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Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up, such as this latest case. From Madison365:

Madison Indigenous arts leader, activist revealed as white
By Robert Chappell – Jan 3, 2023

Early in 2020, an Indigenous artist urged the owners of a new music venue in town to change its name.

It was called The Winnebago, after the street on which it stands. Many Indigenous people and allies let the owners know that wasn’t the best name for a white-owned music venue. One of them was nibiiwakamigkwe, also known as Kay LeClaire, a founding member and co-owner of the queer Indigenous artists’ collective giige, and budding leader of Madison’s Indigenous arts community.

It took several months, but the venue eventually relented and rebranded as The Burr Oak. …

One problem with that narrative: LeClaire wasn’t Indigenous, and was, in fact, profiting from the identities of Indigenous peoples.

Since at least 2017, Kay LeClaire has claimed Métis, Oneida, Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee, Cuban and Jewish heritage. Additionally, they identify as “two-spirit,” a term many Indigenous people use to describe a non-binary gender identity. In addition to becoming a member and co-owner of giige, LeClaire earned several artists’ stipends, a paid residency at the University of Wisconsin, a place on the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women Task Force and many speaking gigs and art exhibitions, not to mention a platform and trust of a community – all based on an ethnic identity that appears to have been fully fabricated. …

Goforth said the white community in Madison is especially vulnerable to this kind of deception.

“There’s this appetite in Madison to just really want (diversity) and want to believe it so badly,” she said. “It’s like a craving for it. We’re craving culture here. And so then when someone like Kay comes forward, dressed as she did, and, you know, really being a loud voice for Native issues, it was fully consumed.”

“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture? Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture. But I don’t hear that much anymore.

LeClaire graduated from Hamilton High School in Sussex, Wisconsin, where they were known as Katie Le Claire, in 2012 (despite later telling a Capital Times reporting intern that they were raised in Northern Wisconsin). They apparently attended the University of Wisconsin and in the summer of 2018 married fellow Hamilton alum Adam Pagenkopf, a research specialist at UW.

In a post on their now-deleted Facebook account during the wedding planning, LeClaire referred to themself as “a 20-something white woman.”

Despite all the 2-spirit nonsense and “they” pronoun, this lady seems really girly and into dress-up and arts and crafts. Apparently, you can make more money selling your crafts online if you claim you are an Indian and thus they are authentic Indian knick-knacks with culture.

LeClaire also purchased birch baskets from a crafter who is not Indigenous, then apparently scratched that person’s name off and replaced it with their own, according to photos provided by Landsem. Landsem said LeClaire gifted some of these baskets to friends; if they sold any, it could be a violation of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990.

… AdvancedSmite, the New Age Fraud Forum user who uncovered the deception, said the appropriation of Native identity is a larger issue than any one person.

They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.

“That’s not population growth,” they said. “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.

 
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  1. White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    • Disagree: Cato
    • Thanks: R.G. Camara
    • LOL: duncsbaby
    • Troll: Guest007
    • Replies: @Shamu
    @Anon

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: "“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?"

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Chrisnonymous, @Graham

    , @Bill Jones
    @Anon

    I agree.

    The speed with which the Swiss have fucked themselves up in the 60 some years since "female emancipation" is quite something.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Anon

    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Right, institutional power should be reserved for the likes of Lori Lightfoot and Catherine Elizabeth Pugh.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Anon


    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.
     
    Let's get it right: Women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.
    , @Ed
    @Anon

    Definitely one of the lesser Anglo contributions to civilization.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.
     
    I'm solidly with the Derb on this "We Are Doomed" point. And up at the front of the line is saying that you want a republican government of responsible productive men.

    But let's be clear: Women did not create our current disaster. Women are followers not leaders. They are highly conforming. They do what "society"--"the culture", media, their friends--tell them to do.

    Minoritarianism was not created by women. It was cooked up by Jews--mostly Jewish guys. Incessantly propagandized in universities and media, it--playing on some similar prejudices--pushed aside the old WASP--"Everyone should behave like a middle class WASP"--progressivism as elite ideology. And because--"Diversity is the health of the state"--minoritarian diktat is the next best thing to war, for boosting state size, power and reach, it has thoroughly grabbed a hold and entwined itself in our body politic and society.

    Women did not cause any of that. When I was a kid, the finger wagging, scolding, women did, was the same "church lady" "behave better!"--pro-social--finger wagging, that civilized women have always done.

    Women--particularly young impressionable, childless women--are basically the conforming, lemming like army that minoritarians/the super-state--holding the megaphone--have deployed against us. And worse, have managed to get women doing that instead of--delaying/minimizing--their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children.

    I'm with everyone here on the observation--and the irritation and frustration. It's ugly irritating, depressing stuff. But we can't just point fingers ... because women are not the cause, not the enemy.

    What we really need are strategies and solutions. How to get our women back on our side?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @superfluous man
    @Anon

    Why single out "white" women? It's not as if colored women are any better. It's obvious they're even worse than those cracker ass Karen bitches. Women in general are too foolish, too irrational, too anti-intellectual, too trusting and too easily fooled. They love to be told the lies they want to hear. What's worse, a serial killer of women on death row or the pathetic sob sister who falls in love and marries one?

    A Republic that lets nappy headed twats hold public office, much less vote, is doomed. Even the loathsome Hillary Clinton, the ultimate screeching white harpy, would be better than Kamala Harris, Maxine Watters, Sheila Jackson Lee or any of their stupid, obnoxious, corrupt, chimp faced, fat assed kind. At least white women aren't usually dumber than a dirt clod.

  2. Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up,

    This is a bit of a biased sampling, like sampling aircraft that get shot down rather than those that return to base. As “AdvancedSmite” says

    the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.

    Most race hoaxers probably just a tick a box on a form, keep their mouth shut and never exposed as no one has the time or inclination to look up their background.

    I know several men who claim negligible indigenous background making them officially Metis.

    • Replies: @Batman
    @AKAHorace

    Right. Your average race hoaxer in America is a black who can trace his lineage back to Nubian kings, the Twenty-Third Egyptian Dynasty, and Mansa Musa despite not knowing who his father is.

    Replies: @Nachum

    , @Kim
    @AKAHorace

    Because of this kind of thing, I am starting to confuse the meanings of indigenous and disingenuous.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @AKAHorace



    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women
     
    This is a bit of a biased sampling,
     
    Scott Alexander recently noted that when ChatGPT was asked to make 5000 profiles of imaginary liberals, they were almost all white women...

    They asked an AI - with no concept of what is or isn’t an offensive stereotype - to generate 5,000 liberal biographies and 5,000 conservative biographies. The result is a work of art. For example, the liberals are almost all women whose names radiate strong white college girl energy (plus a smattering of Latinas)...
    https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/how-do-ais-political-opinions-change

     

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @AKAHorace

    Speaking of hoaxes:


    FBI ups reward for info on pipe bombs outside RNC and DNC headquarters. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/fbi-reward-bomb-dnc-rnc-00076329
     
    In related news, OJ has also upped the reward for Nicole's real killer.
  3. Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, Bill Jones
    • Replies: @SFG
    @Redneck farmer

    True, and a lot of people probably have some distant ancestor from all the mixing-look at Elizabeth Warren.

    , @Guest007
    @Redneck farmer

    Universities have been trying to use the Middle Eastern/North African category to get Arabs and Egyptians from claiming to be African-American. Of course, these days many just use the vague Person of Color category to hide what they really are.

    Replies: @Seneca44

    , @slumber_j
    @Redneck farmer


    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.
     
    Well, sometimes it's just for money. In his "Niagara," Mark Twain has a bunch of Irish hucksters at the Falls counterfeiting Indian artifacts--with the big difference that they vehemently deny being Indians when confronted:

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/niagara.html

    The noble Red Man has always been a friend and darling of mine. I love to read about him in tales and legends and romances. I love to read of his inspired sagacity, and his love of the wild free life of mountain and forest, and his general nobility of character, and his stately metaphorical manner of speech, and his chivalrous love for the dusky maiden, and the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. Especially the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. When I found the shops at Niagara Falls full of dainty Indian bead- work, and stunning moccasins, and equally stunning toy figures representing human beings who carried their weapons in holes bored through their arms and bodies, and had feet shaped like a pie, I was filled with emotion. I knew that now, at last, I was going to come face to face with the noble Red Man.

    A lady clerk in a shop told me, indeed, that all her grand array of curiosities were made by the Indians, and that they were plenty about the Falls, and that they were friendly, and it would not be dangerous to speak to them. And sure enough, as I approached the bridge leading over to Luna Island, I came upon a noble Son of the Forest sitting under a tree, diligently at work on a bead reticule. He wore a slouch hat and brogans, and had a short black pipe in his mouth. Thus does the baneful contact with our effeminate civilization dilute the picturesque pomp which is so natural to the Indian when far removed from us in his native haunts. I addressed the relic as follows:

    "Is the Wawhoo-Wang-Wang of the Whack-a- Whack happy? Does the great Speckled Thunder sigh for the warpath, or is his heart contented with dreaming of the dusky maiden, the Pride of the Forest? Does the mighty Sachem yearn to drink the blood of his enemies, or is he satisfied to make bead reticules for the pappooses of the paleface? Speak, sublime relic of bygone grandeur--venerable ruin, speak!'

    The relic said:

    An' is it mesilf, Dennis Hooligan, that ye'd be takin' for a dirty Injin, ye drawlin', lanternjawed, spider-legged divil! By the piper that played be- fore Moses, I'll ate ye!

    I went away from there.

    By and by, in the neighborhood of the Terrapin Tower, I came upon a gentle daughter of the aborigines in fringed and beaded buckskin moccasins and leggins, seated on a bench with her pretty wares about her. She had just carved out a wooden chief that had a strong family resemblance to a clothes- pin, and was now boring a hole through his abdomen to put his bow through. I hesitated a moment, and then addressed her:

    Is the heart of the forest maiden heavy? Is the Laughing Tadpole lonely? Does she mourn over the extinguished council-fires of her race, and the vanished glory of her ancestors? Or does her sad spirit wander afar toward the hunting-grounds whither her brave Gobbler-of-the-Lightnings is gone? Why is my daughter silent? Has she aught against the paleface stranger?

    The maiden said:

    Faix, an' is it Biddy Malone ye dare to be callin' names? Lave this, or I'll shy your lean carcass over the cataract, ye sniveling blaggard!

    I adjourned from there also.

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    , @mc23
    @Redneck farmer

    All these people fleeing White Priviledge, god bless them all.

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Redneck farmer


    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.
     
    We were always taught to be proud of our Cherokee heritage, even wearing it as a badge of honor when the History Channel referred to us as "a family of horse thieves, cattle rustlers, and whiskey peddlers."

    But, hey, good look holding onto the country, paleface.
  4. Anonymous[914] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘We’re craving culture here’.

    Reminds me of an occasion a few years ago in which a very senior Swedish left wing politician, who happened to be witnessing a folk dance being performed by Kurdish immigrants resident in Sweden, publicly gushed about how wonderful Kurdish immigration was, and in particular how it brought ‘culture’ to a land with no culture (!!!!).

    Seriously, a man who thinks and talks like that is not only a damned fool, but can never, ever be trusted – anyone who shits on their own kind to aggrandize themselves either to foreigners, or other leftists, absolutely simply cannot be trusted with any responsibility.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous


    ‘We’re craving culture here’.
     
    To be fair, in the article that quote was from Chippewa Kristie Goforth, so it could be read as "we [Indians] are craving [Indian] culture here."

    Still, as your Swedish example demonstrates, there is plenty of self-negation among whites. Back at the dawn of SJWism I had a conversation with a Canadian actress who offhandedly remarked that "Canada has no culture" to explain why Canada needs all that foreign immigration.

    Actually, I sort of agree that Canadian culture isn't all that, but Canada does have plenty of culture brought from Europe. For example, that Canadian actress was performing in a stageplay about (European) opera at that time, which is archetypically high culture, even if not specifically Canadian high culture. But then the non-Euro immigrants are just bringing different cultural imports rather than creating authentically Canadian culture, so really all that her immigration enthusiasm is doing is replacing Opera with Bollywood, which doesn't seem like trading up, and in any case is still not Canadian.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Anonymous

  5. America clearly needs a Lady Susan Hussey to ask, when faced with over-wardrobed ethnic hoaxers from central casting: “Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?” Since the great Lady was thrown under a bus for her effrontery, she might be available for trans-Atlantic common sense mercy missions.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @TyRade

    America clearly needs a Lady Susan Hussey to ask, when faced with over-wardrobed ethnic hoaxers from central casting: “Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?”

    Perhaps we can replace the maudlin "Give me your tired, your poor etc." Lazarus poem with Hussey's “Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?” As Hussey would be an immigrant, she would have greater moral stature than Lazarus.

  6. But even the indigenous indian hoaxster

    Is part jewish!

    I mentioned in a previous comment that I was at dinner a few months ago and people were crawling across the table with ‘I’m 1/4 jewish!’ Followed by a lot of ‘I’m jewish because I eat this and this bread on Sundays’ chatter

    Where are the Aliens and why can they not take me away from all this b.s.?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Thoughts

    I mentioned in a previous comment that I was at dinner a few months ago and people were crawling across the table with ‘I’m 1/4 jewish!’ Followed by a lot of ‘I’m jewish because I eat this and this bread on Sundays’ chatter

    It's your own fault. As the Talmud says (Sanhedrin 23a)
    "כך היו נקיי הדעת שבירושלים עושין ...ולא היו נכנסין בסעודה אלא אם כן יודעין מי מיסב עמהן"
    "This was the practice of the pure-minded /scrupulous of Jerusalem .... and they would not join a meal unless they knew who was reclining, (i.e., eating), with them."

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  7. I was one of the 9 million who identified as Indian in the last census. Prior to 2015 my family was unaware of our Indian heritage, but after taking a DNA test we discovered my father was almost 1% Native American and my DNA is 0.4% Indian.

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American we would have more Indians than Blacks in the US. about 25 million white Americans are genetically 1% Indian and 50 million whites are at least 0.3% Indian. .While 99% of the Hispanics are over 1% Native American. The average Mexican is 40% Amerindian.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Good on you for that, Herman. Even if you have no Indian blood, you should fill out "Native American" on forms, if they still have that option and you were born here. That's as native as an individual can get.

    , @interesting
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    So you're using the one drop rule?

    , @Coemgen
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American...
     
    Hm, Ancestry DNA informs me that I'm 1% Basque.

    Should I start checking the Hispanic boxes; change my name to Eugenio; ...?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Telimektar

    , @Old Prude
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    If the Great White Father in Washington is lying to you, and your land is being overrun by foreigners, you share the Native American cultural experience. Check the box!

  8. Whatever… I give her credit. She gave up her hottie looks for wealth and advantages! Well, I guess that’s a good thing.

    They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.

    Guess what I just remembered about myself! No, really! Come to think of it, I’m setting up my own Tribe and you all can register for a small monthly fee. Then we start our reparations suit.

    PS. Calling people “they” just encourages them.

    • Agree: Renard
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack


    Calling people “they” just encourages them.
     
    It's truly confusing as all hell. For example, I first thought that it was the re-selling (by "friends") of those baskets with scratched out "Made in China by crafter Wei Bo" tags that is illegal. Now, I think he is referring to Miss LeClair and her 2 breasts selling them rather than gifting them.

    I need to know, because I sure don't want to get busted re-selling cheap China-made knock-off Indian baskets, across State lines.

    It was bad enough that, for 50 years, the feminists have pushed the use of "they" for 3rd-person pronoun for people of unknown sex, and then even for people with known sex.. ("During their last period, after imbibing 5 wine coolers, they went on a rampage in their Winnebago RV parked outside the Winnebago.) Now, when it's used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

  9. LeClaire was full of beans anyway.

    In her neck of the woods the tribe (nation if you must) would have been Sauk or Potawatomi. The Great Lakes people are particular and she was sloppy about it. That’s a no-no.

    She picked the wrong tribe to be a pretend Indian. Wrong part of the country too.

  10. This trend very much concerns me because it shows that the demoralization of European-Americans in their ethnic past has gone to another level, as white women are now actively deluding themselves and others and pretending they are other races.

    Especially given the tranny nonsense and “born this way” homosexual movement and all related wokism —- all created and sustained by propaganda and a fake psychological system weaponized by Marxists–, this trend will likely continue.

    We live in dark times.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @R.G. Camara

    Whites are so privileged we’re running away from being labeled white.

    , @Anonymous
    @R.G. Camara

    Meh. You get more of what you pay for.

    Our society rewards people for being nonwhite so of course lots of whites are going to pretend to be something else. Demoralization or opportunism?

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  11. Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that’s what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles… but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.

    • Agree: Kim
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Technite78


    Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that’s what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles… but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.
     

    Yep, "look at me!"

    Women just seem nuttier--incomplete--before having kids.

    Guys--particularly young guys--do all sorts of crazy stuff. "What if we ..." That's how we've changed the world. And, of course, kids change men to, but mostly the rather straightforward logical way--"I've gotta get my shit together and earn more money." I think it's more like a phase change for women.

    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college--study something of interest--and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects. And then in a couple of years had children and a meaningful--and socially positive--focus and purpose in life.

    Girls having these really long--decades long--periods of being sexually mature, but not actually having children--stuck hormonally/socially in the "notice me and take me as your woman" phase--just seems to bring out the crazy in women. And such pre-child women are now a much, much higher and more influential portion of our population.

    Replies: @Technite78, @mc23

  12. Though it’s often confusing, such as the question of whether this AdvancedSmite is some sort of partnership or LLC, the use of “they” seems reasonable to me here to refer to Kay “Nibi” LeClaire’s big beautiful breasts, plural. At least, that’s how I take it. Honestly, Kay LeClaire sounded a whole lot sexier than Kay Nibiiwakamigkwe even before I saw the pictures, but that’s just me.

    I’m also pretty sure from her actions that Miss Nibi is into more than just 2 kinds of spirits. It takes various forms of firewater to get them to do something this crazy.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @SFG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Seems rational, if dishonest. You’re into arts and crafts, get the Indian label and your stuff’s worth a lot more. You ride both the diversity train and the ‘braids, buckskins, and beads’ fascination people have had for a while with the defeated indigenous culture of North America. Not just on the left, either. At least one sculpture producer (what do they call these mass produced sculpture things?) that produced a right eagle wing (but no left) sold lots of Indians to go with the cowboys. My guess is they’re archaic, rural, and have a martial history, all of interest to conservatives.

    So it’s sometimes just another scam.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  13. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    I was one of the 9 million who identified as Indian in the last census. Prior to 2015 my family was unaware of our Indian heritage, but after taking a DNA test we discovered my father was almost 1% Native American and my DNA is 0.4% Indian.

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American we would have more Indians than Blacks in the US. about 25 million white Americans are genetically 1% Indian and 50 million whites are at least 0.3% Indian. .While 99% of the Hispanics are over 1% Native American. The average Mexican is 40% Amerindian.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @interesting, @Coemgen, @Old Prude

    Good on you for that, Herman. Even if you have no Indian blood, you should fill out “Native American” on forms, if they still have that option and you were born here. That’s as native as an individual can get.

    • Thanks: EddieSpaghetti
  14. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    I was one of the 9 million who identified as Indian in the last census. Prior to 2015 my family was unaware of our Indian heritage, but after taking a DNA test we discovered my father was almost 1% Native American and my DNA is 0.4% Indian.

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American we would have more Indians than Blacks in the US. about 25 million white Americans are genetically 1% Indian and 50 million whites are at least 0.3% Indian. .While 99% of the Hispanics are over 1% Native American. The average Mexican is 40% Amerindian.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @interesting, @Coemgen, @Old Prude

    So you’re using the one drop rule?

  15. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    I was one of the 9 million who identified as Indian in the last census. Prior to 2015 my family was unaware of our Indian heritage, but after taking a DNA test we discovered my father was almost 1% Native American and my DNA is 0.4% Indian.

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American we would have more Indians than Blacks in the US. about 25 million white Americans are genetically 1% Indian and 50 million whites are at least 0.3% Indian. .While 99% of the Hispanics are over 1% Native American. The average Mexican is 40% Amerindian.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @interesting, @Coemgen, @Old Prude

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American…

    Hm, Ancestry DNA informs me that I’m 1% Basque.

    Should I start checking the Hispanic boxes; change my name to Eugenio; …?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Coemgen

    The LAPD police chief identifies as Latino due to his Basque ancestry.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @I, Libertine

    , @AndrewR
    @Coemgen

    Go to Basque country and call the natives "Hispanic" and see how that works out for you.

    , @Telimektar
    @Coemgen

    Well the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe, every races and ethnic group on earth can be classified as native to their country/homeland except Europeans on their own damn continent. Oh and don't try to call Basques Hispanics here in France or Spain like AndrewR said.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Anon

  16. I always check the “Black/African American” box, and you should too. We could be 100% diverse!

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  17. @Achmed E. Newman
    Though it's often confusing, such as the question of whether this AdvancedSmite is some sort of partnership or LLC, the use of "they" seems reasonable to me here to refer to Kay "Nibi" LeClaire's big beautiful breasts, plural. At least, that's how I take it. Honestly, Kay LeClaire sounded a whole lot sexier than Kay Nibiiwakamigkwe even before I saw the pictures, but that's just me.

    I'm also pretty sure from her actions that Miss Nibi is into more than just 2 kinds of spirits. It takes various forms of firewater to get them to do something this crazy.

    Replies: @SFG

    Seems rational, if dishonest. You’re into arts and crafts, get the Indian label and your stuff’s worth a lot more. You ride both the diversity train and the ‘braids, buckskins, and beads’ fascination people have had for a while with the defeated indigenous culture of North America. Not just on the left, either. At least one sculpture producer (what do they call these mass produced sculpture things?) that produced a right eagle wing (but no left) sold lots of Indians to go with the cowboys. My guess is they’re archaic, rural, and have a martial history, all of interest to conservatives.

    So it’s sometimes just another scam.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    30-odd years ago when I was young and lusty, all sorts of girls from hippie to biker-chick had a Native American fetish - I think those "dream-catchers" are a thing to this day.


    https://heartofstoneshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/231_original.jpeg

    Replies: @Coemgen

  18. @HammerJack
    Whatever... I give her credit. She gave up her hottie looks for wealth and advantages! Well, I guess that's a good thing.

    They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.
     
    Guess what I just remembered about myself! No, really! Come to think of it, I'm setting up my own Tribe and you all can register for a small monthly fee. Then we start our reparations suit.

    PS. Calling people "they" just encourages them.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Calling people “they” just encourages them.

    It’s truly confusing as all hell. For example, I first thought that it was the re-selling (by “friends”) of those baskets with scratched out “Made in China by crafter Wei Bo” tags that is illegal. Now, I think he is referring to Miss LeClair and her 2 breasts selling them rather than gifting them.

    I need to know, because I sure don’t want to get busted re-selling cheap China-made knock-off Indian baskets, across State lines.

    It was bad enough that, for 50 years, the feminists have pushed the use of “they” for 3rd-person pronoun for people of unknown sex, and then even for people with known sex.. (“During their last period, after imbibing 5 wine coolers, they went on a rampage in their Winnebago RV parked outside the Winnebago.) Now, when it’s used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Totally agree.

    100% of the population speaks the language and 99.999999% of the population agrees on the meaning of the word "they". It's around the 25th most common word in the English language and yet this narcissistic bitch wants everyone else to change their understanding of the word when she's involved, even when's she's not there.

    But really it's not her fault, it's the fault of the news organizations and reporters who play along and don't think they are obligated to communicate cogently and clearly anymore.

    These weirdos are 100% free to call themselves whatever they want, but when they aren't actually a member of the conversation, the people whose job it is to record and report the actual facts should use the words we all know with the meanings we all know.

    Only when you are actually talking to these crazy people should the weird words and weird meanings be used, and then only by the crazy person. That way we all know we are dealing with a crazy person and the exposure is confined to the one crazy person and only when the crazy person is present.

    The rest of us, including reporters, should still speak proper English at all times, even when referring to the crazy person. As you point out, "they" would only be proper English if there were more than one crazy person being discussed.

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Now, when it’s used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.
     
    Singular is not case, it's number.

    A poster on New Age Frauds named E.P. Grondine claims Indian ancestry, Shawnee I think, and sells "hand-crafted leather Bic lighter sheaths" at "pow-wows" which term I find offensive.

    I'm waiting for someone to come out with a hand-crafted leather toilet paper coozy.

    He also says that it's very common for American Indians to be over seven feet tall and blames his poor typing skills on diabetes.

    Sadly it appears there are no nudes, either of Mister Grondine or Miss LeClaire. This reader finds the white version hotter, but to each his own.

    It's always been my understanding that Basques are not Spanish, therefore not Hispanic. What about the Basques living in France? Biarritz is famously Basque country.

    Replies: @Iberian

  19. @Redneck farmer
    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Replies: @SFG, @Guest007, @slumber_j, @mc23, @Veteran Aryan

    True, and a lot of people probably have some distant ancestor from all the mixing-look at Elizabeth Warren.

  20. They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.

    I don’t know where these activists get their census numbers, but it’s apparently not from the US Census Bureau. The Census Bureau’s quickfacts page gives the 2021 American Indian (including Alaskan) portion of the population as 1.3%, which works out to 4.3 million people. If you toss in Native Hawaiian (whom I don’t think “they” would—usually this category is rolled into Asian and Pacific Islander) you can get it up to about 5 million, which is still a far cry from “well over nine million”.

    The activist does have a kinda sorta point though that the “Native American” population did grow suspiciously quickly lately, even if not by the enormous “85%” claim. There are several possible explanations for this, not mutually exclusive.

    “That’s not population growth,” they said.

    The activist is probably correct that a portion of the growth is transracialism, or “flight from white” in Steve’s characteristically memorable coinage.

    “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.

    Indians are unique in the US in that they keep their own counts of their numbers, which so far as I know have never been compared to the Census Bureau number. It would be interesting to see a comparison.

    I’ve never heard if the Tribes have totaled up their various Tribal Rolls into a grand national number. Maybe so, and that’s where the “well over nine million” figure comes from? If so, that would be funny/strange if the Tribes think there are more than twice as many Indians as the Feds think, since that would mean Americans are Federally underclaiming Indianhood rather than overclaiming it.

    [MORE]

    Photos from the article of women whom the article says are actual enrolled Tribal members:

    Arvina Martin looks unsettlingly like Kamala “dot Indian” Harris.

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Almost Missouri

    One would think that the Bureau of Indian Affairs could total up the number of recognized tribal members in less than a day.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charlotte

    , @Travis
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html

    In 2020, the American Indian alone population (3.7 million) accounted for 1.1% of all people living in the United States, compared with 0.9% (2.9 million) in 2010.

    An additional 5.9 million people identified as American India and another race group, such as White or Black. Together, the American Indian alone or in combination population comprised 9.7 million people (2.9% of the total population) in 2020, up from 5.2 million (1.7%) in 2010.

    One reason for the tremendous growth in the Indian population is due to genetic testing which was not widely used prior to 2010. I had no idea that my children had significant Native American ancestry until they did DNA testing in 2012 which showed they were 8% Native American. On the 2010 census they were counted as white alone, but in 2020 they were counted as being mixed race. We were surprised to discover our children had significant Indian DNA, since my wife always insisted she had zero Indian ancestry. But DNA testing indicates my wife is actually 16% Indian. She is Chilean so it was not a complete surprise to me. But her family still insists they have no Indian heritage. Without DNA testing I would have assumed my wife was 95% European, but knew she probably had some Amerindian ancestry from her mother (my mother in-law looks like Lynda Carter)

    Replies: @Jack D

  21. @Coemgen
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American...
     
    Hm, Ancestry DNA informs me that I'm 1% Basque.

    Should I start checking the Hispanic boxes; change my name to Eugenio; ...?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Telimektar

    The LAPD police chief identifies as Latino due to his Basque ancestry.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    In Canada they call Native Americans “First Nations”. There are/have been First Nations players and coaches and there doesn’t seem to be the obsessive focus on ancestry.

    https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nhl/blog/112113_coaches.jpg

    Craig Berube (Cree) and Ted Nolan (Ojibwe) were both NHL players and coaches (Berube is currently coach of the St. Louis Blues and was head coach for their 2019 Stanley Cup win).

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Steve Sailer

    Funny, seeing as Basque isn't even a Latin language.

    Your police chief hasn't unlocked the true potential of being one of the few groups of whites who are non-aryan and can legitimately claim to have been almost wiped out by the Indo-European invasions.

    , @I, Libertine
    @Steve Sailer

    Are Basques “Hispanic”? They don’t speak Spanish as a native language. Basque has no similarity to Spanish or any other European tongue. The DNA test apparently distinguished Basque from Spanish as ethnicities. Just asking.

  22. @Redneck farmer
    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Replies: @SFG, @Guest007, @slumber_j, @mc23, @Veteran Aryan

    Universities have been trying to use the Middle Eastern/North African category to get Arabs and Egyptians from claiming to be African-American. Of course, these days many just use the vague Person of Color category to hide what they really are.

    • Replies: @Seneca44
    @Guest007

    I know a white South African guy who came here (the US) to play tennis for a low tier Uni in his late teens. He married an American girl and obtained US citizenship. It took him about five minutes to figure out that he should check the African American box on every form and application he has since encountered.

  23. @Almost Missouri

    They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.
     
    I don't know where these activists get their census numbers, but it's apparently not from the US Census Bureau. The Census Bureau’s quickfacts page gives the 2021 American Indian (including Alaskan) portion of the population as 1.3%, which works out to 4.3 million people. If you toss in Native Hawaiian (whom I don’t think "they" would—usually this category is rolled into Asian and Pacific Islander) you can get it up to about 5 million, which is still a far cry from "well over nine million".

    The activist does have a kinda sorta point though that the "Native American" population did grow suspiciously quickly lately, even if not by the enormous "85%" claim. There are several possible explanations for this, not mutually exclusive.

    “That’s not population growth,” they said.
     
    The activist is probably correct that a portion of the growth is transracialism, or "flight from white" in Steve's characteristically memorable coinage.

    “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.
     
    Indians are unique in the US in that they keep their own counts of their numbers, which so far as I know have never been compared to the Census Bureau number. It would be interesting to see a comparison.

    I've never heard if the Tribes have totaled up their various Tribal Rolls into a grand national number. Maybe so, and that's where the "well over nine million" figure comes from? If so, that would be funny/strange if the Tribes think there are more than twice as many Indians as the Feds think, since that would mean Americans are Federally underclaiming Indianhood rather than overclaiming it.



    Photos from the article of women whom the article says are actual enrolled Tribal members:

    https://madison365.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/KristieGoforth-horiz.jpg

    https://madison365.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ArvinaMartin.jpg

    Arvina Martin looks unsettlingly like Kamala "dot Indian" Harris.

    Replies: @Guest007, @Travis

    One would think that the Bureau of Indian Affairs could total up the number of recognized tribal members in less than a day.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Guest007

    One would think.

    Too busy with the Tribal Climate Resilience Program, I guess.

    , @Charlotte
    @Guest007

    Everything to do with tribes is sensitive, it seems. Tribal enrollment is handled by each tribe-not BIA, and some tribes object to sharing that data with the feds, in part because it would be subject to FOIA.

  24. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: ““We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?”

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Shamu

    "British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture."

    Ireland is a wonderful place to visit, or at least it was in 1987-1994, because it was so culturally distinctive from England: e.g., the folk music.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @AndrewR
    @Shamu

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    As for this article, it's illuminating in many ways. First of all is how the author clearly accepts the concept of transgenderism (or at least gender as non-binary) while rejecting the idea of transracialism. If this girl has the right to be accepted as a "they/them" then why can't she be "Anishinaabe"? Amusingly, the author unquestionably accepts the ethnic identity claim of the pseudonymous internet person without any evidence ("AdvancedSmite, who is also of Indigenous heritage").

    The line about the importance of "band names" is also amusing because it goes against the whole "native solidarity" thing and emphasizes that, while having some commonalities involving their relationships with the Anglos, the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups, in contrast to the homogenizing and patronizing way they're talked about in this country.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Verymuchalive, @John Pepple

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Shamu

    I agree with some points here, but have a slightly different take. In Japan, there is a man named Alex Kerr who is an american famous for trying to preserve Japanese heritage, especially architecture. He is well-known for having written several books. However, living in Japan, there are a pretty substantial number of foreigners who are working to preserve Japanese heritage or are studying traditional Japanese arts. They are almost all white. Although I have met quite a few blacks in Japan, I can't think of one who is pursuing work or hobby related to traditional culture.

    I do think whites crave culture, not only "culture" in the modern sense of "minority culture" but also culture more generally. That is why white high culture such as opera used to be popular, and its decline has left a vacuum that "minority cultures" have rushed in to fill.

    I don't really have a good theory about this except that white cultures all share a religion that is based on foreign cultures. It's hard to know if something like the Renaissance is cause or effect. I suspect there is a genetic component, too, but have never looked into possible connections like racial correlations with Big 5 personality traits or something.

    , @Graham
    @Shamu

    “Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture”

    Evidence? Examples? In my limited reading it seems that the British thinkers and chatterers were rather keen on Irish culture even before independence. Joyce satirises one such English hibernophile in the character of Haynes in the first chapter of Ulysses.

    It’s well known that the English loved Shaw, Wilde and Yeats, and still do.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  25. @Anonymous
    'We're craving culture here'.

    Reminds me of an occasion a few years ago in which a very senior Swedish left wing politician, who happened to be witnessing a folk dance being performed by Kurdish immigrants resident in Sweden, publicly gushed about how wonderful Kurdish immigration was, and in particular how it brought 'culture' to a land with no culture (!!!!).

    Seriously, a man who thinks and talks like that is not only a damned fool, but can never, ever be trusted - anyone who shits on their own kind to aggrandize themselves either to foreigners, or other leftists, absolutely simply cannot be trusted with any responsibility.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    ‘We’re craving culture here’.

    To be fair, in the article that quote was from Chippewa Kristie Goforth, so it could be read as “we [Indians] are craving [Indian] culture here.”

    Still, as your Swedish example demonstrates, there is plenty of self-negation among whites. Back at the dawn of SJWism I had a conversation with a Canadian actress who offhandedly remarked that “Canada has no culture” to explain why Canada needs all that foreign immigration.

    Actually, I sort of agree that Canadian culture isn’t all that, but Canada does have plenty of culture brought from Europe. For example, that Canadian actress was performing in a stageplay about (European) opera at that time, which is archetypically high culture, even if not specifically Canadian high culture. But then the non-Euro immigrants are just bringing different cultural imports rather than creating authentically Canadian culture, so really all that her immigration enthusiasm is doing is replacing Opera with Bollywood, which doesn’t seem like trading up, and in any case is still not Canadian.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri

    "Chippewa" Kristie Goforth. Like Fauxcahontas Warren, the blue-eyed Indian!

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/6DT8f2q6QouCjwIe2Elp4K-QFJPfFAhkzWDPzieGS3M/rs:fit:1059:688:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tYWRp/c29uMzY1LmNvbS93/cC1jb250ZW50L3Vw/bG9hZHMvMjAyMS8w/My9LcmlzdGllR29m/b3J0aC1IaWxsYXJ5/U2NoYXZlLWNyb3Ay/LmpwZw

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    Culture is what foreigners have. Your own culture isn't 'culture'. It's just mundane daily normality. It's like a fish's attitude to water: you don't notice it until it's gone.

  26. “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture? Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture. But I don’t hear that much anymore.

    I’m still on my “ancient history of England” kick, so I immediately saw this quote and thought about Anglo-Saxon culture. Or Celtic. Don’t like Britain? There are also the Franks and the Norse who had their own distinct cultures. Or we could move further to the south and east and find some other culture they like. Why not emulate some of that?

    The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy should tell you something about Europe compared to those other places that are still stuck beating drums and making wicker baskets, but that’s noticing.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @JR Ewing

    Always liked the way Blackadder showed the progression of British culture.





    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv6cbl

  27. @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack


    Calling people “they” just encourages them.
     
    It's truly confusing as all hell. For example, I first thought that it was the re-selling (by "friends") of those baskets with scratched out "Made in China by crafter Wei Bo" tags that is illegal. Now, I think he is referring to Miss LeClair and her 2 breasts selling them rather than gifting them.

    I need to know, because I sure don't want to get busted re-selling cheap China-made knock-off Indian baskets, across State lines.

    It was bad enough that, for 50 years, the feminists have pushed the use of "they" for 3rd-person pronoun for people of unknown sex, and then even for people with known sex.. ("During their last period, after imbibing 5 wine coolers, they went on a rampage in their Winnebago RV parked outside the Winnebago.) Now, when it's used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    Totally agree.

    100% of the population speaks the language and 99.999999% of the population agrees on the meaning of the word “they”. It’s around the 25th most common word in the English language and yet this narcissistic bitch wants everyone else to change their understanding of the word when she’s involved, even when’s she’s not there.

    But really it’s not her fault, it’s the fault of the news organizations and reporters who play along and don’t think they are obligated to communicate cogently and clearly anymore.

    These weirdos are 100% free to call themselves whatever they want, but when they aren’t actually a member of the conversation, the people whose job it is to record and report the actual facts should use the words we all know with the meanings we all know.

    Only when you are actually talking to these crazy people should the weird words and weird meanings be used, and then only by the crazy person. That way we all know we are dealing with a crazy person and the exposure is confined to the one crazy person and only when the crazy person is present.

    The rest of us, including reporters, should still speak proper English at all times, even when referring to the crazy person. As you point out, “they” would only be proper English if there were more than one crazy person being discussed.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  28. The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy

    Heh! You overshot just a tad there, J.R. Arguably, the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Achmed E. Newman

    LOL - point taken.

    I guess I should have said, "Wearing track suits all the time and loose monetary policy" and that would be more indicative of modern European culture.

    , @SFG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Barzun claimed it ended with WW1. The apex of US power was probably before 9/11. Relative power, the 1950s. European power, before WW2. Take your pick, ultimately historians, will decide long after we are gone. Or they’ll fight over it, maybe even throwing their chopsticks at each other.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Bill Jones
    @Achmed E. Newman


    the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.
     
    A Victorian Gentleman's Drawing Room around 1880.
  29. @Shamu
    @Anon

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: "“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?"

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Chrisnonymous, @Graham

    “British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture.”

    Ireland is a wonderful place to visit, or at least it was in 1987-1994, because it was so culturally distinctive from England: e.g., the folk music.

    • Agree: Not Raul, Mark G.
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Steve Sailer

    I first visited the South around 1986 and the old culture, for good or ill, was still very much alive, although the writing was on the wall -we first saw Life Of Brian in Cork, which had just been certified after an 8 year ban.

    Our hosts in our West Cork B&B were strong Republicans, indeed the daughter of the house would hardly speak to us - the local church had a memorial to the fallen "1916-19-", the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable - crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home.

    And we saw this chap close up, an amazing sight, he would come up to swimmers to say hello. He only vanished in 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungie

    Fungie was known to interact playfully with swimmers, surfers, kayakers and divers in the water. There have not been any recorded cases of Fungie being aggressive towards humans. Although it is normal for social animals like dolphins to live in close contact with each other, it is still a rare occurrence for them to seek out human contact, and Fungie is the first recorded occurrence of a dolphin interacting positively with humans in the wild in Ireland.

    Everybody there called him "Funghi", because "he's a fun guy". There was a wonderful picture in the pub of the local priest being towed along in a rubber ring while Funghi leapt over him.

    We've gone back a fair few times and it's a lot more like the UK now (including better beer, Ireland was a real ale desert). The North, frozen for 40 years by "the Troubles", is probably a better place to find Old Ireland now.

    Replies: @Lurker

  30. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:

    “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?

    She has a point here. White ethnics throughout most of the country have spent a century abandoning the traditional music, dance, and dress of their ancestors and let mass media take over with all of cosmopolitan values that come with it.

    Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture.

    The donor class idea of culture. The same people are just as comfortable shilling for Basquiat as Vermeer.

    • Replies: @Shamu
    @Anonymous

    Whites who are not WASP did not abandon; they were forced to assimilate to what the Elites demanded, which was a lower order form of WASP culture. Then they would easily serve the interests and demands of Harvard and Yale grads, as well as Wall Street and Hollywood.

    Everything that emanated from Middle America eventually got destroyed or bought out and reconfigured. Middle America, and northeastern Catholic/Orthodox, whites, did not abandon anything, except for some individuals who whored f0r WASP, and/or Jewish, money. But the Federal government and the many huge corporations, and the educational institutions, all ended any form of cultural expressionn that did not jibe with what the elites wanted.


    We have been homogenized into nothing but white servants of Anglo-Zionist Empire and consumers of products made to keep us even more soul-dead than brain-dead.

    Replies: @Muggles

  31. Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go. I attended a public meeting there some years ago that was hijacked by climate activists (the subject of the meeting had nothing to do with this) and several of them struggled to keep from crying as they spoke. My colleague that attended with me is a Democrat but was left half bewildered and half in stitches by this performance – I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Arclight

    Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go.

    Isn't this self contradictory? Is it the architecture that is nice?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Barnard
    @Arclight


    I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.
     
    How would it be possible to not understand this? Also, that these people have far more power and influence in the coalition than he does and if they knew he was mocking them they could destroy his career.

    Replies: @Arclight

  32. @Achmed E. Newman

    The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy ...
     
    Heh! You overshot just a tad there, J.R. Arguably, the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @SFG, @Bill Jones

    LOL – point taken.

    I guess I should have said, “Wearing track suits all the time and loose monetary policy” and that would be more indicative of modern European culture.

  33. @Achmed E. Newman

    The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy ...
     
    Heh! You overshot just a tad there, J.R. Arguably, the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @SFG, @Bill Jones

    Barzun claimed it ended with WW1. The apex of US power was probably before 9/11. Relative power, the 1950s. European power, before WW2. Take your pick, ultimately historians, will decide long after we are gone. Or they’ll fight over it, maybe even throwing their chopsticks at each other.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @SFG

    Agreed and LOL at the chopstick throwing, SFG. They will be chopsticks made of old growth Douglas Fir from the former Olympic National Park. There's a lot of ruin in a nation - Will America be looted by China?: - Part 5: The Wilderness.

  34. @AKAHorace

    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up,
     
    This is a bit of a biased sampling, like sampling aircraft that get shot down rather than those that return to base. As "AdvancedSmite" says

    the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.


    Most race hoaxers probably just a tick a box on a form, keep their mouth shut and never exposed as no one has the time or inclination to look up their background.

    I know several men who claim negligible indigenous background making them officially Metis.

    Replies: @Batman, @Kim, @Chrisnonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    Right. Your average race hoaxer in America is a black who can trace his lineage back to Nubian kings, the Twenty-Third Egyptian Dynasty, and Mansa Musa despite not knowing who his father is.

    • LOL: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Batman

    Black Americans also love to claim Indian (feather) ancestry too.

    In truth, some slaves *did* run away and disappeared into Indian tribes, but not *that* many. And of course those who disappeared, well, disappeared. They didn't move to urban areas decades later and become black again.

    (Pre-Jackie Robinson, Major League Baseball teams would sometimes smuggle blacks onto their rosters as "Cubans" or "Indians," but that's another story. A bunch of Negro League teams even had "Cubans" in their names, maybe partially as a reference to this trick.)

  35. @R.G. Camara
    This trend very much concerns me because it shows that the demoralization of European-Americans in their ethnic past has gone to another level, as white women are now actively deluding themselves and others and pretending they are other races.

    Especially given the tranny nonsense and "born this way" homosexual movement and all related wokism ---- all created and sustained by propaganda and a fake psychological system weaponized by Marxists--, this trend will likely continue.

    We live in dark times.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous

    Whites are so privileged we’re running away from being labeled white.

  36. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous


    ‘We’re craving culture here’.
     
    To be fair, in the article that quote was from Chippewa Kristie Goforth, so it could be read as "we [Indians] are craving [Indian] culture here."

    Still, as your Swedish example demonstrates, there is plenty of self-negation among whites. Back at the dawn of SJWism I had a conversation with a Canadian actress who offhandedly remarked that "Canada has no culture" to explain why Canada needs all that foreign immigration.

    Actually, I sort of agree that Canadian culture isn't all that, but Canada does have plenty of culture brought from Europe. For example, that Canadian actress was performing in a stageplay about (European) opera at that time, which is archetypically high culture, even if not specifically Canadian high culture. But then the non-Euro immigrants are just bringing different cultural imports rather than creating authentically Canadian culture, so really all that her immigration enthusiasm is doing is replacing Opera with Bollywood, which doesn't seem like trading up, and in any case is still not Canadian.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Brutusale

    Yeah, that's why I included Kristie's photo under the MORE tag of the previous comment.

    I'd be willing to concede green rather than blue for the eyes.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  37. @Shamu
    @Anon

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: "“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?"

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Chrisnonymous, @Graham

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    As for this article, it’s illuminating in many ways. First of all is how the author clearly accepts the concept of transgenderism (or at least gender as non-binary) while rejecting the idea of transracialism. If this girl has the right to be accepted as a “they/them” then why can’t she be “Anishinaabe”? Amusingly, the author unquestionably accepts the ethnic identity claim of the pseudonymous internet person without any evidence (“AdvancedSmite, who is also of Indigenous heritage”).

    The line about the importance of “band names” is also amusing because it goes against the whole “native solidarity” thing and emphasizes that, while having some commonalities involving their relationships with the Anglos, the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups, in contrast to the homogenizing and patronizing way they’re talked about in this country.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AndrewR


    the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups,
     
    Not just separate groups but separate groups that had spent the last several thousand years fighting with each other. The Indians didn't wait until the white people showed up to become fearsome warriors - they had had plenty of practice beforehand. Nor did they necessarily all unite to fight white people once the white people showed up. Usually they were eager to ally with white people in order to fight their traditional enemies, the tribe next door.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    , @Verymuchalive
    @AndrewR


    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.
     
    You're not normally this perceptive, Mr R, so double bonus points are in order.
    For further reading, I recommend Pier Shepherd's review of The Rise and Fall of Christian Ireland by Crawford Gribben. Food for thought.
    https://chroniclesmagazine.org/recent-features/irelands-arc-to-a-post-christian-nation/
    , @John Pepple
    @AndrewR


    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.
     
    Globohomo isn't going to last because of all the immigrants they are letting in. Soon enough, those immigrants will take over, just as they will in the rest of the Western world, and then Ireland will be a Muslim theocracy for the next 30,000 years.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @AndrewR

  38. Madison WI… Again. She sold a lot of hot air and clothing to white lesbians. They want to believe.

  39. @Coemgen
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American...
     
    Hm, Ancestry DNA informs me that I'm 1% Basque.

    Should I start checking the Hispanic boxes; change my name to Eugenio; ...?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Telimektar

    Go to Basque country and call the natives “Hispanic” and see how that works out for you.

    • LOL: Coemgen
  40. My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    • LOL: duncsbaby
    • Replies: @Shamu
    @Twinkie

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @megabar, @Twinkie, @Hibernian

    , @Known Fact
    @Twinkie

    "... Falsely claiming she was part-native american for film role ..."

    Well what is acting except lying, right? She seems well qualified, on various counts

    , @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous. East Asian nationalities are regularly interchangeable in the movies already, with the Chinese playing Koreans and vice versa etc etc.

    In my mind, it's akin to a Ukrainian (Scythian) or a light skinned and fair featured Dot Indian claiming to be French: yes, it might not match the modern borders on the map, but the DNA is mostly the same and came from the same place.

    Most racialists wouldn't think twice about such a situation because in their mind "white is white, the end". The only reason anyone cares about the Yellowstone actress is that American Indians are currently a faddish "oppressed minority" so people pay attention to it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @SFG

    , @Director95
    @Twinkie

    She's a real cupcake no matter what tribe she claims.
    I can never post jpegs here. How do you do it?
    I have a great photo of Warren in her Pocahontas garb.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Twinkie


    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner.
     
    That's cool. Do you guys get together at his place or does he come over to yours?

    identifies as [American Indian]. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.
     
    What kind of Indian name is Kelsey Asbille? Whatever happened to great Indian names like Red Cloud, Tall chief, Crazy Horse, or Sitting Bull? In her case, she could have called herself Pokingnips--Kelsey Pokingnips. Seriously, that's the most NSFW photo I've seen on iSteve!
    , @Mike Tre
    @Twinkie

    there is a slight resemblance to val kilmer, who also claims to have amerindian ancestry.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @duncsbaby
    @Twinkie

    Can I do two LOLs in the same comment section?

    Damn the torpedoes, I'm livin' like a refugee (in my own country.)

    , @mc23
    @Twinkie

    Close enough for the casting couch.
    In the movie Black Rob, involving Jesuit missonaries to the Hurons, they cast a Canadian half Chinese/ half French actress as the love interest. Beautiful woman. They tried to cast Indians in the film roles as much as possible but it's not a deep bench.

    http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/349059/349059_full.jpg

  41. @Anonymous

    “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?
     
    She has a point here. White ethnics throughout most of the country have spent a century abandoning the traditional music, dance, and dress of their ancestors and let mass media take over with all of cosmopolitan values that come with it.

    Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture.
     
    The donor class idea of culture. The same people are just as comfortable shilling for Basquiat as Vermeer.

    Replies: @Shamu

    Whites who are not WASP did not abandon; they were forced to assimilate to what the Elites demanded, which was a lower order form of WASP culture. Then they would easily serve the interests and demands of Harvard and Yale grads, as well as Wall Street and Hollywood.

    Everything that emanated from Middle America eventually got destroyed or bought out and reconfigured. Middle America, and northeastern Catholic/Orthodox, whites, did not abandon anything, except for some individuals who whored f0r WASP, and/or Jewish, money. But the Federal government and the many huge corporations, and the educational institutions, all ended any form of cultural expressionn that did not jibe with what the elites wanted.

    We have been homogenized into nothing but white servants of Anglo-Zionist Empire and consumers of products made to keep us even more soul-dead than brain-dead.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Shamu


    We have been homogenized into nothing but white servants of Anglo-Zionist Empire and consumers of products made to keep us even more soul-dead than brain-dead.
     
    Gee, you must be a lot of fun at parties.

    Do they ever let you out?
  42. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack


    Calling people “they” just encourages them.
     
    It's truly confusing as all hell. For example, I first thought that it was the re-selling (by "friends") of those baskets with scratched out "Made in China by crafter Wei Bo" tags that is illegal. Now, I think he is referring to Miss LeClair and her 2 breasts selling them rather than gifting them.

    I need to know, because I sure don't want to get busted re-selling cheap China-made knock-off Indian baskets, across State lines.

    It was bad enough that, for 50 years, the feminists have pushed the use of "they" for 3rd-person pronoun for people of unknown sex, and then even for people with known sex.. ("During their last period, after imbibing 5 wine coolers, they went on a rampage in their Winnebago RV parked outside the Winnebago.) Now, when it's used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Anonymous

    Now, when it’s used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.

    Singular is not case, it’s number.

    A poster on New Age Frauds named E.P. Grondine claims Indian ancestry, Shawnee I think, and sells “hand-crafted leather Bic lighter sheaths” at “pow-wows” which term I find offensive.

    I’m waiting for someone to come out with a hand-crafted leather toilet paper coozy.

    He also says that it’s very common for American Indians to be over seven feet tall and blames his poor typing skills on diabetes.

    Sadly it appears there are no nudes, either of Mister Grondine or Miss LeClaire. This reader finds the white version hotter, but to each his own.

    It’s always been my understanding that Basques are not Spanish, therefore not Hispanic. What about the Basques living in France? Biarritz is famously Basque country.

    • Replies: @Iberian
    @Anonymous

    No.
    Basques are Hispanicus;
    In fact, the original Hispanicus;
    The ones that don’t became Latins/Romans during the Roman rule.

    Replies: @Nachum

  43. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Shamu


    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    I thought the first season was pretty good, but it devolved rapidly during the second season and by now it reminds me a lot of Justified, with all of the extrajudicial killings and explosions and outlandish plot holes that just get forgotten and swept under the rug after every episode. Still entertaining, but mostly a farce by this point.

    Interestingly, Neil McDonough's creepy appearance was the beginning of the end for each show.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @megabar
    @Shamu

    > [Yellowstone is] Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Twinkie

    , @Twinkie
    @Shamu


    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    As I mentioned elsewhere on the blog, my wife and I own farms in Appalachia and the Midwest. And she has kin who ranch.

    Real farming/ranching is mostly grinding routine and a lot of praying for favorable weather (and high prices and low input costs). There isn't much drama to put on TV.

    Yellowstone is a "guilty pleasure" for my wife and me. Sure, it's a Hollywood product, but it sure beats gazillion cop, lawyer, medical dramas that valorize city life and urban values.

    The last recent movie I enjoyed was Taylor Sheridan-written Hell or High Water.

    https://youtu.be/JQoqsKoJVDw

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Hibernian
    @Shamu


    I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    The speechifying and psychologizing by characters in old Westerns, including by characters played by Jimmy Stewart and Audie Murphy, can be amazing.
  44. @SFG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Barzun claimed it ended with WW1. The apex of US power was probably before 9/11. Relative power, the 1950s. European power, before WW2. Take your pick, ultimately historians, will decide long after we are gone. Or they’ll fight over it, maybe even throwing their chopsticks at each other.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Agreed and LOL at the chopstick throwing, SFG. They will be chopsticks made of old growth Douglas Fir from the former Olympic National Park. There’s a lot of ruin in a nation – Will America be looted by China?: – Part 5: The Wilderness.

  45. @Redneck farmer
    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Replies: @SFG, @Guest007, @slumber_j, @mc23, @Veteran Aryan

    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Well, sometimes it’s just for money. In his “Niagara,” Mark Twain has a bunch of Irish hucksters at the Falls counterfeiting Indian artifacts–with the big difference that they vehemently deny being Indians when confronted:

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/niagara.html

    The noble Red Man has always been a friend and darling of mine. I love to read about him in tales and legends and romances. I love to read of his inspired sagacity, and his love of the wild free life of mountain and forest, and his general nobility of character, and his stately metaphorical manner of speech, and his chivalrous love for the dusky maiden, and the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. Especially the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. When I found the shops at Niagara Falls full of dainty Indian bead- work, and stunning moccasins, and equally stunning toy figures representing human beings who carried their weapons in holes bored through their arms and bodies, and had feet shaped like a pie, I was filled with emotion. I knew that now, at last, I was going to come face to face with the noble Red Man.

    A lady clerk in a shop told me, indeed, that all her grand array of curiosities were made by the Indians, and that they were plenty about the Falls, and that they were friendly, and it would not be dangerous to speak to them. And sure enough, as I approached the bridge leading over to Luna Island, I came upon a noble Son of the Forest sitting under a tree, diligently at work on a bead reticule. He wore a slouch hat and brogans, and had a short black pipe in his mouth. Thus does the baneful contact with our effeminate civilization dilute the picturesque pomp which is so natural to the Indian when far removed from us in his native haunts. I addressed the relic as follows:

    [MORE]

    “Is the Wawhoo-Wang-Wang of the Whack-a- Whack happy? Does the great Speckled Thunder sigh for the warpath, or is his heart contented with dreaming of the dusky maiden, the Pride of the Forest? Does the mighty Sachem yearn to drink the blood of his enemies, or is he satisfied to make bead reticules for the pappooses of the paleface? Speak, sublime relic of bygone grandeur–venerable ruin, speak!’

    The relic said:

    An’ is it mesilf, Dennis Hooligan, that ye’d be takin’ for a dirty Injin, ye drawlin’, lanternjawed, spider-legged divil! By the piper that played be- fore Moses, I’ll ate ye!

    I went away from there.

    By and by, in the neighborhood of the Terrapin Tower, I came upon a gentle daughter of the aborigines in fringed and beaded buckskin moccasins and leggins, seated on a bench with her pretty wares about her. She had just carved out a wooden chief that had a strong family resemblance to a clothes- pin, and was now boring a hole through his abdomen to put his bow through. I hesitated a moment, and then addressed her:

    Is the heart of the forest maiden heavy? Is the Laughing Tadpole lonely? Does she mourn over the extinguished council-fires of her race, and the vanished glory of her ancestors? Or does her sad spirit wander afar toward the hunting-grounds whither her brave Gobbler-of-the-Lightnings is gone? Why is my daughter silent? Has she aught against the paleface stranger?

    The maiden said:

    Faix, an’ is it Biddy Malone ye dare to be callin’ names? Lave this, or I’ll shy your lean carcass over the cataract, ye sniveling blaggard!

    I adjourned from there also.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Pierre de Craon
    @slumber_j

    Providing a link is a generous touch, since the essay as a whole is a comic masterpiece. Thank you.

    , @duncsbaby
    @slumber_j

    Shit goddamn, I already used my two LOLs for this thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um2XJBPzSeQ

  46. She should get a 7-11 franchise–she cold be a dot Indian too!

  47. This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer. There’s also CT US Sen. Richard “Stolen Valor” Blumenthal, whose lies seem even more scurrilous than claimimg you’re indigenous. Ooops, I mean Indigenous

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Known Fact

    That Dick Blumenthal and Elizabeth Warren and JOE FREAKING BIDEN have told similar biographical fibs that have been waived away by the press as not worth any attention, makes it very difficult for me to get worked up about this Santos guy. Giving in to it just justifies the double standard, so I hope he doesn't and just pretends like nothing happened.

    The only problem for him is that he is a republican in a blue state and the local pols will eventually make up special rules to come after him and flex their muscles.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Known Fact

    This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer.

    Eh, in all likelihood he is lying about being non-Lefty too.

    Replies: @Known Fact

  48. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    “… Falsely claiming she was part-native american for film role …”

    Well what is acting except lying, right? She seems well qualified, on various counts

  49. @SFG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Seems rational, if dishonest. You’re into arts and crafts, get the Indian label and your stuff’s worth a lot more. You ride both the diversity train and the ‘braids, buckskins, and beads’ fascination people have had for a while with the defeated indigenous culture of North America. Not just on the left, either. At least one sculpture producer (what do they call these mass produced sculpture things?) that produced a right eagle wing (but no left) sold lots of Indians to go with the cowboys. My guess is they’re archaic, rural, and have a martial history, all of interest to conservatives.

    So it’s sometimes just another scam.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    30-odd years ago when I was young and lusty, all sorts of girls from hippie to biker-chick had a Native American fetish – I think those “dream-catchers” are a thing to this day.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @YetAnotherAnon

    That dream catcher calls for a dream weaver:
    https://youtu.be/McZYYe0kAtg

  50. @Known Fact
    This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer. There's also CT US Sen. Richard "Stolen Valor" Blumenthal, whose lies seem even more scurrilous than claimimg you're indigenous. Ooops, I mean Indigenous

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @kaganovitch

    That Dick Blumenthal and Elizabeth Warren and JOE FREAKING BIDEN have told similar biographical fibs that have been waived away by the press as not worth any attention, makes it very difficult for me to get worked up about this Santos guy. Giving in to it just justifies the double standard, so I hope he doesn’t and just pretends like nothing happened.

    The only problem for him is that he is a republican in a blue state and the local pols will eventually make up special rules to come after him and flex their muscles.

  51. @JR Ewing

    “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture? Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture. But I don’t hear that much anymore.
     
    I'm still on my "ancient history of England" kick, so I immediately saw this quote and thought about Anglo-Saxon culture. Or Celtic. Don't like Britain? There are also the Franks and the Norse who had their own distinct cultures. Or we could move further to the south and east and find some other culture they like. Why not emulate some of that?

    The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy should tell you something about Europe compared to those other places that are still stuck beating drums and making wicker baskets, but that's noticing.

    Replies: @Curle

    Always liked the way Blackadder showed the progression of British culture.

  52. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    I agree.

    The speed with which the Swiss have fucked themselves up in the 60 some years since “female emancipation” is quite something.

  53. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Right, institutional power should be reserved for the likes of Lori Lightfoot and Catherine Elizabeth Pugh.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @kaganovitch

    Would a creature like Lori Lightfoot be celebrated if White ladies weren't setting the tone? "The personal is political" isn't just a slogan for them; it's an explanation for why they've been kept out of politics for nearly all of recorded history.

    A homely little Black lesbian only becomes a rare gem in a political culture that's given up on public affairs (ie politics) and is instead obsessed with promoting people with the most loser points.

    Women like to have one handsome leader who emotes and scolds on their behalf (eg Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron) and then the rest of the positions can be filled with special needs types, as an act of charity and a way to "smash the White patriarchy" that they both love and hate passionately.

    Replies: @Lurker, @HammerJack, @Hibernian

  54. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous. East Asian nationalities are regularly interchangeable in the movies already, with the Chinese playing Koreans and vice versa etc etc.

    In my mind, it’s akin to a Ukrainian (Scythian) or a light skinned and fair featured Dot Indian claiming to be French: yes, it might not match the modern borders on the map, but the DNA is mostly the same and came from the same place.

    Most racialists wouldn’t think twice about such a situation because in their mind “white is white, the end”. The only reason anyone cares about the Yellowstone actress is that American Indians are currently a faddish “oppressed minority” so people pay attention to it.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @JR Ewing


    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous
     
    Recent DNA testing/analysis reveals that this is largely incorrect.

    Western Hemisphere migrants have DNA roughly one half Turkic/Mongol and one half Eastern European. They came over a land bridge to Alaska circa 25,000 BC, though estimates vary on timelines.

    According to the definitive book on the subject, "American Indians" are more closely related to Europeans than they are to any "Asian" peoples.

    They came from Siberia and are not like more southern Asians other than the south/central Asians Turkic or Mongols.

    Genetically they are not "Asians" though originally came from the very far north of Asia.
    , @SFG
    @JR Ewing

    We can’t tell the Asians apart…but they sure can. I remember the brouhaha a while back when they cast a Chinese actress in the geisha movie, annoying the Chinese (why is our actress cast as a Japanese prostitute?) and Japanese (why did they put a Chinese actress in something about our culture?) simultaneously.

    China and Japan have very low opinions of each other these days from what I understand. Everyone hates the neighbors.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nachum

  55. @Shamu
    @Twinkie

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @megabar, @Twinkie, @Hibernian

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    I thought the first season was pretty good, but it devolved rapidly during the second season and by now it reminds me a lot of Justified, with all of the extrajudicial killings and explosions and outlandish plot holes that just get forgotten and swept under the rug after every episode. Still entertaining, but mostly a farce by this point.

    Interestingly, Neil McDonough’s creepy appearance was the beginning of the end for each show.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @JR Ewing


    I thought the first season was pretty good, but it devolved rapidly during the second season and by now it reminds me a lot of Justified,..........
     
    I saw parts of one or two episodes of Justified. It struck me as being the same old liberal Hollywood bulls**t wrapped up in a fake-based rural disguise.

    And the G-man is of course the good guy. F*%k that!. The G-men are never the good guys.

  56. @Achmed E. Newman

    The fact that all of the ancient European cultures have evolved from drums and handcrafts to Opera and loose monetary policy ...
     
    Heh! You overshot just a tad there, J.R. Arguably, the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @SFG, @Bill Jones

    the peak of Western culture was 50 years ago. I might say 30 or 40.

    A Victorian Gentleman’s Drawing Room around 1880.

  57. @AndrewR
    @Shamu

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    As for this article, it's illuminating in many ways. First of all is how the author clearly accepts the concept of transgenderism (or at least gender as non-binary) while rejecting the idea of transracialism. If this girl has the right to be accepted as a "they/them" then why can't she be "Anishinaabe"? Amusingly, the author unquestionably accepts the ethnic identity claim of the pseudonymous internet person without any evidence ("AdvancedSmite, who is also of Indigenous heritage").

    The line about the importance of "band names" is also amusing because it goes against the whole "native solidarity" thing and emphasizes that, while having some commonalities involving their relationships with the Anglos, the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups, in contrast to the homogenizing and patronizing way they're talked about in this country.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Verymuchalive, @John Pepple

    the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups,

    Not just separate groups but separate groups that had spent the last several thousand years fighting with each other. The Indians didn’t wait until the white people showed up to become fearsome warriors – they had had plenty of practice beforehand. Nor did they necessarily all unite to fight white people once the white people showed up. Usually they were eager to ally with white people in order to fight their traditional enemies, the tribe next door.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    Nor did they necessarily all unite to fight white people once the white people showed up. Usually they were eager to ally with white people in order to fight their traditional enemies, the tribe next door.
     
    And this was completely understandable. Wasn't wypipo killed their kin for possibly thousands of years. There's a lot of BS about divide and conquer among empire-builders excessively impressed by their own skills at intrigue. In reality, all they were doing was working with traditional and longstanding local animosities that weren't just squabbles, but existential enmities based on the shedding of rivers of blood.

    And, historically-speaking, outsiders often simply did marriage-based alliances with locals. The Jim Crow-style race-based caste system was a fairly unique arrangement that Indians did not fully grasp until they were completely subdued. By then, it was far too late to do anything (i.e. create a grand confederation of Indians in North America*) about their complete defeat and systematic exclusion from many aspects of their conquerors' society.

    * A great undertaking that could succeed only against the odds, given the difficulty of maintaining alliances against the challenges outlined in game theory (e.g. free-riding, and so on), as well as their demographic, cognitive and technological deficits.
  58. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    She’s a real cupcake no matter what tribe she claims.
    I can never post jpegs here. How do you do it?
    I have a great photo of Warren in her Pocahontas garb.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Director95

    "I can never post jpegs here. How do you do it?"

    You post a direct link to wherever it is on the Web. The only exception is if it won't display because some people don't like their servers (with the images on) being used to put images on other people's sites, and some for political reasons don't want their pics to be shown at Unz.

    If you want to show an image that's elsewhere, you go to the relevant page


    right-click on the picture "open image in new tab"

    then copy the address from the address bar
    paste it into your comment

    If it wont display as above, you need to copy it to your hard drive and continue as below

    Now if you have a stunning photo on your hard drive, say

    C:/Users/User/Pictures/goodgrieflookatthat.JPG

    You have to get it onto the Web. I tend to use this free picture host

    https://postimages.org/

    You can select the jpg from your drive. no login or mail required, and it gives you a direct link option, which is the one you paste into your comment. Like this one

    https://i.postimg.cc/9FMgVQsy/whomustgo.jpg

  59. this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?”

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia

    Good point, but I will move the history back even further. Late 60’s, a very “elite” New England university that I somehow got into. I can still remember walking across campus, eyes burning from swim practice, on my way to the library, doing my Traditional White Guy thing, and look, there are two dozen students sitting around on the lawn in some sort of Indian drum circle. Oh well, I think to myself, they’ve got some sort of club going, I guess that’s nice. And then I learned they are doing it for class credit. Maybe I still carry a grudge because they got the hot dates.

  60. @AKAHorace

    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up,
     
    This is a bit of a biased sampling, like sampling aircraft that get shot down rather than those that return to base. As "AdvancedSmite" says

    the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.


    Most race hoaxers probably just a tick a box on a form, keep their mouth shut and never exposed as no one has the time or inclination to look up their background.

    I know several men who claim negligible indigenous background making them officially Metis.

    Replies: @Batman, @Kim, @Chrisnonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    Because of this kind of thing, I am starting to confuse the meanings of indigenous and disingenuous.

  61. @AKAHorace

    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up,
     
    This is a bit of a biased sampling, like sampling aircraft that get shot down rather than those that return to base. As "AdvancedSmite" says

    the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.


    Most race hoaxers probably just a tick a box on a form, keep their mouth shut and never exposed as no one has the time or inclination to look up their background.

    I know several men who claim negligible indigenous background making them officially Metis.

    Replies: @Batman, @Kim, @Chrisnonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women

    This is a bit of a biased sampling,

    Scott Alexander recently noted that when ChatGPT was asked to make 5000 profiles of imaginary liberals, they were almost all white women…

    They asked an AI – with no concept of what is or isn’t an offensive stereotype – to generate 5,000 liberal biographies and 5,000 conservative biographies. The result is a work of art. For example, the liberals are almost all women whose names radiate strong white college girl energy (plus a smattering of Latinas)…
    https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/how-do-ais-political-opinions-change

    • Thanks: Renard
  62. The pronoun thing is the thin end of the wedge, and the first agreement in the brainwashing sequence. How long before we have to mutter ‘peace be upon him’ after naming ‘the Prophet’ Mohammed? I already see ‘The Prophet Mohammed’ in mainstream publications. He’s not my prophet. Nobody refers to The Prophet Joseph Smith, and the gold plates were the same swindle Mohammed was working.

    The argument that it is ‘polite’ to indulge control freaks in their public fetish is disingenuous, too. Like Islam, trans is a religion that has rules for those who don’t believe in it. Maybe trannies could be ‘polite’ and not insist that everyone else change their language to satisfy the transformers’ need to have their delusions confirmed.

  63. @Steve Sailer
    @Shamu

    "British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture."

    Ireland is a wonderful place to visit, or at least it was in 1987-1994, because it was so culturally distinctive from England: e.g., the folk music.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I first visited the South around 1986 and the old culture, for good or ill, was still very much alive, although the writing was on the wall -we first saw Life Of Brian in Cork, which had just been certified after an 8 year ban.

    Our hosts in our West Cork B&B were strong Republicans, indeed the daughter of the house would hardly speak to us – the local church had a memorial to the fallen “1916-19-“, the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable – crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home.

    And we saw this chap close up, an amazing sight, he would come up to swimmers to say hello. He only vanished in 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungie

    Fungie was known to interact playfully with swimmers, surfers, kayakers and divers in the water. There have not been any recorded cases of Fungie being aggressive towards humans. Although it is normal for social animals like dolphins to live in close contact with each other, it is still a rare occurrence for them to seek out human contact, and Fungie is the first recorded occurrence of a dolphin interacting positively with humans in the wild in Ireland.

    Everybody there called him “Funghi”, because “he’s a fun guy”. There was a wonderful picture in the pub of the local priest being towed along in a rubber ring while Funghi leapt over him.

    We’ve gone back a fair few times and it’s a lot more like the UK now (including better beer, Ireland was a real ale desert). The North, frozen for 40 years by “the Troubles”, is probably a better place to find Old Ireland now.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @YetAnotherAnon


    the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable – crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home
     
    Minus the Mass part, most non-city pubs were like that in Britain too, into the 1970s at least.

    Replies: @Jack D

  64. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner.

    That’s cool. Do you guys get together at his place or does he come over to yours?

    identifies as [American Indian]. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    What kind of Indian name is Kelsey Asbille? Whatever happened to great Indian names like Red Cloud, Tall chief, Crazy Horse, or Sitting Bull? In her case, she could have called herself Pokingnips–Kelsey Pokingnips. Seriously, that’s the most NSFW photo I’ve seen on iSteve!

  65. @Guest007
    @Almost Missouri

    One would think that the Bureau of Indian Affairs could total up the number of recognized tribal members in less than a day.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charlotte

    One would think.

    Too busy with the Tribal Climate Resilience Program, I guess.

  66. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Coemgen

    The LAPD police chief identifies as Latino due to his Basque ancestry.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @I, Libertine

    In Canada they call Native Americans “First Nations”. There are/have been First Nations players and coaches and there doesn’t seem to be the obsessive focus on ancestry.

    Craig Berube (Cree) and Ted Nolan (Ojibwe) were both NHL players and coaches (Berube is currently coach of the St. Louis Blues and was head coach for their 2019 Stanley Cup win).

  67. There’s gold in them, there hills. Being a professional Indian is good money. You get to go to pretty places if you like rural or kind of rural. And you have status of a sort.

    There’s downsides, enrolled natives are going to be hunting for folks like you and it’s easy in this day and age to check your Facebook or whatever.

    They know they are not native but they get too deep in. If she had just put her stuff in a native gallery she could probably have skated forever.

  68. @kaganovitch
    @Anon

    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Right, institutional power should be reserved for the likes of Lori Lightfoot and Catherine Elizabeth Pugh.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    Would a creature like Lori Lightfoot be celebrated if White ladies weren’t setting the tone? “The personal is political” isn’t just a slogan for them; it’s an explanation for why they’ve been kept out of politics for nearly all of recorded history.

    A homely little Black lesbian only becomes a rare gem in a political culture that’s given up on public affairs (ie politics) and is instead obsessed with promoting people with the most loser points.

    Women like to have one handsome leader who emotes and scolds on their behalf (eg Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron) and then the rest of the positions can be filled with special needs types, as an act of charity and a way to “smash the White patriarchy” that they both love and hate passionately.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Cagey Beast


    A homely little Black lesbian
     
    Homely?

    Your generosity of spirit does you credit sir!
    , @HammerJack
    @Cagey Beast

    https://i.ibb.co/wMZSPtq/9865fc829a1f0c7887916ef58674971ee9eecb21-14.jpg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

    , @Hibernian
    @Cagey Beast

    Lightfoot emerged from a first round in which she and the other top 2 finisher (I forget which came in first in the first round.) both got in the range of 15% to 18%. This in Boss Daley's Chicago!

    The other finalist was also a Black woman, the incumbent County Board President (really County Executive.)

  69. @TyRade
    America clearly needs a Lady Susan Hussey to ask, when faced with over-wardrobed ethnic hoaxers from central casting: "Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?" Since the great Lady was thrown under a bus for her effrontery, she might be available for trans-Atlantic common sense mercy missions.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    America clearly needs a Lady Susan Hussey to ask, when faced with over-wardrobed ethnic hoaxers from central casting: “Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?”

    Perhaps we can replace the maudlin “Give me your tired, your poor etc.” Lazarus poem with Hussey’s “Where are you from? No, really, where are you from?” As Hussey would be an immigrant, she would have greater moral stature than Lazarus.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  70. @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri

    "Chippewa" Kristie Goforth. Like Fauxcahontas Warren, the blue-eyed Indian!

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/6DT8f2q6QouCjwIe2Elp4K-QFJPfFAhkzWDPzieGS3M/rs:fit:1059:688:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tYWRp/c29uMzY1LmNvbS93/cC1jb250ZW50L3Vw/bG9hZHMvMjAyMS8w/My9LcmlzdGllR29m/b3J0aC1IaWxsYXJ5/U2NoYXZlLWNyb3Ay/LmpwZw

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, that’s why I included Kristie’s photo under the MORE tag of the previous comment.

    I’d be willing to concede green rather than blue for the eyes.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    But she does have tribal membership, unlike LeClaire.

  71. @Almost Missouri
    @Brutusale

    Yeah, that's why I included Kristie's photo under the MORE tag of the previous comment.

    I'd be willing to concede green rather than blue for the eyes.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    But she does have tribal membership, unlike LeClaire.

  72. “collective giige”

    I guess we’re all expected to know what a giige is and how to pronounce this obviously misspelled word. Jokes on them. I don’t know what a giggy (sp?) is and don’t care enough to look it up.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Anon

    To my everlasting shame, I Googled it. It seems to be a made-up word referring only to her thing, whatever that thing is, and she spells it with a lowercase letter because...proper capitalization is a tool of the Man? Don't ask me.

  73. @R.G. Camara
    This trend very much concerns me because it shows that the demoralization of European-Americans in their ethnic past has gone to another level, as white women are now actively deluding themselves and others and pretending they are other races.

    Especially given the tranny nonsense and "born this way" homosexual movement and all related wokism ---- all created and sustained by propaganda and a fake psychological system weaponized by Marxists--, this trend will likely continue.

    We live in dark times.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous

    Meh. You get more of what you pay for.

    Our society rewards people for being nonwhite so of course lots of whites are going to pretend to be something else. Demoralization or opportunism?

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Anonymous


    Demoralization or opportunism?
     
    Rachel Dolezal is still painting herself black and giving herself kinky, frizzy hair -- on an OnlyFans page, no less.

    She's literally taken to whoring herself out in blackface rather than taking a normal job. There's no opportunism there. That's demoralization.
  74. @Thoughts
    But even the indigenous indian hoaxster

    Is part jewish!

    I mentioned in a previous comment that I was at dinner a few months ago and people were crawling across the table with 'I'm 1/4 jewish!' Followed by a lot of 'I'm jewish because I eat this and this bread on Sundays' chatter

    Where are the Aliens and why can they not take me away from all this b.s.?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I mentioned in a previous comment that I was at dinner a few months ago and people were crawling across the table with ‘I’m 1/4 jewish!’ Followed by a lot of ‘I’m jewish because I eat this and this bread on Sundays’ chatter

    It’s your own fault. As the Talmud says (Sanhedrin 23a)
    “כך היו נקיי הדעת שבירושלים עושין …ולא היו נכנסין בסעודה אלא אם כן יודעין מי מיסב עמהן”
    “This was the practice of the pure-minded /scrupulous of Jerusalem …. and they would not join a meal unless they knew who was reclining, (i.e., eating), with them.”

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @kaganovitch

    One suspects that "their" posing as Jew
    Ain't one/ten-twenty-fourth of a true.
    Kosher redskin: heap chance
    To gettem' arts grants
    With a matzo ball stirred in the stew.

  75. @Shamu
    @Anon

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: "“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?"

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Chrisnonymous, @Graham

    I agree with some points here, but have a slightly different take. In Japan, there is a man named Alex Kerr who is an american famous for trying to preserve Japanese heritage, especially architecture. He is well-known for having written several books. However, living in Japan, there are a pretty substantial number of foreigners who are working to preserve Japanese heritage or are studying traditional Japanese arts. They are almost all white. Although I have met quite a few blacks in Japan, I can’t think of one who is pursuing work or hobby related to traditional culture.

    I do think whites crave culture, not only “culture” in the modern sense of “minority culture” but also culture more generally. That is why white high culture such as opera used to be popular, and its decline has left a vacuum that “minority cultures” have rushed in to fill.

    I don’t really have a good theory about this except that white cultures all share a religion that is based on foreign cultures. It’s hard to know if something like the Renaissance is cause or effect. I suspect there is a genetic component, too, but have never looked into possible connections like racial correlations with Big 5 personality traits or something.

  76. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous


    ‘We’re craving culture here’.
     
    To be fair, in the article that quote was from Chippewa Kristie Goforth, so it could be read as "we [Indians] are craving [Indian] culture here."

    Still, as your Swedish example demonstrates, there is plenty of self-negation among whites. Back at the dawn of SJWism I had a conversation with a Canadian actress who offhandedly remarked that "Canada has no culture" to explain why Canada needs all that foreign immigration.

    Actually, I sort of agree that Canadian culture isn't all that, but Canada does have plenty of culture brought from Europe. For example, that Canadian actress was performing in a stageplay about (European) opera at that time, which is archetypically high culture, even if not specifically Canadian high culture. But then the non-Euro immigrants are just bringing different cultural imports rather than creating authentically Canadian culture, so really all that her immigration enthusiasm is doing is replacing Opera with Bollywood, which doesn't seem like trading up, and in any case is still not Canadian.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Anonymous

    Culture is what foreigners have. Your own culture isn’t ‘culture’. It’s just mundane daily normality. It’s like a fish’s attitude to water: you don’t notice it until it’s gone.

  77. @Arclight
    Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go. I attended a public meeting there some years ago that was hijacked by climate activists (the subject of the meeting had nothing to do with this) and several of them struggled to keep from crying as they spoke. My colleague that attended with me is a Democrat but was left half bewildered and half in stitches by this performance - I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Barnard

    Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go.

    Isn’t this self contradictory? Is it the architecture that is nice?

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

  78. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    there is a slight resemblance to val kilmer, who also claims to have amerindian ancestry.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mike Tre


    there is a slight resemblance to val kilmer, who also claims to have amerindian ancestry.
     
    I remember Valk Kilmer in this:

    https://youtu.be/dJp5pxFG6Sg

    Kelsey "Asbille" is just a Hapa (or "Eurasian"). Supposedly she is proud of her Air Force general/doctor dad. Funny way of showing that, erasing his surname from hers.

  79. My history is very similar to Elizabeth Warren’s. My dad’s family came from Ark/Okla and I grew up under the belief that I had some Cherokee in me. My father would make reference to a great grandmother that was supposedly 1/4th Cherokee and we even had a pic of her sporting, wouldn’t ya know, high cheekbones. My dad was quite certain of our native ancestry and proud. I was indifferent. Well, fast forward 35 years and I, no longer indifferent, have found that AncestryDNA Inc. has proved both my sister and I are 100% Northern European (70% England). And that’s ok.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    You lose half of your parents' combined DNA, so it's possible what they pick up as Indian was lost somewhere in the generations. Or do I misunderstand genetics?

  80. From the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine:

    “The More Inclusion We Have in Science, the Better Outcomes We’ll Get.”

    Interview With Eddie Bernice Johnson
    https://issues.org/eddie-bernice-johnson-house-science-interview/

    BY EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, MOLLY GALVIN

    “It’s hard to name a single person who has had a greater impact on US science legislation in the twenty-first century than US Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson, who recently retired after more than 50 years in public service. A Democrat who represented Texas’s 30th congressional district for 15 terms, Johnson is the outgoing chair of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology.”

  81. @Known Fact
    This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer. There's also CT US Sen. Richard "Stolen Valor" Blumenthal, whose lies seem even more scurrilous than claimimg you're indigenous. Ooops, I mean Indigenous

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @kaganovitch

    This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer.

    Eh, in all likelihood he is lying about being non-Lefty too.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @kaganovitch

    That's right, who knows with this guy? Gay or not, "Jew-ish" or not, he does seem without doubt to be a male of some sort, so -- as the saying actually goes -- Santos might be the exception that tests Steve's rule

  82. Will not read garbage calling a singular person “they”. “They” is plural.

    Wisconsin has culture – cheese, beer, bratwurst, Packers. It’s something!

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Jack P


    Will not read garbage calling a singular person “they”. “They” is plural...
     
    ... and "you" as the singular second person is another abomination.

    Thou and thee are perfectly fine words.

    They are specific and they do not have the overly polite affectation of "you" singular and, usage of thou and thee give one the chance to display one's superior grammatical skills.
  83. @kaganovitch
    @Arclight

    Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go.

    Isn't this self contradictory? Is it the architecture that is nice?

    Replies: @Jack D

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It’s not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits’s teenage keeds (she doesn’t have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Jack D

    All of this - it's easy to get around on foot or by bike, has a nice natural setting, and plenty of nice restaurants and other cultural amenities without large crappy areas. Personally it's a bit too far north for me in terms of the climate (warm months too short, cold ones too long) but overall has a very high quality of life.

    It's one of the shames of the US that a lot of the places with the most amenities are governed by political nutcases, so if you like living in a city (which I do) the politics are the tradeoff for being close to groceries, restaurants and not having a cookie cutter house. The key variable is how much crime and disorder do you have to deal with.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Jack D

    "College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay." Spot on. Ditto Ann Arbor for us in MI.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Ten years back I would have agreed with you , but the totalitarian nature of Le Wokisme is changing that. Just an example, last month I was asked to leave, and never come back to, a local bookstore which I have frequented for around a decade. My sin was less than full-throated support for the Palestinian cause; a discussion I was dragged into kicking and screaming despite my stated reluctance to discuss politics in any shape manner or form. These petty commissars would be happy to send you to the Gulag , if they could. Farmer's markets are still ok, though, mostly because the growers are largely working people.

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @Colin Wright
    @Jack D

    '...College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc...

    That used to be so; you could shrug it off. But then the Leftismo dropped acid, and ever since...

    , @TelfoedJohn
    @Jack D


    College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc.
     
    The niceness of some of these liberal towns is also the seed of their own decline. Look at Swedes, who used to think of themselves as a ‘moral superpower’, before the current immigrant-led rape epidemic. People tend to think that people are basically the same, so if you live among well-behaved nice people, you’ll think that incomers are just as nice. This feeling is only natural, since most people have been living fairly geographically static lives for millennia.

    Ideally, you’d have an element of steel in your veins, as well as being nice. Maybe the Swiss are like this, or the Japanese. Or the Finns. Some history of invasion, but still retaining your culture.

  84. She calls herself “they” because she is binary, which raises an interesting point.

    Read an article by a psychologist not long ago. Wish I could find it again so I could cite it specifically. Anyway, he canvassed several largish groups of liberal young people in different settings and found that while 37% described themselves as gay, lesbian or binary, only 3% had ever had an actual sexual experience with a member of the same physical sex.

    Seems that a lot of what people say today is what they want to be the truth rather than what is the truth.

  85. @Coemgen
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American...
     
    Hm, Ancestry DNA informs me that I'm 1% Basque.

    Should I start checking the Hispanic boxes; change my name to Eugenio; ...?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Telimektar

    Well the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe, every races and ethnic group on earth can be classified as native to their country/homeland except Europeans on their own damn continent. Oh and don’t try to call Basques Hispanics here in France or Spain like AndrewR said.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Telimektar


    ...the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe...
     
    Is this a UN position regarding their languages?

    If so, is it the UN's position that Indo-European languages are not indigenous to Europe?

    Genetically, Basques are western Europeans - overwhelming of the R1b Y haplogroup. They are no more or less genetically European than are the people of the British Isles.

    Regarding calling Basques Hispanics: According to Steve, the current chief of the LAPD is a Basque who calls himself a Hispanic.

    He should probably leave town next time the ETA holds a convention in LA.

    Replies: @Telimektar

    , @Anon
    @Telimektar

    Try telling that to the Greeks or the Italians, I will stand back and catch the pieces. The entire Western civilization started in Greece and was refined by the Romans, as to the Basques and Samis i am struggling to find their contributions at all.

  86. @kaganovitch
    @Known Fact

    This George Santos dude who apparently has lied his way into Congress might be the rare male non-lefty race hoaxer, or at least religion hoaxer.

    Eh, in all likelihood he is lying about being non-Lefty too.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    That’s right, who knows with this guy? Gay or not, “Jew-ish” or not, he does seem without doubt to be a male of some sort, so — as the saying actually goes — Santos might be the exception that tests Steve’s rule

  87. Hot/Crazy Matrix in action.

  88. I’ll take door picture #1, Monty.

  89. I’m an Indian outlaw
    Half Cherokee and Choctaw
    My baby, she’s a Chippewa, haw
    She’s one-of-a-kind

    • Replies: @cool daddy jimbo
    @Dr. X

    I normally don't give a shit about minorities claiming to be aggrieved, but man, that's just insulting.

  90. @AndrewR
    @Shamu

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    As for this article, it's illuminating in many ways. First of all is how the author clearly accepts the concept of transgenderism (or at least gender as non-binary) while rejecting the idea of transracialism. If this girl has the right to be accepted as a "they/them" then why can't she be "Anishinaabe"? Amusingly, the author unquestionably accepts the ethnic identity claim of the pseudonymous internet person without any evidence ("AdvancedSmite, who is also of Indigenous heritage").

    The line about the importance of "band names" is also amusing because it goes against the whole "native solidarity" thing and emphasizes that, while having some commonalities involving their relationships with the Anglos, the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups, in contrast to the homogenizing and patronizing way they're talked about in this country.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Verymuchalive, @John Pepple

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    You’re not normally this perceptive, Mr R, so double bonus points are in order.
    For further reading, I recommend Pier Shepherd’s review of The Rise and Fall of Christian Ireland by Crawford Gribben. Food for thought.
    https://chroniclesmagazine.org/recent-features/irelands-arc-to-a-post-christian-nation/

  91. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m on the official roll of an Indian tribe but have never really thought of myself as an Indian because I’ve never lived on the rez, only visited and have never regarded it as home in any way or the individuals living there “my people” in any way, although my relatives who live there seem nice enough.
    To be recognized as a member of the tribe, DNA tests are not accepted. You have to have documentary evidence that you are descended from one of the original tribal members who entered the reservation back in the 19th century. Genealogy not genetics.
    I’ve never — so far — listed myself as Indian, or “native American” on any official form because when I look in the mirror all I see is a generic white American and I’ve always been perfectly okay with that identity, never really giving it any thought.
    I was thinking recently what advantages I may have missed by not listing myself as NA on all the various forms I’ve filled out over the years. I can’t think of any. I got into the schools I wanted, got the courses I wanted, achieved the grades I strived for. I also got, by and large, the jobs I wanted. In the service, I got the schools and assignments I wanted and was always promoted below the zone. I can’t really see how identifying as other than white would have helped me.
    These days, I only visit the rez to work with veterans. I’ve asked some of them if identifying as Indian (nobody calls themselves “native American,” just Indian (“Indin” in pronunciation usually). Nobody has ever said yes. They tend to just shrug, although one said it’s hell to be an Indian, and I can understand. I think.
    But, considering how things are going these day, the time may soon come where there is not only social, but also legal, advantage to being officially identified as a non-white. If we are moving toward not merely a racially fragmented country, but one governed by an official caste system, with whites at the bottom, maybe I’d best start identifying as a redskin on all government qweep.

    • Replies: @Foley
    @Anonymous

    What does “below the zone” mean?

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo

  92. “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?

    I think by “culture” they mean people of color who look and act like cute white women.

    They don’t want their nice town to turn in to Pine Ridge.

  93. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Let’s get it right: Women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    • Agree: BB753
  94. @Anonymous
    @R.G. Camara

    Meh. You get more of what you pay for.

    Our society rewards people for being nonwhite so of course lots of whites are going to pretend to be something else. Demoralization or opportunism?

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Demoralization or opportunism?

    Rachel Dolezal is still painting herself black and giving herself kinky, frizzy hair — on an OnlyFans page, no less.

    She’s literally taken to whoring herself out in blackface rather than taking a normal job. There’s no opportunism there. That’s demoralization.

  95. @Anon
    "collective giige"

    I guess we're all expected to know what a giige is and how to pronounce this obviously misspelled word. Jokes on them. I don't know what a giggy (sp?) is and don't care enough to look it up.

    Replies: @Nachum

    To my everlasting shame, I Googled it. It seems to be a made-up word referring only to her thing, whatever that thing is, and she spells it with a lowercase letter because…proper capitalization is a tool of the Man? Don’t ask me.

  96. For *God’s* sake, can’t we at *least* agree that when one of these people is exposed as a fraud or a criminal, we can at least stop using their “preferred pronouns” then? Simple: If you’re scum- if you killed someone, if you’re a fake Indian- we call you what God made you.

    I mean, we should get rid of the concept entirely, but shouldn’t even good Leftists who think preferred pronouns are sacred feel a little shame at indulging scum?

  97. Another white young female exhibiting several forms of mild mental illness.

    This seems to be a trend.

    First they want to be a princess and later, like Meghan Markle, insist that they be treated like one.

    Pretending to be an Injun (“cultural appropriation”) and using plural pronouns would get our Fairy Princess locked up in the Olden Days. Or put on mild mood adjusting drugs. Have mothers-in-law lost the collective will to scold?

    Now they (she) just sells fake Siberian American products from the old days and happily chirps online about what thems been up to. Claiming to speak for “Indians” when they ain’t one.

    If them’s obviously deficient hubby could get them knocked up, a certain type of natural reality would set it (Indians don’t like abortion usually). Otherwise living with Princess Krazy Woman here will be a long sad road to the Unhappy Hunting Grounds…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Muggles


    Pretending to be an Injun (“cultural appropriation”) and using plural pronouns would get our Fairy Princess locked up in the Olden Days.
     
    Locked up would have been the least of it. They should have done something like this back when she was 18 at the Greek Quad during Rush Week:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGg

  98. @Batman
    @AKAHorace

    Right. Your average race hoaxer in America is a black who can trace his lineage back to Nubian kings, the Twenty-Third Egyptian Dynasty, and Mansa Musa despite not knowing who his father is.

    Replies: @Nachum

    Black Americans also love to claim Indian (feather) ancestry too.

    In truth, some slaves *did* run away and disappeared into Indian tribes, but not *that* many. And of course those who disappeared, well, disappeared. They didn’t move to urban areas decades later and become black again.

    (Pre-Jackie Robinson, Major League Baseball teams would sometimes smuggle blacks onto their rosters as “Cubans” or “Indians,” but that’s another story. A bunch of Negro League teams even had “Cubans” in their names, maybe partially as a reference to this trick.)

  99. @Technite78
    Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that's what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles... but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that’s what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles… but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.

    Yep, “look at me!”

    Women just seem nuttier–incomplete–before having kids.

    Guys–particularly young guys–do all sorts of crazy stuff. “What if we …” That’s how we’ve changed the world. And, of course, kids change men to, but mostly the rather straightforward logical way–“I’ve gotta get my shit together and earn more money.” I think it’s more like a phase change for women.

    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college–study something of interest–and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects. And then in a couple of years had children and a meaningful–and socially positive–focus and purpose in life.

    Girls having these really long–decades long–periods of being sexually mature, but not actually having children–stuck hormonally/socially in the “notice me and take me as your woman” phase–just seems to bring out the crazy in women. And such pre-child women are now a much, much higher and more influential portion of our population.

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @AnotherDad


    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college–study something of interest–and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects.
     
    And of course, when men realize that having "good prospects" (i.e., a solid career, the ability to maintain a home, dedication to family, etc.) are less likely to attract women than being a "hot guy" (i.e. preoccupation with appearance, status, and promiscuous spending), a race to the bottom is the inevitable result.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @mc23
    @AnotherDad

    I've know a number of women who were crazed because they couldn't have children, only recently has it been creeping up on me that many women are going crazy because they haven't had children.

  100. @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous. East Asian nationalities are regularly interchangeable in the movies already, with the Chinese playing Koreans and vice versa etc etc.

    In my mind, it's akin to a Ukrainian (Scythian) or a light skinned and fair featured Dot Indian claiming to be French: yes, it might not match the modern borders on the map, but the DNA is mostly the same and came from the same place.

    Most racialists wouldn't think twice about such a situation because in their mind "white is white, the end". The only reason anyone cares about the Yellowstone actress is that American Indians are currently a faddish "oppressed minority" so people pay attention to it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @SFG

    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous

    Recent DNA testing/analysis reveals that this is largely incorrect.

    Western Hemisphere migrants have DNA roughly one half Turkic/Mongol and one half Eastern European. They came over a land bridge to Alaska circa 25,000 BC, though estimates vary on timelines.

    According to the definitive book on the subject, “American Indians” are more closely related to Europeans than they are to any “Asian” peoples.

    They came from Siberia and are not like more southern Asians other than the south/central Asians Turkic or Mongols.

    Genetically they are not “Asians” though originally came from the very far north of Asia.

  101. @Shamu
    @Anonymous

    Whites who are not WASP did not abandon; they were forced to assimilate to what the Elites demanded, which was a lower order form of WASP culture. Then they would easily serve the interests and demands of Harvard and Yale grads, as well as Wall Street and Hollywood.

    Everything that emanated from Middle America eventually got destroyed or bought out and reconfigured. Middle America, and northeastern Catholic/Orthodox, whites, did not abandon anything, except for some individuals who whored f0r WASP, and/or Jewish, money. But the Federal government and the many huge corporations, and the educational institutions, all ended any form of cultural expressionn that did not jibe with what the elites wanted.


    We have been homogenized into nothing but white servants of Anglo-Zionist Empire and consumers of products made to keep us even more soul-dead than brain-dead.

    Replies: @Muggles

    We have been homogenized into nothing but white servants of Anglo-Zionist Empire and consumers of products made to keep us even more soul-dead than brain-dead.

    Gee, you must be a lot of fun at parties.

    Do they ever let you out?

  102. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

    All of this – it’s easy to get around on foot or by bike, has a nice natural setting, and plenty of nice restaurants and other cultural amenities without large crappy areas. Personally it’s a bit too far north for me in terms of the climate (warm months too short, cold ones too long) but overall has a very high quality of life.

    It’s one of the shames of the US that a lot of the places with the most amenities are governed by political nutcases, so if you like living in a city (which I do) the politics are the tradeoff for being close to groceries, restaurants and not having a cookie cutter house. The key variable is how much crime and disorder do you have to deal with.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Arclight

    The shithole-ification of American cities is one of the more tragic and avoidable aspects of the last 60 years. Sadly it's spread to much of Western Europe. If only we knew who's behind all this...

  103. @Guest007
    @Redneck farmer

    Universities have been trying to use the Middle Eastern/North African category to get Arabs and Egyptians from claiming to be African-American. Of course, these days many just use the vague Person of Color category to hide what they really are.

    Replies: @Seneca44

    I know a white South African guy who came here (the US) to play tennis for a low tier Uni in his late teens. He married an American girl and obtained US citizenship. It took him about five minutes to figure out that he should check the African American box on every form and application he has since encountered.

  104. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    30-odd years ago when I was young and lusty, all sorts of girls from hippie to biker-chick had a Native American fetish - I think those "dream-catchers" are a thing to this day.


    https://heartofstoneshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/231_original.jpeg

    Replies: @Coemgen

    That dream catcher calls for a dream weaver:

  105. @Jack P
    Will not read garbage calling a singular person "they". "They" is plural.

    Wisconsin has culture - cheese, beer, bratwurst, Packers. It's something!

    Replies: @Coemgen

    Will not read garbage calling a singular person “they”. “They” is plural…

    … and “you” as the singular second person is another abomination.

    Thou and thee are perfectly fine words.

    They are specific and they do not have the overly polite affectation of “you” singular and, usage of thou and thee give one the chance to display one’s superior grammatical skills.

  106. @Telimektar
    @Coemgen

    Well the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe, every races and ethnic group on earth can be classified as native to their country/homeland except Europeans on their own damn continent. Oh and don't try to call Basques Hispanics here in France or Spain like AndrewR said.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Anon

    …the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe…

    Is this a UN position regarding their languages?

    If so, is it the UN’s position that Indo-European languages are not indigenous to Europe?

    Genetically, Basques are western Europeans – overwhelming of the R1b Y haplogroup. They are no more or less genetically European than are the people of the British Isles.

    Regarding calling Basques Hispanics: According to Steve, the current chief of the LAPD is a Basque who calls himself a Hispanic.

    He should probably leave town next time the ETA holds a convention in LA.

    • Replies: @Telimektar
    @Coemgen

    I actually had it wrong, the EU only recognizes the Sami as indigenous, not the Basques, I thought it was the UN and both of them, I can't find anything about what the UN has to say about it, that is still supremely stupid for the EUROPEAN Union to only recognize one group of people as native to the continent, especially since I think that most Sami are quite mixed with Scandinavians, not a lot of pure Sami left as far as I know, and they didn't arrive before the Scandinavians but after, the Scandis arrived from the South while the Sami settled up North later.

    I don't see a problem as them being categorized as indigenous but all people of Europe should be too by that same logic, wherever on a national or regional level, but that wouldn't go well with the Great Replacement agenda.

    Thankfully for LAPD's chief, the ETA probably doesn't give a crap about LA, he is quite safe ;)

  107. @Muggles
    Another white young female exhibiting several forms of mild mental illness.

    This seems to be a trend.

    First they want to be a princess and later, like Meghan Markle, insist that they be treated like one.

    Pretending to be an Injun ("cultural appropriation") and using plural pronouns would get our Fairy Princess locked up in the Olden Days. Or put on mild mood adjusting drugs. Have mothers-in-law lost the collective will to scold?

    Now they (she) just sells fake Siberian American products from the old days and happily chirps online about what thems been up to. Claiming to speak for "Indians" when they ain't one.

    If them's obviously deficient hubby could get them knocked up, a certain type of natural reality would set it (Indians don't like abortion usually). Otherwise living with Princess Krazy Woman here will be a long sad road to the Unhappy Hunting Grounds...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Pretending to be an Injun (“cultural appropriation”) and using plural pronouns would get our Fairy Princess locked up in the Olden Days.

    Locked up would have been the least of it. They should have done something like this back when she was 18 at the Greek Quad during Rush Week:

  108. @slumber_j
    @Redneck farmer


    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.
     
    Well, sometimes it's just for money. In his "Niagara," Mark Twain has a bunch of Irish hucksters at the Falls counterfeiting Indian artifacts--with the big difference that they vehemently deny being Indians when confronted:

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/niagara.html

    The noble Red Man has always been a friend and darling of mine. I love to read about him in tales and legends and romances. I love to read of his inspired sagacity, and his love of the wild free life of mountain and forest, and his general nobility of character, and his stately metaphorical manner of speech, and his chivalrous love for the dusky maiden, and the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. Especially the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. When I found the shops at Niagara Falls full of dainty Indian bead- work, and stunning moccasins, and equally stunning toy figures representing human beings who carried their weapons in holes bored through their arms and bodies, and had feet shaped like a pie, I was filled with emotion. I knew that now, at last, I was going to come face to face with the noble Red Man.

    A lady clerk in a shop told me, indeed, that all her grand array of curiosities were made by the Indians, and that they were plenty about the Falls, and that they were friendly, and it would not be dangerous to speak to them. And sure enough, as I approached the bridge leading over to Luna Island, I came upon a noble Son of the Forest sitting under a tree, diligently at work on a bead reticule. He wore a slouch hat and brogans, and had a short black pipe in his mouth. Thus does the baneful contact with our effeminate civilization dilute the picturesque pomp which is so natural to the Indian when far removed from us in his native haunts. I addressed the relic as follows:

    "Is the Wawhoo-Wang-Wang of the Whack-a- Whack happy? Does the great Speckled Thunder sigh for the warpath, or is his heart contented with dreaming of the dusky maiden, the Pride of the Forest? Does the mighty Sachem yearn to drink the blood of his enemies, or is he satisfied to make bead reticules for the pappooses of the paleface? Speak, sublime relic of bygone grandeur--venerable ruin, speak!'

    The relic said:

    An' is it mesilf, Dennis Hooligan, that ye'd be takin' for a dirty Injin, ye drawlin', lanternjawed, spider-legged divil! By the piper that played be- fore Moses, I'll ate ye!

    I went away from there.

    By and by, in the neighborhood of the Terrapin Tower, I came upon a gentle daughter of the aborigines in fringed and beaded buckskin moccasins and leggins, seated on a bench with her pretty wares about her. She had just carved out a wooden chief that had a strong family resemblance to a clothes- pin, and was now boring a hole through his abdomen to put his bow through. I hesitated a moment, and then addressed her:

    Is the heart of the forest maiden heavy? Is the Laughing Tadpole lonely? Does she mourn over the extinguished council-fires of her race, and the vanished glory of her ancestors? Or does her sad spirit wander afar toward the hunting-grounds whither her brave Gobbler-of-the-Lightnings is gone? Why is my daughter silent? Has she aught against the paleface stranger?

    The maiden said:

    Faix, an' is it Biddy Malone ye dare to be callin' names? Lave this, or I'll shy your lean carcass over the cataract, ye sniveling blaggard!

    I adjourned from there also.

    Replies: @Pierre de Craon, @duncsbaby

    Providing a link is a generous touch, since the essay as a whole is a comic masterpiece. Thank you.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  109. @Arclight
    Madison is a very nice town but is loaded with totally demented lefties that you cannot avoid almost anywhere you go. I attended a public meeting there some years ago that was hijacked by climate activists (the subject of the meeting had nothing to do with this) and several of them struggled to keep from crying as they spoke. My colleague that attended with me is a Democrat but was left half bewildered and half in stitches by this performance - I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Barnard

    I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.

    How would it be possible to not understand this? Also, that these people have far more power and influence in the coalition than he does and if they knew he was mocking them they could destroy his career.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Barnard

    I find a lot of normie Dems who are not very online have no idea just how insane the left is these days on a whole range of issues. My own mother was going along with the idea that a man can just identify as a woman and we should all play along until I made some comments about how she actually look into what goes along with transitioning (effects of hormones, surgery, other mental disorders, etc.) and once she actually did she was horrified.

  110. Speaking of Madison, Wisconsin and hate hoaxes, I cannot find any up to date information on that fair city’s number one hate hoaxer, Althea Berstein. It is like her online history just stops in 2020 after the police released their report saying “it is obvious these are self inflicted, superficial burns, but we can’t say that for political reasons.” I wonder what she is up to now.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Barnard


    I wonder what she is up to now.
     
    When you Google "Althea Bernstein" you can get an "update" or "now" the first of which shows some photos of her before and "after" her faked burns. Looks okay "now." Smiling.

    All of the stories are two years old, most repeating the same "lack of evidence" conclusion.

    I didn't go to the "Instagram" section, as my appetite for punishment only goes so far.

    Hate Hoaxers face no social sanction or public ridicule. I'm sure the Comrades have a special medal created just for them.
    , @Anonymous
    @Barnard

    She was part of the crowd that tried to set fire to the Madison government building on the night of June 24, got splashed with burning fuel, and told this silly story to explain it away. The cops would have known right away what was up.

    OTOH, the perp who actually threw the fire bomb is now in prison, presumably after being identified by members of the crowd. This story would be a lot more aggravating if he was still at liberty. As it is however, it's probably for the best that everybody forgets about her.

  111. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture? Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture. But I don’t hear that much anymore.

    Yes, and ironically, this view of culture developed from right wing German and European Romanticists and philosophers, culminating in Nietzsche and Heidegger, who wanted a return to “authentic,” localist, and volkisch culture against rationalism, modernity, and European high culture. 20th century eftist philosophers, existentialists, postmodernists were heavily influenced by Nietzsche/Heidegger and these trends.

  112. @Malcolm X-Lax
    My history is very similar to Elizabeth Warren's. My dad's family came from Ark/Okla and I grew up under the belief that I had some Cherokee in me. My father would make reference to a great grandmother that was supposedly 1/4th Cherokee and we even had a pic of her sporting, wouldn't ya know, high cheekbones. My dad was quite certain of our native ancestry and proud. I was indifferent. Well, fast forward 35 years and I, no longer indifferent, have found that AncestryDNA Inc. has proved both my sister and I are 100% Northern European (70% England). And that's ok.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    You lose half of your parents’ combined DNA, so it’s possible what they pick up as Indian was lost somewhere in the generations. Or do I misunderstand genetics?

  113. @AnotherDad
    @Technite78


    Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that’s what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles… but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.
     

    Yep, "look at me!"

    Women just seem nuttier--incomplete--before having kids.

    Guys--particularly young guys--do all sorts of crazy stuff. "What if we ..." That's how we've changed the world. And, of course, kids change men to, but mostly the rather straightforward logical way--"I've gotta get my shit together and earn more money." I think it's more like a phase change for women.

    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college--study something of interest--and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects. And then in a couple of years had children and a meaningful--and socially positive--focus and purpose in life.

    Girls having these really long--decades long--periods of being sexually mature, but not actually having children--stuck hormonally/socially in the "notice me and take me as your woman" phase--just seems to bring out the crazy in women. And such pre-child women are now a much, much higher and more influential portion of our population.

    Replies: @Technite78, @mc23

    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college–study something of interest–and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects.

    And of course, when men realize that having “good prospects” (i.e., a solid career, the ability to maintain a home, dedication to family, etc.) are less likely to attract women than being a “hot guy” (i.e. preoccupation with appearance, status, and promiscuous spending), a race to the bottom is the inevitable result.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Technite78


    And of course, when men realize that having “good prospects” (i.e., a solid career, the ability to maintain a home, dedication to family, etc.) are less likely to attract women than being a “hot guy” (i.e. preoccupation with appearance, status, and promiscuous spending), a race to the bottom is the inevitable result.
     
    And guys just check out of the labor market ... which is happening.

    The reality is the "goods" have declined in quality and value and come with higher--potentially much higher--costs. The supply and demand curves simply don't cross at the same place anymore.
  114. @Steve Sailer
    @Coemgen

    The LAPD police chief identifies as Latino due to his Basque ancestry.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @I, Libertine

    Funny, seeing as Basque isn’t even a Latin language.

    Your police chief hasn’t unlocked the true potential of being one of the few groups of whites who are non-aryan and can legitimately claim to have been almost wiped out by the Indo-European invasions.

  115. @Shamu
    @Twinkie

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @megabar, @Twinkie, @Hibernian

    > [Yellowstone is] Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @megabar


    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.
     
    Holy shit dude. You really opened my eyes. What's next? You going to tell me The Jeffersons isn't a documentary?

    Replies: @Coemgen

    , @Twinkie
    @megabar


    The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.
     
    I don't think that's the message of the show. At least a part of the message seems to me to be that, in order to amass that kind of property (wealth) and then protect it, it takes a lot of skullduggery and derring-do, good or bad (and often bad). It's pretty clear in the show that the Duttons resort to all sorts of extra-judicial methods, including killings, as well as inside politicking.

    To the extent that John Dutton is "better" than the developers and corporate raiders who covet his land, it is that he believes in family, legacy, tradition, and continuity as well as the appreciation for "a quiet way of life," for lack of a better term, rather than the pursuit of profit-maximization and self-aggrandizement. Indeed, the corporate types are confused by his motives - in their view, he can simply sell the land for billions and have Midas-like wealth that can underwrite any hobby ranch elsewhere (Oklahoma was cited) rather than fight tooth and nail and risk losing it all.
  116. @Cagey Beast
    @kaganovitch

    Would a creature like Lori Lightfoot be celebrated if White ladies weren't setting the tone? "The personal is political" isn't just a slogan for them; it's an explanation for why they've been kept out of politics for nearly all of recorded history.

    A homely little Black lesbian only becomes a rare gem in a political culture that's given up on public affairs (ie politics) and is instead obsessed with promoting people with the most loser points.

    Women like to have one handsome leader who emotes and scolds on their behalf (eg Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron) and then the rest of the positions can be filled with special needs types, as an act of charity and a way to "smash the White patriarchy" that they both love and hate passionately.

    Replies: @Lurker, @HammerJack, @Hibernian

    A homely little Black lesbian

    Homely?

    Your generosity of spirit does you credit sir!

    • LOL: Cagey Beast
  117. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Steve Sailer

    I first visited the South around 1986 and the old culture, for good or ill, was still very much alive, although the writing was on the wall -we first saw Life Of Brian in Cork, which had just been certified after an 8 year ban.

    Our hosts in our West Cork B&B were strong Republicans, indeed the daughter of the house would hardly speak to us - the local church had a memorial to the fallen "1916-19-", the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable - crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home.

    And we saw this chap close up, an amazing sight, he would come up to swimmers to say hello. He only vanished in 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungie

    Fungie was known to interact playfully with swimmers, surfers, kayakers and divers in the water. There have not been any recorded cases of Fungie being aggressive towards humans. Although it is normal for social animals like dolphins to live in close contact with each other, it is still a rare occurrence for them to seek out human contact, and Fungie is the first recorded occurrence of a dolphin interacting positively with humans in the wild in Ireland.

    Everybody there called him "Funghi", because "he's a fun guy". There was a wonderful picture in the pub of the local priest being towed along in a rubber ring while Funghi leapt over him.

    We've gone back a fair few times and it's a lot more like the UK now (including better beer, Ireland was a real ale desert). The North, frozen for 40 years by "the Troubles", is probably a better place to find Old Ireland now.

    Replies: @Lurker

    the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable – crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home

    Minus the Mass part, most non-city pubs were like that in Britain too, into the 1970s at least.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Lurker

    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn't have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There's a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK. The Industrial Revolution hit the UK first and the food shortages created by the 2 world wars didn't help, so the British diet (the prole diet especially) consisted of industrially made processed foods like crisps (potato chips) and macro-brewed beer and tinned (canned) beans and sad white bread and sausages made of mystery meat, etc. The iconic fish and chips (actually a Sephardic Jewish dish) was distinctly lacking in green vegetables also.

    My much older brother in law received a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford in the early 1950s. At that time (until 1954) WWII food rationing was still in effect and he said that the food that was available was pretty grim. Britain was broke and they were not going to spend their scarce foreign currency bringing in fresh produce (they had to bring in a certain amount of grain or people would have starved). In the US in winter, even before the age of air freight, in the winter there was a fair bit of stuff that grew in southern California and in Florida and which could be brought by train or truck to northern markets in the winter. Train cars refrigerated with ice were available as early as the 1850s. Yes, they were not the world's greatest strawberries or tomatoes but they were fresh (meaning not canned) but in the UK not a lot of fresh produce was available in winter.

    The US was a little like that too - chef Jacques Pepin recalls going to an American supermarket in the early 1960s and asking for mushrooms and they directed him to aisle 7 which was the canned food aisle.

    Replies: @Nico

  118. @AKAHorace

    Race hoaxers have a fairly discernible pattern: they are mostly left wing women from academia or at least a college town who want to be activists and like to play dress up,
     
    This is a bit of a biased sampling, like sampling aircraft that get shot down rather than those that return to base. As "AdvancedSmite" says

    the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.


    Most race hoaxers probably just a tick a box on a form, keep their mouth shut and never exposed as no one has the time or inclination to look up their background.

    I know several men who claim negligible indigenous background making them officially Metis.

    Replies: @Batman, @Kim, @Chrisnonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    Speaking of hoaxes:

    FBI ups reward for info on pipe bombs outside RNC and DNC headquarters. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/fbi-reward-bomb-dnc-rnc-00076329

    In related news, OJ has also upped the reward for Nicole’s real killer.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
  119. @Redneck farmer
    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Replies: @SFG, @Guest007, @slumber_j, @mc23, @Veteran Aryan

    All these people fleeing White Priviledge, god bless them all.

  120. @AnotherDad
    @Technite78


    Seems like a typical case of attention-whoring to me. She noticed what gets attention, and that’s what she became. It could just as easily been green hair and ugly tattoos.

    It used to be just hem lengths and hair styles… but our current culture has no ability to curb the desperate need by some women to be *noticed*, whatever the cost.
     

    Yep, "look at me!"

    Women just seem nuttier--incomplete--before having kids.

    Guys--particularly young guys--do all sorts of crazy stuff. "What if we ..." That's how we've changed the world. And, of course, kids change men to, but mostly the rather straightforward logical way--"I've gotta get my shit together and earn more money." I think it's more like a phase change for women.

    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college--study something of interest--and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects. And then in a couple of years had children and a meaningful--and socially positive--focus and purpose in life.

    Girls having these really long--decades long--periods of being sexually mature, but not actually having children--stuck hormonally/socially in the "notice me and take me as your woman" phase--just seems to bring out the crazy in women. And such pre-child women are now a much, much higher and more influential portion of our population.

    Replies: @Technite78, @mc23

    I’ve know a number of women who were crazed because they couldn’t have children, only recently has it been creeping up on me that many women are going crazy because they haven’t had children.

  121. @Arclight
    @Jack D

    All of this - it's easy to get around on foot or by bike, has a nice natural setting, and plenty of nice restaurants and other cultural amenities without large crappy areas. Personally it's a bit too far north for me in terms of the climate (warm months too short, cold ones too long) but overall has a very high quality of life.

    It's one of the shames of the US that a lot of the places with the most amenities are governed by political nutcases, so if you like living in a city (which I do) the politics are the tradeoff for being close to groceries, restaurants and not having a cookie cutter house. The key variable is how much crime and disorder do you have to deal with.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    The shithole-ification of American cities is one of the more tragic and avoidable aspects of the last 60 years. Sadly it’s spread to much of Western Europe. If only we knew who’s behind all this…

    • LOL: Colin Wright
  122. @Lurker
    @YetAnotherAnon


    the men still piled out of Mass into the pub while the women went home to get lunch. Lunch in a pub outside of cities was almost unobtainable – crisps and peanuts the limit. Because nearly all the customers were locals and ate at home
     
    Minus the Mass part, most non-city pubs were like that in Britain too, into the 1970s at least.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn’t have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There’s a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK. The Industrial Revolution hit the UK first and the food shortages created by the 2 world wars didn’t help, so the British diet (the prole diet especially) consisted of industrially made processed foods like crisps (potato chips) and macro-brewed beer and tinned (canned) beans and sad white bread and sausages made of mystery meat, etc. The iconic fish and chips (actually a Sephardic Jewish dish) was distinctly lacking in green vegetables also.

    My much older brother in law received a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford in the early 1950s. At that time (until 1954) WWII food rationing was still in effect and he said that the food that was available was pretty grim. Britain was broke and they were not going to spend their scarce foreign currency bringing in fresh produce (they had to bring in a certain amount of grain or people would have starved). In the US in winter, even before the age of air freight, in the winter there was a fair bit of stuff that grew in southern California and in Florida and which could be brought by train or truck to northern markets in the winter. Train cars refrigerated with ice were available as early as the 1850s. Yes, they were not the world’s greatest strawberries or tomatoes but they were fresh (meaning not canned) but in the UK not a lot of fresh produce was available in winter.

    The US was a little like that too – chef Jacques Pepin recalls going to an American supermarket in the early 1960s and asking for mushrooms and they directed him to aisle 7 which was the canned food aisle.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Nico
    @Jack D


    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn’t have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There’s a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK.
     
    I’ll not question that quintessentially British recipes are terrible (though they’ve got some excellent local raw products), but Indian food, at least of the variety usually consumed in Britain, is hardly a marker of good taste and refinement.

    Replies: @Jack D

  123. @Almost Missouri

    They noted that the self-identified Native American population grew by 85% between the 2010 and 2020 census, from just over five million to well over nine million.
     
    I don't know where these activists get their census numbers, but it's apparently not from the US Census Bureau. The Census Bureau’s quickfacts page gives the 2021 American Indian (including Alaskan) portion of the population as 1.3%, which works out to 4.3 million people. If you toss in Native Hawaiian (whom I don’t think "they" would—usually this category is rolled into Asian and Pacific Islander) you can get it up to about 5 million, which is still a far cry from "well over nine million".

    The activist does have a kinda sorta point though that the "Native American" population did grow suspiciously quickly lately, even if not by the enormous "85%" claim. There are several possible explanations for this, not mutually exclusive.

    “That’s not population growth,” they said.
     
    The activist is probably correct that a portion of the growth is transracialism, or "flight from white" in Steve's characteristically memorable coinage.

    “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.
     
    Indians are unique in the US in that they keep their own counts of their numbers, which so far as I know have never been compared to the Census Bureau number. It would be interesting to see a comparison.

    I've never heard if the Tribes have totaled up their various Tribal Rolls into a grand national number. Maybe so, and that's where the "well over nine million" figure comes from? If so, that would be funny/strange if the Tribes think there are more than twice as many Indians as the Feds think, since that would mean Americans are Federally underclaiming Indianhood rather than overclaiming it.



    Photos from the article of women whom the article says are actual enrolled Tribal members:

    https://madison365.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/KristieGoforth-horiz.jpg

    https://madison365.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ArvinaMartin.jpg

    Arvina Martin looks unsettlingly like Kamala "dot Indian" Harris.

    Replies: @Guest007, @Travis

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html

    In 2020, the American Indian alone population (3.7 million) accounted for 1.1% of all people living in the United States, compared with 0.9% (2.9 million) in 2010.

    An additional 5.9 million people identified as American India and another race group, such as White or Black. Together, the American Indian alone or in combination population comprised 9.7 million people (2.9% of the total population) in 2020, up from 5.2 million (1.7%) in 2010.

    One reason for the tremendous growth in the Indian population is due to genetic testing which was not widely used prior to 2010. I had no idea that my children had significant Native American ancestry until they did DNA testing in 2012 which showed they were 8% Native American. On the 2010 census they were counted as white alone, but in 2020 they were counted as being mixed race. We were surprised to discover our children had significant Indian DNA, since my wife always insisted she had zero Indian ancestry. But DNA testing indicates my wife is actually 16% Indian. She is Chilean so it was not a complete surprise to me. But her family still insists they have no Indian heritage. Without DNA testing I would have assumed my wife was 95% European, but knew she probably had some Amerindian ancestry from her mother (my mother in-law looks like Lynda Carter)

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Travis


    DNA testing indicates my wife is actually 16% Indian. She is Chilean so it was not a complete surprise to me. But her family still insists they have no Indian heritage.
     
    This is very typical for Chileans and Argentines. Most Mexicans understand and admit that they are of mixed indigenous blood. But the South Americans are in total denial. They just happen to have extremely straight black hair, that's all.

    In the US having a bit of Indian blood was OK. Black blood was taboo though among whites. The same insistence that Chileans have about having no Indian blood was seen among Americans wrt African blood. The amount that you would freely admit to having was nada, none, zero.

    Most American whites do in fact have no African blood but for old stock whites from the South it's not unusual to have a little. In early days the color lines were not as strictly enforced, not between indentured servants (who were little more than slaves) and actual slaves and not in French Louisiana. But because of the operation of the color line, you are generally talking about very small amounts. For a non-Hispanic white person in the US to be 16% black would be very unusual. The few groups that are actually that black usually insist that they are Indian instead (e.g. the Lumbees). The world's only kinky haired Indians. Before DNA this kind of self-delusion was entirely possible.

  124. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

    “College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.” Spot on. Ditto Ann Arbor for us in MI.

  125. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    Definitely one of the lesser Anglo contributions to civilization.

  126. @Barnard
    @Arclight


    I am not sure he realized people like this were part of the political coalition he supports.
     
    How would it be possible to not understand this? Also, that these people have far more power and influence in the coalition than he does and if they knew he was mocking them they could destroy his career.

    Replies: @Arclight

    I find a lot of normie Dems who are not very online have no idea just how insane the left is these days on a whole range of issues. My own mother was going along with the idea that a man can just identify as a woman and we should all play along until I made some comments about how she actually look into what goes along with transitioning (effects of hormones, surgery, other mental disorders, etc.) and once she actually did she was horrified.

  127. @Travis
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html

    In 2020, the American Indian alone population (3.7 million) accounted for 1.1% of all people living in the United States, compared with 0.9% (2.9 million) in 2010.

    An additional 5.9 million people identified as American India and another race group, such as White or Black. Together, the American Indian alone or in combination population comprised 9.7 million people (2.9% of the total population) in 2020, up from 5.2 million (1.7%) in 2010.

    One reason for the tremendous growth in the Indian population is due to genetic testing which was not widely used prior to 2010. I had no idea that my children had significant Native American ancestry until they did DNA testing in 2012 which showed they were 8% Native American. On the 2010 census they were counted as white alone, but in 2020 they were counted as being mixed race. We were surprised to discover our children had significant Indian DNA, since my wife always insisted she had zero Indian ancestry. But DNA testing indicates my wife is actually 16% Indian. She is Chilean so it was not a complete surprise to me. But her family still insists they have no Indian heritage. Without DNA testing I would have assumed my wife was 95% European, but knew she probably had some Amerindian ancestry from her mother (my mother in-law looks like Lynda Carter)

    Replies: @Jack D

    DNA testing indicates my wife is actually 16% Indian. She is Chilean so it was not a complete surprise to me. But her family still insists they have no Indian heritage.

    This is very typical for Chileans and Argentines. Most Mexicans understand and admit that they are of mixed indigenous blood. But the South Americans are in total denial. They just happen to have extremely straight black hair, that’s all.

    In the US having a bit of Indian blood was OK. Black blood was taboo though among whites. The same insistence that Chileans have about having no Indian blood was seen among Americans wrt African blood. The amount that you would freely admit to having was nada, none, zero.

    Most American whites do in fact have no African blood but for old stock whites from the South it’s not unusual to have a little. In early days the color lines were not as strictly enforced, not between indentured servants (who were little more than slaves) and actual slaves and not in French Louisiana. But because of the operation of the color line, you are generally talking about very small amounts. For a non-Hispanic white person in the US to be 16% black would be very unusual. The few groups that are actually that black usually insist that they are Indian instead (e.g. the Lumbees). The world’s only kinky haired Indians. Before DNA this kind of self-delusion was entirely possible.

  128. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

    College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Ten years back I would have agreed with you , but the totalitarian nature of Le Wokisme is changing that. Just an example, last month I was asked to leave, and never come back to, a local bookstore which I have frequented for around a decade. My sin was less than full-throated support for the Palestinian cause; a discussion I was dragged into kicking and screaming despite my stated reluctance to discuss politics in any shape manner or form. These petty commissars would be happy to send you to the Gulag , if they could. Farmer’s markets are still ok, though, mostly because the growers are largely working people.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @kaganovitch


    but the totalitarian nature of Le Wokisme is changing that. Just an example, last month I was asked to leave, and never come back to, a local bookstore which I have frequented for around a decade.
    These petty commissars would be happy to send you to the Gulag , if they could.
     
    Yes, all excellent observations and style.

    Petty tyrants are quite common and among the self entitled Woke Bullies, almost a badge of honor to be one.

    Free speech is no longer advocated or even tolerated. You have to be affirmatively "for" or "opposed" to the various Wokie bugaboos or special populations, not merely tolerant or indifferent.

    That is always a fascist "tell." Always.

  129. Here is another picture of Katie nibiiwakamigkwe in her pretendian getup, drinking from a Stanley stainless steel thermos Native American drinking gourd:

    https://tonemadison.com/articles/conduit-nibiiwakamigkwe-on-the-challenges-to-indigenous-artists/

    In this article, Nibiiwakamigkwe expounds on the challenges to Indigenous artists, such as keeping up your tan in the dark Wisconsin winters and sourcing the right color makeup and hair dye.

  130. ‘…“That’s not population growth,” they said. “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.’

    That suggests a major potential revenue stream for various minor tribes.

    That casino not really taking off? How about online tribal enrollments at $10,000.00 a head?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Colin Wright

    Not a bad idea. It's like issuing more stock though. When the profits come in, they must be split among more Injuns. Or, you could make them probationary Indians or something ...

  131. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

    ‘…College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc…

    That used to be so; you could shrug it off. But then the Leftismo dropped acid, and ever since…

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  132. Does anyone want to make a friendly wager that every indigenous activist in this story turns out to be a pretendian?

  133. @Coemgen
    @Telimektar


    ...the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe...
     
    Is this a UN position regarding their languages?

    If so, is it the UN's position that Indo-European languages are not indigenous to Europe?

    Genetically, Basques are western Europeans - overwhelming of the R1b Y haplogroup. They are no more or less genetically European than are the people of the British Isles.

    Regarding calling Basques Hispanics: According to Steve, the current chief of the LAPD is a Basque who calls himself a Hispanic.

    He should probably leave town next time the ETA holds a convention in LA.

    Replies: @Telimektar

    I actually had it wrong, the EU only recognizes the Sami as indigenous, not the Basques, I thought it was the UN and both of them, I can’t find anything about what the UN has to say about it, that is still supremely stupid for the EUROPEAN Union to only recognize one group of people as native to the continent, especially since I think that most Sami are quite mixed with Scandinavians, not a lot of pure Sami left as far as I know, and they didn’t arrive before the Scandinavians but after, the Scandis arrived from the South while the Sami settled up North later.

    I don’t see a problem as them being categorized as indigenous but all people of Europe should be too by that same logic, wherever on a national or regional level, but that wouldn’t go well with the Great Replacement agenda.

    Thankfully for LAPD’s chief, the ETA probably doesn’t give a crap about LA, he is quite safe 😉

  134. @Guest007
    @Almost Missouri

    One would think that the Bureau of Indian Affairs could total up the number of recognized tribal members in less than a day.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Charlotte

    Everything to do with tribes is sensitive, it seems. Tribal enrollment is handled by each tribe-not BIA, and some tribes object to sharing that data with the feds, in part because it would be subject to FOIA.

  135. @Steve Sailer
    @Coemgen

    The LAPD police chief identifies as Latino due to his Basque ancestry.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @I, Libertine

    Are Basques “Hispanic”? They don’t speak Spanish as a native language. Basque has no similarity to Spanish or any other European tongue. The DNA test apparently distinguished Basque from Spanish as ethnicities. Just asking.

  136. @Cagey Beast
    @kaganovitch

    Would a creature like Lori Lightfoot be celebrated if White ladies weren't setting the tone? "The personal is political" isn't just a slogan for them; it's an explanation for why they've been kept out of politics for nearly all of recorded history.

    A homely little Black lesbian only becomes a rare gem in a political culture that's given up on public affairs (ie politics) and is instead obsessed with promoting people with the most loser points.

    Women like to have one handsome leader who emotes and scolds on their behalf (eg Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron) and then the rest of the positions can be filled with special needs types, as an act of charity and a way to "smash the White patriarchy" that they both love and hate passionately.

    Replies: @Lurker, @HammerJack, @Hibernian

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @HammerJack

    It looks like Newsom (like Trudeau and Macron) has figured out how to thrive in the era of matriarchal managerialism: be the good looking guy who flatters the ladies, affirms their credentials, beats back their "impostor syndrome" and takes part in their latest scolding campaign.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

    , @Colin Wright
    @HammerJack

    So why hasn't he resigned? Is he a woman?

  137. @Shamu
    @Twinkie

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @megabar, @Twinkie, @Hibernian

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    As I mentioned elsewhere on the blog, my wife and I own farms in Appalachia and the Midwest. And she has kin who ranch.

    Real farming/ranching is mostly grinding routine and a lot of praying for favorable weather (and high prices and low input costs). There isn’t much drama to put on TV.

    Yellowstone is a “guilty pleasure” for my wife and me. Sure, it’s a Hollywood product, but it sure beats gazillion cop, lawyer, medical dramas that valorize city life and urban values.

    The last recent movie I enjoyed was Taylor Sheridan-written Hell or High Water.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    Sheridan's Wind River is a very mixed bag (It was the white man! The white man was doing the molestation on the rez! To his credit, he respects his audience enough to say this about the one case when it actually probably was a white man), but it has at least two interesting scenes: when the FBI chick meets the local troublemakers, and when the cops meet the security staff in the parking lot.

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Twinkie

    +1 on Hell or High Water.

  138. @Mike Tre
    @Twinkie

    there is a slight resemblance to val kilmer, who also claims to have amerindian ancestry.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    there is a slight resemblance to val kilmer, who also claims to have amerindian ancestry.

    I remember Valk Kilmer in this:

    Kelsey “Asbille” is just a Hapa (or “Eurasian”). Supposedly she is proud of her Air Force general/doctor dad. Funny way of showing that, erasing his surname from hers.

  139. @Redneck farmer
    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    Replies: @SFG, @Guest007, @slumber_j, @mc23, @Veteran Aryan

    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.

    We were always taught to be proud of our Cherokee heritage, even wearing it as a badge of honor when the History Channel referred to us as “a family of horse thieves, cattle rustlers, and whiskey peddlers.”

    But, hey, good look holding onto the country, paleface.

  140. @Twinkie
    @Shamu


    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    As I mentioned elsewhere on the blog, my wife and I own farms in Appalachia and the Midwest. And she has kin who ranch.

    Real farming/ranching is mostly grinding routine and a lot of praying for favorable weather (and high prices and low input costs). There isn't much drama to put on TV.

    Yellowstone is a "guilty pleasure" for my wife and me. Sure, it's a Hollywood product, but it sure beats gazillion cop, lawyer, medical dramas that valorize city life and urban values.

    The last recent movie I enjoyed was Taylor Sheridan-written Hell or High Water.

    https://youtu.be/JQoqsKoJVDw

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    Sheridan’s Wind River is a very mixed bag (It was the white man! The white man was doing the molestation on the rez! To his credit, he respects his audience enough to say this about the one case when it actually probably was a white man), but it has at least two interesting scenes: when the FBI chick meets the local troublemakers, and when the cops meet the security staff in the parking lot.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @J.Ross

    I haven't seen this show. But my sister was for a long time a school counselor in a reservation adjacent school district.

    As such she encountered some rez kids at times and heard a lot about the life there.

    Incest is a big genetic problem there since for most of recent time their leadership opposed "outside" marriages even to other Indians. This particular somewhat smaller tribe is/was not well liked by other tribes.

    Plus, alcohol and male violence made this easier and evidently tolerated.

    This probably explains some of the IQ and social dysfunction. No White Eyes involved...

    Replies: @J.Ross

  141. If the world were less dumb, nonwhites would do this — as vikings. ^%$#ing full-blown vikings. They would tear cities up, pilot marine-capable riverine craft, serve as objective outsiders in elected positions, enter battle trances through chanting, sport hornless helmets, and get drunk at poetry slams.

  142. @Anonymous
    I'm on the official roll of an Indian tribe but have never really thought of myself as an Indian because I've never lived on the rez, only visited and have never regarded it as home in any way or the individuals living there "my people" in any way, although my relatives who live there seem nice enough.
    To be recognized as a member of the tribe, DNA tests are not accepted. You have to have documentary evidence that you are descended from one of the original tribal members who entered the reservation back in the 19th century. Genealogy not genetics.
    I've never -- so far -- listed myself as Indian, or "native American" on any official form because when I look in the mirror all I see is a generic white American and I've always been perfectly okay with that identity, never really giving it any thought.
    I was thinking recently what advantages I may have missed by not listing myself as NA on all the various forms I've filled out over the years. I can't think of any. I got into the schools I wanted, got the courses I wanted, achieved the grades I strived for. I also got, by and large, the jobs I wanted. In the service, I got the schools and assignments I wanted and was always promoted below the zone. I can't really see how identifying as other than white would have helped me.
    These days, I only visit the rez to work with veterans. I've asked some of them if identifying as Indian (nobody calls themselves "native American," just Indian ("Indin" in pronunciation usually). Nobody has ever said yes. They tend to just shrug, although one said it's hell to be an Indian, and I can understand. I think.
    But, considering how things are going these day, the time may soon come where there is not only social, but also legal, advantage to being officially identified as a non-white. If we are moving toward not merely a racially fragmented country, but one governed by an official caste system, with whites at the bottom, maybe I'd best start identifying as a redskin on all government qweep.

    Replies: @Foley

    What does “below the zone” mean?

    • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @Foley

    It's when the wide receiver cuts off his route early, before the defense can step up into the crease.

  143. @Jack D
    @AndrewR


    the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups,
     
    Not just separate groups but separate groups that had spent the last several thousand years fighting with each other. The Indians didn't wait until the white people showed up to become fearsome warriors - they had had plenty of practice beforehand. Nor did they necessarily all unite to fight white people once the white people showed up. Usually they were eager to ally with white people in order to fight their traditional enemies, the tribe next door.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    Nor did they necessarily all unite to fight white people once the white people showed up. Usually they were eager to ally with white people in order to fight their traditional enemies, the tribe next door.

    And this was completely understandable. Wasn’t wypipo killed their kin for possibly thousands of years. There’s a lot of BS about divide and conquer among empire-builders excessively impressed by their own skills at intrigue. In reality, all they were doing was working with traditional and longstanding local animosities that weren’t just squabbles, but existential enmities based on the shedding of rivers of blood.

    And, historically-speaking, outsiders often simply did marriage-based alliances with locals. The Jim Crow-style race-based caste system was a fairly unique arrangement that Indians did not fully grasp until they were completely subdued. By then, it was far too late to do anything (i.e. create a grand confederation of Indians in North America*) about their complete defeat and systematic exclusion from many aspects of their conquerors’ society.

    * A great undertaking that could succeed only against the odds, given the difficulty of maintaining alliances against the challenges outlined in game theory (e.g. free-riding, and so on), as well as their demographic, cognitive and technological deficits.

  144. “We’re craving culture here.”

    It sounds better if you say it with a George Costanza voice:

    Cultcha! I’m gonna need some cultcha here!

    • Thanks: Muggles
  145. @JR Ewing
    @Shamu


    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    I thought the first season was pretty good, but it devolved rapidly during the second season and by now it reminds me a lot of Justified, with all of the extrajudicial killings and explosions and outlandish plot holes that just get forgotten and swept under the rug after every episode. Still entertaining, but mostly a farce by this point.

    Interestingly, Neil McDonough's creepy appearance was the beginning of the end for each show.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I thought the first season was pretty good, but it devolved rapidly during the second season and by now it reminds me a lot of Justified,……….

    I saw parts of one or two episodes of Justified. It struck me as being the same old liberal Hollywood bulls**t wrapped up in a fake-based rural disguise.

    And the G-man is of course the good guy. F*%k that!. The G-men are never the good guys.

  146. @Jack D
    @Lurker

    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn't have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There's a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK. The Industrial Revolution hit the UK first and the food shortages created by the 2 world wars didn't help, so the British diet (the prole diet especially) consisted of industrially made processed foods like crisps (potato chips) and macro-brewed beer and tinned (canned) beans and sad white bread and sausages made of mystery meat, etc. The iconic fish and chips (actually a Sephardic Jewish dish) was distinctly lacking in green vegetables also.

    My much older brother in law received a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford in the early 1950s. At that time (until 1954) WWII food rationing was still in effect and he said that the food that was available was pretty grim. Britain was broke and they were not going to spend their scarce foreign currency bringing in fresh produce (they had to bring in a certain amount of grain or people would have starved). In the US in winter, even before the age of air freight, in the winter there was a fair bit of stuff that grew in southern California and in Florida and which could be brought by train or truck to northern markets in the winter. Train cars refrigerated with ice were available as early as the 1850s. Yes, they were not the world's greatest strawberries or tomatoes but they were fresh (meaning not canned) but in the UK not a lot of fresh produce was available in winter.

    The US was a little like that too - chef Jacques Pepin recalls going to an American supermarket in the early 1960s and asking for mushrooms and they directed him to aisle 7 which was the canned food aisle.

    Replies: @Nico

    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn’t have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There’s a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK.

    I’ll not question that quintessentially British recipes are terrible (though they’ve got some excellent local raw products), but Indian food, at least of the variety usually consumed in Britain, is hardly a marker of good taste and refinement.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Nico

    It depends on what you are comparing it to. Compared to the traditional English prole diet, it is elevated. At least it has spices and vegetables in it. Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  147. @Technite78
    @AnotherDad


    Sixty years ago, Miss LeClaire with seemingly a pretty face and nice breasts would be pretty darn happy her lot in life and would go to college–study something of interest–and use her attractiveness to land a young man with good prospects.
     
    And of course, when men realize that having "good prospects" (i.e., a solid career, the ability to maintain a home, dedication to family, etc.) are less likely to attract women than being a "hot guy" (i.e. preoccupation with appearance, status, and promiscuous spending), a race to the bottom is the inevitable result.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    And of course, when men realize that having “good prospects” (i.e., a solid career, the ability to maintain a home, dedication to family, etc.) are less likely to attract women than being a “hot guy” (i.e. preoccupation with appearance, status, and promiscuous spending), a race to the bottom is the inevitable result.

    And guys just check out of the labor market … which is happening.

    The reality is the “goods” have declined in quality and value and come with higher–potentially much higher–costs. The supply and demand curves simply don’t cross at the same place anymore.

    • Agree: fish
  148. @Shamu
    @Anon

    Well, the fact is that white women who were not somewhat upper crust WASP were always fine, until they assimilated to what the pushy Yankee schoolmarm types did and demanded.

    Steve wonders: "“We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture?"

    No, it is not new. I first dealt with it by the early 1990s, around academia. And it clearly came from two areas. The powerful one was whites, including Jews, whose assessments were that non-wealthy whites had no culture, meaning something that produced artifacts broadly understood too be positive and inspiring. Only the elite whites had that. That seems to me clearly to have been the nearly universal attitude from Brit WAP elites about everything: Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture. Reasons proffered for such an assessment varied: the Irish had never been a real nation in the Modern sense and so could not have culture; the Irish were too poor to develop culture.

    For such whites, the ancient and widespread folklore and condoning production of folk culture that would produce things like the Irish Renaissance literary world could be culture because it burbled up not from white masters but from whites who remained brutalized by white masters.

    But the whites who saw themeless as elite or aligned with elites also overwhelmingly delighted in anything black as an expression of racial/class brilliance that should be honored and promoted universally. That dichotomy is the basis for why academic during the reign years began multiplying
    Black Studies and overseeing the drying up of almost everything that dealt with study of anything white that was not the mainstream pattern of what every Wealthy Protestant of English ancestry assumed should be the whole truth.

    In other words, there were whites who mattered, and all other whites were trash. And the whites who mattered were determined to emphasize endlessly that the white trash was, well, trash by elevating all things black.

    Peoples who are not allowed to have their ancestral cultures are much easier to re-program as good servants of Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AndrewR, @Chrisnonymous, @Graham

    “Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture”

    Evidence? Examples? In my limited reading it seems that the British thinkers and chatterers were rather keen on Irish culture even before independence. Joyce satirises one such English hibernophile in the character of Haynes in the first chapter of Ulysses.

    It’s well known that the English loved Shaw, Wilde and Yeats, and still do.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Graham

    But did they think of those as Irish or English, considering the language used? I remember a book about Celts by an Irish writer who made a parallel: just as almost all the best writers in English literature were technically Irish (but forced by current politics to write in the Imperial language), so too many important Roman writers were Celts who had learned Latin. Or consider how "Japanese" carpentry is Korean. Or: does the work of Franz Kafka "belong" to the Jews, the Germans, or the Czechs? Poles were important as builders with red brick, but a German language textbook from the 1930s claimed that every building ever built in Poland above the level of a menhir was designed, erected, and maintained by Germans (plainly not true, and using the Partitions to hold up the claim).

  149. @AndrewR
    @Shamu

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    As for this article, it's illuminating in many ways. First of all is how the author clearly accepts the concept of transgenderism (or at least gender as non-binary) while rejecting the idea of transracialism. If this girl has the right to be accepted as a "they/them" then why can't she be "Anishinaabe"? Amusingly, the author unquestionably accepts the ethnic identity claim of the pseudonymous internet person without any evidence ("AdvancedSmite, who is also of Indigenous heritage").

    The line about the importance of "band names" is also amusing because it goes against the whole "native solidarity" thing and emphasizes that, while having some commonalities involving their relationships with the Anglos, the various Amerind tribes were/are indeed seperate groups, in contrast to the homogenizing and patronizing way they're talked about in this country.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Verymuchalive, @John Pepple

    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.

    Globohomo isn’t going to last because of all the immigrants they are letting in. Soon enough, those immigrants will take over, just as they will in the rest of the Western world, and then Ireland will be a Muslim theocracy for the next 30,000 years.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @John Pepple

    More likely is that Ireland will end up populated by a mixed bag of differently tinted consumers who aren't especially interested in Islam, Christianity or anything else that might get in the way of being a consumer. In other words it will be indistinguishable from Toronto, New Jersey, London or wherever.

    , @AndrewR
    @John Pepple

    Ridiculous comment on many levels. Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd. Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam. The future of Ireland is ethnic Pakistani trans girls selling feet pics on OnlyFans.

    Replies: @John Pepple

  150. @HammerJack
    @Cagey Beast

    https://i.ibb.co/wMZSPtq/9865fc829a1f0c7887916ef58674971ee9eecb21-14.jpg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

    It looks like Newsom (like Trudeau and Macron) has figured out how to thrive in the era of matriarchal managerialism: be the good looking guy who flatters the ladies, affirms their credentials, beats back their “impostor syndrome” and takes part in their latest scolding campaign.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Cagey Beast

    So you're saying that that entire class of goodfornothings look like somebody who should be shoved down a fire escape, however, in real life, they are goodfornothings who should be shoved down a fire escape?

    , @HammerJack
    @Cagey Beast

    Yep. Absolute catnip! However, we must concede this in their favor: no one has ever gone broke pandering to women, or blacks, or...

  151. @Graham
    @Shamu

    “Long after most of Ireland, for example, got independence, British academics and journalists all but denied that three really could be, in the Modern world, anything rightly defined as Irish culture”

    Evidence? Examples? In my limited reading it seems that the British thinkers and chatterers were rather keen on Irish culture even before independence. Joyce satirises one such English hibernophile in the character of Haynes in the first chapter of Ulysses.

    It’s well known that the English loved Shaw, Wilde and Yeats, and still do.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    But did they think of those as Irish or English, considering the language used? I remember a book about Celts by an Irish writer who made a parallel: just as almost all the best writers in English literature were technically Irish (but forced by current politics to write in the Imperial language), so too many important Roman writers were Celts who had learned Latin. Or consider how “Japanese” carpentry is Korean. Or: does the work of Franz Kafka “belong” to the Jews, the Germans, or the Czechs? Poles were important as builders with red brick, but a German language textbook from the 1930s claimed that every building ever built in Poland above the level of a menhir was designed, erected, and maintained by Germans (plainly not true, and using the Partitions to hold up the claim).

  152. @Cagey Beast
    @HammerJack

    It looks like Newsom (like Trudeau and Macron) has figured out how to thrive in the era of matriarchal managerialism: be the good looking guy who flatters the ladies, affirms their credentials, beats back their "impostor syndrome" and takes part in their latest scolding campaign.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

    So you’re saying that that entire class of goodfornothings look like somebody who should be shoved down a fire escape, however, in real life, they are goodfornothings who should be shoved down a fire escape?

  153. @Dr. X
    I'm an Indian outlaw
    Half Cherokee and Choctaw
    My baby, she's a Chippewa, haw
    She's one-of-a-kind


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqlR4IEl_04

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo

    I normally don’t give a shit about minorities claiming to be aggrieved, but man, that’s just insulting.

  154. @megabar
    @Shamu

    > [Yellowstone is] Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Twinkie

    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    Holy shit dude. You really opened my eyes. What’s next? You going to tell me The Jeffersons isn’t a documentary?

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    After several years of watching crap like Yellowstone and having run out of crap that is even barely tolerable to watch, I recently took a second look at Peaky Blinders which I previously couldn't watch a decade or so ago due to the series being too stupid.

    I guess my Overton Window has been reset.

    Peaky Blinders no longer seems so stupid and the wedged in sex scenes seem to be less repulsive than what I've become inured to this past decade.

  155. @Colin Wright
    '...“That’s not population growth,” they said. “It’s a major issue. The government needs to ask if you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe.'

    That suggests a major potential revenue stream for various minor tribes.

    That casino not really taking off? How about online tribal enrollments at $10,000.00 a head?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Not a bad idea. It’s like issuing more stock though. When the profits come in, they must be split among more Injuns. Or, you could make them probationary Indians or something …

  156. @Telimektar
    @Coemgen

    Well the UN says that only the Basques and Samis are indigenous to Europe, every races and ethnic group on earth can be classified as native to their country/homeland except Europeans on their own damn continent. Oh and don't try to call Basques Hispanics here in France or Spain like AndrewR said.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @Anon

    Try telling that to the Greeks or the Italians, I will stand back and catch the pieces. The entire Western civilization started in Greece and was refined by the Romans, as to the Basques and Samis i am struggling to find their contributions at all.

  157. @Foley
    @Anonymous

    What does “below the zone” mean?

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    It’s when the wide receiver cuts off his route early, before the defense can step up into the crease.

  158. OF COURSE she’s a member of The Tribe! Oh well, she has been exposed as a Pretendian, so now she’s a “fellow white”

  159. @kaganovitch
    @Thoughts

    I mentioned in a previous comment that I was at dinner a few months ago and people were crawling across the table with ‘I’m 1/4 jewish!’ Followed by a lot of ‘I’m jewish because I eat this and this bread on Sundays’ chatter

    It's your own fault. As the Talmud says (Sanhedrin 23a)
    "כך היו נקיי הדעת שבירושלים עושין ...ולא היו נכנסין בסעודה אלא אם כן יודעין מי מיסב עמהן"
    "This was the practice of the pure-minded /scrupulous of Jerusalem .... and they would not join a meal unless they knew who was reclining, (i.e., eating), with them."

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    One suspects that “their” posing as Jew
    Ain’t one/ten-twenty-fourth of a true.
    Kosher redskin: heap chance
    To gettem’ arts grants
    With a matzo ball stirred in the stew.

  160. @Cagey Beast
    @HammerJack

    It looks like Newsom (like Trudeau and Macron) has figured out how to thrive in the era of matriarchal managerialism: be the good looking guy who flatters the ladies, affirms their credentials, beats back their "impostor syndrome" and takes part in their latest scolding campaign.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

    Yep. Absolute catnip! However, we must concede this in their favor: no one has ever gone broke pandering to women, or blacks, or…

  161. @John Pepple
    @AndrewR


    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.
     
    Globohomo isn't going to last because of all the immigrants they are letting in. Soon enough, those immigrants will take over, just as they will in the rest of the Western world, and then Ireland will be a Muslim theocracy for the next 30,000 years.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @AndrewR

    More likely is that Ireland will end up populated by a mixed bag of differently tinted consumers who aren’t especially interested in Islam, Christianity or anything else that might get in the way of being a consumer. In other words it will be indistinguishable from Toronto, New Jersey, London or wherever.

  162. @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    To be fair, American Indians are ultimately of Asian descent , so her claim is not entirely scurrilous. East Asian nationalities are regularly interchangeable in the movies already, with the Chinese playing Koreans and vice versa etc etc.

    In my mind, it's akin to a Ukrainian (Scythian) or a light skinned and fair featured Dot Indian claiming to be French: yes, it might not match the modern borders on the map, but the DNA is mostly the same and came from the same place.

    Most racialists wouldn't think twice about such a situation because in their mind "white is white, the end". The only reason anyone cares about the Yellowstone actress is that American Indians are currently a faddish "oppressed minority" so people pay attention to it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @SFG

    We can’t tell the Asians apart…but they sure can. I remember the brouhaha a while back when they cast a Chinese actress in the geisha movie, annoying the Chinese (why is our actress cast as a Japanese prostitute?) and Japanese (why did they put a Chinese actress in something about our culture?) simultaneously.

    China and Japan have very low opinions of each other these days from what I understand. Everyone hates the neighbors.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @SFG

    If you can't tell Japs and Chinks apart, the US gov has put out a helpful guide:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5020743/Shocking-WWII-propaganda-pamphlet-spotting-Jap.html

    , @Nachum
    @SFG

    My mother used to teach ESL to immigrants in Queens. She reported that on sight, a Chinese, say, would be able to identify a Korean and so on. And of course they all had negative opinions about each other.

    I was raised with exactly zero political correctness. My father quotes his father, who I never knew, as warning, "Lincoln would say, 'Beware the yellow race'!" I don't know if Lincoln ever said it, but my grandfather did.

  163. @Nico
    @Jack D


    Maybe Britain had a culture but it sure didn’t have much of a cuisine, especially not what the common folk ate. There’s a reason why Indian food is now the most restaurant popular food in the UK.
     
    I’ll not question that quintessentially British recipes are terrible (though they’ve got some excellent local raw products), but Indian food, at least of the variety usually consumed in Britain, is hardly a marker of good taste and refinement.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It depends on what you are comparing it to. Compared to the traditional English prole diet, it is elevated. At least it has spices and vegetables in it. Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.


    What, 'mushy peas' are chopped liver by you?

    Replies: @Jack D

  164. @SFG
    @JR Ewing

    We can’t tell the Asians apart…but they sure can. I remember the brouhaha a while back when they cast a Chinese actress in the geisha movie, annoying the Chinese (why is our actress cast as a Japanese prostitute?) and Japanese (why did they put a Chinese actress in something about our culture?) simultaneously.

    China and Japan have very low opinions of each other these days from what I understand. Everyone hates the neighbors.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nachum

    If you can’t tell Japs and Chinks apart, the US gov has put out a helpful guide:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5020743/Shocking-WWII-propaganda-pamphlet-spotting-Jap.html

  165. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    I was one of the 9 million who identified as Indian in the last census. Prior to 2015 my family was unaware of our Indian heritage, but after taking a DNA test we discovered my father was almost 1% Native American and my DNA is 0.4% Indian.

    If all Americans who were genetically 1% Indian identified as Native American we would have more Indians than Blacks in the US. about 25 million white Americans are genetically 1% Indian and 50 million whites are at least 0.3% Indian. .While 99% of the Hispanics are over 1% Native American. The average Mexican is 40% Amerindian.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @interesting, @Coemgen, @Old Prude

    If the Great White Father in Washington is lying to you, and your land is being overrun by foreigners, you share the Native American cultural experience. Check the box!

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  166. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    As long as you stay away from politics, goodwhite Lefties like the faux Indian lady are not bad neighbors. It's not like living in the ghetto where Ms. Two Spirits's teenage keeds (she doesn't have any) are gonna carjack you at a stoplight or steal your catalytic converter. College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Replies: @Arclight, @Ron Mexico, @kaganovitch, @Colin Wright, @TelfoedJohn

    College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc.

    The niceness of some of these liberal towns is also the seed of their own decline. Look at Swedes, who used to think of themselves as a ‘moral superpower’, before the current immigrant-led rape epidemic. People tend to think that people are basically the same, so if you live among well-behaved nice people, you’ll think that incomers are just as nice. This feeling is only natural, since most people have been living fairly geographically static lives for millennia.

    Ideally, you’d have an element of steel in your veins, as well as being nice. Maybe the Swiss are like this, or the Japanese. Or the Finns. Some history of invasion, but still retaining your culture.

  167. @Jack D
    @Nico

    It depends on what you are comparing it to. Compared to the traditional English prole diet, it is elevated. At least it has spices and vegetables in it. Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.

    What, ‘mushy peas’ are chopped liver by you?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    I should have said "fresh vegetables". Mushy peas are made from dried peas (like split peas except not split). They get their vivid green color from tartrazine dye. Otherwise they would be the same olive drab color as split pea soup.

    Modern recipes that call for using fresh, frozen or canned peas are not authentic. Before modern shipping and food preservation, fresh green peas, like asparagus and strawberries, were something that you could get for a few weeks each year in the spring and the rest of the year they were completely unavailable. Want peas in January? Your choice is either dried peas or no peas. (And not much else either - on some old seder plates, for the spot for karpas they indicate that you should use a potato - a potato was as close as you were going to get to a fresh green vegetable in March in E. Europe)

    So you can consider mushy peas to be the cousin of Indian dal except that dal has spices, onion, chili, etc. that make it taste good and mushy peas are totally bland.

  168. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    I’m solidly with the Derb on this “We Are Doomed” point. And up at the front of the line is saying that you want a republican government of responsible productive men.

    But let’s be clear: Women did not create our current disaster. Women are followers not leaders. They are highly conforming. They do what “society”–“the culture”, media, their friends–tell them to do.

    Minoritarianism was not created by women. It was cooked up by Jews–mostly Jewish guys. Incessantly propagandized in universities and media, it–playing on some similar prejudices–pushed aside the old WASP–“Everyone should behave like a middle class WASP”–progressivism as elite ideology. And because–“Diversity is the health of the state”–minoritarian diktat is the next best thing to war, for boosting state size, power and reach, it has thoroughly grabbed a hold and entwined itself in our body politic and society.

    Women did not cause any of that. When I was a kid, the finger wagging, scolding, women did, was the same “church lady” “behave better!”–pro-social–finger wagging, that civilized women have always done.

    Women–particularly young impressionable, childless women–are basically the conforming, lemming like army that minoritarians/the super-state–holding the megaphone–have deployed against us. And worse, have managed to get women doing that instead of–delaying/minimizing–their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children.

    I’m with everyone here on the observation–and the irritation and frustration. It’s ugly irritating, depressing stuff. But we can’t just point fingers … because women are not the cause, not the enemy.

    What we really need are strategies and solutions. How to get our women back on our side?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You tell 'em, AD. It's not your good kind Christian women who are the problems. It's them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill "their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children".

    Oops, no they don't:

    TFR

    Rank/Country/Rate

    225 Singapore 1.16
    226 Korea, South 1.10
    227 Taiwan 1.08

    Replies: @Twinkie

  169. @Anon
    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.

    Replies: @Shamu, @Bill Jones, @kaganovitch, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Ed, @AnotherDad, @superfluous man

    Why single out “white” women? It’s not as if colored women are any better. It’s obvious they’re even worse than those cracker ass Karen bitches. Women in general are too foolish, too irrational, too anti-intellectual, too trusting and too easily fooled. They love to be told the lies they want to hear. What’s worse, a serial killer of women on death row or the pathetic sob sister who falls in love and marries one?

    A Republic that lets nappy headed twats hold public office, much less vote, is doomed. Even the loathsome Hillary Clinton, the ultimate screeching white harpy, would be better than Kamala Harris, Maxine Watters, Sheila Jackson Lee or any of their stupid, obnoxious, corrupt, chimp faced, fat assed kind. At least white women aren’t usually dumber than a dirt clod.

  170. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    White women being granted the vote and institutional power more generally has been the most consequential mistake in the history of western civilization.
     
    I'm solidly with the Derb on this "We Are Doomed" point. And up at the front of the line is saying that you want a republican government of responsible productive men.

    But let's be clear: Women did not create our current disaster. Women are followers not leaders. They are highly conforming. They do what "society"--"the culture", media, their friends--tell them to do.

    Minoritarianism was not created by women. It was cooked up by Jews--mostly Jewish guys. Incessantly propagandized in universities and media, it--playing on some similar prejudices--pushed aside the old WASP--"Everyone should behave like a middle class WASP"--progressivism as elite ideology. And because--"Diversity is the health of the state"--minoritarian diktat is the next best thing to war, for boosting state size, power and reach, it has thoroughly grabbed a hold and entwined itself in our body politic and society.

    Women did not cause any of that. When I was a kid, the finger wagging, scolding, women did, was the same "church lady" "behave better!"--pro-social--finger wagging, that civilized women have always done.

    Women--particularly young impressionable, childless women--are basically the conforming, lemming like army that minoritarians/the super-state--holding the megaphone--have deployed against us. And worse, have managed to get women doing that instead of--delaying/minimizing--their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children.

    I'm with everyone here on the observation--and the irritation and frustration. It's ugly irritating, depressing stuff. But we can't just point fingers ... because women are not the cause, not the enemy.

    What we really need are strategies and solutions. How to get our women back on our side?

    Replies: @Jack D

    You tell ’em, AD. It’s not your good kind Christian women who are the problems. It’s them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill “their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children”.

    Oops, no they don’t:

    TFR

    Rank/Country/Rate

    225 Singapore 1.16
    226 Korea, South 1.10
    227 Taiwan 1.08

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    It’s them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill “their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children”.
     
    South Korea and Singapore are some of the most Westernized countries in East Asia and have imbibed Western, specifically American, pop-culture hard. And who exactly are the lords and makers of American pop-culture, might I ask?

    Women eschewing child-birthing and -rearing and instead seeking higher education and careers is not exactly the traditional culture of East Asia, is it? South Korea, for example, had a per female fertility of 5 to 6 in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

    Replies: @Jack D

  171. @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Vegetables that are not just fried potatoes.


    What, 'mushy peas' are chopped liver by you?

    Replies: @Jack D

    I should have said “fresh vegetables”. Mushy peas are made from dried peas (like split peas except not split). They get their vivid green color from tartrazine dye. Otherwise they would be the same olive drab color as split pea soup.

    Modern recipes that call for using fresh, frozen or canned peas are not authentic. Before modern shipping and food preservation, fresh green peas, like asparagus and strawberries, were something that you could get for a few weeks each year in the spring and the rest of the year they were completely unavailable. Want peas in January? Your choice is either dried peas or no peas. (And not much else either – on some old seder plates, for the spot for karpas they indicate that you should use a potato – a potato was as close as you were going to get to a fresh green vegetable in March in E. Europe)

    So you can consider mushy peas to be the cousin of Indian dal except that dal has spices, onion, chili, etc. that make it taste good and mushy peas are totally bland.

  172. @SFG
    @JR Ewing

    We can’t tell the Asians apart…but they sure can. I remember the brouhaha a while back when they cast a Chinese actress in the geisha movie, annoying the Chinese (why is our actress cast as a Japanese prostitute?) and Japanese (why did they put a Chinese actress in something about our culture?) simultaneously.

    China and Japan have very low opinions of each other these days from what I understand. Everyone hates the neighbors.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nachum

    My mother used to teach ESL to immigrants in Queens. She reported that on sight, a Chinese, say, would be able to identify a Korean and so on. And of course they all had negative opinions about each other.

    I was raised with exactly zero political correctness. My father quotes his father, who I never knew, as warning, “Lincoln would say, ‘Beware the yellow race’!” I don’t know if Lincoln ever said it, but my grandfather did.

  173. @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Now, when it’s used for singular case, I can have a clearer conversation with a Mexican drywaller.
     
    Singular is not case, it's number.

    A poster on New Age Frauds named E.P. Grondine claims Indian ancestry, Shawnee I think, and sells "hand-crafted leather Bic lighter sheaths" at "pow-wows" which term I find offensive.

    I'm waiting for someone to come out with a hand-crafted leather toilet paper coozy.

    He also says that it's very common for American Indians to be over seven feet tall and blames his poor typing skills on diabetes.

    Sadly it appears there are no nudes, either of Mister Grondine or Miss LeClaire. This reader finds the white version hotter, but to each his own.

    It's always been my understanding that Basques are not Spanish, therefore not Hispanic. What about the Basques living in France? Biarritz is famously Basque country.

    Replies: @Iberian

    No.
    Basques are Hispanicus;
    In fact, the original Hispanicus;
    The ones that don’t became Latins/Romans during the Roman rule.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Iberian

    There were Celts in Spain too. (Hence, "Galicia.") Must have come after the Basques, though.

  174. @Barnard
    Speaking of Madison, Wisconsin and hate hoaxes, I cannot find any up to date information on that fair city's number one hate hoaxer, Althea Berstein. It is like her online history just stops in 2020 after the police released their report saying "it is obvious these are self inflicted, superficial burns, but we can't say that for political reasons." I wonder what she is up to now.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Anonymous

    I wonder what she is up to now.

    When you Google “Althea Bernstein” you can get an “update” or “now” the first of which shows some photos of her before and “after” her faked burns. Looks okay “now.” Smiling.

    All of the stories are two years old, most repeating the same “lack of evidence” conclusion.

    I didn’t go to the “Instagram” section, as my appetite for punishment only goes so far.

    Hate Hoaxers face no social sanction or public ridicule. I’m sure the Comrades have a special medal created just for them.

  175. @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    College towns like Madison are going to have some of the finer things in life like bookstores and coffee shops and wine and cheese shops and farmers markets, etc. Having to put up with the Black Lives Matter lawn signs is a small price to pay.

    Ten years back I would have agreed with you , but the totalitarian nature of Le Wokisme is changing that. Just an example, last month I was asked to leave, and never come back to, a local bookstore which I have frequented for around a decade. My sin was less than full-throated support for the Palestinian cause; a discussion I was dragged into kicking and screaming despite my stated reluctance to discuss politics in any shape manner or form. These petty commissars would be happy to send you to the Gulag , if they could. Farmer's markets are still ok, though, mostly because the growers are largely working people.

    Replies: @Muggles

    but the totalitarian nature of Le Wokisme is changing that. Just an example, last month I was asked to leave, and never come back to, a local bookstore which I have frequented for around a decade.
    These petty commissars would be happy to send you to the Gulag , if they could.

    Yes, all excellent observations and style.

    Petty tyrants are quite common and among the self entitled Woke Bullies, almost a badge of honor to be one.

    Free speech is no longer advocated or even tolerated. You have to be affirmatively “for” or “opposed” to the various Wokie bugaboos or special populations, not merely tolerant or indifferent.

    That is always a fascist “tell.” Always.

  176. @Twinkie
    @Shamu


    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.
     
    As I mentioned elsewhere on the blog, my wife and I own farms in Appalachia and the Midwest. And she has kin who ranch.

    Real farming/ranching is mostly grinding routine and a lot of praying for favorable weather (and high prices and low input costs). There isn't much drama to put on TV.

    Yellowstone is a "guilty pleasure" for my wife and me. Sure, it's a Hollywood product, but it sure beats gazillion cop, lawyer, medical dramas that valorize city life and urban values.

    The last recent movie I enjoyed was Taylor Sheridan-written Hell or High Water.

    https://youtu.be/JQoqsKoJVDw

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    +1 on Hell or High Water.

  177. @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    Sheridan's Wind River is a very mixed bag (It was the white man! The white man was doing the molestation on the rez! To his credit, he respects his audience enough to say this about the one case when it actually probably was a white man), but it has at least two interesting scenes: when the FBI chick meets the local troublemakers, and when the cops meet the security staff in the parking lot.

    Replies: @Muggles

    I haven’t seen this show. But my sister was for a long time a school counselor in a reservation adjacent school district.

    As such she encountered some rez kids at times and heard a lot about the life there.

    Incest is a big genetic problem there since for most of recent time their leadership opposed “outside” marriages even to other Indians. This particular somewhat smaller tribe is/was not well liked by other tribes.

    Plus, alcohol and male violence made this easier and evidently tolerated.

    This probably explains some of the IQ and social dysfunction. No White Eyes involved…

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Muggles

    The movie is about (evil) Iraq war vets who land stateside as security contractors for a[n evil] Wyoming petrochemical megacorp overlapping a rez, and one becomes the one white guy who attacks an Indian woman, and Jeremy Renner is there to remind you that Indians are truly great people just in case you forgot.

    Replies: @Jack D

  178. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @megabar


    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.
     
    Holy shit dude. You really opened my eyes. What's next? You going to tell me The Jeffersons isn't a documentary?

    Replies: @Coemgen

    After several years of watching crap like Yellowstone and having run out of crap that is even barely tolerable to watch, I recently took a second look at Peaky Blinders which I previously couldn’t watch a decade or so ago due to the series being too stupid.

    I guess my Overton Window has been reset.

    Peaky Blinders no longer seems so stupid and the wedged in sex scenes seem to be less repulsive than what I’ve become inured to this past decade.

  179. takes part in their latest scolding campaign.

    Yes, very good!

    First the scolding, then the bullying, finally the banishing, firing, expelling, de-platforming.

    There is no memory of their many sins. But no forgetting any of yours, real or imagined.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  180. @Muggles
    @J.Ross

    I haven't seen this show. But my sister was for a long time a school counselor in a reservation adjacent school district.

    As such she encountered some rez kids at times and heard a lot about the life there.

    Incest is a big genetic problem there since for most of recent time their leadership opposed "outside" marriages even to other Indians. This particular somewhat smaller tribe is/was not well liked by other tribes.

    Plus, alcohol and male violence made this easier and evidently tolerated.

    This probably explains some of the IQ and social dysfunction. No White Eyes involved...

    Replies: @J.Ross

    The movie is about (evil) Iraq war vets who land stateside as security contractors for a[n evil] Wyoming petrochemical megacorp overlapping a rez, and one becomes the one white guy who attacks an Indian woman, and Jeremy Renner is there to remind you that Indians are truly great people just in case you forgot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    I remember that movie and at the end they put up some BS title card about how in real life millions of Indian women just disappear and the police do nothing about it (the current set in Canada Three Pines has a sub plot about this also). The implication being that evil white dudes like in the movie are doing the disappearing.

    The evil white dudes in the movie are, BTW, like cartoon character evil and sadistic. Like these guys make the Japs in a WWII propaganda movie look like amateurs with the way they go around rapin' and murderin' people. If you made black characters who were that evil, they would burn down the movie theater. I thought that it was way over the top.

    The reality of course is that there is a lot of abuse of Indian women but it's mostly Indian men that are doing the abusing. But it's like the George Floyd thing. If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it. Sheet like that happen in the ghetto every day, ain't no big thang. Maybe a police blotter items on p.6 of Section 2 of the local paper - "A black male was found shot today in the 500 block of MLK Blvd. He was later identified as George Lloyd. No arrests have been made." But because a white cop supposedly dun it, the whole country had to burn.

    Replies: @adhjjkgkhgd, @AceDeuce, @Fhjjfdghg

  181. @J.Ross
    @Muggles

    The movie is about (evil) Iraq war vets who land stateside as security contractors for a[n evil] Wyoming petrochemical megacorp overlapping a rez, and one becomes the one white guy who attacks an Indian woman, and Jeremy Renner is there to remind you that Indians are truly great people just in case you forgot.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I remember that movie and at the end they put up some BS title card about how in real life millions of Indian women just disappear and the police do nothing about it (the current set in Canada Three Pines has a sub plot about this also). The implication being that evil white dudes like in the movie are doing the disappearing.

    The evil white dudes in the movie are, BTW, like cartoon character evil and sadistic. Like these guys make the Japs in a WWII propaganda movie look like amateurs with the way they go around rapin’ and murderin’ people. If you made black characters who were that evil, they would burn down the movie theater. I thought that it was way over the top.

    The reality of course is that there is a lot of abuse of Indian women but it’s mostly Indian men that are doing the abusing. But it’s like the George Floyd thing. If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it. Sheet like that happen in the ghetto every day, ain’t no big thang. Maybe a police blotter items on p.6 of Section 2 of the local paper – “A black male was found shot today in the 500 block of MLK Blvd. He was later identified as George Lloyd. No arrests have been made.” But because a white cop supposedly dun it, the whole country had to burn.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, David In TN
    • Replies: @adhjjkgkhgd
    @Jack D

    Maybe the movie you’re referring to is Wind River, a Weinstein distributed film starring Jeremy Renner. It’s a very good movie, but Woke (pre-floyd, pre-Covid, pre-#MeToo Woke, but Woke enough).

    It’s actually a very good movie, despite its questionable message. It’s PC in a lot of ways, but also realistically portrays a group of dirtbag redneck redskin criminals, with requisite sympathy for them as victims of history, of course. Jon Bernthal does his typically macho turn as an innocent murder suspect turned victim, and of course Jeremy Renner is the avenging hero, mitigating the PC denunciation of wypipo, but setting the movie up for ridicule for focusing on a white savior. Actually, I think POC and Woke whites like to have white saviors in movies; it gives them a chance to bitch about the white savior, and to ridicule the laughable notion that a white man can ever be good or heroic, their favor pastimes.

    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Jack D

    , @AceDeuce
    @Jack D


    If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it.
     
    Very true. I've been saying this same thing from the get-go.

    I'll give you another example. If a White comedian had made the joke about Will Smith's ugly wife, and Smith slapped him and cussed him out like he did in real life to colored boy wimp "Slappy" Rock, Smith would be a hero.
    , @Fhjjfdghg
    @Jack D

    OIC, you were specifically referring to Wind River

  182. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    I remember that movie and at the end they put up some BS title card about how in real life millions of Indian women just disappear and the police do nothing about it (the current set in Canada Three Pines has a sub plot about this also). The implication being that evil white dudes like in the movie are doing the disappearing.

    The evil white dudes in the movie are, BTW, like cartoon character evil and sadistic. Like these guys make the Japs in a WWII propaganda movie look like amateurs with the way they go around rapin' and murderin' people. If you made black characters who were that evil, they would burn down the movie theater. I thought that it was way over the top.

    The reality of course is that there is a lot of abuse of Indian women but it's mostly Indian men that are doing the abusing. But it's like the George Floyd thing. If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it. Sheet like that happen in the ghetto every day, ain't no big thang. Maybe a police blotter items on p.6 of Section 2 of the local paper - "A black male was found shot today in the 500 block of MLK Blvd. He was later identified as George Lloyd. No arrests have been made." But because a white cop supposedly dun it, the whole country had to burn.

    Replies: @adhjjkgkhgd, @AceDeuce, @Fhjjfdghg

    Maybe the movie you’re referring to is Wind River, a Weinstein distributed film starring Jeremy Renner. It’s a very good movie, but Woke (pre-floyd, pre-Covid, pre-#MeToo Woke, but Woke enough).

    It’s actually a very good movie, despite its questionable message. It’s PC in a lot of ways, but also realistically portrays a group of dirtbag redneck redskin criminals, with requisite sympathy for them as victims of history, of course. Jon Bernthal does his typically macho turn as an innocent murder suspect turned victim, and of course Jeremy Renner is the avenging hero, mitigating the PC denunciation of wypipo, but setting the movie up for ridicule for focusing on a white savior. Actually, I think POC and Woke whites like to have white saviors in movies; it gives them a chance to bitch about the white savior, and to ridicule the laughable notion that a white man can ever be good or heroic, their favor pastimes.

    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.

    • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @adhjjkgkhgd


    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.
     
    Ouch. Just fucking ouch.
    , @Jack D
    @adhjjkgkhgd

    Yes, Wind River. I was responding to J. Ross who mentioned it up above.

    I agree that it works as a movie. When all the gunfights and ultraviolence are going on, they are exciting to watch.

    I don't know much about Indians but they seemed to be portrayed more or less realistically but the white ex-military security guards were like totally over the top bad guys. It's an ancient movie trope where you have the hero and he's fighting a whole bunch of evil dudes and somehow he kills them all but doesn't get shot himself, but usually the evil dudes are Japs or Injuns or Arabs, not American military veterans.

  183. @megabar
    @Shamu

    > [Yellowstone is] Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Exactly correct. The Duttons are murderous, selfish, and dishonest. There have few redeeming qualities about them other then that the Dad likes and wants to preserve nature. The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Twinkie

    The show tells us they are the good guys, however, so people will accept it, and in a small way, start to believe that their behavior is the behavior of good people.

    I don’t think that’s the message of the show. At least a part of the message seems to me to be that, in order to amass that kind of property (wealth) and then protect it, it takes a lot of skullduggery and derring-do, good or bad (and often bad). It’s pretty clear in the show that the Duttons resort to all sorts of extra-judicial methods, including killings, as well as inside politicking.

    To the extent that John Dutton is “better” than the developers and corporate raiders who covet his land, it is that he believes in family, legacy, tradition, and continuity as well as the appreciation for “a quiet way of life,” for lack of a better term, rather than the pursuit of profit-maximization and self-aggrandizement. Indeed, the corporate types are confused by his motives – in their view, he can simply sell the land for billions and have Midas-like wealth that can underwrite any hobby ranch elsewhere (Oklahoma was cited) rather than fight tooth and nail and risk losing it all.

  184. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You tell 'em, AD. It's not your good kind Christian women who are the problems. It's them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill "their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children".

    Oops, no they don't:

    TFR

    Rank/Country/Rate

    225 Singapore 1.16
    226 Korea, South 1.10
    227 Taiwan 1.08

    Replies: @Twinkie

    It’s them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill “their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children”.

    South Korea and Singapore are some of the most Westernized countries in East Asia and have imbibed Western, specifically American, pop-culture hard. And who exactly are the lords and makers of American pop-culture, might I ask?

    Women eschewing child-birthing and -rearing and instead seeking higher education and careers is not exactly the traditional culture of East Asia, is it? South Korea, for example, had a per female fertility of 5 to 6 in the late 1950’s and early 1960’s.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    And is a Joo not heavier than a duck, might I ask?

    https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g?t=86

    Replies: @Twinkie

  185. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    It’s them Joos. If you look at places like say S. Korea or Singapore where there are no Joos, women stay home and fulfill “their natural biological role of bearing/nursing/raising children”.
     
    South Korea and Singapore are some of the most Westernized countries in East Asia and have imbibed Western, specifically American, pop-culture hard. And who exactly are the lords and makers of American pop-culture, might I ask?

    Women eschewing child-birthing and -rearing and instead seeking higher education and careers is not exactly the traditional culture of East Asia, is it? South Korea, for example, had a per female fertility of 5 to 6 in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

    Replies: @Jack D

    And is a Joo not heavier than a duck, might I ask?

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D

    At least try to acknowledge, if you can’t answer, the substance of the discourse.

    I’m not someone who blames the Jews for all the ills of the world, but you clearly are someone who doesn’t think that Jews are responsible for anything.

    An honest, self-aware person would acknowledge that, just as the Jewish contributions to science, arts, etc. in the West rose dramatically since the emancipation in Europe and later with the rise of America, so have their negative influences, particularly in the realms of entertainment (and thus pop culture) and global finance, for example, first in the West, and then the rest of the world via American power and dominance.

    Try as you might portray otherwise, Jews aren’t just ordinary white people with a little higher IQ. Good and bad, their influence on the global culture has been extremely outsized.

    Replies: @Jack D

  186. “We’re craving culture here.” — Is this a thing now, where they use “culture” to mean nonwhite culture on the grounds that whites don’t have any culture? Fifty years ago, “We’re craving culture here” meant there was a demand for more opera and art galleries: i.e., European high culture. But I don’t hear that much anymore.

    It seems that most people lack consciousness of their own culture — it is not something they are self-aware enough to notice. I remember back in the early days of massive immigration to Sweden, when someone pro-immigration said (not the exact quote), “immigrants will give us a culture worth having”.

    Part of the lack of self-awareness is due to universities. Humanities courses have dropped the traditional exploration of European higher culture. Instead, they jeer at its lack of wokeness and insert lame non-Europeans into the canon. Has anyone noticed that most French departments now focus their literature courses (and faculty research) on authors from Francophone Africa?

    We are the greatest civilization ever created by humans. The people and ideas that created this civilization should be acknowledged, understood, and celebrated. That we have cast them off and are wandering adrift does not bode well for the future.

  187. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    And is a Joo not heavier than a duck, might I ask?

    https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g?t=86

    Replies: @Twinkie

    At least try to acknowledge, if you can’t answer, the substance of the discourse.

    I’m not someone who blames the Jews for all the ills of the world, but you clearly are someone who doesn’t think that Jews are responsible for anything.

    An honest, self-aware person would acknowledge that, just as the Jewish contributions to science, arts, etc. in the West rose dramatically since the emancipation in Europe and later with the rise of America, so have their negative influences, particularly in the realms of entertainment (and thus pop culture) and global finance, for example, first in the West, and then the rest of the world via American power and dominance.

    Try as you might portray otherwise, Jews aren’t just ordinary white people with a little higher IQ. Good and bad, their influence on the global culture has been extremely outsized.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    To say that it's the Jews' fault that women in S. Korea are not having babies is too much of a triple bank shot for me.

    The rise of the Jews (which I think BTW is just about a spent force) was a unique combination of circumstances having to do with conditions of modernity and the Enlightenment. For hundreds of years, the Ashkenazi Jews lived in their ghettos and debated the Talmud with each other and had zero influence on the broader world. But it just so happened that the Jews had, in their little hothouses, conducted an accidental eugenic experiment and once they were let out, their breed was well suited to thrive in conditions of modernity, where the advantages of IQ became much more valuable than in the past.

    But, this doesn't mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity (although they certainly make a disproportionate contribution). This is like "wet streets cause rain." Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews). This leaves the vast bulk (75 or 80%) that Jews have nothing to do with. I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider "bad stuff" like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn't stop (it doesn't even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn't make all "bad stuff" go away either.

    But I don't hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Twinkie

  188. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    I remember that movie and at the end they put up some BS title card about how in real life millions of Indian women just disappear and the police do nothing about it (the current set in Canada Three Pines has a sub plot about this also). The implication being that evil white dudes like in the movie are doing the disappearing.

    The evil white dudes in the movie are, BTW, like cartoon character evil and sadistic. Like these guys make the Japs in a WWII propaganda movie look like amateurs with the way they go around rapin' and murderin' people. If you made black characters who were that evil, they would burn down the movie theater. I thought that it was way over the top.

    The reality of course is that there is a lot of abuse of Indian women but it's mostly Indian men that are doing the abusing. But it's like the George Floyd thing. If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it. Sheet like that happen in the ghetto every day, ain't no big thang. Maybe a police blotter items on p.6 of Section 2 of the local paper - "A black male was found shot today in the 500 block of MLK Blvd. He was later identified as George Lloyd. No arrests have been made." But because a white cop supposedly dun it, the whole country had to burn.

    Replies: @adhjjkgkhgd, @AceDeuce, @Fhjjfdghg

    If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it.

    Very true. I’ve been saying this same thing from the get-go.

    I’ll give you another example. If a White comedian had made the joke about Will Smith’s ugly wife, and Smith slapped him and cussed him out like he did in real life to colored boy wimp “Slappy” Rock, Smith would be a hero.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  189. @Iberian
    @Anonymous

    No.
    Basques are Hispanicus;
    In fact, the original Hispanicus;
    The ones that don’t became Latins/Romans during the Roman rule.

    Replies: @Nachum

    There were Celts in Spain too. (Hence, “Galicia.”) Must have come after the Basques, though.

  190. @John Pepple
    @AndrewR


    Ireland is a tragic case. In less than a century they went from a British colony to a Catholic theocracy to the epitome of globohomo.
     
    Globohomo isn't going to last because of all the immigrants they are letting in. Soon enough, those immigrants will take over, just as they will in the rest of the Western world, and then Ireland will be a Muslim theocracy for the next 30,000 years.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @AndrewR

    Ridiculous comment on many levels. Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd. Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam. The future of Ireland is ethnic Pakistani trans girls selling feet pics on OnlyFans.

    • Replies: @John Pepple
    @AndrewR

    Ridiculous response on many levels. Here is a more realistic look at the West’s future:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18928/how-civilizations-will-be-decided


    Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam.

     

    It’s the exact opposite. For some reason, liberals and leftists have a relationship with Islam that resembles that of battered wives to their husbands. No matter how much Muslims “beat” them, they never abandon them. The murder of thousands of leftists in Iran when Muslims took over back in 1979 doesn’t bother them at all. The trafficking of girls in Rotherham and other English towns for so many years didn’t promote any soul-searching or changes. If a lecturer at a university in Minnesota shows a Muslim painting of Muhammad and a couple students are upset, the administration fires the guy because of the “harm” he caused. They could have told those students to move to the Muslim world if they are upset, but that we in the West were not going to put up with their whining. But no. The administration fired the guy. The harm this causes those of us who like the West is not taken into account.

    The point is that our stupid elites keep bringing in Muslims, who have the will and the desire to conquer us (and will soon enough have the numbers), while these same elites have no will to prevent them from doing so. Macron is the only elite who seems to understand what is happening, but it sounds like what he is doing is too little, too late.

    Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd.

     

    Naturally, I said 30,000 for effect, but my points are that (1) it took 800 years to reconquer Spain and over a century to reconquer Hungary, so if the West goes Muslim, it is likely to stay Muslim for a long time; and (2) Islam prohibits converting away, so people are too afraid to do so. Once something becomes Muslim, it pretty much stays Muslim.

    The West is toast.

    Replies: @Jack D

  191. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    Can I do two LOLs in the same comment section?

    Damn the torpedoes, I’m livin’ like a refugee (in my own country.)

  192. @slumber_j
    @Redneck farmer


    Native American is a way to get diversity points without lowering oneself to Negro Status.
     
    Well, sometimes it's just for money. In his "Niagara," Mark Twain has a bunch of Irish hucksters at the Falls counterfeiting Indian artifacts--with the big difference that they vehemently deny being Indians when confronted:

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/niagara.html

    The noble Red Man has always been a friend and darling of mine. I love to read about him in tales and legends and romances. I love to read of his inspired sagacity, and his love of the wild free life of mountain and forest, and his general nobility of character, and his stately metaphorical manner of speech, and his chivalrous love for the dusky maiden, and the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. Especially the picturesque pomp of his dress and accoutrements. When I found the shops at Niagara Falls full of dainty Indian bead- work, and stunning moccasins, and equally stunning toy figures representing human beings who carried their weapons in holes bored through their arms and bodies, and had feet shaped like a pie, I was filled with emotion. I knew that now, at last, I was going to come face to face with the noble Red Man.

    A lady clerk in a shop told me, indeed, that all her grand array of curiosities were made by the Indians, and that they were plenty about the Falls, and that they were friendly, and it would not be dangerous to speak to them. And sure enough, as I approached the bridge leading over to Luna Island, I came upon a noble Son of the Forest sitting under a tree, diligently at work on a bead reticule. He wore a slouch hat and brogans, and had a short black pipe in his mouth. Thus does the baneful contact with our effeminate civilization dilute the picturesque pomp which is so natural to the Indian when far removed from us in his native haunts. I addressed the relic as follows:

    "Is the Wawhoo-Wang-Wang of the Whack-a- Whack happy? Does the great Speckled Thunder sigh for the warpath, or is his heart contented with dreaming of the dusky maiden, the Pride of the Forest? Does the mighty Sachem yearn to drink the blood of his enemies, or is he satisfied to make bead reticules for the pappooses of the paleface? Speak, sublime relic of bygone grandeur--venerable ruin, speak!'

    The relic said:

    An' is it mesilf, Dennis Hooligan, that ye'd be takin' for a dirty Injin, ye drawlin', lanternjawed, spider-legged divil! By the piper that played be- fore Moses, I'll ate ye!

    I went away from there.

    By and by, in the neighborhood of the Terrapin Tower, I came upon a gentle daughter of the aborigines in fringed and beaded buckskin moccasins and leggins, seated on a bench with her pretty wares about her. She had just carved out a wooden chief that had a strong family resemblance to a clothes- pin, and was now boring a hole through his abdomen to put his bow through. I hesitated a moment, and then addressed her:

    Is the heart of the forest maiden heavy? Is the Laughing Tadpole lonely? Does she mourn over the extinguished council-fires of her race, and the vanished glory of her ancestors? Or does her sad spirit wander afar toward the hunting-grounds whither her brave Gobbler-of-the-Lightnings is gone? Why is my daughter silent? Has she aught against the paleface stranger?

    The maiden said:

    Faix, an' is it Biddy Malone ye dare to be callin' names? Lave this, or I'll shy your lean carcass over the cataract, ye sniveling blaggard!

    I adjourned from there also.

    Replies: @Pierre de Craon, @duncsbaby

    Shit goddamn, I already used my two LOLs for this thread.

  193. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    I remember that movie and at the end they put up some BS title card about how in real life millions of Indian women just disappear and the police do nothing about it (the current set in Canada Three Pines has a sub plot about this also). The implication being that evil white dudes like in the movie are doing the disappearing.

    The evil white dudes in the movie are, BTW, like cartoon character evil and sadistic. Like these guys make the Japs in a WWII propaganda movie look like amateurs with the way they go around rapin' and murderin' people. If you made black characters who were that evil, they would burn down the movie theater. I thought that it was way over the top.

    The reality of course is that there is a lot of abuse of Indian women but it's mostly Indian men that are doing the abusing. But it's like the George Floyd thing. If a brotha had gotten mad at George Floyd for trying to buy drugs off of him with a counterfeit $20 and popped a cap in his ass, you would never have heard about it. Sheet like that happen in the ghetto every day, ain't no big thang. Maybe a police blotter items on p.6 of Section 2 of the local paper - "A black male was found shot today in the 500 block of MLK Blvd. He was later identified as George Lloyd. No arrests have been made." But because a white cop supposedly dun it, the whole country had to burn.

    Replies: @adhjjkgkhgd, @AceDeuce, @Fhjjfdghg

    OIC, you were specifically referring to Wind River

  194. @adhjjkgkhgd
    @Jack D

    Maybe the movie you’re referring to is Wind River, a Weinstein distributed film starring Jeremy Renner. It’s a very good movie, but Woke (pre-floyd, pre-Covid, pre-#MeToo Woke, but Woke enough).

    It’s actually a very good movie, despite its questionable message. It’s PC in a lot of ways, but also realistically portrays a group of dirtbag redneck redskin criminals, with requisite sympathy for them as victims of history, of course. Jon Bernthal does his typically macho turn as an innocent murder suspect turned victim, and of course Jeremy Renner is the avenging hero, mitigating the PC denunciation of wypipo, but setting the movie up for ridicule for focusing on a white savior. Actually, I think POC and Woke whites like to have white saviors in movies; it gives them a chance to bitch about the white savior, and to ridicule the laughable notion that a white man can ever be good or heroic, their favor pastimes.

    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Jack D

    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.

    Ouch. Just fucking ouch.

  195. @AndrewR
    @John Pepple

    Ridiculous comment on many levels. Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd. Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam. The future of Ireland is ethnic Pakistani trans girls selling feet pics on OnlyFans.

    Replies: @John Pepple

    Ridiculous response on many levels. Here is a more realistic look at the West’s future:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18928/how-civilizations-will-be-decided

    Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam.

    It’s the exact opposite. For some reason, liberals and leftists have a relationship with Islam that resembles that of battered wives to their husbands. No matter how much Muslims “beat” them, they never abandon them. The murder of thousands of leftists in Iran when Muslims took over back in 1979 doesn’t bother them at all. The trafficking of girls in Rotherham and other English towns for so many years didn’t promote any soul-searching or changes. If a lecturer at a university in Minnesota shows a Muslim painting of Muhammad and a couple students are upset, the administration fires the guy because of the “harm” he caused. They could have told those students to move to the Muslim world if they are upset, but that we in the West were not going to put up with their whining. But no. The administration fired the guy. The harm this causes those of us who like the West is not taken into account.

    The point is that our stupid elites keep bringing in Muslims, who have the will and the desire to conquer us (and will soon enough have the numbers), while these same elites have no will to prevent them from doing so. Macron is the only elite who seems to understand what is happening, but it sounds like what he is doing is too little, too late.

    Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd.

    Naturally, I said 30,000 for effect, but my points are that (1) it took 800 years to reconquer Spain and over a century to reconquer Hungary, so if the West goes Muslim, it is likely to stay Muslim for a long time; and (2) Islam prohibits converting away, so people are too afraid to do so. Once something becomes Muslim, it pretty much stays Muslim.

    The West is toast.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @John Pepple

    Things are not going that great for the theocracy in Iran. They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.

    A future Muslim majority Dublin (if that ever happens) is not going to look like Kabul with women in chadors and no alcohol. It's going to look like Sarajevo or Tirana where it's hardly different than any other European city. The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don't have that in Ireland.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @John Pepple

  196. @adhjjkgkhgd
    @Jack D

    Maybe the movie you’re referring to is Wind River, a Weinstein distributed film starring Jeremy Renner. It’s a very good movie, but Woke (pre-floyd, pre-Covid, pre-#MeToo Woke, but Woke enough).

    It’s actually a very good movie, despite its questionable message. It’s PC in a lot of ways, but also realistically portrays a group of dirtbag redneck redskin criminals, with requisite sympathy for them as victims of history, of course. Jon Bernthal does his typically macho turn as an innocent murder suspect turned victim, and of course Jeremy Renner is the avenging hero, mitigating the PC denunciation of wypipo, but setting the movie up for ridicule for focusing on a white savior. Actually, I think POC and Woke whites like to have white saviors in movies; it gives them a chance to bitch about the white savior, and to ridicule the laughable notion that a white man can ever be good or heroic, their favor pastimes.

    Renner is now doing research for a remake of Killdozer. The man delves deep into each role.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Jack D

    Yes, Wind River. I was responding to J. Ross who mentioned it up above.

    I agree that it works as a movie. When all the gunfights and ultraviolence are going on, they are exciting to watch.

    I don’t know much about Indians but they seemed to be portrayed more or less realistically but the white ex-military security guards were like totally over the top bad guys. It’s an ancient movie trope where you have the hero and he’s fighting a whole bunch of evil dudes and somehow he kills them all but doesn’t get shot himself, but usually the evil dudes are Japs or Injuns or Arabs, not American military veterans.

  197. @Twinkie
    @Jack D

    At least try to acknowledge, if you can’t answer, the substance of the discourse.

    I’m not someone who blames the Jews for all the ills of the world, but you clearly are someone who doesn’t think that Jews are responsible for anything.

    An honest, self-aware person would acknowledge that, just as the Jewish contributions to science, arts, etc. in the West rose dramatically since the emancipation in Europe and later with the rise of America, so have their negative influences, particularly in the realms of entertainment (and thus pop culture) and global finance, for example, first in the West, and then the rest of the world via American power and dominance.

    Try as you might portray otherwise, Jews aren’t just ordinary white people with a little higher IQ. Good and bad, their influence on the global culture has been extremely outsized.

    Replies: @Jack D

    To say that it’s the Jews’ fault that women in S. Korea are not having babies is too much of a triple bank shot for me.

    The rise of the Jews (which I think BTW is just about a spent force) was a unique combination of circumstances having to do with conditions of modernity and the Enlightenment. For hundreds of years, the Ashkenazi Jews lived in their ghettos and debated the Talmud with each other and had zero influence on the broader world. But it just so happened that the Jews had, in their little hothouses, conducted an accidental eugenic experiment and once they were let out, their breed was well suited to thrive in conditions of modernity, where the advantages of IQ became much more valuable than in the past.

    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity (although they certainly make a disproportionate contribution). This is like “wet streets cause rain.” Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews). This leaves the vast bulk (75 or 80%) that Jews have nothing to do with. I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Jack D

    It's likely because my misogyny and Toryism are overpowering my anti-Semitism but I have to agree with Jack D here. People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that's gone wrong in our countries.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity
     
    Of course not. Modernity was born of the Christian Western Europe, to which Jews contributed virtually nothing prior to the Jewish Emancipation. But thanks for the strawman.

    Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews).
     
    It already has crashed. Some of it has to do with Jewish intermarriage, no doubt, but even "purebred" Jews aren't what they used to be. Perhaps its dysgenics among the Ashkenazim. Or perhaps it's the collapse in Jewish work ethic/interests in hard sciences. The signs were already there thirty years or so ago when I was working on my Ph.D. Many of the older professors - again in the hard sciences - were Jewish, but their doctoral students were often East Asians (foreign students and Americans).

    I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.
     
    Unfortunately, Jewish contributions - positive or negative - aren't proportional, it seems to me. Because of their penchant for the verbal and, not unrelatedly, for the mercenary and the intrigue, Jewish intellectual contribution to the hard sciences has collapsed, but their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law - in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today - has increased... and not for the better for the society at large.

    Jews are hardly alone in this - they obviously have many fellow-travelers (people love to follow and imitate the winners), but it's pretty clear that much of the culturally, socially, and institutionally coarse and destructive tendencies of our society is highly Jewish-inflected and -led. And I think many "normie" Americans are starting to sense that and are starting to question if not rebel, hence the panicked cries of "increasing anti-Semitism" in the media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/us-jews-antisemitism-emigration/

    ‘When was it too late?’ Some U.S. Jews wonder about their place in America.

    Joe Py had been chipping away at a project he dreaded. In the past few years, he sold his valuable paperweight collection, got certified copies of his birth and marriage documents, and researched what it would be like to be Jewish in other countries. Where there weren’t Confederate flags down the street, articles about armed Christian militant groups in the local paper, and megawatt celebrities spouting explicit antisemitism. As the midterms approached, bringing more instances of terrifying anti-Jewish rhetoric, he and his wife had their house staged to sell.

    “Our question was, in the 1930s, when did people know it was time? When was it too late?” said the 66-year-old Maine doctor.

    While their Jewish friends and people at their synagogue weren’t considering moving the way they were, no one dismissed their preparations as ridiculous, he said. Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed. The defeat of several prominent election deniers and Christian nationalists in the November midterms calmed Py and his wife enough to put a potential move on hold, but the questions about Jews’ place in America didn’t go away.

    “This is totally new psychological-emotional territory,” he said.

    The year 2022 began and is ending with some of the highest-recorded modern levels of antisemitic actions and Jewish worry. An atmosphere that experts say began as a shock with the 2016 election of Donald Trump and his comments against religious and racial minorities has matured, taken root and for some led to serious consideration or action toward emigrating. Warm pride in Jewish parts of the national zeitgeist such as “Seinfeld” has given way to cold calculations about what if.
     
    It's the same reason you desperately play the "fellow whites" card even as you can't help yourself and evince contempt for the non-Jews on occasion.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @HammerJack

  198. @John Pepple
    @AndrewR

    Ridiculous response on many levels. Here is a more realistic look at the West’s future:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18928/how-civilizations-will-be-decided


    Also liberalism and modernity are highly corrosive to Islam.

     

    It’s the exact opposite. For some reason, liberals and leftists have a relationship with Islam that resembles that of battered wives to their husbands. No matter how much Muslims “beat” them, they never abandon them. The murder of thousands of leftists in Iran when Muslims took over back in 1979 doesn’t bother them at all. The trafficking of girls in Rotherham and other English towns for so many years didn’t promote any soul-searching or changes. If a lecturer at a university in Minnesota shows a Muslim painting of Muhammad and a couple students are upset, the administration fires the guy because of the “harm” he caused. They could have told those students to move to the Muslim world if they are upset, but that we in the West were not going to put up with their whining. But no. The administration fired the guy. The harm this causes those of us who like the West is not taken into account.

    The point is that our stupid elites keep bringing in Muslims, who have the will and the desire to conquer us (and will soon enough have the numbers), while these same elites have no will to prevent them from doing so. Macron is the only elite who seems to understand what is happening, but it sounds like what he is doing is too little, too late.

    Islam has barely existed for 5% of that time period so such a prediction is beyond absurd.

     

    Naturally, I said 30,000 for effect, but my points are that (1) it took 800 years to reconquer Spain and over a century to reconquer Hungary, so if the West goes Muslim, it is likely to stay Muslim for a long time; and (2) Islam prohibits converting away, so people are too afraid to do so. Once something becomes Muslim, it pretty much stays Muslim.

    The West is toast.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Things are not going that great for the theocracy in Iran. They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.

    A future Muslim majority Dublin (if that ever happens) is not going to look like Kabul with women in chadors and no alcohol. It’s going to look like Sarajevo or Tirana where it’s hardly different than any other European city. The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don’t have that in Ireland.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.
     
    I can tell you've never worked or lived in Muslim countries (let alone fought in them), because you parrot the standard Western liberal bullshit about Muslim societies. Take this drivel for example:

    The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don’t have that in Ireland.
     
    What you don't seem to understand is that it's not the "backward peasant population" in Muslim countries that seek and support religious purity and repression. The countryside in most Muslim countries, indeed, is and has been backward, but also has been much more "syncretic" and ancient-tribal in religious orientation. In Sunni countries, that meant that the rural population was much more Sufi and "unorthodox," for lack of a better term (perhaps not exactly tolerant, but not purist either).

    The religiously purist movements in Muslim countries - e.g. Salafism - are largely modern phenomena that are also reactions to Western dominance. As such, the mainstay of support for them in quite a few Muslim countries is the newly emergent technocratic middle class, not the illiterate peasants or peasants-turned-urban proletariat. But the paradigm of "country bumpkins = religiously intolerant anti-modernists" surely does appeal to Western leftists who hate Christianity in their own countries.

    Moreover, several Muslim countries have experienced a very rapid, dramatic growth in urbanization, which has resulted in severe cultural dislocation - fraying of organic community ties that are far stronger and persistent in rural areas - so the yearning for and salience of a religious identity has increased among the urban middle class populations: https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D8V69RR7

    middle class parents' classed aspirations and anxieties regarding education, wealth, morality, and corruption coalesce to create ready consumers for a particular type of Islamic school: one that provides a longer school day, strong academics, and a robust religious curriculum focused on Islamic morals and values.
     
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/trans-trans-regional-and-national-studies-of-southeast-asia/article/abs/sekolah-islam-islamic-schools-as-symbols-of-indonesias-urban-muslim-identity/8F6A0FB83E759289A46F8F1CC6B5C713

    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.
     

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    , @John Pepple
    @Jack D

    The developments you speak of in the Muslim world are, to use Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s expression, fragile. I’ve seen photos of women in Afghanistan in the 1960s wearing miniskirts, yet look at them now.

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing. As for the current regime’s troubles, there are plenty of people here at Unz Review who think they are the result not of a grass roots uprising, but of Israeli manipulation. But even if the current regime gets overthrown, we don’t really know what will replace it. Back in 1979, I just assumed the Shah’s regime would be replaced by a secular and socialist entity, but after seeing what actually happened, I would not venture to predict what would emerge today.

    As for a possible Muslim majority in Dublin, keep in mind first that Islam is not an ethnicity but a religion and that people can convert to it at any time. (As I said before, converting away is very difficult.) So, the numbers of immigrants and their descendants are the bare minimum. Some non-Muslims will convert because they see Islam winning and they want to be with a winner. Some will convert (especially women) because it is more convenient for them to do so. Some will convert because they know it will stop all the theft that happens from Muslims in their neighborhoods. Some will convert because all their friends, relatives, and neighbors have done so. And some will convert because they are sick of the direction the West is moving.

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Cato, @Nachum

  199. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    To say that it's the Jews' fault that women in S. Korea are not having babies is too much of a triple bank shot for me.

    The rise of the Jews (which I think BTW is just about a spent force) was a unique combination of circumstances having to do with conditions of modernity and the Enlightenment. For hundreds of years, the Ashkenazi Jews lived in their ghettos and debated the Talmud with each other and had zero influence on the broader world. But it just so happened that the Jews had, in their little hothouses, conducted an accidental eugenic experiment and once they were let out, their breed was well suited to thrive in conditions of modernity, where the advantages of IQ became much more valuable than in the past.

    But, this doesn't mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity (although they certainly make a disproportionate contribution). This is like "wet streets cause rain." Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews). This leaves the vast bulk (75 or 80%) that Jews have nothing to do with. I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider "bad stuff" like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn't stop (it doesn't even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn't make all "bad stuff" go away either.

    But I don't hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Twinkie

    It’s likely because my misogyny and Toryism are overpowering my anti-Semitism but I have to agree with Jack D here. People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that’s gone wrong in our countries.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Cagey Beast

    In NYC there used to be a Yiddish radio station. Its call sign was WEVD. EVD was named in memory of the then recently deceased Eugene V. Debs, whom the Jewish socialist founders of the station greatly admired. Needless to say, Debs, perhaps the greatest American socialist (before the whole Democrat Party became socialist), was not Jewish.

    , @Twinkie
    @Cagey Beast


    People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that’s gone wrong in our countries.
     
    "Jews are to blame for everything" strawman is just a device to shut down an honest evaluation of the Jewish elite leadership role in what ails today's West.

    No, Jews aren't to blame for everything. And their contributions are both positive and negative. But the crudest and simplest way I would put it is that they are force-multipliers (or "cadres" in commie-lingo) of the ideological and social trends that are weakening today's West. But if you say that in public, you are a dirty anti-Semite who should be exiled from polite company and pauperized, pour encourager les autres.
  200. @Cagey Beast
    @Jack D

    It's likely because my misogyny and Toryism are overpowering my anti-Semitism but I have to agree with Jack D here. People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that's gone wrong in our countries.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

    In NYC there used to be a Yiddish radio station. Its call sign was WEVD. EVD was named in memory of the then recently deceased Eugene V. Debs, whom the Jewish socialist founders of the station greatly admired. Needless to say, Debs, perhaps the greatest American socialist (before the whole Democrat Party became socialist), was not Jewish.

  201. @HammerJack
    @Cagey Beast

    https://i.ibb.co/wMZSPtq/9865fc829a1f0c7887916ef58674971ee9eecb21-14.jpg

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Colin Wright

    So why hasn’t he resigned? Is he a woman?

  202. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    To say that it's the Jews' fault that women in S. Korea are not having babies is too much of a triple bank shot for me.

    The rise of the Jews (which I think BTW is just about a spent force) was a unique combination of circumstances having to do with conditions of modernity and the Enlightenment. For hundreds of years, the Ashkenazi Jews lived in their ghettos and debated the Talmud with each other and had zero influence on the broader world. But it just so happened that the Jews had, in their little hothouses, conducted an accidental eugenic experiment and once they were let out, their breed was well suited to thrive in conditions of modernity, where the advantages of IQ became much more valuable than in the past.

    But, this doesn't mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity (although they certainly make a disproportionate contribution). This is like "wet streets cause rain." Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews). This leaves the vast bulk (75 or 80%) that Jews have nothing to do with. I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider "bad stuff" like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn't stop (it doesn't even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn't make all "bad stuff" go away either.

    But I don't hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Twinkie

    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity

    Of course not. Modernity was born of the Christian Western Europe, to which Jews contributed virtually nothing prior to the Jewish Emancipation. But thanks for the strawman.

    Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews).

    It already has crashed. Some of it has to do with Jewish intermarriage, no doubt, but even “purebred” Jews aren’t what they used to be. Perhaps its dysgenics among the Ashkenazim. Or perhaps it’s the collapse in Jewish work ethic/interests in hard sciences. The signs were already there thirty years or so ago when I was working on my Ph.D. Many of the older professors – again in the hard sciences – were Jewish, but their doctoral students were often East Asians (foreign students and Americans).

    I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.

    Unfortunately, Jewish contributions – positive or negative – aren’t proportional, it seems to me. Because of their penchant for the verbal and, not unrelatedly, for the mercenary and the intrigue, Jewish intellectual contribution to the hard sciences has collapsed, but their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law – in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today – has increased… and not for the better for the society at large.

    Jews are hardly alone in this – they obviously have many fellow-travelers (people love to follow and imitate the winners), but it’s pretty clear that much of the culturally, socially, and institutionally coarse and destructive tendencies of our society is highly Jewish-inflected and -led. And I think many “normie” Americans are starting to sense that and are starting to question if not rebel, hence the panicked cries of “increasing anti-Semitism” in the media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/us-jews-antisemitism-emigration/

    ‘When was it too late?’ Some U.S. Jews wonder about their place in America.

    Joe Py had been chipping away at a project he dreaded. In the past few years, he sold his valuable paperweight collection, got certified copies of his birth and marriage documents, and researched what it would be like to be Jewish in other countries. Where there weren’t Confederate flags down the street, articles about armed Christian militant groups in the local paper, and megawatt celebrities spouting explicit antisemitism. As the midterms approached, bringing more instances of terrifying anti-Jewish rhetoric, he and his wife had their house staged to sell.

    “Our question was, in the 1930s, when did people know it was time? When was it too late?” said the 66-year-old Maine doctor.

    While their Jewish friends and people at their synagogue weren’t considering moving the way they were, no one dismissed their preparations as ridiculous, he said. Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed. The defeat of several prominent election deniers and Christian nationalists in the November midterms calmed Py and his wife enough to put a potential move on hold, but the questions about Jews’ place in America didn’t go away.

    “This is totally new psychological-emotional territory,” he said.

    The year 2022 began and is ending with some of the highest-recorded modern levels of antisemitic actions and Jewish worry. An atmosphere that experts say began as a shock with the 2016 election of Donald Trump and his comments against religious and racial minorities has matured, taken root and for some led to serious consideration or action toward emigrating. Warm pride in Jewish parts of the national zeitgeist such as “Seinfeld” has given way to cold calculations about what if.

    It’s the same reason you desperately play the “fellow whites” card even as you can’t help yourself and evince contempt for the non-Jews on occasion.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Twinkie


    their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law – in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today – has increased
     
    Citation needed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier. There is no KKK in Maine. There was no need to sell his valuable paperweight collection. I don't know any Jews in America who are so worried that they are looking for an exit. I do know a number of Jews, mostly Orthodox, who have ACTUALLY moved to Israel but mostly because of religious reasons and not because they are afraid of the KKK of Maine.

    If Joe Py really wanted to exit, there is a daily flight to Israel out of Boston on El Al. From NY, he has his choice of Continental, Delta, El Al and United. These are only the direct flights. If he wanted to make a connecting flight he would have the choice of dozens going thru London or Paris or Frankfurt or any major European city. He could be living in Tel Aviv tomorrow, although selling his house in Maine is not going to get him an equivalent place there - it's an expensive city. He could have even brought his valuable paperweight collection with him.

    Generally speaking, the more you TALK about danger, the less danger you are actually in. It's like all the Leftists who said they were gonna move to Canada when Trump was elected but none of them actually kept their promise.

    I'm sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique - when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe's story that he wrote up.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Twinkie

    , @HammerJack
    @Twinkie


    Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed.
     
    Even by the standards of jewish MSM agitprop that article is shocking. Is this the sort of stuff they're publishing nowadays? I had to look to make sure it wasn't a parody site. And they end by warning white people that they'll lose Seinfeld if the jews emigrate.

    Valuable paperweight collection? Seriously? Nazi confederate flags flying from all the buildings? This is what happens when an insane minority controls the media.

  203. @Jack D
    @John Pepple

    Things are not going that great for the theocracy in Iran. They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.

    A future Muslim majority Dublin (if that ever happens) is not going to look like Kabul with women in chadors and no alcohol. It's going to look like Sarajevo or Tirana where it's hardly different than any other European city. The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don't have that in Ireland.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @John Pepple

    They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.

    I can tell you’ve never worked or lived in Muslim countries (let alone fought in them), because you parrot the standard Western liberal bullshit about Muslim societies. Take this drivel for example:

    The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don’t have that in Ireland.

    What you don’t seem to understand is that it’s not the “backward peasant population” in Muslim countries that seek and support religious purity and repression. The countryside in most Muslim countries, indeed, is and has been backward, but also has been much more “syncretic” and ancient-tribal in religious orientation. In Sunni countries, that meant that the rural population was much more Sufi and “unorthodox,” for lack of a better term (perhaps not exactly tolerant, but not purist either).

    The religiously purist movements in Muslim countries – e.g. Salafism – are largely modern phenomena that are also reactions to Western dominance. As such, the mainstay of support for them in quite a few Muslim countries is the newly emergent technocratic middle class, not the illiterate peasants or peasants-turned-urban proletariat. But the paradigm of “country bumpkins = religiously intolerant anti-modernists” surely does appeal to Western leftists who hate Christianity in their own countries.

    Moreover, several Muslim countries have experienced a very rapid, dramatic growth in urbanization, which has resulted in severe cultural dislocation – fraying of organic community ties that are far stronger and persistent in rural areas – so the yearning for and salience of a religious identity has increased among the urban middle class populations: https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D8V69RR7

    middle class parents’ classed aspirations and anxieties regarding education, wealth, morality, and corruption coalesce to create ready consumers for a particular type of Islamic school: one that provides a longer school day, strong academics, and a robust religious curriculum focused on Islamic morals and values.

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/trans-trans-regional-and-national-studies-of-southeast-asia/article/abs/sekolah-islam-islamic-schools-as-symbols-of-indonesias-urban-muslim-identity/8F6A0FB83E759289A46F8F1CC6B5C713

    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Twinkie


    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.
     
    You gotta wonder whether this particular phenomenon is sui generis - specific to the region. Perhaps it's related to the economic dominance of another middleman minority that is distinctly not Islamic. When or if Pax Americana retreats from the region, I expect that particular strain of Islam will be ruthlessly crushed in China's new Southeast Asian provinces, with mullahs turned into involuntary organ donors, but not before they spend decades turning out iPhones and Nike sneakers.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  204. @Cagey Beast
    @Jack D

    It's likely because my misogyny and Toryism are overpowering my anti-Semitism but I have to agree with Jack D here. People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that's gone wrong in our countries.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

    People need to take a close look at the Anglo-American liberal-progressive tradition before they blame the Jews for everything that’s gone wrong in our countries.

    “Jews are to blame for everything” strawman is just a device to shut down an honest evaluation of the Jewish elite leadership role in what ails today’s West.

    No, Jews aren’t to blame for everything. And their contributions are both positive and negative. But the crudest and simplest way I would put it is that they are force-multipliers (or “cadres” in commie-lingo) of the ideological and social trends that are weakening today’s West. But if you say that in public, you are a dirty anti-Semite who should be exiled from polite company and pauperized, pour encourager les autres.

    • Agree: mc23
  205. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity
     
    Of course not. Modernity was born of the Christian Western Europe, to which Jews contributed virtually nothing prior to the Jewish Emancipation. But thanks for the strawman.

    Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews).
     
    It already has crashed. Some of it has to do with Jewish intermarriage, no doubt, but even "purebred" Jews aren't what they used to be. Perhaps its dysgenics among the Ashkenazim. Or perhaps it's the collapse in Jewish work ethic/interests in hard sciences. The signs were already there thirty years or so ago when I was working on my Ph.D. Many of the older professors - again in the hard sciences - were Jewish, but their doctoral students were often East Asians (foreign students and Americans).

    I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.
     
    Unfortunately, Jewish contributions - positive or negative - aren't proportional, it seems to me. Because of their penchant for the verbal and, not unrelatedly, for the mercenary and the intrigue, Jewish intellectual contribution to the hard sciences has collapsed, but their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law - in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today - has increased... and not for the better for the society at large.

    Jews are hardly alone in this - they obviously have many fellow-travelers (people love to follow and imitate the winners), but it's pretty clear that much of the culturally, socially, and institutionally coarse and destructive tendencies of our society is highly Jewish-inflected and -led. And I think many "normie" Americans are starting to sense that and are starting to question if not rebel, hence the panicked cries of "increasing anti-Semitism" in the media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/us-jews-antisemitism-emigration/

    ‘When was it too late?’ Some U.S. Jews wonder about their place in America.

    Joe Py had been chipping away at a project he dreaded. In the past few years, he sold his valuable paperweight collection, got certified copies of his birth and marriage documents, and researched what it would be like to be Jewish in other countries. Where there weren’t Confederate flags down the street, articles about armed Christian militant groups in the local paper, and megawatt celebrities spouting explicit antisemitism. As the midterms approached, bringing more instances of terrifying anti-Jewish rhetoric, he and his wife had their house staged to sell.

    “Our question was, in the 1930s, when did people know it was time? When was it too late?” said the 66-year-old Maine doctor.

    While their Jewish friends and people at their synagogue weren’t considering moving the way they were, no one dismissed their preparations as ridiculous, he said. Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed. The defeat of several prominent election deniers and Christian nationalists in the November midterms calmed Py and his wife enough to put a potential move on hold, but the questions about Jews’ place in America didn’t go away.

    “This is totally new psychological-emotional territory,” he said.

    The year 2022 began and is ending with some of the highest-recorded modern levels of antisemitic actions and Jewish worry. An atmosphere that experts say began as a shock with the 2016 election of Donald Trump and his comments against religious and racial minorities has matured, taken root and for some led to serious consideration or action toward emigrating. Warm pride in Jewish parts of the national zeitgeist such as “Seinfeld” has given way to cold calculations about what if.
     
    It's the same reason you desperately play the "fellow whites" card even as you can't help yourself and evince contempt for the non-Jews on occasion.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @HammerJack

    their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law – in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today – has increased

    Citation needed.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @IHTG


    Citation needed.
     
    Where do you want me to start? I left out, of course, elite higher education: https://jewishcontributions.com/infotables/ivy-league/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople_in_finance

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople_in_media

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians

    https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2021/01/19/joe-bidens-jewish-cabinet/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_journalists

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/express_yourself/the-white-and-jewish-men-that-run-the-major-record-t13827.html

    https://thegoodlylawfulsociety.org/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2631782


    The rise and growth of large Jewish law firms in New York City during the second half of the twentieth century was nothing short of an astounding success story. As late as 1950, there was not a single large Jewish law firm in town. By the mid-1960s, six of the largest twenty law firms were Jewish, and by 1980, four of the largest ten prestigious law firms were Jewish firms. Moreover, the accomplishment of the Jewish firms is especially striking because, while the traditional large White Anglo-Saxon Protestant law firms grew at a fast rate during this period, the Jewish firms grew twice as fast, and they did so in spite of experiencing explicit discrimination.
     
    Where do you want me to stop?
  206. @Jack D
    @John Pepple

    Things are not going that great for the theocracy in Iran. They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.

    A future Muslim majority Dublin (if that ever happens) is not going to look like Kabul with women in chadors and no alcohol. It's going to look like Sarajevo or Tirana where it's hardly different than any other European city. The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don't have that in Ireland.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @John Pepple

    The developments you speak of in the Muslim world are, to use Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s expression, fragile. I’ve seen photos of women in Afghanistan in the 1960s wearing miniskirts, yet look at them now.

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing. As for the current regime’s troubles, there are plenty of people here at Unz Review who think they are the result not of a grass roots uprising, but of Israeli manipulation. But even if the current regime gets overthrown, we don’t really know what will replace it. Back in 1979, I just assumed the Shah’s regime would be replaced by a secular and socialist entity, but after seeing what actually happened, I would not venture to predict what would emerge today.

    As for a possible Muslim majority in Dublin, keep in mind first that Islam is not an ethnicity but a religion and that people can convert to it at any time. (As I said before, converting away is very difficult.) So, the numbers of immigrants and their descendants are the bare minimum. Some non-Muslims will convert because they see Islam winning and they want to be with a winner. Some will convert (especially women) because it is more convenient for them to do so. Some will convert because they know it will stop all the theft that happens from Muslims in their neighborhoods. Some will convert because all their friends, relatives, and neighbors have done so. And some will convert because they are sick of the direction the West is moving.

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @John Pepple


    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.
     
    Cultures don't rule people. People rule cultures. And when I say people, I mean specific individuals. A ruler who might adopt a given faith to get to the top can repudiate that faith when he consolidates absolute power in his own two hands. Someone who gains power with the help of mullahs can exterminate those mullahs once he gets all of the key generals in the palm of his hand. Consider what the Saudis did to their retainers when those underlings got out of hand:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikhwan_revolt

    It's similar to what Stalin did to various factions of the Communist Party on his way to the top. He'd side with one faction, then repudiate it once it had outlived its usefulness.

    Ultimately, even Islam runs into church and state issues. Will ultimate power lie with the mosque or the state? In Islam, the trend has been for the state to gain supremacy*, mainly because the mosque is decentralized and has no armies of its own. Mullahs are easy to kill and their families are basically hostages to the state's whim. If Islam becomes the majority religion in the various European countries, the same dynamic will play out. Note that Iran continues speaking Persian despite over a thousand years of Islam. If the mullahs had their druthers, all of Dar al Islam would be speaking Arabic.

    * The first manifestation of this was when Muhammad, the Messenger of God, in the Islamic canon, died without male issue. His grandson through his daughter sought to take the reins of power, in Muhammad's place, over the empire. Muhammad's retainers resisted and killed that grandson, touching off the schism that divided Islam into Sunni and Shia. The Shia believe that Muhammad's direct line should have succeeded him. The Sunni disagree. Power struggle became religious schism. In reality, probably more a matter of personal advancement than any real religious discord. But you can't exactly say that in front of the rubes who are risking their lives in your behalf.

    , @Cato
    @John Pepple


    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing.
     
    I also have no direct way of knowing. But a few years ago a friend from Iran told me a joke that had been circulating in Tehran:

    An American goes to visit Iran, and it so happens that his visit coincides with Ramadan. When he comes home, his friends are curious and ask about his visit. He tells them, "Iran has a deeply interesting, unique, and ancient culture, but there is one very strange thing. Iranians are always hiding their food in odd places and then sneaking away to eat it in secret".

     

    Cramming religion down their throats does not make Iranians more devout. As the economist Kenneth Boulder has pointed out, an established religion creates religious apathy (for example, Scandinavia), but an environment in which denominations compete for adherents creates religious fervor (Bible Belt, USA).

    On the other hand, when you live in a merciless police state (which Iran certainly is), would you express your disapproval of its policies? It would not be prudent. So when you hear that most Iranians "approve" of their state, you should treat that with some skepticism.

    My experience has been that educated Iranians believe in God, turn to God when in crisis, but mostly get on like the rest of us. They have no love for their government -- even less love than the average American has for their own government. But that is for the educated, relatively cosmopolitan Iranians. From what I hear, the villagers are much more devout and much more trusting of the Iranian state.

    , @Nachum
    @John Pepple

    Here's a simple metric to see what Iranians think: Compare the birthrate in 1979 to the birthrate today.

  207. @Twinkie
    My wife and I watch a TV show called Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. The actress who plays his daughter-in-law is supposed to be an American Indian and identifies as such. She calls herself Kelsey Asbille.

    https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/25th+Annual+Elton+John+AIDS+Foundation+Oscar+wogy4kKhJWyx.jpg

    Turns out, her real name is Kelsey Chow, and there is no evidence of an American Indian ancestry: https://nextshark.com/kelsey-asbille-eurasian-actress-exposed-after-falsely-claiming-she-was-part-native-american-for-film-role

    This is her father, General Jim Chow: https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/bio/1/1983.html

    https://www.nationalguard.mil/portals/31/Features/ngbgomo/Images/photo/1/1983.jpg

    Replies: @Shamu, @Known Fact, @JR Ewing, @Director95, @Chrisnonymous, @Mike Tre, @duncsbaby, @mc23

    Close enough for the casting couch.
    In the movie Black Rob, involving Jesuit missonaries to the Hurons, they cast a Canadian half Chinese/ half French actress as the love interest. Beautiful woman. They tried to cast Indians in the film roles as much as possible but it’s not a deep bench.

  208. @Director95
    @Twinkie

    She's a real cupcake no matter what tribe she claims.
    I can never post jpegs here. How do you do it?
    I have a great photo of Warren in her Pocahontas garb.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “I can never post jpegs here. How do you do it?”

    You post a direct link to wherever it is on the Web. The only exception is if it won’t display because some people don’t like their servers (with the images on) being used to put images on other people’s sites, and some for political reasons don’t want their pics to be shown at Unz.

    If you want to show an image that’s elsewhere, you go to the relevant page

    right-click on the picture “open image in new tab”

    then copy the address from the address bar
    paste it into your comment

    If it wont display as above, you need to copy it to your hard drive and continue as below

    Now if you have a stunning photo on your hard drive, say

    C:/Users/User/Pictures/goodgrieflookatthat.JPG

    You have to get it onto the Web. I tend to use this free picture host

    https://postimages.org/

    You can select the jpg from your drive. no login or mail required, and it gives you a direct link option, which is the one you paste into your comment. Like this one

  209. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity
     
    Of course not. Modernity was born of the Christian Western Europe, to which Jews contributed virtually nothing prior to the Jewish Emancipation. But thanks for the strawman.

    Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews).
     
    It already has crashed. Some of it has to do with Jewish intermarriage, no doubt, but even "purebred" Jews aren't what they used to be. Perhaps its dysgenics among the Ashkenazim. Or perhaps it's the collapse in Jewish work ethic/interests in hard sciences. The signs were already there thirty years or so ago when I was working on my Ph.D. Many of the older professors - again in the hard sciences - were Jewish, but their doctoral students were often East Asians (foreign students and Americans).

    I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.
     
    Unfortunately, Jewish contributions - positive or negative - aren't proportional, it seems to me. Because of their penchant for the verbal and, not unrelatedly, for the mercenary and the intrigue, Jewish intellectual contribution to the hard sciences has collapsed, but their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law - in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today - has increased... and not for the better for the society at large.

    Jews are hardly alone in this - they obviously have many fellow-travelers (people love to follow and imitate the winners), but it's pretty clear that much of the culturally, socially, and institutionally coarse and destructive tendencies of our society is highly Jewish-inflected and -led. And I think many "normie" Americans are starting to sense that and are starting to question if not rebel, hence the panicked cries of "increasing anti-Semitism" in the media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/us-jews-antisemitism-emigration/

    ‘When was it too late?’ Some U.S. Jews wonder about their place in America.

    Joe Py had been chipping away at a project he dreaded. In the past few years, he sold his valuable paperweight collection, got certified copies of his birth and marriage documents, and researched what it would be like to be Jewish in other countries. Where there weren’t Confederate flags down the street, articles about armed Christian militant groups in the local paper, and megawatt celebrities spouting explicit antisemitism. As the midterms approached, bringing more instances of terrifying anti-Jewish rhetoric, he and his wife had their house staged to sell.

    “Our question was, in the 1930s, when did people know it was time? When was it too late?” said the 66-year-old Maine doctor.

    While their Jewish friends and people at their synagogue weren’t considering moving the way they were, no one dismissed their preparations as ridiculous, he said. Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed. The defeat of several prominent election deniers and Christian nationalists in the November midterms calmed Py and his wife enough to put a potential move on hold, but the questions about Jews’ place in America didn’t go away.

    “This is totally new psychological-emotional territory,” he said.

    The year 2022 began and is ending with some of the highest-recorded modern levels of antisemitic actions and Jewish worry. An atmosphere that experts say began as a shock with the 2016 election of Donald Trump and his comments against religious and racial minorities has matured, taken root and for some led to serious consideration or action toward emigrating. Warm pride in Jewish parts of the national zeitgeist such as “Seinfeld” has given way to cold calculations about what if.
     
    It's the same reason you desperately play the "fellow whites" card even as you can't help yourself and evince contempt for the non-Jews on occasion.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @HammerJack

    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier. There is no KKK in Maine. There was no need to sell his valuable paperweight collection. I don’t know any Jews in America who are so worried that they are looking for an exit. I do know a number of Jews, mostly Orthodox, who have ACTUALLY moved to Israel but mostly because of religious reasons and not because they are afraid of the KKK of Maine.

    If Joe Py really wanted to exit, there is a daily flight to Israel out of Boston on El Al. From NY, he has his choice of Continental, Delta, El Al and United. These are only the direct flights. If he wanted to make a connecting flight he would have the choice of dozens going thru London or Paris or Frankfurt or any major European city. He could be living in Tel Aviv tomorrow, although selling his house in Maine is not going to get him an equivalent place there – it’s an expensive city. He could have even brought his valuable paperweight collection with him.

    Generally speaking, the more you TALK about danger, the less danger you are actually in. It’s like all the Leftists who said they were gonna move to Canada when Trump was elected but none of them actually kept their promise.

    I’m sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique – when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe’s story that he wrote up.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    I’m sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique – when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe’s story that he wrote up.
     
    They've been doing this literally since the profession came into being. Heck, when Upton Sinclair couldn't find what he wanted, he made it up, published a book entitled "The Jungle" and then claimed, insincerely, that it was meant to be fiction, while probably assuming that the public would take it as fact, given that he was a "journalist".

    https://fee.org/articles/ideas-and-consequences-of-meat-and-myth/

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier.
     
    Sadly he is not an outlier.

    Even Fox News is on the anti-Semitism moral panic bandwagon: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/antisemitism-rise-american-jewish-groups-aim-take-stand-against-threats

    Antisemitism and antisemitic incidents are on the rise, but as Jewish people face hate at a higher rate than any other religious group in the U.S., there are organizations working to ensure that Jews can protect themselves and their communities – and in the process, perhaps dispel the idea that they are easy targets.
     
    Indeed, all the mainstream new media orgs - the networks, the major newspapers, NPR, Yahoo, etc. - are "reporting" this in lockstep. It's like some group dominates the media or something. ;)

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  210. This is no different than the many hoaxes that American jews inflict on themselves. You see, jewish victimhood has to be reinforced from time to time. Black spray paint is cheap and can be relatively easy to remove from the outside of the synagogue building once the hoax fulfills its purpose.
    I just wish that the jewish hoaxers would observe the proper direction of the swastika “points”…(always to the right)…lol

  211. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier. There is no KKK in Maine. There was no need to sell his valuable paperweight collection. I don't know any Jews in America who are so worried that they are looking for an exit. I do know a number of Jews, mostly Orthodox, who have ACTUALLY moved to Israel but mostly because of religious reasons and not because they are afraid of the KKK of Maine.

    If Joe Py really wanted to exit, there is a daily flight to Israel out of Boston on El Al. From NY, he has his choice of Continental, Delta, El Al and United. These are only the direct flights. If he wanted to make a connecting flight he would have the choice of dozens going thru London or Paris or Frankfurt or any major European city. He could be living in Tel Aviv tomorrow, although selling his house in Maine is not going to get him an equivalent place there - it's an expensive city. He could have even brought his valuable paperweight collection with him.

    Generally speaking, the more you TALK about danger, the less danger you are actually in. It's like all the Leftists who said they were gonna move to Canada when Trump was elected but none of them actually kept their promise.

    I'm sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique - when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe's story that he wrote up.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Twinkie

    I’m sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique – when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe’s story that he wrote up.

    They’ve been doing this literally since the profession came into being. Heck, when Upton Sinclair couldn’t find what he wanted, he made it up, published a book entitled “The Jungle” and then claimed, insincerely, that it was meant to be fiction, while probably assuming that the public would take it as fact, given that he was a “journalist”.

    https://fee.org/articles/ideas-and-consequences-of-meat-and-myth/

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Johann Ricke


    They’ve been doing this literally since the profession came into being.
     
    Of course, the whole #EndAsianHate hoax was the same. But there is a big difference in Jewish-dominated media going out and selling "the rise of anti-Semitism" stories and the same elites pushing "the rise of ant-Asian hate" stories.

    Do you not see the difference?
  212. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    They are hanging on by a thread because a huge % of the population hates them and wants to join the modern world. Many other places in the Muslim world have already largely reconciled with modernity, such as the Emirates, Bosnia, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is moving in the direction of allowing women to drive and work outside the home.
     
    I can tell you've never worked or lived in Muslim countries (let alone fought in them), because you parrot the standard Western liberal bullshit about Muslim societies. Take this drivel for example:

    The main driver of regression in Islamic countries is that you have a large, high birth rate backward peasant population in the countryside and they keep migrating to the cities and setting the culture back but you don’t have that in Ireland.
     
    What you don't seem to understand is that it's not the "backward peasant population" in Muslim countries that seek and support religious purity and repression. The countryside in most Muslim countries, indeed, is and has been backward, but also has been much more "syncretic" and ancient-tribal in religious orientation. In Sunni countries, that meant that the rural population was much more Sufi and "unorthodox," for lack of a better term (perhaps not exactly tolerant, but not purist either).

    The religiously purist movements in Muslim countries - e.g. Salafism - are largely modern phenomena that are also reactions to Western dominance. As such, the mainstay of support for them in quite a few Muslim countries is the newly emergent technocratic middle class, not the illiterate peasants or peasants-turned-urban proletariat. But the paradigm of "country bumpkins = religiously intolerant anti-modernists" surely does appeal to Western leftists who hate Christianity in their own countries.

    Moreover, several Muslim countries have experienced a very rapid, dramatic growth in urbanization, which has resulted in severe cultural dislocation - fraying of organic community ties that are far stronger and persistent in rural areas - so the yearning for and salience of a religious identity has increased among the urban middle class populations: https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D8V69RR7

    middle class parents' classed aspirations and anxieties regarding education, wealth, morality, and corruption coalesce to create ready consumers for a particular type of Islamic school: one that provides a longer school day, strong academics, and a robust religious curriculum focused on Islamic morals and values.
     
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/trans-trans-regional-and-national-studies-of-southeast-asia/article/abs/sekolah-islam-islamic-schools-as-symbols-of-indonesias-urban-muslim-identity/8F6A0FB83E759289A46F8F1CC6B5C713

    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.
     

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.

    You gotta wonder whether this particular phenomenon is sui generis – specific to the region. Perhaps it’s related to the economic dominance of another middleman minority that is distinctly not Islamic. When or if Pax Americana retreats from the region, I expect that particular strain of Islam will be ruthlessly crushed in China’s new Southeast Asian provinces, with mullahs turned into involuntary organ donors, but not before they spend decades turning out iPhones and Nike sneakers.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Johann Ricke

    This phenomenon is not just in Southeast Asia. It's present amply in the Middle East as well whence Salafism originates. Western liberals (and anti-Christians in general, into which sentiment Jack D occasionally trod as is common with Jews) love to portray religious purism (or "reformism" as Protestants might phrase) as the purview of the traditional and the rural. In reality, it's often neither the traditional aristocrats nor the peasants (or the yeomanry) who favor religious purism, but the burgeoning educated, urban middle classes.

    You see this in Pakistan too as well as in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. In these countries, what I call the technocratic middle class people are actually not nascent Western liberals, but are people who are acutely anxious of Western influences and who also rue the weakening of the traditional ties of extended family and organic community (again, these are less influential factors in rural areas). Such people often turn to rigor - both in academics/career achievement and in religious fervor - and derived a renewed identity through religion, because they don't have the same degree of tribal-, geographically-, and/or other traditionally-based identities.

    This is why some scholars compare the Salafists and the like as Islamic Protestants.

  213. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier. There is no KKK in Maine. There was no need to sell his valuable paperweight collection. I don't know any Jews in America who are so worried that they are looking for an exit. I do know a number of Jews, mostly Orthodox, who have ACTUALLY moved to Israel but mostly because of religious reasons and not because they are afraid of the KKK of Maine.

    If Joe Py really wanted to exit, there is a daily flight to Israel out of Boston on El Al. From NY, he has his choice of Continental, Delta, El Al and United. These are only the direct flights. If he wanted to make a connecting flight he would have the choice of dozens going thru London or Paris or Frankfurt or any major European city. He could be living in Tel Aviv tomorrow, although selling his house in Maine is not going to get him an equivalent place there - it's an expensive city. He could have even brought his valuable paperweight collection with him.

    Generally speaking, the more you TALK about danger, the less danger you are actually in. It's like all the Leftists who said they were gonna move to Canada when Trump was elected but none of them actually kept their promise.

    I'm sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique - when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe's story that he wrote up.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Twinkie

    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier.

    Sadly he is not an outlier.

    Even Fox News is on the anti-Semitism moral panic bandwagon: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/antisemitism-rise-american-jewish-groups-aim-take-stand-against-threats

    Antisemitism and antisemitic incidents are on the rise, but as Jewish people face hate at a higher rate than any other religious group in the U.S., there are organizations working to ensure that Jews can protect themselves and their communities – and in the process, perhaps dispel the idea that they are easy targets.

    Indeed, all the mainstream new media orgs – the networks, the major newspapers, NPR, Yahoo, etc. – are “reporting” this in lockstep. It’s like some group dominates the media or something. 😉

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    "Anti-semitism" does not exist; never has, never will. And it quite certainly does not exist in the United States, of all places.

    What does exist is basic human power relations: play power games, win power prizes. Play vengeance games, win vengeance prizes. And so forth. Yawn.

    Or rather, I *would* yawn, in the comfort of my study with a glass of 18-year Highland malt in my hand, a volume of Rilke in my lap, and K.466 on the electrico-moderno-stereo-device, except that the invention of fictitious "anti-semitism" and its ludicrous/malicious fake "cures" has brought so much destruction and nonsense to my otherwise woulda-been sensible nation and civilization.

  214. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    But, this doesn’t mean that Jews are the CAUSE of conditions of modernity
     
    Of course not. Modernity was born of the Christian Western Europe, to which Jews contributed virtually nothing prior to the Jewish Emancipation. But thanks for the strawman.

    Looking at things like Nobel Prizes, Jews, who are like 2% of the US population and some tiny fraction of the world population, in the 20th century earned something like 20 or 25% of the total (this is going to crash because we are running out of pure bred secular Jews).
     
    It already has crashed. Some of it has to do with Jewish intermarriage, no doubt, but even "purebred" Jews aren't what they used to be. Perhaps its dysgenics among the Ashkenazim. Or perhaps it's the collapse in Jewish work ethic/interests in hard sciences. The signs were already there thirty years or so ago when I was working on my Ph.D. Many of the older professors - again in the hard sciences - were Jewish, but their doctoral students were often East Asians (foreign students and Americans).

    I would accept the same level of blame for what you would consider “bad stuff” like feminism. So, if you get rid of the Jews tomorrow, progress in science and the arts doesn’t stop (it doesn’t even go down 20 or 25% because someone else would step into the now vacant ecological niche) and likewise, getting rid of the Jews doesn’t make all “bad stuff” go away either.

    But I don’t hear the anti-Semites of Unz saying that the Jews are 20% to blame for the woes of the modern world. In their book, the Joos share of blame is 100%.
     
    Unfortunately, Jewish contributions - positive or negative - aren't proportional, it seems to me. Because of their penchant for the verbal and, not unrelatedly, for the mercenary and the intrigue, Jewish intellectual contribution to the hard sciences has collapsed, but their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law - in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today - has increased... and not for the better for the society at large.

    Jews are hardly alone in this - they obviously have many fellow-travelers (people love to follow and imitate the winners), but it's pretty clear that much of the culturally, socially, and institutionally coarse and destructive tendencies of our society is highly Jewish-inflected and -led. And I think many "normie" Americans are starting to sense that and are starting to question if not rebel, hence the panicked cries of "increasing anti-Semitism" in the media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/us-jews-antisemitism-emigration/

    ‘When was it too late?’ Some U.S. Jews wonder about their place in America.

    Joe Py had been chipping away at a project he dreaded. In the past few years, he sold his valuable paperweight collection, got certified copies of his birth and marriage documents, and researched what it would be like to be Jewish in other countries. Where there weren’t Confederate flags down the street, articles about armed Christian militant groups in the local paper, and megawatt celebrities spouting explicit antisemitism. As the midterms approached, bringing more instances of terrifying anti-Jewish rhetoric, he and his wife had their house staged to sell.

    “Our question was, in the 1930s, when did people know it was time? When was it too late?” said the 66-year-old Maine doctor.

    While their Jewish friends and people at their synagogue weren’t considering moving the way they were, no one dismissed their preparations as ridiculous, he said. Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed. The defeat of several prominent election deniers and Christian nationalists in the November midterms calmed Py and his wife enough to put a potential move on hold, but the questions about Jews’ place in America didn’t go away.

    “This is totally new psychological-emotional territory,” he said.

    The year 2022 began and is ending with some of the highest-recorded modern levels of antisemitic actions and Jewish worry. An atmosphere that experts say began as a shock with the 2016 election of Donald Trump and his comments against religious and racial minorities has matured, taken root and for some led to serious consideration or action toward emigrating. Warm pride in Jewish parts of the national zeitgeist such as “Seinfeld” has given way to cold calculations about what if.
     
    It's the same reason you desperately play the "fellow whites" card even as you can't help yourself and evince contempt for the non-Jews on occasion.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @HammerJack

    Their real estate agent said they weren’t the only Jewish family exploring moving. She offered to hide them if that were ever needed.

    Even by the standards of jewish MSM agitprop that article is shocking. Is this the sort of stuff they’re publishing nowadays? I had to look to make sure it wasn’t a parody site. And they end by warning white people that they’ll lose Seinfeld if the jews emigrate.

    Valuable paperweight collection? Seriously? Nazi confederate flags flying from all the buildings? This is what happens when an insane minority controls the media.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  215. @John Pepple
    @Jack D

    The developments you speak of in the Muslim world are, to use Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s expression, fragile. I’ve seen photos of women in Afghanistan in the 1960s wearing miniskirts, yet look at them now.

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing. As for the current regime’s troubles, there are plenty of people here at Unz Review who think they are the result not of a grass roots uprising, but of Israeli manipulation. But even if the current regime gets overthrown, we don’t really know what will replace it. Back in 1979, I just assumed the Shah’s regime would be replaced by a secular and socialist entity, but after seeing what actually happened, I would not venture to predict what would emerge today.

    As for a possible Muslim majority in Dublin, keep in mind first that Islam is not an ethnicity but a religion and that people can convert to it at any time. (As I said before, converting away is very difficult.) So, the numbers of immigrants and their descendants are the bare minimum. Some non-Muslims will convert because they see Islam winning and they want to be with a winner. Some will convert (especially women) because it is more convenient for them to do so. Some will convert because they know it will stop all the theft that happens from Muslims in their neighborhoods. Some will convert because all their friends, relatives, and neighbors have done so. And some will convert because they are sick of the direction the West is moving.

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Cato, @Nachum

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    Cultures don’t rule people. People rule cultures. And when I say people, I mean specific individuals. A ruler who might adopt a given faith to get to the top can repudiate that faith when he consolidates absolute power in his own two hands. Someone who gains power with the help of mullahs can exterminate those mullahs once he gets all of the key generals in the palm of his hand. Consider what the Saudis did to their retainers when those underlings got out of hand:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikhwan_revolt

    It’s similar to what Stalin did to various factions of the Communist Party on his way to the top. He’d side with one faction, then repudiate it once it had outlived its usefulness.

    Ultimately, even Islam runs into church and state issues. Will ultimate power lie with the mosque or the state? In Islam, the trend has been for the state to gain supremacy*, mainly because the mosque is decentralized and has no armies of its own. Mullahs are easy to kill and their families are basically hostages to the state’s whim. If Islam becomes the majority religion in the various European countries, the same dynamic will play out. Note that Iran continues speaking Persian despite over a thousand years of Islam. If the mullahs had their druthers, all of Dar al Islam would be speaking Arabic.

    * The first manifestation of this was when Muhammad, the Messenger of God, in the Islamic canon, died without male issue. His grandson through his daughter sought to take the reins of power, in Muhammad’s place, over the empire. Muhammad’s retainers resisted and killed that grandson, touching off the schism that divided Islam into Sunni and Shia. The Shia believe that Muhammad’s direct line should have succeeded him. The Sunni disagree. Power struggle became religious schism. In reality, probably more a matter of personal advancement than any real religious discord. But you can’t exactly say that in front of the rubes who are risking their lives in your behalf.

    • Thanks: Cato
  216. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    Joe Py is a ridiculous outlier.
     
    Sadly he is not an outlier.

    Even Fox News is on the anti-Semitism moral panic bandwagon: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/antisemitism-rise-american-jewish-groups-aim-take-stand-against-threats

    Antisemitism and antisemitic incidents are on the rise, but as Jewish people face hate at a higher rate than any other religious group in the U.S., there are organizations working to ensure that Jews can protect themselves and their communities – and in the process, perhaps dispel the idea that they are easy targets.
     
    Indeed, all the mainstream new media orgs - the networks, the major newspapers, NPR, Yahoo, etc. - are "reporting" this in lockstep. It's like some group dominates the media or something. ;)

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Anti-semitism” does not exist; never has, never will. And it quite certainly does not exist in the United States, of all places.

    What does exist is basic human power relations: play power games, win power prizes. Play vengeance games, win vengeance prizes. And so forth. Yawn.

    Or rather, I *would* yawn, in the comfort of my study with a glass of 18-year Highland malt in my hand, a volume of Rilke in my lap, and K.466 on the electrico-moderno-stereo-device, except that the invention of fictitious “anti-semitism” and its ludicrous/malicious fake “cures” has brought so much destruction and nonsense to my otherwise woulda-been sensible nation and civilization.

  217. @John Pepple
    @Jack D

    The developments you speak of in the Muslim world are, to use Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s expression, fragile. I’ve seen photos of women in Afghanistan in the 1960s wearing miniskirts, yet look at them now.

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing. As for the current regime’s troubles, there are plenty of people here at Unz Review who think they are the result not of a grass roots uprising, but of Israeli manipulation. But even if the current regime gets overthrown, we don’t really know what will replace it. Back in 1979, I just assumed the Shah’s regime would be replaced by a secular and socialist entity, but after seeing what actually happened, I would not venture to predict what would emerge today.

    As for a possible Muslim majority in Dublin, keep in mind first that Islam is not an ethnicity but a religion and that people can convert to it at any time. (As I said before, converting away is very difficult.) So, the numbers of immigrants and their descendants are the bare minimum. Some non-Muslims will convert because they see Islam winning and they want to be with a winner. Some will convert (especially women) because it is more convenient for them to do so. Some will convert because they know it will stop all the theft that happens from Muslims in their neighborhoods. Some will convert because all their friends, relatives, and neighbors have done so. And some will convert because they are sick of the direction the West is moving.

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Cato, @Nachum

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing.

    I also have no direct way of knowing. But a few years ago a friend from Iran told me a joke that had been circulating in Tehran:

    An American goes to visit Iran, and it so happens that his visit coincides with Ramadan. When he comes home, his friends are curious and ask about his visit. He tells them, “Iran has a deeply interesting, unique, and ancient culture, but there is one very strange thing. Iranians are always hiding their food in odd places and then sneaking away to eat it in secret”.

    Cramming religion down their throats does not make Iranians more devout. As the economist Kenneth Boulder has pointed out, an established religion creates religious apathy (for example, Scandinavia), but an environment in which denominations compete for adherents creates religious fervor (Bible Belt, USA).

    On the other hand, when you live in a merciless police state (which Iran certainly is), would you express your disapproval of its policies? It would not be prudent. So when you hear that most Iranians “approve” of their state, you should treat that with some skepticism.

    My experience has been that educated Iranians believe in God, turn to God when in crisis, but mostly get on like the rest of us. They have no love for their government — even less love than the average American has for their own government. But that is for the educated, relatively cosmopolitan Iranians. From what I hear, the villagers are much more devout and much more trusting of the Iranian state.

  218. @Johann Ricke
    @Twinkie


    the relationship between Sekolah Islam (Salafism-influenced Islamic schools) and urban middle-class Muslims. Based on ethnographic fieldwork in the City of Serang (Kota Serang), near Jakarta, this paper argues that these conservative and puritan Muslims demonstrate their Islamic identity politics through their engagement with Sekolah Islam.
     
    You gotta wonder whether this particular phenomenon is sui generis - specific to the region. Perhaps it's related to the economic dominance of another middleman minority that is distinctly not Islamic. When or if Pax Americana retreats from the region, I expect that particular strain of Islam will be ruthlessly crushed in China's new Southeast Asian provinces, with mullahs turned into involuntary organ donors, but not before they spend decades turning out iPhones and Nike sneakers.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    This phenomenon is not just in Southeast Asia. It’s present amply in the Middle East as well whence Salafism originates. Western liberals (and anti-Christians in general, into which sentiment Jack D occasionally trod as is common with Jews) love to portray religious purism (or “reformism” as Protestants might phrase) as the purview of the traditional and the rural. In reality, it’s often neither the traditional aristocrats nor the peasants (or the yeomanry) who favor religious purism, but the burgeoning educated, urban middle classes.

    You see this in Pakistan too as well as in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. In these countries, what I call the technocratic middle class people are actually not nascent Western liberals, but are people who are acutely anxious of Western influences and who also rue the weakening of the traditional ties of extended family and organic community (again, these are less influential factors in rural areas). Such people often turn to rigor – both in academics/career achievement and in religious fervor – and derived a renewed identity through religion, because they don’t have the same degree of tribal-, geographically-, and/or other traditionally-based identities.

    This is why some scholars compare the Salafists and the like as Islamic Protestants.

  219. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    I’m sure you are familiar with this journalistic technique – when a reporter wants to write something, he goes looking for someone who will affirm what he wants to say. Maybe the reporter called up 100 Jews who told him GTFO when he asked them if they were worried about a Nazi takeover of America but he kept digging until he found Joe and it was Joe’s story that he wrote up.
     
    They've been doing this literally since the profession came into being. Heck, when Upton Sinclair couldn't find what he wanted, he made it up, published a book entitled "The Jungle" and then claimed, insincerely, that it was meant to be fiction, while probably assuming that the public would take it as fact, given that he was a "journalist".

    https://fee.org/articles/ideas-and-consequences-of-meat-and-myth/

    Replies: @Twinkie

    They’ve been doing this literally since the profession came into being.

    Of course, the whole #EndAsianHate hoax was the same. But there is a big difference in Jewish-dominated media going out and selling “the rise of anti-Semitism” stories and the same elites pushing “the rise of ant-Asian hate” stories.

    Do you not see the difference?

  220. @IHTG
    @Twinkie


    their dominance in such fields as entertainment, media, politics, finance, and law – in other words all the things that permeate our daily lives today – has increased
     
    Citation needed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Citation needed.

    Where do you want me to start? I left out, of course, elite higher education: https://jewishcontributions.com/infotables/ivy-league/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople_in_finance

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople_in_media

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians

    https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2021/01/19/joe-bidens-jewish-cabinet/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_journalists

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/express_yourself/the-white-and-jewish-men-that-run-the-major-record-t13827.html

    https://thegoodlylawfulsociety.org/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2631782

    The rise and growth of large Jewish law firms in New York City during the second half of the twentieth century was nothing short of an astounding success story. As late as 1950, there was not a single large Jewish law firm in town. By the mid-1960s, six of the largest twenty law firms were Jewish, and by 1980, four of the largest ten prestigious law firms were Jewish firms. Moreover, the accomplishment of the Jewish firms is especially striking because, while the traditional large White Anglo-Saxon Protestant law firms grew at a fast rate during this period, the Jewish firms grew twice as fast, and they did so in spite of experiencing explicit discrimination.

    Where do you want me to stop?

  221. @Shamu
    @Twinkie

    She is an Asian doing what the Anglo-Zionist elites have set as the proper pattern for white chicks. She is marking how assimilated she is to America.

    I do not like much about that show. It is written way over the top, and features all kinds of crap that is normal for Jewish business and family life but is out of place among the ranching world. I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @megabar, @Twinkie, @Hibernian

    I see it, and all that Taylor Sheridan does, as contemporary version off earlier Hollywood fare that at times seem to be taking a stand for Middle America, but always perverts it in key ways.

    The speechifying and psychologizing by characters in old Westerns, including by characters played by Jimmy Stewart and Audie Murphy, can be amazing.

  222. @Cagey Beast
    @kaganovitch

    Would a creature like Lori Lightfoot be celebrated if White ladies weren't setting the tone? "The personal is political" isn't just a slogan for them; it's an explanation for why they've been kept out of politics for nearly all of recorded history.

    A homely little Black lesbian only becomes a rare gem in a political culture that's given up on public affairs (ie politics) and is instead obsessed with promoting people with the most loser points.

    Women like to have one handsome leader who emotes and scolds on their behalf (eg Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron) and then the rest of the positions can be filled with special needs types, as an act of charity and a way to "smash the White patriarchy" that they both love and hate passionately.

    Replies: @Lurker, @HammerJack, @Hibernian

    Lightfoot emerged from a first round in which she and the other top 2 finisher (I forget which came in first in the first round.) both got in the range of 15% to 18%. This in Boss Daley’s Chicago!

    The other finalist was also a Black woman, the incumbent County Board President (really County Executive.)

  223. @John Pepple
    @Jack D

    The developments you speak of in the Muslim world are, to use Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s expression, fragile. I’ve seen photos of women in Afghanistan in the 1960s wearing miniskirts, yet look at them now.

    As for Iran, I have heard it both ways. I’ve heard that everyone there is an atheist because they hate having religion rammed down their throats, but I’ve also heard the opposite, that most of them approve of the regime. I have no way of knowing. As for the current regime’s troubles, there are plenty of people here at Unz Review who think they are the result not of a grass roots uprising, but of Israeli manipulation. But even if the current regime gets overthrown, we don’t really know what will replace it. Back in 1979, I just assumed the Shah’s regime would be replaced by a secular and socialist entity, but after seeing what actually happened, I would not venture to predict what would emerge today.

    As for a possible Muslim majority in Dublin, keep in mind first that Islam is not an ethnicity but a religion and that people can convert to it at any time. (As I said before, converting away is very difficult.) So, the numbers of immigrants and their descendants are the bare minimum. Some non-Muslims will convert because they see Islam winning and they want to be with a winner. Some will convert (especially women) because it is more convenient for them to do so. Some will convert because they know it will stop all the theft that happens from Muslims in their neighborhoods. Some will convert because all their friends, relatives, and neighbors have done so. And some will convert because they are sick of the direction the West is moving.

    As for the nature of this Muslim takeover, there is nothing I’ve heard about Muslim enclaves in Europe that suggests that they are like Sarajevo.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Cato, @Nachum

    Here’s a simple metric to see what Iranians think: Compare the birthrate in 1979 to the birthrate today.

  224. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard
    Speaking of Madison, Wisconsin and hate hoaxes, I cannot find any up to date information on that fair city's number one hate hoaxer, Althea Berstein. It is like her online history just stops in 2020 after the police released their report saying "it is obvious these are self inflicted, superficial burns, but we can't say that for political reasons." I wonder what she is up to now.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Anonymous

    She was part of the crowd that tried to set fire to the Madison government building on the night of June 24, got splashed with burning fuel, and told this silly story to explain it away. The cops would have known right away what was up.

    OTOH, the perp who actually threw the fire bomb is now in prison, presumably after being identified by members of the crowd. This story would be a lot more aggravating if he was still at liberty. As it is however, it’s probably for the best that everybody forgets about her.

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