAT points (about 1 SD) compared to whites. Men and women score similarly on the SAT (varies depending on whether 1600 or 2400 version, tilt matters more) so by this metric women aren’t getting much benefit from AA (do you care to make an estimate?).

    Probably better to focus on something like STEM representation. This blog post and comments have useful discussion about this (e.g. Cohen’s d as a metric) in the context of l’affaire Damore at Google in 2017.
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/google-sex/

    If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.

    That is an interesting thought. I don’t think race based AA would disappear in that case, but it would definitely change the overall AA landscape. Also worth considering how more women staying at home raising their children would increase the representational disparities so might have the opposite effect as you (probably, I am guessing, but feel free to expand on your meaning rather than being your usual oracular self) envision.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @res

    Of course I see it. I'm firmly rejecting it. The future is like the past until it isn't.

    As for AWFLs snaking AA I use the Peter Lynch approach. Of the fifteen instances of AA choosing the inferior candidate with which I have personal experience, thirteen went to AWFLs. This phenomenon may go a long way toward explaining why wokelism has been so virulent in that milieu (R-leaning UMC/PMC).

    They may be talking about this very thing without of course directly talking about it, as is their wont - i.e. AWFLs fessing up because they're tired of playing man. If that is the case they'd let non-whites have a shot for a bit to keep up appearances before turning hard against it with a vengeance.

    Replies: @res

  323. @res
    @Desiderius


    We know nothing.
     
    If you can't see the kernel of truth in my joke then you are as oblivious as you so frequently accuse the rest of us as being. Of course we can't know, but you are smart enough to see that "But as we all know" is often the lead-in to a joke. Admittedly, it works better in person when you can give a smile after that and before the rest.

    The principal beneficiaries of AA have been AWFLs like the one who handed down that decision.
     
    I think the "white women get the most benefit from AA" argument is seldom made convincingly. The problem is (have you ever seen an argument that addresses this? I haven't) there is no accounting for the size of the benefit per person. Which is of course much harder to quantify than the number of people involved.

    For an example, consider college admissions and the relative SAT score benefits conferred by AA. For Harvard admissions, blacks get a benefit of about 200 SAT points (about 1 SD) compared to whites. Men and women score similarly on the SAT (varies depending on whether 1600 or 2400 version, tilt matters more) so by this metric women aren't getting much benefit from AA (do you care to make an estimate?).

    Probably better to focus on something like STEM representation. This blog post and comments have useful discussion about this (e.g. Cohen's d as a metric) in the context of l'affaire Damore at Google in 2017.
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/google-sex/

    If they decide they’d rather raise their children all bets are off.
     
    That is an interesting thought. I don't think race based AA would disappear in that case, but it would definitely change the overall AA landscape. Also worth considering how more women staying at home raising their children would increase the representational disparities so might have the opposite effect as you (probably, I am guessing, but feel free to expand on your meaning rather than being your usual oracular self) envision.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Of course I see it. I’m firmly rejecting it. The future is like the past until it isn’t.

    As for AWFLs snaking AA I use the Peter Lynch approach. Of the fifteen instances of AA choosing the inferior candidate with which I have personal experience, thirteen went to AWFLs. This phenomenon may go a long way toward explaining why wokelism has been so virulent in that milieu (R-leaning UMC/PMC).

    They may be talking about this very thing without of course directly talking about it, as is their wont – i.e. AWFLs fessing up because they’re tired of playing man. If that is the case they’d let non-whites have a shot for a bit to keep up appearances before turning hard against it with a vengeance.

    • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius


    Of course I see it. I’m firmly rejecting it. The future is like the past until it isn’t.
     
    Not sure what you mean here. If it is truth (a high probability kernel of it anyway), then rejecting it seems silly (putting your head in the sand). If you mean something more like there are possible alternatives and we should not give up, then fair enough.

    As for AWFLs snaking AA I use the Peter Lynch approach. Of the fifteen instances of AA choosing the inferior candidate with which I have personal experience, thirteen went to AWFLs. This phenomenon may go a long way toward explaining why wokelism has been so virulent in that milieu (R-leaning UMC/PMC).
     
    That approach is reasonable (though one's own situation should be checked for representativeness, is there anything special about your milieu which would affect the balance of race/sex based AA?). Your conclusion makes sense. Does that mean strident feminism is a gateway drug to other forms of wokeism?

    Thinking about the overall AA issue some more, would you agree with the speculation that sex-based AA causes more injustice to individuals while race-based AA causes more organizational ability (not cultural though) dysfunction? Trying to think of a good way to capture the effects of my numbers/gaps differing observation.

    They may be talking about this very thing without of course directly talking about it, as is their wont – i.e. AWFLs fessing up because they’re tired of playing man. If that is the case they’d let non-whites have a shot for a bit to keep up appearances before turning hard against it with a vengeance.
     
    It seems to me like the tired of playing man idea would need to go along with another reason, say concern about how their sons are being (or will be) shafted by AA.

    I really wonder how that might play out. The two effects I see complicating things are the range of different opinions (how many hard core wokeists are needed to keep things that way?) and the tendency towards groupthink in that group. I do think you are onto something in that there could be a phase change here.

    P.S. Why do you use "wokelism" rather than the more comment "wokeism"? Not being snarky, I assume you have a good reason.
  324. res says:
    @Desiderius
    @res

    Of course I see it. I'm firmly rejecting it. The future is like the past until it isn't.

    As for AWFLs snaking AA I use the Peter Lynch approach. Of the fifteen instances of AA choosing the inferior candidate with which I have personal experience, thirteen went to AWFLs. This phenomenon may go a long way toward explaining why wokelism has been so virulent in that milieu (R-leaning UMC/PMC).

    They may be talking about this very thing without of course directly talking about it, as is their wont - i.e. AWFLs fessing up because they're tired of playing man. If that is the case they'd let non-whites have a shot for a bit to keep up appearances before turning hard against it with a vengeance.

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    Of course I see it. I’m firmly rejecting it. The future is like the past until it isn’t.

    Not sure what you mean here. If it is truth (a high probability kernel of it anyway), then rejecting it seems silly (putting your head in the sand). If you mean something more like there are possible alternatives and we should not give up, then fair enough.

    As for AWFLs snaking AA I use the Peter Lynch approach. Of the fifteen instances of AA choosing the inferior candidate with which I have personal experience, thirteen went to AWFLs. This phenomenon may go a long way toward explaining why wokelism has been so virulent in that milieu (R-leaning UMC/PMC).

    That approach is reasonable (though one’s own situation should be checked for representativeness, is there anything special about your milieu which would affect the balance of race/sex based AA?). Your conclusion makes sense. Does that mean strident feminism is a gateway drug to other forms of wokeism?

    Thinking about the overall AA issue some more, would you agree with the speculation that sex-based AA causes more injustice to individuals while race-based AA causes more organizational ability (not cultural though) dysfunction? Trying to think of a good way to capture the effects of my numbers/gaps differing observation.

    They may be talking about this very thing without of course directly talking about it, as is their wont – i.e. AWFLs fessing up because they’re tired of playing man. If that is the case they’d let non-whites have a shot for a bit to keep up appearances before turning hard against it with a vengeance.

    It seems to me like the tired of playing man idea would need to go along with another reason, say concern about how their sons are being (or will be) shafted by AA.

    I really wonder how that might play out. The two effects I see complicating things are the range of different opinions (how many hard core wokeists are needed to keep things that way?) and the tendency towards groupthink in that group. I do think you are onto something in that there could be a phase change here.

    P.S. Why do you use “wokelism” rather than the more comment “wokeism”? Not being snarky, I assume you have a good reason.

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