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From the New York Times news section:

Jaylon Ferguson, Baltimore Ravens Linebacker, Died From an Overdose

The medical examiner’s office in Maryland said that he died from the combined effects of fentanyl and cocaine and that his death was ruled accidental.

By McKenna Oxenden
July 1, 2022, 4:44 p.m. ET

Quite a few professional athletes have been dying young lately. For instance, two recent NFL first round draft picks died in car crashes (and a third survived a 156 mph crash but killed a women he ran into). A U. of Kentucky basketball player who was headed tabbed an NBA first round draft pick also died driving.

These anecdotes probably tie into the big surge of bad driving among blacks after George Floyd’s death.

From abroad, there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines. On the other hand, I don’t really have much of a sense of how big of a number are we talking about when we call somebody “a soccer player.”

And then there are drug overdose deaths, such as of a California Angels baseball player.

Overdoses lately are often due to the recent practice of mixing fentanyl into traditional recreational drugs like cocaine, meth, and even marijuana. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more. E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.

But, as Sam Quinones reports in his latest book, mixing white powders so you don’t wind up with a little fentanyl in one retail package and a lethal amount of fentanyl in another is a sizable technical challenge, one often well beyond drug dealers, who, in Quinones’ reporting, almost universally rely on the \$29.99 Magic Bullet blender, which is fine for mixing smoothies but terrible at mixing fentanyl and cocaine.

Fentanyl used to come from China, but then Beijing cracked down on their people making fentanyl and exporting it to the US. So now Chinese firms export the precursors of fentanyl to Mexico, where Mexicans make the final version of fentanyl and export it to the US.

Maybe we need a law doubling the sentence for dealing in cocaine or meth or marijuana if you also mix in fentanyl?

In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.

 
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  1. If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we’d be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Charon
    @Dave Pinsen

    https://i.ibb.co/H7g4Ztp/Capture-2022-06-25-05-56-58-2.png

    , @newrouter
    @Dave Pinsen

    "False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/"

    lol WAPO? lol You be a dumb son of an amy beech!!11!!

    , @epebble
    @Dave Pinsen

    focusing instead on Mexico

    We can't do much to solve our problems within this country but expect to solve our problems by focusing on foreign countries? Sounds like escapism.

    , @Recently Based
    @Dave Pinsen

    I haven't commented enough recently to just hit the agree button, but assuming you mean focus on the border with Mexico, I could not agree more strongly.

    , @Verymuchalive
    @Dave Pinsen

    https://www.newsweek.com/war-terror-cost-us-21-trillion-its-conflicts-killed-nearly-one-million-reports-show-1625114

    The $21 trillion the US spent on making the Middle East safe for Israel would never have happened.
    Think of all the Mexican border walls that could have been built: the modern infrastructure and other benefits. All for a fraction of that price.
    Best of all, America would be only semi-insolvent, instead of completely insolvent and waiting for its imminent economic collapse.

    , @Corvinus
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump had every opportunity to do that and failed Miserably. What makes you think that when he steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?

    Replies: @Clyde

  2. Try to keep your children away from ALL of it. When it comes to the pot though, you’re much safer growing your own now, and you may even learn you have a green thumb. Very bright green, haha.

    BTW, maybe the Mexicans are less competent, but I’d have have never expected good quality control out of China anyway. It’s bad enough they sell eggs made out of concrete. You’d be lucky to get high at all!

    .

    PS: So, would you possibly admit the vaccine may not be such a great risk for a young person? (OK, I don’t wanna start a thing here …)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Speaking of quality control, S/B "... but I'd have never expected..."

    , @Jimmy1969
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Why not just legalize it and buy it in government controlled stores like they do up in Canada. It is safe and you know what you are getting.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    , @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it.
     
    That's the gist of it. Drugs are one of those things that just cry out for "separate nations".

    I have no interest in telling anyone who really wants to, "hey don't poison yourself with meth, fentanyl, heroin ...".

    But I do not want any of in my community. I have no interest in having this low-life garage around. Not driving the streets. Not stealing stuff. Not trying to sell it to my kids. Not in "drug treatment" on my taxpayer dime. Not around period. And most--or at least a whole, whole lot--of normal people feel the same way. We're entitled to live in communities with our norms.

    Minoritarianism is the ideology that normal productive people must bend over for looting by various minority parasites. That's crap. Utter crap. Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

    Let the druggies have their druggy paradise where they can rot in hell. But those of us who don't want it have our turf--and you bring that shit here--you're done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JR Ewing

  3. This seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    • Agree: PaceLaw, Jay Fink
    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Matthew Kelly

    I totally agree with you Matthew. This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-jaylon-ferguson-fiancee-ravens-death-20220701-iuuiepjhyndtzflu53zck7k3ka-story.html

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Brutusale

    , @ic1000
    @Matthew Kelly

    > [Skyrocketing fatal fentanyl overdose rates] seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Most of us have friends and family who do reckless and stupid things, often as a side effect of being young. Best if it's a one-off, but sometimes bad judgement lasts a week, a year, decades. My preference is for people to have more not fewer chances to straighten out their lives.

    So the world is better when body counts from auto accidents, overdoses, and shootings are lower.

    Read Sam Quinones' account of Flyover Country deindustrialization and decline, Dreamland. Zero sympathy for the deaths of despair that he chronicles?

    (Apologies if I missed the [sarc] tag on your comment.)

    , @epebble
    @Matthew Kelly

    I agree that State should generally tread lightly on voluntary deaths (suicide and suicide-lite) and use its limited resources on preventing involuntary deaths. However, in this case, many an innocent user is falling prey to adulterated legal drugs and hence there is a role for the state to prevent, what is effectively, pharmaceutical homicide.

    , @Muggles
    @Matthew Kelly

    Although the stats would be hard to dig up, I wonder what the black/non black death rate is for athlete/celebrity fentanyl related overdose deaths?

    It isn't a totally black thing but in general blacks (Blacks!) are seen in news accounts far more than non blacks for being arrested under the influence, with drugs, or in ERs or morgues due to drugs.

    While blacks are a larger percentage of most pro sports athletes, I suspect their deaths or ODs are even higher than their participation rates. Celebs too.

    This was always a dangerous and legally problematic habit, but with fentanyl now included and seldom disclosed or carefully added, it can be a death sentence. Drug using homeless zombies are often users, and from some accounts they die after leaving some rehab stint. Opioids build up tolerances in users but if you clean up, and then re-use at former dosages, you may die.

    Musicians (e.g. Tom Petty) seem to succumb after coming off of a long tour. Maybe clean during the tour, but afterwards the "celebration" gets them.

    Low class black culture is often very tolerant of hard drug use. St. George Floyd was sent on church funded rehab stints in Minneapolis several times. When he died it was fentanyl related.

    Some Whites pick up this bad habit too. From what little data I have seen, not as common among Hispanics. Or Asians.

    Of course a lot of homeless zombies who OD are Whites. That "lifestyle" seems to attract the lowest common denominator.

    If recreational drugs were legally sold, you would likely have known ingredients and tort liability for selling mixed adulterated drugs with dangerous levels of opioids. Purity tests.

    Not a magic solution to this problem, but might stop the wave of poisonous drugs sold with adulterants.

  4. @Achmed E. Newman
    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it. When it comes to the pot though, you're much safer growing your own now, and you may even learn you have a green thumb. Very bright green, haha.

    BTW, maybe the Mexicans are less competent, but I'd have have never expected good quality control out of China anyway. It's bad enough they sell eggs made out of concrete. You'd be lucky to get high at all!

    .


    PS: So, would you possibly admit the vaccine may not be such a great risk for a young person? (OK, I don't wanna start a thing here ...)

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimmy1969, @AnotherDad

    Speaking of quality control, S/B “… but I’d have never expected…”

  5. Maybe stay away from “recreational drugs” as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal — no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with “recreational drugs”? It could be interesting to find out.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Dumbo


    I guess they want a drugged-up population.
     
    The WEF-set is pushing the legalization of drugs because they want to sedate the hordes of useless-eaters they foresee after automation has destroyed millions of jobs. They want them to live as incels in a box in some urban ant-farm and eat bugs while anesthetizing themselves with drugs, entertainment, and VR.

    It's the soft-kill approach. If that doesn't work there is always the tried-and-true hard-kill approach. War.
    , @Cloudbuster
    @Dumbo

    did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with “recreational drugs”?

    They've done as little research on the effects of the vaccines as humanly possible. So of course not.

    , @megabar
    @Dumbo

    > Maybe stay away from “recreational drugs” as a matter of principle?

    Their argument would be that if these drugs are legal, they'd be regulated and safe. And they would be.

    But the real argument against drugs isn't that all drugs should be banned and never used. It's that drugs, as with all hedonic activities, should be viewed as an occasional indulgence and not as a crutch, way or life, or something to be proud of.

    In a way, I would support the notion that drug use should be "safe, legal, and rare." But given that many people can not help themselves, I'm not sure how best to do this.

    , @Pontius
    @Dumbo

    Gives you the munchies for bat soup.

    , @Dave from Oz
    @Dumbo

    No, it's not because "they" want a drugged-up population. "They" have already legalised the drugs they prefer the population to be on: caffeine at work, alcohol when not at work. Oh, and sugar. It's because drugs have always, always been a thing. Because - as one British jurist put it (approximately) - "the main reason our courts and prisons are overloaded is that a significant proportion of the population enjoys taking drugs, and nothing on earth can dissuade them from doing it".

    Much like no-fault divorce laws, legalisation of drugs is becoming a thing because society can't run the court system the way things are going. There simply aren't enough judges.

  6. “ In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.”

    Or get them quasi-legally from Big Pharma from doctors you find on social media ads.

    My instagram ads are about 20% shady doctors announcing they will be happy prescribe you on a Zoom video visit amphetamines, opioids, and ketamine. Also boner pills and HGH.

    The constant stream of ketamine ads was the biggest shock. Yes, k-hole is kinda legal now. When I was in college, it was a rave drug considered more hardcore than ecstasy, which remains illegal. From what I remember, it practice in puts people in a stupor similar to being very drunk.

    I have never seen an Instagram ad for benzodiazepines, e.g. valium and xanax. It may be because it is primarily women who take them and Zuckbook is aware I am a man.

    The other 80% of my Instagram ads are for food delivery services, possibly because I am a softie who says yes when a small restaurant owner asks me to “give us a follow.”

    • Replies: @Genetic Engineer
    @Pixo

    Ketamine therapy has been described as the first breakthrough in resistant depression treatment in 30+ years. The antidepressant effect appears to be strongest following time spent in the dissociative "stupor" induced by moderate doses, which for unclear reasons stimulates neural growth and improves error detection and overall cognitive functioning when administered at appropriate intervals (it's now being investigated for Alzheimer's as well). FDA-approved ketamine treatments like Spravato can only be administered in certified clinics, with patients remaining under physician supervision while acutely under the influence. Apart from the temporary disorientation it's quite a safe compound that's been used for decades at high doses for anesthesia and rapid sedation.

    , @Indifferent Contrarian
    @Pixo

    Ketamine is neither lethal nor particularly addictive (less than tobacco, much less than alcohol).
    High dosages on daily bases can ruin you bladder, though.
    Otherwise it's less harmful than alcohol with added benefits for depression and chronic pain that alcohol doesn't have.
    The dosages legally prescribed won't put you in a k-hole, more like a very drunken state, but mentally more lucid and calm.

  7. Fentanyl is cheap to produce largely due to its potency for weight relative to all of the other recreational drugs. Cocaine dealing also gets you mixed up in the supply chain of some pretty ruthless dudes who can reach out and kill you from Columbia if you lose product.

    So I’m not so sure they’re mixing fentanyl into cocaine and other things in order to make people think they got great cocaine so much as surreptitiously creating new fentanyl addicts by feeding fentanyl to people who wouldn’t intentionally take a dose of fentanyl. Opiates are profitable, but the problem with fentanyl in particular is that you tend to kill off your own customer base, so you need to recruit new ones. Most people are now aware that if you screw around with prescription opiates the cost will drive you to cheaper alternatives on the street and quickly to fentanyl.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    If these people are accidentally OD'ing on fentanyl because they don't know it's in there, how are they going to decide they don't actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  8. In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.

    Or shoot up in a public library. The librarians keep Narcan. But if you’re an addict, don’t mess with the veins in your thigh. That’s where the librarians are trained to inject you. They aren’t medical technicians who know how to poke around for an uncollapsed vein.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan
    @JimB

    Librarians tugging down my pants and grabbing my thigh is one of my favorite fantasies.😉

    , @Cloudbuster
    @JimB

    Narcan is administered IM (Intramuscularly). There's no searching around for a vein involved. Also, it's now often administered as a nasal spray, not an injection.

    , @Jay Fink
    @JimB

    I never knew that about libraries but am not surprised. The clientele at the downtown library in my city is majority drug addicted, mentally ill homeless. Many of these guys talk to themselves very loudly and the librarians never tell them to be quiet (isn't that what they used to be known for?). There is incredible negative energy in that building. It's an old library and I think to myself how civilized it must have been in decades past.

    It's really a shame that Narcan exists. The only chance we have of gaining any of our civility back is to let these addicts die when they OD. It's the natural order of things. Not having so many druggies in the population will make us a more decent and wholesome nation.

    Replies: @JimB

    , @Dumbo
    @JimB

    Are librarians trained to apply Narcan??

    It's weird to see public libraries in the U.S. having become day-cares for dirty homeless and drug addicts shooting heroin or watching internet porn, and no one doing anything about it.

    In most of Europe they still function as, well, libraries.

    Replies: @Onebelowall

  9. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

  10. The medical examiner’s office in Maryland said that he died from the combined effects of fentanyl and cocaine and that his death was ruled accidental.

    Yeah, but can we get a ruling from the medical examiner’s office in Minneapolis?

    • Replies: @Dchjk
    @Charon

    The only thing that can keep a black man from dying from Covid is a white cop’s knee.

  11. there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.

    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that “a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.”

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Thanks: Rob, MEH 0910
    • LOL: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D


    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.
     
    For a 20-something y/o soccer player?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Anon
    @Jack D

    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch's Substack. This will only get worse with each shot. Myocarditis is a death sentence. Takes about 8-10 years, but you get it, and you're gonna die.

    The shots have failed miserably. A map of who has Corona in East vs. West Germany is almost comic. West is heavily vaxxed and highly infected. East is highly unvaxxed and now enjoying real immunity as the term has heretofore been understood.

    Give up Jack.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Recently Based

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    False.
     
    Your claim of false is unproven. Perhaps even false. You actually expect us to believe politifact sponsored "fact-checking" laundered through WaPo? What a crock.

    They cherry-pick a few instances of "far-right websites" being loose with the facts and conclude that any claims of elevated death-rates for young athletes is false. That's horses**t. There do seem to have been a lot of news reports of soccer players dying over the last two years. Those were from mainstream media sources, not scary "far-right websites". Just this year, two high-school basketball players, one in Illinois and one in Texas, dropped dead on the court on the same day.

    Is all this statistically significant? I don't know. And certainly WaPo is never going to bother investigating if it is or not.

    Then of course they trot out the VAERS numbers and instantly pooh-pooh them. VAERS is self-reported. VAERS is unrealiable. The implication is that those evil anti-vaxxers file false reports just to queer the statistics. Then why the Hell does the CDC and FDA still maintain it? Here is the reporting site:

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

    which contains this warning:

    "Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment."

    Do they think there are a lot of people who will risk being hounded by the Feds just to make a point? By the way, how many people has the DoJ prosecuted for filing a false VAERS report?

    Your propaganda is weak. I suggest you find better.

    Replies: @jejej

    , @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    >ignore what you're seeing
    Hmmm ...
    >argument depends on admitting that vaccine doesn't work
    Yikes.
    >source is Bezos Blog
    OW!

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Jack D

    Nice try, Shlomo. You cunts just can't lie straight. The small hats must be too tight, cutting off circulation to important bits of your brain.


    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.
     
    What's your source for this? Some GPT3-vulnerable scribbler at Bezos' Blog, or the talking points distributed in the daily Zoom call for the 101st Hasbara Chairborne?

    The reason I ask is that the "peer reviewed literature" is strikingly at odds:

    Example 1: Odds Ratio of between 8 and 30 (as as high as 44) - see "Age and sex-specific risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 messenger RNA vaccines" - Nature Communications 13, 3633 (2022)

    The money quote:


    We perform matched case-control studies and find increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis during the first week following vaccination, and particularly after the second dose, with adjusted odds ratios of myocarditis of 8.1 (95% confidence interval [CI], 6.7 to 9.9) for the BNT162b2 and 30 (95% CI, 21 to 43) for the mRNA-1273 vaccine. The largest associations are observed for myocarditis following mRNA-1273 vaccination in persons aged 18 to 24 years. Estimates of excess cases attributable to vaccination also reveal a substantial burden of both myocarditis and pericarditis across other age groups and in both males and females.
     
    Likewise: this 'Comment' article in Lancet (Busby (2022) "COVID-19 mRNA vaccination and myocarditis or pericarditis") gives links to 8 or 9 peer-reviewed publications that make abundantly clear that the risks are substantially higher than the base-case.

    Money quote II:


    Similar to previous studies, Wong and colleagues observed higher than expected rates of myocarditis (and pericarditis, a closely related clinical presentation), specifically in individuals younger than 35 years, with the highest risk among men aged 18–25 years after their second COVID-19 mRNA vaccine dose. The absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, calculated as the incidence rate within 1–7 days of vaccination, for men aged 18–25 years after a second vaccination dose was 2·17 (95% CI 1·55–3·04) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Moderna vaccine, mRNA-1273, and 1·71 (1·31–2·23) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, BNT162b2.
     
    You go ahead and keep telling people there's nothing to see: humanity is far better off with fewer of the sorts of people that could be influenced by you and the rest of your cock-mutilation cult.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Mark G.
    @Jack D

    There were lots of reports of myocarditis and other health issues after mandatory military Covid vaccinations that were recorded in the DoD database used to track the health of military members. DoD spokesmen then said this was just due to a major "computer glitch" that went undetected for five years. I've worked with DoD computer systems for over 25 years and have never seen or heard of a major computer glitch going undetected for five years, so I find this implausible.

    There is a government cover up going on and the mainstream media is complicit in this. The general public, though, is becoming aware of the ineffectiveness and possible dangers of the vaccines and many governments now have a problem with lots of unused doses of the vaccines that no one wants. As a DoD employee, I was required to get vaccinated but there is no talk about requiring booster shots. They won't admit they made a mistake forcing us to get vaccinated but at least they are letting us make our own decision now on whether to get the booster shots.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @for-the-record
    @Jack D

    False.

    False.



    Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave

    While not establishing causal relationships, the findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side-effects and underscore the already established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z
     
    As someone once said, “a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.”

    Replies: @HA

    , @Truth
    @Jack D

    Is it False?

    https://thenewamerican.com/survey-more-than-750000-dead-30-million-injured-because-of-covid-vax/

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D

    Your opinion may or may not be right. But that WaPo "debunking" article is just plain stupid. It says nothing about how many young athletes have died or whether vaccine could have been a cause. It says risk from vaccine is low, says nothing about risk of corona to 20-something athletes, but then concludes with no data that risk A is lower than B.

    It then says that anyone who notices athletes dying and thinks it's strange is a "four Pinnochio" liar. The dishonesty, stupidity and arrogance of the MSM inevitably causes people who hate those qualities to believe the exact opposite of whatever they say.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Ian Smith
    @Jack D

    Conservatives in flyover country and liberals in urban bubbles are in an arms race to see who can be more retarded. “You believe Dr. Fauci is a Bond villain who unleashed a bio weapon on America that’s also just the flu? Well I believe a man wearing a dress is a woman!”

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Tempted to agree with you Jack, but i don't know whether that's really me agreeing or the chips Bill Gates had injected into me with the vax.

    , @AndrewR
    @Jack D

    I don't care. I'm still not getting your vaccine.

  12. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    For a 20-something y/o soccer player?

    • Thanks: jejej
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, for everyone. Not only can covid inflame the heart cells directly, but one of the things that makes covid dangerous is that even healthy individuals it will sometimes release a "cytokine storm" which can cause heart inflammation.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699571/#:~:text=Hyper%20inflammation%20post%2DCOVID%2D19,)%20%5B43%2C44%5D.

    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Change that Matters

  13. Good time to bring up the fact that the government poisoned booze during prohibition and killed thousands. Cuz why not.

  14. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch’s Substack. This will only get worse with each shot. Myocarditis is a death sentence. Takes about 8-10 years, but you get it, and you’re gonna die.

    The shots have failed miserably. A map of who has Corona in East vs. West Germany is almost comic. West is heavily vaxxed and highly infected. East is highly unvaxxed and now enjoying real immunity as the term has heretofore been understood.

    Give up Jack.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anon


    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll
     
    LOL.

    Myocarditis is a death sentence.
     
    It is not, you anon troll. The vast majority of people who have myocarditis recover with treatment. And on this Jack D (with whom I often argue) is correct - the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Peterike

    , @Recently Based
    @Anon

    "3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch’s Substack."

    Over 100 million Americans have received at least one booster shot. If correct, that would imply 3.7 million people in the US would have developed myocarditis within roughly one year. That is more than the total number of myocarditis patients presenting each year on planet earth. But I'm sure the self-reported poll on this dude's substack is extremely reliable.

    And BTW, myocarditis is not something you want, but it is extremely far from a death sentence.

  15. Time for me to dust off the ol’ “Nancy was right” t-shirt?

    Most of my betters, everyone under 40, probably wouldn’t get it.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @ATate

    Just say nay.

  16. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    False.

    Your claim of false is unproven. Perhaps even false. You actually expect us to believe politifact sponsored “fact-checking” laundered through WaPo? What a crock.

    They cherry-pick a few instances of “far-right websites” being loose with the facts and conclude that any claims of elevated death-rates for young athletes is false. That’s horses**t. There do seem to have been a lot of news reports of soccer players dying over the last two years. Those were from mainstream media sources, not scary “far-right websites”. Just this year, two high-school basketball players, one in Illinois and one in Texas, dropped dead on the court on the same day.

    Is all this statistically significant? I don’t know. And certainly WaPo is never going to bother investigating if it is or not.

    Then of course they trot out the VAERS numbers and instantly pooh-pooh them. VAERS is self-reported. VAERS is unrealiable. The implication is that those evil anti-vaxxers file false reports just to queer the statistics. Then why the Hell does the CDC and FDA still maintain it? Here is the reporting site:

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

    which contains this warning:

    “Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.”

    Do they think there are a lot of people who will risk being hounded by the Feds just to make a point? By the way, how many people has the DoJ prosecuted for filing a false VAERS report?

    Your propaganda is weak. I suggest you find better.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: Corvinus
    • Replies: @jejej
    @Mr. Anon


    Just this year, two high-school basketball players, one in Illinois and one in Texas, dropped dead on the court on the same day.
     
    At least this is something people talk about. How about all those people who dropped dead from running while masked?

    My God, maskers are so stupid...

    My counsin, a new york jewess, masked songard she ended up in the hospital with a face infection.

    I think the mask deaths and injuries aren't talked about because the people who received them (cuz included) rightfully feel shame for having been so gullible and fanatical about something that is so evidently a bad idea that you feel it with every breath you take.

    Vaccing though was FORCED upon the masses.

    Masking? Never did it. Even in "follow the rules" fascist Portugal and crazy bitch run New York.

    But I would have given in on vaxing if they had made it just a bit more onerous.

    Still, it's never too late to laugh at dead maskers. Other than kids and employees who were forced to mask and suffered for it. They deserve vengeance and I'm pretty sure in 10 years or so they'll be gettin it.
  17. @Dumbo
    Maybe stay away from "recreational drugs" as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal -- no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with "recreational drugs"? It could be interesting to find out.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Cloudbuster, @megabar, @Pontius, @Dave from Oz

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    The WEF-set is pushing the legalization of drugs because they want to sedate the hordes of useless-eaters they foresee after automation has destroyed millions of jobs. They want them to live as incels in a box in some urban ant-farm and eat bugs while anesthetizing themselves with drugs, entertainment, and VR.

    It’s the soft-kill approach. If that doesn’t work there is always the tried-and-true hard-kill approach. War.

  18. We can increase the penalties,but what happens if you-know-who gets caught up in it?
    Then,we gotta release them early! 😮

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Bardon Kaldlan

    Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle.

  19. @JimB

    In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.
     
    Or shoot up in a public library. The librarians keep Narcan. But if you’re an addict, don’t mess with the veins in your thigh. That’s where the librarians are trained to inject you. They aren’t medical technicians who know how to poke around for an uncollapsed vein.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Cloudbuster, @Jay Fink, @Dumbo

    Librarians tugging down my pants and grabbing my thigh is one of my favorite fantasies.😉

    • Agree: al gore rhythms
    • LOL: Cortes
  20. Congratulations to George Floyd!

    Two years drug free!

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Robert Dolan

    Robert, George Floyd gets all the credit for the line, but, believe it or not, 46 years ago, Private Detective Jim Rockford did that whole "I can't breath" act after Val Bisoglio knocked him down with a couple of pistol blows to the back.

    Vic Bisoglio: "OK, bud, start yackin'. I'm in no mood!"

    Jim Rockford: "I can't breath. I'm asthmatic."

    Val Bisoglio: "Yeah, and I'm a Rockette!"

    Val let off his guard to where Jim eventually got the upper hand, after a fist fight, to the point where Val had to drink a bottle of Maalox. They ended up working together, but I don't think Jim got paid yet again ...

    George Floyd deserved to die for copyright infringement alone!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Truth
    @Robert Dolan

    ...And a special congrats to Daniel Shaver; four years bill-free.

  21. Pixo says:
    @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Pixo


    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth
     
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the one who just said Putin is a Secret Jew because he donned a beanie cap when visiting the Wailing Wall?

    Well heck. What did you say??


    https://www.unz.com/article/aleksandr-dugin-on-the-alien-substantially-jewish-elite-in-the-u-s-and-its-war-against-traditional-american-individualism/#comment-5418600

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Pixo


    And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.
     
    Selfless, public-spirited intellectuals are often neither selfless, public-spirited, nor even intellectuals.

    Anthony Fauci springs to mind as an example.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.
     
    Agree, except it hasn't been a century. The lying is basically a post-War, Jewish commie led effort which was pushed on to victory with endless media repetition.

    The pre-War scientific (Anglo) elites, while limited in their knowledge and wrong about this and that and the other thing--and burdened with some ethnocentrism--were basically stumbling the right track. Humans had common ancestors and were all related but had evolved a bit differently--had different characteristics--in different places.

    Replies: @Pixo

    , @Mike Tre
    @Pixo

    "And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population. "

    What the fuck is this horseshit? That line is lick something Orwell edited out of 1984 because even he thought it was too over the top. Are you insane? Who exactly did you have in mind when you penned this whopper? Fauci? Levine? LOL

    I hope you're not an undercover FBI agent because if you are, they need to stop hiring the handicapped.

    , @jejej
    @Pixo

    That comment is not a credit to your race.

    Your fascination with negroes is irrelevant. The Faucists didn't mention any of these "serious side effects" you mention. They said, take it. It's totally safe. Anyone who even considers doubting Our Word is a loon. And if you get vaxed you will not get covid.

    I don't need to learn their opinions on trans chinese penises to expllain why no one trusts them.

    Not even you, Jack, Steve, AnotherDad, Corvenus or any of the womenfolk.

  22. I’ve noticed a lot of young women dying too, that congressman’s daughter, the daughter of luminary law professor who was a high school classmate of my daughter, two daughters of guys at my Virginia golf club, one a musician, the other a high achieving jock girl, daughter of an Indian tech star.

    Lot of us used a little casual drugs back in the day, not cool anymore.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @nglaer

    They're not dying from the vaccine, which is perfectly safe, they're dying from the disease which the vaccine was supposed to protect them from.

  23. “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan, tyrone
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    @Corvinus

    Uh....I guess you missed the actual bodycam footage as well as the autopsy report.

    The bodycam showed the cop's knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck, and it was VERY clear.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the windpipe or neck, and also indicated that Saint George had over three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    And this factual information makes you a liar.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes.
     
    It isn't a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @tyrone

    , @Patrick in SC
    @Corvinus


    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.
     
    Obviously, "Mr. Sailer" left that out because he really, really hates black people. That's why. Just like Officer Chauvin hated black people, as we now know from his dastardly kneeling on a guy as well as the dozens of black carcasses he left in his wake during his 19 year reign of terror with the Minneapolis police. Or something.

    See, putting your knee on someone's upper back doesn't kill them unless that person is already expiring from doing drugs, as was the case in George Floyd's demise. Hence, that "detail" is irrelevant considering the blog post is about overdosing on drugs.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Corvinus

    Steven Crowder survived the lethal restraint, most likely because he wasn't filled with lethal drugs.

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Corvinus

    There's no "good" way to deal with a person undergoing a psychotic episode. Especially if it's drug induced.

    , @JR Ewing
    @Corvinus

    Only a lethal restraint if you load up on lethal drugs beforehand, too.

    , @Dchjk
    @Corvinus

    george floyd had a bad heart, figuratively. His actual heart was very strong from pumping blood through his 90% occluded arteries — good exercise,

    , @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    ...Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail...'

    Sometimes I'm tempted to argue with you, but then I realize there's no point.

    Interestingly, I go through exactly the same process with Evangelicals. With true believers, there's no point. Whatever is logically demonstrated to them, they'll just pick up the pieces and fight on.

    Won't you?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  24. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you the one who just said Putin is a Secret Jew because he donned a beanie cap when visiting the Wailing Wall?

    Well heck. What did you say??

    https://www.unz.com/article/aleksandr-dugin-on-the-alien-substantially-jewish-elite-in-the-u-s-and-its-war-against-traditional-american-individualism/#comment-5418600

  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D


    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.
     
    For a 20-something y/o soccer player?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, for everyone. Not only can covid inflame the heart cells directly, but one of the things that makes covid dangerous is that even healthy individuals it will sometimes release a “cytokine storm” which can cause heart inflammation.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699571/#:~:text=Hyper%20inflammation%20post%2DCOVID%2D19,)%20%5B43%2C44%5D.

    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.

    • Troll: jejej
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.
     
    This is pure supposition on your part. Do you maintain that absolutely nobody has died from the vaccine?
    , @Change that Matters
    @Jack D

    You people are weak.

  26. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

  27. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:

    Irresponsible people in the media have pushed drugs hard for at least 10 years. People like Joe Rogan and Bill Maher glamorized them. There was very little pushback or recognition of the danger.

    And you had this whole culture of people advocating the “living stoned” lifestyle. The wake and bake crew.

    Can anyone explain the zeal for being high on marijuana? I didn’t find it all that compelling.

    • Replies: @jejej
    @Anonymous

    Both Rogans and Maher seem to be doing okay despite their known affection for the leaf.

    Besides, they didn't "push drugs hard", as you say.

    They pushed for the state to not arrest and imprison people for enjoying drugs as they see fit.

    "But what about the cheeeeeldrin!!!!"

    It amazes me how all of us (I am not immune) want the state to stay out of the citizenry's business - except for, you know, our preferred exceptions, whatever they happen to be.

    In general, the fewer things the state can lock you up for - the better.

    Replies: @Feryl

  28. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    >ignore what you’re seeing
    Hmmm …
    >argument depends on admitting that vaccine doesn’t work
    Yikes.
    >source is Bezos Blog
    OW!

  29. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    Uh….I guess you missed the actual bodycam footage as well as the autopsy report.

    The bodycam showed the cop’s knee was on Floyd’s shoulder, not his neck, and it was VERY clear.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the windpipe or neck, and also indicated that Saint George had over three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    And this factual information makes you a liar.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Thanks: Kylie, JimDandy
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Robert Dolan

    I never made the claims you stated. What is factual is that Officer Chauvin used a lethal restraint maneuver for 9 minutes that unquestionably was a factor in Floyd’s death.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

  30. @nglaer
    I've noticed a lot of young women dying too, that congressman's daughter, the daughter of luminary law professor who was a high school classmate of my daughter, two daughters of guys at my Virginia golf club, one a musician, the other a high achieving jock girl, daughter of an Indian tech star.

    Lot of us used a little casual drugs back in the day, not cool anymore.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    They’re not dying from the vaccine, which is perfectly safe, they’re dying from the disease which the vaccine was supposed to protect them from.

  31. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    Nice try, Shlomo. You cunts just can’t lie straight. The small hats must be too tight, cutting off circulation to important bits of your brain.

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    What’s your source for this? Some GPT3-vulnerable scribbler at Bezos’ Blog, or the talking points distributed in the daily Zoom call for the 101st Hasbara Chairborne?

    The reason I ask is that the “peer reviewed literature” is strikingly at odds:

    Example 1: Odds Ratio of between 8 and 30 (as as high as 44) – see Age and sex-specific risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 messenger RNA vaccinesNature Communications 13, 3633 (2022)

    The money quote:

    We perform matched case-control studies and find increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis during the first week following vaccination, and particularly after the second dose, with adjusted odds ratios of myocarditis of 8.1 (95% confidence interval [CI], 6.7 to 9.9) for the BNT162b2 and 30 (95% CI, 21 to 43) for the mRNA-1273 vaccine. The largest associations are observed for myocarditis following mRNA-1273 vaccination in persons aged 18 to 24 years. Estimates of excess cases attributable to vaccination also reveal a substantial burden of both myocarditis and pericarditis across other age groups and in both males and females.

    Likewise: this ‘Comment’ article in Lancet (Busby (2022) “COVID-19 mRNA vaccination and myocarditis or pericarditis”) gives links to 8 or 9 peer-reviewed publications that make abundantly clear that the risks are substantially higher than the base-case.

    Money quote II:

    Similar to previous studies, Wong and colleagues observed higher than expected rates of myocarditis (and pericarditis, a closely related clinical presentation), specifically in individuals younger than 35 years, with the highest risk among men aged 18–25 years after their second COVID-19 mRNA vaccine dose. The absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, calculated as the incidence rate within 1–7 days of vaccination, for men aged 18–25 years after a second vaccination dose was 2·17 (95% CI 1·55–3·04) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Moderna vaccine, mRNA-1273, and 1·71 (1·31–2·23) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, BNT162b2.

    You go ahead and keep telling people there’s nothing to see: humanity is far better off with fewer of the sorts of people that could be influenced by you and the rest of your cock-mutilation cult.

    • Agree: Listener
    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kratoklastes


    The absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, calculated as the incidence rate within 1–7 days of vaccination, for men aged 18–25 years after a second vaccination dose was 2·17 (95% CI 1·55–3·04) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Moderna vaccine, mRNA-1273,
     
    Now tell me the absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis for the same group of men who are infected with Covid and we can compare. Until then you are comparing apples to nothing.

    I didn't say that the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is zero, just that it's much smaller than the risk from Covid itself. 2 per 100,000 sounds like a pretty low risk to me. Out of those who got myocarditis from the vaccine, how many died?
  32. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes.

    It isn’t a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Mr. Anon


    It isn’t a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.
     
    Yes - the restraint was taught, and the Prosecution got a high ranking MPD officer to testify that it wasn't an approved hold for that long, which according to the prosecutor's theory of the case constituted a battery. The battery was a felony according to the prosecution theory, invoking the felony murder rule. As for causation, the prosecutor's preferred jury instructions and the ones that went to the jury were that the hold only had to have had some contributing effect leading to Floyd's death (together with, inter alia, a lethal dose of fentanyl and methampetamines in his system, together with an existing congenital heart condition). Floyd was a grenade bound to blow up that day.

    Minneapolis settled the civil lawsuit to great fanfare on the eve of trial to further influence a jury already exposed to riots and threats of riots as well as "journalists" stalking them so that they knew that their homes were in the ether should the verdict not come out according to the preferences of the mob.

    It was all legal voodoo and smoke and mirrors, laced throughout with the mob's fat greasy thumb on the scale.
    , @tyrone
    @Mr. Anon

    Absolutely correct......also, Akron P.D. , Jayland Walker, GOOD SHOOT.

  33. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, for everyone. Not only can covid inflame the heart cells directly, but one of the things that makes covid dangerous is that even healthy individuals it will sometimes release a "cytokine storm" which can cause heart inflammation.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699571/#:~:text=Hyper%20inflammation%20post%2DCOVID%2D19,)%20%5B43%2C44%5D.

    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Change that Matters

    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.

    This is pure supposition on your part. Do you maintain that absolutely nobody has died from the vaccine?

  34. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Selfless, public-spirited intellectuals are often neither selfless, public-spirited, nor even intellectuals.

    Anthony Fauci springs to mind as an example.

  35. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    There were lots of reports of myocarditis and other health issues after mandatory military Covid vaccinations that were recorded in the DoD database used to track the health of military members. DoD spokesmen then said this was just due to a major “computer glitch” that went undetected for five years. I’ve worked with DoD computer systems for over 25 years and have never seen or heard of a major computer glitch going undetected for five years, so I find this implausible.

    There is a government cover up going on and the mainstream media is complicit in this. The general public, though, is becoming aware of the ineffectiveness and possible dangers of the vaccines and many governments now have a problem with lots of unused doses of the vaccines that no one wants. As a DoD employee, I was required to get vaccinated but there is no talk about requiring booster shots. They won’t admit they made a mistake forcing us to get vaccinated but at least they are letting us make our own decision now on whether to get the booster shots.

    • Thanks: jejej
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Mark G.


    As a DoD employee, I was required to get vaccinated but there is no talk about requiring booster shots.
     
    The point of the DoD mandate was to cripple the US military so the Chicoms can waltz into Taiwan, possibly Japan, unopposed.
  36. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Obviously, “Mr. Sailer” left that out because he really, really hates black people. That’s why. Just like Officer Chauvin hated black people, as we now know from his dastardly kneeling on a guy as well as the dozens of black carcasses he left in his wake during his 19 year reign of terror with the Minneapolis police. Or something.

    See, putting your knee on someone’s upper back doesn’t kill them unless that person is already expiring from doing drugs, as was the case in George Floyd’s demise. Hence, that “detail” is irrelevant considering the blog post is about overdosing on drugs.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Patrick in SC

    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  37. @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes.
     
    It isn't a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @tyrone

    It isn’t a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.

    Yes – the restraint was taught, and the Prosecution got a high ranking MPD officer to testify that it wasn’t an approved hold for that long, which according to the prosecutor’s theory of the case constituted a battery. The battery was a felony according to the prosecution theory, invoking the felony murder rule. As for causation, the prosecutor’s preferred jury instructions and the ones that went to the jury were that the hold only had to have had some contributing effect leading to Floyd’s death (together with, inter alia, a lethal dose of fentanyl and methampetamines in his system, together with an existing congenital heart condition). Floyd was a grenade bound to blow up that day.

    Minneapolis settled the civil lawsuit to great fanfare on the eve of trial to further influence a jury already exposed to riots and threats of riots as well as “journalists” stalking them so that they knew that their homes were in the ether should the verdict not come out according to the preferences of the mob.

    It was all legal voodoo and smoke and mirrors, laced throughout with the mob’s fat greasy thumb on the scale.

  38. @ATate
    Time for me to dust off the ol’ “Nancy was right” t-shirt?

    Most of my betters, everyone under 40, probably wouldn’t get it.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Just say nay.

  39. AI is going to put Steve’s blogging career out of business by taking away his content…

    https://phys.org/news/2022-06-algorithm-crime-week-advance-reveals.html

  40. Pixo says:
    @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Pixo


    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.
     
    Why? Because you are afraid they might be partially right?

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.
     
    And the CDC - deeply in-hock to pharmaceutical companies - would never cook their data, would they? Like simply ignoring vaccine-related deaths and attributing them to something else. Nor would the British government. Unimaginable.

    Replies: @Pixo

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Pixo


    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.
     
    So I guess the vax is just generally good for whatever ails 'ya? Does the vax also cure baldness and sciatica and put a spring in your step?

    More likely our genius sciency-ists have simply re-discovered the concept of confounding variables. One of which is that a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed. It only takes a few of those people to skew all the numbers.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @Pixo

    I've given up arguing with the truthers and the Putinists but I was surprised that Steve, who is usually so careful, fell for the false rumors. It really shows you how powerful lies are.

    , @Anonymous
    @Pixo


    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm
     
    Thanks, interesting link. Better download link (PDF): https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

    Sometimes, when all else fails, one must actually READ research reports, rather than relying on third-hand characterizations by "influencers" with humanities degrees.

    One might find interesting nuggets such as this.

    Runxin Huang reports support for attending meetings or travel from Dynavax Technologies. Nicola P. Klein reports institutional support from Pfizer, Sanofi Pasteur, Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, and Protein Science (now Sanofi Pasteur to support vaccine studies). Elizabeth G. Liles reports research contracts from the National Human Genome Research Institute and Pfizer. Kerresa Morrissette reports research contracts from the National Institutes of Health, GlaxoSmithKline, and Merck Sharp & Dohme Corporation, outside the submitted work. [Emphasis added]
     
    , @Anonymous
    @Pixo

    As noted above, a better download link (PDF) is: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

    It seems this "report" relies on the tried-and-tested expedient of fudging the DATE of vaccination to adjust the classification of vaccinated and non-vaccinated subjects, as suggested by this footnote:


    ... In each VSD site [i.e. participating institution], age group, and sex stratum, the distribution of vaccination dates of dose 1 were obtained and used to assign index dates to all persons. [Emphasis added.]
     
    Earlier publications by CDC and others often treated a person as "unvaccinated" for two weeks after an initial vaccination, and thus attributed any adverse symptoms including death to a COVID infection, rather than to the vaccination. It could be that this is what happened here, as suggested by the phrase "distribution of vaccination dates." Why not categorize each subject's data based on that subject's actual "vaccination date"?

    In fact, the report authors helpfully confirm that:


    This work was reviewed by CDC and VSD sites§§ and was conducted consistent with applicable federal law and CDC policy.

     

    Which precise CDC "policies" were followed? Are all pertinent policies publicly documented?
  41. @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes.
     
    It isn't a lethal restraint, you ninny. Moreover it is was taught to MPD officers as part of their training.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @tyrone

    Absolutely correct……also, Akron P.D. , Jayland Walker, GOOD SHOOT.

  42. @Robert Dolan
    Congratulations to George Floyd!

    Two years drug free!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Truth

    Robert, George Floyd gets all the credit for the line, but, believe it or not, 46 years ago, Private Detective Jim Rockford did that whole “I can’t breath” act after Val Bisoglio knocked him down with a couple of pistol blows to the back.

    Vic Bisoglio: “OK, bud, start yackin’. I’m in no mood!”

    Jim Rockford: “I can’t breath. I’m asthmatic.”

    Val Bisoglio: “Yeah, and I’m a Rockette!”

    Val let off his guard to where Jim eventually got the upper hand, after a fist fight, to the point where Val had to drink a bottle of Maalox. They ended up working together, but I don’t think Jim got paid yet again …

    George Floyd deserved to die for copyright infringement alone!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Very late correction: The actor was Simon Oakland. Val was another guy playing one of Rockford's PI "buddies" on that episode. My apologies.

  43. Speaking of drugs, these come in bottles of 60??

    Who needs that many abortions in the course of a year? That’s over one per week! Sure seems to be a whole lot of “rape or incest” going around. Or just millions of women who are unable to think ahead, or figure out how to use birth control.

    But that’s it, isn’t it. This is birth control now.

    PS. If you look like the figure on the box, maybe you should procreate after all.

    PPS. You don’t look like the figure on the box.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • LOL: HammerJack, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Hangnail Hans

    It is also an anti-ulcer medication that inhibits stomach acid. You take 4 pills a day, so a bottle of 60 isn’t much.

    For abortion purposes, 12 pills are dissolved in the cheeks or whoha.

    Replies: @Kim, @epebble

  44. @Matthew Kelly
    This seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @ic1000, @epebble, @Muggles

    I totally agree with you Matthew. This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-jaylon-ferguson-fiancee-ravens-death-20220701-iuuiepjhyndtzflu53zck7k3ka-story.html

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @PaceLaw


    This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand.
     
    It's supposition to say that he was dissatisfied with life. Maybe he was young and rich and felt invincible; and just liked a little extra excitement. They're called recreational drugs for a reason.

    Just when the OD is an approved minority, the MSM instruct us to believe he was self medicating because of white supremacy.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @PaceLaw

    They all have "fiancées".

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    , @Brutusale
    @PaceLaw

    Back in the 80s when a talented NBA player named Michael Ray Richardson was suspended from the league for life after his third failed drug test, Boston Celtics great Kevin McHale said, "Hey, how long is the average NBA career? 3-4 years? Why take the chance? You've got the whole rest of your life to do drugs?'.

  45. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

    focusing instead on Mexico

    We can’t do much to solve our problems within this country but expect to solve our problems by focusing on foreign countries? Sounds like escapism.

  46. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    Why? Because you are afraid they might be partially right?

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    And the CDC – deeply in-hock to pharmaceutical companies – would never cook their data, would they? Like simply ignoring vaccine-related deaths and attributing them to something else. Nor would the British government. Unimaginable.

    • Agree: JR Ewing
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Mr. Anon

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

  47. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, for everyone. Not only can covid inflame the heart cells directly, but one of the things that makes covid dangerous is that even healthy individuals it will sometimes release a "cytokine storm" which can cause heart inflammation.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699571/#:~:text=Hyper%20inflammation%20post%2DCOVID%2D19,)%20%5B43%2C44%5D.

    Whatever reaction the vaccine causes is a highly attenuated version of what the virus itself causes. Attenuated enough not to kill you.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Change that Matters

    You people are weak.

  48. I saw a young woman nodding out in the back seat of a car next to me today. She was on the edge — nothing I could do.

    What is to be done about this? It will take a firm hand to fix it. More and more I think we have to be hard men to pull our children back from the brink.

    I would be ruthless if that’s what it took to keep my kids off fentanyl. No exaggeration. I would support executing dealers by gunshot. Legally, of course, and with ample warning, but also without a twinge of regret.

    If that’s what it takes so be it. Poisoning people should have consequences. If that’s too hard for some to stomach, let them sacrifice their own children — not mine.

    • Replies: @Kim
    @Bill P

    The war on drugs failed. Why? Bcs only one side took fatalities.

    If we were executing 60,000 drug dealers a year, well, we wouldn't have to do it many years running.

    , @HammerJack
    @Bill P

    Aren't most of these people taking drugs willingly? How are the dealers responsible for users' choices?

    Obviously I'm playing devil's advocate here but I think people should be responsible for their own behavior.

    That some drugs are increasingly cut with lethal quantities of fentanyl is a separate matter, which legalization would address via regulation.

    I'm not a drug user BTW.

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @Hitmarck
    @Bill P

    American morals and justice seem to work different.
    Like, look at slavery. Ending it and having bought a few makes one the bad guy. Having fought to keep it, like the Turks, gives you progressive rights and hunting blacks in Africa even better ones.

    So the best u can realistic hope for is them letting you pull the trigger on your daughter.

  49. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    Steven Crowder survived the lethal restraint, most likely because he wasn’t filled with lethal drugs.

  50. @Bardon Kaldlan
    We can increase the penalties,but what happens if you-know-who gets caught up in it?
    Then,we gotta release them early! 😮

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Pat, I’d like to solve the puzzle.

  51. By McKenna Oxenden

    My first reaction was, “What the hell kind of name is “Jaylon”. Then I saw this.

  52. Pixo says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Pixo


    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.
     
    Why? Because you are afraid they might be partially right?

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.
     
    And the CDC - deeply in-hock to pharmaceutical companies - would never cook their data, would they? Like simply ignoring vaccine-related deaths and attributing them to something else. Nor would the British government. Unimaginable.

    Replies: @Pixo

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Pixo

    Are the vaccinated less likely to spread it than asymptomatic unvaccinated people who have tested negative/have antibodies?

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Pixo


    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.
     
    I do know what the CDC does. They do whatever they are told to do by the people who pay them.

    You trust the CDC? Knock yourself out. More the fool you.

    So - tell us - what does the study say? How do they decide whether or not a person has died from vaccine complications or rather that they were just..............unlucky.

    I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.
     
    And when they none-the-less die, perhaps from the coof, remember: YOU killed them. It's all on you. YOU are a murderer.

    YOU are a murderer. Stay safe. Stay socially distant. Stay docile.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Pixo


    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.
     
    I do know what the CDC does. They do whatever they are told to do by the people who pay them.

    You trust the CDC? Knock yourself out. More the fool you.

    So - tell us - what does this study you mentioned say? How do they decide whether or not a person has died from vaccine complications, or rather, were they were just..............unlucky.

    Yeah, and Pfizer just hates Kaiser Permanente, so much so that they agreed to let Kaiser participate in their vaccine trials:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04848584


    I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.
     
    And when they none-the-less die, perhaps from the coof, remember: YOU killed them. It's all on you. YOU are a murderer.

    Stay safe. Stay socially distant. Stay docile.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Pixo

    "The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the the pocket of Pfizer ..."

    Loads of research by reputable sources accumulated in the past two years has clearly illustrated that public health authorities, state and federal, have been thoroughly politicized. Albert Bourla's public pronouncements are essentially policy diktats to health bureaucrats.

    "go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine quackery you want"

    I can believe in the viability of mainstream health treatments and still recognize that Western health systems have been corrupted and weaponized by oligarchs who seek to save Mother Earth from the human scourge. Creepoid Bill Gates once joked that if you want to kill off half of humanity a mass vaccination program was the way to do it.

    Replies: @Pixo

  53. @Hangnail Hans
    Speaking of drugs, these come in bottles of 60??

    https://i.ibb.co/ykdNVXF/im-576432.png

    Who needs that many abortions in the course of a year? That's over one per week! Sure seems to be a whole lot of "rape or incest" going around. Or just millions of women who are unable to think ahead, or figure out how to use birth control.

    But that's it, isn't it. This is birth control now.


    PS. If you look like the figure on the box, maybe you should procreate after all.

    PPS. You don't look like the figure on the box.

    Replies: @Pixo

    It is also an anti-ulcer medication that inhibits stomach acid. You take 4 pills a day, so a bottle of 60 isn’t much.

    For abortion purposes, 12 pills are dissolved in the cheeks or whoha.

    • Replies: @Kim
    @Pixo

    People in the USA are prescribed $5bn a year in antacids when in the vast number of cases the problem may be not too much stomach acid but too little.

    Adequate levels of stomach acid can be restored by simply taking Betaine HCl for a few weeks. Betaine HCl is available over the counter but can also be bought very cheaply online (put it into capsules yourself) as it is commonly used as an appetite stimulant for all kinds of farm animals. It is completely safe for human use.

    Millions can thank me later.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @epebble
    @Pixo

    So, in the abortion restricted states, these ulcer medications will become Controlled Substances and ulcer patients will have to jump through hoops to get their drug? If we go by the example of Opioids, that will lead to a black market/underground market in ulcer drugs and who knows what the consequences will be. If, on the other hand, they allow status quo, anybody who wants an abortion can get an ulcer prescription or 'borrow' a friend or relative's ulcer medication. The state has to now do a strict audit of all ulcer prescriptions else they have a big hole in the anti-abortion policy. May we live in interesting times!

  54. @Pixo
    @Mr. Anon

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    Are the vaccinated less likely to spread it than asymptomatic unvaccinated people who have tested negative/have antibodies?

  55. This country went crazy when a few letters with anthrax showed up in the mail 20 years ago. A little powder in a first class letter and they’d evacuate a building. The who, how and why of that never really got resolved it just stopped happening and faded from the news.

    Now this fentanyl stuff seems more deadly than anthrax laced letters and while your basic drug dealer isn’t the type to just want to give it away free some people might want to cause mass casualty events. Shooting school children is hard to do and not get caught but I understand fentanyl can just be absorbed through the skin. You don’t have to deliberately ingest it to get a lethal dose. Recently we were all required to wear face masks even though a virus could pass right through them as if it wasn’t there. Could fentanyl be aerosolized to evade Fauci’s facemasks?

    Maybe fentanyl is less a drug problem than a national security one.

  56. Anon[622] • Disclaimer says:

    The dealers are just giving people what they want. I was reading that users want dealers who kill their clients, because that means the drugs being sold are very potent. If you’re an addict, you’re always looking for that greater potency because you get used to what you’re taking, and you care about that next high more than you worry about whether it will kill you.

  57. @Pixo
    “ In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.”

    Or get them quasi-legally from Big Pharma from doctors you find on social media ads.

    My instagram ads are about 20% shady doctors announcing they will be happy prescribe you on a Zoom video visit amphetamines, opioids, and ketamine. Also boner pills and HGH.

    The constant stream of ketamine ads was the biggest shock. Yes, k-hole is kinda legal now. When I was in college, it was a rave drug considered more hardcore than ecstasy, which remains illegal. From what I remember, it practice in puts people in a stupor similar to being very drunk.

    I have never seen an Instagram ad for benzodiazepines, e.g. valium and xanax. It may be because it is primarily women who take them and Zuckbook is aware I am a man.

    The other 80% of my Instagram ads are for food delivery services, possibly because I am a softie who says yes when a small restaurant owner asks me to “give us a follow.”

    Replies: @Genetic Engineer, @Indifferent Contrarian

    Ketamine therapy has been described as the first breakthrough in resistant depression treatment in 30+ years. The antidepressant effect appears to be strongest following time spent in the dissociative “stupor” induced by moderate doses, which for unclear reasons stimulates neural growth and improves error detection and overall cognitive functioning when administered at appropriate intervals (it’s now being investigated for Alzheimer’s as well). FDA-approved ketamine treatments like Spravato can only be administered in certified clinics, with patients remaining under physician supervision while acutely under the influence. Apart from the temporary disorientation it’s quite a safe compound that’s been used for decades at high doses for anesthesia and rapid sedation.

    • Thanks: Pixo
  58. @Anon
    @Jack D

    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch's Substack. This will only get worse with each shot. Myocarditis is a death sentence. Takes about 8-10 years, but you get it, and you're gonna die.

    The shots have failed miserably. A map of who has Corona in East vs. West Germany is almost comic. West is heavily vaxxed and highly infected. East is highly unvaxxed and now enjoying real immunity as the term has heretofore been understood.

    Give up Jack.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Recently Based

    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll

    LOL.

    Myocarditis is a death sentence.

    It is not, you anon troll. The vast majority of people who have myocarditis recover with treatment. And on this Jack D (with whom I often argue) is correct – the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Twinkie


    contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.
     
    How about boosters 1, 2, and 3? I ask seriously because I had two doses of the original (Pfizer) vaccine last year but wasn't permitted to receive a booster because my state was only serving "underserved communities" at the time.

    So, between my irritation at that and my growing ambivalence about the vaccine—as well as the greatly reduced threat of the omicron variant—I just said to hell with it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Peterike
    @Twinkie

    “ the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.”

    Baloney. But even if true, being vaxed increases your chances of getting Covid markedly. So you lose either way.

  59. @Pixo
    @Mr. Anon

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    I do know what the CDC does. They do whatever they are told to do by the people who pay them.

    You trust the CDC? Knock yourself out. More the fool you.

    So – tell us – what does the study say? How do they decide whether or not a person has died from vaccine complications or rather that they were just…………..unlucky.

    I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    And when they none-the-less die, perhaps from the coof, remember: YOU killed them. It’s all on you. YOU are a murderer.

    YOU are a murderer. Stay safe. Stay socially distant. Stay docile.

  60. @Pixo
    @Mr. Anon

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    I do know what the CDC does. They do whatever they are told to do by the people who pay them.

    You trust the CDC? Knock yourself out. More the fool you.

    So – tell us – what does this study you mentioned say? How do they decide whether or not a person has died from vaccine complications, or rather, were they were just…………..unlucky.

    Yeah, and Pfizer just hates Kaiser Permanente, so much so that they agreed to let Kaiser participate in their vaccine trials:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04848584

    I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    And when they none-the-less die, perhaps from the coof, remember: YOU killed them. It’s all on you. YOU are a murderer.

    Stay safe. Stay socially distant. Stay docile.

  61. @Bill P
    I saw a young woman nodding out in the back seat of a car next to me today. She was on the edge -- nothing I could do.

    What is to be done about this? It will take a firm hand to fix it. More and more I think we have to be hard men to pull our children back from the brink.

    I would be ruthless if that's what it took to keep my kids off fentanyl. No exaggeration. I would support executing dealers by gunshot. Legally, of course, and with ample warning, but also without a twinge of regret.

    If that's what it takes so be it. Poisoning people should have consequences. If that's too hard for some to stomach, let them sacrifice their own children -- not mine.

    Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @Hitmarck

    The war on drugs failed. Why? Bcs only one side took fatalities.

    If we were executing 60,000 drug dealers a year, well, we wouldn’t have to do it many years running.

  62. Good. Let all “athletes” die. Sportsball is a curse. “Athlethes” are anti-white trash as are all sportsball fans.

  63. Kim says:
    @Pixo
    @Hangnail Hans

    It is also an anti-ulcer medication that inhibits stomach acid. You take 4 pills a day, so a bottle of 60 isn’t much.

    For abortion purposes, 12 pills are dissolved in the cheeks or whoha.

    Replies: @Kim, @epebble

    People in the USA are prescribed \$5bn a year in antacids when in the vast number of cases the problem may be not too much stomach acid but too little.

    Adequate levels of stomach acid can be restored by simply taking Betaine HCl for a few weeks. Betaine HCl is available over the counter but can also be bought very cheaply online (put it into capsules yourself) as it is commonly used as an appetite stimulant for all kinds of farm animals. It is completely safe for human use.

    Millions can thank me later.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Kim

    This is correct. The body becomes too alkaline. Another easy remedy is a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar before meals.

  64. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    False.

    False.

    Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave

    While not establishing causal relationships, the findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side-effects and underscore the already established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z

    As someone once said, “a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.”

    • Thanks: jejej
    • Replies: @HA
    @for-the-record

    "Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave"

    This is all old news. According to an Oxford study (check out the lead statistician's tweets here), the only group for which myocarditis risk from vaccines seemed greater than that from COVID was the under-40 male bracket. For the rest, it wasn't generally 100 times greater (though it might have been for some cohorts) but hyperbole aside, what Jack D said about COVID-related myocarditis being significantly greater than vaccine-related myocarditis is correct.

    And even for the under-40 males, there's good reason to be not surprised why larger studies didn't back up the Oxford study. The Oxford statisticians themselves admitted, given myocarditis is so rare among young people (with or without the vaccine), that their results were a first pass, and really needed to be pooled with other such studies. And when that was done, the overall numbers didn't show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I'm guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children. (The Moderna jab was particularly problematic in the Oxford study when it came to young males, if I recall correctly.)

    Moreover, the young people that got in line first for the COVID shots tended to be young people with diabetes and asthma, which means that their results simply don't generalize to the rest of the population. (A similar effect is present in the case of flu -- it turns out kids who take a regular flu vaccine are 3x more likely to go to the hospital with flu than other kids, and for a while the anti-vaxxers were having a field day with that one. But a subsequent study verified the initial suspicion that those kids tended to be asthmatic and otherwise breathing-impaired, and even though they were indeed three times as likely to wind up in the hospital, they would have been in even worse shape without the flu vaccine.)

    Those interested in the studies can find the links in this thread.

    As for young athletes, again, there's no evidence that vaccines are more to blame than COVID itself, which was early on recognized as a major clot former, and even mild cases can measurably elevate your heart attack risk for months afterwards. In the case of soccer players, there was a freak outlier of myocarditis deaths in Dec 2021, but that came and went so it's hard to pin anything definitive on it. Any data-mining exercize with data as ragged as myocarditis deaths is likely to turn up some eye-popping stuff.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  65. @Twinkie
    @Anon


    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll
     
    LOL.

    Myocarditis is a death sentence.
     
    It is not, you anon troll. The vast majority of people who have myocarditis recover with treatment. And on this Jack D (with whom I often argue) is correct - the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Peterike

    contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.

    How about boosters 1, 2, and 3? I ask seriously because I had two doses of the original (Pfizer) vaccine last year but wasn’t permitted to receive a booster because my state was only serving “underserved communities” at the time.

    So, between my irritation at that and my growing ambivalence about the vaccine—as well as the greatly reduced threat of the omicron variant—I just said to hell with it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    I know that people (even people who got the 1st two shots) are for some reason sick or wary of getting the boosters but I've been getting annual flu shots for decades and I'm still not dead. If the 1st two shots didn't kill you, a 3rd and 4th and another one every year from now on isn't probably going to kill you either.

    One thing to understand is that the booster isn't (unfortunately) going to stop you from testing positive to Covid, except maybe for a few months. What it's going to do is greatly reduce the severity of your infection so that you might test positive without any symptoms or you will only have mild, cold-like symptoms that aren't going to kill you or put you in the hospital. And the good news is that if you do get infected, you probably are going to have additional immunity to Covid for at least a few months.

    This is not the same as being unvaxxed (or unboosted). If you are unvaxxed, you'll also gain immunity, but only if you survive the infection.

  66. @Bill P
    I saw a young woman nodding out in the back seat of a car next to me today. She was on the edge -- nothing I could do.

    What is to be done about this? It will take a firm hand to fix it. More and more I think we have to be hard men to pull our children back from the brink.

    I would be ruthless if that's what it took to keep my kids off fentanyl. No exaggeration. I would support executing dealers by gunshot. Legally, of course, and with ample warning, but also without a twinge of regret.

    If that's what it takes so be it. Poisoning people should have consequences. If that's too hard for some to stomach, let them sacrifice their own children -- not mine.

    Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @Hitmarck

    Aren’t most of these people taking drugs willingly? How are the dealers responsible for users’ choices?

    Obviously I’m playing devil’s advocate here but I think people should be responsible for their own behavior.

    That some drugs are increasingly cut with lethal quantities of fentanyl is a separate matter, which legalization would address via regulation.

    I’m not a drug user BTW.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @HammerJack

    The argument for legalization and regulation is worth consideration, but the extremely addictive nature of opioids is a major problem with that argument. I suppose if you're willing to accept some high proportion of the population being hooked it could work, but do we really want so many people on maintenance? Ever see what happens to people who miss their dose of Suboxone?

    Replies: @Muggles

  67. @PaceLaw
    @Matthew Kelly

    I totally agree with you Matthew. This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-jaylon-ferguson-fiancee-ravens-death-20220701-iuuiepjhyndtzflu53zck7k3ka-story.html

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Brutusale

    This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand.

    It’s supposition to say that he was dissatisfied with life. Maybe he was young and rich and felt invincible; and just liked a little extra excitement. They’re called recreational drugs for a reason.

    Just when the OD is an approved minority, the MSM instruct us to believe he was self medicating because of white supremacy.

  68. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    There’s no “good” way to deal with a person undergoing a psychotic episode. Especially if it’s drug induced.

  69. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.

    I got the impression that the practice was to add fentanyl to your stuff so your customer is now addicted to it and doesn’t realise why your stuff is the only kind that sates their needs. I don’t know if it makes the hit in and of itself better.

    However, the odds of killing your customers and new people being wary of you or their local dealers in general seems even in the short term, of being a really bad business decision. It may also simply be that sometimes the two powders are being mixed accidentally at a low enough rate by people far enough up the supply chain to not care.

    So far the only celebrities to be done in by tainted cocaine (A few have died directly from fentanyl like Prince but it is widely considered that he knowingly ingested it after developing an addiction and accidentally ODed) with only a few locally famous but unknown outside LA comedians being wiped out.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning

    It seems like if it was just to make hits better that a lot more celebs would be dead or had non-fatal ODs.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Altai

    Lulz Dept.


    For the record:

    A previous version of this story said the deceased reportedly overdosed on cocaine-laced fentanyl. The drug was fentanyl-laced cocaine.
     
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Altai

    Celebrities have enough money to either have their products assayed or taken by a court "taster".

    Replies: @OFWHAP

  70. I find it hard to believe that drug dealers are giving away anything, or that they have any need to make narcotics “more addictive.” I know from shows like “Drugs, Inc.” that there are somewhat “professional” drug dealers who care competitively about giving good product (purity) for regular addict customers; but generally drug dealers treat their drug-seekers as a bother to whom they are doing a big favor. Adulterated product is not generally desired; potheads definitely don’t want fentanyl etc in their weed.

    People are doing fentanyl on purpose.

  71. OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo’s law of comparative advantage (I’d forgotten who’d formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.

    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here’s a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here’s a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo’s theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I’d have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Well... She's 35 and she and her NASA educated husband have one child...

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    You must have missed out on middle school sex education. Not have you ever had a girl friend wife or children in your life.

    Women, or actually the fertile eggs women produce every month do not spontaneously become cycoblasts zygotes embryos babies human beings.

    The fertile eggs cannot create or conceive a baby on their own. This only happens when a male sperm penetrates the fertile egg. The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster by the prospective Mom or at a fertility clinic by a technician.

    So before your next woman hating screed familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction

    You’ve never heard of regression to the mean have you? It means that the children and grandchildren of unusually intelligent, tall, short, stupid, ugly beautiful blonde whatever parents often regress back to normal.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia arranged hundreds of marriages between 6’3 men and 5’9 women in an effort to create a cohort of very tall soldiers. Didn’t work. Some kids were a bit taller than the parents. Some kids were a bit shorter than the parents. Some were same height as the parents.

    Before pontificating about the fertility of women you don’t know and will ever meet; familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction. It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ralph L, @Truth

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @YetAnotherAnon


    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING.
     
    Yes, I know that I salivate every year at the prospect of the new models of Portuguese luxury automobiles.

    FWIW, the girl in your pictures hosts some kind of Saturday morning "Science is Cool" show for kids, rather than actually making rockets.
    , @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; who wrote an entire chapter discussing Portuguese wine and port vs English cloth. And completely ignoring the fact that most of the wine consumed in England at the time came from nearby France.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As with nearly all women:

    1. It's all about her

    2. She thinks she's hotter than she is,

    and

    3. Insists that you must agree.

    , @Colin Wright
    @YetAnotherAnon

    ...Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine..'

    Not so fast there, buddy. As Jack Benny said, I'm thinking.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @YetAnotherAnon


    comment was prompted by these pictures
     
    That broad has engineered jack shit over infinity squared.

    Everyone knows MIT has been a woke joke school for years.

  72. @Altai

    Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.
     
    I got the impression that the practice was to add fentanyl to your stuff so your customer is now addicted to it and doesn't realise why your stuff is the only kind that sates their needs. I don't know if it makes the hit in and of itself better.

    However, the odds of killing your customers and new people being wary of you or their local dealers in general seems even in the short term, of being a really bad business decision. It may also simply be that sometimes the two powders are being mixed accidentally at a low enough rate by people far enough up the supply chain to not care.

    So far the only celebrities to be done in by tainted cocaine (A few have died directly from fentanyl like Prince but it is widely considered that he knowingly ingested it after developing an addiction and accidentally ODed) with only a few locally famous but unknown outside LA comedians being wiped out.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning

    It seems like if it was just to make hits better that a lot more celebs would be dead or had non-fatal ODs.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Lulz Dept.

    For the record:

    A previous version of this story said the deceased reportedly overdosed on cocaine-laced fentanyl. The drug was fentanyl-laced cocaine.

  73. I find it hard to believe that drug dealers are giving away anything, or that they have any need to make narcotics “more addictive.”

    They do not need to do anything to create more addicts. Note that unlike cigarettes and alcohol there is no advertising illegal drugs, no glamour marketing, yet their numbers go up up up. Drug users create themselves by temperament and choices. Even a pothead can wonder why the huck anyone would start shooting himself with heroin, or even sniff that sh*t even once? or smoke crack? EVERYONE KNOWS what it means if you do it.

    I know from such documentary shows as “Drugs, Inc.” that there are somewhat “professional” drug dealers who care competitively about giving good product (purity) for regular addict customers; but generally drug dealers treat their drug-seekers as a bother to whom they are doing a big favor. Adulterated product is not generally desired; potheads definitely don’t want fentanyl etc in their weed.

    People are doing fentanyl on purpose.

  74. @Pixo
    “ In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.”

    Or get them quasi-legally from Big Pharma from doctors you find on social media ads.

    My instagram ads are about 20% shady doctors announcing they will be happy prescribe you on a Zoom video visit amphetamines, opioids, and ketamine. Also boner pills and HGH.

    The constant stream of ketamine ads was the biggest shock. Yes, k-hole is kinda legal now. When I was in college, it was a rave drug considered more hardcore than ecstasy, which remains illegal. From what I remember, it practice in puts people in a stupor similar to being very drunk.

    I have never seen an Instagram ad for benzodiazepines, e.g. valium and xanax. It may be because it is primarily women who take them and Zuckbook is aware I am a man.

    The other 80% of my Instagram ads are for food delivery services, possibly because I am a softie who says yes when a small restaurant owner asks me to “give us a follow.”

    Replies: @Genetic Engineer, @Indifferent Contrarian

    Ketamine is neither lethal nor particularly addictive (less than tobacco, much less than alcohol).
    High dosages on daily bases can ruin you bladder, though.
    Otherwise it’s less harmful than alcohol with added benefits for depression and chronic pain that alcohol doesn’t have.
    The dosages legally prescribed won’t put you in a k-hole, more like a very drunken state, but mentally more lucid and calm.

    • Thanks: Pixo
  75. @Bill P
    I saw a young woman nodding out in the back seat of a car next to me today. She was on the edge -- nothing I could do.

    What is to be done about this? It will take a firm hand to fix it. More and more I think we have to be hard men to pull our children back from the brink.

    I would be ruthless if that's what it took to keep my kids off fentanyl. No exaggeration. I would support executing dealers by gunshot. Legally, of course, and with ample warning, but also without a twinge of regret.

    If that's what it takes so be it. Poisoning people should have consequences. If that's too hard for some to stomach, let them sacrifice their own children -- not mine.

    Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @Hitmarck

    American morals and justice seem to work different.
    Like, look at slavery. Ending it and having bought a few makes one the bad guy. Having fought to keep it, like the Turks, gives you progressive rights and hunting blacks in Africa even better ones.

    So the best u can realistic hope for is them letting you pull the trigger on your daughter.

  76. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    Fentanyl is cheap to produce largely due to its potency for weight relative to all of the other recreational drugs. Cocaine dealing also gets you mixed up in the supply chain of some pretty ruthless dudes who can reach out and kill you from Columbia if you lose product.

    So I'm not so sure they're mixing fentanyl into cocaine and other things in order to make people think they got great cocaine so much as surreptitiously creating new fentanyl addicts by feeding fentanyl to people who wouldn't intentionally take a dose of fentanyl. Opiates are profitable, but the problem with fentanyl in particular is that you tend to kill off your own customer base, so you need to recruit new ones. Most people are now aware that if you screw around with prescription opiates the cost will drive you to cheaper alternatives on the street and quickly to fentanyl.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    If these people are accidentally OD’ing on fentanyl because they don’t know it’s in there, how are they going to decide they don’t actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @JR Ewing


    If these people are accidentally OD’ing on fentanyl because they don’t know it’s in there, how are they going to decide they don’t actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?
     
    The doses are imprecise. Some people, like the NFL player, got a "hot dose."

    As Steve wrote:

    Overdoses lately are often due to the recent practice of mixing fentanyl into traditional recreational drugs like cocaine, meth, and even marijuana. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.
     
    The object of lacing fentanyl into other drugs is to hook repeat customers. It won't take long for someone who thinks he has an exorbitantly expensive cocaine habit to realize in his dope sickness and while staring into an empty wallet that he really has an expensive but manageable fentanyl habit. Fentanyl is highly potent relative to its weight and is made from industrial chemicals produced legally in China and mixed in the narco state of Mexico. This cuts out the need to have a large grow operation, and makes smuggling fentanyl much easier than other drugs, cutting out expensive overhead costs. (Find a video of what it takes to grow and process coca leaves into powder cocaine, and that's before the smuggling operation which involves planes and submarines).

    Even though it's much cheaper on the street than cocaine, fentanyl is much more profitable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JR Ewing

  77. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    Only a lethal restraint if you load up on lethal drugs beforehand, too.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
  78. Hey, Steve.

    Speaking of football…. Any thoughts on your UCLA Bruins joining the Big 10?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Wonder when we call ourselves the Big 14.

    , @Brutusale
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-06-30-at-7.27.01-PM.png?resize=470%2C600&ssl=1

  79. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

    I haven’t commented enough recently to just hit the agree button, but assuming you mean focus on the border with Mexico, I could not agree more strongly.

  80. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hey, Steve.

    Speaking of football…. Any thoughts on your UCLA Bruins joining the Big 10?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Brutusale

    Wonder when we call ourselves the Big 14.

  81. @Anon
    @Jack D

    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch's Substack. This will only get worse with each shot. Myocarditis is a death sentence. Takes about 8-10 years, but you get it, and you're gonna die.

    The shots have failed miserably. A map of who has Corona in East vs. West Germany is almost comic. West is heavily vaxxed and highly infected. East is highly unvaxxed and now enjoying real immunity as the term has heretofore been understood.

    Give up Jack.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Recently Based

    “3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll conducted by a polling firm as cited on Steve Kirsch’s Substack.”

    Over 100 million Americans have received at least one booster shot. If correct, that would imply 3.7 million people in the US would have developed myocarditis within roughly one year. That is more than the total number of myocarditis patients presenting each year on planet earth. But I’m sure the self-reported poll on this dude’s substack is extremely reliable.

    And BTW, myocarditis is not something you want, but it is extremely far from a death sentence.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  82. @Dumbo
    Maybe stay away from "recreational drugs" as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal -- no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with "recreational drugs"? It could be interesting to find out.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Cloudbuster, @megabar, @Pontius, @Dave from Oz

    did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with “recreational drugs”?

    They’ve done as little research on the effects of the vaccines as humanly possible. So of course not.

  83. @PaceLaw
    @Matthew Kelly

    I totally agree with you Matthew. This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-jaylon-ferguson-fiancee-ravens-death-20220701-iuuiepjhyndtzflu53zck7k3ka-story.html

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Brutusale

    They all have “fiancées”.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged..."

  84. @Altai

    Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.
     
    I got the impression that the practice was to add fentanyl to your stuff so your customer is now addicted to it and doesn't realise why your stuff is the only kind that sates their needs. I don't know if it makes the hit in and of itself better.

    However, the odds of killing your customers and new people being wary of you or their local dealers in general seems even in the short term, of being a really bad business decision. It may also simply be that sometimes the two powders are being mixed accidentally at a low enough rate by people far enough up the supply chain to not care.

    So far the only celebrities to be done in by tainted cocaine (A few have died directly from fentanyl like Prince but it is widely considered that he knowingly ingested it after developing an addiction and accidentally ODed) with only a few locally famous but unknown outside LA comedians being wiped out.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning

    It seems like if it was just to make hits better that a lot more celebs would be dead or had non-fatal ODs.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Celebrities have enough money to either have their products assayed or taken by a court “taster”.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    A lethal dose of fentanyl is so small that having a "court taster" won't do you much good. The way to properly test your product for fentanyl is to dissolve everything you plan to take in water and then test the water. Don't trust your dealer just because he says that he tested the coke/molly/ketamine/whatever.

  85. @JimB

    In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.
     
    Or shoot up in a public library. The librarians keep Narcan. But if you’re an addict, don’t mess with the veins in your thigh. That’s where the librarians are trained to inject you. They aren’t medical technicians who know how to poke around for an uncollapsed vein.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Cloudbuster, @Jay Fink, @Dumbo

    Narcan is administered IM (Intramuscularly). There’s no searching around for a vein involved. Also, it’s now often administered as a nasal spray, not an injection.

    • Thanks: JimB
  86. I remember seeing an interview with a convicted heroin dealer who said he would intentionally put a fatal dose of fentanyl in one randomly selected packet because if word got out that someone had OD’ed on his product, it would actually increase his business.

    • Replies: @jejej
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Bullshit.

  87. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

    https://www.newsweek.com/war-terror-cost-us-21-trillion-its-conflicts-killed-nearly-one-million-reports-show-1625114

    The \$21 trillion the US spent on making the Middle East safe for Israel would never have happened.
    Think of all the Mexican border walls that could have been built: the modern infrastructure and other benefits. All for a fraction of that price.
    Best of all, America would be only semi-insolvent, instead of completely insolvent and waiting for its imminent economic collapse.

  88. “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.”

    I remember reading he ingested his stash of fentanyl so it wouldn’t be discovered by the cops. It seems if it was in his meth, he would have died much closer to the time in which he smoked it, and that there would have been other meth/fent OD’s that day by users who had bought their product from the same dealer.

    “In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.”

    A little further up stream – if you don’t want to get addicted to opioids in the first place, stay away from doctors.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    The corner found fentanyl in Floyd’s rectum mouth throat and esophagus. It was much much more than a personal stash. It was a dealer’s supply that he tried to hide in his rectum and stomach when he was arrested. Floyd killed himself by injecting his dealer’s supply of fentanyl.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Dchjk
    @Mike Tre

    I was prescribed fentanyl and hydrocodone for a kidney stone. They were a great comfort to me in a time of excruciating pain, but I didn’t get addicted, because I’m not a degenerate.

    I advise YOU to stay away from doctors; bite a bullet, if necessary.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  89. @Dumbo
    Maybe stay away from "recreational drugs" as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal -- no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with "recreational drugs"? It could be interesting to find out.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Cloudbuster, @megabar, @Pontius, @Dave from Oz

    > Maybe stay away from “recreational drugs” as a matter of principle?

    Their argument would be that if these drugs are legal, they’d be regulated and safe. And they would be.

    But the real argument against drugs isn’t that all drugs should be banned and never used. It’s that drugs, as with all hedonic activities, should be viewed as an occasional indulgence and not as a crutch, way or life, or something to be proud of.

    In a way, I would support the notion that drug use should be “safe, legal, and rare.” But given that many people can not help themselves, I’m not sure how best to do this.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  90. “Maybe we need a law doubling the sentence for dealing in cocaine or meth or marijuana if you also mix in fentanyl?”

    The correct answer is capital punishment. Drugs are a menace. Their dealers and traffickers deserve no mercy.

  91. A friend who’s a cop in Vermont says a lot of fentanyl overdoses are women offing their partners.

  92. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:

    There is no fentanyl laced marijuana. Makes no financial sense, though of course you can poison people for other reasons. Stick to dispensaries which are under intense scrutiny and dont waste your life being stoned or drunk all the time and you are fine.

    According to the Ontario Harm Reduction Network (OHRN), there have been no laboratory-confirmed cases of fentanyl laced cannabis. The rumor that drug dealers lace weed with fentanyl to cause clients to develop drug addiction is not substantiated, or financially sound.

  93. Prohibition always makes society better. We need to apply it to alcohol and end 95,000 alcohol related deaths per year in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Mark in BC

    You do realize that alcohol consumption rose during prohibition, don't you?

    https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure#

    Here's an interesting compilation
    https://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm


    I like this line.


    I have been told that before prohibition we had a saloon at every corner; since prohibition we have a distillery in practically every home.
     

    Replies: @Mark in BC

  94. @Achmed E. Newman
    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it. When it comes to the pot though, you're much safer growing your own now, and you may even learn you have a green thumb. Very bright green, haha.

    BTW, maybe the Mexicans are less competent, but I'd have have never expected good quality control out of China anyway. It's bad enough they sell eggs made out of concrete. You'd be lucky to get high at all!

    .


    PS: So, would you possibly admit the vaccine may not be such a great risk for a young person? (OK, I don't wanna start a thing here ...)

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimmy1969, @AnotherDad

    Why not just legalize it and buy it in government controlled stores like they do up in Canada. It is safe and you know what you are getting.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @Jimmy1969

    Yes! Wise, benevolent, competent government is always the solution! Government control always makes the output transparent, safe, and efficient. They can centrally plan the entire value chain from seeds to ashes, deftly allocating resources from their pinpoint expertise.

    Plus, of course, there are all of the other side benefits -- government can tax it to gain funds for further investment in society! Some of this investment will take the form of mitigating unintended consequences (in fairness, which were totally unforeseeable) like treating addiction, policing black markets that will stubbornly emerge to undercut government prices, addressing corruption that a few bad apples will unhelpfully commit in allocating licenses, public-service messaging, and the like. Then more funds can be used to address all of the second-order unintended consequences such as ensuring that everyone has fair and equal access to what is now a public good, making sure the technicians who provide medical care are sufficiently diverse and represented by a union, and protecting the supply chain.

    Eventually the whole government-drug industrial complex will be a Rube Goldberg device that can only be managed by the skilled, public-spirited mandarin class.

  95. @Dave Pinsen
    If America were being governed in the interest of its people, we'd be ignoring the Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. entirely and focusing instead on Mexico until the drugs and illegal migrants from there slowed to a trickle.

    Replies: @Charon, @newrouter, @epebble, @Recently Based, @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus

    Trump had every opportunity to do that and failed Miserably. What makes you think that when he steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Corvinus

    Clown and troll.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Reg Cæsar

  96. > What makes you think that when [Trump] steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?

    Corvinus, I’d be agreeing with you if I knew what steaking an election was. Hopefully our fellow conservatives will benefit from your wisdom as they mark their ballots.

    • LOL: Another Canadian
  97. @Robert Dolan
    Congratulations to George Floyd!

    Two years drug free!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Truth

    …And a special congrats to Daniel Shaver; four years bill-free.

  98. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  99. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    Your opinion may or may not be right. But that WaPo “debunking” article is just plain stupid. It says nothing about how many young athletes have died or whether vaccine could have been a cause. It says risk from vaccine is low, says nothing about risk of corona to 20-something athletes, but then concludes with no data that risk A is lower than B.

    It then says that anyone who notices athletes dying and thinks it’s strange is a “four Pinnochio” liar. The dishonesty, stupidity and arrogance of the MSM inevitably causes people who hate those qualities to believe the exact opposite of whatever they say.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    The way this whole "vax kills athletes" thing got going was from unfounded rumors that got repeated and magnified and transmitted around the world. Show me a controlled study that the vax kills vaccinated athletes (at a higher rate than unvaccinated) and then I'll believe you (or at least give your study careful consideration). Somehow, our scientific establishment is supposed to meet this impossibly high standard of proof (because you don't trust them) but some random guy on the internet types something about athletes and vaccines or taking flea medicine for covid and him you trust instead ? I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Replies: @SteeringWheelHolder, @Hypnotoad666, @epebble

  100. @Matthew Kelly
    This seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @ic1000, @epebble, @Muggles

    > [Skyrocketing fatal fentanyl overdose rates] seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Most of us have friends and family who do reckless and stupid things, often as a side effect of being young. Best if it’s a one-off, but sometimes bad judgement lasts a week, a year, decades. My preference is for people to have more not fewer chances to straighten out their lives.

    So the world is better when body counts from auto accidents, overdoses, and shootings are lower.

    Read Sam Quinones’ account of Flyover Country deindustrialization and decline, Dreamland. Zero sympathy for the deaths of despair that he chronicles?

    (Apologies if I missed the [sarc] tag on your comment.)

    • Disagree: Kylie
  101. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    So I guess the vax is just generally good for whatever ails ‘ya? Does the vax also cure baldness and sciatica and put a spring in your step?

    More likely our genius sciency-ists have simply re-discovered the concept of confounding variables. One of which is that a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed. It only takes a few of those people to skew all the numbers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666


    a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed
     
    I would think the opposite. How can you be "too sick" to get vaxxed? They especially vaxed all the people in nursing homes, etc.

    If I had to guess, the vaxxed consist of the most careful people, who took care to stay home and not expose themselves to other infectious diseases and to wear masks, while the unvaxxed went about their business. The vax itself didn't cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of a package of lifestyle changes that did. The unvaxxed, in addition to not getting vaxxed, made no such changes (or only the minimum that they could get away with) and so their death rate from other causes did not fall.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Redneck farmer, @Hypnotoad666

  102. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    I’ve given up arguing with the truthers and the Putinists but I was surprised that Steve, who is usually so careful, fell for the false rumors. It really shows you how powerful lies are.

  103. Rob says:

    I’m in chronic pain pain, so this is definitely a glass half full/empty thing, but overall, i think i’m lucky that opioids don’t work on me. They don’t kill pain or get me high.

    Coupling the chronic pain with a fondness for substances, and considering that getting medical care was impossible for decades, i would have turned to non-prescription opioids. Then i would have died.

    You know lateral flow assays, like the home pregnancy test? There’s one for fentanyl. Maybe they need much wider distribution. A “problem” of the test is that you have to put some of your drugs in water to dissolve the fentanyl, so you lose the drug you test.

    Here’s an interesting piece on receptor binding. At a ligand (eg. fentanyl) concentration of K_d, half the receptor is bound. Ar this point, The free ligand concentration equals K_d. Lower K_d is stronger binding. Check out pages three and four of these biochem notes. So, half the receptors bound at K_d. Up the fentanylconcentration five-fold, and you might be looking at 95% of the receptor being bound. The reasonable conclusion to draw from this is that the first bit of a drug (if it reaches dissociation constant concentration) has the most effect. Looks like fentanyl bindimg the mu opioid receptor has a biphasic K_d with a strong value of 0.46 nanomolar and a weak one 4.6 nM.

    Does fentanyl work orally? If not, it might be worthwhile to take all your recreational drugs orally.

  104. @Hypnotoad666
    @Pixo


    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.
     
    So I guess the vax is just generally good for whatever ails 'ya? Does the vax also cure baldness and sciatica and put a spring in your step?

    More likely our genius sciency-ists have simply re-discovered the concept of confounding variables. One of which is that a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed. It only takes a few of those people to skew all the numbers.

    Replies: @Jack D

    a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed

    I would think the opposite. How can you be “too sick” to get vaxxed? They especially vaxed all the people in nursing homes, etc.

    If I had to guess, the vaxxed consist of the most careful people, who took care to stay home and not expose themselves to other infectious diseases and to wear masks, while the unvaxxed went about their business. The vax itself didn’t cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of a package of lifestyle changes that did. The unvaxxed, in addition to not getting vaxxed, made no such changes (or only the minimum that they could get away with) and so their death rate from other causes did not fall.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Jack D

    "The vax itself didn't cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of lifestyle changes that did."

    So experimental "vaccines" that alter the recipient's DNA is a lifestyle choice?

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Jack D

    Jack, it says right on the bottles of livestock vaccines to NOT inoculate sick animals. Mostly because the vaccine will fail, but also because there's a chance it might kill the animal.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D


    How can you be “too sick” to get vaxxed?
     
    People in nursing homes who couldn't stand the reaction, or whose immune systems were too weak to produce any antibody response, anyway. The 5% of unvaxxed Britons included these people.
  105. “after George Floyd’s death”

    He’s not heavy, he’s Emmett’s brother.

  106. @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D

    Your opinion may or may not be right. But that WaPo "debunking" article is just plain stupid. It says nothing about how many young athletes have died or whether vaccine could have been a cause. It says risk from vaccine is low, says nothing about risk of corona to 20-something athletes, but then concludes with no data that risk A is lower than B.

    It then says that anyone who notices athletes dying and thinks it's strange is a "four Pinnochio" liar. The dishonesty, stupidity and arrogance of the MSM inevitably causes people who hate those qualities to believe the exact opposite of whatever they say.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    The way this whole “vax kills athletes” thing got going was from unfounded rumors that got repeated and magnified and transmitted around the world. Show me a controlled study that the vax kills vaccinated athletes (at a higher rate than unvaccinated) and then I’ll believe you (or at least give your study careful consideration). Somehow, our scientific establishment is supposed to meet this impossibly high standard of proof (because you don’t trust them) but some random guy on the internet types something about athletes and vaccines or taking flea medicine for covid and him you trust instead ? I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    • Replies: @SteeringWheelHolder
    @Jack D

    — Try all-cause mortality for working age adults

    — Or the “normalizing” of Sudden Adult Death (like SIDS, vaccine-caused).

    — The number of airline pilot deaths went from 6-12 to over 100 in one year.

    Infertility (last ten months) and mental health degradation are others, as are the severity & rate of highway wrecks. (Keep going).

    Who are the 2,000 recently caught in Spain with forged vaxx cards? Top dogs, including pharma.

    Why is the White House and the CDC not required to have the jab?

    Why has the Gov re-defined “vaccine” to a meaningless statement.

    Plus, there’s this thing called The Replication Crisis in science of which you’ve no doubt heard. (You’re on your own).

    You demand answers when it’s the questions which matter.

    It took guys with a room temperature IQ about two weeks to see the hoax. April Fools Day of 2020.

    Where are all the corpses? The street bums should have been wiped out. How is YOUR town handling the massive numbers?

    CV-19 was cooked up to get you to take The Death Jab. The Hot Shot.

    And you did.

    DENIAL is the first stage.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Jack D


    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).
     
    If you say that a group with essentially zero covid risk should take an experimental drug without being able to quantify the side effects, the burden should be on the drug advocate.

    Likewise, merely showing that someone made a claim without sufficient evidence (e.g., bananas can kill people), doesn't prove that bananas are always good for you. This is the go-to fallacy for the whole "fact checking" grift.

    , @epebble
    @Jack D

    why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Because Math is Hard. Really, multivariate statistics, sampling theory, Bayesian inference rules etc., are all beyond the grasp of most people. So, a convenient anecdote or two that reinforces one's prejudices and fears is very comforting. If you want to be philosophical about it, that is the Origin of Faith. Otherwise, how can one explain a billion people turning towards a meteorite five times a day, taking a dip in a river or consuming a piece of dry bread and fermented grape juice to bring solace to their souls?

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

  107. @Twinkie
    @Anon


    3.7 % of the booster shot recipients apparently reported myocarditis in a self-reported poll
     
    LOL.

    Myocarditis is a death sentence.
     
    It is not, you anon troll. The vast majority of people who have myocarditis recover with treatment. And on this Jack D (with whom I often argue) is correct - the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Peterike

    “ the data is crystal clear that contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.”

    Baloney. But even if true, being vaxed increases your chances of getting Covid markedly. So you lose either way.

  108. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666


    a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed
     
    I would think the opposite. How can you be "too sick" to get vaxxed? They especially vaxed all the people in nursing homes, etc.

    If I had to guess, the vaxxed consist of the most careful people, who took care to stay home and not expose themselves to other infectious diseases and to wear masks, while the unvaxxed went about their business. The vax itself didn't cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of a package of lifestyle changes that did. The unvaxxed, in addition to not getting vaxxed, made no such changes (or only the minimum that they could get away with) and so their death rate from other causes did not fall.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Redneck farmer, @Hypnotoad666

    “The vax itself didn’t cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of lifestyle changes that did.”

    So experimental “vaccines” that alter the recipient’s DNA is a lifestyle choice?

  109. Saw a decent article in LA Magazine that discovered the open border is the cause of homelessness in CA because the drug cartels are able to bring in so much meth and fentanyl.

    Thank Mayorkas and the Biden administration.

  110. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    Conservatives in flyover country and liberals in urban bubbles are in an arms race to see who can be more retarded. “You believe Dr. Fauci is a Bond villain who unleashed a bio weapon on America that’s also just the flu? Well I believe a man wearing a dress is a woman!”

    • LOL: Carol
  111. @Pixo
    @Mr. Anon

    Your response shows (1) you don’t know what the CDC does (2) you didn’t look at the study, which is primarily the work of and using data from Kaiser, the HMO most disliked by drug companies because they are stingy and and don’t let their doctors prescribe overpriced drugs on patent over equally effective generics.

    The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the pocket of Pfizer…. Well you go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine conspiracy quackery you want. I’ll enjoy my drastically lower risk of death and the ability to interact with my elderly relatives without killing them.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    “The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the the pocket of Pfizer …”

    Loads of research by reputable sources accumulated in the past two years has clearly illustrated that public health authorities, state and federal, have been thoroughly politicized. Albert Bourla’s public pronouncements are essentially policy diktats to health bureaucrats.

    “go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine quackery you want”

    I can believe in the viability of mainstream health treatments and still recognize that Western health systems have been corrupted and weaponized by oligarchs who seek to save Mother Earth from the human scourge. Creepoid Bill Gates once joked that if you want to kill off half of humanity a mass vaccination program was the way to do it.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Bill Gates is not a “creepoid,” he’s one of the finest Americans of his generation.

    Personally I will never say an unkind word about someone like Gates who promotes Pinker, who carefully but unapologetically has been defending IQ realism and the reality of recent human behavioral evolution.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/27/business/mind-meld-bill-gates-steven-pinker.html

    Sorry angry black professors, you can’t cancel Pinker!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/steven-pinker-harvard.html

    https://mega.ibxk.com.br/2018/02/06/bill-gates-06110131811023.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

  112. @Pixo
    @Hangnail Hans

    It is also an anti-ulcer medication that inhibits stomach acid. You take 4 pills a day, so a bottle of 60 isn’t much.

    For abortion purposes, 12 pills are dissolved in the cheeks or whoha.

    Replies: @Kim, @epebble

    So, in the abortion restricted states, these ulcer medications will become Controlled Substances and ulcer patients will have to jump through hoops to get their drug? If we go by the example of Opioids, that will lead to a black market/underground market in ulcer drugs and who knows what the consequences will be. If, on the other hand, they allow status quo, anybody who wants an abortion can get an ulcer prescription or ‘borrow’ a friend or relative’s ulcer medication. The state has to now do a strict audit of all ulcer prescriptions else they have a big hole in the anti-abortion policy. May we live in interesting times!

  113. @Matthew Kelly
    This seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @ic1000, @epebble, @Muggles

    I agree that State should generally tread lightly on voluntary deaths (suicide and suicide-lite) and use its limited resources on preventing involuntary deaths. However, in this case, many an innocent user is falling prey to adulterated legal drugs and hence there is a role for the state to prevent, what is effectively, pharmaceutical homicide.

  114. Pixo says:

    “I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?”

    They aren’t random dudes, they are attractive political and demographic matches pitching overpriced supplements, and their truth-indifferent quest for an audience is refined and evolves within brutally competitive social media. Antivax blabber works to sell supplements, especially ones that cost \$79 and are autobilled in a way that is difficult to cancel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_fraud

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Pixo

    I said the dudes were random, not the lies. The lies are, as you say, carefully tuned to be appealing.

  115. @Corvinus
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump had every opportunity to do that and failed Miserably. What makes you think that when he steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?

    Replies: @Clyde

    Clown and troll.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Clyde

    Don’t be too hard on Dave Pinsen.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Clyde



    What makes you think that when he steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?
     
    Clown and troll.
     
    Trump is not the kind to steak an election. He's more likely to burger it.

    Q: Why are food fights in academia so vicious?
    A: Because the steaks are so small.
  116. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666


    a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed
     
    I would think the opposite. How can you be "too sick" to get vaxxed? They especially vaxed all the people in nursing homes, etc.

    If I had to guess, the vaxxed consist of the most careful people, who took care to stay home and not expose themselves to other infectious diseases and to wear masks, while the unvaxxed went about their business. The vax itself didn't cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of a package of lifestyle changes that did. The unvaxxed, in addition to not getting vaxxed, made no such changes (or only the minimum that they could get away with) and so their death rate from other causes did not fall.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Redneck farmer, @Hypnotoad666

    Jack, it says right on the bottles of livestock vaccines to NOT inoculate sick animals. Mostly because the vaccine will fail, but also because there’s a chance it might kill the animal.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Redneck farmer

    All the baby and child care books, the endless pamphlets-passed out at hospitals and pediatricians offices all inform mothers to not get the kids vaccinated when sick. And the nurses always ask is the kid sick before giving the shot. Nowadays the Drs office includes
    “ cancel the vax appointment if the kids sick”
    in the text reminding parents of the appointment.

  117. @Charon

    The medical examiner’s office in Maryland said that he died from the combined effects of fentanyl and cocaine and that his death was ruled accidental.
     
    Yeah, but can we get a ruling from the medical examiner's office in Minneapolis?

    Replies: @Dchjk

    The only thing that can keep a black man from dying from Covid is a white cop’s knee.

  118. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    Agree, except it hasn’t been a century. The lying is basically a post-War, Jewish commie led effort which was pushed on to victory with endless media repetition.

    The pre-War scientific (Anglo) elites, while limited in their knowledge and wrong about this and that and the other thing–and burdened with some ethnocentrism–were basically stumbling the right track. Humans had common ancestors and were all related but had evolved a bit differently–had different characteristics–in different places.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    “ Agree, except it hasn’t been a century. The lying is basically a post-War, Jewish commie led effort which was pushed on to victory with endless media repetition.”

    There’s two trends we may be conflating here: telling of race-lies and suppression of race-truth.

    Certainly in 1922 one could travel in polite society and get tenure at Harvard while being fully honest about race. It wasn’t exactly the most popular view, but it was hardly suppressed. The Great Gatsby famously and crudely satirized concern with demographic decline.

    Lies about Africans, and their ability to integrate into societies where others are smarter, nicer, and less impulsive, have been going on for far longer than the US has had substantial Ashkenazi Jewish presence. Spend some time reading abolitionist literature in the 1830s-1850s, both US and UK. The numinous negro is not a post-war Jewish invention!

    Denialism about the genetic inequality of races generally began with the Great Revival and was a low-church Protestant affair.

    Denialism and the truth coexisted for a long while, really until the early 1990s. The Bell Curve got a positive review in the center-left New Republic in 1994!

    Further, Jews I believe controlled for other factors are less censorious than non-Jews. Partly it is self interest given their dominance of publishing. Censorship is bad for business, lost sales and having to employ censors, or as they are called now “content moderators.”

    If you want to single out Jews for our sorry state of affairs, where I think they really caused harm on race/IQ/crime issues is being really good propagandists. Gould, to take one example, was an incredible writer. My conservative HS bio teacher assigned one of his books, Full House, and it was a delight to read. (Not one about race at all.) Looking at a review of it:

    “ Dawkins once criticised Gould for being too good a writer. Now, there's a criticism you don't read every day.

    This is a stunning book. In it Gould discusses Plato's forms, his fight with cancer and his explanation of evolution as not being about increasing complexity. Prepare to have your fundamental assumptions about evolution shaken to the core.”

  119. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    george floyd had a bad heart, figuratively. His actual heart was very strong from pumping blood through his 90% occluded arteries — good exercise,

  120. @HammerJack
    @Twinkie


    contracting Covid poses a far greater danger of experiencing myocarditis than the Covid vaccine.
     
    How about boosters 1, 2, and 3? I ask seriously because I had two doses of the original (Pfizer) vaccine last year but wasn't permitted to receive a booster because my state was only serving "underserved communities" at the time.

    So, between my irritation at that and my growing ambivalence about the vaccine—as well as the greatly reduced threat of the omicron variant—I just said to hell with it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I know that people (even people who got the 1st two shots) are for some reason sick or wary of getting the boosters but I’ve been getting annual flu shots for decades and I’m still not dead. If the 1st two shots didn’t kill you, a 3rd and 4th and another one every year from now on isn’t probably going to kill you either.

    One thing to understand is that the booster isn’t (unfortunately) going to stop you from testing positive to Covid, except maybe for a few months. What it’s going to do is greatly reduce the severity of your infection so that you might test positive without any symptoms or you will only have mild, cold-like symptoms that aren’t going to kill you or put you in the hospital. And the good news is that if you do get infected, you probably are going to have additional immunity to Covid for at least a few months.

    This is not the same as being unvaxxed (or unboosted). If you are unvaxxed, you’ll also gain immunity, but only if you survive the infection.

  121. @Pixo
    “I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?”

    They aren’t random dudes, they are attractive political and demographic matches pitching overpriced supplements, and their truth-indifferent quest for an audience is refined and evolves within brutally competitive social media. Antivax blabber works to sell supplements, especially ones that cost $79 and are autobilled in a way that is difficult to cancel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_fraud

    Replies: @Jack D

    I said the dudes were random, not the lies. The lies are, as you say, carefully tuned to be appealing.

  122. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    “And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population. ”

    What the fuck is this horseshit? That line is lick something Orwell edited out of 1984 because even he thought it was too over the top. Are you insane? Who exactly did you have in mind when you penned this whopper? Fauci? Levine? LOL

    I hope you’re not an undercover FBI agent because if you are, they need to stop hiring the handicapped.

    • LOL: jejej
  123. @Achmed E. Newman
    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it. When it comes to the pot though, you're much safer growing your own now, and you may even learn you have a green thumb. Very bright green, haha.

    BTW, maybe the Mexicans are less competent, but I'd have have never expected good quality control out of China anyway. It's bad enough they sell eggs made out of concrete. You'd be lucky to get high at all!

    .


    PS: So, would you possibly admit the vaccine may not be such a great risk for a young person? (OK, I don't wanna start a thing here ...)

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimmy1969, @AnotherDad

    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it.

    That’s the gist of it. Drugs are one of those things that just cry out for “separate nations”.

    I have no interest in telling anyone who really wants to, “hey don’t poison yourself with meth, fentanyl, heroin …”.

    But I do not want any of in my community. I have no interest in having this low-life garage around. Not driving the streets. Not stealing stuff. Not trying to sell it to my kids. Not in “drug treatment” on my taxpayer dime. Not around period. And most–or at least a whole, whole lot–of normal people feel the same way. We’re entitled to live in communities with our norms.

    Minoritarianism is the ideology that normal productive people must bend over for looting by various minority parasites. That’s crap. Utter crap. Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

    Let the druggies have their druggy paradise where they can rot in hell. But those of us who don’t want it have our turf–and you bring that shit here–you’re done.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Your comment makes no sense. The people who are taking drugs are (largely but not only) YOUR PEOPLE. They are your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters. You keep on sorting out the people who are going to be allowed to live in your utopia and we already know that it doesn't include people of other races or who are not Old Stock but now we learn that druggies are not allowed to live their either (what about alkies? Alcoholism is a good old American virtue. Adulterers? Another good old time virtue.) By the time you are done sorting out who is good enough to live among you, there will be like 3 people who will qualify. I'm not even sure that you would be allowed to live there - that would be ironic for sure.

    Replies: @epebble, @AnotherDad

    , @JR Ewing
    @AnotherDad


    Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

     

    You might think that, but the prevailing orthodoxy is that vibrant BIPOCs are entitled to live in normal communities with normal people and anything that prevents that from happening is racist and mean and unamerican and frankly a threat to our democracy.
  124. @JR Ewing
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    If these people are accidentally OD'ing on fentanyl because they don't know it's in there, how are they going to decide they don't actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    If these people are accidentally OD’ing on fentanyl because they don’t know it’s in there, how are they going to decide they don’t actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?

    The doses are imprecise. Some people, like the NFL player, got a “hot dose.”

    As Steve wrote:

    Overdoses lately are often due to the recent practice of mixing fentanyl into traditional recreational drugs like cocaine, meth, and even marijuana. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.

    The object of lacing fentanyl into other drugs is to hook repeat customers. It won’t take long for someone who thinks he has an exorbitantly expensive cocaine habit to realize in his dope sickness and while staring into an empty wallet that he really has an expensive but manageable fentanyl habit. Fentanyl is highly potent relative to its weight and is made from industrial chemicals produced legally in China and mixed in the narco state of Mexico. This cuts out the need to have a large grow operation, and makes smuggling fentanyl much easier than other drugs, cutting out expensive overhead costs. (Find a video of what it takes to grow and process coca leaves into powder cocaine, and that’s before the smuggling operation which involves planes and submarines).

    Even though it’s much cheaper on the street than cocaine, fentanyl is much more profitable.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Another reason is simple cross-contamination by dealers who don't follow proper chemical handling procedures.

    , @JR Ewing
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    You missed my point. I don't doubt that the dealer has an incentive to try and get him hooked on a more profitable substance and I don't doubt the "hot dose" mishap.

    The question is, how does the user himself know that it's fentanyl he has developed a habit for if he doesn't know that the fentanyl is in the original purchase?

    Does the user go, "Damn this is really good cocaine. There must be fentanyl in here!"

    What am I missing?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  125. @Matthew Kelly
    This seems like natural selection at work. Why do we need more laws?

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @ic1000, @epebble, @Muggles

    Although the stats would be hard to dig up, I wonder what the black/non black death rate is for athlete/celebrity fentanyl related overdose deaths?

    It isn’t a totally black thing but in general blacks (Blacks!) are seen in news accounts far more than non blacks for being arrested under the influence, with drugs, or in ERs or morgues due to drugs.

    While blacks are a larger percentage of most pro sports athletes, I suspect their deaths or ODs are even higher than their participation rates. Celebs too.

    This was always a dangerous and legally problematic habit, but with fentanyl now included and seldom disclosed or carefully added, it can be a death sentence. Drug using homeless zombies are often users, and from some accounts they die after leaving some rehab stint. Opioids build up tolerances in users but if you clean up, and then re-use at former dosages, you may die.

    Musicians (e.g. Tom Petty) seem to succumb after coming off of a long tour. Maybe clean during the tour, but afterwards the “celebration” gets them.

    Low class black culture is often very tolerant of hard drug use. St. George Floyd was sent on church funded rehab stints in Minneapolis several times. When he died it was fentanyl related.

    Some Whites pick up this bad habit too. From what little data I have seen, not as common among Hispanics. Or Asians.

    Of course a lot of homeless zombies who OD are Whites. That “lifestyle” seems to attract the lowest common denominator.

    If recreational drugs were legally sold, you would likely have known ingredients and tort liability for selling mixed adulterated drugs with dangerous levels of opioids. Purity tests.

    Not a magic solution to this problem, but might stop the wave of poisonous drugs sold with adulterants.

  126. @Kim
    @Pixo

    People in the USA are prescribed $5bn a year in antacids when in the vast number of cases the problem may be not too much stomach acid but too little.

    Adequate levels of stomach acid can be restored by simply taking Betaine HCl for a few weeks. Betaine HCl is available over the counter but can also be bought very cheaply online (put it into capsules yourself) as it is commonly used as an appetite stimulant for all kinds of farm animals. It is completely safe for human use.

    Millions can thank me later.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    This is correct. The body becomes too alkaline. Another easy remedy is a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar before meals.

  127. @Mike Tre
    "E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl."

    I remember reading he ingested his stash of fentanyl so it wouldn't be discovered by the cops. It seems if it was in his meth, he would have died much closer to the time in which he smoked it, and that there would have been other meth/fent OD's that day by users who had bought their product from the same dealer.

    "In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs."

    A little further up stream - if you don't want to get addicted to opioids in the first place, stay away from doctors.

    Replies: @Alden, @Dchjk

    The corner found fentanyl in Floyd’s rectum mouth throat and esophagus. It was much much more than a personal stash. It was a dealer’s supply that he tried to hide in his rectum and stomach when he was arrested. Floyd killed himself by injecting his dealer’s supply of fentanyl.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    Everybody knows this, including Corvinus, who is just mocking the impotence of his enemies. Ignore him.

    (It reminds me of the US government a few years ago solemnly assuring the Russians that those missiles in Poland were targeted at Iran, not Russia. In both cases, you can just imagine the big smirk on the face of the person telling the whopper.)

  128. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Well… She’s 35 and she and her NASA educated husband have one child…

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Truth

    "35 and she and her NASA educated husband have one child"

    I didn't say she was childless, only that her pictures inspired the post. And if all bright women follow in her shoes we're in big trouble.

    I'm not arguing for women to be excluded from science, just noting that bright women in serious science (or any endeavour which uses up a major chunk of childbearing years and/or has a serious effect on fertility) is not an efficient system for any society, if Ricardo is correct.

    I'm not sure it's a complete coincidence that the UK and US were at the height of their power and influence in days when women in science (or politics) existed, but were exceptions (like Marie Curie or Margaret Sanger).

    Here are the top 32 politicians in China.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/attachement/jpg/site1/20121116/00221917e13e120fcb771c.jpg

    I was reading up (only Wiki alas) on famous lady scientists, and they are indeed a barren bunch, though not in ideas.
    Recent chemistry Nobelist Frances Arnold with three, Marie Curie with two children (and her Nobelist daughter, Marie Joliot-Curie also with two) seem positively teeming when compared with, say, Susan Greenfield or Rosalind Franklin (who I hadn't realised was Jewish).

  129. This article helps explain why vaxaholics like Jack D, Twinkie and others believe the ludicrous balderdash they believe.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/insufferable-arrogance-constantly-wrong

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  130. @Redneck farmer
    @Jack D

    Jack, it says right on the bottles of livestock vaccines to NOT inoculate sick animals. Mostly because the vaccine will fail, but also because there's a chance it might kill the animal.

    Replies: @Alden

    All the baby and child care books, the endless pamphlets-passed out at hospitals and pediatricians offices all inform mothers to not get the kids vaccinated when sick. And the nurses always ask is the kid sick before giving the shot. Nowadays the Drs office includes
    “ cancel the vax appointment if the kids sick”
    in the text reminding parents of the appointment.

  131. Pixo says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.
     
    Agree, except it hasn't been a century. The lying is basically a post-War, Jewish commie led effort which was pushed on to victory with endless media repetition.

    The pre-War scientific (Anglo) elites, while limited in their knowledge and wrong about this and that and the other thing--and burdened with some ethnocentrism--were basically stumbling the right track. Humans had common ancestors and were all related but had evolved a bit differently--had different characteristics--in different places.

    Replies: @Pixo

    “ Agree, except it hasn’t been a century. The lying is basically a post-War, Jewish commie led effort which was pushed on to victory with endless media repetition.”

    There’s two trends we may be conflating here: telling of race-lies and suppression of race-truth.

    Certainly in 1922 one could travel in polite society and get tenure at Harvard while being fully honest about race. It wasn’t exactly the most popular view, but it was hardly suppressed. The Great Gatsby famously and crudely satirized concern with demographic decline.

    Lies about Africans, and their ability to integrate into societies where others are smarter, nicer, and less impulsive, have been going on for far longer than the US has had substantial Ashkenazi Jewish presence. Spend some time reading abolitionist literature in the 1830s-1850s, both US and UK. The numinous negro is not a post-war Jewish invention!

    Denialism about the genetic inequality of races generally began with the Great Revival and was a low-church Protestant affair.

    Denialism and the truth coexisted for a long while, really until the early 1990s. The Bell Curve got a positive review in the center-left New Republic in 1994!

    Further, Jews I believe controlled for other factors are less censorious than non-Jews. Partly it is self interest given their dominance of publishing. Censorship is bad for business, lost sales and having to employ censors, or as they are called now “content moderators.”

    If you want to single out Jews for our sorry state of affairs, where I think they really caused harm on race/IQ/crime issues is being really good propagandists. Gould, to take one example, was an incredible writer. My conservative HS bio teacher assigned one of his books, Full House, and it was a delight to read. (Not one about race at all.) Looking at a review of it:

    “ Dawkins once criticised Gould for being too good a writer. Now, there’s a criticism you don’t read every day.

    This is a stunning book. In it Gould discusses Plato’s forms, his fight with cancer and his explanation of evolution as not being about increasing complexity. Prepare to have your fundamental assumptions about evolution shaken to the core.”

  132. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    Tempted to agree with you Jack, but i don’t know whether that’s really me agreeing or the chips Bill Gates had injected into me with the vax.

  133. @Clyde
    @Corvinus

    Clown and troll.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t be too hard on Dave Pinsen.

  134. “almost universally rely on the \$29.99 Magic Bullet blender,”

    This where education can really make a difference. The CDC/FDA/FBI/Dept of Education should produce a series of educational videos explaining how to properly mix (compound?) drugs.

  135. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    You must have missed out on middle school sex education. Not have you ever had a girl friend wife or children in your life.

    Women, or actually the fertile eggs women produce every month do not spontaneously become cycoblasts zygotes embryos babies human beings.

    The fertile eggs cannot create or conceive a baby on their own. This only happens when a male sperm penetrates the fertile egg. The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster by the prospective Mom or at a fertility clinic by a technician.

    So before your next woman hating screed familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction

    You’ve never heard of regression to the mean have you? It means that the children and grandchildren of unusually intelligent, tall, short, stupid, ugly beautiful blonde whatever parents often regress back to normal.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia arranged hundreds of marriages between 6’3 men and 5’9 women in an effort to create a cohort of very tall soldiers. Didn’t work. Some kids were a bit taller than the parents. Some kids were a bit shorter than the parents. Some were same height as the parents.

    Before pontificating about the fertility of women you don’t know and will ever meet; familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction. It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster...
     
    I sure hope you meant baster.

    It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.
     
    Until recently, it required an employed man, preferably with a ring on his finger.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans

    , @Ralph L
    @Alden

    Ridiculous. All she needs is a fish...or a bicycle, I forget which.

    , @Truth
    @Alden

    Big Aldey took a little vacation, came back Dropping Bombs on the M.O.U'z!

  136. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Altai

    Celebrities have enough money to either have their products assayed or taken by a court "taster".

    Replies: @OFWHAP

    A lethal dose of fentanyl is so small that having a “court taster” won’t do you much good. The way to properly test your product for fentanyl is to dissolve everything you plan to take in water and then test the water. Don’t trust your dealer just because he says that he tested the coke/molly/ketamine/whatever.

  137. Pixo says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    @Pixo

    "The idea Kaiser public health researchers (and the similarly stingy British NHS) are in the the pocket of Pfizer ..."

    Loads of research by reputable sources accumulated in the past two years has clearly illustrated that public health authorities, state and federal, have been thoroughly politicized. Albert Bourla's public pronouncements are essentially policy diktats to health bureaucrats.

    "go believe whatever fairy magic alternative medicine quackery you want"

    I can believe in the viability of mainstream health treatments and still recognize that Western health systems have been corrupted and weaponized by oligarchs who seek to save Mother Earth from the human scourge. Creepoid Bill Gates once joked that if you want to kill off half of humanity a mass vaccination program was the way to do it.

    Replies: @Pixo

    Bill Gates is not a “creepoid,” he’s one of the finest Americans of his generation.

    Personally I will never say an unkind word about someone like Gates who promotes Pinker, who carefully but unapologetically has been defending IQ realism and the reality of recent human behavioral evolution.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/27/business/mind-meld-bill-gates-steven-pinker.html

    Sorry angry black professors, you can’t cancel Pinker!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/steven-pinker-harvard.html

    • Troll: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Pixo

    Mike Tre is a fag. If he labels you a troll, that's a great achievement. Bill Gates is America's superhero.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  138. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it.
     
    That's the gist of it. Drugs are one of those things that just cry out for "separate nations".

    I have no interest in telling anyone who really wants to, "hey don't poison yourself with meth, fentanyl, heroin ...".

    But I do not want any of in my community. I have no interest in having this low-life garage around. Not driving the streets. Not stealing stuff. Not trying to sell it to my kids. Not in "drug treatment" on my taxpayer dime. Not around period. And most--or at least a whole, whole lot--of normal people feel the same way. We're entitled to live in communities with our norms.

    Minoritarianism is the ideology that normal productive people must bend over for looting by various minority parasites. That's crap. Utter crap. Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

    Let the druggies have their druggy paradise where they can rot in hell. But those of us who don't want it have our turf--and you bring that shit here--you're done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JR Ewing

    Your comment makes no sense. The people who are taking drugs are (largely but not only) YOUR PEOPLE. They are your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters. You keep on sorting out the people who are going to be allowed to live in your utopia and we already know that it doesn’t include people of other races or who are not Old Stock but now we learn that druggies are not allowed to live their either (what about alkies? Alcoholism is a good old American virtue. Adulterers? Another good old time virtue.) By the time you are done sorting out who is good enough to live among you, there will be like 3 people who will qualify. I’m not even sure that you would be allowed to live there – that would be ironic for sure.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Jack D

    Couldn't help recalling the saying by the German theologian Martin Niemöller:


    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

     
    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Your comment makes no sense. .... [blah, blah, blah straw man nonsense] ... 3 people who will qualify. ...
     
    Yawn. Jack it makes perfect sense.

    It's A) a nod to libertarianism--i'm not interested in denying people with different opinions the right to live as they wish as well. (Especially as we no longer consensus on the basics.)

    While B) insisting that normal productive Americans who actually make the society function have a right to a society with their norms.

    This is not remotely complicated or nonsensical.

    And far from "3 people", there are probably about a 100 million Americans are who are just fine with traditional American norms. Including borders, crimes, drugs, sexual dimorphism, homosexuals, trannies, etc. There are certainly tens of millions. Sure, they aren't on the separationist train yet--duh.

    But at least i'm offering some sort of actual solution to our predicament. Basically my problem/solution boils down to:
    -- America no longer has coherent common norms that are the basis for a functioning society, much less a civilized "nation"
    -- let's separate

    As far as i can tell your solution is ... American ought to be organized so that life is very good for Jewish lawyers and the uppity goyim don't cause any trouble ... but let's not get carried away, we need keep the blacks in line too.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

  139. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    The way this whole "vax kills athletes" thing got going was from unfounded rumors that got repeated and magnified and transmitted around the world. Show me a controlled study that the vax kills vaccinated athletes (at a higher rate than unvaccinated) and then I'll believe you (or at least give your study careful consideration). Somehow, our scientific establishment is supposed to meet this impossibly high standard of proof (because you don't trust them) but some random guy on the internet types something about athletes and vaccines or taking flea medicine for covid and him you trust instead ? I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Replies: @SteeringWheelHolder, @Hypnotoad666, @epebble

    — Try all-cause mortality for working age adults

    — Or the “normalizing” of Sudden Adult Death (like SIDS, vaccine-caused).

    — The number of airline pilot deaths went from 6-12 to over 100 in one year.

    Infertility (last ten months) and mental health degradation are others, as are the severity & rate of highway wrecks. (Keep going).

    Who are the 2,000 recently caught in Spain with forged vaxx cards? Top dogs, including pharma.

    Why is the White House and the CDC not required to have the jab?

    Why has the Gov re-defined “vaccine” to a meaningless statement.

    Plus, there’s this thing called The Replication Crisis in science of which you’ve no doubt heard. (You’re on your own).

    You demand answers when it’s the questions which matter.

    It took guys with a room temperature IQ about two weeks to see the hoax. April Fools Day of 2020.

    Where are all the corpses? The street bums should have been wiped out. How is YOUR town handling the massive numbers?

    CV-19 was cooked up to get you to take The Death Jab. The Hot Shot.

    And you did.

    DENIAL is the first stage.

  140. @Kratoklastes
    @Jack D

    Nice try, Shlomo. You cunts just can't lie straight. The small hats must be too tight, cutting off circulation to important bits of your brain.


    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.
     
    What's your source for this? Some GPT3-vulnerable scribbler at Bezos' Blog, or the talking points distributed in the daily Zoom call for the 101st Hasbara Chairborne?

    The reason I ask is that the "peer reviewed literature" is strikingly at odds:

    Example 1: Odds Ratio of between 8 and 30 (as as high as 44) - see "Age and sex-specific risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 messenger RNA vaccines" - Nature Communications 13, 3633 (2022)

    The money quote:


    We perform matched case-control studies and find increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis during the first week following vaccination, and particularly after the second dose, with adjusted odds ratios of myocarditis of 8.1 (95% confidence interval [CI], 6.7 to 9.9) for the BNT162b2 and 30 (95% CI, 21 to 43) for the mRNA-1273 vaccine. The largest associations are observed for myocarditis following mRNA-1273 vaccination in persons aged 18 to 24 years. Estimates of excess cases attributable to vaccination also reveal a substantial burden of both myocarditis and pericarditis across other age groups and in both males and females.
     
    Likewise: this 'Comment' article in Lancet (Busby (2022) "COVID-19 mRNA vaccination and myocarditis or pericarditis") gives links to 8 or 9 peer-reviewed publications that make abundantly clear that the risks are substantially higher than the base-case.

    Money quote II:


    Similar to previous studies, Wong and colleagues observed higher than expected rates of myocarditis (and pericarditis, a closely related clinical presentation), specifically in individuals younger than 35 years, with the highest risk among men aged 18–25 years after their second COVID-19 mRNA vaccine dose. The absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, calculated as the incidence rate within 1–7 days of vaccination, for men aged 18–25 years after a second vaccination dose was 2·17 (95% CI 1·55–3·04) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Moderna vaccine, mRNA-1273, and 1·71 (1·31–2·23) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, BNT162b2.
     
    You go ahead and keep telling people there's nothing to see: humanity is far better off with fewer of the sorts of people that could be influenced by you and the rest of your cock-mutilation cult.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, calculated as the incidence rate within 1–7 days of vaccination, for men aged 18–25 years after a second vaccination dose was 2·17 (95% CI 1·55–3·04) cases per 100 000 person-days for the Moderna vaccine, mRNA-1273,

    Now tell me the absolute risk of myocarditis or pericarditis for the same group of men who are infected with Covid and we can compare. Until then you are comparing apples to nothing.

    I didn’t say that the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is zero, just that it’s much smaller than the risk from Covid itself. 2 per 100,000 sounds like a pretty low risk to me. Out of those who got myocarditis from the vaccine, how many died?

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  141. @Mike Tre
    "E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl."

    I remember reading he ingested his stash of fentanyl so it wouldn't be discovered by the cops. It seems if it was in his meth, he would have died much closer to the time in which he smoked it, and that there would have been other meth/fent OD's that day by users who had bought their product from the same dealer.

    "In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs."

    A little further up stream - if you don't want to get addicted to opioids in the first place, stay away from doctors.

    Replies: @Alden, @Dchjk

    I was prescribed fentanyl and hydrocodone for a kidney stone. They were a great comfort to me in a time of excruciating pain, but I didn’t get addicted, because I’m not a degenerate.

    I advise YOU to stay away from doctors; bite a bullet, if necessary.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Dchjk

    So guys like Rush Limbaugh and Howard Hughes were degenerates? Who knew!

    The fact is 10's of thousands of formerly normal people trusted their doctors about the safe use of opioids only to have their lives destroyed after becoming addicted to prescription painkillers.

    I've never seen you post here before, but I do appreciate you identifying yourself as either mentally retarded or a big pharma handjobber right off the bat. It's easier for me to ignore you going forward.

  142. Submitted to the fake test?

    Ever wore a mask?

    Took The Jab?

    (Moral Cowardice).

    But, WHO CARES ABOUT YOU?

    It’s that you allowed strangers to harm your family —every one of these is a harm — they who depended upon you.

    For that, you’ll answer.

    .

  143. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Your comment makes no sense. The people who are taking drugs are (largely but not only) YOUR PEOPLE. They are your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters. You keep on sorting out the people who are going to be allowed to live in your utopia and we already know that it doesn't include people of other races or who are not Old Stock but now we learn that druggies are not allowed to live their either (what about alkies? Alcoholism is a good old American virtue. Adulterers? Another good old time virtue.) By the time you are done sorting out who is good enough to live among you, there will be like 3 people who will qualify. I'm not even sure that you would be allowed to live there - that would be ironic for sure.

    Replies: @epebble, @AnotherDad

    Couldn’t help recalling the saying by the German theologian Martin Niemöller:

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

  144. @Pixo
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Bill Gates is not a “creepoid,” he’s one of the finest Americans of his generation.

    Personally I will never say an unkind word about someone like Gates who promotes Pinker, who carefully but unapologetically has been defending IQ realism and the reality of recent human behavioral evolution.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/27/business/mind-meld-bill-gates-steven-pinker.html

    Sorry angry black professors, you can’t cancel Pinker!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/steven-pinker-harvard.html

    https://mega.ibxk.com.br/2018/02/06/bill-gates-06110131811023.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    Mike Tre is a fag. If he labels you a troll, that’s a great achievement. Bill Gates is America’s superhero.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon

    That was not a sarcastic LOL as I hate those, but I do think that was funny sarcasm. Was it? Anyone who's used Windows 10 knows that Bill Gates is anything but a superhero.

  145. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    The way this whole "vax kills athletes" thing got going was from unfounded rumors that got repeated and magnified and transmitted around the world. Show me a controlled study that the vax kills vaccinated athletes (at a higher rate than unvaccinated) and then I'll believe you (or at least give your study careful consideration). Somehow, our scientific establishment is supposed to meet this impossibly high standard of proof (because you don't trust them) but some random guy on the internet types something about athletes and vaccines or taking flea medicine for covid and him you trust instead ? I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Replies: @SteeringWheelHolder, @Hypnotoad666, @epebble

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    If you say that a group with essentially zero covid risk should take an experimental drug without being able to quantify the side effects, the burden should be on the drug advocate.

    Likewise, merely showing that someone made a claim without sufficient evidence (e.g., bananas can kill people), doesn’t prove that bananas are always good for you. This is the go-to fallacy for the whole “fact checking” grift.

  146. @HammerJack
    @Bill P

    Aren't most of these people taking drugs willingly? How are the dealers responsible for users' choices?

    Obviously I'm playing devil's advocate here but I think people should be responsible for their own behavior.

    That some drugs are increasingly cut with lethal quantities of fentanyl is a separate matter, which legalization would address via regulation.

    I'm not a drug user BTW.

    Replies: @Bill P

    The argument for legalization and regulation is worth consideration, but the extremely addictive nature of opioids is a major problem with that argument. I suppose if you’re willing to accept some high proportion of the population being hooked it could work, but do we really want so many people on maintenance? Ever see what happens to people who miss their dose of Suboxone?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Bill P

    There is no perfect solution here.

    Many people are "addicted" to nicotine in tobacco products. Likewise, alcoholism is common and accepted though behavior when drunk is far less tolerated.

    Half the Russian population are alcoholics yet even Putin can't do much about it. A crap nation that permits self medication to tolerate how things are done there.

    The extremely addictive drugs like opioids, meth and some others should be treated like alcohol. You can legally buy that after a certain age but bad behavior on that is punished more severely, even in harmless public settings.

    Since fentanyl is now readily added to other less addictive drugs, only enforceable and publicly available purity testing and standards will stem this. Almost no one any more dies from bad booze.

    There should also be social/economic sanctions for addicts who won't quit even after they are nabbed for "bad behavior." No, it's not a "disease" like COVID or cancer.

    People who want to live like feral cats should be given minimal public support or tolerance. Yes, maybe your friends, family or kids. So what? Enabling criminals and/or zombies isn't solving any problems.

    People with above a certain level of blood alcohol lose their driving licenses, insurance. A tough thing. Should apply to meth and opioids too. Dropped off welfare rolls, food stamps, Medicaid beyond bare minimum. No more than three chances for free rehab.

    Suicidal and homicidal behavior should not be subsidized or tolerated. If you don't act out, mooch or hurt others, then it's private business. Otherwise it isn't. China and other societies manage to prevent the worst of this.

    Why even resuscitate repeat opioid ODs? Frequent flyers should be allowed to leave the planet. Yes, some will "eventually" change, sometimes. You take personal responsibility for those, fine. Otherwise, let them take the path they have chosen.

  147. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Your comment makes no sense. The people who are taking drugs are (largely but not only) YOUR PEOPLE. They are your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters. You keep on sorting out the people who are going to be allowed to live in your utopia and we already know that it doesn't include people of other races or who are not Old Stock but now we learn that druggies are not allowed to live their either (what about alkies? Alcoholism is a good old American virtue. Adulterers? Another good old time virtue.) By the time you are done sorting out who is good enough to live among you, there will be like 3 people who will qualify. I'm not even sure that you would be allowed to live there - that would be ironic for sure.

    Replies: @epebble, @AnotherDad

    Your comment makes no sense. …. [blah, blah, blah straw man nonsense] … 3 people who will qualify. …

    Yawn. Jack it makes perfect sense.

    It’s A) a nod to libertarianism–i’m not interested in denying people with different opinions the right to live as they wish as well. (Especially as we no longer consensus on the basics.)

    While B) insisting that normal productive Americans who actually make the society function have a right to a society with their norms.

    This is not remotely complicated or nonsensical.

    And far from “3 people”, there are probably about a 100 million Americans are who are just fine with traditional American norms. Including borders, crimes, drugs, sexual dimorphism, homosexuals, trannies, etc. There are certainly tens of millions. Sure, they aren’t on the separationist train yet–duh.

    But at least i’m offering some sort of actual solution to our predicament. Basically my problem/solution boils down to:
    — America no longer has coherent common norms that are the basis for a functioning society, much less a civilized “nation”
    — let’s separate

    As far as i can tell your solution is … American ought to be organized so that life is very good for Jewish lawyers and the uppity goyim don’t cause any trouble … but let’s not get carried away, we need keep the blacks in line too.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I just don't know how your paradise will come to exist or how it will work.

    Where will it be located and how will the "normal" people seize this territory? Will there be an "exchange of population" like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    Now let's say that your New USA has been created and you are a fine upstanding citizen thereof, like all other NUSA citizens. But what happens if one of your kids develops a drug problem or decides that he his gay? What if YOU, late in life, decide that you look better in a dress? What if you child meets a Japanese girl on a trip and wants to marry her? Do you have to sell your business and your home and leave NUSA and move to Evil Land? What if Evil Land won't take you?

    I really just don't understand how your imaginary republic is going to work. I realize that you mean it as a rhetorical device ("why won't all the weird people just leave us normal white Christian people alone?") but it's a dumb one IMHO because I don't think there is any practical way to get there from here and even if there was it would not be a permanent solution because "goodness" as you define it is not a permanent irreversible condition. You of all people, as a Christian believer, should understand that we are all sinners.

    Replies: @Travis, @Pixo, @rebel yell

    , @Mr. Anon
    @AnotherDad

    Commenter Jack D has deconstructed your goy-republic. It will never work. But Israel - that will work out just fine. It's different somehow.

  148. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666

    If I say that bananas cause young healthy athletes to keel over and die, the burden of proof is on me to prove that this is statistically true (with the understanding that anecdote is not the singular of data).

    The way this whole "vax kills athletes" thing got going was from unfounded rumors that got repeated and magnified and transmitted around the world. Show me a controlled study that the vax kills vaccinated athletes (at a higher rate than unvaccinated) and then I'll believe you (or at least give your study careful consideration). Somehow, our scientific establishment is supposed to meet this impossibly high standard of proof (because you don't trust them) but some random guy on the internet types something about athletes and vaccines or taking flea medicine for covid and him you trust instead ? I understand that people no longer have any respect for our authorities but why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Replies: @SteeringWheelHolder, @Hypnotoad666, @epebble

    why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Because Math is Hard. Really, multivariate statistics, sampling theory, Bayesian inference rules etc., are all beyond the grasp of most people. So, a convenient anecdote or two that reinforces one’s prejudices and fears is very comforting. If you want to be philosophical about it, that is the Origin of Faith. Otherwise, how can one explain a billion people turning towards a meteorite five times a day, taking a dip in a river or consuming a piece of dry bread and fermented grape juice to bring solace to their souls?

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @epebble

    Here it is, the most cringeworthy comment on iSteve I've seen in months.

    Next time you tip your fedora as hard as this, please try to remember there are about a billion "believers" on this planet more intelligent than you are. Please stop embarrassing myself and other atheists with garbage comments like this.

    Thanks!

  149. I guess the drugs are a back-up just in case the cops don’t get ya at a traffic stop

    https://sputniknews.com/20220701/akron-prepares-for-protests-after-police-shoot-black-delivery-driver-jayland-walker-over-60-times-1096873740.html

    What their statement neglected to mention was that eight officers managed to fire more than 90 rounds at Walker, at least 60 of which struck his body.

    Any guesses as to the race of the cops? A 60+ % hit rate is a clue.

    Any guesses as to what Akron’s Fourth of July is going to look like?

  150. OT:

    DoorDash is having severe issues today. Maybe it’s just the holiday weekend but with all of the shortages and the general social dysfunction one wonders whether we really are on the tipping point of some civilizational collapse.

  151. @Robert Dolan
    @Corvinus

    Uh....I guess you missed the actual bodycam footage as well as the autopsy report.

    The bodycam showed the cop's knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck, and it was VERY clear.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the windpipe or neck, and also indicated that Saint George had over three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    And this factual information makes you a liar.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    I never made the claims you stated. What is factual is that Officer Chauvin used a lethal restraint maneuver for 9 minutes that unquestionably was a factor in Floyd’s death.

    • Agree: PaceLaw
    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Corvinus

    The restraint is only lethal if you've ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention. In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone's shoulder blade is not a "lethal restraint."

    Replies: @Corvinus

  152. @Patrick in SC
    @Corvinus


    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.
     
    Obviously, "Mr. Sailer" left that out because he really, really hates black people. That's why. Just like Officer Chauvin hated black people, as we now know from his dastardly kneeling on a guy as well as the dozens of black carcasses he left in his wake during his 19 year reign of terror with the Minneapolis police. Or something.

    See, putting your knee on someone's upper back doesn't kill them unless that person is already expiring from doing drugs, as was the case in George Floyd's demise. Hence, that "detail" is irrelevant considering the blog post is about overdosing on drugs.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.
     
    Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.

    Just make peace with the fact that you threw a man into a volcano because an angry mob demanded a sacrifice. Dressing it up in a ridiculous legal argument is rather unbecoming.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  153. After reading this discussion I am really really worried about the four Pfizer shots I got.

    No side effects yet, in fact seemingly no immune reaction at all. If not this year, certainly the next?

  154. @Bill P
    @HammerJack

    The argument for legalization and regulation is worth consideration, but the extremely addictive nature of opioids is a major problem with that argument. I suppose if you're willing to accept some high proportion of the population being hooked it could work, but do we really want so many people on maintenance? Ever see what happens to people who miss their dose of Suboxone?

    Replies: @Muggles

    There is no perfect solution here.

    Many people are “addicted” to nicotine in tobacco products. Likewise, alcoholism is common and accepted though behavior when drunk is far less tolerated.

    Half the Russian population are alcoholics yet even Putin can’t do much about it. A crap nation that permits self medication to tolerate how things are done there.

    The extremely addictive drugs like opioids, meth and some others should be treated like alcohol. You can legally buy that after a certain age but bad behavior on that is punished more severely, even in harmless public settings.

    Since fentanyl is now readily added to other less addictive drugs, only enforceable and publicly available purity testing and standards will stem this. Almost no one any more dies from bad booze.

    There should also be social/economic sanctions for addicts who won’t quit even after they are nabbed for “bad behavior.” No, it’s not a “disease” like COVID or cancer.

    People who want to live like feral cats should be given minimal public support or tolerance. Yes, maybe your friends, family or kids. So what? Enabling criminals and/or zombies isn’t solving any problems.

    People with above a certain level of blood alcohol lose their driving licenses, insurance. A tough thing. Should apply to meth and opioids too. Dropped off welfare rolls, food stamps, Medicaid beyond bare minimum. No more than three chances for free rehab.

    Suicidal and homicidal behavior should not be subsidized or tolerated. If you don’t act out, mooch or hurt others, then it’s private business. Otherwise it isn’t. China and other societies manage to prevent the worst of this.

    Why even resuscitate repeat opioid ODs? Frequent flyers should be allowed to leave the planet. Yes, some will “eventually” change, sometimes. You take personal responsibility for those, fine. Otherwise, let them take the path they have chosen.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  155. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @JR Ewing


    If these people are accidentally OD’ing on fentanyl because they don’t know it’s in there, how are they going to decide they don’t actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?
     
    The doses are imprecise. Some people, like the NFL player, got a "hot dose."

    As Steve wrote:

    Overdoses lately are often due to the recent practice of mixing fentanyl into traditional recreational drugs like cocaine, meth, and even marijuana. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.
     
    The object of lacing fentanyl into other drugs is to hook repeat customers. It won't take long for someone who thinks he has an exorbitantly expensive cocaine habit to realize in his dope sickness and while staring into an empty wallet that he really has an expensive but manageable fentanyl habit. Fentanyl is highly potent relative to its weight and is made from industrial chemicals produced legally in China and mixed in the narco state of Mexico. This cuts out the need to have a large grow operation, and makes smuggling fentanyl much easier than other drugs, cutting out expensive overhead costs. (Find a video of what it takes to grow and process coca leaves into powder cocaine, and that's before the smuggling operation which involves planes and submarines).

    Even though it's much cheaper on the street than cocaine, fentanyl is much more profitable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JR Ewing

    Another reason is simple cross-contamination by dealers who don’t follow proper chemical handling procedures.

  156. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    You must have missed out on middle school sex education. Not have you ever had a girl friend wife or children in your life.

    Women, or actually the fertile eggs women produce every month do not spontaneously become cycoblasts zygotes embryos babies human beings.

    The fertile eggs cannot create or conceive a baby on their own. This only happens when a male sperm penetrates the fertile egg. The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster by the prospective Mom or at a fertility clinic by a technician.

    So before your next woman hating screed familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction

    You’ve never heard of regression to the mean have you? It means that the children and grandchildren of unusually intelligent, tall, short, stupid, ugly beautiful blonde whatever parents often regress back to normal.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia arranged hundreds of marriages between 6’3 men and 5’9 women in an effort to create a cohort of very tall soldiers. Didn’t work. Some kids were a bit taller than the parents. Some kids were a bit shorter than the parents. Some were same height as the parents.

    Before pontificating about the fertility of women you don’t know and will ever meet; familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction. It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ralph L, @Truth

    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster…

    I sure hope you meant baster.

    It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    Until recently, it required an employed man, preferably with a ring on his finger.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Spell check creates its own words. For instance, when I type women spell check types womenswear. I’m sick of correcting spell check. However it’s done, a woman or her fertile egg can’t create a cycoblast zygote embryo or baby alone. Takes male involvement, either personally or plastically

    And whadabout the millions of 25 to 50 year old men in America who’ve never married or had children and never will?

    Solution to the imaginary fertility crisis the childless Men Of UNZ are so concerned about is:

    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.

    Whatever. As you know I despise these Men Of UNZ constantly blathering about a fertility crisis when the USA population increased every year. Want more kids in America???? Have some instead of posting about women you don’t know and will never meet. Yet Another Anon was so ignorant about the woman he wrote the comment about he claimed she’s childless. But she is married, has a child and is young enough to have another.

    Replies: @epebble, @jejej

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Reg Cæsar


    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster…
     
    Many of us had long wondered how on earth Alden and her progeny were conceived.

    https://youtu.be/AbqgBtxm4Jo

  157. @Corvinus
    @Patrick in SC

    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.

    Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.

    Just make peace with the fact that you threw a man into a volcano because an angry mob demanded a sacrifice. Dressing it up in a ridiculous legal argument is rather unbecoming.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    “Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.”

    You mean potentially could have ended in his death. All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  158. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING.

    Yes, I know that I salivate every year at the prospect of the new models of Portuguese luxury automobiles.

    FWIW, the girl in your pictures hosts some kind of Saturday morning “Science is Cool” show for kids, rather than actually making rockets.

  159. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; who wrote an entire chapter discussing Portuguese wine and port vs English cloth. And completely ignoring the fact that most of the wine consumed in England at the time came from nearby France.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Alden

    "I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; .."

    It was Ricardo. See Comparative Advantage.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @JR Ewing
    @Alden

    Nope it was Ricardo. Adam Smith was the Invisible Hand.

    My economics degree is really paying off!

    , @Anonymous
    @Alden

    England was continually at war with France which made French wine difficult to obtain. The English developed a taste for Spanish sherry and Portuguese port for this reason.

  160. jill says:

    Thanks to the First Step Act, Congress reduced the jail sentences for sale and distribution of illegal drugs and reduced the jail sentences of convicted drug dealers leading to the release of thousands onto the streets.

    Was there a growing shortage of drug dealers?

    Who does this in the middle of a drug overdose epidemic?

    Some West Point youngsters found out the hard way

    https://www.pumphreylawfirm.com/blog/spring-break-gone-south-west-point-military-cadets-overdose-on-fentanyl/

    No mandatory drug testing anymore?

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/19/inside-secret-drug-culture-at-west-point-other-military-schools/

  161. @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster...
     
    I sure hope you meant baster.

    It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.
     
    Until recently, it required an employed man, preferably with a ring on his finger.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans

    Spell check creates its own words. For instance, when I type women spell check types womenswear. I’m sick of correcting spell check. However it’s done, a woman or her fertile egg can’t create a cycoblast zygote embryo or baby alone. Takes male involvement, either personally or plastically

    And whadabout the millions of 25 to 50 year old men in America who’ve never married or had children and never will?

    Solution to the imaginary fertility crisis the childless Men Of UNZ are so concerned about is:

    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.

    Whatever. As you know I despise these Men Of UNZ constantly blathering about a fertility crisis when the USA population increased every year. Want more kids in America???? Have some instead of posting about women you don’t know and will never meet. Yet Another Anon was so ignorant about the woman he wrote the comment about he claimed she’s childless. But she is married, has a child and is young enough to have another.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Alden


    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.
     
    I have no puppy in the fertility fight. But as a matter of economic curiosity, may I observe that, If you succeed in 1 and 2, you may try 3, may be even 5. But you will not get 4. Most likely, it may even go disastrously in opposite direction. An important concept is - wages cannot be raised - they can only be earned. Similar experiments have been done before in history in countries as varied as Germany, Uganda, Zimbabwe, South Africa. Results have not been encouraging.
    , @jejej
    @Alden

    Zero immigration is not correct, ye Olde Krusty.

    Zero MALE immigration is correct.

    Traditionally, conquering Moab, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan would result in the massive "salvation" of their young fertile women.

    As each and every one of your comments indicate, your talons have become an annoyance and your voice need not be heard throughout the land.

    Lacking the legality of hearing criticism, as well as of having anything to do in your day you just get more and more shrill.

    The importation of 20 million desperate and well behaved foreign women each year would be a bounty for us and our posterity.

    We would of course supply you with a bucket of sand to pound in the shielded comfort of your own boudoir.

    And who knows? Maybe you'd emerge better behaved at the end of it.

    Man of Unz

  162. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    As with nearly all women:

    1. It’s all about her

    2. She thinks she’s hotter than she is,

    and

    3. Insists that you must agree.

  163. @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster...
     
    I sure hope you meant baster.

    It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.
     
    Until recently, it required an employed man, preferably with a ring on his finger.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans

    The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster…

    Many of us had long wondered how on earth Alden and her progeny were conceived.

  164. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @PaceLaw

    They all have "fiancées".

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    “It is a truth universally acknowledged…”

  165. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; who wrote an entire chapter discussing Portuguese wine and port vs English cloth. And completely ignoring the fact that most of the wine consumed in England at the time came from nearby France.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    “I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; ..”

    It was Ricardo. See Comparative Advantage.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @James B. Shearer

    Yes, it was Ricardo, alright, but Ricardo Montalbán, and it wasn't wine and cloth, it was champaign and fine Corinthian leather. Hey, don't sweat it, James - our memories are not quite as accurate as we think...

    The plane, boss, the plane!

    - Ghislaine Maxwell to her boss, Ricardo Epstein (as I recall)

  166. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    …Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine..’

    Not so fast there, buddy. As Jack Benny said, I’m thinking.

  167. @Corvinus
    “E.g., George Floyd probably was taking meth on the day of his demise and wound up with fentanyl in his system due to somebody in the supply chain cutting meth with fentanyl.“

    Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @Mr. Anon, @Patrick in SC, @Ron Mexico, @Redneck farmer, @JR Ewing, @Dchjk, @Colin Wright

    …Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail…’

    Sometimes I’m tempted to argue with you, but then I realize there’s no point.

    Interestingly, I go through exactly the same process with Evangelicals. With true believers, there’s no point. Whatever is logically demonstrated to them, they’ll just pick up the pieces and fight on.

    Won’t you?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    It has been logically demonstrated that the police maneuver used on Floyd was a contriving factor to his death. Mr. Sailer willfully left out this important detail because he has to keep up with his tin cup narrative. It’s called pandering. Do keep up.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  168. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Spell check creates its own words. For instance, when I type women spell check types womenswear. I’m sick of correcting spell check. However it’s done, a woman or her fertile egg can’t create a cycoblast zygote embryo or baby alone. Takes male involvement, either personally or plastically

    And whadabout the millions of 25 to 50 year old men in America who’ve never married or had children and never will?

    Solution to the imaginary fertility crisis the childless Men Of UNZ are so concerned about is:

    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.

    Whatever. As you know I despise these Men Of UNZ constantly blathering about a fertility crisis when the USA population increased every year. Want more kids in America???? Have some instead of posting about women you don’t know and will never meet. Yet Another Anon was so ignorant about the woman he wrote the comment about he claimed she’s childless. But she is married, has a child and is young enough to have another.

    Replies: @epebble, @jejej

    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.

    I have no puppy in the fertility fight. But as a matter of economic curiosity, may I observe that, If you succeed in 1 and 2, you may try 3, may be even 5. But you will not get 4. Most likely, it may even go disastrously in opposite direction. An important concept is – wages cannot be raised – they can only be earned. Similar experiments have been done before in history in countries as varied as Germany, Uganda, Zimbabwe, South Africa. Results have not been encouraging.

  169. One of the stories on the death of Prince was that it was due to a drug dealer who possessed a pill molding machine with the dies for making pills with the shape and markings for Oxy. The dealer ran out of his usual powder cocktail and either knowingly decided to substitute Fentanyl, or got a new batch of raw material stepped on with Fentanyl.
    Prince flat-lined on his private plane. The plane made an emergency landing and medics were able to revive him with a double hit of Narcan.
    He got home and a visit was scheduled for a drug rehabilitation therapist but Prince got into the same batch of pills and didn’t make it that time.
    Everyone connected with him swore they had no idea he was doing illicit drugs.

  170. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    You must have missed out on middle school sex education. Not have you ever had a girl friend wife or children in your life.

    Women, or actually the fertile eggs women produce every month do not spontaneously become cycoblasts zygotes embryos babies human beings.

    The fertile eggs cannot create or conceive a baby on their own. This only happens when a male sperm penetrates the fertile egg. The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster by the prospective Mom or at a fertility clinic by a technician.

    So before your next woman hating screed familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction

    You’ve never heard of regression to the mean have you? It means that the children and grandchildren of unusually intelligent, tall, short, stupid, ugly beautiful blonde whatever parents often regress back to normal.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia arranged hundreds of marriages between 6’3 men and 5’9 women in an effort to create a cohort of very tall soldiers. Didn’t work. Some kids were a bit taller than the parents. Some kids were a bit shorter than the parents. Some were same height as the parents.

    Before pontificating about the fertility of women you don’t know and will ever meet; familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction. It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ralph L, @Truth

    Ridiculous. All she needs is a fish…or a bicycle, I forget which.

  171. @Anon
    @Pixo

    Mike Tre is a fag. If he labels you a troll, that's a great achievement. Bill Gates is America's superhero.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    That was not a sarcastic LOL as I hate those, but I do think that was funny sarcasm. Was it? Anyone who’s used Windows 10 knows that Bill Gates is anything but a superhero.

  172. @James B. Shearer
    @Alden

    "I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; .."

    It was Ricardo. See Comparative Advantage.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, it was Ricardo, alright, but Ricardo Montalbán, and it wasn’t wine and cloth, it was champaign and fine Corinthian leather. Hey, don’t sweat it, James – our memories are not quite as accurate as we think…

    The plane, boss, the plane!

    – Ghislaine Maxwell to her boss, Ricardo Epstein (as I recall)

  173. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @JR Ewing


    If these people are accidentally OD’ing on fentanyl because they don’t know it’s in there, how are they going to decide they don’t actually like the cocaine itself and would rather have the mystery ingredient?
     
    The doses are imprecise. Some people, like the NFL player, got a "hot dose."

    As Steve wrote:

    Overdoses lately are often due to the recent practice of mixing fentanyl into traditional recreational drugs like cocaine, meth, and even marijuana. Apparently, a little fentanyl increases customer satisfaction and brings them back for more.
     
    The object of lacing fentanyl into other drugs is to hook repeat customers. It won't take long for someone who thinks he has an exorbitantly expensive cocaine habit to realize in his dope sickness and while staring into an empty wallet that he really has an expensive but manageable fentanyl habit. Fentanyl is highly potent relative to its weight and is made from industrial chemicals produced legally in China and mixed in the narco state of Mexico. This cuts out the need to have a large grow operation, and makes smuggling fentanyl much easier than other drugs, cutting out expensive overhead costs. (Find a video of what it takes to grow and process coca leaves into powder cocaine, and that's before the smuggling operation which involves planes and submarines).

    Even though it's much cheaper on the street than cocaine, fentanyl is much more profitable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JR Ewing

    You missed my point. I don’t doubt that the dealer has an incentive to try and get him hooked on a more profitable substance and I don’t doubt the “hot dose” mishap.

    The question is, how does the user himself know that it’s fentanyl he has developed a habit for if he doesn’t know that the fentanyl is in the original purchase?

    Does the user go, “Damn this is really good cocaine. There must be fentanyl in here!”

    What am I missing?

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @JR Ewing


    The question is, how does the user himself know that it’s fentanyl he has developed a habit for if he doesn’t know that the fentanyl is in the original purchase?

    Does the user go, “Damn this is really good cocaine. There must be fentanyl in here!”
     
    He buys more cocaine because somehow he's very quickly addicted to cocaine. He runs out of money because cocaine is very expensive. He gets dope sick and comes back for something to kill the sickness. He gets fentanyl sans cocaine.

    This is all assuming that someone can't figure out in short order from the quite different expected effects of cocaine and opioids that what he'd been using isn't pure cocaine.
  174. @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    ...Along with a police officer using a lethal restraint maneuver for over 9 minutes. I wonder why Mr. Sailer left out that important detail...'

    Sometimes I'm tempted to argue with you, but then I realize there's no point.

    Interestingly, I go through exactly the same process with Evangelicals. With true believers, there's no point. Whatever is logically demonstrated to them, they'll just pick up the pieces and fight on.

    Won't you?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    It has been logically demonstrated that the police maneuver used on Floyd was a contriving factor to his death. Mr. Sailer willfully left out this important detail because he has to keep up with his tin cup narrative. It’s called pandering. Do keep up.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    'It has been logically demonstrated that the police maneuver used on Floyd was a contriving factor to his death. Mr. Sailer willfully left out this important detail because he has to keep up with his tin cup narrative. It’s called pandering. Do keep up.'

    You've just added abusing the English language to your sins.

  175. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Try to keep your children away from ALL of it.
     
    That's the gist of it. Drugs are one of those things that just cry out for "separate nations".

    I have no interest in telling anyone who really wants to, "hey don't poison yourself with meth, fentanyl, heroin ...".

    But I do not want any of in my community. I have no interest in having this low-life garage around. Not driving the streets. Not stealing stuff. Not trying to sell it to my kids. Not in "drug treatment" on my taxpayer dime. Not around period. And most--or at least a whole, whole lot--of normal people feel the same way. We're entitled to live in communities with our norms.

    Minoritarianism is the ideology that normal productive people must bend over for looting by various minority parasites. That's crap. Utter crap. Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

    Let the druggies have their druggy paradise where they can rot in hell. But those of us who don't want it have our turf--and you bring that shit here--you're done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JR Ewing

    Normal people are entitled to live in our communities with our norms.

    You might think that, but the prevailing orthodoxy is that vibrant BIPOCs are entitled to live in normal communities with normal people and anything that prevents that from happening is racist and mean and unamerican and frankly a threat to our democracy.

  176. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    The drugs AND the maneuver were both instrumental in Floyd’s death.
     
    Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.

    Just make peace with the fact that you threw a man into a volcano because an angry mob demanded a sacrifice. Dressing it up in a ridiculous legal argument is rather unbecoming.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.”

    You mean potentially could have ended in his death. All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    You mean potentially could have ended in his death.
     
    No, I mean any attempt to arrest him would have rendered him in a body position which would have been a "contributing factor" in his death.

    All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.
     
    You can't be this ignorant. Chauvin was one of the second pair of officers to respond to the scene who where called to assist because the first pair couldn't get Floyd into the car due to his resistance. The police called for an ambulance which was en route when Floyd died, and they were all but certainly going to assist to get Floyd into the ambulance and to the emergency room rather than into the patrol car at that point. They were concerned that Floyd was in a state of drug induced excited delirium and subdued him to calm him down and so that he didn't injure himself.

    The fact is that you people decided that Chauvin choked Floyd to death with his knee, you made that the viral 24/7 narrative for political effect, and you had Chauvin and the three others charged for political purposes by a partisan, radical AG. You made certain that Chauvin became the "face of white supremacy" and that there was no chance that he could ever get a fair trial. And you threw him into the volcano to sate the mob that you stoked throughout the summer and fall for political purposes. Now, of course, your clients are shooting one another and committing other serious crimes at record rates and you're in search of lead paint chips to distract from what you did.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  177. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; who wrote an entire chapter discussing Portuguese wine and port vs English cloth. And completely ignoring the fact that most of the wine consumed in England at the time came from nearby France.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    Nope it was Ricardo. Adam Smith was the Invisible Hand.

    My economics degree is really paying off!

  178. Covid deaths per year doubled after the fake vaxxine. The two largest waves of death followed shots one+two (summer ’21 deltoid variant) and shots three+four (winter ’22 moronic variant).

    After I and many others publicly noted the above indisputable facts, Pfizer without explanation dropped its moronic vaxcine in the second week of February ’22. Well into summer now, we are not suffering a fourth wave of covid thanks to Pfizer abandoning the moronic vax.

    The fake vaxxes cause death, ventilators cause death, solitary confinements of old people cause death. Covid is a hoax.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Thanks: jejej
  179. HA says:
    @for-the-record
    @Jack D

    False.

    False.



    Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave

    While not establishing causal relationships, the findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side-effects and underscore the already established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z
     
    As someone once said, “a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.”

    Replies: @HA

    “Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave”

    This is all old news. According to an Oxford study (check out the lead statistician’s tweets here), the only group for which myocarditis risk from vaccines seemed greater than that from COVID was the under-40 male bracket. For the rest, it wasn’t generally 100 times greater (though it might have been for some cohorts) but hyperbole aside, what Jack D said about COVID-related myocarditis being significantly greater than vaccine-related myocarditis is correct.

    And even for the under-40 males, there’s good reason to be not surprised why larger studies didn’t back up the Oxford study. The Oxford statisticians themselves admitted, given myocarditis is so rare among young people (with or without the vaccine), that their results were a first pass, and really needed to be pooled with other such studies. And when that was done, the overall numbers didn’t show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I’m guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children. (The Moderna jab was particularly problematic in the Oxford study when it came to young males, if I recall correctly.)

    Moreover, the young people that got in line first for the COVID shots tended to be young people with diabetes and asthma, which means that their results simply don’t generalize to the rest of the population. (A similar effect is present in the case of flu — it turns out kids who take a regular flu vaccine are 3x more likely to go to the hospital with flu than other kids, and for a while the anti-vaxxers were having a field day with that one. But a subsequent study verified the initial suspicion that those kids tended to be asthmatic and otherwise breathing-impaired, and even though they were indeed three times as likely to wind up in the hospital, they would have been in even worse shape without the flu vaccine.)

    Those interested in the studies can find the links in this thread.

    As for young athletes, again, there’s no evidence that vaccines are more to blame than COVID itself, which was early on recognized as a major clot former, and even mild cases can measurably elevate your heart attack risk for months afterwards. In the case of soccer players, there was a freak outlier of myocarditis deaths in Dec 2021, but that came and went so it’s hard to pin anything definitive on it. Any data-mining exercize with data as ragged as myocarditis deaths is likely to turn up some eye-popping stuff.

    • Thanks: ic1000, Jack D, Johann Ricke
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @HA


    And when that was done, the overall numbers didn’t show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I’m guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children.
     
    "Despite a massive media and government pressure campaign, American parents are overwhelmingly rejecting Covid vaccines for their young children.

    About one week after the shots became available, barely 1 percent of children under 5 have received mRNA jabs for Covid, data from several states show."

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/covid-shots-for-little-kids-are-doa

    This is just part of a bigger story, the bigger story being the collapse in demand for the vaccines. The vaccine propagandists have failed. This is in spite of attempts to have the government use coercion. These attempts at coercion actually backfired, something the vaccine proponents failed to consider as a possibility. If the government tries to suppress information critical of the vaccines, that will lead people to think they are trying to hide something. If the government tries to block alternative treatments, that will make people think the government is trying to eliminate competition from something that is better than the vaccines. If the government tries to mandate vaccines, people will wonder if these vaccines are so wonderful then why do they need to force people to get them?

    There has always been a common belief in this country that there is no group of people who are smarter than everyone else and therefore has a right to order others what to do. This includes government health agencies subject to regulatory capture by big pharma and the medical cartel. Everyone is equal. Since everyone is equal, everyone has a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This includes the right to pick what medical treatments to use and the right of doctors to pick what medical treatments to offer.

    Replies: @Rob

  180. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Thanks, interesting link. Better download link (PDF): https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

    Sometimes, when all else fails, one must actually READ research reports, rather than relying on third-hand characterizations by “influencers” with humanities degrees.

    One might find interesting nuggets such as this.

    Runxin Huang reports support for attending meetings or travel from Dynavax Technologies. Nicola P. Klein reports institutional support from Pfizer, Sanofi Pasteur, Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, and Protein Science (now Sanofi Pasteur to support vaccine studies). Elizabeth G. Liles reports research contracts from the National Human Genome Research Institute and Pfizer. Kerresa Morrissette reports research contracts from the National Institutes of Health, GlaxoSmithKline, and Merck Sharp & Dohme Corporation, outside the submitted work. [Emphasis added]

  181. “Fentanyl used to come from China, but then Beijing cracked down on their people making fentanyl and exporting it to the US. So now Chinese firms export the precursors of fentanyl to Mexico, where Mexicans make the final version of fentanyl and export it to the US.”

    China using Mexico as middlemen for exporting final finished products to the US.

    It sounds similar to other facets of the US economy, where so much has been outsourced to China, which then sends it back by way of Mexico.

    From iPhones, cars, and now even our meth and fentanyl, everything begins in China , and then goes thru Mexico before ending up in the US.

  182. Rob says:

    Here’s an interesting recreational drug puzzle. Methamphetamine comes in two isomers — 3d arrangements of atoms in space — dextrorotary (”right-handed”) and levorotary (”left-handed”). The left-handed version doesn’t get anyone (very) high. It’s in a legal prescription.
    Check out https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/

    Summary. The old way of making meth from pseudoephedrine made pure d meth. Today, ~80% of the meth the government seized in 2018 is made from P2P (first graph). P2P meth is racemic, so half the precursors (and weight) are wasted. But, most of the meth seized is pure d enantiomer. Eyeballing the next chart shows that the interdicted meth is 95% pure.

    What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction? Do they have some natural stereospecific reagent that either binds the pre-reduction intermediate so only one conformation is possible in the reaction? Do they have something that precipitates one version or the other?

    Fentanyl’s not the only drug in the world, ya know.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob


    P2P meth is racemic
     
    So you're saying the real problem is systemic racemicism?
    , @Steve Sailer
    @Rob

    Reporter Sam Quinones is begging biochemists to figure out what is going on with meth these days. A few years ago, the Mexican cartels went back to the old way of making meth, P2P, but it now seems to have a different effect on people than in the past: suddenly, we have all these homeless hoarder meth heads living on the streets with their stashes of stolen bicycles.

    Quinones is guessing that at some time in the 2010s, meth changed in some subtle way that nobody fully understands yet. He wishes some scientists would devote a lot of effort to figuring out what's going on with modern meth.

    Here's my review of his latest book:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/from-dreamland-to-nightmareland/

    , @ic1000
    @Rob

    The pseudonymous Substack essayist you link, Dynomight, is very good.

    The first paragraph of his linked post on meth synthesis provides links to Sam Quinones' work. That includes his excellent (and thus terrible) November 2021 Atlantic article on the rise of meth over the past decade, and its connections to all sorts of social ills.

    I'd long given up on that shell of a magazine for its low S/N ratio, but some worthwhile writers seem to find an outlet under the Widow Jobs.

    In his response to your comment, Steve linked his Taki's review of Quinones' follow-on book to Dreamland, a terrific read that's also worth a shout-out: From Dreamland to Nightmareland.

    , @Zero Philosopher
    @Rob

    "What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction?"

    Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are enantiomers of each other. Both enantiomers have two different isomers. One isomer is levo-rotatory, and the other is dextro-rotatory.

    The pseudoephedrine in cold medcines is the natural isomer or levo-pseudoephedrine. The levo-rotatory isomer of PE, when reduced, gives the dextro-rotatory isomer of methamphetamine because the position of one of the Hydrogen atoms in dextro-methamphetamine is the same as in levo-pseudoephedrine.

    In Nature, many molecules exhibit chirality. For instance, most amino acids that make up living cells are levo-rotatory. Conversely, dextrose, the most ubiquitous fuel found naturally, is dextro-rotatory.(d-dextrose).

    Myself: PhD biochemist(but I work with electro-plating for financial reasons).

  183. @Dchjk
    @Mike Tre

    I was prescribed fentanyl and hydrocodone for a kidney stone. They were a great comfort to me in a time of excruciating pain, but I didn’t get addicted, because I’m not a degenerate.

    I advise YOU to stay away from doctors; bite a bullet, if necessary.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    So guys like Rush Limbaugh and Howard Hughes were degenerates? Who knew!

    The fact is 10’s of thousands of formerly normal people trusted their doctors about the safe use of opioids only to have their lives destroyed after becoming addicted to prescription painkillers.

    I’ve never seen you post here before, but I do appreciate you identifying yourself as either mentally retarded or a big pharma handjobber right off the bat. It’s easier for me to ignore you going forward.

  184. @Dumbo
    Maybe stay away from "recreational drugs" as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal -- no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with "recreational drugs"? It could be interesting to find out.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Cloudbuster, @megabar, @Pontius, @Dave from Oz

    Gives you the munchies for bat soup.

  185. What is the world coming to, when you can’t even trust the quality of the bag of drugs you found on the floor of a restroom at a crowded bar/club. So sad.

  186. @Clyde
    @Corvinus

    Clown and troll.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Reg Cæsar

    What makes you think that when he steaks the 2024 election he will do what you want?

    Clown and troll.

    Trump is not the kind to steak an election. He’s more likely to burger it.

    Q: Why are food fights in academia so vicious?
    A: Because the steaks are so small.

  187. @Rob
    Here’s an interesting recreational drug puzzle. Methamphetamine comes in two isomers — 3d arrangements of atoms in space — dextrorotary (”right-handed”) and levorotary (”left-handed”). The left-handed version doesn’t get anyone (very) high. It’s in a legal prescription.
    Check out https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/

    Summary. The old way of making meth from pseudoephedrine made pure d meth. Today, ~80% of the meth the government seized in 2018 is made from P2P (first graph). P2P meth is racemic, so half the precursors (and weight) are wasted. But, most of the meth seized is pure d enantiomer. Eyeballing the next chart shows that the interdicted meth is 95% pure.

    What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction? Do they have some natural stereospecific reagent that either binds the pre-reduction intermediate so only one conformation is possible in the reaction? Do they have something that precipitates one version or the other?

    Fentanyl’s not the only drug in the world, ya know.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve Sailer, @ic1000, @Zero Philosopher

    P2P meth is racemic

    So you’re saying the real problem is systemic racemicism?

  188. @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    False.
     
    Your claim of false is unproven. Perhaps even false. You actually expect us to believe politifact sponsored "fact-checking" laundered through WaPo? What a crock.

    They cherry-pick a few instances of "far-right websites" being loose with the facts and conclude that any claims of elevated death-rates for young athletes is false. That's horses**t. There do seem to have been a lot of news reports of soccer players dying over the last two years. Those were from mainstream media sources, not scary "far-right websites". Just this year, two high-school basketball players, one in Illinois and one in Texas, dropped dead on the court on the same day.

    Is all this statistically significant? I don't know. And certainly WaPo is never going to bother investigating if it is or not.

    Then of course they trot out the VAERS numbers and instantly pooh-pooh them. VAERS is self-reported. VAERS is unrealiable. The implication is that those evil anti-vaxxers file false reports just to queer the statistics. Then why the Hell does the CDC and FDA still maintain it? Here is the reporting site:

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

    which contains this warning:

    "Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment."

    Do they think there are a lot of people who will risk being hounded by the Feds just to make a point? By the way, how many people has the DoJ prosecuted for filing a false VAERS report?

    Your propaganda is weak. I suggest you find better.

    Replies: @jejej

    Just this year, two high-school basketball players, one in Illinois and one in Texas, dropped dead on the court on the same day.

    At least this is something people talk about. How about all those people who dropped dead from running while masked?

    My God, maskers are so stupid…

    My counsin, a new york jewess, masked songard she ended up in the hospital with a face infection.

    I think the mask deaths and injuries aren’t talked about because the people who received them (cuz included) rightfully feel shame for having been so gullible and fanatical about something that is so evidently a bad idea that you feel it with every breath you take.

    Vaccing though was FORCED upon the masses.

    Masking? Never did it. Even in “follow the rules” fascist Portugal and crazy bitch run New York.

    But I would have given in on vaxing if they had made it just a bit more onerous.

    Still, it’s never too late to laugh at dead maskers. Other than kids and employees who were forced to mask and suffered for it. They deserve vengeance and I’m pretty sure in 10 years or so they’ll be gettin it.

  189. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    That’s what a century of scientific elites telling lies about biology and race gets us: distrust when they tell the truth about the safety and efficacy of a vaccine with strong side effects.

    In so many ways, racial diversity means we can’t have nice things. Public-spirited mass vaccination campaigns is #754 on the list. And more generally, selfless and public-spirited public intellectuals widely trusted by the general population.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Mike Tre, @jejej

    That comment is not a credit to your race.

    Your fascination with negroes is irrelevant. The Faucists didn’t mention any of these “serious side effects” you mention. They said, take it. It’s totally safe. Anyone who even considers doubting Our Word is a loon. And if you get vaxed you will not get covid.

    I don’t need to learn their opinions on trans chinese penises to expllain why no one trusts them.

    Not even you, Jack, Steve, AnotherDad, Corvenus or any of the womenfolk.

  190. @Anonymous
    Irresponsible people in the media have pushed drugs hard for at least 10 years. People like Joe Rogan and Bill Maher glamorized them. There was very little pushback or recognition of the danger.

    And you had this whole culture of people advocating the “living stoned” lifestyle. The wake and bake crew.

    Can anyone explain the zeal for being high on marijuana? I didn’t find it all that compelling.

    Replies: @jejej

    Both Rogans and Maher seem to be doing okay despite their known affection for the leaf.

    Besides, they didn’t “push drugs hard”, as you say.

    They pushed for the state to not arrest and imprison people for enjoying drugs as they see fit.

    “But what about the cheeeeeldrin!!!!”

    It amazes me how all of us (I am not immune) want the state to stay out of the citizenry’s business – except for, you know, our preferred exceptions, whatever they happen to be.

    In general, the fewer things the state can lock you up for – the better.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @jejej

    Rogan and Maher are older, high functioning celebrities. Cannabis use in teenagers, however, has been correlated to worse bouts of mental illness in those with a predisposition for such things. Overall cognitive function also takes a hit after years of use (again, the effect is worse among those who started young). As Charles Murray would point out, the post 1963 cultural revolution has had minimal impact on those of high intelligence, but has been increasingly disastrous as you go down the class ladder. We don't need drug use of any kind among 90 IQ folks who are a small step from losing any ability to consistently contribute to society. This is the primary demographic that will end up homeless, in prison, overdosed, etc. if society doesn't program them right. It's astonishing that society pretends to empathize with these people by being "non-judgemental", supporting "harm-reduction" and re-hab etc., when we need to go back to what worked in the past: strict enforcement of social and conduct norms (which would include the restoration of mental hospitals and institutions). Stefan Molyneux did a great show in which he gathered data and policy history showing that our modern problem of legions of homeless people and criminals roaming about is to a large extent caused by the ongoing collapse in infrastructure and personnel who deal with mental illness.

  191. @Jimmy1969
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Why not just legalize it and buy it in government controlled stores like they do up in Canada. It is safe and you know what you are getting.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    Yes! Wise, benevolent, competent government is always the solution! Government control always makes the output transparent, safe, and efficient. They can centrally plan the entire value chain from seeds to ashes, deftly allocating resources from their pinpoint expertise.

    Plus, of course, there are all of the other side benefits — government can tax it to gain funds for further investment in society! Some of this investment will take the form of mitigating unintended consequences (in fairness, which were totally unforeseeable) like treating addiction, policing black markets that will stubbornly emerge to undercut government prices, addressing corruption that a few bad apples will unhelpfully commit in allocating licenses, public-service messaging, and the like. Then more funds can be used to address all of the second-order unintended consequences such as ensuring that everyone has fair and equal access to what is now a public good, making sure the technicians who provide medical care are sufficiently diverse and represented by a union, and protecting the supply chain.

    Eventually the whole government-drug industrial complex will be a Rube Goldberg device that can only be managed by the skilled, public-spirited mandarin class.

  192. @Hapalong Cassidy
    I remember seeing an interview with a convicted heroin dealer who said he would intentionally put a fatal dose of fentanyl in one randomly selected packet because if word got out that someone had OD’ed on his product, it would actually increase his business.

    Replies: @jejej

    Bullshit.

  193. @Mark G.
    @Jack D

    There were lots of reports of myocarditis and other health issues after mandatory military Covid vaccinations that were recorded in the DoD database used to track the health of military members. DoD spokesmen then said this was just due to a major "computer glitch" that went undetected for five years. I've worked with DoD computer systems for over 25 years and have never seen or heard of a major computer glitch going undetected for five years, so I find this implausible.

    There is a government cover up going on and the mainstream media is complicit in this. The general public, though, is becoming aware of the ineffectiveness and possible dangers of the vaccines and many governments now have a problem with lots of unused doses of the vaccines that no one wants. As a DoD employee, I was required to get vaccinated but there is no talk about requiring booster shots. They won't admit they made a mistake forcing us to get vaccinated but at least they are letting us make our own decision now on whether to get the booster shots.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    As a DoD employee, I was required to get vaccinated but there is no talk about requiring booster shots.

    The point of the DoD mandate was to cripple the US military so the Chicoms can waltz into Taiwan, possibly Japan, unopposed.

  194. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but elsewhere on this site, commenter Kratoklastes reminded me of Ricardo's law of comparative advantage (I'd forgotten who'd formulated it).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage#Ricardian_model

    In a famous example, Ricardo considers a world economy consisting of two countries, Portugal and England, each producing two goods of identical quality. In Portugal, the a priori more efficient country, it is possible to produce wine and cloth with less labor than it would take to produce the same quantities in England. However, the relative costs or ranking of cost of producing those two goods differ between the countries.
     
    The English are lazy and inefficient – it takes them 100 hours of labour to produce one unit of cloth, and 120 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    The Portuguese are hardworking and efficient, it takes them 90 hours of labour for one unit of cloth and 80 hours to produce a unit of wine.

    Portuguese are better than the English at producing EVERYTHING. Yet, perhaps counter-intuitively, assuming free trade between the two, it’s better for the Portuguese to stick to winemaking, and the English to cloth – because that maximises the production of both goods.

    (Admittedly the argument says nothing about the relative utility and desirability of cloth vs wine. Few people can live without clothes, quite a few more without wine)

    Now apply this reasoning to the relative productivity of men and women, say to intelligent babies and space rockets.

    Here's a group of say 100 twenty-something women, bright and motivated. In ten years they can produce 100 rockets or 200 bright babies (still less than replacement, mind).

    Here's a group of 100 twenty-something men, bright and motivated, but without the special women-are-wonderful factor. So they can only produce 90 rockets in 10 years, but sadly zero bright babies.

    How do you maximise the number of bright babies AND rockets? Ricardo's theory says women should use their literally infinite comparative advantage over males when it comes to producing babies, and they should all concentrate on kids not fireworks.

    This applies to an awful lot of spheres but especially I'd have thought to advanced science. Female medics can still have kids in early 30s, take six years out and get back in the workforce with some extra training. Not so much for research scientists at the leading edge.

    (comment was prompted by these pictures)

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot4.png

    https://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/263/936/014/engineerhot5.jpg

    The thing is, she has a talent that no man has – given that she is obviously intelligent, she can produce intelligent babies – something that was beyond von Braun, Newton or Einstein. Clever men and women can build rockets, but only women can have babies – and in general only clever women can have clever babies.

    When people note the goods resulting from intelligent females in the workforce, they usually fail to note the opportunity cost of those females not doing what they’re best at.
     

    Replies: @Truth, @Alden, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Colin Wright, @The Wild Geese Howard

    comment was prompted by these pictures

    That broad has engineered jack shit over infinity squared.

    Everyone knows MIT has been a woke joke school for years.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
  195. @Rob
    Here’s an interesting recreational drug puzzle. Methamphetamine comes in two isomers — 3d arrangements of atoms in space — dextrorotary (”right-handed”) and levorotary (”left-handed”). The left-handed version doesn’t get anyone (very) high. It’s in a legal prescription.
    Check out https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/

    Summary. The old way of making meth from pseudoephedrine made pure d meth. Today, ~80% of the meth the government seized in 2018 is made from P2P (first graph). P2P meth is racemic, so half the precursors (and weight) are wasted. But, most of the meth seized is pure d enantiomer. Eyeballing the next chart shows that the interdicted meth is 95% pure.

    What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction? Do they have some natural stereospecific reagent that either binds the pre-reduction intermediate so only one conformation is possible in the reaction? Do they have something that precipitates one version or the other?

    Fentanyl’s not the only drug in the world, ya know.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve Sailer, @ic1000, @Zero Philosopher

    Reporter Sam Quinones is begging biochemists to figure out what is going on with meth these days. A few years ago, the Mexican cartels went back to the old way of making meth, P2P, but it now seems to have a different effect on people than in the past: suddenly, we have all these homeless hoarder meth heads living on the streets with their stashes of stolen bicycles.

    Quinones is guessing that at some time in the 2010s, meth changed in some subtle way that nobody fully understands yet. He wishes some scientists would devote a lot of effort to figuring out what’s going on with modern meth.

    Here’s my review of his latest book:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/from-dreamland-to-nightmareland/

    • Thanks: ic1000, Rob
  196. @Mark in BC
    Prohibition always makes society better. We need to apply it to alcohol and end 95,000 alcohol related deaths per year in the U.S.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    You do realize that alcohol consumption rose during prohibition, don’t you?

    https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure#

    Here’s an interesting compilation
    https://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm

    I like this line.

    I have been told that before prohibition we had a saloon at every corner; since prohibition we have a distillery in practically every home.

    • Replies: @Mark in BC
    @Bill Jones

    Sorry I didn't make my sarcasm more clear. To be clear, the Pure Food & Drug Act along with the Harrison Narcotics Act, need to be repealed. The idea of GovCo "controlling" drugs is ludicrous as well as un-Constitutional.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  197. @JimB

    In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.
     
    Or shoot up in a public library. The librarians keep Narcan. But if you’re an addict, don’t mess with the veins in your thigh. That’s where the librarians are trained to inject you. They aren’t medical technicians who know how to poke around for an uncollapsed vein.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Cloudbuster, @Jay Fink, @Dumbo

    I never knew that about libraries but am not surprised. The clientele at the downtown library in my city is majority drug addicted, mentally ill homeless. Many of these guys talk to themselves very loudly and the librarians never tell them to be quiet (isn’t that what they used to be known for?). There is incredible negative energy in that building. It’s an old library and I think to myself how civilized it must have been in decades past.

    It’s really a shame that Narcan exists. The only chance we have of gaining any of our civility back is to let these addicts die when they OD. It’s the natural order of things. Not having so many druggies in the population will make us a more decent and wholesome nation.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Disagree: JimB
    • Replies: @JimB
    @Jay Fink


    The only chance we have of gaining any of our civility back is to let these addicts die when they OD.
     
    Opioid addiction can happen to anyone, including you. Kids often get addicted because it’s cheap and used as a booster by illegal immigrant drug dealers in pot and other recreational drugs that are currently socially sanctioned. Adults get addicted because of third world immigrant doctors handing out scrips for OxyContin to rural whites like candy.

    So basically, flooding the zone with fentanyl and OxyContin is, in fact, a plot to commit white genocide carried out by all the usual suspects for various reasons. I don’t think the great white death is a good way to restore national civility. Do you?

  198. @PaceLaw
    @Matthew Kelly

    I totally agree with you Matthew. This former Baltimore Raven who was only 26 and making an absurd amount of money, and apparently engaged and had children, still couldn’t find enough satisfaction in life and had to turn to these certain substances. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-jaylon-ferguson-fiancee-ravens-death-20220701-iuuiepjhyndtzflu53zck7k3ka-story.html

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Brutusale

    Back in the 80s when a talented NBA player named Michael Ray Richardson was suspended from the league for life after his third failed drug test, Boston Celtics great Kevin McHale said, “Hey, how long is the average NBA career? 3-4 years? Why take the chance? You’ve got the whole rest of your life to do drugs?’.

  199. @JimB

    In the meantime, if you don’t want to risk dying of a fentanyl OD, stay away from recreational drugs.
     
    Or shoot up in a public library. The librarians keep Narcan. But if you’re an addict, don’t mess with the veins in your thigh. That’s where the librarians are trained to inject you. They aren’t medical technicians who know how to poke around for an uncollapsed vein.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Cloudbuster, @Jay Fink, @Dumbo

    Are librarians trained to apply Narcan??

    It’s weird to see public libraries in the U.S. having become day-cares for dirty homeless and drug addicts shooting heroin or watching internet porn, and no one doing anything about it.

    In most of Europe they still function as, well, libraries.

    • Replies: @Onebelowall
    @Dumbo

    Ironically, I studied to be a librarian because I was sick of dealing with the stress of teaching.

  200. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hey, Steve.

    Speaking of football…. Any thoughts on your UCLA Bruins joining the Big 10?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Brutusale

  201. @epebble
    @Jack D

    why would you respect anonymous random dudes instead?

    Because Math is Hard. Really, multivariate statistics, sampling theory, Bayesian inference rules etc., are all beyond the grasp of most people. So, a convenient anecdote or two that reinforces one's prejudices and fears is very comforting. If you want to be philosophical about it, that is the Origin of Faith. Otherwise, how can one explain a billion people turning towards a meteorite five times a day, taking a dip in a river or consuming a piece of dry bread and fermented grape juice to bring solace to their souls?

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

    Here it is, the most cringeworthy comment on iSteve I’ve seen in months.

    Next time you tip your fedora as hard as this, please try to remember there are about a billion “believers” on this planet more intelligent than you are. Please stop embarrassing myself and other atheists with garbage comments like this.

    Thanks!

  202. @Corvinus
    @Robert Dolan

    I never made the claims you stated. What is factual is that Officer Chauvin used a lethal restraint maneuver for 9 minutes that unquestionably was a factor in Floyd’s death.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

    The restraint is only lethal if you’ve ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention. In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone’s shoulder blade is not a “lethal restraint.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Aeronerauk

    “The restraint is only lethal if you’ve ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention."

    Which results in prosecution.

    “In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone’s shoulder blade is not a “lethal restraint”.

    It is for over 9 minutes by kneeling on someone’s neck.

    https://apnews.com/article/trials-derek-chauvin-minneapolis-racial-injustice-060f6e9e8b7079505a1b096a68311c2b

    Lt. Johnny Mercil, who has been in charge of teaching the use of force in the Minneapolis Police Department's training division, says former officer Derek Chauvin's use of his knee on George Floyd's neck is not a technique the police teach when instructing officers how to restrain people.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

  203. @jejej
    @Anonymous

    Both Rogans and Maher seem to be doing okay despite their known affection for the leaf.

    Besides, they didn't "push drugs hard", as you say.

    They pushed for the state to not arrest and imprison people for enjoying drugs as they see fit.

    "But what about the cheeeeeldrin!!!!"

    It amazes me how all of us (I am not immune) want the state to stay out of the citizenry's business - except for, you know, our preferred exceptions, whatever they happen to be.

    In general, the fewer things the state can lock you up for - the better.

    Replies: @Feryl

    Rogan and Maher are older, high functioning celebrities. Cannabis use in teenagers, however, has been correlated to worse bouts of mental illness in those with a predisposition for such things. Overall cognitive function also takes a hit after years of use (again, the effect is worse among those who started young). As Charles Murray would point out, the post 1963 cultural revolution has had minimal impact on those of high intelligence, but has been increasingly disastrous as you go down the class ladder. We don’t need drug use of any kind among 90 IQ folks who are a small step from losing any ability to consistently contribute to society. This is the primary demographic that will end up homeless, in prison, overdosed, etc. if society doesn’t program them right. It’s astonishing that society pretends to empathize with these people by being “non-judgemental”, supporting “harm-reduction” and re-hab etc., when we need to go back to what worked in the past: strict enforcement of social and conduct norms (which would include the restoration of mental hospitals and institutions). Stefan Molyneux did a great show in which he gathered data and policy history showing that our modern problem of legions of homeless people and criminals roaming about is to a large extent caused by the ongoing collapse in infrastructure and personnel who deal with mental illness.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  204. @Dumbo
    Maybe stay away from "recreational drugs" as a matter of principle? Personally I never saw the point of any of them. Except perhaps alcohol and coffee, but those are legal.

    But considering that marihuana is legal now in most places, and other drugs are quickly becoming legal (or in practice legal -- no arrests for possession), I guess that ship has sailed.

    I guess they want a drugged-up population.

    P.S. Btw, did anyone do any research on the effects of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines when combined with "recreational drugs"? It could be interesting to find out.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Cloudbuster, @megabar, @Pontius, @Dave from Oz

    No, it’s not because “they” want a drugged-up population. “They” have already legalised the drugs they prefer the population to be on: caffeine at work, alcohol when not at work. Oh, and sugar. It’s because drugs have always, always been a thing. Because – as one British jurist put it (approximately) – “the main reason our courts and prisons are overloaded is that a significant proportion of the population enjoys taking drugs, and nothing on earth can dissuade them from doing it”.

    Much like no-fault divorce laws, legalisation of drugs is becoming a thing because society can’t run the court system the way things are going. There simply aren’t enough judges.

  205. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Seems like our Steve S erred on the side of “reefer madness” when he said that Fentanyl also gets mixed with MJ. Why? MJ isn’t a White powder recreational drug.

  206. @JR Ewing
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    You missed my point. I don't doubt that the dealer has an incentive to try and get him hooked on a more profitable substance and I don't doubt the "hot dose" mishap.

    The question is, how does the user himself know that it's fentanyl he has developed a habit for if he doesn't know that the fentanyl is in the original purchase?

    Does the user go, "Damn this is really good cocaine. There must be fentanyl in here!"

    What am I missing?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    The question is, how does the user himself know that it’s fentanyl he has developed a habit for if he doesn’t know that the fentanyl is in the original purchase?

    Does the user go, “Damn this is really good cocaine. There must be fentanyl in here!”

    He buys more cocaine because somehow he’s very quickly addicted to cocaine. He runs out of money because cocaine is very expensive. He gets dope sick and comes back for something to kill the sickness. He gets fentanyl sans cocaine.

    This is all assuming that someone can’t figure out in short order from the quite different expected effects of cocaine and opioids that what he’d been using isn’t pure cocaine.

  207. @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    “Any serious attempt to arrest Floyd, who had been resisting, was going to end in his death that day due to his intake of fatal doses of illicit drugs and an existing cardiovascular disease.”

    You mean potentially could have ended in his death. All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    You mean potentially could have ended in his death.

    No, I mean any attempt to arrest him would have rendered him in a body position which would have been a “contributing factor” in his death.

    All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.

    You can’t be this ignorant. Chauvin was one of the second pair of officers to respond to the scene who where called to assist because the first pair couldn’t get Floyd into the car due to his resistance. The police called for an ambulance which was en route when Floyd died, and they were all but certainly going to assist to get Floyd into the ambulance and to the emergency room rather than into the patrol car at that point. They were concerned that Floyd was in a state of drug induced excited delirium and subdued him to calm him down and so that he didn’t injure himself.

    The fact is that you people decided that Chauvin choked Floyd to death with his knee, you made that the viral 24/7 narrative for political effect, and you had Chauvin and the three others charged for political purposes by a partisan, radical AG. You made certain that Chauvin became the “face of white supremacy” and that there was no chance that he could ever get a fair trial. And you threw him into the volcano to sate the mob that you stoked throughout the summer and fall for political purposes. Now, of course, your clients are shooting one another and committing other serious crimes at record rates and you’re in search of lead paint chips to distract from what you did.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    “No, I mean any attempt to arrest him would have rendered him in a body position which would have been a “contributing factor” in his death.”

    You’re only speculating here.

    “They were concerned that Floyd was in a state of drug induced excited delirium and subdued him to calm him down and so that he didn’t injure himself.”

    Subdue him by having several officers wrestle him to the ground, cuff him, and put him in the back of the police vehicle.

    “The fact is that you people decided that Chauvin choked Floyd to death with his knee…”

    Chauvin made that decision to use a police maneuver longer than it needed to be implemented. The cops were waiting around.

  208. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    The corner found fentanyl in Floyd’s rectum mouth throat and esophagus. It was much much more than a personal stash. It was a dealer’s supply that he tried to hide in his rectum and stomach when he was arrested. Floyd killed himself by injecting his dealer’s supply of fentanyl.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Everybody knows this, including Corvinus, who is just mocking the impotence of his enemies. Ignore him.

    (It reminds me of the US government a few years ago solemnly assuring the Russians that those missiles in Poland were targeted at Iran, not Russia. In both cases, you can just imagine the big smirk on the face of the person telling the whopper.)

  209. @Truth
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Well... She's 35 and she and her NASA educated husband have one child...

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “35 and she and her NASA educated husband have one child”

    I didn’t say she was childless, only that her pictures inspired the post. And if all bright women follow in her shoes we’re in big trouble.

    I’m not arguing for women to be excluded from science, just noting that bright women in serious science (or any endeavour which uses up a major chunk of childbearing years and/or has a serious effect on fertility) is not an efficient system for any society, if Ricardo is correct.

    I’m not sure it’s a complete coincidence that the UK and US were at the height of their power and influence in days when women in science (or politics) existed, but were exceptions (like Marie Curie or Margaret Sanger).

    Here are the top 32 politicians in China.

    I was reading up (only Wiki alas) on famous lady scientists, and they are indeed a barren bunch, though not in ideas.
    Recent chemistry Nobelist Frances Arnold with three, Marie Curie with two children (and her Nobelist daughter, Marie Joliot-Curie also with two) seem positively teeming when compared with, say, Susan Greenfield or Rosalind Franklin (who I hadn’t realised was Jewish).

  210. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Your comment makes no sense. .... [blah, blah, blah straw man nonsense] ... 3 people who will qualify. ...
     
    Yawn. Jack it makes perfect sense.

    It's A) a nod to libertarianism--i'm not interested in denying people with different opinions the right to live as they wish as well. (Especially as we no longer consensus on the basics.)

    While B) insisting that normal productive Americans who actually make the society function have a right to a society with their norms.

    This is not remotely complicated or nonsensical.

    And far from "3 people", there are probably about a 100 million Americans are who are just fine with traditional American norms. Including borders, crimes, drugs, sexual dimorphism, homosexuals, trannies, etc. There are certainly tens of millions. Sure, they aren't on the separationist train yet--duh.

    But at least i'm offering some sort of actual solution to our predicament. Basically my problem/solution boils down to:
    -- America no longer has coherent common norms that are the basis for a functioning society, much less a civilized "nation"
    -- let's separate

    As far as i can tell your solution is ... American ought to be organized so that life is very good for Jewish lawyers and the uppity goyim don't cause any trouble ... but let's not get carried away, we need keep the blacks in line too.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

    I just don’t know how your paradise will come to exist or how it will work.

    Where will it be located and how will the “normal” people seize this territory? Will there be an “exchange of population” like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    Now let’s say that your New USA has been created and you are a fine upstanding citizen thereof, like all other NUSA citizens. But what happens if one of your kids develops a drug problem or decides that he his gay? What if YOU, late in life, decide that you look better in a dress? What if you child meets a Japanese girl on a trip and wants to marry her? Do you have to sell your business and your home and leave NUSA and move to Evil Land? What if Evil Land won’t take you?

    I really just don’t understand how your imaginary republic is going to work. I realize that you mean it as a rhetorical device (“why won’t all the weird people just leave us normal white Christian people alone?”) but it’s a dumb one IMHO because I don’t think there is any practical way to get there from here and even if there was it would not be a permanent solution because “goodness” as you define it is not a permanent irreversible condition. You of all people, as a Christian believer, should understand that we are all sinners.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Travis
    @Jack D

    Whites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc. Such a state could exist within the United States as a sort of refuge for whites as the rest of the nation becomes less and less white. Even today Maine is practically a separate nation within the US. The best option for whites who seek to live separated from non-whites is the current state of Maine. No need to "seize" territory, whites can currently move to Maine, buy land in Maine and elect like minded fellow whites to run the state and run the schools. All the benefits of a separate nation can be achieved by moving to Maine.

    There are very few white nationalists families in America, But if they chose to relocate to Maine and had large families the state could continue as a white state within the US could become a Whitopia with a growing population of like-minded whites . No need to expel any Blacks or other undesirables from the state, since so few Blacks live there today. Already living in Maine has most the benefits of a white ethno-state, since you can live your life without having to deal with any Blacks and your kids will attend schools which are 99% white and even the State Universities are 95% white and thus your kids will have all white friends and white spouses and white children.

    Replies: @epebble, @Truth

    , @Pixo
    @Jack D

    AD’s whiteopia sounds pretty good to me. However, it would need to be a dictatorship, because democratic white places all support non-white migration and increasingly homosexuality.

    There are some small exceptions like Hungary, Slovakia, Israel, Croatia and kind of Poland, Greece, Slovenia, and Czechia.

    But we’re mostly Germanic whites here in the USA, and there are no exceptions in our spheres.

    Moreover, my list above are peoples that know oppression and domination by larger groups. We Americans have been winning so long, we feel we can be reckless and impulsive and maudlin.

    I think xenophilia may be genetic character of Germanics that partly led to their great success.

    In early Roman times, the Alans were in the Caucuses and were a north Iranian people with an Iranian language, probably similar looking to Armenians, Kurds, and lighter Persians. By late Roman times, they had become one of the major tribes of Germania. The Germans welcomed these swarthy invaders and assimilated them over a few hundred years. The Alans who stayed behind became today’s Ossetians and still are Armenian looking, but here’s how the Romans described them around 380AD:

    “ Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.”

    In other words, from about 150AD to 380AD, they so fully intermarried with their German neighbors they were blond and tall. But they still remained a distinct tribe.

    , @rebel yell
    @Jack D


    I really just don’t understand how your imaginary republic is going to work.
     
    Well, most of it should be easy:
    1. Enforce the law and punish criminals. Societies have done that for centuries. Israel does that today. You really can't imagine how that would work?
    2. Enforce borders and don't allow illegal immigration. Again, lots of countries have done this and still do, including Israel. Not hard
    3. Gays and lesbians stay out of sight and transgender boys don't swim with the girls. Again, not hard for a Republic to enforce, we were doing it just fine up through the Eisenhower administration. Do Israeli transgender boys swim on the girls' team, or do Israelis enforce social norms?
    4. Your son marries a Japanese? Fine, so what? A Republic doesn't require racial purity tests. It only requires a majority population, with limited immigration, and minorities expected to assimilate. Again, the US circa 1955 was doing this and they were not doing the impossible.
    Also not hard to bar or seriously curtail immigration from Africa - I believe Israel is doing that even as we speak.

    Where will it be located and how will the “normal” people seize this territory? Will there be an “exchange of population” like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.
     
    True, but not a deal breaker. Again, Israel offers a constructive model.

    Replies: @epebble

  211. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Spell check creates its own words. For instance, when I type women spell check types womenswear. I’m sick of correcting spell check. However it’s done, a woman or her fertile egg can’t create a cycoblast zygote embryo or baby alone. Takes male involvement, either personally or plastically

    And whadabout the millions of 25 to 50 year old men in America who’ve never married or had children and never will?

    Solution to the imaginary fertility crisis the childless Men Of UNZ are so concerned about is:

    Zero immigration for the next hundred years.
    Ruthless expulsion of all immigrants and their anchor babies currently in America
    Strong private sector labor unions
    Living family wages
    Cheaper housing property taxes utilities and auto expenses.

    Whatever. As you know I despise these Men Of UNZ constantly blathering about a fertility crisis when the USA population increased every year. Want more kids in America???? Have some instead of posting about women you don’t know and will never meet. Yet Another Anon was so ignorant about the woman he wrote the comment about he claimed she’s childless. But she is married, has a child and is young enough to have another.

    Replies: @epebble, @jejej

    Zero immigration is not correct, ye Olde Krusty.

    Zero MALE immigration is correct.

    Traditionally, conquering Moab, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan would result in the massive “salvation” of their young fertile women.

    As each and every one of your comments indicate, your talons have become an annoyance and your voice need not be heard throughout the land.

    Lacking the legality of hearing criticism, as well as of having anything to do in your day you just get more and more shrill.

    The importation of 20 million desperate and well behaved foreign women each year would be a bounty for us and our posterity.

    We would of course supply you with a bucket of sand to pound in the shielded comfort of your own boudoir.

    And who knows? Maybe you’d emerge better behaved at the end of it.

    Man of Unz

  212. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m pretty sure it was Adam Smith, not David Ricardo; who wrote an entire chapter discussing Portuguese wine and port vs English cloth. And completely ignoring the fact that most of the wine consumed in England at the time came from nearby France.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    England was continually at war with France which made French wine difficult to obtain. The English developed a taste for Spanish sherry and Portuguese port for this reason.

  213. the new normal
    100,000 Annual Drug Overdose Deaths in the U.S. The use of illicit drugs in the U.S. increased from 20 million people in 2007 to to 37 million in 2020.

    Also notable that 30% of white women are on some type of psych drug. More that a quarter of American women (26%) take such drugs — including antidepressants, anti-anxiolytics, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) drugs, and atypical antipsychotics. That compares with 15% of men.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Travis

    30% of white women are on some type of psych drug

    That is interesting; Where did you find that?

  214. in addition, meth in the US is more dangerous now than it was 10 years ago, because the meth formula changed in response to law enforcement efforts, and now mexico churns out a version of meth that quickly causes violent behavior in regular users whereas the previous versions of meth didn’t make addicted users nearly as violent on average.

    the mostly effective crackdown on ephedrine precursor chemicals (you can’t even ship large batches of legal chemicals to mexico anymore) means that drug labs have switched to P2P methamphetamine production.

  215. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I just don't know how your paradise will come to exist or how it will work.

    Where will it be located and how will the "normal" people seize this territory? Will there be an "exchange of population" like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    Now let's say that your New USA has been created and you are a fine upstanding citizen thereof, like all other NUSA citizens. But what happens if one of your kids develops a drug problem or decides that he his gay? What if YOU, late in life, decide that you look better in a dress? What if you child meets a Japanese girl on a trip and wants to marry her? Do you have to sell your business and your home and leave NUSA and move to Evil Land? What if Evil Land won't take you?

    I really just don't understand how your imaginary republic is going to work. I realize that you mean it as a rhetorical device ("why won't all the weird people just leave us normal white Christian people alone?") but it's a dumb one IMHO because I don't think there is any practical way to get there from here and even if there was it would not be a permanent solution because "goodness" as you define it is not a permanent irreversible condition. You of all people, as a Christian believer, should understand that we are all sinners.

    Replies: @Travis, @Pixo, @rebel yell

    Whites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc. Such a state could exist within the United States as a sort of refuge for whites as the rest of the nation becomes less and less white. Even today Maine is practically a separate nation within the US. The best option for whites who seek to live separated from non-whites is the current state of Maine. No need to “seize” territory, whites can currently move to Maine, buy land in Maine and elect like minded fellow whites to run the state and run the schools. All the benefits of a separate nation can be achieved by moving to Maine.

    There are very few white nationalists families in America, But if they chose to relocate to Maine and had large families the state could continue as a white state within the US could become a Whitopia with a growing population of like-minded whites . No need to expel any Blacks or other undesirables from the state, since so few Blacks live there today. Already living in Maine has most the benefits of a white ethno-state, since you can live your life without having to deal with any Blacks and your kids will attend schools which are 99% white and even the State Universities are 95% white and thus your kids will have all white friends and white spouses and white children.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Travis

    If someone wants a different state, there are other options, besides Maine:

    Vermont 95%
    New Hampshire 95%
    West Virginia 94%
    Idaho 94%
    Iowa 91%
    Wyoming 91%

    If, on the other hand, the Objective is to minimize the % of African-Americans, one can also select:

    Montana < 1%
    Utah 1%

    Replies: @Travis

    , @Truth
    @Travis


    hites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc.
     
    Well, the movement by these WN couples has actually been, for years now, to move to the 2nd blackest state in the union.

    Tough WN homesteaders don't like cold tozies more than anyone else...

    https://www.religionnewsblog.com/11870/christian-exodus-asks-conservatives-to-relocate-to-south-carolina

    https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-21-christian-movement_x.htm
  216. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Your comment makes no sense. .... [blah, blah, blah straw man nonsense] ... 3 people who will qualify. ...
     
    Yawn. Jack it makes perfect sense.

    It's A) a nod to libertarianism--i'm not interested in denying people with different opinions the right to live as they wish as well. (Especially as we no longer consensus on the basics.)

    While B) insisting that normal productive Americans who actually make the society function have a right to a society with their norms.

    This is not remotely complicated or nonsensical.

    And far from "3 people", there are probably about a 100 million Americans are who are just fine with traditional American norms. Including borders, crimes, drugs, sexual dimorphism, homosexuals, trannies, etc. There are certainly tens of millions. Sure, they aren't on the separationist train yet--duh.

    But at least i'm offering some sort of actual solution to our predicament. Basically my problem/solution boils down to:
    -- America no longer has coherent common norms that are the basis for a functioning society, much less a civilized "nation"
    -- let's separate

    As far as i can tell your solution is ... American ought to be organized so that life is very good for Jewish lawyers and the uppity goyim don't cause any trouble ... but let's not get carried away, we need keep the blacks in line too.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon

    Commenter Jack D has deconstructed your goy-republic. It will never work. But Israel – that will work out just fine. It’s different somehow.

  217. @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666


    a lot of the unvaxxed (especially in the hyper-vaxxed U.K.) were too sick to be vaxed
     
    I would think the opposite. How can you be "too sick" to get vaxxed? They especially vaxed all the people in nursing homes, etc.

    If I had to guess, the vaxxed consist of the most careful people, who took care to stay home and not expose themselves to other infectious diseases and to wear masks, while the unvaxxed went about their business. The vax itself didn't cut their death rate from non-Covid diseases but being vaxxed was part of a package of lifestyle changes that did. The unvaxxed, in addition to not getting vaxxed, made no such changes (or only the minimum that they could get away with) and so their death rate from other causes did not fall.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Redneck farmer, @Hypnotoad666

    How can you be “too sick” to get vaxxed?

    People in nursing homes who couldn’t stand the reaction, or whose immune systems were too weak to produce any antibody response, anyway. The 5% of unvaxxed Britons included these people.

  218. Pixo says:
    @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I just don't know how your paradise will come to exist or how it will work.

    Where will it be located and how will the "normal" people seize this territory? Will there be an "exchange of population" like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    Now let's say that your New USA has been created and you are a fine upstanding citizen thereof, like all other NUSA citizens. But what happens if one of your kids develops a drug problem or decides that he his gay? What if YOU, late in life, decide that you look better in a dress? What if you child meets a Japanese girl on a trip and wants to marry her? Do you have to sell your business and your home and leave NUSA and move to Evil Land? What if Evil Land won't take you?

    I really just don't understand how your imaginary republic is going to work. I realize that you mean it as a rhetorical device ("why won't all the weird people just leave us normal white Christian people alone?") but it's a dumb one IMHO because I don't think there is any practical way to get there from here and even if there was it would not be a permanent solution because "goodness" as you define it is not a permanent irreversible condition. You of all people, as a Christian believer, should understand that we are all sinners.

    Replies: @Travis, @Pixo, @rebel yell

    AD’s whiteopia sounds pretty good to me. However, it would need to be a dictatorship, because democratic white places all support non-white migration and increasingly homosexuality.

    There are some small exceptions like Hungary, Slovakia, Israel, Croatia and kind of Poland, Greece, Slovenia, and Czechia.

    But we’re mostly Germanic whites here in the USA, and there are no exceptions in our spheres.

    Moreover, my list above are peoples that know oppression and domination by larger groups. We Americans have been winning so long, we feel we can be reckless and impulsive and maudlin.

    I think xenophilia may be genetic character of Germanics that partly led to their great success.

    In early Roman times, the Alans were in the Caucuses and were a north Iranian people with an Iranian language, probably similar looking to Armenians, Kurds, and lighter Persians. By late Roman times, they had become one of the major tribes of Germania. The Germans welcomed these swarthy invaders and assimilated them over a few hundred years. The Alans who stayed behind became today’s Ossetians and still are Armenian looking, but here’s how the Romans described them around 380AD:

    “ Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.”

    In other words, from about 150AD to 380AD, they so fully intermarried with their German neighbors they were blond and tall. But they still remained a distinct tribe.

  219. @Travis
    @Jack D

    Whites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc. Such a state could exist within the United States as a sort of refuge for whites as the rest of the nation becomes less and less white. Even today Maine is practically a separate nation within the US. The best option for whites who seek to live separated from non-whites is the current state of Maine. No need to "seize" territory, whites can currently move to Maine, buy land in Maine and elect like minded fellow whites to run the state and run the schools. All the benefits of a separate nation can be achieved by moving to Maine.

    There are very few white nationalists families in America, But if they chose to relocate to Maine and had large families the state could continue as a white state within the US could become a Whitopia with a growing population of like-minded whites . No need to expel any Blacks or other undesirables from the state, since so few Blacks live there today. Already living in Maine has most the benefits of a white ethno-state, since you can live your life without having to deal with any Blacks and your kids will attend schools which are 99% white and even the State Universities are 95% white and thus your kids will have all white friends and white spouses and white children.

    Replies: @epebble, @Truth

    If someone wants a different state, there are other options, besides Maine:

    Vermont 95%
    New Hampshire 95%
    West Virginia 94%
    Idaho 94%
    Iowa 91%
    Wyoming 91%

    If, on the other hand, the Objective is to minimize the % of African-Americans, one can also select:

    Montana < 1%
    Utah 1%

    • Replies: @Travis
    @epebble

    If White nationalists seek to have a white state the best option is Maine
    Vermont and New Hampshire have too many progressives which would make it more difficult for white nationalists to dominate the state politically.

    Maine has other advantages, such as a large coast and it only borders one state, so easier to keep out infiltrators if they ever become a separate nation. Maine has twice the landmass of Vermont and New Hampshire combined. Vermont shares a border with NY and CT so these larger states and their people will meddle in the affairs of Vermont. Maine far enough from NY and thus out of their direct influence.

    West Virginia is white enough but is surrounded by Liberal states with large Black populations. Maine only borders one state, New Hampshire, which is also 94% white. Maine offers more potential with a large coast an international port and a border with Canada. West Virginians have too many problems with drugs and poor schools and hillbilly culture which would make it difficult for newcomers to gain political power and influence the politics of the state...

    Iowa is just 88% white today and has 9 times the number of Blacks compared to Maine. Iowa is landlocked, dependent on government subsidies for their income with surrounded by states which are more diverse. Iowa has no potential to be a separate nation, most of the population lives off the federal government and the state would collapse in economic ruin without federal funds..

    Idaho and Wyoming are both about 82% white today and 14% Hispanic...with no coast and no ports and no future possibility of being a separate nation.

    If you are going to count Hispanics as white you could just move to Mexico to live in a white ethno-State with no Blacks.

  220. @Travis
    the new normal
    100,000 Annual Drug Overdose Deaths in the U.S. The use of illicit drugs in the U.S. increased from 20 million people in 2007 to to 37 million in 2020.

    Also notable that 30% of white women are on some type of psych drug. More that a quarter of American women (26%) take such drugs -- including antidepressants, anti-anxiolytics, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) drugs, and atypical antipsychotics. That compares with 15% of men.

    Replies: @epebble

    30% of white women are on some type of psych drug

    That is interesting; Where did you find that?

  221. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Corvinus


    You mean potentially could have ended in his death.
     
    No, I mean any attempt to arrest him would have rendered him in a body position which would have been a "contributing factor" in his death.

    All Chauvin had to do was simply ask for help from the other officers on the scene to drag Floyd into a squad car and haul him off to jail. He may or may not have died. But the cop clearly was in the wrong.
     
    You can't be this ignorant. Chauvin was one of the second pair of officers to respond to the scene who where called to assist because the first pair couldn't get Floyd into the car due to his resistance. The police called for an ambulance which was en route when Floyd died, and they were all but certainly going to assist to get Floyd into the ambulance and to the emergency room rather than into the patrol car at that point. They were concerned that Floyd was in a state of drug induced excited delirium and subdued him to calm him down and so that he didn't injure himself.

    The fact is that you people decided that Chauvin choked Floyd to death with his knee, you made that the viral 24/7 narrative for political effect, and you had Chauvin and the three others charged for political purposes by a partisan, radical AG. You made certain that Chauvin became the "face of white supremacy" and that there was no chance that he could ever get a fair trial. And you threw him into the volcano to sate the mob that you stoked throughout the summer and fall for political purposes. Now, of course, your clients are shooting one another and committing other serious crimes at record rates and you're in search of lead paint chips to distract from what you did.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “No, I mean any attempt to arrest him would have rendered him in a body position which would have been a “contributing factor” in his death.”

    You’re only speculating here.

    “They were concerned that Floyd was in a state of drug induced excited delirium and subdued him to calm him down and so that he didn’t injure himself.”

    Subdue him by having several officers wrestle him to the ground, cuff him, and put him in the back of the police vehicle.

    “The fact is that you people decided that Chauvin choked Floyd to death with his knee…”

    Chauvin made that decision to use a police maneuver longer than it needed to be implemented. The cops were waiting around.

  222. @Rob
    Here’s an interesting recreational drug puzzle. Methamphetamine comes in two isomers — 3d arrangements of atoms in space — dextrorotary (”right-handed”) and levorotary (”left-handed”). The left-handed version doesn’t get anyone (very) high. It’s in a legal prescription.
    Check out https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/

    Summary. The old way of making meth from pseudoephedrine made pure d meth. Today, ~80% of the meth the government seized in 2018 is made from P2P (first graph). P2P meth is racemic, so half the precursors (and weight) are wasted. But, most of the meth seized is pure d enantiomer. Eyeballing the next chart shows that the interdicted meth is 95% pure.

    What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction? Do they have some natural stereospecific reagent that either binds the pre-reduction intermediate so only one conformation is possible in the reaction? Do they have something that precipitates one version or the other?

    Fentanyl’s not the only drug in the world, ya know.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve Sailer, @ic1000, @Zero Philosopher

    The pseudonymous Substack essayist you link, Dynomight, is very good.

    The first paragraph of his linked post on meth synthesis provides links to Sam Quinones’ work. That includes his excellent (and thus terrible) November 2021 Atlantic article on the rise of meth over the past decade, and its connections to all sorts of social ills.

    I’d long given up on that shell of a magazine for its low S/N ratio, but some worthwhile writers seem to find an outlet under the Widow Jobs.

    In his response to your comment, Steve linked his Taki’s review of Quinones’ follow-on book to Dreamland, a terrific read that’s also worth a shout-out: From Dreamland to Nightmareland.

    • Thanks: Rob
  223. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Oh dear, probably best not to engage with the vax truthers.

    But I would be remiss if I failed to note that vaccinated Americans have drastically lower all-cause mortality than the unvaccinated.

    The link is to a study with an 11-million person sample, and notes prior smaller studies show the same result.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    Same result in the UK: the vaccinated have both drastically lower covid deaths, but surprisingly also drastically lower non-covid deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/allcausedeathsbyvaccinationstatusintheunitedkingdom

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    As noted above, a better download link (PDF) is: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

    It seems this “report” relies on the tried-and-tested expedient of fudging the DATE of vaccination to adjust the classification of vaccinated and non-vaccinated subjects, as suggested by this footnote:

    … In each VSD site [i.e. participating institution], age group, and sex stratum, the distribution of vaccination dates of dose 1 were obtained and used to assign index dates to all persons. [Emphasis added.]

    Earlier publications by CDC and others often treated a person as “unvaccinated” for two weeks after an initial vaccination, and thus attributed any adverse symptoms including death to a COVID infection, rather than to the vaccination. It could be that this is what happened here, as suggested by the phrase “distribution of vaccination dates.” Why not categorize each subject’s data based on that subject’s actual “vaccination date”?

    In fact, the report authors helpfully confirm that:

    This work was reviewed by CDC and VSD sites§§ and was conducted consistent with applicable federal law and CDC policy.

    Which precise CDC “policies” were followed? Are all pertinent policies publicly documented?

  224. @Aeronerauk
    @Corvinus

    The restraint is only lethal if you've ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention. In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone's shoulder blade is not a "lethal restraint."

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The restraint is only lethal if you’ve ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention.”

    Which results in prosecution.

    “In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone’s shoulder blade is not a “lethal restraint”.

    It is for over 9 minutes by kneeling on someone’s neck.

    https://apnews.com/article/trials-derek-chauvin-minneapolis-racial-injustice-060f6e9e8b7079505a1b096a68311c2b

    Lt. Johnny Mercil, who has been in charge of teaching the use of force in the Minneapolis Police Department’s training division, says former officer Derek Chauvin’s use of his knee on George Floyd’s neck is not a technique the police teach when instructing officers how to restrain people.

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Corvinus

    No, that is simply incorrect. The Lt. is objecting to Chauvin's technique, which I imagine may not be how it is taught in the department's DT course.

    Again, kneeling on someone in that position is not going to kill them. If we were face to face, I would happily allow you to do the same to me. We could watch a couple Chappelle's Show skits on my smartphone while you kneel and I lie prone.

    Nothing will happen to me because, again Corvy, I did not ingest any fentanyl.

    If your argument is that Chauvin was careless and should be prosecuted for negligence, I mean sure technically that's true. But murder? The guy is a political prisoner.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  225. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    It has been logically demonstrated that the police maneuver used on Floyd was a contriving factor to his death. Mr. Sailer willfully left out this important detail because he has to keep up with his tin cup narrative. It’s called pandering. Do keep up.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘It has been logically demonstrated that the police maneuver used on Floyd was a contriving factor to his death. Mr. Sailer willfully left out this important detail because he has to keep up with his tin cup narrative. It’s called pandering. Do keep up.’

    You’ve just added abusing the English language to your sins.

    • LOL: ic1000
  226. @Travis
    @Jack D

    Whites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc. Such a state could exist within the United States as a sort of refuge for whites as the rest of the nation becomes less and less white. Even today Maine is practically a separate nation within the US. The best option for whites who seek to live separated from non-whites is the current state of Maine. No need to "seize" territory, whites can currently move to Maine, buy land in Maine and elect like minded fellow whites to run the state and run the schools. All the benefits of a separate nation can be achieved by moving to Maine.

    There are very few white nationalists families in America, But if they chose to relocate to Maine and had large families the state could continue as a white state within the US could become a Whitopia with a growing population of like-minded whites . No need to expel any Blacks or other undesirables from the state, since so few Blacks live there today. Already living in Maine has most the benefits of a white ethno-state, since you can live your life without having to deal with any Blacks and your kids will attend schools which are 99% white and even the State Universities are 95% white and thus your kids will have all white friends and white spouses and white children.

    Replies: @epebble, @Truth

    hites already have a couple of options if they want to live separate from Non-Whites. One option is to move to Maine which is just 1% Black and 95% white. Maine only has 1.3 million people. If 50,000 white nationalist married couples with children moved to Maine they could change the culture of Maine and take control of the state government, school boards etc.

    Well, the movement by these WN couples has actually been, for years now, to move to the 2nd blackest state in the union.

    Tough WN homesteaders don’t like cold tozies more than anyone else…

    https://www.religionnewsblog.com/11870/christian-exodus-asks-conservatives-to-relocate-to-south-carolina

    https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-21-christian-movement_x.htm

  227. @HA
    @for-the-record

    "Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave"

    This is all old news. According to an Oxford study (check out the lead statistician's tweets here), the only group for which myocarditis risk from vaccines seemed greater than that from COVID was the under-40 male bracket. For the rest, it wasn't generally 100 times greater (though it might have been for some cohorts) but hyperbole aside, what Jack D said about COVID-related myocarditis being significantly greater than vaccine-related myocarditis is correct.

    And even for the under-40 males, there's good reason to be not surprised why larger studies didn't back up the Oxford study. The Oxford statisticians themselves admitted, given myocarditis is so rare among young people (with or without the vaccine), that their results were a first pass, and really needed to be pooled with other such studies. And when that was done, the overall numbers didn't show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I'm guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children. (The Moderna jab was particularly problematic in the Oxford study when it came to young males, if I recall correctly.)

    Moreover, the young people that got in line first for the COVID shots tended to be young people with diabetes and asthma, which means that their results simply don't generalize to the rest of the population. (A similar effect is present in the case of flu -- it turns out kids who take a regular flu vaccine are 3x more likely to go to the hospital with flu than other kids, and for a while the anti-vaxxers were having a field day with that one. But a subsequent study verified the initial suspicion that those kids tended to be asthmatic and otherwise breathing-impaired, and even though they were indeed three times as likely to wind up in the hospital, they would have been in even worse shape without the flu vaccine.)

    Those interested in the studies can find the links in this thread.

    As for young athletes, again, there's no evidence that vaccines are more to blame than COVID itself, which was early on recognized as a major clot former, and even mild cases can measurably elevate your heart attack risk for months afterwards. In the case of soccer players, there was a freak outlier of myocarditis deaths in Dec 2021, but that came and went so it's hard to pin anything definitive on it. Any data-mining exercize with data as ragged as myocarditis deaths is likely to turn up some eye-popping stuff.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    And when that was done, the overall numbers didn’t show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I’m guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children.

    “Despite a massive media and government pressure campaign, American parents are overwhelmingly rejecting Covid vaccines for their young children.

    About one week after the shots became available, barely 1 percent of children under 5 have received mRNA jabs for Covid, data from several states show.”

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/covid-shots-for-little-kids-are-doa

    This is just part of a bigger story, the bigger story being the collapse in demand for the vaccines. The vaccine propagandists have failed. This is in spite of attempts to have the government use coercion. These attempts at coercion actually backfired, something the vaccine proponents failed to consider as a possibility. If the government tries to suppress information critical of the vaccines, that will lead people to think they are trying to hide something. If the government tries to block alternative treatments, that will make people think the government is trying to eliminate competition from something that is better than the vaccines. If the government tries to mandate vaccines, people will wonder if these vaccines are so wonderful then why do they need to force people to get them?

    There has always been a common belief in this country that there is no group of people who are smarter than everyone else and therefore has a right to order others what to do. This includes government health agencies subject to regulatory capture by big pharma and the medical cartel. Everyone is equal. Since everyone is equal, everyone has a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This includes the right to pick what medical treatments to use and the right of doctors to pick what medical treatments to offer.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Mark G.


    This includes the right to pick what medical treatments to use and the right of doctors to pick what medical treatments to offer.
     
    I take it you are pro-choice?
  228. @Bill Jones
    @Mark in BC

    You do realize that alcohol consumption rose during prohibition, don't you?

    https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure#

    Here's an interesting compilation
    https://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm


    I like this line.


    I have been told that before prohibition we had a saloon at every corner; since prohibition we have a distillery in practically every home.
     

    Replies: @Mark in BC

    Sorry I didn’t make my sarcasm more clear. To be clear, the Pure Food & Drug Act along with the Harrison Narcotics Act, need to be repealed. The idea of GovCo “controlling” drugs is ludicrous as well as un-Constitutional.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Mark in BC

    The sorrow is mine.
    I shall take my sarcasm detector for a tune-up.

  229. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    You must have missed out on middle school sex education. Not have you ever had a girl friend wife or children in your life.

    Women, or actually the fertile eggs women produce every month do not spontaneously become cycoblasts zygotes embryos babies human beings.

    The fertile eggs cannot create or conceive a baby on their own. This only happens when a male sperm penetrates the fertile egg. The sperm doesn’t need to be personally injected by a man. It can be injected at home with a turkey blaster by the prospective Mom or at a fertility clinic by a technician.

    So before your next woman hating screed familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction

    You’ve never heard of regression to the mean have you? It means that the children and grandchildren of unusually intelligent, tall, short, stupid, ugly beautiful blonde whatever parents often regress back to normal.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia arranged hundreds of marriages between 6’3 men and 5’9 women in an effort to create a cohort of very tall soldiers. Didn’t work. Some kids were a bit taller than the parents. Some kids were a bit shorter than the parents. Some were same height as the parents.

    Before pontificating about the fertility of women you don’t know and will ever meet; familiarize yourself with the basic facts of human reproduction. It requires a man and a woman or a sperm and an egg.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ralph L, @Truth

    Big Aldey took a little vacation, came back Dropping Bombs on the M.O.U’z!

    • LOL: Kylie
  230. @epebble
    @Travis

    If someone wants a different state, there are other options, besides Maine:

    Vermont 95%
    New Hampshire 95%
    West Virginia 94%
    Idaho 94%
    Iowa 91%
    Wyoming 91%

    If, on the other hand, the Objective is to minimize the % of African-Americans, one can also select:

    Montana < 1%
    Utah 1%

    Replies: @Travis

    If White nationalists seek to have a white state the best option is Maine
    Vermont and New Hampshire have too many progressives which would make it more difficult for white nationalists to dominate the state politically.

    Maine has other advantages, such as a large coast and it only borders one state, so easier to keep out infiltrators if they ever become a separate nation. Maine has twice the landmass of Vermont and New Hampshire combined. Vermont shares a border with NY and CT so these larger states and their people will meddle in the affairs of Vermont. Maine far enough from NY and thus out of their direct influence.

    West Virginia is white enough but is surrounded by Liberal states with large Black populations. Maine only borders one state, New Hampshire, which is also 94% white. Maine offers more potential with a large coast an international port and a border with Canada. West Virginians have too many problems with drugs and poor schools and hillbilly culture which would make it difficult for newcomers to gain political power and influence the politics of the state…

    Iowa is just 88% white today and has 9 times the number of Blacks compared to Maine. Iowa is landlocked, dependent on government subsidies for their income with surrounded by states which are more diverse. Iowa has no potential to be a separate nation, most of the population lives off the federal government and the state would collapse in economic ruin without federal funds..

    Idaho and Wyoming are both about 82% white today and 14% Hispanic…with no coast and no ports and no future possibility of being a separate nation.

    If you are going to count Hispanics as white you could just move to Mexico to live in a white ethno-State with no Blacks.

  231. @Corvinus
    @Aeronerauk

    “The restraint is only lethal if you’ve ingested fentanyl and require immediate medical intervention."

    Which results in prosecution.

    “In a vacuum, no, kneeling on someone’s shoulder blade is not a “lethal restraint”.

    It is for over 9 minutes by kneeling on someone’s neck.

    https://apnews.com/article/trials-derek-chauvin-minneapolis-racial-injustice-060f6e9e8b7079505a1b096a68311c2b

    Lt. Johnny Mercil, who has been in charge of teaching the use of force in the Minneapolis Police Department's training division, says former officer Derek Chauvin's use of his knee on George Floyd's neck is not a technique the police teach when instructing officers how to restrain people.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

    No, that is simply incorrect. The Lt. is objecting to Chauvin’s technique, which I imagine may not be how it is taught in the department’s DT course.

    Again, kneeling on someone in that position is not going to kill them. If we were face to face, I would happily allow you to do the same to me. We could watch a couple Chappelle’s Show skits on my smartphone while you kneel and I lie prone.

    Nothing will happen to me because, again Corvy, I did not ingest any fentanyl.

    If your argument is that Chauvin was careless and should be prosecuted for negligence, I mean sure technically that’s true. But murder? The guy is a political prisoner.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Aeronerauk

    “Again, kneeling on someone in that position is not going to kill them. If we were face to face, I would happily allow you to do the same to me. We could watch a couple Chappelle’s Show skits on my smartphone while you kneel and I lie prone.”

    You are being an asshat here.

    —Once the person is cuffed, the threat level goes down all the way,” the lieutenant told jurors at Chauvin’s murder trial. “How can that person hurt you?” he asked, adding that “you getting injured is way down.” Keeping the person handcuffed and in a prone position “restricts their breathing,” he said. Asked by prosecutor Matthew Frank if he was ever trained to kneel on a person, Zimmerman said no. “Because if your knee is on someone’s neck — that could kill them,” the lieutenant said.—

    Look at the Minnesota law. It's was second degree unintentional murder. To prove this count, prosecutors had to show that Chauvin killed Floyd while committing or trying to commit a felony — in this case, third-degree assault. They didn't have to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd, only that he intended to apply unlawful force that caused bodily harm. Prosecutors called several medical experts who testified that Floyd died from a lack of oxygen because of the way he was restrained. A use of force expert also said it was unreasonable to hold Floyd in the prone position for 9 minutes, 29 seconds, handcuffed and face-down. So, yes, a person can die simply from that maneuver.

  232. @Mark in BC
    @Bill Jones

    Sorry I didn't make my sarcasm more clear. To be clear, the Pure Food & Drug Act along with the Harrison Narcotics Act, need to be repealed. The idea of GovCo "controlling" drugs is ludicrous as well as un-Constitutional.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    The sorrow is mine.
    I shall take my sarcasm detector for a tune-up.

  233. @Aeronerauk
    @Corvinus

    No, that is simply incorrect. The Lt. is objecting to Chauvin's technique, which I imagine may not be how it is taught in the department's DT course.

    Again, kneeling on someone in that position is not going to kill them. If we were face to face, I would happily allow you to do the same to me. We could watch a couple Chappelle's Show skits on my smartphone while you kneel and I lie prone.

    Nothing will happen to me because, again Corvy, I did not ingest any fentanyl.

    If your argument is that Chauvin was careless and should be prosecuted for negligence, I mean sure technically that's true. But murder? The guy is a political prisoner.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Again, kneeling on someone in that position is not going to kill them. If we were face to face, I would happily allow you to do the same to me. We could watch a couple Chappelle’s Show skits on my smartphone while you kneel and I lie prone.”

    You are being an asshat here.

    —Once the person is cuffed, the threat level goes down all the way,” the lieutenant told jurors at Chauvin’s murder trial. “How can that person hurt you?” he asked, adding that “you getting injured is way down.” Keeping the person handcuffed and in a prone position “restricts their breathing,” he said. Asked by prosecutor Matthew Frank if he was ever trained to kneel on a person, Zimmerman said no. “Because if your knee is on someone’s neck — that could kill them,” the lieutenant said.—

    Look at the Minnesota law. It’s was second degree unintentional murder. To prove this count, prosecutors had to show that Chauvin killed Floyd while committing or trying to commit a felony — in this case, third-degree assault. They didn’t have to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd, only that he intended to apply unlawful force that caused bodily harm. Prosecutors called several medical experts who testified that Floyd died from a lack of oxygen because of the way he was restrained. A use of force expert also said it was unreasonable to hold Floyd in the prone position for 9 minutes, 29 seconds, handcuffed and face-down. So, yes, a person can die simply from that maneuver.

  234. @Mark G.
    @HA


    And when that was done, the overall numbers didn’t show the same effect the Oxford study showed, which I’m guessing is why Pfizer and Moderna both got the go-ahead to vaxx children.
     
    "Despite a massive media and government pressure campaign, American parents are overwhelmingly rejecting Covid vaccines for their young children.

    About one week after the shots became available, barely 1 percent of children under 5 have received mRNA jabs for Covid, data from several states show."

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/covid-shots-for-little-kids-are-doa

    This is just part of a bigger story, the bigger story being the collapse in demand for the vaccines. The vaccine propagandists have failed. This is in spite of attempts to have the government use coercion. These attempts at coercion actually backfired, something the vaccine proponents failed to consider as a possibility. If the government tries to suppress information critical of the vaccines, that will lead people to think they are trying to hide something. If the government tries to block alternative treatments, that will make people think the government is trying to eliminate competition from something that is better than the vaccines. If the government tries to mandate vaccines, people will wonder if these vaccines are so wonderful then why do they need to force people to get them?

    There has always been a common belief in this country that there is no group of people who are smarter than everyone else and therefore has a right to order others what to do. This includes government health agencies subject to regulatory capture by big pharma and the medical cartel. Everyone is equal. Since everyone is equal, everyone has a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This includes the right to pick what medical treatments to use and the right of doctors to pick what medical treatments to offer.

    Replies: @Rob

    This includes the right to pick what medical treatments to use and the right of doctors to pick what medical treatments to offer.

    I take it you are pro-choice?

  235. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I just don't know how your paradise will come to exist or how it will work.

    Where will it be located and how will the "normal" people seize this territory? Will there be an "exchange of population" like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    Now let's say that your New USA has been created and you are a fine upstanding citizen thereof, like all other NUSA citizens. But what happens if one of your kids develops a drug problem or decides that he his gay? What if YOU, late in life, decide that you look better in a dress? What if you child meets a Japanese girl on a trip and wants to marry her? Do you have to sell your business and your home and leave NUSA and move to Evil Land? What if Evil Land won't take you?

    I really just don't understand how your imaginary republic is going to work. I realize that you mean it as a rhetorical device ("why won't all the weird people just leave us normal white Christian people alone?") but it's a dumb one IMHO because I don't think there is any practical way to get there from here and even if there was it would not be a permanent solution because "goodness" as you define it is not a permanent irreversible condition. You of all people, as a Christian believer, should understand that we are all sinners.

    Replies: @Travis, @Pixo, @rebel yell

    I really just don’t understand how your imaginary republic is going to work.

    Well, most of it should be easy:
    1. Enforce the law and punish criminals. Societies have done that for centuries. Israel does that today. You really can’t imagine how that would work?
    2. Enforce borders and don’t allow illegal immigration. Again, lots of countries have done this and still do, including Israel. Not hard
    3. Gays and lesbians stay out of sight and transgender boys don’t swim with the girls. Again, not hard for a Republic to enforce, we were doing it just fine up through the Eisenhower administration. Do Israeli transgender boys swim on the girls’ team, or do Israelis enforce social norms?
    4. Your son marries a Japanese? Fine, so what? A Republic doesn’t require racial purity tests. It only requires a majority population, with limited immigration, and minorities expected to assimilate. Again, the US circa 1955 was doing this and they were not doing the impossible.
    Also not hard to bar or seriously curtail immigration from Africa – I believe Israel is doing that even as we speak.

    Where will it be located and how will the “normal” people seize this territory? Will there be an “exchange of population” like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.

    True, but not a deal breaker. Again, Israel offers a constructive model.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @rebel yell

    Gays and lesbians stay out of sight

    How do you propose to do that, absent some seriously intrusive investigation and tagging?

  236. @rebel yell
    @Jack D


    I really just don’t understand how your imaginary republic is going to work.
     
    Well, most of it should be easy:
    1. Enforce the law and punish criminals. Societies have done that for centuries. Israel does that today. You really can't imagine how that would work?
    2. Enforce borders and don't allow illegal immigration. Again, lots of countries have done this and still do, including Israel. Not hard
    3. Gays and lesbians stay out of sight and transgender boys don't swim with the girls. Again, not hard for a Republic to enforce, we were doing it just fine up through the Eisenhower administration. Do Israeli transgender boys swim on the girls' team, or do Israelis enforce social norms?
    4. Your son marries a Japanese? Fine, so what? A Republic doesn't require racial purity tests. It only requires a majority population, with limited immigration, and minorities expected to assimilate. Again, the US circa 1955 was doing this and they were not doing the impossible.
    Also not hard to bar or seriously curtail immigration from Africa - I believe Israel is doing that even as we speak.

    Where will it be located and how will the “normal” people seize this territory? Will there be an “exchange of population” like India/Pakistan and Greece/Turkey ? These tend to be extremely bloody.
     
    True, but not a deal breaker. Again, Israel offers a constructive model.

    Replies: @epebble

    Gays and lesbians stay out of sight

    How do you propose to do that, absent some seriously intrusive investigation and tagging?

  237. JimB says:
    @Jay Fink
    @JimB

    I never knew that about libraries but am not surprised. The clientele at the downtown library in my city is majority drug addicted, mentally ill homeless. Many of these guys talk to themselves very loudly and the librarians never tell them to be quiet (isn't that what they used to be known for?). There is incredible negative energy in that building. It's an old library and I think to myself how civilized it must have been in decades past.

    It's really a shame that Narcan exists. The only chance we have of gaining any of our civility back is to let these addicts die when they OD. It's the natural order of things. Not having so many druggies in the population will make us a more decent and wholesome nation.

    Replies: @JimB

    The only chance we have of gaining any of our civility back is to let these addicts die when they OD.

    Opioid addiction can happen to anyone, including you. Kids often get addicted because it’s cheap and used as a booster by illegal immigrant drug dealers in pot and other recreational drugs that are currently socially sanctioned. Adults get addicted because of third world immigrant doctors handing out scrips for OxyContin to rural whites like candy.

    So basically, flooding the zone with fentanyl and OxyContin is, in fact, a plot to commit white genocide carried out by all the usual suspects for various reasons. I don’t think the great white death is a good way to restore national civility. Do you?

    • Troll: Corvinus
  238. @Dumbo
    @JimB

    Are librarians trained to apply Narcan??

    It's weird to see public libraries in the U.S. having become day-cares for dirty homeless and drug addicts shooting heroin or watching internet porn, and no one doing anything about it.

    In most of Europe they still function as, well, libraries.

    Replies: @Onebelowall

    Ironically, I studied to be a librarian because I was sick of dealing with the stress of teaching.

  239. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Robert Dolan

    Robert, George Floyd gets all the credit for the line, but, believe it or not, 46 years ago, Private Detective Jim Rockford did that whole "I can't breath" act after Val Bisoglio knocked him down with a couple of pistol blows to the back.

    Vic Bisoglio: "OK, bud, start yackin'. I'm in no mood!"

    Jim Rockford: "I can't breath. I'm asthmatic."

    Val Bisoglio: "Yeah, and I'm a Rockette!"

    Val let off his guard to where Jim eventually got the upper hand, after a fist fight, to the point where Val had to drink a bottle of Maalox. They ended up working together, but I don't think Jim got paid yet again ...

    George Floyd deserved to die for copyright infringement alone!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Very late correction: The actor was Simon Oakland. Val was another guy playing one of Rockford’s PI “buddies” on that episode. My apologies.

  240. @Jack D

    there are lots of reports of young male soccer players suddenly dying from what might be myocarditis or other reactions to covid vaccines.
     
    False.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/

    The risk of getting myocarditis from the coronavirus itself is about 100 times higher than getting it from a vaccine.

    Steve saying this is a textbook illustration of the old saw that "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Pixo, @J.Ross, @Kratoklastes, @Mark G., @Pixo, @for-the-record, @Truth, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian Smith, @AnotherDad, @AndrewR

    I don’t care. I’m still not getting your vaccine.

  241. @Rob
    Here’s an interesting recreational drug puzzle. Methamphetamine comes in two isomers — 3d arrangements of atoms in space — dextrorotary (”right-handed”) and levorotary (”left-handed”). The left-handed version doesn’t get anyone (very) high. It’s in a legal prescription.
    Check out https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/

    Summary. The old way of making meth from pseudoephedrine made pure d meth. Today, ~80% of the meth the government seized in 2018 is made from P2P (first graph). P2P meth is racemic, so half the precursors (and weight) are wasted. But, most of the meth seized is pure d enantiomer. Eyeballing the next chart shows that the interdicted meth is 95% pure.

    What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction? Do they have some natural stereospecific reagent that either binds the pre-reduction intermediate so only one conformation is possible in the reaction? Do they have something that precipitates one version or the other?

    Fentanyl’s not the only drug in the world, ya know.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Steve Sailer, @ic1000, @Zero Philosopher

    “What gives? Have clever cartel scientists figured out how to do stereospecific reduction?”

    Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are enantiomers of each other. Both enantiomers have two different isomers. One isomer is levo-rotatory, and the other is dextro-rotatory.

    The pseudoephedrine in cold medcines is the natural isomer or levo-pseudoephedrine. The levo-rotatory isomer of PE, when reduced, gives the dextro-rotatory isomer of methamphetamine because the position of one of the Hydrogen atoms in dextro-methamphetamine is the same as in levo-pseudoephedrine.

    In Nature, many molecules exhibit chirality. For instance, most amino acids that make up living cells are levo-rotatory. Conversely, dextrose, the most ubiquitous fuel found naturally, is dextro-rotatory.(d-dextrose).

    Myself: PhD biochemist(but I work with electro-plating for financial reasons).

  242. What killed Carrie Fisher? Didn’t she die mysteriously on a plan from some pills? Prince died from bad pills, Tom Petty is rumored to as well. Will this cut down on drugs in Hollywood? Or do those celebrities still have access to unadulterated poisons?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sebastian Hawks

    Prince and Petty both had hip pain problems (I saw them jump off a lot of risers) and took a lot of pain pills, which eventually killed them in overdoses, much like a lot of blue collar guys with bad backs from lifting stuff on the job.

  243. @Sebastian Hawks
    What killed Carrie Fisher? Didn't she die mysteriously on a plan from some pills? Prince died from bad pills, Tom Petty is rumored to as well. Will this cut down on drugs in Hollywood? Or do those celebrities still have access to unadulterated poisons?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Prince and Petty both had hip pain problems (I saw them jump off a lot of risers) and took a lot of pain pills, which eventually killed them in overdoses, much like a lot of blue collar guys with bad backs from lifting stuff on the job.

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