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Here’s the latest news in the endless scandal I wrote about in Taki’s last year: Pakistani pimps sexually exploiting white English schoolgirls and the British Establishment’s ignoring to avoid helping anti-immigration parties like the BNP. Now there’s an official report on the cover-up in one North England town:

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham (1997 – 2013)

Here are the headlines from the Daily Mail:

Revealed: How fear of being seen as racist stopped social workers saving up to 1,400 children from sexual exploitation at the hands of Asian men in just ONE TOWN

Report found 1,400 children abused between 1997 and 2013 in Rotherham

That’s not Rotterdam, the big port city in Netherlands, that’s Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

The figure is likely to be a conservative estimate of the true scale

Victims terrorised with guns and doused in petrol and threatened with fire

More than a third of the cases were already know to agencies

Author of the report condemned ‘blatant’ failings by council’s leadership

Action blocked by political correctness as staff ‘feared appearing racist’

Majority of victims described the perpetrators as ‘Asian’ men

Leader of Rotherham Council has stepped down with immediate effect

No council employees will receive disciplinary action, leaders state

The exact same story is covered in the New York Times, although arranged to less disturb the preconceptions of its readers. Generally, you can figure out what’s going on from an NYT article if you have strong reading comprehension skills. NYT reporters are mostly first-rate and they tend to care about interesting news. But the Who-Whom rules of Respectable Journalism require that articles about non-whites behaving badly and being allowed to get away with it due to political correctness must be presented in such a fashion that the average subscriber loses interest before getting to the good stuff.

Abuse Cases in British City Long Ignored, Report Says

1,400 Children in Rotherham, England, Were Sexually Abused, Report Says

By KATRIN BENNHOLD AUG. 26, 2014

LONDON — A report released on Tuesday on accusations of widespread sexual abuse in the northern England city of Rotherham found that about 1,400 minors — some as young as 11 years old — were beaten, raped and trafficked from 1997 to 2013 as the local authorities ignored a series of red flags.

Some children were doused in gasoline and threatened with being set on fire if they reported their abusers, the report said, and others were forced to watch rapes and threatened with the same fate. In more than a third of the cases, the victims appear to have been known to child protection agencies, but the police and local government officials failed to act.

Within hours of the report’s publication, the leader of the local government council resigned.

“Having considered the report, I believe it is only right that I, as leader, take responsibility on behalf of the council for the historic failings that are described so clearly in the report, and it is my intention to do so,” said Roger Stone, the leader of the Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council since 2003.

That was a particularly eye-glazing paragraph …

The vast majority of perpetrators have been identified as South Asian and most victims were young white girls, adding to the complexity of the case.

Yes, it’s all very complex …

Some officials appeared to believe that social workers pointing to a pattern of sexual exploitation were exaggerating, while others reportedly worried about being accused of racism if they spoke out. The report accused officials of ignoring “a politically inconvenient truth” in turning a blind eye to men of Pakistani heritage grooming vulnerable white girls for sex.

But it’s just “some officials,” right? No doubt white racist officials …

Finally, after all that hemming and hawing, the NYT reporter gets to actually report:

It was not until 2010 that the first case of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham, a South Yorkshire city of about 250,000 people, made it to court. Five men received long prison sentences for grooming three teenage girls for sex. It was one of several high-profile prosecutions over the past four years that revealed sexual exploitation in cities including Oxford, Rochdale and Derby.

The Times of London later published a series of articles claiming that the local authorities had been aware of several instances of sexual abuse that were not prosecuted. The Rotherham Council eventually commissioned an independent inquiry that led to Tuesday’s report.

Alexis Jay, the author of the report and a former chief inspector of social work, said that vulnerable girls as young as 11 and largely from disadvantaged backgrounds had been brutalized by groups of men.

“They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten and intimidated,” she wrote.

The report described the failures of the political and police leadership as blatant. Even as social workers reported that the sexual exploitation of children was becoming a serious problem in Rotherham, senior managers in the local authority and South Yorkshire police ignored them. When victims came forward, Ms. Jay said, the police often regarded them “with contempt.”

Three earlier reports, published from 2002 to 2006, detailed the abuse, and according to Ms. Jay, “could not have been clearer in the description of the situation in Rotherham.” But the first one was “effectively suppressed” and the other two “ignored,” she said.

So, the last six paragraphs were pretty clear to anyone still paying close attention that yes, indeed, political correctness caused massive amounts of statutory rape. But to end the article, let’s go back to an ambiguous note about how “local Pakistanis leaders” would have been shocked to hear about such things:

Some officials were apparently ordered by their managers to withhold information on the ethnic origin of the abusers, the report said. As a result, no contact was made with local Pakistani leaders for help in identifying gangs that continued to assault and abduct teenagers.

So, when you stop and think about it, it’s really due to white prejudice against Pakistanis, which is the important crime.

Or something.

I wrote last year in Taki’s:

British leaders repeatedly swept the Muslim statutory gang-rapist phenomenon under the rug for over a decade. Way back in 2001, Nick Griffin of the British National Party began to point out that Pakistani pimps in Britain were targeting white girls under 16.

It’s most useful to think of this practice not so much as pedophilia—a bizarre fetish—but as economically rational whoremastering.



Pakistani pimps focus on recruiting very young postpubescent English girls because they are so naïve.

As we’ve seen in recent years, Muslim male-chauvinist cultures that treat females like dirt tend to nurture males who have a knack for living off women’s earnings. Thus, Albanian pimps have come to dominate the European sex-slave trade. And the various Chechen layabouts who have been in the news in America since the Boston bombing have displayed a remarkable gift for getting attractive women to throw their lives away on them.

In contrast, women-respecting Swedes seldom make talented pimps.

In the many Pakistani grooming cases in England, Ali G types would convince silly little white girls that they were their boyfriends, provide them with drugs, then browbeat them into proving their love by having sex at a party with all the pimps’ Uncle Jamaals. …

It might seem insane that this kind of Bronze Age predatory pattern would work so well in a sophisticated country such as England, but that’s exactly why it worked: Noticing patterns is now derided as “stereotyping.”

 
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  1. This goes on in the US every day, over and over, as evidenced by all the stupid white kids or their mothers or grandmother, etc., tending to some non-white child. At least 90% of these white girls in the US were probably just as “vulnerable” as those poor white kids in the UK–it’s all too horrible to think about. We kill and butcher these animals with glee “over there” while our own backyards are open season for every non-White. Why are they among us? How does that work exactly, who does that help? On a more personal level, more concrete level, was a time when white men and fathers and brothers were pretty protective of their women-folk.

  2. If something this repulsive doesn’t create a backlash among white English men (and women) nothing will and there is simply no hope left.

    • Replies: @Curious Reader
    @Anonymous

    The issue of Pakistani sex abuse has been out in the open for a couple of years now, and nothing happened. Lee Rigby was brutally decapitated on the street, and nothing happened. The UK is brimming with bloodthirsty jihadis while Anjem Choudary and many like him are happily sucking on the public teat. Still nothing. And that's just the Islamic stuff. The time to react has come and gone. I do think there's hope, but the UK (and the rest of Europe) will have to get to the brink of destruction for people to wake up. Ugly times ahead. And still I sometimes find it hard to understand how people can be such obedient brainwashed lemmings when the truth is everywhere they look.

  3. Yeah yeah Steve, that’s all well and good but did Manchester United beat Liverpool?

    How these supposedly hard English types aren’t rioting through Paki neighborhoods and beating some ass is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Danindc

    Man U actually got beat by a division 3 team in some match. Funny post on it in Yahoo: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/the-images-that-prove-that-third-division-mk-dons-actually-beat-man-united-4-0-in-the-capital-one-cup-213617670.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory

    , @gu
    @Danindc

    "How these supposedly hard English types aren’t rioting through Paki neighborhoods and beating some ass is beyond me."

    Because being of the same ethnicity as someone does not constitute collective guilt you idiot.

  4. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    let’s go back to an ambiguous note about how “local Pakistanis leaders” would have [been] shocked to hear about such things:

    FIFY.

  5. A lot of UK antiracists on Twitter using the White Rapist Argument:

    Ambreen

    Also ftr I’ve never denied Asian men commit sex offences. What I object to is the image of little white girls being systematically targeted>

    by the savages in some fucked up 20th century crusade. It is the way it is framed as only type of sex offence we should give 2 shits about>

    except that’s exactly they did, and take your “framed as” straw man and cram it.

  6. A good rejoinder to the more retarded corners of the reaction-sphere that have lately been glorifying Islamist rebels like ISIS and Hamas as some sort of role model for modern Western civilization.

  7. @Danindc
    Yeah yeah Steve, that's all well and good but did Manchester United beat Liverpool?

    How these supposedly hard English types aren't rioting through Paki neighborhoods and beating some ass is beyond me.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @gu

  8. @Anonymous
    If something this repulsive doesn't create a backlash among white English men (and women) nothing will and there is simply no hope left.

    Replies: @Curious Reader

    The issue of Pakistani sex abuse has been out in the open for a couple of years now, and nothing happened. Lee Rigby was brutally decapitated on the street, and nothing happened. The UK is brimming with bloodthirsty jihadis while Anjem Choudary and many like him are happily sucking on the public teat. Still nothing. And that’s just the Islamic stuff. The time to react has come and gone. I do think there’s hope, but the UK (and the rest of Europe) will have to get to the brink of destruction for people to wake up. Ugly times ahead. And still I sometimes find it hard to understand how people can be such obedient brainwashed lemmings when the truth is everywhere they look.

  9. “Man U actually got beat by a division 3 team in some match. “

    It’s the Football League Cup (or whatever it is called now), so ManU would have been resting their best players and giving their bench warmers a chance to play (I assume). On the plus side they can now concentrate on the rest of their Premier League season.

  10. “British leaders repeatedly swept the Muslim statutory gang-rapist phenomenon under the rug for over a decade. Way back in 2001, Nick Griffin of the British National Party began to point out that Pakistani pimps in Britain were targeting white girls under 16.”

    Yes and he was prosecuted multiple times for “stirring up racial hatred” or similar trumped up charges.

    There’s good reason why large numbers of people in multiple levels of the government and police would not do anything about this problem – it was official government policy to suppress knowledge of this. If you knew what was good for you, you went along with it. If not, well, that’s the end of your career/pension/etc.

  11. iSteveFan says:

    If something this repulsive doesn’t create a backlash among white English men (and women) nothing will and there is simply no hope left.

    Agreed 100 percent.

    This is so depressing on many levels. The most precious resource of any society are their young girls. What society on earth would allow foreigners to come into their midst and defile their young girls? It is beyond comprehension. It points to a collective mental illness that must be addressed.

    Mao was famous for saying that power flows through the barrel of a gun. Yet white Britons and other Europeans, including good red blooded Americans, are being thoroughly controlled without guns. In fact, at least in America’s case, the highly controlled populace is the most well-armed population on earth. Yet they might as well not even be armed since it hasn’t done them any good, and probably won’t.

    It seems that fifty years of controlling the narrative has so destroyed the basic human instincts in the vast majority of the white populations of the west, that guns are not necessary. No, only the threat of public shame and loss of one’s job seem to be all that is necessary to totally suppress a population. Who would have thought?

    Even the communist nations of Eastern Europe, who did control their populations with the gun, never managed to remove the true human nature of their populations . Yugoslavia might have been peaceful for forty years, but once Tito went, it didn’t take long for the different groups to decide to breakup, and violently breakup at that. The Russians and Ukrainians seem to have plenty of fighting spirit, though I hate to see two Christian groups warring with each other.

    But the point is the peoples of Eastern Europe still have their human passions even after all those years under the thumb of the communists. Yet we see none of this in the West, other than from the non-white groups.

    Where are the human passions in Briton over this incident? …

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you say that this was all hushed up in order for explicitly racist parties like the BNP from gaining any political traction from it. Well, that was a few years ago. The British political scene has changed revolutionary since then. The new kids on there block are UKIP, a party gaining and – keeping – a great deal of political traction in the UK today, to the point it looks likely that UKIP will ultimately hold the balance of power in the 2015 General Election. Unlike the BNP, UKIP is in no way ‘racist’ but it is unashamedly British nationalist and vehemently anti-immigration, it has promised to effectively end all immigration into Britain if elected, that USP was really the guarantor of its popularity and not its scepticism if the EU. This current scandal, the deep instinctive disgust and desire for revenge that it has engendered amongst the English, and they sheer uselessness and treachery of the Labour Party which it has exposed, can only further bolster UKIP. Maybe I’m jumping the gun here, but I can see future British politics as a fight between the English supported UKIP and the black/brown supporting Labour Party, with the Tories effectively vanishing.

  13. It has been remarked that the huge, saturation publicity given to the crimes of Jimmy Savile and other 1970s ‘celebrity nonces’ was an establishment effort to deflect attention away from this massive ethnic dominance rape wave.

  14. If you’ve been reading the paleo-right for a while you’ve come across the term “anarcho-tyranny”. For a long time I didn’t understand what that meant. It seemed like the kind of inane jargon leftists invent. (eg. microaggressions)

    But eventually you begin to see the pattern it describes. That some groups of people are subjected to an all encompassing system of social coercion – the tyranny part. White people are examined under a microscope for any sign of racism, microaggressions, or thoughtcrime: Why did you describe a 300 lb. black man as “burly”? Why aren’t you protesting the police murdering black children? Why are you quoting FBI crime statistics? Why are you noticing things? You’re some kind of racist, aren’t you? Even your baby is racist! And etc etc. ad infinitum.

    Paul Weston quotes Winston Churchill? Get arrested. Geert Wilders makes a movie quoting the Koran? Put him on trial. Pim Fortuyn was assassinated? He probably deserved it.

    But for other groups, like Pakistani immigrants, no rules at all apply. That is the anarchy part. No criticism is allowed. Raping underage girls? Well, we won’t say anything because we don’t want to seem racist. Oh Nick Griffin keeps talking about it? Well that proves he’s a racist. Let’s prosecute him for hate speech.

    Anarcho-tyranny is just another way of referring to the Who Whom? dynamic Steve mentions. For every single moral judgement the left makes, the most basic and fundamental thing to take into account is which racial groups are involved, because that will determine which set of rules to apply.

    It is anti-white bigotry elevated to become the supreme, fundamental moral principle that governs all others.

    Anarcho-tyranny = Who Whom? = Anti-white bigotry

    Conservatives sometimes refer to “racial socialism” but it is more a kind of racial feudalism. Getting the police to do anything about these Pakistani gangs was as hard as getting a 17th Century sheriff to bring charges against an aristocrat for raping a peasant girl. It’s like some modern version of jus primae noctis (right of first night).

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Drake

    Yes, this is what Whiskey's been saying about blacks in the U.S. - no rules. And he's right, but people here keep making fun of him.

  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Peter Hitchens: How I am partly to blame for mass immigration

    It wasn’t because we liked immigrants, but because we didn’t like Britain. We saw immigrants – from anywhere – as allies against the staid, settled, conservative society that our country still was at the end of the Sixties.

    Also, we liked to feel oh, so superior to the bewildered people – usually in the poorest parts of Britain – who found their neighbourhoods suddenly transformed into supposedly ‘vibrant communities’.

    If they dared to express the mildest objections, we called them bigots.

    Revolutionary students didn’t come from such ‘vibrant’ areas (we came, as far as I could tell, mostly from Surrey and the nicer parts of London).

    We might live in ‘vibrant’ places for a few (usually squalid) years, amid unmown lawns and overflowing dustbins.

    But we did so as irresponsible, childless transients – not as homeowners, or as parents of school-age children, or as old people hoping for a bit of serenity at the ends of their lives.

    When we graduated and began to earn serious money, we generally headed for expensive London enclaves and became extremely choosy about where our children went to school, a choice we happily denied the urban poor, the ones we sneered at as ‘racists’.

    What did we know, or care, of the great silent revolution which even then was beginning to transform the lives of the British poor?

  16. We know that ‘anti-racism’ is largely just an elaborate status game in which higher-class whites ostentatiously proclaim how blithely unconcerned they are by the negative impacts of mass immigration, so as to subtly signal that they have the means to insulate themselves from those impacts. The non-whites are mere props in this game, which is essentially a way for one class of whites to project their superiority over other groups of whites, who don’t have the means to insulate themselves and do suffer the myriad negative effects: high unemployment, overcrowded public schools and hospitals, forced relocation away from community to chase meager job opportunities, and now, having their daughters gang-raped by the immigrant communities.
    So the higher-class whites will never express any misgivings about the policy, will never express any genuine concern about the plights of the poorer whites, for fear that an observer might mistake them for one of those déclassé proles. And given that politicians of all parties are drawn almost exclusively from the bien-pensant bourgeouisie, there is no way even an awful series of events and a dreadful policy failure will prompt them to change their ways.

  17. I wrote above that “It is anti-white bigotry elevated to become the supreme, fundamental moral principle that governs all others.”

    Let’s examine this a bit further. People have a hierarchy of moral principles. There are the less important principles (“littering is wrong”), and the more important principles (“murder is wrong.”) Sometimes moral principles come into conflict, and then the more important principle overrides the less important one (eg. you can’t murder someone for littering)

    You would think that “not letting 12-year-old girls be gang raped” and then “doused in petrol and threatened with fire” would be pretty high in that moral hierarchy. Maybe even higher than murder. I mean, if one the fathers of these girls had found out what had been done to his daughter, that she had been raped and then “doused in petrol and threatened with fire”, if he then gets a shotgun and fucking blows those bastards away… from a moral point of view, that guy is a hero.

    But to leftists, there is a moral principle even more important than “not letting 12-year-old girls be gang raped”, and that is what they call “anti-racism”. They were faced with a choice, a dilemma that put these two principles into conflict, and they chose anti-racism.

    If anti-racism is more important to them than not letting 12-year-old girls be gang raped, it is safe to assume it is at the top of their moral hierarchy: their single most important moral principle which will override all others. For instance, “telling the truth” is a moral principle, but what if telling the truth conflicts with anti-racism? Then you lie, even lie to yourself. No crimethink allowed.

    But what if the races had been reversed, in this case or any other case? Would leftist politicians and the media be hiding the truth to prevent stirring up prejudice against whites? Of course not. This means that what they call anti-racism is not really a principled stand against all kinds of hate, it is just anti-white bigotry.

    So we right back to “anti-white bigotry elevated to become the supreme, fundamental moral principle that governs all others.” Their entire outlook on the world, every moral judgement they make, even the thoughts they allow themselves to think, are shaped by anti-white bigotry. Who Whom indeed.

  18. “Rule, Britannia! Britannia rule the waves!
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.”

    Talk about imperial effing backwash.

  19. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation gave the story the same treatment. I actually thought those pesky Satanists from the 1990s must be at it again; for a moment, before the penny dropped.

    On the bright side, obscurantist propaganda can backfire. It’s dupes can be led into traps. They tend to break the attorney’s first rule and ask questions to which they don’t know the answers (because the answers have been shrouded for reasons of good taste.)

  20. 1. Men of color genera sly do not commit sex crimes without extenuating circumstances

    2. Most white girls have a fascination with men of colour

    3. Sex is normal. Getting it is not evil

    4. The girls can say. They did not

    5. We have to consider the role of racism

    • Replies: @JSM
    @Ted

    Effective trolling:

    one star induces boredom in reader

    two stars induces eye rolling in reader

    three stars induces multiple response posts from reader

    five stars induces reader to do damage to own 'puter


    Ted: one star

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  21. Serious question: where were the girls’ dads in all this? Hard to imagine that out of 1400 cases not one noticed something strange going on with their daughters, and did something about it?

  22. Reading details is even more horrific: Fathers were actually arrested and imprisoned for trying to rescue their daughters from the abusing/pimping households to which clueless or satanically evil “social workers” had confined them. Of course, this is all playing out amongst the lower and working classes so the upper class twits who are still running the UK don’t give a damn.

  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Now that it’s come out what’s the next step? Will those who willfully turned a blind eye to it all suffer any consequences? If so will they contain it at the lowest possible level and blame it all on the low level workers? Sacrificing your own people on the pyramid of PC is about as reprehensible as it can get. Here in the US we have our own coverups of things such as knockout games, male black rape levels of whites and also within the prison system, the downward spiral of education due to governmental meddling in enforcing vibrancy, the financial and physical cost of it all, and so on. There’s a lot of victims out there in the good old US of A for pretty much the same reasons.

  24. On its news show “Morning Edition,” NPR dutifully covers this inconvenient story. It manages to improve upon the NYT playbook described in the OP. Rewriting Steve’s paragraph to fit:

    The exact same story is covered by NPR, although arranged to less disturb the preconceptions of its listeners. Often, you can figure out what’s going on from an NPR story if you have strong listening comprehension skills and are familiar with the background. While public radio reporters aren’t typically first-rate, they do tend to care about interesting news. But the Who-Whom rules of Respectable Journalism require that stories about non-whites behaving badly and being allowed to get away with it due to political correctness must be presented in such a fashion that the average listener loses interest before getting to the good stuff.

    Following the NPR-PC stylebook, reporter Ari Shapiro buries certain details while eliding others. Halfway through the segment, he mentions that the abusers are “of Pakistani descent.” (“Gee,” the alert listener might think. “I wonder if they’re Muslim?”) But Shapiro forgets to mention the key fact about the pimps’ targets: that they were white girls.

    The Force is strong with this one.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @ic1000

    I wonder if my comment (along the lines of my 1:07pm here, supra) at Morning Edition's website will withstand moderation.

    Replies: @ic1000

  25. It all started the year Tony Blair go elected Prime Minister and opted to open the floodgates to loyal Labour voting Muslims.

  26. What’s almost sadder than that this happened is that the public and police officials who let it go on have neither the integrity to resign or the conscience to commit suicide.

  27. @ic1000
    On its news show "Morning Edition," NPR dutifully covers this inconvenient story. It manages to improve upon the NYT playbook described in the OP. Rewriting Steve's paragraph to fit:

    The exact same story is covered by NPR, although arranged to less disturb the preconceptions of its listeners. Often, you can figure out what’s going on from an NPR story if you have strong listening comprehension skills and are familiar with the background. While public radio reporters aren't typically first-rate, they do tend to care about interesting news. But the Who-Whom rules of Respectable Journalism require that stories about non-whites behaving badly and being allowed to get away with it due to political correctness must be presented in such a fashion that the average listener loses interest before getting to the good stuff.

    Following the NPR-PC stylebook, reporter Ari Shapiro buries certain details while eliding others. Halfway through the segment, he mentions that the abusers are "of Pakistani descent." ("Gee," the alert listener might think. "I wonder if they're Muslim?") But Shapiro forgets to mention the key fact about the pimps' targets: that they were white girls.

    The Force is strong with this one.

    Replies: @ic1000

    I wonder if my comment (along the lines of my 1:07pm here, supra) at Morning Edition‘s website will withstand moderation.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @ic1000

    Yesterday, I wrote upthread,


    I wonder if my comment (along the lines of my 1:07pm here, supra) at Morning Edition‘s website will withstand moderation.
     
    It did! That encouraged me to take issue with another commenter's contention that the abusers' religious affiliation is irrelevant.

    @ Chris Kirschner
    > [The perpetrators'] religious affiliation is irrelevant in this case.

    If the objective is to understand the flourishing of sexual abuse in these English towns over the past two decades, it would be rash to quickly rule out any possible factor. In her report, Prof. Jay notes, "Several [police and social care] staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so." (page 5).

    If fear of PC-inspired backlash contributed to this disaster, then the relevant aspects of the abusers and the victims... are relevant. Religion included.

    Back in 2013, Steve Sailer suggested that this sorry episode could be seen as a clash of two cultures. The Pakistani immigrants' is honor-based, clannish, patriarchal, and Muslim. They viewed the nominally-Christian, nuclear-family-based culture of poorer whites with puzzlement, then disdain.


    Strikingly, the Pakistani pimps and johns seem astonished that anybody would object to their behavior. If the girls’ parents cared about protecting their daughters, in their view, they would keep them locked up at home like good Muslims do.

    The pimps seemed convinced that since their victims’ families haven’t organized lethal vendettas against them like any honorable Pakistani family would, they must not have cared.

    Moreover, since the English people hadn’t carried out mass communal violence, such as burning down Pakistani neighborhoods in the time-honored South Asian manner, clearly they didn’t mind.

    And if the English government didn’t want Pakistanis to act Pakistani, they wouldn’t let them into England, now would they?
     

    Is this the heart of the matter? Maybe, maybe not. Even getting to the point of asking the question requires stronger reporting than Mr. Shapiro has provided.
     
    After it vanished, I submitted

    At 12:41pm PDT on 8/28/14, I posted a civil, on-topic, 285-word response to Chris Kirschner's assertion that "Their religious affiliation is irrelevant in this case."
    The note "Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by NPR News" preceded the disappearance of that comment. How will this one will fare?
     
    Still in existence, at the moment.
  28. All I can say is: take back your country, England. Otherwise this is acceptable.

  29. How much do you want to bet that the “social workers” were also “Asian.”

    • Replies: @Keith Vaz
    @flyingtiger

    And the positive discrimination clowns at the CPS.

    , @Anonymous
    @flyingtiger

    When a 13 year old was brought in to the police to make a statement she received a text message that her sister was held captive and that she should not make a statement. She did not make a statement.

    How did anyone bar the police and social workers know where she was and how was her number obtained?

    Baby P was the name of a murder victim who was seen numerous times and an incompetent curry rather than casino doctor did not notice his broken back.

    One hand washes the other.

    , @dearieme
    @flyingtiger

    'How much do you want to bet that the “social workers” were also “Asian.”' Maybe they were predominantly Guardian-reading white women.

    Replies: @Keith Vaz

  30. A 2004 Channel 4 documentary on “grooming” of white girls was famously pulled after the police said it could start violence. Perhaps the upcoming local elections were a reason too :

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1462413/Race-fears-halt-film-on-Asian-sex-grooming.html

    “Colin Cramphorn, the chief constable, raised fears of a repetition of the race riots which erupted in Bradford three years ago. In a letter to Mark Thompson, Channel 4’s chief executive, he said the documentary could lead to “community disorder”.”

    The Guardian seemed to confirm this :

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/aug/09/channel4.otherparties

    “Then the BNP hijacked the issue. Channel 4 called Hall to say that an advert for the film had appeared on the BNP’s website, describing it as a “party political broadcast” on their behalf. “I felt numb,” Hall says. “The BNP had never even seen a single frame of the film.” Groups such as Unite Against Fascism, the 1990 Trust, and the National Assembly Against Racism began to flood Channel 4 with requests to delay transmission. The Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, Colin Cramphorn, joined the call, and Channel 4 complied. Both the police and Channel 4 stressed that the issue was the timing, so close to local and European elections. “

    IIRC parents in Oxford who told the police that Asian gangs were abusing their daughters were threatened with prosecution under the race relations act !

  31. This has been noted many times but bears repeating: they are not Asian rapists they are muslim rapists. They are not hindus nor sikhs. I don’t know about this particular town but in general the phenomenon includes African muslims and even a few white converts. Yet the media would rather slander non-muslim Asians by association than say anything negative about muslims.

  32. Bad taste Ted. Save your trolling for another occasion.

  33. You may be interested to read that in this very same town, 3 Eastern European children were removed from the care of their foster parents because of the latters’ affiliation with euroskeptic party UKIP. The council finally apologized for the handling of the case after seven months, but reaffirmed that it was nevertheless in the children’s best interests.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328341/Council-removed-foster-children-parents-Ukip-membership-discovered-finally-apologises-handling-case-seven-months-on.html

  34. Although I have no particular knowledge about this incident, the numbers simply don’t pass the smell test. 1400? At numbers that large, you don’t need the authorities to take action. At least a few of these girls would have relatives that would take the law into their own hands.

    After the Samali Mam exposure, every sensationalist sex trafficking headline elicits skepticism from me, at least. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/30/somaly-mam-holy-saint-and-sinner-sex-trafficking-251642.html

    Objective researchers can’t find any material number of sex slaves, much less brutally tortured and beaten ones.

    In Cambodia, there is not only a severe shortage of bona fide sex slaves, there is also a shortage of orphans: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/world/asia/cambodian-activists-fall-exposes-broad-deception.html

    And an objective, detailed study of Cambodian trafficking that has been released long enough that no one, especially Nick Cristof has ANY excuse of being ‘shocked’ by the deception. http://www.no-trafficking.org/reports_docs/estimates/uniap_cb_estimates_report.pdf

    There is also a lot of conflation of trafficking in general and sexual slavery.
    “Trafficking in persons (TIP) occurs in every country. It is based on economics, on the desire to profit from the work of others without providing just compensation to the workers.” And most trafficking has nothing to do with sex. Just vanilla economic abuse.

    Consider this report: http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/168-juveniles-recovered-in-nationwide-operation-targeting-commercial-child-sex-trafficking

    This report conflates juveniles with children, “commercial child sex trafficking throughout the United States” with prostitution, &c.

    To a casual reader who has seen one, if not many TV exposes regarding underage prostitution, &c, it is easy to confuse juvenile prostitutes with child sex slaves.

    The fact that the FBI included enforcement actions in 106 cities across 54 FBI field divisions nationwide and only found 168 juvenile prostitutes is shocking. That is 1.5 per city — and it is just under age prostitutes. And nowhere do the FBI indicate that any have been transported.

    ““Child sex traffickers create a living nightmare for their adolescent victims,” said Leslie R. Caldwell, Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice.”

    How do child traffickers create a living nightmare for adolescents? I suppose because adolescents become children when it adds sensationalism. And local, street level pimps get promoted to trafficking masterminds, because simply being a pimp isn’t sensational enough.

    Of course, I am against all the bad stuff — but isn’t it bad enough without calling underage prostitutes child sex slaves?

    As far as the news story — I am sure that it happened and the perps should be severely punished. It is simply unbelievable that it happened 1400 times. That is 14 years of white cops killing blacks.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @FWIW

    I'm not going to defend the 1400 number. However, at least 2 fathers attempted to retrieve their daughters but were arrested:

    "The report identified two separate cases where fathers who had tracked their daughters down and were trying to remove them from houses where they were being abused, were themselves arrested."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11057622/Rotherham-child-sexual-exploitation-Victims-raped-beaten-and-doused-in-petrol-if-they-threatened-to-tell.html

    Also, the Pakistanis were targeting vulnerable girls as such they likely had fewer adult male defenders. Moreover, the Pakistani gangs were likely big and had high social cohesion compared to the atomized poor English families.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  35. Keith Vaz [AKA "D\'Marco Mobley"] says:
    @flyingtiger
    How much do you want to bet that the "social workers" were also "Asian."

    Replies: @Keith Vaz, @Anonymous, @dearieme

    And the positive discrimination clowns at the CPS.

  36. @Danindc
    Yeah yeah Steve, that's all well and good but did Manchester United beat Liverpool?

    How these supposedly hard English types aren't rioting through Paki neighborhoods and beating some ass is beyond me.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @gu

    “How these supposedly hard English types aren’t rioting through Paki neighborhoods and beating some ass is beyond me.”

    Because being of the same ethnicity as someone does not constitute collective guilt you idiot.

  37. I forgot to mention that the FBI press release failed to mention the race of either the females (be they children, adolescents, or juveniles) or the pimps.

    I have a pretty good idea.

    But not many people would get all that worked up over black pimps and black under age prostitutes.

  38. 1. Men of color genera sly do not commit sex crimes without extenuating circumstances

    I.e., living in a country run by whites, rather than their own kind, where they’d be castrated or strung up?

    I think there’s little written about sex crime and sexual perversion in non-white countries because it’s so normal in those places, and because much of what whites police for is not policed for in non-white countries.

  39. The Labor party is wholly to blame for England’s immigration nightmare and disaster. Why the English don’t just vote for the BNP and kick these aliens out I will never understand.

  40. “Serious question: where were the girls’ dads in all this?”

    Nowhere. Family breakdown in the UK is even more progressed than the US. Most of those girls probably never even knew their fathers.

    It’s worth noting that Labour bigwig Margaret Hodge (real name Margaret Eve Oppenheimer) presided over a similarly horrific reign of terror in north London during the 80s.

    That’s one classic British name right there, Oppenheimer…

  41. Here in the US we have our own coverups of things such as knockout games, male black rape levels of whites and also within the prison system

    The media obfuscates these things, yes. And the justice system under-prosecutes and under-investigates things like black hate crimes against whites. But I’ve never read anything that led me to believe they don’t take rape seriously. They gladly investigate and lock up non-white perps, AFAICT. As for prison rape, it’s a storm in a teacup. Dig down into the stats and you’ll see what I mean. The vast majority of men being buggered in prison want to be buggered, and genuine rape is very rare – a tiny fraction of a percent of inmates are raped (I’m going by surveys of ex-cons, so YMMV). Personally, I think the whole thing is a propaganda campaign to make respectable types terrified of getting out of line.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Svigor


    And the justice system under-prosecutes and under-investigates things like black hate crimes against whites. But I’ve never read anything that led me to believe they don’t take rape seriously.
     
    In the comments to several blogs, perhaps even this one, I've read what purport to be accounts from someone with first-hand knowledge of the San Francisco DA's office in the 1960s. Supposedly, Black-on-White rapes were systematically ignored for political reasons.
    , @dcite
    @Svigor

    Interesting. I worked with a gay guy -- flamer, he had a "husband" -- whose father had been an official for prisons, and often visited the prison unannounced. He communicated with the guards and had a pretty good grip, so to speak, of what went on. He said that prison rape was pretty rare, and prison sex, if it occurred, must have been a discreet affair.

    Replies: @Southfarthing

  42. Trotsky sure knew what he was doing when he invented the word “racism”.

    • Replies: @Southfarthing
    @Frank Discussion


    Trotsky sure knew what he was doing when he invented the word “racism”.
     
    "Racism" appears to have been first used by the Union Army and Indian Wars colonel Richard Henry Pratt in 1902, 31 years before Trotsky used it in 1933.

    Pratt used it as part of his belief that it was a noble cause to forcibly assimilate Native Americans into mainstream U.S. culture:


    Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.
     

    Replies: @Southfarthing

  43. Drake, yes. I’ve read enough of lib writing, and “conversed” with enough libs, to know that “anti-racism” is at the pinnacle of their moral hierarchy. It’s the least-negotiable lib value. They will throw everything else under the bus in support of it.

  44. If I were him I would fear violence rather than denunciation. Why didn’t he just say he feared violence? If he did he would be called a racist.

    As a lesser note he probably viewed young poor white girls as bimbos who would have done the same things even if South Asian immigrants were not present. I sort of agree with that kind of reasoning. For some reason each generation is shocked that the youth discover sex and that some discover they can use sex to get what they want.

    DM article covers the violence associated with sexual grooming in a gang environment.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734694/It-hard-appalling-nature-abuse-child-victims-suffered-1-400-children-sexually-exploited-just-one-town-16-year-period-report-reveals.html

  45. Given that the UK’s “ huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity’,” these rapes should be viewed not as an unintended consequence of ideology and political correctness, but as intentional.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @C. Van Carter

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in "People," Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Art Deco, @ben tillman

  46. The good news is that the Asian gang thing is “only one model” of abuse. According to the Deputy Children’s Commissioner there are plenty of white abuse gangs operating in *cough* and in *look ! a squirrel!*

    “Miss Berelowitz said the ‘model’ of Asian men targeting white girls was just one of ‘a number of models’, and warned that if investigators concentrated on those patterns, victims could fall through the net.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236045/Anger-sex-abuse-report-Sue-Berelowitz-turns-blind-eye-Asian-gangs.html

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @flyingtiger
    How much do you want to bet that the "social workers" were also "Asian."

    Replies: @Keith Vaz, @Anonymous, @dearieme

    When a 13 year old was brought in to the police to make a statement she received a text message that her sister was held captive and that she should not make a statement. She did not make a statement.

    How did anyone bar the police and social workers know where she was and how was her number obtained?

    Baby P was the name of a murder victim who was seen numerous times and an incompetent curry rather than casino doctor did not notice his broken back.

    One hand washes the other.

  48. Look at the racial demographics for Rotherham, bottom of page 7. It’s shocking.

    http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/jsna/download/downloads/id/38/rotherham_demographic_profile_-_2013

    So, 1400 cases for a population of 250,000.

    1 out of every 200 people was an abused teenage girl?

    Now let’s look at the slice of the population that is White Irish/Other: 19% or 47,500 people.

    So: 1,400/47,500 — a whopping 3% (conservative estimate) of white folks in Rotherham are teenage girls being molested by immigrants.

    Good work, England. You’ve really made up for all that colonization you did. Wow.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @nobody

    nobody (6:02pm) -- according to your link, the 2001 and 2011 Censuses showed about 46,000 people in Rotherham between the ages of 10 and 24 (page 1). Thus, about 11,000 teenage girls in both those years (matches graph on page 5). In 2011, 93% (Figure 1.9) of the population was classified as White, so about 10,000 White teenaged girls in any given year.

    If we guess that each of the 1,400 identified girls was an actively-abused teenager during three of the 16 years covered by the report (1997-2013), that's ~260 out of 10,000, or about 3%. Add to that the former victims -- girls who had been discarded by their pimps, escaped, or moved away. Also add those victims who remain unknown to the authors of the report. So, perhaps 6%-15% of white Rotherham teen girls had first-hand experience of this abuse, at any given time.

    Replies: @nobody

  49. living in a country run by whites, rather than their own kind, where they’d be castrated or strung up?

    A good point. Too many Arabs, Muslims, and “Asians” seem to believe that if there are no goose-stepping religious police, then they can relax their morals. Especially the low-IQ ones. In places where such immigrants tend to professionals, they are more law-abiding, and ethnic rape gangs are unknown.

    Could it be that the low-IQ ones are more racist, and see whites as non-persons? Add to that the “Dhimmi” code of Islam. Thus, they don’t respect white cops, white judges (even more when they hand out wimpy slap-on-the-wrist sentences), white teachers – and young white girls.

    I think there’s little written about sex crime and sexual perversion in non-white countries

    Let’s not lump them all together. Japan is not Thailand. Rural Brazil is not Pakistan.

    because it’s so normal in those places,

    In the way that our feminized, anti-sex culture is normal?

    and because much of what whites police for is not policed for in non-white countries.

    That contradicts your “Castrated or strung up” point.

  50. @Frank Discussion
    Trotsky sure knew what he was doing when he invented the word "racism".

    Replies: @Southfarthing

    Trotsky sure knew what he was doing when he invented the word “racism”.

    “Racism” appears to have been first used by the Union Army and Indian Wars colonel Richard Henry Pratt in 1902, 31 years before Trotsky used it in 1933.

    Pratt used it as part of his belief that it was a noble cause to forcibly assimilate Native Americans into mainstream U.S. culture:

    Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.

    • Replies: @Southfarthing
    @Southfarthing

    Also, the first coinage was really in the form of the word "racialism," dated back to 1871.

    "Racialism" was used in the same way as "racism," and was later replaced by it.

    "Racialism [was] often used early 20c. in a British or South African context."

  51. “Serious question: where were the girls’ dads in all this?”

    The pimps deliberately preyed on girls who were raised by single moms, in which the dad was absent. I.e. the root of so many social ills, although HBD folks are in denial about that (perhaps to justify their own irresponsible behavior)

  52. @Southfarthing
    @Frank Discussion


    Trotsky sure knew what he was doing when he invented the word “racism”.
     
    "Racism" appears to have been first used by the Union Army and Indian Wars colonel Richard Henry Pratt in 1902, 31 years before Trotsky used it in 1933.

    Pratt used it as part of his belief that it was a noble cause to forcibly assimilate Native Americans into mainstream U.S. culture:


    Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.
     

    Replies: @Southfarthing

    Also, the first coinage was really in the form of the word “racialism,” dated back to 1871.

    “Racialism” was used in the same way as “racism,” and was later replaced by it.

    “Racialism [was] often used early 20c. in a British or South African context.”

  53. 1,400 Children in Rotherham, England, Were Sexually Abused, Report Says

    I saw that headline at Google News and assumed it was just another case of child porn and pedophilia which is so rampant among the majority population of North America and Western Europe. Take a look:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=child+porn&oq=child+porn&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.3491.8417.0.9396.10.8.0.2.0.0.430.2168.1j1j3j1j2.8.0…0.0…1ac.1.Jpd7IoopfP4

    Turns out the perps are pakis not whites and the victims are teenagers not children…

  54. I couldn’t have put it better (and didn’t)

    Even if the numbers offend the smell test, why not follow an outrageous denial of a serious problem with a huge exaggeration.

    The main difference between the UK and the US is that the US is much more competitive and entrepreneurial. We have activists of all varieties starving for a scandal involving something salacious. And nothing beats abusive sex with young girls. Compared to normal social problems, this is the mother lode.

    Even though the US may be politically correct enough to try hard to ignore the obvious — this is too good to pass up. Plus, political correctness only denies what everyone knows.

    Plus, a single STORY is more compelling than any statistic. Lisa Ling’s America? On it in a heartbeat. Frontline — them too. Or Nancy Grace or Fox News or any and all media.

  55. Frost writes…

    “The white slave trade was different in a second way. Most black slaves were destined for physical labor on plantations. There was thus a stronger preference for men over women. In contrast, white slaves were used more for domestic service, particularly concubinage and marriage. There was thus a stronger preference for women, as reflected in the sex ratio of the slave population: black slaves were predominantly male, and white slaves predominantly female. Furthermore, while blacks of both sexes sold for the same price, Russian and Circassian women fetched 50% more than men of the same nationality. (Verlinden, 1977, pp. 211, 224, 306, 315, 330-331, 460, 517; see also Frost, 1990). This price differential continued until the end of white slavery. A mid-19th century report from Turkey states that a “trained, strong, black slave” would cost 4,000 to 5,000 piasters, whereas “white slave girls of special beauty” were worth 50,000 piasters or more (Lewis, 1990, p. 13). ”

    • Replies: @Bliss
    @D.Jones

    Makes you wonder how many of the euro looking MENAs are descendants of slaves.

    White male slaves in the muslim middle-east and north africa were used as eunuchs, servants, laborers, galley slaves, soldiers.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @AnAnon
    @D.Jones

    The sultans did make use of Christians as advisors and such, they tended to not trust their own people to not stab them in the back(or front). but yeah, the complete lack of any white community in the areas that took more than a million european slaves is fairly damning.

  56. @nobody
    Look at the racial demographics for Rotherham, bottom of page 7. It's shocking.

    http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/jsna/download/downloads/id/38/rotherham_demographic_profile_-_2013

    So, 1400 cases for a population of 250,000.

    1 out of every 200 people was an abused teenage girl?

    Now let's look at the slice of the population that is White Irish/Other: 19% or 47,500 people.

    So: 1,400/47,500 -- a whopping 3% (conservative estimate) of white folks in Rotherham are teenage girls being molested by immigrants.

    Good work, England. You've really made up for all that colonization you did. Wow.

    Replies: @ic1000

    nobody (6:02pm) — according to your link, the 2001 and 2011 Censuses showed about 46,000 people in Rotherham between the ages of 10 and 24 (page 1). Thus, about 11,000 teenage girls in both those years (matches graph on page 5). In 2011, 93% (Figure 1.9) of the population was classified as White, so about 10,000 White teenaged girls in any given year.

    If we guess that each of the 1,400 identified girls was an actively-abused teenager during three of the 16 years covered by the report (1997-2013), that’s ~260 out of 10,000, or about 3%. Add to that the former victims — girls who had been discarded by their pimps, escaped, or moved away. Also add those victims who remain unknown to the authors of the report. So, perhaps 6%-15% of white Rotherham teen girls had first-hand experience of this abuse, at any given time.

    • Replies: @nobody
    @ic1000

    AMac: Thanks for the insight. Looks like I read the chart totally wrong. So the population is 92% white.

    On to your math...

    6 - 15%, for years! And nobody says anything. Every single teacher in the city must have been aware of what was going on. Every single social worker. You cant' trust your children with these people.


    Now this:

    According to wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_parent):
    >"In the United Kingdom, about 1 out of 4 families with dependent children are single-parent families"

    So it there's 10,000 kids and 2,500 are raised by single parents (most likely mothers)... and most of the victims are the daughters of single mothers.

    If you are a white daughter of a single mother in Rotherham your chances of being raped by Pakistani men during your teenage years is (1,400/2,500) = 56%

    Again, Progressives feed the poor to wolves for political gain, while claiming holy intentions. Thank the Tories and their mission to "rub the Right's face in diversity" -- they did a bang-up job here.

  57. @flyingtiger
    How much do you want to bet that the "social workers" were also "Asian."

    Replies: @Keith Vaz, @Anonymous, @dearieme

    ‘How much do you want to bet that the “social workers” were also “Asian.”’ Maybe they were predominantly Guardian-reading white women.

    • Replies: @Keith Vaz
    @dearieme

    I wouldn't be as angry if they were the ones raped!

  58. @Svigor

    Here in the US we have our own coverups of things such as knockout games, male black rape levels of whites and also within the prison system
     
    The media obfuscates these things, yes. And the justice system under-prosecutes and under-investigates things like black hate crimes against whites. But I've never read anything that led me to believe they don't take rape seriously. They gladly investigate and lock up non-white perps, AFAICT. As for prison rape, it's a storm in a teacup. Dig down into the stats and you'll see what I mean. The vast majority of men being buggered in prison want to be buggered, and genuine rape is very rare - a tiny fraction of a percent of inmates are raped (I'm going by surveys of ex-cons, so YMMV). Personally, I think the whole thing is a propaganda campaign to make respectable types terrified of getting out of line.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @dcite

    And the justice system under-prosecutes and under-investigates things like black hate crimes against whites. But I’ve never read anything that led me to believe they don’t take rape seriously.

    In the comments to several blogs, perhaps even this one, I’ve read what purport to be accounts from someone with first-hand knowledge of the San Francisco DA’s office in the 1960s. Supposedly, Black-on-White rapes were systematically ignored for political reasons.

  59. @C. Van Carter
    Given that the UK's " huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'," these rapes should be viewed not as an unintended consequence of ideology and political correctness, but as intentional.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in “People,” Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Steve Sailer


    Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.
     
    Oh no, that can't be true. It has to be slavery, yeah, that's it. It was a delayed legacy of slavery unleashed by the Civil Rights Era.
    , @Art Deco
    @Steve Sailer

    Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Yes it was. Per Ernest van den Haag, if you committed an index crime, the probability you would be incarcerated for it declined by 80% during the period running from 1960 to 1970.

    , @ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer


    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in “People,” Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.
     
    I pulled her book off the shelf in a library once, and I have to say to say that the passages I read were generally coherent and, at times, reasonable.
  60. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @C. Van Carter

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in "People," Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Art Deco, @ben tillman

    Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Oh no, that can’t be true. It has to be slavery, yeah, that’s it. It was a delayed legacy of slavery unleashed by the Civil Rights Era.

  61. Keith Vaz [AKA "D\'Marco Mobley"] says:
    @dearieme
    @flyingtiger

    'How much do you want to bet that the “social workers” were also “Asian.”' Maybe they were predominantly Guardian-reading white women.

    Replies: @Keith Vaz

    I wouldn’t be as angry if they were the ones raped!

  62. @Drake
    If you've been reading the paleo-right for a while you've come across the term "anarcho-tyranny". For a long time I didn't understand what that meant. It seemed like the kind of inane jargon leftists invent. (eg. microaggressions)

    But eventually you begin to see the pattern it describes. That some groups of people are subjected to an all encompassing system of social coercion - the tyranny part. White people are examined under a microscope for any sign of racism, microaggressions, or thoughtcrime: Why did you describe a 300 lb. black man as "burly"? Why aren't you protesting the police murdering black children? Why are you quoting FBI crime statistics? Why are you noticing things? You're some kind of racist, aren't you? Even your baby is racist! And etc etc. ad infinitum.

    Paul Weston quotes Winston Churchill? Get arrested. Geert Wilders makes a movie quoting the Koran? Put him on trial. Pim Fortuyn was assassinated? He probably deserved it.

    But for other groups, like Pakistani immigrants, no rules at all apply. That is the anarchy part. No criticism is allowed. Raping underage girls? Well, we won't say anything because we don't want to seem racist. Oh Nick Griffin keeps talking about it? Well that proves he's a racist. Let's prosecute him for hate speech.

    Anarcho-tyranny is just another way of referring to the Who Whom? dynamic Steve mentions. For every single moral judgement the left makes, the most basic and fundamental thing to take into account is which racial groups are involved, because that will determine which set of rules to apply.

    It is anti-white bigotry elevated to become the supreme, fundamental moral principle that governs all others.


    Anarcho-tyranny = Who Whom? = Anti-white bigotry


    Conservatives sometimes refer to "racial socialism" but it is more a kind of racial feudalism. Getting the police to do anything about these Pakistani gangs was as hard as getting a 17th Century sheriff to bring charges against an aristocrat for raping a peasant girl. It's like some modern version of jus primae noctis (right of first night).

    Replies: @Marty

    Yes, this is what Whiskey’s been saying about blacks in the U.S. – no rules. And he’s right, but people here keep making fun of him.

  63. @D.Jones
    Frost writes...

    "The white slave trade was different in a second way. Most black slaves were destined for physical labor on plantations. There was thus a stronger preference for men over women. In contrast, white slaves were used more for domestic service, particularly concubinage and marriage. There was thus a stronger preference for women, as reflected in the sex ratio of the slave population: black slaves were predominantly male, and white slaves predominantly female. Furthermore, while blacks of both sexes sold for the same price, Russian and Circassian women fetched 50% more than men of the same nationality. (Verlinden, 1977, pp. 211, 224, 306, 315, 330-331, 460, 517; see also Frost, 1990). This price differential continued until the end of white slavery. A mid-19th century report from Turkey states that a “trained, strong, black slave” would cost 4,000 to 5,000 piasters, whereas “white slave girls of special beauty” were worth 50,000 piasters or more (Lewis, 1990, p. 13). "

    Replies: @Bliss, @AnAnon

    Makes you wonder how many of the euro looking MENAs are descendants of slaves.

    White male slaves in the muslim middle-east and north africa were used as eunuchs, servants, laborers, galley slaves, soldiers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bliss

    The most Euro-looking people in the Middle East tend to come from non-Muslim or persecuted quasi-Muslim groups that were endogamous and isolated from the surrounding Muslim population like the Alawites, Yazidis, and Lebanese Christians. Because of their low status, these groups participated in the Arab slave trade much less than the Muslims, and their more European appearance probably reflects the appearance of the region before the importation of large numbers of slaves. Recent European admixture is not likely to have much to do with it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  64. “2. Most white girls have a fascination with men of color”

    Most White girls have a fascination with Pakistani men ? The liberal Western media has not yet stereotyped Pakistani men as sex Gods who all have huge anacondas in their pants like they have with Black men.

    You don’t see any porn movies called “Pakistanis On Blondes” for example.

  65. @Ted
    1. Men of color genera sly do not commit sex crimes without extenuating circumstances

    2. Most white girls have a fascination with men of colour

    3. Sex is normal. Getting it is not evil

    4. The girls can say. They did not

    5. We have to consider the role of racism

    Replies: @JSM

    Effective trolling:

    one star induces boredom in reader

    two stars induces eye rolling in reader

    three stars induces multiple response posts from reader

    five stars induces reader to do damage to own ‘puter

    Ted: one star

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @JSM

    I dunno. He got a half-dozen comments out of 84 responding to his lunacies, so it looks like effective trolling to me.

  66. ‘How much do you want to bet that the “social workers” were also “Asian.”’

    They’re social workers. Look at the course listings for social work programs and tell me with a straight face that it’s an authentic profession.

  67. @ic1000
    @nobody

    nobody (6:02pm) -- according to your link, the 2001 and 2011 Censuses showed about 46,000 people in Rotherham between the ages of 10 and 24 (page 1). Thus, about 11,000 teenage girls in both those years (matches graph on page 5). In 2011, 93% (Figure 1.9) of the population was classified as White, so about 10,000 White teenaged girls in any given year.

    If we guess that each of the 1,400 identified girls was an actively-abused teenager during three of the 16 years covered by the report (1997-2013), that's ~260 out of 10,000, or about 3%. Add to that the former victims -- girls who had been discarded by their pimps, escaped, or moved away. Also add those victims who remain unknown to the authors of the report. So, perhaps 6%-15% of white Rotherham teen girls had first-hand experience of this abuse, at any given time.

    Replies: @nobody

    AMac: Thanks for the insight. Looks like I read the chart totally wrong. So the population is 92% white.

    On to your math…

    6 – 15%, for years! And nobody says anything. Every single teacher in the city must have been aware of what was going on. Every single social worker. You cant’ trust your children with these people.

    Now this:

    According to wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_parent):
    >”In the United Kingdom, about 1 out of 4 families with dependent children are single-parent families”

    So it there’s 10,000 kids and 2,500 are raised by single parents (most likely mothers)… and most of the victims are the daughters of single mothers.

    If you are a white daughter of a single mother in Rotherham your chances of being raped by Pakistani men during your teenage years is (1,400/2,500) = 56%

    Again, Progressives feed the poor to wolves for political gain, while claiming holy intentions. Thank the Tories and their mission to “rub the Right’s face in diversity” — they did a bang-up job here.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @C. Van Carter

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in "People," Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Art Deco, @ben tillman

    Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Yes it was. Per Ernest van den Haag, if you committed an index crime, the probability you would be incarcerated for it declined by 80% during the period running from 1960 to 1970.

  69. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @FWIW
    Although I have no particular knowledge about this incident, the numbers simply don't pass the smell test. 1400? At numbers that large, you don't need the authorities to take action. At least a few of these girls would have relatives that would take the law into their own hands.

    After the Samali Mam exposure, every sensationalist sex trafficking headline elicits skepticism from me, at least. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/30/somaly-mam-holy-saint-and-sinner-sex-trafficking-251642.html

    Objective researchers can't find any material number of sex slaves, much less brutally tortured and beaten ones.

    In Cambodia, there is not only a severe shortage of bona fide sex slaves, there is also a shortage of orphans: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/world/asia/cambodian-activists-fall-exposes-broad-deception.html

    And an objective, detailed study of Cambodian trafficking that has been released long enough that no one, especially Nick Cristof has ANY excuse of being 'shocked' by the deception. http://www.no-trafficking.org/reports_docs/estimates/uniap_cb_estimates_report.pdf

    There is also a lot of conflation of trafficking in general and sexual slavery.
    "Trafficking in persons (TIP) occurs in every country. It is based on economics, on the desire to profit from the work of others without providing just compensation to the workers." And most trafficking has nothing to do with sex. Just vanilla economic abuse.

    Consider this report: http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/168-juveniles-recovered-in-nationwide-operation-targeting-commercial-child-sex-trafficking

    This report conflates juveniles with children, "commercial child sex trafficking throughout the United States" with prostitution, &c.

    To a casual reader who has seen one, if not many TV exposes regarding underage prostitution, &c, it is easy to confuse juvenile prostitutes with child sex slaves.

    The fact that the FBI included enforcement actions in 106 cities across 54 FBI field divisions nationwide and only found 168 juvenile prostitutes is shocking. That is 1.5 per city -- and it is just under age prostitutes. And nowhere do the FBI indicate that any have been transported.

    "“Child sex traffickers create a living nightmare for their adolescent victims,” said Leslie R. Caldwell, Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice."

    How do child traffickers create a living nightmare for adolescents? I suppose because adolescents become children when it adds sensationalism. And local, street level pimps get promoted to trafficking masterminds, because simply being a pimp isn't sensational enough.

    Of course, I am against all the bad stuff -- but isn't it bad enough without calling underage prostitutes child sex slaves?

    As far as the news story --- I am sure that it happened and the perps should be severely punished. It is simply unbelievable that it happened 1400 times. That is 14 years of white cops killing blacks.

    Replies: @anonymous

    I’m not going to defend the 1400 number. However, at least 2 fathers attempted to retrieve their daughters but were arrested:

    “The report identified two separate cases where fathers who had tracked their daughters down and were trying to remove them from houses where they were being abused, were themselves arrested.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11057622/Rotherham-child-sexual-exploitation-Victims-raped-beaten-and-doused-in-petrol-if-they-threatened-to-tell.html

    Also, the Pakistanis were targeting vulnerable girls as such they likely had fewer adult male defenders. Moreover, the Pakistani gangs were likely big and had high social cohesion compared to the atomized poor English families.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Basically, a bunch of Pakistani gangs ran the strip club and prostitution industry in a city of a quarter of a million.

  70. @anonymous
    @FWIW

    I'm not going to defend the 1400 number. However, at least 2 fathers attempted to retrieve their daughters but were arrested:

    "The report identified two separate cases where fathers who had tracked their daughters down and were trying to remove them from houses where they were being abused, were themselves arrested."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11057622/Rotherham-child-sexual-exploitation-Victims-raped-beaten-and-doused-in-petrol-if-they-threatened-to-tell.html

    Also, the Pakistanis were targeting vulnerable girls as such they likely had fewer adult male defenders. Moreover, the Pakistani gangs were likely big and had high social cohesion compared to the atomized poor English families.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Basically, a bunch of Pakistani gangs ran the strip club and prostitution industry in a city of a quarter of a million.

  71. The best part of Steve’s Taki’s piece:

    Strikingly, the Pakistani pimps and johns seem astonished that anybody would object to their behavior. If the girls’ parents cared about protecting their daughters, in their view, they would keep them locked up at home like good Muslims do.

    The pimps seemed convinced that since their victims’ families haven’t organized lethal vendettas against them like any honorable Pakistani family would, they must not have cared.

    Moreover, since the English people hadn’t carried out mass communal violence, such as burning down Pakistani neighborhoods in the time-honored South Asian manner, clearly they didn’t mind.

    And if the English government didn’t want Pakistanis to act Pakistani, they wouldn’t let them into England, now would they?

    You have to admit the defendants have a point.

    Multiculturalism illustrated.

  72. So who were the customers? That many girls, that long – that’s not just sociopaths building themselves harems. Someone’s paying to have sex with those girls – maybe to “marry” them, maybe for more traditional prostitution. Who are they?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anthony

    "Who are they?"

    Uncles, friends, cousins, uncles of friends, friends of cousins etc etc.

    From "Memsahib" to "white meat" in three generations.

  73. @Svigor

    Here in the US we have our own coverups of things such as knockout games, male black rape levels of whites and also within the prison system
     
    The media obfuscates these things, yes. And the justice system under-prosecutes and under-investigates things like black hate crimes against whites. But I've never read anything that led me to believe they don't take rape seriously. They gladly investigate and lock up non-white perps, AFAICT. As for prison rape, it's a storm in a teacup. Dig down into the stats and you'll see what I mean. The vast majority of men being buggered in prison want to be buggered, and genuine rape is very rare - a tiny fraction of a percent of inmates are raped (I'm going by surveys of ex-cons, so YMMV). Personally, I think the whole thing is a propaganda campaign to make respectable types terrified of getting out of line.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @dcite

    Interesting. I worked with a gay guy — flamer, he had a “husband” — whose father had been an official for prisons, and often visited the prison unannounced. He communicated with the guards and had a pretty good grip, so to speak, of what went on. He said that prison rape was pretty rare, and prison sex, if it occurred, must have been a discreet affair.

    • Replies: @Southfarthing
    @dcite

    , @Svigor

    Daily Mail:


    More men are raped in the U.S. than woman, according to figures that include sexual abuse in prisons.

    In 2008, it was estimated 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, according to the Department of Justice figures.

    "That is compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison.
     

  74. Reading the demographics a different way:

    3.7% muslim
    1.1% Pakistan born

    ~9000 muslims in Rotherham,

    Slightly less than half male (usually a good bet)

    Figure those too young or too old to participate no less than 20%

    So somewhere between 2500 and 3500 adult Pakistani males in the community

    1400 (a “conservative estimate”) victims, all of whom we know of describe multiple rapists.

    What percentage of the adult male muslim community in Rotherham WASN’T out banging twelve-year-olds?

    • Replies: @gbloco
    @Tarrou

    Rotherham as one of the lowest Asian percentages in Midlands/Yorkshire. I think this meant that
    1. It attracted a lot of out-of-towner muslims
    2. Whites were less wise to the Pakistani tricks than they would have been say in Bradford.

  75. @Steve Sailer
    @C. Van Carter

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in "People," Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Art Deco, @ben tillman

    Feminist Susan Brownmiller pointed out in 1975 that rape often was a political act, as had Eldridge Cleaver a few years before in justifying his raping white women. In an interview in “People,” Brownmiller bravely pointed out the big rise in black-on-white rapes in the era and suggested it was tied into leftist ideologies of the time.

    I pulled her book off the shelf in a library once, and I have to say to say that the passages I read were generally coherent and, at times, reasonable.

  76. Regardless of whether this is too little, too late, it would behoove Europe to have a similarly frank discussion of Albanian sex-slavery rings, though I am not holding my breath.

    I recall in the Liam Neeson movie Taken, which featured Albanian sex-slavers targeting California girls vacationing in Paris (as opposed to their usual hunting grounds in the backwaters of Moldova, Romania, and the like), they gave the Albanian kidnappers distinctly Christian names like Marko and Petar, even though Albanians are predominantly ethnically Muslim. Something tells me that when the official report comes out, the ethnic background of the slavers will be no less fancifully portrayed.

  77. I won’t say anything about the people that use these services but it would seem like the only solution is legal for only government run prostitution, they probably have some inate abilities in this area anyway.

  78. What will it take to wake up the English? If the UKIP does not place first or a strong second for popular vote in the next general election, I suspect all it lost. In the meantime, who is holding the vile social services employees & police accountable for their suppression of the truth, and for shielding the ringleaders. Where is the outrage??

  79. This is how Muslim crimes against white girls are treated in a Labour-controlled British city where Muslims are less than 10% of the population. What happens in a Labour-controlled city where Muslims are 20-40-60% of the population? How are native Brits treated then?

  80. The only bright side is at least the British government does not classify Pakistanis as “White” in order to statistically hide their barbaric behavior and dump it into the U.K’s White crime rate in order to inflate the White crime rate.

    In the U.S if a bunch of Pakistani pedophile rapist pimps were arrested by the FBI, Eric Holder would make sure they be classified as “White”.

  81. I remember reading about this back when Nick Griffin was trying to raise awareness about the issue. That was 10 years ago! We have made a huge amount of progress since then. There has been a sea change in public opinion. A lot of the comments sections in the mainstream press look like Steve’s now. Online news is probably more popular than offline news now. Anyone who is remotely well read today can’t help but come across argument that effectively challenges the PC orthodoxy. And by challenge, I mean effectively destroys whatever “argument” PC is defended with. Our views have gone mainstream. Maybe not majority, yet. But undoubtedly mainstream.

    It kind of boggles the mind to think that these arguments were hardly out there in the beginning, which to me is about 10-15 years ago. You could count the sort of sites in which you would read about this sort of thing with both hands, maybe. The BNP site, Jihadwatch, Stormfront, SWPL Stormfront (aka iSteve lol) as Truth once termed it, Majority Rights, Gates of Vienna, not many more than that. Print journalism was a wall to wall full-court press. You really had to know what you were looking for, it was only found online and to discuss this sort of thing with regular people marked one as a sort of kook I suppose, because unless they read it in the MSM it didn’t exist. And you were some “racist” weirdo for worrying about these things that were surely blown out of proportion.

    Nice article at Takimag, Steve.

  82. @Anthony
    So who were the customers? That many girls, that long - that's not just sociopaths building themselves harems. Someone's paying to have sex with those girls - maybe to "marry" them, maybe for more traditional prostitution. Who are they?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Who are they?”

    Uncles, friends, cousins, uncles of friends, friends of cousins etc etc.

    From “Memsahib” to “white meat” in three generations.

  83. @JSM
    @Ted

    Effective trolling:

    one star induces boredom in reader

    two stars induces eye rolling in reader

    three stars induces multiple response posts from reader

    five stars induces reader to do damage to own 'puter


    Ted: one star

    Replies: @Brutusale

    I dunno. He got a half-dozen comments out of 84 responding to his lunacies, so it looks like effective trolling to me.

  84. That contradicts your “Castrated or strung up” point.

    In places like Mexico, Saudi Arabia, etc., it’s probably a safe bet that a lot of males are molesting their own family members, but if they catch an outsider doing it, they string him up. It’s particularly easy to imagine this being the case in Muslim countries.

    Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.

    Yep, that sounds like a Yankee. Imperialistic? Check. Hegemonic? Check. Burn the village to save it? Check. Wild-eyed maniac with convenient excuses for violence and oppression? Check.

    I saw that headline at Google News and assumed it was just another case of child porn and pedophilia which is so rampant among the majority population of North America and Western Europe.

    I suspect that nobody ever talks about pedophilia and child molestation in places like Africa, Asia, and Latin America is because these places don’t bother investigating intra-familial pedophilia and child molestation, because they don’t consider it a crime, or at least, one worth bothering about. And it’s probably rampant, by western standards. And probably carries over into third-world populations in the first world. Anything that shows that non-Euros aren’t whites with differently-colored skin, in a way that doesn’t elicit admiration from Euros, must be ignored, or swept under the rug if necessary. Which is easily done, because these populations aren’t concerned over the issue.

    Plus, political correctness only denies what everyone knows.

    In my experience, there are an awful lot of people who are ignorant about an awful lot of racial reality. They vociferously deny racial realities in black crime, for example. And arguing with them will only expose their genuine and thoroughgoing ignorance of the facts.

    Yes, this is what Whiskey’s been saying about blacks in the U.S. – no rules. And he’s right, but people here keep making fun of him.

    For other stuff (duh). Plenty of people have related Sam Francis’ Anarcho-Tyranny construction. I don’t think any of us have tried to pass it off as original, though.

    Miss Berelowitz

    ‘Nuff said. In the Jewish Reich, though, they charge you with rape if you pretend to be Jewish so you can sleep with a Jewish girl, and gin up mobs and death threats if a Muslim man marries a Jewish woman (“Jewish-Muslim wedding brings out bitter Israel tensions,” AFP). And when a clothing manufacturer puts out an outfit with stripes and a gold star, Jews scream bloody murder and get the clothing pulled from stores and destroyed.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Svigor

    "Plus, political correctness only denies what everyone knows."

    The way everybody knew that Angelo Mozilo was crazy to publicly promise to lend a trillion dollars to minorities and lower income borrowers so they quietly took him aside and told him they wouldn't buy his mortgage backed securities, which is why there was no housing bubble or subsequent bust.

  85. A society that can’t or won’t protect its children is sick and broken.

    Why should Scotland want to still be part of it?

    ,

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    @Sam

    when Scotland bails they are going to take the labour government that did this with them. All they had to do, in other words, was to just not vote for it.

  86. @Svigor

    That contradicts your “Castrated or strung up” point.
     
    In places like Mexico, Saudi Arabia, etc., it's probably a safe bet that a lot of males are molesting their own family members, but if they catch an outsider doing it, they string him up. It's particularly easy to imagine this being the case in Muslim countries.

    Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.
     
    Yep, that sounds like a Yankee. Imperialistic? Check. Hegemonic? Check. Burn the village to save it? Check. Wild-eyed maniac with convenient excuses for violence and oppression? Check.

    I saw that headline at Google News and assumed it was just another case of child porn and pedophilia which is so rampant among the majority population of North America and Western Europe.
     
    I suspect that nobody ever talks about pedophilia and child molestation in places like Africa, Asia, and Latin America is because these places don't bother investigating intra-familial pedophilia and child molestation, because they don't consider it a crime, or at least, one worth bothering about. And it's probably rampant, by western standards. And probably carries over into third-world populations in the first world. Anything that shows that non-Euros aren't whites with differently-colored skin, in a way that doesn't elicit admiration from Euros, must be ignored, or swept under the rug if necessary. Which is easily done, because these populations aren't concerned over the issue.

    Plus, political correctness only denies what everyone knows.
     
    In my experience, there are an awful lot of people who are ignorant about an awful lot of racial reality. They vociferously deny racial realities in black crime, for example. And arguing with them will only expose their genuine and thoroughgoing ignorance of the facts.

    Yes, this is what Whiskey’s been saying about blacks in the U.S. – no rules. And he’s right, but people here keep making fun of him.
     
    For other stuff (duh). Plenty of people have related Sam Francis' Anarcho-Tyranny construction. I don't think any of us have tried to pass it off as original, though.

    Miss Berelowitz
     
    'Nuff said. In the Jewish Reich, though, they charge you with rape if you pretend to be Jewish so you can sleep with a Jewish girl, and gin up mobs and death threats if a Muslim man marries a Jewish woman ("Jewish-Muslim wedding brings out bitter Israel tensions," AFP). And when a clothing manufacturer puts out an outfit with stripes and a gold star, Jews scream bloody murder and get the clothing pulled from stores and destroyed.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Plus, political correctness only denies what everyone knows.”

    The way everybody knew that Angelo Mozilo was crazy to publicly promise to lend a trillion dollars to minorities and lower income borrowers so they quietly took him aside and told him they wouldn’t buy his mortgage backed securities, which is why there was no housing bubble or subsequent bust.

  87. @ic1000
    @ic1000

    I wonder if my comment (along the lines of my 1:07pm here, supra) at Morning Edition's website will withstand moderation.

    Replies: @ic1000

    Yesterday, I wrote upthread,

    I wonder if my comment (along the lines of my 1:07pm here, supra) at Morning Edition‘s website will withstand moderation.

    It did! That encouraged me to take issue with another commenter’s contention that the abusers’ religious affiliation is irrelevant.

    @ Chris Kirschner
    > [The perpetrators’] religious affiliation is irrelevant in this case.

    If the objective is to understand the flourishing of sexual abuse in these English towns over the past two decades, it would be rash to quickly rule out any possible factor. In her report, Prof. Jay notes, “Several [police and social care] staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.” (page 5).

    If fear of PC-inspired backlash contributed to this disaster, then the relevant aspects of the abusers and the victims… are relevant. Religion included.

    Back in 2013, Steve Sailer suggested that this sorry episode could be seen as a clash of two cultures. The Pakistani immigrants’ is honor-based, clannish, patriarchal, and Muslim. They viewed the nominally-Christian, nuclear-family-based culture of poorer whites with puzzlement, then disdain.

    Strikingly, the Pakistani pimps and johns seem astonished that anybody would object to their behavior. If the girls’ parents cared about protecting their daughters, in their view, they would keep them locked up at home like good Muslims do.

    The pimps seemed convinced that since their victims’ families haven’t organized lethal vendettas against them like any honorable Pakistani family would, they must not have cared.

    Moreover, since the English people hadn’t carried out mass communal violence, such as burning down Pakistani neighborhoods in the time-honored South Asian manner, clearly they didn’t mind.

    And if the English government didn’t want Pakistanis to act Pakistani, they wouldn’t let them into England, now would they?

    Is this the heart of the matter? Maybe, maybe not. Even getting to the point of asking the question requires stronger reporting than Mr. Shapiro has provided.

    After it vanished, I submitted

    At 12:41pm PDT on 8/28/14, I posted a civil, on-topic, 285-word response to Chris Kirschner’s assertion that “Their religious affiliation is irrelevant in this case.”
    The note “Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by NPR News” preceded the disappearance of that comment. How will this one will fare?

    Still in existence, at the moment.

  88. @D.Jones
    Frost writes...

    "The white slave trade was different in a second way. Most black slaves were destined for physical labor on plantations. There was thus a stronger preference for men over women. In contrast, white slaves were used more for domestic service, particularly concubinage and marriage. There was thus a stronger preference for women, as reflected in the sex ratio of the slave population: black slaves were predominantly male, and white slaves predominantly female. Furthermore, while blacks of both sexes sold for the same price, Russian and Circassian women fetched 50% more than men of the same nationality. (Verlinden, 1977, pp. 211, 224, 306, 315, 330-331, 460, 517; see also Frost, 1990). This price differential continued until the end of white slavery. A mid-19th century report from Turkey states that a “trained, strong, black slave” would cost 4,000 to 5,000 piasters, whereas “white slave girls of special beauty” were worth 50,000 piasters or more (Lewis, 1990, p. 13). "

    Replies: @Bliss, @AnAnon

    The sultans did make use of Christians as advisors and such, they tended to not trust their own people to not stab them in the back(or front). but yeah, the complete lack of any white community in the areas that took more than a million european slaves is fairly damning.

  89. @Sam
    A society that can't or won't protect its children is sick and broken.

    Why should Scotland want to still be part of it?


    ,

    Replies: @AnAnon

    when Scotland bails they are going to take the labour government that did this with them. All they had to do, in other words, was to just not vote for it.

  90. Yes, this is what Whiskey’s been saying about blacks in the U.S. – no rules

    Not no rules, different rules.

  91. “A society that can’t or won’t protect its children is sick and broken. Why should Scotland want to still be part of it?”

    All the decent Scots left for the colonies. Those who stayed are a bunch of creepy little socialists. Scotland has, iirc, 59 MPs (Members of Parliament). One of them – o-n-e – is a Tory, and all the rest are Labour, Lib-Dem, or SNP (the socialist Scottish Nationalist Party). If Scotland left the UK tomorrow, Conservatives would be an outright majority of Parliament and have no need for their Lib-Dem coalition members.

    Scotland, not want to be part of it? Scotland helped to create it.

    • Replies: @Sam
    @Wilkey

    I wasn't aware of the makeup of the British parliament.

    Maybe that is the reason of letting millions of primitive, Dark Age immigrants into Britain?

    Scottish MPs did it to destroy England

    Replies: @Anonymous

  92. @Tarrou
    Reading the demographics a different way:

    3.7% muslim
    1.1% Pakistan born

    ~9000 muslims in Rotherham,

    Slightly less than half male (usually a good bet)

    Figure those too young or too old to participate no less than 20%

    So somewhere between 2500 and 3500 adult Pakistani males in the community

    1400 (a "conservative estimate") victims, all of whom we know of describe multiple rapists.

    What percentage of the adult male muslim community in Rotherham WASN'T out banging twelve-year-olds?

    Replies: @gbloco

    Rotherham as one of the lowest Asian percentages in Midlands/Yorkshire. I think this meant that
    1. It attracted a lot of out-of-towner muslims
    2. Whites were less wise to the Pakistani tricks than they would have been say in Bradford.

  93. Ok dad’s weren’t in the picture. Brothers? Male friends? Where were the bad boy white teenagers at? Did they know about this, and why didn’t they teach the scum a lesson?

    It just seems impossible that in a 93% white city, that many white girls were getting raped by “Asians” and nobody could do anything.

    At least in the u.s. many white people have guns.

  94. Some dads were in the picture. Those dads tried to go and get their girls back. Those dads were arrested for doing this. I figure similar things happened to other male friends and relatives.

    The police were complicit. If they had any shame they’d commit suicide, and their suicide note would be a last will and testament handing police powers over to the BNP.

  95. @Wilkey
    "A society that can’t or won’t protect its children is sick and broken. Why should Scotland want to still be part of it?"

    All the decent Scots left for the colonies. Those who stayed are a bunch of creepy little socialists. Scotland has, iirc, 59 MPs (Members of Parliament). One of them - o-n-e - is a Tory, and all the rest are Labour, Lib-Dem, or SNP (the socialist Scottish Nationalist Party). If Scotland left the UK tomorrow, Conservatives would be an outright majority of Parliament and have no need for their Lib-Dem coalition members.

    Scotland, not want to be part of it? Scotland helped to create it.

    Replies: @Sam

    I wasn’t aware of the makeup of the British parliament.

    Maybe that is the reason of letting millions of primitive, Dark Age immigrants into Britain?

    Scottish MPs did it to destroy England

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sam

    There is some truth to that. It was Labor that did it and Scotland is a big stronghold of Labor.

  96. Sam, I love Scotland. About half my DNA is from there. But I want Scotland to vote for independence so that the Scottish people can grow up and learn to govern themselves, and so they will stop helping to destroy the nation that is the source of the other half of my DNA, England. Scotland leaves, and the UK that remains instantly becomes much more conservative.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    Agreed 100%. Both England and Scotland would be better off as separate countries.

  97. @dcite
    @Svigor

    Interesting. I worked with a gay guy -- flamer, he had a "husband" -- whose father had been an official for prisons, and often visited the prison unannounced. He communicated with the guards and had a pretty good grip, so to speak, of what went on. He said that prison rape was pretty rare, and prison sex, if it occurred, must have been a discreet affair.

    Replies: @Southfarthing

    ,

    Daily Mail:

    More men are raped in the U.S. than woman, according to figures that include sexual abuse in prisons.

    In 2008, it was estimated 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, according to the Department of Justice figures.

    “That is compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison.

  98. @Wilkey
    Sam, I love Scotland. About half my DNA is from there. But I want Scotland to vote for independence so that the Scottish people can grow up and learn to govern themselves, and so they will stop helping to destroy the nation that is the source of the other half of my DNA, England. Scotland leaves, and the UK that remains instantly becomes much more conservative.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Agreed 100%. Both England and Scotland would be better off as separate countries.

  99. @Sam
    @Wilkey

    I wasn't aware of the makeup of the British parliament.

    Maybe that is the reason of letting millions of primitive, Dark Age immigrants into Britain?

    Scottish MPs did it to destroy England

    Replies: @Anonymous

    There is some truth to that. It was Labor that did it and Scotland is a big stronghold of Labor.

  100. “Agreed 100%. Both England and Scotland would be better off as separate countries.”

    Yes. The Scots feel like a minority in a big country. Minorities are seldom conservative, because conservatism is about defending the dominant culture – a culture which, justifiably or not, the minority does not feel itself to be part of. The rest of the world probably feels there isn’t really much difference between Scottish and English, but the Scots certainly do.

    Scotland also feels like it gets to take from its bigger, richer brother, England.

    Make the Scots a majority in their own country, so their own culture becomes the majority culture, and so they aren’t taking from anybody, and they will almost certainly become more conservative. At the very least they won’t be destroying England.

    Alas, at present it appears as though the vote for independence will fail.

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss
    @D.Jones

    Makes you wonder how many of the euro looking MENAs are descendants of slaves.

    White male slaves in the muslim middle-east and north africa were used as eunuchs, servants, laborers, galley slaves, soldiers.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The most Euro-looking people in the Middle East tend to come from non-Muslim or persecuted quasi-Muslim groups that were endogamous and isolated from the surrounding Muslim population like the Alawites, Yazidis, and Lebanese Christians. Because of their low status, these groups participated in the Arab slave trade much less than the Muslims, and their more European appearance probably reflects the appearance of the region before the importation of large numbers of slaves. Recent European admixture is not likely to have much to do with it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    "Recent European admixture is not likely to have much to do with it."

    There has been some backflow into the Middle East: Muslim Circassians from the Caucasus were offered refuge in the Ottoman Empire when the Russians finally conquered the Caucasus in the 1860s, the slave trade from Slavic areas, the Crusades, and the general Roman reassignments of officials and merchants (Tony Rezko, for instance, claims to be an Italian whose family has been in Syria for 2000 years).

  102. @Anonymous
    @Bliss

    The most Euro-looking people in the Middle East tend to come from non-Muslim or persecuted quasi-Muslim groups that were endogamous and isolated from the surrounding Muslim population like the Alawites, Yazidis, and Lebanese Christians. Because of their low status, these groups participated in the Arab slave trade much less than the Muslims, and their more European appearance probably reflects the appearance of the region before the importation of large numbers of slaves. Recent European admixture is not likely to have much to do with it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Recent European admixture is not likely to have much to do with it.”

    There has been some backflow into the Middle East: Muslim Circassians from the Caucasus were offered refuge in the Ottoman Empire when the Russians finally conquered the Caucasus in the 1860s, the slave trade from Slavic areas, the Crusades, and the general Roman reassignments of officials and merchants (Tony Rezko, for instance, claims to be an Italian whose family has been in Syria for 2000 years).

  103. Unfortunately, it doesn’t make much difference what the ruling party in the UK is. The Tories are gutless. Both England and Scotland are screwed regardless of the outcome of the referendum.

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