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Why Roma migrants from Europe are taking rafts from Mexico to enter the U.S.
Wed, May 26, 2021, 3:08 AM·3 min read
By Adrees Latif and Radu-Sorin MarinasROMA, Texas (Reuters) – Among the hundreds of Central American migrants crossing the Rio Grande river daily on rafts from Mexico to Texas, dozens stood out on a recent day. They were generally taller and some wore skirts, stylish shoes and tracksuits, while many of the other migrants wore T-shirts, pants and jeans.
U.S. border patrol officers who apprehended them near the river tried to speak to them in Spanish. There was a pause as some of the border crossers explained in broken English that they were Romanians, a Reuters photographer said.
Scores of Romanians who are part of the Roma ethnic minority have crossed the U.S.-Mexico border in south Texas in recent weeks to seek asylum, highlighting the far-flung origins of some of the migrants who have contributed to border arrests in recent months reaching a 20-year high.
Reuters witnessed large groups of these migrants crossing the Rio Grande on rafts on multiple occasions in May. The migrants Reuters spoke to said they were fleeing racism in Romania and wanted to seek asylum in the United States.
The Roma are Europe’s largest ethnic minority and have a long history of social exclusion and discrimination.
Over three weeks, a Reuters photographer saw nearly 200 Romanians crossing at different points along the Texas border, many extended family groups of 10-15 people.
Border patrol agents have apprehended 2,217 Romanians so far in fiscal year 2021, more than the 266 caught in fiscal 2020 and the 289 in fiscal 2019, according to data provided by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency. …
Margareta Matache, director of the Roma Program at the FXB Center for Health and Human Rights at Harvard University, said many Roma fled Romania to escape persecution and dire economic circumstances, partly fueled by the COVID-19 pandemic.
“Currently, U.S. policies and policy proposals offer hope for more humane and just policies, including for immigrants,” Matache said. “They (Roma) are looking for a better life in a place where they are not exposed to violence, discrimination, and disrespect.” …
And climate change. Also, FDR’s redlining.
According to Romanian media reports, many Romanian migrants fly from Paris to Mexico City as tourists as they do not need visas to enter Mexico. Then smugglers take them by bus to the U.S. border where they cross the Rio Grande by boat or raft.
Real life Roma tend to be less awesome than in Bizet’s <em>Carmen</em>:
English
Arabic
Chinese (Simplified)
Dutch
French
German
Hebrew
Hindi
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Persian
Polish
Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Swedish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Oh, they’re gonna love it here!
They can’t compare with African American nor Latinos .Replies: @Svevlad, @Peter Akuleyev
Ask any Romanian and he/she will tell you in no uncertain terms that “Roma” are absolutely not Romanians.
Who are “Adrees Latif and Radu-Sorin Marinas” and why do they write such things?
This story will be told when humanity reaches the Magellanic Cloud:
Radu-Sorin Marinas = Mandarin sours air. Ram a rod in anus, sir.
This place is very well known in Europe to be the ugliest place ever. It’s a city where rich gypsies live and they have plenty of money to let their peculiar taste show off.
It’s was a joke in Paris to show that kind of videos 10 years ago
Lunik 9 is an old communist era housing estate built on the outskirts of Kosice in Slovakia
It’s was a joke in Paris to show that kind of videos 10 years agoReplies: @Bruno
And they live in 2% of the house (2 rooms) and the rest is empty and not furnished. They use it to do a party every two or three years. It speaks about gypsy mind …
The peculiarity of Roma is that they never tried to integrate. They only go for a low level parasitic life. They are very similar to another group but just the other way around.
They can’t compare with African American nor Latinos .
It really works just like in India. There's a high class, a middle class, and a huge low class. The upper and middles integrate, the lower ones don't
Gypsies were also slaves for over four centuries. Romanian boyars would buy and sell them like cattle. They were probably treated in many ways worse than African slaves in the United States. They were emancipated only in the 1840s and then often fell back to a nomadic life style of thieving and parasitism. Slavery does not seem to have a eugenic effect on populations, to put it mildly.Replies: @Alden
Gee, I wonder why?
If the Roma’s are wearing skirts and stylish shoes I say let them in. Too many American women wear frumpy clothes these days. Skirts look better and are more feminine.
Gypsy women look like frumpy babushkas. The voluminous skirts Roma women wear are better for shoplifting, as you can hide more things. Electronics shops found this out the hard way in the 1990's, when groups of gypsies would come in and clean out their shelves.
The Roma also have the worst PR imaginable. They have few normal upper middle class representatives and so it is more or less acceptable to talk about how terrible they are since their existence is just pure parasitism and aggression to outgroups and there is never any organised consequence to pointing this out.
France has famously deported masses of them despite that seemingly being impossible due to their status in almost all cases as EU citizens. (The expansion of the EU eastward at US prompting is the gift that just keeps giving and whatever else anyone claims was a necessary part of Brexit happening)
https://www.dw.com/en/france-deports-more-roma-in-defiance-of-international-criticism/a-5947977
And famously in Britain, a large encampment of them has gotten into a serious conflict with Pakistanis whose own criticism of them is exactly the same as what the native population might have said about them.
So why does the British media cover it? Partly because the ones complaining are Pakistani, partly because the Roma have no good PR. They are the last acceptable group to hate.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/03/roma-tire-shouldering-blame-boiling-pot-communities
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2504472/Fears-civil-unrest-Sheffield-locals-action-Roma-migrants.html
Lots of talk about funds for integration etc. But if even authoritarian communist regimes couldn’t make the Roma ‘a people like everyone else’ why should indifferent neoliberal ‘funds’. As always ‘integration’ has no failure state. You can never say ‘Okay, I see this won’t be working out, bye!’.
In France there have been many attacks against Roma people recorded in France primarily in North African immigrant cities and towns around Paris, including Bobigny, Clichy-sous-Bois, Montreuil, Bondy, Colombes, Montfermeil, Saint-Ouen, Champs-sur-Marne, Aulnay and Sevran. According to initial reports, the attacks appear to have been organised and orchestrated by locals, from poor and immigrant (North African + Sub-saharan African) backgrounds, in areas in which Roma people also live. 5 years back some Chinese shop-owners in France beat up Gypsy thieves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5PR-9Pn0Mo
Roma women accused of theft beaten in French street by Chinese shop owners
The Chinese shopkeepers in France had been complaining about the French police being ineffective against crimes committed by darkies, of several attacks as well as break ins in their stores for some time. So since the law enforcement was inadequate, as it happens they took matters in their own hands.I guess, mass immigration of non European foreigners to European countries has been bad for the gypsies.
The attempt at anti-anti-gypsiism in The Castafiore Emerald was well-meant but a bit on the nose.
Still Hergé's best piece.This turns out to go surprisingly well.
Meanwhile: Reparations!
Berlin pledges reparations after recognizing Namibia ‘genocide’ carried out by German colonial troopsReminder that this happened during Wilhelm's Germany, which is two empires removed from Heiko Maas' current self-abolishing diversity phenomenon.
Will Evil Sweden ever pay reparations for what they did to Central Europe during the 30 Years War?This fits right in with standard African history, which is a continual history of wipeouts, not many of them done by whites.Could they have adapted to Beersteins, Meerschaumpfeifen and Protestanism instead of revolting? We will never know!Replies: @Rob McX
They (Roma) are looking for a better life in a place where they are not exposed to violence, discrimination, and disrespect.”
Ofc Roma themselves would never practice those things to the host.
Mexico is currently allowing unrestricted tourists to fly in? Isn’t there a Covid risk there? That alone is a reason to block the southern border.
Gypsies are a pest. Their behavior is the same, from Spain to Russia.
True, some of them succeed to break away from that parasitic culture & become normal, functioning persons (I know about one Roma physician, internist- a decent & smart guy).
But most of them are thieves, burglars or beggars. And they are mentally-emotionally immature. An acquaintance of mine witnessed an exchange between two of them. It seemed it would end up in fight. Yet, nothing. It was:
A: You are talking to me?
B: Yes, but you-to me?
A: I am talking to you!
B: And…?
A: Yes, I am talking to you, but are you talking to me?
B: Me?
A: Yes, you. And I am talking to you, now!
B: But I was talking to you!
A: You were talking? To me?
B: Yes, I was.
A: But I was talking to you, too.
………………………..
It lasted ca. 10 minutes & they went away. No info more, just:talking, me, you..
Retarded is a too generous word.
Among other things, I blame European idiots of high caliber (Victor Hugo, Pushkin, Liszt, Georges Bizet, Prosper Merimee, Garcia Lorca, Garcia Marquez, —) who romanticized this trash.
They always live & move in groups- I’ve never seen a single Gypsy walking; they are thieves, and due to liberal legal policy, only a part of them ends up in jail (they mostly steal refuse and other things from factories); a female Czech writer had adopted two Roma boys (she was temporarily infertile, but later gave birth to a son). She wrote a memoir of desperation because those Roma kids- she treated them even better than her own son- turned to stealing, lying, alcohol & violence, while her son became a normal boy.
Now, these adoptees are both in jail.
So much about nature/nurture debate. The Call of the Wild.
Gypsies are a criminal culture. The blacks who composed the majority of the welfare population were just as unlawful in their tendencies and hopes, but not nearly as clever.
We could end the border crisis tomorrow, if we really wanted to. All it would take is crucifying a dozen or so asylum seekers. How can we extend the Overton Window that direction?
There was this guy back in 2016...maybe you heard of him?
They can’t compare with African American nor Latinos .Replies: @Svevlad, @Peter Akuleyev
Actually, a lot did.
It really works just like in India. There’s a high class, a middle class, and a huge low class. The upper and middles integrate, the lower ones don’t
The reason why their PR is so atrocious is because the class that is capable of doing it, hates them too.
In the words of some gypsy I overheard: “you might be a gypsy, but at least you have money.”
You get people who are blatantly Roma, look Indian as fuck, but don’t want anything to do with their own kind. The amount of them who are willing to identify as Roma is abysmal.
Again … Sink the damned boats!
And now, for something completely different…
The thing to love about gypsies is they are too busy stealing and whatnot to complain about discrimination. This is the one and only thing to love about gypsies. OK there's two. Gypsy is a word you can use to freak out SJW's without worrying about getting fired so far. There aren't that many of those and it's a moving target so you might want to use this weapon carefully.
Don’t worry. If anybody is known for being easily assimilated into a healthy broader culture, it’s the Roma.
“According to Steliana, another wealthy Roma, most of these Roma live in one room of their mansions because they cannot afford to heat the whole place. “We have to show that we have money, that’s it,” Steliana told Al Jazeera. ”
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2014/3/20/in-pictures-romanias-rich-roma/
Leftists were anxious to block the XL oil pipeline as a measure to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels.
They should help block these migrant pipelines that, arguably, cause more fossil fuels to be consumed.
I look forward to Fraudsident biden’s execution. It will be too late by then but worth it all the same.
Romanian Gypsies
You guys have a treat in store.
Tell me, do you by any chance have a shortage of Albanians? They’re lovely people too.
(Not for Americans of course.)
Especially the topless news presenters.
https://www.thesun.ie/archives/irish-news/150523/albanian-newsreaders-strip-down-to-boost-audience/
Nothing that drastic would be necessary. Just ensure that half of all those trying to enter the country illegally are caught, imprisoned, and then deported after serving their sentence.
Oh and the prisoners will be made to work, e.g. sewing T-shirts at Third World pay rates. No work, no food.
Once their three years are up, they will need to fend for themselves.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
You’ve been able to go there to party for months now as a tourist from anywhere – only pretend restrictions on occupancy rates in bars. Land of the free and home of the brave.
Call yourself Israelis?
Among the very very few questionable ‘benefits’ the UK accrued from its 46 year long sojourn in the EU is the ‘blessing’ of at least a dozen Romanian gypsy beggars working individual pitches, in every UK shopping street of note.
Growing up in the UK of the 1970s – which the ignorant and professional liars try to claim was ‘poor’ – I never but never encountered a professional beggar on the street.
These days, you are accosted by at least a dozen, wherever in London you choose to wander.
Damned good caravans these people have.
The government loves immigrants. They’re unlikely to complain about the declining conditions in America. They have no memory of when America was a functioning society.
This is true on the state level as well. California declining into a hell hole? It’s still better than India or China.
Bullshit. They have a long history of pickpocketing, begging and stealing — and they have resisted every effort to integrate them. They will work their way into the United States the same way they have gradually insinuated themselves into Europe over centuries: the way cockroaches and ants work their way into your house.
BTW, they are Gypsies, not “Roma,” and they are not Romanian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4aYsvgchAReplies: @Anonymous
Notice how they are phenotypically indistinguishable from the north Indians from which they originated some 800 or so years ago.
Back in the days, Europeans were appaled at how people in the Balkans treated the Roma. Then, Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU, and we had the pleasure of meeting the Roma ourselves in our own streets. America has seen a lot, but still, you guys are in for a treat!
The Met will stream a 2019 production of Carmen this Wednesday from 7:30pm to Thursday 6:30pm.
https://www.metopera.org/season/on-demand/opera/?upc=810004201026
The US foreign policy fuckwittery in Libya and the Middle East have granted a boon of North Africans and Arabs to Europe, so its only fair that the US gets its fair share of European diversity.
You’re going to loooove this lot. Trust me.
They’ll steal anything, won’t they?
The great thing is the Roma are definitely not the type of people who would come here seeking asylum and then cynically use our court system to shake down state and local government, NGOs, and businesses for compensation for alleged anti-Roma discrimination.
They should help block these migrant pipelines that, arguably, cause more fossil fuels to be consumed.Replies: @Bugg
Completely losgt on The Woke the more people in youe country means the more things they consume-fuel, housing, land, food. Always found the GOPe idea that we need more people to increase GDP to be insane. Perhaps you are producing more goods, but that doens’t necessarily correlate with a better quality of life. And in fact as the costs are socialized and demand for everything goes up, quality of life almost certainly goes down. Japan has zero immigration, but appears it’s a well-regulated pleasant place to live. Not where I would choose to live, but GDP growth by itself isn’t everything.
Saw an interview with Bush Junior explaining he believed it was “Christian” to underpay illegal immigrants to tend to his estate rather than pay actual Americans a decent wage to do the work. Jesus of course would approve of depopulating central America so our betters can keep their golf greens verdant cheaply and not pay college kids and working poor Americans a few bucks more to do it. Wanted to reach through the TV screen and pummel his sorry war-mongering ass.
Canada went through its own Roma migrant crisis. From 1997:
“the flow of Roma refugee claimants was a mere trickle, beginning in April, 1996, when Canada lifted visa requirements for Czech citizens. Then…
last August(1996), a TV program aired in the Czech Republic portraying Canada as an ideal destination for refugees, with streamlined immigration procedures and easy access to social assistance. The number of Czech (Roma) nationals claiming refugee status quickly jumped—an estimated 1,000 people between late August and early October….
Canada was considered an easy mark. Fly in, claim refugee status, and then reap the benefits while appealing the denial of asylum and deportation. Refugees could avail themselves of health and dental care, welfare, and housing. They could accumulate money by begging and shoplifting. Some would do more serious crimes. At the end of it all, the worst they faced was a free trip back to Europe.
True, some of them succeed to break away from that parasitic culture & become normal, functioning persons (I know about one Roma physician, internist- a decent & smart guy).
But most of them are thieves, burglars or beggars. And they are mentally-emotionally immature. An acquaintance of mine witnessed an exchange between two of them. It seemed it would end up in fight. Yet, nothing. It was:
A: You are talking to me?
B: Yes, but you-to me?
A: I am talking to you!
B: And...?
A: Yes, I am talking to you, but are you talking to me?
B: Me?
A: Yes, you. And I am talking to you, now!
B: But I was talking to you!
A: You were talking? To me?
B: Yes, I was.
A: But I was talking to you, too.
.............................
It lasted ca. 10 minutes & they went away. No info more, just:talking, me, you..
Retarded is a too generous word.
Among other things, I blame European idiots of high caliber (Victor Hugo, Pushkin, Liszt, Georges Bizet, Prosper Merimee, Garcia Lorca, Garcia Marquez, ---) who romanticized this trash.
They always live & move in groups- I've never seen a single Gypsy walking; they are thieves, and due to liberal legal policy, only a part of them ends up in jail (they mostly steal refuse and other things from factories); a female Czech writer had adopted two Roma boys (she was temporarily infertile, but later gave birth to a son). She wrote a memoir of desperation because those Roma kids- she treated them even better than her own son- turned to stealing, lying, alcohol & violence, while her son became a normal boy.
Now, these adoptees are both in jail.
So much about nature/nurture debate. The Call of the Wild.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Patrick Boyle
Damn gypsies, buncha Travis Bickle wannabees.
SAID IN SPANISH: “Aye, ¡Caramba! I know I had my steeenking fake ID when I cross the reever, Senor.”
“If the Roma’s are wearing skirts and stylish shoes I say let them in. Too many American women wear frumpy clothes these days. Skirts look better and are more feminine.”
Gypsy women look like frumpy babushkas. The voluminous skirts Roma women wear are better for shoplifting, as you can hide more things. Electronics shops found this out the hard way in the 1990’s, when groups of gypsies would come in and clean out their shelves.
At least with Mexicans you can get a few good restaurants. Has there ever been a Gypsy restaurant? What would they serve?. Roasted hedgehogs?
Hmm well I still like the idea of a wall and a catapult. The idea…and the optics.
Pontius Pilate, call your office.
Sounds like gypsies are essentially like low-class Jews.
Gipsies are not Romanian.
That would be as considering a Latino with American citizenship a WASP.
WONDERFULLL WELCOME to some civilized people for a change SEND MORE,the jew pigs are scared to death of gypsies!!!!
Doesn’t it bother Americans that Mexico just waves through anyone, or anything, that wants to cross the border? Fentanyl, Africans, Gypsies, all seem to make it across with no interference at all from Mexico.
I say, well found!
The attempt at anti-anti-gypsiism in The Castafiore Emerald was well-meant but a bit on the nose.
Still Hergé’s best piece.
This turns out to go surprisingly well.
Meanwhile: Reparations!
Berlin pledges reparations after recognizing Namibia ‘genocide’ carried out by German colonial troops
Reminder that this happened during Wilhelm’s Germany, which is two empires removed from Heiko Maas’ current self-abolishing diversity phenomenon.
Will Evil Sweden ever pay reparations for what they did to Central Europe during the 30 Years War?
This fits right in with standard African history, which is a continual history of wipeouts, not many of them done by whites.
Could they have adapted to Beersteins, Meerschaumpfeifen and Protestanism instead of revolting? We will never know!
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2014/3/20/in-pictures-romanias-rich-roma/Replies: @El Dato
Not a survival trait for the super-optimized WEF “own nothing” soy-eating knowledge society where you have to write code for your feudal lord who graciously offers you a telephone-booth sized condo.
Romania is part of the EU, and until very recently all its gypsies had the perfect right to locate to Britain and anywhere else in Europe.
This may actually have been a contributing fear factor to the Brexit vote.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/truth-about-romania-s-gypsies-not-coming-over-here-not-stealing-our-jobs-8489097.html
However, at the time this article was written in 2014 there were estimated to be about 90,000 Romanians living in the UK, with the number of Roma gypsies in that number unknown, but dwarfed by the 1,000,000 Roma gypsies living in France and Germany.
Anyway, bottom line is that citizens of the EU including can fly to Mexico without tourist visas.
Meanwhile, let some gypsies provide the entertainment:
Romania is not yet part of the Schengen area, but hopes to be admitted in 2021, according to this article.
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/romania-schengen
This is significant because the Biden administration has said it plans to relax travel restrictions from the Schengen area once the vaccinations numbers reach a certain point in the US. So by the end of 2021 it is possible that Romanian citizens may be able to enter the US without visas as qualified EU tourists.
If you are bored while flying, you may often glance through airline magazines and see double or triple page spreads advertising seminars on negotiating for executives of Fortune 500 companies. The ads say that anything can be achieved if you know how to negotiate.
Less that a score of years ago, we the people elected a supreme negotiator, the author of the bestselling Art of the Deal, and tasked him with building a wall as long as Mexico is wide and (here is the trick) having the Mexicans pay for it, which he confidently asserted was an assignment easily accomplished with his skill set.
We are still waiting, but surely negotiating with Mexico regarding that country admitting “tourists” who turned out to be prospective US asylum claimants and undocumented immigrants was something that was well within the skill set of Donnie & Pompeo’s Flying Circus.
Anyway, with Romanian gypsies now reportedly pouring into the US over and around that unbuilt line of fortification, isn’t it time for our elected representatives and senators to start asking questions? Isn’t that what they are supposed to be doing in Washington?
Here are some Roma raising hell in northern California. (It was posted here in a comment a week or two back but we only briefly took up the Roma angle.)
Note though the action takes place in a liquor store, no one is robbing the store.
The border agents might want to keep their wallets in a money belt during these encounters.
Can’t wait til they get here-I need my driveway sealed!
Be sure to ask about the warranty!Replies: @Tony massey
And now, for something completely different...
https://youtu.be/FsFaVxcUMhQReplies: @Morton's toes, @3g4me
This is second only to Half Breed. And nobody at the time knew what a milestone artist Cher was. She was doing this purely for $.
The thing to love about gypsies is they are too busy stealing and whatnot to complain about discrimination. This is the one and only thing to love about gypsies. OK there’s two. Gypsy is a word you can use to freak out SJW’s without worrying about getting fired so far. There aren’t that many of those and it’s a moving target so you might want to use this weapon carefully.
They are Indians after a few hundred-years unsuccessful Balkan sojourn. A precursor of what will happen with the millions of Third Worlders who have migrated to Western Europe in the last few decades. (Roma is a recently invented moniker.)
Just so you know: they don’t cut grass, code, or do much work of any kind. They mate at 15 and have what one could call a communist spirit – what is yours is mine and a society needs to provide. They also don’t shower. Good luck.
Some years ago, National Geographic had a Paul Theroux-style article, where the assignment was to travel to Eastern Europe, find some Roma, and tastefully document their picturesquely unique culture, while reminding readers that differences are only skin deep. We are all joyous celebrants in a single family, the Family of Man!
The hapless journalist recounts how he was invited to visit a
Gypsy slumRoma settlement, only to be welcomed by the quaint local custom of being punched, kicked, and having his fancy camera stolen. “It’s all good!,” the scuffed-up reporter lisped to his readers through swollen lips.The Not Getting Your Own Joke aspect made this account an extremely funny read. I couldn’t find a link, perhaps woke Nat Geo has wised up and purged it from their site.
A rare instance of dateline humor:
>ROMA, Texas (Reuters)
They must be really terrible if Pakistani immigrants also look down on them.
We could end the border crisis tomorrow, if we really wanted to
There was this guy back in 2016…maybe you heard of him?
Before the current onslaught of massive East European ‘roma’ immigration into the UK, it was a rather trendy thing to do, for certain Englishmen, to feign having ‘Gypsy blood’.
Back in the day, England was rather ethnically homogenous, and by claiming Gypsy blood, one could make a connection to the dark, mysterious, magical, elemental type man of DH Lawrence and Heathcliffe.
Pop singer, David Essex, for example, forged an image on this.
Now that the reality of Roma looks, behaviour, character etc are glaring apparent to all Britons, thanks Blair, thanks Economist, expect this little conceit to die a death.
Well, this should about wrap things up as far as the United States of America goes.
Most of the women look like Indian peasants. The men conform to globoscumbag standard dress – sports wear, trainers, gold chains.
Better idea: Pay a landlocked African country, e.g. Mali or Burkina Faso (former Upper Volta) $1,500 a head to hold one of these rocket scientists in a camp for, say, 3 years. He or she will be safe and healthy, but there will be absolutely no phone service, no Internet, no music.
Oh and the prisoners will be made to work, e.g. sewing T-shirts at Third World pay rates. No work, no food.
Once their three years are up, they will need to fend for themselves.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SFSZCef9UV4/Si7xz5xoy3I/AAAAAAAAACc/FiwwMk38ieM/s320/timbuktu3_300.gif
Yesterday, I was walking out of the grocery store and saw some beggars.
There were three of them. A husband, wife, and a small baby. They had a sign set up, saying they were out of work and needed money.
The husband had earrings and was playing the guitar. All three were wearing rags.
Judging by their look, they seemed like recent migrants from afar.
Their skin was quite swarthy and their features were foreign. At first glance, I thought they were Subcons. When I looked again, I realized that they sort of looked Subcon, but something was “off.”
When I was driving home, I thought it was unusual to see Subcon beggars in my area, given that 90-95% of them here are affluent H-1bs. Then I realized…
Those likely weren’t Subcons.
In all probability, they were Gypsies.
And now, for something completely different...
https://youtu.be/FsFaVxcUMhQReplies: @Morton's toes, @3g4me
@17 The Alarmist: When I was a very young teen I liked that song. Now, I realize it was Cher’s utterly un-selfaware way of admitting that Armenians aren’t White. And her resemblance to the Kardashians is quite striking, in retrospect.
Well, maybe true, but when I was there, everywhere I went I was treated with courtesy, friendliness, and respect. Also, chess is a mandatory subject in elementary school. In an age when U.S. kids are taught hatred and such, Armenians are exposing kids to the attention span, restraint, and logic of chess. I am not Armenian, but I found them to be really decent, whatever their genetics.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
@22 Buzz Mohawk: They are subcons. And like all other subcons, their genetic culture persists despite centuries among Europeans. Race>culture. Always and everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3O9hQudrM
No. One's religion trumps his/her skin suit.
They’re coming here because it’s legal to sell your children in Arizona.
On the plus side, it will be easier to have your fortune told here.
There are already gypsies in the US.
Twice I ran into them doing business.
The first was in liquidating some unsalable valves and fittings. They didn’t have the proper stamped industry markings to use in the current US oil field market. But this gypsy guy who my client had dealt with before came and bought up a large load of this for cash. Folding cash.
We don’t know why but the client suspected they were sending these to Africa or someplace like that.
Another time a client had to interrupt our initial meeting to talk to a gypsy about a used car the client had fixed. After about 20 minutes my client (who said he was an Israeli immigrant) came back somewhat exasperated. He said, “you can’t believe how hard it is to bargain with gypsies!” High praise, I guess. He said they pay in cash but are “impossible” to deal with.
They can’t compare with African American nor Latinos .Replies: @Svevlad, @Peter Akuleyev
They can’t compare with African American nor Latinos .
Gypsies were also slaves for over four centuries. Romanian boyars would buy and sell them like cattle. They were probably treated in many ways worse than African slaves in the United States. They were emancipated only in the 1840s and then often fell back to a nomadic life style of thieving and parasitism. Slavery does not seem to have a eugenic effect on populations, to put it mildly.
Learn from the Democrats and just do it.
Jews at their worst value and encourage intellect, instituted what are probably the oldest hygienic practices in their hemisphere, worry over what they look like to others (hence their hostility to freedom of speech), and manage to be sometimes useful. At their best they are some of the best members of society. None of that can be applied to any Roma.
Many years ago my dad ran off a group of Irish travelers who tried to scam him into seal coating his driveway. A nasty tribe of reprobates out of the Carolinas if I remember correctly.
https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/An-Irish-Travelers-Life-After-Sentencing-495081051.html
In Ceausescu’s pacifist ramblings, we used to be told that Romanian peasants, factory workers and intellectuals work together for the prosperity of our Socialist country. “We all collaborate and work in peace, Romanians, Hungarians, Germans.” He never added Gypsies to the list. One wonders why.
@Jonathan Mason, an eventual accession of Romania to the Schengen has no bearing on US entry policies. Polish citizens entered the US Visa Waiver program in 2019, although Poland joined the Schengen customs union in 2007. America, like Britain of the noughties, is doing its best to attract the worse kind of Romanians – those who ignore the rules.
I am happy to see the Indians reunite in America and Western Europe, places of neverending tolerance, as exemplified by S. Baron-Cohen. I don’t know where Peter Akuleyev lives, but if he imagines Gypsies were worse treated than other servi (“Şerbi”), or that Medieval Gypsies were limited to future Romanian lands, I hope his country gets blessed with thousands of Gypsy doctors and rocket scientists.
Where did I imply any of that, oláh? Thanks to your Wallachian and Moldovan ancestors, we now have Gypsies all over the place. But when Erdély is returned to its rightful owners maybe we can fix that.Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
My husband and I have encountered many Roma, especially in Hungary. There, they seem to be somewhat better off than other places we have been. In Paris ten years ago, we were obviously tourists and we were being followed by two Roma women. As we were on foot and crossing a bridge, one of the women bumped me and I guess that she was trying to distract me so that she could grab my purse. I turned to her and yelled at her in French that I was going to call the gendarmes. My husband is 6’4″ so that helped. They took off.
My sister was on a tour in Paris 5 years ago and said that the area around the Sorbonne was swarming with Romas.
We don’t need any Roma here, thank you.
You guys have a treat in store.
Tell me, do you by any chance have a shortage of Albanians? They're lovely people too.Replies: @JMcG, @Bill B., @Harry Baldwin
They’re already well-entrenched here. They are actually driving the Italians and Lebanese out of the Italian restaurant and pizza business.
I don’t think we trouble ourselves too much with people leaving the country unless they are carrying large amounts of cash.
Who are "Adrees Latif and Radu-Sorin Marinas" and why do they write such things?This story will be told when humanity reaches the Magellanic Cloud:Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Reg Cæsar
No self-respecting Romanian would ever consider any Roma Gypsy as Romanian.
That’s just great. Now we’re rolling out the welcome mat for perhaps humanity’s greatest parasites.
Many towns in the Czech Republic took up donations giving their local Gypsies the money they would need for their airfare to get to Canada. They were only too glad to be rid of their Gypsy populations.
“Cher’s utterly un-selfaware way of admitting that Armenians aren’t White.”
Well, maybe true, but when I was there, everywhere I went I was treated with courtesy, friendliness, and respect. Also, chess is a mandatory subject in elementary school. In an age when U.S. kids are taught hatred and such, Armenians are exposing kids to the attention span, restraint, and logic of chess. I am not Armenian, but I found them to be really decent, whatever their genetics.
Enjoy the diversity! As an added feature, some Romanian Gypsies are Muslim.
You guys have a treat in store.
Tell me, do you by any chance have a shortage of Albanians? They're lovely people too.Replies: @JMcG, @Bill B., @Harry Baldwin
Biden is taking gypsies? Spread the word! Print posters! They will love America! It is win-win!
(Not for Americans of course.)
Doesn’t it bother Americans that Mexico just waves through anyone, or anything, that wants to cross the border?
Well, there was this guy, y’see, who negotiated a deal with AMLO…Mexico stopped waving people through and made them wait in border cities while they applied for US asylum. Mexico even tightened up its border with Guatamala. What was that guy’s name? Can’t remember who that guy was, strange, seems like a long time ago. But was just a couple of years ago. Oh, well, who can remember as far back as 2020, let alone 2019!?
Now Mexico has colombian gangs specializing in burglary and break ins, haitians starting their own slums, various africans requesting charity and muslim groups in Chiapas offering a yearly free trip to Mecca to locals who convert. Funny, this immigration thing. It just happens all over, like anarchism just happened in Europe in the 19th century.
I need my driveway sealed!
Be sure to ask about the warranty!
I read where they had a reunion of sorts somewhere in west Virginia years ago.
Supposedly, they were pretty notorious.
I forever heard about the driveway scam as a kid and i remember clearly it was melungeons behind it.
Maybe somebody here knows about them.
Been years since I've heard anything.
I was just thinking this. All these Roma will be released on parole, they will find each other and group together, they will trek off – en masse – to some simple, modest suburban neighborhood outside of a prosperous city that the good white SJWs (Lutheran, Catholic, Jewish no-gooder, social service agencies) have selected as needing a little ‘flava, a little vibrancy, they will be put in housing there – all of them close together because to separate them would be tantamount to “genocide” – and they will visit upon those poor, hapless people living there already – our people, fellow Americans – a hell of biblical proportions. Weep.
Did they ever stop that?
I encountered a little Gypsy girl in Germany in 1988 while I was buying some coffee from a “Schnell Imbiss.” She stole a five-mark coin out of my hand and then gave me a big smile.
You’re not gonna get any of that Roma pussy anyway, so why do you care?
The Irish Travellers (aka Tinkers) are completely different people, nothing to do with Gypsies ethnically, though they like being called ‘Gypsies’ because of the romantic associations of the word. (Real Gypsies don’t like being called Gypsies).
Many years ago my dad ran off a group of Irish travelers who tried to scam him into seal coating his driveway. A nasty tribe of reprobates out of the Carolinas if I remember correctly.
There is a community of them in Texas and they travel the US doing construction scams.
The media hates reporting on them because it is always in relation to crime and we know that Bad Whites must somehow be responsible for the plight of all minorities.
They have no problem scamming old ladies out of everything. They have some religious belief that God gives them a pass on theft.
In South Carolina the gypsies are known by the euphemism “Irish Travellers.” They are scammers who have large, uninhabited mansions yet live in mobile homes behind the house. The neighborhoods are eerie.
https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/An-Irish-Travelers-Life-After-Sentencing-495081051.html
We already have our own tribe of Gypsies in America.
The Irish Travellers.
They seem to be doing pretty well through running various schemes.
My Dad sort of got scammed by one once. The guy did some low-quality, unnecessary work on the property around a couple of decades back.
The guy then disappeared and was never heard from again.
Back around 2012, my mom went to a palm reader who was a Gypsy. I’m not sure if the palm reader was an Irish Traveller or a Roma. The woman asked for $3,500 from my mom to help her rid herself of “evil spirits” that were affecting her future.
Judging by their physical appearance, the Irish Travellers are 100% Irish/European.
On the other hand, the Roma have a very significant component of South Asian ancestry. See below.
https://www.brownpundits.com/author/razib-khan/
The average Roma is 30% South Asian, but they’re in the range of 20-50%.
If you drew a line from India to southeastern Europe (which is the path that the Roma took), the midpoint would roughly be in Turkey or Iran. Interestingly, when you look at the typical Roma, they sort of physically resemble a Turk or an Iranian.
If you assume that both geography and phenotype roughly correlate with ancestry, then it makes sense that the Roma (who absorbed significant DNA during their journey from India to the Balkans) would look Turkish or Iranian.
It should be noted that it has historically been common for Gypsies to kidnap children to use as beggars. Gypsy women also have a long history of being prostitutes/dancers. So that likely is the conduit by which outside ancestry was absorbed.
Both the Roma and Irish Travellers have a very bad reputation. Interestingly, Spanish Gypsies (know as “Gitanos”) are a little bit better, but still bad news.
Some of the more assimilated gypsies in the US, like the ones in New York who run the fortune telling/psychic shops, have assimilated to New York Greek and Italian mafia type culture and norms, and resemble them in culture and phenotype:
Nah, we have blacks. No immigrants can top them.
That would be a good title for a Peckinpah film or a country-western anthem.]
True, some of them succeed to break away from that parasitic culture & become normal, functioning persons (I know about one Roma physician, internist- a decent & smart guy).
But most of them are thieves, burglars or beggars. And they are mentally-emotionally immature. An acquaintance of mine witnessed an exchange between two of them. It seemed it would end up in fight. Yet, nothing. It was:
A: You are talking to me?
B: Yes, but you-to me?
A: I am talking to you!
B: And...?
A: Yes, I am talking to you, but are you talking to me?
B: Me?
A: Yes, you. And I am talking to you, now!
B: But I was talking to you!
A: You were talking? To me?
B: Yes, I was.
A: But I was talking to you, too.
.............................
It lasted ca. 10 minutes & they went away. No info more, just:talking, me, you..
Retarded is a too generous word.
Among other things, I blame European idiots of high caliber (Victor Hugo, Pushkin, Liszt, Georges Bizet, Prosper Merimee, Garcia Lorca, Garcia Marquez, ---) who romanticized this trash.
They always live & move in groups- I've never seen a single Gypsy walking; they are thieves, and due to liberal legal policy, only a part of them ends up in jail (they mostly steal refuse and other things from factories); a female Czech writer had adopted two Roma boys (she was temporarily infertile, but later gave birth to a son). She wrote a memoir of desperation because those Roma kids- she treated them even better than her own son- turned to stealing, lying, alcohol & violence, while her son became a normal boy.
Now, these adoptees are both in jail.
So much about nature/nurture debate. The Call of the Wild.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Patrick Boyle
I used to be a Social Worker for the San Francisco Department of Public Welfare. At that time they had a special unit for the Romani – which was called the Gypsy Unit. It had been learned by hard experience that the gypsies were simply too slippery for the nice middle class liberal girls who were the average Social Workers.
Gypsies are a criminal culture. The blacks who composed the majority of the welfare population were just as unlawful in their tendencies and hopes, but not nearly as clever.
Who are "Adrees Latif and Radu-Sorin Marinas" and why do they write such things?This story will be told when humanity reaches the Magellanic Cloud:Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Reg Cæsar
Adrees Latif = A federalist.
Radu-Sorin Marinas = Mandarin sours air. Ram a rod in anus, sir.
Oh and the prisoners will be made to work, e.g. sewing T-shirts at Third World pay rates. No work, no food.
Once their three years are up, they will need to fend for themselves.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Taoudenni Prison closed in 1988 and is still looking for a new tenant. If you view Mali as toilet-shaped, then this place is about where the flush handle or the float ball would be.
Gypsies were also slaves for over four centuries. Romanian boyars would buy and sell them like cattle. They were probably treated in many ways worse than African slaves in the United States. They were emancipated only in the 1840s and then often fell back to a nomadic life style of thieving and parasitism. Slavery does not seem to have a eugenic effect on populations, to put it mildly.Replies: @Alden
I know the history books claim gypsies were slaves. My opinion it would be impossible.
Gypsies don’t have work skills not even for their own minimal housework and would refuse to be taught. They’d run away steal and generally make a mess. Most important the owner would need 3 supervisors for every 2 gypsy slaves. Maybe the Boyars sold them to suckers who thought they were getting normal workers.
Or maybe it was a scam between the Boyars and gypsies The boyar would sell the gypsies to a sucker. The gypsies would disappear and run back to the Boyar and they’d split the money.
That was a popular scam in the American slave states. The White man would sell his black partner for $800-$1,5000. Then a week later the White would be waiting with horses. The slave would leave and they’d be on to the next auction.
I really can’t imagine gypsies being useful in any way. Unless the boyars bought them from the parents at age 6 and trained them in useful skills and work habits for a few years.
Boyars were Warrior aristocrats. Warrior aristocrats don’t work as low class business people and auctioneers. Middle class people do that low class work. Rome and Turkey were built on slaves. Even the Roman and Turk aristocrats didn’t spoil their hands with low class business and trade.
Just my opinion. I know what the history books claim. From what I know about warrior aristocrats, workers and gypsies I doubt it ever happened.
It is statistically impossible for Eastern European Roma to experience less violence in the USA, especially the diverse states, than in Eastern Europe.
The very murder rate in Romania is 1.5 per 100K
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html
The only three places in the USA not vastly worse than this are Vermont, Maine, and Rhode Island
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-capital-of-the-us-states-with-the-most-murders.html
And that’s before the current crime spree.
So what these Roma chaps are doing is certainly not going to a place where they are exposed to less violence. To the contrary, they will be exposed to ten times more the violence. What they shall be shielded from though, is the disrespectful discrimination of being expected to hold down honest jobs as opposed to living off welfare, pickpocketing, and whoring.
The Balkan Roma constantly generate an ethnic periphery which leaves the toxic core and assimilates into the host society. And when they do assimilate, they assimilate for real. Their kids are already “real Macedonians” or “real Romanians” or “real Bulgarians” or “real Serbs” in every possible sense, except possibly slightly darker pigmentation, but in the territories that used to belong to the Ottoman Empire for half a millennium that’s no big deal. Genetic currents circulated within the empire quite robustly and you get Slavic genes in today’s Turkey and North Africa and Middle East, and vice versa.
But the toxic core of the Roma are held together by “stateless nation” rigid laws like those of the Jews. Only a low IQ outcast Hindu tribe version of “preying on the Goym”.
Theft, begging, and whoring–based Balkan darkie ethnicity being thrown into the Latino and Negro mix. That’s some experiment. Especially keeping in mind that for all their faults, the Balkan gypsies are the least violent of the three (purse snatchers as opposed to feral stabbers). Interesting.
Staunch Conservatives from Erik Erikson to George Will to Jay Nordlinger to David French to Ben Shapiro to Mittens Romney and beyond are all in agreement: burning down what's left of the Republic is a small price to pay, as long as the Bad Orange Man is out of the White House.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
The very murder rate in Romania is 1.5 per 100K
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html
The only three places in the USA not vastly worse than this are Vermont, Maine, and Rhode Island
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-capital-of-the-us-states-with-the-most-murders.html
And that's before the current crime spree.
So what these Roma chaps are doing is certainly not going to a place where they are exposed to less violence. To the contrary, they will be exposed to ten times more the violence. What they shall be shielded from though, is the disrespectful discrimination of being expected to hold down honest jobs as opposed to living off welfare, pickpocketing, and whoring.
The Balkan Roma constantly generate an ethnic periphery which leaves the toxic core and assimilates into the host society. And when they do assimilate, they assimilate for real. Their kids are already "real Macedonians" or "real Romanians" or "real Bulgarians" or "real Serbs" in every possible sense, except possibly slightly darker pigmentation, but in the territories that used to belong to the Ottoman Empire for half a millennium that's no big deal. Genetic currents circulated within the empire quite robustly and you get Slavic genes in today's Turkey and North Africa and Middle East, and vice versa.
But the toxic core of the Roma are held together by "stateless nation" rigid laws like those of the Jews. Only a low IQ outcast Hindu tribe version of "preying on the Goym".
Theft, begging, and whoring--based Balkan darkie ethnicity being thrown into the Latino and Negro mix. That's some experiment. Especially keeping in mind that for all their faults, the Balkan gypsies are the least violent of the three (purse snatchers as opposed to feral stabbers). Interesting.Replies: @anon
Yes, well, ok there could be some small disadvantages to ramping up illegal migration to the highest level in 20 years. But look at the bright side! Donald Trump isn’t on Facebook or Twitter!
Staunch Conservatives from Erik Erikson to George Will to Jay Nordlinger to David French to Ben Shapiro to Mittens Romney and beyond are all in agreement: burning down what’s left of the Republic is a small price to pay, as long as the Bad Orange Man is out of the White House.
* someone said on twutter that all genomic sampling a la Ancestry.com or 23andMe is done in China, so they have a huge genome database to aim at.Replies: @Kevin Brook
You guys have a treat in store.
Tell me, do you by any chance have a shortage of Albanians? They're lovely people too.Replies: @JMcG, @Bill B., @Harry Baldwin
Tell me, do you by any chance have a shortage of Albanians? They’re lovely people too.
Especially the topless news presenters.
https://www.thesun.ie/archives/irish-news/150523/albanian-newsreaders-strip-down-to-boost-audience/
Back in the day, England was rather ethnically homogenous, and by claiming Gypsy blood, one could make a connection to the dark, mysterious, magical, elemental type man of DH Lawrence and Heathcliffe.
Pop singer, David Essex, for example, forged an image on this.Now that the reality of Roma looks, behaviour, character etc are glaring apparent to all Britons, thanks Blair, thanks Economist, expect this little conceit to die a death.Replies: @Kevin Brook
They are sometimes telling the truth. There really are Englishmen with small amounts of genuine Romany autosomal DNA admixture. That is why, sometimes, they even carry the characteristically South Asian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroups H-M69, H-M82, and H-L901. Donald Locke did extensive research on this at Family Tree DNA involving people in modern England as well as descendants of English people in the United States. They are in Romany-specific lineages and are a separate group of people from the “Anglo-Indians” like Richard Branson who are descended from more recent ancestors from India.
You're going to loooove this lot. Trust me.Replies: @gandydancer
Our “leaders” aren’t doing much better, but Merkel isn’t an American.
The attempt at anti-anti-gypsiism in The Castafiore Emerald was well-meant but a bit on the nose.
Still Hergé's best piece.This turns out to go surprisingly well.
Meanwhile: Reparations!
Berlin pledges reparations after recognizing Namibia ‘genocide’ carried out by German colonial troopsReminder that this happened during Wilhelm's Germany, which is two empires removed from Heiko Maas' current self-abolishing diversity phenomenon.
Will Evil Sweden ever pay reparations for what they did to Central Europe during the 30 Years War?This fits right in with standard African history, which is a continual history of wipeouts, not many of them done by whites.Could they have adapted to Beersteins, Meerschaumpfeifen and Protestanism instead of revolting? We will never know!Replies: @Rob McX
I bet the first thing they’ll do with their reparations money is head for Germany. They might not have even heard of the place till this windfall landed on their laps, but if the Germans are such suckers their country must sound like the ideal destination.
… in their language. And they will treat everyone around them accordingly, as a non-“rom”.
Enjoy single family clans occupying whole housing complexes, letting their children roam around to “gather” some resources from the neighbourhood and the adults slowly but inevitably build large structures of trash around their dwellings and then start blaming the hosting community for not caring about their “social and sanitary conditions”. Sooner or later you’ll find sorry looking women (accompanied by some even more sorry looking baby, depending on local CPS-diligence) uttering a shreeky “pleeease, pleeeeas” in front of every shop, see them (and their earnings) getting collected by men driving around in Mercedes S-class vehicles in the evening.
“The expansion of the EU eastward at US prompting is the gift that just keeps giving and whatever else anyone claims was a necessary part of Brexit happening”
Yes. Tony Blair’s opening of the borders in 2004/5 to Eastern Europe when every other country bar Ireland shut them for a 6 year ‘transitional period’ caused a drop in real male wages (more of a collapse in say the London building trade). That and Merkel’s Million Muslim Male Migration Mistake were probably the key tipping points for the Brexit vote.
Roma (as in “Romany gipsies”) have been in the UK for hundreds of years (a passing band famously kidnapped the three year old Adam Smith), and had a reasonable modus vivendi with the settled population. The Victorian writer George Borrow befriended and travelled with them. He noted their fear of the more recently arrived Irish travellers, who are ethnically Irish.
The Eastern European Roma seem to specialise in pickpocketing, also in hanging round cashpoint (ATM) machines waiting for elderly people to withdraw cash before grabbing it and running.
'Avoid London, it's full of Pakistanis,' Romanians warn fellow migrants
I suspect these are real native Romanians, not gypsies.
I had heard about one case in the UK from friends where some Eastern European guys were kicked out of some asian neighbourhood by local immigrant Muslim Pakistani and Bangladeshi youth who told them to leave "their country" go back to their "shitty" countries. LOL. Really. Their country? UK, their country?
And Shitty countries? The poorest places in Eastern Europe is paradise compared to most of the Indian Subcontinent. LOL.From a Pakistani newspaper
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1132303/brexit-pakistani-brits-perspective
"Asian and African communities also have concerns regarding eastern European immigrants coming into the UK. "
..snip...
"It led to immense amusement when, except for one individual, everyone was found to be anti-EU. I found most Pakistani Brits to be extremely anti-eastern Europeans. "
Be sure to ask about the warranty!Replies: @Tony massey
I think those are melungeons. I used to hear alot about them when i was much younger. I think they originate out of the Southeast with deep ties to Appalachia but can’t say i know much about them.
I read where they had a reunion of sorts somewhere in west Virginia years ago.
Supposedly, they were pretty notorious.
I forever heard about the driveway scam as a kid and i remember clearly it was melungeons behind it.
Maybe somebody here knows about them.
Been years since I’ve heard anything.
Staunch Conservatives from Erik Erikson to George Will to Jay Nordlinger to David French to Ben Shapiro to Mittens Romney and beyond are all in agreement: burning down what's left of the Republic is a small price to pay, as long as the Bad Orange Man is out of the White House.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
“burning down what’s left of the Republic is a small price to pay, as long as the Bad Orange Man is out of the White House”
The Guardian are slowly discovering that Covid Lab Leak* is a possibility even if Bad Orange Man talks about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/27/did-covid-come-from-a-wuhan-lab-what-we-know-so-far
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/29/lab-leak-theory-covid-natural-manmade-sars-cov-2
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/may/27/facebook-lifts-ban-on-posts-claiming-covid-19-was-man-made
It’s nice of them to decide that yesterday you were an ill-intentioned conspiracy theorist but today you might be a noble truth seeker. Bit like the way the Soviet Union or China “rehabilitated” people (usually decades after they’d been shot, admittedly).
I’ve grown to distrust the MSM so much that when they all do a volte-face simultaneously I start to wonder what they’re up to now. Bit like the way it’s open season on Bill Gates all of a sudden.
* someone said on twutter that all genomic sampling a la Ancestry.com or 23andMe is done in China, so they have a huge genome database to aim at.
As it says on their official site: "Your DNA sample is processed by our third party laboratory services provider, Labcorp, located in the U.S."
China does have a DNA testing company of its own called WeGene. It is unrelated to either 23andMe or Ancestry.
he imagines Gypsies were worse treated than other servi (“Şerbi”), or that Medieval Gypsies were limited to future Romanian lands, I hope his country gets blessed with thousands of Gypsy doctors and rocket scientists.
Where did I imply any of that, oláh? Thanks to your Wallachian and Moldovan ancestors, we now have Gypsies all over the place. But when Erdély is returned to its rightful owners maybe we can fix that.
Blaming Gypsies' backwardness on slavery implies jobbágy or вечи́ны had it better. That is a denial of Medieval poverty in the majority population on a par with Project 1619.
Also, according to Wikipedia, for what it's worth: "Their early history shows a mixed reception. Although 1385 marks the first recorded transaction for a Romani slave in Wallachia, they were issued safe conduct by Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund in 1417. Romanis were ordered expelled from the Meissen region of Germany in 1416, Lucerne in 1471, Milan in 1493, France in 1504, Catalonia in 1512, Sweden in 1525, England in 1530 (see Egyptians Act 1530), and Denmark in 1536. In 1510, any Romani found in Switzerland were ordered put to death, with similar rules established in England in 1554, and Denmark in 1589, whereas Portugal began deportations of Romanis to its colonies in 1538. A 1596 English statute gave Romanis special privileges that other wanderers lacked. France passed a similar law in 1683." In other words, the main Gypsophile person in Europe was the Hungarian-German-Bohemian king. It's not Romanians who sent them everywhere; it's the Fritz, Jacques and John who gave them free passage. Our passport is not as good for travel, even today.
Also, the Wiki adds: "Catherine the Great of Russia declared the Romanis "crown slaves". During the latter part of the 17th century, around the Franco-Dutch War, both France and Holland needed thousands of men to fight. Some recruitment took the form of rounding up vagrants and the poor to work the galleys and provide the armies' labour force. With this background, Romanis were targets of both the French and the Dutch." Calling Romanian boyars the only Gypsy owners in the world is likely false. Many people were fooled into owning Gypsies, when in fact it's similar to the human-cat relationship. Even if called "master", you don't own a cat or a Gypsy. They own you.
Where did you read about this?
If you had never learned American history and someone told you the black people standing on street corners in inner cities selling drugs and the massively obese women yelling at each other in Walmart were descended from valuable 19th century agricultural workers and house servants, would that seem any more likely?
“Race>culture.”
No. One’s religion trumps his/her skin suit.
Well, maybe true, but when I was there, everywhere I went I was treated with courtesy, friendliness, and respect. Also, chess is a mandatory subject in elementary school. In an age when U.S. kids are taught hatred and such, Armenians are exposing kids to the attention span, restraint, and logic of chess. I am not Armenian, but I found them to be really decent, whatever their genetics.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
Hot women too.
Where did you read about this?
She saw a 1970’s movie on late night tv.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_Game
Trying to track down Alden’s “history” claims gets tiresome after a while, because it’s always a mix of some facts and other stuff. Usually a lot of other stuff and maybe one fact. Waste of time.
Yes, it would seem more likely. I have been exposed enough to Romanian gypsies in my life time to find it virtually impossible to imagine them working hard at demanding physical labor in any circumstances.
* someone said on twutter that all genomic sampling a la Ancestry.com or 23andMe is done in China, so they have a huge genome database to aim at.Replies: @Kevin Brook
Nope, that Twitter person is wrong. 23andMe customers have their autosomes sequenced in the United States – not in China.
As it says on their official site: “Your DNA sample is processed by our third party laboratory services provider, Labcorp, located in the U.S.”
China does have a DNA testing company of its own called WeGene. It is unrelated to either 23andMe or Ancestry.
Where did I imply any of that, oláh? Thanks to your Wallachian and Moldovan ancestors, we now have Gypsies all over the place. But when Erdély is returned to its rightful owners maybe we can fix that.Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
You said “Gypsies were also slaves for over four centuries. Romanian boyars would buy and sell them like cattle. They were probably treated in many ways worse than African slaves in the United States.”
Blaming Gypsies’ backwardness on slavery implies jobbágy or вечи́ны had it better. That is a denial of Medieval poverty in the majority population on a par with Project 1619.
Also, according to Wikipedia, for what it’s worth: “Their early history shows a mixed reception. Although 1385 marks the first recorded transaction for a Romani slave in Wallachia, they were issued safe conduct by Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund in 1417. Romanis were ordered expelled from the Meissen region of Germany in 1416, Lucerne in 1471, Milan in 1493, France in 1504, Catalonia in 1512, Sweden in 1525, England in 1530 (see Egyptians Act 1530), and Denmark in 1536. In 1510, any Romani found in Switzerland were ordered put to death, with similar rules established in England in 1554, and Denmark in 1589, whereas Portugal began deportations of Romanis to its colonies in 1538. A 1596 English statute gave Romanis special privileges that other wanderers lacked. France passed a similar law in 1683.” In other words, the main Gypsophile person in Europe was the Hungarian-German-Bohemian king. It’s not Romanians who sent them everywhere; it’s the Fritz, Jacques and John who gave them free passage. Our passport is not as good for travel, even today.
Also, the Wiki adds: “Catherine the Great of Russia declared the Romanis “crown slaves”. During the latter part of the 17th century, around the Franco-Dutch War, both France and Holland needed thousands of men to fight. Some recruitment took the form of rounding up vagrants and the poor to work the galleys and provide the armies’ labour force. With this background, Romanis were targets of both the French and the Dutch.” Calling Romanian boyars the only Gypsy owners in the world is likely false. Many people were fooled into owning Gypsies, when in fact it’s similar to the human-cat relationship. Even if called “master”, you don’t own a cat or a Gypsy. They own you.
Where did the screenwriters of the 1970s comedy “Skin Game” with James Garner and Lou Gossett Jr. get the idea for their movie?
The Oscar winning movie “12 Years a Slave” may have been based on a skin game transaction gone wrong. That’s what the hero’s hometown newspaper in upstate New York accused. The movie’s plot makes more sense — e.g., why his family isn’t all that happy to see him finally home at the end — if that’s what happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_Game
Scroll down to the Production.I think some guy wrote a storybook, some other guy took it on as a movie project, some other guys rewrote and re-rewrote it a few times. No historical facts were harmed, or even touched, in the process.
Where did the screenwriters of the 1970s comedy “Skin Game” with James Garner and Lou Gossett Jr. get the idea for their movie?
C’mon, man! Don’t you even wiki? I know you read this web page a little bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_Game
Scroll down to the Production.
I think some guy wrote a storybook, some other guy took it on as a movie project, some other guys rewrote and re-rewrote it a few times.
No historical facts were harmed, or even touched, in the process.
“The Good, The Bad and The Ugly” (1966) has a similar type of scam, with the Eli Wallach character being turned in by Blondie, the bounty hunter played by Clint Eastwood.
The real question is why Mexico has changed its own immigration policy. Until a few years ago (ten? fifteen?), Mexico was quite tough on legal and illegal immigrantion, especially from Central America. Indeed, it was a recurring “irritant” in Mexico-Central America relations, to speak in diplomatese. this gatekeeping was part of the agreed status quo in US-Mexico relations.
Now Mexico has colombian gangs specializing in burglary and break ins, haitians starting their own slums, various africans requesting charity and muslim groups in Chiapas offering a yearly free trip to Mecca to locals who convert. Funny, this immigration thing. It just happens all over, like anarchism just happened in Europe in the 19th century.
There were many unintended and positive results of this move. The best was that Eastern Europeans came to Western Europe with high hopes only for some to realise what a disaster multiracial, multicultural Western Europe was. They got their psychological vaccinations and now they do not want this shitshow in their own countries. This partly fueled the resistance in countries like Poland and Hungary and others from EU globo homo promoted Kalergi plan White genocide Weapons of Mass Migration of non European foreign infiltrators.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379820/Avoid-London-it-s-full-of-Pakistanis-Romanians-warn-fellow-migrants
‘Avoid London, it’s full of Pakistanis,’ Romanians warn fellow migrants
I suspect these are real native Romanians, not gypsies.
I had heard about one case in the UK from friends where some Eastern European guys were kicked out of some asian neighbourhood by local immigrant Muslim Pakistani and Bangladeshi youth who told them to leave “their country” go back to their “shitty” countries. LOL. Really. Their country? UK, their country?
And Shitty countries? The poorest places in Eastern Europe is paradise compared to most of the Indian Subcontinent. LOL.
From a Pakistani newspaper
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1132303/brexit-pakistani-brits-perspective
“Asian and African communities also have concerns regarding eastern European immigrants coming into the UK. “
..snip…
“It led to immense amusement when, except for one individual, everyone was found to be anti-EU. I found most Pakistani Brits to be extremely anti-eastern Europeans. “
Not only are Pakistanis clashing with gypsies in the UK, Algerians/ Morrocans etc… are clashing with gypsies in France.
In France there have been many attacks against Roma people recorded in France primarily in North African immigrant cities and towns around Paris, including Bobigny, Clichy-sous-Bois, Montreuil, Bondy, Colombes, Montfermeil, Saint-Ouen, Champs-sur-Marne, Aulnay and Sevran. According to initial reports, the attacks appear to have been organised and orchestrated by locals, from poor and immigrant (North African + Sub-saharan African) backgrounds, in areas in which Roma people also live.
5 years back some Chinese shop-owners in France beat up Gypsy thieves.
Roma women accused of theft beaten in French street by Chinese shop owners
The Chinese shopkeepers in France had been complaining about the French police being ineffective against crimes committed by darkies, of several attacks as well as break ins in their stores for some time. So since the law enforcement was inadequate, as it happens they took matters in their own hands.
I guess, mass immigration of non European foreigners to European countries has been bad for the gypsies.
You mean other than non-cosmopolitan whites (NCW), do you not?
So really Roma gypsies are just Palestinians who moved to Europe?
The gypsies are genetically European: https://razib.substack.com/p/outcast-as-i-wanna-be. So the migrants claiming to be Romanian are correct to do so. It doesn’t matter if the Romanians want them or not, they are far more Romanian than Indian by ancestry.