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From the Cornell U. Daily Sun:

Curtains Close on The Vagina Monologues
By Sophie Arzumanov

The student actors of the play The Vagina Monologues unknowingly took their final bows last winter. The past sponsor of the popular show, the Women’s Resource Center, has announced that due to recent changes in its mission statement — the group was rebranded the Gender Justice Advocacy Coalition this year — it will no longer support the play.

The show is a collection of interviews-turned-narratives from people of all ages and backgrounds about their relationships and experiences with their vaginas.

“The limitations of the script, namely that it equates having a vagina with female identity, and the requirement by Eve Ensler that it remain unchanged, leaves us with an incomplete play that doesn’t honor the experiences of trans, non-binary and gender non-conforming people. It is thus hurtful, harmful and exclusionary to folks with these identities,” said Shura Gat, interim director of the Women’s Resource Center and advisor to GJAC.

… The episodic play has been performed annually for the past 21 years by a large student cast in Bailey Hall. …

Aboaf talked further about the impact that the monologues have on the Cornell community.

“There are lots of people on this campus who are uncomfortable with their vaginas, gender identity aside. It’s still beneficial to people,“ she said. …

Lakhani also noted that in her forward for last February’s play, “we specifically mentioned that this play is inclusive of people who have vaginas, who don’t have vaginas, of people of all sexualities and genders.”

“My entire message was about inclusivity. If you don’t have a vagina, you’re still a part of this play,” said Lakhani.

Inclusivity concerns regarding The Vagina Monologues are not new to college campuses. Whitman College, Mount Holyoke, American University, Southwestern University and Washington University in St. Louis have all either rebranded or banned the play outright since 2015. For instance, Washington University has rebranded it as The [Blank] Monologues to be inclusive of all genitals, while the three other schools completely canceled it.

 
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  1. Another thing, stolen from women, by men. Sorta like golf scholarships. And other stuff. When are they going to fight back? They don’t make feminists like they used to, I guess.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @SFG
    , @Mike Zwick
    , @Abe
  2. They won’t rest till they’ve erased women completely.

  3. Jack D says:

    For instance, Washington University has rebranded it as The [Blank] Monologues to be inclusive of all genitals, while the three other schools completely canceled it.

    That’s a lie. They have no intention of being inclusive of heterosexual male genitals. The rebranding is just so that chicks with dicks don’t feel left out.

    I love it when Leftists get attacked by EVEN MORE Leftists. They are so focused on evil whitemales that they never see those attacks from the left coming and they are helpless when they happen because of the “no enemies on the left” rule. They just fold like a cheap suit.

    If you are ever in a situation where you have to argue with Leftist, don’t counter with right wing stuff – always attack him (or her) for not being Leftist enough, no matter how far Left he is.

  4. Lakhani also noted that in her forward for last February’s play

    Foreword, zem!

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  5. Curtains Close on The Vagina Monologues

    Shouldn’t it be “Labia Close on the Vagina” monologues? Don’t whim me, please, I’m just sayin…

    Now TOT, but I wanted to mention this: A regularly-played, recorded announcement at the Atlanta Hartsfield airport terminal about some place US servicemen can hang out, sounds very much like it’s Jared Taylor. No, he doesn’t say “hu-white” or anything, but he has that same very mellow, kind of happy tone, and the same very good annunciation.

    I very much doubt Mayor Lancebottom or the elders of the Atlanta Airport Commission would pick Jared Taylor for this task, but I ask anyone who has gone through there lately to listen up closely and report back. It’s uncanny, man.

  6. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:

    I see the feminists want men calling the shots after all.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  7. I’m sorry, Steve, but this is like a big softball being lobbed across the plate. Is Sophie Arzumanov actually a straight man, no, I mean in the Bud Abbott of Abbott & Costello sense?

    “There are lots of people on this campus who are uncomfortable with their vaginas, …

    Yes, but it’s usually only for a few days at a time.

    … gender identity aside. It’s still beneficial to people,“ she said. …

    Indeed they are beneficial to many people. Otherwise, most men wouldn’t spend so much money buying women dinner …

    .

    Also, who’s on 1st, I dunno is on 2nd …

    • LOL: ic1000
  8. @Achmed E. Newman

    Does the airport voice mention “white courtesy” phones?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  9. Dumbo says:

    Some things are impossible to parody.

    I am beginning to think that higher education may cause some kind of brain disease. It’s not possible that anyone normal can seriously have this type of discussion.

    But it’s kind of funny that this vulgar 90s feminism identifying women with their vaginas, is now being replaced by saying that not all women have vaginas. LOL.

    Even if I tried, I couldn’t think of a better way of destroying feminism than transgender activism, which really is about men posing as women and crushing women in any endeavour they try.

  10. @Jack D

    The left is not called the circular firing squad for no reason.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  11. MEH 0910 says:


    [MORE]

  12. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jack D

    and they are helpless when they happen because of the “no enemies on the left” rule.

    There has never been a “no enemies on the left” rule. If you doubt me, ask Bernie Sanders. Or ask Jeremy Corbyn.

  13. Shura Gat, Nikita Lakhani, Callie Aboaf… Doesn’t sound like Big Red’s Class of 1920, does it?

    Shura Gat

    I have been studying energy healing modalities for more than 15 years and am a Certified Practitioner of Eden Energy Medicine and a graduate of the IM School of Healing Arts. My practice is informed by my studies of Yan Xin Qigong, hatha yoga, Reiki and Healing Touch. I gratefully draw on the wisdom of these traditions and on my own intuition to help bring client’s energies into balance.

    http://www.shuraenergyarts.com/shura.html

    Cultural appropriation! The younger two have pleasant smiles and interests in Asia. Nikita:

    Callie:

    Aboaf is a Sephardic name. Callie has written for the Carter Center, and may have a future ahead of her.

    However, Aboaf notes that one of the monologues, “They Beat the Girl Out of My Boy…Or So They Tried,” addresses issues of trans violence. “They assigned me a sex / The day I was born. / It’s as random as being adopted / or being assigned a hotel room on the 30th floor.”

    Actually, it’s the 27th floor. They left out the 17th for the Italians, the 13th for the Anglo-Saxons, and the 4th for the Chinese. The 41-story 666 Fifth Avenue should skip the 39th for the benefit of any Afghans.

    • Agree: Nachum
  14. Dan Hayes says:

    So it looks like Notre Dame University’s adopting the Monologues in its futile quest for relevance was all for naught. How Nice!

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Reg Cæsar
  15. Arzumanov
    Shura Gat
    Aboaf
    Lakhani

    I feel like I’m reading some obscure Eurasian text from the eighth century or something.

    • Agree: Neoconned
    • LOL: Nachum
    • Replies: @Neoconned
  16. @Achmed E. Newman

    he has that same very mellow, kind of happy tone, and the same very good annunciation.

    So Luke 1:26 was really referring to Jared Taylor! Who knew?

  17. @Dan Hayes

    It was standing room only at the nation’s finest seminaries twenty years ago. You could see the corruption happening with breathtaking rapidity and breadth.

    • Agree: cronkitsche
  18. @Jack D

    That’s the exact br’er patch they were wanting to be thrown in all along.

  19. @International Jew

    Haha, “please pick up the hu-white courtesy phone…”

  20. @MEH 0910

    A “debate” between Titania and Ann Coulter would be a real draw on college campuses: all the gals with problematic eyeglasses can turn out to see blonde, leggy, right-wing Ann get her comeuppance — at the claws of Titania McGrath, the greatest performative performance artist since Karen Finley (just do a search for her name and “yams”; never mind why, just do it).

  21. For years, I’ve been wanting to produce my own crudely written play, The Vagina Dialogs, with a bunch of coeds, but the prudes at my local college won’t play ball. This is cancel culture at its worst.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  22. duncsbaby says:
    @Jack D

    “The rebranding is just so that chicks with dicks don’t feel left out.”

    My ole pa used to tell me, “Son, just remember, that ain’t a chick with a dick, that’s a dude with tits.”

  23. duncsbaby says:
    @Anon

    OT: A variation on the Flight from White theme… the Flight from WASP.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/alec-baldwins-wife-hilaria-baldwin-has-been-posing-as-a-spanish-person-for-years

    So, that’s a big NO to Alec getting some of Kim Basinger’s frozen eggs in the divorce settlement theory I proposed the other day?

  24. jon says:

    Now I wish I had finally finished that ‘Prostate Monologues’ so it, too, could get cancelled.

  25. MEH 0910 says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  26. jon says:
    @Dumbo

    Even if I tried, I couldn’t think of a better way of destroying feminism than transgender activism, which really is about men posing as women and crushing women in any endeavour they try.

    It really is amazing. A bunch of mentally unstable dudes are rolling through, with their male aggression and dominance very much intact, and taking over.

  27. Kyle says:

    Coming in January 2021: The Penis Proclamations.

    • Thanks: Kyle
  28. We’re in the end stage of Weimar.

    • Agree: JMcG, Abe
    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    , @Ragno
  29. @MEH 0910

    Thanks. I hadn’t seen that, but it makes sense.

    Wouldn’t you pay to see the spectacle of Titania McGrath, mouthing the perfect storm of “well, I never!” and “that’s just your white privilege talking!” and Ann calmly responding, like some distaff James J. Kilpatrick, “horsefeathers, Titania”? I know I would.

  30. Mr. Anon says:

    The Revolution Vagina always eats its own.

    And the feminists are just gonna take this lying down? Bunch of pussies.

  31. MEH 0910 says:
    @Daniel Williams

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbox_(1977_film)

    Chatterbox (addressed in the opening credits as Chatterbox!; also known as Virginia the Talking Vagina) is a 1977 American comedy film[1] about a woman with a talking vagina. The film stars Candice Rialson as a hairdresser who discovers her vagina has the power of speech after it derisively comments on a lover’s performance. Her talking vagina has a mind of its own, which includes a desire to sing; they wind up exploited by her psychiatrist, who launches her on a career in show business.


    [MORE]

    Chatterbox! (1977) – Trailer

  32. I am starting work on a play, The Dick Debate. It will expand on the well known fact that some womym have a penis and some men have a vagina.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  33. @Dan Hayes

    So it looks like Notre Dame University’s adopting the Monologues in its futile quest for relevance was all for naught. How Nice!

    Future Mayor Unpronounceable wouldn’t have been interested. Even had he been old enough to attend.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  34. JimB says:
    @MEH 0910

    Hey, I recognize one of Oscar Madison’s poker buddies and the genie from Sigmund and the Sea Monster on the film poster.

  35. Altai says:

    Cornell:

    Arzumanov…
    said Shura Gat…
    Aboaf talked further…
    Lakhani also noted that in her forward…

    Somebody needs to get gene therapy that fixes aquiline noses and frizzy hair stat, think what the situation will be in 20 years.

  36. Hhsiii says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    I haven’t heard Finley’s name in years. Blast from the past. Yams. Chocolate pudding. So ‘80s.

    • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    , @Alfa158
  37. @MEH 0910

    Stole the title from a track on the New York Dolls’ second album (Too Much, Too Soon; 1974).

  38. black sea says:
    @Jack D

    Ensler must be richer than Croesus off of the royalties.

    Please, she now goes by “V,” or perhaps, the artist formerly known as Eve Ensler.

    Not kidding.

  39. @Daniel Williams

    Tell them it’s all about “facilitating empowerment.” Just don’t tell them whose empowerment you’re facilitating.

    Like they said in The Music Man, “you gotta know the territory.”

  40. Yet another pinnacle of Western Civilization, to be lost to the ages.

  41. Speaking of bodily depths, Bill Clinton was quite the explorer. Al Gore may have invented the Internet, but Bubba invented the trireme:

  42. [Co-director of the 2019 production Nikita Lakhani ’19] was quoted in earlier edition of the Cornell Daily Sun, in an article titled “What Would You Add to the “161 Things Every Cornellian Should Do” List?”

    Sticking out from the several pleasant, college-y, recommendations by other undergraduates is Ms. Lakhani’s unpleasant and attitudinal suggestion.

    Jason Gallant: Accidentally send a printing job to Sibley and watch your essay get printed on laminated card stock

    Nikita lakhani: Stick your hand in a fistulated cow

    C. Sussman: Attend Ithaca Wizarding Weekend in the Commons! It’s unique to Ithaca and everyone loves Harry Potter

    She must be a veterinary school student.

  43. @Reg Cæsar

  44. Anonymous[625] • Disclaimer says:

    The ill wind of Woke culture has finally blown some good, I had almost given up hope.

  45. @Dumbo

    But it’s kind of funny that this vulgar 90s feminism identifying women with their vaginas, is now being replaced by saying that not all women have vaginas. LOL.

    Agreed.

    Like every–straight–guy i know, i have a natural appreciation of femininity and a natural appreciation for vaginas and the pleasures to be had therein. But this crude blab, blab, blab–glad i missed it–is just tedious and stupid. (Guys don’t need–or want–to have penis monologues where he have to blab, blab, blab about our relationship with our penis. For young men, “it tells me what to do and i do it” pretty much covers it.)

    The complementarity of the sexes is natural, pleasant and pleasing. Sex is pleasurable and powerful. And when it binds young men and women together in marriage, to produce children and raise our next generation it is truly beautiful thing.

    Feminists seem to have a knack for taking the beautiful and making it ugly or just tedious. Good riddance to this part of their uglification project.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, 3g4me
    • Replies: @Kylie
    , @Dissident
  46. Kronos says:
    @Jim Christian

    They don’t make feminists like they used to, I guess.

    Remember, feminism never positively correlated (quite the opposite actually) with high birth rates. They’re actually dying out and have to rely on fat low-ability women of color ethno-nationalists to bolster their numbers.

    Actually, transgenderism fulfills the final secret wish of hardcore feminism. That some women wished they were men. Transgenderism allows them to be so.

  47. The utter ease with which feminists are rolled, just serves to underline the point:

    Feminism was never about what’s good for women. It was an attempt by minoritarians to minoritarianism women and use them as a weapon against the majority. Get them to defect from their fathers and husbands–their people–and recruit them as foot soldiers for the minoritarian super-state. (The super-state replaces the husband.)

    When it’s women vs. minoritarianism … not much of a contest. The feminists comply. Minoritarianism uber alles.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @FozzieT
  48. Kronos says:
    @ScarletNumber

    The left is not called the circular firing squad for no reason.

    A few years ago on VoxDay’s recommendation I went ahead and read Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” book and was impressed. Goldberg made a great case that fascism was actually a strong left-wing movement and not a right-wing movement at all. That fascism was only to the right of communism like how Stalin was to the right of Trotsky.

    At this point they’re bundled dynamite sticks. If one blows up, the whole “fasces of dynamite sticks” will blow up.

    • Replies: @Inselaffen
    , @Dissident
  49. BB753 says:

    Not so fast! Loony liberals are going to adapt the play to make non-binary genitals speak, which will turn out to be even grosser. Do you want to listen to what a dick turned fake vagina has to tell you? Neither do I!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  50. JackOH says:

    What da fuck!

    I once wrote a brief essay submitted for local publication (but not published) commenting on a local amateur production of The Vagina Monologues. If I recall correctly my own writing, I sort of ridiculed the idea that good sexual congress is the summum bonum of human experience.

    But, of course, bias alert. The women I loved didn’t want me. Those who wanted me were not satisfactory at multiple levels. The best sex I had was with a Black prostitute. Okay, I’ve come clean. I’m a flawed man. So, sue me.

    • Troll: Dan Hayes
  51. @Reg Cæsar

    “An Age of Exploration…some 2,000 years earlier…the peoples of the Mediterranean…founded colonies as far west as SPAIN!”

    “Take that Eurocentrists! Explorers from the African civilization of Carthage discovered…uh…Europe!”

  52. Irony. Funny. Really – bit of a rib tickler.

  53. @Achmed E. Newman

    “Curtains Close on The Vagina Monologues”:

    It was too expensive to keep matching drapes in stock.

    • Replies: @anon
  54. For instance, Washington University has rebranded it as The [Blank] Monologues to be inclusive of all genitals, while the three other schools completely canceled it.

  55. The Yoni Yammer is silenced. Too bad. It was the world’s longest and loudest queef.

    Feminists were never very interested in men’s opinions of womens’ vaginas, despite the fact that we study them carefully and cherish our opportunities to be near them (vaginas, I mean).

    Navel-gazing has come a long way – I am wondering if gay men will learn something here and do some anatomical spelunking show-n-tell of their own. I sort of hope not.

  56. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    Even if I tried, I couldn’t think of a better way of destroying feminism than transgender activism, which really is about men posing as women and crushing women in any endeavour they try.

    Yep. It’s misogyny on a scale that is almost impossible to conceive of.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  57. Escher says:

    This article is more than a year old.

  58. Kronos says:
    @Jack D

    They did one at my college on multiple occasions. (Never went though, worst place to find vagina if know what I’m sayin.)

    • Replies: @SFG
  59. Kronos says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    With a badonkadonk like that I’m surprised Hillary didn’t do better with the black vote. Would that booty have fallen under cultural solidarity or cultural appropriation?

  60. Good Lawd, I’ve overlooked this ….

    “There are lots of people on this campus who are uncomfortable with their vaginas, gender identity aside. It’s still beneficial to people,“ she said. …

  61. A recruitment drive by the Boy Scouts of America is proving “highly damaging” to the Girl Scouts, lawyers acting for the latter organisation say.

    The “infringement” meant many parents mistakenly signed their daughters up for Boy Scouts, thinking it was Girl Scouts, lawyers said.

    In response, the Boy Scouts accused the Girl Scouts of starting a “ground war”.

    The Boy Scouts dropped the word “boy” from its recruitment programme, and opened up to female members, in 2018.

    It said at the time that it was renaming the Boy Scouts programme Scouts BSA as it prepared to allow girls to join.

    But the Girl Scouts said the change would erode their brand, calling the move “uniquely damaging” to them, filing an initial lawsuit in November 2018 against trademark infringement.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55460888

    Ideology is ideology, but business is business.

  62. @Jack D

    If you are ever in a situation where you have to argue with Leftist, don’t counter with right wing stuff – always attack him (or her) for not being Leftist enough, no matter how far Left he is.

    From The Journal of a Tour to the Hebrides with Samuel Johnson, by James Boswell (with elisions by me):

    JOHNSON. ‘….There is as much charity in helping a man down-hill, as in helping him up-hill.’

    BOSWELL. ‘I don’t think there is as much charity.’

    JOHNSON. ‘Yes, sir, if his tendency be downwards. Till he is at the bottom, he flounders; get him once there, and he is quiet. Swift tells … of encouraging a man in absurdity, instead of endeavouring to extricate him.’

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Neuday
    , @Cato
  63. @Kronos

    Some scamp did some photoshopping on it. It may be what it looks like now, but not what it looked like then.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  64. tyrone says:
    @Anon

    Yes, because we all know the spanish never committed any historical crimes….oh wait!

  65. Nachum says:
    @Jack D

    250 million bucks, apparently.

  66. There are lots of people on this campus who are uncomfortable with their vaginas, gender identity aside.

    I’m reminded of the old joke where a young boy and young girl are playing doctor (this was before the days when they would be branded as 9 y-o sex offenders), and the young boy says,”Look what I’ve got that you don’t,” and the young girl says, “But I’ve got one of these, and with one of these I can get as many of those as I want.”

    • LOL: Kronos
  67. Mike Tre says:

    Who knew transsexuals would be the most powerful influence on the return of the patriarchy?

  68. Cortes says:
    @MEH 0910

    Talking vaginas speak the crack in Ireland.

  69. @Hhsiii

    We sent her an invitation to do a show at our squadron. “We’ve heard you do a show where you take your clothes off and cover yourself with chocolate pudding. We’d love to have you do your show at our next squadron party. We’re bored with our regular strippers and to a man we LOVE chocolate pudding.” Never heard back, strangely.

    • LOL: hhsiii
  70. @Photondancer

    Broads are going to rue the day they started throwing their sisters under the bus in support of the trans movement.

  71. Dr. X says:
    @Jack D

    I had no idea of how widely done The Vagina Monologues was. Every college in the US and scattered all around the planet has done an annual production for the last 20 years.

    When I started teaching over 20 years ago I worked at community colleges, partly because I didn’t have to relocate and partly because I thought that they would be blue-collar no-nonsense environments.

    I was proven very wrong not long thereafter when one college I worked at put on a production of The Vagina Monologues. (Turned out the place was run by a clique of underqualified but very woke women).

    I didn’t attend, but intrigued by the hoopla, I got a copy of the text to read. I was shocked by how utterly idiotic and juvenile it was and that any college would lower itself to such a level — and make a big deal out of it. For instance, in one part the actresses and the crowd are all supposed to start chanting “Cunt, cunt, cunt” in unison.

    I’d like to see a bunch of fraternity brothers try that and see what the administration does…

    Ensler must be richer than Croesus

    By the way… that’s (((Ensler))). Just sayin’.

  72. SFG says:
    @Jim Christian

    You know how many of us have zero sympathy for women at this point and just kind of laugh? They basically closed down lots of men’s teams, not to mention going after Asperger-y guys for inept displays of interest. When Big Mother shoots herself in the foot, it’s just funny.

    Having sat through pieces of the original when it came out and was trumpeted as a triumph of feminism, it’s kind of amusing to see the snake eat its own tail, so to speak. ‘Tis the sport to have the feminist hoist with her own canard…

    • Replies: @njguy73
  73. @Photondancer

    We still have pussy hats and silicone Stepford dolls, blather switch extra. MSRP <divorce.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  74. TTSSYF says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    After only 21 years, wouldn’t this be considered premature menopause? But regardless — shouldn’t the Women’s Resource Center be required to change its name as well?

  75. rashomoan says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    How about “BEEF Curtains Close on The Vagina Monologues”?

    • LOL: Abe
  76. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    Ya know, it’s funny. I scrupulously avoided any woman with feminist leanings in my college years and after for fear of false sexual harassment accusations and the like (false rape accusations were still a way off). Then later I met a guy who said they were actually the best way to get laid if you weren’t a linebacker or an alpha in other ways. I suppose if you have left-wing politics (common among young people) and an intermediate level of skill (high enough to avoid pissing them off, low enough that hotter women aren’t available), it may have been an effective strategy in the mid-90s.

  77. Well, the play is a bit dry, but they might be rushing things…

    • Replies: @black sea
  78. rashomoan says:
    @MEH 0910

    Why not The B-hole Monologues? (The A-hole is in back)

  79. Bucky says:

    The vagina monologues were always crass.

    I guess. Never saw even a snippet of it. Why? It would be another self-absorbed “artsy” “angsty” thing.

    I think most people see it as a snakes on a plane sort of thing.

    We need an alternative to college for most people.

  80. rashomoan says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This shot really emphasizes Hilary’s lipedema/steatopygia.

  81. @Jim Christian

    They are nothing but a bunch of pussies!

  82. Shura Gat is probably not her birth name:

    • Replies: @additionalMike
  83. black sea says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Sometimes the highpoint of the play is the foreplay.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  84. While Puppetry of the Penis makes a mockery of male genitalia and everybody is alright with that!

  85. guest007 says:

    I suspect that none of the supporters of the play from 1996 ever conceived that it would become politically incorrect and could be held against them in the future. Why is it that so many people believe they are bulletproof and will support the thought police for others.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  86. Ever notice?

    The Handmaid’s Tale equates oppression of womb bearers with oppression of women.
    Not a trans-man among the protagonists.

  87. @dfordoom

    After The Revolutionall the enemies are on the left.

  88. Jack D says:
    @SFG

    The odds are good but the goods are odd.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @SFG
  89. SFG says:
    @Jack D

    Yeah, the women used to say that about male nerds and I always wondered what the male equivalent was. Of course now the goods are potentially dangerous!

    • Replies: @Kronos
  90. Thea says:
    @Dumbo

    In the 90’s I tutored high school students at my college library. I cringed as we walked up the concrete front steps with chalk advertisements for this play.

    They can congratulate themselves for Épater la bourgeoisie.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  91. Stealth says:
    @Anon

    Hot damn. That is interesting.

  92. Thea says:
    @Anon

    If someonetold an actual Spaniard that they were not white they would pull out a map and have a few words for them.

    Her real problem is her thirstiness for fame and celebrity. She could have been Baldwin’s quiet pretty yoga wife but she just has to be a loudmouth influencer.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  93. Why not The Front Hole Monologues?

    People are angry over this safe seχ guide, which calls the νagina a ‘front hole’

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/people-angry-safe-sex-guide-calls-vagina-front-hole-012527170.html

    I feel a civilizational collapse coming on.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  94. @SFG

    This is another topic that has been around awhile. In the late 1980s, I dated, heavily and rather seriously, a college girl ten years younger. For an art class at the University of Colorado, she made a sculpture of what she titled, “My Twat.”

    I watched her make it in my apartment, where she spent a lot of time. It was four feet tall. The inner labia were made of pink satin. The clitoris was a foam rubber thingy at the top with carefully sewn, little drapes of satin around it.

    She described to me how she was invited to stand up in the studio and talk about “her twat” in front of the other students at Boulder.

    That predated The Vagina Monologues, and I remember that vaginas were already a hot topic. I thought that was cool.

    She is an acupuncturist there now.

  95. Is there anything about feminism that isn’t ugly?

  96. ken says:
    @Jack D

    There are no chicks with dicks only guys with boobs.

  97. Aardvark says:
    @Dumbo

    They are not even close to being completely crushed. I read over on The Federalist that Biden intends to sign an Executive Order (it’s amazing what a President can do with one of those things) on day one that would require all schools receiving Federal funding to allow open access to restrooms depending how a child identifies. What could go wrong with that in a High School?
    Chuck Schumer Endorses Biden’s Plan To Force Public Schools To Allow Males In Female Bathrooms

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    , @raga10
  98. G. Poulin says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Is that a sail, or is that Monica’s dress that Bill is jacking onto?

  99. @Buzz Mohawk

    “She[your girlfriend] is an acupuncturist now.”

    I suppose the threat of being poked with needles in her tenderest spot would cure the worst feminine itch for any woman.

    I have long thought a public production of “The Vagina Monologues” the perfect vehicle to raise money for the Democrat party. Who wouldn’t shell out big bucks to listen to Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren and Barack Obama prattle on about their vaginas?

  100. @JohnnyWalker123

    Is that really Hillary’s ass in that picture? It looks like something poorly photoshopped by a twelve year old boy.

    It looks as if an entire 60% of her body mass is buttocks.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  101. @Harry Baldwin

    Swift tells … of encouraging a man in absurdity, instead of endeavouring to extricate him.

    Exactly. The wrong half of the Washington Redskins was renamed. How about New Dakar? Perfectly fitting for the approaching white majority of the city state.

    The Monument, if not torn down, should be rededicated and painted African colors, or better yet, with red slogans. The more radical, the better.

    Instead of one new star on the flag, grant statehood to each of the four quadrants. Better yet, to each neighborhood. Imagine new states named Petworth, Piney Branch, Foggy Bottom, and Blue Plains Advanced Wastewater Treatment Plant.

    Puerto Rico should be offered back to Spain. Wait… that suggestion is serious. That’s for another list.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    , @Russ
  102. DuanDiRen says:

    Totally off topic, but I found this fascinating: https://www-wsj-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-to-increase-the-black-homeownership-rate-11608156100

    Follow the logic: homes in Black neighborhoods are too cheap, which prevents African-Americans from owning their own home.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @anon
  103. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Was it a good likeness? Self portraiture is not easy. Did she work with a mirror? From a photograph? Or was it just kind of a generic twat, could have been anyone’s? Inquiring minds want to know.

    If a male artist tried this, we would (rightly) consider him to be an enormous dick (literally) but females are licensed, even encouraged, to exercise this sort of extreme narcissism.

    • Replies: @Thea
  104. Thea says:
    @Jack D

    Lena Dunham’s father made a living painting female nether regions. His paintings decorated her childhood home.

  105. Having a vagina, not having a vagina. Sounds exhausting.

  106. Dan Hayes says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yeah, it was just too good to be true in its photoshopped form! Thanks.

  107. George says:
    @MEH 0910

    Chatterbox trailers are on Youtube and the film is available on Amazon prime and perhaps others. Hey, iSteve when was the last time you saw Rip Taylor and Prof Irwin Corey (The Youth should note neither was really worth seeing, but Corey will achieve immortally through a walk on roll in the movie Carwash)?

    Hey iSteve, why can’t the Vagina Dialogues be updated to include women born men or even men born women or even men born men (who will insist, against all evidence to the contrary, that they do not have a vagina)? I think iSteve has written 5 or 6 articles about women born men who transitioned, or whatever the terminology is. Who is telling their vagina’s stories? Well actually they are pretty obstreperous about telling their own vagina’s stories.

  108. Currahee says:

    “Gender Justice Advocacy Coalition”
    Satire is dead.

  109. Alfa158 says:
    @Hhsiii

    It was funny when Finley stopped doing those performances. She was fairly good looking with a pretty nice body, and she eventually realized that some of the audience was the Times Square, raincoat wearing, mouth breathers who were viewing it as porno.

    • LOL: hhsiii
  110. @JohnnyWalker123

    We’re in the end stage of Weimar.

    In terms of craziness, I think we’re way beyond Weimar Germany.

  111. AceDeuce says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I’ve seen this pic before, but didn’t know the location. Bill actually took Hill to Pedo Island?

    Oy Gevalt! Talk about bringing sand to the beach…..Then again, I’m sure they flew solo while down there. Or not (shudder).

    Re: the Vagina Monologues–There must be a God. The “play” itself was stupid and no doubt transgressive just for the sake of shock–it therefore seems like divine justice to have it savaged, not by the bourgeois or the hated, derided Christian “fundies”, whose opinions are as influential in 2020 American cultural matters as a fart in a hurricane, but by even more offensive and loony leftists. There is no bottom to their depravity and insanity–and as many a rueful “tough guy”, pool hustler, or poker player can tell you: Sometimes you run into someone who wipes the floor with you.

    Ensler is a rich (((white))) senior citizen who grew up well-off in Scarsdale and went to college in Vermont. She’s no doubt as tough and savvy as a Muppet, and doesn’t have a leg to stand on against these loons.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @Reg Cæsar
  112. martin_2 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    This is another topic that has been around awhile. In the late 1980s, I dated, heavily and rather seriously, a college girl ten years younger. For an art class at the University of Colorado, she made a sculpture of what she titled, “My Twat.”

    This is precisely the kind of useless activity about which my dear old Auntie Anne would say that the person involved should have spent that time weeding an old lady’s garden.

  113. Abe says:
    @Jim Christian

    Another thing, stolen from women, by men. Sorta like golf scholarships. And other stuff. When are they going to fight back?

    All their guns were directed at the (white) heterosexual men they so deeply hated and so convinced were they of the truth of this hate the guns were put in completely fixed emplacements. It was thus only a matter of time before a General Ersatz Wumenarain or Fedor von Formercock would come along and outflank their Vaginot Line.

  114. @Buzz Mohawk

    Sounds like you dodged a crazy bullet there.

  115. FozzieT says:
    @AnotherDad

    I think Rush Limbaugh said it best: “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”

  116. @Reg Cæsar

    Spain will take it only if the island is delivered vacant — i.e., wholly devoid of Puerto Ricans.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jack D
  117. Our own Desanex can start on a new stage production…”The Penis Poems.”

  118. @Kronos

    Come on. Only an idiotic American Neocon like Goldberg could write a whole book earnestly claiming Fascism is really left wing, Liberals are left wing, therefore Libruls are the reel Fasshists. This is just stupid name calling for American right wingers to feel smug about (‘fascist’ being the worst thing you can be in modern politics), similar to the ‘Dems are the real racists because (drags up something from the pre-1950s’ crap, not serious analysis. Part of the problem here is trying to boil complex phenomena down to two labels like ‘left’ and ‘right’. It encourages politics to be discussed about at the level of a (very) heated football-team rivalry. Maybe that’s the point. Anyway, I’m not surprised a fool like Vox Day recommends this stuff (though I am disappointed people lap it up), but maybe he should stick to his comics…

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
  119. @SFG

    A feminist is just a chick with daddy issues.

    You’ll never meet a self-described “feminist” who’s not really angry with her father for one or more of the following: (a) leaving the family; (b) molesting her; or (c) not protecting her when she was sexually assaulted. In other words, no feminist had a Norman Rockwell, Father-Knows-Best upbringing, no matter how they try to pretend later. Extreme head cases from nurture, not nature.

    Chicks with daddy issues either completely reject men because of it (lesbians) or run from man to man trying to spite/find the male they missed out on as girl (sluts). Heck, even the lesbians only last as long as their loneliness for daddy doesn’t kick in around other men (hence why lesbians try to make so many female-only spaces; if men are around and they get lonely, they lose so many of the sisterhood to the dudes).

    This is all a long way to say that it’s remarkably easy to find an easy lay amongst feminist chicks. And that was before the sex-positive, slut-pushing second and third wave feminism took hold. The latter only reinforced and amplified the skankiness the daddy’s issues created.

    Of course, you are dealing with head cases, and most don’t take care of their hygiene and reject normal feminine behavior, so you’re not dealing with the best kind of women. And don’t get me started on the ones who think every bedroom act is a political negotiation when they’re sober. Of course, most are heavy alcohol/substance abusers, so they get trashed and that’s when you can get your rocks off, if that’s what you desire.

  120. Neuday says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    So Johnson was an accelerationist. Good to know.

  121. Neuday says:

    Is it too late for some Gay playwriter to craft The Anus Monologues? I’d expect practicing Gay men to have much more varied relationships with their rectums, since, as a heterosexual male, my relationship with my anus is rather simplistic, though not without occasional surprise or humor. Since everyone has an anus it would be a most inclusive production, and I’m certain that America is ready to hear all about Gays and their intimate practices. We might be Weimerica, but we haven’t yet hit bottom, so to speak.

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @Badger Down
  122. Trinity says:

    The doctor told me that I didn’t look so good. I told the doctor that I was like a vagina in that I don’t look that good but I always feel great.

  123. Thomas says:
    @Dumbo

    Even if I tried, I couldn’t think of a better way of destroying feminism than transgender activism, which really is about men posing as women and crushing women in any endeavour they try.

    Lesbian feminism being crushed to death by transgenderism is one of the funniest and most poetically just trends of the otherwise dreary course of wokeness. All the horny male girl-on-girl fetishists had to do was throw on a sundress and say “I’m a woman now,” and the lavender wall crumbled.

    “Curtains close…”

    Somebody was having a bit of fun with that headline.

  124. Think about it: “the impact that the monologues have on the Cornell community.”

    I wonder what xi means by that.

  125. Corn says:

    There are lots of people on this campus who are uncomfortable with their vaginas

    Many campuses offer free or discounted counseling do they not?

  126. J.Ross says:

    It’s very tawdry and irrelevant that a nation wrecker had her little societal subversion project caught in the sped-up Overton window but there is an alarming censorship consolidation happening, represented by the lawfare punishment of critics of the fraudulent election. The same courts which refused to consider evidence will now crucify the people who attempted to present it. Cancel culture is becoming law. Dissidents will be pursued and criminalized rather than simply defamed.

  127. Abe says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I watched her make it in my apartment, where she spent a lot of time. It was four feet tall. The inner labia were made of pink satin. The clitoris was a foam rubber thingy at the top with carefully sewn, little drapes of satin around it.

    A sculpture but not of marble, bronze, or even clay? So your ex-girlfriend, even in her effort to be an edgy artist, breaks out the foam, satin fabric, and krinkly paper and- like any Suzy Q Homemaker would- decides to… craft?

    At the start of the movie THE RUNAWAYS (which Steve reviewed on TAKIS, gosh 10 years ago now) we start with a close-up of menstrual blood trickling down a character’s thigh. Tori Amos made 1.5 pretty good albums and was so enchanting at one time she got marriage proposals from both Robert Plant and Maynard James Keenan (of TOOL). Yet once her reservoirs of creativity were consumed it was all about “making the raspberry swirl”.

    Abe’s Law of Female Artists: the less a woman artist has left to say, the more she begins leaning on the grossest aspects of her biology.

    Corollary of Abe’s Law: If she never had anything to say, she starts off that way.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  128. Jack D says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    This could be arranged – half their population lives in the US already. And maybe 10% of the Puerto Rican population (the ones who run things already) are of fully or mostly Peninsular blood anyway so they could stay.

    BTW, something like 3/4ths of all Puerto Ricans claim to be “white” on the census IN Puerto Rico. A lower % of Puerto Ricans living in the US claim to be white. This cartoon accompanied an NPR article on this distorted self-image:

    Of course, what they really need to do is to give more affirmative action benefits to blacks in Puerto Rico and then most of the population would declare itself to be black. In this sense, race really is a social construct to some extent.

  129. Kronos says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    It was four feet tall.

    I’m assuming it wasn’t made to scale.

  130. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    It was too expensive to keep matching drapes in stock.

    Dude, carpet is so 80’s.

  131. @Jack D

    Freedom for Puerto Ricans!

    Throw off the yoke of your colonial opppressors!

    I think the first order of business is that bumper stickers should be issued.

  132. @Kronos

    I’m gonna run out of LOLs right quick for this thread. That was bound to happen, as even when I think of the phrase “the vagina monologues”, I get to chuckling.

    I think the Penis Mono-log should be inserted into the Vagina monologues during the popcorn breaks.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
  133. Kronos says:
    @SFG

    Yeah, the women used to say that about male nerds and I always wondered what the male equivalent was.

    The real funny part is that they married each other. While growing up in the 1990s-2000s, it’s remarkable how many middle-upper class parents had low-testosterone beta males tied with bossy high testosterone feminists.

    https://youtu.be/1MYvyftx06M

    • Replies: @SFG
  134. Abe says:
    @Kronos

    It was four feet tall.

    I’m assuming it wasn’t made to scale.

    Billy. Billy! The other day, I was going down on my girlfriend. I said to her, “Jeez you got a big pussy. Jeez you got a big pussy.” She said, “Why did you say that twice?” I said, “I didn’t.”

    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  135. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    The etymology of “pussy” for genitalia is the old Norse “puus” meaning pocket, or purse. It does not derive from a resemblance between female genatalia and felines. This I pointed-out to an Ivy-educated woman who had marched in a pussy-hat parade. Her justice was swift and her mercy slight, but I think I am correct about this.

    • Replies: @raga10
  136. Kronos says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I always think of this scene when an Unz thread is off the hook. (I do believe the number of lols/agrees/etc should be modest but with some threads you just need more ammo.)

  137. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    There has never been a “no enemies on the left” rule.

    Sure has. Don’t be so thick!

    If you doubt me, ask Bernie Sanders. Or ask Jeremy Corbyn.

    I know you are wrong. Ask Leon Trotsky or Robespierre.

    Rules for one phase of a conflict might not last into a later phase. They might even be reversed.

    “Four legs good, two legs bad”, remember? Dude, that book’s been around almost as long as you have!

  138. Hibernian says:
    @dfordoom

    I think it’s “No enemies to the left.”

  139. syonredux says:

    Trying to distance yourself from Whiteness is tough….

    Hilaria Baldwin’s Very Public Journey to Declaring “Yes I Am a White Girl”
    After a long-simmering Twitter controversy about the authenticity of her Spanish accent, the yoga instructor issued a lengthy statement. Her husband Alec Baldwin also came to her defense on social media.

    Hilaria Baldwin addressed some lingering questions over her name, accent, and professed Spanish heritage over the weekend after a Twitter user sparked an online investigation last week, writing, “You have to admire Hilaria Baldwin’s commitment to her decade long grift where she impersonates a Spanish person.”

    In a 2018 cover interview, the yoga instructor told Hola! magazine that she was born in Spain and “has made certain to raise her children with her native language, Spanish.” Her biography on her agency’s website also claims, “Baldwin was born in Mallorca, Spain and raised in Boston, Massachusetts.” She also regularly speaks with a Spanish accent and during a cooking segment on the Today show seemed to forget the English word for cucumber.

    However, in response to the viral tweet calling her Spanish ancestry into question, a number of people claiming to be Hilaria’s former high school classmates came forward to clarify that her name is, in fact, Hillary Hayword-Thomas, she grew up in Massachusetts, and while she’s a very nice girl, she is not Spanish. Hilaria told the podcast “Motherhood, Marriage & Miscarriages” in April that she moved to New York from Spain when she was 19 to attend NYU. However, she is also listed as a notable alumnus on the Wikipedia page for the Cambridge School of Weston in Weston, Massachusetts. Both her parents, Dr. Kathryn Hayword and David Thomas, do currently reside in Mallorca after moving there in 2011. One Twitter user, who describes herself as a professional genealogist, claimed that after doing a “quick and dirty tree” of Baldwin’s maternal ancestry, she “found English, Irish, French Canadian, German, and Slovak. Some deep New England roots. No Spain in sight.” The obituary for Hilaria’s paternal grandfather, David Thomas Sr., also states that his “family presence in that part of Vermont pre-dated the American Revolution.”

    On Sunday, Hilaria addressed the speculation over her ancestry on Instagram, posting a video in which she explains, “I spent some of my childhood in Boston, some of my childhood in Spain, my family, my brother, my parents, my nephew, everybody is over there in Spain now, I’m here.” She added that she grew up speaking both English and Spanish in the home and her changing accent is because “I am that person, if I’ve been speaking a lot of Spanish, I tend to mix them or if I’m speaking a lot of English, I mix that, it’s one of those things I’ve always been a bit insecure about.” As for her name, “When I was growing up, in this country I would use the name Hillary, and in Spain I would use Hilaria and my family, my parents, call me Hilaria,” she says. After meeting her husband, she decided to “consolidate” things under the name Hilaria. “Yes I am a white girl, my family is white…Europe has a lot of white people in them. Ethnically I am a mix of many, many things.” She added, “I care because my thing is about being authentic and then if people say I’m not being authentic, it hurts my feelings…I don’t really understand why it’s turning into such a big thing…I’m getting attacked for being who I am…people wanting to label me Spanish or America, can’t it be both? It’s frustrating that is my story.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/12/hilaria-baldwin-spanish-heritage-alec-baldwin-explanation-defense

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Daniel H
  140. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He quite likely would have approved of the decadence.

  141. Hibernian says:
    @guest007

    For which see the French Revolution and just about every Leftist revolution.

  142. I just finished reading a book about the trails west and the frontier, “The Death of the Bravos.” Best line in the book is that while the 49ers were looking for gold, the bar girls were sitting on gold mines.

  143. Kronos says:
    @Inselaffen

    Come on. Only an idiotic American Neocon like Goldberg could write a whole book earnestly claiming Fascism is really left wing, Liberals are left wing, therefore Libruls are the reel Fasshists.

    It’s certainly a gem found in a septic tank. It’s filled with “muh Jewish people, muh holocaust” writing content but worthwhile. I always found fascism to be an oddball that never really seemed to fit on either side. Mussolini and Hitler were never monarchists, libertarians, etc but the contemporary left constantly blasted them as arch-rightists. It turned out that Mussolini was a great writing buddy with Lenin and frequently discussed the best means of spreading socialism. It was only with World War II approaching that people like Stalin turned on fascism. That these socialist apostates magically turned into hardcore rightists overnight. Something that US and European communists immediately adopted like Marxist-Leninist biology.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2008/01/interview-with-jonah-goldberg.html?m=1

    • Replies: @SFG
  144. Cortes says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Sometimes things will be clearer with a second opinion:

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
  145. @AceDeuce

    I’ve seen this pic before, but didn’t know the location. Bill actually took Hill to Pedo Island?

    That picture was taken in BJC’s second term during his Lewinski troubles, and leaked to the press as him and HRC having a tender moment that just happened to be caught on film, ignoring the fact that anyone close enough to take the picture would also be close enough to shoot Clinton. It was a cynical ploy approved by the Secret Service, and anybody with half a brain knew it.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  146. Mr. Anon says:
    @Inselaffen

    You are quite correct. Goldberg’s ridiculous idea is an argumentum ad Hitlerum – everyone I disagree with is Hitler and therefore a poo-poo-head. It appeals to ernest middle-brow conservatives – the same sort of people whom, as you point out, subscribe to the DRR (Dems are the Real Racists) narrative. It’s childish.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  147. Diversity is an angry God

    • Agree: Daniel H
  148. njguy73 says:
    @SFG

    The jocks and the nerds need to realize they have more in common than they think. They’re both targets of Woke women.

    • Replies: @SFG
  149. njguy73 says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Check out the Wikipedia page for Eve Ensler under “early life.”

  150. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    The notion of a ‘monologue’ is inherently non-‘inclusive’. But then, what is PC but mostly a monologue. Whenever a PC-fier says there needs to be a ‘conversation’, what is really meant is ‘I talk, you listen’.

    Btw, how about ‘Female Penis Monologue’?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  151. Frogger says:

    Seems like there’s a real opportunity opening up for my new play, “The C*nt Chronicles”.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
  152. @syonredux

    This all is idiotic. Spanish are whites, but for ordinary colorless & de-eroticized “Anglo” (which includes also various Celts), they have a mystique of exoticism. This woman’s aura is, I guess, erotically glowing due to the burning heat of Iberian Eros (just think of Goya’s Maya).

    Or it may be something more mundane: people are stupid. For instance, NNDB defines Picasso’s race or ethnicity as Hispanic: https://www.nndb.com/people/373/000024301/

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @syonredux
  153. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    Stalinism and fascism kind of cluster together at the top of the political compass. Two axes don’t fit all ideologies, but they’re better than 1 I think.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  154. SFG says:
    @njguy73

    I think the new generation’s figured that out, more or less. At the least the nerds have. The jocks, I think, are using their superior social skills to tell the Woke ladies what they want to hear.

    Nerd/jock was much more of a thing GenX and earlier anyway.

  155. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    Well, people who don’t fit the gender ideal are going to be more receptive to an ideology that says that gender is BS and should be done away with, no?

    Of course, in that segment Jerry’s actually stupid. But there’s a lot of truth to it.

  156. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos

    I’m assuming it wasn’t made to scale.

    No, just to look at.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
  157. @Enemy of Earth

    Im working on a screenplay about a boxer who kills a guy in the ring and in shame,quits boxing and goes to Ireland to hide away. He vows he will never strike a man or have sex with a woman. Barry Fitzgerald in “The Quiet Dick.”

    • LOL: Kylie
  158. Anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:

    “The [Blank] Monologues” could be the epitaph of 2020

    • Replies: @Kronos
  159. anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753

    You mean an enlarged clitoris with prolapsed ovaries.

    • LOL: BB753
  160. Barnard says:
    @DuanDiRen

    Perry conducted research with his colleagues that found that homes in Black neighborhoods are underpriced by 23%, about $48,000 per home, he says. Cumulatively that’s $156 billion in lost equity, he adds. “We controlled for education, crime, walkability, all those fancy Zillow metrics,” he says.

    It doesn’t sound like they factored in demand. Appraisers don’t set the value of homes, the market sets the value. It is hard to imagine the ignorance of the reporter who uncritically reports that “we should create new mortgage products that allow low-income renters to become homeowners.” Who would make a better home owner for an old house in a run down neighborhood than a person who has been getting subsidized rent and has never been responsible for a home repair bill?

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  161. Kylie says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Feminists seem to have a knack for taking the beautiful and making it ugly or just tedious.”

    Not just feminists. all leftists. Not just a knack but a genius. Not just the beautiful but all of Western Civilization.

    They are, every last one of them, the relentless and ruthless enemies of the beautiful and the true.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  162. syonredux says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This all is idiotic.

    Indeed. But people treat the catchall “Hispanic/Latino/Latinx” category as a racial designation, despite the fact that a word that encompasses both Cameron Diaz

    and Rosario Dawson

    is basically meaningless.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  163. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abe

    That character was played by the film’s likely script doctor, who sportingly went first to be processed by the alien (note: Not counting any random Sandinistas from before, in the nonspecific Central Am. smuggling corridor where we lay our scene). A cheap trick in ‘80s action/horror movies was telegraphing the kick-off victim by having him or her struggle with reciting a joke the rest of the cast doesn’t laugh at. It’s remarkable that even the lowest pre-Tarantino pop culture of the time tended to place value on decorum over levity. Bruce Willis probably ended that trope.

    Pretty lame how the alien in rebooting turned out to be a climate change evangelist, too.

  164. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    Higher education has always been prone to absurdities. Scholars used to be obsessed with how many angels could fit on the head of a pin, and they were convinced the earth was flat and the center of the universe, and they legally prosecuted anyone who thought otherwise.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Odin
  165. @syonredux

    And, an aside- people pay too much attention to celebrities. Kurt Russell was right:

    https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/film/kurt-russell-says-actors-shouldnt-get-involved-in-politics-we-are-court-jesters-2821071

    Kurt Russell says actors shouldn’t get involved in politics: “We are court jesters”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  166. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    The whole point of putting on the Vagina Monologues as a play was so lesbians could loudly mate call to other lesbians, and so male hetero guys could get hot and bothered by listening to women talking about vaginas.

    That completes the total description of the players and audience.

  167. Kronos says:
    @Anonymous

    How about: “The Woke Awards”

  168. Daniel H says:
    @syonredux

    May God bless Hilary Baldwin and her children. I wouldn’t mind young, educated women adopting all this silly SJW nonsense if they would just get down and be loving, productive and protective mothers as is Hilary Baldwin. May she and Alec have 5 more kids.

  169. Cato says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Every young man should read [Boswell on] Johnson. Instead of wasting time with absurdities such as Vagina Monologues.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  170. @jon

    ‘It really is amazing. A bunch of mentally unstable dudes are rolling through, with their male aggression and dominance very much intact, and taking over.’

    There’s something perversely satisfying about it all, though.

    If we must be demented, let’s get really demented. No sense in doing things by halves, etc.

  171. AceDeuce says:
    @Thea

    The Spix are like those large-nosed people whose breath smells like smoked fish. They are “white” when it’s to their advantage, and not “white” when it’s not.

  172. @syonredux

    [Hispanic] ‘…is basically meaningless.’

    It’s certainly hopelessly vague. To start with, I have a whole set of attitudes about Mexican and Central American Hispanics that don’t really apply to other flavors of Hispanic, and certainly not to the mulatto ones.

    And that’s only the beginning…

    I had an epiphany about ten years ago. A second-generation Mexican carpenter that I used was bitching about a Guatemalan that we both knew. I realized the Mexican was a lot closer to me in most respects than he was to the Guatemalan. The Mexican was just this ethnic working-class type — he could have as easily been Polish-American, as far as I was concerned. That would describe his distance from me.

    The Guatemalan was straight-up Indian. Hell, when he brought a helper they both spoke some Indian language — not Spanish. You could practically hear the wind flutes. If I was at ‘ten,’ and Marcelino was at ‘zero,’ Jaime would have been at either ‘seven’ or ‘eight.’

    So is it Jaime and Marcelino on one hand, and me on the other — or me and Jaime on one hand, and Marcelino on the other?

    ‘Hispanic’ doesn’t tell one much.

    • Replies: @SFG
  173. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    We still have pussy hats

    We’ll never see another pussy hat march. Totally offensive to women without vaginas.

    Feminism is basically over. Before we start celebrating we should realise it’s been replaced by something much worse and much crazier.

  174. dfordoom says: • Website
    @R.G. Camara

    hence why lesbians try to make so many female-only spaces; if men are around and they get lonely, they lose so many of the sisterhood to the dudes

    That’s actually quite true. I used to know a lot of lesbians. An astonishing number ended up with men.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  175. Thoughts says:

    Trump’s not going to contest the election.

    The 2000 dollar checks being passed was his final farewell gift to the American people and most likely a deal he made

    “I don’t contest the election….you guys give everyone 2k”

    Now…what would be even coolor…is if Trump would say to the Democrats ‘I don’t contest the election, you guys give everyone 2K’

    And once the bill was signed and checks on their way to the people

    He goes against his promise and Declares Martial Law and Launches an Color Revolution the Liberal Fascists won’t forget!

    The way to deal with Liberals is to lie…about everything…for as long as possible…and fleece them silly!

  176. @Buzz Mohawk

    Wasn’t there an Everybody Love’s Raymond Episode where Actress Doris Roberts did the same thing, only unwittingly?

  177. @Inselaffen

    Only an idiotic American Neocon like Goldberg could write a whole book earnestly claiming Fascism is really left wing, Liberals are left wing, therefore Libruls are the reel Fasshists.

    The real problem is that he people he calls “liberals” are in no way liberal in any sense of the term. They are authoritarian progressives.

    Part of the problem here is trying to boil complex phenomena down to two labels like ‘left’ and ‘right’.

    A linear spectrum can be useful for a single factor, but no more. My college comparitive government professor had that factor boiled down to change. The left wants to change everything, the right wants to repeal the changes already made.

    On that spectrum, fascists and national socialists clearly fit in the center. As do corporate progressives. They want both to make radical changes and to keep what they have.

    Have you been paying attention this year? The Left has been behaving very brown-shirty. Comparison to fascism, especially the pre-power variety, is most apt.

    “When fascism comes to America, it will be called antifa(scism).” Never truer than now.

    similar to the ‘Dems are the real racists because (drags up something from the pre-1950s’ crap, not serious analysis

    Serious analysis would begin with asking why the Democrats are the real racists. The simple answer is that they know something and they’re not telling. After all, they have 200 years of intimate contact to draw upon.

    E.g., why can’t Chicago trust blacks like Otis McDonald with guns? Well, duh, maybe blacks just cannot be trusted. But if that’s the case, why do we trust them with votes? Or citizenship? Or presence?

    • Agree: bomag
  178. @Jim Don Bob

    “Shura as a girls’ name (also used as boys’ name Shura) is of Russian and Greek origin, and the meaning of Shura is “man’s defender”. Diminutive form of Alexander.”

    According to Online dictionary.
    Of course, Ms. Gat will only defend men with vaginas.

  179. @AceDeuce

    There must be a God. The “play” itself was stupid and no doubt transgressive just for the sake of shock–it therefore seems like divine justice to have it savaged, not by the bourgeois or the hated, derided Christian “fundies”… but by even more offensive and loony leftists.

    “Why did it have to be a 💩ty little communist?” –Jacqueline Kennedy

    • LOL: AceDeuce
  180. @dfordoom

    Old left vs New Left vs SJW Left.

    The Old left was primarily concerned with “bread and butter” economic issues of importance to long-suffering workers, who wanted relief from their hardscrabble existence. Many were Socialists or Trade Unionists. They were working people who wanted to put food on the table. Huey Long types. The Greatest Generation.

    The New Left emphasized the concerns of affluent college-educated youths. Primarily opposition to war and imperialism. Also, youth rebellion, sexual liberation, feminism, and everything else we associate with the 60s. Hippie stuff. They wanted liberation from the system and the opportunity to do whatever the hell they desired. They wanted fun and wild times. Boomers and Xers.

    The SJW Left has dropped the traditional leftist aversion to Big Corps, oligarchs, and the military-industrial complex. They’re actually quite comfortable with authority too and generally have no desire to be rambunctious. They’re actually a strange blend of liberalism and conservatism. They want a conservative social order that enforces liberal cultural orthodoxies and safeguards them…. So they want the FBI to prosecute “hate” groups, and the CIA to protect them from Russian “hackers.” They like pro-SJW, socially conscious billionaires who finance groups like BLM. They’d rather go for a safe centrist Democrat (like Biden) over a revolutionary (like Bernie or Tulsi). Millenials and Generation Z.

    An Old Leftist will tell you that he hates financier/oligarch types. A New Leftist will criticize the military and his strict parents. A SJW Leftist will concede moral legitimacy to the oligarchs and the military, as long as these institutions pledge allegiance to his orthodoxies and guard his “safe space.”

    The SJW Left is a product of the helicopter parenting that Millenials and (more especially) Generation Z grew up with within their homes. They’re used to authority figures (parents, teachers, etc.) telling them what to do and providing them with little (if any) freedom, while they vegetate in front of a screen. A lot of these kids never had close friends or spent much time in an unsupervised environment with other young people, so they’re not used to bullying or psychological aggression from other kids. They’re used to being under constant supervision and protection from authority figures. That’s why they crave their “safe space” and hate hearing anything that offends them. They are delicate, soft, and the products of a sheltered existence.

    When these Millenial and Gen Z kids become adults, they’re willing to obey the new authority figures (oligarchs, military, politicians, professors). They just expect the new authorities to continue to offer them a “safe space” and protect them from “mean” language. As long as they get that, they’ll concede power to the authorities and act obediently.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Thanks: bomag
  181. raga10 says:
    @Anon

    The etymology of “pussy” for genitalia is the old Norse “puus” meaning pocket

    That might or might not be true, but in any case, I don’t think it matters. It has been used as reference to women and their sexual organs since the 16th century, at least.

    Anyway. I’m just here to say that as an actual honest Leftist who just wants to string all rich bastards by their testicles or vaginas alike, I despair over what the Left has become. Is *this* really the most pressing issue – where to put people who like to wear dresses despite not possessing vagina?!? Include them, exclude them – who cares? They constitute less than one percent of the population. Left should be concentrating on arranging the above-mentioned stringing, not spilling seas of (virtual) ink over the issues of transgendered people.

  182. @Frogger

    “The Foreskin Saga”

    “The Ball-Sack Bildungsroman”

    That’s enough for now.

    This is starting to sound too much like a conversation in 7th grade.

  183. Deckin says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Obviously no one here remembers this. The photo is from Hawaii when the Clinton’s did one of their ‘polled in advance’ vacations. There were no reporters allowed on the beach itself, but the story is, when the Clinton’s saw the reporters in a boat offshore, they immediately went into their typical fake mode and contrived this supposedly ‘spontaneous’ dance. Other theories were that the reporters were in on it.

    The most completely phony and soulless people on the planet have to be those two (against fierce competition from others in their circles).

    • Replies: @Kronos
  184. @Aardvark

    I read over on The Federalist that Biden intends to sign an Executive Order (it’s amazing what a President can do with one of those things) on day one that would require all schools receiving Federal funding to allow open access to restrooms depending how a child identifies. What could go wrong with that in a High School?

    How about in prison?

    And males who “identify as female” will be entitled to “OBGYN”, says President Joe.

    Was Weimar Germany that insane? Not by a long shot.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  185. @Bardon Kaldian

    Kurt Russell says actors shouldn’t get involved in politics: “We are court jesters”

    Agreed. Shut up and sing.

  186. anon[904] • Disclaimer says:
    @DuanDiRen

    Paging G.W. Bush, paging George W. “Ownership Society” Bush. Please pick up the gold loan-phone.

    I mean, who could possibly remember allllll the way back to 2004 ? It was like, ages and ages ago! 16 years, musta been during the last ice age.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  187. @Gary in Gramercy

    “A “debate” between Titania and Ann Coulter…”

    Ah. Vagina dialogues.

  188. @Anon

    Scholars used to be obsessed with how many angels could fit on the head of a pin,

    Time to put that myth to rest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

    ……………….
    It is first recorded in the 17th century, in the context of Protestant apologetics.
    …………………………….
    Thomas Aquinas’s Summa Theologica, written c. 1270, includes discussion of several questions regarding angels such as, “Can several angels be in the same place?” However, the idea that such questions had a prominent place in medieval scholarship has been debated, and it has not been proved that this particular question was ever disputed. One theory is that it is an early modern fabrication,[a] used to discredit scholastic philosophy at a time when it still played a significant role in university education. James Franklin has raised the scholarly issue, and mentions that there is a 17th-century reference in William Chillingworth’s Religion of Protestants (1637),[7] where he accuses unnamed scholastics of debating “whether a Million of Angels may not fit upon a Needle’s point?” This is earlier than a reference in the 1678 The True Intellectual System Of The Universe by Ralph Cudworth. Helen S. Lang, author of Aristotle’s Physics and its Medieval Varieties (1992), says (p. 284):

    The question of how many angels can dance on the point of a needle, or the head of a pin, is often attributed to ‘late medieval writers’…. In point of fact, the question has never been found in this form…

  189. First they came for Men, then they came for Women, leaving in their wake confused, non reproductive, gender fluid drones.

    It will be unnatural to still have one’s natural sexual organs.

    Is the use of a possessive pronoun in reference to a person, such as in “my partner”, a capital offense? Maybe next year.

  190. @dfordoom

    And unsurprisingly, middle aged and late-life open & proud gay men often have a super-tonnage of regrets about embracing the gay lifestyle.

    Many go completely monk in sexual activity despite having active libidos, access to Viagra, and willing partners. Others begin the slow process of rejecting their previous pride in being warped, often starting with religious journeys and eventually into castigation of the flamboyancy of the homosexual world and a realization that it is not healthy.

    • Agree: Cortes
  191. @Barnard

    They already did that under Biily Jeff Clinton’s regime, with the Community Reinvestment Act, which required mortgage lenders to make loans to people who couldn’t repay, for houses that were one step away from being crack houses.

    Most likely the buyers were paying other peoples money to the landlord owners to whom they were paying rent. The landlords were then able to dump their ghetto rental properties at inflated prices. Another rip off by The Usual Suspects.

    The next logical step was the NINJA loans during the housing bubble, fueling yet another financial crisis since the FED’s creation.

    Keep in mind that the FED was supposedly (A Big Lie) created to prevent financial crises, not create them for private gains by Insiders.

  192. @anon

    Wrong, Bill Clinton signed the Community Reinvestment Act early in his first term, which forced mortgage lenders to create (bad) loans for ghetto dwellers to purchase ghetto housing.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  193. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    My college comparitive government professor had that factor boiled down to change. The left wants to change everything, the right wants to repeal the changes already made.

    Actually the Right is often in favour of change. The neoliberal economic order of today is the result of changes forced by the Right since the 1970s. And the Right was in favour of destroying the manufacturing sector. That certainly qualifies as change. The elimination of job security is a change that has been energetically pushed by the Right.

    The Right is enthusiastically in favour of change if the changes benefit mega-corporations and bankers and billionaires.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  194. @Greta Handel

    No, actually it is forward, as in erection. (She really likes it.)

  195. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    The left wants to change everything, the right wants to repeal the changes already made.

    It’s also worth pointing out that much of the social change of the past few decades has been driven by Woke Capital. In other words, the Right.

  196. Kronos says:
    @Mr. Anon

    There’s definitely an element of that in the book.

    But I think your mixing the messenger too much with the message. The book was published back in 2008 when National Review and Neoconservatives were getting clobbered (rightfully so) on all sides. (Now, it’s a brain dead comatose patient nearing bankruptcy.)

    The Bush II Administration was nearly a complete disaster from start to finish. I vaguely suspect the book was written to provide something spicy to long suffering Republican voters. That this book wouldn’t be shot down by Trotskyite Neocons for upsetting the ideological dogma that fascism was heavily right wing. Unfortunately, Goldberg had to write the book due to his Jewish bonafides and not a Paleoconservative with real street cred. I think Goldberg had an inkling that Woke SJWs were to join the political scene in a few short years and wanted to capitalize on it. That SJWs would unknowingly draw on their leftist fascist roots called US progressivism.

  197. Curtains Close on The Vagina Monologues

    So the “meat curtains” are closing? Sounds like married life.

  198. @jon

    It’s not really surprising. They would have folded to any misogynist if they’d met one earlier. They obviously hadn’t. After equal rights were gained, all of the feminist whining was about imaginary oppression and they couldn’t imagine real oppression.

    No man fears drag queens because they have no physical or greater aggressiveness advantage over other men. There have never been any feminists who could compete with misogynist drag queens without those women enjoying physical protection by non-misogynist men (I nearly wrote heterosexual men before I remembered that I’ve never known a misogynist homosexual).

    If the estimates are correct that only one man in 40 is homosexual and drag queens are no more common amongst homosexual men, the overwhelming force consists of less than one man in 1600. Of course, it’s doubtful that many drag queens are misogynists and also think they’re women. Let’s take a wild guess and say one man in 32,000 makes up the overwhelming force even though saying 5% of drag queens are mentally ill misogynists seems wildly excessive.

    If feminists want to feel powerful, perhaps they should just accept that men can lie too. Would a misogynist lie that he’s a drag queen and believes he’s a woman if that lets him bully silly, weak feminists who really, really, really just have to accept that lie because feelings? [email protected]

    • Replies: @photondancer
    , @Nico
    , @dfordoom
  199. @Neuday

    Why does it have to be a gay writer? Plenty of straight men talk out of their arses. There’s something intrinsically funny about farts: ask any five-year-old.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A9tomane

  200. raga10 says:
    @Aardvark

    Biden intends to sign an Executive Order (it’s amazing what a President can do with one of those things) on day one that would require all schools receiving Federal funding to allow open access to restrooms depending how a child identifies. What could go wrong with that in a High School?

    And while I criticize the Left for their obsession with transgender people, what about you, Conservatives? Why is this completely minor issue of such importance to you? I swear to God, when I am King one of my first edicts will declare that henceforth all bathrooms throughout the land shall be unisex, just so I never have to sit through another debate about who should use which bathroom!

  201. MBlanc46 says:
    @dfordoom

    I was going to say, “You’ve never been on the Left”. But you apparently are. It simply hasn’t happened to you yet.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  202. Years ago an old timer, looking at his worn out work boots, told me…”You know Joey they should make work boots out of vaginas…stretch to fit, never wear out, but your feet will smell like tuna.”

  203. @JohnnyWalker123

    When these Millenial and Gen Z kids become adults, they’re willing to obey the new authority figures (oligarchs, military, politicians, professors). They just expect the new authorities to continue to offer them a “safe space” and protect them from “mean” language. As long as they get that, they’ll concede power to the authorities and act obediently.

    The below article is a useful adjunct to that thought, and the rest of your post.

    A Taxonomy of Fear

    https://www.persuasion.community/p/a-taxonomy-of-fear

    “… In The Coddling of the American Mind, Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt describe the recent emergence and rapid spread on college campuses of what they call “safetyism,” a view that “equates emotional discomfort with physical danger.” Safetyism, they write, teaches students “to see words as violence and interpret ideas and speakers as safe versus dangerous.” …”

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  204. dfordoom says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    When these Millenial and Gen Z kids become adults, they’re willing to obey the new authority figures (oligarchs, military, politicians, professors). They just expect the new authorities to continue to offer them a “safe space” and protect them from “mean” language. As long as they get that, they’ll concede power to the authorities and act obediently.

    Perhaps the SJW Left should really be called the SJW Right. They love capitalism, worship billionaires, they’re besotted by consumerism, they crave authoritarianism. They’re definitely the SJW Right.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  205. @Jack D

    I don’t have any handle on Nuyoricans or your Phillyricans but this picture is off for Puerto Rico as a whole. Most look more like the girl in the mirror–some mix–than stereotypical black Americans.

    I was last there quite a while back–family spring-break trip. We stayed outside of San Juan to the east. There’s a traditional black community we travelled through east of San Juan which really is black. Probably little white admixture.

    But driving around the rest of the island, there’s a pretty good mix. Maybe 1/3 of the other folks would categorize straightforwardly as “black” in the American sense. But most don’t. The look like some mixed variant–like AOC–which doesn’t–because of the Indian component or having Spanish rather than NW Euro white component–look like American blacks, even talented 10th blacks. More like the girl in the mirror–suitably darkened. (Way different–and much more attractive–than say the Bahamas where folks are black like the towel girl.)

    I fly in and out of Orlando regularly. Lots of Puerto Ricans manning the airport. A few look “black” in the American sense. But most really do not. If you had to do a binary selection according to American rules–most i guess would have to be “black”. But they just look like their own thing–Puerto Ricans. Though the women–whom i tend to notice more–do tend to have larger posteriors (though different and nicer than the standard “black” form).

    I think the DNA studies (quite glance at wikipedia) cough up something akin to my impressions. Maybe 1/4 black DNA–but half of it is concentrated in a 10-15% black population who calls themselves blacks. The rest is mulatto to white-Spanish with native Indian DNA mixed in.

    They are really their own thing and should have just been their own nation. Another US own-goal.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  206. Kronos says:
    @Deckin

    The most completely phony and soulless people on the planet have to be those two (against fierce competition from others in their circles).

    Who’d you consider to be the major contenders?

  207. Kronos says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    When these Millenial and Gen Z kids become adults, they’re willing to obey the new authority figures (oligarchs, military, politicians, professors). They just expect the new authorities to continue to offer them a “safe space” and protect them from “mean” language. As long as they get that, they’ll concede power to the authorities and act obediently.

    It certainly seems that they’re trying to pack such kids into positions of influence. The kind of people Joe Biden can command from a wheelchair. If the Boomer elites ever die, I’d imagine these servants will be buried alive in a McMansion tomb to serve Biden in the afterlife.

    • LOL: raga10
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  208. dfordoom says: • Website
    @MBlanc46

    I was going to say, “You’ve never been on the Left”. But you apparently are. It simply hasn’t happened to you yet.

    I’m the one arguing that leftists have never ever had a “no enemies on the left” rule. I’ve seen the butchery that happens when leftists turn on each other. I’ve seen it from the inside. Internal faction fights within the Left are bloodthirsty take-no-prisoners affairs.

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Gary in Gramercy
  209. @Cato

    Perhaps some readers imagine Boswell’s books would be heavy sledding, instead of the highly entertaining fare that they are.

  210. anon[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    I’m the one arguing that leftists have never ever had a “no enemies on the left” rule.

    You’re still wrong. Thick as a brick, too [shout out to Achmed!].

    I’ve seen the butchery that happens when leftists turn on each other.

    Merely a falling out among thieves. Because before they turn on each other, leftards support each other. Trotsky is an obvious example. You’ve surely heard of him? He used to be famous among Leftards. You are a Lefty, correct?

    I’ve seen it from the inside.

    There, I knew it. Confirmation is always handy.

    Internal faction fights within the Left are bloodthirsty take-no-prisoners affairs.

    Lol.
    I’ve told you a million times not to exaggerate…

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  211. Charon says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Keep in mind that most of the molestation stories are fabricated. Among feminists, you’re an absolute non-entity if you don’t have an elaborate story of your own; the more outrageous the better. This is how we not only get a Jackie Coakley, we get a nation of idiots who believe her.

  212. AceDeuce says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Taking the whole “prisoner self-identification” thing one step further, I wonder if they could just “identify” as innocent and be allowed to leave…

  213. @dfordoom

    When the policy on gays in the military was revised back in 2011, I remember Obama gave a shout out to a now openly gay US military sniper. Obama commended him for killing a lot of “bad guys” in Iraq.

    A former “community activist” became president and then commended a gay sniper for killing lots of Middle Easterners in a pointless war.

    Today’s SJW Left would horrify the Vietnam generation.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  214. @Kronos

    A lot of these kids would be excellent candidates for the Milgram experiment.

    • Agree: Kronos
  215. @PiltdownMan

    Thanks. I agree with the article.

    The safe vs dangerous distinction comes from having parents who never let their kids explore the world outside the home or spend time unsupervised with friends. For them, everything unfamiliar is dangerous.

    When these kids become adults and get a taste of freedom, they don’t know how to deal with the unfamiliar. They’ve never developed the thick skin necessary to deal with others who make them “uncomfortable.” That’s why you hear constant whining about “microaggressions” and a yearning for a “safe space.”

  216. Russ says:
    @Jack D

    For instance, Washington University has rebranded it as The [Blank] Monologues to be inclusive of all genitals, while the three other schools completely canceled it.

    That’s a lie. They have no intention of being inclusive of heterosexual male genitals. The rebranding is just so that chicks with dicks don’t feel left out.

    The consummate marketing push by a 21st-century Ivy wannabe. Note: The current editor-in-chief of Science, Holden Thorpe, was previously provost at Washington Univ in St Louis, where his signature move was suspending the men’s soccer team for doing a who’s-hot-who’s-not with pix of the school’s women’s soccer team. He was one of those busy-anus types mouthing it up about Trump hating science, all the while more a politician than Trump ever will be. Something to bear in mind next time a Science publication trumpets a breakthrough.

  217. Russ says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Exactly. The wrong half of the Washington Redskins was renamed. How about New Dakar? Perfectly fitting for the approaching white majority of the city state.

    Much as the twin city to St Paul should now be known as New Mogadishu.

  218. Kronos says:
    @SFG

    True, I think VoxDay pointed out on his blog that they’re two different strands of socialism. That not all socialisms’ are Marxist, but that essentially all Marxist economic thought stems from socialism.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2005/08/anytime-baby.html

    • Replies: @SFG
  219. @Reg Cæsar

    Have you been paying attention this year? The Left has been behaving very brown-shirty. Comparison to fascism, especially the pre-power variety, is most apt.

    “When fascism comes to America, it will be called antifa(scism).” Never truer than now.

    Mobs going around doing a bit of iconoclasm against those they dislike isn’t something specifically ‘brown shirty’, it’s been the prerogative of people with all kinds of different end goals throughout history. What’s more worth focusing on is what they’re trying to do with their actions, not the action itself. I’m sure if the American Revolution somehow happened after WWII the British press would portray it as something somehow ‘brown-shirty’ and some British ‘John Gold(not berg)’ jingoist would write a book about ‘Liberty Nazis’ or something stupid.

    & I’m sure to the Antis the Proud Boys et al are behaving ‘very brown shirty’, and indeed Blackshirt groups (and their precursors like the Freikoprs – hardly ‘left wing’ mobs!) in interwar Europe were often formed to counter Communist mobs, so that analogy does hold better in some ways. Which is partly why I think it’s a mistake to always anchor these things back in the 1930s and Those Evil Nazis, because the label will fit just as well (or better) to anyone on ‘our’ side at the end of the day.

    The ‘when fascism comes to America it will be called Antifascism’ quote is just dumb to me, 1950s and before America also had its own strict codes of behaviour that could see doors closed (sometimes very firmly) if you did or said doing certain things, was that Fascism? Well the Lefties say it was, funnily enough, and that idea provides the fuel for their Immivasion-LGBTQ-BLM-WTF movement to this day, just look at depictions of 1950s American in movies like Pleasantville or The Shape of Water to see what they think about that time…

  220. Kronos says:
    @dfordoom

    The neoliberal economic order of today is the result of changes forced by the Right since the 1970s. And the Right was in favour of destroying the manufacturing sector.

    Do you have any favorite books on that subject?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  221. El Dato says:

    “Dont let the beef curtains hit you on the way out”

    Washington University has rebranded it as The [Blank] Monologues to be inclusive of all genitals, while the three other schools completely canceled it.

    I hope parts of the digestive system is not counted in the [blank]. But who knows!

  222. @Anon

    ‘I talk, you listen’.

    Btw, how about ‘Female Penis Monologue’?

    Too obvious. Wouldn’t work. The metaphors need some sort of de-focussing to work as real goal-getters, so to speak.

  223. @Abe

    “Abe’s Law of Female Artists: the less a woman artist has left to say, the more she begins leaning on the grossest aspects of her biology.

    “Corollary of Abe’s Law: If she never had anything to say, she starts off that way.”

    I like it. It explains why Patti Smith’s and Liz Phair’s first albums were so good, and why their successive records all disappointed (I’m being polite).

    Contra: Joni Mitchell, The Hissing of Summer Lawns (1975). Her seventh studio album, maybe her best, and she still had plenty in the tank.

    • Replies: @black sea
  224. @dfordoom

    “Internal faction fights within the Left are bloodthirsty take-no-prisoners affairs.”

    Yes. Anyone doubting this should read up on the internecine conflict between Spanish Socialists and Communists that precipitated the Spanish Civil War.

  225. @Donald A Thomson

    “I’ve never known a misogynist homosexual”

    Really? I’ve encountered many, at least in print and online.

  226. SFG says:
    @Colin Wright

    There’s the ‘Castizo Futurist’ idea–you’ll have a white majority if you include people with some Latin American ancestry. Trump may more or less have hit on this by accident. Forney (I think that’s who came up with it) tosses some Nazi stuff in there, but I think you’d probably just see them turn into conservative Christians.

    Uruguay and Argentina are whiter than we are at this point.

  227. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    Vox Day lost me with all the stuff lately about pedophiles and Satan. I’m obviously not fond of pedophiles but I doubt they’re behind everything. I’m more afraid of people who do insider trading at this point. (Of course, I have no kids.)

    That and his whole alpha-beta-gamma-sigma-delta-omega classification…well, he has some useful gradations of ‘alpha’ and has a slot for both the average guy (delta) and the whiny male feminist (gamma), but his ‘sigma’ idea struck me as a way to prove he was still a manly man despite not being famous or something. (See, I’m not an alpha, I’m a sigma, it’s edgier!)

    I’m not saying he never said anything smart…Helen Smith was still OK with quoting him in the 2013 Men on Strike. And I do like his attempts to make a place for right-wing sci-fi with Tor and Daw going full woke. But lately he’s gotten into some strange places.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Kronos
  228. SFG says:
    @R.G. Camara

    You do realize guys taking advantage of women who are drunk or on drugs is one of the main complaints behind this latest misandric ‘#MeToo’ spasm, right? Say what you will about me I never boinked anyone drunk. The one time I had a girl get throwing-up drunk on me at a party I hailed a cab and dropped her at her house, then spent the next two days terrified of the cops showing up if she decided to lie about what happened. (She then emailed me and asked me for another date.)

    Nonetheless, I think you’re right. (Minor nitpick: I think it’s the third wave in the 90s (remember the Spice Girls?) that was sex positive, the second wave in the 70s was pretty sex-negative–Dworkin, MacKinnon, and the like.) I remember they were going on about Father’s Day at Jezebel and of course they all had terrible things to say. I wondered what happened to women with positive relationships with their dads, and realized they probably don’t write for Jezebel.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Nico
    , @dfordoom
  229. black sea says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    I once stumbled across a street interview with Patti Smith on Saturday Night Live. I thought it was some kind of satire of a mumbling, wannabe East Village artist, and this was after I’d heard of and listened with pleasure to songs by Patti Smith.

    Her rendition of Springsteen’s Because the Night is the best version I’ve heard.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  230. @Jack D

    Brittanee’s angry at God;
    She’s “uncomfortable” in her own bod.
    Is she man…or a maid?
    Just drink the Kool-Aid
    From the Circular Censorship Squad.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  231. @black sea

    I’m especially hard on Patti because she — even at the very start of her major label career — has always taken herself very seriously, and believed herself to be a major figure. She’s not, although her influence has been significant, for good (Cat Power, Sleater-Kinney, PJ Harvey, Mary Timony’s various bands) and bad (Michael Stipe, whose Patti-worship nearly ruined a number of decent R.E.M. records).

    As for “Because the Night,” a fine pop single, it owed a lot more to co-writer Springsteen and producer Jimmy Iovine, who gave the song that Spector-like Wall of Sound bigness that made it stand out on the radio. (Those drums behind Patti’s “touch me now, touch me now, touch me now,” right before the final chorus: pure Hal Blaine, from “Be My Baby.”)

    None of this detracts from the magnificence of Horses, 45 years later. I happened to put it on a few days ago, and was reminded that for an album that’s not very loud, it rocks. She couldn’t match it, much less top it, but few could. Her problem is the one Nik Cohn identified in 1969, way back in his classic history of pop, Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom (Cohn was writing about Phil Spector, but his words apply to anyone who hits big early in his or her career): “When you’ve made your million, when you’ve cut your monsters, when your peak has just been passed, what happens next? What about the fifty years before you die?”

    • Replies: @SFG
  232. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with you – most Puerto Ricans are not fully African. But they are almost all a LITTLE African. There was no one drop rule or color line in Puerto Rico so almost everyone (other than recent immigrants) has a little African blood, some more than others. However, people with ZERO African blood are rare, unlike the situation in the US where blacks are mostly mixed but most white people are fully white.

    The cartoon of course is an exaggeration for effect. The point of the cartoon is that Puerto Ricans see themselves as being lighter/whiter than they really are, even if they are not fully African looking to begin with. The same thing goes on with Mexicans. I know a Mexican guy who thinks of himself as “German” because he had a German grandfather, but to look at him, he looks like any other Mexican mestizo, in fact quite brown and not at all German looking. He chooses to focus on his German quarter and not his Mestizo 3/4s, just the way Kamala focuses on her black quarter. It’s just that in some countries the dynamic is reversed – you have a flight TO white rather than a flight FROM white.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  233. @SaneClownPosse

    Wrong. The CRA was signed in 1977, but it was BJC who first used it to bully banks into making loans to “under served” communities, completely ignoring the fact that the only color banks care about is green.

    Grifters like Harold Raines and Jamie Gorelick at Fannie Mae bought up much of these crap loans and made millions in bonuses before the whole thing fell apart.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/community_reinvestment_act.asp

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  234. Jack D says:
    @SFG

    spent the next two days terrified of the cops showing up if she decided to lie about what happened.

    I really think your fear was misplaced.While college authorities operate kangaroo courts, our criminal justice system still operates according to traditional (high) burdens of proof. In order for the police to become interested, the woman would have had, at a minimum, to present herself at a hospital for an examination, which would of course not shown anything. Even if the rape kit was positive, the police are well aware of the burden of proof in he said/she said situations and are reluctant to pursue such cases. Juries are not made up of 100% SJWs and are reluctant to convict based purely on a woman’s testimony that she was too drunk to consent. Lack of consent has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The few cases of drunk rape that have been successfully prosecuted in the criminal courts almost always involve egregious circumstances such as the perpetrator being caught by third parties doing it in a public setting.

    Yes, there are on rare occasions nightmarish confluences of a crazy woman and a politically ambitious prosecutor, etc. These cases tend to be high profile precisely because they are so rare. Most women don’t pursue legal action in such circumstances. Especially if you make them breakfast and call them for a 2nd date. If the woman really has no memory of what happened then her memory of whether it was a positive or negative experience is largely formed later.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
  235. @Jim Don Bob

    You’re largely correct about the CRA, and its baleful effect on the economy when Bubba pressured banks into making imprudent loans, and the attendant crony capitalism of Fannie Mae.

    One minor quibble: the black chief executive of Fannie Mae was Franklin Raines. (Were you thinking of former major league baseball player Harold Baines?)

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  236. Odin says:
    @Anon

    And while we’re at it…

    [Scholars] were convinced the earth was flat

    Lectures in the medieval universities commonly advanced evidence in favor of the idea that the Earth was a sphere.

    [Wikipedia, citing Grant, Edward: Planets. Stars, & Orbs: The Medieval Cosmos, 1200–1687, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994]

  237. Kronos says:
    @SFG

    The man speaks the truth!

    He’s the only one to point out that David Foster Wallace’s “Infinite Jest” book was largely incoherent and never met the hype!

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/04/book-review-infinite-jest.html?m=1

    That alone establishes him as having the brave heart of a lion.

    No longer must anyone suffer in silence reading Wallace’s endless footnotes.

    • Replies: @SFG
  238. @Gary in Gramercy

    I would watch it for free, but not pay. I would never be consciously in a space with such as Miss McGrath. She has so many genitals a hermaphrodite would have *Hole Envy*.

  239. @Dumbo

    My favourites are the ones who don’t have the surgery (always a mess and they can’t be fornicated, I assume–they never ever mention that) and cuss out lesbians for being ‘penis-phobic’ and literally order them to ‘date them’. Well, I wouldn’t like that part either, most lesbians are hysterical because they can’t really pull off their ‘alpha-male’ number.

  240. @MEH 0910

    You won’t find Barbra Streisand singing “I am womanx, you are manx”. Nympho movie stars fortunately sometimes have a lot more power than these little tranny bitches. The first 5 lines are sheer torture.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
  241. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    Slagging DFW is only brave in the intelligentsia around 2000. He’s persona non grata now for pissing off his girlfriends.

    I went over there now. He’s trying to get Mike Pence to throw out the electors and doesn’t seem to have accepted Trump’s loss. “/pol/ is always right”? You mean like with Qanon? I agree with him on a lot of stuff, but he seems to have made some questionable decisions lately. Or maybe he has to keep his fanbase happy now that he’s cancelled. Who knows?

    I’m not that interested in slagging the guy (I save my venom for the NYT editorial page), but I’m not a big fan. His comics are pretty good. Doing what you love?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  242. SFG says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Nobody ever said artists were astute political observers or anything like that. They’re different skills. Does anyone want to hear Stephen Miller sing?

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  243. @SFG

    I agree with you; artists should stay in their lane, and musicians or actors who involve themselves in political matters (of which they typically know little, if anything) tend to fritter away their time and energy better spent on creative pursuits.

    Did anything in my post on Patti Smith suggest otherwise? When I wrote about her influence, I meant strictly musical influence; the last thing I wanted from an R.E.M. album in the 1990’s was Michael Stipe trying to sound like Patti Smith.

    I don’t know if Stephen Miller (not to be confused with Steve Miller, constantly on the charts in the 1970’s with chestnuts like “The Joker, “Take The Money and Run,” and “Jet Airliner”) can sing. But I remember that the late Lee Atwater played a pretty fair blues guitar. Everybody wants to be a rock and roll star.

  244. @Gary in Gramercy

    One minor quibble: the black chief executive of Fannie Mae was Franklin Raines. (Were you thinking of former major league baseball player Harold Baines?)

    You are correct that it was Franklin Raines. He got $50 million in bonuses just before Fannie Mae had to take a $13 billion dollar restatement, but he got to keep the money, unlike the Enron folks, some of whom went to jail over a measly $4 billion. Enron also led to the demise of the accounting firm Arthur Anderson costing several thousand people their jobs. But as we see more and more everyday, laws and consequences are for us little people.

  245. J.Ross says:
    @Kronos

    He’s talking about the corporate sector which today completely owns woke and the “Chamber of Commerce Republicans,” not “the Right,” not say Pat Buchanan. However, the Democrats were hardly opposing any of this, and in sone cases were more destructive.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  246. J.Ross says:
    @SFG

    “pol is always right” is not an assertion of constant accuracy, it is a ritual set response to learning that the “journalist” who penned a piece about Christians being backward (or recognizing your child’s sexuality, or how scary guns are, or how good bugs taste) just happens to belong to a certain tribe.

  247. Nico says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    I’ve never known a misogynist homosexual

    My female friends working in the legal profession, at least, assure me that the worst misogynists they have encountered in the workplace are either women or homosexual men. This makes sense, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see the pattern repeated elsewhere.

    Why would a woman be a misogynist at work? The same reason she’d be cool towards single women in a yuppie bar: competition for the goods. Regardless of what present SJW orthodoxy says, anyone who knows where HR operates in modern North America and Europe understands there is at present a much higher chance that a woman with decisional power in a nonfamily hierarchical structure got it at least in part because of her sex than for a man in the same boat. As with all affirmative action arrangements, to the degree that her actual level of competence is subpar she is self-conscious at some point that she is in fact undeserving of her position. So her insecurity and her jealousy feed into one another and her instinct is to target the threats – which if the company is practicing affirmative action on sex is overwhelmingly female – and weed them out.

    As for why a homosexual man would be a misogynist at work, well… I think the question answers itself.

  248. Nico says:
    @SFG

    You do realize guys taking advantage of women who are drunk or on drugs is one of the main complaints behind this latest misandric ‘#MeToo’ spasm, right?

    So what if it is? Drunk sex or even drugged sex isn’t by definition non-consensual unless the intoxicated party is actually comatose. It’s perfectly possible to give consent while “blacked out” and judgment is impaired so that 1) consent is not registered in the person who consented and not recalled when she or even he “comes to,” and 2) consent may be given to something which would not have been consented to without the purple haze. Even if it such were not the case legally, even the most liberal burden of proof could not credibly establish that a blackout had in fact happened in subjective personal experience. In an age where “between consenting adults” seems to be the only criterion for “moral” versus “immoral” behavior and this at the demand of Hollywood and the legacy media themselves I see no good reason why they should be painting a black portrait of any other behavior.

    Jocelyn C. Stewart writes here specifically of military cases but this single article skewers 99% of the polemics around the topic from the “campus rape” mania of the early 2010s through the Weinstein/”Me Too” outburst. Well worth reading in its entirity:

    What complicates allegations of sexual assault when alcohol consumption has been high is attempts to decipher when the complainant was in fact unconscious or passed out versus when they were operating under a blackout and do not remember the events that led up to consent. For the complainant, there typically is a moment when they become aware of the sexual activity and for them, it feels as though they awaken to the sexual activity already going on before they “came to.”
    ~“Rape cases are difficult to prove” because they should be.

  249. Ed Case says:
    @black sea

    That claim was first made by Dr Zane Kime in his book Sunlight Can Save Your Life

    Sunlight on the genital area during times of day when UV-B is present cause a 200% rise in testosterone levels compared to back exposure.
    No money for Big Pharma in this type of info, one reason why it’s not well known.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  250. @Kolya Krassotkin

    That’s why they call Bill ‘America’s first black president’

  251. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    I’ve seen it from the inside.

    There, I knew it. Confirmation is always handy.

    I’ve never denied it. But I’m Old Left, not New Left. I despise the New Left probably as much as you do. And I despise SJWs as only a member of the Old Left can despise them.

    Internal faction fights within the Left are bloodthirsty take-no-prisoners affairs.

    Lol.
    I’ve told you a million times not to exaggerate…

    I’ve seen a guy who got beaten to a pulp in a left faction struggle. And that was in Australia, not the Soviet Union. So I’m not exaggerating much.

    Merely a falling out among thieves.

    If you start with the prejudice that all leftists are evil then that’s how you’ll see things. If you start with the prejudice that all rightists are evil then the struggle between Trumpists and Never-Trumpers was merely a falling out among thieves.

  252. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Donald A Thomson

    I remembered that I’ve never known a misogynist homosexual

    The entire drag queen thing can be seen as misogyny – it’s basically mocking women.

    Male homosexual misogyny is often subtle. But I don’t think all male homosexuals are misogynists. And not all lesbians hate men.

  253. dfordoom says: • Website
    @SFG

    Nonetheless, I think you’re right. (Minor nitpick: I think it’s the third wave in the 90s (remember the Spice Girls?) that was sex positive, the second wave in the 70s was pretty sex-negative–Dworkin, MacKinnon, and the like.)

    Second wave feminism had both a sex-positive and a sex-negative side. You couldn’t get much more sex-positive than Germaine Greer in the 70s.

    Is Camille Paglia a second wave feminist?

  254. Dissident says:
    @dfordoom

    transgender activism, which really is about men posing as women

    Yep. It’s misogyny on a scale that is almost impossible to conceive of.

    Impossible to conceive

  255. Kronos says:
    @Ed Case

    Would it still work if I put sunscreen on my junk? I don’t want burnt sausage if you catch my drift.

  256. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @black sea

    I tossed this idea at a medical type I know, citing the NY Post. Then was told about a woman who recently had some kind of pelvic-floor surgery and was told to get some sun on the perineum to encourage healing. Light from the sun is way more broad spectrum than anything artificial.

    There are a lot of modalities that were scoffed at for years, getting re-examined today. Time exposure would depend on a lot of things: sun angle, altitude, humidity, etc. Overdoing it would be a bad plan.

    @Kronos
    Sunscreen in general may be questionable, but for sure the skin in those areas is quite delicate and so…don’t do that. Just don’t illuminate it long enough for sunburn.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  257. Kronos says:
    @J.Ross

    Oh I figured that out. I’m just curious which source materials he used to reach those conclusions.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  258. Kronos says:
    @anon

    @Kronos
    Sunscreen in general may be questionable, but for sure the skin in those areas is quite delicate and so…don’t do that. Just don’t illuminate it long enough for sunburn.

    I’ll certainly keep that in mind.

  259. Dissident says:
    @AnotherDad

    For young men, “it tells me what to do and i do it” pretty much covers it.

    Doesn’t that amount to being a slave to one’s base lusts? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

  260. Neoconned says:
    @Desiderius

    Often when I’ve travelled I’ll ask the crazy half crazy(semi coherent) homeless black dude(Tyrone or whatever) for directions if I’m in LA or parts of Houston or Dallas because he’s literally the only 1 who speaks my language…..my Spanish is probably 1st grade level & i stopped asking Asians with thick accents for directions because it makes me even more confused….

  261. @Jack D

    The problem now is that people bypass the law and go straight to social media. We’ve seen that countless times.

  262. @Kronos

    “License to kill?”

    Nope: Those boots are made for walking.

  263. @R.G. Camara

    You’ll never meet a self-described “feminist” who’s not really angry with her father for one or more of the following: (a) leaving the family; (b) molesting her; or (c) not protecting her when she was sexually assaulted.

    Not my experience. I have known “feminists” who are very close to their fathers, and conservative women whose fathers were total dirtbags. Like a lot of choices young people make, I suspect peer pressure has significantly more influence than parents.

    • Replies: @Nico
  264. Nico says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Not my experience. I have known “feminists” who are very close to their fathers, and conservative women whose fathers were total dirtbags. Like a lot of choices young people make, I suspect peer pressure has significantly more influence than parents.

    Key observation here. The most important thing a parent can offer throughout a an offspring’s childhood is a well-exerted power of triage over the friends and peers their child meets. (This of course puts the 86 on just about every public school out there.) Most parents don’t pay nearly enough attention to whom their children hang out with, especially since single motherhood and the two-breadwinner home have come to account for a majority of child-rearing situations in North America.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @Dissident
  265. J.Ross says:
    @Kronos

    Terminology is now showing the effects of generational carelessness. Now instead of misspellings and misused phrases we see the vocabulary come clean away from the changing politics. The other day I was being a Russian hacker spreading misinformation, and an infallible defender of truth, in his reactive sputterings, made a point to include his disgust that I was (apparently) an Evangelical Christian. The wider conversation had not touched on abortion or any Evangelical bonnetbee I am aware of. I honestly don’t think the people calling with David Cross for more political violence actually have separate kinds of Republicans conceptualized, ie, they lump Mitt and Jeb in with Donald.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  266. Dissident says:
    @Kronos

    Goldberg made a great case that fascism was actually a strong left-wing movement and not a right-wing movement at all.

    I’m going to assume that you are not too familiar with Paul Gottfried’s work on this topic.

    As for Vox Day, this is an individual who, among other things:
    – is on record as having advocated that one libelously smear one’s ideological/political opponents by calling them, without any basis whatsoever in fact, “pedophile” (only to then, when finding himself on the receiving end of such a tactic, turn around and cry bloody murder)

    – has been shown to arrogantly pontificate on subjects that he, in reality, knows little about

    – can easily rival Richard Spencer in the self-aggrandizement and commanding a cult of pathetic sycophants categories

    Nonetheless, I am somewhat surprised that Mr. Day would be impressed by a book such as the one in-question by a hack like Jonah Goldberg. But perhaps I shouldn’t be.

  267. Kronos says:
    @J.Ross

    The other day I was being a Russian hacker spreading misinformation, and an infallible defender of truth, in his reactive sputterings, made a point to include his disgust that I was (apparently) an Evangelical Christian.

    Wow, people are still (not bots or CNN anchors) bringing that up?

  268. Dissident says:
    @SFG

    the best way to get laid if you weren’t a linebacker or an alpha in other ways. I suppose if you have left-wing politics (common among young people) and an intermediate level of skill (high enough to avoid pissing them off, low enough that hotter women aren’t available), it may have been an effective strategy in the mid-90s.

    Just as a thought exercise:
    If we were to remove all of your comments for which the kind of lewd, adolescent locker room talk that is exhibited in this one is integral, how many would remain?

    No, you are certainly not alone here in this regard. But of all the posting handles that I recognize as having some familiarity with the associated comments, you easily stand-out as ranking at least near the top for the distinction in-question.

    (To you, as well as to the individual I reference below, and anyone else: Forgive me for taking the liberty of such an admittedly random confrontation. I acknowledge that I have no personal reason to resent or single you out for special censure or humiliation. It is simply my position that comments posted publicly on a forum such as this are fair game for criticism and challenge,

    [MORE]
    even that of a most rigorous variety, as long as it remains substantive, reasonable, responsible; not malicious; and neither gratuitously nor excessively hostile. The wise and prudent individual, it might be noted here, will welcome such criticism and challenge.)

    Particularly charming was your recent telling of how, back in your college days, you refrained from seducing and indulging in sleazy fornication with drunken coeds. You were quite clear, lest anyone quaintly think that such valiant abstention on your part was motivated by any moral or ethical compunctions, that your single concern was saving your own hide from becoming vulnerable to false accusations.

    Perhaps more instructive, though, were the responses that were elicited by said comment of yours. Standing-out in particular was one from an individual who exhibited considerable indignation at the suggestion that a young, virile male be expected to deprive himself of such essential carnal pleasures, and proceeded to counter it with legal arguments. How far, if at all far, are he and any number of others here are from the view that is attacked in the piece linked below?
    Bro-Choice: Guys need abortion because dude, “your sex life is at stake”!

  269. Dissident says:
    @Nico

    The most important thing a parent can offer throughout a an offspring’s childhood is a well-exerted power of triage over the friends and peers their child meets.

    Quite true.

    (This of course puts the 86 on just about every public school out there.)

    And probably most private ones as well, no? At least for the committed, unreformed traditionalist.

    (Might also add that the threat of pernicious influence that is posed by schools is not limited to that from the students but includes the faculty– both on the individual as well as collective levels; both official and unofficial.)

    Most parents don’t pay nearly enough attention to whom their children hang out with, especially since single motherhood and the two-breadwinner home have come to account for a majority of child-rearing situations in North America.

    For the conditions that led to the situation you describe, is unbridled corporate greed and predation, enabled by neoliberal economic policies, not at least as much to blame as anything else ? Ditto for the terrible scourge– one that can easily be a more malign influence upon an impressionable mind than any in-the-flesh relationship or encounter– that the blessings of technology have made largely inexorable.

    • Replies: @Nico
  270. Dissident says:
    @Nico

    Key observation here. The most important thing a parent can offer throughout a an offspring’s childhood is a well-exerted power of triage over the friends and peers their child meets.

    I expressed unqualified agreement with that statement in my initial reply. Upon reflection, I wish to amend my response somewhat by arguing that as critical as exerting control to the extent possible and reasonable over the individuals one’s child spends time and forms relationships with, there is something even more critical: Leading by example; exerting the utmost effort to ensure that one’s conduct at all times and in all places and under all circumstances, illustrates and exemplifies the principles and values one wishes to inculcate in others. Living, breathing, walking, in-real-time example. That is primary and absolutely essential– for anyone who wishes to lead or exert influence upon others.

    It is the most difficult, to be sure, but also the most indispensable.

  271. Nico says:
    @Dissident

    I expressed unqualified agreement with that statement in my initial reply. Upon reflection, I wish to amend my response somewhat by arguing that as critical as exerting control to the extent possible and reasonable over the individuals one’s child spends time and forms relationships with, there is something even more critical: Leading by example

    To be sure, I didn’t want to imply that parents could just go off and laze about once they’ve secured a group of reliable peers for their little tykes. But a kid who comes from a broken home yet happens into a good peer group from early on may be very salvagable, although as you hinted in the next part on that may be in no small part due to benevolent other parents and teachers who assert a positive influence in loco parentis for a large part of the child’s week. Conversely, almost every time I have seen nasty kids from good, upright and loving parents it’s because the kids fell in with the wrong crowd and their parents didn’t take decisive enough action to pull them out.

    I’m not just referring to politics, of course, but the fact that so many children of conservative parents become liberals after high school and (especially) college only underscores the point that what happens when the parent isn’t around is just as important as what happens when he is.

    And probably most private [schools] as well, no? At least for the committed, unreformed traditionalist.

    (Might also add that the threat of pernicious influence that is posed by schools is not limited to that from the students but includes the faculty– both on the individual as well as collective levels; both official and unofficial.)

    Absolutely. And it’s worse than ever, with many formerly solid Catholic or Protestant Christian schools waving the “Woke” banner now. Up until a few years ago I’d have said that the state-run Catholic schools in France were at least “better” than the fully-secularized public schools and they probably still are but after these past few years that much of “better” doesn’t seem to count for much anymore.

    For the conditions that led to the situation you describe, is unbridled corporate greed and predation, enabled by neoliberal economic policies, not at least as much to blame as anything else ?

    I certainly think it is. Marketing students will be familiar with a target demographic called “DINK”: dual income no kids. This is the most coveted segment for consumer-goods peddlers: the (mostly/formally) monogamous couple optimizing rent in a one-bedroom apartment in a large city with no one else to eat up disposable income and the least impetus to scrimp and save. There’s a reason the plutocrats would rather yuppies not marry – and why they have been enthusiastic boosters of LGBT (gay male couple in particular make the picture-perfect DINK in the minds of the lazy).

    Ditto for the terrible scourge– one that can easily be a more malign influence upon an impressionable mind than any in-the-flesh relationship or encounter– that the blessings of technology have made largely inexorable.

    It is notable that Steve Jobs and so many other Silicon Valley moguls have been known to severely limit the screen time their offspring are allowed. The ones who deliberately make us addicted know exactly how and why this addiction is so dangerous. I don’t like to judge because I don’t have children yet and I imagine the temptation to hypnotize a whiny kid with an electronic toy must be overwhelming. Nevertheless, parents who allow minor children any unsupervised access to the Internet or television are courting disaster.

    • Agree: Dissident
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