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On Twitter, Chef Boyhowdy asks:
Wouldn’t tropical, depopulating Puerto Rico make a great “refuge”?
But …
During the Obama Era, 2009-2015, Puerto Rico has taken in ten (10) refugees.
If you stop to think about it from an Electing a New People point of view, however, this all makes sense to Democratic party strategists.
Sure, refugees and their children who become citizens of Puerto Rico get to vote in Puerto Rican gubernatorial elections and they get to vote in Democratic and Republican presidential primaries. But they don’t get to vote in Presidential general elections or Congressional elections, so they are worthless at tipping the balance of power in Washington, which is what really matters.
So, let’s continue sending those tropical refugees to risk frostbite in northern states that matter electorally.
Y’know, a tropical, Spanish-speaking US colony would be a pretty good place to warehouse southern border-crossers who, for complicated legal reasons can’t just be shipped back.
And the Puerto Rican economy could use the subsidy of a huge bureaucratic government boondoggle from the mainland.
Who would want to flee to Puerto Rico? It’s just like The Bronx (a place I happen to be directly across the Hudson River from as I write this), with zero chance of snow ever.
Would housing fake refugees in Puerto Rico create barriers to getting these people qualified for welfare benefits? I assume another big factor is that Puerto Rico doesn’t have any VOLAGs that facilitate refugee resettlement while raking in money for themselves. I would assume another big reason is that the territorial government of Puerto Rico knows that mixing a significant number of people from the Horn of Africa or Syria with native Puero Ricans is going to be rather combustible.
It’s getting pretty depressing that the best way to make sense of recent developments is “whatever is most damaging to people like me”.
https://twitter.com/RefugeeWatcher/status/816258427844489216
Ann Corcoran says Trump can halt the REFUGEE OVERLOAD invasion on day 1 without any congressional input. Trump should stop this REFUGEE OVERLOAD scam within hours of taking office.
Trump should call for an immediate moratorium on all legal immigration. Trump should immediately deport all illegal alien invaders. ATTACK — ATTACK — ATTACK.
Magical KKK members on the Oberlin campus receive immediate national press coverage and are immediately a Trend Proving Racism. It will be interesting to see if the national press identifies the below as a trend with larger implications.
I’ll tune into CNN for more details.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/227116738-story
Er, this could be a matter of self-selection. After all, refugees in MN could move to PR (and be warmer). And refugees in PR could move out.
This is similar to my other comments of the great risk Hungary faces due to a flood of refugees eager to learn a language useless outside of Hungary.
Why isn’t Steve in charge of branding for the altright?
Citizenism > white nationalism
Electing a new people > white genocide
He's as white bread as mom and apple pie. It's the elites (sic) who are alt.Replies: @Percy Gryce
To be fair, who’d wanna go there? Even Puertos flee that place.
Citizenism > white nationalism
Electing a new people > white genocideReplies: @Desiderius
Steve is neither alt nor right.
He’s as white bread as mom and apple pie. It’s the elites (sic) who are alt.
I don’t know about refugees, but I think that PR gets a fair bit of immigration (whether legal or not, I don’t know) from the surrounding Caribbean. When I has in San Juan eight years ago, I had a cab driver who was from the Dominican Republic, and he was very happy to be in Puerto Rico. It was a big step up from where he had come from, as far as he was concerned.
This Univision report from last year says that due the Puerto Rican economic crisis, Puerto Ricans are migrating to the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic has the strongest economy in Latin America. I assume the inability to speak English is one of the main reasons keeping the Puerto Ricans from coming to the US. LINKReplies: @J1234
Nice tweet, Chef! Congratulations on maintaining a collegial relationship with Steve Sailer. Just a reminder, you are always welcome to post with your friends at RRTINDUSTRIES.COM
If this kind of shit keeps up, it is going to awaken a sleeping giant.
> a tropical, Spanish-speaking US colony would be a pretty good place to warehouse southern border-crossers who, for complicated legal reasons can’t just be shipped back.
the Puerto Rico guys would also appreciate it. It would save them the expense of flying to Santo Domingo for a three-day-weekend of pussy.
He's as white bread as mom and apple pie. It's the elites (sic) who are alt.Replies: @Percy Gryce
Sed contra Steve is a man of the right by his own admission. He has broken from (or been purged by) American Conservatism Inc. So he is a man of some other variety of conservatism. If your quibble is with Richard Spenser’s coinage, fine. I find it a useful neologism without in any way subscribing to Spenser’s platform.
Hmm, or how ’bout this? After Calgone (“Take them away!”) succeeds, we make Puerto Rico the Fiftieth State, so we don’t have to change the flag and we just swap in two PR Donk Senators for the two California Donk Senators. Might have to change around the House quite a bit though…
That it is, it just doesn’t apply to Sailer.
Spencer did not coin the term “alt right.”
There used to be a big – and quite violent – separatist movement in Puerto Rico, but now you don’t hear about it anymore.
Could there be a direct correlation between the decline of Puerto Rican separatism and the unsustainability of Puerto Rican national debt?
What's interesting is I've found online there are two camps - 1 that wants to separate and gain its independence and two - a community that thinks of itself as American but that has a deep seated resentment for what they view as Yankee colonialism, or some such.
The 2nd type viciouslywants govt jobs, welfare etc......while not really thinking of themselves as islanders.
Actually, he does seem to have been one of he creators of the original “Alternative Right” website (now defunct) from which the term derives. That said, I think that, contra contemporary Spencer, this term usefully encompassses all contemporary broadly “right wing” thought that is deemed unacceptable by Conservativism, Inc. Efforts by some to “define” who really is or isn’t “alt-right” strike me as akin to the worst sort of circular firing squad mentality endemic to much of the past century’s leftism. By all means debate the issues, and argue for your views, however heterodox they be. But trying to demarcate who really does or doesn’t get to embrace a certain “identity” strikes me as pathetic, something worthy of the sort of person who is “triggered” if Facebook hasn’t included his/her/zher/whatever “gender identity” in its 37 or so options.
Does Puerto Rico emulate this country?
There are no citizens of PR. Puertorricans are US citizens and the island is a territorial possession of the US, not an independent country
Ann Corcoran says Trump can halt the REFUGEE OVERLOAD invasion on day 1 without any congressional input. Trump should stop this REFUGEE OVERLOAD scam within hours of taking office.
Trump should call for an immediate moratorium on all legal immigration. Trump should immediately deport all illegal alien invaders. ATTACK -- ATTACK -- ATTACK.Replies: @Neoconned
Charles it is frightening that this is coming down to an US vs Them sort of dynamic but as Pittsburgh Thatcherite put it – deport as many as possible as quickly as possible…..and even then, it’s just a start…..
the Puerto Rico guys would also appreciate it. It would save them the expense of flying to Santo Domingo for a three-day-weekend of pussy.Replies: @Neoconned
Most of the refugees are men or women with kids not interested in you.
True but PR has its own Olympic team and citizens of PR can actually immigrate to Spain after 2 yrs…..a rule that doesn’t apply to ordinary Americans
I noticed that former Cuban Olympic high jumper, Javier Sotomayer, recently become a Spanish citizen.
Could there be a direct correlation between the decline of Puerto Rican separatism and the unsustainability of Puerto Rican national debt?Replies: @Neoconned
It still exists but it’s been violently suppressed by the FBI & the PR elite.
What’s interesting is I’ve found online there are two camps – 1 that wants to separate and gain its independence and two – a community that thinks of itself as American but that has a deep seated resentment for what they view as Yankee colonialism, or some such.
The 2nd type viciouslywants govt jobs, welfare etc……while not really thinking of themselves as islanders.
This documentary says that there are about 200,000 Dominicans in Puerto Rico, a third are undocumented. The first generation are menial laborers even if they were professionals in the Dominican Republic. The video shows two families where the second generation is university-educated. One old guy got amnesty and US citizenship in the 1980s so his much younger children are US citizens. They think Puerto Rico is the land of milk and honey. LINK
This Univision report from last year says that due the Puerto Rican economic crisis, Puerto Ricans are migrating to the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic has the strongest economy in Latin America. I assume the inability to speak English is one of the main reasons keeping the Puerto Ricans from coming to the US. LINK
Yes, Spain has a special arrangement with citizens from countries where Spanish or Portuguese is the official language, the Philippines, and Andorra. Not only does it just take two years to become a citizen, but new Spaniards are allowed to have dual-citizenship or more, as long as all the countries involved are one of those just mentioned. Media billionaire Gustavo Cisneros is a citizen of the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, and Spain. A non-Puerto Rican US citizen would have to give up their American citizenship in order to become a Spaniard.
I noticed that former Cuban Olympic high jumper, Javier Sotomayer, recently become a Spanish citizen.
And the Puerto Rican economy could use the subsidy of a huge bureaucratic government boondoggle from the mainland.Replies: @Bill Jones
The Puerts were granted voting rights to encourage them to participate in Wilsons attack on Germany.
We need Steve to weigh in and give one of us a Woody Allen-Marshall McLuhan moment: “You know nothing of my work,” etc., etc.
"True Wit is Nature to advantage dress'd
What oft was thought, but ne'er so well express'd;
Something whose truth convinced at sight we find,
That gives us back the image of our mind."
Pope, Essay on Criticism
"what oft was thought" ≠ "alt"Replies: @Percy Gryce
This Univision report from last year says that due the Puerto Rican economic crisis, Puerto Ricans are migrating to the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic has the strongest economy in Latin America. I assume the inability to speak English is one of the main reasons keeping the Puerto Ricans from coming to the US. LINKReplies: @J1234
Wow, interesting. Thanks for the links. The question I asked myself as I watched the videos was, how does the Dominican Republic keep the Haitians out? The answer seems to be pretty straightforward: mass deportation and the (recent) end of birthright citizenship.
http://fpif.org/really-happening-dominican-republic-deporting-haitian-residents/
All I know is that he says the sort of things the best (apolitical/centrist) people I know are saying in the rare cases they can get away with it, he just does so in a wittier way.
“True Wit is Nature to advantage dress’d
What oft was thought, but ne’er so well express’d;
Something whose truth convinced at sight we find,
That gives us back the image of our mind.”
Pope, Essay on Criticism
“what oft was thought” ≠ “alt”
"True Wit is Nature to advantage dress'd
What oft was thought, but ne'er so well express'd;
Something whose truth convinced at sight we find,
That gives us back the image of our mind."
Pope, Essay on Criticism
"what oft was thought" ≠ "alt"Replies: @Percy Gryce
Yes, but, as the cliche goes, common sense isn’t so common anymore.
In fact, isn’t that the meta-theme of iSteve: that common sense, the philosophia perennis, the received wisdom of the ages has been dethroned and that the progressive Megaphone promotes an ideology savagely opposed to that wisdom.
Under that regime, opposing the Megaphone does indeed = “alt.”
This isn’t 17th Century France. Throne ≠ People. Common sense is still pretty common in my neck of the woods.