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The European Union is lucky that its eastern flank is defended by ex-Communist nation-states like Poland and Hungary who don’t find internationalist rhetoric inspiring anymore. Ironically, of course, the EU is trying to punish its protectors.

Fortunately, for the EU, its dominant member, Germany, borders only a single only non-EU country: Switzerland. So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.

 
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  1. At the same time Brussels if fighting Polish government for not respecting “rule of law” by doing what “respectable” countries were doing before. I say cart them off to German border, screw EU.

  2. If you steal my cow, it is bad. If I steal your cow, it is good.

    Simple, all else is just noise.

  3. But the smart posters assure us Germany is controlled/pozzed by the USA and would never, ever behave this way if they were freeeee…

    The hell they wouldn’t.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Bragadocious

    You're saying that based on what?

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    , @HammerJack
    @Bragadocious

    We also have people here insisting that there's no invasion anywhere, and that the migrants are all just harmless "women and toddlers."


    https://i.ibb.co/7GFx9Wg/Screenshot-20211108-215757-RT-News.jpg

    , @Reactive Reaction
    @Bragadocious

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    She is now the anti-nationalist superpower. Morgen die ganze Welt indeed.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  4. So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.

    Germany has fewer non-European immigrants than France, the UK, and many other Western Euro countries.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    @Anonymous

    Because of the lack of a colonial empire. More refugees though.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Not anymore it doesn't.

    Danke Frau Merkel.

    , @Dumbo
    @Anonymous

    Perhaps Germany doesn't want so many migrants in their own country, but they sure as hell like pushing them to others. Such as Poland, or Italy.

    Many of the NGOs operating in the Libyan seas "rescuing" Africans and bringing them to Lampedusa are German.

  5. Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @J.Ross


    Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

     

    The Belarus/Poland border spat was going on before that spat began.

    Speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to worship at the altar of "judicial independence" and that men and women in black robes could do no wrong? If the Polish Supreme Court says Polish laws take precedence over EU laws then it must be so, and who are the mere mortals who run the EU to contest that?

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    If the EU decides to punish Poland, or even kick them out of the EU (which they'd never do, since Poland would probably forge a trade pact with Britain), Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Eric Novak

  6. OT Steve do you believe California governor Gavin Newsom to now be in perfect health and ready for a photo-op?

  7. These Visegrád countries drive the Globohomo crowd crazy. It probably also has something to do with their fanatical hostility to Brexit. The departure of Britain gives the Eastern countries more comparative weight in the EU, and this would increase drastically if another Western European country such as France were to bail out.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Rob McX

    One could set up a "corridor" to link Belarus to Germany.

    Although it would not pass near Danzig because Poland has moved east somehow and is now on the territory of ex-Prussia.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland

    https://i.postimg.cc/0jhV14zv/Poland-topo.jpg

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia

    https://i.postimg.cc/mD2XYMvv/Ac-prussiamap3.png

    , @Romanian
    @Rob McX

    In fact, Brexit was a disaster for Eastern Europe, because the Brits, for all their faults, were a useful counterweight against the integrationist crowds. Without them, the only thing stopping complete Franco-German domination of the EU is their own squabbling. Make no mistake, the Europe of Nations was dealt a grievous blow by Brexit. The European Green New Deal is the first extremely statist move to emerge from that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Reactive Reaction
    @Rob McX

    Visegrad 4 + Austrian Ukraine + Austria herself + Croatia = The Empire Strikes Back

  8. Spain and France are the soft underbelly of the EU. Italy has shown some backbone, though how long that could last is questionable.

    But let’s be honest. If you need other countries to defend your border because you melt if someone calls you racist, it’s pretty much over – and, frankly, should be over.

    Of course, the real question is what defines citizenship. blood or a piece of paper?

    What say you Steve?

    (Btw, I’m not trying to be a jerk. It’s the question of our time, and you avoid it, which, frankly, is odd.)

    • Agree: Old Prude
  9. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Klaus Martin Schwab (German pronunciation: [klaʊs ˈmaʁtiːn ʃvaːp]; born 30 March 1938) is a German engineer and economist best known as the founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum.

    wouldn’t it be funny that just as the “everybody is a nazi” rhetoric reaches a crescendo…some very old SS guy appears and says, “oops we did it again.”

  10. After it was apparent that a number of people were hurt at the concert, rapper Travis Scott started to do bizarre ritualistic chanting. Listen to the chanting. It is very frightening.

    https://twitter.com/RobotEmbryo/status/1457223137033003009

    There’s something sinister about what happened at that concert. 8 died and 300 were injured. Read the article below.

    Someone was running around with a needle, injecting people with an unknown fluid. That may have been a factor in the chaos and deaths.

    The show was full of Satanic and Occult imagery.

    Do Satanists run Hollywood?

    Was Stanley Kubrick’s film “Eyes Wide Shut” a realistic glimpse into the Occultism of our debauched elites?

    Why is there so much Occultism at the top? Marina Abramovich (“Spirit Cooking”). The Podestas. Jeffrey Epstein’s island. The imagery in Ghislaine Maxwell’s home. The Rothschilds. At some point, you begin to wonder…

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Why is there so much Occultism at the top?
     
    Simple. It’s kind of boring at the top. And a lot of the people at the top are spoiled mediocre thinkers. Fertile ground for anything that will provide a cheap thrill.
  11. So who defended EU’s eastern flank before the current rush at the Polish border? Could it have been…Belarus? Did they get any gratitude or acknowledgment for this? “Belarus-sponsored” indeed.

    • Replies: @HA
    @inertial

    "So who defended EU’s eastern flank before the current rush at the Polish border? Could it have been…Belarus? Did they get any gratitude or acknowledgment for this?"

    It depends on what you mean by "eastern". Croatian border guards were getting a media black eye earlier for doing the same things the Poles will probably start doing now (both reverting back to their historic roles as Europe's pit bulls). Given said black eye, that's not exactly gratitude either.

    And yes, this is Belarus sponsored.


    The price of such a “trip” [from the Middle East to Belarus] is at least several thousand dollars, a large part of which ends up in the pockets of the Belarusian secret services. The regime, therefore, kills two birds with one stone: It destabilizes EU borders and at the same time earns money by smuggling people desperately trying to get to Europe...
     
    I don't recall Croatian travel agencies "facilitating" Syrians and Iraqis looking to "vacation" there, even though that would make a far more believable story than people hankering to go see Belarus in November.
  12. @J.Ross
    Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

    The Belarus/Poland border spat was going on before that spat began.

    Speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to worship at the altar of “judicial independence” and that men and women in black robes could do no wrong? If the Polish Supreme Court says Polish laws take precedence over EU laws then it must be so, and who are the mere mortals who run the EU to contest that?

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.

    If the EU decides to punish Poland, or even kick them out of the EU (which they’d never do, since Poland would probably forge a trade pact with Britain), Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Wilkey


    Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.
     
    Yes, precisely. And it wouldn't be hard to do because these "migrants" have no intention whatsoever of staying in Poland anyway. There is a hardness to the Poles and other Eastern Europeans that is completely lacking in the German/Netherlands/Belgium/Sweden/Spain/UK. Besides, if they did stay in Poland I'm sure that the Poles would make them work for whatever benefits they receive, and the Poles would be vigilant about protecting their women. So, what's the point of a Muslim invading the Kaffir lands if he can't plunder, live off the Jizya and keep a harem. May as well stay home if that's the deal, or move on to the easier lands.
    , @Eric Novak
    @Wilkey

    Germany has several trillion in industrial and infrastructure capital invested in Poland. It ain’t goin’ nowhere, as the average Polish forklift driver at a BMW engine facility would say. The EU can twist Poland’s arm about judicial independence, but Poland does hold all the cards.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Anonymous

  13. @Anonymous

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    Germany has fewer non-European immigrants than France, the UK, and many other Western Euro countries.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Anonymous, @Dumbo

    Because of the lack of a colonial empire. More refugees though.

  14. In fairness, having Poland in the EU and Schengen area is also the cause (Itself a result of the neocons wanting the EU to expand to include the post-Soviet states since the existing EU states were insufficiently anti-Russian) of this since there is total freedom of movement between Poland and the rest of the Schengen zone, no more border patrols or checkpoints into Germany.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457692200712744962

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457755285670481923

    Once again the neocons make Europe pay for their aggressions against the designated enemy. This move won’t work on Belarus’ part because the neocons quite like streams of Muslims going in Europe and the Poles on the front line are quite on board with anti-Russian provocations. (Afterall, any that do get into Poland will go on to Germany anyway. In a way Poland could play Belarus’ game and start letting them through to get something from Germany.)

    It’s actually quite the transformation, due to a lack of any colonies by the time of the post-colonial era, Germany had no serious immigration of any kind until the late 70s. Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today, even into the early 2000s Germany was so monolithically German (Of course, ‘German’ encompasses lots of regional variation from Germanisation of adjacent populations over recent centuries) and then the Balkan asylum wave hit and the start of modern mass ethnic asylum seeking with set scripts and lines then the next wave of Turks hit and now there’s lots more ‘Southerners’ of many varieties.

    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic disasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting. It also begets more immigration through getting businesses dependant on cheap labour. Even if the original source of cheap labour isn’t so plentiful anymore, the businesses will then try to find new ways to suppress wages by getting in contact with say Brazilian recruiters etc. It terraforms the labour market to become based around cheap wages, to produce housing and employment systems for immigrants to be able to exist in.

    It also does it psychologically by making the destination location part of the mental territory of the source country as we can see with regards to say Turkey and Germany, two countries with almost no history in common let alone culturally but which most young Turks would see as a place they rightfully and normally go to, it is mentally part of their ‘plunderspace’. They consider it a place they have claim and right to in a way they don’t for other countries.

    Finally it displaces the natives so much from their own rightful social space that they kind of get cowed and give up being able to articulate a sense of ownership of their own land.

    • Thanks: Beavertales
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Altai


    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic diasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting.
     
    There was a blogger who had a very interesting conclusion from this line of reasoning. The less compatible the new aliens are with their host, the more they immigrate. If two peoples are compatible, his example was England and Australia, Australian immigrants might be friends with another ex-pat or two, but most of their social connections are to British people. When one gets married, it’s probably to a British person. Their kids? “I’m British, but my dad’s Australian.” Pakistanis, though, are not compatible. They have nothing in common with the English people they exploit. All of their social connections are to other Pakistanis. They have the most in common with They form a ghetto. Sometimes a ghetto dispersed spatially, but a ghetto. For some aliens, this might be a prosperous, low-crime, attractive ghetto. The Pakistani is much more willing to provide a place for another Paki invader than an Australian is for a co-national. The Pakistanis kids? Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto. When they reach late adolescence or even early adulthood, they become the boy-bait for the poor British girls their families exploit. When they age out of that, they import a bride from Pakistan.

    I wish I remembered the blogger who said that. I bookmarked his site, though it had been inactive for years. I think Spandrell quoted it somewhere? I give that guess like a 5% chance of accuracy.

    When you couple compatibility differences with creating and absorbing value differences, it seems obvious that Pakis would form a self-licking ice cream cone of immigration, but not Australians.

    Probably immigrants fit into a sliding scale of compatibility

    1) one of us, but has an accent: Anglosphere whites. So South African whites, but not blacks
    2) one of us, but different native language. A French ex-pat here might marry a French woman and raise his kids multiculturally.
    3) Different, but the kids raised here more or less fit in. Koreans. Only the first generation is a risk of importing more
    4) incompatible, different language, different race (incl. non-white Caucasoids) or alien religion, compatible IQ, say average 90 - 110. Bosniaks. Reasonably smart, do not take Islam seriously
    5) incompatible with the social role here. Hispanics. They are what Muslims would be if we did not hate each other. High TFR in homeland means they have lots of chain migration risk
    6) Very incompatible. Hostile alien civilization. Too low IQ to enter the middle class. Alien culture is a draw. Culture has a high TFR, so they have siblings and cousins to import. Do not (in many cases cannot) intermarry. Arranged marriage and patriarchy mean daughters bring over the cousins they marry. Indians go here. The caste system and exploitation.
    7) No plusses, only minuses. Arabs are the worst. Any dumb, clannish folk. Maybe smart and clannish is the worst. Not sure if Nigerians go here or 6. Most Africans go here, especially Muslim ones.

    First, given the horrible aliens, we have now, we need either zero immigration plus inducements to leave or a national quota system. I think a country’s TFR should be considered very important. Nothing says incompatibility like 8 children per woman and polygamy. The functionality of their co-ethnics already here matters. African Americans do poorly, would do even worse without the thumb on the scale that helps them, so no Africans. Arabs here do badly and are the most boomer, so to speak, ethnicity. They complain of “islamophobia.” We are doing their relatives a favor keeping them out. Perhaps the ones who are here would like to take this generous severance offer and move home, where there is no Islamophobia. Etc

    No more Hispanics of any sort. The illegals have permanently degraded the country’s current and future human capital. They didn’t cone consensually. Quota: zero (0)

    I realize that the total failure of Trump, who could not have been worse had he been controlled opposition, means the country cannot be saved. Things might turn out ok if we figure out a smart drug or at least gene therapy, or we have a facially race-blind, successful eugenics policy. But even if we did get a eugenics law with teeth, the country is far too degraded, the political and pro-man classes especially, that it would be all “145 IQ: 5 points. African American: 500 points” or would be so cheated at that it did not matter. Hispanics, for very good reasons, have decided our laws do not apply to them.

    I realize that if we cannot get a politician elected, we have no hope of improvement. Maybe we could at least get “no discrimination or demonization of whites or any other population” law out of the anti-CRT-inspired education that won at least one election?

    The one good thing about Hispanics? Their political class wants to tax capital. That, and when push comes to shove, they came for a white-run country, not one run either by or for blacks.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Clyde

    , @Peter Lund
    @Altai

    > Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today

    I object to that.

    The official number of Turks has been around 4 million for two decades or so -- which of course means that the real number must be higher. Almost all of them were in West Germany.

    I would not call that number small. At all.

    Replies: @Altai, @Peter Akuleyev

    , @Clyde
    @Altai

    "No go to Poland, we go to Germany" was what a refugee says in one of your videos. The bottom video. This surely calls for a safe exit corridor to Angela Merkel's nation. Germany must immediately send 100 modern busses to the Pole-Belo border, to transport these worthies to their new Deutschland homes. Muslim Lebensraum, for Springtime in Germany! Mel Brooks can make the musical and the movie.

  15. Belarus-Sponsored Immigration Rush

    When did White Russia become Anti-White Russia?

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Reg Cæsar

    As we perhaps recall, the EU has been messing with Belarus for a while now. For instance, there were some tugs of color revolution not so long ago.

  16. @inertial
    So who defended EU's eastern flank before the current rush at the Polish border? Could it have been...Belarus? Did they get any gratitude or acknowledgment for this? "Belarus-sponsored" indeed.

    Replies: @HA

    “So who defended EU’s eastern flank before the current rush at the Polish border? Could it have been…Belarus? Did they get any gratitude or acknowledgment for this?”

    It depends on what you mean by “eastern”. Croatian border guards were getting a media black eye earlier for doing the same things the Poles will probably start doing now (both reverting back to their historic roles as Europe’s pit bulls). Given said black eye, that’s not exactly gratitude either.

    And yes, this is Belarus sponsored.

    The price of such a “trip” [from the Middle East to Belarus] is at least several thousand dollars, a large part of which ends up in the pockets of the Belarusian secret services. The regime, therefore, kills two birds with one stone: It destabilizes EU borders and at the same time earns money by smuggling people desperately trying to get to Europe…

    I don’t recall Croatian travel agencies “facilitating” Syrians and Iraqis looking to “vacation” there, even though that would make a far more believable story than people hankering to go see Belarus in November.

  17. Enlightened YouTubers are making a tremendous effort to educate the Poles and cure them of their racism:

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Harpagornis

    Those kids deserve to be scolded.

  18. @Wilkey
    @J.Ross


    Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

     

    The Belarus/Poland border spat was going on before that spat began.

    Speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to worship at the altar of "judicial independence" and that men and women in black robes could do no wrong? If the Polish Supreme Court says Polish laws take precedence over EU laws then it must be so, and who are the mere mortals who run the EU to contest that?

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    If the EU decides to punish Poland, or even kick them out of the EU (which they'd never do, since Poland would probably forge a trade pact with Britain), Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Eric Novak

    Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.

    Yes, precisely. And it wouldn’t be hard to do because these “migrants” have no intention whatsoever of staying in Poland anyway. There is a hardness to the Poles and other Eastern Europeans that is completely lacking in the German/Netherlands/Belgium/Sweden/Spain/UK. Besides, if they did stay in Poland I’m sure that the Poles would make them work for whatever benefits they receive, and the Poles would be vigilant about protecting their women. So, what’s the point of a Muslim invading the Kaffir lands if he can’t plunder, live off the Jizya and keep a harem. May as well stay home if that’s the deal, or move on to the easier lands.

  19. @Bragadocious
    But the smart posters assure us Germany is controlled/pozzed by the USA and would never, ever behave this way if they were freeeee...

    The hell they wouldn’t.

    Replies: @fnn, @HammerJack, @Reactive Reaction

    You’re saying that based on what?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @fnn

    Based on the the fact that Germany pushed and implemented a Covid lockdown that was FAR more restrictive and brutal than anything in effect in America. Curfews, $30,000 fines for scofflaws--what American jurisdiction did this?

    Even in the dark days of April 2020 I could get in my car and drive 2000 miles in any direction I wanted.

    If Americans controlled Germany, why wouldn't Germany do exactly the same thing America did?

    Nord Stream 2, I could go on, but why bother--it's a semi-religion around here that poor little Germany is just a helpless puppet of Washington.

  20. @Bragadocious
    But the smart posters assure us Germany is controlled/pozzed by the USA and would never, ever behave this way if they were freeeee...

    The hell they wouldn’t.

    Replies: @fnn, @HammerJack, @Reactive Reaction

    We also have people here insisting that there’s no invasion anywhere, and that the migrants are all just harmless “women and toddlers.”

  21. But this is bad news for Belarus, correct? They were counting on being able to send these immigrants over to Westerm Europe, but now because of Poland they are stuck with them. Some of them may end up in Russia. Bad news for those who are counting on Russia to preserve White Christian culture.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    They have no desire to settle in Belarus or Russia and will come home if they can't get to Germany. (Or, more likely, try another route) The only reason they went all the way to Belarus (Often directly by plane) was because the Belarusian government let it be known they weren't enforcing the border with Poland and thus the Schengen Zone.

    If they deign to stay they won't find hospitality from the government wrt their obviously fake asylum bids. What is going to happen? They'll sue them in the European Court of Human Rights? Belarus is already persona non grata, they don't care.

  22. @Altai
    In fairness, having Poland in the EU and Schengen area is also the cause (Itself a result of the neocons wanting the EU to expand to include the post-Soviet states since the existing EU states were insufficiently anti-Russian) of this since there is total freedom of movement between Poland and the rest of the Schengen zone, no more border patrols or checkpoints into Germany.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457692200712744962

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457755285670481923

    https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1457727007706521602

    Once again the neocons make Europe pay for their aggressions against the designated enemy. This move won't work on Belarus' part because the neocons quite like streams of Muslims going in Europe and the Poles on the front line are quite on board with anti-Russian provocations. (Afterall, any that do get into Poland will go on to Germany anyway. In a way Poland could play Belarus' game and start letting them through to get something from Germany.)

    It's actually quite the transformation, due to a lack of any colonies by the time of the post-colonial era, Germany had no serious immigration of any kind until the late 70s. Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today, even into the early 2000s Germany was so monolithically German (Of course, 'German' encompasses lots of regional variation from Germanisation of adjacent populations over recent centuries) and then the Balkan asylum wave hit and the start of modern mass ethnic asylum seeking with set scripts and lines then the next wave of Turks hit and now there's lots more 'Southerners' of many varieties.

    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic disasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting. It also begets more immigration through getting businesses dependant on cheap labour. Even if the original source of cheap labour isn't so plentiful anymore, the businesses will then try to find new ways to suppress wages by getting in contact with say Brazilian recruiters etc. It terraforms the labour market to become based around cheap wages, to produce housing and employment systems for immigrants to be able to exist in.

    It also does it psychologically by making the destination location part of the mental territory of the source country as we can see with regards to say Turkey and Germany, two countries with almost no history in common let alone culturally but which most young Turks would see as a place they rightfully and normally go to, it is mentally part of their 'plunderspace'. They consider it a place they have claim and right to in a way they don't for other countries.

    Finally it displaces the natives so much from their own rightful social space that they kind of get cowed and give up being able to articulate a sense of ownership of their own land.

    Replies: @Rob, @Peter Lund, @Clyde

    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic diasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting.

    There was a blogger who had a very interesting conclusion from this line of reasoning. The less compatible the new aliens are with their host, the more they immigrate. If two peoples are compatible, his example was England and Australia, Australian immigrants might be friends with another ex-pat or two, but most of their social connections are to British people. When one gets married, it’s probably to a British person. Their kids? “I’m British, but my dad’s Australian.” Pakistanis, though, are not compatible. They have nothing in common with the English people they exploit. All of their social connections are to other Pakistanis. They have the most in common with They form a ghetto. Sometimes a ghetto dispersed spatially, but a ghetto. For some aliens, this might be a prosperous, low-crime, attractive ghetto. The Pakistani is much more willing to provide a place for another Paki invader than an Australian is for a co-national. The Pakistanis kids? Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto. When they reach late adolescence or even early adulthood, they become the boy-bait for the poor British girls their families exploit. When they age out of that, they import a bride from Pakistan.

    I wish I remembered the blogger who said that. I bookmarked his site, though it had been inactive for years. I think Spandrell quoted it somewhere? I give that guess like a 5% chance of accuracy.

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    When you couple compatibility differences with creating and absorbing value differences, it seems obvious that Pakis would form a self-licking ice cream cone of immigration, but not Australians.

    Probably immigrants fit into a sliding scale of compatibility

    1) one of us, but has an accent: Anglosphere whites. So South African whites, but not blacks
    2) one of us, but different native language. A French ex-pat here might marry a French woman and raise his kids multiculturally.
    3) Different, but the kids raised here more or less fit in. Koreans. Only the first generation is a risk of importing more
    4) incompatible, different language, different race (incl. non-white Caucasoids) or alien religion, compatible IQ, say average 90 – 110. Bosniaks. Reasonably smart, do not take Islam seriously
    5) incompatible with the social role here. Hispanics. They are what Muslims would be if we did not hate each other. High TFR in homeland means they have lots of chain migration risk
    6) Very incompatible. Hostile alien civilization. Too low IQ to enter the middle class. Alien culture is a draw. Culture has a high TFR, so they have siblings and cousins to import. Do not (in many cases cannot) intermarry. Arranged marriage and patriarchy mean daughters bring over the cousins they marry. Indians go here. The caste system and exploitation.
    7) No plusses, only minuses. Arabs are the worst. Any dumb, clannish folk. Maybe smart and clannish is the worst. Not sure if Nigerians go here or 6. Most Africans go here, especially Muslim ones.

    First, given the horrible aliens, we have now, we need either zero immigration plus inducements to leave or a national quota system. I think a country’s TFR should be considered very important. Nothing says incompatibility like 8 children per woman and polygamy. The functionality of their co-ethnics already here matters. African Americans do poorly, would do even worse without the thumb on the scale that helps them, so no Africans. Arabs here do badly and are the most boomer, so to speak, ethnicity. They complain of “islamophobia.” We are doing their relatives a favor keeping them out. Perhaps the ones who are here would like to take this generous severance offer and move home, where there is no Islamophobia. Etc

    No more Hispanics of any sort. The illegals have permanently degraded the country’s current and future human capital. They didn’t cone consensually. Quota: zero (0)

    I realize that the total failure of Trump, who could not have been worse had he been controlled opposition, means the country cannot be saved. Things might turn out ok if we figure out a smart drug or at least gene therapy, or we have a facially race-blind, successful eugenics policy. But even if we did get a eugenics law with teeth, the country is far too degraded, the political and pro-man classes especially, that it would be all “145 IQ: 5 points. African American: 500 points” or would be so cheated at that it did not matter. Hispanics, for very good reasons, have decided our laws do not apply to them.

    I realize that if we cannot get a politician elected, we have no hope of improvement. Maybe we could at least get “no discrimination or demonization of whites or any other population” law out of the anti-CRT-inspired education that won at least one election?

    The one good thing about Hispanics? Their political class wants to tax capital. That, and when push comes to shove, they came for a white-run country, not one run either by or for blacks.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Rob

    The sex grooming Pakis are usually older, married men.

    Not "boy bait."

    They never age out of that exploitative niche.

    https://twitter.com/Connybub/status/1232517937430441984

    Most of them are small businessmen who entice runaways into prostitution. They offer free stuff, like alcohol, drugs, kebabs, taxi rides, cell phones, money, property to live.

    , @Clyde
    @Rob


    Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto.
     
    You have this reversed. The head man of the Pakistani family in Pakistan pays the head man of the Pakistani family in Great Britain. When the family in Pakistan has one or more family members living in Great Britain, the Paki stan based family members can now be immigrated into UK via family re-unification policies
  23. @fnn
    @Bragadocious

    You're saying that based on what?

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    Based on the the fact that Germany pushed and implemented a Covid lockdown that was FAR more restrictive and brutal than anything in effect in America. Curfews, $30,000 fines for scofflaws–what American jurisdiction did this?

    Even in the dark days of April 2020 I could get in my car and drive 2000 miles in any direction I wanted.

    If Americans controlled Germany, why wouldn’t Germany do exactly the same thing America did?

    Nord Stream 2, I could go on, but why bother–it’s a semi-religion around here that poor little Germany is just a helpless puppet of Washington.

  24. EU to Belarus: Don’t flood our countries with aliens from Africa and the Middle East – that’s our job.

    The EU rulers are probably panicking at what’s happening. Here is a ruler who is openly using immigrants as weapons to destroy countries. That’s not how it’s supposed to work. You destroy countries by letting in immigrants, but you pretend diversity is strength and imprison anyone who disagrees with that.

  25. This is a significantly Belarus-Poland conflict. Lukashenko is trying troll Poland with a “Mariel boatlift”, and not without provocation.

    Poland sponsors the Belarus opposition nationalism (the Belarus nationalist camps are hosted in Poland), as well as e.g. Belsat TV.

    This is not reported in America, but last year, there were street protests against Lukashenko (many protesters imprisoned and bullied), and Poland’s destabilization policy to Lukashenko was evidently frightening him

    Apparently inspired by Castro, Lukashenko is replying that he can turn you into the next Miami Vice, just with less cool clothes and added Syrian militants.

    It’s not like Lukashenko is targeting Germany, whose political class might say “thank your for flying in all these immigrants” from ISIS hotzones.

    As for genuine refugees (as opposed to economic immigrants) if any are involved in this incident, you have to feel sad for them being exploited for such games.

    Although if we believe Belsat, it seems that Poland is stopping.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Dmitry

    EU’s von der Leyen calls for new sanctions on Belarus for migrant influx
    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211108-eu-s-von-der-leyen-calls-for-new-sanctions-on-belarus-for-migrant-influx

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Dmitry

    Belarus is a fake country sitting on Polish ancestral land. That is part of the problem.

  26. @Dmitry
    This is a significantly Belarus-Poland conflict. Lukashenko is trying troll Poland with a "Mariel boatlift", and not without provocation.

    Poland sponsors the Belarus opposition nationalism (the Belarus nationalist camps are hosted in Poland), as well as e.g. Belsat TV.

    This is not reported in America, but last year, there were street protests against Lukashenko (many protesters imprisoned and bullied), and Poland's destabilization policy to Lukashenko was evidently frightening him

    Apparently inspired by Castro, Lukashenko is replying that he can turn you into the next Miami Vice, just with less cool clothes and added Syrian militants.

    It's not like Lukashenko is targeting Germany, whose political class might say "thank your for flying in all these immigrants" from ISIS hotzones.

    As for genuine refugees (as opposed to economic immigrants) if any are involved in this incident, you have to feel sad for them being exploited for such games.

    -


    Although if we believe Belsat, it seems that Poland is stopping.
    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457749299207581703
    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457716575771975680

    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457767772621053953

    Replies: @utu, @Peter Akuleyev

  27. Not having a good opinion on the E.U. in general- most seem to have forgotten that the chief troublemaker here is that old crap of a dictator, Lukashenka, Putin’s buddy.

    Putin fighting for “white interests”?

    Yeah, sure….

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Putin is at best fighting for "slavic interests" but his primary motivation is keeping Russia together.

    Note that being a "buddy" (on and off as Lukash is not above dropping a turd on theRussian lawn from time to time) doesn't mean you have to micromanage every little problem.

    Maybe there will be Anschluss within the next 10 years, then it will be different.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  28. @Rob
    @Altai


    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic diasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting.
     
    There was a blogger who had a very interesting conclusion from this line of reasoning. The less compatible the new aliens are with their host, the more they immigrate. If two peoples are compatible, his example was England and Australia, Australian immigrants might be friends with another ex-pat or two, but most of their social connections are to British people. When one gets married, it’s probably to a British person. Their kids? “I’m British, but my dad’s Australian.” Pakistanis, though, are not compatible. They have nothing in common with the English people they exploit. All of their social connections are to other Pakistanis. They have the most in common with They form a ghetto. Sometimes a ghetto dispersed spatially, but a ghetto. For some aliens, this might be a prosperous, low-crime, attractive ghetto. The Pakistani is much more willing to provide a place for another Paki invader than an Australian is for a co-national. The Pakistanis kids? Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto. When they reach late adolescence or even early adulthood, they become the boy-bait for the poor British girls their families exploit. When they age out of that, they import a bride from Pakistan.

    I wish I remembered the blogger who said that. I bookmarked his site, though it had been inactive for years. I think Spandrell quoted it somewhere? I give that guess like a 5% chance of accuracy.

    When you couple compatibility differences with creating and absorbing value differences, it seems obvious that Pakis would form a self-licking ice cream cone of immigration, but not Australians.

    Probably immigrants fit into a sliding scale of compatibility

    1) one of us, but has an accent: Anglosphere whites. So South African whites, but not blacks
    2) one of us, but different native language. A French ex-pat here might marry a French woman and raise his kids multiculturally.
    3) Different, but the kids raised here more or less fit in. Koreans. Only the first generation is a risk of importing more
    4) incompatible, different language, different race (incl. non-white Caucasoids) or alien religion, compatible IQ, say average 90 - 110. Bosniaks. Reasonably smart, do not take Islam seriously
    5) incompatible with the social role here. Hispanics. They are what Muslims would be if we did not hate each other. High TFR in homeland means they have lots of chain migration risk
    6) Very incompatible. Hostile alien civilization. Too low IQ to enter the middle class. Alien culture is a draw. Culture has a high TFR, so they have siblings and cousins to import. Do not (in many cases cannot) intermarry. Arranged marriage and patriarchy mean daughters bring over the cousins they marry. Indians go here. The caste system and exploitation.
    7) No plusses, only minuses. Arabs are the worst. Any dumb, clannish folk. Maybe smart and clannish is the worst. Not sure if Nigerians go here or 6. Most Africans go here, especially Muslim ones.

    First, given the horrible aliens, we have now, we need either zero immigration plus inducements to leave or a national quota system. I think a country’s TFR should be considered very important. Nothing says incompatibility like 8 children per woman and polygamy. The functionality of their co-ethnics already here matters. African Americans do poorly, would do even worse without the thumb on the scale that helps them, so no Africans. Arabs here do badly and are the most boomer, so to speak, ethnicity. They complain of “islamophobia.” We are doing their relatives a favor keeping them out. Perhaps the ones who are here would like to take this generous severance offer and move home, where there is no Islamophobia. Etc

    No more Hispanics of any sort. The illegals have permanently degraded the country’s current and future human capital. They didn’t cone consensually. Quota: zero (0)

    I realize that the total failure of Trump, who could not have been worse had he been controlled opposition, means the country cannot be saved. Things might turn out ok if we figure out a smart drug or at least gene therapy, or we have a facially race-blind, successful eugenics policy. But even if we did get a eugenics law with teeth, the country is far too degraded, the political and pro-man classes especially, that it would be all “145 IQ: 5 points. African American: 500 points” or would be so cheated at that it did not matter. Hispanics, for very good reasons, have decided our laws do not apply to them.

    I realize that if we cannot get a politician elected, we have no hope of improvement. Maybe we could at least get “no discrimination or demonization of whites or any other population” law out of the anti-CRT-inspired education that won at least one election?

    The one good thing about Hispanics? Their political class wants to tax capital. That, and when push comes to shove, they came for a white-run country, not one run either by or for blacks.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Clyde

    The sex grooming Pakis are usually older, married men.

    Not “boy bait.”

    They never age out of that exploitative niche.

    https://twitter.com/Connybub/status/1232517937430441984

    Most of them are small businessmen who entice runaways into prostitution. They offer free stuff, like alcohol, drugs, kebabs, taxi rides, cell phones, money, property to live.

  29. @Wilkey
    @J.Ross


    Just before this, Brussels was doing everything it could to force Poland out.

     

    The Belarus/Poland border spat was going on before that spat began.

    Speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to worship at the altar of "judicial independence" and that men and women in black robes could do no wrong? If the Polish Supreme Court says Polish laws take precedence over EU laws then it must be so, and who are the mere mortals who run the EU to contest that?

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    If the EU decides to punish Poland, or even kick them out of the EU (which they'd never do, since Poland would probably forge a trade pact with Britain), Poland should simply do what Belarus is doing and weaponize immigration against Germany. Shuttle them across Poland and drop them off at the German border.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Eric Novak

    Germany has several trillion in industrial and infrastructure capital invested in Poland. It ain’t goin’ nowhere, as the average Polish forklift driver at a BMW engine facility would say. The EU can twist Poland’s arm about judicial independence, but Poland does hold all the cards.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Eric Novak

    They already did back in 1920

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)


    The Battle of Warsaw (Polish: Bitwa Warszawska, Russian: Варшавская битва, transcription: Varshavskaya bitva, Ukrainian: Варшавська битва, transcription: Varshavsʹka bytva), also known as the Miracle on the Vistula (Polish: Cud nad Wisłą), was a series of battles that resulted in a decisive Polish victory in 1920 during the Polish–Soviet War. Poland, on the verge of total defeat, repulsed and defeated the Red Army.

    After the Polish Kiev Offensive [aka "preemptive war"], Soviet forces launched a successful counterattack in summer 1920, forcing the Polish army to retreat westward in disarray. The Polish forces seemed on the verge of disintegration and observers predicted a decisive Soviet victory.

    The battle of Warsaw was fought from August 12–25, 1920 as Red Army forces commanded by Mikhail Tukhachevsky approached the Polish capital of Warsaw and the nearby Modlin Fortress. On August 16, Polish forces commanded by Józef Piłsudski counterattacked from the south, disrupting the enemy's offensive, forcing the Russian forces into a disorganized withdrawal eastward and behind the Neman River. Estimated Russian losses were 10,000 killed, 500 missing, 30,000 wounded, and 66,000 taken prisoner, compared with Polish losses of some 4,500 killed, 10,000 missing, and 22,000 wounded.
     

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Anonymous
    @Eric Novak

    We just bought a new Bosch washing machine that was MADE IN POLAND.

    Replies: @Alden

  30. Anonymous[811] • Disclaimer says:

    The EU is fundamentally and existentially anti-white, in exactly the same easy that the American Democrat Party, the NYT, The Economist etc etc are. In short, it is run by shitheads.

    The remarkable thing is that this corrupt, overbearing, totalitarian, incompetent, anti-democratic dictatorship styles itself as the “European” Union, when it’s the world’s biggest enemy of Europeans.

  31. @Anonymous

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    Germany has fewer non-European immigrants than France, the UK, and many other Western Euro countries.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Anonymous, @Dumbo

    Not anymore it doesn’t.

    Danke Frau Merkel.

  32. @Anonymous

    So, the marginal black sheep E.U. states have some ability to restrain the E.U. from disasters caused by Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.
     
    Germany has fewer non-European immigrants than France, the UK, and many other Western Euro countries.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Anonymous, @Dumbo

    Perhaps Germany doesn’t want so many migrants in their own country, but they sure as hell like pushing them to others. Such as Poland, or Italy.

    Many of the NGOs operating in the Libyan seas “rescuing” Africans and bringing them to Lampedusa are German.

  33. @Rob McX
    These Visegrád countries drive the Globohomo crowd crazy. It probably also has something to do with their fanatical hostility to Brexit. The departure of Britain gives the Eastern countries more comparative weight in the EU, and this would increase drastically if another Western European country such as France were to bail out.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Romanian, @Reactive Reaction

    One could set up a “corridor” to link Belarus to Germany.

    Although it would not pass near Danzig because Poland has moved east somehow and is now on the territory of ex-Prussia.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia

    • Thanks: Rob McX
  34. @Eric Novak
    @Wilkey

    Germany has several trillion in industrial and infrastructure capital invested in Poland. It ain’t goin’ nowhere, as the average Polish forklift driver at a BMW engine facility would say. The EU can twist Poland’s arm about judicial independence, but Poland does hold all the cards.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Anonymous

    They already did back in 1920

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)

    The Battle of Warsaw (Polish: Bitwa Warszawska, Russian: Варшавская битва, transcription: Varshavskaya bitva, Ukrainian: Варшавська битва, transcription: Varshavsʹka bytva), also known as the Miracle on the Vistula (Polish: Cud nad Wisłą), was a series of battles that resulted in a decisive Polish victory in 1920 during the Polish–Soviet War. Poland, on the verge of total defeat, repulsed and defeated the Red Army.

    After the Polish Kiev Offensive [aka “preemptive war”], Soviet forces launched a successful counterattack in summer 1920, forcing the Polish army to retreat westward in disarray. The Polish forces seemed on the verge of disintegration and observers predicted a decisive Soviet victory.

    The battle of Warsaw was fought from August 12–25, 1920 as Red Army forces commanded by Mikhail Tukhachevsky approached the Polish capital of Warsaw and the nearby Modlin Fortress. On August 16, Polish forces commanded by Józef Piłsudski counterattacked from the south, disrupting the enemy’s offensive, forcing the Russian forces into a disorganized withdrawal eastward and behind the Neman River. Estimated Russian losses were 10,000 killed, 500 missing, 30,000 wounded, and 66,000 taken prisoner, compared with Polish losses of some 4,500 killed, 10,000 missing, and 22,000 wounded.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @El Dato

    I believe Samuel, the grandfather of David and Ed Miliband, senior UK Labour Party figures, fought in the Battle Of Warsaw - but, despite being of Polish birth and a Warsaw resident, on the Russian Communist losing side.

    He then moved as one does to Belgium, then in 1940 across the Channel to England. Ed Miliband has given the same Samuel to his firstborn son.

    (David has moved on again, to the USA)

  35. @Bardon Kaldian
    Not having a good opinion on the E.U. in general- most seem to have forgotten that the chief troublemaker here is that old crap of a dictator, Lukashenka, Putin's buddy.

    Putin fighting for "white interests"?

    Yeah, sure....

    Replies: @El Dato

    Putin is at best fighting for “slavic interests” but his primary motivation is keeping Russia together.

    Note that being a “buddy” (on and off as Lukash is not above dropping a turd on theRussian lawn from time to time) doesn’t mean you have to micromanage every little problem.

    Maybe there will be Anschluss within the next 10 years, then it will be different.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @El Dato

    There are no "Slavic interests". He is for Russian interests & I'm OK with that.

    Just, judging him by his deeds & one of his ideologues, Dugin- who is a shallow fantasist- his is an Euro-Asian orientation. He just doesn't possess European quasi-racial consciousness. I am not saying Putin should be some kind of racist. But, his willy-nilly Manichean world-view confronts Russia with the "West".

    As if he doesn't understand that Russia is the easternmost part of the West, and not the western part of the East.

    Lukashenka's bullshit behavior is something very serious, and Putin is very well aware of that. His behavior is similar to Erdogan's. They both are, re. migrant crisis- bullshitters. Just, while I don't hold grudge against Erdogan- he's, after all, primarily a Muslim- Putin is, in this respect, something similar to "race traitor".

    Whichever he may have said & done on other occasions, this type of policy is no-no.

  36. anonymous[384] • Disclaimer says:

    Belarus is giving asylum to a US citizen who is one of the pro-Trump January 6 Capitol rioters wanted by the FBI, the refugee from USA looking happy as he appears on Belarus television
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10178457/Capitol-rioter-wanted-FBI-attacking-cops-gets-asylum-Belarus.html

    Evan Neumann, 48, was charged in July on six separate criminal charges for his alleged participation in the January 6 insurrection

    He described what he called ‘political prosecution’ in the United States and described how he fled to the eastern European country

    He was described on-air as a ‘simple American whose shops were burned by Black Lives Matter activists’

    4chan /pol/ comments are running like this:

    We’re reaching the point where AMERICANS are fleeing the communist dictatorship at home and becoming refugees in ex-Soviet republics

    This country is such a third-world sh-thole that we literally have political refugees fleeing persecution, Jesus Christ

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Alden
    @anonymous

    What was Neumann charged with ? Walking while White into a public building through an open door during normal business hours?

    Putting Whites, Asians Hispanics into the all black guards almost all black prisoners DC jail is cruel and unusual punishment.

    There are 10 stages of genocide. Is America at stage 7 or 8 of the planned genocide of Whites?

  37. @Altai
    In fairness, having Poland in the EU and Schengen area is also the cause (Itself a result of the neocons wanting the EU to expand to include the post-Soviet states since the existing EU states were insufficiently anti-Russian) of this since there is total freedom of movement between Poland and the rest of the Schengen zone, no more border patrols or checkpoints into Germany.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457692200712744962

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457755285670481923

    https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1457727007706521602

    Once again the neocons make Europe pay for their aggressions against the designated enemy. This move won't work on Belarus' part because the neocons quite like streams of Muslims going in Europe and the Poles on the front line are quite on board with anti-Russian provocations. (Afterall, any that do get into Poland will go on to Germany anyway. In a way Poland could play Belarus' game and start letting them through to get something from Germany.)

    It's actually quite the transformation, due to a lack of any colonies by the time of the post-colonial era, Germany had no serious immigration of any kind until the late 70s. Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today, even into the early 2000s Germany was so monolithically German (Of course, 'German' encompasses lots of regional variation from Germanisation of adjacent populations over recent centuries) and then the Balkan asylum wave hit and the start of modern mass ethnic asylum seeking with set scripts and lines then the next wave of Turks hit and now there's lots more 'Southerners' of many varieties.

    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic disasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting. It also begets more immigration through getting businesses dependant on cheap labour. Even if the original source of cheap labour isn't so plentiful anymore, the businesses will then try to find new ways to suppress wages by getting in contact with say Brazilian recruiters etc. It terraforms the labour market to become based around cheap wages, to produce housing and employment systems for immigrants to be able to exist in.

    It also does it psychologically by making the destination location part of the mental territory of the source country as we can see with regards to say Turkey and Germany, two countries with almost no history in common let alone culturally but which most young Turks would see as a place they rightfully and normally go to, it is mentally part of their 'plunderspace'. They consider it a place they have claim and right to in a way they don't for other countries.

    Finally it displaces the natives so much from their own rightful social space that they kind of get cowed and give up being able to articulate a sense of ownership of their own land.

    Replies: @Rob, @Peter Lund, @Clyde

    > Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today

    I object to that.

    The official number of Turks has been around 4 million for two decades or so — which of course means that the real number must be higher. Almost all of them were in West Germany.

    I would not call that number small. At all.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Peter Lund

    A lot of them but compared to the numbers coming since the 2000s? It's just no comparison, you're seeing numbers that totaled the amount of foreign immigrants to Germany in the entire post-war period to the 2000s in a 8-10 years. Compared to the other big rich Western countries like Britain and France, they were few and far between before the mid 2000s and most of the country outside the big cities had almost none. Walking around German cities compared to French or British ones was a big difference.

    Even the reactions of the likes of Helmut Kohl about wanting to deport half of them as late as 1982 or reduce their number belies the totally different reality in Germany compared with other big European countries. Kohl could still entertain the idea that Germany belonged to Germans, this was gone elsewhere. It belies the relatively small number compared to other places even if it was a large number.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Peter Lund

    Unlike Blacks or North Africans, Turks could be assimilated with a little will. Most Turks are at least partially descended from the Europeans the Turks enslaved or conquered anyway.

    Replies: @Romanian

  38. Has any scholar ever examined whether living in a border area or state leads to certain qualities of character? In particular, whether border dwellers tend to be more likely to “discriminate”?

  39. @Eric Novak
    @Wilkey

    Germany has several trillion in industrial and infrastructure capital invested in Poland. It ain’t goin’ nowhere, as the average Polish forklift driver at a BMW engine facility would say. The EU can twist Poland’s arm about judicial independence, but Poland does hold all the cards.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Anonymous

    We just bought a new Bosch washing machine that was MADE IN POLAND.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    At least some things are still manufactured by Whites. One good thing about IKEA. Much of its product is manufactured in NE Europe like Czechia. Slovakia etc.

  40. @Rob McX
    These Visegrád countries drive the Globohomo crowd crazy. It probably also has something to do with their fanatical hostility to Brexit. The departure of Britain gives the Eastern countries more comparative weight in the EU, and this would increase drastically if another Western European country such as France were to bail out.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Romanian, @Reactive Reaction

    In fact, Brexit was a disaster for Eastern Europe, because the Brits, for all their faults, were a useful counterweight against the integrationist crowds. Without them, the only thing stopping complete Franco-German domination of the EU is their own squabbling. Make no mistake, the Europe of Nations was dealt a grievous blow by Brexit. The European Green New Deal is the first extremely statist move to emerge from that.

    • Thanks: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    The other side of that coin is that massive eastern European immigration into Britain - which showed absolutely no sense of proportion or restraint whatsoever - poisoned British attitudes toward the EU.

    Replies: @Romanian

  41. @Altai
    In fairness, having Poland in the EU and Schengen area is also the cause (Itself a result of the neocons wanting the EU to expand to include the post-Soviet states since the existing EU states were insufficiently anti-Russian) of this since there is total freedom of movement between Poland and the rest of the Schengen zone, no more border patrols or checkpoints into Germany.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457692200712744962

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457755285670481923

    https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1457727007706521602

    Once again the neocons make Europe pay for their aggressions against the designated enemy. This move won't work on Belarus' part because the neocons quite like streams of Muslims going in Europe and the Poles on the front line are quite on board with anti-Russian provocations. (Afterall, any that do get into Poland will go on to Germany anyway. In a way Poland could play Belarus' game and start letting them through to get something from Germany.)

    It's actually quite the transformation, due to a lack of any colonies by the time of the post-colonial era, Germany had no serious immigration of any kind until the late 70s. Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today, even into the early 2000s Germany was so monolithically German (Of course, 'German' encompasses lots of regional variation from Germanisation of adjacent populations over recent centuries) and then the Balkan asylum wave hit and the start of modern mass ethnic asylum seeking with set scripts and lines then the next wave of Turks hit and now there's lots more 'Southerners' of many varieties.

    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic disasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting. It also begets more immigration through getting businesses dependant on cheap labour. Even if the original source of cheap labour isn't so plentiful anymore, the businesses will then try to find new ways to suppress wages by getting in contact with say Brazilian recruiters etc. It terraforms the labour market to become based around cheap wages, to produce housing and employment systems for immigrants to be able to exist in.

    It also does it psychologically by making the destination location part of the mental territory of the source country as we can see with regards to say Turkey and Germany, two countries with almost no history in common let alone culturally but which most young Turks would see as a place they rightfully and normally go to, it is mentally part of their 'plunderspace'. They consider it a place they have claim and right to in a way they don't for other countries.

    Finally it displaces the natives so much from their own rightful social space that they kind of get cowed and give up being able to articulate a sense of ownership of their own land.

    Replies: @Rob, @Peter Lund, @Clyde

    “No go to Poland, we go to Germany” was what a refugee says in one of your videos. The bottom video. This surely calls for a safe exit corridor to Angela Merkel’s nation. Germany must immediately send 100 modern busses to the Pole-Belo border, to transport these worthies to their new Deutschland homes. Muslim Lebensraum, for Springtime in Germany! Mel Brooks can make the musical and the movie.

  42. @Hapalong Cassidy
    But this is bad news for Belarus, correct? They were counting on being able to send these immigrants over to Westerm Europe, but now because of Poland they are stuck with them. Some of them may end up in Russia. Bad news for those who are counting on Russia to preserve White Christian culture.

    Replies: @Altai

    They have no desire to settle in Belarus or Russia and will come home if they can’t get to Germany. (Or, more likely, try another route) The only reason they went all the way to Belarus (Often directly by plane) was because the Belarusian government let it be known they weren’t enforcing the border with Poland and thus the Schengen Zone.

    If they deign to stay they won’t find hospitality from the government wrt their obviously fake asylum bids. What is going to happen? They’ll sue them in the European Court of Human Rights? Belarus is already persona non grata, they don’t care.

  43. @Peter Lund
    @Altai

    > Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today

    I object to that.

    The official number of Turks has been around 4 million for two decades or so -- which of course means that the real number must be higher. Almost all of them were in West Germany.

    I would not call that number small. At all.

    Replies: @Altai, @Peter Akuleyev

    A lot of them but compared to the numbers coming since the 2000s? It’s just no comparison, you’re seeing numbers that totaled the amount of foreign immigrants to Germany in the entire post-war period to the 2000s in a 8-10 years. Compared to the other big rich Western countries like Britain and France, they were few and far between before the mid 2000s and most of the country outside the big cities had almost none. Walking around German cities compared to French or British ones was a big difference.

    Even the reactions of the likes of Helmut Kohl about wanting to deport half of them as late as 1982 or reduce their number belies the totally different reality in Germany compared with other big European countries. Kohl could still entertain the idea that Germany belonged to Germans, this was gone elsewhere. It belies the relatively small number compared to other places even if it was a large number.

  44. @Bragadocious
    But the smart posters assure us Germany is controlled/pozzed by the USA and would never, ever behave this way if they were freeeee...

    The hell they wouldn’t.

    Replies: @fnn, @HammerJack, @Reactive Reaction

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    She is now the anti-nationalist superpower. Morgen die ganze Welt indeed.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Reactive Reaction

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    They were blasted not for being a nationalist superpower but for trying to be an empire.

    Replies: @byrresheim

  45. There is nothing stopping the Poles from giving migrants tickets for the non-stop Deutsche Bahn service from Warsaw to Berlin.

    • Agree: Hugo Silva
  46. @Rob McX
    These Visegrád countries drive the Globohomo crowd crazy. It probably also has something to do with their fanatical hostility to Brexit. The departure of Britain gives the Eastern countries more comparative weight in the EU, and this would increase drastically if another Western European country such as France were to bail out.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Romanian, @Reactive Reaction

    Visegrad 4 + Austrian Ukraine + Austria herself + Croatia = The Empire Strikes Back

  47. @JohnnyWalker123
    After it was apparent that a number of people were hurt at the concert, rapper Travis Scott started to do bizarre ritualistic chanting. Listen to the chanting. It is very frightening.

    https://twitter.com/RobotEmbryo/status/1457223137033003009

    There's something sinister about what happened at that concert. 8 died and 300 were injured. Read the article below.

    https://twitter.com/vigilantfeed/status/1457435858177507333

    Someone was running around with a needle, injecting people with an unknown fluid. That may have been a factor in the chaos and deaths.

    The show was full of Satanic and Occult imagery.

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/astroworld4.jpg

    Do Satanists run Hollywood?

    Was Stanley Kubrick's film "Eyes Wide Shut" a realistic glimpse into the Occultism of our debauched elites?

    Why is there so much Occultism at the top? Marina Abramovich ("Spirit Cooking"). The Podestas. Jeffrey Epstein's island. The imagery in Ghislaine Maxwell's home. The Rothschilds. At some point, you begin to wonder...

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    Why is there so much Occultism at the top?

    Simple. It’s kind of boring at the top. And a lot of the people at the top are spoiled mediocre thinkers. Fertile ground for anything that will provide a cheap thrill.

  48. @Peter Lund
    @Altai

    > Though people can cite the Greeks and Turks (Mostly East Anatolian peasants who themselves and their descendants vote SDP in Germany and support the right-wing nationalist Erdogan in Turkey) etc but their numbers were and are so small to what exists today

    I object to that.

    The official number of Turks has been around 4 million for two decades or so -- which of course means that the real number must be higher. Almost all of them were in West Germany.

    I would not call that number small. At all.

    Replies: @Altai, @Peter Akuleyev

    Unlike Blacks or North Africans, Turks could be assimilated with a little will. Most Turks are at least partially descended from the Europeans the Turks enslaved or conquered anyway.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Integrated, yes. Assimilated, I am not so sure. Let's not forget that there are indigenous Turkish communities all over South Eastern Europe, including 10% of the Bulgarian population. The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).

    Replies: @papers

  49. @Dmitry
    This is a significantly Belarus-Poland conflict. Lukashenko is trying troll Poland with a "Mariel boatlift", and not without provocation.

    Poland sponsors the Belarus opposition nationalism (the Belarus nationalist camps are hosted in Poland), as well as e.g. Belsat TV.

    This is not reported in America, but last year, there were street protests against Lukashenko (many protesters imprisoned and bullied), and Poland's destabilization policy to Lukashenko was evidently frightening him

    Apparently inspired by Castro, Lukashenko is replying that he can turn you into the next Miami Vice, just with less cool clothes and added Syrian militants.

    It's not like Lukashenko is targeting Germany, whose political class might say "thank your for flying in all these immigrants" from ISIS hotzones.

    As for genuine refugees (as opposed to economic immigrants) if any are involved in this incident, you have to feel sad for them being exploited for such games.

    -


    Although if we believe Belsat, it seems that Poland is stopping.
    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457749299207581703
    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457716575771975680

    https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1457767772621053953

    Replies: @utu, @Peter Akuleyev

    Belarus is a fake country sitting on Polish ancestral land. That is part of the problem.

  50. @Romanian
    @Rob McX

    In fact, Brexit was a disaster for Eastern Europe, because the Brits, for all their faults, were a useful counterweight against the integrationist crowds. Without them, the only thing stopping complete Franco-German domination of the EU is their own squabbling. Make no mistake, the Europe of Nations was dealt a grievous blow by Brexit. The European Green New Deal is the first extremely statist move to emerge from that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The other side of that coin is that massive eastern European immigration into Britain – which showed absolutely no sense of proportion or restraint whatsoever – poisoned British attitudes toward the EU.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    On the one hand, I agree with you. I wish there were no Eastern Europeans in Britain or anywhere in the Western EU in large numbers for that matter. The trick when gauging immigration is whether the origin country is happy to see the back of them. Mine is not, although it is trying to delude itself that being an immigrant (deserter) is virtuous ever since the diaspora became an important electoral force. But I would contend that this immigration is nothing compared to the damage done by non-European immigrants and is also limited by the rapid contraction of the origin countries, as opposed to Pakistan. For all the whinging about Eastern immigration that you heard since 2007 with Romania and Bulgaria, we are finite (and small) quantities and elderly populations already, and sub-replacement TFR.

    What I think happened was that the Christian European immigrants became the only acceptable target for anti-immigrant sentiment, because of the political correctness and outright protection awarded to the Pakistanis and other groups, especially as citizens. So the Romania and Polish menace grew in the minds of Britons, even to the ridiculous point where Nigel Farage said that Britain does not need Poles, it can get as many subcon immigrants as it wants (and more besides, I would wager). Nor has the UK encountered difficulty in deporting criminals from these groups, as it has for Pakistan.

    In any case, my country is slowly dying from the brain drain and the movement of its young workers abroad, though it does not know it yet. The exodus of gypsies is a sweetener, but it is not enough to make up for the loss in the young population. For my mind, send them all back. We are better off for it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @anonymous

  51. Anyone been looking at some of the video coming from the Poland-Belarus border? Seeing all my soon to be new neighbors. That thing is about to get really hot really soon.

    I was thinking about that earlier today, and I don’t think it’s hard to figure that Lukashenko knows he has Western Europe and especially Official Germany in, as they say in this country, Schachmatt (“checkmate,” a word my father-in-law says to me a whole lot.) He has to know about the forked tongue doublespeak from this part of the continent: On the one hand, 2015 was a great benefit, Wir Schaffen Das (“we can do it”), Wir Haben Platz (“we have space”), and as Merkel herself said over the weekend, Ja, wir haben das geschafft (“yes, we did it”). On the other hand, the same people are constantly warning against and want to prevent another 2015. So what Lukashenko is doing is testing Official Germany’s hand, along with saving himself.

    • Thanks: Alden
  52. @El Dato
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Putin is at best fighting for "slavic interests" but his primary motivation is keeping Russia together.

    Note that being a "buddy" (on and off as Lukash is not above dropping a turd on theRussian lawn from time to time) doesn't mean you have to micromanage every little problem.

    Maybe there will be Anschluss within the next 10 years, then it will be different.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    There are no “Slavic interests”. He is for Russian interests & I’m OK with that.

    Just, judging him by his deeds & one of his ideologues, Dugin- who is a shallow fantasist- his is an Euro-Asian orientation. He just doesn’t possess European quasi-racial consciousness. I am not saying Putin should be some kind of racist. But, his willy-nilly Manichean world-view confronts Russia with the “West”.

    As if he doesn’t understand that Russia is the easternmost part of the West, and not the western part of the East.

    Lukashenka’s bullshit behavior is something very serious, and Putin is very well aware of that. His behavior is similar to Erdogan’s. They both are, re. migrant crisis- bullshitters. Just, while I don’t hold grudge against Erdogan- he’s, after all, primarily a Muslim- Putin is, in this respect, something similar to “race traitor”.

    Whichever he may have said & done on other occasions, this type of policy is no-no.

  53. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Peter Lund

    Unlike Blacks or North Africans, Turks could be assimilated with a little will. Most Turks are at least partially descended from the Europeans the Turks enslaved or conquered anyway.

    Replies: @Romanian

    Integrated, yes. Assimilated, I am not so sure. Let’s not forget that there are indigenous Turkish communities all over South Eastern Europe, including 10% of the Bulgarian population. The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).

    • Replies: @papers
    @Romanian


    The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).
     
    Do they? 25-30% of all newborns in Turkey are ethnic Kurds. And now they have between 4 to 5 million Syrians/Aghans/Pakis etc living in Turkey, too. Ethnic Turkish TFR is ~1.7 per woman.

    The next president of Turkey is likely to be from CHP. They may have promised to take a harder line on immigration, out of political expediency rather than conviction, but in all other respects it's a secular, pro-EU liberal party.

    Replies: @Alden

  54. @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    The other side of that coin is that massive eastern European immigration into Britain - which showed absolutely no sense of proportion or restraint whatsoever - poisoned British attitudes toward the EU.

    Replies: @Romanian

    On the one hand, I agree with you. I wish there were no Eastern Europeans in Britain or anywhere in the Western EU in large numbers for that matter. The trick when gauging immigration is whether the origin country is happy to see the back of them. Mine is not, although it is trying to delude itself that being an immigrant (deserter) is virtuous ever since the diaspora became an important electoral force. But I would contend that this immigration is nothing compared to the damage done by non-European immigrants and is also limited by the rapid contraction of the origin countries, as opposed to Pakistan. For all the whinging about Eastern immigration that you heard since 2007 with Romania and Bulgaria, we are finite (and small) quantities and elderly populations already, and sub-replacement TFR.

    What I think happened was that the Christian European immigrants became the only acceptable target for anti-immigrant sentiment, because of the political correctness and outright protection awarded to the Pakistanis and other groups, especially as citizens. So the Romania and Polish menace grew in the minds of Britons, even to the ridiculous point where Nigel Farage said that Britain does not need Poles, it can get as many subcon immigrants as it wants (and more besides, I would wager). Nor has the UK encountered difficulty in deporting criminals from these groups, as it has for Pakistan.

    In any case, my country is slowly dying from the brain drain and the movement of its young workers abroad, though it does not know it yet. The exodus of gypsies is a sweetener, but it is not enough to make up for the loss in the young population. For my mind, send them all back. We are better off for it.

    • Agree: Alden, byrresheim
    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    The objection to east European in the UK was mostly down to labor competition - that is, capitalist bosses exploited the immigrants in order to reduce wages down to the lowest irreducible level, while at the same time pushing rents up close to the maximum possible ceiling, thus causing distress for a large part of the native British electorate. The influx was as vast as it was fast - virtually unprecedented in UK history.
    Ironically, it was a *Labour* government - a political party founded specifically to defend workers against rapacious capitalists, which did this.

    , @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    Nowadays, *every* English main Street is worked by a relay of *at least* ten distinct Romanian Gypsy beggars.

    , @anonymous
    @Romanian

    How is the country dying? It's just getting smaller. It can grow back.

  55. Angela Merkel still believes it was her “deal” with Turkey which finally ended the mass migration in 2015. As far as I know this is not true, it was ended by Balkan states closing the border. Of course they were harshly criticized by German politicians for doing that.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  56. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    On the one hand, I agree with you. I wish there were no Eastern Europeans in Britain or anywhere in the Western EU in large numbers for that matter. The trick when gauging immigration is whether the origin country is happy to see the back of them. Mine is not, although it is trying to delude itself that being an immigrant (deserter) is virtuous ever since the diaspora became an important electoral force. But I would contend that this immigration is nothing compared to the damage done by non-European immigrants and is also limited by the rapid contraction of the origin countries, as opposed to Pakistan. For all the whinging about Eastern immigration that you heard since 2007 with Romania and Bulgaria, we are finite (and small) quantities and elderly populations already, and sub-replacement TFR.

    What I think happened was that the Christian European immigrants became the only acceptable target for anti-immigrant sentiment, because of the political correctness and outright protection awarded to the Pakistanis and other groups, especially as citizens. So the Romania and Polish menace grew in the minds of Britons, even to the ridiculous point where Nigel Farage said that Britain does not need Poles, it can get as many subcon immigrants as it wants (and more besides, I would wager). Nor has the UK encountered difficulty in deporting criminals from these groups, as it has for Pakistan.

    In any case, my country is slowly dying from the brain drain and the movement of its young workers abroad, though it does not know it yet. The exodus of gypsies is a sweetener, but it is not enough to make up for the loss in the young population. For my mind, send them all back. We are better off for it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    The objection to east European in the UK was mostly down to labor competition – that is, capitalist bosses exploited the immigrants in order to reduce wages down to the lowest irreducible level, while at the same time pushing rents up close to the maximum possible ceiling, thus causing distress for a large part of the native British electorate. The influx was as vast as it was fast – virtually unprecedented in UK history.
    Ironically, it was a *Labour* government – a political party founded specifically to defend workers against rapacious capitalists, which did this.

  57. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    On the one hand, I agree with you. I wish there were no Eastern Europeans in Britain or anywhere in the Western EU in large numbers for that matter. The trick when gauging immigration is whether the origin country is happy to see the back of them. Mine is not, although it is trying to delude itself that being an immigrant (deserter) is virtuous ever since the diaspora became an important electoral force. But I would contend that this immigration is nothing compared to the damage done by non-European immigrants and is also limited by the rapid contraction of the origin countries, as opposed to Pakistan. For all the whinging about Eastern immigration that you heard since 2007 with Romania and Bulgaria, we are finite (and small) quantities and elderly populations already, and sub-replacement TFR.

    What I think happened was that the Christian European immigrants became the only acceptable target for anti-immigrant sentiment, because of the political correctness and outright protection awarded to the Pakistanis and other groups, especially as citizens. So the Romania and Polish menace grew in the minds of Britons, even to the ridiculous point where Nigel Farage said that Britain does not need Poles, it can get as many subcon immigrants as it wants (and more besides, I would wager). Nor has the UK encountered difficulty in deporting criminals from these groups, as it has for Pakistan.

    In any case, my country is slowly dying from the brain drain and the movement of its young workers abroad, though it does not know it yet. The exodus of gypsies is a sweetener, but it is not enough to make up for the loss in the young population. For my mind, send them all back. We are better off for it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    Nowadays, *every* English main Street is worked by a relay of *at least* ten distinct Romanian Gypsy beggars.

  58. @Romanian
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Integrated, yes. Assimilated, I am not so sure. Let's not forget that there are indigenous Turkish communities all over South Eastern Europe, including 10% of the Bulgarian population. The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).

    Replies: @papers

    The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).

    Do they? 25-30% of all newborns in Turkey are ethnic Kurds. And now they have between 4 to 5 million Syrians/Aghans/Pakis etc living in Turkey, too. Ethnic Turkish TFR is ~1.7 per woman.

    The next president of Turkey is likely to be from CHP. They may have promised to take a harder line on immigration, out of political expediency rather than conviction, but in all other respects it’s a secular, pro-EU liberal party.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @papers

    As proven by DNA, the Turks are 42 percent E European Slav. Because of the kidnapping and enslavement of millions of Christian Slavs since about the year 800AD. As soon as the Turks crossed the Asian Caucasian line in their invasion route west.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  59. @Reactive Reaction
    @Bragadocious

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    She is now the anti-nationalist superpower. Morgen die ganze Welt indeed.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    They were blasted not for being a nationalist superpower but for trying to be an empire.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    @kaganovitch

    They were blasted for daring to compete successfully with the Brits.

  60. @Rob
    @Altai


    Immigration feeds more immigration both by creating ethnic diasporas to inform both a kind of emigration life path and tradition and by creating information networks and social media flaunting.
     
    There was a blogger who had a very interesting conclusion from this line of reasoning. The less compatible the new aliens are with their host, the more they immigrate. If two peoples are compatible, his example was England and Australia, Australian immigrants might be friends with another ex-pat or two, but most of their social connections are to British people. When one gets married, it’s probably to a British person. Their kids? “I’m British, but my dad’s Australian.” Pakistanis, though, are not compatible. They have nothing in common with the English people they exploit. All of their social connections are to other Pakistanis. They have the most in common with They form a ghetto. Sometimes a ghetto dispersed spatially, but a ghetto. For some aliens, this might be a prosperous, low-crime, attractive ghetto. The Pakistani is much more willing to provide a place for another Paki invader than an Australian is for a co-national. The Pakistanis kids? Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto. When they reach late adolescence or even early adulthood, they become the boy-bait for the poor British girls their families exploit. When they age out of that, they import a bride from Pakistan.

    I wish I remembered the blogger who said that. I bookmarked his site, though it had been inactive for years. I think Spandrell quoted it somewhere? I give that guess like a 5% chance of accuracy.

    When you couple compatibility differences with creating and absorbing value differences, it seems obvious that Pakis would form a self-licking ice cream cone of immigration, but not Australians.

    Probably immigrants fit into a sliding scale of compatibility

    1) one of us, but has an accent: Anglosphere whites. So South African whites, but not blacks
    2) one of us, but different native language. A French ex-pat here might marry a French woman and raise his kids multiculturally.
    3) Different, but the kids raised here more or less fit in. Koreans. Only the first generation is a risk of importing more
    4) incompatible, different language, different race (incl. non-white Caucasoids) or alien religion, compatible IQ, say average 90 - 110. Bosniaks. Reasonably smart, do not take Islam seriously
    5) incompatible with the social role here. Hispanics. They are what Muslims would be if we did not hate each other. High TFR in homeland means they have lots of chain migration risk
    6) Very incompatible. Hostile alien civilization. Too low IQ to enter the middle class. Alien culture is a draw. Culture has a high TFR, so they have siblings and cousins to import. Do not (in many cases cannot) intermarry. Arranged marriage and patriarchy mean daughters bring over the cousins they marry. Indians go here. The caste system and exploitation.
    7) No plusses, only minuses. Arabs are the worst. Any dumb, clannish folk. Maybe smart and clannish is the worst. Not sure if Nigerians go here or 6. Most Africans go here, especially Muslim ones.

    First, given the horrible aliens, we have now, we need either zero immigration plus inducements to leave or a national quota system. I think a country’s TFR should be considered very important. Nothing says incompatibility like 8 children per woman and polygamy. The functionality of their co-ethnics already here matters. African Americans do poorly, would do even worse without the thumb on the scale that helps them, so no Africans. Arabs here do badly and are the most boomer, so to speak, ethnicity. They complain of “islamophobia.” We are doing their relatives a favor keeping them out. Perhaps the ones who are here would like to take this generous severance offer and move home, where there is no Islamophobia. Etc

    No more Hispanics of any sort. The illegals have permanently degraded the country’s current and future human capital. They didn’t cone consensually. Quota: zero (0)

    I realize that the total failure of Trump, who could not have been worse had he been controlled opposition, means the country cannot be saved. Things might turn out ok if we figure out a smart drug or at least gene therapy, or we have a facially race-blind, successful eugenics policy. But even if we did get a eugenics law with teeth, the country is far too degraded, the political and pro-man classes especially, that it would be all “145 IQ: 5 points. African American: 500 points” or would be so cheated at that it did not matter. Hispanics, for very good reasons, have decided our laws do not apply to them.

    I realize that if we cannot get a politician elected, we have no hope of improvement. Maybe we could at least get “no discrimination or demonization of whites or any other population” law out of the anti-CRT-inspired education that won at least one election?

    The one good thing about Hispanics? Their political class wants to tax capital. That, and when push comes to shove, they came for a white-run country, not one run either by or for blacks.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Clyde

    Well, first off, given the difference in wealth production of Pakistanis on their own versus draining Britain, the Pakistani man can buy a wife, often a cousin, and import her. His kids are Pakistani. They live in the Pakistani ghetto.

    You have this reversed. The head man of the Pakistani family in Pakistan pays the head man of the Pakistani family in Great Britain. When the family in Pakistan has one or more family members living in Great Britain, the Paki stan based family members can now be immigrated into UK via family re-unification policies

  61. Less barbwiring, more shooting.

  62. Not to ask a silly question, but why is what Lukashenko doing any worse than what various “non-govenrmental organizations” are doing in the Mediterranean? A ship owned by a German NGO just docked in Sicily a few days ago to disembark 800 African “refugees.” The number of immigrant invaders being brought to European shores by these NGOs is far higher than the number being sent by Belarus, and it’s been going on for a much longer time.

    The NGOs may not be sponsoring the invaders the way Belarus is (or perhaps they are), but they are ferrying them hundreds of miles across the Mediterranean when an African port is usually much closer to the point of rescue.

    • Agree: Rob McX, Clyde
    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    @Wilkey

    its not only European NGO who do the same thing. E.g. the german navy does the same.

    Replies: @Wilkey

  63. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Lithuania is to blame for this mess. They decided to pick a fight with Belarus by sponsoring regime change more aggressively than any other country and hosted hundreds of dissidents. Lithuania wants a permanent US military presence. They have built a base already but the US only has a rotating presence. As expected, Belarus did not respond kindly to regime change and unleashed thousands of Iraqi minorities onto Lithuania, which shut its border to them. Now they are Poland’s problem.

  64. @Harpagornis
    Enlightened YouTubers are making a tremendous effort to educate the Poles and cure them of their racism:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GN6VNjo3BdA

    Replies: @anonymous

    Those kids deserve to be scolded.

  65. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    On the one hand, I agree with you. I wish there were no Eastern Europeans in Britain or anywhere in the Western EU in large numbers for that matter. The trick when gauging immigration is whether the origin country is happy to see the back of them. Mine is not, although it is trying to delude itself that being an immigrant (deserter) is virtuous ever since the diaspora became an important electoral force. But I would contend that this immigration is nothing compared to the damage done by non-European immigrants and is also limited by the rapid contraction of the origin countries, as opposed to Pakistan. For all the whinging about Eastern immigration that you heard since 2007 with Romania and Bulgaria, we are finite (and small) quantities and elderly populations already, and sub-replacement TFR.

    What I think happened was that the Christian European immigrants became the only acceptable target for anti-immigrant sentiment, because of the political correctness and outright protection awarded to the Pakistanis and other groups, especially as citizens. So the Romania and Polish menace grew in the minds of Britons, even to the ridiculous point where Nigel Farage said that Britain does not need Poles, it can get as many subcon immigrants as it wants (and more besides, I would wager). Nor has the UK encountered difficulty in deporting criminals from these groups, as it has for Pakistan.

    In any case, my country is slowly dying from the brain drain and the movement of its young workers abroad, though it does not know it yet. The exodus of gypsies is a sweetener, but it is not enough to make up for the loss in the young population. For my mind, send them all back. We are better off for it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    How is the country dying? It’s just getting smaller. It can grow back.

  66. @papers
    @Romanian


    The Turks have a virile/muscular culture with strong memory and strong dislikes (of Kurds for instance).
     
    Do they? 25-30% of all newborns in Turkey are ethnic Kurds. And now they have between 4 to 5 million Syrians/Aghans/Pakis etc living in Turkey, too. Ethnic Turkish TFR is ~1.7 per woman.

    The next president of Turkey is likely to be from CHP. They may have promised to take a harder line on immigration, out of political expediency rather than conviction, but in all other respects it's a secular, pro-EU liberal party.

    Replies: @Alden

    As proven by DNA, the Turks are 42 percent E European Slav. Because of the kidnapping and enslavement of millions of Christian Slavs since about the year 800AD. As soon as the Turks crossed the Asian Caucasian line in their invasion route west.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    Which study is that?

    That '42% east European Slav' figure just sounds off, because, surely, even it is true, it must vary massively between different sub group to sub group, and giving a percentage precise to a single digit like that just sounds so erroneous and anti scientific in this context.

    It's like saying that the Mexican population is, precisely, '42% Iberian'.

  67. @Anonymous
    @Eric Novak

    We just bought a new Bosch washing machine that was MADE IN POLAND.

    Replies: @Alden

    At least some things are still manufactured by Whites. One good thing about IKEA. Much of its product is manufactured in NE Europe like Czechia. Slovakia etc.

  68. @anonymous
    Belarus is giving asylum to a US citizen who is one of the pro-Trump January 6 Capitol rioters wanted by the FBI, the refugee from USA looking happy as he appears on Belarus television
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10178457/Capitol-rioter-wanted-FBI-attacking-cops-gets-asylum-Belarus.html

    Evan Neumann, 48, was charged in July on six separate criminal charges for his alleged participation in the January 6 insurrection

    He described what he called 'political prosecution' in the United States and described how he fled to the eastern European country

    He was described on-air as a 'simple American whose shops were burned by Black Lives Matter activists'
     
    4chan /pol/ comments are running like this:

    We're reaching the point where AMERICANS are fleeing the communist dictatorship at home and becoming refugees in ex-Soviet republics

    This country is such a third-world sh-thole that we literally have political refugees fleeing persecution, Jesus Christ
     

    Replies: @Alden

    What was Neumann charged with ? Walking while White into a public building through an open door during normal business hours?

    Putting Whites, Asians Hispanics into the all black guards almost all black prisoners DC jail is cruel and unusual punishment.

    There are 10 stages of genocide. Is America at stage 7 or 8 of the planned genocide of Whites?

  69. “Germany’s traditional tendency toward extremism.”

    Churchill said, “The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet”.

  70. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @papers

    As proven by DNA, the Turks are 42 percent E European Slav. Because of the kidnapping and enslavement of millions of Christian Slavs since about the year 800AD. As soon as the Turks crossed the Asian Caucasian line in their invasion route west.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Which study is that?

    That ‘42% east European Slav’ figure just sounds off, because, surely, even it is true, it must vary massively between different sub group to sub group, and giving a percentage precise to a single digit like that just sounds so erroneous and anti scientific in this context.

    It’s like saying that the Mexican population is, precisely, ‘42% Iberian’.

  71. @Wilkey
    Not to ask a silly question, but why is what Lukashenko doing any worse than what various "non-govenrmental organizations" are doing in the Mediterranean? A ship owned by a German NGO just docked in Sicily a few days ago to disembark 800 African "refugees." The number of immigrant invaders being brought to European shores by these NGOs is far higher than the number being sent by Belarus, and it's been going on for a much longer time.

    The NGOs may not be sponsoring the invaders the way Belarus is (or perhaps they are), but they are ferrying them hundreds of miles across the Mediterranean when an African port is usually much closer to the point of rescue.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven

    its not only European NGO who do the same thing. E.g. the german navy does the same.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Erik Sieven

    It would be horrifically funny to watch the EU start a war with Belarus (and perhaps Russia) over something that the EU itself is doing in the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @byrresheim

  72. @Reg Cæsar

    Belarus-Sponsored Immigration Rush
     
    When did White Russia become Anti-White Russia?

    https://www.freeworldmaps.net/de/weissrussland/weissrussland.jpg

    Replies: @Pericles

    As we perhaps recall, the EU has been messing with Belarus for a while now. For instance, there were some tugs of color revolution not so long ago.

  73. @Erik Sieven
    @Wilkey

    its not only European NGO who do the same thing. E.g. the german navy does the same.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    It would be horrifically funny to watch the EU start a war with Belarus (and perhaps Russia) over something that the EU itself is doing in the Mediterranean.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    @Wilkey

    Double standards as casus belli?

    Now that's an original idea.

  74. Where does Belarus, with its ancient language, literature and history come into this?

    A link from the Wikipedia entry on Belarus, note 234, to YIVO on Belarusian literature.

    Oh, and its ancient capital.

    One Iraqi Kurdish woman told the Guardian that she was brought to Belarus by a travel agency that provided them with flights to Minsk and then a transfer to the EU’s external border. People can be charged €15,000-€20,000 (£12,800-£17,100) when they reach Belarus.

  75. @kaganovitch
    @Reactive Reaction

    Having been blasted to dust for being a nationalist superpower, Germany has learned her lesson.

    They were blasted not for being a nationalist superpower but for trying to be an empire.

    Replies: @byrresheim

    They were blasted for daring to compete successfully with the Brits.

  76. @Wilkey
    @Erik Sieven

    It would be horrifically funny to watch the EU start a war with Belarus (and perhaps Russia) over something that the EU itself is doing in the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @byrresheim

    Double standards as casus belli?

    Now that’s an original idea.

  77. > Ironically, of course, the EU is trying to punish its protectors.

    Actually, at least for now Germany is rather cooperative. (there were some nice words from Brussels, too)

    https://www.rbb24.de/studiofrankfurt/politik/2021/10/fluechtende-belarus-deutsch-polnische-streife-grenze-frankfurt-brandenburg-polizei.html
    »Dass gemeinsame Teams aus deutschen und polnischen Polizisten unterwegs seien, biete sehr viele Vorteile: “Wenn die Menschen die Uniform der deutschen Bundespolizisten sehen, glauben sie teilweise, dass sie schon in Deutschland sind, obwohl sie sich noch in Polen befinden. So kommt es dann oft nicht zu den zum Teil heftigen Reaktionen”, sagt Karwiec.«

    deepl+com: »The fact that joint teams of German and Polish police officers are on the road offers many advantages: “When people see the uniform of the German federal police officers, they sometimes believe that they are already in Germany, although they are still in Poland. So the sometimes violent reactions often don’t happen,” says Karwiec.«

    https://www.nau.ch/news/europa/migration-an-grenze-polen-will-mit-deutschland-zusammenarbeiten-66027572
    »Polens Innenminister Mariusz Kaminski hat sich bei seinem deutschen Amtskollegen Horst Seehofer (CSU) für die angebotene engere Zusammenarbeit an der deutsch-polnischen Grenze bedankt. Hintergrund ist die gestiegene Zahl illegaler Einreisen über Belarus. «

    »Poland’s Interior Minister Mariusz Kaminski has thanked his German counterpart Horst Seehofer (CSU) for offering closer cooperation on the German-Polish border. The background is the increased number of illegal entries via Belarus.«

    https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/belarus-polen-fluechtlinge-103.html
    »Es kommen vermehrt Flüchtlinge über Belarus – mutmaßlich vom dortigen Regime geschleust. Während Innenminister Seehofer deshalb über Kontrollen an der deutsch-polnischen Grenze nachdenkt, setzt Sachsens Ministerpräsident Kretschmer auf Finanzhilfen für Polen.«

    »More refugees are coming via Belarus – presumably smuggled by the regime there. While Interior Minister Seehofer is therefore considering controls at the German-Polish border, Saxony’s Prime Minister Kretschmer is counting on financial aid for Poland.«

  78. @El Dato
    @Eric Novak

    They already did back in 1920

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)


    The Battle of Warsaw (Polish: Bitwa Warszawska, Russian: Варшавская битва, transcription: Varshavskaya bitva, Ukrainian: Варшавська битва, transcription: Varshavsʹka bytva), also known as the Miracle on the Vistula (Polish: Cud nad Wisłą), was a series of battles that resulted in a decisive Polish victory in 1920 during the Polish–Soviet War. Poland, on the verge of total defeat, repulsed and defeated the Red Army.

    After the Polish Kiev Offensive [aka "preemptive war"], Soviet forces launched a successful counterattack in summer 1920, forcing the Polish army to retreat westward in disarray. The Polish forces seemed on the verge of disintegration and observers predicted a decisive Soviet victory.

    The battle of Warsaw was fought from August 12–25, 1920 as Red Army forces commanded by Mikhail Tukhachevsky approached the Polish capital of Warsaw and the nearby Modlin Fortress. On August 16, Polish forces commanded by Józef Piłsudski counterattacked from the south, disrupting the enemy's offensive, forcing the Russian forces into a disorganized withdrawal eastward and behind the Neman River. Estimated Russian losses were 10,000 killed, 500 missing, 30,000 wounded, and 66,000 taken prisoner, compared with Polish losses of some 4,500 killed, 10,000 missing, and 22,000 wounded.
     

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I believe Samuel, the grandfather of David and Ed Miliband, senior UK Labour Party figures, fought in the Battle Of Warsaw – but, despite being of Polish birth and a Warsaw resident, on the Russian Communist losing side.

    He then moved as one does to Belgium, then in 1940 across the Channel to England. Ed Miliband has given the same Samuel to his firstborn son.

    (David has moved on again, to the USA)

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