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From the always-woke MIT Technology Review:

How an overload of riot porn is driving conflict in the streets

Weak organization forced right-wing agitators to rely on video and social media. Now they have a machine to spread a narrative of lawless rioting.

by Joan Donovan

—Joan Donovan is research director at Harvard Kennedy’s Shorenstein Center.
September 3, 2020

… This past summer, the recorded murder of George Floyd—just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake—motivated millions of people worldwide to protest against police brutality. …

And visuals can be just as motivating for the right wing—recently, perhaps even more so.

Because right-wing reactionaries do not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left, they instead rely heavily on social media—particularly Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter—to mobilize crowds. Their efforts to counter the wave of public support for Black Lives Matter protests have made extensive use of this tactic. …

Since the George Floyd protests, conservative media outlets including Fox News (particularly Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity), One America News, Glenn Beck’s BlazeTV, and right-wing YouTubers have been covering Black Lives Matter and other left-wing protests daily, specifically highlighting instances of violence, fighting, and property damage. This coverage has come to dominate the right-wing narrative in a new way, flipping the script to suggest that Black protesters—demonstrating because they fear police violence—are themselves a threat to white people.

Mainstream media bias toward covering violence in protests is well studied, best encapsulated by the saying “If it bleeds, it leads.” Most protests are largely peaceful, but “Citizens gather, grieve, and leave” is no story at all. This directs a disproportionate amount of attention across the entire media ecosystem to violent protesters. Now, with social media as a broadcast system, the right-wing media has upped the ante.

According to analysis I conducted using MediaCloud, a research tool from MIT and Harvard, right-wing media outlets wrote five to six times more articles about Seattle’s “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” than did center or left media. What has been a minor storyline among left-wing audiences has been dramatically overemphasized by right-wing media because these protests provided plenty of visceral content for online content creators.

… These narratives have been intensified and supplemented by the work of right-wing adversarial media-makers like Elijah Schaffer and Andy Ngo, who collect videos of conflict at public protests and recirculate them to their online audiences. Both have even gone “undercover” by posing as protesters to capture footage for their channels, seeking to name and shame those marching. Their videos are edited, decontextualized, and shared among audiences hungry for a new fix of “riot porn,” which instantly goes viral across the right-wing media ecosystem with the aid of influential pundits and politicians, including President Donald Trump. The footage has a hypnotic, almost balletic quality, designed to influence and overwhelm the sense-making capacity of watchers consuming it from a safe distance online.

Riot porn is different from videos of abuse and violence carried out by police, and we should not confuse one for the other.

The latter is helpful to The Cause, while the former is not helpful.

In the recording of the George Floyd murder, the video mobilized hundreds of thousands of people outraged that Floyd’s killer had not been arrested. With riot porn, what moves someone from watching to showing up is the potential for participating in a violent altercation.

Whereas, as we all know, the Peaceful Protesters were peaceful.

… Outrage contagion is why the McCloskeys, the husband-and-wife duo who pointed guns at Black Lives Matter marchers in St. Louis, were motivated to take their bizarre stand.

It had nothing to do with them devoting 30 years to restoring the finest house in St. Louis only to see a mob break down a gate and surge onto private property.

… Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media. …

And yet, as the events of the last week have shown, wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed. … That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available. Nevertheless, the media narrative on the right is clear: antifa must have done it. …

 
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  1. That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available. Nevertheless, the media narrative on the right is clear: antifa must have done it. …

    That didn’t age well at all.

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Cloudbuster


    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.
     
    A year or so ago, the wife signed up for one of those so-many-magazine-subscriptions-for-a-nominal-fee deals that the son of friend of hers was selling to raise money for a school trip or some damned thing. So now we get all these crappy magazines. MIT Technology Review is one of them, and I've read a few articles from it. It seems to be competing with The Economist in the Snotty, Elitist, Globalist Douche-Bag Periodical category. As you say, it is complete crap.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Cloudbuster


    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.
     
    For MIT the institute it's far worse, it's also their alumni magazine. For decades it devoted its copy to telling MIT graduates everything they learned at MIT was not just wrong for the world, but downright evil. And MIT wondered why its donations were way below those of comparable high end universities.

    There was a cleaning out of the house not many years ago, but as usual, Richard Conquest's 2nd Law of Politics, "Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing" has taken its toll, and based on the articles that get attention from the outside world, is as bad as it ever was.

    Of course, it probably makes a difference who MIT chose to be its President, an outsider in more than one way.

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @Anon87
    @Cloudbuster

    A friend of mine would always get Tech Review and just pass it along to me. You could start to sense a change a few years ago with climate change sprinkled in every issue, now it is full on trash with few articles on actual technology. About as useful now as the rags Popular Mechanics or NatGeo. I love print, but most things printed these days are full on liberal garbage.

  2. First things first:

    • Agree: Anonymousse
    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @wren

    She teaches the class "Media Manipulation and Disinformation Campaigns" so she's an expert at doing this.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Change that Matters
    @wren

    I"m guessing it's double its ideal weight, based on absence of neck. Excess fat in the face/neck alone would probably amount to five extra points on the BMI. No wonder it's angry. It can't even wipe itself, let alone stay awake all day. Its cats are at home placing bets on the date of Feast Day.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Cloudbuster
    @wren

    Crazy cat lady confirmed: https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    , @Dan Hayes
    @wren

    PADDY' PIG (I just couldn't resist, please forgive).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @AnotherDad
    @wren

    Separate nations! Faster please ...

    ... before someone posts another picture of one of these things.

    , @anon
    @wren

    Physiognomy? It's real. A real thing. Some books can be judged by the cover in an instant.

    , @Dumbo
    @wren

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with "white supremacists". I mean, talk about walking cliches... Sad.

    https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous

    , @black sea
    @wren

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr McKenna, @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Sergeant Prepper
    @wren

    She looks capable of dragging Captain Ahab to the bottom of the sea.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @wren

    Good night,God bless,drive safely! 😁

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @wren

    Good grief. Is it Heartiste (pbuh) who says "physiognomy is real"?


    I am currently the Director of the Technology and Social Change Research Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media Politics and Public Policy, where I research media manipulation, disinformation, and adversarial media movements.

    I was previously the Research Lead for Data & Society’s Media Manipulation Initiative, which mapped how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions.

    I completed my PhD in Sociology and Science Studies at the University of California San Diego, and was a postdoctoral fellow at the UCLA Institute for Society and Genetics, where I studied white supremacists’ use of DNA ancestry tests, social movements, and technology.
     
    "how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions"

    You mean like Tinder and OnlyFans? Or like this, laying the supporting framework for mail vote fraud?

    https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1303097486437879808

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @clyde
    @wren

    This land whale is into food porn. How many MIT janitors did she eat today?

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @wren

    MAN THE HARPOONS!!!!

    https://youtu.be/QT9BeGNnCqw

    , @Amerimutt Golems
    @wren

    She isn't alone.

    Morally bankrupt SJW types in academia are repackaging wokery as 'research'.



    The researchers, from Cambridge’s Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence (CFI), say that AI, like other science fiction tropes, has always reflected the racial thinking in our society.

    ...
    From Terminator to Blade Runner, Metropolis to Ex Machina, all are played by White actors or are visibly White onscreen. Androids of metal or plastic are given white features, such as in I, Robot. Even disembodied AI – from HAL-9000 to Samantha in Her – have White voices. Only very recently have a few TV shows, such as Westworld, used AI characters with a mix of skin
    tones.

    ...
    Portrayals of AI as White situate machines in a power hierarchy above currently marginalized groups, and relegate people of colour to positions below that of machines. As machines become increasingly central to automated decision-making in areas such as employment and criminal justice, this could be highly consequential.

    ...
    The perceived Whiteness of AI will make it more difficult for people of colour to advance in the field. If the developer demographic does not diversify, AI stands to exacerbate racial inequality.

     

    https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/whiteness-of-ai-erases-people-of-colour-from-our-imagined-futures-researchers-argue
    , @Abe
    @wren

    I think I’ve just been Hutt-splained to-

    “MOSTLY PEACEFAH PROTESTS WOOKIE NIPPLE PINCHY”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AoMzyQulHJ0

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @wren

    Thanks for ruining my lunch!

    , @Thomm
    @wren

    She is EXACTLY what I refer to when I say that the female counterparts to the men who are White Nationalists have their own ideology, which is why we don't see them with their own men, in WN.

    This is a defective subrace (20%) where the wastematter produced by the rest of us (the functional 80% of whites) goes for easy removal, as is a unique feature of the white race. The men become WNs, and the women become people like Joan Donovan.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @wren

    That reminds me... why are Southern Tier's pumpkin-flavored ales so expensive? I mean, $15 for a four-pack? Nothing in upstate New York is that valuable!


    https://stbcbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Warlock-12oz-Bottle.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @wren

    I was first going to ask, "You mean people actually get paid for writing this shit?" But judging from her picture, it's obvious that they do, or at least enough to eat very, very well.

    2 Questions:
    1st question) Who weighs more, her or Heidi Beyrich?)
    2nd question) She used to be a dude, right?

    Replies: @meh

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @wren

    There are people whose published opinions are so insane, so destructive to society, that they make you hate them. You wish them ill. But then you see what they look like and your anger lessens. After all, what further misery could you wish upon this loathsome being that could compete with what she's inflicted on herself? She's an object lesson on the perils of of gluttony, sloth, envy, and wrath.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @wren

    Is that some kind of come hither look?

    , @Just another serf
    @wren

    She appears very durable. Wouldn’t even require an air bag in a collision.

    And that’s presumably one of her better photos she chose.

  3. Anonymous[971] • Disclaimer says:

    Whereas, as we all know, the Peaceful Protesters were peaceful.

    Correct.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-connected-protests-story-complicated/story?id=72724790&cid=social_twitter_abcn

    Deaths at protests from Kenosha to Portland, but motive tells different story

    … But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest has found the alleged motive for most of the carnage in those incidents are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.

    If you define BLM as a peaceful civil disobedience movement*, then BLM protests aren’t actually violent, and any violence at them isn’t actually BLM.

    Make sense?

    * https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Anonymous


    But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest...are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.
     
    Lol. None of the peaceful acts at our peaceful protests are violent. Got it?

    By that standard most “right-wing” violence isn’t committed by right-wingers, either, but by loons with absolutely no political involvement with the Right. I dare say no one on the Right knew who the hell Dylan Roof was before he shot up a black church, nor had any movement conservative ever heard of Tim McVeigh, or the murderers of Matthew Shepard or James Byrd.

    Replies: @gruff

    , @res
    @Anonymous

    Perhaps we can call that the "No True BLM Riot" fallacy?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

  4. The author has a point about organization. Boomercons are still stuck on Facebook, while anybody on the right who is the least bit edgy was forced into the Telegram/Signal outer darkness long ago. Meanwhile, Antifa gets to fundraise openly, to the extent the Sorosbux don’t cover everything. It’s not good that such a large proportion of white mainstream conservatives are still plugged in to Zuckerberg’s matrix.

    Also, it’s starting to drift out into the mainstream understanding how aggressive Antifa is with optics and policing coverage of themselves. The ones in Portland have an approved list of friendly journalists. Anyone else who tries to record them risks threats, harassment, violence and destruction of their equipment.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  5. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She teaches the class “Media Manipulation and Disinformation Campaigns” so she’s an expert at doing this.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Cloudbuster

    We are well into the "soft people" part of the cycle.

  6. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    I”m guessing it’s double its ideal weight, based on absence of neck. Excess fat in the face/neck alone would probably amount to five extra points on the BMI. No wonder it’s angry. It can’t even wipe itself, let alone stay awake all day. Its cats are at home placing bets on the date of Feast Day.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Change that Matters

    Its cats are at home placing bets on the date of Feast Day.


    Harsh!,(but funny)

  7. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Crazy cat lady confirmed: https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

  8. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    PADDY’ PIG (I just couldn’t resist, please forgive).

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Dan Hayes

    Paddy And The Whale

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM-LTLqQLOk

  9. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Separate nations! Faster please …

    … before someone posts another picture of one of these things.

  10. Why doesn’t this stupid, cowardly bitch just openly declare that she wants censorship of free speech and be done with it?

  11. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Physiognomy? It’s real. A real thing. Some books can be judged by the cover in an instant.

  12. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with “white supremacists”. I mean, talk about walking cliches… Sad.

    https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Dumbo

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with “white supremacists”. I mean, talk about walking cliches… Sad.

    It really is true that most activist feminists could be de-activated just by getting pounded out on a semi-regular basis.

    But who is going to volunteer for that job? (shudder).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Dumbo


    She is extremely fat.
     
    And ugly. Don't forget ugly.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Dumbo

    where is Thomm? Does she qualify as a White Trashionalist?

  13. George Floyd’s murderer? They found the person who sold him the drugs?

  14. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • LOL: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @black sea


    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.
     
    She didn't just raid the Riot Kitchen. She knocked over the whole Riot Pantry.

    It's notable how ugly so many hard-lefties are.
    , @Mr McKenna
    @black sea

    Gonna go way out on a limb here and speculate that the captain of her high-school football team didn't give her the attention she desired--nay, deserved. Well, this'll teach him.

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @black sea

    "You can get anything you want/at Alice's Restaurant (excepting Alice...)"

  15. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She looks capable of dragging Captain Ahab to the bottom of the sea.

  16. Help! People are getting news from sources who have not been vetted and pre-approved by the establishment.

    How long before freedom of the press only applies to those with a state granted license to practice journalism?

  17. just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake

    I don’t know that this sparse constellation represents an “endless line” as much as isolated anomalies – Selma to Mike Brown? If anyone were willing to pay attention to and document the ever increasing incidence of black on White violence committed purely for sport, I think we might see a clear ascending line.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Charles St. Charles

    It is clearly a two-dimensional plane of atrocities:

    Dimension 1: Selma to Mike Brown
    Dimension 2: Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake

    I suppose if you are at the point given by (Mike Brown, Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake) it's like your own personal visit to a jail where a Gentle Giant will beat you to death because he's 19 and just feels like having some Harambe fun.

    But where is Emmett Till on that plane?

  18. @Cloudbuster
    That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available. Nevertheless, the media narrative on the right is clear: antifa must have done it. …

    That didn't age well at all.

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It's written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT's reputation in STEM and the explicit "Technology Review" to signal to its readers that it's a fact-based technical publication. It's a total fraud.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @That Would Be Telling, @Anon87

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.

    A year or so ago, the wife signed up for one of those so-many-magazine-subscriptions-for-a-nominal-fee deals that the son of friend of hers was selling to raise money for a school trip or some damned thing. So now we get all these crappy magazines. MIT Technology Review is one of them, and I’ve read a few articles from it. It seems to be competing with The Economist in the Snotty, Elitist, Globalist Douche-Bag Periodical category. As you say, it is complete crap.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Mr. Anon

    I subscribed to Technology Review once, more than a decade ago, and it turned out there was no difference with other general circulation mass media--superficial articles lacking substance, and heavy on editorial, not analysis. It was a complete waste of time. The occasional article with some meat was always something quite obscure, and usually speculative rather than applied.

    It seems it's only gotten worse, if that were possible.

  19. @black sea
    @wren

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr McKenna, @Gary in Gramercy

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    She didn’t just raid the Riot Kitchen. She knocked over the whole Riot Pantry.

    It’s notable how ugly so many hard-lefties are.

    • Agree: Gordo
  20. @black sea
    @wren

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr McKenna, @Gary in Gramercy

    Gonna go way out on a limb here and speculate that the captain of her high-school football team didn’t give her the attention she desired–nay, deserved. Well, this’ll teach him.

  21. It’s a sick, sad world when defending your selves and your home is a ‘bizarre stand.’

  22. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Good night,God bless,drive safely! 😁

  23. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Good grief. Is it Heartiste (pbuh) who says “physiognomy is real”?

    I am currently the Director of the Technology and Social Change Research Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media Politics and Public Policy, where I research media manipulation, disinformation, and adversarial media movements.

    I was previously the Research Lead for Data & Society’s Media Manipulation Initiative, which mapped how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions.

    I completed my PhD in Sociology and Science Studies at the University of California San Diego, and was a postdoctoral fellow at the UCLA Institute for Society and Genetics, where I studied white supremacists’ use of DNA ancestry tests, social movements, and technology.

    how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions

    You mean like Tinder and OnlyFans? Or like this, laying the supporting framework for mail vote fraud?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “Science” Studies is huge now. It allows people who lack the 2-3 standard deviations above average intelligence required to be a real scientist to LARP as one. They can can work at places like MIT, andin tur places like MIT get to increase their percentage of women and people who aren’t Asian or White.
    When you see things like a report about “980 scientists call for mandatory adoption of non-gender toilets“ many or most of the scientists are actually non-scientists like this.

  24. … the recorded murder of George Floyd—just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake—motivated millions of people worldwide to protest against police brutality

    In terms of writing a persuasive essay on this topic there’s nothing to be gained, and a fair amount to lose, by calling it the “murder of George Floyd” vs “the death of…” or maybe “the killing of”. People who think it’s murder won’t be offended by “the killing of”. On the other hand, anyone who thinks he OD’ed or even was killed by mistake will bristle at “the murder of”. So why insist on it?

    Also, even if it IS murder (by some negligence argument) it doesn’t appear to have been “vicious” in any way. There’s simply no indication of either malice or aggression on the part of the officers in the tapes.

    Also, Steve had the first sentence of this paragraph, but elided the rest:

    And yet, as the events of the last week have shown, wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed. Several cities and towns have become treacherous terrain, where militias, MAGA groups, and conspiracists are carrying out their civil war fantasies by attacking Black Lives Matter protesters as police look on. The optics are reminiscent of the Freedom Rides in the 1960s, when police turned away as local white vigilantes attacked civil rights advocates.

    “wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed”? Is this for real? I’m not aware of any such… and i would think that the MSM would have JUMPED on any that actually existed. I’m sure she’d say the Kenosha rifle dude would fall under that category (though imo it’s pretty clear it was self-defense) but that case is most notable for how unique it’s been. And he’s one guy. What “wave after wave” is she talking about ?

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @vhrm

    The people who believed in magical Russians also believe in invisible Nazis.

    , @anon
    @vhrm

    “wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed”? Is this for real?

    It is real to the Woketards. That's the kind of ghost story they've been telling themselves for a long time. They are watching a scarrrry movie inside their heads and are convinced it is real. Totally convinced.

  25. the recorded murder of George Floyd

    I’m sure this Shorenstein Center has enough money for a good lawyer which hopefully they will need in a libel case soon.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Gordo

    LOL, the name Shorenstein Center is more than a bit on the hook-nose.

  26. The author is described as “Joan Donovan is research director at Harvard Kennedy’s Shorenstein Center.”

    Who is Harvard Kennedy, and why did his parents give him the name “Harvard”? Also, it would be interesting to learn how he acquired ownership of the
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorenstein_Center_on_Media%2C_Politics_and_Public_Policy

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    From Amy Chua's "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother:"

    "I compared her to Amy Jiang, Amy Wang, Amy Liu, and Harvard Wong, all first-generation Asian kids none of whom ever talked back to their parents."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  27. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    The author is described as "Joan Donovan is research director at Harvard Kennedy’s Shorenstein Center."

    Who is Harvard Kennedy, and why did his parents give him the name "Harvard"? Also, it would be interesting to learn how he acquired ownership of the
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorenstein_Center_on_Media%2C_Politics_and_Public_Policy

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    From Amy Chua’s “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother:”

    “I compared her to Amy Jiang, Amy Wang, Amy Liu, and Harvard Wong, all first-generation Asian kids none of whom ever talked back to their parents.”

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve: "Amy Chua's "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother"

    I find the title telling, and so culturally tone-deaf that I'm starting to smell colors and see sounds.

    The original "Battle Hymn of the Republic" was a call to arms for personal sacrifice in the name of Justice: "let us die to make men free." It is selfless, civic-minded, and (in its own mind at least) morally righteous -- or at least, morally serious.

    Amy Chua parachutes into a fully-realized, already-built, highly prosperous country built by the industry of others utterly unlike herself; and her one thought is to construct a "Battle Hymn" of How To Grab As Much Of American Wealth From These Dumb Goyim (Sorry, I Meant Gweilos) As You Can.

    "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother"

    And... remind me, who is she "battling," exactly?

    Our new country is gonna be great!

    Replies: @Thatgirl

  28. Is she really this stupid or does she think her readers are? While one cannot rule out the former, most techies spend all their time trying to master their tech and are hopelessly ignorant about much else, so she may just be trying to manipulate them.

  29. How come everything we read about Charles Manson is so negative? There must be like ten published pieces about his murders, to every one about his feeding squirrels.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  30. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    This land whale is into food porn. How many MIT janitors did she eat today?

  31. @black sea
    @wren

    She joined Antifa for the food trucks.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr McKenna, @Gary in Gramercy

    “You can get anything you want/at Alice’s Restaurant (excepting Alice…)”

  32. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    MAN THE HARPOONS!!!!

  33. @Cloudbuster
    That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available. Nevertheless, the media narrative on the right is clear: antifa must have done it. …

    That didn't age well at all.

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It's written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT's reputation in STEM and the explicit "Technology Review" to signal to its readers that it's a fact-based technical publication. It's a total fraud.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @That Would Be Telling, @Anon87

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.

    For MIT the institute it’s far worse, it’s also their alumni magazine. For decades it devoted its copy to telling MIT graduates everything they learned at MIT was not just wrong for the world, but downright evil. And MIT wondered why its donations were way below those of comparable high end universities.

    There was a cleaning out of the house not many years ago, but as usual, Richard Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics, “Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing” has taken its toll, and based on the articles that get attention from the outside world, is as bad as it ever was.

    Of course, it probably makes a difference who MIT chose to be its President, an outsider in more than one way.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @That Would Be Telling

    The administrative diversity type stuff coming out during the current dude's tenure is depressing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Rafael_Reif

    The previous president (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hockfield ) seems based by comparison, though she was quite disappointing when she piled on Larry Summers during that incident. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers#Differences_between_the_sexes )

    Given her position she had a particularly large megaphone then, imho. If she'd declared something like "yeah, this is a valid scientific question that should be investigated" it literally could have changed the course of wokeness history.

    It's fun to dream...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJSDrHpPUk

    (note: i hadn't actually seen that clip in years, i just remembered the "it's fun to dream..." phrase.
    As so often w/ Boondocks /McGrudder he's half insightful and half crazy.
    I mean "it's fun to dream" just in terms of alternative history pov.

    As to that actual episode, the "fun" part is Dr. King b-slapping the current "black" culture and moving to Canada, which would then lead the AA community taking responsibility and then having riots and "demands" and finally a black president in 2020... i only wish it had gone that way.
    The episode aired in 2006.

    What he didn't anticipate was much less racist and much less effective.
    What we got instead:
    a) a Black President in 2008 which was elected by white people and w/o any need for violence
    b) but that which did ZERO to make the "black community" take responsibility
    c) followed by continued and increasing pandering to the "black community's" worse traits
    d) followed by meaningless and disjointed demands for "change" that are really a shakedown for money... and aren't really even a black revolution but a white leftists against the center and right.

    )

    Replies: @WowJustWow

  34. I was doing an Early Life check for Joan McDonald and the results are inconclusive but I found out two major things. First she is an extremely obese sweat hog. I mean obese. You can check out her photo at her Harvard Kennedy school bio page:

    https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty/joan-donovan

    And second, her specialty is media manipulation:

    “Dr. Donovan’s research and teaching interests are focused on media manipulation, effects of disinformation campaigns, and adversarial media movements. She teaches a graduate-level course on Media Manipulation and Disinformation Campaigns (DPI-622) with a focus on how social movements, political parties, governments, corporations, and other networked groups engage in active efforts to shape media narratives and disrupt social institutions.”

  35. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media.

    The funny thing about this is, it’s not like the mainstream media really goes out of its way to document the “peaceful protests” either. They’ll occasionally show people marching down a street for a few seconds, but it’s never longer than that. But why don’t they? They could. There are hours and hours of footage every night of black people shouting through bullhorns, spreading their message. But at least from what I’ve seen, they never really show that.

    It’s pretty obvious why, of course. It’s because, if they did show that, it would arguably harm their cause more than showing the rioting footage. Every single one of those speeches that I’ve seen has either been dishonest, incoherent, dumbly radical (such as the notion of abolishing the United States because some black guy died of a drug overdose), or just plain stupid in general.

    Which is pretty funny, if you look at the big picture. One of the common narratives from the early days of the riots was “Well, it’s sad that these black people have to riot, but it’s the only way anyone would ever listen to them!”. Leaving aside the fact that, for at least the past decade, it’s been impossible to open a newspaper without hearing some black guy whine about racism, what do we actually hear once we listen to them? What was this message that they had to get out?

    “Just abolish the police, and then these kinds of things won’t happen anymore!”

    So I imagine that, if they ever played more of the “peaceful protests” in the media, it would immediately become apparent to large parts of the country that there was a reason nobody was listening to these people before.

    And while that obviously wouldn’t come as a surprise to any iSteve readers, I think they want to maintain the narrative that there’s another Martin Luther King somewhere in the ranks, just struggling to be heard.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @anon

    I am always tickled pink by the protestors/rioters who don't want bystanders to film them. "We are protesting so people hear our voice... Hey, put away that camera: no one has the right to see us!"

    , @a Newsreader
    @anon

    Good take. It's the same takeaway as of that story of the Wisconsin newspaper reporter who quit because the paper accurately quoted one of the the demonstrators (link).

  36. @Steve Sailer
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    From Amy Chua's "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother:"

    "I compared her to Amy Jiang, Amy Wang, Amy Liu, and Harvard Wong, all first-generation Asian kids none of whom ever talked back to their parents."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Steve: “Amy Chua’s “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother”

    I find the title telling, and so culturally tone-deaf that I’m starting to smell colors and see sounds.

    The original “Battle Hymn of the Republic” was a call to arms for personal sacrifice in the name of Justice: “let us die to make men free.” It is selfless, civic-minded, and (in its own mind at least) morally righteous — or at least, morally serious.

    Amy Chua parachutes into a fully-realized, already-built, highly prosperous country built by the industry of others utterly unlike herself; and her one thought is to construct a “Battle Hymn” of How To Grab As Much Of American Wealth From These Dumb Goyim (Sorry, I Meant Gweilos) As You Can.

    “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother”

    And… remind me, who is she “battling,” exactly?

    Our new country is gonna be great!

    • Replies: @Thatgirl
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    How To Grab As Much Of American Wealth From These Dumb Goyim (Sorry, I Meant Gweilos) As You Can.
     
    Amy Chua’s husband is a member of the tribe, thus either goyim or gweilo is accurate.

    Interestingly I just read he has been suspended from Yale Law School, where he teaches, for two years.
  37. @Cloudbuster
    @wren

    She teaches the class "Media Manipulation and Disinformation Campaigns" so she's an expert at doing this.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    We are well into the “soft people” part of the cycle.

  38. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She isn’t alone.

    Morally bankrupt SJW types in academia are repackaging wokery as ‘research’.

    The researchers, from Cambridge’s Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence (CFI), say that AI, like other science fiction tropes, has always reflected the racial thinking in our society.


    From Terminator to Blade Runner, Metropolis to Ex Machina, all are played by White actors or are visibly White onscreen. Androids of metal or plastic are given white features, such as in I, Robot. Even disembodied AI – from HAL-9000 to Samantha in Her – have White voices. Only very recently have a few TV shows, such as Westworld, used AI characters with a mix of skin
    tones.


    Portrayals of AI as White situate machines in a power hierarchy above currently marginalized groups, and relegate people of colour to positions below that of machines. As machines become increasingly central to automated decision-making in areas such as employment and criminal justice, this could be highly consequential.


    The perceived Whiteness of AI will make it more difficult for people of colour to advance in the field. If the developer demographic does not diversify, AI stands to exacerbate racial inequality.

    https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/whiteness-of-ai-erases-people-of-colour-from-our-imagined-futures-researchers-argue

  39. “From Selma to Mike Brown…”? I don’t know of this Selma of whom you speak. Was she that fat broad that got backed over by a car, and probably had a heart attack?

    Nice job on this one, Steve, especially regarding this writer’s calling a couple defending their expensive property “bizarre”. How bizarre, that right of self defense is! This guy is either projecting, as you say, or he just has no concept that there is more than one side to every story. Just on the TV, I don’t know or care how many channels are on now, but I do know that there are plenty of hard-left networks to match that “right-wing machine”.

    This Donovan is either extremely stupid or evil. I look forward to reading your Takimag riot article later on today.

    .

    PS: Regarding the videos, I’d say that Kyle Rittenhouse self-defense clip ought to be shown for years and years at CC classes, militia training and any kind of gun ownership class in the future.

  40. @YetAnotherAnon
    @wren

    Good grief. Is it Heartiste (pbuh) who says "physiognomy is real"?


    I am currently the Director of the Technology and Social Change Research Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media Politics and Public Policy, where I research media manipulation, disinformation, and adversarial media movements.

    I was previously the Research Lead for Data & Society’s Media Manipulation Initiative, which mapped how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions.

    I completed my PhD in Sociology and Science Studies at the University of California San Diego, and was a postdoctoral fellow at the UCLA Institute for Society and Genetics, where I studied white supremacists’ use of DNA ancestry tests, social movements, and technology.
     
    "how interest groups, governments, political operatives, corporations, and others use the internet and media to disrupt social institutions"

    You mean like Tinder and OnlyFans? Or like this, laying the supporting framework for mail vote fraud?

    https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1303097486437879808

    Replies: @Alfa158

    “Science” Studies is huge now. It allows people who lack the 2-3 standard deviations above average intelligence required to be a real scientist to LARP as one. They can can work at places like MIT, andin tur places like MIT get to increase their percentage of women and people who aren’t Asian or White.
    When you see things like a report about “980 scientists call for mandatory adoption of non-gender toilets“ many or most of the scientists are actually non-scientists like this.

  41. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    I think I’ve just been Hutt-splained to-

    “MOSTLY PEACEFAH PROTESTS WOOKIE NIPPLE PINCHY”

  42. MIT Technology Review

    Call me cynical but I immediately wonder whether that is related in any way to Jeffrey Epstein’s antics at MIT.

    (You know Jeffrey Epstein – the chap who didn’t kill himself.)

  43. Mainstream media bias toward covering violence in protests is well studied, best encapsulated by the saying “If it bleeds, it leads.” Most protests are largely peaceful,

    So what’s her fucking point? The vast, overwhelming majority of police interactions with blacks are also peaceful. The vast majority of white interactions with blacks do not lead to threats to call the cops.

    Violence, looting, and even murder is far more representative of protestors’ behavior than the George Floyd arrest is of police behavior (and of course that’s ignoring the fact that George Floyd acted like a crazy ass during the 75% of the arrest that the public has not seen, and that he died of a Fentanyl overdose).

  44. @Dumbo
    @wren

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with "white supremacists". I mean, talk about walking cliches... Sad.

    https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with “white supremacists”. I mean, talk about walking cliches… Sad.

    It really is true that most activist feminists could be de-activated just by getting pounded out on a semi-regular basis.

    But who is going to volunteer for that job? (shudder).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @John Johnson

    You first, John. Bring your phone with you so we can find you if you get lost.

  45. @Change that Matters
    @wren

    I"m guessing it's double its ideal weight, based on absence of neck. Excess fat in the face/neck alone would probably amount to five extra points on the BMI. No wonder it's angry. It can't even wipe itself, let alone stay awake all day. Its cats are at home placing bets on the date of Feast Day.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Its cats are at home placing bets on the date of Feast Day.

    Harsh!,(but funny)

    • Agree: Muggles
  46. @Gordo

    the recorded murder of George Floyd
     
    I'm sure this Shorenstein Center has enough money for a good lawyer which hopefully they will need in a libel case soon.

    Replies: @anon

    LOL, the name Shorenstein Center is more than a bit on the hook-nose.

  47. @Anonymous

    Whereas, as we all know, the Peaceful Protesters were peaceful.
     
    Correct.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-connected-protests-story-complicated/story?id=72724790&cid=social_twitter_abcn

    Deaths at protests from Kenosha to Portland, but motive tells different story

    ... But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest has found the alleged motive for most of the carnage in those incidents are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.
     
    If you define BLM as a peaceful civil disobedience movement*, then BLM protests aren't actually violent, and any violence at them isn't actually BLM.

    Make sense?

    * https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

    Replies: @Wilkey, @res

    But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest…are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.

    Lol. None of the peaceful acts at our peaceful protests are violent. Got it?

    By that standard most “right-wing” violence isn’t committed by right-wingers, either, but by loons with absolutely no political involvement with the Right. I dare say no one on the Right knew who the hell Dylan Roof was before he shot up a black church, nor had any movement conservative ever heard of Tim McVeigh, or the murderers of Matthew Shepard or James Byrd.

    • Replies: @gruff
    @Wilkey

    FYI Matthew Shepard was killed by gays who had done drug deals with him.

  48. Outrage contagion is why the McCloskeys, the husband-and-wife duo who pointed guns at Black Lives Matter marchers in St. Louis, were motivated to take their bizarre stand.

    So much of what the Left wants Big Government to do – much of which it’s already doing – is done with threats, essentially at the point of a gun.

    “You will give us a vast chunk of your income, so that we can give it to these other people – or else.”

    “You will pay us money to decide how we will educate your kids – or else.”

    “You will hire X number or minorities or we will confiscate millions or shut down your business.”

    …So why is the Left so upset when someone uses a gun to defend their own property? Their government does it all the time.

  49. @Charles St. Charles

    just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake
     
    I don’t know that this sparse constellation represents an “endless line” as much as isolated anomalies - Selma to Mike Brown? If anyone were willing to pay attention to and document the ever increasing incidence of black on White violence committed purely for sport, I think we might see a clear ascending line.

    Replies: @El Dato

    It is clearly a two-dimensional plane of atrocities:

    Dimension 1: Selma to Mike Brown
    Dimension 2: Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake

    I suppose if you are at the point given by (Mike Brown, Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake) it’s like your own personal visit to a jail where a Gentle Giant will beat you to death because he’s 19 and just feels like having some Harambe fun.

    But where is Emmett Till on that plane?

  50. According to analysis I conducted using MediaCloud, a research tool from MIT and Harvard, right-wing media outlets wrote five to six times more articles about Seattle’s “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” than did center or left media.

    So, nobody on the Left Side cared all that much about CHAZ/CHOP and the wreckage it left behind, including people shot by “CHOP Security”. Were they too busy telling people to wear a mask and stay at home lest granny die (unless they got absolution for attention a BLM protest)? Do Lefties even know of this wonderful place?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @El Dato

    RIP Republic of Chaz
    Summer 2020 - Summer 2020

    White leftists proved that society can live for about 2 weeks without the police. That is the amount of time it takes for Blacks to take over the place and begin shooting.

  51. @Wilkey
    @Anonymous


    But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest...are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.
     
    Lol. None of the peaceful acts at our peaceful protests are violent. Got it?

    By that standard most “right-wing” violence isn’t committed by right-wingers, either, but by loons with absolutely no political involvement with the Right. I dare say no one on the Right knew who the hell Dylan Roof was before he shot up a black church, nor had any movement conservative ever heard of Tim McVeigh, or the murderers of Matthew Shepard or James Byrd.

    Replies: @gruff

    FYI Matthew Shepard was killed by gays who had done drug deals with him.

  52. @Mr. Anon
    @Cloudbuster


    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.
     
    A year or so ago, the wife signed up for one of those so-many-magazine-subscriptions-for-a-nominal-fee deals that the son of friend of hers was selling to raise money for a school trip or some damned thing. So now we get all these crappy magazines. MIT Technology Review is one of them, and I've read a few articles from it. It seems to be competing with The Economist in the Snotty, Elitist, Globalist Douche-Bag Periodical category. As you say, it is complete crap.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I subscribed to Technology Review once, more than a decade ago, and it turned out there was no difference with other general circulation mass media–superficial articles lacking substance, and heavy on editorial, not analysis. It was a complete waste of time. The occasional article with some meat was always something quite obscure, and usually speculative rather than applied.

    It seems it’s only gotten worse, if that were possible.

  53. @Dumbo
    @wren

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with "white supremacists". I mean, talk about walking cliches... Sad.

    https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous

    She is extremely fat.

    And ugly. Don’t forget ugly.

  54. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Thanks for ruining my lunch!

  55. @vhrm

    ... the recorded murder of George Floyd—just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake—motivated millions of people worldwide to protest against police brutality
     
    In terms of writing a persuasive essay on this topic there's nothing to be gained, and a fair amount to lose, by calling it the "murder of George Floyd" vs "the death of..." or maybe "the killing of". People who think it's murder won't be offended by "the killing of". On the other hand, anyone who thinks he OD'ed or even was killed by mistake will bristle at "the murder of". So why insist on it?

    Also, even if it IS murder (by some negligence argument) it doesn't appear to have been "vicious" in any way. There's simply no indication of either malice or aggression on the part of the officers in the tapes.

    Also, Steve had the first sentence of this paragraph, but elided the rest:


    And yet, as the events of the last week have shown, wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed. Several cities and towns have become treacherous terrain, where militias, MAGA groups, and conspiracists are carrying out their civil war fantasies by attacking Black Lives Matter protesters as police look on. The optics are reminiscent of the Freedom Rides in the 1960s, when police turned away as local white vigilantes attacked civil rights advocates.
     
    "wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed"? Is this for real? I'm not aware of any such... and i would think that the MSM would have JUMPED on any that actually existed. I'm sure she'd say the Kenosha rifle dude would fall under that category (though imo it's pretty clear it was self-defense) but that case is most notable for how unique it's been. And he's one guy. What "wave after wave" is she talking about ?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anon

    The people who believed in magical Russians also believe in invisible Nazis.

  56. Much leftist discourse resembles a (soon-to-be-ex) girlfriend saying “You’re being stubborn!”

    • LOL: Muggles
  57. @Anonymous

    Whereas, as we all know, the Peaceful Protesters were peaceful.
     
    Correct.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-connected-protests-story-complicated/story?id=72724790&cid=social_twitter_abcn

    Deaths at protests from Kenosha to Portland, but motive tells different story

    ... But an ABC News examination of a string of fatal and non-fatal confrontations that have occurred amidst the unrest has found the alleged motive for most of the carnage in those incidents are not directly linked to peaceful civil disobedience.
     
    If you define BLM as a peaceful civil disobedience movement*, then BLM protests aren't actually violent, and any violence at them isn't actually BLM.

    Make sense?

    * https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

    Replies: @Wilkey, @res

    Perhaps we can call that the “No True BLM Riot” fallacy?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

    • Agree: Muggles
    • LOL: John Johnson
  58. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm

    ... the recorded murder of George Floyd—just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake—motivated millions of people worldwide to protest against police brutality
     
    In terms of writing a persuasive essay on this topic there's nothing to be gained, and a fair amount to lose, by calling it the "murder of George Floyd" vs "the death of..." or maybe "the killing of". People who think it's murder won't be offended by "the killing of". On the other hand, anyone who thinks he OD'ed or even was killed by mistake will bristle at "the murder of". So why insist on it?

    Also, even if it IS murder (by some negligence argument) it doesn't appear to have been "vicious" in any way. There's simply no indication of either malice or aggression on the part of the officers in the tapes.

    Also, Steve had the first sentence of this paragraph, but elided the rest:


    And yet, as the events of the last week have shown, wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed. Several cities and towns have become treacherous terrain, where militias, MAGA groups, and conspiracists are carrying out their civil war fantasies by attacking Black Lives Matter protesters as police look on. The optics are reminiscent of the Freedom Rides in the 1960s, when police turned away as local white vigilantes attacked civil rights advocates.
     
    "wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed"? Is this for real? I'm not aware of any such... and i would think that the MSM would have JUMPED on any that actually existed. I'm sure she'd say the Kenosha rifle dude would fall under that category (though imo it's pretty clear it was self-defense) but that case is most notable for how unique it's been. And he's one guy. What "wave after wave" is she talking about ?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anon

    “wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed”? Is this for real?

    It is real to the Woketards. That’s the kind of ghost story they’ve been telling themselves for a long time. They are watching a scarrrry movie inside their heads and are convinced it is real. Totally convinced.

  59. @Dan Hayes
    @wren

    PADDY' PIG (I just couldn't resist, please forgive).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Paddy And The Whale

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
  60. “Harvard Kennedy’s Shorenstein Center”

    ah, that august institution of academia which has guided American leaders for over 200 years. the Kennedy Shorenstein Center. how would the United States have endured without it.

  61. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She is EXACTLY what I refer to when I say that the female counterparts to the men who are White Nationalists have their own ideology, which is why we don’t see them with their own men, in WN.

    This is a defective subrace (20%) where the wastematter produced by the rest of us (the functional 80% of whites) goes for easy removal, as is a unique feature of the white race. The men become WNs, and the women become people like Joan Donovan.

  62. @John Johnson
    @Dumbo

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with “white supremacists”. I mean, talk about walking cliches… Sad.

    It really is true that most activist feminists could be de-activated just by getting pounded out on a semi-regular basis.

    But who is going to volunteer for that job? (shudder).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    You first, John. Bring your phone with you so we can find you if you get lost.

  63. @El Dato

    According to analysis I conducted using MediaCloud, a research tool from MIT and Harvard, right-wing media outlets wrote five to six times more articles about Seattle’s “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” than did center or left media.
     
    So, nobody on the Left Side cared all that much about CHAZ/CHOP and the wreckage it left behind, including people shot by "CHOP Security". Were they too busy telling people to wear a mask and stay at home lest granny die (unless they got absolution for attention a BLM protest)? Do Lefties even know of this wonderful place?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    RIP Republic of Chaz
    Summer 2020 – Summer 2020

    White leftists proved that society can live for about 2 weeks without the police. That is the amount of time it takes for Blacks to take over the place and begin shooting.

  64. @That Would Be Telling
    @Cloudbuster


    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It’s written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT’s reputation in STEM and the explicit “Technology Review” to signal to its readers that it’s a fact-based technical publication. It’s a total fraud.
     
    For MIT the institute it's far worse, it's also their alumni magazine. For decades it devoted its copy to telling MIT graduates everything they learned at MIT was not just wrong for the world, but downright evil. And MIT wondered why its donations were way below those of comparable high end universities.

    There was a cleaning out of the house not many years ago, but as usual, Richard Conquest's 2nd Law of Politics, "Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing" has taken its toll, and based on the articles that get attention from the outside world, is as bad as it ever was.

    Of course, it probably makes a difference who MIT chose to be its President, an outsider in more than one way.

    Replies: @vhrm

    The administrative diversity type stuff coming out during the current dude’s tenure is depressing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Rafael_Reif

    The previous president (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hockfield ) seems based by comparison, though she was quite disappointing when she piled on Larry Summers during that incident. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers#Differences_between_the_sexes )

    Given her position she had a particularly large megaphone then, imho. If she’d declared something like “yeah, this is a valid scientific question that should be investigated” it literally could have changed the course of wokeness history.

    It’s fun to dream…

    (note: i hadn’t actually seen that clip in years, i just remembered the “it’s fun to dream…” phrase.
    As so often w/ Boondocks /McGrudder he’s half insightful and half crazy.
    I mean “it’s fun to dream” just in terms of alternative history pov.

    As to that actual episode, the “fun” part is Dr. King b-slapping the current “black” culture and moving to Canada, which would then lead the AA community taking responsibility and then having riots and “demands” and finally a black president in 2020… i only wish it had gone that way.
    The episode aired in 2006.

    What he didn’t anticipate was much less racist and much less effective.
    What we got instead:
    a) a Black President in 2008 which was elected by white people and w/o any need for violence
    b) but that which did ZERO to make the “black community” take responsibility
    c) followed by continued and increasing pandering to the “black community’s” worse traits
    d) followed by meaningless and disjointed demands for “change” that are really a shakedown for money… and aren’t really even a black revolution but a white leftists against the center and right.

    )

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    @vhrm

    Looking back from today’s perspective, The Boondocks was practically an alt-right cartoon a la Murdoch Murdoch, but it was somehow acceptable for woke foke to watch simply because its creator was not white or hispanic or asian or brown, but Black.

    Replies: @meh

  65. the recorded murder of George Floyd—just one in a seemingly endless line of merciless and vicious events perpetrated by police against Black people, from Selma to Mike Brown, from Rodney King to Sandra Bland and Jacob Blake

    She left out the railroading of OJ Simpson and Bill Cosby.

    Now, with social media as a broadcast system, the right-wing media has upped the ante.

    Her problem with “right-wing media” isn’t their behavior, but their existence.

    right-wing adversarial media-makers like Elijah Schaffer and Andy Ngo

    Those damned WASPs. Every. Single. Time.

    And yet, as the events of the last week have shown, wave after wave of white vigilante violence has followed.

    Such as?

    Oh, I see… “Please, officer, could you move a little to the left so I can get a better shot of that Molotov?” That’s “white vigilante violence”. The Molotov itself is protected speech.

    That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available.

    This is pease porridge in the pot, six days old. Plenty has come out since.

  66. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    That reminds me… why are Southern Tier’s pumpkin-flavored ales so expensive? I mean, $15 for a four-pack? Nothing in upstate New York is that valuable!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Except maple syrup, which is way more expensive than crappy microbrews. Also, real estate in some select locations. Upstate New York gets a bad rap but is actually a wonderful place to live. Living anywhere along Lake Champlain, for example, gives you access to the largest freshwater lake in the country (after the Great Lakes) and the Adirondack mountains, which are great for both hiking and winter sports. You're within a day-trip distance of Montreal and a weekend-trip distance of NYC, and you can get there on a train. Plus, the demographics ain't bad, and the politics trends rightish.

    Steve,

    I'm surprised you didn't do more commentary on that article. There are so many distortions, it's mind-boggling. It starts with the title, but the first one that really stood out was this:



    Because right-wing reactionaries do not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left, they instead rely heavily on social media—particularly Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter—to mobilize crowds.
     
    Antifa uses Twitter to organize. Joan Donovan just makes shit up. I wouldn't be surprised if the "research" she did was just made up too.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  67. @Dumbo
    @wren

    She is extremely fat. And she has a picture of a cat in her bio. But no picture of husband or child. And she is obsessed with "white supremacists". I mean, talk about walking cliches... Sad.

    https://joandonovan.org/joandonovan

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Anon, @Chrisnonymous

    where is Thomm? Does she qualify as a White Trashionalist?

  68. @anon

    Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media.
     
    The funny thing about this is, it's not like the mainstream media really goes out of its way to document the "peaceful protests" either. They'll occasionally show people marching down a street for a few seconds, but it's never longer than that. But why don't they? They could. There are hours and hours of footage every night of black people shouting through bullhorns, spreading their message. But at least from what I've seen, they never really show that.

    It's pretty obvious why, of course. It's because, if they did show that, it would arguably harm their cause more than showing the rioting footage. Every single one of those speeches that I've seen has either been dishonest, incoherent, dumbly radical (such as the notion of abolishing the United States because some black guy died of a drug overdose), or just plain stupid in general.

    Which is pretty funny, if you look at the big picture. One of the common narratives from the early days of the riots was "Well, it's sad that these black people have to riot, but it's the only way anyone would ever listen to them!". Leaving aside the fact that, for at least the past decade, it's been impossible to open a newspaper without hearing some black guy whine about racism, what do we actually hear once we listen to them? What was this message that they had to get out?

    "Just abolish the police, and then these kinds of things won't happen anymore!"

    So I imagine that, if they ever played more of the "peaceful protests" in the media, it would immediately become apparent to large parts of the country that there was a reason nobody was listening to these people before.

    And while that obviously wouldn't come as a surprise to any iSteve readers, I think they want to maintain the narrative that there's another Martin Luther King somewhere in the ranks, just struggling to be heard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @a Newsreader

    I am always tickled pink by the protestors/rioters who don’t want bystanders to film them. “We are protesting so people hear our voice… Hey, put away that camera: no one has the right to see us!”

  69. @Reg Cæsar
    @wren

    That reminds me... why are Southern Tier's pumpkin-flavored ales so expensive? I mean, $15 for a four-pack? Nothing in upstate New York is that valuable!


    https://stbcbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Warlock-12oz-Bottle.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Except maple syrup, which is way more expensive than crappy microbrews. Also, real estate in some select locations. Upstate New York gets a bad rap but is actually a wonderful place to live. Living anywhere along Lake Champlain, for example, gives you access to the largest freshwater lake in the country (after the Great Lakes) and the Adirondack mountains, which are great for both hiking and winter sports. You’re within a day-trip distance of Montreal and a weekend-trip distance of NYC, and you can get there on a train. Plus, the demographics ain’t bad, and the politics trends rightish.

    Steve,

    I’m surprised you didn’t do more commentary on that article. There are so many distortions, it’s mind-boggling. It starts with the title, but the first one that really stood out was this:

    Because right-wing reactionaries do not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left, they instead rely heavily on social media—particularly Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter—to mobilize crowds.

    Antifa uses Twitter to organize. Joan Donovan just makes shit up. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “research” she did was just made up too.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Chrisnonymous

    Speaking of Champlain, look what she's coughed up:


    Steamboat Phoenix paddle wheels found 201 years later


    But even the great Champlain can't top this headline from nearby Lake George:

    Distressed Kayaker on Lake George Saved by Priests on Floating Tiki Bar: 'He Was in Trouble'

    By the way, Adirondack is the largest park in the lower 48. And you can live in it.

  70. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    I was first going to ask, “You mean people actually get paid for writing this shit?” But judging from her picture, it’s obvious that they do, or at least enough to eat very, very well.

    2 Questions:
    1st question) Who weighs more, her or Heidi Beyrich?)
    2nd question) She used to be a dude, right?

    • Replies: @meh
    @Kolya Krassotkin


    I was first going to ask, “You mean people actually get paid for writing this shit?” But judging from her picture, it’s obvious that they do, or at least enough to eat very, very well.
     
    Eating a lot is not the same thing as eating well.

    Also you would be surprised how little a lot of these SJW types get paid.

    They're in these jobs for the prestige and social signalling; but since literally any hack could do the job and there is a huge surplus of unemployable SJW college grads willing to take the job, the pay is often quite low.
  71. At the right time and place, I’d pay $15 for four Genny Creams.

  72. @anon

    Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media.
     
    The funny thing about this is, it's not like the mainstream media really goes out of its way to document the "peaceful protests" either. They'll occasionally show people marching down a street for a few seconds, but it's never longer than that. But why don't they? They could. There are hours and hours of footage every night of black people shouting through bullhorns, spreading their message. But at least from what I've seen, they never really show that.

    It's pretty obvious why, of course. It's because, if they did show that, it would arguably harm their cause more than showing the rioting footage. Every single one of those speeches that I've seen has either been dishonest, incoherent, dumbly radical (such as the notion of abolishing the United States because some black guy died of a drug overdose), or just plain stupid in general.

    Which is pretty funny, if you look at the big picture. One of the common narratives from the early days of the riots was "Well, it's sad that these black people have to riot, but it's the only way anyone would ever listen to them!". Leaving aside the fact that, for at least the past decade, it's been impossible to open a newspaper without hearing some black guy whine about racism, what do we actually hear once we listen to them? What was this message that they had to get out?

    "Just abolish the police, and then these kinds of things won't happen anymore!"

    So I imagine that, if they ever played more of the "peaceful protests" in the media, it would immediately become apparent to large parts of the country that there was a reason nobody was listening to these people before.

    And while that obviously wouldn't come as a surprise to any iSteve readers, I think they want to maintain the narrative that there's another Martin Luther King somewhere in the ranks, just struggling to be heard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @a Newsreader

    Good take. It’s the same takeaway as of that story of the Wisconsin newspaper reporter who quit because the paper accurately quoted one of the the demonstrators (link).

  73. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve: "Amy Chua's "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother"

    I find the title telling, and so culturally tone-deaf that I'm starting to smell colors and see sounds.

    The original "Battle Hymn of the Republic" was a call to arms for personal sacrifice in the name of Justice: "let us die to make men free." It is selfless, civic-minded, and (in its own mind at least) morally righteous -- or at least, morally serious.

    Amy Chua parachutes into a fully-realized, already-built, highly prosperous country built by the industry of others utterly unlike herself; and her one thought is to construct a "Battle Hymn" of How To Grab As Much Of American Wealth From These Dumb Goyim (Sorry, I Meant Gweilos) As You Can.

    "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother"

    And... remind me, who is she "battling," exactly?

    Our new country is gonna be great!

    Replies: @Thatgirl

    How To Grab As Much Of American Wealth From These Dumb Goyim (Sorry, I Meant Gweilos) As You Can.

    Amy Chua’s husband is a member of the tribe, thus either goyim or gweilo is accurate.

    Interestingly I just read he has been suspended from Yale Law School, where he teaches, for two years.

  74. @Chrisnonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Except maple syrup, which is way more expensive than crappy microbrews. Also, real estate in some select locations. Upstate New York gets a bad rap but is actually a wonderful place to live. Living anywhere along Lake Champlain, for example, gives you access to the largest freshwater lake in the country (after the Great Lakes) and the Adirondack mountains, which are great for both hiking and winter sports. You're within a day-trip distance of Montreal and a weekend-trip distance of NYC, and you can get there on a train. Plus, the demographics ain't bad, and the politics trends rightish.

    Steve,

    I'm surprised you didn't do more commentary on that article. There are so many distortions, it's mind-boggling. It starts with the title, but the first one that really stood out was this:



    Because right-wing reactionaries do not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left, they instead rely heavily on social media—particularly Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter—to mobilize crowds.
     
    Antifa uses Twitter to organize. Joan Donovan just makes shit up. I wouldn't be surprised if the "research" she did was just made up too.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of Champlain, look what she’s coughed up:

    Steamboat Phoenix paddle wheels found 201 years later

    But even the great Champlain can’t top this headline from nearby Lake George:

    Distressed Kayaker on Lake George Saved by Priests on Floating Tiki Bar: ‘He Was in Trouble’

    By the way, Adirondack is the largest park in the lower 48. And you can live in it.

  75. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    There are people whose published opinions are so insane, so destructive to society, that they make you hate them. You wish them ill. But then you see what they look like and your anger lessens. After all, what further misery could you wish upon this loathsome being that could compete with what she’s inflicted on herself? She’s an object lesson on the perils of of gluttony, sloth, envy, and wrath.

    • Agree: wren
  76. Looks like her Wiki got hacked:

    Joan Donovan is an American social scientist, who frequently publishes fake narratives about conservatives to further push her far left agendas

  77. @vhrm
    @That Would Be Telling

    The administrative diversity type stuff coming out during the current dude's tenure is depressing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Rafael_Reif

    The previous president (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hockfield ) seems based by comparison, though she was quite disappointing when she piled on Larry Summers during that incident. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers#Differences_between_the_sexes )

    Given her position she had a particularly large megaphone then, imho. If she'd declared something like "yeah, this is a valid scientific question that should be investigated" it literally could have changed the course of wokeness history.

    It's fun to dream...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJSDrHpPUk

    (note: i hadn't actually seen that clip in years, i just remembered the "it's fun to dream..." phrase.
    As so often w/ Boondocks /McGrudder he's half insightful and half crazy.
    I mean "it's fun to dream" just in terms of alternative history pov.

    As to that actual episode, the "fun" part is Dr. King b-slapping the current "black" culture and moving to Canada, which would then lead the AA community taking responsibility and then having riots and "demands" and finally a black president in 2020... i only wish it had gone that way.
    The episode aired in 2006.

    What he didn't anticipate was much less racist and much less effective.
    What we got instead:
    a) a Black President in 2008 which was elected by white people and w/o any need for violence
    b) but that which did ZERO to make the "black community" take responsibility
    c) followed by continued and increasing pandering to the "black community's" worse traits
    d) followed by meaningless and disjointed demands for "change" that are really a shakedown for money... and aren't really even a black revolution but a white leftists against the center and right.

    )

    Replies: @WowJustWow

    Looking back from today’s perspective, The Boondocks was practically an alt-right cartoon a la Murdoch Murdoch, but it was somehow acceptable for woke foke to watch simply because its creator was not white or hispanic or asian or brown, but Black.

    • Replies: @meh
    @WowJustWow


    Looking back from today’s perspective, The Boondocks was practically an alt-right cartoon a la Murdoch Murdoch, but it was somehow acceptable for woke foke to watch simply because its creator was not white or hispanic or asian or brown, but Black.
     
    Murdoch Murdoch is actually funny, though. That is to say, intentionally funny. Without being sanctimonious.

    The Boondocks is unintentionally funny, as well as sanctimonious.
  78. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    Is that some kind of come hither look?

  79. The Ruins of Ivy covered institutions try to remain relevant.

    Much like the fish wraps, they are now shouting at clouds like an old codger.

    No one holds respect for these institutions anymore.

    The cycle of discrediting has gone Full Circle.

    What does the Next Age hold? Who will lead out of the detritus?

    Trump is the Last of the US Presidents.

    Biden is a fossil waiting to be dug up by future historians.

    The Crazy Times are now burning down.

    The Next Age will bring Strong Men to crush the madness of crowds.

    Much like Putin followed the Collapse of The Soviet Union.

    A New Ruthless Leader shall soon rise in the West.

  80. @wren
    First things first:

    https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/JDonovan_public_bio_photo.jpg

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Change that Matters, @Cloudbuster, @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad, @anon, @Dumbo, @black sea, @Sergeant Prepper, @Father O'Hara, @YetAnotherAnon, @clyde, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Amerimutt Golems, @Abe, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Thomm, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Harry Baldwin, @Father O'Hara, @Just another serf

    She appears very durable. Wouldn’t even require an air bag in a collision.

    And that’s presumably one of her better photos she chose.

  81. @Cloudbuster
    That same night, a member of the far-right group Patriot Prayer was murdered, but no details on the shooter are available. Nevertheless, the media narrative on the right is clear: antifa must have done it. …

    That didn't age well at all.

    MIT Technology Review particularly irks me. It's written and produced by non-STEM people, but it trades on MIT's reputation in STEM and the explicit "Technology Review" to signal to its readers that it's a fact-based technical publication. It's a total fraud.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @That Would Be Telling, @Anon87

    A friend of mine would always get Tech Review and just pass it along to me. You could start to sense a change a few years ago with climate change sprinkled in every issue, now it is full on trash with few articles on actual technology. About as useful now as the rags Popular Mechanics or NatGeo. I love print, but most things printed these days are full on liberal garbage.

  82. Because right-wing reactionaries do not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left,

    Might they not have the same kind of experience in organizing street protests as the left,

    1) because, if they do street protests, they get physically assaulted by antifa and BLM while the police stand down and do nothing,

    2) and if they do attempt to defend themselves, the police suddenly spring into action (or a DA later orders arrests) and they are arrested and have the book thrown at them for assault, attempted murder, and so on?

    See: Rise Above Movement (RAM), United the Right (UTR), Proud Boys ambushed by antifa in NYC, and countless other examples. Literally, get assaulted by antifa and BLM swinging weapons, antifa and BLM go free, and the people defending themselves go to jail for years.

    I don’t know, I think that might put a damper on organizing actual street protests. The only right-wingers doing street protests right now are Trump supporters who are still naive enough to think that they will get equal protection under the law from the police and the courts.

    Also not having billionaires to bankroll right-wing street protesters has an effect too; unlike antifa most right-wingers have to work for a living, don’t have personal trust funds or NGO funding.

  83. @WowJustWow
    @vhrm

    Looking back from today’s perspective, The Boondocks was practically an alt-right cartoon a la Murdoch Murdoch, but it was somehow acceptable for woke foke to watch simply because its creator was not white or hispanic or asian or brown, but Black.

    Replies: @meh

    Looking back from today’s perspective, The Boondocks was practically an alt-right cartoon a la Murdoch Murdoch, but it was somehow acceptable for woke foke to watch simply because its creator was not white or hispanic or asian or brown, but Black.

    Murdoch Murdoch is actually funny, though. That is to say, intentionally funny. Without being sanctimonious.

    The Boondocks is unintentionally funny, as well as sanctimonious.

  84. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @wren

    I was first going to ask, "You mean people actually get paid for writing this shit?" But judging from her picture, it's obvious that they do, or at least enough to eat very, very well.

    2 Questions:
    1st question) Who weighs more, her or Heidi Beyrich?)
    2nd question) She used to be a dude, right?

    Replies: @meh

    I was first going to ask, “You mean people actually get paid for writing this shit?” But judging from her picture, it’s obvious that they do, or at least enough to eat very, very well.

    Eating a lot is not the same thing as eating well.

    Also you would be surprised how little a lot of these SJW types get paid.

    They’re in these jobs for the prestige and social signalling; but since literally any hack could do the job and there is a huge surplus of unemployable SJW college grads willing to take the job, the pay is often quite low.

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