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From Reuters:
Africa’s population boom fuels “unstoppable” migration to Europe
Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:11pm GMT
By Tim Cocks and Edward McAllister
DAKAR/AGADEZ (Reuters) – When German Chancellor Angela Merkel toured three African nations this week for talks on curbing migration to Europe, the leader of the world’s poorest country, Niger, suggested it would take a “Marshall Plan” of massive aid to stop people coming.
Merkel politely declined the request, expressing concern about how well the aid would be spent and noting that, at a summit in Malta last year, the European Union had already earmarked 1.8 billion euros for a trust fund to train and resettle migrants.
But Niger’s President Mahatma Issoufou also proposed something perhaps more significant, in the long run, than a development package – bringing Niger’s population growth down from 3.9 percent, the highest in the world.
Though he gave no details on how this could be achieved, demography clearly holds the key both to Europe’s migration crisis and to the African poverty feeding it. As long as population growth in African countries outstrips their ability to educate, house and employ their citizens, large numbers of people will continue to brave the deserts and seas to escape.
“You can’t resolve this by just paying money,” said Owoeye Olumide, a demographer at Bowen university in southwest Nigeria, one of the world’s most densely populated regions.
“There are going to be too many people … the development you need will not be possible. You have to lower fertility rates and bring down population (by educating and empowering women).”
Niger, a vast, largely desert nation to the north of Nigeria, presents the starkest example of Africa’s challenges.
With an average of 7.6 children born to each woman, its population is projected to more than triple to 72 million by 2050, from about 20 million now, according to the latest U.N. figures.
Graph by Steve Sailer
By then, Africa will have more than doubled its population to 2.4 billion, the United Nations says.
… Ironically, Niger’s location in the largely unpoliced sands of the Sahara also makes it a draw for migrants. They come from across Africa hoping to be smuggled to a better life in Libya or Algeria — or over the Mediterranean to Europe.
In doing so, the migrants bring cash to Niger, a country that has repeatedly proved unable to feed itself. …
The International Organisation for Migration (IOM) expects migration through the Agadez region this year to reach 300,000, more than twice the 120,000 it estimates came through in 2015.
EU officials hope to deter migrants like Diallo by making clear that life as an illegal immigrant in Europe is hardly better than staying in Africa. But that message has yet to filter down. …
In 2013, Niger’s corruption investigators did a study on smuggling that was never published, but which Reuters has seen. It said Niger’s security forces make almost half a million CFA francs ($850) from every round trip by a smuggling truck — just from migrants alone, not including payoffs from the gangs.
The government did not respond to a request for comment.
“PRETTY UNSTOPPABLE”
Agadez, a desolate town of sandy streets and mud houses, is booming….
“Pretty much the whole population of Agadez now lives off providing services to migrants in transit,” said Richard Danziger, IOM regional director for West and Central Africa.
“What we can’t do right now is offer real alternatives,” he said, adding that “a mixture of development aid and job creation is the only way forward”.
Germany could pay natives in Niger to serve as border guards to migrants from the south from transiting through Niger. Giving them incentives based on falling numbers of migrants reaching Europe. Heck, Germany could be doing the same with hiring Greeks in Greece to keep out Middle Easterners.
According to a theory popular with investment bankers and management consultants, Africa’s population woes will solve themselves. Africa, they say, will reap a “demographic dividend” as its bulging youth population drives innovation and consumer markets — as happened to Asia in decades past.
Rich white men have been encouraging the African population bomb because they think it’s a way for them to get even richer.
The latest commodity crash highlighted reasons for being less optimistic: Africa remains over-dependent on raw materials and has failed to create the manufacturing or service jobs that helped drive Asia forwards.
And despite predictions, economic growth hasn’t significantly cut birth rates in most African countries.
Yet even if Africa is ‘rising’, says Renaissance Capital’s Charles Robertson, himself an optimist, migration will remain “pretty unstoppable”.
Any bright youth who chooses to stay in most African countries has a good chance of doubling his wealth over 10 years, he says, but that still presents a dilemma:
“You can stay where you are and go back to where Germany was in 1920 or you can leapfrog 90 years of development and have a better standard of living now,” he said. “That isn’t going to change for half a century.”
(Additional reporting by Andreas Rinke in Niamey, David Lewis in Nairobi and Alastair MacDonald in Brussels; Editing by Gareth Jones)
Funny thing is about Unstoppable Africans, I was looking at a map and, you wouldn’t believe it, but there’s actually a formidable natural barrier between Africa and Europe called the Mediterranean Sea. I have this crazy idea that if European navies stopped towing illegal alien boats across the Mediterranean to Europe and instead towed them back to Africa, that might make the Africans more stoppable. It’s so nuts it just might work.
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First come hate speech, next comes hate science…
Science must fall. The Left tells us only KKK White supremacist Republicans are anti-science. It doesn't seem Barack Hussein Obama's kids (all of the world's Black yoofs) are huge fans of science either.
Escorted as they are by the mighty navies of west Africa, the migrants truly are unstoppable. There is literally no way a first world nation could stop them from coming ashore, or send them back once they’re there.
Here is a stock photo of Munich in 1920. I’m gunna go out on a limb and make a bold prediction that Niger won’t reach Germany’s level of development 1920 in the next 50 years.
1620, perhaps.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Anonym, @Buffalo Joe
So, be nice and don't hate, but appreciate that Nigermany is the future of the western civilization.
(#Shiiiiiieeet , I should have used this reply to make Tiny Duck the happiest troll ever)
If Japan adopted Europe’s refugee/migrant policy on Monday, there would be 100,000,000 Chinese in Japan by Friday. Followed by Filipinos , Pakistanis and Middle Easterners.
I can see that you are exaggerating for effect, but people posting on this and similar sites don't really have much of an idea re. the govt's policies.
You also have an error of logic, Chinese and Philippinos are not automatically treated as refugees anywhere I know of.
The government has a policy, unstated, of allowing large numbers of both, including fairly large numbers of illegals at times.
Last estimate I saw for the number of Chinese, it was around two million, that was years ago, the number is certainly higher now. Interestingly, surpassing the ethnic Korean remnant population from imperial days.
Philippinas, generally, they marry farmers, divorce as soon as they have residence, then go to work in mild sleaze, or arrive to work in aged care, nursing, or get 'entertainer' visas to do mild sleaze work.
There are not so many Philippino men.
Many convenience shops have almost only Chinese counter staff. Sometimes, they barely speak the language.
Two weeks ago, I was doing a 'stamp rally' on the last remnant of the very extensive tram network (only one line left, there is another tram line, but it is new, was not part of the old network).
Two young men were collecting for the UNHCR support organisation. I said, work hard, but I will not give you one yen, UNHCR just dumps disasters on other countries, the Japanese govt. knows, accepts no fake refugees, when a Japanese bureaucrat was in charge of the UNHCR, Japan was accepting two or three refugees a year.
They had a reverential photo of said bureaucrat.
It was a more friendly conversation than that may seem, polite, and more wide-ranging, but those are the points pertinent to your comment.
Shamed by the two or three a year while boasting about being home to the High Commisioner, it is now in the twenty to thirty a year range, mainly from Burma (no Rohinga) for years, lately, mainly Nepal.
Assimilable.
Could write an essay on it, tired now.
The Effects of ‘Youth Bulge’ on Civil Conflicts
http://www.cfr.org/world/effects-youth-bulge-civil-conflicts/p13093
Interestingly, median age in the USA was about 20 years young/old in 1860, just shortly before the breakout of the Civil War:
– https://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/statbriefs/agebrief.html
Another interesting observation is, that in the 1960s the USA median age actually briefly dropped from 29.5 to 28.1 years http://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/ , to eventually rise again to 30 years by 1980. This was caused by the post World War 2 U.S. Baby Boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
In my opinion, this is the most likely explanation for what started and fueled the student/youth protests/revolts of the late 1960s and early 1970s: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-1960s
Call me crazy, but East Asians and Black Africans don’t exactly seem interchangeable…..
Call me crazy, but this popular theory of Africa solving its own population woes has been currency for at least 50 years. I was in elementary school when a couple of 'international' college students (from sub-Sahara Africa) explained it in a presentation to my class. I guess that's the African version of 'Hope n Change'!
The African Immigrants ARE unstoppable. Because stopping them would require killing some of them, sending the rest back, and Nice White Ladies wont’ have it. Hillary wants WAR with Russia because as a Nice White Lady she got all weepy about some boy in the rubble.
Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff. It means letting some drown, and sending others back while the kids cry and such.
Even Scott Adams has figured that White Women are going to hand Hillary! the Presidency.
It would take someone tough to keep Africans out. Merkel? Another Nice White Lady. The only thing they are good at is taking down their menfolk who don’t fight them.
Holly Poseidon and Merkerel, if only western nations, including our humble marital power, could have already had such thing as a big navy!
I mean you’re not only crazy but from that comment you seem pretty racist too…
You beat me to it. Modern Niger the equivalent of Germany in 1920?
1620, perhaps.
Nope. Not even.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/heidelberg-castle-germany-in-1620-a-print-from-the-worlds-history-a-picture-id463995313Replies: @Hereward, @Hippopotamusdrome
“The latest commodity crash highlighted reasons for being less optimistic: Africa remains over-dependent on raw materials and has failed to create the manufacturing or service jobs that helped drive Asia forwards.”
Perhaps some enterprising philanthropist could build some AK-47 factories in Africa, to provide those good manufacturing jobs. The service jobs (soldiering) will follow.
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
Notice how cowed the white guy in the back (the one who piped up) sounded? There was a hint of real fear in his voice. There’s going to be some real Khymer Rouge like stuff going down in South Africa before long.
http://www.cfr.org/world/effects-youth-bulge-civil-conflicts/p13093Interestingly, median age in the USA was about 20 years young/old in 1860, just shortly before the breakout of the Civil War:– https://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/statbriefs/agebrief.html
Another interesting observation is, that in the 1960s the USA median age actually briefly dropped from 29.5 to 28.1 years http://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/ , to eventually rise again to 30 years by 1980. This was caused by the post World War 2 U.S. Baby Boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
In my opinion, this is the most likely explanation for what started and fueled the student/youth protests/revolts of the late 1960s and early 1970s: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-1960sReplies: @gruff, @boogerbently, @Mokidi
Excellent post. The demographic context of conflicts is ignored far too often. And yes, the 1960s was a case of the young outnumbering the old, with the addition of new technologies. Now the old outnumber the young, in the US.
Syrian birth-rates were stratospheric in the late 20th century.
I was watching some K-pop videos the other day. They were all imitations of either white Western pop, or black Western pop. Contrariwise, I have never heard a single piece of African music that is imitative of Asian music.
Asian culture has never put a big premium on originality - why reinvent the wheel? Isn't it better to take an existing wheel and improve on it and make it your own? Japan especially, after the Meiji Restoration, adopted Western culture and inventions but almost always putting their own twist on it.
Or in the next 500 years…
This quote is almost as insane as Bill Gates saying that half of Africa would be middle class within a generation….these scam artists ignore the average IQ of 70 in subSaharan Africa
If only there were a giant, empty land where they could live!
I one were to drop leaflets saying that Europe were about to tip over, like the Af-Am congressman thought would happen to Guam, if anymore people came, would that juju work?
“This quote is almost as insane as Bill Gates saying that half of Africa would be middle class within a generation….these scam artists ignore the average IQ of 70 in subSaharan Africa”
Perhaps in a hundred years, current median-and-above African standards-of-living will be considered middle-class…………….rendering the prediction true, in a way.
‘Unstoppable African migration…’
Well. It might be easier to stop if the Occupation Government of Europe wasn’t actively aiding and abetting said migration. Last week there was a story in the news about how 10,000 Africans who had set off from Libya for Italy had been rescued in the space of just 48 hours from the Mediterranean by European governments and NGOs. At the shortest distance, Italy and Libya are about 200 miles from each other. All of these migrants were rescued within 20 miles of the Libyan coast. Rather than travel a few miles to drop them off in Libya – a shortened trip which would have enabled them back to rescuing even more Africans more rapidly – they picked them up and ferried them all the way to Europe.
As we know, it’s impossible for Western governments to secure our borders against the immigration invasion – so says the extremists retards who call themselves Democrats and liberals. They believe that the government can do absolutely any goddamned thing under the sun – except secure our borders.
With enough immigration, Germany may reach Niger’s level of development in the next 50 years.
1620, perhaps.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Anonym, @Buffalo Joe
Nope. Not even.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/heidelberg-castle-germany-in-1620-a-print-from-the-worlds-history-a-picture-id463995313
Niger Village Scenes on the road from Niamy to Agadez
Asians respond…
from Japan:
from Korea:
from China:
The fact that Japan isn’t neck-deep in Chinese is a great response to anyone trundling out “unstoppability” saws. Even in 2016 China has lower per capita wealth than Mexico with ten times the population of possible immigrants, while Japan is on par with the big European states.
It would only take a few years of firm enforcement of borders and visas to make it clear it’s a waste of time and money to try and the pull would disappear.
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
The video has these people tagged as “fallists”, as in “science must fall”. I don’t see it coming up in other Google searches, so maybe this is a coinage. Fallists…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Must_Fall
Fascinating to watch the nature of the movement they supported slowly dawn on some academics... (it looks like they will stay closed the rest of the year now). But of course anyone who told them this at the beginning still has the cooties and is not forgiven.
SA is like the world in miniature. And in Cape Town the black students are almost all post-apartheid migrants from further east.
1620, perhaps.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Anonym, @Buffalo Joe
Nah. Not exactly Germany, but try the Bordeaux Caves.
Nope. Not even.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/heidelberg-castle-germany-in-1620-a-print-from-the-worlds-history-a-picture-id463995313Replies: @Hereward, @Hippopotamusdrome
1620 B.C., maybe. The reconstructed European dwelling looks roomier.
Steve, you are ever the kindly non-sociopath. These migrant ferrying boats are free naval artillery practice.
Sooner or later the tide of public opinion will turn. I think a lot of blue collar white males would agree with my sentiments.
It’s no more ‘unstoppable’ than a few million European voters bothering to put a cross on a slip of paper, and then pushing the said slip of paper through a slot in a wooden box.
But, alas, European voters have neither the gumption or the perceptiveness to do this.
As Ron Unz points out, voters have a number of concerns other than immigration, hence fringe parties that promote tighter immigration controls will attract some support but are often considered untrustworthy on other issues such as economic management and healthcare.Replies: @Anonymous
And also, Steve, to put it at its very crudest and nastiest – Italy where most of these African ‘migrants’ wind up is a relative newcomer to the game of massive third world immigration – it only really kicked off in the 1990s when various shithead governments thought that ‘amnesties’ were trendy and ‘humanitarian’.
Therefore, there are precious few adult black Africans who were actually born on Italian soil. Of course, black Africans and Italians are very readily discernable by sight – despite the avalanche of sub-Tarantino comments which will inevitably follow.
So, if an Italian government was serious about keeping Africans out – an impossibility, I know, the task would be very simple. No need for ‘registers’ or tracking down.
The present pow-wow in Syria, complete with the knock-on destabilization of the EU, is down to demographics.
Syrian birth-rates were stratospheric in the late 20th century.
Nope. Not even.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/heidelberg-castle-germany-in-1620-a-print-from-the-worlds-history-a-picture-id463995313Replies: @Hereward, @Hippopotamusdrome
1620 BC?
Niger Village Scenes on the road from Niamy to Agadez
Indeed, Western governments boast that they can alter the earth’s temperature, but can’t stop rag-tag boats crammed with destitute Negroes from reaching European shores.
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
Average IQ of 80 right ?
A few gunboats would stop them quite easily. Are they actually considering paying them not to invade?
It would definitely be a stupid move on the part of the EU, basically invaders getting paid to invade. I doubt even those that are given some form of recompense would stay in their home countries, nor will they be deported from Europe after being paid.
They need to build camps in Libya and Turkey for a place for the EU to tow the boats back to, it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
“a mixture of development aid and job creation is the only way forward”. Really Richard Danziger, IOM regional director for West and Central Africa ? Or is that the only way forward for your career as a parasite ? Truly these do gooders are more of a plague than a thousand black apes floundering in the Med. in their shorts and flip flops .
Appears to be a recent South African coinage: http://city-press.news24.com/Voices/fallists-booze-drugs-and-self-love-20160614
Sooner or later the tide of public opinion will turn. I think a lot of blue collar white males would agree with my sentiments.Replies: @AndrewR, @Marcus
Your comment only vindicates SJW ideology. One hardly need be a bleeding heart to think that mass murder is not ok whether or not it is the easiest solution to a problem that could be bloodlessly solved with just a little bit more effort and money.
It is true that sinking the boats would be easy and would guarantee that the migrants never tried to return. But killing an infant is also very easy and guarantees that one will not have to hear its maddening cries and change its filthy diapers ever again.
Do you support killing all infants or only the ones you arbitrarily deem to be sufficiently genetically distinct from you?
You will be born again hard, mein schutze.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_CbdREID0
You know that right now, thousands of Africans are dying already, drowning in leaky boats, etc. But you are morally pure because they are not being shelled by white men - as long as they are killing each other, it's fine. The same thing with blacks in American big cities. This holier-than-thou morality is sick and twisted.Replies: @schmenz, @Anonymous
All that needs to be done is for tow-ropes to be attached to the bows of the boats, and the boats towed back to the Libyan coast.
In a similar way the clever, canny, hard-headed Thais, (a race that I like and admire), forestalled an incipient influx of incompatible Rohingya (Bangladeshi) interlopers.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous
I want our borders to look like that. And frankly, if the media is going to make it a big sob story just because it is white people protecting a border, I want them used as naval artillery practice. Enough is enough.
Mass murdering simply to save an extremely small fraction of abundant societal wealth is not something any remotely decent human would propose or condone.
It’s fascinating to see how you virtue signal your own pro-European bloodthirstiness despite the fact that the only people who would agree with your proposals are people who would not think twice about killing you based on your own racial otherness.
How many do you think need to die before the migrants stopped trying? A few hundred? A few thousand? That's not mass murder. And even if it was, the deaths can only be blamed on the people trying to enter illegally. Your position is based on egalitarian morals and makes no distinction between native majorities and outsiders.Replies: @AndrewR
Europeans have to take a harder line then they are taking now. The sad part is there really isn't much popular support for them to do any of it, so why they continue to do it is beyond me.Replies: @AndrewR
Perhaps in a hundred years, current median-and-above African standards-of-living will be considered middle-class................rendering the prediction true, in a way.Replies: @dr kill, @Neuday
African middle class will certainly not be similar to American middle class. Anyone who ever spent any time in the rest of the so – called First World knows there is no place like home. Go to Ikea. That is the rest of the so- called First World’s idea of middle class. Like the furniture sizing and quality, they are about 5/8ths American.
Americans love Ikea as much as anyone. Their stuff is not heirloom quality (to say the least) but it fills a role for college students and young people who may only live in an apt. for a couple of years, etc. I always hated old fashioned furniture shopping - even worse than car shopping because the pricing structure is totally opaque, the markups are huge and comparison shopping is impossible.
BTW, the Ikea guy was a Nazi in his youth.Replies: @dr kill
Lately Mr. Renzi, Italy’s Prime Minister announced that he is not satisfied with certain Central European countries that shirk their responsibilities toward eternal European values and do not participate in relocation of migrants. He said they need a sharp reminder, for example cutting of European Union funds.
I suppose there are certain tensions in the country Mr. Rienzi is governing. But he himself called Italians “large-hearted” people that will help as many refugees as they can. And they will force other to be as “large-hearted” as themselves.
Such is the verdict of history since the formation of the modern Italian state back in the 1860s.
In case you don't know 'marmite' - a horrible spread made from the waste yeast of brewers' vats, and supposedly an English delicacy was unilaterally jacked up in price by that nasty multinational 'Unilever' as part of profits-grab masked by brexit.Replies: @Jack D
The author has a funny name.
You mean tow them back to Africa, let the people off, then blow them up. Vox Day’s long time solution.
“Are they actually considering paying them not to invade?”
It would definitely be a stupid move on the part of the EU, basically invaders getting paid to invade. I doubt even those that are given some form of recompense would stay in their home countries, nor will they be deported from Europe after being paid.
They need to build camps in Libya and Turkey for a place for the EU to tow the boats back to, it’s certainly within the realm of possibility.
Perhaps in a hundred years, current median-and-above African standards-of-living will be considered middle-class................rendering the prediction true, in a way.Replies: @dr kill, @Neuday
Go long on the Chicken ETF.
Yes it’s the term for a series of protests starting with removing a statue last year:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Must_Fall
Fascinating to watch the nature of the movement they supported slowly dawn on some academics… (it looks like they will stay closed the rest of the year now). But of course anyone who told them this at the beginning still has the cooties and is not forgiven.
SA is like the world in miniature. And in Cape Town the black students are almost all post-apartheid migrants from further east.
So immigration is “unstoppable” yet Hillary can, with laser-like precision, confidently keep out every bad immigrant by “vetting” them?
Frauke Petry knows what to do.
Geert Wilders knows what to do.
Nigel Farage knows what to do.Etc
Etc.
Here’s a gem from that article, which is reporting that activist students are turning to alcohol and drugs to soothe the supposed stress of so much activism:
Blacks have no agency. Coming soon to the mainstream center-left.
Eko Atlantic, Lagos Nigeria: Assuming it is built, it will be nicer than where you live, possibly nicer than anywhere near where you live*. And with unlimited supplies of third world labor and a police force more than willing to … I would be willing to give up 2 of my 4 wives to live there, wouldn’t you?
http://www.ekoatlantic.com/
* Assuming you do not live in Shanghai, Dubai, Singapore and a few other recently built cities, notably outside the US + NATO. For those of you that cannot afford a flat in Lagos, Nigeria, a career in the navy can get you damn close with a flat in Bahrain.
If you're going to do the overseas--"I want to have servants!"--thing I can see SW Asia, the Pacific Islands, Latin America, even India. But even with the cheap help, I can't see choosing to live amongst the Africans. There is just more--whatever you want to call it--"crap" that you have to put up with that comes with their lack of cooperation.
(This is what you'd project from experience in America and HBD, but I've had experiences in the Bahamas and Jamaica which are confirmatory. Just less pleasant interactions overall then I've had in Latin America and Asia.)
Even a gated community in Lagos ... uh ... no thanks!
http://www.ekoatlantic.com/
* Assuming you do not live in Shanghai, Dubai, Singapore and a few other recently built cities, notably outside the US + NATO. For those of you that cannot afford a flat in Lagos, Nigeria, a career in the navy can get you damn close with a flat in Bahrain.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad
I like where I live.
Of course you do. Who wouldn't want to live near Universal Studios.
Not sure if serious.
Almost anything is justified in establishing ethnic nationalism. This goes for Europe, China, and humanity in general.
How many do you think need to die before the migrants stopped trying? A few hundred? A few thousand? That’s not mass murder. And even if it was, the deaths can only be blamed on the people trying to enter illegally. Your position is based on egalitarian morals and makes no distinction between native majorities and outsiders.
I absolutely distinguish between Euros and Afros. I don't think a single migrant boat should be allowed to reach Europe. But sinking the boats is obviously not the only way to keep them away even if it's the cheapest.
If the boats were full of armed people who shot at any naval ships who tried to tow them back across the ocean, then actual violence might be justified.
But as it stands you are advocating MASS MURDER of nonviolent people. You are a disgrace to humanity.
Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff. It means letting some drown, and sending others back while the kids cry and such.
Even Scott Adams has figured that White Women are going to hand Hillary! the Presidency.
It would take someone tough to keep Africans out. Merkel? Another Nice White Lady. The only thing they are good at is taking down their menfolk who don't fight them.Replies: @Harold, @ben tillman, @bored identity, @Buffalo Joe
Alas, to go along with the agree, disagree, lol, and troll buttons there is no shut up, Whiskey button.
You don’t even need border control. You only have to not give them welfare, jobs, housing etc.
The practice of Southeast Asian nations when confronted with ships full of refugee Rohingya trying to reach their ports was to intercept, disable the ship engine & toss them some Ramen noodles. It was only after a NYT article that some nations let a few ships make landfall.
Europeans have to take a harder line then they are taking now. The sad part is there really isn’t much popular support for them to do any of it, so why they continue to do it is beyond me.
One need not be a genius to understand that Europe's options are not limited to open borders versus mass murder.Replies: @Ed
How many do you think need to die before the migrants stopped trying? A few hundred? A few thousand? That's not mass murder. And even if it was, the deaths can only be blamed on the people trying to enter illegally. Your position is based on egalitarian morals and makes no distinction between native majorities and outsiders.Replies: @AndrewR
You’re either very dishonest or very stupid. Not that those are mutually exclusive.
I absolutely distinguish between Euros and Afros. I don’t think a single migrant boat should be allowed to reach Europe. But sinking the boats is obviously not the only way to keep them away even if it’s the cheapest.
If the boats were full of armed people who shot at any naval ships who tried to tow them back across the ocean, then actual violence might be justified.
But as it stands you are advocating MASS MURDER of nonviolent people. You are a disgrace to humanity.
Europeans have to take a harder line then they are taking now. The sad part is there really isn't much popular support for them to do any of it, so why they continue to do it is beyond me.Replies: @AndrewR
Strawman false dichotomies are a sign of a weak intellect.
One need not be a genius to understand that Europe’s options are not limited to open borders versus mass murder.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/212812/article/ekathimerini/news/germany-proposes-north-africa-centers-for-rescued-migrants
Sooner or later the tide of public opinion will turn. I think a lot of blue collar white males would agree with my sentiments.Replies: @AndrewR, @Marcus
I agree, mine the coasts, torpedo any that get through, this is the only deterrence. If Mohammedans tried this in the past they would’ve been met in force, as at Lepanto
Invaders will be met with force, this has always been the iron rule of survival in human history until the West started ignoring it due to Judeo-Christian poison.
Stop saying stuff like this. We would never have become what we are without Judeo-Christian values.
You have to lower fertility rates and bring down population (by educating and empowering women).”
If they can get all the women in Niger PhDs in women’s studies or sociology, they will have the average fertility down to below replacement level in a jiffy. The cat breeding industry will also thrive.
Musical talent is one of the few skills that is not g loaded (linked to intelligence).
Asian culture has never put a big premium on originality – why reinvent the wheel? Isn’t it better to take an existing wheel and improve on it and make it your own? Japan especially, after the Meiji Restoration, adopted Western culture and inventions but almost always putting their own twist on it.
http://www.ekoatlantic.com/
* Assuming you do not live in Shanghai, Dubai, Singapore and a few other recently built cities, notably outside the US + NATO. For those of you that cannot afford a flat in Lagos, Nigeria, a career in the navy can get you damn close with a flat in Bahrain.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad
The promotional video shows the then President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan, and Bill Clinton at the dedication ceremony. The project’s got to be solid and legit—Bill was there.
I’m no soil engineer, but that land began to be reclaimed recently, in 2009. In Singapore, where much of the business district is built on reclaimed land, the land was left fallow for 30 years before the Singaporeans built skyscrapers on it.
Goodluck, Jonathan.
Average Europeans don’t weigh 300 lbs. so they don’t need supersized chairs.
Americans love Ikea as much as anyone. Their stuff is not heirloom quality (to say the least) but it fills a role for college students and young people who may only live in an apt. for a couple of years, etc. I always hated old fashioned furniture shopping – even worse than car shopping because the pricing structure is totally opaque, the markups are huge and comparison shopping is impossible.
BTW, the Ikea guy was a Nazi in his youth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnOfpIJL0M
There’s a residential skyscraper in San Francisco that was built in a landfill area and it’s tilting over – they’re not sure how to fix it. NY got skyscrapers first because bedrock is just below the surface – in the old days they wouldn’t dare build a skyscraper unless they could anchor it to bedrock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_Park_City
But yes I am sort of amazed they are doing this in Africa, the person propelling it, it seems is Nigerian by way of Lebanon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagoury_Group
Just for that, I will make sure that you will be press-ganged into the new Einsatzgruppen.
You will be born again hard, mein schutze.
We live in a cruel world. Sometimes you have to kill some people so that even more will live. The babies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were innocent, but by killing them we saved the lives of even more innocents, not only American boys but possibly millions of Japanese as well.
You know that right now, thousands of Africans are dying already, drowning in leaky boats, etc. But you are morally pure because they are not being shelled by white men – as long as they are killing each other, it’s fine. The same thing with blacks in American big cities. This holier-than-thou morality is sick and twisted.
http://www.culturewars.com/2015/Miscamble.htmReplies: @Jack D
For all intents and purposes the potential number of Africans ready to bumrush Europe are infinite. Yes, that is the word, infinite.
That's what is at stake, and that's why the EU's appallingly bad opening moves have likely lost the game already. The Queen's gone, and Checkmate's only a few pawns away.
Back when Americans built such projects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_Park_City
But yes I am sort of amazed they are doing this in Africa, the person propelling it, it seems is Nigerian by way of Lebanon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagoury_Group
None of these immigration restriction schemes works anymore due to the bad relations caused by the various wars.
Turkish police withdrawal from Greece stalls EU migration pact
UNHCR director says aspects of deal are de facto suspended as there are no officers to oversee deportations
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/31/turkish-police-withdrawal-greece-stalls-eu-migration-pact-unhcr
Paul Theroux has written some very interesting travel books. Riding the Iron Rooster is about his railway journeys through China. Dark Star is about his return to Africa where he was a Peace Corps volunteer (or something) in the 60s. He remarks more than once in that book how all the infrastructure created by those awful colonialists, things like bridges, railroads, roads, etc., have fallen into ruins because the locals are too lazy to do even basic maintenance.
These people, like Muslims, are incompatible with Western civilization. Pick one.
Shut up is not an argument. Tell us where you disagree and why.
1. If people from Nigeria are called Nigerians, what are folks from Niger called?
2. Lol @ Prez’ name. Is that a common name in Niger or were his parents just smitten by Gandhi?
Its denizens are Nigeriens. "Nee zhair ee-ens" with the ns elided in that nasally French way.
Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff. It means letting some drown, and sending others back while the kids cry and such.
Even Scott Adams has figured that White Women are going to hand Hillary! the Presidency.
It would take someone tough to keep Africans out. Merkel? Another Nice White Lady. The only thing they are good at is taking down their menfolk who don't fight them.Replies: @Harold, @ben tillman, @bored identity, @Buffalo Joe
Actually, it means more money for Nice White Lady stuff. A low-parasite population has more money for *everything” than does a high-parasite population. Instead of taking care of non-natives, Nice White Ladies would be doing things like helping dyslexic native kids.
You know that right now, thousands of Africans are dying already, drowning in leaky boats, etc. But you are morally pure because they are not being shelled by white men - as long as they are killing each other, it's fine. The same thing with blacks in American big cities. This holier-than-thou morality is sick and twisted.Replies: @schmenz, @Anonymous
You may find this interesting:
http://www.culturewars.com/2015/Miscamble.htm
My buddy, who lives in Tuscany (that’s the North in Italy for those geographically challenged), tells me the Italian Navy goes to the Libyan coast to pick up the immigrants so they don’t have to make seaborne rescues of capsized vessels and refugees in the water. The rescues are too stressful and dangerous–better to rescues them before they get in trouble. And to top-off the insanity, the sailors get extra pay for being “in service.” So it’s a win-win for the Navy–no dangerous duty and extra pay.
Meanwhile, his one mile square town is overrun with refugees, and no one goes out after dark as it is too dangerous.
First of all Niger never had to deal with the all after WWI devastation that privileged Krauts used as an opportunity to practice build-destroy-build-and repeat model of economy.
So, be nice and don’t hate, but appreciate that Nigermany is the future of the western civilization.
(#Shiiiiiieeet , I should have used this reply to make Tiny Duck the happiest troll ever)
Yes, but they might reach the Berlin 1945 level of development.
They should call it the Leaning Tower of Frisco and turn it into an overpriced tourist trap.
When have investment bankers and management consultants ever solved any problem? Aside from the problem of their own paycheck?
Call me crazy, but this popular theory of Africa solving its own population woes has been currency for at least 50 years. I was in elementary school when a couple of ‘international’ college students (from sub-Sahara Africa) explained it in a presentation to my class. I guess that’s the African version of ‘Hope n Change’!
Perhaps some enterprising philanthropist could build some AK-47 factories in Africa, to provide those good manufacturing jobs. The service jobs (soldiering) will follow.Replies: @Forbes
Yeah, somehow Japan, Korea, Thailand, et al., solved the resource curse that befuddles Africa, with its over-dependence on raw materials…
Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff. It means letting some drown, and sending others back while the kids cry and such.
Even Scott Adams has figured that White Women are going to hand Hillary! the Presidency.
It would take someone tough to keep Africans out. Merkel? Another Nice White Lady. The only thing they are good at is taking down their menfolk who don't fight them.Replies: @Harold, @ben tillman, @bored identity, @Buffalo Joe
“….Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff….”
Holly Poseidon and Merkerel, if only western nations, including our humble marital power, could have already had such thing as a big navy!
Then there will be no 1st world nations. Equality will reign. Not within each third world nation of course, but nation to nation.
You some kind of racist or something?
If they can get all the women in Niger PhDs in women's studies or sociology, they will have the average fertility down to below replacement level in a jiffy. The cat breeding industry will also thrive.Replies: @Forbes
They educate and empower women, resulting in lower fertility rates–like the West–and then the left-liberal argument is that you need to increase immigration to replace the declining labor force with the aging of the population. A self-fulfilling prophecy.
Schist outcrops in Central Park and it is useful to have bedrock just below the surface, but I think NY got skyscrapers first is because of Manhattan land prices.
I know; I’m absolutely deplorable.
No one’s talking about sinking boats.
All that needs to be done is for tow-ropes to be attached to the bows of the boats, and the boats towed back to the Libyan coast.
In a similar way the clever, canny, hard-headed Thais, (a race that I like and admire), forestalled an incipient influx of incompatible Rohingya (Bangladeshi) interlopers.
I suppose there are certain tensions in the country Mr. Rienzi is governing. But he himself called Italians "large-hearted" people that will help as many refugees as they can. And they will force other to be as "large-hearted" as themselves.Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous
Everyone who makes a binding ‘deal’ with the Italian government soon bitterly learns to regret it.
Such is the verdict of history since the formation of the modern Italian state back in the 1860s.
I suppose there are certain tensions in the country Mr. Rienzi is governing. But he himself called Italians "large-hearted" people that will help as many refugees as they can. And they will force other to be as "large-hearted" as themselves.Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous
Brexit was the right thing to do – despite last night’s ‘Marmite’ media bullshittery onslaught.
In case you don’t know ‘marmite’ – a horrible spread made from the waste yeast of brewers’ vats, and supposedly an English delicacy was unilaterally jacked up in price by that nasty multinational ‘Unilever’ as part of profits-grab masked by brexit.
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
This sort of thing doesn’t happen on Chinese campuses.
Marine Le Pen knows what to do.
Frauke Petry knows what to do.
Geert Wilders knows what to do.
Nigel Farage knows what to do.
Etc
Etc.
http://www.ekoatlantic.com/
* Assuming you do not live in Shanghai, Dubai, Singapore and a few other recently built cities, notably outside the US + NATO. For those of you that cannot afford a flat in Lagos, Nigeria, a career in the navy can get you damn close with a flat in Bahrain.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad
Anyone who chooses to live in Lagos must be quite mad.
100,000,000 by Friday?
I can see that you are exaggerating for effect, but people posting on this and similar sites don’t really have much of an idea re. the govt’s policies.
You also have an error of logic, Chinese and Philippinos are not automatically treated as refugees anywhere I know of.
The government has a policy, unstated, of allowing large numbers of both, including fairly large numbers of illegals at times.
Last estimate I saw for the number of Chinese, it was around two million, that was years ago, the number is certainly higher now. Interestingly, surpassing the ethnic Korean remnant population from imperial days.
Philippinas, generally, they marry farmers, divorce as soon as they have residence, then go to work in mild sleaze, or arrive to work in aged care, nursing, or get ‘entertainer’ visas to do mild sleaze work.
There are not so many Philippino men.
Many convenience shops have almost only Chinese counter staff. Sometimes, they barely speak the language.
Two weeks ago, I was doing a ‘stamp rally’ on the last remnant of the very extensive tram network (only one line left, there is another tram line, but it is new, was not part of the old network).
Two young men were collecting for the UNHCR support organisation. I said, work hard, but I will not give you one yen, UNHCR just dumps disasters on other countries, the Japanese govt. knows, accepts no fake refugees, when a Japanese bureaucrat was in charge of the UNHCR, Japan was accepting two or three refugees a year.
They had a reverential photo of said bureaucrat.
It was a more friendly conversation than that may seem, polite, and more wide-ranging, but those are the points pertinent to your comment.
Shamed by the two or three a year while boasting about being home to the High Commisioner, it is now in the twenty to thirty a year range, mainly from Burma (no Rohinga) for years, lately, mainly Nepal.
Assimilable.
Could write an essay on it, tired now.
You know that right now, thousands of Africans are dying already, drowning in leaky boats, etc. But you are morally pure because they are not being shelled by white men - as long as they are killing each other, it's fine. The same thing with blacks in American big cities. This holier-than-thou morality is sick and twisted.Replies: @schmenz, @Anonymous
The salient fact is that if firmness is not shown at this stage – and all indications are that it isn’t – then, the numbers coming will only increase exponentially.
For all intents and purposes the potential number of Africans ready to bumrush Europe are infinite. Yes, that is the word, infinite.
That’s what is at stake, and that’s why the EU’s appallingly bad opening moves have likely lost the game already. The Queen’s gone, and Checkmate’s only a few pawns away.
Here’s a theoretical scenario. Europe and the U.S. suspend all aid, all medical programmes, all charity work, all the food donations for 6 months.
Altruism belongs at home. Let let them go screeching to China and the Arab “dumb-lucky” hydrocarbon parasites.
It’s time to stop distorting the planet’s natural rhythms and let Gaia reassert herself organically.
Some wisdom that the Davos crowd have never bothered to learn:
Kipling, The Gods of the Copybook Headings
AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.
We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.
We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.
With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”
On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”
Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
If I ran up to the North Korean border in view of a machine gun nest I would fully expect to be gunned down mercilessly, whether I was a man, woman or child. Furthermore I would not expect my people or anyone else to have any sympathy… the world would rightly think I was stupid. There are no doubt other borders in the world like this.
I want our borders to look like that. And frankly, if the media is going to make it a big sob story just because it is white people protecting a border, I want them used as naval artillery practice. Enough is enough.
All that needs to be done is for tow-ropes to be attached to the bows of the boats, and the boats towed back to the Libyan coast.
In a similar way the clever, canny, hard-headed Thais, (a race that I like and admire), forestalled an incipient influx of incompatible Rohingya (Bangladeshi) interlopers.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous
You have poor reading comprehension
Meanwhile, his one mile square town is overrun with refugees, and no one goes out after dark as it is too dangerous.Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
The boat people nearly all head for Northern Italy which is much more “Northern” in every sense i.e. they’re more like Swedes or Brits than Sicilians. You don’t see many Africans in Naples, because the locals there are pretty unreconstructed, but you see plenty in Verona or Venice.
I’m not up on these here modern inventions but they say automatic weapons on ships can tear up these small craft.
Fill up the Mediterranean w/ dead bodies.
P.S. I hear they work on mexicans too.
The migration is “unstoppable”, and yet it has not happened at all in Israel or the rich Arab states. Zero. And Hungary stopped it completely in a matter of months with a border fence that costs about $1mil per mile (IIRC).
The only reason it’s “unstoppable” is because the Italian navy, plus MSF and other NGOs, pick up boats almost within sight of Libya and tow them to Europe. I hope that someday patriotic Europeans start scuttling any boats that perform people smuggling, starting with NGO boats (with everyone on board ideally), and including navy boats.
Mad! Mad! Mad you say? Is living in a fabulous apartment with ocean views and a complete household staff mad!
My point is it is possible that some Africans would give up a few wives and a dozen kids to live the life.
It seems that the West is left with a lousy choice between Marshall Plan and Machete Plan.
Just like Bill and Melinda,or president Kagame, I also strongly believe that edjukation is a key issue.
No Panga Left Behind !
Americans love Ikea as much as anyone. Their stuff is not heirloom quality (to say the least) but it fills a role for college students and young people who may only live in an apt. for a couple of years, etc. I always hated old fashioned furniture shopping - even worse than car shopping because the pricing structure is totally opaque, the markups are huge and comparison shopping is impossible.
BTW, the Ikea guy was a Nazi in his youth.Replies: @dr kill
The idea of buying brand – new stuff that is crap does not appeal to me. I am about 95 kg and 180 cm and my knees don’t fit under the Ikea tables or on an Ikea futon. But knock yourself out, dude. If you want to live like a refugee, be my guest.
Joke comment of the week: EU officials hope to make it clear that life as an illegal immigrant in Europe is hardly better than life in Africa, but without the rampant disease, poverty, tainted water, primitive sanitary services, Boko Haram, vicious reptiles and carnivores and maybe poor WiFi, otherwise both continents are basically the same.
Keeping those Africans out means a big navy for the Western nations, which means less money for Nice White Lady stuff. It means letting some drown, and sending others back while the kids cry and such.
Even Scott Adams has figured that White Women are going to hand Hillary! the Presidency.
It would take someone tough to keep Africans out. Merkel? Another Nice White Lady. The only thing they are good at is taking down their menfolk who don't fight them.Replies: @Harold, @ben tillman, @bored identity, @Buffalo Joe
Wiskey, Never saw Hillary all weepy over some black child gunned down by a black thug in Chicago, or Cleveland, or Baltimore, or Buffalo, ad nauseum
Crooked Hildabeast cares way more about Black votes than Black lives. In Crooked Hildabeast's eyes the only downside to Black on Black murder is that those dead Blacks will not be able to vote for her.Replies: @celt darnell
1620, perhaps.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Anonym, @Buffalo Joe
Celt, Ah, no. Soaring cathedrals and bridges spanning great rivers existed in 1620 Germany. Mud huts and water pulled from a tainted stream, 2016 Africa.
Tainted by what specifically ?
By the way , I find your comments quite amusing .Replies: @Buffalo Joe
The last Theroux book I read (part of) involved a trip thru the American South – it was called Deep South. The basic them was that white men and capitalism were irredeemable and blacks living in run down shacks were good – very standard issue Hillary leftist type stuff. I stopped reading at some point because it was so repetitive. I had liked his other travel writing but now I wonder how much his past reporting was colored by his leftism.
Anybody who went to Africa in the 1960s had to be a do-gooder, but I think his latest trip cured him somewhat. Thanks for tip on Deep South; now I don't have to be disappointed.
One need not be a genius to understand that Europe's options are not limited to open borders versus mass murder.Replies: @Ed
Well looks like Germany is toying with taking away the magnet.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/212812/article/ekathimerini/news/germany-proposes-north-africa-centers-for-rescued-migrants
The US had this problem with Haitians taking to boats to reach the US but the Coast Guard began to intercept and take them back to Haiti so the problem abated. Now the US/UN has to keep Haiti on life support to keep Haitians in Haiti ( the US Navy sent the amphibious assault/carrier Iwo Jima to Haiti after Hurricane Matthew a few days ago when those helicopters would have been helpful a few miles South in North Carolina but Obama knows best) yet now I learn they are massing on the border in, of all places, Tijuana. Thousands of them
In case you don't know 'marmite' - a horrible spread made from the waste yeast of brewers' vats, and supposedly an English delicacy was unilaterally jacked up in price by that nasty multinational 'Unilever' as part of profits-grab masked by brexit.Replies: @Jack D
Unilever’s pretext made no sense – the fall of the pound had made imports more expensive – but Marmite is made domestically. It was just a battle of giants (Tesco vs Unilever) with the consumers trampled underfoot and Brexit was just smoke that they were blowing to fog up the battlefield.
http://www.culturewars.com/2015/Miscamble.htmReplies: @Jack D
Actually I thought it (the review) was laughable:
If you told me that “the Jews” run Wall Street or Hollywood or the Federal Reserve, I might believe you, but Notre Dame – c’mon, you gotta be kidding me.
But, alas, European voters have neither the gumption or the perceptiveness to do this.Replies: @unpc downunder
Sadly voters do not get to vote on crucial issues like immigration on an individual basis, and the serious, well-funded mainstream parties all support liberal immigration policies, along with other elite, ultra-liberal policies like free trade and financial deregulation.
As Ron Unz points out, voters have a number of concerns other than immigration, hence fringe parties that promote tighter immigration controls will attract some support but are often considered untrustworthy on other issues such as economic management and healthcare.
Just look at how Theresa May's policy stance on immigration squares with that of The Economist or the labour Party. Theresa May's popularity with British voters is running extraordinarily high.
On another note, it is more or less inevitable that a nationalist, immigration-sceptic party will achieve full political power in or other of the continental European states, in a reasonable timeframe.Replies: @Anonymous
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
“First come hate speech, next comes hate science…”
Science must fall. The Left tells us only KKK White supremacist Republicans are anti-science. It doesn’t seem Barack Hussein Obama’s kids (all of the world’s Black yoofs) are huge fans of science either.
“Wiskey, Never saw Hillary all weepy over some black child gunned down by a black thug in Chicago, or Cleveland, or Baltimore, or Buffalo, ad nauseum”
Crooked Hildabeast cares way more about Black votes than Black lives. In Crooked Hildabeast’s eyes the only downside to Black on Black murder is that those dead Blacks will not be able to vote for her.
They may as well be called the Necromancy Party.
Those dead negroes will definitely be voting for Hillary.
First come hate speech, next comes hate science...Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous, @donut, @Richard S, @Jefferson, @boogerbently
Full of those damn “hate FACTS”.
http://www.cfr.org/world/effects-youth-bulge-civil-conflicts/p13093Interestingly, median age in the USA was about 20 years young/old in 1860, just shortly before the breakout of the Civil War:– https://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/statbriefs/agebrief.html
Another interesting observation is, that in the 1960s the USA median age actually briefly dropped from 29.5 to 28.1 years http://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/ , to eventually rise again to 30 years by 1980. This was caused by the post World War 2 U.S. Baby Boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
In my opinion, this is the most likely explanation for what started and fueled the student/youth protests/revolts of the late 1960s and early 1970s: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-1960sReplies: @gruff, @boogerbently, @Mokidi
They can stay there, and rule there, or migrate here and work at McD’s.
Theroux was pretty critical of Africans in Dark Star. He had to bribe his way across more than one border, had street urchins constantly hit him up for money (sometimes with a threat of violence), and had his plane tickets, cash, and travel notes “disappear” from a safe in a good hotel, and of course nobody knew nothing.
Anybody who went to Africa in the 1960s had to be a do-gooder, but I think his latest trip cured him somewhat. Thanks for tip on Deep South; now I don’t have to be disappointed.
Tainted ?
Tainted by what specifically ?
By the way , I find your comments quite amusing .
the whole African poverty thing makes no sense.
Africa’s population isn’t exploding because of poverty.
It is exploding because they are richer than they have ever been.
Of course, they are greedy rather than satisfied as is the human condition.
But the whole poverty thing rings hollow.
Africa's population is exploding because condoms are not Kosher in the dark continent. East Asian cultural tradition is to take one's shoes off when entering a home. African cultural tradition is to never wear a condom during sexual intercourse. Condoms are a racist White male patriarchy invention and Black Africa has zero tolerance for it.Replies: @Anonym
The “unstoppable migration” COULD be stopped tomorrow if Europe just had some guts. Stop foreign aid to Africa. Let Africans suffer the consequences of their over-breeding and it will soon end.
Unstoppable? Europe still has guns doesn’t it?
All they have to do is announce they are taking no more and any invaders will be shot. After the first boat sinking by a state military and the word will get around to those back at home.
“Whiskey” has an urban dictionary definition, but it refers to some sort of distilled spirit. “Whiskeying” also has a definition, but it’s dumb and only has two upvotes. I’m sure someone here can come up with a clever and succinct definition that more in keeping with the whiskeying that we know.
Indeed! What have the Romans ever done for us?!
And speaking of the Romans….1500 years before 1620, the Romans were doing that and a whole lot more. White Privilege, I’m thinking.
Crooked Hildabeast cares way more about Black votes than Black lives. In Crooked Hildabeast's eyes the only downside to Black on Black murder is that those dead Blacks will not be able to vote for her.Replies: @celt darnell
Oh, the Democrats are the world heavy weight champions of getting out the dead vote.
They may as well be called the Necromancy Party.
Those dead negroes will definitely be voting for Hillary.
I’ve always read Paul Theroux’s books and got the impression that he was being more than a little cynical about the underdeveloped world—albeit in a sly manner, stylistically speaking.
Nevertheless, he had a big falling out with his friend V.S. Naipaul, who, of course, is unsparingly unsympathetic towards Third-World dysfunction and its concomitant excuses.
But it was a personal falling out, not ideological. Theroux then wrote a sour biographical memoir about Naipaul, Sir Vidia’s Shadow. Naipaul comes across as a thoroughly nasty little man.
There is equality only in death.
http://www.ekoatlantic.com/
* Assuming you do not live in Shanghai, Dubai, Singapore and a few other recently built cities, notably outside the US + NATO. For those of you that cannot afford a flat in Lagos, Nigeria, a career in the navy can get you damn close with a flat in Bahrain.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad
Living with West African folks is just not very pleasant.
If you’re going to do the overseas–“I want to have servants!”–thing I can see SW Asia, the Pacific Islands, Latin America, even India. But even with the cheap help, I can’t see choosing to live amongst the Africans. There is just more–whatever you want to call it–“crap” that you have to put up with that comes with their lack of cooperation.
(This is what you’d project from experience in America and HBD, but I’ve had experiences in the Bahamas and Jamaica which are confirmatory. Just less pleasant interactions overall then I’ve had in Latin America and Asia.)
Even a gated community in Lagos … uh … no thanks!
“In my opinion, this is the most likely explanation for what started and fueled the student/youth protests/revolts of the late 1960s and early 1970s: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-1960s”
Weren’t the parents of the western baby boomers also on average the youngest generation of parents (at least in a long time)? Might have had something to do with it…
“I like where I live.”
Of course you do. Who wouldn’t want to live near Universal Studios.
But the BBC – and others – did their absolute damnedest to scare the British public into believing that the marmite price hike represented a precursor of post brexit economic turmoil.
Africa's population isn't exploding because of poverty.
It is exploding because they are richer than they have ever been.
Of course, they are greedy rather than satisfied as is the human condition.
But the whole poverty thing rings hollow.Replies: @Jefferson
“Africa’s population isn’t exploding because of poverty.”
Africa’s population is exploding because condoms are not Kosher in the dark continent. East Asian cultural tradition is to take one’s shoes off when entering a home. African cultural tradition is to never wear a condom during sexual intercourse. Condoms are a racist White male patriarchy invention and Black Africa has zero tolerance for it.
Do you really honestly think that a wealthy white person -‘an obvious big fat juicy target for kidnappers, thieves, robbers, murderers, extortionists, burglars, corrupt officials, scamsters, fraudsters, dirty policemen etc etc etc – all of which Lagos has aplenty – would emerge alive after a brief sojourn in Lagos?
Even a Whitish/Off White person would racially stick out like a sore thumb in Lagos and be a big fat juicy target for Barack Hussein Obama's thug sons, let alone a blond Nordic Northern European.
As Ron Unz points out, voters have a number of concerns other than immigration, hence fringe parties that promote tighter immigration controls will attract some support but are often considered untrustworthy on other issues such as economic management and healthcare.Replies: @Anonymous
But, UKIP were the real victors of the 2015 British General Election.
Just look at how Theresa May’s policy stance on immigration squares with that of The Economist or the labour Party. Theresa May’s popularity with British voters is running extraordinarily high.
On another note, it is more or less inevitable that a nationalist, immigration-sceptic party will achieve full political power in or other of the continental European states, in a reasonable timeframe.
If you want immigration to be restricted vote Conservative.
If you want the open-door, uncontrolled mass immigration Economist-consensus status quo to persist, vote Labour.
After years of globalist, elitist, Blarite, Brownite, Cameronite Economist-might stitch-up bullshit, a real democratic choice based on real issues has emerged.
The log-jam - in this case more of the blocked toilet variety - has finally been shifted, thanks to the UKIP boning rods.
All that needs to be done is for tow-ropes to be attached to the bows of the boats, and the boats towed back to the Libyan coast.
In a similar way the clever, canny, hard-headed Thais, (a race that I like and admire), forestalled an incipient influx of incompatible Rohingya (Bangladeshi) interlopers.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous
Towing the boats back would be a maybe 80% effective solution because some boats would still make it. The only way to send a loud and clear message is to sink boats that cross into EU territory and not both to mount a rescue.
Africa's population is exploding because condoms are not Kosher in the dark continent. East Asian cultural tradition is to take one's shoes off when entering a home. African cultural tradition is to never wear a condom during sexual intercourse. Condoms are a racist White male patriarchy invention and Black Africa has zero tolerance for it.Replies: @Anonym
Taking off shoes before entering a home just makes sense, East Asian or otherwise. The amount of dirt prevented from being tracked in is immense, not to mention animal faeces. Saves carpets and carpet cleaning. What’s not to like?
Detaining and repatriating, forthwith, those who do evade apprehension at sea, should clear that trivial problem up nicely.
Just look at how Theresa May's policy stance on immigration squares with that of The Economist or the labour Party. Theresa May's popularity with British voters is running extraordinarily high.
On another note, it is more or less inevitable that a nationalist, immigration-sceptic party will achieve full political power in or other of the continental European states, in a reasonable timeframe.Replies: @Anonymous
At last, the British electorate has a clear political choice to distinguish between in the 2020 General Election.
If you want immigration to be restricted vote Conservative.
If you want the open-door, uncontrolled mass immigration Economist-consensus status quo to persist, vote Labour.
After years of globalist, elitist, Blarite, Brownite, Cameronite Economist-might stitch-up bullshit, a real democratic choice based on real issues has emerged.
The log-jam – in this case more of the blocked toilet variety – has finally been shifted, thanks to the UKIP boning rods.
“Do you really honestly think that a wealthy white person -’an obvious big fat juicy target for kidnappers, thieves, robbers, murderers, extortionists, burglars, corrupt officials, scamsters, fraudsters, dirty policemen etc etc etc – all of which Lagos has aplenty – would emerge alive after a brief sojourn in Lagos?”
Even a Whitish/Off White person would racially stick out like a sore thumb in Lagos and be a big fat juicy target for Barack Hussein Obama’s thug sons, let alone a blond Nordic Northern European.
Mike Pence doesn’t read his Bible
Indiana governor, now US vice presidential candidate, Mike Pence, ordered all agencies in the state of Indiana, last November, to stop any assistance to non-profits in resettling Syrian refugees in the state.
One would find it strange that such an avowed Christian as Mike Pence would not show compassion towards immigrants from a war-torn country. The lives of Syrians have been torn asunder, their children maimed, their livelihoods smashed and their futures destroyed. I would think that Christians everywhere would fall over each other to show the love of Jesus Christ to people with so little hope and in such an impoverished condition.
Doesn’t Mike Pence want opportunities to display his Christian love? What does the Jesus’ great commission to preach the gospel to the entire world mean to Mike Pence? It might mean to him, to send someone there, but don’t have them come to my neighborhood.
If Mike Pence would read his Bible to find God’s will before he, Mike Pence, decided to define Christianity in his terms, he would find God’s commandments which govern our relationship with immigrants and those in need. The following, Mike Pence, are a few suggestions of verses pertinent to immigrants which you should read before denying them entrance to America. The verses which follow will show you the sinfulness of your ways. They will show you how little you know of the Bible which you claim, or maybe you don’t, to be your guiding light.
The law given to Moses in Exodus 23:9 and Exodus 22:21 says, “Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him…”
Another command found in Leviticus 19:33 and Leviticus 24:22 is “You are to have the same law for the alien as the native born.”
In Psalm 146:9, King David, a political leader like you Mike Pence, says “The Lord watches over the alien and sustains the fatherless and the widow.”
And Mike Pence, a real tough one for you is Deuteronomy 14:28 and 29 which says “…bring all your tithes… (kind of like taxes) so that the Levites and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the works of your hands.”
So Mike Pence, when you prohibited your state agencies from helping Syrian aliens in America, you violated God’s commands. Read a little further in your copy of the Bible, say the book of Isaiah, and you will find your punishment for violating God’s commands in regards to aliens and the poor. It is not pretty. Given your political leadership, you are not seeking God’s blessing. What is Mike Pence seeking?
Mike Pence and others like him have hijacked Christianity for their own conservative cultural purposes. The have selfishly pushed their political and social agenda and placed a Christian label on it, so the rest of us will believe their position has a divine calling. Well, Mike Pence your position doesn’t have a divine calling. It is selfish, self-serving and filled with hate. It violates God’s command to love.
And Mike Pence, your attempt to override federal immigration laws is also unconstitutional. The American Constitution gives power over immigration to Congress and the President. The states have no such power to administer immigration and naturalization. So don’t pull the old conservative trick on me that you are being true to the constitution. You have violated it also.
But Mike Pence, go read your Bible before you declare your Christianity. You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
The Christian Prophet.
a) Is he doing that? Where does federal immigration law require the states to provide such services to people who are not citizens of the United States under the 14th Amendment? Refusal to provide state level services is not equivalent to setting up border controls.
b) The ship has long sailed on the constitutional questions about federal immigration laws, both by the president's unconstitutional failure to enforce them, and indeed more unconstitutional decision to actively instruct agencies not to enforce them, and further by taking no action against 'sanctuary cities' practicing unconstitutional nullification doctrine.
I'll leave Christianity to others, save to note that God originally spoke to the Israelites, who had left Canaan a few small families, voluntarily and in search of a better life they found for a long time, then decided [under admittedly understandable circumstances] to return centuries later by mass illegal immigration as a whole nation, under arms and with force in mind.
Tainted by what specifically ?
By the way , I find your comments quite amusing .Replies: @Buffalo Joe
anon, Certainly you know that the Colonial powers polluted all of the continent, at least, that’s the current narrative.
Kyle, Sorry I don’t know how to link, but your comment…”What have the Romans ever done for us?” ….comedy gold from Monty Python’s the “Life of Brian.” Please look it up and enjoy a comedy treasure. Thanks for the reply.
This modern day African diaspora makes me reflect on the tragedy that befell all the Africans that were brought to America (USA) as slaves, but given the opportunity to return to the new African country of Liberia, few accepted. Today Africans can’t get enough of any white country. We should never have given them a taste of civilization.
So why are you holding third world nations to a different standard than other nations?
You some kind of racist or something?
http://www.cfr.org/world/effects-youth-bulge-civil-conflicts/p13093Interestingly, median age in the USA was about 20 years young/old in 1860, just shortly before the breakout of the Civil War:– https://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/statbriefs/agebrief.html
Another interesting observation is, that in the 1960s the USA median age actually briefly dropped from 29.5 to 28.1 years http://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/ , to eventually rise again to 30 years by 1980. This was caused by the post World War 2 U.S. Baby Boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
In my opinion, this is the most likely explanation for what started and fueled the student/youth protests/revolts of the late 1960s and early 1970s: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-1960sReplies: @gruff, @boogerbently, @Mokidi
There are now more Syrian refugees than there were Syrians in 1950.
Judeo-Christian poison
Stop saying stuff like this. We would never have become what we are without Judeo-Christian values.
2. Lol @ Prez' name. Is that a common name in Niger or were his parents just smitten by Gandhi?Replies: @random observer
Niger was a French colony and its name is pronounced en francais as “nee zhair”.
Its denizens are Nigeriens. “Nee zhair ee-ens” with the ns elided in that nasally French way.
Indiana governor, now US vice presidential candidate, Mike Pence, ordered all agencies in the state of Indiana, last November, to stop any assistance to non-profits in resettling Syrian refugees in the state.
One would find it strange that such an avowed Christian as Mike Pence would not show compassion towards immigrants from a war-torn country. The lives of Syrians have been torn asunder, their children maimed, their livelihoods smashed and their futures destroyed. I would think that Christians everywhere would fall over each other to show the love of Jesus Christ to people with so little hope and in such an impoverished condition.
Doesn’t Mike Pence want opportunities to display his Christian love? What does the Jesus’ great commission to preach the gospel to the entire world mean to Mike Pence? It might mean to him, to send someone there, but don’t have them come to my neighborhood.
If Mike Pence would read his Bible to find God’s will before he, Mike Pence, decided to define Christianity in his terms, he would find God’s commandments which govern our relationship with immigrants and those in need. The following, Mike Pence, are a few suggestions of verses pertinent to immigrants which you should read before denying them entrance to America. The verses which follow will show you the sinfulness of your ways. They will show you how little you know of the Bible which you claim, or maybe you don’t, to be your guiding light.
The law given to Moses in Exodus 23:9 and Exodus 22:21 says, “Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him…”
Another command found in Leviticus 19:33 and Leviticus 24:22 is “You are to have the same law for the alien as the native born.”
In Psalm 146:9, King David, a political leader like you Mike Pence, says “The Lord watches over the alien and sustains the fatherless and the widow.”
And Mike Pence, a real tough one for you is Deuteronomy 14:28 and 29 which says “…bring all your tithes… (kind of like taxes) so that the Levites and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the works of your hands.”
So Mike Pence, when you prohibited your state agencies from helping Syrian aliens in America, you violated God’s commands. Read a little further in your copy of the Bible, say the book of Isaiah, and you will find your punishment for violating God’s commands in regards to aliens and the poor. It is not pretty. Given your political leadership, you are not seeking God’s blessing. What is Mike Pence seeking?
Mike Pence and others like him have hijacked Christianity for their own conservative cultural purposes. The have selfishly pushed their political and social agenda and placed a Christian label on it, so the rest of us will believe their position has a divine calling. Well, Mike Pence your position doesn’t have a divine calling. It is selfish, self-serving and filled with hate. It violates God’s command to love.
And Mike Pence, your attempt to override federal immigration laws is also unconstitutional. The American Constitution gives power over immigration to Congress and the President. The states have no such power to administer immigration and naturalization. So don’t pull the old conservative trick on me that you are being true to the constitution. You have violated it also.
But Mike Pence, go read your Bible before you declare your Christianity. You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
The Christian Prophet.Replies: @random observer
“And Mike Pence, your attempt to override federal immigration laws is also unconstitutional. The American Constitution gives power over immigration to Congress and the President. The states have no such power to administer immigration and naturalization.”
a) Is he doing that? Where does federal immigration law require the states to provide such services to people who are not citizens of the United States under the 14th Amendment? Refusal to provide state level services is not equivalent to setting up border controls.
b) The ship has long sailed on the constitutional questions about federal immigration laws, both by the president’s unconstitutional failure to enforce them, and indeed more unconstitutional decision to actively instruct agencies not to enforce them, and further by taking no action against ‘sanctuary cities’ practicing unconstitutional nullification doctrine.
I’ll leave Christianity to others, save to note that God originally spoke to the Israelites, who had left Canaan a few small families, voluntarily and in search of a better life they found for a long time, then decided [under admittedly understandable circumstances] to return centuries later by mass illegal immigration as a whole nation, under arms and with force in mind.
That was indeed the intended reference.