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Here’s a rare MSM mention of hate crime hoaxes in the Washington Post: a tiny leftwing church in small Indiana gets “Heil Trump” painted on its wall. The story goes national:

The graffiti in rural Indiana became a national sensation, part of a string of high-profile hate crime reports in the wake of Donald Trump’s victory. Late-night television host Stephen Colbert featured an image of one of the tagged walls during a monologue. The church’s priest, the Rev. Kelsey Hutto, appeared on CNN to champion the values of St. David’s, an island of liberalism in conservative Brown County.

But the malefactor turns out to be the church’s gay organist * who was mad at his Trump-voting mom. The article concludes with a long section about how his left wing church forgave him for libeling his Trump-supporting neighbors.

* By the way, I’m reminded of an awesome Jesse Jackson quote from the 1980s that, sadly, I can’t find anywhere on the Internet, even though I remember it like it was yesterday. During one of his impressive 1980s runs for the Democratic nomination, the Rev. Jesse was questioned about his claim to lead a Rainbow Coalition. (This was before gays completely monopolized and homogenized the concept of a rainbow.) He was asked how he could claim to be heading a “Rainbow Coalition”open to homosexuals when he spent much of his time campaigning in black churches.

He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

I love stereotypes.

 
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  1. Real life as a Coen Brothers’ movie.

    Also:

    > Paints “Heil Trump” on church wall.
    > God listens (but misinterpretes) and immediately fixes Trump’s haemorroids.
    > PRAISE BE!

    • Replies: @ic1000
    > God listens (but misinterprets)...

    Einstein famously quipped that God doesn't play dice. If His spelling is that bad, I guess He doesn't play much Scrabble, either.
  2. “Gay organist”. Yes.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @South Texas Guy

    “Gay organist”. Yes.
     
    Good catch, sir. I missed that one.
    , @Anonymous
    Black churches are the only ones who typically don’t have gay organists. Black churches use Hammond tone wheel organs and Leslie speakers. White churches have actual pipe organs or electronic simulacra of same. Usually the organist in a black church is the preacher himself or a female congregant. White churches have professional organists usually, usually gay or female, and ofttimes not a church member.
    , @reactionry
    Kashrut or Die?*

    I suspect that "loxandbagel" (without, of course, cream cheese) sounds a hell of a lot more kosher than, say, "Hammondorgan (regardless of how cut)."


    * also see "root hog or die"

    , @PiltdownMan
    The actual quote, in that link I posted.

    “We have a lot of gay people playing the organ in black churches.”
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    "Gay organist" is redundant. Gays and organists both play the organ.
  3. Will WaPo have a story where they apologize for pushing the Russian Collusion story?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Actually the Russian Collusion story is being revived, as the impeachment show is now officially about Ukraine being the last Bulwark against Putin being cruelly weakened by Trump, opening up the US for commie invasion.
    , @Bennymeyer
    Why would they? It is all true

    I gaurantee Trump will be impeached
  4. At what point, as a regular church goer, do you not believe in God, Jesus, the Bible, so forth? I guess if you’re an Espiscopalian, or increasing Methodist (Catholic is rapidly gaining ground) it’s pretty much every Sunday. (Not including those namby-pamby non-denominational churches that call God ‘Her’).

    Basically what this says is that even with the dwindling power of the major news media, the bullhorn still works. I mean, Smollet was only outed because Chicago PD was pissed.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    This is a church that uses feminine pronouns for God. One of the members was quoted in the article saying he doesn't believe in hell. It sounded like a social club for progressives who enjoy church music.
  5. @Tacitus
    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    Good catch, sir. I missed that one.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    A gay organist plays a one-hole flesh flute. Took me awhile to catch on.
  6. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tacitus
    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    Black churches are the only ones who typically don’t have gay organists. Black churches use Hammond tone wheel organs and Leslie speakers. White churches have actual pipe organs or electronic simulacra of same. Usually the organist in a black church is the preacher himself or a female congregant. White churches have professional organists usually, usually gay or female, and ofttimes not a church member.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
    Thanks for the information.

    Information is so rare and precious, even biased information, which I don't take yours to be.
    , @Hibernian
    So Hammond tone wheel organs aren't fabulous enough for gay organists?
  7. The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?
     
    He is a son of God.
    , @Jack D
    Sniffing for Joos, are we? Keep sniffing.
    , @Jane Plain
    His mother voted for Trump.

    Rural Indiana.

    Figure it out yourself, genius.
  8. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    Weird thing is that blacks are homophobic but I’ve met some flamboyant and swishy blacks who still live in the hood. I was chopping it up with some decidedly non-bourgeois brothers at the YMCA basketball court in a Southern town and they all knew this 45 year old guy who stopped by and talked like he was straight out of a 90s stereotype of fabulousness.

    Must be a don’t ask/don’t tell. They’re swishy but I’m guessing they don’t whine about problematic words or LGBT politics (if they stay in the old hood where their grandmas still go to church; some of them obviously leave for the big, gay city over the rainbow).

    • Replies: @jes noticin
    Weird thing is that blacks are homophobic but I’ve met some flamboyant and swishy blacks who still live in the hood.

    The most classic example ever.
    , @Anonymous
    Hood gays aren't kept around for decoration. They tend to facilitate certain, discreet economic/capital-stowing functions-- that's a stereotype, btw
  9. That’s some pretty decent detective work on the part of the officer in charge of the case. Interesting to note that most people in the area didn’t know that the church performed gay marriages—aren’t small towns all about hushed gossip and open secrets? Maybe the stereotypes of the “feigned ignorance” of small towns is overly dramatized, and the reality is that people really don’t know what others are up to.

    • Replies: @penandsword
    I lived close to Bean Blossom for years, went by this church all the time. I never heard a word about it.
  10. @Redneck farmer
    Will WaPo have a story where they apologize for pushing the Russian Collusion story?

    Actually the Russian Collusion story is being revived, as the impeachment show is now officially about Ukraine being the last Bulwark against Putin being cruelly weakened by Trump, opening up the US for commie invasion.

  11. He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

    A 1996 biography of Jesse Jackson mentions his saying that, too. The relevant passage is accessible online in Google books but the author doesn’t provide any details or a citation.

    Jesse: The Life and Pilgrimage of Jesse Jackson
    By Marshall Frady

    http://tinyurl.com/wpfnenz

  12. @Anonymous
    Weird thing is that blacks are homophobic but I've met some flamboyant and swishy blacks who still live in the hood. I was chopping it up with some decidedly non-bourgeois brothers at the YMCA basketball court in a Southern town and they all knew this 45 year old guy who stopped by and talked like he was straight out of a 90s stereotype of fabulousness.

    Must be a don't ask/don't tell. They're swishy but I'm guessing they don't whine about problematic words or LGBT politics (if they stay in the old hood where their grandmas still go to church; some of them obviously leave for the big, gay city over the rainbow).

    Weird thing is that blacks are homophobic but I’ve met some flamboyant and swishy blacks who still live in the hood.

    The most classic example ever.

  13. Speaking of stereotypes, I remember one of my piano teachers (not homosexual) telling me (not homosexual) many decades ago that it was a mystery why so high a percentage of pianists were homosexual while the same wasn’t true for violinists. At the time I had never given the subject any thought, but it seems to be true, and what goes for pianists probably goes at least as well for church organists. The closest thing to a theory I have is that most normal boys can’t stand to sit still for any length of time. Anyone else have a clue?

  14. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:

    Late-night television host Stephen Colbert featured an image of one of the tagged walls during a monologue.

    Shock. Stephen Colbert turned out to be a shameless liar? No. Can’t be. The left has principles, I thought. Anyways, do you remember that time he mocked Tucker Carlson for being skeptical about attacking Syria? Yeah, well it turned out Carlson was completely correct. The CIA lied about the Assad gas attack back in 2018. How exactly is it appropriate for conservative red states to let this guy continue this propaganda? Hey red states, block the network. It’s not worth it.

    Stephen Colbert stokes his panda:

    The CIA manipulated the report to provoke an attack:

  15. In 6th grade my (now obviously gay) organ playing music teacher used to belt out ‘Fifteen Miles on the Erie Canal’ with a flamboyance that was like nothing I’d ever seen.

    • Replies: @black sea
    Any references to pegboys in his rendition?
    , @Hibernian
    I remember that song form a set of records we got for Christmas when I was very young. I remember it as "Fifteen Years on thr Erie Canal.

    We hauled some barges in our day
    Filled with lumber, coal and hay
    And every inch of the way I know
    From Albany to Buffalo
     
  16. Brown County, Indiana, is conservative, but it is next to Monroe County, the site of Indiana University-Bloomington, which is typically college-town liberal. Monroe County was one of only 3 counties (out of 92) in Indiana which went for Hillary. SJW stuff happens here all the time. One of my favorites: Last year a Dominican priest, wearing his white garb and praying the rosary, was crossing the campus. There was a brief lock down based on the report of a KKK member on campus holding a noose.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    My theory is that college campuses are slowly evolving into mental hospitals to replace the ones which were mistakenly dissolved fifty years ago.
    , @Anonymous
    The modern equivalent of a devil-sighting in a nunnery.
  17. anon[250] • Disclaimer says:

    He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

    I wonder if The Phantom of the Opera is some kind of closeted gay reference. An organ-playing masked man whose true nature is hidden from the world abducts a pretty woman at an opera house. A male character, “The Persian”, leads the male rival to The Phantom’s secret lair where they are trapped in a mirror room; the male character knew where to find him, somehow. The Phantom reveals to the girl that he’s never kissed a girl or been kissed, even by his own mother … I’ll stop there. Ostensibly, it’s because he’s ugly, but I’m sure there’s a film / literature class out there somewhere that asserts otherwise.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Six Ways to Sunday.

    Norman Reedus, Adrien Brody, etc.

  18. I once wrote a song about Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition.

    “After it rains, there’s a rainbow. And all of its colors are black.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    "... everything's the same, back in my little town..." Hey, TheRealPaulSimon, that was a good one. That crack AND the song. I thought you did just as well without Art, BTW. WTH did he do anyway, just backing vocals? I wish you'd sing Me and Julio with my Øb☭ma lyrics just one time, maybe in Central Park.

    I'm your biggest fan, man!

    For Art:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5biEjyXNa2o
  19. It was a slippery slope from gay ‘marriage’ to phony hate crimes committed by gay church organists (there’s something oxymoronic about a gay church organist, but I can’t quite put my finger on exactly what it might be).

    Other acts and rhetoric motivated by malice (if not hate) are open enough that it is harder to label recognition of them as a kooky conspiracy theory — that doesn’t stop them from trying, since it has consistently worked so often in the past.

    https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1202794290390413312

  20. He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

    I love stereotypes.

    I love double entendre/puns

  21. @Anonymous
    The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?

    The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?

    He is a son of God.

  22. @El Dato
    Real life as a Coen Brothers' movie.

    Also:

    > Paints “Heil Trump” on church wall.
    > God listens (but misinterpretes) and immediately fixes Trump's haemorroids.
    > PRAISE BE!

    > God listens (but misinterprets)…

    Einstein famously quipped that God doesn’t play dice. If His spelling is that bad, I guess He doesn’t play much Scrabble, either.

    • LOL: fish
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Einstein's line is the one people remember, but even better was the reply (from either Bohr or Heisenberg, I forget which)...

    "Einstein, stop telling God what to do!"
  23. @Redneck farmer
    Will WaPo have a story where they apologize for pushing the Russian Collusion story?

    Why would they? It is all true

    I gaurantee Trump will be impeached

  24. @South Texas Guy
    At what point, as a regular church goer, do you not believe in God, Jesus, the Bible, so forth? I guess if you're an Espiscopalian, or increasing Methodist (Catholic is rapidly gaining ground) it's pretty much every Sunday. (Not including those namby-pamby non-denominational churches that call God 'Her').

    Basically what this says is that even with the dwindling power of the major news media, the bullhorn still works. I mean, Smollet was only outed because Chicago PD was pissed.

    This is a church that uses feminine pronouns for God. One of the members was quoted in the article saying he doesn’t believe in hell. It sounded like a social club for progressives who enjoy church music.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @kihowi
    i.e. Christianity, apart from one or two fire-and-brimstone holdouts in the south.

    In the 80s, my family church the 0nly representation of Jesus was him as a black man. There were zero black people in the congregation.
  25. God hates fags ?

    – Westboro guy

  26. The article is such classic MSM propaganda. Yes, Stang spray painted swastikas, yes he made a mistake but he has paid for it and he is sorry for it. His crime was completely understandable – he felt scared and personally threatened by the candidates who were elected. He has a heart of gold. He deserves our forgiveness. He doesn’t deserve to lose his job. Etc. Anyway, hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.

    Let’s change the script and make Stang into a straight white nationalist who committed the same crime, but keep everything else the same. Stang the WN says that he is sorry, that he realizes now that he shouldn’t have done this. Does the WaPo grant forgiveness to him, print an article casting him in a good light? HELL NO. They write: why did he only get community service and not jail time – years and years of it? Why does he still have a job? Why hasn’t he been expelled from his doctoral program- sitting in class with him makes the other students feel unsafe. Why did the cop extend special treatment to him and not cuff him immediately? Is it because the cop’s sister is also a WN? Etc., etc. Never in a million years do they write a puff piece that minimizes his crime.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker

    Hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.
     
    How the hell would you, or anyone, know such a thing?

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Please label it as such in the future. And you might as well include the admission that you have not the slightest factual basis for it.

    Not that it's wrong, or that anyone could know, one way or the other.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    Let’s change the script and make Stang into a straight white nationalist who committed the same crime, but keep everything else the same.
     
    According to the MSM, the reason "hate crimes" are bad is that they supposedly make "marginalized people" fearful and take away their safe space, or whatever. So putting out such an intimidating, hateful message should logically be an equally heinous "hate crime" regardless of the author's identity or motive.

    In fact, the hate-hoax is actually a double hate crime because the hoaxer is simultaneously creating false fear among the "marginalized," while falsely slandering straight white people as being "hateful."

    But the left is never logical or consistent. So once they find out the perp. is actually one of their own, all is forgiven.
  27. @Anonymous
    The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?

    Sniffing for Joos, are we? Keep sniffing.

    • Replies: @fish
    Stang?
    , @J.Ross
    Yeah because this, granting a culturally-appropriating gentile assailant, isn't still the most proprietarily Jewish thing in the universe. The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.
  28. (This was before gays completely monopolized and homogenized the concept of a rainbow.)

    And long before the gays or Jesse took up the rainbow concept the US Army used it in 1917 to describe the new 42nd Infantry Division:

    The 42ID came to be known as the “Rainbow Division”. When the United States declared war on Germany in 1917, it federalized National Guard divisions to quickly build up an Army. In addition, Douglas MacArthur, then a major, suggested to William A. Mann, the head of the Militia Bureau, that he form another division from the non-divisional units of several states. Secretary of War Newton D. Baker approved the proposal, and recalled Douglas MacArthur saying that such an organization would “stretch over the whole country like a rainbow.”[3] The division was created using units from 26 states and the District of Columbia. The name stuck, and MacArthur was promoted to colonel as the division chief of staff.[4]

    They even used a rainbow for their shoulder sleeve patch.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    Check out the SHAEF patch.
  29. @Jack D
    Sniffing for Joos, are we? Keep sniffing.

    Stang?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Stang can be an Ashkenazi Jewish name or a German name but there were plenty of clues that this Stang wasn't Jewish - see Jane Plain's comment. Stang is a Germanic word meaning pole or rod or the shaft of a spear so it can be the name of someone who is tall and thin or whose occupation is to make such shafts or someone who is a soldier.
    , @Anonymous
    Not a stang, but it might of been a setup.
  30. The first #RainbowsSoStraight campaign succeeded beyond anybody’s wildest, wettest dreams… Lucky the Leprechaun would be #proud

  31. @Anonymous
    Weird thing is that blacks are homophobic but I've met some flamboyant and swishy blacks who still live in the hood. I was chopping it up with some decidedly non-bourgeois brothers at the YMCA basketball court in a Southern town and they all knew this 45 year old guy who stopped by and talked like he was straight out of a 90s stereotype of fabulousness.

    Must be a don't ask/don't tell. They're swishy but I'm guessing they don't whine about problematic words or LGBT politics (if they stay in the old hood where their grandmas still go to church; some of them obviously leave for the big, gay city over the rainbow).

    Hood gays aren’t kept around for decoration. They tend to facilitate certain, discreet economic/capital-stowing functions– that’s a stereotype, btw

  32. The article concludes with a long section about how his left wing church forgave him for libeling his Trump-supporting neighbors.

    Yes of course they did, because in the theology of their fake church (that would have been an even more accurate graffiti than “fag church”), he didn’t do anything wrong: libeling Trump supporters is the program, not an error.

    Among the many symptoms of decadence, the abuse of the concept of forgiveness is widespread nowadays. Elsewhere in the article the church congregation sends a letter to the judge before the miscreant’s sentencing:

    “We forgave Nathan,” the letter continued, “then found we also had to forgive ourselves. We discovered ourselves guilty of the same prejudice we silently accused others of.”

    WTF? They are not the injured party. They are fellow perpetrators, however unprosecuted. It is up to the falsely accused local Trump supporters and/or God to forgive, not for these solipsistic fake churchgoers to forgive themselves. Jay-sus. If they knew any real theology, this would be obvious to them (and to the journalist reporting it). But of course the only “theology” any of them know is the Theology of Leftism.

    Also from the article:

    Stang’s boyfriend, a professional flutist

    Steve:

    I love stereotypes.

    And reality keeps dishing up the goods.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Barnard
    The initial reaction of any sane person, including the cop assigned the case and the perp's mother was that this was an obvious hoax. This is a tiny church in an unincorporated little town, as the cop pointed out, the people who attended were the only ones who paid any attention to what was going on there. This paragraph is a gem:


    “We forgave Nathan,” the letter continued, “then found we also had to forgive ourselves. We discovered ourselves guilty of the same prejudice we silently accused others of.”
     
    They admit their absurd bias against the overwhelming majority of their rural neighbors was wrong, but instead of apologizing to the community, they choose to "forgive themselves." How progressive of them.
  33. before gays completely monopolized and homogenized the concept of a rainbow

    They’ve certainly homosomethinged it.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    https://youtu.be/WS3Lkc6Gzlk
  34. @ic1000
    > God listens (but misinterprets)...

    Einstein famously quipped that God doesn't play dice. If His spelling is that bad, I guess He doesn't play much Scrabble, either.

    Einstein’s line is the one people remember, but even better was the reply (from either Bohr or Heisenberg, I forget which)…

    “Einstein, stop telling God what to do!”

  35. anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    Brown County, Indiana is one of the least populated and therefore most rural counties. Something like 15,000 people in the entire county. It’s about a 1 hour drive away the state capital. Perhaps all the liberals of the county are in one church? I wonder what the average age of church membership is?

    There’s a passage in the Wikipedia article that is interesting: settlers from Ohio, Kentucky, etc. in the 1820’s moved into a certain part known for hills “in order to escape malaria”…. that rich soil in the “bottom land” came with a price, then? We don’t worry about malaria anymore in places like Ohio or Indiana, thanks to a combination of science and engineering.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    I wonder what the average age of church membership is?
     
    The article mentioned that they were old and that at a recent service there was only 1 child.

    Ohio has always had a liberal strain (Oberlin, John Glenn) alongside a conservative one but, especially in rural areas everyone was very civil to each other and didn't let their politics or religious beliefs interfere with friendly relations - reasonable people could differ. But the modern tendency (on both right and left) is to turn differences of political or religious opinion into moral failings if not crimes.
  36. @Lurker

    before gays completely monopolized and homogenized the concept of a rainbow
     
    They've certainly homosomethinged it.

  37. @Anonymous
    The article reports that the hoaxer, Nathan Stang, is an atheist. What is his ancestry?

    His mother voted for Trump.

    Rural Indiana.

    Figure it out yourself, genius.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    Correction: Stang didn't grow up in Indiana, my bad.

    But he went to Stetson U, a Christian school in Florida.

    Upshot:

    Every. Single. Time.

    Not.
  38. @Jane Plain
    His mother voted for Trump.

    Rural Indiana.

    Figure it out yourself, genius.

    Correction: Stang didn’t grow up in Indiana, my bad.

    But he went to Stetson U, a Christian school in Florida.

    Upshot:

    Every. Single. Time.

    Not.

    • Replies: @peterike

    Upshot:

    Every. Single. Time.

    Not.
     
    Well yeah. Jews don't write anti-deplorable slogans on the side of Progressive churches in rural Indiana. They broadcast anti-deplorable propaganda to millions over a thousand media outlets.

    Nitwits like Stang and the church congregants believe these lies. So in way...
  39. @Almost Missouri

    The article concludes with a long section about how his left wing church forgave him for libeling his Trump-supporting neighbors.
     
    Yes of course they did, because in the theology of their fake church (that would have been an even more accurate graffiti than "fag church"), he didn't do anything wrong: libeling Trump supporters is the program, not an error.

    Among the many symptoms of decadence, the abuse of the concept of forgiveness is widespread nowadays. Elsewhere in the article the church congregation sends a letter to the judge before the miscreant's sentencing:


    “We forgave Nathan,” the letter continued, “then found we also had to forgive ourselves. We discovered ourselves guilty of the same prejudice we silently accused others of.”
     
    WTF? They are not the injured party. They are fellow perpetrators, however unprosecuted. It is up to the falsely accused local Trump supporters and/or God to forgive, not for these solipsistic fake churchgoers to forgive themselves. Jay-sus. If they knew any real theology, this would be obvious to them (and to the journalist reporting it). But of course the only "theology" any of them know is the Theology of Leftism.

    Also from the article:


    Stang’s boyfriend, a professional flutist
     
    Steve:

    I love stereotypes.
     
    And reality keeps dishing up the goods.

    The initial reaction of any sane person, including the cop assigned the case and the perp’s mother was that this was an obvious hoax. This is a tiny church in an unincorporated little town, as the cop pointed out, the people who attended were the only ones who paid any attention to what was going on there. This paragraph is a gem:

    “We forgave Nathan,” the letter continued, “then found we also had to forgive ourselves. We discovered ourselves guilty of the same prejudice we silently accused others of.”

    They admit their absurd bias against the overwhelming majority of their rural neighbors was wrong, but instead of apologizing to the community, they choose to “forgive themselves.” How progressive of them.

  40. Most “hate crimes” are false-flag, brought on by the criminalization of public expressions of disapprobation.

    “Rapes” thrive on this same dynamic, and the Holocaust, the Mother of All False Flags, does the same. In fact, it has paved the way for the others.

    There’s much, much more to come. Being a victim is good business.

  41. @Jack D
    The article is such classic MSM propaganda. Yes, Stang spray painted swastikas, yes he made a mistake but he has paid for it and he is sorry for it. His crime was completely understandable - he felt scared and personally threatened by the candidates who were elected. He has a heart of gold. He deserves our forgiveness. He doesn't deserve to lose his job. Etc. Anyway, hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.

    Let's change the script and make Stang into a straight white nationalist who committed the same crime, but keep everything else the same. Stang the WN says that he is sorry, that he realizes now that he shouldn't have done this. Does the WaPo grant forgiveness to him, print an article casting him in a good light? HELL NO. They write: why did he only get community service and not jail time - years and years of it? Why does he still have a job? Why hasn't he been expelled from his doctoral program- sitting in class with him makes the other students feel unsafe. Why did the cop extend special treatment to him and not cuff him immediately? Is it because the cop's sister is also a WN? Etc., etc. Never in a million years do they write a puff piece that minimizes his crime.

    Hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.

    How the hell would you, or anyone, know such a thing?

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Please label it as such in the future. And you might as well include the admission that you have not the slightest factual basis for it.

    Not that it’s wrong, or that anyone could know, one way or the other.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    BTW, in the link that Steve gave, there is a further link to an article about what percentage of hate crimes are hate hoaxes. As is typical for the MSM, they did a "balanced" article by citing a far leftist "expert" and a moderate leftist "expert" - the truth must be somewhere in between. The moderate leftist said that 15% of hate crimes are hate hoaxes but the far leftist, using an extremely one sided definition of what constitutes a hate crime and a hate hoax in order to manipulate his numbers, was able to get it down to 1/2 of 1%. It turns out that hate hoaxes are like vote fraud - they hardly exist. They are something that the right conjures up to excite their base.
  42. @Anonymous
    Black churches are the only ones who typically don’t have gay organists. Black churches use Hammond tone wheel organs and Leslie speakers. White churches have actual pipe organs or electronic simulacra of same. Usually the organist in a black church is the preacher himself or a female congregant. White churches have professional organists usually, usually gay or female, and ofttimes not a church member.

    Thanks for the information.

    Information is so rare and precious, even biased information, which I don’t take yours to be.

  43. He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

    It wasn’t just black churches, dude.

  44. @Jett Rucker

    Hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.
     
    How the hell would you, or anyone, know such a thing?

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Please label it as such in the future. And you might as well include the admission that you have not the slightest factual basis for it.

    Not that it's wrong, or that anyone could know, one way or the other.

    You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    BTW, in the link that Steve gave, there is a further link to an article about what percentage of hate crimes are hate hoaxes. As is typical for the MSM, they did a “balanced” article by citing a far leftist “expert” and a moderate leftist “expert” – the truth must be somewhere in between. The moderate leftist said that 15% of hate crimes are hate hoaxes but the far leftist, using an extremely one sided definition of what constitutes a hate crime and a hate hoax in order to manipulate his numbers, was able to get it down to 1/2 of 1%. It turns out that hate hoaxes are like vote fraud – they hardly exist. They are something that the right conjures up to excite their base.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    > It turns out that hate hoaxes are like vote fraud

    It sure does. Neither "hate hoaxes" nor "voter fraud" exist until they are proven to exist. Until such proof is brought to light, they are "hate crimes" and "votes," respectively. Surprise! It turns out that Establishment media have next-to-no interest in critically examining putative hoaxes and frauds. The absence of evidence brought to light by nonexistent reports is evidence of absence of their existence.

    Okay, I exaggerate -- not "absence," just well under 0.5%.
  45. He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.

    That may be because virtually all organists, professional or not, seem to be of the heaumeau variety.

  46. @fish
    Stang?

    Stang can be an Ashkenazi Jewish name or a German name but there were plenty of clues that this Stang wasn’t Jewish – see Jane Plain’s comment. Stang is a Germanic word meaning pole or rod or the shaft of a spear so it can be the name of someone who is tall and thin or whose occupation is to make such shafts or someone who is a soldier.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    I thought it was the past tense of the verb "to sting."
    , @Anonymous
    His father is conspicuously absent from the story.
  47. Every congregant pictured in that article, and Stang himself, look exactly like you’d expect them to look. And hey, they even have a little old Progressive Chinese lady out there in rural Indiana. Ain’t that America?

  48. @Jane Plain
    Correction: Stang didn't grow up in Indiana, my bad.

    But he went to Stetson U, a Christian school in Florida.

    Upshot:

    Every. Single. Time.

    Not.

    Upshot:

    Every. Single. Time.

    Not.

    Well yeah. Jews don’t write anti-deplorable slogans on the side of Progressive churches in rural Indiana. They broadcast anti-deplorable propaganda to millions over a thousand media outlets.

    Nitwits like Stang and the church congregants believe these lies. So in way…

  49. @anon
    Brown County, Indiana is one of the least populated and therefore most rural counties. Something like 15,000 people in the entire county. It's about a 1 hour drive away the state capital. Perhaps all the liberals of the county are in one church? I wonder what the average age of church membership is?

    There's a passage in the Wikipedia article that is interesting: settlers from Ohio, Kentucky, etc. in the 1820's moved into a certain part known for hills "in order to escape malaria".... that rich soil in the "bottom land" came with a price, then? We don't worry about malaria anymore in places like Ohio or Indiana, thanks to a combination of science and engineering.

    I wonder what the average age of church membership is?

    The article mentioned that they were old and that at a recent service there was only 1 child.

    Ohio has always had a liberal strain (Oberlin, John Glenn) alongside a conservative one but, especially in rural areas everyone was very civil to each other and didn’t let their politics or religious beliefs interfere with friendly relations – reasonable people could differ. But the modern tendency (on both right and left) is to turn differences of political or religious opinion into moral failings if not crimes.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    Ohio has always had a liberal strain (Oberlin, John Glenn)
     
    John Glenn! You should read what Tom Wolfe says about John Glenn in The Right Stuff.

    This guy was putting on an incredible show! He was praying in public. He was presenting himself in their very midst as the flying monk or whatever the Presbyterian version of a monk was. A saint, maybe; or an ascetic; or maybe just the village scone crusher.
     
    But maybe he mellowed later on.
  50. @Jack D
    Sniffing for Joos, are we? Keep sniffing.

    Yeah because this, granting a culturally-appropriating gentile assailant, isn’t still the most proprietarily Jewish thing in the universe. The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So you are saying that even though Stang isn't actually Jewish, he acted in what you consider to be a "Jewish" (loud and demanding) way and so he ought to have been, or should be considered as such, anyway. In other words, pretzel logic. All Jews are loud and demanding, Stang is loud and demanding, ergo Stang is Jewish. QED.

    Sorry, Stang goes fully in the goy column. You're not foisting him on us. He is one of yours. Embrace your brother (uh, in a brotherly way).
    , @Dissident

    The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.
     
    There is no inherent Jewish identity or characteristic divorced from Judaism. (Incidentally, this contention of mine is consistent with demographic statistics and trends.) The reprehensible ideology and behaviors cited by yourself and others in this thread (see below) are not sanctioned by Judaism, and even emphatically prohibited and condemned by Judaism.[1] Thus, Jews who exhibit such behaviors and ideology do so in spite of their Judaic heritage. (Many such Jews are avowed atheists. Atheism, by definition, is a complete disavowal of the very core of Judaism. Others espouse various forms of pseudo-Judaism, all of which pervert actual Judaism.)

    Anon 425 (Priss Factor) wrote:


    and if whites were to gain a measure of redemption, they had to surrender to the moral authority of Jews(and their allies, mainly blacks and homos) who shall outline what whites must do in order to be rehabilitated: Total rejection of white identity and interests, even to the point where “It’s Okay to be White” is ‘white supremacist’, blind faith in Diversity designed to turn white nations into white-minority nations, worship of Shoah as neo-religion, Afro-mania, Globo-Homomania, and total support of Zion & Wars for Israel.
     
    What I wrote above applies to all that you have cited here.

    Judaism rivals any religion in condemning degeneracy such as buggery.

    Zionism is an idolatrous heresy. (Admittedly, one that has unfortunately misled even many otherwise Orthodox and devout Jews.) The authentic Judaic view is that Jews are in a divinely-decried exile which only the All-mighty, through his Messiah (i.e., Moshiakh; Anointed One) can redeem us from. Until such deliverance, which we pray for daily, we are commanded to live as loyal, law-abiding citizens of our host nations. And we are forbidden both from establishing sovereignty in the Holy Land*, as well as from rebelling against the nations in which we live.

    For Jews who actually live authentic Judaism, the Holocaust is far from central.

    These facts are elided by those, such as the author of the post I quoted above (i.e., Anon 425/ Priss Factor), who conflate Judaism, Jews, Zionism, etc., lumping all into a fantastical monolith. (That and some other flaws and weaknesses acknowledged, I will note that I have nonetheless enjoyed and appreciated much of said individual's writing.)

    *The specific parameters and details of this prohibition are subject to dispute among the relevant authorities. What is certain, however, that Zionism, from its inception and in all of its forms (including the so-called "religious" variants), was rejected and condemned by a near-unanimous consensus of the leading rabbinic authorities.

  51. @Jack D
    The article is such classic MSM propaganda. Yes, Stang spray painted swastikas, yes he made a mistake but he has paid for it and he is sorry for it. His crime was completely understandable - he felt scared and personally threatened by the candidates who were elected. He has a heart of gold. He deserves our forgiveness. He doesn't deserve to lose his job. Etc. Anyway, hate hoaxes are exceedingly rare.

    Let's change the script and make Stang into a straight white nationalist who committed the same crime, but keep everything else the same. Stang the WN says that he is sorry, that he realizes now that he shouldn't have done this. Does the WaPo grant forgiveness to him, print an article casting him in a good light? HELL NO. They write: why did he only get community service and not jail time - years and years of it? Why does he still have a job? Why hasn't he been expelled from his doctoral program- sitting in class with him makes the other students feel unsafe. Why did the cop extend special treatment to him and not cuff him immediately? Is it because the cop's sister is also a WN? Etc., etc. Never in a million years do they write a puff piece that minimizes his crime.

    Let’s change the script and make Stang into a straight white nationalist who committed the same crime, but keep everything else the same.

    According to the MSM, the reason “hate crimes” are bad is that they supposedly make “marginalized people” fearful and take away their safe space, or whatever. So putting out such an intimidating, hateful message should logically be an equally heinous “hate crime” regardless of the author’s identity or motive.

    In fact, the hate-hoax is actually a double hate crime because the hoaxer is simultaneously creating false fear among the “marginalized,” while falsely slandering straight white people as being “hateful.”

    But the left is never logical or consistent. So once they find out the perp. is actually one of their own, all is forgiven.

    • Agree: Dtbb, Dissident
  52. IIRC, this graffiti was painted the day after Trump was elected. I lost track of the number of times this was shown on national television as evidence of the supposed rise in hate crimes. What are the chances this was painted by an actual Trump supporter? 10-15%?

  53. @Barnard
    This is a church that uses feminine pronouns for God. One of the members was quoted in the article saying he doesn't believe in hell. It sounded like a social club for progressives who enjoy church music.

    i.e. Christianity, apart from one or two fire-and-brimstone holdouts in the south.

    In the 80s, my family church the 0nly representation of Jesus was him as a black man. There were zero black people in the congregation.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    OK, so you just outed yourself as having grown up in Portland. ;-)
  54. Atheist gay organist freaks out over election, commits hate hoax, gets fired – gets new job at State U just down the road. Who says crime doesn’t pay?

  55. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Most ‘hate hoaxes'(which are really hateful crimes and defamation against whites and/or Christians) go unmentioned because The Power knows that exposing hypocrisy and BS is the surest way to undermine the authority of those who command the dogma/narrative. When do kids lose respect for parents or teachers? It’s not when they realize the adults are imperfect(as all people are) but when they realize certain adults are full of BS who say one thing but do another. This is why it’s especially damaging when a reverend is caught in a sexual or financial scandal. Because spiritual leaders yammer so much about goodness and morals, they look especially bad when they are caught with their pants down or with their hands in the cookie jar.

    What was the main reason for the fall of White Authority and Power in the West? As the Christian-Humanist-Enlightenment West was deeply moralistic, righteous, and even holier-than-thou — “God is on our side”, “White Man’s Burden”, “Human Rights”, etc — , it was especially vulnerable to exposure of hypocrisy. An amoral power like the Vikings, Huns, or Mongols didn’t care about being righteous, but Western Power rose not only with guns and money but with the Bible and Enlightenment. Christianity was especially vulnerable to exposure of hypocrisy because it is so purist in its moralism; after all, Jesus even said “Turn the other cheek” and “Love your enemy.”
    As long as the West guarded its Narrative and Agenda from accusations of hypocrisy, they held the authority, self-respect, and even the respect of non-whites. Sure, some critical whites could notice the hypocrisy from within, but their relatively mild rebukes led to reforms and progress that served as the basis for more moral pride: “We are not perfect, we made mistakes, but we work hard to make progress and improve things.” This is why, for the first 100 yrs after the Civil War, America was not particularly burdened with guilt over slavery. The favored white narrative was, “Sure, slavery was wrong, but WE white Americans fought a war to end it.” As long as whites held the megaphone, they could direct people’s attention to the ultimate redemption of Western Civilization and White Folks via progress and reform, thus emphasizing pride over shame/guilt. As a result, the element of White Hypocrisy was muted.

    But then, Jews took over the megaphone, and one of their main methods of undermining White Authority was by exposing white hypocrisy and making it the central theme of Western History. So, at every turn, Jews condemned whites/Christians for having preached one thing while practicing another. If whites-in-power argued that their world wasn’t perfect but made reforms and that such progress was a matter of pride, Jews emphasized the shame and guilt of white failures to practice what they preached. As such, whites no longer deserved moral authority, and if whites were to gain a measure of redemption, they had to surrender to the moral authority of Jews(and their allies, mainly blacks and homos) who shall outline what whites must do in order to be rehabilitated: Total rejection of white identity and interests, even to the point where “It’s Okay to be White” is ‘white supremacist’, blind faith in Diversity designed to turn white nations into white-minority nations, worship of Shoah as neo-religion, Afro-mania, Globo-Homomania, and total support of Zion & Wars for Israel.

    As ALL orders(and all individuals) are hypocritical to some extent — practice almost always never matches principles or theory — , the real issue is NOT “who is or isn’t hypocritical”; rather, the issue is “who holds the megaphone that directs our attention to a particular hypocrisy?” When white power wielded the megaphone, it decided who were or weren’t hypocritical, but when it yielded it to Jews, the Jews got to decide. And whites were vulnerable especially in the 20th century because of World War I and World War II(and Shoah). Prior to such cataclysms, despite setbacks and failures, it seemed as though the West was indeed making great advances on all fronts, industrial and moral. Enlightenment and People Power seemed to be creating a better and happier world. Yet, in WWI and especially WWII, all the themes of progress — populist people power, mass communications, science and technology, social engineering, etc — all piled into a total catastrophe. Once Christian moralism faded among whites, it had been replaced by the Pride of Progress, but even that failed for White Authority in the horrible events of the 20th century.
    That said, if white power had managed to cling to the megaphone regardless, its pride might have survived intact. After all, Chinese Communist Party has much to answer for, but as it has always controlled the megaphone, the main theme of Chinese politics is not the hypocritical discrepancy between what the CCP promised and what it delivered in terms of Maoism and then capitalism. Maoism was an utter disaster, and capitalism is hardly what a communist party should be practicing, and these are Easy Hypocrisies that could be exposed to undermine CCP authority, but not many talk about such in China because the megaphone of the CCP is about patriotism and unity and reversing the “100 yrs of humiliation”.

    What do Jews fear most? They know from recent history what undermined white authority. They know of their crucial role in it. It was by exposing White Hypocrisy that denuded whites of respect and awe that they once held in their own world and even around the world. What was an effective weapon against whites can be an effective weapon against Jews. As long as Jews control the megaphone, they need not worry much since most people are not independent thinkers and just go along with the presented narrative. As control of media and academia is very expensive, it was easy for super-rich Jews to maintain a near-monopoly over the Narrative. But the internet changed the playing field, and there were suddenly many voices, from left and right, that began to expose the Jewish Hypocrisy. And in this, the Shoah increasingly became an Achilles Heel for Jews. It was with the Shoah Narrative that Jews made themselves out to be a saintly victim race that couldn’t hurt a fly, no more than Norman Bates’s mother could. Rather, we were told that the Shoah was the final culmination of goy madness that irrationally had always targeted Jews for all the problems of the world when no people were as innocent and decent as the Jews.

    People become more vulnerable to accusations of hypocrisy if they elevate themselves as high-and-mighty moral arbiters for all humanity, and Jews did just that with the Shoah Narrative. And this made Jewish Hypocrisy a real problem because it’s not difficult to point out all the bad things Jews have done over the ages and are doing now. While a miniphone is no match for a megaphone, when there are so many miniphones on the internet exposing Jewish Hypocrisy on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and etc, all those voices add up to something like a counter-megaphone. It’s like enough mosquitoes can drive a man crazy. And this is why Jewish Power is so hellbent on using their ethno-monopoly over internet platforms to shut down as many voices as possible because what brought down white authority can bring down Jewish authority.

    Authority is key because wealth and privilege are not enough. Even now, white gentiles have the bulk of the wealth in the US, but they totally lack authority. Even grubby non-whites who just got off the boat feel emboldened to spit on whitey as indeed many Hindus do. Blacks are poorer than whites, but they have great moral authority due to the prevailing narrative pushed by the Jewish megaphone. Currently, Jewish Power is rife with hypocrisies of all kinds. Jews talk of equality but are the most unequal people. Jews talk of the evil of ‘hate’, but they run Hollywood that makes hateful movies about the Other, especially Muslims and Russians. Jews talk about the dangers of misogyny, but they control porn and made billions from rap music where women are ‘bitchass hos’. Jews bitch about atavistic nationalism, but they demand that we all support Israel, the Jewish homeland. Jews call for War on Terror, but they’ve been working with terrorists against Assad. They say we must remember the Shoah, but radical Jews played a key role in mass killings in the 20th century. Jews berate Russia for all sorts of evil, but the reason why a man like Putin came to power is because of Jewish oligarchic malfeasance in the 90s. And so on and on.

    All we need to do is point out the Jewish Hypocrisy, and that could lead to loss of Jewish Authority. Jews could have all the wealth in the world, but without the element of authority, they would lose respect/reverence, and then they would be easy target of criticism and rebuke. And that’s why there is growing censchwarship on internet platforms.
    But for how long can Jews hold out against accusations of wanton hypocrisy that has paradoxically gotten worse precisely because of Jewish suppression of criticism of Jews. Without healthy criticism and debate, a power grows ever more corrupt and vile, and then there is even greater hypocritical distance between what it preaches and what it practices. Shielded from criticism, Jewish Power has grown more obnoxious in foulness and made the hypocrisy even worse, and that means Jews must suppress criticism even more, but then it compounds Jewish vileness even more. But I’m sure Jews will remind us that they are for ‘free speech, not hate speech’, what with ‘hate’ being defined by themselves. AIPAC’s call for more ‘genocide’ of Palestinians apparently isn’t ‘hate’.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Too long. Revise and edit before post.

    For better or worse, the awed reverence with which Jews were regarded after WWII is gone and will never return.
  56. OT: We still have aviation students from Saudi Arabia. They still engage in terrorism.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/naval-air-station-pensacola-active-shooter-reported-shelter-in-place-issued

  57. Weirdly, does anyone remember the gay organist from Zak Snyder’s version of “Dawn of the Dead”?

    Very rough paraphrasing: “I play the organ. It’s just a job. I don’t believe in God. I don’t see how anyone going through this could…”

  58. @Anon
    In 6th grade my (now obviously gay) organ playing music teacher used to belt out ‘Fifteen Miles on the Erie Canal’ with a flamboyance that was like nothing I’d ever seen.

    Any references to pegboys in his rendition?

  59. OT

    link

    The median age of homebuyers in the US

    1981: 31 years old

    2019: 47 years old

    That’s insane.
    (via DB’s Torsten Slok)

  60. @J.Ross
    Yeah because this, granting a culturally-appropriating gentile assailant, isn't still the most proprietarily Jewish thing in the universe. The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.

    So you are saying that even though Stang isn’t actually Jewish, he acted in what you consider to be a “Jewish” (loud and demanding) way and so he ought to have been, or should be considered as such, anyway. In other words, pretzel logic. All Jews are loud and demanding, Stang is loud and demanding, ergo Stang is Jewish. QED.

    Sorry, Stang goes fully in the goy column. You’re not foisting him on us. He is one of yours. Embrace your brother (uh, in a brotherly way).

    • Replies: @El Dato
    This is not pretzel logic, but "Affirming the Consequent"
    , @J.Ross
    Gibberish. A problem behavior is actually several problems, there is the initial problem and then there are imitations which reproduce all the consequences. The outlying liar by far in this recent spate of hoaxes is still one Jewish person currently in an Israeli jail.
    There's a simple solution. Ask yourself, why would a painted swastika, be it real or hoax, transmute to anything else, least of all political power? Why are we rewarding this behavior? We know that denying publicity to a nutbag stunter or shooter can eliminate the motivation and avoid the whole mess. We ought to deny the "soul searching" nonsense and the awarding of social capital which these events, hoax or not, normally bring. We should say to such a person, Nazi or pseudo-Nazi, painter or shooter: you are nothing, and you accomplished nothing.
  61. Rare MSM Hate Hoax Mention

    Yes, and they mention it in a way that only the MSM can: Crazy right wing parents, Trump voters, traditional Christianity (as opposed to thoughtful, humble and forgiving Episcopalians) and the 2016 election are ultimately what cause hate hoaxes…so you can stop going on and on about the enormous number of hate hoaxes, right-wingers.

    The last statement is implied, of course, but implication and insinuation is very “journalistic” these days.

  62. @fish
    Stang?

    Not a stang, but it might of been a setup.

  63. Liberace was great on the piano, but he sucked on the organ.

    • Replies: @Inductivist
    What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ.
  64. @Jack D
    You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    BTW, in the link that Steve gave, there is a further link to an article about what percentage of hate crimes are hate hoaxes. As is typical for the MSM, they did a "balanced" article by citing a far leftist "expert" and a moderate leftist "expert" - the truth must be somewhere in between. The moderate leftist said that 15% of hate crimes are hate hoaxes but the far leftist, using an extremely one sided definition of what constitutes a hate crime and a hate hoax in order to manipulate his numbers, was able to get it down to 1/2 of 1%. It turns out that hate hoaxes are like vote fraud - they hardly exist. They are something that the right conjures up to excite their base.

    > It turns out that hate hoaxes are like vote fraud

    It sure does. Neither “hate hoaxes” nor “voter fraud” exist until they are proven to exist. Until such proof is brought to light, they are “hate crimes” and “votes,” respectively. Surprise! It turns out that Establishment media have next-to-no interest in critically examining putative hoaxes and frauds. The absence of evidence brought to light by nonexistent reports is evidence of absence of their existence.

    Okay, I exaggerate — not “absence,” just well under 0.5%.

    • Agree: Dissident
  65. @Jack D
    So you are saying that even though Stang isn't actually Jewish, he acted in what you consider to be a "Jewish" (loud and demanding) way and so he ought to have been, or should be considered as such, anyway. In other words, pretzel logic. All Jews are loud and demanding, Stang is loud and demanding, ergo Stang is Jewish. QED.

    Sorry, Stang goes fully in the goy column. You're not foisting him on us. He is one of yours. Embrace your brother (uh, in a brotherly way).

    This is not pretzel logic, but “Affirming the Consequent”

  66. OT – 30 years ago today, a homicidal Muslim walked into a college classroom and murdered over a dozen female students after excusing the male ones. In a disturbing metaphor, this sums up very well the dead end known as MGTOW. Mark Steyn has a good summary:

    https://www.steynonline.com/9892/men-walked-away

  67. …a particular facial structure emerged as the Platonic ideal for rock stars: a vaguely Asian look with high cheekbones and a narrow jaw.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    I've looked around. Bjork has no Asian ancestry. She somewhat reminds me of this woman, a Russian-Jewish ballerina:

    https://bkaobalet.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/jr_nda_osipova_054_500.jpg

    Maybe they had the same ancestor 15K years ago, in the Ural Mountains.

  68. @South Texas Guy

    “Gay organist”. Yes.
     
    Good catch, sir. I missed that one.

    A gay organist plays a one-hole flesh flute. Took me awhile to catch on.

  69. @kihowi
    i.e. Christianity, apart from one or two fire-and-brimstone holdouts in the south.

    In the 80s, my family church the 0nly representation of Jesus was him as a black man. There were zero black people in the congregation.

    OK, so you just outed yourself as having grown up in Portland. 😉

  70. @istevefan

    (This was before gays completely monopolized and homogenized the concept of a rainbow.)
     
    And long before the gays or Jesse took up the rainbow concept the US Army used it in 1917 to describe the new 42nd Infantry Division:

    The 42ID came to be known as the "Rainbow Division". When the United States declared war on Germany in 1917, it federalized National Guard divisions to quickly build up an Army. In addition, Douglas MacArthur, then a major, suggested to William A. Mann, the head of the Militia Bureau, that he form another division from the non-divisional units of several states. Secretary of War Newton D. Baker approved the proposal, and recalled Douglas MacArthur saying that such an organization would "stretch over the whole country like a rainbow."[3] The division was created using units from 26 states and the District of Columbia. The name stuck, and MacArthur was promoted to colonel as the division chief of staff.[4]
     
    They even used a rainbow for their shoulder sleeve patch.

    Check out the SHAEF patch.

  71. My motto: stereotypes save time.

  72. @Paul Simon
    I once wrote a song about Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition.

    “After it rains, there’s a rainbow. And all of its colors are black.”

    “… everything’s the same, back in my little town…” Hey, TheRealPaulSimon, that was a good one. That crack AND the song. I thought you did just as well without Art, BTW. WTH did he do anyway, just backing vocals? I wish you’d sing Me and Julio with my Øb☭ma lyrics just one time, maybe in Central Park.

    I’m your biggest fan, man!

    For Art:

  73. @al-Gharaniq
    That's some pretty decent detective work on the part of the officer in charge of the case. Interesting to note that most people in the area didn't know that the church performed gay marriages—aren't small towns all about hushed gossip and open secrets? Maybe the stereotypes of the "feigned ignorance" of small towns is overly dramatized, and the reality is that people really don't know what others are up to.

    I lived close to Bean Blossom for years, went by this church all the time. I never heard a word about it.

  74. @Jack D
    So you are saying that even though Stang isn't actually Jewish, he acted in what you consider to be a "Jewish" (loud and demanding) way and so he ought to have been, or should be considered as such, anyway. In other words, pretzel logic. All Jews are loud and demanding, Stang is loud and demanding, ergo Stang is Jewish. QED.

    Sorry, Stang goes fully in the goy column. You're not foisting him on us. He is one of yours. Embrace your brother (uh, in a brotherly way).

    Gibberish. A problem behavior is actually several problems, there is the initial problem and then there are imitations which reproduce all the consequences. The outlying liar by far in this recent spate of hoaxes is still one Jewish person currently in an Israeli jail.
    There’s a simple solution. Ask yourself, why would a painted swastika, be it real or hoax, transmute to anything else, least of all political power? Why are we rewarding this behavior? We know that denying publicity to a nutbag stunter or shooter can eliminate the motivation and avoid the whole mess. We ought to deny the “soul searching” nonsense and the awarding of social capital which these events, hoax or not, normally bring. We should say to such a person, Nazi or pseudo-Nazi, painter or shooter: you are nothing, and you accomplished nothing.

  75. @Jack D
    Stang can be an Ashkenazi Jewish name or a German name but there were plenty of clues that this Stang wasn't Jewish - see Jane Plain's comment. Stang is a Germanic word meaning pole or rod or the shaft of a spear so it can be the name of someone who is tall and thin or whose occupation is to make such shafts or someone who is a soldier.

    I thought it was the past tense of the verb “to sting.”

  76. @Reg Cæsar

    ...a particular facial structure emerged as the Platonic ideal for rock stars: a vaguely Asian look with high cheekbones and a narrow jaw.
     
    https://live.staticflickr.com/978/40335412770_b3bc879ec2_b.jpg

    I’ve looked around. Bjork has no Asian ancestry. She somewhat reminds me of this woman, a Russian-Jewish ballerina:

    Maybe they had the same ancestor 15K years ago, in the Ural Mountains.

  77. @Anonymous
    Black churches are the only ones who typically don’t have gay organists. Black churches use Hammond tone wheel organs and Leslie speakers. White churches have actual pipe organs or electronic simulacra of same. Usually the organist in a black church is the preacher himself or a female congregant. White churches have professional organists usually, usually gay or female, and ofttimes not a church member.

    So Hammond tone wheel organs aren’t fabulous enough for gay organists?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Churches with Hammond organs are usually black churches. Hammond organ is not really "organ". It's the difference between Segovia and Santana.

    "Real" organists hate Hammond organs and vice versa. The style of music is also completely different.

    Except for the black churches, Hammonds are used in R&B and jazz settings and on occasional rock records.

    Regular churches have classically/liturgically trained organists and that tends to be a paid position. Even in Catholic churches the organist is often not Catholic.
  78. OT

    Previously I commented about author/academic Stephen Smith and his book The Scramble for Europe, where he suggests Europeans should accept that 150-200m Africans will migrate to Europe by 2050 –> link

    Here is an article by him in the Mar 2019 German Times:

    The scramble for Europe

    An excerpt:

    … This is to say that the number of Africans migrating overseas is bound to rise significantly, and most of them will be headed for Europe, which is not only the nearest region of prosperity – twenty times wealthier than Africa per capita – but also the world’s citadel of social security. Every other dollar spent on social security on this planet is spent by Europeans, though their share of the world population has dropped to 7 percent.

    There is no need to fantasize about “revenge colonization” or, for that matter, any other sinister master plan for Africa’s scramble for Europe. If you come from a dysfunctional country and you have managed to escape the poverty trap, if you are looking for more security and better life chances for yourself and affordable education and a brighter future for your children, Europe is your best chance.

    The choices ordinary Africans make do not constitute a threat for Europe as long as these young migrants move to the Old Continent to live there as Europeans, or African-Europeans, and not as members of an African “diaspora”
    – and as long as Europeans are convinced that the final say on “who is let in” rests with them. Both conditions have become a matter of public dispute. But even if they were fulfilled, Africa’s migration would still represent a major challenge for Europe, as its pace rapidly accelerates over the decades that lie ahead and Europeans start to realize not only the shape of things to come but also the changes that have already taken place. They are trying to come to grips with the “Africanization” of their continent. Back in 1950, even colonial metropoles such as the United Kingdom and France had only a few African immigrants living on their soil, less than 20,000. This has since dramatically changed, and so far in fairly undramatic ways. For reasons that include demagoguery in addition to Europe’s economic stagnation and doubt about its sense of direction, the balance of this assessment might easily tip toward fear. If so, the prospect of “more Africans” will be perceived as a threat to homeland security.

  79. @Anon
    In 6th grade my (now obviously gay) organ playing music teacher used to belt out ‘Fifteen Miles on the Erie Canal’ with a flamboyance that was like nothing I’d ever seen.

    I remember that song form a set of records we got for Christmas when I was very young. I remember it as “Fifteen Years on thr Erie Canal.

    We hauled some barges in our day
    Filled with lumber, coal and hay
    And every inch of the way I know
    From Albany to Buffalo

  80. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    So Hammond tone wheel organs aren't fabulous enough for gay organists?

    Churches with Hammond organs are usually black churches. Hammond organ is not really “organ”. It’s the difference between Segovia and Santana.

    “Real” organists hate Hammond organs and vice versa. The style of music is also completely different.

    Except for the black churches, Hammonds are used in R&B and jazz settings and on occasional rock records.

    Regular churches have classically/liturgically trained organists and that tends to be a paid position. Even in Catholic churches the organist is often not Catholic.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Hammonds has already started getting strange new respect on the Ivy League Choral/Sacred Music scene in the early 2000s when I was in the thick of it. By now they may well be considered the only organ untainted by the pox of trad white Xianity.
  81. @Tacitus
    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    Kashrut or Die?*

    I suspect that “loxandbagel” (without, of course, cream cheese) sounds a hell of a lot more kosher than, say, “Hammondorgan (regardless of how cut).”

    * also see “root hog or die”

  82. @anon

    He answered that lots of black churches have gay organists.
     
    I wonder if The Phantom of the Opera is some kind of closeted gay reference. An organ-playing masked man whose true nature is hidden from the world abducts a pretty woman at an opera house. A male character, "The Persian", leads the male rival to The Phantom's secret lair where they are trapped in a mirror room; the male character knew where to find him, somehow. The Phantom reveals to the girl that he's never kissed a girl or been kissed, even by his own mother ... I'll stop there. Ostensibly, it's because he's ugly, but I'm sure there's a film / literature class out there somewhere that asserts otherwise.

    Six Ways to Sunday.

    Norman Reedus, Adrien Brody, etc.

  83. @Tacitus
    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    The actual quote, in that link I posted.

    “We have a lot of gay people playing the organ in black churches.”

  84. Anon[602] • Disclaimer says:

    The late Derek Bourgeois’s wonderful “Serenade for Organ,” played by a white gay church organist.

    The organist from the local music conservatory played this piece on the huge pipe organ at my city’s concert hall, and I went looking for a performance of it on YouTube. I was so impressed by this version that I did a little research on the organist, and his gay marriage page popped right up.

    Check out his shoes: That’s how you spot a gay organist.

    By the way: The organist is not drunk. The song is in 11/8 time (shifting to 13/8), which is why it’s a little off balance.

  85. @John Foster
    Brown County, Indiana, is conservative, but it is next to Monroe County, the site of Indiana University-Bloomington, which is typically college-town liberal. Monroe County was one of only 3 counties (out of 92) in Indiana which went for Hillary. SJW stuff happens here all the time. One of my favorites: Last year a Dominican priest, wearing his white garb and praying the rosary, was crossing the campus. There was a brief lock down based on the report of a KKK member on campus holding a noose.

    My theory is that college campuses are slowly evolving into mental hospitals to replace the ones which were mistakenly dissolved fifty years ago.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    I hear Chicago Mayor Lightfoot is going to raise some more taxes in order to open the branch Chicago Public Libraries on Sundays.

    Presumably, this is to make them act as accessible public buildings to dump the homeless and bums by calling them 'heating shelters' or something. Last time I visited the library, the elevators reeked of vomit.
  86. @Anonymous
    Churches with Hammond organs are usually black churches. Hammond organ is not really "organ". It's the difference between Segovia and Santana.

    "Real" organists hate Hammond organs and vice versa. The style of music is also completely different.

    Except for the black churches, Hammonds are used in R&B and jazz settings and on occasional rock records.

    Regular churches have classically/liturgically trained organists and that tends to be a paid position. Even in Catholic churches the organist is often not Catholic.

    Hammonds has already started getting strange new respect on the Ivy League Choral/Sacred Music scene in the early 2000s when I was in the thick of it. By now they may well be considered the only organ untainted by the pox of trad white Xianity.

  87. @Desiderius
    My theory is that college campuses are slowly evolving into mental hospitals to replace the ones which were mistakenly dissolved fifty years ago.

    I hear Chicago Mayor Lightfoot is going to raise some more taxes in order to open the branch Chicago Public Libraries on Sundays.

    Presumably, this is to make them act as accessible public buildings to dump the homeless and bums by calling them ‘heating shelters’ or something. Last time I visited the library, the elevators reeked of vomit.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Lori Lightfoot, what a name!

    I wonder how many people recall Chester Proudfoot, U.S. Marshall Matt Dillon's quirky assistant in GUNSMOKE.

    If only we could have someone like Marshall Dillon set things straight today. Dillon was played by the truly redoubtable William Conrad (1920-1994). The lovely Miss Kitty was played by Georgia Ellis; Chester Proudfoot by Parley Baer; and Doc Adams by Howard McNear. (My familiarity with GUMSMOKE is limited-to the original radio version. Those who are only familiar with the television version ought to give the radio version a try.)

    In a documentary piece about the show that is included in the full set I linked-to above, one of the presenters referred-to Conrad as one of the "unsung heroes" of American acting. Although such a characterization might be justified by Conrad's performance in GUNSMOKE alone, his extensive, versatile career includes many more excellent accomplishments. For an example of Conrad's versatility, listen to his performance playing the eccentric character Ah Sin in Episodes #6 and #16* of The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen**-- another of the true gems produced by radio's Golden Age.

    *On the linked-page, these files are numbered and titled, respectively, as follows:
    - 7 Scarlet Queen 47-08-07 (06) The White Cargo Act and Ah Sin - 54:49
    - 17 Scarlet Queen 47-10-16 (16) Ah Sin and the Balinese Beaux Arts Ball - 49:26

    **It has been suggested that The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen was the inspiration for Star Trek.

  88. @Jack D

    I wonder what the average age of church membership is?
     
    The article mentioned that they were old and that at a recent service there was only 1 child.

    Ohio has always had a liberal strain (Oberlin, John Glenn) alongside a conservative one but, especially in rural areas everyone was very civil to each other and didn't let their politics or religious beliefs interfere with friendly relations - reasonable people could differ. But the modern tendency (on both right and left) is to turn differences of political or religious opinion into moral failings if not crimes.

    Ohio has always had a liberal strain (Oberlin, John Glenn)

    John Glenn! You should read what Tom Wolfe says about John Glenn in The Right Stuff.

    This guy was putting on an incredible show! He was praying in public. He was presenting himself in their very midst as the flying monk or whatever the Presbyterian version of a monk was. A saint, maybe; or an ascetic; or maybe just the village scone crusher.

    But maybe he mellowed later on.

  89. OT but remember that mass shooting in New Orleans four days ago? Google “new orleans shooting”, select the News category and under Search Tools select “last 24 hours” and it’s now way down the list behind more recent shootings.

  90. @Tacitus
    “Gay organist”. Yes.

    “Gay organist” is redundant. Gays and organists both play the organ.

  91. @John Foster
    Brown County, Indiana, is conservative, but it is next to Monroe County, the site of Indiana University-Bloomington, which is typically college-town liberal. Monroe County was one of only 3 counties (out of 92) in Indiana which went for Hillary. SJW stuff happens here all the time. One of my favorites: Last year a Dominican priest, wearing his white garb and praying the rosary, was crossing the campus. There was a brief lock down based on the report of a KKK member on campus holding a noose.

    The modern equivalent of a devil-sighting in a nunnery.

  92. @Anonymous
    Most 'hate hoaxes'(which are really hateful crimes and defamation against whites and/or Christians) go unmentioned because The Power knows that exposing hypocrisy and BS is the surest way to undermine the authority of those who command the dogma/narrative. When do kids lose respect for parents or teachers? It's not when they realize the adults are imperfect(as all people are) but when they realize certain adults are full of BS who say one thing but do another. This is why it's especially damaging when a reverend is caught in a sexual or financial scandal. Because spiritual leaders yammer so much about goodness and morals, they look especially bad when they are caught with their pants down or with their hands in the cookie jar.

    What was the main reason for the fall of White Authority and Power in the West? As the Christian-Humanist-Enlightenment West was deeply moralistic, righteous, and even holier-than-thou -- "God is on our side", "White Man's Burden", "Human Rights", etc -- , it was especially vulnerable to exposure of hypocrisy. An amoral power like the Vikings, Huns, or Mongols didn't care about being righteous, but Western Power rose not only with guns and money but with the Bible and Enlightenment. Christianity was especially vulnerable to exposure of hypocrisy because it is so purist in its moralism; after all, Jesus even said "Turn the other cheek" and "Love your enemy."
    As long as the West guarded its Narrative and Agenda from accusations of hypocrisy, they held the authority, self-respect, and even the respect of non-whites. Sure, some critical whites could notice the hypocrisy from within, but their relatively mild rebukes led to reforms and progress that served as the basis for more moral pride: "We are not perfect, we made mistakes, but we work hard to make progress and improve things." This is why, for the first 100 yrs after the Civil War, America was not particularly burdened with guilt over slavery. The favored white narrative was, "Sure, slavery was wrong, but WE white Americans fought a war to end it." As long as whites held the megaphone, they could direct people's attention to the ultimate redemption of Western Civilization and White Folks via progress and reform, thus emphasizing pride over shame/guilt. As a result, the element of White Hypocrisy was muted.

    But then, Jews took over the megaphone, and one of their main methods of undermining White Authority was by exposing white hypocrisy and making it the central theme of Western History. So, at every turn, Jews condemned whites/Christians for having preached one thing while practicing another. If whites-in-power argued that their world wasn't perfect but made reforms and that such progress was a matter of pride, Jews emphasized the shame and guilt of white failures to practice what they preached. As such, whites no longer deserved moral authority, and if whites were to gain a measure of redemption, they had to surrender to the moral authority of Jews(and their allies, mainly blacks and homos) who shall outline what whites must do in order to be rehabilitated: Total rejection of white identity and interests, even to the point where "It's Okay to be White" is 'white supremacist', blind faith in Diversity designed to turn white nations into white-minority nations, worship of Shoah as neo-religion, Afro-mania, Globo-Homomania, and total support of Zion & Wars for Israel.

    As ALL orders(and all individuals) are hypocritical to some extent -- practice almost always never matches principles or theory -- , the real issue is NOT "who is or isn't hypocritical"; rather, the issue is "who holds the megaphone that directs our attention to a particular hypocrisy?" When white power wielded the megaphone, it decided who were or weren't hypocritical, but when it yielded it to Jews, the Jews got to decide. And whites were vulnerable especially in the 20th century because of World War I and World War II(and Shoah). Prior to such cataclysms, despite setbacks and failures, it seemed as though the West was indeed making great advances on all fronts, industrial and moral. Enlightenment and People Power seemed to be creating a better and happier world. Yet, in WWI and especially WWII, all the themes of progress -- populist people power, mass communications, science and technology, social engineering, etc -- all piled into a total catastrophe. Once Christian moralism faded among whites, it had been replaced by the Pride of Progress, but even that failed for White Authority in the horrible events of the 20th century.
    That said, if white power had managed to cling to the megaphone regardless, its pride might have survived intact. After all, Chinese Communist Party has much to answer for, but as it has always controlled the megaphone, the main theme of Chinese politics is not the hypocritical discrepancy between what the CCP promised and what it delivered in terms of Maoism and then capitalism. Maoism was an utter disaster, and capitalism is hardly what a communist party should be practicing, and these are Easy Hypocrisies that could be exposed to undermine CCP authority, but not many talk about such in China because the megaphone of the CCP is about patriotism and unity and reversing the "100 yrs of humiliation".

    What do Jews fear most? They know from recent history what undermined white authority. They know of their crucial role in it. It was by exposing White Hypocrisy that denuded whites of respect and awe that they once held in their own world and even around the world. What was an effective weapon against whites can be an effective weapon against Jews. As long as Jews control the megaphone, they need not worry much since most people are not independent thinkers and just go along with the presented narrative. As control of media and academia is very expensive, it was easy for super-rich Jews to maintain a near-monopoly over the Narrative. But the internet changed the playing field, and there were suddenly many voices, from left and right, that began to expose the Jewish Hypocrisy. And in this, the Shoah increasingly became an Achilles Heel for Jews. It was with the Shoah Narrative that Jews made themselves out to be a saintly victim race that couldn't hurt a fly, no more than Norman Bates's mother could. Rather, we were told that the Shoah was the final culmination of goy madness that irrationally had always targeted Jews for all the problems of the world when no people were as innocent and decent as the Jews.

    People become more vulnerable to accusations of hypocrisy if they elevate themselves as high-and-mighty moral arbiters for all humanity, and Jews did just that with the Shoah Narrative. And this made Jewish Hypocrisy a real problem because it's not difficult to point out all the bad things Jews have done over the ages and are doing now. While a miniphone is no match for a megaphone, when there are so many miniphones on the internet exposing Jewish Hypocrisy on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and etc, all those voices add up to something like a counter-megaphone. It's like enough mosquitoes can drive a man crazy. And this is why Jewish Power is so hellbent on using their ethno-monopoly over internet platforms to shut down as many voices as possible because what brought down white authority can bring down Jewish authority.

    Authority is key because wealth and privilege are not enough. Even now, white gentiles have the bulk of the wealth in the US, but they totally lack authority. Even grubby non-whites who just got off the boat feel emboldened to spit on whitey as indeed many Hindus do. Blacks are poorer than whites, but they have great moral authority due to the prevailing narrative pushed by the Jewish megaphone. Currently, Jewish Power is rife with hypocrisies of all kinds. Jews talk of equality but are the most unequal people. Jews talk of the evil of 'hate', but they run Hollywood that makes hateful movies about the Other, especially Muslims and Russians. Jews talk about the dangers of misogyny, but they control porn and made billions from rap music where women are 'bitchass hos'. Jews bitch about atavistic nationalism, but they demand that we all support Israel, the Jewish homeland. Jews call for War on Terror, but they've been working with terrorists against Assad. They say we must remember the Shoah, but radical Jews played a key role in mass killings in the 20th century. Jews berate Russia for all sorts of evil, but the reason why a man like Putin came to power is because of Jewish oligarchic malfeasance in the 90s. And so on and on.

    All we need to do is point out the Jewish Hypocrisy, and that could lead to loss of Jewish Authority. Jews could have all the wealth in the world, but without the element of authority, they would lose respect/reverence, and then they would be easy target of criticism and rebuke. And that's why there is growing censchwarship on internet platforms.
    But for how long can Jews hold out against accusations of wanton hypocrisy that has paradoxically gotten worse precisely because of Jewish suppression of criticism of Jews. Without healthy criticism and debate, a power grows ever more corrupt and vile, and then there is even greater hypocritical distance between what it preaches and what it practices. Shielded from criticism, Jewish Power has grown more obnoxious in foulness and made the hypocrisy even worse, and that means Jews must suppress criticism even more, but then it compounds Jewish vileness even more. But I'm sure Jews will remind us that they are for 'free speech, not hate speech', what with 'hate' being defined by themselves. AIPAC's call for more 'genocide' of Palestinians apparently isn't 'hate'.

    Too long. Revise and edit before post.

    For better or worse, the awed reverence with which Jews were regarded after WWII is gone and will never return.

  93. @Paleoconn
    Liberace was great on the piano, but he sucked on the organ.

    What’s better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ.

  94. @J.Ross
    Yeah because this, granting a culturally-appropriating gentile assailant, isn't still the most proprietarily Jewish thing in the universe. The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.

    The Creator God of Genesis and matzoh bread are less Jewish then loudly discovering a swastika and then demanding political favors and social capital.

    There is no inherent Jewish identity or characteristic divorced from Judaism. (Incidentally, this contention of mine is consistent with demographic statistics and trends.) The reprehensible ideology and behaviors cited by yourself and others in this thread (see below) are not sanctioned by Judaism, and even emphatically prohibited and condemned by Judaism.[1] Thus, Jews who exhibit such behaviors and ideology do so in spite of their Judaic heritage. (Many such Jews are avowed atheists. Atheism, by definition, is a complete disavowal of the very core of Judaism. Others espouse various forms of pseudo-Judaism, all of which pervert actual Judaism.)

    Anon 425 (Priss Factor) wrote:

    and if whites were to gain a measure of redemption, they had to surrender to the moral authority of Jews(and their allies, mainly blacks and homos) who shall outline what whites must do in order to be rehabilitated: Total rejection of white identity and interests, even to the point where “It’s Okay to be White” is ‘white supremacist’, blind faith in Diversity designed to turn white nations into white-minority nations, worship of Shoah as neo-religion, Afro-mania, Globo-Homomania, and total support of Zion & Wars for Israel.

    What I wrote above applies to all that you have cited here.

    Judaism rivals any religion in condemning degeneracy such as buggery.

    Zionism is an idolatrous heresy. (Admittedly, one that has unfortunately misled even many otherwise Orthodox and devout Jews.) The authentic Judaic view is that Jews are in a divinely-decried exile which only the All-mighty, through his Messiah (i.e., Moshiakh; Anointed One) can redeem us from. Until such deliverance, which we pray for daily, we are commanded to live as loyal, law-abiding citizens of our host nations. And we are forbidden both from establishing sovereignty in the Holy Land*, as well as from rebelling against the nations in which we live.

    For Jews who actually live authentic Judaism, the Holocaust is far from central.

    These facts are elided by those, such as the author of the post I quoted above (i.e., Anon 425/ Priss Factor), who conflate Judaism, Jews, Zionism, etc., lumping all into a fantastical monolith. (That and some other flaws and weaknesses acknowledged, I will note that I have nonetheless enjoyed and appreciated much of said individual’s writing.)

    *The specific parameters and details of this prohibition are subject to dispute among the relevant authorities. What is certain, however, that Zionism, from its inception and in all of its forms (including the so-called “religious” variants), was rejected and condemned by a near-unanimous consensus of the leading rabbinic authorities.

  95. @Joe Stalin
    I hear Chicago Mayor Lightfoot is going to raise some more taxes in order to open the branch Chicago Public Libraries on Sundays.

    Presumably, this is to make them act as accessible public buildings to dump the homeless and bums by calling them 'heating shelters' or something. Last time I visited the library, the elevators reeked of vomit.

    Lori Lightfoot, what a name!

    I wonder how many people recall Chester Proudfoot, U.S. Marshall Matt Dillon’s quirky assistant in GUNSMOKE.

    If only we could have someone like Marshall Dillon set things straight today. Dillon was played by the truly redoubtable William Conrad (1920-1994). The lovely Miss Kitty was played by Georgia Ellis; Chester Proudfoot by Parley Baer; and Doc Adams by Howard McNear. (My familiarity with GUMSMOKE is limited-to the original radio version. Those who are only familiar with the television version ought to give the radio version a try.)

    [MORE]

    In a documentary piece about the show that is included in the full set I linked-to above, one of the presenters referred-to Conrad as one of the “unsung heroes” of American acting. Although such a characterization might be justified by Conrad’s performance in GUNSMOKE alone, his extensive, versatile career includes many more excellent accomplishments. For an example of Conrad’s versatility, listen to his performance playing the eccentric character Ah Sin in Episodes #6 and #16* of The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen**– another of the true gems produced by radio’s Golden Age.

    *On the linked-page, these files are numbered and titled, respectively, as follows:
    7 Scarlet Queen 47-08-07 (06) The White Cargo Act and Ah Sin – 54:49
    17 Scarlet Queen 47-10-16 (16) Ah Sin and the Balinese Beaux Arts Ball – 49:26

    **It has been suggested that The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen was the inspiration for Star Trek.

  96. @Jack D
    Stang can be an Ashkenazi Jewish name or a German name but there were plenty of clues that this Stang wasn't Jewish - see Jane Plain's comment. Stang is a Germanic word meaning pole or rod or the shaft of a spear so it can be the name of someone who is tall and thin or whose occupation is to make such shafts or someone who is a soldier.

    His father is conspicuously absent from the story.

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