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The New York Times can be an extremely informative news source, but often only if you have the time and reading speed to read deep into the articles where the important facts are sequestered. For example, from today’s New York Times:

She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime
By ADAM NOSSITER MARCH 26, 2018

Who dunnit? A Trump voter? A Viking neo-Nazi? Putin? Orban? Henry Harpending?

PARIS — An 85-year-old woman who as a child narrowly escaped France’s most notorious wartime roundup of Jews has been murdered in Paris, and the authorities are calling it a hate crime.

The body of the woman, Mireille Knoll, was found on Friday in her apartment in the city’s working-class 11th arrondissement. She had been stabbed to death, and her body was partly burned after her attackers apparently tried to set fire to the apartment.

The Paris prosecutor’s office said on Monday that Ms. Knoll had been killed because of the “membership, real or supposed, of the victim of a particular religion” — a roundabout way of saying she was killed because she was Jewish.

Ms. Knoll was a child in Paris when, in the summer of 1942, the French police, cooperating with the Germans, rounded up thousands of the city’s Jews, stuffing them into a cycling stadium, the Vélodrome d’Hiver. Virtually all were subsequently murdered at Auschwitz.

Ms. Knoll’s mother, summoned to the stadium like other Parisian Jews, was able to escape at the last minute with her daughter because she had a Brazilian passport, said Meyer Habib, a member of Parliament who has spoken with one of Ms. Knoll’s sons.

Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France, said, “This makes one feel something absolutely terrible. She escaped the anti-Semitism of the Nazis, but in the end her destiny followed her because she was killed because of anti-Semitism.”

Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said that “to attack a Jew is to attack France, and the values that are the very basis of the nation.”

A number of anti-Semitic episodes have shaken France, including the murder last year of Sarah Halimi, an elderly Jewish woman, by a man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window.

The speed with which the authorities recognized the hate-crime nature of Ms. Knoll’s murder is being seen as a reaction to the anger of France’s Jews at the official response to that earlier crime, which prosecutors took months to characterize as anti-Semitic.

Other anti-Semitic crimes that have rattled France include the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman, who killed four people, and the 2012 assault on a Jewish school in Toulouse by Mohammed Merah, who killed three children and a teacher after killing three soldiers.

By Monday, two suspects had been arrested in the murder of Ms. Knoll: one a neighbor who knew her well, and both young men in their 20s. “One of them had known her for a long time,” Mr. Kalifat said. “He had friendly relations with her.”

The Paris prosecutor’s office declined to characterize the origins of the two people; Mr. Kalifat said the principal suspect was of North African origin.

Okay, so in the 12th paragraph, the Times finally deigns to reveal that the “principal suspect was of North African origin” — in other words, he was a Muslim.

But, the New York Times is not going to come out and be so crass as to actually use words like “Muslim” or “Islam” in this entire article.

 
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  1. This would make a good book title.

  2. man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

    So he literally said “Dieu est grand”?

    • Agree: Anonym
    • LOL: bomag, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GkK8wS2WWc&t=15s

    , @Xavier
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    No, he said Allah Akbar of course (another disgrace of this article that Steve should point out) :

    Source : http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/meurtre-de-sarah-halimi-le-caractere-antisemite-du-crime-finalement-retenu-27-02-2018-7582257.php

    "Aux cris d'« Allah Akbar », entrecoupés d’insultes et de versets du Coran, le jeune homme l’avait rouée de coups sur le balcon, avant de la défenestrer."

    Translation (mine) : shouting "Allah Akbar", insulting her and saying Koran verses at the same time, the young man beat her violently on the balcony, and then threw her out of the window.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    So he literally said “Dieu est grand”?
     
    “Mon Dieu: Il est extra!—Bon voyage par la fenêtre” . . . Le splat.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre:

    “It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and gravity will be resented because of its leading role.”

    Replies: @Anonym, @Pericles

    , @ChrisZ
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    What you said, Hippo.

    Shouldn’t the Times’ decision to obscure the actual words through translation be considered an anti-Christian dog whistle?

    , @istevefan
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Usually highbrow publications like the NY Times like to keep certain words or phrases in their original language, especially French ones, to show how sophisticated they are. It forces dullards like me to consult the dictionary.

    Hasn't 'allahu akbar' passed over to the point where it should logically be left in its original form? Just like charge d'affaires, coup d'état and a myriad of other foreign expressions, 'allahu akbar' should not be translated into English.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @pyrrhus
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    But remember, the attackers were Frenchmen, indistinguishable from Camus and Moliere....

  3. The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman

    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an “immature and psychopathic personality” and “poor powers of introspection”.

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in “isolation” in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014

    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Lot

    Dude spent three or four months incarcerated after supplying arms to break a convicted terrorist out of prison. In the U.S.A. people spend more time in gaol for stealing hubcaps, screwing up taxes or securities filings, and selling weed to their friends. In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    Replies: @Abe, @Brutusale, @ScarletNumber

    , @1661er
    @Lot

    Western Europe have a huge issue of prison radicalization. Their responses are hampered by their ideological opposition to solitary confinements. Instead of thought and prayers, maybe US politicians should offer them the blueprint of ADX Florence, where there are no know instanced of prisoners became radicalized by other inmates.

    Or maybe French should just dust off the old blue print for the Devil's Island from the book/movies"Papillon." It seemed to had worked for France. There will be a new movie remake of the stories. So that should remind them that France used to have an effective penal system.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Jack D
    @Lot

    Heavily armed "Frenchman" Coulibaly:

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_large/public/thumbnails/image/2015/01/11/11/amedy-coulibaly.jpg

    , @rogue-one
    @Lot

    Not just comically short prison sentences.

    I know some migrants in Paris who committed crimes within a few months of their arrival. The cops just let them off with a warning. Most of the times when they riot or create a scene, the goal of cops is to deescalate situation and just to get them away. They do not try to arrest them out of fear creating a huge riot (unless it is a serious crime).

    France informally has a two tier-legal system, one for native French, second for "vibrants". While we are still not as bad as American or British, perhaps because we do not speak English, banker Macron would like to turn France into UK 2.0.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Lot


    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.
     
    When a society is no longer willing to either execute or expel people who flout its laws, norms, standards--or are just parasites upon the productive within it--it ceases to be any sort of community or nation and is on a slide--long or short--to being a barbarous dystopia.

    Exact norms can vary, but civilization requires some sort of demand that its citizens actually be civilized.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Lot


    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.
     
    When a society is no longer willing to either execute or expel people who flout its laws, norms, standards--or are just parasites upon the productive within it--it ceases to be any sort of community or nation and is on a slide--long or short--to being a barbarous dystopia.

    Exact norms can vary, but civilization requires some sort of demand that its citizens actually be civilized.
  4. Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said that “to attack a Jew is to attack France, and the values that are the very basis of the nation.”

    I didn’t know that France is based on the notion of the supremacy of global pan-judaism.

    I thought it had to do with whatever came out at the far end of the Revolution/Terror/Military-Dicatatorship freakshow of the 18th century.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @El Dato

    Was anything similar said when the priest was beheaded at the altar a couple years ago?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

  5. One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because…?!?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @D. K.


    One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because…?!?

     

    Considering demographic orientation of (Muslim) killer and (Jewish) killed - it is likely to be nationalistically motivated.

    Otherwise, the most likely motivation to go around randomly stabbing 85 year old neighbours, without interest in stealing anything.

    It's interesting to compare levels of this issue between France and Russia.

    In the glamorous capital city of the supposed 'Western beacon' France, Jews nowadays quite often are murdered for their religion.

    Meanwhile, in Russia the reverse trend has occurred.

    https://news.rambler.ru/other/39420097-fedotov-otsenil-uspehi-rossii-v-iskorenenii-antisemitizma/

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @Olorin
    @D. K.

    Because it is only owing to "anti-Semitism" that all Jews don't live forever, silly.

    They're "The Chosen," remember. And that obviously means that any time they die, it's because of the super-bad juju of "anti-Semitism."

  6. It’s amazing how effective BSing like this can be. I was listening to a podcast I enjoy, and a guest described the Austin bomber as a “neo-nazi white supremacist.” The hosts did not dispute his claim (why defend neo-nazis anyway?)

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anthony Wayne

    a guest described the Austin bomber as a “neo-nazi white supremacist.”

    As long as the descriptor "white" is accurate, the other adjective and noun apply automatically.

  7. It seems likely to be another nationalistic motivated crime in Paris – according to the testimony of the granddaughter the killer is a Muslim.

    “Twenty years ago, I left Paris knowing that neither my future nor that of the Jewish People is to be found there,” wrote Goldfarb, who lives in Herzliya, Israel. “But who would’ve thought that I was leaving my relatives where terrorism and cruelty would lead to such a tragedy. Grandmother was stabbed to death 11 times by a Muslim neighbor she knew well, who made sure to set fire to her home and left us not even one object, a letter, a photograph, to remember her by. All we have are our tears and each other.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/france-jewish-grandmother-stabbed-to-death-11-times-by-a-muslim-neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Dmitry


    "Grandmother was stabbed to death 11 times by a Muslim neighbor she knew well, who made sure to set fire to her home and left us not even one object, a letter, a photograph, to remember her by. All we have are our tears and each other.”
     
    This is practically the end of a Spielberg movie.
  8. So I’ve been taking an unnoficial survey of which NYT articles allow commenting. The most egregious examples of headline-story dissonance never do, including the above example. Optimistically, this could be because even NYT readers know the score. But I suspect it’s just the megaphone operating as usual. A topic at New York dinner parties is probably “something something antisemetic something France something nazi Trump Trump Trump” and that’s all there is.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Moral Stone

    I’ve studied that pattern too (whether or not NYT enables comments).

    They favour stories that will cause readers to make comments agreeing with NYT’s viewpoint.

    Comments are never enabled when Muslims behave badly. As noted, every attempt is made to coverup for Islam. “God is great” rather than “Allahu Akbar.”

    Sometimes they get it wrong and swiftly close commenting when things are going wrong.

  9. man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

    Which God? Great at what?

    The motive is unclear.

  10. The NYT is consistent see W. Duranty or Hitler. Effin ahole globalist religion pamplet.

  11. No doubt the “Malian” *actually* shouted “God is great!” Because the first thing that would spring to the mind of a “Malian man” defenestrating someone would be spoken in English, of course.

    • Replies: @a reader
    @Dov

    In the most recent case of Jihad in France by a Moroccan-born guy, journalists were lucky to find a not-so-well- versed-in-Arabic witness.

    He shouted : "Allah, je ne sais pas quoi" [Allah, I don't know what] reported the female customer.

    The guy then proceeded to shoot about 20 people, 3 letally, and slit the throat of the police officer who had offered to take the place of a female hostage.

    Needless to say the media used all kind of euphemisms, like injury to the throat or very serious injury to the trachea and larynx to cover-up the typical muslim m.o.

  12. @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

  13. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France

    OK. I don’t know much about French Jewish names, so I’m sure someone here can help me out. But why does his name sound so similar to “caliphate”? Is he some kind of Algerian Jew or something?

    Actually, it’s sort of a grim irony that his name sounds a lot like “France’s Caliphate”.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @anon

    I believe that a majority of France’s Jews come from Algeria.

    The European Ashkenzis were mostly killed in WW II. But there was a war over Algeria, after WW II, and many (likely most) Algerian Jews moved to France.

    So they may have Arabic surnames, not the Ashkenazi-style Germanic ones.

    Replies: @snorlax

  14. OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one’s talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We’ve got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon’s lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I’d bet alot of money they’re not white, but over here there’s no one who’d take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    • Replies: @Lot
    @International Jew

    One of the officers was black and the other white. They were making about 125k a year in their early 30's.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Autochthon, @roo_ster

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @International Jew

    Stephon Clark has a record of felony arrests, assault and endangering the life of a child are among the charges. He was killed while prowling through his grandmother's neighborhood at night, looking for stuff to steal. It's too bad he had to die. But then again, his death means Golden State tax-payers won't be on the hook for his future incarcerations.

  15. @D. K.
    One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because...?!?

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Olorin

    One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because…?!?

    Considering demographic orientation of (Muslim) killer and (Jewish) killed – it is likely to be nationalistically motivated.

    Otherwise, the most likely motivation to go around randomly stabbing 85 year old neighbours, without interest in stealing anything.

    It’s interesting to compare levels of this issue between France and Russia.

    In the glamorous capital city of the supposed ‘Western beacon’ France, Jews nowadays quite often are murdered for their religion.

    Meanwhile, in Russia the reverse trend has occurred.

    https://news.rambler.ru/other/39420097-fedotov-otsenil-uspehi-rossii-v-iskorenenii-antisemitizma/

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Dmitry

    I can't read that article. What are you saying? That in Moscow now Jews are beating random Russians in the streets?

    Replies: @snorlax

  16. OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one’s talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We’ve got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon’s lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I’d bet alot of money they’re not white, but over here there’s no one who’d take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article206837754.html

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @International Jew

    Sorry about multiple posts. Hit some bad interaction between unz.com and Chrome on Android.

    , @Anonymous
    @International Jew

    Wikipedia (always 100 percent accurate) says:


    The officers

    The Sacramento Police department stated that they would release the names of the officers who carried out the shooting within 10 days of the event. On March 23, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris stated that the officers who had shot and killed Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet. One day earlier, another source told the Sacramento Bee that Mercadal was one of the shooters. The Sacramento Police Department did not confirm the attorney's statement and said that both officers had received death threats.

    Mercadel attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove. He was an officer in Olive Branch, Mississippi near Memphis, where he also managed a personal training company. In 2015 Mercadel attended an officer training program in Oakland, and served as a community service officer in Sacramento. He was hired as an officer by Sacramento Police Department in 2016. At the time of Clark's shooting, Mercadel was a patrol officer in Meadowview, the location where Clark was shot. Robinet was hired by the Sacramento Police Department in 2014.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist

  17. Ironic that the decision of one German chancellor in 2015 may complete the work of another German chancellor 70 years prior.

  18. her body was partly burned after her attackers apparently tried to set fire to the apartment

    She survived the Holocaust, only to die in a hemicaust.
    ( Pardon the bad taste )

  19. @International Jew
    OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one's talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We've got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon's lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I'd bet alot of money they're not white, but over here there's no one who'd take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    Replies: @Lot, @SunBakedSuburb

    One of the officers was black and the other white. They were making about 125k a year in their early 30’s.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Lot

    Yeah, I see that now. Or for sure one was black. There's body camera footage and the voices sound like one black, and one white.

    The white half of that team must be thanking his lucky stars that he was assigned a black partner. He'd be toast otherwise — name, face, address everywhere.

    You can sense the awkwardness in the news coverage, eh?

    Replies: @Abe

    , @Autochthon
    @Lot

    What a racket. The popular conception that police are hardworking, plain folks is just preposterous nowadays when this kind of remuneration is not at all uncommon, especially when one considers most of these characters aren't even salaried, so they put in nothing near the grueling efforts people with real jobs must to make that kind of money. (And it's nothing to do with risk to life and limb and violence; else combat pay would dwarf police pay, and it does not even come close.)

    Replies: @Hibernian, @International Jew, @The preferred nomenclature is...

    , @roo_ster
    @Lot

    $125k/year in their 30's? I know experienced engineers that don;t pull down that kind of scratch.

    What does Derbyshire say? "GET A GOVERNMENT JOB!"

  20. @International Jew
    OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one's talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We've got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon's lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I'd bet alot of money they're not white, but over here there's no one who'd take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article206837754.html

    Replies: @International Jew, @Anonymous

    Sorry about multiple posts. Hit some bad interaction between unz.com and Chrome on Android.

  21. @Lot
    @International Jew

    One of the officers was black and the other white. They were making about 125k a year in their early 30's.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Autochthon, @roo_ster

    Yeah, I see that now. Or for sure one was black. There’s body camera footage and the voices sound like one black, and one white.

    The white half of that team must be thanking his lucky stars that he was assigned a black partner. He’d be toast otherwise — name, face, address everywhere.

    You can sense the awkwardness in the news coverage, eh?

    • Replies: @Abe
    @International Jew


    There’s body camera footage and the voices sound like one black, and one white.
     
    Let’s not stampede to judgement. How can we be sure the one policeman’s black body was under the control of a black soul at the time of the shooting? It could have been dominated by a malign white intelligence which made it pull the trigger. I’ve seen several cases of this on the Oscar-winning documentary GET OUT.
  22. Just Jew killing immigrants Amedy, Mohammed, the Malian dude, the North Africans, doing work the Frenchman won’t do.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  23. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Dude spent three or four months incarcerated after supplying arms to break a convicted terrorist out of prison. In the U.S.A. people spend more time in gaol for stealing hubcaps, screwing up taxes or securities filings, and selling weed to their friends. In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Autochthon


    In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.
     
    The problem with us conservatives is that we’re generally happy, well-adjusted, functional people, and so don’t have that flair for the dramatic which the truly miserable and desperate do. Take the case of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, disgraced DNC mucketty-muck who was thrown out for a bit too much “I’m (rigging the primaries) With Her!” And yet she is having a Travolta/Bruce Willis-level career resurgence by astroturfing this whole RUN FOR OUR LIVES children’s crusade from behind the scenes* like some obsessive theater mom (Wasserman has three relatively young kids, so the analogy is apt). I’m sure when Hollywood gets around to telling the true story of this there’ll be a crazy musical montage of her making phone calls, decorating poster board signs, etc., all while trying not to burn dinner for her family on the night of the shootings, when the total body count is yet unclear due to the critically wounded who still made it to the hospital (Beat Sandyhook! Beat Sandyhook! Awwwwww...)

    Anyway, if we had any sense we’d be making a YUGE deal out of the fact that in Canada, Britain, and the EU-zone they are routinely jailing people for speech crimes. Trump’s State Dept. should make this an international relations issue, saying the US will reconsider all manner of ties with speech-oppressive regimes, and give political asylum to speech dissidents. We should also set up a special refugee program for working class English white girls on the grounds they live in a state which tacitly condones their sex-trafficking (not far-fetched at all given that the Obama/Power-era State Dept was going to let in any Guatemalan who claimed a history of DOMESTIC abuse as a refugee).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @schnellandine

    , @Brutusale
    @Autochthon

    There's a guy (a Polish Illegal) in a Boston courtroom right now facing SIXTY YEARS in prison for animal abuse.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/03/radoslaw_czerkawski_faces_up_to_60_years_in_prison

    The guy deserves time, but 60 years?

    Meanwhile, the MA penalty for manslaughter? From the criminal code:

    Section 13. Whoever commits manslaughter shall, except as hereinafter provided, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than twenty years or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars and imprisonment in jail or a house of correction for not more than two and one half years. Whoever commits manslaughter while violating the provisions of sections 102 to 102C, inclusive, of chapter 266 shall be imprisoned in the state prison for life or for any term of years.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Autochthon


    gaol
     
    Is this a word?

    Replies: @Autochthon, @JerseyJeffersonian

  24. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Western Europe have a huge issue of prison radicalization. Their responses are hampered by their ideological opposition to solitary confinements. Instead of thought and prayers, maybe US politicians should offer them the blueprint of ADX Florence, where there are no know instanced of prisoners became radicalized by other inmates.

    Or maybe French should just dust off the old blue print for the Devil’s Island from the book/movies”Papillon.” It seemed to had worked for France. There will be a new movie remake of the stories. So that should remind them that France used to have an effective penal system.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @1661er

    ADX Florence is too expensive a model. Turkey may have some cheaper designs.

    EU should build prisons in its poor countries to boost their economies. Holland for example does not have room for any big new prisons.

    But they won't, because if they had good sense like that they wouldn't be importing millions of third world Muslims in the first place.

  25. @Lot
    @International Jew

    One of the officers was black and the other white. They were making about 125k a year in their early 30's.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Autochthon, @roo_ster

    What a racket. The popular conception that police are hardworking, plain folks is just preposterous nowadays when this kind of remuneration is not at all uncommon, especially when one considers most of these characters aren’t even salaried, so they put in nothing near the grueling efforts people with real jobs must to make that kind of money. (And it’s nothing to do with risk to life and limb and violence; else combat pay would dwarf police pay, and it does not even come close.)

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Autochthon

    Keep in mind we're talking about California.

    , @International Jew
    @Autochthon

    $125/year is juat their nominal pay. At age 50 they can retire at a pension equal to 3% times their "years of service". It's been that way in California since about 2000. Before, it was 2%.

    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Autochthon

    Agreed. Public servant my ass. Yeah, the public are their servants now.

  26. How to survive as a Jew in the Age of Trump?

    • Agree: MBlanc46
  27. In Fourth Reich Europe, Frau Führer brings in an immigrant labor force to do the jobs Europeans just won’t do.

  28. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    I will often read a New York Times headline and instantly know that a certain piece of information is key to the whole story, but will probably be buried. I literally read the story from the top and count the paragraphs until I find the key fact. It’s a game: how far did they bury it?

    For instance, there is an evergreen type of story that goes something like this:

    “In These Dark Times a Human Rights Activist is Questioned for Hours and Barred from Entry to the U.S.”

    In airport immigration stories the key is always the answer to the question, “What was his visa?” What were the actual words and letters and dates on the visa stamped in his passport? Or was it an internet visa? Read down until you find that information. Sometimes it isn’t even in the story.

    Airport immigration officials are not Nazis, and they don’t issue visas. They are boring functionaries who simply compare an issued visa’s category to the visitor’s purpose and figure out if it matches. Now with internet, their job is easier.

    Ninety percent of the time these cases involve visitors who think that they can come the the U.S. using a $14.00 internet ESTA visa and do whatever the hell they want here. And ESTA is more or less a B-2 visa, and what you can and cannot do is clearly listed on the screen when you apply for it only with more detail at state.gov.

    Can your band play a gig? Can you make a speech? Can your main purpose be to participate in a protest? Can you teach a college class? Check the fine print when you get your visa. This applies not only to the U.S. but to any other country you apply to.

    Another big category involves colleges and universities, who sometimes want people to come over on an inappropriate visa because it’s faster and cheaper and involves less paperwork and fewer questions … and it works 95 percent of the time but doesn’t work 5 percent of the time. Since colleges invite left-wing people, they immediately assume that the fascist U.S. government is out to get them, rather than that their hosts screwed the pooch on their visa.

    You also get people stringing together tourist visas one after the other. This will get you ejected also.

    Also, there are the “Canadians can just walk over the border, and although I’m not Canadian I’m currently in Canada, so I can just walk over the the U.S. also, right?” guys.

    This segues into another pet peeve: In cases involving specialized knowledge, an expert should be consulted. Journalists writing about immigration should be talking to an immigration attorney, preferably one who works at the port of entry in question, not to an activist professor who the journalist found on Twitter. The answer is usually very simple and boring. Likewise with other legal questions and with medical and scientific questions. There are so many out-of-work attorneys that I feel that any legal story in a newspaper should be written by an attorney who is given some journalism training.

    As far as backward reading, I do this on the internet where there are no word limits, especially at places like The Atlantic and Slate. There are common types of stories in these sorts of publications where the initial x paragraphs or screens are not worth reading: (1) The tweet expanded to an article, and (2) the ripped-off, aggregated story dressed up to look like an original.

    For the tweet expanded to an article, the writer needs the $25 or whatever they pay to make the rent, so they preface their single clever observation on some current news story with 1,000 words of recap and background. For the ripped-off aggregation they conceal that they are just doing a rewrite of some other outlet’s original story by loading on the recap and background in the beginning, restating the main theme as if original, and then linking out to the actual source via a sneaky link from what appears to be a minor aside, as CYA in case they are accused of ripping off the story. This allows them to not only get some of the traffic for the story, but to conceal from Google’s relevancy ranking algorithms that they are aggregating another outlet’s content, which will get your site penalized in Google.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    Canadians used to simply answer border officials questions. Post 9/11 Canadians now need a passport.

    I don’t think they need a visa, although I might be wrong. I haven’t gone south in decades.

    , @anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for taking the time to lay this out. It reinforces my sense that I learn more here than I would spending much more time on the NYT, WaPo, the magazines you've mentioned, etc.

  29. And yet the Jews will continue to insist that the people who mudered this woman be allowed to pour into Europe unchecked.

    There is a degree of poetic justice here, like it or not.

    • Replies: @Jimi Shmendrix
    @celt darnell

    There is no "the Jews".

    Replies: @Neuday

  30. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    The last several years have seen a marked rise in anti-Semitism in both Europe and the United States, alongside a rise in historical revisionism about the Holocaust as its survivors begin to die out. In the UK, 2016 saw more reports of anti-Semitic acts than any year on record. Jewish cemeteries were vandalized and community centers were threatened in the US in 2017, while in Poland a new law making it illegal to blame Poles for any part in the Holocaust has sparked international concern.

    Google news via Buzzfeed. This is the final paragraph.

  31. @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

    No, he said Allah Akbar of course (another disgrace of this article that Steve should point out) :

    Source : http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/meurtre-de-sarah-halimi-le-caractere-antisemite-du-crime-finalement-retenu-27-02-2018-7582257.php

    “Aux cris d’« Allah Akbar », entrecoupés d’insultes et de versets du Coran, le jeune homme l’avait rouée de coups sur le balcon, avant de la défenestrer.”

    Translation (mine) : shouting “Allah Akbar”, insulting her and saying Koran verses at the same time, the young man beat her violently on the balcony, and then threw her out of the window.

  32. @El Dato

    Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said that “to attack a Jew is to attack France, and the values that are the very basis of the nation.”
     
    I didn't know that France is based on the notion of the supremacy of global pan-judaism.

    I thought it had to do with whatever came out at the far end of the Revolution/Terror/Military-Dicatatorship freakshow of the 18th century.

    Replies: @istevefan

    Was anything similar said when the priest was beheaded at the altar a couple years ago?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @istevefan

    Good question. I don't recall Il Papa dwelling very long on the subject of his martyred brother priest either.

    , @Hibernian
    @istevefan

    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.

    Replies: @Jake, @istevefan

  33. @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

    So he literally said “Dieu est grand”?

    “Mon Dieu: Il est extra!—Bon voyage par la fenêtre” . . . Le splat.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre:

    “It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and gravity will be resented because of its leading role.”

    • LOL: Mishra
    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If there is a silver lining to PC it is that a lot of Jews didn't or don't want to get the memo and have drunk the koolaid. BLS should have just stayed at home making babies and let the Jewish men do the thinking and the talking. But no, she had to get in on the act, lol! Grrrlpower!

    , @Pericles
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse."

  34. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    So he literally said “Dieu est grand”?
     
    “Mon Dieu: Il est extra!—Bon voyage par la fenêtre” . . . Le splat.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre:

    “It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and gravity will be resented because of its leading role.”

    Replies: @Anonym, @Pericles

    If there is a silver lining to PC it is that a lot of Jews didn’t or don’t want to get the memo and have drunk the koolaid. BLS should have just stayed at home making babies and let the Jewish men do the thinking and the talking. But no, she had to get in on the act, lol! Grrrlpower!

  35. @istevefan
    @El Dato

    Was anything similar said when the priest was beheaded at the altar a couple years ago?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

    Good question. I don’t recall Il Papa dwelling very long on the subject of his martyred brother priest either.

  36. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one's talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We've got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon's lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I'd bet alot of money they're not white, but over here there's no one who'd take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article206837754.html

    Replies: @International Jew, @Anonymous

    Wikipedia (always 100 percent accurate) says:

    The officers

    The Sacramento Police department stated that they would release the names of the officers who carried out the shooting within 10 days of the event. On March 23, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris stated that the officers who had shot and killed Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet. One day earlier, another source told the Sacramento Bee that Mercadal was one of the shooters. The Sacramento Police Department did not confirm the attorney’s statement and said that both officers had received death threats.

    Mercadel attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove. He was an officer in Olive Branch, Mississippi near Memphis, where he also managed a personal training company. In 2015 Mercadel attended an officer training program in Oakland, and served as a community service officer in Sacramento. He was hired as an officer by Sacramento Police Department in 2016. At the time of Clark’s shooting, Mercadel was a patrol officer in Meadowview, the location where Clark was shot. Robinet was hired by the Sacramento Police Department in 2014.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Sacramento Bee
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article206557539.html


    A representative from the law office of John Burris in Oakland said that the two officers who fired 10 shots each at Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet.
    :
    Mercadal had been identified to The Sacramento Bee by a separate source on Thursday. He was identified then as an African American man</bp who had attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove and was known as a patrol officer in the Meadowview neighborhood where Clark was shot.

    An online search confirmed a Terrance Mercadal graduated from Laguna Creek in 2003.
    :
    Mercadal also worked as a limited-term community service officer in Sacramento in 2015 after a short stint as a police officer trainee that year in Oakland, according to Transparent California.

     

    The names were gotten off of body cam footage before the cops realized they were there and censored them. The reason for not releasing the names: death threats. I wonder if any deaths will result from the assumption that white cops were the shooters.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @stillCARealist
    @Anonymous

    Meadowview area used to be a black ghetto. I thought the Mexicans had taken over, but apparently not.

  37. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    @International Jew

    Wikipedia (always 100 percent accurate) says:


    The officers

    The Sacramento Police department stated that they would release the names of the officers who carried out the shooting within 10 days of the event. On March 23, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris stated that the officers who had shot and killed Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet. One day earlier, another source told the Sacramento Bee that Mercadal was one of the shooters. The Sacramento Police Department did not confirm the attorney's statement and said that both officers had received death threats.

    Mercadel attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove. He was an officer in Olive Branch, Mississippi near Memphis, where he also managed a personal training company. In 2015 Mercadel attended an officer training program in Oakland, and served as a community service officer in Sacramento. He was hired as an officer by Sacramento Police Department in 2016. At the time of Clark's shooting, Mercadel was a patrol officer in Meadowview, the location where Clark was shot. Robinet was hired by the Sacramento Police Department in 2014.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist

    Sacramento Bee
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article206557539.html

    A representative from the law office of John Burris in Oakland said that the two officers who fired 10 shots each at Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet.
    :
    Mercadal had been identified to The Sacramento Bee by a separate source on Thursday. He was identified then as an African American man</bp who had attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove and was known as a patrol officer in the Meadowview neighborhood where Clark was shot.

    An online search confirmed a Terrance Mercadal graduated from Laguna Creek in 2003.
    :
    Mercadal also worked as a limited-term community service officer in Sacramento in 2015 after a short stint as a police officer trainee that year in Oakland, according to Transparent California.

    The names were gotten off of body cam footage before the cops realized they were there and censored them. The reason for not releasing the names: death threats. I wonder if any deaths will result from the assumption that white cops were the shooters.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    So Officer Mercadal is black. What is Officer Robinet?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @petit bourgeois

  38. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Sacramento Bee
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article206557539.html


    A representative from the law office of John Burris in Oakland said that the two officers who fired 10 shots each at Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet.
    :
    Mercadal had been identified to The Sacramento Bee by a separate source on Thursday. He was identified then as an African American man</bp who had attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove and was known as a patrol officer in the Meadowview neighborhood where Clark was shot.

    An online search confirmed a Terrance Mercadal graduated from Laguna Creek in 2003.
    :
    Mercadal also worked as a limited-term community service officer in Sacramento in 2015 after a short stint as a police officer trainee that year in Oakland, according to Transparent California.

     

    The names were gotten off of body cam footage before the cops realized they were there and censored them. The reason for not releasing the names: death threats. I wonder if any deaths will result from the assumption that white cops were the shooters.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    So Officer Mercadal is black. What is Officer Robinet?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    The body cam video is out there on various websites, and my impression from the voice was that the second cop was white or a minority able to codeshift into Received White American Bourgeois English. Take a listen and see what you think.

    DuckDuckGo's image search for the second cop's name shows a photo of a young white guy in a football uniform named "Jared Robinet," but Google Image Search has no such image that I could find. Google let's you backtrack to the page the image was on, but I cannot figure out how to do that with DDG. So I can't really say if it's just a coincidence, or a photo of the guy when he was in high school, or what.

    , @petit bourgeois
    @Steve Sailer

    The cops will most likely get qualified immunity whether they are black or white. If John Burris in Oakland is involved, there's going to be a federal 1983 action filed soon on this shooting.

    Cops shoot everyone, regardless of race or social class. Who's going to prosecute them when they murder unarmed innocents? The Pope?

  39. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Has any antisemitic assault or attack in today’s France, actual assaults and attacks involving bodily injury up to and including murder been perpetrated by a real ethnic indigenous Catholic Frenchman?

  40. The earlier, thinly reported (even in the French press), Sarah Halimi case was awful. Her young Muslim neighbour beat for hours even with three policemen outside her door. The blows were so hard they could be heard by her other neigbours.

    Eventually he threw the old lady out a fourth floor window.

    I have yet to read an explanation of why the police did not go in when she was clearing being slowly put to death.

    • Replies: @a reader
    @Bill B.


    The earlier, thinly reported (even in the French press), Sarah Halimi case was awful.
     
    It took place less than 3 weeks before the first round of presidential elections; shedding light on the murderer's profile might have helped the Front National, which is the greatest threat for France.

    It has been re-qualified as anti-semitic only last month.
    , @Anon
    @Bill B.

    Since Jews insist on being pro-Muslim in France, it may be that the French natives (in this case, the police) have decided that if Jews want this, it's their problem and their problem alone.

    I have no doubt that when the police responded, they knew which apartment it was, and they had the owner's name in their computers before they arrived. They knew she was Jewish from her last name, and had a good idea of what was going on from the outside.

    To put it bluntly, the only way the French police are going to make the French public wake up is to allow the bodies to accumulate until the French public decides enough is enough, and finally decides to expel the Muslim invaders.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jimi Shmendrix

  41. “But, the New York Times is not going to come out and be so crass as to actually use words like “Muslim” or “Islam” in this entire article.”

    They didn’t have to since they did use the other M word, Mohammed. They could’ve at least had the decency to put ****’s after Mo or something. I mean, the very name is the giveaway to the whole thing. If the NYT had been more creative they’d have found a way to convince their readers that the potential perp was named Jacques or Pierre. Someone must’ve fallen asleep in the ombudsman dept. at the NYT this weekend not to have noticed that the very name gives the whole thing away. How can anyone assume that this Holocaust survivor was actually killed by a gay Catholic priest if the perp’s name is identified as Mohammed in the story?

    After noticing for about a decade that so many of these perps have the name Mohammed, one gets the feeling that terrorism and Mohammed are interconnected, share something in common, etc.

    Is there something about the name Mohammed that just brings out the baddest in these terrorist perps, or does the problem go deeper than that? As in, Mohammed’s example begets more and more terrorism vs. non-Muslims and has for nearly 1,400 yrs and counting.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

  42. @Moral Stone
    So I’ve been taking an unnoficial survey of which NYT articles allow commenting. The most egregious examples of headline-story dissonance never do, including the above example. Optimistically, this could be because even NYT readers know the score. But I suspect it’s just the megaphone operating as usual. A topic at New York dinner parties is probably “something something antisemetic something France something nazi Trump Trump Trump” and that’s all there is.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I’ve studied that pattern too (whether or not NYT enables comments).

    They favour stories that will cause readers to make comments agreeing with NYT’s viewpoint.

    Comments are never enabled when Muslims behave badly. As noted, every attempt is made to coverup for Islam. “God is great” rather than “Allahu Akbar.”

    Sometimes they get it wrong and swiftly close commenting when things are going wrong.

  43. @Dmitry
    It seems likely to be another nationalistic motivated crime in Paris - according to the testimony of the granddaughter the killer is a Muslim.

    “Twenty years ago, I left Paris knowing that neither my future nor that of the Jewish People is to be found there,” wrote Goldfarb, who lives in Herzliya, Israel. “But who would’ve thought that I was leaving my relatives where terrorism and cruelty would lead to such a tragedy. Grandmother was stabbed to death 11 times by a Muslim neighbor she knew well, who made sure to set fire to her home and left us not even one object, a letter, a photograph, to remember her by. All we have are our tears and each other.”
     
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/france-jewish-grandmother-stabbed-to-death-11-times-by-a-muslim-neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

    Replies: @El Dato

    “Grandmother was stabbed to death 11 times by a Muslim neighbor she knew well, who made sure to set fire to her home and left us not even one object, a letter, a photograph, to remember her by. All we have are our tears and each other.”

    This is practically the end of a Spielberg movie.

  44. @anon

    Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France
     
    OK. I don't know much about French Jewish names, so I'm sure someone here can help me out. But why does his name sound so similar to "caliphate"? Is he some kind of Algerian Jew or something?

    Actually, it's sort of a grim irony that his name sounds a lot like "France's Caliphate".

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I believe that a majority of France’s Jews come from Algeria.

    The European Ashkenzis were mostly killed in WW II. But there was a war over Algeria, after WW II, and many (likely most) Algerian Jews moved to France.

    So they may have Arabic surnames, not the Ashkenazi-style Germanic ones.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Frau Katze

    Most Jews in metropolitan France survived,* although between those who were killed and emigration to Israel they did lose most of their pre-war Jewish population.

    *In general, the further east in Nazi-occupied territory, the smaller the proportion of Jews who survived.

  45. @Anonymous
    I will often read a New York Times headline and instantly know that a certain piece of information is key to the whole story, but will probably be buried. I literally read the story from the top and count the paragraphs until I find the key fact. It's a game: how far did they bury it?

    For instance, there is an evergreen type of story that goes something like this:

    "In These Dark Times a Human Rights Activist is Questioned for Hours and Barred from Entry to the U.S."

    In airport immigration stories the key is always the answer to the question, "What was his visa?" What were the actual words and letters and dates on the visa stamped in his passport? Or was it an internet visa? Read down until you find that information. Sometimes it isn't even in the story.

    Airport immigration officials are not Nazis, and they don't issue visas. They are boring functionaries who simply compare an issued visa's category to the visitor's purpose and figure out if it matches. Now with internet, their job is easier.

    Ninety percent of the time these cases involve visitors who think that they can come the the U.S. using a $14.00 internet ESTA visa and do whatever the hell they want here. And ESTA is more or less a B-2 visa, and what you can and cannot do is clearly listed on the screen when you apply for it only with more detail at state.gov.

    Can your band play a gig? Can you make a speech? Can your main purpose be to participate in a protest? Can you teach a college class? Check the fine print when you get your visa. This applies not only to the U.S. but to any other country you apply to.

    Another big category involves colleges and universities, who sometimes want people to come over on an inappropriate visa because it's faster and cheaper and involves less paperwork and fewer questions ... and it works 95 percent of the time but doesn't work 5 percent of the time. Since colleges invite left-wing people, they immediately assume that the fascist U.S. government is out to get them, rather than that their hosts screwed the pooch on their visa.

    You also get people stringing together tourist visas one after the other. This will get you ejected also.

    Also, there are the "Canadians can just walk over the border, and although I'm not Canadian I'm currently in Canada, so I can just walk over the the U.S. also, right?" guys.

    This segues into another pet peeve: In cases involving specialized knowledge, an expert should be consulted. Journalists writing about immigration should be talking to an immigration attorney, preferably one who works at the port of entry in question, not to an activist professor who the journalist found on Twitter. The answer is usually very simple and boring. Likewise with other legal questions and with medical and scientific questions. There are so many out-of-work attorneys that I feel that any legal story in a newspaper should be written by an attorney who is given some journalism training.

    As far as backward reading, I do this on the internet where there are no word limits, especially at places like The Atlantic and Slate. There are common types of stories in these sorts of publications where the initial x paragraphs or screens are not worth reading: (1) The tweet expanded to an article, and (2) the ripped-off, aggregated story dressed up to look like an original.

    For the tweet expanded to an article, the writer needs the $25 or whatever they pay to make the rent, so they preface their single clever observation on some current news story with 1,000 words of recap and background. For the ripped-off aggregation they conceal that they are just doing a rewrite of some other outlet's original story by loading on the recap and background in the beginning, restating the main theme as if original, and then linking out to the actual source via a sneaky link from what appears to be a minor aside, as CYA in case they are accused of ripping off the story. This allows them to not only get some of the traffic for the story, but to conceal from Google's relevancy ranking algorithms that they are aggregating another outlet's content, which will get your site penalized in Google.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @anonymous

    Canadians used to simply answer border officials questions. Post 9/11 Canadians now need a passport.

    I don’t think they need a visa, although I might be wrong. I haven’t gone south in decades.

  46. @Dov
    No doubt the "Malian" *actually* shouted "God is great!" Because the first thing that would spring to the mind of a "Malian man" defenestrating someone would be spoken in English, of course.

    Replies: @a reader

    In the most recent case of Jihad in France by a Moroccan-born guy, journalists were lucky to find a not-so-well- versed-in-Arabic witness.

    He shouted : “Allah, je ne sais pas quoi” [Allah, I don’t know what] reported the female customer.

    The guy then proceeded to shoot about 20 people, 3 letally, and slit the throat of the police officer who had offered to take the place of a female hostage.

    Needless to say the media used all kind of euphemisms, like injury to the throat or very serious injury to the trachea and larynx to cover-up the typical muslim m.o.

  47. Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France, said, “This makes one feel something absolutely terrible. She escaped the anti-Semitism of the Nazis, but in the end her destiny followed her because she was killed because of anti-Semitism.”

    In fact it was immigrationism that led to her death, not anti-Semitism, if some kind of overarching explanation is needed at all.

    Unsurprising that the usual suspects are trying to spin this as an “antisemitic” “hate crime”, when all the early signs are that it was just a sordid, common or garden interpersonal crime by youths who had known the victim for some time and one at least, according to the NYT, “had known her for a long time,” and “had friendly relations with her” – hardly the action of a murderous anti-Semite.

    Two men, aged 22 and 29, have been arrested and placed under formal investigation over the murder.

    A police source told French media that one of them had previously been convicted of molesting a 12-year-old girl who had been staying at Mireille Knoll’s flat.

    She had also complained to police that a neighbour had threatened to set fire to her home, according to reports.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43544721

    If the killers are now claiming they did it “because she was a jew”, obviously the first assumption is that they are just trying to give their own petty personal thuggishness some kind of noble (in their view) higher purpose. But that of course doesn’t suit jewish lobbies seeking their usual dose of victimhood and no doubt yet more special privileges and protections allowing them to harass and silence people who disagree with them, and nor does it suit those hoping to switch jewish support from pro-immigration to anti-immigration and therefore eager to be manipulated by the jewish lobbies to twist things in the “antisemitic hate-crime” direction.

    The first assumption in any case of alleged “hate crime” against a “special” minority group should always be that it’s a “hate hoax” or an attempt by identity lobbyists to profit from an ordinary crime by mis-characterising it..

  48. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I will often read a New York Times headline and instantly know that a certain piece of information is key to the whole story, but will probably be buried. I literally read the story from the top and count the paragraphs until I find the key fact. It's a game: how far did they bury it?

    For instance, there is an evergreen type of story that goes something like this:

    "In These Dark Times a Human Rights Activist is Questioned for Hours and Barred from Entry to the U.S."

    In airport immigration stories the key is always the answer to the question, "What was his visa?" What were the actual words and letters and dates on the visa stamped in his passport? Or was it an internet visa? Read down until you find that information. Sometimes it isn't even in the story.

    Airport immigration officials are not Nazis, and they don't issue visas. They are boring functionaries who simply compare an issued visa's category to the visitor's purpose and figure out if it matches. Now with internet, their job is easier.

    Ninety percent of the time these cases involve visitors who think that they can come the the U.S. using a $14.00 internet ESTA visa and do whatever the hell they want here. And ESTA is more or less a B-2 visa, and what you can and cannot do is clearly listed on the screen when you apply for it only with more detail at state.gov.

    Can your band play a gig? Can you make a speech? Can your main purpose be to participate in a protest? Can you teach a college class? Check the fine print when you get your visa. This applies not only to the U.S. but to any other country you apply to.

    Another big category involves colleges and universities, who sometimes want people to come over on an inappropriate visa because it's faster and cheaper and involves less paperwork and fewer questions ... and it works 95 percent of the time but doesn't work 5 percent of the time. Since colleges invite left-wing people, they immediately assume that the fascist U.S. government is out to get them, rather than that their hosts screwed the pooch on their visa.

    You also get people stringing together tourist visas one after the other. This will get you ejected also.

    Also, there are the "Canadians can just walk over the border, and although I'm not Canadian I'm currently in Canada, so I can just walk over the the U.S. also, right?" guys.

    This segues into another pet peeve: In cases involving specialized knowledge, an expert should be consulted. Journalists writing about immigration should be talking to an immigration attorney, preferably one who works at the port of entry in question, not to an activist professor who the journalist found on Twitter. The answer is usually very simple and boring. Likewise with other legal questions and with medical and scientific questions. There are so many out-of-work attorneys that I feel that any legal story in a newspaper should be written by an attorney who is given some journalism training.

    As far as backward reading, I do this on the internet where there are no word limits, especially at places like The Atlantic and Slate. There are common types of stories in these sorts of publications where the initial x paragraphs or screens are not worth reading: (1) The tweet expanded to an article, and (2) the ripped-off, aggregated story dressed up to look like an original.

    For the tweet expanded to an article, the writer needs the $25 or whatever they pay to make the rent, so they preface their single clever observation on some current news story with 1,000 words of recap and background. For the ripped-off aggregation they conceal that they are just doing a rewrite of some other outlet's original story by loading on the recap and background in the beginning, restating the main theme as if original, and then linking out to the actual source via a sneaky link from what appears to be a minor aside, as CYA in case they are accused of ripping off the story. This allows them to not only get some of the traffic for the story, but to conceal from Google's relevancy ranking algorithms that they are aggregating another outlet's content, which will get your site penalized in Google.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @anonymous

    Thanks for taking the time to lay this out. It reinforces my sense that I learn more here than I would spending much more time on the NYT, WaPo, the magazines you’ve mentioned, etc.

  49. @Bill B.
    The earlier, thinly reported (even in the French press), Sarah Halimi case was awful. Her young Muslim neighbour beat for hours even with three policemen outside her door. The blows were so hard they could be heard by her other neigbours.

    Eventually he threw the old lady out a fourth floor window.

    I have yet to read an explanation of why the police did not go in when she was clearing being slowly put to death.

    Replies: @a reader, @Anon

    The earlier, thinly reported (even in the French press), Sarah Halimi case was awful.

    It took place less than 3 weeks before the first round of presidential elections; shedding light on the murderer’s profile might have helped the Front National, which is the greatest threat for France.

    It has been re-qualified as anti-semitic only last month.

  50. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    So Officer Mercadal is black. What is Officer Robinet?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @petit bourgeois

    The body cam video is out there on various websites, and my impression from the voice was that the second cop was white or a minority able to codeshift into Received White American Bourgeois English. Take a listen and see what you think.

    DuckDuckGo’s image search for the second cop’s name shows a photo of a young white guy in a football uniform named “Jared Robinet,” but Google Image Search has no such image that I could find. Google let’s you backtrack to the page the image was on, but I cannot figure out how to do that with DDG. So I can’t really say if it’s just a coincidence, or a photo of the guy when he was in high school, or what.

  51. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    So Officer Mercadal is black. What is Officer Robinet?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @petit bourgeois

    The cops will most likely get qualified immunity whether they are black or white. If John Burris in Oakland is involved, there’s going to be a federal 1983 action filed soon on this shooting.

    Cops shoot everyone, regardless of race or social class. Who’s going to prosecute them when they murder unarmed innocents? The Pope?

  52. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    So he literally said “Dieu est grand”?
     
    “Mon Dieu: Il est extra!—Bon voyage par la fenêtre” . . . Le splat.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre:

    “It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and gravity will be resented because of its leading role.”

    Replies: @Anonym, @Pericles

    “As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

  53. @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

    What you said, Hippo.

    Shouldn’t the Times’ decision to obscure the actual words through translation be considered an anti-Christian dog whistle?

  54. A nice -and witty- initiative from French patriots.

  55. @celt darnell
    And yet the Jews will continue to insist that the people who mudered this woman be allowed to pour into Europe unchecked.

    There is a degree of poetic justice here, like it or not.

    Replies: @Jimi Shmendrix

    There is no “the Jews”.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Jimi Shmendrix


    There is no “the Jews”.
     
    But there sure are a helluva lot of coincidences.
  56. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:

    From the article:

    The Paris prosecutor’s office said on Monday that Ms. Knoll had been killed because of the “membership, real or supposed, of the victim of a particular religion” — a roundabout way of saying she was killed because she was Jewish.

    My analysis:

    Mr. Kalifat said the principal suspect was “of North African origin” — a roundabout way of saying he was a Muslim.

  57. Abe says: • Website
    @International Jew
    @Lot

    Yeah, I see that now. Or for sure one was black. There's body camera footage and the voices sound like one black, and one white.

    The white half of that team must be thanking his lucky stars that he was assigned a black partner. He'd be toast otherwise — name, face, address everywhere.

    You can sense the awkwardness in the news coverage, eh?

    Replies: @Abe

    There’s body camera footage and the voices sound like one black, and one white.

    Let’s not stampede to judgement. How can we be sure the one policeman’s black body was under the control of a black soul at the time of the shooting? It could have been dominated by a malign white intelligence which made it pull the trigger. I’ve seen several cases of this on the Oscar-winning documentary GET OUT.

  58. @Autochthon
    @Lot

    What a racket. The popular conception that police are hardworking, plain folks is just preposterous nowadays when this kind of remuneration is not at all uncommon, especially when one considers most of these characters aren't even salaried, so they put in nothing near the grueling efforts people with real jobs must to make that kind of money. (And it's nothing to do with risk to life and limb and violence; else combat pay would dwarf police pay, and it does not even come close.)

    Replies: @Hibernian, @International Jew, @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Keep in mind we’re talking about California.

  59. @istevefan
    @El Dato

    Was anything similar said when the priest was beheaded at the altar a couple years ago?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Hibernian

    The majority of Catholics in France who are truly active and orthodox are Traditionalists.

    , @istevefan
    @Hibernian


    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.
     
    How many Jews are there in France compared to active Catholics?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  60. If this “North African” had merely killed an ordinary non-Jewish Frenchwoman, would we be reading big articles about it in the New York Times and the Washington Post?

  61. A second question: In the United States, Jewish organizations lobbied for decades to overturn the restrictive immigration laws of the 1920s. Since 1965, they have often been among the most critical of white Americans’ racism, xenophobia, unwillingness to welcome immigrants et cetera. Is the same true for French immigration?

  62. Abe says: • Website
    @Autochthon
    @Lot

    Dude spent three or four months incarcerated after supplying arms to break a convicted terrorist out of prison. In the U.S.A. people spend more time in gaol for stealing hubcaps, screwing up taxes or securities filings, and selling weed to their friends. In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    Replies: @Abe, @Brutusale, @ScarletNumber

    In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    The problem with us conservatives is that we’re generally happy, well-adjusted, functional people, and so don’t have that flair for the dramatic which the truly miserable and desperate do. Take the case of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, disgraced DNC mucketty-muck who was thrown out for a bit too much “I’m (rigging the primaries) With Her!” And yet she is having a Travolta/Bruce Willis-level career resurgence by astroturfing this whole RUN FOR OUR LIVES children’s crusade from behind the scenes* like some obsessive theater mom (Wasserman has three relatively young kids, so the analogy is apt). I’m sure when Hollywood gets around to telling the true story of this there’ll be a crazy musical montage of her making phone calls, decorating poster board signs, etc., all while trying not to burn dinner for her family on the night of the shootings, when the total body count is yet unclear due to the critically wounded who still made it to the hospital (Beat Sandyhook! Beat Sandyhook! Awwwwww…)

    Anyway, if we had any sense we’d be making a YUGE deal out of the fact that in Canada, Britain, and the EU-zone they are routinely jailing people for speech crimes. Trump’s State Dept. should make this an international relations issue, saying the US will reconsider all manner of ties with speech-oppressive regimes, and give political asylum to speech dissidents. We should also set up a special refugee program for working class English white girls on the grounds they live in a state which tacitly condones their sex-trafficking (not far-fetched at all given that the Obama/Power-era State Dept was going to let in any Guatemalan who claimed a history of DOMESTIC abuse as a refugee).

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Abe

    The English victims of Paki rape gangs certainly did not deserve the crimes against them, but they tend to come from England's welfare class, and we don't need any more people filling up the welfare rolls here.

    , @schnellandine
    @Abe

    Re political drama queens, if haven't read Unabomber manifesto since publication, a revisit can be a shock. In first 10 or so paragraphs he explains accurately the leftist ailment now in its catalytic tech-hived form.

    Replies: @Seneca44

  63. @Autochthon
    @Lot

    What a racket. The popular conception that police are hardworking, plain folks is just preposterous nowadays when this kind of remuneration is not at all uncommon, especially when one considers most of these characters aren't even salaried, so they put in nothing near the grueling efforts people with real jobs must to make that kind of money. (And it's nothing to do with risk to life and limb and violence; else combat pay would dwarf police pay, and it does not even come close.)

    Replies: @Hibernian, @International Jew, @The preferred nomenclature is...

    $125/year is juat their nominal pay. At age 50 they can retire at a pension equal to 3% times their “years of service”. It’s been that way in California since about 2000. Before, it was 2%.

  64. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Heavily armed “Frenchman” Coulibaly:

  65. @Abe
    @Autochthon


    In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.
     
    The problem with us conservatives is that we’re generally happy, well-adjusted, functional people, and so don’t have that flair for the dramatic which the truly miserable and desperate do. Take the case of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, disgraced DNC mucketty-muck who was thrown out for a bit too much “I’m (rigging the primaries) With Her!” And yet she is having a Travolta/Bruce Willis-level career resurgence by astroturfing this whole RUN FOR OUR LIVES children’s crusade from behind the scenes* like some obsessive theater mom (Wasserman has three relatively young kids, so the analogy is apt). I’m sure when Hollywood gets around to telling the true story of this there’ll be a crazy musical montage of her making phone calls, decorating poster board signs, etc., all while trying not to burn dinner for her family on the night of the shootings, when the total body count is yet unclear due to the critically wounded who still made it to the hospital (Beat Sandyhook! Beat Sandyhook! Awwwwww...)

    Anyway, if we had any sense we’d be making a YUGE deal out of the fact that in Canada, Britain, and the EU-zone they are routinely jailing people for speech crimes. Trump’s State Dept. should make this an international relations issue, saying the US will reconsider all manner of ties with speech-oppressive regimes, and give political asylum to speech dissidents. We should also set up a special refugee program for working class English white girls on the grounds they live in a state which tacitly condones their sex-trafficking (not far-fetched at all given that the Obama/Power-era State Dept was going to let in any Guatemalan who claimed a history of DOMESTIC abuse as a refugee).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @schnellandine

    The English victims of Paki rape gangs certainly did not deserve the crimes against them, but they tend to come from England’s welfare class, and we don’t need any more people filling up the welfare rolls here.

  66. The reporter labeled Amedy Coulibaly [a Malian Muslim] a “Frenchman,” so one wonders why the reporter bothered to mention that the alleged murderer of Ms. Knoll is of North African origin at all.

  67. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/03/and-we-are-supposed-to-care.html
    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies [sic] that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”
    – (((Barbara Lerner Spectre)))
    Care? Why?

  68. Anonymous[915] • Disclaimer says:

    “Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman”

    As the French cops asked my sister when she was robbed, “were they French or foreign?” My sister, apparently thinking this was some liberal trick question, responded she couldn’t know. The cop’s rejoinder was to look at her for five seconds and just repeat, “Were they French or not?” to which she finally answered, “No.” Miraculously (at least to this American), based on that information (ie, “urban youths just robbed us”) the police both arrested the criminals and recovered the stolen items.

  69. This is a small price to pay or globalism and diversity.

  70. Anonymous[915] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, your final paragraph reminds me of Chomsky’s description of Harvard:

    “For instance, I remember there was a lot of anglophilia at Harvard at the
    time -you were supposed to wear British clothes, and pretend you spoke
    with a British accent, that sort of stuff. In fact, there were actually guys
    there who I thought were British, who had never been outside of the United States. If any of you have studied literature or history or something, you
    might recognize some of this, those are the places you usually find it. Well,
    somehow I managed to survive that, I don’t know how exactly-but most
    didn’t. And what I discovered is that a large part of education at the really
    elite institutions is simply refinement, teaching the social graces: what kind of clothes you should wear, how to drink port the right way, how to have polite conversation without talking about serious topics, but of course indicating that you could talk about serious topics if you were so vulgar as to actually do it, all kinds of things which an intellectual is supposed to know how to do. And that was really the main point of the program, I think.”

  71. @Autochthon
    @Lot

    Dude spent three or four months incarcerated after supplying arms to break a convicted terrorist out of prison. In the U.S.A. people spend more time in gaol for stealing hubcaps, screwing up taxes or securities filings, and selling weed to their friends. In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    Replies: @Abe, @Brutusale, @ScarletNumber

    There’s a guy (a Polish Illegal) in a Boston courtroom right now facing SIXTY YEARS in prison for animal abuse.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/03/radoslaw_czerkawski_faces_up_to_60_years_in_prison

    The guy deserves time, but 60 years?

    Meanwhile, the MA penalty for manslaughter? From the criminal code:

    Section 13. Whoever commits manslaughter shall, except as hereinafter provided, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than twenty years or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars and imprisonment in jail or a house of correction for not more than two and one half years. Whoever commits manslaughter while violating the provisions of sections 102 to 102C, inclusive, of chapter 266 shall be imprisoned in the state prison for life or for any term of years.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Brutusale

    Whoah, Kimosabe!

    - Hell, yes, sixty years. Especially since the prosecutors know good and well the guy is unlikely to actually serve anything but a percentage of that time. Besides, any guy who gets his kicks smashing the bones, poking the eyes, and cutting the tongues of puppies? Sixty years in prison is too good for him. I'd like to tie this tough guy up in an old trailer from U-Haul, park it in the wilderness of Wyoming, and come visit him for about an hour every day to feed him and show him all the cool things I can do with my hand-tools.

    - You are citing Massachusetts' sentencing statute for involuntary manslaughter. A person who, say, accidentally drives his car into another or, in a blind rage, beats another man caught in flagrante delicto with his wife so badly the other fellow dies absolutely deserves less punishment than the son of a bitch gleefully snapping the bones and cutting the tongues of puppies.

    I don't know your own background, and I don't mean to condescend, since even experts in jurisprudence may share your (apparent) opinions that, say, torturing beasts is not half so bad as involuntary manslaughter, but I find most people who make these kinds of comparisons and contrasts don't actually understand the underlying nuances (for example, the overwhelming majority of laypersons could not tell you the difference between manslaughter and murder, or among various degrees of murder (which are themselves defined slightly differently in many jurisdictions notwithstanding the traction of uniform codes...), nor even the difference between robbery and theft.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

  72. Jews are as suicidal as are post-Christian Western Liberals.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Jake


    Jews are as suicidal as are post-Christian Western Liberals.
     
    Lol, that is not even close to true.

    I can only wish that Europeans were half as "suicidal" as Jews. I'll even settle for a quarter.
  73. @Hibernian
    @istevefan

    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.

    Replies: @Jake, @istevefan

    The majority of Catholics in France who are truly active and orthodox are Traditionalists.

  74. @Abe
    @Autochthon


    In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.
     
    The problem with us conservatives is that we’re generally happy, well-adjusted, functional people, and so don’t have that flair for the dramatic which the truly miserable and desperate do. Take the case of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, disgraced DNC mucketty-muck who was thrown out for a bit too much “I’m (rigging the primaries) With Her!” And yet she is having a Travolta/Bruce Willis-level career resurgence by astroturfing this whole RUN FOR OUR LIVES children’s crusade from behind the scenes* like some obsessive theater mom (Wasserman has three relatively young kids, so the analogy is apt). I’m sure when Hollywood gets around to telling the true story of this there’ll be a crazy musical montage of her making phone calls, decorating poster board signs, etc., all while trying not to burn dinner for her family on the night of the shootings, when the total body count is yet unclear due to the critically wounded who still made it to the hospital (Beat Sandyhook! Beat Sandyhook! Awwwwww...)

    Anyway, if we had any sense we’d be making a YUGE deal out of the fact that in Canada, Britain, and the EU-zone they are routinely jailing people for speech crimes. Trump’s State Dept. should make this an international relations issue, saying the US will reconsider all manner of ties with speech-oppressive regimes, and give political asylum to speech dissidents. We should also set up a special refugee program for working class English white girls on the grounds they live in a state which tacitly condones their sex-trafficking (not far-fetched at all given that the Obama/Power-era State Dept was going to let in any Guatemalan who claimed a history of DOMESTIC abuse as a refugee).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @schnellandine

    Re political drama queens, if haven’t read Unabomber manifesto since publication, a revisit can be a shock. In first 10 or so paragraphs he explains accurately the leftist ailment now in its catalytic tech-hived form.

    • Agree: Highlander
    • Replies: @Seneca44
    @schnellandine

    Yes, it was surprisingly coherent. I didn't get any particular desire to make and mail bombs, but some of Mr. Kaczynski's observations were spot on

  75. @Jimi Shmendrix
    @celt darnell

    There is no "the Jews".

    Replies: @Neuday

    There is no “the Jews”.

    But there sure are a helluva lot of coincidences.

  76. @Lot
    @International Jew

    One of the officers was black and the other white. They were making about 125k a year in their early 30's.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Autochthon, @roo_ster

    $125k/year in their 30’s? I know experienced engineers that don;t pull down that kind of scratch.

    What does Derbyshire say? “GET A GOVERNMENT JOB!”

  77. @Autochthon
    @Lot

    What a racket. The popular conception that police are hardworking, plain folks is just preposterous nowadays when this kind of remuneration is not at all uncommon, especially when one considers most of these characters aren't even salaried, so they put in nothing near the grueling efforts people with real jobs must to make that kind of money. (And it's nothing to do with risk to life and limb and violence; else combat pay would dwarf police pay, and it does not even come close.)

    Replies: @Hibernian, @International Jew, @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Agreed. Public servant my ass. Yeah, the public are their servants now.

  78. @Anonymous
    @International Jew

    Wikipedia (always 100 percent accurate) says:


    The officers

    The Sacramento Police department stated that they would release the names of the officers who carried out the shooting within 10 days of the event. On March 23, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris stated that the officers who had shot and killed Clark were Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet. One day earlier, another source told the Sacramento Bee that Mercadal was one of the shooters. The Sacramento Police Department did not confirm the attorney's statement and said that both officers had received death threats.

    Mercadel attended Laguna Creek High School in Elk Grove. He was an officer in Olive Branch, Mississippi near Memphis, where he also managed a personal training company. In 2015 Mercadel attended an officer training program in Oakland, and served as a community service officer in Sacramento. He was hired as an officer by Sacramento Police Department in 2016. At the time of Clark's shooting, Mercadel was a patrol officer in Meadowview, the location where Clark was shot. Robinet was hired by the Sacramento Police Department in 2014.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist

    Meadowview area used to be a black ghetto. I thought the Mexicans had taken over, but apparently not.

  79. @schnellandine
    @Abe

    Re political drama queens, if haven't read Unabomber manifesto since publication, a revisit can be a shock. In first 10 or so paragraphs he explains accurately the leftist ailment now in its catalytic tech-hived form.

    Replies: @Seneca44

    Yes, it was surprisingly coherent. I didn’t get any particular desire to make and mail bombs, but some of Mr. Kaczynski’s observations were spot on

  80. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Not just comically short prison sentences.

    I know some migrants in Paris who committed crimes within a few months of their arrival. The cops just let them off with a warning. Most of the times when they riot or create a scene, the goal of cops is to deescalate situation and just to get them away. They do not try to arrest them out of fear creating a huge riot (unless it is a serious crime).

    France informally has a two tier-legal system, one for native French, second for “vibrants”. While we are still not as bad as American or British, perhaps because we do not speak English, banker Macron would like to turn France into UK 2.0.

  81. istevefan says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

    Usually highbrow publications like the NY Times like to keep certain words or phrases in their original language, especially French ones, to show how sophisticated they are. It forces dullards like me to consult the dictionary.

    Hasn’t ‘allahu akbar’ passed over to the point where it should logically be left in its original form? Just like charge d’affaires, coup d’état and a myriad of other foreign expressions, ‘allahu akbar’ should not be translated into English.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @istevefan

    Allahu akbar means G-d is GREATER or GREATEST in Arabic. This is the so-called elative form which can be understood as corresponding to the comparative and superlative in Western languages.

    Arabic does have another form of the adjective to say simply that Allah is "great" without implying a comparison: Allahu kabir Note that the consonants are the same as in akbar but different vowels are inserted as is typical of Semitic languages.

    Replies: @istevefan

  82. The New York Times is unintentionally anti-Semitic here. Does a Jew’s life matter? If it doesn’t, then there is no moral issue with making this murder into a joke or a political coupon-card punch. If you think that the safety of Jewish people is important, then you don’t want to see misattributions and the burial of relevant facts.

  83. “She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime”

    As someone noted in a comment at Vox Day, the article specifically notes that victim Mirielle Knoll was never arrested or held in a concentration camp – the traditional meaning for “survivor of the Holocaust.” She merely lived in France at the time others were arrested. So by the Times’ new definition, any Jew alive anywhere from 1940-1945 is a Holocaust survivor. And we know their children suffered trauma from having parents who suffered trauma (third generation holocaust survivor), so the goyim guilt and goodies train rides on forever, without end. Oy vey.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @3g4me

    From Israel's perspective:

    ***

    Of the 186,500 survivors in Israel today, about 57,500 are survivors from the ghettos, hideouts, labor camps and concentration camps, with 77% of the survivors originating in European countries, a plurality – 32% – from Romania.

    “These are people who have seen the worst, who were in ghettos and concentration camps, who made it through Auschwitz and death marches but who don’t have money for medical treatments, nursing care and even food,” she said.

    An additional 101,000 lived in countries under Nazi rule, of whom 55% were born in North Africa, primarily Morocco, Tunisia and Libya, and some 28,100 were refugees, of whom 76% were born in the Soviet Union, the report found.

    Members of these three groups have been defined by various official government and private entities as Holocaust survivors, and as such are entitled to receive rights and benefits, according to the report.

    “A Holocaust survivor is a person who lived in one of the countries occupied by or under the direct influence of the Nazi regime between 1933 and 1945, and/or refugees who were forced to leave their homes due to the Nazi regime,” the report states.

    ***

    http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Only-26200-Holocaust-survivors-will-be-living-in-Israel-by-2035-539668

    They are expecting only 26,200 Holocaust survivors, in Israel alone, to be surviving still in 2035-- 90 years after the war ended!

    From the United States' perspective:

    ***

    Estimates of the number of remaining survivors vary greatly and depend in part on how one defines a survivor. The Museum honors as survivors any persons, Jewish or non-Jewish, who were displaced, persecuted, or discriminated against due to the racial, religious, ethnic, and political policies of the Nazis and their allies between 1933 and 1945. In addition to former inmates of concentration camps, ghettos, and prisons, this definition includes, among others, people who were refugees or were in hiding.

    ***

    https://www.ushmm.org/remember/the-holocaust-survivors-and-victims-resource-center/benjamin-and-vladka-meed-registry-of-holocaust-survivors/registry-faq#9

    As I recall, an Israeli organization estimated that there were still over a million holocaust survivors, in the world at large, as of (I believe) January 1, 2004-- nearly six decades after the end of the war! So, how many millions of survivors must there have been, on V.E. Day in May 1945, for there to have been over a million such still surviving, nearly sixty years later?

    , @Gandydancer
    @3g4me

    3g4me says:
    March 27, 2018 at 4:21 pm GMT • 100 Words

    “She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime”

    "As someone noted in a comment at Vox Day, the article specifically notes that victim Mirielle Knoll was never arrested or held in a concentration camp – the traditional meaning for “survivor of the Holocaust.” She merely lived in France at the time others were arrested."

    "[M]erely lived in France"? No, she and her parents were summoned to assemble at a sports stadium. Those who complied largely died at Auschwitz. But she was able to escape the country on a Brazilian passport. Sounds like "survived" to me.

  84. anonymous[162] • Disclaimer says:

    DailyMail, as usual, puts the fact that the perp screamed the usual AA in it’s headline, right up front. Takes a British tabloid to find out what is going on whereas American media engages in it’s usual lies and spin.

  85. @Jake
    Jews are as suicidal as are post-Christian Western Liberals.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Jews are as suicidal as are post-Christian Western Liberals.

    Lol, that is not even close to true.

    I can only wish that Europeans were half as “suicidal” as Jews. I’ll even settle for a quarter.

  86. @1661er
    @Lot

    Western Europe have a huge issue of prison radicalization. Their responses are hampered by their ideological opposition to solitary confinements. Instead of thought and prayers, maybe US politicians should offer them the blueprint of ADX Florence, where there are no know instanced of prisoners became radicalized by other inmates.

    Or maybe French should just dust off the old blue print for the Devil's Island from the book/movies"Papillon." It seemed to had worked for France. There will be a new movie remake of the stories. So that should remind them that France used to have an effective penal system.

    Replies: @Lot

    ADX Florence is too expensive a model. Turkey may have some cheaper designs.

    EU should build prisons in its poor countries to boost their economies. Holland for example does not have room for any big new prisons.

    But they won’t, because if they had good sense like that they wouldn’t be importing millions of third world Muslims in the first place.

  87. From the upside down New York Times: John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

    It is official now. A living former Supreme Court Justice is telling us to shred The Bill of Rights. The New York Times is his megaphone.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Overturning that decision via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple...
     
    If the NYT is going to hire a necromancer then dig up and animate the corpse of Roland Freisler, at least they could avoid bungling his writing credit. Notable scientific achievement, and they defame a former SC justice. Clods.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I didn't know Stevens was still alive. When was the last time he wrote anything or anybody saw him in public?

    Stevens was in that quantum Schrodinger's celebrity-state where he could either be alive or dead. Somebody must have looked him up on Wikipedia and flipped the state. Now we're stuck with him.

    Here's a list of Schrodinger's celebrities.

    Click the link to flip their states--good luck celebrities!

    Replies: @Corn

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I was watching the television news and they had on an attack on homemade gun manufacture; the BATF spokesman actually started off with: 'They are marketing these guns to FELONS.'

    We need to start cutting ATF's budget; their spokesman are always attacking gun rights.

    , @istevefan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    This is great news that such a prominent legal figure as Stevens showed the cards of the "ban-the-AR-15 crowd" in the nations' paper. Now you can readily discuss that the other side wants to remove the entire 2nd Amendment, not just the AR-15, and point to this man's op-ed and its platform as proof that this is the mainstream opinion of the other side.

    If the GOP were smart they would immediately make ads with this guy's picture, his former position clearly labeled and his own words to show what's in store for us.

    This should help crack into that chuck of the 40% of the white vote who still votes democrat. I know a white democrat in particular who always accuses guys like me of being conspiracy theorists for saying the left wants to ban guns. Now Stephens has provided some tangible evidence.

  88. Anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Usually highbrow publications like the NY Times like to keep certain words or phrases in their original language, especially French ones, to show how sophisticated they are. It forces dullards like me to consult the dictionary.

    Hasn't 'allahu akbar' passed over to the point where it should logically be left in its original form? Just like charge d'affaires, coup d'état and a myriad of other foreign expressions, 'allahu akbar' should not be translated into English.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Allahu akbar means G-d is GREATER or GREATEST in Arabic. This is the so-called elative form which can be understood as corresponding to the comparative and superlative in Western languages.

    Arabic does have another form of the adjective to say simply that Allah is “great” without implying a comparison: Allahu kabir Note that the consonants are the same as in akbar but different vowels are inserted as is typical of Semitic languages.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @Anonymous

    I am not familiar with Arabic or its forms. But suffice it to say that Allah is understood by non-Arabic speakers worldwide by now and does not need to be translated into the local language. So whichever form they use, they really don't need to change Allah for English readers.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato

  89. Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @International Jew


    Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!
     
    .enil dooG
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @International Jew

    We start reading on the left because we know that's where all your ideas are.

    I remember meeting an Orthodox Jewish man on a business flight back in the mid-1990s. He was curious about the laptop computer my company had provided me. Those were still sort of a novelty then.

    When I showed him how I could type things in different fonts and languages, he asked if my computer had Hebrew. I found Hebrew and let him type something. As he typed, the characters appeared from left to right, and we laughed. He said everything was correct but going in the wrong direction.

    , @Mishra
    @International Jew


    If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!
     
    Good point! This proves that all the evidence is wrong.

    Replies: @International Jew

  90. @3g4me
    "She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime"

    As someone noted in a comment at Vox Day, the article specifically notes that victim Mirielle Knoll was never arrested or held in a concentration camp - the traditional meaning for "survivor of the Holocaust." She merely lived in France at the time others were arrested. So by the Times' new definition, any Jew alive anywhere from 1940-1945 is a Holocaust survivor. And we know their children suffered trauma from having parents who suffered trauma (third generation holocaust survivor), so the goyim guilt and goodies train rides on forever, without end. Oy vey.

    Replies: @D. K., @Gandydancer

    From Israel’s perspective:

    ***

    Of the 186,500 survivors in Israel today, about 57,500 are survivors from the ghettos, hideouts, labor camps and concentration camps, with 77% of the survivors originating in European countries, a plurality – 32% – from Romania.

    “These are people who have seen the worst, who were in ghettos and concentration camps, who made it through Auschwitz and death marches but who don’t have money for medical treatments, nursing care and even food,” she said.

    An additional 101,000 lived in countries under Nazi rule, of whom 55% were born in North Africa, primarily Morocco, Tunisia and Libya, and some 28,100 were refugees, of whom 76% were born in the Soviet Union, the report found.

    Members of these three groups have been defined by various official government and private entities as Holocaust survivors, and as such are entitled to receive rights and benefits, according to the report.

    “A Holocaust survivor is a person who lived in one of the countries occupied by or under the direct influence of the Nazi regime between 1933 and 1945, and/or refugees who were forced to leave their homes due to the Nazi regime,” the report states.

    ***

    http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Only-26200-Holocaust-survivors-will-be-living-in-Israel-by-2035-539668

    They are expecting only 26,200 Holocaust survivors, in Israel alone, to be surviving still in 2035– 90 years after the war ended!

    From the United States’ perspective:

    ***

    Estimates of the number of remaining survivors vary greatly and depend in part on how one defines a survivor. The Museum honors as survivors any persons, Jewish or non-Jewish, who were displaced, persecuted, or discriminated against due to the racial, religious, ethnic, and political policies of the Nazis and their allies between 1933 and 1945. In addition to former inmates of concentration camps, ghettos, and prisons, this definition includes, among others, people who were refugees or were in hiding.

    ***

    https://www.ushmm.org/remember/the-holocaust-survivors-and-victims-resource-center/benjamin-and-vladka-meed-registry-of-holocaust-survivors/registry-faq#9

    As I recall, an Israeli organization estimated that there were still over a million holocaust survivors, in the world at large, as of (I believe) January 1, 2004– nearly six decades after the end of the war! So, how many millions of survivors must there have been, on V.E. Day in May 1945, for there to have been over a million such still surviving, nearly sixty years later?

  91. @Buzz Mohawk
    From the upside down New York Times: John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

    It is official now. A living former Supreme Court Justice is telling us to shred The Bill of Rights. The New York Times is his megaphone.

    https://tmq2.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/distress-american-flag.gif

    Replies: @schnellandine, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Joe Stalin, @istevefan

    Overturning that decision via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple…

    If the NYT is going to hire a necromancer then dig up and animate the corpse of Roland Freisler, at least they could avoid bungling his writing credit. Notable scientific achievement, and they defame a former SC justice. Clods.

  92. @International Jew
    Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we'd make you read right-to-left!

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Buzz Mohawk, @Mishra

    Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!

    .enil dooG

  93. The New York Times can be an extremely informative news source, but often only if you have the time and reading speed to read deep into the articles where the important facts are sequestered.:

    Fortunately, we have you to do that for us. My reading is fine, but the aggravation isn’t good for my health.

  94. @Buzz Mohawk
    From the upside down New York Times: John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

    It is official now. A living former Supreme Court Justice is telling us to shred The Bill of Rights. The New York Times is his megaphone.

    https://tmq2.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/distress-american-flag.gif

    Replies: @schnellandine, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Joe Stalin, @istevefan

    I didn’t know Stevens was still alive. When was the last time he wrote anything or anybody saw him in public?

    Stevens was in that quantum Schrodinger’s celebrity-state where he could either be alive or dead. Somebody must have looked him up on Wikipedia and flipped the state. Now we’re stuck with him.

    Here’s a list of Schrodinger’s celebrities.

    Click the link to flip their states–good luck celebrities!

    • Replies: @Corn
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Stevens is 97 years old. I wonder if he was cogent enough to write this himself or if an ex-clerk wrote it?

    Disturbing to see though.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bernie

  95. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill B.
    The earlier, thinly reported (even in the French press), Sarah Halimi case was awful. Her young Muslim neighbour beat for hours even with three policemen outside her door. The blows were so hard they could be heard by her other neigbours.

    Eventually he threw the old lady out a fourth floor window.

    I have yet to read an explanation of why the police did not go in when she was clearing being slowly put to death.

    Replies: @a reader, @Anon

    Since Jews insist on being pro-Muslim in France, it may be that the French natives (in this case, the police) have decided that if Jews want this, it’s their problem and their problem alone.

    I have no doubt that when the police responded, they knew which apartment it was, and they had the owner’s name in their computers before they arrived. They knew she was Jewish from her last name, and had a good idea of what was going on from the outside.

    To put it bluntly, the only way the French police are going to make the French public wake up is to allow the bodies to accumulate until the French public decides enough is enough, and finally decides to expel the Muslim invaders.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    What you describe there doesn't sound like Police.

    , @Jimi Shmendrix
    @Anon

    Jews are pro-Muslim in France? That must come as a surprise to the record numbers of French Jews immigrating to Israel in recent years, due to the Islamic influx.

  96. @International Jew
    Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we'd make you read right-to-left!

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Buzz Mohawk, @Mishra

    We start reading on the left because we know that’s where all your ideas are.

    I remember meeting an Orthodox Jewish man on a business flight back in the mid-1990s. He was curious about the laptop computer my company had provided me. Those were still sort of a novelty then.

    When I showed him how I could type things in different fonts and languages, he asked if my computer had Hebrew. I found Hebrew and let him type something. As he typed, the characters appeared from left to right, and we laughed. He said everything was correct but going in the wrong direction.

  97. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:

    Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman

    Hey hey NRA, how many kosher shoppers did you kill today

  98. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I didn't know Stevens was still alive. When was the last time he wrote anything or anybody saw him in public?

    Stevens was in that quantum Schrodinger's celebrity-state where he could either be alive or dead. Somebody must have looked him up on Wikipedia and flipped the state. Now we're stuck with him.

    Here's a list of Schrodinger's celebrities.

    Click the link to flip their states--good luck celebrities!

    Replies: @Corn

    Stevens is 97 years old. I wonder if he was cogent enough to write this himself or if an ex-clerk wrote it?

    Disturbing to see though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corn

    It's disturbing that the old bastard could still be on the Supreme Court if he hadn't decided to step down. There's no way our dysfunctional and rotten legislative branch would have impeached him.

    , @Bernie
    @Corn

    He will be 98 on April 20. Seriously.

  99. @D. K.
    One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because...?!?

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Olorin

    Because it is only owing to “anti-Semitism” that all Jews don’t live forever, silly.

    They’re “The Chosen,” remember. And that obviously means that any time they die, it’s because of the super-bad juju of “anti-Semitism.”

  100. @Buzz Mohawk
    From the upside down New York Times: John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

    It is official now. A living former Supreme Court Justice is telling us to shred The Bill of Rights. The New York Times is his megaphone.

    https://tmq2.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/distress-american-flag.gif

    Replies: @schnellandine, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Joe Stalin, @istevefan

    I was watching the television news and they had on an attack on homemade gun manufacture; the BATF spokesman actually started off with: ‘They are marketing these guns to FELONS.’

    We need to start cutting ATF’s budget; their spokesman are always attacking gun rights.

  101. @International Jew
    OT, awkward unarmed-black-man incident developing. Sacramento is all in an uproar, but no one's talking about who the policemen were, who shot Stephon Clark. We've got Sharpton, Burris, Trayvon's lawyer all converging, the mayor is apologizing, but nothing about the shooters. I'd bet alot of money they're not white, but over here there's no one who'd take the other side of that bet. (And no, I will not accept payment in tiny duck droppings.)

    Replies: @Lot, @SunBakedSuburb

    Stephon Clark has a record of felony arrests, assault and endangering the life of a child are among the charges. He was killed while prowling through his grandmother’s neighborhood at night, looking for stuff to steal. It’s too bad he had to die. But then again, his death means Golden State tax-payers won’t be on the hook for his future incarcerations.

  102. This analysis of the NYT raises the question of whether they believe that the information about the ethnic/national origin of the murderers is important and are trying to hide it, or if they simply believe that it isn’t relevant. If they follow the “inverted pyramid” model of journalistic writing faithfully, it must be that they think the info is not very significant.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism)

    But they can’t really think that. They are comfortable calling it a “hate crime,” but since the very idea of a “hate crime” is all about motive, it is very awkward that they can’t just come out and say what the motive apparently was.

    Also, Giant Duck has been found:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-43457112

  103. @Hippopotamusdrome


    man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window

     

    So he literally said "Dieu est grand"?

    Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim, @Xavier, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ChrisZ, @istevefan, @pyrrhus

    But remember, the attackers were Frenchmen, indistinguishable from Camus and Moliere….

  104. @Hibernian
    @istevefan

    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.

    Replies: @Jake, @istevefan

    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.

    How many Jews are there in France compared to active Catholics?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @istevefan

    My guess is that the numbers are about the same, or at least in the same ballpark.

  105. istevefan says:
    @Anonymous
    @istevefan

    Allahu akbar means G-d is GREATER or GREATEST in Arabic. This is the so-called elative form which can be understood as corresponding to the comparative and superlative in Western languages.

    Arabic does have another form of the adjective to say simply that Allah is "great" without implying a comparison: Allahu kabir Note that the consonants are the same as in akbar but different vowels are inserted as is typical of Semitic languages.

    Replies: @istevefan

    I am not familiar with Arabic or its forms. But suffice it to say that Allah is understood by non-Arabic speakers worldwide by now and does not need to be translated into the local language. So whichever form they use, they really don’t need to change Allah for English readers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @istevefan

    Heres an example of why it shouldn't be translated: when Anglosphere terrorists--most of whom do not speak Arabic--make English language propaganda videos in chav accents for English-speaking audiences, they use "allah" among other Arabic words. "Jihad" is another, of course, and I've noticed the word "infidel" is never used. I've seen "unbeliever" in some contexts but never "infidel."

    ISIS had a high quality English language magazine. It's time to get with the program and understand that "hijrah" "kuffar" "rafidi" "al-sham" "takbir" "fitnah" and other words are important to know.

    Replies: @istevefan

    , @El Dato
    @istevefan


    Allah for English readers.
     
    Hmmm.... I sense a weekly magazine opportunity.
  106. istevefan says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    From the upside down New York Times: John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

    It is official now. A living former Supreme Court Justice is telling us to shred The Bill of Rights. The New York Times is his megaphone.

    https://tmq2.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/distress-american-flag.gif

    Replies: @schnellandine, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Joe Stalin, @istevefan

    This is great news that such a prominent legal figure as Stevens showed the cards of the “ban-the-AR-15 crowd” in the nations’ paper. Now you can readily discuss that the other side wants to remove the entire 2nd Amendment, not just the AR-15, and point to this man’s op-ed and its platform as proof that this is the mainstream opinion of the other side.

    If the GOP were smart they would immediately make ads with this guy’s picture, his former position clearly labeled and his own words to show what’s in store for us.

    This should help crack into that chuck of the 40% of the white vote who still votes democrat. I know a white democrat in particular who always accuses guys like me of being conspiracy theorists for saying the left wants to ban guns. Now Stephens has provided some tangible evidence.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  107. The account of the murder in Der Standard, an establishment type newspaper in Austria, was actually pretty clear about who was to blame right at the start of the article, and then went into the changing face of anti-Semitism in France. (used to be the standard issue bad guys, now its non-white Moslems).

  108. Anonymous[915] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    @Anonymous

    I am not familiar with Arabic or its forms. But suffice it to say that Allah is understood by non-Arabic speakers worldwide by now and does not need to be translated into the local language. So whichever form they use, they really don't need to change Allah for English readers.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato

    Heres an example of why it shouldn’t be translated: when Anglosphere terrorists–most of whom do not speak Arabic–make English language propaganda videos in chav accents for English-speaking audiences, they use “allah” among other Arabic words. “Jihad” is another, of course, and I’ve noticed the word “infidel” is never used. I’ve seen “unbeliever” in some contexts but never “infidel.”

    ISIS had a high quality English language magazine. It’s time to get with the program and understand that “hijrah” “kuffar” “rafidi” “al-sham” “takbir” “fitnah” and other words are important to know.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @Anonymous


    I’ve noticed the word “infidel” is never used. I’ve seen “unbeliever” in some contexts but never “infidel.”
     
    Speaking of 'infidel" isn't that one of our words that we had for unbelievers in years past?
  109. An as MBA, I’m disappointed you didn’t make an analogy to financial statements. The best parts are in the footnotes.

  110. Meanwhile, gibs:

    Israel praises ‘record’ $705mn missile defense funding from Washington

    (Photo of rapt Pelosi being obviously charmed by Jews elided)

    The Israeli defense minister hailed the US’ hefty contribution to the missile defense program, thanking Washington for its $705 million in aid – $558 million more than Israel’s initial request.

    I am pleased to announce that the US Congress has approved a record amount for missile defense: $705 million in 2018,” Avigdor Liberman tweeted. “We will continue to develop the multi-layered missile defense system. Our enemies who try to hurt us will be surprised by the capabilities we have developed.”

    So a I guess blowing a a cool million USD on Iron Dome rocketry in 15 seconds because someone thought he saw a tube rocket raise out of the Palestino-Ghetto as happened recently is not that big a deal.

    No rockets were actually fired, and an army official said the situation with Gaza remained normal — or “routine,” in army parlance.

    Yeah. I wonder where these rockets come down once burnt out?

  111. Expanding on Sailer:

    NYTimes: “Other anti-Semitic crimes that have rattled France include the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman, who killed four people…”

    The Telegraph: “The terrorist introduced himself to us. He was strangely calm. ‘I am Amedy Coulibaly, Malian and Muslim. I belong to the Islamic State,’ he told us.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11338026/Amid-the-terror-a-hero-who-lost-his-life-by-fighting-back.html

    NYTimes: “…the murder last year of Sarah Halimi, an elderly Jewish woman, by a man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window.”

    Wikipedia: “…calls came in to the police emergency hotline reporting a woman screaming as a man apparently beat her and shouted “shut your mouth”, ALLAHU AKBAR, and “I killed the Shaitan” (the demon, or Satan, in Arabic).[5][8][5][4]”

    Btw, I had to switch browsers to post this, as Chrome (at least the version on my computer) insists on bringing up a barely functional mobile version of this page. Any idea why?

  112. @istevefan
    @Anonymous

    I am not familiar with Arabic or its forms. But suffice it to say that Allah is understood by non-Arabic speakers worldwide by now and does not need to be translated into the local language. So whichever form they use, they really don't need to change Allah for English readers.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @El Dato

    Allah for English readers.

    Hmmm…. I sense a weekly magazine opportunity.

  113. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    When a society is no longer willing to either execute or expel people who flout its laws, norms, standards–or are just parasites upon the productive within it–it ceases to be any sort of community or nation and is on a slide–long or short–to being a barbarous dystopia.

    Exact norms can vary, but civilization requires some sort of demand that its citizens actually be civilized.

  114. @Lot
    The New York Times:

    the 2015 attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by Amedy Coulibaly, a heavily armed Frenchman
     
    Wikipedia:

    Coulibaly was born in Juvisy-sur-Orge, a suburb south-east of Paris, into a Malian Muslim immigrant family. He was the only boy, with nine sisters.

    Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted five times for armed robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection".

    In 2004, Coulibaly was sentenced to six years in Fleury-Mérogis Prison for armed bank robbery. There, he met Chérif Kouachi. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam in prison at the same time as Chérif. In prison he also met al-Qaeda recruiter Djamel Beghal, who was in "isolation" in the cell above him but whom he was nevertheless able to communicate with. He later said that his discovery of Islam in prison changed him

    in May 2010 police arrested him and searched his apartment. They found ammunition, a crossbow, and letters seeking false official documents. Coulibaly maintained that he was planning to sell the ammunition on the street. In December 2013 he was sentenced to five years in prison for supplying ammunition for a plot to break out from prison radical French-Algerian Islamist Smain Ait Ali Belkacem (who had planned the 1995 Paris Métro and RER bombings), a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early from Villepinte prison outside Paris, in March 2014
     
    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @1661er, @Jack D, @rogue-one, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad

    Comically short prison sentences for violent Muslims is something you see again and again in Western Europe.

    When a society is no longer willing to either execute or expel people who flout its laws, norms, standards–or are just parasites upon the productive within it–it ceases to be any sort of community or nation and is on a slide–long or short–to being a barbarous dystopia.

    Exact norms can vary, but civilization requires some sort of demand that its citizens actually be civilized.

  115. @Anon
    @Bill B.

    Since Jews insist on being pro-Muslim in France, it may be that the French natives (in this case, the police) have decided that if Jews want this, it's their problem and their problem alone.

    I have no doubt that when the police responded, they knew which apartment it was, and they had the owner's name in their computers before they arrived. They knew she was Jewish from her last name, and had a good idea of what was going on from the outside.

    To put it bluntly, the only way the French police are going to make the French public wake up is to allow the bodies to accumulate until the French public decides enough is enough, and finally decides to expel the Muslim invaders.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jimi Shmendrix

    What you describe there doesn’t sound like Police.

  116. @Anthony Wayne
    It's amazing how effective BSing like this can be. I was listening to a podcast I enjoy, and a guest described the Austin bomber as a "neo-nazi white supremacist." The hosts did not dispute his claim (why defend neo-nazis anyway?)

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    a guest described the Austin bomber as a “neo-nazi white supremacist.”

    As long as the descriptor “white” is accurate, the other adjective and noun apply automatically.

  117. @3g4me
    "She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime"

    As someone noted in a comment at Vox Day, the article specifically notes that victim Mirielle Knoll was never arrested or held in a concentration camp - the traditional meaning for "survivor of the Holocaust." She merely lived in France at the time others were arrested. So by the Times' new definition, any Jew alive anywhere from 1940-1945 is a Holocaust survivor. And we know their children suffered trauma from having parents who suffered trauma (third generation holocaust survivor), so the goyim guilt and goodies train rides on forever, without end. Oy vey.

    Replies: @D. K., @Gandydancer

    3g4me says:
    March 27, 2018 at 4:21 pm GMT • 100 Words

    “She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime”

    “As someone noted in a comment at Vox Day, the article specifically notes that victim Mirielle Knoll was never arrested or held in a concentration camp – the traditional meaning for “survivor of the Holocaust.” She merely lived in France at the time others were arrested.”

    “[M]erely lived in France”? No, she and her parents were summoned to assemble at a sports stadium. Those who complied largely died at Auschwitz. But she was able to escape the country on a Brazilian passport. Sounds like “survived” to me.

  118. @International Jew
    Upside down, huh? If we Jews really controlled the news media, we'd make you read right-to-left!

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Buzz Mohawk, @Mishra

    If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!

    Good point! This proves that all the evidence is wrong.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Mishra

    Evidence can't be wrong. The interpretation of that evidence is what can be wrong.

    Replies: @D. K.

  119. @Anonymous
    @istevefan

    Heres an example of why it shouldn't be translated: when Anglosphere terrorists--most of whom do not speak Arabic--make English language propaganda videos in chav accents for English-speaking audiences, they use "allah" among other Arabic words. "Jihad" is another, of course, and I've noticed the word "infidel" is never used. I've seen "unbeliever" in some contexts but never "infidel."

    ISIS had a high quality English language magazine. It's time to get with the program and understand that "hijrah" "kuffar" "rafidi" "al-sham" "takbir" "fitnah" and other words are important to know.

    Replies: @istevefan

    I’ve noticed the word “infidel” is never used. I’ve seen “unbeliever” in some contexts but never “infidel.”

    Speaking of ‘infidel” isn’t that one of our words that we had for unbelievers in years past?

  120. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corn
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Stevens is 97 years old. I wonder if he was cogent enough to write this himself or if an ex-clerk wrote it?

    Disturbing to see though.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bernie

    It’s disturbing that the old bastard could still be on the Supreme Court if he hadn’t decided to step down. There’s no way our dysfunctional and rotten legislative branch would have impeached him.

  121. @Autochthon
    @Lot

    Dude spent three or four months incarcerated after supplying arms to break a convicted terrorist out of prison. In the U.S.A. people spend more time in gaol for stealing hubcaps, screwing up taxes or securities filings, and selling weed to their friends. In Britain, however, the focus is on even more serious crimes.

    Replies: @Abe, @Brutusale, @ScarletNumber

    gaol

    Is this a word?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @ScarletNumber

    gaol: noun late thirteenth century, gayhol, from Old North French gaiole and Old French jaole, both meaning "cage; prison," from Medieval Latin gabiola, from Late Latin caveola, diminutive of Latin cavea "cage, enclosure, stall, coop" (see cave (n.)). Both this form (more commonly British) and jail (more commonly American) carried into Middle English and Modern English; both are now pronounced "jail" regardless of spelling.

    If they try to hold me for trial, I'll stay out of gaol by paying my bail; and after I'll go to the court of appeal saying 'You've done me wrong!' – it's the same old song, forever.... —Tony Banks, "Robbery, Assault, & Battery"

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @ScarletNumber

    British spelling, so yes. Noah Webster, when compiling his dictionary, made a big deal out of an Americanized orthography to distinguish "our" dialect of English from that of the hated Brits. It would not surprise me if the American spelling "jail" instead of the British "gaol" was an example of this practice.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ScarletNumber

  122. @Corn
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Stevens is 97 years old. I wonder if he was cogent enough to write this himself or if an ex-clerk wrote it?

    Disturbing to see though.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bernie

    He will be 98 on April 20. Seriously.

  123. Anonymous [AKA "Ytringsfriheten"] says:

    If you use Mail Online instead of New York Times, you do not need so much time (or high reading speed) to get important information. Here is the headline in Mail Online:

    Man accused of stabbing 85-year-old Jewish Holocaust survivor to death in ‘anti-Semitic attack’ at her Paris apartment ‘screamed “Allahu Akbar” while killing her’

  124. @Anon
    @Bill B.

    Since Jews insist on being pro-Muslim in France, it may be that the French natives (in this case, the police) have decided that if Jews want this, it's their problem and their problem alone.

    I have no doubt that when the police responded, they knew which apartment it was, and they had the owner's name in their computers before they arrived. They knew she was Jewish from her last name, and had a good idea of what was going on from the outside.

    To put it bluntly, the only way the French police are going to make the French public wake up is to allow the bodies to accumulate until the French public decides enough is enough, and finally decides to expel the Muslim invaders.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jimi Shmendrix

    Jews are pro-Muslim in France? That must come as a surprise to the record numbers of French Jews immigrating to Israel in recent years, due to the Islamic influx.

  125. @Frau Katze
    @anon

    I believe that a majority of France’s Jews come from Algeria.

    The European Ashkenzis were mostly killed in WW II. But there was a war over Algeria, after WW II, and many (likely most) Algerian Jews moved to France.

    So they may have Arabic surnames, not the Ashkenazi-style Germanic ones.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Most Jews in metropolitan France survived,* although between those who were killed and emigration to Israel they did lose most of their pre-war Jewish population.

    *In general, the further east in Nazi-occupied territory, the smaller the proportion of Jews who survived.

  126. @Brutusale
    @Autochthon

    There's a guy (a Polish Illegal) in a Boston courtroom right now facing SIXTY YEARS in prison for animal abuse.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/03/radoslaw_czerkawski_faces_up_to_60_years_in_prison

    The guy deserves time, but 60 years?

    Meanwhile, the MA penalty for manslaughter? From the criminal code:

    Section 13. Whoever commits manslaughter shall, except as hereinafter provided, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than twenty years or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars and imprisonment in jail or a house of correction for not more than two and one half years. Whoever commits manslaughter while violating the provisions of sections 102 to 102C, inclusive, of chapter 266 shall be imprisoned in the state prison for life or for any term of years.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Whoah, Kimosabe!

    – Hell, yes, sixty years. Especially since the prosecutors know good and well the guy is unlikely to actually serve anything but a percentage of that time. Besides, any guy who gets his kicks smashing the bones, poking the eyes, and cutting the tongues of puppies? Sixty years in prison is too good for him. I’d like to tie this tough guy up in an old trailer from U-Haul, park it in the wilderness of Wyoming, and come visit him for about an hour every day to feed him and show him all the cool things I can do with my hand-tools.

    – You are citing Massachusetts’ sentencing statute for involuntary manslaughter. A person who, say, accidentally drives his car into another or, in a blind rage, beats another man caught in flagrante delicto with his wife so badly the other fellow dies absolutely deserves less punishment than the son of a bitch gleefully snapping the bones and cutting the tongues of puppies.

    I don’t know your own background, and I don’t mean to condescend, since even experts in jurisprudence may share your (apparent) opinions that, say, torturing beasts is not half so bad as involuntary manslaughter, but I find most people who make these kinds of comparisons and contrasts don’t actually understand the underlying nuances (for example, the overwhelming majority of laypersons could not tell you the difference between manslaughter and murder, or among various degrees of murder (which are themselves defined slightly differently in many jurisdictions notwithstanding the traction of uniform codes…), nor even the difference between robbery and theft.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Autochthon

    Yeah, I am with you in those sentiments, Autochthon. As Dog Daddy to two rescues, I have seen what even mostly mental cruelty did to one of our border collies. I'd be happy to chain up the redneck fuck outside for a couple of years who messed with my girl like that. I would be willing to bet that upon examination he would be found to be a sociopath, animal cruelty being a tell, and humans are not safe from these "people" if they get the chance to work out their sadistic impulses on them, too.

  127. @ScarletNumber
    @Autochthon


    gaol
     
    Is this a word?

    Replies: @Autochthon, @JerseyJeffersonian

    gaol: noun late thirteenth century, gayhol, from Old North French gaiole and Old French jaole, both meaning “cage; prison,” from Medieval Latin gabiola, from Late Latin caveola, diminutive of Latin cavea “cage, enclosure, stall, coop” (see cave (n.)). Both this form (more commonly British) and jail (more commonly American) carried into Middle English and Modern English; both are now pronounced “jail” regardless of spelling.

    If they try to hold me for trial, I’ll stay out of gaol by paying my bail; and after I’ll go to the court of appeal saying ‘You’ve done me wrong!’ – it’s the same old song, forever…. —Tony Banks, “Robbery, Assault, & Battery

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Autochthon

    Wow, say what you want about Americans, but at least we can spell.

  128. @ScarletNumber
    @Autochthon


    gaol
     
    Is this a word?

    Replies: @Autochthon, @JerseyJeffersonian

    British spelling, so yes. Noah Webster, when compiling his dictionary, made a big deal out of an Americanized orthography to distinguish “our” dialect of English from that of the hated Brits. It would not surprise me if the American spelling “jail” instead of the British “gaol” was an example of this practice.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    See also Autochthon's comment at #128 for etymology.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Gaol is such an abomination that I would never think of pronouncing it like jail. Rather I would pronounce it like gael, the mascot of Iona.

  129. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @ScarletNumber

    British spelling, so yes. Noah Webster, when compiling his dictionary, made a big deal out of an Americanized orthography to distinguish "our" dialect of English from that of the hated Brits. It would not surprise me if the American spelling "jail" instead of the British "gaol" was an example of this practice.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ScarletNumber

    See also Autochthon’s comment at #128 for etymology.

  130. @Autochthon
    @Brutusale

    Whoah, Kimosabe!

    - Hell, yes, sixty years. Especially since the prosecutors know good and well the guy is unlikely to actually serve anything but a percentage of that time. Besides, any guy who gets his kicks smashing the bones, poking the eyes, and cutting the tongues of puppies? Sixty years in prison is too good for him. I'd like to tie this tough guy up in an old trailer from U-Haul, park it in the wilderness of Wyoming, and come visit him for about an hour every day to feed him and show him all the cool things I can do with my hand-tools.

    - You are citing Massachusetts' sentencing statute for involuntary manslaughter. A person who, say, accidentally drives his car into another or, in a blind rage, beats another man caught in flagrante delicto with his wife so badly the other fellow dies absolutely deserves less punishment than the son of a bitch gleefully snapping the bones and cutting the tongues of puppies.

    I don't know your own background, and I don't mean to condescend, since even experts in jurisprudence may share your (apparent) opinions that, say, torturing beasts is not half so bad as involuntary manslaughter, but I find most people who make these kinds of comparisons and contrasts don't actually understand the underlying nuances (for example, the overwhelming majority of laypersons could not tell you the difference between manslaughter and murder, or among various degrees of murder (which are themselves defined slightly differently in many jurisdictions notwithstanding the traction of uniform codes...), nor even the difference between robbery and theft.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    Yeah, I am with you in those sentiments, Autochthon. As Dog Daddy to two rescues, I have seen what even mostly mental cruelty did to one of our border collies. I’d be happy to chain up the redneck fuck outside for a couple of years who messed with my girl like that. I would be willing to bet that upon examination he would be found to be a sociopath, animal cruelty being a tell, and humans are not safe from these “people” if they get the chance to work out their sadistic impulses on them, too.

  131. @Mishra
    @International Jew


    If we Jews really controlled the news media, we’d make you read right-to-left!
     
    Good point! This proves that all the evidence is wrong.

    Replies: @International Jew

    Evidence can’t be wrong. The interpretation of that evidence is what can be wrong.

    • Disagree: schnellandine
    • Replies: @D. K.
    @International Jew

    Wrong! Testimony and documents admitted into evidence not only can be wrong-- as in mistaken-- they often are outright fallacious.

  132. @Dmitry
    @D. K.


    One of the suspects had been a neighbor who had known his victim for a long time, and who had had a friendly relationship with her; so, his slaying of his neighbor and supposed friend is proclaimed to be an anti-Semitic hate crime, because…?!?

     

    Considering demographic orientation of (Muslim) killer and (Jewish) killed - it is likely to be nationalistically motivated.

    Otherwise, the most likely motivation to go around randomly stabbing 85 year old neighbours, without interest in stealing anything.

    It's interesting to compare levels of this issue between France and Russia.

    In the glamorous capital city of the supposed 'Western beacon' France, Jews nowadays quite often are murdered for their religion.

    Meanwhile, in Russia the reverse trend has occurred.

    https://news.rambler.ru/other/39420097-fedotov-otsenil-uspehi-rossii-v-iskorenenii-antisemitizma/

    Replies: @International Jew

    I can’t read that article. What are you saying? That in Moscow now Jews are beating random Russians in the streets?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @International Jew

    Boring press release from this guy's office. (Emphases mine).


    Graduated from Lomonosov Moscow State University in 1972. While at the University, Mikhail Fedotov was a human rights activist, for which he was expelled in his second year and had to finish his course through evening classes.

    1969–1972 – reporter for the Vechernyaya Moskva, Sotsialisticheskaya Industria, and Na Boevom Postu newspapers, as well as Lesnaya Nov magazine.
     
    Such activism. Much human. Wow.
  133. @International Jew
    @Dmitry

    I can't read that article. What are you saying? That in Moscow now Jews are beating random Russians in the streets?

    Replies: @snorlax

    Boring press release from this guy’s office. (Emphases mine).

    Graduated from Lomonosov Moscow State University in 1972. While at the University, Mikhail Fedotov was a human rights activist, for which he was expelled in his second year and had to finish his course through evening classes.

    1969–1972 – reporter for the Vechernyaya Moskva, Sotsialisticheskaya Industria, and Na Boevom Postu newspapers, as well as Lesnaya Nov magazine.

    Such activism. Much human. Wow.

  134. @Autochthon
    @ScarletNumber

    gaol: noun late thirteenth century, gayhol, from Old North French gaiole and Old French jaole, both meaning "cage; prison," from Medieval Latin gabiola, from Late Latin caveola, diminutive of Latin cavea "cage, enclosure, stall, coop" (see cave (n.)). Both this form (more commonly British) and jail (more commonly American) carried into Middle English and Modern English; both are now pronounced "jail" regardless of spelling.

    If they try to hold me for trial, I'll stay out of gaol by paying my bail; and after I'll go to the court of appeal saying 'You've done me wrong!' – it's the same old song, forever.... —Tony Banks, "Robbery, Assault, & Battery"

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Wow, say what you want about Americans, but at least we can spell.

  135. Anonymous [AKA "jamesjoe"] says:

    I read the New York Times in the opposite direction.
    Whatever it says I believe the opposite to be true.

  136. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43574313

    Mireille Knoll: Crowds jeer French far-right, far-left leaders after ‘anti-Semitic’ murder

    No mention of the suspect.

    http://www.dw.com/en/anti-semitic-bullying-of-jewish-schoolgirl-causes-outrage-in-germany/a-43171701

    Anti-Semitic bullying of Jewish schoolgirl causes outrage in Germany

    News that a Jewish girl in Berlin was bullied by Muslim classmates has provoked strong reactions. Germany’s Central Council of Jews has demanded countermeasures, saying Muslim associations must assume responsibility.

  137. @International Jew
    @Mishra

    Evidence can't be wrong. The interpretation of that evidence is what can be wrong.

    Replies: @D. K.

    Wrong! Testimony and documents admitted into evidence not only can be wrong– as in mistaken– they often are outright fallacious.

  138. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @ScarletNumber

    British spelling, so yes. Noah Webster, when compiling his dictionary, made a big deal out of an Americanized orthography to distinguish "our" dialect of English from that of the hated Brits. It would not surprise me if the American spelling "jail" instead of the British "gaol" was an example of this practice.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ScarletNumber

    Gaol is such an abomination that I would never think of pronouncing it like jail. Rather I would pronounce it like gael, the mascot of Iona.

  139. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:

    Americans have comparatively uniform accents compared to Brits, whose accents vary dramatically from region to region. Phonetic spelling reform is accordingly more difficult in Britain as nobody can agree which pronunciation of a particular word should be taken as correct.

  140. @istevefan
    @Hibernian


    The Catholic Church in France is hatch, match, and dispatch. There are few active members.
     
    How many Jews are there in France compared to active Catholics?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    My guess is that the numbers are about the same, or at least in the same ballpark.

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