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The Ryder Cup golf tournament between 12 top U.S. golfers and 12 top European golfers is being held an hour north of Milwaukee at Whistling Straits, an extraordinary Pete Dye golf course paid for by the Kohler faucet barons on two miles of bluff above Lake Michigan.

The goal was to build Ballybunion, the wild links on the west coast of Ireland in the Midwest. There actually aren’t sand dunes in Wisconsin because the prevailing wind is from the west (inland), so the sand instead piles up in huge dunes on the opposite shore in Michigan.

But that wasn’t going to stop golf architect Dye, who got an unlimited budget from Herb Kohler and famously exceeded it.

I don’t really like the aesthetics. Dye got carried away and built about 500 sand traps, which is a little much. But, if you are hitting the ball well and the wind isn’t howling, it’s a very fun course to play. If you start going left or right, though, it can be a long day, unless you are Jordan Spieth. This shot is on the part 3 17th, which features Dye’s extreme sharp-edged verticality.

I wrote up the golf course when it was new in 1999, which I’ll include below the fold;

In evaluating anything as monumental as Whistling Straits, there are two obvious approaches. The first is simple, natural enthusiasm: “It’s great and you owe it to yourself to play it.” The trendier alternative is Attitude: “An Irish links course that charges \$10 a hole and takes 5.5 hours to play? Get real!” Instead, I’d like to rather dispassionately outline the trade-offs faced by Pete Dye and the choices he made.

Considering how much golfers love to play next to Big Water, the shorelines of America’s Great Lakes have been curiously underexploited for golf courses. This is especially true on the West Coast of the state of Michigan, where the prevailing winds have pushed up a thin but impressive strip of sand dunes running for hundreds of miles. Long ago Alister McKenzie built Crystal Downs in mature, partially forested linksland, but since then, almost nobody else grasped the opportunity … until the late 1990’s when several courses have appeared alongside Lake Michigan. Most notable are the two mega-projects, Arthur Hills’ Bay Harbor in Michigan and Pete Dye’s Whistling Straits in Wisconsin, an hour’s drive north of Milwaukee. Oddly, it’s the Wisconsin course, where there are almost no natural dunes, that is the pure, even over-the-top Irish-style links.

hole_08.jpgAfter the success of their Blackwolf Run courses, bathroom fixture baron Herb Kohler gave Pete Dye 2 miles of Lake Michigan bluff and a huge budget to, in effect, reproduce Ballybunion. (Of equal importance, the Kohlers used their enormous political capital — three Kohlers have been Governors of Wisconsin — to keep environmentalists from derailing the project.)

The site is fairly simple to describe. It’s a strip of exactly two miles of Lake Michigan shoreline, almost linear, with just a slight convex curve. There are no Pebble Beach-style inlets, peninsulas or the like that would allow shots to be hit over a corner of the lake. The lake plays solely as a lateral hazard. There is only one natural feature besides the lake, a small stream that carves a deep ravine that runs perpendicular to the shoreline in the center of the property.

Upon this rather blank slate, Dye has imposed a formal, highly symmetrical routing plan. He has converted the lake bluff into two parallel tiers of holes: a lakeside tier about 30 vertical feet above the water, and the more inland tier about 60 feet up. From almost all 14 holes on the two lakeside tiers, you enjoy panoramic views of the Lake. The clubhouse is sited 600 yards inland, in the center. Both nines consist of narrow figure 8 loops, with the front nine south of the clubhouse, and the back nine north. Both nines begin with a hole running from the clubhouse toward the lake, followed by one long hole along the upper lakeside tier. Then you are granted two holes down along the lakeside. Here each nine turns back toward the clubhouse with two holes on the upper tier. Each nine then climaxes with two more holes down by the lake, and then concludes with par 4’s heading back inland to the clubhouse. Since Dye puts all the par 3’s on the lower tier, you get 8 holes right along the lake, 6 holes on the upper vista tier, and 4 holes basically perpendicular to the lake.

There is probably no more perfect routing conceivable (unless they chose to put the clubhouse on the bluff, allowing #18 to finish alongside the lake), which is why Dye used it for both nines. This layout has huge advantages over those found on most linksland courses in the British Isles, where you often can barely see the water at all during your round, much less have greens clinging to precipices over the water.

The problem, though, is that perfection tends to be the enemy of charm. Only on the 4 inland holes running to and from the clubhouse, where the meandering creek comes into play, is there a sense of the architect being forced to confront nature’s idiosyncrasies and devise novel solutions. For example, when they finally get some grass to grow on #18, it will be one of the wildest short par 5’s in the country. (Unfortunately, it’s called a par 4, even though to have a shot at getting home in two requires a 264 yard carry from the black tees.) On almost all the lakeside holes, though, you sense the architect imposing his will upon the property. There are no awkward but unusual terrain features that Dye must overcome. In fact, so many holes consist of the same ideal elements (e.g., greens set at 45 degree angles with the back left or right pin positions hanging out over perdition) that some of the individual holes alongside the lake aren’t really that memorable.

Although Ballybunion is probably the primary inspiration, Whistling Straits doesn’t really look that much like Ballybunion, for two related reasons. First, there is an enormous amount of exposed sand at Whistling Straits: I counted 320 waste bunkers on the scorecard hole maps, and that is almost certainly an underestimate. At Ballybunion Old, in contrast, bunkers are almost an afterthought, as seen on great bunkerless holes like #11 and #6. Second, Ballybunion is dominated by a relatively small number of big (even huge) dunes: think of the 50′ high parallel dunes that run for 300 yards on either side of the 16th fairway, or the 80′ foot dune that dominates #17. Most of the excitement of Ballybunion comes from the course having to adapt itself to this rugged landscape. In contrast, Dye has created an infinite number of small to fairly large-size dune shapes (covering almost the entire property, at no doubt prodigious expense), that are conveniently arrayed to serve his ideal holes. Once again, it’s clear that here the land is the servant of the architect, not the other way around. I don’t think it had to be that way. I hear that Mike Strantz at Royal New Kent built fairly large duneshapes that make it look as if he laid the course out over the land rather than constructed the land.

The extraordinary complexity of the holes is less reminiscent of Ballybunion than of St. Andrews or the National Golf Links. Dye has wisely built wide fairways and big greens, which give you the room to try strategies (as opposed to, say, Olympic, where you have to simply thread the needle over and over again). However, the penalties for missing the fairways can be so severe (while you almost never lose your ball, you can often wish you had as you might take 2 or 3 strokes to hack your way out of trouble), that I just aimed for the center of the fairways. Requiring double-bagging caddies for every player other than singles is a big help, but ideally you’d want your own caddy so you could get constant advice. Even more ideally, you’d play the course over and over, under different wind conditions, until you understood it, but the cost and remote location make it likely that for most players it will be a once in a lifetime treat.

Dye’s overwhelming waste-bunkering is, in fact, far more reminiscent of Pine Valley than Ballybunion, but at Pine Valley the aesthetic appeal is the contrast between the horrendous rough and the velvet fairways. At Whistling Straits, however, the fescue fairways are also rather scruffy (at least so far, during this semi-drought summer). While they don’t look that great, they play like true links fairways, hard and fast with plenty of roll. Hopefully, Whistling Straits will introduce more American golfers to the idea that fairways don’t have to be perfect. Further, I hope it helps Americans realize that luck is a fun part of the game. You get lots of bad lies and bad bounces here, but also lots of good bounces. Mr. Kohler hopes to attract a major tournament (although the course would be a great British Open venue, it’s a little hard to imagine it as a US Open course), or the Ryder Cup (where it would continue the trend of America choosing European-style links courses and Europe choosing American-style parkland tracks). Still, I wonder whether pros would put up with the high degree of luck inherent in the course. And, I wonder whether the rough is simply too fragile, like Pine Valley’s, to accommodate huge crowds. Right now, it’s fairly sparse, but it may grow thicker and durable in future years.

From the Black tees, the course measures 7,288 yards, but plays a little shorter due to the excellent roll on the hard turf. Dye has constructed even more extreme tees (adding up to over 7,600 yards) for the pros to play from. Some of these are amusingly placed down the cliff-face near the water, so that the pros would have to play a blind tee shot to fairways above their heads. While there is some talk about this being the hardest course in America, I don’t think it’s particularly overwhelming, unless the wind is blowing hard. (Playing from the blacks, a scratch player in my group had a 4 foot putt on #13 to go 2 under par — but he missed it and ended with a 77 as the wind came up). With mild wind conditions, it’s quite playable. Keep in mind, though, that it’s a very long walk, and that if you start hitting shots that end up on cliffs 50 feet below the fairway, it can be exhausting. The management’s goal is to get you around in 5 hours, but it took my group about 5 hours and 40 minutes. The extra time was largely due to delays on the first few holes, probably caused by golfers being stunned by the course and how much different it plays. By the back nine, the pace picks up as players get into the swing of things. Overall, every one in my group played well above their average — this may have been just luck, or it may be evidence that the course is conducive to getting into a good flow.

While most of the course is ideal, if a little synthetic, there are one and a half really bad holes: #5 and the first half of #6, which look as if Dye had finally exhausted his colossal dunescaping budget. These move farther inland than the other upper tier holes, and run through dead flat land, with only the kind of perfunctory mounding you find on too many pseudo-Scottish style American courses from the 1980’s. Here Dye introduces a novel hazard: tree stumps. From the tee on #6 you are supposed to carry a flat 200 yard wide field full of tree stumps. While Dye has been the most influential architect of the last third of the 20th Century, I can only hope that other architects do not rush to imitate this particular design breakthrough. Number 5 is a Z-shaped double dogleg par 5, as bad as most similar holes, with long, moat-like water hazards on both sides of the fairway (there’s nothing so links-like as totally artificial-looking water hazards).

So, nothing’s perfect, but Whistling Straits comes close, maybe even too close.

 
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  1. D. K. says:

    Whistling Straits considered economizing, by installing American Standard toilets in the clubhouse; but, in the end, Kohler heads prevailed.

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
    • LOL: Pincher Martin, FPD72
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  2. Attention Steve! Golfocaust alert. Have at it:

    In The Atlantic, some guy named Patrick Wyman (historian and MMA enthusiast) comes out full tilt against White American kulaks, er, “gentry”. Excerpts under the MORE tag.

    The tweet for posterity:

    Michael Brendan [email protected]

    This is the beginning of the argument. It will end with “multinational corporations good.”

    Patrick [email protected]_Wyman

    Lmao nah man it’s mostly just that these folks are largely loathesome and undeserving

    5:37 PM · Sep 23, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone

    My internet sleuthing was inconclusive, so I’ll ask the audience. Physiognomy/background check: Is Patrick Wyman of the Tribe?

    This Jewish MMA guy (Ben Kohn) seems to think so:

    IDEAS

    American Gentry

    The jet-setting cosmopolitans of popular imagination exist, but they are far outnumbered by a less exalted and less discussed elite group, one that sits at the pinnacle of America’s local hierarchies.

    By Patrick Wyman

    SEPTEMBER 23, 2021

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/trump-american-gentry-wyman-elites/620151

    [MORE]
    [bold emphasis added]

    Trump was courting the support of the American gentry, the salt-of-the-earth millionaires who see themselves as local leaders in business and politics, the unappreciated backbone of a once-great nation.

    These elites’ wealth derives not from their salary—this is what separates them from even extremely prosperous members of the professional-managerial class, such as doctors and lawyers—but from their ownership of assets. Those assets vary depending on where in the country we’re talking about; they could be a bunch of McDonald’s franchises in Jackson, Mississippi; a beef-processing plant in Lubbock, Texas; a construction company in Billings, Montana; commercial properties in Portland, Maine; or a car dealership in western North Carolina.

    When we talk about inequality, we skew our perspective by looking at the most visible manifestations of it: penthouses in New York, mansions in Beverly Hills, the lavish wastefulness of hedge-fund billionaires or a misbehaving celebrity. But that’s not who most of the United States’ wealthy elite really are. They own \$2 million houses on golf courses outside Orlando, Florida, and a condo in the Bahamas, not an architecturally designed oceanfront villa in Miami. Those billionaires (and their excesses) exist, but they’re not nearly as common as a less exalted category of the rich that’s no less structurally formative to our economy and society.

    An enormous number of organizations and institutions are dedicated to advancing the interests of this gentry class: chambers of commerce, exclusive country clubs and housing developments, the American Society of Concrete Contractors, and fruit growers’ associations, just to name a small cross section. Through these organizations and their intimate ties to local and state politics, the gentry class can and usually does wield significant power to shape society to its liking. It’s easy to focus on the massive political spending of a Sheldon Adelson or Michael Bloomberg; it’s harder, but no less important, to imagine what kind of deals about water rights or local zoning ordinances are being struck across the U.S. on the eighth green of the local country club.

    Ignore for a moment, billionaire Jews—focus instead on local country club machinations!

    But far more members of the gentry class are born into it. They inherit assets, whether those are car dealerships, apple orchards, or construction companies, and manage to avoid screwing things up. Managers run their companies, lawyers look over their contracts, accountants oversee their finances, but they’re the owners, whether or not they’ve done a single thing of their own volition to accumulate those assets. This is broadly true of gentry classes: They’re hereditary. Large amounts of property of any kind form a durable base for generational wealth, whatever specific shape it might take.

    Forget the skyscrapers and opulent country mansions, the elite family dynamics of Succession and the antics of the Kardashians and Kardashian-adjacent; look instead to the far more numerous multimillion-dollar planned golf-course communities and their controlling homeowners’ associations. Think about the informal property-development deals struck between sweating local grandees at the country-club bar in Odessa, Texas, or Knoxville, Tennessee.

    Wyman’s article was “adapted” from his original Substack version, in which he concludes:

    Gentry classes are generally hereditary. The one I’ve laid out in the United States certainly is, though it’s not entirely closed to new blood. Large amounts of property of any kind form a pretty durable base for generational wealth, whatever specific shape it might take.

    Equating wealth, especially generational wealth, with virtue and ability is a deeply American pathology. This country loves to believe that people get what they deserve, despite the abundant evidence to the contrary. Nowhere is this more obviously untrue than with our gentry class.

    So if some people have nice things they “don’t deserve”, what’s the remedy? Wyman doesn’t go into specifics here, be he does helpfully identify modern kulaks, er, “gentry”.

    They stand at the apex of the social order throughout huge swathes of the country, and shape our economic and political world thanks to their resources and comparatively large numbers, yet they’re practically invisible in our popular understanding of these things.

    Power resides in group photos of half-soused overweight men in ill-fitting polo shirts, in gated communities and local philanthropic boards. You’ll rarely, if ever, see these things on CNN or in the New York Times, but they’re no less essential to understanding how and why our society works the way it does.

  3. There actually aren’t sand dunes in Wisconsin because the prevailing wind is from the west (inland)

    Yes there are, particularly in Door County, which divides the Lake from Green Bay. Winds often come down from Superior, with poor excuses for mountains to block them. (Neither Mount Arvon nor Timms Hill, the highest points in Michigan and Wisconsin respectively, reach 2,000 ft.)

    These dunes aren’t to Michigan’s scale, but they exist. Indiana is just as poorly positioned for such terraforming, but a national park there has dunes known to swallow children.

    A fun beach to visit is Sand Dunes Beach on Washington Island. It’s quite modest as these things go, but it’s only five miles from the most opposite sort of beach you can imagine– Schoolhouse Beach, with no sand at all. It’s one of maybe a dozen in the world lined with perfectly smooth stones.

    (But don’t take any. They impose a \$250 fine. Maybe even for each rock.)

    Oh, there is a golf course on the island, but it’s in the interior. No view of the lake. Thorstein Veblen fans might like to visit his cottage, where he spent many summers studying Icelandic.

  4. Mr. Anon says:

    Golf ………………….. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  5. Mr. Anon says:
    @D. K.

    Whistling Straits considered economizing, by installing American Standard toilets in the clubhouse; but, in the end, Kohler heads prevailed.

    If you’re ever buying a toilet, buy a Gerber. Reliable as Hell. You can flush a basketball down one and it wouldn’t clog.

  6. Dye, who got an unlimited budget from Herb Kohler and famously exceeded it.

    The blogger has pointed out that the Robert F. Kennedy Community Schools, located on 23 acres in LA, is this country’s most expensive, public school. It cost \$578M to build (2019).

    RFKCS (dis-) serves ~4,200 kids. Using a conservatively estimated, student:teacher ratio of 35:1 (ridiculously high yet accurate), it employs ~120 credentialed teachers (babysitters) and 240 non-teaching staffers.

    That’s a cost of about \$1.6M per (adult) hole.

  7. Holy cow. Every once in a while Steve goes full autistic and drops an absolute beast of a post on us. And about… a golf course.

  8. Mike Tre says:

    Sand traps are great as it allows Steve to bury his head in one. Meanwhile, the wake of the boomer flu hysteria continues to wreak havoc on young people. Kids are still wearing masks in school, and varsity football games are being cancelled, Homecoming dances as a bizarre and stunted version of anti social social distancing. Whole HS sports teams are being “quarantined.” But as long as old men get to play golf, it’s fine.

  9. TIL Herb Kohler and Herb Kohl are different people.

  10. Daniel H says:

    …..an extraordinary Pete Dye golf course paid for by the Kohler faucet barons on two miles of bluff above Lake Michigan.

    A well earned fortune.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  11. dearieme says:

    Do the crowds chant “USA! USA! USA!” or “Feck Joe Bidun”?

    • Replies: @LP5
  12. @Daniel H

    We stayed one night at the American Club in Kohler, WI and it had amazing bathroom fixtures.

    So, yeah, the Kohlers are really good at what they do.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Steve-O
  13. They should put some removable disc golf baskets in there. 🙂

  14. J.Ross says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He looks like a younger, unshrunken Robert Reich. Ideology should always be the focus, instead of physiognomy, naming, or organizational affiliation/synagogue attendance, but here it’s pretty academic.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  15. Barnard says:

    The Americans are in a very strong position to win this Ryder Cup. Dustin Johnson looks like he is on his way to being a dominate Ryder Cup performer unlike Phil and Tiger who both had career losing records.

  16. So, I learned a couple things from this. First, people apparently buy tickets to particular holes at golf tournaments. (Buying a ticket to follow the golfers around kind-of makes sense.) And I learned that even those very strange people are given to the “U-S-A! U-S-A!” chant that makes us all look like poo-flinging retards.

  17. LP5 says:
    @dearieme

    Those crowds were chanting for the next great golf course.

    [MORE]

    Ballysacky

  18. Is “sand trap” entirely synonymous with “bunker”? This blog post uses both terms.

    Many of my friends are avid golfers, though I am not. On those occasions when I accompany them and attempt to play, I hear them continuously complaining that their ball has just missed the green and landed in a sand trap. But on the four days per year that I watch golf on television (the Sundays of the majors), I never hear that phrase. Rather, Jim Nantz or Dan Hicks are often heard saying things like “Koepka’s ball has found another bunker.” Why is that?

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  19. TWS says:

    Isn’t this the open where the kid from Harry Potter dropped from heart trouble?

    All the pro-covid news fit to blog about?

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
  20. usNthem says:

    Speith’s shot will forever be one of the iconic plays in Ryder Cup history. If Thomas had made the putt, they’d probably have placed a granite plaque to commemorate the event.

  21. Interestingly, this is the only sporting event between Britain and America that both sides care about. Thus we get the full-on cultural abuse that Brits usually reserve for Germans and French.

    The sound of happy, cheering Americans absolutely enrages them, and they take to Twitter to trash the “boorish Septics” who violate every known rule on sportsmanship, rules that Cuck Islanders follow to a T, as we all know.

    They may lose this weekend, but there’s good news: fluoride is coming to their home prefectures, and maybe their teeth will no longer look like Steve McQueen’s in Papillon.

  22. JMcG says:

    I’ve golfed four times in my life. I really enjoy Steve’s golf posts though. The comment threads often veer off in pleasantly surprising directions. And, Lord knows we need a break sometimes. That video of Jordan Spieth chipping out of that ridiculous lie is very much analogous to what we are up against. And he succeeded.

  23. There are lots of fancy country clubs around Cleveland left over from when it was a great city, but none of them were built on the lake shore. In fact, not much of interest is built on the lake shore, I think because the shore there erodes very rapidly. The lakeside development just north of downtown is inside a breakwater.

    But wouldn’t it be interesting to build a golf course where erosion was naturally a part of the layout? “I played Erie Pines three years ago, back when the fairway on 6 was more of a dogleg, but now it’s a straightaway hemmed in by those maples.” “14 used to be a boring hole, but last winter a section collapsed and now you have to drive over a ravine.” The possibilities are endless and unpredictable.

  24. Makes me wonder which creations of old America will survive in the coming transformation of the country into Brazil of the north.

    Will Whistling Straits be deemed worthy of the cost by future mixed blood American elites? The Goths kept many parts of Roman society when they took over but left others to rot either due to lack of interest or inability to maintain.

    My guess is that Whistling Straits won’t survive the purge but who knows.

  25. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s almost as though they hate our people and want us brought to our knees.

    Nah, Steve assures me that Citizenism is going to start working real soon and everyone will show the same loyalty to strangers with a piece of paper saying American citizen on it as they do to their extended family.

    Nothing to worry about.

  26. Boomers talking about golf need to be locked up in Gitmo.

  27. That shot by Spieth is one for the ages.

  28. The Haitians and Nigerians will love it.

  29. But but but. . . . All good and well and fine. But what does this have to do with proving the inferiority of Afro-Americans?

  30. Muggles says:
    @Mike Tre

    Sand traps are great as it allows Steve to bury his head in one.

    Yes, in contrast to your own heroic work. Which consists of posting your complaints here about why iSteve doesn’t exactly mirror your own personal gripes and observations.

    I’m sure Mr. Unz is anxiously awaiting the “Mike Tre” blog.

    I know I am.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  31. The South was always going to have some “issues”, given our history.

    The Midwest however is naturally white people country, and while it’s great attraction to my ancestors was “farmland” it has some nice–not striking, but pleasant–patches of terrain as well.

    The downside is of course the climate. (My dad would quip about the Iowa winters of his youth–“not a terrible lot to recommend it”–down to his last few days.) Milwaukee is quite a bit colder in the winter (and warmer in the summer, more continental), than say Dusseldorf, which is 8 degrees further north. (Milwaukee is at 43 degrees.) Even here in Seattle i’m a degree or so south of Munich. Munich, Paris, Vienna are all at 48 something– more or less at the latitude of the top of the US (49th ||), but the Gulf Stream keeps Western Europe pretty temperate.

    It’s a shame that the US got involved in the utter insanity of the Great War, which in turn helped kick off the Great Migration. The Midwest isn’t a great place for blacks to live. (The ones capable with choices tend to reverse migrate.) Nor a great place for Mexicans to live. Yet … Chicago’s now full of Mexicans too.

    And of course, the core problem a lot of cooperative, community oriented good-thought-thinking Germanic types living in their little slice of Germanic nice, thinking officially approved thoughts who refuse to wake the hell up.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  32. As an avid life-long golfer (Vermont born) I am sick to death of the fawning over link courses.

    Most of them look crummy and they are not a joy to play because “that is the way golf was meant to be played.”

    OK, then let’s have March Madness played with peach baskets nailed to the wall.

    They are sheep pastures with little grass, crummy greens that are SLOW and something called gorse – which sounds as though it should be served in a pub.

    IF these crummy courses were really the way golf was meant to be played, then why do so many European born multimillionaire golfers live and play in America when they could afford to live near one of the crummy wastelands where the British Open (NOT THE OPEN) is played every year.

    The worst mistake Arnold Palmer made was to help make that tournament popular.

  33. @Steve Sailer

    Hey Steve, you ever play or walk Augusta? You missed another calling, Golf writer. I rarely see write-ups in the Golf rags or trade journals with such detail. Having watched the Cup coverage today, you clarified several things related to the sand and lake.

    With the exception of Fianau, the entire Ryder Cup field is White. With no exceptions, the woke commercials are black, obese and mostly women. The Michelob commercials are change-the-channel mandatory, even with the split screen. The black women in those are so obese they could hardly walk, you can tell. Is that a Ryder Cup thing, or should we expect this on Tour, which has been remarkably free of such repulsive sludge so far?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Sick 'n Tired
  34. Steve did you say verticality?

    You are ready for broadcasting booth prime time bru

  35. SafeNow says:

    5 hours is too long. 12 holes seems about right. But much better is the 18-hole short course near me, which I used to play, walking, in about 3 hours. It was short, but challenging; in fact, there is a lake on the course they named after me due to my hitting so many in there. I think if you polled recreational golfers they would secretly agree with me but would be afraid to say it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Ganderson
  36. @I, Libertine

    The Difference Between a Sand Trap & Bunker

    https://www.sportsrec.com/difference-between-sand-trap-bunker-12015304.html

    “The most significant difference between a sand trap and a bunker is in its design. A sand trap is a man-made pit on the course that is then filled with sand. A bunker is also a depression on the course (either natural or man made), but it doesn’t always have to be filled with sand. It could be filled with pine needles, long grass, dirt, gravel, sand or many other things. Because of this, bunkers are also known as (unless filled with sand) waste areas or waste bunkers.”

  37. @Bragadocious

    Classless British sports fans just booed the Ukrainian national anthem before undersized Usyk beat the brakes off their champion

    • Agree: Bragadocious
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  38. @Bragadocious

    rules that Cuck Islanders follow to a T, as we all know.

    They may lose this weekend, but there’s good news: fluoride is coming to their home prefectures

    Who’s calling whom the cuck?

    To his dentist, no less:

    [MORE]

  39. @AnotherDad

    (Milwaukee is at 43 degrees.) Even here in Seattle I’m a degree or so south of Munich[‘s].

    And four north of Toronto’s latitude, which is about the same as Milwaukee’s.

  40. @J.Ross

    Ideology should always be the focus, instead of physiognomy, naming, or organizational affiliation/synagogue attendance, but here it’s pretty academic.

    The hostile ideology (of the article) is what got my attention, but your “instead of” is a false dichotomy from an HBD perspective: physiognomy, “naming” (i.e. biological taxonomy), and “affiliation”, etc. of the author is important for cumulative and qualitative noticing, not least because it often points to (often unstated) identitarian motivation on the part of belligerent. (You may be familiar with the counter-Semitic tag EST, which stands for Every Single Time.)

    In the case of the Atlantic piece, assuming Wyman is a Jew, we have Wyman advocating for White “gentry” dispossession; said article (Substack version) subject of “American gentry” cited and modified as “GOP gentry” previously in The Atlantic (ctrl-f “Wyman”) by Jew David Brooks, in a publication run by Jew Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, I’m not saying all Jews are like them (just like not all Blacks are criminals), but there’s definitely a hostile, taxonomical disposition there that is worth noticing, is undeniable, and is civilizationally consequential.

    • Replies: @very old statistician
  41. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Biden ( a creature who even before he was senile hated hard-working Americans – he hates them now, but that is not a big deal, the important thing is that he hated them before he was senile) , and poor unlovely non-Jew and phony Catholic AOC, with her fat slob gentile boyfriend, and Newsom and the Cuomo haters-of-the-working-class are more powerful – are more powerful, and more full of hatred for ordinary Americans – than any American of Jewish descent. I could add the arrogant Clinton/Rodham duo, and the ex-concubine of Willie Harris, and Michelle Obama and her wife, and the poor old lady with HIDEOUS AMOUNTS OF BOTOX, Pelosi, and many other non-Jews. Sure there is Chuckie Schumer and Warren Buffet, but You know all that, but you just hate Jews, so you ignore what you know.

    By the way when did you change your name from Jennifer to Jenner —- or is that just something Unz Review required of you, for obscure reasons?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  42. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    This Ryder Cup has the best television of any golf broadcast I have ever seen. The absence of trees and the substantial elevations provide excellent viewing angles and sight lines.

    Personally, I don’t want to go to a tournament and sit in bleachers. Any sitting will be in an air conditioned hospitality tent with refreshments. But tournaments are fun to just wander around.

    But frankly, if you want to actually see professional competitive golf, the only place to be is near a set.

    Medinah Country Club, where the 2012 Cup was played was a much better place to wander around. A more expansive, tree lined, old school course.

    Another hallmark of the better courses is the absence of visible housing development. See the Jack Nicklaus Muirfield Village course as a counter example. Great courses don’t need a housing promote to provide financing.

  43. @anon

    The problem with Chicago’s Medinah as a spectator course is that the greens are all elevated and then fall off, so only the first row can see much. People used to use periscopes, but then they banned them.

    But it has a pretty impressive topographical feature by Chicago standards: a deep gorge that has been dammed for a long lake.

  44. @SafeNow

    12 or 14 holes would be ideal.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  45. Irishman says:

    The 18th hole on the Irish course is called Black and Tan which seems like a rather gratuitous slap.

    Black and Tans were British paramilitaries who fought against Irish independence in the 1920s. They have an infamous reputation in Ireland.

    • Replies: @Steve-O
    , @Muggles
  46. SafeNow says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Golfers divide 50-5o on the shortening issue, according to one blog. link below. Some interesting comments are there. Very quick research. It would be hard for me to trust any poll, because of the “Yes, I admit I am a wimp“ factor. But I know what the results would be if you polled the spouses, and asked them how they enjoy hearing, on a Sunday, “Bye, I’ll see you in about six hours, and then I’ll need a shower and a nap, so don’t make any plans for me today.”

    https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/debate-would-most-of-you-get-more-enjoyment-playin-shorter-courses.65733/

    • Replies: @Whereismyhandle
  47. @SafeNow

    Literally the only two reasons anyone is an avid golfer is because they’re a gambling degenerate or they want an excuse to get away from their wives.

    Nobody enjoys that garbage “sport” as such.

  48. @Jim Christian

    With the exception of Fianau, the entire Ryder Cup field is White. With no exceptions, the woke commercials are black, obese and mostly women. The Michelob commercials are change-the-channel mandatory, even with the split screen. The black women in those are so obese they could hardly walk, you can tell. Is that a Ryder Cup thing, or should we expect this on Tour, which has been remarkably free of such repulsive sludge so far?

    Repulsive is exactly the word.

    This seems to be the year where even the sane marketing guys, couldn’t say “hell no” for fear of being cancelled? You just wonder how good a marketing guy can you be if you can’t make a persuasive case that these commercials will not appeal to the golf watching demographic. Maybe it’s higher up the management ladder. Corporations sure don’t seem to care about the bottom line this year.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
  49. LondonBob says:

    Must be confusing to have Spain as part of Europe and the Spanish players being unambiguously White.

  50. Steve-O says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Have you played any on the Michigan side (Arcadia Bluffs and Crystal Downs in particular)?

  51. Steve-O says:
    @Irishman

    Does the layered half-Guinness, half-Harp pour known as a “Black and Tan” in the US exist in Ireland?

    • Replies: @Irishman
    , @Brutusale
  52. pyrrhus says:
    @Bragadocious

    And the fluoride will reduce their IQs even more…win/win!

  53. pyrrhus says:
    @TWS

    The Covid Cult has been strangely silent about this fully vaxxed celebrity’s problems….

  54. @Jim Christian

    I was at the Solheim Cup (women’s version of Ryder Cup) in Toledo a few weeks ago, and it was very similar. The few darker gals on team USA looked East Indian.

  55. @anon

    Everyone is drinking by 7am in those Muirfield Village houses during the Memorial Tournament, and completely hammered by noon. The only other tournaments where people booze that consistently is the Waste Management sponsored one in Phoenix and The Players in Jacksonville.

  56. FPD72 says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Wyman is laying the groundwork for Biden’s proposed changes of inheritance laws:

    1. Eliminating the basis reset at time of death for capital gains.
    2. Reducing the amount of the exemption.
    3. Increasing the estate tax rate.

    Maybe succeeding generations haven’t done much to “deserve” the estates they inherit but the leeches sucking from public veins have done nothing at all. Those who homesteaded farms, started businesses, or built practices did so in large part with a view toward their posterity. Their estates result from a future orientation. Their goal was not to spend their last dollar with their dying breath but instead to make life better for their descendants.

  57. J.Ross says:

    OT text of the flight surgeon’s grounding of jabbed flight crew, excerpt below fold.

    https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/09/affidavit-of-ltc-theresa-long-m-d-in-support-of-a-motion-for-a-preliminary-injunction-order/

    [MORE]

    39. The subject matter of this Motion for a Preliminary Injunction and its devastating effects on members of the military compel me to conclude and conduct accordingly as follows:

    a) None of the ordered Emergency Use Covid 19 vaccines can or will provide better immunity than an infection-recovered person;
    b) All three of the EUA Covid 19 vaccines (Comirnaty is not available), in the age group and fitness level of my patients, are more risky, harmful and dangerous than having no vaccine at all, whether a person is Covid recovered or facing a Covid 19 infection;
    c) Direct evidence exists and suggests that all persons who have received a Covid 19 Vaccine are damaged in their cardiovascular system in an irreparable and irrevocable manner;
    d) Due to the Spike protein production that is engineered into the user’s genome, each such recipient of the Covid 19 Vaccines already has micro clots in their cardiovascular system that present a danger to their health and safety;
    e) That such micro clots over time will become bigger clots by the very nature of the shape and composition of the Spike proteins…
    h) That, by virtue of their occupations, said flight crews present extraordinary risks to themselves and others given the equipment they operate, munitions carried thereon and areas of operation in close proximity to populated areas.
    i) That, without any current screening procedures in place, including any Aero Message (flight surgeon notice) relating to this demonstrable and identifiable risk, I must and will therefore ground all active flight personnel who received the vaccinations until such time as the causation of these serious systemic health risks can be more fully and adequately assessed.

  58. Muggles says:
    @Irishman

    The 18th hole on the Irish course is called Black and Tan which seems like a rather gratuitous slap.

    You may be correct about the British paramilitaries.

    However, isn’t Black & Tan a very popular Irish pub drink of Guinness and beer? I don’t think pubs would use that name if it represented something the Irish remember as terrible.

    Of course, after a brief time in the pub, historical memories tend to fade…

    • Replies: @Irishman
  59. @Whereismyhandle

    Boxing fans are not like most English sports fans*, to put it mildly. Our friend Brag is still nursing the pain of whatever ancestral trauma has been inflicted on him, that’s all he ever posts about.

    * back in the London “Big Bang” days of the mid-late 80s, I was told on good authority that if you wanted a good, drunken night out with your highly paid City team, go to the dog track (Walthamstow was a favourite, now gone, alas) – but if you were after that young privately-educated analyst, take her to a boxing match – doesn’t have to be a big title fight, the rougher the venue the better – like Bethnal Green’s York Hall.

    Apparently watching guys knocking chunks off each other in front of a baying crowd does interesting things to the gyroscope of the female libido.

  60. danand says:

    Bryson DeChambeau ended up putting on quite the show at Whistling Straits:

    A look into Bryson’s “away from the course” life. A bit fascinating to me to observe this, obviously intelligent, “16 year old frat boy” making it big in a grown mans body/world. More power to him, he’s one of few getting to live life as he chooses:

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
  61. @very old statistician

    very old statistician

    How many years old are you?

    • Replies: @very old statistician
  62. Ganderson says:
    @SafeNow

    Most courses around here one can get around, walking, in a foursome in about four hours. Well one used to be able to, but slow play is a huge problem. Many players do not care if they finish in 5 or more hours. I do.

    Speaking of Whistling Straits, I walked it during one of the PGA practice rounds in 2015, and as a 16 handicap I’d not want to play there- too much golf course for me. And who wants to lose a dozen balls? Fun to watch the pros play there, though.

  63. Ganderson says:
    @AnotherDad

    Don’t much care for the commercials on split screen, either. One can’t reall tell what is going on in the matches. I realize they have to make money, but hoe about “this, from a few minutes ago…”

  64. Irishman says:
    @Muggles

    I’ve never heard of that phrase being used for a drink in Ireland.

    As to the potency of Black and Tan…

    The last Irish government collapsed in a furore when it proposed to commemorate The Royal Irish Constabulary(pre independence UK cops in Ireland) of which the Black and Tans were part.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51095369

  65. @danand

    DeChambeau has awesome skill and is fun to watch; plus he enjoys the crowds. I watched him, Cantlay and Rahm tear up the course at Caves Valley on Saturday last month at the BMW Championship; what a show! But, like the big hitters before him (Daly, Woods, Bubba Watson), he’ll eventually have to adjust his swing/game or he’ll get hurt. He has so much torque in his swing, but he’s young and feels indestructible.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  66. @Captain Tripps

    The weird thing about Tiger was he had a short backswing. And he wasn’t very aggressive about club technology (the way, say, Barry Bonds was into improving bat technology, switching from ash wood to maple wood, anti-hit-by-pitch armor, and after 1998, of course, PEDs).

    Clearly, Tiger was into PEDs by, say, 2006 when he was training to become a Navy SEAL to top his late dad’s membership in the Green Berets. But he was famous as a very skinny kid at age 15 in 1991 when he first won the USGA Amateur for the first of three times in 1991. I can recall where I was (the food court of the Northwest train station in Chicago) when I first read about Tiger 30 years ago.

    Maybe Tiger was just physically superior to his rivals?

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  67. Brutusale says:
    @Steve-O

    Pro tip: for the very reason mentioned earlier about the derivation of the Black & Tans, never order the half Guinness/half ale (usually Bass ale because Harp isn’t available most places) by that name in a real Irish tavern. Order a Half & Half.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_and_half

  68. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Dustin Johnson had 8 birdies in his singles match against Paul Casey. The course was set up for exciting scoring.

    Meanwhile, any thoughts concerning the cause of the meltdown at Medina. The subtext of what Stricker wasn’t going to let happen. Too much boozing?

  69. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I am fortunate to have four grandparents (some people only have three, which is sad, and some people only have 2, which is beyond sad). My youngest grandparent (surprisingly, a male – he was a few months younger in his wife and much much younger than his daughter’s parents-in-law) was born in 1879, 1880 or 1881, and my oldest grandparent (also a male, but that makes more sense), somewhere in the middle 1860s.

    That being said, as recently as 1995, I got in an argument with a bouncer at a bar who demanded I show proof of age, and throughout the period 2010-2020 I was often flirted with by women in their early 30s who were wasting their time because they were much too young for me and wrongly assumed I was still in my (by then long gone) 40s.

    Anyway, North of 60, South of 65. But I have a bad heart (unfixable even with today’s technology) so every night when I go to sleep it is sort of give or take if I am gonna wake up the next morning. Which tends to lend interest to life (as the blog host here has said in other contexts, it is too good not to steal), but if I lived alone with pets I would have to leave out, every evening, about a month’s worth of food and water for the cats and dogs, which would be, while the right thing to do, sort of much. Fortunately I do not live alone with pets, but the fact that if I did live alone with pets I would have do that makes me feel very, very, old.

    • Thanks: Jenner Ickham Errican
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