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From Fox News:

Protesters at the rally for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump rushed the arena floor in jubilant celebration after the announcement that he was calling off the event due to security concerns.

Many jumped up and down, with arms up in the air, shouting “F— Trump!” ”Bernie! Bernie!” and “We stoppedTrump!”

Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place.

He says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not. We came in here and we wanted to shut this down. Because this is a great city and we don’t want to let that person in here.”

Siddiqui says he’s a supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders. He says it “feels amazing” to have stopped Trump from speaking at his own rally.

He adds: “Everybody came together. That’s what people can do. Now people got to go out and vote because we have the opportunity to stop Trump.”

Hours before the event was scheduled to start, hundreds of people lined up outside the arena at the University of Illinois at Chicago — a civil and immigrant rights organizing hub with large minority student populations. Trump backers were separated from an equally large crowd of anti-Trump protesters by a heavy police presence and barricades. …

However, 19-year-old Rusty Shackleford of Lombard, in line to attend the Trump rally, said he was there to “support the man who wants to make America great again.”

Chicago community activist Quo Vadis said hundreds of protesters had positioned themselves in groups around the arena, and that they intend to demonstrate right after Trump takes the stage. Their goal, he said, is “for Donald to take the stage and to completely interrupt him. The plan is to shut Donald Trump all the way down.”

“Quo Vadis” is presumably Quovadis Green and would have been happy to have given his full name to the rushed reporter. “Rusty Shackleford,” however, is probably not named Rusty Shackleford.

That’s probably a pattern in who doesn’t feel free to use his real name in these tolerant times.

 
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  1. This… angers me.

    I’d post my full thoughts but I don’t know if Steve has his smelling salts handy.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Aren't you the one that just suggested that Reg Cæsar walk it off? Cool down dude! We can't afford even one blown gasket in this contest.
  2. This is going to be a wild and crazy summer in the USA:

    • Replies: @Anon7
    Interesting speculation, which I'm taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry, and there were marches with hundreds of thousands of people. Black Panthers, SDS, Weathermen, White Panthers, hippies, yippies, Chavez and the unions. Now, we'll have to add Muslims, too.

    I can't wait to see Trump's strategy!

    , @Hail

    Justin Raimondo (om Twitter):
    Trump supporters: it's time to organize defense squads
     
    Idle Twittering?

    Link to the origin of this "Trump defense squads" comment?

    , @Hrw-500
    Could we might have some rioting like theHough riots in Cleveland who happened 50 years ago?
    , @FozzieT
    Maybe Trump should put together a private security team. Call them the StormTrumpers and have Karl Lagerfeld design the (fabulous) uniforms.
  3. We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    It's never a mistake to have white children!
    , @Old fogey
    It is never a mistake to have children.
    , @ben tillman

    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?
     
    Hell, no, it is not!
    , @Realist
    "A mistake to have children?"

    It's a mistake to live in that shit hole....Chicago.
    , @22pp22
    Of course, you were right to have children.

    However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept.
    , @Ken
    It's a mistake not to have more children. Keep them away from public schools.
    , @Big Bill
    Have children, just don't take them to political rallies/riots.

    You will need children to pass on your culture and religion, to give you grandbabies to entertain you in your dotage, and to care for you when you are old.

    And the best part is they are so easy and fun to make!
    , @Chrisnonymous
    You can always move to a place that is inconvenient to live.

    Whether you want to buy into Derb's Ice People and Sun People divide, or you believe we originated in Arctic Thule, or anything more sensible, I think it remains the case that places high in elevation, high in latitude, or barren and open will remain civilized much longer than the rest of the country...
    , @Andrew
    "A mistake to have children?"

    NO!

    A mistake to give the future away to the SJW thugs by not showing up.

    Have lots of children. Help make our future together!
    , @SFG
    If you don't, they win long-term.

    Though as 22pp22 says, the kids might have to move around a bit.
  4. Apparently “safe spaces” are not necessary off campus.

  5. Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).
     
    I'm not sure that's what this election will determine, but either way I'm with you. You make a good point.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    ... or do you want your country back?
     
    Hell, for the time being I'd settle to get my county back!
    , @Big Bill
    I love the close-ups of the enraged lefties. They remind me of the famous 1960s school desegregation photos: sweet little black girls in nice dresses walking peacefully to school in their Sunday dresses, heads held high, with a surging mob of angry adults barely held back by National Guardsmen. The contrast of civility and rage shocked the entire nation.

    Contra Justin, Trump does not need (or want) Brownshirts. He wants his supporters to act confident and peaceful. He wants photo-ops of enraged psycho activist leftist NAMs barely held back by a thin blue line. The more paranoid nutcases that Soros flushes out into the streets, the more mini-Fergusons he generates, the better.

    Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please.

    One thing is sure: with Soros funding more mini-Fergusons there will be plenty of opportunity for months.
  6. Trump just got elected tonight.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    Completely agree. It was a pyrrhic victory for the SJW/BLM/cultural marxists tonight.

    These people are going to hurt trump about as much as the hippies protesting hurt nixon.
    , @David In TN
    Well, I hope so, but I'm not sure. A good many timid, afraid-to-offend white Americans will follow the media's lead and blame Trump. I hope not, but I've learned to be pessimistic about people "waking up."
    , @celt darnell
    Disagree.

    This was not a victory for Trump -- just as Bernie Sanders being pushed aside by the BLM scum at his own rally looked bad for Bernie, this looks bad for Trump.

    The media is going to spin this as the defeat of a loudmouthed coward. We've already got one commentator in here making that claim -- Bbhj (who has never committed a single act of courage in his life).

    I can even see them selling this as the 99% standing up to the 1% -- they are that dishonest.

    Trump has been tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.

    That mangina Barack Obama will be crowing about this tomorrow, too.

    Whether or not Trump gets to the White House or not depends on how he reacts to and deals with this.

    But it can't happen again, or Trump's toast.
    , @Bugg
    Truth. He can start measuring for Oval Office drapes forthwith. Every time LaRaza/Occupy/MoveOn/BLM shows up his poll numbers among middle and working class typical white people will bump up. Keep it up. Keep reminding the people Trump needs to win that a whole host of leftists with their hands out 24/7 oppose him. In Chicago of all places, The One's utterly dysfunctional home turf. Keep doing what your doing, you damn silly fools.
    , @Marty T
    He got nominated tonight, he won't be elected.
  7. The last time Leftist morons disrupted the American political process in Chicago, seventy days later Americans elected Richard Nixon President of the United States.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey's Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions.
  8. So much for Trump’s claim that he’d never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    This is a parody, yes? If not, it is self-parodic.
    , @Space Ghost
    Low energy troll attempt, 2/10
    , @Felix Keverich
    The total lack of self-awareness in the above comment is fascinating!
    , @SFG
    You must be new here.
    , @Pericles
    Clinton and Sanders must act decisively to denounce and expel the anti-democratic elements of the Democratic party. Or are they for electoral violence and disruption of democracy? No platform!

    I'm sure the MSM will be on it right away. Right. Away.
    , @22pp22
    Don't feed the troll.
    , @AndrewR
    a) why does Sailer allow troll comments like this when he's such a puritan about non-troll comments discussing violence

    b) why do people respond

  9. What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this “victory;” and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    https://mobile.twitter.com/FOX2now/status/708335123037601792

    More stuff like this is going to come out the more the SNW/BLM types protest at trump rallies. Trump should use this in ads to demonstrate who he is fighting against - people who openly brag and pose for the cameras while stomping an american flag.
    , @Clyde

    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this “victory;” and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.
     
    The leftists succeeded because they had a large number of demonstrators due to the event being held in an auditorium on the campus of a publicly funded college. The University of Illinois.
    Your tax dollars at work!
    Donald Trump will have to hire off campus rally venues. Too many lefties and anti-white racists on certain college campuses. Trump's team now must spend extra time planning these events.
    , @Louis Renault
    Time to re-read Mau Mauing the flack Checkers by Tom Wolfe. Confrontation is precisely what these tax subsidized protesters against the first amendment the right to peaceable assemble are trying to provoke.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I agree. Trump should have stood up to the protesters, let a little violence happen, then put it all on Bernie Sanders since they were Bernie supporters. He should have called on Bernie to denounce the protests as anti-free-speech and violent.

    He had a chance to drive a wedge either between a candidate and his supporters or between a campaign and the public, and instead he took the option of appearing weak and inviting more challenges.

    Furthermore, putting off the violence only means when it happens, it's going to be that much worse.

    Actually, his judgement in this situation makes me worry a little bit about him as a president...
  10. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I may be wrong on this, but I think that being a beat journalist skews young. And anyone beneath a certain age (~35ish) knows the KotH reference.
    Sailer has frequently mentioned that it’s his suspicion that many journos read him, or at least would broadly agree with his overall tenor, but that to openly say so would be to CimeThink.
    I’d wager a paycheck that the beat reporter assigned this story *knew beyond doubt* what Rusty Shackleford was/meant. And it makes it more telling. Compare eg “An unnamed 19 year old” to “Rusty Shackleford”. “Unnamed”=He gave me a false name but Shackleford= “He gave me a false name, and I can appreciate why”.
    I’d bet this reporter may, too, be a closet MAGA’er, using the Nom de Guerre intentionally as a way of, so to speak, “blinking SOS”

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    You know, some people who don't read iSteve probably get the Rusty Shackleford reference. It was, after all, a popular TV show for a long time.
  11. so given that this place is apparently known as a hotbed of nonwhite pain-in-the-ass-ness, do we think Trump did this on purpose to provoke exactly this response?

    and, do we think that Trump rallies will become zones for semi-organized group combat?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    I think trump completely knew this exact same thing would happen. Even little marco is defending trump (for the most part) on foxnews now.
  12. The NYT has an article about how the protestor’s feelings have been hurt by the rudeness of Trump supporters at the Trump rallies. One protestor said:

    “Did I enjoy being treated like trash? No, not at all,” she said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/riskiest-political-act-of-2016-protesting-at-rallies-for-donald-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

    • Replies: @Antonymous
    Unbelievable bias to call threatening and attacking attendees the "riskiest political act of 2016." Also the insistence on using "protesters" as descriptor for people biting ears off, just as in Ferguson and Baltimore wanton destruction was endorsed as "peaceful protests." I contrast this with coverage, both by NPR and the Times, of the Malheur refuge protesters who injured no one and were referred to as "militants" (and the book thrown at them legally).
  13. I doubt this is going to make anyone here even a little sympathetic with what Rahm has to go through every day. It should but it won’t.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    What makes you think Rahm was outside of the planning of it?
    , @AndrewR
    Feel bad for him? These leftists are Rahm's people. He might not like it when they block traffic downtown but he is firmly on their side.
    , @Lurker
    Rahm doesn't have to be in Chicago. In fact, as an Israeli patriot and citizen, he doesn't have to be in the US at all.
    , @Brutusale
    What, Tiny Dancer doesn't know his own town?
  14. @Paul Kersey
    Trump just got elected tonight.

    Completely agree. It was a pyrrhic victory for the SJW/BLM/cultural marxists tonight.

    These people are going to hurt trump about as much as the hippies protesting hurt nixon.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    These people are going to hurt trump about as much as the hippies protesting hurt nixon.
     
    Hippies were apolitical.
  15. Why wasn’t Trump prepared for this?

    What is the plan to handle 10x this at the Republican convention?

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Why wasn’t Trump prepared for this?

    What is the plan to handle 10x this at the Republican convention?
     

    By that time Trump will have to have a phalanx of Uzi-toting Blackwater guards in safari vests and khakis. Forget Secret Service, these glorified executive bodyguards are for a kinder, gentler time and place. These Blackwater guys will be moving Trump in and out of Cleveland like Paul Bremer going to meetings outside The Green Zone.
    , @anon
    Why wasn’t Trump prepared for this?

    What on earth do you mean? The news today is all about some woman getting grabbed on the arm at a Trump rally, and then a riot breaks out, caused by Democrats. He may be the luckiest man on God's green earth.

    You think he would've wanted to stop this from happening?

  16. “There’s legitimate protest, and then there’s an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That’s completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he’s affiliated with such as BLM.”

    There’s no way Sanders isn’t going to respond to Trump’s statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He’s shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he’s on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He’s also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he’s reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn’t make that statement, I did. That’s the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn’t capable of making such a statement. He isn’t capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump’s actual response. If his fanboys can’t do that, then why trust them about anything?

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Disagree: Clyde
    • Replies: @TangoMan
    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it's such a shame that you're not out there as the major-domo of a politician's campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.
    , @Andrew E.
    Cruz did even better than you suggest. He sided with MoveOn and BLM. Disgusting.
    , @Hunsdon
    Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?
    , @Mr. Anon
    "That’s the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say."

    When has Cruz ever expressed anything that was even remotely pro-white as such?
    , @Emblematic
    I kind of agree. Trump's not half as good as we wish he was. We mostly like him because we hate his enemies.
    , @Anonymous
    Today Donald Trump called on Bernie Sanders to tell his supporters to stop interfering with Trump's and his supports' first amendment rights.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/12/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-should-tell-his-protestors-stop-stop/
    , @Anonymous
    Why do you and your website have a name that isn't intuitive, with regard to being against immigration? Does anyone, beside you, know what "24 Ahead" means or alludes to?
  17. @27 year old
    so given that this place is apparently known as a hotbed of nonwhite pain-in-the-ass-ness, do we think Trump did this on purpose to provoke exactly this response?

    and, do we think that Trump rallies will become zones for semi-organized group combat?

    I think trump completely knew this exact same thing would happen. Even little marco is defending trump (for the most part) on foxnews now.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    All three of Trump's GOP rivals were opportunistic here but Kasich went full cuck

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/11/cruz-and-rubio-criticize-trump-for-creating-environment-for-chicago-protest/
  18. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    This is a parody, yes? If not, it is self-parodic.

  19. MG says:

    Mainstream reporters today have come out as apologists for thugs disrupting free democratic expression.

    The leap in logic is – because Trump occasionally is rough on protestors, it is okay to shut down his rallies.

    I hope Trump is elected President. I was a supporter, but tonight I am so determined that I will even vote for him in the primary (for which I will need to register as a Republican in my state).

  20. @Auntie Analogue
    The last time Leftist morons disrupted the American political process in Chicago, seventy days later Americans elected Richard Nixon President of the United States.

    Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey’s Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions.

    • Replies: @Auntie Analogue

    "Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey’s Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions."

     

    My dear, David in TN, that's not the point. What's more, you know that's not the point.

    The point is that Leftist-lib-"Progressives" have again forced themselves to suffer a self-inflicted, probably lethal, wound. Or, to put it as a sports metaphor: an own-goal.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    I saw a CNN clip of the fracas, and I noticed that the protestors were chanting, "Bernie! Bernie!"

    CONSPIRACY THEORY: What if the protesters were really sent by the Hillary campaign in the hopes that Trump supporters would retaliate at a Bernie rally? That way, Hillary could pose as the 'uniter', the only one capable of 'bringing us all together again'. It worked for Nixon in '68. Back then, many people believed that Nixon was a washed up, establishment politician who had already lost too many races to be taken seriously. But after the Democratic Party convention, he was able to turn his boring, establishment image to his advantage, convincing people that he could restore 'law and order'. (Of course, having George Wallace in the race stealing votes from Humphrey definitely helped as well.)

    We all know that the Clintons are devious and unethical enough to be capable of such a move. Makes you wonder ...

  21. @Alec Leamas
    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this "victory;" and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FOX2now/status/708335123037601792

    More stuff like this is going to come out the more the SNW/BLM types protest at trump rallies. Trump should use this in ads to demonstrate who he is fighting against – people who openly brag and pose for the cameras while stomping an american flag.

  22. @Paul Kersey
    Trump just got elected tonight.

    Well, I hope so, but I’m not sure. A good many timid, afraid-to-offend white Americans will follow the media’s lead and blame Trump. I hope not, but I’ve learned to be pessimistic about people “waking up.”

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    I agree with your skepticism David, but I think there is reason to be cautiously optimistic. Events are unfolding in America that are making it clear to all but the most obtuse that our nation is in serious trouble and that our leaders are corrupt. Trump, for all his faults, is a breath of fresh air to the lies and stench that define our current "Republic." And as Paul Kersey says, no better advertisement for Trump than to see the scum out in force shutting down his rallies and suppressing free speech. Time to choose sides. If you are white and you vote for either Hillary or Bernie you are beyond redemption.
  23. @AndrewR
    This... angers me.

    I'd post my full thoughts but I don't know if Steve has his smelling salts handy.

    Aren’t you the one that just suggested that Reg Cæsar walk it off? Cool down dude! We can’t afford even one blown gasket in this contest.

    • Replies: @SFG
    You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I can't keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not.
  24. Bernie Sanders supporters are pretty peaceful

    Was there anything comparable to this against Obama? How scared would the media be if Trump supporters organized like this against Hillary?

    • Replies: @guest
    Had there been anything like this against Obama they'd have declared martial law, and the MSM would've been acting as if a second holocaust had occurred.
  25. I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view"

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn't run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    , @Anonymous
    What are you talking about? sanders faced this exact thing when he spoke at liberty university
    , @Ed
    Matthews made a similar point when he talked to Trump. Trump shut him down so thoroughly he moved on to another topic.
    , @ben tillman

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority [sic] communities.
     
    The word is non-white.
    , @Another Canadian

    ...blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.
     
    Isn't this the truth? It has been demonstrated as true throughout my lifetime, in all times and places, and I'm about ready to retire. Nothing new to see here.
  26. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    some people even post heretical comments online, but change their online monikers from time to time to keep from being outed.

  27. I know someone with almost this very name.

  28. I see stars aligning. Hack establishment has perfect opportunity to save face. Can you hear the trumpets?

  29. Trump’s security should take a page out of the Israeli airport security book and decide entrance based on gut feeling. Anybody can distinguish a lefty student from a Trump supporter with perfect accuracy and they’re not clever enough to fake it.

    On the other hand that would mean turning away a bunch of blacks so verboten. Really, the “heads I win tails you lose” aspect of this is remarkable.

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    Many Blacks support Thrump. It would be hard to separate the Pro donald Blacks from the Anto Donald ones.
  30. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it’s such a shame that you’re not out there as the major-domo of a politician’s campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    As you make your way through life, it's important to have some idea of how you're coming off to other people. With that in mind, I hope 24AheadDotCom gives serious consideration to your remarks.
    , @ben tillman

    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it’s such a shame that you’re not out there as the major-domo of a politician’s campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate. . . .
     
    That's too harsh. He's trying to move things in the right direction, and you should respect that.
    , @Brutusale
    Hey, he's about as right about the campaign as Mike Murphy!

    He's didn't get $14 million for his advice, though.
    , @24AheadDotCom
    My reply to TangoMan didn't get approved, which isn't too ethical. I should get a chance to reply to those who smear me with completely personal smears.

    In any case, my earlier reply has been overtaken by events. Today Trump is sounding like what I wrote in my first comment:

    "These other people by the way, some represented Bernie, our communist friend... Now really Bernie should tell his people…he should really get up and say to his people ‘stop, stop.’"
     
    Because Trump did it wrong - including lying about Sanders - that won't have much impact. In fact, Sanders has issued a reply doubling-down on blaming Trump. That wouldn't have happened if Trump had done things the smart way: referencing a clear attempt to silence him by those who were clearly affiliated with Sanders and issuing a clear demand that Sanders denounces attempts to silence him.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers, but I think claiming partial vindication is justified.

    Meanwhile, these users didn't want Trump to call out Sanders: TangoMan, Brutusale, Harry Baldwin, Charles Erwin Wilson, Clyde, Ozymandias. They're part of the problem. Instead of demanding that Trump does smart things that would help him, they want Trump to keep up the pandering to idiots that's going to mean he'll lose in a landslide if he's the candidate. Of course, those like "TangoMan" and the rest will simply change their names to avoid any responsibility for enabling that.
  31. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    Low energy troll attempt, 2/10

  32. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    It’s never a mistake to have white children!

  33. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    It is never a mistake to have children.

  34. “They haven’t shut down the rally at all because its on television now, Greta. There are far more people watching it now than there would have if we were in the arena. People are seeing that we are being stifled, free speech is being stifled.”

    “It’s been postponed, and we’ll do it again”

    Wow. Trump just got a bunch of publicity and probably gained even more support. Also showed how “vibrant” Chicago is.

    • Agree: Travis
  35. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    The total lack of self-awareness in the above comment is fascinating!

  36. Kamran Siddiqui represents everything America is not

    That works better for me.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  37. @TangoMan
    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it's such a shame that you're not out there as the major-domo of a politician's campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.

    As you make your way through life, it’s important to have some idea of how you’re coming off to other people. With that in mind, I hope 24AheadDotCom gives serious consideration to your remarks.

  38. @David In TN
    Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey's Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions.

    “Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey’s Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions.”

    My dear, David in TN, that’s not the point. What’s more, you know that’s not the point.

    The point is that Leftist-lib-“Progressives” have again forced themselves to suffer a self-inflicted, probably lethal, wound. Or, to put it as a sports metaphor: an own-goal.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat. They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion.

    I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin.
  39. This will most definitely go down as the night Trump secured the nomination and put him well on his way to the White House.

    People will see in real time that the country is lost.

  40. @Anon7
    I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago's minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    “I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view”

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn’t run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn’t run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?
     
    You are right; they are not. This is probably not coming from Chicago's Black community.
    , @Anon
    Yes, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit are very black, but you see, they lack that white liberal base you need to get a riot organized. It goes like this: Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city. These white liberals have contacts among the local black community, and the whites organize and arrange for the black mob to show up.

    In a nutshell, almost no white liberals live in New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit. The first are too traditionally southern (they were always places you moved away from if you were a liberal), and the latter is too poor and violent for white upper middles to be able to stand it. Soros can't get anything going if his army lacks what you could call 'line officers.' The black mob isn't capable of organizing itself without whites leading it.

    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?"

    No. Just better funded, by Organizing Against America and Soros.

    As it gets surpassing clear that Trump will be the Repub nominee and will handily pile-drive either of those two frail, unlikeable Democratic senior citizens in the general election, certain people are starting to panic. Ergo: paid rent-a-mobs.
  41. @Anon7
    I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago's minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    What are you talking about? sanders faced this exact thing when he spoke at liberty university

    • Replies: @Discard
    Check out Steve's next post. You are mistaken.
    , @Anon7
    I don't understand your point. There is no similarity whatsoever between Sander's successful hour-long speech at Liberty University and Trump's abortive attempt at public speaking in Chicago, which was prevented by a mixture of white liberal feminists and black and hispanic activists (all of the people who'd stand to lose the most under a Trump presidency).

    But what was striking wasn’t the majority of students who lacked enthusiasm for this most liberal candidate in the presidential race, but the few among them who came wearing Bernie T-shirts and brandishing handmade signs. For Liberty University, like most schools, is composed of a self-selected student body and faculty. It’s unlikely that many high school seniors who consider themselves liberal or leftist would apply.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-spoke-at-jerry-falwells-college-heres-the-reaction-he-got/
     
    Liberty University's student body attended because attendance was mandatory for all students; they were obedient and polite. And if your point is that "freedom of speech" is a concept that is mostly understood and honored by northern European-heritage males, I'd say "Well, obviously".
  42. @Anon7
    I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago's minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    Matthews made a similar point when he talked to Trump. Trump shut him down so thoroughly he moved on to another topic.

  43. He needs to reschedule Chicago before the Ill. primary. He needs massive security and massive supporter presence.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Trump could easily hold a number of rallies at the Allstate Center(formerly known as the Rosemont Horizon) just down the road from O'Hare Airport and outside of Rahm Emmanuel's Chicago jurisdiction.

    Tons of Chicagoland whites would love and fight to attend. The Rosemont is right next door to the Edison and Portage Park neighborhoods where lots of Chicago cops, firefighters, teachers and city workers live.

    The very grandchildren of those cops who fought the lefties in Grant Park 48 years ago would love to have their chance to once again restore order.
  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @FactsAreImportant
    Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

    What is the plan to handle 10x this at the Republican convention?

    Why wasn’t Trump prepared for this?

    What is the plan to handle 10x this at the Republican convention?

    By that time Trump will have to have a phalanx of Uzi-toting Blackwater guards in safari vests and khakis. Forget Secret Service, these glorified executive bodyguards are for a kinder, gentler time and place. These Blackwater guys will be moving Trump in and out of Cleveland like Paul Bremer going to meetings outside The Green Zone.

  45. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Aren't you the one that just suggested that Reg Cæsar walk it off? Cool down dude! We can't afford even one blown gasket in this contest.

    You talkin’ to me? You talkin’ to me?

  46. You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn’t 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception — right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually “liberal” in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they’re not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don’t think that they won’t try.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    Absolutely. As I've said, I lived through 1968 and the left is today incomparably more entrenched and powerful. And today's "Middle Americans" are more beaten down and willing to bow down to the Zeitgeist.
    , @ben tillman

    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence....
     
    A huge part of the problem is that we've been attacked surreptitiously for so long. Overt violence against us works in our favor.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps...
     
    Women should be mincing pie filling, as blacks are now. Homos, though, ought to be out front. Perhaps clearing the minefields. David Starr Jordan would approve.
    , @Boomstick

    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence
     
    I think it will get us both.
    , @MarkinLA
    People pretend to be cowed in public then vote for revenge in secret.
    , @AndrewR
    I think what happened will just polarize everyone even more. Anyone who already liked Trump will become more resolute, and anyone who already disliked him will only create victim-blaming rationalizations. We are probably closer to civil war than at any time since Grant. Of course the next one will be more like
    2000s Iraq than 1860s USA.
  47. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    You must be new here.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.
    , @Lagertha
    Ha, hah, haa, so, we're good, right SFG? These are strange times. So, Unity. But, I'll be waiting for all you guys to make me laugh tomorrow! I want a laugh after a particularly hard night!

    If only punk rockers were still around from "back in the day" in London and NYC (Chicago...eh, not so much) to bring out some tunes about this Trump-rally-riot-retrograde-revolting-ridiculous-road show-crazy-town. Plus, I was sort of annoyed that the majority of people rioting (both sides) were college-age morons. Did 'free-speech' somehow not factor-in sometime during HS for these duffusses - how did they get in to college?...I thought 'free speech,' was also a standard SAT question? No wonder Finnish HS students are so much smarter than Chicago college students, perhaps many American college students!

    Next time: Trump needs to have baddass, Road Warrior-like guards with eyeliner and weird clothes, (maybe kilts and leatha, and studs!) as guards or grand-inquisitors, at his future rallies. Create secret, quixotic questions for attendees....and, if they mess up, don't let them in, simple....kind of like "the Knights that say Ni!"

    This was all sooooooo contrived and planned. Conformism on the left (& GOP) is frightening "groupthink," now, this should be a wake-up call to everyone. One would think these young agitators tonight would be fighting the Thought Police and Campus Police on their campuses policing them whether 'Yes means Yes,' and all those conformist things....kinda' disparages the good name of a great band, Yes. Anyway, they should be advocating for free speech, peace, and "constructive conversation," not acting like spoiled brats/nihilists/anarchists. Plus, now their mugs are on the internet forever.

    , @a Newsreader
    That guy posts troll comments here all the time, changing his pseudonym to a new set of garbled letters each time.
  48. @Paul Kersey
    Trump just got elected tonight.

    Disagree.

    This was not a victory for Trump — just as Bernie Sanders being pushed aside by the BLM scum at his own rally looked bad for Bernie, this looks bad for Trump.

    The media is going to spin this as the defeat of a loudmouthed coward. We’ve already got one commentator in here making that claim — Bbhj (who has never committed a single act of courage in his life).

    I can even see them selling this as the 99% standing up to the 1% — they are that dishonest.

    Trump has been tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.

    That mangina Barack Obama will be crowing about this tomorrow, too.

    Whether or not Trump gets to the White House or not depends on how he reacts to and deals with this.

    But it can’t happen again, or Trump’s toast.

    • Replies: @Ed
    The media has lost this entire cycle. Every week they try and throw something at Trump and every week he gets closer to the nomination. The media is a paper tiger if you ignore them. If you wait out the storm. The problem is until now the GOP has been sheepish whipping boys. They still are for the most part.

    People can decide for themselves thanks to the internet.
    , @AndrewR
    You are out of your mind, son. What was Trump supposed to do? Go on with the rally and guarantee mass violence in the audience? Hundreds of protesters were already in the building waiting for a fight. Imagine if he had gone on and you had thousands of people fighting in the audience.

    Trump did the only sensible thing. He needs to put the blame on Chicago and UIC police if they haven't already accepted responsibility for the shitshow.

    This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters. There was no potential for mass violence.
  49. @SFG
    You must be new here.

    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    Obviously Trump was not prepared for this. It's to his credit that he pulled the plug before the blood began to flow. Rahm should be ready next time with National Guard and water cannon.
    , @NC
    I think the video loops of bloody cops and BLM guys throwing punches is going to cinch the nomination for sure. It completely reverses the narrative about Trump supporters being violent and intolerant, and they're going to have to spin hard on this one. Chaotic pitched melee wouldn't have benefited Trump nearly as much. Instead America got to see a coalition of freaks with mexican, rainbow and communist flags parade around tearing up his signs on primetime tv. And what Trump said about Bernie was that he wouldn't have stepped back and let those women take the mic. You can spin it the way state it but cancelling an event where there are thousands of protesters at a venue that was always going to be hostile is a little different than handing your mic and rally over to a couple of dumb fat girls from BLM.
    , @TangoMan
    Trump won't back down when some BLM protester jumps on the stage with him and tries to commandeer his microphone. That's different from not putting the safety of people in the crowd at risk so that Trump can stand resolute. The people's safety is not his to bargain with.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    Please sir, don't be ridiculous. Trump didn't back down. He simply postponed the rally so that no more innocent people would get hurt. That was the right thing to do in this case.

    I've noticed that there are always a few Trump supporters who panic and want to jump off the train any time Trump does something that they think makes him look weak. They need to realize that the real world doesn't work that way. In politics, business, and battle, the situation is constantly changing and you may have to retreat or abandon a position from time to time. That doesn't mean that you're weak, or that you're losing the campaign; it just means you're making some tactical revisions and keeping the big picture in focus. Trump would not have gained anything by keeping his supporters (and the police!) in danger. A small-minded, egotistical man would have gone ahead with the rally to puff himself up and been heedless of the danger he was forcing others to accept. Trump is not like that. He is the very opposite of the egotist his detractors claim him to be.

    Both the country and the Trump campaign would be better served if some of his more excitable supporters would learn to man up themselves and knock off the "let's you and him fight" stuff.
  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “rioters” “mob”

    If fascism could be defeated in debate, I assure you that it would never have happened, neither in Germany, nor in Italy, nor anywhere else. Those who recognised its threat at the time and tried to stop it were, I assume, also called “a mob”. Regrettably too many “fair-minded” people didn’t either try, or want to stop it, and, as I witnessed myself during the war, accommodated themselves when it took over.
    — Franz Frison, Irish Holocaust survivor, 12th December, 1988 in a letter to the Irish Times defending protesters objecting to a Holocaust denier being invited to debate at Trinity College, Dublin

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Phooey. Equating a desire to return to the nominal conservatism of the Reagan era plus a reassertion of border control/sovereignty is hardly fascism. The biggest threat of our era is the emerging totalitarianism of the left: they will not tolerate the continued existence of any nominally traditional western society. Expect a redoubling of their efforts this election cycle to ensure any assertion of a 'national interest' beyond proposition nation platitudes is "hate speech" & "xenophobia"
    , @celt darnell
    Great. Another low IQ pansy comparing Trump to Hitler.

    Yeah, those mobs in Chicago definitely halted a holocaust on American soil.

    Because we all know Trump's planning genocide -- just like Hitler!

    Beat it, fool.
    , @Stogumber
    Stupid Franz Frison#52 didn't get his chronology right. These leftist mobs existed already before and after WWI. The mob wasn't a reaction against fascism, fascism was a reaction against the mob (fighting the mob by imitating its strategies).
    , @AndrewR
    And who are the people allergic to reason and free speech in our era?
  51. How to blunt the rabble’s strategy:
    Secure an area a few blocks from the venue, hire a reggae band. Free grape soda, veggie burgers, not dogs, kebabs and fried chicken. That’d probably work, not much different than using EBT’s.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    Nope, we don't want to blunt the rabble, we want to goad them into spazzing out. Trump needs to reschedule Chicago and choose the biggest venue possible, like Soldier Field.

    First thing that will happen is Rahm Emmanuel will try to block the rally. Trump can take him to court, and portray the Democrats as dirty tricksters.

    When Trump holds his rally the police presence will be _Massive_. The usual suspects will get into fights with the cops, and make Trump look good.

    While the cops are occupied, the rest of the usual suspects can loot to their hearts content. More good visuals for Trump.
  52. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @FactsAreImportant
    Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

    What is the plan to handle 10x this at the Republican convention?

    Why wasn’t Trump prepared for this?

    What on earth do you mean? The news today is all about some woman getting grabbed on the arm at a Trump rally, and then a riot breaks out, caused by Democrats. He may be the luckiest man on God’s green earth.

    You think he would’ve wanted to stop this from happening?

    • Agree: NOTA
  53. Got back from the event an hour ago….media accounts of rioting seem over-hyped. Sure lots of feeble minded frothed up sociology majors plus a big contingent of other BLM, La Raza type agitators. If there were any scuffles, they must have happened after most folks left the venue or were far from the pavillion. Lots of chanting & hate stares from the SJW mob along the sidewalk but nothing more – at least before 7 pm. This is a likely preview of the Cleveland convention where Soros-funded haters will be bused in for portrayals as martyrs by the MSM.

    Given the leftist dominance of Chicago politics, UIC was a v risky choice of venue…. Way too damn easy for the opponents of free speech to get inside in large numbers (probably 300+ inside, mostly on the lower level). The days of peaceful, tradition-minded citizens being able to convene in a public, taxpayer-subsidized venue like the UIC pavillion are fading fast…..soon it will be necessary to have big ticket prices & ID-vetting. The encroachment by the CultMarx brigades means a certain end to norms of civility. Don’t expect Bernie Sanders to disavow his supporters for interfering with an opponent’s event. The Trump campaign hopefully got a big boost tonight, & at least the thuggish nature of the moveon.org cabal has been laid bare.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Given the leftist dominance of Chicago politics, UIC was a v risky choice of venue…. Way too damn easy for the opponents of free speech to get inside in large numbers (probably 300+ inside, mostly on the lower level).
     
    It's is difficult to eject 300 disruptors and protesters without looking bad on TV. Meaning our liberal TV media will only roll video that makes Trump and his security team looks bad. So unfortunately Trump's team called it off. Yes it's a cave in but Trump will be back there with a bigger and better rally at a venue that is less vulnerable.
  54. Odd how Chicago – the genesis of the Obama phenomenon – is where Mitt Romney and BLM converge.

  55. I believe Rusty Shackelford has commented here on occasion.

  56. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    Hell, no, it is not!

  57. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Aren't you the one that just suggested that Reg Cæsar walk it off? Cool down dude! We can't afford even one blown gasket in this contest.

    I can’t keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Any coward can talk trash on the internet.
    , @Andrew
    "I can’t keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not."

    I am "Andrew the father". And thank you, I like the ring of that!

    I never use any initial unless some other Andrew is already around and has taken my handle/name first.
  58. @SDMatt
    Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).

    Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).

    I’m not sure that’s what this election will determine, but either way I’m with you. You make a good point.

  59. @Cagey Beast
    This is going to be a wild and crazy summer in the USA:

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/708467260373868544

    Interesting speculation, which I’m taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry, and there were marches with hundreds of thousands of people. Black Panthers, SDS, Weathermen, White Panthers, hippies, yippies, Chavez and the unions. Now, we’ll have to add Muslims, too.

    I can’t wait to see Trump’s strategy!

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Interesting speculation, which I’m taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry . . . .
     
    The word is non-whites.
  60. Will the Trumpeters be prepared for “Democratic Socialism ” at their next rally, or will they do the “intelligent thing ” and back down again?

  61. I wonder if Rusty is related to that other fictional Shackleford. Assuming that’s his real name, too.

  62. @SDMatt
    Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).

    … or do you want your country back?

    Hell, for the time being I’d settle to get my county back!

  63. “Quo Vadis” is presumably Quovadis Green and would have been happy to have given his full name to the rushed reporter.

    I’d be more ashamed to give my full name if I was called “Quovadis Green”.

    This is the New America: a nation of “Siddiquis” and “Quovadis”. Sic transit gloria mundi.

  64. @FactsAreImportant
    The NYT has an article about how the protestor's feelings have been hurt by the rudeness of Trump supporters at the Trump rallies. One protestor said:

    “Did I enjoy being treated like trash? No, not at all,” she said.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/riskiest-political-act-of-2016-protesting-at-rallies-for-donald-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

    Unbelievable bias to call threatening and attacking attendees the “riskiest political act of 2016.” Also the insistence on using “protesters” as descriptor for people biting ears off, just as in Ferguson and Baltimore wanton destruction was endorsed as “peaceful protests.” I contrast this with coverage, both by NPR and the Times, of the Malheur refuge protesters who injured no one and were referred to as “militants” (and the book thrown at them legally).

    • Replies: @dumpstersquirrel
    "I contrast this with coverage, both by NPR and the Times, of the Malheur refuge protesters who injured no one and were referred to as 'militants' (and the book thrown at them legally)."

    And contrast coverage of the various Occupard brigades of 2011/2012, who destroyed both private and public property and attacked cops, with media coverage of the Malheur occupiers. The only difference is the Malheur men had guns whereas the Occupards did not, but the Occupards caused tens of millions of $ in damage and injured cops whereas the Malheur occupiers damaged nothing and hurt no one. Yet, the Occupards were noble heroes while the Malheur occupiers were malcontents deserving of death, QED (Mr. Finnicum, shot to death by angry, hot-blooded feds), per the media. Who/whom indeed.
  65. @Auntie Analogue

    "Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey’s Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions."

     

    My dear, David in TN, that's not the point. What's more, you know that's not the point.

    The point is that Leftist-lib-"Progressives" have again forced themselves to suffer a self-inflicted, probably lethal, wound. Or, to put it as a sports metaphor: an own-goal.

    I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat. They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion.

    I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin.

    • Replies: @Auntie Analogue

    "I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat."

     

    My dear David in TN, I was around back then too. The 1968 Chicago Leftist morons were not agitating against Hubert Humphrey, they agitated against the Vietnam War, and Humphrey, by being LBJ's Vice President, appeared to the Left to be that war's future "stay the course" guy.

    "They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion."
     
    In 1968 the Left made the error of underestimating Nixon's appeal, dismissed Nixon as a complete non-starter, so the Left just wrote him off. After all, following his 1962 defeat in California's gubernatorial election, major liberal and conservative pundits had long written Nixon off. That's why upon Americans' election of Nixon, the Left was stunned, rebuked: in the Leftist worldview, his 1968 triumph should never have happened.

    "I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin."

     

    That makes two of us.


    In my view, Mr. Trump did well to call off his Chicago rally. He avoided a larger mob contretemps that could only have provided Enemedia-Pravda with more fuel for their Trump Derangement Syndrome hysteria-mongering. He precluded any chance of his rally supporters flying off the handle - attacking the Leftists, which could have sunk his entire campaign. Mr. Trump showed restraint - which is precisely what his hysterical antagonists have accused Mr. Trump of lacking. He showed concern for the safety & security of all present - the safety of his supporters, the event and venue staff, and the Leftist wingnuts. He also prevented a scene in which some of the wingnuts might have gained the stage to shrill out a manifesto which would have handed the loons even more spotlight attention from Enemedia-Pravda that would have made first-rate YouTube fodder for his antagonists.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their "safe space" hypocrisy.
  66. Ed says:
    @celt darnell
    Disagree.

    This was not a victory for Trump -- just as Bernie Sanders being pushed aside by the BLM scum at his own rally looked bad for Bernie, this looks bad for Trump.

    The media is going to spin this as the defeat of a loudmouthed coward. We've already got one commentator in here making that claim -- Bbhj (who has never committed a single act of courage in his life).

    I can even see them selling this as the 99% standing up to the 1% -- they are that dishonest.

    Trump has been tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.

    That mangina Barack Obama will be crowing about this tomorrow, too.

    Whether or not Trump gets to the White House or not depends on how he reacts to and deals with this.

    But it can't happen again, or Trump's toast.

    The media has lost this entire cycle. Every week they try and throw something at Trump and every week he gets closer to the nomination. The media is a paper tiger if you ignore them. If you wait out the storm. The problem is until now the GOP has been sheepish whipping boys. They still are for the most part.

    People can decide for themselves thanks to the internet.

  67. @27 year old
    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.

    Obviously Trump was not prepared for this. It’s to his credit that he pulled the plug before the blood began to flow. Rahm should be ready next time with National Guard and water cannon.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    You think ((Rahm Emmanuel)) is going to bring out the dogs and fire hoses to allow Trump a platform to speak?????? Ha...
    , @Lurker
    Rahm doesn't have to be in Chicago. In fact, as an Israeli patriot and citizen, he doesn't have to be in the US at all.
  68. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    Absolutely. As I’ve said, I lived through 1968 and the left is today incomparably more entrenched and powerful. And today’s “Middle Americans” are more beaten down and willing to bow down to the Zeitgeist.

  69. Mexican flags were spotted among the anti-Donald Trump Chicago protesters.

    El Chapo’s Sinaloa cartel makes a ton of money off of Chicago. That city is a major distributor of his product because of the large Mexican population there.

  70. I have read here that Soros provides funding for both Hillary Clinton and BLM.

    Bernie’s name is being invoked by the protesters… but why in the world would black hardcore SJWs be for Bernie and not Hillary?

    The whole situation seems very win-win for Hillary… perhaps too much so.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well Bernie isnt exactly going out of his way to "disavow" the violent protestors like Trump was made to do with Duke (even though the establishment is still pushing the outright lie that Trump "refused to disavow the KKK."

    Bernie is a useful idiot for the elites. Nothing more.
  71. Now that’s how fascists actually won power. Using “activists” to beat the opposition into submission.

    I wonder if someone will make this historical comparison.

  72. @anony-mouse
    I doubt this is going to make anyone here even a little sympathetic with what Rahm has to go through every day. It should but it won't.

    What makes you think Rahm was outside of the planning of it?

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
    If he had been he would have shouted it loud and long just to get the SJW/BLM/etc off his back.
  73. Reminds me of an earlier time. Unlike ’68 we know who and what is behind it. Moveon.org has taken the credit. From there just follow the money. I can’t wait to watch intimidated conservatives “take the moral high ground” and wordsmith this as “a victory for Trump.” Does anybody on the fringe still believe Nixon’s election was a victory for white people?

  74. Hardcore SJW blacks disrupt a Trump rally and specifically claim to be Sanders supporters. Aren’t they exactly the kind of Democrat least likely to support Sanders? They so famously stole his mic right out of his hands not that long ago…

    The whole situation seems awfully win-win for Hillary. I have read on this site that Soros is bankrolling both Hillary and BLM… is this his handwork?

    • Replies: @5371
    Actually, many young blacks vote for Sanders. It's the older ones who monolithically support Hillary.
    , @anowow
    My thoughts exactly.

    Young blacks supporting Sanders are not the sort of thugs one heard last night chanting Sanders' name.

    If anything, less geeky, older black guys are as likely to support Trump, particularly if they are in a trade or are factory workers.

    This seems like a d-bag Clintonian move to mess with Trump's minority support.
  75. @Anonymous
    "rioters" "mob"

    If fascism could be defeated in debate, I assure you that it would never have happened, neither in Germany, nor in Italy, nor anywhere else. Those who recognised its threat at the time and tried to stop it were, I assume, also called “a mob”. Regrettably too many “fair-minded” people didn’t either try, or want to stop it, and, as I witnessed myself during the war, accommodated themselves when it took over.
    — Franz Frison, Irish Holocaust survivor, 12th December, 1988 in a letter to the Irish Times defending protesters objecting to a Holocaust denier being invited to debate at Trinity College, Dublin
     

    Phooey. Equating a desire to return to the nominal conservatism of the Reagan era plus a reassertion of border control/sovereignty is hardly fascism. The biggest threat of our era is the emerging totalitarianism of the left: they will not tolerate the continued existence of any nominally traditional western society. Expect a redoubling of their efforts this election cycle to ensure any assertion of a ‘national interest’ beyond proposition nation platitudes is “hate speech” & “xenophobia”

  76. @Neoconned
    Completely agree. It was a pyrrhic victory for the SJW/BLM/cultural marxists tonight.

    These people are going to hurt trump about as much as the hippies protesting hurt nixon.

    These people are going to hurt trump about as much as the hippies protesting hurt nixon.

    Hippies were apolitical.

  77. @jack o'fire
    How to blunt the rabble's strategy:
    Secure an area a few blocks from the venue, hire a reggae band. Free grape soda, veggie burgers, not dogs, kebabs and fried chicken. That'd probably work, not much different than using EBT's.

    Nope, we don’t want to blunt the rabble, we want to goad them into spazzing out. Trump needs to reschedule Chicago and choose the biggest venue possible, like Soldier Field.

    First thing that will happen is Rahm Emmanuel will try to block the rally. Trump can take him to court, and portray the Democrats as dirty tricksters.

    When Trump holds his rally the police presence will be _Massive_. The usual suspects will get into fights with the cops, and make Trump look good.

    While the cops are occupied, the rest of the usual suspects can loot to their hearts content. More good visuals for Trump.

  78. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    Cruz did even better than you suggest. He sided with MoveOn and BLM. Disgusting.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    Cruz didn't side with the protestors--his statement explicitly said the protesters were to blame. But then Cruz went on to overplay his hand and argue that Trump bore some responsibility for an alleged climate of violence at his campaign events. Cruz was trying to double dip and get some milage out of both the protestors and Trump.

    Even if true, the aftermath of events like this are not the time to go all nuancy and morally equivalent. Protestors shouting down campaign rallies and roughing up attendees is the core issue. Clarity is called for.
  79. Chicago lost its innocence tonight … just kidding.

  80. @Anon7
    I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago's minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority [sic] communities.

    The word is non-white.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Thank you for speak truth to power, o great one.
  81. @TangoMan
    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it's such a shame that you're not out there as the major-domo of a politician's campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.

    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it’s such a shame that you’re not out there as the major-domo of a politician’s campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate. . . .

    That’s too harsh. He’s trying to move things in the right direction, and you should respect that.

  82. @David In TN
    I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat. They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion.

    I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin.

    “I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat.”

    My dear David in TN, I was around back then too. The 1968 Chicago Leftist morons were not agitating against Hubert Humphrey, they agitated against the Vietnam War, and Humphrey, by being LBJ’s Vice President, appeared to the Left to be that war’s future “stay the course” guy.

    “They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion.”

    In 1968 the Left made the error of underestimating Nixon’s appeal, dismissed Nixon as a complete non-starter, so the Left just wrote him off. After all, following his 1962 defeat in California’s gubernatorial election, major liberal and conservative pundits had long written Nixon off. That’s why upon Americans’ election of Nixon, the Left was stunned, rebuked: in the Leftist worldview, his 1968 triumph should never have happened.

    “I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin.”

    That makes two of us.

    In my view, Mr. Trump did well to call off his Chicago rally. He avoided a larger mob contretemps that could only have provided Enemedia-Pravda with more fuel for their Trump Derangement Syndrome hysteria-mongering. He precluded any chance of his rally supporters flying off the handle – attacking the Leftists, which could have sunk his entire campaign. Mr. Trump showed restraint – which is precisely what his hysterical antagonists have accused Mr. Trump of lacking. He showed concern for the safety & security of all present – the safety of his supporters, the event and venue staff, and the Leftist wingnuts. He also prevented a scene in which some of the wingnuts might have gained the stage to shrill out a manifesto which would have handed the loons even more spotlight attention from Enemedia-Pravda that would have made first-rate YouTube fodder for his antagonists.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their “safe space” hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Olorin

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their “safe space” hypocrisy.
     
    Absolutely this.

    It would also be fun to dig around and find out which of the thugs' FB/Twitter streams refer to/peddle that hypocrisy prior to this election season.
    , @David In TN
    In 1968, the far-out left didn't care if Nixon won. Who did they think would win if Humphrey's candidacy was destroyed, Wallace?

    They underestimated Nixon in that they thought he would be easy to defeat in 1972. The current bunch of slime think these "protests" and future ones will destroy Trump's campaign.
    , @Big Bill
    The 1960s civil rights marches were organized in black churches. They coached the marchers on their ground game. Dress respectable. March peacefully. Be like Gandhi.

    The hysteric reaction by Southerners (and photos!) gave the marchers their moral power.

    Someone should be coaching the Trumpian rally attendees on the proper passive resistance techniques.

    A big speech by Trump counseling his people not to react with violence might do the trick. If a Trumpian gets too hot and starts yelling or fist-waving, he can be gently restrained by his fellow Trumpians. And pictures. Take plenty of pictures.
  83. @Jefferson
    "I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view"

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn't run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn’t run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    You are right; they are not. This is probably not coming from Chicago’s Black community.

  84. hippies (i confess to having been one) were not entirely apolitical. many got involved in local politics for things like free clinics, shelter for the homeless, etc. in fact, this helped get my head back on right, after discovering TANSTAAFL.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    hippies (i confess to having been one) were not entirely apolitical. many got involved in local politics for things like free clinics, shelter for the homeless, etc. in fact, this helped get my head back on right, after discovering TANSTAAFL.
     
    Dead or Airplane? Who were the real hippies?
  85. @Anonymous
    "rioters" "mob"

    If fascism could be defeated in debate, I assure you that it would never have happened, neither in Germany, nor in Italy, nor anywhere else. Those who recognised its threat at the time and tried to stop it were, I assume, also called “a mob”. Regrettably too many “fair-minded” people didn’t either try, or want to stop it, and, as I witnessed myself during the war, accommodated themselves when it took over.
    — Franz Frison, Irish Holocaust survivor, 12th December, 1988 in a letter to the Irish Times defending protesters objecting to a Holocaust denier being invited to debate at Trinity College, Dublin
     

    Great. Another low IQ pansy comparing Trump to Hitler.

    Yeah, those mobs in Chicago definitely halted a holocaust on American soil.

    Because we all know Trump’s planning genocide — just like Hitler!

    Beat it, fool.

  86. NC says:
    @27 year old
    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.

    I think the video loops of bloody cops and BLM guys throwing punches is going to cinch the nomination for sure. It completely reverses the narrative about Trump supporters being violent and intolerant, and they’re going to have to spin hard on this one. Chaotic pitched melee wouldn’t have benefited Trump nearly as much. Instead America got to see a coalition of freaks with mexican, rainbow and communist flags parade around tearing up his signs on primetime tv. And what Trump said about Bernie was that he wouldn’t have stepped back and let those women take the mic. You can spin it the way state it but cancelling an event where there are thousands of protesters at a venue that was always going to be hostile is a little different than handing your mic and rally over to a couple of dumb fat girls from BLM.

    • Replies: @schmenz
    The idiots at RT Today are already spinning it in favor of the protesters. Amazing, really. Here is Trump, the only candidate to speak fairly about Putin, and here is RT, dumping on Trump.

    I know they are clueless about racial tensions in the US but RT has really outdone themselves, shooting themselves in the foot like this.
  87. @Questioning the Narrative
    Hardcore SJW blacks disrupt a Trump rally and specifically claim to be Sanders supporters. Aren't they exactly the kind of Democrat least likely to support Sanders? They so famously stole his mic right out of his hands not that long ago...

    The whole situation seems awfully win-win for Hillary. I have read on this site that Soros is bankrolling both Hillary and BLM... is this his handwork?

    Actually, many young blacks vote for Sanders. It’s the older ones who monolithically support Hillary.

  88. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence….

    A huge part of the problem is that we’ve been attacked surreptitiously for so long. Overt violence against us works in our favor.

  89. @coyote
    hippies (i confess to having been one) were not entirely apolitical. many got involved in local politics for things like free clinics, shelter for the homeless, etc. in fact, this helped get my head back on right, after discovering TANSTAAFL.

    hippies (i confess to having been one) were not entirely apolitical. many got involved in local politics for things like free clinics, shelter for the homeless, etc. in fact, this helped get my head back on right, after discovering TANSTAAFL.

    Dead or Airplane? Who were the real hippies?

  90. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren’t even armed. What did people expect? It’s bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don’t see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.
     
    What? This sort of corruption is unimaginable in the South.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.
     
    In my district, the GOP caucused a full mile away from the DFL. Even better are those states which hold "open" primaries on different days.

    What would happen if these suppressed union members voted for Trump in the Democratic primary? Or are write-ins disallowed?

    In 1916, Illinois's women were allowed to vote for president, but not for governor. Some offices are too important to leave to amateurs!
    , @Obamadon_Imbecilis
    Voting for someone more reasonable? All the other candidates have made themselves look less reasonable than Trump by claiming that Trump deserved to have his event shut down by BLM thugs. Trump has many flaws, but at least he'll stand up for law and order on the most basic level, while his "reasonable" rivals are willing to side with these goons in order to signal their virtue.
    , @MarkinLA
    is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable.

    BS. That is your opinion. That now-frightened suburbanite realizes that what those on the right (that they have refused to listen to for fear of being a "racist") have been telling them for 20 years is true.
    , @AndrewR
    How is that possible?? And legal?
  91. @Alec Leamas
    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this "victory;" and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this “victory;” and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    The leftists succeeded because they had a large number of demonstrators due to the event being held in an auditorium on the campus of a publicly funded college. The University of Illinois.
    Your tax dollars at work!
    Donald Trump will have to hire off campus rally venues. Too many lefties and anti-white racists on certain college campuses. Trump’s team now must spend extra time planning these events.

    • Replies: @anon
    Given that this was a rally, and the point of a rally is to energize people who already support you, this was probably his most successful rally yet.
  92. @Anon7
    Interesting speculation, which I'm taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry, and there were marches with hundreds of thousands of people. Black Panthers, SDS, Weathermen, White Panthers, hippies, yippies, Chavez and the unions. Now, we'll have to add Muslims, too.

    I can't wait to see Trump's strategy!

    Interesting speculation, which I’m taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry . . . .

    The word is non-whites.

    • Replies: @Hail

    The word is non-whites.
     
    Or is it "Blacks"?

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.
  93. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Got back from the event an hour ago....media accounts of rioting seem over-hyped. Sure lots of feeble minded frothed up sociology majors plus a big contingent of other BLM, La Raza type agitators. If there were any scuffles, they must have happened after most folks left the venue or were far from the pavillion. Lots of chanting & hate stares from the SJW mob along the sidewalk but nothing more - at least before 7 pm. This is a likely preview of the Cleveland convention where Soros-funded haters will be bused in for portrayals as martyrs by the MSM.

    Given the leftist dominance of Chicago politics, UIC was a v risky choice of venue.... Way too damn easy for the opponents of free speech to get inside in large numbers (probably 300+ inside, mostly on the lower level). The days of peaceful, tradition-minded citizens being able to convene in a public, taxpayer-subsidized venue like the UIC pavillion are fading fast.....soon it will be necessary to have big ticket prices & ID-vetting. The encroachment by the CultMarx brigades means a certain end to norms of civility. Don't expect Bernie Sanders to disavow his supporters for interfering with an opponent's event. The Trump campaign hopefully got a big boost tonight, & at least the thuggish nature of the moveon.org cabal has been laid bare.

    Given the leftist dominance of Chicago politics, UIC was a v risky choice of venue…. Way too damn easy for the opponents of free speech to get inside in large numbers (probably 300+ inside, mostly on the lower level).

    It’s is difficult to eject 300 disruptors and protesters without looking bad on TV. Meaning our liberal TV media will only roll video that makes Trump and his security team looks bad. So unfortunately Trump’s team called it off. Yes it’s a cave in but Trump will be back there with a bigger and better rally at a venue that is less vulnerable.

    • Replies: @bomag

    a bigger and better rally at a venue that is less vulnerable.
     
    As in all things, we have to be careful where we go and with whom we associate.

    Borders.
  94. @wonderbread
    The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren't even armed. What did people expect? It's bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don't see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    What? This sort of corruption is unimaginable in the South.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Never heard of this--how do they know which way you voted, or is there no secret ballot in IL?
  95. @27 year old
    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.

    Trump won’t back down when some BLM protester jumps on the stage with him and tries to commandeer his microphone. That’s different from not putting the safety of people in the crowd at risk so that Trump can stand resolute. The people’s safety is not his to bargain with.

  96. @Olorin
    What makes you think Rahm was outside of the planning of it?

    If he had been he would have shouted it loud and long just to get the SJW/BLM/etc off his back.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    This was long in the organizing and had many UniParty elite funders behind it. MoveOn, BLM, FTP, various Mexican open borders groups.

    Are you aware that the current head of MoveOn is an Operation Exodus Russian Jew? Steve wrote about that phenomenon in December of 2015--7th I believe.

    His first LI-listed job was with "US Senator Barack Obama" in the summer of 2005.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyasheyman

    He apparently won his Soros Eagle Scout badge via Occupy:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/sheyman-schneider-illinois-congress-occupy

    Read that piece. It says a lot about how the Dems choose who to give campaign money to. "Organizing skills" translates as "access to those with the checkbooks."

    IL state rep Luis Gutierrez started assembling his open borders mob early last week, including Sin Fronteras, Fearless Undocumented Alliance, Muslim and black student unions from UIC, and more.

    http://progressillinois.com/news/content/2016/03/07/gutierrez-aldermen-invite-chicagoans-protest-trumps-rally-uic

    Even the freakin mainstream Methodists in Chicongo support these mobs:

    http://www.somosunpueblo.com/support.html

    And look at the list of allies of ICIRR (immigrant and refugee rights commission in IL):

    http://icirr.org/our-partners

    This stuff doesn't just happen, mouse. It's planned. By people. With interests. And access. And they coordinate with one another constantly. They have Facebook, they have e-mail, they tweet, they make phone calls, they do lunch, they send their kids to the same private schools. They further each others' careers.

    To think of Rahm Emanuel not having word of any of this is unbelievable.

    PS:
    http://discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=funder
    https://www.opensecrets.org/
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/MoveOn#Financial_contributors
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/the-progressive-movement-is-a-pr-front-for-rich-democrats/

  97. @Anonymous
    "rioters" "mob"

    If fascism could be defeated in debate, I assure you that it would never have happened, neither in Germany, nor in Italy, nor anywhere else. Those who recognised its threat at the time and tried to stop it were, I assume, also called “a mob”. Regrettably too many “fair-minded” people didn’t either try, or want to stop it, and, as I witnessed myself during the war, accommodated themselves when it took over.
    — Franz Frison, Irish Holocaust survivor, 12th December, 1988 in a letter to the Irish Times defending protesters objecting to a Holocaust denier being invited to debate at Trinity College, Dublin
     

    Stupid Franz Frison#52 didn’t get his chronology right. These leftist mobs existed already before and after WWI. The mob wasn’t a reaction against fascism, fascism was a reaction against the mob (fighting the mob by imitating its strategies).

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Franz ... A strong, celtic name.
    , @guest
    I do often wonder who it is people think the Browshirts were fighting in the streets. Little old ladies?
  98. @Clyde

    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this “victory;” and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.
     
    The leftists succeeded because they had a large number of demonstrators due to the event being held in an auditorium on the campus of a publicly funded college. The University of Illinois.
    Your tax dollars at work!
    Donald Trump will have to hire off campus rally venues. Too many lefties and anti-white racists on certain college campuses. Trump's team now must spend extra time planning these events.

    Given that this was a rally, and the point of a rally is to energize people who already support you, this was probably his most successful rally yet.

  99. @SFG
    You must be new here.

    Ha, hah, haa, so, we’re good, right SFG? These are strange times. So, Unity. But, I’ll be waiting for all you guys to make me laugh tomorrow! I want a laugh after a particularly hard night!

    If only punk rockers were still around from “back in the day” in London and NYC (Chicago…eh, not so much) to bring out some tunes about this Trump-rally-riot-retrograde-revolting-ridiculous-road show-crazy-town. Plus, I was sort of annoyed that the majority of people rioting (both sides) were college-age morons. Did ‘free-speech’ somehow not factor-in sometime during HS for these duffusses – how did they get in to college?…I thought ‘free speech,’ was also a standard SAT question? No wonder Finnish HS students are so much smarter than Chicago college students, perhaps many American college students!

    Next time: Trump needs to have baddass, Road Warrior-like guards with eyeliner and weird clothes, (maybe kilts and leatha, and studs!) as guards or grand-inquisitors, at his future rallies. Create secret, quixotic questions for attendees….and, if they mess up, don’t let them in, simple….kind of like “the Knights that say Ni!”

    This was all sooooooo contrived and planned. Conformism on the left (& GOP) is frightening “groupthink,” now, this should be a wake-up call to everyone. One would think these young agitators tonight would be fighting the Thought Police and Campus Police on their campuses policing them whether ‘Yes means Yes,’ and all those conformist things….kinda’ disparages the good name of a great band, Yes. Anyway, they should be advocating for free speech, peace, and “constructive conversation,” not acting like spoiled brats/nihilists/anarchists. Plus, now their mugs are on the internet forever.

    • Replies: @SFG
    We're good--we were never bad. I do wonder why you care why someone on the Internet likes you or not though. We're all pseudonyms anyway.

    More seriously, punk rockers lean sharply to the left and would be unlikely to bring out any tunes about all this.

    The free speech thing is interesting, and I think other commenters probably have a better sense of this than me. I think free speech is dead as a left-wing principle--since it's not really very right-wing, it's probably dead in the long term as soon as the older liberals who still believe in it die off. The left is more into 'safe spaces' and protecting the feelings of sacralized groups. Recall that 'hate speech' laws make racist, etc. speech in Europe actually illegal, whereas 'hate crimes' legislation only increases penalties for an existing crime.

    'Their mugs are on the internet forever' may be part of the problem--whereas before an argument with campus protesters would simply result in bad feelings, now they can take pictures, crowdsource your identity, and give you a 'racism' record that follows you around forever. But I can't claim the ubiquity of the permanent record is really what's making the kids so conformist--it makes sense to me intuitively, but for that I'd have to ask one of the young people here. For one thing, what made the left buy into the 'safe space' idea (a left-wing mirror of old right-wing ideas like blasphemy laws) I'm not sure. Consolidating their gains, I'd guess?

  100. The sad truth is that if you kept all blacks under 30 (gotta show driver’s license or other photo ID) out of the Trump rally there would have been minimal disruption inside the auditorium. Whatever disruptors got through could have been handled and ejected. But once the reach a critical mass like they did tonight inside the auditorium…..

  101. @Cagey Beast
    This is going to be a wild and crazy summer in the USA:

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/708467260373868544

    Justin Raimondo (om Twitter):
    Trump supporters: it’s time to organize defense squads

    Idle Twittering?

    Link to the origin of this “Trump defense squads” comment?

    • Replies: @Hail
    On further reflection, Raimondo himself is probably be the origin of this idea.

    His use of a colon suggested it might be a quotation from "Trump supporters," but it may instead be a plea addressed to them.
  102. I spent a lazy evening glued to cnn as they signaled subtly that something was being set up to show that Trump rallies were encouraging violence. Would love to see whatever replaced Journolist. Trump wisely sensed he was being set up and opted out. The experts were all in lockstep pretending this is Trump’s fault afterward anyway…The real question is: what tactics could Trump do to flip the media’s frame?… Outright pin the protests on Soros and call him out by name? Say Bernie cannot control his goons? Start disrupting Hillary speeches? Stick to a defense of free speech? It seems like the rallies are going to be taken off his table if he cannot police protesters. Shame, as they are outrageously entertaining to watch on youtube.
    Also…Obama skipping Nancy Reagan’s funeral today and instead giving an odd speech (where he sounded a little tipsy) at South by Southwest was amusing. Combined with him throwing the blame for Libya on Cameron, it makes me wonder if he is taking a little breakdown over the rise of Trump.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    An entertaining response would be pointing out that the group of thugs calling him a nazi are largely funded by a former snitch for the actual nazis, george soros. Or the people who read the ny times and call trump a fascist are reading a paper that has a large shareholder -who also loaned the times millions of dollars - with close family members involved in actual fascist political parties in Lebanon.

    Or even mentioing all of the innocent women and kids obama - with approval from hillary - has killed with drone strikes in the mid east. Or hillary' disaster in libya. Of course, saying mean words is a lot worse than murdering thousands of innocent people - because some redneck punching someone five decades younger is obviously due to trump's mean words, while starting wars and blowing away kids with indiscriminate drone strikes that a stanford study estimated killed forty eight civilians for every actual terrorist - including obama blowing away a 16 year old us citizen - has nothing to do with violence or inciting actual terrorists around the world to return the favor.

    , @IA

    The real question is: what tactics could Trump do to flip the media’s frame?
     
    Since they all blame Trump for being divisive I'd repeatedly remind people of Obama's "bring a gun to a knife fight" and "reward your friends, punish your enemies" and many more memorable quotes.

    I'd hammer away at "hater, bigot racist" routinely used to incite violence; comparing Trump and by extension his supporters to Hitler as incitement; and the $PLC labeling the FRC as a hate group which set off a near massacre. In fact, I'd ask why the $PLC is being used to indoctrinate government and military personnel.

    I would identify media and political opponents with incitement to such a degree that it becomes subliminal and unconscious in voters' minds. In other words, fight fire with fire.

  103. @ben tillman

    Interesting speculation, which I’m taking seriously. I remember the last time liberals and lefties and minorities were seriously threatened and angry . . . .
     
    The word is non-whites.

    The word is non-whites.

    Or is it “Blacks”?

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    I share your impression, but maybe Hispanics will get more serious as Trump gets closer to the nomination. This story came out before Trump decided to cancel his speech:

    A coalition of local Latino elected officials and leaders said Monday they are organizing a protest to counter Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's appearance at the University of Illinois at Chicago on Friday, while university faculty and students are objecting as well.

    Surrounded by supporters and local aldermen, Democratic U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Chicago said that the leaders are asking constituents to show up outside UIC Pavilion doors to express their opposition to Trump's candidacy.

    "We want to raise our voices because the city of Chicago has an incredibly proud tradition of being inclusive, of bringing people together," Gutierrez said. "And Mr. Trump has the tradition of division, of hatred, of bigotry, of prejudice. We are asking all of Chicago to stand up."

    Hispanic leaders across the country have been trying to draw attention to Trump's stance on immigration. He has said that, if elected, he will build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border — and try to make Mexico pay for it. He also has labeled Mexican immigrants as drug mules, rapists and criminals.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-donald-trump-rally-protest-uic-20160307-story.html
     
    I don't know why Trump doesn't make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that's why he's speaking to citizens. (This would differentiate him from Democratic candidates.)

    He should also make clear that the "big gate" in the wall would accept relatives who want to visit for a specific time. I wonder if some of the anxiety of Hispanic US citizens is over whether or not it would be difficult for them to see other family members and friends. Of course, Trump would also make clear that overstaying that "specific time" would result in fines, incarceration and deportation for breaking the law. And no more big gate for them.
    , @Daniel Williams

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.
     
    Even if Hispanics were the majority of the troublemakers at this event, we'd probably still pay more attention to the blacks. They're colorful clowns who capture our attention and captivate our imaginations.

    Hispanics quietly show up, hunker down, and increase in number and proportion each year. The meek will inherit the earth, you know.
  104. An interesting account from an attendee (non-white, he says). Also read the comments.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4a2bu9/what_really_happened_at_the_chicago_rally_my/

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    Excellent account. Another poster came along to back up story with mutliple photos and videos. He noticed the same thing I did during the tv coverage - a surprising amount of people not being intimidated by the thugs and not backing down. The best part has to be the bit about the black alderman and anti violence activist/pastor throwing a punch - albeit a girly windmill one - at a trump supporter on his way out.

    Link to picture:

    http://m.imgur.com/dcyN4ob?r

    This reminds me of how quickly reddit destroyed the narrative from the baltimore riots by that marxist rag trying to blame the red headed girl for starting it all, even going so far as to claim the purse he was trying to steal was his! These leftists have to hate that the mere mundanes can get the truth out on blogs and social media these days.

  105. iSteveFan says:

    Trump seems to have the support of a lot of veterans. Maybe it’s time for them to step up and help secure these events. Of course our media would instantly portray them as the Freikorps. But I think Trump’s rallies need to have some muscle. And I think the controlled use of such muscle would play well to a large swath of timid voters who think the lunatics are running the asylum, but are too fractured, afraid and unsure to do anything about it. I also think Trump would poach voters from Cruz and others in the primary if he had such supporters. I think even the cuckservatives would start to switch to Trump because everyone likes a winner, and they like a strong winner even more.

  106. I wonder if it will occur to the corporate media and the scumbag political class to lighten up on demonizing Trump.

  107. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps…

    Women should be mincing pie filling, as blacks are now. Homos, though, ought to be out front. Perhaps clearing the minefields. David Starr Jordan would approve.

  108. @Hail

    Justin Raimondo (om Twitter):
    Trump supporters: it's time to organize defense squads
     
    Idle Twittering?

    Link to the origin of this "Trump defense squads" comment?

    On further reflection, Raimondo himself is probably be the origin of this idea.

    His use of a colon suggested it might be a quotation from “Trump supporters,” but it may instead be a plea addressed to them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    His use of a colon...
     
    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write "his use of a colon"? I don't even want to think along those lines...
  109. @wonderbread
    The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren't even armed. What did people expect? It's bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don't see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    In my district, the GOP caucused a full mile away from the DFL. Even better are those states which hold “open” primaries on different days.

    What would happen if these suppressed union members voted for Trump in the Democratic primary? Or are write-ins disallowed?

    In 1916, Illinois’s women were allowed to vote for president, but not for governor. Some offices are too important to leave to amateurs!

  110. @Hail
    On further reflection, Raimondo himself is probably be the origin of this idea.

    His use of a colon suggested it might be a quotation from "Trump supporters," but it may instead be a plea addressed to them.

    His use of a colon…

    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write “his use of a colon”? I don’t even want to think along those lines…

    • Replies: @Clyde
    I get the reference to his disgusting proclivities.
    , @Hail

    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write “his use of a colon”?
     
    LOL.
  111. @Andrew E.
    Cruz did even better than you suggest. He sided with MoveOn and BLM. Disgusting.

    Cruz didn’t side with the protestors–his statement explicitly said the protesters were to blame. But then Cruz went on to overplay his hand and argue that Trump bore some responsibility for an alleged climate of violence at his campaign events. Cruz was trying to double dip and get some milage out of both the protestors and Trump.

    Even if true, the aftermath of events like this are not the time to go all nuancy and morally equivalent. Protestors shouting down campaign rallies and roughing up attendees is the core issue. Clarity is called for.

    • Replies: @Cloud of ProbMat
    Cruz started strong but then he had to start larping and try to lay blame on the God Emperor. He could have gone cool and above the fray, but instead had to go SJW just like a typical GOPe insider. For shame!
    , @Andrew E.
    Cruz is doubling down today. He is a traitor.
    , @guest
    So he said the protesters were to blame before he said Trump was to blame. My, how dignified.
  112. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence

    I think it will get us both.

  113. I was there tonight at Trump’s rally. Unbelievable shit show from the college protesters! Started fights with supporters, security, and cops. Completely out of control. Chicago PD had barely effective presence in the arena and led the crowd out straight into a gauntlet of screaming protestors outside. Blocked the route back to the train station and redirected everyone on a detour that went beyond the barricades. Total incompetence.

    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708385782755684353/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708545853770825728/photo/1

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Chicago PD had barely effective presence in the arena and led the crowd out straight into a gauntlet of screaming protestors outside. Blocked the route back to the train station and redirected everyone on a detour that went beyond the barricades. Total incompetence.
     
    Total incompetence . . .*ahem* . . .'incompetence' yes, that must be it. And who, pray, is the mayor of Chicago?
    , @Boomstick
    I doubt it was incompetence on the part of the Chicago PD. It served the purposes of the local politicians to have the local thugs shut the Trump rally down.

    The post-rally statements by Rahm and the Chicago PD were none too subtle about blaming Trump.
  114. [Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place.

    He says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not.]

    How would you know that, Kamran Siddiqui?

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    Is "Kamran" the alternative spelling of Cameron, for the cognitively challenged?
    , @FLgeezer
    >How would you know that Kamran Siddiqui?

    Please. No one wants to hear Kamran bray.
  115. @Reg Cæsar

    His use of a colon...
     
    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write "his use of a colon"? I don't even want to think along those lines...

    I get the reference to his disgusting proclivities.

  116. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    Clinton and Sanders must act decisively to denounce and expel the anti-democratic elements of the Democratic party. Or are they for electoral violence and disruption of democracy? No platform!

    I’m sure the MSM will be on it right away. Right. Away.

  117. @Boomstick
    Cruz didn't side with the protestors--his statement explicitly said the protesters were to blame. But then Cruz went on to overplay his hand and argue that Trump bore some responsibility for an alleged climate of violence at his campaign events. Cruz was trying to double dip and get some milage out of both the protestors and Trump.

    Even if true, the aftermath of events like this are not the time to go all nuancy and morally equivalent. Protestors shouting down campaign rallies and roughing up attendees is the core issue. Clarity is called for.

    Cruz started strong but then he had to start larping and try to lay blame on the God Emperor. He could have gone cool and above the fray, but instead had to go SJW just like a typical GOPe insider. For shame!

    • Replies: @Jimmy Docherty
    This comment reads like something fake that was spewed out by an Alt-Right phrase generator
    , @guest
    You know the stupidest that thing about it, and the reason Republicans will forevermore be the Outer Party, is that they're legitimizing a weapon that has been used and will be used on them over and over again. Not that they need the GOPe's credence, but they don't have to help.

    Remember when some reporter heard some guy who may or may not have said "Kill him!" in reference to Obama at a McCain rally in '08? That was a national news story. Heated rhetoric creating a toxic environment, or whatever they said. About McCain! Who wouldn't go after Obama's experience, let alone Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright. McCain, who unilaterally suspended his campaign over one of the biggest political issues in the last 30 years. Who might've strangled to death with his bare hands any campaign staffer who whispered anything about race.

    This man they tagged with an Unsafe Campaign Environment. They can tag it to anyone. Why play along? You only make it more plausible that only your side has those most horrifying of all political figures: "extremists."
  118. @Clyde

    Given the leftist dominance of Chicago politics, UIC was a v risky choice of venue…. Way too damn easy for the opponents of free speech to get inside in large numbers (probably 300+ inside, mostly on the lower level).
     
    It's is difficult to eject 300 disruptors and protesters without looking bad on TV. Meaning our liberal TV media will only roll video that makes Trump and his security team looks bad. So unfortunately Trump's team called it off. Yes it's a cave in but Trump will be back there with a bigger and better rally at a venue that is less vulnerable.

    a bigger and better rally at a venue that is less vulnerable.

    As in all things, we have to be careful where we go and with whom we associate.

    Borders.

  119. good that this happens, Trump should talk more about BLM than about mexican rapists.

  120. @wonderbread
    The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren't even armed. What did people expect? It's bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don't see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    Voting for someone more reasonable? All the other candidates have made themselves look less reasonable than Trump by claiming that Trump deserved to have his event shut down by BLM thugs. Trump has many flaws, but at least he’ll stand up for law and order on the most basic level, while his “reasonable” rivals are willing to side with these goons in order to signal their virtue.

  121. @Stogumber
    Stupid Franz Frison#52 didn't get his chronology right. These leftist mobs existed already before and after WWI. The mob wasn't a reaction against fascism, fascism was a reaction against the mob (fighting the mob by imitating its strategies).

    Franz … A strong, celtic name.

  122. I’ve seen some commenters saying that this makes Trump look weak. But if the police told him that trying to go ahead with the rally would lead to violence, then Trump had little choice. If he went ahead and violence ensued he’d be blamed. It’s one thing to let yourself be ejected from a stage when you have the means but not the will to prevent it (Bernie Sanders versus the shrieking Negresses of Black Lives Matter) but if you don’t have the means, a tactical withdrawal is in order. The only way to provide security in the absence of the police/National Guard is to provide it yourself in the form of an essentially private army. We’re not yet to that point (we may be by 2020). The obvious hatred and contempt that these “protesters” have for bedrock (white) America is so palpable that many on-the-fence voters in Florida and Ohio may decide that Trump is the better candidate (look at the enemies he makes).

    A Republican Convention set to nominate Donald Trump in Cleveland may have to be held in a pillbox. I wonder if the elected officials of Cleveland are considering asking the Republicans to hold it elsewhere to head off civil insurrection–will National Guard protection be necessary?

    I predict another record for iSteve postings!

  123. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    “A mistake to have children?”

    It’s a mistake to live in that shit hole….Chicago.

  124. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    Of course, you were right to have children.

    However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept."

    Just because a group of organizers exercising their first amendment right to assemble, albeit at an opposing candidate's rally and in a rowdy fasion, you think "the children" have to accept this "'painful truth"?
  125. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    Don’t feed the troll.

  126. Spotted myself in a Fox News photo lingering on the floor after they were trying to clear everyone out. Tonight was a total disgrace on the part of the protestors and the Chicago police department. They had very poor planning and sent a lot of Trump supporters out the exits straight into crowds of angry protestors.

  127. Neoconned [AKA "trumped"] says:
    @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    I spent a lazy evening glued to cnn as they signaled subtly that something was being set up to show that Trump rallies were encouraging violence. Would love to see whatever replaced Journolist. Trump wisely sensed he was being set up and opted out. The experts were all in lockstep pretending this is Trump’s fault afterward anyway...The real question is: what tactics could Trump do to flip the media’s frame?... Outright pin the protests on Soros and call him out by name? Say Bernie cannot control his goons? Start disrupting Hillary speeches? Stick to a defense of free speech? It seems like the rallies are going to be taken off his table if he cannot police protesters. Shame, as they are outrageously entertaining to watch on youtube.
    Also...Obama skipping Nancy Reagan’s funeral today and instead giving an odd speech (where he sounded a little tipsy) at South by Southwest was amusing. Combined with him throwing the blame for Libya on Cameron, it makes me wonder if he is taking a little breakdown over the rise of Trump.

    An entertaining response would be pointing out that the group of thugs calling him a nazi are largely funded by a former snitch for the actual nazis, george soros. Or the people who read the ny times and call trump a fascist are reading a paper that has a large shareholder -who also loaned the times millions of dollars – with close family members involved in actual fascist political parties in Lebanon.

    Or even mentioing all of the innocent women and kids obama – with approval from hillary – has killed with drone strikes in the mid east. Or hillary’ disaster in libya. Of course, saying mean words is a lot worse than murdering thousands of innocent people – because some redneck punching someone five decades younger is obviously due to trump’s mean words, while starting wars and blowing away kids with indiscriminate drone strikes that a stanford study estimated killed forty eight civilians for every actual terrorist – including obama blowing away a 16 year old us citizen – has nothing to do with violence or inciting actual terrorists around the world to return the favor.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Outstanding comment. I will use it on my misguided friends supporting Cruz, Bern, or Cankles.
  128. @anony-mouse
    If he had been he would have shouted it loud and long just to get the SJW/BLM/etc off his back.

    This was long in the organizing and had many UniParty elite funders behind it. MoveOn, BLM, FTP, various Mexican open borders groups.

    Are you aware that the current head of MoveOn is an Operation Exodus Russian Jew? Steve wrote about that phenomenon in December of 2015–7th I believe.

    His first LI-listed job was with “US Senator Barack Obama” in the summer of 2005.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyasheyman

    He apparently won his Soros Eagle Scout badge via Occupy:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/sheyman-schneider-illinois-congress-occupy

    Read that piece. It says a lot about how the Dems choose who to give campaign money to. “Organizing skills” translates as “access to those with the checkbooks.”

    IL state rep Luis Gutierrez started assembling his open borders mob early last week, including Sin Fronteras, Fearless Undocumented Alliance, Muslim and black student unions from UIC, and more.

    http://progressillinois.com/news/content/2016/03/07/gutierrez-aldermen-invite-chicagoans-protest-trumps-rally-uic

    Even the freakin mainstream Methodists in Chicongo support these mobs:

    http://www.somosunpueblo.com/support.html

    And look at the list of allies of ICIRR (immigrant and refugee rights commission in IL):

    http://icirr.org/our-partners

    This stuff doesn’t just happen, mouse. It’s planned. By people. With interests. And access. And they coordinate with one another constantly. They have Facebook, they have e-mail, they tweet, they make phone calls, they do lunch, they send their kids to the same private schools. They further each others’ careers.

    To think of Rahm Emanuel not having word of any of this is unbelievable.

    PS:
    http://discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=funder
    https://www.opensecrets.org/
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/MoveOn#Financial_contributors
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/the-progressive-movement-is-a-pr-front-for-rich-democrats/

  129. @Auntie Analogue

    "I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat."

     

    My dear David in TN, I was around back then too. The 1968 Chicago Leftist morons were not agitating against Hubert Humphrey, they agitated against the Vietnam War, and Humphrey, by being LBJ's Vice President, appeared to the Left to be that war's future "stay the course" guy.

    "They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion."
     
    In 1968 the Left made the error of underestimating Nixon's appeal, dismissed Nixon as a complete non-starter, so the Left just wrote him off. After all, following his 1962 defeat in California's gubernatorial election, major liberal and conservative pundits had long written Nixon off. That's why upon Americans' election of Nixon, the Left was stunned, rebuked: in the Leftist worldview, his 1968 triumph should never have happened.

    "I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin."

     

    That makes two of us.


    In my view, Mr. Trump did well to call off his Chicago rally. He avoided a larger mob contretemps that could only have provided Enemedia-Pravda with more fuel for their Trump Derangement Syndrome hysteria-mongering. He precluded any chance of his rally supporters flying off the handle - attacking the Leftists, which could have sunk his entire campaign. Mr. Trump showed restraint - which is precisely what his hysterical antagonists have accused Mr. Trump of lacking. He showed concern for the safety & security of all present - the safety of his supporters, the event and venue staff, and the Leftist wingnuts. He also prevented a scene in which some of the wingnuts might have gained the stage to shrill out a manifesto which would have handed the loons even more spotlight attention from Enemedia-Pravda that would have made first-rate YouTube fodder for his antagonists.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their "safe space" hypocrisy.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their “safe space” hypocrisy.

    Absolutely this.

    It would also be fun to dig around and find out which of the thugs’ FB/Twitter streams refer to/peddle that hypocrisy prior to this election season.

  130. @Anonymous
    What are you talking about? sanders faced this exact thing when he spoke at liberty university

    Check out Steve’s next post. You are mistaken.

  131. Neoconned [AKA "trumped"] says:
    @MG
    An interesting account from an attendee (non-white, he says). Also read the comments.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4a2bu9/what_really_happened_at_the_chicago_rally_my/

    Excellent account. Another poster came along to back up story with mutliple photos and videos. He noticed the same thing I did during the tv coverage – a surprising amount of people not being intimidated by the thugs and not backing down. The best part has to be the bit about the black alderman and anti violence activist/pastor throwing a punch – albeit a girly windmill one – at a trump supporter on his way out.

    Link to picture:

    View post on imgur.com

    This reminds me of how quickly reddit destroyed the narrative from the baltimore riots by that marxist rag trying to blame the red headed girl for starting it all, even going so far as to claim the purse he was trying to steal was his! These leftists have to hate that the mere mundanes can get the truth out on blogs and social media these days.

  132. @David In TN
    Indeed Nixon was elected that year but the protests were against Hubert Humphrey's Democratic Party and convention. By the way, Nixon had a motorcade in Chicago a few days later with no disruptions.

    I saw a CNN clip of the fracas, and I noticed that the protestors were chanting, “Bernie! Bernie!”

    CONSPIRACY THEORY: What if the protesters were really sent by the Hillary campaign in the hopes that Trump supporters would retaliate at a Bernie rally? That way, Hillary could pose as the ‘uniter’, the only one capable of ‘bringing us all together again’. It worked for Nixon in ’68. Back then, many people believed that Nixon was a washed up, establishment politician who had already lost too many races to be taken seriously. But after the Democratic Party convention, he was able to turn his boring, establishment image to his advantage, convincing people that he could restore ‘law and order’. (Of course, having George Wallace in the race stealing votes from Humphrey definitely helped as well.)

    We all know that the Clintons are devious and unethical enough to be capable of such a move. Makes you wonder …

  133. This sort of thing provides lots of good footage that can be useful in the fall. Trump has not been spending his money, so he ought have plenty for later. The MSM cannot refuse to sell it to him.

  134. [Kamran Siddiqui] says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not. We came in here and we wanted to shut this down. Because this is a great city and we don’t want to let that person in here.”

    That encapsulates the evil of turning over our countries to other races. They’ll repay us with hatred and contempt for us and our tradition of free speech, while claiming to represent “America” or whatever country they’ve landed in.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "They’ll repay us with hatred and contempt for us and our tradition of free speech, while claiming to represent “America” or whatever country they’ve landed in."

    You do realize that there were a number of anti-Trump protestors there who were "white". So, do these whites not represent America?
  135. @Cloud of ProbMat
    Cruz started strong but then he had to start larping and try to lay blame on the God Emperor. He could have gone cool and above the fray, but instead had to go SJW just like a typical GOPe insider. For shame!

    This comment reads like something fake that was spewed out by an Alt-Right phrase generator

  136. @Anon7
    I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago's minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    …blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view.

    Isn’t this the truth? It has been demonstrated as true throughout my lifetime, in all times and places, and I’m about ready to retire. Nothing new to see here.

  137. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Second City Cop reports:

    The media is downplaying the “protests” as isolated. It seems they aren’t broadcasting footage of the debris being thrown across Harrison by Sanders/Hillary supporters at Trump fans.

    They also aren’t mentioning the hordes running through the UIC parking structure breaking the windows of cars with Trump 2016 stickers.

    We haven’t seen any mention of the Eisenhower takeover, nor the Incident Team call-outs from assorted Districts.

    It’s almost like they’re ashamed that the UIC tradition of supporting leftist terrorists (Ayers and his spawn) has come home to roost.

    Last report was at least two cops needed numerous stitches to close up wounds. A speedy recovery to the injured.

    • Replies: @FactsAreImportant
    Whoa!

    Pics of these incidents would be a game changer. Any idea if there are any pics? Did any attendees take any pictures? The people who got their windows smashed, did they take pictures? Are police reports available?

    Here is a picture of an injured cop.

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K_odCknfWTM/VuO7gA1yZXI/AAAAAAAAE1A/L70tPZ5jKhYmEX_ltbWQ-vGW4uRoHXo0A/s1600/Protest%2B2.jpg

    Here is a great video of a "protestor" apparently shooting an assault rifle in celebration.

    https://twitter.com/RUthIess187/status/708482144943734784

  138. @Reg Cæsar
    I can't keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not.

    Any coward can talk trash on the internet.

  139. Apparently JFK quotes make Sailer clutch his pearls.

    I repeat: those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

  140. I ambled over to the link to Mr. Quovadis Green. (I am guessing that his mama was as bat shit crazy as all the others who saddle their offspring with monikers like these; but perhaps just a little more literate; or maybe she just saw the movie title in TV Guide.)

    This site could serve as an eye-opener for many clueless Whites. Mr. Green shows up as a thug in a really flashy set of duds; the kind of guy who provides the non-Negro owners of clothing stores catering to Negroes, with quite reasonable incomes, even allowing for the high rates of inventory shrinkage involved. The others pictured on the page were your usual sort of Negro grifter-politicians. It is impossible to parody these sorts of people without descending into surreal depths that most would define as a kind of racism. I see no long term hope for the majority of the Negro race in the USA if we are serious about remaining a constitutional, democratic republic.

  141. @22pp22
    Of course, you were right to have children.

    However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept.

    “However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept.”

    Just because a group of organizers exercising their first amendment right to assemble, albeit at an opposing candidate’s rally and in a rowdy fasion, you think “the children” have to accept this “‘painful truth”?

    • Replies: @22pp22
    Last time I visited the US, large chunks of had been lost to Mexico demographically. You need to hang on to what's left while you still can.
  142. @Rob McX

    [Kamran Siddiqui] says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not. We came in here and we wanted to shut this down. Because this is a great city and we don’t want to let that person in here.”
     
    That encapsulates the evil of turning over our countries to other races. They'll repay us with hatred and contempt for us and our tradition of free speech, while claiming to represent "America" or whatever country they've landed in.

    “They’ll repay us with hatred and contempt for us and our tradition of free speech, while claiming to represent “America” or whatever country they’ve landed in.”

    You do realize that there were a number of anti-Trump protestors there who were “white”. So, do these whites not represent America?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I know. But when non-whites become the majority, their interests will trump those of whites because, besides the fact of their superior numbers, non-whites are ethnocentric and race-conscious. The white liberals who ally themselves with them are fools who believe in racial equality - a delusion not shared by other races.
  143. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    It’s a mistake not to have more children. Keep them away from public schools.

  144. @Paul Kersey
    Trump just got elected tonight.

    Truth. He can start measuring for Oval Office drapes forthwith. Every time LaRaza/Occupy/MoveOn/BLM shows up his poll numbers among middle and working class typical white people will bump up. Keep it up. Keep reminding the people Trump needs to win that a whole host of leftists with their hands out 24/7 oppose him. In Chicago of all places, The One’s utterly dysfunctional home turf. Keep doing what your doing, you damn silly fools.

  145. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    Have children, just don’t take them to political rallies/riots.

    You will need children to pass on your culture and religion, to give you grandbabies to entertain you in your dotage, and to care for you when you are old.

    And the best part is they are so easy and fun to make!

  146. @Auntie Analogue

    "I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat."

     

    My dear David in TN, I was around back then too. The 1968 Chicago Leftist morons were not agitating against Hubert Humphrey, they agitated against the Vietnam War, and Humphrey, by being LBJ's Vice President, appeared to the Left to be that war's future "stay the course" guy.

    "They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion."
     
    In 1968 the Left made the error of underestimating Nixon's appeal, dismissed Nixon as a complete non-starter, so the Left just wrote him off. After all, following his 1962 defeat in California's gubernatorial election, major liberal and conservative pundits had long written Nixon off. That's why upon Americans' election of Nixon, the Left was stunned, rebuked: in the Leftist worldview, his 1968 triumph should never have happened.

    "I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin."

     

    That makes two of us.


    In my view, Mr. Trump did well to call off his Chicago rally. He avoided a larger mob contretemps that could only have provided Enemedia-Pravda with more fuel for their Trump Derangement Syndrome hysteria-mongering. He precluded any chance of his rally supporters flying off the handle - attacking the Leftists, which could have sunk his entire campaign. Mr. Trump showed restraint - which is precisely what his hysterical antagonists have accused Mr. Trump of lacking. He showed concern for the safety & security of all present - the safety of his supporters, the event and venue staff, and the Leftist wingnuts. He also prevented a scene in which some of the wingnuts might have gained the stage to shrill out a manifesto which would have handed the loons even more spotlight attention from Enemedia-Pravda that would have made first-rate YouTube fodder for his antagonists.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their "safe space" hypocrisy.

    In 1968, the far-out left didn’t care if Nixon won. Who did they think would win if Humphrey’s candidacy was destroyed, Wallace?

    They underestimated Nixon in that they thought he would be easy to defeat in 1972. The current bunch of slime think these “protests” and future ones will destroy Trump’s campaign.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    The presidential election of 1968 was one of the most chaotic in American history, reflecting a time that was in many ways equally chaotic.
    At the beginning of the election season, President Lyndon Johnson was the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, and as a sitting president, he should have won his party's nomination without any trouble. But growing opposition to the war in Vietnam, unrest on college campuses, and urban rioting, made him vulnerable. In November 1967, Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota announced that he would seek the Democratic nomination, and that ending the Vietnam War was his central issue.

    McCarthy mobilized hundreds of student volunteers, who went "clean for Gene," cutting their hair and going door-to-door for him in New Hampshire, home of the nation's first primary election. The effort paid off and in March 1968, McCarthy shocked the political world by winning 42 percent of the vote. He did not win the primary, but the size of his support was a defeat to Johnson. Sensing Johnson's vulnerability, Senator Robert F. Kennedy of New York entered the race for the Democratic nomination. That, along with renewed opposition to the war in light of the North Vietnamese Tet offensive, prompted President Johnson to announce that he was not running for re-election.

    In response, Vice President Hubert Humphrey entered the race, but it was too late to run in the primaries. He would have to win delegate support at the nominating convention in Chicago that summer. In the meantime, Kennedy quickly gained immense popularity in the race, carrying primaries in Indiana and Nebraska. But McCarthy did not give up, winning contests in Wisconsin and Oregon. Then, Kennedy won the climatic primary in California and was within reach of securing the Democratic nomination. But as he walked off the stage after giving his victory speech in a Los Angles hotel, Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, an Arab nationalist angry about Kennedy's support of Israel. Coming on the heels of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., it contributed to a sense that things were spinning out of control.

    Kennedy's assassination strengthened Humphrey's bid for the Democratic nomination, and by late August, Humphrey controlled the majority of delegates to the Democratic Convention. That was not surprising, even though Humphrey supported Johnson's Vietnam policy, as he was respected by Democratic leaders and had a solid liberal record on domestic issues.

    Several thousand students and anti-war activists descended on the Democratic Convention in Chicago to pressure delegates into repudiating Johnson's Vietnam policy. In the tense atmosphere that resulted, protestors were beaten by the Chicago police, and the chaos entered the convention hall as the proceedings at times were out of control. In the end, Humphrey received the nomination from an embattled party.

    http://www.pbs.org/johngardner/chapters/5a.html

    I was fresh out of the army in the summer of '68. I was not there but I was rooting for the protesters, many of whom were vets.
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Like underestimating Nixon, in their bubble no one likes Trump. My social media is full of anti-Trumpery. My friends and peers are the upwardly mobile administrative class of the oligarchy -MBAs and JDs, Democratic and Republican. They smirk and smirk, loathe and loathe... But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.
    One college friend called and said, "please tell me you're writing a book about this "moment in history"
    I told him to fuck off. Books and reasoned arguments have been dismissed by you respectable people. Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers
    He can't tell if I'm serious...
  147. @celt darnell
    Disagree.

    This was not a victory for Trump -- just as Bernie Sanders being pushed aside by the BLM scum at his own rally looked bad for Bernie, this looks bad for Trump.

    The media is going to spin this as the defeat of a loudmouthed coward. We've already got one commentator in here making that claim -- Bbhj (who has never committed a single act of courage in his life).

    I can even see them selling this as the 99% standing up to the 1% -- they are that dishonest.

    Trump has been tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.

    That mangina Barack Obama will be crowing about this tomorrow, too.

    Whether or not Trump gets to the White House or not depends on how he reacts to and deals with this.

    But it can't happen again, or Trump's toast.

    You are out of your mind, son. What was Trump supposed to do? Go on with the rally and guarantee mass violence in the audience? Hundreds of protesters were already in the building waiting for a fight. Imagine if he had gone on and you had thousands of people fighting in the audience.

    Trump did the only sensible thing. He needs to put the blame on Chicago and UIC police if they haven’t already accepted responsibility for the shitshow.

    This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters. There was no potential for mass violence.

    • Replies: @celt darnell
    Out of my mind? If you say so.

    My point was optics and how the media would play this. I had no intention of playing Sunday morning (or Saturday morning) quarterback. I didn't suggest Trump had any alternative beyond, perhaps, being prepared for something like this (although hindsight is always 20-20).

    And I stand by my point that this was a defeat for Trump and one that he cannot allow to happen again.

    You note "This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters." Agreed. Unfortunately, Trump's comment from August that he wouldn't allow the BLM do to him what they did to Bernie is being gleefully and repeatedly quoted.

    Chicago and UIC police, meanwhile, will escape unscathed. Because this fiasco will be portrayed as Trump's own fault. This is what the media is doing -- with help from some others (yes, Mr. Cruz, I am referring to you).

    It's also a bit late to whine about violence when the other side has made it perfectly clear that that is the route they are going to take.

    This was a defeat for Trump. He cannot allow himself to be intimidated like this again. End of story.
  148. @Anonymous
    So much for Trump's claim that he'd never cede the microphone to BLM and would fight back. What a weakling

    I hope a Trump supporter got a well deserved beating

    Racism and hatred has no place in the a new society

    a) why does Sailer allow troll comments like this when he’s such a puritan about non-troll comments discussing violence

    b) why do people respond

    • Replies: @Bert
    a) It makes things more interesting

    b) It's a useful tool to separate the good readers from the braindead autistic spergs who insist on taking obvious bait
    , @Hunsdon
    Why do you complain so much about your posts that don't get approved? If one of my comments gets blocked, I either a) let it go, or b) reword it in a way that will be more likely to get through.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Think about it for awhile, and you may understand why.
  149. @David In TN
    Well, I hope so, but I'm not sure. A good many timid, afraid-to-offend white Americans will follow the media's lead and blame Trump. I hope not, but I've learned to be pessimistic about people "waking up."

    I agree with your skepticism David, but I think there is reason to be cautiously optimistic. Events are unfolding in America that are making it clear to all but the most obtuse that our nation is in serious trouble and that our leaders are corrupt. Trump, for all his faults, is a breath of fresh air to the lies and stench that define our current “Republic.” And as Paul Kersey says, no better advertisement for Trump than to see the scum out in force shutting down his rallies and suppressing free speech. Time to choose sides. If you are white and you vote for either Hillary or Bernie you are beyond redemption.

  150. @27 year old
    The troll does have something though. Trump made a big point to say he would not back down, and yet, he backed down.

    Please sir, don’t be ridiculous. Trump didn’t back down. He simply postponed the rally so that no more innocent people would get hurt. That was the right thing to do in this case.

    I’ve noticed that there are always a few Trump supporters who panic and want to jump off the train any time Trump does something that they think makes him look weak. They need to realize that the real world doesn’t work that way. In politics, business, and battle, the situation is constantly changing and you may have to retreat or abandon a position from time to time. That doesn’t mean that you’re weak, or that you’re losing the campaign; it just means you’re making some tactical revisions and keeping the big picture in focus. Trump would not have gained anything by keeping his supporters (and the police!) in danger. A small-minded, egotistical man would have gone ahead with the rally to puff himself up and been heedless of the danger he was forcing others to accept. Trump is not like that. He is the very opposite of the egotist his detractors claim him to be.

    Both the country and the Trump campaign would be better served if some of his more excitable supporters would learn to man up themselves and knock off the “let’s you and him fight” stuff.

    • Agree: Daniel Williams
  151. This is not a surprise. But it should make clear what is at stake in the current election. The elites by an overwhelming majority conspire to destroy Trump while the leftist scum rampage and trample all of our freedoms with the same goal in mind. Their vision of the future is not, I think, the vision that the founders of our Republic had in mind.

    Time to choose sides. Trump represents our best hope to stop the destruction of our Republic before it is too late. We are a divided nation with the left and the elites on one side of the equation. Only one side can win in its vision for the future and Trump, with his implicit love of country and its people, is my man, for all his faults.

  152. @Neoconned
    I think trump completely knew this exact same thing would happen. Even little marco is defending trump (for the most part) on foxnews now.
  153. @Cagey Beast
    This is going to be a wild and crazy summer in the USA:

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/708467260373868544

    Could we might have some rioting like theHough riots in Cleveland who happened 50 years ago?

  154. @ben tillman

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority [sic] communities.
     
    The word is non-white.

    Thank you for speak truth to power, o great one.

  155. @anony-mouse
    I doubt this is going to make anyone here even a little sympathetic with what Rahm has to go through every day. It should but it won't.

    Feel bad for him? These leftists are Rahm’s people. He might not like it when they block traffic downtown but he is firmly on their side.

  156. @Alec Leamas
    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this "victory;" and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    Time to re-read Mau Mauing the flack Checkers by Tom Wolfe. Confrontation is precisely what these tax subsidized protesters against the first amendment the right to peaceable assemble are trying to provoke.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    In the words of that Chicagoan Saul Alinsky: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
  157. I may be incorrect, but violent disruption of opposition party political rallies is the definition of fascism, no?

  158. @David In TN
    In 1968, the far-out left didn't care if Nixon won. Who did they think would win if Humphrey's candidacy was destroyed, Wallace?

    They underestimated Nixon in that they thought he would be easy to defeat in 1972. The current bunch of slime think these "protests" and future ones will destroy Trump's campaign.

    The presidential election of 1968 was one of the most chaotic in American history, reflecting a time that was in many ways equally chaotic.
    At the beginning of the election season, President Lyndon Johnson was the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, and as a sitting president, he should have won his party’s nomination without any trouble. But growing opposition to the war in Vietnam, unrest on college campuses, and urban rioting, made him vulnerable. In November 1967, Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota announced that he would seek the Democratic nomination, and that ending the Vietnam War was his central issue.

    McCarthy mobilized hundreds of student volunteers, who went “clean for Gene,” cutting their hair and going door-to-door for him in New Hampshire, home of the nation’s first primary election. The effort paid off and in March 1968, McCarthy shocked the political world by winning 42 percent of the vote. He did not win the primary, but the size of his support was a defeat to Johnson. Sensing Johnson’s vulnerability, Senator Robert F. Kennedy of New York entered the race for the Democratic nomination. That, along with renewed opposition to the war in light of the North Vietnamese Tet offensive, prompted President Johnson to announce that he was not running for re-election.

    In response, Vice President Hubert Humphrey entered the race, but it was too late to run in the primaries. He would have to win delegate support at the nominating convention in Chicago that summer. In the meantime, Kennedy quickly gained immense popularity in the race, carrying primaries in Indiana and Nebraska. But McCarthy did not give up, winning contests in Wisconsin and Oregon. Then, Kennedy won the climatic primary in California and was within reach of securing the Democratic nomination. But as he walked off the stage after giving his victory speech in a Los Angles hotel, Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, an Arab nationalist angry about Kennedy’s support of Israel. Coming on the heels of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., it contributed to a sense that things were spinning out of control.

    Kennedy’s assassination strengthened Humphrey’s bid for the Democratic nomination, and by late August, Humphrey controlled the majority of delegates to the Democratic Convention. That was not surprising, even though Humphrey supported Johnson’s Vietnam policy, as he was respected by Democratic leaders and had a solid liberal record on domestic issues.

    Several thousand students and anti-war activists descended on the Democratic Convention in Chicago to pressure delegates into repudiating Johnson’s Vietnam policy. In the tense atmosphere that resulted, protestors were beaten by the Chicago police, and the chaos entered the convention hall as the proceedings at times were out of control. In the end, Humphrey received the nomination from an embattled party.

    http://www.pbs.org/johngardner/chapters/5a.html

    I was fresh out of the army in the summer of ’68. I was not there but I was rooting for the protesters, many of whom were vets.

  159. @SDMatt
    Well this is what the election is all about: do you want this Mexican, Black, and useful idiot mob to run the country, or do you want your country back? (CNN blames the victim, naturally, and suggests Trump bow down to the mob).

    I love the close-ups of the enraged lefties. They remind me of the famous 1960s school desegregation photos: sweet little black girls in nice dresses walking peacefully to school in their Sunday dresses, heads held high, with a surging mob of angry adults barely held back by National Guardsmen. The contrast of civility and rage shocked the entire nation.

    Contra Justin, Trump does not need (or want) Brownshirts. He wants his supporters to act confident and peaceful. He wants photo-ops of enraged psycho activist leftist NAMs barely held back by a thin blue line. The more paranoid nutcases that Soros flushes out into the streets, the more mini-Fergusons he generates, the better.

    Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please.

    One thing is sure: with Soros funding more mini-Fergusons there will be plenty of opportunity for months.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    "Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please."

    Exactly. If Trump were the "fascist" his critics say he is, he'd already have a private militia, like Mussolini's black-shirts or Oswald Mosley's "biff boys." He doesn't, and won't.

    This said, there's something very tempting about the Italian fascisti's method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one's gullet, so they'd have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result - and highly symbolic, too.
  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This seems like a golden opportunity to hang the BLM movement around the neck of the Democratic party and promote the Sailer Strategy. If you recall the main point of the Strategy is to subtly acknowledge that the Dems are the “black party” and force people to implicitly choose between the white and black parties. Anyone have an idea about what tactics the Trump people could use here?

  161. @WorkingClass
    Obviously Trump was not prepared for this. It's to his credit that he pulled the plug before the blood began to flow. Rahm should be ready next time with National Guard and water cannon.

    You think ((Rahm Emmanuel)) is going to bring out the dogs and fire hoses to allow Trump a platform to speak?????? Ha…

  162. Typical leftist terrorist tactics. Using force to get what they want while being protected by the state.

  163. @Anonymous
    What are you talking about? sanders faced this exact thing when he spoke at liberty university

    I don’t understand your point. There is no similarity whatsoever between Sander’s successful hour-long speech at Liberty University and Trump’s abortive attempt at public speaking in Chicago, which was prevented by a mixture of white liberal feminists and black and hispanic activists (all of the people who’d stand to lose the most under a Trump presidency).

    But what was striking wasn’t the majority of students who lacked enthusiasm for this most liberal candidate in the presidential race, but the few among them who came wearing Bernie T-shirts and brandishing handmade signs. For Liberty University, like most schools, is composed of a self-selected student body and faculty. It’s unlikely that many high school seniors who consider themselves liberal or leftist would apply.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-spoke-at-jerry-falwells-college-heres-the-reaction-he-got/

    Liberty University’s student body attended because attendance was mandatory for all students; they were obedient and polite. And if your point is that “freedom of speech” is a concept that is mostly understood and honored by northern European-heritage males, I’d say “Well, obviously”.

  164. I would like to think that something called ‘Kamran Siddiqui’ saying “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not. We came in here and we wanted to shut this down. ” will garner Trump many, many votes from real Americans.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    I would like to think that something called ‘Kamran Siddiqui’ saying “Trump represents everything America is not ...” will garner Trump many, many votes from real Americans.
     
    What, you don't like getting lectured by a Lovecraft deity?

    I hear that Shub-Niggurath, The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, is (unsurprisingly) endorsing Bernie.
  165. @Auntie Analogue

    "I was around back then and remember the 1968 election very well. It was Humphrey the far-left protesters were out to defeat."

     

    My dear David in TN, I was around back then too. The 1968 Chicago Leftist morons were not agitating against Hubert Humphrey, they agitated against the Vietnam War, and Humphrey, by being LBJ's Vice President, appeared to the Left to be that war's future "stay the course" guy.

    "They made little attempt to disrupt Nixon in similar fashion."
     
    In 1968 the Left made the error of underestimating Nixon's appeal, dismissed Nixon as a complete non-starter, so the Left just wrote him off. After all, following his 1962 defeat in California's gubernatorial election, major liberal and conservative pundits had long written Nixon off. That's why upon Americans' election of Nixon, the Left was stunned, rebuked: in the Leftist worldview, his 1968 triumph should never have happened.

    "I hope Trump is helped by the actions of these vermin."

     

    That makes two of us.


    In my view, Mr. Trump did well to call off his Chicago rally. He avoided a larger mob contretemps that could only have provided Enemedia-Pravda with more fuel for their Trump Derangement Syndrome hysteria-mongering. He precluded any chance of his rally supporters flying off the handle - attacking the Leftists, which could have sunk his entire campaign. Mr. Trump showed restraint - which is precisely what his hysterical antagonists have accused Mr. Trump of lacking. He showed concern for the safety & security of all present - the safety of his supporters, the event and venue staff, and the Leftist wingnuts. He also prevented a scene in which some of the wingnuts might have gained the stage to shrill out a manifesto which would have handed the loons even more spotlight attention from Enemedia-Pravda that would have made first-rate YouTube fodder for his antagonists.

    Mr. Trump needs now to turn this around on the Left-lib-proglodytes by mocking their "safe space" hypocrisy.

    The 1960s civil rights marches were organized in black churches. They coached the marchers on their ground game. Dress respectable. March peacefully. Be like Gandhi.

    The hysteric reaction by Southerners (and photos!) gave the marchers their moral power.

    Someone should be coaching the Trumpian rally attendees on the proper passive resistance techniques.

    A big speech by Trump counseling his people not to react with violence might do the trick. If a Trumpian gets too hot and starts yelling or fist-waving, he can be gently restrained by his fellow Trumpians. And pictures. Take plenty of pictures.

  166. This is a de-platforming campaign. Considering the success of de-platforming on campuses in providing administrations with the excuse to ban a speaker “for security concerns”, this latest attack seems to me to have a serious chance of wounding the Trump campaign by blocking its most effective means of connecting to the public: the big boisterous rally.

  167. To those saying this will hurt Trump, I complete disagree.

    The media’s spin narrative – that it is Trump’s abrasive rhetoric to blame – only goes so far here. When viewers tune in, they see the leftist mob attacking cops, storming the streets. Just like Ferguson. That visceral image is far more powerful than the spin that talking heads put on it.

    Consider that for the past two Tuesday primary cycles, we’ve had the same pattern: a Thursday debate where Trump gets savaged by Cruz/Rubio, followed by a weekend of media-spun narrative designed to brand Trump negatively. Before Super Tuesday, we was a KKK-sympathizer. Last weekend, he was the reincarnation of Hitler.

    This time, he does well at the debate. He gets Carson’s endorsement. Then, the BLM mob shuts down his rally. Now, that will dominate the media coverage this weekend. At the 3-D level, think about the underlying message this sends to viewers at home:

    -that the BLM/leftist mob is trying to stop Trump, so he must be the true threat to leftism
    -that he’s inevitable – the mob is protesting him in part because he is going to win

    I try not to make the mistake of equating Twitter with reality, but I have noticed a considerable number of people on Twitter stating that they are switching from Cruz to Trump, or from not voting to voting for Trump, after the events of last night. May or may not be indicative of something. But for what it’s worth.

    I think Trump has FL in the bag (regardless of these events)
    I think he has NC in the bag as well, although since NC allocates delegates proportionally, that doesn’t matter as much.
    I think OH is a toss up – but I find it curious that they haven’t conducted any polls in the wake of the Michigan results. All of the OH polls were conducted prior to that. And the last poll that was released – Fox News showing Kasich by 5 – was out of line with all of the others.
    I think the events of yesterday will give Trump a boost in IL and MO, but I still expect these states to be close

  168. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    You can always move to a place that is inconvenient to live.

    Whether you want to buy into Derb’s Ice People and Sun People divide, or you believe we originated in Arctic Thule, or anything more sensible, I think it remains the case that places high in elevation, high in latitude, or barren and open will remain civilized much longer than the rest of the country…

  169. @anony-mouse
    I doubt this is going to make anyone here even a little sympathetic with what Rahm has to go through every day. It should but it won't.

    Rahm doesn’t have to be in Chicago. In fact, as an Israeli patriot and citizen, he doesn’t have to be in the US at all.

  170. @Alec Leamas
    What is going to happen from here? I predict that, a) Leftists will seek to replicate this "victory;" and, b) a series of Hard Hat Riots in and around Trump events, where his supporters (blue collar whites) engage physically with the agitators.

    I agree. Trump should have stood up to the protesters, let a little violence happen, then put it all on Bernie Sanders since they were Bernie supporters. He should have called on Bernie to denounce the protests as anti-free-speech and violent.

    He had a chance to drive a wedge either between a candidate and his supporters or between a campaign and the public, and instead he took the option of appearing weak and inviting more challenges.

    Furthermore, putting off the violence only means when it happens, it’s going to be that much worse.

    Actually, his judgement in this situation makes me worry a little bit about him as a president…

  171. Guys,

    The event last night was obviously canceled because the Secret Service deemed it a threat level they couldn’t contain.

    Those protesters were out for blood and would have stormed the stage, forcing the SS to protect Trump.

    Trump won a huge victory last night.

    Trust me: his campaign will use the image/video of the bloodied cop as the new Willie Horton ad come general election time.

  172. @Anonymous
    I may be wrong on this, but I think that being a beat journalist skews young. And anyone beneath a certain age (~35ish) knows the KotH reference.
    Sailer has frequently mentioned that it's his suspicion that many journos read him, or at least would broadly agree with his overall tenor, but that to openly say so would be to CimeThink.
    I'd wager a paycheck that the beat reporter assigned this story *knew beyond doubt* what Rusty Shackleford was/meant. And it makes it more telling. Compare eg "An unnamed 19 year old" to "Rusty Shackleford". "Unnamed"=He gave me a false name but Shackleford= "He gave me a false name, and I can appreciate why".
    I'd bet this reporter may, too, be a closet MAGA'er, using the Nom de Guerre intentionally as a way of, so to speak, "blinking SOS"

    You know, some people who don’t read iSteve probably get the Rusty Shackleford reference. It was, after all, a popular TV show for a long time.

  173. @WorkingClass
    Obviously Trump was not prepared for this. It's to his credit that he pulled the plug before the blood began to flow. Rahm should be ready next time with National Guard and water cannon.

    Rahm doesn’t have to be in Chicago. In fact, as an Israeli patriot and citizen, he doesn’t have to be in the US at all.

  174. @Hail

    The word is non-whites.
     
    Or is it "Blacks"?

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.

    I share your impression, but maybe Hispanics will get more serious as Trump gets closer to the nomination. This story came out before Trump decided to cancel his speech:

    A coalition of local Latino elected officials and leaders said Monday they are organizing a protest to counter Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s appearance at the University of Illinois at Chicago on Friday, while university faculty and students are objecting as well.

    Surrounded by supporters and local aldermen, Democratic U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Chicago said that the leaders are asking constituents to show up outside UIC Pavilion doors to express their opposition to Trump’s candidacy.

    “We want to raise our voices because the city of Chicago has an incredibly proud tradition of being inclusive, of bringing people together,” Gutierrez said. “And Mr. Trump has the tradition of division, of hatred, of bigotry, of prejudice. We are asking all of Chicago to stand up.”

    Hispanic leaders across the country have been trying to draw attention to Trump’s stance on immigration. He has said that, if elected, he will build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border — and try to make Mexico pay for it. He also has labeled Mexican immigrants as drug mules, rapists and criminals.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-donald-trump-rally-protest-uic-20160307-story.html

    I don’t know why Trump doesn’t make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that’s why he’s speaking to citizens. (This would differentiate him from Democratic candidates.)

    He should also make clear that the “big gate” in the wall would accept relatives who want to visit for a specific time. I wonder if some of the anxiety of Hispanic US citizens is over whether or not it would be difficult for them to see other family members and friends. Of course, Trump would also make clear that overstaying that “specific time” would result in fines, incarceration and deportation for breaking the law. And no more big gate for them.

    • Replies: @Hail

    I don’t know why Trump doesn’t make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that’s why he’s speaking to citizens.
     
    Is he speaking to U.S. citizens? That is debatable.

    I see the entire Trump appeal as at once nationalist and internationalist, that is to say pro-Western, which we see in his constant references to European affairs, his excoriations of Merkel, his blunt criticisms of the Islamicization of Britain and France, while taking a neutral line on Israel (a non-Western state). In short, Make America Great Again is code for, let's call it, Re-Westernizing the West after this period of slow but steady de-Westernization, ongoing now for a while.

    Trump is, then, not speaking to "U.S. citizens," if my impression is correct, but announcing a higher ideal, one that has not been heard for decades except on the margins of politics. Millions in the USA have flocked to the banners of civilizational glory as called for by Trump; or at least the prospect of an honest defensive stand. In other words, if fall it is we are to do, let's not go out whimpering about the marginal corporate tax rate.
  175. @Vendetta
    I was there tonight at Trump’s rally. Unbelievable shit show from the college protesters! Started fights with supporters, security, and cops. Completely out of control. Chicago PD had barely effective presence in the arena and led the crowd out straight into a gauntlet of screaming protestors outside. Blocked the route back to the train station and redirected everyone on a detour that went beyond the barricades. Total incompetence.

    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708385782755684353/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708545853770825728/photo/1

    Chicago PD had barely effective presence in the arena and led the crowd out straight into a gauntlet of screaming protestors outside. Blocked the route back to the train station and redirected everyone on a detour that went beyond the barricades. Total incompetence.

    Total incompetence . . .*ahem* . . .’incompetence’ yes, that must be it. And who, pray, is the mayor of Chicago?

  176. Trump should be the choice of BLM. After all, he is the only one proposing stopping ethnic cleansing of Black areas like South Central. But BLM tyoes are addicted to the high of making Whites grovel and pay for that by low wages, ethnic cleansing. Low time preference.

  177. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?"

    To judge from the comment activity at 24AheadDotCom, he is even a prophet without honor at his own website.
  178. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    People pretend to be cowed in public then vote for revenge in secret.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "People pretend to be cowed in public then vote for revenge in secret."

    As the old saying goes: White people riot in the voting booth.
  179. So let me get this straight. Trump wants to bring back jobs to the US, including the south side of Chicago, and he’s the racist? And Hillary has spent her career doing everything possible send American jobs to Mexico and China, etc. And the blacks love her?

    The only rational conclusion is that blacks are incredibly stupid, or they really don’t want jobs brought back because they really don’t want to work.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    [Blacks] really don’t want jobs brought back because they really don’t want to work.
     
    We have a winner.
    , @Jefferson
    "And Hillary has spent her career doing everything possible send American jobs to Mexico and China, etc. And the blacks love her?"

    Hildabeast has 90 percent support from religious Black Christians in the Southern bible belt, even though she is pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage.

    Religious Black Christians love to vote for secular progressive anti-Christian politicians.
  180. @wonderbread
    The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren't even armed. What did people expect? It's bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don't see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable.

    BS. That is your opinion. That now-frightened suburbanite realizes that what those on the right (that they have refused to listen to for fear of being a “racist”) have been telling them for 20 years is true.

  181. This has elements of Maiden Square written all over it. Thankfully no-one got shot, but a lot of things don’t add up.

    Maiden square was a CIA / Mossad orchestrated operation, i.e. kill some protesters to install a Jewish government in Ukraine. (blame the old government, etc.) While this seems to be the opposite, a “liberal” (i.e. Jewish) led freak-out over having a potential government (Trump) who might not be 100% servile to zionists, one has to wonder a couple things:

    a.) Why weren’t these “lefties” ass whooped? Did they bring protection? Was it already “provided” for them?

    b.) Is this a media stunt, like the Sandy Hook operation, also a zionist / Jewish psyop? Fox Jews eh, I mean “News” has a LONG history of Mossad infiltration……

    c.) U. Chicago and Move On have long been zionist strongholds, too….. easily manipulated for the desired outcome.

    I’m just starting to look at the details, but this smells REALLY funky.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    Also, this guy "Quo Vadis".....? Who the hell names their kid after a Latin phrase? (Where are you going?) C'mon.

    This is straight out of the Talmud, folks. If they warn us before they kill us, it absolves them of the crime, you know.
  182. @David In TN
    In 1968, the far-out left didn't care if Nixon won. Who did they think would win if Humphrey's candidacy was destroyed, Wallace?

    They underestimated Nixon in that they thought he would be easy to defeat in 1972. The current bunch of slime think these "protests" and future ones will destroy Trump's campaign.

    Like underestimating Nixon, in their bubble no one likes Trump. My social media is full of anti-Trumpery. My friends and peers are the upwardly mobile administrative class of the oligarchy -MBAs and JDs, Democratic and Republican. They smirk and smirk, loathe and loathe… But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.
    One college friend called and said, “please tell me you’re writing a book about this “moment in history”
    I told him to fuck off. Books and reasoned arguments have been dismissed by you respectable people. Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers
    He can’t tell if I’m serious…

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Ditto on your coworker, social circle observations. This is a victory that will have to be fought for & won by the middle class and working class. A lot of the upper middle yuppie types are too concerned with status signaling to the leftist hive. It's a shame this election is not playing out in 1992 or 96. As per isteve's post about radical demographic change affecting a "Ratchet" turn on the culture vis restrictions on freedom of speech, strengthening of the justification for affirmative action, and open borders globalism, this will be a much more grueling election than it would have been 20 yrs ago. It is chilling indeed to reflect on the long term harm caused by the neocon takeover of the Republican party in the early 90s. Oh, what might have been.
    For patriots to win now will require an epic effort. Trump is gonna need at least 20 million folks to step forward with campaign contributions...there may not be a another chance after 2016!
    , @Anonymous
    But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.

    What is the apocalypse that they envision?

  183. @DaveE
    This has elements of Maiden Square written all over it. Thankfully no-one got shot, but a lot of things don't add up.

    Maiden square was a CIA / Mossad orchestrated operation, i.e. kill some protesters to install a Jewish government in Ukraine. (blame the old government, etc.) While this seems to be the opposite, a "liberal" (i.e. Jewish) led freak-out over having a potential government (Trump) who might not be 100% servile to zionists, one has to wonder a couple things:

    a.) Why weren't these "lefties" ass whooped? Did they bring protection? Was it already "provided" for them?

    b.) Is this a media stunt, like the Sandy Hook operation, also a zionist / Jewish psyop? Fox Jews eh, I mean "News" has a LONG history of Mossad infiltration......

    c.) U. Chicago and Move On have long been zionist strongholds, too..... easily manipulated for the desired outcome.

    I'm just starting to look at the details, but this smells REALLY funky.

    Also, this guy “Quo Vadis”…..? Who the hell names their kid after a Latin phrase? (Where are you going?) C’mon.

    This is straight out of the Talmud, folks. If they warn us before they kill us, it absolves them of the crime, you know.

  184. “Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place……….. He says: “Trump represents everything America is not……….”

    Some of my ancestors came here as colonists, before the American Revolution. And let me tell you, Siddiqui – YOU represent what America is not. America was never intended to be, nor should it be, a land of guys named “Kamran Siddiqui”. Don’t like it? F**k you. Go back to whatever neolithic s**t-pile you and your ancestors came from.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    They're not gonna leave on their own. They'll have to be removed by force. The question is - are we prepared and motivated to do so?
  185. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    “A mistake to have children?”

    NO!

    A mistake to give the future away to the SJW thugs by not showing up.

    Have lots of children. Help make our future together!

  186. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    “That’s the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say.”

    When has Cruz ever expressed anything that was even remotely pro-white as such?

  187. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m now starting to see this whole thing as an attempted setup. Hundreds of protesters infiltrated the rally so as to suddenly all jump up at once and start a riot inside. They would play to the media as people being brutalized by the nazi Trump goons. The media is acting in concert with the disrupters by trying to place the blame for violence on Trump. They had their cameras there just waiting for someone to get hurt so they could blow it out of proportion. The protesters themselves are pretty good at staging these incidents whereby they lunge forward and provoke security into subduing them which then looks bad on camera. Imagine the treatment a protester would get if he stormed the podium at an Obama rally the way that stupid black guy did at the Trump rally? The Obama people would be screaming for his head and he might end up in prison.
    Trump was wise to call it off. He sized it up pretty well and saw the script. Not only that but his statements afterwards were well chosen where he observed that there was a lot of anger out there and sounded conciliatory. My hat’s off to him, he’s impressed me with this. Not only did he smell a rat and avoid putting his foot into this trap but he also avoided making harsh statements afterward that could be twisted by the media to make him look bad. He has instinct, a gut instinct that’s carried him all these years.
    As time goes on I realize that things are not as spontaneous as they might initially seem to be on the surface. This was an act of coordination between the establishment media and the supposedly anti-establishment protesters. Strange how they work together.

  188. @Hunsdon
    Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?

    “Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?”

    To judge from the comment activity at 24AheadDotCom, he is even a prophet without honor at his own website.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Just to be fair to 24AheadDotCom, there are lots of good guys out there with sites that get few comments. Not saying he is a good guy. The 24etc. dude just might be a Corvinus level dullard but you get what I'm saying
  189. @Dr. X
    You people who think that this is going to generate sympathy for Trump are wrong. What it will do is embolden the left to engage in more violence, and it will encourage Hillary and her media flacks to become more shrill in attacking whites and appeasing the mobs.

    This isn't 1968. Back then, social and political institutions were temperamentally conservative, and the mobs were obviously an out-of-the mainstream freak show. But now those freaks control every single institution in American society, without exception -- right down to putting mincing homosexuals and women in front-line combat positions in the Marine Corps with practically zero opposition.

    In 2016, Trump is the freak show and so are those of us on the Alt-right. Unlike 1968, when American society was actually "liberal" in the classical-constitutional sense and it upheld the First Amendment and Due Process rights of the hippie freaks, today they're not going to return the favor to you. The mobs and the socio-political institutions that enable them will be more than happy to crush Trump and every single one of his supporters without mercy.

    Don't think that they won't try.

    I think what happened will just polarize everyone even more. Anyone who already liked Trump will become more resolute, and anyone who already disliked him will only create victim-blaming rationalizations. We are probably closer to civil war than at any time since Grant. Of course the next one will be more like
    2000s Iraq than 1860s USA.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    Read about the start of the Spanish Civil War. Many similarities to 21st Century America.
  190. @Anonymous
    "rioters" "mob"

    If fascism could be defeated in debate, I assure you that it would never have happened, neither in Germany, nor in Italy, nor anywhere else. Those who recognised its threat at the time and tried to stop it were, I assume, also called “a mob”. Regrettably too many “fair-minded” people didn’t either try, or want to stop it, and, as I witnessed myself during the war, accommodated themselves when it took over.
    — Franz Frison, Irish Holocaust survivor, 12th December, 1988 in a letter to the Irish Times defending protesters objecting to a Holocaust denier being invited to debate at Trinity College, Dublin
     

    And who are the people allergic to reason and free speech in our era?

  191. @Questioning The Narrative
    I have read here that Soros provides funding for both Hillary Clinton and BLM.

    Bernie's name is being invoked by the protesters... but why in the world would black hardcore SJWs be for Bernie and not Hillary?

    The whole situation seems very win-win for Hillary... perhaps too much so.

    Well Bernie isnt exactly going out of his way to “disavow” the violent protestors like Trump was made to do with Duke (even though the establishment is still pushing the outright lie that Trump “refused to disavow the KKK.”

    Bernie is a useful idiot for the elites. Nothing more.

  192. @wonderbread
    The whole thing is a clusterfuck. As a public university, UIC has no business hosting campaign events. The city compounded the error by not locking down the campus to protesters beforehand. The so-called UIC police inside the pavilion aren't even armed. What did people expect? It's bad PR for everyone involved, including Trump.

    But I don't see it moving the needle either way in the primary. Every pissed off Trump supporter it mobilizes is offset by a now-frightened suburbanite voting for someone more reasonable. One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.

    How is that possible?? And legal?

    • Replies: @wonderbread
    When you get to the polling station, after you identify yourself, the polling workers automatically hand you a Democratic ballot and you have to specifically request a Republican ballot. The polling workers are union people. They mark down next to your name if you asked for a Republican ballot. Next time you're up for a promotion, those records come out of storage and they pick someone "loyal" instead of you. That's Chicago for you--Northern Illinois in general. The party machine keeps tabs on everyone and rules by fear. Those of my friends who are cops and firemen want to vote Trump, but they're staying home or voting Sanders instead because they can't have it on record that they crossed party lines.
  193. @Vendetta
    I was there tonight at Trump’s rally. Unbelievable shit show from the college protesters! Started fights with supporters, security, and cops. Completely out of control. Chicago PD had barely effective presence in the arena and led the crowd out straight into a gauntlet of screaming protestors outside. Blocked the route back to the train station and redirected everyone on a detour that went beyond the barricades. Total incompetence.

    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708385782755684353/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/Vendetta92429/status/708545853770825728/photo/1

    I doubt it was incompetence on the part of the Chicago PD. It served the purposes of the local politicians to have the local thugs shut the Trump rally down.

    The post-rally statements by Rahm and the Chicago PD were none too subtle about blaming Trump.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    I doubt it was incompetence on the part of the Chicago PD. It served the purposes of the local politicians to have the local thugs shut the Trump rally down.
     
    Yup. And who's the mayor of Chi-town at the moment? Why, that'd be Rahm Emmanual, wouldn't it! And didn't he used to work for Billy-Bob Clinton back in the 90s? Why, I believe so!

    It's all starting to make sense now ...

  194. @Boomstick
    I doubt it was incompetence on the part of the Chicago PD. It served the purposes of the local politicians to have the local thugs shut the Trump rally down.

    The post-rally statements by Rahm and the Chicago PD were none too subtle about blaming Trump.

    I doubt it was incompetence on the part of the Chicago PD. It served the purposes of the local politicians to have the local thugs shut the Trump rally down.

    Yup. And who’s the mayor of Chi-town at the moment? Why, that’d be Rahm Emmanual, wouldn’t it! And didn’t he used to work for Billy-Bob Clinton back in the 90s? Why, I believe so!

    It’s all starting to make sense now …

  195. Paging Lawrence Auster. The more violence, threats, anti-white taunts the left engages in, the more the “Trump is a Nazi” meme will get flogged. Even when some Trump supporter gets severely hurt or there are direct threats to The Donald, it will be spun as whitey’s fault. When it reaches a peak, the anti-white protests will simply disappear from the airwaves and be replaced by reruns of Friends and Seinfeld.

  196. @Cagey Beast
    This is going to be a wild and crazy summer in the USA:

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/708467260373868544

    Maybe Trump should put together a private security team. Call them the StormTrumpers and have Karl Lagerfeld design the (fabulous) uniforms.

  197. @Boomstick
    Cruz didn't side with the protestors--his statement explicitly said the protesters were to blame. But then Cruz went on to overplay his hand and argue that Trump bore some responsibility for an alleged climate of violence at his campaign events. Cruz was trying to double dip and get some milage out of both the protestors and Trump.

    Even if true, the aftermath of events like this are not the time to go all nuancy and morally equivalent. Protestors shouting down campaign rallies and roughing up attendees is the core issue. Clarity is called for.

    Cruz is doubling down today. He is a traitor.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    He has to. Unfortunately, he is too stupid to realize that doubling down only works when you are saying what the people want to hear. He is so blind for power it must be eye-opening to all those cucks that thought he was running to save the Constitution or because he was the real conservative.
  198. @Questioning the Narrative
    Hardcore SJW blacks disrupt a Trump rally and specifically claim to be Sanders supporters. Aren't they exactly the kind of Democrat least likely to support Sanders? They so famously stole his mic right out of his hands not that long ago...

    The whole situation seems awfully win-win for Hillary. I have read on this site that Soros is bankrolling both Hillary and BLM... is this his handwork?

    My thoughts exactly.

    Young blacks supporting Sanders are not the sort of thugs one heard last night chanting Sanders’ name.

    If anything, less geeky, older black guys are as likely to support Trump, particularly if they are in a trade or are factory workers.

    This seems like a d-bag Clintonian move to mess with Trump’s minority support.

  199. #JeSuisRustyShackleford

  200. @Boomstick
    Cruz didn't side with the protestors--his statement explicitly said the protesters were to blame. But then Cruz went on to overplay his hand and argue that Trump bore some responsibility for an alleged climate of violence at his campaign events. Cruz was trying to double dip and get some milage out of both the protestors and Trump.

    Even if true, the aftermath of events like this are not the time to go all nuancy and morally equivalent. Protestors shouting down campaign rallies and roughing up attendees is the core issue. Clarity is called for.

    So he said the protesters were to blame before he said Trump was to blame. My, how dignified.

  201. Members of the silenced majority should play this up by going to Trump rallies in obvious disguises.

    Then Trump can point out that his followers are so persecuted that they feel the need to hide their identity when sticking up for him in public.

  202. @Cloud of ProbMat
    Cruz started strong but then he had to start larping and try to lay blame on the God Emperor. He could have gone cool and above the fray, but instead had to go SJW just like a typical GOPe insider. For shame!

    You know the stupidest that thing about it, and the reason Republicans will forevermore be the Outer Party, is that they’re legitimizing a weapon that has been used and will be used on them over and over again. Not that they need the GOPe’s credence, but they don’t have to help.

    Remember when some reporter heard some guy who may or may not have said “Kill him!” in reference to Obama at a McCain rally in ’08? That was a national news story. Heated rhetoric creating a toxic environment, or whatever they said. About McCain! Who wouldn’t go after Obama’s experience, let alone Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright. McCain, who unilaterally suspended his campaign over one of the biggest political issues in the last 30 years. Who might’ve strangled to death with his bare hands any campaign staffer who whispered anything about race.

    This man they tagged with an Unsafe Campaign Environment. They can tag it to anyone. Why play along? You only make it more plausible that only your side has those most horrifying of all political figures: “extremists.”

  203. @Reg Cæsar
    I can't keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not.

    “I can’t keep Andrew the father and Andrew the fairy straight in my mind. One uses an initial, the other not.”

    I am “Andrew the father”. And thank you, I like the ring of that!

    I never use any initial unless some other Andrew is already around and has taken my handle/name first.

  204. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Kamran Siddiqui is a Pakistani Muslim “American”. He may be the son of well known ALS researcher Mohammad Siddiqui at Northwestern.

    Larger Point:Muslim “Americans” will be enthusiastically voting Native Born White American Males into a racial minority on Nov 8 2016…all the way through to the 2040 Nov 8 POTUS election night.

  205. @Spyder
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyQXWFa_PY4


    Bernie Sanders supporters are pretty peaceful http://i.imgur.com/SbmxIse.png

    Was there anything comparable to this against Obama? How scared would the media be if Trump supporters organized like this against Hillary?

    Had there been anything like this against Obama they’d have declared martial law, and the MSM would’ve been acting as if a second holocaust had occurred.

  206. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    "I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view"

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn't run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    Yes, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit are very black, but you see, they lack that white liberal base you need to get a riot organized. It goes like this: Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city. These white liberals have contacts among the local black community, and the whites organize and arrange for the black mob to show up.

    In a nutshell, almost no white liberals live in New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit. The first are too traditionally southern (they were always places you moved away from if you were a liberal), and the latter is too poor and violent for white upper middles to be able to stand it. Soros can’t get anything going if his army lacks what you could call ‘line officers.’ The black mob isn’t capable of organizing itself without whites leading it.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    It was near a college. Of course there are plenty of white SJWs and useless affirmative action admits to put to good use.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city.
     
    The Birch Society's The New American always maintained that all riots, at least in America, were artificial. Astroturf afire.
  207. @Stogumber
    Stupid Franz Frison#52 didn't get his chronology right. These leftist mobs existed already before and after WWI. The mob wasn't a reaction against fascism, fascism was a reaction against the mob (fighting the mob by imitating its strategies).

    I do often wonder who it is people think the Browshirts were fighting in the streets. Little old ladies?

  208. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    I kind of agree. Trump’s not half as good as we wish he was. We mostly like him because we hate his enemies.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    When you're drowning, you look to the guy who might throw you a life-jacket when you know all the others will throw you an anvil.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    At this point it's too late to wait and hope someone better comes along.
  209. @Hail

    The word is non-whites.
     
    Or is it "Blacks"?

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.

    Something like sixty million Hispanics in the USA, but they seem much less represented among radical anti-Trumpites than the forty million native Blacks. My impression.

    Even if Hispanics were the majority of the troublemakers at this event, we’d probably still pay more attention to the blacks. They’re colorful clowns who capture our attention and captivate our imaginations.

    Hispanics quietly show up, hunker down, and increase in number and proportion each year. The meek will inherit the earth, you know.

  210. Just one maxim comes to mind:

    Ye shall know a man by the friends he keeps AND THE ENEMIES HE MAKES.

    God bless Donald Trump.

  211. @Lurker
    I would like to think that something called 'Kamran Siddiqui' saying “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not. We came in here and we wanted to shut this down. " will garner Trump many, many votes from real Americans.

    I would like to think that something called ‘Kamran Siddiqui’ saying “Trump represents everything America is not …” will garner Trump many, many votes from real Americans.

    What, you don’t like getting lectured by a Lovecraft deity?

    I hear that Shub-Niggurath, The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, is (unsurprisingly) endorsing Bernie.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    This is what I thought of:

    Colbert Cracks Up - Suq Madiq
  212. @Lagertha
    Ha, hah, haa, so, we're good, right SFG? These are strange times. So, Unity. But, I'll be waiting for all you guys to make me laugh tomorrow! I want a laugh after a particularly hard night!

    If only punk rockers were still around from "back in the day" in London and NYC (Chicago...eh, not so much) to bring out some tunes about this Trump-rally-riot-retrograde-revolting-ridiculous-road show-crazy-town. Plus, I was sort of annoyed that the majority of people rioting (both sides) were college-age morons. Did 'free-speech' somehow not factor-in sometime during HS for these duffusses - how did they get in to college?...I thought 'free speech,' was also a standard SAT question? No wonder Finnish HS students are so much smarter than Chicago college students, perhaps many American college students!

    Next time: Trump needs to have baddass, Road Warrior-like guards with eyeliner and weird clothes, (maybe kilts and leatha, and studs!) as guards or grand-inquisitors, at his future rallies. Create secret, quixotic questions for attendees....and, if they mess up, don't let them in, simple....kind of like "the Knights that say Ni!"

    This was all sooooooo contrived and planned. Conformism on the left (& GOP) is frightening "groupthink," now, this should be a wake-up call to everyone. One would think these young agitators tonight would be fighting the Thought Police and Campus Police on their campuses policing them whether 'Yes means Yes,' and all those conformist things....kinda' disparages the good name of a great band, Yes. Anyway, they should be advocating for free speech, peace, and "constructive conversation," not acting like spoiled brats/nihilists/anarchists. Plus, now their mugs are on the internet forever.

    We’re good–we were never bad. I do wonder why you care why someone on the Internet likes you or not though. We’re all pseudonyms anyway.

    More seriously, punk rockers lean sharply to the left and would be unlikely to bring out any tunes about all this.

    The free speech thing is interesting, and I think other commenters probably have a better sense of this than me. I think free speech is dead as a left-wing principle–since it’s not really very right-wing, it’s probably dead in the long term as soon as the older liberals who still believe in it die off. The left is more into ‘safe spaces’ and protecting the feelings of sacralized groups. Recall that ‘hate speech’ laws make racist, etc. speech in Europe actually illegal, whereas ‘hate crimes’ legislation only increases penalties for an existing crime.

    ‘Their mugs are on the internet forever’ may be part of the problem–whereas before an argument with campus protesters would simply result in bad feelings, now they can take pictures, crowdsource your identity, and give you a ‘racism’ record that follows you around forever. But I can’t claim the ubiquity of the permanent record is really what’s making the kids so conformist–it makes sense to me intuitively, but for that I’d have to ask one of the young people here. For one thing, what made the left buy into the ‘safe space’ idea (a left-wing mirror of old right-wing ideas like blasphemy laws) I’m not sure. Consolidating their gains, I’d guess?

  213. @Uptown Resident
    We took baby to the uic pavilion for rally. In retrospect a bad idea. The line to get in was thousands long. A mix of trump supporters and protestors. We went home before things got ugly. Chicago is a complete mess. Hard to see how the country can survive demographic change. A mistake to have children?

    If you don’t, they win long-term.

    Though as 22pp22 says, the kids might have to move around a bit.

  214. Hopefully mainstream Democrats will finally begin to see that their party has been completely taken over by the far-left. My parents are among these oldtimers who really don’t like the radical anti-American types but think they are only a small fraction of the party. Hopefully they will come around to the fact that the hate filled radical left is now the major force in the Democratic party.

  215. @ben tillman

    One thing that might hurt Trump in IL is that public sector unions keep track of who crosses over to vote Republican in an open primary, which has the effect of suppressing white turnout.
     
    What? This sort of corruption is unimaginable in the South.

    Never heard of this–how do they know which way you voted, or is there no secret ballot in IL?

  216. @Anon
    Yes, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit are very black, but you see, they lack that white liberal base you need to get a riot organized. It goes like this: Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city. These white liberals have contacts among the local black community, and the whites organize and arrange for the black mob to show up.

    In a nutshell, almost no white liberals live in New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit. The first are too traditionally southern (they were always places you moved away from if you were a liberal), and the latter is too poor and violent for white upper middles to be able to stand it. Soros can't get anything going if his army lacks what you could call 'line officers.' The black mob isn't capable of organizing itself without whites leading it.

    It was near a college. Of course there are plenty of white SJWs and useless affirmative action admits to put to good use.

  217. @Jefferson
    "I think that the accepted wisdom about the 1968 and 1972 elections is that they were strongly influenced by the violence and chaos caused by left wing demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The country as a whole chose Republican Nixon in 1968 and again in a landslide in 1972.

    I wonder how long privileged minorities will be allowed to prevent Trump from speaking. Rachel Maddow went so far as to say that just by choosing to hold a rally in Chicago, Trump was deliberately provoking violence, because of Chicago’s minority communities.

    No one accuses Maddow of racism in spite of the fact that she is effectively saying that blacks and Hispanics are violent children who cannot be expected to behave when free speech is exercised by someone with an opposing view"

    Detroit, Atlanta, and New Orleans are Blacker than Chicago, yet when The Donald held rallies in The Motor City, The ATL, and The Big Eazy he didn't run into these problems.

    Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?

    “Are New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit Blacks more docile than Chicago Blacks?”

    No. Just better funded, by Organizing Against America and Soros.

    As it gets surpassing clear that Trump will be the Repub nominee and will handily pile-drive either of those two frail, unlikeable Democratic senior citizens in the general election, certain people are starting to panic. Ergo: paid rent-a-mobs.

  218. Neoconned [AKA "trumped"] says:

    Trump was rushed today by another sjw/blm type:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8PyJb-tDl0&feature=youtu.be

    Trump did not back down and his body language indicated he was going to punch the guy until the secret service swarmed him.

    Now sanders has come out in support of the protesters last night. Can’t believe some people on this site liked bernie. He is turning full Bolshevik now with supporting violence against speech!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DannyEFreeman/status/708704342665240577

    Maybe trump supporters should start swarming bernie and hillary rallies with screaming and chanting over the speakers, and watch how quickly the left starts squealing!

    • Replies: @SFG
    "Can’t believe some people on this site liked bernie."

    When the facts change, I change my opinions. You can look up my old comments where I thought Merkel was doing a good job. ;)
  219. @Antonymous
    Unbelievable bias to call threatening and attacking attendees the "riskiest political act of 2016." Also the insistence on using "protesters" as descriptor for people biting ears off, just as in Ferguson and Baltimore wanton destruction was endorsed as "peaceful protests." I contrast this with coverage, both by NPR and the Times, of the Malheur refuge protesters who injured no one and were referred to as "militants" (and the book thrown at them legally).

    “I contrast this with coverage, both by NPR and the Times, of the Malheur refuge protesters who injured no one and were referred to as ‘militants’ (and the book thrown at them legally).”

    And contrast coverage of the various Occupard brigades of 2011/2012, who destroyed both private and public property and attacked cops, with media coverage of the Malheur occupiers. The only difference is the Malheur men had guns whereas the Occupards did not, but the Occupards caused tens of millions of $ in damage and injured cops whereas the Malheur occupiers damaged nothing and hurt no one. Yet, the Occupards were noble heroes while the Malheur occupiers were malcontents deserving of death, QED (Mr. Finnicum, shot to death by angry, hot-blooded feds), per the media. Who/whom indeed.

  220. These protests are great in another way. A lot of the anti-Trump people are constantly saying Trump is a phony and will do just the opposite of what he is saying now. These protesters are hemming Trump in. Should Trump win because the people are voting against these clowns, he may not have as much room to maneuver once he is in.

  221. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    best vid of trump attacker in dayton OH:
    https://twitter.com/BenedictKMiller/status/708728923815858176

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    https://mobile.twitter.com/younglionking7
  222. @Andrew E.
    Cruz is doubling down today. He is a traitor.

    He has to. Unfortunately, he is too stupid to realize that doubling down only works when you are saying what the people want to hear. He is so blind for power it must be eye-opening to all those cucks that thought he was running to save the Constitution or because he was the real conservative.

  223. Attempted attack on Donald Trump at Dayton Ohio March 12, 2016

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8&feature=youtu.be

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Another angle and more of Trump responding after things get back under control:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNelSuoHzlI
  224. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @Leftist conservative
    best vid of trump attacker in dayton OH:
    https://twitter.com/BenedictKMiller/status/708728923815858176
  225. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Like underestimating Nixon, in their bubble no one likes Trump. My social media is full of anti-Trumpery. My friends and peers are the upwardly mobile administrative class of the oligarchy -MBAs and JDs, Democratic and Republican. They smirk and smirk, loathe and loathe... But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.
    One college friend called and said, "please tell me you're writing a book about this "moment in history"
    I told him to fuck off. Books and reasoned arguments have been dismissed by you respectable people. Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers
    He can't tell if I'm serious...

    Ditto on your coworker, social circle observations. This is a victory that will have to be fought for & won by the middle class and working class. A lot of the upper middle yuppie types are too concerned with status signaling to the leftist hive. It’s a shame this election is not playing out in 1992 or 96. As per isteve’s post about radical demographic change affecting a “Ratchet” turn on the culture vis restrictions on freedom of speech, strengthening of the justification for affirmative action, and open borders globalism, this will be a much more grueling election than it would have been 20 yrs ago. It is chilling indeed to reflect on the long term harm caused by the neocon takeover of the Republican party in the early 90s. Oh, what might have been.
    For patriots to win now will require an epic effort. Trump is gonna need at least 20 million folks to step forward with campaign contributions…there may not be a another chance after 2016!

  226. @Cagey Beast
    Attempted attack on Donald Trump at Dayton Ohio March 12, 2016

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8&feature=youtu.be

    Another angle and more of Trump responding after things get back under control:

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    Check out the sign right below Trump at the 1:16 mark. Funny as hell and true as hell.
    , @BB753
    Was that a serious threat or some young hothead? By the way, did you notice how Trump is about the same size as his bodyguards? Pretty imposing physique for a man his age.
  227. @MarkinLA
    People pretend to be cowed in public then vote for revenge in secret.

    “People pretend to be cowed in public then vote for revenge in secret.”

    As the old saying goes: White people riot in the voting booth.

  228. @Corvinus
    "They’ll repay us with hatred and contempt for us and our tradition of free speech, while claiming to represent “America” or whatever country they’ve landed in."

    You do realize that there were a number of anti-Trump protestors there who were "white". So, do these whites not represent America?

    I know. But when non-whites become the majority, their interests will trump those of whites because, besides the fact of their superior numbers, non-whites are ethnocentric and race-conscious. The white liberals who ally themselves with them are fools who believe in racial equality – a delusion not shared by other races.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "But when non-whites become the majority, their interests will trump those of whites because..."

    Assuming that non-whites will be unified. I keep hearing that Hispanics and blacks don't get along. What makes you think they will join forces to take out whites, especially if they give "free stuff"?

    "non-whites are ethnocentric and race-conscious."

    SOME, not all.

    "The white liberals who ally themselves with them are fools who believe in racial equality – a delusion not shared by other races."

    Not shared by SOME by other races.
  229. @5371
    [Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place.

    He says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not.]

    How would you know that, Kamran Siddiqui?

    Is “Kamran” the alternative spelling of Cameron, for the cognitively challenged?

  230. @Anonymous
    Second City Cop reports:

    The media is downplaying the "protests" as isolated. It seems they aren't broadcasting footage of the debris being thrown across Harrison by Sanders/Hillary supporters at Trump fans.

    They also aren't mentioning the hordes running through the UIC parking structure breaking the windows of cars with Trump 2016 stickers.

    We haven't seen any mention of the Eisenhower takeover, nor the Incident Team call-outs from assorted Districts.

    It's almost like they're ashamed that the UIC tradition of supporting leftist terrorists (Ayers and his spawn) has come home to roost.

    Last report was at least two cops needed numerous stitches to close up wounds. A speedy recovery to the injured.

    Whoa!

    Pics of these incidents would be a game changer. Any idea if there are any pics? Did any attendees take any pictures? The people who got their windows smashed, did they take pictures? Are police reports available?

    Here is a picture of an injured cop.

    Here is a great video of a “protestor” apparently shooting an assault rifle in celebration.

    https://twitter.com/RUthIess187/status/708482144943734784

  231. @Emblematic
    I kind of agree. Trump's not half as good as we wish he was. We mostly like him because we hate his enemies.

    When you’re drowning, you look to the guy who might throw you a life-jacket when you know all the others will throw you an anvil.

  232. @5371
    [Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place.

    He says: “Trump represents everything America is not and everything Chicago is not.]

    How would you know that, Kamran Siddiqui?

    >How would you know that Kamran Siddiqui?

    Please. No one wants to hear Kamran bray.

  233. @M_Young
    He needs to reschedule Chicago before the Ill. primary. He needs massive security and massive supporter presence.

    Trump could easily hold a number of rallies at the Allstate Center(formerly known as the Rosemont Horizon) just down the road from O’Hare Airport and outside of Rahm Emmanuel’s Chicago jurisdiction.

    Tons of Chicagoland whites would love and fight to attend. The Rosemont is right next door to the Edison and Portage Park neighborhoods where lots of Chicago cops, firefighters, teachers and city workers live.

    The very grandchildren of those cops who fought the lefties in Grant Park 48 years ago would love to have their chance to once again restore order.

  234. @Mr. Anon
    "Man, it must suck to be a prophet without honor in your own country. Could you tell us more about it?"

    To judge from the comment activity at 24AheadDotCom, he is even a prophet without honor at his own website.

    Just to be fair to 24AheadDotCom, there are lots of good guys out there with sites that get few comments. Not saying he is a good guy. The 24etc. dude just might be a Corvinus level dullard but you get what I’m saying

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, I agree with your point. And, as far as I know, Mr. 24AheadDotCom is kind of "on our side". But his act of barging on to someone else's website - someone like Steve, who has a much bigger internet following - and pushing this line of - your message is all wrong, you should do what I say if you want to influence people - is tiresome and annoying. Clearly Steve is influencing people - a lot more effectively than 24etc. is.
  235. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Like underestimating Nixon, in their bubble no one likes Trump. My social media is full of anti-Trumpery. My friends and peers are the upwardly mobile administrative class of the oligarchy -MBAs and JDs, Democratic and Republican. They smirk and smirk, loathe and loathe... But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.
    One college friend called and said, "please tell me you're writing a book about this "moment in history"
    I told him to fuck off. Books and reasoned arguments have been dismissed by you respectable people. Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers
    He can't tell if I'm serious...

    But now they are apoplectic about the coming apocalypse.

    What is the apocalypse that they envision?

  236. @anony-mouse
    I doubt this is going to make anyone here even a little sympathetic with what Rahm has to go through every day. It should but it won't.

    What, Tiny Dancer doesn’t know his own town?

  237. @AndrewR
    I think what happened will just polarize everyone even more. Anyone who already liked Trump will become more resolute, and anyone who already disliked him will only create victim-blaming rationalizations. We are probably closer to civil war than at any time since Grant. Of course the next one will be more like
    2000s Iraq than 1860s USA.

    Read about the start of the Spanish Civil War. Many similarities to 21st Century America.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  238. @Paul Kersey
    Trump just got elected tonight.

    He got nominated tonight, he won’t be elected.

  239. @Mr. Anon
    "Kamran Siddiqui is a 20-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where the event was to take place........... He says: “Trump represents everything America is not.........."

    Some of my ancestors came here as colonists, before the American Revolution. And let me tell you, Siddiqui - YOU represent what America is not. America was never intended to be, nor should it be, a land of guys named "Kamran Siddiqui". Don't like it? F**k you. Go back to whatever neolithic s**t-pile you and your ancestors came from.

    They’re not gonna leave on their own. They’ll have to be removed by force. The question is – are we prepared and motivated to do so?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    Waiting for my moment to "riot in the voting booth".
  240. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    Today Donald Trump called on Bernie Sanders to tell his supporters to stop interfering with Trump’s and his supports’ first amendment rights.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/12/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-should-tell-his-protestors-stop-stop/

  241. @24AheadDotCom

    "There's legitimate protest, and then there's an attempt to silence opponents. As their cheering clearly shows, these protesters wanted to silence me. That's completely un-American. Many of the protesters are supporters of Bernie Sanders and are from groups like BLM and MoveOn. As a U.S. Senator, Mr. Sanders must realize that attempts to silence others are completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. I call on Senator Sanders to renounce these deplorable, un-American tactics of his supporters and groups he's affiliated with such as BLM."
     
    There's no way Sanders isn't going to respond to Trump's statement. With that statement, Trump has done at least three things. He's shown the tens of millions of Americans who oppose BLM that he's on their side, making this an 80-20 or even 90-10 issue. He's also introduced a rift between Sanders and BLM. And, he's reduced the possibility that BLM/MoveOn will try to shut down his future rallies.

    One problem: Trump didn't make that statement, I did. That's the type of thing Marine Le Pen or even Ted Cruz would say. Because Trump acts like a Wise Guy channeling idiots, he isn't capable of making such a statement. He isn't capable of separating Bernie from BLM.

    No doubt his fanboys will disagree. Explain the benefit to someone besides Trump of Trump's actual response. If his fanboys can't do that, then why trust them about anything?

    Why do you and your website have a name that isn’t intuitive, with regard to being against immigration? Does anyone, beside you, know what “24 Ahead” means or alludes to?

  242. @TangoMan
    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it's such a shame that you're not out there as the major-domo of a politician's campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.

    Hey, he’s about as right about the campaign as Mike Murphy!

    He’s didn’t get $14 million for his advice, though.

  243. iSteveFan says:

    It is interesting that a large proportion of Trump protesters seem to be blacks. I can see muslims irked by his statements. I can see Mexicans irked by his statements. But what has he done to irk blacks? It makes me think that democrats, and by extension their most loyal block of voters, are really afraid that Trump will be hard to beat in November.

    • Replies: @Matra
    They were probably a Clinton rent-a-mob.
  244. @Dave B
    So let me get this straight. Trump wants to bring back jobs to the US, including the south side of Chicago, and he's the racist? And Hillary has spent her career doing everything possible send American jobs to Mexico and China, etc. And the blacks love her?

    The only rational conclusion is that blacks are incredibly stupid, or they really don't want jobs brought back because they really don't want to work.

    [Blacks] really don’t want jobs brought back because they really don’t want to work.

    We have a winner.

  245. It is interesting that a large proportion of Trump protesters seem to be blacks.

    Those who’ve bought and paid for those particular blacks recognize the American sovereignty Trump stands for to be a legitimate threat to their illegitimate power and wealth.

  246. @AndrewR
    How is that possible?? And legal?

    When you get to the polling station, after you identify yourself, the polling workers automatically hand you a Democratic ballot and you have to specifically request a Republican ballot. The polling workers are union people. They mark down next to your name if you asked for a Republican ballot. Next time you’re up for a promotion, those records come out of storage and they pick someone “loyal” instead of you. That’s Chicago for you–Northern Illinois in general. The party machine keeps tabs on everyone and rules by fear. Those of my friends who are cops and firemen want to vote Trump, but they’re staying home or voting Sanders instead because they can’t have it on record that they crossed party lines.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Wow! That's a remarkable story. Remarkable corruption. Sounds like a great venue for a James O'Keefe style video and/or a Department of Justice investigation (assuming we ever have an attorney general who is interested in justice).
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    Wait a minute---you're saying there are different ballots for Democratic and Republican candidates? Where I come from, it's all on the same ballot.
    , @Paul Mendez
    Does Illinois have absentee or early voting?
  247. @Clyde
    Just to be fair to 24AheadDotCom, there are lots of good guys out there with sites that get few comments. Not saying he is a good guy. The 24etc. dude just might be a Corvinus level dullard but you get what I'm saying

    Yeah, I agree with your point. And, as far as I know, Mr. 24AheadDotCom is kind of “on our side”. But his act of barging on to someone else’s website – someone like Steve, who has a much bigger internet following – and pushing this line of – your message is all wrong, you should do what I say if you want to influence people – is tiresome and annoying. Clearly Steve is influencing people – a lot more effectively than 24etc. is.

    • Replies: @Difference Maker
    Already ignored him long ago. My instincts are good
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Yes, the incessant repetition of, "Hey, everybody, listen to me! I'm the only one here who gets it! You're all listening to the wrong guys! You've got to start doing what I tell you to do!" wears thin rather quickly.
  248. @wonderbread
    When you get to the polling station, after you identify yourself, the polling workers automatically hand you a Democratic ballot and you have to specifically request a Republican ballot. The polling workers are union people. They mark down next to your name if you asked for a Republican ballot. Next time you're up for a promotion, those records come out of storage and they pick someone "loyal" instead of you. That's Chicago for you--Northern Illinois in general. The party machine keeps tabs on everyone and rules by fear. Those of my friends who are cops and firemen want to vote Trump, but they're staying home or voting Sanders instead because they can't have it on record that they crossed party lines.

    Wow! That’s a remarkable story. Remarkable corruption. Sounds like a great venue for a James O’Keefe style video and/or a Department of Justice investigation (assuming we ever have an attorney general who is interested in justice).

  249. @Cagey Beast
    Another angle and more of Trump responding after things get back under control:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNelSuoHzlI

    Check out the sign right below Trump at the 1:16 mark. Funny as hell and true as hell.

  250. @Cagey Beast
    Another angle and more of Trump responding after things get back under control:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNelSuoHzlI

    Was that a serious threat or some young hothead? By the way, did you notice how Trump is about the same size as his bodyguards? Pretty imposing physique for a man his age.

    • Replies: @MG
    Trump's attacker was featured in an ISIS type ad -

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/12/breaking-trump-ohio-attacker-tommy-dimassimo-connected-to-isis-suspect-featured-in-isis-propaganda-videos-2015/
    , @Cagey Beast
    He's apparently a college student who's involved in pro-ISIS stunts on campus and supports Bernie Sanders:

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/708782019375816704
  251. @wonderbread
    When you get to the polling station, after you identify yourself, the polling workers automatically hand you a Democratic ballot and you have to specifically request a Republican ballot. The polling workers are union people. They mark down next to your name if you asked for a Republican ballot. Next time you're up for a promotion, those records come out of storage and they pick someone "loyal" instead of you. That's Chicago for you--Northern Illinois in general. The party machine keeps tabs on everyone and rules by fear. Those of my friends who are cops and firemen want to vote Trump, but they're staying home or voting Sanders instead because they can't have it on record that they crossed party lines.

    Wait a minute—you’re saying there are different ballots for Democratic and Republican candidates? Where I come from, it’s all on the same ballot.

    • Replies: @wonderbread
    IL has separate party ballots, as do many Deep Blue states like NY. IL is an open primary; NY is a closed primary. Either way, you still have to ask for a GOP ballot at the polling station, and the unions are keeping track of your choice in order to keep you in line. I'm not sure how it works with absentees and early voting, but I doubt there's a workaround. The Democratic party machine wouldn't like that.
    , @Brutusale
    Massachusetts is the same way; each party gets its own ballot and you have to declare which ballot you want if you're an independent voter. The added kicker is you immediately have to go to the city clerk's office and change your registration back to independent or you'll remain on the rolls under the party you took the primary ballot for.
  252. @TangoMan
    As you never fail to remind us, your strategic brilliance is universally overlooked and it's such a shame that you're not out there as the major-domo of a politician's campaign, or better yet, leading the charge as the candidate, kind of an all-in-one package, like Obama, a brilliant politician, a brilliant campaign manager, a brilliant marketing guru, a brilliant press secretary, why you could be a one-man campaign, heck why not be a brilliant pilot too and fly yourself to all your events, thus cutting down even more on campaign salaries.

    My reply to TangoMan didn’t get approved, which isn’t too ethical. I should get a chance to reply to those who smear me with completely personal smears.

    In any case, my earlier reply has been overtaken by events. Today Trump is sounding like what I wrote in my first comment:

    “These other people by the way, some represented Bernie, our communist friend… Now really Bernie should tell his people…he should really get up and say to his people ‘stop, stop.’”

    Because Trump did it wrong – including lying about Sanders – that won’t have much impact. In fact, Sanders has issued a reply doubling-down on blaming Trump. That wouldn’t have happened if Trump had done things the smart way: referencing a clear attempt to silence him by those who were clearly affiliated with Sanders and issuing a clear demand that Sanders denounces attempts to silence him.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers, but I think claiming partial vindication is justified.

    Meanwhile, these users didn’t want Trump to call out Sanders: TangoMan, Brutusale, Harry Baldwin, Charles Erwin Wilson, Clyde, Ozymandias. They’re part of the problem. Instead of demanding that Trump does smart things that would help him, they want Trump to keep up the pandering to idiots that’s going to mean he’ll lose in a landslide if he’s the candidate. Of course, those like “TangoMan” and the rest will simply change their names to avoid any responsibility for enabling that.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    I've been reading your comments for over 10 years now. I remember defending you on some obscure blogs over a decade ago. My criticism has nothing to do with the idea of your message, it's focused on your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up.

    Here's something that might help you because right now I see you as more of an impediment to the message rather than a good messenger.

    Lots of us love being backseat drivers and believe we could improve Trump's messaging and ideological positions, but you seem to be the only one who takes that impulse and adds the spice of denigrating everyone else in order to highlight your brilliance. Your strategy isn't having it's desired effect on me. Just sayin'.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers,

    See what I mean?

  253. @wonderbread
    When you get to the polling station, after you identify yourself, the polling workers automatically hand you a Democratic ballot and you have to specifically request a Republican ballot. The polling workers are union people. They mark down next to your name if you asked for a Republican ballot. Next time you're up for a promotion, those records come out of storage and they pick someone "loyal" instead of you. That's Chicago for you--Northern Illinois in general. The party machine keeps tabs on everyone and rules by fear. Those of my friends who are cops and firemen want to vote Trump, but they're staying home or voting Sanders instead because they can't have it on record that they crossed party lines.

    Does Illinois have absentee or early voting?

  254. @AndrewR
    a) why does Sailer allow troll comments like this when he's such a puritan about non-troll comments discussing violence

    b) why do people respond

    a) It makes things more interesting

    b) It’s a useful tool to separate the good readers from the braindead autistic spergs who insist on taking obvious bait

    • Agree: AndrewR
  255. @BB753
    Was that a serious threat or some young hothead? By the way, did you notice how Trump is about the same size as his bodyguards? Pretty imposing physique for a man his age.
  256. @NC
    I think the video loops of bloody cops and BLM guys throwing punches is going to cinch the nomination for sure. It completely reverses the narrative about Trump supporters being violent and intolerant, and they're going to have to spin hard on this one. Chaotic pitched melee wouldn't have benefited Trump nearly as much. Instead America got to see a coalition of freaks with mexican, rainbow and communist flags parade around tearing up his signs on primetime tv. And what Trump said about Bernie was that he wouldn't have stepped back and let those women take the mic. You can spin it the way state it but cancelling an event where there are thousands of protesters at a venue that was always going to be hostile is a little different than handing your mic and rally over to a couple of dumb fat girls from BLM.

    The idiots at RT Today are already spinning it in favor of the protesters. Amazing, really. Here is Trump, the only candidate to speak fairly about Putin, and here is RT, dumping on Trump.

    I know they are clueless about racial tensions in the US but RT has really outdone themselves, shooting themselves in the foot like this.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    RT America has become a real dog's breakfast over the last year or so. I get the impression their American bureaus are staffed more and more by Salon and Huffington Post types, along with people from the Infowars end of the spectrum.
  257. @Dave B
    So let me get this straight. Trump wants to bring back jobs to the US, including the south side of Chicago, and he's the racist? And Hillary has spent her career doing everything possible send American jobs to Mexico and China, etc. And the blacks love her?

    The only rational conclusion is that blacks are incredibly stupid, or they really don't want jobs brought back because they really don't want to work.

    “And Hillary has spent her career doing everything possible send American jobs to Mexico and China, etc. And the blacks love her?”

    Hildabeast has 90 percent support from religious Black Christians in the Southern bible belt, even though she is pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage.

    Religious Black Christians love to vote for secular progressive anti-Christian politicians.

  258. @Louis Renault
    Time to re-read Mau Mauing the flack Checkers by Tom Wolfe. Confrontation is precisely what these tax subsidized protesters against the first amendment the right to peaceable assemble are trying to provoke.

    In the words of that Chicagoan Saul Alinsky: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

  259. @BB753
    Was that a serious threat or some young hothead? By the way, did you notice how Trump is about the same size as his bodyguards? Pretty imposing physique for a man his age.

    He’s apparently a college student who’s involved in pro-ISIS stunts on campus and supports Bernie Sanders:

  260. @iSteveFan
    It is interesting that a large proportion of Trump protesters seem to be blacks. I can see muslims irked by his statements. I can see Mexicans irked by his statements. But what has he done to irk blacks? It makes me think that democrats, and by extension their most loyal block of voters, are really afraid that Trump will be hard to beat in November.

    They were probably a Clinton rent-a-mob.

    • Agree: BB753
  261. @24AheadDotCom
    My reply to TangoMan didn't get approved, which isn't too ethical. I should get a chance to reply to those who smear me with completely personal smears.

    In any case, my earlier reply has been overtaken by events. Today Trump is sounding like what I wrote in my first comment:

    "These other people by the way, some represented Bernie, our communist friend... Now really Bernie should tell his people…he should really get up and say to his people ‘stop, stop.’"
     
    Because Trump did it wrong - including lying about Sanders - that won't have much impact. In fact, Sanders has issued a reply doubling-down on blaming Trump. That wouldn't have happened if Trump had done things the smart way: referencing a clear attempt to silence him by those who were clearly affiliated with Sanders and issuing a clear demand that Sanders denounces attempts to silence him.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers, but I think claiming partial vindication is justified.

    Meanwhile, these users didn't want Trump to call out Sanders: TangoMan, Brutusale, Harry Baldwin, Charles Erwin Wilson, Clyde, Ozymandias. They're part of the problem. Instead of demanding that Trump does smart things that would help him, they want Trump to keep up the pandering to idiots that's going to mean he'll lose in a landslide if he's the candidate. Of course, those like "TangoMan" and the rest will simply change their names to avoid any responsibility for enabling that.

    I’ve been reading your comments for over 10 years now. I remember defending you on some obscure blogs over a decade ago. My criticism has nothing to do with the idea of your message, it’s focused on your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up.

    Here’s something that might help you because right now I see you as more of an impediment to the message rather than a good messenger.

    Lots of us love being backseat drivers and believe we could improve Trump’s messaging and ideological positions, but you seem to be the only one who takes that impulse and adds the spice of denigrating everyone else in order to highlight your brilliance. Your strategy isn’t having it’s desired effect on me. Just sayin’.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers,

    See what I mean?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I have called the "Bernie as Veep to Trump!!! 1!! One!!" folk morons several times. Does it hamper my message? It probably does, but thankfully Bernie keeps backing me up.
    , @24AheadDotCom

    your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up
     
    Stop being stupid, problem solved. If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there.

    Those like "TangoMan" are hurting Trump and the general anti-amnesty movement. If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have. That fits in with my goal, even if it hurts the feelings of those like "TangoMan" who want to prevent others from doing smart things that work.

    I just want to wholesale some products. I don't want to wholesale all and I certainly don't want to do retail.
  262. @Marty T
    They're not gonna leave on their own. They'll have to be removed by force. The question is - are we prepared and motivated to do so?

    Waiting for my moment to “riot in the voting booth”.

  263. @Anon
    Yes, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit are very black, but you see, they lack that white liberal base you need to get a riot organized. It goes like this: Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city. These white liberals have contacts among the local black community, and the whites organize and arrange for the black mob to show up.

    In a nutshell, almost no white liberals live in New Orleans, Atlanta, and Detroit. The first are too traditionally southern (they were always places you moved away from if you were a liberal), and the latter is too poor and violent for white upper middles to be able to stand it. Soros can't get anything going if his army lacks what you could call 'line officers.' The black mob isn't capable of organizing itself without whites leading it.

    Soros provides the funding to the next tier, namely a network of upper-middle class white liberal activists who live in the chosen city.

    The Birch Society’s The New American always maintained that all riots, at least in America, were artificial. Astroturf afire.

  264. @TangoMan
    I've been reading your comments for over 10 years now. I remember defending you on some obscure blogs over a decade ago. My criticism has nothing to do with the idea of your message, it's focused on your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up.

    Here's something that might help you because right now I see you as more of an impediment to the message rather than a good messenger.

    Lots of us love being backseat drivers and believe we could improve Trump's messaging and ideological positions, but you seem to be the only one who takes that impulse and adds the spice of denigrating everyone else in order to highlight your brilliance. Your strategy isn't having it's desired effect on me. Just sayin'.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers,

    See what I mean?

    I have called the “Bernie as Veep to Trump!!! 1!! One!!” folk morons several times. Does it hamper my message? It probably does, but thankfully Bernie keeps backing me up.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I think there was a time early in the campaign season in which Bernie and Trump (or at least their respective supporters) could have been seen as having a lot of common ground.

    Reasonable people could disagree on the exact point that this potential alliance began to seem absurd, but at the present time I think all reasonable people would agree that the chasm is too wide to bridge. Sanders has fully thrown his lot in with predators, parasites and colonizers. No self respecting white American could support Sanders at this point.
  265. @Intelligent Dasein
    Wait a minute---you're saying there are different ballots for Democratic and Republican candidates? Where I come from, it's all on the same ballot.

    IL has separate party ballots, as do many Deep Blue states like NY. IL is an open primary; NY is a closed primary. Either way, you still have to ask for a GOP ballot at the polling station, and the unions are keeping track of your choice in order to keep you in line. I’m not sure how it works with absentees and early voting, but I doubt there’s a workaround. The Democratic party machine wouldn’t like that.

    • Replies: @MJ
    I live in IL too but are primary ballots have both sides on them even independents or Green Party.
  266. @Big Bill
    I love the close-ups of the enraged lefties. They remind me of the famous 1960s school desegregation photos: sweet little black girls in nice dresses walking peacefully to school in their Sunday dresses, heads held high, with a surging mob of angry adults barely held back by National Guardsmen. The contrast of civility and rage shocked the entire nation.

    Contra Justin, Trump does not need (or want) Brownshirts. He wants his supporters to act confident and peaceful. He wants photo-ops of enraged psycho activist leftist NAMs barely held back by a thin blue line. The more paranoid nutcases that Soros flushes out into the streets, the more mini-Fergusons he generates, the better.

    Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please.

    One thing is sure: with Soros funding more mini-Fergusons there will be plenty of opportunity for months.

    “Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please.”

    Exactly. If Trump were the “fascist” his critics say he is, he’d already have a private militia, like Mussolini’s black-shirts or Oswald Mosley’s “biff boys.” He doesn’t, and won’t.

    This said, there’s something very tempting about the Italian fascisti’s method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one’s gullet, so they’d have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result – and highly symbolic, too.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Oilboarding?
    , @Clyde

    This said, there’s something very tempting about the Italian fascisti’s method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one’s gullet, so they’d have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result – and highly symbolic, too.
     
    Thanks and never heard of this before. This castor oil remedy is hilarious! More details on it. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/965/did-mussolini-use-castor-oil-as-an-instrument-of-torture
    Will give you the extended shits probably due to the ricin (Breaking Bad) in it. Good stuff!!! lulz
  267. @Crawfurdmuir
    "Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please."

    Exactly. If Trump were the "fascist" his critics say he is, he'd already have a private militia, like Mussolini's black-shirts or Oswald Mosley's "biff boys." He doesn't, and won't.

    This said, there's something very tempting about the Italian fascisti's method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one's gullet, so they'd have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result - and highly symbolic, too.

    Oilboarding?

  268. @schmenz
    The idiots at RT Today are already spinning it in favor of the protesters. Amazing, really. Here is Trump, the only candidate to speak fairly about Putin, and here is RT, dumping on Trump.

    I know they are clueless about racial tensions in the US but RT has really outdone themselves, shooting themselves in the foot like this.

    RT America has become a real dog’s breakfast over the last year or so. I get the impression their American bureaus are staffed more and more by Salon and Huffington Post types, along with people from the Infowars end of the spectrum.

  269. @kihowi
    Trump's security should take a page out of the Israeli airport security book and decide entrance based on gut feeling. Anybody can distinguish a lefty student from a Trump supporter with perfect accuracy and they're not clever enough to fake it.

    On the other hand that would mean turning away a bunch of blacks so verboten. Really, the "heads I win tails you lose" aspect of this is remarkable.

    Many Blacks support Thrump. It would be hard to separate the Pro donald Blacks from the Anto Donald ones.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    I would imagine that checking their employment status would do the trick.
  270. @AndrewR
    a) why does Sailer allow troll comments like this when he's such a puritan about non-troll comments discussing violence

    b) why do people respond

    Why do you complain so much about your posts that don’t get approved? If one of my comments gets blocked, I either a) let it go, or b) reword it in a way that will be more likely to get through.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I just think it's cowardly of Sailer for censoring common sense JFK quotes. For a man who has written so much for the non-cucked cause, he acts like a total cuck when someone mentions violence in even the most oblique way.
  271. @AndrewR
    You are out of your mind, son. What was Trump supposed to do? Go on with the rally and guarantee mass violence in the audience? Hundreds of protesters were already in the building waiting for a fight. Imagine if he had gone on and you had thousands of people fighting in the audience.

    Trump did the only sensible thing. He needs to put the blame on Chicago and UIC police if they haven't already accepted responsibility for the shitshow.

    This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters. There was no potential for mass violence.

    Out of my mind? If you say so.

    My point was optics and how the media would play this. I had no intention of playing Sunday morning (or Saturday morning) quarterback. I didn’t suggest Trump had any alternative beyond, perhaps, being prepared for something like this (although hindsight is always 20-20).

    And I stand by my point that this was a defeat for Trump and one that he cannot allow to happen again.

    You note “This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters.” Agreed. Unfortunately, Trump’s comment from August that he wouldn’t allow the BLM do to him what they did to Bernie is being gleefully and repeatedly quoted.

    Chicago and UIC police, meanwhile, will escape unscathed. Because this fiasco will be portrayed as Trump’s own fault. This is what the media is doing — with help from some others (yes, Mr. Cruz, I am referring to you).

    It’s also a bit late to whine about violence when the other side has made it perfectly clear that that is the route they are going to take.

    This was a defeat for Trump. He cannot allow himself to be intimidated like this again. End of story.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well you're entitled to your opinion but I doubt Trump lost any votes due to cancelling the rally. People understand.

    We can point fingers all day but ultimately I'm not sure one can reasonably make the case that it would have been wise for him to appear.
  272. MJ says:

    People of Chicago, you have let the media blind you. If he was a bad choice for this country Ben Carson (a extremely intelligent man) would not be backing him. Don’t let the media warp your mind, they are working together with the government to try to get him kicked out because he won’t don’t them any favors, they can’t control him, he will clean house and get rid of the corruption if he is elected. Trump has billions, being a president doesn’t really pay that much. So stop saying he’s just in it for the money blah blah blah he could care less about the money. He is a patriot and wants to protect and uphold the constitution. He wants to keep dangerous terrorists out of our country. He is a super successful man and he will make our country successful again! He has friends in high places all over the world. No more TTP! He will establish trade routes with countries individually, no more trade deficits!!! Those people that were pushed at his rally like that one woman, she was sent in there by the media to cause a scene and then when she was told to leave her big ass wouldn’t move. How is that Trumps fault? so what if he said “get em out of here” he said the same thing when two white boys were being obnoxious at the rally I was at. He can’t control the actions of every person. That shouldn’t take away from the amazing message he has been preaching. Sooooo many people that are used to sitting on the couch all day and collecting checks from the government hate trump, oh well I wonder why? Because those people will have to get off their asses and acctually get a job if Trump gets elected. Some people need help, but a lot are just plain lazy slobs and we are tired of paying your way with our tax money!!!! Can’t believe you would try and block him from making a speech, you don’t see people who don’t like Hillary or Bernie blocking any of their speeches. But I realize this is not your fault. The media has herded you like sheep.

  273. @Crawfurdmuir
    "Heck, the more I think about it, Trumpians should bring children to Trump rallies. The visual/video/photographic contrast of screaming mobs and peaceful children would be incredibly horrifying to regular Americans. But no Trump Brownshirts. Please."

    Exactly. If Trump were the "fascist" his critics say he is, he'd already have a private militia, like Mussolini's black-shirts or Oswald Mosley's "biff boys." He doesn't, and won't.

    This said, there's something very tempting about the Italian fascisti's method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one's gullet, so they'd have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result - and highly symbolic, too.

    This said, there’s something very tempting about the Italian fascisti’s method of dealing with communists and socialists: hold them down, pinch their noses shut, and pour a bottle of castor oil down each one’s gullet, so they’d have to swallow it before being allowed to inhale. No permanent bodily harm was done, but inevitably, there followed a humiliating and uncomfortable result – and highly symbolic, too.

    Thanks and never heard of this before. This castor oil remedy is hilarious! More details on it. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/965/did-mussolini-use-castor-oil-as-an-instrument-of-torture
    Will give you the extended shits probably due to the ricin (Breaking Bad) in it. Good stuff!!! lulz

  274. @TangoMan
    I've been reading your comments for over 10 years now. I remember defending you on some obscure blogs over a decade ago. My criticism has nothing to do with the idea of your message, it's focused on your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up.

    Here's something that might help you because right now I see you as more of an impediment to the message rather than a good messenger.

    Lots of us love being backseat drivers and believe we could improve Trump's messaging and ideological positions, but you seem to be the only one who takes that impulse and adds the spice of denigrating everyone else in order to highlight your brilliance. Your strategy isn't having it's desired effect on me. Just sayin'.

    Trump did it in his own dumb way that plays to his dumb followers,

    See what I mean?

    your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up

    Stop being stupid, problem solved. If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there.

    Those like “TangoMan” are hurting Trump and the general anti-amnesty movement. If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have. That fits in with my goal, even if it hurts the feelings of those like “TangoMan” who want to prevent others from doing smart things that work.

    I just want to wholesale some products. I don’t want to wholesale all and I certainly don’t want to do retail.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there."

    Your website seems to consist of "conversations" consisting of one tweet by you and no replies, with this disclaimer: "If this user replies, it will be added to the list of tweets below. If you see no replies below, they have not replied."

    Perhaps, before claiming to be an undisputed expert in swaying public opinion, you should provide some evidence that you have swayed the opinion of one single person. Ever.
    , @TangoMan
    If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have.

    Why are you howling at the moon here in Steve's comment section? You really need to send your resume to the Trump Organization and get hired as Trump's Chief Strategy Officer for this campaign. Crying to all of us here and calling us stupid isn't doing Trump any good. Pack a suitcase, buy a bus ticket, and head over to Trump Tower, it's on 5th Avenue, in NYC, USA so it's pretty easy to find. It's Trump who needs to hear your finely honed advice, not us.
  275. @wonderbread
    IL has separate party ballots, as do many Deep Blue states like NY. IL is an open primary; NY is a closed primary. Either way, you still have to ask for a GOP ballot at the polling station, and the unions are keeping track of your choice in order to keep you in line. I'm not sure how it works with absentees and early voting, but I doubt there's a workaround. The Democratic party machine wouldn't like that.

    I live in IL too but are primary ballots have both sides on them even independents or Green Party.

    • Replies: @wonderbread
    I guess it depends on the county then, because there were two ballots in DuPage in 2012 and my cop friends in Cook have been complaining about this forever.
  276. @Daniel Williams

    I would like to think that something called ‘Kamran Siddiqui’ saying “Trump represents everything America is not ...” will garner Trump many, many votes from real Americans.
     
    What, you don't like getting lectured by a Lovecraft deity?

    I hear that Shub-Niggurath, The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, is (unsurprisingly) endorsing Bernie.

    This is what I thought of:

    Colbert Cracks Up – Suq Madiq

  277. @AndrewR
    a) why does Sailer allow troll comments like this when he's such a puritan about non-troll comments discussing violence

    b) why do people respond

    Think about it for awhile, and you may understand why.

  278. @24AheadDotCom

    your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up
     
    Stop being stupid, problem solved. If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there.

    Those like "TangoMan" are hurting Trump and the general anti-amnesty movement. If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have. That fits in with my goal, even if it hurts the feelings of those like "TangoMan" who want to prevent others from doing smart things that work.

    I just want to wholesale some products. I don't want to wholesale all and I certainly don't want to do retail.

    “If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there.”

    Your website seems to consist of “conversations” consisting of one tweet by you and no replies, with this disclaimer: “If this user replies, it will be added to the list of tweets below. If you see no replies below, they have not replied.”

    Perhaps, before claiming to be an undisputed expert in swaying public opinion, you should provide some evidence that you have swayed the opinion of one single person. Ever.

  279. @24AheadDotCom

    your habit of jumping into a comment section and shitting on everyone for being stupid and puffing yourself up
     
    Stop being stupid, problem solved. If you have personal issues with me, we can start on Twitter and work from there.

    Those like "TangoMan" are hurting Trump and the general anti-amnesty movement. If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have. That fits in with my goal, even if it hurts the feelings of those like "TangoMan" who want to prevent others from doing smart things that work.

    I just want to wholesale some products. I don't want to wholesale all and I certainly don't want to do retail.

    If Trump had done what I wrote as written or close to it, he could have undercut Bernie and more importantly reduced the power BLM and MoveOn have.

    Why are you howling at the moon here in Steve’s comment section? You really need to send your resume to the Trump Organization and get hired as Trump’s Chief Strategy Officer for this campaign. Crying to all of us here and calling us stupid isn’t doing Trump any good. Pack a suitcase, buy a bus ticket, and head over to Trump Tower, it’s on 5th Avenue, in NYC, USA so it’s pretty easy to find. It’s Trump who needs to hear your finely honed advice, not us.

  280. @Corvinus
    "However, America may no longer be viable within in current borders. That is a painful truth that your children will have to accept."

    Just because a group of organizers exercising their first amendment right to assemble, albeit at an opposing candidate's rally and in a rowdy fasion, you think "the children" have to accept this "'painful truth"?

    Last time I visited the US, large chunks of had been lost to Mexico demographically. You need to hang on to what’s left while you still can.

  281. @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, I agree with your point. And, as far as I know, Mr. 24AheadDotCom is kind of "on our side". But his act of barging on to someone else's website - someone like Steve, who has a much bigger internet following - and pushing this line of - your message is all wrong, you should do what I say if you want to influence people - is tiresome and annoying. Clearly Steve is influencing people - a lot more effectively than 24etc. is.

    Already ignored him long ago. My instincts are good

  282. @MJ
    I live in IL too but are primary ballots have both sides on them even independents or Green Party.

    I guess it depends on the county then, because there were two ballots in DuPage in 2012 and my cop friends in Cook have been complaining about this forever.

  283. @celt darnell
    Out of my mind? If you say so.

    My point was optics and how the media would play this. I had no intention of playing Sunday morning (or Saturday morning) quarterback. I didn't suggest Trump had any alternative beyond, perhaps, being prepared for something like this (although hindsight is always 20-20).

    And I stand by my point that this was a defeat for Trump and one that he cannot allow to happen again.

    You note "This is completely different from Bernie in Seattle since those black banshees were, to my knowledge, alone and could have very easily been removed from the venue by his staff or supporters." Agreed. Unfortunately, Trump's comment from August that he wouldn't allow the BLM do to him what they did to Bernie is being gleefully and repeatedly quoted.

    Chicago and UIC police, meanwhile, will escape unscathed. Because this fiasco will be portrayed as Trump's own fault. This is what the media is doing -- with help from some others (yes, Mr. Cruz, I am referring to you).

    It's also a bit late to whine about violence when the other side has made it perfectly clear that that is the route they are going to take.

    This was a defeat for Trump. He cannot allow himself to be intimidated like this again. End of story.

    Well you’re entitled to your opinion but I doubt Trump lost any votes due to cancelling the rally. People understand.

    We can point fingers all day but ultimately I’m not sure one can reasonably make the case that it would have been wise for him to appear.

  284. @Hunsdon
    Why do you complain so much about your posts that don't get approved? If one of my comments gets blocked, I either a) let it go, or b) reword it in a way that will be more likely to get through.

    I just think it’s cowardly of Sailer for censoring common sense JFK quotes. For a man who has written so much for the non-cucked cause, he acts like a total cuck when someone mentions violence in even the most oblique way.

  285. @Reg Cæsar

    His use of a colon...
     
    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write "his use of a colon"? I don't even want to think along those lines...

    I like Raimondo, but did you have to write “his use of a colon”?

    LOL.

  286. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon7
    I share your impression, but maybe Hispanics will get more serious as Trump gets closer to the nomination. This story came out before Trump decided to cancel his speech:

    A coalition of local Latino elected officials and leaders said Monday they are organizing a protest to counter Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's appearance at the University of Illinois at Chicago on Friday, while university faculty and students are objecting as well.

    Surrounded by supporters and local aldermen, Democratic U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Chicago said that the leaders are asking constituents to show up outside UIC Pavilion doors to express their opposition to Trump's candidacy.

    "We want to raise our voices because the city of Chicago has an incredibly proud tradition of being inclusive, of bringing people together," Gutierrez said. "And Mr. Trump has the tradition of division, of hatred, of bigotry, of prejudice. We are asking all of Chicago to stand up."

    Hispanic leaders across the country have been trying to draw attention to Trump's stance on immigration. He has said that, if elected, he will build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border — and try to make Mexico pay for it. He also has labeled Mexican immigrants as drug mules, rapists and criminals.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-donald-trump-rally-protest-uic-20160307-story.html
     
    I don't know why Trump doesn't make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that's why he's speaking to citizens. (This would differentiate him from Democratic candidates.)

    He should also make clear that the "big gate" in the wall would accept relatives who want to visit for a specific time. I wonder if some of the anxiety of Hispanic US citizens is over whether or not it would be difficult for them to see other family members and friends. Of course, Trump would also make clear that overstaying that "specific time" would result in fines, incarceration and deportation for breaking the law. And no more big gate for them.

    I don’t know why Trump doesn’t make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that’s why he’s speaking to citizens.

    Is he speaking to U.S. citizens? That is debatable.

    I see the entire Trump appeal as at once nationalist and internationalist, that is to say pro-Western, which we see in his constant references to European affairs, his excoriations of Merkel, his blunt criticisms of the Islamicization of Britain and France, while taking a neutral line on Israel (a non-Western state). In short, Make America Great Again is code for, let’s call it, Re-Westernizing the West after this period of slow but steady de-Westernization, ongoing now for a while.

    Trump is, then, not speaking to “U.S. citizens,” if my impression is correct, but announcing a higher ideal, one that has not been heard for decades except on the margins of politics. Millions in the USA have flocked to the banners of civilizational glory as called for by Trump; or at least the prospect of an honest defensive stand. In other words, if fall it is we are to do, let’s not go out whimpering about the marginal corporate tax rate.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    A point of evidence in favor of your analysis is the anti-refugee march which took place in Slovenia and at one point the protesters where chanting "Donald Trump."
  287. @Emblematic
    I kind of agree. Trump's not half as good as we wish he was. We mostly like him because we hate his enemies.

    At this point it’s too late to wait and hope someone better comes along.

  288. @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, I agree with your point. And, as far as I know, Mr. 24AheadDotCom is kind of "on our side". But his act of barging on to someone else's website - someone like Steve, who has a much bigger internet following - and pushing this line of - your message is all wrong, you should do what I say if you want to influence people - is tiresome and annoying. Clearly Steve is influencing people - a lot more effectively than 24etc. is.

    Yes, the incessant repetition of, “Hey, everybody, listen to me! I’m the only one here who gets it! You’re all listening to the wrong guys! You’ve got to start doing what I tell you to do!” wears thin rather quickly.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Did he ever tell us who to vote for? I missed it if he did.
  289. @Anonym
    I have called the "Bernie as Veep to Trump!!! 1!! One!!" folk morons several times. Does it hamper my message? It probably does, but thankfully Bernie keeps backing me up.

    I think there was a time early in the campaign season in which Bernie and Trump (or at least their respective supporters) could have been seen as having a lot of common ground.

    Reasonable people could disagree on the exact point that this potential alliance began to seem absurd, but at the present time I think all reasonable people would agree that the chasm is too wide to bridge. Sanders has fully thrown his lot in with predators, parasites and colonizers. No self respecting white American could support Sanders at this point.

  290. @SFG
    You must be new here.

    That guy posts troll comments here all the time, changing his pseudonym to a new set of garbled letters each time.

  291. @Harry Baldwin
    Yes, the incessant repetition of, "Hey, everybody, listen to me! I'm the only one here who gets it! You're all listening to the wrong guys! You've got to start doing what I tell you to do!" wears thin rather quickly.

    Did he ever tell us who to vote for? I missed it if he did.

  292. @Intelligent Dasein
    Wait a minute---you're saying there are different ballots for Democratic and Republican candidates? Where I come from, it's all on the same ballot.

    Massachusetts is the same way; each party gets its own ballot and you have to declare which ballot you want if you’re an independent voter. The added kicker is you immediately have to go to the city clerk’s office and change your registration back to independent or you’ll remain on the rolls under the party you took the primary ballot for.

  293. @flyingtiger
    Many Blacks support Thrump. It would be hard to separate the Pro donald Blacks from the Anto Donald ones.

    I would imagine that checking their employment status would do the trick.

  294. @Neoconned
    Trump was rushed today by another sjw/blm type:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N8PyJb-tDl0&feature=youtu.be

    Trump did not back down and his body language indicated he was going to punch the guy until the secret service swarmed him.

    Now sanders has come out in support of the protesters last night. Can’t believe some people on this site liked bernie. He is turning full Bolshevik now with supporting violence against speech!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DannyEFreeman/status/708704342665240577

    Maybe trump supporters should start swarming bernie and hillary rallies with screaming and chanting over the speakers, and watch how quickly the left starts squealing!

    “Can’t believe some people on this site liked bernie.”

    When the facts change, I change my opinions. You can look up my old comments where I thought Merkel was doing a good job. 😉

  295. @Neoconned
    An entertaining response would be pointing out that the group of thugs calling him a nazi are largely funded by a former snitch for the actual nazis, george soros. Or the people who read the ny times and call trump a fascist are reading a paper that has a large shareholder -who also loaned the times millions of dollars - with close family members involved in actual fascist political parties in Lebanon.

    Or even mentioing all of the innocent women and kids obama - with approval from hillary - has killed with drone strikes in the mid east. Or hillary' disaster in libya. Of course, saying mean words is a lot worse than murdering thousands of innocent people - because some redneck punching someone five decades younger is obviously due to trump's mean words, while starting wars and blowing away kids with indiscriminate drone strikes that a stanford study estimated killed forty eight civilians for every actual terrorist - including obama blowing away a 16 year old us citizen - has nothing to do with violence or inciting actual terrorists around the world to return the favor.

    Outstanding comment. I will use it on my misguided friends supporting Cruz, Bern, or Cankles.

  296. @Hail

    I don’t know why Trump doesn’t make it more explicit that he intends to be the President of the United States, and that’s why he’s speaking to citizens.
     
    Is he speaking to U.S. citizens? That is debatable.

    I see the entire Trump appeal as at once nationalist and internationalist, that is to say pro-Western, which we see in his constant references to European affairs, his excoriations of Merkel, his blunt criticisms of the Islamicization of Britain and France, while taking a neutral line on Israel (a non-Western state). In short, Make America Great Again is code for, let's call it, Re-Westernizing the West after this period of slow but steady de-Westernization, ongoing now for a while.

    Trump is, then, not speaking to "U.S. citizens," if my impression is correct, but announcing a higher ideal, one that has not been heard for decades except on the margins of politics. Millions in the USA have flocked to the banners of civilizational glory as called for by Trump; or at least the prospect of an honest defensive stand. In other words, if fall it is we are to do, let's not go out whimpering about the marginal corporate tax rate.

    A point of evidence in favor of your analysis is the anti-refugee march which took place in Slovenia and at one point the protesters where chanting “Donald Trump.”

  297. IA says:
    @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    I spent a lazy evening glued to cnn as they signaled subtly that something was being set up to show that Trump rallies were encouraging violence. Would love to see whatever replaced Journolist. Trump wisely sensed he was being set up and opted out. The experts were all in lockstep pretending this is Trump’s fault afterward anyway...The real question is: what tactics could Trump do to flip the media’s frame?... Outright pin the protests on Soros and call him out by name? Say Bernie cannot control his goons? Start disrupting Hillary speeches? Stick to a defense of free speech? It seems like the rallies are going to be taken off his table if he cannot police protesters. Shame, as they are outrageously entertaining to watch on youtube.
    Also...Obama skipping Nancy Reagan’s funeral today and instead giving an odd speech (where he sounded a little tipsy) at South by Southwest was amusing. Combined with him throwing the blame for Libya on Cameron, it makes me wonder if he is taking a little breakdown over the rise of Trump.

    The real question is: what tactics could Trump do to flip the media’s frame?

    Since they all blame Trump for being divisive I’d repeatedly remind people of Obama’s “bring a gun to a knife fight” and “reward your friends, punish your enemies” and many more memorable quotes.

    I’d hammer away at “hater, bigot racist” routinely used to incite violence; comparing Trump and by extension his supporters to Hitler as incitement; and the $PLC labeling the FRC as a hate group which set off a near massacre. In fact, I’d ask why the $PLC is being used to indoctrinate government and military personnel.

    I would identify media and political opponents with incitement to such a degree that it becomes subliminal and unconscious in voters’ minds. In other words, fight fire with fire.

  298. @Rob McX
    I know. But when non-whites become the majority, their interests will trump those of whites because, besides the fact of their superior numbers, non-whites are ethnocentric and race-conscious. The white liberals who ally themselves with them are fools who believe in racial equality - a delusion not shared by other races.

    “But when non-whites become the majority, their interests will trump those of whites because…”

    Assuming that non-whites will be unified. I keep hearing that Hispanics and blacks don’t get along. What makes you think they will join forces to take out whites, especially if they give “free stuff”?

    “non-whites are ethnocentric and race-conscious.”

    SOME, not all.

    “The white liberals who ally themselves with them are fools who believe in racial equality – a delusion not shared by other races.”

    Not shared by SOME by other races.

  299. “Not shared by SOME by other races.”

    Name one that does not.

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