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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Riots? What Riots?

In my three decades as a media critic, this summer’s huge effort by the press to cover up the endless rioting by George Floyd’s mourners has been its most shameless and shameful episode yet.

Until very recently, a remarkable number of naive Americans had fallen for the mainstream media’s repetitions that the Peaceful Protesters were not—repeat, not—looting and burning. The MSM has been in such flat-out denial mode that it hasn’t even bothered to concoct exculpatory euphemisms for the riots, such as Retail Mourning, Do-It-Yourself Reparations, or Arson for Equity.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. Apparently there aren’t too many GoodWhites in your social circle. Here, I have some I can definitely spare. They’ll patiently explain to you that all (not most, but all) of the real violence at these ‘demonstrations’ and ‘protests’ comes from white-supremacist interlopers who need putting down, in more than one sense of the phrase.

    They’re counting the days until November 3rd, when all of this finally gets turned around for good.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    They’re counting the days until November 3rd, when all of this finally gets turned around for good.
     
    I doubt it. I think so many Boomer Neoliberals are so focused on retiring/liquidating their 401k plans before the stocks dive by 50% or more that they’ll play along. If they can keep the stock market propped up just long enough...

    https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3054114-inline-i-3-why-prudential-wants-people-to-literally-run-for-their-retirement.jpg

    As long as blacks and Antifa remember to vote Biden in November, they can have some good old fun in the meantime. They need Biden (or more specifically a Larry Summers type) to keep the rickety old system afloat as long as possible. (Harris can lock them up later.)

    https://youtu.be/_t3ETS_GpXE

    One rarely discussed subject in the MSM is how the 2008 Great Recession negatively effected the establishments of both parties. The Great Recession greatly sped up the economic dysfunction table originally planned by the Boomers. The stuff we are seeing now wasn’t supposed to happen so soon.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  2. There might be a chance, that something like this happens:

    race rioting as a federal civil rights offense

    This – if happening – would be a big surprise:

    Rioting over race should be treated as a hate crime and punished accordingly.

    PS
    Article is brilliant – thanks.

  3. But this reporter refuses to mention the race of the criminals he observed.

    How about mentioning the ethnicity of those who control the media.

    • Agree: bruce county
  4. Good column but I disagree that race rioting should be a Federal “Hate Crime’. There are plenty of other felony statutes people could be charged under. Arson, burglary, aggravated battery etc. that allow judges to mete out multi-year sentences. The need is for prosecutors willing to charge and make examples of those the police catch.

    The police chief of Chicago held a press conference yesterday. He pointed out his officers have taken over 7000 guns off the street so far in 2020. More than 200 seized just over the Labor day weekend. He sadly noted that his officers take significant risks arresting armed gang members ( who have publicly threatened to kill any officers who draw their weapons) but the Chicago’s District Attorney has adopted a ‘catch an release’ policy towards those found to be illegally carrying a firearm.

    It goes without saying that all the anti gun laws in the world will do nothing to end the carnage in cities like Chicago if the District Attorney will not prosecute gang bangers and convicted felons found in possession of a firearm.

    • Agree: Alden
  5. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I read Steve because he is smarter than me. He’s wrong on this one though.

    Race rioting as a federal hate crime would be like every other hate crime statute. It will only be used against groups the establishment hates.

    These types of laws will only be used to prosecute white people who try to advocate as a group for their own self interests. All laws that invoke race will ultimately be used to prevent and punish any form of white solidarity.

  6. Anon[648] • Disclaimer says:

    This piece is really well done. I’d like to see you on Tucker Carlson, but I guess you’re a little too radioactive. We’ll have to be satisfied with the commentariat “appropriating” your ideas.

    I’ve noticed that an alternative to the intellectual dark web has started to appear, people like Taibbi, Sullivan, Herzog, Singal, MacDougald, and Daub, who have started to be ostracized by the media they previously worked for, due to nascient “noticing.” They have monetized with Patreon and podcasting or newsletters. Perhaps they will feel freer to directly quote and interact with you.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anon

    Joe Rogan spoke to some people who said Istevee stuff. He and Matt Taibbi and Jimmy Dore were quite explicit about Joe Biden's state of mind. Eric Weinstein said lately that the NYT is no paper he is willing to take seriously any longer.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Known Fact
    @Anon

    Maybe Steve could appear on Tucker in dark silhouette, with voice distortion. I mean, everyone the left quotes is anonymous ...

  7. OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman – aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity “guy”, Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    • LOL: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @jimmyriddle

    Avery Tompkins isn't even a good trans name -- Google image search turns up mostly attractive bio women with that name. I wonder if it is actually her birth name.

    , @The Alarmist
    @jimmyriddle

    Maybe Sandman can allow Tompkins to corner him and then shout “Rape” to the rafters and see how much the school offers in settlement. Who needs university?

    , @res
    @jimmyriddle

    Any idea why Nick Sandmann chose to go there? Seems like an odd choice.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Clyde
    @jimmyriddle

    What a trans-freak show. This passes for normal in 2020 in a Kentucky university. Kind of amazing how quickly things have changed. The damaged and the mutants have taken over heartland universities. Getting paid well for this too!


    Transylvania University, colloquially known as "Transy", is a private university in Lexington, Kentucky. It was founded in 1780 and was the first university in Kentucky.
     
    , @Frau Katze
    @jimmyriddle

    Nick Sandman is “dangerous.”

    That’s completely ridiculous. Why is the ACLU even involved?

    , @Ragno
    @jimmyriddle


    The first thing you notice about Avery Tompkins is his energy.
     
    https://www.transy.edu/academics/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/02/aTompkins-210.jpg

    Well okay - the SECOND thing, then.

    For a minute I wondered if Sandmann or his parents had thoroughly vetted this school - granted, attending a place called Transylvania U would be tempting, but it's the sort of temptation that could easily be sated by buying a few sweatshirts from a college apparel catalog.

    But there are some realizations that no longer get rubbed in my face 24/7 now that I've attained geezerhood, one of which is, in 2020, every goddamn school has a grossly-overpaid tranny diversity hire on staff - and usually four or five.

    I can still remember the Good Old Days, back when I had the luxury of feeling simultaneously drop-jaw horrified, and blessedly superior, when reading about cultural Chernobyls like the Breivik murders or the Charlie Hebdo massacre. I no longer experience either emotion when contemplating those events. Instead I now check my watch - impatiently.

  8. Shameful if you believe in truth. I’d say it is classic Big Lie, straight from the Adolph Hitler/Josef Göbbels media style-book.

    An hour later—as called for in the Instagram post—caravans of rental cars began exiting the freeway and traveling in rows of three to five towards the Downtown.

    If the police know these are rental cars, you’d think they could fairly easily follow the money. That assumes they actually want to. I suspect the detective teams of the major city PDs have been told to stand down on following the money for things like rental cars and pallets of bricks, while camera footage is used catch a few useful idiots to make it look like justice is being done.

    The whiter, more political vandals who smash the windows of unlootable venues like Starbucks (what are they going to steal: coffee stirrers?)…

    The City Mugs are quite nice … for the god of me I don’t know why Jakarta is one of the smallest, but it seems to be real china … and quite pricey, so they make good leftist trophies.

    In some cities, such as Oakland, there are black radical organizations that riot fairly frequently.

    As Sleepy Creepy Joe would say, Come on Man! A black street party is always a White racist’s riot.

    Moreover, no evidence of Putin’s spetsnaz commandos air-dropping from their base in Murmansk into Minneapolis, Portland, and Kenosha has turned up.

    Actually, it would probably be the guys from Stepnoy in the Rostov Oblast.

    After all these years of Antifa violence in the streets, we still know very little about their makeup because the press hasn’t been interested in reporting on them.

    There’s nothing stopping the FBI or DoJ from holding press conferences, putting out wanted posters, or even creating decks of playing cards. You know they have to have the information. I guess investigating the Trump family and organisation really does require the entirety of the US intel and criminal justice apparatus.

    Are Antifa led by behind-the-scenes masterminds? Perhaps, but their actions don’t seem anywhere near as clever as, say, those of Hong Kong demonstrators. They seem to mostly succeed by having Democratic politicians on their side.

    No pun intended, but these are somebody’s Brownshirts.

    Are Antifa being funded with George Soros’ money? I don’t know. To me, what they are doing doesn’t look all that expensive, especially during a time when government cash is flowing to the unemployed.

    Call it diversification, call it insurance. Somebody paid for the bricks and rental cars, and some of that AntiFA gear is quite pricey.

    So, it’s imprudent to shoot many rioters.

    After the Colour Revolution, they’ll simply be paid off to go home, and those who won’t will disappeared (opioid overdoses make good cover) if they know too much or prosecuted if they are simply street thugs to give a respectable veneer of justice being served.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @The Alarmist

    I guess investigating the Trump family and organisation really does require the entirety of the US intel and criminal justice apparatus.

    There are still enough left over for the crack 15 man noose task force that performed so admirably at Talladega raceway.

    Replies: @bruce county

  9. The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney’s office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider “poaching” away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I’ll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were “vanning” rioters with BORTAC that it’s a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It’s probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it’s starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn’t made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of “subordinate compelling surrender,” in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for… except Portland’s one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    • Agree: Ragno
    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Thomas


    There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.
     
    Probably. One way to do it would be to surround the place when these morons are sleeping and bombard their camp with tear gas and flash bangs. Round them all up and bulldoze their stuff.

    Having said that, if I were a Portland cop, I would be in a donut shop filling out job applications for place like Provo, Utah.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Thomas

    In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn’t made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision.

    That's just revisionism or ass-covering. It was well-known at the time that it was the mayor's decision over the chief's objections.

    , @countenance
    @Thomas

    As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control.

    Republican state Attorneys General taking up the caseloads of Soros-funded county-level DAs. Back in my native St. Louis, and Missouri, that is starting to happen.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Thomas

    Great comment, thanks for posting.

    , @cynthia curran
    @Thomas

    Yeah, the media has stats that state that right wing groups killed more than Antifa. In fact if Willaem Van Sporsen last year did blow up the Ice Facility it would have killed over 1,000 putting the left as a bigger threat than the neo-nazi groups, but Van Sporsen was stopped from killing anyone which makes the left looked better. I know of 3 deaths that Antifa or another left wing group did during the protest. The 2 at Chop/Chase in Seattle and the 1 in Portland. The FBI has a lot of Obama people plus an intelligent report mainly created by democrats blamed the boogaloo. As for Danielson, I don't know if he was even armed. The left said that it was another Jay who praise a guy that killed 2 muslims in Portland 2 years ago, blaming the victim that he was out to killed Antfia or leftist and just got shot. The whole story line about the violent with the protests seems off. For example, a boogaloo member threated a health official which means boogaloo didn't like the mask wearing. Most the rioters were wearing masks or scarves over their faces.

  10. Wha- still no White Riot from The Clash?
    And some groups aren’t above the law, they’re below it. They can’t understand concepts like assault, theft, and murder; they don’t exist in their native habitats.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Redneck farmer

    "still no White Riot from The Clash?"

    As great as that song is, it is proto-Antifa, not pro-White. At the time it was recorded, Britain was still full of actual Britons, and had not yet been (((submerged))) under a mile-deep glacier of brown sludge. So the moral of the song is not pro-white, it is "yeah, we should throw bricks at the establishment too, just like our black friends."

    Musically, and as songwriters, the Clash are as great as ever; but as a political reference, it's like quoting Gladstone or something.

  11. The novelty of the response to the London 2011 riots wasn’t that the cops used cctv to find and arrest perps; it was that the courts then dished out serious sentences (ludicrously so on occasion – eg some kid with no previous got 6 months for stealing a bottle of water). And these sentences were upheld on appeal.

    It showed that the legal establishment can chose to act when their vital interests are threatened. None of the usual passive resistance to government when the looters got uncomforatbly close to the nice parts of town.

    All those cases where foreign rapists and murderers have their deportation quashed by the courts are a political, and not legal issue.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  12. Someone has suggested seizing the bank accounts of BLM and ANTIFA . Don’t RICO laws apply.?Didn’t they do that to the KKK?

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Foreign Expert


    Someone has suggested seizing the bank accounts of BLM and ANTIFA .
     
    Aren't all the big banks and the IRS Woke too?
    , @Kronos
    @Foreign Expert

    (Don’t forget the PATRIOT ACT.)

    I think one major daja vu similarity to 1960s (hippie/anti-war/black) rioting is the inability of the police and DA to crack down on the baddies. The higher ups especially in Portland and Seattle are very hesitant about major pushback against the rioters.

    https://youtu.be/LQIRD57lls8

  13. @Anon
    This piece is really well done. I'd like to see you on Tucker Carlson, but I guess you're a little too radioactive. We'll have to be satisfied with the commentariat "appropriating" your ideas.

    I've noticed that an alternative to the intellectual dark web has started to appear, people like Taibbi, Sullivan, Herzog, Singal, MacDougald, and Daub, who have started to be ostracized by the media they previously worked for, due to nascient "noticing." They have monetized with Patreon and podcasting or newsletters. Perhaps they will feel freer to directly quote and interact with you.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Known Fact

    Joe Rogan spoke to some people who said Istevee stuff. He and Matt Taibbi and Jimmy Dore were quite explicit about Joe Biden’s state of mind. Eric Weinstein said lately that the NYT is no paper he is willing to take seriously any longer.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dieter Kief

    Does anyone take it seriously? I assume it's just a money laundering scheme that doubles as a way for bad people to sadistically dunk on their enemies by appealing to the naked-emperor legitimacy of the NYT. "Wow just wow. Are you seriously implying that the Newspaper of Record might employ incompetent and/or unscrupulous people? I'm literally shaking rn"

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  14. In his attack on White Nationalist, see the article in Ron’s blog Steve, I am going to use capitals here because Unz is such a lug headed dumbass…
    UNZ CLAIMS THERE IS NO RIOTING IN CALIFORNIIA..

    He says this over and over because Calfironia is such a paradise of Cholo slaves working on the lawns of the Tech million and billionaires of Palo Alto..

    He walks out the door and see happy Cholos working for their masters..

    And thus you are fools for making the border and issue… who doesn’t like happy cholos cutting your lawns and tending your weeds.

    What are you talking about riots and looting in the paradise of California Steve? You white racist nationlist are fools..

    Oh right, the Cholos aren’t looting… He responded to me in regard to David Cole’s article about Unzie where Cole pointed out that Hispanics joined in the looting once the BLLM thugs broke the windows, that he sees no evidence cause he looked at the tapes..

    So Steve, what are you talking riots in the peaceful Cholo land of CaliMexico?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: TWS
  15. @Mr McKenna
    Apparently there aren't too many GoodWhites in your social circle. Here, I have some I can definitely spare. They'll patiently explain to you that all (not most, but all) of the real violence at these 'demonstrations' and 'protests' comes from white-supremacist interlopers who need putting down, in more than one sense of the phrase.

    They're counting the days until November 3rd, when all of this finally gets turned around for good.

    Replies: @Kronos

    They’re counting the days until November 3rd, when all of this finally gets turned around for good.

    I doubt it. I think so many Boomer Neoliberals are so focused on retiring/liquidating their 401k plans before the stocks dive by 50% or more that they’ll play along. If they can keep the stock market propped up just long enough…

    As long as blacks and Antifa remember to vote Biden in November, they can have some good old fun in the meantime. They need Biden (or more specifically a Larry Summers type) to keep the rickety old system afloat as long as possible. (Harris can lock them up later.)

    One rarely discussed subject in the MSM is how the 2008 Great Recession negatively effected the establishments of both parties. The Great Recession greatly sped up the economic dysfunction table originally planned by the Boomers. The stuff we are seeing now wasn’t supposed to happen so soon.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Kronos

    I'd be more impressed by your analysis if you had spelled "affected" correctly.

    Replies: @Kronos

  16. “You’re not really criminals . . .”

    This is the best clip I could find, unfortunately. The full scene really captures what the Democrats, generous corporations, and their Allied Media have been pitching to and about Antifa/BLM:

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/0a80c494-14d0-41f4-a232-c3a4234b9489

  17. “An account of a boxing match, written by Bigelow Paine and published in Paine’s 1909 book Captain Bill McDonald: Texas Ranger, became the origin of the Ranger’s motto, “One Riot, One Ranger”.

    The phrase was coined in 1896, by Ranger Captain William “Bill” McDonald in Dallas, where he had been sent to prevent the illegal heavyweight prize fight between Bob Fitzsimmons and Pete Maher. The story says the Mayor met McDonald’s train and asked where the other Rangers were. McDonald replied, “Hell, ain’t I enough? There’s only one prizefight!”

  18. @Thomas
    The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider "poaching" away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I'll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were "vanning" rioters with BORTAC that it's a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It's probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it's starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn't made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of "subordinate compelling surrender," in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for... except Portland's one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cloudbuster, @countenance, @Harry Baldwin, @cynthia curran

    There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    Probably. One way to do it would be to surround the place when these morons are sleeping and bombard their camp with tear gas and flash bangs. Round them all up and bulldoze their stuff.

    Having said that, if I were a Portland cop, I would be in a donut shop filling out job applications for place like Provo, Utah.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Jim Don Bob


    Having said that, if I were a Portland cop, I would be in a donut shop filling out job applications for place like Provo, Utah.

     

    Pay attention!

    https://amgreatness.com/2020/06/30/street-agitator-shoots-suv-driver-during-black-lives-matter-riot-in-provo/

    https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/7/1/21310724/protests-downtown-provo-face-off-race-equality-counter-protest-assault-rifles

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/07/01/police-charge-utah-protester-with-shooting-driver-rioting/
  19. You would think that social-media would be able to detect then block activity associated with the formation of flash mobs.

    Political rather than technological indeed

  20. @Foreign Expert
    Someone has suggested seizing the bank accounts of BLM and ANTIFA . Don’t RICO laws apply.?Didn’t they do that to the KKK?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kronos

    Someone has suggested seizing the bank accounts of BLM and ANTIFA .

    Aren’t all the big banks and the IRS Woke too?

  21. But this reporter refuses to mention the race of the criminals he observed.

    I assume it is Haven Monahan and his Hawaiian-shirted henchmen (but not any actual Hawaiians).

    A remarkable fraction in Portland are some version of transgender. Oregon has offered free transsexual health services for several years, so perhaps the state attracts this type of mentally ill person from across the country?

    Laboratories of democracy socialism!

    The riots tend to go on the longest in places like Portland where there are few blacks, so it’s easier to theorize about what they must be like.

    Good line.

    There has been little Antifa rioting in heavily Jewish cities like New York and Los Angeles.

    So is the rioting in NYC more BLM than Antifa?

    Clara Kraebber *seems* Jewish, not just from her ambiguously “German” name, but from her family background.

  22. @Redneck farmer
    Wha- still no White Riot from The Clash?
    And some groups aren't above the law, they're below it. They can't understand concepts like assault, theft, and murder; they don't exist in their native habitats.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “still no White Riot from The Clash?”

    As great as that song is, it is proto-Antifa, not pro-White. At the time it was recorded, Britain was still full of actual Britons, and had not yet been (((submerged))) under a mile-deep glacier of brown sludge. So the moral of the song is not pro-white, it is “yeah, we should throw bricks at the establishment too, just like our black friends.”

    Musically, and as songwriters, the Clash are as great as ever; but as a political reference, it’s like quoting Gladstone or something.

  23. A few months ago, I put “Antifa” and “regression to the mean” in the same blog post.

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2020/06/07/antifa-reconsidered/

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @countenance

    You could have added the regressive left (Dave Rubin - ex red diaper Brooklynite).

  24. @Thomas
    The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider "poaching" away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I'll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were "vanning" rioters with BORTAC that it's a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It's probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it's starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn't made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of "subordinate compelling surrender," in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for... except Portland's one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cloudbuster, @countenance, @Harry Baldwin, @cynthia curran

    In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn’t made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision.

    That’s just revisionism or ass-covering. It was well-known at the time that it was the mayor’s decision over the chief’s objections.

  25. @Thomas
    The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider "poaching" away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I'll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were "vanning" rioters with BORTAC that it's a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It's probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it's starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn't made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of "subordinate compelling surrender," in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for... except Portland's one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cloudbuster, @countenance, @Harry Baldwin, @cynthia curran

    As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control.

    Republican state Attorneys General taking up the caseloads of Soros-funded county-level DAs. Back in my native St. Louis, and Missouri, that is starting to happen.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @countenance

    There is more that can be done here. I'm sure a deep dive into Soros' DA's would produce all sorts of conflicts in who gets to skate, State DA's should pushing to get them disbarred and pursued through the Bar Associations.

  26. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    Avery Tompkins isn’t even a good trans name — Google image search turns up mostly attractive bio women with that name. I wonder if it is actually her birth name.

  27. Re my post above about Antifa and regression to the mean:

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean. Meaning, that if you’re the 18-30 year old son or daughter of very upper middle class high IQ parents, the odds are high than your own IQ isn’t as high, meaning that, just based on that alone, you’re not going to have the same kind of comfortable cushy life as your parents. That is of course not counting all the other social, economic and political factors working against you, those are mainly ones of economic elitism.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @countenance

    https://postimg.cc/bZvxv8xY

    , @anon
    @countenance

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean.

    Uh, sure. Right after the open and honest discussion of "mean" and "variance" and "linear regression".

    Should be a piece of cake!

    , @Dieter Kief
    @countenance

    If only IQ wasn't so nazi-ish.

  28. Great column, for all the reasons cited by other commenters. I especially appreciated Steve’s taxonomy of rioters and their “motivations.”

    The following line is wonderfully droll in the classic Sailerian manner (emphasis added):

    Also common are drug addicts, sex offenders, punk rock fans, *educators*, and general lowlifes who have personal reasons for hating cops.

    It’s a regular Catalogue of Sh*ts (apologies to Homer).

  29. @Anon
    This piece is really well done. I'd like to see you on Tucker Carlson, but I guess you're a little too radioactive. We'll have to be satisfied with the commentariat "appropriating" your ideas.

    I've noticed that an alternative to the intellectual dark web has started to appear, people like Taibbi, Sullivan, Herzog, Singal, MacDougald, and Daub, who have started to be ostracized by the media they previously worked for, due to nascient "noticing." They have monetized with Patreon and podcasting or newsletters. Perhaps they will feel freer to directly quote and interact with you.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Known Fact

    Maybe Steve could appear on Tucker in dark silhouette, with voice distortion. I mean, everyone the left quotes is anonymous …

  30. @countenance
    @Thomas

    As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control.

    Republican state Attorneys General taking up the caseloads of Soros-funded county-level DAs. Back in my native St. Louis, and Missouri, that is starting to happen.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    There is more that can be done here. I’m sure a deep dive into Soros’ DA’s would produce all sorts of conflicts in who gets to skate, State DA’s should pushing to get them disbarred and pursued through the Bar Associations.

  31. Off topic question (though relevant to BLM):

    What’s up with George Zimmerman’s lawsuit?

    George Zimmerman sues Trayvon Martin’s family for $100 million in damages
    The lawyer for the former neighborhood watchman alleges that a key witness was an “imposter.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martin-s-family-100-million-damages-n1095916

    I think there’s no doubt about Rachel Jeantel being an imposter.

  32. Of course, the fundamental problem is political rather than technical: Democratic governors and mayors haven’t wanted to arrest the criminals.

    But it would be reasonable after Nov. 3 to treat race rioting as a federal civil rights offense. Rioting over race should be treated as a hate crime and punished accordingly.

    True. The whole concept of a “hate crime” is inherently noxious, but as long as enemy laws are on the books, might as well use them against the enemy.

    However, this assumes that Trump, Barr, and whoever else is nominally — and maybe really — on the side of civilization is actually in charge of the executive-branch machinery in DC. That assumption is highly questionable, at best. Let’s face it, this is a banana republic now. Looking forward to meeting many of you after the soccer stadium has been converted to an internment and re-education camp.

    • Replies: @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Reactionary Utopian

    I’m always pleasantly surprised by the depth of the iSteve commentariat’s knowledge base. 1970s Chilean politics-as-punchline is just great!

  33. @The Alarmist
    Shameful if you believe in truth. I’d say it is classic Big Lie, straight from the Adolph Hitler/Josef Göbbels media style-book.

    An hour later—as called for in the Instagram post—caravans of rental cars began exiting the freeway and traveling in rows of three to five towards the Downtown.
     
    If the police know these are rental cars, you’d think they could fairly easily follow the money. That assumes they actually want to. I suspect the detective teams of the major city PDs have been told to stand down on following the money for things like rental cars and pallets of bricks, while camera footage is used catch a few useful idiots to make it look like justice is being done.

    The whiter, more political vandals who smash the windows of unlootable venues like Starbucks (what are they going to steal: coffee stirrers?)…
     
    The City Mugs are quite nice ... for the god of me I don’t know why Jakarta is one of the smallest, but it seems to be real china ... and quite pricey, so they make good leftist trophies.

    In some cities, such as Oakland, there are black radical organizations that riot fairly frequently.
     
    As Sleepy Creepy Joe would say, Come on Man! A black street party is always a White racist’s riot.

    Moreover, no evidence of Putin’s spetsnaz commandos air-dropping from their base in Murmansk into Minneapolis, Portland, and Kenosha has turned up.
     
    Actually, it would probably be the guys from Stepnoy in the Rostov Oblast.

    After all these years of Antifa violence in the streets, we still know very little about their makeup because the press hasn’t been interested in reporting on them.
     
    There’s nothing stopping the FBI or DoJ from holding press conferences, putting out wanted posters, or even creating decks of playing cards. You know they have to have the information. I guess investigating the Trump family and organisation really does require the entirety of the US intel and criminal justice apparatus.

    Are Antifa led by behind-the-scenes masterminds? Perhaps, but their actions don’t seem anywhere near as clever as, say, those of Hong Kong demonstrators. They seem to mostly succeed by having Democratic politicians on their side.
     
    No pun intended, but these are somebody’s Brownshirts.

    Are Antifa being funded with George Soros’ money? I don’t know. To me, what they are doing doesn’t look all that expensive, especially during a time when government cash is flowing to the unemployed.
     
    Call it diversification, call it insurance. Somebody paid for the bricks and rental cars, and some of that AntiFA gear is quite pricey.

    So, it’s imprudent to shoot many rioters.
     
    After the Colour Revolution, they’ll simply be paid off to go home, and those who won’t will disappeared (opioid overdoses make good cover) if they know too much or prosecuted if they are simply street thugs to give a respectable veneer of justice being served.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I guess investigating the Trump family and organisation really does require the entirety of the US intel and criminal justice apparatus.

    There are still enough left over for the crack 15 man noose task force that performed so admirably at Talladega raceway.

    • LOL: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @bruce county
    @kaganovitch

    https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=SL340IGZgMcBb0Z-srDEybX9q4b-

  34. I hope Mr. Sailer was joking when he said that race riots should be treated as hate crimes. All violent crimes should be treated as hate crimes, but “hate crimes” as a category should be abolished and everyone who mentions them should be shunned.

  35. Why haven’t all of the individuals who complain that the left of center media is downplaying riots and urban violance not complaining that right of center media has been downplaying the hazards, economic impacts, and deaths/hospitilizations due to Covid.

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn’t 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @guest007

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn’t 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    No, because voting differently would have made no difference in the number of people who died of COVID-19. If anything, it would probably have been worse had Hillary been president. Andrew Cuomo, the biggest yapper among the Democrats, has governed the state with the highest total number and per capita number of COVID deaths.

    Replies: @guest007

    , @Alexander Turok
    @guest007

    Because Steve Sailer's a hypocrite, a coward, and a sellout.

    Replies: @guest007

  36. Like most domestic unrest, it’s not the rioting that’s fun.

    It’s the “making up” that follows that makes it all worth it:

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @anonymous

    TwoEightFive...."Sorry, I like my dick too much to get it near you."

  37. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    Maybe Sandman can allow Tompkins to corner him and then shout “Rape” to the rafters and see how much the school offers in settlement. Who needs university?

  38. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    Any idea why Nick Sandmann chose to go there? Seems like an odd choice.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @res

    Maybe he wanted to stay close to home. He won a settlement, but too many liberals hate him for standing still while a crazy old homeless man yells and beats a drum in his face. If his family is small town prosperous small business with good connections and network he really doesn’t need to go far out into the world to make his way.

    Is Lexington Kentucky a conservative area?

  39. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, the *entire* credo of the modern Economist/neocon/Democrat run USA *is* the deification and worship of blacks – or as the good book puts it ‘the sons of God did sport upon the earth causing much mischief to mortal man, they ravished, they raped, they seized’.

    So your call for objectivity won’t go anywhere.

  40. 2020 will eventually recognized as the year of the Liars … from Fearless Fosdick Fauci and his fabulous face farkles to keep us from the kung flu … to the epidemic of rioting, looting, burning, killing and crimes against White folks by POC … to the Presidential campaign — especially the one run by the dnc and its biden/harris ticket …

  41. I have so little idea as to what to believe that I am going to go and look for myself.

  42. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    What a trans-freak show. This passes for normal in 2020 in a Kentucky university. Kind of amazing how quickly things have changed. The damaged and the mutants have taken over heartland universities. Getting paid well for this too!

    Transylvania University, colloquially known as “Transy”, is a private university in Lexington, Kentucky. It was founded in 1780 and was the first university in Kentucky.

    • Agree: jimmyriddle
  43. From my corner of the Rust Belt it’s clear that heavy-handed police action from the outset kept many “protests” “peaceful,” making it all the more disingenuous when media filth portray these gatherings as if they were held by melanated Quakers. We had relative peace here because police proactively gassed and thumped the boldest in a crowd itching to cause property damage. As a result, downtown was preserved, and damage was limited to the stores already marked for looting during the distraction (sneaker shops, sail foam stores, and any place sellin malt likka.)

    Affluent shitlibs, who normally don’t mix with the diverse cast of lumpenprole losers who cause the most damage, got exactly what they were looking for: selfies and a story to share around the buttplug. I was GASSED by Drumpf’s fascist shock troops and lived to tell the tale; I even got an approving nod from a Black Bodie! With this in pocket these types have no more reason to come out, especially as they’ve had their fill of rubbing up against methmouth types and feral blecks during a pandemic. Nary a peep since.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @More R1b, Less H1B

    Nice commenter handle!

  44. @countenance
    Re my post above about Antifa and regression to the mean:

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean. Meaning, that if you're the 18-30 year old son or daughter of very upper middle class high IQ parents, the odds are high than your own IQ isn't as high, meaning that, just based on that alone, you're not going to have the same kind of comfortable cushy life as your parents. That is of course not counting all the other social, economic and political factors working against you, those are mainly ones of economic elitism.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anon, @Dieter Kief

  45. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @countenance
    Re my post above about Antifa and regression to the mean:

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean. Meaning, that if you're the 18-30 year old son or daughter of very upper middle class high IQ parents, the odds are high than your own IQ isn't as high, meaning that, just based on that alone, you're not going to have the same kind of comfortable cushy life as your parents. That is of course not counting all the other social, economic and political factors working against you, those are mainly ones of economic elitism.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anon, @Dieter Kief

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean.

    Uh, sure. Right after the open and honest discussion of “mean” and “variance” and “linear regression”.

    Should be a piece of cake!

  46. @kaganovitch
    @The Alarmist

    I guess investigating the Trump family and organisation really does require the entirety of the US intel and criminal justice apparatus.

    There are still enough left over for the crack 15 man noose task force that performed so admirably at Talladega raceway.

    Replies: @bruce county

  47. @res
    @jimmyriddle

    Any idea why Nick Sandmann chose to go there? Seems like an odd choice.

    Replies: @Alden

    Maybe he wanted to stay close to home. He won a settlement, but too many liberals hate him for standing still while a crazy old homeless man yells and beats a drum in his face. If his family is small town prosperous small business with good connections and network he really doesn’t need to go far out into the world to make his way.

    Is Lexington Kentucky a conservative area?

  48. @Foreign Expert
    Someone has suggested seizing the bank accounts of BLM and ANTIFA . Don’t RICO laws apply.?Didn’t they do that to the KKK?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kronos

    (Don’t forget the PATRIOT ACT.)

    I think one major daja vu similarity to 1960s (hippie/anti-war/black) rioting is the inability of the police and DA to crack down on the baddies. The higher ups especially in Portland and Seattle are very hesitant about major pushback against the rioters.

  49. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    A remarkable fraction in Portland are some version of transgender. Oregon has offered free transsexual health services for several years, so perhaps the state attracts this type of mentally ill person from across the country?

    I think there are a couple of things to keep in mind here. First of all, if you’re a loser or a weirdo or a freak or just a scumbag, and nobody else wants to hang out with you, antifa will always take you. So that’s one thing. They just need bodies in the street. You don’t have to be smart or strong or a decent person, or anything, really. So I can imagine you’d attract a lot of trannies that way.

    Second, there’s something almost profoundly unmanly about antifa. Most guys, if they start a fight with someone, want to either win it or, failing that, at least put up a respectable fight. Antifa doesn’t do that. Antifa screams in people’s faces and taunts them and talks a boatload of trash, and attacks them as much as they can without getting in trouble, and then finally, when the cop or the person they’re annoying fights back, they either run away, or scream bloody murder about how they’re being attacked. They’re like every annoying kid you knew growing up who would constantly pick fights with the bigger kids, and then go running off to the teacher when the bigger kid finally beat him up.

    What kind of guy wants to act that way? Well, the kind of guy who thinks he’s a girl, apparently.

    I mean, there are a few antifa who are genuinely unhinged, and a lot of them who just hate the police because they’re criminals. But if you’re not one of those two kinds of people, and you’re in antifa, then I can just about guarantee that you’re gay or a tranny or a pedo or the kind of guy who likes to beat up women. Because, again, what other kind of man would want to act like that?

    And I understand the logic of what antifa does, honestly. I mean, they’re dumb, but they’re not dumb enough to think that they can actually win a fight with a row of cops. So they have to resort to street theater tactics to try to get sympathy from people.

    But the thing is, I don’t know who it’s supposed to work on. As far as I can tell, the only people who actually like antifa are the people who never really watch them. In every riot stream you watch, even the ones with the pro-BLM streamers, everyone in the live chat hates antifa. Everyone roots for the cops when antifa comes on, because they actually make the cops look more sympathetic with the way they act. They even make the cops look cool, by playing the Imperial March from Star Wars on loudspeakers when the cops start marching towards them.

    Their street theater is sort of like the theater done by those obese black women you always see at memorials to dead black criminals who get shot by the cops. Sure, they didn’t know the guy, and had never met him, and would never have even heard of this dirtbag if the cops hadn’t shot him, but they scream and cry like he’s her own son, because he’s one of Our People, shot down by The Man.

    Except, as stupid as that is, at least that actually works on some people, because people grew up watching shows with these kinds of obese black women portrayed as sympathetic characters. But where, and when, was the Annoying, Cowardly Anarchist ever considered a sympathetic “type” in our culture?

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    Antifa screams in people’s faces and taunts them and talks a boatload of trash, and attacks them as much as they can without getting in trouble, and then finally, when the cop or the person they’re annoying fights back, they either run away, or scream bloody murder about how they’re being attacked.

    That particular method works well in the K - 12 world.

    Look deeper, though, and you will see that Antifa tactics in Portland involve a lot of hit-and-run sparrows, often with skateboards or bats. The foolish man in Dallas earlier this year who came out of his business waving a sword wound up being pounded by multiple Antifa, one with a skateboard, and he died. There's plenty of vid out there from Portlandia of foolish normal people arguing with an Antifa associated clump in the street, only to get blindsided and knocked to the ground by a couple of sparrows who sprint away.

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40's) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhLtqP7UYAAcPtV.jpg

    Replies: @anon

  50. @countenance
    A few months ago, I put "Antifa" and "regression to the mean" in the same blog post.

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2020/06/07/antifa-reconsidered/

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    You could have added the regressive left (Dave Rubin – ex red diaper Brooklynite).

  51. As commenter #646 noted, this was a well-done column. All your full articles on Takimag are, but this seemed perfectly organized, including many of the points you’ve hashed out over the last few weeks.

    I differ with you on just one thing. That is, you mentioned the fun with cameras, computers, and data in looking up the looters and rioter after the fact for the purposes of arrest and prosecution. First of all, as you mentioned regarding the Soros-elected D/A’s and such, most will just cost the taxpayers money and end up right back out for the next riot. (Not that many of these people find it at all embarrassing to have an arrest on their records.)

    Secondly, it seems not imprudent at all for the American people to defend their lives and property with force. That includes any weapon that works. I do understand that a bad shot, at a guy who wasn’t (OK, can’t be proven to be, via video, and right away) in the process of causing one to fear for one’s life, may have bad optics. Screw the optics, as they say. Do you want your stuff all smashed up and people yelling at you all night from right outside your windows?

    Mr. Rittenhouse is an excellent example of how it’s done. There was a guy who had been one of the ones running at him to kick his ass or worse, who held up both arms in surrender once Kyle got his rifle under control. With all that adrenaline flowing, Kyle was cool, and did not fire at the guy. He did what he needed to do, which was stop the mob from running toward him with bad intent. This is a 17 y/o man, from what I gather. We can all strive for the coolness under fire of Kyle Rittenhouse.

    Kyle’s Life Matters!

  52. @countenance
    Re my post above about Antifa and regression to the mean:

    Perhaps one thing that can be done to take the wind out of the sails of Antifa is for society to be able to discuss openly and honestly about statistical concepts like regression to the mean. Meaning, that if you're the 18-30 year old son or daughter of very upper middle class high IQ parents, the odds are high than your own IQ isn't as high, meaning that, just based on that alone, you're not going to have the same kind of comfortable cushy life as your parents. That is of course not counting all the other social, economic and political factors working against you, those are mainly ones of economic elitism.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anon, @Dieter Kief

    If only IQ wasn’t so nazi-ish.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  53. The whiter, more political vandals who smash the windows of unlootable venues like Starbucks (what are they going to steal: coffee stirrers?) and burn police stations are Antifa.

    They probably do it to destroy a place of soul-crushing economic exploitation. Starbucks barista work is the modern day “satanic mills” of 21st century America. (I learned the trade a few years back at a very fancy chain with a classy clientele of retirees so the pace and customers wasn’t too bad. But like how you can make decent money waitering at a fancy steak restaurant, that’s essentially impossible at an Applebee’s.)

  54. Great Taki piece you linked to today. Too bad you aren’t writing regularly for the Wall St. Journal.

    It strikes me as entirely consistent for the TDS mob (Trump Derangement Syndrome) to deny and fabricate fantasy tales of what is actually happening in major cities. These are the same brain dead idiots (apologies for the actual brain dead persons in nursing homes, for them it isn’t a choice) who for years worshiped Robert Mueller (remember him, now heading quickly down the Biden path of incoherence) and his FBI/CIA/MI5 fabricated Russiagate hoax.

    Then Nancy Fancy’s subsequent fizzle of an impeachment trial involving Ukrainians. No one, even Democrats, bought into that. Much less actual Ukrainians.

    Most of the MSM propaganda megaphones seem to be playing a real life version of “Underground Resistance to the Nazis” circa 2020. They hope their millions of wordy falsehoods and baseless accusations will somehow feed into a mass movement that ousts Evil Orange Man. There are elections of course.

    But their faith in actual American voters is flagging. Too many Walmart Deplorables. Too few paying subscribers to the Bezos Post or the All the News We See Fit to Print Times.

    Hence we see calls already for a military coup if Biden/Commala go down in flames. Already tales of “stolen mailboxes” and sinister Russian Facebook posers, doggedly posting Andy Ngo videos of flame dancing antifa rioters in the streets. How dare they violate Twitter’s Terms of Service!

    So there are no “riots” not caused by sinister Hawaiian shirt wearing Buglaoos (maybe Tulsi Gabbard is in charge of logistics for them?). There are no elections they lose that aren’t caused by sinister Russians, North Macedonian hackers (where the heck is that located?) or I guess now, the “systemic racism” that pervades America. So an aging senile white guy and his triracial Hindu running mate might be in electoral peril. A ticket even Dem primary voters didn’t want.

    But cheer up. You and I just worry about the pandemic and the Democrat caused Depression. They have to worry about the unthinkable. Four more years of Putin Puppet Orange Man!

    The horrors! The horrors!

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
  55. “Until very recently, a remarkable number of naive Americans had fallen for the mainstream media”

    i think a lot of people have caught on by now.

    i remember being around for the Rodney King riots and wondering if it was true what they were saying about the police officers and what happened that night. i just checked the internet to see what the usual references say about it, and some STILL say it was a pale penis person blind hatred event. but one of the officers was mexican. encyclopedia Britannica has it listed factually incorrect still, in 2020.

    now, 30 years later, after decades of them trying the same trick over and over, the current me would have immediately spotted the media’s lying tactics. and these days i do immediately spot the latest fabricated national news story.

    more insidious and useful though is their tactic of NOT covering something. a coordinated, blanket blackout policy on covering certain stories, can be more effective than the other tactic of going national with a fabricated story. not covering african crime at all is their greatest success story, probably.

  56. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    A remarkable fraction in Portland are some version of transgender. Oregon has offered free transsexual health services for several years, so perhaps the state attracts this type of mentally ill person from across the country?
     
    I think there are a couple of things to keep in mind here. First of all, if you're a loser or a weirdo or a freak or just a scumbag, and nobody else wants to hang out with you, antifa will always take you. So that's one thing. They just need bodies in the street. You don't have to be smart or strong or a decent person, or anything, really. So I can imagine you'd attract a lot of trannies that way.

    Second, there's something almost profoundly unmanly about antifa. Most guys, if they start a fight with someone, want to either win it or, failing that, at least put up a respectable fight. Antifa doesn't do that. Antifa screams in people's faces and taunts them and talks a boatload of trash, and attacks them as much as they can without getting in trouble, and then finally, when the cop or the person they're annoying fights back, they either run away, or scream bloody murder about how they're being attacked. They're like every annoying kid you knew growing up who would constantly pick fights with the bigger kids, and then go running off to the teacher when the bigger kid finally beat him up.

    What kind of guy wants to act that way? Well, the kind of guy who thinks he's a girl, apparently.

    I mean, there are a few antifa who are genuinely unhinged, and a lot of them who just hate the police because they're criminals. But if you're not one of those two kinds of people, and you're in antifa, then I can just about guarantee that you're gay or a tranny or a pedo or the kind of guy who likes to beat up women. Because, again, what other kind of man would want to act like that?

    And I understand the logic of what antifa does, honestly. I mean, they're dumb, but they're not dumb enough to think that they can actually win a fight with a row of cops. So they have to resort to street theater tactics to try to get sympathy from people.

    But the thing is, I don't know who it's supposed to work on. As far as I can tell, the only people who actually like antifa are the people who never really watch them. In every riot stream you watch, even the ones with the pro-BLM streamers, everyone in the live chat hates antifa. Everyone roots for the cops when antifa comes on, because they actually make the cops look more sympathetic with the way they act. They even make the cops look cool, by playing the Imperial March from Star Wars on loudspeakers when the cops start marching towards them.

    Their street theater is sort of like the theater done by those obese black women you always see at memorials to dead black criminals who get shot by the cops. Sure, they didn't know the guy, and had never met him, and would never have even heard of this dirtbag if the cops hadn't shot him, but they scream and cry like he's her own son, because he's one of Our People, shot down by The Man.

    Except, as stupid as that is, at least that actually works on some people, because people grew up watching shows with these kinds of obese black women portrayed as sympathetic characters. But where, and when, was the Annoying, Cowardly Anarchist ever considered a sympathetic "type" in our culture?

    Replies: @anon

    Antifa screams in people’s faces and taunts them and talks a boatload of trash, and attacks them as much as they can without getting in trouble, and then finally, when the cop or the person they’re annoying fights back, they either run away, or scream bloody murder about how they’re being attacked.

    That particular method works well in the K – 12 world.

    Look deeper, though, and you will see that Antifa tactics in Portland involve a lot of hit-and-run sparrows, often with skateboards or bats. The foolish man in Dallas earlier this year who came out of his business waving a sword wound up being pounded by multiple Antifa, one with a skateboard, and he died. There’s plenty of vid out there from Portlandia of foolish normal people arguing with an Antifa associated clump in the street, only to get blindsided and knocked to the ground by a couple of sparrows who sprint away.

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40’s) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40’s) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    That's true, and you're right. But I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don't like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I'd put him in the "genuinely unhinged" category. It was still a cowardly attack on an unsuspecting person, though.

    I never meant to give the impression that antifa couldn't be dangerous if they ever got their hands on a gun. They could. But then, so could my grandma. And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they've got nothing. That's why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn't go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn't, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    It's a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn't do that. But these people would. They wouldn't even see a problem with it.

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers. But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn't actually won anything, that I can tell, and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    Replies: @anon, @sayless

  57. …Speaking of “What riots?”

    News Flash:

    Three Negroes Arrested in Fatal Shooting of White Cleveland Detective

    https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2020/09/teen-charged-in-fatal-shooting-of-cleveland-police-officer-informant.html

  58. Steve — No chance treating people equal under the law.

    The Whole point of the Civil Rights movement was Divine Right of Kangz!

    That’s what this is all about.

    The Kangz must kill America so Wakanda can live. by way of the Purge movies.

  59. Steve, this is an excellent essay and at the same time just a damning indictment of practically the whole modern MSM left and right and even most of the less main-stream.

    Any of 20 or 30 outlets should have come up with the breakdown that you did and have the resources (people) to illustrate it much more definitively and in depth. They could have done it. They should have done it.

    Maybe i’ve just spent too much time here, but the piece doesn’t even strike me as particularly pejorative to blacks or hispanics. I mean people looting the CVS or Target or even Best Buy isn’t the end of the world. Younger more criminal youths are going to do that. You catch them, smack them upside the head (figuratively; by punishing them with some actual proportionate jail time like 1 month or 3 or 9 months depending no what they actually did ) and get on with it.

    The MSM turning a blind eye here is SO the soft bigotry of low expectations. Treat people like people. Reward them when they do good, punish them when they do bad. Aiding and abetting this level of anti-social behavior is not actually going to help blacks, the black community or anyone black adjacent. Can’t they see this ?!

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @vhrm


    Aiding and abetting this level of anti-social behavior is not actually going to help blacks, the black community or anyone black adjacent. Can’t they see this ?!
     
    They could see this but they are at a petty war with Orange Man Bad so nothing of these things matters anymore. It's like the medieval crusades - primitive/archaic forms of religion (acheaving the Good by destroying the Bad) - intertwined with the craze of the day. Nothing has changed in this regard: This is still a powerful mixture. - But it also clearly is a form of - regression. This is the regressive left, blinded by itself.
  60. Hmmm…

  61. Very informative, Steve, and many (most) of the commentors.

    We see bits on TV, some U-tub, it is so crazy. At the same time as compulsory confinement for members many, to allow rioting mobs?

    It is insane.

    For the Alarmist, you should read what Hitler and the brilliant Goebbels actually said about the big lie. It was not a prescription for NS propaganda, but a characteristic of propaganda from their enemies. Please read in context to avoid making yourself look foolish.

    For the OP who was saying something about the Clash, didn’t ‘Strummer’ die some years ago?

  62. @Thomas
    The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider "poaching" away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I'll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were "vanning" rioters with BORTAC that it's a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It's probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it's starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn't made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of "subordinate compelling surrender," in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for... except Portland's one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cloudbuster, @countenance, @Harry Baldwin, @cynthia curran

    Great comment, thanks for posting.

  63. @guest007
    Why haven't all of the individuals who complain that the left of center media is downplaying riots and urban violance not complaining that right of center media has been downplaying the hazards, economic impacts, and deaths/hospitilizations due to Covid.

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn't 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Alexander Turok

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn’t 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    No, because voting differently would have made no difference in the number of people who died of COVID-19. If anything, it would probably have been worse had Hillary been president. Andrew Cuomo, the biggest yapper among the Democrats, has governed the state with the highest total number and per capita number of COVID deaths.

    • Agree: Ben tillman, sayless
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Harry Baldwin

    Of course, if the U.S. had the death rates of Canada, the total deaths would be less than 100k. To argue to 200k deaths was inevitable is wrong and just excuse making. President Trump was president during a huge public health failures, yet no one on the right cares an all they do is make excuses for the incompetence.

  64. @anonymous
    Like most domestic unrest, it's not the rioting that's fun.

    It's the "making up" that follows that makes it all worth it:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1303597566483816448?s=20

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    TwoEightFive….”Sorry, I like my dick too much to get it near you.”

  65. After Charlottesville, three Republicans–John McCain, Marco Rubio, and (with the belated departure of McCain, the most odious Republican of all) Mitt Romney took the side of Antifa.

    Mitt Romney
    @MittRomney
    No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.
    8:14 PM · Aug 15, 2017

    >>>
    John McCain
    @SenJohnMcCain
    There’s no moral equivalency between racists & Americans standing up to defy hate& bigotry. The President of the United States should say so
    9:02 PM · Aug 15, 2017

    >>>
    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    ·
    Aug 15, 2017
    The organizers of events which inspired & led to #charlottesvilleterroristattack are 100% to blame for a number of reasons. 1/6

    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    They are adherents of an evil ideology which argues certain people are inferior because of race, ethnicity or nation of origin. 2/6
    5:48 PM · Aug 15, 2017

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Harry Baldwin


    After Charlottesville, three Republicans–John McCain, Marco Rubio, and (with the belated departure of McCain, the most odious Republican of all) Mitt Romney took the side of Antifa.
     
    All three belong in the very lowest circle of Hell - along with every Bush ever born.
  66. This looks like it should a bigger Santa Monica story than the one below:

    https://twitter.com/BS2KZ/status/1303094042159321088

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @fnn

    That video has been around for most of the summer.

  67. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    Nick Sandman is “dangerous.”

    That’s completely ridiculous. Why is the ACLU even involved?

  68. @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    They’re counting the days until November 3rd, when all of this finally gets turned around for good.
     
    I doubt it. I think so many Boomer Neoliberals are so focused on retiring/liquidating their 401k plans before the stocks dive by 50% or more that they’ll play along. If they can keep the stock market propped up just long enough...

    https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3054114-inline-i-3-why-prudential-wants-people-to-literally-run-for-their-retirement.jpg

    As long as blacks and Antifa remember to vote Biden in November, they can have some good old fun in the meantime. They need Biden (or more specifically a Larry Summers type) to keep the rickety old system afloat as long as possible. (Harris can lock them up later.)

    https://youtu.be/_t3ETS_GpXE

    One rarely discussed subject in the MSM is how the 2008 Great Recession negatively effected the establishments of both parties. The Great Recession greatly sped up the economic dysfunction table originally planned by the Boomers. The stuff we are seeing now wasn’t supposed to happen so soon.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    I’d be more impressed by your analysis if you had spelled “affected” correctly.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @AceDeuce

    Whoops...

  69. @guest007
    Why haven't all of the individuals who complain that the left of center media is downplaying riots and urban violance not complaining that right of center media has been downplaying the hazards, economic impacts, and deaths/hospitilizations due to Covid.

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn't 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Alexander Turok

    Because Steve Sailer’s a hypocrite, a coward, and a sellout.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Alexander Turok

    I would say that Steve was interested in Covid back in March and April but seems to have lost interest. Writing about riots seems to be in Steve's wheelhouse but noticing that the number of deaths due to homicides associated with the riots and civil unrest is lost in the round off of the deaths due to Covid-19. Also, the economy has been hurt much more due to Covid rather than riots but no one would know that by reading anything of the right side of political reporting.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  70. Anyone have any ideas as to why spread to other English-speaking countries has been minor? All the crackpot ideas have spread widely.

    There have a few protests in Australia by aborigines.

    Not much in Canada either.

    I think it’s mainly due no blacks (except a few that have migrated from Africa. Legal migrants would be from their country’s upper class).

    Antifa is using the black protests for their own purposes. Lacking that in Canada and Australia, they are stuck for the most part.

  71. @fnn
    This looks like it should a bigger Santa Monica story than the one below:

    https://twitter.com/BS2KZ/status/1303094042159321088

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    That video has been around for most of the summer.

  72. @Reactionary Utopian

    Of course, the fundamental problem is political rather than technical: Democratic governors and mayors haven’t wanted to arrest the criminals.

    But it would be reasonable after Nov. 3 to treat race rioting as a federal civil rights offense. Rioting over race should be treated as a hate crime and punished accordingly.
     
    True. The whole concept of a "hate crime" is inherently noxious, but as long as enemy laws are on the books, might as well use them against the enemy.

    However, this assumes that Trump, Barr, and whoever else is nominally -- and maybe really -- on the side of civilization is actually in charge of the executive-branch machinery in DC. That assumption is highly questionable, at best. Let's face it, this is a banana republic now. Looking forward to meeting many of you after the soccer stadium has been converted to an internment and re-education camp.

    Replies: @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    I’m always pleasantly surprised by the depth of the iSteve commentariat’s knowledge base. 1970s Chilean politics-as-punchline is just great!

  73. @More R1b, Less H1B
    From my corner of the Rust Belt it's clear that heavy-handed police action from the outset kept many "protests" "peaceful," making it all the more disingenuous when media filth portray these gatherings as if they were held by melanated Quakers. We had relative peace here because police proactively gassed and thumped the boldest in a crowd itching to cause property damage. As a result, downtown was preserved, and damage was limited to the stores already marked for looting during the distraction (sneaker shops, sail foam stores, and any place sellin malt likka.)

    Affluent shitlibs, who normally don't mix with the diverse cast of lumpenprole losers who cause the most damage, got exactly what they were looking for: selfies and a story to share around the buttplug. I was GASSED by Drumpf's fascist shock troops and lived to tell the tale; I even got an approving nod from a Black Bodie! With this in pocket these types have no more reason to come out, especially as they've had their fill of rubbing up against methmouth types and feral blecks during a pandemic. Nary a peep since.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Nice commenter handle!

  74. @AceDeuce
    @Kronos

    I'd be more impressed by your analysis if you had spelled "affected" correctly.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Whoops…

  75. You did make some good points.

  76. anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @anon

    Antifa screams in people’s faces and taunts them and talks a boatload of trash, and attacks them as much as they can without getting in trouble, and then finally, when the cop or the person they’re annoying fights back, they either run away, or scream bloody murder about how they’re being attacked.

    That particular method works well in the K - 12 world.

    Look deeper, though, and you will see that Antifa tactics in Portland involve a lot of hit-and-run sparrows, often with skateboards or bats. The foolish man in Dallas earlier this year who came out of his business waving a sword wound up being pounded by multiple Antifa, one with a skateboard, and he died. There's plenty of vid out there from Portlandia of foolish normal people arguing with an Antifa associated clump in the street, only to get blindsided and knocked to the ground by a couple of sparrows who sprint away.

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40's) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhLtqP7UYAAcPtV.jpg

    Replies: @anon

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40’s) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    That’s true, and you’re right. But I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don’t like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I’d put him in the “genuinely unhinged” category. It was still a cowardly attack on an unsuspecting person, though.

    I never meant to give the impression that antifa couldn’t be dangerous if they ever got their hands on a gun. They could. But then, so could my grandma. And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they’ve got nothing. That’s why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn’t go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn’t, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    It’s a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn’t do that. But these people would. They wouldn’t even see a problem with it.

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers. But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn’t actually won anything, that I can tell, and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don’t like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I’d put him in the “genuinely unhinged” category. It was still a cowardly attack deliberate assassination on an unsuspecting person, though.

    Fixed that. We all need to bear in mind that radical groups of all sorts in history, especially the 20th century, have found such people to be useful in the short term. In the longer term...the first groups purged by the brand new Soviets in 1921 were the anarchists. They went from being assets in street fighting chaos to liabilities. Earlier in the century, the Socialist Revolutionaries in Russia attempted to destabilize pre-WW I Russia with suicide bombers targeted at high ranking officials. That failed, but there was never a shortage of volunteers.

    People like this are useful to those trying to destabilize a society in the short term.

    And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they’ve got nothing.

    What is an "actual fight" in the Current Year? What does it look like? What is the purpose of an "actual fight'? If a man gets killed, but not in an "actual fight" is he less dead?

    Have you ever read Sun Tzu?

    That’s why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I repeat, have you read Sun Tzu?

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn’t go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    Ok. So what?

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn’t, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    Probably. So what?

    It’s a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn’t do that. But these people would. They wouldn’t even see a problem with it.

    Yes, I agree. So what?

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers.

    With a little work you can find out what they think of themselves. It's not Indians. It's rather more like Spartacists of 1919.

    But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn’t actually won anything, that I can tell,

    Would you walk the streets of downtown Portland at night? Control of territory is not "nothing".

    Notice that after the demolition of the CHAZ/SPAZ/CHOP there has not really been an attempt to create a new one; Portlandia Antifa tried it but didn't have the numbers and probably chose the wrong location. But they can roam around trying to burn stuff down with impunity, shut down critical or neutral press at will, have a command structure & have definitely carried out an assassination with surveillance & getaway. That's not "nothing". Perhaps they are forming a "permanent floating riot CHAZ"?

    and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    What if they don't really want people such as you and me to like them, but they do want us to fear them?

    , @sayless
    @anon

    Well the 17th of September is coming up. BLM and antifa have called for swarming or converging on the White House and staying there until the election.

    It was surprising how quickly they were able to mobilize five thousand people so quickly to tear up Rochester.

    Replies: @anon

  77. anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @anon

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40’s) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    That's true, and you're right. But I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don't like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I'd put him in the "genuinely unhinged" category. It was still a cowardly attack on an unsuspecting person, though.

    I never meant to give the impression that antifa couldn't be dangerous if they ever got their hands on a gun. They could. But then, so could my grandma. And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they've got nothing. That's why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn't go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn't, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    It's a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn't do that. But these people would. They wouldn't even see a problem with it.

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers. But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn't actually won anything, that I can tell, and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    Replies: @anon, @sayless

    I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don’t like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I’d put him in the “genuinely unhinged” category. It was still a cowardly attack deliberate assassination on an unsuspecting person, though.

    Fixed that. We all need to bear in mind that radical groups of all sorts in history, especially the 20th century, have found such people to be useful in the short term. In the longer term…the first groups purged by the brand new Soviets in 1921 were the anarchists. They went from being assets in street fighting chaos to liabilities. Earlier in the century, the Socialist Revolutionaries in Russia attempted to destabilize pre-WW I Russia with suicide bombers targeted at high ranking officials. That failed, but there was never a shortage of volunteers.

    People like this are useful to those trying to destabilize a society in the short term.

    And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they’ve got nothing.

    What is an “actual fight” in the Current Year? What does it look like? What is the purpose of an “actual fight’? If a man gets killed, but not in an “actual fight” is he less dead?

    Have you ever read Sun Tzu?

    That’s why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I repeat, have you read Sun Tzu?

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn’t go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    Ok. So what?

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn’t, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    Probably. So what?

    It’s a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn’t do that. But these people would. They wouldn’t even see a problem with it.

    Yes, I agree. So what?

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers.

    With a little work you can find out what they think of themselves. It’s not Indians. It’s rather more like Spartacists of 1919.

    But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn’t actually won anything, that I can tell,

    Would you walk the streets of downtown Portland at night? Control of territory is not “nothing”.

    Notice that after the demolition of the CHAZ/SPAZ/CHOP there has not really been an attempt to create a new one; Portlandia Antifa tried it but didn’t have the numbers and probably chose the wrong location. But they can roam around trying to burn stuff down with impunity, shut down critical or neutral press at will, have a command structure & have definitely carried out an assassination with surveillance & getaway. That’s not “nothing”. Perhaps they are forming a “permanent floating riot CHAZ”?

    and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    What if they don’t really want people such as you and me to like them, but they do want us to fear them?

  78. @jimmyriddle
    OT, but very iStevey, some ACLU lawyer has criticised TransylvaniaU for admitting 18yo Nick Sandman - aka the Antichrist (or maybe Christ, given the belief systems of his critics).

    The response from the colleges Diversity, Inclusion, Equity "guy", Avery Tompkins, was to say they would watch Sandman like a hawk.

    https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1303318294523449344

    Tompkins is a hilariously non-passing trans man (is s/he on testosterone at all?). One suspects s/he chose to work at this university based on its internet domain.

    https://www.transy.edu/academics/faculty/atompkins/

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @res, @Clyde, @Frau Katze, @Ragno

    The first thing you notice about Avery Tompkins is his energy.


    Well okay – the SECOND thing, then.

    For a minute I wondered if Sandmann or his parents had thoroughly vetted this school – granted, attending a place called Transylvania U would be tempting, but it’s the sort of temptation that could easily be sated by buying a few sweatshirts from a college apparel catalog.

    But there are some realizations that no longer get rubbed in my face 24/7 now that I’ve attained geezerhood, one of which is, in 2020, every goddamn school has a grossly-overpaid tranny diversity hire on staff – and usually four or five.

    I can still remember the Good Old Days, back when I had the luxury of feeling simultaneously drop-jaw horrified, and blessedly superior, when reading about cultural Chernobyls like the Breivik murders or the Charlie Hebdo massacre. I no longer experience either emotion when contemplating those events. Instead I now check my watch – impatiently.

  79. @Jim Don Bob
    @Thomas


    There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.
     
    Probably. One way to do it would be to surround the place when these morons are sleeping and bombard their camp with tear gas and flash bangs. Round them all up and bulldoze their stuff.

    Having said that, if I were a Portland cop, I would be in a donut shop filling out job applications for place like Provo, Utah.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  80. “About 93% of racial justice protests in the US since the death of George Floyd have been peaceful and nondestructive, according to a new report.”

    Ted Bundy lived for approximately 22 million minutes. Someone else can do the calculation if they wish, but the number of minutes that it took to rape and murder 30 women would have been much smaller than the 7%. Shall we refer to Ted Bundy as “mostly peaceful and nondestructive”?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  81. @vhrm
    Steve, this is an excellent essay and at the same time just a damning indictment of practically the whole modern MSM left and right and even most of the less main-stream.

    Any of 20 or 30 outlets should have come up with the breakdown that you did and have the resources (people) to illustrate it much more definitively and in depth. They could have done it. They should have done it.

    Maybe i've just spent too much time here, but the piece doesn't even strike me as particularly pejorative to blacks or hispanics. I mean people looting the CVS or Target or even Best Buy isn't the end of the world. Younger more criminal youths are going to do that. You catch them, smack them upside the head (figuratively; by punishing them with some actual proportionate jail time like 1 month or 3 or 9 months depending no what they actually did ) and get on with it.

    The MSM turning a blind eye here is SO the soft bigotry of low expectations. Treat people like people. Reward them when they do good, punish them when they do bad. Aiding and abetting this level of anti-social behavior is not actually going to help blacks, the black community or anyone black adjacent. Can't they see this ?!

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Aiding and abetting this level of anti-social behavior is not actually going to help blacks, the black community or anyone black adjacent. Can’t they see this ?!

    They could see this but they are at a petty war with Orange Man Bad so nothing of these things matters anymore. It’s like the medieval crusades – primitive/archaic forms of religion (acheaving the Good by destroying the Bad) – intertwined with the craze of the day. Nothing has changed in this regard: This is still a powerful mixture. – But it also clearly is a form of – regression. This is the regressive left, blinded by itself.

  82. @Harry Baldwin
    @guest007

    If 500 murders in Chicago is a cause for voting, then shouldn’t 200k deaths due to Covid-19 also be a reason to vote differently.

    No, because voting differently would have made no difference in the number of people who died of COVID-19. If anything, it would probably have been worse had Hillary been president. Andrew Cuomo, the biggest yapper among the Democrats, has governed the state with the highest total number and per capita number of COVID deaths.

    Replies: @guest007

    Of course, if the U.S. had the death rates of Canada, the total deaths would be less than 100k. To argue to 200k deaths was inevitable is wrong and just excuse making. President Trump was president during a huge public health failures, yet no one on the right cares an all they do is make excuses for the incompetence.

  83. @Alexander Turok
    @guest007

    Because Steve Sailer's a hypocrite, a coward, and a sellout.

    Replies: @guest007

    I would say that Steve was interested in Covid back in March and April but seems to have lost interest. Writing about riots seems to be in Steve’s wheelhouse but noticing that the number of deaths due to homicides associated with the riots and civil unrest is lost in the round off of the deaths due to Covid-19. Also, the economy has been hurt much more due to Covid rather than riots but no one would know that by reading anything of the right side of political reporting.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @guest007

    The criminal justice liberalism of the Warren Court years knocked city living in America for a loop for several decades. Cities are going to have a tough enough time with the virus and the improvements in communications technology, they don't need another pointless rendition of the crime-driven collapse of a half-century ago.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alexander Turok

  84. @guest007
    @Alexander Turok

    I would say that Steve was interested in Covid back in March and April but seems to have lost interest. Writing about riots seems to be in Steve's wheelhouse but noticing that the number of deaths due to homicides associated with the riots and civil unrest is lost in the round off of the deaths due to Covid-19. Also, the economy has been hurt much more due to Covid rather than riots but no one would know that by reading anything of the right side of political reporting.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The criminal justice liberalism of the Warren Court years knocked city living in America for a loop for several decades. Cities are going to have a tough enough time with the virus and the improvements in communications technology, they don’t need another pointless rendition of the crime-driven collapse of a half-century ago.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Steve Sailer

    Another reason for the collapse of cities in just not crime but the change in demographics and in work. Large factories downsized and moved to where they could function as compared to being inside the city limits of Chicago, New York, or Detroit. In addition, the cities skimped on maintenance in the 1960's and 1970's due to inflation, changing demographics, and the legacy of the New Deal.

    Replies: @cynthia curran

    , @Alexander Turok
    @Steve Sailer

    And the people ignoring the rioting are gonna have something else to point to to justify them looking the other way when it's really about securing their paychecks. You seem to think that the rules shouldn't apply to you.

  85. @Steve Sailer
    @guest007

    The criminal justice liberalism of the Warren Court years knocked city living in America for a loop for several decades. Cities are going to have a tough enough time with the virus and the improvements in communications technology, they don't need another pointless rendition of the crime-driven collapse of a half-century ago.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alexander Turok

    Another reason for the collapse of cities in just not crime but the change in demographics and in work. Large factories downsized and moved to where they could function as compared to being inside the city limits of Chicago, New York, or Detroit. In addition, the cities skimped on maintenance in the 1960’s and 1970’s due to inflation, changing demographics, and the legacy of the New Deal.

    • Replies: @cynthia curran
    @guest007

    Yeah, a lot of factories moved to the south. I know around here its blame more on NAFTA, but Michigan got have gotten the foreign car companies to set up plants like they did in several southern states like Alabama, South Carolina, Tn, Kentucky, Texas.

  86. @Steve Sailer
    @guest007

    The criminal justice liberalism of the Warren Court years knocked city living in America for a loop for several decades. Cities are going to have a tough enough time with the virus and the improvements in communications technology, they don't need another pointless rendition of the crime-driven collapse of a half-century ago.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alexander Turok

    And the people ignoring the rioting are gonna have something else to point to to justify them looking the other way when it’s really about securing their paychecks. You seem to think that the rules shouldn’t apply to you.

  87. @Dieter Kief
    @Anon

    Joe Rogan spoke to some people who said Istevee stuff. He and Matt Taibbi and Jimmy Dore were quite explicit about Joe Biden's state of mind. Eric Weinstein said lately that the NYT is no paper he is willing to take seriously any longer.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Does anyone take it seriously? I assume it’s just a money laundering scheme that doubles as a way for bad people to sadistically dunk on their enemies by appealing to the naked-emperor legitimacy of the NYT. “Wow just wow. Are you seriously implying that the Newspaper of Record might employ incompetent and/or unscrupulous people? I’m literally shaking rn”

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @AndrewR

    My estimate is that roughly 1/3 of the German media's US-coverage are retellings of the NYT. 1/6 is WaPo the rest CNN, CBS, and MSNBC, etc. and - maybe 1/100th own reporting.
    since maybe 1000th of them know who Eric Weinstein is, his saying bye bye to the NYT did make an imoression at least on parts of the happy few.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  88. @Harry Baldwin
    After Charlottesville, three Republicans--John McCain, Marco Rubio, and (with the belated departure of McCain, the most odious Republican of all) Mitt Romney took the side of Antifa.

    Mitt Romney
    @MittRomney
    No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.
    8:14 PM · Aug 15, 2017

    >>>
    John McCain
    @SenJohnMcCain
    There's no moral equivalency between racists & Americans standing up to defy hate& bigotry. The President of the United States should say so
    9:02 PM · Aug 15, 2017

    >>>
    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    ·
    Aug 15, 2017
    The organizers of events which inspired & led to #charlottesvilleterroristattack are 100% to blame for a number of reasons. 1/6

    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    They are adherents of an evil ideology which argues certain people are inferior because of race, ethnicity or nation of origin. 2/6
    5:48 PM · Aug 15, 2017


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/

    Replies: @vinteuil

    After Charlottesville, three Republicans–John McCain, Marco Rubio, and (with the belated departure of McCain, the most odious Republican of all) Mitt Romney took the side of Antifa.

    All three belong in the very lowest circle of Hell – along with every Bush ever born.

  89. @anon
    @anon

    Antifa uses losers of all kinds in the front lines, but make no mistake, there are older (30-s and 40’s) men in these groups who lead from right behind the front. This picture is worth 1,000 words. There are multiple Antifa in view, but the pic was taken in such a way that no faces are shown. Not an accident.

    That's true, and you're right. But I would put Michael Reinoehl in the category of criminals who just hate the police because they don't like the fact that the police stop them from committing crimes. I also think I'd put him in the "genuinely unhinged" category. It was still a cowardly attack on an unsuspecting person, though.

    I never meant to give the impression that antifa couldn't be dangerous if they ever got their hands on a gun. They could. But then, so could my grandma. And sure, if they come up behind you and hit you with a skateboard, they can knock you out. Anyone could do that. But in an actual fight, they've got nothing. That's why they typically restrict their activities to places where they know that the cops and city government are on their side, and will just let them go without charges, if they even bother to arrest them in the first place.

    I guess I was just trying to make the point that most self-respecting men wouldn't go for this whole thing of surprise attacks on unsuspecting people, or gay play-fights with the cops.

    I mean, could you ever imagine deliberately blocking traffic, and then whining about it when you get hit by a car? Most people couldn't, I think. Most people seem to find that sort of thing viscerally repulsive.

    It's a lot like calling yourself a woman and then demanding that an actual woman wax your balls. You just wouldn't do that. But these people would. They wouldn't even see a problem with it.

    They probably think of themselves as like Indians engaging in surprise attacks on settlers. But the thing is, nobody else seems to buy it, really. Antifa hasn't actually won anything, that I can tell, and the only people who like them seem to be people who read about them, but never actually see them in action.

    Replies: @anon, @sayless

    Well the 17th of September is coming up. BLM and antifa have called for swarming or converging on the White House and staying there until the election.

    It was surprising how quickly they were able to mobilize five thousand people so quickly to tear up Rochester.

    • Replies: @anon
    @sayless

    "Adbusters" has some documents they call tactical briefings. Here is the URL for briefing 1, that page has links to briefings 2, 3 and 4.

    https://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/whitehousesiege-tactical-briefing-1

  90. @sayless
    @anon

    Well the 17th of September is coming up. BLM and antifa have called for swarming or converging on the White House and staying there until the election.

    It was surprising how quickly they were able to mobilize five thousand people so quickly to tear up Rochester.

    Replies: @anon

    “Adbusters” has some documents they call tactical briefings. Here is the URL for briefing 1, that page has links to briefings 2, 3 and 4.

    https://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/whitehousesiege-tactical-briefing-1

  91. @Thomas
    The epitome of media malevolence thus far this summer has been their conduct following the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson. It now appears that murder was a cold-blooded, premeditated ambush committed by a suspect lying in wait, and possibly acting in concert with others. Out of that, the press spun a tale that the death arose from a “clash between white nationalists and anti-racist protesters,” which insinuated that Jay may have provoked. That lie made its way out of Joe Biden’s mouth. The day the suspect was killed, Vice was working in concert with him to publicize his attempt at a patently fictitious self-defense claim. That’s as close as I’ve ever seen the press act as accessories after the fact to a murder in my lifetime.

    As far as possible solutions or outcomes might go, in Portland, the federal government and the Oregon State Police have hit on a partial solution to a feckless city government and an Antifa-friendly, Soros-backed DA by deputizing the staters as Special Deputy U.S. Marshals. This allows them to go after rioters for federal crimes which can be referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, bypassing the DA. Assaulting or obstructing a federal officer are two obvious and easy to make charges. Another advantage to this is Deputy Marshals are also empowered to act with the same jurisdictional authority as any local sheriff.

    (I recommended years ago in comments on this blog that in response to sanctuary cities, ICE should consider "poaching" away local cops and using their local knowledge and contacts from their old departments to undermine sanctuary policies. Looks like my idea manifested in a different context, but better late than never, I guess. If Trump is involved in any of these decisions about a response at all, I assume the timing will be whatever he calculates is most advantageous to his reelection bid.)

    Andy Ngo has claimed also that the FBI is finally actively pursuing Antifa in Portland now, presumably based in part on 3 months of surveillance data they have access to. I'll believe it when I see it, but he regularly shares Antifa mugshots and arrest reports, as well as local FBI arrest announcements. Again, the feds learned months ago when they were "vanning" rioters with BORTAC that it's a lot safer and easier to scoop up these scumbags away from the riots themselves. It's probably even easier if you serve warrants on them where they sleep. There are reports now though that Antifa has big tent camps set up in Portland as big de facto crash pads. Raiding those would probably be risky.

    More generally, it's starting to appear that city government in both Portland and Seattle may be losing effective control over their respective police departments. Both agencies have lost their sworn police chiefs to resignations since Floydmania began. I doubt any sworn officer really wants those jobs now. In Seattle, supposedly the decision to abandon the East Police Precinct (which led to the establishment of CHAZ/CHOP) wasn't made by either the mayor or the police chief, or at least nobody will cop to responsibility for that decision. Meaning that the decision to abandon a police precinct and kick off several weeks of lawlessness in the middle of the biggest city in the region was effectively a case of "subordinate compelling surrender," in the language of military law.

    Mayor Durkan and the Seattle city council are at loggerheads over defunding SPD. In Portland, Mayor Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, is being run out of his apartment building by rioters. PPB is effectively becoming a hot potato no elected official in Portland wants responsibility for... except Portland's one black city commissioner, a flaming radical who is on the side of the rioters and Antifa.

    It’s possible that police are starting to effectively become a semi-independent actor no longer seeing themselves as completely beholden to local politics. Being a cop in Seattle, Portland, or any city where BLM currently has the balance of power over policy is not a position with a terribly bright future as things stand. At a minimum, cops are mostly either going to want to retire or to get hired by another law enforcement agency that doesn’t answer to a psychotic mob as fast as they possibly can. Unless there are third options. As noted above, the federal and state governments are now starting to exercise creative workarounds to local control. There’s no telling what the local cops are saying either among themselves or across agencies, especially now, but it’s safe to say nobody who isn’t privy to those communications can know for sure.

    Leftists and Antifa sympathizers in both cities increasingly accuse police of sympathizing with right wingers who occasionally show up to rally. This is a hardy perennial of leftist gripes, that owes mostly to the fact that the police are normally not permitted to take political sides (which the leftists expect them to against “Nazis”), and that right wingers generally don’t damage property or attack anyone who doesn’t instigate an attack. But there may be increasingly a kernel of truth to this claim of sympathies. Police in Portland refused to intervene in a rally that turned into a fight several weeks ago between Antifa, Proud Boys, and various other right wing groups, and the police were accused by the press of holding back and letting Antifa get the business. Two right wing protesters (mistakenly identified as Proud Boys) in Salem (Oregon’s state capitol) this past weekend appear to have been treated gently and allowed to go free by State Police after initially being detained for whaling on some leftists. Right wingers too often assume that police will be on their side when push comes to shove, which is often a foolish assumption. But given circumstances right now, it might not be entirely without some justification.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cloudbuster, @countenance, @Harry Baldwin, @cynthia curran

    Yeah, the media has stats that state that right wing groups killed more than Antifa. In fact if Willaem Van Sporsen last year did blow up the Ice Facility it would have killed over 1,000 putting the left as a bigger threat than the neo-nazi groups, but Van Sporsen was stopped from killing anyone which makes the left looked better. I know of 3 deaths that Antifa or another left wing group did during the protest. The 2 at Chop/Chase in Seattle and the 1 in Portland. The FBI has a lot of Obama people plus an intelligent report mainly created by democrats blamed the boogaloo. As for Danielson, I don’t know if he was even armed. The left said that it was another Jay who praise a guy that killed 2 muslims in Portland 2 years ago, blaming the victim that he was out to killed Antfia or leftist and just got shot. The whole story line about the violent with the protests seems off. For example, a boogaloo member threated a health official which means boogaloo didn’t like the mask wearing. Most the rioters were wearing masks or scarves over their faces.

  92. @guest007
    @Steve Sailer

    Another reason for the collapse of cities in just not crime but the change in demographics and in work. Large factories downsized and moved to where they could function as compared to being inside the city limits of Chicago, New York, or Detroit. In addition, the cities skimped on maintenance in the 1960's and 1970's due to inflation, changing demographics, and the legacy of the New Deal.

    Replies: @cynthia curran

    Yeah, a lot of factories moved to the south. I know around here its blame more on NAFTA, but Michigan got have gotten the foreign car companies to set up plants like they did in several southern states like Alabama, South Carolina, Tn, Kentucky, Texas.

  93. @AndrewR
    @Dieter Kief

    Does anyone take it seriously? I assume it's just a money laundering scheme that doubles as a way for bad people to sadistically dunk on their enemies by appealing to the naked-emperor legitimacy of the NYT. "Wow just wow. Are you seriously implying that the Newspaper of Record might employ incompetent and/or unscrupulous people? I'm literally shaking rn"

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    My estimate is that roughly 1/3 of the German media’s US-coverage are retellings of the NYT. 1/6 is WaPo the rest CNN, CBS, and MSNBC, etc. and – maybe 1/100th own reporting.
    since maybe 1000th of them know who Eric Weinstein is, his saying bye bye to the NYT did make an imoression at least on parts of the happy few.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dieter Kief

    As Fred Trump might have tweeted:

    "Traurig!"

  94. @Dieter Kief
    @AndrewR

    My estimate is that roughly 1/3 of the German media's US-coverage are retellings of the NYT. 1/6 is WaPo the rest CNN, CBS, and MSNBC, etc. and - maybe 1/100th own reporting.
    since maybe 1000th of them know who Eric Weinstein is, his saying bye bye to the NYT did make an imoression at least on parts of the happy few.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    As Fred Trump might have tweeted:

    “Traurig!”

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