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Recently, I mentioned that modern America seems to be drifting toward Rule By Actresses in which the complaints and antics of actresses dominate public affairs. While not unknown in history (e.g., Peronista Argentina), this is a fairly novel concept in human thought judging by how not only is there no Greek or Latin word for “rule by actresses,” but how the phrase had never been used in the history of the Internet before. As I summed up:

I hope it works out well for us.

Today’s news in which 65-year-old actress Roseanne Barr, having pulled off one of the more stunning comebacks in TV history — first reassembling her great supporting cast (John Goodman, Laurie Metcalfe, etc.) and then winning giant ratings — blew up her revived “Roseanne” show with a pretty suicidal tweet reminds us again of why the concept of Rule By Actresses had never occurred to any political political theorist before.

 
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  1. But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn’t ‘Rule by Actresses’.

    It may be true that there is ‘Rule by Actresses who are or at least once were pretty’.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Thomm


    But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn’t ‘Rule by Actresses’.
     
    Ah, but the swiftness and severity of the consequences reveal that it was a transgression by one of the inner Party.

    Examples must be made, to encourage the others.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Truth

  2. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    This is like a week after quitting and un-quitting Twitter over “anti-Semitism”:

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/05/19/roseanne-barr-quits-twitter-over-anti-semitism-but-stays-after-users-convinced-her.html

    Roseanne Barr called it quits with Twitter Saturday morning over “anti-Semitism,” but her resolve didn’t last long, as ardent fans “convinced” her to “stay (with) them.”

    The “Roseanne” sitcom star decided to leave “all social media,” aside from Instagram, over concerns that they provide a platform for “ant-Semitism.”

    i already deleted facebook five years ago when the anti semitism there became toxic. I am leaving all social media except instagram.
    — Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 19, 2018

    She said the decision to leave was made “in good conscience.”

    I must in good conscience leave Twitter. bye bye!
    — Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 19, 2018

  3. Roseanne has a long history of crazy stuff so it’s not like she was an unknown. Still, cancelling a top-rated show over a tweet seems a bit much. She grovelled as required but too late.

    • Replies: @cliff arroyo
    @Jim Don Bob

    Yeah, she's always been pretty unstabled, even by the lax standards of Hollywood

    But apologizing was her downful, grovelling is never enough. The only tactic with any chance of success is to go on the attack...

    "How DARE you suggest I was being racist, you racist racists!"

    "I was referring to the dystopian governmnet of PotA, how racist is you to associate her with monkeys! Racist much!"

    It probably wouldn't work either but there's some chance of success while apologizing never works except to rile up the mob even more.

  4. Apparently her outrageous behavior–a trash-talking female comedienne was her calling card prior to her sitcom–was not on hiatus, or in retirement, as network executives presumably thought.

    And like others of late-middle age, Roseanne (perhaps) did not anticipate that her shrillness would not be excused by the PC/SJW cultural mandarins as part of her act/charm/attraction.

  5. Maybe you can discover such civilizations by archaeology. Statues of famous actresses, stars on the sidewalk. Kind of like the stone heads of Easter Island.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonym


    Nature will re-assert herself and the seasons gently obliterate the vast, deserted suburb. Its history will pass from memory to legend until, centuries later, as we have supposed, the archaeologists prick their ears at the cryptic references in the texts of the twentieth century to a cult which once flourished on this forgotten strand; of the idol Oscar - sexless image of infertility - of the great Star Goddesses who were once noisily worshipped there in a Holy Wood.
     

    Replies: @bomag

  6. Have to say you were quite prescient in your prognostication Steve! Roseanne’s antics of today have completely dominated the news and social media today. Wasn’t there supposed to be something or other about synchronized struggle sessions at all Starbucks today? I can’t seem to find anything about that in the news . . .

  7. I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that Roseanne Barr would tweet something inappropriate. I’m sure that ABC executives couldn’t possibly imagine it.

    Roseanne infuriated the Leftist media by creating an overwhelmingly popular show that actually permitted people in families with different views to talk about Trump and other political issues, rather than just shut up and toe the libtard line.

    And so they shot her down, first chance they got.

  8. > Today’s news in which 65-year-old actress Roseanne Barr, having pulled off one of the more stunning comebacks in TV history… blew up her revived “Roseanne” show with a pretty suicidal tweet

    with a petty, suicidal tweet.

    • Replies: @anon
    @ic1000

    It's still sort of amusing, though, that if you're a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.

    https://youtu.be/ohzoKsdw7VY

    Or, if you're a different black guy, you can go on a podcast and admit to having a career as a strong-arm bank robber, and still have a career on Law & Order: SVU for almost two decades.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Rosie

  9. Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh: she was at Krochs & Brentanos bookstore on Wabash downtown Chicago in the basement pushing some book decades ago.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Joe Stalin


    Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh
     
    ...and quite a bit of flesh it was.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    , @MBlanc46
    @Joe Stalin

    The late, lamented Kroch’s. I spent many hours, and dollars, in that store.

  10. When I was a young soldier reading Vdare many moons ago I learned of the “Turbas Divinas” of the Sandinista regime.

    A similar dynamic is playing out here. On many levels.

  11. In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap. Nor for allegedly photographing a woman who was shocked to find out her consenting to go to the home basement of a former Navy SEAL was interpreted as a willingness to have sex, but for campaign finance peccadilloes that came out as a result of the sex investigation.

    A couple days ago a commenter here perceptively suggested #MeToo was a covert force retirement scheme. It may be that, but it now also looks like a new prosecutorial tool: if you get a license to turn over all the rocks you want because shut up you sexist, you are bound to find other things wriggling underneath them.

    • Replies: @Berty
    @The Man From K Street

    To hell with him, now at least he won't drag Josh Hawley down.

    Replies: @bartok

    , @Corvinus
    @The Man From K Street

    "In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap."

    Having an affair while in public office is not a good look, nor was he in any position to "beat the #MeToo rap" considering his reported sexual actions with his stylist.

    "Recently, I mentioned that modern America seems to be drifting toward Rule By Actresses in which the complaints and antics of actresses dominate public affairs."

    Pales in comparison to Niwdog’s Law on this fine blog--As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    , @Twinkie
    @The Man From K Street


    Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap.
     
    1. I am not sure about that. 2. Of all the former SEALs, it had to be a Jewish one who gets ensnared in the #MeToo thing.
  12. Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Lot

    Jarret looks a lot like Roseanne, making this whole thing extra rich.

    If Jarret has any class she'll say "it was a rude tweet but I accept her apology and don't think the show should be cancelled."

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anon

    , @JimB
    @Lot

    Hm, come to think of it, Valerie Jarrett does look vaguely like Maurice Evans.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Lot

    Doesn't Valerie Jarrett have a striking similarity to the 2015 iSteve Man of the Year?



    https://www.unz.com/isteve/announcing-the-2015-male-of-the-year/

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Lot

    Jarret is actually quite pleasant looking as far as middle-aged American women go.

    What makes her so scary isn't how she looks, rather her smug, elitist, condescending & power-hungry disposition that makes her more resemble the dreadful Nurse Ratched than any cuddly monkey.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Nurse_Ratched.jpg

    Of course the actress who portrayed that monstrous character was also quite a handsome woman.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Lagertha
    @Lot

    I so wanna type - but VJ is central to so much stuff.

    , @Alden
    @Lot

    thanks for the pictures

    Both have good facelifts. Kudos to Roseanne for having a neck lift too.

    I like both hairstyles.

    Roseanne made a great chick flick movie. She was a stay at home housewife 2 kids. Her husband was an accountant one of his clients was a glamorous writer of romance novels

    Husband left Roseanne for writer. Roseanne left the kids with the husband and writer, went home, burnt the house down and wreaked revenge on husband and writer.

    Great movie

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    , @EH
    @Lot

    Is the magic drop the 1/8th Jewish or the 1/8th Black?

    Replies: @Anon

  13. Anonymous [AKA "ToxicTerry"] says:

    Roseanne’s show was only scheduled to run 8 episodes, and they actually ran for 9. So there was no show to cancel. But no doubt ABC had an option clause (assuming all the cast members also had contract extension language) and now Roseanne can pull a Charlie Sheen and move the show to Netflix or Fox or whomever comes up with the best deal for what is now NOT a gamble but a proven ratings winner.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    ABC had already announced they were picking it up for another season after its massive ratings this season. So there was a show to cancel.

  14. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    Jarret looks a lot like Roseanne, making this whole thing extra rich.

    If Jarret has any class she’ll say “it was a rude tweet but I accept her apology and don’t think the show should be cancelled.”

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @AndrewR

    If the Pope is Islamic he'll say "Allahu Akbar."

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @27 year old

    , @Anon
    @AndrewR

    Roseanne said she thought Jarrett was Jewish, Saudi, or something else.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  15. Here’s my opinion on why the news in inundated with the foibles of actresses.
    It’s used to hide from us proles & peons the truth

    Things like the anti trust laws haven’t been enforced for like 70 years, wages stagnate prices rise, Amazon pays no taxes, immigration causes environmental degradation and high cost of housing resulting in homeless on and on it goes.

    The so called quality media is just another version of TMZ so as to hide the truth.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Alden

    This is so true. So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime ...

    Replies: @dfordoom

  16. • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    https://twitter.com/angusparvo/status/1001525158174183424

    Replies: @Twinkie

  17. Her tweet was perfectly in character. It’s why people watch Roseanne, so they aren’t going to learn the “correct lesson” from this cancellation.

    The left is getting so preachy and authoritarian that she’ll get away with it in public opinion and come to be seen as a martyr.

  18. This story overshadows my OT comment: Dinner out Sunday night. Guess who sat not 5 feet away from me at the bar, happily watching the b-ball playoffs: Wait for it..Billy Corgan.
    When he left I said,”Hi.” He said hi back.
    A guy like me is way too cool to bother a celebrity.

    And now Roseanne.
    Well VJ is not an attractive woman,is she? Isn’t that one reason she had the feud with the other Chicago lite skinned black lady?

    • Replies: @Mishra
    @Father O'Hara


    Dinner out Sunday night. Guess who sat not 5 feet away from me at the bar, happily watching the b-ball playoffs: Wait for it..Billy Corgan.
    When he left I said,”Hi.” He said hi back.
    A guy like me is way too cool to bother a celebrity.
     
    What is the point of this? You bothered a (minor) "celebrity" (or "has-been") but you're "way too cool" to bother a celebrity? Is this some kind of 4-D irony? Sorry but I'm missing the point here.
  19. anon[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @ic1000
    > Today’s news in which 65-year-old actress Roseanne Barr, having pulled off one of the more stunning comebacks in TV history... blew up her revived “Roseanne” show with a pretty suicidal tweet

    with a petty, suicidal tweet.

    Replies: @anon

    It’s still sort of amusing, though, that if you’re a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids’ Choice Awards.

    Or, if you’re a different black guy, you can go on a podcast and admit to having a career as a strong-arm bank robber, and still have a career on Law & Order: SVU for almost two decades.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @anon

    Ice Cube now makes kids movies. He's also the guy Bill Maher humiliated himself before for saying the N word in a joke a couple of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8JEkMGBvk

    The song starts at 1:48. Before that is some context.

    , @Rosie
    @anon


    It’s still sort of amusing, though, that if you’re a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids’ Choice Awards.
     
    Our interests and well-being are not a priority for the Establishment Left.
  20. @eah
    https://twitter.com/WhitePillPopper/status/1001533826823311360

    Replies: @eah

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @eah

    Now this is the right move.

  21. @The Man From K Street
    In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap. Nor for allegedly photographing a woman who was shocked to find out her consenting to go to the home basement of a former Navy SEAL was interpreted as a willingness to have sex, but for campaign finance peccadilloes that came out as a result of the sex investigation.

    A couple days ago a commenter here perceptively suggested #MeToo was a covert force retirement scheme. It may be that, but it now also looks like a new prosecutorial tool: if you get a license to turn over all the rocks you want because shut up you sexist, you are bound to find other things wriggling underneath them.

    Replies: @Berty, @Corvinus, @Twinkie

    To hell with him, now at least he won’t drag Josh Hawley down.

    • Replies: @bartok
    @Berty


    To hell with him, now at least he won’t drag Josh Hawley down.
     
    Better a Democrat than a Cuckservative. Hawley is no immigration restrictionist, so to hell with Hawley. He can lift weights with Paul Ryan in the private sector.
  22. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    Hm, come to think of it, Valerie Jarrett does look vaguely like Maurice Evans.

  23. Lot says:

    Cancelling Season 2 (or 11) isn’t enough, she must be unpersoned, erased from all memory. Not even 12 hours into her insult upon the majesty of oppressed Valerie Jarret, all episodes of Roseanne pulled from Hulu, and reruns of the old show to stop on CMT, TV Land, and Paramount Network.

    They can gloat now, and cry when we hold on to the House and Senate.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ava/status/1001523239691010049

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lot

    That is hardly adequate. Google should deindex the very term "Roseanne" and should report you to the Leeds Crown Court if you even type R-O-S-E. It is the year 2018!

  24. Once again we see that the left only supports free speech when they agree with what the person is saying. If the person says something that the left disagrees with then the speaker is accused of engaging in “hate speech”. For the last couple of years, the left has been engaged in an almost ceaseless attack on Donald Trump and his supporters but nothing happens because Trump and his supporters are white conservatives and you are allowed to say whatever you like about them.

    • Replies: @leopard
    @Joe Walker

    Altright never supported free speech.

    Replies: @Anon, @bomag

  25. Ed says:

    More like rule by journalists with twitter accounts. In the AM they were demanding ABC answer for her tweet by noon her show was cancelled.

    Now reports are emerging ABC execs were selling Roseanne’s crazy tweets during upfronts. Somewhat disappointed Trump didn’t mention her tonight but it wasn’t his rally per se. oh well what a pity.

  26. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonym
    Maybe you can discover such civilizations by archaeology. Statues of famous actresses, stars on the sidewalk. Kind of like the stone heads of Easter Island.

    Replies: @Anon

    Nature will re-assert herself and the seasons gently obliterate the vast, deserted suburb. Its history will pass from memory to legend until, centuries later, as we have supposed, the archaeologists prick their ears at the cryptic references in the texts of the twentieth century to a cult which once flourished on this forgotten strand; of the idol Oscar – sexless image of infertility – of the great Star Goddesses who were once noisily worshipped there in a Holy Wood.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anon

    Excellent.

  27. Good set of pix. That was basically my first thought on reading the Roseanne tweet: this is supposed to be insulting to black? But Valerie Jarrett looks 15/16ths white.

  28. Jim Goad mentioned this article last week in his Week That Perished column

    https://www.theroot.com/when-will-donald-trump-say-the-n-word-1820850846

    Not hard to imagine Trump running against, say, Eric Holder and some disgruntled acquaintance claiming he heard Trump use the word back in the 1980s

  29. We should assign a different simian group to each of the 52 types of humans.

    I claim Orangutans for my group.

    • Replies: @Cato
    @Goatweed

    Louis Farrakhan makes speeches (to black audiences) where he describes whites as "rats"--because rats and whites both have pink skin and straight hair.

  30. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile Netflix runs an entire blacksplainin’ series called,”Dear White People” and Key and Peele put out numerous anti-white racist skits, including plenty in whiteface, and it’s all just black creativity to be praised, not the slightest talk in MSM about racism.

  31. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    Doesn’t Valerie Jarrett have a striking similarity to the 2015 iSteve Man of the Year?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/announcing-the-2015-male-of-the-year/

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Jarrett’s nice looking. It’s her racist communist heart and soul that’s the problem.

  32. @Berty
    @The Man From K Street

    To hell with him, now at least he won't drag Josh Hawley down.

    Replies: @bartok

    To hell with him, now at least he won’t drag Josh Hawley down.

    Better a Democrat than a Cuckservative. Hawley is no immigration restrictionist, so to hell with Hawley. He can lift weights with Paul Ryan in the private sector.

  33. For Rule by Actresses, how about Thespocracy?

  34. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    Jarret is actually quite pleasant looking as far as middle-aged American women go.

    What makes her so scary isn’t how she looks, rather her smug, elitist, condescending & power-hungry disposition that makes her more resemble the dreadful Nurse Ratched than any cuddly monkey.

    Of course the actress who portrayed that monstrous character was also quite a handsome woman.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    Jarrett looks more like a Romulan or a Vulcan from Star Trek than anyone from Planet of the Apes.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  35. Given the historical baggage America carries around about race issues, I understand why people get offended about any simian inference to a black person.

    Having said that I really do think VJ looks like a cross between Louis Farrakhan and the Ari character from the Planet of the Apes. It’s actually a funny observation. We live in an era so much more censorious than the Victorian Era or the US of the 1950s. How sad.

  36. Time for Mike Judge to bring back Beavis and Butthead:

    1990 Bad music videos
    2010 Reality TV
    2018 #Metoo, CNN, and actress commentary

    • Replies: @Lot
    @JimB

    He did in 2011. One new season almost exactly like the old ones, but 14 years later. It was a pleasant surprise. MTV did not renew it despite Judge's interest.

  37. Interestingly, given that she represents the epitome of white proleness, Roseanne is VERY Jewish ancestrally.

    Also interesting that six years ago she published George Zimmerman’s parents’ address as a participant in the lynch mob. Now she’s tweeting this. How “red pilled” have Americans become in the last decade?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Uilleam Yr Alban


    Also interesting that six years ago she published George Zimmerman’s parents’ address as a participant in the lynch mob. Now she’s tweeting this. How “red pilled” have Americans become in the last decade?
     
    I can't help but think this sort of overreach is ultimately bad for the Left and good for the White Right. No one is safe, virtue signaling provides no immunity from the Leftist mob.
  38. @AndrewR
    @Lot

    Jarret looks a lot like Roseanne, making this whole thing extra rich.

    If Jarret has any class she'll say "it was a rude tweet but I accept her apology and don't think the show should be cancelled."

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anon

    If the Pope is Islamic he’ll say “Allahu Akbar.”

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Hibernian


    If the Pope is Islamic he’ll say “Allahu Akbar.”
     
    The Pope is an atheist.

    Replies: @Johnnydub

    , @27 year old
    @Hibernian

    This will be a lot less funny in 10 years when there literally is an Islamic pope.

    Hell the chump pope they got now is liable to say allahu Akbar any day now at the rate he's been going

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew, @Benjaminl

  39. @Hibernian
    @AndrewR

    If the Pope is Islamic he'll say "Allahu Akbar."

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @27 year old

    If the Pope is Islamic he’ll say “Allahu Akbar.”

    The Pope is an atheist.

    • Replies: @Johnnydub
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The Pope is a communist.

  40. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:

    Roseanne Barr probably thought being a jew gives her a pass to be salty. Guess again. There is a certain group more sacred than the jews, ironically thanks to the jews.

    Oh well her last few episodes weren’t that great anyway, cucking over muslims and illegals. Rating probably dropped like a rock. No love lost.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @anon


    Oh well her last few episodes weren’t that great anyway, cucking over muslims and illegals. Rating probably dropped like a rock.
     
    She's wasn't posting anonymously on a blog; she was starring in a hugely popular broadcast TV sitcom, so you have to bear that in mind when you toss around words like "cucking". A contractor hiring illegals to undercut Dan's drywall business was shown as the disaster it is. And the Muslim neighbors, though friendly, were on food stamps. Showing that immigration has brought Muslim immigrants to flyover country and that they're often a drain on the fisc is pretty radical for a mainstream sitcom. A lot of feathers on the left were ruffled by it.

    Replies: @Lot

  41. Rule by Actresses = Ditzocracy.

  42. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    I so wanna type – but VJ is central to so much stuff.

  43. @Hibernian
    @AndrewR

    If the Pope is Islamic he'll say "Allahu Akbar."

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @27 year old

    This will be a lot less funny in 10 years when there literally is an Islamic pope.

    Hell the chump pope they got now is liable to say allahu Akbar any day now at the rate he’s been going

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @27 year old

    What are you talking about? The Pope says "God is great" all day long!

    Replies: @Anon

    , @International Jew
    @27 year old

    Sigh, and we lost our best shot at getting a Jewish pope, when Jean-Marie Lustiger died.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    , @Benjaminl
    @27 year old

    Not if the next pope is Based Cardinal Sarah:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKMLoTSioE


    "What worries you?"

    "You know, the biggest worry is that Europe doesn't want any more, or has lost the sense of its origins. It has lost its roots. Yet, a tree without roots will die. And I'm afraid that the West will die. There are plenty of signs. No more natality. You are invaded, still, by other cultures, other peoples which will progressively dominate you by their number and completely change your culture, your convictions, your morality."

    The guy is practically a White Supremacist...

  44. Funny but this story was the first time I read reported anywhere in the last 13 years that VJ had personal ties to Iran, born in Shiraz and having spent her first five years there, while her father created and ran the children’s hospital under Pahlavi.

    Her father was James Bowman, communist.

  45. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5784985/Donald-Trump-Jr-retweets-Roseanne-Barrs-anti-Semitic-tweets.html

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can’t call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Those two tweets about George Soros were particularly ballsy and dead on target.

    Go Roseanne!

    , @anon
    @Rosamond Vincy


    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can’t call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?
     
    A black guy or a muslim.
    , @Lagertha
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Exactly - Roseanne was red-pilled long ago. She is apologized for her joke. But, Valerie was the mastermind behind the slogan: Change is Coming.

    , @Anonymous
    @Rosamond Vincy

    IIRC she was raised Jewish in Utah, where Jews are Gentiles.
    Indeed, especially Gentile.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

  46. @Joe Stalin
    Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh: she was at Krochs & Brentanos bookstore on Wabash downtown Chicago in the basement pushing some book decades ago.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @MBlanc46

    Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh

    …and quite a bit of flesh it was.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Dr. X

    Indeed. I wonder who the lucky fellow was that had her on his casting couch first.

  47. @Rosamond Vincy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5784985/Donald-Trump-Jr-retweets-Roseanne-Barrs-anti-Semitic-tweets.html

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can't call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Lagertha, @Anonymous

    Those two tweets about George Soros were particularly ballsy and dead on target.

    Go Roseanne!

  48. @Rosamond Vincy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5784985/Donald-Trump-Jr-retweets-Roseanne-Barrs-anti-Semitic-tweets.html

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can't call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Lagertha, @Anonymous

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can’t call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    A black guy or a muslim.

  49. @Rosamond Vincy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5784985/Donald-Trump-Jr-retweets-Roseanne-Barrs-anti-Semitic-tweets.html

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can't call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Lagertha, @Anonymous

    Exactly – Roseanne was red-pilled long ago. She is apologized for her joke. But, Valerie was the mastermind behind the slogan: Change is Coming.

  50. @27 year old
    @Hibernian

    This will be a lot less funny in 10 years when there literally is an Islamic pope.

    Hell the chump pope they got now is liable to say allahu Akbar any day now at the rate he's been going

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew, @Benjaminl

    What are you talking about? The Pope says “God is great” all day long!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @snorlax

    Methinks you have the wrong Holy Father in mind.

  51. @snorlax
    @27 year old

    What are you talking about? The Pope says "God is great" all day long!

    Replies: @Anon

    Methinks you have the wrong Holy Father in mind.

  52. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5784985/Donald-Trump-Jr-retweets-Roseanne-Barrs-anti-Semitic-tweets.html

    As others have pointed out, Barr was raised Jewish. If she can't call notorious collaborator Soros a Nazi, who can?

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Lagertha, @Anonymous

    IIRC she was raised Jewish in Utah, where Jews are Gentiles.
    Indeed, especially Gentile.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @Anonymous

    Actually, she had a story about turning to some LDS folks for help when she was in the middle of a psychotic episode or a bad acid trip, or whatever it was.

    Replies: @JimB

  53. @JimB
    Time for Mike Judge to bring back Beavis and Butthead:

    1990 Bad music videos
    2010 Reality TV
    2018 #Metoo, CNN, and actress commentary

    Replies: @Lot

    He did in 2011. One new season almost exactly like the old ones, but 14 years later. It was a pleasant surprise. MTV did not renew it despite Judge’s interest.

  54. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish-Black Alliance is on thin ice but crucial in controlling white pride and power.

    The Narrative says the only people whose tragedy is comparable to that of Jews are blacks.

    So, the alliance is loaded with symbolism.

    Donald Sterling violated it. So did the weird guy on Seinfeld. And now Rosanne.

  55. @Goatweed
    We should assign a different simian group to each of the 52 types of humans.

    I claim Orangutans for my group.

    Replies: @Cato

    Louis Farrakhan makes speeches (to black audiences) where he describes whites as “rats”–because rats and whites both have pink skin and straight hair.

  56. @Anonymous
    @Rosamond Vincy

    IIRC she was raised Jewish in Utah, where Jews are Gentiles.
    Indeed, especially Gentile.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Actually, she had a story about turning to some LDS folks for help when she was in the middle of a psychotic episode or a bad acid trip, or whatever it was.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Beavis and Butthead are a kind post-structural commentary on idiotic cultural phenomena. Like I said, first music videos, then in 2011 reality TV. Clearly the laugh lines for Beavis and Butthead watching CNN, the Grammy's, the Oscars, and any other award show featuring celebrities write themselves.

  57. @The Man From K Street
    In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap. Nor for allegedly photographing a woman who was shocked to find out her consenting to go to the home basement of a former Navy SEAL was interpreted as a willingness to have sex, but for campaign finance peccadilloes that came out as a result of the sex investigation.

    A couple days ago a commenter here perceptively suggested #MeToo was a covert force retirement scheme. It may be that, but it now also looks like a new prosecutorial tool: if you get a license to turn over all the rocks you want because shut up you sexist, you are bound to find other things wriggling underneath them.

    Replies: @Berty, @Corvinus, @Twinkie

    “In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap.”

    Having an affair while in public office is not a good look, nor was he in any position to “beat the #MeToo rap” considering his reported sexual actions with his stylist.

    “Recently, I mentioned that modern America seems to be drifting toward Rule By Actresses in which the complaints and antics of actresses dominate public affairs.”

    Pales in comparison to Niwdog’s Law on this fine blog–As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

  58. Never tweet when drunk! That’s my theory. Covfefe!

    • Replies: @Alden
    @BB753

    Me too

  59. @AndrewR
    @Lot

    Jarret looks a lot like Roseanne, making this whole thing extra rich.

    If Jarret has any class she'll say "it was a rude tweet but I accept her apology and don't think the show should be cancelled."

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Anon

    Roseanne said she thought Jarrett was Jewish, Saudi, or something else.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and spoke Farsi as a child, rather like Obama speaking some Bahasa Indonesian (now forgotten). This African American who is also a Citizen of the World aspect of VJ helps explain her grip on the former President.

  60. It would have been more accurate to describe Jarrett as the offspring of a union between Hezbollah and the Communist Party of the USA – she was born in Shi’ite Iran, while her father, maternal grandfather, and father-in-law were all commies.

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

    George W. Bush was caricatured as a chimpanzee. Indeed, Abraham Lincoln was called “the original gorilla” by no less than Union General George B. McClellan. Why were not these unflattering remarks denounced as “racist,” yet any comparison of the high-yaller Jarrett to an ape is? Is the resemblance in her case rather too close for comfort?

  61. @Anonymous
    Roseanne's show was only scheduled to run 8 episodes, and they actually ran for 9. So there was no show to cancel. But no doubt ABC had an option clause (assuming all the cast members also had contract extension language) and now Roseanne can pull a Charlie Sheen and move the show to Netflix or Fox or whomever comes up with the best deal for what is now NOT a gamble but a proven ratings winner.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    ABC had already announced they were picking it up for another season after its massive ratings this season. So there was a show to cancel.

  62. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Lot

    Jarret is actually quite pleasant looking as far as middle-aged American women go.

    What makes her so scary isn't how she looks, rather her smug, elitist, condescending & power-hungry disposition that makes her more resemble the dreadful Nurse Ratched than any cuddly monkey.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Nurse_Ratched.jpg

    Of course the actress who portrayed that monstrous character was also quite a handsome woman.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Jarrett looks more like a Romulan or a Vulcan from Star Trek than anyone from Planet of the Apes.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Dave Pinsen


    Jarrett looks more like a Romulan or a Vulcan from Star Trek than anyone from Planet of the Apes.
     
    That was pretty funny... and you are right. She does.
  63. I respond to a woman offering an explainer on why it’s okay to call Trump an orangutang but Roseanne’s Planet of the Apes tweet was beyond the pale.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Dave Pinsen


    Roseanne's ape comment is racist because of longterm established racist tropes tying POC to apes. Also, her context.
     
    It's always something, isn't it? Your answer to her was very much on point.
  64. @anon
    Roseanne Barr probably thought being a jew gives her a pass to be salty. Guess again. There is a certain group more sacred than the jews, ironically thanks to the jews.

    Oh well her last few episodes weren't that great anyway, cucking over muslims and illegals. Rating probably dropped like a rock. No love lost.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Oh well her last few episodes weren’t that great anyway, cucking over muslims and illegals. Rating probably dropped like a rock.

    She’s wasn’t posting anonymously on a blog; she was starring in a hugely popular broadcast TV sitcom, so you have to bear that in mind when you toss around words like “cucking”. A contractor hiring illegals to undercut Dan’s drywall business was shown as the disaster it is. And the Muslim neighbors, though friendly, were on food stamps. Showing that immigration has brought Muslim immigrants to flyover country and that they’re often a drain on the fisc is pretty radical for a mainstream sitcom. A lot of feathers on the left were ruffled by it.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen

    And it is a black guy in a union who Dan has to replace with an illegal to win his next contract.

    And of course the actors playing Ann-Marie and Chuck are now out of work IRL too.

  65. @Anon
    @AndrewR

    Roseanne said she thought Jarrett was Jewish, Saudi, or something else.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and spoke Farsi as a child, rather like Obama speaking some Bahasa Indonesian (now forgotten). This African American who is also a Citizen of the World aspect of VJ helps explain her grip on the former President.

  66. @Jim Don Bob
    Roseanne has a long history of crazy stuff so it's not like she was an unknown. Still, cancelling a top-rated show over a tweet seems a bit much. She grovelled as required but too late.

    Replies: @cliff arroyo

    Yeah, she’s always been pretty unstabled, even by the lax standards of Hollywood

    But apologizing was her downful, grovelling is never enough. The only tactic with any chance of success is to go on the attack…

    “How DARE you suggest I was being racist, you racist racists!”

    “I was referring to the dystopian governmnet of PotA, how racist is you to associate her with monkeys! Racist much!”

    It probably wouldn’t work either but there’s some chance of success while apologizing never works except to rile up the mob even more.

  67. @Rosamond Vincy
    @Anonymous

    Actually, she had a story about turning to some LDS folks for help when she was in the middle of a psychotic episode or a bad acid trip, or whatever it was.

    Replies: @JimB

    Beavis and Butthead are a kind post-structural commentary on idiotic cultural phenomena. Like I said, first music videos, then in 2011 reality TV. Clearly the laugh lines for Beavis and Butthead watching CNN, the Grammy’s, the Oscars, and any other award show featuring celebrities write themselves.

  68. @anon
    @ic1000

    It's still sort of amusing, though, that if you're a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.

    https://youtu.be/ohzoKsdw7VY

    Or, if you're a different black guy, you can go on a podcast and admit to having a career as a strong-arm bank robber, and still have a career on Law & Order: SVU for almost two decades.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Rosie

    Ice Cube now makes kids movies. He’s also the guy Bill Maher humiliated himself before for saying the N word in a joke a couple of years ago.

    The song starts at 1:48. Before that is some context.

  69. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Cancelling Season 2 (or 11) isn't enough, she must be unpersoned, erased from all memory. Not even 12 hours into her insult upon the majesty of oppressed Valerie Jarret, all episodes of Roseanne pulled from Hulu, and reruns of the old show to stop on CMT, TV Land, and Paramount Network.

    They can gloat now, and cry when we hold on to the House and Senate.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ava/status/1001523239691010049

    Replies: @Anonymous

    That is hardly adequate. Google should deindex the very term “Roseanne” and should report you to the Leeds Crown Court if you even type R-O-S-E. It is the year 2018!

  70. Are there people here who are honest to God defending Eric Greitens?

    I know most of iSteve is massively butthurt about women (or more specifically their complete lack of luck with them) but come on now.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Berty

    One commenter, The Man From K Street, brought it up. He seems to be the only one that is concerned. You may continue trolling now.

    , @The Man From K Street
    @Berty

    I'm not defending Greitens, just pointing out how his case illustrates how the current sexual hysteria can be used as a blunt instrument by prosecutors to get to other charges.

    Because he was definitely going to get away with it on the sex-related charge: the case turned on his taking a photo of the woman during their encounter, and no one can prove the photo ever existed--it is like prosecuting a drug case when there are no drugs in evidence. But the investigation did lead them to campaign finance violations, and that is why Greitens is resigning.

  71. Roseanne just twitted that she made those comments at 2/am on Ambien and wasn’t responsible.

    I still think it was cocaine and alcohol.

  72. @BB753
    Never tweet when drunk! That's my theory. Covfefe!

    Replies: @Alden

    Me too

  73. @Joe Walker
    Once again we see that the left only supports free speech when they agree with what the person is saying. If the person says something that the left disagrees with then the speaker is accused of engaging in "hate speech". For the last couple of years, the left has been engaged in an almost ceaseless attack on Donald Trump and his supporters but nothing happens because Trump and his supporters are white conservatives and you are allowed to say whatever you like about them.

    Replies: @leopard

    Altright never supported free speech.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @leopard

    Suppport of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right.

    Replies: @Jasper Been

    , @bomag
    @leopard


    Altright never supported free speech.
     
    Well, nothing is free, but I find conservative venues far less censorious than their liberal counterparts.
  74. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Lot

    Doesn't Valerie Jarrett have a striking similarity to the 2015 iSteve Man of the Year?



    https://www.unz.com/isteve/announcing-the-2015-male-of-the-year/

    Replies: @Alden

    Jarrett’s nice looking. It’s her racist communist heart and soul that’s the problem.

  75. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    thanks for the pictures

    Both have good facelifts. Kudos to Roseanne for having a neck lift too.

    I like both hairstyles.

    Roseanne made a great chick flick movie. She was a stay at home housewife 2 kids. Her husband was an accountant one of his clients was a glamorous writer of romance novels

    Husband left Roseanne for writer. Roseanne left the kids with the husband and writer, went home, burnt the house down and wreaked revenge on husband and writer.

    Great movie

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @Alden

    She-Devil. Original Brit miniseries, Life and Loves of a She-Devil, far superior.

  76. It sounds like Roseanne got Obama’s Valerie Jarrett confused with Hillary’s Huma Abedin, who is associated with Saudi Arabia although her ancestry is South Asian.

    • Replies: @jesse helms think-alike
    @Steve Sailer


    It sounds like Roseanne got Obama’s Valerie Jarrett confused with Hillary’s Huma Abedin, who is associated with Saudi Arabia although her ancestry is South Asian.

     



    Yes of course it's very likely she was thinking of Abedin's relatively well known ties to the Ikhwan.

    I'm actually surprised that Roseanne, who I have always thought of as a stupid sack of excrement, knows who Jarrett is much less that she was aware of her early background in Iran.

    The Chelsea Soros Clinton tweet was just dumb even if politically the Clintons and Soros are think-alikes. Referring to Chelsea Soros Manning would have been a cut closer to the quick.

    The more important take home message of this episode is that people on the Right or even apolitical types are still completely defenseless against the raciss charge. Since Jimmy the Greek thirty years ago any figure on the Right caught comparing AA's to apes or uttering the N word loses everything. Until this ends or until a shooting civil war breaks out the Left has this massive Trump card against anyone who doesn't toe their ideological line.
  77. @Dave Pinsen
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    Jarrett looks more like a Romulan or a Vulcan from Star Trek than anyone from Planet of the Apes.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Jarrett looks more like a Romulan or a Vulcan from Star Trek than anyone from Planet of the Apes.

    That was pretty funny… and you are right. She does.

  78. @The Man From K Street
    In other, somewhat related news, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap. Nor for allegedly photographing a woman who was shocked to find out her consenting to go to the home basement of a former Navy SEAL was interpreted as a willingness to have sex, but for campaign finance peccadilloes that came out as a result of the sex investigation.

    A couple days ago a commenter here perceptively suggested #MeToo was a covert force retirement scheme. It may be that, but it now also looks like a new prosecutorial tool: if you get a license to turn over all the rocks you want because shut up you sexist, you are bound to find other things wriggling underneath them.

    Replies: @Berty, @Corvinus, @Twinkie

    Eric Greitens is resigning, even after it looked like he would successfully beat the #MeToo rap.

    1. I am not sure about that. 2. Of all the former SEALs, it had to be a Jewish one who gets ensnared in the #MeToo thing.

  79. @eah
    @eah

    https://twitter.com/angusparvo/status/1001525158174183424

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Now this is the right move.

  80. Anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Roseanne seems to be mentally unstable. With “friends” like her, who needs enemies? She’d probably have repudiated Trump in a few months anyway.

  81. @Father O'Hara
    This story overshadows my OT comment: Dinner out Sunday night. Guess who sat not 5 feet away from me at the bar, happily watching the b-ball playoffs: Wait for it..Billy Corgan.
    When he left I said,"Hi." He said hi back.
    A guy like me is way too cool to bother a celebrity.

    And now Roseanne.
    Well VJ is not an attractive woman,is she? Isn't that one reason she had the feud with the other Chicago lite skinned black lady?

    Replies: @Mishra

    Dinner out Sunday night. Guess who sat not 5 feet away from me at the bar, happily watching the b-ball playoffs: Wait for it..Billy Corgan.
    When he left I said,”Hi.” He said hi back.
    A guy like me is way too cool to bother a celebrity.

    What is the point of this? You bothered a (minor) “celebrity” (or “has-been”) but you’re “way too cool” to bother a celebrity? Is this some kind of 4-D irony? Sorry but I’m missing the point here.

  82. I couldn’t believe it though. I thought, alright what did she post and then I saw and I thought “Jesus! This is why over 65s shouldn’t be on Twitter.”

    Doesn’t matter that President Hollowman is long gone and didn’t really do much owing to being a Hollowman, she’s still going to go there that hard. Like Trump, Barr took Obama so personally it’s fascinating really.

  83. @Berty
    Are there people here who are honest to God defending Eric Greitens?

    I know most of iSteve is massively butthurt about women (or more specifically their complete lack of luck with them) but come on now.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @The Man From K Street

    One commenter, The Man From K Street, brought it up. He seems to be the only one that is concerned. You may continue trolling now.

  84. Roseanne could have saved herself if she’d explained that she was comparing Jarrett to one of the human characters that have appeared in one or another of the Planet of the Apes movies. Linda Harrison would have been a great choice,
    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0365709/?ref_=m_tt_cl_i7
    but most anyone would do.

    The Muslim Brotherhood part would have been harder to finesse, but by itself it wouldn’t have been a career-ender.

  85. @Berty
    Are there people here who are honest to God defending Eric Greitens?

    I know most of iSteve is massively butthurt about women (or more specifically their complete lack of luck with them) but come on now.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @The Man From K Street

    I’m not defending Greitens, just pointing out how his case illustrates how the current sexual hysteria can be used as a blunt instrument by prosecutors to get to other charges.

    Because he was definitely going to get away with it on the sex-related charge: the case turned on his taking a photo of the woman during their encounter, and no one can prove the photo ever existed–it is like prosecuting a drug case when there are no drugs in evidence. But the investigation did lead them to campaign finance violations, and that is why Greitens is resigning.

  86. @27 year old
    @Hibernian

    This will be a lot less funny in 10 years when there literally is an Islamic pope.

    Hell the chump pope they got now is liable to say allahu Akbar any day now at the rate he's been going

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew, @Benjaminl

    Sigh, and we lost our best shot at getting a Jewish pope, when Jean-Marie Lustiger died.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @International Jew

    We've already had a Jewish Pope: Peter.

  87. @leopard
    @Joe Walker

    Altright never supported free speech.

    Replies: @Anon, @bomag

    Suppport of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @Anon

    "Support of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right."

    I do not think that statement is remotely true. They are in favor of free speech when it suits their needs, like in 2018. Were that group (which continues to be hard to define) to gain power at some point in the future, all bets would be off.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  88. Whenever I think about Hollywood “morals” I head over to YouTube to watch the video of Roman Polanski receiving the Oscar for Best Director for “The Pianist” back in 2003. Nothing that any conservative (or “conservative”) has been canned for recently is 1/100th as bad as what Roman Polanski did, but the whole damn audience stands up to give Polanski a standing ovation, including Jack Nicholson, in whose house Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Indeed, far more people stood to cheer Polanski than had stood for Elia Kazan, who had received a lifetime achievement award just a few years before. Harrison Ford actually later traveled to France later that year to personally give Polanski his Oscar.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Wilkey


    far more people stood to cheer Polanski than had stood for Elia Kazan
     
    As they should have.
    , @anon
    @Wilkey

    I dunno.
    Samantha Geimer said it took years for her to forgive her mother for involving the cops.
    Possibly, she was keen to go over to Roman's place for Round 2, just as soon as the tears in her rectum healed up.

  89. @Thomm
    But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn't 'Rule by Actresses'.

    It may be true that there is 'Rule by Actresses who are or at least once were pretty'.

    Replies: @bomag

    But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn’t ‘Rule by Actresses’.

    Ah, but the swiftness and severity of the consequences reveal that it was a transgression by one of the inner Party.

    Examples must be made, to encourage the others.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @bomag

    I agree, bomag, that "pour encourager les autres" played a role in the swiftness and severity of the outright cancellation. Imagine the cold fear that must be gripping any TV star with a Twitter account. "Better clean up my Twitter trail," they (or their assistants) must be thinking. "And send an anti-Roseanne/anti-Trump tweet, just to be on the safe side.

    I suspect that since the downfall of Weinstein the Hollywood exec-types have felt "vulnerable," with their authority disespected. Taking out a popular and profitable figure like Roseanne reasserts their live-or-die power over the lesser "talent."

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    , @Truth
    @bomag

    Hey; you two are buds now?!

    Way to go, old Sports!

    Replies: @bomag

  90. @Alden
    @Lot

    thanks for the pictures

    Both have good facelifts. Kudos to Roseanne for having a neck lift too.

    I like both hairstyles.

    Roseanne made a great chick flick movie. She was a stay at home housewife 2 kids. Her husband was an accountant one of his clients was a glamorous writer of romance novels

    Husband left Roseanne for writer. Roseanne left the kids with the husband and writer, went home, burnt the house down and wreaked revenge on husband and writer.

    Great movie

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    She-Devil. Original Brit miniseries, Life and Loves of a She-Devil, far superior.

  91. @International Jew
    @27 year old

    Sigh, and we lost our best shot at getting a Jewish pope, when Jean-Marie Lustiger died.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    We’ve already had a Jewish Pope: Peter.

  92. @Anon
    @Anonym


    Nature will re-assert herself and the seasons gently obliterate the vast, deserted suburb. Its history will pass from memory to legend until, centuries later, as we have supposed, the archaeologists prick their ears at the cryptic references in the texts of the twentieth century to a cult which once flourished on this forgotten strand; of the idol Oscar - sexless image of infertility - of the great Star Goddesses who were once noisily worshipped there in a Holy Wood.
     

    Replies: @bomag

    Excellent.

  93. @Anon
    @leopard

    Suppport of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right.

    Replies: @Jasper Been

    “Support of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right.”

    I do not think that statement is remotely true. They are in favor of free speech when it suits their needs, like in 2018. Were that group (which continues to be hard to define) to gain power at some point in the future, all bets would be off.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Jasper Been


    They are in favor of free speech when it suits their needs
     
    Freedom of speech is useful for undermining and destroying existing power structures. That's what the alt-right aims to do so freedom of speech is obviously attractive to them at the moment.

    Since freedom of speech is a threat to existing power structures it's obviously a very unattractive concept to those currently in power.

    When you have no power you support freedom of speech. Once you gain power, assuming you have any brains at all, you suppress freedom of speech.

    Back in the days when conservatives still had some real power they failed to suppress freedom of speech and they thus allowed their enemies to undermine and destroy them.
  94. @leopard
    @Joe Walker

    Altright never supported free speech.

    Replies: @Anon, @bomag

    Altright never supported free speech.

    Well, nothing is free, but I find conservative venues far less censorious than their liberal counterparts.

  95. Roseanne couldn’t keep her yap shut. She should have read more of her people’s Proverbs.

    I’m reminded of Jeff Goldblum, who had a rather comical reputation for being unable to keep a certain appurtenance of his trousers zipped.

  96. @bomag
    @Thomm


    But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn’t ‘Rule by Actresses’.
     
    Ah, but the swiftness and severity of the consequences reveal that it was a transgression by one of the inner Party.

    Examples must be made, to encourage the others.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Truth

    I agree, bomag, that “pour encourager les autres” played a role in the swiftness and severity of the outright cancellation. Imagine the cold fear that must be gripping any TV star with a Twitter account. “Better clean up my Twitter trail,” they (or their assistants) must be thinking. “And send an anti-Roseanne/anti-Trump tweet, just to be on the safe side.

    I suspect that since the downfall of Weinstein the Hollywood exec-types have felt “vulnerable,” with their authority disespected. Taking out a popular and profitable figure like Roseanne reasserts their live-or-die power over the lesser “talent.”

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @ChrisZ

    Why don't celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don't bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway. Easy-peasey-lemon-squeezey.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @dfordoom

  97. @bomag
    @Thomm


    But this is an example of an actress sabotaging herself. So it isn’t ‘Rule by Actresses’.
     
    Ah, but the swiftness and severity of the consequences reveal that it was a transgression by one of the inner Party.

    Examples must be made, to encourage the others.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Truth

    Hey; you two are buds now?!

    Way to go, old Sports!

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Truth

    It helps that the internet has made attention spans so short, I don't even remember who you are.

  98. Well, can we think of a performer on the LEFT who offended a large part of the fan base, and hasn’t been able to land a gig since then?

    Maybe Kaepernick or Reid?

    I personally think people care way too much about what celebs say and do. Or should I wait until Kim or Kendall tweet their thoughts on the subject so I know what I am supposed to think?

    In Paleo Liberal’s Utopia, nobody would give a rat’s behind about celebrities.

    In PL Utopia, Kaepernick and Barr would still be working, the Kardashians would be nobodies, and so would Tonya Harding.

  99. @27 year old
    @Hibernian

    This will be a lot less funny in 10 years when there literally is an Islamic pope.

    Hell the chump pope they got now is liable to say allahu Akbar any day now at the rate he's been going

    Replies: @snorlax, @International Jew, @Benjaminl

    Not if the next pope is Based Cardinal Sarah:

    “What worries you?”

    “You know, the biggest worry is that Europe doesn’t want any more, or has lost the sense of its origins. It has lost its roots. Yet, a tree without roots will die. And I’m afraid that the West will die. There are plenty of signs. No more natality. You are invaded, still, by other cultures, other peoples which will progressively dominate you by their number and completely change your culture, your convictions, your morality.”

    The guy is practically a White Supremacist…

  100. @Dr. X
    @Joe Stalin


    Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh
     
    ...and quite a bit of flesh it was.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Indeed. I wonder who the lucky fellow was that had her on his casting couch first.

  101. @Truth
    @bomag

    Hey; you two are buds now?!

    Way to go, old Sports!

    Replies: @bomag

    It helps that the internet has made attention spans so short, I don’t even remember who you are.

  102. • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @MEH 0910

    Some pathetic soy-boy made it past the screeners today on Limbaugh's show. He was crying that what Barr did was far worse than what happens to Trump. He kept whining about how we on the right should hold Trump's comments to the same standards as we do to the leftist nonsense. Rush to his credit didn't agree.

    The real problem was this soy-boy. Does he really not see the imbalance? Does he really think "racism" is the most heinous crime in the world? He considers himself in the middle.

  103. It used to be that there was a major scandal involving American Jews
    once or twice a year. E.g., Bernard Madoff or Eliot Spitzer. Now it seems
    we have one every few days. Just this week: arrest of Harvey Weinstein, firing of
    Roseanne, and resignation of Gov. Greitens of Missouri. If I were Jewish
    I’d want to run and hide my face in shame.I can’t think of another group
    that is so prone to scandalous behavior. What’s happening with the American
    Jews? I don’t remember this sort of thing happening 30-40 years ago.

    I wonder if what’s happening has anything to do with Cuddihy’s “Ordeal of
    Civility: Jewish Struggle with Modernity.”

  104. @Alden
    Here’s my opinion on why the news in inundated with the foibles of actresses.
    It’s used to hide from us proles & peons the truth

    Things like the anti trust laws haven’t been enforced for like 70 years, wages stagnate prices rise, Amazon pays no taxes, immigration causes environmental degradation and high cost of housing resulting in homeless on and on it goes.

    The so called quality media is just another version of TMZ so as to hide the truth.

    Replies: @Rosie

    This is so true. So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime …

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Rosie


    So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime …
     
    I pretty much agree with all of that. On the other hand while it is, as you say, elite-instigated I'm not sure the elites have it as much under control as they had hoped. Their problem is that their SJW foot soldiers are drawn largely from the ranks of the mentally unstable. Spandrell's idea of bio-leninism is an attempt to make sense of this.

    Replies: @Lot

  105. @anon
    @ic1000

    It's still sort of amusing, though, that if you're a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.

    https://youtu.be/ohzoKsdw7VY

    Or, if you're a different black guy, you can go on a podcast and admit to having a career as a strong-arm bank robber, and still have a career on Law & Order: SVU for almost two decades.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Rosie

    It’s still sort of amusing, though, that if you’re a black guy, you can admit to pimping out women and still be invited to perform at the Nickelodeon Kids’ Choice Awards.

    Our interests and well-being are not a priority for the Establishment Left.

  106. @Dave Pinsen
    I respond to a woman offering an explainer on why it's okay to call Trump an orangutang but Roseanne's Planet of the Apes tweet was beyond the pale.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1001618548903604224

    Replies: @Rosie

    Roseanne’s ape comment is racist because of longterm established racist tropes tying POC to apes. Also, her context.

    It’s always something, isn’t it? Your answer to her was very much on point.

  107. @Uilleam Yr Alban
    Interestingly, given that she represents the epitome of white proleness, Roseanne is VERY Jewish ancestrally.

    Also interesting that six years ago she published George Zimmerman’s parents’ address as a participant in the lynch mob. Now she’s tweeting this. How “red pilled” have Americans become in the last decade?

    Replies: @Rosie

    Also interesting that six years ago she published George Zimmerman’s parents’ address as a participant in the lynch mob. Now she’s tweeting this. How “red pilled” have Americans become in the last decade?

    I can’t help but think this sort of overreach is ultimately bad for the Left and good for the White Right. No one is safe, virtue signaling provides no immunity from the Leftist mob.

  108. I love that they’ve blackholed Roseanne, Barr-ing even her old episodes from reruns. You gotta love it. They could discover that Harrison Ford was the Zodiac Killer but they would never, never ever in a million years stop showing Star Wars or Indiana Jones reruns, but Roseanne gets sent into oblivion after one vaguely racist tweet.

  109. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @eah

    Thanks.

  110. @ChrisZ
    @bomag

    I agree, bomag, that "pour encourager les autres" played a role in the swiftness and severity of the outright cancellation. Imagine the cold fear that must be gripping any TV star with a Twitter account. "Better clean up my Twitter trail," they (or their assistants) must be thinking. "And send an anti-Roseanne/anti-Trump tweet, just to be on the safe side.

    I suspect that since the downfall of Weinstein the Hollywood exec-types have felt "vulnerable," with their authority disespected. Taking out a popular and profitable figure like Roseanne reasserts their live-or-die power over the lesser "talent."

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Why don’t celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don’t bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway. Easy-peasey-lemon-squeezey.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Rosamond Vincy

    They crave the attention. That’s why they’re willing to Weinstein themselves to become celebs.

    , @dfordoom
    @Rosamond Vincy


    Why don’t celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don’t bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway.
     
    That makes sense, except for one thing. Celebrities tend to be unintelligent narcissists so expecting them to behave sensibly is unreasonable.
  111. More than 24 hours into this latest imbroglio, I’m getting a feeling it’s going to backfire badly on Democrats and the left, more than they can imagine. It might even be to 2018 politically what “Basket of Deplorables” was to 2016: a major turning point.

    What’s making me think so is I’m seeing a certain segment of white women I know (older than 40, has kids but possibly not still with the father of their kids, white collar but probably peaked as far as earning potential goes) who in 2015 and 2016 were early Trump supporters, and whose support clued me in to the fact that he could win. Demographically, that was the death knell for Hillary: if she couldn’t win white women, those kinds of white women, she couldn’t win.

    This same segment is taking Roseanne’s side now. I think they identify with her, and with the idea that a 65 year-old comedienne who has anything but Hollywood looks and has a rocky professional and personal history could still be a big success this far along in her career and life. Seeing her absolutely defenestrated and with no chance to make amends for having committed a picoaggression against a Friend-Of-Barack is seriously rubbing them the wrong way.

  112. @Steve Sailer
    It sounds like Roseanne got Obama's Valerie Jarrett confused with Hillary's Huma Abedin, who is associated with Saudi Arabia although her ancestry is South Asian.

    Replies: @jesse helms think-alike

    It sounds like Roseanne got Obama’s Valerie Jarrett confused with Hillary’s Huma Abedin, who is associated with Saudi Arabia although her ancestry is South Asian.

    Yes of course it’s very likely she was thinking of Abedin’s relatively well known ties to the Ikhwan.

    I’m actually surprised that Roseanne, who I have always thought of as a stupid sack of excrement, knows who Jarrett is much less that she was aware of her early background in Iran.

    The Chelsea Soros Clinton tweet was just dumb even if politically the Clintons and Soros are think-alikes. Referring to Chelsea Soros Manning would have been a cut closer to the quick.

    The more important take home message of this episode is that people on the Right or even apolitical types are still completely defenseless against the raciss charge. Since Jimmy the Greek thirty years ago any figure on the Right caught comparing AA’s to apes or uttering the N word loses everything. Until this ends or until a shooting civil war breaks out the Left has this massive Trump card against anyone who doesn’t toe their ideological line.

  113. @Wilkey
    Whenever I think about Hollywood "morals" I head over to YouTube to watch the video of Roman Polanski receiving the Oscar for Best Director for "The Pianist" back in 2003. Nothing that any conservative (or "conservative") has been canned for recently is 1/100th as bad as what Roman Polanski did, but the whole damn audience stands up to give Polanski a standing ovation, including Jack Nicholson, in whose house Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Indeed, far more people stood to cheer Polanski than had stood for Elia Kazan, who had received a lifetime achievement award just a few years before. Harrison Ford actually later traveled to France later that year to personally give Polanski his Oscar.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon

    far more people stood to cheer Polanski than had stood for Elia Kazan

    As they should have.

  114. One of our retro stations, LAFF, is still showing original Roseanne reruns among the Drew Careys and That 70s Show. Will be watching to see if that changes

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @Rosamond Vincy

    No more Roseanne (the original series). Night Court is now in those slots.

  115. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1001848460881035265

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    Some pathetic soy-boy made it past the screeners today on Limbaugh’s show. He was crying that what Barr did was far worse than what happens to Trump. He kept whining about how we on the right should hold Trump’s comments to the same standards as we do to the leftist nonsense. Rush to his credit didn’t agree.

    The real problem was this soy-boy. Does he really not see the imbalance? Does he really think “racism” is the most heinous crime in the world? He considers himself in the middle.

  116. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Hibernian


    If the Pope is Islamic he’ll say “Allahu Akbar.”
     
    The Pope is an atheist.

    Replies: @Johnnydub

    The Pope is a communist.

  117. @Wilkey
    Whenever I think about Hollywood "morals" I head over to YouTube to watch the video of Roman Polanski receiving the Oscar for Best Director for "The Pianist" back in 2003. Nothing that any conservative (or "conservative") has been canned for recently is 1/100th as bad as what Roman Polanski did, but the whole damn audience stands up to give Polanski a standing ovation, including Jack Nicholson, in whose house Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Indeed, far more people stood to cheer Polanski than had stood for Elia Kazan, who had received a lifetime achievement award just a few years before. Harrison Ford actually later traveled to France later that year to personally give Polanski his Oscar.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon

    I dunno.
    Samantha Geimer said it took years for her to forgive her mother for involving the cops.
    Possibly, she was keen to go over to Roman’s place for Round 2, just as soon as the tears in her rectum healed up.

  118. @Rosamond Vincy
    @ChrisZ

    Why don't celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don't bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway. Easy-peasey-lemon-squeezey.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @dfordoom

    They crave the attention. That’s why they’re willing to Weinstein themselves to become celebs.

  119. @eah
    https://twitter.com/leandrareports/status/1000065083161174016

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  120. @Jasper Been
    @Anon

    "Support of free speech could be said to be the defining characteristic of the alt right."

    I do not think that statement is remotely true. They are in favor of free speech when it suits their needs, like in 2018. Were that group (which continues to be hard to define) to gain power at some point in the future, all bets would be off.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    They are in favor of free speech when it suits their needs

    Freedom of speech is useful for undermining and destroying existing power structures. That’s what the alt-right aims to do so freedom of speech is obviously attractive to them at the moment.

    Since freedom of speech is a threat to existing power structures it’s obviously a very unattractive concept to those currently in power.

    When you have no power you support freedom of speech. Once you gain power, assuming you have any brains at all, you suppress freedom of speech.

    Back in the days when conservatives still had some real power they failed to suppress freedom of speech and they thus allowed their enemies to undermine and destroy them.

  121. @Rosie
    @Alden

    This is so true. So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime ...

    Replies: @dfordoom

    So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime …

    I pretty much agree with all of that. On the other hand while it is, as you say, elite-instigated I’m not sure the elites have it as much under control as they had hoped. Their problem is that their SJW foot soldiers are drawn largely from the ranks of the mentally unstable. Spandrell’s idea of bio-leninism is an attempt to make sense of this.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @dfordoom

    I've been saying that for years, the leftist elites lost control of their pawns because of social media, especially twitter.

    In no real way do blacks or the left benefit from the mob-sacking of Roseanne. 80-90% of the people losing financially from killing the show are likely on the left. But the elites couldn't stop or even contain the twitter-mob.

    You saw this too with Damore. He might have just been reprimanded, or quietly told he had three months to find another job, but a bunch of mostly freakish tatted up genderqueer Google employees threatened Google if he wasn't fired and publicly denounced by management.

    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC. You can picture Bill, or Bernie, or Obama, laughing off a tasteless joke, or telling one themselves to friends. But Hillary gave off many cues of being completely up to date with every PC speech rule and of always noticing and never forgotting any violation. At the convention she choose instead of racial gaffe-prone cool uncle Joe Biden the wimpy Tim Kaine who made sure everyone knew he spoke Rising Brown America's Official Language. Then she had an angrily self righteous Muslim with a burka-wife shout racist at Trump, following up with that chubby drug cartel moll stunt at the debates to call him sexist because he had opinions about the looks of a beauty pageant contestant.

    Replies: @Thomas

  122. @Rosamond Vincy
    @ChrisZ

    Why don't celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don't bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway. Easy-peasey-lemon-squeezey.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @dfordoom

    Why don’t celebrities just not tweet? Announce your concert dates or your next movie, but don’t bother people with your opinions, in which no one takes an interest anyway.

    That makes sense, except for one thing. Celebrities tend to be unintelligent narcissists so expecting them to behave sensibly is unreasonable.

  123. @Dave Pinsen
    @anon


    Oh well her last few episodes weren’t that great anyway, cucking over muslims and illegals. Rating probably dropped like a rock.
     
    She's wasn't posting anonymously on a blog; she was starring in a hugely popular broadcast TV sitcom, so you have to bear that in mind when you toss around words like "cucking". A contractor hiring illegals to undercut Dan's drywall business was shown as the disaster it is. And the Muslim neighbors, though friendly, were on food stamps. Showing that immigration has brought Muslim immigrants to flyover country and that they're often a drain on the fisc is pretty radical for a mainstream sitcom. A lot of feathers on the left were ruffled by it.

    Replies: @Lot

    And it is a black guy in a union who Dan has to replace with an illegal to win his next contract.

    And of course the actors playing Ann-Marie and Chuck are now out of work IRL too.

  124. Lot says:
    @dfordoom
    @Rosie


    So many people seem to think Cultural Marxism is a real, grass-roots movement. It is not. It is an elite-instigated diversion from issues people really care about: race and immigration, health care, the environment, crime …
     
    I pretty much agree with all of that. On the other hand while it is, as you say, elite-instigated I'm not sure the elites have it as much under control as they had hoped. Their problem is that their SJW foot soldiers are drawn largely from the ranks of the mentally unstable. Spandrell's idea of bio-leninism is an attempt to make sense of this.

    Replies: @Lot

    I’ve been saying that for years, the leftist elites lost control of their pawns because of social media, especially twitter.

    In no real way do blacks or the left benefit from the mob-sacking of Roseanne. 80-90% of the people losing financially from killing the show are likely on the left. But the elites couldn’t stop or even contain the twitter-mob.

    You saw this too with Damore. He might have just been reprimanded, or quietly told he had three months to find another job, but a bunch of mostly freakish tatted up genderqueer Google employees threatened Google if he wasn’t fired and publicly denounced by management.

    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC. You can picture Bill, or Bernie, or Obama, laughing off a tasteless joke, or telling one themselves to friends. But Hillary gave off many cues of being completely up to date with every PC speech rule and of always noticing and never forgotting any violation. At the convention she choose instead of racial gaffe-prone cool uncle Joe Biden the wimpy Tim Kaine who made sure everyone knew he spoke Rising Brown America’s Official Language. Then she had an angrily self righteous Muslim with a burka-wife shout racist at Trump, following up with that chubby drug cartel moll stunt at the debates to call him sexist because he had opinions about the looks of a beauty pageant contestant.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Lot


    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC.
     
    One thing that really weighs down a lot of Democratic female national pols, was definitely an issue for Hillary but also seriously affects Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand, is a vocal timbre and delivery that makes them sound like a naggy schoolmarm. I'm assuming few if any of their male Democratic colleagues would have ever been so gauche as to mention this, certainly none in the era of #MeToo, and if they had, at best they'd have been dismissed as enforcing a double standard like calling a woman "bossy," but it's a subtle and subliminal thing that has to hurt them with potential voters at the margin.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  125. @Lot
    @dfordoom

    I've been saying that for years, the leftist elites lost control of their pawns because of social media, especially twitter.

    In no real way do blacks or the left benefit from the mob-sacking of Roseanne. 80-90% of the people losing financially from killing the show are likely on the left. But the elites couldn't stop or even contain the twitter-mob.

    You saw this too with Damore. He might have just been reprimanded, or quietly told he had three months to find another job, but a bunch of mostly freakish tatted up genderqueer Google employees threatened Google if he wasn't fired and publicly denounced by management.

    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC. You can picture Bill, or Bernie, or Obama, laughing off a tasteless joke, or telling one themselves to friends. But Hillary gave off many cues of being completely up to date with every PC speech rule and of always noticing and never forgotting any violation. At the convention she choose instead of racial gaffe-prone cool uncle Joe Biden the wimpy Tim Kaine who made sure everyone knew he spoke Rising Brown America's Official Language. Then she had an angrily self righteous Muslim with a burka-wife shout racist at Trump, following up with that chubby drug cartel moll stunt at the debates to call him sexist because he had opinions about the looks of a beauty pageant contestant.

    Replies: @Thomas

    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC.

    One thing that really weighs down a lot of Democratic female national pols, was definitely an issue for Hillary but also seriously affects Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand, is a vocal timbre and delivery that makes them sound like a naggy schoolmarm. I’m assuming few if any of their male Democratic colleagues would have ever been so gauche as to mention this, certainly none in the era of #MeToo, and if they had, at best they’d have been dismissed as enforcing a double standard like calling a woman “bossy,” but it’s a subtle and subliminal thing that has to hurt them with potential voters at the margin.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Thomas

    I meant my comment above to be in response to this one; sorry for misplacing it.

  126. Good point about the voice quality.

    People don’t seem to pay much attention to the sound of candidates’ voices these days, or at least not as much as may be warranted.

    I suspect Obama benefited bigly from his nice warm baritone voice. He was hailed as a great orator, but he never was; he just sounded good.

    It’s very hard for women to catch up in the voice game. There are women with very pleasant speaking voices, but when they try to sound as authoritative as men, the nag factor may quickly kick in.

    Hillary’s casual speaking voice actually isn’t especially terrible; it’s just that she flips the switch into naggy harridan as soon as she tries to produce anything more formal than an ordinary conversational tone.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Thatcher's strict headmistress style worked quite well for her. Is the vital factor the difference between British and American accents?

  127. @Thomas
    @Lot


    Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC.
     
    One thing that really weighs down a lot of Democratic female national pols, was definitely an issue for Hillary but also seriously affects Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand, is a vocal timbre and delivery that makes them sound like a naggy schoolmarm. I'm assuming few if any of their male Democratic colleagues would have ever been so gauche as to mention this, certainly none in the era of #MeToo, and if they had, at best they'd have been dismissed as enforcing a double standard like calling a woman "bossy," but it's a subtle and subliminal thing that has to hurt them with potential voters at the margin.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    I meant my comment above to be in response to this one; sorry for misplacing it.

  128. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Good point about the voice quality.

    People don't seem to pay much attention to the sound of candidates' voices these days, or at least not as much as may be warranted.

    I suspect Obama benefited bigly from his nice warm baritone voice. He was hailed as a great orator, but he never was; he just sounded good.

    It's very hard for women to catch up in the voice game. There are women with very pleasant speaking voices, but when they try to sound as authoritative as men, the nag factor may quickly kick in.

    Hillary's casual speaking voice actually isn't especially terrible; it's just that she flips the switch into naggy harridan as soon as she tries to produce anything more formal than an ordinary conversational tone.

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    Thatcher’s strict headmistress style worked quite well for her. Is the vital factor the difference between British and American accents?

  129. EH says:

    The most prominent actress regnant was the Empress Theodora (c.500-548),

    Procopius (in his Secret History) relates that Theodora from an early age followed her sister Komito’s example and worked in a Constantinople brothel serving low-status customers; later she performed on stage.[10] [….] Employment as an actress at the time would include both “indecent exhibitions on stage” and providing sexual services off stage. In what Garland calls the “sleazy entertainment business in the capital”, Theodora earned her living by a combination of her theatrical and sexual skills.[4] […. She sleazed around North Africa for a while before returning to the capitol.]

    When Justinian sought to marry Theodora, he could not: He was heir of the throne of his uncle, Emperor Justin I, and a Roman law from Constantine’s time prevented anyone of senatorial rank from marrying actresses. In 525, Justin repealed the law, and Justinian married Theodora.[12] By this point, she already had a daughter (whose name has been lost). Justinian apparently treated the daughter and the daughter’s son Athanasius as fully legitimate,[13] although sources disagree whether Justinian was the girl’s father.

    She convinced Justinian not to flee the Nika riots (set off by the imprisonment for murder of earlier sports rioters): “In my opinion, flight is not the right course, even if it should bring us to safety. It is impossible for a person, having been born into this world, not to die; but for one who has reigned it is intolerable to be a fugitive. May I never be deprived of this purple robe, and may I never see the day when those who meet me do not call me empress. ” So Justinian had the 30,000 united Blue and Green sports fans trapped in the stadium and slaughtered.

    Theodora and Justinian were both made saints.

  130. @Lot
    Jarret has that one magic drop of blood that makes a joke about her unforgivable.

    https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/valerie-jarrett-speaks-out-about-e28098roseannee28099-cancellation.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR, @JimB, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Lagertha, @Alden, @EH

    Is the magic drop the 1/8th Jewish or the 1/8th Black?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @EH

    Is Jarrett 1/8 Jewish?

  131. There has always been indirect rule through royal mistresses. Mad King Ludwig had (in every sense iof the word) dancer Lola Montez; Charles II, actresses Moll Davis and Nell Gwyn; George IV, actress and author Mary “Perdita” Robinson.

    The real issue with mistresses wasn’t whether they were perforners–most of Louis XIV’s were court ladies–but whether they had any influence on policy. Many thought the mistresses had no business interfering in politics, but even they kissed up to the current mistress as a means of gaining access to the King.

  132. @Rosamond Vincy
    One of our retro stations, LAFF, is still showing original Roseanne reruns among the Drew Careys and That 70s Show. Will be watching to see if that changes

    Replies: @Rosamond Vincy

    No more Roseanne (the original series). Night Court is now in those slots.

  133. @EH
    @Lot

    Is the magic drop the 1/8th Jewish or the 1/8th Black?

    Replies: @Anon

    Is Jarrett 1/8 Jewish?

  134. @Joe Stalin
    Roseanne is the only actress I have seen in the flesh: she was at Krochs & Brentanos bookstore on Wabash downtown Chicago in the basement pushing some book decades ago.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @MBlanc46

    The late, lamented Kroch’s. I spent many hours, and dollars, in that store.

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