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From Marginal Revolution:

What should I ask Ken Burns?

by Tyler Cowen September 23, 2022 at 3:36 pm in Books Film History Television

I will be doing a Conversation with him…

Here are some questions I thought of:

Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?

Were they wrong to do so?

Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?

There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.

Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?

In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”

 
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  1. He’s too busy telling us how blacks invented country music to worry about these things.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • LOL: Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @James Braxton

    I think that's Steve's point.

    , @J1234
    @James Braxton


    He’s too busy telling us how blacks invented country music....
     
    [To the tune of Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire"]

    ....and it's Burns, Burns, Burns...the king of liars, the king of liars.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    , @bruce county
    @James Braxton

    Best comment.
    Fuck Ken Burns.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Mr. Grey
    @James Braxton

    I was surprised at how good his series on Country music was, only because I expected it to be shit. His best move was not bothering with much beyond the 1980's. His biggest error was not devoting an entire episode to Tammy Wynette and George Jones. Of course he inserted unknown modern black artists to comment on the great musicians of the past, but in his defence most of his audience are white liberals who need to hear it from a black woman to know it's true.

  2. How many illegal immigrants is Walpole taking care of?

  3. Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    [Comment for Rob:

    While I continue to vote "better and more interesting", typos/orthography is taking a dive. This comment, for example, makes several good points, but decoding it is especially laborious.

    Can the form be fixed while maintaining the substance?]

    Replies: @Rob

    , @Prester John
    @Rob

    Well, if (a big "if" of course) The Great and The Good are finally awakening to the fact that...uh...we have...ya know, like--a PROBLEM?--then the The Great Vinyahd Caper was worth it after all.

    , @bomag
    @Rob

    Good points: diversity is decreasing; genetic knowledge in plant and animal sciences has/is making substantial gains while the human world is going the other way.

    But Ken Burns has spent no time considering these issues. He will have nothing to say if asked.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Rob

    "after the ethnic cleansing of Martha's Vineyard"

    Martha's Vineyard is Arcadian rapture for Eastern Seaboard status seeking swells. They dream of ecstatic rites under the moon and to the tune of Pan's pipes in the clearing adjacent to the Obama compound. That's why DeSantis's political stunt was so successful. He bummed their bliss.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Rob

    Steve's just looking for something to do until the next crop of baby seals is available for culling.

  4. …but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census.”

    To fully appreciate the joys of diversity, you need to immerse yourself in the horror of living in an all-white town.

    • Agree: Renard
    • LOL: BB753, Liza
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Rob McX


    To fully appreciate the joys of diversity, you need to immerse yourself in the horror of living in an all-white town.
     
    As I once suggested for Burns's fellow Brroklyn born bullschitt artist (who also, inexplicably (LOL) moved to all-White New England), Bernie Sanders--a suitable title for his autobiography would be

    "From Brooklyn to Vermont--One Man's Quest For Diversity."
    , @Rooster16
    @Rob McX

    Like Stephen King. Although if he lived in a more diverse city, he’d probably have better writing material.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  5. How about:

    Is there any meaning to a nation’s history, when the nation’s people–the “posterity” of the people who made the history–are replaced by completely different people, with different cultures, norms and values, and who have no connection to and do not actually care about the prior people’s history?

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    , @Liza
    @AnotherDad


    are replaced by completely different people
     
    The nation's people (that's us) won't be around to ponder this question.

    As if all those nonwhites who'll be clawing at each other over the remnants of our once nice civilization are going to dig into history or its "meaning". Soon enough, most of them will be history, too: they hate us in unison now, but never stop to think what's going to happen once we are not around to put the brakes on their own sure-to-come conflicts. This will be one almighty war. Count on it.
    , @Moses
    @AnotherDad

    I dunno. How much do you know about Native American history, culture and heroes? There's your answer.

  6. @James Braxton
    He's too busy telling us how blacks invented country music to worry about these things.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J1234, @bruce county, @Mr. Grey

    I think that’s Steve’s point.

  7. I wonder if there’s a physiognomy peculiar to directors. Ken Burns, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Woody Allen, and Roman Polanski all look like instantiations of the same basic type. Short, shrimpy, febrile men with those curious, heart-shaped heads.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Default Director


    curious, heart-shaped heads
     
    My own forays in phrenology suggest that this indicates highly developed sensitivity and intellect on top of a stunted ability act upon the results of sensory input and intellectual conclusions, perhaps leading to the "compromise" result of constructing a representational world as a more pleasing image of the real one.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    , @Meretricious
    @Intelligent Dasein

    only 1 in the list is a balls-deep genius director (Polanski); the other genius is Allen (as writer)

    , @Ian Smith
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I think he looks more like Dave Barry, another Boomer whose shtick wore thin years ago.

    Replies: @BosTex, @RadicalCenter

  8. @James Braxton
    He's too busy telling us how blacks invented country music to worry about these things.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J1234, @bruce county, @Mr. Grey

    He’s too busy telling us how blacks invented country music….

    [To the tune of Johnny Cash’s “Ring of Fire”]

    ….and it’s Burns, Burns, Burns…the king of liars, the king of liars.

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

  9. Question for Burns and Sailer:

    Do Whites need to stand up more for themselves?

    • LOL: Renard
    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anonymous

    Ah, the most important question of our time, at least, in the West. Therefore, naturally, Steve will avoid it assiduously.

    My guess as why Steve avoids the question is that Steve is against whites (or any onr the myriad of white subgroups) viewing themselves as a distinct people, worthy of survival and requiring banding together to push back against our slow demise.

    However, Steve knows that his position is indefensible, so he avoids the topic.

  10. Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @SafeNow

    On the one hand, Burns' past work seems to revere America and its history, which is basically a conservative and traditionalist outlook. On the other hand, he is deeply immersed in that whole NPR/PBS culture of political correctness, which currently hates America, its historical white inhabitants, and their past achievements. So it's a little hard to pigeon hole his true sentiments as a person and historian.

    He usually sticks to safe topics, retold in a conventional way. But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @PhysicistDave, @anarchyst

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @SafeNow

    Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”

    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, "Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America's systemic racism."

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @aNewBanner
    @SafeNow

    My mother’s large extended family fled a Chicago suburb on the Southside to the four corners of the upper Midwest. They left too far late and lost the little capital that they had acquired. She is simply not equipped to discuss what happened and why due to decades of propaganda.

    Here’s the story that she would tell: Her father’s best friend was a black man who used to pick up trash with him in FDR’s presidency. The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly. The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind.

    It’s not entirely wrong, just vastly incomplete and moralizing.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    , @Stan Adams
    @SafeNow

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RHBPnmXBm0g

    , @MEH 0910
    @SafeNow

    https://history.nasa.gov/EP-125/part6.htm

  11. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

    SafeNow wrote:

    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.

    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor’s wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @PhysicistDave

    You write:


    Our neighbor’s wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.
     
    From your statement, it sounds like it's puting ( Yes, I know it's "putting", but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour's marriage. You've got to wonder how many marriages and relationships that this sort of thing has strained or destroyed. As iSteve regulars, we accept that women are on average more conformist - often, much more- than men, and much more likely to embrace DIE and all its works. So, you would expect men, on average, to be aware of the cognitive dissonance much more quickly, and want to leave for a safer place.
    If you - or any other commenters - have similar stories, I would be interested to hear them.

    PS It's puting, not Putin.
    But it would not surprise if the Sacramento Bee ran the following story.
    NEWSOM BLAMES CRIMEWAVE ON RUSSIAN AGENTS

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Prester John
    @PhysicistDave

    A cousin of mine lives in Port Hueneme (which is roughly between Santa Barb' and Malibu) in a nice neighborhood no more than a ten-minute walk from the beach. Nevertheless, cars have been stolen in her neighborhood and mailboxes have been broken into. That PH is only a few miles south of Oxnard (over 70% Hispanic) doesn't help of course. Several of their SoCal friends have thrown in the towel and have moved to Arizona, Tennessee, North Carolina etc. Bottom line: she and her husband want out of SoCal and are planning a move to the Texas Hill Country. They are not alone.

    , @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @PhysicistDave

    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    Arizona checking in, here. Fuck off, we're full.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @RadicalCenter

    , @E. Rekshun
    @PhysicistDave

    we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    No garage? Or is it jam packed w/ useless junk.

    The perpetrator is most likely the teenage son of one of those upper-middle-class professionals. You know, regression to the mean and all.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @kaganovitch
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    That's not the purpose of theft of old clunkers. They use them to commit various crimes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Nico, @Detroit Refugee

    , @Nico
    @PhysicistDave

    That blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics are the reason behind this potentially lethal headache is something >90% of American whites know, but which >90% of them won’t acknowledge in front of a camera because they understand the implications of ‘Borat’ and the lot of that poor BoA employee trying to defend her home and her neighbors against the Texas Pool Squatters. Conservatives will acknowledge it to someone they know and think they can trust. Centrists will acknowledge it to themselves but no one else. Liberals know it is true but when the thought enters their head immediately do some sort of penance ranging from self-flagellation of “white guilt” and explaining it away with “structural racism” narratives to engaging in miscegenation and/or volunteering for an anti-racist crusade.

  12. Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?

    Were the people they were moving away from immigrants?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Reality Cheque

    They were moving away from federal judges' school desegregation orders.

  13. @J1234
    @James Braxton


    He’s too busy telling us how blacks invented country music....
     
    [To the tune of Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire"]

    ....and it's Burns, Burns, Burns...the king of liars, the king of liars.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called “country music” in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms “blues,” and “country” didn’t exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites “hillbilly,” and then changed it to “country and western,” to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, “blues.” The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called “Music.” Just “Music.”

    I didn’t make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn’t even debatable.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @obwandiyag


    I assure you... I didn’t make this up... It isn’t even debatable.
     
    https://i.ibb.co/g7wfv3p/giphy-gif-cid-790b76119eba7122ca1331ae8bad191e69c354fd2ea408d6-rid-giphy.gif
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @obwandiyag

    You're wrong. White people invented BOTH kinds of music, Country AND Western.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-zEH8YmiM

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @obwandiyag

    Blacks also invented Emmons and Sho-Bud pedal steel guitars. Then some white guys ripped them off and got the patents and all the money though. E'rybody know dat.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Buddy+Cage+++history+of+pedal+steel+guitars&&view=detail&mid=1F60F52B2A083BE962AA1F60F52B2A083BE962AA&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBuddy%2BCage%2B%2B%2Bhistory%2Bof%2Bpedal%2Bsteel%2Bguitars%26FORM%3DHDRSC3


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4F5FOzgkXA&t=192s

    Replies: @J1234

    , @J1234
    @obwandiyag

    I never saw Burns documentary on country music because I'm not a fan of his. I just liked my ditty. As I said in my other comment, culture is synthesis.

    Anyway, "country music" means different things to different people. No question that early country music had black influence. All you have to do is compare Appalachian music to traditional Celtic music and you can tell the difference (most of it being rhythmic in nature. Syncopation.) Nevertheless, Appalachian music was obviously derivative of Celtic and British music in ways that it never was of african music. Just like country ham isn't a bunch of salt and hickory smoke with some pork added.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @obwandiyag

    Oy a windbag.

    There's not much truth in your little essay, but one thing is indisputably true and that is that all the uniquely American music of any worth came out of the former Confederate States of America.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @obwandiyag

    This note is mostly BS designed to assuage "oy a windbag's" white guilt, but history tells a different story. Blacks had their music. Whites had their music. There was some cross-pollination but the farther back you go, the less of it there was. Diversity, baby.

    In the summer of 1927, Ralph Peer and Ernest Van "Pops" Stoneman organized the Bristol Sessions in Bristol Tennessee/Virginia. The artists came from all over the Southern Appalachians, a mostly white area then and now. The artists were uniformly white, including Jimmie Rodgers (the Singing Brakeman), The Stoneman Family, Blind Alfred Reed, Alfred G. Karnes, The Carter Family with a young Mother Maybelle.

    The artists were 100% white. The music included traditional love songs (a la those written by Stephen Foster), bluegrass and Southern Gospel. None were influenced at all by black music. Listen to the "Orthophonic Joy" album and tell me that you can tell any blues influence.

    There were black slaves in the mountains of the Southern Appalachians, but not a lot of them. Plantation agriculture worked in the flatlands but not in the mountains where slaves were not widely owned.

    That's not to say blacks didn't influence mountain music. The banjo was imported with the blacks from Africa. The mountain music giant Dock Boggs claimed to have been heavily influenced by blacks.

    We aren't one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sessions

    Replies: @loveshumanity

  14. Mr. Burns, what action have you taken in the past 3 years to increase the diversity of Walpole?

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic
  15. Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.

    Everyone knows, on some level or another, that leftist, neo-lib, globohomo is a total failure and has made life a lot worse for 98% of people in it. The 2% at the top know it, too. And they love it. Burns is on their payroll.

    You’re like the angry leftist guy who hurled a drink at the chick-fil-a drive through girl. As if she has any say in chick-fil-a’s corporate political agenda. Are you ever going to address the “management” population that gives Burns money and status? No, I don’t reckon you will.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Realelliotpage


    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite!
     
    I don't think Steve is trying to destroy him. I think Steve is trying to turn him. (Perhaps embarrassment could be a part of that project.)

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Realelliotpage


    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.
     
    Don't be silly.

    Of course that is not Steve's intention, or Tyler Cowen's. And of course, Ken Burns will remain very rich, very liberal, and very much lionized by the PBS/NPR addicted crowd.

    But for those of us who pay attention, it will be quite entertaining to see Burns on the hot seat.

    It will lead to nothing, but we might as well be amused as the social fabric continues to become unraveled.
    , @Dnought
    @Realelliotpage

    Burns has a lot more agency than the "Chik-Fil-A drive through girl". It's not like making multi-part PBS documentaries is a minimum wage job and the man has no other choices but to make stuff that satisfies the "management" you allude to. He'd just have to give up being very rich and very celebrated, that's all.

    Replies: @Realelliotpage

  16. Who’s the GOAT…Roger, Novak or Rafa?

    Or other soft ball questions.

  17. “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories[of fleeing cities after the first big crime wave]?”

    With all due respect, I think national healing is no longer possible and I’m shocked that any well-informed person would think it is.

    A lot of non-leftists have woken up. The way the left in all levels of government, academia and the MSM fought Trump at every turn during his presidency, the peaceful protests, the 2020 election, Jan 6, the ongoing persecution of Trump now that he’s no longer president because Biden won (!)–all this opened a lot of eyes. Throw in the pandemic and runaway inflation and you have a serious loss of trust in the legitimacy of our government. Many people feel deeply, deeply betrayed.

    I’ve been a reactionary crank for years so you can’t go by me. But what I find shocking and saddening is that so many of my formerly cheerful conservative girlfriends are a lot more hard-core right-wing and a lot less cheerful than they were a few short years ago. It’s nice to have the company but sad to see them almost as bitter as I am about our country.

    They thought if enough conservatives woke up, we could turn things around. They thought it was about numbers and ethics. Increasingly they see the horrific damage the long march through our institutions has done. The left controls them all. The rule of law is now what the left says it is. Life becomes uglier, more dangerous and more absurd every day. There’s nothing Ken Burns can do to heal what ails us.

    • Agree: HammerJack, Renard
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Kylie

    "I think national healing is no longer possible and I’m shocked that any well-informed person would think it is."

    In order to have "national healing" you have to have a nation, which we no longer have, thanks to the ceaseless, tireless efforts of Our Best Friends Forever.

    What we have now is just a giant international parking lot/shopping mall/hotel lobby/battered women's shelter, which is being flooded day and night by more and more hostile grasping foreign looters cramming in at the speed of light.

    Somewhere the gleeful hand-rubbing has begun going so fast, they're starting to travel in time.

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Kylie

    Agree. And the stupid party will continue to do nothing.

  18. OT – This is a rumor. It may be bulls**t. But if it is true, it is big:

    Rumors of Military Coup in China claim Xi under house arrest…

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rumors-of-military-coup-in-china-claim-xi-under-house-arrest/

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Mr. Anon

    I will go check this out. I very much doubt this is true.

    It is an interesting twist that that current obvious coup target would be Putin, but that is not the rumor.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    I am seeing this called a Falun Gong stunt. It's China. If it's 100% true, we won't know until everything's tidied.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @Mr. Anon

    It's BS, also known in the trade as "clickbait".

    It's generated by the same globalist idiots that told us as a matter of absolute indisputable fact about Putin's horrible health problems, Shoigu's horrible health problems, that Putin had fired Shoigu, that Russia was running out of artillery shells, and all sorts of other wish-fufillments of the left.

  19. @Kylie
    "Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories[of fleeing cities after the first big crime wave]?"

    With all due respect, I think national healing is no longer possible and I'm shocked that any well-informed person would think it is.

    A lot of non-leftists have woken up. The way the left in all levels of government, academia and the MSM fought Trump at every turn during his presidency, the peaceful protests, the 2020 election, Jan 6, the ongoing persecution of Trump now that he's no longer president because Biden won (!)--all this opened a lot of eyes. Throw in the pandemic and runaway inflation and you have a serious loss of trust in the legitimacy of our government. Many people feel deeply, deeply betrayed.

    I've been a reactionary crank for years so you can't go by me. But what I find shocking and saddening is that so many of my formerly cheerful conservative girlfriends are a lot more hard-core right-wing and a lot less cheerful than they were a few short years ago. It's nice to have the company but sad to see them almost as bitter as I am about our country.

    They thought if enough conservatives woke up, we could turn things around. They thought it was about numbers and ethics. Increasingly they see the horrific damage the long march through our institutions has done. The left controls them all. The rule of law is now what the left says it is. Life becomes uglier, more dangerous and more absurd every day. There's nothing Ken Burns can do to heal what ails us.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @E. Rekshun

    “I think national healing is no longer possible and I’m shocked that any well-informed person would think it is.”

    In order to have “national healing” you have to have a nation, which we no longer have, thanks to the ceaseless, tireless efforts of Our Best Friends Forever.

    What we have now is just a giant international parking lot/shopping mall/hotel lobby/battered women’s shelter, which is being flooded day and night by more and more hostile grasping foreign looters cramming in at the speed of light.

    Somewhere the gleeful hand-rubbing has begun going so fast, they’re starting to travel in time.

  20. @AnotherDad
    How about:

    Is there any meaning to a nation's history, when the nation's people--the "posterity" of the people who made the history--are replaced by completely different people, with different cultures, norms and values, and who have no connection to and do not actually care about the prior people's history?

    Replies: @Polistra, @Liza, @Moses

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Polistra

    Inflation is always a proxy for 'the wages of the working class are too damn high' sooner or later that's what it becomes about.

    Replies: @BB753, @ic1000

    , @anon
    @Polistra

    Ackman is talking his book. Which is about as deep as he gets.

    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.

    Trade is potentially a good thing.

    “Under a system of perfectly free commerce, each country naturally devotes its capital and labour to such employments as are most beneficial to each. This pursuit of individual advantage is admirably connected with the universal good of the whole.”

    But there are trade offs.

    But it isn't too useful to discuss immigration and ignore the larger picture. Personally, I favor importing things rather than people. Especially things like textiles and garments which we have been importing forever. Low value goods.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Anonymous

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Polistra

    Curiously, he is only concerned about wage inflation, not price inflation, even though price inflation is obviously outrunning wage inflation, and is—slightly less obviously—the cause of wage inflation.

    "Billionaire hedge fund manager and Democrat donor"

    Hmm...

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Polistra

    Coming to the conclusion that these snakes should be murdered on sight by any man of good will. A commitment to altruistic punishment should be a foundational principle of whatever replaces our sad excuse for a society, along with a strong bias against SCALE.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Polistra

    '...Bill Ackman calls for more immigration to the US...'

    And...he's Jewish!

    (Hey: occasionally I'm wrong. It's pretty exciting.)

    , @HammerJack
    @Polistra

    Instead of two or three million per year, why not 20 or 30 million? Ack, we're still way behind Brother Yglesias. Better ramp it up a bit further.

    This "diluting the earning power of lower class Americans" thing is taking more time and effort than we'd like, but whatever.

    , @International Jew
    @Polistra

    Because immigrants produce but never consume, right?

  21. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    I assure you… I didn’t make this up… It isn’t even debatable.

  22. Here’s another:
    You understandably feel guilty about the history and treatment of the descendants of slaves in America. Yet you are also pro mass migration despite the fact that the descendants of slaves in America were undercut economically and opposed to the last great wave of immigration.

    Why are you in favor of the current one and do you believe there is some reason to suspect that somehow negative social and economic effects observed then and now do not exist?

    Do you believe that the descendants of slaves in America are wrong to feel aggrieved by mass migration?

  23. @Mr. Anon
    OT - This is a rumor. It may be bulls**t. But if it is true, it is big:

    Rumors of Military Coup in China claim Xi under house arrest…

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rumors-of-military-coup-in-china-claim-xi-under-house-arrest/
     

    Replies: @notsaying, @J.Ross, @Wade Hampton

    I will go check this out. I very much doubt this is true.

    It is an interesting twist that that current obvious coup target would be Putin, but that is not the rumor.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @notsaying

    I posted that last night. As of today - nada. Probably BS.

  24. Questions for Ken Burns

    There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them. [e.a.]

    Past Sailer post linking to an account (PDF) of interviews of former Bronx residents:

    The Push and Pull Dynamics of White Flight: A Study of the Bronx Between 1950 and 1980

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-push-and-pull-dynamics-of-white-flight-a-study-of-the-bronx-between-1950-and-1980

    Steve, given that Burns’ newly released project is The U.S. and the Holocaust, your questions are relevant to the U.S. and the Redline-o-caust.

    In 2019, you jokingly coined the (perhaps clunky) term “Redlineocaust”. But it really happened in Boston! With echoes of the Jew-on-Jew Golfocaust, too:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-redliningocaust-aoc-tells-tnc-new-deal-like-the-holocaust-requires-reparations/#comment-2781439 (#26)

    Here’s a link to an absorbing 2013 exploration from New York magazine on the how the destruction of the Bronx may have influenced Stanley Kubrick’s themes of recurring (lost) pasts and parallel timelines in The Shining:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-push-and-pull-dynamics-of-white-flight-a-study-of-the-bronx-between-1950-and-1980/#comment-4010810

    Excerpt from the article’s conclusion:

    There is almost no chance that Stanley Kubrick, then in the midst of preparing The Shining, did not know about what was happening in his old neighborhood. Even behind the stone walls of his Childwickbury Manor, he kept up with the New York media and events in his hometown. He couldn’t fail to notice stories about the Savage Skulls marching down Fox Street. How far-fetched is it to assume he was aware of the fire at P.S. 3, where he spent the most terrible of his pre-Graflex years? As a boy, he was a die-hard Yankees fan, sitting in the bleachers to be near his idol, Joe DiMaggio, whom he’d later photograph for Look. In 1999, the two sons of the Bronx would die within hours of each other. He was still a follower of the sport, so it made sense that Kubrick would have had no small interest in a ­Dodgers-Yankees World Series.

    Kubrick was gone before the terror started, but still, this was his world, these were his streets. Now they were being burned to ashes, one more bit of the past being gouged away, just the way the world of his forefathers had vanished from Europe—the hideous cycle of history spinning, a circle closing shut, one more mordant har-de-har of the human condition.

    Steve concludes to Ken Burns:

    In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary [e.a.] that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York …

    Ken had to escape the gaping maw of the National Cold Storage Company.

    National Cold Storage Company

    The National Cold Storage Company contains
    More things than you can dream of.
    Hard by the Brooklyn Bridge it stands
    In a litter of freight cars,
    Tugs to one side; the other, the traffic
    Of the Long Island Expressway.
    I myself have dropped into it in seven years
    Midnight tossings, plans for escape, the shakes.
    Add this to the national total–
    Grant’s tomb, the Civil War, Arlington,
    The young President dead.
    Above the warehouse and beneath the stars
    The poets creep on the harp of the Bridge.
    But see,
    They fall into the National Cold Storage Company
    One by one. The wind off the river is too cold,
    Or the times too rough, or the Bridge
    Is not a harp at all. Or maybe
    A monstrous birth inside the warehouse
    Must be fed by everything–ships, poems,
    Stars, all the years of our lives.

  25. The Dems are playing the upcoming elections like the pros they are, and the Republicans are helping as much as they can, like the chumps they are.

    Timing is near-perfect, as the economic collapse won’t hit its stride until after Nov 8th.

    These little stories are happening in state after state, and there’s going to be a nasty surprise for the troglodytes after the elections:

    An Arizona law that bans abortions in nearly all circumstances can again be enforced after a Pima County judge lifted an injunction that had left the pre-statehood law dormant for nearly five decades.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/23/arizona-ban-on-nearly-all-abortions-in-effect-judge-rules/8097102001/

    Democratic candidate for Arizona governor Katie Hobbs quickly condemned the ruling, while her Republican opponent, Kari Lake, remained silent.

    “This cruel law effectively outlaws abortion in Arizona — with no exceptions for rape or incest — and risks women’s fundamental freedom to make their own health care decisions,” Hobbs said in a statement. “I am terrified of the severe, life-threatening impacts this law will have on Arizonans, and I know many Arizonans feel this fear today, too.”

    This is the hill you’re going to die on, and abortion is one of the more trivial horrors they will be implementing next year. The USSC will be one of the first institutions they’ll revise. What will you do? Protest in the streets?

    Expected Interest Rate Hike Will Add $2 Trillion to the Deficit
    https://reason.com/2022/09/20/expected-interest-rate-hike-will-add-2-trillion-to-the-deficit/

    (I think they mean “the Debt” — nonetheless the story is full of golden quotes e.g.

    [MORE]

    “Sorry, deficit hawks: low interest rates are here to stay,” Alan Cole, a former senior economist with Congress’ Joint Economic Committee, titled a post on his Full Stack Economics blog in August 2021. “Countries, especially those that issue their own currency, can take advantage of low yields and borrow much more money at much lower rates than ever before,” he wrote, noting that low interest rates had persisted throughout the 2008 economic collapse and the first year-plus of the pandemic. “This is our new normal,” he argued, and market forces that might cause interest rates to return to levels seen in the 1990s were not likely “at least not in the next few decades.”

    Cole was hardly alone. Larry Summers and Jason Furman, top economic advisors to the Obama administration, published a paper in 2020 arguing that deficit concerns had hamstrung the federal government’s ability to accomplish big things. As long as the cost of serving the federal debt remains below 2 percent, they argued, policy makers should not be restrained by the “traditional ideas of a cyclically balanced budget”—the idea that borrowing should rise in bad times and subside in good. Jared Bernstein, then a senior fellow at the progressive Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and now a member of President Joe Biden’s White House Council of Economic Advisers, went a step further. In an October 2020 op-ed for The Washington Post, Bernstein argued that the “new dynamics” of debt opened not only economic opportunities but political ones. Democrats should embrace borrowing as a way to deliver for their constituents, Bernstein wrote, and disregard the politically motivated worries of the budget hawks.

    • Thanks: ic1000, Inverness
  26. Not entirely off point, I think:

    New Wizard of Oz remake will be unapologetically queer, director promises

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/09/22/wizard-of-oz-remake-kenya-barris/

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris said in a new interview with Variety magazine.

    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”

    Supposed to be less a remake of the 1939 classic Wizard than the later black version, THE WIZ.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Franz


    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”
     
    Does that mean the flying monkeys will have actual monkeypox?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Franz


    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now
     
    Making the con-man Wizard Donald Trump would be brilliant. I'd watch that, no matter what else they do to it.

    Replies: @njguy73

  27. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    You write:

    Our neighbor’s wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    From your statement, it sounds like it’s puting ( Yes, I know it’s “putting”, but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour’s marriage. You’ve got to wonder how many marriages and relationships that this sort of thing has strained or destroyed. As iSteve regulars, we accept that women are on average more conformist – often, much more- than men, and much more likely to embrace DIE and all its works. So, you would expect men, on average, to be aware of the cognitive dissonance much more quickly, and want to leave for a safer place.
    If you – or any other commenters – have similar stories, I would be interested to hear them.

    PS It’s puting, not Putin.
    But it would not surprise if the Sacramento Bee ran the following story.
    NEWSOM BLAMES CRIMEWAVE ON RUSSIAN AGENTS

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Verymuchalive

    Verymuchalive wrote to me:


    From your statement, it sounds like it’s puting ( Yes, I know it’s “putting”, but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour’s marriage.
     
    Well, the husband is a pretty laid back guy, on the whole; the wife is, as you might expect given her political ties, a lot more intense.

    She actually knows Governor Newsom fairly well, and I suggested to the husband that she should mention this to the governor. He responded that it was too small potatoes to interest the governor -- quite true... except that this is happening a countless number of times all across California.

    I don't think the husband (yet) sees this as a political issue. He is jut really, really sick and tired of having his vehicle broken into.

    He told us that, some years ago, he actually nailed a guy breaking into his vehicle back when he lived in San Francisco. He held the thug until the cops arrived, and the crook actually went to jail (I got the impression that this crook was well-known to the cops and they were looking for a chance to nail him).

    When the crook got out, as a condition of his probation, he was supposed to reimburse our neighbor for the damage he had done. He did not do so, and our neighbor refused to let it ride. So, the crook went back to jail for violating probation!

    Our neighbor grumpily complained that the cops nowadays say it is just not worth it since the DA will not even bother to prosecute.

    Of course, my wife and I pointed out that maybe the cops have a point and that the whole system in California is really broke.

    California used to be really nice.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

  28. OT The stereotype of Somalis (with Afghans and Haitians, one of the Three Nevers) as stupid and violent has been laid to rest. Now hopefully people will understand that Somalis are stupid, violent, and fraudulent. Somali boomers take $250M from federal fakeplague relief. There is no part of this system that functions properly.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/20/pandemic-fraud-food-children-doj/

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @J.Ross

    How'd you miss it, Mr. Ross? They're Not Making Minnesotans Like They Used to.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  29. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

    On the one hand, Burns’ past work seems to revere America and its history, which is basically a conservative and traditionalist outlook. On the other hand, he is deeply immersed in that whole NPR/PBS culture of political correctness, which currently hates America, its historical white inhabitants, and their past achievements. So it’s a little hard to pigeon hole his true sentiments as a person and historian.

    He usually sticks to safe topics, retold in a conventional way. But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hypnotoad666

    He's a cowardly liar. He knows beef burgers will sell and parasite burgers will not. So he sells beef burgers while cursing his customers, and he hopes hypocrisy works like subtracting negative numbers.

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypnotoad666 wrote to SafeNow:


    But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.
     
    I wonder if we are not letting them off too easy by calling them "globalist elitists."

    They are castrating children.

    They put a guy in the White House whose daughter claims that he showered with her when she was a kid.

    And the woman who is a heartbeat away "earned" her first political positions by sleeping with the Speaker of the California Assembly.

    It's like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the '60s.

    But, most importantly, they are castrating children.

    Replies: @Anon, @Verymuchalive, @vinteuil

    , @anarchyst
    @Hypnotoad666

    Most “documentaries” expose the biases of their authors. Ken Burns is no exception.
    Ken Burns “schlockumentaries” rank along with Michael Moore’s “schlockumentaries” in their one-sided biased presentations.
    Ken Burn’s “documentary” on the Vietnam war continually praised the North Vietnamese communists while denigrating the efforts of the South Vietnamese and American troops, purposely failing to note that the Vietnam war was a result of an invasion by the north, not a “civil-war”. Many North Vietnamese “voted with their feet” after partition in 1954 as they did not want to live under a communist government. Burns conveniently left that out of his documentary. He parroted the falsehood that the communist takeover was peaceful and that “re-education” camps for former South Vietnamese officials would last 6 months. He was wrong, as former South Vietnamese officials were imprisoned in “re-education” camps for as long as twenty years.
    Michael Moore did the same thing with his documentary on General Motors with “Roger and Me”. In fact, GMs Roger Smith offered Moore an interview but was rebuffed because any interview would have destroyed the whole false premise of the film.
    Moore did the same thing with his “schlockumentary” on health care, praising Cuba for having “universal health care”. What he failed to state was that “excellent health care” was only available to communist party officials and the “connected”, not the ordinary Cuban citizen. Ordinary Cuban citizens have to bring their own bed linens, pay for drugs, cannot get advanced treatments and receive a much lower level of health care than communist party officials or those who are “connected”.
    All documentaries must be treated with a grain of salt.

  30. @Mr. Anon
    OT - This is a rumor. It may be bulls**t. But if it is true, it is big:

    Rumors of Military Coup in China claim Xi under house arrest…

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rumors-of-military-coup-in-china-claim-xi-under-house-arrest/
     

    Replies: @notsaying, @J.Ross, @Wade Hampton

    I am seeing this called a Falun Gong stunt. It’s China. If it’s 100% true, we won’t know until everything’s tidied.

  31. @Franz
    Not entirely off point, I think:

    New Wizard of Oz remake will be unapologetically queer, director promises

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/09/22/wizard-of-oz-remake-kenya-barris/

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris said in a new interview with Variety magazine.

    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”
     
    Supposed to be less a remake of the 1939 classic Wizard than the later black version, THE WIZ.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Peter D. Bredon

    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”

    Does that mean the flying monkeys will have actual monkeypox?

    • LOL: Franz, Charon
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Hypnotoad666


    Does that mean the flying monkeys will have actual monkeypox?
     
    No. It means flying gay monkeys will fly out of the wizards butt.
  32. @Hypnotoad666
    @SafeNow

    On the one hand, Burns' past work seems to revere America and its history, which is basically a conservative and traditionalist outlook. On the other hand, he is deeply immersed in that whole NPR/PBS culture of political correctness, which currently hates America, its historical white inhabitants, and their past achievements. So it's a little hard to pigeon hole his true sentiments as a person and historian.

    He usually sticks to safe topics, retold in a conventional way. But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @PhysicistDave, @anarchyst

    He’s a cowardly liar. He knows beef burgers will sell and parasite burgers will not. So he sells beef burgers while cursing his customers, and he hopes hypocrisy works like subtracting negative numbers.

  33. German City shoots itself in the balls so the US doesn’t have to.
    But will anyway.

    In the name of promoting “diversity,” ruling Greens in the German the city of Hanover plan to ban a third of native citizens from applying for government jobs so they can be given to migrants.

    One wonders if they have decided which third of Germans will be banned. Any guesses?
    If Germany is still a thing in ten years it’ll be interesting to get the answer to” How’s that working out for you? It’s just one more reason why they’ve decided that they’ll have troops patrolling the streets starting on October 1st.

    And, of course, as goes Germany, so goes the West.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/germany-greens-plan-ban-native-germans-third-jobs-promote-diversity

  34. What are the chances a Confederate sympathizer like Shelby Foote could get back on PBS again?

  35. @Intelligent Dasein
    I wonder if there's a physiognomy peculiar to directors. Ken Burns, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Woody Allen, and Roman Polanski all look like instantiations of the same basic type. Short, shrimpy, febrile men with those curious, heart-shaped heads.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Almost Missouri, @Meretricious, @Ian Smith

    Scorsese’s I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6’2″ or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It’s remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Feryl

    Scorsese is overrated--yes, he's a slick director but ALL his films are written by someone else (he basically acts as script editor and gives himself cowriter credit), whereas writer/directors like Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, and the Coen brothers really are writers. Goodfellas may be a highly enjoyable mob film, but it's no cinematic masterpiece.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara

    , @Stan Adams
    @Feryl

    Who was the tallest director ever? Michael Crichton?

    Replies: @Feryl

    , @Dvnjbbgc
    @Feryl

    Most men are no taller than 6 feet, so your theory is worthless.

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Feryl


    these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.
     
    There's something to that, but in fact criminals, esp. "mobsters", aren't especially creative, or at least not that smart. They're lazy and dumb, so they can't get a real job, but they're "tough" so they use force and violence to get money. Karen Hill in Goodfellas says Henry and his pals "have more ambition" than just settling for a paycheck. LOL.

    Like bleks, they have poor impulse control and high time preference. Like bleks, they wind up in jail, or dead. (Think of Goodfellas or Godfather). No truly smart person would chose that life path.

    "Organized" crime came about only because of the Jews (Lansky, "Murder Inc." etc.)

    Replies: @Feryl

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Feryl

    The "smart" criminal is a media myth. Like the suave, hyper-intelligent sociopath: e.g., Hannibal Lecter. In a preface to a new edition of Silence of the Lambs, Harris admits he's been challenged on this, and claims he looked around and found one; but for reasons of confidentiality he can't reveal the name, so there.

    Replies: @Feryl, @David In TN

  36. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Inflation is always a proxy for ‘the wages of the working class are too damn high’ sooner or later that’s what it becomes about.

    • Agree: Renard
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Altai

    Inflation is good for zillionaires and banks, not so good for mere billionaires. After all, it's the way the federal reserve and fractional banking work: by increasing the supply of phony currency. A scam, of course.

    , @ic1000
    @Altai

    > "Doesn't it make more sense to moderate wage inflation with increased immigration than by raising rates holding working class wages steady?," the billionaire Wall Street Democrat tweeted

    Getting closer and closer to saying the quiet part out loud.

  37. @Altai
    @Polistra

    Inflation is always a proxy for 'the wages of the working class are too damn high' sooner or later that's what it becomes about.

    Replies: @BB753, @ic1000

    Inflation is good for zillionaires and banks, not so good for mere billionaires. After all, it’s the way the federal reserve and fractional banking work: by increasing the supply of phony currency. A scam, of course.

  38. I wouldn’t ask anything to Ken Burns. After all, you’re never gonna get an honest answer. I’m through with professional bullshitters.

  39. Well, we all know Ken Burns won’t answer these questions, much less make a documentary about White Flight. However, is there no reason some Conservative videographer couldn’t do it? How about you, iSteve?

    Keep some of that sad Burns-documentary-style music, interview a Conservative history professor, if you can find one, and keep in that “if I may”/”if you will” and “it was a different time, you understand” for amusement. I’d pay for it… somehow.

  40. @J.Ross
    OT The stereotype of Somalis (with Afghans and Haitians, one of the Three Nevers) as stupid and violent has been laid to rest. Now hopefully people will understand that Somalis are stupid, violent, and fraudulent. Somali boomers take $250M from federal fakeplague relief. There is no part of this system that functions properly.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/20/pandemic-fraud-food-children-doj/

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I am behind in my manufacturing of fetal heartbeats, it's never-ending, thankless work.

  41. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    You’re wrong. White people invented BOTH kinds of music, Country AND Western.

    • LOL: Bugg
    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I always think of this scene when talk of reparations for slavery come up. "Lets see, you boys agreed to play for $200...and you drank $350 worth of beer...."

  42. @Achmed E. Newman
    @J.Ross

    How'd you miss it, Mr. Ross? They're Not Making Minnesotans Like They Used to.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I am behind in my manufacturing of fetal heartbeats, it’s never-ending, thankless work.

    • LOL: EddieSpaghetti
  43. @Rob
    Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Prester John, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb, @Bill Jones

    [Comment for Rob:

    While I continue to vote “better and more interesting”, typos/orthography is taking a dive. This comment, for example, makes several good points, but decoding it is especially laborious.

    Can the form be fixed while maintaining the substance?]

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Almost Missouri

    Um, maybe? I’ll give it a shot.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  44. Country music wasn’t invented by anybody.

    It evolved out of Methodist, Episcopalian, and white and black Baptist churches.

    Likewise, the blues.

    In the case of both genres, same chordal and melodic structures as the Scots-Irish hymns. That three chord structure emerged from hymns.

    Go to a Methodist church, while some traditional, non-feminized, non-gayed ones still exist, and listen to the tent revival foot stompers in the great Wesley brothers hymnal, and you’ll see and hear what I’m saying.

  45. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Ackman is talking his book. Which is about as deep as he gets.

    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.

    Trade is potentially a good thing.

    “Under a system of perfectly free commerce, each country naturally devotes its capital and labour to such employments as are most beneficial to each. This pursuit of individual advantage is admirably connected with the universal good of the whole.”

    But there are trade offs.

    But it isn’t too useful to discuss immigration and ignore the larger picture. Personally, I favor importing things rather than people. Especially things like textiles and garments which we have been importing forever. Low value goods.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    @anon

    "In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization."

    They implemented an inflationary move by annually running a deficit to maintain a global force for greed, part of which is spending billions on the USN's IndoPac fleet's Freedom of Navigation Ops to contain the USA's current mortal enemy of World Peace, China.

    Meanwhile, having eliminated many productive jobs in the USA, by allowing US corporations to build production facilities inside the US's mortal enemy China. No "Made in China" label is needed.

    EBT assistance is available for the jobless via government issued debit cards, funds which are transferred (via JP Morgan Chase, collecting a slice of every transaction) from government books to Walmart's books.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @anon


    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.
     
    And yet, inflation kept going.
  46. @Intelligent Dasein
    I wonder if there's a physiognomy peculiar to directors. Ken Burns, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Woody Allen, and Roman Polanski all look like instantiations of the same basic type. Short, shrimpy, febrile men with those curious, heart-shaped heads.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Almost Missouri, @Meretricious, @Ian Smith

    Default Director

    curious, heart-shaped heads

    My own forays in phrenology suggest that this indicates highly developed sensitivity and intellect on top of a stunted ability act upon the results of sensory input and intellectual conclusions, perhaps leading to the “compromise” result of constructing a representational world as a more pleasing image of the real one.

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Almost Missouri

    the “compromise” result of constructing a representational world as a more pleasing image of the real one.

    That's your basic recipe for creativity right there. The End.

  47. @Altai
    @Polistra

    Inflation is always a proxy for 'the wages of the working class are too damn high' sooner or later that's what it becomes about.

    Replies: @BB753, @ic1000

    > “Doesn’t it make more sense to moderate wage inflation with increased immigration than by raising rates holding working class wages steady?,” the billionaire Wall Street Democrat tweeted

    Getting closer and closer to saying the quiet part out loud.

  48. @Verymuchalive
    @PhysicistDave

    You write:


    Our neighbor’s wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.
     
    From your statement, it sounds like it's puting ( Yes, I know it's "putting", but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour's marriage. You've got to wonder how many marriages and relationships that this sort of thing has strained or destroyed. As iSteve regulars, we accept that women are on average more conformist - often, much more- than men, and much more likely to embrace DIE and all its works. So, you would expect men, on average, to be aware of the cognitive dissonance much more quickly, and want to leave for a safer place.
    If you - or any other commenters - have similar stories, I would be interested to hear them.

    PS It's puting, not Putin.
    But it would not surprise if the Sacramento Bee ran the following story.
    NEWSOM BLAMES CRIMEWAVE ON RUSSIAN AGENTS

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Verymuchalive wrote to me:

    From your statement, it sounds like it’s puting ( Yes, I know it’s “putting”, but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour’s marriage.

    Well, the husband is a pretty laid back guy, on the whole; the wife is, as you might expect given her political ties, a lot more intense.

    She actually knows Governor Newsom fairly well, and I suggested to the husband that she should mention this to the governor. He responded that it was too small potatoes to interest the governor — quite true… except that this is happening a countless number of times all across California.

    I don’t think the husband (yet) sees this as a political issue. He is jut really, really sick and tired of having his vehicle broken into.

    He told us that, some years ago, he actually nailed a guy breaking into his vehicle back when he lived in San Francisco. He held the thug until the cops arrived, and the crook actually went to jail (I got the impression that this crook was well-known to the cops and they were looking for a chance to nail him).

    When the crook got out, as a condition of his probation, he was supposed to reimburse our neighbor for the damage he had done. He did not do so, and our neighbor refused to let it ride. So, the crook went back to jail for violating probation!

    Our neighbor grumpily complained that the cops nowadays say it is just not worth it since the DA will not even bother to prosecute.

    Of course, my wife and I pointed out that maybe the cops have a point and that the whole system in California is really broke.

    California used to be really nice.

    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @PhysicistDave

    You write.
    I don’t think the husband (yet) sees this as a political issue.

    This is often the case. Like many commenters, it took me a long time to realise stuff like this is a political issue.

    Our neighbor grumpily complained that the cops nowadays say it is just not worth it since the DA will not even bother to prosecute.

    I hope you don't have a Soros-funded DA. That would explain a lot of things.

  49. @Realelliotpage
    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.

    Everyone knows, on some level or another, that leftist, neo-lib, globohomo is a total failure and has made life a lot worse for 98% of people in it. The 2% at the top know it, too. And they love it. Burns is on their payroll.

    You're like the angry leftist guy who hurled a drink at the chick-fil-a drive through girl. As if she has any say in chick-fil-a's corporate political agenda. Are you ever going to address the "management" population that gives Burns money and status? No, I don't reckon you will.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Dnought

    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite!

    I don’t think Steve is trying to destroy him. I think Steve is trying to turn him. (Perhaps embarrassment could be a part of that project.)

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Almost Missouri

    Then Steve is a fool.

  50. Question for Ken Burns

    As a connoisseur of American culture and history, you’re familiar with Steve Sailer’s opus. Between the two of you, who fields the higher number of invitations to A-List cocktail parties?

  51. @Hypnotoad666
    @SafeNow

    On the one hand, Burns' past work seems to revere America and its history, which is basically a conservative and traditionalist outlook. On the other hand, he is deeply immersed in that whole NPR/PBS culture of political correctness, which currently hates America, its historical white inhabitants, and their past achievements. So it's a little hard to pigeon hole his true sentiments as a person and historian.

    He usually sticks to safe topics, retold in a conventional way. But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @PhysicistDave, @anarchyst

    Hypnotoad666 wrote to SafeNow:

    But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    I wonder if we are not letting them off too easy by calling them “globalist elitists.”

    They are castrating children.

    They put a guy in the White House whose daughter claims that he showered with her when she was a kid.

    And the woman who is a heartbeat away “earned” her first political positions by sleeping with the Speaker of the California Assembly.

    It’s like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the ’60s.

    But, most importantly, they are castrating children.

    • Agree: BB753, Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Anon
    @PhysicistDave

    http://luisapiccarreta.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/archangel-St.-Michael.jpg
    Saint Michael Archangel,
    defend us in battle,
    be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil;
    may God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God, cast into hell
    Satan and all the evil spirits
    who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
    Amen.

    , @Verymuchalive
    @PhysicistDave

    You write.
    It’s like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the ’60s.

    Like Rosemary's Baby. Except, of course, life imitates art. Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old and escapes to France. He is not extradited, nor is he shunned by French society. He continues to make films and lots of money as if nothing of importance had happenned.

    If you are a member of the global elite, like Polanski, then you have almost complete immunity. The Government will suppress the evidence. If not, the MSM won't report it. If it is reported, you won't be charged - just ask Hunter Biden. If you are charged, then the charges will likely be watered down- the 2008 Jeffrey Epstein trial springs to mind. Finally, if there is a chance of serious conviction, you can flee to some safe haven or fake your own death.

    Polanski's escape to France was in 1977. Things are very much worse now.

    Replies: @Gordo

    , @vinteuil
    @PhysicistDave


    They are castrating children.
     
    Indeed they are.

    There are all sorts of more or less interesting arguments for & against the existence of God.

    But when it comes to the existence of the devil, there can be no serious question.
  52. In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”

    For Bernie Sanders:

    “In 1968 you were hard at work on your [civil rights movement bona fides], but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote [Stannard, Vermont], which is still [98.92]% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of ‘white flight?’”

    Similar questions could be asked of James M Loewen, Thom Hartmann, Ben & Jerry, and Barack and Michelle Obama, all of whom moved to lily-white New England towns.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar

    Good suggestions.

    I could add dozens of names of private citizens I know in real life to that list too, and I suspect I'm not alone in this.

    I would also add that in almost all cases, these people have become much more radically leftwing after executing their white supremacist escape-from-diversity strategy.

    , @Jack P
    @Reg Cæsar

    While the small towns in northern New England are lily white, the cities are changing. Both Burlington VT and Portland ME have had dramatic increases in violent crime this year. Burlington in particular has shootings now, while they were almost unheard of until three years ago. Portland has more shootings now too. And when they show who's been arrested, they don't really look like New Englanders.

  53. @Rob
    Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Prester John, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb, @Bill Jones

    Well, if (a big “if” of course) The Great and The Good are finally awakening to the fact that…uh…we have…ya know, like–a PROBLEM?–then the The Great Vinyahd Caper was worth it after all.

  54. @Intelligent Dasein
    I wonder if there's a physiognomy peculiar to directors. Ken Burns, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Woody Allen, and Roman Polanski all look like instantiations of the same basic type. Short, shrimpy, febrile men with those curious, heart-shaped heads.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Almost Missouri, @Meretricious, @Ian Smith

    only 1 in the list is a balls-deep genius director (Polanski); the other genius is Allen (as writer)

  55. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    A cousin of mine lives in Port Hueneme (which is roughly between Santa Barb’ and Malibu) in a nice neighborhood no more than a ten-minute walk from the beach. Nevertheless, cars have been stolen in her neighborhood and mailboxes have been broken into. That PH is only a few miles south of Oxnard (over 70% Hispanic) doesn’t help of course. Several of their SoCal friends have thrown in the towel and have moved to Arizona, Tennessee, North Carolina etc. Bottom line: she and her husband want out of SoCal and are planning a move to the Texas Hill Country. They are not alone.

  56. RE; the Central park Five; 4 of them made self-incriminating statements that placed themselves in various roles of hitting, holding down and fondling The Jogger. One made them unprompted in the patrol car, another in front of a black cop at the precinct who to that time had no idea what had happened to the jogger,and variously 4 made statements with parents or guardians present on video after being advised of their rights placing themselves at the scene. It was known at the time the DNA recovered from the jogger did not match the 5, but that by itself under NY is not exculpatory. Under NY state law, and in most jurisdictions, whet the 5 did is in fact acting in concert, which makes those persons as guilty as the person who physically completes the rape.Why do you accept the statements of Mattias Reyes, the guy who completed the act, as gospel? The man also raped his mother. The confession of the lunatic who did complete the rape does not exonerate “the 5”. Why did he disregard all this? Why did he disregard the statements of cops and district attorneys? These guys are guilty as sin. Are you proud of yourself? Did your “narrative” have a conclusion before you even started this elaborate lie of a documentary? Woudl you trust your grandchildren with any of the 5 for a sleepover?

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Bugg


    DNA recovered from the jogger did not match the 5.
     
    "DNA" was not really collected at the scene. In 1989, DNA collection was not really a thing. Besides, the crime scene was badly contaminated and compromised---the jogger was assaulted a little after 9 PM, and was not found until 3 or 4 hours later, covered in mud and (her) blood--and rain water. There was a light rain--she almost died from hypothermia in addition to her extensive images. "Touch DNA" was decades in the future, and even now they probably couldn't have gotten any other viable samples from anyone-the only perp DNA, from Reyes, as it turned out was his semen found in her vagina, and on her sock found nearby which Reyes wiped himself off with.

    All his DNA means is that he attacked her to, in addition to, not instead of, the others. I'm not sure if any of the groids stuck their schlong in her, but they admitted to digital penetration as well as using a stick--that penetration qualifies as rape legally.

    The likely scenario is that they beat and violated her and then left or were interrupted by Reyes coming along, and left. Reyes then dragged her further into the brush and did his thing.

    Google the Armstrong Report on the crime.

    Replies: @prosa123

  57. @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    Scorsese is overrated–yes, he’s a slick director but ALL his films are written by someone else (he basically acts as script editor and gives himself cowriter credit), whereas writer/directors like Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, and the Coen brothers really are writers. Goodfellas may be a highly enjoyable mob film, but it’s no cinematic masterpiece.

    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
    @Meretricious

    And don't forget the editor he always uses, and whoever it is does the music selection. If you press someone on why he's "great" the answer will be the editing and the use of time-appropriate pop music.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  58. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

    Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”

    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, “Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America’s systemic racism.”

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Harry Baldwin


    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, “Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America’s systemic racism.”
     
    For poetry, they're more likely to compose rap couplets.

    [Click MORE tag at own risk]



    https://twitter.com/NiggasinSpace/status/193944974524547072



    https://niggasin.space/



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLavEHYxCIk

    Replies: @Polistra

  59. @Rob
    Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Prester John, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb, @Bill Jones

    Good points: diversity is decreasing; genetic knowledge in plant and animal sciences has/is making substantial gains while the human world is going the other way.

    But Ken Burns has spent no time considering these issues. He will have nothing to say if asked.

  60. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    • Replies: @J1234
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    As far as steel guitar goes, the only thing blacks did was "rip off" the Hawaiians like everyone else. Culture is much more synthesis than piracy. I'm amazed at how difficult that is for many people to grasp.

  61. Moving to the ‘burbs is so much easier than organizing a final solution, no?

  62. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Curiously, he is only concerned about wage inflation, not price inflation, even though price inflation is obviously outrunning wage inflation, and is—slightly less obviously—the cause of wage inflation.

    “Billionaire hedge fund manager and Democrat donor”

    Hmm…

  63. The destruction of cohesive ethnic urban communities of the Italian/Irish/Polish sort are never decried by the left because the subsequent takeover by blacks later on enabled the re-colonization by hipster yuppies and real estate developers, who we all know are the right sort of people rather than those insular ethnic types who didn’t want to share their streets and schools with the left’s most treasured demographic.

    One of the less openly remarked upon effects of the flight of ethnic whites to the suburbs is that cities also lost groups of people that urban lower class blacks were actually afraid of, and the effect that had on moderating behavior. There are still pockets of Boston, Chicago and NY where the white ethnics make no bones about who/what will be tolerated in their neighborhoods, but it seems like most major American cities have totally lost that.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Arclight

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    Replies: @West reanimator, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @BosTex

  64. @Reg Cæsar

    In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”
     
    For Bernie Sanders:

    "In 1968 you were hard at work on your [civil rights movement bona fides], but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote [Stannard, Vermont], which is still [98.92]% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of 'white flight?'"


    Similar questions could be asked of James M Loewen, Thom Hartmann, Ben & Jerry, and Barack and Michelle Obama, all of whom moved to lily-white New England towns.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jack P

    Good suggestions.

    I could add dozens of names of private citizens I know in real life to that list too, and I suspect I’m not alone in this.

    I would also add that in almost all cases, these people have become much more radically leftwing after executing their white supremacist escape-from-diversity strategy.

  65. @Almost Missouri
    @Realelliotpage


    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite!
     
    I don't think Steve is trying to destroy him. I think Steve is trying to turn him. (Perhaps embarrassment could be a part of that project.)

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Then Steve is a fool.

  66. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Coming to the conclusion that these snakes should be murdered on sight by any man of good will. A commitment to altruistic punishment should be a foundational principle of whatever replaces our sad excuse for a society, along with a strong bias against SCALE.

  67. @AnotherDad
    How about:

    Is there any meaning to a nation's history, when the nation's people--the "posterity" of the people who made the history--are replaced by completely different people, with different cultures, norms and values, and who have no connection to and do not actually care about the prior people's history?

    Replies: @Polistra, @Liza, @Moses

    are replaced by completely different people

    The nation’s people (that’s us) won’t be around to ponder this question.

    As if all those nonwhites who’ll be clawing at each other over the remnants of our once nice civilization are going to dig into history or its “meaning”. Soon enough, most of them will be history, too: they hate us in unison now, but never stop to think what’s going to happen once we are not around to put the brakes on their own sure-to-come conflicts. This will be one almighty war. Count on it.

  68. Anon[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypnotoad666 wrote to SafeNow:


    But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.
     
    I wonder if we are not letting them off too easy by calling them "globalist elitists."

    They are castrating children.

    They put a guy in the White House whose daughter claims that he showered with her when she was a kid.

    And the woman who is a heartbeat away "earned" her first political positions by sleeping with the Speaker of the California Assembly.

    It's like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the '60s.

    But, most importantly, they are castrating children.

    Replies: @Anon, @Verymuchalive, @vinteuil


    Saint Michael Archangel,
    defend us in battle,
    be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil;
    may God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God, cast into hell
    Satan and all the evil spirits
    who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
    Amen.

  69. @Hypnotoad666
    @Franz


    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”
     
    Does that mean the flying monkeys will have actual monkeypox?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Does that mean the flying monkeys will have actual monkeypox?

    No. It means flying gay monkeys will fly out of the wizards butt.

  70. @Harry Baldwin
    @SafeNow

    Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”

    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, "Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America's systemic racism."

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, “Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America’s systemic racism.”

    For poetry, they’re more likely to compose rap couplets.

    [Click MORE tag at own risk]

    [MORE]

    https://niggasin.space/

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Almost Missouri

    Wtf is that and where did you find it??

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  71. Questions for Ken Burns:
    1. In light of the direct historical parallels that you have pointed out, should the US Air Force bomb the Martha’s Vineyard airport in order to interdict DeSantler’s shipments of victims to the camps on Cape Cod?
    2. Many Russians are now trying to flee the brutal Putler regime in order to escape military service. Are they unequivocally good as opponents of Putler, or unequivocally bad as Whites? If the former, is Walpole, MA preparing facilities to resettle them in?
    3. When will you admit that your entire body of work is merely derivative, and acknowledge the debt you owe to the African Americans who were the true inventors of photography and documentary filmmaking?
    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/smithsonian-black-photographers-history

  72. @Anonymous
    Question for Burns and Sailer:

    Do Whites need to stand up more for themselves?

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Ah, the most important question of our time, at least, in the West. Therefore, naturally, Steve will avoid it assiduously.

    My guess as why Steve avoids the question is that Steve is against whites (or any onr the myriad of white subgroups) viewing themselves as a distinct people, worthy of survival and requiring banding together to push back against our slow demise.

    However, Steve knows that his position is indefensible, so he avoids the topic.

  73. @Intelligent Dasein
    I wonder if there's a physiognomy peculiar to directors. Ken Burns, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Woody Allen, and Roman Polanski all look like instantiations of the same basic type. Short, shrimpy, febrile men with those curious, heart-shaped heads.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Almost Missouri, @Meretricious, @Ian Smith

    I think he looks more like Dave Barry, another Boomer whose shtick wore thin years ago.

    • Replies: @BosTex
    @Ian Smith

    I don’t like to judge folks without knowing them, but he does have a serious case of “gay pedo” face.

    Nevertheless, “The Civil War” was a really great documentary.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Ian Smith

    Dave Barry and PJ O’Rourke were unfunny and tiresome decades ago.

  74. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

    My mother’s large extended family fled a Chicago suburb on the Southside to the four corners of the upper Midwest. They left too far late and lost the little capital that they had acquired. She is simply not equipped to discuss what happened and why due to decades of propaganda.

    Here’s the story that she would tell: Her father’s best friend was a black man who used to pick up trash with him in FDR’s presidency. The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly. The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind.

    It’s not entirely wrong, just vastly incomplete and moralizing.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @aNewBanner


    Here’s the story that she would tell: Her father’s best friend was a black man who used to pick up trash with him in FDR’s presidency. The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly. The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind.
     
    "Her father’s best friend was a black man"
    Anyone over the age of three who thinks that they have a black best friend is farking delusional.

    The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly.
    There are no "fine, good" blacks-the first ones were, I assure you, cut from the same cloth as the others. Sounds like the "racists" were smart.

    The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind
    Hurr to the durr. Confirms that the "racists" were smart and your family was stupid--and hard cucking, to boot. I love a happy ending.

  75. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    Arizona checking in, here. Fuck off, we’re full.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    "Arizona checking in, here."

    I remember traveling to Canyon de Chelly with my drunk dad as the sun was setting. He wanted to see the place where they filmed MacKenna's Gold. With shadows growing the place got vibey and spooky. When the local Indians appeared across the streambed dad told me to hurry.

    "Fuck off, we're full."

    Gavin Newsom's Californian Air Resources Board has of late issued some stunningly dystopian decrees to achieve their totalitarian utopia. I figure I'm out of here in a couple of years. I like Oregon (despite the hilariously lunatic governor), or a spot outside of Spokane. But your unwelcoming missive has got me thinking: are the scorpions and sandstorms worth it just to spite you?

    Replies: @ForeverCARealist

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Who wants to live in shitty arizona.

    Replies: @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

  76. There needs to be a proper, public discussion about White flight and Black crime in America, with both parties present.

    I don’t think guys like Jared Taylor (or even Sailer, sorry) should be leading the discussion, but rather it should be between White and Black citizens, who both have their (understandably strong) opinions.

    Maybe most people can agree that the politics/activism is crazy, but both the feelings of Whites and Blacks make sense.

  77. Question for Ken Burns:

    When are you going to lose the dopey page boy haircut?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jim Don Bob

    Always thought the beard and haircut made Burns look like the bearded lady from a sideshow.

  78. “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?”

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Of course, wealthier people regardless of race sought to live in places where non wealthier people would not be a nuisance.

    “Were they wrong to do so?”

    It depends if the people moved out squarely because darker people moved in. It’s not necessarily a matter of being wrong, it’s just a matter of ignorance and being held hostage to their prejudices. In a similar fashion, as Eastern and Southern Europeans came to our shores in droves in the big cities in the early 1900s, a similar phenomenon occurred—these groups were kept out of desirable areas, or lived into places where WASPs once lived but then moved away.

    “Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?”

    This has been a continuous theme in American history. It’s called sequence occupancy. Look it up. Of course it matters HOW this gentrification is taking place. What tactics are being used?

    “There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.”

    That has been addressed. Perhaps not as recently, but normal educated people are aware of those reasons.

    “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?”

    Only if we are honest of the grift currently taking place within the GOP.

    “In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?””

    Of course. But it’s also a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic…if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people hsbe money.

    • Disagree: loveshumanity, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Corvinus

    You can dull an Occam's Razor and repair a Rolex with a sledgehammer and a lug wrench better than most any poster here.

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Corvinus

    Yet he claims to have moved to New Hampshire because rent was lower, not to be around wealthy people. If he wanted to be around wealthy people h should have stayed in New York instead of moving to a town with a much lower per capita income, and almost no millionaires.

    Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people. First of all he was not yet wealthy in 1979. Secondly , Walpole had no wealthy residents in 1980 and even today has only one wealthy resident.

    In point of fact almost all the towns in New York have more wealthy people than Walpole ,NH which has a per capital income of just $35,000, which is far lower than most towns in NY. So he certainly did not move to NH to be in a wealthy neighborhood. If he wanted to live in a wealthy neighborhood he would have moved to a wealthy town, not a town which lacks wealthy people.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @loveshumanity
    @Corvinus

    White flight happens because Whites are afraid of being preyed upon by Blacks. Even the poorest whites are better behaved than most blacks.

    , @rebel yell
    @Corvinus


    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.
     
    Cheaper land was available - feral blacks ruined large parts of the city making the remaining city real estate more expensive
    Better quality schools - feral blacks ruined the schools in the city.
    Escape from urban blight - feral blacks destroyed property. Feral blacks are urban blight.
    Etc. - that would be crime and murder, also caused by feral blacks.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @AceDeuce

  79. Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?

    It’s too bad such a documentary has never been done. Many of the people who lived through that are now no longer around to hear their stories. I was a child, and I can remember the sudden increase in crime in my big city Indianapolis neighborhood and my parents becoming fearful and moving away. Eight years after we left all the neighborhood stores had closed down. The exception was the Uptown theater where they had switched to showing blaxploitation movies. That theater is in the Eddie Murphy movie “Dolemite is My Name” which is set in Indianapolis in that seventies time period. There are no movies set eight years before that showing the Indianapolis black crime wave and white flight.

    The last couple of years have seen big increases in crime and that gives me a feeling of deja vu. The nearby pizza place started closing when the Sun went down because it was being robbed at night. Other stores have completely closed. My neighbor had his motorcycle stolen. I had the catalytic converter off my car stolen. The Afghanistan withdrawal reminded me of the Vietnam withdrawal. The sixties crime wave was followed by a lengthy inflationary period and that’s happening again too.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  80. I did enjoy Burns documentary on Jack Johnson, but making a film or a documentary on a successful book CAN’T be that hard to do so no great talent needed.

    People like Burns with their over the top worship of non whites never were around Blacks or Browns, doesn’t even matter if they lived in large diverse metropolitan areas like NYC or Chicago. Their daily dealings with Blacks was minimal at best. I think deep down these over the top cuckolds like Burns truly loathe and despise Blacks worse than the Grand Dragon of the KKK. Look at how tolerant all those Bostonians were when their precious kids had to be bused to “skoo” with Tyrone & Shaneequa in 1975. Most Black athletes will usually tell you that Boston is the most racist city to play in, not Charlotte, Atlanta, or Dallas. Go figure.

    Burns is a hypocrite, a front runner and a coward. He and others like him just go with what is fashionable at the moment.

  81. @Corvinus
    “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?”

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Of course, wealthier people regardless of race sought to live in places where non wealthier people would not be a nuisance.

    “Were they wrong to do so?”

    It depends if the people moved out squarely because darker people moved in. It’s not necessarily a matter of being wrong, it’s just a matter of ignorance and being held hostage to their prejudices. In a similar fashion, as Eastern and Southern Europeans came to our shores in droves in the big cities in the early 1900s, a similar phenomenon occurred—these groups were kept out of desirable areas, or lived into places where WASPs once lived but then moved away.

    “Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?”

    This has been a continuous theme in American history. It’s called sequence occupancy. Look it up. Of course it matters HOW this gentrification is taking place. What tactics are being used?

    “There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.”

    That has been addressed. Perhaps not as recently, but normal educated people are aware of those reasons.

    “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?”

    Only if we are honest of the grift currently taking place within the GOP.

    “In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?””

    Of course. But it’s also a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic…if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people hsbe money.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @loveshumanity, @rebel yell

    You can dull an Occam’s Razor and repair a Rolex with a sledgehammer and a lug wrench better than most any poster here.

  82. @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    Who was the tallest director ever? Michael Crichton?

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Stan Adams

    And Chrichton was smart, wholesome, and successful outside the creative realm.

  83. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

  84. @Corvinus
    “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?”

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Of course, wealthier people regardless of race sought to live in places where non wealthier people would not be a nuisance.

    “Were they wrong to do so?”

    It depends if the people moved out squarely because darker people moved in. It’s not necessarily a matter of being wrong, it’s just a matter of ignorance and being held hostage to their prejudices. In a similar fashion, as Eastern and Southern Europeans came to our shores in droves in the big cities in the early 1900s, a similar phenomenon occurred—these groups were kept out of desirable areas, or lived into places where WASPs once lived but then moved away.

    “Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?”

    This has been a continuous theme in American history. It’s called sequence occupancy. Look it up. Of course it matters HOW this gentrification is taking place. What tactics are being used?

    “There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.”

    That has been addressed. Perhaps not as recently, but normal educated people are aware of those reasons.

    “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?”

    Only if we are honest of the grift currently taking place within the GOP.

    “In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?””

    Of course. But it’s also a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic…if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people hsbe money.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @loveshumanity, @rebel yell

    Yet he claims to have moved to New Hampshire because rent was lower, not to be around wealthy people. If he wanted to be around wealthy people h should have stayed in New York instead of moving to a town with a much lower per capita income, and almost no millionaires.

    Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people. First of all he was not yet wealthy in 1979. Secondly , Walpole had no wealthy residents in 1980 and even today has only one wealthy resident.

    In point of fact almost all the towns in New York have more wealthy people than Walpole ,NH which has a per capital income of just $35,000, which is far lower than most towns in NY. So he certainly did not move to NH to be in a wealthy neighborhood. If he wanted to live in a wealthy neighborhood he would have moved to a wealthy town, not a town which lacks wealthy people.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    “ Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people”

    I never made that exact statement. Ken Burns initially moved to Walpole, New Hampshire, because it was affordable, allowing him to pour his resources into his films. Four decades later he has come to embrace its isolation, which allows him to work without distraction. “I used to say that the best professional decision I ever made was to move to Walpole”.

    Replies: @anon

  85. @Arclight
    The destruction of cohesive ethnic urban communities of the Italian/Irish/Polish sort are never decried by the left because the subsequent takeover by blacks later on enabled the re-colonization by hipster yuppies and real estate developers, who we all know are the right sort of people rather than those insular ethnic types who didn't want to share their streets and schools with the left's most treasured demographic.

    One of the less openly remarked upon effects of the flight of ethnic whites to the suburbs is that cities also lost groups of people that urban lower class blacks were actually afraid of, and the effect that had on moderating behavior. There are still pockets of Boston, Chicago and NY where the white ethnics make no bones about who/what will be tolerated in their neighborhoods, but it seems like most major American cities have totally lost that.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    • Replies: @West reanimator
    @Corvinus


    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,
     
    Whom is that fact inconvenient for?

    Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it's only different European Christians participating in it? Cool, so you agree that adding different races and religions to the mix would (and has) only made things worse, right?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Corvinus

    A couple of generations? How many generations have elapsed since the the post-WW II "enlightment" regarding White-Black relations in the US?

    , @BosTex
    @Corvinus

    I don’t know about this, at least for Boston, I would say this is a myth.

    I’ve done a ton of family history and what amazes me, pouring through a lot of the 19th century archives is how “diverse” a lot of these neighborhoods were.

    Certainly Irish and Italian, but a lot of English, Scottish (all from Nova Scotia), Germans, Swedes, Jews (usually identified as “Russian”) and every other European nationality.

    I was looking up an English forebear (from Nova Scotia) and he had a “Turk” listed as his next door neighbor.

    The other interesting fact is how quickly these nationalities seemed to marry one another.

  86. more like, hey Ken, what is your favorite album, and why is it Kind Of Blue, by Miles Davis. you know, the album that every extremely white guy, old negro culture worshipper thinks is so great? don’t you realize Miles Davis hated guys like you and literally wanted to kill them?

    the actual theme song for guys like Ken Burns:

  87. @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    Most men are no taller than 6 feet, so your theory is worthless.

    • Agree: Liza
  88. @Corvinus
    @Arclight

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    Replies: @West reanimator, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @BosTex

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    Whom is that fact inconvenient for?

    Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it? Cool, so you agree that adding different races and religions to the mix would (and has) only made things worse, right?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @West reanimator

    “Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it?“

    No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AceDeuce, @BB753

  89. @Corvinus
    “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?”

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Of course, wealthier people regardless of race sought to live in places where non wealthier people would not be a nuisance.

    “Were they wrong to do so?”

    It depends if the people moved out squarely because darker people moved in. It’s not necessarily a matter of being wrong, it’s just a matter of ignorance and being held hostage to their prejudices. In a similar fashion, as Eastern and Southern Europeans came to our shores in droves in the big cities in the early 1900s, a similar phenomenon occurred—these groups were kept out of desirable areas, or lived into places where WASPs once lived but then moved away.

    “Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?”

    This has been a continuous theme in American history. It’s called sequence occupancy. Look it up. Of course it matters HOW this gentrification is taking place. What tactics are being used?

    “There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.”

    That has been addressed. Perhaps not as recently, but normal educated people are aware of those reasons.

    “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?”

    Only if we are honest of the grift currently taking place within the GOP.

    “In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?””

    Of course. But it’s also a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic…if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people hsbe money.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @loveshumanity, @rebel yell

    White flight happens because Whites are afraid of being preyed upon by Blacks. Even the poorest whites are better behaved than most blacks.

  90. If documenting and publicly identifying the blatant hypocrisy of the Comrades actually changed their behavior, we would have very few real political problems.

    But instead they eat Hypocrisy-O’s for breakfast every morning and relish that sour/salty taste.

    And enjoy serving that to you as often as they can.

  91. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Corvinus

    Yet he claims to have moved to New Hampshire because rent was lower, not to be around wealthy people. If he wanted to be around wealthy people h should have stayed in New York instead of moving to a town with a much lower per capita income, and almost no millionaires.

    Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people. First of all he was not yet wealthy in 1979. Secondly , Walpole had no wealthy residents in 1980 and even today has only one wealthy resident.

    In point of fact almost all the towns in New York have more wealthy people than Walpole ,NH which has a per capital income of just $35,000, which is far lower than most towns in NY. So he certainly did not move to NH to be in a wealthy neighborhood. If he wanted to live in a wealthy neighborhood he would have moved to a wealthy town, not a town which lacks wealthy people.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “ Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people”

    I never made that exact statement. Ken Burns initially moved to Walpole, New Hampshire, because it was affordable, allowing him to pour his resources into his films. Four decades later he has come to embrace its isolation, which allows him to work without distraction. “I used to say that the best professional decision I ever made was to move to Walpole”.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Corvinus

    You actually did make this exact statement concerning Ken Burns moving to New Hampshire. You wrote - "But it’s a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live....if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people have money."

    Ken Burns did not move to New Hampshire to have wealthy neighbors. Nor was Mr. Burns wealthy when he relocated to New Hampshire. You stated that Ken Burns moving to NH was a clear example of a wealthy person moving to live among other wealthy people. He moved to New Hampshire to escape the diversity of New York. I don't blame him. Most whites would be better off if they followed the example of people like Ken Burns and relocated to New Hampshire or Maine to escape the encroaching diversity.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  92. Serious questions for Ken Burns.

    As a leftist (or as you might disingenuously describe yourself, a person who holds left-leaning beliefs) who also has a fondness and respect, if not a reverence, for various American traditional institutions, values and pastimes, are you aware of the cognitive dissonance of your belief system? That is, of your propensity to laud the very institutions of the recent past that you and your fellow leftists deliberately subvert and even seek to destroy? If so, would you ever seriously consider the tradition of honor and patriotism displayed in this clip in relation to your own life, beliefs and actions? And finally, is there any hope at all that you would reach the same conclusion Colonel Nicholson reached?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Kylie

    When Colonel Nicholson awakens from his self-delusion. It's difficult to imagine elfin Burns completing training and wearing the uniform of any armed service. Although Ken would make a fine LTJG knob-polisher for the CDRs, CAPTs, RDMLs, RADMs, and VADMs in the Antinous cult that's been lodged in the USN for many moons.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Corvinus
    @Kylie

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

  93. @Rob
    Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Prester John, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb, @Bill Jones

    “after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vineyard”

    Martha’s Vineyard is Arcadian rapture for Eastern Seaboard status seeking swells. They dream of ecstatic rites under the moon and to the tune of Pan’s pipes in the clearing adjacent to the Obama compound. That’s why DeSantis’s political stunt was so successful. He bummed their bliss.

    • Agree: Meretricious
  94. @Kylie
    Serious questions for Ken Burns.

    As a leftist (or as you might disingenuously describe yourself, a person who holds left-leaning beliefs) who also has a fondness and respect, if not a reverence, for various American traditional institutions, values and pastimes, are you aware of the cognitive dissonance of your belief system? That is, of your propensity to laud the very institutions of the recent past that you and your fellow leftists deliberately subvert and even seek to destroy? If so, would you ever seriously consider the tradition of honor and patriotism displayed in this clip in relation to your own life, beliefs and actions? And finally, is there any hope at all that you would reach the same conclusion Colonel Nicholson reached?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHVMi3LxZE&feature=share&si=ELPmzJkDCLju2KnD5oyZMQ

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Corvinus

    When Colonel Nicholson awakens from his self-delusion. It’s difficult to imagine elfin Burns completing training and wearing the uniform of any armed service. Although Ken would make a fine LTJG knob-polisher for the CDRs, CAPTs, RDMLs, RADMs, and VADMs in the Antinous cult that’s been lodged in the USN for many moons.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @SunBakedSuburb

    "When Colonel Nicholson awakens from his self-delusion. It’s difficult to imagine elfin Burns completing training and wearing the uniform of any armed service."

    Agreed, and difficult to imagine him doing anything honorable, whether he was in or out of uniform.

    But a girl can dream, right?

  95. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @obwandiyag

    Blacks also invented Emmons and Sho-Bud pedal steel guitars. Then some white guys ripped them off and got the patents and all the money though. E'rybody know dat.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Buddy+Cage+++history+of+pedal+steel+guitars&&view=detail&mid=1F60F52B2A083BE962AA1F60F52B2A083BE962AA&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBuddy%2BCage%2B%2B%2Bhistory%2Bof%2Bpedal%2Bsteel%2Bguitars%26FORM%3DHDRSC3


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4F5FOzgkXA&t=192s

    Replies: @J1234

    As far as steel guitar goes, the only thing blacks did was “rip off” the Hawaiians like everyone else. Culture is much more synthesis than piracy. I’m amazed at how difficult that is for many people to grasp.

  96. @PhysicistDave
    @Verymuchalive

    Verymuchalive wrote to me:


    From your statement, it sounds like it’s puting ( Yes, I know it’s “putting”, but puting is much more rational). stress on your neighbour’s marriage.
     
    Well, the husband is a pretty laid back guy, on the whole; the wife is, as you might expect given her political ties, a lot more intense.

    She actually knows Governor Newsom fairly well, and I suggested to the husband that she should mention this to the governor. He responded that it was too small potatoes to interest the governor -- quite true... except that this is happening a countless number of times all across California.

    I don't think the husband (yet) sees this as a political issue. He is jut really, really sick and tired of having his vehicle broken into.

    He told us that, some years ago, he actually nailed a guy breaking into his vehicle back when he lived in San Francisco. He held the thug until the cops arrived, and the crook actually went to jail (I got the impression that this crook was well-known to the cops and they were looking for a chance to nail him).

    When the crook got out, as a condition of his probation, he was supposed to reimburse our neighbor for the damage he had done. He did not do so, and our neighbor refused to let it ride. So, the crook went back to jail for violating probation!

    Our neighbor grumpily complained that the cops nowadays say it is just not worth it since the DA will not even bother to prosecute.

    Of course, my wife and I pointed out that maybe the cops have a point and that the whole system in California is really broke.

    California used to be really nice.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

    You write.
    I don’t think the husband (yet) sees this as a political issue.

    This is often the case. Like many commenters, it took me a long time to realise stuff like this is a political issue.

    Our neighbor grumpily complained that the cops nowadays say it is just not worth it since the DA will not even bother to prosecute.

    I hope you don’t have a Soros-funded DA. That would explain a lot of things.

  97. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @PhysicistDave

    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    Arizona checking in, here. Fuck off, we're full.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @RadicalCenter

    “Arizona checking in, here.”

    I remember traveling to Canyon de Chelly with my drunk dad as the sun was setting. He wanted to see the place where they filmed MacKenna’s Gold. With shadows growing the place got vibey and spooky. When the local Indians appeared across the streambed dad told me to hurry.

    “Fuck off, we’re full.”

    Gavin Newsom’s Californian Air Resources Board has of late issued some stunningly dystopian decrees to achieve their totalitarian utopia. I figure I’m out of here in a couple of years. I like Oregon (despite the hilariously lunatic governor), or a spot outside of Spokane. But your unwelcoming missive has got me thinking: are the scorpions and sandstorms worth it just to spite you?

    • Replies: @ForeverCARealist
    @SunBakedSuburb

    People living in harsh climates around the US love to be able to think, "I'm tougher than you."

    I'm okay with that.

    AZ's climate is only harsh if you have to work outside during the summer (all 7 months of it). There's solid reasons why there's so many retirement communities there. The Jews have colonized Scottsdale. Not a bad thing, BTW.

  98. @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Default Director


    curious, heart-shaped heads
     
    My own forays in phrenology suggest that this indicates highly developed sensitivity and intellect on top of a stunted ability act upon the results of sensory input and intellectual conclusions, perhaps leading to the "compromise" result of constructing a representational world as a more pleasing image of the real one.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    the “compromise” result of constructing a representational world as a more pleasing image of the real one.

    That’s your basic recipe for creativity right there. The End.

  99. @Rob McX

    ...but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census.”
     
    To fully appreciate the joys of diversity, you need to immerse yourself in the horror of living in an all-white town.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Rooster16

    To fully appreciate the joys of diversity, you need to immerse yourself in the horror of living in an all-white town.

    As I once suggested for Burns’s fellow Brroklyn born bullschitt artist (who also, inexplicably (LOL) moved to all-White New England), Bernie Sanders–a suitable title for his autobiography would be

    “From Brooklyn to Vermont–One Man’s Quest For Diversity.”

    • LOL: Rob McX, Liza
  100. I lived through the Boston School Desegregation crisis (1st grade was 1974; my wife always says: “weren’t you bothered by the blacks?” Never had a problem.)

    To this day: I do not know why, I am not particularly fearsome or brutal. I just never had a problem with them. For some reason, I was left in peace.

    I will tell you: in retrospect, this was the most totalitarian project I have witnessed. Shipping school children (little kids to travel hours on end!), hither and yon to achieve “racial balance”.

    One of our family friends (not born in the US, read a book about this event, his conclusion: “I cannot believe this happened here.”)

    Many/most whites quickly made an exit to private or parochial schools or their families left for the suburbs.

    It was truly sickening. Frankly, I have to think it was deliberate ethnic cleansing.

    I finally ended up in a private school 10-12 grade.

    The public schools were thoroughly dominated by the blacks at that point and, even if you “didn’t have a problem” the schools had been run to the very bottom with no discipline or learning available.

    Our neighborhood remained intact for a few more years (basically Irish American; we also had Vietnamese added to the mix: I will have to say that I like the Vietnamese—-hard working, family people, did their best to fit in. They are ok. If we have to take immigrants, we can do much worse than the Vietnamese people).

    Now I think the neighborhood is mostly Dominican. Which is just a disaster for all
    Concerned.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    @BosTex

    They still do it. All the kids at Brighton High School are black and all the white kids in Brighton go to private probably Catholic Schools.

    Replies: @BosTex

  101. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    I never saw Burns documentary on country music because I’m not a fan of his. I just liked my ditty. As I said in my other comment, culture is synthesis.

    Anyway, “country music” means different things to different people. No question that early country music had black influence. All you have to do is compare Appalachian music to traditional Celtic music and you can tell the difference (most of it being rhythmic in nature. Syncopation.) Nevertheless, Appalachian music was obviously derivative of Celtic and British music in ways that it never was of african music. Just like country ham isn’t a bunch of salt and hickory smoke with some pork added.

  102. @Kylie
    Serious questions for Ken Burns.

    As a leftist (or as you might disingenuously describe yourself, a person who holds left-leaning beliefs) who also has a fondness and respect, if not a reverence, for various American traditional institutions, values and pastimes, are you aware of the cognitive dissonance of your belief system? That is, of your propensity to laud the very institutions of the recent past that you and your fellow leftists deliberately subvert and even seek to destroy? If so, would you ever seriously consider the tradition of honor and patriotism displayed in this clip in relation to your own life, beliefs and actions? And finally, is there any hope at all that you would reach the same conclusion Colonel Nicholson reached?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHVMi3LxZE&feature=share&si=ELPmzJkDCLju2KnD5oyZMQ

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Corvinus

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus

    Ken Burns doesn't want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do.

    Yes, that's unquestionably patriotic. What he wants to destroy is any opportunity for the rest of us to express the same patriotic feeling in the same manner.

    How's the weather on the Vineyard? Walpole, N.H., by your own definition, is not "who we are".

    Jai Shri Ram.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Meretricious

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    My little buddy Benito Corvinus wrote to Kylie:


    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.
     
    No, Benito: we do not assume that. In certain situations, we conclude that.

    Big difference. Beyond your grade level, of course.

    For example, the abortion issue is so complex, that it is not that easy to find two people who have exactly the same position. That does not mean that, out of any two people, one is evil: it just means the issue is complex.

    On the other hand, Benito, they are castrating children.

    That is not a subtle, complicated issue.

    A simple character test: do you think that is a subtly complicated issue?

    If you do, that tells us all we need to know about your character.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  103. @Bugg
    RE; the Central park Five; 4 of them made self-incriminating statements that placed themselves in various roles of hitting, holding down and fondling The Jogger. One made them unprompted in the patrol car, another in front of a black cop at the precinct who to that time had no idea what had happened to the jogger,and variously 4 made statements with parents or guardians present on video after being advised of their rights placing themselves at the scene. It was known at the time the DNA recovered from the jogger did not match the 5, but that by itself under NY is not exculpatory. Under NY state law, and in most jurisdictions, whet the 5 did is in fact acting in concert, which makes those persons as guilty as the person who physically completes the rape.Why do you accept the statements of Mattias Reyes, the guy who completed the act, as gospel? The man also raped his mother. The confession of the lunatic who did complete the rape does not exonerate "the 5". Why did he disregard all this? Why did he disregard the statements of cops and district attorneys? These guys are guilty as sin. Are you proud of yourself? Did your "narrative" have a conclusion before you even started this elaborate lie of a documentary? Woudl you trust your grandchildren with any of the 5 for a sleepover?

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    DNA recovered from the jogger did not match the 5.

    “DNA” was not really collected at the scene. In 1989, DNA collection was not really a thing. Besides, the crime scene was badly contaminated and compromised—the jogger was assaulted a little after 9 PM, and was not found until 3 or 4 hours later, covered in mud and (her) blood–and rain water. There was a light rain–she almost died from hypothermia in addition to her extensive images. “Touch DNA” was decades in the future, and even now they probably couldn’t have gotten any other viable samples from anyone-the only perp DNA, from Reyes, as it turned out was his semen found in her vagina, and on her sock found nearby which Reyes wiped himself off with.

    All his DNA means is that he attacked her to, in addition to, not instead of, the others. I’m not sure if any of the groids stuck their schlong in her, but they admitted to digital penetration as well as using a stick–that penetration qualifies as rape legally.

    The likely scenario is that they beat and violated her and then left or were interrupted by Reyes coming along, and left. Reyes then dragged her further into the brush and did his thing.

    Google the Armstrong Report on the crime.

    • Agree: Bugg, David In TN
    • Replies: @prosa123
    @AceDeuce

    I have little doubt that Matias Reyes was the initial and probably only attacker in the Central Park Jogger attack. It's not just that he was a violent thug who later committed at least one murder. A few days earlier, a man grabbed a woman jogging in a different part of the Park and dragged her into the bushes. Before anything further could happen, the man was scared off by the sounds of people approaching.
    The woman immediately reported the attack, and was able to give the police a good description of her attacker. It included one very interesting detail - he had what appeared to be fresh stitches in his chin. The police checked with nearby hospitals and sure enough found that a man perfectly fitting the description had gotten stitches in his chin a day or two earlier. It was, of course, Matias Reyes.
    The woman left the country shortly thereafter, and Reyes more or less fell off the radar until he was caught raping a woman months later.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @TWS, @HammerJack

  104. @Corvinus
    @Kylie

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    Ken Burns doesn’t want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do.

    Yes, that’s unquestionably patriotic. What he wants to destroy is any opportunity for the rest of us to express the same patriotic feeling in the same manner.

    How’s the weather on the Vineyard? Walpole, N.H., by your own definition, is not “who we are”.

    Jai Shri Ram.

    • Thanks: J1234
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can't stomach his dishonesty.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    , @Meretricious
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Ken Burns doesn’t want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do."

    Bottom line, Ken Burns and his fellow social justice warriors believe in the fiction of Negro innocence for the purposes of their art or politics--but when it comes to where they reside or where their female child is educated, they know PRECISELY what the racial reality is. In other words, Ken Burns is a first-class "bullshit artist"

    Replies: @loveshumanity, @David In TN

  105. For people who are interested in racial discrimination, here’s a quick way to justify it.

    There’s a thing called the Law of Large Numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

    As we go through life, we meet many blacks (school, shopping, passing by bad neighborhoods, on the street, etc.). After a certain number of years, we can get a good representative sample and apply the LLN. Boom. You are justified in saying that Negroes are dumb and ugly.

    Same trick works with other groups (on other characteristics).

  106. @Rob
    Calling out people like Ken Burns is sort of a cultural equivalent of sending immivaders to blue resort/Eutopias. You can be Walpole either was not in the pot for Affirmatively Gurthering Fair Housing or the town got a nice coup,e of black lesbian artists or so some such.

    I’ve seen at least three pieces on illegal immigration on CNN after the ethnic cleansing of Martha’s Vinyard. I doubt it is coincidental. Maybe they just want it to look like the elite are taking the issue seriously in the Rut ups to the legislative elections?

    It seems that in responding to their choices of elite flight* homes, they would either have to concede that, yes, choosing your neighbors is a legitimate interest or that they themselves are unethical.

    * it seems that the underclasses of black, white, and Hispanics are very different from the diversity that elite places do have. There are very dark Hindus living in very nice places. But, integrating with new immigrants does not count. It does not integrate anyone already here, so it’s orthogonal to the problem, at best.

    Question for KenBurns. How about a documentary of all the black businesses that went under when legal segregation ended. Did losing the black middle+ classes hurt those left behind more than it enriched white areas with diversity.

    Another one: the US used to have lots of places with “thick, deep cultures.” People in small town and rural areas did not know a ton of people, but the ones they did know, they knew for decades. They knew multiple generations of lots of families. Not to mention, it used to be that lots of urban people had rural relatives or were from farms themselves. Has America lost something as people have less and less connection to the knowledge of agricultural breeding?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Prester John, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb, @Bill Jones

    Steve’s just looking for something to do until the next crop of baby seals is available for culling.

  107. Shorter Ken Burns: Pan, then zoom, then pan again.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @James Speaks

    Considering the masterfull treatment of the Steve Sailer Story, we (all y'all) could do a nice send up of white flight, complete with photos of The City Formerly Known As Detroit But Now Just Weeds And A Pile Of Bricks.

    Opening shot: Historical view of a Detroit neighborhood. (in sepia tones)
    Then: Morph to 2000 then to 2020, in full color.
    Then: Zoom in on a specific lot, now weeds.
    Then: Pan to a neighboring lot, now weeds.
    Finally, zoom in on a pile of bricks obscured by weeds.

    Voice Over: This was a great city once upon a time. Then the whites abandoned it.
    Why? Why? Why?

    In the distance a dog barks. A gunshot is heard.
    In the distance a dog is heard yelping. A gunshot is heard.

    Later, more gunfire. Later, even more gunfire.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

  108. My only question: was the hagiography of Buck O’Neil enough to satisfy Burns, or did it require an unnatural act, too?

    • Replies: @Hans
    @Brutusale

    LOL

  109. @Rob McX

    ...but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census.”
     
    To fully appreciate the joys of diversity, you need to immerse yourself in the horror of living in an all-white town.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Rooster16

    Like Stephen King. Although if he lived in a more diverse city, he’d probably have better writing material.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Rooster16

    It's harder to fault King, because Maine is where he was born and grew up.

  110. @SafeNow
    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, but I would do only a serviceable job. I am not a poet. Someone once commented it’s too bad they never sent a poet into space, because when the astronauts report back from space, they say things like “The view is amazing.”So a Burns documentary on this wouldn’t work because regular people are not poets.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @Hypnotoad666, @Harry Baldwin, @aNewBanner, @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910

  111. @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus

    Ken Burns doesn't want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do.

    Yes, that's unquestionably patriotic. What he wants to destroy is any opportunity for the rest of us to express the same patriotic feeling in the same manner.

    How's the weather on the Vineyard? Walpole, N.H., by your own definition, is not "who we are".

    Jai Shri Ram.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Meretricious

    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can’t stomach his dishonesty.

    • Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Kylie


    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.
     
    No matter where I comment, I always follow the principle that the blog owner is an OWNER, and he can do what he wants with the thing that he owns. If that includes allowing idiots to comment, I have no problem with it.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can’t stomach his dishonesty.
     
    I don't mind him particularly. I find his dishonesty highly revealing. It's good to smell the sewage from time to time just so you don't take indoor plumbing for granted.

    Replies: @Kylie

  112. Clearly Burns is a friend of darkies. They like him. He states he like to live where he lives for creative purposes. What’s live where we want. You’re making it more than what it needs to be. That’s undeniably unpatriotic.

    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Corvinus


    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.
     
    LOL and GTFO.

    "associate with whom you want with"? What language is that? Your grammar and thought processes are both terrible.
    , @loveshumanity
    @Corvinus

    Sort of torn on this... But basically I don't think it's racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    'I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty'

    You're so full of shit. I've lived in 'diverse' neighborhoods, too -- and quite tolerant ones. I know exactly what you're talking about.

    I had no problems with my neighbors. They just ignored me and I ignored them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  113. @James Speaks
    Shorter Ken Burns: Pan, then zoom, then pan again.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    Considering the masterfull treatment of the Steve Sailer Story, we (all y’all) could do a nice send up of white flight, complete with photos of The City Formerly Known As Detroit But Now Just Weeds And A Pile Of Bricks.

    Opening shot: Historical view of a Detroit neighborhood. (in sepia tones)
    Then: Morph to 2000 then to 2020, in full color.
    Then: Zoom in on a specific lot, now weeds.
    Then: Pan to a neighboring lot, now weeds.
    Finally, zoom in on a pile of bricks obscured by weeds.

    Voice Over: This was a great city once upon a time. Then the whites abandoned it.
    Why? Why? Why?

    In the distance a dog barks. A gunshot is heard.
    In the distance a dog is heard yelping. A gunshot is heard.

    Later, more gunfire. Later, even more gunfire.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
    @James Speaks

    That weed choked lot conceals more than a pile of bricks. You will find stained and bedbug infested mattresses (extremely well used btw), piles of trash, yard waste dumped by the folks that do clean up their property, and the occasional corpse.

    And the vibrant background noise of the D is complimented by non stop sirens.

  114. @Ian Smith
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I think he looks more like Dave Barry, another Boomer whose shtick wore thin years ago.

    Replies: @BosTex, @RadicalCenter

    I don’t like to judge folks without knowing them, but he does have a serious case of “gay pedo” face.

    Nevertheless, “The Civil War” was a really great documentary.

    • LOL: Meretricious
  115. @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    There’s something to that, but in fact criminals, esp. “mobsters”, aren’t especially creative, or at least not that smart. They’re lazy and dumb, so they can’t get a real job, but they’re “tough” so they use force and violence to get money. Karen Hill in Goodfellas says Henry and his pals “have more ambition” than just settling for a paycheck. LOL.

    Like bleks, they have poor impulse control and high time preference. Like bleks, they wind up in jail, or dead. (Think of Goodfellas or Godfather). No truly smart person would chose that life path.

    “Organized” crime came about only because of the Jews (Lansky, “Murder Inc.” etc.)

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @Feryl
    @James J. O'Meara

    I was saying that creative people, who usually aren't physically aggressive people, like writing movies about brute criminals as a fantasy for the things the creative types wish they could do. What highly creative people and criminals alike have in common is often feeling like outcasts from normie society.

  116. @Realelliotpage
    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.

    Everyone knows, on some level or another, that leftist, neo-lib, globohomo is a total failure and has made life a lot worse for 98% of people in it. The 2% at the top know it, too. And they love it. Burns is on their payroll.

    You're like the angry leftist guy who hurled a drink at the chick-fil-a drive through girl. As if she has any say in chick-fil-a's corporate political agenda. Are you ever going to address the "management" population that gives Burns money and status? No, I don't reckon you will.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Dnought

    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.

    Don’t be silly.

    Of course that is not Steve’s intention, or Tyler Cowen’s. And of course, Ken Burns will remain very rich, very liberal, and very much lionized by the PBS/NPR addicted crowd.

    But for those of us who pay attention, it will be quite entertaining to see Burns on the hot seat.

    It will lead to nothing, but we might as well be amused as the social fabric continues to become unraveled.

  117. @Meretricious
    @Feryl

    Scorsese is overrated--yes, he's a slick director but ALL his films are written by someone else (he basically acts as script editor and gives himself cowriter credit), whereas writer/directors like Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, and the Coen brothers really are writers. Goodfellas may be a highly enjoyable mob film, but it's no cinematic masterpiece.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara

    And don’t forget the editor he always uses, and whoever it is does the music selection. If you press someone on why he’s “great” the answer will be the editing and the use of time-appropriate pop music.

    • Thanks: Meretricious
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @James J. O'Meara

    Yes, I've had the feeling a couple of times during Scorsese films that I was watching a violent music video. Maybe during a couple of Tarantino films too (only seen three).

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  118. @Feryl
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Scorsese's I always thought was the most pathetic of those guys, I mean he obviously makes movies about Alpha Chads doing all the rough housing that he personally could never actually do with his tiny frame. Doing a basic Google search it turns out that most movie directors are no taller than 6 feet. Interesting. I think Steve has posited before that taller men tend to get too caught up in sports to become proficient musicians so they tend to be uncommon in rock groups (the likes of Soundgarden, where ever band member is 6'2" or taller, are an outlier). Perhaps other creative endeavors also have a dearth of tall guys. Also, I tend to think that these beta movie directors tend to love making movies about brute criminals* since these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.

    *It's remarkable how often movies portray criminals as sympathetic and charismatic figures.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Stan Adams, @Dvnjbbgc, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    The “smart” criminal is a media myth. Like the suave, hyper-intelligent sociopath: e.g., Hannibal Lecter. In a preface to a new edition of Silence of the Lambs, Harris admits he’s been challenged on this, and claims he looked around and found one; but for reasons of confidentiality he can’t reveal the name, so there.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @James J. O'Meara

    99% of smart sociopaths aren't violent, since violence is associated with low impulse control which is caused by low IQ. A handful of serial killers had IQs above 120, but the thing is, their social status is lower than it could be because let's face it, if you kill people multiple times you probably don't have the contentiousness be that successful. Gacy probably was the highest achieving serial killer, he ran a business well enough and was respected enough to run in the social circles of elites (Bundy had stints of respectability but he never really stuck with anything, passing thru quite a few jobs, areas, and relationships).

    , @David In TN
    @James J. O'Meara

    It's true the "smart criminal" is a media myth, or a creation of screenwriters and novelists. Another one is the "nice guy criminal." Someone once observed how in movies set in prisons, "There seem to be a lot of nice people in prisons."

  119. @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can't stomach his dishonesty.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.

    No matter where I comment, I always follow the principle that the blog owner is an OWNER, and he can do what he wants with the thing that he owns. If that includes allowing idiots to comment, I have no problem with it.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can’t stomach his dishonesty.

    I don’t mind him particularly. I find his dishonesty highly revealing. It’s good to smell the sewage from time to time just so you don’t take indoor plumbing for granted.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    "'@Kylie
    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.'

    No matter where I comment, I always follow the principle that the blog owner is an OWNER, and he can do what he wants with the thing that he owns. If that includes allowing idiots to comment, I have no problem with it."

    I do the same and certainly didn't mean to imply otherwise. My comment was an observation, not a criticism or complaint. Indeed, I haven't been comfortable with seeing commenters here complain about Steve's stance wrt COVID or the Russian/Ukrainian conflict. His house (blog), his rules.

    "I don’t mind him [dishonest commenter] particularly. I find his dishonesty highly revealing. It’s good to smell the sewage from time to time just so you don’t take indoor plumbing for granted."

    I can't agree with you there. But then, I'm not inclined to take anything for granted. I'd prefer not to get a whiff of the sewage here but as we agree, Steve's blog, Steve's rules.

  120. @Corvinus
    @Arclight

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    Replies: @West reanimator, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @BosTex

    A couple of generations? How many generations have elapsed since the the post-WW II “enlightment” regarding White-Black relations in the US?

  121. @Franz
    Not entirely off point, I think:

    New Wizard of Oz remake will be unapologetically queer, director promises

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/09/22/wizard-of-oz-remake-kenya-barris/

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris said in a new interview with Variety magazine.

    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ+ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world.”
     
    Supposed to be less a remake of the 1939 classic Wizard than the later black version, THE WIZ.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Peter D. Bredon

    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now

    Making the con-man Wizard Donald Trump would be brilliant. I’d watch that, no matter what else they do to it.

    • Agree: Franz
    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Peter D. Bredon

    "Making the con man in the Wizard of Oz Donald Trump"

    Mad magazine did a Wizard of Oz parody in 1990, and guess what the punchline was?

  122. @Corvinus
    @Arclight

    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,

    Replies: @West reanimator, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @BosTex

    I don’t know about this, at least for Boston, I would say this is a myth.

    I’ve done a ton of family history and what amazes me, pouring through a lot of the 19th century archives is how “diverse” a lot of these neighborhoods were.

    Certainly Irish and Italian, but a lot of English, Scottish (all from Nova Scotia), Germans, Swedes, Jews (usually identified as “Russian”) and every other European nationality.

    I was looking up an English forebear (from Nova Scotia) and he had a “Turk” listed as his next door neighbor.

    The other interesting fact is how quickly these nationalities seemed to marry one another.

  123. @notsaying
    @Mr. Anon

    I will go check this out. I very much doubt this is true.

    It is an interesting twist that that current obvious coup target would be Putin, but that is not the rumor.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I posted that last night. As of today – nada. Probably BS.

  124. @aNewBanner
    @SafeNow

    My mother’s large extended family fled a Chicago suburb on the Southside to the four corners of the upper Midwest. They left too far late and lost the little capital that they had acquired. She is simply not equipped to discuss what happened and why due to decades of propaganda.

    Here’s the story that she would tell: Her father’s best friend was a black man who used to pick up trash with him in FDR’s presidency. The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly. The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind.

    It’s not entirely wrong, just vastly incomplete and moralizing.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Here’s the story that she would tell: Her father’s best friend was a black man who used to pick up trash with him in FDR’s presidency. The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly. The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind.

    “Her father’s best friend was a black man”
    Anyone over the age of three who thinks that they have a black best friend is farking delusional.

    The first blacks on the block were fine, good people, but they scared a bunch of racists who sold out quickly.
    There are no “fine, good” blacks-the first ones were, I assure you, cut from the same cloth as the others. Sounds like the “racists” were smart.

    The next wave of blacks ruined everything. It was not safe, everyone left except my family, and we got left behind
    Hurr to the durr. Confirms that the “racists” were smart and your family was stupid–and hard cucking, to boot. I love a happy ending.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Troll: aNewBanner
  125. @Brutusale
    My only question: was the hagiography of Buck O'Neil enough to satisfy Burns, or did it require an unnatural act, too?

    Replies: @Hans

    LOL

  126. @Corvinus
    Clearly Burns is a friend of darkies. They like him. He states he like to live where he lives for creative purposes. What’s live where we want. You’re making it more than what it needs to be. That’s undeniably unpatriotic.

    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @loveshumanity, @Colin Wright

    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.

    LOL and GTFO.

    “associate with whom you want with”? What language is that? Your grammar and thought processes are both terrible.

  127. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    No garage? Or is it jam packed w/ useless junk.

    The perpetrator is most likely the teenage son of one of those upper-middle-class professionals. You know, regression to the mean and all.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @E. Rekshun

    E. Rekshun asked me:


    [Dave] we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    [ER] No garage? Or is it jam packed w/ useless junk.
     
    Our neighbor has three vehicles -- the homes in the neighborhood were built in the early '70s with two-car garages.

    ER also wrote:

    The perpetrator is most likely the teenage son of one of those upper-middle-class professionals. You know, regression to the mean and all.
     
    There is a huge "homeless" problem throughout California, so people are guessing it might be a homeless person or persons.

    But the fact that they tried to disassemble the steering wheel to hot-wire the vehicle suggests that these may be semi-professionals.
  128. @Kylie
    "Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories[of fleeing cities after the first big crime wave]?"

    With all due respect, I think national healing is no longer possible and I'm shocked that any well-informed person would think it is.

    A lot of non-leftists have woken up. The way the left in all levels of government, academia and the MSM fought Trump at every turn during his presidency, the peaceful protests, the 2020 election, Jan 6, the ongoing persecution of Trump now that he's no longer president because Biden won (!)--all this opened a lot of eyes. Throw in the pandemic and runaway inflation and you have a serious loss of trust in the legitimacy of our government. Many people feel deeply, deeply betrayed.

    I've been a reactionary crank for years so you can't go by me. But what I find shocking and saddening is that so many of my formerly cheerful conservative girlfriends are a lot more hard-core right-wing and a lot less cheerful than they were a few short years ago. It's nice to have the company but sad to see them almost as bitter as I am about our country.

    They thought if enough conservatives woke up, we could turn things around. They thought it was about numbers and ethics. Increasingly they see the horrific damage the long march through our institutions has done. The left controls them all. The rule of law is now what the left says it is. Life becomes uglier, more dangerous and more absurd every day. There's nothing Ken Burns can do to heal what ails us.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @E. Rekshun

    Agree. And the stupid party will continue to do nothing.

  129. @anon
    @Polistra

    Ackman is talking his book. Which is about as deep as he gets.

    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.

    Trade is potentially a good thing.

    “Under a system of perfectly free commerce, each country naturally devotes its capital and labour to such employments as are most beneficial to each. This pursuit of individual advantage is admirably connected with the universal good of the whole.”

    But there are trade offs.

    But it isn't too useful to discuss immigration and ignore the larger picture. Personally, I favor importing things rather than people. Especially things like textiles and garments which we have been importing forever. Low value goods.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Anonymous

    “In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.”

    They implemented an inflationary move by annually running a deficit to maintain a global force for greed, part of which is spending billions on the USN’s IndoPac fleet’s Freedom of Navigation Ops to contain the USA’s current mortal enemy of World Peace, China.

    Meanwhile, having eliminated many productive jobs in the USA, by allowing US corporations to build production facilities inside the US’s mortal enemy China. No “Made in China” label is needed.

    EBT assistance is available for the jobless via government issued debit cards, funds which are transferred (via JP Morgan Chase, collecting a slice of every transaction) from government books to Walmart’s books.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SaneClownPosse

    What point are you making here? Please distill it down.

  130. @Corvinus
    Clearly Burns is a friend of darkies. They like him. He states he like to live where he lives for creative purposes. What’s live where we want. You’re making it more than what it needs to be. That’s undeniably unpatriotic.

    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @loveshumanity, @Colin Wright

    Sort of torn on this… But basically I don’t think it’s racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @loveshumanity


    Sort of torn on this… But basically I don’t think it’s racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.
     
    That's what missions are for. Cf St Peter Claver, below. Burns's problem-- and ours with him-- is that he insists that we live among the people he won't.


    https://f7hnjran9v-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Peter-Claver-ministering-to-African-Slaves-in-Cartagena-by-Emanuel-Dite-1894.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  131. @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus

    Ken Burns doesn't want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do.

    Yes, that's unquestionably patriotic. What he wants to destroy is any opportunity for the rest of us to express the same patriotic feeling in the same manner.

    How's the weather on the Vineyard? Walpole, N.H., by your own definition, is not "who we are".

    Jai Shri Ram.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Meretricious

    “Ken Burns doesn’t want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do.”

    Bottom line, Ken Burns and his fellow social justice warriors believe in the fiction of Negro innocence for the purposes of their art or politics–but when it comes to where they reside or where their female child is educated, they know PRECISELY what the racial reality is. In other words, Ken Burns is a first-class “bullshit artist”

    • Replies: @loveshumanity
    @Meretricious

    Sorry, agreed with this based on the thread but I admit I don't know anything about Burns and I haven't seen any of his documentaries.

    , @David In TN
    @Meretricious

    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  132. @PhysicistDave
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypnotoad666 wrote to SafeNow:


    But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.
     
    I wonder if we are not letting them off too easy by calling them "globalist elitists."

    They are castrating children.

    They put a guy in the White House whose daughter claims that he showered with her when she was a kid.

    And the woman who is a heartbeat away "earned" her first political positions by sleeping with the Speaker of the California Assembly.

    It's like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the '60s.

    But, most importantly, they are castrating children.

    Replies: @Anon, @Verymuchalive, @vinteuil

    You write.
    It’s like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the ’60s.

    Like Rosemary’s Baby. Except, of course, life imitates art. Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old and escapes to France. He is not extradited, nor is he shunned by French society. He continues to make films and lots of money as if nothing of importance had happenned.

    If you are a member of the global elite, like Polanski, then you have almost complete immunity. The Government will suppress the evidence. If not, the MSM won’t report it. If it is reported, you won’t be charged – just ask Hunter Biden. If you are charged, then the charges will likely be watered down- the 2008 Jeffrey Epstein trial springs to mind. Finally, if there is a chance of serious conviction, you can flee to some safe haven or fake your own death.

    Polanski’s escape to France was in 1977. Things are very much worse now.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Verymuchalive


    Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old
     
    It was at least one 10 year old, and Hollywood still loves him.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

  133. Speaking as someone who was there, Whites did not move out. They were driven out. The PRs did it in their own neighborhoods also. How were they driven out? There is your story.

  134. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    “ Thus this is not an example of a wealthy man moving to a wealthy town to be around other wealthy people”

    I never made that exact statement. Ken Burns initially moved to Walpole, New Hampshire, because it was affordable, allowing him to pour his resources into his films. Four decades later he has come to embrace its isolation, which allows him to work without distraction. “I used to say that the best professional decision I ever made was to move to Walpole”.

    Replies: @anon

    You actually did make this exact statement concerning Ken Burns moving to New Hampshire. You wrote – “But it’s a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live….if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people have money.”

    Ken Burns did not move to New Hampshire to have wealthy neighbors. Nor was Mr. Burns wealthy when he relocated to New Hampshire. You stated that Ken Burns moving to NH was a clear example of a wealthy person moving to live among other wealthy people. He moved to New Hampshire to escape the diversity of New York. I don’t blame him. Most whites would be better off if they followed the example of people like Ken Burns and relocated to New Hampshire or Maine to escape the encroaching diversity.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    Most whites would be better off if they followed the example of people like Ken Burns and relocated to New Hampshire or Maine to escape the encroaching diversity...
     
    ...and were honest enough to admit it.

    Though, ironically, we did move out of the city for economic, not social, reasons. So, by corvine logic, we'd have the right to boast. But moral one-upmanship, i.e., spiritual pride, is a sin. (And evidently a trait found only in whites.) It is not a temptation, though.
  135. @Mr. Anon
    OT - This is a rumor. It may be bulls**t. But if it is true, it is big:

    Rumors of Military Coup in China claim Xi under house arrest…

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rumors-of-military-coup-in-china-claim-xi-under-house-arrest/
     

    Replies: @notsaying, @J.Ross, @Wade Hampton

    It’s BS, also known in the trade as “clickbait”.

    It’s generated by the same globalist idiots that told us as a matter of absolute indisputable fact about Putin’s horrible health problems, Shoigu’s horrible health problems, that Putin had fired Shoigu, that Russia was running out of artillery shells, and all sorts of other wish-fufillments of the left.

  136. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    Oy a windbag.

    There’s not much truth in your little essay, but one thing is indisputably true and that is that all the uniquely American music of any worth came out of the former Confederate States of America.

  137. It’s BS, also known in the trade as “clickbait”.

    I was suspicious of it because the rumors had Gordon Chang’s name attached to it. For whatever reason, I don’t trust that guy. Still, I thought it worth passing on.

    You are right though – it appears to be BS / Clickbait.

    Such coups are not inconceivable. It isn’t beyond the realm of possibility that insiders will oust Putin or Xi. But if it happens, one would do well to discount whatever reason for it is given by the MSM.

  138. @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Kylie


    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.
     
    No matter where I comment, I always follow the principle that the blog owner is an OWNER, and he can do what he wants with the thing that he owns. If that includes allowing idiots to comment, I have no problem with it.

    I appreciate your reply whether it was a general observation or made specifically on my behalf. I never reply to that commenter because I can’t stomach his dishonesty.
     
    I don't mind him particularly. I find his dishonesty highly revealing. It's good to smell the sewage from time to time just so you don't take indoor plumbing for granted.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “‘
    Thank you for replying to Exhibit A offered in evidence of the argument that Steve is essentially non-serious about his Comments section.’

    No matter where I comment, I always follow the principle that the blog owner is an OWNER, and he can do what he wants with the thing that he owns. If that includes allowing idiots to comment, I have no problem with it.”

    I do the same and certainly didn’t mean to imply otherwise. My comment was an observation, not a criticism or complaint. Indeed, I haven’t been comfortable with seeing commenters here complain about Steve’s stance wrt COVID or the Russian/Ukrainian conflict. His house (blog), his rules.

    “I don’t mind him [dishonest commenter] particularly. I find his dishonesty highly revealing. It’s good to smell the sewage from time to time just so you don’t take indoor plumbing for granted.”

    I can’t agree with you there. But then, I’m not inclined to take anything for granted. I’d prefer not to get a whiff of the sewage here but as we agree, Steve’s blog, Steve’s rules.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  139. @Hypnotoad666
    @SafeNow

    On the one hand, Burns' past work seems to revere America and its history, which is basically a conservative and traditionalist outlook. On the other hand, he is deeply immersed in that whole NPR/PBS culture of political correctness, which currently hates America, its historical white inhabitants, and their past achievements. So it's a little hard to pigeon hole his true sentiments as a person and historian.

    He usually sticks to safe topics, retold in a conventional way. But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @PhysicistDave, @anarchyst

    Most “documentaries” expose the biases of their authors. Ken Burns is no exception.
    Ken Burns “schlockumentaries” rank along with Michael Moore’s “schlockumentaries” in their one-sided biased presentations.
    Ken Burn’s “documentary” on the Vietnam war continually praised the North Vietnamese communists while denigrating the efforts of the South Vietnamese and American troops, purposely failing to note that the Vietnam war was a result of an invasion by the north, not a “civil-war”. Many North Vietnamese “voted with their feet” after partition in 1954 as they did not want to live under a communist government. Burns conveniently left that out of his documentary. He parroted the falsehood that the communist takeover was peaceful and that “re-education” camps for former South Vietnamese officials would last 6 months. He was wrong, as former South Vietnamese officials were imprisoned in “re-education” camps for as long as twenty years.
    Michael Moore did the same thing with his documentary on General Motors with “Roger and Me”. In fact, GMs Roger Smith offered Moore an interview but was rebuffed because any interview would have destroyed the whole false premise of the film.
    Moore did the same thing with his “schlockumentary” on health care, praising Cuba for having “universal health care”. What he failed to state was that “excellent health care” was only available to communist party officials and the “connected”, not the ordinary Cuban citizen. Ordinary Cuban citizens have to bring their own bed linens, pay for drugs, cannot get advanced treatments and receive a much lower level of health care than communist party officials or those who are “connected”.
    All documentaries must be treated with a grain of salt.

    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
  140. @Meretricious
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Ken Burns doesn’t want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do."

    Bottom line, Ken Burns and his fellow social justice warriors believe in the fiction of Negro innocence for the purposes of their art or politics--but when it comes to where they reside or where their female child is educated, they know PRECISELY what the racial reality is. In other words, Ken Burns is a first-class "bullshit artist"

    Replies: @loveshumanity, @David In TN

    Sorry, agreed with this based on the thread but I admit I don’t know anything about Burns and I haven’t seen any of his documentaries.

  141. @Rooster16
    @Rob McX

    Like Stephen King. Although if he lived in a more diverse city, he’d probably have better writing material.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    It’s harder to fault King, because Maine is where he was born and grew up.

  142. @AceDeuce
    @Bugg


    DNA recovered from the jogger did not match the 5.
     
    "DNA" was not really collected at the scene. In 1989, DNA collection was not really a thing. Besides, the crime scene was badly contaminated and compromised---the jogger was assaulted a little after 9 PM, and was not found until 3 or 4 hours later, covered in mud and (her) blood--and rain water. There was a light rain--she almost died from hypothermia in addition to her extensive images. "Touch DNA" was decades in the future, and even now they probably couldn't have gotten any other viable samples from anyone-the only perp DNA, from Reyes, as it turned out was his semen found in her vagina, and on her sock found nearby which Reyes wiped himself off with.

    All his DNA means is that he attacked her to, in addition to, not instead of, the others. I'm not sure if any of the groids stuck their schlong in her, but they admitted to digital penetration as well as using a stick--that penetration qualifies as rape legally.

    The likely scenario is that they beat and violated her and then left or were interrupted by Reyes coming along, and left. Reyes then dragged her further into the brush and did his thing.

    Google the Armstrong Report on the crime.

    Replies: @prosa123

    I have little doubt that Matias Reyes was the initial and probably only attacker in the Central Park Jogger attack. It’s not just that he was a violent thug who later committed at least one murder. A few days earlier, a man grabbed a woman jogging in a different part of the Park and dragged her into the bushes. Before anything further could happen, the man was scared off by the sounds of people approaching.
    The woman immediately reported the attack, and was able to give the police a good description of her attacker. It included one very interesting detail – he had what appeared to be fresh stitches in his chin. The police checked with nearby hospitals and sure enough found that a man perfectly fitting the description had gotten stitches in his chin a day or two earlier. It was, of course, Matias Reyes.
    The woman left the country shortly thereafter, and Reyes more or less fell off the radar until he was caught raping a woman months later.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @prosa123

    He was not the initial attacker. The consensus among police is that he attacked her after the CP5 did.

    Medical personnel who treated her as well as NYPD forensic people have stated, on record, that her injuries could not have been inflicted by only one person. The jogger says she believes so herself.

    , @TWS
    @prosa123

    So you're wrong about this too? Is it a contest with you.

    , @HammerJack
    @prosa123

    None of what you say supports your initial assertion. Obviously none of it refutes the assertion either, but none of it supports it.

  143. @obwandiyag
    @J1234

    He may not have explained it to your satisfaction.

    But I assure you, blacks and whites, together, invented what is now called "country music" in the rural countryside of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

    For your information, the terms "blues," and "country" didn't exist until record companies made them up for marketing reasons.

    At first, they called the rural folk music they sold to whites "hillbilly," and then changed it to "country and western," to give it more cachet.

    And they called the exact same music, that they sold to blacks, "blues." The exact same music.

    But to the common rural people, black and white, it was just called "Music." Just "Music."

    I didn't make this up. (Neither did Burns. He just over-simplified it so it makes no sense.) Musicologists have written thick books about it. Everybody who studies American folklore knows this fact. It isn't even debatable.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @J1234, @Wade Hampton, @Wade Hampton

    This note is mostly BS designed to assuage “oy a windbag’s” white guilt, but history tells a different story. Blacks had their music. Whites had their music. There was some cross-pollination but the farther back you go, the less of it there was. Diversity, baby.

    In the summer of 1927, Ralph Peer and Ernest Van “Pops” Stoneman organized the Bristol Sessions in Bristol Tennessee/Virginia. The artists came from all over the Southern Appalachians, a mostly white area then and now. The artists were uniformly white, including Jimmie Rodgers (the Singing Brakeman), The Stoneman Family, Blind Alfred Reed, Alfred G. Karnes, The Carter Family with a young Mother Maybelle.

    The artists were 100% white. The music included traditional love songs (a la those written by Stephen Foster), bluegrass and Southern Gospel. None were influenced at all by black music. Listen to the “Orthophonic Joy” album and tell me that you can tell any blues influence.

    There were black slaves in the mountains of the Southern Appalachians, but not a lot of them. Plantation agriculture worked in the flatlands but not in the mountains where slaves were not widely owned.

    That’s not to say blacks didn’t influence mountain music. The banjo was imported with the blacks from Africa. The mountain music giant Dock Boggs claimed to have been heavily influenced by blacks.

    We aren’t one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sessions

    • Replies: @loveshumanity
    @Wade Hampton

    Point taken about the downsides of diversity. It's something I'm well aware of.


    We aren’t one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.
     
    That's fine, and families and individuals can do what they want, but in general I don't think there should be a stigma for who people breed with or be friends with. Just my opinion.

    Replies: @Nico

  144. @Achmed E. Newman
    @obwandiyag

    You're wrong. White people invented BOTH kinds of music, Country AND Western.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-zEH8YmiM

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    I always think of this scene when talk of reparations for slavery come up. “Lets see, you boys agreed to play for $200…and you drank $350 worth of beer….”

  145. @prosa123
    @AceDeuce

    I have little doubt that Matias Reyes was the initial and probably only attacker in the Central Park Jogger attack. It's not just that he was a violent thug who later committed at least one murder. A few days earlier, a man grabbed a woman jogging in a different part of the Park and dragged her into the bushes. Before anything further could happen, the man was scared off by the sounds of people approaching.
    The woman immediately reported the attack, and was able to give the police a good description of her attacker. It included one very interesting detail - he had what appeared to be fresh stitches in his chin. The police checked with nearby hospitals and sure enough found that a man perfectly fitting the description had gotten stitches in his chin a day or two earlier. It was, of course, Matias Reyes.
    The woman left the country shortly thereafter, and Reyes more or less fell off the radar until he was caught raping a woman months later.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @TWS, @HammerJack

    He was not the initial attacker. The consensus among police is that he attacked her after the CP5 did.

    Medical personnel who treated her as well as NYPD forensic people have stated, on record, that her injuries could not have been inflicted by only one person. The jogger says she believes so herself.

  146. @Wade Hampton
    @obwandiyag

    This note is mostly BS designed to assuage "oy a windbag's" white guilt, but history tells a different story. Blacks had their music. Whites had their music. There was some cross-pollination but the farther back you go, the less of it there was. Diversity, baby.

    In the summer of 1927, Ralph Peer and Ernest Van "Pops" Stoneman organized the Bristol Sessions in Bristol Tennessee/Virginia. The artists came from all over the Southern Appalachians, a mostly white area then and now. The artists were uniformly white, including Jimmie Rodgers (the Singing Brakeman), The Stoneman Family, Blind Alfred Reed, Alfred G. Karnes, The Carter Family with a young Mother Maybelle.

    The artists were 100% white. The music included traditional love songs (a la those written by Stephen Foster), bluegrass and Southern Gospel. None were influenced at all by black music. Listen to the "Orthophonic Joy" album and tell me that you can tell any blues influence.

    There were black slaves in the mountains of the Southern Appalachians, but not a lot of them. Plantation agriculture worked in the flatlands but not in the mountains where slaves were not widely owned.

    That's not to say blacks didn't influence mountain music. The banjo was imported with the blacks from Africa. The mountain music giant Dock Boggs claimed to have been heavily influenced by blacks.

    We aren't one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sessions

    Replies: @loveshumanity

    Point taken about the downsides of diversity. It’s something I’m well aware of.

    We aren’t one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.

    That’s fine, and families and individuals can do what they want, but in general I don’t think there should be a stigma for who people breed with or be friends with. Just my opinion.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @loveshumanity


    I don’t think there should be a stigma for who people breed with or be friends with.
     
    If said people and their scion never left the gates of their own property maybe I’d be less inclined to worry about what my neighbors were doing. In real life, we all have to live with the consequences of “individual” associated choices. Communities are imposed (by complex natural processes and accidents), not chosen, and the extent to which a specimen is able to “choose” ad hoc his associations is directly correlated to his alienation from any sort of community at all.
  147. @Almost Missouri
    @Harry Baldwin


    Instead of saying something mundane like “The view is amazing,” our recent poet laureates would say something like, “Even from 200 miles in space, I could sense America’s systemic racism.”
     
    For poetry, they're more likely to compose rap couplets.

    [Click MORE tag at own risk]



    https://twitter.com/NiggasinSpace/status/193944974524547072



    https://niggasin.space/



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLavEHYxCIk

    Replies: @Polistra

    Wtf is that and where did you find it??

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Polistra


    Wtf is that
     
    A pre-purge Tweet from what was probably a parody account run by a white teenager, an online forum, and a short movie that—judging by the YouTube comments—is apparently regarded by the shirtlifting communitay as the second coming of the Stonewall Riots.

    where did you find it?
     
    On the theme that modern "poets" produce rap-like crap and would continue to do so even if given a lift into space, I was looking for something like a complement to Gil Scott-Heron's "Whitey on the Moon", but instead of it complaining about Whitey being up on the moon while Blackie is stuck in the ghetto, it would exult that Blackie is now in space. So I googled something like "niggas in space" and ... well, you see the results.

    As a sidenote I could point out that Google and YouTube continue to maintain and promote all those things, while ruthlessly censoring any doubts about the efficacy of modern vaccines, recent election integrity, or the absolute certainty of global weather Armageddon. I could ... but why bother? The right already knows about the facially illegal hypocrisy, and the left doesn't care.

    I guess that's why no one even bothers arguing about Section 230 anymore.

  148. @Jim Don Bob
    Question for Ken Burns:

    When are you going to lose the dopey page boy haircut?

    Replies: @Anon

    Always thought the beard and haircut made Burns look like the bearded lady from a sideshow.

  149. Two questions for Ken Burns:

    Which Black female celebrity would you sleep with?

    Do you think you might ever make a documentary that challenges liberal establishment orthodoxy or will you stick to your successful formula of playing it safe?

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
  150. @prosa123
    @AceDeuce

    I have little doubt that Matias Reyes was the initial and probably only attacker in the Central Park Jogger attack. It's not just that he was a violent thug who later committed at least one murder. A few days earlier, a man grabbed a woman jogging in a different part of the Park and dragged her into the bushes. Before anything further could happen, the man was scared off by the sounds of people approaching.
    The woman immediately reported the attack, and was able to give the police a good description of her attacker. It included one very interesting detail - he had what appeared to be fresh stitches in his chin. The police checked with nearby hospitals and sure enough found that a man perfectly fitting the description had gotten stitches in his chin a day or two earlier. It was, of course, Matias Reyes.
    The woman left the country shortly thereafter, and Reyes more or less fell off the radar until he was caught raping a woman months later.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @TWS, @HammerJack

    So you’re wrong about this too? Is it a contest with you.

  151. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    ‘…Bill Ackman calls for more immigration to the US…’

    And…he’s Jewish!

    (Hey: occasionally I’m wrong. It’s pretty exciting.)

  152. @Stan Adams
    @Feryl

    Who was the tallest director ever? Michael Crichton?

    Replies: @Feryl

    And Chrichton was smart, wholesome, and successful outside the creative realm.

  153. @James J. O'Meara
    @Feryl


    these characters are misfits like most highly creative people, however unlike beta creatives they have some measure of physical capability and toughness.
     
    There's something to that, but in fact criminals, esp. "mobsters", aren't especially creative, or at least not that smart. They're lazy and dumb, so they can't get a real job, but they're "tough" so they use force and violence to get money. Karen Hill in Goodfellas says Henry and his pals "have more ambition" than just settling for a paycheck. LOL.

    Like bleks, they have poor impulse control and high time preference. Like bleks, they wind up in jail, or dead. (Think of Goodfellas or Godfather). No truly smart person would chose that life path.

    "Organized" crime came about only because of the Jews (Lansky, "Murder Inc." etc.)

    Replies: @Feryl

    I was saying that creative people, who usually aren’t physically aggressive people, like writing movies about brute criminals as a fantasy for the things the creative types wish they could do. What highly creative people and criminals alike have in common is often feeling like outcasts from normie society.

  154. @James J. O'Meara
    @Feryl

    The "smart" criminal is a media myth. Like the suave, hyper-intelligent sociopath: e.g., Hannibal Lecter. In a preface to a new edition of Silence of the Lambs, Harris admits he's been challenged on this, and claims he looked around and found one; but for reasons of confidentiality he can't reveal the name, so there.

    Replies: @Feryl, @David In TN

    99% of smart sociopaths aren’t violent, since violence is associated with low impulse control which is caused by low IQ. A handful of serial killers had IQs above 120, but the thing is, their social status is lower than it could be because let’s face it, if you kill people multiple times you probably don’t have the contentiousness be that successful. Gacy probably was the highest achieving serial killer, he ran a business well enough and was respected enough to run in the social circles of elites (Bundy had stints of respectability but he never really stuck with anything, passing thru quite a few jobs, areas, and relationships).

  155. @prosa123
    @AceDeuce

    I have little doubt that Matias Reyes was the initial and probably only attacker in the Central Park Jogger attack. It's not just that he was a violent thug who later committed at least one murder. A few days earlier, a man grabbed a woman jogging in a different part of the Park and dragged her into the bushes. Before anything further could happen, the man was scared off by the sounds of people approaching.
    The woman immediately reported the attack, and was able to give the police a good description of her attacker. It included one very interesting detail - he had what appeared to be fresh stitches in his chin. The police checked with nearby hospitals and sure enough found that a man perfectly fitting the description had gotten stitches in his chin a day or two earlier. It was, of course, Matias Reyes.
    The woman left the country shortly thereafter, and Reyes more or less fell off the radar until he was caught raping a woman months later.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @TWS, @HammerJack

    None of what you say supports your initial assertion. Obviously none of it refutes the assertion either, but none of it supports it.

  156. @PhysicistDave
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypnotoad666 wrote to SafeNow:


    But if he ever wanted to do something meaningful, he could do a documentary series on the long war between traditional American values and the (so-far) irresistible force of globalist, elitist orthodoxy.
     
    I wonder if we are not letting them off too easy by calling them "globalist elitists."

    They are castrating children.

    They put a guy in the White House whose daughter claims that he showered with her when she was a kid.

    And the woman who is a heartbeat away "earned" her first political positions by sleeping with the Speaker of the California Assembly.

    It's like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the '60s.

    But, most importantly, they are castrating children.

    Replies: @Anon, @Verymuchalive, @vinteuil

    They are castrating children.

    Indeed they are.

    There are all sorts of more or less interesting arguments for & against the existence of God.

    But when it comes to the existence of the devil, there can be no serious question.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, Hibernian
  157. @James J. O'Meara
    @Meretricious

    And don't forget the editor he always uses, and whoever it is does the music selection. If you press someone on why he's "great" the answer will be the editing and the use of time-appropriate pop music.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Yes, I’ve had the feeling a couple of times during Scorsese films that I was watching a violent music video. Maybe during a couple of Tarantino films too (only seen three).

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @HammerJack

    I find Scorsese's use of music to be very annoying and intrusive. Dubbing "Layla" over the Goodfellas body-stacking scene has been lauded as a piece of artistic genius, but to me it has always seemed incongruous and just a plain old invitation to lose interest in the movie. Devo's version of "I Can't get no Satisfaction" in Casino is aggravating in the extreme.

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

  158. @James Braxton
    He's too busy telling us how blacks invented country music to worry about these things.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J1234, @bruce county, @Mr. Grey

    Best comment.
    Fuck Ken Burns.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @bruce county

    Bruce C and James B say:

    "Best comment.
    Fuck Ken Burns."

    I respond:

    OK, you said it, now do it and I don't mean start a homosexual relationship with Ken B. How about bringing some "DIVERSITY" in to his safe, quiet Whiteopia in New Hampshire. This ass h*** is about to make huge $ forcing Holocaust propaganda on our people and he's getting on CNN and arguing that flying 44 illegals to Martha's Vineyard is the same as the J Holocaust.

    C'mon mate - Ken B deserves to share our pain.

  159. @Realelliotpage
    Oh, wow, you discovered a leftist hypocrite! Once you point that out he will surely apologize and be driven from public life.

    Everyone knows, on some level or another, that leftist, neo-lib, globohomo is a total failure and has made life a lot worse for 98% of people in it. The 2% at the top know it, too. And they love it. Burns is on their payroll.

    You're like the angry leftist guy who hurled a drink at the chick-fil-a drive through girl. As if she has any say in chick-fil-a's corporate political agenda. Are you ever going to address the "management" population that gives Burns money and status? No, I don't reckon you will.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Dnought

    Burns has a lot more agency than the “Chik-Fil-A drive through girl”. It’s not like making multi-part PBS documentaries is a minimum wage job and the man has no other choices but to make stuff that satisfies the “management” you allude to. He’d just have to give up being very rich and very celebrated, that’s all.

    • Replies: @Realelliotpage
    @Dnought

    The point is that Burns does it for money, not ideology. So why appeal to his ideological consistency? He doesn't care and it likely gives him a good chuckle. He's cashing checks: mission accomplished.

    The people who finance people like Burns, however, do it for ideology. They actually have the ability to be shamed, and the easiest way is simply to name them and the power they hold.

  160. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Instead of two or three million per year, why not 20 or 30 million? Ack, we’re still way behind Brother Yglesias. Better ramp it up a bit further.

    This “diluting the earning power of lower class Americans” thing is taking more time and effort than we’d like, but whatever.

  161. @Corvinus
    “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?”

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Of course, wealthier people regardless of race sought to live in places where non wealthier people would not be a nuisance.

    “Were they wrong to do so?”

    It depends if the people moved out squarely because darker people moved in. It’s not necessarily a matter of being wrong, it’s just a matter of ignorance and being held hostage to their prejudices. In a similar fashion, as Eastern and Southern Europeans came to our shores in droves in the big cities in the early 1900s, a similar phenomenon occurred—these groups were kept out of desirable areas, or lived into places where WASPs once lived but then moved away.

    “Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?”

    This has been a continuous theme in American history. It’s called sequence occupancy. Look it up. Of course it matters HOW this gentrification is taking place. What tactics are being used?

    “There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.”

    That has been addressed. Perhaps not as recently, but normal educated people are aware of those reasons.

    “Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?”

    Only if we are honest of the grift currently taking place within the GOP.

    “In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?””

    Of course. But it’s also a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic…if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people hsbe money.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @loveshumanity, @rebel yell

    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.

    Cheaper land was available – feral blacks ruined large parts of the city making the remaining city real estate more expensive
    Better quality schools – feral blacks ruined the schools in the city.
    Escape from urban blight – feral blacks destroyed property. Feral blacks are urban blight.
    Etc. – that would be crime and murder, also caused by feral blacks.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, Renard
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @rebel yell

    You’re conveniently leaving out that middle class whites left behind their poor white brethren. And Republican/conservative policies
    destroyed many white neighborhoods as retail businesses lost customers as manufacturing moved overseas. So as the U.S. economy shifted from goods-producing to service-producing, jobs began to be polarized into low-wage and high-wage employment.

    Moreover, In Lost Cities (1995), Alan Ehrenhalt discusses Elmhurst, a Chicago suburb 16 miles west of the Loop. The newcomers who bought its new ranch houses and split-levels were “refugees from Chicago apartments,” he writes, “fleeing all the things suburbanites fled in the 1950s: landlords and cooking smells, neighbors one flight above or uncomfortably close next door, physical surroundings that carried indelible reminders of hard times years ago.” One new resident told the Elmhurst Press, “It is wonderful to be able to see grass and trees, instead of hallways and speeding automobiles.”

    So it wasn’t “feral blacks”. You’re just not that bright.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    , @AceDeuce
    @rebel yell

    I wish that I could agree fifty times to this post. Thank you.

  162. @E. Rekshun
    @PhysicistDave

    we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    No garage? Or is it jam packed w/ useless junk.

    The perpetrator is most likely the teenage son of one of those upper-middle-class professionals. You know, regression to the mean and all.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    E. Rekshun asked me:

    [Dave] we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    [ER] No garage? Or is it jam packed w/ useless junk.

    Our neighbor has three vehicles — the homes in the neighborhood were built in the early ’70s with two-car garages.

    ER also wrote:

    The perpetrator is most likely the teenage son of one of those upper-middle-class professionals. You know, regression to the mean and all.

    There is a huge “homeless” problem throughout California, so people are guessing it might be a homeless person or persons.

    But the fact that they tried to disassemble the steering wheel to hot-wire the vehicle suggests that these may be semi-professionals.

    • Thanks: E. Rekshun
  163. @Corvinus
    @Kylie

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    My little buddy Benito Corvinus wrote to Kylie:

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.

    No, Benito: we do not assume that. In certain situations, we conclude that.

    Big difference. Beyond your grade level, of course.

    For example, the abortion issue is so complex, that it is not that easy to find two people who have exactly the same position. That does not mean that, out of any two people, one is evil: it just means the issue is complex.

    On the other hand, Benito, they are castrating children.

    That is not a subtle, complicated issue.

    A simple character test: do you think that is a subtly complicated issue?

    If you do, that tells us all we need to know about your character.

    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    You assume and wrongly conclude. That’s better and more precise regarding your line of thinking.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  164. @anon
    @Polistra

    Ackman is talking his book. Which is about as deep as he gets.

    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.

    Trade is potentially a good thing.

    “Under a system of perfectly free commerce, each country naturally devotes its capital and labour to such employments as are most beneficial to each. This pursuit of individual advantage is admirably connected with the universal good of the whole.”

    But there are trade offs.

    But it isn't too useful to discuss immigration and ignore the larger picture. Personally, I favor importing things rather than people. Especially things like textiles and garments which we have been importing forever. Low value goods.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Anonymous

    In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization.

    And yet, inflation kept going.

  165. @AnotherDad
    How about:

    Is there any meaning to a nation's history, when the nation's people--the "posterity" of the people who made the history--are replaced by completely different people, with different cultures, norms and values, and who have no connection to and do not actually care about the prior people's history?

    Replies: @Polistra, @Liza, @Moses

    I dunno. How much do you know about Native American history, culture and heroes? There’s your answer.

  166. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Kylie

    When Colonel Nicholson awakens from his self-delusion. It's difficult to imagine elfin Burns completing training and wearing the uniform of any armed service. Although Ken would make a fine LTJG knob-polisher for the CDRs, CAPTs, RDMLs, RADMs, and VADMs in the Antinous cult that's been lodged in the USN for many moons.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “When Colonel Nicholson awakens from his self-delusion. It’s difficult to imagine elfin Burns completing training and wearing the uniform of any armed service.”

    Agreed, and difficult to imagine him doing anything honorable, whether he was in or out of uniform.

    But a girl can dream, right?

  167. @PhysicistDave
    @Corvinus

    My little buddy Benito Corvinus wrote to Kylie:


    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You assume that the groups you disagree with ideologically seek to destroy our institutions, or are other than patriotic.
     
    No, Benito: we do not assume that. In certain situations, we conclude that.

    Big difference. Beyond your grade level, of course.

    For example, the abortion issue is so complex, that it is not that easy to find two people who have exactly the same position. That does not mean that, out of any two people, one is evil: it just means the issue is complex.

    On the other hand, Benito, they are castrating children.

    That is not a subtle, complicated issue.

    A simple character test: do you think that is a subtly complicated issue?

    If you do, that tells us all we need to know about your character.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You assume and wrongly conclude. That’s better and more precise regarding your line of thinking.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Could you please answer his question?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  168. @West reanimator
    @Corvinus


    You conveniently leave out the fact that Italian/Irish/Polish neighborhoods were segregated in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and they were hostile with one another. It took a couple of generations for this conflict to subside,
     
    Whom is that fact inconvenient for?

    Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it's only different European Christians participating in it? Cool, so you agree that adding different races and religions to the mix would (and has) only made things worse, right?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it?“

    No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    • Troll: Gordo
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact.

    Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @AceDeuce
    @Corvinus


    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?
     
    Those new European immigrants weren't really "undesirable" and didn't need "transforming".

    The prejudice against Irish was a carryover from the England-Ireland beef that went back hundreds of years even then. Even so, NYC had an Irish-born mayor by 1881.

    Any prejudice to other Europeans was primarily due to language differences.

    My own yardstick is to see what the new immigrants are leaving. The people whose blood kin built Dublin, and Florence, and Prague, and Budapest, and Helsinki, are aces with me. Poles can point to copernicus, Italians to Leonardo and Galileo. More than one book has been written on how the Irish helped save civilization during the Dark Ages.

    Show me the Somalian version of the above--or the Haitian, or the Guatemalan. I'll wait.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @BB753
    @Corvinus

    Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That's why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should've stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  169. @rebel yell
    @Corvinus


    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.
     
    Cheaper land was available - feral blacks ruined large parts of the city making the remaining city real estate more expensive
    Better quality schools - feral blacks ruined the schools in the city.
    Escape from urban blight - feral blacks destroyed property. Feral blacks are urban blight.
    Etc. - that would be crime and murder, also caused by feral blacks.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @AceDeuce

    You’re conveniently leaving out that middle class whites left behind their poor white brethren. And Republican/conservative policies
    destroyed many white neighborhoods as retail businesses lost customers as manufacturing moved overseas. So as the U.S. economy shifted from goods-producing to service-producing, jobs began to be polarized into low-wage and high-wage employment.

    Moreover, In Lost Cities (1995), Alan Ehrenhalt discusses Elmhurst, a Chicago suburb 16 miles west of the Loop. The newcomers who bought its new ranch houses and split-levels were “refugees from Chicago apartments,” he writes, “fleeing all the things suburbanites fled in the 1950s: landlords and cooking smells, neighbors one flight above or uncomfortably close next door, physical surroundings that carried indelible reminders of hard times years ago.” One new resident told the Elmhurst Press, “It is wonderful to be able to see grass and trees, instead of hallways and speeding automobiles.”

    So it wasn’t “feral blacks”. You’re just not that bright.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Corvinus


    You’re conveniently leaving out that middle class whites left behind their poor white brethren.
     
    Middle class or poor, everyone flees from feral blacks. Whites flee. Asians and Pacific Islanders flee. Normal blacks flee. Dogs, cats and the beasts of the field flee.
    You can't over-state how feral blacks destroy cities. Look at Detroit, E St Louis, Baltimore, Selma.
    The suburbs offered an appealing bucolic life-choice, but black-free cities also offer a good life-choice.
    Many whites moved out from Seattle to the suburbs in the post-war years, but many also stayed close into the city, and Seattle remained an appealing place to live, because it was virtually black-free.
    You are welcome to go live in black Baltimore. Hope you enjoy your murder.
  170. @Corvinus
    @West reanimator

    “Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it?“

    No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AceDeuce, @BB753

    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact.

    Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?“

    There wouldn’t need to be if those groups were prohibited from entering in large droves. Hence, the 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts.

    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?

    Consider that…

    —Although Italians were not specifically singled out they were considered by many Americans as part of the “motley throng” which passed through America’s immigration stalls. John Fiske, traveling in Italy, printed his observations that “The lowest Irish are far above the level of these creatures (Italians)” while the great Emerson rejoiced that the early immigrants brought “the light complexion, the blue eyes of Europe” rather than “the black eyes, the black drop” of southern Europe. Before a congressional committee investigating Chinese Immigration in 1891 a west coast construction boss commented that “You don’t call . . . an Italian a white man . . . an Italian is a Dago… In Boston the Italians numbered 7% of the population, yet their arrest rate was 6.1% of the total foreign-born. New York City counted Italians as 11.5% of its population in 1903, yet their arrest rate was about 12% of the foreign total. Indeed, as late as 1963 James W. Vander Zander pointed out that the rate of criminal convictions among Italian immigrants was less than that among American-born whites.”—

    Source: https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/italian-americans-and-their-communities-of-cleveland/chapter/chapter-6-anti-italian-sentiment-in-america/

    So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

  171. @Corvinus
    @West reanimator

    “Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it?“

    No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AceDeuce, @BB753

    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    Those new European immigrants weren’t really “undesirable” and didn’t need “transforming”.

    The prejudice against Irish was a carryover from the England-Ireland beef that went back hundreds of years even then. Even so, NYC had an Irish-born mayor by 1881.

    Any prejudice to other Europeans was primarily due to language differences.

    My own yardstick is to see what the new immigrants are leaving. The people whose blood kin built Dublin, and Florence, and Prague, and Budapest, and Helsinki, are aces with me. Poles can point to copernicus, Italians to Leonardo and Galileo. More than one book has been written on how the Irish helped save civilization during the Dark Ages.

    Show me the Somalian version of the above–or the Haitian, or the Guatemalan. I’ll wait.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AceDeuce

    “Any prejudice to other Europeans was primarily due to language differences.“

    You mean ethnic, cultural, and intelligence differences.

  172. @Peter D. Bredon
    @Franz


    “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now
     
    Making the con-man Wizard Donald Trump would be brilliant. I'd watch that, no matter what else they do to it.

    Replies: @njguy73

    “Making the con man in the Wizard of Oz Donald Trump”

    Mad magazine did a Wizard of Oz parody in 1990, and guess what the punchline was?

  173. @James J. O'Meara
    @Feryl

    The "smart" criminal is a media myth. Like the suave, hyper-intelligent sociopath: e.g., Hannibal Lecter. In a preface to a new edition of Silence of the Lambs, Harris admits he's been challenged on this, and claims he looked around and found one; but for reasons of confidentiality he can't reveal the name, so there.

    Replies: @Feryl, @David In TN

    It’s true the “smart criminal” is a media myth, or a creation of screenwriters and novelists. Another one is the “nice guy criminal.” Someone once observed how in movies set in prisons, “There seem to be a lot of nice people in prisons.”

  174. @Meretricious
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Ken Burns doesn’t want to live around Negroes, or any other sort of diversity, any more than you do."

    Bottom line, Ken Burns and his fellow social justice warriors believe in the fiction of Negro innocence for the purposes of their art or politics--but when it comes to where they reside or where their female child is educated, they know PRECISELY what the racial reality is. In other words, Ken Burns is a first-class "bullshit artist"

    Replies: @loveshumanity, @David In TN

    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @David In TN


    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.
     
    You can change it by just going back and hitting the right one.

    Replies: @David In TN

  175. @Corvinus
    @rebel yell

    You’re conveniently leaving out that middle class whites left behind their poor white brethren. And Republican/conservative policies
    destroyed many white neighborhoods as retail businesses lost customers as manufacturing moved overseas. So as the U.S. economy shifted from goods-producing to service-producing, jobs began to be polarized into low-wage and high-wage employment.

    Moreover, In Lost Cities (1995), Alan Ehrenhalt discusses Elmhurst, a Chicago suburb 16 miles west of the Loop. The newcomers who bought its new ranch houses and split-levels were “refugees from Chicago apartments,” he writes, “fleeing all the things suburbanites fled in the 1950s: landlords and cooking smells, neighbors one flight above or uncomfortably close next door, physical surroundings that carried indelible reminders of hard times years ago.” One new resident told the Elmhurst Press, “It is wonderful to be able to see grass and trees, instead of hallways and speeding automobiles.”

    So it wasn’t “feral blacks”. You’re just not that bright.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    You’re conveniently leaving out that middle class whites left behind their poor white brethren.

    Middle class or poor, everyone flees from feral blacks. Whites flee. Asians and Pacific Islanders flee. Normal blacks flee. Dogs, cats and the beasts of the field flee.
    You can’t over-state how feral blacks destroy cities. Look at Detroit, E St Louis, Baltimore, Selma.
    The suburbs offered an appealing bucolic life-choice, but black-free cities also offer a good life-choice.
    Many whites moved out from Seattle to the suburbs in the post-war years, but many also stayed close into the city, and Seattle remained an appealing place to live, because it was virtually black-free.
    You are welcome to go live in black Baltimore. Hope you enjoy your murder.

  176. @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact.

    Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?“

    There wouldn’t need to be if those groups were prohibited from entering in large droves. Hence, the 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts.

    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?

    Consider that…

    —Although Italians were not specifically singled out they were considered by many Americans as part of the “motley throng” which passed through America’s immigration stalls. John Fiske, traveling in Italy, printed his observations that “The lowest Irish are far above the level of these creatures (Italians)” while the great Emerson rejoiced that the early immigrants brought “the light complexion, the blue eyes of Europe” rather than “the black eyes, the black drop” of southern Europe. Before a congressional committee investigating Chinese Immigration in 1891 a west coast construction boss commented that “You don’t call . . . an Italian a white man . . . an Italian is a Dago… In Boston the Italians numbered 7% of the population, yet their arrest rate was 6.1% of the total foreign-born. New York City counted Italians as 11.5% of its population in 1903, yet their arrest rate was about 12% of the foreign total. Indeed, as late as 1963 James W. Vander Zander pointed out that the rate of criminal convictions among Italian immigrants was less than that among American-born whites.”—

    Source: https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/italian-americans-and-their-communities-of-cleveland/chapter/chapter-6-anti-italian-sentiment-in-america/

    So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    No clue why you fancy anyone here would do anything but chuckle at the notion that open-borders should be a default setting. You'd have a hard time persuading the descendants of the Ellis island immigrants that it should be.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Hibernian
    @Corvinus


    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?
     
    I am part Slav and have Jewish and Italian relatives. A bunch of folks here are from similar backgrounds. You on the other hand seem to rely heavily on book knowledge concerning this type of issue.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  177. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    That’s not the purpose of theft of old clunkers. They use them to commit various crimes.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @kaganovitch

    No doubt. I once had a rusted 1986 midsized car which was stolen in front of my house in 1995. Car was found that night intact in a negro neighborhood.

    , @Nico
    @kaganovitch

    In France older cars are more frequently stolen because the manufacturers are more likely to have discontinued the retail of spare parts, making said vehicles valuable scrap heaps.

    , @Detroit Refugee
    @kaganovitch

    Negros steal vehicles up here to smash through storefronts and loot the place. A recent case involving gun stores comes to mind.

    And over the years many party stores have lost ATM's, too numerous to list.

  178. How ’bout a movie version of Kevin Purcell’s Philly War Zone? Lots of dramatic roles for black actors!

  179. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey Steve Sailer and others of his kind….

    You’ve hinted at it, but haven’t popped the cherry.

    Please Dox Ken Burns – nut just list his home town. What is his physical address? Do some project Veritas type hidden camera and film Ken Burns in his Whiteopedia, contrast that with immigration, racial crime anarchy of the New York City he and his kind fled.

    And next step – get wealthy guy/guys on our side to do the full monty – bus diseased thousands of migrants to Ken Burns’ home offer the migrants all kinds of free stuff.

    Immigration patriots in Israel did that to the few American J Liberals that were mouthing off about open borders to Israel.

    This works. It’s pure Saul Alinsky activism.

    Our side has pretty much wasted the last 60 years just complaining about Liberal elites, without ever naming names, who? Whom? Where? Our enemies and traitors rarely if ever pay any personal price for their treasons.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  180. @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    https://i.ibb.co/80GNyLD/Screenshot-20220924-035103-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @Altai, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @Gabe Ruth, @Colin Wright, @HammerJack, @International Jew

    Because immigrants produce but never consume, right?

  181. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @bruce county
    @James Braxton

    Best comment.
    Fuck Ken Burns.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Bruce C and James B say:

    “Best comment.
    Fuck Ken Burns.”

    I respond:

    OK, you said it, now do it and I don’t mean start a homosexual relationship with Ken B. How about bringing some “DIVERSITY” in to his safe, quiet Whiteopia in New Hampshire. This ass h*** is about to make huge $ forcing Holocaust propaganda on our people and he’s getting on CNN and arguing that flying 44 illegals to Martha’s Vineyard is the same as the J Holocaust.

    C’mon mate – Ken B deserves to share our pain.

  182. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?“

    There wouldn’t need to be if those groups were prohibited from entering in large droves. Hence, the 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts.

    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?

    Consider that…

    —Although Italians were not specifically singled out they were considered by many Americans as part of the “motley throng” which passed through America’s immigration stalls. John Fiske, traveling in Italy, printed his observations that “The lowest Irish are far above the level of these creatures (Italians)” while the great Emerson rejoiced that the early immigrants brought “the light complexion, the blue eyes of Europe” rather than “the black eyes, the black drop” of southern Europe. Before a congressional committee investigating Chinese Immigration in 1891 a west coast construction boss commented that “You don’t call . . . an Italian a white man . . . an Italian is a Dago… In Boston the Italians numbered 7% of the population, yet their arrest rate was 6.1% of the total foreign-born. New York City counted Italians as 11.5% of its population in 1903, yet their arrest rate was about 12% of the foreign total. Indeed, as late as 1963 James W. Vander Zander pointed out that the rate of criminal convictions among Italian immigrants was less than that among American-born whites.”—

    Source: https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/italian-americans-and-their-communities-of-cleveland/chapter/chapter-6-anti-italian-sentiment-in-america/

    So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

    No clue why you fancy anyone here would do anything but chuckle at the notion that open-borders should be a default setting. You’d have a hard time persuading the descendants of the Ellis island immigrants that it should be.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    You’re being evasive. So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    Replies: @Art Deco

  183. @kaganovitch
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    That's not the purpose of theft of old clunkers. They use them to commit various crimes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Nico, @Detroit Refugee

    No doubt. I once had a rusted 1986 midsized car which was stolen in front of my house in 1995. Car was found that night intact in a negro neighborhood.

  184. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    "Arizona checking in, here."

    I remember traveling to Canyon de Chelly with my drunk dad as the sun was setting. He wanted to see the place where they filmed MacKenna's Gold. With shadows growing the place got vibey and spooky. When the local Indians appeared across the streambed dad told me to hurry.

    "Fuck off, we're full."

    Gavin Newsom's Californian Air Resources Board has of late issued some stunningly dystopian decrees to achieve their totalitarian utopia. I figure I'm out of here in a couple of years. I like Oregon (despite the hilariously lunatic governor), or a spot outside of Spokane. But your unwelcoming missive has got me thinking: are the scorpions and sandstorms worth it just to spite you?

    Replies: @ForeverCARealist

    People living in harsh climates around the US love to be able to think, “I’m tougher than you.”

    I’m okay with that.

    AZ’s climate is only harsh if you have to work outside during the summer (all 7 months of it). There’s solid reasons why there’s so many retirement communities there. The Jews have colonized Scottsdale. Not a bad thing, BTW.

  185. @James Braxton
    He's too busy telling us how blacks invented country music to worry about these things.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J1234, @bruce county, @Mr. Grey

    I was surprised at how good his series on Country music was, only because I expected it to be shit. His best move was not bothering with much beyond the 1980’s. His biggest error was not devoting an entire episode to Tammy Wynette and George Jones. Of course he inserted unknown modern black artists to comment on the great musicians of the past, but in his defence most of his audience are white liberals who need to hear it from a black woman to know it’s true.

  186. @rebel yell
    @Corvinus


    A host of factors—cheaper land was available, better quality schools, escape from urban blight, etc.
     
    Cheaper land was available - feral blacks ruined large parts of the city making the remaining city real estate more expensive
    Better quality schools - feral blacks ruined the schools in the city.
    Escape from urban blight - feral blacks destroyed property. Feral blacks are urban blight.
    Etc. - that would be crime and murder, also caused by feral blacks.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @AceDeuce

    I wish that I could agree fifty times to this post. Thank you.

  187. @Verymuchalive
    @PhysicistDave

    You write.
    It’s like some strange, bizarre, sick dystopian movie from back in the ’60s.

    Like Rosemary's Baby. Except, of course, life imitates art. Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old and escapes to France. He is not extradited, nor is he shunned by French society. He continues to make films and lots of money as if nothing of importance had happenned.

    If you are a member of the global elite, like Polanski, then you have almost complete immunity. The Government will suppress the evidence. If not, the MSM won't report it. If it is reported, you won't be charged - just ask Hunter Biden. If you are charged, then the charges will likely be watered down- the 2008 Jeffrey Epstein trial springs to mind. Finally, if there is a chance of serious conviction, you can flee to some safe haven or fake your own death.

    Polanski's escape to France was in 1977. Things are very much worse now.

    Replies: @Gordo

    Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old

    It was at least one 10 year old, and Hollywood still loves him.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @Gordo

    There are more allegations out there, but the 13 year-old was the only one that made it to court. Given the background, I'm sure there are more young girls that he raped, some of whom have never come forward.
    Of course, you're right. ((( Hollywood ))) loves ((( him ))).

  188. @Dnought
    @Realelliotpage

    Burns has a lot more agency than the "Chik-Fil-A drive through girl". It's not like making multi-part PBS documentaries is a minimum wage job and the man has no other choices but to make stuff that satisfies the "management" you allude to. He'd just have to give up being very rich and very celebrated, that's all.

    Replies: @Realelliotpage

    The point is that Burns does it for money, not ideology. So why appeal to his ideological consistency? He doesn’t care and it likely gives him a good chuckle. He’s cashing checks: mission accomplished.

    The people who finance people like Burns, however, do it for ideology. They actually have the ability to be shamed, and the easiest way is simply to name them and the power they hold.

  189. @David In TN
    @Meretricious

    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.

    You can change it by just going back and hitting the right one.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I did. Thanks.

  190. @HammerJack
    @James J. O'Meara

    Yes, I've had the feeling a couple of times during Scorsese films that I was watching a violent music video. Maybe during a couple of Tarantino films too (only seen three).

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I find Scorsese’s use of music to be very annoying and intrusive. Dubbing “Layla” over the Goodfellas body-stacking scene has been lauded as a piece of artistic genius, but to me it has always seemed incongruous and just a plain old invitation to lose interest in the movie. Devo’s version of “I Can’t get no Satisfaction” in Casino is aggravating in the extreme.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That you remember those incidents says something about Scorcese's use of music.

    I'm curious of your opinion on other director's use of music.

    Replies: @Liberty Mike

  191. @Corvinus
    @West reanimator

    “Are you conceding that multicultural society is hopelessly dysfunctional even when it’s only different European Christians participating in it?“

    No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AceDeuce, @BB753

    Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That’s why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should’ve stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @BB753

    “Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That’s why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should’ve stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.“

    Thank you for your honesty. It’s decidedly anti-white, and it divides whites, but at least you are willing to share your sentiment.

    Replies: @BB753

  192. @loveshumanity
    @Corvinus

    Sort of torn on this... But basically I don't think it's racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Sort of torn on this… But basically I don’t think it’s racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.

    That’s what missions are for. Cf St Peter Claver, below. Burns’s problem– and ours with him– is that he insists that we live among the people he won’t.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Reg Cæsar


    Cf St Peter Claver, below.
     
    Claver’s actions did not help. Catholicism seeks to increase the amount of brutes. Your claimed religion contradicts your antipathy to Blacks.

    That’s what missions are for.
     
    Here’s a better sort of mission:

    “PBR Streetgang, this is Almighty, over…”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X_XSqOy-zE

  193. @PhysicistDave
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow wrote:


    Most interviewees of a “Why I Left” documentary would cite crime and schools, and that’s fine…as far as it goes. But they would lack the ability to articulate the constant frustrations, humiliations, compromises, delusions, and grotesqueries of everyday life. This is certainly true today about why people leave California. I myself am a good observer of California grotesqueries, and I would do a serviceable job.
     
    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area -- upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    The first time they stole the stereo; the second time they tried to hot-wire the vehicle by taking the steering wheel apart but, apparently, they lack that particular skill. Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    Our neighbor's wife is a high-ranking official in the state government, in tight with the liberal Dems, but our neighbor is getting pretty sick of all this.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Prester John, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @E. Rekshun, @kaganovitch, @Nico

    That blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics are the reason behind this potentially lethal headache is something >90% of American whites know, but which >90% of them won’t acknowledge in front of a camera because they understand the implications of ‘Borat’ and the lot of that poor BoA employee trying to defend her home and her neighbors against the Texas Pool Squatters. Conservatives will acknowledge it to someone they know and think they can trust. Centrists will acknowledge it to themselves but no one else. Liberals know it is true but when the thought enters their head immediately do some sort of penance ranging from self-flagellation of “white guilt” and explaining it away with “structural racism” narratives to engaging in miscegenation and/or volunteering for an anti-racist crusade.

  194. @kaganovitch
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    That's not the purpose of theft of old clunkers. They use them to commit various crimes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Nico, @Detroit Refugee

    In France older cars are more frequently stolen because the manufacturers are more likely to have discontinued the retail of spare parts, making said vehicles valuable scrap heaps.

  195. @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    No clue why you fancy anyone here would do anything but chuckle at the notion that open-borders should be a default setting. You'd have a hard time persuading the descendants of the Ellis island immigrants that it should be.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You’re being evasive. So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    I'm not being evasive at all. I'm pointing out your assumptions, which you don't like.

    There were no uniform assessments of the immigrant stream on the part of the foundational population in 1920. A critical mass held to the view that it was foreign and the demographic weight it occupied was quite enough. It doesn't require any intense contempt for others or hostility to them to favor what is familiar and what you value. As it was, the large scale immigration was coincident in time with several other problems, so people drew the occam's razor conclusions. Latter-day academicians tell us it's nefarious to draw occam's razor conclusions because reasons.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  196. @loveshumanity
    @Wade Hampton

    Point taken about the downsides of diversity. It's something I'm well aware of.


    We aren’t one giant mulatto melange. And both races like it that way.
     
    That's fine, and families and individuals can do what they want, but in general I don't think there should be a stigma for who people breed with or be friends with. Just my opinion.

    Replies: @Nico

    I don’t think there should be a stigma for who people breed with or be friends with.

    If said people and their scion never left the gates of their own property maybe I’d be less inclined to worry about what my neighbors were doing. In real life, we all have to live with the consequences of “individual” associated choices. Communities are imposed (by complex natural processes and accidents), not chosen, and the extent to which a specimen is able to “choose” ad hoc his associations is directly correlated to his alienation from any sort of community at all.

  197. @AceDeuce
    @Corvinus


    WASPs were opposed to the inclusion of Eastern and Southern European Christians into the body politic and social fabric. Yet, you gloss over this fact. Were WASPs wrong? Was it magic dirt that transformed undesirables?
     
    Those new European immigrants weren't really "undesirable" and didn't need "transforming".

    The prejudice against Irish was a carryover from the England-Ireland beef that went back hundreds of years even then. Even so, NYC had an Irish-born mayor by 1881.

    Any prejudice to other Europeans was primarily due to language differences.

    My own yardstick is to see what the new immigrants are leaving. The people whose blood kin built Dublin, and Florence, and Prague, and Budapest, and Helsinki, are aces with me. Poles can point to copernicus, Italians to Leonardo and Galileo. More than one book has been written on how the Irish helped save civilization during the Dark Ages.

    Show me the Somalian version of the above--or the Haitian, or the Guatemalan. I'll wait.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Any prejudice to other Europeans was primarily due to language differences.“

    You mean ethnic, cultural, and intelligence differences.

  198. @Reg Cæsar

    In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”
     
    For Bernie Sanders:

    "In 1968 you were hard at work on your [civil rights movement bona fides], but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote [Stannard, Vermont], which is still [98.92]% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of 'white flight?'"


    Similar questions could be asked of James M Loewen, Thom Hartmann, Ben & Jerry, and Barack and Michelle Obama, all of whom moved to lily-white New England towns.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jack P

    While the small towns in northern New England are lily white, the cities are changing. Both Burlington VT and Portland ME have had dramatic increases in violent crime this year. Burlington in particular has shootings now, while they were almost unheard of until three years ago. Portland has more shootings now too. And when they show who’s been arrested, they don’t really look like New Englanders.

  199. Dear Ken, given your films are based on negrofatuation, how do you reconcile that with choosing to live in a lily white New Hampshire town? Do you understand your hypocratic lifestyle?

  200. @anon
    @Corvinus

    You actually did make this exact statement concerning Ken Burns moving to New Hampshire. You wrote - "But it’s a clear example of wealthy people regardless of race moving to a place where other wealthy people live....if you have money, you seek to live in neighborhoods where other people have money."

    Ken Burns did not move to New Hampshire to have wealthy neighbors. Nor was Mr. Burns wealthy when he relocated to New Hampshire. You stated that Ken Burns moving to NH was a clear example of a wealthy person moving to live among other wealthy people. He moved to New Hampshire to escape the diversity of New York. I don't blame him. Most whites would be better off if they followed the example of people like Ken Burns and relocated to New Hampshire or Maine to escape the encroaching diversity.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Most whites would be better off if they followed the example of people like Ken Burns and relocated to New Hampshire or Maine to escape the encroaching diversity…

    …and were honest enough to admit it.

    Though, ironically, we did move out of the city for economic, not social, reasons. So, by corvine logic, we’d have the right to boast. But moral one-upmanship, i.e., spiritual pride, is a sin. (And evidently a trait found only in whites.) It is not a temptation, though.

  201. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    You’re being evasive. So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I’m not being evasive at all. I’m pointing out your assumptions, which you don’t like.

    There were no uniform assessments of the immigrant stream on the part of the foundational population in 1920. A critical mass held to the view that it was foreign and the demographic weight it occupied was quite enough. It doesn’t require any intense contempt for others or hostility to them to favor what is familiar and what you value. As it was, the large scale immigration was coincident in time with several other problems, so people drew the occam’s razor conclusions. Latter-day academicians tell us it’s nefarious to draw occam’s razor conclusions because reasons.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    You’re saying it without saying. At least BB73 outright admitted that he prefers certain whites. That’s anti-white, of course. But there was a uniform assessment of the immigrant stream on the part of the foundational population in the early 1900’s—Eastern and Southern Europeans were undesirable, which led to two restrictive laws against them. And there was intense bitterness and hostility toward those groups. Refer to the Sacco Vanzetti Trial as an example.

  202. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:

    My question would be , ” What happened?”

    The Civil War was balanced and neutral . The two featured historians were polar opposites:.
    Shelby Foote was a white , male , unapologetic Southern military historian. Barbara Fields was
    a black, female , Northern social historian. Southern critics said the doc was heavily influenced by the “Lincoln cult”. Northern critics said it was influenced by the ” Lee cult”. You are being
    fair when both sides accuse you of being biased.

    Flash forward a few decades and he put his name on the CPF drivel, though his daughter made it. He is saying nonsense about slavery and the Civil War. He doesn’t have to go turbowoke to get funding for his work. He doesn’t have to say a thing and will still get funding and airplay. He appears to believe this nonsense.

    So what happened? Is there a drug-like euphoria that comes from being socially
    and morally superior to others? Is it addictive?

  203. @Reg Cæsar
    @loveshumanity


    Sort of torn on this… But basically I don’t think it’s racist to want to help blacks but not live near them.
     
    That's what missions are for. Cf St Peter Claver, below. Burns's problem-- and ours with him-- is that he insists that we live among the people he won't.


    https://f7hnjran9v-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Peter-Claver-ministering-to-African-Slaves-in-Cartagena-by-Emanuel-Dite-1894.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Cf St Peter Claver, below.

    Claver’s actions did not help. Catholicism seeks to increase the amount of brutes. Your claimed religion contradicts your antipathy to Blacks.

    That’s what missions are for.

    Here’s a better sort of mission:

    “PBR Streetgang, this is Almighty, over…”

  204. @BB753
    @Corvinus

    Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That's why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should've stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That’s why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should’ve stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.“

    Thank you for your honesty. It’s decidedly anti-white, and it divides whites, but at least you are willing to share your sentiment.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Corvinus

    It's not anti-white to say you prefer some types of whites over others. Particularly for religious reasons. As you can see, I'm not a great fan of calvinists. Calvinists nearly destroyed England, but they managed to destroy Scotland and the United States.

  205. @Ian Smith
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I think he looks more like Dave Barry, another Boomer whose shtick wore thin years ago.

    Replies: @BosTex, @RadicalCenter

    Dave Barry and PJ O’Rourke were unfunny and tiresome decades ago.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
  206. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @PhysicistDave

    Our next-door neighbor here in Sacramento has had his 1998 vehicle broken into twice in the last week: we live in a nice area — upper-middle-class professionals (e.g., several doctors on our street).

    Arizona checking in, here. Fuck off, we're full.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @RadicalCenter

    Who wants to live in shitty arizona.

    • Replies: @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @RadicalCenter

    Who wants to live in shitty arizona.

    Judging by the out-of-state plates I see constantly, tons and tons of Californians.

  207. @Corvinus
    @PhysicistDave

    You assume and wrongly conclude. That’s better and more precise regarding your line of thinking.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Could you please answer his question?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    Abortion culls the herd of low IQ darkie peoples, right? It’s eugenic. In the end, it helps out mightily the pro white cause, correct?

  208. @James Speaks
    @James Speaks

    Considering the masterfull treatment of the Steve Sailer Story, we (all y'all) could do a nice send up of white flight, complete with photos of The City Formerly Known As Detroit But Now Just Weeds And A Pile Of Bricks.

    Opening shot: Historical view of a Detroit neighborhood. (in sepia tones)
    Then: Morph to 2000 then to 2020, in full color.
    Then: Zoom in on a specific lot, now weeds.
    Then: Pan to a neighboring lot, now weeds.
    Finally, zoom in on a pile of bricks obscured by weeds.

    Voice Over: This was a great city once upon a time. Then the whites abandoned it.
    Why? Why? Why?

    In the distance a dog barks. A gunshot is heard.
    In the distance a dog is heard yelping. A gunshot is heard.

    Later, more gunfire. Later, even more gunfire.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    That weed choked lot conceals more than a pile of bricks. You will find stained and bedbug infested mattresses (extremely well used btw), piles of trash, yard waste dumped by the folks that do clean up their property, and the occasional corpse.

    And the vibrant background noise of the D is complimented by non stop sirens.

  209. @kaganovitch
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course, how much could they get for a 1998 vehicle, anyway?

    That's not the purpose of theft of old clunkers. They use them to commit various crimes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Nico, @Detroit Refugee

    Negros steal vehicles up here to smash through storefronts and loot the place. A recent case involving gun stores comes to mind.

    And over the years many party stores have lost ATM’s, too numerous to list.

  210. @Polistra
    @Almost Missouri

    Wtf is that and where did you find it??

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Wtf is that

    A pre-purge Tweet from what was probably a parody account run by a white teenager, an online forum, and a short movie that—judging by the YouTube comments—is apparently regarded by the shirtlifting communitay as the second coming of the Stonewall Riots.

    where did you find it?

    On the theme that modern “poets” produce rap-like crap and would continue to do so even if given a lift into space, I was looking for something like a complement to Gil Scott-Heron’s “Whitey on the Moon”, but instead of it complaining about Whitey being up on the moon while Blackie is stuck in the ghetto, it would exult that Blackie is now in space. So I googled something like “niggas in space” and … well, you see the results.

    As a sidenote I could point out that Google and YouTube continue to maintain and promote all those things, while ruthlessly censoring any doubts about the efficacy of modern vaccines, recent election integrity, or the absolute certainty of global weather Armageddon. I could … but why bother? The right already knows about the facially illegal hypocrisy, and the left doesn’t care.

    I guess that’s why no one even bothers arguing about Section 230 anymore.

    • Thanks: Polistra
  211. @Corvinus
    Clearly Burns is a friend of darkies. They like him. He states he like to live where he lives for creative purposes. What’s live where we want. You’re making it more than what it needs to be. That’s undeniably unpatriotic.

    You and others can live wherever you want and associate with whom you want with That’s who we are as a nation.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @loveshumanity, @Colin Wright

    ‘I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty’

    You’re so full of shit. I’ve lived in ‘diverse’ neighborhoods, too — and quite tolerant ones. I know exactly what you’re talking about.

    I had no problems with my neighbors. They just ignored me and I ignored them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    The neighborhood I live in is where Tawanda and Yasir and Todd all interact with one another without incident. It’s who we are.

  212. @Intelligent Dasein
    @David In TN


    I hit the wrong button. I actually agree.
     
    You can change it by just going back and hitting the right one.

    Replies: @David In TN

    I did. Thanks.

  213. @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    [Comment for Rob:

    While I continue to vote "better and more interesting", typos/orthography is taking a dive. This comment, for example, makes several good points, but decoding it is especially laborious.

    Can the form be fixed while maintaining the substance?]

    Replies: @Rob

    Um, maybe? I’ll give it a shot.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    It might have nothing to do with meds. I notice I get sloppy from time to time as part of some kind of wavering-of-consciousness epicycle. (If there is a solution to that other than just to focus more, I don't know it.) But since you posed the question, I'm sending a reply signal.

    Replies: @Rob

  214. @SaneClownPosse
    @anon

    "In fact, the most deflationary strategy in recent memory was importing goods from China, the largest economic component of globalization."

    They implemented an inflationary move by annually running a deficit to maintain a global force for greed, part of which is spending billions on the USN's IndoPac fleet's Freedom of Navigation Ops to contain the USA's current mortal enemy of World Peace, China.

    Meanwhile, having eliminated many productive jobs in the USA, by allowing US corporations to build production facilities inside the US's mortal enemy China. No "Made in China" label is needed.

    EBT assistance is available for the jobless via government issued debit cards, funds which are transferred (via JP Morgan Chase, collecting a slice of every transaction) from government books to Walmart's books.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What point are you making here? Please distill it down.

  215. @Corvinus
    @BB753

    “Wasps were right. But Puritans were also undesirables. (That’s why they were kicked out of both England and Holland.) They should’ve stuck to Scots -Irish, Anglican Englishmen and Lutheran Germans.“

    Thank you for your honesty. It’s decidedly anti-white, and it divides whites, but at least you are willing to share your sentiment.

    Replies: @BB753

    It’s not anti-white to say you prefer some types of whites over others. Particularly for religious reasons. As you can see, I’m not a great fan of calvinists. Calvinists nearly destroyed England, but they managed to destroy Scotland and the United States.

  216. n.b. 200 posts, a quarter of them Corvinus or people arguing with Corvinus

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Anonymous


     ...a quarter of them Corvinus or people arguing with Corvinus
     Right. If you really must reply to Corvinus, don't use the reply tab. Don't give him his pennies.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  217. @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    I'm not being evasive at all. I'm pointing out your assumptions, which you don't like.

    There were no uniform assessments of the immigrant stream on the part of the foundational population in 1920. A critical mass held to the view that it was foreign and the demographic weight it occupied was quite enough. It doesn't require any intense contempt for others or hostility to them to favor what is familiar and what you value. As it was, the large scale immigration was coincident in time with several other problems, so people drew the occam's razor conclusions. Latter-day academicians tell us it's nefarious to draw occam's razor conclusions because reasons.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You’re saying it without saying. At least BB73 outright admitted that he prefers certain whites. That’s anti-white, of course. But there was a uniform assessment of the immigrant stream on the part of the foundational population in the early 1900’s—Eastern and Southern Europeans were undesirable, which led to two restrictive laws against them. And there was intense bitterness and hostility toward those groups. Refer to the Sacco Vanzetti Trial as an example.

  218. @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    'I live in a mixed neighborhood. We hold similar beliefs and attitudes. Most normies understand diversity quite well. Again, it’s who we are. You just simply disagree, which is your liberty'

    You're so full of shit. I've lived in 'diverse' neighborhoods, too -- and quite tolerant ones. I know exactly what you're talking about.

    I had no problems with my neighbors. They just ignored me and I ignored them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    The neighborhood I live in is where Tawanda and Yasir and Todd all interact with one another without incident. It’s who we are.

  219. ‘The neighborhood I live in is where Tawanda and Yasir and Todd all interact with one another without incident. It’s who we are.’

    Congratulations. How many times have you had dinner with Tawanda? Yasir?

  220. @Rob
    @Almost Missouri

    Um, maybe? I’ll give it a shot.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    It might have nothing to do with meds. I notice I get sloppy from time to time as part of some kind of wavering-of-consciousness epicycle. (If there is a solution to that other than just to focus more, I don’t know it.) But since you posed the question, I’m sending a reply signal.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Almost Missouri

    Oh, I appreciate the feedback. I’ll write with the Apple keyboard and then edit with Grammarly. I find rereading does not help a lot. I tend to just read what I meant to write.

  221. “Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?

    Were they wrong to do so?

    Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?

    There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.

    Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?

    In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”

    Ohhh stop being so obtuse.

    white flight was the result of blacks moving into gthe neighborhood.

    the crime issue was and remains as disturbing for black citizens, but historically the African
    american lacked the resources and even one muster the cash, there were rules barring them white neighborhood

    I think the documentary on NYC does a fair job on the matter. But his primary response would most likely be that there are dozens of documentaries on white flight.

    and there was this, those who could wanted out of the cities period and when the economic boon hit the country, they simply chose , larger yards, and bigger homes. In otherwords they wuld have left for greener pastures regardless of the skin tone of their neighbors — skin was simply an added motivator

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @EliteCommInc.


    the crime issue was and remains as disturbing for black citizens, but historically the African
    american lacked the resources and even one muster the cash, there were rules barring them white neighborhood
     
    Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap.

    Replies: @anarchyst

  222. @Anonymous
    n.b. 200 posts, a quarter of them Corvinus or people arguing with Corvinus

    Replies: @vinteuil

    …a quarter of them Corvinus or people arguing with Corvinus

    Right. If you really must reply to Corvinus, don’t use the reply tab. Don’t give him his pennies.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @vinteuil

    You make a helluva lot more shekels than I, given you are Mossad. Any reasonable person can see that about you. And the more you protest about it, it only reinforces the truth about your identity.

  223. @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Could you please answer his question?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Abortion culls the herd of low IQ darkie peoples, right? It’s eugenic. In the end, it helps out mightily the pro white cause, correct?

  224. @Intelligent Dasein
    @HammerJack

    I find Scorsese's use of music to be very annoying and intrusive. Dubbing "Layla" over the Goodfellas body-stacking scene has been lauded as a piece of artistic genius, but to me it has always seemed incongruous and just a plain old invitation to lose interest in the movie. Devo's version of "I Can't get no Satisfaction" in Casino is aggravating in the extreme.

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

    That you remember those incidents says something about Scorcese’s use of music.

    I’m curious of your opinion on other director’s use of music.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    @Johnny Rico

    It says that he has a good memory.

  225. @vinteuil
    @Anonymous


     ...a quarter of them Corvinus or people arguing with Corvinus
     Right. If you really must reply to Corvinus, don't use the reply tab. Don't give him his pennies.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You make a helluva lot more shekels than I, given you are Mossad. Any reasonable person can see that about you. And the more you protest about it, it only reinforces the truth about your identity.

  226. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “Where were Slavs, Jews, and Italians disenfranchisd ca. 1920?“

    There wouldn’t need to be if those groups were prohibited from entering in large droves. Hence, the 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts.

    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?

    Consider that…

    —Although Italians were not specifically singled out they were considered by many Americans as part of the “motley throng” which passed through America’s immigration stalls. John Fiske, traveling in Italy, printed his observations that “The lowest Irish are far above the level of these creatures (Italians)” while the great Emerson rejoiced that the early immigrants brought “the light complexion, the blue eyes of Europe” rather than “the black eyes, the black drop” of southern Europe. Before a congressional committee investigating Chinese Immigration in 1891 a west coast construction boss commented that “You don’t call . . . an Italian a white man . . . an Italian is a Dago… In Boston the Italians numbered 7% of the population, yet their arrest rate was 6.1% of the total foreign-born. New York City counted Italians as 11.5% of its population in 1903, yet their arrest rate was about 12% of the foreign total. Indeed, as late as 1963 James W. Vander Zander pointed out that the rate of criminal convictions among Italian immigrants was less than that among American-born whites.”—

    Source: https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/italian-americans-and-their-communities-of-cleveland/chapter/chapter-6-anti-italian-sentiment-in-america/

    So, we’re WASPs wrong in their assessment of these peoples?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?

    I am part Slav and have Jewish and Italian relatives. A bunch of folks here are from similar backgrounds. You on the other hand seem to rely heavily on book knowledge concerning this type of issue.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hibernian

    Your ancestors were deemed unassimilable by WASPs. And your Jewish heritage marks you as an enemy by a number of people here. Why is that?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  227. @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    It might have nothing to do with meds. I notice I get sloppy from time to time as part of some kind of wavering-of-consciousness epicycle. (If there is a solution to that other than just to focus more, I don't know it.) But since you posed the question, I'm sending a reply signal.

    Replies: @Rob

    Oh, I appreciate the feedback. I’ll write with the Apple keyboard and then edit with Grammarly. I find rereading does not help a lot. I tend to just read what I meant to write.

  228. @Hibernian
    @Corvinus


    Are you Slav, Jewish, or Italian?
     
    I am part Slav and have Jewish and Italian relatives. A bunch of folks here are from similar backgrounds. You on the other hand seem to rely heavily on book knowledge concerning this type of issue.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Your ancestors were deemed unassimilable by WASPs. And your Jewish heritage marks you as an enemy by a number of people here. Why is that?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Corvinus

    My Grandfather came from Ireland knowing Greek and Latin which he learned in high school. He retired from the old Western Electric subsidiary of Ma Bell with cartons full of memo pads titled "from the desk of John J. Fitzgibbon." Any Jewish heritage I have is in the same category as Elizabeth Warren's Indian heritage. Do you understand that someone can have relatives, including blood relatives, who are at least partially of an ethnic background other than their own?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  229. Anonymous[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    "Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?

    Were they wrong to do so?

    Are their descendants wrong to move back and gentrify the cities?

    There are millions of now aging people who decided to leave the big cities during the first big crime wave era. Some would no doubt like to tell their stories of why they left. Why do you think the media has shown so little interest in asking them.

    Could there could be some national healing if Ken Burns were to tell their stories?

    In 1979 you were hard at work on your breakthrough “Brooklyn Bridge” documentary that came out in 1981, but you moved from crime-ridden New York to remote Walpole, New Hampshire, which is still 96% white in the 2020 Census. Would it be reasonable to call that an example of “white flight?”


    Ohhh stop being so obtuse.


    white flight was the result of blacks moving into gthe neighborhood.

    the crime issue was and remains as disturbing for black citizens, but historically the African
    american lacked the resources and even one muster the cash, there were rules barring them white neighborhood

    I think the documentary on NYC does a fair job on the matter. But his primary response would most likely be that there are dozens of documentaries on white flight.

    and there was this, those who could wanted out of the cities period and when the economic boon hit the country, they simply chose , larger yards, and bigger homes. In otherwords they wuld have left for greener pastures regardless of the skin tone of their neighbors -- skin was simply an added motivator


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjcCwQfXTx4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT91EanmE1U

    Replies: @Anonymous

    the crime issue was and remains as disturbing for black citizens, but historically the African
    american lacked the resources and even one muster the cash, there were rules barring them white neighborhood

    Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @Anonymous

    Before the advent of the so-called "civil-rights (for some)" movement, there were all-black neighborhoods rivaling that of well-kept white neighborhoods.
    One such neighborhood in Detroit comes to mind--Conant Gardens. Residents were expected to keep up their homes and their surroundings. Those that would not do so were severely sanctioned by their own neighbors. In order to purchase a house in the community, prospective homeowners were "vetted" to make sure that they would understand the "rules" and "fit in", not unlike the restrictive covenants of the day (which are still a good idea to this day).
    Driving down those streets, one could easily imagine themselves in a affluent suburb without realizing that it was an all-black neighborhood. Every residence had a tree planted in front. Whitewash was used to paint the lower parts of the tree white.
    All of that went away with the implementation of "fair housing" laws. No longer could the "riff-raff" be kept out. Conant Gardens deteriorated along with the rest of the city.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  230. @Gordo
    @Verymuchalive


    Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year-old
     
    It was at least one 10 year old, and Hollywood still loves him.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

    There are more allegations out there, but the 13 year-old was the only one that made it to court. Given the background, I’m sure there are more young girls that he raped, some of whom have never come forward.
    Of course, you’re right. ((( Hollywood ))) loves ((( him ))).

  231. “Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap.”

    I am not clear how your comment is responsive to my own. However,

    1. History is rteplete with thriving black communities, that were upended by whtes rioting over some perceived slight or wrong comitted by some blak person. Just yesterday i opted to give myself the snuff film lynching porn test iomn so doing I tooksome time to watch as many documentaries or reference as many articles as i could rearding lynching and rioting and in less than two hours, i was stunned to find that whites had rampaged no less than five black communities and when i say ravaged i mean utter destruction to including aerial bombardment — it was bizarre. I simple had no idea how easy it was fikr whites to make any complaint and get law enforcement or even the natioal guard in an uporoar to aid in the murder, mayhem and removal — primary targets – black owned busineses

    2. Furthermore, you might want to ge4t past the myopic focus on what’s presented on the site . . . in my view african americanas do have their own communities and regulate them as well — and I say eguate with caution. Because no commu nity self regulates without outside access to the mainstream respources. Nice hat trick . . . and that is where the black communities run itno road blocks and detriment — they don’t have mnot until the 1970’s had access to those resources. It is disheartening to learn how often basic resources such as fire, police, maintenance, road ways . . . etc were literally denied or had limited access by black communities. It’s hard to quantify the impact of the police simply refusing services basics that every community relies. It’s hard to quantify that even hospital care was denied or restricted.

    3. I have no issues with segregation, but segregation was the mechanism by white could hamstring the same independent (used with caution) black communities.

    4. you are assuming that my comments means blacks moving into white communities — categorically a false assumption on your part — the point is that those with the resources would move out if crime were a problem and that has nothi to do with being any skin color. People as a rule, look for greener pastures — the blacks that could move would do so, but that move would not be some strange assumption be to awhite community . . . — whatever white community means. Because you apparently havbe no clue how housing worked in the US – zone restrictions based not on crime but skin color and home appraisals . . . it has taken my twenty years to come around, but on the issue of color, this country in prctice and policy left no stone unturned to ensure some manner of special greatment for whites — undeserved as that might be. I have noted the olicies and practices befiore — they are no secret –one just has to look.

    5. Like “acting white”, you’ll have todelinieate “black cuklture” I would be curious to know what that is. And in my view even blacks get this all amuss. The black population is unique in this way in thaty what exists is uniquely US culture with a a myriad variations. What we know and call black culture is that which is promulgated by the media as opposed to something developed among b;lacks. Some 44 million spread out across the expanse of the US people who have no singular ideology or practces and that is not a negative in my view. They are the original US citizen. Those descended from slavery all they know is the US. That is reall thecase . . . whatever can gleaned from Afri ca is very generic , because few if any black people can trace their ethnic roots to to any of the 1000 black civilizations that existed on the continent. When slavery ended they scoured the country looking for sold off loved one’s husbands, kids, cousains, wives, broithers sisters . . . they took off west or headed north to the cities looking for work and a place to live raise family. If they had a culture it was a slave culture and even that was not uniquely universal. But by and lare the black population has adopted the culture of thoe larger community in which they associated and here — because of segregation they developed a cuklture unique unto themselves.

    The one aspect of cultural identity that could categorized as universal — they lived in a hostile country and how they responded to that varied from state to state to state region to region. Rap by the way is a cultural perspective o youth and urban communities and even that varies from city to city.

    jazz is also largely an urban developed genre but blacks have always: engaged in classi cal music, folk, blues, western music — if i had to typify that practice, i think I could agree thatamong the black comunitycoming out of slavery they did have a sense of musical rythm and performance that was unique and akin to one to the other, but that would take some work to trace — but what we as a country have klnown best as to black culture — is what theybrought to religious expresion. particularly the call and response practices

    But again, I am cautious here because blackness is nt a culture, t is a skin color among those of thatskin color we have been able to signify or codify aspects as uniquely black — but in truth . . . the black popuatuion is extremely diverse in where thay are from on the African continent.

    At anyrate . . . long winded . . ,laugh, expending my momentsof lucidity here — probably unwise.

    Black culture such as it exists — I am unclear why it woukld be unlikeable.

    But blacks in the US managed to be lawyers, mathmetcuians, doctors, teachers, entrepeneurs, builders, architects, bankers, musicians, actors, brick layers, service men and women etc. I am not sure there is anything uniquely white or black about those professions

    5. About my forray into lynching porn — i found the entire experience disturbing, not by what was on display, but the depth, breadth and vastness of how whites engaged blacks — it is always forever worse than one thinks and then when one doesn’t think it can get any worse . . . it does.

    Now does that excuse crime, no. But it explains alot about how and why we are weher we are today, which sadly for me . . . is shockingly not very far . . .

    darn it and darn it.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    I suppose that mr Burns is amight frustrated because every story about US development, this great land of ours he and his researchers opt to tell repeatedly comes face to face with how the country has managed to shortchange its black citizens, that must be incredibly frstrating. Every story from every angle -- and no people gets it in the face, in the back, in the side more than the african american citizen. Even native americans got a slice or two of land . . . from coast to coast the story of the black populartion is replete with whites zoning, stealing, community use, financializing black home owners and communities. it's downright bizarre . . .


    If you want to know the US then the history of the black citizen is that story . . . The only people who seem to be deriving any pleasure in the snuff film lynching porn afe those perpetrating the destruction

    well there are those that defend perpetrating. But even they deserve a voice and Mr Unz . . . kindly provides that space.

    , @Art Deco
    @EliteCommInc.

    1. History is rteplete with thriving black communities, that were upended by whtes rioting over some perceived slight or wrong comitted by some blak person.

    History of which places in which country?

    There's been a great deal of noise over events in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921. Tulsa had a black population of about 8,500 in 1920. That aside, the events of 1921 were more an example of inter-communal fratricide than anything else.

    Urban blacks ca. 1925 lived in an archipelago of neighborhoods largely populated by wage earners. There was a business and professional class of modest dimensions living with them. Per Thomas Sowell, the Manhattan neighborhood in which he lived in the 1940s was far safer then than it was 30 years later and had more orderly and effective schools. Wouldn't know how prevalent such a situation was.

  232. @Anonymous
    @EliteCommInc.


    the crime issue was and remains as disturbing for black citizens, but historically the African
    american lacked the resources and even one muster the cash, there were rules barring them white neighborhood
     
    Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    Before the advent of the so-called “civil-rights (for some)” movement, there were all-black neighborhoods rivaling that of well-kept white neighborhoods.
    One such neighborhood in Detroit comes to mind–Conant Gardens. Residents were expected to keep up their homes and their surroundings. Those that would not do so were severely sanctioned by their own neighbors. In order to purchase a house in the community, prospective homeowners were “vetted” to make sure that they would understand the “rules” and “fit in”, not unlike the restrictive covenants of the day (which are still a good idea to this day).
    Driving down those streets, one could easily imagine themselves in a affluent suburb without realizing that it was an all-black neighborhood. Every residence had a tree planted in front. Whitewash was used to paint the lower parts of the tree white.
    All of that went away with the implementation of “fair housing” laws. No longer could the “riff-raff” be kept out. Conant Gardens deteriorated along with the rest of the city.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anarchyst

    I don't get that tree whitewashing thing, Anarchyst. I've seen that a lot in China, but not much in this country. Is that what they do in Detroit, and why?

  233. @EliteCommInc.
    "Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap."


    I am not clear how your comment is responsive to my own. However,


    1. History is rteplete with thriving black communities, that were upended by whtes rioting over some perceived slight or wrong comitted by some blak person. Just yesterday i opted to give myself the snuff film lynching porn test iomn so doing I tooksome time to watch as many documentaries or reference as many articles as i could rearding lynching and rioting and in less than two hours, i was stunned to find that whites had rampaged no less than five black communities and when i say ravaged i mean utter destruction to including aerial bombardment -- it was bizarre. I simple had no idea how easy it was fikr whites to make any complaint and get law enforcement or even the natioal guard in an uporoar to aid in the murder, mayhem and removal -- primary targets - black owned busineses

    2. Furthermore, you might want to ge4t past the myopic focus on what's presented on the site . . . in my view african americanas do have their own communities and regulate them as well -- and I say eguate with caution. Because no commu nity self regulates without outside access to the mainstream respources. Nice hat trick . . . and that is where the black communities run itno road blocks and detriment -- they don't have mnot until the 1970's had access to those resources. It is disheartening to learn how often basic resources such as fire, police, maintenance, road ways . . . etc were literally denied or had limited access by black communities. It's hard to quantify the impact of the police simply refusing services basics that every community relies. It's hard to quantify that even hospital care was denied or restricted.

    3. I have no issues with segregation, but segregation was the mechanism by white could hamstring the same independent (used with caution) black communities.

    4. you are assuming that my comments means blacks moving into white communities -- categorically a false assumption on your part -- the point is that those with the resources would move out if crime were a problem and that has nothi to do with being any skin color. People as a rule, look for greener pastures --- the blacks that could move would do so, but that move would not be some strange assumption be to awhite community . . . -- whatever white community means. Because you apparently havbe no clue how housing worked in the US - zone restrictions based not on crime but skin color and home appraisals . . . it has taken my twenty years to come around, but on the issue of color, this country in prctice and policy left no stone unturned to ensure some manner of special greatment for whites --- undeserved as that might be. I have noted the olicies and practices befiore -- they are no secret --one just has to look.

    5. Like "acting white", you'll have todelinieate "black cuklture" I would be curious to know what that is. And in my view even blacks get this all amuss. The black population is unique in this way in thaty what exists is uniquely US culture with a a myriad variations. What we know and call black culture is that which is promulgated by the media as opposed to something developed among b;lacks. Some 44 million spread out across the expanse of the US people who have no singular ideology or practces and that is not a negative in my view. They are the original US citizen. Those descended from slavery all they know is the US. That is reall thecase . . . whatever can gleaned from Afri ca is very generic , because few if any black people can trace their ethnic roots to to any of the 1000 black civilizations that existed on the continent. When slavery ended they scoured the country looking for sold off loved one's husbands, kids, cousains, wives, broithers sisters . . . they took off west or headed north to the cities looking for work and a place to live raise family. If they had a culture it was a slave culture and even that was not uniquely universal. But by and lare the black population has adopted the culture of thoe larger community in which they associated and here -- because of segregation they developed a cuklture unique unto themselves.

    The one aspect of cultural identity that could categorized as universal -- they lived in a hostile country and how they responded to that varied from state to state to state region to region. Rap by the way is a cultural perspective o youth and urban communities and even that varies from city to city.

    jazz is also largely an urban developed genre but blacks have always: engaged in classi cal music, folk, blues, western music -- if i had to typify that practice, i think I could agree thatamong the black comunitycoming out of slavery they did have a sense of musical rythm and performance that was unique and akin to one to the other, but that would take some work to trace -- but what we as a country have klnown best as to black culture -- is what theybrought to religious expresion. particularly the call and response practices

    But again, I am cautious here because blackness is nt a culture, t is a skin color among those of thatskin color we have been able to signify or codify aspects as uniquely black -- but in truth . . . the black popuatuion is extremely diverse in where thay are from on the African continent.


    At anyrate . . . long winded . . ,laugh, expending my momentsof lucidity here -- probably unwise.

    Black culture such as it exists -- I am unclear why it woukld be unlikeable.

    But blacks in the US managed to be lawyers, mathmetcuians, doctors, teachers, entrepeneurs, builders, architects, bankers, musicians, actors, brick layers, service men and women etc. I am not sure there is anything uniquely white or black about those professions


    5. About my forray into lynching porn --- i found the entire experience disturbing, not by what was on display, but the depth, breadth and vastness of how whites engaged blacks -- it is always forever worse than one thinks and then when one doesn't think it can get any worse . . . it does.




    Now does that excuse crime, no. But it explains alot about how and why we are weher we are today, which sadly for me . . . is shockingly not very far . . .


    darn it and darn it.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Art Deco

    I suppose that mr Burns is amight frustrated because every story about US development, this great land of ours he and his researchers opt to tell repeatedly comes face to face with how the country has managed to shortchange its black citizens, that must be incredibly frstrating. Every story from every angle — and no people gets it in the face, in the back, in the side more than the african american citizen. Even native americans got a slice or two of land . . . from coast to coast the story of the black populartion is replete with whites zoning, stealing, community use, financializing black home owners and communities. it’s downright bizarre . . .

    If you want to know the US then the history of the black citizen is that story . . . The only people who seem to be deriving any pleasure in the snuff film lynching porn afe those perpetrating the destruction

    well there are those that defend perpetrating. But even they deserve a voice and Mr Unz . . . kindly provides that space.

  234. @anarchyst
    @Anonymous

    Before the advent of the so-called "civil-rights (for some)" movement, there were all-black neighborhoods rivaling that of well-kept white neighborhoods.
    One such neighborhood in Detroit comes to mind--Conant Gardens. Residents were expected to keep up their homes and their surroundings. Those that would not do so were severely sanctioned by their own neighbors. In order to purchase a house in the community, prospective homeowners were "vetted" to make sure that they would understand the "rules" and "fit in", not unlike the restrictive covenants of the day (which are still a good idea to this day).
    Driving down those streets, one could easily imagine themselves in a affluent suburb without realizing that it was an all-black neighborhood. Every residence had a tree planted in front. Whitewash was used to paint the lower parts of the tree white.
    All of that went away with the implementation of "fair housing" laws. No longer could the "riff-raff" be kept out. Conant Gardens deteriorated along with the rest of the city.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t get that tree whitewashing thing, Anarchyst. I’ve seen that a lot in China, but not much in this country. Is that what they do in Detroit, and why?

  235. “All of that went away with the implementation of “fair housing” laws. No longer could the “riff-raff” be kept out. Conant Gardens deteriorated along with the rest of the city.”

    All that went away when the economy of Detroit collapsed and those well paid individuals lost their incomes just like the whites, just in larger numbers.

  236. @Reality Cheque

    Have you ever thought about doing a documentary on why so many millions of whites moved out of the big cities in the 1960s and the 1970s?
     
    Were the people they were moving away from immigrants?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    They were moving away from federal judges’ school desegregation orders.

  237. @Corvinus
    @Hibernian

    Your ancestors were deemed unassimilable by WASPs. And your Jewish heritage marks you as an enemy by a number of people here. Why is that?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    My Grandfather came from Ireland knowing Greek and Latin which he learned in high school. He retired from the old Western Electric subsidiary of Ma Bell with cartons full of memo pads titled “from the desk of John J. Fitzgibbon.” Any Jewish heritage I have is in the same category as Elizabeth Warren’s Indian heritage. Do you understand that someone can have relatives, including blood relatives, who are at least partially of an ethnic background other than their own?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hibernian

    “Do you understand that someone can have relatives, including blood relatives, who are at least partially of an ethnic background other than their own?”

    Of course. I wasn’t disputing that point. So why were your ancestors deemed unassimilable by WASPs? Were they wrong in their assessment that was based on HbD logic?

    “Any Jewish heritage…”

    Doesn’t matter. Any drop you have, you’re part of an enemy tribe. Not by me, but according to quote a few fine posters here at Unz.

  238. @RadicalCenter
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Who wants to live in shitty arizona.

    Replies: @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Who wants to live in shitty arizona.

    Judging by the out-of-state plates I see constantly, tons and tons of Californians.

  239. @Hibernian
    @Corvinus

    My Grandfather came from Ireland knowing Greek and Latin which he learned in high school. He retired from the old Western Electric subsidiary of Ma Bell with cartons full of memo pads titled "from the desk of John J. Fitzgibbon." Any Jewish heritage I have is in the same category as Elizabeth Warren's Indian heritage. Do you understand that someone can have relatives, including blood relatives, who are at least partially of an ethnic background other than their own?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Do you understand that someone can have relatives, including blood relatives, who are at least partially of an ethnic background other than their own?”

    Of course. I wasn’t disputing that point. So why were your ancestors deemed unassimilable by WASPs? Were they wrong in their assessment that was based on HbD logic?

    “Any Jewish heritage…”

    Doesn’t matter. Any drop you have, you’re part of an enemy tribe. Not by me, but according to quote a few fine posters here at Unz.

  240. @Johnny Rico
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That you remember those incidents says something about Scorcese's use of music.

    I'm curious of your opinion on other director's use of music.

    Replies: @Liberty Mike

    It says that he has a good memory.

  241. @EliteCommInc.
    "Black citizens aren’t helpless victims. If they really didn’t like black culture, they would be free to self-organize and regulate their own communities. Instead, they promote gangsta rap."


    I am not clear how your comment is responsive to my own. However,


    1. History is rteplete with thriving black communities, that were upended by whtes rioting over some perceived slight or wrong comitted by some blak person. Just yesterday i opted to give myself the snuff film lynching porn test iomn so doing I tooksome time to watch as many documentaries or reference as many articles as i could rearding lynching and rioting and in less than two hours, i was stunned to find that whites had rampaged no less than five black communities and when i say ravaged i mean utter destruction to including aerial bombardment -- it was bizarre. I simple had no idea how easy it was fikr whites to make any complaint and get law enforcement or even the natioal guard in an uporoar to aid in the murder, mayhem and removal -- primary targets - black owned busineses

    2. Furthermore, you might want to ge4t past the myopic focus on what's presented on the site . . . in my view african americanas do have their own communities and regulate them as well -- and I say eguate with caution. Because no commu nity self regulates without outside access to the mainstream respources. Nice hat trick . . . and that is where the black communities run itno road blocks and detriment -- they don't have mnot until the 1970's had access to those resources. It is disheartening to learn how often basic resources such as fire, police, maintenance, road ways . . . etc were literally denied or had limited access by black communities. It's hard to quantify the impact of the police simply refusing services basics that every community relies. It's hard to quantify that even hospital care was denied or restricted.

    3. I have no issues with segregation, but segregation was the mechanism by white could hamstring the same independent (used with caution) black communities.

    4. you are assuming that my comments means blacks moving into white communities -- categorically a false assumption on your part -- the point is that those with the resources would move out if crime were a problem and that has nothi to do with being any skin color. People as a rule, look for greener pastures --- the blacks that could move would do so, but that move would not be some strange assumption be to awhite community . . . -- whatever white community means. Because you apparently havbe no clue how housing worked in the US - zone restrictions based not on crime but skin color and home appraisals . . . it has taken my twenty years to come around, but on the issue of color, this country in prctice and policy left no stone unturned to ensure some manner of special greatment for whites --- undeserved as that might be. I have noted the olicies and practices befiore -- they are no secret --one just has to look.

    5. Like "acting white", you'll have todelinieate "black cuklture" I would be curious to know what that is. And in my view even blacks get this all amuss. The black population is unique in this way in thaty what exists is uniquely US culture with a a myriad variations. What we know and call black culture is that which is promulgated by the media as opposed to something developed among b;lacks. Some 44 million spread out across the expanse of the US people who have no singular ideology or practces and that is not a negative in my view. They are the original US citizen. Those descended from slavery all they know is the US. That is reall thecase . . . whatever can gleaned from Afri ca is very generic , because few if any black people can trace their ethnic roots to to any of the 1000 black civilizations that existed on the continent. When slavery ended they scoured the country looking for sold off loved one's husbands, kids, cousains, wives, broithers sisters . . . they took off west or headed north to the cities looking for work and a place to live raise family. If they had a culture it was a slave culture and even that was not uniquely universal. But by and lare the black population has adopted the culture of thoe larger community in which they associated and here -- because of segregation they developed a cuklture unique unto themselves.

    The one aspect of cultural identity that could categorized as universal -- they lived in a hostile country and how they responded to that varied from state to state to state region to region. Rap by the way is a cultural perspective o youth and urban communities and even that varies from city to city.

    jazz is also largely an urban developed genre but blacks have always: engaged in classi cal music, folk, blues, western music -- if i had to typify that practice, i think I could agree thatamong the black comunitycoming out of slavery they did have a sense of musical rythm and performance that was unique and akin to one to the other, but that would take some work to trace -- but what we as a country have klnown best as to black culture -- is what theybrought to religious expresion. particularly the call and response practices

    But again, I am cautious here because blackness is nt a culture, t is a skin color among those of thatskin color we have been able to signify or codify aspects as uniquely black -- but in truth . . . the black popuatuion is extremely diverse in where thay are from on the African continent.


    At anyrate . . . long winded . . ,laugh, expending my momentsof lucidity here -- probably unwise.

    Black culture such as it exists -- I am unclear why it woukld be unlikeable.

    But blacks in the US managed to be lawyers, mathmetcuians, doctors, teachers, entrepeneurs, builders, architects, bankers, musicians, actors, brick layers, service men and women etc. I am not sure there is anything uniquely white or black about those professions


    5. About my forray into lynching porn --- i found the entire experience disturbing, not by what was on display, but the depth, breadth and vastness of how whites engaged blacks -- it is always forever worse than one thinks and then when one doesn't think it can get any worse . . . it does.




    Now does that excuse crime, no. But it explains alot about how and why we are weher we are today, which sadly for me . . . is shockingly not very far . . .


    darn it and darn it.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Art Deco

    1. History is rteplete with thriving black communities, that were upended by whtes rioting over some perceived slight or wrong comitted by some blak person.

    History of which places in which country?

    There’s been a great deal of noise over events in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921. Tulsa had a black population of about 8,500 in 1920. That aside, the events of 1921 were more an example of inter-communal fratricide than anything else.

    Urban blacks ca. 1925 lived in an archipelago of neighborhoods largely populated by wage earners. There was a business and professional class of modest dimensions living with them. Per Thomas Sowell, the Manhattan neighborhood in which he lived in the 1940s was far safer then than it was 30 years later and had more orderly and effective schools. Wouldn’t know how prevalent such a situation was.

  242. @BosTex
    I lived through the Boston School Desegregation crisis (1st grade was 1974; my wife always says: “weren’t you bothered by the blacks?” Never had a problem.)

    To this day: I do not know why, I am not particularly fearsome or brutal. I just never had a problem with them. For some reason, I was left in peace.

    I will tell you: in retrospect, this was the most totalitarian project I have witnessed. Shipping school children (little kids to travel hours on end!), hither and yon to achieve “racial balance”.

    One of our family friends (not born in the US, read a book about this event, his conclusion: “I cannot believe this happened here.”)

    Many/most whites quickly made an exit to private or parochial schools or their families left for the suburbs.

    It was truly sickening. Frankly, I have to think it was deliberate ethnic cleansing.

    I finally ended up in a private school 10-12 grade.

    The public schools were thoroughly dominated by the blacks at that point and, even if you “didn’t have a problem” the schools had been run to the very bottom with no discipline or learning available.

    Our neighborhood remained intact for a few more years (basically Irish American; we also had Vietnamese added to the mix: I will have to say that I like the Vietnamese—-hard working, family people, did their best to fit in. They are ok. If we have to take immigrants, we can do much worse than the Vietnamese people).

    Now I think the neighborhood is mostly Dominican. Which is just a disaster for all
    Concerned.

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

    They still do it. All the kids at Brighton High School are black and all the white kids in Brighton go to private probably Catholic Schools.

    • Replies: @BosTex
    @Johnny Rico

    Thanks Johnny. I imagine there would have to be no white kids left in the Boston Public Schools to bus? Or the white kids can just go anywhere?

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

  243. @Johnny Rico
    @BosTex

    They still do it. All the kids at Brighton High School are black and all the white kids in Brighton go to private probably Catholic Schools.

    Replies: @BosTex

    Thanks Johnny. I imagine there would have to be no white kids left in the Boston Public Schools to bus? Or the white kids can just go anywhere?

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    @BosTex

    I have a friend who is a middle-school teacher downtown. It is all Asian, Hispanic, and Black kids. Ironically, the few whites are Ukrainian. Or maybe that's not irony.

  244. @BosTex
    @Johnny Rico

    Thanks Johnny. I imagine there would have to be no white kids left in the Boston Public Schools to bus? Or the white kids can just go anywhere?

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

    I have a friend who is a middle-school teacher downtown. It is all Asian, Hispanic, and Black kids. Ironically, the few whites are Ukrainian. Or maybe that’s not irony.

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