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From the Washington Post:

Bill Maher says liberals are killing comedy

By Hunter Schwarz June 15 at 7:43 AM

Add Bill Maher to the growing list of comedians who think political correctness is bad for comedy — and are making an issue of it.

Maher spoke with comedian Jeff Ross on “Real Time” over the weekend about Jerry Seinfeld, who said last week he doesn’t play at colleges because they’re too PC. Maher suggested the reason was political.

[Jerry Seinfeld hates political correctness. So we ruined 7 Seinfeld episodes by making them PC.]

“I used to fight with this audience all the time, because we used to get the audience strictly from liberal sources, then we got the audience like from everywhere and I’ve had a much better time the last couple of months,” he said.

 
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  1. You can’t kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn’t have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @Massimo Heitor

    I just always tell them the truth: Norm Macdonald is ten times funnier than Stewart or Maher. He is also what they pretend to be - the opposite of PC. Stewart has admitted to copying Weekend Update when Norm hosted it, too.

    , @Economic Sophisms
    @Massimo Heitor

    Steve's writing leaves me in stitches routinely. I also think Gavin McInnes is pretty funny. Mark Steyn brought me to tears with his 'unless China wants to be the first gay super power since Sparta, they'd better fix their gender ratio'

    , @SFG
    @Massimo Heitor

    The thing about political humor is, it's a lot funnier when you agree with the guy.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L

    , @silviosilver
    @Massimo Heitor


    Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud.
     
    Me too. He's got a real knack for it. "Ethnic Extremist Leaves US To Fight In Middle Eastern Tribal War"(about David Brookes' son) and "'How Immigration Can Hurt A Country, In Theory Not Just In Reality" are a couple of my favorites.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Massimo Heitor

    "People say that the right doesn’t have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong."

    What channel is it on?

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

  2. I’m not too optimistic about this “backlash” to PC. It’s older guys like Bill Maher and Seinfeld, while younger comedians like Schumer and Louie CK are pretty much full SJW.

    Guys like Maher and Seinfeld have a voice because they were grandfathered it, becoming famous at a time when it was possible to be an up and coming comedian who wasn’t fully PC. Jay Leno too, Sort of like how Pat Buchanan became famous a long time ago and still gets some MSM attention, while if he was a young writer saying these things he would have never gotten the chance to be influential.

    The next generation of comedians will be fully domesticated, and see these complaints about political correctness as nothing but the final grasp of some old white males who were insufficiently sensitive.

    • Replies: @james wilson
    @Hepp

    Maher is and always was as PC as the rest of them.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Anonitron
    @Hepp

    I like these comedy stories if only for the inevitable and ridiculous smears against old OnA comics like CK and Schumer as being more fully domesticated and PC than Seinfeld (been doing the same act for 20 years) and Leno (lol).

    , @Sam Haysom
    @Hepp

    I'm not so sure. Basically I think there has been a bifurcation at work. One stream- the PC stream ruthlessly enforces PC. There is another stream exemplified by Antony Jeselnik and Daniel Tosh that is joyfully anti-PC if basically still liberal in outlook. Seinfeld's problem is that by not being a anti-PC comic he gets lumped in with the PC comics and judged by their standards.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Hepp

    You say white males.... Does anyone know what's happening on the black comedy circuit? I just can't see blacks caving to this sort of PC policing.

    They won't get any TV coverage doing certain material...But nowadays there are other ways to reach an audience.

    Would certain people get banned from clubs?...It seems like it may end up like the music scene, where black artists say the most outrageously Un-PC things, they just don't do it on their mass-market single...and the entire media pretend not to notice.

    It's a strange thing. How do the SJWs select who gets the twitter hate-athon treatment. It's almost random.

    At some point there has got to be an open conflict, and some sort of implicit (or explicit) rules will be established for what the mainstream will/won't accept.

  3. “… the audience like from everywhere”

    Who has Maher amused in the last decade other than a TV audience lapping up his witless bigotry?

  4. The funniest comedians never have/had to worry about offending anyone. E.g., Brian Regan, Jim Gaffigan, Steven Wright, et al. Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that’s fine, but it’s not comedy.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Anonymous

    I love Brian Regan. The guy is a sort of genius, who should be as famous as Jerry Seinfeld. The late-great Mitch Hedburg is another example of a brilliant apolitical comic. I'd take one Brian Regan or Mitch Hedberg over a thousand Bill Hickses.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Big Bill
    @Anonymous


    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny.
     
    You should probably stay away from Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, the Keystone Kops, the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, Your Show of Shows, Laugh-in, Mel Brooks, the Smothers Brothers, Flip Wilson, Redd Foxx and (heaven forfend!) Lenny Bruce.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @silviosilver
    @Anonymous


    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that’s fine, but it’s not comedy.
     
    Eat your heart out.
  5. As if Bill Maher knew anything about comedy.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @peterike

    I never though of Maher being funny. Sarcastic, bombastic and sadistic yes. Funny ... no.

  6. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:

    It’s nice to hear Maher say this, even though he’s a nasty purveyor of anti-white/conservative/Christian comedy, which is of course right in line with p.c. Still, he has an independent streak I respect.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @el topo

    Maher, the big environmentalist, is silent on third-world population growth and third-world immigration into the West. But then he also flies first class. In other words, he's a fucking hypocrite.

  7. I caught that episode by accident. The WaPo author’s headline is click bait and the headline is wrong.

    Ross seemed pissed that younger audiences don’t like his act. Ross thinks he’s edgy for the younger generation, but really his act just isn’t very good outside of his roasts. He can insult Justin Bieber well, but he’s got nothing to say.

    Maher is still the same shill for political correctness that we all know. He’ll stick his neck out for himself and his buddies, but that’s it.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Rotten

    He can insult Justin Bieber well. Who can't?

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Rotten

    Jeffrey Ross's biggest talent as a roaster is that he's outlived Greg Giraldo and Patrice O'Neal.

    Replies: @njguy73

  8. bill maher would know. he’s been killing comedy for a while now.

  9. Of course the worst part of that episode was the light speed-quick sellout of the nominal ‘conservative’ on the police/race/bikini girl/pool party issue.

  10. On the other hand, PC is the funniest shit around.

    It turned every media outlet into the Onion.

  11. Dennis Miller has forgotten more comedy is his last 24 hours than Bill Maher will ever know.

  12. Without a Republican President to bash, the liberals eat their own.

    Carlos Mencia referred to GWB as “Great for comedy”

    Punching down, you know…

  13. Of course PC audiences suck. They don’t want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.

    And what’s worse with today’s liberals, is their sensitivity to any and all perceived slights, trigger words, anything even remotely racist, nativist, Western, etc. You really can’t do comedy routines under those restrictions. Because the next thing you know a bunch of them will get together to get you blackballed.

    That’s the liberal way, if someone offends you, you do your best to destroy them.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
    @rod1963


    Of course PC audiences suck. They don’t want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.
     
    Most of us like non-humor political coverage+commentary in addition to humor. The PC left likes humor and non-humor, which is normal. Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.

    There is some truth to humor in that people don't laugh if something isn't authentically funny, but humor isn't some gold standard of wisdom or insight either.

    Replies: @International Jew, @TB

  14. Breaking News: Chickens Come Home To Roost

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Justpassingby

    Yes. Reminds me when I was little and Frank Sinatra was complaining about the state of traditional values (or lack thereof) in America. People like Sinatra then and Maher today "started the fire" now their mad they're getting burned.

  15. Meanwhile, University of California professors have been stepping into the role of shock jocks, blurting out the wildest-imaginable microaggressions:
    “America is the land of opportunity!” “Everyone can succeed in this society, if they work hard enough!”
    The Saturnalia ends this week. Professors have been issued an extensive list of things they must never say:
    http://www.crass.us/2015/06/funniest-microaggressions-of-the-week-america-is-the-land-of-opportunity-affirmative-action-is-racist/

  16. The destruction of labor scarcity combined with our permenant electronic record is what is destroying comedy.

  17. Give me old Norm Macdonald stand up, Colin Quinn’s Twitter feed, and Sailer’s observations and you can have the rest.

    • Replies: @Tim
    @Danindc

    Give me old Norm Macdonald stand up, Colin Quinn’s Twitter feed, and Sailer’s observations and you can have the rest.

    Mom called, she want's her laptop back.

    , @e
    @Danindc

    robin williams was able to make fun of "some white dude" and some black dude" and get laughs from all age groups, i think.

    Replies: @Danindc

  18. Maher seems to have pissed off a lot of the good and the mighty over his insistence that Islam itself has a problem rather than just terrorists.

    His show and overall beliefs are still garbage though.

  19. @Rotten
    I caught that episode by accident. The WaPo author's headline is click bait and the headline is wrong.

    Ross seemed pissed that younger audiences don't like his act. Ross thinks he's edgy for the younger generation, but really his act just isn't very good outside of his roasts. He can insult Justin Bieber well, but he's got nothing to say.

    Maher is still the same shill for political correctness that we all know. He'll stick his neck out for himself and his buddies, but that's it.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Dave Pinsen

    He can insult Justin Bieber well. Who can’t?

  20. Bill Maher is a much more interesting person than intelligent people would think, not for the reasons you would think. I’m not going to say he’s smarter than you’d think because he’s not. He’s interesting because he’s less intelligent than you’d expect a Jewish man who has a weekly one-of-a-kind gig on HBO to be. I mean come on, once a week, on HBO, for a tenth of the show, and those are the best jokes he’s got? Recursively, once or twice a week, making fun of Roman Catholicism for victimizing Roman Catholic children is not the mark of a select wit. But bizarrely going out your way to say you’re not Jewish though people often think you are even though your mother was Jewish, and undylyng lambasting human rights abusers for toe-tiffing stuff like cramping free speech or whatever while often halting guests to affirm the moral rectitude of the babe named ISRAEL, such is certainly the mark of a selectively interesting man. I wonder what specific dynamics crucially contribute to him being so interesting, seriously.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Pat Casey

    He's pro-Israel, not because it's politically correct (increasingly, it's not), but because he's a liberal of a certain age, he's anti-Islam, and possibly because he's half-Jewish.

    When it comes to current events comedy, he's much better than the smug Jon Stewart / John Oliver types that flatter the views of the mainstream left and ridicule the opposition. Maher isn't afraid of having smart conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Charles Murray on his show.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @Unladen Swallow

  21. The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

    “Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!”

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.

    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

    The “Other” box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let’s do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.

    Well, it’s better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”

    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.

    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.

    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    @SPMoore8

    "Why is this wrong? " - because you're supposed to feel guilt over differences, recognizing differences, and so forth. So quit recognizing them and feel guilty about them already.

    , @Pat Casey
    @SPMoore8

    hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahaa

    , @Jean Cocteausten
    @SPMoore8


    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.
     
    This one is hilarious. When I was in grad school, a professor saw me in a lab and asked me if I was a student in the department...because I was white and not a foreigner like every single other student in the department.
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @SPMoore8

    "To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”

    Why is this wrong?"

    I kind of see where this is going. Now, I'm reasonably sure that I'm what you would call an introvert. I've been called out as being such, much in the manner described above. In the back of my mind, however, I can't help but wonder if I would be similarly called out if I were 100% white instead of half-Asian. Because of the stereotype of Asians being quiet and introverted obviously.

    , @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8


    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Talking to someone is a multichannel communication. In addition to the primary vocal channel there is a second channel of various out-of-band, many of which visual, cues. You can see if someone understands you, agrees with you etc without asking most of the time. That is why you have a face-to-face talk, when you want to see eye-to-eye with somebody. Many blind do not learn this language, and they can't receive your cues even when they'd learned somewhat.

    So, a blind person didn't affirm your statement by nodding, or saying 'yeah', or something and you're not sure he understood you. What do you do? You... speak... slowly.

    So, a blind person has not turned towards you when you started to speak to him in a group. Is he 'lending you an ear', as some blind people do by turning the side of their faces to you, or has he not heard you? What do you do? YOU RAISE YOUR VOICE.

    Bitching "[I am/ He is] blind, not deaf", is not helpful.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  22. “Bill Maher says liberals are killing comedy”

    The pot calling the kettle black.

    • Replies: @Perspective
    @Auntie Analogue

    My thoughts exactly. I've never found him to be very funny outside of the occasional joke. I wonder what he considers to be politically correct, from what I can tell he is an enforcer of political correctness.

  23. Marty [AKA "Coot Veal or Cot Deal"] says:

    Steve, I’d really like to know if many U.C. grads have stopped donating in protest of runaway leftism. Do you have any feel for this? I can’t count myself, since I ended my donations to the library in’86, when they first started charging admission to baseball games.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Marty

    I used to donate then the chancellor changed and they made a big announcement of blue and gold scholarships to "people of color". I got a few calls and asked them if this was true. He said "yes" with a somewhat proud tone and I could tell he was black. I told him to get the money from Carnesale.

  24. @SPMoore8
    The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

     

    "Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!"

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.
     
    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

     

    The "Other" box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

     

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let's do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Well, it's better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”
     
    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.
     
    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

     

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.
     
    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Pat Casey, @Jean Cocteausten, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Anonymous

    “Why is this wrong? ” – because you’re supposed to feel guilt over differences, recognizing differences, and so forth. So quit recognizing them and feel guilty about them already.

  25. @peterike
    As if Bill Maher knew anything about comedy.

    Replies: @rod1963

    I never though of Maher being funny. Sarcastic, bombastic and sadistic yes. Funny … no.

  26. Saw one of the latest “Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee,” the one with Steve Harvey. Harvey addressed that issue, said he was forced to apologize for a joke … because the sponsors on his talk show got nervous. Harvey also said two interesting things.

    The first was that the offended were really just a very small group of people shouting very loud. They only get amplified by sponsor nervousness about pretty much everything. He disdained Twitter and noted correctly that most Twitter feeds were fake. [Shakira and Lady Gaga had about half to three quarters of their millions of Twitter followers pulled — they were fake followers created by “bots” and presumably paid for by their management.]

    The second was that if Harvey was a pure stand up; or a guy starting out; he would not have apologized. As he said, the second a tragedy strikes, they have the jokes. They might not use them right away, but they sure have them.

    I think the lack of any network outlet or what have you for aspiring comics, as Fallon/Myers/Kimmel/Stewart don’t feature comics any more, is bad for PC enforcement.

    IF a comic is young, aspiring, has no TV show or sponsors, and depends on filling rooms by making people laugh, then said comic has no incentive to toe the PC line and be unfunny. His only career advancement comes from making people laugh. And being shocking. The most shocking thing is to break the taboo PC lines. This was what Michael Richards was trying to do in swatting down his hecklers. It has to be done … FUNNY. But it is essential to shock (a key element of funny) and stand out for a young comic.

    As Harvey noted, there is no training, no schools, no barriers to entry to comedy. You either have it or don’t, and if you have it you are bound to offend someone. Harvey ended with a story about an audience at the Apollo Theater, completely brutal in booing both a little girl singing and a comedian who was utterly lame.

    [Be sure to catch the Alec Baldwin piece. Baldwin ribs Seinfeld for not trying acting, and being lazy, and does some funny bits. Baldwin’s politics are horrible but he was funny.]

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    @Whiskey

    No barriers to entry is so true. by xgfs older bro I know there are even classes you can take for free that end you up on stage with an audience in DC area. Curious about thoughts on Woody...none I know of matched delivery so exactly to joke, I think he was the best ever---look up the moose joke if you don't know. But then he became the artist, he became an effin CYNOSURE to ny indie film aspirants. What have we got out of it? The stereotype of an artist as a neurotic (wimpy) genius. This was easy cause seemingly undergirded once bios of T.S. Eliot started coming out. Hence most high art nowadays is done by self-involved depressives. Charlie Kauffman. Except there is a big, yes very big difference between depressives and manic-depressives, and if you haven't read K. Jamison's Touched by Fire, nothing should come first. There are no more inspiring bohemias, cause depressives have prozac and don't do hanging out good, and manic depressives are hugely stigmatized. You will notice that some ethnicity basically doesn't know manic-depression, and alllll of this somehow winds you back up at: mormons.

  27. It’s unfortunate that this post has a link to WaPo about Seinfeld hating PC so we ruined seven episodes. I thought “we” included Seinfeld and the reader was to learn how he and his gang wrote the originals much funnier but in the end succumbed to the shackles of PC .

    Instead we get these insipid rewrites of what some WaPo guy thinks was derring-do back in its day. Example: It was courageous to imply Christians (Elaine’s boyfriend) believe it’s ok to conspire to steal as long as they’re not the ones doing the actual deed.

    Why not a rewrite attributing other predilections to Kramer’s fellow AIDS runners, instead of the pablum we saw about mandated ribbon-wearing? (Instead, Seinfeld’s gang went way out on a limb to legitimize fund raising for victims who were hardly blameless.)

  28. Reminds me of that classic joke.

    Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A: THAT’S NOT FUNNY!

  29. @Hepp
    I'm not too optimistic about this "backlash" to PC. It's older guys like Bill Maher and Seinfeld, while younger comedians like Schumer and Louie CK are pretty much full SJW.

    Guys like Maher and Seinfeld have a voice because they were grandfathered it, becoming famous at a time when it was possible to be an up and coming comedian who wasn't fully PC. Jay Leno too, Sort of like how Pat Buchanan became famous a long time ago and still gets some MSM attention, while if he was a young writer saying these things he would have never gotten the chance to be influential.

    The next generation of comedians will be fully domesticated, and see these complaints about political correctness as nothing but the final grasp of some old white males who were insufficiently sensitive.

    Replies: @james wilson, @Anonitron, @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    Maher is and always was as PC as the rest of them.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @james wilson

    "Maher is and always was as PC as the rest of them."

    Bill Maher is not as PC as the rest of them. Bill Maher has been very vocal about saying that Islam is by far the most violent religion in the world by a landslide. Do you know of any other Liberals who are willing to admit that? Liberals always says that Christianity is just as violent if not more violent than Islam and than they use examples of Christians bombing abortion clinics yet the death count for abortion clinic bombings is nowhere near as high as the death count committed by Islamic terrorism. For some reason a lot of Liberals like to paint the Oklahoma City bombing as an example of Christian terrorism even though there is absolutely zero evidence that Timothy McVeigh blew up that building because he believed God or Jesus Christ told him to do it.

    At least Bill Maher as an Atheist is not a hypocrite. He has bashed all religions while the vast majority of Left Wing Atheists only bash Christianity because they are too politically correct to bash Islam and other Non Western religions. Most of the Atheist community is really just anti-Christianity more so than they are anti-religion in general.

    You also never see Liberal Atheists bash crazy superstitious Negro religions like voodoo for example.

    This is why I have an extreme hatred for most Atheists, because most of them are politically correct social justice warriors.

  30. Are we going to talk about a lot of Jewish comics being the comedy equivalent of Jewish market protection beneficiaries in other fields?
    If university audiences are OC, aren’t there other audiences? If comics that would be part of a salon or canon in another time are stuck, and feel angry that they were born too late, aren’t there orher comics? Until TPP ends the internet, we are not stuck in an iteration of the pop cultural centralization that was normal in the mid-twentieth century, which all these guys are looking to as a norm.

  31. Lots of people say that removing a white man’s image from US currency, and replacing it with that of Harriet Tubman, is a bad idea. Personally, I think replacing Abe Lincoln with Harriet Tubman on the $5 bill is a wonderful idea. I’m all for it. And if you’re wondering if I’m being sarcastic, the answer is no.

    I would, however, oppose replacing anyone but Lincoln. I am absolutely opposed to replacing Andrew Jackson’s image with Tubman’s. But replacing Lincoln’s image with Tubman’s, I’m all for that.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Svigor


    I am absolutely opposed to replacing Andrew Jackson’s image with Tubman’s.
     
    As I've said before, I wouldn't mind seeing Jackson replaced with a figure from the arts or the sciences.As it currently stands, Benjamin Franklin is the only figure on our currency with notable achievements outside the political realm.


    So, if someone wants to replace Jackson with Emily Dickinson, or Edith Wharton, or Willa Cather, I'm all for it.Not Tubman, though.That would just be replacing one political figure with another.
    , @Chess Fan
    @Svigor

    I would replace Jackson, specifically, and no one else. My reasoning is that Jackson was a good man, unlike anyone else on our currency, and thus deserves not to have to be associated with such a vile, degenerate country as modern day America.

  32. If you think commedians have a problem consider the plight of anyone who makes serious assertions about, e.g., across-race differences in average intelligence, impulse control, crime rates, etc.; the insanity of the soi disant transgendered; the probability that homosexuality may be the sequelae of some infection; a credible immigration control policy for this country; the realtively minor mpact of humans on climate change; the role that real sex differences make in determining an individual’s choice of a STEM field…. The list is endless of subjects where a pervasive and stultifying miasma of SJW attacks has reduced acceptable public discourse in this country to an insane pablum of nonsense.

  33. @Rotten
    I caught that episode by accident. The WaPo author's headline is click bait and the headline is wrong.

    Ross seemed pissed that younger audiences don't like his act. Ross thinks he's edgy for the younger generation, but really his act just isn't very good outside of his roasts. He can insult Justin Bieber well, but he's got nothing to say.

    Maher is still the same shill for political correctness that we all know. He'll stick his neck out for himself and his buddies, but that's it.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Dave Pinsen

    Jeffrey Ross’s biggest talent as a roaster is that he’s outlived Greg Giraldo and Patrice O’Neal.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Dave Pinsen

    Kinda like how Karl Rove's biggest accomplishment was outliving Lee Atwater.

  34. @Hepp
    I'm not too optimistic about this "backlash" to PC. It's older guys like Bill Maher and Seinfeld, while younger comedians like Schumer and Louie CK are pretty much full SJW.

    Guys like Maher and Seinfeld have a voice because they were grandfathered it, becoming famous at a time when it was possible to be an up and coming comedian who wasn't fully PC. Jay Leno too, Sort of like how Pat Buchanan became famous a long time ago and still gets some MSM attention, while if he was a young writer saying these things he would have never gotten the chance to be influential.

    The next generation of comedians will be fully domesticated, and see these complaints about political correctness as nothing but the final grasp of some old white males who were insufficiently sensitive.

    Replies: @james wilson, @Anonitron, @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    I like these comedy stories if only for the inevitable and ridiculous smears against old OnA comics like CK and Schumer as being more fully domesticated and PC than Seinfeld (been doing the same act for 20 years) and Leno (lol).

  35. @SPMoore8
    The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

     

    "Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!"

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.
     
    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

     

    The "Other" box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

     

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let's do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Well, it's better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”
     
    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.
     
    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

     

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.
     
    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Pat Casey, @Jean Cocteausten, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Anonymous

    hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahaa

  36. Mahr is a pundit. He hasn’t been a comedian in years. All the major “comedians” are pundits or whore madams for their guests. A generation has grown up with Jon Stewart, Colbert, etc, actively and aggressively engaged in punditry under the guise of being comedians.

    Even George Carlin wasn’t doing comedy in his last decade. It was always a glorified TED talk. He might as well have been a professor at a state college.

    Jeff Ross’ comedy is for, and by, a select few: mean, bitter, out of work comedians. He just writes down what he hears the comics muttering while waiting to go on at the Comedy Store Belly Room, and uses it for his next “comedy” roast. I guess it’s funny for people who have never been personally confronted during an introductory EST meeting.

    Why shouldn’t it spill out into comedy clubs, full of mostly young people trained by these semi-comedic terrified middle-aged self-hating wastoids?

    Bill Mahr, you can’t take repeated, massive dumps in your pants, and then complain that the proverbial room stinks. If you want the stink to dissipate, you really need to… leave the room.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @V Vega

    Maher is also a standup comedian. He announces his upcoming tour dates at the end of his HBO show.

    , @DWright
    @V Vega

    Spot on about Carlin, whatever you can say about the last part of his career, it wasn't comedy.

    Many lesser so called comics are just angry ranters with no trace of humor. Joe Rogan comes to mind.

  37. @Anonymous
    The funniest comedians never have/had to worry about offending anyone. E.g., Brian Regan, Jim Gaffigan, Steven Wright, et al. Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that's fine, but it's not comedy.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Big Bill, @silviosilver

    I love Brian Regan. The guy is a sort of genius, who should be as famous as Jerry Seinfeld. The late-great Mitch Hedburg is another example of a brilliant apolitical comic. I’d take one Brian Regan or Mitch Hedberg over a thousand Bill Hickses.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Malcolm X-Lax


    I love Brian Regan. The guy is a sort of genius, who should be as famous as Jerry Seinfeld. The late-great Mitch Hedburg is another example of a brilliant apolitical comic. I’d take one Brian Regan or Mitch Hedberg over a thousand Bill Hickses
     
    Funny you mentioned the late Mitch Hedberg. He was original third pick when commenting and the reason I used had/have. I then thought of Steven Wright who has the same kind of quirky humor and plugged his name in.
  38. iSteveFan says:

    OT, but now diversity is hitting Fargo, ND. There have been a series of news stories about two immigrant street gangs going at one another in Fargo.

    Thank goodness the Fargo PD is on the case.

    You know when you get different new American groups from different ethnic backgrounds from different areas, sometimes they come here with those cultural disputes between the groups, and likely that’s what we are seeing here,” says Lt. Michael Mitchell with the Fargo Police Department.

    I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads “String of violence running through the area” above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    OT, but now diversity is hitting Fargo, ND. There have been a series of news stories about two immigrant street gangs going at one another in Fargo.

    Thank goodness the Fargo PD is on the case.
     

    Officer 1: Jeez. Looks like we got a home invasion, now.

    Officer 2: Aww, jeez. Ya know, I think maybe we got another clan war goin' on here around.

    Officer 1: Ku Klux Klan? We don't have a Klan here! Unless they come from Wisconsin...

    Officer 2: No, I mean a Clan war like the Hatfields and McCoys, Norm. Ya know. Families fightin'.

    Officer 1: So... you're saying' they come from the Carolina's?

    Officer 2: No! They're the black people! The ones they brought in from the immigration, ya know! Down in the affordable housin'!

    Officer 1: Oh YA!!!! They had a big fight last week at the playground!!

    Officer 2: Ya!

    Officer 1: Oh ya! Even the ladies were fightin'! Forgot all about it! So... where ya think the invaders are now? Back home?

    Officer 2: I don't think so.

    Officer 1: Ya think... maybe we should do a stakeout? At the pancake house?

    Officer 2: Nah. Don't want to scare the customers. Anyhoo, our suspects would know that's the first place we'd look. I don't think they're that dumb. We'll just have an officer drive-by once in a while there, for safety's sake.

    Officer 1: Ah, ya. That's smart, ya.

    Officer 2: And we'll do extra patrols at the affordable housing, so the people feel safe, ya know.

    Officer 1: Ah, ya! That's a good idea, too!

    Officer 2: Ya.

    , @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads “String of violence running through the area” above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC."

    So Fargo has a major Negro crime problem even though Negroes make up only 2 percent of Fargo's population. Are these Section 8 Negroes imported from Midwestern cities like Chicago and Milwaukee?

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

  39. @Anonymous
    The funniest comedians never have/had to worry about offending anyone. E.g., Brian Regan, Jim Gaffigan, Steven Wright, et al. Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that's fine, but it's not comedy.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Big Bill, @silviosilver

    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny.

    You should probably stay away from Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, the Keystone Kops, the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, Your Show of Shows, Laugh-in, Mel Brooks, the Smothers Brothers, Flip Wilson, Redd Foxx and (heaven forfend!) Lenny Bruce.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Big Bill


    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny.

    You should probably stay away from Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, the Keystone Kops, the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, Your Show of Shows, Laugh-in, Mel Brooks, the Smothers Brothers, Flip Wilson, Redd Foxx and (heaven forfend!) Lenny Bruce.
     
    Yeah, no I don't find any of the aforementioned funny. But I do retract my statement. I think the most hilarious guy out around, while not a comedian per se, is Michael Savage. Some of his comments, which are targeted at groups and individuals, have me in tears. He is so quick and has the ability to phrase things in the funniest way. I don't think I'm alone here because he is number one in the ratings.
  40. @rod1963
    Of course PC audiences suck. They don't want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.

    And what's worse with today's liberals, is their sensitivity to any and all perceived slights, trigger words, anything even remotely racist, nativist, Western, etc. You really can't do comedy routines under those restrictions. Because the next thing you know a bunch of them will get together to get you blackballed.

    That's the liberal way, if someone offends you, you do your best to destroy them.

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    Of course PC audiences suck. They don’t want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.

    Most of us like non-humor political coverage+commentary in addition to humor. The PC left likes humor and non-humor, which is normal. Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.

    There is some truth to humor in that people don’t laugh if something isn’t authentically funny, but humor isn’t some gold standard of wisdom or insight either.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Massimo Heitor


    Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.
     
    Mark Steyn is humorous.
    , @TB
    @Massimo Heitor

    John Derbyshire's RadioDerb pod cast is hilarious. That man is a polymath genious.

  41. @Whiskey
    Saw one of the latest "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee," the one with Steve Harvey. Harvey addressed that issue, said he was forced to apologize for a joke ... because the sponsors on his talk show got nervous. Harvey also said two interesting things.

    The first was that the offended were really just a very small group of people shouting very loud. They only get amplified by sponsor nervousness about pretty much everything. He disdained Twitter and noted correctly that most Twitter feeds were fake. [Shakira and Lady Gaga had about half to three quarters of their millions of Twitter followers pulled -- they were fake followers created by "bots" and presumably paid for by their management.]

    The second was that if Harvey was a pure stand up; or a guy starting out; he would not have apologized. As he said, the second a tragedy strikes, they have the jokes. They might not use them right away, but they sure have them.

    I think the lack of any network outlet or what have you for aspiring comics, as Fallon/Myers/Kimmel/Stewart don't feature comics any more, is bad for PC enforcement.

    IF a comic is young, aspiring, has no TV show or sponsors, and depends on filling rooms by making people laugh, then said comic has no incentive to toe the PC line and be unfunny. His only career advancement comes from making people laugh. And being shocking. The most shocking thing is to break the taboo PC lines. This was what Michael Richards was trying to do in swatting down his hecklers. It has to be done ... FUNNY. But it is essential to shock (a key element of funny) and stand out for a young comic.

    As Harvey noted, there is no training, no schools, no barriers to entry to comedy. You either have it or don't, and if you have it you are bound to offend someone. Harvey ended with a story about an audience at the Apollo Theater, completely brutal in booing both a little girl singing and a comedian who was utterly lame.

    [Be sure to catch the Alec Baldwin piece. Baldwin ribs Seinfeld for not trying acting, and being lazy, and does some funny bits. Baldwin's politics are horrible but he was funny.]

    Replies: @Pat Casey

    No barriers to entry is so true. by xgfs older bro I know there are even classes you can take for free that end you up on stage with an audience in DC area. Curious about thoughts on Woody…none I know of matched delivery so exactly to joke, I think he was the best ever—look up the moose joke if you don’t know. But then he became the artist, he became an effin CYNOSURE to ny indie film aspirants. What have we got out of it? The stereotype of an artist as a neurotic (wimpy) genius. This was easy cause seemingly undergirded once bios of T.S. Eliot started coming out. Hence most high art nowadays is done by self-involved depressives. Charlie Kauffman. Except there is a big, yes very big difference between depressives and manic-depressives, and if you haven’t read K. Jamison’s Touched by Fire, nothing should come first. There are no more inspiring bohemias, cause depressives have prozac and don’t do hanging out good, and manic depressives are hugely stigmatized. You will notice that some ethnicity basically doesn’t know manic-depression, and alllll of this somehow winds you back up at: mormons.

  42. Neoconned [AKA "paleolibertarian"] says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    You can't kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn't have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Economic Sophisms, @SFG, @silviosilver, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I just always tell them the truth: Norm Macdonald is ten times funnier than Stewart or Maher. He is also what they pretend to be – the opposite of PC. Stewart has admitted to copying Weekend Update when Norm hosted it, too.

  43. @Dave Pinsen
    @Rotten

    Jeffrey Ross's biggest talent as a roaster is that he's outlived Greg Giraldo and Patrice O'Neal.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Kinda like how Karl Rove’s biggest accomplishment was outliving Lee Atwater.

  44. @el topo
    It's nice to hear Maher say this, even though he's a nasty purveyor of anti-white/conservative/Christian comedy, which is of course right in line with p.c. Still, he has an independent streak I respect.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    Maher, the big environmentalist, is silent on third-world population growth and third-world immigration into the West. But then he also flies first class. In other words, he’s a fucking hypocrite.

  45. @Justpassingby
    Breaking News: Chickens Come Home To Roost

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Yes. Reminds me when I was little and Frank Sinatra was complaining about the state of traditional values (or lack thereof) in America. People like Sinatra then and Maher today “started the fire” now their mad they’re getting burned.

  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iSteveFan
    OT, but now diversity is hitting Fargo, ND. There have been a series of news stories about two immigrant street gangs going at one another in Fargo.

    Thank goodness the Fargo PD is on the case.

    You know when you get different new American groups from different ethnic backgrounds from different areas, sometimes they come here with those cultural disputes between the groups, and likely that's what we are seeing here," says Lt. Michael Mitchell with the Fargo Police Department.
     
    I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads "String of violence running through the area" above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson

    OT, but now diversity is hitting Fargo, ND. There have been a series of news stories about two immigrant street gangs going at one another in Fargo.

    Thank goodness the Fargo PD is on the case.

    Officer 1: Jeez. Looks like we got a home invasion, now.

    Officer 2: Aww, jeez. Ya know, I think maybe we got another clan war goin’ on here around.

    Officer 1: Ku Klux Klan? We don’t have a Klan here! Unless they come from Wisconsin…

    Officer 2: No, I mean a Clan war like the Hatfields and McCoys, Norm. Ya know. Families fightin’.

    Officer 1: So… you’re saying’ they come from the Carolina’s?

    Officer 2: No! They’re the black people! The ones they brought in from the immigration, ya know! Down in the affordable housin’!

    Officer 1: Oh YA!!!! They had a big fight last week at the playground!!

    Officer 2: Ya!

    Officer 1: Oh ya! Even the ladies were fightin’! Forgot all about it! So… where ya think the invaders are now? Back home?

    Officer 2: I don’t think so.

    Officer 1: Ya think… maybe we should do a stakeout? At the pancake house?

    Officer 2: Nah. Don’t want to scare the customers. Anyhoo, our suspects would know that’s the first place we’d look. I don’t think they’re that dumb. We’ll just have an officer drive-by once in a while there, for safety’s sake.

    Officer 1: Ah, ya. That’s smart, ya.

    Officer 2: And we’ll do extra patrols at the affordable housing, so the people feel safe, ya know.

    Officer 1: Ah, ya! That’s a good idea, too!

    Officer 2: Ya.

  47. @Danindc
    Give me old Norm Macdonald stand up, Colin Quinn's Twitter feed, and Sailer's observations and you can have the rest.

    Replies: @Tim, @e

    Give me old Norm Macdonald stand up, Colin Quinn’s Twitter feed, and Sailer’s observations and you can have the rest.

    Mom called, she want’s her laptop back.

  48. OT:
    There seems to be a lot of mainstream news stories online about how the case of trans-racialism in Spokane is in no way comparable to the Bruce Jenner case of trans-genderism. I skim read a few and they seem to be unable to explain why.

    I was thinking too that former Toronto mayor Rob Ford might be another case of trans-racialism. One of the videos showed him jabbering in Jamaican patois in an all night sandwich shop. World Star Hip Hip embraced him as one of their own.

    • Replies: @rob
    @Cagey Beast

    In defense of Caitlyn!, she never faked any hate crimes. Come to think of it, I really like the exclamation point there.

  49. @Danindc
    Give me old Norm Macdonald stand up, Colin Quinn's Twitter feed, and Sailer's observations and you can have the rest.

    Replies: @Tim, @e

    robin williams was able to make fun of “some white dude” and some black dude” and get laughs from all age groups, i think.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @e

    Yep I bet. Never a huge fan but the man had talent.

  50. @Massimo Heitor
    You can't kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn't have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Economic Sophisms, @SFG, @silviosilver, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Steve’s writing leaves me in stitches routinely. I also think Gavin McInnes is pretty funny. Mark Steyn brought me to tears with his ‘unless China wants to be the first gay super power since Sparta, they’d better fix their gender ratio’

  51. Whatever you want to say about this or that comic, PC is a scythe mowing down any sprout of humor.

    Sex itself, and all the machination man–and woman–goes through to achieve it, is the prime source of humor.

    Homosexuals–who don’t know what their equipment is for … are obviously funny (along with whatever other emotions they evoke–disgust, etc.)

    Now we’re so far gone we have a former Olympic champion who thinks he’s a girl … pretty much comedy gold and … the comics are not supposed to skewer him. And worse, the TV guys–are *not*–skewering him.

    And even worse in some sense, no one seems to even mind, or even note, this Stalinist self-policing.

    This isn’t quite North Korea yet, but yeah the liberals have pretty much killed off comedy.

  52. @Pat Casey
    Bill Maher is a much more interesting person than intelligent people would think, not for the reasons you would think. I'm not going to say he's smarter than you'd think because he's not. He's interesting because he's less intelligent than you'd expect a Jewish man who has a weekly one-of-a-kind gig on HBO to be. I mean come on, once a week, on HBO, for a tenth of the show, and those are the best jokes he's got? Recursively, once or twice a week, making fun of Roman Catholicism for victimizing Roman Catholic children is not the mark of a select wit. But bizarrely going out your way to say you're not Jewish though people often think you are even though your mother was Jewish, and undylyng lambasting human rights abusers for toe-tiffing stuff like cramping free speech or whatever while often halting guests to affirm the moral rectitude of the babe named ISRAEL, such is certainly the mark of a selectively interesting man. I wonder what specific dynamics crucially contribute to him being so interesting, seriously.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    He’s pro-Israel, not because it’s politically correct (increasingly, it’s not), but because he’s a liberal of a certain age, he’s anti-Islam, and possibly because he’s half-Jewish.

    When it comes to current events comedy, he’s much better than the smug Jon Stewart / John Oliver types that flatter the views of the mainstream left and ridicule the opposition. Maher isn’t afraid of having smart conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Charles Murray on his show.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    @Dave Pinsen

    He's never been better on current events comedy than John Stewart, not hardly. Particularly considering Maher has an entire week to think up half as many jokes as Stewart relays four days per week. Maher is six years older than Stuart, born in 56, which by something like Steve's logic re the Six Day War, that should make Stuart about six doses more pro-Israel than Maher. But he's consistently been the only person on television who makes fun of Israeli aggression. Plus, for the past seven years he's been on the wagon, with this Obama fellow ensconced. Let no one forget how hysterical John Stewart was at his height during the Bush debacle, truly. Definitely he's been running on empty for the past three years or so though. I'll refer you to Steve's earned right to say as he sometimes does that he's good at figuring out how the world works, I'll refer you to that and take it as cover and say I'm pretty good at figuring who is afraid and who is not. They have totally different formats, and structure is function. Stewart is not afraid to entertain anyone's ideas, its a matter of time, and the fact that you can't disagree with someone for the last five minutes of your comedy show. Recall when Stewart went on crossfire and said to the dumbfounded hacks "I think you are what is wrong with television." Maher is less afraid than most in the media for sure, but watch his satellite interview of the fearless Michael Scheur and tell me he don't look a lil timorous. (Then, for education, watch Scheur tell that kangaroo committee in congress that NO, he ran operations for the CIA.) Granted I'm bias. Stewart went to my alma mater and was in my frat. Funny though how these things perdure, and Pikes ain't never pussies ;/

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Dave Pinsen

    He and Sam Harris came down pretty hard on the religious zealotry of Islam in general, only to be to be denounced by Ben Affleck as they were doing it. Ben Affleck went to the you are stereotyping Muslims as fanatics is the same as saying blacks commit more crimes. Of course being good PC intimidated liberals, Maher and Harris didn't point that that was factually accurate, and therefore Ben's perception that he made a killer counterargument was dead wrong. Ben was of course smugly sure of himself when he made the argument and increasingly angry and shrill at Bill and Sam for not taking the bait, which of course is all that PC intimidated people can do. They know it's nonsense, but they can't say that, because then the argument becomes that they are racist, awful, horrible, human beings and then everyone ignores the argument about Islam and focuses the elephant in the living room reality of black crime.

  53. @iSteveFan
    OT, but now diversity is hitting Fargo, ND. There have been a series of news stories about two immigrant street gangs going at one another in Fargo.

    Thank goodness the Fargo PD is on the case.

    You know when you get different new American groups from different ethnic backgrounds from different areas, sometimes they come here with those cultural disputes between the groups, and likely that's what we are seeing here," says Lt. Michael Mitchell with the Fargo Police Department.
     
    I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads "String of violence running through the area" above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson

    “I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads “String of violence running through the area” above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC.”

    So Fargo has a major Negro crime problem even though Negroes make up only 2 percent of Fargo’s population. Are these Section 8 Negroes imported from Midwestern cities like Chicago and Milwaukee?

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Jefferson

    "So Fargo has a major Negro crime problem even though Negroes make up only 2 percent of Fargo’s population. Are these Section 8 Negroes imported from Midwestern cities like Chicago and Milwaukee?"

    If the situation in Fargo is anything like here in Sioux Falls, they're from Somalia for the most part, as well a whole host of other sub-Saharan countries ie., the Congo, Kenya, etc. They make up about two percent of the local population, and commit 90 percent of the armed robberies.

  54. OT
    Today is the 800th Anniversary of the signing of Magna carta… somehow, i don’t think there will be a public reading:

    * (10) If anyone who has borrowed a sum of money from Jews dies before the debt has been repaid, his heir shall pay no interest on the debt for so long as he remains under age, irrespective of whom he holds his lands. If such a debt falls into the hands of the Crown, it will take nothing except the principal sum specified in the bond. –

  55. @Dave Pinsen
    @Pat Casey

    He's pro-Israel, not because it's politically correct (increasingly, it's not), but because he's a liberal of a certain age, he's anti-Islam, and possibly because he's half-Jewish.

    When it comes to current events comedy, he's much better than the smug Jon Stewart / John Oliver types that flatter the views of the mainstream left and ridicule the opposition. Maher isn't afraid of having smart conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Charles Murray on his show.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @Unladen Swallow

    He’s never been better on current events comedy than John Stewart, not hardly. Particularly considering Maher has an entire week to think up half as many jokes as Stewart relays four days per week. Maher is six years older than Stuart, born in 56, which by something like Steve’s logic re the Six Day War, that should make Stuart about six doses more pro-Israel than Maher. But he’s consistently been the only person on television who makes fun of Israeli aggression. Plus, for the past seven years he’s been on the wagon, with this Obama fellow ensconced. Let no one forget how hysterical John Stewart was at his height during the Bush debacle, truly. Definitely he’s been running on empty for the past three years or so though. I’ll refer you to Steve’s earned right to say as he sometimes does that he’s good at figuring out how the world works, I’ll refer you to that and take it as cover and say I’m pretty good at figuring who is afraid and who is not. They have totally different formats, and structure is function. Stewart is not afraid to entertain anyone’s ideas, its a matter of time, and the fact that you can’t disagree with someone for the last five minutes of your comedy show. Recall when Stewart went on crossfire and said to the dumbfounded hacks “I think you are what is wrong with television.” Maher is less afraid than most in the media for sure, but watch his satellite interview of the fearless Michael Scheur and tell me he don’t look a lil timorous. (Then, for education, watch Scheur tell that kangaroo committee in congress that NO, he ran operations for the CIA.) Granted I’m bias. Stewart went to my alma mater and was in my frat. Funny though how these things perdure, and Pikes ain’t never pussies ;/

  56. @Hepp
    I'm not too optimistic about this "backlash" to PC. It's older guys like Bill Maher and Seinfeld, while younger comedians like Schumer and Louie CK are pretty much full SJW.

    Guys like Maher and Seinfeld have a voice because they were grandfathered it, becoming famous at a time when it was possible to be an up and coming comedian who wasn't fully PC. Jay Leno too, Sort of like how Pat Buchanan became famous a long time ago and still gets some MSM attention, while if he was a young writer saying these things he would have never gotten the chance to be influential.

    The next generation of comedians will be fully domesticated, and see these complaints about political correctness as nothing but the final grasp of some old white males who were insufficiently sensitive.

    Replies: @james wilson, @Anonitron, @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    I’m not so sure. Basically I think there has been a bifurcation at work. One stream- the PC stream ruthlessly enforces PC. There is another stream exemplified by Antony Jeselnik and Daniel Tosh that is joyfully anti-PC if basically still liberal in outlook. Seinfeld’s problem is that by not being a anti-PC comic he gets lumped in with the PC comics and judged by their standards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sam Haysom

    I saw Tosh live in Reno...he's trending PC faster than you think...he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward's..it's showing..

    Replies: @Jefferson

  57. @Sam Haysom
    @Hepp

    I'm not so sure. Basically I think there has been a bifurcation at work. One stream- the PC stream ruthlessly enforces PC. There is another stream exemplified by Antony Jeselnik and Daniel Tosh that is joyfully anti-PC if basically still liberal in outlook. Seinfeld's problem is that by not being a anti-PC comic he gets lumped in with the PC comics and judged by their standards.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I saw Tosh live in Reno…he’s trending PC faster than you think…he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward’s..it’s showing..

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "I saw Tosh live in Reno…he’s trending PC faster than you think…he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward’s..it’s showing.."

    There are rumors that Daniel Tosh is a closet Homosexual. His Nndb.com page does not even list him as being Straight and they tend to do a very good job of listing Heterosexual celebrities as being Straight. If you go to the Nndb.com profile pages of Kurt Russell or Adam Sandler for example, they will be listed as Straight under sexual orientation.

    I would not be surprised if the rumors are true because a lot of Daniel Tosh skits involve him doing some extremely Gay shit with other guys.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hepp
    I'm not too optimistic about this "backlash" to PC. It's older guys like Bill Maher and Seinfeld, while younger comedians like Schumer and Louie CK are pretty much full SJW.

    Guys like Maher and Seinfeld have a voice because they were grandfathered it, becoming famous at a time when it was possible to be an up and coming comedian who wasn't fully PC. Jay Leno too, Sort of like how Pat Buchanan became famous a long time ago and still gets some MSM attention, while if he was a young writer saying these things he would have never gotten the chance to be influential.

    The next generation of comedians will be fully domesticated, and see these complaints about political correctness as nothing but the final grasp of some old white males who were insufficiently sensitive.

    Replies: @james wilson, @Anonitron, @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    You say white males…. Does anyone know what’s happening on the black comedy circuit? I just can’t see blacks caving to this sort of PC policing.

    They won’t get any TV coverage doing certain material…But nowadays there are other ways to reach an audience.

    Would certain people get banned from clubs?…It seems like it may end up like the music scene, where black artists say the most outrageously Un-PC things, they just don’t do it on their mass-market single…and the entire media pretend not to notice.

    It’s a strange thing. How do the SJWs select who gets the twitter hate-athon treatment. It’s almost random.

    At some point there has got to be an open conflict, and some sort of implicit (or explicit) rules will be established for what the mainstream will/won’t accept.

  59. “OT:
    There seems to be a lot of mainstream news stories online about how the case of trans-racialism in Spokane is in no way comparable to the Bruce Jenner case of trans-genderism. I skim read a few and they seem to be unable to explain why.”

    I tell Left Tards at The Huffington Post, Slate, Mother Jones, and Salon that Lady Boys/World War Ts are gender frauds because they claim to be “women” yet none of them are capable of becoming pregnant and none of them are capable of getting periods. I also told them that Lady Boys/World War Ts are more like to get prostate cancer than they are to get breast cancer.

  60. In the future, maybe all comedy will be unintentional (Bruce Jenner, etc.), and we’ll just have to do our laughing in private out of reach of the thought police.

  61. If Caitlyn Jenner or RuPaul were to get prostate cancer, how would the Left Wing Megaphone explain this? After all they have been trying to brainwash the American masses into believing that Trans are just as biologically female as Cisgendered women.

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    @Jefferson


    If Caitlyn Jenner or RuPaul were to get prostate cancer, how would the Left Wing Megaphone explain this?
     
    G-Spot?

    Replies: @Mike Zwick

  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Anonymous

    I love Brian Regan. The guy is a sort of genius, who should be as famous as Jerry Seinfeld. The late-great Mitch Hedburg is another example of a brilliant apolitical comic. I'd take one Brian Regan or Mitch Hedberg over a thousand Bill Hickses.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I love Brian Regan. The guy is a sort of genius, who should be as famous as Jerry Seinfeld. The late-great Mitch Hedburg is another example of a brilliant apolitical comic. I’d take one Brian Regan or Mitch Hedberg over a thousand Bill Hickses

    Funny you mentioned the late Mitch Hedberg. He was original third pick when commenting and the reason I used had/have. I then thought of Steven Wright who has the same kind of quirky humor and plugged his name in.

  63. @SPMoore8
    The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

     

    "Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!"

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.
     
    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

     

    The "Other" box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

     

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let's do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Well, it's better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”
     
    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.
     
    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

     

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.
     
    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Pat Casey, @Jean Cocteausten, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Anonymous

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

    This one is hilarious. When I was in grad school, a professor saw me in a lab and asked me if I was a student in the department…because I was white and not a foreigner like every single other student in the department.

  64. @Massimo Heitor
    You can't kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn't have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Economic Sophisms, @SFG, @silviosilver, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    The thing about political humor is, it’s a lot funnier when you agree with the guy.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @SFG

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there's also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn't find anything amusing about that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Father O'Hara, @Anonymous

    , @Erik L
    @SFG

    I'd say that agreeing with the guy is the entire point of political humor; people laugh because we in the group are agreeing that those in the other group are wrong, stupid and kind of evil; my least favorite form of humor

  65. Scientists are a bunch of PC cowards. Where is the science community when you need them to denounce Trans people as being real biological women. Scientists are in the pockets of social justice warrior liberal progressives.

  66. @Massimo Heitor
    @rod1963


    Of course PC audiences suck. They don’t want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.
     
    Most of us like non-humor political coverage+commentary in addition to humor. The PC left likes humor and non-humor, which is normal. Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.

    There is some truth to humor in that people don't laugh if something isn't authentically funny, but humor isn't some gold standard of wisdom or insight either.

    Replies: @International Jew, @TB

    Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.

    Mark Steyn is humorous.

  67. OT, but I just had to post. This story just keeps writing itself. Here’s a Rachel Dolezal tribute from her former fiance , apparently “an aspiring Jackson, Mississippi rapper.” Love the lyrics: “‘Your legs are the sensual bridges to heaven… The sweetest vajayjay more cosmic than the milky way”. You can’t make this stuff up.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    That is simply incredible.

    Note that it was posted -- unless there's some hacking here -- 2.5 years ago on January 1, 2013.

    One the one hand, it's sad and embarrassing. On the other hand .... wow. I can't help but wonder what happened to the ring.

  68. For me Maher and Seinfeld are not funny as in, “Never made me laugh”. Larry David with Curb Your Enthusiasm, this show has it moments. Here is one non-politically correct scene where Larry is imitating a retarded guy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I05zVj7gxyU
    Larry David was the producer of the Seinfeld show and made a few hundred million from that.

  69. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Big Bill
    @Anonymous


    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny.
     
    You should probably stay away from Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, the Keystone Kops, the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, Your Show of Shows, Laugh-in, Mel Brooks, the Smothers Brothers, Flip Wilson, Redd Foxx and (heaven forfend!) Lenny Bruce.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny.

    You should probably stay away from Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, the Keystone Kops, the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, Your Show of Shows, Laugh-in, Mel Brooks, the Smothers Brothers, Flip Wilson, Redd Foxx and (heaven forfend!) Lenny Bruce.

    Yeah, no I don’t find any of the aforementioned funny. But I do retract my statement. I think the most hilarious guy out around, while not a comedian per se, is Michael Savage. Some of his comments, which are targeted at groups and individuals, have me in tears. He is so quick and has the ability to phrase things in the funniest way. I don’t think I’m alone here because he is number one in the ratings.

  70. @Dave Pinsen
    @Pat Casey

    He's pro-Israel, not because it's politically correct (increasingly, it's not), but because he's a liberal of a certain age, he's anti-Islam, and possibly because he's half-Jewish.

    When it comes to current events comedy, he's much better than the smug Jon Stewart / John Oliver types that flatter the views of the mainstream left and ridicule the opposition. Maher isn't afraid of having smart conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Charles Murray on his show.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @Unladen Swallow

    He and Sam Harris came down pretty hard on the religious zealotry of Islam in general, only to be to be denounced by Ben Affleck as they were doing it. Ben Affleck went to the you are stereotyping Muslims as fanatics is the same as saying blacks commit more crimes. Of course being good PC intimidated liberals, Maher and Harris didn’t point that that was factually accurate, and therefore Ben’s perception that he made a killer counterargument was dead wrong. Ben was of course smugly sure of himself when he made the argument and increasingly angry and shrill at Bill and Sam for not taking the bait, which of course is all that PC intimidated people can do. They know it’s nonsense, but they can’t say that, because then the argument becomes that they are racist, awful, horrible, human beings and then everyone ignores the argument about Islam and focuses the elephant in the living room reality of black crime.

  71. @Massimo Heitor
    @rod1963


    Of course PC audiences suck. They don’t want comedy, they want political jabs and lectures disguised as comedy.
     
    Most of us like non-humor political coverage+commentary in addition to humor. The PC left likes humor and non-humor, which is normal. Right wing talk radio is mostly not-humorous.

    There is some truth to humor in that people don't laugh if something isn't authentically funny, but humor isn't some gold standard of wisdom or insight either.

    Replies: @International Jew, @TB

    John Derbyshire’s RadioDerb pod cast is hilarious. That man is a polymath genious.

  72. I can’t remember a single thing I ever heard Bill Maher said that was funny. Not one.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    Suggesting Face Ripper Monkey as a GOP candidate for national office was pretty funny: http://youtu.be/ca9fOZ-Y74I

    He also had a standup bit about white sports fans who say "we won" when their team wins: "You didn't win anything. A bunch of black guys who would hate you if they knew you won."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @EriK

  73. @SFG
    @Massimo Heitor

    The thing about political humor is, it's a lot funnier when you agree with the guy.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there’s also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn’t find anything amusing about that.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Harry Baldwin

    "True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there’s also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn’t find anything amusing about that."

    It is considered racist to compare an ugly Black woman to a man, but it is not considered racist to compare an ugly White woman to a man. Those are the double standards of the left wing Megaphone.

    Actually on second thought it is considered discrimination to compare an ugly White woman to a man if she is a Lesbian, but it is still okay to compare an ugly White woman to a man if she is Heterosexual.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @Harry Baldwin

    There's a theory that Barack Obama is really a man,I ain't buyin' that.

    , @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there’s also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn’t find anything amusing about that.
     
    You have to ease them into it. Make 'em think they reasoned it out for themselves.

    Next time, ask your friend if he was a quarterback, and had only two choices, which "man" would he choose to be his half-back, and why?
  74. @Harry Baldwin
    @SFG

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there's also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn't find anything amusing about that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Father O'Hara, @Anonymous

    “True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there’s also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn’t find anything amusing about that.”

    It is considered racist to compare an ugly Black woman to a man, but it is not considered racist to compare an ugly White woman to a man. Those are the double standards of the left wing Megaphone.

    Actually on second thought it is considered discrimination to compare an ugly White woman to a man if she is a Lesbian, but it is still okay to compare an ugly White woman to a man if she is Heterosexual.

  75. @Auntie Analogue

    "Bill Maher says liberals are killing comedy"
     
    The pot calling the kettle black.

    Replies: @Perspective

    My thoughts exactly. I’ve never found him to be very funny outside of the occasional joke. I wonder what he considers to be politically correct, from what I can tell he is an enforcer of political correctness.

  76. @Harry Baldwin
    @SFG

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there's also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn't find anything amusing about that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Father O'Hara, @Anonymous

    There’s a theory that Barack Obama is really a man,I ain’t buyin’ that.

  77. The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect, complain today because the drought in lucrative gigs at evermore PC colleges has hit them in the two places where they hurt: their pocketbooks and their egos.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Auntie Analogue

    "The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect,..........."

    I agree with many here that Maher was and is a PC enforcer. But I wouldn't say that about Seinfeld. He never struck me that way. His show poked fun at a lot of sacred cows, and not always even obvious ones. And it did so for the best possible reason - to be funny. Unlike a lot of sitcoms, Seinfeld didn't have an agenda, a purpose, or even a point of view - it was just done to elicit laughs. I give both Seinfeld and Larry David a lot of credit for that.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @SFG

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there's also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn't find anything amusing about that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Father O'Hara, @Anonymous

    True. My liberal friend once told me about the theory that Ann Coulter is actually a man, which he thought was hilarious. I told him that there’s also a theory that Michelle Obama is a man and he didn’t find anything amusing about that.

    You have to ease them into it. Make ’em think they reasoned it out for themselves.

    Next time, ask your friend if he was a quarterback, and had only two choices, which “man” would he choose to be his half-back, and why?

  79. @SPMoore8
    The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

     

    "Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!"

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.
     
    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

     

    The "Other" box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

     

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let's do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Well, it's better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”
     
    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.
     
    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

     

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.
     
    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Pat Casey, @Jean Cocteausten, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Anonymous

    “To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”

    Why is this wrong?”

    I kind of see where this is going. Now, I’m reasonably sure that I’m what you would call an introvert. I’ve been called out as being such, much in the manner described above. In the back of my mind, however, I can’t help but wonder if I would be similarly called out if I were 100% white instead of half-Asian. Because of the stereotype of Asians being quiet and introverted obviously.

  80. The killing of comedy by the obligation of avoiding hurting anyone’s fillings has been predicted at least since Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 in 1953, but it’s a wrong prediction, it will always be allowed to punch up at whites, christians, republicans, red necks, blondes and southerners even after the last ones will be rounded up and confined in ghettos and gulags.

  81. @james wilson
    @Hepp

    Maher is and always was as PC as the rest of them.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Maher is and always was as PC as the rest of them.”

    Bill Maher is not as PC as the rest of them. Bill Maher has been very vocal about saying that Islam is by far the most violent religion in the world by a landslide. Do you know of any other Liberals who are willing to admit that? Liberals always says that Christianity is just as violent if not more violent than Islam and than they use examples of Christians bombing abortion clinics yet the death count for abortion clinic bombings is nowhere near as high as the death count committed by Islamic terrorism. For some reason a lot of Liberals like to paint the Oklahoma City bombing as an example of Christian terrorism even though there is absolutely zero evidence that Timothy McVeigh blew up that building because he believed God or Jesus Christ told him to do it.

    At least Bill Maher as an Atheist is not a hypocrite. He has bashed all religions while the vast majority of Left Wing Atheists only bash Christianity because they are too politically correct to bash Islam and other Non Western religions. Most of the Atheist community is really just anti-Christianity more so than they are anti-religion in general.

    You also never see Liberal Atheists bash crazy superstitious Negro religions like voodoo for example.

    This is why I have an extreme hatred for most Atheists, because most of them are politically correct social justice warriors.

  82. Lot says:

    Wow, I must be the only one here who really likes Maher and his show. I watch it every week, though I tend to fast forward a lot and so it takes me 20 minutes to watch the hour.

    Aside from thinking he’s funny, he is also extremely valuable in that he shows mainstream TV audiences that you can get away with being extremely anti-Islam, legitimizing the viewpoint by being a glamorous celebrity TV host with views that most of the left would call extremely racist.

    He’s also very anti-war, and his frequent discussion of how bad the opinions of the majority of Muslims are is an important premise for opposition to invite the world. He makes the frequent point that “the problem isn’t radical Islam, the problem is just Islam.”

    On top of that, he’s nearly unique in having on HBD intellectuals regularly, especially Charles Murray, but also Amy Chua.

  83. Maher also frequently defended Donald Sterling during that scandal, and this week defended him again.

  84. Any of these schnooks coming to the defense of a certain French Cameroonian comedian who is regularly censored and harassed by the French government? I don’t think so.

    Search on French Cameroonian comedian to find out who.

    Back in the day, nobody came to the defense of Andrew Dice Clay either, but that was a long time ago.

  85. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Libbies aren’t so much killing comedy as making it superfluous.

    I mean what can be funnier than…

    Haven Monahan

    Emma ‘fuc* me in the butt’ Sulkowicz

    Bruce Caitlyn Jenner

    The white-black NAACP leader who made her blonde hair nappy and frizzy

    the Gentle Giant

    the baby armed with only skittles who nearly beat a ‘white hispanic’ to death before being shot

    the canceling of Vagina Monologue because it might offend trannies

    Pussy Riot

    ‘gay pride parades’ on the notion that it’s noble for a guy to have his ass rammed with another guy’s pud

    and etc.

    I mean you can’t make this stuff up.

    And who needs comedians when we got commentians?

    The comments on this site are hilarious.

    http://www.cecinestpasunviol.com/

  86. @yaqub the mad scientist
    OT, but I just had to post. This story just keeps writing itself. Here's a Rachel Dolezal tribute from her former fiance , apparently "an aspiring Jackson, Mississippi rapper." Love the lyrics: "'Your legs are the sensual bridges to heaven... The sweetest vajayjay more cosmic than the milky way". You can't make this stuff up.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    That is simply incredible.

    Note that it was posted — unless there’s some hacking here — 2.5 years ago on January 1, 2013.

    One the one hand, it’s sad and embarrassing. On the other hand …. wow. I can’t help but wonder what happened to the ring.

  87. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m a huge fan of Bill Burr. His comedy is basically non-PC common sense. Interestingly he makes some comments about differences between the races which an SJW would jump on, but he’s married to a black woman. He got me on to the now deceased Patrice O’neal. The funniest, non-PC comedy I’ve seen in a long time.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "I’m a huge fan of Bill Burr. His comedy is basically non-PC common sense. Interestingly he makes some comments about differences between the races which an SJW would jump on, but he’s married to a black woman. He got me on to the now deceased Patrice O’neal. The funniest, non-PC comedy I’ve seen in a long time."

    Bill Burr has nothing on Nick DiPaolo in terms of comedic material that will offend social justice warriors from Berkeley to Vermont.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM0y1tEzBNs
    https://twitter.com/flyhumor/status/205515767142301699

    Replies: @EriK

  88. Bill Maher is a PC enforcer.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    "Bill Maher is a PC enforcer."

    That is extremely false because he is not politically correct 100 percent of the time. His views on Islam are definitely not popular with his Left Wing Manhattan and Malibu buddies.

    Just because Bill Maher is a dirty Joo in the eyes of many iSteve readers like yourself, it does not mean he is wrong 100 percent of the time. If Bill Maher was a Goy, he would have gotten more credit around here for occasionally having a view would offend Liberals.

    If the Goy Chris Matthews was going on a tirade on Islam, I am pretty sure a lot of iSteve readers here would be praising him and saying he is a closet race realist.

    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew's mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    I am not a big fan of Blacks, but even I occasionally agree with something that comes out of a Negro person's mouth.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

  89. I’ve always disliked Bill Maher; even when I agree with him, I still want to punch him in the jaw.

  90. @Anonymous
    @Sam Haysom

    I saw Tosh live in Reno...he's trending PC faster than you think...he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward's..it's showing..

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I saw Tosh live in Reno…he’s trending PC faster than you think…he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward’s..it’s showing..”

    There are rumors that Daniel Tosh is a closet Homosexual. His Nndb.com page does not even list him as being Straight and they tend to do a very good job of listing Heterosexual celebrities as being Straight. If you go to the Nndb.com profile pages of Kurt Russell or Adam Sandler for example, they will be listed as Straight under sexual orientation.

    I would not be surprised if the rumors are true because a lot of Daniel Tosh skits involve him doing some extremely Gay shit with other guys.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    Doing gay things with/to other guys is the only form of masculine dominance available to youth.

  91. @e
    @Danindc

    robin williams was able to make fun of "some white dude" and some black dude" and get laughs from all age groups, i think.

    Replies: @Danindc

    Yep I bet. Never a huge fan but the man had talent.

  92. @Svigor
    Lots of people say that removing a white man's image from US currency, and replacing it with that of Harriet Tubman, is a bad idea. Personally, I think replacing Abe Lincoln with Harriet Tubman on the $5 bill is a wonderful idea. I'm all for it. And if you're wondering if I'm being sarcastic, the answer is no.

    I would, however, oppose replacing anyone but Lincoln. I am absolutely opposed to replacing Andrew Jackson's image with Tubman's. But replacing Lincoln's image with Tubman's, I'm all for that.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Chess Fan

    I am absolutely opposed to replacing Andrew Jackson’s image with Tubman’s.

    As I’ve said before, I wouldn’t mind seeing Jackson replaced with a figure from the arts or the sciences.As it currently stands, Benjamin Franklin is the only figure on our currency with notable achievements outside the political realm.

    So, if someone wants to replace Jackson with Emily Dickinson, or Edith Wharton, or Willa Cather, I’m all for it.Not Tubman, though.That would just be replacing one political figure with another.

  93. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Bill Maher is a PC enforcer.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Bill Maher is a PC enforcer.”

    That is extremely false because he is not politically correct 100 percent of the time. His views on Islam are definitely not popular with his Left Wing Manhattan and Malibu buddies.

    Just because Bill Maher is a dirty Joo in the eyes of many iSteve readers like yourself, it does not mean he is wrong 100 percent of the time. If Bill Maher was a Goy, he would have gotten more credit around here for occasionally having a view would offend Liberals.

    If the Goy Chris Matthews was going on a tirade on Islam, I am pretty sure a lot of iSteve readers here would be praising him and saying he is a closet race realist.

    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    I am not a big fan of Blacks, but even I occasionally agree with something that comes out of a Negro person’s mouth.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Jefferson

    Generally, I like your posts. But this was a silly reply. On all matters concerning race, Maher is a General in the PC Army. And as for dirty joos, that's not how I talk nor is it how I think. However, pointing out the curious lack of consistency among many jews concerning their own Zionism versus their open-borders multiculturalism for the West--well, I will never stop pointing it out. Our civilization is at stake.

    , @jeremiahjohnbalaya
    @Jefferson

    I loathe Bill Maher and would not even have guessed he is jewish.

  94. Maybe a new Lenny Bruce could come along and say sick, in-your-face things. The new twist could be that he tells blatantly un-PC jokes and stories that have the ring of truth. By being over-the-top, he could establish a coolness foothold among a new cognoscenti.

    Naaahhh.

  95. Bill Maher is very typical of a lot of other people I know who are his age. The me generation. They were on the tail end of the baby boom and had all the cynicism, ridicule, and anger of the hippies who were older but never made it into the 1980’s when it became cool to be conservative again. Their politics are completely frozen in the 1970’s. My guess is when he was younger, he did a lot of drugs. Born at the apex of America’s success, they have ridden the decline down without ever doing anything constructive or worthwhile.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Prof. Woland

    You are close to describing "Generation Jones," the late baby boomers who are now running things (into the ground.) Our US president is one, and his very election (affirmative action, because he is black, sort of) is a manifestation of that cohort's ways.

    Truly though, "we" are not all like that. We do know the feeling of decline though. I would call it living during the fall.

    We drank a lot of the aquarian Kool-Aid that our older hippy brothers and sisters were mixing. We were told a lot about the coming global village. We were taught that human nature is shapeable. We grew up on cultural relativism.

    We were fed a load of crap.

  96. @Anonymous
    I'm a huge fan of Bill Burr. His comedy is basically non-PC common sense. Interestingly he makes some comments about differences between the races which an SJW would jump on, but he's married to a black woman. He got me on to the now deceased Patrice O'neal. The funniest, non-PC comedy I've seen in a long time.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I’m a huge fan of Bill Burr. His comedy is basically non-PC common sense. Interestingly he makes some comments about differences between the races which an SJW would jump on, but he’s married to a black woman. He got me on to the now deceased Patrice O’neal. The funniest, non-PC comedy I’ve seen in a long time.”

    Bill Burr has nothing on Nick DiPaolo in terms of comedic material that will offend social justice warriors from Berkeley to Vermont.

    • Replies: @EriK
    @Jefferson

    Nick is one funny guy. I'm a big fan of his podcast.

  97. @Jefferson
    If Caitlyn Jenner or RuPaul were to get prostate cancer, how would the Left Wing Megaphone explain this? After all they have been trying to brainwash the American masses into believing that Trans are just as biologically female as Cisgendered women.

    Replies: @G Pinfold

    If Caitlyn Jenner or RuPaul were to get prostate cancer, how would the Left Wing Megaphone explain this?

    G-Spot?

    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    @G Pinfold

    Wouldn't it be ironic if Caitlyn got Male Breast cancer?

  98. @V Vega
    Mahr is a pundit. He hasn't been a comedian in years. All the major "comedians" are pundits or whore madams for their guests. A generation has grown up with Jon Stewart, Colbert, etc, actively and aggressively engaged in punditry under the guise of being comedians.

    Even George Carlin wasn't doing comedy in his last decade. It was always a glorified TED talk. He might as well have been a professor at a state college.

    Jeff Ross' comedy is for, and by, a select few: mean, bitter, out of work comedians. He just writes down what he hears the comics muttering while waiting to go on at the Comedy Store Belly Room, and uses it for his next "comedy" roast. I guess it's funny for people who have never been personally confronted during an introductory EST meeting.

    Why shouldn't it spill out into comedy clubs, full of mostly young people trained by these semi-comedic terrified middle-aged self-hating wastoids?

    Bill Mahr, you can't take repeated, massive dumps in your pants, and then complain that the proverbial room stinks. If you want the stink to dissipate, you really need to... leave the room.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DWright

    Maher is also a standup comedian. He announces his upcoming tour dates at the end of his HBO show.

  99. Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    It’s certainly a good bet. You might not get mugged walking through a bad neighborhood at midnight, and you might not get lied to by a propaganda spouting media elite. But why risk it?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Chief Seattle

    "Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    It’s certainly a good bet. You might not get mugged walking through a bad neighborhood at midnight, and you might not get lied to by a propaganda spouting media elite. But why risk it?"

    Plenty of Liberal Goys in America also go around saying that Whites are just as violent if not more violent than African Americans.

    Replies: @AnAnon

  100. @Mr. Anon
    I can't remember a single thing I ever heard Bill Maher said that was funny. Not one.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Suggesting Face Ripper Monkey as a GOP candidate for national office was pretty funny: http://youtu.be/ca9fOZ-Y74I

    He also had a standup bit about white sports fans who say “we won” when their team wins: “You didn’t win anything. A bunch of black guys who would hate you if they knew you won.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Yeah, well, as I don't like Maher, I haven't seen much of his work.

    , @EriK
    @Dave Pinsen

    Er, not really that funny.

  101. @Chief Seattle
    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    It's certainly a good bet. You might not get mugged walking through a bad neighborhood at midnight, and you might not get lied to by a propaganda spouting media elite. But why risk it?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    It’s certainly a good bet. You might not get mugged walking through a bad neighborhood at midnight, and you might not get lied to by a propaganda spouting media elite. But why risk it?”

    Plenty of Liberal Goys in America also go around saying that Whites are just as violent if not more violent than African Americans.

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    @Jefferson

    "Plenty of Liberal Goys in America also go around saying that Whites are just as violent if not more violent than African Americans." - but they don't go around acting like it or we'd have more fun on the internets.

  102. @Auntie Analogue
    The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect, complain today because the drought in lucrative gigs at evermore PC colleges has hit them in the two places where they hurt: their pocketbooks and their egos.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect,………..”

    I agree with many here that Maher was and is a PC enforcer. But I wouldn’t say that about Seinfeld. He never struck me that way. His show poked fun at a lot of sacred cows, and not always even obvious ones. And it did so for the best possible reason – to be funny. Unlike a lot of sitcoms, Seinfeld didn’t have an agenda, a purpose, or even a point of view – it was just done to elicit laughs. I give both Seinfeld and Larry David a lot of credit for that.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    It's hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    I don't think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour.... And the episode where Elaine couldn't figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not... And of course the sleazy lawyer 'Jackie Chiles'

    It's kind of strange that this fairly mild stuff may well be to risqué for contemporary audiences to handle.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @silviosilver, @poolside

  103. @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    Suggesting Face Ripper Monkey as a GOP candidate for national office was pretty funny: http://youtu.be/ca9fOZ-Y74I

    He also had a standup bit about white sports fans who say "we won" when their team wins: "You didn't win anything. A bunch of black guys who would hate you if they knew you won."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @EriK

    Yeah, well, as I don’t like Maher, I haven’t seen much of his work.

  104. Black Twitter is angry because the dead White shooter terrorist in Dallas who tried to kill police officers is not being referred to as a thug by the mainstream media and they say this is just another example of White privilege.
    https://twitter.com/hashtag/CrimingWhileWhite?src=hash

    How is it White privilege when the police filled his body with bullets. His White skin did not save his ass from a police execution. It is hard to have White privilege when your dead and worms and cockroaches are going to eat your body. But at least he wasn’t referred to as a thug right? Black social justice warriors are becoming even more bat shit crazy. Why is the Left so obsessed with the word thug?

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Jefferson

    Bill Maher on the underground racism of "thug".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju9YHQG_YMw

  105. meh says:

    “I used to fight with this audience all the time, because we used to get the audience strictly from liberal sources, then we got the audience like from everywhere and I’ve had a much better time the last couple of months,” he said.

    So….they admit they usually draw their audiences from “liberal sources”; nice to hear them admit it. I’ve noticed this since the 1970s when I first started watching TV: TV audiences are rarely representative of common opinion, they almost always are strongly left-wing in orientation/prejudices.

  106. @Prof. Woland
    Bill Maher is very typical of a lot of other people I know who are his age. The me generation. They were on the tail end of the baby boom and had all the cynicism, ridicule, and anger of the hippies who were older but never made it into the 1980's when it became cool to be conservative again. Their politics are completely frozen in the 1970's. My guess is when he was younger, he did a lot of drugs. Born at the apex of America's success, they have ridden the decline down without ever doing anything constructive or worthwhile.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    You are close to describing “Generation Jones,” the late baby boomers who are now running things (into the ground.) Our US president is one, and his very election (affirmative action, because he is black, sort of) is a manifestation of that cohort’s ways.

    Truly though, “we” are not all like that. We do know the feeling of decline though. I would call it living during the fall.

    We drank a lot of the aquarian Kool-Aid that our older hippy brothers and sisters were mixing. We were told a lot about the coming global village. We were taught that human nature is shapeable. We grew up on cultural relativism.

    We were fed a load of crap.

  107. @Marty
    Steve, I'd really like to know if many U.C. grads have stopped donating in protest of runaway leftism. Do you have any feel for this? I can't count myself, since I ended my donations to the library in'86, when they first started charging admission to baseball games.

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    I used to donate then the chancellor changed and they made a big announcement of blue and gold scholarships to “people of color”. I got a few calls and asked them if this was true. He said “yes” with a somewhat proud tone and I could tell he was black. I told him to get the money from Carnesale.

  108. @Mr. Anon
    @Auntie Analogue

    "The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect,..........."

    I agree with many here that Maher was and is a PC enforcer. But I wouldn't say that about Seinfeld. He never struck me that way. His show poked fun at a lot of sacred cows, and not always even obvious ones. And it did so for the best possible reason - to be funny. Unlike a lot of sitcoms, Seinfeld didn't have an agenda, a purpose, or even a point of view - it was just done to elicit laughs. I give both Seinfeld and Larry David a lot of credit for that.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    It’s hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "It’s hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her."

    Is she a real Native American or an Elizabeth Warren Native American? Where I live the only people that resemble the real Native Americans in phenotype are the Spanish speaking Brown hordes from south of the border.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  109. @Jefferson
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    "Bill Maher is a PC enforcer."

    That is extremely false because he is not politically correct 100 percent of the time. His views on Islam are definitely not popular with his Left Wing Manhattan and Malibu buddies.

    Just because Bill Maher is a dirty Joo in the eyes of many iSteve readers like yourself, it does not mean he is wrong 100 percent of the time. If Bill Maher was a Goy, he would have gotten more credit around here for occasionally having a view would offend Liberals.

    If the Goy Chris Matthews was going on a tirade on Islam, I am pretty sure a lot of iSteve readers here would be praising him and saying he is a closet race realist.

    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew's mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    I am not a big fan of Blacks, but even I occasionally agree with something that comes out of a Negro person's mouth.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

    Generally, I like your posts. But this was a silly reply. On all matters concerning race, Maher is a General in the PC Army. And as for dirty joos, that’s not how I talk nor is it how I think. However, pointing out the curious lack of consistency among many jews concerning their own Zionism versus their open-borders multiculturalism for the West–well, I will never stop pointing it out. Our civilization is at stake.

  110. @Jefferson
    Black Twitter is angry because the dead White shooter terrorist in Dallas who tried to kill police officers is not being referred to as a thug by the mainstream media and they say this is just another example of White privilege.
    https://twitter.com/hashtag/CrimingWhileWhite?src=hash

    How is it White privilege when the police filled his body with bullets. His White skin did not save his ass from a police execution. It is hard to have White privilege when your dead and worms and cockroaches are going to eat your body. But at least he wasn't referred to as a thug right? Black social justice warriors are becoming even more bat shit crazy. Why is the Left so obsessed with the word thug?

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    Bill Maher on the underground racism of “thug”.

  111. @Jefferson
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    "Bill Maher is a PC enforcer."

    That is extremely false because he is not politically correct 100 percent of the time. His views on Islam are definitely not popular with his Left Wing Manhattan and Malibu buddies.

    Just because Bill Maher is a dirty Joo in the eyes of many iSteve readers like yourself, it does not mean he is wrong 100 percent of the time. If Bill Maher was a Goy, he would have gotten more credit around here for occasionally having a view would offend Liberals.

    If the Goy Chris Matthews was going on a tirade on Islam, I am pretty sure a lot of iSteve readers here would be praising him and saying he is a closet race realist.

    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew's mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    I am not a big fan of Blacks, but even I occasionally agree with something that comes out of a Negro person's mouth.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

    I loathe Bill Maher and would not even have guessed he is jewish.

  112. @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    It's hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “It’s hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her.”

    Is she a real Native American or an Elizabeth Warren Native American? Where I live the only people that resemble the real Native Americans in phenotype are the Spanish speaking Brown hordes from south of the border.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jefferson

    @Dave Pinsen

    @Anonymous

    Indeed. Seinfeld polked fun at foreigners, blacks, indians, orientals, Puerto Ricans, WASPs, Christians, Jews, gays, the handicapped, charities, the AIDS-walk mania, doctors, etc. Mild as it was, it's hard to imagine a lot of that being done today.

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Auntie Analogue

    "The Mahers and Seinfelds of the world, until now smug and lavishly-paid and worshipped for the PC edifice they helped to erect,..........."

    I agree with many here that Maher was and is a PC enforcer. But I wouldn't say that about Seinfeld. He never struck me that way. His show poked fun at a lot of sacred cows, and not always even obvious ones. And it did so for the best possible reason - to be funny. Unlike a lot of sitcoms, Seinfeld didn't have an agenda, a purpose, or even a point of view - it was just done to elicit laughs. I give both Seinfeld and Larry David a lot of credit for that.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    I don’t think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour…. And the episode where Elaine couldn’t figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not… And of course the sleazy lawyer ‘Jackie Chiles’

    It’s kind of strange that this fairly mild stuff may well be to risqué for contemporary audiences to handle.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "And the episode where Elaine couldn’t figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not… "

    And the guy thought Elaine was Latina because of her curly black hair. In the end she found out the guy was not African American and he found out she was not Hispanic. They were just 2 White Gringos who love to shop at the Gap store.

    , @silviosilver
    @Anonymous


    I don’t think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour…. And the episode where Elaine couldn’t figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not… And of course the sleazy lawyer ‘Jackie Chiles’
     
    I couldn't see the George's black friend episode or the "not that there's anything wrong with that" episode about homosexuality being made today. In the early 90s white liberals could easily laugh at not having black friends because even many of them didn't, but today that's seriously "not funny." And there wasn't anything like the pressure to pretend that homosexuality is completely unremarkable (unless you're remarking on how it's superior to heterosexuality) that there is today.
    , @poolside
    @Anonymous


    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.
     
    The other day I was watching a documentary on television shows in the '70s that included several clips from "All in the Family" and "The Jeffersons."

    My 20-something kids were shocked that television shows from the era actually made jokes about blacks and whites not exactly living in harmony. In one of the clips, the character Tom Willis from "The Jeffersons" actually uses the "N" word after George Jefferson calls him a honky; I thought my kids were going to fall out of their chairs.
  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @SPMoore8
    The original two page handout of microagressions in here in PDF format.

    Just to list a few microagressions/hate crimes in addition to the above:

    A person asks a woman her age and, upon hearing
    she is 31, looks quickly at her ring finger.

     

    "Your honor, I did not commit the hate crime of furtively looking at her finger!"

    Shows surprise when a feminine woman turns out
    to be a lesbian.
     
    Okay, I guess I will have to assume that all women are lesbians or bisexual.

    Being forced to choose Male or Female when
    completing basic forms.

     

    The "Other" box is on its way.

    Two options for relationship status: married or
    single.

     

    Actually, divorce or widowed is also frequently listed. Let's do all 65 (or whatever it is) like they do on Facebook!

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Well, it's better than talking with your hands.

    To an Asian, Latino or Native American: “Why are
    you so quiet? We want to know what you think. Be
    more verbal.” “Speak up more.”
     
    Why is this wrong?

    Someone crosses to the other side of the street to
    avoid a person of color.
     
    At 3 AM, in Manhattan, you bet.

    While walking through the halls of the Chemistry
    building, a professor approaches a post-doctoral
    student of color to ask if she/he is lost, making the
    assumption that the person is trying to break into
    one of the labs.

     

    More likely they are making the assumption that the person is, in fact, lost.

    Denying the experiences of students by
    questioning the credibility /validity of their stories.
     
    Haven Monahan sends his regards.

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Pat Casey, @Jean Cocteausten, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Anonymous

    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.

    Talking to someone is a multichannel communication. In addition to the primary vocal channel there is a second channel of various out-of-band, many of which visual, cues. You can see if someone understands you, agrees with you etc without asking most of the time. That is why you have a face-to-face talk, when you want to see eye-to-eye with somebody. Many blind do not learn this language, and they can’t receive your cues even when they’d learned somewhat.

    So, a blind person didn’t affirm your statement by nodding, or saying ‘yeah’, or something and you’re not sure he understood you. What do you do? You… speak… slowly.

    So, a blind person has not turned towards you when you started to speak to him in a group. Is he ‘lending you an ear’, as some blind people do by turning the side of their faces to you, or has he not heard you? What do you do? YOU RAISE YOUR VOICE.

    Bitching “[I am/ He is] blind, not deaf”, is not helpful.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    The notion of sub-verbal cues is a very good point. Not only do we normally expect visual cues we expect verbal cues of the "uh huh" variety -- sort of a mini-call and response. The absence of such cues can be especially disconcerting in phone calls. Without that constant feedback, voices will tend to slow down, pause, hem and haw, and ending every sentence with "OK" and so on. This may be how upspeak may have developed, that is, the style of speaking which intonates every statement as an interrogatory. Problem with upspeak it that sounds like someone is simply saying over and over, "please don't hit me."

    I remember many years ago trying to explain some spatial relationship to a blind person. I ended up taking his hand and drawing with my fingers on his fingers and palm. It worked; but I'm sure it would be considered sexual assault or something today.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  115. @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    I don't think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour.... And the episode where Elaine couldn't figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not... And of course the sleazy lawyer 'Jackie Chiles'

    It's kind of strange that this fairly mild stuff may well be to risqué for contemporary audiences to handle.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @silviosilver, @poolside

    “And the episode where Elaine couldn’t figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not… ”

    And the guy thought Elaine was Latina because of her curly black hair. In the end she found out the guy was not African American and he found out she was not Hispanic. They were just 2 White Gringos who love to shop at the Gap store.

  116. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "I’m a huge fan of Bill Burr. His comedy is basically non-PC common sense. Interestingly he makes some comments about differences between the races which an SJW would jump on, but he’s married to a black woman. He got me on to the now deceased Patrice O’neal. The funniest, non-PC comedy I’ve seen in a long time."

    Bill Burr has nothing on Nick DiPaolo in terms of comedic material that will offend social justice warriors from Berkeley to Vermont.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM0y1tEzBNs
    https://twitter.com/flyhumor/status/205515767142301699

    Replies: @EriK

    Nick is one funny guy. I’m a big fan of his podcast.

  117. He’s hilariously un-pc:

    Bill Maher’s Dr. Seuss parody for migrant kids (and New Rule!)

    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.

    You thought our arms would be open,
    Our streets would be gleaming,
    Instead of that,
    You got teabaggers screaming.

    The teabaggers say,
    “It’s not that we’re monsters
    Or that we don’t care.
    It’s just that God put us here,
    And God put you there.”

    So cut us some slack,
    Turn that frown upside-down,
    It’s not our fault
    You’re a little too brown.

    So be careful out there,
    Or immigration will catch you.
    And remember to never believe
    What you read on a statue.

    Tube: Bill Maher Reads Oh, the Places You’ll Go ! … and Get Kicked Out Of

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    You got teabaggers screaming.

    How is this not PC? He is criticizing the conservativers for not welcoming the illegals.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    This was the Bill Maher I was trying to explain to Jefferson. Sure, Maher gets a C+ on islam but in the places where he's bad (black America, immigration), he's just about the worst.

    , @Anonymous
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.
     
    Shalom, African migrant,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Israel
    Now please go away...


    Someone with more talent can improve and continue it, but you get the gist.
  118. WhatEvvs [AKA "Prada Yada Yada"] says:

    We don’t need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal.

    Pardon the link to Jezebel, but there’s an embedded video here where Rachel discourses on “black hair” (i.e., Negro hair) that has to be seen to be believed:

    http://jezebel.com/rachel-dolezal-definitely-nailed-the-hair-ill-give-her-1710899988

    She didn’t just nail the hair. She nailed everything. It was (is?) a brilliant impersonation of a sort of snotty, entitled one-drop-rule black woman who makes up for the lack of melanin and street cred by rockin the hair.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @WhatEvvs

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @syonredux, @WhatEvvs

    , @Anon
    @WhatEvvs

    "We don’t need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal."

    We live in a strange world where everything turns into a joke but cannot be joked about.

    Sort of like a democratic North Korea in a way.

    It's like no one can laugh at Kim Jong Un but the guy is a total joke.

    Replies: @Justpassingby

  119. @WhatEvvs
    We don't need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal.

    Pardon the link to Jezebel, but there's an embedded video here where Rachel discourses on "black hair" (i.e., Negro hair) that has to be seen to be believed:

    http://jezebel.com/rachel-dolezal-definitely-nailed-the-hair-ill-give-her-1710899988

    She didn't just nail the hair. She nailed everything. It was (is?) a brilliant impersonation of a sort of snotty, entitled one-drop-rule black woman who makes up for the lack of melanin and street cred by rockin the hair.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, she's a good looking gal, and because I am old school I regret that she doesn't have a husband and a baby to look after.

    There's a lot more about Rachel on the web and I am starting to feel bad about it. But it should be said that it looks like this whole thing got started because of these harassment letters that she claimed she was receiving: that's what put her in the spotlight. And the letters appear to be fake. In one of them, there was a xerox picture of a man holding a shotgun; I don't know who the guy was, but he looked an awful lot like her dad. I'm at the point where I don't really want to know any more about her private life, I am starting to feel sorry for her, the same as with Jackie.

    The only reason I don't feel completely sorry for Emma yet is because that she is still doing stuff that is damaging to a specific other person. Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone. (Not denying the harm they may have caused different communities.)

    Part of what's going on here is that the media is enabling these women to act the way they are acting (Hi, Sabrina!). Ultimately, it's cruel, but it was also cruel that their families, friends, and associates allowed them to carry on this way and get this far. Meanwhile, Caitlyn is continuing her exhibitionism.

    This is becoming a pattern. Every month or so we get some woman who captures everyone's attention for being victimized in some way. And then she is disgraced. It's funny as hell but it's also ....... unhealthy and also sad. Something is wrong here.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @WhatEvvs

    , @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    She makes a nice looking black lady.
     
    Perhaps another factor in her trans-racial aspirations? As a White woman, she was medium pretty.As a "Blackish" woman, though, she's very pretty indeed, the kind of barely-Black, could easily pass the paper bag test gal who is the envy of the great mass of Black chicks.

    The female desire to be hotter explains so many things...

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Malcolm X-Lax

    , @WhatEvvs
    @Steve Sailer

    I was thinking the same thing. She makes a better looking black lady than white lady, because the tan (tanning bed and makeup) covers up the freckles, and her nose as an African-American looks Caucasian, but when she was white it was too wide. And then all that kewl hair....

  120. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @WhatEvvs
    We don't need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal.

    Pardon the link to Jezebel, but there's an embedded video here where Rachel discourses on "black hair" (i.e., Negro hair) that has to be seen to be believed:

    http://jezebel.com/rachel-dolezal-definitely-nailed-the-hair-ill-give-her-1710899988

    She didn't just nail the hair. She nailed everything. It was (is?) a brilliant impersonation of a sort of snotty, entitled one-drop-rule black woman who makes up for the lack of melanin and street cred by rockin the hair.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    “We don’t need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal.”

    We live in a strange world where everything turns into a joke but cannot be joked about.

    Sort of like a democratic North Korea in a way.

    It’s like no one can laugh at Kim Jong Un but the guy is a total joke.

    • Replies: @Justpassingby
    @Anon


    We live in a strange world where everything turns into a joke but cannot be joked about.
    Sort of like a democratic North Korea in a way.
    It’s like no one can laugh at Kim Jong Un but the guy is a total joke.
     
    You make an interesting point: North Korea has but one Kim Jong Un; the USA has, what, 200,000,000 notable unjokeables?
  121. @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8


    Raising your voice or speaking slowly when
    addressing a blind student.
     
    Talking to someone is a multichannel communication. In addition to the primary vocal channel there is a second channel of various out-of-band, many of which visual, cues. You can see if someone understands you, agrees with you etc without asking most of the time. That is why you have a face-to-face talk, when you want to see eye-to-eye with somebody. Many blind do not learn this language, and they can't receive your cues even when they'd learned somewhat.

    So, a blind person didn't affirm your statement by nodding, or saying 'yeah', or something and you're not sure he understood you. What do you do? You... speak... slowly.

    So, a blind person has not turned towards you when you started to speak to him in a group. Is he 'lending you an ear', as some blind people do by turning the side of their faces to you, or has he not heard you? What do you do? YOU RAISE YOUR VOICE.

    Bitching "[I am/ He is] blind, not deaf", is not helpful.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    The notion of sub-verbal cues is a very good point. Not only do we normally expect visual cues we expect verbal cues of the “uh huh” variety — sort of a mini-call and response. The absence of such cues can be especially disconcerting in phone calls. Without that constant feedback, voices will tend to slow down, pause, hem and haw, and ending every sentence with “OK” and so on. This may be how upspeak may have developed, that is, the style of speaking which intonates every statement as an interrogatory. Problem with upspeak it that sounds like someone is simply saying over and over, “please don’t hit me.”

    I remember many years ago trying to explain some spatial relationship to a blind person. I ended up taking his hand and drawing with my fingers on his fingers and palm. It worked; but I’m sure it would be considered sexual assault or something today.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @SPMoore8

    When someone is talking to you in a foreign language you don't understand perfectly, it's amazing how fast they guess whether or not you understand what they've just said. Your face involuntarily gives a constant stream of cues, capable of changing several times a second.

  122. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "I saw Tosh live in Reno…he’s trending PC faster than you think…he gets his paycheck signed by the same guy that signs Steward’s..it’s showing.."

    There are rumors that Daniel Tosh is a closet Homosexual. His Nndb.com page does not even list him as being Straight and they tend to do a very good job of listing Heterosexual celebrities as being Straight. If you go to the Nndb.com profile pages of Kurt Russell or Adam Sandler for example, they will be listed as Straight under sexual orientation.

    I would not be surprised if the rumors are true because a lot of Daniel Tosh skits involve him doing some extremely Gay shit with other guys.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Doing gay things with/to other guys is the only form of masculine dominance available to youth.

  123. @Steve Sailer
    @WhatEvvs

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @syonredux, @WhatEvvs

    Yeah, she’s a good looking gal, and because I am old school I regret that she doesn’t have a husband and a baby to look after.

    There’s a lot more about Rachel on the web and I am starting to feel bad about it. But it should be said that it looks like this whole thing got started because of these harassment letters that she claimed she was receiving: that’s what put her in the spotlight. And the letters appear to be fake. In one of them, there was a xerox picture of a man holding a shotgun; I don’t know who the guy was, but he looked an awful lot like her dad. I’m at the point where I don’t really want to know any more about her private life, I am starting to feel sorry for her, the same as with Jackie.

    The only reason I don’t feel completely sorry for Emma yet is because that she is still doing stuff that is damaging to a specific other person. Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone. (Not denying the harm they may have caused different communities.)

    Part of what’s going on here is that the media is enabling these women to act the way they are acting (Hi, Sabrina!). Ultimately, it’s cruel, but it was also cruel that their families, friends, and associates allowed them to carry on this way and get this far. Meanwhile, Caitlyn is continuing her exhibitionism.

    This is becoming a pattern. Every month or so we get some woman who captures everyone’s attention for being victimized in some way. And then she is disgraced. It’s funny as hell but it’s also ……. unhealthy and also sad. Something is wrong here.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @SPMoore8

    Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone.

    I don't know how you can say that. They both made up fake crimes that could have ended up ruining someone's life if things had worked out a little differently. Fake crime reports would do a lot more damage were it not for the fact that those who make them are usually too stupid and/or unbalanced to concoct a credibly coherent story.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @WhatEvvs
    @SPMoore8

    I don't feel bad for her. She's a complete exhibitionist, making the rounds of morning talk shows, etc. She's completely brazen and unrepentent.

    And she gets crazier by the nanosecond. Smoking Gun has something about her suing Howard U as a white woman, claiming they discriminated against her...as a white person.

    Also, she is a witness against her bio-bro in a sexual assault case. I have zero clue as to whether there is anything to this case, whether it's genuine or trumped up, but she is clearly part of a very screwed up family drama.

    [Totally O/T, but may be relevant to a future Sailer post: The parents are evangelical Christians who are really into "invite the world." There is a strain of Evangelical Christianity that is really masochistic. It's powered by outwardly submissive but essentially control freaky, domineering women who are ga-ga about adopting non-white orphans. They are actively creating what they think is a post-racial America, which they envision will be a rainbow coalition of rapture believers, just like them. They are bonkers, and this is what Rachel grew up in.]

  124. @G Pinfold
    @Jefferson


    If Caitlyn Jenner or RuPaul were to get prostate cancer, how would the Left Wing Megaphone explain this?
     
    G-Spot?

    Replies: @Mike Zwick

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if Caitlyn got Male Breast cancer?

  125. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:

    One problem in this country is that if you don’t identify with being a Liberal it is assumed that you are Conservative. So when Jerry Seinfeld says he doesn’t play colleges, he is suddenly a conservative. The real world is more nuanced than that and one can be liberal and see the humor of, off color, non PC jokes or conservative and see the humor of dirty jokes. Or, one can not identify at all with being conservative or liberal. But it seems that they want everybody in two camps fighting with each other constantly.

  126. @Massimo Heitor
    You can't kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn't have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Economic Sophisms, @SFG, @silviosilver, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud.

    Me too. He’s got a real knack for it. “Ethnic Extremist Leaves US To Fight In Middle Eastern Tribal War”(about David Brookes’ son) and “‘How Immigration Can Hurt A Country, In Theory Not Just In Reality” are a couple of my favorites.

  127. @Anonymous
    The funniest comedians never have/had to worry about offending anyone. E.g., Brian Regan, Jim Gaffigan, Steven Wright, et al. Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that's fine, but it's not comedy.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Big Bill, @silviosilver

    Humor at the expense of other people? Never funny. If you want to use humor in political or social commentary and satire that’s fine, but it’s not comedy.

    Eat your heart out.

  128. @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    The notion of sub-verbal cues is a very good point. Not only do we normally expect visual cues we expect verbal cues of the "uh huh" variety -- sort of a mini-call and response. The absence of such cues can be especially disconcerting in phone calls. Without that constant feedback, voices will tend to slow down, pause, hem and haw, and ending every sentence with "OK" and so on. This may be how upspeak may have developed, that is, the style of speaking which intonates every statement as an interrogatory. Problem with upspeak it that sounds like someone is simply saying over and over, "please don't hit me."

    I remember many years ago trying to explain some spatial relationship to a blind person. I ended up taking his hand and drawing with my fingers on his fingers and palm. It worked; but I'm sure it would be considered sexual assault or something today.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    When someone is talking to you in a foreign language you don’t understand perfectly, it’s amazing how fast they guess whether or not you understand what they’ve just said. Your face involuntarily gives a constant stream of cues, capable of changing several times a second.

  129. @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    I don't think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour.... And the episode where Elaine couldn't figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not... And of course the sleazy lawyer 'Jackie Chiles'

    It's kind of strange that this fairly mild stuff may well be to risqué for contemporary audiences to handle.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @silviosilver, @poolside

    I don’t think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour…. And the episode where Elaine couldn’t figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not… And of course the sleazy lawyer ‘Jackie Chiles’

    I couldn’t see the George’s black friend episode or the “not that there’s anything wrong with that” episode about homosexuality being made today. In the early 90s white liberals could easily laugh at not having black friends because even many of them didn’t, but today that’s seriously “not funny.” And there wasn’t anything like the pressure to pretend that homosexuality is completely unremarkable (unless you’re remarking on how it’s superior to heterosexuality) that there is today.

  130. @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    Suggesting Face Ripper Monkey as a GOP candidate for national office was pretty funny: http://youtu.be/ca9fOZ-Y74I

    He also had a standup bit about white sports fans who say "we won" when their team wins: "You didn't win anything. A bunch of black guys who would hate you if they knew you won."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @EriK

    Er, not really that funny.

  131. @SFG
    @Massimo Heitor

    The thing about political humor is, it's a lot funnier when you agree with the guy.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L

    I’d say that agreeing with the guy is the entire point of political humor; people laugh because we in the group are agreeing that those in the other group are wrong, stupid and kind of evil; my least favorite form of humor

  132. @SPMoore8
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, she's a good looking gal, and because I am old school I regret that she doesn't have a husband and a baby to look after.

    There's a lot more about Rachel on the web and I am starting to feel bad about it. But it should be said that it looks like this whole thing got started because of these harassment letters that she claimed she was receiving: that's what put her in the spotlight. And the letters appear to be fake. In one of them, there was a xerox picture of a man holding a shotgun; I don't know who the guy was, but he looked an awful lot like her dad. I'm at the point where I don't really want to know any more about her private life, I am starting to feel sorry for her, the same as with Jackie.

    The only reason I don't feel completely sorry for Emma yet is because that she is still doing stuff that is damaging to a specific other person. Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone. (Not denying the harm they may have caused different communities.)

    Part of what's going on here is that the media is enabling these women to act the way they are acting (Hi, Sabrina!). Ultimately, it's cruel, but it was also cruel that their families, friends, and associates allowed them to carry on this way and get this far. Meanwhile, Caitlyn is continuing her exhibitionism.

    This is becoming a pattern. Every month or so we get some woman who captures everyone's attention for being victimized in some way. And then she is disgraced. It's funny as hell but it's also ....... unhealthy and also sad. Something is wrong here.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @WhatEvvs

    Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone.

    I don’t know how you can say that. They both made up fake crimes that could have ended up ruining someone’s life if things had worked out a little differently. Fake crime reports would do a lot more damage were it not for the fact that those who make them are usually too stupid and/or unbalanced to concoct a credibly coherent story.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Rob McX

    Well, the fact is, neither Jackie nor Rachel ever actually accused a specific person. Looked at from outside, neither of them were doing anything else than trying to get people to pay attention -- or perhaps, pay homage -- to them. The proper reaction in both cases would have been to ignore them, which is apparently what happened, and to get them to seek counseling of some kind.

    What happened in both cases is that the media got hold of the stories and went to town: and that's their job. In Jackie's case, however, at least, in retrospect she never should have been written up by Rolling Stone the way she was.

    I don't know. I'm seeing a lot of troubled women out there and I feel sorry about that. But you are right, they have potential to do grave harm. Don't we have any grownups in our society anymore?

  133. @Steve Sailer
    @WhatEvvs

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @syonredux, @WhatEvvs

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    Perhaps another factor in her trans-racial aspirations? As a White woman, she was medium pretty.As a “Blackish” woman, though, she’s very pretty indeed, the kind of barely-Black, could easily pass the paper bag test gal who is the envy of the great mass of Black chicks.

    The female desire to be hotter explains so many things…

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @syonredux

    As a White woman, she was medium pretty. As a “Blackish” woman, though, she’s very pretty indeed

    Also, lower BMI than I see on a lot of the local African American women.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    @syonredux

    There also has to be an inverse correlation between skin color and sense of aggrievement. The lighter the skin, the angrier the sista. Maybe greater militancy is the tribute the light-skinned black women pay to their darker sistas, because they know they are preferred by the brothas. Not an original observation, I know.

  134. @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    I don't think any of it was mean spirited, but I can recall episodes poking mild fun at his Indian neighbour.... And the episode where Elaine couldn't figure out if the the guy she was dating was black or not... And of course the sleazy lawyer 'Jackie Chiles'

    It's kind of strange that this fairly mild stuff may well be to risqué for contemporary audiences to handle.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @silviosilver, @poolside

    I wonder if Seinfeld would even be able to get away with some of the stuff in that show today.

    The other day I was watching a documentary on television shows in the ’70s that included several clips from “All in the Family” and “The Jeffersons.”

    My 20-something kids were shocked that television shows from the era actually made jokes about blacks and whites not exactly living in harmony. In one of the clips, the character Tom Willis from “The Jeffersons” actually uses the “N” word after George Jefferson calls him a honky; I thought my kids were going to fall out of their chairs.

  135. @V Vega
    Mahr is a pundit. He hasn't been a comedian in years. All the major "comedians" are pundits or whore madams for their guests. A generation has grown up with Jon Stewart, Colbert, etc, actively and aggressively engaged in punditry under the guise of being comedians.

    Even George Carlin wasn't doing comedy in his last decade. It was always a glorified TED talk. He might as well have been a professor at a state college.

    Jeff Ross' comedy is for, and by, a select few: mean, bitter, out of work comedians. He just writes down what he hears the comics muttering while waiting to go on at the Comedy Store Belly Room, and uses it for his next "comedy" roast. I guess it's funny for people who have never been personally confronted during an introductory EST meeting.

    Why shouldn't it spill out into comedy clubs, full of mostly young people trained by these semi-comedic terrified middle-aged self-hating wastoids?

    Bill Mahr, you can't take repeated, massive dumps in your pants, and then complain that the proverbial room stinks. If you want the stink to dissipate, you really need to... leave the room.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DWright

    Spot on about Carlin, whatever you can say about the last part of his career, it wasn’t comedy.

    Many lesser so called comics are just angry ranters with no trace of humor. Joe Rogan comes to mind.

  136. @Rob McX
    @SPMoore8

    Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone.

    I don't know how you can say that. They both made up fake crimes that could have ended up ruining someone's life if things had worked out a little differently. Fake crime reports would do a lot more damage were it not for the fact that those who make them are usually too stupid and/or unbalanced to concoct a credibly coherent story.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Well, the fact is, neither Jackie nor Rachel ever actually accused a specific person. Looked at from outside, neither of them were doing anything else than trying to get people to pay attention — or perhaps, pay homage — to them. The proper reaction in both cases would have been to ignore them, which is apparently what happened, and to get them to seek counseling of some kind.

    What happened in both cases is that the media got hold of the stories and went to town: and that’s their job. In Jackie’s case, however, at least, in retrospect she never should have been written up by Rolling Stone the way she was.

    I don’t know. I’m seeing a lot of troubled women out there and I feel sorry about that. But you are right, they have potential to do grave harm. Don’t we have any grownups in our society anymore?

  137. @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    She makes a nice looking black lady.
     
    Perhaps another factor in her trans-racial aspirations? As a White woman, she was medium pretty.As a "Blackish" woman, though, she's very pretty indeed, the kind of barely-Black, could easily pass the paper bag test gal who is the envy of the great mass of Black chicks.

    The female desire to be hotter explains so many things...

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Malcolm X-Lax

    As a White woman, she was medium pretty. As a “Blackish” woman, though, she’s very pretty indeed

    Also, lower BMI than I see on a lot of the local African American women.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    High BMI is a feature for blacks, not a bug. "Large and in charge" means promotion through intimidation, never being challenged by potential victimhood competitors.

  138. @Hippopotamusdrome
    He's hilariously un-pc:

    Bill Maher's Dr. Seuss parody for migrant kids (and New Rule!)

    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.
    ...
    You thought our arms would be open,
    Our streets would be gleaming,
    Instead of that,
    You got teabaggers screaming.
    ...
    The teabaggers say,
    "It's not that we're monsters
    Or that we don't care.
    It's just that God put us here,
    And God put you there."
    ...
    So cut us some slack,
    Turn that frown upside-down,
    It's not our fault
    You're a little too brown.
    ...
    So be careful out there,
    Or immigration will catch you.
    And remember to never believe
    What you read on a statue.
     
    Tube: Bill Maher Reads Oh, the Places You'll Go ! ... and Get Kicked Out Of

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous

    You got teabaggers screaming.

    How is this not PC? He is criticizing the conservativers for not welcoming the illegals.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @MarkinLA

    SNL: Sarcasm 101

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @MarkinLA

  139. @Cagey Beast
    OT:
    There seems to be a lot of mainstream news stories online about how the case of trans-racialism in Spokane is in no way comparable to the Bruce Jenner case of trans-genderism. I skim read a few and they seem to be unable to explain why.

    I was thinking too that former Toronto mayor Rob Ford might be another case of trans-racialism. One of the videos showed him jabbering in Jamaican patois in an all night sandwich shop. World Star Hip Hip embraced him as one of their own.

    Replies: @rob

    In defense of Caitlyn!, she never faked any hate crimes. Come to think of it, I really like the exclamation point there.

  140. I’ll bet when the lights go down and the curtains are drawn that black husband of hers tells her to drop the black act.

  141. @Hippopotamusdrome
    He's hilariously un-pc:

    Bill Maher's Dr. Seuss parody for migrant kids (and New Rule!)

    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.
    ...
    You thought our arms would be open,
    Our streets would be gleaming,
    Instead of that,
    You got teabaggers screaming.
    ...
    The teabaggers say,
    "It's not that we're monsters
    Or that we don't care.
    It's just that God put us here,
    And God put you there."
    ...
    So cut us some slack,
    Turn that frown upside-down,
    It's not our fault
    You're a little too brown.
    ...
    So be careful out there,
    Or immigration will catch you.
    And remember to never believe
    What you read on a statue.
     
    Tube: Bill Maher Reads Oh, the Places You'll Go ! ... and Get Kicked Out Of

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous

    This was the Bill Maher I was trying to explain to Jefferson. Sure, Maher gets a C+ on islam but in the places where he’s bad (black America, immigration), he’s just about the worst.

  142. @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    She makes a nice looking black lady.
     
    Perhaps another factor in her trans-racial aspirations? As a White woman, she was medium pretty.As a "Blackish" woman, though, she's very pretty indeed, the kind of barely-Black, could easily pass the paper bag test gal who is the envy of the great mass of Black chicks.

    The female desire to be hotter explains so many things...

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Malcolm X-Lax

    There also has to be an inverse correlation between skin color and sense of aggrievement. The lighter the skin, the angrier the sista. Maybe greater militancy is the tribute the light-skinned black women pay to their darker sistas, because they know they are preferred by the brothas. Not an original observation, I know.

  143. @Hippopotamusdrome
    He's hilariously un-pc:

    Bill Maher's Dr. Seuss parody for migrant kids (and New Rule!)

    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.
    ...
    You thought our arms would be open,
    Our streets would be gleaming,
    Instead of that,
    You got teabaggers screaming.
    ...
    The teabaggers say,
    "It's not that we're monsters
    Or that we don't care.
    It's just that God put us here,
    And God put you there."
    ...
    So cut us some slack,
    Turn that frown upside-down,
    It's not our fault
    You're a little too brown.
    ...
    So be careful out there,
    Or immigration will catch you.
    And remember to never believe
    What you read on a statue.
     
    Tube: Bill Maher Reads Oh, the Places You'll Go ! ... and Get Kicked Out Of

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Anonymous

    Howdy there, partner,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Brownsville!
    Now please go away.

    Shalom, African migrant,
    Today is your day.
    You made it to Israel
    Now please go away…

    Someone with more talent can improve and continue it, but you get the gist.

  144. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know. I’m seeing a lot of troubled women out there and I feel sorry about that. But you are right, they have potential to do grave harm. Don’t we have any grownups in our society anymore?

    Really? A lot?

    I see a tiny fraction with gigantic media coverage. Really these people deserve no attention.

    OTOH, Wall Street and the corrupt elite deserve a much more critical eye. But they own the media, so we get this media circus, and bread.

  145. WhatEvvs [AKA "Prada Yada Yada"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @WhatEvvs

    She makes a nice looking black lady.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @syonredux, @WhatEvvs

    I was thinking the same thing. She makes a better looking black lady than white lady, because the tan (tanning bed and makeup) covers up the freckles, and her nose as an African-American looks Caucasian, but when she was white it was too wide. And then all that kewl hair….

  146. That is extremely false because he is not politically correct 100 percent of the time. His views on Islam are definitely not popular with his Left Wing Manhattan and Malibu buddies.

    Just because Bill Maher is a dirty Joo in the eyes of many iSteve readers like yourself, it does not mean he is wrong 100 percent of the time. If Bill Maher was a Goy, he would have gotten more credit around here for occasionally having a view would offend Liberals.

    LOL. That’s some convenient shit right there.

    And I’d call a 100% white Bill Maher a shabbos goy version of “anti-PC.”

    Funny how the entertainment media in general follow the same “anti-PC” trend. Don’t hold your breath waiting for a black version of The Dictator.

    If the Goy Chris Matthews was going on a tirade on Islam, I am pretty sure a lot of iSteve readers here would be praising him and saying he is a closet race realist.

    Your powers of imagining are impressive.

    Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    Yes, selectively “right-wing” “divergences” like rabidly supporting Israel are so “anti-PC.”

    I loathe Bill Maher and would not even have guessed he is jewish.

    Then your Jewdar is broken.

    He’s hilariously un-pc: [poem lampooning the right snipped]

    I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not (one has to be careful, given the stupid emerging on the topic in the comments), but that text does not appear to be un-PC, at all. Quite the opposite.

    There’s a lot more about Rachel on the web and I am starting to feel bad about it.

    Saw a headline at Drudge a few minutes ago; sez she sued her college for discriminating against her for being white. Total head case/grifter.

    Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone.

    I don’t know how you can say that.

    Politically half-baked. Or maybe just soft-headed, or didn’t think the matter through.

    Well, the fact is, neither Jackie nor Rachel ever actually accused a specific person.

    Yep, soft-headed. Making false accusations against white men in general, and adding to the climate of witch-hunting, is hunkey-dorey.

  147. @Massimo Heitor
    You can't kill comedy. Liberals killed some comedy and are a gold mine for other comedy. Many Sailer headlines have me literally laughing out loud. People say that the right doesn't have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong. The right has plenty of jokes and humor. Stewart was always more partisan commentary than a true punch line seeking comic.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Economic Sophisms, @SFG, @silviosilver, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “People say that the right doesn’t have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong.”

    What channel is it on?

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    It wouldn't be allowed on TV. The point was that it exists online. For example, here.

  148. WhatEvvs [AKA "Prada Yada Yada"] says:
    @SPMoore8
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, she's a good looking gal, and because I am old school I regret that she doesn't have a husband and a baby to look after.

    There's a lot more about Rachel on the web and I am starting to feel bad about it. But it should be said that it looks like this whole thing got started because of these harassment letters that she claimed she was receiving: that's what put her in the spotlight. And the letters appear to be fake. In one of them, there was a xerox picture of a man holding a shotgun; I don't know who the guy was, but he looked an awful lot like her dad. I'm at the point where I don't really want to know any more about her private life, I am starting to feel sorry for her, the same as with Jackie.

    The only reason I don't feel completely sorry for Emma yet is because that she is still doing stuff that is damaging to a specific other person. Whereas, regardless of how goofy they have acted, neither Jackie nor Rachel have actually harmed anyone. (Not denying the harm they may have caused different communities.)

    Part of what's going on here is that the media is enabling these women to act the way they are acting (Hi, Sabrina!). Ultimately, it's cruel, but it was also cruel that their families, friends, and associates allowed them to carry on this way and get this far. Meanwhile, Caitlyn is continuing her exhibitionism.

    This is becoming a pattern. Every month or so we get some woman who captures everyone's attention for being victimized in some way. And then she is disgraced. It's funny as hell but it's also ....... unhealthy and also sad. Something is wrong here.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @WhatEvvs

    I don’t feel bad for her. She’s a complete exhibitionist, making the rounds of morning talk shows, etc. She’s completely brazen and unrepentent.

    And she gets crazier by the nanosecond. Smoking Gun has something about her suing Howard U as a white woman, claiming they discriminated against her…as a white person.

    Also, she is a witness against her bio-bro in a sexual assault case. I have zero clue as to whether there is anything to this case, whether it’s genuine or trumped up, but she is clearly part of a very screwed up family drama.

    [Totally O/T, but may be relevant to a future Sailer post: The parents are evangelical Christians who are really into “invite the world.” There is a strain of Evangelical Christianity that is really masochistic. It’s powered by outwardly submissive but essentially control freaky, domineering women who are ga-ga about adopting non-white orphans. They are actively creating what they think is a post-racial America, which they envision will be a rainbow coalition of rapture believers, just like them. They are bonkers, and this is what Rachel grew up in.]

  149. @Anon
    @WhatEvvs

    "We don’t need comedians. We have Rachel Dolezal."

    We live in a strange world where everything turns into a joke but cannot be joked about.

    Sort of like a democratic North Korea in a way.

    It's like no one can laugh at Kim Jong Un but the guy is a total joke.

    Replies: @Justpassingby

    We live in a strange world where everything turns into a joke but cannot be joked about.
    Sort of like a democratic North Korea in a way.
    It’s like no one can laugh at Kim Jong Un but the guy is a total joke.

    You make an interesting point: North Korea has but one Kim Jong Un; the USA has, what, 200,000,000 notable unjokeables?

  150. @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "I tried to find out what immigrant groups they are referring to. I found this story that happened a day after the above in which the immigrants engaged in an armed home robbery in Fargo. This story has photos of the people of interest. What fool decided to relocate tropical Africans to North Dakota?

    Fargo? Man, you know we are hitting rock bottom when the multicult has made its way to Fargo.

    PS. The graphic running along the bottom of the newscast reads “String of violence running through the area” above which are the photos of the people of interest. If PC is a war against noticing, then this is very anti-PC."

    So Fargo has a major Negro crime problem even though Negroes make up only 2 percent of Fargo's population. Are these Section 8 Negroes imported from Midwestern cities like Chicago and Milwaukee?

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “So Fargo has a major Negro crime problem even though Negroes make up only 2 percent of Fargo’s population. Are these Section 8 Negroes imported from Midwestern cities like Chicago and Milwaukee?”

    If the situation in Fargo is anything like here in Sioux Falls, they’re from Somalia for the most part, as well a whole host of other sub-Saharan countries ie., the Congo, Kenya, etc. They make up about two percent of the local population, and commit 90 percent of the armed robberies.

  151. @Jefferson
    @Chief Seattle

    "Apparently Jew hatred involves always 100 percent disagreeing with anything that ever comes out of a Jew’s mouth, even if a Jew has a political opinion that leans more to the right than to the left.

    It’s certainly a good bet. You might not get mugged walking through a bad neighborhood at midnight, and you might not get lied to by a propaganda spouting media elite. But why risk it?"

    Plenty of Liberal Goys in America also go around saying that Whites are just as violent if not more violent than African Americans.

    Replies: @AnAnon

    “Plenty of Liberal Goys in America also go around saying that Whites are just as violent if not more violent than African Americans.” – but they don’t go around acting like it or we’d have more fun on the internets.

  152. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Massimo Heitor

    "People say that the right doesn’t have a version of the Jon Stewart Daily Show, and they are so wrong."

    What channel is it on?

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    It wouldn’t be allowed on TV. The point was that it exists online. For example, here.

  153. I watched Maher more when younger but always saw him as convertible on some cultural issues. He’s liberal, sure, but never has seemed to be a huge fan of feminism and certainly not of Islam. Like Seinfeld, he’s a (half) Jew who sees want the modern left wants to do to the first amendment, eradicate it. Jews love the first amendment.

    If we really want to beat back the cultural leftists, we’ll need some powerful allies. People like Maher and Seinfeld, as well as politically incorrect blacks, may have to be on that list.

    One thing Maher is is unafraid. He likes to poke the hornets nest.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Marty T

    "Jews love the first amendment."

    Now that was funny.

    , @dcite
    @Marty T

    Seinfeld is fully Jewish. Mother from Syrian Jewish ancestry, father Ashkenazi.

  154. @Harry Baldwin
    @syonredux

    As a White woman, she was medium pretty. As a “Blackish” woman, though, she’s very pretty indeed

    Also, lower BMI than I see on a lot of the local African American women.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    High BMI is a feature for blacks, not a bug. “Large and in charge” means promotion through intimidation, never being challenged by potential victimhood competitors.

  155. @MarkinLA
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    You got teabaggers screaming.

    How is this not PC? He is criticizing the conservativers for not welcoming the illegals.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    great Norm MacDonald story about this. it was after he was fired from Weekend Update, and he was famous for refusing to do sketches (unless he wrote them.) So anyways Matthew Perry's agent insists Norm appear, telling him it would be hilarious and a great example of Perry's invention, "Chandler-speak" (or something like that.) Norm asks the agent what he means, and the agent explains. Norm replies "do you mean sarcasm?" The egomaniacal Perry had convinced himself he invented sarcasm.

    also, when a young writer for SNL called Perry a genius, Norm asked if Perry was a mathematician or astrophysicist.

    , @MarkinLA
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Sorry normally I am smart enough to catch it.

    Clicked the wrong ling and attached to myself below.

  156. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @MarkinLA

    SNL: Sarcasm 101

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @MarkinLA

    great Norm MacDonald story about this. it was after he was fired from Weekend Update, and he was famous for refusing to do sketches (unless he wrote them.) So anyways Matthew Perry’s agent insists Norm appear, telling him it would be hilarious and a great example of Perry’s invention, “Chandler-speak” (or something like that.) Norm asks the agent what he means, and the agent explains. Norm replies “do you mean sarcasm?” The egomaniacal Perry had convinced himself he invented sarcasm.

    also, when a young writer for SNL called Perry a genius, Norm asked if Perry was a mathematician or astrophysicist.

  157. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @MarkinLA

    SNL: Sarcasm 101

    Replies: @Aeronerauk, @MarkinLA

    Sorry normally I am smart enough to catch it.

    Clicked the wrong ling and attached to myself below.

  158. @Svigor
    Lots of people say that removing a white man's image from US currency, and replacing it with that of Harriet Tubman, is a bad idea. Personally, I think replacing Abe Lincoln with Harriet Tubman on the $5 bill is a wonderful idea. I'm all for it. And if you're wondering if I'm being sarcastic, the answer is no.

    I would, however, oppose replacing anyone but Lincoln. I am absolutely opposed to replacing Andrew Jackson's image with Tubman's. But replacing Lincoln's image with Tubman's, I'm all for that.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Chess Fan

    I would replace Jackson, specifically, and no one else. My reasoning is that Jackson was a good man, unlike anyone else on our currency, and thus deserves not to have to be associated with such a vile, degenerate country as modern day America.

  159. Jews love the first amendment.

    Jews love working to get “hate speech” criminalized (Canada, Australia, Europe), too.

    I would replace Jackson, specifically, and no one else. My reasoning is that Jackson was a good man, unlike anyone else on our currency, and thus deserves not to have to be associated with such a vile, degenerate country as modern day America.

    Nah. If we’re going to do that, we should replace ’em all with Civil Rights luminaries. It’s always a better idea to make the message very clear. I think someone actually suggested this here, some months back; let those be the faces on our currency as it, and our country, go into steep decline.

  160. Squaring the circle: they’re disputatious and verbose, but they like controlling the range of acceptable opinion, too. All of that is in line with a tendency toward aggression.

  161. @Jefferson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "It’s hard to imagine some of those episodes being made now. Like the one where Jerry dated the Native American girl and was walking on eggshells to avoid offending her."

    Is she a real Native American or an Elizabeth Warren Native American? Where I live the only people that resemble the real Native Americans in phenotype are the Spanish speaking Brown hordes from south of the border.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Indeed. Seinfeld polked fun at foreigners, blacks, indians, orientals, Puerto Ricans, WASPs, Christians, Jews, gays, the handicapped, charities, the AIDS-walk mania, doctors, etc. Mild as it was, it’s hard to imagine a lot of that being done today.

  162. @Marty T
    I watched Maher more when younger but always saw him as convertible on some cultural issues. He's liberal, sure, but never has seemed to be a huge fan of feminism and certainly not of Islam. Like Seinfeld, he's a (half) Jew who sees want the modern left wants to do to the first amendment, eradicate it. Jews love the first amendment.

    If we really want to beat back the cultural leftists, we'll need some powerful allies. People like Maher and Seinfeld, as well as politically incorrect blacks, may have to be on that list.

    One thing Maher is is unafraid. He likes to poke the hornets nest.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @dcite

    “Jews love the first amendment.”

    Now that was funny.

  163. You want comedy?

  164. There’s always Ramzer

  165. @Marty T
    I watched Maher more when younger but always saw him as convertible on some cultural issues. He's liberal, sure, but never has seemed to be a huge fan of feminism and certainly not of Islam. Like Seinfeld, he's a (half) Jew who sees want the modern left wants to do to the first amendment, eradicate it. Jews love the first amendment.

    If we really want to beat back the cultural leftists, we'll need some powerful allies. People like Maher and Seinfeld, as well as politically incorrect blacks, may have to be on that list.

    One thing Maher is is unafraid. He likes to poke the hornets nest.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @dcite

    Seinfeld is fully Jewish. Mother from Syrian Jewish ancestry, father Ashkenazi.

  166. I liked Seinfeld’s version of the Statue of Liberty label concerning immigrants (paraphrasing): “Send us the worst you got. We want ’em.”

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