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From Variety:

‘Queen’s Gambit’ Wins Golden Globes for Best Limited Series, Actress for Anya Taylor-Joy

By Danielle Turchiano

“The Queen’s Gambit” just said “checkmate” to its first big awards.

Netflix’s hit chess adaptation took home two top prizes at Sunday night’s Golden Globes: limited series, anthology or TV movie and limited series/TV movie actress for star Anya Taylor-Joy. …

Taylor-Joy is the first Latina to win in this category. …

UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.

Like a lot of British actresses recently, Taylor-Joy is from the upper crust. From Wikipedia:

Anya Josephine Marie Taylor-Joy was born on 16 April 1996 in Miami, Florida, the youngest of six children. Her mother, Jennifer Marina Joy, is a psychologist who was born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father, Dennis Alan Taylor, is an Argentine of Scottish heritage. He was an international banker who changed careers to become a professional racer in offshore powerboat racing, where he won two Union Internationale Motonautique world championships. Taylor was also the director of a private jet hire company. Her parents are both conservationists.

The family moved to Buenos Aires when Taylor-Joy was an infant, and she spoke mostly Spanish while growing up. Her father was awarded an MBE in the 1982 New Year Honours (for services to the British community in Buenos Aires) and an OBE in 1998 (for services to British trade with Argentina). She lived in Buenos Aires until age six, when the family moved to the Victoria area of London. Taylor-Joy was traumatised by the move and refused to speak English for two years, believing this would force her parents to move the family back to Argentina. She attended the preparatory school Hill House in Chelsea and Queen’s Gate School in South Kensington, with a stint at Northlands School in Argentina in between. She trained in ballet.

Taylor-Joy holds triple British, American, and Argentine citizenship.

 
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  1. So, it’s official: “democracy” is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @nebulafox


    So, it’s official: “democracy” is preserving the duopoly.
     
    I think his point is that too many voters don’t find a home for their beliefs in either party.

    I can cite myself as an example. I won’t vote for Democrats because they are batshit crazy an all things involving race, welfare, and public education (which they now treat as little more than brainwashing).

    But Republicans don’t make any great effort to reverse the Democrats on any of these issues, and the first (and sometimes last) “conservative” thing they do when they take control is cut taxes for the rich.

    So yes, the man has a valid point, so far as I’m concerned.

    Of course the real problem is the increasing centralization of power in Washington, and the ever-increasing number of issues governed by them. You can only vote for one representative, one senator, one president, but their views count for thousands of issues, and you can’t really hope to agree with them on most of them. You can’t recall them and can’t override them. If we get a massive amnesty bill, which I eventually expect we will, it will be against the will of a solid majority of the American people, but there ain’t jack shit we will be able to do to reverse it, short of revolution.

    Our democracy has serious need of reform, yet it seems unlikely it will happen anytime soon

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @interesting
    @nebulafox

    "This disaffiliation from the two major parties is very dangerous for democracy"

    Bullshit, it's the exact opposite.

    , @AnotherDad
    @nebulafox

    -- Trump's post-election (incompetent) drama cost the Republicans 5 points.
    -- The installation of the Biden minoritarian regime and what they actually stand for cost them 5 points.

    The actual threat to actual democracy is minoritarianism--and it's partner immigrationism; media lying and bloated elite parasitism in its wake.

    , @Charles St. Charles
    @nebulafox


    HALF of Americans now identify as Independents.
    This is a record-high in Gallup polling. And a huge jump since the election.
    This disaffiliation from the two major parties is very dangerous for democracy. It reveals deep, deep dissatisfaction. https://t.co/01p54BAiRA pic.twitter.com/6IgzRltAod

    — Lee Drutman (@leedrutman) March 1, 2021
     
    Being “Independent” is a threat to oligarchy, not democracy.
    , @SFG
    @nebulafox

    The dude's literally written a book called "Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy."

    Whatever his other sins...

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @nebulafox

    Well, the secret is that "Independents" aren't really independent. When push comes to shove almost all of them know which party they will vote for. But for good reason, they don't want to be tied as a "member" to every dumb thing "their" party does.

    It's interesting that 5% of voters immediately jumped from Democrat to Independent the week Biden actually took office. I guess that's a good measure of who was only an anti-Trump Democrat as opposed to a pro-Biden Democrat.

    , @Guest007
    @nebulafox

    It does not matter how the voter identifies. It matters how they vote. About 43% of Americans are automatic Republican voter even if they call themselves independent. About 47% of voters are automatic Democratic Party voters. Most elections are deficied my the number of automatic voters in a state or district. The few competitive elecitons are decided more by base turnout than swing voters.

    What no one wants to discuss is how few swing voters there are anymore and how few elections are competitive..

  2. Sounds pretty diverse to me.

    • Agree: Traveler 3468
  3. I watched “Queen’s Gambit” and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance… and I never thought of her as anything other than white.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @raga10

    First saw her in movie "Split" where her and Scottish actor James McAvoy were the lead actors, I thought the same thing.

    , @Charles St. Charles
    @raga10

    “I watched “Queen’s Gambit” and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance”

    My wife and I enjoyed the show. What surprised us the most was we kept waiting for one of the white male authority, father, teacher, brother, friend, rival, lover characters to abuse or betray the female lead, but it never happened. Not very 2020.

    BTW: she’s neither White nor Latina, she’s definitely from off-planet...

    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    @raga10

    Isn't she just Spanish though?

    Anglo-Spanish at worst.

    Ohh and totally agree, first saw her in Peaky Blinders. Memorable performance. I think it is her face: not pretty, cute or even beautiful but very, very, very interesting to look at.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @raga10

    I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Way too slow. Maybe you have to like chess to appreciate it.

    Replies: @raga10

  4. She had quite an impressive presence in that role, but the plain white Irish girl from Normal People got robbed.

  5. Taylor-Joy holds triple British, American, and Argentine citizenship.

    She was in the Salem witch trials-inspired horror movie “The Witch,” and did not look remotely “Latina.”

    I have heretofore dedicated my life to pursuing a second and maybe even third citizenships for me and my family. It may be useful in the coming years. Besides, it’s not like citizenship means anything anymore – the government sees citizens as cattle, not human beings – so why the hell not?

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Disagree: notsaying
  6. offshore powerboat racing

    private jet hire

    conservationists

    One of these things is not like the others. But unlike most rich people who live an opulent, polluting lifestyle, the Taylor-Joys were at least willing to tell the rest of us how we should live. If only more celebrities could be the same.

    • LOL: Lurker
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @jon

    If her parents can be "conservationists" then she can be a "white Latina".

    And "I aaaaaaaaam a Grimwald warrior!"

    https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K_317_-_The_Saga_of_the_Viking_Women_and_Their_Voyage_to_the_Waters_of_the_Great_Sea_Serpent

  7. born and raised in Zambia

    And here I thought Zambia was in Africa.

    • Replies: @unit472
    @Louis Renault

    " Zambia" was once better known as Northern Rhodesia. A fact that probably explains Taylor Joy's mother being born and raised there.

    , @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Louis Renault

    This is even more insidious that it looks. The actress in question is 24 and, per Wikipedia, is the youngest of 6. Let’s assume 2.5 years between births, for the sake of argument. The eldest is 15 years older than the youngest. Let’s suppose the first was born at a maternal age of 21. That means the mother was NOT born in Zambia, she was born in Northern Rhodesia.
    There’s something sad and tragic about the white washing of history. Calling her mother’s birthplace “Zambia” is literally gaslighting in a strict sense, and it goes entirely unchallenged.

  8. Another example of the idiotic Woke mania to racially categorize and reward/punish people accordingly.

    “Latino/Latina/Latinx” is and always has been a fake descriptor. Such people may or may not be fully Caucasian or other race. They may or may not be native speakers of Spanish or Portuguese.

    The only utility in this WokeSpeak is to alert others that users of such language are not to be trusted or relied upon for truth purposes. Hearing blather about race, gender, sexual orientation, et. al. ad. infinitum is a cue to tune out and remove oneself from the vicinity of the WokeSpeaker.

    • Agree: Icy Blast, TWS
  9. Her mother … born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father … is an Argentine of Scottish heritage.

    Mom was a European with some Spanish background. Dad was a Scottish guy living in Latin America. Does being a fake Latinx on both sides make her fake status as a Latinx less fake? I lived in a foreign country for a good chunk of my adult life, can I abandon my Whiteness, too?

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @jon

    my old hood got overrun by mexicans. Uhm,does that male ME a white latino?

    Replies: @jon

    , @AceDeuce
    @jon

    Hey, she's the same ethnic mix as Che Guevara, except his dad had Irish blood, not Scottish. Che was 100% White European, just like the current "Latino" Pope, who's 100% Italian.

    , @Anonymous
    @jon

    Magically spaniards have lept the intersectional totem pole. Rafa Nadal and King Juan Carlos are now poc !

    Racial preferences in education and employment over white children descended from the men and women who created the English speaking populations of north America. (Despite enormous military attacks from spaniards and meztizo indians who viscerally opposed their presence for centuries.)

    Now desperate to escape the failed corrupt societies they created in their own lands and get that racial graft. Make up a story and Bidens kabal will lay out the carpet for you.

    # mass immigration

  10. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    So, it’s official: “democracy” is preserving the duopoly.

    I think his point is that too many voters don’t find a home for their beliefs in either party.

    I can cite myself as an example. I won’t vote for Democrats because they are batshit crazy an all things involving race, welfare, and public education (which they now treat as little more than brainwashing).

    But Republicans don’t make any great effort to reverse the Democrats on any of these issues, and the first (and sometimes last) “conservative” thing they do when they take control is cut taxes for the rich.

    So yes, the man has a valid point, so far as I’m concerned.

    Of course the real problem is the increasing centralization of power in Washington, and the ever-increasing number of issues governed by them. You can only vote for one representative, one senator, one president, but their views count for thousands of issues, and you can’t really hope to agree with them on most of them. You can’t recall them and can’t override them. If we get a massive amnesty bill, which I eventually expect we will, it will be against the will of a solid majority of the American people, but there ain’t jack shit we will be able to do to reverse it, short of revolution.

    Our democracy has serious need of reform, yet it seems unlikely it will happen anytime soon

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Wilkey

    (As someone who both parties-for different reasons-would likely look at with a great deal of contempt, I get you. Really, America's got some pretty deep structural problems right now, and changing the septuagenarian in charge in the White House doesn't change much.)

    Right. And if voters sense that mainstream politicians aren't going to fix their problems-or even talk about them honestly-they will turn to decidedly non-mainstream ones. Same for sources of information.

    But that the political and "expert" classes can think that this is anybody's fault but theirs reveals more about them than the voters. Frankly, the Democrats and Republicans *deserve* to be burnt to the ground and replaced with something new. Don't agree? Then fix the parties.

  11. She was spectacular in ‘The Witch’

    And obviously has zero Amerindian in her

  12. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    “This disaffiliation from the two major parties is very dangerous for democracy”

    Bullshit, it’s the exact opposite.

  13. @Wilkey
    @nebulafox


    So, it’s official: “democracy” is preserving the duopoly.
     
    I think his point is that too many voters don’t find a home for their beliefs in either party.

    I can cite myself as an example. I won’t vote for Democrats because they are batshit crazy an all things involving race, welfare, and public education (which they now treat as little more than brainwashing).

    But Republicans don’t make any great effort to reverse the Democrats on any of these issues, and the first (and sometimes last) “conservative” thing they do when they take control is cut taxes for the rich.

    So yes, the man has a valid point, so far as I’m concerned.

    Of course the real problem is the increasing centralization of power in Washington, and the ever-increasing number of issues governed by them. You can only vote for one representative, one senator, one president, but their views count for thousands of issues, and you can’t really hope to agree with them on most of them. You can’t recall them and can’t override them. If we get a massive amnesty bill, which I eventually expect we will, it will be against the will of a solid majority of the American people, but there ain’t jack shit we will be able to do to reverse it, short of revolution.

    Our democracy has serious need of reform, yet it seems unlikely it will happen anytime soon

    Replies: @nebulafox

    (As someone who both parties-for different reasons-would likely look at with a great deal of contempt, I get you. Really, America’s got some pretty deep structural problems right now, and changing the septuagenarian in charge in the White House doesn’t change much.)

    Right. And if voters sense that mainstream politicians aren’t going to fix their problems-or even talk about them honestly-they will turn to decidedly non-mainstream ones. Same for sources of information.

    But that the political and “expert” classes can think that this is anybody’s fault but theirs reveals more about them than the voters. Frankly, the Democrats and Republicans *deserve* to be burnt to the ground and replaced with something new. Don’t agree? Then fix the parties.

    • Agree: El Dato
  14. UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.

    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @syonredux

    I have heard The Democrat Run Mainstream refer to Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti as a "Person Of Color".

    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E's old Compton neighborhood!

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @El Dato
    @syonredux

    It's like her eyes do not really belong to her face.

    My mind is going ...

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon, @additionalMike

    , @syonredux
    @syonredux

    The Woke Daily Dot wants people to know that Taylor-Joy acknowledges her Whiteness:


    Many of Taylor-Joy’s fans pointed to a 2018 Vulture profile of the actress where she discussed her Latina identity and the “weird mash-up” of growing up in Argentina before immigrating to the U.K. But Taylor-Joy never described herself as a woman of color; she acknowledged her white privilege that although she is Latina, she doesn’t want to take roles away from non-white Latinx people.
     

    “I’m aware of the fact I don’t look like a typical Latin person, and that’s not fair,” Taylor-Joy told Vulture. “I don’t want to be someone that you can just sub in for that role when I’m really white and blonde.”
     
    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/golden-globes-anya-taylor-joy-latina-woc-label/

    Replies: @notsaying

    , @Verymuchalive
    @syonredux

    Huh, you're a guy working in US liberal arts Academia whilst being a crypto-conservative ( not quite crypto-Armenian mode yet! ).
    But you've got a Litwak Jewish grandad, so maybe you should play the Jewish POC card yourself. It would surely make your working life much easier.
    Syonredux, time you became Zionredux !

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    , @J.Ross
    @syonredux

    Is this the power of The Hispanic Century?
    >be space alien
    >look like a space alien
    >sometimes get deliberately photographed in such a way as to emphasize the big visitor eyes
    >wear a shirt decorated with arcade invader UFOs just to ram home the point
    >attempt to explain to Earthlings about the advanced alien civilization and giving up nukes
    >Earthlings: "Right, so you're Latina?"

    Replies: @James O'Meara, @the one they call Desanex

    , @Mike Tre
    @syonredux

    She has bat shit crazy girlfriend written all over her:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gwtk4nMaUM0/maxresdefault.jpg

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Alden, @MEH 0910

    , @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @syonredux

    I’d hit it.

    In fact, I think most normal straight guys would.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  15. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    I have heard The Democrat Run Mainstream refer to Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti as a “Person Of Color”.

    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E’s old Compton neighborhood!

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Luzzatto


    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E’s old Compton neighborhood!
     
    Except that Compton was 65% Latino way back in 2010!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton,_California#Demographics

    Pretty sure iSteve has touched on how that shift happened...MSM sure won't...

    Replies: @Luzzatto

  16. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    It’s like her eyes do not really belong to her face.

    My mind is going …

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    , @anon
    @El Dato

    She's left-eye dominant for a start. But I think if she was in Gondor she would self-identify as part Elf.

    , @additionalMike
    @El Dato

    It's OK, Hal...sing us a song.

  17. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    The Woke Daily Dot wants people to know that Taylor-Joy acknowledges her Whiteness:

    Many of Taylor-Joy’s fans pointed to a 2018 Vulture profile of the actress where she discussed her Latina identity and the “weird mash-up” of growing up in Argentina before immigrating to the U.K. But Taylor-Joy never described herself as a woman of color; she acknowledged her white privilege that although she is Latina, she doesn’t want to take roles away from non-white Latinx people.

    “I’m aware of the fact I don’t look like a typical Latin person, and that’s not fair,” Taylor-Joy told Vulture. “I don’t want to be someone that you can just sub in for that role when I’m really white and blonde.”

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/golden-globes-anya-taylor-joy-latina-woc-label/

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @syonredux

    She seems to be trying to be as honest as she can about her background. Granted if she tried to claim she was Hispanic there would be an uproar.

    It's interesting that other white people tried to give her the mantle of being typically Hispanic that she herself did not claim. They are so eager to have minorities win awards that they will label Hispanics of mostly European descent who grew up mostly outside of the Americas as Hispanic.

  18. Yup, *Slightly Exotic Cat-Eyed Female of European Ancestry* alert. Who speaks Spanish! So yesterday to be Huwhite when all it takes to escape the plantation is fake tan and eyeliner. You can even be a blonde!

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  19. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    family moved to the Victoria area of London. Taylor-Joy was traumatised by the move and refused to speak English for two years

    Not even for, how you say, la familia?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    The Baldwins are in the news again:

    https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1366539260757598213

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @notsaying, @El Dato

    , @Walsh2
    @Anonymous

    She's the best actor in the family. Wonder how Billy felt when he got bumped from 3rd to 4th place?

  20. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    — Trump’s post-election (incompetent) drama cost the Republicans 5 points.
    — The installation of the Biden minoritarian regime and what they actually stand for cost them 5 points.

    The actual threat to actual democracy is minoritarianism–and it’s partner immigrationism; media lying and bloated elite parasitism in its wake.

    • Agree: WhiteWinger
  21. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Huh, you’re a guy working in US liberal arts Academia whilst being a crypto-conservative ( not quite crypto-Armenian mode yet! ).
    But you’ve got a Litwak Jewish grandad, so maybe you should play the Jewish POC card yourself. It would surely make your working life much easier.
    Syonredux, time you became Zionredux !

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Verymuchalive

    Jews are not considered POC. If they were the Jewish William Shatner kissing a POC woman on Star Trek would not have been considered interracial and extremely controversial at the time. It would have just been oh it's just 2 POC people kissing each other no huge deal!

  22. As it happens, when I’m told some actress has won the Golden Globes for something, all I can wonder about for a few moments is her golden globes, if you know what I mean. Just look at Patricia Arquette’s picture from last year.

    Which brings us to the more important question, why isn’t this the Black Globes? Not that I’m wondering when Black women win, but my family did get National Geographic when I was a kid.

    Anyway, I think Golden Globes is pretty explicitly racist. Not to mention misogynist, especially since women won mostly everything, which just makes me think about it even more.

  23. OT-

    Yo, bitches, the ebooks for Jonathan Franzen’s THE CORRECTIONS and Daniel Kahneman’s THINKING FAST & SLOW (subject of Steve’s TAKI’s essay from last week) are both on sale for $4.99 today at Amazon, Google, etc. Never saw the former below $10 so I’m super jazzed!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Abe

    The Corrections is great. You all should treat yourselves to a copy and read it.

    , @Lockean Proviso
    @Abe

    Paperback hard copies are available on ebay with free shipping for less than $4. eBay is a good source for older titles and is often cheaper than amazon's used prices.

    Franzen is a good read. Even though he's a liberal, in Freedom he had several of his liberal characters be naive and foolish and conservative ones next door pwn them. It was one of the first novels to cover gentrification, yuppie liberals, and consequences of their lifestyles, as well as importance of family ties.

    , @duncsbaby
    @Abe

    Sorry, not contributing to the Bezos fortune anymore. I get my books on ebay and thriftbooks for about a $1 cheaper normally.

  24. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Is this the power of The Hispanic Century?
    >be space alien
    >look like a space alien
    >sometimes get deliberately photographed in such a way as to emphasize the big visitor eyes
    >wear a shirt decorated with arcade invader UFOs just to ram home the point
    >attempt to explain to Earthlings about the advanced alien civilization and giving up nukes
    >Earthlings: “Right, so you’re Latina?”

    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @J.Ross

    I was going to post something about "are Greys persons of color" and was trying to find a list of the various UFO species and found on that has this, which is new to me.

    "The Nordics would look just like humans and they would have long blonde hair that would be maintained by both male aliens as well as the female ones. These aliens are not identifiable even if they walk among a crowd. The only way to identify them is when they manifest some of their extraterrestrial activities. These aliens usually have angular faces with blue eyes. The females of the Nordic alien type have a high sex appeal."

    http://proofofalien.com/top-10-different-types-of-alien-species-on-earth/

    So there's that.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @J.Ross

    The ɒliens will hɒve ɒ lɒw officer to enforce their stɒndards of beɒuty on Eɒrth, cɒlled the Beɒuty Deputy.

  25. @El Dato
    @syonredux

    It's like her eyes do not really belong to her face.

    My mind is going ...

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon, @additionalMike

    Yeah. she’s got eyes like an anime character:

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @syonredux

    They appear to be too far apart, according to the 5 fifths rule:

    https://www.thedrawingsource.com/images/300xNxproportions-of-the-face-loomis.jpg.pagespeed.ic.e3y2wLTgpU.jpg

    , @S. Anonyia
    @syonredux

    It’s okay in photograph or on film but eyes that wide-spaced look pretty disconcerting in real life (knew a girl with a vaguely similar appearance).

    , @R.G. Camara
    @syonredux

    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she'd be quite good looking. Without it, she's merely somewhere between "interesting" and "cute".

    However, as screen actress, that probably helps her. Acting for film means a lot more is done with the eyes than, say, acting on stage. And since she's not a 10, but not ugly, she can play "interesting" roles and get away with playing both pretty girls and plain mousy women.

    Replies: @Ray Caruso, @Wilkey

    , @jb
    @syonredux

    I read somewhere that she was completely unaware that there was anything odd about her eyes until she was a teenager, then someone pointed it out to her and she was self-conscious about it for years.

    Also:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/a1f/596/e9fc112a4f6ddb011602313b686edddc68-11-alita-battle-angel.rhorizontal.w700.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    , @TelfoedJohn
    @syonredux

    For an unusual combination, such as the Chinese-African descent African Union Chairman Jean Ping, who would play them on screen?
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Jean_Ping_080202-F-1644L-081_0YWDF.jpg/392px-Jean_Ping_080202-F-1644L-081_0YWDF.jpg

    Jackie Cham or Chris Rock?

  26. Hispanics are NOT LATINS.

    LATINS are NOT Hispanic.

    Hispanics have Spaniard blood, they are a MIXED RACE, not a pure race of people.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Trinity

    Both designations are meaningless. What about white Brazilians?

    Why would, say, a non-English speaking white descended from Europeans & living in other areas have a special designation? Why would a white person from Uruguay be treated differently from a white person speaking Afrikaans (and no English) in South Africa?

    , @Anon
    @Trinity

    Not all so-called Hispanics have Spaniard blood. It varies a lot by country and region.

  27. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    She has bat shit crazy girlfriend written all over her:

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Mike Tre

    Lol and agreed -- hard pass on Anya. Not just the eyes but that no-man's land in between

    , @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @MEH 0910
    @Mike Tre

    I Accidentally Became A Meme: Overly Attached Girlfriend
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elhoa_MIyhw


    An entry in a Justin Bieber video contest led to one of the biggest memes on the internet and changed one girl's life forever.
     
  28. “Her mother… born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father… is an Argentine of Scottish heritage. ”

    By today’s standards when they do a remake of “The Boys From Brazil” everyone will need to be Latino like Gisele Bündchen.

  29. @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    They appear to be too far apart, according to the 5 fifths rule:

  30. • Replies: @Known Fact
    @MEH 0910

    I'm sure she's a much better actress, but she's got a ways to go to "channel" Veronica Lake

    https://www.hollywoodyesterday.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Veronica-Lake-This-Gun-for-Hire-2.jpg

    , @Johnny789
    @MEH 0910

    Sloped forehead, slack jawed, mouth breathing genetic freak!

  31. @jon

    Her mother ... born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father ... is an Argentine of Scottish heritage.
     
    Mom was a European with some Spanish background. Dad was a Scottish guy living in Latin America. Does being a fake Latinx on both sides make her fake status as a Latinx less fake? I lived in a foreign country for a good chunk of my adult life, can I abandon my Whiteness, too?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @AceDeuce, @Anonymous

    my old hood got overrun by mexicans. Uhm,does that male ME a white latino?

    • Replies: @jon
    @Father O'Hara

    That's a good point, when we finally reach the tipping point of being a majority Latinx country, do we all retroactively become Latinx? I think it's only fair - we've certainly been disadvantaged by this, we've earned some 'gibs' for sure.

  32. For every demotion there’s a promotion; Olivia Munn has been upgraded to “prominent Asian celebrity”.

    To raise awareness around this crime surge, Asian Americans are now using the hashtag #StopAsianHate to amplify news coverage as well as share their own experiences with discrimination. From prominent Asian celebrities like Olivia Munn and Henry Golding to fashion influencers like Phillip Lim and Kimora Lee Simmons, those with a platform are encouraging others to take a stand.”

  33. This “Latina” thing has got to stop at some point.

    Blacks, Whites, East Asians, South Asians, Amerindians, Pacific Islanders – these are labels rooted in physical biology and geography. “Latino” (formerly “Hispanic”) is based on a language forced upon a variety of conquered peoples by a long dead empire. The Spanish and the Italians (the OG Latins) don’t even count as Latino or Hispanic! A Latina can be as pale and delicate as Catherine Deneuve or as dark and simian as Leslie Jones. If a French-speaking actress from a former French North African colony won a Golden Globe, would we call her the First Francx winner? It’s dumb.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Charles St. Charles

    "If a French-speaking actress from a former French North African colony won a Golden Globe, would we call her the First Francx winner? It’s dumb."

    Dumb... and dumber? Are you assuming she'd "really" be African? Even so, wouldn't the smug French proudly welcome her as "French"? Like the Brits, didn't colonialism saddle them with millions of darkies who are "just as" French or British as the case may be? There were proud of how "enlightened" they were, unlike the crude American racists, until modern tech enabled those millions to fly "home" and demand their "rights."

    Francx would at least make the distinction.

  34. @Anonymous

    family moved to the Victoria area of London. Taylor-Joy was traumatised by the move and refused to speak English for two years
     


    Not even for, how you say, la familia?

    https://us.hola.com/en/imagenes/celebrities/2018102912905/alec-baldwin-hilaria-baldwin-hola-usa-exclusive/0-31-873/hola-baldwin-cover-t.jpg

     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Walsh2

    The Baldwins are in the news again:

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @MEH 0910

    If this country gets any more "brown" it will look like Iceland.

    , @notsaying
    @MEH 0910

    She just had a baby in September yet she has the second, most recent infant with her.
    Wouldn't a baby born to her be a premie still in the hospital?

    I have to know more before I decide she actually gave birth to the latest one.

    This woman has problems -- problems that simply having another baby won't solve. Will she give this one a Spanish name too?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    Very nice.

  35. @raga10
    I watched "Queen's Gambit" and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance... and I never thought of her as anything other than white.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Charles St. Charles, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Hapalong Cassidy

    First saw her in movie “Split” where her and Scottish actor James McAvoy were the lead actors, I thought the same thing.

  36. There is also another controversy about Anya Taylor-Joy appearance at The Golden Globes because, get this, SHE PARTED HER HAIR in the way Tik-Tok citizens do not approve of! (I think she looked great, btw).
    Seriously, some people should have their media devices confiscated and their fingers broken, just to be sure…

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
    @raga10


    Seriously, some people should have their media devices confiscated and their fingers broken, just to be sure…
     
    Just broken?
  37. @El Dato
    @syonredux

    It's like her eyes do not really belong to her face.

    My mind is going ...

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon, @additionalMike

    She’s left-eye dominant for a start. But I think if she was in Gondor she would self-identify as part Elf.

    • Agree: fish
  38. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    HALF of Americans now identify as Independents.
    This is a record-high in Gallup polling. And a huge jump since the election.
    This disaffiliation from the two major parties is very dangerous for democracy. It reveals deep, deep dissatisfaction. https://t.co/01p54BAiRA pic.twitter.com/6IgzRltAod

    — Lee Drutman (@leedrutman) March 1, 2021

    Being “Independent” is a threat to oligarchy, not democracy.

  39. @syonredux

    UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.
     
    Huh. Does this mean that she could be classified as a Person of Color, if she wanted to?


    https://gleamingstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Anya-Taylor-Joy-Hot-Images-945x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @El Dato, @syonredux, @Verymuchalive, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    I’d hit it.

    In fact, I think most normal straight guys would.

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso, TWS
    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Same but I would definitely pull out. I don't really want kids who look like E.T.

  40. So Dad, a Scot living in BA got an MBE right after the Falklands War. Followed by an OBE 16 years later. For services to trade.
    🤓

    • LOL: Hibernian
  41. She’s allowed in under the Newman doctrine.

  42. @El Dato
    @syonredux

    It's like her eyes do not really belong to her face.

    My mind is going ...

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon, @additionalMike

    It’s OK, Hal…sing us a song.

  43. All this ethnic bean-counting that has seized showbiz just cluelessly misses the whole point — it’s called acting because what matters is not you but the character you create and project to the audience.

    I never took the Globes seriously, it’s just supposedly a bunch of easily bribed foreign layabouts. But I did see in Parade Magazine that Mike Connors won the Globes’ very first Best TV Actor award back in 1970 for Mannix, so they got one right at least.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Known Fact

    Nobody wants to see acting anymore. No one wants to be told a story anymore. All people want from art and culture is a reflection of themselves. People don't want to learn anything or be challenged or have their pre-conceived notions unsettled. People want to be told whatever confirms what they've already been told.

    Replies: @notsaying

  44. @jon

    offshore powerboat racing
     

    private jet hire
     

    conservationists
     
    One of these things is not like the others. But unlike most rich people who live an opulent, polluting lifestyle, the Taylor-Joys were at least willing to tell the rest of us how we should live. If only more celebrities could be the same.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    If her parents can be “conservationists” then she can be a “white Latina”.

    And “I aaaaaaaaam a Grimwald warrior!”

    https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K_317_-_The_Saga_of_the_Viking_Women_and_Their_Voyage_to_the_Waters_of_the_Great_Sea_Serpent

  45. So during the Falkland war did her dad and the rest of the British community have to leave Argentina?

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
    @Ed

    The Argies of British descent were loyal to Argentina, or at least pretended to. Some fought in the war. Argentina was a military dictatorship with the habit of dropping leftists from helicopters into the ocean. Not exactly a free-speech zone.

  46. @J.Ross
    @syonredux

    Is this the power of The Hispanic Century?
    >be space alien
    >look like a space alien
    >sometimes get deliberately photographed in such a way as to emphasize the big visitor eyes
    >wear a shirt decorated with arcade invader UFOs just to ram home the point
    >attempt to explain to Earthlings about the advanced alien civilization and giving up nukes
    >Earthlings: "Right, so you're Latina?"

    Replies: @James O'Meara, @the one they call Desanex

    I was going to post something about “are Greys persons of color” and was trying to find a list of the various UFO species and found on that has this, which is new to me.

    “The Nordics would look just like humans and they would have long blonde hair that would be maintained by both male aliens as well as the female ones. These aliens are not identifiable even if they walk among a crowd. The only way to identify them is when they manifest some of their extraterrestrial activities. These aliens usually have angular faces with blue eyes. The females of the Nordic alien type have a high sex appeal.”

    http://proofofalien.com/top-10-different-types-of-alien-species-on-earth/

    So there’s that.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    @James O'Meara

    Maybe the past year's cultural revolution was planned not only to divide the 99% and enrich the oligarchy, but also to prepare us for alien disclosure. "Anti-racism" and CRT condition people to ignore common sense observations about humans of a (sometimes much) different appearance and behavior and to be afraid to voice any criticism of hegemonic rhetoric about it. If racism is the worst sin possible, then being repelled by stinking, scary Saurian Greys would be said to be equally bad. We would be propagandized further to welcome our new alien friends.

    However, those who believe that we are in end times might see the supposed aliens as actually being demons as part of the final "strong delusion" as spoken of in Second Thessalonians 2, with their 'special alien powers' like antigravity and calling up fire from the sky actually being something else:

    "The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth..."

    Perhaps anti-white ideology would be amplified at the behest of the Greys and other 'alien species', until a gloriously charismatic Nordic White would come and put the nettlesome Greys in their place, winning the gratitude of persecuted antiwoke/antialien whites, many who would join the rest of the world in following the new 'white/ alien' world leader- i.e. Antichrist.

  47. @Mike Tre
    @syonredux

    She has bat shit crazy girlfriend written all over her:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gwtk4nMaUM0/maxresdefault.jpg

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Alden, @MEH 0910

    Lol and agreed — hard pass on Anya. Not just the eyes but that no-man’s land in between

  48. @Charles St. Charles
    This “Latina” thing has got to stop at some point.

    Blacks, Whites, East Asians, South Asians, Amerindians, Pacific Islanders - these are labels rooted in physical biology and geography. “Latino” (formerly “Hispanic”) is based on a language forced upon a variety of conquered peoples by a long dead empire. The Spanish and the Italians (the OG Latins) don’t even count as Latino or Hispanic! A Latina can be as pale and delicate as Catherine Deneuve or as dark and simian as Leslie Jones. If a French-speaking actress from a former French North African colony won a Golden Globe, would we call her the First Francx winner? It’s dumb.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    “If a French-speaking actress from a former French North African colony won a Golden Globe, would we call her the First Francx winner? It’s dumb.”

    Dumb… and dumber? Are you assuming she’d “really” be African? Even so, wouldn’t the smug French proudly welcome her as “French”? Like the Brits, didn’t colonialism saddle them with millions of darkies who are “just as” French or British as the case may be? There were proud of how “enlightened” they were, unlike the crude American racists, until modern tech enabled those millions to fly “home” and demand their “rights.”

    Francx would at least make the distinction.

  49. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    The Baldwins are in the news again:

    https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1366539260757598213

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @notsaying, @El Dato

    If this country gets any more “brown” it will look like Iceland.

  50. @raga10
    I watched "Queen's Gambit" and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance... and I never thought of her as anything other than white.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Charles St. Charles, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Hapalong Cassidy

    “I watched “Queen’s Gambit” and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance”

    My wife and I enjoyed the show. What surprised us the most was we kept waiting for one of the white male authority, father, teacher, brother, friend, rival, lover characters to abuse or betray the female lead, but it never happened. Not very 2020.

    BTW: she’s neither White nor Latina, she’s definitely from off-planet…

  51. Between her and Ana de Armas (Joi in Blade Runner 2049, the main girl in Knives Out, and the next Bond girl) there’s a new trend in Hollywood to start casting white blonde Latinas in star-making leading lady roles that previously would’ve gone to an anglo white woman like Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon or Jennifer Lawrence.

    Perhaps this is a clever workaround to diversity requirements while still keeping intact the fantasy of the perfect blonde Hollywood woman that audiences around the world want to see so much, not to mention the pervy casting agents and executives.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @DextersLabRat

    It's interesting that the most striking feature of both her and Ana are unique eyes (in Ana's case, bags which should not be but which are attractive).

  52. Anya Taylor-Joy

    The most sumptuously White movie trailer in recent years? Could be! (no homo)

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    The most sumptuously White movie trailer in recent years?
     
    Don't worry, if they do the second season they will probably pull a Bridgerton and cast blacks in the roles of Soviet grandmasters.

    Replies: @International Jew

  53. @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    It’s okay in photograph or on film but eyes that wide-spaced look pretty disconcerting in real life (knew a girl with a vaguely similar appearance).

  54. An Argentine of Scottish heritage? I met one once. It was 1985, in Rio Gallegos, the small provincial capital 40 miles north of the Magellan Strait. He was a wool trader, maybe 60 years old, who grew up on a Patagonia sheep ranch. He didn’t speak English, but he spoke (in Spanish) with a Scottish accent. Perhaps most interesting is that he had travelled to South Africa and New Zealand, but to no countries further north than that. A world traveler of the austral latitudes.

  55. Anya Taylor-Joy was quite good in M. Night Shamylan’s Split, playing the heroine-outcast high school girl who cuts herself because she was sexually abused by her uncle. Her anime-like big dark liquid eyes and frozen fear face removed a lot of the sexuality from her performance, which was a good thing, as a movie about three high school girls trapped by a psychopath could have had a lot of sexualizing moments.

    And her performance in The Witch was excellent as well, at least from the clips I’ve watched. I haven’t seen her in Emma, but any big-budget version of Jane Austen novels tends to be really well done — I have yet to even hear of one being bad.

    Her eyes are quite magnetic, but her weak chin prevents her from being a true beauty.

    As a side note, I was impressed with M. Night’s work in both Split and Glass at de-sexualizing and realistically portraying trapped high school girls. Those situations in horror movies usually have tarted-up actresses, mostly over 18, wearing revealing clothing and having sexual situations and snarky lines as a wink to the audience. M. Night, meanwhile, made the high school girls in both films look, well, like actual high school girls trapped in such predicaments: they look young and babyish, nothing about their outfits is sexual, and they are scared and earnest, not sexy and snarky.

    The scene in Glass where Bruce Willis rescues a whole squad of trapped high school cheerleaders could’ve been a horror movie T&A cliche and it definitely wasn’t. I wonder if M. Night was making a statement about truth and reality and the Hollywood meat market by not doing the obvious with those scenes.

    • Agree: notsaying
  56. Here in the land of oz we have similar situations where white-blacks demand to be recognised as the original owners of the country. They might have a half-cast grandmother way back if they’re lucky and so in their mind, they are owed something.
    I know of one white-black who actually has ice blue eyes, and that has to mean that both sides of her family have forebears from the upper Black Sea region. Yet these are the people who always have their outstretched arms ready to grab whatever the government sends their way.
    It’s all a mockery though when you consider that we were all once dark skinned until a genetic mutation allowed some of us to be of lighter skin tone. It’s strange to see a negro albino though, and I think they tend to suffer a lot of prejudice from their own race. Having limbs chopped off to make witchcraft potions is the norm.

  57. @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she’d be quite good looking. Without it, she’s merely somewhere between “interesting” and “cute”.

    However, as screen actress, that probably helps her. Acting for film means a lot more is done with the eyes than, say, acting on stage. And since she’s not a 10, but not ugly, she can play “interesting” roles and get away with playing both pretty girls and plain mousy women.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
    @R.G. Camara

    Her seeming fragility—including both the big, wide-spaced eyes and the delicate chin—makes her look adorable. And I'm sure I'm not the only guy who thinks so.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Wilkey
    @R.G. Camara


    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she’d be quite good looking. Without it, she’s merely somewhere between “interesting” and “cute”.
     
    She can be quite confident that she'd be the most beautiful woman in almost any room she walked into.

    Those of us who are happily married would (I hope) turn her down for reasons of fidelity, but we would never turn her down because of her looks.

    The only movie I've ever seen her in was "The Witch." She had blonde hair in that one - a much better color for her - and she was stunning.

  58. @Ed
    So during the Falkland war did her dad and the rest of the British community have to leave Argentina?

    Replies: @Ray Caruso

    The Argies of British descent were loyal to Argentina, or at least pretended to. Some fought in the war. Argentina was a military dictatorship with the habit of dropping leftists from helicopters into the ocean. Not exactly a free-speech zone.

  59. @Known Fact
    All this ethnic bean-counting that has seized showbiz just cluelessly misses the whole point -- it's called acting because what matters is not you but the character you create and project to the audience.

    I never took the Globes seriously, it's just supposedly a bunch of easily bribed foreign layabouts. But I did see in Parade Magazine that Mike Connors won the Globes' very first Best TV Actor award back in 1970 for Mannix, so they got one right at least.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Nobody wants to see acting anymore. No one wants to be told a story anymore. All people want from art and culture is a reflection of themselves. People don’t want to learn anything or be challenged or have their pre-conceived notions unsettled. People want to be told whatever confirms what they’ve already been told.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @njguy73

    That may be true of some but not of my me.

    I think there are many others like me. There are people on both sides who try to tell their supporters that the other side is evil and that the only good people think like them but thank God, many Americans refuse to believe that.

  60. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/1366236179998388226

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Johnny789

    I’m sure she’s a much better actress, but she’s got a ways to go to “channel” Veronica Lake

  61. @Luzzatto
    @syonredux

    I have heard The Democrat Run Mainstream refer to Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti as a "Person Of Color".

    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E's old Compton neighborhood!

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E’s old Compton neighborhood!

    Except that Compton was 65% Latino way back in 2010!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton,_California#Demographics

    Pretty sure iSteve has touched on how that shift happened…MSM sure won’t…

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Guero in the Mexican community in Compton and not as a Brown Aztec Warrior. Also Compton still has Black neighborhoods!

  62. UPDATED: This story has been updated. A previous version identified Anya Taylor-Joy as a person of color. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.

    Who cares? Get to the real point– does she get naked in this, or not?

    • Agree: Charles St. Charles
  63. @Louis Renault

    born and raised in Zambia
     
    And here I thought Zambia was in Africa.

    Replies: @unit472, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    ” Zambia” was once better known as Northern Rhodesia. A fact that probably explains Taylor Joy’s mother being born and raised there.

  64. Another “Latina” actress like this is Alexis Bledel, who starred in the T.V show, “Gillmore Girls”. Her father is from Argentina.

    She was 100% believable as an upper crust WASP girl from New England in that show. As soon as I saw her interact with her WASP grandparents in the show, the first thought that crossed my mind was:

    “Yeah, she could be the biological grand-daughter of these people.”

    Just look at these huge ice-blue eyes:

    • Agree: notsaying, AceDeuce
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Rockford Tyson

    She looks awful now. She was so cute back in the day.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @James J O'Meara

  65. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Anya Taylor-Joy
     
    The most sumptuously White movie trailer in recent years? Could be! (no homo)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsOwj0PR5Sk

    Replies: @raga10

    The most sumptuously White movie trailer in recent years?

    Don’t worry, if they do the second season they will probably pull a Bridgerton and cast blacks in the roles of Soviet grandmasters.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @raga10

    Apparently, as of 2016 Subsaharan Africa had produced just one chess grandmaster.
    https://punchng.com/african-chess-grandmasters-achieving-excellence-in-an-underrepresented-game/

    Russia currently has about 250 grandmasters.

  66. @raga10
    There is also another controversy about Anya Taylor-Joy appearance at The Golden Globes because, get this, SHE PARTED HER HAIR in the way Tik-Tok citizens do not approve of! (I think she looked great, btw).
    Seriously, some people should have their media devices confiscated and their fingers broken, just to be sure...

    Replies: @Charles St. Charles

    Seriously, some people should have their media devices confiscated and their fingers broken, just to be sure…

    Just broken?

  67. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    The dude’s literally written a book called “Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy.”

    Whatever his other sins…

  68. Hmm, half British, half Argentine… I wonder if there’s a ban on discussing the Falklands/Malvinas in her family.

    Glad her career is taking off. Talented and beautiful.

    • Replies: @German
    @Ian Smith

    They discuss the Hand of God

  69. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    The Woke Daily Dot wants people to know that Taylor-Joy acknowledges her Whiteness:


    Many of Taylor-Joy’s fans pointed to a 2018 Vulture profile of the actress where she discussed her Latina identity and the “weird mash-up” of growing up in Argentina before immigrating to the U.K. But Taylor-Joy never described herself as a woman of color; she acknowledged her white privilege that although she is Latina, she doesn’t want to take roles away from non-white Latinx people.
     

    “I’m aware of the fact I don’t look like a typical Latin person, and that’s not fair,” Taylor-Joy told Vulture. “I don’t want to be someone that you can just sub in for that role when I’m really white and blonde.”
     
    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/golden-globes-anya-taylor-joy-latina-woc-label/

    Replies: @notsaying

    She seems to be trying to be as honest as she can about her background. Granted if she tried to claim she was Hispanic there would be an uproar.

    It’s interesting that other white people tried to give her the mantle of being typically Hispanic that she herself did not claim. They are so eager to have minorities win awards that they will label Hispanics of mostly European descent who grew up mostly outside of the Americas as Hispanic.

  70. @njguy73
    @Known Fact

    Nobody wants to see acting anymore. No one wants to be told a story anymore. All people want from art and culture is a reflection of themselves. People don't want to learn anything or be challenged or have their pre-conceived notions unsettled. People want to be told whatever confirms what they've already been told.

    Replies: @notsaying

    That may be true of some but not of my me.

    I think there are many others like me. There are people on both sides who try to tell their supporters that the other side is evil and that the only good people think like them but thank God, many Americans refuse to believe that.

  71. @DextersLabRat
    Between her and Ana de Armas (Joi in Blade Runner 2049, the main girl in Knives Out, and the next Bond girl) there's a new trend in Hollywood to start casting white blonde Latinas in star-making leading lady roles that previously would've gone to an anglo white woman like Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon or Jennifer Lawrence.

    Perhaps this is a clever workaround to diversity requirements while still keeping intact the fantasy of the perfect blonde Hollywood woman that audiences around the world want to see so much, not to mention the pervy casting agents and executives.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    It’s interesting that the most striking feature of both her and Ana are unique eyes (in Ana’s case, bags which should not be but which are attractive).

  72. @R.G. Camara
    @syonredux

    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she'd be quite good looking. Without it, she's merely somewhere between "interesting" and "cute".

    However, as screen actress, that probably helps her. Acting for film means a lot more is done with the eyes than, say, acting on stage. And since she's not a 10, but not ugly, she can play "interesting" roles and get away with playing both pretty girls and plain mousy women.

    Replies: @Ray Caruso, @Wilkey

    Her seeming fragility—including both the big, wide-spaced eyes and the delicate chin—makes her look adorable. And I’m sure I’m not the only guy who thinks so.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ray Caruso

    Surely the Perry Farrell lyric "we'll make great pets" was penned for visitors such as her.

  73. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    The Baldwins are in the news again:

    https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1366539260757598213

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @notsaying, @El Dato

    She just had a baby in September yet she has the second, most recent infant with her.
    Wouldn’t a baby born to her be a premie still in the hospital?

    I have to know more before I decide she actually gave birth to the latest one.

    This woman has problems — problems that simply having another baby won’t solve. Will she give this one a Spanish name too?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @notsaying

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1366772004888735747

    https://twitter.com/PageSix/status/1366838414826471432

  74. The Queen’s Gambit was excellent. Well worth watching.

  75. jb says:
    @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    I read somewhere that she was completely unaware that there was anything odd about her eyes until she was a teenager, then someone pointed it out to her and she was self-conscious about it for years.

    Also:

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @jb

    Did you know there is a F-to-M trans version of Gally? (some kind of superhero antagonist/clone)?

    https://i.postimg.cc/mg1jb1Dg/Sechs-is-pumped.png

    , @MEH 0910
    @jb

    https://www.vulture.com/2018/03/anya-taylor-joy-profile.html


    One of the first Facebook photos Anya Taylor-Joy was tagged in was a picture of a fish. “I must have been about 10 or 11,” she says. “I was so confused. I went to my parents like, ‘Why? I don’t understand.’ My sister sort of piped up, ‘It’s because your eyes are really far apart. You look like a fish.’ It was the most horrifying feeling – I’m now suddenly aware of something that I can’t ever be unaware of.”
     

    Some stars spend years searching for the thing that will become their trademark. Taylor-Joy got hers from genetics: a pair of large, expressive eyes that have proven incredibly useful for the films in which the 21-year-old actress has made her name. While the first few months of the year are generally considered a cinematic wasteland, they’ve been good for Taylor-Joy. Each winter, she’s starred in a new piece of ambitious genre fare. Whether she’s a “synthetic human” (Morgan), a witchcraft-curious Puritan teen (The Witch), or, most recently, an icy rich girl in Connecticut (the new Thoroughbreds), the camera tends to behold her features with a kind of alien wonder. Directors love isolating her in close-ups, especially in M. Night Shyamalan’s Split, where she spent the entire film gazing in mute horror at James McAvoy’s multitude of accents.
     

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  76. Anya’s no dog, that’s for sure, but those wide-set eyes did remind me of Wallace, currently hoping for adoption at Putnam Humane

  77. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    Well, the secret is that “Independents” aren’t really independent. When push comes to shove almost all of them know which party they will vote for. But for good reason, they don’t want to be tied as a “member” to every dumb thing “their” party does.

    It’s interesting that 5% of voters immediately jumped from Democrat to Independent the week Biden actually took office. I guess that’s a good measure of who was only an anti-Trump Democrat as opposed to a pro-Biden Democrat.

  78. @Father O'Hara
    @jon

    my old hood got overrun by mexicans. Uhm,does that male ME a white latino?

    Replies: @jon

    That’s a good point, when we finally reach the tipping point of being a majority Latinx country, do we all retroactively become Latinx? I think it’s only fair – we’ve certainly been disadvantaged by this, we’ve earned some ‘gibs’ for sure.

  79. Terrible raspy voice. Worse than vocal fry.

  80. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_Americans

    strange that wikipeida lists Martin Sheen as an example of a mixed-raced American because his father was Spanish. They even list Monica Lewinsky as mixed race because her Jewish Father was born in to El Salvador.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Travis

    Rather surprised that they don't toss in Johnny Cash and his daughter, Rosanne:


    A DNA test of Johnny’s daughter Rosanne whose results were displayed on the show Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. (2021) stated that Rosanne’s genetic ancestry is:

    *92.3% European
    *3.8% Western Asian
    *3.3% Sub-Saharan African
    *0.6% Unassigned

    During their marriage, Johnny and his wife, Rosanne’s mother Vivian, were often the subject of racist attacks by people who believed that Vivian was a black woman. Genealogical researchers for the show discovered that Vivian was of approximately 1/32 African descent, unbeknownst to the family, with DNA research indicating that Johnny likely had a similar percentage of African ancestry.
     
    https://ethnicelebs.com/johnny-cash

    Replies: @Lloyd1927

    , @AndrewR
    @Travis

    It's not strange when you realize that Wikipedia editors skew quite dim.

  81. I don’t watch award shows.

    Hollywood idiots utter “GG Winner” with a reverence usually reserved for left-wing heroes.

    It seems to me that within the movie business, an AA-nomination is held in higher esteem than a GG win. In ads for upcoming pictures, the narrator will give top-billing to Academy recognees.

  82. She never claimed it at all, even implicitly, but in my opinion she does have non-trivial Negroid roots in her family tree. She has rather projecting heel bones (sign of sub Saharan African ancestry), but I don’t suppose many noticed that. Her face is extremely unusual for a European, and added to the fact her mother was brought up in an African country, my view is the probability is a black African went into the mix at the great grandparent level. Intriguingly good looking as she is, it makes for a more interesting image for her to be an exotically unique mix of aristocratic globe trotting European nationalities than slightly black African.

    In a nutshell, yes she is sort of black I think; there is zero incentive for her to have ever claimed that because her looks have helped rather than hindered her. A more obviously black actress at her level of commercial appeal would have had to overcome her looks with acting ability more than Ms Taylor Joy has had to, which is not to say she is not an accomplished Thespian. She is probably wary of being accused of falsely claiming the extra kudos that goes with succeeding while being black. Discernable black looks are a handicap for a lead female actress in the sort of roles she has succeeded in, but unacknowledged, her African DNA has added that ineffable something to the upper class good looks.

  83. For blacks we have the one-drop rule. Hispanics come under a one-grain rule; if you were born in Latin America, then no matter your genetics, a little bit of tragic dirt adheres to you, bequeathing a measure of that coveted non-whiteness.

    • Replies: @Lloyd1927
    @International Jew

    If there were truly a "one drop rule," nearly ALL Latinos and Arabs in this country would be "black."

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

  84. @raga10
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    The most sumptuously White movie trailer in recent years?
     
    Don't worry, if they do the second season they will probably pull a Bridgerton and cast blacks in the roles of Soviet grandmasters.

    Replies: @International Jew

    Apparently, as of 2016 Subsaharan Africa had produced just one chess grandmaster.
    https://punchng.com/african-chess-grandmasters-achieving-excellence-in-an-underrepresented-game/

    Russia currently has about 250 grandmasters.

  85. @jon

    Her mother ... born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father ... is an Argentine of Scottish heritage.
     
    Mom was a European with some Spanish background. Dad was a Scottish guy living in Latin America. Does being a fake Latinx on both sides make her fake status as a Latinx less fake? I lived in a foreign country for a good chunk of my adult life, can I abandon my Whiteness, too?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @AceDeuce, @Anonymous

    Hey, she’s the same ethnic mix as Che Guevara, except his dad had Irish blood, not Scottish. Che was 100% White European, just like the current “Latino” Pope, who’s 100% Italian.

  86. As a general rule of thumb Argentinians are a lot better looking than Mexicans.

    The government isn’t any better though. But if you are just looking for a wife sure, go there.

  87. Actress Anya Taylor-Joy – I have not seen her onscreen but she looks intelligent, aware and cute. Not necessarily in this order.

  88. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/1366236179998388226

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Johnny789

    Sloped forehead, slack jawed, mouth breathing genetic freak!

  89. @Abe
    OT-

    Yo, bitches, the ebooks for Jonathan Franzen’s THE CORRECTIONS and Daniel Kahneman’s THINKING FAST & SLOW (subject of Steve’s TAKI’s essay from last week) are both on sale for $4.99 today at Amazon, Google, etc. Never saw the former below $10 so I’m super jazzed!

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Lockean Proviso, @duncsbaby

    The Corrections is great. You all should treat yourselves to a copy and read it.

  90. Some other actors in the British White Latina category:

    Michelle Gomez

    Place of Birth: Glasgow, Scotland

    Date of Birth: November 23, 1966

    Ethnicity:
    *Portuguese-Montserratian (father)
    *Scottish (mother)

    https://ethnicelebs.com/michelle-gomez

    Sonya Walger

    Place of Birth: Hampstead, London, England, U.K.

    Date of Birth: 6 June, 1974

    Ethnicity:
    *father – Argentinian [Italian, Spanish, Basque, German, possibly other]
    *mother – English

    Sonya Walger is a British actress. Her father is Argentinian and her mother is English. Sonya is also a U.S. citizen.

    https://ethnicelebs.com/sonya-walger

  91. @Travis
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_Americans

    strange that wikipeida lists Martin Sheen as an example of a mixed-raced American because his father was Spanish. They even list Monica Lewinsky as mixed race because her Jewish Father was born in to El Salvador.

    Replies: @syonredux, @AndrewR

    Rather surprised that they don’t toss in Johnny Cash and his daughter, Rosanne:

    A DNA test of Johnny’s daughter Rosanne whose results were displayed on the show Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. (2021) stated that Rosanne’s genetic ancestry is:

    *92.3% European
    *3.8% Western Asian
    *3.3% Sub-Saharan African
    *0.6% Unassigned

    During their marriage, Johnny and his wife, Rosanne’s mother Vivian, were often the subject of racist attacks by people who believed that Vivian was a black woman. Genealogical researchers for the show discovered that Vivian was of approximately 1/32 African descent, unbeknownst to the family, with DNA research indicating that Johnny likely had a similar percentage of African ancestry.

    https://ethnicelebs.com/johnny-cash

    • Replies: @Lloyd1927
    @syonredux

    Her Sicilian father's genes had to give Vivian Liberto Cash her "mulatto" looks. The tiny amount of "black" was not nearly enough. I have met a lot of mulatto-looking whites who were Sicilians, Latinos, Arabs, Ashkenazi Jews, Greeks, Turks, etc.

  92. @raga10
    I watched "Queen's Gambit" and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance... and I never thought of her as anything other than white.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Charles St. Charles, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Isn’t she just Spanish though?

    Anglo-Spanish at worst.

    Ohh and totally agree, first saw her in Peaky Blinders. Memorable performance. I think it is her face: not pretty, cute or even beautiful but very, very, very interesting to look at.

  93. She has said she identifies as a white Latina.

    That appears to be literally true.

    On the other hand, I think Ms. Taylor-Joy is playing some little head games with the media. Maybe she has a nice sense of humor.

  94. So, we’re not going with the one-drop rule?

  95. This all is so idiotic it isn’t funny anymore.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Bardon Kaldian

    No....it’s still funny.

  96. In the 1990s there was a red haired Argentinian football player of Scottish descent called Carlos Mac Allister. “El Colorado”

    http://www.pesmitidelcalcio.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2990

    His red headed son Alexis is now playing in England:

    https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/mens-team/players/63633/alexis-mac-allister?selectcompetition=-1

  97. @Trinity
    Hispanics are NOT LATINS.

    LATINS are NOT Hispanic.

    Hispanics have Spaniard blood, they are a MIXED RACE, not a pure race of people.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Anon

    Both designations are meaningless. What about white Brazilians?

    Why would, say, a non-English speaking white descended from Europeans & living in other areas have a special designation? Why would a white person from Uruguay be treated differently from a white person speaking Afrikaans (and no English) in South Africa?

  98. Father is MI6 for sure.

  99. @James O'Meara
    @J.Ross

    I was going to post something about "are Greys persons of color" and was trying to find a list of the various UFO species and found on that has this, which is new to me.

    "The Nordics would look just like humans and they would have long blonde hair that would be maintained by both male aliens as well as the female ones. These aliens are not identifiable even if they walk among a crowd. The only way to identify them is when they manifest some of their extraterrestrial activities. These aliens usually have angular faces with blue eyes. The females of the Nordic alien type have a high sex appeal."

    http://proofofalien.com/top-10-different-types-of-alien-species-on-earth/

    So there's that.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Maybe the past year’s cultural revolution was planned not only to divide the 99% and enrich the oligarchy, but also to prepare us for alien disclosure. “Anti-racism” and CRT condition people to ignore common sense observations about humans of a (sometimes much) different appearance and behavior and to be afraid to voice any criticism of hegemonic rhetoric about it. If racism is the worst sin possible, then being repelled by stinking, scary Saurian Greys would be said to be equally bad. We would be propagandized further to welcome our new alien friends.

    However, those who believe that we are in end times might see the supposed aliens as actually being demons as part of the final “strong delusion” as spoken of in Second Thessalonians 2, with their ‘special alien powers’ like antigravity and calling up fire from the sky actually being something else:

    “The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth…”

    Perhaps anti-white ideology would be amplified at the behest of the Greys and other ‘alien species’, until a gloriously charismatic Nordic White would come and put the nettlesome Greys in their place, winning the gratitude of persecuted antiwoke/antialien whites, many who would join the rest of the world in following the new ‘white/ alien’ world leader- i.e. Antichrist.

  100. Nothing in her background explains why she was born in the United States. It must of been planned by her parents for the American citizenship benefit. I long for the day when American citizens can exercise some real discretion over who we allow to be a citizen.

    • Agree: Rob
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Rohirrimborn

    I could be worse. Her mother could have been Huwhite Jewish. Then she would have four passports.

    , @Monsieur Sandwich
    @Rohirrimborn

    Wealthy Latin Americans have been doing this forever.

  101. @Bardon Kaldian
    This all is so idiotic it isn't funny anymore.

    Replies: @fish

    No….it’s still funny.

  102. @nebulafox
    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366400818300215298

    So, it's official: "democracy" is preserving the duopoly.

    Wonderful. Glad we made that clear.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @interesting, @AnotherDad, @Charles St. Charles, @SFG, @Hypnotoad666, @Guest007

    It does not matter how the voter identifies. It matters how they vote. About 43% of Americans are automatic Republican voter even if they call themselves independent. About 47% of voters are automatic Democratic Party voters. Most elections are deficied my the number of automatic voters in a state or district. The few competitive elecitons are decided more by base turnout than swing voters.

    What no one wants to discuss is how few swing voters there are anymore and how few elections are competitive..

  103. GG TV audience drops by 60%.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/mar/02/golden-globes-suffers-catastrophic-drop-in-tv-ratings-nielsen-coronavirus

    PS – Patagonia has a Welsh speaking community.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonian_Welsh

    “During the 1982 repatriation of Argentine troops from the Falklands war, British Merchant Navy seamen and Welsh Guardsmen met a Welsh-speaking Argentine soldier”

    I’m pretty sure Argentina had some soldiers called Taylor, too.

  104. It’s a good thing she gets intersectional Pokemon points, because with her underprivileged background, she obviously needs a hand up.

  105. Hilaria Baldwin would know.

  106. @raga10
    I watched "Queen's Gambit" and enjoyed it, mainly thanks to her presence and performance... and I never thought of her as anything other than white.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Charles St. Charles, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Hapalong Cassidy

    I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Way too slow. Maybe you have to like chess to appreciate it.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Way too slow. Maybe you have to like chess to appreciate it.
     
    I think it's enough to appreciate women :)
    First episode was the least interesting for me, but I got through it and things got better. And seriously, I don't think you have to like chess because I barely know how the pieces are supposed to move. I suppose if you do know something about the game it would add to your experience (they went to great lengths to make games they play real, these are never just pieces they put on the board at random) but I would say their greatest success was how they made a show about chess accessible to non-chess players.
  107. @Rohirrimborn
    Nothing in her background explains why she was born in the United States. It must of been planned by her parents for the American citizenship benefit. I long for the day when American citizens can exercise some real discretion over who we allow to be a citizen.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Monsieur Sandwich

    I could be worse. Her mother could have been Huwhite Jewish. Then she would have four passports.

  108. @Ray Caruso
    @R.G. Camara

    Her seeming fragility—including both the big, wide-spaced eyes and the delicate chin—makes her look adorable. And I'm sure I'm not the only guy who thinks so.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Surely the Perry Farrell lyric “we’ll make great pets” was penned for visitors such as her.

  109. The Left is obsessed by race, just like southern white racists after the Civil War.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Dan Smith

    And only The Left can discuss race without repercussions (or even use certain words) because they are the True Disciples of Antiracism.

    The religious order of the complete & unsufferable Smokey Bears.

    , @Ian Smith
    @Dan Smith

    Well, they’re both Democrats, herp derp!

  110. @Anonymous

    family moved to the Victoria area of London. Taylor-Joy was traumatised by the move and refused to speak English for two years
     


    Not even for, how you say, la familia?

    https://us.hola.com/en/imagenes/celebrities/2018102912905/alec-baldwin-hilaria-baldwin-hola-usa-exclusive/0-31-873/hola-baldwin-cover-t.jpg

     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Walsh2

    She’s the best actor in the family. Wonder how Billy felt when he got bumped from 3rd to 4th place?

    • LOL: J.Ross
  111. @Abe
    OT-

    Yo, bitches, the ebooks for Jonathan Franzen’s THE CORRECTIONS and Daniel Kahneman’s THINKING FAST & SLOW (subject of Steve’s TAKI’s essay from last week) are both on sale for $4.99 today at Amazon, Google, etc. Never saw the former below $10 so I’m super jazzed!

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Lockean Proviso, @duncsbaby

    Paperback hard copies are available on ebay with free shipping for less than $4. eBay is a good source for older titles and is often cheaper than amazon’s used prices.

    Franzen is a good read. Even though he’s a liberal, in Freedom he had several of his liberal characters be naive and foolish and conservative ones next door pwn them. It was one of the first novels to cover gentrification, yuppie liberals, and consequences of their lifestyles, as well as importance of family ties.

  112. @jb
    @syonredux

    I read somewhere that she was completely unaware that there was anything odd about her eyes until she was a teenager, then someone pointed it out to her and she was self-conscious about it for years.

    Also:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/a1f/596/e9fc112a4f6ddb011602313b686edddc68-11-alita-battle-angel.rhorizontal.w700.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    Did you know there is a F-to-M trans version of Gally? (some kind of superhero antagonist/clone)?

  113. @Dan Smith
    The Left is obsessed by race, just like southern white racists after the Civil War.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ian Smith

    And only The Left can discuss race without repercussions (or even use certain words) because they are the True Disciples of Antiracism.

    The religious order of the complete & unsufferable Smokey Bears.

  114. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    The Baldwins are in the news again:

    https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1366539260757598213

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @notsaying, @El Dato

    Very nice.

  115. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @syonredux

    I’d hit it.

    In fact, I think most normal straight guys would.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Same but I would definitely pull out. I don’t really want kids who look like E.T.

  116. @Rockford Tyson
    Another "Latina" actress like this is Alexis Bledel, who starred in the T.V show, "Gillmore Girls". Her father is from Argentina.

    She was 100% believable as an upper crust WASP girl from New England in that show. As soon as I saw her interact with her WASP grandparents in the show, the first thought that crossed my mind was:

    "Yeah, she could be the biological grand-daughter of these people."

    Just look at these huge ice-blue eyes: http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/181941/181941_v9_bb.jpg

    Replies: @AndrewR

    She looks awful now. She was so cute back in the day.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @AndrewR

    Ageing, my friend. It gets to all of us. That show is from well more than a decade ago. Ageing is misterious because some people show signs of physical decay as soon as their early to mid twenties, with wrinkles, chicken feet, receding hairlines, etc, while others still look like teenagers in their forties and in extreme cases up to their early to mid fifties. For instance, I watched a film where Tom Cruise was 54 and he would still be believable as a college senior. Sure, botox helps, but you don't get to look 30 years younger just with cosmetics.

    Also, Alexis Bledel actually looks pretty good for a 40 year-old woman. Compare her to the average 40 year-old female and you'll see that.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @AndrewR

    I couldn't find any "awful" photos, although she does look a bit older.

    Likely because of the electroshock treatment administered to her on Mad Men.

    Oddly, she then married Pete Campbell, so that also must have put on some wear and tear.

    https://www.startribune.com/mad-men-star-vincent-kartheiser-marries-alexis-bledel/270226061/

    Replies: @AndrewR

  117. Well she objected to being called a …

  118. @Travis
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_Americans

    strange that wikipeida lists Martin Sheen as an example of a mixed-raced American because his father was Spanish. They even list Monica Lewinsky as mixed race because her Jewish Father was born in to El Salvador.

    Replies: @syonredux, @AndrewR

    It’s not strange when you realize that Wikipedia editors skew quite dim.

  119. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @jon

    Her mother ... born and raised in Zambia and is of English and Spanish descent. Her father ... is an Argentine of Scottish heritage.
     
    Mom was a European with some Spanish background. Dad was a Scottish guy living in Latin America. Does being a fake Latinx on both sides make her fake status as a Latinx less fake? I lived in a foreign country for a good chunk of my adult life, can I abandon my Whiteness, too?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @AceDeuce, @Anonymous

    Magically spaniards have lept the intersectional totem pole. Rafa Nadal and King Juan Carlos are now poc !

    Racial preferences in education and employment over white children descended from the men and women who created the English speaking populations of north America. (Despite enormous military attacks from spaniards and meztizo indians who viscerally opposed their presence for centuries.)

    Now desperate to escape the failed corrupt societies they created in their own lands and get that racial graft. Make up a story and Bidens kabal will lay out the carpet for you.

    # mass immigration

  120. LOL! Its like she got drafted in Chapelle’s “Racial Draft” and she opted for another year in college.

  121. Am I confused here. Did she voluntarily say she identified as white instead of a person of color? That shows a remarkable amount of Courage. I’m impressed assuming I’m not confused

    • Replies: @Monsieur Sandwich
    @Whitney

    No, it shows she’s very intelligent and knows that for such an obviously white woman like herself with a posh British accent, claiming to be Latina would attract criticism. Instead, now she remains uncontroversial while still credibly being able to point out that technically she’s Latina in case the need arises (for example, if she ends up winning an award against a black woman).

  122. @AndrewR
    @Rockford Tyson

    She looks awful now. She was so cute back in the day.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @James J O'Meara

    Ageing, my friend. It gets to all of us. That show is from well more than a decade ago. Ageing is misterious because some people show signs of physical decay as soon as their early to mid twenties, with wrinkles, chicken feet, receding hairlines, etc, while others still look like teenagers in their forties and in extreme cases up to their early to mid fifties. For instance, I watched a film where Tom Cruise was 54 and he would still be believable as a college senior. Sure, botox helps, but you don’t get to look 30 years younger just with cosmetics.

    Also, Alexis Bledel actually looks pretty good for a 40 year-old woman. Compare her to the average 40 year-old female and you’ll see that.

  123. ATJ is a real talent. Check out Thoroughbreds.

  124. @R.G. Camara
    @syonredux

    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she'd be quite good looking. Without it, she's merely somewhere between "interesting" and "cute".

    However, as screen actress, that probably helps her. Acting for film means a lot more is done with the eyes than, say, acting on stage. And since she's not a 10, but not ugly, she can play "interesting" roles and get away with playing both pretty girls and plain mousy women.

    Replies: @Ray Caruso, @Wilkey

    Her small, weak chin accentuates her eyes further. Had she a more robust jaw line she’d be quite good looking. Without it, she’s merely somewhere between “interesting” and “cute”.

    She can be quite confident that she’d be the most beautiful woman in almost any room she walked into.

    Those of us who are happily married would (I hope) turn her down for reasons of fidelity, but we would never turn her down because of her looks.

    The only movie I’ve ever seen her in was “The Witch.” She had blonde hair in that one – a much better color for her – and she was stunning.

  125. @Rohirrimborn
    Nothing in her background explains why she was born in the United States. It must of been planned by her parents for the American citizenship benefit. I long for the day when American citizens can exercise some real discretion over who we allow to be a citizen.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Monsieur Sandwich

    Wealthy Latin Americans have been doing this forever.

  126. @Mike Tre
    @syonredux

    She has bat shit crazy girlfriend written all over her:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gwtk4nMaUM0/maxresdefault.jpg

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Alden, @MEH 0910

    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Alden


    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.
     
    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/L_0swOx-e4pcLK_nIc2Mmx_nUfA=/1200x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/XMK6ZHPJKZGHTIDKLBFPOMLGSA.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  127. @J.Ross
    @syonredux

    Is this the power of The Hispanic Century?
    >be space alien
    >look like a space alien
    >sometimes get deliberately photographed in such a way as to emphasize the big visitor eyes
    >wear a shirt decorated with arcade invader UFOs just to ram home the point
    >attempt to explain to Earthlings about the advanced alien civilization and giving up nukes
    >Earthlings: "Right, so you're Latina?"

    Replies: @James O'Meara, @the one they call Desanex

    The ɒliens will hɒve ɒ lɒw officer to enforce their stɒndards of beɒuty on Eɒrth, cɒlled the Beɒuty Deputy.

  128. Like most Netflix affirmative action trash the movie was a joke

  129. @Whitney
    Am I confused here. Did she voluntarily say she identified as white instead of a person of color? That shows a remarkable amount of Courage. I'm impressed assuming I'm not confused

    Replies: @Monsieur Sandwich

    No, it shows she’s very intelligent and knows that for such an obviously white woman like herself with a posh British accent, claiming to be Latina would attract criticism. Instead, now she remains uncontroversial while still credibly being able to point out that technically she’s Latina in case the need arises (for example, if she ends up winning an award against a black woman).

  130. Actors are almost all from rich families, often Intelligence Community related.

    It’s kind of like the church used to be for the dumbest sons of the rich.

    They get to steal our money and pretend they “made” it fair and square, and then their idiot inbred children get to “entertain” us.

    Sounds fair.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @obwandiyag

    The linkages to Intell are indeed mind boggling. Or mind opening.

    , @Stebbing Heuer
    @obwandiyag

    Look at her father's career. Argentina? He is British overseas intelligence for sure.

  131. Why are her parents conservationists. WHAT are THEY ALLEGED TO HAVE DONE TOTHEM. I hope she rejects this dreadful habit.

  132. @syonredux
    @El Dato

    Yeah. she's got eyes like an anime character:

    https://img-cdn.herbeauty.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/reasons-to-watch-the-queens-gambit-07.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @S. Anonyia, @R.G. Camara, @jb, @TelfoedJohn

    For an unusual combination, such as the Chinese-African descent African Union Chairman Jean Ping, who would play them on screen?

    Jackie Cham or Chris Rock?

  133. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @raga10

    I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Way too slow. Maybe you have to like chess to appreciate it.

    Replies: @raga10

    I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Way too slow. Maybe you have to like chess to appreciate it.

    I think it’s enough to appreciate women 🙂
    First episode was the least interesting for me, but I got through it and things got better. And seriously, I don’t think you have to like chess because I barely know how the pieces are supposed to move. I suppose if you do know something about the game it would add to your experience (they went to great lengths to make games they play real, these are never just pieces they put on the board at random) but I would say their greatest success was how they made a show about chess accessible to non-chess players.

  134. @Dan Smith
    The Left is obsessed by race, just like southern white racists after the Civil War.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ian Smith

    Well, they’re both Democrats, herp derp!

  135. A “white latina” who speaks English with a Scottish accent.

  136. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Luzzatto


    I doubt very much Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Person Of Color in Eazy E’s old Compton neighborhood!
     
    Except that Compton was 65% Latino way back in 2010!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton,_California#Demographics

    Pretty sure iSteve has touched on how that shift happened...MSM sure won't...

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    Eric Garcetti would be seen as a Guero in the Mexican community in Compton and not as a Brown Aztec Warrior. Also Compton still has Black neighborhoods!

  137. @Verymuchalive
    @syonredux

    Huh, you're a guy working in US liberal arts Academia whilst being a crypto-conservative ( not quite crypto-Armenian mode yet! ).
    But you've got a Litwak Jewish grandad, so maybe you should play the Jewish POC card yourself. It would surely make your working life much easier.
    Syonredux, time you became Zionredux !

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    Jews are not considered POC. If they were the Jewish William Shatner kissing a POC woman on Star Trek would not have been considered interracial and extremely controversial at the time. It would have just been oh it’s just 2 POC people kissing each other no huge deal!

  138. @jb
    @syonredux

    I read somewhere that she was completely unaware that there was anything odd about her eyes until she was a teenager, then someone pointed it out to her and she was self-conscious about it for years.

    Also:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/a1f/596/e9fc112a4f6ddb011602313b686edddc68-11-alita-battle-angel.rhorizontal.w700.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    https://www.vulture.com/2018/03/anya-taylor-joy-profile.html

    One of the first Facebook photos Anya Taylor-Joy was tagged in was a picture of a fish. “I must have been about 10 or 11,” she says. “I was so confused. I went to my parents like, ‘Why? I don’t understand.’ My sister sort of piped up, ‘It’s because your eyes are really far apart. You look like a fish.’ It was the most horrifying feeling – I’m now suddenly aware of something that I can’t ever be unaware of.”

    [MORE]

    Some stars spend years searching for the thing that will become their trademark. Taylor-Joy got hers from genetics: a pair of large, expressive eyes that have proven incredibly useful for the films in which the 21-year-old actress has made her name. While the first few months of the year are generally considered a cinematic wasteland, they’ve been good for Taylor-Joy. Each winter, she’s starred in a new piece of ambitious genre fare. Whether she’s a “synthetic human” (Morgan), a witchcraft-curious Puritan teen (The Witch), or, most recently, an icy rich girl in Connecticut (the new Thoroughbreds), the camera tends to behold her features with a kind of alien wonder. Directors love isolating her in close-ups, especially in M. Night Shyamalan’s Split, where she spent the entire film gazing in mute horror at James McAvoy’s multitude of accents.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @MEH 0910

    Perhaps she could star in The Shadow Over Innsmouth?

  139. @Mike Tre
    @syonredux

    She has bat shit crazy girlfriend written all over her:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gwtk4nMaUM0/maxresdefault.jpg

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Alden, @MEH 0910

    I Accidentally Became A Meme: Overly Attached Girlfriend

    An entry in a Justin Bieber video contest led to one of the biggest memes on the internet and changed one girl’s life forever.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  140. @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @MEH 0910

    There's a meth progression chart in that photo somewhere.

  141. @Louis Renault

    born and raised in Zambia
     
    And here I thought Zambia was in Africa.

    Replies: @unit472, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    This is even more insidious that it looks. The actress in question is 24 and, per Wikipedia, is the youngest of 6. Let’s assume 2.5 years between births, for the sake of argument. The eldest is 15 years older than the youngest. Let’s suppose the first was born at a maternal age of 21. That means the mother was NOT born in Zambia, she was born in Northern Rhodesia.
    There’s something sad and tragic about the white washing of history. Calling her mother’s birthplace “Zambia” is literally gaslighting in a strict sense, and it goes entirely unchallenged.

  142. Besides Alexis Bledel, there was an episode of “World’s Strictest Parents” that showed pretty well these white “Latino” types. As you can see from the video, the family is quite European-looking, with the father having blond hairs on his beard and big blue eyes.

    What really struck me about the video, though, were *manners* . The two British kids are so unruly and rude compared to their host Argentinean family. You can see that the mom was taken aback by the potty mouthed confrontational attitude from the English girl, because her own children never dared to talk to her like that.

    And, man, school from 8:00 AM to 5 PM every day, plus 3-4 hours of homework? That sucks. These upper crust Latinos take their educaton seriously. I would probably be running from school and smoking cigarettes too, if I were forced into this type of indentured servitude as a teen. The dad:

    “No smoking in this house. No drinking either. From home to school, and from school home. You ask permission to go out.”

    Really, really nice house and neighborhood, though.

  143. @notsaying
    @MEH 0910

    She just had a baby in September yet she has the second, most recent infant with her.
    Wouldn't a baby born to her be a premie still in the hospital?

    I have to know more before I decide she actually gave birth to the latest one.

    This woman has problems -- problems that simply having another baby won't solve. Will she give this one a Spanish name too?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  144. @AndrewR
    @Rockford Tyson

    She looks awful now. She was so cute back in the day.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @James J O'Meara

    I couldn’t find any “awful” photos, although she does look a bit older.

    Likely because of the electroshock treatment administered to her on Mad Men.

    Oddly, she then married Pete Campbell, so that also must have put on some wear and tear.

    https://www.startribune.com/mad-men-star-vincent-kartheiser-marries-alexis-bledel/270226061/

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @James J O'Meara

    Lmao you're mistaking her with Elizabeth Moss who is her co-star on Handmaid's Tale

    Replies: @J.Ross

  145. @obwandiyag
    Actors are almost all from rich families, often Intelligence Community related.

    It's kind of like the church used to be for the dumbest sons of the rich.

    They get to steal our money and pretend they "made" it fair and square, and then their idiot inbred children get to "entertain" us.

    Sounds fair.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Stebbing Heuer

    The linkages to Intell are indeed mind boggling. Or mind opening.

  146. @MEH 0910
    @jb

    https://www.vulture.com/2018/03/anya-taylor-joy-profile.html


    One of the first Facebook photos Anya Taylor-Joy was tagged in was a picture of a fish. “I must have been about 10 or 11,” she says. “I was so confused. I went to my parents like, ‘Why? I don’t understand.’ My sister sort of piped up, ‘It’s because your eyes are really far apart. You look like a fish.’ It was the most horrifying feeling – I’m now suddenly aware of something that I can’t ever be unaware of.”
     

    Some stars spend years searching for the thing that will become their trademark. Taylor-Joy got hers from genetics: a pair of large, expressive eyes that have proven incredibly useful for the films in which the 21-year-old actress has made her name. While the first few months of the year are generally considered a cinematic wasteland, they’ve been good for Taylor-Joy. Each winter, she’s starred in a new piece of ambitious genre fare. Whether she’s a “synthetic human” (Morgan), a witchcraft-curious Puritan teen (The Witch), or, most recently, an icy rich girl in Connecticut (the new Thoroughbreds), the camera tends to behold her features with a kind of alien wonder. Directors love isolating her in close-ups, especially in M. Night Shyamalan’s Split, where she spent the entire film gazing in mute horror at James McAvoy’s multitude of accents.
     

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    Perhaps she could star in The Shadow Over Innsmouth?

  147. @MEH 0910
    @Alden


    Bat shit crazy girl looks just like Prince Andrews daughters.
     
    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/L_0swOx-e4pcLK_nIc2Mmx_nUfA=/1200x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/XMK6ZHPJKZGHTIDKLBFPOMLGSA.jpg

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    There’s a meth progression chart in that photo somewhere.

  148. @International Jew
    For blacks we have the one-drop rule. Hispanics come under a one-grain rule; if you were born in Latin America, then no matter your genetics, a little bit of tragic dirt adheres to you, bequeathing a measure of that coveted non-whiteness.

    Replies: @Lloyd1927

    If there were truly a “one drop rule,” nearly ALL Latinos and Arabs in this country would be “black.”

    • Agree: Luzzatto
    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Lloyd1927

    The vast manjority of Latinos from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay have less black ancestry than your typical white American. These countries simply never brought blacks as slaves. They have zero black ancestry. None. Zilch. Nada. Get over it.

    Replies: @Luzzatto

  149. @syonredux
    @Travis

    Rather surprised that they don't toss in Johnny Cash and his daughter, Rosanne:


    A DNA test of Johnny’s daughter Rosanne whose results were displayed on the show Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. (2021) stated that Rosanne’s genetic ancestry is:

    *92.3% European
    *3.8% Western Asian
    *3.3% Sub-Saharan African
    *0.6% Unassigned

    During their marriage, Johnny and his wife, Rosanne’s mother Vivian, were often the subject of racist attacks by people who believed that Vivian was a black woman. Genealogical researchers for the show discovered that Vivian was of approximately 1/32 African descent, unbeknownst to the family, with DNA research indicating that Johnny likely had a similar percentage of African ancestry.
     
    https://ethnicelebs.com/johnny-cash

    Replies: @Lloyd1927

    Her Sicilian father’s genes had to give Vivian Liberto Cash her “mulatto” looks. The tiny amount of “black” was not nearly enough. I have met a lot of mulatto-looking whites who were Sicilians, Latinos, Arabs, Ashkenazi Jews, Greeks, Turks, etc.

    • Agree: Luzzatto
  150. @James J O'Meara
    @AndrewR

    I couldn't find any "awful" photos, although she does look a bit older.

    Likely because of the electroshock treatment administered to her on Mad Men.

    Oddly, she then married Pete Campbell, so that also must have put on some wear and tear.

    https://www.startribune.com/mad-men-star-vincent-kartheiser-marries-alexis-bledel/270226061/

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Lmao you’re mistaking her with Elizabeth Moss who is her co-star on Handmaid’s Tale

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AndrewR

    Wait, this chick and and Sydney Sweeney are on Handmaids' Tale now? I need to get back into that.

  151. A typical actressy resume that is full of utter bullshit recycled in Wikipedia.

    I don’t believe a word of her refusing to speak English for 2 years as a child, but since her mother was born and raised in Africa, if she ever added US citizenship to her portfolio of passports, she would probably be classified in the census as African-American, just like Obama.

    What was it that PT Barnum said about suckers?

  152. Regardless of looks and genetic make-up, she ticks all the right boxes to be officially “hispanic”, according to the census.

  153. interesting that living in Argentina for 3 years will turn an Anglo-Saxon into a Latino , but living your entire life in the United States will not make the grandchild of a Spaniard into a white American today. In the recent past this was not the case, nobody considered Jerry Garcia to be Hispanic , even though his father was born in Spain. Yet today the grandchildren of Jerry Garcia will qualify as being Latino and can obtain affirmative action benefits. If one of your 4 grandparents was Spanish , you can be considered Hispanic today. It is like the one drop rule for Spanish ethnicity, despite having been raised in America and being you can still make the claim of being Hispanic. So while the government constantly reminds us that Hispanic is an ethnicity , it is the only ethnicity which can skip generations and get passed down to future generations raised in anglo culture to people who have zero ties to Spanish culture.

    This is due to the flight from white. We now live in a world which encourages whites to pass for Latino when they have very little connection to the Latin culture. This started due to affirmative action. Back in my high school a classmate of mine used his Spanish surname to gain entry into Stanford, and he often joked about it. He knew that his academic credentials would not have qualified him for a top 50 University, yet because his grandfather immigrated from Cuba and he had a Spanish name he qualified as a Latino. Neither him nor his parents spoke Spanish and his parents were raised in America and were completely American. He was no more ethnically Hispanic than Joe Biden and looked a lot like Joe Biden. yet he was one of the Hispanics admitted to Stanford due to affirmative action back in 1987.

  154. @obwandiyag
    Actors are almost all from rich families, often Intelligence Community related.

    It's kind of like the church used to be for the dumbest sons of the rich.

    They get to steal our money and pretend they "made" it fair and square, and then their idiot inbred children get to "entertain" us.

    Sounds fair.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Stebbing Heuer

    Look at her father’s career. Argentina? He is British overseas intelligence for sure.

  155. @Trinity
    Hispanics are NOT LATINS.

    LATINS are NOT Hispanic.

    Hispanics have Spaniard blood, they are a MIXED RACE, not a pure race of people.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Anon

    Not all so-called Hispanics have Spaniard blood. It varies a lot by country and region.

  156. Hilaria Baldwin has shown you need zero Spanish grandparents to be hisherortheyspanic to right on people.

  157. @Lloyd1927
    @International Jew

    If there were truly a "one drop rule," nearly ALL Latinos and Arabs in this country would be "black."

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    The vast manjority of Latinos from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay have less black ancestry than your typical white American. These countries simply never brought blacks as slaves. They have zero black ancestry. None. Zilch. Nada. Get over it.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Disagree: Luzzatto
    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Rockford Tyson

    WRONG. "White Argentines" have significantly more Black ancestry than White Americans. Facts do not care about your muh feelings!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentines#DNA_genetics_studies

  158. @AndrewR
    @James J O'Meara

    Lmao you're mistaking her with Elizabeth Moss who is her co-star on Handmaid's Tale

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Wait, this chick and and Sydney Sweeney are on Handmaids’ Tale now? I need to get back into that.

  159. @Abe
    OT-

    Yo, bitches, the ebooks for Jonathan Franzen’s THE CORRECTIONS and Daniel Kahneman’s THINKING FAST & SLOW (subject of Steve’s TAKI’s essay from last week) are both on sale for $4.99 today at Amazon, Google, etc. Never saw the former below $10 so I’m super jazzed!

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Lockean Proviso, @duncsbaby

    Sorry, not contributing to the Bezos fortune anymore. I get my books on ebay and thriftbooks for about a $1 cheaper normally.

  160. @Rockford Tyson
    @Lloyd1927

    The vast manjority of Latinos from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay have less black ancestry than your typical white American. These countries simply never brought blacks as slaves. They have zero black ancestry. None. Zilch. Nada. Get over it.

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    WRONG. “White Argentines” have significantly more Black ancestry than White Americans. Facts do not care about your muh feelings!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentines#DNA_genetics_studies

  161. In the past, Argentina received 7 million European immigrants, second only to the US (24 million). The majority of them were Italians, Spaniards and Germans, but significant numbers of Irish, Polish, French and British also arrived. Every country in Europe has a strong community in Argentina. The mistake stems from the ignorance of a reporter who thinks that all countries South of the border are equal to Mexico.

  162. @Ian Smith
    Hmm, half British, half Argentine... I wonder if there’s a ban on discussing the Falklands/Malvinas in her family.

    Glad her career is taking off. Talented and beautiful.

    Replies: @German

    They discuss the Hand of God

  163. Vigo Mortensen is another actor who grew up in Argentina. He speaks perfect Spanish. Is he regarded as a “man of color” in the US?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @German

    Viggo is Italian on his mother's side, so he can play Italian well, like in "Green Book." But he looks real Northern European. He was to David Cronenberg for awhile what DeNiro and then DiCaprio were to Scorsese, so he tended to get cast in Cronenberg's projects even if he didn't look perfect for the role, such as Sigmund Freud. Playing a Russian in "Eastern Promises" for Cronenberg worked out well, getting Mortensen a Best Actor nomination. But I was distracted by his Northern looks in "A History of Violence," about an ex-mafioso trying to flee his old gang, which led Cronenberg to cast Ed Harris and William Hurt as members of his crime family.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto

  164. @German
    Vigo Mortensen is another actor who grew up in Argentina. He speaks perfect Spanish. Is he regarded as a "man of color" in the US?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Viggo is Italian on his mother’s side, so he can play Italian well, like in “Green Book.” But he looks real Northern European. He was to David Cronenberg for awhile what DeNiro and then DiCaprio were to Scorsese, so he tended to get cast in Cronenberg’s projects even if he didn’t look perfect for the role, such as Sigmund Freud. Playing a Russian in “Eastern Promises” for Cronenberg worked out well, getting Mortensen a Best Actor nomination. But I was distracted by his Northern looks in “A History of Violence,” about an ex-mafioso trying to flee his old gang, which led Cronenberg to cast Ed Harris and William Hurt as members of his crime family.

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Steve Sailer

    Viggo does not have any Italian ancestry!
    https://ethnicelebs.com/viggo-mortensen
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viggo_Mortensen

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Luzzatto
    @Steve Sailer

    The Philadelphia gang in A History Of Violence are The Irish Mob and not The Italian La Cosa Nostra. That's why none of the gangsters in A History Of Violence have a Mediterranean phenotype and all of the gangsters look like they could be members of The English Royal Family!

  165. @Steve Sailer
    @German

    Viggo is Italian on his mother's side, so he can play Italian well, like in "Green Book." But he looks real Northern European. He was to David Cronenberg for awhile what DeNiro and then DiCaprio were to Scorsese, so he tended to get cast in Cronenberg's projects even if he didn't look perfect for the role, such as Sigmund Freud. Playing a Russian in "Eastern Promises" for Cronenberg worked out well, getting Mortensen a Best Actor nomination. But I was distracted by his Northern looks in "A History of Violence," about an ex-mafioso trying to flee his old gang, which led Cronenberg to cast Ed Harris and William Hurt as members of his crime family.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Luzzatto

    Right. I was wrong.

  166. @Steve Sailer
    @German

    Viggo is Italian on his mother's side, so he can play Italian well, like in "Green Book." But he looks real Northern European. He was to David Cronenberg for awhile what DeNiro and then DiCaprio were to Scorsese, so he tended to get cast in Cronenberg's projects even if he didn't look perfect for the role, such as Sigmund Freud. Playing a Russian in "Eastern Promises" for Cronenberg worked out well, getting Mortensen a Best Actor nomination. But I was distracted by his Northern looks in "A History of Violence," about an ex-mafioso trying to flee his old gang, which led Cronenberg to cast Ed Harris and William Hurt as members of his crime family.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto

    The Philadelphia gang in A History Of Violence are The Irish Mob and not The Italian La Cosa Nostra. That’s why none of the gangsters in A History Of Violence have a Mediterranean phenotype and all of the gangsters look like they could be members of The English Royal Family!

  167. @Luzzatto
    @Steve Sailer

    Viggo does not have any Italian ancestry!
    https://ethnicelebs.com/viggo-mortensen
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viggo_Mortensen

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Right. I was wrong.

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