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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Equity: The New Equality
by Steve Sailer

January 27, 2021

Tuesday isn’t just for tacos anymore. Today was Joe Biden’s Equity Tuesday when he highlighted his administration’s extensive plans for upping racial “equity” by undermining the 14th Amendment’s promise of “equal protection of the laws.”

“Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve. Politicians who laud “equity” are, in effect, inevitably promising racial quotas at the expense of the careers of competent white men and their families.

Granted, America has already been doing exactly that for the 52 years of the Affirmative Action Era. But the Biden administration promises to do it harder, much harder.

For some years now, the buzzword “equity” has been oozing out of the lowbrow fever swamps of the Schools of Education, where it had emerged as the politically correct replacement for the time-honored but therefore now-problematic term “equality.”

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. Equity is how Hunter Biden got paying jobs on the board of directors of every company over which his father had political influence. Surely, Joe would like everyone’s kid to get the same deal.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Escher
    @Harry Baldwin

    That’s also how he got equity in those companies.

  2. Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)

    This is not really the case. “Equity” is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means “dividing things such that everyone gets their due.” As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: “It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise.”

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    • Thanks: Rob, Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @Intelligent Dasein

    dividing things such that everyone gets their due

    You understand that determining what everyone's due is incredibly complex and difficult? Both sides can't be bothered, so they shortcut this incredibly daunting and important set of moral questions, the left with social justice/wokeness dogma and the right with their "free" market fundamentalism. They're both insane and infantile.

    , @Polistra
    @Intelligent Dasein


    This is not really the case. “Equity” is not actually a very recondite concept.
     
    Oh shut up.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Turgid writing and strained displays of vocabulary will never gain you the intellectual equity you so palpably yearn for.

    Oh, excuse me, for which you so palpably yearn.

    Might I recommend tying the down-to-earth, folksy approach? It allows one to hide his shortcomings, whereas you have been standing there with your pants down for months.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @El Dato
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Now do "racist inter-group power differentials" which sounds like someone from the affirmative action humanities department had accidentally stumbled on a book of mechanical engineering.


    "microaggression is a form of oppression that reinforces existing power differentials between groups, whether or not this was the conscious intention of the offender".
     
    as Miss Yewande, a negro lady who otherwise culturally misappropriates smooth long hair and Prada bags, says as she is otherwise unhappy about racist name mispronounciation which are subject to the devastating homeopathic effects of microaggressions: The more minuscule they are the more devastating they become. Remember that when you say "black coffee" you are actually performing the Second Holocaust.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @James Speaks
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Equity = Gibs

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean."

    In New America, a word means whatever the Woke Overlords want it to mean, and they will enforce that meaning.

    , @Desiderius
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Sorry Chauncey, active voice makes meaning, passive receives, and all y’all are addicted to passive.

    , @anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Sure, because "mentioned more often" worked out so very well last year with regard to the difference between "riot" and "mostly peaceful protest". Didn't it? Where should it be "mentioned more often"? Facebook? Twitter? Instagram? CNN? NPR? Next time you need something to read, I suggest Sun Tzu.

    "Know the times"...

    Anyway, Current Year "equity" is just another version of a race-base spoils system with ... someone ... in the middle busy playing the role of "dispenser of the gibs". This isn't new, it's quite old. Empires have ruled with this method in various places and times, some for centuries.

    Marxism just left out one clause, that's all:

    "From each according to his means, to each according to his needs; with a nice little skim off the top for me and my pals who work very hard dealing out the goodies".

    , @Eagle Eye
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Brilliant line in Steve's piece:


    For some years now, the buzzword “equity” has been oozing out of the lowbrow fever swamps of the Schools of Education, where it had emerged as the politically correct replacement for the time-honored but therefore now-problematic term “equality.”
     
    Real teachers have substantive degrees in real subjects - math, history, biology, art, etc. Sadly, this simple principle has been leached clean from the brains of 95% of American parents through decades of MSM and Hollywood propaganda. Instead, school districts throughout the nation generally insist that principals and administrators be holders of "EdD" degrees in edumacation like Mrs. Joseph R. Biden.
  3. So here’s a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, ‘diverse’ folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
    @SFG

    Hasn't worked with Congress yet. The fossils keep getting elected. Also most of the old whites are Democrats. For all its faults GOP trends younger if that is what matters to you.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    Woke corporations, being corporations, still mostly care about the bottom line; so you are right, this might be a clever way of reducing costs while framing it in terms of 'justice and equity'.

    , @ben tillman
    @SFG


    So here’s a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.
     
    Expensive employees can be fired or asked to take a pay cut without any pretext of that sort.
    , @Desiderius
    @SFG

    New?

    , @Richard B
    @SFG

    The most expensive employees are the incompetent ones you can't fire.

    Woke Culture is a Bad Business Model.

  4. We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    • Agree: Old Prude, ben tillman
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains and tax capital gains like other forms of income and that would be 50% right there, without having to tax wealth.

    Replies: @Spud Boy, @Technite78

    , @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's so funny: this is an idea nearly the whole country could get behind. It would actually unite us in fact rather than in someone's imagination. But among a couple reasons it could never happen is that the entire MSM would rise as one against it, saying "it sounds on the surface" like a good idea, but it would be so disruptive, and when it comes to Disparate Impact, extremely anti-semitic. Non-starter.

    , @Muggles
    @JohnnyWalker123


    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.
     
    Since when is stealing someone else's 'wealth' a moral idea?

    You do realize that most billionaires (and even lesser) have their wealth tied up in shares, real estate, farms/ranches, operating businesses, etc. Why only 50%, why not 100% . Go full commie.

    This wealth isn't sitting in bank vaults in piles of cash, a la Scrooge McDuck.

    Since when is giving (or confiscating) money to the government a good idea to solve problems?

    They run massive deficits every year by borrowing money, creating it out of thin air. So how many problems are being solved? Seems like the opposite is often true.

    I guess you are advocating the Chairman Xi solution at 50%. "Take that Jack Ma!" Why not go for 90% in the Kim Jong Un solution? See, N. Korea has solved all of their problems. According to your theory anyway.

    If your comment was supposed to be satire, I apologize. These days such ideas are rarely floated in jest.

    , @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.
     
    More useful would be 1% financial transactions tax.

    One of the (many) things that has gone wrong in the United States is that the middle men rather than the producers are in charge, and have increasingly pushed policies that create looting opportunities for non-productive activity.

    We have a plethora of people making money in non-productive--what are supposed to be "support" activities; finance, law, lobbying, government--activities, taking a nice whack of the money that floats by.

    But all this non-productive glop must be supported by--comes at the expense of--productive activity or by selling off US assets to foreigners, or the Fed simply printing money both of which run down the future prosperity of Americans.

    Tax the bullshit activity and orient the US economy--capital and labor--back toward real production.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The trouble with this 50% tax on billionaires is that in almost all cases their theoretical wealth is in holdings of stock of companies that they have founded rather than in cash. If they were forced to sell half their stock, then they would in many case lose control of their own companies. Also, the forced sale of stock could lead to a massive fall in the value of the stock, and hence of the companies.

    Whether this would be a good thing or a bad thing, I will leave to others to decide.

    Replies: @Alden

  5. Equity is what we might get with new wage and hour laws (a family friendly six hour day with triple pay for overtime) combined with tariffs on labor-intensive low-skilled manufactured goods made in places like China, a moratorium of mass low-skilled immigration, a vast expansion of the earned income tax credit for all working Americans, and a progressive expenditure tax on the the biggest spenders in society.

    Equality of opportunity is not enough. What is wanted is a society in which anyone who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to leading a rich and fulfilling life regardless of intelligence.

    Even better, see my The Seventh Millennium: A Look at Life’s Possibilities in the New Age Before Us, which is available on Amazon. Very briefly, it is about the idea of factories in the countryside run on part-time jobs: the new lifestyle such factories would make possible, how they can be made to run at a profit (this is key!), and the new kinds of towns that might develop around them.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Luke Lea

    THE SEVENTH MILLENNIUM: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us Paperback – June 30, 2020
    by Luke Lea (Author)

    https://www.amazon.com/SEVENTH-MILLENNIUM-Lifes-Possibilities-Before/dp/1735316008

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Luke Lea

    The problem is that conservatives, even Steve unfortunately, are so desperate to be principled and consistent that in the name of the perfectly legitimate goal of preventing abuse of whites by blacks they end up justifying the abuse of normal whites by rich whites.

    Rich whites need normal whites, without them there incomes would collapse and their wealth would be destroyed by inflation. Whites don't need blacks. Without blacks, whites would be better off by almost every criteria. Two entirely different relationships!

    The far left is wrong about race and right about economics. The black-white and the normal white-rich white relationships are two entirely different things. Get over it.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Hibernian
    @Luke Lea

    Cottage industries. Back to the future. Kind of Andrew Yangish.

    , @Anon
    @Luke Lea

    Working hard and playing by the rules are both heritable personality traits. They are called conscientiousness (a Big 5 trait) and conformity by psychologists. Intelligence, conscientiousness, and conformity are the three traits that researchers say a college degree is a "signal" for.

    Why is intelligence a trait that can be ignored, while the equally unearned privileges of conscientiousness and conformity in your thinking trump everything and entitle their holders to a comfortable life? And is it really better to have employees who "work twice as hard" rather than just hiring a smart guy who gets the job done quickly and retrains himself when situations change without having to be closely monitored?

  6. • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @MEH 0910


    President Joe Biden spoke about his agenda to tackle racial inequity in America today.
     
    Good idea. It's about time somebody took the Asians and Jews down a peg. (That's what he's talking about, right?).

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @MEH 0910


    White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki held a press conference today. She was joined by Domestic Policy Advisor Susan Rice, who discussed Biden's plan to combat racial inequity.
     
    This is psickening. It psucks. They should be psacked.

    Unfortunately, they'd just be replaced by the Palmist President who inpstalled them.

    Who calls her "Paki".



    https://leculentrelesdeuxchaises.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/pschitt-soda.jpg
    , @guest007
    @MEH 0910

    The Democrats are talking about equity as a justification for race-based reparations to reward the most loyal Democratic Party voters while being able to call anyone who opposes reparations a racist/fascist/nazi.

  7. “She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”

    I read this in the voice Homer Simpson uses to talk to himself.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman, Polistra
  8. But then, apparently, a vast Biden-Harris Administration equity initiative elevates the entire crust of the earth. Now the black climber is finally at the starting place he should have been at if only he’d imitated the white guy.

    I feel dee urf
    Move
    Unda mah feets
    I feel da sky tumboolin’ down

    ~ Carole Kang ~

  9. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354177123393691649

    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354176040730587140

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Reg Cæsar, @guest007

    President Joe Biden spoke about his agenda to tackle racial inequity in America today.

    Good idea. It’s about time somebody took the Asians and Jews down a peg. (That’s what he’s talking about, right?).

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Hypnotoad666

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.
     
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.
     

    Replies: @photondancer, @Polistra, @Hypnotoad666, @Elmer T. Jones

  10. The USA,the United States of Apartheid. We’re becoming more like the Mother Country,except white men are the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Father O'Hara

    We’re becoming more like the Mother Country,except white men are the Palestinians.

    The Mother Country is chock-a-block with Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews?
    (While we're at it, the Arabs in Israel are treated quite agreeably. If they'd like to diminish their standard of living and civil rights, they have 20-odd Arab countries from which to chose).

  11. “Kamala’s cartoon depicts a black mountain climber as being too stupid to follow the trail to the cliff chosen by his smarter white partner”… Lol hilarious. Steve you’re the Reinhold Messner of pundits.

  12. What happens when the American Negroes are told that they have “zero equity” concerning the USA?

    • Replies: @Aardvark
    @newrouter

    Not "zero equity", it's "I ain't got no ekity".
    Example: If you want us to hep steal the next election we need mo' ekity.

  13. So! Just in time for a recall challenge, the governor of California is lifting lockdown restrictions! That means you can go outside!

  14. This whole equity thing is about brown people and ugly chicks, right? Free money for brown people and compliant eunuchs for even the ugliest girls. And a white woman for every brown guy, natch. And monetary consolation prizes when the latter prove impossible.

    Seems doable, I think we can legislate heaven on Earth. And since mankind recently discovered the cure for death – viz, masks and social distancing and rolling lockdowns and a gene-altering vax – now more than ever we need our eternal lives to be pleasant as possible.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    It’s more about money than sex. What the liberals will do for money when all the money producing White men are gone I don’t know.

    All the liberal White boomers I know are sooo puzzled their 30 year old White sons can’t get a job with their STEM degrees. They still vote democrat and so do the discriminated against sons,

  15. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354177123393691649

    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354176040730587140

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Reg Cæsar, @guest007

    White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki held a press conference today. She was joined by Domestic Policy Advisor Susan Rice, who discussed Biden’s plan to combat racial inequity.

    This is psickening. It psucks. They should be psacked.

    Unfortunately, they’d just be replaced by the Palmist President who inpstalled them.

    Who calls her “Paki”.

  16. @Hypnotoad666
    @MEH 0910


    President Joe Biden spoke about his agenda to tackle racial inequity in America today.
     
    Good idea. It's about time somebody took the Asians and Jews down a peg. (That's what he's talking about, right?).

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26

    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @MEH 0910

    Pacific Islanders? what did they (allegedly) do?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @Polistra
    @MEH 0910

    WTF. Did he say the part about how "this directive (like all other laws) doesn't apply to negroes" under his breath? Or does it no longer need saying.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @MEH 0910

    As long as he's only defending Asians and not those damn Chinese, it's all good.

    , @Elmer T. Jones
    @MEH 0910

    Vietnamese voted for Trump, in part because of violence perpetrated on them by blacks that was encouraged by Democrats.

  17. • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Neoconned


    Now Steinbeck….a noted liberal….is now a sexist and a racist…..

     

    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.


    Of Mice and Menses.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Rob McX

  18. #14 is a catastrophe. It’s a vague, lawyer’s dream.

    If we can’t take giant leaps forward, such as:

    • ridding ourselves of public education, or
    • tearing up the entire USC,

    Then we should at least take meaningful baby steps, such as repealing 14.

  19. • Replies: @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Misread 'mirage' as 'marriage' but that sorta works too.

    What are they down to now, around 22% or so?

  20. @Luke Lea
    Equity is what we might get with new wage and hour laws (a family friendly six hour day with triple pay for overtime) combined with tariffs on labor-intensive low-skilled manufactured goods made in places like China, a moratorium of mass low-skilled immigration, a vast expansion of the earned income tax credit for all working Americans, and a progressive expenditure tax on the the biggest spenders in society.

    Equality of opportunity is not enough. What is wanted is a society in which anyone who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to leading a rich and fulfilling life regardless of intelligence.

    Even better, see my The Seventh Millennium: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us, which is available on Amazon. Very briefly, it is about the idea of factories in the countryside run on part-time jobs: the new lifestyle such factories would make possible, how they can be made to run at a profit (this is key!), and the new kinds of towns that might develop around them.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hibernian, @Anon

    THE SEVENTH MILLENNIUM: A Look at Life’s Possibilities in the New Age Before Us Paperback – June 30, 2020
    by Luke Lea (Author)

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Steve Sailer

    Unavailable. No matter. Hey Steve, what was reaction to your article at Taki's? The comments section rag you, or mostly in agreement?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Equity seemingly sprang forth from philosopher John Rawls’s opus major A Theory of Justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society’s goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.

    The lowbrow activists took this and ran. But Rawls went on …

    What, then, could justify unequal distribution? Rawls argues that inequality is acceptable only if it is to the advantage of those who are worst-off.

    As a general, practically administratable policy, capitalism (i.e., defined as giving money to white people) makes life better for blacks. They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village.

    If you want to drill down to specific things like does Bill Gates having 400 square miles of farmland help blacks better than giving it to blacks, maybe you could make a case for taking it away from him. But if he had been subjected to that sort of scrutiny all his life, he never would have become a billionaire in the first place, and he never would have married a “Let’s save all the blackies!” shrew and put her in charge of a foundation with a lot of money.

    The next step in this Rawlsian equity wave will hit the fan with Paige Harden’s upcoming book, The Genetic Lottery, which makes the case that IQ is an unearned privilege.

    Success in our educational system is partially a result of genetic luck. No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which genetic variants he or she happens to inherit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.html

    This idea has been bubbling around in the academic virology lab for over 30 years and is about to escape from into the wild.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Anon

    "They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village"

    Not necessarily. African chiefs live pretty swell lives, from what I've read; made even better by gloating over how much worse the villagers have it. Better to be a cock on a dunghill than scrabbling in the dirt. I haven't read A Theory of Justice but I hope Rawls displays a better understanding of human nature than your excerpts indicate.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Anon

    , @Charles St. Charles
    @Anon


    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society’s goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.
     
    So the way to maximize your effort-to-reward ratio is to do nothing at all.
    , @Anonymouse
    @Anon

    Morality gone mad. Leads to vegetarianism. Would you change places with a cow or a worm or a dandelion? I have my genetic inheritance. I can't change it or give it to someone else, so how is it a moral issue?

    , @El Dato
    @Anon


    No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it.
     
    You don't "earn" it, you are it.

    That's going to lead to Pol-Potism really quickly.

    These imaginary unicorn societies apparently do not need to police themselves and never have resource or growth or war or violence problems. It's all like a bit forever birthday party. Everyone gets a piece of the shared cake.

    Then it turns out that nobody is capable of making a cake. Or possibly even conceiving of a cake. As replacement activity, they throw shit at each other.

    Then we hear moaning about the glorious 60'000 years of abo culture and cargo cults about wooden rocket based space programmes take hold. +1 for effort I guess.
  22. @Neoconned
    https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/26/girl-complains-to-school-after-of-mice-and-men-makes-her-feel-unsafe-13968007/?ito=push-notification&ci=71867&si=22143364

    Now Steinbeck....a noted liberal....is now a sexist and a racist.....

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Now Steinbeck….a noted liberal….is now a sexist and a racist…..

    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.

    Of Mice and Menses.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.

    Of Mice and Menses.
     
    This is the idiotic crap that gets approved on this blog. Anything that wastes the time of White men and distracts them from addressing the obvious anti-White agenda.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    She claims to feel unsafe because of a harmless novel- Of Mice and Mendacity, I'd say.

  23. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: In India, Modi just yanked the subsidy for small farmers. India has 126 million small farmers. A country will a small population and plenty of job openings could get away with this, but not India. No country with a big population at the subsistence level dares go full capitalist with the food supply, because if the entire small-farming sector goes belly-up, widespread starvation can result before the situation can stabilize itself again.

    If those farmers are forced off their land, there’s going to be 126 million head-of-household farming Indians and their families (with wife and approximately 2 kids a piece, that’s HALF A BILLION) people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they’ll head to the US and any other place that will take them.

    Modi’s making a serious attempt to annihilate all the poor people in India–the hard, nasty, meaner-than-Hitler way.

    Between Bonehead Biden and Moron Modi’s crisis, our largest minority population may soon be Indian instead of Hispanic. I’m willing to bet 5 bucks that Modi deliberately waited to do this until Biden had won office and had turned US policy pro-immigration again. Modi’s trying to make the US his dumpster for his own country’s problems.

    Even worse, Biden’s an idiot that Modi can play like pro. It’ll collapse our social welfare system if we let tens of millions of poverty stricken Indians flood in and make our unemployment problems unsolvable. Europe’s going to have another immigration crisis, too.

    Another reason why Modi did this: Kamala Harris is INDIAN. She won’t say no to large scale Indian immigration to this country.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Anon


    HALF A BILLION people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they’ll head to the US and any other place that will take them.
     
    As you say: lucky for them, we'll take them. And we'll love them! Half a billion gets us (quick math on cocktail napkin) halfway toward Matty Iglesias's dream of One Billion Third-World People in the USA!

    Our glorious future is in view! We might overshoot the mark, if 1) the gates stay open (they will) and 2) we permit some of the previous population to stay (we will, so long as they're POCs). Glorious, I tells you! Glorious!

    , @El Dato
    @Anon


    Riot police fired tear gas but were greatly outnumbered and eventually had to fall back, such were the overwhelming numbers of irate farmers and agricultural workers who eventually stormed the country’s historic Red Fort complex.
     
    As bluechecks would scream: SEDITION!
    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk. So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    There's a reason the US future is "Brazil" and not "India" or much worse "Nigeria".

    Replies: @anon, @Alden, @Anonymous

  24. “equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place.”

  25. “Equity” really is a clever word choice. The first definition in the dictionary talks about “fair and impartial”, but it’s the second definition that tells us what they’re after – ownership.

    The phrase I think of is “sweat equity“, which refers to effort of value put into a company or project. Blacks are obviously not willing to put in any effort, but why should they? They inherit equity from their slave ancestors.

    They’re coming for their piece of the American pie, no doubt. And if you think they’re after some sort of fair share, don’t be fooled – that’s where the first definition comes in. “Fair” in this case has connotations of justice – and traditional media and social media are telling us that it’s payback time. They got Biden elected, after all.

  26. Who’s gonna inform the black community that equality of outcome is impossible when your groups average IQ is 85? Gonna take a whole lotta equity to solve this problem. Lol

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @Just a regular guy

    The premise of the Equity ideology is that everyone on the planet has the same IQ and ability, and when there is unequal outcome, that is evidence of racism or injustice or whatever. It's amazing that such a demonstrably false premise is allowed to drive public policy. A sign of a sick society when so many people hold this premise.

    , @njguy73
    @Just a regular guy

    Make every test pass/fail, and make every test so easy that anyone who can fog a mirror can pass.

  27. No one has discussed the second way of making sure that everything is nice and equal – you can raise one group up, sure. But you can also cut the other group down, which is being accomplished all over our society, but especially in schools.

    White boys have been on the defensive for two generations. They’re penalized every single day they sit in a classroom with union teachers, who unfailingly promote the progressive Left party line. My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a “C” student. The woman who taught the class used every trick possible to get him this “C” grade, while simultaneously using the rest of her tricks to get an “A” for as many of the girls as possible.

    Fortunately, I intervened and long story short, he’s working on his math PhD. But many white boys never recover.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anon7


    My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a “C” student.
     
    Yeah, no one believes this.

    Replies: @Anon7

    , @J.Ross
    @Anon7

    I experienced multiple things like this, my parents actually pulled me out of the school system I was in because of it. Even before woke there were teachers with chips on their shoulders who would not accept a correct answer from a student they hated. I recall the opening of A League Of Their Own where the grandma does not advocate a free experiment or even chance, but instead skews the result based on an assumption of inferiority moderated by fake charity. That's the model here. Success doesn't matter, let X win (and Y lose) because of social justice.

    Replies: @Anon7

    , @Alden
    @Anon7

    Might be why a pair of boy girl twins the girl always has an A average and the boy a B average. But most of their high school teachers are men. The boys tested IQ is 12 points higher. But the girl does 3 times as much studying. Affirmative action in action.

    How can a teacher manipulate first grade math? Isn’t 1+1 = 2 anymore?

    Replies: @Anon7

  28. If we do become more collectivist would that cause anyone to pause over bringing in millions more immigrants to share the loot?

    Why would pirates want more greedy hands to share the plunder once they’ve already secured the booty?

    It’d be rational to stop, no more immigrant votes are needed. That is, unless there’s an anti-White agenda afoot that goes right down to attacking the DNA.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  29. @Luke Lea
    Equity is what we might get with new wage and hour laws (a family friendly six hour day with triple pay for overtime) combined with tariffs on labor-intensive low-skilled manufactured goods made in places like China, a moratorium of mass low-skilled immigration, a vast expansion of the earned income tax credit for all working Americans, and a progressive expenditure tax on the the biggest spenders in society.

    Equality of opportunity is not enough. What is wanted is a society in which anyone who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to leading a rich and fulfilling life regardless of intelligence.

    Even better, see my The Seventh Millennium: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us, which is available on Amazon. Very briefly, it is about the idea of factories in the countryside run on part-time jobs: the new lifestyle such factories would make possible, how they can be made to run at a profit (this is key!), and the new kinds of towns that might develop around them.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hibernian, @Anon

    The problem is that conservatives, even Steve unfortunately, are so desperate to be principled and consistent that in the name of the perfectly legitimate goal of preventing abuse of whites by blacks they end up justifying the abuse of normal whites by rich whites.

    Rich whites need normal whites, without them there incomes would collapse and their wealth would be destroyed by inflation. Whites don’t need blacks. Without blacks, whites would be better off by almost every criteria. Two entirely different relationships!

    The far left is wrong about race and right about economics. The black-white and the normal white-rich white relationships are two entirely different things. Get over it.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Guy De Champlagne

    "the abuse of normal whites by rich whites"

    The satanic corruption of American and European elites has become the center of gravity of the western world. Blacks are simply golems for these cartels. And the brown and black overclass they have generated, particularly in the United States, is the new management team for the gradual liquidation of middle and working class whitey. This is our reward for fighting and dying in their internecine wars; for building the economies from which they derive their fortunes; for spilling our metaphorical blood and guts on stage for their amusement. Their final mocking gesture comes when these inbred bloodline husks use our genetically healthy children in their rituals.

  30. Yes, Kamala’s voice is awfully “grating” in the video cartoon shown in the main article, but other times she affects school girl giggling. She may be testing which persona would be most useful in replacing the Idiot In Chief?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Dan Hayes

    Harris has this speaking habit..........where she halts..............between phrases.............in order to sound.....................serious.................and scolding.

    It's awful. I already hate hearing Harris speak even more than hearing Hillary Clinton speak, even given Hillary's ass-like bray.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  31. @Reg Cæsar
    @Neoconned


    Now Steinbeck….a noted liberal….is now a sexist and a racist…..

     

    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.


    Of Mice and Menses.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Rob McX

    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.

    Of Mice and Menses.

    This is the idiotic crap that gets approved on this blog. Anything that wastes the time of White men and distracts them from addressing the obvious anti-White agenda.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @RichardTaylor

    If I want to be bored, I'll go read Eric Stryker.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    It wasn't approved, it simply wasn't disapproved. If you want your comments to go through, try being less of a Chicken Little. It's embarrassing.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  32. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    dividing things such that everyone gets their due

    You understand that determining what everyone’s due is incredibly complex and difficult? Both sides can’t be bothered, so they shortcut this incredibly daunting and important set of moral questions, the left with social justice/wokeness dogma and the right with their “free” market fundamentalism. They’re both insane and infantile.

  33. Semi OT: Kurt Schilling isn’t going to be in the hall of fame this year. Probably not ever.

    Because politics. His politics are just not Woke, in fact they are Deplorable, so that’s that.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @anon

    He should have kept his mouth shut until he got elected, then said what he wanted.

    Worked for Steve Carlton.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

  34. @MEH 0910
    @Hypnotoad666

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.
     
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.
     

    Replies: @photondancer, @Polistra, @Hypnotoad666, @Elmer T. Jones

    Pacific Islanders? what did they (allegedly) do?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @photondancer


    Pacific Islanders? what did they (allegedly) do?
     
    Nothing. It's just another blood libel for Biden to smear whites with to cynically hold a coalition together.
  35. @JohnnyWalker123
    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Muggles, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason

    You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains and tax capital gains like other forms of income and that would be 50% right there, without having to tax wealth.

    • Replies: @Spud Boy
    @Guy De Champlagne

    "You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains.."

    Sounds totally workable. /s

    , @Technite78
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Taxing unrealized gains is unrealizable.

    By definition, an unrealized gain is the current market value of an asset subtracted by its cost basis.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    For those that it is relatively straightforward to determine unrealized gain (i.e. listed stocks, suburban homes, etc)... their value will drop precipitously relative to those that are easily manipulated.

    BTW, taxing gains (realized or unrealized) without adjusting for inflation *is* taxing wealth. And we already do that.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne

  36. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    This is not really the case. “Equity” is not actually a very recondite concept.

    Oh shut up.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • LOL: Charon
  37. Haven’t had time to construct anything except: Yes. Steve is right.

    “This.”

    Add my positive vote for Steve Sailer’s latest Taki’s article. I particularly like the climbing analogies, but no, I haven’t yet brought myself to watch the video.

    The “equity” thing is just as evil and obvious as Steve implies. He has been particularly right when he has said that it means they want the equity in your house.

  38. @JohnnyWalker123
    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Muggles, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason

    It’s so funny: this is an idea nearly the whole country could get behind. It would actually unite us in fact rather than in someone’s imagination. But among a couple reasons it could never happen is that the entire MSM would rise as one against it, saying “it sounds on the surface” like a good idea, but it would be so disruptive, and when it comes to Disparate Impact, extremely anti-semitic. Non-starter.

  39. OT: I thought this was an interesting podcast with Bret Weinstein interviewing a journalist who was right there in the Capitol with the rioters. It’s basically two open-minded, old-style liberals talking honestly about what was going on.

  40. @MEH 0910
    @Hypnotoad666

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.
     
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.
     

    Replies: @photondancer, @Polistra, @Hypnotoad666, @Elmer T. Jones

    WTF. Did he say the part about how “this directive (like all other laws) doesn’t apply to negroes” under his breath? Or does it no longer need saying.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Polistra

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Just imagine, if more incredibly creative and innovative… how much more creative and innovative we’d be if this nation held the historic black colleges and universities to the same opportunities and minority serving institutions that had the same funding and resources of public universities to compete for jobs and industries of the future.
     
    Biden sez that we as a nation are leaving Harriet Tubman $20 bills of black intellectual talent laying on the proverbial sidewalk.

    https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2016/03/harriet-tubman-20_2-e1459428962268.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Bob Lassiter

  41. @MEH 0910
    @Hypnotoad666

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.
     
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.
     

    Replies: @photondancer, @Polistra, @Hypnotoad666, @Elmer T. Jones

    As long as he’s only defending Asians and not those damn Chinese, it’s all good.

  42. @Dan Hayes
    Yes, Kamala’s voice is awfully “grating” in the video cartoon shown in the main article, but other times she affects school girl giggling. She may be testing which persona would be most useful in replacing the Idiot In Chief?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Harris has this speaking habit……….where she halts…………..between phrases………….in order to sound…………………serious……………..and scolding.

    It’s awful. I already hate hearing Harris speak even more than hearing Hillary Clinton speak, even given Hillary’s ass-like bray.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    I couldn't get myself to watch that video. Thanks for the short transcript of the part you wanted to point out, Steve. I may have never heard her speak yet. There's no reason it can't stay that way.

  43. Rob says:

    I kind of think the left’s push for total racial equality of outcome was baked into the cake of America. Don’t get me wrong, I think the (most of) the founders would be appalled at how America is and where we are going. They did not include a few paragraphs about ‘Congress shall not invite a number of aliens aliens equal to half the current population of the United States in order to swamp the labor supply, and ensure that Jews do not feel so frightened by whiteness.’ They did not include a ‘graph about how the President cannot pardon himself. On both these issues, and a million more, they thought that a government of free and responsible men would have a President who wanted to pardon himself. Nor did they think we would have a somewhat hostile, more intelligent tribe dominating the country.

    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’

    [MORE]

    Problem is, racial differences are real. Whether cultural or biological, black males seem programmed for the kind of small group warrior societies without the dominance of states that want to tax the human capital, so don’t want the workers murdering each other. In addition to the well-documented IQ gap, there are ‘assettiveness’ ‘egotism’ ‘physicality’… gaps. Coupled with a much stronger innate tendency to form small bands for mutual protection and force projection against other small bands, we call them ‘gangs,’ there is the fact that blacks do not consider the white power structure to be legitimate. Quite honestly, if I were black, I probably would not.

    Populations vary on every dimension it is possible for individuals to vary. In principle, two populations could get along swimmingly, from, ‘they farm, and we fish, and then we trade grain for fish. But we keep to our own kind” to, “let’s merge our peoples into one new ethnicity with little more than our family names to indicate our ethnic heritages”, as colonists from Western Europe merged into new American ethnicities from colonization to well, I guess it ended after WWII.

    It seems to me that American whites and American blacks are a terrible combination. We want such different lifestyles, and theirs is an undertow that pulls down on whites. It pulls harder the lower someone is in SES. Given the willingness to use violence, poorer reasoning ability, willingness to use violence, and hatred and disdain for whites, in individual encounters, blacks tend to have the upper hand. But whites cheat! We use our control of institutions to make police the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy. Individual white 7-11 clerks do not have to roust sketchy seeming ‘teens’ from their parking lots. The police do it for them. No one is really under the impression that police are there to protect blacks. Yet protect blacks they do. Yet even ‘productive’ and ‘civilized’ blacks tend to be connected to the undertow. They are their sons, cousins, and boyfriends. But when blacks vote as a bloc, they vote for DAs who will not enforce the laws. Ghettoes that looked bombed-out now will look post apocalyptic in a decade.

    As for cultural compatibility, look at it this way. You know how black men don’t amount to much by white standards of masculinity, being a provider for his family, raising his kids with his wife… well, we don’t amount to much by their standards of masculinity. As for femininity, I think that, excluding the posterior antecedent, white women are a supernormal stimulus for male blacks. To some women, the lean muscularity which is not exactly common in blacks, but much more common than in white men who are not chemically enhanced. Both races think athleticism is the sin qua non of masculinity, and the undertow is present in even the best colleges.

    It seems African blacks don’t have the same dislike and culture of never living up to the low expectations we have learned from experience. But the solution is unlikely to be importing more of the problem population.

    Separation is probably not possible. At least not in the sense of all the blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (or wherever) and being a New Azanisn nation. Blacks are too dependent on whites to want to be free. The dumbs live for free in prisons, or off their marginally or AA-employed girlfriends. The smart ones grift off of whites who really want to see blacks acting white. Remember the video a year or so back, of a black father taking care of his daughter’s nappy head? Everyone, white and black, liberal and conservative, everyone but hbd-types who are resigned, wants to see black men acting like adults.

    I guess white people think that blacks living like whites shows the objective superiority of our way of life. If it is universally appealing, it is good. But there is no culture that is appropriate for everyone. We just differ too much. Even if that were not so, whites (due to the culture of critique?) no longer have the cultural confidence to try to convert the heathens in our midst.

    The thing about reality, and hbd is reality, trying to make impossible things happen does not give a ‘invalid entry – please enter data within range xx-xx.’ It just results in consequences that you did not (?) intend. Integration brought crime and anti-white behavior, so white refugees fled to the burbs, where blacks were too poor and disorganized to follow, instead of happy, integrated neighborhoods. Affirmative action was supposed to lift blacks up. But the black IQ and personality trait distributions are different. Instead of pulling up other blacks, the AA blacks fled black communities and now live as strangers in a strange land, Whitopia, where AA can never go away, because what would those Oreos do without it?

    Integrating blacks into white suburbs won’t work out well. I don’t know how it will fail badly. But the white working and middle classes are much immisceratedfrom their 1970 heyday. Many will not be able to afford to flee. Very few whites are optimistic. Well, whites who have not been through four years of college propaganda. The whites who will have to deal with blacks are not optimistic in general. Hell, they trust the elite so little that they believe QAnon! There is no way they will react to the federal government shoving ghetto blacks onto them in a positive manner. They will look upon it as war – the beginning of their genocide. Or worse, large large chunks of the white non-college, and those who attended college but do not have the temperaments or intelligence for well paying jobs, will adopt the ghetto black culture, and we will lose a huge chunk of whites from civilization. Cuz yeah, behavior is driven by biology, but one can always act below one’s best.

    Perhaps the only upside of the Biden-era attempt to shove blacks in everything is that institutions are blackening themselves – the college-educated whites will be drinking their own poison. So perhaps things will not go as far downhill as they did in the 80’s. But America is much less white. We have less slack and less ability to put things right for whites.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Rob

    No, the thinking of numerous people was to send them back, and artificially lifting people up from tbe outside is thoroughly un-American.

    , @Just a regular guy
    @Rob

    Blacks need whites in order to have any semblance of civilization. White people don’t need Africans at all. This is the fundamental issue. Africans left to themselves and you get at best Jamaica. White people left to themselves create Norway.

    Replies: @Travis, @Stan Adams

    , @James Speaks
    @Rob


    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’
     
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."

    This has nothing to do with blacks. It means that the people of the colonies had the same rights to self-governance as people of other parts of the British Empire. It was all about representation and not at all about outcomes. In fact, the idea of a guaranteed outcome was antithetical to the meaning of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    The Pursuit of Happiness meant the right to fulfill a life worth living. The idea of a right to be happy in the modern sense was not even thought of. Happiness meant job, family, health and all of the other, substantive things mature individuals want. It had nothing to do with Nike sneakers.


    All men are created equal before the law. The laws that apply to blacks also apply to whites, except whites have lost the protection of these laws because wokesters have arrogated themselves to the class of aristocracy that the Constitution forbids.

    It is a trap to buy into the wokesters' propaganda. What they're doing to us now is they're stealing our right to the pursuit of happiness by demanding we forfeit the fruits of our labors, and they lie when they call that equity.

  44. Is it just me or was Kamala doing a sassy black voice, like a (butch) female Obama in Selma?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Whataboutery

    I think so, although I try not to listen to her much.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Whataboutery


    Is it just me or was Kamala doing a sassy black voice, like a (butch) female Obama in Selma?

     

    I was thinking just this; maybe it's her Howard U accent. It's extremely unlikely she grew up speaking like that.

    Her voice is unbearable; it may be even more annoying than Hilary's voice, which I had thought unsurpassable in its nasal whining.

  45. The Daffy Duck administration will henceforth be my mental appellation for that lot.

  46. @Steve Sailer
    @Luke Lea

    THE SEVENTH MILLENNIUM: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us Paperback – June 30, 2020
    by Luke Lea (Author)

    https://www.amazon.com/SEVENTH-MILLENNIUM-Lifes-Possibilities-Before/dp/1735316008

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    Unavailable. No matter. Hey Steve, what was reaction to your article at Taki’s? The comments section rag you, or mostly in agreement?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Takimag doesn't have commenting anymore, Jim. It's been 2 or 3 years.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jim Christian

  47. @Whataboutery
    Is it just me or was Kamala doing a sassy black voice, like a (butch) female Obama in Selma?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist

    I think so, although I try not to listen to her much.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Steve Sailer

    I’ve noticed that in her latest pictures she seems to be smiling a lot. I assume her handlers found a polite way to tell her about her Resting Bitch Face.

  48. @Whataboutery
    Is it just me or was Kamala doing a sassy black voice, like a (butch) female Obama in Selma?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Is it just me or was Kamala doing a sassy black voice, like a (butch) female Obama in Selma?

    I was thinking just this; maybe it’s her Howard U accent. It’s extremely unlikely she grew up speaking like that.

    Her voice is unbearable; it may be even more annoying than Hilary’s voice, which I had thought unsurpassable in its nasal whining.

  49. @Reg Cæsar
    @Neoconned


    Now Steinbeck….a noted liberal….is now a sexist and a racist…..

     

    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.


    Of Mice and Menses.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Rob McX

    She claims to feel unsafe because of a harmless novel- Of Mice and Mendacity, I’d say.

  50. Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve.

    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it’s impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we’re born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Rob McX


    Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.
     
    Well what do you know, that's precisely the plan! Only, 'equity' isn't really the goal. The goal is that famous boot stomping on your face. And no one can achieve that quite so effectively as government.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Rob McX


    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it’s impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we’re born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.
     
    Very well said Rob.

    There is zero doubt that a lot of people--and a much higher percentage of blacks--do indeed start out "in the hole". Basically because they have crappy parents.

    Our society can--through government--take reasonable measures to try and equalize opportunity through measures like universal education. But to really make everyone's opportunities equal requires an absolute--greater than North Korean level--kids-in-camp level of totalitarian dystopia, that ought to be an anathema to any free people.

    And then the video's big lie: Even if you managed to impose a totalitarian regime sufficient to start everyone at the same place ... not everyone is as good at climbing the mountain so we don't "all end up in the same place" regardless. That's the biggest source of "inequality"--crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but ... crappy genes!


    Any sane, mature, sensible society supports opportunity for all, but accepts that not all people get the same deal, nor end up in the same place ... because not all people same.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @Uncle Dan
    @Rob McX

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences. And even if these were taken into consideration, they would still diverge because of luck. You can try it with dice if you don’t believe me.

    Replies: @anon, @ziggurat

  51. @Rob
    I kind of think the left’s push for total racial equality of outcome was baked into the cake of America. Don’t get me wrong, I think the (most of) the founders would be appalled at how America is and where we are going. They did not include a few paragraphs about ‘Congress shall not invite a number of aliens aliens equal to half the current population of the United States in order to swamp the labor supply, and ensure that Jews do not feel so frightened by whiteness.’ They did not include a ‘graph about how the President cannot pardon himself. On both these issues, and a million more, they thought that a government of free and responsible men would have a President who wanted to pardon himself. Nor did they think we would have a somewhat hostile, more intelligent tribe dominating the country.

    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’

    Problem is, racial differences are real. Whether cultural or biological, black males seem programmed for the kind of small group warrior societies without the dominance of states that want to tax the human capital, so don’t want the workers murdering each other. In addition to the well-documented IQ gap, there are ‘assettiveness’ ‘egotism’ ‘physicality’... gaps. Coupled with a much stronger innate tendency to form small bands for mutual protection and force projection against other small bands, we call them ‘gangs,’ there is the fact that blacks do not consider the white power structure to be legitimate. Quite honestly, if I were black, I probably would not.

    Populations vary on every dimension it is possible for individuals to vary. In principle, two populations could get along swimmingly, from, ‘they farm, and we fish, and then we trade grain for fish. But we keep to our own kind” to, “let’s merge our peoples into one new ethnicity with little more than our family names to indicate our ethnic heritages”, as colonists from Western Europe merged into new American ethnicities from colonization to well, I guess it ended after WWII.

    It seems to me that American whites and American blacks are a terrible combination. We want such different lifestyles, and theirs is an undertow that pulls down on whites. It pulls harder the lower someone is in SES. Given the willingness to use violence, poorer reasoning ability, willingness to use violence, and hatred and disdain for whites, in individual encounters, blacks tend to have the upper hand. But whites cheat! We use our control of institutions to make police the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy. Individual white 7-11 clerks do not have to roust sketchy seeming ‘teens’ from their parking lots. The police do it for them. No one is really under the impression that police are there to protect blacks. Yet protect blacks they do. Yet even ‘productive’ and ‘civilized’ blacks tend to be connected to the undertow. They are their sons, cousins, and boyfriends. But when blacks vote as a bloc, they vote for DAs who will not enforce the laws. Ghettoes that looked bombed-out now will look post apocalyptic in a decade.

    As for cultural compatibility, look at it this way. You know how black men don’t amount to much by white standards of masculinity, being a provider for his family, raising his kids with his wife... well, we don’t amount to much by their standards of masculinity. As for femininity, I think that, excluding the posterior antecedent, white women are a supernormal stimulus for male blacks. To some women, the lean muscularity which is not exactly common in blacks, but much more common than in white men who are not chemically enhanced. Both races think athleticism is the sin qua non of masculinity, and the undertow is present in even the best colleges.

    It seems African blacks don’t have the same dislike and culture of never living up to the low expectations we have learned from experience. But the solution is unlikely to be importing more of the problem population.

    Separation is probably not possible. At least not in the sense of all the blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (or wherever) and being a New Azanisn nation. Blacks are too dependent on whites to want to be free. The dumbs live for free in prisons, or off their marginally or AA-employed girlfriends. The smart ones grift off of whites who really want to see blacks acting white. Remember the video a year or so back, of a black father taking care of his daughter’s nappy head? Everyone, white and black, liberal and conservative, everyone but hbd-types who are resigned, wants to see black men acting like adults.

    I guess white people think that blacks living like whites shows the objective superiority of our way of life. If it is universally appealing, it is good. But there is no culture that is appropriate for everyone. We just differ too much. Even if that were not so, whites (due to the culture of critique?) no longer have the cultural confidence to try to convert the heathens in our midst.

    The thing about reality, and hbd is reality, trying to make impossible things happen does not give a ‘invalid entry - please enter data within range xx-xx.’ It just results in consequences that you did not (?) intend. Integration brought crime and anti-white behavior, so white refugees fled to the burbs, where blacks were too poor and disorganized to follow, instead of happy, integrated neighborhoods. Affirmative action was supposed to lift blacks up. But the black IQ and personality trait distributions are different. Instead of pulling up other blacks, the AA blacks fled black communities and now live as strangers in a strange land, Whitopia, where AA can never go away, because what would those Oreos do without it?

    Integrating blacks into white suburbs won’t work out well. I don’t know how it will fail badly. But the white working and middle classes are much immisceratedfrom their 1970 heyday. Many will not be able to afford to flee. Very few whites are optimistic. Well, whites who have not been through four years of college propaganda. The whites who will have to deal with blacks are not optimistic in general. Hell, they trust the elite so little that they believe QAnon! There is no way they will react to the federal government shoving ghetto blacks onto them in a positive manner. They will look upon it as war - the beginning of their genocide. Or worse, large large chunks of the white non-college, and those who attended college but do not have the temperaments or intelligence for well paying jobs, will adopt the ghetto black culture, and we will lose a huge chunk of whites from civilization. Cuz yeah, behavior is driven by biology, but one can always act below one’s best.

    Perhaps the only upside of the Biden-era attempt to shove blacks in everything is that institutions are blackening themselves - the college-educated whites will be drinking their own poison. So perhaps things will not go as far downhill as they did in the 80’s. But America is much less white. We have less slack and less ability to put things right for whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Just a regular guy, @James Speaks

    No, the thinking of numerous people was to send them back, and artificially lifting people up from tbe outside is thoroughly un-American.

  52. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1354098912236212225

    Replies: @Polistra

    Misread ‘mirage’ as ‘marriage’ but that sorta works too.

    What are they down to now, around 22% or so?

  53. @Anon
    OT: In India, Modi just yanked the subsidy for small farmers. India has 126 million small farmers. A country will a small population and plenty of job openings could get away with this, but not India. No country with a big population at the subsistence level dares go full capitalist with the food supply, because if the entire small-farming sector goes belly-up, widespread starvation can result before the situation can stabilize itself again.

    If those farmers are forced off their land, there's going to be 126 million head-of-household farming Indians and their families (with wife and approximately 2 kids a piece, that's HALF A BILLION) people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they'll head to the US and any other place that will take them.

    Modi's making a serious attempt to annihilate all the poor people in India--the hard, nasty, meaner-than-Hitler way.

    Between Bonehead Biden and Moron Modi's crisis, our largest minority population may soon be Indian instead of Hispanic. I'm willing to bet 5 bucks that Modi deliberately waited to do this until Biden had won office and had turned US policy pro-immigration again. Modi's trying to make the US his dumpster for his own country's problems.

    Even worse, Biden's an idiot that Modi can play like pro. It'll collapse our social welfare system if we let tens of millions of poverty stricken Indians flood in and make our unemployment problems unsolvable. Europe's going to have another immigration crisis, too.

    Another reason why Modi did this: Kamala Harris is INDIAN. She won't say no to large scale Indian immigration to this country.

    Replies: @Polistra, @El Dato, @AnotherDad

    HALF A BILLION people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they’ll head to the US and any other place that will take them.

    As you say: lucky for them, we’ll take them. And we’ll love them! Half a billion gets us (quick math on cocktail napkin) halfway toward Matty Iglesias’s dream of One Billion Third-World People in the USA!

    Our glorious future is in view! We might overshoot the mark, if 1) the gates stay open (they will) and 2) we permit some of the previous population to stay (we will, so long as they’re POCs). Glorious, I tells you! Glorious!

  54. @Rob McX

    Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve.
     
    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it's impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we're born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people's private lives from birth onwards.

    Replies: @Polistra, @AnotherDad, @Uncle Dan

    Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.

    Well what do you know, that’s precisely the plan! Only, ‘equity’ isn’t really the goal. The goal is that famous boot stomping on your face. And no one can achieve that quite so effectively as government.

  55. @Anon
    Equity seemingly sprang forth from philosopher John Rawls's opus major A Theory of Justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society's goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.
     
    The lowbrow activists took this and ran. But Rawls went on ...

    What, then, could justify unequal distribution? Rawls argues that inequality is acceptable only if it is to the advantage of those who are worst-off.
     
    As a general, practically administratable policy, capitalism (i.e., defined as giving money to white people) makes life better for blacks. They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village.

    If you want to drill down to specific things like does Bill Gates having 400 square miles of farmland help blacks better than giving it to blacks, maybe you could make a case for taking it away from him. But if he had been subjected to that sort of scrutiny all his life, he never would have become a billionaire in the first place, and he never would have married a "Let's save all the blackies!" shrew and put her in charge of a foundation with a lot of money.

    The next step in this Rawlsian equity wave will hit the fan with Paige Harden's upcoming book, The Genetic Lottery, which makes the case that IQ is an unearned privilege.

    Success in our educational system is partially a result of genetic luck. No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which genetic variants he or she happens to inherit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.html
     
    This idea has been bubbling around in the academic virology lab for over 30 years and is about to escape from into the wild.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Charles St. Charles, @Anonymouse, @El Dato

    “They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village”

    Not necessarily. African chiefs live pretty swell lives, from what I’ve read; made even better by gloating over how much worse the villagers have it. Better to be a cock on a dunghill than scrabbling in the dirt. I haven’t read A Theory of Justice but I hope Rawls displays a better understanding of human nature than your excerpts indicate.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @photondancer

    John Rawls did not know too much about real-life outside of academia. He is a formalist, not a realist.


    This is maybe his most deceptive idea:

    "Justice is the first virtue of social institutions."

    , @Anon
    @photondancer

    As a young man Rawls was one of MacArthur's nation builders in Japan after the war, trying to set things up so the Japanese would abandon their moral depravity (as the American saw it). Although Americans like to think that Japan was a big, in general they ignored most of the stuff forced on them. For instance, the have a full-time blown army, navy, and air force, prohibited by the American-written constitution (although we now approve of their military), and Article 29 giving the national government the right of enminent domain is hardly ever used, resulting in a farm and a shrine in the middle of a runway at Narita international.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  56. @Luke Lea
    Equity is what we might get with new wage and hour laws (a family friendly six hour day with triple pay for overtime) combined with tariffs on labor-intensive low-skilled manufactured goods made in places like China, a moratorium of mass low-skilled immigration, a vast expansion of the earned income tax credit for all working Americans, and a progressive expenditure tax on the the biggest spenders in society.

    Equality of opportunity is not enough. What is wanted is a society in which anyone who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to leading a rich and fulfilling life regardless of intelligence.

    Even better, see my The Seventh Millennium: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us, which is available on Amazon. Very briefly, it is about the idea of factories in the countryside run on part-time jobs: the new lifestyle such factories would make possible, how they can be made to run at a profit (this is key!), and the new kinds of towns that might develop around them.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hibernian, @Anon

    Cottage industries. Back to the future. Kind of Andrew Yangish.

  57. Steve, why a ‘gay’ sunset?
    – or do you mean ‘gay’ in its original, true sense meaning ‘happy’?

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Anonymous

    Yea, Steve, you seem uncharacteristically snarky about the video and the cartoon. Who peed in your cereal?

    Look the entire justification is a ruse, so why pick on the production value of propaganda? Just call it out as a scam to get honky's money.

  58. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact is that ‘division of labor’ is basically the be all and end all of ‘production’, and thus any kind of human existence above and beyond grubbing at roots – let alone having an iPad in your paw.
    ‘Division of labor’ implicitly means ‘hierarchy’, ‘hierarchy’ by definition means inequality.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  59. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.

    Of Mice and Menses.
     
    This is the idiotic crap that gets approved on this blog. Anything that wastes the time of White men and distracts them from addressing the obvious anti-White agenda.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Reg Cæsar

    If I want to be bored, I’ll go read Eric Stryker.

  60. Since equality did not work perfectly well, something new is needed. New is always better when society is looking out for a miracle to happen. And the newest linguistic improvement is now equity.

    (In reality, not much can – and will – change. Not least since the necessary changes would imply personal improvement – – something rather complex to understand – and achieve).

  61. @Rob
    I kind of think the left’s push for total racial equality of outcome was baked into the cake of America. Don’t get me wrong, I think the (most of) the founders would be appalled at how America is and where we are going. They did not include a few paragraphs about ‘Congress shall not invite a number of aliens aliens equal to half the current population of the United States in order to swamp the labor supply, and ensure that Jews do not feel so frightened by whiteness.’ They did not include a ‘graph about how the President cannot pardon himself. On both these issues, and a million more, they thought that a government of free and responsible men would have a President who wanted to pardon himself. Nor did they think we would have a somewhat hostile, more intelligent tribe dominating the country.

    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’

    Problem is, racial differences are real. Whether cultural or biological, black males seem programmed for the kind of small group warrior societies without the dominance of states that want to tax the human capital, so don’t want the workers murdering each other. In addition to the well-documented IQ gap, there are ‘assettiveness’ ‘egotism’ ‘physicality’... gaps. Coupled with a much stronger innate tendency to form small bands for mutual protection and force projection against other small bands, we call them ‘gangs,’ there is the fact that blacks do not consider the white power structure to be legitimate. Quite honestly, if I were black, I probably would not.

    Populations vary on every dimension it is possible for individuals to vary. In principle, two populations could get along swimmingly, from, ‘they farm, and we fish, and then we trade grain for fish. But we keep to our own kind” to, “let’s merge our peoples into one new ethnicity with little more than our family names to indicate our ethnic heritages”, as colonists from Western Europe merged into new American ethnicities from colonization to well, I guess it ended after WWII.

    It seems to me that American whites and American blacks are a terrible combination. We want such different lifestyles, and theirs is an undertow that pulls down on whites. It pulls harder the lower someone is in SES. Given the willingness to use violence, poorer reasoning ability, willingness to use violence, and hatred and disdain for whites, in individual encounters, blacks tend to have the upper hand. But whites cheat! We use our control of institutions to make police the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy. Individual white 7-11 clerks do not have to roust sketchy seeming ‘teens’ from their parking lots. The police do it for them. No one is really under the impression that police are there to protect blacks. Yet protect blacks they do. Yet even ‘productive’ and ‘civilized’ blacks tend to be connected to the undertow. They are their sons, cousins, and boyfriends. But when blacks vote as a bloc, they vote for DAs who will not enforce the laws. Ghettoes that looked bombed-out now will look post apocalyptic in a decade.

    As for cultural compatibility, look at it this way. You know how black men don’t amount to much by white standards of masculinity, being a provider for his family, raising his kids with his wife... well, we don’t amount to much by their standards of masculinity. As for femininity, I think that, excluding the posterior antecedent, white women are a supernormal stimulus for male blacks. To some women, the lean muscularity which is not exactly common in blacks, but much more common than in white men who are not chemically enhanced. Both races think athleticism is the sin qua non of masculinity, and the undertow is present in even the best colleges.

    It seems African blacks don’t have the same dislike and culture of never living up to the low expectations we have learned from experience. But the solution is unlikely to be importing more of the problem population.

    Separation is probably not possible. At least not in the sense of all the blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (or wherever) and being a New Azanisn nation. Blacks are too dependent on whites to want to be free. The dumbs live for free in prisons, or off their marginally or AA-employed girlfriends. The smart ones grift off of whites who really want to see blacks acting white. Remember the video a year or so back, of a black father taking care of his daughter’s nappy head? Everyone, white and black, liberal and conservative, everyone but hbd-types who are resigned, wants to see black men acting like adults.

    I guess white people think that blacks living like whites shows the objective superiority of our way of life. If it is universally appealing, it is good. But there is no culture that is appropriate for everyone. We just differ too much. Even if that were not so, whites (due to the culture of critique?) no longer have the cultural confidence to try to convert the heathens in our midst.

    The thing about reality, and hbd is reality, trying to make impossible things happen does not give a ‘invalid entry - please enter data within range xx-xx.’ It just results in consequences that you did not (?) intend. Integration brought crime and anti-white behavior, so white refugees fled to the burbs, where blacks were too poor and disorganized to follow, instead of happy, integrated neighborhoods. Affirmative action was supposed to lift blacks up. But the black IQ and personality trait distributions are different. Instead of pulling up other blacks, the AA blacks fled black communities and now live as strangers in a strange land, Whitopia, where AA can never go away, because what would those Oreos do without it?

    Integrating blacks into white suburbs won’t work out well. I don’t know how it will fail badly. But the white working and middle classes are much immisceratedfrom their 1970 heyday. Many will not be able to afford to flee. Very few whites are optimistic. Well, whites who have not been through four years of college propaganda. The whites who will have to deal with blacks are not optimistic in general. Hell, they trust the elite so little that they believe QAnon! There is no way they will react to the federal government shoving ghetto blacks onto them in a positive manner. They will look upon it as war - the beginning of their genocide. Or worse, large large chunks of the white non-college, and those who attended college but do not have the temperaments or intelligence for well paying jobs, will adopt the ghetto black culture, and we will lose a huge chunk of whites from civilization. Cuz yeah, behavior is driven by biology, but one can always act below one’s best.

    Perhaps the only upside of the Biden-era attempt to shove blacks in everything is that institutions are blackening themselves - the college-educated whites will be drinking their own poison. So perhaps things will not go as far downhill as they did in the 80’s. But America is much less white. We have less slack and less ability to put things right for whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Just a regular guy, @James Speaks

    Blacks need whites in order to have any semblance of civilization. White people don’t need Africans at all. This is the fundamental issue. Africans left to themselves and you get at best Jamaica. White people left to themselves create Norway.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Just a regular guy

    True enough.

    How will Blacks do in America when we are 45% White, 30% Hispanic, 10% Asian and 15% Black ? This will be the demographics of America in 25 years, But this will be the demographics of the under 45 population in about 10 years.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Just a regular guy

    Nords create Norway; Meds create Italy; Slavs create Russia.

  62. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Turgid writing and strained displays of vocabulary will never gain you the intellectual equity you so palpably yearn for.

    Oh, excuse me, for which you so palpably yearn.

    Might I recommend tying the down-to-earth, folksy approach? It allows one to hide his shortcomings, whereas you have been standing there with your pants down for months.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Uh, wats turgid mean?

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "It allows one to hide his shortcomings"

    My method is to post a one hundred word treatise on the horror of mayonnaise or something else equally meaningless. I fool myself into believing a rhetorical smokescreen will cloud the reality of my tiny Irish penis. Although the Nine Steves bit is based on fact.

  63. Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    In the United States you see beggars standing (or sitting) at traffic lights holding up signs saying “unemployed veteran homeless God Bless” or approaching people at gas stations asking for cash or gasoline.

    In Ecuador, where I am in present time, even the unemployed and homeless want to be entrepreneurs.

    Jugglers, hoola-hoopers, and flag-dancers perform at traffic lights.

    I know a woman who is unemployed pharmacy manager, who is getting by by selling bottled water in the street to thirsty motorists or pedestrians.

    Handicapped people sell various products to passengers on buses.

    At New Year in Manta I was waiting to cross the road with a bottle of juice in my hand, and a woman stopped her car rolled down the window, and offered me $0.50 for the juice.

    In the market places there are people standing around selling every product imaginable. A guy with a large bucket of iced orange juice does a good trade at 50 cents a cup, while on the other side of his intersection a competitoris selling coconut juice.

    At the bus station in Guayaquil there are over 100 departure gates, and each one has its own snack vending hut eking out a living.

    Meanwhile in the US all kinds of rules and regulations make it almost impossible for people to support themselves and make a living doing even the most basic things.

    Just setting up a place to sell hamburgers could require over a million dollars by the time you factor in the need to provide handicap parking spaces for each hamburger stand, and workers comp for any employees, men’s and women’s bathrooms, a drive-in window, health insurance for employees,and so on.

    So it is hardly a coincidence that most hamburger places, the most humble of businesses, are run by multinational corporations.

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg’s family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald’s franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    If the sale of hamburgers is so profitable, wouldn’t you think everybody would be doing it and competing to build a better burger?

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Jonathan Mason

    I get your point but your examples seem a mite strained. For instance, the entrepreneurial spirit you admire is dependent upon customers willing to drink orange juice from a bucket that is standing out in the sun and traffic fumes for hours. With regard to burgers, down under you can buy hamburgers from numerous small outlets selling hot food , none of which have drive in windows, bathrooms, customer parking etc. The burgers are nearly always better than any produced by a franchise too.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Pericles
    @Jonathan Mason



    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

     

    Formerly known as 'equality of opportunity' but that's certainly not what 'equity' means.
    , @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg’s family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald’s franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?
     
    I don't really like to go overboard ragging on really successful American companies that walk all over the competition internationally. You have to have a certain pride, or at least a love-hate feeling. And I have a soft spot for McDonald's, the normal hamburger, with fries, and a Coke. I think there is room for different types of hamburgers. McDonalds is the same type of burger you got at the beach hamburger stands in the 1960s.

    And how the heck is McDonald's overpriced?

    The food is what it is and is just fine. I particularly get annoyed at people who think it's not healthy. Some white bread, some beef, some condiments, potatoes, cooking oil. Once it's in your stomach, your body doesn't know the difference between the protein, fat, carbohydrate, salt, vitimins, and minerals from fast food or from higher end restaurant food. Just keep things in balance. Every meal doesn't have to be perfectly balanced. If over a couple weeks you get a moderate amount of everything, including calories, you'll be fine.

    Personally I would not want to run a McDonalds franchise because I would enjoy the creative side of thinking up the product and promoting it, rather than just the administrative side of hiring people and keeping things running efficiently.

    I've thought it would be a good strategy to get a McDonalds franchise, then change the product to something more interesting, maybe turn it into something closer to In-N-Out. Maybe read Grinding it Out and try to recreate the 1950s McDonalds. McDonalds would come down on you like a ton of bricks, maybe even sue you immediately. They eventually figured out how to run the pre-Kroc franchise in Southern California out of business. But you could milk it for the publicity, then at the right moment dump the franchise and switch to your original new branding, which you had prepared in advance, with the signage already made. Maybe open a second location immediately.

    I just now remembered the golden arches McDonald's of my youth on La Cienega in Los Angeles: Take out windows only. A few concrete tables and benches. But most people eating in their cars. French fries under the seats every time you cleaned the car interior. This is how we eat now in CoronaTimes. Maybe the old McDonalds is the new McDonalds
    , @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Handicapped parking is just a sign on a couple of the regular parking spaces. You’re right that a Macdonald’s and it’s nasty food or a 7-11 and it’s nasty customers and lottery tickets makes a high income.
    But it’s just stupid to ignore economic reality that 7-11 owners make more money selling lottery tickets and over priced malt liquor to bums than highly allegedly educated people do in whatever they do from useful like engineers to affirmative action HR make work fake jobs.

  64. @Jonathan Mason
    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    In the United States you see beggars standing (or sitting) at traffic lights holding up signs saying "unemployed veteran homeless God Bless" or approaching people at gas stations asking for cash or gasoline.

    In Ecuador, where I am in present time, even the unemployed and homeless want to be entrepreneurs.

    Jugglers, hoola-hoopers, and flag-dancers perform at traffic lights.

    I know a woman who is unemployed pharmacy manager, who is getting by by selling bottled water in the street to thirsty motorists or pedestrians.

    Handicapped people sell various products to passengers on buses.

    At New Year in Manta I was waiting to cross the road with a bottle of juice in my hand, and a woman stopped her car rolled down the window, and offered me $0.50 for the juice.

    In the market places there are people standing around selling every product imaginable. A guy with a large bucket of iced orange juice does a good trade at 50 cents a cup, while on the other side of his intersection a competitoris selling coconut juice.

    At the bus station in Guayaquil there are over 100 departure gates, and each one has its own snack vending hut eking out a living.

    Meanwhile in the US all kinds of rules and regulations make it almost impossible for people to support themselves and make a living doing even the most basic things.

    Just setting up a place to sell hamburgers could require over a million dollars by the time you factor in the need to provide handicap parking spaces for each hamburger stand, and workers comp for any employees, men's and women's bathrooms, a drive-in window, health insurance for employees,and so on.

    So it is hardly a coincidence that most hamburger places, the most humble of businesses, are run by multinational corporations.

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg's family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald's franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    If the sale of hamburgers is so profitable, wouldn't you think everybody would be doing it and competing to build a better burger?

    Replies: @photondancer, @Pericles, @Anon, @Alden

    I get your point but your examples seem a mite strained. For instance, the entrepreneurial spirit you admire is dependent upon customers willing to drink orange juice from a bucket that is standing out in the sun and traffic fumes for hours. With regard to burgers, down under you can buy hamburgers from numerous small outlets selling hot food , none of which have drive in windows, bathrooms, customer parking etc. The burgers are nearly always better than any produced by a franchise too.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @photondancer

    Well those might not be the best examples, but take for example in the nearby city of La Libertad there is an indoor market where there must be at least 20 stores selling cell phones and related paraphernalia.

    And within a range of 200 or 300 yards, there must be at least 20 shoe stores.

    All of these are basically one person businesses, or family businesses. They cannot be terribly profitable, but the cost of entry must be extremely low.

    It would be nice to have a United States where any unemployed person would immediately be asking themselves what business can I open, and what can I sell?

    But I believe one of the main barriers to that in the United States is that the cost of entry into any kind of business is very high and that the cost of living and rent and mortgage payments are very high, so that many one person businesses would be insufficiently profitable to keep a family afloat.

    But since a great deal of rental housing is owned by wealthy corporations, and real estate developers make huge profits, it seems only reasonable that the wealthy and those who make high wages should contribute more to the common good

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Intelligent Dasein, @Alden

  65. @photondancer
    @Anon

    "They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village"

    Not necessarily. African chiefs live pretty swell lives, from what I've read; made even better by gloating over how much worse the villagers have it. Better to be a cock on a dunghill than scrabbling in the dirt. I haven't read A Theory of Justice but I hope Rawls displays a better understanding of human nature than your excerpts indicate.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Anon

    John Rawls did not know too much about real-life outside of academia. He is a formalist, not a realist.

    This is maybe his most deceptive idea:

    “Justice is the first virtue of social institutions.”

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  66. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Now do “racist inter-group power differentials” which sounds like someone from the affirmative action humanities department had accidentally stumbled on a book of mechanical engineering.

    “microaggression is a form of oppression that reinforces existing power differentials between groups, whether or not this was the conscious intention of the offender”.

    as Miss Yewande, a negro lady who otherwise culturally misappropriates smooth long hair and Prada bags, says as she is otherwise unhappy about racist name mispronounciation which are subject to the devastating homeopathic effects of microaggressions: The more minuscule they are the more devastating they become. Remember that when you say “black coffee” you are actually performing the Second Holocaust.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @El Dato

    I wish someone would have the guts to challenge the Yewandes of this world with a list of some of the longer Indian, Thai or Inuit names out there, and get aggressive with her about her racism when she pronounces every one of them wrong (as she undoubtedly will).

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  67. @Steve Sailer
    @Whataboutery

    I think so, although I try not to listen to her much.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    I’ve noticed that in her latest pictures she seems to be smiling a lot. I assume her handlers found a polite way to tell her about her Resting Bitch Face.

  68. @Jonathan Mason
    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    In the United States you see beggars standing (or sitting) at traffic lights holding up signs saying "unemployed veteran homeless God Bless" or approaching people at gas stations asking for cash or gasoline.

    In Ecuador, where I am in present time, even the unemployed and homeless want to be entrepreneurs.

    Jugglers, hoola-hoopers, and flag-dancers perform at traffic lights.

    I know a woman who is unemployed pharmacy manager, who is getting by by selling bottled water in the street to thirsty motorists or pedestrians.

    Handicapped people sell various products to passengers on buses.

    At New Year in Manta I was waiting to cross the road with a bottle of juice in my hand, and a woman stopped her car rolled down the window, and offered me $0.50 for the juice.

    In the market places there are people standing around selling every product imaginable. A guy with a large bucket of iced orange juice does a good trade at 50 cents a cup, while on the other side of his intersection a competitoris selling coconut juice.

    At the bus station in Guayaquil there are over 100 departure gates, and each one has its own snack vending hut eking out a living.

    Meanwhile in the US all kinds of rules and regulations make it almost impossible for people to support themselves and make a living doing even the most basic things.

    Just setting up a place to sell hamburgers could require over a million dollars by the time you factor in the need to provide handicap parking spaces for each hamburger stand, and workers comp for any employees, men's and women's bathrooms, a drive-in window, health insurance for employees,and so on.

    So it is hardly a coincidence that most hamburger places, the most humble of businesses, are run by multinational corporations.

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg's family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald's franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    If the sale of hamburgers is so profitable, wouldn't you think everybody would be doing it and competing to build a better burger?

    Replies: @photondancer, @Pericles, @Anon, @Alden

    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    Formerly known as ‘equality of opportunity’ but that’s certainly not what ‘equity’ means.

  69. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Equity = Gibs

  70. @Jim Christian
    @Steve Sailer

    Unavailable. No matter. Hey Steve, what was reaction to your article at Taki's? The comments section rag you, or mostly in agreement?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore, Jim. It’s been 2 or 3 years.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore
    That’s a shame the “First” contest was always very amusing.

    , @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore, Jim. It’s been 2 or 3 years.
     
    Behind the paywall they do, no? Takimag sports a come -on to a twelve dollar subscription by way of their "World Famous Comments Section". Or used to. Taki's daughter runs the thing and censors harder than a schoolmarm. So the story was a couple years back.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  71. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @photondancer
    @Anon

    "They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village"

    Not necessarily. African chiefs live pretty swell lives, from what I've read; made even better by gloating over how much worse the villagers have it. Better to be a cock on a dunghill than scrabbling in the dirt. I haven't read A Theory of Justice but I hope Rawls displays a better understanding of human nature than your excerpts indicate.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Anon

    As a young man Rawls was one of MacArthur’s nation builders in Japan after the war, trying to set things up so the Japanese would abandon their moral depravity (as the American saw it). Although Americans like to think that Japan was a big, in general they ignored most of the stuff forced on them. For instance, the have a full-time blown army, navy, and air force, prohibited by the American-written constitution (although we now approve of their military), and Article 29 giving the national government the right of enminent domain is hardly ever used, resulting in a farm and a shrine in the middle of a runway at Narita international.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anon

    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They're called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

    Replies: @Anon

  72. The equity cartoon I saw showed the ballpark fence torn down. No discussion as to why the fence was there in the first place.

    The cartoon unwittingly nails the truth: Biology makes some short/lazy/dim, and others tall/industrious/bright. Whatcha gonna do about biology?

  73. @Mr. Anon
    @Dan Hayes

    Harris has this speaking habit..........where she halts..............between phrases.............in order to sound.....................serious.................and scolding.

    It's awful. I already hate hearing Harris speak even more than hearing Hillary Clinton speak, even given Hillary's ass-like bray.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I couldn’t get myself to watch that video. Thanks for the short transcript of the part you wanted to point out, Steve. I may have never heard her speak yet. There’s no reason it can’t stay that way.

  74. Republicans have been trained to denounce this as “Marxism,” but it’s actually Kendiism, the ideology of the enterprising capitalist/antiwhite racist Ibram X. Kendi, who has made a fortune lecturing that any racial inequality in performance is proof of inequity.

    But it’s safer for whites to sputter against Marxism than to deny Kendiism. Who dares tell Professor Kendi that the main reason in 2021 that blacks tend to perform poorly on many measures is not white racism?

    I’m no fad of this Ibram Kendi, believe me, but I don’t agree with this “sputtering” against Marxism line. What is not Marxist about what these people are demanding with their equity talk – “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his means?” It’s just that it’s being demanded on a group basis now, instead of an individual basis.

    Racial Marxism: “From each group according to its abilities, to each group according to its means.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Needs, not means but otherwise I agree with you. Needs, as in "we need our weaves".

    On a group basis, whites have more abilities so they have to give more, and blacks have more needs so they have to receive more. That's equitable, right?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oops, too sleepy! Thank you, Jack D.

    Racial Marxism: "From each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its needs." It's the new, new Communism. Enjoy, suckers!

    By suckers, I mean people like Jonathan Mason. I could have written back to explain how the damn Socialist policies he pushes - in conservative NE Florida, no less! - are the causes for the problems he discusses, with more Socialist solutions proposed to fix those, of course.

    Jonathan, stay in Ecuador, please. You can then feel comfortable as a double-ex-pat, criticizing everything wrong here that you never did a damn thing to help do something about, from afar. You can be the next Fred Reed. Enjoy the fresh orange juice.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Mr Mox
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I vaguely remember a cartoon from an old Punch magazine.

    A Marxist and a Capitalist are arguing:

    Capitalist:
    "So you say I should share my fortune with you. But what if I did, and you just spend your half?"

    Marxist:
    "That's easy! We just split your fortune again."

  75. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Luke Lea
    Equity is what we might get with new wage and hour laws (a family friendly six hour day with triple pay for overtime) combined with tariffs on labor-intensive low-skilled manufactured goods made in places like China, a moratorium of mass low-skilled immigration, a vast expansion of the earned income tax credit for all working Americans, and a progressive expenditure tax on the the biggest spenders in society.

    Equality of opportunity is not enough. What is wanted is a society in which anyone who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to leading a rich and fulfilling life regardless of intelligence.

    Even better, see my The Seventh Millennium: A Look at Life's Possibilities in the New Age Before Us, which is available on Amazon. Very briefly, it is about the idea of factories in the countryside run on part-time jobs: the new lifestyle such factories would make possible, how they can be made to run at a profit (this is key!), and the new kinds of towns that might develop around them.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hibernian, @Anon

    Working hard and playing by the rules are both heritable personality traits. They are called conscientiousness (a Big 5 trait) and conformity by psychologists. Intelligence, conscientiousness, and conformity are the three traits that researchers say a college degree is a “signal” for.

    Why is intelligence a trait that can be ignored, while the equally unearned privileges of conscientiousness and conformity in your thinking trump everything and entitle their holders to a comfortable life? And is it really better to have employees who “work twice as hard” rather than just hiring a smart guy who gets the job done quickly and retrains himself when situations change without having to be closely monitored?

  76. I’m totally in favor of equity.

    I want every high school in this country to be as good as Beverly Hills High.

  77. @Rob
    I kind of think the left’s push for total racial equality of outcome was baked into the cake of America. Don’t get me wrong, I think the (most of) the founders would be appalled at how America is and where we are going. They did not include a few paragraphs about ‘Congress shall not invite a number of aliens aliens equal to half the current population of the United States in order to swamp the labor supply, and ensure that Jews do not feel so frightened by whiteness.’ They did not include a ‘graph about how the President cannot pardon himself. On both these issues, and a million more, they thought that a government of free and responsible men would have a President who wanted to pardon himself. Nor did they think we would have a somewhat hostile, more intelligent tribe dominating the country.

    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’

    Problem is, racial differences are real. Whether cultural or biological, black males seem programmed for the kind of small group warrior societies without the dominance of states that want to tax the human capital, so don’t want the workers murdering each other. In addition to the well-documented IQ gap, there are ‘assettiveness’ ‘egotism’ ‘physicality’... gaps. Coupled with a much stronger innate tendency to form small bands for mutual protection and force projection against other small bands, we call them ‘gangs,’ there is the fact that blacks do not consider the white power structure to be legitimate. Quite honestly, if I were black, I probably would not.

    Populations vary on every dimension it is possible for individuals to vary. In principle, two populations could get along swimmingly, from, ‘they farm, and we fish, and then we trade grain for fish. But we keep to our own kind” to, “let’s merge our peoples into one new ethnicity with little more than our family names to indicate our ethnic heritages”, as colonists from Western Europe merged into new American ethnicities from colonization to well, I guess it ended after WWII.

    It seems to me that American whites and American blacks are a terrible combination. We want such different lifestyles, and theirs is an undertow that pulls down on whites. It pulls harder the lower someone is in SES. Given the willingness to use violence, poorer reasoning ability, willingness to use violence, and hatred and disdain for whites, in individual encounters, blacks tend to have the upper hand. But whites cheat! We use our control of institutions to make police the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy. Individual white 7-11 clerks do not have to roust sketchy seeming ‘teens’ from their parking lots. The police do it for them. No one is really under the impression that police are there to protect blacks. Yet protect blacks they do. Yet even ‘productive’ and ‘civilized’ blacks tend to be connected to the undertow. They are their sons, cousins, and boyfriends. But when blacks vote as a bloc, they vote for DAs who will not enforce the laws. Ghettoes that looked bombed-out now will look post apocalyptic in a decade.

    As for cultural compatibility, look at it this way. You know how black men don’t amount to much by white standards of masculinity, being a provider for his family, raising his kids with his wife... well, we don’t amount to much by their standards of masculinity. As for femininity, I think that, excluding the posterior antecedent, white women are a supernormal stimulus for male blacks. To some women, the lean muscularity which is not exactly common in blacks, but much more common than in white men who are not chemically enhanced. Both races think athleticism is the sin qua non of masculinity, and the undertow is present in even the best colleges.

    It seems African blacks don’t have the same dislike and culture of never living up to the low expectations we have learned from experience. But the solution is unlikely to be importing more of the problem population.

    Separation is probably not possible. At least not in the sense of all the blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (or wherever) and being a New Azanisn nation. Blacks are too dependent on whites to want to be free. The dumbs live for free in prisons, or off their marginally or AA-employed girlfriends. The smart ones grift off of whites who really want to see blacks acting white. Remember the video a year or so back, of a black father taking care of his daughter’s nappy head? Everyone, white and black, liberal and conservative, everyone but hbd-types who are resigned, wants to see black men acting like adults.

    I guess white people think that blacks living like whites shows the objective superiority of our way of life. If it is universally appealing, it is good. But there is no culture that is appropriate for everyone. We just differ too much. Even if that were not so, whites (due to the culture of critique?) no longer have the cultural confidence to try to convert the heathens in our midst.

    The thing about reality, and hbd is reality, trying to make impossible things happen does not give a ‘invalid entry - please enter data within range xx-xx.’ It just results in consequences that you did not (?) intend. Integration brought crime and anti-white behavior, so white refugees fled to the burbs, where blacks were too poor and disorganized to follow, instead of happy, integrated neighborhoods. Affirmative action was supposed to lift blacks up. But the black IQ and personality trait distributions are different. Instead of pulling up other blacks, the AA blacks fled black communities and now live as strangers in a strange land, Whitopia, where AA can never go away, because what would those Oreos do without it?

    Integrating blacks into white suburbs won’t work out well. I don’t know how it will fail badly. But the white working and middle classes are much immisceratedfrom their 1970 heyday. Many will not be able to afford to flee. Very few whites are optimistic. Well, whites who have not been through four years of college propaganda. The whites who will have to deal with blacks are not optimistic in general. Hell, they trust the elite so little that they believe QAnon! There is no way they will react to the federal government shoving ghetto blacks onto them in a positive manner. They will look upon it as war - the beginning of their genocide. Or worse, large large chunks of the white non-college, and those who attended college but do not have the temperaments or intelligence for well paying jobs, will adopt the ghetto black culture, and we will lose a huge chunk of whites from civilization. Cuz yeah, behavior is driven by biology, but one can always act below one’s best.

    Perhaps the only upside of the Biden-era attempt to shove blacks in everything is that institutions are blackening themselves - the college-educated whites will be drinking their own poison. So perhaps things will not go as far downhill as they did in the 80’s. But America is much less white. We have less slack and less ability to put things right for whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Just a regular guy, @James Speaks

    Back to race. Once you accept ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘blacks are people’ it is difficult to avoid reaching a ‘we need need to uplift blacks that live on our nation’s land. We must turn them into human beings, and then bring these new men into our polity.’

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

    This has nothing to do with blacks. It means that the people of the colonies had the same rights to self-governance as people of other parts of the British Empire. It was all about representation and not at all about outcomes. In fact, the idea of a guaranteed outcome was antithetical to the meaning of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    The Pursuit of Happiness meant the right to fulfill a life worth living. The idea of a right to be happy in the modern sense was not even thought of. Happiness meant job, family, health and all of the other, substantive things mature individuals want. It had nothing to do with Nike sneakers.

    All men are created equal before the law. The laws that apply to blacks also apply to whites, except whites have lost the protection of these laws because wokesters have arrogated themselves to the class of aristocracy that the Constitution forbids.

    It is a trap to buy into the wokesters’ propaganda. What they’re doing to us now is they’re stealing our right to the pursuit of happiness by demanding we forfeit the fruits of our labors, and they lie when they call that equity.

  78. @Guy De Champlagne
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains and tax capital gains like other forms of income and that would be 50% right there, without having to tax wealth.

    Replies: @Spud Boy, @Technite78

    “You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains..”

    Sounds totally workable. /s

  79. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s only a matter of time before The Economist/rabid immigrationists start using the doctrine of ‘equity’ to justify and institutionalised massive uncontrolled immigration into the west.

    The doctrine runs thus: It is ‘inequitable’ that child born on Nigerian or Bangladeshi soil is not ‘entitled’ to the same rights and privileges as a child born on American soil.

    In fact, they are already using this ‘argument’.

  80. Equality : Equity

    Negro : African-American

    It’s just a change of words because the old term was associated with negative stuff, but the idea remains pretty much the same. To take from Peter to give to Paul, or rather, to take from Peter and Paul to give to Ezekiel.

  81. @photondancer
    @Jonathan Mason

    I get your point but your examples seem a mite strained. For instance, the entrepreneurial spirit you admire is dependent upon customers willing to drink orange juice from a bucket that is standing out in the sun and traffic fumes for hours. With regard to burgers, down under you can buy hamburgers from numerous small outlets selling hot food , none of which have drive in windows, bathrooms, customer parking etc. The burgers are nearly always better than any produced by a franchise too.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Well those might not be the best examples, but take for example in the nearby city of La Libertad there is an indoor market where there must be at least 20 stores selling cell phones and related paraphernalia.

    And within a range of 200 or 300 yards, there must be at least 20 shoe stores.

    All of these are basically one person businesses, or family businesses. They cannot be terribly profitable, but the cost of entry must be extremely low.

    It would be nice to have a United States where any unemployed person would immediately be asking themselves what business can I open, and what can I sell?

    But I believe one of the main barriers to that in the United States is that the cost of entry into any kind of business is very high and that the cost of living and rent and mortgage payments are very high, so that many one person businesses would be insufficiently profitable to keep a family afloat.

    But since a great deal of rental housing is owned by wealthy corporations, and real estate developers make huge profits, it seems only reasonable that the wealthy and those who make high wages should contribute more to the common good

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    Another observation is that here in Ecuador we have supermarkets, but buying food in supermarkets is much more expensive than buying food in the markets.

    No doubt this is due to the cost of paying for the convenience of new buildings, air conditioning, packaging, freezers, cashiers, computer systems, etc.

    But it is interesting that this more expensive way of distributing food is almost always the cheapest way of buying food in the United States, indicating that there must be huge inefficiencies in the market.

    For example I was once talking to a truck driver near Jacksonville who was delivering prepared salads from Tennessee to the Publix and Winn-Dixie supermarkets in Jacksonville.

    I commented that they must grow a lot of produce in Tennessee, and he said no it comes from all over, and it's just distributed from Tennessee.

    Now how it can be cost-effective to get fresh produce from all over, and then convert it into prepared salads in Tennessee, and then distribute to Florida claiming that it is fresh is completely beyond me, but somebody must be paying for this and somebody must be profiting from it.

    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.

    And in fact the executives of the massive corporations that distribute food in the US are paying themselves millions of dollars a year, so that is a lot of money being sucked out of the system that could provide jobs for many other people.

    This would all be wonderful if the people who do the backbreaking work of picking tomatoes, oranges, and peppers or working in meat processing factories were well paid and had great benefits, or while working that way through college, but they don't and they aren't.

    Americans are ragged-trousered philanthropists!

    Replies: @Jack D, @Muggles

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Jonathan Mason

    Mr. Mason,

    You are absolutely right about this. The tl;dr version of your two comments (this one and the next one) is that in America and the West, it is no longer possible to be respectably poor. You must either strive for the middle class ideal with all its exigencies, or fall into dysfunction.

    As a result, there are very few people professing a religious vocation. Gone are the humble day laborers and simple craftsmen. Gone are the independent scholars who rented little flats and rode their bicycles to the library and wrote scholarly articles for local publication. Gone are the itinerant tutors who used to give lessons to children in the three R's. Gone are the farmhands, the swains, the toughs, the sailors, the soldiers, the shepherds, the poets, and the even the romantic brigands and highwaymen and pirates.

    These all used to be recognizable social roles. There are a great many people who would naturally fit into these roles and inarticulately pine for them, but they cannot find their place. Nowadays, absolutely everything revolves around the upper middle class wine mom and her consumerist exigencies.

    I have commented about this for a long time, and there is lots of other literature out there that is at least conducive to the same point of view. I will continue to write about these things, if you are interested.

    , @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Interesting idea that SS got us into Vietnam and Korea. I don’t understand. SS law passed 1935.

  82. Can’t we just start saying that we want “equity of opportunity?”

  83. Anon[429] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I just spent a frustratingly long time trying to nail down exactly what kind of knife Jacob “My Penis No Longer Works” Blake had when he was shot, and I thought I’d memorialize what I discovered here.

    There is a photo of the knife here at a local television news station site:

    This is what Blake called a “pocket knife” that he received as a gift, which has sentimental value to him. The cops called it a razor-type knife in their report. Forum and comment section types said it looked like a “Karambit” style knife, but none of the photos in forums were of the actual knife.

    In the evidence photo the brand can be seen as S-TEC. The knife is the S-TEC TS005, described as a “folding Karambit.” Note the shortish blade and the hexagonal final finger hole.

    This folding karambit is designed in-house with one purpose; to serve the user in comfort and efficiency. Our patent pending quick draw design allows the user to draw & defend/attack in a single motion.

    This looks like it on Amazon:

    This looks like a pretty nasty knife to me.

  84. @SFG
    So here's a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, 'diverse' folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @Mike_from_SGV, @ben tillman, @Desiderius, @Richard B

    Hasn’t worked with Congress yet. The fossils keep getting elected. Also most of the old whites are Democrats. For all its faults GOP trends younger if that is what matters to you.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Old and Grumpy

    Nah, my point is that it would be a 'PC' way for businesses to get rid of lots of old and expensive employees.

    Congress, as always, doesn't live by the same rules it imposes on the rest of us.

  85. Equity is like carbon taxes. Both are something to tax and fine when your country is nothing but services. In addition the brown folks will never understand the elite’s play here, and be obedient useful idiots.

  86. @Jonathan Mason
    @photondancer

    Well those might not be the best examples, but take for example in the nearby city of La Libertad there is an indoor market where there must be at least 20 stores selling cell phones and related paraphernalia.

    And within a range of 200 or 300 yards, there must be at least 20 shoe stores.

    All of these are basically one person businesses, or family businesses. They cannot be terribly profitable, but the cost of entry must be extremely low.

    It would be nice to have a United States where any unemployed person would immediately be asking themselves what business can I open, and what can I sell?

    But I believe one of the main barriers to that in the United States is that the cost of entry into any kind of business is very high and that the cost of living and rent and mortgage payments are very high, so that many one person businesses would be insufficiently profitable to keep a family afloat.

    But since a great deal of rental housing is owned by wealthy corporations, and real estate developers make huge profits, it seems only reasonable that the wealthy and those who make high wages should contribute more to the common good

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Intelligent Dasein, @Alden

    Another observation is that here in Ecuador we have supermarkets, but buying food in supermarkets is much more expensive than buying food in the markets.

    No doubt this is due to the cost of paying for the convenience of new buildings, air conditioning, packaging, freezers, cashiers, computer systems, etc.

    But it is interesting that this more expensive way of distributing food is almost always the cheapest way of buying food in the United States, indicating that there must be huge inefficiencies in the market.

    For example I was once talking to a truck driver near Jacksonville who was delivering prepared salads from Tennessee to the Publix and Winn-Dixie supermarkets in Jacksonville.

    I commented that they must grow a lot of produce in Tennessee, and he said no it comes from all over, and it’s just distributed from Tennessee.

    Now how it can be cost-effective to get fresh produce from all over, and then convert it into prepared salads in Tennessee, and then distribute to Florida claiming that it is fresh is completely beyond me, but somebody must be paying for this and somebody must be profiting from it.

    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.

    And in fact the executives of the massive corporations that distribute food in the US are paying themselves millions of dollars a year, so that is a lot of money being sucked out of the system that could provide jobs for many other people.

    This would all be wonderful if the people who do the backbreaking work of picking tomatoes, oranges, and peppers or working in meat processing factories were well paid and had great benefits, or while working that way through college, but they don’t and they aren’t.

    Americans are ragged-trousered philanthropists!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason

    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive. We call the latter "artisanal" and there is a big markup on it - $5 for a loaf of "artisanal" bread vs. 69 cents for an (admittedly lousy) loaf of packaged supermarket white bread.

    Whereas in a country like Ecuador with low labor costs, it's the opposite, so that it's cheaper (if perhaps less sanitary) for a guy to hand squeeze a bucket of local oranges and ladle it out than it is to make bottled orange juice where you have to import the plastic to make the bottles and the bottle making machine and the packaging machinery, etc.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Jonathan Mason

    , @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason


    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.
     
    Yes, when you are totally ignorant about a subject, everything is a 'bit of a mystery.'

    I hate to be so harsh, but there are literally thousands of books about economics, how markets work, and the details of logistics, economies of scale, cost accounting and profit and loss, et. al.

    Spoke and hub distribution makes a lot of sense for many reasons you might want to actually study.

    Personal time is a resource also, as others here note. In developed countries it makes sense to pay for time saving products and services. Subsistence lifestyles aren't much fun. Do you want to stand around all day selling juice in small cups? Drink strange stuff from cups sold by the destitute? You can probably find that in some homeless camps in the States. But somehow actual stores and packaged products are preferred.

    Musical notation is 'a bit of a mystery to me.' But I don't claim it is a waste of time or that those who sell or use sheet music are cheating those who do.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  87. The rise of ‘equity’ is basically an admission that the left is out of ideas for why its pet demographic has not caught up to whites after more than half a century of various social interventions. They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to ‘help’ people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.

    Amy Wax got pilloried for pointing out that the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values, but she’s correct. Because that involves telling a sainted group that they are in charge of whether they get the most out of their abilities rather than pointing the finger at society for holding them back, it cannot be broached.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Arclight


    They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to ‘help’ people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.
     
    What about universal health care?

    Replies: @Arclight

  88. For some years now, the buzzword “equity” has been oozing out of the lowbrow fever swamps of the Schools of Education

    Do you have a citation for that? Or any evidence?

  89. @Jonathan Mason
    @photondancer

    Well those might not be the best examples, but take for example in the nearby city of La Libertad there is an indoor market where there must be at least 20 stores selling cell phones and related paraphernalia.

    And within a range of 200 or 300 yards, there must be at least 20 shoe stores.

    All of these are basically one person businesses, or family businesses. They cannot be terribly profitable, but the cost of entry must be extremely low.

    It would be nice to have a United States where any unemployed person would immediately be asking themselves what business can I open, and what can I sell?

    But I believe one of the main barriers to that in the United States is that the cost of entry into any kind of business is very high and that the cost of living and rent and mortgage payments are very high, so that many one person businesses would be insufficiently profitable to keep a family afloat.

    But since a great deal of rental housing is owned by wealthy corporations, and real estate developers make huge profits, it seems only reasonable that the wealthy and those who make high wages should contribute more to the common good

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Intelligent Dasein, @Alden

    Mr. Mason,

    You are absolutely right about this. The tl;dr version of your two comments (this one and the next one) is that in America and the West, it is no longer possible to be respectably poor. You must either strive for the middle class ideal with all its exigencies, or fall into dysfunction.

    As a result, there are very few people professing a religious vocation. Gone are the humble day laborers and simple craftsmen. Gone are the independent scholars who rented little flats and rode their bicycles to the library and wrote scholarly articles for local publication. Gone are the itinerant tutors who used to give lessons to children in the three R’s. Gone are the farmhands, the swains, the toughs, the sailors, the soldiers, the shepherds, the poets, and the even the romantic brigands and highwaymen and pirates.

    These all used to be recognizable social roles. There are a great many people who would naturally fit into these roles and inarticulately pine for them, but they cannot find their place. Nowadays, absolutely everything revolves around the upper middle class wine mom and her consumerist exigencies.

    I have commented about this for a long time, and there is lots of other literature out there that is at least conducive to the same point of view. I will continue to write about these things, if you are interested.

  90. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    Another observation is that here in Ecuador we have supermarkets, but buying food in supermarkets is much more expensive than buying food in the markets.

    No doubt this is due to the cost of paying for the convenience of new buildings, air conditioning, packaging, freezers, cashiers, computer systems, etc.

    But it is interesting that this more expensive way of distributing food is almost always the cheapest way of buying food in the United States, indicating that there must be huge inefficiencies in the market.

    For example I was once talking to a truck driver near Jacksonville who was delivering prepared salads from Tennessee to the Publix and Winn-Dixie supermarkets in Jacksonville.

    I commented that they must grow a lot of produce in Tennessee, and he said no it comes from all over, and it's just distributed from Tennessee.

    Now how it can be cost-effective to get fresh produce from all over, and then convert it into prepared salads in Tennessee, and then distribute to Florida claiming that it is fresh is completely beyond me, but somebody must be paying for this and somebody must be profiting from it.

    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.

    And in fact the executives of the massive corporations that distribute food in the US are paying themselves millions of dollars a year, so that is a lot of money being sucked out of the system that could provide jobs for many other people.

    This would all be wonderful if the people who do the backbreaking work of picking tomatoes, oranges, and peppers or working in meat processing factories were well paid and had great benefits, or while working that way through college, but they don't and they aren't.

    Americans are ragged-trousered philanthropists!

    Replies: @Jack D, @Muggles

    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive. We call the latter “artisanal” and there is a big markup on it – $5 for a loaf of “artisanal” bread vs. 69 cents for an (admittedly lousy) loaf of packaged supermarket white bread.

    Whereas in a country like Ecuador with low labor costs, it’s the opposite, so that it’s cheaper (if perhaps less sanitary) for a guy to hand squeeze a bucket of local oranges and ladle it out than it is to make bottled orange juice where you have to import the plastic to make the bottles and the bottle making machine and the packaging machinery, etc.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @Jack D

    Have you ever been to India, their street food is even cheaper than Ecuador if that is what you are after.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D


    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive.
     
    Ah, I see that you are using your little grey cells, mon ami!

    Then seeing that 1 in 8 Americans get food stamps and almost 1 in 2 Americans are born under Medicaid, is it not reasonable that the billions of dollars of profits made by companies like Walmart should be spread around a bit more equitably, especially since their executives are getting to keep millions of dollars for their personal use and that of their families.

    After all, the billions of dollars worth of profits would not be made at all if it was not for the consumers playing their part. Walmart made $15 billion profit last year, and a good chunk of this will have come from food stamp purchases.

    If you allow massive corporations to control a majority of the food supply, electricity supply, water supply, Internet and telecommunications, energy, etc, then essentially they become public utilities and ought to be used to generate funds to be used for the common good.

    At the very least we could have mandatory and substantial employee representation on the boards of corporations that employ more than 2000 people, like they have in Germany.
  91. @Just a regular guy
    @Rob

    Blacks need whites in order to have any semblance of civilization. White people don’t need Africans at all. This is the fundamental issue. Africans left to themselves and you get at best Jamaica. White people left to themselves create Norway.

    Replies: @Travis, @Stan Adams

    True enough.

    How will Blacks do in America when we are 45% White, 30% Hispanic, 10% Asian and 15% Black ? This will be the demographics of America in 25 years, But this will be the demographics of the under 45 population in about 10 years.

  92. Finally a band-aid against racist abuse and both micro and meso aggressions

    Trippy drugs and magic ’shrooms can cure people mentally scarred by racist abuse, new research suggests

    The study found that using psychedelic drugs offered relief from trauma caused by racial discrimination in a subject group that included black people, Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Indigenous Canadians, and other minorities. All had encountered some form of unfair treatment by neighbors, teachers, and employers; false accusations of wrongdoing; and physical violence.

    Whitey, however, will have to cope with having a gun shoved into his face, raped, beaten, abused or being shot in a “panhandling gone wrong”.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @El Dato

    Wow — that article was painful to read. The study was probably a piece of crap, but that article was astonishingly stupid. Psilocybin in LSD and MDMA?

  93. @photondancer
    @MEH 0910

    Pacific Islanders? what did they (allegedly) do?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Pacific Islanders? what did they (allegedly) do?

    Nothing. It’s just another blood libel for Biden to smear whites with to cynically hold a coalition together.

    • Agree: Richard B
  94. @Arclight
    The rise of 'equity' is basically an admission that the left is out of ideas for why its pet demographic has not caught up to whites after more than half a century of various social interventions. They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to 'help' people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.

    Amy Wax got pilloried for pointing out that the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values, but she's correct. Because that involves telling a sainted group that they are in charge of whether they get the most out of their abilities rather than pointing the finger at society for holding them back, it cannot be broached.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jonathan Mason

    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,

    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don’t want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don’t want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don’t.

    “Equity” means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a “black” lifestyle but have a “white” standard of living. The “white” lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white – Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice – studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a “white” standard of living. If you could achieve the “white” standard of living without having to make “white” sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an “aspiring rapper” – an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). “Equity” is just such a dream.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks,

    It was modal as recently as 1960.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Black men don’t want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America.
     
    Are you sure that monogamy/marriage was not the traditional arrangement for blacks under “slavery” in America? Could you provide a reference for that proposition?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Arclight
    @Jack D

    There are plenty of black Americans who do their best to adhere to traditional middle class norms, but the widespread tolerance on the left of hugely dysfunctional behavior and successful tarring of concerns about it as racist means their influence has been blunted for several generations.

    The black respectability politics of the mid-20th century put bourgeoise blacks at the peak of the black social order and provided social pressure on those below them to emulate them in their habits. Abandonment of that social norm and glorification (largely by lefty whites) of black radical politics led directly to the collapse of the black family, staggering crime rates, and the exodus of upwardly mobile blacks from mixed income urban neighborhoods to the suburbs.

    I am not saying that more widespread adoption of bourgeoise values is a panacea or would achieve real-life 'equity'. But it would certainly mean an incremental decrease in the most dysfunctional cultural behaviors and the associated costs borne by the rest of us as a result.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Black kids don’t want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant.
     
    Arclight said "white bourgeois values", not "yellow (hyper-)bourgeois values".

    Replies: @Jack D

  95. Anon[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    In the United States you see beggars standing (or sitting) at traffic lights holding up signs saying "unemployed veteran homeless God Bless" or approaching people at gas stations asking for cash or gasoline.

    In Ecuador, where I am in present time, even the unemployed and homeless want to be entrepreneurs.

    Jugglers, hoola-hoopers, and flag-dancers perform at traffic lights.

    I know a woman who is unemployed pharmacy manager, who is getting by by selling bottled water in the street to thirsty motorists or pedestrians.

    Handicapped people sell various products to passengers on buses.

    At New Year in Manta I was waiting to cross the road with a bottle of juice in my hand, and a woman stopped her car rolled down the window, and offered me $0.50 for the juice.

    In the market places there are people standing around selling every product imaginable. A guy with a large bucket of iced orange juice does a good trade at 50 cents a cup, while on the other side of his intersection a competitoris selling coconut juice.

    At the bus station in Guayaquil there are over 100 departure gates, and each one has its own snack vending hut eking out a living.

    Meanwhile in the US all kinds of rules and regulations make it almost impossible for people to support themselves and make a living doing even the most basic things.

    Just setting up a place to sell hamburgers could require over a million dollars by the time you factor in the need to provide handicap parking spaces for each hamburger stand, and workers comp for any employees, men's and women's bathrooms, a drive-in window, health insurance for employees,and so on.

    So it is hardly a coincidence that most hamburger places, the most humble of businesses, are run by multinational corporations.

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg's family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald's franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    If the sale of hamburgers is so profitable, wouldn't you think everybody would be doing it and competing to build a better burger?

    Replies: @photondancer, @Pericles, @Anon, @Alden

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg’s family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald’s franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    I don’t really like to go overboard ragging on really successful American companies that walk all over the competition internationally. You have to have a certain pride, or at least a love-hate feeling. And I have a soft spot for McDonald’s, the normal hamburger, with fries, and a Coke. I think there is room for different types of hamburgers. McDonalds is the same type of burger you got at the beach hamburger stands in the 1960s.

    And how the heck is McDonald’s overpriced?

    [MORE]

    The food is what it is and is just fine. I particularly get annoyed at people who think it’s not healthy. Some white bread, some beef, some condiments, potatoes, cooking oil. Once it’s in your stomach, your body doesn’t know the difference between the protein, fat, carbohydrate, salt, vitimins, and minerals from fast food or from higher end restaurant food. Just keep things in balance. Every meal doesn’t have to be perfectly balanced. If over a couple weeks you get a moderate amount of everything, including calories, you’ll be fine.

    Personally I would not want to run a McDonalds franchise because I would enjoy the creative side of thinking up the product and promoting it, rather than just the administrative side of hiring people and keeping things running efficiently.

    I’ve thought it would be a good strategy to get a McDonalds franchise, then change the product to something more interesting, maybe turn it into something closer to In-N-Out. Maybe read Grinding it Out and try to recreate the 1950s McDonalds. McDonalds would come down on you like a ton of bricks, maybe even sue you immediately. They eventually figured out how to run the pre-Kroc franchise in Southern California out of business. But you could milk it for the publicity, then at the right moment dump the franchise and switch to your original new branding, which you had prepared in advance, with the signage already made. Maybe open a second location immediately.

    I just now remembered the golden arches McDonald’s of my youth on La Cienega in Los Angeles: Take out windows only. A few concrete tables and benches. But most people eating in their cars. French fries under the seats every time you cleaned the car interior. This is how we eat now in CoronaTimes. Maybe the old McDonalds is the new McDonalds

  96. @Achmed E. Newman

    Republicans have been trained to denounce this as “Marxism,” but it’s actually Kendiism, the ideology of the enterprising capitalist/antiwhite racist Ibram X. Kendi, who has made a fortune lecturing that any racial inequality in performance is proof of inequity.

    But it’s safer for whites to sputter against Marxism than to deny Kendiism. Who dares tell Professor Kendi that the main reason in 2021 that blacks tend to perform poorly on many measures is not white racism?

     
    I'm no fad of this Ibram Kendi, believe me, but I don't agree with this "sputtering" against Marxism line. What is not Marxist about what these people are demanding with their equity talk - "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his means?" It's just that it's being demanded on a group basis now, instead of an individual basis.

    Racial Marxism: "From each group according to its abilities, to each group according to its means."

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr Mox

    Needs, not means but otherwise I agree with you. Needs, as in “we need our weaves”.

    On a group basis, whites have more abilities so they have to give more, and blacks have more needs so they have to receive more. That’s equitable, right?

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  97. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason

    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive. We call the latter "artisanal" and there is a big markup on it - $5 for a loaf of "artisanal" bread vs. 69 cents for an (admittedly lousy) loaf of packaged supermarket white bread.

    Whereas in a country like Ecuador with low labor costs, it's the opposite, so that it's cheaper (if perhaps less sanitary) for a guy to hand squeeze a bucket of local oranges and ladle it out than it is to make bottled orange juice where you have to import the plastic to make the bottles and the bottle making machine and the packaging machinery, etc.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Jonathan Mason

    Have you ever been to India, their street food is even cheaper than Ecuador if that is what you are after.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Znzn

    The term "false economy" comes to mind.

  98. @Polistra
    @MEH 0910

    WTF. Did he say the part about how "this directive (like all other laws) doesn't apply to negroes" under his breath? Or does it no longer need saying.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26

    Just imagine, if more incredibly creative and innovative… how much more creative and innovative we’d be if this nation held the historic black colleges and universities to the same opportunities and minority serving institutions that had the same funding and resources of public universities to compete for jobs and industries of the future.

    Biden sez that we as a nation are leaving Harriet Tubman $20 bills of black intellectual talent laying on the proverbial sidewalk.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @MEH 0910

    I got lost in that sentence, did he start over in the middle there?

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @MEH 0910

    There's no way that bill will circulate that much without several people scrawling "Coon", "Kaffir", "Jiggaboo", "Mayate", a noose and UNZ.COM all over it.

  99. @Arclight
    The rise of 'equity' is basically an admission that the left is out of ideas for why its pet demographic has not caught up to whites after more than half a century of various social interventions. They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to 'help' people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.

    Amy Wax got pilloried for pointing out that the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values, but she's correct. Because that involves telling a sainted group that they are in charge of whether they get the most out of their abilities rather than pointing the finger at society for holding them back, it cannot be broached.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jonathan Mason

    They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to ‘help’ people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.

    What about universal health care?

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, that might help improve people's well-being, but what I was getting at was the myth that various government interventions would unlock previously-untapped potential in tens of millions of people at the bottom end of society to be artists, entrepreneurs, and scientists, etc.

    We have done all sorts of things - direct social welfare payments and housing subsidies, grants and easy to get federally subsidized student loans, creation of an entire Department of Education, affirmative action, decriminalization, and an income tax system that represents an annual massive redistribution of wealth. Through it all, the stubborn reality is that we are not all equal in terms of ability or effort and actual outcomes tend to shake out accordingly.

  100. @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Jonathan Mason

    If you ever cared to look upstream, you'd find many of the answers to these questions of yours.

    , @J.Ross
    @Jonathan Mason

    Can you name one country which has "achieved" this without being a leech upon us?

    , @Dumbo
    @Jonathan Mason

    Sometimes I think, maybe it's the same answer about Public Transportation and a lot of similar questions.

    Because Blacks.

    Don't want to be racist or anything, but, I think a lot of things in the U.S. are not done as in Europe because of Blacks, because what works with majority white people don't work so well with Blacks. You can't have nice public transportation because you might get robbed by blacks. You can't have health insurance for all, because Blacks might overuse it contributing less. (Although, maybe that would be more a problem with Latinos, who are much more numerous, than with Blacks)

    But you can't say it, and so, you make a huge rationalization about "muh freedom" and so on.

    Of course, now Europe might be having the same problem a few years down the line, so we have to see how they deal with that.

    Perhaps the problem is not even just Blacks or non-whites in general, but just the huge size and diversity of the country as compared to smaller countries. Smaller countries tend to work better in that sort of thing too. Perhaps if it was done at the State level... I don't know.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?
     
    Examine the demographics of those countries at the time of inception of those systems. Now, examine our own.

    State-dependent programs have their own perils. Social Security and Medicare got us into Vietnam, for instance. Korea, too, arguably.
    , @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, Mexico has government health care systems. So why do Mexicans flock here for treatment, the ones who can? Even Canadians come here for rationed care not provided timely or at all there supposedly free.

    In every shithole country you usually find government "health systems." Nearly all very lethal or non helpful. The developed nations can sometimes afford that, but it also relies on rationing and second rate doctors and facilities. Things are heavily taxed to pay for care.

    There are government plans for the very poor or those who choose not to work or pay for their own care. For others, the current system works pretty well.

    Aside from deliberately killing people, what are the services provided by government that are superior to private market solutions?

    Replies: @anonsasmaug, @James O'Meara, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @nebulafox
    @Jonathan Mason

    America's got 350 million people spread across a continent, with vastly differing local bureaucracies competing with the cluster of federal bureaucracies. To say nothing of ridiculous rates of obesity, drug addiction, etc.

    I completely, totally agree that America's health care system is messed up: I don't think anyone not being paid by the health insurance industry would disagree with that. But you can't just slap on a smaller country's model and expect it to work, and I'm honestly leery of giving people like those below (Trust The Experts To Preserve Democracy, TM) more power than they already have.

    https://twitter.com/KTVU/status/1352939150039805952

  101. Now that I see the three Amigos cartoon again, it dawns on my that the oldest, who you assume is the father, could give the youngest a second box and equality would work out just fine.

    Kamala’s cartoon depicts a black mountain climber as being too stupid to follow the trail to the cliff chosen by his smarter white partner. Thus, the discriminated-against black man can’t reach the magic rope that somehow pulls the privileged white mountaineer up as if he’s riding a ski-resort towrope.

    I’ve summited Mt. Blanc a few times, and I don’t recall seeing any bruthas up there, but that’s not surprising given the name. I did Kilimanjaro once, and it was still mostly white affair, but with a few paid locals helping out.

    I know of one “African American” who summited Everest, but they usually play down that she is half-Japanese. Oddly enough, the only black climbers I have heard about were all women.

    Maybe someone should tell Kamala climbing is still not a black thing, probably because it’s cold up there and seems rather pointless when self-actualisation is not your thing and you have to pay rather than be paid.

    I’m happy to have a brother or sister join me on my next ascent, but I’m sure as hell not going to carry their packs.(Equity or Equality in mountain climbing … Packs for Blacks?).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    Alarmist, f it comes to any technical climbing, will you be OK with a C.O.C. (Climber Of Color) that you don't know very well belaying you? Just asking for a friend ... who may want your gear if, well, you know ...

    Did you have oxygen up on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  102. @Father O'Hara
    The USA,the United States of Apartheid. We're becoming more like the Mother Country,except white men are the Palestinians.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    We’re becoming more like the Mother Country,except white men are the Palestinians.

    The Mother Country is chock-a-block with Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews?
    (While we’re at it, the Arabs in Israel are treated quite agreeably. If they’d like to diminish their standard of living and civil rights, they have 20-odd Arab countries from which to chose).

  103. Why don’t we say what everybody knows? And, in my view, it is useless to argue about nature & nurture.

    Blacks don’t fit in any modern functioning society.

    East & South Asians, or a big chunk of them- yes, they can, way too many of them- but they remain aliens (just look at the Chinese in SE Asia). I admire the Chinese- in China. They certainly are a type of culture/race that is more conducive to the creation of wealth & a low crime society than, say, Russians. Russian diaspora is not nearly as successful as the Chinese.

    But Russians can fit in any white European/Europe-derived society, while Asians remain alien.

    Mestizo Hispanics, I think, need not to be addressed.

    Muslims of any type- forget it, a different cultural code, unassimilable, very alien.

  104. In stead of ‘equity’, isn’t the correct word ‘equalization’?

  105. @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks,

    It was modal as recently as 1960.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    You selectively quoted me. This is what I actually wrote:


    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. .... For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it.
     

    Replies: @nebulafox

  106. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Turgid writing and strained displays of vocabulary will never gain you the intellectual equity you so palpably yearn for.

    Oh, excuse me, for which you so palpably yearn.

    Might I recommend tying the down-to-earth, folksy approach? It allows one to hide his shortcomings, whereas you have been standing there with your pants down for months.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @SunBakedSuburb

    Uh, wats turgid mean?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  107. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    If you ever cared to look upstream, you’d find many of the answers to these questions of yours.

  108. @Achmed E. Newman

    Republicans have been trained to denounce this as “Marxism,” but it’s actually Kendiism, the ideology of the enterprising capitalist/antiwhite racist Ibram X. Kendi, who has made a fortune lecturing that any racial inequality in performance is proof of inequity.

    But it’s safer for whites to sputter against Marxism than to deny Kendiism. Who dares tell Professor Kendi that the main reason in 2021 that blacks tend to perform poorly on many measures is not white racism?

     
    I'm no fad of this Ibram Kendi, believe me, but I don't agree with this "sputtering" against Marxism line. What is not Marxist about what these people are demanding with their equity talk - "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his means?" It's just that it's being demanded on a group basis now, instead of an individual basis.

    Racial Marxism: "From each group according to its abilities, to each group according to its means."

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr Mox

    Oops, too sleepy! Thank you, Jack D.

    Racial Marxism: “From each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its needs.” It’s the new, new Communism. Enjoy, suckers!

    By suckers, I mean people like Jonathan Mason. I could have written back to explain how the damn Socialist policies he pushes – in conservative NE Florida, no less! – are the causes for the problems he discusses, with more Socialist solutions proposed to fix those, of course.

    Jonathan, stay in Ecuador, please. You can then feel comfortable as a double-ex-pat, criticizing everything wrong here that you never did a damn thing to help do something about, from afar. You can be the next Fred Reed. Enjoy the fresh orange juice.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Enjoy the fresh orange juice.
     
    Your remind me of an anecdote about orange juice.

    I was driving home to south Florida overnight some years ago, down I-75, and decided to stop for breakfast at a restaurant near Bradenton.

    This would have been February, right in the middle of the orange picking season, and right in the middle of orange growing territory, at a time when people were selling large bags of fresh-picked oranges at the roadside for $3.

    So I ordered an orange juice with my breakfast, and it was delivered in a labeled carton with small print saying that it was produce of Brazil.Sad, because cold fresh orange juice from early in the picking season is one of the world's great delights.

    I guess it was cheaper to ship it all the way from Brazil than to serve the signature local product that was in season!

    But funnily enough, I bought some oranges in the market in Ecuador recently, and noticed that they were tagged with little stickers as produce of Florida, even though Ecuador has borders with Brazil.

    Ecuador also grows its own oranges and many other fruits, but the most popular juice drinks are Andean blackberry (mora), passion fruit (maricuya), and guayanaba.

  109. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason

    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive. We call the latter "artisanal" and there is a big markup on it - $5 for a loaf of "artisanal" bread vs. 69 cents for an (admittedly lousy) loaf of packaged supermarket white bread.

    Whereas in a country like Ecuador with low labor costs, it's the opposite, so that it's cheaper (if perhaps less sanitary) for a guy to hand squeeze a bucket of local oranges and ladle it out than it is to make bottled orange juice where you have to import the plastic to make the bottles and the bottle making machine and the packaging machinery, etc.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Jonathan Mason

    The short answer is that labor costs are very high in the US vs other costs (raw materials, transportation) so that anything that can be produced by an automated process without a lot of labor input (packaged food, produce grown on large automated farms) is very cheap and anything that requires manual labor (locally prepared food made from locally grown produce) is very expensive.

    Ah, I see that you are using your little grey cells, mon ami!

    Then seeing that 1 in 8 Americans get food stamps and almost 1 in 2 Americans are born under Medicaid, is it not reasonable that the billions of dollars of profits made by companies like Walmart should be spread around a bit more equitably, especially since their executives are getting to keep millions of dollars for their personal use and that of their families.

    After all, the billions of dollars worth of profits would not be made at all if it was not for the consumers playing their part. Walmart made $15 billion profit last year, and a good chunk of this will have come from food stamp purchases.

    If you allow massive corporations to control a majority of the food supply, electricity supply, water supply, Internet and telecommunications, energy, etc, then essentially they become public utilities and ought to be used to generate funds to be used for the common good.

    At the very least we could have mandatory and substantial employee representation on the boards of corporations that employ more than 2000 people, like they have in Germany.

  110. So for all you idiots that kept whining that Trump was a useless blowhard and you might as well vote for Biden: are you happy now?

  111. Something about this phrasing so neatly encapsulates the woke neoliberal mindset.

  112. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    “Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean.”

    In New America, a word means whatever the Woke Overlords want it to mean, and they will enforce that meaning.

  113. @SFG
    So here's a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, 'diverse' folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @Mike_from_SGV, @ben tillman, @Desiderius, @Richard B

    Woke corporations, being corporations, still mostly care about the bottom line; so you are right, this might be a clever way of reducing costs while framing it in terms of ‘justice and equity’.

  114. @Just a regular guy
    Who’s gonna inform the black community that equality of outcome is impossible when your groups average IQ is 85? Gonna take a whole lotta equity to solve this problem. Lol

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @njguy73

    The premise of the Equity ideology is that everyone on the planet has the same IQ and ability, and when there is unequal outcome, that is evidence of racism or injustice or whatever. It’s amazing that such a demonstrably false premise is allowed to drive public policy. A sign of a sick society when so many people hold this premise.

  115. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks,

    It was modal as recently as 1960.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You selectively quoted me. This is what I actually wrote:

    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. …. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Why? I don't think there's anything special about black people here. Until the postwar era, monogamy and nuclear family arrangements were the normative arrangement throughout American society, regardless of race or class: so normative that nobody bothered to question whether they were happy under it. Near I can tell, this was still normative during the slave-holding era, to the point where it was considered bad form for a "responsible" master to split up slave families through selling individuals: if anything, the most prominent exceptions tended to be slave concubines for Junior.

    (Africa: sure, but that's the case for a lot of non-Western societies. Polygamy was widespread in China and Indonesia until Mao and Suharto, respectively. The nuclear family model was an outlier rooted in Europe: which happened to help create such successful societal results that societies that wished to modernize adopted it. It's also worth noting that such polygamous families were concentrated in the well-to-do and the nobility, because they were the only ones who could afford multiple wives. The common people, ironically, tended to be more monogamous.)

    As I've said in previous comments, nuclear family models are more than ever tied into socioeconomic status. Not least because increased associative mating is a thing, socially and genetically. Many of the same forces that hit underclass black America first have been heavily impacting underclass white America. It took longer and it might not be as all-encompassing, but the dynamics at work don't vary.

  116. @Harry Baldwin
    Equity is how Hunter Biden got paying jobs on the board of directors of every company over which his father had political influence. Surely, Joe would like everyone's kid to get the same deal.

    Replies: @Escher

    That’s also how he got equity in those companies.

  117. Slightly OT- cultural differences play a crucial role in one’s perception of life. Most British & US commenters think that this incident will end up in divorce; I, on the other hand, am of the opinion that the happy end will result in re-kindling of PASSION.

    Sooo…. which kind of immigrants, after all, you prefer? A Chinese wife who will back-stab you because of her family? Or Latina wife who will stab you in the front because of- you? Or WASP wife who will leave you without notice, while first clearing out your account?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9185805/Wife-stabs-husband-multiple-times-finding-pictures-woman-her.html

    Jealous wife stabs her husband multiple times after finding pictures of him having sex with ‘another woman’ – without realizing images were of HER taken years earlier

    The woman, identified by police only as Leonora R, was arrested last week in the municipality of Cajeme, in Mexico, following a domestic disturbance call

    Police said she stabbed her husband, ‘Juan N’, multiple times after finding images of his cell phone that showed him having sex with ‘another’ woman

    The pictures in question were actually images of Leonora and Juan from when they were younger and still only dating

    Juan told police he had recently found the images in an old email and saved them

    He was stabbed multiple times in the attack but is expected to survive

    Leonora remains in custody with charges still pending, local reports say

  118. @SFG
    So here's a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, 'diverse' folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @Mike_from_SGV, @ben tillman, @Desiderius, @Richard B

    So here’s a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    Expensive employees can be fired or asked to take a pay cut without any pretext of that sort.

  119. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Sorry Chauncey, active voice makes meaning, passive receives, and all y’all are addicted to passive.

  120. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Takimag doesn't have commenting anymore, Jim. It's been 2 or 3 years.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jim Christian

    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore
    That’s a shame the “First” contest was always very amusing.

  121. anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Sure, because “mentioned more often” worked out so very well last year with regard to the difference between “riot” and “mostly peaceful protest”. Didn’t it? Where should it be “mentioned more often”? Facebook? Twitter? Instagram? CNN? NPR? Next time you need something to read, I suggest Sun Tzu.

    “Know the times”…

    Anyway, Current Year “equity” is just another version of a race-base spoils system with … someone … in the middle busy playing the role of “dispenser of the gibs”. This isn’t new, it’s quite old. Empires have ruled with this method in various places and times, some for centuries.

    Marxism just left out one clause, that’s all:

    “From each according to his means, to each according to his needs; with a nice little skim off the top for me and my pals who work very hard dealing out the goodies”.

  122. The proper response when faced with talk of “equity” is simply to play dumb and say that you favor “equity of opportunity” rather than “equity of result”. Then let your interlocutor tire himself out as he attempts to explain that your position is an oxymoron.

    • Replies: @anon
    @milthoslayer

    you favor “equity of opportunity” rather than “equity of result”.

    https://media.tenor.com/images/7fe1e30df0875bc40822dc534af6237b/tenor.gif

    , @Hibernian
    @milthoslayer

    I think they'll catch on to that pretty fast. Standard Leftist dogma is that anyone who doesn't swallow their doctrine, hook, line, and sinker, is a racist, reactionary, etc.

  123. The rot goes deep… notice the cartoon getting published in the prestigious journal Cell:

    https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)00011-8

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @mr_dre


    The rot goes deep… notice the cartoon getting published in the prestigious journal Cell:
     
    https://marlin-prod.literatumonline.com/cms/attachment/3d53411a-d338-4b23-9ec3-c30adda98581/gr1.jpg
  124. @Guy De Champlagne
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You could just stop letting people accrue unrealized gains and tax capital gains like other forms of income and that would be 50% right there, without having to tax wealth.

    Replies: @Spud Boy, @Technite78

    Taxing unrealized gains is unrealizable.

    By definition, an unrealized gain is the current market value of an asset subtracted by its cost basis.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    For those that it is relatively straightforward to determine unrealized gain (i.e. listed stocks, suburban homes, etc)… their value will drop precipitously relative to those that are easily manipulated.

    BTW, taxing gains (realized or unrealized) without adjusting for inflation *is* taxing wealth. And we already do that.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @Technite78

    I agree we should adjust for inflation. But a billionaire has his wealth in liquid assets and assets that he is constantly having assessed and borrowing against. For everything else you can adjust his gains rate UP based on years held when they do sell to make it equivalent to having paid a yearly tax and periodically force an estate assessment similar to what would happen when he dies. It's 100% feasible.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    That's not in any way specific to taxing unrealized gains.

    Replies: @Technite78

  125. The United States long ago abandoned equality. Our leaders realized decades ago that Blacks could not compete on equal footing with whites in most professions. Thus we began affirmative action programs to allow millions of Blacks to attend colleges, become police officers, and obtain government contracts, obtain special business loans, etc…

    After 50 years of affirmative action (racial quotas) we realized that Blacks still find it difficult to succeed in America. So they doubled-down on blaming racism for the failures of Blacks. They know that equality – treating all Americans equally- would never work to help Blacks. The Supreme Court legalized racial preferences decades ago. Yet the gaps remain. There is no viable solution to closing the gaps.

    There are now 45 million African-Americans, so they have been succeeding in reproducing over the last 50 years. Blacks have doubled their population in the US since 1970, while the White population has remained stagnant. Black fertility remains significantly higher than White fertility and the Black population will continue to rise as the White population has started to decline. So by the standards of the most important metric, reproductive success, Blacks have been succeeding and whites have failed to maintain their population. One reason the Black population will continue to grow , it takes two white parents to make a white baby but only one Black parent to make a Black baby. Obama and Halle Berry are two examples. 10% of the “white births” over the last decade have resulted in non-white children. A “white-Birth” indicates the mother is white and this is one reason the white population is in decline. Most of the successful Blacks in America are in fact mulattoes. So the best way to close the gaps is to encourage Black females to get impregnated with whites and Asians. This may be why the media keeps showing us inter-racial pairings on TV, to help encourage miscegenation in an attempt to improve the Black gene pool. But since less than 1% of Black females are getting impregnated by whites this agenda is not likely to have much effect. Even if we tripled the number of Black females getting pregnant with whites it would still be too small a number to have much impact on their gene pool.

  126. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    Black men don’t want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America.

    Are you sure that monogamy/marriage was not the traditional arrangement for blacks under “slavery” in America? Could you provide a reference for that proposition?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Slaves were property and could not legally marry any more than your horses can marry each other.


    "Colonial and antebellum legislation and jurisprudence
    prohibited marriages between bonded slaves."

     

    https://digitalcommons.law.lsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1262&context=faculty_scholarship

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  127. @Anon7
    No one has discussed the second way of making sure that everything is nice and equal - you can raise one group up, sure. But you can also cut the other group down, which is being accomplished all over our society, but especially in schools.

    White boys have been on the defensive for two generations. They're penalized every single day they sit in a classroom with union teachers, who unfailingly promote the progressive Left party line. My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a "C" student. The woman who taught the class used every trick possible to get him this "C" grade, while simultaneously using the rest of her tricks to get an "A" for as many of the girls as possible.

    Fortunately, I intervened and long story short, he's working on his math PhD. But many white boys never recover.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Alden

    My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a “C” student.

    Yeah, no one believes this.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @ScarletNumber

    Scarlet! You're back.

    Actually, I only told the quick version of this story because it's one of the incidents that really brought me over from liberalism on this very site some years ago, and I've commented on it before.

    Here, see if you believe a longer version. My son was in the first few months of sixth grade, and I got an interim grade report saying he was getting a "C" in math. Not sure of what to do, I arranged for an appointment with his teacher.

    Oh, yes, she said. I divide grading into tests, homework and in class assignments. And your son is getting a "C" in all three, so that's a "C".

    Tell me about the tests, I said. She said that the tests consisted of 30-35 questions. I asked how many answers he got right out of the total possible. She said that my son always got all the answers right.

    What?

    He has to show his work, she insisted. Do you think that a kid who just writes down correct answers is a "C" student? I knew that he had terrible handwriting (and still does) and it's hard for him. (*More busy work writing.)

    Okay, how about homework. Same story, he gets all the answers, but doesn't show his work. Also, and more importantly, he doesn't keep a neat notebook, with a table of contents, with all his homework, in order (*clerical speed and accuracy).

    And in class? Well, in class assignments are *very social in nature. Lots of *talking about how to do the problem. Lots of *extra writing. Lots of narrative driven *story problems. Once your son knows how to do a kind of problem, he loses interest, said the teacher.

    So, I went home and had a talk with my son. He decided to do extra math at a local tutoring place. He placed out of several years of junior high math. He finished BC calculus as a high school junior, and took Honors Math Analysis at the University in our university town as a high school senior. About 20 kids per year take it, because it involves about fifty hours of homework per week. One of those courses where, in the first semester, they don't give you any numbers - you have to build the real numbers before you get to play with them. All proofs. As a college freshman, he took graduate level math and tutored senior engineering students on the tough parts.

    So what do you think, Scarlet? Good story telling, or a horror story about how talented boys are treated by female Leftist teacher's union employees? I know, I know, you're just one of the trolls who like to tweak Steve's earnest commenters, but perhaps some of Steve's current readers enjoyed it.

    Replies: @photondancer, @nebulafox, @ScarletNumber

  128. Maybe equity isn’t about raising the earth, but leveling the mountain.
    It’s probably much easier to get one group to drag themselves and their children through the mud than it would be to raise the other group up. They think that by tearing apart one group and their families this will put the other group on equal footing, because now the first group is supposedly being treated like the other supposed oppressed group. In other words mucking up the life of one group to make themselves feel superior. You will live in a constant state of feeling bad about yourself, everything you have is not yours, right down to your ideas and you’ll be tormented with your wickedness forever. Living a single lifetime with some people is no heaven, living with them for eternity is hell.

  129. @SFG
    So here's a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, 'diverse' folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @Mike_from_SGV, @ben tillman, @Desiderius, @Richard B

    New?

    • Agree: Paul Jolliffe
  130. @Anon7
    No one has discussed the second way of making sure that everything is nice and equal - you can raise one group up, sure. But you can also cut the other group down, which is being accomplished all over our society, but especially in schools.

    White boys have been on the defensive for two generations. They're penalized every single day they sit in a classroom with union teachers, who unfailingly promote the progressive Left party line. My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a "C" student. The woman who taught the class used every trick possible to get him this "C" grade, while simultaneously using the rest of her tricks to get an "A" for as many of the girls as possible.

    Fortunately, I intervened and long story short, he's working on his math PhD. But many white boys never recover.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Alden

    I experienced multiple things like this, my parents actually pulled me out of the school system I was in because of it. Even before woke there were teachers with chips on their shoulders who would not accept a correct answer from a student they hated. I recall the opening of A League Of Their Own where the grandma does not advocate a free experiment or even chance, but instead skews the result based on an assumption of inferiority moderated by fake charity. That’s the model here. Success doesn’t matter, let X win (and Y lose) because of social justice.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Anon7
    @J.Ross

    As Steve says


    “Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve. Politicians who laud “equity” are, in effect, inevitably promising racial quotas at the expense of the careers of competent white men and their families.
     
    And like you say, the result is not left to chance. That's why Leftists and most women advocate for socialism; the outcome is determined by law, not by chance and not by ability.

    As the Rich Dad Poor Dad guy points out, it's also an essential difference between people who use education to get a job (Poor Dad) and those who compete in a capitalist system (Rich Dad). People who get higher degrees are used to a sure thing; you put in the years of study and you are guaranteed a degree at the end, and probably a job (except under Biden's open borders, of course).

    OTOH, people who compete in business are guaranteed nothing. I've spent a year building an online business, 2500 hours of honest work, and had it fail. Entrepreneurship is not for everyone, but people who can do it need to be richly rewarded, because that's where all those jobs come from, not to mention a country's wealth.

  131. OT: If this Covid didn’t get new mutations every single week now that are 30, 50 and even 70% more infectious and/or deadly, one would have to invented them. I’m waiting for the mutation that disproportionately affects under-served minorities.

    Keep buying those masks. There are now huge stocks lying around.

  132. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    Can you name one country which has “achieved” this without being a leech upon us?

  133. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    Sometimes I think, maybe it’s the same answer about Public Transportation and a lot of similar questions.

    Because Blacks.

    Don’t want to be racist or anything, but, I think a lot of things in the U.S. are not done as in Europe because of Blacks, because what works with majority white people don’t work so well with Blacks. You can’t have nice public transportation because you might get robbed by blacks. You can’t have health insurance for all, because Blacks might overuse it contributing less. (Although, maybe that would be more a problem with Latinos, who are much more numerous, than with Blacks)

    But you can’t say it, and so, you make a huge rationalization about “muh freedom” and so on.

    Of course, now Europe might be having the same problem a few years down the line, so we have to see how they deal with that.

    Perhaps the problem is not even just Blacks or non-whites in general, but just the huge size and diversity of the country as compared to smaller countries. Smaller countries tend to work better in that sort of thing too. Perhaps if it was done at the State level… I don’t know.

  134. @MEH 0910
    @Polistra

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Just imagine, if more incredibly creative and innovative… how much more creative and innovative we’d be if this nation held the historic black colleges and universities to the same opportunities and minority serving institutions that had the same funding and resources of public universities to compete for jobs and industries of the future.
     
    Biden sez that we as a nation are leaving Harriet Tubman $20 bills of black intellectual talent laying on the proverbial sidewalk.

    https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2016/03/harriet-tubman-20_2-e1459428962268.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I got lost in that sentence, did he start over in the middle there?

  135. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    Are you trying to out-ellipt Syonredux? At any rate, the plaintiff is a teenage girl.

    Of Mice and Menses.
     
    This is the idiotic crap that gets approved on this blog. Anything that wastes the time of White men and distracts them from addressing the obvious anti-White agenda.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Reg Cæsar

    It wasn’t approved, it simply wasn’t disapproved. If you want your comments to go through, try being less of a Chicken Little. It’s embarrassing.

    • Agree: vinteuil
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    What is "chicken little" about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  136. @Anonymous
    Steve, why a 'gay' sunset?
    - or do you mean 'gay' in its original, true sense meaning 'happy'?

    Replies: @Old Prude

    Yea, Steve, you seem uncharacteristically snarky about the video and the cartoon. Who peed in your cereal?

    Look the entire justification is a ruse, so why pick on the production value of propaganda? Just call it out as a scam to get honky’s money.

  137. @MEH 0910
    @Polistra

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Just imagine, if more incredibly creative and innovative… how much more creative and innovative we’d be if this nation held the historic black colleges and universities to the same opportunities and minority serving institutions that had the same funding and resources of public universities to compete for jobs and industries of the future.
     
    Biden sez that we as a nation are leaving Harriet Tubman $20 bills of black intellectual talent laying on the proverbial sidewalk.

    https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2016/03/harriet-tubman-20_2-e1459428962268.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    There’s no way that bill will circulate that much without several people scrawling “Coon”, “Kaffir”, “Jiggaboo”, “Mayate”, a noose and UNZ.COM all over it.

  138. Correct me if I’m wrong, Sidney, but don’t both the fence and mountain climbing examples prove that the problem is that blacks are stupid? Another way to interpret the fence story is that the father is simply selfish (he doesn’t need the box so give it to the kids) which is also a black characteristic.

    So the next question is, are the people dreaming these examples up stupid? It would be nice to think ones enemies are too stupid to ultimately win. OTOH, it may be that they are already winning, and so don’t think they have any ‘splaing to do anyway.

    Or maybe it’s like Dalrymple said about propaganda; you’re not supposed to believe it but submit.

  139. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @wren

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1350358566524252161

    , @El Dato
    @wren

    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

    Meanwhile:

    I don't know what's going on but the size of the fedgov is increasing a bit more.

    DOJ & EPA to get ‘Climate Justice’ offices under Biden’s executive orders

    I fear that, if they don't shut you down for racism, they will shut you down for climate injustice.

  140. @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    There are plenty of black Americans who do their best to adhere to traditional middle class norms, but the widespread tolerance on the left of hugely dysfunctional behavior and successful tarring of concerns about it as racist means their influence has been blunted for several generations.

    The black respectability politics of the mid-20th century put bourgeoise blacks at the peak of the black social order and provided social pressure on those below them to emulate them in their habits. Abandonment of that social norm and glorification (largely by lefty whites) of black radical politics led directly to the collapse of the black family, staggering crime rates, and the exodus of upwardly mobile blacks from mixed income urban neighborhoods to the suburbs.

    I am not saying that more widespread adoption of bourgeoise values is a panacea or would achieve real-life ‘equity’. But it would certainly mean an incremental decrease in the most dysfunctional cultural behaviors and the associated costs borne by the rest of us as a result.

    • Agree: FLgeezer
  141. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Luke Lea

    The problem is that conservatives, even Steve unfortunately, are so desperate to be principled and consistent that in the name of the perfectly legitimate goal of preventing abuse of whites by blacks they end up justifying the abuse of normal whites by rich whites.

    Rich whites need normal whites, without them there incomes would collapse and their wealth would be destroyed by inflation. Whites don't need blacks. Without blacks, whites would be better off by almost every criteria. Two entirely different relationships!

    The far left is wrong about race and right about economics. The black-white and the normal white-rich white relationships are two entirely different things. Get over it.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “the abuse of normal whites by rich whites”

    The satanic corruption of American and European elites has become the center of gravity of the western world. Blacks are simply golems for these cartels. And the brown and black overclass they have generated, particularly in the United States, is the new management team for the gradual liquidation of middle and working class whitey. This is our reward for fighting and dying in their internecine wars; for building the economies from which they derive their fortunes; for spilling our metaphorical blood and guts on stage for their amusement. Their final mocking gesture comes when these inbred bloodline husks use our genetically healthy children in their rituals.

  142. @Achmed E. Newman

    Republicans have been trained to denounce this as “Marxism,” but it’s actually Kendiism, the ideology of the enterprising capitalist/antiwhite racist Ibram X. Kendi, who has made a fortune lecturing that any racial inequality in performance is proof of inequity.

    But it’s safer for whites to sputter against Marxism than to deny Kendiism. Who dares tell Professor Kendi that the main reason in 2021 that blacks tend to perform poorly on many measures is not white racism?

     
    I'm no fad of this Ibram Kendi, believe me, but I don't agree with this "sputtering" against Marxism line. What is not Marxist about what these people are demanding with their equity talk - "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his means?" It's just that it's being demanded on a group basis now, instead of an individual basis.

    Racial Marxism: "From each group according to its abilities, to each group according to its means."

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr Mox

    I vaguely remember a cartoon from an old Punch magazine.

    A Marxist and a Capitalist are arguing:

    Capitalist:
    “So you say I should share my fortune with you. But what if I did, and you just spend your half?”

    Marxist:
    “That’s easy! We just split your fortune again.”

    • LOL: ziggurat
  143. Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline

    I well remember when another generation of save the earth idiots were rioting against nuclear power stations. They were funded by the Rockefeller foundation for obvious reasons to eliminate a competitive power source. Now the Rockefeller foundation is funding electrical power crusades . Maybe they bought some copper mines and copper wire factories in China. Or are building those charging stations for electric powered cars.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Alden


    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline.
     

    Do you have citations on this? I'm not saying you're wrong, but a lot of people repeat stuff they see on the internet assuming it's true when't it isn't. Especially about purported alterior economic motives behind certain actions.

    Biden shut down Phase IV of Keystone, which would have served the shale-oil fields in Montana. Phases I-III which bring oil from Canadian fields down to the Gulf coast have already been built and are in operation.

    Shutting down Phase IV won't stop the oil from being transported from either field, it will just make it more expensive. It's possible that Biden shut down Phase IV not because it benefitted Warren Buffet (although it's possible that did partially motivate him), but rather because he just doesn't care. It's not like he's gassing up his trans-am every weekend. The military he commands (or at least pretends to) will get all the oil it needs. The political class is almost completely insulated from the direct consequences of their actions. One of the GloboCap neo-lib programs is to make energy more expensive.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Alden

    , @Hibernian
    @Alden

    Warren Buffet in owning the Burlington Northern is a successor to 19th century RR barons John Murray Forbes of Boston and James J. Hill of St. Paul

    Also, in Chicago, in recent years, there's been a freight RR rebound in recent years. A lot of it is containers, but also a lot of it is oil in tankers. My residential neighborhood which saw only commuter and Amtrak trains up to about Y2K has seen a lot of freight trains in the last 15 years.

  144. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Turgid writing and strained displays of vocabulary will never gain you the intellectual equity you so palpably yearn for.

    Oh, excuse me, for which you so palpably yearn.

    Might I recommend tying the down-to-earth, folksy approach? It allows one to hide his shortcomings, whereas you have been standing there with your pants down for months.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @SunBakedSuburb

    “It allows one to hide his shortcomings”

    My method is to post a one hundred word treatise on the horror of mayonnaise or something else equally meaningless. I fool myself into believing a rhetorical smokescreen will cloud the reality of my tiny Irish penis. Although the Nine Steves bit is based on fact.

  145. @Jonathan Mason
    @Arclight


    They cannot admit that we reached the limit of what government can do to to ‘help’ people a long time ago, and persistent disparities reflect different levels of human capital and the product of different cultural habits.
     
    What about universal health care?

    Replies: @Arclight

    Yes, that might help improve people’s well-being, but what I was getting at was the myth that various government interventions would unlock previously-untapped potential in tens of millions of people at the bottom end of society to be artists, entrepreneurs, and scientists, etc.

    We have done all sorts of things – direct social welfare payments and housing subsidies, grants and easy to get federally subsidized student loans, creation of an entire Department of Education, affirmative action, decriminalization, and an income tax system that represents an annual massive redistribution of wealth. Through it all, the stubborn reality is that we are not all equal in terms of ability or effort and actual outcomes tend to shake out accordingly.

  146. @Jack D
    @Arclight


    the best thing we could do at this point is to encourage blacks to adopt essentially white bourgeoise values,
     
    The problem with this is that white bourgeois values are an uncomfortable fit for black people. Black men don't want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. Black kids don't want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant. They want to play basketball after school. For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it and reverted to more traditional patterns once the pressure was off.

    There is really nothing wrong with this EXCEPT insofar as the rest of us are expected to pay for it, either in the form of direct government subsidies or thru increased crime committed by fatherless black youth. The solution is not to force black people to be more like white people but to make it clear to them that they will have to bear the consequences of their choices if they don't.

    "Equity" means that you get to live like a white person without having to put in the hard work and sacrifices that are required, which is not equitable at all. You can live a "black" lifestyle but have a "white" standard of living. The "white" lifestyle (which is not really exclusively white - Asians are similar) requires a huge amount of self-sacrifice - studying for many years instead of having fun playing basketball, having only one mate instead of a variety, etc. But white people do it because they know that it is the only path to achieving a "white" standard of living. If you could achieve the "white" standard of living without having to make "white" sacrifices, that would be a dream (this is why every black youth is an "aspiring rapper" - an aspired rapper gets to live the dream). "Equity" is just such a dream.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Art Deco, @Anonymous, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar

    Black kids don’t want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant.

    Arclight said “white bourgeois values”, not “yellow (hyper-)bourgeois values”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    True, but my point is that blacks want to skip all that boring hard stuff and feel entitled to be "equitably" represented just by virtue of being born with black skin. And this is even before we begin the discussion of genetic differences in intelligence.

    Asians (they're wrong about this but you have to give them credit for trying) believe that everyone is capable of doing well in school - if you're not doing well that means you're not trying hard enough and have to work harder and practice more. When blacks aren't doing well, it's not because they have certain genetic deficiencies and it's not because they didn't put the work in, it's only because of invisible "structural racism". There's nothing that they need to be doing better - all that needs to happen is for white people to stop being racist.

    BTW, speaking of that "equitable" cartoon with the short kid standing on two boxes to make up for his lack of height, shouldn't we alter the rules of basketball and football to make it more "equitable" for Asians. When was the last time you saw a Vietnamese cornerback? An Indonesian basketball center? Shouldn't we be giving these guys stilts or a robot suit or something like that to make sports more equitable?

    Replies: @Templar

  147. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Examine the demographics of those countries at the time of inception of those systems. Now, examine our own.

    State-dependent programs have their own perils. Social Security and Medicare got us into Vietnam, for instance. Korea, too, arguably.

  148. @Anon7
    No one has discussed the second way of making sure that everything is nice and equal - you can raise one group up, sure. But you can also cut the other group down, which is being accomplished all over our society, but especially in schools.

    White boys have been on the defensive for two generations. They're penalized every single day they sit in a classroom with union teachers, who unfailingly promote the progressive Left party line. My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a "C" student. The woman who taught the class used every trick possible to get him this "C" grade, while simultaneously using the rest of her tricks to get an "A" for as many of the girls as possible.

    Fortunately, I intervened and long story short, he's working on his math PhD. But many white boys never recover.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Alden

    Might be why a pair of boy girl twins the girl always has an A average and the boy a B average. But most of their high school teachers are men. The boys tested IQ is 12 points higher. But the girl does 3 times as much studying. Affirmative action in action.

    How can a teacher manipulate first grade math? Isn’t 1+1 = 2 anymore?

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Alden

    After I reread my post, I realized that saying "first graded math class" was not clear. He was in the sixth grade, middle school, which is the first of the grades in which students are given grades. Sorry about that.

    It's a continuing mystery; boys outscore girls on both the SAT math and SAT verbal and have for several generations. Yet, girls have higher grade point averages than boys. I don't think girls do more studying. I think that school is now set up to advantage girls over boys, for purely political reasons. Girls are given advantageous conditions, and boys are given negative conditions.

    The end result is a damaged society, ripe for the picking by traditional societies, like China and India, in which boys are pushed to succeed. You get the most value over a lifetime of work from boys. And then there are the extraordinary boys who move the entire civilization forward.

    Replies: @Jack D

  149. @Just a regular guy
    Who’s gonna inform the black community that equality of outcome is impossible when your groups average IQ is 85? Gonna take a whole lotta equity to solve this problem. Lol

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @njguy73

    Make every test pass/fail, and make every test so easy that anyone who can fog a mirror can pass.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  150. @anon
    Semi OT: Kurt Schilling isn't going to be in the hall of fame this year. Probably not ever.

    Because politics. His politics are just not Woke, in fact they are Deplorable, so that's that.

    Replies: @njguy73

    He should have kept his mouth shut until he got elected, then said what he wanted.

    Worked for Steve Carlton.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @njguy73

    What did Carlton say? Is it really possible that my opinion of him isn’t high ENOUGH?

    Replies: @njguy73

  151. @JohnnyWalker123
    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Muggles, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason

    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Since when is stealing someone else’s ‘wealth’ a moral idea?

    You do realize that most billionaires (and even lesser) have their wealth tied up in shares, real estate, farms/ranches, operating businesses, etc. Why only 50%, why not 100% . Go full commie.

    This wealth isn’t sitting in bank vaults in piles of cash, a la Scrooge McDuck.

    Since when is giving (or confiscating) money to the government a good idea to solve problems?

    They run massive deficits every year by borrowing money, creating it out of thin air. So how many problems are being solved? Seems like the opposite is often true.

    I guess you are advocating the Chairman Xi solution at 50%. “Take that Jack Ma!” Why not go for 90% in the Kim Jong Un solution? See, N. Korea has solved all of their problems. According to your theory anyway.

    If your comment was supposed to be satire, I apologize. These days such ideas are rarely floated in jest.

  152. @ScarletNumber
    @Anon7


    My son experienced it in his first graded math classes, when he was labeled a “C” student.
     
    Yeah, no one believes this.

    Replies: @Anon7

    Scarlet! You’re back.

    Actually, I only told the quick version of this story because it’s one of the incidents that really brought me over from liberalism on this very site some years ago, and I’ve commented on it before.

    Here, see if you believe a longer version. My son was in the first few months of sixth grade, and I got an interim grade report saying he was getting a “C” in math. Not sure of what to do, I arranged for an appointment with his teacher.

    Oh, yes, she said. I divide grading into tests, homework and in class assignments. And your son is getting a “C” in all three, so that’s a “C”.

    Tell me about the tests, I said. She said that the tests consisted of 30-35 questions. I asked how many answers he got right out of the total possible. She said that my son always got all the answers right.

    What?

    He has to show his work, she insisted. Do you think that a kid who just writes down correct answers is a “C” student? I knew that he had terrible handwriting (and still does) and it’s hard for him. (*More busy work writing.)

    Okay, how about homework. Same story, he gets all the answers, but doesn’t show his work. Also, and more importantly, he doesn’t keep a neat notebook, with a table of contents, with all his homework, in order (*clerical speed and accuracy).

    And in class? Well, in class assignments are *very social in nature. Lots of *talking about how to do the problem. Lots of *extra writing. Lots of narrative driven *story problems. Once your son knows how to do a kind of problem, he loses interest, said the teacher.

    So, I went home and had a talk with my son. He decided to do extra math at a local tutoring place. He placed out of several years of junior high math. He finished BC calculus as a high school junior, and took Honors Math Analysis at the University in our university town as a high school senior. About 20 kids per year take it, because it involves about fifty hours of homework per week. One of those courses where, in the first semester, they don’t give you any numbers – you have to build the real numbers before you get to play with them. All proofs. As a college freshman, he took graduate level math and tutored senior engineering students on the tough parts.

    So what do you think, Scarlet? Good story telling, or a horror story about how talented boys are treated by female Leftist teacher’s union employees? I know, I know, you’re just one of the trolls who like to tweak Steve’s earnest commenters, but perhaps some of Steve’s current readers enjoyed it.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Anon7

    I enjoyed it. I was not as gifted at math as your son but I was good at it, and having to write down the working every time irked me. It's a burden and wastes time. I can understand why it would be demanded in exams but for homework, if the pupil always has the right answers they either understand what they're doing or they're cheating. A competent teacher can tell the difference.

    The story approach to math is a crock. Extracting the math problem from the verbiage is a skill in its own right and completely separate to the mathematical working. Same with social discussions. Sounds like the teacher was a huggybear who, like all huggybears, feared and loathed those who are less social (less dependent, in practice).

    , @nebulafox
    @Anon7

    The *exact* same thing happened to me at that age, except for the happy ending of accelerating my mathematics education, culminating in high school real analysis. Man, I wish you were around to give advice to my parents (not knocking them, they tried their best with their background and circumstances) when I was a kid!

    Ah, well: learning the math late is better than never learning it at all.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Anon7


    So what do you think, Scarlet?
     
    I had forgotten that you were the moron from a few weeks ago. Thank you for reinforcing my prior suspicion. I should really start keeping a list.

    Interestingly enough, Beth, Bath & Beyond is one of the stocks that are the focus of the current situation between Reddit and the hedgefunders. Hopefully someone here was able to make some money on it.
  153. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    Another observation is that here in Ecuador we have supermarkets, but buying food in supermarkets is much more expensive than buying food in the markets.

    No doubt this is due to the cost of paying for the convenience of new buildings, air conditioning, packaging, freezers, cashiers, computer systems, etc.

    But it is interesting that this more expensive way of distributing food is almost always the cheapest way of buying food in the United States, indicating that there must be huge inefficiencies in the market.

    For example I was once talking to a truck driver near Jacksonville who was delivering prepared salads from Tennessee to the Publix and Winn-Dixie supermarkets in Jacksonville.

    I commented that they must grow a lot of produce in Tennessee, and he said no it comes from all over, and it's just distributed from Tennessee.

    Now how it can be cost-effective to get fresh produce from all over, and then convert it into prepared salads in Tennessee, and then distribute to Florida claiming that it is fresh is completely beyond me, but somebody must be paying for this and somebody must be profiting from it.

    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.

    And in fact the executives of the massive corporations that distribute food in the US are paying themselves millions of dollars a year, so that is a lot of money being sucked out of the system that could provide jobs for many other people.

    This would all be wonderful if the people who do the backbreaking work of picking tomatoes, oranges, and peppers or working in meat processing factories were well paid and had great benefits, or while working that way through college, but they don't and they aren't.

    Americans are ragged-trousered philanthropists!

    Replies: @Jack D, @Muggles

    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.

    Yes, when you are totally ignorant about a subject, everything is a ‘bit of a mystery.’

    I hate to be so harsh, but there are literally thousands of books about economics, how markets work, and the details of logistics, economies of scale, cost accounting and profit and loss, et. al.

    Spoke and hub distribution makes a lot of sense for many reasons you might want to actually study.

    Personal time is a resource also, as others here note. In developed countries it makes sense to pay for time saving products and services. Subsistence lifestyles aren’t much fun. Do you want to stand around all day selling juice in small cups? Drink strange stuff from cups sold by the destitute? You can probably find that in some homeless camps in the States. But somehow actual stores and packaged products are preferred.

    Musical notation is ‘a bit of a mystery to me.’ But I don’t claim it is a waste of time or that those who sell or use sheet music are cheating those who do.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Muggles


    Musical notation is ‘a bit of a mystery to me.’
     
    Every Good Boy Deserves Fellatio
  154. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    Yes, Mexico has government health care systems. So why do Mexicans flock here for treatment, the ones who can? Even Canadians come here for rationed care not provided timely or at all there supposedly free.

    In every shithole country you usually find government “health systems.” Nearly all very lethal or non helpful. The developed nations can sometimes afford that, but it also relies on rationing and second rate doctors and facilities. Things are heavily taxed to pay for care.

    There are government plans for the very poor or those who choose not to work or pay for their own care. For others, the current system works pretty well.

    Aside from deliberately killing people, what are the services provided by government that are superior to private market solutions?

    • Replies: @anonsasmaug
    @Muggles

    The problem is we can't go back in time to when the costs associated with medical treatment were less.
    Most people just can't afford to go the doctor even with insurance or you can't afford good insurance. The same with housing, you can't afford a home, or if you do get in one you just live paycheck to paycheck and heaven help you you have to repair your home, you just can't afford it and how do you get back to a time when you can? It's not as simple as libertarians claim, and they all vote for democracy while crying let's be libertarian.
    Socialism can work but it can't work in a free open border society where certain groups suck the system dry and how could we ever get back to a time when we were the same people working for the same things?

    , @James O'Meara
    @Muggles

    O'Meara's Law: Anything Israel has is good (because the reason we don't have it is Jews hate us).

    Wikipedia:

    The Israeli healthcare system is based on the National Health Insurance Law of 1995, which mandates all citizens resident in the country to join one of four official health insurance organizations, known as Kupat Holim (קופת חולים - " Sick Funds ") which are run as not-for-profit organizations and are prohibited by law from denying any Israeli resident membership.

    It transcends the phony Left/Right spectrum (itself a tool used to corral the goyim). Thus:

    US: gun control, volunteer army
    Israel; compulsory gun ownership, compulsory military service (a la Heinlein).

    US: open borders
    Israel: walls, expulsions, etc. (note use of the words "resident" and "citizen" above)

    The only issue L/R agree on: War for Israel

    It's pretty simple, really.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Muggles

    I give you mucho kudos for trying, Mr. Muggles. You're just not gonna get anywhere trying to talk economic sense to Jonathan Mason. Been there, done that, would have made better use of my time panning for gold in our sewer main...

  155. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    This whole equity thing is about brown people and ugly chicks, right? Free money for brown people and compliant eunuchs for even the ugliest girls. And a white woman for every brown guy, natch. And monetary consolation prizes when the latter prove impossible.

    Seems doable, I think we can legislate heaven on Earth. And since mankind recently discovered the cure for death - viz, masks and social distancing and rolling lockdowns and a gene-altering vax - now more than ever we need our eternal lives to be pleasant as possible.

    Replies: @Alden

    It’s more about money than sex. What the liberals will do for money when all the money producing White men are gone I don’t know.

    All the liberal White boomers I know are sooo puzzled their 30 year old White sons can’t get a job with their STEM degrees. They still vote democrat and so do the discriminated against sons,

  156. OT: Volvo ad, America and Poland.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Rob McX

    That's hilarious, thanks. Wish I spoke more Polish than zimne piwo. Surprised the little car in the US ad doesn't have an electric plug, solar panels, a windmill or maybe sails

  157. I think we’re on the wrong track here, I’m sure this transition was motivated by a genuine desire to increase government efficiency and restrain unnecessary spending. Transforming from “Equality” to “Equity” will result in a long-term 20% savings in ink, each time it appears in a policy document.

    I just knew Joe was a reformer, deep down.

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
    @Charles St. Charles

    Oh! It’s even better than I thought - my math was wrong - “Equity” is a 25% savings over “Equality”!


    I think we’re on the wrong track here, I’m sure this transition was motivated by a genuine desire to increase government efficiency and restrain unnecessary spending. Transforming from “Equality” to “Equity” will result in a long-term 20% savings in ink, each time it appears in a policy document.

    I just knew Joe was a reformer, deep down.
     
  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Black kids don’t want to attend cram school every day after regular school so that they can get into Stuyvesant.
     
    Arclight said "white bourgeois values", not "yellow (hyper-)bourgeois values".

    Replies: @Jack D

    True, but my point is that blacks want to skip all that boring hard stuff and feel entitled to be “equitably” represented just by virtue of being born with black skin. And this is even before we begin the discussion of genetic differences in intelligence.

    Asians (they’re wrong about this but you have to give them credit for trying) believe that everyone is capable of doing well in school – if you’re not doing well that means you’re not trying hard enough and have to work harder and practice more. When blacks aren’t doing well, it’s not because they have certain genetic deficiencies and it’s not because they didn’t put the work in, it’s only because of invisible “structural racism”. There’s nothing that they need to be doing better – all that needs to happen is for white people to stop being racist.

    BTW, speaking of that “equitable” cartoon with the short kid standing on two boxes to make up for his lack of height, shouldn’t we alter the rules of basketball and football to make it more “equitable” for Asians. When was the last time you saw a Vietnamese cornerback? An Indonesian basketball center? Shouldn’t we be giving these guys stilts or a robot suit or something like that to make sports more equitable?

    • Replies: @Templar
    @Jack D

    .

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  159. @Anon
    Equity seemingly sprang forth from philosopher John Rawls's opus major A Theory of Justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society's goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.
     
    The lowbrow activists took this and ran. But Rawls went on ...

    What, then, could justify unequal distribution? Rawls argues that inequality is acceptable only if it is to the advantage of those who are worst-off.
     
    As a general, practically administratable policy, capitalism (i.e., defined as giving money to white people) makes life better for blacks. They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village.

    If you want to drill down to specific things like does Bill Gates having 400 square miles of farmland help blacks better than giving it to blacks, maybe you could make a case for taking it away from him. But if he had been subjected to that sort of scrutiny all his life, he never would have become a billionaire in the first place, and he never would have married a "Let's save all the blackies!" shrew and put her in charge of a foundation with a lot of money.

    The next step in this Rawlsian equity wave will hit the fan with Paige Harden's upcoming book, The Genetic Lottery, which makes the case that IQ is an unearned privilege.

    Success in our educational system is partially a result of genetic luck. No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which genetic variants he or she happens to inherit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.html
     
    This idea has been bubbling around in the academic virology lab for over 30 years and is about to escape from into the wild.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Charles St. Charles, @Anonymouse, @El Dato

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society’s goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.

    So the way to maximize your effort-to-reward ratio is to do nothing at all.

  160. SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The San Francisco school board has voted to remove the names of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln from public schools.

    After months of controversy, the board voted 6-1 Tuesday in favor of renaming 44 San Francisco school sites with new names with no connection to slavery, oppression, racism or similar criteria. Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s name was added to the list because as mayor she replaced a vandalized Confederate flag that was part of a long-standing flag display in front of City Hall.

    (In other SF-area equity news, or is it “equities,” Pelosi and hubby load up on Tesla stock, front-running fedgov plans to load up on electric vehicles)

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Known Fact


    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The San Francisco school board has voted to remove the names of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln from public schools.
     
    And not just Washington and Lincoln. They will be renaming schools currently named after Herbert Hoover, Thomas Jefferson, Roosevelt (they're not even sure which Roosevelt the school is named after - but out he goes regardless), John Muir, Robert Louis Stevenson, Generals Sheridan and Sherman, Commodores Sloat and Stockton, Balboa and all those other Spaniards. Even a school named after Diane Feinstein is getting renamed. They're renaming "Mission High School". I guess they'll have to rename the whole Mission District.

    It's Year Zero, baby!
  161. The end point of equity for blacks is race-based reparations. Whenever anyone reads equity, just replace it with reparations. All of the other POV on equity miss the point. Every Republican/Conservative/Trumpist should be quite clear that not only are reparations unworkable, reparations are unconstitutional based upon equal protection.

  162. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354177123393691649

    https://twitter.com/RevTranscripts/status/1354176040730587140

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Reg Cæsar, @guest007

    The Democrats are talking about equity as a justification for race-based reparations to reward the most loyal Democratic Party voters while being able to call anyone who opposes reparations a racist/fascist/nazi.

  163. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of equity, there is a very entertaining game of ‘chicken’ playing out for the last few days between hedge funds and redditors over Gamestop (GME). The big shorts are suddenly uncomfortable when retail day traders start buying stocks, forcing the shorts to cover.

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/25/gamestop-shares-spike-another-50-percent-amid-short-squeeze/

    Something similar is going on with AMC and Blackberry. I have my popcorn…

  164. @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, Mexico has government health care systems. So why do Mexicans flock here for treatment, the ones who can? Even Canadians come here for rationed care not provided timely or at all there supposedly free.

    In every shithole country you usually find government "health systems." Nearly all very lethal or non helpful. The developed nations can sometimes afford that, but it also relies on rationing and second rate doctors and facilities. Things are heavily taxed to pay for care.

    There are government plans for the very poor or those who choose not to work or pay for their own care. For others, the current system works pretty well.

    Aside from deliberately killing people, what are the services provided by government that are superior to private market solutions?

    Replies: @anonsasmaug, @James O'Meara, @Achmed E. Newman

    The problem is we can’t go back in time to when the costs associated with medical treatment were less.
    Most people just can’t afford to go the doctor even with insurance or you can’t afford good insurance. The same with housing, you can’t afford a home, or if you do get in one you just live paycheck to paycheck and heaven help you you have to repair your home, you just can’t afford it and how do you get back to a time when you can? It’s not as simple as libertarians claim, and they all vote for democracy while crying let’s be libertarian.
    Socialism can work but it can’t work in a free open border society where certain groups suck the system dry and how could we ever get back to a time when we were the same people working for the same things?

  165. @Rob McX
    OT: Volvo ad, America and Poland.

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iVPLZMsoo4w/YBF4qpQquKI/AAAAAAAAIL4/kFgODlbiI4EkQQ8NJLn7EfBdp9EC6kmwQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1131/Volvo-ad-America-vs-Poland.webp

    Replies: @Known Fact

    That’s hilarious, thanks. Wish I spoke more Polish than zimne piwo. Surprised the little car in the US ad doesn’t have an electric plug, solar panels, a windmill or maybe sails

  166. @Just a regular guy
    @Rob

    Blacks need whites in order to have any semblance of civilization. White people don’t need Africans at all. This is the fundamental issue. Africans left to themselves and you get at best Jamaica. White people left to themselves create Norway.

    Replies: @Travis, @Stan Adams

    Nords create Norway; Meds create Italy; Slavs create Russia.

  167. @Charles St. Charles
    I think we’re on the wrong track here, I’m sure this transition was motivated by a genuine desire to increase government efficiency and restrain unnecessary spending. Transforming from “Equality” to “Equity” will result in a long-term 20% savings in ink, each time it appears in a policy document.

    I just knew Joe was a reformer, deep down.

    Replies: @Charles St. Charles

    Oh! It’s even better than I thought – my math was wrong – “Equity” is a 25% savings over “Equality”!

    I think we’re on the wrong track here, I’m sure this transition was motivated by a genuine desire to increase government efficiency and restrain unnecessary spending. Transforming from “Equality” to “Equity” will result in a long-term 20% savings in ink, each time it appears in a policy document.

    I just knew Joe was a reformer, deep down.

  168. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    You selectively quoted me. This is what I actually wrote:


    This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America. .... For a brief time blacks were pressured in that direction but they never really liked it.
     

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Why? I don’t think there’s anything special about black people here. Until the postwar era, monogamy and nuclear family arrangements were the normative arrangement throughout American society, regardless of race or class: so normative that nobody bothered to question whether they were happy under it. Near I can tell, this was still normative during the slave-holding era, to the point where it was considered bad form for a “responsible” master to split up slave families through selling individuals: if anything, the most prominent exceptions tended to be slave concubines for Junior.

    (Africa: sure, but that’s the case for a lot of non-Western societies. Polygamy was widespread in China and Indonesia until Mao and Suharto, respectively. The nuclear family model was an outlier rooted in Europe: which happened to help create such successful societal results that societies that wished to modernize adopted it. It’s also worth noting that such polygamous families were concentrated in the well-to-do and the nobility, because they were the only ones who could afford multiple wives. The common people, ironically, tended to be more monogamous.)

    As I’ve said in previous comments, nuclear family models are more than ever tied into socioeconomic status. Not least because increased associative mating is a thing, socially and genetically. Many of the same forces that hit underclass black America first have been heavily impacting underclass white America. It took longer and it might not be as all-encompassing, but the dynamics at work don’t vary.

  169. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    Why is universal affordable healthcare that is not employer dependent an impossible dream when so many other countries have achieved it?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar, @Muggles, @nebulafox

    America’s got 350 million people spread across a continent, with vastly differing local bureaucracies competing with the cluster of federal bureaucracies. To say nothing of ridiculous rates of obesity, drug addiction, etc.

    I completely, totally agree that America’s health care system is messed up: I don’t think anyone not being paid by the health insurance industry would disagree with that. But you can’t just slap on a smaller country’s model and expect it to work, and I’m honestly leery of giving people like those below (Trust The Experts To Preserve Democracy, TM) more power than they already have.

  170. We can call it “Systemic Equitism”

  171. @wren
    Is Biden's top scientist actually a scientist?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inspired-choice-biden-appoints-sociologist-alondra-nelson-to-top-science-post/

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @El Dato

    • Thanks: wren
  172. @mr_dre
    The rot goes deep... notice the cartoon getting published in the prestigious journal Cell:

    https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)00011-8

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    The rot goes deep… notice the cartoon getting published in the prestigious journal Cell:

    • LOL: El Dato
  173. @Znzn
    @Jack D

    Have you ever been to India, their street food is even cheaper than Ecuador if that is what you are after.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    The term “false economy” comes to mind.

  174. Eagle Eye says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Hence, the rise in popularity of the word “equity,” a confusing but pleasing term that has connotations of fairness, justice, law, investments, and homeownership. “Equity” has traditionally had so many different technical definitions—a branch of law that was once distinct from the common law; the common stock of a corporation; or the value of a property above the amount of its mortgage—that it makes the person using the word sound smart, while disarming the confidence of listeners. (“She must be using ‘equity’ in one of those weird ways that educated people use. I’d better just nod along and not ask any questions so nobody will notice I don’t understand.”)
     
    This is not really the case. "Equity" is not actually a very recondite concept. In all its manifold uses, it simply means "dividing things such that everyone gets their due." As Aristotle put it, employing his customary concision: "It is when equal contributors get unequal shares, or unequal contributors equal shares, that disagreements and conflicts arise."

    Equity actually means the very opposite of what the Woke-ists are now using it to mean. I think this needs to be mentioned more often.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Buzz Mohawk, @El Dato, @James Speaks, @Mike_from_SGV, @Desiderius, @anon, @Eagle Eye

    Brilliant line in Steve’s piece:

    For some years now, the buzzword “equity” has been oozing out of the lowbrow fever swamps of the Schools of Education, where it had emerged as the politically correct replacement for the time-honored but therefore now-problematic term “equality.”

    Real teachers have substantive degrees in real subjects – math, history, biology, art, etc. Sadly, this simple principle has been leached clean from the brains of 95% of American parents through decades of MSM and Hollywood propaganda. Instead, school districts throughout the nation generally insist that principals and administrators be holders of “EdD” degrees in edumacation like Mrs. Joseph R. Biden.

  175. @Anon
    Equity seemingly sprang forth from philosopher John Rawls's opus major A Theory of Justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society's goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.
     
    The lowbrow activists took this and ran. But Rawls went on ...

    What, then, could justify unequal distribution? Rawls argues that inequality is acceptable only if it is to the advantage of those who are worst-off.
     
    As a general, practically administratable policy, capitalism (i.e., defined as giving money to white people) makes life better for blacks. They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village.

    If you want to drill down to specific things like does Bill Gates having 400 square miles of farmland help blacks better than giving it to blacks, maybe you could make a case for taking it away from him. But if he had been subjected to that sort of scrutiny all his life, he never would have become a billionaire in the first place, and he never would have married a "Let's save all the blackies!" shrew and put her in charge of a foundation with a lot of money.

    The next step in this Rawlsian equity wave will hit the fan with Paige Harden's upcoming book, The Genetic Lottery, which makes the case that IQ is an unearned privilege.

    Success in our educational system is partially a result of genetic luck. No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which genetic variants he or she happens to inherit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.html
     
    This idea has been bubbling around in the academic virology lab for over 30 years and is about to escape from into the wild.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Charles St. Charles, @Anonymouse, @El Dato

    Morality gone mad. Leads to vegetarianism. Would you change places with a cow or a worm or a dandelion? I have my genetic inheritance. I can’t change it or give it to someone else, so how is it a moral issue?

  176. @Known Fact
    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The San Francisco school board has voted to remove the names of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln from public schools.

    After months of controversy, the board voted 6-1 Tuesday in favor of renaming 44 San Francisco school sites with new names with no connection to slavery, oppression, racism or similar criteria. Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s name was added to the list because as mayor she replaced a vandalized Confederate flag that was part of a long-standing flag display in front of City Hall.

    (In other SF-area equity news, or is it "equities," Pelosi and hubby load up on Tesla stock, front-running fedgov plans to load up on electric vehicles)

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The San Francisco school board has voted to remove the names of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln from public schools.

    And not just Washington and Lincoln. They will be renaming schools currently named after Herbert Hoover, Thomas Jefferson, Roosevelt (they’re not even sure which Roosevelt the school is named after – but out he goes regardless), John Muir, Robert Louis Stevenson, Generals Sheridan and Sherman, Commodores Sloat and Stockton, Balboa and all those other Spaniards. Even a school named after Diane Feinstein is getting renamed. They’re renaming “Mission High School”. I guess they’ll have to rename the whole Mission District.

    It’s Year Zero, baby!

  177. @Alden
    @Anon7

    Might be why a pair of boy girl twins the girl always has an A average and the boy a B average. But most of their high school teachers are men. The boys tested IQ is 12 points higher. But the girl does 3 times as much studying. Affirmative action in action.

    How can a teacher manipulate first grade math? Isn’t 1+1 = 2 anymore?

    Replies: @Anon7

    After I reread my post, I realized that saying “first graded math class” was not clear. He was in the sixth grade, middle school, which is the first of the grades in which students are given grades. Sorry about that.

    It’s a continuing mystery; boys outscore girls on both the SAT math and SAT verbal and have for several generations. Yet, girls have higher grade point averages than boys. I don’t think girls do more studying. I think that school is now set up to advantage girls over boys, for purely political reasons. Girls are given advantageous conditions, and boys are given negative conditions.

    The end result is a damaged society, ripe for the picking by traditional societies, like China and India, in which boys are pushed to succeed. You get the most value over a lifetime of work from boys. And then there are the extraordinary boys who move the entire civilization forward.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon7


    I think that school is now set up to advantage girls over boys, for purely political reasons.
     
    I don't think it's purely political. Rather, schools (being mostly female run) award grades not just for test scores (as you say, boys do better on tests) but on all sorts of other measures (conduct, homework, neatness, class participation, etc.) which girls are better at. The ability to color within the lines has little to do with intelligence or creativity.

    Girls are more compliant and rule following than boys. In younger grades they are better able to sit still. This means that they commit fewer crimes but also that they invent less stuff.
  178. @milthoslayer
    The proper response when faced with talk of "equity" is simply to play dumb and say that you favor "equity of opportunity" rather than "equity of result". Then let your interlocutor tire himself out as he attempts to explain that your position is an oxymoron.

    Replies: @anon, @Hibernian

    you favor “equity of opportunity” rather than “equity of result”.

  179. @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, Mexico has government health care systems. So why do Mexicans flock here for treatment, the ones who can? Even Canadians come here for rationed care not provided timely or at all there supposedly free.

    In every shithole country you usually find government "health systems." Nearly all very lethal or non helpful. The developed nations can sometimes afford that, but it also relies on rationing and second rate doctors and facilities. Things are heavily taxed to pay for care.

    There are government plans for the very poor or those who choose not to work or pay for their own care. For others, the current system works pretty well.

    Aside from deliberately killing people, what are the services provided by government that are superior to private market solutions?

    Replies: @anonsasmaug, @James O'Meara, @Achmed E. Newman

    O’Meara’s Law: Anything Israel has is good (because the reason we don’t have it is Jews hate us).

    Wikipedia:

    The Israeli healthcare system is based on the National Health Insurance Law of 1995, which mandates all citizens resident in the country to join one of four official health insurance organizations, known as Kupat Holim (קופת חולים – ” Sick Funds “) which are run as not-for-profit organizations and are prohibited by law from denying any Israeli resident membership.

    It transcends the phony Left/Right spectrum (itself a tool used to corral the goyim). Thus:

    US: gun control, volunteer army
    Israel; compulsory gun ownership, compulsory military service (a la Heinlein).

    US: open borders
    Israel: walls, expulsions, etc. (note use of the words “resident” and “citizen” above)

    The only issue L/R agree on: War for Israel

    It’s pretty simple, really.

    • Replies: @anon
    @James O'Meara

    US: gun control, volunteer army
    Israel; compulsory gun ownership, compulsory military service (a la Heinlein).


    Citation required: show how Israel compels gun ownership.
    Suggest you start with the Kibbutz era and move forward in time.

  180. @wren
    Is Biden's top scientist actually a scientist?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inspired-choice-biden-appoints-sociologist-alondra-nelson-to-top-science-post/

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @El Dato

    Meanwhile:

    I don’t know what’s going on but the size of the fedgov is increasing a bit more.

    DOJ & EPA to get ‘Climate Justice’ offices under Biden’s executive orders

    I fear that, if they don’t shut you down for racism, they will shut you down for climate injustice.

  181. @J.Ross
    @Anon7

    I experienced multiple things like this, my parents actually pulled me out of the school system I was in because of it. Even before woke there were teachers with chips on their shoulders who would not accept a correct answer from a student they hated. I recall the opening of A League Of Their Own where the grandma does not advocate a free experiment or even chance, but instead skews the result based on an assumption of inferiority moderated by fake charity. That's the model here. Success doesn't matter, let X win (and Y lose) because of social justice.

    Replies: @Anon7

    As Steve says

    “Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve. Politicians who laud “equity” are, in effect, inevitably promising racial quotas at the expense of the careers of competent white men and their families.

    And like you say, the result is not left to chance. That’s why Leftists and most women advocate for socialism; the outcome is determined by law, not by chance and not by ability.

    As the Rich Dad Poor Dad guy points out, it’s also an essential difference between people who use education to get a job (Poor Dad) and those who compete in a capitalist system (Rich Dad). People who get higher degrees are used to a sure thing; you put in the years of study and you are guaranteed a degree at the end, and probably a job (except under Biden’s open borders, of course).

    OTOH, people who compete in business are guaranteed nothing. I’ve spent a year building an online business, 2500 hours of honest work, and had it fail. Entrepreneurship is not for everyone, but people who can do it need to be richly rewarded, because that’s where all those jobs come from, not to mention a country’s wealth.

  182. @Alden
    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline

    I well remember when another generation of save the earth idiots were rioting against nuclear power stations. They were funded by the Rockefeller foundation for obvious reasons to eliminate a competitive power source. Now the Rockefeller foundation is funding electrical power crusades . Maybe they bought some copper mines and copper wire factories in China. Or are building those charging stations for electric powered cars.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian

    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline.

    Do you have citations on this? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but a lot of people repeat stuff they see on the internet assuming it’s true when’t it isn’t. Especially about purported alterior economic motives behind certain actions.

    Biden shut down Phase IV of Keystone, which would have served the shale-oil fields in Montana. Phases I-III which bring oil from Canadian fields down to the Gulf coast have already been built and are in operation.

    Shutting down Phase IV won’t stop the oil from being transported from either field, it will just make it more expensive. It’s possible that Biden shut down Phase IV not because it benefitted Warren Buffet (although it’s possible that did partially motivate him), but rather because he just doesn’t care. It’s not like he’s gassing up his trans-am every weekend. The military he commands (or at least pretends to) will get all the oil it needs. The political class is almost completely insulated from the direct consequences of their actions. One of the GloboCap neo-lib programs is to make energy more expensive.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Mr. Anon

    Buffett's railroad interests go back years.

    https://www.wyattresearch.com/article/top-railroad-stocks/

    , @Alden
    @Mr. Anon

    That’s Bill Ayers Common Core Math. The note book is a portfolio. The neatness and upkeep of the portfolio is judged by the teacher. White boy grade F. Blacks perfect A no matter how messy the blacks portfolio is or if the portfolio is totally empty.

    40 portfolio 20 percent show your work 30 percent * group problem solving 10 percent correct answers.

    * group problem solving is 5 kids the smartest ones do all the work, everybody gets the same grade. With colleges ending the SATs bright kids who got mediocre grades because of race sex discrimination can’t prove they are really top students.

    The teacher had no choice. She has to grade that way. White men really really need to get themselves together and do something about their descent into unemployable untouchable pariah caste. Ranting about abortion birth control tattoos green hair and hypergamy on the internet doesn’t help.

    Where do you guys live anyway? I never see tattoos. And I have 8 teen and early 20s grandchildren, they have lots of friends and I live near a university. And I never see tattoos

  183. @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Black men don’t want to marry one woman and stay with her his whole life. This has never been the traditional arrangement for blacks, neither in Africa or under slavery in America.
     
    Are you sure that monogamy/marriage was not the traditional arrangement for blacks under “slavery” in America? Could you provide a reference for that proposition?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Slaves were property and could not legally marry any more than your horses can marry each other.

    “Colonial and antebellum legislation and jurisprudence
    prohibited marriages between bonded slaves.”

    https://digitalcommons.law.lsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1262&context=faculty_scholarship

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Jack D

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0649794/


    Ed the Bridegroom
    [...]
    Ed wants Wilbur to help him get married to another horse, and Carol's father thinks that Wilbur is in need of mental help.
     
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMGI3MGFhMWUtMTIxMS00OGUzLTkxMjYtMzZiNDVlOTM5MT[email protected]_V1_.jpg
  184. @Anon7
    @Alden

    After I reread my post, I realized that saying "first graded math class" was not clear. He was in the sixth grade, middle school, which is the first of the grades in which students are given grades. Sorry about that.

    It's a continuing mystery; boys outscore girls on both the SAT math and SAT verbal and have for several generations. Yet, girls have higher grade point averages than boys. I don't think girls do more studying. I think that school is now set up to advantage girls over boys, for purely political reasons. Girls are given advantageous conditions, and boys are given negative conditions.

    The end result is a damaged society, ripe for the picking by traditional societies, like China and India, in which boys are pushed to succeed. You get the most value over a lifetime of work from boys. And then there are the extraordinary boys who move the entire civilization forward.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I think that school is now set up to advantage girls over boys, for purely political reasons.

    I don’t think it’s purely political. Rather, schools (being mostly female run) award grades not just for test scores (as you say, boys do better on tests) but on all sorts of other measures (conduct, homework, neatness, class participation, etc.) which girls are better at. The ability to color within the lines has little to do with intelligence or creativity.

    Girls are more compliant and rule following than boys. In younger grades they are better able to sit still. This means that they commit fewer crimes but also that they invent less stuff.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  185. @Rob McX

    Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve.
     
    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it's impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we're born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people's private lives from birth onwards.

    Replies: @Polistra, @AnotherDad, @Uncle Dan

    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it’s impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we’re born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.

    Very well said Rob.

    There is zero doubt that a lot of people–and a much higher percentage of blacks–do indeed start out “in the hole”. Basically because they have crappy parents.

    Our society can–through government–take reasonable measures to try and equalize opportunity through measures like universal education. But to really make everyone’s opportunities equal requires an absolute–greater than North Korean level–kids-in-camp level of totalitarian dystopia, that ought to be an anathema to any free people.

    And then the video’s big lie: Even if you managed to impose a totalitarian regime sufficient to start everyone at the same place … not everyone is as good at climbing the mountain so we don’t “all end up in the same place” regardless. That’s the biggest source of “inequality”–crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but … crappy genes!

    Any sane, mature, sensible society supports opportunity for all, but accepts that not all people get the same deal, nor end up in the same place … because not all people same.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @AnotherDad


    That’s the biggest source of “inequality”–crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but … crappy genes!
     
    And since blacks do crappier as a group, it just has to be that blacks have a crappier environment as a group, or else...that means blacks have crappier genes as a group!

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/magazine/rights-exempt/2018/04/genetics/genetics-code-projected-face-african-man-crop.adapt.1900.1.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato

  186. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/29/knighthood-white-supremacy-433569

    Please read this Steve. I’d love to see blacks succeed in academia, but success should entail a valid and reliable quest for the truth. Suggesting that blacks and whites lived side by side in Medieval England has to be one of the most ignorant claims I’ve seen an academic make.

    I sent notice to politico and was told “an opinion piece is not an academic article.” The author seems like he has cashed in on the racial grievance industry.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @huskerdu

    First things first:

    https://www.cordwhitaker.com/


    Dr. Cord Whitaker is an expert in the literature of the Middle Ages and the history of race. A Philadelphia native and Yale graduate, Cord is Associate Professor of English at Wellesley College.
     
    Talk about Cultural Appropriation, Johnny!

    I guess he's had some success with the white ladies and maybe will land a contract with Hollywood.

    Take it away Dr. Whitaker:


    I’m a medievalist, and for years now, I have researched and lectured about how the idea of chivalry motivates white supremacists. They apply it to multiple objects. They defend their families. They defend their neighborhoods. They defend their way of life.
     
    Pray for Multiculturalism, when there will be nothing to defend. Only the Black Man, roaming freely as he pleases.

    Also, this just in:

    Leicester uni to axe 145 jobs, with medieval studies and English language set to sink to create a woke 'decolonised curriculum'


    Cash-strapped University of Leicester is to cut dozens of jobs. Apparently, courses on race, sexuality and diversity will be spared the chopping block while professors teaching the English language should seek new employment.

    On Monday, the university disclosed details about its downsizing plans. Due to Covid-19, its income flows have dried up, so some of its 3,800 staff will have to go, with as many as 145 jobs slated to become redundant.

    An email explaining the situation and announcing a 90-day consultation period was sent to employees, and some of them were quite unhappy with the management's rationale for selecting which areas should be "disinvested."

    Apparently, among the primary candidates to be relieved of duty are teachers of medieval and early modern literature, along with the English language. But "innovative and thematically driven" courses are quite safe, including "modules on race, ethnicity, sexuality and diversity" – all of which will help protect a "decolonised curriculum," according to an extract from the letter published on social media.
     

    In 20 years, you will learn how Hidden Figures from sub-Saharan Africa based in Egypt were looking for the Holy Grail in Cumbria.
  187. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Slaves were property and could not legally marry any more than your horses can marry each other.


    "Colonial and antebellum legislation and jurisprudence
    prohibited marriages between bonded slaves."

     

    https://digitalcommons.law.lsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1262&context=faculty_scholarship

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0649794/

    Ed the Bridegroom
    […]
    Ed wants Wilbur to help him get married to another horse, and Carol’s father thinks that Wilbur is in need of mental help.

  188. @Anon
    Equity seemingly sprang forth from philosopher John Rawls's opus major A Theory of Justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice

    Rawls wrote that each member of society has an equal claim on their society's goods. Natural attributes should not affect this claim, so the basic right of any individual, before further considerations are taken into account, must be to an equal share in material wealth.
     
    The lowbrow activists took this and ran. But Rawls went on ...

    What, then, could justify unequal distribution? Rawls argues that inequality is acceptable only if it is to the advantage of those who are worst-off.
     
    As a general, practically administratable policy, capitalism (i.e., defined as giving money to white people) makes life better for blacks. They live at the bottom level of a wealthy society, which is better than living at the middle or top level of an African village.

    If you want to drill down to specific things like does Bill Gates having 400 square miles of farmland help blacks better than giving it to blacks, maybe you could make a case for taking it away from him. But if he had been subjected to that sort of scrutiny all his life, he never would have become a billionaire in the first place, and he never would have married a "Let's save all the blackies!" shrew and put her in charge of a foundation with a lot of money.

    The next step in this Rawlsian equity wave will hit the fan with Paige Harden's upcoming book, The Genetic Lottery, which makes the case that IQ is an unearned privilege.

    Success in our educational system is partially a result of genetic luck. No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which genetic variants he or she happens to inherit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/opinion/dna-nature-genetics-education.html
     
    This idea has been bubbling around in the academic virology lab for over 30 years and is about to escape from into the wild.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Charles St. Charles, @Anonymouse, @El Dato

    No one earned his or her DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it.

    You don’t “earn” it, you are it.

    That’s going to lead to Pol-Potism really quickly.

    These imaginary unicorn societies apparently do not need to police themselves and never have resource or growth or war or violence problems. It’s all like a bit forever birthday party. Everyone gets a piece of the shared cake.

    Then it turns out that nobody is capable of making a cake. Or possibly even conceiving of a cake. As replacement activity, they throw shit at each other.

    Then we hear moaning about the glorious 60’000 years of abo culture and cargo cults about wooden rocket based space programmes take hold. +1 for effort I guess.

  189. @njguy73
    @anon

    He should have kept his mouth shut until he got elected, then said what he wanted.

    Worked for Steve Carlton.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    What did Carlton say? Is it really possible that my opinion of him isn’t high ENOUGH?

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Ben tillman

    See "Media charges of bigotry and anti-Semitism."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Carlton#Legacy

  190. @Anon
    @photondancer

    As a young man Rawls was one of MacArthur's nation builders in Japan after the war, trying to set things up so the Japanese would abandon their moral depravity (as the American saw it). Although Americans like to think that Japan was a big, in general they ignored most of the stuff forced on them. For instance, the have a full-time blown army, navy, and air force, prohibited by the American-written constitution (although we now approve of their military), and Article 29 giving the national government the right of enminent domain is hardly ever used, resulting in a farm and a shrine in the middle of a runway at Narita international.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They’re called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Hibernian


    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They’re called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

     

    The name "Self Defense Forces" is a fig leaf. Prime Minister Abe wanted to expand their use, and I saw a panel of political commentators discussing it. Someone wondered how it would pass muster with Article 9 of the consitution. Everyone laughed. After you've already ignored the provision for not having a military everything else is minor.

    The military is not that small. For instance, it's several times bigger than Canada's. Americans have a warped idea of the military. The U.S. has 11 full-sized aircraft carriers. China, Italy, and Spain have 2. Four other countries, including Russia, have 1. Japan has pretty cool helicopter/VTOL carriers however. Right now a subscription dad toy company is selling a weekly model kit via bookstores to make a giant 1:240 metal reproduction of the Japanese carrier flagship, with remote control lights and motos. It puts Lego models to shame.

    https://deagostini.jp/site/izu/pretop/images/main_img.png

    https://deagostini.jp/izu/

    Replies: @El Dato

  191. @AnotherDad
    @Rob McX


    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it’s impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we’re born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people’s private lives from birth onwards.
     
    Very well said Rob.

    There is zero doubt that a lot of people--and a much higher percentage of blacks--do indeed start out "in the hole". Basically because they have crappy parents.

    Our society can--through government--take reasonable measures to try and equalize opportunity through measures like universal education. But to really make everyone's opportunities equal requires an absolute--greater than North Korean level--kids-in-camp level of totalitarian dystopia, that ought to be an anathema to any free people.

    And then the video's big lie: Even if you managed to impose a totalitarian regime sufficient to start everyone at the same place ... not everyone is as good at climbing the mountain so we don't "all end up in the same place" regardless. That's the biggest source of "inequality"--crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but ... crappy genes!


    Any sane, mature, sensible society supports opportunity for all, but accepts that not all people get the same deal, nor end up in the same place ... because not all people same.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    That’s the biggest source of “inequality”–crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but … crappy genes!

    And since blacks do crappier as a group, it just has to be that blacks have a crappier environment as a group, or else…that means blacks have crappier genes as a group!

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    That soulful accusing and vaguely mocking look of the DNA gangsta.

    https://i.postimg.cc/vBB9B4z3/jurassic-park-dino-dna.jpg

  192. @milthoslayer
    The proper response when faced with talk of "equity" is simply to play dumb and say that you favor "equity of opportunity" rather than "equity of result". Then let your interlocutor tire himself out as he attempts to explain that your position is an oxymoron.

    Replies: @anon, @Hibernian

    I think they’ll catch on to that pretty fast. Standard Leftist dogma is that anyone who doesn’t swallow their doctrine, hook, line, and sinker, is a racist, reactionary, etc.

  193. @Anon
    OT: In India, Modi just yanked the subsidy for small farmers. India has 126 million small farmers. A country will a small population and plenty of job openings could get away with this, but not India. No country with a big population at the subsistence level dares go full capitalist with the food supply, because if the entire small-farming sector goes belly-up, widespread starvation can result before the situation can stabilize itself again.

    If those farmers are forced off their land, there's going to be 126 million head-of-household farming Indians and their families (with wife and approximately 2 kids a piece, that's HALF A BILLION) people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they'll head to the US and any other place that will take them.

    Modi's making a serious attempt to annihilate all the poor people in India--the hard, nasty, meaner-than-Hitler way.

    Between Bonehead Biden and Moron Modi's crisis, our largest minority population may soon be Indian instead of Hispanic. I'm willing to bet 5 bucks that Modi deliberately waited to do this until Biden had won office and had turned US policy pro-immigration again. Modi's trying to make the US his dumpster for his own country's problems.

    Even worse, Biden's an idiot that Modi can play like pro. It'll collapse our social welfare system if we let tens of millions of poverty stricken Indians flood in and make our unemployment problems unsolvable. Europe's going to have another immigration crisis, too.

    Another reason why Modi did this: Kamala Harris is INDIAN. She won't say no to large scale Indian immigration to this country.

    Replies: @Polistra, @El Dato, @AnotherDad

    Riot police fired tear gas but were greatly outnumbered and eventually had to fall back, such were the overwhelming numbers of irate farmers and agricultural workers who eventually stormed the country’s historic Red Fort complex.

    As bluechecks would scream: SEDITION!

  194. @Alden
    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline

    I well remember when another generation of save the earth idiots were rioting against nuclear power stations. They were funded by the Rockefeller foundation for obvious reasons to eliminate a competitive power source. Now the Rockefeller foundation is funding electrical power crusades . Maybe they bought some copper mines and copper wire factories in China. Or are building those charging stations for electric powered cars.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian

    Warren Buffet in owning the Burlington Northern is a successor to 19th century RR barons John Murray Forbes of Boston and James J. Hill of St. Paul

    Also, in Chicago, in recent years, there’s been a freight RR rebound in recent years. A lot of it is containers, but also a lot of it is oil in tankers. My residential neighborhood which saw only commuter and Amtrak trains up to about Y2K has seen a lot of freight trains in the last 15 years.

  195. @James O'Meara
    @Muggles

    O'Meara's Law: Anything Israel has is good (because the reason we don't have it is Jews hate us).

    Wikipedia:

    The Israeli healthcare system is based on the National Health Insurance Law of 1995, which mandates all citizens resident in the country to join one of four official health insurance organizations, known as Kupat Holim (קופת חולים - " Sick Funds ") which are run as not-for-profit organizations and are prohibited by law from denying any Israeli resident membership.

    It transcends the phony Left/Right spectrum (itself a tool used to corral the goyim). Thus:

    US: gun control, volunteer army
    Israel; compulsory gun ownership, compulsory military service (a la Heinlein).

    US: open borders
    Israel: walls, expulsions, etc. (note use of the words "resident" and "citizen" above)

    The only issue L/R agree on: War for Israel

    It's pretty simple, really.

    Replies: @anon

    US: gun control, volunteer army
    Israel; compulsory gun ownership, compulsory military service (a la Heinlein).

    Citation required: show how Israel compels gun ownership.
    Suggest you start with the Kibbutz era and move forward in time.

  196. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of property.

    “Many white immigrants arrived in colonial America as indentured servants, usually as young men and women from Britain or Germany, under the age of 21. Typically, the father of a teenager would sign the legal papers, and work out an arrangement with a ship captain, who would not charge the father any money.[20] The captain would transport the indentured servants to the American colonies, and sell their legal papers to someone who needed workers. At the end of the indenture, the young person was given a new suit of clothes and was free to leave. Many immediately set out to begin their own farms, while others used their newly acquired skills to pursue a trade.[21][22][23] A few became sufficiently prosperous that they were eventually able to acquire indentured servants of their own.[24]

    Given the high death rate, many servants did not live to the end of their terms.[19] In the 18th and early 19th century, numerous Europeans, mostly from outside the British Isles, traveled to the colonies as redemptioners, a particularly harsh form of indenture.[25]

    Indentured servants were a separate category from bound apprentices. The latter were American-born children, usually orphans or from an impoverished family who could not care for them. They were under the control of courts and were bound out to work as an apprentice until a certain age. Two famous bound apprentices were Benjamin Franklin who illegally fled his apprenticeship to his brother, and Andrew Johnson, who later became President of the United States.[26]

    George Washington used indentured servants;[27] in April 1775, he offered a reward for the return of two runaway white servants.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude_in_British_America

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon

    Basically indentured servants were slaves for a term of years, while actual slaves had life sentences (and the status was hereditary too). Otherwise there was not much difference. Note that slaves could also purchase their own freedom and once they were free they could also own land, pursue a trade, etc.

    Slavery in the 17th and 18th century in the original Southern colonies was relatively gentle and the slaves might have come in for a soft landing and been gradually liberated or sent back to Africa. A lot of the slaves were taught skills such as carpentry, iron work, cooking, etc. and once they were freed they could have supported themselves. In the Low Country of S. Carolina, the slaves were more familiar with how to grow rice than white people, because they came from rice growing regions. But sugar cane and especially cotton changed the economics of slavery - there was a cotton boom and cotton was hugely profitable and required a lot of slave labor. And there was no need to teach these slaves a skilled trade. You could learn how to pick cotton in 5 minutes.

  197. @JohnnyWalker123
    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Muggles, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason

    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    More useful would be 1% financial transactions tax.

    One of the (many) things that has gone wrong in the United States is that the middle men rather than the producers are in charge, and have increasingly pushed policies that create looting opportunities for non-productive activity.

    We have a plethora of people making money in non-productive–what are supposed to be “support” activities; finance, law, lobbying, government–activities, taking a nice whack of the money that floats by.

    But all this non-productive glop must be supported by–comes at the expense of–productive activity or by selling off US assets to foreigners, or the Fed simply printing money both of which run down the future prosperity of Americans.

    Tax the bullshit activity and orient the US economy–capital and labor–back toward real production.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @AnotherDad

    “Real production here” would mean we’d actually MAKE things here!

    And that would require hiring workers who actually live here ( Americans, for gosh sake!) to work in the factories here.

    And that would create tens of millions of jobs for ordinary Americans who could then access the middle-class WITHOUT the need for the intellectual skills which most of them don’t have in the first place!

    And that would greatly ease our current racial and social tensions. Why, it would even make a much more united and happy America!

    Which is why TPTB will never allow it . . .

  198. @huskerdu
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/29/knighthood-white-supremacy-433569


    Please read this Steve. I'd love to see blacks succeed in academia, but success should entail a valid and reliable quest for the truth. Suggesting that blacks and whites lived side by side in Medieval England has to be one of the most ignorant claims I've seen an academic make.

    I sent notice to politico and was told "an opinion piece is not an academic article." The author seems like he has cashed in on the racial grievance industry.

    Replies: @El Dato

    First things first:

    https://www.cordwhitaker.com/

    Dr. Cord Whitaker is an expert in the literature of the Middle Ages and the history of race. A Philadelphia native and Yale graduate, Cord is Associate Professor of English at Wellesley College.

    Talk about Cultural Appropriation, Johnny!

    I guess he’s had some success with the white ladies and maybe will land a contract with Hollywood.

    Take it away Dr. Whitaker:

    I’m a medievalist, and for years now, I have researched and lectured about how the idea of chivalry motivates white supremacists. They apply it to multiple objects. They defend their families. They defend their neighborhoods. They defend their way of life.

    Pray for Multiculturalism, when there will be nothing to defend. Only the Black Man, roaming freely as he pleases.

    Also, this just in:

    Leicester uni to axe 145 jobs, with medieval studies and English language set to sink to create a woke ‘decolonised curriculum’

    Cash-strapped University of Leicester is to cut dozens of jobs. Apparently, courses on race, sexuality and diversity will be spared the chopping block while professors teaching the English language should seek new employment.

    On Monday, the university disclosed details about its downsizing plans. Due to Covid-19, its income flows have dried up, so some of its 3,800 staff will have to go, with as many as 145 jobs slated to become redundant.

    An email explaining the situation and announcing a 90-day consultation period was sent to employees, and some of them were quite unhappy with the management’s rationale for selecting which areas should be “disinvested.”

    Apparently, among the primary candidates to be relieved of duty are teachers of medieval and early modern literature, along with the English language. But “innovative and thematically driven” courses are quite safe, including “modules on race, ethnicity, sexuality and diversity” – all of which will help protect a “decolonised curriculum,” according to an extract from the letter published on social media.

    In 20 years, you will learn how Hidden Figures from sub-Saharan Africa based in Egypt were looking for the Holy Grail in Cumbria.

  199. @Technite78
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Taxing unrealized gains is unrealizable.

    By definition, an unrealized gain is the current market value of an asset subtracted by its cost basis.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    For those that it is relatively straightforward to determine unrealized gain (i.e. listed stocks, suburban homes, etc)... their value will drop precipitously relative to those that are easily manipulated.

    BTW, taxing gains (realized or unrealized) without adjusting for inflation *is* taxing wealth. And we already do that.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne

    I agree we should adjust for inflation. But a billionaire has his wealth in liquid assets and assets that he is constantly having assessed and borrowing against. For everything else you can adjust his gains rate UP based on years held when they do sell to make it equivalent to having paid a yearly tax and periodically force an estate assessment similar to what would happen when he dies. It’s 100% feasible.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    That’s not in any way specific to taxing unrealized gains.

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Making a very large change to the ways in which taxes are assessed (i.e. making unrealized gains taxable by attempting to determine the current value of all assets) will change behavior. There will be a large incentive to obfuscate the value of assets and/or hold illiquid assets until they need to be sold. Billionaires have plenty of ways to generate cash without having to sell assets.

    And what about the rest of us? Will we have to pay taxes on the appreciation of our homes every year? The appreciation of our 401K accounts? Pension plans? Or will all that be exempt?

    I'm no billionaire, but I've been putting money into stocks/bonds/real estate during my entire working career... if I would have had to pay taxes at the capital gains rate on unrealized gains every year I'd have a fraction of my current nest egg.

  200. “…so that everyone can be on equal footing and then compete on equal footing.”

    And after competing, they are no longer on ‘equal footing.’

    Sad.

  201. @MEH 0910
    @Hypnotoad666

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-on-executive-orders-for-racial-equity-transcript-january-26


    Today, I’m directing federal agencies to combat the surges of xenophobia, particularly against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, that we’ve seen skyrocket during this pandemic. This is unacceptable. And it’s un-American. I’ve asked the Department of Justice to strengthen his partnership with the Asian American and Pacific Islander community to prevent those hate crimes. I’ve also asked the Department of Health and Human Services to put out best practices for combating xenophobia in our national response to COVID.
     
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-jen-psaki-white-house-press-conference-transcript-january-26

    And the president will sign a memorandum, directing all federal agencies to take steps to combat xenophobia and acts of violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, who have been targeted by political leaders in our nation’s response to COVID-19.
     

    Replies: @photondancer, @Polistra, @Hypnotoad666, @Elmer T. Jones

    Vietnamese voted for Trump, in part because of violence perpetrated on them by blacks that was encouraged by Democrats.

  202. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oops, too sleepy! Thank you, Jack D.

    Racial Marxism: "From each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its needs." It's the new, new Communism. Enjoy, suckers!

    By suckers, I mean people like Jonathan Mason. I could have written back to explain how the damn Socialist policies he pushes - in conservative NE Florida, no less! - are the causes for the problems he discusses, with more Socialist solutions proposed to fix those, of course.

    Jonathan, stay in Ecuador, please. You can then feel comfortable as a double-ex-pat, criticizing everything wrong here that you never did a damn thing to help do something about, from afar. You can be the next Fred Reed. Enjoy the fresh orange juice.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Enjoy the fresh orange juice.

    Your remind me of an anecdote about orange juice.

    I was driving home to south Florida overnight some years ago, down I-75, and decided to stop for breakfast at a restaurant near Bradenton.

    This would have been February, right in the middle of the orange picking season, and right in the middle of orange growing territory, at a time when people were selling large bags of fresh-picked oranges at the roadside for $3.

    So I ordered an orange juice with my breakfast, and it was delivered in a labeled carton with small print saying that it was produce of Brazil.Sad, because cold fresh orange juice from early in the picking season is one of the world’s great delights.

    I guess it was cheaper to ship it all the way from Brazil than to serve the signature local product that was in season!

    But funnily enough, I bought some oranges in the market in Ecuador recently, and noticed that they were tagged with little stickers as produce of Florida, even though Ecuador has borders with Brazil.

    Ecuador also grows its own oranges and many other fruits, but the most popular juice drinks are Andean blackberry (mora), passion fruit (maricuya), and guayanaba.

  203. @Ben tillman
    @njguy73

    What did Carlton say? Is it really possible that my opinion of him isn’t high ENOUGH?

    Replies: @njguy73

    See “Media charges of bigotry and anti-Semitism.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Carlton#Legacy

    • Thanks: ben tillman
  204. @JohnnyWalker123
    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.

    Pay up Oligarchs!

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne, @Polistra, @Muggles, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason

    The trouble with this 50% tax on billionaires is that in almost all cases their theoretical wealth is in holdings of stock of companies that they have founded rather than in cash. If they were forced to sell half their stock, then they would in many case lose control of their own companies. Also, the forced sale of stock could lead to a massive fall in the value of the stock, and hence of the companies.

    Whether this would be a good thing or a bad thing, I will leave to others to decide.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Ever heard of property taxes? . Based on whatever the local county assessor thinks the real property is worth. Unless the property is rented, the property tax must be paid from owners other sources of income.

    It’s the only tax I know of that isn’t based on ability to pay. For instance, income tax based on income. Capital gains tax based on capital gains. Sales tax based on percentage of cost of item. Can’t avoid sales tax but at least tax payer has done control buy buying cheaper or more expensive item.

    But property tax is just a percentage of an arbitrary value. And it almost never go down except if it’s owner belongs to a powerful lobby.

    Most common in America; buy a house for 300K. Owner knows his salary can pay mortgage . utilities regular and the dreaded major maintenance, like new roof new furnace.

    For whatever reason, usually inflation local assessor decides the house is worth 900K 5 years later. But salary income is the same. Therefore property owner must pay thousands more, maybe $12K a year property taxes instead of 4K a year property taxes in the exact same building. But there’s no rise in income to pay the additional tax.

    So either sell and move or the county takes the property. Econ 101 teaches isn’t it wonderful you made 600K from the sale. Ignoring the fact that profits from the sale are taxable. And you can’t get a mortgage for a comparable house because your income is no higher than when you bought the house for 300K. I know I know, capital gains is less than straight income or sales and accountants can do their magic.

    But property tax is unfair because it’s not based on ability to pay but on an arbitrary amount by the greedy assessor

    Rental real estate is the same thing. Factory moves to China workers can’t pay rent.Tenants can’t pay, store offices warehouse etc vacant, property taxes are the same thing. Although that situation is alleviated by complicated tax deductions on income from all sources. But not in income from the property.

    Econ 101 doesn’t recognize the following fact. Much rental property is useful only as a tax loss to deduct from income from another source.

    I can’t explain it very well. Husband and accountants do the magic. In one sentence, it’s a battle between the owners and the assessors and creates work for accountants and tax lawyers.

    Retail property, in every city in the country the riots and covid closed the stores bars clubs offices spaces for dance lessons and gyms and restaurants, every possible business. .
    Tenants are liable for the rent but have no income to pay it. Owners are liable for mortgage taxes etc but don’t have rental income to pay them. The insurance companies don’t have a magic money tree to pay off claims.

    And in America, the property tax situation is enormously complicated by the destruction blacks do everywhere they go. Higher cost to the local government because they can’t take care of themselves.

    Moving from the black destroyed city to the suburbs is a gamble. Because the blacks follow.
    It’s as if Whites farmed a crop for a few years. Blacks moved in, drove the Whites away and picked the crop. But blacks never planted another crop. So like a herd of deer they have to keep moving.

    It’s not as simple as Econ 101 or socialism makes it sound. Hard for me to explain.

  205. @El Dato
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Now do "racist inter-group power differentials" which sounds like someone from the affirmative action humanities department had accidentally stumbled on a book of mechanical engineering.


    "microaggression is a form of oppression that reinforces existing power differentials between groups, whether or not this was the conscious intention of the offender".
     
    as Miss Yewande, a negro lady who otherwise culturally misappropriates smooth long hair and Prada bags, says as she is otherwise unhappy about racist name mispronounciation which are subject to the devastating homeopathic effects of microaggressions: The more minuscule they are the more devastating they become. Remember that when you say "black coffee" you are actually performing the Second Holocaust.

    Replies: @photondancer

    I wish someone would have the guts to challenge the Yewandes of this world with a list of some of the longer Indian, Thai or Inuit names out there, and get aggressive with her about her racism when she pronounces every one of them wrong (as she undoubtedly will).

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @photondancer

    Throw in some Polish ones, too.

    Replies: @photondancer

  206. @Rob McX

    Equity” has become the dog-whistle term used to alert the Woke that you intend to deliver to them the equality of outcome they desire rather than the equality of opportunity they deserve.
     
    As Theodore Dalrymple has pointed out, it's impossible for any government to even ensure equality of opportunity, given the innumerable random variables that affect each and every one of us from the day we're born. Guaranteeing everyone exactly the same chance in life would require a hitherto unprecedented level of government interference in every corner of people's private lives from birth onwards.

    Replies: @Polistra, @AnotherDad, @Uncle Dan

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences. And even if these were taken into consideration, they would still diverge because of luck. You can try it with dice if you don’t believe me.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Uncle Dan

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences.

    https://occupationoforegon.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/thats-racist.gif

    , @ziggurat
    @Uncle Dan

    In the long run, I'm not sure even luck makes any difference.

    Take for example, the Georgia Land Lotteries in the early 1800s. The winners got free land, but generations later, their posterity were no more wealthy than those who did not win.

    At least, this is what I recall Russ Roberts explaining in his podcast EconTalk a few years ago.

  207. @anon
    Speaking of property.

    "Many white immigrants arrived in colonial America as indentured servants, usually as young men and women from Britain or Germany, under the age of 21. Typically, the father of a teenager would sign the legal papers, and work out an arrangement with a ship captain, who would not charge the father any money.[20] The captain would transport the indentured servants to the American colonies, and sell their legal papers to someone who needed workers. At the end of the indenture, the young person was given a new suit of clothes and was free to leave. Many immediately set out to begin their own farms, while others used their newly acquired skills to pursue a trade.[21][22][23] A few became sufficiently prosperous that they were eventually able to acquire indentured servants of their own.[24]

    Given the high death rate, many servants did not live to the end of their terms.[19] In the 18th and early 19th century, numerous Europeans, mostly from outside the British Isles, traveled to the colonies as redemptioners, a particularly harsh form of indenture.[25]

    Indentured servants were a separate category from bound apprentices. The latter were American-born children, usually orphans or from an impoverished family who could not care for them. They were under the control of courts and were bound out to work as an apprentice until a certain age. Two famous bound apprentices were Benjamin Franklin who illegally fled his apprenticeship to his brother, and Andrew Johnson, who later became President of the United States.[26]

    George Washington used indentured servants;[27] in April 1775, he offered a reward for the return of two runaway white servants."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude_in_British_America

    Replies: @Jack D

    Basically indentured servants were slaves for a term of years, while actual slaves had life sentences (and the status was hereditary too). Otherwise there was not much difference. Note that slaves could also purchase their own freedom and once they were free they could also own land, pursue a trade, etc.

    Slavery in the 17th and 18th century in the original Southern colonies was relatively gentle and the slaves might have come in for a soft landing and been gradually liberated or sent back to Africa. A lot of the slaves were taught skills such as carpentry, iron work, cooking, etc. and once they were freed they could have supported themselves. In the Low Country of S. Carolina, the slaves were more familiar with how to grow rice than white people, because they came from rice growing regions. But sugar cane and especially cotton changed the economics of slavery – there was a cotton boom and cotton was hugely profitable and required a lot of slave labor. And there was no need to teach these slaves a skilled trade. You could learn how to pick cotton in 5 minutes.

  208. Indentured servitude went out of fashion with the introduction of slavery. You see most people didn’t own slaves, nor did they want them.

  209. @Uncle Dan
    @Rob McX

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences. And even if these were taken into consideration, they would still diverge because of luck. You can try it with dice if you don’t believe me.

    Replies: @anon, @ziggurat

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences.

  210. @Jonathan Mason
    @photondancer

    Well those might not be the best examples, but take for example in the nearby city of La Libertad there is an indoor market where there must be at least 20 stores selling cell phones and related paraphernalia.

    And within a range of 200 or 300 yards, there must be at least 20 shoe stores.

    All of these are basically one person businesses, or family businesses. They cannot be terribly profitable, but the cost of entry must be extremely low.

    It would be nice to have a United States where any unemployed person would immediately be asking themselves what business can I open, and what can I sell?

    But I believe one of the main barriers to that in the United States is that the cost of entry into any kind of business is very high and that the cost of living and rent and mortgage payments are very high, so that many one person businesses would be insufficiently profitable to keep a family afloat.

    But since a great deal of rental housing is owned by wealthy corporations, and real estate developers make huge profits, it seems only reasonable that the wealthy and those who make high wages should contribute more to the common good

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Intelligent Dasein, @Alden

    Interesting idea that SS got us into Vietnam and Korea. I don’t understand. SS law passed 1935.

  211. @Anon
    OT: In India, Modi just yanked the subsidy for small farmers. India has 126 million small farmers. A country will a small population and plenty of job openings could get away with this, but not India. No country with a big population at the subsistence level dares go full capitalist with the food supply, because if the entire small-farming sector goes belly-up, widespread starvation can result before the situation can stabilize itself again.

    If those farmers are forced off their land, there's going to be 126 million head-of-household farming Indians and their families (with wife and approximately 2 kids a piece, that's HALF A BILLION) people trying to leave their country to keep from starving to death. Yes, they'll head to the US and any other place that will take them.

    Modi's making a serious attempt to annihilate all the poor people in India--the hard, nasty, meaner-than-Hitler way.

    Between Bonehead Biden and Moron Modi's crisis, our largest minority population may soon be Indian instead of Hispanic. I'm willing to bet 5 bucks that Modi deliberately waited to do this until Biden had won office and had turned US policy pro-immigration again. Modi's trying to make the US his dumpster for his own country's problems.

    Even worse, Biden's an idiot that Modi can play like pro. It'll collapse our social welfare system if we let tens of millions of poverty stricken Indians flood in and make our unemployment problems unsolvable. Europe's going to have another immigration crisis, too.

    Another reason why Modi did this: Kamala Harris is INDIAN. She won't say no to large scale Indian immigration to this country.

    Replies: @Polistra, @El Dato, @AnotherDad

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk. So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    There’s a reason the US future is “Brazil” and not “India” or much worse “Nigeria”.

    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherDad

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk.

    They do that. You may recall the caravans of 2019? There were hundreds of Africans mixed in all along the southern border. Every day apprehensions.

    https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-border-patrol-arrests-153-africans-texas-border

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-latest-group-of-116-africans-arrested-at-border

    So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    Yeah, no.

    There’s a reason the US future is “Brazil” and not “India” or much worse “Nigeria”.

    Or the future is BrazIndiaGeria. At that point Mexico may fund its own wall...

    Oh, yeah, President Harris has lifted limits on H1b's.

    , @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Asians sign loan contracts for 40-60K to be smuggled to America in shipping containers to work in asian immigrant slavery labor businesses until the loan is paid. They might not have the cash for a $500 plane ticket and tourist visa but are happy to mortgage themselves to a smuggler labor contract. And stuffed in a shipping container with a chemical toilet and dozens of others.

    Neither the Hispanics nor Asians just arrive and look for a job.. The jobs are already arranged. Not all the factories moved to China. There are plenty of illegal hidden factories in every Asian neighborhood in America.

    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid. The smugglers and business owners are often the same organization or family clan. In some neighborhoods you can hear the sound of dozens of sewing machines in single family houses because they are illegal asian garment factories full of illegal alien Asians working off the 50K smuggler fee.

    And nothing is done because it would be racist.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @photondancer

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Not so fast.

    Guarantee you it will come to pass.

    Just look at Europe, for example. An awfully long way from Congo or Bangladesh, but exponentially increasing numbers from those parts continue to play the 'Mediterranean Boat Trick' and con their way in.

  212. @Mr. Anon
    @Alden


    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline.
     

    Do you have citations on this? I'm not saying you're wrong, but a lot of people repeat stuff they see on the internet assuming it's true when't it isn't. Especially about purported alterior economic motives behind certain actions.

    Biden shut down Phase IV of Keystone, which would have served the shale-oil fields in Montana. Phases I-III which bring oil from Canadian fields down to the Gulf coast have already been built and are in operation.

    Shutting down Phase IV won't stop the oil from being transported from either field, it will just make it more expensive. It's possible that Biden shut down Phase IV not because it benefitted Warren Buffet (although it's possible that did partially motivate him), but rather because he just doesn't care. It's not like he's gassing up his trans-am every weekend. The military he commands (or at least pretends to) will get all the oil it needs. The political class is almost completely insulated from the direct consequences of their actions. One of the GloboCap neo-lib programs is to make energy more expensive.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Alden

    Buffett’s railroad interests go back years.

    https://www.wyattresearch.com/article/top-railroad-stocks/

  213. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Technite78

    I agree we should adjust for inflation. But a billionaire has his wealth in liquid assets and assets that he is constantly having assessed and borrowing against. For everything else you can adjust his gains rate UP based on years held when they do sell to make it equivalent to having paid a yearly tax and periodically force an estate assessment similar to what would happen when he dies. It's 100% feasible.

    For many assets, determining the cost basis or the market value is quite problematic, subjective, and manipulatable.

    That's not in any way specific to taxing unrealized gains.

    Replies: @Technite78

    Making a very large change to the ways in which taxes are assessed (i.e. making unrealized gains taxable by attempting to determine the current value of all assets) will change behavior. There will be a large incentive to obfuscate the value of assets and/or hold illiquid assets until they need to be sold. Billionaires have plenty of ways to generate cash without having to sell assets.

    And what about the rest of us? Will we have to pay taxes on the appreciation of our homes every year? The appreciation of our 401K accounts? Pension plans? Or will all that be exempt?

    I’m no billionaire, but I’ve been putting money into stocks/bonds/real estate during my entire working career… if I would have had to pay taxes at the capital gains rate on unrealized gains every year I’d have a fraction of my current nest egg.

  214. anon[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Anon

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk. So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    There's a reason the US future is "Brazil" and not "India" or much worse "Nigeria".

    Replies: @anon, @Alden, @Anonymous

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk.

    They do that. You may recall the caravans of 2019? There were hundreds of Africans mixed in all along the southern border. Every day apprehensions.

    https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-border-patrol-arrests-153-africans-texas-border

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-latest-group-of-116-africans-arrested-at-border

    So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    Yeah, no.

    There’s a reason the US future is “Brazil” and not “India” or much worse “Nigeria”.

    Or the future is BrazIndiaGeria. At that point Mexico may fund its own wall…

    Oh, yeah, President Harris has lifted limits on H1b’s.

  215. @Jonathan Mason
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The trouble with this 50% tax on billionaires is that in almost all cases their theoretical wealth is in holdings of stock of companies that they have founded rather than in cash. If they were forced to sell half their stock, then they would in many case lose control of their own companies. Also, the forced sale of stock could lead to a massive fall in the value of the stock, and hence of the companies.

    Whether this would be a good thing or a bad thing, I will leave to others to decide.

    Replies: @Alden

    Ever heard of property taxes? . Based on whatever the local county assessor thinks the real property is worth. Unless the property is rented, the property tax must be paid from owners other sources of income.

    It’s the only tax I know of that isn’t based on ability to pay. For instance, income tax based on income. Capital gains tax based on capital gains. Sales tax based on percentage of cost of item. Can’t avoid sales tax but at least tax payer has done control buy buying cheaper or more expensive item.

    But property tax is just a percentage of an arbitrary value. And it almost never go down except if it’s owner belongs to a powerful lobby.

    Most common in America; buy a house for 300K. Owner knows his salary can pay mortgage . utilities regular and the dreaded major maintenance, like new roof new furnace.

    For whatever reason, usually inflation local assessor decides the house is worth 900K 5 years later. But salary income is the same. Therefore property owner must pay thousands more, maybe $12K a year property taxes instead of 4K a year property taxes in the exact same building. But there’s no rise in income to pay the additional tax.

    So either sell and move or the county takes the property. Econ 101 teaches isn’t it wonderful you made 600K from the sale. Ignoring the fact that profits from the sale are taxable. And you can’t get a mortgage for a comparable house because your income is no higher than when you bought the house for 300K. I know I know, capital gains is less than straight income or sales and accountants can do their magic.

    But property tax is unfair because it’s not based on ability to pay but on an arbitrary amount by the greedy assessor

    Rental real estate is the same thing. Factory moves to China workers can’t pay rent.Tenants can’t pay, store offices warehouse etc vacant, property taxes are the same thing. Although that situation is alleviated by complicated tax deductions on income from all sources. But not in income from the property.

    Econ 101 doesn’t recognize the following fact. Much rental property is useful only as a tax loss to deduct from income from another source.

    I can’t explain it very well. Husband and accountants do the magic. In one sentence, it’s a battle between the owners and the assessors and creates work for accountants and tax lawyers.

    Retail property, in every city in the country the riots and covid closed the stores bars clubs offices spaces for dance lessons and gyms and restaurants, every possible business. .
    Tenants are liable for the rent but have no income to pay it. Owners are liable for mortgage taxes etc but don’t have rental income to pay them. The insurance companies don’t have a magic money tree to pay off claims.

    And in America, the property tax situation is enormously complicated by the destruction blacks do everywhere they go. Higher cost to the local government because they can’t take care of themselves.

    Moving from the black destroyed city to the suburbs is a gamble. Because the blacks follow.
    It’s as if Whites farmed a crop for a few years. Blacks moved in, drove the Whites away and picked the crop. But blacks never planted another crop. So like a herd of deer they have to keep moving.

    It’s not as simple as Econ 101 or socialism makes it sound. Hard for me to explain.

  216. @newrouter
    What happens when the American Negroes are told that they have "zero equity" concerning the USA?

    Replies: @Aardvark

    Not “zero equity”, it’s “I ain’t got no ekity”.
    Example: If you want us to hep steal the next election we need mo’ ekity.

  217. @Anon7
    @ScarletNumber

    Scarlet! You're back.

    Actually, I only told the quick version of this story because it's one of the incidents that really brought me over from liberalism on this very site some years ago, and I've commented on it before.

    Here, see if you believe a longer version. My son was in the first few months of sixth grade, and I got an interim grade report saying he was getting a "C" in math. Not sure of what to do, I arranged for an appointment with his teacher.

    Oh, yes, she said. I divide grading into tests, homework and in class assignments. And your son is getting a "C" in all three, so that's a "C".

    Tell me about the tests, I said. She said that the tests consisted of 30-35 questions. I asked how many answers he got right out of the total possible. She said that my son always got all the answers right.

    What?

    He has to show his work, she insisted. Do you think that a kid who just writes down correct answers is a "C" student? I knew that he had terrible handwriting (and still does) and it's hard for him. (*More busy work writing.)

    Okay, how about homework. Same story, he gets all the answers, but doesn't show his work. Also, and more importantly, he doesn't keep a neat notebook, with a table of contents, with all his homework, in order (*clerical speed and accuracy).

    And in class? Well, in class assignments are *very social in nature. Lots of *talking about how to do the problem. Lots of *extra writing. Lots of narrative driven *story problems. Once your son knows how to do a kind of problem, he loses interest, said the teacher.

    So, I went home and had a talk with my son. He decided to do extra math at a local tutoring place. He placed out of several years of junior high math. He finished BC calculus as a high school junior, and took Honors Math Analysis at the University in our university town as a high school senior. About 20 kids per year take it, because it involves about fifty hours of homework per week. One of those courses where, in the first semester, they don't give you any numbers - you have to build the real numbers before you get to play with them. All proofs. As a college freshman, he took graduate level math and tutored senior engineering students on the tough parts.

    So what do you think, Scarlet? Good story telling, or a horror story about how talented boys are treated by female Leftist teacher's union employees? I know, I know, you're just one of the trolls who like to tweak Steve's earnest commenters, but perhaps some of Steve's current readers enjoyed it.

    Replies: @photondancer, @nebulafox, @ScarletNumber

    I enjoyed it. I was not as gifted at math as your son but I was good at it, and having to write down the working every time irked me. It’s a burden and wastes time. I can understand why it would be demanded in exams but for homework, if the pupil always has the right answers they either understand what they’re doing or they’re cheating. A competent teacher can tell the difference.

    The story approach to math is a crock. Extracting the math problem from the verbiage is a skill in its own right and completely separate to the mathematical working. Same with social discussions. Sounds like the teacher was a huggybear who, like all huggybears, feared and loathed those who are less social (less dependent, in practice).

  218. @Jonathan Mason
    Equity or equality will only exist if we have laws that give everybody a chance.

    In the United States you see beggars standing (or sitting) at traffic lights holding up signs saying "unemployed veteran homeless God Bless" or approaching people at gas stations asking for cash or gasoline.

    In Ecuador, where I am in present time, even the unemployed and homeless want to be entrepreneurs.

    Jugglers, hoola-hoopers, and flag-dancers perform at traffic lights.

    I know a woman who is unemployed pharmacy manager, who is getting by by selling bottled water in the street to thirsty motorists or pedestrians.

    Handicapped people sell various products to passengers on buses.

    At New Year in Manta I was waiting to cross the road with a bottle of juice in my hand, and a woman stopped her car rolled down the window, and offered me $0.50 for the juice.

    In the market places there are people standing around selling every product imaginable. A guy with a large bucket of iced orange juice does a good trade at 50 cents a cup, while on the other side of his intersection a competitoris selling coconut juice.

    At the bus station in Guayaquil there are over 100 departure gates, and each one has its own snack vending hut eking out a living.

    Meanwhile in the US all kinds of rules and regulations make it almost impossible for people to support themselves and make a living doing even the most basic things.

    Just setting up a place to sell hamburgers could require over a million dollars by the time you factor in the need to provide handicap parking spaces for each hamburger stand, and workers comp for any employees, men's and women's bathrooms, a drive-in window, health insurance for employees,and so on.

    So it is hardly a coincidence that most hamburger places, the most humble of businesses, are run by multinational corporations.

    I once read that Mark Zuckerberg's family had considered helping him buy into a McDonald's franchise when he finished college, but agreed to support him in the Facebook venture as an alternative.

    Why would a student at Harvard even consider running a corporate hamburger shop selling overpriced lousy food? Is that the apex of the American dream?

    If the sale of hamburgers is so profitable, wouldn't you think everybody would be doing it and competing to build a better burger?

    Replies: @photondancer, @Pericles, @Anon, @Alden

    Handicapped parking is just a sign on a couple of the regular parking spaces. You’re right that a Macdonald’s and it’s nasty food or a 7-11 and it’s nasty customers and lottery tickets makes a high income.
    But it’s just stupid to ignore economic reality that 7-11 owners make more money selling lottery tickets and over priced malt liquor to bums than highly allegedly educated people do in whatever they do from useful like engineers to affirmative action HR make work fake jobs.

  219. @Old and Grumpy
    @SFG

    Hasn't worked with Congress yet. The fossils keep getting elected. Also most of the old whites are Democrats. For all its faults GOP trends younger if that is what matters to you.

    Replies: @SFG

    Nah, my point is that it would be a ‘PC’ way for businesses to get rid of lots of old and expensive employees.

    Congress, as always, doesn’t live by the same rules it imposes on the rest of us.

  220. @El Dato
    Finally a band-aid against racist abuse and both micro and meso aggressions

    Trippy drugs and magic ’shrooms can cure people mentally scarred by racist abuse, new research suggests

    The study found that using psychedelic drugs offered relief from trauma caused by racial discrimination in a subject group that included black people, Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Indigenous Canadians, and other minorities. All had encountered some form of unfair treatment by neighbors, teachers, and employers; false accusations of wrongdoing; and physical violence.
     
    Whitey, however, will have to cope with having a gun shoved into his face, raped, beaten, abused or being shot in a "panhandling gone wrong".

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Wow — that article was painful to read. The study was probably a piece of crap, but that article was astonishingly stupid. Psilocybin in LSD and MDMA?

  221. @Anon7
    @ScarletNumber

    Scarlet! You're back.

    Actually, I only told the quick version of this story because it's one of the incidents that really brought me over from liberalism on this very site some years ago, and I've commented on it before.

    Here, see if you believe a longer version. My son was in the first few months of sixth grade, and I got an interim grade report saying he was getting a "C" in math. Not sure of what to do, I arranged for an appointment with his teacher.

    Oh, yes, she said. I divide grading into tests, homework and in class assignments. And your son is getting a "C" in all three, so that's a "C".

    Tell me about the tests, I said. She said that the tests consisted of 30-35 questions. I asked how many answers he got right out of the total possible. She said that my son always got all the answers right.

    What?

    He has to show his work, she insisted. Do you think that a kid who just writes down correct answers is a "C" student? I knew that he had terrible handwriting (and still does) and it's hard for him. (*More busy work writing.)

    Okay, how about homework. Same story, he gets all the answers, but doesn't show his work. Also, and more importantly, he doesn't keep a neat notebook, with a table of contents, with all his homework, in order (*clerical speed and accuracy).

    And in class? Well, in class assignments are *very social in nature. Lots of *talking about how to do the problem. Lots of *extra writing. Lots of narrative driven *story problems. Once your son knows how to do a kind of problem, he loses interest, said the teacher.

    So, I went home and had a talk with my son. He decided to do extra math at a local tutoring place. He placed out of several years of junior high math. He finished BC calculus as a high school junior, and took Honors Math Analysis at the University in our university town as a high school senior. About 20 kids per year take it, because it involves about fifty hours of homework per week. One of those courses where, in the first semester, they don't give you any numbers - you have to build the real numbers before you get to play with them. All proofs. As a college freshman, he took graduate level math and tutored senior engineering students on the tough parts.

    So what do you think, Scarlet? Good story telling, or a horror story about how talented boys are treated by female Leftist teacher's union employees? I know, I know, you're just one of the trolls who like to tweak Steve's earnest commenters, but perhaps some of Steve's current readers enjoyed it.

    Replies: @photondancer, @nebulafox, @ScarletNumber

    The *exact* same thing happened to me at that age, except for the happy ending of accelerating my mathematics education, culminating in high school real analysis. Man, I wish you were around to give advice to my parents (not knocking them, they tried their best with their background and circumstances) when I was a kid!

    Ah, well: learning the math late is better than never learning it at all.

  222. @AnotherDad
    @Anon

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk. So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    There's a reason the US future is "Brazil" and not "India" or much worse "Nigeria".

    Replies: @anon, @Alden, @Anonymous

    Asians sign loan contracts for 40-60K to be smuggled to America in shipping containers to work in asian immigrant slavery labor businesses until the loan is paid. They might not have the cash for a $500 plane ticket and tourist visa but are happy to mortgage themselves to a smuggler labor contract. And stuffed in a shipping container with a chemical toilet and dozens of others.

    Neither the Hispanics nor Asians just arrive and look for a job.. The jobs are already arranged. Not all the factories moved to China. There are plenty of illegal hidden factories in every Asian neighborhood in America.

    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid. The smugglers and business owners are often the same organization or family clan. In some neighborhoods you can hear the sound of dozens of sewing machines in single family houses because they are illegal asian garment factories full of illegal alien Asians working off the 50K smuggler fee.

    And nothing is done because it would be racist.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alden

    Thank you for the slew of excellent comments on practical economic matters, Alden. Regarding:


    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid.
     
    I've been told about this by someone with a friend who owns a big one of these buffet restaurants (big secret, chicken is cheap!) No shipping containers were involved, so I think it was more like corruption of immigration officials at the big international airport, where the worker came from on big charter buses to places all over our portion of the country. I also got part of the scoop independently from someone who can speak Chinese to these waitresses.

    Peak Stupidity reported on this 3 years back in "The China to King Buffet pipeline". (No, that's not the place's real name.)

    Replies: @Alden

    , @photondancer
    @Alden

    I don't think the smuggling plays much role here in Oz, but the cheap buffets do like to hire international students, not declare them and pay them under-award wages in cash (or just not pay them at all). It's why I refuse to eat at any restaurant that is cash-only. Maybe it's because they don't like paying merchant fees, but I am not going to take the risk that it's because they don't like obeying the law.

    I remember reading articles about piece workers in the garment industry being paid a pittance 20 years ago but I don't know if it's still a problem. Wouldn't surprise me if it's now so cheap to import tat from China that there are no longer local piece workers.

    Replies: @Alden

  223. @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, Mexico has government health care systems. So why do Mexicans flock here for treatment, the ones who can? Even Canadians come here for rationed care not provided timely or at all there supposedly free.

    In every shithole country you usually find government "health systems." Nearly all very lethal or non helpful. The developed nations can sometimes afford that, but it also relies on rationing and second rate doctors and facilities. Things are heavily taxed to pay for care.

    There are government plans for the very poor or those who choose not to work or pay for their own care. For others, the current system works pretty well.

    Aside from deliberately killing people, what are the services provided by government that are superior to private market solutions?

    Replies: @anonsasmaug, @James O'Meara, @Achmed E. Newman

    I give you mucho kudos for trying, Mr. Muggles. You’re just not gonna get anywhere trying to talk economic sense to Jonathan Mason. Been there, done that, would have made better use of my time panning for gold in our sewer main…

  224. @photondancer
    @El Dato

    I wish someone would have the guts to challenge the Yewandes of this world with a list of some of the longer Indian, Thai or Inuit names out there, and get aggressive with her about her racism when she pronounces every one of them wrong (as she undoubtedly will).

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Throw in some Polish ones, too.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    True. Heck, I challenge any black person to pronounce my (Scandinavian) name correctly. But according to the woke rules it's not a microaggression to get white names wrong.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  225. @The Alarmist
    Now that I see the three Amigos cartoon again, it dawns on my that the oldest, who you assume is the father, could give the youngest a second box and equality would work out just fine.

    Kamala’s cartoon depicts a black mountain climber as being too stupid to follow the trail to the cliff chosen by his smarter white partner. Thus, the discriminated-against black man can’t reach the magic rope that somehow pulls the privileged white mountaineer up as if he’s riding a ski-resort towrope.
     
    I’ve summited Mt. Blanc a few times, and I don’t recall seeing any bruthas up there, but that’s not surprising given the name. I did Kilimanjaro once, and it was still mostly white affair, but with a few paid locals helping out.

    I know of one “African American” who summited Everest, but they usually play down that she is half-Japanese. Oddly enough, the only black climbers I have heard about were all women.

    Maybe someone should tell Kamala climbing is still not a black thing, probably because it’s cold up there and seems rather pointless when self-actualisation is not your thing and you have to pay rather than be paid.

    I’m happy to have a brother or sister join me on my next ascent, but I’m sure as hell not going to carry their packs.(Equity or Equality in mountain climbing ... Packs for Blacks?).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Alarmist, f it comes to any technical climbing, will you be OK with a C.O.C. (Climber Of Color) that you don’t know very well belaying you? Just asking for a friend … who may want your gear if, well, you know …

    Did you have oxygen up on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I’d probably stick to a non-technical route ;)

    We had emergency oxygen, but didn’t need it.

  226. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    It wasn't approved, it simply wasn't disapproved. If you want your comments to go through, try being less of a Chicken Little. It's embarrassing.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    What is “chicken little” about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    What is “chicken little” about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?
     
    I do, too. Which of these cases, overturning statutes enacted by white communities to protect white communities, have you objected to?


    Madalyn Murray O'Hair's last case

    Planned Parenthood Action Fund: Griswold v. Connecticut


    https://image.slidesharecdn.com/eppersonv-arkansas-090421222452-phpapp02/95/epperson-v-arkansas-2-728.jpg?cb=1240352713

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  227. @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Asians sign loan contracts for 40-60K to be smuggled to America in shipping containers to work in asian immigrant slavery labor businesses until the loan is paid. They might not have the cash for a $500 plane ticket and tourist visa but are happy to mortgage themselves to a smuggler labor contract. And stuffed in a shipping container with a chemical toilet and dozens of others.

    Neither the Hispanics nor Asians just arrive and look for a job.. The jobs are already arranged. Not all the factories moved to China. There are plenty of illegal hidden factories in every Asian neighborhood in America.

    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid. The smugglers and business owners are often the same organization or family clan. In some neighborhoods you can hear the sound of dozens of sewing machines in single family houses because they are illegal asian garment factories full of illegal alien Asians working off the 50K smuggler fee.

    And nothing is done because it would be racist.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @photondancer

    Thank you for the slew of excellent comments on practical economic matters, Alden. Regarding:

    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid.

    I’ve been told about this by someone with a friend who owns a big one of these buffet restaurants (big secret, chicken is cheap!) No shipping containers were involved, so I think it was more like corruption of immigration officials at the big international airport, where the worker came from on big charter buses to places all over our portion of the country. I also got part of the scoop independently from someone who can speak Chinese to these waitresses.

    Peak Stupidity reported on this 3 years back in “The China to King Buffet pipeline”. (No, that’s not the place’s real name.)

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s the thing. It’s not like the European immigrants who arrived and looked for a job. I know many had friends and relatives who helped.

    But Mexican central American and Asians are recruited and met by buses that deliver them to employers all over the country. On the west and east coasts they often are delivered right to the employer.

    Maybe later I’ll post a comment about the house we looked at when we decided to move back to the city. Among other things, I counted 73 beds in a 2 story 10 room house if you count the kitchen and maid’s room with a garage. Just 3 years after the Rockefeller’s stooges Nixon and Kissinger went to China.

  228. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @photondancer

    Throw in some Polish ones, too.

    Replies: @photondancer

    True. Heck, I challenge any black person to pronounce my (Scandinavian) name correctly. But according to the woke rules it’s not a microaggression to get white names wrong.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @photondancer

    Actually, Yewande has more automatic wokemon points than any Indian, Thai, or Inuit, so she can pronounce their names any damn way she pleases anyway.

  229. @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Asians sign loan contracts for 40-60K to be smuggled to America in shipping containers to work in asian immigrant slavery labor businesses until the loan is paid. They might not have the cash for a $500 plane ticket and tourist visa but are happy to mortgage themselves to a smuggler labor contract. And stuffed in a shipping container with a chemical toilet and dozens of others.

    Neither the Hispanics nor Asians just arrive and look for a job.. The jobs are already arranged. Not all the factories moved to China. There are plenty of illegal hidden factories in every Asian neighborhood in America.

    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid. The smugglers and business owners are often the same organization or family clan. In some neighborhoods you can hear the sound of dozens of sewing machines in single family houses because they are illegal asian garment factories full of illegal alien Asians working off the 50K smuggler fee.

    And nothing is done because it would be racist.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @photondancer

    I don’t think the smuggling plays much role here in Oz, but the cheap buffets do like to hire international students, not declare them and pay them under-award wages in cash (or just not pay them at all). It’s why I refuse to eat at any restaurant that is cash-only. Maybe it’s because they don’t like paying merchant fees, but I am not going to take the risk that it’s because they don’t like obeying the law.

    I remember reading articles about piece workers in the garment industry being paid a pittance 20 years ago but I don’t know if it’s still a problem. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s now so cheap to import tat from China that there are no longer local piece workers.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @photondancer

    In America it’s not foreign students who work and live in the cheap buffets. It’s indentured servant illegals smuggled in often in shipping containers. All over California there are asian sewing factories wherever they can be set up. Homes office space garages. All a garment factory needs is sewing machines, chairs cutting table iron and iron board. 15 sewing machines cutting table ironing board fit in an average garage.

    San Francisco all over the Richmond Sunset Chinese neighborhoods. It’s townhouses on top of a garage. House wall right up on the sidewalk. Sometimes the garages are open. Walking by one can see the Chinese at the sewing machines.

    Or the illegal chicken slaughter house. Crates of live chickens in the garage. Seriously skinny sickly Chinese men killing the chickens, de feathering de gutting and cutting them up on the floor.

    Both my adult sons live in the city and see this. It’s been going on for decades. The chicken pieces go to the gazillion Chinese restaurants and food markets in the city. It’s totally illegal to have a poultry slaughterhouse processing factory on the floor of a single family house garage.
    And nothing is done.

    In San Francisco the Chinese ships unload the containers full of illegal indentured servants on foggy nights at the old Bethlehem Steel and Hunters Point shipyard wharves abandoned for 40 years. The employers are waiting, with small buses vans and panel trucks to whisk them away.
    Like the indentured servant massage and brothel girls the indentured servants are never seen in public ever. The windows are covered. They roll out the blankets and sleep where they work.

    And nothing is done. Because it would be racist to enforce basic health and safety laws on non Whites.

    S California, it’s all over the east of Los Angeles San Gabriel suburbs. The whole operation is hidden. Only give away is when they’re cooking that smelly rotten fish guts & garlic sauce. Or when you’re in a food market and see someone with 4 20 pound bags of rice in the cart. They’ve got a factory full of slaves to feed.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  230. @Mr. Anon
    @Alden


    Why Biden closed down the Keystone pipeline.

    Oil will now be transported by the Burlington railroad. Guess who owns most of the stock in the railroad? Warren Buffet. Follow the money who benefits. He must have been the founder organizer of all those idiot White save the earth scum battling the Tribal police and state troopers to stop the pipeline.
     

    Do you have citations on this? I'm not saying you're wrong, but a lot of people repeat stuff they see on the internet assuming it's true when't it isn't. Especially about purported alterior economic motives behind certain actions.

    Biden shut down Phase IV of Keystone, which would have served the shale-oil fields in Montana. Phases I-III which bring oil from Canadian fields down to the Gulf coast have already been built and are in operation.

    Shutting down Phase IV won't stop the oil from being transported from either field, it will just make it more expensive. It's possible that Biden shut down Phase IV not because it benefitted Warren Buffet (although it's possible that did partially motivate him), but rather because he just doesn't care. It's not like he's gassing up his trans-am every weekend. The military he commands (or at least pretends to) will get all the oil it needs. The political class is almost completely insulated from the direct consequences of their actions. One of the GloboCap neo-lib programs is to make energy more expensive.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Alden

    That’s Bill Ayers Common Core Math. The note book is a portfolio. The neatness and upkeep of the portfolio is judged by the teacher. White boy grade F. Blacks perfect A no matter how messy the blacks portfolio is or if the portfolio is totally empty.

    40 portfolio 20 percent show your work 30 percent * group problem solving 10 percent correct answers.

    * group problem solving is 5 kids the smartest ones do all the work, everybody gets the same grade. With colleges ending the SATs bright kids who got mediocre grades because of race sex discrimination can’t prove they are really top students.

    The teacher had no choice. She has to grade that way. White men really really need to get themselves together and do something about their descent into unemployable untouchable pariah caste. Ranting about abortion birth control tattoos green hair and hypergamy on the internet doesn’t help.

    Where do you guys live anyway? I never see tattoos. And I have 8 teen and early 20s grandchildren, they have lots of friends and I live near a university. And I never see tattoos

  231. @Uncle Dan
    @Rob McX

    Even if everyone were assured an equal starting point, they would immediately diverge because of innate differences. And even if these were taken into consideration, they would still diverge because of luck. You can try it with dice if you don’t believe me.

    Replies: @anon, @ziggurat

    In the long run, I’m not sure even luck makes any difference.

    Take for example, the Georgia Land Lotteries in the early 1800s. The winners got free land, but generations later, their posterity were no more wealthy than those who did not win.

    At least, this is what I recall Russ Roberts explaining in his podcast EconTalk a few years ago.

  232. @photondancer
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    True. Heck, I challenge any black person to pronounce my (Scandinavian) name correctly. But according to the woke rules it's not a microaggression to get white names wrong.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Actually, Yewande has more automatic wokemon points than any Indian, Thai, or Inuit, so she can pronounce their names any damn way she pleases anyway.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  233. About the misogynist White women hating scumbag POS Man of UNZ who likes Of Mice and Men and sneers at a high school girl who doesn’t like a required reading book that advocates murder of women justified by poverty.

    Of Mice and Men in 3 sentences.

    1 Poor employee murders rich employers wife.
    2 Murder justified murderer is poor victim rich.
    3 Murderer never even investigated or charged because the poor are justified in killing the rich or middle class

    I know most of you misogynist women haters aren’t married and can’t even do the deed that results in children, But let’s remake Of Mice and Men. From 1930s prosperous farm to 2020s prosperous middle class married couple.

    Married couple both work 100- 150 K a year depending on area’s cost of living 2 kids own or rent a nice house in a nice suburb.

    Couple buys a new refrigerator. Uses the store’s convenient guy with a truck delivery service. Delivery scheduled Saturday AM. Wife stays home to unload food from old fridge, accept delivery and stock new fridge. Husband and kids leave. Dad drops kid off at soccer scouts friends whatever. He does errands weekly grocery shopping picks up kids heads home.

    SOP division of labor for parents. Which you Men of UNZ don’t know about because of your celibate women hating bitter old bachelor state in life

    Dad and kids get home. New Fridge bear the door. Mom murdered maybe raped in living room. Kids hysterical, dad managed to call police delivery men obvious suspects

    Police inform husband that it’s not a crime for poor oppressed delivery men to murder a rich woman. It’s not illegal for the poor to murder the rich. We can’t even make a report.

    How would you like that; you who sneers at teen girl who doesn’t approve of murder justification in Of Mice and Men

    Steinbeck was a communist. His books advocated communism and bloody revolution ala the murder of the rich woman in Mice and Men. Just like the Jew bolsheviks murdered Russians and the German Baptist’s murdered the bourgeoisie of Munster Germany 1530s.

    You womanless childless Men of UNZ continually rant about the destruction of the family and bourgeoisie valued by feminazies. As well as communist revolution, Steinbeck advocated destruction of the family as part of his communist propaganda. That’s why he sneered and sneered at the married bourgeoisie and glorified all the prostitutes and their drifting unmarried customers.

    In Dubious Battle by Steinbeck. Protagonist is a communist party organizer. He’s in the agricultural valley to organize a Farm Workers Union. The union, will then function as a communist party front. Like Earl Browder’s Longshoremen, Wobblies, CIO Social Workers and other Unions

    East of Eden. Half a great story about lettuce farming, invention of refrigerated railroad cars to transport lettuce to frozen Minnesota and Massachusetts in January.

    Other half is just destruction and sneering at the nuclear family. For no reason mother abandons husband and toddlers. She goes no farther than nearest town a few miles away . Sets up
    a brothel. According to Steinbeck and fellow communists, brothels good marriage bad. Single parent child raising better than 2 parents.

    I’m glad all these communist authors are getting trashed. I only wish something to the very worst, Harper Lee. That witch was responsible for thousands of black rapists never even being charged.

    Hemingway too was a communist propagandist. Although he was more a romantic than a serious communist like Steinbeck. His Spanish civil war book was propaganda for the Russian American Jew takeover of Spain in the 1930s. Later he advocated for Castro until Castro kicked him out. For you Men of UNZ whose main interest is black women’s abortions and birth control, Hemingway’s books also advocated for abortion.

    How’d you like to walk into your barn and find your wife murdered and the employee who did it long gone?

    How’d you like to be a teen girl and forced to read Mice and Men and Mockingbird and forced to write book reports praising them? How’d you like to be a girl’s father or mother afraid to tell her about the propaganda in those books for fear the girl would get an F in the course, a bad college application recommendation and accused of racism?

    Put yourself in the place of the Mice and Men farmer who found his dead wife in the barn you women hating POS.

  234. @photondancer
    @Alden

    I don't think the smuggling plays much role here in Oz, but the cheap buffets do like to hire international students, not declare them and pay them under-award wages in cash (or just not pay them at all). It's why I refuse to eat at any restaurant that is cash-only. Maybe it's because they don't like paying merchant fees, but I am not going to take the risk that it's because they don't like obeying the law.

    I remember reading articles about piece workers in the garment industry being paid a pittance 20 years ago but I don't know if it's still a problem. Wouldn't surprise me if it's now so cheap to import tat from China that there are no longer local piece workers.

    Replies: @Alden

    In America it’s not foreign students who work and live in the cheap buffets. It’s indentured servant illegals smuggled in often in shipping containers. All over California there are asian sewing factories wherever they can be set up. Homes office space garages. All a garment factory needs is sewing machines, chairs cutting table iron and iron board. 15 sewing machines cutting table ironing board fit in an average garage.

    San Francisco all over the Richmond Sunset Chinese neighborhoods. It’s townhouses on top of a garage. House wall right up on the sidewalk. Sometimes the garages are open. Walking by one can see the Chinese at the sewing machines.

    Or the illegal chicken slaughter house. Crates of live chickens in the garage. Seriously skinny sickly Chinese men killing the chickens, de feathering de gutting and cutting them up on the floor.

    Both my adult sons live in the city and see this. It’s been going on for decades. The chicken pieces go to the gazillion Chinese restaurants and food markets in the city. It’s totally illegal to have a poultry slaughterhouse processing factory on the floor of a single family house garage.
    And nothing is done.

    In San Francisco the Chinese ships unload the containers full of illegal indentured servants on foggy nights at the old Bethlehem Steel and Hunters Point shipyard wharves abandoned for 40 years. The employers are waiting, with small buses vans and panel trucks to whisk them away.
    Like the indentured servant massage and brothel girls the indentured servants are never seen in public ever. The windows are covered. They roll out the blankets and sleep where they work.

    And nothing is done. Because it would be racist to enforce basic health and safety laws on non Whites.

    S California, it’s all over the east of Los Angeles San Gabriel suburbs. The whole operation is hidden. Only give away is when they’re cooking that smelly rotten fish guts & garlic sauce. Or when you’re in a food market and see someone with 4 20 pound bags of rice in the cart. They’ve got a factory full of slaves to feed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden


    All over California there are asian sewing factories wherever they can be set up. Homes office space garages. All a garment factory needs is sewing machines, chairs cutting table iron and iron board. 15 sewing machines cutting table ironing board fit in an average garage.

    San Francisco all over the Richmond Sunset Chinese neighborhoods. It’s townhouses on top of a garage. House wall right up on the sidewalk. Sometimes the garages are open. Walking by one can see the Chinese at the sewing machines.
     
    How does the economics of this work? Textiles is an extremely low margin business. You only make money either as a luxury brand that can charge a premium or by producing at scale in large manufacturing operations. How do these small sewing operations in very high rent areas compete with textile imports from China? Wouldn't you make more just renting the space to software engineers or something?

    The economics for the cheap Chinese buffets and restaurants works out because these restaurants can be found in very low rent areas in strip malls, exurbs, black ghettoes, etc. and they produce a non-tradeable service i.e. a restaurant meal that doesn't have to face competition from imports.
  235. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alden

    Thank you for the slew of excellent comments on practical economic matters, Alden. Regarding:


    Are you familiar with those cheap asian buffets? The workers are usually smuggled in Labor contract workers who live on the premises and work till the smuggler loan is paid.
     
    I've been told about this by someone with a friend who owns a big one of these buffet restaurants (big secret, chicken is cheap!) No shipping containers were involved, so I think it was more like corruption of immigration officials at the big international airport, where the worker came from on big charter buses to places all over our portion of the country. I also got part of the scoop independently from someone who can speak Chinese to these waitresses.

    Peak Stupidity reported on this 3 years back in "The China to King Buffet pipeline". (No, that's not the place's real name.)

    Replies: @Alden

    That’s the thing. It’s not like the European immigrants who arrived and looked for a job. I know many had friends and relatives who helped.

    But Mexican central American and Asians are recruited and met by buses that deliver them to employers all over the country. On the west and east coasts they often are delivered right to the employer.

    Maybe later I’ll post a comment about the house we looked at when we decided to move back to the city. Among other things, I counted 73 beds in a 2 story 10 room house if you count the kitchen and maid’s room with a garage. Just 3 years after the Rockefeller’s stooges Nixon and Kissinger went to China.

  236. @AnotherDad
    @Anon

    The US has fortuitous geography and one aspect of this is not being directly to the large Eastern Hemisphere populations. Folks coming from India or Africa pretty much have to fly to the US, or fly to somewhere in the Western Hemisphere and walk. So they are a legal immigration threat, but not much of an illegal threat.

    There's a reason the US future is "Brazil" and not "India" or much worse "Nigeria".

    Replies: @anon, @Alden, @Anonymous

    Not so fast.

    Guarantee you it will come to pass.

    Just look at Europe, for example. An awfully long way from Congo or Bangladesh, but exponentially increasing numbers from those parts continue to play the ‘Mediterranean Boat Trick’ and con their way in.

  237. @MEH 0910
    @AnotherDad


    That’s the biggest source of “inequality”–crappy parents give their kids not just a crappy environment but … crappy genes!
     
    And since blacks do crappier as a group, it just has to be that blacks have a crappier environment as a group, or else...that means blacks have crappier genes as a group!

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/magazine/rights-exempt/2018/04/genetics/genetics-code-projected-face-african-man-crop.adapt.1900.1.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato

    That soulful accusing and vaguely mocking look of the DNA gangsta.

  238. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    True, but my point is that blacks want to skip all that boring hard stuff and feel entitled to be "equitably" represented just by virtue of being born with black skin. And this is even before we begin the discussion of genetic differences in intelligence.

    Asians (they're wrong about this but you have to give them credit for trying) believe that everyone is capable of doing well in school - if you're not doing well that means you're not trying hard enough and have to work harder and practice more. When blacks aren't doing well, it's not because they have certain genetic deficiencies and it's not because they didn't put the work in, it's only because of invisible "structural racism". There's nothing that they need to be doing better - all that needs to happen is for white people to stop being racist.

    BTW, speaking of that "equitable" cartoon with the short kid standing on two boxes to make up for his lack of height, shouldn't we alter the rules of basketball and football to make it more "equitable" for Asians. When was the last time you saw a Vietnamese cornerback? An Indonesian basketball center? Shouldn't we be giving these guys stilts or a robot suit or something like that to make sports more equitable?

    Replies: @Templar

    .

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Templar


    .
     
    We get your point.
  239. @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    Alarmist, f it comes to any technical climbing, will you be OK with a C.O.C. (Climber Of Color) that you don't know very well belaying you? Just asking for a friend ... who may want your gear if, well, you know ...

    Did you have oxygen up on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    I’d probably stick to a non-technical route 😉

    We had emergency oxygen, but didn’t need it.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  240. Anon[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    @Anon

    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They're called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

    Replies: @Anon

    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They’re called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

    The name “Self Defense Forces” is a fig leaf. Prime Minister Abe wanted to expand their use, and I saw a panel of political commentators discussing it. Someone wondered how it would pass muster with Article 9 of the consitution. Everyone laughed. After you’ve already ignored the provision for not having a military everything else is minor.

    The military is not that small. For instance, it’s several times bigger than Canada’s. Americans have a warped idea of the military. The U.S. has 11 full-sized aircraft carriers. China, Italy, and Spain have 2. Four other countries, including Russia, have 1. Japan has pretty cool helicopter/VTOL carriers however. Right now a subscription dad toy company is selling a weekly model kit via bookstores to make a giant 1:240 metal reproduction of the Japanese carrier flagship, with remote control lights and motos. It puts Lego models to shame.

    https://deagostini.jp/izu/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    If we can delay the war enough, I'm sure Japan will field combat robots that look like anime girls in order to stand a chance against rolling waves of Han assaults.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NYlPoPAxDM

  241. @SFG
    So here's a dirty thought: all this talk about diversity and equity is a way to get rid of the expensive white male gen Xers and boomers.

    A lot of those older folks are hanging around and collecting high salaries. Why not toss them out on their ears and get some new, young, 'diverse' folks in?

    Equity is the new downsizing.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @Mike_from_SGV, @ben tillman, @Desiderius, @Richard B

    The most expensive employees are the incompetent ones you can’t fire.

    Woke Culture is a Bad Business Model.

  242. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    What is "chicken little" about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What is “chicken little” about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?

    I do, too. Which of these cases, overturning statutes enacted by white communities to protect white communities, have you objected to?

    Madalyn Murray O’Hair’s last case

    Planned Parenthood Action Fund: Griswold v. Connecticut

    • Troll: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    You are an anti-White who is yet again obfuscating. The issue isn't teaching evolution and you know it.

    The issue is forced integration, affirmative action, fair housing laws, etc.

    Reg plays games to justify anti-White policie.

  243. @Templar
    @Jack D

    .

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    .

    We get your point.

  244. @Anon7
    @ScarletNumber

    Scarlet! You're back.

    Actually, I only told the quick version of this story because it's one of the incidents that really brought me over from liberalism on this very site some years ago, and I've commented on it before.

    Here, see if you believe a longer version. My son was in the first few months of sixth grade, and I got an interim grade report saying he was getting a "C" in math. Not sure of what to do, I arranged for an appointment with his teacher.

    Oh, yes, she said. I divide grading into tests, homework and in class assignments. And your son is getting a "C" in all three, so that's a "C".

    Tell me about the tests, I said. She said that the tests consisted of 30-35 questions. I asked how many answers he got right out of the total possible. She said that my son always got all the answers right.

    What?

    He has to show his work, she insisted. Do you think that a kid who just writes down correct answers is a "C" student? I knew that he had terrible handwriting (and still does) and it's hard for him. (*More busy work writing.)

    Okay, how about homework. Same story, he gets all the answers, but doesn't show his work. Also, and more importantly, he doesn't keep a neat notebook, with a table of contents, with all his homework, in order (*clerical speed and accuracy).

    And in class? Well, in class assignments are *very social in nature. Lots of *talking about how to do the problem. Lots of *extra writing. Lots of narrative driven *story problems. Once your son knows how to do a kind of problem, he loses interest, said the teacher.

    So, I went home and had a talk with my son. He decided to do extra math at a local tutoring place. He placed out of several years of junior high math. He finished BC calculus as a high school junior, and took Honors Math Analysis at the University in our university town as a high school senior. About 20 kids per year take it, because it involves about fifty hours of homework per week. One of those courses where, in the first semester, they don't give you any numbers - you have to build the real numbers before you get to play with them. All proofs. As a college freshman, he took graduate level math and tutored senior engineering students on the tough parts.

    So what do you think, Scarlet? Good story telling, or a horror story about how talented boys are treated by female Leftist teacher's union employees? I know, I know, you're just one of the trolls who like to tweak Steve's earnest commenters, but perhaps some of Steve's current readers enjoyed it.

    Replies: @photondancer, @nebulafox, @ScarletNumber

    So what do you think, Scarlet?

    I had forgotten that you were the moron from a few weeks ago. Thank you for reinforcing my prior suspicion. I should really start keeping a list.

    Interestingly enough, Beth, Bath & Beyond is one of the stocks that are the focus of the current situation between Reddit and the hedgefunders. Hopefully someone here was able to make some money on it.

  245. @Muggles
    @Jonathan Mason


    It is a bit of a mystery to me as to how economics can work backwards in the United States compared to other countries, unless people are being cheated in the United States.
     
    Yes, when you are totally ignorant about a subject, everything is a 'bit of a mystery.'

    I hate to be so harsh, but there are literally thousands of books about economics, how markets work, and the details of logistics, economies of scale, cost accounting and profit and loss, et. al.

    Spoke and hub distribution makes a lot of sense for many reasons you might want to actually study.

    Personal time is a resource also, as others here note. In developed countries it makes sense to pay for time saving products and services. Subsistence lifestyles aren't much fun. Do you want to stand around all day selling juice in small cups? Drink strange stuff from cups sold by the destitute? You can probably find that in some homeless camps in the States. But somehow actual stores and packaged products are preferred.

    Musical notation is 'a bit of a mystery to me.' But I don't claim it is a waste of time or that those who sell or use sheet music are cheating those who do.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Musical notation is ‘a bit of a mystery to me.’

    Every Good Boy Deserves Fellatio

    • Agree: El Dato
  246. @Anon
    @Hibernian


    Their armed forces are small, and should be larger. They’re called a self defense force, sort of like our Defense Department. We need them as allies against China and Russia.

     

    The name "Self Defense Forces" is a fig leaf. Prime Minister Abe wanted to expand their use, and I saw a panel of political commentators discussing it. Someone wondered how it would pass muster with Article 9 of the consitution. Everyone laughed. After you've already ignored the provision for not having a military everything else is minor.

    The military is not that small. For instance, it's several times bigger than Canada's. Americans have a warped idea of the military. The U.S. has 11 full-sized aircraft carriers. China, Italy, and Spain have 2. Four other countries, including Russia, have 1. Japan has pretty cool helicopter/VTOL carriers however. Right now a subscription dad toy company is selling a weekly model kit via bookstores to make a giant 1:240 metal reproduction of the Japanese carrier flagship, with remote control lights and motos. It puts Lego models to shame.

    https://deagostini.jp/site/izu/pretop/images/main_img.png

    https://deagostini.jp/izu/

    Replies: @El Dato

    If we can delay the war enough, I’m sure Japan will field combat robots that look like anime girls in order to stand a chance against rolling waves of Han assaults.

  247. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    What is “chicken little” about pointing out widespread anti-White policies that do real harm to White people?
     
    I do, too. Which of these cases, overturning statutes enacted by white communities to protect white communities, have you objected to?


    Madalyn Murray O'Hair's last case

    Planned Parenthood Action Fund: Griswold v. Connecticut


    https://image.slidesharecdn.com/eppersonv-arkansas-090421222452-phpapp02/95/epperson-v-arkansas-2-728.jpg?cb=1240352713

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    You are an anti-White who is yet again obfuscating. The issue isn’t teaching evolution and you know it.

    The issue is forced integration, affirmative action, fair housing laws, etc.

    Reg plays games to justify anti-White policie.

  248. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @photondancer

    In America it’s not foreign students who work and live in the cheap buffets. It’s indentured servant illegals smuggled in often in shipping containers. All over California there are asian sewing factories wherever they can be set up. Homes office space garages. All a garment factory needs is sewing machines, chairs cutting table iron and iron board. 15 sewing machines cutting table ironing board fit in an average garage.

    San Francisco all over the Richmond Sunset Chinese neighborhoods. It’s townhouses on top of a garage. House wall right up on the sidewalk. Sometimes the garages are open. Walking by one can see the Chinese at the sewing machines.

    Or the illegal chicken slaughter house. Crates of live chickens in the garage. Seriously skinny sickly Chinese men killing the chickens, de feathering de gutting and cutting them up on the floor.

    Both my adult sons live in the city and see this. It’s been going on for decades. The chicken pieces go to the gazillion Chinese restaurants and food markets in the city. It’s totally illegal to have a poultry slaughterhouse processing factory on the floor of a single family house garage.
    And nothing is done.

    In San Francisco the Chinese ships unload the containers full of illegal indentured servants on foggy nights at the old Bethlehem Steel and Hunters Point shipyard wharves abandoned for 40 years. The employers are waiting, with small buses vans and panel trucks to whisk them away.
    Like the indentured servant massage and brothel girls the indentured servants are never seen in public ever. The windows are covered. They roll out the blankets and sleep where they work.

    And nothing is done. Because it would be racist to enforce basic health and safety laws on non Whites.

    S California, it’s all over the east of Los Angeles San Gabriel suburbs. The whole operation is hidden. Only give away is when they’re cooking that smelly rotten fish guts & garlic sauce. Or when you’re in a food market and see someone with 4 20 pound bags of rice in the cart. They’ve got a factory full of slaves to feed.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    All over California there are asian sewing factories wherever they can be set up. Homes office space garages. All a garment factory needs is sewing machines, chairs cutting table iron and iron board. 15 sewing machines cutting table ironing board fit in an average garage.

    San Francisco all over the Richmond Sunset Chinese neighborhoods. It’s townhouses on top of a garage. House wall right up on the sidewalk. Sometimes the garages are open. Walking by one can see the Chinese at the sewing machines.

    How does the economics of this work? Textiles is an extremely low margin business. You only make money either as a luxury brand that can charge a premium or by producing at scale in large manufacturing operations. How do these small sewing operations in very high rent areas compete with textile imports from China? Wouldn’t you make more just renting the space to software engineers or something?

    The economics for the cheap Chinese buffets and restaurants works out because these restaurants can be found in very low rent areas in strip malls, exurbs, black ghettoes, etc. and they produce a non-tradeable service i.e. a restaurant meal that doesn’t have to face competition from imports.

  249. The issue is forced integration, affirmative action, fair housing laws, etc.

    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don’t. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It’s only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.

    You’ve defended the plantation economy, presumably because you’d like to see it return. But it was based upon forced integration.

    And upon affirmative action. We’re always told how much richer, healthier, and freer our primitives are than their cousins back home. True! But what is that, but affirmative action? What did they do to earn any of this largesse?

    If Asians were buying up your county, covenanting you out of the best properties and pricing you out of the rest, you would be the loudest one in the crowd calling for “fair housing”.

    The original anti-white policy is allowing alien races in whites’ territory at all. There is no excuse for it, then or now.

    My county is about 95% white, and has only about 25 blacks total. Tell me, what is your plan to have your county reach these figures? Please spell it out, so others can follow it.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don’t. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It’s only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.
     
    So you have zero tribal or racial loyalty.

    You’ve defended the plantation economy
     
    No, I condemned Lincoln's war that killed 700,000 Americans.

    This game of "I stand on Muh Principles" while watching Whites be destroyed is sociopathic. You're Goddamn right I don't extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar

  250. @Reg Cæsar

    The issue is forced integration, affirmative action, fair housing laws, etc.

     

    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don't. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It's only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.

    You've defended the plantation economy, presumably because you'd like to see it return. But it was based upon forced integration.

    And upon affirmative action. We're always told how much richer, healthier, and freer our primitives are than their cousins back home. True! But what is that, but affirmative action? What did they do to earn any of this largesse?

    If Asians were buying up your county, covenanting you out of the best properties and pricing you out of the rest, you would be the loudest one in the crowd calling for "fair housing".

    The original anti-white policy is allowing alien races in whites' territory at all. There is no excuse for it, then or now.

    My county is about 95% white, and has only about 25 blacks total. Tell me, what is your plan to have your county reach these figures? Please spell it out, so others can follow it.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don’t. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It’s only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.

    So you have zero tribal or racial loyalty.

    You’ve defended the plantation economy

    No, I condemned Lincoln’s war that killed 700,000 Americans.

    This game of “I stand on Muh Principles” while watching Whites be destroyed is sociopathic. You’re Goddamn right I don’t extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @RichardTaylor

    The crux of this matter is that there were four founding stock nations and you and Mr. Caesar represent the two most opposed to each other.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    You’re ✝️damn right I don’t extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.
     
    Then why won't you admit that (((legal abortion))), (((legal contraception))), (((removal of Christian prayer from the schools))), etc., were the opening wedges in that effort to destroy? Why don't you stand up for your own people's effort to stem these? (OK, in Griswold it was my people's effort. You could get condoms in truck-stop restrooms throughout Dixie.)

    I don’t extend the same rights...
     
    You get to own and boss around other races, but other races don't get to own and boss around you. Or even other subraces, as your Yankee-hatred is based upon.
  251. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don’t. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It’s only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.
     
    So you have zero tribal or racial loyalty.

    You’ve defended the plantation economy
     
    No, I condemned Lincoln's war that killed 700,000 Americans.

    This game of "I stand on Muh Principles" while watching Whites be destroyed is sociopathic. You're Goddamn right I don't extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar

    The crux of this matter is that there were four founding stock nations and you and Mr. Caesar represent the two most opposed to each other.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    The crux of this matter is that there were four founding stock nations and you and Mr. Caesar represent the two most opposed to each other.

     

    Yes. And his is the original champion of diversity and inclusion!



    https://hankeringforhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/Servants.png

    https://meetmythamerica.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/maid.jpg?w=640

    And gun control.

    Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243 (1846)
  252. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Takimag doesn't have commenting anymore, Jim. It's been 2 or 3 years.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jim Christian

    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore, Jim. It’s been 2 or 3 years.

    Behind the paywall they do, no? Takimag sports a come -on to a twelve dollar subscription by way of their “World Famous Comments Section”. Or used to. Taki’s daughter runs the thing and censors harder than a schoolmarm. So the story was a couple years back.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Oh, I didn't know there WAS a paywall, Jim. I probably missed that. I only go there now for the Steve Sailer columns (used to be Jim Goad too and David Cole, but at least the former is not on there, is he?)

  253. @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Takimag doesn’t have commenting anymore, Jim. It’s been 2 or 3 years.
     
    Behind the paywall they do, no? Takimag sports a come -on to a twelve dollar subscription by way of their "World Famous Comments Section". Or used to. Taki's daughter runs the thing and censors harder than a schoolmarm. So the story was a couple years back.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, I didn’t know there WAS a paywall, Jim. I probably missed that. I only go there now for the Steve Sailer columns (used to be Jim Goad too and David Cole, but at least the former is not on there, is he?)

  254. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar


    I support freedom of association across the board. The Golden Rule.

    You don’t. You support all those things when they work in your favor. It’s only when they go the other way that you suddenly discover principle.
     
    So you have zero tribal or racial loyalty.

    You’ve defended the plantation economy
     
    No, I condemned Lincoln's war that killed 700,000 Americans.

    This game of "I stand on Muh Principles" while watching Whites be destroyed is sociopathic. You're Goddamn right I don't extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar

    You’re ✝️damn right I don’t extend the same rights to those seeking to destroy my people as I do my own.

    Then why won’t you admit that (((legal abortion))), (((legal contraception))), (((removal of Christian prayer from the schools))), etc., were the opening wedges in that effort to destroy? Why don’t you stand up for your own people’s effort to stem these? (OK, in Griswold it was my people’s effort. You could get condoms in truck-stop restrooms throughout Dixie.)

    I don’t extend the same rights…

    You get to own and boss around other races, but other races don’t get to own and boss around you. Or even other subraces, as your Yankee-hatred is based upon.

    • Troll: RichardTaylor
  255. @Hibernian
    @RichardTaylor

    The crux of this matter is that there were four founding stock nations and you and Mr. Caesar represent the two most opposed to each other.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The crux of this matter is that there were four founding stock nations and you and Mr. Caesar represent the two most opposed to each other.

    Yes. And his is the original champion of diversity and inclusion!

    And gun control.

    Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243 (1846)

    • Troll: RichardTaylor
  256. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    We need a 50% wealth tax on billionaires.
     
    More useful would be 1% financial transactions tax.

    One of the (many) things that has gone wrong in the United States is that the middle men rather than the producers are in charge, and have increasingly pushed policies that create looting opportunities for non-productive activity.

    We have a plethora of people making money in non-productive--what are supposed to be "support" activities; finance, law, lobbying, government--activities, taking a nice whack of the money that floats by.

    But all this non-productive glop must be supported by--comes at the expense of--productive activity or by selling off US assets to foreigners, or the Fed simply printing money both of which run down the future prosperity of Americans.

    Tax the bullshit activity and orient the US economy--capital and labor--back toward real production.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    “Real production here” would mean we’d actually MAKE things here!

    And that would require hiring workers who actually live here ( Americans, for gosh sake!) to work in the factories here.

    And that would create tens of millions of jobs for ordinary Americans who could then access the middle-class WITHOUT the need for the intellectual skills which most of them don’t have in the first place!

    And that would greatly ease our current racial and social tensions. Why, it would even make a much more united and happy America!

    Which is why TPTB will never allow it . . .

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