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From the Palm Springs Desert Sun:

‘Racist’ trees separating a black neighborhood from a golf course will come down
Corinne S Kennedy The (Palm Springs, Calif.) Desert Sun
10:52 a.m. Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2017 Atlanta News

PALM SPRINGS, Calif. — Palm Springs will remove a row of trees blocking a historically African-American neighborhood from a city-owned golf course.

…Many longtime residents of the neighborhood previously told the (Palm Springs, Calif.) Desert Sun they believed the trees were planted for racist reasons in the 1960s, and remained a lasting remnant of the history of segregation in the city. Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

Roberts apologized to the Crossley Tract residents for any wrongdoing by the city in the past and said he and the rest of the council wanted to make the necessary changes to ensure future generations didn’t have to deal with the same problems current and past residents faced.

Problems such as having unbroken windows and both eyes.

The Broken Windows theory of economic growth suggests that nothing will boost property values like golf balls no longer being blocked from smashing windows in this neighborhood.

 
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  1. Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    One thing for sure, I guess forest fires are good things. They burn down 'racist' trees.

    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don't visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.

    And it is time to get rid of walls around houses. They block the view of what's inside, and that frustrates black efforts to increase their wealth by taking their pick.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest

    , @(((Owen)))
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @27 year old, @Olorin, @Cloudbuster

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Haven't the eco-terrorists reacted yet, by deeming humanity racist/speciesist against trees? Humanity - of all colors - presume ownership of trees, up to and including murder! Now THAT's racist. REMOVE HUMANITY NOW!

    , @Anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_christmas.htm

    , @Neoconned
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This is like that thing in Denver the other week.

    I didn't even know Palm Springs had a"historical black area".....I thought it was old white snowbirds w an smattering of whatever working class whites are left and Asians and Latinos....

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Cloudbuster

  2. Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

    Yes, that’s what it was, the trees. Rich people never have trees in their neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @J.Ross

    As already reported by H.P. Lovecraft back in 1927:

    All at once one of the detectives at the window gave a short, sharp gasp. The others looked at him, and then quickly followed his own gaze upward to the point at which its idle straying had been suddenly arrested. There was no need for words. What had been disputed in country gossip was disputable no longer, and it is because of the thing which every man of that party agreed in whispering later on that the strange days are never talked about in Arkham. It is necessary to premise that there was no wind at that hour of the evening. One did arise not long afterward, but there was absolutely none then. Even the dry tips of the lingering hedge-mustard, grey and blighted, and the fringe on the roof of the standing democrat-wagon were unstirred. And yet amid that tense, godless calm the high bare boughs of all the trees in the yard were moving. They were twitching morbidly and spasmodically, clawing in convulsive and epileptic madness at the moonlit clouds; scratching impotently in the noxious air as if jerked by some alien and bodiless line of linkage with subterrene horrors writhing and struggling below the black roots.

    , @AnotherDad
    @J.Ross

    If i'm on the tee, you want your trees.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @J.Ross

    LOL. It never struck the Negroes in this Negro enclave that what has kept their property values down is their presence and not that of the Tamarisks bordering their homesteads.

    BTW, I have twice witnessed firsthand, the destruction of middle class neighborhoods wrought by an influx of Negroes. I have observed from a distance and with occasional visits similar destruction of several other neighborhoods. One observation I made early on, is that the presence of a new Negro family is almost inevitably signaled by the new property owners destroying every shrub and tree on their property. I have no idea why the Negroes, whom I have observed, seem to have this hostility toward ornamental plant life but, as far as I am concerned, it's an observed fact. This new data point seems further to confirm this fact.

  3. The tamarisk is native to drier parts of Eurasia and Africa. So that’s good isn’t it? The word invasive seems problematic in this context. In fact downright racist.

  4. I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I’d very much enjoy reading everyone’s predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Very soon it will not only NOT BE OK to be White, but illegal as well. At least White men will be illegal.

    That is where we are headed.

    And like Stalin's purges and the Cultural Revolution, while it may have been started by an arsonist, the fuel and added sparks were created by average people with a deep burning resentment. In Stalin's USSR, over jobs, women, men, apartments, promotions, etc. That poison still has not worked itself out and will take centuries to do so. China is a rats nest of knives, basically, with the same ugly one-up-manship like the Salem Witch trials on steroids.

    Here, it is based on race (non-White resentment of White achievement and very existence) mixed with gender (White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us). America's Racial/Gender Cultural Revolution and Red Guard / Red Detachment of Women will be even uglier, more violent, and create centuries lasting resentment.

    Even someone like Cornell West can see this.

    Replies: @Yan Shen, @istevefan, @MBlanc46

    , @The Alarmist
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Where it will end is the last non-POC apologising in 2050 for his existence and the original sin of slavery that it has kept alive to that point, followed by his thanking of his overlords for the beating to death he is about to receive.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    "It will all end in tears." - Peter Brimelow

    Glubb Pasha laid out the chronology. We are ticking every box.

    An economist I used to know once told me we've got 75 to 100 more years. The last time I saw him he said 50. Vox Popoli pegs the Big Break-up in the 2030's. So does Pax Dickinson. Malcolm Pollack used the metaphor of a closed physical system, and observes that temperature and pressure are increasing.

    One confounding factor is technology advances eliminating Scarcity, increasing volume to use Pollack's metaphor. But as our host has noted, we've already lost the civilizational capacity for extra-orbital travel. Like all prognostications, we'll find out when we find out.

    Apologies for wandering so much in response to your comment. Racial relations are one factor in a longer equation. More to your point, eventually the non-white KKKoalition will call for direct, coercive transfers of wealth to take Big Bad Whitey down a few pegs, increasing temperature and pressure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    , @Daniel Williams
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership think this racial craziness will end.
     
    When every racist tree is chopped down, and the pulp used for a fiftieth printing of Between the World and Me; when Germany finally atones for its historical injustices against Syria; when a black man can proudly sign his own name to a threatening letter or graffiti; when Ahmed Mohamed's cool clocks nestle between the Seikos and Timexes at your local Wal-Mart; when colonial Bushwick, Brooklyn is renamed Bushwick Bill, Brooklyn to honor the Geto Boy and his struggles; when every coed in America has been raped by a team-sports preppy; when the Grammys end with Nikki Minaj and Kanye West chasing Taylor Swift through the mud like the final scene in Tod Browning's Freaks: then we will be free.
    , @guest
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Where will it end? Race war. Duh.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Thea
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    I'm afraid it will slowly keep going like this for a long time. Generation after generation of no artistic achievement, no return to morality or higher purpose. Just brash materialist " give me your stuff whitey," more obnoxious harassment, more difficulty for whites to find jobs and more encouragements of young white women to not have white babies.

    I still don't understand how this happened to a once sane & productive people. Too much wealth & comfort makes one forget what matters I suppose.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    , @SimpleSong
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    The demographic stuff is at this point inevitable, but it is still unclear how it will play out.
    A unique aspect is that the underclass in the U.S. is not exploited but rather parasitic--unlike say the antebellum slave or the European peasant they are a net economic drag on society rather than the basis for production. This situation is going to get worse as automation increases. Most prior revolutions have resulted in more 'power to the people' and I believe most on the left are predicting that this will happen again based on historical precedent. But I believe we will see a break from historical precedent because of the lack of economic utility of the underclass in our case. Long term (>50 year) possibilities:

    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.

    The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.

    Replies: @bomag, @EdwardM

    , @Ed
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    I suspect it’ll end if and when white democrats say, “no mas” so approximately never.

    , @AnotherDad
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.
     
    It can only end with separation.

    But--as much as I pine for it--don't think that is happening. The likely arc for a betting man would be gradual Brazillification and decline of the US, while China rises to be astride the globe.
    , @bomag
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    ...think this racial craziness will end
     
    My first thought after seeing this story was that, once again, Blacks are appeased while giving nothing in return. Now they can tool up for the next demand.

    Liberal Whites are playing defense and slow retreat, giving up a few concessions here and there, with the expectation that, eventually, there will be an equilibrium: they will have their neighborhoods and their parts of the economy, while Blacks and others will be happy with the real and social estate ceded to them.

    They are banking on it ending along the lines of the Kurdistan model: retreat to a mountain redoubt and manage the conflict on the edges.

    There is a risk that it will end with the Haitian model: standing in the surf with the end closing in.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.
     
    There are any number of movies that lay out possible scenarios:

    Soylent Green, Logan's Run, Mad Max, Running Man, Idiocracy.

    Take your pick.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    , @gunner29
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    t


    hink this racial craziness will end.
     
    It's been 152 years since the Civil War. Lots of bad blood since then. So another Civil War within the next 3 years (Trump's first term, the leftys will start it when he won't resign and they can't impeach).

    The leftys will be bottled up in the big cities and suburbs and college towns; the rest of the country will be fly-over land or Jesusville. The leftys won't want to live in fly-over land, they love living on top of each other...so they stay in the urban areas.

    So two countries, about equal populations. The leftys will have to build walls around their ghettos, the best and brightest will start leaving when the rest of the insane leftys tax 100% of any income over $60K because it's not fair to have inequality of income. The SJW's will ensure this happening.

    Think in terms of the Berlin wall in '61, The B and B were leaving and the commies had to stop that...a wall will also stop the gimme-dats from flyover land sneaking into ghettos and getting a free ride...

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    , @Ragno
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership think this racial craziness will end.
     
    I used to be one of those who kept paranoia at bay by reminding myself that....well, never mind; it doesn't really matter how I kept paranoia at bay, because the rapid, no-brakes rate of descent of Western (and for God's sakes, read white - I insist) Civilization into the maelstrom that yawns before us has exposed whatever intellectualized faith I may have had in Saner Heads Prevailing as just another impotent incantation, one more busted juju, to toss onto the pile.

    Right now my new mantra is You break it, you bought it. But I try not to think about it too much.
    , @danand
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    https://isaac-newton.org/statement-on-the-date-2060/

    Newton said it would end in 2060, after the tribes have gathered.

    , @MBlanc46
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    As blacks have a number of psychological deficits compared to whites and Asians, blacks will always have inferior life outcomes compared to whites and Asians. Only civilizational collapse will end black whining and white Leftist deference toward blacks.

    , @Oswald Spengler
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    "I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLS12_a-fk

  5. Always be on the lookout for racist tree-planting activities.

    That is the eternal price of freedom.

    Also, Sailer will meet his doom someday by being discovered to have praised golf courses with racist landscaping schemes.

    • Replies: @David
    @PiltdownMan

    "praised golf courses with racist landscaping"

    Not just that, he also came onto them every chance he got.

    , @Henry's Cat
    @PiltdownMan

    How quickly we forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_swastika

  6. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

    Magic View. Ahhh, there’s the secret. Build a golf course in the middle of Detroit(with trees) and the view will boost black wealth. Who needs magic dirt? It’s the magic view.

    “Why da hood be fallin’ apart?”

    “Cuz da trees be blockin’ our views of honkeys playin’ goff.”

    This is like African superstition.

    Henceforth, all school books for black kids must show lots of pics of whiteys playing golf.

    Poor Jews couldn’t join golf clubs. Poor blacks couldn’t see whites playing golf.

    That must explain why Jewish wealth was so suppressed in the past…. Wait a minute.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Anon

    Poor blacks get to watch golf. Caddying.

    I used to caddy. On Mondays we got to play for free on caddy day. But the black caddies who worked the circuit, florida etc in the winter back north in the summer, almost never played, although they could.

    , @J.Ross
    @Anon

    There is a golf course in the middle of Detroit, Chandler Park, I pass it every time I go downtown because it borders I-94. There's another off Woodward. We could totally use more because one of our major problems is large areas of flat land in the form of abandoned neighborhoods and factories.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Anon

    Trees blocking view of golf course have prevented gentrification of black neighborhoods. As soon as the city commits to remove them, we can start moving in and enjoying the view of the mountains. The black folks get some extra money on their way out of town. Win-win. Let's face it. Higher property values only help sellers. If you are going to stay there, it just increases the cost of living because of higher property taxes. I'll bet not one black person there wants to pay higher rents or property taxes just so they can see a golf course and mountains. Seriously, how dumb do libs think people are that we can't see the obvious fact that they just want to take over that space for themselves. Blacks want to pay higher rents, indeed.

  7. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    Replies: @Anon, @(((Owen))), @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Anon, @Neoconned

    One thing for sure, I guess forest fires are good things. They burn down ‘racist’ trees.

    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don’t visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.

    And it is time to get rid of walls around houses. They block the view of what’s inside, and that frustrates black efforts to increase their wealth by taking their pick.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don’t visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.
     
    Indeed. The "trees are racist" meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/science/earth/03parks.html

    "...blacks the least likely group to visit. That reality has not changed since the 1960s, when it was first identified as an issue. The Park Service now says the problem is linked to the parks’ very survival."


    trees were planted for racist reasons
     
    We have impassible barriers in the form of cyclone fencing preventing nice homes from communicating with golf clubs in some places where I live, but as there are no negroes involved no one's done anything about it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    , @guest
    @Anon

    Mr. Show did a sketch wherein a Corey Feldman-type celebrity built a glass mansion on a hill overlooking a ghetto so the people below could be inspired. Maybe we should look into that.

    (He was a child star who wasted his fortune, then sued the government for not putting a warning label on paper money, or something. It was a fairly stupid sketch, poking fun at entertainment scandal programs like E!: True Hollywood Story. The part that made me laugh was that they kept cutting back to the same clip of the actor dancing in celebration, over and over again, as those cheapo shows tend to do. I guess it facilitates the editing process to recycle footage.)

  8. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    Replies: @Anon, @(((Owen))), @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Anon, @Neoconned

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @(((Owen)))

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand ...

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @NickG, @Barnard, @Olorin

    , @27 year old
    @(((Owen)))

    If this is true, maybe somebody figured using the racism card was the best way to get rid of these bad things trees. Like nobody would listen to the arguments you just made because environmentalism is dead, so they pivoted to racism accusations to accomplish the goal.

    , @Olorin
    @(((Owen)))

    Larix laricina is most certainly native to America and a wide range of boreal biomes. In fact the name "tamarak" or "tamarack" is Algonquin IIRC. Bendy wood for snowshoes and bows and wooden frames and such.

    Tamaraks/tamaracks are one of the Northern forest trees extraordinaire.

    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is "salt cedar."

    Jesus christ in the woodshop cussing because of yet another splinter under the thumbnail, but at what point is the "dissident right" going to stop being as stupid and lazy about the natural sciences as the left is, albeit in a different way?

    Get your genus and species designations straight, people!

    By the way, I wouldn't hustle to cut down all the Tamarix in California. The way youse all are going at it, you'll need them for mining salinization from the soil.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @AnotherDad

    , @Cloudbuster
    @(((Owen)))

    Wrong kind of Tamarisk. The evergreen Tamarisks at the golf course don't reproduce sexually in that climate and aren't considered a major threat, because of that. The invasive, spreading Tamarisks that eradication efforts are focused on, are deciduous.

  9. @J.Ross

    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.
     
    Yes, that's what it was, the trees. Rich people never have trees in their neighborhoods.

    Replies: @El Dato, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'...

    As already reported by H.P. Lovecraft back in 1927:

    All at once one of the detectives at the window gave a short, sharp gasp. The others looked at him, and then quickly followed his own gaze upward to the point at which its idle straying had been suddenly arrested. There was no need for words. What had been disputed in country gossip was disputable no longer, and it is because of the thing which every man of that party agreed in whispering later on that the strange days are never talked about in Arkham. It is necessary to premise that there was no wind at that hour of the evening. One did arise not long afterward, but there was absolutely none then. Even the dry tips of the lingering hedge-mustard, grey and blighted, and the fringe on the roof of the standing democrat-wagon were unstirred. And yet amid that tense, godless calm the high bare boughs of all the trees in the yard were moving. They were twitching morbidly and spasmodically, clawing in convulsive and epileptic madness at the moonlit clouds; scratching impotently in the noxious air as if jerked by some alien and bodiless line of linkage with subterrene horrors writhing and struggling below the black roots.

  10. @(((Owen)))
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @27 year old, @Olorin, @Cloudbuster

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand …

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Steve Sailer

    That’s what willows and cottonwoods are for.

    , @NickG
    @Steve Sailer

    Think of the opportunity for lucrative lawsuits.

    , @Barnard
    @Steve Sailer

    It sounds like the homeowners asked for a fence and a net to block any errant golf balls. Not sure how that is going to help with their view of the mountains.

    , @Olorin
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, if my experience among the high priests and priestesses of the ecorati on both coasts and in between is any guide...

    ...errant golf balls will be redefined as environmental racism, and punished accordingly with media campaigns, lawsuits, etc. Soon even a long putt will be too financially risky to assay, so golfers will go elsewhere.

    Then the greens will be seized and paved and developed into lucrative Hipster Hives. Which at first will intone promises of Affordable Housing, but the new Hives will be so unwelcoming of DeShaySagpantsia and his homeys, that they will need to be paid to move to the suburbs. Because the suburbs be So Appallingly White.

    Whenever you hear about how poor poor black people Can't Accumulate Wealth Because of Thing X, therefore we have to get rid of Thing X, you can bet there's a member of the financial elite behind the curtain, pushing for wealth accumulation alright. But it's the same old wealth accumulation as has played out back to Mesopotamia.

    "Racism," like concern about blacks in general, is a mask to conceal other agendas. Usually wealth accumulation that pays off the poor dim and feckless darkies to go creatively destroy elsewhere and skims the other 99.5%.

    Stories about how poor poor black people Can't Accumulate Wealth Because of Thing X are a genre, like cute animal tales or sports draft coverage or whatever disaster humans and physics have coughed up today. Actually it's closer to a fantasy genre. All of "racial equality" reporting is. But people no longer believe in dragons, whereas racial unicorns are okey dokey.

  11. Any statues to be removed?

  12. They came for the tamarisks, and I said nothing because I wasn’t a tree.

    • Replies: @athEIst
    @Holden McGroin III

    +1

  13. Did it ever occur to these dummy blacks that the REAL INVASIVES that whites imported to use as buffer against blacks have something to do with Tamarind than Tamarisks?

    What people like to drink Tamarind juice?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anon

    If you can find Tamarina (tamarind sauce) it makes excellent marinade.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  14. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    Very soon it will not only NOT BE OK to be White, but illegal as well. At least White men will be illegal.

    That is where we are headed.

    And like Stalin’s purges and the Cultural Revolution, while it may have been started by an arsonist, the fuel and added sparks were created by average people with a deep burning resentment. In Stalin’s USSR, over jobs, women, men, apartments, promotions, etc. That poison still has not worked itself out and will take centuries to do so. China is a rats nest of knives, basically, with the same ugly one-up-manship like the Salem Witch trials on steroids.

    Here, it is based on race (non-White resentment of White achievement and very existence) mixed with gender (White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us). America’s Racial/Gender Cultural Revolution and Red Guard / Red Detachment of Women will be even uglier, more violent, and create centuries lasting resentment.

    Even someone like Cornell West can see this.

    • Replies: @Yan Shen
    @Whiskey


    White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us
     
    http://www.courtneymilan.com/themes/general-images/keepme.jpg
    , @istevefan
    @Whiskey


    White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us)
     
    Is it just white women?

    Do Japanese women generally HATE HATE HATE Japanese beta males?

    Do Korean women generally HATE HATE HATE Korean beta males?

    Do Chinese women generally HATE HATE HATE Chinese beta males?

    Do Israeli women generally HATE HATE HATE Israeli beta males?

    If your answer to the above is yes, then why do those four groups not suffer from the same immivasion madness we do? Why do those four groups not appear to be ashamed of who they are?

    If you answer is no, then why is this phenomenon unique to white women? Is it something particular to them, or to the culture they inhabit?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @MBlanc46
    @Whiskey

    White women and NAMs teaming up against white men has the potential to bring Western civilization to an end. Will enough white women twig to that before it’s too late?

  15. @Steve Sailer
    @(((Owen)))

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand ...

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @NickG, @Barnard, @Olorin

    That’s what willows and cottonwoods are for.

  16. @Anon
    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

    Magic View. Ahhh, there's the secret. Build a golf course in the middle of Detroit(with trees) and the view will boost black wealth. Who needs magic dirt? It's the magic view.

    "Why da hood be fallin' apart?"

    "Cuz da trees be blockin' our views of honkeys playin' goff."

    This is like African superstition.

    Henceforth, all school books for black kids must show lots of pics of whiteys playing golf.

    Poor Jews couldn't join golf clubs. Poor blacks couldn't see whites playing golf.

    That must explain why Jewish wealth was so suppressed in the past.... Wait a minute.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @J.Ross, @Joe Schmoe

    Poor blacks get to watch golf. Caddying.

    I used to caddy. On Mondays we got to play for free on caddy day. But the black caddies who worked the circuit, florida etc in the winter back north in the summer, almost never played, although they could.

  17. Good. Let upper class Whites know won’t be able to buy their way out of the Diversity project that is destroying the White working class.

    I hope they are required to give free memberships to the poorest African Americans.

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @(((Owen)))

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand ...

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @NickG, @Barnard, @Olorin

    Think of the opportunity for lucrative lawsuits.

  19. It would be a hell of a lot easier to rob the honkies playing golf without the impediment of the trees.

  20. And yet there’s a real racial reason why most towns built a ‘greensward’ between the dark side of town and the white in the sixties. Free fire zones for cops chasing black kids back home after a car or house gets broken into. This isn’t a secret from anyone. Mostly they put trees on the white side and leave the dark side open.

  21. Problems such as unbroken windows and both eyes

    That’s exactly what I thought when I read the article on Yahoo or wherever it was. I used to live on a golf course (public, but still nice — Fred Couples learned to golf there), and I’d jog around it for exercise. Every now and then I’d hear balls smacking through the leaves and branches above me as I ran. Those poplars were like a screen, and I was glad to have them there. I also didn’t like the idea of golfers having a clear view of my yard and windows from the tee, which they would have without the trees. Who wants some half-drunk golfers checking out his wife from the tee-box?

    There’s got to be more to this story, because blacks like their privacy and windows, too.

  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    One thing for sure, I guess forest fires are good things. They burn down 'racist' trees.

    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don't visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.

    And it is time to get rid of walls around houses. They block the view of what's inside, and that frustrates black efforts to increase their wealth by taking their pick.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest

    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don’t visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.

    Indeed. The “trees are racist” meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/science/earth/03parks.html

    “…blacks the least likely group to visit. That reality has not changed since the 1960s, when it was first identified as an issue. The Park Service now says the problem is linked to the parks’ very survival.”

    trees were planted for racist reasons

    We have impassible barriers in the form of cyclone fencing preventing nice homes from communicating with golf clubs in some places where I live, but as there are no negroes involved no one’s done anything about it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, but that Times article just keeps on giving, as Times articles are wont to do.


    When Ms. Winfrey visited Yosemite this month to tape her show, Mr. Johnson said, he was not surprised to hear that it was her first trip to the park and her first time camping. He said he was more likely to meet someone from Finland or Israel in the park than from, say, Harlem or Oakland, Calif.
     
    Thanks to the Internet I was able to track down a photo of the interior of Oprah's and Gayle's tent:

    https://redtentmovie.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dsc_3568.jpg

    Nina Roberts, a former education specialist for the Park Service who is an associate professor of recreation, parks and tourism at San Francisco State University, said her research showed that many blacks were anxious about the people they might encounter in the parks...
     
    IKR? There's so much racist crime against blacks, especially in the parks.

    “It’s all layered,” said Carolyn Finney, an assistant professor of environmental science policy at the University of California, Berkeley, who is working on a book about blacks’ relationship to the natural environment.
     
    OMG. So true.
    , @njguy73
    @Anonymous


    Indeed. The “trees are racist” meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.
     
    OK, so am I supposed to hug trees in the name of Gaia, or chop them down in the name of anti-racism?

    I'm so confused.
  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don’t visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.
     
    Indeed. The "trees are racist" meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/science/earth/03parks.html

    "...blacks the least likely group to visit. That reality has not changed since the 1960s, when it was first identified as an issue. The Park Service now says the problem is linked to the parks’ very survival."


    trees were planted for racist reasons
     
    We have impassible barriers in the form of cyclone fencing preventing nice homes from communicating with golf clubs in some places where I live, but as there are no negroes involved no one's done anything about it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    Sorry, but that Times article just keeps on giving, as Times articles are wont to do.

    When Ms. Winfrey visited Yosemite this month to tape her show, Mr. Johnson said, he was not surprised to hear that it was her first trip to the park and her first time camping. He said he was more likely to meet someone from Finland or Israel in the park than from, say, Harlem or Oakland, Calif.

    Thanks to the Internet I was able to track down a photo of the interior of Oprah’s and Gayle’s tent:

    Nina Roberts, a former education specialist for the Park Service who is an associate professor of recreation, parks and tourism at San Francisco State University, said her research showed that many blacks were anxious about the people they might encounter in the parks…

    IKR? There’s so much racist crime against blacks, especially in the parks.

    “It’s all layered,” said Carolyn Finney, an assistant professor of environmental science policy at the University of California, Berkeley, who is working on a book about blacks’ relationship to the natural environment.

    OMG. So true.

    • LOL: bomag
  24. April 23, 2023 — The remaining blacks in Crossley Tract complained bitterly about the racist gentrification that has been occurring in their neighborhood since the trees came down. …

    • Replies: @jon
    @midtown


    April 23, 2023 — The remaining blacks in Crossley Tract complained bitterly about the racist gentrification that has been occurring in their neighborhood since the trees came down. …
     
    Exactly. This neighborhood becomes white in a year.
  25. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    Replies: @Anon, @(((Owen))), @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Anon, @Neoconned

    Haven’t the eco-terrorists reacted yet, by deeming humanity racist/speciesist against trees? Humanity – of all colors – presume ownership of trees, up to and including murder! Now THAT’s racist. REMOVE HUMANITY NOW!

  26. @Steve Sailer
    @(((Owen)))

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand ...

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @NickG, @Barnard, @Olorin

    It sounds like the homeowners asked for a fence and a net to block any errant golf balls. Not sure how that is going to help with their view of the mountains.

  27. Racist trees that suppress the black man’s view, or SJW trees that protect black man’s windows from racist white balls? You decide.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @The Alarmist

    At least it's not as racist as snooker. The white ball gets to hit the yellows, reds etc off the table until there's just the black left, and then you pot that too. Like the history of America. Very triggering.

  28. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    Where it will end is the last non-POC apologising in 2050 for his existence and the original sin of slavery that it has kept alive to that point, followed by his thanking of his overlords for the beating to death he is about to receive.

  29. Shouldn’t there be a quid pro quo here. We take the trees down, you agree to keep your property in a manner befitting a golf course lot. Seems like a win/win. Golf course gets rid of invasive species of trees, black folks get golf course lots real estate value.

    My guess is the realtor spearheading this isn’t necessarily doing for altruistic reasons but rather looking at buying low (shitty lots with shitty trees) and selling high (golf course lot with killer view).

  30. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    “It will all end in tears.” – Peter Brimelow

    Glubb Pasha laid out the chronology. We are ticking every box.

    An economist I used to know once told me we’ve got 75 to 100 more years. The last time I saw him he said 50. Vox Popoli pegs the Big Break-up in the 2030’s. So does Pax Dickinson. Malcolm Pollack used the metaphor of a closed physical system, and observes that temperature and pressure are increasing.

    One confounding factor is technology advances eliminating Scarcity, increasing volume to use Pollack’s metaphor. But as our host has noted, we’ve already lost the civilizational capacity for extra-orbital travel. Like all prognostications, we’ll find out when we find out.

    Apologies for wandering so much in response to your comment. Racial relations are one factor in a longer equation. More to your point, eventually the non-white KKKoalition will call for direct, coercive transfers of wealth to take Big Bad Whitey down a few pegs, increasing temperature and pressure.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Not sure where you've been, but the tax structure is already doing that. Things like the EITC and various other "refundable" credits are adding to the colossal transfers elsewhere in federal, state, and local budgets.

    We already have various filing statuses --it won't be much trouble to add a few more.
    The tax code has always been about who has power and whom they favor.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @njguy73
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Professor: "My next paper states that humanity only has 10 years before extinction."
    Department Head: "You know you can't get a full pension unless you've been here 30 years?"
    Professor: "OK, I'll give humanity 50 years."

  31. I live in Palm Springs and didn’t realize there were any (other than a token few, possibly) blacks living there. You have to go north to Desert Hot Springs, or west to Banning to see any significant black population.

    Of course, now that the entire council is homosexual, I’m sure they be promoting even more progressive policies to enhance the Palm Springs living experience.

  32. You, Me And Them: Experiencing Discrimination In America

    How Racism May Cause Black Mothers To Suffer The Death Of Their Infants

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/20/570777510/how-racism-may-cause-black-mothers-to-suffer-the-death-of-their-infants

    The part that I didn’t understand was how it doesn’t affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation.

    Racists are okay with and not racist toward immigrant blacks, but double down on their children?

    • Replies: @helena
    @iffen

    "The part that I didn’t understand was how it doesn’t affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation. "

    "The grandchildren of African immigrant women were born smaller than their mothers had been at birth.... So, there was something about growing up black in the United States and then bearing a child that was associated with lower birth weight," says David.

    Get it? The first generation doesn't grow up with stress but the second generation does.

    You're welcome.

    Replies: @iffen

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    @iffen

    How do they explain the high birthrate among the oppressed Irish, which prompted Swift's "Modest Proposal"?

  33. @Whiskey
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Very soon it will not only NOT BE OK to be White, but illegal as well. At least White men will be illegal.

    That is where we are headed.

    And like Stalin's purges and the Cultural Revolution, while it may have been started by an arsonist, the fuel and added sparks were created by average people with a deep burning resentment. In Stalin's USSR, over jobs, women, men, apartments, promotions, etc. That poison still has not worked itself out and will take centuries to do so. China is a rats nest of knives, basically, with the same ugly one-up-manship like the Salem Witch trials on steroids.

    Here, it is based on race (non-White resentment of White achievement and very existence) mixed with gender (White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us). America's Racial/Gender Cultural Revolution and Red Guard / Red Detachment of Women will be even uglier, more violent, and create centuries lasting resentment.

    Even someone like Cornell West can see this.

    Replies: @Yan Shen, @istevefan, @MBlanc46

    White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us

  34. The trees are holding in the magic of the Magic Dirt. Once you cut them down this magic will spill into Tragic Dirt and everyone will live happily ever after.

  35. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership think this racial craziness will end.

    When every racist tree is chopped down, and the pulp used for a fiftieth printing of Between the World and Me; when Germany finally atones for its historical injustices against Syria; when a black man can proudly sign his own name to a threatening letter or graffiti; when Ahmed Mohamed’s cool clocks nestle between the Seikos and Timexes at your local Wal-Mart; when colonial Bushwick, Brooklyn is renamed Bushwick Bill, Brooklyn to honor the Geto Boy and his struggles; when every coed in America has been raped by a team-sports preppy; when the Grammys end with Nikki Minaj and Kanye West chasing Taylor Swift through the mud like the final scene in Tod Browning’s Freaks: then we will be free.

    • LOL: Abe
  36. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    Replies: @Anon, @(((Owen))), @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Anon, @Neoconned

  37. The trees aren’t racist, but yelling ‘Porterhouse!’ instead of ‘fore!’ is a little much.

    You know, there is an upside to living next to a golf course for enterprising teenagers. Collect golf balls and sell them back to the players at the turn. Symbiosis.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    That's not how society works anymore, not to mention teenagers. If they deign to pick up any golf balls, it will be for the purposes of target practice.

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    "It will all end in tears." - Peter Brimelow

    Glubb Pasha laid out the chronology. We are ticking every box.

    An economist I used to know once told me we've got 75 to 100 more years. The last time I saw him he said 50. Vox Popoli pegs the Big Break-up in the 2030's. So does Pax Dickinson. Malcolm Pollack used the metaphor of a closed physical system, and observes that temperature and pressure are increasing.

    One confounding factor is technology advances eliminating Scarcity, increasing volume to use Pollack's metaphor. But as our host has noted, we've already lost the civilizational capacity for extra-orbital travel. Like all prognostications, we'll find out when we find out.

    Apologies for wandering so much in response to your comment. Racial relations are one factor in a longer equation. More to your point, eventually the non-white KKKoalition will call for direct, coercive transfers of wealth to take Big Bad Whitey down a few pegs, increasing temperature and pressure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    Not sure where you’ve been, but the tax structure is already doing that. Things like the EITC and various other “refundable” credits are adding to the colossal transfers elsewhere in federal, state, and local budgets.

    We already have various filing statuses –it won’t be much trouble to add a few more.
    The tax code has always been about who has power and whom they favor.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    It is actually getting a bit better. Congress now requires kid SSNs for some of the refundable tax credits:
    https://cis.org/North/Congress-Takes-Step-Against-Paying-Illegal-Aliens-Stay-US

  39. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The trees aren't racist, but yelling 'Porterhouse!' instead of 'fore!' is a little much.

    You know, there is an upside to living next to a golf course for enterprising teenagers. Collect golf balls and sell them back to the players at the turn. Symbiosis.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    That’s not how society works anymore, not to mention teenagers. If they deign to pick up any golf balls, it will be for the purposes of target practice.

  40. @PiltdownMan
    Always be on the lookout for racist tree-planting activities.

    That is the eternal price of freedom.

    Also, Sailer will meet his doom someday by being discovered to have praised golf courses with racist landscaping schemes.

    Replies: @David, @Henry's Cat

    “praised golf courses with racist landscaping”

    Not just that, he also came onto them every chance he got.

  41. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    Where will it end? Race war. Duh.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @guest

    It's not the blacks pushing this nonsense.

    It's (post-)whites suffering acute status anxiety since somehow folks like us ended up smarter and savvier than they are. They're waging a war of desperation against us.

  42. IIRC, the tamarisk trees were brought in decades ago by the Southern Pacific Railroad to act as wind breaks alongside the tracks that ran from the top of the Beaumont Pass down to around Indio or thereabouts. The high winds in the desert created visibility problems for the train crews and also could blow enough sand onto the right of way to at the very least foul the tracks, if not cover them up completely.

    Anyway, it’s likely those trees were there when most of the current residents moved in, so they knew what they were getting. This is a little bit like people who move in near an airport and then complain that there are airplanes taking off and landing.

  43. @Anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    One thing for sure, I guess forest fires are good things. They burn down 'racist' trees.

    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don't visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.

    And it is time to get rid of walls around houses. They block the view of what's inside, and that frustrates black efforts to increase their wealth by taking their pick.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest

    Mr. Show did a sketch wherein a Corey Feldman-type celebrity built a glass mansion on a hill overlooking a ghetto so the people below could be inspired. Maybe we should look into that.

    (He was a child star who wasted his fortune, then sued the government for not putting a warning label on paper money, or something. It was a fairly stupid sketch, poking fun at entertainment scandal programs like E!: True Hollywood Story. The part that made me laugh was that they kept cutting back to the same clip of the actor dancing in celebration, over and over again, as those cheapo shows tend to do. I guess it facilitates the editing process to recycle footage.)

  44. So what if the golf course planted the trees to block the view of the adjacent neighborhood?

    Does anyone think that if the neighborhood was a trailer park full of white trash on meth there would be a problem planting the trees to keep the rifraff out of sight? Jeezus, this racial groveling is getting out of hand…

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Dr. X

    Well said.

  45. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I’m afraid it will slowly keep going like this for a long time. Generation after generation of no artistic achievement, no return to morality or higher purpose. Just brash materialist ” give me your stuff whitey,” more obnoxious harassment, more difficulty for whites to find jobs and more encouragements of young white women to not have white babies.

    I still don’t understand how this happened to a once sane & productive people. Too much wealth & comfort makes one forget what matters I suppose.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Thea

    That would certainly explain why it is the East Europeans are holding out against immigration. Even the poor East Germans are more pro German than their Western counterparts.

    You end up having to hope that the East does not become richer and the West is humbled.

  46. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    The demographic stuff is at this point inevitable, but it is still unclear how it will play out.
    A unique aspect is that the underclass in the U.S. is not exploited but rather parasitic–unlike say the antebellum slave or the European peasant they are a net economic drag on society rather than the basis for production. This situation is going to get worse as automation increases. Most prior revolutions have resulted in more ‘power to the people’ and I believe most on the left are predicting that this will happen again based on historical precedent. But I believe we will see a break from historical precedent because of the lack of economic utility of the underclass in our case. Long term (>50 year) possibilities:

    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.

    The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @SimpleSong

    Good analysis.


    2.) The splintering of the United States... The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.
     
    The splintering appears to be in full swing; those with enough money move to nice areas and pay protection money.

    The gov't is currently adversarial towards nice areas, with policies that mainline domestic and foreign vibrants directly into nice areas. The question is how many nice areas can last, if any can last at all.
    , @EdwardM
    @SimpleSong


    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.
     
    This pretty much describes Brazil, as commentors here like to note. Also Lebanon, where upper-class people (usually Arab Christians) can live well assuming they set up their own electricity systems, garbage collection, schools, security, etc.
  47. @PiltdownMan
    Always be on the lookout for racist tree-planting activities.

    That is the eternal price of freedom.

    Also, Sailer will meet his doom someday by being discovered to have praised golf courses with racist landscaping schemes.

    Replies: @David, @Henry's Cat

  48. @J.Ross

    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.
     
    Yes, that's what it was, the trees. Rich people never have trees in their neighborhoods.

    Replies: @El Dato, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'...

    If i’m on the tee, you want your trees.

  49. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I suspect it’ll end if and when white democrats say, “no mas” so approximately never.

  50. bored identity believes that’s all for good.

    That darn tamarisks were anyway such an awful temptation for any natural born tree-climber.

  51. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    It can only end with separation.

    But–as much as I pine for it–don’t think that is happening. The likely arc for a betting man would be gradual Brazillification and decline of the US, while China rises to be astride the globe.

  52. Wait. Just a few months ago we were told that not having trees causes crime in city neighborhoods.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/chicago-tree-canopy-map-2017

  53. I don’t care if the trees were planted in order to promote the greater gory of Stalinism & sodomy; who the Hell wants their local trees cut down?!? This SJW hysteria is getting into destroying-the-village-in-order-to-save-it territory.

    • Replies: @jcd1974
    @Kevin O'Keeffe


    I don’t care if the trees were planted in order to promote the greater gory of Stalinism & sodomy; who the Hell wants their local trees cut down?!?
     
    What they want is to destroy what ever they think the "white man" wants. If the golf course wanted to cut the tress down, they would be protesting that instead.
  54. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    …think this racial craziness will end

    My first thought after seeing this story was that, once again, Blacks are appeased while giving nothing in return. Now they can tool up for the next demand.

    Liberal Whites are playing defense and slow retreat, giving up a few concessions here and there, with the expectation that, eventually, there will be an equilibrium: they will have their neighborhoods and their parts of the economy, while Blacks and others will be happy with the real and social estate ceded to them.

    They are banking on it ending along the lines of the Kurdistan model: retreat to a mountain redoubt and manage the conflict on the edges.

    There is a risk that it will end with the Haitian model: standing in the surf with the end closing in.

  55. @Anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Not sure where you've been, but the tax structure is already doing that. Things like the EITC and various other "refundable" credits are adding to the colossal transfers elsewhere in federal, state, and local budgets.

    We already have various filing statuses --it won't be much trouble to add a few more.
    The tax code has always been about who has power and whom they favor.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    It is actually getting a bit better. Congress now requires kid SSNs for some of the refundable tax credits:
    https://cis.org/North/Congress-Takes-Step-Against-Paying-Illegal-Aliens-Stay-US

  56. Palm Springs will remove a row of trees blocking a historically African-American neighborhood from a city-owned golf course.

    Is that even true? That the neighborhood in question is “historically African-American”? How many black people lived in Palm Springs in the 1960s? Enough to constitute a “black neighborhood”?

    Isn’t Palm Springs the city that recently announced that it now has an all gay city council? Well, I’m sure that will work out well for them. Nobody plans for the future better than childless homosexuals.

  57. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    There are any number of movies that lay out possible scenarios:

    Soylent Green, Logan’s Run, Mad Max, Running Man, Idiocracy.

    Take your pick.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Mr. Anon

    You should add Zardoz to that list.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  58. @(((Owen)))
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @27 year old, @Olorin, @Cloudbuster

    If this is true, maybe somebody figured using the racism card was the best way to get rid of these bad things trees. Like nobody would listen to the arguments you just made because environmentalism is dead, so they pivoted to racism accusations to accomplish the goal.

  59. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    t

    hink this racial craziness will end.

    It’s been 152 years since the Civil War. Lots of bad blood since then. So another Civil War within the next 3 years (Trump’s first term, the leftys will start it when he won’t resign and they can’t impeach).

    The leftys will be bottled up in the big cities and suburbs and college towns; the rest of the country will be fly-over land or Jesusville. The leftys won’t want to live in fly-over land, they love living on top of each other…so they stay in the urban areas.

    So two countries, about equal populations. The leftys will have to build walls around their ghettos, the best and brightest will start leaving when the rest of the insane leftys tax 100% of any income over $60K because it’s not fair to have inequality of income. The SJW’s will ensure this happening.

    Think in terms of the Berlin wall in ’61, The B and B were leaving and the commies had to stop that…a wall will also stop the gimme-dats from flyover land sneaking into ghettos and getting a free ride…

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @gunner29

    ...so they stay in the urban areas.

    There's no food in urban areas. That trade imbalance is going to seriously favor the rural areas. We have the space to run our own factories. They don't have the space to start their own farms and ranches.

  60. “Roberts apologized to the Crossley Tract residents for any wrongdoing by the city in the past and said he and the rest of the council wanted to make the necessary changes to ensure future generations didn’t have to deal with the same problems current and past residents faced.

    Problems such as having unbroken windows and both eyes.”

    If Roberts can ensure blacks don’t have to deal with those kinds of problems in their neighborhoods, he ought to be working his white magic in Detroit, Baltimore and East St. Louis.

  61. @SimpleSong
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    The demographic stuff is at this point inevitable, but it is still unclear how it will play out.
    A unique aspect is that the underclass in the U.S. is not exploited but rather parasitic--unlike say the antebellum slave or the European peasant they are a net economic drag on society rather than the basis for production. This situation is going to get worse as automation increases. Most prior revolutions have resulted in more 'power to the people' and I believe most on the left are predicting that this will happen again based on historical precedent. But I believe we will see a break from historical precedent because of the lack of economic utility of the underclass in our case. Long term (>50 year) possibilities:

    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.

    The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.

    Replies: @bomag, @EdwardM

    Good analysis.

    2.) The splintering of the United States… The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.

    The splintering appears to be in full swing; those with enough money move to nice areas and pay protection money.

    The gov’t is currently adversarial towards nice areas, with policies that mainline domestic and foreign vibrants directly into nice areas. The question is how many nice areas can last, if any can last at all.

  62. We’ve established Healthcare Justice, Environmental Justice, Racial Justice, Climate Justice. Now we have progressed to Landscaping Justice.

    I demand Nationalized Lawncare for all! I can’t afford to take as good care of my lawn as my neighbors do and this is fundamentally unjust. The Federal Government must step in now!

    No Lawncare Equity, No Peace….

  63. @guest
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Where will it end? Race war. Duh.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    It’s not the blacks pushing this nonsense.

    It’s (post-)whites suffering acute status anxiety since somehow folks like us ended up smarter and savvier than they are. They’re waging a war of desperation against us.

  64. @(((Owen)))
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @27 year old, @Olorin, @Cloudbuster

    Larix laricina is most certainly native to America and a wide range of boreal biomes. In fact the name “tamarak” or “tamarack” is Algonquin IIRC. Bendy wood for snowshoes and bows and wooden frames and such.

    Tamaraks/tamaracks are one of the Northern forest trees extraordinaire.

    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is “salt cedar.”

    Jesus christ in the woodshop cussing because of yet another splinter under the thumbnail, but at what point is the “dissident right” going to stop being as stupid and lazy about the natural sciences as the left is, albeit in a different way?

    Get your genus and species designations straight, people!

    By the way, I wouldn’t hustle to cut down all the Tamarix in California. The way youse all are going at it, you’ll need them for mining salinization from the soil.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Olorin

    "...you’ll need them for mining salinization from the soil."

    And the Coachella valley, where Palm Spring is, has very salty soil. There's a reason the valley is dominated by the Salton Sea.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Olorin


    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is “salt cedar.”
     
    I'd thought the same thing "hey we got tamaracks right here in the good ol' USofA.

    But Owen is right. Both the article and he say "tamarisk" not "rack" and tamarisk is indeed the name for these salt cedars, genus Tamarix.
  65. @midtown
    April 23, 2023 -- The remaining blacks in Crossley Tract complained bitterly about the racist gentrification that has been occurring in their neighborhood since the trees came down. ...

    Replies: @jon

    April 23, 2023 — The remaining blacks in Crossley Tract complained bitterly about the racist gentrification that has been occurring in their neighborhood since the trees came down. …

    Exactly. This neighborhood becomes white in a year.

  66. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership think this racial craziness will end.

    I used to be one of those who kept paranoia at bay by reminding myself that….well, never mind; it doesn’t really matter how I kept paranoia at bay, because the rapid, no-brakes rate of descent of Western (and for God’s sakes, read white – I insist) Civilization into the maelstrom that yawns before us has exposed whatever intellectualized faith I may have had in Saner Heads Prevailing as just another impotent incantation, one more busted juju, to toss onto the pile.

    Right now my new mantra is You break it, you bought it. But I try not to think about it too much.

  67. @J.Ross

    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.
     
    Yes, that's what it was, the trees. Rich people never have trees in their neighborhoods.

    Replies: @El Dato, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'...

    LOL. It never struck the Negroes in this Negro enclave that what has kept their property values down is their presence and not that of the Tamarisks bordering their homesteads.

    BTW, I have twice witnessed firsthand, the destruction of middle class neighborhoods wrought by an influx of Negroes. I have observed from a distance and with occasional visits similar destruction of several other neighborhoods. One observation I made early on, is that the presence of a new Negro family is almost inevitably signaled by the new property owners destroying every shrub and tree on their property. I have no idea why the Negroes, whom I have observed, seem to have this hostility toward ornamental plant life but, as far as I am concerned, it’s an observed fact. This new data point seems further to confirm this fact.

  68. @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I recall reading sometime back that blacks don’t visit national forests because trees remind them of hanging. All forests must be cleared of trees so as not to trigger the Negroes.
     
    Indeed. The "trees are racist" meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/science/earth/03parks.html

    "...blacks the least likely group to visit. That reality has not changed since the 1960s, when it was first identified as an issue. The Park Service now says the problem is linked to the parks’ very survival."


    trees were planted for racist reasons
     
    We have impassible barriers in the form of cyclone fencing preventing nice homes from communicating with golf clubs in some places where I live, but as there are no negroes involved no one's done anything about it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    Indeed. The “trees are racist” meme is in full force, and let us not forget that many a negro was lynched by a tree (sorta) and if you mention that many a white man was similarly lynched you are as racist as the tree itself.

    OK, so am I supposed to hug trees in the name of Gaia, or chop them down in the name of anti-racism?

    I’m so confused.

  69. OT: Listening to President Trump and assorted Washington pols celebrating the passage of the tax bill, and a black congressman gets up and celebrates the benefits to single mothers. While I’m thinking that I don’t want any encouragement for single mothers, it suddenly occurs to me that 75% of black women are single mothers, so I guess that’s his biggest district demographic. Jeez.

  70. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    "It will all end in tears." - Peter Brimelow

    Glubb Pasha laid out the chronology. We are ticking every box.

    An economist I used to know once told me we've got 75 to 100 more years. The last time I saw him he said 50. Vox Popoli pegs the Big Break-up in the 2030's. So does Pax Dickinson. Malcolm Pollack used the metaphor of a closed physical system, and observes that temperature and pressure are increasing.

    One confounding factor is technology advances eliminating Scarcity, increasing volume to use Pollack's metaphor. But as our host has noted, we've already lost the civilizational capacity for extra-orbital travel. Like all prognostications, we'll find out when we find out.

    Apologies for wandering so much in response to your comment. Racial relations are one factor in a longer equation. More to your point, eventually the non-white KKKoalition will call for direct, coercive transfers of wealth to take Big Bad Whitey down a few pegs, increasing temperature and pressure.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @njguy73

    Professor: “My next paper states that humanity only has 10 years before extinction.”
    Department Head: “You know you can’t get a full pension unless you’ve been here 30 years?”
    Professor: “OK, I’ll give humanity 50 years.”

  71. @Steve Sailer
    @(((Owen)))

    Getting hit in the eye with a golf ball in your backyard, on the other hand ...

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @NickG, @Barnard, @Olorin

    Well, if my experience among the high priests and priestesses of the ecorati on both coasts and in between is any guide…

    …errant golf balls will be redefined as environmental racism, and punished accordingly with media campaigns, lawsuits, etc. Soon even a long putt will be too financially risky to assay, so golfers will go elsewhere.

    Then the greens will be seized and paved and developed into lucrative Hipster Hives. Which at first will intone promises of Affordable Housing, but the new Hives will be so unwelcoming of DeShaySagpantsia and his homeys, that they will need to be paid to move to the suburbs. Because the suburbs be So Appallingly White.

    Whenever you hear about how poor poor black people Can’t Accumulate Wealth Because of Thing X, therefore we have to get rid of Thing X, you can bet there’s a member of the financial elite behind the curtain, pushing for wealth accumulation alright. But it’s the same old wealth accumulation as has played out back to Mesopotamia.

    “Racism,” like concern about blacks in general, is a mask to conceal other agendas. Usually wealth accumulation that pays off the poor dim and feckless darkies to go creatively destroy elsewhere and skims the other 99.5%.

    Stories about how poor poor black people Can’t Accumulate Wealth Because of Thing X are a genre, like cute animal tales or sports draft coverage or whatever disaster humans and physics have coughed up today. Actually it’s closer to a fantasy genre. All of “racial equality” reporting is. But people no longer believe in dragons, whereas racial unicorns are okey dokey.

  72. @Anon
    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

    Magic View. Ahhh, there's the secret. Build a golf course in the middle of Detroit(with trees) and the view will boost black wealth. Who needs magic dirt? It's the magic view.

    "Why da hood be fallin' apart?"

    "Cuz da trees be blockin' our views of honkeys playin' goff."

    This is like African superstition.

    Henceforth, all school books for black kids must show lots of pics of whiteys playing golf.

    Poor Jews couldn't join golf clubs. Poor blacks couldn't see whites playing golf.

    That must explain why Jewish wealth was so suppressed in the past.... Wait a minute.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @J.Ross, @Joe Schmoe

    There is a golf course in the middle of Detroit, Chandler Park, I pass it every time I go downtown because it borders I-94. There’s another off Woodward. We could totally use more because one of our major problems is large areas of flat land in the form of abandoned neighborhoods and factories.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @J.Ross

    And yet the Golf Gulf remains.

  73. @Anon
    Did it ever occur to these dummy blacks that the REAL INVASIVES that whites imported to use as buffer against blacks have something to do with Tamarind than Tamarisks?

    What people like to drink Tamarind juice?

    https://i5.walmartimages.ca/images/Enlarge/901/158/999999-16229901158.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross

    If you can find Tamarina (tamarind sauce) it makes excellent marinade.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcestershire_sauce#Ingredients


    The ingredients of a traditional bottle of Worcestershire sauce sold in the UK as "The Original & Genuine Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce" are:
    Barley malt vinegar
    Spirit vinegar
    Molasses
    Sugar
    Salt
    Anchovies
    Tamarind extract
    Onions
    Garlic
    Spice
    Flavourings

    The "flavourings" are believed to include soy sauce, lemons, pickles and peppers.[10]
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

  74. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Invasive tamarisks? In California??

    Replies: @Anon, @(((Owen))), @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Anon, @Neoconned

    This is like that thing in Denver the other week.

    I didn’t even know Palm Springs had a”historical black area”…..I thought it was old white snowbirds w an smattering of whatever working class whites are left and Asians and Latinos….

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Neoconned

    Palm Springs, the municipality, not the entire metro area, is overwhelmingly homosexual.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Neoconned

    "I didn’t even know Palm Springs had a”historical black area”"

    It's a tiny neighborhood. 20 acres- you can tuck it in my back pasture. It was founded by a black man who intended it as a black neighborhood.

    The stand of trees is the least of that neighborhood's problems. The houses are close together. Many of the backyards are cluttered with trash, and many of the houses are run down. There's some kind of equipment depot on the other side of the neighborhood, to the southeast. Those houses aren't going to suddenly dramatically rise in value like the people in the neighborhood hope.

  75. From the article, their list of demands:

    Residents, led by real estate agent Trae Daniel, who moved into the neighborhood 14 years ago, have made four demands of the city. They include: removing the trees; building a 6-foot privacy wall for residents who want it; installing netting or something similar to prevent errant golf balls from flying into residents’ yards; and planting new trees similar to those seen along other parts of the course.

    So they want a barrier (maybe even a tree barrier), just not this barrier. Why not just cut down every third tree or so?
    And what are the odds that real estate agent Trae is spearheading this because of racism and not because he is the largest single property owner in the Crossley Tract?

  76. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    https://isaac-newton.org/statement-on-the-date-2060/

    Newton said it would end in 2060, after the tribes have gathered.

  77. @J.Ross
    @Anon

    There is a golf course in the middle of Detroit, Chandler Park, I pass it every time I go downtown because it borders I-94. There's another off Woodward. We could totally use more because one of our major problems is large areas of flat land in the form of abandoned neighborhoods and factories.

    Replies: @Anon

    And yet the Golf Gulf remains.

  78. @Neoconned
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This is like that thing in Denver the other week.

    I didn't even know Palm Springs had a"historical black area".....I thought it was old white snowbirds w an smattering of whatever working class whites are left and Asians and Latinos....

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Cloudbuster

    Palm Springs, the municipality, not the entire metro area, is overwhelmingly homosexual.

  79. I heard these trees were also anti-Semitic…

  80. @(((Owen)))
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tamaraks are noxious, filthy, nasty plants. They draw enough water to lower water tables in the desert and emit poisons from their roots to kill nicer plants nearby. They shed dirty grainy waste and sticky pollen in the summer. They form impenetrable barriers to walking without providing much shade or good bird habitat.

    They are not native to America, but to Asia Minor. Yes, they’re Turkish immigrants. And they’re unwelcome immigrants.

    Cities should be exterminating them wherever they appear, not planting them. The National Park Service, green fanatics that they are, nevertheless uses herbicides and even imports insect predators in a desperate attempt to keep the Tammies under control.

    Planting them is far worse than any ordinary racism.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @27 year old, @Olorin, @Cloudbuster

    Wrong kind of Tamarisk. The evergreen Tamarisks at the golf course don’t reproduce sexually in that climate and aren’t considered a major threat, because of that. The invasive, spreading Tamarisks that eradication efforts are focused on, are deciduous.

  81. @Neoconned
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This is like that thing in Denver the other week.

    I didn't even know Palm Springs had a"historical black area".....I thought it was old white snowbirds w an smattering of whatever working class whites are left and Asians and Latinos....

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Cloudbuster

    “I didn’t even know Palm Springs had a”historical black area””

    It’s a tiny neighborhood. 20 acres- you can tuck it in my back pasture. It was founded by a black man who intended it as a black neighborhood.

    The stand of trees is the least of that neighborhood’s problems. The houses are close together. Many of the backyards are cluttered with trash, and many of the houses are run down. There’s some kind of equipment depot on the other side of the neighborhood, to the southeast. Those houses aren’t going to suddenly dramatically rise in value like the people in the neighborhood hope.

  82. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Very soon it will not only NOT BE OK to be White, but illegal as well. At least White men will be illegal.

    That is where we are headed.

    And like Stalin's purges and the Cultural Revolution, while it may have been started by an arsonist, the fuel and added sparks were created by average people with a deep burning resentment. In Stalin's USSR, over jobs, women, men, apartments, promotions, etc. That poison still has not worked itself out and will take centuries to do so. China is a rats nest of knives, basically, with the same ugly one-up-manship like the Salem Witch trials on steroids.

    Here, it is based on race (non-White resentment of White achievement and very existence) mixed with gender (White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us). America's Racial/Gender Cultural Revolution and Red Guard / Red Detachment of Women will be even uglier, more violent, and create centuries lasting resentment.

    Even someone like Cornell West can see this.

    Replies: @Yan Shen, @istevefan, @MBlanc46

    White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us)

    Is it just white women?

    Do Japanese women generally HATE HATE HATE Japanese beta males?

    Do Korean women generally HATE HATE HATE Korean beta males?

    Do Chinese women generally HATE HATE HATE Chinese beta males?

    Do Israeli women generally HATE HATE HATE Israeli beta males?

    If your answer to the above is yes, then why do those four groups not suffer from the same immivasion madness we do? Why do those four groups not appear to be ashamed of who they are?

    If you answer is no, then why is this phenomenon unique to white women? Is it something particular to them, or to the culture they inhabit?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    Two things force women to accept betas, and stifle their past-murderous insatiable rage at a man for his having failed to grow past six feet:
    1 - Culture, tradition, and the whole rest of her family, let alone every single person she will see every time she goes shopping, insisting that she get married.
    2 - money.
    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites. Especially on the topic of marriage. No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
    Many nonwhites need money more than middle-class whites, and, among nonwhites with money, the felt need for money (regardless of the reality) is reliably stronger. Whites are often more okay with being poor or imagining that they're not poor. Rich Indians are arrested for defrauding Medicare to get their second million.
    Without the elimination of no-fault divorce and Title IX, white marriage is over. Muslims and Hindus need no government assistance to make sure their daughters get married, and will (for the foreseeable future) successfully fight any attempted feminist interference.
    There is a rough analog in the Jewish community, but it's not as bad and it's grotesquely overbalanced by the litter-bearing Haredim.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous

  83. @Olorin
    @(((Owen)))

    Larix laricina is most certainly native to America and a wide range of boreal biomes. In fact the name "tamarak" or "tamarack" is Algonquin IIRC. Bendy wood for snowshoes and bows and wooden frames and such.

    Tamaraks/tamaracks are one of the Northern forest trees extraordinaire.

    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is "salt cedar."

    Jesus christ in the woodshop cussing because of yet another splinter under the thumbnail, but at what point is the "dissident right" going to stop being as stupid and lazy about the natural sciences as the left is, albeit in a different way?

    Get your genus and species designations straight, people!

    By the way, I wouldn't hustle to cut down all the Tamarix in California. The way youse all are going at it, you'll need them for mining salinization from the soil.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @AnotherDad

    “…you’ll need them for mining salinization from the soil.”

    And the Coachella valley, where Palm Spring is, has very salty soil. There’s a reason the valley is dominated by the Salton Sea.

  84. @gunner29
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    t


    hink this racial craziness will end.
     
    It's been 152 years since the Civil War. Lots of bad blood since then. So another Civil War within the next 3 years (Trump's first term, the leftys will start it when he won't resign and they can't impeach).

    The leftys will be bottled up in the big cities and suburbs and college towns; the rest of the country will be fly-over land or Jesusville. The leftys won't want to live in fly-over land, they love living on top of each other...so they stay in the urban areas.

    So two countries, about equal populations. The leftys will have to build walls around their ghettos, the best and brightest will start leaving when the rest of the insane leftys tax 100% of any income over $60K because it's not fair to have inequality of income. The SJW's will ensure this happening.

    Think in terms of the Berlin wall in '61, The B and B were leaving and the commies had to stop that...a wall will also stop the gimme-dats from flyover land sneaking into ghettos and getting a free ride...

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    …so they stay in the urban areas.

    There’s no food in urban areas. That trade imbalance is going to seriously favor the rural areas. We have the space to run our own factories. They don’t have the space to start their own farms and ranches.

  85. LA Times This is only one State…

    40% of all workers in LA County (10.2 million people) are working for cash; and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card. (Donald Trump was right)

    95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
    75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

    Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals; they are here illegally.

    Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

    The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

    21 radio stations in LA are Spanish- speaking.

    In LA County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million, speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people, in LA County. (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times) Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.

    Over 70% of the United States’ annual population growth, (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York), results from immigration. Also, 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens

  86. @Anon
    Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

    Magic View. Ahhh, there's the secret. Build a golf course in the middle of Detroit(with trees) and the view will boost black wealth. Who needs magic dirt? It's the magic view.

    "Why da hood be fallin' apart?"

    "Cuz da trees be blockin' our views of honkeys playin' goff."

    This is like African superstition.

    Henceforth, all school books for black kids must show lots of pics of whiteys playing golf.

    Poor Jews couldn't join golf clubs. Poor blacks couldn't see whites playing golf.

    That must explain why Jewish wealth was so suppressed in the past.... Wait a minute.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @J.Ross, @Joe Schmoe

    Trees blocking view of golf course have prevented gentrification of black neighborhoods. As soon as the city commits to remove them, we can start moving in and enjoying the view of the mountains. The black folks get some extra money on their way out of town. Win-win. Let’s face it. Higher property values only help sellers. If you are going to stay there, it just increases the cost of living because of higher property taxes. I’ll bet not one black person there wants to pay higher rents or property taxes just so they can see a golf course and mountains. Seriously, how dumb do libs think people are that we can’t see the obvious fact that they just want to take over that space for themselves. Blacks want to pay higher rents, indeed.

  87. So just as there are GoodWhites and BadWhites, there are GoodTrees and BadTrees?

  88. Is there no end to the lunacy?

  89. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    As blacks have a number of psychological deficits compared to whites and Asians, blacks will always have inferior life outcomes compared to whites and Asians. Only civilizational collapse will end black whining and white Leftist deference toward blacks.

  90. @Whiskey
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Very soon it will not only NOT BE OK to be White, but illegal as well. At least White men will be illegal.

    That is where we are headed.

    And like Stalin's purges and the Cultural Revolution, while it may have been started by an arsonist, the fuel and added sparks were created by average people with a deep burning resentment. In Stalin's USSR, over jobs, women, men, apartments, promotions, etc. That poison still has not worked itself out and will take centuries to do so. China is a rats nest of knives, basically, with the same ugly one-up-manship like the Salem Witch trials on steroids.

    Here, it is based on race (non-White resentment of White achievement and very existence) mixed with gender (White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us). America's Racial/Gender Cultural Revolution and Red Guard / Red Detachment of Women will be even uglier, more violent, and create centuries lasting resentment.

    Even someone like Cornell West can see this.

    Replies: @Yan Shen, @istevefan, @MBlanc46

    White women and NAMs teaming up against white men has the potential to bring Western civilization to an end. Will enough white women twig to that before it’s too late?

  91. @istevefan
    @Whiskey


    White women generally HATE HATE HATE White beta males which are most of us)
     
    Is it just white women?

    Do Japanese women generally HATE HATE HATE Japanese beta males?

    Do Korean women generally HATE HATE HATE Korean beta males?

    Do Chinese women generally HATE HATE HATE Chinese beta males?

    Do Israeli women generally HATE HATE HATE Israeli beta males?

    If your answer to the above is yes, then why do those four groups not suffer from the same immivasion madness we do? Why do those four groups not appear to be ashamed of who they are?

    If you answer is no, then why is this phenomenon unique to white women? Is it something particular to them, or to the culture they inhabit?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Two things force women to accept betas, and stifle their past-murderous insatiable rage at a man for his having failed to grow past six feet:
    1 – Culture, tradition, and the whole rest of her family, let alone every single person she will see every time she goes shopping, insisting that she get married.
    2 – money.
    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites. Especially on the topic of marriage. No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
    Many nonwhites need money more than middle-class whites, and, among nonwhites with money, the felt need for money (regardless of the reality) is reliably stronger. Whites are often more okay with being poor or imagining that they’re not poor. Rich Indians are arrested for defrauding Medicare to get their second million.
    Without the elimination of no-fault divorce and Title IX, white marriage is over. Muslims and Hindus need no government assistance to make sure their daughters get married, and will (for the foreseeable future) successfully fight any attempted feminist interference.
    There is a rough analog in the Jewish community, but it’s not as bad and it’s grotesquely overbalanced by the litter-bearing Haredim.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @istevefan
    @J.Ross


    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites.
     
    I think the move to white, though admirable when it happened, is now a chink in the armor. I think if we still identified as Italian, Polish, Greek, etc., we might still have that pride in culture that you mention other groups still have.

    I believe when our Euro ethnics assimilated, intermarried and dropped their ethnic associations, it was at the time extraordinary. The US was able to take historic foes from across Europe and meld them into a somewhat agreeable group called whites. In my case I believe I have three or four conflicting ethnic backgrounds that should be at war with one another. Yet I have no civil war going on inside.

    However, I have little to no knowledge of my background and since I have so little of any specific one, it's hard to think of myself as anything but white or European. For me that is more than enough to feel pride. I find myself taking credit for all European things whether or not I have ancestry to that particular nation. But I guess most whites can't or won't do that and are easily gaslit into thinking they are the scourge of the earth.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
     
    Truth. Your entire post is frankly epic but I wanted to quote this part because it really made me sit up and notice.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  92. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    I don't care if the trees were planted in order to promote the greater gory of Stalinism & sodomy; who the Hell wants their local trees cut down?!? This SJW hysteria is getting into destroying-the-village-in-order-to-save-it territory.

    Replies: @jcd1974

    I don’t care if the trees were planted in order to promote the greater gory of Stalinism & sodomy; who the Hell wants their local trees cut down?!?

    What they want is to destroy what ever they think the “white man” wants. If the golf course wanted to cut the tress down, they would be protesting that instead.

  93. I think that I shall never see
    a thing as lovely as a racist tree

  94. @iffen
    You, Me And Them: Experiencing Discrimination In America

    How Racism May Cause Black Mothers To Suffer The Death Of Their Infants

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/20/570777510/how-racism-may-cause-black-mothers-to-suffer-the-death-of-their-infants

    The part that I didn't understand was how it doesn't affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation.

    Racists are okay with and not racist toward immigrant blacks, but double down on their children?

    Replies: @helena, @Rosamond Vincy

    “The part that I didn’t understand was how it doesn’t affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation. ”

    “The grandchildren of African immigrant women were born smaller than their mothers had been at birth…. So, there was something about growing up black in the United States and then bearing a child that was associated with lower birth weight,” says David.

    Get it? The first generation doesn’t grow up with stress but the second generation does.

    You’re welcome.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @helena

    You’re welcome.

    Thanks.

    Poor reading on my part; I completely missed the grand part.

  95. @Dr. X
    So what if the golf course planted the trees to block the view of the adjacent neighborhood?

    Does anyone think that if the neighborhood was a trailer park full of white trash on meth there would be a problem planting the trees to keep the rifraff out of sight? Jeezus, this racial groveling is getting out of hand...

    Replies: @Cortes

    Well said.

  96. @The Alarmist
    Racist trees that suppress the black man's view, or SJW trees that protect black man's windows from racist white balls? You decide.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    At least it’s not as racist as snooker. The white ball gets to hit the yellows, reds etc off the table until there’s just the black left, and then you pot that too. Like the history of America. Very triggering.

  97. First time I’ve ever heard that cutting down trees will make black kids smarter, politer, and less violent. Call it ‘Magic View.’

    • Replies: @helena
    @Anon

    Why should they not broaden their horizons??

  98. @Thea
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    I'm afraid it will slowly keep going like this for a long time. Generation after generation of no artistic achievement, no return to morality or higher purpose. Just brash materialist " give me your stuff whitey," more obnoxious harassment, more difficulty for whites to find jobs and more encouragements of young white women to not have white babies.

    I still don't understand how this happened to a once sane & productive people. Too much wealth & comfort makes one forget what matters I suppose.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    That would certainly explain why it is the East Europeans are holding out against immigration. Even the poor East Germans are more pro German than their Western counterparts.

    You end up having to hope that the East does not become richer and the West is humbled.

    • Agree: Thea
  99. @Mr. Anon
    @The preferred nomenclature is...


    I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.
     
    There are any number of movies that lay out possible scenarios:

    Soylent Green, Logan's Run, Mad Max, Running Man, Idiocracy.

    Take your pick.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    You should add Zardoz to that list.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @al gore rhythms


    You should add Zardoz to that list.
     
    Yes, indeed - an oversight on my part.
  100. istevefan says:
    @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    Two things force women to accept betas, and stifle their past-murderous insatiable rage at a man for his having failed to grow past six feet:
    1 - Culture, tradition, and the whole rest of her family, let alone every single person she will see every time she goes shopping, insisting that she get married.
    2 - money.
    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites. Especially on the topic of marriage. No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
    Many nonwhites need money more than middle-class whites, and, among nonwhites with money, the felt need for money (regardless of the reality) is reliably stronger. Whites are often more okay with being poor or imagining that they're not poor. Rich Indians are arrested for defrauding Medicare to get their second million.
    Without the elimination of no-fault divorce and Title IX, white marriage is over. Muslims and Hindus need no government assistance to make sure their daughters get married, and will (for the foreseeable future) successfully fight any attempted feminist interference.
    There is a rough analog in the Jewish community, but it's not as bad and it's grotesquely overbalanced by the litter-bearing Haredim.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous

    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites.

    I think the move to white, though admirable when it happened, is now a chink in the armor. I think if we still identified as Italian, Polish, Greek, etc., we might still have that pride in culture that you mention other groups still have.

    I believe when our Euro ethnics assimilated, intermarried and dropped their ethnic associations, it was at the time extraordinary. The US was able to take historic foes from across Europe and meld them into a somewhat agreeable group called whites. In my case I believe I have three or four conflicting ethnic backgrounds that should be at war with one another. Yet I have no civil war going on inside.

    However, I have little to no knowledge of my background and since I have so little of any specific one, it’s hard to think of myself as anything but white or European. For me that is more than enough to feel pride. I find myself taking credit for all European things whether or not I have ancestry to that particular nation. But I guess most whites can’t or won’t do that and are easily gaslit into thinking they are the scourge of the earth.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    I think the next time I see a Jew insisting that "Ukrainian" is a legitimate identity but "white" is a completely unimaginable impossibility I will demand to know from which of the twelve tribes he hails. It is the most normal and sensible thing in history for people to reorganize themselves, and there's nothing wrong with it if it's voluntary and beneficial.

  101. More racist view-blocking fauna:

    Council worker who sued for racial harrassment after overgrown desk pot plant ‘prevented him from talking to colleagues’ WINS his case – leaving taxpayers with more than £50,000 bill
    …Benyam Kenbata complained he was racially segregated and suffered discrimination because a Westminster council colleague’s desk plant blocked his view.

    The 34-year-old started a two-year legal battle after complaining it ‘restricted the ease with which he could hold discussions with colleagues’.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Mod: delete above, didn't proofread

  102. @Hippopotamusdrome
    More racist view-blocking fauna:


    Council worker who sued for racial harrassment after overgrown desk pot plant 'prevented him from talking to colleagues' WINS his case - leaving taxpayers with more than £50,000 bill
    ...Benyam Kenbata complained he was racially segregated and suffered discrimination because a Westminster council colleague's desk plant blocked his view.

    The 34-year-old started a two-year legal battle after complaining it 'restricted the ease with which he could hold discussions with colleagues'.

     

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    Mod: delete above, didn’t proofread

  103. The more these articles complain about invasive plants and animals, the better. We need more public awareness.

  104. @iffen
    You, Me And Them: Experiencing Discrimination In America

    How Racism May Cause Black Mothers To Suffer The Death Of Their Infants

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/20/570777510/how-racism-may-cause-black-mothers-to-suffer-the-death-of-their-infants

    The part that I didn't understand was how it doesn't affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation.

    Racists are okay with and not racist toward immigrant blacks, but double down on their children?

    Replies: @helena, @Rosamond Vincy

    How do they explain the high birthrate among the oppressed Irish, which prompted Swift’s “Modest Proposal”?

  105. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    Two things force women to accept betas, and stifle their past-murderous insatiable rage at a man for his having failed to grow past six feet:
    1 - Culture, tradition, and the whole rest of her family, let alone every single person she will see every time she goes shopping, insisting that she get married.
    2 - money.
    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites. Especially on the topic of marriage. No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
    Many nonwhites need money more than middle-class whites, and, among nonwhites with money, the felt need for money (regardless of the reality) is reliably stronger. Whites are often more okay with being poor or imagining that they're not poor. Rich Indians are arrested for defrauding Medicare to get their second million.
    Without the elimination of no-fault divorce and Title IX, white marriage is over. Muslims and Hindus need no government assistance to make sure their daughters get married, and will (for the foreseeable future) successfully fight any attempted feminist interference.
    There is a rough analog in the Jewish community, but it's not as bad and it's grotesquely overbalanced by the litter-bearing Haredim.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous

    No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.

    Truth. Your entire post is frankly epic but I wanted to quote this part because it really made me sit up and notice.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Thanks. When you live, work or go to school with most communities of nonwhites you see right away that they have not given up anything we had to give up, and in fact they're not giving any of it up any time soon. A major part of the whole Japanese anime thing, although it extends to plenty of other cinematic cultures, is the shock you feel when you see these "outdated" honorable male characters that would be impossible in an American TV show.

  106. @istevefan
    @J.Ross


    Culture is stronger in every non-white group you can name than it is among whites.
     
    I think the move to white, though admirable when it happened, is now a chink in the armor. I think if we still identified as Italian, Polish, Greek, etc., we might still have that pride in culture that you mention other groups still have.

    I believe when our Euro ethnics assimilated, intermarried and dropped their ethnic associations, it was at the time extraordinary. The US was able to take historic foes from across Europe and meld them into a somewhat agreeable group called whites. In my case I believe I have three or four conflicting ethnic backgrounds that should be at war with one another. Yet I have no civil war going on inside.

    However, I have little to no knowledge of my background and since I have so little of any specific one, it's hard to think of myself as anything but white or European. For me that is more than enough to feel pride. I find myself taking credit for all European things whether or not I have ancestry to that particular nation. But I guess most whites can't or won't do that and are easily gaslit into thinking they are the scourge of the earth.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I think the next time I see a Jew insisting that “Ukrainian” is a legitimate identity but “white” is a completely unimaginable impossibility I will demand to know from which of the twelve tribes he hails. It is the most normal and sensible thing in history for people to reorganize themselves, and there’s nothing wrong with it if it’s voluntary and beneficial.

  107. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I'm really curious where Mr. Sailer's esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.

    I'd very much enjoy reading everyone's predictions. After all, a new year is upon us making it the perfect time to wax all Nostradamus about the future.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @The Alarmist, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Daniel Williams, @guest, @Thea, @SimpleSong, @Ed, @AnotherDad, @bomag, @Mr. Anon, @gunner29, @Ragno, @danand, @MBlanc46, @Oswald Spengler

    “I’m really curious where Mr. Sailer’s esteemed readership (speaking of the majority of commenters) think this racial craziness will end.”

  108. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    No one on Earth is as culturally raped and desolated as whites. The most debased Red Indian is not looking at jail time, invasive journalists and a life of FBI monitoring for muttering about restoring the ways of his tribe. The first target and the prize from day one was the white family.
     
    Truth. Your entire post is frankly epic but I wanted to quote this part because it really made me sit up and notice.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Thanks. When you live, work or go to school with most communities of nonwhites you see right away that they have not given up anything we had to give up, and in fact they’re not giving any of it up any time soon. A major part of the whole Japanese anime thing, although it extends to plenty of other cinematic cultures, is the shock you feel when you see these “outdated” honorable male characters that would be impossible in an American TV show.

  109. @al gore rhythms
    @Mr. Anon

    You should add Zardoz to that list.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    You should add Zardoz to that list.

    Yes, indeed – an oversight on my part.

  110. @Anon
    First time I've ever heard that cutting down trees will make black kids smarter, politer, and less violent. Call it 'Magic View.'

    Replies: @helena

    Why should they not broaden their horizons??

  111. I once did a small project on the use of forest products amongst poor people in Mexico, Calcutta, and Harare.
    The Mexican team laughed out loud, “Only the rich have wood in their houses!”.
    The Indian team wrote copious lists of tree names in the full Latin classification.
    The African team said, “No way, trees are where the spirits are”, but when we mentioned bushmeat as a ‘forest product’, the team was re-enthused.

  112. @J.Ross
    @Anon

    If you can find Tamarina (tamarind sauce) it makes excellent marinade.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcestershire_sauce#Ingredients

    The ingredients of a traditional bottle of Worcestershire sauce sold in the UK as “The Original & Genuine Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce” are:
    Barley malt vinegar
    Spirit vinegar
    Molasses
    Sugar
    Salt
    Anchovies
    Tamarind extract
    Onions
    Garlic
    Spice
    Flavourings

    The “flavourings” are believed to include soy sauce, lemons, pickles and peppers.[10]

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @MEH 0910

    Tamarina is to L&P W sauce as the dead sea is to soy sauce.

  113. @Olorin
    @(((Owen)))

    Larix laricina is most certainly native to America and a wide range of boreal biomes. In fact the name "tamarak" or "tamarack" is Algonquin IIRC. Bendy wood for snowshoes and bows and wooden frames and such.

    Tamaraks/tamaracks are one of the Northern forest trees extraordinaire.

    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is "salt cedar."

    Jesus christ in the woodshop cussing because of yet another splinter under the thumbnail, but at what point is the "dissident right" going to stop being as stupid and lazy about the natural sciences as the left is, albeit in a different way?

    Get your genus and species designations straight, people!

    By the way, I wouldn't hustle to cut down all the Tamarix in California. The way youse all are going at it, you'll need them for mining salinization from the soil.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @AnotherDad

    If you are talking about the genus Tamarix, then say that. They are not tamaracks. Their common name is “salt cedar.”

    I’d thought the same thing “hey we got tamaracks right here in the good ol’ USofA.

    But Owen is right. Both the article and he say “tamarisk” not “rack” and tamarisk is indeed the name for these salt cedars, genus Tamarix.

  114. @helena
    @iffen

    "The part that I didn’t understand was how it doesn’t affect immigrant blacks until the 2nd generation. "

    "The grandchildren of African immigrant women were born smaller than their mothers had been at birth.... So, there was something about growing up black in the United States and then bearing a child that was associated with lower birth weight," says David.

    Get it? The first generation doesn't grow up with stress but the second generation does.

    You're welcome.

    Replies: @iffen

    You’re welcome.

    Thanks.

    Poor reading on my part; I completely missed the grand part.

  115. @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcestershire_sauce#Ingredients


    The ingredients of a traditional bottle of Worcestershire sauce sold in the UK as "The Original & Genuine Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce" are:
    Barley malt vinegar
    Spirit vinegar
    Molasses
    Sugar
    Salt
    Anchovies
    Tamarind extract
    Onions
    Garlic
    Spice
    Flavourings

    The "flavourings" are believed to include soy sauce, lemons, pickles and peppers.[10]
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Tamarina is to L&P W sauce as the dead sea is to soy sauce.

  116. @SimpleSong
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    The demographic stuff is at this point inevitable, but it is still unclear how it will play out.
    A unique aspect is that the underclass in the U.S. is not exploited but rather parasitic--unlike say the antebellum slave or the European peasant they are a net economic drag on society rather than the basis for production. This situation is going to get worse as automation increases. Most prior revolutions have resulted in more 'power to the people' and I believe most on the left are predicting that this will happen again based on historical precedent. But I believe we will see a break from historical precedent because of the lack of economic utility of the underclass in our case. Long term (>50 year) possibilities:

    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.

    The best thing the government could do at this point is design a legislative framework so that 1.) can happen peacefully.

    Replies: @bomag, @EdwardM

    1.) Privatization of the U.S due to extreme dysfunction of basically everything. Schools, retirement, policing, everything, is handled by the private sector. Gated communities evolve into complete private municipalities that provide everything from education to health care to policing to trash pickup. These entities will form coalitions to handle the bigger stuff and protect their autonomy. Governance will likely be semi- or non-democratic. Exile to the dysfunctional outside is a major punishment.

    2.) The splintering of the United States, which will then serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world as well as future historians.

    This pretty much describes Brazil, as commentors here like to note. Also Lebanon, where upper-class people (usually Arab Christians) can live well assuming they set up their own electricity systems, garbage collection, schools, security, etc.

  117. Interestingly, the rate of very low birth weight for both groups of blacks was around 2.3%, while for for whites, it was 0.5% (“Matched case” in Table 1 on the linked article http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199710233371706#t=article).

    Which suggests (heresy alert) that there are genetic factors at play.

  118. @Holden McGroin III
    They came for the tamarisks, and I said nothing because I wasn’t a tree.

    Replies: @athEIst

    +1

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