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In 2022, the one thing the whole world can agree upon is that there are Nazis under every bed.

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1496696108424253443

When Xi invades Taiwan, he’ll probably declare he had to do it to root out Chinese Taipei’s Nazis.

When Egypt and Sudan jointly bomb the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam on the Blue Nile, they’ll announce they are fighting the Water Nazis.

When China invades Indian-controlled Ladakh high in the Himalayas, Xi will declare that he had to do it because he had learned that Hindus like swastikas.

On the other hand, modern multiculturalism is making even anti-Nazism complicated. For instance, from The Print:

Don’t conflate Swastika with Hakenkreuz: US-based Hindu group to Canadian PM Trudeau & Jagmeet Singh
LALIT K JHA
16 February, 2022 12:00 pm IST

Washington, Feb 16 (PTI) A prominent US-based Hindu organisation has urged Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Indian-origin leader Jagmeet Singh not to conflate the “Swastika”, an ancient and auspicious symbol for Hindus with the “Hakenkreuz”, a 20th century Nazi symbol of hate.

Amidst massive protests by hundreds of truck drivers against Canada’s COVID-19 restrictions, New Democratic Party (NDP) leader Jagmeet Singh tweeted, “Swastikas and Confederate flags have no place in Canada.

“We have a responsibility to make our communities safe for everyone — it’s time to ban hate symbols in Canada. Together, we can make sure hate is given no space to take hold and no air to breathe,” Singh wrote on February 2.

Both Trudeau and Singh have made statements in the recent past, accusing protesters of “waving Swastikas”.

Reacting to this, the HinduPACT (Hindu Policy Research and Advocacy Collective) has urged Trudeau and Singh not to conflate the “Swastika”, an ancient and auspicious symbol for Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and many indigenous communities around the world, with the “Hakenkreuz”, a 20th century Nazi symbol of hate.

“We believe this misrepresentation will lead to hate crimes against Hindus and Sikhs. In the past month alone, six Hindu temples were vandalised and looted in Canada,” said Utsav Chakrabarti, executive director of HinduPACT.

So, make sure you conduct your anti-Nazi kinetic actions in a culturally sensitive fashion.

 
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  1. Tragic but this will be beneficial to America.

    Before this is over our brave youngsters the most diverse and vibrant in history will whoop butt even worse than what we did to the nazis and southerners and civil rights against ers

    America will come together to liberate Europe from the Russian nazis and conservatism and white supremacy will be dealt a hard blow

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    • Replies: @Cato
    @Ebony Obelisk


    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict
     
    Me too. Deeply regret. Sorry, Joe. And my kids: they are all in college, so don't even think about it.

    Replies: @neutral

    , @James Braxton
    @Ebony Obelisk

    Ukraine is not in any alliance with us. We owe Ukraine nothing other than maybe an apology.

    We don't feel the need to use military force to liberate Cyprus from Turkey, Golan Heights from Israel, Western Sahara from Morocco, Tibet from China, etc. Why would this be any different?

    , @Muggles
    @Ebony Obelisk


    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict
     
    Ya, "too old."

    You never did say where your stand-up act is playing.

    A lot of empty clubs need talent in Kyiv. They might even like your act, though I don't know.

    Be careful about your Russian jokes. Not much sense of humor there. Or "White people bad" jokes.

    You'll need some new material. Maybe some Belarus jokes. No one likes them and they are even dumber than Russians. And beet jokes.

    "I ate so much borscht my pee looked like the Red Sea!" There's a freebie for you...
  2. anon[665] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin’s invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It’s too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine’s eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia — a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine’s border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it’s now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope’s wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China — would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That’s the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of “rights and national autonomy.” Blinken et al. wouldn’t be waxing poetic about the “rights” of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors’ parliaments in no time, and it would not be “democratic.” This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion — i.e., economic pain — but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext — perhaps you’re “too tough on LGBT” or whatever — then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we’re about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be — which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn’t terribly concern me: all three of America’s greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer’s when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn’t the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden’s cabinet performing? At this point I’ll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There’s also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden’s administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration’s behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn’t the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn’t have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn’t have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn’t be unfolding.

    I’m not sure if it’s because Trump was a “mad man” and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so “sensible” and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about “all nations having the ‘right’ to apply for NATO membership,” he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration’s failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core — like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism — you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    Excellent analysis. What I find so striking about Biden's cabinet is its sub-mediocre quality. Is there a single confidence-inspiring figure among them? His Transportation Secretary was nowhere to be found when the backlog at the ports became front-page news--turns out he was on paternity leave, which hadn't been previously reported. Maybe Mayor Pete thought he had one of those no-show jobs. He didn't get around to visiting Long Beach and LA for months and then it was only to pose for pictures and make statements. Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean, @Old Prude

    , @Lurker
    @anon


    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be
     
    Was he ever?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Lurker
    @anon


    the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration’s behalf
     
    We shouldn't see them as discrete entities. They are part of the same media-political complex. The serve the same agenda.
    , @JimDandy
    @anon

    Unfortunately, a lot of otherwise sane, intelligent Americans reflexively support America in any international conflict and just as reflexively see Putin as the type of one-dimensional red villain that populated 1980's movies like Red Dawn and Rocky IV.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @anon

    It's also worth reflecting on the fact that we spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined. Yet, even if we wanted to fight we don't have enough ground game to decisely deter and defeat an invasion by Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).

    So remind me again, where did those trillions of spending go? Was it all used on DIE consultants and investigating the causes of White Rage?

    Replies: @Dumbo

    , @anon
    @anon


    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind

     

    with respect to Mexico, Chinese meddling has been the norm:
    https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/2021-08/Illicit_Fentanyl_from_China-An_Evolving_Global_Operation.pdf

    with respect to Canada, Chinese meddling has been the norm:
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/activists-experts-and-policy-makers-speak-out-on-chinese-state-influence-in-canada-1.5407770

    When was the last time the 82nd Airborne Division was in Ottawa or Mexico City?

    , @Prester John
    @anon

    Spot-on! Liked the comments about Wilson, FDR and Reagan. The office of POTUS in and of itself is meaningless. As always it depends upon who is behind the desk and the kind of people under him. As to Biden I still think it's even money that he won't make it to 2024. A pity that his successor is doesn't seem to know which end is up.

    Putin sees how weak and flaccid the US is at present, which is why he feels he can get away with what he is doing. And what he is doing is, as far as he is concerned, in accordance with the interests of HIS country--not the United States.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @anon

    Great analysis. Well done, sir. Well done.

  3. Go Russia! 👊🏻

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJkXFwhCFLo

    , @anon
    @Anonymous


    Go Russia!
     
    no, the woke term for "Russia" is "ROC"... or something.
  4. There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Harry Baldwin

    I slept with a Red in my bed once in college. She seemed to like riding my personal “fasces.”

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51A3CF-3M1L._AC_UL200_SR160,200_.jpg

    , @Twinkie
    @Harry Baldwin


    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.
     
    Everything in the news in this country is Holocaust morality play.

    There is a Holocaust Memorial right in the imperial capital - and in just about every city of size - as a reminder to all right-thinking Americans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @Brutusale

  5. Hey, here’s an invasion story for you:

    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

    “The 46.6 million immigrants (legal and illegal) in the country in January 2022 is the largest number recorded in any government survey or decennial census going back to 1850,” the CIS says in a report released on February 23.

    Breitbart

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anon7


    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.
     
    Yep. That's the invasion story that actually matters for Americans.

    ~~

    If there's a simple common cause of conflict in the modern world it would have to be "parasitism".

    Some people(s) just will not let other people(s) alone to do their own thing: Live according to their own norms and culture; associate with whom they want; don't associate with whom they don't want. Some subset of the human species just insists on glomming on to other people's stuff and/or ordering them to behave in this or that manner.

    The Russia/Ukraine thing could be quickly resolved by people of good will be Russia leaving Ukrainians who like being Ukrainian to do their own thing. And Ukrainians who like being Russian to do their own thing--including becoming part of Russia.

    The "race problem" in the US likewise could be sorted by separation. Blacks who do not want to live by traditional white public norms, creating their own nation. All the people who love "diversity" and want to boss everyone's interactions according to DIE diktat going off to form their Rainbow nation. And Americans who actually like being American forming up America 2.0.

    The problem as always is that people enjoying their own organic communities, associating only voluntary with others and governing themselves as they see fit ... just doesn't suit the desires of parasitic looters trying to glom on.

    Replies: @S

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @Anon7

    Not sure how they claim 1.6 million since Biden, when they said 2.? million entered the country in the first 10 months Biden was in office. Those are just the ones we caught and kind of know about.

  6. Wait I thought this was about supplanting the Leninist project with a new Putinist framework. You mean to tell me when Putin repeatedly cried about the fall of the Soviet Union it wasn’t because he actually hated the Soviet Union.

    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union. I wonder if the new eastern Ukrainian government has a brutha in it.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Sam Haysom

    Sam Haysom wrote:


    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union.
     
    Jack Kennedy would not tolerate Russian nukes in Cuba (although, under international law, the Cubans had a right to ally with anyone they wished).

    Putin would not allow a US puppet regime in Kiev that kept wanting to join NATO.

    Not "Russian woke"; just geopolitical realities.

    A lot of people are going to die because of the stupidity of the Biden regime.

    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn't make a sensible deal.

    Now people will die.

    I pointed out a couple days ago here that Russians really are fond of Odessa. Russian marines have now landed in Odessa.

    I predict that the post-war settlement involves a substantial expansion of the Russian Black Sea coast.

    I just hope Putin realizes that he does not want or need Kiev: he should put his own puppet regime in place (to replace Vicky Nuland's puppet regime) and let Kiev pretend to rule what is left of Ukraine.

    As Schiller said, “Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.”

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @PhysicistDave

  7. OT. Another classic movie’s been remade with a black actor playing a real White person Christian de Neuvillett. From the Cyrano de Bergerac story. . And of course one of the 3 major characters Christian is of course an ugly black actor. It’s a true story about real people . The author Rostand switched the ages and relationships. Cyrano was a younger cousin of Madeline. She and Christian had been married for years before he came to Paris. Made by MGM. Boycott.

    • Replies: @zacie
    @Alden

    And all the online advertising I’ve seen for it seems to be hiding the fact that they cast a blackpipo as the suitor.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Anonymous
    @Alden

    OT Reply: White supremacist Gary Brooker MBE, singer, pianist and composer of Procol Harum’s “The Unbearable Whiteness of Shades of Pale” is dead at 76.

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Alden

    I didn't realise that was a true story. Your comment is the first I've seen mention the fact in relation to this film, so I suppose that's a battle that has been won now, and any white historical figures can and should be black.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden

    I doubt anyone will have to be encouraged to boycott it. The movie will probably bomb all by itself just like Spielberg's West Side Story which grossed just $70 million on a budget of $100 million. You'd have to pay me to watch this crap.

  8. The true enemy is less what you can see, and more what you can not see.

    I’ll be here all evening.

    • Agree: profnasty
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Mike Tre

    "The true enemy is less what you can see, and more what you can not see."

    Kung Fu Season 2 Episode 21 "The Spirit-helper" Original Air Date November 8, 1973

  9. There are definitely Neo-Nazi forces that are part of the Ukraine Military.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ken52

    (Don't be mean, Steve doesn't know anything about foreign policy. He's mentally still in that golden time when American boomers didn't need to think about other countries.)

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Ken52

    This is true.

    It's so weird. The far-right should really be supporting Ukraine against the Slavic untermenschen.

    I have to laugh at that propaganda piece downgrading the Azov brigade's true colors. They are Nazis.

    https://forward.com/opinion/416751/why-does-no-one-care-that-neo-nazis-are-gaining-power-in-ukraine/

  10. Putin could probably invade Ottawa and get the same push back from biden. After all the truckers’ ‘honk honk’ was code for Heil Hitler. Seriously, a Liberal MP said that’s what honk honk meant.

  11. Please update us on what David French is saying.

    • LOL: AnotherDad, Bill
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @newrouter

    You ask too much. I’d imagine reading the NYTs is exhausting enough. To read that on top of reading cuckservative drivel is too much for anyone.

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @newrouter

    "The conservative case for sending red-state boys to die in war while I watch from a safe distance".

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @MEH 0910
    @newrouter


    Please update us on what David French is saying.
     
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1496732331373170688

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ic1000

  12. Wait, from the stuff he says, I thought David Frum is a neo-Nazi. He’s not?

    • Replies: @Russ
    @New Dealer


    Wait, from the stuff he says, I thought David Frum is a neo-Nazi. He’s not?
     
    Taki best defined David Frum: Mr. Danielle Crittenden.
  13. Martha Radditz, David Muir’s magnificent hairdo, and their retired military consultants were just on with a special bulletin that Russian armored columns are racing across Ukraine, cruise missile strikes are in progress, and Martha in Kiev can hear the explosions from the air strikes and artillery.
    How come I can’t find this breaking news anywhere else?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Alfa158

    Norah O'Donnell was on CBS for about 15 minutes. Charlie D'Agata in Kiev - sorry, Kyiv - heard a whooshing sound behind him and ducked for cover, but fortunately he managed to avoid getting blown up.

    David Martin, the Pentagon correspondent, looked half-dead. He needs to retire.

    All in all, I was pretty disappointed with the TV coverage of the launch of World War III. I thought we'd see a lot more explosions. No kiss kiss, no bang bang - who cares?

    See, when America wants to intervene in another country's affairs, we blow the everloving f**k out of the capital city. This is how you launch a war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Smjn9wou8

    Replies: @clifford brown

    , @anon
    @Alfa158

    You should know why already. Turn on RT for some actual news.
    (And ignore this piece, and much of this thread, for some intelligent commentary).

    , @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    What is your point? That there is no invasion? That was yesterday's phony talking point. Please keep up with the party line. RT will keep you up to date on what you should be saying today.

    Today's line is that Putin will decide when Ukraine offensive ends. In order for the offensive to end, it has to have begun already, no?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550466-putin-ukraine-opeartion-goals/

    The article states:


    The Russian military launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Putin’s order right after his televised address. The defense ministry said it was targeting elements of the Ukrainian military infrastructure and sought to avoid civilian casualties. Multiple reports from the ground said apparent Russian strikes throughout Ukraine have caused damage to military bases, weapons depots and some arms factories.
     
    Since RT said it, it's OK for you to believe it. So it turns out that those "military exercises" really were a preparation for a war and that the Kremlin was lying when they said they weren't. I'm so shocked - when has the Kremlin ever lied before?

    Replies: @utu, @Alfa158, @Paperback Writer

  14. @Alden
    OT. Another classic movie’s been remade with a black actor playing a real White person Christian de Neuvillett. From the Cyrano de Bergerac story. . And of course one of the 3 major characters Christian is of course an ugly black actor. It’s a true story about real people . The author Rostand switched the ages and relationships. Cyrano was a younger cousin of Madeline. She and Christian had been married for years before he came to Paris. Made by MGM. Boycott.

    Replies: @zacie, @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Jim Don Bob

    And all the online advertising I’ve seen for it seems to be hiding the fact that they cast a blackpipo as the suitor.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @zacie

    I saw the trailer. The black unknown is not even near good looking. With untended messy hair. The whole point of the story is that Christian was extremely good looking. I hope no one goes to see it. And a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men. Boxing bull fighting tennis fighting lots of activities including sword fighting the longer the arms the more advantage. Bull fighter scouts look for kids with long arms. Same for fencing baseball lots of things.

    They were all real people. Cyrano was gay had syphilis of the anus. And really did have a very large nose for which he was teased as a kid. Write some books. Experimented with rockets. The real Madeline was one of the learned ladies. Interested in fine language and the Academy that wrote dictionaries and codified the rules of grammar. And elevating the tail end of rough medieval society into good manners fine cooking etc.

    Boycott MGM

    Replies: @Adept, @Paperback Writer, @Jim Don Bob

  15. @New Dealer
    Wait, from the stuff he says, I thought David Frum is a neo-Nazi. He's not?

    Replies: @Russ

    Wait, from the stuff he says, I thought David Frum is a neo-Nazi. He’s not?

    Taki best defined David Frum: Mr. Danielle Crittenden.

  16. and Trump just announced

    Former US President Donald Trump took to the airwaves on Fox News as the Russian offensive began on Wednesday night US time to argue that it “wouldn’t have taken place” during his administration.

    Even if completely true, this is not the time to say this. An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity. David Cole is right about Trump, he is a disaster for the American right.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Disagree: Abe, James Braxton
    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @AKAHorace

    I understand the concept of "my country, right or wrong". It's just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AKAHorace

    , @Redman
    @AKAHorace

    But why would you expect him to say anything else? Should he be touting how great it is that Biden’s ineptitude has led to this?

    The only reason to have Trump on TV is to point out the contrasts with his foreign policy. I think we need to be fighting this “rally round the flag” bull shit the MSM is flooding the airwaves with right now. This ain’t my war.

    , @Curle
    @AKAHorace

    “An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity.”

    Because campaign contributions are never related to war profits?

    , @Wokechoke
    @AKAHorace

    It didn’t happen while he was in charge. Did it? It happened while Biden was in charge. And I might add Biden was building up Ukraine like personal fiefdom. He’s a big factor in why this war is starting.

  17. Putin Declares War on Nazis

    I don’t know. They both seem like nice people.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    Why is Putin so upset about nazis anyway. I mean what did they ever do to Russia? Oh right . . .

    Replies: @profnasty

  18. In 2022, the one thing the whole world can agree upon is that there are Nazis under every bed.

    That means in 2022 there’s a Jew in every brain.

    Even when Jews torment Russia, Putin doesn’t mention the Jews but the ‘nazis’.

    Jewish Narrative colonizes and colors everything.

  19. The “Nazis” Putin is taking about are a lot more Nazi than the “Nazis” Frum is talking about.

    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police, Schutzmannschaft, in the German military, and serving as concentration camp guards. Nationalists in western Ukraine were among the most enthusiastic and hoped that their efforts would enable them to re-establish an independent state later on…. on the eve of Operation’ Barbarossa, as many as 4000 Ukrainians, operating under Wehrmacht orders, sought to cause disruption behind Soviet lines. After the capture of Lviv, a highly-contentious and strategically-important city with a significant Ukrainian minority, OUN leaders proclaimed a new Ukrainian State on June 30, 1941 and simultaneously encouraged loyalty to the new regime in the hope that they would be supported by the Germans.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways ...
     
    As quite reasonably so.

    They'd been treated poorly by the Commies--including a starved in a massive famine--and probably thought "let's get out from under those assholes!" (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i've mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of "nationalism" but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought "these Germans can't be any worse than the commies".)

    Replies: @Twinkie, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox

    , @Fluesterwitz
    @JimDandy

    Between June 1941 and the first half of 1945, potential allies for anti-communists in general and Ukrainian nationalists in particular were somewhat scarce.

    , @Exile
    @JimDandy

    No one including Putin believes that the Azov Battalion are Hitlerian National Socialists.

    They're the Praetorian Guard for a Jewish comedian who gets his punch lines from America's Ashkepathic "Ukrainian" diaspora - phoning it in from their "refugee" shelters in the Department of Defense, State Department and American think-tanks.

    Putin is just getting his share of the legitimacy gibs that being "anti-fascist" gets you on today's world stage. The US and Israel have both been dining out on that card for years - ask Dresden, Nagasaki and Lebanon.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @William Badwhite
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police,
     
    Its almost like a Soviet engineered famine that killed millions of them made the Ukrainians happy to "collaborate" with anyone there to kill Soviets.
  20. was all orchestrated by Putin, Trump,
    @GOP
    , and several congressional members last July. #markmtwords #planB A calculated move to create an autocratic regime in the United States with Trump as a Dictator and a faux savior of peace.

    The twisted irony is amazing, Putin behaving like Hitler with an unjustified invasion of a neighbour, claiming to get rid of Nazis in Ukraine, while online Nazis cheer on Putin

    Conservatives are treasonous

  21. @Harry Baldwin
    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there's a Nazi under every bedsheet.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Twinkie

    I slept with a Red in my bed once in college. She seemed to like riding my personal “fasces.”

  22. @Ebony Obelisk
    Tragic but this will be beneficial to America.

    Before this is over our brave youngsters the most diverse and vibrant in history will whoop butt even worse than what we did to the nazis and southerners and civil rights against ers

    America will come together to liberate Europe from the Russian nazis and conservatism and white supremacy will be dealt a hard blow

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    Replies: @Cato, @James Braxton, @Muggles

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    Me too. Deeply regret. Sorry, Joe. And my kids: they are all in college, so don’t even think about it.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Cato

    There is no way I can see a military draft in America being feasible, even if they have endless propaganda about how this is a global crusade for LGXYZ and BLM, I cannot see how there will be any enthusiasm to die for what is really just neocons/neoliberals.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  23. Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country. I believe they had a think tank named after Goebbels. Sounds pretty Nazi to me.
    At any rate, Ukrainians can be Nazis or freedom fighters, and Russia can be defending their own borders or invading someone else’s, however you choose to interpret it. It is still NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. The only thing we will ever get out of our global hegemony is more immigrants, more wasted tax dollars, more propaganda, more restrictions on our civil liberties, more American oligarchs controlling our politics, and did I mention, more immigrants?
    Stop thinking about the Eurasian chessboard. Turn your back and walk away. We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @HammerJack
    @rebel yell


    We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.
     
    You misspelled had.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @rebel yell


    We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in...
     
    "...and you wouldn't want to see anything happen to it, would you?"



    https://c.tenor.com/xDZDJES19S0AAAAC/gangster-threat.gif

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Bill Jones
    @rebel yell


    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country
     
    I think you are wrong. The Ukrainians are not neo-Nazis, they are Heritage Nazi's.
    They are not like the neo-con filth who glommed onto the "Conservatives" as a temporary tool to be used for the greater good of Israel, these Uke's seem to be the sons and grandsons of those who saw the Nazi's as a source of strength against the communists destroying their people (And those communists were the fathers of the US neocons in many instances).
    The Ukraine Nazi's came by it honestly. That they prove to be tools of the Nuland's is just one more of life's little ironies.
  24. @newrouter
    Please update us on what David French is saying.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Mike_from_SGV, @MEH 0910

    You ask too much. I’d imagine reading the NYTs is exhausting enough. To read that on top of reading cuckservative drivel is too much for anyone.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  25. @Anonymous
    Go Russia! 👊🏻

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @anon

  26. @rebel yell
    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country. I believe they had a think tank named after Goebbels. Sounds pretty Nazi to me.
    At any rate, Ukrainians can be Nazis or freedom fighters, and Russia can be defending their own borders or invading someone else's, however you choose to interpret it. It is still NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. The only thing we will ever get out of our global hegemony is more immigrants, more wasted tax dollars, more propaganda, more restrictions on our civil liberties, more American oligarchs controlling our politics, and did I mention, more immigrants?
    Stop thinking about the Eurasian chessboard. Turn your back and walk away. We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    “Sounds pretty Nazi to me.”

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, the President of Ukraine, and some of its powerful oligarchs, are Jewish, and meanwhile the Bandera group that took power after Maidan were neo-Nazis. How they cooperate or vie for power with each other, I don't know. It's a corrupt place with lots of kooks. Not my country and not my war.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    I think Putin was talking about these guys (perhaps among others):

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-azov-should-not-be-designated-a-foreign-terrorist-organization/

    The Azov regiment that is, not the Atlantic Council.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    , @LarryS
    @Steve Sailer

    Yep. Perfect setup for "let’s you and him fight."

    , @Sean
    @Steve Sailer

    Volodymyr Zelensky is a Russian speaker and Jewish. But fantastic as it seems, his government, including the intelligence service, is actually dominated by neither identity, but rather former players in his TV jester troupe whose own preferment stems from their personal loyalty to him, and though media and tech savvy they are totally inexperienced in international affairs. Ukraine has delivered its destiny into the hands of professional clowns, and Putin is about to bring down the curtain on this comedy


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hGkAAOSwwPhWiHxR/s-l400.jpg

    , @The Craw
    @Steve Sailer

    Read more about it, Steve.

    From Haaretz in 2018:

    "A group of more than 40 human rights activists have filed a petition with the High Court of Justice, demanding the cessation of Israeli arms exports to Ukraine.

    "They argue that these weapons serve forces that openly espouse a neo-Nazi ideology and cite evidence that the right-wing Azov militia, whose members are part of Ukraine’s armed forces, and are supported by the country’s ministry of internal affairs, is using these weapons."
    ...

    "Nevertheless, this is not the first time in which the defense establishment is arming forces that embrace a national socialist ideology."

    In the past, Israel has armed anti-Semitic regimes, such as the generals’ regime in Argentina, which murdered thousands of Jews in camps while its soldiers stood in watchtowers guarding the abducted prisoners with their Uzi submachine guns.

    According to a freedom of information petition to Israel's defense ministry from last January (Hebrew: read in full here), Israel also armed Bolivia's military regimes, knowing that Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie was part of the regime. Legal documents used to convict the head of the junta also showed that Barbie's death squads used Israeli Uzis."

    ...

    "In the city of Dnepropetrovsk in eastern Ukraine there is a military training school. Its website indicates that training there is provided former IDF officers and that its instructors were trained by Israelis."

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

    , @Ken52
    @Steve Sailer

    Read the Haaretz article
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

    , @Dumbo
    @Steve Sailer

    In a way, it does. Many "neo-nazis" in the US were Jewish or Jewish funded too. It's a useful boogeyman.

    Anyway, perhaps Steve should focus on pronouns and capitalizations and golf, and leave foreign affairs to others who understand the issue better? His flippant tone is not suited to serious analysis.

    Not that I know much better. I just like Putin, as opposed to Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, Biden etc. At least he's doing things for Russians and is loved by Russians in his nation and abroad. Can't say the same of any current Western leaders.

    Replies: @Somnambule

    , @cad
    @Steve Sailer

    well is any of this stuff, over there, supposed to make sense to us, over here? Sounds like Slav vs Slav.

    , @MGB
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve’s analysis. Brought to you by the Roadrunner/Wiley Coyote Masters in history program.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Steve Sailer

    Real people are getting killed so fat shits can masturbate their egos. Probably no decent people think this is fit for making jokes about it. Maybe call on that skeez Condaleeza and get her deer-in-the-headlights analysis of legitimate defensive war versus illiegitimate defensive war.

  27. If you want a sample of what Democrats think, read a few of these tweets. They are delusional.

    Mind you, a lot of Republicans are too, but they aren’t as crazy about it.

    • Agree: Dr. DoomNGloom
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mr. Anon

    Actually named Redhead. Why not change it to Roth Ross Rossi Go back to the old country.

    , @Charon
    @Mr. Anon


    Taking Russia's side in a conflict with America & the West
     
    Hear that? Russia is attacking "America & the West." How shall we respond, FWP?
  28. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Yes, the President of Ukraine, and some of its powerful oligarchs, are Jewish, and meanwhile the Bandera group that took power after Maidan were neo-Nazis. How they cooperate or vie for power with each other, I don’t know. It’s a corrupt place with lots of kooks. Not my country and not my war.

  29. Does that mean that the Russian military is Antifa?

  30. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think Putin was talking about these guys (perhaps among others):

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-azov-should-not-be-designated-a-foreign-terrorist-organization/

    The Azov regiment that is, not the Atlantic Council.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Mr. Anon

    Sounds like the "neo nazi" element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.

    But it's funny, in a grim way: the author is actually arguing the Ukrainian nazis should not be tarred by any association with our "domestic terrorists".

    Screw him.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  31. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Yep. Perfect setup for “let’s you and him fight.”

  32. @Alfa158
    Martha Radditz, David Muir’s magnificent hairdo, and their retired military consultants were just on with a special bulletin that Russian armored columns are racing across Ukraine, cruise missile strikes are in progress, and Martha in Kiev can hear the explosions from the air strikes and artillery.
    How come I can’t find this breaking news anywhere else?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anon, @Jack D

    Norah O’Donnell was on CBS for about 15 minutes. Charlie D’Agata in Kiev – sorry, Kyiv – heard a whooshing sound behind him and ducked for cover, but fortunately he managed to avoid getting blown up.

    David Martin, the Pentagon correspondent, looked half-dead. He needs to retire.

    All in all, I was pretty disappointed with the TV coverage of the launch of World War III. I thought we’d see a lot more explosions. No kiss kiss, no bang bang – who cares?

    See, when America wants to intervene in another country’s affairs, we blow the everloving f**k out of the capital city. This is how you launch a war:

    • Replies: @clifford brown
    @Stan Adams

    ABC News spent most of an hour showing a static map of Ukraine as if television never went beyond 1965. The American media propaganda is not nearly as impressive in orchestrating war coverage unless they have about six months lead time. Sky News out of the UK not only had journalists on the ground, but engaging edited footage.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  33. So is this like Crimean War II? Or America’s Next Vietnam?

    Asking for the history books.

  34. Instead of Nazi’s, Putin should have declared war on White Nationalists.

  35. • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Dr. X

    DrX, Thank you for the link. I posted this before...seriously, "honk honk" literally means "Heil Hitler." This woman is Canada's Rep. Hank Johnson.


  36. Putin should not forget about the Soup Nazis. Hearing “No soup for you!” can really trigger.

  37. I am sure that the Ukrainian soldiers will fight like crazy. After all, what young Ukrainian wouldn’t want to die for Zelensky? The guy is hilarious.

    • Replies: @bispora
    @EddieSpaghetti

    You are right- a heroic Ukrainian pilot, proving Zelensky's claim that they will not sit idly by, landed his Su27 fighter at Bacau airport and surrendered...
    https://www.mapn.ro/cpresa/17283_avion-militar-ucrainean,-interceptat-si-aterizat-la-bacau

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

  38. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Excellent analysis. What I find so striking about Biden’s cabinet is its sub-mediocre quality. Is there a single confidence-inspiring figure among them? His Transportation Secretary was nowhere to be found when the backlog at the ports became front-page news–turns out he was on paternity leave, which hadn’t been previously reported. Maybe Mayor Pete thought he had one of those no-show jobs. He didn’t get around to visiting Long Beach and LA for months and then it was only to pose for pictures and make statements. Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Harry Baldwin

    I believe Secty Peter Butthead is breast feeding the baby. And will continue to do so Till the baby is 4 years old. Poor kid. The Secty of Transportation should be someone whose worked in transportation. Preferably some one who’s had a long career working in the US Dept of transportation. Not a small town Mayor. I guess he’s the token goy

    , @Sean
    @Harry Baldwin


    https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously?utm_source=url Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin The two themes that let the Blob carry the day [...]

    Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:

    "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests"
     
    Burns added that it was “hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership—a move that, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    , @Old Prude
    @Harry Baldwin

    " Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?"

    Is this a trick question?

    Putin and Xi both have the measure of the Biden administration.

    Everything Biden's people believe is wrong, and some of it is insane. Self-harming lunatics.

  39. Putin is fixin to kick some ass. I approve. So much so that I have broken out the ceremonial whisky.

  40. @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    I think Putin was talking about these guys (perhaps among others):

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-azov-should-not-be-designated-a-foreign-terrorist-organization/

    The Azov regiment that is, not the Atlantic Council.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    Sounds like the “neo nazi” element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.

    But it’s funny, in a grim way: the author is actually arguing the Ukrainian nazis should not be tarred by any association with our “domestic terrorists”.

    Screw him.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Dennis Dale


    Sounds like the “neo nazi” element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.
     
    From the limited amount I've read about them (and that is limited because, I really don't care about the Ukraine), the Azov regiment (they used to be a battalion, but they got bigger) were used by the current government of Ukraine to fight the Russian separatists in the Donbass region. They are now officially part of the Ukrainian National Guard. So they're essentially cannon fodder.

    There are also, I believe, right-wing political elements that unofficially support the current government. Remember that Victoria Nuland, when she was picking the democratic government for the free democratic republic of Ukraine, said that she wanted certain people on "the outside".

    Replies: @Bill

  41. @zacie
    @Alden

    And all the online advertising I’ve seen for it seems to be hiding the fact that they cast a blackpipo as the suitor.

    Replies: @Alden

    I saw the trailer. The black unknown is not even near good looking. With untended messy hair. The whole point of the story is that Christian was extremely good looking. I hope no one goes to see it. And a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men. Boxing bull fighting tennis fighting lots of activities including sword fighting the longer the arms the more advantage. Bull fighter scouts look for kids with long arms. Same for fencing baseball lots of things.

    They were all real people. Cyrano was gay had syphilis of the anus. And really did have a very large nose for which he was teased as a kid. Write some books. Experimented with rockets. The real Madeline was one of the learned ladies. Interested in fine language and the Academy that wrote dictionaries and codified the rules of grammar. And elevating the tail end of rough medieval society into good manners fine cooking etc.

    Boycott MGM

    • Replies: @Adept
    @Alden


    a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men.
     
    This is perverse. As you say, fencing and HEMA are, like basketball and boxing, sports where height imparts a tremendous advantage -- to such an extent that it's almost impossible to be a good duelist, to say nothing of "the best," unless you are at least somewhat taller than average. Fencing a short man is practically indistinguishable from fencing a woman. Fencing a dwarf is a joke in very poor taste.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Alden

    They're producing a MacBeth on Broadway soon. Daniel Craig as MacBeth. Not my idea of MacBeth but he's a solid British actor so should be interesting. Who's his lady?

    Ruth Negga.

    To be fair you can't really tell she's black from a distance but the reason they cast her is because she's black, no other.

    If you're white and want classical training, forget about it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden

    I went to see Licorice Pizza the latest film by Paul Thomas Anderson. If you like his movies, and I do, you will like it too. It's male star is Cooper Hoffman, son of the late and gone too soon Philip Seymour Hoffman.

    They showed the trailer for Cyrano. The dwarf is Peter Dinklage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dinklage) who had one of the juiciest roles in Game of Thrones as Tyrion Lannister. Favorite quote: "I drink, and I know things".

    The friend Christian is the interchangeable nappy headed black guy seen on half the commercials on TV as a brain surgeon, a financial advisor, some white chick's husband, giving advice to some retarded white guy, und so weiter.

  42. The Right needs to stop the Boomer Con knee jerk of calling every legitimate, effective act of government “nazi”. That’s why “conservatives” only support failure; success = nazi.

    “Enough from the Clown!” Up Schmitt’s Creek with Justin Trudeau
    https://counter-currents.com/2022/02/enough-from-the-clown/

  43. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    Excellent analysis. What I find so striking about Biden's cabinet is its sub-mediocre quality. Is there a single confidence-inspiring figure among them? His Transportation Secretary was nowhere to be found when the backlog at the ports became front-page news--turns out he was on paternity leave, which hadn't been previously reported. Maybe Mayor Pete thought he had one of those no-show jobs. He didn't get around to visiting Long Beach and LA for months and then it was only to pose for pictures and make statements. Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean, @Old Prude

    I believe Secty Peter Butthead is breast feeding the baby. And will continue to do so Till the baby is 4 years old. Poor kid. The Secty of Transportation should be someone whose worked in transportation. Preferably some one who’s had a long career working in the US Dept of transportation. Not a small town Mayor. I guess he’s the token goy

  44. Putin trolling the woke by proclaiming he’s fighting Nazis also serves the purpose of propagandizing to his own troops. Russians have long been proud of their win over Germany in WW2 and understand they were far and away the real deciding factor in winning. And in that war Ukranians did ally with Germany, because Ukraine wanted to kick out the Soviets, it historically rings true.

    In other words, Putin is both trolling us and instilling morale in his own people. Win-win on that front.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @R.G. Camara

    "Anti-fascism" in Russian is dogwhistle for "anti-global government". So really Putin's saying they will personally target any politicians with ties to Western governments.

    This much is obvious to any Russian or Ukrainian.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Volodymyr Zelensky is a Russian speaker and Jewish. But fantastic as it seems, his government, including the intelligence service, is actually dominated by neither identity, but rather former players in his TV jester troupe whose own preferment stems from their personal loyalty to him, and though media and tech savvy they are totally inexperienced in international affairs. Ukraine has delivered its destiny into the hands of professional clowns, and Putin is about to bring down the curtain on this comedy

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave, Brás Cubas
  46. America was only bluffing. Something something gas pipeline, probably.

    Did Russia just call their bluff? Or will America go all Putler “Trump” Trudeau, to avoid the embarrassment of backing down?

    Either way turns out popcorn futures are in the money.

  47. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be

    Was he ever?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Lurker

    With Biden as with Oakland, "There's no there there."

  48. @Mr. Anon
    If you want a sample of what Democrats think, read a few of these tweets. They are delusional.

    https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1496348077640364035

    Mind you, a lot of Republicans are too, but they aren't as crazy about it.

    Replies: @Alden, @Charon

    Actually named Redhead. Why not change it to Roth Ross Rossi Go back to the old country.

  49. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration’s behalf

    We shouldn’t see them as discrete entities. They are part of the same media-political complex. The serve the same agenda.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  50. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Read more about it, Steve.

    From Haaretz in 2018:

    “A group of more than 40 human rights activists have filed a petition with the High Court of Justice, demanding the cessation of Israeli arms exports to Ukraine.

    “They argue that these weapons serve forces that openly espouse a neo-Nazi ideology and cite evidence that the right-wing Azov militia, whose members are part of Ukraine’s armed forces, and are supported by the country’s ministry of internal affairs, is using these weapons.”

    “Nevertheless, this is not the first time in which the defense establishment is arming forces that embrace a national socialist ideology.”

    In the past, Israel has armed anti-Semitic regimes, such as the generals’ regime in Argentina, which murdered thousands of Jews in camps while its soldiers stood in watchtowers guarding the abducted prisoners with their Uzi submachine guns.

    According to a freedom of information petition to Israel’s defense ministry from last January (Hebrew: read in full here), Israel also armed Bolivia’s military regimes, knowing that Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie was part of the regime. Legal documents used to convict the head of the junta also showed that Barbie’s death squads used Israeli Uzis.”

    “In the city of Dnepropetrovsk in eastern Ukraine there is a military training school. Its website indicates that training there is provided former IDF officers and that its instructors were trained by Israelis.”

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

  51. I know from the MSM and no end of commenters online that Biden, Trudeau, Trump, Putin and Boris are nazis. I know that BLM and antifa are nazis, I know that 6th Jan MAGA types are nazis.

    It is incredible that all these nazis can’t just sort everything out amongst themselves.

  52. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    Excellent analysis. What I find so striking about Biden's cabinet is its sub-mediocre quality. Is there a single confidence-inspiring figure among them? His Transportation Secretary was nowhere to be found when the backlog at the ports became front-page news--turns out he was on paternity leave, which hadn't been previously reported. Maybe Mayor Pete thought he had one of those no-show jobs. He didn't get around to visiting Long Beach and LA for months and then it was only to pose for pictures and make statements. Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean, @Old Prude

    https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously?utm_source=url Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin The two themes that let the Blob carry the day […]

    Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:

    “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests”

    Burns added that it was “hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership—a move that, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Sean

    Sean--was over my comment limit last night, but wanted to say "thanks" for the link.

    Recommend to others. Worth reading for a reasonable take, and insight into what more level-headed people on the American diplomatic side. To bad this guy Burns didn't have Biden's ear.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Alden
    @Sean

    Thanks for the link.

  53. @Alden
    OT. Another classic movie’s been remade with a black actor playing a real White person Christian de Neuvillett. From the Cyrano de Bergerac story. . And of course one of the 3 major characters Christian is of course an ugly black actor. It’s a true story about real people . The author Rostand switched the ages and relationships. Cyrano was a younger cousin of Madeline. She and Christian had been married for years before he came to Paris. Made by MGM. Boycott.

    Replies: @zacie, @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Jim Don Bob

    OT Reply: White supremacist Gary Brooker MBE, singer, pianist and composer of Procol Harum’s “The Unbearable Whiteness of Shades of Pale” is dead at 76.

  54. @newrouter
    Please update us on what David French is saying.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Mike_from_SGV, @MEH 0910

    “The conservative case for sending red-state boys to die in war while I watch from a safe distance”.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer, Kronos
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Mike_from_SGV

    That sounds about right.

  55. @Lurker
    @anon


    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be
     
    Was he ever?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    With Biden as with Oakland, “There’s no there there.”

  56. Don’t give the Chinese ideas. We should have supported Chiang Kai-shek, but communist infiltration ensured we didn’t. They’ll be calling him a Nazi soon enough.

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-heroes/images/4/46/Chiang_Kai-shek.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200331213728

    • Replies: @Hbd investor
    @Nathan

    We did offer to help Chiang Kai shek

    We wanted him to divide china in half, south china vs north china one half for himself and the other half for mao in exchange the US would send boots on the ground

    The US held back aid hoping that Chiang would capitulate but Chiang would rather lose than have a divided china

    The reality is that is Chiang won, China would still be our enemy, just like China was our enemy before WW2

    The cold War was always about dismembering large rival states and not actually about communism vs capitalism

    The US sought to use capitalism vs communism to split states in half like Vietnam, Korea etc...

  57. @Anon7
    Hey, here’s an invasion story for you:

    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

    “The 46.6 million immigrants (legal and illegal) in the country in January 2022 is the largest number recorded in any government survey or decennial census going back to 1850,” the CIS says in a report released on February 23.

    Breitbart
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Sick 'n Tired

    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Yep. That’s the invasion story that actually matters for Americans.

    ~~

    If there’s a simple common cause of conflict in the modern world it would have to be “parasitism”.

    Some people(s) just will not let other people(s) alone to do their own thing: Live according to their own norms and culture; associate with whom they want; don’t associate with whom they don’t want. Some subset of the human species just insists on glomming on to other people’s stuff and/or ordering them to behave in this or that manner.

    The Russia/Ukraine thing could be quickly resolved by people of good will be Russia leaving Ukrainians who like being Ukrainian to do their own thing. And Ukrainians who like being Russian to do their own thing–including becoming part of Russia.

    The “race problem” in the US likewise could be sorted by separation. Blacks who do not want to live by traditional white public norms, creating their own nation. All the people who love “diversity” and want to boss everyone’s interactions according to DIE diktat going off to form their Rainbow nation. And Americans who actually like being American forming up America 2.0.

    The problem as always is that people enjoying their own organic communities, associating only voluntary with others and governing themselves as they see fit … just doesn’t suit the desires of parasitic looters trying to glom on.

    • Agree: ben tillman, Lurker
    • Replies: @S
    @AnotherDad


    The problem as always is that people enjoying their own organic communities, associating only voluntary with others and governing themselves as they see fit … just doesn’t suit the desires of parasitic looters trying to glom on.
     
    You make too much sense.

    Back in olden times, backwards as many were not knowing how to deal properly with wildlife, and not yet having developed a live and let live attitude towards them by simply leaving them be in their natural environment, there were plenty of those who thought simply slaughtering all creatures, great and small, was the way to 'make things safe' for mankind.

    The only good animal is a dead animal, or, so they thought.

    Short of that, maybe allow a very few of these poor creatures to safely 'live' caged up in a barren, cold, concrete and steel barred zoo, where they could 'safely' be allowed to exist, frantically spending their days pacing back and forth in their prison until they die, might be tolerated.

    Happily, many today are moving away from all that, and don't do that anymore to wildlife.

    Unfortunately, all too many today want to treat the peoples of the world the same way wildlife was once treated. To make mankind safe, oxymoronically, the peoples of the world in general must be slaughtered/genocided.

    The only good people is a dead people, or, so they think.

    Short of that, keeping the peoples of the world imprisoned 'safely' behind the steel bars and barren cold concrete of the 'woke' so called 'progressive' multi-cult zoo, where they might be allowed to exist, but not to live freely in reality or substance, seems to be an alternative that is being pushed for.

    Of course, the obvious answer is to work within the reality that the various unique peoples of the world, as part of an extended collective self, do indeed exist, and have the right to freely exist. To work towards finding ways that the peoples of the world get along better, based upon how individuals do. To live and to let live.

    If this madness isn't stopped in regards to the peoples of the world and their right to freely exist, the next step is a full blown Orwellian police state to make the world 'safe' from the 'danger' of the individual.


    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s0yqe3ZxWyE/XYODf1-Uh8I/AAAAAAAAFF4/u9tF-Ler8LknYQpyhRTgTmBSXO_Ra7_DQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1.jpg
  58. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

  59. @Sam Haysom
    Wait I thought this was about supplanting the Leninist project with a new Putinist framework. You mean to tell me when Putin repeatedly cried about the fall of the Soviet Union it wasn’t because he actually hated the Soviet Union.

    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union. I wonder if the new eastern Ukrainian government has a brutha in it.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Sam Haysom wrote:

    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union.

    Jack Kennedy would not tolerate Russian nukes in Cuba (although, under international law, the Cubans had a right to ally with anyone they wished).

    Putin would not allow a US puppet regime in Kiev that kept wanting to join NATO.

    Not “Russian woke”; just geopolitical realities.

    A lot of people are going to die because of the stupidity of the Biden regime.

    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn’t make a sensible deal.

    Now people will die.

    I pointed out a couple days ago here that Russians really are fond of Odessa. Russian marines have now landed in Odessa.

    I predict that the post-war settlement involves a substantial expansion of the Russian Black Sea coast.

    I just hope Putin realizes that he does not want or need Kiev: he should put his own puppet regime in place (to replace Vicky Nuland’s puppet regime) and let Kiev pretend to rule what is left of Ukraine.

    As Schiller said, “Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave


    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn’t make a sensible deal.
     
    Exactly.

    Putin is--unfortunately--some sort of imperialist/Soviet nostalgist, who gets all weepy at the "catastrophe" of the breakup of the USSR. However i very much doubt most actual Russians feel that way. I'd bet if you surveyed the Russian Muscovites they'd be pretty happy if say Chechnya was not part of Russia and all the Chechens had to pack their bags and head home.

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a "no NATO" security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.


    But no. That violates the core principle of minoritarianism that it's a high crime if people are sorted into their natural nations and then left alone. That's ... Nazi stuff!

    Dicking with Russia over the sanctity of Ukraine's current borders while letting diversity illegally invade the US border ... that's "morality".

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @PhysicistDave
    @PhysicistDave

    The report of Russian marines landing in Odessa now seems to be an error reported in Western media (although there do seem to have been missile attacks near Odessa).

    Or maybe the report was just premature.

  60. @JimDandy
    The "Nazis" Putin is taking about are a lot more Nazi than the "Nazis" Frum is talking about.

    "Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police, Schutzmannschaft, in the German military, and serving as concentration camp guards. Nationalists in western Ukraine were among the most enthusiastic and hoped that their efforts would enable them to re-establish an independent state later on.... on the eve of Operation' Barbarossa, as many as 4000 Ukrainians, operating under Wehrmacht orders, sought to cause disruption behind Soviet lines. After the capture of Lviv, a highly-contentious and strategically-important city with a significant Ukrainian minority, OUN leaders proclaimed a new Ukrainian State on June 30, 1941 and simultaneously encouraged loyalty to the new regime in the hope that they would be supported by the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Fluesterwitz, @Exile, @William Badwhite

    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways …

    As quite reasonably so.

    They’d been treated poorly by the Commies–including a starved in a massive famine–and probably thought “let’s get out from under those assholes!” (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i’ve mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of “nationalism” but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought “these Germans can’t be any worse than the commies”.)

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, JMcG
    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with almost all of your comment, but…


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.
     
    This isn’t quite true. Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators. It is as with the French - most collaborated with the (erstwhile) winner, but all were “Resistance all along” after the war.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.

     

    Russia
    Post-Russian Civil War, White Russians fought on the side of Japan against the Reds. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo_Imperial_Army#Asano_Brigade)

    Japanese annexation of Manchuria was in part a reaction to Soviets having essentially done the same to Mongolia, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Revolution_of_1921)

    Manchuria
    Manchukuo was a pretty real country, of having GDP per capita on par with 19th CE US. The last Manchu Qing emperor Aisin-Gioro Puyi flied to Kwantung Army after his ancestor Qianlong Emperor's mausoleum was looted by Han warlord Sun Dianying. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looting_of_the_Eastern_Mausoleum)

    There's a precedent for this in 13th CE, when the last Mongol Yuan Emperor, after getting thrown out of Beijing by Han rebel Zhu Yuanzhang, flied north to the steppes but still kept a Northern Yuan polity for a couple of centuries.

    China (south of Great Wall)
    After the death of Sun Yat-sen, the head of KMT was thought to be equally Chiang Kai-shek, and Wang Jingwei. In many ways Wang was considered a more righteous character than Chiang (motto: never hesitate to cooperate with an enemy or betray a friend).
    https://imgur.com/irCqXRQ
    The Greater East Asia Conference in November 1943, participants left to right: Ba Maw, Zhang Jinghui, Wang Jingwei, Hideki Tojo, Wan Waithayakon, José P. Laurel, and Subhas Chandra Bose

    Wang considered cooperating with the Japanese to be no worse than Chiang was with Anglos and Mao was with Soviets.

    Both Germany and Japan wanted to cooperate with Chiang against Soviets and then nascent CPC. But Chiang's statesmanship was, in correctly perceiving that--

    1. The Axis would lose to the Anglos in the long run,

    2. The Japanese cannot be relied upon to deal with-- because they had a dysfunctional leadership where the civilian government had little control over the Kwantung Army, and that they would fail to align their strategic and tactical goals.
    , @Johann Ricke
    @AnotherDad


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.
     
    Future leaders of Burma, Indonesia, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan all worked for Imperial Japan - Aung San, Ne Win, Sukarno, Suharto, Lee Kuan Yew, Park Chung-hee and Lee Teng-hui. And these were just the big names.
    , @nebulafox
    @AnotherDad

    Stalin had intentionally starved millions of people to death, and the German invasion from WWI was within living memory. I think the Ukrainians can be forgiven for not thinking the Nazis could possibly be worse than what they just lived through.

    It was the Baltic states where the experience of Soviet occupation *really* radicalized people, though. Ukraine was used to living under totalitarian government by 1939. They weren't. Understanding this is crucial if you want to get why Riga exploded in 1941. People didn't need much encouragement from the Germans to go after ethnic Russians and Jews.

  61. @Dennis Dale
    @Mr. Anon

    Sounds like the "neo nazi" element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.

    But it's funny, in a grim way: the author is actually arguing the Ukrainian nazis should not be tarred by any association with our "domestic terrorists".

    Screw him.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Sounds like the “neo nazi” element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.

    From the limited amount I’ve read about them (and that is limited because, I really don’t care about the Ukraine), the Azov regiment (they used to be a battalion, but they got bigger) were used by the current government of Ukraine to fight the Russian separatists in the Donbass region. They are now officially part of the Ukrainian National Guard. So they’re essentially cannon fodder.

    There are also, I believe, right-wing political elements that unofficially support the current government. Remember that Victoria Nuland, when she was picking the democratic government for the free democratic republic of Ukraine, said that she wanted certain people on “the outside”.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Mr. Anon

    Back in 2014, there were actual Nazis in the Ukrainian government at ministerial level. They were there at the start because Nazi street fighters were necessary to overthrow the government. The noodle-armed hipsters Soros provided were not up to the task. The Nazis were removed over time since their parties did so poorly in the elections. Actually, who knows whether they actually did poorly, but they did poorly in the reported results, anyway.

  62. @Alfa158
    Martha Radditz, David Muir’s magnificent hairdo, and their retired military consultants were just on with a special bulletin that Russian armored columns are racing across Ukraine, cruise missile strikes are in progress, and Martha in Kiev can hear the explosions from the air strikes and artillery.
    How come I can’t find this breaking news anywhere else?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anon, @Jack D

    You should know why already. Turn on RT for some actual news.
    (And ignore this piece, and much of this thread, for some intelligent commentary).

  63. @Alden
    OT. Another classic movie’s been remade with a black actor playing a real White person Christian de Neuvillett. From the Cyrano de Bergerac story. . And of course one of the 3 major characters Christian is of course an ugly black actor. It’s a true story about real people . The author Rostand switched the ages and relationships. Cyrano was a younger cousin of Madeline. She and Christian had been married for years before he came to Paris. Made by MGM. Boycott.

    Replies: @zacie, @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Jim Don Bob

    I didn’t realise that was a true story. Your comment is the first I’ve seen mention the fact in relation to this film, so I suppose that’s a battle that has been won now, and any white historical figures can and should be black.

  64. @Cato
    @Ebony Obelisk


    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict
     
    Me too. Deeply regret. Sorry, Joe. And my kids: they are all in college, so don't even think about it.

    Replies: @neutral

    There is no way I can see a military draft in America being feasible, even if they have endless propaganda about how this is a global crusade for LGXYZ and BLM, I cannot see how there will be any enthusiasm to die for what is really just neocons/neoliberals.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @neutral

    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  65. @Stan Adams
    @Alfa158

    Norah O'Donnell was on CBS for about 15 minutes. Charlie D'Agata in Kiev - sorry, Kyiv - heard a whooshing sound behind him and ducked for cover, but fortunately he managed to avoid getting blown up.

    David Martin, the Pentagon correspondent, looked half-dead. He needs to retire.

    All in all, I was pretty disappointed with the TV coverage of the launch of World War III. I thought we'd see a lot more explosions. No kiss kiss, no bang bang - who cares?

    See, when America wants to intervene in another country's affairs, we blow the everloving f**k out of the capital city. This is how you launch a war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Smjn9wou8

    Replies: @clifford brown

    ABC News spent most of an hour showing a static map of Ukraine as if television never went beyond 1965. The American media propaganda is not nearly as impressive in orchestrating war coverage unless they have about six months lead time. Sky News out of the UK not only had journalists on the ground, but engaging edited footage.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @clifford brown

    News organizations had dozens of reporters working on the fake Bubba Wallace NASCAR noose story, yet ABC has one elderly Brit and the even more elderly Martha Raddatz in Kiev. It's not an important story like trans rights or BLM.

    Replies: @profnasty, @J.Ross

  66. @PhysicistDave
    @Sam Haysom

    Sam Haysom wrote:


    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union.
     
    Jack Kennedy would not tolerate Russian nukes in Cuba (although, under international law, the Cubans had a right to ally with anyone they wished).

    Putin would not allow a US puppet regime in Kiev that kept wanting to join NATO.

    Not "Russian woke"; just geopolitical realities.

    A lot of people are going to die because of the stupidity of the Biden regime.

    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn't make a sensible deal.

    Now people will die.

    I pointed out a couple days ago here that Russians really are fond of Odessa. Russian marines have now landed in Odessa.

    I predict that the post-war settlement involves a substantial expansion of the Russian Black Sea coast.

    I just hope Putin realizes that he does not want or need Kiev: he should put his own puppet regime in place (to replace Vicky Nuland's puppet regime) and let Kiev pretend to rule what is left of Ukraine.

    As Schiller said, “Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.”

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @PhysicistDave

    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn’t make a sensible deal.

    Exactly.

    Putin is–unfortunately–some sort of imperialist/Soviet nostalgist, who gets all weepy at the “catastrophe” of the breakup of the USSR. However i very much doubt most actual Russians feel that way. I’d bet if you surveyed the Russian Muscovites they’d be pretty happy if say Chechnya was not part of Russia and all the Chechens had to pack their bags and head home.

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a “no NATO” security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.

    But no. That violates the core principle of minoritarianism that it’s a high crime if people are sorted into their natural nations and then left alone. That’s … Nazi stuff!

    Dicking with Russia over the sanctity of Ukraine’s current borders while letting diversity illegally invade the US border … that’s “morality”.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a “no NATO” security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.

    I'm sure your insight is impeccable on this point.

    Replies: @Sean

  67. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Unfortunately, a lot of otherwise sane, intelligent Americans reflexively support America in any international conflict and just as reflexively see Putin as the type of one-dimensional red villain that populated 1980’s movies like Red Dawn and Rocky IV.

    • Agree: Greta Handel
  68. Trudeau accuses Conservative MPs of standing with ‘people who wave swastikas’

    Meanwhile, elsewhere in Ontario…

    As the Gear Daddies said, can’t have nothin’ nice:

    https://www.change.org/p/everyone-change-swastika-ontario

    • Thanks: Alden
  69. @rebel yell
    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country. I believe they had a think tank named after Goebbels. Sounds pretty Nazi to me.
    At any rate, Ukrainians can be Nazis or freedom fighters, and Russia can be defending their own borders or invading someone else's, however you choose to interpret it. It is still NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. The only thing we will ever get out of our global hegemony is more immigrants, more wasted tax dollars, more propaganda, more restrictions on our civil liberties, more American oligarchs controlling our politics, and did I mention, more immigrants?
    Stop thinking about the Eurasian chessboard. Turn your back and walk away. We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    You misspelled had.

    • LOL: rebel yell
  70. @Mr. Anon
    If you want a sample of what Democrats think, read a few of these tweets. They are delusional.

    https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1496348077640364035

    Mind you, a lot of Republicans are too, but they aren't as crazy about it.

    Replies: @Alden, @Charon

    Taking Russia’s side in a conflict with America & the West

    Hear that? Russia is attacking “America & the West.” How shall we respond, FWP?

  71. The Peacekeeping mission seems to be the right start to reducing tensions and paving the way towards a sensible solution.

    No wonder the War Party is in full blown hysteria. Peace and stability is not the outcome the war party wants.

  72. @rebel yell
    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country. I believe they had a think tank named after Goebbels. Sounds pretty Nazi to me.
    At any rate, Ukrainians can be Nazis or freedom fighters, and Russia can be defending their own borders or invading someone else's, however you choose to interpret it. It is still NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. The only thing we will ever get out of our global hegemony is more immigrants, more wasted tax dollars, more propaganda, more restrictions on our civil liberties, more American oligarchs controlling our politics, and did I mention, more immigrants?
    Stop thinking about the Eurasian chessboard. Turn your back and walk away. We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in…

    “…and you wouldn’t want to see anything happen to it, would you?”

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Eastern Promises?

  73. @Mike_from_SGV
    @newrouter

    "The conservative case for sending red-state boys to die in war while I watch from a safe distance".

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    That sounds about right.

  74. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    In a way, it does. Many “neo-nazis” in the US were Jewish or Jewish funded too. It’s a useful boogeyman.

    Anyway, perhaps Steve should focus on pronouns and capitalizations and golf, and leave foreign affairs to others who understand the issue better? His flippant tone is not suited to serious analysis.

    Not that I know much better. I just like Putin, as opposed to Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, Biden etc. At least he’s doing things for Russians and is loved by Russians in his nation and abroad. Can’t say the same of any current Western leaders.

    • Replies: @Somnambule
    @Dumbo


    Anyway, perhaps Steve should focus on pronouns and capitalizations and golf and leave foreign affairs to others who understand the issue better? His flippant tone is not suited to serious analysis.
     
    There is so much more to Mr. Sailor than grammar and golf. Still, he sometimes leaves his formidable insight at the water's edge. Example: decades ago, he loved, loved Margaret Thatcher - he should have sided with Enoch Powel instead and denounce that silly woman.
    Hitlerism is a subset of Naziism, I think. During his war in the East, A.H. took out of the breeding population millions of fellow Aryans - together with the tainted "Asiatics" - let God sort them out. Some may have been near-perfect specimens (their skulls and bones measured with a caliper), but they were loyal to their country and did not even speak German. And, of course, Adolf sacrificed his guys without mercy.
    Vladimir Putin will not be able to denazify Galicia (an undeservedly unlucky and unhappy territory). That said, and check it out, Mr. Sailor, too many Hitlerites hail from there, and president Ze does not control them.
  75. Trump shows his instinctive self and whose side he is on. It is not smart and it is not pretty.

    I voted for him twice and I still do not understand what is wrong with him. I just know I do not want to know. How anybody can have that biggest mouth around them on a constant basis is just beyond me:

    “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius,”‘ Trump said. ‘Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine – Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545563/Trump-doubles-calling-Putin-smart-launches-special-military-operation.html#article-10545563

    • Agree: Sam Malone
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @notsaying

    notsaying wrote:


    “This is genius,”‘ Trump said. ‘Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine – Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.’
     
    Admittedly, not a politically wise statement for Trump to make, but it may turn out to be true: i.e., in terms both of domestic Russian politics and geopolitical grand strategy, this may well be a real winner for Putin.

    (No, I am not praising Putin's actions: I would have preferred for the West to work out a diplomatic resolution, which is what I suspect Trump would have done.)
    , @James J O'Meara
    @notsaying

    American "politics" is people arguing to the death over who sounds more retarded, Biden or Trump.

    “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius,”‘ Trump said.

  76. FoxNews just aired an interview with retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis who made the same point a number of us here have been making: the ruling elite in the West has really, really screwed up how they have dealt with Russia in the last three decades.

    Peter Htichens has a column up on The Daily Mail making the same point.

    In coming days, we are going to be deluged with a flood of propaganda from the US regime claiming that those of us who point out how the Western ruling elites have screwed this up are somehow secret tools of Putin.

    We’re not. We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Russian troops have crossed the Belorussian border, apparently heading for Kiev. The residents of Kiev are fleeing the city. Russia seems to have stopped the bombardment around Kiev, now that they have taken out local military assets and command and control capabilities, and are saying that they have no desire to attack civilian populations.

    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.

    Now, anyone want to bet on how soon Zelensky — the Stephen Colbert of the Ukraine — flees the country?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he's not located in any western capital.

    Replies: @Sean, @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @JonJon

    , @Mr Mox
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Agree! But at least we Europeans now know who run our foreign policy. The image of an immense diplomatic failure will linger long after our current crop of Churchill-wannabees have faded away.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @PhysicistDave


    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.
     
    I hope Putin takes out a whole lot of journo scum, just the the USNATOIsrael routine does "by accident". It would be good to see some Western journos take rockets up the wazoo, maybe on live feeds.
  77. @notsaying
    Trump shows his instinctive self and whose side he is on. It is not smart and it is not pretty.

    I voted for him twice and I still do not understand what is wrong with him. I just know I do not want to know. How anybody can have that biggest mouth around them on a constant basis is just beyond me:

    "I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, "This is genius,"' Trump said. 'Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine - of Ukraine - Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful.'


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545563/Trump-doubles-calling-Putin-smart-launches-special-military-operation.html#article-10545563

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @James J O'Meara

    notsaying wrote:

    “This is genius,”‘ Trump said. ‘Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine – Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.’

    Admittedly, not a politically wise statement for Trump to make, but it may turn out to be true: i.e., in terms both of domestic Russian politics and geopolitical grand strategy, this may well be a real winner for Putin.

    (No, I am not praising Putin’s actions: I would have preferred for the West to work out a diplomatic resolution, which is what I suspect Trump would have done.)

  78. Sometimes it feels like these things are planned in advance and everyone has already agreed to what’s going to happen.
    Putin: Hello, Joe? When is the pandemic ending, again?
    Joe’s intern: After the Olympics.
    Putin: Ok, well we’re gonna take a few more chunks of Ukraine around that time.
    Intern: Good to know; we’ll give the public a few weeks to prime them.
    Putin: Give my regards to the President.
    Intern: He doesn’t even remember who you are.

    • Thanks: Great White
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Percival

    Intern: He doesn’t even remember who you are.

    "...the Russian guy, the guy with the shirt, Pootie Tang, man. He's a bad dude. We got to come together, man, get this guy."

    https://news.grabien.com/story-my-fellow-jamaicans-comedian-kyle-dunnigans-hilarious-biden

  79. But Hindus are Aryans, right? So guilty!

  80. @EddieSpaghetti
    I am sure that the Ukrainian soldiers will fight like crazy. After all, what young Ukrainian wouldn't want to die for Zelensky? The guy is hilarious.

    Replies: @bispora

    You are right- a heroic Ukrainian pilot, proving Zelensky’s claim that they will not sit idly by, landed his Su27 fighter at Bacau airport and surrendered…
    https://www.mapn.ro/cpresa/17283_avion-militar-ucrainean,-interceptat-si-aterizat-la-bacau

    • Replies: @EddieSpaghetti
    @bispora

    That pilot is a smart man. He need not be an evolutionary dead end. I hope he has many children.

  81. @R.G. Camara
    Putin trolling the woke by proclaiming he's fighting Nazis also serves the purpose of propagandizing to his own troops. Russians have long been proud of their win over Germany in WW2 and understand they were far and away the real deciding factor in winning. And in that war Ukranians did ally with Germany, because Ukraine wanted to kick out the Soviets, it historically rings true.

    In other words, Putin is both trolling us and instilling morale in his own people. Win-win on that front.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

    “Anti-fascism” in Russian is dogwhistle for “anti-global government”. So really Putin’s saying they will personally target any politicians with ties to Western governments.

    This much is obvious to any Russian or Ukrainian.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
  82. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It’s also worth reflecting on the fact that we spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined. Yet, even if we wanted to fight we don’t have enough ground game to decisely deter and defeat an invasion by Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).

    So remind me again, where did those trillions of spending go? Was it all used on DIE consultants and investigating the causes of White Rage?

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Hypnotoad666


    Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).
     
    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?

    Perhaps rating countries according to "GDP" is not that great. Having a large territory and lots of oil and gas and a nationalistic leader and good weapons seems more important in the long run...

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  83. @Alden
    @zacie

    I saw the trailer. The black unknown is not even near good looking. With untended messy hair. The whole point of the story is that Christian was extremely good looking. I hope no one goes to see it. And a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men. Boxing bull fighting tennis fighting lots of activities including sword fighting the longer the arms the more advantage. Bull fighter scouts look for kids with long arms. Same for fencing baseball lots of things.

    They were all real people. Cyrano was gay had syphilis of the anus. And really did have a very large nose for which he was teased as a kid. Write some books. Experimented with rockets. The real Madeline was one of the learned ladies. Interested in fine language and the Academy that wrote dictionaries and codified the rules of grammar. And elevating the tail end of rough medieval society into good manners fine cooking etc.

    Boycott MGM

    Replies: @Adept, @Paperback Writer, @Jim Don Bob

    a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men.

    This is perverse. As you say, fencing and HEMA are, like basketball and boxing, sports where height imparts a tremendous advantage — to such an extent that it’s almost impossible to be a good duelist, to say nothing of “the best,” unless you are at least somewhat taller than average. Fencing a short man is practically indistinguishable from fencing a woman. Fencing a dwarf is a joke in very poor taste.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Adept

    That actor, Peter Dinklage is a great actor and has a very powerful male presence. When he’s sitting down or not in a full shot with others. But dwarfs have normal bodies just really short legs and arms. Like Hispanic Indians that are mostly Indians. It’s the short legs that make them short. Plus he’s obviously middle aged.

    I hope it’s as much a disaster as the black Anne Boleyn.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

  84. @PiltdownMan

    Putin Declares War on Nazis
     
    I don't know. They both seem like nice people.

    https://i.imgur.com/WjWS7Mb.jpg

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Why is Putin so upset about nazis anyway. I mean what did they ever do to Russia? Oh right . . .

    • Replies: @profnasty
    @Hypnotoad666

    Pretty sure the Russian 'J's started it.

    Oh right.

  85. Millions upon millions upon millions of words, and this guy still can’t say who was the better candidate in 2020. I believe some people would call that amoral. And they would be 100% right.

  86. @PhysicistDave
    FoxNews just aired an interview with retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis who made the same point a number of us here have been making: the ruling elite in the West has really, really screwed up how they have dealt with Russia in the last three decades.

    Peter Htichens has a column up on The Daily Mail making the same point.

    In coming days, we are going to be deluged with a flood of propaganda from the US regime claiming that those of us who point out how the Western ruling elites have screwed this up are somehow secret tools of Putin.

    We're not. We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Russian troops have crossed the Belorussian border, apparently heading for Kiev. The residents of Kiev are fleeing the city. Russia seems to have stopped the bombardment around Kiev, now that they have taken out local military assets and command and control capabilities, and are saying that they have no desire to attack civilian populations.

    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.

    Now, anyone want to bet on how soon Zelensky -- the Stephen Colbert of the Ukraine -- flees the country?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr Mox, @James J O'Meara

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Art Deco

    Be all that Dark Triad, went mad in isolation during lockdown, age related demented paranoia stuff be true of Putin as it may, the question remains: would--could--any Russian leader have acted differently? Putin tried to join Nato you know, this was in 2001 and he was given the runaround with talk of processing his application bureaucratism The current head of the CIA published a book in which he recalled a memo to Bush noting that during his years in the Moscow Embassy never once did he meet any Russian (even liberals sharply critical of Putin) who thought the Ukraine joining Nato was acceptable. Bush ignored that advice and the accompanying conclusion that Russia would make mischief and went ahead with persuading the other members to agree to an announcement Ukraine would join Nato.

    I would also point out that Ukraine joining Nato is supposedly a dead letter because there is a territorial dispute since 2014, but that dispute was one Putin created through the use of military force after Ukraine over through his democratically boy (for the second time it happened in 2004 to the same guy ), and in 2014seemed to be moving towards joining the EU, which is effectively the economic wing of Nato and the carrot for getting countries to join Nato. Hence Putin sponsoring an uprising in the Donbass in 2014 was a stopgap rather that putting an end to the Ukraine in Nato possibility. Ukraine is a Nato 'partner' working towards full membership officially. If it was never going to join now actually, why did Biden not in negotiations offer that; it would be a meaningless concession but Putin would have something to show. Do Biden's advisors actually want to get Ukraine in Nato at some future point? Munich conceded territory to Hitler. Saying that Ukraine would not join Nato was not giving Putin any territory but rather trying to persuade him not to take any.

    Biden and his advisers didn't think Putin would invade. Putin said unless he got some concessions on Ukraine he would take 'military and technical measures'. Refusing to treat with Putin was a discretionary decision by Biden and his idiotic advisors. The people in charge of US foreign policy are liking in the past; Ukraine is not West Germany during the Cold War. Did JFK have agency for 'discretionary decisions 'and psychopathic traits for trying to overthrow the government of Cuba for allying with the USSR? Cuba was a sovereign state. Then he almost started a nuclear war because Cuba hosted US missiles. There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco wrote to me:


    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.
     
    You mean Zelensky?

    He could after all surrender immediately and allow Putin to set up a new puppet regime to replace the US-backed puppet regime.

    Or do you mean Biden, who could, after all, now announce that in exchange for a ceasefire, we will agree that Ukraine will never be in NATO and that the Donbass will be autonomous?

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    But the hypocrisy of Westerners who condemn Putin but do not condemn similar actions by the USA is simply stunning.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    , @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Objectively and obviously wrong.

    , @JonJon
    @Art Deco

    You can tell it isn't being directed from Washington because the war isn't being fought against civilians.

  87. @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave


    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn’t make a sensible deal.
     
    Exactly.

    Putin is--unfortunately--some sort of imperialist/Soviet nostalgist, who gets all weepy at the "catastrophe" of the breakup of the USSR. However i very much doubt most actual Russians feel that way. I'd bet if you surveyed the Russian Muscovites they'd be pretty happy if say Chechnya was not part of Russia and all the Chechens had to pack their bags and head home.

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a "no NATO" security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.


    But no. That violates the core principle of minoritarianism that it's a high crime if people are sorted into their natural nations and then left alone. That's ... Nazi stuff!

    Dicking with Russia over the sanctity of Ukraine's current borders while letting diversity illegally invade the US border ... that's "morality".

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a “no NATO” security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.

    I’m sure your insight is impeccable on this point.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Art Deco

    Someone who has a little expertise.

    https://youtu.be/qsCX4DCJ1uQ?t=1930

    He says war follows a power law, and big wars are getting more common. War within an international order are getting less common while wars between international orders are more common, and destructive. He also says wars have a far greater escalatory tendency than is generally realized.

    Stephen Walt has a article called The West Is Sleepwalking Into War in Ukraine


    It’s not easy to make sense of how the United States and Europe are responding to Russia’s aggression.
     
  88. @JimDandy
    The "Nazis" Putin is taking about are a lot more Nazi than the "Nazis" Frum is talking about.

    "Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police, Schutzmannschaft, in the German military, and serving as concentration camp guards. Nationalists in western Ukraine were among the most enthusiastic and hoped that their efforts would enable them to re-establish an independent state later on.... on the eve of Operation' Barbarossa, as many as 4000 Ukrainians, operating under Wehrmacht orders, sought to cause disruption behind Soviet lines. After the capture of Lviv, a highly-contentious and strategically-important city with a significant Ukrainian minority, OUN leaders proclaimed a new Ukrainian State on June 30, 1941 and simultaneously encouraged loyalty to the new regime in the hope that they would be supported by the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Fluesterwitz, @Exile, @William Badwhite

    Between June 1941 and the first half of 1945, potential allies for anti-communists in general and Ukrainian nationalists in particular were somewhat scarce.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  89. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind

    with respect to Mexico, Chinese meddling has been the norm:
    https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/2021-08/Illicit_Fentanyl_from_China-An_Evolving_Global_Operation.pdf

    with respect to Canada, Chinese meddling has been the norm:
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/activists-experts-and-policy-makers-speak-out-on-chinese-state-influence-in-canada-1.5407770

    When was the last time the 82nd Airborne Division was in Ottawa or Mexico City?

  90. @Anonymous
    Go Russia! 👊🏻

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @anon

    Go Russia!

    no, the woke term for “Russia” is “ROC”… or something.

  91. Expected irony- most people here, who are actually Nazi apologists, portray Ukrainian people & government as “Nazi”, in this context something “bad”. So, Hitler’s Nazis were good guys, while Zelenskyy’s “Nazis” are bad guys.

    Talking about disconnection from reality….

    By the way, Quora has better texts than most media. Weird, since I’ve always looked down on it as simething inferior…

    https://qr.ae/pGQeeM

    https://qr.ae/pGQeeq

    https://qr.ae/pGQZh6

    https://qr.ae/pGQZKr

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    well is any of this stuff, over there, supposed to make sense to us, over here? Sounds like Slav vs Slav.

  93. @neutral
    @Cato

    There is no way I can see a military draft in America being feasible, even if they have endless propaganda about how this is a global crusade for LGXYZ and BLM, I cannot see how there will be any enthusiasm to die for what is really just neocons/neoliberals.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @duncsbaby


    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.
     
    The law as it stands today requires illegal aliens to register for the draft:


    Immigrant Men Are Required to Register
    With very few exceptions, all immigrant males between ages 18 and 25 are required by law to register with the Selective Service System (SSS) within 30 days of arriving in the United States. This includes naturalized citizens, parolees, undocumented immigrants, legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, refugees, and all males with visas more than 30 days expired.

    Non-Immigrant Foreigners
    Non-immigrant men living in the United States on a valid visa are not required to register for as long as they remain on a valid visa up until they turn 26. If you have received a letter from us requesting that you register, please send us copies of supporting documentation to show you are exempt.

    https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/
     

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  94. The Russians have been calling the Ukrainian government ‘Nazis’ since the US instigated coup in 2014 which enlisted many far right nationalists to do much of the marching and protesting in the Maidan square.

    That immediately afterwards the neocons appointed ‘their guy’ ‘Yats’, a nebbish Jew and that he has been succeeded by another Jewish Ukrainian version of Jon Stewart demonstrates the lack of Nazi influence.

    Obama explained to neocon Jeffrey Goldberg why he wasn’t interested in getting into with Russia over Ukraine (As if any of it was in US interests to begin with) by the simple logic that it mattered more to Russia to have a neutral or friendly regime in Ukraine than it did to the US to have a hostile one. (Because outside punishing Russia for intervening in Syria to please Israel, there was no interest there) The US would always lose a conflict of escalation because it would never matter enough to the US to escalate as much as Russia and both sides would know this.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2016/03/the-obama-doctrine-the-atlantics-exclusive-report-on-presidents-hardest-foreign-policy-decisions/473151/

    And now we see a situation like the Cod Wars where the British got into with Iceland over fishing rights. Fishing rights around Iceland mattered a lot more to Iceland so not only did they win, they ended up with a ridiculous EEZ when all was said and done. All the English had to do was respect Icelandic waters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars

    We’re seeing the same with Russia, it now has Crimea, almost certainly will have the Eastern most parts of Ukraine and may well have a client government in Ukraine by the time this is over. And none of it had to happen except neocon aggression. And now we have a non-trivial scale war between two huge countries in Europe that will lead to much death and destruction and nobody knows how to deal with it with nobody being able to back off. Thanks neocons you got your war!

    • Agree: Fluesterwitz, Lurker
    • Replies: @michael droy
    @Altai

    The Jewish connection to Azov and the nJazis is curious I agree.

    Maybe they can distinguish between nationalists with a policy of murdering minorities that include jews and those that murder minorities without jews.
    I can't manage that myself.
    But it seems that plenty do make that distinction for Israel, so why not for Azov?

    Obama - you do realise that the coup was US in origin. I know the US did a lot without Obama's knowledge or prior approval, but that sounds really rich coming from Obama (and his point man in Ukraine was Biden).
    Biden took US into Ukraine, and now has to extract US from the whole E Europe.

  95. @Hypnotoad666
    @anon

    It's also worth reflecting on the fact that we spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined. Yet, even if we wanted to fight we don't have enough ground game to decisely deter and defeat an invasion by Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).

    So remind me again, where did those trillions of spending go? Was it all used on DIE consultants and investigating the causes of White Rage?

    Replies: @Dumbo

    Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).

    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?

    Perhaps rating countries according to “GDP” is not that great. Having a large territory and lots of oil and gas and a nationalistic leader and good weapons seems more important in the long run…

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Dumbo


    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?
     
    Supposedly, with $1.6B GDP Russia is #11, below Italy (#9) and wedged between Canada (#10) and South Korea (#12). GDP is a good measure of what a country could afford to pay to assert itself, if it wanted. But it is true that Russia is willing to pay a higher percentage of that GDP for military and has a greater will to assert itself. So, no doubt it punches above its GDP weight in geopolitics.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  96. Ultimately, the problem is that Ukrainians consider themselves
    racially superior to Russians, and feel a racial affinity to Germans.
    As we know, some Ukrainian forces were allied with Nazi
    Germany during WW II. So Putin is effectively saying,
    “I’ll show you who is superior.”

    September 1, 2009 Putin visited Poland to conduct bilateral
    talks with Donald Tusk, then the Prime Minister of Poland.
    Putin said, “Lvov is a Polish city. Poland and Russia should
    work together to resolve this problem.” Some claim that Putin
    floated the idea of Poland and Russia going back to the old
    historical arrangement in which the region known later
    as Ukraine was divided between Poland and Russia. Poland
    ruled the western half, roughly through the Dnepr river. Kiev
    was under Polish control for more than a hundred years.”
    Ukrainians see the Polish as part Germanic like themselves.

  97. This is stupid.
    Read the OSCE reports for the past 8 years.
    The Azov military group has been shelling civilians in Donbas for 8 solid years, and this increased by a factor of 10 in the last week.
    They wear Nazi insignia so calling them nazi is perfectly correct.
    They believe it is correct nationalist policy to kill an ethnic group based on identity – which makes the Nazi in every definition.

    The real issue is why people obsess with the Right Wing in US as being nazis when the Democrat leadership has been sending weapons and Special forces trainers to Azov.
    There are dozens of media photos of US officials under Obama and Biden with Azov military wearing Nazi insignia. Dozens.

    • Replies: @Exile
    @michael droy


    They wear Nazi insignia so calling them nazi is perfectly correct.
     
    Joe Biden wears the title of President and uses the Presidential seal and the American flag. Is he your President?

    It's almost like symbols can be misused as false flags.

    They believe it is correct nationalist policy to kill an ethnic group based on identity – which makes the Nazi in every definition.

     

    Everything you think you know about the Holocaust and WWII is a lie.

    How much political traction have you ever gained with "Dems R the Real Nazis?" It's a purpose-built hill for conservative dupes to die on. Stop falling for these sophomoric tricks.
  98. @Altai
    The Russians have been calling the Ukrainian government 'Nazis' since the US instigated coup in 2014 which enlisted many far right nationalists to do much of the marching and protesting in the Maidan square.

    That immediately afterwards the neocons appointed 'their guy' 'Yats', a nebbish Jew and that he has been succeeded by another Jewish Ukrainian version of Jon Stewart demonstrates the lack of Nazi influence.

    Obama explained to neocon Jeffrey Goldberg why he wasn't interested in getting into with Russia over Ukraine (As if any of it was in US interests to begin with) by the simple logic that it mattered more to Russia to have a neutral or friendly regime in Ukraine than it did to the US to have a hostile one. (Because outside punishing Russia for intervening in Syria to please Israel, there was no interest there) The US would always lose a conflict of escalation because it would never matter enough to the US to escalate as much as Russia and both sides would know this.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2016/03/the-obama-doctrine-the-atlantics-exclusive-report-on-presidents-hardest-foreign-policy-decisions/473151/

    And now we see a situation like the Cod Wars where the British got into with Iceland over fishing rights. Fishing rights around Iceland mattered a lot more to Iceland so not only did they win, they ended up with a ridiculous EEZ when all was said and done. All the English had to do was respect Icelandic waters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars

    We're seeing the same with Russia, it now has Crimea, almost certainly will have the Eastern most parts of Ukraine and may well have a client government in Ukraine by the time this is over. And none of it had to happen except neocon aggression. And now we have a non-trivial scale war between two huge countries in Europe that will lead to much death and destruction and nobody knows how to deal with it with nobody being able to back off. Thanks neocons you got your war!

    Replies: @michael droy

    The Jewish connection to Azov and the nJazis is curious I agree.

    Maybe they can distinguish between nationalists with a policy of murdering minorities that include jews and those that murder minorities without jews.
    I can’t manage that myself.
    But it seems that plenty do make that distinction for Israel, so why not for Azov?

    Obama – you do realise that the coup was US in origin. I know the US did a lot without Obama’s knowledge or prior approval, but that sounds really rich coming from Obama (and his point man in Ukraine was Biden).
    Biden took US into Ukraine, and now has to extract US from the whole E Europe.

  99. @Art Deco
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he's not located in any western capital.

    Replies: @Sean, @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @JonJon

    Be all that Dark Triad, went mad in isolation during lockdown, age related demented paranoia stuff be true of Putin as it may, the question remains: would–could–any Russian leader have acted differently? Putin tried to join Nato you know, this was in 2001 and he was given the runaround with talk of processing his application bureaucratism The current head of the CIA published a book in which he recalled a memo to Bush noting that during his years in the Moscow Embassy never once did he meet any Russian (even liberals sharply critical of Putin) who thought the Ukraine joining Nato was acceptable. Bush ignored that advice and the accompanying conclusion that Russia would make mischief and went ahead with persuading the other members to agree to an announcement Ukraine would join Nato.

    I would also point out that Ukraine joining Nato is supposedly a dead letter because there is a territorial dispute since 2014, but that dispute was one Putin created through the use of military force after Ukraine over through his democratically boy (for the second time it happened in 2004 to the same guy ), and in 2014seemed to be moving towards joining the EU, which is effectively the economic wing of Nato and the carrot for getting countries to join Nato. Hence Putin sponsoring an uprising in the Donbass in 2014 was a stopgap rather that putting an end to the Ukraine in Nato possibility. Ukraine is a Nato ‘partner’ working towards full membership officially. If it was never going to join now actually, why did Biden not in negotiations offer that; it would be a meaningless concession but Putin would have something to show. Do Biden’s advisors actually want to get Ukraine in Nato at some future point? Munich conceded territory to Hitler. Saying that Ukraine would not join Nato was not giving Putin any territory but rather trying to persuade him not to take any.

    Biden and his advisers didn’t think Putin would invade. Putin said unless he got some concessions on Ukraine he would take ‘military and technical measures’. Refusing to treat with Putin was a discretionary decision by Biden and his idiotic advisors. The people in charge of US foreign policy are liking in the past; Ukraine is not West Germany during the Cold War. Did JFK have agency for ‘discretionary decisions ‘and psychopathic traits for trying to overthrow the government of Cuba for allying with the USSR? Cuba was a sovereign state. Then he almost started a nuclear war because Cuba hosted US missiles. There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

  100. @Art Deco
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he's not located in any western capital.

    Replies: @Sean, @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @JonJon

    Art Deco wrote to me:

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.

    You mean Zelensky?

    He could after all surrender immediately and allow Putin to set up a new puppet regime to replace the US-backed puppet regime.

    Or do you mean Biden, who could, after all, now announce that in exchange for a ceasefire, we will agree that Ukraine will never be in NATO and that the Donbass will be autonomous?

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    But the hypocrisy of Westerners who condemn Putin but do not condemn similar actions by the USA is simply stunning.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @PhysicistDave


    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.
     
    ...........totally agree, of course this may be what US deep state wanted all along..... why not? ,so much evil is being perpetrated right now.
    , @Paperback Writer
    @PhysicistDave

    "The Western elites" - going back to the Clinton administration. Bush the Elder had a competent crew. The rot set in with Clinton, it was all downhill from there.

    Everyone:

    Rob Lee has good info

    https://twitter.com/RALee85

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @PhysicistDave


    It is not nice to invade another country.
     
    We were celebrated for invading France-- twice. The world is a hypocrite. Be careful what you ask for.

    Besides, it wasn't nice to lose half a million men in Europe.


    Typo of the day? (The second one.)

    "But there’s no guarantee the Ukranians will lay [sic] down and let him have their county [sic] passively." 


    https://redstate.com/dennis_santiago/2022/02/24/analysis-putin-throws-world-peace-into-the-trash-bin-the-world-awaits-bidens-response-n527044

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

  101. Somehow I don’t think America’s feckless elite will be able to use this war to “unite the nation”–not even temporarily. But, the Bidenites desperately need to distract the American people from their sabotage of the nation. We can expect loud coverage of this for as long as possible and minimal coverage of our national destruction at the border, in the courts, in Congress, in the schools, etc.

    The experiment of Ukrainian national “independence” has been no great success. First, it’s never been truly independent. Then it’s held the title of most corrupt nation in Europe for its term of existence, never developed a functional economy, never come close to pulling out of its world leading demographic dive, faced unceasing, destabilizing political threats from America and its vicious Europets. Now comes the experiment of rejoining a post-Soviet Russia. Will Kazakhstan be next? Belarus is already such a close Russian ally that it’s virtually a de facto Russian province. So far, the transfer of Ukraine looks like another deserved humiliation for the GAE and, in the long run, probably a benefit for the Ukrainians. What’s not to like?

  102. @PhysicistDave
    @Sam Haysom

    Sam Haysom wrote:


    Lol Russian woke is even cringier than globohomo woke because globohomo woke isn’t always crying about some promise James Baker made to the Soviet Union.
     
    Jack Kennedy would not tolerate Russian nukes in Cuba (although, under international law, the Cubans had a right to ally with anyone they wished).

    Putin would not allow a US puppet regime in Kiev that kept wanting to join NATO.

    Not "Russian woke"; just geopolitical realities.

    A lot of people are going to die because of the stupidity of the Biden regime.

    Putin would have settled for autonomy or independence for the Donbass and a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

    But Biden couldn't make a sensible deal.

    Now people will die.

    I pointed out a couple days ago here that Russians really are fond of Odessa. Russian marines have now landed in Odessa.

    I predict that the post-war settlement involves a substantial expansion of the Russian Black Sea coast.

    I just hope Putin realizes that he does not want or need Kiev: he should put his own puppet regime in place (to replace Vicky Nuland's puppet regime) and let Kiev pretend to rule what is left of Ukraine.

    As Schiller said, “Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.”

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @PhysicistDave

    The report of Russian marines landing in Odessa now seems to be an error reported in Western media (although there do seem to have been missile attacks near Odessa).

    Or maybe the report was just premature.

  103. @newrouter
    Please update us on what David French is saying.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Mike_from_SGV, @MEH 0910

    Please update us on what David French is saying.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @MEH 0910

    "Make Russia pay for what it has done" in the 19th century.

    , @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    > Arm the Ukrainian military and the Ukrainian resistance.

    Dear Dave,

    About that armed resistance to the overwhelming might and technical superiority of a ruthless adversary.

    The TFR for Afghanistan is 4.7 children born per woman (2021 estimate). For Ukraine, it's 1.6.

    Somehow I don't think that reflecting on these facts will have any effect on what your keyboard contributes to Twitter.

    Let's you and him fight.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Paperback Writer

  104. @Ken52
    There are definitely Neo-Nazi forces that are part of the Ukraine Military.
    https://youtu.be/zwynHUEPo54

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Paperback Writer

    (Don’t be mean, Steve doesn’t know anything about foreign policy. He’s mentally still in that golden time when American boomers didn’t need to think about other countries.)

  105. @Art Deco
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he's not located in any western capital.

    Replies: @Sean, @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @JonJon

    Objectively and obviously wrong.

  106. @MEH 0910
    @newrouter


    Please update us on what David French is saying.
     
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1496732331373170688

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ic1000

    “Make Russia pay for what it has done” in the 19th century.

  107. Though they may not realize it, yet, ultimately any substantial people, irregardless of the context, are seen as Nazi!TM should they simply desire to preserve themselves in the face of the global multicult onslaught, and not ‘just’ Euro peoples, who are indeed getting the brunt of it at this time.

    The only exception to this are the typically tiny in number pet/token ‘rump’ peoples which (for the moment) are allowed to exist.

    With their elites and hangers on generally safely under control or compromised, these politically useful ‘Potemkin’ peoples are cynically and with great fanfare trotted out on to the world stage on occasion, to demonstrate and spotlight to the world that tptb do indeed ‘care’ about folk, and are not simply the callous monsters that they may at first glance appear to be. In this regard the Tibetians, so called ‘First Nations/First Peoples’, Australian aborigines, Amish, and with all due respect, Ukranians, all come to mind.

    The proles and animals are free.

  108. @AKAHorace
    and Trump just announced

    Former US President Donald Trump took to the airwaves on Fox News as the Russian offensive began on Wednesday night US time to argue that it "wouldn't have taken place" during his administration.
     
    Even if completely true, this is not the time to say this. An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity. David Cole is right about Trump, he is a disaster for the American right.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Redman, @Curle, @Wokechoke

    I understand the concept of “my country, right or wrong”. It’s just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Brutusale


    It’s just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.
     
    Replace “seems” with “is” and you have the motto for all here.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Brutusale

    It's not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it's still the one on your passport and on any government checks you're lucky to get, but it doesn't belong to you.

    NATO should have been disbanded in 1993. Europe should have been told guns or butter, choose one. US economists should not have committed grotesque economic malpractice in Russia. Yeltsin's successor would have been another genial populist, not a byzantine ex-KGB determined to reverse his country's decline.

    How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way--in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?

    To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn't worth World War 3. But then they shouldn't have engaged in such bombastic rhetoric, knowing Putin's ultimatum, and that they had no intention of combat operations against Russia.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @AKAHorace
    @Brutusale


    I understand the concept of “my country, right or wrong”. It’s just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.
     
    Even from the point of view of narrow self interest for the Republicans, Trump should have sounded bipartisan for a bit as the Russians were invading Ukraine. Then again, as a Canadian, I may not be able to judge American Republicans well enough to say.
  109. As of 7:30am EST, this is a livestreamed war. Russia has decided to leave Ukraine’s cell service and internet alone. Webcams at border crossings have been streaming images of vehicles streaming into the country.

    Here is Rob Lee on Twitter posting a cell-phone video of a helicopter-mounted air assault near Kyiv, about an hour ago.

    So the Russians believe they have already achieved air supremacy, at least around the capital.

    Presumably the motives for open-access are (1) Convince the Ukrainian military and civilians that it’s hopeless, give up rather than throwing your life away; (2) Remind the West what bear-baiting really means.

    Presumably also, the Russians have a timetable. Cellphones, landlines, the internet, and perhaps electricity are likely to go down fairly soon, for the tactical advantages.

    8 hours ago, Tulsi Gabbard tweeted,

    This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border.

    3 hours later, Richard Hanania·commented,

    Everyone dunking on this tweet shows what is wrong with how the political class thinks about foreign policy. Those supporting NATO expansion have been the ones in charge, not Tulsi. The anti-interventionists told you where our reckless foreign policy was going, and were right.

    Today is a disaster for our country and for Franz Josef’s reign. But a happy day for Škoda Works.

    • Thanks: Russ
    • Replies: @Director95
    @ic1000

    Globo-homo foreign policy and militarist war drums = $100/bbl oil. Could go higher.
    Put NATO on a leash or shut it down.

    American border>>>>>Ukraine border.

  110. @Ebony Obelisk
    Tragic but this will be beneficial to America.

    Before this is over our brave youngsters the most diverse and vibrant in history will whoop butt even worse than what we did to the nazis and southerners and civil rights against ers

    America will come together to liberate Europe from the Russian nazis and conservatism and white supremacy will be dealt a hard blow

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    Replies: @Cato, @James Braxton, @Muggles

    Ukraine is not in any alliance with us. We owe Ukraine nothing other than maybe an apology.

    We don’t feel the need to use military force to liberate Cyprus from Turkey, Golan Heights from Israel, Western Sahara from Morocco, Tibet from China, etc. Why would this be any different?

  111. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m having a hard time getting actual war news, rather than the blabla about what leaders say. This is the best I found, but still not great.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60504334

    Like where the tanks are (are there even tanks?) Are there any full scale military battles going on? Are the Russians (other than air attack) in all of Ukraine or just the Donbas area? Are the Ukrainians fighting back? Also has either country declared war?

    I wonder if this will be like the Georgian war. Russkis drive in, give a whipping, leader deposed, drive out. And take some pieces away. But not the whole shebang.

  112. Basically – most people here are dumb as a sack of hammers. They simply can’t get anything. Probably it’s inevitable…

    https://qr.ae/pGQZxR

    https://qr.ae/pGQZPB

    etc.etc.

    Putin’s corrupt crony oligopoly won’t allow Russians the freedom to choose another leader to try something different. Even Trump wouldn’t admit he’s unpopular, so he had to spin the Big Lie. Putin has far more control and far less ethical qualms with poisoning, shooting, torturing and imprisoning critics and political opposition, so the Russian media, state and private (those still allowed to report) cannot be honest about the situation, and protesters face what I already mentioned.

    So, no, no hope for Russia to improve its economy and quality of life until this corrupt regime is replaced, my guess at least a decade away since Putin has held power for over two decades.

    In any event, a lot of sociologists, psychologists and historians question whether Russian mindset is compatible with a government that’s not autocratic. For sure, as we see in US and China, the bigger the country in population and geographic size, the more complex and bureaucratic, so liberty and representative government are far less effective in USA than in small nations like Scandinavia, Switzerland, New Zealand, and Japan.

    Size has its pros and cons, as does capitalism and liberal democratic institutions that began in Greece, then Rome, then London, Washington and Paris. Moscow knows little of this concept except through the lens of their controlled media, and most can’t afford to travel to experience the freedom, wealth and abundance that Western mindset affords. That’s why Japan, Singapore, Australia are more affluent and freer than Russians, and India is catching up to Russia and China fairly quickly, as it’s removed some old ways of doing things and embracing change for a better future.

  113. @MEH 0910
    @newrouter


    Please update us on what David French is saying.
     
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1496732331373170688

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ic1000

    > Arm the Ukrainian military and the Ukrainian resistance.

    Dear Dave,

    About that armed resistance to the overwhelming might and technical superiority of a ruthless adversary.

    The TFR for Afghanistan is 4.7 children born per woman (2021 estimate). For Ukraine, it’s 1.6.

    Somehow I don’t think that reflecting on these facts will have any effect on what your keyboard contributes to Twitter.

    Let’s you and him fight.

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @ic1000

    They don't call him Vichy French for nothing.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @ic1000

    I get an even lower Ukraine TFR. And the current one is irrelevant. It could be 8 and what does that matter? Look at 2000, when it was hovering over 1.0.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=UA

    Anyway the Russians aren't that stupid. There won't be an insurgency. Look at Syria. People predicted they'd get bogged down there but they didn't.

  114. @clifford brown
    @Stan Adams

    ABC News spent most of an hour showing a static map of Ukraine as if television never went beyond 1965. The American media propaganda is not nearly as impressive in orchestrating war coverage unless they have about six months lead time. Sky News out of the UK not only had journalists on the ground, but engaging edited footage.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    News organizations had dozens of reporters working on the fake Bubba Wallace NASCAR noose story, yet ABC has one elderly Brit and the even more elderly Martha Raddatz in Kiev. It’s not an important story like trans rights or BLM.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    @Brutusale

    Properly called, 'The BLM Cartel'
    You're welcome.

    , @J.Ross
    @Brutusale

    Ukraine cannot matter until black lives matter.

  115. @Harry Baldwin
    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there's a Nazi under every bedsheet.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Twinkie

    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.

    Everything in the news in this country is Holocaust morality play.

    There is a Holocaust Memorial right in the imperial capital – and in just about every city of size – as a reminder to all right-thinking Americans.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    I remember I was driving through literally nowheresville Kentucky and there was this placard nailed to the telephone pole, under the Lions and Kiwanis and Masons signs, talking about the (nobody) Memorial Holocaust Museum.

    , @JMcG
    @Twinkie

    The Rwandan genocide seems completely forgotten these days. I wonder why.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Brutusale
    @Twinkie

    And always in a place where it shouldn't be, like smack dab in the middle of the Faneuil Hall area in Boston.

    https://www.nehm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Holocaust-Memorial-Image.jpg

    Move the abomination to Brookline or Newton where it belongs.

  116. @PhysicistDave
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco wrote to me:


    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.
     
    You mean Zelensky?

    He could after all surrender immediately and allow Putin to set up a new puppet regime to replace the US-backed puppet regime.

    Or do you mean Biden, who could, after all, now announce that in exchange for a ceasefire, we will agree that Ukraine will never be in NATO and that the Donbass will be autonomous?

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    But the hypocrisy of Westerners who condemn Putin but do not condemn similar actions by the USA is simply stunning.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    ………..totally agree, of course this may be what US deep state wanted all along….. why not? ,so much evil is being perpetrated right now.

  117. @bispora
    @EddieSpaghetti

    You are right- a heroic Ukrainian pilot, proving Zelensky's claim that they will not sit idly by, landed his Su27 fighter at Bacau airport and surrendered...
    https://www.mapn.ro/cpresa/17283_avion-militar-ucrainean,-interceptat-si-aterizat-la-bacau

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

    That pilot is a smart man. He need not be an evolutionary dead end. I hope he has many children.

  118. The Water-Nazis remind me of the Wasser-Nattern and Wasser-Ratten.
    Beware though: The expression water-rat (= Wasser-Ratte) means a devoted swimmer! A water-adder (=viper) I once encountered in the Lake of Constance while swimming there near Radolfzell. – There were actually quite a few of them I encountered, maybe 5 – and they were little – maybe newly wed. Years later I still think at times I could have accidentally gulped one.

  119. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Steve’s analysis. Brought to you by the Roadrunner/Wiley Coyote Masters in history program.

  120. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways ...
     
    As quite reasonably so.

    They'd been treated poorly by the Commies--including a starved in a massive famine--and probably thought "let's get out from under those assholes!" (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i've mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of "nationalism" but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought "these Germans can't be any worse than the commies".)

    Replies: @Twinkie, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox

    I agree with almost all of your comment, but…

    The Japanese got almost no one on board.

    This isn’t quite true. Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators. It is as with the French – most collaborated with the (erstwhile) winner, but all were “Resistance all along” after the war.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    Everybody forgets this but Thailand was like 100% pro-Japanese and were given a pass after the war because they were anti-Communists.

    , @JMcG
    @Twinkie

    The Thais were formally allied with the Japanese during the Second World War.

    , @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    Crowd behavior can get people to do things and express resentments they'd otherwise wouldn't, though. I'd be curious to see how many store looters would obey the law if there wasn't already a bunch of people doing it.

    >Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators.

    Same story in Southeast Asia, though the experience would vary depending on the country: Filipinos seem to have had a particularly rough time of it (I've heard of some... exceedingly awful stories concerning Manila in 1945), Thailand was allied with Japan, in Malaysia collaboration with the Japanese broke down on ethnic lines much like Yugoslavia did in Europe, in Indonesia Java was selected for collaboration and Sumatra for exploitation, etc.

    Vietnam had a particularly weird experience in 1945. On one hand, there was a massive famine going on that was partially rooted in occupation rice exportation policies. On the other hand, many Japanese officers threw their lot in with the Viet Minh. Thousands would stay on after 1945, training and arming them into a force that could seriously challenge the prewar order-there's no way the First Indochinese War could have gone the way it did if it weren't for those IJA guys-and Ho refused to hand them over to the French and the Chinese.

    The latter of which wanted to utilized Japanese expertise for *their* impending next war. "You little bastards, we claimed them first!" :P

    Replies: @Tex, @Twinkie

  121. But in this case, we are actually talking real neo-Nazis, very much like the US-based “Atomwaffen”, no? I.e., a bunch of losers who think they’re representative of the the master race and self-tasked with carrying on Hitler’s grand legacy, all organized, funded, and directed by our own government?

  122. @Reg Cæsar
    @rebel yell


    We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in...
     
    "...and you wouldn't want to see anything happen to it, would you?"



    https://c.tenor.com/xDZDJES19S0AAAAC/gangster-threat.gif

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Eastern Promises?

  123. Here is an education in the matter:

    Do we have any political leaders this articulate and well-informed here in the United States?

    LOL.

    NO.

    (I would add that my favorite, Victor Orban falls into this highly intelligent, informed, articulate group.)

    • Agree: PiltdownMan, Kronos
    • Replies: @Russ
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Do we have any political leaders this articulate and well-informed here in the United States?

    LOL.
     
    You mean that Kamala Harris won't be presenting the Democrat response?
    , @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Granted, Vladimir Putin is a former intelligence officer, so his ability to marshal facts and remember details must be well above average, but even so, his annual 4 hour long public Q&A sessions are sui generis.

    I can't recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics.

    https://youtu.be/_CSpnWd90_w

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

  124. @Brutusale
    @clifford brown

    News organizations had dozens of reporters working on the fake Bubba Wallace NASCAR noose story, yet ABC has one elderly Brit and the even more elderly Martha Raddatz in Kiev. It's not an important story like trans rights or BLM.

    Replies: @profnasty, @J.Ross

    Properly called, ‘The BLM Cartel’
    You’re welcome.

  125. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with almost all of your comment, but…


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.
     
    This isn’t quite true. Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators. It is as with the French - most collaborated with the (erstwhile) winner, but all were “Resistance all along” after the war.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    Everybody forgets this but Thailand was like 100% pro-Japanese and were given a pass after the war because they were anti-Communists.

  126. anon[825] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin’s comparison is, relatively speaking, reasonable.

    The only elements of the Ukranian armed forces that have any willingness to fight are the likes of the Azov battalion, supposed ‘nationalists’ who watched holohoax propaganda like Schindler’s List and thought it was pornography, but who support the zionist occupational government of Ukraine put in by the CIA and other American filth.

    Meanwhile, the dictator of Ukraine is the genocidal zionist Zelensky, who supports the crimes of ‘israel’ that mimic the imaginary ones that his fellow jews accuse Hitler of.

    Putin is wrong only in that the filth who are being killed in this police operation in Ukraine are not fit to lick the boots of Adolf Hitler.

  127. @Brutusale
    @clifford brown

    News organizations had dozens of reporters working on the fake Bubba Wallace NASCAR noose story, yet ABC has one elderly Brit and the even more elderly Martha Raddatz in Kiev. It's not an important story like trans rights or BLM.

    Replies: @profnasty, @J.Ross

    Ukraine cannot matter until black lives matter.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
  128. @Twinkie
    @Harry Baldwin


    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.
     
    Everything in the news in this country is Holocaust morality play.

    There is a Holocaust Memorial right in the imperial capital - and in just about every city of size - as a reminder to all right-thinking Americans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @Brutusale

    I remember I was driving through literally nowheresville Kentucky and there was this placard nailed to the telephone pole, under the Lions and Kiwanis and Masons signs, talking about the (nobody) Memorial Holocaust Museum.

  129. @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    Why is Putin so upset about nazis anyway. I mean what did they ever do to Russia? Oh right . . .

    Replies: @profnasty

    Pretty sure the Russian ‘J’s started it.

    Oh right.

  130. Thousands of the Ukrainians are fleeing Kiev, some in cars, some on foot.
    Most are heading toward Poland where the Polish authorities, with the
    help of the 82nd Airborne, have established massive encampments that
    include processing centers, cafeterias, playgrounds for children, etc

    Historically, Poland has been seen as a place of safety and refuge from
    the violent western Europeans (e.g., Poland accepted thousands of
    refugees from Italy and Scotland during the Religious Wars, and of
    course thousands of Jews; later, prior to the outbreak of the French
    Revolution Poland offered refuge to hundreds of French noble families)
    and the violent eastern Europeans (e.g., during the Bolshevik Revolution).

  131. @Brutusale
    @AKAHorace

    I understand the concept of "my country, right or wrong". It's just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AKAHorace

    It’s just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Replace “seems” with “is” and you have the motto for all here.

  132. @rebel yell
    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country. I believe they had a think tank named after Goebbels. Sounds pretty Nazi to me.
    At any rate, Ukrainians can be Nazis or freedom fighters, and Russia can be defending their own borders or invading someone else's, however you choose to interpret it. It is still NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. The only thing we will ever get out of our global hegemony is more immigrants, more wasted tax dollars, more propaganda, more restrictions on our civil liberties, more American oligarchs controlling our politics, and did I mention, more immigrants?
    Stop thinking about the Eurasian chessboard. Turn your back and walk away. We have a nice big Western Hemisphere to live in.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    Many of the Ukrainian leaders are in fact neo-Nazis, at least the ones that were picked and promoted by Victoria Nuland to lead the country

    I think you are wrong. The Ukrainians are not neo-Nazis, they are Heritage Nazi’s.
    They are not like the neo-con filth who glommed onto the “Conservatives” as a temporary tool to be used for the greater good of Israel, these Uke’s seem to be the sons and grandsons of those who saw the Nazi’s as a source of strength against the communists destroying their people (And those communists were the fathers of the US neocons in many instances).
    The Ukraine Nazi’s came by it honestly. That they prove to be tools of the Nuland’s is just one more of life’s little ironies.

  133. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here is an education in the matter:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGLhhTtxFU&t=93s


    Do we have any political leaders this articulate and well-informed here in the United States?

    LOL.

    NO.

    (I would add that my favorite, Victor Orban falls into this highly intelligent, informed, articulate group.)

    Replies: @Russ, @PiltdownMan

    Do we have any political leaders this articulate and well-informed here in the United States?

    LOL.

    You mean that Kamala Harris won’t be presenting the Democrat response?

  134. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here is an education in the matter:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGLhhTtxFU&t=93s


    Do we have any political leaders this articulate and well-informed here in the United States?

    LOL.

    NO.

    (I would add that my favorite, Victor Orban falls into this highly intelligent, informed, articulate group.)

    Replies: @Russ, @PiltdownMan

    Granted, Vladimir Putin is a former intelligence officer, so his ability to marshal facts and remember details must be well above average, but even so, his annual 4 hour long public Q&A sessions are sui generis.

    I can’t recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    Putin turns 70 this year. How long is he going to be able to keep this up?

    Putin had better be in command of all the facts, because he makes every important decision. Such concentration of decision making is not healthy. No matter how wise Putin is, it's beyond the capability of one man. And whoever comes next will likely be much less capable - dictators can't stand having anyone but yes men around them. Putin's humiliation of his cabinet on live TV seemed like a masterful performance but it betrayed organizational weakness rather than Putin's strength. His cabinet consists of his ex-bodyguard, his ex-chef, etc. because these are people he can push around.

    Stalin ended up dying in a puddle of his own urine because treating his health was an important decision that only he could make but he was unconscious and so couldn't make it so he couldn't receive any treatment - Catch 22.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @BB753
    @PiltdownMan

    "I can’t recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics."

    In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he's only 8 years his senior.

    Replies: @HA

  135. @AKAHorace
    and Trump just announced

    Former US President Donald Trump took to the airwaves on Fox News as the Russian offensive began on Wednesday night US time to argue that it "wouldn't have taken place" during his administration.
     
    Even if completely true, this is not the time to say this. An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity. David Cole is right about Trump, he is a disaster for the American right.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Redman, @Curle, @Wokechoke

    But why would you expect him to say anything else? Should he be touting how great it is that Biden’s ineptitude has led to this?

    The only reason to have Trump on TV is to point out the contrasts with his foreign policy. I think we need to be fighting this “rally round the flag” bull shit the MSM is flooding the airwaves with right now. This ain’t my war.

  136. @AnotherDad
    @Anon7


    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.
     
    Yep. That's the invasion story that actually matters for Americans.

    ~~

    If there's a simple common cause of conflict in the modern world it would have to be "parasitism".

    Some people(s) just will not let other people(s) alone to do their own thing: Live according to their own norms and culture; associate with whom they want; don't associate with whom they don't want. Some subset of the human species just insists on glomming on to other people's stuff and/or ordering them to behave in this or that manner.

    The Russia/Ukraine thing could be quickly resolved by people of good will be Russia leaving Ukrainians who like being Ukrainian to do their own thing. And Ukrainians who like being Russian to do their own thing--including becoming part of Russia.

    The "race problem" in the US likewise could be sorted by separation. Blacks who do not want to live by traditional white public norms, creating their own nation. All the people who love "diversity" and want to boss everyone's interactions according to DIE diktat going off to form their Rainbow nation. And Americans who actually like being American forming up America 2.0.

    The problem as always is that people enjoying their own organic communities, associating only voluntary with others and governing themselves as they see fit ... just doesn't suit the desires of parasitic looters trying to glom on.

    Replies: @S

    The problem as always is that people enjoying their own organic communities, associating only voluntary with others and governing themselves as they see fit … just doesn’t suit the desires of parasitic looters trying to glom on.

    You make too much sense.

    Back in olden times, backwards as many were not knowing how to deal properly with wildlife, and not yet having developed a live and let live attitude towards them by simply leaving them be in their natural environment, there were plenty of those who thought simply slaughtering all creatures, great and small, was the way to ‘make things safe’ for mankind.

    The only good animal is a dead animal, or, so they thought.

    Short of that, maybe allow a very few of these poor creatures to safely ‘live’ caged up in a barren, cold, concrete and steel barred zoo, where they could ‘safely’ be allowed to exist, frantically spending their days pacing back and forth in their prison until they die, might be tolerated.

    Happily, many today are moving away from all that, and don’t do that anymore to wildlife.

    Unfortunately, all too many today want to treat the peoples of the world the same way wildlife was once treated. To make mankind safe, oxymoronically, the peoples of the world in general must be slaughtered/genocided.

    The only good people is a dead people, or, so they think.

    Short of that, keeping the peoples of the world imprisoned ‘safely’ behind the steel bars and barren cold concrete of the ‘woke’ so called ‘progressive’ multi-cult zoo, where they might be allowed to exist, but not to live freely in reality or substance, seems to be an alternative that is being pushed for.

    Of course, the obvious answer is to work within the reality that the various unique peoples of the world, as part of an extended collective self, do indeed exist, and have the right to freely exist. To work towards finding ways that the peoples of the world get along better, based upon how individuals do. To live and to let live.

    If this madness isn’t stopped in regards to the peoples of the world and their right to freely exist, the next step is a full blown Orwellian police state to make the world ‘safe’ from the ‘danger’ of the individual.

  137. @AKAHorace
    and Trump just announced

    Former US President Donald Trump took to the airwaves on Fox News as the Russian offensive began on Wednesday night US time to argue that it "wouldn't have taken place" during his administration.
     
    Even if completely true, this is not the time to say this. An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity. David Cole is right about Trump, he is a disaster for the American right.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Redman, @Curle, @Wokechoke

    “An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity.”

    Because campaign contributions are never related to war profits?

  138. @Sean
    @Art Deco

    Be all that Dark Triad, went mad in isolation during lockdown, age related demented paranoia stuff be true of Putin as it may, the question remains: would--could--any Russian leader have acted differently? Putin tried to join Nato you know, this was in 2001 and he was given the runaround with talk of processing his application bureaucratism The current head of the CIA published a book in which he recalled a memo to Bush noting that during his years in the Moscow Embassy never once did he meet any Russian (even liberals sharply critical of Putin) who thought the Ukraine joining Nato was acceptable. Bush ignored that advice and the accompanying conclusion that Russia would make mischief and went ahead with persuading the other members to agree to an announcement Ukraine would join Nato.

    I would also point out that Ukraine joining Nato is supposedly a dead letter because there is a territorial dispute since 2014, but that dispute was one Putin created through the use of military force after Ukraine over through his democratically boy (for the second time it happened in 2004 to the same guy ), and in 2014seemed to be moving towards joining the EU, which is effectively the economic wing of Nato and the carrot for getting countries to join Nato. Hence Putin sponsoring an uprising in the Donbass in 2014 was a stopgap rather that putting an end to the Ukraine in Nato possibility. Ukraine is a Nato 'partner' working towards full membership officially. If it was never going to join now actually, why did Biden not in negotiations offer that; it would be a meaningless concession but Putin would have something to show. Do Biden's advisors actually want to get Ukraine in Nato at some future point? Munich conceded territory to Hitler. Saying that Ukraine would not join Nato was not giving Putin any territory but rather trying to persuade him not to take any.

    Biden and his advisers didn't think Putin would invade. Putin said unless he got some concessions on Ukraine he would take 'military and technical measures'. Refusing to treat with Putin was a discretionary decision by Biden and his idiotic advisors. The people in charge of US foreign policy are liking in the past; Ukraine is not West Germany during the Cold War. Did JFK have agency for 'discretionary decisions 'and psychopathic traits for trying to overthrow the government of Cuba for allying with the USSR? Cuba was a sovereign state. Then he almost started a nuclear war because Cuba hosted US missiles. There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow

    Replies: @Jack D

    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow

    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper – the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it’s going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons – we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there’s no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    Jack D, your assessment is correct but incomplete.

    I commend this essay by Richard Hanania to Steve's readers, posted last night on Substack. I wish it wasn't so.

    For my own scorecard, I'll parrot what Saagar Enjeti just tweeted.


    Accountability: Given the track record of US intelligence, I did not believe their maximalist claims and did not believe that Putin would so flagrantly break the world order with this crime of an invasion. I was wrong.
     
    Wiser people than me have been forecasting the past days' events for weeks and even months, based on their appreciations of open-source information.

    Could this have been averted if Tulsi Gabbard's apprehensions had been heeded? We'll never know, but I think the answer is, Probably.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D

    You underestimate how sick, weak and overextended the US/West is. The Ukraine was A Bridge Too Far.

    We've maxed out our credit cards, gained weight, and are still acting like a bully. Russia has every right and reason to do this and to turn toward China.

    It's not a question of "How does conquering Ukraine change this?" When "this" is a threatening scenario brought about by American manipulation. The government of The Ukraine is an illegitimate one brought about by an American coup in a corrupt country right next door to the rest of Russia.

    Don't be distracted. Watch China, Russia and the world financial markets. Watch oil, and make note of how the US now will call in its chips in Saudi Arabia (now that domestically "our" government has restricted our ability to be energy independent.}

    All of this is regressive and puts the same old bastards back into the driver's seat on the American bus.. The difference is that it will ultimately lead to a Russia/China/Eurasia domination of the world economy and the fall of the United States from its present leadership position in the world. The times are-a-changing.

    So far, though, you are correct in the sense that our European poodles are still on the leash and behaving themselves...

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Jack D


    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

     

    P.J. O'Rourke once had it this way: You don't win much today via war because territory does make no big difference. His major example was Singapur: No territory, all riches. His conclusion: "War does not work any longer. (...) Modern nations do not triumph by conquering foreign territories and by bringing foeign people under their control." - It's productivity that matters now, he concludes (in The Multicultural Society - Bosnia 1992 - his unbelieveably good essay/reportage hybrid about the Balkan wars - a masterpiece (one of the texts of our times that could well be read hundred years from now - studied & admired too).

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Craken

    , @Sean
    @Jack D


    Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia.
     
    Because they know he is not bluffing and will initiate hostilities. Will the Poles pay more attention to Russian concerns because of this? If Putin says "You may be an sovereign nation but if you put offensive missiles in that base it will be a aganst Russian interests" they are going to listen a bit more respectfully now. The ABM missiles are supposed to guard against nonexistent Iranian nukes don't forget.

    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.
     
    All countries (that are still around) act like this though. The US went to the brink of nuclear war over Cuba. Do they all misunderstand the way the world works? Or, is this war a last resort, the lesser of two evils. One thing is certain the price of everything is about to go sky high (that happened to an astounding extent in a few months to everything from cans to cars when Trump merely sanctioned a Russian aluminum company). I don't think Putin is happy about doing this at all, because no one can foresee the outcome. Nor do I think that the West should give Russia everything it's leadership are demanding, but there ought to be some compromise. When Putin was a kid in a dilapidated cardboard walled apartment block he used to catch rats. He said it was a bad idea to obviously corner the rat, because when it understood it had no way out, it would turn and fight. Like rats, the Russians are still around, many peoples in history have disappeared so maybe states like animals are a type of survival machine that does not overthink it when at bay.
    , @Sam Haysom
    @Jack D

    This is round two. Round 1 was when the CIA swiped Ukraine from Putin for like 5 million bucks during the Olympic Games. Putin is now gonna spend 5 billion and complete international vilification rectifying that. Lol what a brilliant strategist. Boomer paleos are reaching Hotep levels of delusion in the praise of Putin. Makes them look so low IQ and weak.

  139. @Steve Sailer
    @rebel yell

    "Sounds pretty Nazi to me."

    And the President of Ukraine is Jewish, so it ALL IT FITS TOGETHER.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Mr. Anon, @LarryS, @Sean, @The Craw, @Ken52, @Dumbo, @cad, @MGB, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Real people are getting killed so fat shits can masturbate their egos. Probably no decent people think this is fit for making jokes about it. Maybe call on that skeez Condaleeza and get her deer-in-the-headlights analysis of legitimate defensive war versus illiegitimate defensive war.

  140. @Ken52
    There are definitely Neo-Nazi forces that are part of the Ukraine Military.
    https://youtu.be/zwynHUEPo54

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Paperback Writer

    This is true.

    It’s so weird. The far-right should really be supporting Ukraine against the Slavic untermenschen.

    I have to laugh at that propaganda piece downgrading the Azov brigade’s true colors. They are Nazis.

    https://forward.com/opinion/416751/why-does-no-one-care-that-neo-nazis-are-gaining-power-in-ukraine/

  141. @Anon7
    Hey, here’s an invasion story for you:

    The U.S. population of legal immigrants and illegal migrants hit 46.6 million in January, up roughly 1.6 million since President Joe Biden was inaugurated, according to federal data posted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

    “The 46.6 million immigrants (legal and illegal) in the country in January 2022 is the largest number recorded in any government survey or decennial census going back to 1850,” the CIS says in a report released on February 23.

    Breitbart
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Sick 'n Tired

    Not sure how they claim 1.6 million since Biden, when they said 2.? million entered the country in the first 10 months Biden was in office. Those are just the ones we caught and kind of know about.

  142. @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I suspect Putin would have been quite willing to take back the Russian peopled regions of Crimea and the Donbass, get a “no NATO” security guarantee form the rest and the West and take a victory lap.

    I'm sure your insight is impeccable on this point.

    Replies: @Sean

    Someone who has a little expertise.

    He says war follows a power law, and big wars are getting more common. War within an international order are getting less common while wars between international orders are more common, and destructive. He also says wars have a far greater escalatory tendency than is generally realized.

    Stephen Walt has a article called The West Is Sleepwalking Into War in Ukraine

    It’s not easy to make sense of how the United States and Europe are responding to Russia’s aggression.

  143. @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Granted, Vladimir Putin is a former intelligence officer, so his ability to marshal facts and remember details must be well above average, but even so, his annual 4 hour long public Q&A sessions are sui generis.

    I can't recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics.

    https://youtu.be/_CSpnWd90_w

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

    Putin turns 70 this year. How long is he going to be able to keep this up?

    Putin had better be in command of all the facts, because he makes every important decision. Such concentration of decision making is not healthy. No matter how wise Putin is, it’s beyond the capability of one man. And whoever comes next will likely be much less capable – dictators can’t stand having anyone but yes men around them. Putin’s humiliation of his cabinet on live TV seemed like a masterful performance but it betrayed organizational weakness rather than Putin’s strength. His cabinet consists of his ex-bodyguard, his ex-chef, etc. because these are people he can push around.

    Stalin ended up dying in a puddle of his own urine because treating his health was an important decision that only he could make but he was unconscious and so couldn’t make it so he couldn’t receive any treatment – Catch 22.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D

    Yeah. It's a good thing we have capable people over here waiting to take over.


    https://drhurd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/HarrisKamala.png

  144. @Twinkie
    @Harry Baldwin


    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.
     
    Everything in the news in this country is Holocaust morality play.

    There is a Holocaust Memorial right in the imperial capital - and in just about every city of size - as a reminder to all right-thinking Americans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @Brutusale

    The Rwandan genocide seems completely forgotten these days. I wonder why.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @JMcG

    For the same reason that the Russian shelling of the Chechen city of Grozny for several months was never extensively reported - no CNN libtards there to transmit carefully staged victim pictures complete with undamaged Elmo dolls.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxYvzVxJtYM

  145. @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

    > Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    Jack D, your assessment is correct but incomplete.

    I commend this essay by Richard Hanania to Steve’s readers, posted last night on Substack. I wish it wasn’t so.

    For my own scorecard, I’ll parrot what Saagar Enjeti just tweeted.

    Accountability: Given the track record of US intelligence, I did not believe their maximalist claims and did not believe that Putin would so flagrantly break the world order with this crime of an invasion. I was wrong.

    Wiser people than me have been forecasting the past days’ events for weeks and even months, based on their appreciations of open-source information.

    Could this have been averted if Tulsi Gabbard’s apprehensions had been heeded? We’ll never know, but I think the answer is, Probably.

    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @ic1000

    Good for Saagar to own up. He and Krystal have been really good on this (and most everything else) but thought that the Biden administration was hyping up the Ukraine crisis based on flimsy "intelligence". So we have to admit now that US sources were correct all along in this instance. But as Jack or someone else here said yesterday, if Russia was going to absorb tremendous Western sanctions anyway, it makes sense to go whole hog and take all of Ukraine via a puppet state and maybe some eventual merger.

    , @Wokechoke
    @ic1000

    There’s probably loot in Ukraine. Not least the food supply.

    , @Jack D
    @ic1000

    Hanania is delusional if he thinks that a world order which includes Russia and China would be more humane than one with the US as the sole superpower. Putin and Xi would consider being called "humane" to be an insult.

  146. @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

    You underestimate how sick, weak and overextended the US/West is. The Ukraine was A Bridge Too Far.

    We’ve maxed out our credit cards, gained weight, and are still acting like a bully. Russia has every right and reason to do this and to turn toward China.

    It’s not a question of “How does conquering Ukraine change this?” When “this” is a threatening scenario brought about by American manipulation. The government of The Ukraine is an illegitimate one brought about by an American coup in a corrupt country right next door to the rest of Russia.

    Don’t be distracted. Watch China, Russia and the world financial markets. Watch oil, and make note of how the US now will call in its chips in Saudi Arabia (now that domestically “our” government has restricted our ability to be energy independent.}

    All of this is regressive and puts the same old bastards back into the driver’s seat on the American bus.. The difference is that it will ultimately lead to a Russia/China/Eurasia domination of the world economy and the fall of the United States from its present leadership position in the world. The times are-a-changing.

    So far, though, you are correct in the sense that our European poodles are still on the leash and behaving themselves…

  147. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with almost all of your comment, but…


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.
     
    This isn’t quite true. Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators. It is as with the French - most collaborated with the (erstwhile) winner, but all were “Resistance all along” after the war.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    The Thais were formally allied with the Japanese during the Second World War.

  148. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways ...
     
    As quite reasonably so.

    They'd been treated poorly by the Commies--including a starved in a massive famine--and probably thought "let's get out from under those assholes!" (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i've mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of "nationalism" but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought "these Germans can't be any worse than the commies".)

    Replies: @Twinkie, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox

    The Japanese got almost no one on board.

    Russia
    Post-Russian Civil War, White Russians fought on the side of Japan against the Reds. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo_Imperial_Army#Asano_Brigade)

    Japanese annexation of Manchuria was in part a reaction to Soviets having essentially done the same to Mongolia, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Revolution_of_1921)

    Manchuria
    Manchukuo was a pretty real country, of having GDP per capita on par with 19th CE US. The last Manchu Qing emperor Aisin-Gioro Puyi flied to Kwantung Army after his ancestor Qianlong Emperor’s mausoleum was looted by Han warlord Sun Dianying. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looting_of_the_Eastern_Mausoleum)

    There’s a precedent for this in 13th CE, when the last Mongol Yuan Emperor, after getting thrown out of Beijing by Han rebel Zhu Yuanzhang, flied north to the steppes but still kept a Northern Yuan polity for a couple of centuries.

    China (south of Great Wall)
    After the death of Sun Yat-sen, the head of KMT was thought to be equally Chiang Kai-shek, and Wang Jingwei. In many ways Wang was considered a more righteous character than Chiang (motto: never hesitate to cooperate with an enemy or betray a friend).

    View post on imgur.com


    The Greater East Asia Conference in November 1943, participants left to right: Ba Maw, Zhang Jinghui, Wang Jingwei, Hideki Tojo, Wan Waithayakon, José P. Laurel, and Subhas Chandra Bose

    Wang considered cooperating with the Japanese to be no worse than Chiang was with Anglos and Mao was with Soviets.

    Both Germany and Japan wanted to cooperate with Chiang against Soviets and then nascent CPC. But Chiang’s statesmanship was, in correctly perceiving that–

    1. The Axis would lose to the Anglos in the long run,

    2. The Japanese cannot be relied upon to deal with– because they had a dysfunctional leadership where the civilian government had little control over the Kwantung Army, and that they would fail to align their strategic and tactical goals.

  149. @Nathan
    Don't give the Chinese ideas. We should have supported Chiang Kai-shek, but communist infiltration ensured we didn't. They'll be calling him a Nazi soon enough.

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-heroes/images/4/46/Chiang_Kai-shek.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200331213728

    Replies: @Hbd investor

    We did offer to help Chiang Kai shek

    We wanted him to divide china in half, south china vs north china one half for himself and the other half for mao in exchange the US would send boots on the ground

    The US held back aid hoping that Chiang would capitulate but Chiang would rather lose than have a divided china

    The reality is that is Chiang won, China would still be our enemy, just like China was our enemy before WW2

    The cold War was always about dismembering large rival states and not actually about communism vs capitalism

    The US sought to use capitalism vs communism to split states in half like Vietnam, Korea etc…

  150. @Alfa158
    Martha Radditz, David Muir’s magnificent hairdo, and their retired military consultants were just on with a special bulletin that Russian armored columns are racing across Ukraine, cruise missile strikes are in progress, and Martha in Kiev can hear the explosions from the air strikes and artillery.
    How come I can’t find this breaking news anywhere else?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anon, @Jack D

    What is your point? That there is no invasion? That was yesterday’s phony talking point. Please keep up with the party line. RT will keep you up to date on what you should be saying today.

    Today’s line is that Putin will decide when Ukraine offensive ends. In order for the offensive to end, it has to have begun already, no?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550466-putin-ukraine-opeartion-goals/

    The article states:

    The Russian military launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Putin’s order right after his televised address. The defense ministry said it was targeting elements of the Ukrainian military infrastructure and sought to avoid civilian casualties. Multiple reports from the ground said apparent Russian strikes throughout Ukraine have caused damage to military bases, weapons depots and some arms factories.

    Since RT said it, it’s OK for you to believe it. So it turns out that those “military exercises” really were a preparation for a war and that the Kremlin was lying when they said they weren’t. I’m so shocked – when has the Kremlin ever lied before?

    • Agree: Nathan
    • Replies: @utu
    @Jack D

    Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids. After all it seems Hillary was onto something with those Russians and Trump. Also look at articles that Ron Unz is promoting: Mike Whitney, Diane Johnson, Pepe Escobar, Andrew Anglin as if all graduates of Lubyanka Academy of Shilling and Disinformation were here. And this comment by Ron Unz should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easy it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking.


    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-175/#comment-5179657

    "Putin strikes me as a very sober-minded, cautious, and pragmatic individual. I suspect he and his advisors would regard the analysis presented as total lunacy…"

    "But on a more serious note, Karlin’s essay did include mention that the Russian media has exhibited a total absence of any war-propaganda. Russia is certainly a semi-democracy and we’re talking about launching the biggest European military action since WWII, arguably the biggest war anywhere since 1945, even with some risk of a nuclear confrontation. Putin would have to be totally insane not to have laid any groundwork with his population."

    "If Putin doesn’t invade, he makes the American MSM and government look like total lunatics,"

    "If Putin hasn’t invaded in another week or two, I think lots of people should start reconsidering their media sources and their heavy reliance on Twitter."
     

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Emil Nikola Richard, @HA

    , @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    Yeah, there's an invasion, a real one. The Russians are knocking out the Uke Navy in Odessa. Odessa.

    What's your point? That's it's bad? I agree.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  151. Wait, I’m confused … the Russkies are the baddies and the Ukro-Nazis are the goodies?

    BTW, doesn’t the US owe the Russians for a few assists starting with keeping the Brits out of the US Civil War?

  152. @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    P.J. O’Rourke once had it this way: You don’t win much today via war because territory does make no big difference. His major example was Singapur: No territory, all riches. His conclusion: “War does not work any longer. (…) Modern nations do not triumph by conquering foreign territories and by bringing foeign people under their control.” – It’s productivity that matters now, he concludes (in The Multicultural Society – Bosnia 1992 – his unbelieveably good essay/reportage hybrid about the Balkan wars – a masterpiece (one of the texts of our times that could well be read hundred years from now – studied & admired too).

    • Replies: @houston 1992
    @Dieter Kief

    By seizing the Ukraine, RU is now the OPEC of food controlling 30% of world wheat market, 20% of corn.
    Putin now gives himself more strategic depth.

    Nordstream 2 pipeline: will the Germans turn it one, or not? hardly matters now as RU will control the pipelines that run across the Ukraine with no more risk of excess siphoning or transit fees.

    Seizing land and making ones country an even stronger commodity super power seems useful in the real world of things. You cannot make semiconductor chips without Russian Neon gas for litho and lasers, package the parts without scarce Palladium. Boeing is reliant on a RU supplier for Titanium and Aluminum and apparently the geniuses who run the strategic metal reserve have allowed Titanium inventory to approach zero. Finding new supplies and requalifying the refining process to meet stringent QA specifications is not a short or simple task

    We still live in a material world where matter, chemistry , Newtonian physics rule. As Elon Musk told Joe Rogan "if you want things then you need to make things." If you want a country then one needs to control ones borders.
    I suppose one could call this point of view

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Craken
    @Dieter Kief

    Territory makes no difference to non-sovereign toy countries like Singapore. To sovereign countries it still matters, because physical resources matter in maintaining actual sovereignty. Singapore exists at the pleasure of the Globalist American Empire. Russia and China exist in spite of the GAE. They are sovereign. But, without continental scale territory they could not long sustain true independence of the global hegemon.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  153. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways ...
     
    As quite reasonably so.

    They'd been treated poorly by the Commies--including a starved in a massive famine--and probably thought "let's get out from under those assholes!" (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i've mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of "nationalism" but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought "these Germans can't be any worse than the commies".)

    Replies: @Twinkie, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox

    The Japanese got almost no one on board.

    Future leaders of Burma, Indonesia, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan all worked for Imperial Japan – Aung San, Ne Win, Sukarno, Suharto, Lee Kuan Yew, Park Chung-hee and Lee Teng-hui. And these were just the big names.

  154. @ic1000
    As of 7:30am EST, this is a livestreamed war. Russia has decided to leave Ukraine's cell service and internet alone. Webcams at border crossings have been streaming images of vehicles streaming into the country.

    Here is Rob Lee on Twitter posting a cell-phone video of a helicopter-mounted air assault near Kyiv, about an hour ago.

    So the Russians believe they have already achieved air supremacy, at least around the capital.

    Presumably the motives for open-access are (1) Convince the Ukrainian military and civilians that it's hopeless, give up rather than throwing your life away; (2) Remind the West what bear-baiting really means.

    Presumably also, the Russians have a timetable. Cellphones, landlines, the internet, and perhaps electricity are likely to go down fairly soon, for the tactical advantages.

    8 hours ago, Tulsi Gabbard tweeted,


    This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border.
     
    3 hours later, Richard Hanania·commented,

    Everyone dunking on this tweet shows what is wrong with how the political class thinks about foreign policy. Those supporting NATO expansion have been the ones in charge, not Tulsi. The anti-interventionists told you where our reckless foreign policy was going, and were right.
     
    Today is a disaster for our country and for Franz Josef's reign. But a happy day for Škoda Works.

    Replies: @Director95

    Globo-homo foreign policy and militarist war drums = \$100/bbl oil. Could go higher.
    Put NATO on a leash or shut it down.

    American border>>>>>Ukraine border.

  155. @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    Jack D, your assessment is correct but incomplete.

    I commend this essay by Richard Hanania to Steve's readers, posted last night on Substack. I wish it wasn't so.

    For my own scorecard, I'll parrot what Saagar Enjeti just tweeted.


    Accountability: Given the track record of US intelligence, I did not believe their maximalist claims and did not believe that Putin would so flagrantly break the world order with this crime of an invasion. I was wrong.
     
    Wiser people than me have been forecasting the past days' events for weeks and even months, based on their appreciations of open-source information.

    Could this have been averted if Tulsi Gabbard's apprehensions had been heeded? We'll never know, but I think the answer is, Probably.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    Good for Saagar to own up. He and Krystal have been really good on this (and most everything else) but thought that the Biden administration was hyping up the Ukraine crisis based on flimsy “intelligence”. So we have to admit now that US sources were correct all along in this instance. But as Jack or someone else here said yesterday, if Russia was going to absorb tremendous Western sanctions anyway, it makes sense to go whole hog and take all of Ukraine via a puppet state and maybe some eventual merger.

  156. Poor Ukraine doesn’t have a powerful, woke military defending it – like we do:

  157. It’s about high time that someone declared war against the most vicious regime of the 20th century.

  158. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    What is your point? That there is no invasion? That was yesterday's phony talking point. Please keep up with the party line. RT will keep you up to date on what you should be saying today.

    Today's line is that Putin will decide when Ukraine offensive ends. In order for the offensive to end, it has to have begun already, no?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550466-putin-ukraine-opeartion-goals/

    The article states:


    The Russian military launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Putin’s order right after his televised address. The defense ministry said it was targeting elements of the Ukrainian military infrastructure and sought to avoid civilian casualties. Multiple reports from the ground said apparent Russian strikes throughout Ukraine have caused damage to military bases, weapons depots and some arms factories.
     
    Since RT said it, it's OK for you to believe it. So it turns out that those "military exercises" really were a preparation for a war and that the Kremlin was lying when they said they weren't. I'm so shocked - when has the Kremlin ever lied before?

    Replies: @utu, @Alfa158, @Paperback Writer

    Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids. After all it seems Hillary was onto something with those Russians and Trump. Also look at articles that Ron Unz is promoting: Mike Whitney, Diane Johnson, Pepe Escobar, Andrew Anglin as if all graduates of Lubyanka Academy of Shilling and Disinformation were here. And this comment by Ron Unz should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easy it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-175/#comment-5179657

    “Putin strikes me as a very sober-minded, cautious, and pragmatic individual. I suspect he and his advisors would regard the analysis presented as total lunacy…”

    “But on a more serious note, Karlin’s essay did include mention that the Russian media has exhibited a total absence of any war-propaganda. Russia is certainly a semi-democracy and we’re talking about launching the biggest European military action since WWII, arguably the biggest war anywhere since 1945, even with some risk of a nuclear confrontation. Putin would have to be totally insane not to have laid any groundwork with his population.”

    “If Putin doesn’t invade, he makes the American MSM and government look like total lunatics,”

    “If Putin hasn’t invaded in another week or two, I think lots of people should start reconsidering their media sources and their heavy reliance on Twitter.”

    • LOL: Mike Tre
    • Troll: Kronos
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @utu

    Here’s the thing. This invasion by Russia did not happen while Trump was in office. Even when he was at a low ebb while defeated in 2020. This is Biden’s bag. How long can his inadequacy be covered up?

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @utu

    You can mine anybody's comments, find something stupid, and insult them. Anybody. He is our host. Your shot is cheap. And your timing sucks.

    Fooey.

    , @HA
    @utu

    "Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids."

    Yeah, but Putin has, if anything, downgraded his troll-farm contingent this time around. I suppose maybe that's because they're still getting into gear, but during Yanukovych's ouster, they were a lot more active -- and confident. Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they're not even sure of what they're supposed to be saying this time around, and they're just sort of testing the waters.

    At least Putin -- unlike Napoleon -- waited for spring to invade, so he's not THAT stupid. I'll give him credit for at least that. But as to whether the Swedes or the Poles or whatever other dominoes fall out of this line up the way he wants, and all before he dies (or before the next winter sets in), I guess we'll see.

    For now, in the wake of Biden pulling the troops out of Afghanistan (I'm sure we'll get a fair number of "see, what'd I tell you?" tweets from the pundits who were wringing their hands about that), Putin has just tossed the war dogs as big a bone as they could have hoped for. Nuland should send her next batch of pastries to him, out of sheer gratitude.

    Replies: @utu, @Jack D

  159. @JimDandy
    The "Nazis" Putin is taking about are a lot more Nazi than the "Nazis" Frum is talking about.

    "Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police, Schutzmannschaft, in the German military, and serving as concentration camp guards. Nationalists in western Ukraine were among the most enthusiastic and hoped that their efforts would enable them to re-establish an independent state later on.... on the eve of Operation' Barbarossa, as many as 4000 Ukrainians, operating under Wehrmacht orders, sought to cause disruption behind Soviet lines. After the capture of Lviv, a highly-contentious and strategically-important city with a significant Ukrainian minority, OUN leaders proclaimed a new Ukrainian State on June 30, 1941 and simultaneously encouraged loyalty to the new regime in the hope that they would be supported by the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Fluesterwitz, @Exile, @William Badwhite

    No one including Putin believes that the Azov Battalion are Hitlerian National Socialists.

    They’re the Praetorian Guard for a Jewish comedian who gets his punch lines from America’s Ashkepathic “Ukrainian” diaspora – phoning it in from their “refugee” shelters in the Department of Defense, State Department and American think-tanks.

    Putin is just getting his share of the legitimacy gibs that being “anti-fascist” gets you on today’s world stage. The US and Israel have both been dining out on that card for years – ask Dresden, Nagasaki and Lebanon.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Exile

    I get the gist of what you're saying, but the contemporary Ukie factions who favor Nazi iconography/energy are just philosemites in SS drag? What is the logic of such a ruse?

    Replies: @Exile

  160. @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

    Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia.

    Because they know he is not bluffing and will initiate hostilities. Will the Poles pay more attention to Russian concerns because of this? If Putin says “You may be an sovereign nation but if you put offensive missiles in that base it will be a aganst Russian interests” they are going to listen a bit more respectfully now. The ABM missiles are supposed to guard against nonexistent Iranian nukes don’t forget.

    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    All countries (that are still around) act like this though. The US went to the brink of nuclear war over Cuba. Do they all misunderstand the way the world works? Or, is this war a last resort, the lesser of two evils. One thing is certain the price of everything is about to go sky high (that happened to an astounding extent in a few months to everything from cans to cars when Trump merely sanctioned a Russian aluminum company). I don’t think Putin is happy about doing this at all, because no one can foresee the outcome. Nor do I think that the West should give Russia everything it’s leadership are demanding, but there ought to be some compromise. When Putin was a kid in a dilapidated cardboard walled apartment block he used to catch rats. He said it was a bad idea to obviously corner the rat, because when it understood it had no way out, it would turn and fight. Like rats, the Russians are still around, many peoples in history have disappeared so maybe states like animals are a type of survival machine that does not overthink it when at bay.

  161. @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    > Arm the Ukrainian military and the Ukrainian resistance.

    Dear Dave,

    About that armed resistance to the overwhelming might and technical superiority of a ruthless adversary.

    The TFR for Afghanistan is 4.7 children born per woman (2021 estimate). For Ukraine, it's 1.6.

    Somehow I don't think that reflecting on these facts will have any effect on what your keyboard contributes to Twitter.

    Let's you and him fight.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Paperback Writer

    They don’t call him Vichy French for nothing.

  162. We can never get the truth about what is going on, as the media on both sides will only give us a line of wartime propaganda.

    George Orwell knew of what he spoke, because during World War II, he was employed for a while by the BBC to write and broadcast propaganda aimed at an audience in India.

    I always like to get both sides of the story and according to Sputnik News Putin intervened to stop Ukrainian forces bombing separatists in Donetsk, with air strikes aimed at military targets with the intention of disarming the “fascist forces” of Ukraine and protecting civilians.

    https://sputniknews.com/20220224/russian-mod-precision-weapons-used-to-neutralise-military-infrastructure-and-air-forces-of-ukraine-1093321077.html

    Meanwhile the venerable Daily Mail in England–which has an elderly readership–leads with pictures of elderly Ukrainians with bloody faces.

    Is the Ukrainian government really fascist, you may ask?

    The trouble is that Russia now officially recognizes DPR and the LPR as independent states, but Ukraine regards them as areas of its territory controlled by terrorists.

    Donetsk was founded in 1869 by a Welsh businessman called John Hughes and the city was originally named after him.

    The relationship between the Donbas and Ukraine remains somewhat similar to that of Wales to England, except that the Welsh have settled for minor victories like road signs in Welsh, with relatively minor disputes such as whether the Welsh wording should come first.

    When communist federations break up, for example in the case of Yugoslavia, which comprised Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia, Kosovo, etc. there is bound to be a period of some years, or some decades before borders of territories disputed by warlike tribes settle down.

    Looks like the same deal in Ukraine. When it became independent Ukraine ended up in possession of Crimea and Sevastopol, which has a population that is 2/3 Russians. Guess what, it didn’t work. Some places are at a crossroads and are constantly changing hands. In 1944 huge numbers of Tatars were deported from Crimea, and then Russians became a majority in a place where ethnic cleansing, pogroms, and deportations have been going on for at least 2000 years.

    In another regional crossroads, Jerusalem, where East meets West…

    • Agree: Prester John
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Yugoslavia, which comprised Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia, Kosovo, etc.
     
    "Etc."? There's more?

    Well, you left out Liberland:

    https://liberland.org/en/about



    https://liberland.org/en/assets/images/about/mapa2.png
  163. (“Out of Control” video from Red October. 13 seconds)

    I will be quantitative, and assign the nuclear scenario a 10% possibility. Incompetence, Blinkin-thinkin’, systems error, and the psychodynamic (i.e., unconscious) slice of mental mental activity, all at work.

  164. It really does get sillier and sillier with time.

    And what’s up with this endless fascination with the regime of The Bohemian Corporal? I mean, really, they can’t get enough of this guy! People like that–and their numbers are legion in this country–quite frankly creep me out.

  165. @AKAHorace
    and Trump just announced

    Former US President Donald Trump took to the airwaves on Fox News as the Russian offensive began on Wednesday night US time to argue that it "wouldn't have taken place" during his administration.
     
    Even if completely true, this is not the time to say this. An invasion of the Ukraine, that could lead to something much bigger is not primarily a reelection opportunity. David Cole is right about Trump, he is a disaster for the American right.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Redman, @Curle, @Wokechoke

    It didn’t happen while he was in charge. Did it? It happened while Biden was in charge. And I might add Biden was building up Ukraine like personal fiefdom. He’s a big factor in why this war is starting.

  166. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    What is your point? That there is no invasion? That was yesterday's phony talking point. Please keep up with the party line. RT will keep you up to date on what you should be saying today.

    Today's line is that Putin will decide when Ukraine offensive ends. In order for the offensive to end, it has to have begun already, no?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550466-putin-ukraine-opeartion-goals/

    The article states:


    The Russian military launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Putin’s order right after his televised address. The defense ministry said it was targeting elements of the Ukrainian military infrastructure and sought to avoid civilian casualties. Multiple reports from the ground said apparent Russian strikes throughout Ukraine have caused damage to military bases, weapons depots and some arms factories.
     
    Since RT said it, it's OK for you to believe it. So it turns out that those "military exercises" really were a preparation for a war and that the Kremlin was lying when they said they weren't. I'm so shocked - when has the Kremlin ever lied before?

    Replies: @utu, @Alfa158, @Paperback Writer

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Alfa158


    Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.
     
    Well here in NY you can forget the plight of those poor hate-crimed Asians, because every reporter is frantically scouring the Lower East Side desperately looking to interview some Ukrainian-American
    , @ic1000
    @Alfa158

    Phillippe Lemoine mirrors your thoughts.


    It's striking how, depending on which accounts I check, I get a totally different picture of the military situation. I don't know who is right, although my prior is that Russia will easily win, but that's the thing: I have to rely on a prior despite the abundance of information...

    My guess is that, if you have enough background knowledge, Twitter makes it much easier to know what's going on today than in the past, but for someone like me it doesn't really seem to be true, or much less than one might have thought, and I find that kind of baffling.
     

    With that (huge) caveat, here are some Twitter threads that are relaying near-real-time reports.
    Nolan Peterson, a reporter in Kyiv.
    Max Seddon, Financial Times' Moscow bureau chief.
    Rob Lee, US-based PhD student.
    Dmitri Alperovitch, US-based cybersecurity guy.

    My overall impression is that the Ukrainian army has been fighting back in places (e.g. knocking out some tanks, downing some aircraft), but that the Russians dominate the battlespace due to their qualitative and quantitative superiority (as most observers had predicted). The Russians are probably advancing according to their timetable, to the end game that they desire. There will be no "plucky underdog" plot twist to this phase of the invasion.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Putin doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet ("denazified") regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state - the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Alden, @Paperback Writer, @JonJon

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Alfa158


    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage .
     
    They turned the Internet off. Invest in a VPN.
    , @Stan Adams
    @Alfa158

    Here's yet another example of how pathetic the mainstream media have become.

    My local newspaper offered a deal where I could get home delivery of the dead-tree edition for $1 a month, so I figured, "Why not? I can always use it to wipe my ass."

    I wasn't able to retrieve the paper until noon today. I imagined the front page would be dominated by a huge banner headline: "WAR IN UKRAINE! PUTIN SLAUGHTERS DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN! EUROPE IN CRISIS AS RUSSIA ATTACKS!"

    Instead, this is what I found:



    https://i.ibb.co/VVM256H/BC77-D5-F7-2878-48-A2-A9-A1-F7-F73-E07-AE46.jpg

    Nothing.

    The invasion news broke shortly after 10 p.m. (Eastern). Historically, the morning paper was put to bed between 11 p.m. and midnight. Nowadays, who knows?

  167. @utu
    @Jack D

    Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids. After all it seems Hillary was onto something with those Russians and Trump. Also look at articles that Ron Unz is promoting: Mike Whitney, Diane Johnson, Pepe Escobar, Andrew Anglin as if all graduates of Lubyanka Academy of Shilling and Disinformation were here. And this comment by Ron Unz should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easy it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking.


    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-175/#comment-5179657

    "Putin strikes me as a very sober-minded, cautious, and pragmatic individual. I suspect he and his advisors would regard the analysis presented as total lunacy…"

    "But on a more serious note, Karlin’s essay did include mention that the Russian media has exhibited a total absence of any war-propaganda. Russia is certainly a semi-democracy and we’re talking about launching the biggest European military action since WWII, arguably the biggest war anywhere since 1945, even with some risk of a nuclear confrontation. Putin would have to be totally insane not to have laid any groundwork with his population."

    "If Putin doesn’t invade, he makes the American MSM and government look like total lunatics,"

    "If Putin hasn’t invaded in another week or two, I think lots of people should start reconsidering their media sources and their heavy reliance on Twitter."
     

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Emil Nikola Richard, @HA

    Here’s the thing. This invasion by Russia did not happen while Trump was in office. Even when he was at a low ebb while defeated in 2020. This is Biden’s bag. How long can his inadequacy be covered up?

  168. @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    Jack D, your assessment is correct but incomplete.

    I commend this essay by Richard Hanania to Steve's readers, posted last night on Substack. I wish it wasn't so.

    For my own scorecard, I'll parrot what Saagar Enjeti just tweeted.


    Accountability: Given the track record of US intelligence, I did not believe their maximalist claims and did not believe that Putin would so flagrantly break the world order with this crime of an invasion. I was wrong.
     
    Wiser people than me have been forecasting the past days' events for weeks and even months, based on their appreciations of open-source information.

    Could this have been averted if Tulsi Gabbard's apprehensions had been heeded? We'll never know, but I think the answer is, Probably.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    There’s probably loot in Ukraine. Not least the food supply.

  169. Big Media has recently resurrected the comment made by Vlad to Wee Georgie Jr. back in 2008 or so to the effect that the Ukraine is not even a country. Russia and the Ukraine have been battling each other for four hundred years and surely there was no reason to think that they would stop after the Cold War ended, and in any event what in heaven’s name can the US do about it anyway? Putin knows this, which is why he is emboldened.

  170. @PhysicistDave
    FoxNews just aired an interview with retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis who made the same point a number of us here have been making: the ruling elite in the West has really, really screwed up how they have dealt with Russia in the last three decades.

    Peter Htichens has a column up on The Daily Mail making the same point.

    In coming days, we are going to be deluged with a flood of propaganda from the US regime claiming that those of us who point out how the Western ruling elites have screwed this up are somehow secret tools of Putin.

    We're not. We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Russian troops have crossed the Belorussian border, apparently heading for Kiev. The residents of Kiev are fleeing the city. Russia seems to have stopped the bombardment around Kiev, now that they have taken out local military assets and command and control capabilities, and are saying that they have no desire to attack civilian populations.

    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.

    Now, anyone want to bet on how soon Zelensky -- the Stephen Colbert of the Ukraine -- flees the country?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr Mox, @James J O'Meara

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Agree! But at least we Europeans now know who run our foreign policy. The image of an immense diplomatic failure will linger long after our current crop of Churchill-wannabees have faded away.

  171. @Percival
    Sometimes it feels like these things are planned in advance and everyone has already agreed to what's going to happen.
    Putin: Hello, Joe? When is the pandemic ending, again?
    Joe's intern: After the Olympics.
    Putin: Ok, well we're gonna take a few more chunks of Ukraine around that time.
    Intern: Good to know; we'll give the public a few weeks to prime them.
    Putin: Give my regards to the President.
    Intern: He doesn't even remember who you are.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Intern: He doesn’t even remember who you are.

    “…the Russian guy, the guy with the shirt, Pootie Tang, man. He’s a bad dude. We got to come together, man, get this guy.”

    https://news.grabien.com/story-my-fellow-jamaicans-comedian-kyle-dunnigans-hilarious-biden

  172. @utu
    @Jack D

    Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids. After all it seems Hillary was onto something with those Russians and Trump. Also look at articles that Ron Unz is promoting: Mike Whitney, Diane Johnson, Pepe Escobar, Andrew Anglin as if all graduates of Lubyanka Academy of Shilling and Disinformation were here. And this comment by Ron Unz should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easy it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking.


    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-175/#comment-5179657

    "Putin strikes me as a very sober-minded, cautious, and pragmatic individual. I suspect he and his advisors would regard the analysis presented as total lunacy…"

    "But on a more serious note, Karlin’s essay did include mention that the Russian media has exhibited a total absence of any war-propaganda. Russia is certainly a semi-democracy and we’re talking about launching the biggest European military action since WWII, arguably the biggest war anywhere since 1945, even with some risk of a nuclear confrontation. Putin would have to be totally insane not to have laid any groundwork with his population."

    "If Putin doesn’t invade, he makes the American MSM and government look like total lunatics,"

    "If Putin hasn’t invaded in another week or two, I think lots of people should start reconsidering their media sources and their heavy reliance on Twitter."
     

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Emil Nikola Richard, @HA

    You can mine anybody’s comments, find something stupid, and insult them. Anybody. He is our host. Your shot is cheap. And your timing sucks.

    Fooey.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  173. God bless President Vladimir Putin, the only world leader who refuses to worship sodomy and child sex abuse!!

    Slava!

  174. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Well here in NY you can forget the plight of those poor hate-crimed Asians, because every reporter is frantically scouring the Lower East Side desperately looking to interview some Ukrainian-American

  175. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    Phillippe Lemoine mirrors your thoughts.

    It’s striking how, depending on which accounts I check, I get a totally different picture of the military situation. I don’t know who is right, although my prior is that Russia will easily win, but that’s the thing: I have to rely on a prior despite the abundance of information…

    My guess is that, if you have enough background knowledge, Twitter makes it much easier to know what’s going on today than in the past, but for someone like me it doesn’t really seem to be true, or much less than one might have thought, and I find that kind of baffling.

    With that (huge) caveat, here are some Twitter threads that are relaying near-real-time reports.
    Nolan Peterson, a reporter in Kyiv.
    Max Seddon, Financial Times’ Moscow bureau chief.
    Rob Lee, US-based PhD student.
    Dmitri Alperovitch, US-based cybersecurity guy.

    My overall impression is that the Ukrainian army has been fighting back in places (e.g. knocking out some tanks, downing some aircraft), but that the Russians dominate the battlespace due to their qualitative and quantitative superiority (as most observers had predicted). The Russians are probably advancing according to their timetable, to the end game that they desire. There will be no “plucky underdog” plot twist to this phase of the invasion.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @ic1000

    Here is a little more information. Again this is vague, not much real footage and it is of course the Russian spin:
    https://youtu.be/3lTOjlQqxnE
    What I deduce is that there are two things going on, at least so far.
    The obvious one is targeted strikes to reduce the Ukrainian military capability, rather like a much less powerful version of the shock and awe campaigns against Iraq and Serbia.
    The second thing is, maybe, ground offensives to push the separatist territory out past the line of conflict in the Donbass. I say maybe because there was no visual on it, in this video, just a report, and the fact that the Ukrainian shelling seems to have stopped. It may be just a rumor of war like the purported Russian landings in Odessa which have now been retracted, but that could be at least one source for reports of ground combat.

    Replies: @ic1000, @JonJon

  176. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Spot-on! Liked the comments about Wilson, FDR and Reagan. The office of POTUS in and of itself is meaningless. As always it depends upon who is behind the desk and the kind of people under him. As to Biden I still think it’s even money that he won’t make it to 2024. A pity that his successor is doesn’t seem to know which end is up.

    Putin sees how weak and flaccid the US is at present, which is why he feels he can get away with what he is doing. And what he is doing is, as far as he is concerned, in accordance with the interests of HIS country–not the United States.

  177. China totally behind its ally:

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  178. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    What is your point? That there is no invasion? That was yesterday's phony talking point. Please keep up with the party line. RT will keep you up to date on what you should be saying today.

    Today's line is that Putin will decide when Ukraine offensive ends. In order for the offensive to end, it has to have begun already, no?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550466-putin-ukraine-opeartion-goals/

    The article states:


    The Russian military launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Putin’s order right after his televised address. The defense ministry said it was targeting elements of the Ukrainian military infrastructure and sought to avoid civilian casualties. Multiple reports from the ground said apparent Russian strikes throughout Ukraine have caused damage to military bases, weapons depots and some arms factories.
     
    Since RT said it, it's OK for you to believe it. So it turns out that those "military exercises" really were a preparation for a war and that the Kremlin was lying when they said they weren't. I'm so shocked - when has the Kremlin ever lied before?

    Replies: @utu, @Alfa158, @Paperback Writer

    Yeah, there’s an invasion, a real one. The Russians are knocking out the Uke Navy in Odessa. Odessa.

    What’s your point? That’s it’s bad? I agree.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Paperback Writer

    "That's [sic] it's bad? I agree."

    Is it bad to take out an Angl0-American Zionist puppet state like Ukraine? When the Chinese liberate Taipei from the corrupt legacy of Chiang Kai-Shek, the CIA's most successful heroin trafficker, will that be bad? When the stalwarts of Western Civilization finally purge the Gaian Death Cult from its lands will that be terrible? I literally don't know the answer to these questions.

  179. @PhysicistDave
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco wrote to me:


    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.
     
    You mean Zelensky?

    He could after all surrender immediately and allow Putin to set up a new puppet regime to replace the US-backed puppet regime.

    Or do you mean Biden, who could, after all, now announce that in exchange for a ceasefire, we will agree that Ukraine will never be in NATO and that the Donbass will be autonomous?

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    But the hypocrisy of Westerners who condemn Putin but do not condemn similar actions by the USA is simply stunning.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    “The Western elites” – going back to the Clinton administration. Bush the Elder had a competent crew. The rot set in with Clinton, it was all downhill from there.

    Everyone:

    Rob Lee has good info

  180. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    Putin doesn’t want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet (“denazified”) regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state – the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    I would be surprised if the Russians don’t insist on getting Odessa as an outcome of this, both for historical reasons and their goal of locking up control of the northern Black Sea. They were really triggered by the NATO ships cruising around up there with the hardest liners insisting a couple of the ship should have been sunk.

    , @Alden
    @Jack D

    I don’t think Putin is a pariah except to the US Jewish war mongers in power cabal, like Nuland. Europeans and Americans who aren’t part of the war monger cabal know those lands have changed boundaries countless times.

    Russians invaded this AM And now we’ll send White boys to die and black boys to steal military materials. And in 3 years the black boys will be out on emotional distress and sucking up more and more taxpayers money from the VA. And ruining the neighborhoods around the VA hospitals. The “ flaw” in the American welfare system is that most of the benefits go to the disabled and parents. Most of the parents being women. Single adults get very little. But that demographic is now taken care of by the VA. Blacks join up, are out in 3 years and then life king welfare via the VA. .

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D


    I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military

     

    Brilliant, general Jack D! Isn't that what usually happens in war?

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state
     
    In your mind. Except with China. They are backing their ally to the hilt.

    If Russia is now such a pariah, might it not be a good idea for Israel to allow the poor Ukrainians the protection of the Iron Dome?

    As far as sanctions go, time will tell. From what I read, they are toothless. So many exceptions and carve outs they don't bite.

    "doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties"

    Sounds like Hitler to me.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale

    , @JonJon
    @Jack D

    Defeat after humiliating defeat will work to the advantage of Murka and its frens.

  181. @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > Putin is going to win Round 1 – that’s a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

    Jack D, your assessment is correct but incomplete.

    I commend this essay by Richard Hanania to Steve's readers, posted last night on Substack. I wish it wasn't so.

    For my own scorecard, I'll parrot what Saagar Enjeti just tweeted.


    Accountability: Given the track record of US intelligence, I did not believe their maximalist claims and did not believe that Putin would so flagrantly break the world order with this crime of an invasion. I was wrong.
     
    Wiser people than me have been forecasting the past days' events for weeks and even months, based on their appreciations of open-source information.

    Could this have been averted if Tulsi Gabbard's apprehensions had been heeded? We'll never know, but I think the answer is, Probably.

    Replies: @Sam Malone, @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    Hanania is delusional if he thinks that a world order which includes Russia and China would be more humane than one with the US as the sole superpower. Putin and Xi would consider being called “humane” to be an insult.

    • Agree: Professional Slav
  182. I don’t usually bother to read the news off of MSM outlets. Today I made an exception to check the BBC’s coverage. The main page is mostly about the Russia-Ukraine war (or whatever), but there’s still room for important news: black people’s hair. Note the BBC’s failure to capitalize.

    https://www.bbc.com/news

    I tried to get a screen shot, but it didn’t work, so this is a moving target. Bascially, next to a shot of a bloodied Kiev citizen is a link to this article, titled “Why are black Americans being punished for their hair?”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-60498965

  183. @Sean
    @Harry Baldwin


    https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously?utm_source=url Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin The two themes that let the Blob carry the day [...]

    Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:

    "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests"
     
    Burns added that it was “hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership—a move that, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Sean–was over my comment limit last night, but wanted to say “thanks” for the link.

    Recommend to others. Worth reading for a reasonable take, and insight into what more level-headed people on the American diplomatic side. To bad this guy Burns didn’t have Biden’s ear.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AnotherDad

    Yes it really is right on the money. On the other hand, I don't think many people in the US or Ukraine , even generals aware of the intel, seriously believed if he was ignored Putin was going to fulfill his threats with a Soviet Re-Union by tank. Ukrainians thought their biggest problem was corruption> Maybe Steven Pinker is to blame. I got the Burns link from Stephen Walt's Twitter, who is a defensive realist as opposed to Mearsheimer's offensive realism theory. Walt talks a lot of sense from what I have read of him, but unfortunately much of his stuff is behind paywalls.


    Eastern Europe and Russia
    In 2015, Walt wrote that extending invitations for NATO membership to countries in the former Soviet bloc is a "dangerous and unnecessary goal" and that nations such as Ukraine ought to be "neutral buffer state(s) in perpetuity."[18] From that perspective, he believed that arming Ukrainian armed forces after the annexation of the Crimea by Russia "is a recipe for a longer and more destructive conflict."[18]
     
    It has to be said that Mearsheimer is one of the very few who would not be surprised by an all out conventional attack by Russia on Ukraine, because he thinks use of military force is often effective. You have to wonder how on the ball and motivated the Ukrainians were, in view of the capital city's airport being captured by helicopter-borne Russian commandoes. That is more like an anti terrorist operation that something you'd expect to work against a obvious target in a forewarned modern state.
  184. @PhysicistDave
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco wrote to me:


    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he’s not located in any western capital.
     
    You mean Zelensky?

    He could after all surrender immediately and allow Putin to set up a new puppet regime to replace the US-backed puppet regime.

    Or do you mean Biden, who could, after all, now announce that in exchange for a ceasefire, we will agree that Ukraine will never be in NATO and that the Donbass will be autonomous?

    Look: this is not the doing of Putin alone. The Western elites really screwed this up.

    And I can have no respect for anyone who criticizes Putin unless they similarly criticized US actions when the US attacked, invaded, bombed, or conquered so many countries that posed no threat at all to the US: Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Panama, Sudan, and so many others.

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    But the hypocrisy of Westerners who condemn Putin but do not condemn similar actions by the USA is simply stunning.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paperback Writer, @Reg Cæsar

    It is not nice to invade another country.

    We were celebrated for invading France– twice. The world is a hypocrite. Be careful what you ask for.

    Besides, it wasn’t nice to lose half a million men in Europe.

    Typo of the day? (The second one.)

    “But there’s no guarantee the Ukranians will lay [sic] down and let him have their county [sic] passively.” 

    https://redstate.com/dennis_santiago/2022/02/24/analysis-putin-throws-world-peace-into-the-trash-bin-the-world-awaits-bidens-response-n527044

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, the Allies invading France was just like Russia invading Ukraine. Same thing.

    I know that Putin and his defenders love to draw false equivalences but even Putin I don't think compares his invasion to the Allied invasion of France.

    Redrawing boundaries by force can be very effective IF you can make it stick (and are willing to pay the costs of the occupation indefinitely). But it's hard to keep it up forever. Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Also, if there is no "no changing boundaries by force" ground rule , then others can play at your game too. What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    Replies: @neutral, @Twinkie, @nebulafox

    , @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar


    We were celebrated for invading France– twice.
     
    In the immortal words of Tormund Giantbane, "We didn't invade; we were invited."
  185. @ic1000
    @Alfa158

    Phillippe Lemoine mirrors your thoughts.


    It's striking how, depending on which accounts I check, I get a totally different picture of the military situation. I don't know who is right, although my prior is that Russia will easily win, but that's the thing: I have to rely on a prior despite the abundance of information...

    My guess is that, if you have enough background knowledge, Twitter makes it much easier to know what's going on today than in the past, but for someone like me it doesn't really seem to be true, or much less than one might have thought, and I find that kind of baffling.
     

    With that (huge) caveat, here are some Twitter threads that are relaying near-real-time reports.
    Nolan Peterson, a reporter in Kyiv.
    Max Seddon, Financial Times' Moscow bureau chief.
    Rob Lee, US-based PhD student.
    Dmitri Alperovitch, US-based cybersecurity guy.

    My overall impression is that the Ukrainian army has been fighting back in places (e.g. knocking out some tanks, downing some aircraft), but that the Russians dominate the battlespace due to their qualitative and quantitative superiority (as most observers had predicted). The Russians are probably advancing according to their timetable, to the end game that they desire. There will be no "plucky underdog" plot twist to this phase of the invasion.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Here is a little more information. Again this is vague, not much real footage and it is of course the Russian spin:

    What I deduce is that there are two things going on, at least so far.
    The obvious one is targeted strikes to reduce the Ukrainian military capability, rather like a much less powerful version of the shock and awe campaigns against Iraq and Serbia.
    The second thing is, maybe, ground offensives to push the separatist territory out past the line of conflict in the Donbass. I say maybe because there was no visual on it, in this video, just a report, and the fact that the Ukrainian shelling seems to have stopped. It may be just a rumor of war like the purported Russian landings in Odessa which have now been retracted, but that could be at least one source for reports of ground combat.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Alfa158

    Here is a map posted by Michael Kofman, the Director of Russia Studies at the Center for Naval Analysis (Arlington, VA).
    https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1496876298051989504
    It projects Russian occupation of two-thirds of Ukraine, leaving the western portion alone.

    Unclear to me if this would be to leave a buffer rump Ukraine/Galicia bordering Romania, Hungary, and Poland. Seems more likely that it would be the prelude to consolidation and a takeover of the entire country, to be reconstituted with much-reduced territory under a puppet government. From his point of view, Putin has already paid full price, he might as well take everything.

    From a Business Insider story from 2015, here is a map of "Novorossiya,", the Ukrainian oblasts forming the southern third of the country. A landlocked Ukraine without a Black Sea coastline could appeal to Putin.

    , @JonJon
    @Alfa158

    Much less powerful. Much more powerful. Something something something...

  186. So, make sure you conduct your anti-Nazi kinetic actions in a culturally sensitive fashion.

    The term ‘Fascist!’ had already been trashed by 1944 according to Orwell due to it’s abuse/misuse by the radical left and so called ‘progressive’ sort. He wrote an entire essay, ‘What is Fascism’, on the subject.

    It took the same types just a little longer to trash the term ‘Nazi!’. 1946 perhaps?

    Just insert ‘Nazi!’ where ever you see the term ‘Fascist!’ in Orwell’s essay and you’ll get the picture.

    ‘It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.’

    https://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc

  187. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Putin doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet ("denazified") regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state - the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Alden, @Paperback Writer, @JonJon

    I would be surprised if the Russians don’t insist on getting Odessa as an outcome of this, both for historical reasons and their goal of locking up control of the northern Black Sea. They were really triggered by the NATO ships cruising around up there with the hardest liners insisting a couple of the ship should have been sunk.

  188. @Jonathan Mason
    We can never get the truth about what is going on, as the media on both sides will only give us a line of wartime propaganda.

    George Orwell knew of what he spoke, because during World War II, he was employed for a while by the BBC to write and broadcast propaganda aimed at an audience in India.

    I always like to get both sides of the story and according to Sputnik News Putin intervened to stop Ukrainian forces bombing separatists in Donetsk, with air strikes aimed at military targets with the intention of disarming the "fascist forces" of Ukraine and protecting civilians.

    https://sputniknews.com/20220224/russian-mod-precision-weapons-used-to-neutralise-military-infrastructure-and-air-forces-of-ukraine-1093321077.html

    Meanwhile the venerable Daily Mail in England--which has an elderly readership--leads with pictures of elderly Ukrainians with bloody faces.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/24/13/54600645-0-image-m-19_1645708297952.jpg

    Is the Ukrainian government really fascist, you may ask?

    The trouble is that Russia now officially recognizes DPR and the LPR as independent states, but Ukraine regards them as areas of its territory controlled by terrorists.

    Donetsk was founded in 1869 by a Welsh businessman called John Hughes and the city was originally named after him.

    https://www.shukach.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/post_images/24/P5104243.JPG

    The relationship between the Donbas and Ukraine remains somewhat similar to that of Wales to England, except that the Welsh have settled for minor victories like road signs in Welsh, with relatively minor disputes such as whether the Welsh wording should come first.

    https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/resources/images/3066174.jpg

    When communist federations break up, for example in the case of Yugoslavia, which comprised Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia, Kosovo, etc. there is bound to be a period of some years, or some decades before borders of territories disputed by warlike tribes settle down.

    Looks like the same deal in Ukraine. When it became independent Ukraine ended up in possession of Crimea and Sevastopol, which has a population that is 2/3 Russians. Guess what, it didn't work. Some places are at a crossroads and are constantly changing hands. In 1944 huge numbers of Tatars were deported from Crimea, and then Russians became a majority in a place where ethnic cleansing, pogroms, and deportations have been going on for at least 2000 years.

    In another regional crossroads, Jerusalem, where East meets West...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yugoslavia, which comprised Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia, Kosovo, etc.

    “Etc.”? There’s more?

    Well, you left out Liberland:

    https://liberland.org/en/about

  189. Would somebody please gag David Frum?

  190. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage .

    They turned the Internet off. Invest in a VPN.

  191. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways ...
     
    As quite reasonably so.

    They'd been treated poorly by the Commies--including a starved in a massive famine--and probably thought "let's get out from under those assholes!" (Whether or not that was wise is another question. Sometimes all the options suck.)

    As i've mentioned before despite modern Jewish anti-nationalist propaganda this was essentially not a war of "nationalism" but a war of German and Japanese imperialism. (During the War American propaganda was clear on that aspect.) But the Germans and Japanese were taking on the existing imperialisms of Russia, Britain, France, the U.S. as well. And what side various colonized people took often amounted to which people had been imperializing on them lately, hoping to get out from under.

    (The Japanese got almost no one on board. Only the Indian nationalists come to mind. But there were a fair number of people who thought "these Germans can't be any worse than the commies".)

    Replies: @Twinkie, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox

    Stalin had intentionally starved millions of people to death, and the German invasion from WWI was within living memory. I think the Ukrainians can be forgiven for not thinking the Nazis could possibly be worse than what they just lived through.

    It was the Baltic states where the experience of Soviet occupation *really* radicalized people, though. Ukraine was used to living under totalitarian government by 1939. They weren’t. Understanding this is crucial if you want to get why Riga exploded in 1941. People didn’t need much encouragement from the Germans to go after ethnic Russians and Jews.

  192. @utu
    @Jack D

    Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids. After all it seems Hillary was onto something with those Russians and Trump. Also look at articles that Ron Unz is promoting: Mike Whitney, Diane Johnson, Pepe Escobar, Andrew Anglin as if all graduates of Lubyanka Academy of Shilling and Disinformation were here. And this comment by Ron Unz should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easy it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking.


    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-175/#comment-5179657

    "Putin strikes me as a very sober-minded, cautious, and pragmatic individual. I suspect he and his advisors would regard the analysis presented as total lunacy…"

    "But on a more serious note, Karlin’s essay did include mention that the Russian media has exhibited a total absence of any war-propaganda. Russia is certainly a semi-democracy and we’re talking about launching the biggest European military action since WWII, arguably the biggest war anywhere since 1945, even with some risk of a nuclear confrontation. Putin would have to be totally insane not to have laid any groundwork with his population."

    "If Putin doesn’t invade, he makes the American MSM and government look like total lunatics,"

    "If Putin hasn’t invaded in another week or two, I think lots of people should start reconsidering their media sources and their heavy reliance on Twitter."
     

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Emil Nikola Richard, @HA

    “Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids.”

    Yeah, but Putin has, if anything, downgraded his troll-farm contingent this time around. I suppose maybe that’s because they’re still getting into gear, but during Yanukovych’s ouster, they were a lot more active — and confident. Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.

    At least Putin — unlike Napoleon — waited for spring to invade, so he’s not THAT stupid. I’ll give him credit for at least that. But as to whether the Swedes or the Poles or whatever other dominoes fall out of this line up the way he wants, and all before he dies (or before the next winter sets in), I guess we’ll see.

    For now, in the wake of Biden pulling the troops out of Afghanistan (I’m sure we’ll get a fair number of “see, what’d I tell you?” tweets from the pundits who were wringing their hands about that), Putin has just tossed the war dogs as big a bone as they could have hoped for. Nuland should send her next batch of pastries to him, out of sheer gratitude.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @utu
    @HA


    "Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters."
     
    The same people whose muddled thinking and susceptibility to all kinds of disinformation memes (which were sowing distrust of authorities of Western countries) were exposed by the pandemic. I am pretty confident that lots of covid related memes had their source at Lubyanka assets in the West. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora. Canada was the first country that recognized the independence of Ukraine. Look at timing when Canada was considering some military for Ukraine in January. I wouldn't be surprised that Kremlin used the pandemic and the disinformation about it that it was pumping out to Western rightoids as Kremlin's 'podgotovka' for Ukraine invasion.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @HA

    , @Jack D
    @HA


    Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.
     
    The invasion really has them confused. For weeks they were supposed to repeat the disinformatia that there was no invasion planned - the Russian troops are just in their own bases hundreds of kilometers from the border - what invasion? But now there is an invasion after all so somehow you have to wipe your memory clean and start spouting new lies.

    Disinformatia is just a tactic like spreading smoke on a battlefield and the success of a battle doesn't entirely hinge upon it, but I think that Putin was somewhat surprised that time honored Russian disinformatia tactics really didn't work well (naive unz posters don't count) because there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn't change his ultimate decision to invade but they probably would have been happier if they had been able to create more fog of war as in the past.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Paperback Writer

  193. @Reg Cæsar
    @PhysicistDave


    It is not nice to invade another country.
     
    We were celebrated for invading France-- twice. The world is a hypocrite. Be careful what you ask for.

    Besides, it wasn't nice to lose half a million men in Europe.


    Typo of the day? (The second one.)

    "But there’s no guarantee the Ukranians will lay [sic] down and let him have their county [sic] passively." 


    https://redstate.com/dennis_santiago/2022/02/24/analysis-putin-throws-world-peace-into-the-trash-bin-the-world-awaits-bidens-response-n527044

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

    Yes, the Allies invading France was just like Russia invading Ukraine. Same thing.

    I know that Putin and his defenders love to draw false equivalences but even Putin I don’t think compares his invasion to the Allied invasion of France.

    Redrawing boundaries by force can be very effective IF you can make it stick (and are willing to pay the costs of the occupation indefinitely). But it’s hard to keep it up forever. Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Also, if there is no “no changing boundaries by force” ground rule , then others can play at your game too. What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Jack D

    Again, Israel does not exist in these conversations, neither its endless taking of land nor its endless bombing all over the Middle East. Yet somehow Russia doing the same thing is unprecedented.

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?
     
    Right. The Germans should have East Prussia back. They should be welcomed to try and immediately launch a large-scale military operation to seize it.

    Look, I'm all for "acquisition of territory by conquest is contrary to international law" and all that, but, at the end of the day, God is on the side of the bigger battalions.

    And talk is cheap. Do you want to put your child's life on the line to defend Ukraine? I don't know about you, but, for me - to paraphrase Bismarck - Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman. In any case, the time to check Putin was when he acquired Crimea. No one seemed to want to disturb the stability of the world to stop that then. Permitting it set a precedent already - this is just the mop-up.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Suppose China makes a move on Taiwan while we're engaged in Ukraine while inflation skyrockets at home. What then? When do we get overstretched?

    >Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Just as subsidizing NATO alongside our other global commitments and domestic spending is now. I don't like the parallels to the last decade of the USSR's existence, but they are unavoidable. Down to having someone who is mentally failing controlling the football.

    Or I wonder if the Romans were busy going nostalgic about the Punic Wars in the same way Hollywood does WWII when the 3rd Century came... cultural stagnation is one of those things that gets missed but is often a reliable indicator of lack of resilience.

    Replies: @Jack D

  194. @Reg Cæsar
    @PhysicistDave


    It is not nice to invade another country.
     
    We were celebrated for invading France-- twice. The world is a hypocrite. Be careful what you ask for.

    Besides, it wasn't nice to lose half a million men in Europe.


    Typo of the day? (The second one.)

    "But there’s no guarantee the Ukranians will lay [sic] down and let him have their county [sic] passively." 


    https://redstate.com/dennis_santiago/2022/02/24/analysis-putin-throws-world-peace-into-the-trash-bin-the-world-awaits-bidens-response-n527044

    Replies: @Jack D, @Twinkie

    We were celebrated for invading France– twice.

    In the immortal words of Tormund Giantbane, “We didn’t invade; we were invited.”

  195. @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Granted, Vladimir Putin is a former intelligence officer, so his ability to marshal facts and remember details must be well above average, but even so, his annual 4 hour long public Q&A sessions are sui generis.

    I can't recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics.

    https://youtu.be/_CSpnWd90_w

    Replies: @Jack D, @BB753

    “I can’t recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics.”

    In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he’s only 8 years his senior.

    • Replies: @HA
    @BB753

    "In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he’s only 8 years his senior."

    Joe Biden has only one job right now, which is to not be Trump, and even at his current level of dotage, he might be able to pull that off. Whereas Putin is actually trying to juggle all those balls. If he pulls it off, he'll get that border with NATO he says he doesn't want, which is a dubious trophy at best, but if he blows it, he's not going to get a pass (anywhere outside Russia and unz-dot-com) for being almost as old as Biden.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  196. @Alden
    @zacie

    I saw the trailer. The black unknown is not even near good looking. With untended messy hair. The whole point of the story is that Christian was extremely good looking. I hope no one goes to see it. And a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men. Boxing bull fighting tennis fighting lots of activities including sword fighting the longer the arms the more advantage. Bull fighter scouts look for kids with long arms. Same for fencing baseball lots of things.

    They were all real people. Cyrano was gay had syphilis of the anus. And really did have a very large nose for which he was teased as a kid. Write some books. Experimented with rockets. The real Madeline was one of the learned ladies. Interested in fine language and the Academy that wrote dictionaries and codified the rules of grammar. And elevating the tail end of rough medieval society into good manners fine cooking etc.

    Boycott MGM

    Replies: @Adept, @Paperback Writer, @Jim Don Bob

    They’re producing a MacBeth on Broadway soon. Daniel Craig as MacBeth. Not my idea of MacBeth but he’s a solid British actor so should be interesting. Who’s his lady?

    Ruth Negga.

    To be fair you can’t really tell she’s black from a distance but the reason they cast her is because she’s black, no other.

    If you’re white and want classical training, forget about it.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Paperback Writer

    Paperback, shouldn't Ruth Negga's name have some asterisks.....you know N*gg*

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Paperback Writer


    Daniel Craig as MacBeth. (…) Who’s his lady?

    Ruth Negga.
     

    That version of The Scottish Play needs a modern title:

    Drill the Oil, Do the Toil and Trouble

    Bleached! Out, Damned Spot

    The Real Housewifery Ain’t No Glamis

    Banquo Be Buggin'

    Macduff the Crime Dawg: The Case of Reggie Side
     

  197. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    And in 2022 who is a “NAZI”.

    A: Any White European/White American or middle class Asian that says or things anything a racially conscious White person would say or think – that includes those Chinese East Asians in the Bay Area that voted to recall the anti White WOKE, pro BLM school board members.

    I guess it’s anything Hitler did or might do like:

    Oppose mass inflation or mass unemployment – yeah, Hitler effective did that one reason he was so popular.

    Give a bad review to an anti White, anti Male movie like the feminist remake of Ghostbusters. There are usually some Je*s involved in all these bad Hollywood movies.

    Anybody (mostly Whites) that looks for any type of sensible Nationalist leader that opposes the worst forms of globalism, usually with some Je* connection like George Soros Open Society foundation, mass 3rd world migration invasions of the West.

    So Putin is playing the “our enemies are NAZIs” game – well the Serbs tried that and tried to talk to Israeli contacts that they were on the right anti NAZI side in World War II. It didn’t work. J American Secretary of State Madeline Albright did led the charge to BOMB THE SERBS, she even threatened to convert to Islam to show her opposition to President Trump saying he would limit bad Muslim immigration.

    What did Enoch Powell say back in 1967:

    “Whom the Gods would destroy they would first make mad, and we must be completely mad to….) (Fill in the rest)

    JR
    The Political Cesspool radio show hosted by James Edwards.

  198. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon

    Excellent analysis. What I find so striking about Biden's cabinet is its sub-mediocre quality. Is there a single confidence-inspiring figure among them? His Transportation Secretary was nowhere to be found when the backlog at the ports became front-page news--turns out he was on paternity leave, which hadn't been previously reported. Maybe Mayor Pete thought he had one of those no-show jobs. He didn't get around to visiting Long Beach and LA for months and then it was only to pose for pictures and make statements. Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean, @Old Prude

    ” Is there anyone in this administration who has any idea how to do their jobs?”

    Is this a trick question?

    Putin and Xi both have the measure of the Biden administration.

    Everything Biden’s people believe is wrong, and some of it is insane. Self-harming lunatics.

  199. @Alfa158
    @ic1000

    Here is a little more information. Again this is vague, not much real footage and it is of course the Russian spin:
    https://youtu.be/3lTOjlQqxnE
    What I deduce is that there are two things going on, at least so far.
    The obvious one is targeted strikes to reduce the Ukrainian military capability, rather like a much less powerful version of the shock and awe campaigns against Iraq and Serbia.
    The second thing is, maybe, ground offensives to push the separatist territory out past the line of conflict in the Donbass. I say maybe because there was no visual on it, in this video, just a report, and the fact that the Ukrainian shelling seems to have stopped. It may be just a rumor of war like the purported Russian landings in Odessa which have now been retracted, but that could be at least one source for reports of ground combat.

    Replies: @ic1000, @JonJon

    Here is a map posted by Michael Kofman, the Director of Russia Studies at the Center for Naval Analysis (Arlington, VA).


    It projects Russian occupation of two-thirds of Ukraine, leaving the western portion alone.

    Unclear to me if this would be to leave a buffer rump Ukraine/Galicia bordering Romania, Hungary, and Poland. Seems more likely that it would be the prelude to consolidation and a takeover of the entire country, to be reconstituted with much-reduced territory under a puppet government. From his point of view, Putin has already paid full price, he might as well take everything.

    From a Business Insider story from 2015, here is a map of “Novorossiya,”, the Ukrainian oblasts forming the southern third of the country. A landlocked Ukraine without a Black Sea coastline could appeal to Putin.

  200. @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    > Arm the Ukrainian military and the Ukrainian resistance.

    Dear Dave,

    About that armed resistance to the overwhelming might and technical superiority of a ruthless adversary.

    The TFR for Afghanistan is 4.7 children born per woman (2021 estimate). For Ukraine, it's 1.6.

    Somehow I don't think that reflecting on these facts will have any effect on what your keyboard contributes to Twitter.

    Let's you and him fight.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Paperback Writer

    I get an even lower Ukraine TFR. And the current one is irrelevant. It could be 8 and what does that matter? Look at 2000, when it was hovering over 1.0.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=UA

    Anyway the Russians aren’t that stupid. There won’t be an insurgency. Look at Syria. People predicted they’d get bogged down there but they didn’t.

  201. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, the Allies invading France was just like Russia invading Ukraine. Same thing.

    I know that Putin and his defenders love to draw false equivalences but even Putin I don't think compares his invasion to the Allied invasion of France.

    Redrawing boundaries by force can be very effective IF you can make it stick (and are willing to pay the costs of the occupation indefinitely). But it's hard to keep it up forever. Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Also, if there is no "no changing boundaries by force" ground rule , then others can play at your game too. What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    Replies: @neutral, @Twinkie, @nebulafox

    Again, Israel does not exist in these conversations, neither its endless taking of land nor its endless bombing all over the Middle East. Yet somehow Russia doing the same thing is unprecedented.

  202. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, the Allies invading France was just like Russia invading Ukraine. Same thing.

    I know that Putin and his defenders love to draw false equivalences but even Putin I don't think compares his invasion to the Allied invasion of France.

    Redrawing boundaries by force can be very effective IF you can make it stick (and are willing to pay the costs of the occupation indefinitely). But it's hard to keep it up forever. Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Also, if there is no "no changing boundaries by force" ground rule , then others can play at your game too. What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    Replies: @neutral, @Twinkie, @nebulafox

    What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    Right. The Germans should have East Prussia back. They should be welcomed to try and immediately launch a large-scale military operation to seize it.

    Look, I’m all for “acquisition of territory by conquest is contrary to international law” and all that, but, at the end of the day, God is on the side of the bigger battalions.

    And talk is cheap. Do you want to put your child’s life on the line to defend Ukraine? I don’t know about you, but, for me – to paraphrase Bismarck – Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman. In any case, the time to check Putin was when he acquired Crimea. No one seemed to want to disturb the stability of the world to stop that then. Permitting it set a precedent already – this is just the mop-up.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    ...Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman.
     
    Or even the smegma.

    One of the kids just heard a report that the Russians took Chernobyl. If that's true... we haven't verified... they can have it!

    What could the Russians do there that is worse than they did as Soviets?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  203. @Sean
    @Harry Baldwin


    https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously?utm_source=url Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin The two themes that let the Blob carry the day [...]

    Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:

    "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests"
     
    Burns added that it was “hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership—a move that, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Thanks for the link.

  204. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with almost all of your comment, but…


    The Japanese got almost no one on board.
     
    This isn’t quite true. Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators. It is as with the French - most collaborated with the (erstwhile) winner, but all were “Resistance all along” after the war.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    Crowd behavior can get people to do things and express resentments they’d otherwise wouldn’t, though. I’d be curious to see how many store looters would obey the law if there wasn’t already a bunch of people doing it.

    >Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators.

    Same story in Southeast Asia, though the experience would vary depending on the country: Filipinos seem to have had a particularly rough time of it (I’ve heard of some… exceedingly awful stories concerning Manila in 1945), Thailand was allied with Japan, in Malaysia collaboration with the Japanese broke down on ethnic lines much like Yugoslavia did in Europe, in Indonesia Java was selected for collaboration and Sumatra for exploitation, etc.

    Vietnam had a particularly weird experience in 1945. On one hand, there was a massive famine going on that was partially rooted in occupation rice exportation policies. On the other hand, many Japanese officers threw their lot in with the Viet Minh. Thousands would stay on after 1945, training and arming them into a force that could seriously challenge the prewar order-there’s no way the First Indochinese War could have gone the way it did if it weren’t for those IJA guys-and Ho refused to hand them over to the French and the Chinese.

    The latter of which wanted to utilized Japanese expertise for *their* impending next war. “You little bastards, we claimed them first!” 😛

    • Replies: @Tex
    @nebulafox


    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.
     
    In his memoir Stalking the Vietcong, Stuart Herrington quoted a Vietnamese guy on the local religions. There were three, Catholics (who opposed the Communists), Buddhists (who opposed the government), Cao Dai (who were divided), and the Yes religion that always had a firm grasp on the basics of political allegiance which is to pick whoever's winning.

    Of the four, I'd say Yes is one of the most popular and enduring of all religions. Hell, I've attended services a few times.
    , @Twinkie
    @nebulafox


    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.
     
    I wasn’t referring to most people. There were sizable fractions of elites among the Chinese, Koreans, Manchus, and Taiwanese who were pro-Japanese and actively collaborated. In the case of Korea, such men signed over the country to Japan in return for aristocratic privileges under the Japanese imperial system over the objections of the last Korean king (who refused to sign the formal annexation document). They literally sold out their country (their descendants had their property confiscated by the post-liberation regimes along with other pro-Japanese elements).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eulsa_Traitors

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iljinhoe

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinilpa
  205. @JimDandy
    The "Nazis" Putin is taking about are a lot more Nazi than the "Nazis" Frum is talking about.

    "Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police, Schutzmannschaft, in the German military, and serving as concentration camp guards. Nationalists in western Ukraine were among the most enthusiastic and hoped that their efforts would enable them to re-establish an independent state later on.... on the eve of Operation' Barbarossa, as many as 4000 Ukrainians, operating under Wehrmacht orders, sought to cause disruption behind Soviet lines. After the capture of Lviv, a highly-contentious and strategically-important city with a significant Ukrainian minority, OUN leaders proclaimed a new Ukrainian State on June 30, 1941 and simultaneously encouraged loyalty to the new regime in the hope that they would be supported by the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Fluesterwitz, @Exile, @William Badwhite

    “Those Ukrainians who did collaborate with the German occupiers did so in various ways including participating in the local administration, in German-supervised auxiliary police,

    Its almost like a Soviet engineered famine that killed millions of them made the Ukrainians happy to “collaborate” with anyone there to kill Soviets.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  206. @Brutusale
    @AKAHorace

    I understand the concept of "my country, right or wrong". It's just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AKAHorace

    It’s not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it’s still the one on your passport and on any government checks you’re lucky to get, but it doesn’t belong to you.

    NATO should have been disbanded in 1993. Europe should have been told guns or butter, choose one. US economists should not have committed grotesque economic malpractice in Russia. Yeltsin’s successor would have been another genial populist, not a byzantine ex-KGB determined to reverse his country’s decline.

    How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way–in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?

    To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn’t worth World War 3. But then they shouldn’t have engaged in such bombastic rhetoric, knowing Putin’s ultimatum, and that they had no intention of combat operations against Russia.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "It’s not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it’s still the one on your passport and on any government checks you’re lucky to get, but it doesn’t belong to you."

    It is. our country, as in you and me and u.s. Just because you and a few knuckleheads feel differently does not negate the fact I laid out.

    "How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way–in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?"

    They're defending their sovereignty. It's really fascinating that you are essentially supporting an an ex-KGB Deep Stater. Ironic that you are essentially supporting Russia meddling--no less by an oligarch--in someone else's internal affairs, which is what you bitterly opposed when Bush the Junior got into Iraq for gimmedats and free stuff.

    "To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn’t worth World War 3."

    Why not? The rapture would be glorious. Globohomo would finally be defeated. Isn't that the ultimate end goal?

    Replies: @JimDandy

  207. @Adept
    @Alden


    a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men.
     
    This is perverse. As you say, fencing and HEMA are, like basketball and boxing, sports where height imparts a tremendous advantage -- to such an extent that it's almost impossible to be a good duelist, to say nothing of "the best," unless you are at least somewhat taller than average. Fencing a short man is practically indistinguishable from fencing a woman. Fencing a dwarf is a joke in very poor taste.

    Replies: @Alden

    That actor, Peter Dinklage is a great actor and has a very powerful male presence. When he’s sitting down or not in a full shot with others. But dwarfs have normal bodies just really short legs and arms. Like Hispanic Indians that are mostly Indians. It’s the short legs that make them short. Plus he’s obviously middle aged.

    I hope it’s as much a disaster as the black Anne Boleyn.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    The basic idea of "Cyrano" is that he's a great romantic hero, poet and swordsman, who should be able to get the beautiful girl, except he has a really funny looking nose, which is comic-tragic.

    I like the idea of dwarf Peter Dinklage, who as Alden says has a very powerful male presence, playing Cyrano. After all, the nose thing is trivial compared to being a dwarf.

    But they would have to figure out something else besides swordfighting for him to be great at.

    There was an 18th Century court dwarf who became one of the leading rococo architects, François de Cuvilliés, so, yeah, combine the two characters. Have Cyrano be a brilliant architect designing palaces, but he still can't get the girl.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Twinkie, @Alden

    , @Brutusale
    @Alden

    Funny about the current context. I just saw a clip of Dinklage on Graham Norton's BBC America show, and he talked about Game of Thrones and all the fighting, where being a noncombatant was unheroic for his character. The producers wanted him to fight, too, but when they put him in a battle it looked ridiculous. He said they basically admitted defeat, had him chop off someone's leg in the battle scene, and never had him do another fight scene.

  208. @Alden
    OT. Another classic movie’s been remade with a black actor playing a real White person Christian de Neuvillett. From the Cyrano de Bergerac story. . And of course one of the 3 major characters Christian is of course an ugly black actor. It’s a true story about real people . The author Rostand switched the ages and relationships. Cyrano was a younger cousin of Madeline. She and Christian had been married for years before he came to Paris. Made by MGM. Boycott.

    Replies: @zacie, @Anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Jim Don Bob

    I doubt anyone will have to be encouraged to boycott it. The movie will probably bomb all by itself just like Spielberg’s West Side Story which grossed just \$70 million on a budget of \$100 million. You’d have to pay me to watch this crap.

  209. @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    Crowd behavior can get people to do things and express resentments they'd otherwise wouldn't, though. I'd be curious to see how many store looters would obey the law if there wasn't already a bunch of people doing it.

    >Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators.

    Same story in Southeast Asia, though the experience would vary depending on the country: Filipinos seem to have had a particularly rough time of it (I've heard of some... exceedingly awful stories concerning Manila in 1945), Thailand was allied with Japan, in Malaysia collaboration with the Japanese broke down on ethnic lines much like Yugoslavia did in Europe, in Indonesia Java was selected for collaboration and Sumatra for exploitation, etc.

    Vietnam had a particularly weird experience in 1945. On one hand, there was a massive famine going on that was partially rooted in occupation rice exportation policies. On the other hand, many Japanese officers threw their lot in with the Viet Minh. Thousands would stay on after 1945, training and arming them into a force that could seriously challenge the prewar order-there's no way the First Indochinese War could have gone the way it did if it weren't for those IJA guys-and Ho refused to hand them over to the French and the Chinese.

    The latter of which wanted to utilized Japanese expertise for *their* impending next war. "You little bastards, we claimed them first!" :P

    Replies: @Tex, @Twinkie

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    In his memoir Stalking the Vietcong, Stuart Herrington quoted a Vietnamese guy on the local religions. There were three, Catholics (who opposed the Communists), Buddhists (who opposed the government), Cao Dai (who were divided), and the Yes religion that always had a firm grasp on the basics of political allegiance which is to pick whoever’s winning.

    Of the four, I’d say Yes is one of the most popular and enduring of all religions. Hell, I’ve attended services a few times.

  210. My question is: what took them so long?

  211. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, the Allies invading France was just like Russia invading Ukraine. Same thing.

    I know that Putin and his defenders love to draw false equivalences but even Putin I don't think compares his invasion to the Allied invasion of France.

    Redrawing boundaries by force can be very effective IF you can make it stick (and are willing to pay the costs of the occupation indefinitely). But it's hard to keep it up forever. Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Also, if there is no "no changing boundaries by force" ground rule , then others can play at your game too. What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?

    Replies: @neutral, @Twinkie, @nebulafox

    Suppose China makes a move on Taiwan while we’re engaged in Ukraine while inflation skyrockets at home. What then? When do we get overstretched?

    >Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Just as subsidizing NATO alongside our other global commitments and domestic spending is now. I don’t like the parallels to the last decade of the USSR’s existence, but they are unavoidable. Down to having someone who is mentally failing controlling the football.

    Or I wonder if the Romans were busy going nostalgic about the Punic Wars in the same way Hollywood does WWII when the 3rd Century came… cultural stagnation is one of those things that gets missed but is often a reliable indicator of lack of resilience.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @nebulafox

    I think Hollywood interest in WWII peaked in the mid-1990s. Highlighting triumphs of racist white people is no longer in fashion. If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war. Somehow they would have to find an angle whereby black women were also the major contributors. Maybe one of the Tuskegee Airmen was really a black female disguised as a male and she was the one who dropped the Bomb on Hitler's bunker?

    If you want to see a country that is obsessed with WWII then look at Putin's Russia.

    In his 17 years as the leader of Russia, Mr. Putin has gradually made Victory Day the most important holiday of the year, tying his presidency to the national unity, sacrifice and centralized authority required to defeat Nazi Germany.

    “The lessons of the past war call on us to be vigilant, and the Russian armed forces are ready to counter any potential aggression,” Mr. Putin said, after some 10,000 troops paraded and 114 pieces of equipment — by official count — rumbled across the cobblestones of Red Square.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/europe/victory-day-russia-putin.html

    What % of Americans could tell you what day VE Day was? What % even know what VE Day means?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Twinkie

  212. @HA
    @utu

    "Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids."

    Yeah, but Putin has, if anything, downgraded his troll-farm contingent this time around. I suppose maybe that's because they're still getting into gear, but during Yanukovych's ouster, they were a lot more active -- and confident. Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they're not even sure of what they're supposed to be saying this time around, and they're just sort of testing the waters.

    At least Putin -- unlike Napoleon -- waited for spring to invade, so he's not THAT stupid. I'll give him credit for at least that. But as to whether the Swedes or the Poles or whatever other dominoes fall out of this line up the way he wants, and all before he dies (or before the next winter sets in), I guess we'll see.

    For now, in the wake of Biden pulling the troops out of Afghanistan (I'm sure we'll get a fair number of "see, what'd I tell you?" tweets from the pundits who were wringing their hands about that), Putin has just tossed the war dogs as big a bone as they could have hoped for. Nuland should send her next batch of pastries to him, out of sheer gratitude.

    Replies: @utu, @Jack D

    “Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.”

    The same people whose muddled thinking and susceptibility to all kinds of disinformation memes (which were sowing distrust of authorities of Western countries) were exposed by the pandemic. I am pretty confident that lots of covid related memes had their source at Lubyanka assets in the West. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora. Canada was the first country that recognized the independence of Ukraine. Look at timing when Canada was considering some military for Ukraine in January. I wouldn’t be surprised that Kremlin used the pandemic and the disinformation about it that it was pumping out to Western rightoids as Kremlin’s ‘podgotovka’ for Ukraine invasion.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @utu

    which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora.

    LOL. As in, "not really Canadian."

    Kremlin’s ‘podgotovka’ for Ukraine invasion.

    Wanna translate that for us, tovarich?

    , @HA
    @utu

    "I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada..."

    I didn't realize until today that Ebony Obelisk might also be a Russian asset. Why pay a dozen trolls to try and sway opinions with their broken English, when just one reverse-psychology false-flag account can, with nothing more than a post or two per thread, outdo all their hard work and then some?

  213. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Putin doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet ("denazified") regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state - the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Alden, @Paperback Writer, @JonJon

    I don’t think Putin is a pariah except to the US Jewish war mongers in power cabal, like Nuland. Europeans and Americans who aren’t part of the war monger cabal know those lands have changed boundaries countless times.

    Russians invaded this AM And now we’ll send White boys to die and black boys to steal military materials. And in 3 years the black boys will be out on emotional distress and sucking up more and more taxpayers money from the VA. And ruining the neighborhoods around the VA hospitals. The “ flaw” in the American welfare system is that most of the benefits go to the disabled and parents. Most of the parents being women. Single adults get very little. But that demographic is now taken care of by the VA. Blacks join up, are out in 3 years and then life king welfare via the VA. .

  214. @notsaying
    Trump shows his instinctive self and whose side he is on. It is not smart and it is not pretty.

    I voted for him twice and I still do not understand what is wrong with him. I just know I do not want to know. How anybody can have that biggest mouth around them on a constant basis is just beyond me:

    "I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, "This is genius,"' Trump said. 'Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine - of Ukraine - Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful.'


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545563/Trump-doubles-calling-Putin-smart-launches-special-military-operation.html#article-10545563

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @James J O'Meara

    American “politics” is people arguing to the death over who sounds more retarded, Biden or Trump.

    “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius,”‘ Trump said.

  215. @PhysicistDave
    FoxNews just aired an interview with retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis who made the same point a number of us here have been making: the ruling elite in the West has really, really screwed up how they have dealt with Russia in the last three decades.

    Peter Htichens has a column up on The Daily Mail making the same point.

    In coming days, we are going to be deluged with a flood of propaganda from the US regime claiming that those of us who point out how the Western ruling elites have screwed this up are somehow secret tools of Putin.

    We're not. We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Russian troops have crossed the Belorussian border, apparently heading for Kiev. The residents of Kiev are fleeing the city. Russia seems to have stopped the bombardment around Kiev, now that they have taken out local military assets and command and control capabilities, and are saying that they have no desire to attack civilian populations.

    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.

    Now, anyone want to bet on how soon Zelensky -- the Stephen Colbert of the Ukraine -- flees the country?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr Mox, @James J O'Meara

    I assume they will soon be seizing radio and television broadcast facilities.

    I hope Putin takes out a whole lot of journo scum, just the the USNATOIsrael routine does “by accident”. It would be good to see some Western journos take rockets up the wazoo, maybe on live feeds.

  216. @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Suppose China makes a move on Taiwan while we're engaged in Ukraine while inflation skyrockets at home. What then? When do we get overstretched?

    >Maintaining the E. Bloc ultimately bankrupted the USSR.

    Just as subsidizing NATO alongside our other global commitments and domestic spending is now. I don't like the parallels to the last decade of the USSR's existence, but they are unavoidable. Down to having someone who is mentally failing controlling the football.

    Or I wonder if the Romans were busy going nostalgic about the Punic Wars in the same way Hollywood does WWII when the 3rd Century came... cultural stagnation is one of those things that gets missed but is often a reliable indicator of lack of resilience.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I think Hollywood interest in WWII peaked in the mid-1990s. Highlighting triumphs of racist white people is no longer in fashion. If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war. Somehow they would have to find an angle whereby black women were also the major contributors. Maybe one of the Tuskegee Airmen was really a black female disguised as a male and she was the one who dropped the Bomb on Hitler’s bunker?

    If you want to see a country that is obsessed with WWII then look at Putin’s Russia.

    In his 17 years as the leader of Russia, Mr. Putin has gradually made Victory Day the most important holiday of the year, tying his presidency to the national unity, sacrifice and centralized authority required to defeat Nazi Germany.

    “The lessons of the past war call on us to be vigilant, and the Russian armed forces are ready to counter any potential aggression,” Mr. Putin said, after some 10,000 troops paraded and 114 pieces of equipment — by official count — rumbled across the cobblestones of Red Square.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/europe/victory-day-russia-putin.html

    What % of Americans could tell you what day VE Day was? What % even know what VE Day means?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jack D

    The central narrative of WW2 in the US has become the War to End the Holocaust, just like the US War Between the States has been retrofitted into the War to End Slavery. Otherwise, yes, it's always 1939 for the neo-cons/neo-libs.

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.
     
    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8644/15979588582_92a8a496b5_o.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @utu, @JMcG, @nebulafox

  217. George W. Bush weighs in:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10547767/President-George-Bush-says-Putins-attack-gravest-threat-Europe-World-War-Two.html

    Would this be the same George W. Bush who launched the catastrophic U.S. invasion of Iraq on the laughable pretext that Saddam Hussein was preparing to nuke Washington and New York? How many deaths are on his hands? Hundreds of thousands.

    “I looked into his eyes, and I saw his soul.” – George W. Bush on Vladimir Putin

  218. 1. Can we stop saying nazi and say national socialist.

    2.How will the neo bolsheviks in Moscow react to NATO admitting Finland and Sweden?

    3 Countries without nuclear weapons will acquire them or join a club with nukes.

    4. Mexico is our natural enemy and should be awarded 30 million illegals of all nationalities to sort out.

  219. Did the Russian Generals pick straws as to who would lead a unit to take Chernobyl?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/chernobyl-power-plant-captured-by-russian-forces-ukrainian-official-2022-02-24/

  220. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Putin doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet ("denazified") regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state - the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Alden, @Paperback Writer, @JonJon

    I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military

    Brilliant, general Jack D! Isn’t that what usually happens in war?

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state

    In your mind. Except with China. They are backing their ally to the hilt.

    If Russia is now such a pariah, might it not be a good idea for Israel to allow the poor Ukrainians the protection of the Iron Dome?

    As far as sanctions go, time will tell. From what I read, they are toothless. So many exceptions and carve outs they don’t bite.

    “doesn’t want a lot of civilian casualties”

    Sounds like Hitler to me.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer


    China on Thursday denied backing Russia’s military assault in Ukraine as it trod a cautious line in response to a conflict that many Chinese analysts just days before were predicting wouldn’t happen.

    At a regular briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying downplayed the suggestion that Beijing was supporting Moscow behind the scenes.

    “As for American hints that Russia had China backing it up, I’m sure Russia would be pleased to hear it,” Hua said. “We won’t be like America and provide Ukraine a large amount of military equipment. Russia as a powerful nation also does not need China or other countries to provide [military assistance].”

    Hua added that “China did not wish to see what happened in Ukraine today.”
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/24/ukraine-china-russia-invasion-reaction/

    This sounds like the opposite of backing Russia to the hilt. The Chinese really don't like to stick their necks out, especially not for others. If Putin thinks that the Chinese have his back, he should think again. The Chinese have their own back.

    Replies: @KevinsAccount, @Paperback Writer

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    We are the pariah now. Someone break it to the public.

  221. @AnotherDad
    @Sean

    Sean--was over my comment limit last night, but wanted to say "thanks" for the link.

    Recommend to others. Worth reading for a reasonable take, and insight into what more level-headed people on the American diplomatic side. To bad this guy Burns didn't have Biden's ear.

    Replies: @Sean

    Yes it really is right on the money. On the other hand, I don’t think many people in the US or Ukraine , even generals aware of the intel, seriously believed if he was ignored Putin was going to fulfill his threats with a Soviet Re-Union by tank. Ukrainians thought their biggest problem was corruption> Maybe Steven Pinker is to blame. I got the Burns link from Stephen Walt’s Twitter, who is a defensive realist as opposed to Mearsheimer’s offensive realism theory. Walt talks a lot of sense from what I have read of him, but unfortunately much of his stuff is behind paywalls.

    Eastern Europe and Russia
    In 2015, Walt wrote that extending invitations for NATO membership to countries in the former Soviet bloc is a “dangerous and unnecessary goal” and that nations such as Ukraine ought to be “neutral buffer state(s) in perpetuity.”[18] From that perspective, he believed that arming Ukrainian armed forces after the annexation of the Crimea by Russia “is a recipe for a longer and more destructive conflict.”[18]

    It has to be said that Mearsheimer is one of the very few who would not be surprised by an all out conventional attack by Russia on Ukraine, because he thinks use of military force is often effective. You have to wonder how on the ball and motivated the Ukrainians were, in view of the capital city’s airport being captured by helicopter-borne Russian commandoes. That is more like an anti terrorist operation that something you’d expect to work against a obvious target in a forewarned modern state.

  222. @Brutusale
    @AKAHorace

    I understand the concept of "my country, right or wrong". It's just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AKAHorace

    I understand the concept of “my country, right or wrong”. It’s just that my country seems SO fucking wrong about everything these days.

    Even from the point of view of narrow self interest for the Republicans, Trump should have sounded bipartisan for a bit as the Russians were invading Ukraine. Then again, as a Canadian, I may not be able to judge American Republicans well enough to say.

  223. @Mr. Anon
    @Dennis Dale


    Sounds like the “neo nazi” element is a joke, but this is an Atlantic Council article purpose of which is to buttress support for US goals.
     
    From the limited amount I've read about them (and that is limited because, I really don't care about the Ukraine), the Azov regiment (they used to be a battalion, but they got bigger) were used by the current government of Ukraine to fight the Russian separatists in the Donbass region. They are now officially part of the Ukrainian National Guard. So they're essentially cannon fodder.

    There are also, I believe, right-wing political elements that unofficially support the current government. Remember that Victoria Nuland, when she was picking the democratic government for the free democratic republic of Ukraine, said that she wanted certain people on "the outside".

    Replies: @Bill

    Back in 2014, there were actual Nazis in the Ukrainian government at ministerial level. They were there at the start because Nazi street fighters were necessary to overthrow the government. The noodle-armed hipsters Soros provided were not up to the task. The Nazis were removed over time since their parties did so poorly in the elections. Actually, who knows whether they actually did poorly, but they did poorly in the reported results, anyway.

  224. @anon
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been prevented if one of two things had occurred: (1) Ukraine were already in NATO or (2) the U.S. and Russia came to a written agreement guaranteeing that Ukraine would *never* be in NATO. It's too late for the former, and probably also the latter now too. The American deepstate is completely intractable and uncompromising on this.

    Putin sees Ukraine's eventual incorporation into NATO as likely, and views this period of limbo as an opportunity to ensure it never happens, as it would pose a grave threat to Russia -- a matter of national survival, even. He hoped that his military exercises on Ukraine's border would give the U.S. and NATO allies the hint that it's now or never. He hoped that diplomacy would prevail, but hope's wearing thin.

    Imagine if China were meddling in Canadian and Mexican elections (as the U.S. [Victoria Nuland] has in Ukraine) and the U.S. got wind that the pro-Chinese governments of Canada and Mexico were arranging to enter into a mutual defense treaty with China -- would the U.S. tolerate this? No. American tanks would be on Canadian/Mexican streets by sundown. That's the Monroe Doctrine. Foreign great powers are not allowed to meddle in the Western Hemisphere. There would be no talk of "rights and national autonomy." Blinken et al. wouldn't be waxing poetic about the "rights" of nations to enter into any agreement with whomever they want. The U.S. would have pro-American regimes installed in its neighbors' parliaments in no time, and it would not be "democratic." This is the same predicament Russia faces with Ukraine.

    So, in lieu of the article five deterrence which NATO would have given Ukraine, the U.S. is threatening sanctions on Russia to prevent invasion -- i.e., economic pain -- but given a choice between survival and economic pain, which would you choose? Furthermore, if you believe that the U.S. is acting in bad faith and the sanctions will come regardless, as the U.S. will invent some pretext -- perhaps you're "too tough on LGBT" or whatever -- then it becomes no choice at all. Putin has effectively said as such.

    So, we're about one year into the Biden administration. What does its report card look like?

    I should start by stating the obvious which is that Biden is not what he used to be -- which is hardly unprecedented in the history of American presidents, and by itself wouldn't terribly concern me: all three of America's greatest foes (and challenges) in the 20th century were vanquished under presidents with severe intellectual deficits, Wilson in WWI was bedridden and non compos mentis after a stroke, FDR in WWII was geriatric, enfeebled and died before the end of the war, and Reagan was suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's when he brought an end to the Soviet Union. This is all to underline the point that a presidency isn't the man so much as the cabinet.

    So, to refine the question: how is Biden's cabinet performing? At this point I'll note that this is by far the most Jewish cabinet in American history, with something like 80% of the top posts being filled by Jews. The only non-Jew in a top post is the black secretary of defense AA hire.

    There was the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. There is the border surge debacle. There is nascent formation of a war in Europe which may prove the greatest since the end of WWII. There's also hot inflation and severe shortages, airline and transportation delays, and curtailment of civil liberties and spiteful attacks on political opposition. What am I missing?

    Some of these imbroglios may be more attributable to incompetence (Afghanistan), some more to malfeasance (border surge and non-enforcement) and others equal parts both (failed NATO/Ukraine policy leading to a war with nuclear power).

    On the whole Biden's administration looks pretty catastrophic, though the media provides a smokescreen and runs constant interception on the administration's behalf. Biden gets the Trump-treatment in reverse. Trump, though flawed, wasn't the flaming garbage pile which Biden has proved to be. Going through it point by point would take all day, but on just a couple points: (1) Trump wouldn't have constrained domestic fossil fuel production, further exasperating energy inflation in the context of a conflict with Russia. (2) The border surge wouldn't have happened. (3) The whole Ukraine debacle wouldn't be unfolding.

    I'm not sure if it's because Trump was a "mad man" and thus would have deterred Putin, or because, contrariwise, Trump was so "sensible" and charming, and has actually spoken with empathy towards Putin/Russia and their interests. Regardless, long before this conflict could grow hot, I suspect Trump would have brokered a deal wherein with Putin wherein Ukraine becomes a de facto buffer state (the only viable long-term peaceful solution), and he would have given Putin the guarantees about NATO non-inclusion which Putin sought. The alternative is a war wherein Putin wrests control over Ukraine and turns it into a Russian proxy. Trump would have gone to great lengths to prevent the situation from degenerating to where it is today. He would have seen his role presiding over the outbreak of what threatens to be a catastrophic war in Europe as a huge blot on his record, and gone to great lengths to prevent it. Unencumbered by ideological baggage about "all nations having the 'right' to apply for NATO membership," he would have made a deal.

    What should we attribute the Biden administration's failures to? It occurs to me that maybe, just maybe, the Jews who are getting into these high positions are rising not through competence and patriotic love of country, but through corruption, nepotism and allegiance to certain ideals which are, ultimately, anti-American at their core -- like multiculturalism, ESG, CRT and DEI-ism -- you know, ideals which they themselves were central to creating

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Lurker, @Lurker, @JimDandy, @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @Prester John, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Great analysis. Well done, sir. Well done.

  225. nobody is interviewing Condoleezza Rice, a supposed expert on russia and of course exactly the kind of black body that modern america is looking to hear from these days.

    probably because she actually knows jack shit about russia, is associated with GW bush, a dumb ass failure, and is currently busy being engaged by football people who want her as a token football advisor so she can tell them about football, which she also knows jack shit about.

    to be fair, she was clearly smarter than this puppet person the Biden administration has as the US ambassador to the UN, who when it opens it’s mouth and talks, looks like a Jim Henson, Dark Crystal character or something, and has all the intelligence and mannerisms of one. “You will never escape, Gelfling. Trial by stone. The Biden administration has spoken.”

  226. @HA
    @utu

    "Depressing to see so many Putin fanboys and apologists among the rightoids."

    Yeah, but Putin has, if anything, downgraded his troll-farm contingent this time around. I suppose maybe that's because they're still getting into gear, but during Yanukovych's ouster, they were a lot more active -- and confident. Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they're not even sure of what they're supposed to be saying this time around, and they're just sort of testing the waters.

    At least Putin -- unlike Napoleon -- waited for spring to invade, so he's not THAT stupid. I'll give him credit for at least that. But as to whether the Swedes or the Poles or whatever other dominoes fall out of this line up the way he wants, and all before he dies (or before the next winter sets in), I guess we'll see.

    For now, in the wake of Biden pulling the troops out of Afghanistan (I'm sure we'll get a fair number of "see, what'd I tell you?" tweets from the pundits who were wringing their hands about that), Putin has just tossed the war dogs as big a bone as they could have hoped for. Nuland should send her next batch of pastries to him, out of sheer gratitude.

    Replies: @utu, @Jack D

    Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.

    The invasion really has them confused. For weeks they were supposed to repeat the disinformatia that there was no invasion planned – the Russian troops are just in their own bases hundreds of kilometers from the border – what invasion? But now there is an invasion after all so somehow you have to wipe your memory clean and start spouting new lies.

    Disinformatia is just a tactic like spreading smoke on a battlefield and the success of a battle doesn’t entirely hinge upon it, but I think that Putin was somewhat surprised that time honored Russian disinformatia tactics really didn’t work well (naive unz posters don’t count) because there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn’t change his ultimate decision to invade but they probably would have been happier if they had been able to create more fog of war as in the past.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D


    ... there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn’t change his ultimate decision to invade...
     
    You don't get it.

    Some of us see that Putin has every right and reason to invade a land on his own front porch that is run by an illegitimate, hostile, Zelenskyy puppet regime put in place by "US." We don't give a damn what he does in The Ukraine.

    This is your war.

    -- Naive Unz Poster

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    LOL, a lot of people predicted that Putin would invade. You're right, Unz posters don't work.

    And as for being embarrassed that people comment on a site that publishes Andrew Anglin and moon-landing disinformation bullshit, um, motes and beams, Jack my boy. GFTO of here if you dislike the environment.

    Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong

  227. @Dr. X
    Jewish MP says truckers honking is a secret Nazi salute:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10540325/Woke-Canadian-MP-claims-Freedom-Convoys-Honk-Honk-catchphrase-secret-code-HEIL-HITLER.html

    https://torontosun.com/news/national/toronto-mp-thinks-a-freedom-convoy-term-is-call-for-hitler

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    DrX, Thank you for the link. I posted this before…seriously, “honk honk” literally means “Heil Hitler.” This woman is Canada’s Rep. Hank Johnson.

  228. @Art Deco
    @PhysicistDave

    We merely want everyone to face up to the fact that the Western elites could have avoided this disaster.

    Only one person is making discretionary decisions here, and he's not located in any western capital.

    Replies: @Sean, @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @JonJon

    You can tell it isn’t being directed from Washington because the war isn’t being fought against civilians.

  229. @Jack D
    @nebulafox

    I think Hollywood interest in WWII peaked in the mid-1990s. Highlighting triumphs of racist white people is no longer in fashion. If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war. Somehow they would have to find an angle whereby black women were also the major contributors. Maybe one of the Tuskegee Airmen was really a black female disguised as a male and she was the one who dropped the Bomb on Hitler's bunker?

    If you want to see a country that is obsessed with WWII then look at Putin's Russia.

    In his 17 years as the leader of Russia, Mr. Putin has gradually made Victory Day the most important holiday of the year, tying his presidency to the national unity, sacrifice and centralized authority required to defeat Nazi Germany.

    “The lessons of the past war call on us to be vigilant, and the Russian armed forces are ready to counter any potential aggression,” Mr. Putin said, after some 10,000 troops paraded and 114 pieces of equipment — by official count — rumbled across the cobblestones of Red Square.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/europe/victory-day-russia-putin.html

    What % of Americans could tell you what day VE Day was? What % even know what VE Day means?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Twinkie

    The central narrative of WW2 in the US has become the War to End the Holocaust, just like the US War Between the States has been retrofitted into the War to End Slavery. Otherwise, yes, it’s always 1939 for the neo-cons/neo-libs.

  230. @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    Putin turns 70 this year. How long is he going to be able to keep this up?

    Putin had better be in command of all the facts, because he makes every important decision. Such concentration of decision making is not healthy. No matter how wise Putin is, it's beyond the capability of one man. And whoever comes next will likely be much less capable - dictators can't stand having anyone but yes men around them. Putin's humiliation of his cabinet on live TV seemed like a masterful performance but it betrayed organizational weakness rather than Putin's strength. His cabinet consists of his ex-bodyguard, his ex-chef, etc. because these are people he can push around.

    Stalin ended up dying in a puddle of his own urine because treating his health was an important decision that only he could make but he was unconscious and so couldn't make it so he couldn't receive any treatment - Catch 22.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Yeah. It’s a good thing we have capable people over here waiting to take over.

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  231. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D


    I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military

     

    Brilliant, general Jack D! Isn't that what usually happens in war?

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state
     
    In your mind. Except with China. They are backing their ally to the hilt.

    If Russia is now such a pariah, might it not be a good idea for Israel to allow the poor Ukrainians the protection of the Iron Dome?

    As far as sanctions go, time will tell. From what I read, they are toothless. So many exceptions and carve outs they don't bite.

    "doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties"

    Sounds like Hitler to me.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale

    China on Thursday denied backing Russia’s military assault in Ukraine as it trod a cautious line in response to a conflict that many Chinese analysts just days before were predicting wouldn’t happen.

    At a regular briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying downplayed the suggestion that Beijing was supporting Moscow behind the scenes.

    “As for American hints that Russia had China backing it up, I’m sure Russia would be pleased to hear it,” Hua said. “We won’t be like America and provide Ukraine a large amount of military equipment. Russia as a powerful nation also does not need China or other countries to provide [military assistance].”

    Hua added that “China did not wish to see what happened in Ukraine today.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/24/ukraine-china-russia-invasion-reaction/

    This sounds like the opposite of backing Russia to the hilt. The Chinese really don’t like to stick their necks out, especially not for others. If Putin thinks that the Chinese have his back, he should think again. The Chinese have their own back.

    • Replies: @KevinsAccount
    @Jack D

    What a tiresome liar you are.

    Hua said: "A key question here is what role the U.S., the culprit of current tensions surrounding Ukraine, has played"

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    OK, Jack, Putin overplayed his hand. The Chinese are appalled, this will cause a 2nd Sino-Soviet split, and Nordstream2 is on ice.

    Things are really going your way!

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  232. @utu
    @HA


    "Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters."
     
    The same people whose muddled thinking and susceptibility to all kinds of disinformation memes (which were sowing distrust of authorities of Western countries) were exposed by the pandemic. I am pretty confident that lots of covid related memes had their source at Lubyanka assets in the West. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora. Canada was the first country that recognized the independence of Ukraine. Look at timing when Canada was considering some military for Ukraine in January. I wouldn't be surprised that Kremlin used the pandemic and the disinformation about it that it was pumping out to Western rightoids as Kremlin's 'podgotovka' for Ukraine invasion.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @HA

    which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora.

    LOL. As in, “not really Canadian.”

    Kremlin’s ‘podgotovka’ for Ukraine invasion.

    Wanna translate that for us, tovarich?

  233. @Paperback Writer
    @Alden

    They're producing a MacBeth on Broadway soon. Daniel Craig as MacBeth. Not my idea of MacBeth but he's a solid British actor so should be interesting. Who's his lady?

    Ruth Negga.

    To be fair you can't really tell she's black from a distance but the reason they cast her is because she's black, no other.

    If you're white and want classical training, forget about it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Paperback, shouldn’t Ruth Negga’s name have some asterisks…..you know N*gg*

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Buffalo Joe

    It needs a trigger warning. Or is that Negga-warning. Or perhaps jogger-warning.

  234. @Jack D
    @nebulafox

    I think Hollywood interest in WWII peaked in the mid-1990s. Highlighting triumphs of racist white people is no longer in fashion. If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war. Somehow they would have to find an angle whereby black women were also the major contributors. Maybe one of the Tuskegee Airmen was really a black female disguised as a male and she was the one who dropped the Bomb on Hitler's bunker?

    If you want to see a country that is obsessed with WWII then look at Putin's Russia.

    In his 17 years as the leader of Russia, Mr. Putin has gradually made Victory Day the most important holiday of the year, tying his presidency to the national unity, sacrifice and centralized authority required to defeat Nazi Germany.

    “The lessons of the past war call on us to be vigilant, and the Russian armed forces are ready to counter any potential aggression,” Mr. Putin said, after some 10,000 troops paraded and 114 pieces of equipment — by official count — rumbled across the cobblestones of Red Square.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/europe/victory-day-russia-putin.html

    What % of Americans could tell you what day VE Day was? What % even know what VE Day means?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Twinkie

    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.

    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie, the cult of Tarantino. More highly praised trash than any other modern day director.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @utu
    @Twinkie

    BTW, supposedly Americans caught with shotguns were killed on the spot by Germans.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @JMcG
    @Twinkie

    And yet, not one single movie about the kapos. So very strange.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    That movie was so juvenile.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  235. @Mike Tre
    The true enemy is less what you can see, and more what you can not see.

    I'll be here all evening.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “The true enemy is less what you can see, and more what you can not see.”

    Kung Fu Season 2 Episode 21 “The Spirit-helper” Original Air Date November 8, 1973

  236. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Putin doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties, which would make him unpopular with Russians as well as even more of an international pariah. I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military as well as Zelensky to the point where the government falls and Putin can install a puppet ("denazified") regime. The puppet regime will cede the Donbas and perhaps even Odessa to Russia and then operate as a Russian client state.

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state - the condemnation has been pretty much world wide. Even his Chinese allies do not endorse interference with national sovereignty.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Alden, @Paperback Writer, @JonJon

    Defeat after humiliating defeat will work to the advantage of Murka and its frens.

  237. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.
     
    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8644/15979588582_92a8a496b5_o.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @utu, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    Twinkie, the cult of Tarantino. More highly praised trash than any other modern day director.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Buffalo Joe

    "More highly praised trash"

    I know a few Tarantino acolytes; I could never understand their devotion. However, Jackie Brown (1997), adapted from an Elmore Leonard novel, is very entertaining. And his 2019 release, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, is a perfect distillation of all of his passions, perversions, quirks, and hang-ups. It is intensely personal and, so far, his only truly great film. IMHO.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  238. @Alfa158
    @ic1000

    Here is a little more information. Again this is vague, not much real footage and it is of course the Russian spin:
    https://youtu.be/3lTOjlQqxnE
    What I deduce is that there are two things going on, at least so far.
    The obvious one is targeted strikes to reduce the Ukrainian military capability, rather like a much less powerful version of the shock and awe campaigns against Iraq and Serbia.
    The second thing is, maybe, ground offensives to push the separatist territory out past the line of conflict in the Donbass. I say maybe because there was no visual on it, in this video, just a report, and the fact that the Ukrainian shelling seems to have stopped. It may be just a rumor of war like the purported Russian landings in Odessa which have now been retracted, but that could be at least one source for reports of ground combat.

    Replies: @ic1000, @JonJon

    Much less powerful. Much more powerful. Something something something…

  239. @Paperback Writer
    @Alden

    They're producing a MacBeth on Broadway soon. Daniel Craig as MacBeth. Not my idea of MacBeth but he's a solid British actor so should be interesting. Who's his lady?

    Ruth Negga.

    To be fair you can't really tell she's black from a distance but the reason they cast her is because she's black, no other.

    If you're white and want classical training, forget about it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Daniel Craig as MacBeth. (…) Who’s his lady?

    Ruth Negga.

    That version of The Scottish Play needs a modern title:

    Drill the Oil, Do the Toil and Trouble

    Bleached! Out, Damned Spot

    The Real Housewifery Ain’t No Glamis

    Banquo Be Buggin’

    Macduff the Crime Dawg: The Case of Reggie Side

  240. @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    Crowd behavior can get people to do things and express resentments they'd otherwise wouldn't, though. I'd be curious to see how many store looters would obey the law if there wasn't already a bunch of people doing it.

    >Aside from the Indian nationalists you mention, the Imperial Japanese had quite a few Chinese, Korean, Manchu, and Taiwanese collaborators.

    Same story in Southeast Asia, though the experience would vary depending on the country: Filipinos seem to have had a particularly rough time of it (I've heard of some... exceedingly awful stories concerning Manila in 1945), Thailand was allied with Japan, in Malaysia collaboration with the Japanese broke down on ethnic lines much like Yugoslavia did in Europe, in Indonesia Java was selected for collaboration and Sumatra for exploitation, etc.

    Vietnam had a particularly weird experience in 1945. On one hand, there was a massive famine going on that was partially rooted in occupation rice exportation policies. On the other hand, many Japanese officers threw their lot in with the Viet Minh. Thousands would stay on after 1945, training and arming them into a force that could seriously challenge the prewar order-there's no way the First Indochinese War could have gone the way it did if it weren't for those IJA guys-and Ho refused to hand them over to the French and the Chinese.

    The latter of which wanted to utilized Japanese expertise for *their* impending next war. "You little bastards, we claimed them first!" :P

    Replies: @Tex, @Twinkie

    Most people just put their heads down and try to keep out of trouble. This is the case in all wars, in all times, in all regions of the world. Anybody who would condemn this from a safe, well-fed distance really needs to get their head examined.

    I wasn’t referring to most people. There were sizable fractions of elites among the Chinese, Koreans, Manchus, and Taiwanese who were pro-Japanese and actively collaborated. In the case of Korea, such men signed over the country to Japan in return for aristocratic privileges under the Japanese imperial system over the objections of the last Korean king (who refused to sign the formal annexation document). They literally sold out their country (their descendants had their property confiscated by the post-liberation regimes along with other pro-Japanese elements).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eulsa_Traitors

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iljinhoe

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinilpa

    • Agree: nebulafox
  241. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.
     
    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8644/15979588582_92a8a496b5_o.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @utu, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    BTW, supposedly Americans caught with shotguns were killed on the spot by Germans.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @utu

    That’s an old wives’ tale. The Germans - during both WWI and II - protested the American use of shotguns (“trench guns”) as barbaric, which of course was rather odd given the widespread use of poison gas in WWI as well as such gentle weapons as flame throwers and whatnot. That protest went nowhere.

    In any case, Europeans have tended to shudder at military/law enforcement use of scatter guns and tended to use submachine guns in a similar role.

  242. @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer


    China on Thursday denied backing Russia’s military assault in Ukraine as it trod a cautious line in response to a conflict that many Chinese analysts just days before were predicting wouldn’t happen.

    At a regular briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying downplayed the suggestion that Beijing was supporting Moscow behind the scenes.

    “As for American hints that Russia had China backing it up, I’m sure Russia would be pleased to hear it,” Hua said. “We won’t be like America and provide Ukraine a large amount of military equipment. Russia as a powerful nation also does not need China or other countries to provide [military assistance].”

    Hua added that “China did not wish to see what happened in Ukraine today.”
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/24/ukraine-china-russia-invasion-reaction/

    This sounds like the opposite of backing Russia to the hilt. The Chinese really don't like to stick their necks out, especially not for others. If Putin thinks that the Chinese have his back, he should think again. The Chinese have their own back.

    Replies: @KevinsAccount, @Paperback Writer

    What a tiresome liar you are.

    Hua said: “A key question here is what role the U.S., the culprit of current tensions surrounding Ukraine, has played”

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @KevinsAccount

    Jack of course quoted selectively - but the WaPo article itself was misleading. Here's a better article:

    https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/russia-and-ukraine-the-view-from-china/


    Hua Chunying added, regarding the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of February 4, 2022, “We would like to ask the US side to read it carefully. China and Russia strengthened strategic communication and coordination.”
     
    She said not one thing that indicates China disapproves of the invasion. She simply said that Russia does its own thing, China isn't a factor.
  243. china completely has russia’s back. this is an emerging new world order. taiwan could certainly go in the next decade or so. russia deliberately waited until the chinese olympics were over as a favor to Xi before starting their invasion.

    the biden administration plan to block russia from getting any high tech imports going forward and hurting them that way makes no sense, because most of that stuff is manufactured in…china and neighboring environs. america transferred the majority of their manufacturing to china years ago and not much high tech stuff is made in america anymore. that’s why we’re in a semiconductor crisis for the last 2 years.

    russia has thought about this invasion for years and years. thinking thru all the scenarios and downsides. the bidens personally have never thought about this stuff, and are literal crooks who depended on the neocon puppet government in ukraine for sweet deals. then they tried to frame trump for even talking to them diplomatically in his capacity as head of state. the bidens are some of the the biggest scumbags in US history, and not that smart either. certainly rival the clintons as absolute dirtbags, but don’t rival them in brainpower that’s for sure.

  244. Biden is weak, weak, weak. Another Kennedy/Carter. Expect a lot more of this the next 3 years.

  245. @utu
    @Twinkie

    BTW, supposedly Americans caught with shotguns were killed on the spot by Germans.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    That’s an old wives’ tale. The Germans – during both WWI and II – protested the American use of shotguns (“trench guns”) as barbaric, which of course was rather odd given the widespread use of poison gas in WWI as well as such gentle weapons as flame throwers and whatnot. That protest went nowhere.

    In any case, Europeans have tended to shudder at military/law enforcement use of scatter guns and tended to use submachine guns in a similar role.

  246. @Jack D
    @HA


    Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.
     
    The invasion really has them confused. For weeks they were supposed to repeat the disinformatia that there was no invasion planned - the Russian troops are just in their own bases hundreds of kilometers from the border - what invasion? But now there is an invasion after all so somehow you have to wipe your memory clean and start spouting new lies.

    Disinformatia is just a tactic like spreading smoke on a battlefield and the success of a battle doesn't entirely hinge upon it, but I think that Putin was somewhat surprised that time honored Russian disinformatia tactics really didn't work well (naive unz posters don't count) because there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn't change his ultimate decision to invade but they probably would have been happier if they had been able to create more fog of war as in the past.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Paperback Writer

    … there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn’t change his ultimate decision to invade…

    You don’t get it.

    Some of us see that Putin has every right and reason to invade a land on his own front porch that is run by an illegitimate, hostile, Zelenskyy puppet regime put in place by “US.” We don’t give a damn what he does in The Ukraine.

    This is your war.

    — Naive Unz Poster

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Buzz Mohawk

    He doesn't get it and never will. You seem to be the sane sort (unlike me, LOL) and realize that all the facts in the world won't convince Jack D, so let's both forget about it.

    Jack's a moral fraud. He shrieks about Ukraine and defends Israel's decision to keep the Iron Dome technology from the Ukrainians, who begged for it, pathetically.

    Anyway, Jack's side got what they wanted: Nordstream2 is on ice. So Putin wins and he wins. Win/win, what's to complain about?

    Meanwhile Buzz, If it helps any, there is an interesting group of realists that range from the left to the right who called it:

    John Mearsheimer
    Pat Lang
    Jack Matlock
    George Kennan
    Scott Ritter
    Ray McGovern
    Gilbert Doctorow
    Stephen Cohen

    Unlike you, I do give a damn about what Putin does in Ukraine. Call me a softie, but I think it fucking sucks to use people as political footballs. I'm not sure we ever were serious about Ukraine joining NATO, we were just using them to stop Nordstream.

  247. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    Yeah, there's an invasion, a real one. The Russians are knocking out the Uke Navy in Odessa. Odessa.

    What's your point? That's it's bad? I agree.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “That’s [sic] it’s bad? I agree.”

    Is it bad to take out an Angl0-American Zionist puppet state like Ukraine? When the Chinese liberate Taipei from the corrupt legacy of Chiang Kai-Shek, the CIA’s most successful heroin trafficker, will that be bad? When the stalwarts of Western Civilization finally purge the Gaian Death Cult from its lands will that be terrible? I literally don’t know the answer to these questions.

  248. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    No my point is there is weirdly little coverage on the actual attacks considering that we are in this age of ubiquitous electronic coverage . The news makes it sound like an Operation Barbarossa in reverse. I even looked at RT as well as the Western media and there isn’t much actually visible on any of them. What is actually happening so far, are there targeted air and drone strikes on C&C facilities, or actual ground combat? Where is the invasion, is it still coming? Where is the shock and awe? Even this morning no one seems to have much real coverage.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @ic1000, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams

    Here’s yet another example of how pathetic the mainstream media have become.

    My local newspaper offered a deal where I could get home delivery of the dead-tree edition for \$1 a month, so I figured, “Why not? I can always use it to wipe my ass.”

    I wasn’t able to retrieve the paper until noon today. I imagined the front page would be dominated by a huge banner headline: “WAR IN UKRAINE! PUTIN SLAUGHTERS DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN! EUROPE IN CRISIS AS RUSSIA ATTACKS!”

    Instead, this is what I found:

    [MORE]

    Nothing.

    The invasion news broke shortly after 10 p.m. (Eastern). Historically, the morning paper was put to bed between 11 p.m. and midnight. Nowadays, who knows?

  249. @Jack D
    @HA


    Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters.
     
    The invasion really has them confused. For weeks they were supposed to repeat the disinformatia that there was no invasion planned - the Russian troops are just in their own bases hundreds of kilometers from the border - what invasion? But now there is an invasion after all so somehow you have to wipe your memory clean and start spouting new lies.

    Disinformatia is just a tactic like spreading smoke on a battlefield and the success of a battle doesn't entirely hinge upon it, but I think that Putin was somewhat surprised that time honored Russian disinformatia tactics really didn't work well (naive unz posters don't count) because there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn't change his ultimate decision to invade but they probably would have been happier if they had been able to create more fog of war as in the past.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Paperback Writer

    LOL, a lot of people predicted that Putin would invade. You’re right, Unz posters don’t work.

    And as for being embarrassed that people comment on a site that publishes Andrew Anglin and moon-landing disinformation bullshit, um, motes and beams, Jack my boy. GFTO of here if you dislike the environment.

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
    @Paperback Writer


    GFTO of here if you dislike the environment.
     
    We may lose patience and get involved into a heated argument sometimes. I call someone a "troll" because he or she says someone outrageous and whose only purpose to start a useless spitting contest. Who the hell are you to talk like this? This is a place for free exchange of opinions.
  250. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D


    ... there is so much public satellite information available and because Biden was declassifying intelligence almost in real time. This didn’t change his ultimate decision to invade...
     
    You don't get it.

    Some of us see that Putin has every right and reason to invade a land on his own front porch that is run by an illegitimate, hostile, Zelenskyy puppet regime put in place by "US." We don't give a damn what he does in The Ukraine.

    This is your war.

    -- Naive Unz Poster

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    He doesn’t get it and never will. You seem to be the sane sort (unlike me, LOL) and realize that all the facts in the world won’t convince Jack D, so let’s both forget about it.

    Jack’s a moral fraud. He shrieks about Ukraine and defends Israel’s decision to keep the Iron Dome technology from the Ukrainians, who begged for it, pathetically.

    Anyway, Jack’s side got what they wanted: Nordstream2 is on ice. So Putin wins and he wins. Win/win, what’s to complain about?

    Meanwhile Buzz, If it helps any, there is an interesting group of realists that range from the left to the right who called it:

    John Mearsheimer
    Pat Lang
    Jack Matlock
    George Kennan
    Scott Ritter
    Ray McGovern
    Gilbert Doctorow
    Stephen Cohen

    Unlike you, I do give a damn about what Putin does in Ukraine. Call me a softie, but I think it fucking sucks to use people as political footballs. I’m not sure we ever were serious about Ukraine joining NATO, we were just using them to stop Nordstream.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  251. @Buffalo Joe
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie, the cult of Tarantino. More highly praised trash than any other modern day director.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “More highly praised trash”

    I know a few Tarantino acolytes; I could never understand their devotion. However, Jackie Brown (1997), adapted from an Elmore Leonard novel, is very entertaining. And his 2019 release, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, is a perfect distillation of all of his passions, perversions, quirks, and hang-ups. It is intensely personal and, so far, his only truly great film. IMHO.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Sunny, nice reply, "Jackie Brown" was on the other night, far less bloodshed than in a usual QT film. I call it blood porn, did not invent the term but it fits most of his work. Stay safe

  252. @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer


    China on Thursday denied backing Russia’s military assault in Ukraine as it trod a cautious line in response to a conflict that many Chinese analysts just days before were predicting wouldn’t happen.

    At a regular briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying downplayed the suggestion that Beijing was supporting Moscow behind the scenes.

    “As for American hints that Russia had China backing it up, I’m sure Russia would be pleased to hear it,” Hua said. “We won’t be like America and provide Ukraine a large amount of military equipment. Russia as a powerful nation also does not need China or other countries to provide [military assistance].”

    Hua added that “China did not wish to see what happened in Ukraine today.”
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/24/ukraine-china-russia-invasion-reaction/

    This sounds like the opposite of backing Russia to the hilt. The Chinese really don't like to stick their necks out, especially not for others. If Putin thinks that the Chinese have his back, he should think again. The Chinese have their own back.

    Replies: @KevinsAccount, @Paperback Writer

    OK, Jack, Putin overplayed his hand. The Chinese are appalled, this will cause a 2nd Sino-Soviet split, and Nordstream2 is on ice.

    Things are really going your way!

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    Notably, you'd have to frequent this site that "hosts Andrew Anglin!", and other unconscionable acts, to get the straight scoop--that this is all about Nordstream.

  253. • Agree: Kylie
  254. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D


    I assume the plan is to put the squeeze on the Ukrainian military

     

    Brilliant, general Jack D! Isn't that what usually happens in war?

    There is not much doubt that Putin is going to achieve his short term objectives but whether this was wise in the long run is a different question. He will have Ukraine but Russia is now a pariah state
     
    In your mind. Except with China. They are backing their ally to the hilt.

    If Russia is now such a pariah, might it not be a good idea for Israel to allow the poor Ukrainians the protection of the Iron Dome?

    As far as sanctions go, time will tell. From what I read, they are toothless. So many exceptions and carve outs they don't bite.

    "doesn't want a lot of civilian casualties"

    Sounds like Hitler to me.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale

    We are the pariah now. Someone break it to the public.

  255. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    OK, Jack, Putin overplayed his hand. The Chinese are appalled, this will cause a 2nd Sino-Soviet split, and Nordstream2 is on ice.

    Things are really going your way!

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    Notably, you’d have to frequent this site that “hosts Andrew Anglin!”, and other unconscionable acts, to get the straight scoop–that this is all about Nordstream.

  256. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    What legitimacy does Russian rule of Kaliningrad have?
     
    Right. The Germans should have East Prussia back. They should be welcomed to try and immediately launch a large-scale military operation to seize it.

    Look, I'm all for "acquisition of territory by conquest is contrary to international law" and all that, but, at the end of the day, God is on the side of the bigger battalions.

    And talk is cheap. Do you want to put your child's life on the line to defend Ukraine? I don't know about you, but, for me - to paraphrase Bismarck - Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman. In any case, the time to check Putin was when he acquired Crimea. No one seemed to want to disturb the stability of the world to stop that then. Permitting it set a precedent already - this is just the mop-up.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman.

    Or even the smegma.

    One of the kids just heard a report that the Russians took Chernobyl. If that’s true… we haven’t verified… they can have it!

    What could the Russians do there that is worse than they did as Soviets?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    One of the kids just heard a report that the Russians took Chernobyl. If that’s true… we haven’t verified… they can have it!
     
    Reportedly, they're using it as a base of operations under the theory that the Ukrainians won't bomb or shell it for fear of damaging the radioactive waste containment structure
  257. Biden’s latest presser. Don’t some of those raised hands look kinda Nazi?

  258. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.
     
    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8644/15979588582_92a8a496b5_o.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @utu, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    And yet, not one single movie about the kapos. So very strange.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @JMcG

    Weren’t there Kapos in “Schindler’s List”?

  259. @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    ...Eastern Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single American infantryman.
     
    Or even the smegma.

    One of the kids just heard a report that the Russians took Chernobyl. If that's true... we haven't verified... they can have it!

    What could the Russians do there that is worse than they did as Soviets?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    One of the kids just heard a report that the Russians took Chernobyl. If that’s true… we haven’t verified… they can have it!

    Reportedly, they’re using it as a base of operations under the theory that the Ukrainians won’t bomb or shell it for fear of damaging the radioactive waste containment structure

  260. There are communists in Russia’s Duma.

  261. @Alden
    @Adept

    That actor, Peter Dinklage is a great actor and has a very powerful male presence. When he’s sitting down or not in a full shot with others. But dwarfs have normal bodies just really short legs and arms. Like Hispanic Indians that are mostly Indians. It’s the short legs that make them short. Plus he’s obviously middle aged.

    I hope it’s as much a disaster as the black Anne Boleyn.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    The basic idea of “Cyrano” is that he’s a great romantic hero, poet and swordsman, who should be able to get the beautiful girl, except he has a really funny looking nose, which is comic-tragic.

    I like the idea of dwarf Peter Dinklage, who as Alden says has a very powerful male presence, playing Cyrano. After all, the nose thing is trivial compared to being a dwarf.

    But they would have to figure out something else besides swordfighting for him to be great at.

    There was an 18th Century court dwarf who became one of the leading rococo architects, François de Cuvilliés, so, yeah, combine the two characters. Have Cyrano be a brilliant architect designing palaces, but he still can’t get the girl.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Steve Sailer

    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.

    Elves, on the other hand...

    Replies: @Muggles, @Alden

    , @Twinkie
    @Steve Sailer

    It’d be hilarious and somewhat more realistic if his style of fighting involved (ungallantly) surprise-knifing opponents on their feet (coup de main) followed by some sort of a kill shot.

    , @Alden
    @Steve Sailer

    In Game of Thrones Dinklage didn’t fight hand to hand which would be very unrealistic. Instead he did tactics and strategy during the battles. The trailer was the first fight scene in the theater. Ridiculous. And the next fight scene will be when Cyrano and a friend were ambushed in the street by dozens of thugs. And kill them all.
    There are many parts Dinklage could play. Duelist isn’t one of them.

    And Christian de Neuvillette as a black man. Not even an explanation that he’s a Haiti mulatto. And about a 5 out of 10 in looks.

  262. @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    The basic idea of "Cyrano" is that he's a great romantic hero, poet and swordsman, who should be able to get the beautiful girl, except he has a really funny looking nose, which is comic-tragic.

    I like the idea of dwarf Peter Dinklage, who as Alden says has a very powerful male presence, playing Cyrano. After all, the nose thing is trivial compared to being a dwarf.

    But they would have to figure out something else besides swordfighting for him to be great at.

    There was an 18th Century court dwarf who became one of the leading rococo architects, François de Cuvilliés, so, yeah, combine the two characters. Have Cyrano be a brilliant architect designing palaces, but he still can't get the girl.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Twinkie, @Alden

    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.

    Elves, on the other hand…

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Old Prude


    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.
     
    "Wizard of Oz" degenerate? Those Munchkins made that movie!

    Wow, you don't get out much.

    They've made tons of movies since Birth of a Nation....

    Or perhaps "Triumph of the Will" is more your taste?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Alden
    @Old Prude

    Wizard of Oz was midgets not dwarves. And yes they behaved just like all the normal size actors and crew on every movie and TV set. The hotel where they lived during the filming is still there.

  263. @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    The basic idea of "Cyrano" is that he's a great romantic hero, poet and swordsman, who should be able to get the beautiful girl, except he has a really funny looking nose, which is comic-tragic.

    I like the idea of dwarf Peter Dinklage, who as Alden says has a very powerful male presence, playing Cyrano. After all, the nose thing is trivial compared to being a dwarf.

    But they would have to figure out something else besides swordfighting for him to be great at.

    There was an 18th Century court dwarf who became one of the leading rococo architects, François de Cuvilliés, so, yeah, combine the two characters. Have Cyrano be a brilliant architect designing palaces, but he still can't get the girl.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Twinkie, @Alden

    It’d be hilarious and somewhat more realistic if his style of fighting involved (ungallantly) surprise-knifing opponents on their feet (coup de main) followed by some sort of a kill shot.

  264. Here Is the Full Text of Putin’s Speech This Morning, Feb 24, 2022 for any who’d like to read it:

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/

  265. @JMcG
    @Twinkie

    And yet, not one single movie about the kapos. So very strange.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Weren’t there Kapos in “Schindler’s List”?

  266. @Ebony Obelisk
    Tragic but this will be beneficial to America.

    Before this is over our brave youngsters the most diverse and vibrant in history will whoop butt even worse than what we did to the nazis and southerners and civil rights against ers

    America will come together to liberate Europe from the Russian nazis and conservatism and white supremacy will be dealt a hard blow

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    Replies: @Cato, @James Braxton, @Muggles

    I only regret that I am too old to enlist in the military to fight the inevitable great looking conflict

    Ya, “too old.”

    You never did say where your stand-up act is playing.

    A lot of empty clubs need talent in Kyiv. They might even like your act, though I don’t know.

    Be careful about your Russian jokes. Not much sense of humor there. Or “White people bad” jokes.

    You’ll need some new material. Maybe some Belarus jokes. No one likes them and they are even dumber than Russians. And beet jokes.

    “I ate so much borscht my pee looked like the Red Sea!” There’s a freebie for you…

  267. @Old Prude
    @Steve Sailer

    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.

    Elves, on the other hand...

    Replies: @Muggles, @Alden

    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.

    “Wizard of Oz” degenerate? Those Munchkins made that movie!

    Wow, you don’t get out much.

    They’ve made tons of movies since Birth of a Nation.

    Or perhaps “Triumph of the Will” is more your taste?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Muggles


    Wow, you don’t get out much.
     
    And he should know that it's dwarfs, not dwarves. At least in real life. Tolkien and Disney's spelling has taken over fantasy.
  268. @Dieter Kief
    @Jack D


    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

     

    P.J. O'Rourke once had it this way: You don't win much today via war because territory does make no big difference. His major example was Singapur: No territory, all riches. His conclusion: "War does not work any longer. (...) Modern nations do not triumph by conquering foreign territories and by bringing foeign people under their control." - It's productivity that matters now, he concludes (in The Multicultural Society - Bosnia 1992 - his unbelieveably good essay/reportage hybrid about the Balkan wars - a masterpiece (one of the texts of our times that could well be read hundred years from now - studied & admired too).

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Craken

    By seizing the Ukraine, RU is now the OPEC of food controlling 30% of world wheat market, 20% of corn.
    Putin now gives himself more strategic depth.

    Nordstream 2 pipeline: will the Germans turn it one, or not? hardly matters now as RU will control the pipelines that run across the Ukraine with no more risk of excess siphoning or transit fees.

    Seizing land and making ones country an even stronger commodity super power seems useful in the real world of things. You cannot make semiconductor chips without Russian Neon gas for litho and lasers, package the parts without scarce Palladium. Boeing is reliant on a RU supplier for Titanium and Aluminum and apparently the geniuses who run the strategic metal reserve have allowed Titanium inventory to approach zero. Finding new supplies and requalifying the refining process to meet stringent QA specifications is not a short or simple task

    We still live in a material world where matter, chemistry , Newtonian physics rule. As Elon Musk told Joe Rogan “if you want things then you need to make things.” If you want a country then one needs to control ones borders.
    I suppose one could call this point of view

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @houston 1992

    Good points.

    Anatoly Karlin said, Putin would march into Ukraine months ago.
    One of his main points was, that it would be easy for him****. And could be cost effetive.

    Could turn out that way. But the prize Putinpays is high. Russia's main trade aprtners are all in the West.

    How do the Poles and the Batic states look at this? - They need good nerves.
    Sweden alerted it's navy! - Five battle ships or so...


    ****culturally too. Karlin said, Kiev would be the cultural heart of Russia - much more so than Moscow.

  269. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    If anyone made a WWII movie now it would have to be about how the Tuskegee Airmen single handedly won the war.
     
    They already made a movie about how a tough American Jew killed Hitler and won the war, which was nominated for 8 Academy Awards.

    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8644/15979588582_92a8a496b5_o.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @utu, @JMcG, @nebulafox

    That movie was so juvenile.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    It was beyond juvenile - it was pathetic. It’s essentially “men without chests” cheering for a fantasy version of their forebears kicking ass onscreen when in reality they marched like helpless sheep to death.

    Tarantino is no different than other Hollywood creatures. Earlier he made films pandering to blacks and Jews (of them kicking Southern white and Nazi asses, respectively). Recently he sniffed the wind of white resentment and nostalgia and made a movie about a rugged, handsome white guy playing a sidekick, but being the real hero.

    He does this all the while ripping off styles from others (e.g. Hong Kong action films, etc.). And let’s not forget his long association with Harvey Weinstein and how he backpedals on that relationship now. Typical Hollywood slimy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  270. @BB753
    @PiltdownMan

    "I can’t recall any other major world leader or politician holding forth in such detail on a such a huge variety of topics."

    In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he's only 8 years his senior.

    Replies: @HA

    “In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he’s only 8 years his senior.”

    Joe Biden has only one job right now, which is to not be Trump, and even at his current level of dotage, he might be able to pull that off. Whereas Putin is actually trying to juggle all those balls. If he pulls it off, he’ll get that border with NATO he says he doesn’t want, which is a dubious trophy at best, but if he blows it, he’s not going to get a pass (anywhere outside Russia and unz-dot-com) for being almost as old as Biden.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @HA

    This might be the dumbest thing ever posted here. If anything, people expecting only of Biden that he not be Trump is precisely the problem.
    What juggling? We've been exposed as a paper tiger here. That's all he had to worry about His only worry should be if crazy people get control of our government.


    Oh shit...

    Replies: @HA

  271. @Buffalo Joe
    @Paperback Writer

    Paperback, shouldn't Ruth Negga's name have some asterisks.....you know N*gg*

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    It needs a trigger warning. Or is that Negga-warning. Or perhaps jogger-warning.

  272. @utu
    @HA


    "Whereas the useful idiots and traitors on display here seem like they’re not even sure of what they’re supposed to be saying this time around, and they’re just sort of testing the waters."
     
    The same people whose muddled thinking and susceptibility to all kinds of disinformation memes (which were sowing distrust of authorities of Western countries) were exposed by the pandemic. I am pretty confident that lots of covid related memes had their source at Lubyanka assets in the West. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada which has politically active and quite powerful Ukrainian diaspora. Canada was the first country that recognized the independence of Ukraine. Look at timing when Canada was considering some military for Ukraine in January. I wouldn't be surprised that Kremlin used the pandemic and the disinformation about it that it was pumping out to Western rightoids as Kremlin's 'podgotovka' for Ukraine invasion.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @HA

    “I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that some Kremlin assets were behind the Freedom Convoy in Canada…”

    I didn’t realize until today that Ebony Obelisk might also be a Russian asset. Why pay a dozen trolls to try and sway opinions with their broken English, when just one reverse-psychology false-flag account can, with nothing more than a post or two per thread, outdo all their hard work and then some?

  273. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Buffalo Joe

    "More highly praised trash"

    I know a few Tarantino acolytes; I could never understand their devotion. However, Jackie Brown (1997), adapted from an Elmore Leonard novel, is very entertaining. And his 2019 release, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, is a perfect distillation of all of his passions, perversions, quirks, and hang-ups. It is intensely personal and, so far, his only truly great film. IMHO.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Sunny, nice reply, “Jackie Brown” was on the other night, far less bloodshed than in a usual QT film. I call it blood porn, did not invent the term but it fits most of his work. Stay safe

  274. @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    The basic idea of "Cyrano" is that he's a great romantic hero, poet and swordsman, who should be able to get the beautiful girl, except he has a really funny looking nose, which is comic-tragic.

    I like the idea of dwarf Peter Dinklage, who as Alden says has a very powerful male presence, playing Cyrano. After all, the nose thing is trivial compared to being a dwarf.

    But they would have to figure out something else besides swordfighting for him to be great at.

    There was an 18th Century court dwarf who became one of the leading rococo architects, François de Cuvilliés, so, yeah, combine the two characters. Have Cyrano be a brilliant architect designing palaces, but he still can't get the girl.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Twinkie, @Alden

    In Game of Thrones Dinklage didn’t fight hand to hand which would be very unrealistic. Instead he did tactics and strategy during the battles. The trailer was the first fight scene in the theater. Ridiculous. And the next fight scene will be when Cyrano and a friend were ambushed in the street by dozens of thugs. And kill them all.
    There are many parts Dinklage could play. Duelist isn’t one of them.

    And Christian de Neuvillette as a black man. Not even an explanation that he’s a Haiti mulatto. And about a 5 out of 10 in looks.

  275. @Alden
    @zacie

    I saw the trailer. The black unknown is not even near good looking. With untended messy hair. The whole point of the story is that Christian was extremely good looking. I hope no one goes to see it. And a dwarf playing one of the best swordsmen in France against normal size men. Boxing bull fighting tennis fighting lots of activities including sword fighting the longer the arms the more advantage. Bull fighter scouts look for kids with long arms. Same for fencing baseball lots of things.

    They were all real people. Cyrano was gay had syphilis of the anus. And really did have a very large nose for which he was teased as a kid. Write some books. Experimented with rockets. The real Madeline was one of the learned ladies. Interested in fine language and the Academy that wrote dictionaries and codified the rules of grammar. And elevating the tail end of rough medieval society into good manners fine cooking etc.

    Boycott MGM

    Replies: @Adept, @Paperback Writer, @Jim Don Bob

    I went to see Licorice Pizza the latest film by Paul Thomas Anderson. If you like his movies, and I do, you will like it too. It’s male star is Cooper Hoffman, son of the late and gone too soon Philip Seymour Hoffman.

    They showed the trailer for Cyrano. The dwarf is Peter Dinklage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dinklage) who had one of the juiciest roles in Game of Thrones as Tyrion Lannister. Favorite quote: “I drink, and I know things”.

    The friend Christian is the interchangeable nappy headed black guy seen on half the commercials on TV as a brain surgeon, a financial advisor, some white chick’s husband, giving advice to some retarded white guy, und so weiter.

  276. @Twinkie
    @Harry Baldwin


    There used to be a Red under every bed, but now there’s a Nazi under every bedsheet.
     
    Everything in the news in this country is Holocaust morality play.

    There is a Holocaust Memorial right in the imperial capital - and in just about every city of size - as a reminder to all right-thinking Americans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JMcG, @Brutusale

    And always in a place where it shouldn’t be, like smack dab in the middle of the Faneuil Hall area in Boston.

    Move the abomination to Brookline or Newton where it belongs.

  277. @Alden
    @Adept

    That actor, Peter Dinklage is a great actor and has a very powerful male presence. When he’s sitting down or not in a full shot with others. But dwarfs have normal bodies just really short legs and arms. Like Hispanic Indians that are mostly Indians. It’s the short legs that make them short. Plus he’s obviously middle aged.

    I hope it’s as much a disaster as the black Anne Boleyn.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    Funny about the current context. I just saw a clip of Dinklage on Graham Norton’s BBC America show, and he talked about Game of Thrones and all the fighting, where being a noncombatant was unheroic for his character. The producers wanted him to fight, too, but when they put him in a battle it looked ridiculous. He said they basically admitted defeat, had him chop off someone’s leg in the battle scene, and never had him do another fight scene.

  278. @Old Prude
    @Steve Sailer

    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.

    Elves, on the other hand...

    Replies: @Muggles, @Alden

    Wizard of Oz was midgets not dwarves. And yes they behaved just like all the normal size actors and crew on every movie and TV set. The hotel where they lived during the filming is still there.

  279. @HA
    @BB753

    "In contrast, Joe Biden can barely hold in his pee and other excretions in public. Never mind remembering facts or speaking coherently. And he’s only 8 years his senior."

    Joe Biden has only one job right now, which is to not be Trump, and even at his current level of dotage, he might be able to pull that off. Whereas Putin is actually trying to juggle all those balls. If he pulls it off, he'll get that border with NATO he says he doesn't want, which is a dubious trophy at best, but if he blows it, he's not going to get a pass (anywhere outside Russia and unz-dot-com) for being almost as old as Biden.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    This might be the dumbest thing ever posted here. If anything, people expecting only of Biden that he not be Trump is precisely the problem.
    What juggling? We’ve been exposed as a paper tiger here. That’s all he had to worry about His only worry should be if crazy people get control of our government.

    Oh shit…

    • Replies: @HA
    @Dennis Dale

    "What juggling? We’ve been exposed as a paper tiger here."

    You're good at seeing exactly what you want to see. Apparently, Ukraine is so free of corruption, dead prostitutes and other kompromat that Putin, with all his KGB training, wasn't able to blackmail/bribe/entice enough of their politicians to get what he wanted. And we're talking about a country where close to the majority speaks Russian as their native language. Does that make sense to anyone? And yet, despite all that going for him, he decides that a military invasion is the only way to break Ukraine off their insatiable craving for Nuland's pastries?

    How many tanks did the US have to roll into Poland in order to force them into NATO kicking and screaming against their will? Now THAT is power. I don't think the Poles are regretting that choice just yet, and whatever happens in the next week won't be the last shoe to drop. And Biden's keen insight, or abject lack thereof, won't change that.

  280. @JMcG
    @Twinkie

    The Rwandan genocide seems completely forgotten these days. I wonder why.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    For the same reason that the Russian shelling of the Chechen city of Grozny for several months was never extensively reported – no CNN libtards there to transmit carefully staged victim pictures complete with undamaged Elmo dolls.

  281. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    LOL, a lot of people predicted that Putin would invade. You're right, Unz posters don't work.

    And as for being embarrassed that people comment on a site that publishes Andrew Anglin and moon-landing disinformation bullshit, um, motes and beams, Jack my boy. GFTO of here if you dislike the environment.

    Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong

    GFTO of here if you dislike the environment.

    We may lose patience and get involved into a heated argument sometimes. I call someone a “troll” because he or she says someone outrageous and whose only purpose to start a useless spitting contest. Who the hell are you to talk like this? This is a place for free exchange of opinions.

  282. @Dumbo
    @Steve Sailer

    In a way, it does. Many "neo-nazis" in the US were Jewish or Jewish funded too. It's a useful boogeyman.

    Anyway, perhaps Steve should focus on pronouns and capitalizations and golf, and leave foreign affairs to others who understand the issue better? His flippant tone is not suited to serious analysis.

    Not that I know much better. I just like Putin, as opposed to Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, Biden etc. At least he's doing things for Russians and is loved by Russians in his nation and abroad. Can't say the same of any current Western leaders.

    Replies: @Somnambule

    Anyway, perhaps Steve should focus on pronouns and capitalizations and golf and leave foreign affairs to others who understand the issue better? His flippant tone is not suited to serious analysis.

    There is so much more to Mr. Sailor than grammar and golf. Still, he sometimes leaves his formidable insight at the water’s edge. Example: decades ago, he loved, loved Margaret Thatcher – he should have sided with Enoch Powel instead and denounce that silly woman.
    Hitlerism is a subset of Naziism, I think. During his war in the East, A.H. took out of the breeding population millions of fellow Aryans – together with the tainted “Asiatics” – let God sort them out. Some may have been near-perfect specimens (their skulls and bones measured with a caliper), but they were loyal to their country and did not even speak German. And, of course, Adolf sacrificed his guys without mercy.
    Vladimir Putin will not be able to denazify Galicia (an undeservedly unlucky and unhappy territory). That said, and check it out, Mr. Sailor, too many Hitlerites hail from there, and president Ze does not control them.

  283. This is a problem with having boogeymen that are widely considered outside of ethical considerations. It’s one thing to have the archetype of Nazis as villains in movies, but bad actors like Putin or wokels can call anyone a Nazi. If the label sticks, they can do anything they want to them to general applause. Even if “they’re Nazis” does not stick in general, it will stick with some people and be disinformation, chaffe in understanding the world for other people.

    Slightly off-topic, given the behavior of American Jewish economists helping Russian Jewish oligarchs strip the country bare, having previously had a heavily-Jewish totalitarian regime, why are the Russians not more anti-semitic? Is it the stench of Nazism? Is it that there is next to no entrepreneurial spirit in Russian gentiles? Are the Russians such cold, amoral pragmatists that they think that of course, you conspire with your friends to steal everything down to the basement and sell it for scrap that there are no hard feelings?

    [MORE]

    After the revolution, how did ethnic Russians take the Party and state aparatuses from the, as Spandrel has called them, the bioleninists? That takeover may hold lessons for a patriotic revival here,

    Seriously, GW Bush should be up in the pantheon of terrible Presidents. Remember how we turned the defeated Germans into American satrapies in such a way that the West Germans were basically happy with their system? If the same WASPs had been running the country in 1995 as in 1945, we could have turned post-Russia into a fairly decent place. I realize the raw material humans were culturally and biologically not up to German standards, but it seems like we did not even try with Russia. We didn’t send technologists or business types, the people whose skill at building industries creates the wealth that economists seek to funnel to their friends and sponsors.

    Like, there’s a factory in Minsk that shoes. By Western standards, these are inferior shoes. They are worth less on the market than the leather used to make them. So, send in some guys who can run a shoe factory! How to divvy up ownership might be difficult, but as a start, every worker owns 100 shares (and American sponsors own a big chunk of the company) In five years, they can play financial games with the capital. But for now, the American advisors turn the shoe factory into a state-of-the-art shoe factory.

    Why did we not create a provisional government in Russia? We did it in Germany. Not an occupying army to strip the country bare, but to teach them the American way. Which is a lot more than a stock market. Was it because the ideals and behaviors that made America great had already been lost to the Me Decade and financialization?

    We acted as if capital markets create the economy. No! Production is what creates the economy. That layer, the means of production, determines how wealthy a society is in material terms. Was it because the capitalists had China? China certainly had a lot of potential. Their diaspora was successful. They were not as drunken or corrupt as the Russians?

  284. @KevinsAccount
    @Jack D

    What a tiresome liar you are.

    Hua said: "A key question here is what role the U.S., the culprit of current tensions surrounding Ukraine, has played"

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Jack of course quoted selectively – but the WaPo article itself was misleading. Here’s a better article:

    https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/russia-and-ukraine-the-view-from-china/

    Hua Chunying added, regarding the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of February 4, 2022, “We would like to ask the US side to read it carefully. China and Russia strengthened strategic communication and coordination.”

    She said not one thing that indicates China disapproves of the invasion. She simply said that Russia does its own thing, China isn’t a factor.

  285. @Dieter Kief
    @Jack D


    But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don’t think so.

     

    P.J. O'Rourke once had it this way: You don't win much today via war because territory does make no big difference. His major example was Singapur: No territory, all riches. His conclusion: "War does not work any longer. (...) Modern nations do not triumph by conquering foreign territories and by bringing foeign people under their control." - It's productivity that matters now, he concludes (in The Multicultural Society - Bosnia 1992 - his unbelieveably good essay/reportage hybrid about the Balkan wars - a masterpiece (one of the texts of our times that could well be read hundred years from now - studied & admired too).

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Craken

    Territory makes no difference to non-sovereign toy countries like Singapore. To sovereign countries it still matters, because physical resources matter in maintaining actual sovereignty. Singapore exists at the pleasure of the Globalist American Empire. Russia and China exist in spite of the GAE. They are sovereign. But, without continental scale territory they could not long sustain true independence of the global hegemon.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Craken


    Singapore exists at the pleasure of the Globalist American Empire.

     

    That's true. O'Rourke's point stands though that with regard to the globalized economy, soft power is what makes the big difference. O'Rourke's reflections were aimed at the small nation states in (now former...) Yogoslavia. - Owning a bit more or a bit less of it makes hardly any difference, but that was, what the war there was about in the end. In this regard, it was a completely futile effort. And O'Rourke saw that right away. His Bosnia essay The Multicultural Society from 1992**** is the work of a truely and way above average insightful writer (in other times one would hav equite easily claled him a gnius - maybe some later times will).


    **** In his book All the Trouble in the World
  286. @Dennis Dale
    @HA

    This might be the dumbest thing ever posted here. If anything, people expecting only of Biden that he not be Trump is precisely the problem.
    What juggling? We've been exposed as a paper tiger here. That's all he had to worry about His only worry should be if crazy people get control of our government.


    Oh shit...

    Replies: @HA

    “What juggling? We’ve been exposed as a paper tiger here.”

    You’re good at seeing exactly what you want to see. Apparently, Ukraine is so free of corruption, dead prostitutes and other kompromat that Putin, with all his KGB training, wasn’t able to blackmail/bribe/entice enough of their politicians to get what he wanted. And we’re talking about a country where close to the majority speaks Russian as their native language. Does that make sense to anyone? And yet, despite all that going for him, he decides that a military invasion is the only way to break Ukraine off their insatiable craving for Nuland’s pastries?

    How many tanks did the US have to roll into Poland in order to force them into NATO kicking and screaming against their will? Now THAT is power. I don’t think the Poles are regretting that choice just yet, and whatever happens in the next week won’t be the last shoe to drop. And Biden’s keen insight, or abject lack thereof, won’t change that.

  287. @Muggles
    @Old Prude


    Any movie with dwarves (real dwarves, not GCI LOTRing dwarves) is degenerate.

    Wizard of Oz. I rest my case.
     
    "Wizard of Oz" degenerate? Those Munchkins made that movie!

    Wow, you don't get out much.

    They've made tons of movies since Birth of a Nation....

    Or perhaps "Triumph of the Will" is more your taste?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Wow, you don’t get out much.

    And he should know that it’s dwarfs, not dwarves. At least in real life. Tolkien and Disney’s spelling has taken over fantasy.

  288. @duncsbaby
    @neutral

    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.

    The law as it stands today requires illegal aliens to register for the draft:

    Immigrant Men Are Required to Register
    With very few exceptions, all immigrant males between ages 18 and 25 are required by law to register with the Selective Service System (SSS) within 30 days of arriving in the United States. This includes naturalized citizens, parolees, undocumented immigrants, legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, refugees, and all males with visas more than 30 days expired.

    Non-Immigrant Foreigners
    Non-immigrant men living in the United States on a valid visa are not required to register for as long as they remain on a valid visa up until they turn 26. If you have received a letter from us requesting that you register, please send us copies of supporting documentation to show you are exempt.

    https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Reg Cæsar


    The law as it stands today requires illegal aliens to register for the draft:
     
    Yes, in my befuddled way I was acknowledging that but don't bet on Biden and Dems in congress abrogating that if there was a draft. Right now, I don't think there will be a draft, but events are changing fast as we can all see. I'm sure you will agree that the number of illegal immigrant men who register with the draft is around zero.
  289. @Reg Cæsar
    @duncsbaby


    If there was a draft of all able bodied men, 18-35, whether citizen or not, that would get rid of a lot of the illegal immigrant chaff. Almost certainly there will be no draft, or if there is it will be citizen only, illegal immigrants enjoying another benefit.
     
    The law as it stands today requires illegal aliens to register for the draft:


    Immigrant Men Are Required to Register
    With very few exceptions, all immigrant males between ages 18 and 25 are required by law to register with the Selective Service System (SSS) within 30 days of arriving in the United States. This includes naturalized citizens, parolees, undocumented immigrants, legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, refugees, and all males with visas more than 30 days expired.

    Non-Immigrant Foreigners
    Non-immigrant men living in the United States on a valid visa are not required to register for as long as they remain on a valid visa up until they turn 26. If you have received a letter from us requesting that you register, please send us copies of supporting documentation to show you are exempt.

    https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/
     

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    The law as it stands today requires illegal aliens to register for the draft:

    Yes, in my befuddled way I was acknowledging that but don’t bet on Biden and Dems in congress abrogating that if there was a draft. Right now, I don’t think there will be a draft, but events are changing fast as we can all see. I’m sure you will agree that the number of illegal immigrant men who register with the draft is around zero.

  290. @michael droy
    This is stupid.
    Read the OSCE reports for the past 8 years.
    The Azov military group has been shelling civilians in Donbas for 8 solid years, and this increased by a factor of 10 in the last week.
    They wear Nazi insignia so calling them nazi is perfectly correct.
    They believe it is correct nationalist policy to kill an ethnic group based on identity - which makes the Nazi in every definition.

    The real issue is why people obsess with the Right Wing in US as being nazis when the Democrat leadership has been sending weapons and Special forces trainers to Azov.
    There are dozens of media photos of US officials under Obama and Biden with Azov military wearing Nazi insignia. Dozens.

    Replies: @Exile

    They wear Nazi insignia so calling them nazi is perfectly correct.

    Joe Biden wears the title of President and uses the Presidential seal and the American flag. Is he your President?

    It’s almost like symbols can be misused as false flags.

    They believe it is correct nationalist policy to kill an ethnic group based on identity – which makes the Nazi in every definition.

    Everything you think you know about the Holocaust and WWII is a lie.

    How much political traction have you ever gained with “Dems R the Real Nazis?” It’s a purpose-built hill for conservative dupes to die on. Stop falling for these sophomoric tricks.

  291. @Exile
    @JimDandy

    No one including Putin believes that the Azov Battalion are Hitlerian National Socialists.

    They're the Praetorian Guard for a Jewish comedian who gets his punch lines from America's Ashkepathic "Ukrainian" diaspora - phoning it in from their "refugee" shelters in the Department of Defense, State Department and American think-tanks.

    Putin is just getting his share of the legitimacy gibs that being "anti-fascist" gets you on today's world stage. The US and Israel have both been dining out on that card for years - ask Dresden, Nagasaki and Lebanon.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I get the gist of what you’re saying, but the contemporary Ukie factions who favor Nazi iconography/energy are just philosemites in SS drag? What is the logic of such a ruse?

    • Replies: @Exile
    @JimDandy

    The Azov Battalion numbers in the mid-hundreds at best and they have smaller groups that orbit them. They're a hodgepodge of criminals, fringe personalities, fame-seekers and fantasists - spiritual cousins of Antifa rather than the SS.

    If they had a genuine National Socialist bone in their bodies they would not fight for a Jewish leader in a puppet dynasty first established in a foreign-led coup. They would fight for their own unambiguously ethnic Ukrainian leaders to take power.

    In terms of false-flagging, they are hijacking the fascist legacy and prestige of commie-fighting.

    And Putin is cynically using their alleged fascism as additional moral leverage since "punching Nazis" is the highest sacrament of the neoliberal world religion.

    I don't really blame him since it's low-hanging fruit but he spent enough time in Eastern Europe with the KGB to know how small Euro-fascist movements really are.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  292. @houston 1992
    @Dieter Kief

    By seizing the Ukraine, RU is now the OPEC of food controlling 30% of world wheat market, 20% of corn.
    Putin now gives himself more strategic depth.

    Nordstream 2 pipeline: will the Germans turn it one, or not? hardly matters now as RU will control the pipelines that run across the Ukraine with no more risk of excess siphoning or transit fees.

    Seizing land and making ones country an even stronger commodity super power seems useful in the real world of things. You cannot make semiconductor chips without Russian Neon gas for litho and lasers, package the parts without scarce Palladium. Boeing is reliant on a RU supplier for Titanium and Aluminum and apparently the geniuses who run the strategic metal reserve have allowed Titanium inventory to approach zero. Finding new supplies and requalifying the refining process to meet stringent QA specifications is not a short or simple task

    We still live in a material world where matter, chemistry , Newtonian physics rule. As Elon Musk told Joe Rogan "if you want things then you need to make things." If you want a country then one needs to control ones borders.
    I suppose one could call this point of view

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Good points.

    Anatoly Karlin said, Putin would march into Ukraine months ago.
    One of his main points was, that it would be easy for him****. And could be cost effetive.

    Could turn out that way. But the prize Putinpays is high. Russia’s main trade aprtners are all in the West.

    How do the Poles and the Batic states look at this? – They need good nerves.
    Sweden alerted it’s navy! – Five battle ships or so…

    ****culturally too. Karlin said, Kiev would be the cultural heart of Russia – much more so than Moscow.

  293. @Craken
    @Dieter Kief

    Territory makes no difference to non-sovereign toy countries like Singapore. To sovereign countries it still matters, because physical resources matter in maintaining actual sovereignty. Singapore exists at the pleasure of the Globalist American Empire. Russia and China exist in spite of the GAE. They are sovereign. But, without continental scale territory they could not long sustain true independence of the global hegemon.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Singapore exists at the pleasure of the Globalist American Empire.

    That’s true. O’Rourke’s point stands though that with regard to the globalized economy, soft power is what makes the big difference. O’Rourke’s reflections were aimed at the small nation states in (now former…) Yogoslavia. – Owning a bit more or a bit less of it makes hardly any difference, but that was, what the war there was about in the end. In this regard, it was a completely futile effort. And O’Rourke saw that right away. His Bosnia essay The Multicultural Society from 1992**** is the work of a truely and way above average insightful writer (in other times one would hav equite easily claled him a gnius – maybe some later times will).

    **** In his book All the Trouble in the World

  294. @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    That movie was so juvenile.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    It was beyond juvenile – it was pathetic. It’s essentially “men without chests” cheering for a fantasy version of their forebears kicking ass onscreen when in reality they marched like helpless sheep to death.

    Tarantino is no different than other Hollywood creatures. Earlier he made films pandering to blacks and Jews (of them kicking Southern white and Nazi asses, respectively). Recently he sniffed the wind of white resentment and nostalgia and made a movie about a rugged, handsome white guy playing a sidekick, but being the real hero.

    He does this all the while ripping off styles from others (e.g. Hong Kong action films, etc.). And let’s not forget his long association with Harvey Weinstein and how he backpedals on that relationship now. Typical Hollywood slimy.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    You ever seen the Russian film "White Tiger"? I found it a refreshing contrast to Hollywood WWII flicks that treat the viewers like idiots. Naydanov's (root in East Slavic languages: "nothing") character is apparently supposed to elicit parallels with Saint Sebastian, and the implicit yet unstated tension with official state atheism was pretty well done. Also, Hitler's monologue at the end about war being the fundamental state of humanity comes directly from real life conversation with the Bulgarian ambassador in Berlin.

    Anyway, yeah, I agree. But it's also juvenile, on top of that. You aren't a war hero by carving into the foreheads of hapless teenage conscripts, you are either charitably a torturer sending a message, or less charitably, a bully too cowardly to vent his spleen in field operations. I've got no problem with juvenile productions (one of my daydreams involves using one of them to make me rich and to make liberals meltdown in public: it involves really embarrassing the whole black fetishization deal), but the way people were talking back when, you'd think Tarantino remade Ben-Hur or something. It was just so friggin' stupid.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  295. @JimDandy
    @Exile

    I get the gist of what you're saying, but the contemporary Ukie factions who favor Nazi iconography/energy are just philosemites in SS drag? What is the logic of such a ruse?

    Replies: @Exile

    The Azov Battalion numbers in the mid-hundreds at best and they have smaller groups that orbit them. They’re a hodgepodge of criminals, fringe personalities, fame-seekers and fantasists – spiritual cousins of Antifa rather than the SS.

    If they had a genuine National Socialist bone in their bodies they would not fight for a Jewish leader in a puppet dynasty first established in a foreign-led coup. They would fight for their own unambiguously ethnic Ukrainian leaders to take power.

    In terms of false-flagging, they are hijacking the fascist legacy and prestige of commie-fighting.

    And Putin is cynically using their alleged fascism as additional moral leverage since “punching Nazis” is the highest sacrament of the neoliberal world religion.

    I don’t really blame him since it’s low-hanging fruit but he spent enough time in Eastern Europe with the KGB to know how small Euro-fascist movements really are.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Exile

    People are saying bad things about the fringe personalities and fantasists:

    "Defense Spokesman of the Donetsk People's Republic Eduard Basurin is claiming that the Azov bataillon and other units of the Ukrainian National Guard are blocking local civilians from leaving Mariupol... Just opening fire at random civilians trying to drive away, oh man
    In awe at Azov's determination to commit as many war crimes as possible in the time they still have."

  296. @Dumbo
    @Hypnotoad666


    Russia (which has a GDP about equal to Italy).
     
    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?

    Perhaps rating countries according to "GDP" is not that great. Having a large territory and lots of oil and gas and a nationalistic leader and good weapons seems more important in the long run...

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?

    Supposedly, with \$1.6B GDP Russia is #11, below Italy (#9) and wedged between Canada (#10) and South Korea (#12). GDP is a good measure of what a country could afford to pay to assert itself, if it wanted. But it is true that Russia is willing to pay a higher percentage of that GDP for military and has a greater will to assert itself. So, no doubt it punches above its GDP weight in geopolitics.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Hypnotoad666

    Russia actually bothered to invest in a real military. It's not our fault that most European countries don't. You don't get to have an American style high-tech projecting machine at 2% of the GDP outside of dreams.

    (Our Asian allies have their issues, but none of them-none-would do something analogous with the Chinese as the Germans did with shutting down their nuclear plants, leading to Russian gas dependence. You don't *get* to whine to us about bailing you out if you do such things-or at least you shouldn't in a sane world. Some go well beyond "don't do stupid crap": Vietnam has locked out Huawei.)

    Our elites are running into a very inconvenient reality: enough Americans agree with Donald Trump on foreign policy to the point where NYT articles talking about "responsibilities" abroad might as well function as GOP talking points. Enough that a more hygienic, serious version of Trump who doesn't rely off figures like Second Lady Kushner can exploit that politically. Now that the neocons are increasingly a Democratic albatross...

  297. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    It was beyond juvenile - it was pathetic. It’s essentially “men without chests” cheering for a fantasy version of their forebears kicking ass onscreen when in reality they marched like helpless sheep to death.

    Tarantino is no different than other Hollywood creatures. Earlier he made films pandering to blacks and Jews (of them kicking Southern white and Nazi asses, respectively). Recently he sniffed the wind of white resentment and nostalgia and made a movie about a rugged, handsome white guy playing a sidekick, but being the real hero.

    He does this all the while ripping off styles from others (e.g. Hong Kong action films, etc.). And let’s not forget his long association with Harvey Weinstein and how he backpedals on that relationship now. Typical Hollywood slimy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    You ever seen the Russian film “White Tiger”? I found it a refreshing contrast to Hollywood WWII flicks that treat the viewers like idiots. Naydanov’s (root in East Slavic languages: “nothing”) character is apparently supposed to elicit parallels with Saint Sebastian, and the implicit yet unstated tension with official state atheism was pretty well done. Also, Hitler’s monologue at the end about war being the fundamental state of humanity comes directly from real life conversation with the Bulgarian ambassador in Berlin.

    Anyway, yeah, I agree. But it’s also juvenile, on top of that. You aren’t a war hero by carving into the foreheads of hapless teenage conscripts, you are either charitably a torturer sending a message, or less charitably, a bully too cowardly to vent his spleen in field operations. I’ve got no problem with juvenile productions (one of my daydreams involves using one of them to make me rich and to make liberals meltdown in public: it involves really embarrassing the whole black fetishization deal), but the way people were talking back when, you’d think Tarantino remade Ben-Hur or something. It was just so friggin’ stupid.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @nebulafox

    Apparently the story of the white Tiger tank is even based off a real life Waffen-SS tank ace at Kursk, Franz Staudegger. That I didn't know.

  298. @Hypnotoad666
    @Dumbo


    People keep saying that, but, is it true? And does it matter?
     
    Supposedly, with $1.6B GDP Russia is #11, below Italy (#9) and wedged between Canada (#10) and South Korea (#12). GDP is a good measure of what a country could afford to pay to assert itself, if it wanted. But it is true that Russia is willing to pay a higher percentage of that GDP for military and has a greater will to assert itself. So, no doubt it punches above its GDP weight in geopolitics.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Russia actually bothered to invest in a real military. It’s not our fault that most European countries don’t. You don’t get to have an American style high-tech projecting machine at 2% of the GDP outside of dreams.

    (Our Asian allies have their issues, but none of them-none-would do something analogous with the Chinese as the Germans did with shutting down their nuclear plants, leading to Russian gas dependence. You don’t *get* to whine to us about bailing you out if you do such things-or at least you shouldn’t in a sane world. Some go well beyond “don’t do stupid crap”: Vietnam has locked out Huawei.)

    Our elites are running into a very inconvenient reality: enough Americans agree with Donald Trump on foreign policy to the point where NYT articles talking about “responsibilities” abroad might as well function as GOP talking points. Enough that a more hygienic, serious version of Trump who doesn’t rely off figures like Second Lady Kushner can exploit that politically. Now that the neocons are increasingly a Democratic albatross…

  299. @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    You ever seen the Russian film "White Tiger"? I found it a refreshing contrast to Hollywood WWII flicks that treat the viewers like idiots. Naydanov's (root in East Slavic languages: "nothing") character is apparently supposed to elicit parallels with Saint Sebastian, and the implicit yet unstated tension with official state atheism was pretty well done. Also, Hitler's monologue at the end about war being the fundamental state of humanity comes directly from real life conversation with the Bulgarian ambassador in Berlin.

    Anyway, yeah, I agree. But it's also juvenile, on top of that. You aren't a war hero by carving into the foreheads of hapless teenage conscripts, you are either charitably a torturer sending a message, or less charitably, a bully too cowardly to vent his spleen in field operations. I've got no problem with juvenile productions (one of my daydreams involves using one of them to make me rich and to make liberals meltdown in public: it involves really embarrassing the whole black fetishization deal), but the way people were talking back when, you'd think Tarantino remade Ben-Hur or something. It was just so friggin' stupid.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Apparently the story of the white Tiger tank is even based off a real life Waffen-SS tank ace at Kursk, Franz Staudegger. That I didn’t know.

  300. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Brutusale

    It's not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it's still the one on your passport and on any government checks you're lucky to get, but it doesn't belong to you.

    NATO should have been disbanded in 1993. Europe should have been told guns or butter, choose one. US economists should not have committed grotesque economic malpractice in Russia. Yeltsin's successor would have been another genial populist, not a byzantine ex-KGB determined to reverse his country's decline.

    How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way--in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?

    To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn't worth World War 3. But then they shouldn't have engaged in such bombastic rhetoric, knowing Putin's ultimatum, and that they had no intention of combat operations against Russia.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “It’s not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it’s still the one on your passport and on any government checks you’re lucky to get, but it doesn’t belong to you.”

    It is. our country, as in you and me and u.s. Just because you and a few knuckleheads feel differently does not negate the fact I laid out.

    “How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way–in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?”

    They’re defending their sovereignty. It’s really fascinating that you are essentially supporting an an ex-KGB Deep Stater. Ironic that you are essentially supporting Russia meddling–no less by an oligarch–in someone else’s internal affairs, which is what you bitterly opposed when Bush the Junior got into Iraq for gimmedats and free stuff.

    “To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn’t worth World War 3.”

    Why not? The rapture would be glorious. Globohomo would finally be defeated. Isn’t that the ultimate end goal?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Corvinus

    They’re defending their sovereignty.

    By suppressing the sovereignty of Donetsk and Luhansk?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  301. @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "It’s not your country. Your country no longer exists. Oh, it’s still the one on your passport and on any government checks you’re lucky to get, but it doesn’t belong to you."

    It is. our country, as in you and me and u.s. Just because you and a few knuckleheads feel differently does not negate the fact I laid out.

    "How is the patriotic Ukrainian military doing, by the way–in full berserker mode for the Motherland or studiously figuring out how not to get killed?"

    They're defending their sovereignty. It's really fascinating that you are essentially supporting an an ex-KGB Deep Stater. Ironic that you are essentially supporting Russia meddling--no less by an oligarch--in someone else's internal affairs, which is what you bitterly opposed when Bush the Junior got into Iraq for gimmedats and free stuff.

    "To its credit, the Biden politburo withdrew our troops to Poland; Ukraine isn’t worth World War 3."

    Why not? The rapture would be glorious. Globohomo would finally be defeated. Isn't that the ultimate end goal?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    They’re defending their sovereignty.

    By suppressing the sovereignty of Donetsk and Luhansk?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @JimDandy

    No, by making their own decisions within their territorial boundaries.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  302. @Exile
    @JimDandy

    The Azov Battalion numbers in the mid-hundreds at best and they have smaller groups that orbit them. They're a hodgepodge of criminals, fringe personalities, fame-seekers and fantasists - spiritual cousins of Antifa rather than the SS.

    If they had a genuine National Socialist bone in their bodies they would not fight for a Jewish leader in a puppet dynasty first established in a foreign-led coup. They would fight for their own unambiguously ethnic Ukrainian leaders to take power.

    In terms of false-flagging, they are hijacking the fascist legacy and prestige of commie-fighting.

    And Putin is cynically using their alleged fascism as additional moral leverage since "punching Nazis" is the highest sacrament of the neoliberal world religion.

    I don't really blame him since it's low-hanging fruit but he spent enough time in Eastern Europe with the KGB to know how small Euro-fascist movements really are.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    People are saying bad things about the fringe personalities and fantasists:

    “Defense Spokesman of the Donetsk People’s Republic Eduard Basurin is claiming that the Azov bataillon and other units of the Ukrainian National Guard are blocking local civilians from leaving Mariupol… Just opening fire at random civilians trying to drive away, oh man
    In awe at Azov’s determination to commit as many war crimes as possible in the time they still have.”

  303. @Jack D
    @Sean


    There is a US missile base in Poland opening later this year and it would be 300 seconds hypersonic flight time from Moscow
     
    How does conquering Ukraine change this? Putin has increased, not decreased the NATO threat to Russia. NATO in E. Europe existed mainly on paper - the US had maybe a few hundred troops in Poland. Now it's going to be real. Those missiles are anti-missile missiles to protect from Iran, not offensive weapons - we would have allowed Russia to inspect them (in a mutual treaty). But now there's no deal possible. Maybe now they will be reprogrammed or different ones brought in.

    Putin is going to win Round 1 - that's a foregone conclusion. But the real question is whether this is going to help the Russian people in the long run. I don't think so.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dieter Kief, @Sean, @Sam Haysom

    This is round two. Round 1 was when the CIA swiped Ukraine from Putin for like 5 million bucks during the Olympic Games. Putin is now gonna spend 5 billion and complete international vilification rectifying that. Lol what a brilliant strategist. Boomer paleos are reaching Hotep levels of delusion in the praise of Putin. Makes them look so low IQ and weak.

  304. @JimDandy
    @Corvinus

    They’re defending their sovereignty.

    By suppressing the sovereignty of Donetsk and Luhansk?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    No, by making their own decisions within their territorial boundaries.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Corvinus

    Have any of those decisions been to fuck with people who assert their own territorial boundaries?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  305. @Corvinus
    @JimDandy

    No, by making their own decisions within their territorial boundaries.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Have any of those decisions been to fuck with people who assert their own territorial boundaries?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @JimDandy

    Ask the Ukrainians who are dying to defend their soil.

    Ask the Russians at St. Petersburg who are protesting Putin’s war.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  306. @JimDandy
    @Corvinus

    Have any of those decisions been to fuck with people who assert their own territorial boundaries?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Ask the Ukrainians who are dying to defend their soil.

    Ask the Russians at St. Petersburg who are protesting Putin’s war.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Corvinus

    I'd ask the Russian-speakers who were burned alive after the coup our Neocons orchestrated, but they're, you know, dead.

    "Many of those who attacked and burned the building wore swastikas and other fascist insignias, according to observers. Eye witnesses said that the fascists were armed with bats, shields, and metal chains and that the people inside the union hall had run there for protection from them. After the attack by the rightists streets around the trade union headquarters were reportedly stained with the blood of those who had jumped from windows to escape the flames."

  307. @Corvinus
    @JimDandy

    Ask the Ukrainians who are dying to defend their soil.

    Ask the Russians at St. Petersburg who are protesting Putin’s war.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I’d ask the Russian-speakers who were burned alive after the coup our Neocons orchestrated, but they’re, you know, dead.

    “Many of those who attacked and burned the building wore swastikas and other fascist insignias, according to observers. Eye witnesses said that the fascists were armed with bats, shields, and metal chains and that the people inside the union hall had run there for protection from them. After the attack by the rightists streets around the trade union headquarters were reportedly stained with the blood of those who had jumped from windows to escape the flames.”

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