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Ilhan Omar remains one of the more useful figures in American politics for just blurting out what’s on her mind instead of the carefully crafted party line.

So, forget all that stuff about Peaceful Protests, it’s actually the Ongoing Uprising, but that’s a good thing because you white people deserve it.

 
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  1. https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

    Epstein had a “Scholarship Lodge” right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan’s most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.

    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged ‘madam,’ Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.

    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official “Scholarship Lodge” built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his “madame” Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, learn to use MORE when you interject your off topic obsession into yet another comment thread. It's just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.



    That tag. Learn it. Use it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @art guerrilla, @Pericles

    , @BenKenobi
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They deserve to die. They all deserve to die. Paxton Fettel did nothing wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOW5l0NX_74

    , @Jaroslav Hašek
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Remember the “satanic panic” at the McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, CA circa 1983? You and your hysterical fellow travelers have fallen for the modern day equivalent of that fiasco. You’ve got NOTHING. Your so-called “evidence” is laughable, but that doesn’t stop you from posting this drivel here, off topic, to feed your prurient obsession. Give it a rest, man.

    Replies: @HA

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Tuition alone costs some $38,000...
     
    I'm impressed. Somebody used tuition in its original meaning, rather than writing "tuition is".

    Where did this appear? Sources, links, please!

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Ben tillman

    , @BB753
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is just the tip of the iceberg Epstein was almost royalty in the Ivy League. And he knew everybody. Many professors visited Epstein Island.

    , @Verymuchalive
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Alan Dershowitz ( Not ):
    Every High School should have a Jewish Pedophile-in-Residence, even if it's only one week a year. Its part of who we are.

  2. I hadn’t realized her family has been here 200 years. That is a late comer for mine.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Prof. Woland

    Yeah, it's time America addressed the guilt of oppressing Somalia for so many centuries, even before George Washington was born! Lol!

  3. Ilhan Omar remains one of the more useful figures in American politics

    This was unironically true about a year ago, before the DNC took her aside for “The Talk: Gentile Version”

  4. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    Johnny, learn to use MORE when you interject your off topic obsession into yet another comment thread. It’s just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.

    [MORE]

    That tag. Learn it. Use it.

    • Disagree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @anon

    Many here have begged him to show us this small courtesy. Nothing doing, apparently.

    , @art guerrilla
    @anon

    oh, dog yes !!!
    my index finger is raw from using the scroll wheel to get past what is arguably the iceberg tip of one of the most important stories in the his story of the planet ! !
    but your poor abused index finger is much more important than critical news the main stream media whores are avoiding like the plague...
    um, okay, that analogy doesn't hold anymore, avoid it like, um, alt news truths...
    .
    ...oh, and your poor, poor finger, i weep for it...
    *snort*

    , @Pericles
    @anon


    It’s just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.

     

    I for one hadn't heard about the Epstein-Interlochen connection before. And the victims seem ever younger.
  5. The Somalian community in Minnesota has been oppressed for centuries?
    This cannot stand, and neither can those statues.

  6. The most vulnerable people in America are whites. The most vulnerable race on the planet are whites.
    Ilhan we don’t need you!!! You need us.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @bruce county


    The most vulnerable race on the planet are whites.
     
    One reason they're the most vulnerable race in the world is because they're the most valuable. Not because I said so. But because the one thing, above all else, that separates Whites from every other race is their drive toward reality. With every other race, with the possible exception of the Japanese, the drive toward belief comes first, always.

    This is no small thing. Because you can't sustain a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever before without living a commitment to reality. The lack of it today is exactly why everything is falling apart.


    This drive toward reality is best seen in the willingness and ability Whites (certainly not all, obviously) to expose their ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction. It was the very foundation of our educational system until not all that long ago.

    Which, of course, is exactly why they wanted to get rid of it and did. I'll leave it to the reader to figure out who they are.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  7. Yes, they are so oppressed that vapid statements like the one below are being published as insightful quotes.

    “We need to do a better job of putting ourselves higher on our own ‘To Do’ list.”
    ~Michelle Obama

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Escher

    “We need to do a better job of putting ourselves higher on our own ‘To Do’ list.”
    ~Michelle Obama



    Yup, more narcissism. That's the ticket.

  8. So, in Chicago, there was recently a report that all the gangs made an agreement to kill cops. Who knows how much truth there was to that, but what do you think the chances are that the criminal class of Blacks! will become “politically” radicalized terrorists–not just as an excuse for sporadic looting, during this political phase we are in–but for the foreseeable future?

  9. that’s a good thing b because you white people deserve it.

    *white antifa burns down black owned store*

  10. ‘wiki’ says that her dad ultimately established a career at the USPS. She attended public schools (where she was bullied, naturally).

    Omar has been “working” in the public sector for her entire, adult life.

    Native-born tax leeches are bad enough. It drives me nuts that we import leeches.

    The Government should be prohibited from schooling immigrant kids, hiring immigrant adults, and so forth.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @sayless
    @Abolish_public_education

    Yes, we might have been spared Henry Kissinger.

    , @PSR
    @Abolish_public_education

    A big step would be to simply ban all immigration from Mohammedan countries. It goes without saying that there are many fine people who are Mohammedan, but those cultures do not understand the west or what is expected to be part of a western society.

  11. She is not “blurting out” anything; she is reading from a (self-?)prepared written statement.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    In that clip she’s not her usual ‘game’ self, she seems nervous …

    , @Lot
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say "austerity."

    Notice is the massive uptalking too, not only do sentences all sound like questions, so do clauses ending in commas and random words.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

  12. So much for “Midwestern Nice”.

    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    @Dan Hayes

    She is about as Midwestern as Idi Amin or Pol Pot. Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst are "Midwestern Nice. "

  13. For an politician, you’d think she’d be a better speaker. How about reading through your prepared remarks a couple times before delivering them?

    • Replies: @sayless
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I noticed she can't read very well during her five minutes at some Congressional hearing.

    , @Verymuchalive
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Aw c'mon, Transit man. You're at Chez Sailer, the home of HBD and you still don't get it.
    The average IQ of a Somali adult is 68 ! ( IQ of an average 8 year old white European )
    See here:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
    And here:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321527992_A_Study_of_Sex_Differences_in_Intelligence_of_Somali_Refugees_in_Kenya

    Even if Ilhan Omar is exceptionally clever by Somali standards, she likely still has a two-figure IQ. She likely reads through a script prepared by someone reasonably intelligent, but may have difficulty remembering the lines, hence her " blurt outs".

    Replies: @Cato

  14. Ok, I’ll admit it, even in my advancing years I am still incredibly naive. Still, how can any group of Americans hate the country as much as would be required to vote for this woman?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Bernard

    Still, how can any group of Americans hate the country as much as would be required to vote for this woman?

    See, you have to check your premises.

    Replies: @GSR

  15. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    She is not "blurting out" anything; she is reading from a (self-?)prepared written statement.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Lot

    In that clip she’s not her usual ‘game’ self, she seems nervous …

  16. So, forget all that stuff about Peaceful Protests, it’s actually the Ongoing Uprising, but that’s a good thing b because you white people deserve it.

    Gosh, it’s as if the shrewd set outsmarted themselves. They thought they’d import an army to push their anti-White agenda, but they’d always hold the whip hand.

    And golly, it turns out it’s hard to control a pack of mad dogs. Just when they need to cool down to keep Whitey from rebelling, they double down.

  17. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    No one asked Ilhan Omar – or her family – to come to the USA.
    They pretty much *IMPOSED* themselves on America. And now they have the sheer unmitigated gall to bitch and whine about the nation that stopped them from shitting on the floor and gave them flush toilets.

    Oh, and by the way, ethnic Somali racial discrimination against the Bantu, their former slaves, is rampant and open.

  18. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    They deserve to die. They all deserve to die. Paxton Fettel did nothing wrong.

  19. it’s actually the Ongoing Uprising, but that’s a good thing because you white people deserve it.

    “And it’s going to take centuries of oppressing wypipos to make up for what my people have suffered! Can hardly wait!”

    It seems fair to these people to punish people who had nothing to do with whatever may or may not have happened to other people in the past. (For the details we consult television, the 1619 Project, and Quentin Tarantino movies.)

    The notion that it’s wrong to punish people just because of the color of their skin seems to make all the sense in the world when they’re the ones doing the punishing. And the one-party state we’re headed toward has promised to make it all come true.

  20. @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, learn to use MORE when you interject your off topic obsession into yet another comment thread. It's just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.



    That tag. Learn it. Use it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @art guerrilla, @Pericles

    Many here have begged him to show us this small courtesy. Nothing doing, apparently.

  21. “Neglect” is also a great word. Really gets to the essence of the thing: You didn’t pay the jizya, didn’t give us enough stuff.

  22. So, is it neglect or oppression that is the worse problem?
    “Leave us alone!”
    “OK”
    “Why do you neglect our community?”

  23. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    She is not "blurting out" anything; she is reading from a (self-?)prepared written statement.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Lot

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say “austerity.”

    Notice is the massive uptalking too, not only do sentences all sound like questions, so do clauses ending in commas and random words.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @Lot

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say “austerity.”

    Yep, wonder who her writers are. (I think I know.)

    I learned the word austerity around 1974 in New York, when the City was down and out. My mudda explained that austerity meant "no more expensive stuff; try to conserve your existing resources."

    The 1974 me watches Rep. Omar and shouts, "Hey lady, get the hell outta here! We don't need you, but we respect you. God blesss you and be on your way."

    Ad the 2020 me would add: "Eat me."

    Replies: @anon

  24. @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, learn to use MORE when you interject your off topic obsession into yet another comment thread. It's just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.



    That tag. Learn it. Use it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @art guerrilla, @Pericles

    oh, dog yes !!!
    my index finger is raw from using the scroll wheel to get past what is arguably the iceberg tip of one of the most important stories in the his story of the planet ! !
    but your poor abused index finger is much more important than critical news the main stream media whores are avoiding like the plague…
    um, okay, that analogy doesn’t hold anymore, avoid it like, um, alt news truths…
    .
    …oh, and your poor, poor finger, i weep for it…
    *snort*

  25. Now we know why Somalia is a failed state.

  26. Representative Ilhan Abdullahi Omar =

    Here, men! (purr) I have tits, do labial, anal!

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @the one they call Desanex

    This is epic! Now can you do the Gettysburg Address?

  27. I did not realise we had been in Mogadishu so long.

  28. “racial neglect…” ?

    Somehow, I don’t think she was talking about Whites “neglecting” their self-interest and twisting themselves into suicidal knots over microaggressions against blacks.

  29. Chic Omar looks like she’s issuing demands for a PLO plane highjacking c. 1973

    • Agree: Redman
  30. @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, learn to use MORE when you interject your off topic obsession into yet another comment thread. It's just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.



    That tag. Learn it. Use it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @art guerrilla, @Pericles

    It’s just tiresome to have to scroll past the same crap over and over again.

    I for one hadn’t heard about the Epstein-Interlochen connection before. And the victims seem ever younger.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  31. @Dan Hayes
    So much for "Midwestern Nice".

    Replies: @Hannah Katz

    She is about as Midwestern as Idi Amin or Pol Pot. Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst are “Midwestern Nice. ”

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    Remember the “satanic panic” at the McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, CA circa 1983? You and your hysterical fellow travelers have fallen for the modern day equivalent of that fiasco. You’ve got NOTHING. Your so-called “evidence” is laughable, but that doesn’t stop you from posting this drivel here, off topic, to feed your prurient obsession. Give it a rest, man.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Jaroslav Hašek

    "You and your hysterical fellow travelers have fallen for the modern day equivalent of that [Satanic panic child-care] fiasco... Give it a rest, man."

    Save your breath. If he's not a pedophile himself (which wouldn't surprise me), he's one of their useful idiots. Maybe he's paid to do what he does, or maybe he's dumb and blind enough to do it for free.

    Because every single time the topic of pedophilia is mentioned, here comes JohnnyWalker123, ready to steer the conversation down some freakish tangent. Maybe it'll be about the Rothschilds this time, or the Podestas, or Jeffrey Epstein, or the Illuminati, or Stanley Kubrick movies, or Satanic rituals, or Pizzagate. And sure enough, the conspiracy lemmings will gobble it up and then it's down some weird rabbit hole after that. The kind of weirdness that -- after the McMartin/Amirault debacles -- no DA will touch for fear he might get laughed out of office. Every single time. Is that just a coincidence?

    Don't get me wrong. Of course there are powerful people in government, finance, Hollywood, the military, rock stars, rappers, etc., who are pedophiles or who have a thing for teens, in addition to the other adult sex workers they traffic. But mostly, they're truck drivers, coaches, pediatricians, scoutmasters, etc. People a lot like the rest of us, hiding in plain sight. Were the groomers of Rotherham among the elites? Was Prince Andrew one of their clients? I doubt it. And yet, their victims are just as violated as those Epstein abused, even if they didn't get inaugurated into the Grand Order of Marina Abramovich's Vestal Virgins, or get taken down to Chuck Norris's pedo-dungeons, or whatever other weird tale JohnnyWalker123 and people like him are going to spin this time around.

    And pedophile rings are definitely real, too. The victims of Operation Cathedral are, for the most part, still unidentified (we're talking only 17 out of more than a thousand). In fact, they had to kick some countries' police departments out of the operation because they couldn't provide sufficient assurances that their police wouldn't just tip off the suspects in their locales. That's pretty sick enough. But since it's actually real, it's not for JohnnyWalker123 -- no, he's going to make sure all that gets lost in some Eyes-Wide-Shut fever dream.

    He's either like one of those atheists who only care about pedophilia if a Catholic priest is involved (i.e., he doesn't care at all), or else he's something even more sinister. If at some point he actually started caring about stopping real, actual pedophile rings (or even pedophilia as it actually exists for the most part, which is in family, or quasi-family situations), he might eventually steer the conversation back to them instead of continuing his one-man disinformation campaign. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

  33. can’t keep a good mon down!

    6-year-old boy among five people shot at Brooklyn J’Ouvert celebration

    The official J’Ouvert and the West Indian Day events have been canceled due to the coronavirus pandemic, but revelers decided to gather in the early hours anyway.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/07/five-shot-including-child-at-brooklyn-jouvert-celebration/

  34. She is pure Somali uselessness and leeching from West Africa. Our real black Americans come from West Africa. Unfortunately too many of them have been spoiled rotten and become leeches. And as the traditional slave blooded talented tenth have moved into the job safety of academia, they are now major parasites with degraded brain processing. Now are the no-talent tenth.

    I’ll bet that by now more imported blacks are becoming doctors than our legacy blacks. I had one from West Africa

  35. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    Tuition alone costs some $38,000…

    I’m impressed. Somebody used tuition in its original meaning, rather than writing “tuition is”.

    Where did this appear? Sources, links, please!

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8701591/PICTURED-Jeffrey-Epsteins-cabin-near-Michigan-arts-academy-recruited-underaged-victim.html

    , @Ben tillman
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that usage has been making a bit of a comeback.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  36. Ever notice that the only Somalis you ever hear of in public life are women? Politicians and models.The

    Other than the odd panicky beat cop, can you name even one Somaliman of note in the West?

    • Replies: @Pontius
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why yes, Trudeau's former immigration (!!!!!!!) minister.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ahmed_Hussen_at_the_Toronto_Caribbean_Carnival_-_2017_(36258275322).jpg



    "On October 31, 2018, Hussen announced that the Government of Canada had updated its multi-year immigration levels plan, which would see the number of new immigrants in Canada rise to 350,000 by 2021. This plan was to see immigration levels rise by 40,000 more than Canada's target of 310,000 immigrants in 2018.[20] The planned increases were set to reflect needs in the economic class of immigration to aid with Canada's labour shortages, as well as in humanitarian streams of immigration.[21]

    In a 2018, Angus Reid Institute poll found that Hussen is one of the least popular ministers in Trudeau's cabinet."

    Replies: @anon

  37. anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Good Point Reg,

    My question is who is doing Rep Omar’s wardrobe and makeup?

    Omar seems to possess perfectly impeccable image control calculated to appeal to the multi-culti sensibilities of white liberals who otherwise would harbor doubts about the logic of flooding their communities with Somalis.

    With Somali men it has been hard so far to get past the crude scary “I am the Captain now” meme.

    • LOL: bruce county
  38. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    This is just the tip of the iceberg Epstein was almost royalty in the Ivy League. And he knew everybody. Many professors visited Epstein Island.

  39. @Prof. Woland
    I hadn't realized her family has been here 200 years. That is a late comer for mine.

    Replies: @BB753

    Yeah, it’s time America addressed the guilt of oppressing Somalia for so many centuries, even before George Washington was born! Lol!

  40. Who’s been oppressing Somalians for centuries? The Italians briefly invaded for a few years, but beyond that, Somalis have always been pretty integrated into the Arab sphere, and I don’t think they were ever used as slaves for the Turks or Saudis. Shouldn’t descendants of slaves get mad at her stealing their thunder?

  41. @Escher
    Yes, they are so oppressed that vapid statements like the one below are being published as insightful quotes.

    "We need to do a better job of putting ourselves higher on our own 'To Do' list."
    ~Michelle Obama

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    “We need to do a better job of putting ourselves higher on our own ‘To Do’ list.”
    ~Michelle Obama

    Yup, more narcissism. That’s the ticket.

  42. @Bernard
    Ok, I’ll admit it, even in my advancing years I am still incredibly naive. Still, how can any group of Americans hate the country as much as would be required to vote for this woman?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Still, how can any group of Americans hate the country as much as would be required to vote for this woman?

    See, you have to check your premises.

    • Replies: @GSR
    @kaganovitch

    The problem is, Minneapolis has many, many non-Americans who are foreign born like her, now citizens, and now vote.... For her.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  43. Ilhan was effectively bullied into silence re Israel/Palestine. The Right were ready to demonize her because of her Muslim + “extreme ethnic other” combination while centrist media orgs run by Zionists or by people knowledgeable of the power dynamics in the Dem party went after her hard (eg the CNN crew, many of whom have a dog in the fight.) Only the Bernie left vigorously defending her online prevented her from getting completely shunned.

  44. @Abolish_public_education
    ‘wiki’ says that her dad ultimately established a career at the USPS. She attended public schools (where she was bullied, naturally).

    Omar has been “working” in the public sector for her entire, adult life.

    Native-born tax leeches are bad enough. It drives me nuts that we import leeches.

    The Government should be prohibited from schooling immigrant kids, hiring immigrant adults, and so forth.

    Replies: @sayless, @PSR

    Yes, we might have been spared Henry Kissinger.

  45. @NJ Transit Commuter
    For an politician, you’d think she’d be a better speaker. How about reading through your prepared remarks a couple times before delivering them?

    Replies: @sayless, @Verymuchalive

    I noticed she can’t read very well during her five minutes at some Congressional hearing.

  46. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Tuition alone costs some $38,000...
     
    I'm impressed. Somebody used tuition in its original meaning, rather than writing "tuition is".

    Where did this appear? Sources, links, please!

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Ben tillman

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Tuition alone costs some $38,000...
     
    I'm impressed. Somebody used tuition in its original meaning, rather than writing "tuition is".

    Where did this appear? Sources, links, please!

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Ben tillman

    I think that usage has been making a bit of a comeback.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ben tillman


    I think that usage has been making a bit of a comeback.
     
    Thank Sting.
  48. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/EyesOnQ/status/1302513938135908354

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000606158302.jpg?w=620

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NINTCHDBPICT000603048829.jpg?w=620

    The cabin in the northern Michigan town of Interlochen, which was once known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge

     

    Epstein had a "Scholarship Lodge" right next to the super expensive Interlochen private school in Michigan.

    During the 1990s, Epstein, the billionaire former financier, was a donor to the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts, a fine-arts boarding school and camp located in the quiet woods of northern Michigan.

    Interlochen is one of Michigan's most expensive private schools. Tuition alone costs some $38,000 while boarding costs nearly $60,000, according to MLive.com.
     
    Imagine. You spend $98,000 ($38,000 + 60,0000) to send your daughter to this private school. Nearby, Epstein has his own lodge.

    Epstein was known to visit the cabin at least once a year as part of an arrangement with a nearby fine arts school for children

     


    Students at the academy in Interlochen reported seeing Epstein and his alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell, on campus in the 1990s.
     
    So Epstein and Maxwell were on the Interlochen campus, walking around the place.

    Not only did Epstein fund the scholarship lodge, but he also hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his New York office as well as his seven-story townhouse.

     

    He hosted events for Interlochen alumni at his home.

    The unnamed woman, who claims Epstein recruited her in 1994 when she was just a 13-years-old student at Interlochen, was allegedly abused for more than four years.

     

    So back when a Interlochen female student was a 13 years old, Epstein entrapped her into his prostitution ring.

    Another Interlochen student that Epstein is alleged to have targeted is soap-opera actress Nadia Bjorlin. Bjorlin’s mother said Epstein approached her daughter when she was just 13 years old in 1994. ‘My daughter was a singer,’ Fary Bjorlin said. ‘She was a baby. She was a skinny little girl, not mature for her age. ‘She was 13, but everyone thought she was 9 or 10.’

    Nadia Bjorlin is the daughter of the late Swedish classical conductor Ulf Bjorlin, who died the year before. ‘Epstein was a big donor and he heard about Nadia and that her father had died, so she was vulnerable, and he contacted her. He said, ‘Here’s my number,’ Fary Bjorlin said. She said she got to know Maxwell, who then tried to set up a meeting between Nadia and Epstein.

     

    Epstein and Maxwell tried to entice another 13 year-old girl (soap star Nadia Bjorlin) into prostitution. Fortunately, they did not succeed.

    Summary: The Interlochen Academy is a prestigious private school in Michigan. It costs around $100,000/yr to attend. Jeffrey Epstein donated a lot of money to the school and had an official "Scholarship Lodge" built near campus. Once a year, Epstein and his "madame" Ghislaine Maxwell visited. They were spotted walking around campus. Epstein and Maxwell enticed a 13 year-old Interlochen student into prostitution. Epstein had Interlochen alumni over to his mansion.

    Replies: @anon, @BenKenobi, @Jaroslav Hašek, @Reg Cæsar, @BB753, @Verymuchalive

    Alan Dershowitz ( Not ):
    Every High School should have a Jewish Pedophile-in-Residence, even if it’s only one week a year. Its part of who we are.

  49. @NJ Transit Commuter
    For an politician, you’d think she’d be a better speaker. How about reading through your prepared remarks a couple times before delivering them?

    Replies: @sayless, @Verymuchalive

    Aw c’mon, Transit man. You’re at Chez Sailer, the home of HBD and you still don’t get it.
    The average IQ of a Somali adult is 68 ! ( IQ of an average 8 year old white European )
    See here:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
    And here:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321527992_A_Study_of_Sex_Differences_in_Intelligence_of_Somali_Refugees_in_Kenya

    Even if Ilhan Omar is exceptionally clever by Somali standards, she likely still has a two-figure IQ. She likely reads through a script prepared by someone reasonably intelligent, but may have difficulty remembering the lines, hence her ” blurt outs”.

    • Agree: West reanimator
    • Replies: @Cato
    @Verymuchalive

    But you have to admit, she looks pretty good. Maybe that's all the voters care about (above and beyond that she is the Flight-from-White candidate).

  50. I’m still waiting for her to get deported for immigration fraud. Holding my breath.

    • Agree: sayless
  51. @Reg Cæsar
    Ever notice that the only Somalis you ever hear of in public life are women? Politicians and models.The

    Other than the odd panicky beat cop, can you name even one Somaliman of note in the West?

    Replies: @Pontius

    Why yes, Trudeau’s former immigration (!!!!!!!) minister.

    “On October 31, 2018, Hussen announced that the Government of Canada had updated its multi-year immigration levels plan, which would see the number of new immigrants in Canada rise to 350,000 by 2021. This plan was to see immigration levels rise by 40,000 more than Canada’s target of 310,000 immigrants in 2018.[20] The planned increases were set to reflect needs in the economic class of immigration to aid with Canada’s labour shortages, as well as in humanitarian streams of immigration.[21]

    In a 2018, Angus Reid Institute poll found that Hussen is one of the least popular ministers in Trudeau’s cabinet.”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Pontius

    All those new immigrants voted Justine back into power.

  52. @Abolish_public_education
    ‘wiki’ says that her dad ultimately established a career at the USPS. She attended public schools (where she was bullied, naturally).

    Omar has been “working” in the public sector for her entire, adult life.

    Native-born tax leeches are bad enough. It drives me nuts that we import leeches.

    The Government should be prohibited from schooling immigrant kids, hiring immigrant adults, and so forth.

    Replies: @sayless, @PSR

    A big step would be to simply ban all immigration from Mohammedan countries. It goes without saying that there are many fine people who are Mohammedan, but those cultures do not understand the west or what is expected to be part of a western society.

  53. Is anyone worse than this ungrateful scam artist? I know Ayanna Pressley is trying her best to outdo Omar, but it’s a tall mountain to climb. Rashida Talib has potential, but I think the Palestinians have met their match in the grifter from Somalia. AOC looks like Mary Poppins in comparison.

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
    @Mr. Grey

    All of those named slags, and many other Gubbamint ambulatory turds, have Congressional Protective Service hired gun bodyguards.
    Jared "Chabad Bloody Chicken Swinger" Kushner enjoys Secret Service protection, just like Big Mikey when it goes for fishing and perversion off of Martha's Vineyard.
    Your tax dollars at work...just as with the Affirmative Action asshats at USPS and VA.
    The Zionist Ruling Swine wouldn't have it any other way...
    may they twist impaled here and in Hell.

  54. @the one they call Desanex
    Representative Ilhan Abdullahi Omar =

    Here, men! (purr) I have tits, do labial, anal!

    Replies: @Known Fact

    This is epic! Now can you do the Gettysburg Address?

  55. @Ben tillman
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that usage has been making a bit of a comeback.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I think that usage has been making a bit of a comeback.

    Thank Sting.

  56. @bruce county
    The most vulnerable people in America are whites. The most vulnerable race on the planet are whites.
    Ilhan we don't need you!!! You need us.

    Replies: @Richard B

    The most vulnerable race on the planet are whites.

    One reason they’re the most vulnerable race in the world is because they’re the most valuable. Not because I said so. But because the one thing, above all else, that separates Whites from every other race is their drive toward reality. With every other race, with the possible exception of the Japanese, the drive toward belief comes first, always.

    This is no small thing. Because you can’t sustain a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever before without living a commitment to reality. The lack of it today is exactly why everything is falling apart.

    This drive toward reality is best seen in the willingness and ability Whites (certainly not all, obviously) to expose their ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction. It was the very foundation of our educational system until not all that long ago.

    Which, of course, is exactly why they wanted to get rid of it and did. I’ll leave it to the reader to figure out who they are.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    "I am the angel of reality,
    Seen for a moment,
    Standing in the door.
    ...I am the necessary angel of earth,
    Since, in my sight,
    You see the earth again."

    -- Stevens, "Angel Surrounded by Paisans"

    Replies: @Richard B

  57. Intifada, antifa. The Marxist/third world uprising in America – The Antifafa.

    Omar is a brilliant argument against Muslim immigration into the West.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  58. Yes, the neglected

  59. @kaganovitch
    @Bernard

    Still, how can any group of Americans hate the country as much as would be required to vote for this woman?

    See, you have to check your premises.

    Replies: @GSR

    The problem is, Minneapolis has many, many non-Americans who are foreign born like her, now citizens, and now vote…. For her.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @GSR

    Her district is 63% white. The previous occupant was Keith Ellison. Note, she was challenged in a primary this year by a black lawyer with satisfactory manners. She wins anyway. What explains her presence in Congress is an impulse to vandalism. The voters are taking a rock and throwing it through a plate glass window.

  60. @Richard B
    @bruce county


    The most vulnerable race on the planet are whites.
     
    One reason they're the most vulnerable race in the world is because they're the most valuable. Not because I said so. But because the one thing, above all else, that separates Whites from every other race is their drive toward reality. With every other race, with the possible exception of the Japanese, the drive toward belief comes first, always.

    This is no small thing. Because you can't sustain a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever before without living a commitment to reality. The lack of it today is exactly why everything is falling apart.


    This drive toward reality is best seen in the willingness and ability Whites (certainly not all, obviously) to expose their ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction. It was the very foundation of our educational system until not all that long ago.

    Which, of course, is exactly why they wanted to get rid of it and did. I'll leave it to the reader to figure out who they are.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “I am the angel of reality,
    Seen for a moment,
    Standing in the door.
    …I am the necessary angel of earth,
    Since, in my sight,
    You see the earth again.”

    — Stevens, “Angel Surrounded by Paisans”

    • Thanks: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Cleared of its stiff and stubborn, man-locked set,
    And, in my hearing, you hear the tragic drone
     
    One of the greatest artists of the 20th century, or ever. If Americans valued their artists and thinkers more we might not be in the position we're in. But we are. A big part of the reason, if not the reason, can be found in "the stiff and stubborn, man-locked set" of both the Left and Right.

    Time for a return of the necessary Angel, and, "a new knowledge of reality."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  61. @GSR
    @kaganovitch

    The problem is, Minneapolis has many, many non-Americans who are foreign born like her, now citizens, and now vote.... For her.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Her district is 63% white. The previous occupant was Keith Ellison. Note, she was challenged in a primary this year by a black lawyer with satisfactory manners. She wins anyway. What explains her presence in Congress is an impulse to vandalism. The voters are taking a rock and throwing it through a plate glass window.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  62. The only thing worse for a non-White than living in a racist America built by White bigots is not being allowed to immigrate to a racist America built by White bigots.

    It never gets old.

  63. @Jaroslav Hašek
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Remember the “satanic panic” at the McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, CA circa 1983? You and your hysterical fellow travelers have fallen for the modern day equivalent of that fiasco. You’ve got NOTHING. Your so-called “evidence” is laughable, but that doesn’t stop you from posting this drivel here, off topic, to feed your prurient obsession. Give it a rest, man.

    Replies: @HA

    “You and your hysterical fellow travelers have fallen for the modern day equivalent of that [Satanic panic child-care] fiasco… Give it a rest, man.”

    Save your breath. If he’s not a pedophile himself (which wouldn’t surprise me), he’s one of their useful idiots. Maybe he’s paid to do what he does, or maybe he’s dumb and blind enough to do it for free.

    Because every single time the topic of pedophilia is mentioned, here comes JohnnyWalker123, ready to steer the conversation down some freakish tangent. Maybe it’ll be about the Rothschilds this time, or the Podestas, or Jeffrey Epstein, or the Illuminati, or Stanley Kubrick movies, or Satanic rituals, or Pizzagate. And sure enough, the conspiracy lemmings will gobble it up and then it’s down some weird rabbit hole after that. The kind of weirdness that — after the McMartin/Amirault debacles — no DA will touch for fear he might get laughed out of office. Every single time. Is that just a coincidence?

    Don’t get me wrong. Of course there are powerful people in government, finance, Hollywood, the military, rock stars, rappers, etc., who are pedophiles or who have a thing for teens, in addition to the other adult sex workers they traffic. But mostly, they’re truck drivers, coaches, pediatricians, scoutmasters, etc. People a lot like the rest of us, hiding in plain sight. Were the groomers of Rotherham among the elites? Was Prince Andrew one of their clients? I doubt it. And yet, their victims are just as violated as those Epstein abused, even if they didn’t get inaugurated into the Grand Order of Marina Abramovich’s Vestal Virgins, or get taken down to Chuck Norris’s pedo-dungeons, or whatever other weird tale JohnnyWalker123 and people like him are going to spin this time around.

    And pedophile rings are definitely real, too. The victims of Operation Cathedral are, for the most part, still unidentified (we’re talking only 17 out of more than a thousand). In fact, they had to kick some countries’ police departments out of the operation because they couldn’t provide sufficient assurances that their police wouldn’t just tip off the suspects in their locales. That’s pretty sick enough. But since it’s actually real, it’s not for JohnnyWalker123 — no, he’s going to make sure all that gets lost in some Eyes-Wide-Shut fever dream.

    He’s either like one of those atheists who only care about pedophilia if a Catholic priest is involved (i.e., he doesn’t care at all), or else he’s something even more sinister. If at some point he actually started caring about stopping real, actual pedophile rings (or even pedophilia as it actually exists for the most part, which is in family, or quasi-family situations), he might eventually steer the conversation back to them instead of continuing his one-man disinformation campaign. But I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  64. I always give Chic Omar credit for honesty.

  65. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    "I am the angel of reality,
    Seen for a moment,
    Standing in the door.
    ...I am the necessary angel of earth,
    Since, in my sight,
    You see the earth again."

    -- Stevens, "Angel Surrounded by Paisans"

    Replies: @Richard B

    Cleared of its stiff and stubborn, man-locked set,
    And, in my hearing, you hear the tragic drone

    One of the greatest artists of the 20th century, or ever. If Americans valued their artists and thinkers more we might not be in the position we’re in. But we are. A big part of the reason, if not the reason, can be found in “the stiff and stubborn, man-locked set” of both the Left and Right.

    Time for a return of the necessary Angel, and, “a new knowledge of reality.”

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Agreed. Though what's funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful. Stevens was a great artist, but apparently he had lousy taste in art.

    But, there's a metaphor hiding in there somewhere: something clumsy and ugly inspires in another man a thing of elegance and insight. What a world, what a world.

    Replies: @Kibernetika, @Richard B

  66. She is basically a retard and is barely human. It’s not just IQ. According to the WHO one in three Somalis has mental health problems.

    She and her people don’t belong in civilized European and derived countries.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Amerimutt Golems

    It's probably from millennia of inbreeding.
    By the way, do we know yet if she married her brother?

  67. @Mr. Grey
    Is anyone worse than this ungrateful scam artist? I know Ayanna Pressley is trying her best to outdo Omar, but it's a tall mountain to climb. Rashida Talib has potential, but I think the Palestinians have met their match in the grifter from Somalia. AOC looks like Mary Poppins in comparison.

    Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe

    All of those named slags, and many other Gubbamint ambulatory turds, have Congressional Protective Service hired gun bodyguards.
    Jared “Chabad Bloody Chicken Swinger” Kushner enjoys Secret Service protection, just like Big Mikey when it goes for fishing and perversion off of Martha’s Vineyard.
    Your tax dollars at work…just as with the Affirmative Action asshats at USPS and VA.
    The Zionist Ruling Swine wouldn’t have it any other way…
    may they twist impaled here and in Hell.

  68. @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Cleared of its stiff and stubborn, man-locked set,
    And, in my hearing, you hear the tragic drone
     
    One of the greatest artists of the 20th century, or ever. If Americans valued their artists and thinkers more we might not be in the position we're in. But we are. A big part of the reason, if not the reason, can be found in "the stiff and stubborn, man-locked set" of both the Left and Right.

    Time for a return of the necessary Angel, and, "a new knowledge of reality."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Agreed. Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful. Stevens was a great artist, but apparently he had lousy taste in art.

    But, there’s a metaphor hiding in there somewhere: something clumsy and ugly inspires in another man a thing of elegance and insight. What a world, what a world.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.

    Thanks. Tal-Coat's stuff is beautiful.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.
     
    It'd even be funnier if it was intentionally dreadful. In any event, Stevens' response to the poem reminded me of this from Nietzsche.

    Aphorism 276 of The Gay Science:


    "I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who makes things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer."
     
    I think the entirety of Stevens' work could be seen from this perspective. And, let's face it, as perspectives go, it's not a bad one.

    In any event, regarding this article, it's obvious that people like Omar and the hostile elite who put her where she is, and all of their cabal of proxies, are all dedicated to making things ugly, very ugly.

    No idea is worth killing others over. But some ideas are worth fighting against. And the idea of making the world ugly is definitely one of them. I know that might sound like a contradiction of Nietzsche's above quote. But, that's ok. After all, he approved of contradictions.

    In the end, and in order to act, we have to make a choice.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  69. @Lot
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say "austerity."

    Notice is the massive uptalking too, not only do sentences all sound like questions, so do clauses ending in commas and random words.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say “austerity.”

    Yep, wonder who her writers are. (I think I know.)

    I learned the word austerity around 1974 in New York, when the City was down and out. My mudda explained that austerity meant “no more expensive stuff; try to conserve your existing resources.”

    The 1974 me watches Rep. Omar and shouts, “Hey lady, get the hell outta here! We don’t need you, but we respect you. God blesss you and be on your way.”

    Ad the 2020 me would add: “Eat me.”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Kibernetika

    Ad the 2020 me would add: “Eat me.”

    What does the October, 1993 "you" have to say?

    Replies: @Kibernetika

  70. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Agreed. Though what's funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful. Stevens was a great artist, but apparently he had lousy taste in art.

    But, there's a metaphor hiding in there somewhere: something clumsy and ugly inspires in another man a thing of elegance and insight. What a world, what a world.

    Replies: @Kibernetika, @Richard B

    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.

    Thanks. Tal-Coat’s stuff is beautiful.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Kibernetika

    A lot of his stuff is beautiful, agreed. But c'mon, that one is just awful. It's drunk Cezanne with a migraine and paralysis in his brush hand. I mean just look at it.

    But also, I like the story of Tal-Coat's life, the dude really lived.

    Maybe Stevens bought the ugly one because it was the only thing on the market. I once tried to buy a painting by Don Van Vliet/Captain Beefheart, but the good ones were out of my price range, the only things I could afford were rubbish.

  71. @Verymuchalive
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Aw c'mon, Transit man. You're at Chez Sailer, the home of HBD and you still don't get it.
    The average IQ of a Somali adult is 68 ! ( IQ of an average 8 year old white European )
    See here:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
    And here:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321527992_A_Study_of_Sex_Differences_in_Intelligence_of_Somali_Refugees_in_Kenya

    Even if Ilhan Omar is exceptionally clever by Somali standards, she likely still has a two-figure IQ. She likely reads through a script prepared by someone reasonably intelligent, but may have difficulty remembering the lines, hence her " blurt outs".

    Replies: @Cato

    But you have to admit, she looks pretty good. Maybe that’s all the voters care about (above and beyond that she is the Flight-from-White candidate).

  72. @Kibernetika
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.

    Thanks. Tal-Coat's stuff is beautiful.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    A lot of his stuff is beautiful, agreed. But c’mon, that one is just awful. It’s drunk Cezanne with a migraine and paralysis in his brush hand. I mean just look at it.

    But also, I like the story of Tal-Coat’s life, the dude really lived.

    Maybe Stevens bought the ugly one because it was the only thing on the market. I once tried to buy a painting by Don Van Vliet/Captain Beefheart, but the good ones were out of my price range, the only things I could afford were rubbish.

  73. @Kibernetika
    @Lot

    No way she wrote that. Took her a while to recognize and remember how to say “austerity.”

    Yep, wonder who her writers are. (I think I know.)

    I learned the word austerity around 1974 in New York, when the City was down and out. My mudda explained that austerity meant "no more expensive stuff; try to conserve your existing resources."

    The 1974 me watches Rep. Omar and shouts, "Hey lady, get the hell outta here! We don't need you, but we respect you. God blesss you and be on your way."

    Ad the 2020 me would add: "Eat me."

    Replies: @anon

    Ad the 2020 me would add: “Eat me.”

    What does the October, 1993 “you” have to say?

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @anon

    What does the October, 1993 “you” have to say?

    Can you be more specific?

  74. @Amerimutt Golems
    She is basically a retard and is barely human. It's not just IQ. According to the WHO one in three Somalis has mental health problems.

    She and her people don't belong in civilized European and derived countries.

    Replies: @Buck Ransom

    It’s probably from millennia of inbreeding.
    By the way, do we know yet if she married her brother?

  75. They all need to go back.

  76. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Agreed. Though what's funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful. Stevens was a great artist, but apparently he had lousy taste in art.

    But, there's a metaphor hiding in there somewhere: something clumsy and ugly inspires in another man a thing of elegance and insight. What a world, what a world.

    Replies: @Kibernetika, @Richard B

    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.

    It’d even be funnier if it was intentionally dreadful. In any event, Stevens’ response to the poem reminded me of this from Nietzsche.

    Aphorism 276 of The Gay Science:

    “I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who makes things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.”

    I think the entirety of Stevens’ work could be seen from this perspective. And, let’s face it, as perspectives go, it’s not a bad one.

    In any event, regarding this article, it’s obvious that people like Omar and the hostile elite who put her where she is, and all of their cabal of proxies, are all dedicated to making things ugly, very ugly.

    No idea is worth killing others over. But some ideas are worth fighting against. And the idea of making the world ugly is definitely one of them. I know that might sound like a contradiction of Nietzsche’s above quote. But, that’s ok. After all, he approved of contradictions.

    In the end, and in order to act, we have to make a choice.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Well said.

    Nietzsche: "on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer."

    I can roll with that. Once again, Stevens nails it:

    "After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends."

    -- "The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard"

    Believe it or not, I once used that couplet to successfully get laid. And boy was she a looker. It lasted about six weeks. Thanks, Wally!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Richard B

  77. @Pontius
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why yes, Trudeau's former immigration (!!!!!!!) minister.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ahmed_Hussen_at_the_Toronto_Caribbean_Carnival_-_2017_(36258275322).jpg



    "On October 31, 2018, Hussen announced that the Government of Canada had updated its multi-year immigration levels plan, which would see the number of new immigrants in Canada rise to 350,000 by 2021. This plan was to see immigration levels rise by 40,000 more than Canada's target of 310,000 immigrants in 2018.[20] The planned increases were set to reflect needs in the economic class of immigration to aid with Canada's labour shortages, as well as in humanitarian streams of immigration.[21]

    In a 2018, Angus Reid Institute poll found that Hussen is one of the least popular ministers in Trudeau's cabinet."

    Replies: @anon

    All those new immigrants voted Justine back into power.

  78. @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Though what’s funny is, the painting by Tal Coat (that Stevens owned) which inspired the poem is utterly dreadful.
     
    It'd even be funnier if it was intentionally dreadful. In any event, Stevens' response to the poem reminded me of this from Nietzsche.

    Aphorism 276 of The Gay Science:


    "I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who makes things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer."
     
    I think the entirety of Stevens' work could be seen from this perspective. And, let's face it, as perspectives go, it's not a bad one.

    In any event, regarding this article, it's obvious that people like Omar and the hostile elite who put her where she is, and all of their cabal of proxies, are all dedicated to making things ugly, very ugly.

    No idea is worth killing others over. But some ideas are worth fighting against. And the idea of making the world ugly is definitely one of them. I know that might sound like a contradiction of Nietzsche's above quote. But, that's ok. After all, he approved of contradictions.

    In the end, and in order to act, we have to make a choice.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well said.

    Nietzsche: “on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.”

    I can roll with that. Once again, Stevens nails it:

    “After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends.”

    — “The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard”

    Believe it or not, I once used that couplet to successfully get laid. And boy was she a looker. It lasted about six weeks. Thanks, Wally!

    • Thanks: Richard B
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    A whole lot of high class poetry, like Marvel's To His Coy Mistress and perhaps The Wasteland, are similar.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    “After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends.”

    — “The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard”
     

    My favorite of his. Especially the end.

    "It can never be satisfied, the mind, never."

    Of course, it depends on the mind.

    By the way, I meant to hit the LOL option in response to your using Wally to get laid.

    But thanks for the exchange just the same.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  79. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Well said.

    Nietzsche: "on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer."

    I can roll with that. Once again, Stevens nails it:

    "After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends."

    -- "The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard"

    Believe it or not, I once used that couplet to successfully get laid. And boy was she a looker. It lasted about six weeks. Thanks, Wally!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Richard B

    A whole lot of high class poetry, like Marvel’s To His Coy Mistress and perhaps The Wasteland, are similar.

    • Agree: Kibernetika
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    "Teach not thy lip such scorn:
    For it was made for kissing, lady,
    Not for such contempt."

    -- Richard III to Lady Anne, during the funeral of her father, whom Richard himself had murdered, and she knew it. And she falls for him.

    The absolute greatest nuclear Alpha Game move of all time.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

  80. @Steve Sailer
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    A whole lot of high class poetry, like Marvel's To His Coy Mistress and perhaps The Wasteland, are similar.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Teach not thy lip such scorn:
    For it was made for kissing, lady,
    Not for such contempt.”

    — Richard III to Lady Anne, during the funeral of her father, whom Richard himself had murdered, and she knew it. And she falls for him.

    The absolute greatest nuclear Alpha Game move of all time.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Have you read widely among the Russian poets? You would dig them, IMHO.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  81. @anon
    @Kibernetika

    Ad the 2020 me would add: “Eat me.”

    What does the October, 1993 "you" have to say?

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    What does the October, 1993 “you” have to say?

    Can you be more specific?

  82. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    "Teach not thy lip such scorn:
    For it was made for kissing, lady,
    Not for such contempt."

    -- Richard III to Lady Anne, during the funeral of her father, whom Richard himself had murdered, and she knew it. And she falls for him.

    The absolute greatest nuclear Alpha Game move of all time.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    Have you read widely among the Russian poets? You would dig them, IMHO.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Kibernetika

    I read a lot of Akhmatova, who is magnificent in any language; also read a fair bit of Osip Mandelstam, Joseph Brodsky, and Nadezhda Mandelstam's frightening memoir, Hope Against Hope. Brodsky's essays are a scream and a half. Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn't really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    I can understand the problem: I can't imagine that Frank O'Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can't travel. Quelle dommage.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

  83. @Kibernetika
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Have you read widely among the Russian poets? You would dig them, IMHO.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I read a lot of Akhmatova, who is magnificent in any language; also read a fair bit of Osip Mandelstam, Joseph Brodsky, and Nadezhda Mandelstam’s frightening memoir, Hope Against Hope. Brodsky’s essays are a scream and a half. Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn’t really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    I can understand the problem: I can’t imagine that Frank O’Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can’t travel. Quelle dommage.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn’t really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    Ah, if you've got a friend who can do quality translations that's a big help! There are perhaps 200 in the USA who can do that (a generous estimate). Everyone is supposed to love Pushkin, it goes without saying, but he never captured my interest the way the Russian "street brawler" poets just before and after the 1917 revolution did.

    I can understand the problem: I can’t imagine that Frank O’Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can’t travel. Quelle dommage.

    I've never read Carroll; will be sure to check him out. Did read O'Hara and he definitely was good. He's not a guy that I've reread much, but he was very talented.

    BTW, O'Hara's "True Account of Talking to the sun at Fire Island" is a hat tip to my favorite poet, Vladimir Mayakovsky. When I croak, I will be cremated with my copy of Mayakovsky's complete works in one volume (Polnoe sobranio v odnom tome).

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  84. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    Well said.

    Nietzsche: "on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer."

    I can roll with that. Once again, Stevens nails it:

    "After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends."

    -- "The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard"

    Believe it or not, I once used that couplet to successfully get laid. And boy was she a looker. It lasted about six weeks. Thanks, Wally!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Richard B

    “After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends.”

    — “The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard”

    My favorite of his. Especially the end.

    “It can never be satisfied, the mind, never.”

    Of course, it depends on the mind.

    By the way, I meant to hit the LOL option in response to your using Wally to get laid.

    But thanks for the exchange just the same.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Richard B

    When I was a teenager, there was an art gallery in Soho which every year on New Year's Eve (well, New Year's Day, actually, considering the time) used to host a laid-back after-party starting around 2 AM. the focus of the gathering was, they set up a lectern and selected a particular text, often Finnegans Wake, and let a line of people come up to read selections from it, in sequence. A lot of famous people would show up to read a snippet. The idea was, you'd stagger in from your New Year's revels, sit down on the floor on a cushion and sober up, while all these people read aloud.

    One year the text was "The Man With the Blue Guitar." I was sixteen, and I was hooked!

    My favorite American poets are Stevens, Frank O'Hara, and the "North of Boston"-era Robert Frost. As it happens, all three went to Harvard, as I also did. I used to walk around those streets, thinking, Man, Stevens stood on this street corner! Frank O'Hara probably sat at this very table where I'm sitting now!

    It was a weird experience. One of the reasons I comment here, and one of the reasons I name-check so much, is that I'm positive there are very bright young people lurking here who don't want their teachers find out, and I'm dropping breadcrumbs for them to follow the trail home. I had the advantage of growing up in a cultural rain forest, not the desert we have now. So, pay it forward.

  85. @Richard B
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    “After the final No, there comes a Yes,
    And on that Yes the future world depends.”

    — “The Well-Dressed Man With A Beard”
     

    My favorite of his. Especially the end.

    "It can never be satisfied, the mind, never."

    Of course, it depends on the mind.

    By the way, I meant to hit the LOL option in response to your using Wally to get laid.

    But thanks for the exchange just the same.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    When I was a teenager, there was an art gallery in Soho which every year on New Year’s Eve (well, New Year’s Day, actually, considering the time) used to host a laid-back after-party starting around 2 AM. the focus of the gathering was, they set up a lectern and selected a particular text, often Finnegans Wake, and let a line of people come up to read selections from it, in sequence. A lot of famous people would show up to read a snippet. The idea was, you’d stagger in from your New Year’s revels, sit down on the floor on a cushion and sober up, while all these people read aloud.

    One year the text was “The Man With the Blue Guitar.” I was sixteen, and I was hooked!

    My favorite American poets are Stevens, Frank O’Hara, and the “North of Boston”-era Robert Frost. As it happens, all three went to Harvard, as I also did. I used to walk around those streets, thinking, Man, Stevens stood on this street corner! Frank O’Hara probably sat at this very table where I’m sitting now!

    It was a weird experience. One of the reasons I comment here, and one of the reasons I name-check so much, is that I’m positive there are very bright young people lurking here who don’t want their teachers find out, and I’m dropping breadcrumbs for them to follow the trail home. I had the advantage of growing up in a cultural rain forest, not the desert we have now. So, pay it forward.

  86. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Kibernetika

    I read a lot of Akhmatova, who is magnificent in any language; also read a fair bit of Osip Mandelstam, Joseph Brodsky, and Nadezhda Mandelstam's frightening memoir, Hope Against Hope. Brodsky's essays are a scream and a half. Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn't really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    I can understand the problem: I can't imagine that Frank O'Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can't travel. Quelle dommage.

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn’t really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    Ah, if you’ve got a friend who can do quality translations that’s a big help! There are perhaps 200 in the USA who can do that (a generous estimate). Everyone is supposed to love Pushkin, it goes without saying, but he never captured my interest the way the Russian “street brawler” poets just before and after the 1917 revolution did.

    I can understand the problem: I can’t imagine that Frank O’Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can’t travel. Quelle dommage.

    I’ve never read Carroll; will be sure to check him out. Did read O’Hara and he definitely was good. He’s not a guy that I’ve reread much, but he was very talented.

    BTW, O’Hara’s “True Account of Talking to the sun at Fire Island” is a hat tip to my favorite poet, Vladimir Mayakovsky. When I croak, I will be cremated with my copy of Mayakovsky’s complete works in one volume (Polnoe sobranio v odnom tome).

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    @Kibernetika

    Glad to hear you dig Frank's "True Account." He too loved Mayakovsky -- one of his mottos was M's great line, "In the church of my heart, the choir is on fire!" I don't know the Russian original, but that strikes me as very good translation work. I have a very funny story about a friend's stage production of "Mystery-Bouffe" but it takes too long to tell.

    If you're going to read Jim Carroll, stick with his brilliant first book, "Living at the Movies". He was never really able to capture that sort of magic again, his later work is tepid, stay away. He wrote "Living" mostly as a teenager, and there's a weird teenage drug-addled energy that animates the book and gives it spirit.

    Akhmatova of course transcends translation, she's just incandescent. You could understand her in Pygmy sign language.

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    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Never cared for Pushkin, although a friend of mine did a splendid translation. The real problem for me is, people I know who read Russian tell me that a guy like Brodsky doesn’t really fully come through in translation, you really have to read it in Russian, which is of course beyond my ability.

    Ah, if you've got a friend who can do quality translations that's a big help! There are perhaps 200 in the USA who can do that (a generous estimate). Everyone is supposed to love Pushkin, it goes without saying, but he never captured my interest the way the Russian "street brawler" poets just before and after the 1917 revolution did.

    I can understand the problem: I can’t imagine that Frank O’Hara or Jim Carroll can really be translated; the cranky, nutty, native turns of phrase, the personal little things that make them so fresh and hilarious in English probably can’t travel. Quelle dommage.

    I've never read Carroll; will be sure to check him out. Did read O'Hara and he definitely was good. He's not a guy that I've reread much, but he was very talented.

    BTW, O'Hara's "True Account of Talking to the sun at Fire Island" is a hat tip to my favorite poet, Vladimir Mayakovsky. When I croak, I will be cremated with my copy of Mayakovsky's complete works in one volume (Polnoe sobranio v odnom tome).

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Glad to hear you dig Frank’s “True Account.” He too loved Mayakovsky — one of his mottos was M’s great line, “In the church of my heart, the choir is on fire!” I don’t know the Russian original, but that strikes me as very good translation work. I have a very funny story about a friend’s stage production of “Mystery-Bouffe” but it takes too long to tell.

    If you’re going to read Jim Carroll, stick with his brilliant first book, “Living at the Movies”. He was never really able to capture that sort of magic again, his later work is tepid, stay away. He wrote “Living” mostly as a teenager, and there’s a weird teenage drug-addled energy that animates the book and gives it spirit.

    Akhmatova of course transcends translation, she’s just incandescent. You could understand her in Pygmy sign language.

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