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Look carefully at the photograph of these two powerful Africans, and try to identify a single object in the photo which was created by Africans. Just one? The bead bracelet, maybe?
Not even, of course, the photo itself.
A further down the map:
At least 10 [Nigerians?] killed in riots & attacks on foreigners – South Africa’s Ramaphosa
Anyway, you could repeat the same exercise with photos of Americans, nowadays...
He will not be missed.
I remember Mugabe being feted in the pinko British press in the late 70s and early 80s around the Lancaster house settlement for Rhodesia when it was already obvious he was a really nasty piece of work.
It’s worth reading former Rhodesian Prime Minster Ian Smith’s book — The Great Betrayal (Available on Amazon US, but for a small fortune)
http://libgen.is/search.php?req=ian+smith+great+betrayalReplies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cato
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
The style, funk, soul in that photograph is 100% African.
It must be weird to be the ostensible head honcho,
yet be surrounded and inundated by technology
and material culture that is utterly alien and foreign
to you and your people.
Like those clothes,
chairs,
glasses,
building,
air conditioner …
——
Yes this is a funny picture.
Imagining the back story is funny as well.
I can imagine him browsing some early 2000’s
kitschy consumer trinket catalog and
seeing a spread of photo customized
coffee mugs, t-shirts and the like.
Hastily calls his servant
“Wimwam! Get me this!”
——-
I wonder if the people these days
who get all bent out of shape
at seeing things named after people
like Cecil Rhodes,
ever consider that if it was
still called Rhodesia,
there would surely be less misery and privation.
——-
Rhodes wanted to expand the British Empire because he believed that the Anglo-Saxon race was destined to greatness. In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the English, “I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. I contend that every acre added to our territory means the birth of more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence.”
I will miss his constant pleading in order to save his country from starvation. Who will I laugh at now?
https://youtu.be/N2w0QweWlrQReplies: @Tusk, @Realist
Was Mugabe the last great Catholic autocrat to stand up to Protestant error and tyranny?
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabe
Probably beats getting raped to death by alumni of the School of the Americas in Guatemala.Replies: @Hank Yobo, @Anonymous
A Jesuit and Dominican were traveling on a train through the South about 70 years ago. Another passenger asked if they were priests, and about the differences in their dress. She wasn't aware of Jesuits and Dominicans.
"What's the difference?"
They explained that the Jesuits were founded to combat Protestantism.
"Oh, I see. And the Dominicans?"
"We were founded to combat Albigensianism."
"What is Albigensianism?"
"Ma'am, that is the difference!"
So she, at least, remained a real Catholic till the end of her days.
Dictator Mobutu of the Belgian Congo, who began his reign by banning Christian first names, ended it as a devout traditional Catholic, who spent much of his time and money aiding the traditional monastery of Le Barroux in the delectable Vaucluse region of southeastern France.
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
Well, certainly the patriarchic power position was.
A further down the map:
At least 10 [Nigerians?] killed in riots & attacks on foreigners – South Africa’s Ramaphosa
It's worth reading former Rhodesian Prime Minster Ian Smith's book — The Great Betrayal (Available on Amazon US, but for a small fortune)Replies: @Diversity is Wrong, @bigdicknick
Book available here –
http://libgen.is/search.php?req=ian+smith+great+betrayal
yet be surrounded and inundated by technology
and material culture that is utterly alien and foreign
to you and your people.Like those clothes,
chairs,
glasses,
building,
air conditioner ...
------Yes this is a funny picture.
Imagining the back story is funny as well.I can imagine him browsing some early 2000'skitschy consumer trinket catalog and seeing a spread of photo customizedcoffee mugs, t-shirts and the like.Hastily calls his servant"Wimwam! Get me this!"-------I wonder if the people these days
who get all bent out of shape
at seeing things named after people
like Cecil Rhodes,
ever consider that if it was
still called Rhodesia,
there would surely be less misery and privation.
-------
Rhodes wanted to expand the British Empire because he believed that the Anglo-Saxon race was destined to greatness. In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the English, "I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. I contend that every acre added to our territory means the birth of more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence."Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Flip, @Oddsbodkins, @Currahee
When I was younger, I would likely have taken exception to this self-satisfied, imperialist view. Now I recognize it was probably no more or less than the unvarnished truth.
Bobby had a bit of Bidenistic realtalk in him. Though I suppose all third-world Strongmen are freer in speech than our politicians. Sometimes he comes off as a prophet; more often he sounds, you know, African.
And the hairline to match.
Some others:
"If President Barack Obama wants me to allow marriage for same-sex couples in my country, he must come here so that I can marry him first."
"Sometimes you look back at girls you spent money on rather than send it to your mum and you realize witchcraft is real."
"Nothing makes a woman more confused than being in a relationship with a broke man who is extremely good in bed."
"If you are ugly you are ugly. Stop talking about inner beauty because we don't walk around with X-rays."
"It is every man's dream to remove a woman's pants one day, but not when it's on a clothesline."Replies: @syonredux
Time was Zimbabwe used to field a mostly white cricket team just twenty years ago. Zimbabwe is another case where even the most cynical forecasts were too optimistic.
Interestingly Ian Smith lived out his days in peace in Zimbabwe, Mugabe left him unmolested.
Having mentioned cricket and a Smith I hope Steve is paying attention to the latest Ashes series. Aussie Steve Smith is drawing comparisons to Sir Donald Bradman. Averaging 147 in the series he is dragging up his test career average above 63, still a way off Bradman’s 99, but Bradman is no longer such an outrageous outlier.
Has a very unconventional style, almost dancing around, but unreal eyesight, reflexes and coordination.
He was popular with average blacks and used to get large standing ovations from them. Mugabe was canny enough to leave him alone.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corn
Smith is having a good run against a weak attack.Replies: @LondonBob
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
He was a Marxist-Leninist, so despite the current pope (also Jesuit), I’m gonna go ahead and say no.
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
Well, Protestantism has turned a bit away from its orginal sin of being utterly Taliban to Western-style Christianity, and I still don’t know on which side of the Schism lies the larger kill-list, but I don’t know whether looking at Mugabe through this angle is really informative.
The only thing that comes to mind are badass padres in Spaghetti Western.
Probably beats getting raped to death by alumni of the School of the Americas in Guatemala.
So who inherits?
Anyway, to answer the spirit of the question, the current president of Zimbabwe is Emmerson Dambudzo Mnangagwa (76). His VP (and leader of the coup that brought him to power) is General Constantino Guveya Dominic Nyikadzino Chiwenga (63). They seem to follow most of the old Supremo's policies, except with new top management.Replies: @Bugg
Not often that one sees the same headlines in Steve Sailer blog posts and ANC press releases:-)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MYANC/status/1169855440869416960
Now that we’re in that part of the world, it looks like black South Africans have been infected with white nationalism; how else could one explain the current wave of anti-immigrant violence down there?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/03/south-african-president-condemns-anti-foreigner-violence
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/world/africa/south-africa-immigrants.html
Looks like the foreigners do not intend to go down as passive victims:
https://mobile.twitter.com/IanCameron23/status/1168886734723174401?s=20
If life in the Rainbow Nation does not convince you that multiculturalism is a wonderful thing, I do not know what it will take.
Rhodesia and Ian Smith’s unilateral declaration of independence in the 1960s may have warranted special attention in the Western press, because it was so unusual, but the later coverage of Zimbabwe and Mugabe was disproportionate to its importance in the scheme of things and its population.
That tends to be generally true of our press when it comes to foreign affairs; they’re quite innumerate.
The population of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe was barely 4 million in 1970. Similarly, the population of Afghanistan was barely 5 million when the Soviets invaded at the end of that decade. That kind of disproportionate attention tends to be the rule to this day. Of course, geopolitics often drive the focus on particular nations, but even so, events tend to get magnified out of proportion to the populations involved, by the press and our foreign policy establishment.
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
Nope, bracelet is made in China.
BTW, it looks like Mugabe has been dead for quite some time. What’s Whoopi Goldberg doing with his corpse?
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
Wow, those quotes give me a new found respect for the guy. Especially that last one.
http://libgen.is/search.php?req=ian+smith+great+betrayalReplies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cato
Thanks for the link, I see le Carre writes the foreword:
Good.
He was a rotten dirtbag. Too bad he didn’t die 60 years earlier
Mugabe has been out of power since 2017, when a rival strongman kicked him out. The affair itself was fairly civilized: a bloodless coup, and the old President “voluntarily” resigned in return for getting to keep his life and private property (presumably under close supervision). In fact, it went so smoothly that many people think the Chinese had a hand in it. They increasingly do in a lot of these African matters, don’t they?
Anyway, to answer the spirit of the question, the current president of Zimbabwe is Emmerson Dambudzo Mnangagwa (76). His VP (and leader of the coup that brought him to power) is General Constantino Guveya Dominic Nyikadzino Chiwenga (63). They seem to follow most of the old Supremo’s policies, except with new top management.
No one really cares about Zimbabwe anymore.
On the global scale it’s a mere irrelevance, noted only for the extremity of its inflation rate and HIV positivity.
One wonders what would have been Rhodesia’s impact and trajectory on the world if it had been settled and colonized around year 1790 rather than 1890.
CounterinsurgencyReplies: @Corn
https://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/southern-rhodesia-rejects-joining-union-south-africa
I assume that means Rot In Place?
May I propose Lady Nugee, aka Emily Thornberry?
That’s by John le Carre?
Wow.
The foreword is by the late Rupert Cornwell, who was a respected foreign correspondent and a half-brother to David Cornwell, whose pen name, of course, is John le Carre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Cornwell
John le Carre thinks the Hungarian government are fascists. I don't imagine MI6 operatives have got any less left wing since his day.Replies: @LondonBob, @RVBlake
Such a reasoned and perceptive foreword could never have been written by John le Carre, the quintessential Guardian baying-at-the-moon leftist!
I think it means Rhodesia In Perpetuity.
He has FU money.
On the global scale it's a mere irrelevance, noted only for the extremity of its inflation rate and HIV positivity.
One wonders what would have been Rhodesia's impact and trajectory on the world if it had been settled and colonized around year 1790 rather than 1890.Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Counterinsurgency, @Herzog, @PaulS
One wonders that about all of southern Africa. So near and yet so far. Its bantu land now and will never be civilised. It should have been another America.
Only 'indigenous' Africans welcome and now they are even killing them in last four days of riots...
Can't make up their minds...Replies: @J.Ross
I have also said that some "reverse" eugenecists believe that it is blacks who are superior to whites with their ability to push us around... Why is it we allow ourselves to get slapped in the face again?
Morley Safer (back when he was Canadian) interviewing Mugabe long ago. He says Salisbury, Rhodesia “grew up looking like Edmonton”. A sick burn back in 1962.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1855328640
Sorry for the error.
John le Carre thinks the Hungarian government are fascists. I don’t imagine MI6 operatives have got any less left wing since his day.
Anyway Graham Greene's 'Our man in Havana' is meant to be the most accurate portrayal of spy world. Incompetent liars and frauds.Replies: @Anonymous
No, it’s by Rupert Cornwell, half-brother of le Carré.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
Mugabe called his opponent Simba Makoni (who was always trying to get overseas funding) a “prostitute without clients”. It seems like a good description of the Dem candidates who poll at 1% and yet are busy trying to raise cash and be ultra-woke.
John le Carre thinks the Hungarian government are fascists. I don't imagine MI6 operatives have got any less left wing since his day.Replies: @LondonBob, @RVBlake
Le Carre spends his days ranting about Brexit.
Anyway Graham Greene’s ‘Our man in Havana’ is meant to be the most accurate portrayal of spy world. Incompetent liars and frauds.
PiltdownMan:
Such a reasoned and perceptive foreword could never have been written by John le Carre, the quintessential Guardian baying-at-the-moon leftist!
R.I.P. ? How about B.I.H. instead?
Robert Mugabe said “Blair keep your Britain and I will keep my Zimbabwe” but that’s never been the deal, has it?
Henry Kissinger’s thugocrat.
His legacy is reversion to the Stone Age.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
“Bobby had a bit of Bidenistic realtalk in him.”
And the hairline to match.
John le Carre thinks the Hungarian government are fascists. I don't imagine MI6 operatives have got any less left wing since his day.Replies: @LondonBob, @RVBlake
When Salmon Rushdie was fleeing the fatwa issued against him by the Ayatollah in response to his perceived heresy for writing “Satanic Verses”, Le Carre opined to the effect that is what happens when one maligns a great religion.
Any relation to John Cornwell the ‘Hitler’s Pope’ guy?
His brother in a very disfunctional family; the father being a professional conman.
Numinous Negroes – a gift that keeps on giving.
Thank you, New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans and other Yank WASPs for declaring the Negro Numinous and being thrilled to slaughter ‘other’ whites to make them bow to you and your notions on Negroes.
yet be surrounded and inundated by technology
and material culture that is utterly alien and foreign
to you and your people.Like those clothes,
chairs,
glasses,
building,
air conditioner ...
------Yes this is a funny picture.
Imagining the back story is funny as well.I can imagine him browsing some early 2000'skitschy consumer trinket catalog and seeing a spread of photo customizedcoffee mugs, t-shirts and the like.Hastily calls his servant"Wimwam! Get me this!"-------I wonder if the people these days
who get all bent out of shape
at seeing things named after people
like Cecil Rhodes,
ever consider that if it was
still called Rhodesia,
there would surely be less misery and privation.
-------
Rhodes wanted to expand the British Empire because he believed that the Anglo-Saxon race was destined to greatness. In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the English, "I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. I contend that every acre added to our territory means the birth of more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence."Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Flip, @Oddsbodkins, @Currahee
Interestingly, Germany was included with the British Commonwealth and the US as those originally eligible for the Rhodes Scholarships so I guess he figured the home of the Angles and Saxons was close enough.
https://youtu.be/N2w0QweWlrQReplies: @Tusk, @Realist
Thanks, I had a good laugh watching that perhaps I’ll keep my eye out for her in the future to see what other blunders she manages.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
I was thinking B.I.H. would be more appropriate, but yours will do. I see commenter G Poulin is ahead of me.
Interestingly Ian Smith lived out his days in peace in Zimbabwe, Mugabe left him unmolested.
Having mentioned cricket and a Smith I hope Steve is paying attention to the latest Ashes series. Aussie Steve Smith is drawing comparisons to Sir Donald Bradman. Averaging 147 in the series he is dragging up his test career average above 63, still a way off Bradman's 99, but Bradman is no longer such an outrageous outlier.
https://youtu.be/DUxbfz3daXQ
Has a very unconventional style, almost dancing around, but unreal eyesight, reflexes and coordination.Replies: @Philip, @anonymous, @anon
Not quite true regarding Ian Smith. His final days were in an old age home in Cape Town – but the thrust of your comment is largely correct.
Say what you want, but he fought The Man™ and won back his country for his people.
Isn’t that also the dream for all of us here? 😉
Mugabe was so evil they could have made him Pope
So, in other words, nothing. Correct?
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
You are apparently unaware that the Jesuits 1) are in open rebellion against the Catholic faith and 2) Were anti-Catholic subversives within the Church for several decades before they came to dominance after the 1960s.
We can retake Rhodesia from the Chinese.
It’ll only take a few of us, let’s do this fam!
Anyone who have the guilty pleasure to play The Wizard of Oz song “Ding-dong the witch is dead”?
Or that banned South African Nando’s tv ad? 😉
mugabe was the typical african gangster politician.
during the bush war he gained victory through terror(to quote the koran). killing inumerable blacks to frighten the population to support him. He was the main benefactor of the chinese during the bush war and used Mao like tactics. He efectively handed the chinese preeminance in Zim.
after the war he continued to terrorise killing between 20-40000 ndebele (the compeittors to the shona, his tribe) to ensure his ruel over the country.
He was temporarily bought out by the west, but when there was the vaguest threat to his rule he went onthe war with the middle class , both black and white , to ensure there was no threat to him in the country.
He leave a despoiled country and a very rich wife.Grace, the bitch from benoni, who has the mining rights to the very rich diamond fields there, and a country firmly in the chinese orbit and a country ethnicaly cleansed of whites
He will be applauded as a liberator because he is anti white as many of the wests journalsis are.
I once calculated (2000) Zims economy against its average IQ. Zim and South Africa were major positive outliers. Mugabe brought it into line.
Zim has a wonderful climate, a pleasant and friendly population, bountiful minerals but a political elite caught in their own narcisistic self indulgence
https://www.south-africa-tours-and-travel.com/images/portrait-ndebele-woman-united-nations-ndebeletribe.jpgReplies: @PV van der Byl
It's worth reading former Rhodesian Prime Minster Ian Smith's book — The Great Betrayal (Available on Amazon US, but for a small fortune)Replies: @Diversity is Wrong, @bigdicknick
worth noting that the book is likely to retain most of its value, so the lifetime cost is significantly lower than the price if you are willing to relist it and mail it to its next owner.
Ray Davies outfit was actually a bathrobe not a jacket. Not sure what the hat is.
It’s people like Mugabe that is why Africans can’t have nice things.
Rhodesia would one might wager be notably better off if he’d had an ordinary lifespan. Africa has seen worse than his regime, but not all that many so adept at turning passable situations into wretched situations. Per the fellows over at the Maddison project, there are only a half-dozen African countries whose net economic performance since 1960 has been worse and only three whose net performance since 1989 has been worse (and two of those three are failed states).
Interestingly Ian Smith lived out his days in peace in Zimbabwe, Mugabe left him unmolested.
Having mentioned cricket and a Smith I hope Steve is paying attention to the latest Ashes series. Aussie Steve Smith is drawing comparisons to Sir Donald Bradman. Averaging 147 in the series he is dragging up his test career average above 63, still a way off Bradman's 99, but Bradman is no longer such an outrageous outlier.
https://youtu.be/DUxbfz3daXQ
Has a very unconventional style, almost dancing around, but unreal eyesight, reflexes and coordination.Replies: @Philip, @anonymous, @anon
‘Interestingly Ian Smith lived out his days in peace in Zimbabwe, Mugabe left him unmolested.’
He was popular with average blacks and used to get large standing ovations from them. Mugabe was canny enough to leave him alone.
Now former PM Smith was shopping at a large department store in Harare in the 1990s. Word spread he’s in the store and a large crowd of black townspeople gathered outside the front door. I don’t know how raw memories of the Bush War were in the ‘90s but the manager approached Smith and wished to hurry him out through a rear or side exit lest the crowd have unfriendly intentions.
Smith supposedly said, “Don’t worry, they are my people.”
He then walked out the front door and in typical politician mode started shaking hands and making small talk with a friendly crowd.
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
The flower arrangement, presumably.
Anyway, you could repeat the same exercise with photos of Americans, nowadays…
Japan has more debt that Zimbabwe (government debt as a proportion of GDP) if you believe the Japanese government.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
Quotes #1 and #3 are smarter than most sh__ Western politicians say nowadays.
yet be surrounded and inundated by technology
and material culture that is utterly alien and foreign
to you and your people.Like those clothes,
chairs,
glasses,
building,
air conditioner ...
------Yes this is a funny picture.
Imagining the back story is funny as well.I can imagine him browsing some early 2000'skitschy consumer trinket catalog and seeing a spread of photo customizedcoffee mugs, t-shirts and the like.Hastily calls his servant"Wimwam! Get me this!"-------I wonder if the people these days
who get all bent out of shape
at seeing things named after people
like Cecil Rhodes,
ever consider that if it was
still called Rhodesia,
there would surely be less misery and privation.
-------
Rhodes wanted to expand the British Empire because he believed that the Anglo-Saxon race was destined to greatness. In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the English, "I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. I contend that every acre added to our territory means the birth of more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence."Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Flip, @Oddsbodkins, @Currahee
On the contrary, you are looking at a technical innovator in the practice of quantitative easing.
On a positive note Mr. Mugabe’s economic policies live on at the Federal Reserve.
Robert Mugabe, RIH — Rot in Hell
So, now we can call him “late unlamented Mugabe”? Can’t wait for Soros getting the same title. For years now he looks like he died a couple of weeks ago.
Should be RIH – Rot In Hell.
He was a rotten dirtbag. Too bad he didn't die 60 years earlierReplies: @Achmed E. Newman
Just used up my [AGREE].
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
Correct blacks are a race that has created little of value.
That's observably false. But, hey, if it makes you feel any better believing in a lie, go right ahead, George Castanza.
I think some are taking it too far with that ignorant nog meme. After all there was the Real McCoy, Elijah McCoy (1844 – 1929) who was quite a useful inventor with 57 US patents. No Tesla (112 US patents), but still no lightweight in the intellectual capacities department. Being a Mc, I guess he may have had some Scottish origin, and those Scots claim they're the greatest inventors ever, even appropriating other nation's inventions such as the umbrella, known to the Chinese and others long before. Anyway, McCoy studied in Edinburgh where he became a certified mechanical engineer so maybe he picked up some Scottish inventiveness while over there.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Elijah_McCoy.jpg/485px-Elijah_McCoy.jpgReplies: @Realist
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
There are a number of memorable Mugabe quotes on-line. Apparently he was quite knowledgeable about hair-weaves: “It’s hard to bewitch African girls these days. Each time you take a piece of their hair to a Witch Doctor, either an innocent Brazilian gets hurt or a factory in India catches fire.”
Some others:
“If President Barack Obama wants me to allow marriage for same-sex couples in my country, he must come here so that I can marry him first.”
“Sometimes you look back at girls you spent money on rather than send it to your mum and you realize witchcraft is real.”
“Nothing makes a woman more confused than being in a relationship with a broke man who is extremely good in bed.”
“If you are ugly you are ugly. Stop talking about inner beauty because we don’t walk around with X-rays.”
“It is every man’s dream to remove a woman’s pants one day, but not when it’s on a clothesline.”
https://youtu.be/N2w0QweWlrQReplies: @Tusk, @Realist
Excellent choice…but there are so many.
He truly was the world’s grandfather! Godspeed! And take comfort in the fact that it’s a dry heat.
Probably beats getting raped to death by alumni of the School of the Americas in Guatemala.Replies: @Hank Yobo, @Anonymous
Mugabe was also educated by American Methodist missionaries. Or so one couple told me, proudly, many years ago. They considered him to be one of their highest accomplishments after a lifetime spent in Africa.
On the global scale it's a mere irrelevance, noted only for the extremity of its inflation rate and HIV positivity.
One wonders what would have been Rhodesia's impact and trajectory on the world if it had been settled and colonized around year 1790 rather than 1890.Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Counterinsurgency, @Herzog, @PaulS
S. M. Sterling’s Draka series assumed something close to that. Take a look at it if you have a strong stomach. He assumed the society would be a blend of Caribbean slaveholder and African brutality plus with European science, engineering, and strategic planning. Watch what you wish for.
Counterinsurgency
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
Lets be honest, they’re a failed race. Completely unsuited to civilization.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
Pure Pimp Philosophy. Mugabe is what happens when the old head on the corner, drinking out of a brown paper bag and sharing his “wisdom” with anyone who’ll listen, gets to be dictator for life. There are worse fates for a nation, I suppose.
What happens when Flava Flav becomes President-for-Life. (Seriously…he LOOKS like Flav.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/21/on-his-93rd-birthday-robert-mugabe-says-of-trump-give-him-time/
yet be surrounded and inundated by technology
and material culture that is utterly alien and foreign
to you and your people.Like those clothes,
chairs,
glasses,
building,
air conditioner ...
------Yes this is a funny picture.
Imagining the back story is funny as well.I can imagine him browsing some early 2000'skitschy consumer trinket catalog and seeing a spread of photo customizedcoffee mugs, t-shirts and the like.Hastily calls his servant"Wimwam! Get me this!"-------I wonder if the people these days
who get all bent out of shape
at seeing things named after people
like Cecil Rhodes,
ever consider that if it was
still called Rhodesia,
there would surely be less misery and privation.
-------
Rhodes wanted to expand the British Empire because he believed that the Anglo-Saxon race was destined to greatness. In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the English, "I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. I contend that every acre added to our territory means the birth of more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence."Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Flip, @Oddsbodkins, @Currahee
The dream died in the Belgian mud.
Some others:
"If President Barack Obama wants me to allow marriage for same-sex couples in my country, he must come here so that I can marry him first."
"Sometimes you look back at girls you spent money on rather than send it to your mum and you realize witchcraft is real."
"Nothing makes a woman more confused than being in a relationship with a broke man who is extremely good in bed."
"If you are ugly you are ugly. Stop talking about inner beauty because we don't walk around with X-rays."
"It is every man's dream to remove a woman's pants one day, but not when it's on a clothesline."Replies: @syonredux
What would have been a worse fate for the white citizens of Rhodesia than how this turned out with Mugabe, getting tortured to death? He stole their land and destroyed their country. Zimbabwe is now a defacto colony of China for the foreseeable future.
If, as you claim, Zimbabwe is a defacto Chinese colony; then the former Rhodesia is now in good hands!
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
Mr. Mugabe and the missus were created by Africans. At least it looks that way to me.
Mugabe in his younger days was no dummy. Father Jerome O’Hea, his Jesuit mentor, said that he had “an exceptional mind”. This is not to say that he was a von Neumann (given what he did to the Zimbabwe economy, math was not his strong suit), but by African standards he was very bright. His problem was not lack of intelligence but lack of moral compass.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
I am convinced that the African diaspora however attenuated suffer from a unique combination of reverse body dysmorphia and the Dunning-Kruger affect. This would explain tiny duck and old Bob. It is hardly surprising that when a gaggle (i don’t know a better collective noun) of liberals find a simian capable of tying his own shoelaces they fall down on their hands and knees thanking God all mighty.
Maybe because in the past, people were closer to nature and agriculture; they were more aware of the trade-offs between man and nature, between man and other men.
Nowadays, we tend to think that technology will come around and make everyone happy if we just believe and say the proper prayer to the gods of social justice.
Barnard:
If, as you claim, Zimbabwe is a defacto Chinese colony; then the former Rhodesia is now in good hands!
On the global scale it's a mere irrelevance, noted only for the extremity of its inflation rate and HIV positivity.
One wonders what would have been Rhodesia's impact and trajectory on the world if it had been settled and colonized around year 1790 rather than 1890.Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Counterinsurgency, @Herzog, @PaulS
Used to be that Grace “the First Shopper” Mugabe also commanded some attention and was good for the occasional international headline. But since Grace has fallen from grace too, it’s bleak stuff only now, about food shortages, inflation, riots.
did mugabe die?
i have a question.
How many non-inherited dictators died in peace past the age of 80 with their dictatorial powers in place even after age weakened them?
very few, i think.
stalin and alexander and david didn’t make it to that age while caesar and mubarak and napoleon were taken out when their charms and powers lessened.
locals too. and the metoo cancer offers endless examples: louis ck was taken out for ancient sins when he started taking meds to calm his powers, same with spacey and weinstein and keilier, etc. when they were in their primw they were gods and laughed in the face of accusations (ck literally) but when they got old the vultures circled and started pecking…
to make yourself so powerful a god that the people continue to take orders from you even when your powers have waned is apparently really really hard.
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
And of course Mugabe, having levelled his country’s medical establishment, died receiving aid in … Singapore, a city-state which proves that not even dictatorship or totalitarianism or central planning was the issue.
The fact that this terrible person lived until 95 years old and then died a peaceful death makes me doubt the existence of a higher being in our universe…
I am happy for Zimbabwe that he is finally gone, but sadly I have a feeling his replacements will be no better…
I quibble. There’s plenty of African Africans who don’t want to burn everything down. Mugabe, like the blood-covered Mandela and every African revolutionist, was highly educated and carefully shepherded. His evil mind was the product of white leftism.
No, he was a byproduct of European imperialism, which began in earnest with the 1884-1885 Berlin Conference.
It no longer astounds me the historical ignorance of a number of posters on this fine blog, yourself included.Replies: @J.Ross
South Africa slow-moving genocide of whites.
Only ‘indigenous’ Africans welcome and now they are even killing them in last four days of riots…
Can’t make up their minds…
Anyway, to answer the spirit of the question, the current president of Zimbabwe is Emmerson Dambudzo Mnangagwa (76). His VP (and leader of the coup that brought him to power) is General Constantino Guveya Dominic Nyikadzino Chiwenga (63). They seem to follow most of the old Supremo's policies, except with new top management.Replies: @Bugg
No doubt these guys can have long, meaningful conversations about our future with future US President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. The longer the name, the lower the IQ. Never fails to see some ghetto dweller with a hyphenated name and self-esteem to match like he should be wearing an ascot and sipping tea rather than living in the PJs making a mess of things.
https://bzquotesngallery.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mugabe.jpg?w=335&h=335
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/robert-mugabe-quote-we-have-tons-of-potatoes-but-the-people-arent-pota.jpg
https://thesheet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/3770783_fbimg1464431698255_jpegd2c331f408a407775f7578cf58131b1d.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist, @TelfoedJohn, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @Corn, @Harry Baldwin, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Antonius, @BengaliCanadianDude
I don’t agree with him politically, but he was definitely a high IQ guy. I find it hard to believe he wasn’t.
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
True story–
A Jesuit and Dominican were traveling on a train through the South about 70 years ago. Another passenger asked if they were priests, and about the differences in their dress. She wasn’t aware of Jesuits and Dominicans.
“What’s the difference?”
They explained that the Jesuits were founded to combat Protestantism.
“Oh, I see. And the Dominicans?”
“We were founded to combat Albigensianism.”
“What is Albigensianism?”
“Ma’am, that is the difference!”
Mugabe, just another trashy, psycho-killer African dictator. This demon should have been offed years ago by the British. Just a few missiles fired into his palace and any collateral damage would be a bonus.
He was popular with average blacks and used to get large standing ovations from them. Mugabe was canny enough to leave him alone.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corn
Opposition leaders– black opposition leaders– used to say they wished they had someone, anyone, of his caliber. (Excuse me, calibre.) Kind of like Union men wishing for a Lee of their own.
How many wives and concubines did he have? Was he Catholic enough, like Charlemagne, to have only one wife at a time, and a dozen concubines on the side?
I posted this map on the polygamy thread, but that’s dropped off the screen by now, so here it is again. Interesting that the Philippines won’t allow Christians to divorce, but can allow Mohammedans to marry over and over. It’s probably a “just try and stop us” thing.
https://www.vividmaps.com/2015/06/the-countries-that-allow-polygamy.html
“Correct blacks are a race that has created little of value.”
That’s observably false. But, hey, if it makes you feel any better believing in a lie, go right ahead, George Castanza.
“His evil mind was the product of white leftism.”
No, he was a byproduct of European imperialism, which began in earnest with the 1884-1885 Berlin Conference.
It no longer astounds me the historical ignorance of a number of posters on this fine blog, yourself included.
Interestingly Ian Smith lived out his days in peace in Zimbabwe, Mugabe left him unmolested.
Having mentioned cricket and a Smith I hope Steve is paying attention to the latest Ashes series. Aussie Steve Smith is drawing comparisons to Sir Donald Bradman. Averaging 147 in the series he is dragging up his test career average above 63, still a way off Bradman's 99, but Bradman is no longer such an outrageous outlier.
https://youtu.be/DUxbfz3daXQ
Has a very unconventional style, almost dancing around, but unreal eyesight, reflexes and coordination.Replies: @Philip, @anonymous, @anon
Bradman scored 5,028 Test runs against England on uncovered wickets.
Smith is having a good run against a weak attack.
I guess a lot of liberals are weeping that Obama didn’t go full Mugabe and turn Amerika into a black African utopia…
(Sarcasm intended, for anyone stupid enough to think I’m sincere).
Probably beats getting raped to death by alumni of the School of the Americas in Guatemala.Replies: @Hank Yobo, @Anonymous
William Pierce commented on the role that Christian missionaries played in fomenting terrorism by convincing the blacks that they were the equals of whites in every way. Every revolutionary and terrorist leader was educated by Christian missionaries of one sort or another.
All that money and power and he’s dressed like a clown.
He was popular with average blacks and used to get large standing ovations from them. Mugabe was canny enough to leave him alone.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corn
I can’t confirm if it’s true but I heard an anecdote once:
Now former PM Smith was shopping at a large department store in Harare in the 1990s. Word spread he’s in the store and a large crowd of black townspeople gathered outside the front door. I don’t know how raw memories of the Bush War were in the ‘90s but the manager approached Smith and wished to hurry him out through a rear or side exit lest the crowd have unfriendly intentions.
Smith supposedly said, “Don’t worry, they are my people.”
He then walked out the front door and in typical politician mode started shaking hands and making small talk with a friendly crowd.
CounterinsurgencyReplies: @Corn
That trilogy wasn’t terribly plausible even by alternate history standards but was a damn good read. Would definitely recommend
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
I was a doctoral student in classics at Harvard in the 1970s. One of my fellow students was a South African who had taught ancient history at the South African version of the Open University, a correspondnce school version of university, in which Mugabe enrolled himself while in prison in Rhodesia. My friend, who had graded Mugabe’s papers, told me he was particularly interested in the life of Julius Caesar.
Not even, of course, the photo itself.Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato, @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @Realist, @Anony-chronic, @Jane Plain, @J.Ross, @Bubba
I really like those Roman numerals on his cowboy hat. No culture appropriation there.
http://libgen.is/search.php?req=ian+smith+great+betrayalReplies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Cato
How safe are downloads from libgen? Will one attract attention, or introduce malware?
It has direct download, with any of the weird stuff other sites pull. It was a godsend when I was a student ;)
No, he was a byproduct of European imperialism, which began in earnest with the 1884-1885 Berlin Conference.
It no longer astounds me the historical ignorance of a number of posters on this fine blog, yourself included.Replies: @J.Ross
Surely imperialism affected all the Africans, but not all Africans got the same tutoring and reading young Mugabe did.
Only 'indigenous' Africans welcome and now they are even killing them in last four days of riots...
Can't make up their minds...Replies: @J.Ross
They’re being perfectly consistent.
Anyway Graham Greene's 'Our man in Havana' is meant to be the most accurate portrayal of spy world. Incompetent liars and frauds.Replies: @Anonymous
Revilo Oliver made the point that the people involved, at any level, in espionage are generally people you otherwise would not want to deal with.
A lot of white conservatives call these black movements fronts for Communism but it seems to me that the brand of Socialism that blacks, in their homeland and elsewhere, are marching to is Fascism. Take the atmosphere of 1920’s Germany, replace the Fatherland with the African bush (or the urban black ghetto in America), and replace all those blond-haired blue-eyed supermen with black round faces and you have the horror we now have.
I have also said that some “reverse” eugenecists believe that it is blacks who are superior to whites with their ability to push us around… Why is it we allow ourselves to get slapped in the face again?
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
Jesuit missionaries were active in Protestant countries soon after the order’s founding, but they were active everywhere, most famously Francis Xavier in Asia. They were not founded to fight Protestantism.
Francis Xavier believed that Japanese fanaticism made them the perfect converts!
during the bush war he gained victory through terror(to quote the koran). killing inumerable blacks to frighten the population to support him. He was the main benefactor of the chinese during the bush war and used Mao like tactics. He efectively handed the chinese preeminance in Zim.
after the war he continued to terrorise killing between 20-40000 ndebele (the compeittors to the shona, his tribe) to ensure his ruel over the country.
He was temporarily bought out by the west, but when there was the vaguest threat to his rule he went onthe war with the middle class , both black and white , to ensure there was no threat to him in the country.
He leave a despoiled country and a very rich wife.Grace, the bitch from benoni, who has the mining rights to the very rich diamond fields there, and a country firmly in the chinese orbit and a country ethnicaly cleansed of whites
He will be applauded as a liberator because he is anti white as many of the wests journalsis are.
I once calculated (2000) Zims economy against its average IQ. Zim and South Africa were major positive outliers. Mugabe brought it into line.
Zim has a wonderful climate, a pleasant and friendly population, bountiful minerals but a political elite caught in their own narcisistic self indulgenceReplies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Ndebele, you say?
On the global scale it's a mere irrelevance, noted only for the extremity of its inflation rate and HIV positivity.
One wonders what would have been Rhodesia's impact and trajectory on the world if it had been settled and colonized around year 1790 rather than 1890.Replies: @Cowboy shaw, @Counterinsurgency, @Herzog, @PaulS
A more interesting question is what would have happened if Rhodesia had voted to join South Africa in 1922.
https://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/southern-rhodesia-rejects-joining-union-south-africa
I’ll join my wishes to our host’s if and only if RIP is taken to mean Race Into Perdition.
Realist,
I think some are taking it too far with that ignorant nog meme. After all there was the Real McCoy, Elijah McCoy (1844 – 1929) who was quite a useful inventor with 57 US patents. No Tesla (112 US patents), but still no lightweight in the intellectual capacities department. Being a Mc, I guess he may have had some Scottish origin, and those Scots claim they’re the greatest inventors ever, even appropriating other nation’s inventions such as the umbrella, known to the Chinese and others long before. Anyway, McCoy studied in Edinburgh where he became a certified mechanical engineer so maybe he picked up some Scottish inventiveness while over there.
Anonymous[208]:
His brother in a very disfunctional family; the father being a professional conman.
The emergence of Zimbabwe and black rule was hyped by all the culture-driving hipsters of the 70’s. Bob Marley, whose Legends album was one of only four to stay on the Billboard Catalog charts for ten consecutive years in the 90’s, not only wrote a song called Zimbabwe extolling Rhodesia’s violent overthrow, he played a concert there the day they became independent. Stevie Wonder boosted Zimbabwe too. Time would show the price of this thoughtless cheerleading for Afro-communism: the Zimbabwean average lifespan reduced by nearly half. But hey, the White Man was beaten, so yay.
The actual black Zimbabweans tried to vote Mugabe out on multiple occasions only to be beaten down by his thugs.
Crouchback:
Francis Xavier believed that Japanese fanaticism made them the perfect converts!
Leftist despots are often popular with people who don’t have to live under their rule. See also Stalin, Chavez, Castro, etc.
The actual black Zimbabweans tried to vote Mugabe out on multiple occasions only to be beaten down by his thugs.
The context of the Mugabe regime isn’t that some evil dictator magically came to power one day for no reason and ruined everything. That’s what the press would have you believe because an investigation into the matter would prove uncomfortable for their egalitarian beliefs. The real story is that an unscrupulous grievancemonger came to power and was supported by his people when he began stealing from “The Other”. They thought they’d get some, too – even if they didn’t. Ultimately, this proved ruinous. Even worse, the populace lacked the ability to see the error of their ways (so much for the wisdom of the crowd). In 2013, the inclusive powersharing arrangement that brought a measure of stability to the country ended and installed Mugabe and the ZANU-PF for an incredible seventh term. The people get the government they deserve, or so they say. This is a failure of the Zimbabwean people directly, and a failure of the philosophy of democracy itself. Societies split by demographics at the top and bottom will inevitably devolve into conflict. It did here. It’s happening in South Africa now. Same with societies throughout history, including our own. Maybe the solution is to prevent such divisions from forming in the first place. Or at least we should try ameliorating them if they already exist.
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
Any info expanding on this would be interesting and appreciated.
Smith is having a good run against a weak attack.Replies: @LondonBob
I don’t disagree, I would say that Smith is making Bradman just a little less of an outrageous outlier. The England bowling attack is very good, the batsmen are the problem.
Mugabe was a pious Catholic who was raised by an Irish Jesuit and close to Jesuits his whole life. The Jesuits of course are an order which was originally organized on military lines and founded during the Counter-Reformation to fight Protestantism.
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/11/20/the-impact-of-religion-on-robert-mugabeReplies: @guest, @El Dato, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Reg Cæsar, @lysias, @Crouchback, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Old Palo Altan
A Rhodesian priest I knew told me that Mugabe’s mother sought out and attended the traditional Latin Mass.
So she, at least, remained a real Catholic till the end of her days.
Dictator Mobutu of the Belgian Congo, who began his reign by banning Christian first names, ended it as a devout traditional Catholic, who spent much of his time and money aiding the traditional monastery of Le Barroux in the delectable Vaucluse region of southeastern France.
I think some are taking it too far with that ignorant nog meme. After all there was the Real McCoy, Elijah McCoy (1844 – 1929) who was quite a useful inventor with 57 US patents. No Tesla (112 US patents), but still no lightweight in the intellectual capacities department. Being a Mc, I guess he may have had some Scottish origin, and those Scots claim they're the greatest inventors ever, even appropriating other nation's inventions such as the umbrella, known to the Chinese and others long before. Anyway, McCoy studied in Edinburgh where he became a certified mechanical engineer so maybe he picked up some Scottish inventiveness while over there.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Elijah_McCoy.jpg/485px-Elijah_McCoy.jpgReplies: @Realist
You have listed nothing to disparage my comment: Correct blacks are a race that has created little of value.
Zimbabwe’s story is sort of like Hemingway’s answer to “how did you go bankrupt?” – Gradually at first and then all at once. For the first year’s of Mugabe’s rule, he was actually not bad and respected his initial deal to leave the white farmers alone. The first years of his rule were certainly better than say the first years of Castro’s rule.
But he was under tremendous pressure from the usual ever growing African population, who had nothing. He and his cronies also grew corrupt and greedy as they began to enjoy the trappings of power. And getting democratically elected was great the first time but the thought of leaving their comfortable offices just because the voters changed their minds was not appealing – why not stay permanently? Harvesting the “wealth” of the white farmers was too tempting a target – a fat hen right in your backyard when you are kind of hungry – who can resist? Originally the idea was to redistribute their land to the landless black masses but in practice it was redistributed to his cronies instead. In this case the wealth was mostly in the form of land and it literally turned to dust in their hands because they were incapable of farming in the modern manner. A modern farm is actually a sophisticated business requiring considerable skill and capital. In the few cases where the masses actually received some of the land, modern farms were turned back into subsistence corn patches worked by hand and with a fraction of the yield. But mostly they went to cronies who didn’t have the skills to operate an agri-business. The tractor would break and there was no one to fix it. The workforce didn’t do their jobs and there was no supervision. The usual “socialist” (kleptocratic) mess – if these people took over Alaska there would be an ice shortage. And as the people got poorer and poorer, Mugabe, egged on by his free spending former secretary/new wife, lived richer and richer. He had led the Revolution and expelled the former conquerors – he deserved to live like a Big Man.
Good question. I couldn’t make heads or tails of that site. Couldn’t figure out how to download the file, either. When I finally got to an apparent download page and hit “Get”, I got an error. Luckily, I have real time malware protection, but still feel like I should stop everything and do a scan.
“Every revolutionary and terrorist leader was educated by Christian missionaries”
That might have something to do with the fact that, by and large, only Christians bothered educating them in the first place. If you’re against that, well you’re not alone. Look up what “Boko Haram” means, etymologically. Seems like you and they have at least one thing in common.
And speaking of Boko Haram and matters related, I’m pretty sure Idi Amin wasn’t educated by Christians.
As I see it, the mistake people always make with Africa is to assume that (given how bad things are over there) they couldn’t easily have been much, much worse. I’m not saying that the Africans who were taught by Christians haven’t caused a whole lot of mischief. But pretending they’re any better than the ones — like Mugabe and Idi Amin’s father — who ultimately rejected Christian teachings, is just your own belief system poking through, and is about as scientific or rational as the precept that it is noble to turn the other cheek, but at least the Christians are willing to admit that they’re embracing absurdities with nothing more than faith to guide them.
https://www.south-africa-tours-and-travel.com/images/portrait-ndebele-woman-united-nations-ndebeletribe.jpgReplies: @PV van der Byl
Hippo, that photo is of a South African Ndebele who have distant, if any, relation to the Ndebele of Zimbabwe. The ones in Zimbabwe are the descendants of a group of South African Zulus who broke away from Shaka Zulu in 1823 and traveled several hundreds of miles to the north to become overlords of what is now Zimbabwe. That was, until Cecil Rhodes decided he wanted a country named after himself.
In other words, a king in all but name. We keep making up new names for the same old positions.
“If you are ugly, you are ugly. Don’t talk about inner beauty because we don’t walk around carrying xray machines”.
OK that is good, insightful, honest.
I thought juju was supposed to keep you young forever.
Sad but true.
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It has direct download, with any of the weird stuff other sites pull. It was a godsend when I was a student 😉
Try this one https://b-ok.org/
Millions rely on it every day and it is true to what the internet is supposed to be. Archive dot org has started to offer books as rental only — they have “wait lists” for e-books!