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Of course, if you want hatred and demonization of Austrians and gays (Bruno), Slavs (Borat), Pakistani wiggers (Ali G), or anti-Israel Muslim dictators and pro-Palestinian feminists (The Dictator), watch my movies!

Seriously, as I wrote in 2012 in Taki’s Magazine in a review of The Dictator:

Ever since Republican-allied Bibi Netanyahu‘s 2009 election in Israel, America’s liberal press — presumably out of fear it might threaten Barack Hussein Obama’s reelection — has been warning that “Islamophobia” is an evil comparable to homophobia.

Yet Baron Cohen, whose grandmother lives in Israel, appears not to have gotten the memo. The Dictator indulges in almost every derogatory stereotype I’ve ever heard about Arabs and/or Muslims. And guess what? Stereotypes are funny, especially if motivated by an ethnic animus as deep-seated as Baron Cohen’s. The star, who speaks Hebrew, lovingly fondles all the throat-clearing sounds in Aladeen’s similarly Semitic Arabic.

Critics are finally starting to get the joke about Baron Cohen’s movies, or are at least getting worried that there is a joke. For instance, poor Andrew O’Hehir wonders in Salon, “What exactly is Sacha Baron Cohen up to?”

In the past, Baron Cohen’s satires have generated reams of excusatory explication about how the crude jokes are actually so meta that they’re really politically correct. But that gag is running a little thin with The Dictator, which is directed by Larry Charles (Larry David’s second fiddle on Seinfeld) and written by Baron Cohen, Alec Berg, David Mandel, and Jeff Schaffer none of whom, I’ll hazard to guess, are Arabs poking gentle fun at their own people’s foibles.

SBC’s Hollywood team has a lot of overlap in personnel with Larry David’s team. These guys are very funny and they are not very politically correct.

What’s the common denominator behind Baron Cohen’s four movies, Ali G Indahouse, Borat, Bruno, and now The Dictator? This conundrum has baffled the best minds in the film criticism business. Yet consider why Baron Cohen goes out of his way in The Dictator to ridicule a seemingly harmless Brooklyn grocery co-op. A little Googling dredges up the five-year-long battle within the Park Slope Food Coop over whether to ban Israeli products to protest oppression of the Palestinians.

Once you notice the pattern, the pieces fall into place: Baron Cohen never forgets. His four main characters have been animated by his weapons-grade animus against present or past foes of the Jews. At the pace he’s going, he might eventually get around to making a movie mocking the Amalekites, the Hebrews’ archetypal enemies since the Old Testament.

For example, Ali G, the “The Voice of the Yoof,” started out as an assimilated British Muslim chav (note Ali G’s references to his Uncle Jamal [who runs a curry restaurant]), but was retconned into Alistair Graham because WASPs are always fair game.

Why is Baron Cohen’s gay fashionista Bruno an Austrian? What has any Austrian ever done to the Jews?…oh.

How about Borat, who is supposed to be a Kazakh? Why would a Jewish man hate Kazakhs?…oh. “Kazakhs” equal (in Baron Cohen’s mind) “Cossacks,” as in the pogrom right before the intermission in Fiddler on the Roof. (At Cambridge University, Baron Cohen played Tevye.)

Baron Cohen doesn’t portray Borat as an exotic Central Asian; he plays him as one long Polack joke. In an essay in the Jewish Daily Forward about the roots of Baron Cohen’s comedy perceptively titled “Life Among the Goyim,” Andrew R. Heinze, author of Jews and the American Soul, notes:

In Borat, we see the recycling of one of the most basic stereotypes in the Jewish imagination: the viscerally antisemitic Slavic peasant.

Humor’s chief engine is hostility, and Jewish hostility has driven comedy forward for much of the last century. It’s OK to allow yourself to finally get the joke.

 
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  1. JohnnyD says:

    A little off topic: SBC was really good at playing Eli Cohen, Israel’s most successful spy, in a Netflix series.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Bugg
    , @Altai
    , @Ian Smith
  2. anon[559] • Disclaimer says:

    Baron Cohen doesn’t portray Borat as an exotic Central Asian; he plays him as one long Polack joke.

    Kazakhs are Chinese looking Muslims that speak Russian.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  3. J.Ross says:

    What an utter slimeball. “My full speech here.”
    In the name of combatting anti-Semitism, Mr. Baron-Cohen should be followed for the rest of his life by someone who will assure anyone Baron-Cohen encounters (let alone addresses) that “Sascha Baron-Cohen is not representative of the Jewish people.” Like the Praetorian guard reciting that the triumphing general is mortal, but for malice instead of hubris.
    ——–
    Amazon’s TV series department is doing conquistador Hernan Cortes. Supposed to be trying to be accurate, native languages. Hernan is wearing a bomber jacket in the promotional pic, and the person in the center is the native female translator, so who knows. A lot to screw up but a great story if they get it even half right. Because they understand the internet about as well as Disney, so this will only be released to the Spanish-speaking New World, which probably means I’ll have it about a month after its release.

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
  4. Dumbo says:

    The only film I watched by him was Borat and I found it mostly unfunny and occasionally disgusting. I don’t know why he is famous or why people like his films. It’s a mystery to me, like Adam Sandler. Yes, both are Jewish, it’s partly networking, whatever, but a lot of non-Jews watch their movies and make them popular.

    His cousin’s work with autism seems more interesting. I wonder what the Baron-Cohens thinks of each other? Maybe he’s the clown of the family.

  5. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    Man, I forgot about Borat. Talk about a movie that does not age well.

    Borat is from the pre-Wikipedia era, when the Internet was in its infancy. During this time, digging up someone’s ethnic background wasn’t feasible. My how times have changed, and the pattern begins to emerge — hence, Every.Single.Time.

    It still blows my mind that most Jews do not realize the gig is up. I guess when you’ve been playing the same shell game for a few hundred years, it’s difficult to change course. But the results are increasingly hilarious — for example, Jews driving #MeToo in effort to hurt Trump, only to backfire massively. Turns out, the vast majority of the #MeToo perps were Jewish men, and the people who covered it up were Jewish. Whoopsie.

    Expect before it’s all over with Cohen will get roped into something as well.

  6. There is a a big problem in our country, and the problem is censorship.

    Is there some action we can take, so that our country can be free?

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  7. Humor’s chief engine is hostility, and Jewish hostility has driven comedy forward for much of the last century. It’s OK to allow yourself to finally get the joke.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  8. Lot says:

    I agree that SBC’s humor is on the mean side. Probably Bruno and Borat the least so, as they are dumb but well meaning.

    I don’t see any anti-Austrian element to Bruno, more likely he thought (correctly) an extra flaming gay would be even funnier with a German accent. SNL kind of did the same with Mike Myers and Will Ferrell’s gay Germans in the Sprockets sketches.

    His jokes also involving the characters saying crazy things that could possibly be a language issue. Ali G is so dumb and into slang he doesn’t speak standard English well, the rest are ESL.

  9. El Dato says:

    “It’s ok to be an Amalekite!”

    But whatever did the Zuckerberg-held Faceberg do that is antisemitic enough to invite Borat’s Wrath?

    Runs some addies for Corbyn perhaps?

  10. Being nagged by a newly PC Borat is rich. Reformed libertines and former libertarians make the worst scolds.

  11. There is a real hatred for Mark Zuckerberg in the Jewish community that goes beyond criticism of Facebook. I suspect it is a visceral hatred of another Jew who has turned their back on the group and undermined several of their mechanisms for shaping discourse. If Mark were a Gentile, they would not be as vitriolic. Granted, there would be more personal smears and pile-ons.

    For Jewish readers, is there an equivalent of Judas Iscariot or Ephialtes in Jewish lore?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @ben tillman
    , @Ian M.
  12. BenKenobi says:

    Check out his speech. There’s a new spin: “freedom of speech is not freedom of reach”, social media is not for “bigots and “pedophiles” to spread their message. Nice equivalency, there (pedos have a message?)

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Forbes
  13. TK421 says:

    O/T – from the Problems We Didn’t Know We Had department – gay white men aren’t having enough sex with gay black men.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/sexual-racism-queer-men-dating-apps-grindr-2019-11

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Lot
    , @duncsbaby
  14. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Wish a movie could get made that made fun of everybody equally, from the confusion in Harlem on fathers day, to the most incomprehensibly accented redneck speaking through chewin’tobacco, the japanese with the wierdest fetish hobby to the most meddlesome Jewish mother driving her poor son crazy. Talented screenwriters, producers, actors, and directors exist. It be a great way to tell the offense-obsessed folks to have a beer and get over it.

    • Replies: @SFG
  15. J1234 says:

    That guy stands as a great example – archetype, really – of the type of celebrity that the progressive entertainment industrial complex often churns out: someone you almost never hear people on the street quote, reference or talk about, yet despite his lack of popularity, he’s dredged up every few years by his industry to “channel” a “voice” that the industry either imagines or invents.

    For this reason, there’s a sort of uninspired and obligatory reverence afforded him by progressive audiences…something on the order of the “reverence” afforded performance art, bad poetry and old political folk songs. Several years ago he adopted one of his comic personas and performed at Harvard or Yale or someplace, where it was recorded. I’d never seen laughter so mechanical and polite before. And why wouldn’t it be? He’s rarely funny. Watching that audience was kind of like watching a bunch of plumbers and electricians sitting through an opera.

  16. SFG says:

    I actually really liked Ali G, Borat, and Bruno. I still show some of his clips to people. There’s a bit where he tells feminists that a lot of men are encouraging their girlfriends to try feminism, and it gradually comes out he means fooling around with women. The feminist then assures him there is no connection between lesbianism and feminism. I like un-PC comedy.

    But, eh, has to be woke now, I guess? It’s just really dumb coming from him of all people. I mean, the Gypsy jokes…?

    My best guess is now that everyone knows who he is he can’t do his old offensive comedy shtick anymore, so he has to pretend to be woke. Or something. Unlike Louis CK, he can’t double down on being offensive because he can’t do the secret identity thing anymore. So, he has to claim to be woke.

    It’s stupid.

  17. SFG says:
    @BenKenobi

    There are pedophilia advocacy groups, NAMBLA for instance.

    As you point out, it’s a false equivalence, as (almost) everyone from all ends of the spectrum hates pedophiles, whereas ‘bigots’…well, who’s a bigot depends a lot on who you ask.

  18. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    “Think about it. Facebook, YouTube and Google, Twitter and others – they reach billions of people. The algorithms these platforms depend on deliberately amplify the type of content that keeps users engaged – stories that appeal to our baser instincts and that trigger outrage and fear.

    Sacha Baron Cohen was the original /pol/ shitposter.

    I also like the spokesman for the ADL complaining about election manipulation.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    , @Chrisnonymous
  19. AndrewR says:

    Jewish fear and loathing of white goyim and our freedom of speech never ceases to amaze.

  20. utu says:

    Humor’s chief engine is hostility, and Jewish hostility has driven comedy forward for much of the last century.

  21. SFG says:
    @Anon

    Wasn’t that more or less Blazing Saddles?

    I mean, Mel Brooks movies used to be full of Jewish jokes at least. Remember the Druish princess in Spaceballs?

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  22. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Intersectional Sacha tried to spoof a California gun store a few years ago for one of his specials. Fail.

    https://www.newsweek.com/video-sacha-baron-cohen-caught-trying-fool-california-gun-shop-owner-youre-1029477

    Here’s vid from the link. Fake beard on a fake Hungarian in order to make fake news. Fake off, Borat.

    • Replies: @anon
  23. Lot says:
    @JohnnyD

    That was probably the best movie I’ve watched in the past year.

    Amazing true story with tons of action and well made in every respect.

  24. Bugg says:
    @JohnnyD

    I enjoyed this series too. But it mocked everyone who wasn’t a Jew on several levels.. Cohen played an Israeli hero, completely straight, without any comedy. Except he manages to mock Syrian Arabs as dummies who fall for his undercover guise completely. To a point, no doubt this is true given the facts. Portrays one of the Syrian leaders who falls for it as literally a cuck, others as corrupt and drunk, and the head of the security services who finally catches him as a Nazi. It is a compelling story. But what is left out really is why Israel left him in place so log when he could have been removed safely numerous times. If the Syrians were this dumb, could’ve pretended he was killed in a traffic accident in LA or a robbery in London.

  25. Did Sasha Cohen give permission for the use of her image?

    pro-Palestinian feminists

    Jewish women are subject to the draft, but Arab men are exempt. The feminists WON!

    …“Islamophobia” is an evil comparable to homophobia.

    In one sense, it is. Both are crises made up to yank our chains.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  26. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:
    @JohnnyD

    In January 1947, Eli enlisted in the Egyptian Army as an alternative to paying the prescribed sum that all young Jews were obliged to pay, but he was declared ineligible on grounds of questionable loyalty.

    Cohen was of old Aleppo Jewish origins, though he was born in Alexandria (Another country he couldn’t give his loyalty to and which was apparently so obvious that he wasn’t even allowed serve as a lowly conscript for his national service) and could speak Arabic fluently with a Syrian accent. (As well as looking the part unlike the Ashkenazim) He decided to use these to pretend to be Arab. To the Israelis he is a heroic figure, to the Arabs, he is a validation of every Anti-Semitic stereotype. But really, it’s hard to like a spy who is as much a con man as this, even for a spy it’s low:

    His most famous achievement was the tour of the Golan Heights in which he collected intelligence on the Syrian fortifications there. He feigned sympathy for the soldiers exposed to the sun and had trees planted at every position, ostensibly placed to provide shade. The Israel Defense Forces used the trees as targeting markers during the Six-Day War, which enabled Israel to capture the Golan Heights in two days.

    It says a lot about the other Cohen that he sees him as a hero.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
  27. @TK421

    gay white men aren’t having enough sex with gay black men.

    Whatever men are “having” with other men, it isn’t sex.

  28. Hhsiii says:
    @Lot

    Ali G was better because he took the piss out of politically correct elitists by getting them to bend over backwards for his yooth of the streets. It didn’t work with Trump or Buchanan, but with Brent Scowcroft or Boutros Boutros Gali it did (and was even better when he did it originally in England).

    I liked Borat but some of it was meanly taking advantage of decent non elites.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  29. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Borat is clearly a parody of Muslims in the main, not Slavs. Borat’s character traits, such as being very anti-gay, having a sleazy obsession with Pamela Anderson and being hysterically anti-Jewish are clearly intended to be interpreted as Muslim traits in my opinion.

    I think he probably chose Kazakhstan so it isn’t entirely clear who he is supposed to be parodying and therefore avoid accusations of overt Islamophobia. The only overtly Slav trait he has is the anti-Gypsy sentiment but that came across more as an attempt to throw people off the scent of Islamophobia than because Borat is supposed to be a Slav.

    • Agree: Cortes
  30. jeppo says:

    Listen up
    Me name be Buchanan
    Me knows nuff tings bout politics
    Get involved mack daddies
    Y’all better realize
    That nuthin be a better way
    To get yo kicks
    West side ayee

  31. Hail says: • Website

    This from his award acceptance speech. It is a joke, I think:

    If a neo-Nazi comes goose-stepping into a restaurant and starts threatening other customers and saying he wants kill Jews, would the owner of the restaurant be required to serve him an elegant eight-course meal?

    The next line. Ready?

    Of course not! The restaurant owner has every legal right and a moral obligation to kick the Nazi out, and so do these internet companies.

    You thought that was a joke wind-up, and that he was ready deliver some kind of clever punch-line? No! No joke for you! Take a moralizing finger-wag and sit down, losers.

    Headline if the press were honest: “Edgy, offensive comedian calls for mass censorship.”

    • Replies: @Hail
  32. Is this just a tease to prime us for his next movie about SJWs?

    One can only hope.

  33. JohnnyD says:
    @Altai

    Well, from the Israeli/Jewish standpoint he was a patriot who gave his life for his country.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  34. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    I guess when you’ve been playing the same shell game for a few hundred thousand years, it’s difficult to change course.

    FIFY.

  35. Forbes says:
    @BenKenobi

    There’s inappropriate touching on social media? Was wasn’t I informed?

    These are the same attitudes that describe speech as violence. They’re truly bonkers–using the technical term.

  36. Lot says:
    @TK421

    “ Among males aged 15–19 years, the rate of reported chlamydia cases among Blacks was 9.1 times the rate among Whites”

    “ In 2018, the overall rate of reported gonorrhea cases among Blacks in the United States was 7.7 times the rate among Whites ”

    “ The rate of reported P&S syphilis cases among Blacks was 4.7 times the rate among Whites”

    Herpes 2:

    For the big one, HIV, the first study I found, from 2010, said 8% of white and 32% of black gay men have HIV. Even that understates the danger of GRIDRing a black guy. Of the 8% of white gays with HIV, 51% are being treated for it and 33% have undetectable virus levels and thus very low risk of transmission. For blacks those numbers are 34% and 16%.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  37. Forbes says:
    @Altai

    deliberately amplify the type of content that keeps users engaged – stories that appeal to our baser instincts and that trigger outrage and fear.

    Speak for yourself, Borat. What we’re dealing with is psychological projection of his instincts, and it triggers his inner dictator.

    What he’s describing doesn’t appeal to me at all–whether baser instinct, or outrage and fear.

  38. Lot says:
    @Dumbo

    “ It’s a mystery to me, like Adam Sandler. ”

    Sandler is a registered Republican, nice to see that in a movie star. But I’ve found him painfully bad to watch since his SNL days. People say he has his moments in a few of his movies, but I’ve seen enough I am not risking it.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  39. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Another highlight from Sacha Baron Cohen’s ADL speech.

    [I]f Facebook were around in the 1930s, it would have allowed Hitler to post 30-second ads on his “solution” to the “Jewish problem.”

    So here’s a good standard and practice: Facebook, start fact-checking political ads before you run them, stop micro-targeted lies immediately, and when the ads are false, give back the money and don’t publish them.

    Mr. Cohen definitely has your best interests in mind.

  40. SBC’s Hollywood team has a lot of overlap in personnel with Larry David’s team. These guys are very funny and they are not very politically correct.

    Yes, but will they survive the purge? They have sown the wind….

  41. @Hail

    Mr. Cohen definitely has your best interests in mind.

    And I have his “best” interests in mind too. Oh yes I do.

  42. J.Ross says:
    @Curious About Something

    There is a real hatred for Mark Zuckerberg in the Jewish community that goes beyond criticism of Facebook.

    Yeah, that’s probably because the Jews criticized here and elsewhere are squeaky wheel activists, the disproportionately loud minority, whereas most Jews are decent people. There’s probably Jews angry about Michelle Malkin being fired, but not celebrities or thought leaders.
    Another possibility: the Jews really had it all locked up, they had communications in the palm of their hand, then new media happened and they were Ray Liotta’s character in Goodfellas pretending to enjoy picking up the morning newspaper while remembering that he once had a model on his bed and a large porcelain container of cocaine under it. Zuck is the closest thing they had to a Pulitzer of new media and he screwed up. Were he to pull off a new Bernaysism of iphone blipverts, all would be forgiven.

    a Jewish Judas

    Donin. Christians had a vague tolerance of Jews (with notable outliers like St Ambrose, who specifically demanded that the government tolerate anti-Jewish violence, and, because of the youth of the emperor, won it) and converted some. Donin converted, then got that Jewish Impulse to Help Society [brief note, anti-Semitic advice to Jews: when you, Jew, get that Impulse to Help Society — ignore it. Have a juicy steak with thoroughly maillarded bread and lots of alcohol instead of, say, nagging the government to tax soda pop or curtail rights]. He approached his new Christian brothers and asked if they had ever actually read the Talmud, and of course they hadn’t, but they also didn’t really care about it. So he helped them read the Talmud. You can see where this is going. Or, centuries later but along the same lines, Eisenmenger. Eisenmenger was a Gentile who converted to Judaism, and was so in love with it that he wanted to become a rabbi. So he started to attend yeshiva. Again, that Talmud; Eisenmenger, shocked by what he discovered in it, translated the worst sections into German, published it, and went from an extreme case philo-Semite to one of the major European anti-Semites.

  43. @utu

    Jewish hostility has driven comedy forward for much of the last century.

    You can replace ‘comedy’ with ‘society’ and ‘forward’ with ‘backward’.

  44. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Dumbo

    Same here, turned Borat off about a third in. I don’t find Ali G funny either, maybe it’s just me.

    • Replies: @black sea
  45. @Lot

    HIV, the first study I found, from 2010, said 8% of white and 32% of black gay men have HIV.

    That’s impossible to know. They have no idea how many men are gay, not to mention how many black men are on the ‘down low’. They take samples from men who present with medical conditions, and/or have their blood drawn for other reasons. Those are not remotely representative samples.

    Your general points about the increased risks (to men and women) of sex with black males are well-taken, though. Even if the samples aren’t representative, the disparities are likely meaningful.

    • Replies: @Lot
  46. @Hail

    [I]f Facebook were around in the 1930s, it would have allowed Hitler to post 30-second ads on his “solution” to the “Jewish problem.”

    Jews are calling Zuckerberg a Nazi now? Reminds me of domestic Israeli politics. They call everyone and everything they don’t like a Nazi, much as they do here in the USA.

    • Replies: @Hail
  47. @utu

    Humor’s chief engine is hostility, and Jewish hostility has driven comedy forward for much of the last century.

    That’s a great quote.

    I’ve noticed that when interviewed or when speaking off-the-cuff and offstage, many great comedians are angrier than I could’ve possibly imagined, and that this angry edge stays in their tone even when their comedy days are behind them.

    Maybe not all comedians. I don’t think this applies to Bob Hope or Will Rogers. But certainly many have that characteristic where you go, “Whoa, dude, where has your sense of humor gone?” Everyone from Charles Chaplin to Jim Carrey to Robin Williams to Sarah Silverman. And they often work it into their comedy.

    A normal person who goes to their show might think they’re just making a joke when they roast some target, but they’re really not just making a joke.

  48. anon[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    “Borat” wants to buy a gun to defend himself against Jews. Trolling some guy who runs a store.
    Hah. Hah. Very. Funny. Not.

  49. This seems apropos. I’ve never heard it laid out this honestly before.

    Apparently it comes from the 1 hr, 5 min mark of: “Part of the Problem #511 – Jews Call Out Other Jews for Being Jews” on YouTube.

  50. @SFG

    Remember the Druish princess in Spaceballs?

    Yes, and as Mel Brooks subtlety drove the point home, he had John Candy say, “Funny, she doesn’t look Druish”.

  51. @Dumbo

    I am generally not a fan of humor that makes real people look foolish and plays on their good nature, but Borat was a funny movie.

    Adam Sandler is so successful that he has his own successful production company, but to me his early movies are laugh-out-loud funny, namely Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore. Sandler calls his company Happy Madison.

  52. Baron Cohen made an excellent point in his speech, which was that these various social media sites are in fact publishers and ought to be held to the same standards.

    As one headline put it, just think what Goebbels could have done with Facebook

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/22/sacha-baron-cohen-facebook-would-have-sold-final-solution-ads-to-hitler

    However his point that Facebook would have sold final solution ads to Hitler is incorrect, because mass extermination was never a de facto official policy of the Third Reich, just a pragmatic solution that it was cheaper to kill people or work them to death than to feed them and provide them with medical care– a point that a shrewd businessman like Mark Zuckerberg would probably appreciate.

    (Incidentally, although Jews bore the brunt of concentration camp and extermination camp deaths in the three extermination camps, Chelmno, Belzec, and Sobibor, and of course Auschwitz , which was a forced labor camp with a massive extermination annexe,they were by no means the only victims, and communists, Russian POWs, gypsies, criminals, alcoholics, mentally handicapped people, and political opponents of all kinds were also killed in vast numbers during the Nazi reign of horrors due to the fact that concentration camps and extermination camps were a feature, not a bug of Nazi Germany.

    Of course we all know that the real reason Facebook does not want to fact check political advertising is just that it is more profitable not to have to employ relatively highly educated people to do that job, and has nothing to do with freedom of speech, and simply because one person’s conspiracy theory is someone else’s objective truth, so you can never win.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Laugh Track
  53. jim jones says:
    @Lot

    Where do they find the hysterical people to make up the audience for these shows?

  54. SBC’s only decent acting was in Talladega Nights as the fag Frenchman Jean Girard.

  55. Never seen an SBC movie. Since my very first Neil Simon movie, 40 years ago, I discovered that I find Jewish “humour” boring, mindless and predictably neurotic. Life is just too short: there is grass to watch grow and paint to watch dry.

    (The real joke is that there are stupid goyim who pay money and waste time watching it.)

  56. @J.Ross

    Sascha Baron-Cohen is not representative of the Jewish people.

    But he is… literally representing them by working representationally in their most representative professions within their most representative industry (creating visual representations of their representative cultural representations) AND actually giving speeches representing their representative opinions to the most representative representative organization of their actual representatives.

  57. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dumbo

    When he’s not doing his juvenile humor schtick, Adam Sandler has a likeable screen presence. His low-key delivery can be pretty funny. He was good in Just Go With It and the remake of The Longest Yard. I think he’d be fairly good in serious roles too. My opinion, but I find him to be generally unobnoxious. On Cohen, I agree with you – he is an unfunny and obnoxious jerk.

  58. black sea says:
    @Gabe Ruth

    Ali G, Borat, Bruno, all of these characters could be the focus of amusing SNL skits. However, this kind of humor — for me anyway — doesn’t have enough narrative interest to sustain a film. Effectively, they’re just gags.

    Bruno appearing on Jerry Springer (or whatever) with his adopted black son O.J. is funny. An hour-and-a-half of Bruno, however, would wear thin. I say “would wear thin” because I’ve never actually watched any of his films. The You Tube clips I’ve seen are evidence enough that amusement would soon give way to waning curiosity, then boredom and indifference, and finally annoyance.

    Idiots ultimately aren’t that amusing.

  59. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hhsiii

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  60. @Curious About Something

    There is a real hatred for Mark Zuckerberg in the Jewish community that goes beyond criticism of Facebook. I suspect it is a visceral hatred of another Jew who has turned their back on the group and undermined several of their mechanisms for shaping discourse.

    What are you talking about?

  61. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    Reminds me of domestic Israeli politics. They call everyone and everything they don’t like a Nazi

    That sounds like a bad comedy movie.

  62. Lot says:
    @Mr McKenna

    They actually use the phrase “MSM” or men who have sex with men, not “gay.” There are people who say they aren’t gay but will admit to being MSMs.

    I’ve never seen good evidence that there are racial differences in homosexual orientation in the USA.

  63. @Jonathan Mason

    Baron Cohen made an excellent point in his speech, which was that these various social media sites are in fact publishers and ought to be held to the same standards.

    They’re publishers if they censor.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  64. anon[136] • Disclaimer says:

    Alec Berg

    That’s a great Jon Houseman name.

    FYI I don’t think he’s Jewish. There was a Curb episode where Larry’s lawyer is named Berg…

  65. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    It’s a really great thing Mason observed, which is that, here are the tech trusts, the filth of our day, illegally straddling the two distinct legal categories of publisher (responsible for content) and carrier (not responsible for content), and here’s S.B. Cohen blundering, in his pet fervor, like one of his characters, into an Elia Kazan “the camera is on” moment regarding their illegal category straddling.

  66. @Lot

    Well, of course you don’t think Cohen hates Austrians. What if a similar propagandist message would have “explained” to tens of millions of paying viewers that Jews are sick?

    I find it amazing that less than 80 years after the Biggest War, Americans, nominal winners, are as disposed to humiliation as the nominal losers.

    • Replies: @Anon
  67. @JohnnyD

    But having the trees planted in order to get them killed, feigning sympathy to dupe them and basking in their gratitude – it’s a pretty dishonorable way of serving your country.

    Consider Q-ships. Read the sinking of the U-27. Do you think it’d be possible to make a movie about the Q-Ship Baralong depicting its crew as heroes?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_U-27_(Germany)?wprov=sfti1

    • Replies: @Lot
  68. @Anonymous

    What the hell makes you think that Jews pushed #metoo? It started with an accusation against a Jewish democratic donor. Did Trump even get accused?

  69. @Michael Price

    Did Trump even get accused?

    Are you kidding?

    Trump was not only accused, he was obviously the raison d’être for the movement going viral. He had been elected president despite his “grab them by the pussy” quote. The left at the time was looking for any cudgel to bash Trump and if that meant a few of the good guys had to bashed, too, then that semblance of balance was just going to be the price for getting Trump’s scalp.

    It was instructive to see what Weinstein’s first reaction was to the allegations which stemmed from the #MeToo movement. He promised to donate more money to the anti-NRA cause and make an anti-Trump movie.

    “I am going to need a place to channel that anger so I’ve decided that I’m going to give the NRA my full attention. I hope Wayne LaPierre will enjoy his retirement party. I’m going to do it at the same place I had my Bar Mitzvah. I’m making a movie about our President, perhaps we can make it a joint retirement party.”

    That response seems bizarre, but Weinstein instinctually understood that his real problem was political rather than criminal. Unfortunately for him, the left was now more interested in using his example to go after the president. At some gut level, perhaps the former supporters of serial sex offender Bill Clinton and his steadfast wife Hillary believed that if they could turn this movement into a righteous cause, it would eventually burn up Trump’s presidency. But the only way to do that was to be free of hypocrisy. Hence, the Democratic victims.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  70. @Michael Price

    I mean, my God, man, the left had just finished supporting a Hillary Clinton candidacy in which she was strongly pushed by both her husband, a man accused of rape, and Weinstein, a man whose sexual reputation was an open secret in many large Hollywood circles for decades because of his numerous payouts to women.

    Hillary even said in a 2016 boilerplate campaign speech that all female victims should be believed when they allege sexual assault. Most in the mainstream media ignored the obvious hypocrisy of such a statement by a person married to Bill Clinton.

    But that was in 2016.

    By the next year, Donald “Grab them by the pussy” Trump was in the White House, and so things were different. Victims had to be sacrificed.

    There’s really no reason to believe the #MeToo would’ve taken off at all if Hillary had been elected.

  71. Lot says:
    @reiner Tor

    “ Read the sinking of the U-27. Do you think it’d be possible to make a movie about the Q-Ship Baralong depicting its crew as heroes?”

    Would the movie recount how three months prior a similar U-Boat killed 1,198 people on the Lusitania?

    Or the German respect for principles of neutrality in its invasion of Belgium?

    In any event, the percentage of events in modern war that would make for good movies is very low, and that doesn’t change the honor of the soldiers.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  72. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    “ Borat is from the pre-Wikipedia era, when the Internet was in its infancy.”

    2006?

    Antisemites: retards every single time.

    “ During this time, digging up someone’s ethnic background wasn’t feasible.”

    Takes a lot of digging to figure out the ethnicity of a entertainment industry guy named “Cohen”, huh?

    And the 2006 version of his Wikipedia buries the fact he’s Jewish all the way in the first sentence of the *second* paragraph. Why not the first sentence of the first paragraph?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sacha_Baron_Cohen&oldid=76623126

    • Replies: @Ian M.
  73. duncsbaby says:
    @TK421

    Where’s the gay whiskey when we didn’t need him?

  74. @Lot

    Would the movie recount how three months prior a similar U-Boat killed 1,198 people on the Lusitania?

    Yes, they could recount how the British used 1,198 people (among them 128 American citizens) as human shields to protect their cargo of ammunition.

    But arguing about ww1 history was not my point. My point is that, even though hundreds of movies have been made about the heroic exploits of Britons and Americans fighting Germany in the Great War, not one of them was celebrating Q-ships, because it was not an aspect of the Allied war effort which they wanted to advertise to the world.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Lot
  75. @anon

    I once chatted up a pretty young colleague; blue-eyes, blonde, with a germanic name, but told me she her family was Kazakh. Digging a little deeper, her father’s family was one of the Volga Deutsch, who were encouraged to settle in Russia under Catherine the Great, and were later exiled to Kazakhstan during WW2 to prevent collaboration with the invading Germans. Her mother came from an ethnic Russian family internally exiled to Kazakhstan for political reasons. I’ve actually run into more than a few non-Chinese-looking, non-Muslim people who call themselves Kazakh without any sense of irony.

  76. @John Gruskos

    There is a a big problem in our country, and the problem is censorship.

    Is there some action we can take, so that our country can be free?

    The obvious answer is more censorship. If people won’t speak or express themselves correctly, the only way to save free speech is less speech. Truth will set us free, provided it is the official truth.

  77. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    Jeremy Corbyn pronounces Jeffrey Epstein as “Epshtine,” Jewish comedian notices:

  78. Ian Smith says:
    @JohnnyD

    I will say this about The Spy: it managed to be pro-Israel without demonizing Arabs. But getting the goyim to be pro-Israel without being hostile to Muslim immigrants is the tightrope that Jews are trying to walk.

    • Replies: @Bugg
  79. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    Americans like to have foreigners talk about us. It’s nice if they’re complimentary, like Tocqueville, but even if they’re just rude, like Dickens, that’s okay too.

    (To be fair, Dickens was a lot more acute than this donkey.)

  80. ANOTHER unsolvable contradiction for you dolts.

    SBC is an unspeakably vile piece of shit period.

    You should hate him because he is part and parcel of the undermining of our traditional Western culture and civilization.

    But you like him because he is occasionally politically incorrect.

    You losers.

    Here’s a solution. SBC is a shit. A shit is a shit. Period. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @SFG
  81. @Hail

    Another highlight from Sacha Baron Cohen’s ADL speech.

    Perhaps this is just a trial run for an upcoming speech before the ACLU. Seems like they are due for a name correction to the Anti Civil Liberties Union. Sacha will no doubt be happy to help out.

    • Replies: @anon
  82. @Michael Price

    What the hell makes you think that Jews pushed #metoo?

    They’re the only ones in a position to push anything.

  83. @Jonathan Mason

    Really now, are you just trying to trigger Wally? Careful what you (unwittingly) ask for.

  84. dvorak says:

    Americans are flummoxed by the British version of anything. The British Invasion was blue-eyed soul where the White guys were fully mimicking Black American accents. We didn’t notice it because they were British.

    Same with SBC and his ethnic humor.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @Bugg
  85. Anonymous[716] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump pwned Sasha in their meeting that was supposed to be an Ali G ambush of Trump.

    The video is posted on this thread at comment #60. WATCH THAT VIDEO.

    Cohen is an axe-grinder who never forgets and being bested here by Super Goy Trump will stay with him for the rest of his life. Cohen knew Trump was formidable and then he had to watch as Trump marched all the way to Whitehouse though every powerful Jew in the media tried to stop it.

    This is the main source of Sasha’s modern angrier persona.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @SFG
  86. @dvorak

    “the White guys were fully mimicking Black American accents”

    Uh, I can do a black accent as well as any white (or black for that matter). I grew up attending schools which had significant percentages of black students and learned as a young kid. You’ve got to be freaking deluded to believe that the Beatles sound anything like blacks.

    Blacks are most entertaining when they go off on each other. Their voices rise two octaves and with even the men shrieking in soprano there is no end to the amazing poo they will fling at each other. Nothing is off limits. They love to put one another down for being too poor or too low class. And the entire class joins in hooting and pounding their knuckles on the ground. Such merriment provides a welcome break from the monotony of a day in the classroom.

    • Replies: @Lot
  87. Lot says:
    @reiner Tor

    Again, very little of modern war is glorious and made for compelling movies.

    I don’t think there is anything the least bit dishonorable about using deception and reconning behind enemy lines to choose targets.

    And these targets were soldiers who used their high ground to take potshots and terrorize the unarmed Israeli farmers below them. Both sides did this, and it was the same with Israel and Egypt before the 67 war. But Israel was more crowded and vulnerable with Syria having the high ground in Golan and Egypt having a bunch of desert on its side.

    As for the British executing a dozen U Boat sailers 3 months after a U Boat killed 1198 people on a civilian ocean liner and a year after the completely aggressive invasion of Belgium, that’s entirely the fault of the Kaiser, not the British.

    While the USA should have stayed out of WWI, the justice of our side and the British is well illustrated by the fact that Germany, Austria, and the Ottomans all had their governments overthrown and military mutinies at the end of the war.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  88. Lot says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Eric Burdon got famous singing mostly black (or black influenced Southern) American standards. And he had a crazy baritone for a skinny young guy. But even he didn’t sing anything like a black accent.

  89. This may be irrelevant, but I can’t stand that guy, OK? (Sacha Baron Whatever….asshole)

    (Visceral responses are nature’s way of protecting you, “OK?”)

    BTW, a Romanian friend told me the village “Borat” came from in the movie was a Gypsy village near where he came from. He recognized it. He was an American banker, and his wife was an American doctor. If Sacha has his way, there will be many such villages right here in America — including in Steve’s neighborhood.

    The street habitations in California are the precursors to this.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  90. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    Agree on Trump.

    Andy Rooney in his 80s got the better of “Ali G” too.

  91. SFG says:
    @obwandiyag

    I liked him before he got political. And he actually used to mock the left too back then.

  92. SFG says:
    @Anonymous

    More likely he’s an entertainment guy and knows the correct opinions to take. Think about how much footage from people who didn’t take the bait they would have to throw out. Trump’s not the only one who bested him.

    Besides, ‘Super Goy’ is a funny appellation for a guy from NYC with Jewish grandkids.

  93. Bugg says:
    @Ian Smith

    It wasn’t a very flattering portrait of Syrian Arabs. They are shown as universally corrupt and drunk. The leader of the country is seen allowing his wife to screw around in front of him. Suspect on firsthand experience with at least Turks and Egyptians, for some Muslims the prohibition on booze is something they worry about only occasionally. And while they downplayed it, that his former friends were merely interrogated when he was found out, fair bet many of them were tortured to death, including his would be fiancee. Fair to note the Mossad is portrayed as too greedy . Had many chances to pull him out and stage his death, and they instead pushed it to what was an inevitable conclusion.

    Odd in all his Borat/Bruno and other iterations of mocking of Americans(which I found often funny), the likes of Woody Allen or Harvey Weinstein or anyone like them never gets that treatment. Gee…

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
  94. Bugg says:
    @dvorak

    Nothing in music is completely original. And while a lot of British Invasion acts borrowed(or in the case of Jimmy Page, stole) from American blues, they were better musicians and improved upon it. Eric Clapton has spent his career practically apologizing for that, and there really isn’t any reason to do so. And even in the case of Page, what he produced was way better than the source material.

    • Replies: @dvorak
  95. Rapparee says:

    Throw a Tyrolean hat on SBC in the photo from Twitter, and he’s Chico Marx.

  96. anon[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laugh Track

    Seems like they are due for a name correction to the Anti Civil Liberties Union.

    “Anti Christian Litigation Unit” has been a good fit for decades.

    Sacha will no doubt be happy to help out.

    Either way he’d be happy to help out.

  97. Wilkey says:
    @Lot

    People say he has his moments in a few of his movies, but I’ve seen enough I am not risking it.

    Anything he does with Drew Barrymore is worth watching. I’m not sure why, because I’m not a fan of either of them separately, but they have great chemistry together. They’re the Lennon & McCartney of comedies.

  98. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Cohen’s larping as a hypocritical Jew is most brilliant.

  99. @Altai

    Speaking of “getting the joke”, how’s this?

    Baron-Cohen, speaking to the ADL, says Russia interfered in, quote, “our” election but is British, not American…

  100. Ian Smith says:
    @Bugg

    “It wasn’t a very flattering portrait of Syrian Arabs.”

    Are you kidding? The portrayal of Syrians drinking whiskey, dressing like the Kennedys, and listening to Elvis made me nostalgic! They look like positively delightful company compared to the Salafi hicks we deal with now.

  101. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot

    While the USA should have stayed out of WWI, the justice of our side and the British is well illustrated by the fact that Germany, Austria, and the Ottomans all had their governments overthrown and military mutinies at the end of the war.

    Nonsense. A ridiculous assertion.

    And France had a military mutiny DURING the war.

  102. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    There is a track record of comedy bits about gay/gayish German, I think owing to the fruitful contrast of gay stereotypes with irony-deficient German stereotypes. Life imitates stereotype, of course, since being a fussily-groomed Teutonic homo male is probably a good way to insinuate yourself deep in showbiz glitterati, traditionally

  103. eggplant says:
    @Anonymous

    “most Jews do not realize the gig is up.”

    The gig will only be up when Weinstein can be accurately described as a “jewish impresario” and Epstein can be accurately described as a “jewish financier”.

  104. @Lot

    I agree that SBC’s humor is on the mean side. Probably Bruno and Borat the least so, as they are dumb but well meaning.

    Duh. Of course you don’t see (or choose not to see) the toxic semitism and ignorant, hate-filled jewish supremacism that suffuses Cohen’s every pathetic attempt at “humor.”

    Fish don’t know that water exists.

  105. @Buzz Mohawk

    In case you’re wondering why I agreed with my own comment there, I was trying to be funny, because that comment is one I posted months ago under another story. Somehow it reappeared here, under my name, but I didn’t post it this time. So, I decided to agree with myself and just assume this is an instance of time travel. Besides, the comment is still relevant. Hello to myself or to whoever is/was me.

  106. Ian M. says:
    @Lot

    Takes a lot of digging to figure out the ethnicity of a entertainment industry guy named “Cohen”, huh?

    Seriously. Sometimes it seems as if these Jew-obsessives must have been so clueless as adolescents so as not even to have had the most minimal basic awareness of simple facts about Jews or to have had even the slightest inkling of their disproportionate influence, so that when they finally are made aware of the plain-as-day fact about disproportionate Jewish influence, rather than coming to the obvious conclusion, they lose their minds.

  107. Ian M. says:
    @Curious About Something

    See The Social Network, which was something of a hatchet job on Zuckerberg (and which portrayed the WASP-ish Winklevoss twins as sympathetic victims).

  108. J.Ross says:

    ADL following up SBC speech with a literal blacklist, which they demand all media companies implement. Gosh, why don’t people like them?
    https://www.adl.org/blog/following-sacha-baron-cohens-speech-here-is-adls-short-list-of-social-media-accounts-that

  109. dvorak says:
    @Bugg

    My contention is simply that White boys (like Mick Jagger) using Black voices was a factor in the British Invasion. Prior to this, there was an audible color line in American rock music. Elvis’ Southern accent and dance moves played with that color line but did not cross it.

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