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Julia Ioffe in Politico has a long article about Donald Trump’s immigration idea man and warm-up act Stephen Miller. She intends to insinuate that the young staffer is some kind of Goebbels / Father Coughlin / Huey Long enemy.

But Miller also cuts a deeply unsettling figure, even to many in his own party. His nine-year career working for some of the most politically fringe figures on the Hill—he also worked for Michele Bachmann and helped David Brat in his primary defeat of Eric Cantor—was preceded by a trail of writings and provocations that go all the way back to high school, one that has raised the eyebrows of even conservative Republicans.

Artist’s impression of Stephen Miller from reading Julia Ioffe’s article

There is something eerily vintage about Miller’s stump speeches. The combination of their substance—vilifying immigrants as killers, the promise of nativist glory days ahead—and their delivery with a calm face around a loud, droning mouth, slicked-back hair and sharp suit, floridly invoking powerful cabals against the people: All of it harks back to an earlier time. It’s as if the video should be in black and white, and the microphone in front of Miller an antique, metallic affair. …

“All the anger right underneath the surface just waiting to come through, about what I don’t know,” says a former staffer with the Republican leadership on the Hill. “I’ve seen the videos of him getting the crowd fired up. People that knew him when he was on the Hill, I don’t know how to describe the reactions people had to the videos of him. Maybe creeped out a little bit? Like, what’s going to happen when this guy gets the power?” He pauses as a thought dawns on him. “Oh my God,” he says. “He’s going to find out that I spoke with you and I’m going to end up in a camp somewhere.”

One problem is that she has to quote Miller a lot to fill out her space, and he’s awfully reasonable and she can’t think of much except to point ‘n’ sputter:

Miller studied political science, but the apogee of his college career was not academic. It was a PR coup: his public defense, in the pages of the Duke Chronicle and on national television, of the Duke lacrosse players accused of rape by a black stripper. He penned several columns in their defense under titles like “Prejudice,” “Persecution,” and “Crawl to Justice.” He alleged there was indeed a racial motivation for the case: that of the radical left in going after white lacrosse players. “Being a white, male lacrosse player was all it took,” he wrote in one column. In another, titled “Racial Hypocrisy,” he wrote, “But when a black man was recently accused of raping a white Duke student at a party hosted by members of a black Duke fraternity, suddenly these great defenders of virtue fell silent.” He went on the O’Reilly Factor and the Nancy Grace Show to defend the lacrosse players, wearing a suit, a smirk, and a gold pinky ring. Even then, he was already a polished, florid speaker.

The Duke lacrosse players were vindicated, and to this day Miller is still bursting with pride. “The thing that I’m proudest of is that I spoke out early and often on behalf of American legal principles in the Duke lacrosse case when it was not popular,” he told me. “I take great pride that, under enormous social and political pressure, I remained steadfast in my support for due process.”

Another problem for Ioffe is that Miller is Jewish:

“I’M IN HEAVEN!” Ann Coulter tweeted when it was announced in late January that Trump had hired Miller, whom Coulter called “Sessions’ brain trust.” The hire, Coulter felt, offered a sign that Trump was “not backing down on immigration.”

How did Stephen Miller come to occupy such an extreme position on immigration? Strangely, it was his experience coming of age in a liberal Jewish family in liberal Santa Monica, the Berkeley of Southern California. “I think it was growing up in California, he saw the role that mass migration played turning a red state blue,” says one former Senate colleague. “He was fearful that that would happen to the rest of the country.”

What an extremist wacko! Who believes immigration will tend to make America more Democratic-voting, other than all Democratic politicians and strategists?

Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country. The Jewish immigration restrictionist intellectuals from Southern California such as David Horowitz, Mickey Kaus, and various low-key friends of Ann Coulter tend to be aware that the kind of immigration policies that are good for Israelis would also be good for Americans.

A more difficult question is why other American Jewish pundits are so oblivious to this straightforward logic.

Julia Ioffe has spelled out her own motivation — she takes Miller’s proposed restrictions on Muslim immigrants coming to America as a personal insult because her family arrived in the United States in 1990 as refugees from the post-Berlin Wall Gorbachevian Soviet Union. The Jackson-Vanik act had singled out Jews from the Soviet Union for special immigration preferences:

So, ironically, Julia Ioffe has made herself an obvious example that America has a tradition of immigration policies based on religion/ethnicity. This may help explain why she can’t come up with substantive objections to Miller’s worldview.

My guess is that Ioffe is smart enough to find crimestop a little painful: she’s aware that the Sailer/Miller view of how the world works makes more sense than the conventional wisdom, but she also has her career to consider.

Ioffe reminds me of a conversation I had with a Russian immigrant 15 years ago who was very relieved when I told him American journalists were hypocrites:

http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-conversation-with-a-russian-immigrant

“Hypocrite I understand. I grow up in Soviet Union. Lying to save your job, that’s life. No, I was very worried smart people in America weren’t hypocrites. You know, this country is supposed to be land of free, home of brave. I was scared that smart Americans weren’t hypocrites, but instead were hallucinating. I am very happy to hear they’re just hypocrites. Hypocrisy much less scary than mass hallucination.”

 
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  1. Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    Is this guy's aunt related to the Indian woman who reported the Romanian/Gay/Asian/Black Council of Human Rights meeting on the IRT a couple of weeks ago? or the woman who reported the verbal abuse a Polish woman and her child experienced on a London bus a week ago?

    All of these anecdotes sound the same, and are similarly far fetched.

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    The tweeter is Christopher Hitchens' son by his first wife, Eleni Meleagrou.

    He is a think tank researcher on terrorism and jihad.

    http://icsr.info/about-us-2/staff/alexander-meleagrou-hitchens-research-fellow/

    Replies: @5371

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    That will make an excellent addition to the Oxford Anthology of Things That Never Happened.

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Anonymous

    There's definitely an attempt to construct a narrative here. It's 'no blacks, no dogs, no Irish' in real time and I'd wager the majority of these (graffiti etc) are the work of the left.

    All helps to delegitimise Brexit and prepare the grounds for non-implementation.

    , @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Even if that actually happened, which it probably did not, that doesn't mean Brexit a net bad thing or that the elites should try to veto it.

    , @woodNfish
    @Anonymous

    Greek is a nationality, not a race so telling a Greek to get out of your country is not racist. Nationalist maybe, and that is a good thing, but not racist. Islam is a religion, so telling Muslims to get out is also not racist. Don't let the LLSM confuse you with their lies.

    , @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I call utter bullshit.

    This is Eleni Melagrou, so presumably it was her sister who was allegedly targeted. If they look anything alike then I seriously doubt many (any?) British people would even recognise her as Greek at all. Would they even assume she wasn't British?

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9G577NPmk5w/UbhfzoowGMI/AAAAAAAAAwM/1ITNRpElAUw/s1600/Eleni-has-an-ambivalent-relationship-with-Cyprus.jpg

    And given the vast, vibrant non-white London population and the blatant, obvious target they represent, why on earth would someone single out someone almost indistinguishable from the indigenous population?

    We're being asked to believe that some 'racist' walking down the street faced with numerous Jamaicans, Asians hijab wearing Africans and Arabs etc and somehow chose to focus on a white woman for 'abuse'.

    Utter, utter bullshit.

  2. I wonder if Julia Ioffe and Cathy Young ever hang out, since they are both female Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union. I do think the more recent Jewish immigrants from the former USSR tend to be more socialistic and elitist than the “huddled masses” that came a century ago. The net effect is that they won’t want to restrict immigration (because they benefited from it) but at the same time they don’t think that they will ever have to pay for it, since they are by nature card carrying members of the white elite.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @SPMoore8

    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team. Having them in positions where they influence American-Russian relations would be like having militantly pro-IRA Irish-Americans, who immigrated from Northern Ireland as kids, now in charge of US-British relations.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @snorlax

    , @Larry, San Francisco
    @SPMoore8

    No, I know a lot of Russian Jews. All of them hate communism and most are not overly fond of leftists or NAMS. If they had gone to Israel they most would have joined Avigdor Lieberman's party which is to the right of Likud. I guess some of their children could have been brainwashed in school though. They are quite a contrast to the grandchildren of 1900 emigres.
    I think it is interesting that there are some southern CA Jewish intellectuals who are not fans of increasing migration. You could include Dennis Prager and even Dr Drew (who usually agrees with Adam Carolla). I guess having real world experience of what mass immigration is like makes a difference.
    When I was a kid, I knew a lot of Jews and Swedes who lived on the south side of Chicago and were forced to flee their neighborhoods like Steve's father in law. They were the only Jews/Scandinavians I knew who were Nixon supporters.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charlesz Martel

  3. Stephen Miller’s most recent boss was Senator Jeff Sessions who has been the best Senator on immigration and trade. He worked there a few years before moving to the Donald Trump campaign. The Trump campaign had better start raising money for TV advertising or it will be left in the dust. It seems Trump doesn’t have much cash lying around. His money is all tied up.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Clyde

    He just raised $11 million last week and is trying to do the same this week before the end of the 2nd quarter. If you are a supporter please donate

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

  4. She intends to insinuate that the young staffer is some kind of Goebbels / Father Coughlin / Huey Long enemy.

    The irony is that he looks like a Bolshevik commissar or NKVD operative.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Anonymous

    I think those were the kinds of people not trusted with firearms or powerful positions as the Soviet Union moved into the '60s and '70s. Their children and grandchildren are still around though. Some of them probably write opinion pieces for foreign policy magazines.

    Replies: @Flip

  5. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    Is this guy’s aunt related to the Indian woman who reported the Romanian/Gay/Asian/Black Council of Human Rights meeting on the IRT a couple of weeks ago? or the woman who reported the verbal abuse a Polish woman and her child experienced on a London bus a week ago?

    All of these anecdotes sound the same, and are similarly far fetched.

    • Replies: @Tom-in-VA
    @SPMoore8

    Do Jacqueline Woodhouse or Emma West have alibis?

    Replies: @andy russia

  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Miller is a good public speaker and an asset to the Trump campaign as a force multiplier. Therefore he gets “the treatment” from the opposition.

    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.

    1. We know the Establishment lies to us about everything. 2. Therefore why trust their polling?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Every election is different etc. but I am automatically skeptical of falling for "polls are skewed" talk considering what happened in 2012.

    The one thing that could maybe work in Trump's favor is the high % of "other" votes right now, which most likely will not be the case on Election Day.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @GOUSAAmer114
    @Anonymous

    Speaking of polls, I want to ask the forum:

    In the national NBC/WSJ poll, (which had Trump down 39-38 in a four person race), the sample voted for Obama 42%, Romney 31%. Obama only won the 2012 election by 4 points, not by 11.

    In the just released PPP state polls, in each one, the sample voted significantly more for Obama than what actually happened. For instance, in PA, PPP's sample voted 50% Obama, 40% Romney. In actuality, Obama won the state by 5.5%, not 10%. Same thing with all of the other state polls. If you correct for this one factor, Trump is +0.5% in PA, tied in OH, +1% in IA, +0.5% in NH, -5 in WI, +7 in AZ.

    So my question is: Is this just bias, or is it something else? Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won? This seems to be what a pollster might say. Is it believable or is it bias? Other reasons could include older GOP voters dying off.

    Would love to hear thoughts!

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Ed, @Lot

    , @woodNfish
    @Anonymous


    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.
     
    Why should I care if ignorant grubers continue to believe the LLSM and government lies? It will just make their agony when Trump wins and they crash and burn that much more enjoyable. F all the traitors!
  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Trump shifts immigration plan: No ‘mass deportations’”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn’t issue mass deportations if he became president.

    “President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it’s never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody,” Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.

    Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations, as he has called for in the past, Trump said, “No, I would not call it mass deportations.

    “We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you,” Trump said.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    @Anonymous

    "No, I would not call it mass deportations" is a bit different from saying "no mass deportations."

    Trump also said:


    "I have never liked the media term ‘mass deportation’ — but we must enforce the laws of the land!”
     
    Sounds like Trump is moving to a "attrition through enforcement" strategy.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anoni

    , @Lot
    @Anonymous

    No "mass deportations" are needed. Our system already handles hundreds of thousands of deportations per year. And hundreds of thousands more voluntarily self deport, a number that would grow with stronger employer sanctions.

    We can and should do better, but the problem is 90% the pace of the inflow.

    , @Bill
    @Anonymous

    Why doesn't he just promise to put a bunch of business owners, corporate executives, and random homeowners in prison for employing illegal aliens? Stage sting operations in front of the Santa Monica Home Depot (or whatever the gathering place is for day laborers in Santa Monica). Bring RICO cases against WalMart and against REITs who hire illegal-staffed cleaning firms to clean their office buildings. This would solve the problem in about five minutes. Once rich people grokked that they stood a chance of going to prison for employing illegals, nobody would employ illegals. Then they will self-deport. Easy.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    Trump needs to get better and be on the offensive.

    The "get rid of a lot of bad dudes" line is very good. But most of the rest is pablum and comes across as back peddling from the accusation of being "mean". Trump isn't going to duck that tag, he already was mean. (And the media's going to make sure "mean" is hung around his neck.) His spin needs to be more "pay any price bear any burden" to make things better for *Americans*

    Trump should push forward. Immigration moratorium. Explain we've had immigration waves, then immigration troughs which allowed assimilation. (Our 50s, 60s golden age was an immigration trough.) We need to tighten up now and assimilate the immigrants we already have. I think that's a big winner with Americans--even the ones who don't want to sound "mean", think immigrants should adapt to our ways not the other way around. (The ones who don't believe that are hard core Democrats, not persuadable independents.) Trump should say "assimilation" five or six times a day--make Hillary make the leftist multicultural case.

    The other thing is follow "immigration moratorium" with "and have American jobs go to American high school and college grads." Talk about "college students not finding good jobs and heading back home to live with mom and dad" and "unable to pay student loans".

    The media has lied so much about how awful, atrocious mass immigration is for Americans that there's all this low hanging fruit--heck fruit "rotting in the fields"--to be picked just pointing out how atrociously anti-American the elite consensus is. Trump needs to get busy making the case.

  8. OT: SCOTUS is trending toward a Mosby-Lynch Third World New Normal. Trump now more than ever! Read the recent Posner declaration and tremble with fear!

    Are law professors too respectful of the Supreme Court?

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/law_school_professors_need_more_practical_experience.html

  9. Julia Ioffe’s Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries. Oh well, there’s apparently still a market for this stuff.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Cagey Beast

    When The New Repubkic switched editors she's one on the journalists that left. She sent a tweet about the new magazine being all about identity and how awful that is going to be. I guess now that's she is gainfully employed she's back on that hobby horse herself.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Richard
    @Cagey Beast


    Julia Ioffe’s Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries.
     
    Steve seems to kinda like her, but I've always found Ioffe to be pretty detestable. She's too blinded by narcissism and prejudice to be a reliable commentator. Being a narcissist, she's written more than one article citing herself as a great example of how beneficial immigration is for the United States, but she actually illustrates one of the pitfalls. Immigrants come to a new country for many reasons, but commonly one of them is because they have serious grievances against their old one, and those grievances don't necessarily die in their new environment. In fact, this fresh new country of theirs can seem like a great weapon to settle some old scores back in the Old Country.

    Our cuckoo foreign policy towards Cuba is the clearest example of this phenomenon, but Ioffe has been working hard to make her tortured family history with Russia one of the defining events of the Russo-American relationship. Probably 80% of her journalistic oeuvre is devoted to trying to ratchet up tensions between Russia and the United States, with the ultimate goal the destruction of Vladimir Putin and the social groups he represents. Why some white kids in Dubuque (the weapon to be used against Slavic Russia, even though she clearly doesn't like those WASPs either) should care about these faraway ethnic squabbles is a problem Ioffe is too self-absorbed to contemplate.

    If you want Ioffe in a nutshell, her fabulously titled "The Russians Think I'm a Russophobe? They're Right: A Response to Myself" is maybe the key text because it contains so much subtext. Despite considering herself a lucky acquisition for us in other venues, Ioffe concedes here that she doesn't know or care a great deal about America. It's all Russia in her world. The last couple paragraphs in particular are more self-revealing than she consciously intended.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/116586/russians-think-im-russophobic-theyre-right-response-self
    , @AnotherDad
    @Cagey Beast


    Julia Ioffe’s Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries.
     
    And yet ... they *never* leave for their own nation.

    Bitch, whine, wreck, yell, accuse, bitch, moan, destroy, lie, pout, break, complain ... and yet demand to live with us nasty goys, when they do not have to. What can possibly explain it?
  10. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    The tweeter is Christopher Hitchens’ son by his first wife, Eleni Meleagrou.

    He is a think tank researcher on terrorism and jihad.

    http://icsr.info/about-us-2/staff/alexander-meleagrou-hitchens-research-fellow/

    • Replies: @5371
    @PiltdownMan

    Not surprised to learn that Christopher Hitchens preferred women to look like men.

    Replies: @Pat Gilligan, @Percy Gryce

  11. @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    Is this guy's aunt related to the Indian woman who reported the Romanian/Gay/Asian/Black Council of Human Rights meeting on the IRT a couple of weeks ago? or the woman who reported the verbal abuse a Polish woman and her child experienced on a London bus a week ago?

    All of these anecdotes sound the same, and are similarly far fetched.

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

    Do Jacqueline Woodhouse or Emma West have alibis?

    • Replies: @andy russia
    @Tom-in-VA

    has Emma West got her kids back?

  12. Man, that Duke lacrosse case seems so long ago — long enough ago, in fact, that back then Jon Stewart was honest enough to lampoon the case (and especially Nancy Grace) after the players were exonerated.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Carbon blob

    Man, that must've been a long time ago. Stewart couldn't wait to jettison the last of this credibility to become the glib, cowardly, snarky, shallow purveyor of all leftist propaganda.

    I think the crowning moment for him was when in 2010 he (and his butt-buddy Colbert) got so incensed that the Dems were about to get blown out in the Congressional midterms and that Glenn Beck had led a rally just for that purpose that Stewart organized his own rally to "parody" Beck's. In reality, it was simply a leftist counter-rally to attempt to diminish the coming non-Leftist victory.

    What a corporate Leftist whore that second-rate comedian is.

  13. Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like “wow, when she’s being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense.” Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.

    As I’ve written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it’s normal even though they all know it’s not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Hepp

    That's pretty funny.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Hepp

    This reminds me of a tweet storm by Ross Douthat a few hours ago, and the lefty reactions to it.
    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/747585952760078336

    See the responses by Adam Ozimek ("Modeled Behavior", for example). Game of Thrones spoilers in the thread, so avoid if you haven't watched this season yet and plan to. But the tl;dr is that one character was irrationally hated more by lefties basically because he espoused some traditional Christian values (in favor of helping the poor, against homosexuality, etc.).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @shk12344, @guest

    , @AnotherDad
    @Hepp


    ... That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it’s normal even though they all know it’s not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. ...
     
    I must be Russian.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    , @guest
    @Hepp

    I'm surprised at how weakly she describes what she'd take to be the true motivations mistaken by Putin. "Historical striving for tolerance?" Political correctness is "about acceptance?" Pablum. (At least she tacitly admits PC exists.) They can't do better than that? I've noticed lately they've stopped bothering to justify PCism. They just assert it. It's not something that needs to be explained or sold. It's just the Truth, and if you can't see that you're crazy like Hitler.

  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country.

    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    We’d all be better off though if the Stephen Millers and Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics and stuck to being dentists and homemakers making briskets instead.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Anonymous


    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers ... stayed out of politics ...
     
    If this Jew Miller puts his ass on the line and helps Trump get elected, it'll be a lot more done for the common good we all claim to espouse than the non-actions of some whining anon who's done nothing to advance the campaign.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jack Hanson, @Bill

    , @Lot
    @Anonymous


    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.
     
    Man, you figured out the plan! You see, ten years ago, when Miller was a 19 year old student at Duke, we assigned him to "get in front" of right wing populism, which in 2006 was booming. He eagerly obeyed, knowing that writing articles doubting that white college students gang-raped a black stripper would make him popular on campus and help his future career prospects, maybe even get him a job in the Alberto Gonzalez's DOJ.

    Getting him onto Jeff Sessions' staff, well that was easy for a cunning cabal such as ours.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    , @Big Bill
    @Anonymous

    Sales 101: Find an underserved market and sell to it. The nationalist right has been limited to white goy spokesmen. With Miller they have a chance to see Jewish powers of persuasion and rhetoric and are impressed.

    This phenomenon (preference for the superior race) screwed local black businessmen. Drove 'em crazy. When Jim Crow was eliminated, black folks stopped patronizing local black businesses and started patronizing white businesses because white folks' stuff was better in some indefinable way. Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way 'round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty. Elizabeth Wright discussed this post-WWII phenomenon at length and how it was the death knell for black bankers, lawyers, accountants, stores, and other businesses.

    Young Jews see an underserved sales/rhetoric/policy market and make the leap. Miller now, but before him Ben Shapiro, and before him, bunches of young Jews who saw the huge career opportunities in neo-connery.

    And let's be honest: they are good. By the time Miller was in college he had a few dozen radio and TV appearances (likewise Shapiro). As Jews, they have the intelligence, the gift of gab, the rhetorical chops, the drive and the ambition to become the leaders of the nationalist right. Think of them as pioneers. Much to gain, little to lose.

    Further, Miller's presence (and the presence of other Jews) in Trump's inner circle will go far in allaying Jewish fears. With plenty of Jewish advisors around the Prince, it is far less likely he will go do something stupid (from a Jewish perspective). More Jewish money into Trump's campaign coffers.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ed

    , @Unz Reader
    @Anonymous

    I for one am happy that Stephen Miller got into politics, since he is on the right side of the issues. I'd be happy if Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics.

  15. @SPMoore8
    I wonder if Julia Ioffe and Cathy Young ever hang out, since they are both female Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union. I do think the more recent Jewish immigrants from the former USSR tend to be more socialistic and elitist than the "huddled masses" that came a century ago. The net effect is that they won't want to restrict immigration (because they benefited from it) but at the same time they don't think that they will ever have to pay for it, since they are by nature card carrying members of the white elite.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Larry, San Francisco

    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team. Having them in positions where they influence American-Russian relations would be like having militantly pro-IRA Irish-Americans, who immigrated from Northern Ireland as kids, now in charge of US-British relations.

    • Agree: Spmoore8, syonredux
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Cagey Beast


    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team.

     
    In my moments of naive absent-mindedness, I wonder why our newspapers' op-ed pages depend on a mere three or four Russian emigres—with seemingly permanent column-inch franchises—to explain to us what is happening over there in Russia.

    After all, it is 2016, there is no Iron Curtain, and there are many highly qualified Russian political scientists and observers over there, a mere email away, who can write well in English and explain matters and their point of view with depth and nuance.

    Trump should sharpen his sword and go after our entrenched globalist/hegemonic foreign policy elite that controls the extent and terms of all public debate. Hillary is one of them and it will work well as a tactic.
    , @snorlax
    @Cagey Beast

    That basically was the case w/ Ted Kennedy during the Carter and Clinton admins. (Carter even marched in the '76 NYC St. Paddy's Day parade wearing an "England Get Out of Ireland" pin).

    (Full disclosure: I am ~3/8s Irish-American and could not care less about the NI inanity).

    Last I checked, Masha Gessen and Max Boot (no, not a fan) are not actually in charge of US-Russian relations, but rather are pundits whom hardly anyone reads. I would guess that Masha Gessen's fame amongst Steve Sailer readers is at least 1000x greater than amongst the general public, and 10x than amongst State Department employees.

    To the extent they do have readers, it's because Americans, quite rightly, and as has been the case for some time, view Russia as an enemy. Not because they lead the Secret Jew Conspiracy to trick Americans into thinking such.

    If Putin were a friend to Americans, he would not be pointing thousands of nuclear missiles at us. If he were only an enemy of D.C. neocons but a friend of farm boys in Dubuque, then he would not be threatening the extermination of all Iowan life. Like, duh.

    When a country threatens the nuclear annihilation of America, that's as clear as signals come (besides actually launching the missiles) that their intentions are not friendly, but rather hostile.

    Likewise, a country that has for seven decades maintained an elaborate system, at a cost of many billions of dollars a year, even through a period of national default, hyperinflation and mass starvation, for the extermination of every person of European descent on Earth, is not a friend of said people.

    For those who've started furiously typing away — you can spare me the whataboutism diatribe. First of all I've heard it already, second of all it's totally irrelevant. If someone points a gun at me, that person is my enemy, period. This is instinctively understood by everyone. It does not matter if I'm pointing a gun at him, or who did what first, or if he has grievances, or if his grievances are legitimate.

    People who threaten me with death are my enemy, period. If they feel they have grievances towards me that makes them even more my enemy, because then they're more likely to pull the trigger.

    Friends do not threaten each other with death. For example, Japan is our friend. Why is Japan our friend? A big part of why is that Japan does not build thousands of nuclear missiles so as to threaten the extermination of all American life, and we return the favor.

    Note that we have now and in the past had our differences with Japan. In fact, in the very recent past we have had much deeper and more profound differences with Japan than we've ever had with Russia, yet they were able to get over it, as well as getting over the loss of their strategic anti-invasion buffer zones, rightful spheres of influence, leadership of similar-language-speakers, etc.

    In fact, nowadays we're perennially begging the Japanese to be more aggressive and militaristic, while Japanese people with anti-American views insist on strict pacifism.

    It's funny how things go when you're not threatening us with death. You can present a much deeper threat to the Powers That Be, for example. The Japanese are far more "alt-right" than the Russians will ever be, and are actually a success story, whereas the Russians are a story of a people who, despite being 100 I.Q.* whites, have somehow managed to create a society even more violent, dysfunctional and corrupt than that of American blacks.

    If you're an American or European, you shouldn't even want Russia promoting your political views, whatever they are. To normal people it looks like an endorsement from a combination Osama bin Laden and Honey Boo Boo.

    *minus a few points for alcoholism and emigration

    Replies: @5371, @Anonym

  16. ” The Jackson-Vanik act had singled out Jews from the Soviet Union for special immigration preferences:”

    Why did we let anybody come here from the the former Soviet Union? We won the cold war spending a ton of money and when they lose they get to come here?

    Let them sort their own country out.

    Immigration must stop.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ttjy

    There should have been some conditions for their admittance, like restricting them to dentistry, medicine, or working for NASA or something.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Ttjy

    I'll take more Russians and Ukrainians over the immigrants we are actually getting from Mexico, China, and Africa, any day.

    We could choose,of course, to let nobody settle here. But I'd gladly take Russians and Europeans -- meaning white non-Jewish Russians and Europeans.

    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians. Nonmuslim russian fertility rate is around replacement level at best, while Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren't going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @AP

  17. @Anonymous

    She intends to insinuate that the young staffer is some kind of Goebbels / Father Coughlin / Huey Long enemy.
     
    The irony is that he looks like a Bolshevik commissar or NKVD operative.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    I think those were the kinds of people not trusted with firearms or powerful positions as the Soviet Union moved into the ’60s and ’70s. Their children and grandchildren are still around though. Some of them probably write opinion pieces for foreign policy magazines.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Cagey Beast

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many "Abrahamoviches" in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Bill, @Cagey Beast, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

  18. America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Tiny Duck

    Looks like tiny duck has upped his game

    , @Jack D
    @Tiny Duck

    Is that you, Leonard Pitts?

    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article85128137.html


    The grass is always greener on the other side - while black guys imagine that white men have "entitlement", it seems to me that being white alone doesn't entitle you to much of anything and it never really did. I guess it "entitled" you to fight in Normandy and do 25 missions in a B-17 and other such fun things. I remember when I was growing up, it entitled my best friend's uncle to be represented as a little plaque in front of the courthouse instead of breathing because he died in some foxhole in Korea.

    Replies: @Anton

    , @Jean Cocteausten
    @Tiny Duck

    You are one of an army of erudite, unwitting apologists for global neoliberalism.

    Americans became tired of being chained to a treadmill in order to afford the piles of consumer goods that must be sold each year to keep corporations profitable. So new consumers must be created.

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end - because the demand for more profit never ends.

    How does it feel to be the intellectual vanguard for the likes of Wal-Mart, Disney and General Motors?

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Thea, @Antonymous

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tiny Duck

    Eloquent first comment, Vince! Welcome to the conversation.


    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.
     
    One quibble regarding the immortality of ideas: Nothing lasts forever.
    , @5371
    @Tiny Duck

    [a nation that grows more sexually ... diverse with every sunrise]

    But how can that be? Don't you know that all homos are Born This Way?

    , @Salger
    @Tiny Duck

    How come so many South American nations are lower than Japan even though the former are way more diverse?

    , @Stogumber
    @Tiny Duck

    Dear Mr. Rizzo,
    you said that Whites fear a loss of "privilege".
    I'd say that Whites fear a loss of their jobs, their homes, their cars, protection from criminality and enough money to afford a family.
    All this should not, and need not, be a "privilege". It definitely wasn't a White privilege in the times when America or Europe was "great".
    A sane Left would not try to take these goods away - or shame Whites for to cling to them -, but concentrate on how non-White immigrants can arrive at the same level as Whites.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    , @anon
    @Tiny Duck

    You managed to take every leftist talking point we've heard for years, and make it sound like a speech by some sort of ominous politician in a superhero movie.

    I'm not sure that's what you were going for, but if it was, well done.

    , @Brutusale
    @Tiny Duck

    The Montessori school vice-principal has made his feelings known.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill

    , @Anonymous
    @Tiny Duck

    white south africa is your future. The real sin of apartheid was not racial discrimination, which the ANC gov indulges in against whites. It was that whites were frank about what it takes to survive as a white tribe in africa

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Charlesz Martel
    @Tiny Duck

    You are assuming that current trends will continue.
    Lots of Vietnamese of Chinese ethnicity thought so too. I'm sure that was mych discussed as they bobbed around the South China Sea.

    "Asians" in Uganda thought so too.

    There is absolutely no reason why a future immigration policy could not be all-white, as Australia's used to be. Bring in 100 million whites over 30 years, deport illegals and their children on the legal principles that a thief cannot convey good title and that Mexico considers them citizens (make dual citizenship illegal too) and the "inevitability" doesn't look so inevitable.

    An absurd concept? Yeah, like Brexit was absurd.

    The White race is awakening.

    Alternatively, demand reciprocity. 30 million plus "Mexicans" in the US? Demand Mexico grant full dual citizenship to 30 million white Norteamericanos. They can vote in a Mexican election to seize part of Mexico. That's basically where Texas came from.

    There are all sorts of intriguing possibilities. Not all involve submission or bloodshed.

    , @Antonymous
    @Tiny Duck


    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.
     

    So here's where your idea turns bad: the Declaration of Independence stated "all men are created equal" in relation to God -- "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights." The founders sought to emulate the Christian ideal of an ever-loving God with their concept of blind justice and equal rights for citizens. All men equal under God and the justice system -- too quaint for the modern era apparently and a far cry from your disparate impact analysis, which damns the very descendants of those who built the nation.

    Equality under the law is guaranteed, while equality of outcomes is not. While you seek to blame "privilege" and discrimination for the latter inequality, you should note the only laws that enshrine discrimination are as follows: Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact jurisprudence, and Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.

    Replies: @Antonymous, @Anton

    , @AnotherDad
    @Tiny Duck


    America’s problem is fear ...
     
    My problem is realism.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  19. @Hepp
    Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like "wow, when she's being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense." Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.


    As I've written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it's normal even though they all know it's not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

     

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @guest

    That’s pretty funny.

    • Agree: BB753
  20. @Ttjy
    " The Jackson-Vanik act had singled out Jews from the Soviet Union for special immigration preferences:"

    Why did we let anybody come here from the the former Soviet Union? We won the cold war spending a ton of money and when they lose they get to come here?


    Let them sort their own country out.


    Immigration must stop.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

    There should have been some conditions for their admittance, like restricting them to dentistry, medicine, or working for NASA or something.

  21. @SPMoore8
    I wonder if Julia Ioffe and Cathy Young ever hang out, since they are both female Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union. I do think the more recent Jewish immigrants from the former USSR tend to be more socialistic and elitist than the "huddled masses" that came a century ago. The net effect is that they won't want to restrict immigration (because they benefited from it) but at the same time they don't think that they will ever have to pay for it, since they are by nature card carrying members of the white elite.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Larry, San Francisco

    No, I know a lot of Russian Jews. All of them hate communism and most are not overly fond of leftists or NAMS. If they had gone to Israel they most would have joined Avigdor Lieberman’s party which is to the right of Likud. I guess some of their children could have been brainwashed in school though. They are quite a contrast to the grandchildren of 1900 emigres.
    I think it is interesting that there are some southern CA Jewish intellectuals who are not fans of increasing migration. You could include Dennis Prager and even Dr Drew (who usually agrees with Adam Carolla). I guess having real world experience of what mass immigration is like makes a difference.
    When I was a kid, I knew a lot of Jews and Swedes who lived on the south side of Chicago and were forced to flee their neighborhoods like Steve’s father in law. They were the only Jews/Scandinavians I knew who were Nixon supporters.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    @Larry, San Francisco

    I generally agree, I knew many Soviet Jews back in the '70s, they seemed mostly secular and conservative, sort of like Max Boot but basically keeping their heads down in order to get by. People like Young and Ioffe come across as the Soviet equivalent of red diaper babies. I wonder now how rare they are.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Larry, San Francisco

    My experience is the same as Larry. Soviet Jews from the post-1980s exodus are probably among the most politically conservative Jews in America, virulently pro-Israel, and often hold very negative feelings towards African-Americans. They tend to be from provincial (and often Ukrainian) cities like Zhitomir or Odessa. Ioffe and Masha Gessen are both from Moscow and I believe their families moved in elite artistic/creative circles back in the USSR. Once elite, always elite.

    , @Charlesz Martel
    @Larry, San Francisco

    A surprising amount of Jews thought that Nixon was very good on Israel. When he basically replenished their arms during the Yom Kippur war in 73; and then went to a low-level nuclear alert when Brezhnev threatened to get involved militarily to save the encircled Egyptian Third Army and told Brezhnev to basically fuck off, many felt thay he may have saved Israel.
    Only fucking ingrate liberal Jews would forget that. Those who didn't have their heads up their ass (admittedly, and sadly, a minority of American Jews) never will forget that.

  22. Yeah, the Goebbels allusion was fairly well crafted, as political hit pieces go. The theme fell apart when she couldn’t find anything in his past with which to Richwine him. He comes across as a bright, mainstream conservative with the balls to make the case against mass immigration.

    But I guess that’s the point of the article; you’re not allowed to have the megaphone. To paraphrase Sailer, “the first rule of the white club is to never question mass immigration.”

  23. @Clyde
    Stephen Miller's most recent boss was Senator Jeff Sessions who has been the best Senator on immigration and trade. He worked there a few years before moving to the Donald Trump campaign. The Trump campaign had better start raising money for TV advertising or it will be left in the dust. It seems Trump doesn't have much cash lying around. His money is all tied up.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    He just raised $11 million last week and is trying to do the same this week before the end of the 2nd quarter. If you are a supporter please donate

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @iSteveFan


    He just raised $11 million last week and is trying to do the same this week before the end of the 2nd quarter. If you are a supporter please donate
     
    I'm in a bit of a tight spot, financially, for the next three weeks or so, but rest assured, I will be donating generously to the Trump campaign, beginning sometime in July. I hope a bunch of y'all will join me in that (I'm sure more than a few of you already have).
  24. Stephen Miller is like a straight Milo Yiannopolis with more political ambition and an extra 10 IQ points. Ann was right to be happy to have him on the Trump Train. Now Trump just has to read his stuff.

    This, from Ioffe’s article, was kind of funny:

    The way the school taught American history, focusing too much on the bad and not enough on the heroic, also insulted Miller’s patriotism. Should American soldiers have not killed Indians or anyone else? Miller asked, rhetorically. “Or, better yet, we could have lived with the Indians, learning how to finger paint and make tepees, excusing their scalping of frontiersmen as part of their culture,” Miller griped.

    Combine that with the pacifist response of the school to 9/11 and teachers’ critiques of the war in Afghanistan, and, Miller concluded, “Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School.”

    Manhattan is about as far left as Santa Monica, but the smell of death after 9/11 tamped down the antiwar stuff for a while. If memory serves, it probably wasn’t until late 2003, after the insurgency in Iraq flared up, that the antiwar left perked up in Manhattan.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen


    Manhattan is about as far left as Santa Monica
     
    I thought Santa Monica might be further left, but turns out you are right on the nose there, both were about 84% Obama. I would have thought the only people in SM not voting for Obama are Mickey Kaus and a few employees of the Rand Corporation.

    Replies: @JsP

  25. A much better historical comparison could be made: Miller is like Samuel Gompers, the Jewish American labor leader who fought hard for immigration restriction in the 1920s. But this would be too much to expect from professional victim, Julia Ioffe.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @JohnnyD

    He's the real life Saul Goldman! http://turtledove.wikia.com/wiki/Saul_Goldman_(Southern_Victory)

    , @Richard
    @JohnnyD


    A much better historical comparison could be made: Miller is like Samuel Gompers, the Jewish American labor leader who fought hard for immigration restriction in the 1920s. But this would be too much to expect from professional victim, Julia Ioffe.
     
    Julia knows very little about American history, Jewish or otherwise, because she has almost no interest in it. It's Russia that fires her mind.
  26. What’s wrong with Michelle Bachmann? She’s female so she should be above reproach. Woman good, Man bad.

  27. @Hepp
    Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like "wow, when she's being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense." Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.


    As I've written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it's normal even though they all know it's not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

     

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @guest

    This reminds me of a tweet storm by Ross Douthat a few hours ago, and the lefty reactions to it.

    See the responses by Adam Ozimek (“Modeled Behavior”, for example). Game of Thrones spoilers in the thread, so avoid if you haven’t watched this season yet and plan to. But the tl;dr is that one character was irrationally hated more by lefties basically because he espoused some traditional Christian values (in favor of helping the poor, against homosexuality, etc.).

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Dave Pinsen

    what a tool...loser. Give me a modern day Christian for Douthat to attack - oops! don't wanna be feelin,' I gotta give it up'. I am just amazed how much intelligent people are willing (have been) to hurl slurs at each other over the next 8 months (more like 20 years). Because I am a pessimist (politically) I believe someone like Donald will be killed - the left has shown to be much more bloodthirsty, much more devious, much more scary than the right! - ha- soooo fracking funny!

    I have tons of videos in my collection of odious people hurting-on/assaulting people at Trump rallies. I have no respect for all the MSM networks...they are all colluding...but (as far as their salary & benefits) the foot soldiers, well, they need to ask if after this election, their job is over - they worked hard and for what???. Even if their candidate wins, they're still serfs. Whoops! - "can't afford the mortgage of that house I thought was solid?

    Whatever. Bring it on, but lose the GOT analogy. SWPL ARE the watchers of GOF, btw. Whadda bunch of youts!

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @shk12344
    @Dave Pinsen

    The TV High Sparrow has nothing in common with the Book High Sparrow. TV show portrays him as a religious zealot, while the book sparrow is written up as a master political player. There is nothing in the book that suggest High sparrow has problem with homosexuality.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

    , @guest
    @Dave Pinsen

    They ought to have liked the Sparrow, who was, or appeared to be, a radical egalitarian. But the show hit us over the head with Sex Stuff, as usual, and all anyone will remember about him is that he didn't like gays.

  28. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    Looks like tiny duck has upped his game

  29. who really cares? most talking heads are not affected by any policies. As far as Brexit, talking right now, as an EU citizen, Americans need to STFU! The American economy and people/their culture in every U.S. state, are instrumental in keeping the rest of the world alive once again!

    Look at Europe or just England: UK is strangely, fucked-uppily, going through something like the AMERICAN REVOLUTION in 1776…so weird.

    I kid you not. Also, I am very good with math/numbers…so, yeah, Brexit, whatever. Everyone must just except the fact that people are tribal. Everyone wants universal decent lifestyles…so, yeah, who pays for that if many people can not contribute?

  30. @Cagey Beast
    @SPMoore8

    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team. Having them in positions where they influence American-Russian relations would be like having militantly pro-IRA Irish-Americans, who immigrated from Northern Ireland as kids, now in charge of US-British relations.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @snorlax

    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team.

    In my moments of naive absent-mindedness, I wonder why our newspapers’ op-ed pages depend on a mere three or four Russian emigres—with seemingly permanent column-inch franchises—to explain to us what is happening over there in Russia.

    After all, it is 2016, there is no Iron Curtain, and there are many highly qualified Russian political scientists and observers over there, a mere email away, who can write well in English and explain matters and their point of view with depth and nuance.

    Trump should sharpen his sword and go after our entrenched globalist/hegemonic foreign policy elite that controls the extent and terms of all public debate. Hillary is one of them and it will work well as a tactic.

  31. @Anonymous
    "Trump shifts immigration plan: No 'mass deportations'"

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn't issue mass deportations if he became president.

    "President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it's never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody," Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.

    Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations, as he has called for in the past, Trump said, "No, I would not call it mass deportations.

    "We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you," Trump said.
     

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Lot, @Bill, @AnotherDad

    “No, I would not call it mass deportations” is a bit different from saying “no mass deportations.”

    Trump also said:

    “I have never liked the media term ‘mass deportation’ — but we must enforce the laws of the land!”

    Sounds like Trump is moving to a “attrition through enforcement” strategy.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Glaivester

    How about "evil mass deportations of undocumented American strivers" - Donald Trump , are you in favor of those? Trump is not an idiot and is not going to let reporters lead him around by the nose.

    , @Anoni
    @Glaivester

    Attrition through enforcement is the better way to do it. Especially if enforcement means correctly interpreting the amendment so that children of illegals are not citizens. Then enforce everything like Arizona and the vast majority of the problem is solved. We aren't going to be able to put together a force that will drag everybody out of their house. But we can make it impossible to earn a living.

    Replies: @guest

  32. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    Is that you, Leonard Pitts?

    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article85128137.html

    The grass is always greener on the other side – while black guys imagine that white men have “entitlement”, it seems to me that being white alone doesn’t entitle you to much of anything and it never really did. I guess it “entitled” you to fight in Normandy and do 25 missions in a B-17 and other such fun things. I remember when I was growing up, it entitled my best friend’s uncle to be represented as a little plaque in front of the courthouse instead of breathing because he died in some foxhole in Korea.

    • Replies: @Anton
    @Jack D

    I agree and the same goes for whites, which sometimes seem to thing that being a minority entails all sort of privileges earned for nothing less than being victim status.
    Of course not being considered a full titled citizen entails some privileges in matter of forced draft, but that is irrilevant.
    Women also didn't have to fight and had some benevolent sexism toward them. So benevolent racism also existed. But I don't see it as an argument against the oppression presence in past and I don't assume it is.

  33. JsP says:

    Samohi class of ’03 here.

    The people’s republic of Santa Monica doesn’t begin to describe it for anyone who hasn’t lived in a place like SM.

    we did a student poll for the 2000 election and it was Gore first, Nader a strong second, and bush a distant third.

    The humanities/social studies type teachers were as bad in high school as any left wing college.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @JsP

    According to an HS student I know here in the burbs of NorCal, his mostly white school would vote about the same as your '03.

    The upcoming generation that pays attention in school is reeeeeaally left wing. The slackers and drop-outs are our only hope.

  34. I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @International Jew


    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

     

    Certainly a lot better looking than Masha Gessen.

    Replies: @Parsifal

    , @Kylie
    @International Jew

    "I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!"

    Good. Keep her occupied so she can't write or talk.

    By any means necessary. :)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @AnotherDad

    , @PiltdownMan
    @International Jew


    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!
     
    Googling reveals more than one person who fits your fervent description.
    , @AndrewR
    @International Jew

    She is attractive for her age but she is a clear example of why women should be seen and not heard.

    , @Cagey Beast
    @International Jew

    It's true she is. Here she is discussing Europe, Russia and a lot of us here in this comments section:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gMooKDgNzA

    It all feels so pointless to even engage with such people. They seem to have cultivated a remarkable ability not to get anyone else's position on these matters.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @AnotherDad
    @International Jew


    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!
     
    You go for it IJ. A firm manly hand on her backside as foreplay. Put a baby or two or three or four in her so she has something productive to do ... and *maybe* you'll get her attitude adjusted.

    (I wouldn't call her "hot", but Julia--unlike Kate Crawford--is actually distinctly better than average looking. If her pictures on-line are recent then she's definitely holding up better than the typical 30+ gal.)

    It's a damn shame that these gals with good genes spend their time on punditry when they have absolutely nothing useful to say, and could be doing what nature meant them to be doing which is actually necessary and productive. (There are plenty of 20-30 something Jewish men who can do annoying, tedious, anti-gentile, anti-nationalist commentary. It's not an "underserved" occupation.)

    , @BB753
    @International Jew

    When did "hot" come to mean "not ugly"? Gentlemen, raise your standards!

    Replies: @Brutusale

  35. The Jewish immigration restrictionist intellectuals from Southern California such as David Horowitz, Mickey Kaus, and various low-key friends of Ann Coulter tend to be aware that the kind of immigration policies that are good for Israelis would also be good for Americans.

    Or you might say: (R(David Horowitz)R) (R(Mickey Kaus)R) and (R(various low-key friends)R) of Ann Coulter….

    I think if you look at American Jews as being like the GOP circa 2004, it makes sense. The problems are coming from the established elite, or JewE. Most rank-and-file Jews are blue-pilled folks who tend to follow the elite out of inertia or a sense of camaraderie, and then there are some red-pilled Jews who are realizing that their tribe is being led in a bad direction.

  36. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    You are one of an army of erudite, unwitting apologists for global neoliberalism.

    Americans became tired of being chained to a treadmill in order to afford the piles of consumer goods that must be sold each year to keep corporations profitable. So new consumers must be created.

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end – because the demand for more profit never ends.

    How does it feel to be the intellectual vanguard for the likes of Wal-Mart, Disney and General Motors?

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Erudite? I object. Platitudinous and cliche-ridden.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @Thea
    @Jean Cocteausten

    With neo liberalism (or globalism or leftism by any other name) the only identity that is allowed to matter is that of an atomized consumer or producer.

    Anything innate was not freely chosen (ethnicity, nationality, sex) or not developed by the individual ( religion) doesn't count as part of the allowed identity.

    So he views us all as billions of potential Walmart shoppers and nothing more. Certainly no concept of "my sweet countrymen. "

    His ilk view this as just fine.

    , @Antonymous
    @Jean Cocteausten


    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end – because the demand for more profit never ends.
     
    Agreed. I also see immigration boosters to the west cheering on "the end of extreme poverty," an innocuous and cheery-sounding statement which I take to mean removing indigenous peoples from subsistence lands. Then "they'll earn x dollars per day!" and "have access to education and medical care," yada yada, neglecting to mention their culture and traditions are based in that forest or basin wanted for timber or agriculture. Surely they'll be happier in a slum of Kinshasa than their native forestland.

    See this PR from USAID, hand in glove with global neoliberalism:

    EXTREME POVERTY OFTEN REFERS TO EARNING LESS THAN
    $1.90 per day.*

    But extreme poverty is more than just a number – it is the denial of basic freedoms and human dignity.

    People living in extreme poverty are forced to make impossible choices daily between food, medicine, housing, or education.

    USAID is committed to eradicating extreme poverty within the next 15 years.
     
  37. @Glaivester
    @Anonymous

    "No, I would not call it mass deportations" is a bit different from saying "no mass deportations."

    Trump also said:


    "I have never liked the media term ‘mass deportation’ — but we must enforce the laws of the land!”
     
    Sounds like Trump is moving to a "attrition through enforcement" strategy.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anoni

    How about “evil mass deportations of undocumented American strivers” – Donald Trump , are you in favor of those? Trump is not an idiot and is not going to let reporters lead him around by the nose.

  38. @Anonymous

    Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country.
     
    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers and Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics and stuck to being dentists and homemakers making briskets instead.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Lot, @Big Bill, @Unz Reader

    We’d all be better off though if the Stephen Millers … stayed out of politics …

    If this Jew Miller puts his ass on the line and helps Trump get elected, it’ll be a lot more done for the common good we all claim to espouse than the non-actions of some whining anon who’s done nothing to advance the campaign.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Daniel Williams

    I agree with this! I’ll admit that I’ve been critical of Jews, to the point where Steve has held certain comments of mine for a few hours. I’m not trying to be nasty, it’s just that it's freakin’ exasperating living in a constant who/whom battle with a certain talented, intelligent, often quite admirable people who sometimes brazenly work against the interests of whites (gentiles). But I also realize that of course, many Jews are true American patriots, fair minded, and defenders of freedom. So if Stephen Miller is on the up-and-up, I want him on my side.

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken. Nothing off-putting about her demeanor. In many ways, an ideal human being. And yet ungrateful that the US fast-tracked her group specifically to immigrate from Russia. And now she’s working against us here. As Trump would say, “Sad!”

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Daniel Williams

    The AltRight won't be destroyed from without, it'll be due to autists demanding 23andMe results from everybody who might want to listen to what the AR has to say.

    , @Bill
    @Daniel Williams

    Nixon said something almost exactly like this about the Neocons, as I dimly recall.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

  39. The Huffington Post also has a piece about Stephen Miller, which does even more pointing and sputtering:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-adviser-stephen-miller_us_57719571e4b0f168323aa307

  40. @Dave Pinsen
    @Hepp

    This reminds me of a tweet storm by Ross Douthat a few hours ago, and the lefty reactions to it.
    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/747585952760078336

    See the responses by Adam Ozimek ("Modeled Behavior", for example). Game of Thrones spoilers in the thread, so avoid if you haven't watched this season yet and plan to. But the tl;dr is that one character was irrationally hated more by lefties basically because he espoused some traditional Christian values (in favor of helping the poor, against homosexuality, etc.).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @shk12344, @guest

    what a tool…loser. Give me a modern day Christian for Douthat to attack – oops! don’t wanna be feelin,’ I gotta give it up’. I am just amazed how much intelligent people are willing (have been) to hurl slurs at each other over the next 8 months (more like 20 years). Because I am a pessimist (politically) I believe someone like Donald will be killed – the left has shown to be much more bloodthirsty, much more devious, much more scary than the right! – ha- soooo fracking funny!

    I have tons of videos in my collection of odious people hurting-on/assaulting people at Trump rallies. I have no respect for all the MSM networks…they are all colluding…but (as far as their salary & benefits) the foot soldiers, well, they need to ask if after this election, their job is over – they worked hard and for what???. Even if their candidate wins, they’re still serfs. Whoops! – “can’t afford the mortgage of that house I thought was solid?

    Whatever. Bring it on, but lose the GOT analogy. SWPL ARE the watchers of GOF, btw. Whadda bunch of youts!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Lagertha

    Trump is trailing in the polls, despite recent news you'd figure would have given him a tailwind (Orland, Brexit). If he starts consistently running ahead of Hillary in the polls, I would be even more worried for his safety.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Jack Hanson

  41. @Tom-in-VA
    @SPMoore8

    Do Jacqueline Woodhouse or Emma West have alibis?

    Replies: @andy russia

    has Emma West got her kids back?

  42. American political discourse basically consists of Jews arguing with other Jews, but now with the new twist of anti-Semitic Alt-Right NEETs harassing them on social media outlets like Twitter that they can’t control. It’s really pathetic and depressing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    American political discourse basically consists of Jews arguing with other Jews, but now with the new twist of anti-Semitic Alt-Right NEETs harassing them on social media outlets like Twitter that they can’t control. It’s really pathetic and depressing.

    That's a huge exaggeration. But Ashkenazis are loud and abrasive so it just seems that way.

    , @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    That's a hilarious characterization

  43. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Certainly a lot better looking than Masha Gessen.

    • Replies: @Parsifal
    @syonredux

    That's quite a low bar to clear.

  44. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    “I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!”

    Good. Keep her occupied so she can’t write or talk.

    By any means necessary. 🙂

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Kylie

    Yes. Can we just, please, have one simple summer vacation from obnoxious SJW's? The fact that they do not look good in a bathing suit, or, on a boat, even a paddle board for God's sake, should not be a reason to be so hateful and tiresome alllllll the time, all summer long. I guess they never did stupid scheisse with surfer boys (or girls, I'm thinkin; diversity) at the town bonfire at the beach. Who remembers Whipids? - spelled it wrong, for sure...found in the freezer of most Surf n' Turf restaurants, most crazy-assed laughing moments at your sh*tty job in the summer, job you needed.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Kylie

    Kylie you are a gem.

    Replies: @Kylie

  45. @Anonymous
    "Trump shifts immigration plan: No 'mass deportations'"

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn't issue mass deportations if he became president.

    "President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it's never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody," Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.

    Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations, as he has called for in the past, Trump said, "No, I would not call it mass deportations.

    "We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you," Trump said.
     

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Lot, @Bill, @AnotherDad

    No “mass deportations” are needed. Our system already handles hundreds of thousands of deportations per year. And hundreds of thousands more voluntarily self deport, a number that would grow with stronger employer sanctions.

    We can and should do better, but the problem is 90% the pace of the inflow.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  46. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Googling reveals more than one person who fits your fervent description.

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    American political discourse basically consists of Jews arguing with other Jews, but now with the new twist of anti-Semitic Alt-Right NEETs harassing them on social media outlets like Twitter that they can't control. It's really pathetic and depressing.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    American political discourse basically consists of Jews arguing with other Jews, but now with the new twist of anti-Semitic Alt-Right NEETs harassing them on social media outlets like Twitter that they can’t control. It’s really pathetic and depressing.

    That’s a huge exaggeration. But Ashkenazis are loud and abrasive so it just seems that way.

  48. Lot says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Stephen Miller is like a straight Milo Yiannopolis with more political ambition and an extra 10 IQ points. Ann was right to be happy to have him on the Trump Train. Now Trump just has to read his stuff.

    This, from Ioffe's article, was kind of funny:

    The way the school taught American history, focusing too much on the bad and not enough on the heroic, also insulted Miller’s patriotism. Should American soldiers have not killed Indians or anyone else? Miller asked, rhetorically. “Or, better yet, we could have lived with the Indians, learning how to finger paint and make tepees, excusing their scalping of frontiersmen as part of their culture,” Miller griped.

    Combine that with the pacifist response of the school to 9/11 and teachers’ critiques of the war in Afghanistan, and, Miller concluded, “Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School.”
     
    Manhattan is about as far left as Santa Monica, but the smell of death after 9/11 tamped down the antiwar stuff for a while. If memory serves, it probably wasn't until late 2003, after the insurgency in Iraq flared up, that the antiwar left perked up in Manhattan.

    Replies: @Lot

    Manhattan is about as far left as Santa Monica

    I thought Santa Monica might be further left, but turns out you are right on the nose there, both were about 84% Obama. I would have thought the only people in SM not voting for Obama are Mickey Kaus and a few employees of the Rand Corporation.

    • Replies: @JsP
    @Lot

    Old holdouts?

    the Santa Monica neighborhood my parents moved to in 2000 looked like it was built for middle class americans around WWII. of course those homes (or just for the tiny lot) cost millions (plural; nowhere near 1m) now and are bought by the usual suspects (international criminals from china or wherever, trust funders, etc. -- merely having a good salary won't cut it).

    I lived within walking distance of multiple (presumably empty) mainline Protestant churches as well as a big Catholic church/school.

    That neighborhood was the obtainable American dream, i reckon. Not to rain on Steve's parade but the valley was never so idyllic as opening your bedroom window and having the Pacific breeze rush in.

    Samohi is where most of the brat pack went to school together (Sean Penn, Judd Nelson, the estevez brothers).

    And later the very epitome of California..ness, Dean Cain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel H

  49. @Kylie
    @International Jew

    "I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!"

    Good. Keep her occupied so she can't write or talk.

    By any means necessary. :)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @AnotherDad

    Yes. Can we just, please, have one simple summer vacation from obnoxious SJW’s? The fact that they do not look good in a bathing suit, or, on a boat, even a paddle board for God’s sake, should not be a reason to be so hateful and tiresome alllllll the time, all summer long. I guess they never did stupid scheisse with surfer boys (or girls, I’m thinkin; diversity) at the town bonfire at the beach. Who remembers Whipids? – spelled it wrong, for sure…found in the freezer of most Surf n’ Turf restaurants, most crazy-assed laughing moments at your sh*tty job in the summer, job you needed.

  50. @Lagertha
    @Dave Pinsen

    what a tool...loser. Give me a modern day Christian for Douthat to attack - oops! don't wanna be feelin,' I gotta give it up'. I am just amazed how much intelligent people are willing (have been) to hurl slurs at each other over the next 8 months (more like 20 years). Because I am a pessimist (politically) I believe someone like Donald will be killed - the left has shown to be much more bloodthirsty, much more devious, much more scary than the right! - ha- soooo fracking funny!

    I have tons of videos in my collection of odious people hurting-on/assaulting people at Trump rallies. I have no respect for all the MSM networks...they are all colluding...but (as far as their salary & benefits) the foot soldiers, well, they need to ask if after this election, their job is over - they worked hard and for what???. Even if their candidate wins, they're still serfs. Whoops! - "can't afford the mortgage of that house I thought was solid?

    Whatever. Bring it on, but lose the GOT analogy. SWPL ARE the watchers of GOF, btw. Whadda bunch of youts!

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is trailing in the polls, despite recent news you’d figure would have given him a tailwind (Orland, Brexit). If he starts consistently running ahead of Hillary in the polls, I would be even more worried for his safety.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Dave Pinsen

    Well, we have to remember ( I lived/worked in the tri-state area all my life) that it ain't over till the Fat Lady sings. Trump's numbers are just numbers, and, it's still June.

    If I were he: I would do a "summer tour" of the USA: take his family (Kids & spouses, Melania & Baron, grandparents of any, and all, special accommodations for pets - wud be so cool! - you'd get all of the alphabet crowd, and, of course me, the perpetual animal rights old lady ) and tour the Great American Summer places! I see a photo op in the Badlands National Park.

    I was just on the shores of NJ, Delaware and Maryland. If Donald showed up there, and anywhere else, like Mt. Rushmore/Sturgis motorcycle jamboree for instance, he would slay some stuff. Trump needs to remember: it is not about the coasts of the wealthiest/connected people who live in a bubble in this country...it's the people who feel like THOSE people condescend to them and want them to pay for EVERYTHING It's Elites against: kindly, Midwestern Rubes. And, erhmmm, because I represent elites in money only....the markets will go on...money is money...so simple. NOTHING CHANGES.

    Can Trump just go to like, Canyonlands Nationals Park with his brood?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is trailing because of +10 D sampling and 5 point margins of error.

    The fact 60% of people support a Muslim ban but he can't break 50% is telling.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Unladen Swallow

  51. @Larry, San Francisco
    @SPMoore8

    No, I know a lot of Russian Jews. All of them hate communism and most are not overly fond of leftists or NAMS. If they had gone to Israel they most would have joined Avigdor Lieberman's party which is to the right of Likud. I guess some of their children could have been brainwashed in school though. They are quite a contrast to the grandchildren of 1900 emigres.
    I think it is interesting that there are some southern CA Jewish intellectuals who are not fans of increasing migration. You could include Dennis Prager and even Dr Drew (who usually agrees with Adam Carolla). I guess having real world experience of what mass immigration is like makes a difference.
    When I was a kid, I knew a lot of Jews and Swedes who lived on the south side of Chicago and were forced to flee their neighborhoods like Steve's father in law. They were the only Jews/Scandinavians I knew who were Nixon supporters.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charlesz Martel

    I generally agree, I knew many Soviet Jews back in the ’70s, they seemed mostly secular and conservative, sort of like Max Boot but basically keeping their heads down in order to get by. People like Young and Ioffe come across as the Soviet equivalent of red diaper babies. I wonder now how rare they are.

  52. @Dave Pinsen
    @Hepp

    This reminds me of a tweet storm by Ross Douthat a few hours ago, and the lefty reactions to it.
    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/747585952760078336

    See the responses by Adam Ozimek ("Modeled Behavior", for example). Game of Thrones spoilers in the thread, so avoid if you haven't watched this season yet and plan to. But the tl;dr is that one character was irrationally hated more by lefties basically because he espoused some traditional Christian values (in favor of helping the poor, against homosexuality, etc.).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @shk12344, @guest

    The TV High Sparrow has nothing in common with the Book High Sparrow. TV show portrays him as a religious zealot, while the book sparrow is written up as a master political player. There is nothing in the book that suggest High sparrow has problem with homosexuality.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @shk12344

    I haven't read the books, but Ross (who has) noted that the show made him out to be a master political player for the last two seasons.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @jeremiahjohnbalaya
    @shk12344

    I don't actually remember much about the High Sparrow in the books. But i know that Loras Tyrell was not imprisoned for homosexuality. He was last seen in battle in another part of the kingdom.

    They also totally fagged up Renley Baratheon.

    And of course they had the scene w/ Joffrey where he is obsessing over showing Margary his crossbow. I'm pretty sure they invented that little gun-owner slur out of whole cloth.

    At this point I really only watch the show to remind myself how much I hate it.

  53. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country.
     
    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers and Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics and stuck to being dentists and homemakers making briskets instead.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Lot, @Big Bill, @Unz Reader

    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    Man, you figured out the plan! You see, ten years ago, when Miller was a 19 year old student at Duke, we assigned him to “get in front” of right wing populism, which in 2006 was booming. He eagerly obeyed, knowing that writing articles doubting that white college students gang-raped a black stripper would make him popular on campus and help his future career prospects, maybe even get him a job in the Alberto Gonzalez’s DOJ.

    Getting him onto Jeff Sessions’ staff, well that was easy for a cunning cabal such as ours.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Lot

    What's unique about Miller is that he's a consummate DC staffer, but he brought an iSteve sensibility with him to Washington.

    Ioffe's article goes details Miller's antipathy toward Rubio due to Gang of 8, etc. It's interesting to consider where Rubio would be today if Miller had gone to work for him instead of Sessions, and had somehow converted Rubio to immigration restrictionism. Rubio might be the nominee today, and outpolling Hillary.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot

    There is no plan or conspiracy. Just as there is no plan or conspiracy for blacks to play in the NBA.

  54. @shk12344
    @Dave Pinsen

    The TV High Sparrow has nothing in common with the Book High Sparrow. TV show portrays him as a religious zealot, while the book sparrow is written up as a master political player. There is nothing in the book that suggest High sparrow has problem with homosexuality.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

    I haven’t read the books, but Ross (who has) noted that the show made him out to be a master political player for the last two seasons.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Dave Pinsen

    A "master political player" would understand the concept of a person willing to burn everything down to get what they want. Even the callow, proto-Machivellian queen knew that something was seriously wrong.

  55. @Lot
    @Anonymous


    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.
     
    Man, you figured out the plan! You see, ten years ago, when Miller was a 19 year old student at Duke, we assigned him to "get in front" of right wing populism, which in 2006 was booming. He eagerly obeyed, knowing that writing articles doubting that white college students gang-raped a black stripper would make him popular on campus and help his future career prospects, maybe even get him a job in the Alberto Gonzalez's DOJ.

    Getting him onto Jeff Sessions' staff, well that was easy for a cunning cabal such as ours.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    What’s unique about Miller is that he’s a consummate DC staffer, but he brought an iSteve sensibility with him to Washington.

    Ioffe’s article goes details Miller’s antipathy toward Rubio due to Gang of 8, etc. It’s interesting to consider where Rubio would be today if Miller had gone to work for him instead of Sessions, and had somehow converted Rubio to immigration restrictionism. Rubio might be the nominee today, and outpolling Hillary.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dave Pinsen

    Rube never would have gone for immigration restrictionism. Rube had his heart set on flooding the US with low IQ Aztecs so that he could be part of the white elite like in every other Latin American land. Rubio's prospects are slim in an Anglo US so he had his heart set on deanglofying it. In a Latinized USA, Anglo politicians would not stand a chance against Hispanics like Rube.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  56. @Dave Pinsen
    @Lagertha

    Trump is trailing in the polls, despite recent news you'd figure would have given him a tailwind (Orland, Brexit). If he starts consistently running ahead of Hillary in the polls, I would be even more worried for his safety.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Jack Hanson

    Well, we have to remember ( I lived/worked in the tri-state area all my life) that it ain’t over till the Fat Lady sings. Trump’s numbers are just numbers, and, it’s still June.

    If I were he: I would do a “summer tour” of the USA: take his family (Kids & spouses, Melania & Baron, grandparents of any, and all, special accommodations for pets – wud be so cool! – you’d get all of the alphabet crowd, and, of course me, the perpetual animal rights old lady ) and tour the Great American Summer places! I see a photo op in the Badlands National Park.

    I was just on the shores of NJ, Delaware and Maryland. If Donald showed up there, and anywhere else, like Mt. Rushmore/Sturgis motorcycle jamboree for instance, he would slay some stuff. Trump needs to remember: it is not about the coasts of the wealthiest/connected people who live in a bubble in this country…it’s the people who feel like THOSE people condescend to them and want them to pay for EVERYTHING It’s Elites against: kindly, Midwestern Rubes. And, erhmmm, because I represent elites in money only….the markets will go on…money is money…so simple. NOTHING CHANGES.

    Can Trump just go to like, Canyonlands Nationals Park with his brood?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    The more I think about a "summer tour of the great American National Parks," the more I think, while patting myself on the back is: absolutely brilliant! Trump could go to Wounded Knee (before Rushmore and Crazy Horse!) , and take all that in - I did, one summer...very intense but poignant, and sublime...all, at the same time.

    I must remind Trump people who may read our stuff: No ONE, not - a - one U.S. politician has made any kind of declarative statement to help our Native Americans. Washington plutocrats are too busy helping immigrants from where the F ever before the people we all actually displaced - so embarrassing.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Lagertha

  57. Can I just say: Yeyyy! Iisland! The best country in the world….ok, weather kinda’ sucks…but it is a magical place! I want them to WIN IT!

  58. In the second last paragraph, read “refugees” for refugees.

  59. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    The tweeter is Christopher Hitchens' son by his first wife, Eleni Meleagrou.

    He is a think tank researcher on terrorism and jihad.

    http://icsr.info/about-us-2/staff/alexander-meleagrou-hitchens-research-fellow/

    Replies: @5371

    Not surprised to learn that Christopher Hitchens preferred women to look like men.

    • Replies: @Pat Gilligan
    @5371

    I still shudder when I think of Christopher Hitchens' defiance against God until the very end. Especially when it is understood that it is those who pass out of this world in revolt against God (as opposed to merely dying in sin) who face an eternity without Him, or loss of God to the soul, resulting in an eternal (unchanging Now) solitary confinement. This is infinitely worse than Dante's vision or the harrowing tortures of the religious writers. It's easy to go through life comfortably without the thought of God-- especially if you're comfortable and especially in this day and age. But at the end of life? It's a very scary thought. When one of the greatest intellects of the 20th century, mathematician John von Neumann, was dying of cancer he became terrified of the reality of eternal destiny and summoned a Benedictine Catholic priest to hear his confession and receive Extreme Unction.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JerryC

    , @Percy Gryce
    @5371

    You can take the boy out of the public school ....

  60. @Jean Cocteausten
    @Tiny Duck

    You are one of an army of erudite, unwitting apologists for global neoliberalism.

    Americans became tired of being chained to a treadmill in order to afford the piles of consumer goods that must be sold each year to keep corporations profitable. So new consumers must be created.

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end - because the demand for more profit never ends.

    How does it feel to be the intellectual vanguard for the likes of Wal-Mart, Disney and General Motors?

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Thea, @Antonymous

    Erudite? I object. Platitudinous and cliche-ridden.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Stephen R. Diamond


    Erudite? I object. Platitudinous and cliche-ridden.
     
    Its kind of a sliding scale; he didn't just denounce as "rednecks" with a "micropenis," so he gets to be labelled "erudite."
  61. I know little about how politics works. I would be happy to see Trump as president and hope to see the USA get back to its traditional values. How any particular decision plays out in this I do not know. I hope it helps push Trump over the top.

  62. @Lot
    @Anonymous


    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.
     
    Man, you figured out the plan! You see, ten years ago, when Miller was a 19 year old student at Duke, we assigned him to "get in front" of right wing populism, which in 2006 was booming. He eagerly obeyed, knowing that writing articles doubting that white college students gang-raped a black stripper would make him popular on campus and help his future career prospects, maybe even get him a job in the Alberto Gonzalez's DOJ.

    Getting him onto Jeff Sessions' staff, well that was easy for a cunning cabal such as ours.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    There is no plan or conspiracy. Just as there is no plan or conspiracy for blacks to play in the NBA.

  63. @Lagertha
    @Dave Pinsen

    Well, we have to remember ( I lived/worked in the tri-state area all my life) that it ain't over till the Fat Lady sings. Trump's numbers are just numbers, and, it's still June.

    If I were he: I would do a "summer tour" of the USA: take his family (Kids & spouses, Melania & Baron, grandparents of any, and all, special accommodations for pets - wud be so cool! - you'd get all of the alphabet crowd, and, of course me, the perpetual animal rights old lady ) and tour the Great American Summer places! I see a photo op in the Badlands National Park.

    I was just on the shores of NJ, Delaware and Maryland. If Donald showed up there, and anywhere else, like Mt. Rushmore/Sturgis motorcycle jamboree for instance, he would slay some stuff. Trump needs to remember: it is not about the coasts of the wealthiest/connected people who live in a bubble in this country...it's the people who feel like THOSE people condescend to them and want them to pay for EVERYTHING It's Elites against: kindly, Midwestern Rubes. And, erhmmm, because I represent elites in money only....the markets will go on...money is money...so simple. NOTHING CHANGES.

    Can Trump just go to like, Canyonlands Nationals Park with his brood?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    The more I think about a “summer tour of the great American National Parks,” the more I think, while patting myself on the back is: absolutely brilliant! Trump could go to Wounded Knee (before Rushmore and Crazy Horse!) , and take all that in – I did, one summer…very intense but poignant, and sublime…all, at the same time.

    I must remind Trump people who may read our stuff: No ONE, not – a – one U.S. politician has made any kind of declarative statement to help our Native Americans. Washington plutocrats are too busy helping immigrants from where the F ever before the people we all actually displaced – so embarrassing.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Lagertha

    To truly acknowledge the plight of the Amerinds would call current displacement immigration policies into question.

    , @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    my major duh. I suppose I was thinking about the current citizen poor people in our cities and countryside. I just want Trump to go to like, Nebraska or Kansas for 4th of July...go to a baseball game or something.

  64. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    Eloquent first comment, Vince! Welcome to the conversation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    One quibble regarding the immortality of ideas: Nothing lasts forever.

  65. Not surprised to learn that Christopher Hitchens preferred women to look like men.

    Man…

  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Miller is a good public speaker and an asset to the Trump campaign as a force multiplier. Therefore he gets "the treatment" from the opposition.

    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.

    1. We know the Establishment lies to us about everything. 2. Therefore why trust their polling?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @GOUSAAmer114, @woodNfish

    Every election is different etc. but I am automatically skeptical of falling for “polls are skewed” talk considering what happened in 2012.

    The one thing that could maybe work in Trump’s favor is the high % of “other” votes right now, which most likely will not be the case on Election Day.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Anonymous


    Every election is different etc. but I am automatically skeptical of falling for “polls are skewed” talk considering what happened in 2012.
     
    As well you should be. Never-the-less, its not a typical year by any means (plus its still merely June!), and the Republican National Convention is going to be a game changer this time out. More people will likely watch Trump deliver his acceptance address, than previously viewed the Super Bowl. Its going to be one of the biggest TV events in history. And Trump doubtless has plans to take advantage of it.
  67. @Daniel Williams
    @Anonymous


    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers ... stayed out of politics ...
     
    If this Jew Miller puts his ass on the line and helps Trump get elected, it'll be a lot more done for the common good we all claim to espouse than the non-actions of some whining anon who's done nothing to advance the campaign.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jack Hanson, @Bill

    I agree with this! I’ll admit that I’ve been critical of Jews, to the point where Steve has held certain comments of mine for a few hours. I’m not trying to be nasty, it’s just that it’s freakin’ exasperating living in a constant who/whom battle with a certain talented, intelligent, often quite admirable people who sometimes brazenly work against the interests of whites (gentiles). But I also realize that of course, many Jews are true American patriots, fair minded, and defenders of freedom. So if Stephen Miller is on the up-and-up, I want him on my side.

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken. Nothing off-putting about her demeanor. In many ways, an ideal human being. And yet ungrateful that the US fast-tracked her group specifically to immigrate from Russia. And now she’s working against us here. As Trump would say, “Sad!”

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.
     
    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick's smokin'.

    Replies: @MC, @dr kill, @Anonymous

  68. @Larry, San Francisco
    @SPMoore8

    No, I know a lot of Russian Jews. All of them hate communism and most are not overly fond of leftists or NAMS. If they had gone to Israel they most would have joined Avigdor Lieberman's party which is to the right of Likud. I guess some of their children could have been brainwashed in school though. They are quite a contrast to the grandchildren of 1900 emigres.
    I think it is interesting that there are some southern CA Jewish intellectuals who are not fans of increasing migration. You could include Dennis Prager and even Dr Drew (who usually agrees with Adam Carolla). I guess having real world experience of what mass immigration is like makes a difference.
    When I was a kid, I knew a lot of Jews and Swedes who lived on the south side of Chicago and were forced to flee their neighborhoods like Steve's father in law. They were the only Jews/Scandinavians I knew who were Nixon supporters.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charlesz Martel

    My experience is the same as Larry. Soviet Jews from the post-1980s exodus are probably among the most politically conservative Jews in America, virulently pro-Israel, and often hold very negative feelings towards African-Americans. They tend to be from provincial (and often Ukrainian) cities like Zhitomir or Odessa. Ioffe and Masha Gessen are both from Moscow and I believe their families moved in elite artistic/creative circles back in the USSR. Once elite, always elite.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  69. JsP says:
    @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen


    Manhattan is about as far left as Santa Monica
     
    I thought Santa Monica might be further left, but turns out you are right on the nose there, both were about 84% Obama. I would have thought the only people in SM not voting for Obama are Mickey Kaus and a few employees of the Rand Corporation.

    Replies: @JsP

    Old holdouts?

    the Santa Monica neighborhood my parents moved to in 2000 looked like it was built for middle class americans around WWII. of course those homes (or just for the tiny lot) cost millions (plural; nowhere near 1m) now and are bought by the usual suspects (international criminals from china or wherever, trust funders, etc. — merely having a good salary won’t cut it).

    I lived within walking distance of multiple (presumably empty) mainline Protestant churches as well as a big Catholic church/school.

    That neighborhood was the obtainable American dream, i reckon. Not to rain on Steve’s parade but the valley was never so idyllic as opening your bedroom window and having the Pacific breeze rush in.

    Samohi is where most of the brat pack went to school together (Sean Penn, Judd Nelson, the estevez brothers).

    And later the very epitome of California..ness, Dean Cain.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    Santa Monica's housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82. No airconditioning in my dumpy apartment, but I only needed it about 10 days per year, and barely needed any heat.

    Before antibiotics, rich people didn't like to live near the ocean because they thought they'd get TB. So they lived inland in places like Pasadena. My grandfather, for example, moved from Oak Park, IL to Altadena above Pasadena in 1929.

    But then smog and antibiotics came along, so people with money started to moving to Santa Monica, which had surprisingly crummy houses.

    Now the smog is gone, so Pasadena is nice again.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @PiltdownMan, @Daniel H

    , @Daniel H
    @JsP

    I took a vacation to Santa Monica last year, and while it's overall architecture is prosperous/pedestrian, I thought it the most enticing place to live that I have ever been to. The mellow vibe, close to the cool parts of LA, an hour's drive from the beautiful coastal interior of So. Cal, the warmth, with the cool natural airconditioning from the sea. Who wouldn't want to live there? I'll never have the money, though, so it's just a dream.

  70. @syonredux
    @International Jew


    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

     

    Certainly a lot better looking than Masha Gessen.

    Replies: @Parsifal

    That’s quite a low bar to clear.

  71. @JsP
    @Lot

    Old holdouts?

    the Santa Monica neighborhood my parents moved to in 2000 looked like it was built for middle class americans around WWII. of course those homes (or just for the tiny lot) cost millions (plural; nowhere near 1m) now and are bought by the usual suspects (international criminals from china or wherever, trust funders, etc. -- merely having a good salary won't cut it).

    I lived within walking distance of multiple (presumably empty) mainline Protestant churches as well as a big Catholic church/school.

    That neighborhood was the obtainable American dream, i reckon. Not to rain on Steve's parade but the valley was never so idyllic as opening your bedroom window and having the Pacific breeze rush in.

    Samohi is where most of the brat pack went to school together (Sean Penn, Judd Nelson, the estevez brothers).

    And later the very epitome of California..ness, Dean Cain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel H

    Santa Monica’s housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82. No airconditioning in my dumpy apartment, but I only needed it about 10 days per year, and barely needed any heat.

    Before antibiotics, rich people didn’t like to live near the ocean because they thought they’d get TB. So they lived inland in places like Pasadena. My grandfather, for example, moved from Oak Park, IL to Altadena above Pasadena in 1929.

    But then smog and antibiotics came along, so people with money started to moving to Santa Monica, which had surprisingly crummy houses.

    Now the smog is gone, so Pasadena is nice again.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    What was the connection between the ocean and TB? Just that the weather was cooler?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer


    Santa Monica’s housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82.
     

    My brother-in-law and family lived in a rental in Santa Monica in the mid to late 1980s as they began their university careers. I recall their saying that several of their older neighbors bought homes there in the late 1940s and early 1950s for about $10-15,000 or so. Not very fancy homes going by external appearances—definitely lower middle to middle income homes.

    But even by then, the market value had gone up by 20 or 30 times in nominal dollars and these had become upper-middle class properties for those who sought to buy.

    I haven't been back, but I assume many have been rebuilt. The land values must be sky-high.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Daniel H
    @Steve Sailer

    People, today, have no memory or idea of how scary TB was to earlier generations. Two of my grandparents and an uncle died of TB, back in the old country. There was little medicine could do before penicillin. It was a fearsome menace in this country too. While living in sunny, dry Orange county, Richard Nixon's brother Harold died of Tuberculosis. His brother Arthur may have die of it too.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  72. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    [a nation that grows more sexually … diverse with every sunrise]

    But how can that be? Don’t you know that all homos are Born This Way?

  73. @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    Santa Monica's housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82. No airconditioning in my dumpy apartment, but I only needed it about 10 days per year, and barely needed any heat.

    Before antibiotics, rich people didn't like to live near the ocean because they thought they'd get TB. So they lived inland in places like Pasadena. My grandfather, for example, moved from Oak Park, IL to Altadena above Pasadena in 1929.

    But then smog and antibiotics came along, so people with money started to moving to Santa Monica, which had surprisingly crummy houses.

    Now the smog is gone, so Pasadena is nice again.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @PiltdownMan, @Daniel H

    What was the connection between the ocean and TB? Just that the weather was cooler?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems -- as in Mann's "Magic Mountain," tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena's warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica's mild moist climate.

    There's no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @JsP, @JsP

  74. Interesting how the former Republican staffer says he doesn’t know what this anger is about, and this magazine thinks that’s something they should print.

    I mean, aren’t our rulers supposed to know who we are, what we want, and what we are angry about? You’d expect them to put their staff to work finding out as much as they can about this anger, at least to figure out how to manipulate this anger in some direction away from them. That should be job one for someone interested in staying in power. But they don’t know, they admit they don’t know, and neither the staffer, the writer nor Politico seem to think there’s anything wrong with that.

  75. @JohnnyD
    A much better historical comparison could be made: Miller is like Samuel Gompers, the Jewish American labor leader who fought hard for immigration restriction in the 1920s. But this would be too much to expect from professional victim, Julia Ioffe.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Richard

  76. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    That will make an excellent addition to the Oxford Anthology of Things That Never Happened.

  77. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    There’s definitely an attempt to construct a narrative here. It’s ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish’ in real time and I’d wager the majority of these (graffiti etc) are the work of the left.

    All helps to delegitimise Brexit and prepare the grounds for non-implementation.

    • Agree: Richard S
  78. @Cagey Beast
    Julia Ioffe's Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries. Oh well, there's apparently still a market for this stuff.

    Replies: @Ed, @Richard, @AnotherDad

    When The New Repubkic switched editors she’s one on the journalists that left. She sent a tweet about the new magazine being all about identity and how awful that is going to be. I guess now that’s she is gainfully employed she’s back on that hobby horse herself.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    My guess is that Ioffe is smart enough to find crimestop a little painful: she's aware that the Sailer/Miller view of how the world works makes more sense than the conventional wisdom, but she also has her career to consider.

    Ioffe reminds me of a conversation I had with a Russian immigrant 15 years ago who was very relieved when I told him American journalists were hypocrites:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-conversation-with-a-russian-immigrant

    "Hypocrite I understand. I grow up in Soviet Union. Lying to save your job, that's life. No, I was very worried smart people in America weren't hypocrites. You know, this country is supposed to be land of free, home of brave. I was scared that smart Americans weren't hypocrites, but instead were hallucinating. I am very happy to hear they're just hypocrites. Hypocrisy much less scary than mass hallucination."

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  79. Astonishing Murdoch’s neocon Times of London has a lead editorial urging that concerns around EU freedom of movement not be sacrificed, that British immigration law be overhauled for non-EU citizens, namely family reunification rules overhauled and that a points system be introduced.

    The Trump effect, just imagine if he wins.

    Boris Johnson has already, as expected, gone soft on freedom of movement. His likely opponent for Conservative leader, Theresa May, had tended to be a hardliner. I expect she will win. I also expect UKIP to pick up seats if there is a snap election.

  80. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    How come so many South American nations are lower than Japan even though the former are way more diverse?

  81. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    Dear Mr. Rizzo,
    you said that Whites fear a loss of “privilege”.
    I’d say that Whites fear a loss of their jobs, their homes, their cars, protection from criminality and enough money to afford a family.
    All this should not, and need not, be a “privilege”. It definitely wasn’t a White privilege in the times when America or Europe was “great”.
    A sane Left would not try to take these goods away – or shame Whites for to cling to them -, but concentrate on how non-White immigrants can arrive at the same level as Whites.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Stogumber

    I'll presume to speak for all "whites" - I'm the whitest person you'd ever meet who is not an albino: What we fear is a loss of our posterity.

    It doesn't get more fundamental than that.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

  82. That could have been Ron Unz, with an easy path to Trump’s cabinet, if not for his love affair with Mexico. They even look like twins!

  83. @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    Santa Monica's housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82. No airconditioning in my dumpy apartment, but I only needed it about 10 days per year, and barely needed any heat.

    Before antibiotics, rich people didn't like to live near the ocean because they thought they'd get TB. So they lived inland in places like Pasadena. My grandfather, for example, moved from Oak Park, IL to Altadena above Pasadena in 1929.

    But then smog and antibiotics came along, so people with money started to moving to Santa Monica, which had surprisingly crummy houses.

    Now the smog is gone, so Pasadena is nice again.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @PiltdownMan, @Daniel H

    Santa Monica’s housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82.

    My brother-in-law and family lived in a rental in Santa Monica in the mid to late 1980s as they began their university careers. I recall their saying that several of their older neighbors bought homes there in the late 1940s and early 1950s for about $10-15,000 or so. Not very fancy homes going by external appearances—definitely lower middle to middle income homes.

    But even by then, the market value had gone up by 20 or 30 times in nominal dollars and these had become upper-middle class properties for those who sought to buy.

    I haven’t been back, but I assume many have been rebuilt. The land values must be sky-high.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @PiltdownMan

    A friend of mine bought a 900 square foot house in Santa Monica around 1986. That was pretty typical of the housing stock except in the extreme north where there were big houses. Santa Monica shows up a lot in Raymond Chandler detective novels from around 1940 as "Bay City" -- a kind of sleazy, low rent place. Philip Marlowe's best girl lives in a tiny house on

    The new construction in 1981, however, was extravagant. I recall touring a new house made out of white pipes by some avant garde architect that looked, as Tom Wolfe would say, like an insecticide refinery.

    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents' worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn't really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica's cool / moist weather.

    And that's why Santa Monica in 1981 was a fairly expensive dump. Now, it's much more expensive but it's less of a dump.

    Replies: @JsP, @PiltdownMan

  84. I wonder about the Ioffe family. In Germany, Joseph Joffe has been a bigwig in journalism (editor of “Die Zeit”), and his granduncle was a general in Trotsky’s Red Army. So his grandfather was probably an officer, too, but the rest of their family’s history seems to be unknown. I’d guess that Iulia is some kind of relative.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Stogumber

    Jaffe (and all the variants- the Hebrew is YFE and can get transliterated many different ways - Joffe, Yuffe, etc.) is a fairly common Jewish name - it means "beautiful". If they are related, it's only a coincidence.

  85. @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer


    Santa Monica’s housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82.
     

    My brother-in-law and family lived in a rental in Santa Monica in the mid to late 1980s as they began their university careers. I recall their saying that several of their older neighbors bought homes there in the late 1940s and early 1950s for about $10-15,000 or so. Not very fancy homes going by external appearances—definitely lower middle to middle income homes.

    But even by then, the market value had gone up by 20 or 30 times in nominal dollars and these had become upper-middle class properties for those who sought to buy.

    I haven't been back, but I assume many have been rebuilt. The land values must be sky-high.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A friend of mine bought a 900 square foot house in Santa Monica around 1986. That was pretty typical of the housing stock except in the extreme north where there were big houses. Santa Monica shows up a lot in Raymond Chandler detective novels from around 1940 as “Bay City” — a kind of sleazy, low rent place. Philip Marlowe’s best girl lives in a tiny house on

    The new construction in 1981, however, was extravagant. I recall touring a new house made out of white pipes by some avant garde architect that looked, as Tom Wolfe would say, like an insecticide refinery.

    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents’ worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn’t really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica’s cool / moist weather.

    And that’s why Santa Monica in 1981 was a fairly expensive dump. Now, it’s much more expensive but it’s less of a dump.

    • Replies: @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    the documentary dogtown and z-boys gets it title from Santa Monica and Venice being called, well, Dogtown in the 70s.

    Venice was still pretty sketchy to me in the early 2000s. Now that was the place to buy for recent property increases.

    it was an interesting documentary, btw. you get to see the white punk skate subculture being born because a guy was filming it at the time. White Dogtown surf punks showed up white straitlaced suburban Californians at skate competitions with their 70s stoner surfer style.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer


    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents’ worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn’t really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica’s cool / moist weather.
     
    Aside from worries about tuberculosis, it was not unusual before 1970 for parents of children with chronic asthma to be told by their doctors to move to drier climes for the benefit of their children, if they could do so. Humidity, fog and sea air significantly worsen symptoms of asthma in many patients.
  86. @Ed
    @Cagey Beast

    When The New Repubkic switched editors she's one on the journalists that left. She sent a tweet about the new magazine being all about identity and how awful that is going to be. I guess now that's she is gainfully employed she's back on that hobby horse herself.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    My guess is that Ioffe is smart enough to find crimestop a little painful: she’s aware that the Sailer/Miller view of how the world works makes more sense than the conventional wisdom, but she also has her career to consider.

    Ioffe reminds me of a conversation I had with a Russian immigrant 15 years ago who was very relieved when I told him American journalists were hypocrites:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-conversation-with-a-russian-immigrant

    “Hypocrite I understand. I grow up in Soviet Union. Lying to save your job, that’s life. No, I was very worried smart people in America weren’t hypocrites. You know, this country is supposed to be land of free, home of brave. I was scared that smart Americans weren’t hypocrites, but instead were hallucinating. I am very happy to hear they’re just hypocrites. Hypocrisy much less scary than mass hallucination.”

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Steve Sailer

    Unfortunately it is becoming clearer and clearer that most of them actually are hallucinating.

  87. P.S. Is the article’s title a reference to this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247199/

  88. JL says:

    I would submit that you have Ioffe all wrong, she is 100% cuck and there isn’t even a sliver of awareness about anything common sensical. Ask your colleague Karlin or any other Russia follower who’s had to endure her years of tripe. She is intelligent, though it all seems completely relegated to her admittedly polished writing skills.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @JL

    I don't think she's a "cuck" at all, she's a Russian Jew. Jews from the Pale & their descendants have been undermining traditional America since their ascendancy in the post-WW2 era. She's just the latest incarnation albeit thus far a minor character.

  89. @5371
    @PiltdownMan

    Not surprised to learn that Christopher Hitchens preferred women to look like men.

    Replies: @Pat Gilligan, @Percy Gryce

    I still shudder when I think of Christopher Hitchens’ defiance against God until the very end. Especially when it is understood that it is those who pass out of this world in revolt against God (as opposed to merely dying in sin) who face an eternity without Him, or loss of God to the soul, resulting in an eternal (unchanging Now) solitary confinement. This is infinitely worse than Dante’s vision or the harrowing tortures of the religious writers. It’s easy to go through life comfortably without the thought of God– especially if you’re comfortable and especially in this day and age. But at the end of life? It’s a very scary thought. When one of the greatest intellects of the 20th century, mathematician John von Neumann, was dying of cancer he became terrified of the reality of eternal destiny and summoned a Benedictine Catholic priest to hear his confession and receive Extreme Unction.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Pat Gilligan

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It's not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    Replies: @5371, @Anonymous, @LKM, @kaganovitch

    , @JerryC
    @Pat Gilligan

    Hitchens always seemed to me like someone who was angry with God rather than someone who didn't believe God existed.

  90. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    You managed to take every leftist talking point we’ve heard for years, and make it sound like a speech by some sort of ominous politician in a superhero movie.

    I’m not sure that’s what you were going for, but if it was, well done.

  91. @Cagey Beast
    @Anonymous

    I think those were the kinds of people not trusted with firearms or powerful positions as the Soviet Union moved into the '60s and '70s. Their children and grandchildren are still around though. Some of them probably write opinion pieces for foreign policy magazines.

    Replies: @Flip

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many “Abrahamoviches” in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Flip

    "They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants"

    Theory is that Stalin was shocked when Israel's first Ambassador, Golda Meir, arrived in Moscow and went to synagogue, where she was surrounded by 50,000 ecstatic Russian Jews chanting her name in the streets. Loyalty to any non-Soviet entity (never mind an ethnic group) was not considered A Good Thing.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Choral_Synagogue#/media/File:Golda_Meir_Moscow_1948.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Cagey Beast

    , @Bill
    @Flip

    I've been on the lookout for an account of this process, whatever it was, myself. It seems to have been started by Stalin and finished by Khrushchev. It also seems to have been the force which drove the "New Left" away from actual leftism and towards neocondom and Cultural Marxism.

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Flip

    Yes, it's a topic that interests quite a bit, not least because we in the Anglosphere and France seem to be at a similar point in our history. There are probably more differences than similarities between then and now but still. It's interesting in its own right anyway because Russia's an interesting place.

    , @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    @Flip

    The NKVD went from Jews and other minorities being significantly overrepresented to only Russians and Georgians being overrepresented during Stalin's reign.

  92. A couple of good examples of Miller on the stump:

    https://goo.gl/6MLH3B

    https://goo.gl/GYRQ2M

  93. @Steve Sailer
    @PiltdownMan

    A friend of mine bought a 900 square foot house in Santa Monica around 1986. That was pretty typical of the housing stock except in the extreme north where there were big houses. Santa Monica shows up a lot in Raymond Chandler detective novels from around 1940 as "Bay City" -- a kind of sleazy, low rent place. Philip Marlowe's best girl lives in a tiny house on

    The new construction in 1981, however, was extravagant. I recall touring a new house made out of white pipes by some avant garde architect that looked, as Tom Wolfe would say, like an insecticide refinery.

    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents' worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn't really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica's cool / moist weather.

    And that's why Santa Monica in 1981 was a fairly expensive dump. Now, it's much more expensive but it's less of a dump.

    Replies: @JsP, @PiltdownMan

    the documentary dogtown and z-boys gets it title from Santa Monica and Venice being called, well, Dogtown in the 70s.

    Venice was still pretty sketchy to me in the early 2000s. Now that was the place to buy for recent property increases.

    it was an interesting documentary, btw. you get to see the white punk skate subculture being born because a guy was filming it at the time. White Dogtown surf punks showed up white straitlaced suburban Californians at skate competitions with their 70s stoner surfer style.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @JsP

    Dogtown was specifically the Pacific Ocean Park area, where the pilings left over from the old amusement park made for some interesting surfing. The poseurs of Venice and Santa Monica appropriated the Dogtown cache after the documentary became a cult classic.

  94. Quote from the article:

    “Like a lot of things on the Trump campaign, it’s not really clear how this happened. One day ahead of the Florida primary, Miller was telling Trump all about his experience fighting Marco Rubio on immigration reform, Trump told him to take it to the media and the stage, and that was that.”

    I guess all those years on The Apprentice has made Trump a quick study of talent. Or maybe he had that gift all along?

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Luke Lea

    Almost all candidates at that level are tightly scripted. Trump has a gift for improvisation, and isn't afraid to use it. Steyn had a typically perceptive account of a Trump rally in Vermont.

    http://www.steynonline.com/7408/notes-on-a-phenomenon


    I did check out the action backstage, and I'll say this: It was unlike any other candidate event I've been to. By comparison with, say, presidential campaigns such as Lamar Alexander's or Orrin Hatch's, Trump is very lightly staffed, and entirely unmanaged. Twenty minutes before the event, backstage is usually a whirl of activity with minions pretending to look busy and frantically tippy-tapping away on their phones over some vital matter or other. Deputy speechwriters and assistant campaign managers bustle about saying things like, "Mike's seen the Egyptian Prime Minister's response to the Secretary of State, so we're working on a sentence to add to the nuclear-proliferation section." There's none of that around Trump. He's meandering around back there shooting the breeze, posing for pics, totally relaxed - and so are his press secretary and campaign manager, too. If you've seen any of those inside-the-campaign movies, from Robert Redford in The Candidate to George Clooney in Ides of March, it looks all wrong: There's far too few people, and there's none of the fake busyness.
     
    The question is whether he can continue to just wing it, or whether he needs good staff work, a GOTV organization, and the rest.
  95. @Carbon blob
    Man, that Duke lacrosse case seems so long ago -- long enough ago, in fact, that back then Jon Stewart was honest enough to lampoon the case (and especially Nancy Grace) after the players were exonerated.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    Man, that must’ve been a long time ago. Stewart couldn’t wait to jettison the last of this credibility to become the glib, cowardly, snarky, shallow purveyor of all leftist propaganda.

    I think the crowning moment for him was when in 2010 he (and his butt-buddy Colbert) got so incensed that the Dems were about to get blown out in the Congressional midterms and that Glenn Beck had led a rally just for that purpose that Stewart organized his own rally to “parody” Beck’s. In reality, it was simply a leftist counter-rally to attempt to diminish the coming non-Leftist victory.

    What a corporate Leftist whore that second-rate comedian is.

  96. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    Even if that actually happened, which it probably did not, that doesn’t mean Brexit a net bad thing or that the elites should try to veto it.

  97. @Anonymous

    Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country.
     
    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers and Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics and stuck to being dentists and homemakers making briskets instead.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Lot, @Big Bill, @Unz Reader

    Sales 101: Find an underserved market and sell to it. The nationalist right has been limited to white goy spokesmen. With Miller they have a chance to see Jewish powers of persuasion and rhetoric and are impressed.

    This phenomenon (preference for the superior race) screwed local black businessmen. Drove ’em crazy. When Jim Crow was eliminated, black folks stopped patronizing local black businesses and started patronizing white businesses because white folks’ stuff was better in some indefinable way. Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way ’round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty. Elizabeth Wright discussed this post-WWII phenomenon at length and how it was the death knell for black bankers, lawyers, accountants, stores, and other businesses.

    Young Jews see an underserved sales/rhetoric/policy market and make the leap. Miller now, but before him Ben Shapiro, and before him, bunches of young Jews who saw the huge career opportunities in neo-connery.

    And let’s be honest: they are good. By the time Miller was in college he had a few dozen radio and TV appearances (likewise Shapiro). As Jews, they have the intelligence, the gift of gab, the rhetorical chops, the drive and the ambition to become the leaders of the nationalist right. Think of them as pioneers. Much to gain, little to lose.

    Further, Miller’s presence (and the presence of other Jews) in Trump’s inner circle will go far in allaying Jewish fears. With plenty of Jewish advisors around the Prince, it is far less likely he will go do something stupid (from a Jewish perspective). More Jewish money into Trump’s campaign coffers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Big Bill


    Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way ’round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty.
     
    Maybe the whites were better businessmen and professionals than blacks?
    , @Ed
    @Big Bill

    I disagree. Jews like Shapiro & Miller are as easily dismissed by the larger Jewish community as black conservatives are by the larger black community. Jews like Blacks thrive on nurturing a perpetual sense of victimhood & Jews love to be on the "right side of history". Being progressive and undermining traditional ethnic states is very important to them. I can't say I blame most Jews in being weary about an emerging nationalism, globally.

    It's just that America has never been like Europe in regards to Jewry so in this case their behavior is borderline paranoia & duplicitous. To me it's very much in Jewidh interests that America retains & even strengthens its Anglo identity but most Jews won't agree.

  98. @Pat Gilligan
    @5371

    I still shudder when I think of Christopher Hitchens' defiance against God until the very end. Especially when it is understood that it is those who pass out of this world in revolt against God (as opposed to merely dying in sin) who face an eternity without Him, or loss of God to the soul, resulting in an eternal (unchanging Now) solitary confinement. This is infinitely worse than Dante's vision or the harrowing tortures of the religious writers. It's easy to go through life comfortably without the thought of God-- especially if you're comfortable and especially in this day and age. But at the end of life? It's a very scary thought. When one of the greatest intellects of the 20th century, mathematician John von Neumann, was dying of cancer he became terrified of the reality of eternal destiny and summoned a Benedictine Catholic priest to hear his confession and receive Extreme Unction.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JerryC

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It’s not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Jack D

    In Hitchens' case, that was a delusion or attention-seeking on his part.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt, @Jack D

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Hitchens had a tiny amount of remote Jewish ancestry. On the other hand, von Neumann was a purebred ethnic Ashkenazi.

    , @LKM
    @Jack D

    von Neumann was born into a Jewish family and converted to Catholicism as an adult before marrying, though he supposedly never took it seriously. Hitchens' Jewish descent was a small fraction according to his brother.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    , @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Von Neumann was not born into a converted family. He himself converted to nominal Catholicism before his marriage. There is little evidence of it being necessary for social advancement as his family had already been ennobled. In all likelihood it was to please his wife.He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life, he is quoted as telling Wigner or Ulam (perhaps both?)about some theory " Die Goyim haben uns übertroffen" He seems only to have taken it seriously on his deathbed.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  99. @Big Bill
    @Anonymous

    Sales 101: Find an underserved market and sell to it. The nationalist right has been limited to white goy spokesmen. With Miller they have a chance to see Jewish powers of persuasion and rhetoric and are impressed.

    This phenomenon (preference for the superior race) screwed local black businessmen. Drove 'em crazy. When Jim Crow was eliminated, black folks stopped patronizing local black businesses and started patronizing white businesses because white folks' stuff was better in some indefinable way. Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way 'round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty. Elizabeth Wright discussed this post-WWII phenomenon at length and how it was the death knell for black bankers, lawyers, accountants, stores, and other businesses.

    Young Jews see an underserved sales/rhetoric/policy market and make the leap. Miller now, but before him Ben Shapiro, and before him, bunches of young Jews who saw the huge career opportunities in neo-connery.

    And let's be honest: they are good. By the time Miller was in college he had a few dozen radio and TV appearances (likewise Shapiro). As Jews, they have the intelligence, the gift of gab, the rhetorical chops, the drive and the ambition to become the leaders of the nationalist right. Think of them as pioneers. Much to gain, little to lose.

    Further, Miller's presence (and the presence of other Jews) in Trump's inner circle will go far in allaying Jewish fears. With plenty of Jewish advisors around the Prince, it is far less likely he will go do something stupid (from a Jewish perspective). More Jewish money into Trump's campaign coffers.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ed

    Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way ’round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty.

    Maybe the whites were better businessmen and professionals than blacks?

  100. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    The Montessori school vice-principal has made his feelings known.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Brutusale

    I immediately recognized that the writing was too slick to be original. This is a cut and past job from some black columnist.

    , @Bill
    @Brutusale

    That's a beautiful comment.

  101. Maybe the whites were better businessmen and professionals than blacks?

    Maybe it was because the white merchants drew upon the total customer base (whites and blacks) while the black merchants and professionals only drew upon the smaller black base.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @iffen

    Right, because white people would never have anything to do with blacks - they would never listen to them play music or watch them compete athletically.

    In my small, mostly white town growing up in the '60s, the local pharmacist (before they were all chain stores) was black. Before his pharmacist days, he had been a high school football star. He was just another small, moderately successful businessman and most of his customer base was white. Nobody cared about his race.

    Replies: @iffen

  102. @Stogumber
    I wonder about the Ioffe family. In Germany, Joseph Joffe has been a bigwig in journalism (editor of "Die Zeit"), and his granduncle was a general in Trotsky's Red Army. So his grandfather was probably an officer, too, but the rest of their family's history seems to be unknown. I'd guess that Iulia is some kind of relative.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Jaffe (and all the variants- the Hebrew is YFE and can get transliterated many different ways – Joffe, Yuffe, etc.) is a fairly common Jewish name – it means “beautiful”. If they are related, it’s only a coincidence.

  103. @Brutusale
    @Tiny Duck

    The Montessori school vice-principal has made his feelings known.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill

    I immediately recognized that the writing was too slick to be original. This is a cut and past job from some black columnist.

  104. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    My guess is that Ioffe is smart enough to find crimestop a little painful: she's aware that the Sailer/Miller view of how the world works makes more sense than the conventional wisdom, but she also has her career to consider.

    Ioffe reminds me of a conversation I had with a Russian immigrant 15 years ago who was very relieved when I told him American journalists were hypocrites:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-conversation-with-a-russian-immigrant

    "Hypocrite I understand. I grow up in Soviet Union. Lying to save your job, that's life. No, I was very worried smart people in America weren't hypocrites. You know, this country is supposed to be land of free, home of brave. I was scared that smart Americans weren't hypocrites, but instead were hallucinating. I am very happy to hear they're just hypocrites. Hypocrisy much less scary than mass hallucination."

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    Unfortunately it is becoming clearer and clearer that most of them actually are hallucinating.

  105. Some people have names whose pronunciation is not obvious. One of these people is Ross Douthat. How do you pronounce his surname? Is it like “Doubt hat”? Like “Do that”? Wikipedia to the rescue: it is pronounced “/ˈdaʊθæt/”, with an “ou” vowel in the first syllable and an unvoiced “th” sound.
    But what about the name Julia Ioffe? Does her surname rhyme with “coffee”? Is is pronounced “EYE-oh-fee”? Wikipedia tells us that the Russian spelling is “Иоффе”, but does not tell us its pronunciation in English.

    • Replies: @Richard S
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    I read it more or less as "yoffa"

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @avraham
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    'Yofe is the way the Russian would be said. If Hebrew it is יופי "yofe" "yo" would rhyme with "bow" and "fe" would be the same as "fee" as in "charging a fee."

    , @Immigrant from former USSR
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    I believe “Иоффе” is rather common last name for a Russian Jew.
    It is pronounced there like "coffee" with exaggerated pronunciation of "f" twice.

    I personally knew two people with last name Ioffe:
    Абрам Федорович Иоффе,
    Борис Лазаревич Иоффе.

    It may be overstatement that А. Ф. Иоффе knew me.
    He was scientific adviser on Ph.D. work of my late mother, well before I was born,
    and he worked in Leningrad till his death, while I am "from" Moscow.
    There is "Ioffe Physical-Technical Institute of USSR Academy of Sciences"
    in Leningrad.
    As far as I read, Julia Ioffe's family was "from" Moscow.

    Famous in Russia late bard Vysotskiy wrote in one of his songs:

    Главный академик Иоффе
    Доказал - коньяк и кофе
    Вам заменят спорт и профи-
    лактика.

    I can definitely say that Б. Л. Иоффе (RIP) "knew" me.

    To the best of my knowledge, А. Ф. Иоффе and Б. Л. Иоффе were not relatives.
    There is a joke in Russian language about absence of relatedness:
    "Who, NN ? He is not even a namesake of mine !"
    "Такой-то ? Да он мне даже не однофамилец !".

  106. @iffen
    Maybe the whites were better businessmen and professionals than blacks?

    Maybe it was because the white merchants drew upon the total customer base (whites and blacks) while the black merchants and professionals only drew upon the smaller black base.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Right, because white people would never have anything to do with blacks – they would never listen to them play music or watch them compete athletically.

    In my small, mostly white town growing up in the ’60s, the local pharmacist (before they were all chain stores) was black. Before his pharmacist days, he had been a high school football star. He was just another small, moderately successful businessman and most of his customer base was white. Nobody cared about his race.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Jack D

    Right, because white people would never have anything to do with blacks

    In my small, mostly white town growing up in the ’60s, the local pharmacist

    In 1975 I purchased auto insurance from a black agent and stayed with him until his company dumped me because I had teenagers. In 1981 the surveyor that I hired was black. In the early 80's I went to black dermatologist for a couple of years.

    All exceptions to the rule, just like your pharmacist.

  107. @Dave Pinsen
    @shk12344

    I haven't read the books, but Ross (who has) noted that the show made him out to be a master political player for the last two seasons.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    A “master political player” would understand the concept of a person willing to burn everything down to get what they want. Even the callow, proto-Machivellian queen knew that something was seriously wrong.

  108. @JL
    I would submit that you have Ioffe all wrong, she is 100% cuck and there isn't even a sliver of awareness about anything common sensical. Ask your colleague Karlin or any other Russia follower who's had to endure her years of tripe. She is intelligent, though it all seems completely relegated to her admittedly polished writing skills.

    Replies: @Ed

    I don’t think she’s a “cuck” at all, she’s a Russian Jew. Jews from the Pale & their descendants have been undermining traditional America since their ascendancy in the post-WW2 era. She’s just the latest incarnation albeit thus far a minor character.

  109. @5371
    @PiltdownMan

    Not surprised to learn that Christopher Hitchens preferred women to look like men.

    Replies: @Pat Gilligan, @Percy Gryce

    You can take the boy out of the public school ….

  110. So,” bursting with pride” that you were on the right side in protesting the Duke lacrosse legal lynching makes you a bad person, as does slicked back hair and a nice suit. Who knew. And any speech that doesn’t match the narrative is “florid.” Actually, Miller’s speech is best described as free speech.

  111. Ed says:
    @Big Bill
    @Anonymous

    Sales 101: Find an underserved market and sell to it. The nationalist right has been limited to white goy spokesmen. With Miller they have a chance to see Jewish powers of persuasion and rhetoric and are impressed.

    This phenomenon (preference for the superior race) screwed local black businessmen. Drove 'em crazy. When Jim Crow was eliminated, black folks stopped patronizing local black businesses and started patronizing white businesses because white folks' stuff was better in some indefinable way. Maybe it was partly the thrill of having white folks wait on black folks, instead of the other way 'round. Maybe it was the sheer novelty. Elizabeth Wright discussed this post-WWII phenomenon at length and how it was the death knell for black bankers, lawyers, accountants, stores, and other businesses.

    Young Jews see an underserved sales/rhetoric/policy market and make the leap. Miller now, but before him Ben Shapiro, and before him, bunches of young Jews who saw the huge career opportunities in neo-connery.

    And let's be honest: they are good. By the time Miller was in college he had a few dozen radio and TV appearances (likewise Shapiro). As Jews, they have the intelligence, the gift of gab, the rhetorical chops, the drive and the ambition to become the leaders of the nationalist right. Think of them as pioneers. Much to gain, little to lose.

    Further, Miller's presence (and the presence of other Jews) in Trump's inner circle will go far in allaying Jewish fears. With plenty of Jewish advisors around the Prince, it is far less likely he will go do something stupid (from a Jewish perspective). More Jewish money into Trump's campaign coffers.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ed

    I disagree. Jews like Shapiro & Miller are as easily dismissed by the larger Jewish community as black conservatives are by the larger black community. Jews like Blacks thrive on nurturing a perpetual sense of victimhood & Jews love to be on the “right side of history”. Being progressive and undermining traditional ethnic states is very important to them. I can’t say I blame most Jews in being weary about an emerging nationalism, globally.

    It’s just that America has never been like Europe in regards to Jewry so in this case their behavior is borderline paranoia & duplicitous. To me it’s very much in Jewidh interests that America retains & even strengthens its Anglo identity but most Jews won’t agree.

  112. @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    the documentary dogtown and z-boys gets it title from Santa Monica and Venice being called, well, Dogtown in the 70s.

    Venice was still pretty sketchy to me in the early 2000s. Now that was the place to buy for recent property increases.

    it was an interesting documentary, btw. you get to see the white punk skate subculture being born because a guy was filming it at the time. White Dogtown surf punks showed up white straitlaced suburban Californians at skate competitions with their 70s stoner surfer style.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Dogtown was specifically the Pacific Ocean Park area, where the pilings left over from the old amusement park made for some interesting surfing. The poseurs of Venice and Santa Monica appropriated the Dogtown cache after the documentary became a cult classic.

  113. @Jack D
    @Pat Gilligan

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It's not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    Replies: @5371, @Anonymous, @LKM, @kaganovitch

    In Hitchens’ case, that was a delusion or attention-seeking on his part.

    • Replies: @Franz Liszt
    @5371

    Nope, he simply and reasonably could not accept that a bunch of magical crap happened at the dawn of civilization to a two thousand year old Carpenter. The evidence (hearsay) is not acceptable as proof in court so why should we atheists believe it as well? Why is it so crazy to not believe that a two thousand year old Jewish carpenter literally and I mean LITERALLY created the Andromeda galaxy? And yet he won't use any of that power to heal an amputee? Not a single amputee has been devout enough to earn a new arm or leg etc??... Hitchens was an atheist to the end, don't let any of the deluded ones try to convince you otherwise.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Percy Gryce

    , @Jack D
    @5371

    His brother Peter claimed that they were only 1/32nd Jewish but I'm not sure I believe him either. In any case Judaism is matrilineal so you could (theoretically) be 1/32 Jewish but still Jewish.

    Once the societal advantage flips, some people will go from hiding a considerable minority background to emphasizing a minimal (or sometimes non-existent) one. It may be that Peter and Christopher had different ideas about whether it was more advantageous to be seen as Jewish or not Jewish in British or American society. It's also a glass half-empty/half-full thing - Peter the devout Christian prefers to see himself as mostly Christian and Chris the atheist sees himself as partly Jewish.

    Supposedly Hitchen's mother hid her Jewish background in order to insure that her kids grew up as perfect English upper class gentlemen. It's possible I suppose but I'm always skeptical about these stories. Madeline Albright claimed that until she became Secretary of State she had no idea that she was Jewish despite the fact that 3 of her 4 grandparents died in the Holocaust. Didn't she notice that grandma and grandpa weren't around anymore after the war was over? Even if you could pull the wool over the eyes of a child, didn't she put 2 and 2 together as an adult?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Alec Leamas, @Bee

  114. What was that AlexanderKerensky used to say? “No fringe to the Left”? Hmm, it was something like that …

  115. If the goal is to save Western Civilization then it is important to focus on the principles involved, not on who is saying them. If S. Miller helps in this regard then he should be complimented. What people ought to do is focus on the prize–the presidency– because you can be assured that the Left is extremely focused on that. If the right will not concentrate to the same degree we are likely to lose everything. Civilization itself.

  116. @Steve Sailer
    @PiltdownMan

    A friend of mine bought a 900 square foot house in Santa Monica around 1986. That was pretty typical of the housing stock except in the extreme north where there were big houses. Santa Monica shows up a lot in Raymond Chandler detective novels from around 1940 as "Bay City" -- a kind of sleazy, low rent place. Philip Marlowe's best girl lives in a tiny house on

    The new construction in 1981, however, was extravagant. I recall touring a new house made out of white pipes by some avant garde architect that looked, as Tom Wolfe would say, like an insecticide refinery.

    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents' worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn't really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica's cool / moist weather.

    And that's why Santa Monica in 1981 was a fairly expensive dump. Now, it's much more expensive but it's less of a dump.

    Replies: @JsP, @PiltdownMan

    It took me a long time to figure out that my parents’ worries about me catching some terrible disease from the fog in Santa Monica were actually reasonable from a pre-1945 point of view in which penicillin didn’t really exist and inland hot / dry weather was healthier than Santa Monica’s cool / moist weather.

    Aside from worries about tuberculosis, it was not unusual before 1970 for parents of children with chronic asthma to be told by their doctors to move to drier climes for the benefit of their children, if they could do so. Humidity, fog and sea air significantly worsen symptoms of asthma in many patients.

  117. @Jack D
    @iffen

    Right, because white people would never have anything to do with blacks - they would never listen to them play music or watch them compete athletically.

    In my small, mostly white town growing up in the '60s, the local pharmacist (before they were all chain stores) was black. Before his pharmacist days, he had been a high school football star. He was just another small, moderately successful businessman and most of his customer base was white. Nobody cared about his race.

    Replies: @iffen

    Right, because white people would never have anything to do with blacks

    In my small, mostly white town growing up in the ’60s, the local pharmacist

    In 1975 I purchased auto insurance from a black agent and stayed with him until his company dumped me because I had teenagers. In 1981 the surveyor that I hired was black. In the early 80’s I went to black dermatologist for a couple of years.

    All exceptions to the rule, just like your pharmacist.

  118. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Some people have names whose pronunciation is not obvious. One of these people is Ross Douthat. How do you pronounce his surname? Is it like "Doubt hat"? Like "Do that"? Wikipedia to the rescue: it is pronounced "/ˈdaʊθæt/", with an "ou" vowel in the first syllable and an unvoiced "th" sound.
    But what about the name Julia Ioffe? Does her surname rhyme with "coffee"? Is is pronounced "EYE-oh-fee"? Wikipedia tells us that the Russian spelling is "Иоффе", but does not tell us its pronunciation in English.

    Replies: @Richard S, @avraham, @Immigrant from former USSR

    I read it more or less as “yoffa”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Richard S

    Richard, I think this letter "I" is replaceable with the letter "J." Years ago I met a man named Eagle Joseph, I thought I was going to meet a native America. His name was spelled Yiegal Yousef.

  119. @Anonymous
    Miller is a good public speaker and an asset to the Trump campaign as a force multiplier. Therefore he gets "the treatment" from the opposition.

    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.

    1. We know the Establishment lies to us about everything. 2. Therefore why trust their polling?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @GOUSAAmer114, @woodNfish

    Speaking of polls, I want to ask the forum:

    In the national NBC/WSJ poll, (which had Trump down 39-38 in a four person race), the sample voted for Obama 42%, Romney 31%. Obama only won the 2012 election by 4 points, not by 11.

    In the just released PPP state polls, in each one, the sample voted significantly more for Obama than what actually happened. For instance, in PA, PPP’s sample voted 50% Obama, 40% Romney. In actuality, Obama won the state by 5.5%, not 10%. Same thing with all of the other state polls. If you correct for this one factor, Trump is +0.5% in PA, tied in OH, +1% in IA, +0.5% in NH, -5 in WI, +7 in AZ.

    So my question is: Is this just bias, or is it something else? Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won? This seems to be what a pollster might say. Is it believable or is it bias? Other reasons could include older GOP voters dying off.

    Would love to hear thoughts!

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @GOUSAAmer114

    Some polls are also constructed as push polls. They are intended to come up with a certain result in order to advance an agenda such as proving that there is wider support for a political agenda than there really is, or demoralizing your political opponents from thinking they can win.
    One recent poll I saw had Clinton up by double digits on Trump, but the same poll had Gary Johnson at 10%. The highest percentage of the Presidential vote any Libertarian has ever gotten was 2%. You look at that poll and ask yourself the following four questions:

    - Does 10% of the electorate actually know enough about the Libertarian Party to support their candidate?
    - Could 10% of the electorate even pick Gary Johnson out of a line-up, never mind vote for him?
    - If you conducted a poll by visiting every marijuana dispensary in the US and asking the staff and patrons who they plan to vote for, would the result differ to any significant extent from the result of this poll?
    - Really?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Ed
    @GOUSAAmer114

    I think it's just the luck of the draw really. I don't think it's possible for pollsters to control or weight their polls for all of the various permutations of the electorate.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Lot
    @GOUSAAmer114


    Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won?
     
    Yes. This is not Obama specific, for whatever reason people always over-report who they voted for previously as the election winner.

    Some of it may be people who did not vote claiming they voted for Obama.
  120. @Ttjy
    " The Jackson-Vanik act had singled out Jews from the Soviet Union for special immigration preferences:"

    Why did we let anybody come here from the the former Soviet Union? We won the cold war spending a ton of money and when they lose they get to come here?


    Let them sort their own country out.


    Immigration must stop.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

    I’ll take more Russians and Ukrainians over the immigrants we are actually getting from Mexico, China, and Africa, any day.

    We could choose,of course, to let nobody settle here. But I’d gladly take Russians and Europeans — meaning white non-Jewish Russians and Europeans.

    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians. Nonmuslim russian fertility rate is around replacement level at best, while Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren’t going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @RadicalCenter

    "Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren’t going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another."

    The Muslims are currently blocked by Russia to the east and southeast, and Poland to the west. My money's on the Chinese, who've just signed a deal to rent 5% of the place. Imagine the kickback on a deal like that.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10332007/China-to-rent-five-per-cent-of-Ukraine.html

    , @AP
    @RadicalCenter


    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians.
     
    Most Ukrainians who come to America are from Western Ukraine. They have plenty of children; visit a Ukrainian church and see for yourself.

    Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral
     
    Ukrainian tfr varies by region. The country's West has tfr that is not in a death spiral. Ukraine (unlike Russia, or Western Europe) has almost no Muslims and due to its poverty doesn't attract such migrants, so its low tfr just means population decline rather than Islamification.
  121. Does Julia Ioffe have anyone overseeing her ignorant hack diatribes? The Nazi theme is SO tired.

    Anyone who’s somewhat versed in WWII history knows Goebbels was a real piece of work, with quite a backstory, and doesn’t reflect Miller’s life, or ambitions, worth noting.

    Miller’s glare doesn’t make Miller any more like Goebbels than Julia Ioffe being an hysterical cunt makes her the new Eva Braun.

    Miller has a glare. Julia Ioffe is a cunt. That’s all! Leave the Nazi’s alone!!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @V Vega

    The fact that Miller is Jewish really spoils the Goebbels angle. If Ioffe (like Erdely) had free license to write her characters instead of being forced to deal with reality, no way would she have made the American Goebbels character Jewish. The fact that Trump's daughter is converted to Judaism and that his real estate organization was full of Jews is also a messy detail if you are trying to paint Trump as the American Hitler. When you are writing to fit the Narrative, reality is so inconvenient. You can try to write your way around it, but you can only get so far with that approach. An audience of True Believers is willing to suspend its disbelief if that's what's necessary to keep the plot moving (oh, the last 5 episodes were just a bad dream, look over here - a squirrel) but most people see the holes in the story and stop buying into it.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  122. @GOUSAAmer114
    @Anonymous

    Speaking of polls, I want to ask the forum:

    In the national NBC/WSJ poll, (which had Trump down 39-38 in a four person race), the sample voted for Obama 42%, Romney 31%. Obama only won the 2012 election by 4 points, not by 11.

    In the just released PPP state polls, in each one, the sample voted significantly more for Obama than what actually happened. For instance, in PA, PPP's sample voted 50% Obama, 40% Romney. In actuality, Obama won the state by 5.5%, not 10%. Same thing with all of the other state polls. If you correct for this one factor, Trump is +0.5% in PA, tied in OH, +1% in IA, +0.5% in NH, -5 in WI, +7 in AZ.

    So my question is: Is this just bias, or is it something else? Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won? This seems to be what a pollster might say. Is it believable or is it bias? Other reasons could include older GOP voters dying off.

    Would love to hear thoughts!

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Ed, @Lot

    Some polls are also constructed as push polls. They are intended to come up with a certain result in order to advance an agenda such as proving that there is wider support for a political agenda than there really is, or demoralizing your political opponents from thinking they can win.
    One recent poll I saw had Clinton up by double digits on Trump, but the same poll had Gary Johnson at 10%. The highest percentage of the Presidential vote any Libertarian has ever gotten was 2%. You look at that poll and ask yourself the following four questions:

    – Does 10% of the electorate actually know enough about the Libertarian Party to support their candidate?
    – Could 10% of the electorate even pick Gary Johnson out of a line-up, never mind vote for him?
    – If you conducted a poll by visiting every marijuana dispensary in the US and asking the staff and patrons who they plan to vote for, would the result differ to any significant extent from the result of this poll?
    – Really?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Alfa158

    Right. Most polls, like most studies, have an expected answer. Here are two ways to ask an immigration question:
    1) Do you support a path to citizenship for immigrants who play by the rules and pay their taxes?
    2) Do you support the use of an E-Verify system to ensure that unemployed American citizens get first crack at new jobs?

    Both are highly loaded questions, but each goes a different direction. Then to further muddy the waters, for a candidate poll you can:
    tilt the mix D or R
    pick likely voters
    pick registered voters
    ask anybody who will answer the phone

    Polls are crap (look at the Brexit polling), but they are instant stories for the morons on TV yakking about the endless horse race that is this presidential campaign.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  123. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Some people have names whose pronunciation is not obvious. One of these people is Ross Douthat. How do you pronounce his surname? Is it like "Doubt hat"? Like "Do that"? Wikipedia to the rescue: it is pronounced "/ˈdaʊθæt/", with an "ou" vowel in the first syllable and an unvoiced "th" sound.
    But what about the name Julia Ioffe? Does her surname rhyme with "coffee"? Is is pronounced "EYE-oh-fee"? Wikipedia tells us that the Russian spelling is "Иоффе", but does not tell us its pronunciation in English.

    Replies: @Richard S, @avraham, @Immigrant from former USSR

    ‘Yofe is the way the Russian would be said. If Hebrew it is יופי “yofe” “yo” would rhyme with “bow” and “fe” would be the same as “fee” as in “charging a fee.”

  124. Gentlemen, this is all really nice stuff, but in case you hadn’t noticed, the 40,000 year era of organic humanity ended today, not with a bang but with a whimper; and for this you can thank your friend and mine, Kanye West. These are supposed to be wax figures…best I’ve ever seen

    Say hello to the transhuman era and all it entails; and if you though being sheared was inconvenient, I’ve heard your masters have a taste for mutton right about now…

  125. @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    What was the connection between the ocean and TB? Just that the weather was cooler?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems — as in Mann’s “Magic Mountain,” tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena’s warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica’s mild moist climate.

    There’s no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    Fog did not discourage the settlement of San Francisco, but if there's gold in them thar hills, you'll put up with a little fog.

    Before the 20th century, living on or near a beach was not considered particularly attractive unless you were a fisherman or had other reason to live on the water. If the beach was near a city you might have summer cottages that were little more than shacks. When the Wright Brothers went to Kitty Hawk the area was barely populated.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting. I recall reading that the original Spanish settlement of Los Angeles was built inland due to some Spanish regulation about avoiding maritime attacks.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    SM didn't strike me as sunny. And definitely the fog was still there in the mornings at Samohi (close enough to the ocean to just barely have a view--standing at the right place in no fog).

    I still don't see how you think the Bay area has better weather. The Pacific ocean is cold. So the coast from San Diego to SB has the best weather in the world. SF is too far north.

    Your take only makes sense if you're comparing the valley to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It's just better.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    Long Beach is the natural harbor, right?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  126. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Some people have names whose pronunciation is not obvious. One of these people is Ross Douthat. How do you pronounce his surname? Is it like "Doubt hat"? Like "Do that"? Wikipedia to the rescue: it is pronounced "/ˈdaʊθæt/", with an "ou" vowel in the first syllable and an unvoiced "th" sound.
    But what about the name Julia Ioffe? Does her surname rhyme with "coffee"? Is is pronounced "EYE-oh-fee"? Wikipedia tells us that the Russian spelling is "Иоффе", but does not tell us its pronunciation in English.

    Replies: @Richard S, @avraham, @Immigrant from former USSR

    I believe “Иоффе” is rather common last name for a Russian Jew.
    It is pronounced there like “coffee” with exaggerated pronunciation of “f” twice.

    I personally knew two people with last name Ioffe:
    Абрам Федорович Иоффе,
    Борис Лазаревич Иоффе.

    It may be overstatement that А. Ф. Иоффе knew me.
    He was scientific adviser on Ph.D. work of my late mother, well before I was born,
    and he worked in Leningrad till his death, while I am “from” Moscow.
    There is “Ioffe Physical-Technical Institute of USSR Academy of Sciences”
    in Leningrad.
    As far as I read, Julia Ioffe’s family was “from” Moscow.

    Famous in Russia late bard Vysotskiy wrote in one of his songs:

    Главный академик Иоффе
    Доказал – коньяк и кофе
    Вам заменят спорт и профи-
    лактика.

    I can definitely say that Б. Л. Иоффе (RIP) “knew” me.

    To the best of my knowledge, А. Ф. Иоффе and Б. Л. Иоффе were not relatives.
    There is a joke in Russian language about absence of relatedness:
    “Who, NN ? He is not even a namesake of mine !”
    “Такой-то ? Да он мне даже не однофамилец !”.

  127. @Pat Gilligan
    @5371

    I still shudder when I think of Christopher Hitchens' defiance against God until the very end. Especially when it is understood that it is those who pass out of this world in revolt against God (as opposed to merely dying in sin) who face an eternity without Him, or loss of God to the soul, resulting in an eternal (unchanging Now) solitary confinement. This is infinitely worse than Dante's vision or the harrowing tortures of the religious writers. It's easy to go through life comfortably without the thought of God-- especially if you're comfortable and especially in this day and age. But at the end of life? It's a very scary thought. When one of the greatest intellects of the 20th century, mathematician John von Neumann, was dying of cancer he became terrified of the reality of eternal destiny and summoned a Benedictine Catholic priest to hear his confession and receive Extreme Unction.

    Replies: @Jack D, @JerryC

    Hitchens always seemed to me like someone who was angry with God rather than someone who didn’t believe God existed.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  128. @Luke Lea
    Quote from the article:

    "Like a lot of things on the Trump campaign, it’s not really clear how this happened. One day ahead of the Florida primary, Miller was telling Trump all about his experience fighting Marco Rubio on immigration reform, Trump told him to take it to the media and the stage, and that was that."

    I guess all those years on The Apprentice has made Trump a quick study of talent. Or maybe he had that gift all along?

    Replies: @Boomstick

    Almost all candidates at that level are tightly scripted. Trump has a gift for improvisation, and isn’t afraid to use it. Steyn had a typically perceptive account of a Trump rally in Vermont.

    http://www.steynonline.com/7408/notes-on-a-phenomenon

    I did check out the action backstage, and I’ll say this: It was unlike any other candidate event I’ve been to. By comparison with, say, presidential campaigns such as Lamar Alexander’s or Orrin Hatch’s, Trump is very lightly staffed, and entirely unmanaged. Twenty minutes before the event, backstage is usually a whirl of activity with minions pretending to look busy and frantically tippy-tapping away on their phones over some vital matter or other. Deputy speechwriters and assistant campaign managers bustle about saying things like, “Mike’s seen the Egyptian Prime Minister’s response to the Secretary of State, so we’re working on a sentence to add to the nuclear-proliferation section.” There’s none of that around Trump. He’s meandering around back there shooting the breeze, posing for pics, totally relaxed – and so are his press secretary and campaign manager, too. If you’ve seen any of those inside-the-campaign movies, from Robert Redford in The Candidate to George Clooney in Ides of March, it looks all wrong: There’s far too few people, and there’s none of the fake busyness.

    The question is whether he can continue to just wing it, or whether he needs good staff work, a GOTV organization, and the rest.

  129. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Daniel Williams

    I agree with this! I’ll admit that I’ve been critical of Jews, to the point where Steve has held certain comments of mine for a few hours. I’m not trying to be nasty, it’s just that it's freakin’ exasperating living in a constant who/whom battle with a certain talented, intelligent, often quite admirable people who sometimes brazenly work against the interests of whites (gentiles). But I also realize that of course, many Jews are true American patriots, fair minded, and defenders of freedom. So if Stephen Miller is on the up-and-up, I want him on my side.

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken. Nothing off-putting about her demeanor. In many ways, an ideal human being. And yet ungrateful that the US fast-tracked her group specifically to immigrate from Russia. And now she’s working against us here. As Trump would say, “Sad!”

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.

    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick’s smokin’.

    • Replies: @MC
    @Daniel Williams

    Agreed. She's like the ever-so-slightly less attractive sister of that Russian Jewish girl from the AT&T ads:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=at%26t+lily&biw=1440&bih=799&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCyPLU8MvNAhUP0mMKHX7UCBYQiR4Iew

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @dr kill
    @Daniel Williams

    I'm especially attracted to her agricultural shoulders. Reminds me of Russian agricultural joke.

    Potato harvesting in Motherland , two young brides are digging spuds and tossing them in the horse-drawn wagon. 'These potatoes remind me of my husband', said one bride as she lifted two monster spuds, one in each hand. 'His balls are that big??' said her friend. 'No', said the first wife, 'but they are that dirty'.

    , @Anonymous
    @Daniel Williams

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.

    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick’s smokin’.


    She is probably cosmetically enhanced.

  130. @5371
    @Jack D

    In Hitchens' case, that was a delusion or attention-seeking on his part.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt, @Jack D

    Nope, he simply and reasonably could not accept that a bunch of magical crap happened at the dawn of civilization to a two thousand year old Carpenter. The evidence (hearsay) is not acceptable as proof in court so why should we atheists believe it as well? Why is it so crazy to not believe that a two thousand year old Jewish carpenter literally and I mean LITERALLY created the Andromeda galaxy? And yet he won’t use any of that power to heal an amputee? Not a single amputee has been devout enough to earn a new arm or leg etc??… Hitchens was an atheist to the end, don’t let any of the deluded ones try to convince you otherwise.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Franz Liszt

    Eternity is going to suck for you. Too bad. You have my Christian sympathy.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Franz Liszt

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Calanda

  131. @GOUSAAmer114
    @Anonymous

    Speaking of polls, I want to ask the forum:

    In the national NBC/WSJ poll, (which had Trump down 39-38 in a four person race), the sample voted for Obama 42%, Romney 31%. Obama only won the 2012 election by 4 points, not by 11.

    In the just released PPP state polls, in each one, the sample voted significantly more for Obama than what actually happened. For instance, in PA, PPP's sample voted 50% Obama, 40% Romney. In actuality, Obama won the state by 5.5%, not 10%. Same thing with all of the other state polls. If you correct for this one factor, Trump is +0.5% in PA, tied in OH, +1% in IA, +0.5% in NH, -5 in WI, +7 in AZ.

    So my question is: Is this just bias, or is it something else? Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won? This seems to be what a pollster might say. Is it believable or is it bias? Other reasons could include older GOP voters dying off.

    Would love to hear thoughts!

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Ed, @Lot

    I think it’s just the luck of the draw really. I don’t think it’s possible for pollsters to control or weight their polls for all of the various permutations of the electorate.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ed

    If the errors were truly random they would fall one way or the other equally, but if the error is always in the D's favor (vs. actual election results) that means that there is some bias in the methodology.

    It doesn't necessarily mean that the pollster is in the can for one side (though that is sometimes true). For example, in the famous Dewey beats Truman poll of 1948, the poll was conducted by telephone and it turned out that in 1948 there were still enough poor, pro-Democrat voters who didn't have phones to skew the results - a sample of people with phones was not a truly representative sample of the voter pool.

    It's possible for a poll to just randomly capture a non-representative group of voters, but according to the laws of statistics, if you randomly sample a sufficiently large group the probability that your sample represents the answer for the entire population are very high. That works all the time if you are fishing colored marbles out of a bowl but humans are more complex - sometimes they tell pollsters one thing and do something else in the privacy of the voting booth. The way they answer depends on how the question is phrased, etc.

  132. @Flip
    @Cagey Beast

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many "Abrahamoviches" in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Bill, @Cagey Beast, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    “They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants”

    Theory is that Stalin was shocked when Israel’s first Ambassador, Golda Meir, arrived in Moscow and went to synagogue, where she was surrounded by 50,000 ecstatic Russian Jews chanting her name in the streets. Loyalty to any non-Soviet entity (never mind an ethnic group) was not considered A Good Thing.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Stalin's realization might be part of the answer but it can't be the whole story. After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism. Add in the fact that Communism tends to bring out the worst tendencies in people, rather than appealing to their "better angels" as Lincoln said. You can see (although anti-Semitism doesn't seem to have made a big comeback) that post- Communist Russia is even more Russian acting now.

    You can see the same thing in China - Communism is just a thin veneer on top of 5,000 years of Chinese history so as time goes on Chinese communist governments act less communist and more Chinese. People really do revert to type.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonymous

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Anonymous Nephew

    I think they also made a lot of enemies over the years. Those people shot by the Cheka and NKVD shot during various waves of purges, or for "desertion" during the war, had relatives and friends.

  133. @RadicalCenter
    @Ttjy

    I'll take more Russians and Ukrainians over the immigrants we are actually getting from Mexico, China, and Africa, any day.

    We could choose,of course, to let nobody settle here. But I'd gladly take Russians and Europeans -- meaning white non-Jewish Russians and Europeans.

    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians. Nonmuslim russian fertility rate is around replacement level at best, while Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren't going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @AP

    “Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren’t going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another.”

    The Muslims are currently blocked by Russia to the east and southeast, and Poland to the west. My money’s on the Chinese, who’ve just signed a deal to rent 5% of the place. Imagine the kickback on a deal like that.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10332007/China-to-rent-five-per-cent-of-Ukraine.html

  134. Hitler and Goebbels. Goebbels and Hitler. Blah, blah, blah… Is that all they’ve got? Are they THAT oblivious how musty this nonsense has become? No matter where you stand on Trump or Brexit, you gotta admit it’s fun to watch our elites and their media go ape-shit because the “little” people they so scorn are 1.) – ignoring them, 2.) – laughing off their attempts at guilt-intimidation. It had to happen sooner or later. The program is as moral as cancer. It’s old and tired; it has nothing left to say.

  135. @Anonymous
    "Trump shifts immigration plan: No 'mass deportations'"

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn't issue mass deportations if he became president.

    "President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it's never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody," Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.

    Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations, as he has called for in the past, Trump said, "No, I would not call it mass deportations.

    "We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you," Trump said.
     

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Lot, @Bill, @AnotherDad

    Why doesn’t he just promise to put a bunch of business owners, corporate executives, and random homeowners in prison for employing illegal aliens? Stage sting operations in front of the Santa Monica Home Depot (or whatever the gathering place is for day laborers in Santa Monica). Bring RICO cases against WalMart and against REITs who hire illegal-staffed cleaning firms to clean their office buildings. This would solve the problem in about five minutes. Once rich people grokked that they stood a chance of going to prison for employing illegals, nobody would employ illegals. Then they will self-deport. Easy.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Bill

    2 things would have a huge impact:
    1) Implement E-Verify everywhere
    2) No EITC checks to invalid or duplicate SSNs.

  136. @Daniel Williams
    @Anonymous


    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers ... stayed out of politics ...
     
    If this Jew Miller puts his ass on the line and helps Trump get elected, it'll be a lot more done for the common good we all claim to espouse than the non-actions of some whining anon who's done nothing to advance the campaign.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jack Hanson, @Bill

    The AltRight won’t be destroyed from without, it’ll be due to autists demanding 23andMe results from everybody who might want to listen to what the AR has to say.

  137. @Dave Pinsen
    @Lagertha

    Trump is trailing in the polls, despite recent news you'd figure would have given him a tailwind (Orland, Brexit). If he starts consistently running ahead of Hillary in the polls, I would be even more worried for his safety.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Jack Hanson

    Trump is trailing because of +10 D sampling and 5 point margins of error.

    The fact 60% of people support a Muslim ban but he can’t break 50% is telling.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Jack Hanson

    https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/747726060909920260

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack Hanson

    The MSM has tried this spin all throughout the run up to and throughout the primary season. The problem for them is that Trump would then win caucuses and primaries that week and then they had to find something else to attack him on. Since all the primaries and caucuses are over they can peddle their biased polling to their heart's content and then hope it becomes self fulfilling.

    Besides polls at this stage are pointless and usually never indicative of the end result. At this point in 1948 Dewey appeared to have an insurmountable lead over Truman, and Dukakis had a big lead over Bush after the conventions, they both lost. Conversely, most polls had Reagan and Carter in a dead heat in 1980 right before the election and Carter lost badly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  138. @Daniel Williams
    @Anonymous


    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers ... stayed out of politics ...
     
    If this Jew Miller puts his ass on the line and helps Trump get elected, it'll be a lot more done for the common good we all claim to espouse than the non-actions of some whining anon who's done nothing to advance the campaign.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jack Hanson, @Bill

    Nixon said something almost exactly like this about the Neocons, as I dimly recall.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Bill

    Hitler said he liked dogs. Hitler said he like Wagner. Therefore a German Shepherd composed Parsifal.

    Grow up and think, man!

    Replies: @Bill

  139. @JsP
    Samohi class of '03 here.

    The people's republic of Santa Monica doesn't begin to describe it for anyone who hasn't lived in a place like SM.

    we did a student poll for the 2000 election and it was Gore first, Nader a strong second, and bush a distant third.


    The humanities/social studies type teachers were as bad in high school as any left wing college.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    According to an HS student I know here in the burbs of NorCal, his mostly white school would vote about the same as your ’03.

    The upcoming generation that pays attention in school is reeeeeaally left wing. The slackers and drop-outs are our only hope.

  140. @Cagey Beast
    Julia Ioffe's Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries. Oh well, there's apparently still a market for this stuff.

    Replies: @Ed, @Richard, @AnotherDad

    Julia Ioffe’s Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries.

    Steve seems to kinda like her, but I’ve always found Ioffe to be pretty detestable. She’s too blinded by narcissism and prejudice to be a reliable commentator. Being a narcissist, she’s written more than one article citing herself as a great example of how beneficial immigration is for the United States, but she actually illustrates one of the pitfalls. Immigrants come to a new country for many reasons, but commonly one of them is because they have serious grievances against their old one, and those grievances don’t necessarily die in their new environment. In fact, this fresh new country of theirs can seem like a great weapon to settle some old scores back in the Old Country.

    Our cuckoo foreign policy towards Cuba is the clearest example of this phenomenon, but Ioffe has been working hard to make her tortured family history with Russia one of the defining events of the Russo-American relationship. Probably 80% of her journalistic oeuvre is devoted to trying to ratchet up tensions between Russia and the United States, with the ultimate goal the destruction of Vladimir Putin and the social groups he represents. Why some white kids in Dubuque (the weapon to be used against Slavic Russia, even though she clearly doesn’t like those WASPs either) should care about these faraway ethnic squabbles is a problem Ioffe is too self-absorbed to contemplate.

    If you want Ioffe in a nutshell, her fabulously titled “The Russians Think I’m a Russophobe? They’re Right: A Response to Myself” is maybe the key text because it contains so much subtext. Despite considering herself a lucky acquisition for us in other venues, Ioffe concedes here that she doesn’t know or care a great deal about America. It’s all Russia in her world. The last couple paragraphs in particular are more self-revealing than she consciously intended.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/116586/russians-think-im-russophobic-theyre-right-response-self

  141. @Flip
    @Cagey Beast

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many "Abrahamoviches" in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Bill, @Cagey Beast, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    I’ve been on the lookout for an account of this process, whatever it was, myself. It seems to have been started by Stalin and finished by Khrushchev. It also seems to have been the force which drove the “New Left” away from actual leftism and towards neocondom and Cultural Marxism.

  142. @Brutusale
    @Tiny Duck

    The Montessori school vice-principal has made his feelings known.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill

    That’s a beautiful comment.

  143. @JohnnyD
    A much better historical comparison could be made: Miller is like Samuel Gompers, the Jewish American labor leader who fought hard for immigration restriction in the 1920s. But this would be too much to expect from professional victim, Julia Ioffe.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Richard

    A much better historical comparison could be made: Miller is like Samuel Gompers, the Jewish American labor leader who fought hard for immigration restriction in the 1920s. But this would be too much to expect from professional victim, Julia Ioffe.

    Julia knows very little about American history, Jewish or otherwise, because she has almost no interest in it. It’s Russia that fires her mind.

  144. @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems -- as in Mann's "Magic Mountain," tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena's warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica's mild moist climate.

    There's no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @JsP, @JsP

    Fog did not discourage the settlement of San Francisco, but if there’s gold in them thar hills, you’ll put up with a little fog.

    Before the 20th century, living on or near a beach was not considered particularly attractive unless you were a fisherman or had other reason to live on the water. If the beach was near a city you might have summer cottages that were little more than shacks. When the Wright Brothers went to Kitty Hawk the area was barely populated.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    LA had a train that ran down to the Beach Cities to service the beachgoers and the people who lived in those little cottages. In the South Bay the tracks ran along what is essentially now the bike path. Photos from the early 20th century show beach homes scattered among rolling sand dunes.
    A colleague of mine's 100 year old Mom was still living in one of those beach cottages on a 1700 square foot lot on a walk street several blocks from the beach. When she passed away he listed it for $2.2 million and took the first offer above asking, which came in 2 hours after the property was listed. Kicked himself afterward when he had the thought, too late, that he could have ridden a bidding war. There is probably a 2500+ square foot house on the property now.

  145. @Jack D
    @Pat Gilligan

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It's not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    Replies: @5371, @Anonymous, @LKM, @kaganovitch

    Hitchens had a tiny amount of remote Jewish ancestry. On the other hand, von Neumann was a purebred ethnic Ashkenazi.

  146. LKM says:

    For me the most telling Julia Ioffe quote was from her farewell piece to Moscow, written after she went to TNR and relocated back to America

    https://newrepublic.com/article/107651/what-i-will-and-wont-miss-about-living-moscow

    “I won’t miss living in a city where virtually everyone is white and wearing an Orthodox Christian cross, where the only places of worship you see are the onion domes of Orthodox churches, and where the Church and the state are in such close cooperation. The medieval beauty of the architecture wears thin when there’s nothing to contrast it to, and when you know of the abuses happening under its aegis. A monopoly is a monopoly is a monopoly.”

    Just try for a second, to envision the reaction if a western journalist wrote the following about Bangkok:

    Look, pagodas are nice and all, but seriously, this city would be so much better if there weren’t so many Buddhists here. Also, why is everyone brownish-yellow?

    Also, Ioffe gets the architectural history of her hometown wrong. There are perhaps three truly medieval buildings remaining within Moscow, with the vast majority of Moscow’s religious buildings dating from later periods. Unlike Ioffe, I wasn’t born in Russia, have never been there, and certainly don’t have a degree in Russian studies from Princeton, yet somehow I’m aware of this fact.

  147. @Jack D
    @Pat Gilligan

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It's not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    Replies: @5371, @Anonymous, @LKM, @kaganovitch

    von Neumann was born into a Jewish family and converted to Catholicism as an adult before marrying, though he supposedly never took it seriously. Hitchens’ Jewish descent was a small fraction according to his brother.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @LKM

    Actually, Norman Macrae in his biography of von Neumann (1992) reports that von Neumann returned to his Catholic faith in his last few years and was in fact a believer.

  148. @5371
    @Jack D

    In Hitchens' case, that was a delusion or attention-seeking on his part.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt, @Jack D

    His brother Peter claimed that they were only 1/32nd Jewish but I’m not sure I believe him either. In any case Judaism is matrilineal so you could (theoretically) be 1/32 Jewish but still Jewish.

    Once the societal advantage flips, some people will go from hiding a considerable minority background to emphasizing a minimal (or sometimes non-existent) one. It may be that Peter and Christopher had different ideas about whether it was more advantageous to be seen as Jewish or not Jewish in British or American society. It’s also a glass half-empty/half-full thing – Peter the devout Christian prefers to see himself as mostly Christian and Chris the atheist sees himself as partly Jewish.

    Supposedly Hitchen’s mother hid her Jewish background in order to insure that her kids grew up as perfect English upper class gentlemen. It’s possible I suppose but I’m always skeptical about these stories. Madeline Albright claimed that until she became Secretary of State she had no idea that she was Jewish despite the fact that 3 of her 4 grandparents died in the Holocaust. Didn’t she notice that grandma and grandpa weren’t around anymore after the war was over? Even if you could pull the wool over the eyes of a child, didn’t she put 2 and 2 together as an adult?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    I think people who discover and/or deploy a Jewish ancestor later in life are doing it primarily to shield themselves from criticism, as in Hitchens' case.

    Part of the problem is that Jewish teachings suggest a sort of essential Jewishness if matrilineal descent is there, and cultural Judaism will always claim you (or part of you) if you have a Jewish ancestor and are successful.

    On the other hand I have known many people who were part Jewish and they tended to downplay it, not for "disability" reasons but simply because people tend to make assumptions about you that are not accurate, namely, that you must be Jewish. (Which in turn makes you the go to expert on anything having to do with Jews or Israel in the news.) This can be especially tricky for people from Jewish families who converted, or who converted when they grew up.

    Bottom line, I don't believe Madeleine Albright and I don't believe the Hitchens brothers either. But I also don't really care. I think people have a perfect right to declare themselves English, Christian, Jewish, American, whatever. I'm less sure that people have the right to declare themselves seven year old six foot five chinese women, but that's another thread.

    , @Alec Leamas
    @Jack D

    Well, Christopher had a use for his mother's alleged hidden Jewish identity, which was to beat upper class British society over the head with the fact that she felt compelled to hide her ancestry. There's also film of the man celebrating his Jewishness as a sort of hereditary source for his contrarianism and iconoclasm (what some others might call nation-wrecking behavior). This seems to be a strange belief for one to hold as a professed blank-slate militant atheist.

    Peter doesn't seem to get the same utility out of Jewish heritage and his politics are directly contradictory to the politics espoused by most Jews, so it makes sense that he doesn't emphasize it and instead emphasizes his British-ness.

    , @Bee
    @Jack D

    Christopher Hitchens' ancestry is very clear.

    His maternal grandfather converted to Judaism.

    His maternal grandmother was born Jewish. Her own father was born Jewish, as was her own maternal grandfather. Her own maternal grandmother was a convert to Judaism.

    So, that means Hitchens was of 3/16ths Jewish ancestry, but his mother was definitely born into a Jewish household.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  149. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    She is attractive for her age but she is a clear example of why women should be seen and not heard.

  150. @Flip
    @Cagey Beast

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many "Abrahamoviches" in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Bill, @Cagey Beast, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    Yes, it’s a topic that interests quite a bit, not least because we in the Anglosphere and France seem to be at a similar point in our history. There are probably more differences than similarities between then and now but still. It’s interesting in its own right anyway because Russia’s an interesting place.

  151. @Anonymous
    American political discourse basically consists of Jews arguing with other Jews, but now with the new twist of anti-Semitic Alt-Right NEETs harassing them on social media outlets like Twitter that they can't control. It's really pathetic and depressing.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    That’s a hilarious characterization

  152. @Dave Pinsen
    @Lot

    What's unique about Miller is that he's a consummate DC staffer, but he brought an iSteve sensibility with him to Washington.

    Ioffe's article goes details Miller's antipathy toward Rubio due to Gang of 8, etc. It's interesting to consider where Rubio would be today if Miller had gone to work for him instead of Sessions, and had somehow converted Rubio to immigration restrictionism. Rubio might be the nominee today, and outpolling Hillary.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Rube never would have gone for immigration restrictionism. Rube had his heart set on flooding the US with low IQ Aztecs so that he could be part of the white elite like in every other Latin American land. Rubio’s prospects are slim in an Anglo US so he had his heart set on deanglofying it. In a Latinized USA, Anglo politicians would not stand a chance against Hispanics like Rube.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AndrewR

    Or Rubio could have been the one Hispanic politician who turned his back on his ethnic special interest to defend American citizenry. If Rubio had hired Stephen Miller in December 2012 and listened to him about Schumer's bill, he'd be the GOP nominee today.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  153. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    It’s true she is. Here she is discussing Europe, Russia and a lot of us here in this comments section:

    It all feels so pointless to even engage with such people. They seem to have cultivated a remarkable ability not to get anyone else’s position on these matters.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Cagey Beast

    I kind of agree. They're dragging a Jewish perspective into stuff like the EU that really doesn't have a strong valence one way or the other--sure the far right is antisemitic in some countries but Muslims are much more dangerous to the average Jew right now. Do they have to pick a dog in every fight? What's wrong with the Brexit--England was usually one of the least antisemitic countries in Europe (and British Jews seem to agree). Wouldn't it be better if they could go their own way? Why pick fights with Russia? Putin seems fairly neutral on Jewish issues, and a war with Russia has the possibility to be not only bad for the Jews, but bad for everyone else on earth.

  154. @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    The more I think about a "summer tour of the great American National Parks," the more I think, while patting myself on the back is: absolutely brilliant! Trump could go to Wounded Knee (before Rushmore and Crazy Horse!) , and take all that in - I did, one summer...very intense but poignant, and sublime...all, at the same time.

    I must remind Trump people who may read our stuff: No ONE, not - a - one U.S. politician has made any kind of declarative statement to help our Native Americans. Washington plutocrats are too busy helping immigrants from where the F ever before the people we all actually displaced - so embarrassing.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Lagertha

    To truly acknowledge the plight of the Amerinds would call current displacement immigration policies into question.

  155. @iSteveFan
    @Clyde

    He just raised $11 million last week and is trying to do the same this week before the end of the 2nd quarter. If you are a supporter please donate

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    He just raised $11 million last week and is trying to do the same this week before the end of the 2nd quarter. If you are a supporter please donate

    I’m in a bit of a tight spot, financially, for the next three weeks or so, but rest assured, I will be donating generously to the Trump campaign, beginning sometime in July. I hope a bunch of y’all will join me in that (I’m sure more than a few of you already have).

  156. @Jack D
    @5371

    His brother Peter claimed that they were only 1/32nd Jewish but I'm not sure I believe him either. In any case Judaism is matrilineal so you could (theoretically) be 1/32 Jewish but still Jewish.

    Once the societal advantage flips, some people will go from hiding a considerable minority background to emphasizing a minimal (or sometimes non-existent) one. It may be that Peter and Christopher had different ideas about whether it was more advantageous to be seen as Jewish or not Jewish in British or American society. It's also a glass half-empty/half-full thing - Peter the devout Christian prefers to see himself as mostly Christian and Chris the atheist sees himself as partly Jewish.

    Supposedly Hitchen's mother hid her Jewish background in order to insure that her kids grew up as perfect English upper class gentlemen. It's possible I suppose but I'm always skeptical about these stories. Madeline Albright claimed that until she became Secretary of State she had no idea that she was Jewish despite the fact that 3 of her 4 grandparents died in the Holocaust. Didn't she notice that grandma and grandpa weren't around anymore after the war was over? Even if you could pull the wool over the eyes of a child, didn't she put 2 and 2 together as an adult?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Alec Leamas, @Bee

    I think people who discover and/or deploy a Jewish ancestor later in life are doing it primarily to shield themselves from criticism, as in Hitchens’ case.

    Part of the problem is that Jewish teachings suggest a sort of essential Jewishness if matrilineal descent is there, and cultural Judaism will always claim you (or part of you) if you have a Jewish ancestor and are successful.

    On the other hand I have known many people who were part Jewish and they tended to downplay it, not for “disability” reasons but simply because people tend to make assumptions about you that are not accurate, namely, that you must be Jewish. (Which in turn makes you the go to expert on anything having to do with Jews or Israel in the news.) This can be especially tricky for people from Jewish families who converted, or who converted when they grew up.

    Bottom line, I don’t believe Madeleine Albright and I don’t believe the Hitchens brothers either. But I also don’t really care. I think people have a perfect right to declare themselves English, Christian, Jewish, American, whatever. I’m less sure that people have the right to declare themselves seven year old six foot five chinese women, but that’s another thread.

  157. @Jack D
    @Pat Gilligan

    von Neumann and Hitchens were both of Jewish descent and born into converted families. Pre-WWII, it was common for upwardly mobile Jews to convert in order to further their social advancement. It's not surprising that folks like that are ambivalent about religion.

    Replies: @5371, @Anonymous, @LKM, @kaganovitch

    Von Neumann was not born into a converted family. He himself converted to nominal Catholicism before his marriage. There is little evidence of it being necessary for social advancement as his family had already been ennobled. In all likelihood it was to please his wife.He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life, he is quoted as telling Wigner or Ulam (perhaps both?)about some theory ” Die Goyim haben uns übertroffen” He seems only to have taken it seriously on his deathbed.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @kaganovitch


    He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life
     
    Norman Macrae says that von Neumann's personal Jewishness was almost nonexistent--it "never meant much to him" and that his daughter didn't know anything of their Jewish heritage until she was in her teens.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @5371

  158. @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    Fog did not discourage the settlement of San Francisco, but if there's gold in them thar hills, you'll put up with a little fog.

    Before the 20th century, living on or near a beach was not considered particularly attractive unless you were a fisherman or had other reason to live on the water. If the beach was near a city you might have summer cottages that were little more than shacks. When the Wright Brothers went to Kitty Hawk the area was barely populated.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    LA had a train that ran down to the Beach Cities to service the beachgoers and the people who lived in those little cottages. In the South Bay the tracks ran along what is essentially now the bike path. Photos from the early 20th century show beach homes scattered among rolling sand dunes.
    A colleague of mine’s 100 year old Mom was still living in one of those beach cottages on a 1700 square foot lot on a walk street several blocks from the beach. When she passed away he listed it for $2.2 million and took the first offer above asking, which came in 2 hours after the property was listed. Kicked himself afterward when he had the thought, too late, that he could have ridden a bidding war. There is probably a 2500+ square foot house on the property now.

  159. @V Vega
    Does Julia Ioffe have anyone overseeing her ignorant hack diatribes? The Nazi theme is SO tired.

    Anyone who's somewhat versed in WWII history knows Goebbels was a real piece of work, with quite a backstory, and doesn't reflect Miller's life, or ambitions, worth noting.

    Miller's glare doesn't make Miller any more like Goebbels than Julia Ioffe being an hysterical cunt makes her the new Eva Braun.

    Miller has a glare. Julia Ioffe is a cunt. That's all! Leave the Nazi's alone!!

    Replies: @Jack D

    The fact that Miller is Jewish really spoils the Goebbels angle. If Ioffe (like Erdely) had free license to write her characters instead of being forced to deal with reality, no way would she have made the American Goebbels character Jewish. The fact that Trump’s daughter is converted to Judaism and that his real estate organization was full of Jews is also a messy detail if you are trying to paint Trump as the American Hitler. When you are writing to fit the Narrative, reality is so inconvenient. You can try to write your way around it, but you can only get so far with that approach. An audience of True Believers is willing to suspend its disbelief if that’s what’s necessary to keep the plot moving (oh, the last 5 episodes were just a bad dream, look over here – a squirrel) but most people see the holes in the story and stop buying into it.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @Jack D

    I agree.

    There may be people in these parts who are not so happy that Miller is a Jew, as are a number of Trump's business allies and some family.

    But politically, it's a very good thing. It scores major anti-Hitler and anti-Fascist points, while not larding and undermining the campaign with phony Affirmative Action tokens. Miller himself brings a real sharpness that Trump, in his unfortunately too unreflective way, doesn't, but needs on his side.

  160. @Alfa158
    @GOUSAAmer114

    Some polls are also constructed as push polls. They are intended to come up with a certain result in order to advance an agenda such as proving that there is wider support for a political agenda than there really is, or demoralizing your political opponents from thinking they can win.
    One recent poll I saw had Clinton up by double digits on Trump, but the same poll had Gary Johnson at 10%. The highest percentage of the Presidential vote any Libertarian has ever gotten was 2%. You look at that poll and ask yourself the following four questions:

    - Does 10% of the electorate actually know enough about the Libertarian Party to support their candidate?
    - Could 10% of the electorate even pick Gary Johnson out of a line-up, never mind vote for him?
    - If you conducted a poll by visiting every marijuana dispensary in the US and asking the staff and patrons who they plan to vote for, would the result differ to any significant extent from the result of this poll?
    - Really?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Right. Most polls, like most studies, have an expected answer. Here are two ways to ask an immigration question:
    1) Do you support a path to citizenship for immigrants who play by the rules and pay their taxes?
    2) Do you support the use of an E-Verify system to ensure that unemployed American citizens get first crack at new jobs?

    Both are highly loaded questions, but each goes a different direction. Then to further muddy the waters, for a candidate poll you can:
    tilt the mix D or R
    pick likely voters
    pick registered voters
    ask anybody who will answer the phone

    Polls are crap (look at the Brexit polling), but they are instant stories for the morons on TV yakking about the endless horse race that is this presidential campaign.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Jim Don Bob

    Brexit polling showed a close result, it was. The final polls made assumptions that young people would turnout but that the white working class wouldn't, they were wrong on both counts. Trump will be hoping for similar in November.

  161. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    Greek is a nationality, not a race so telling a Greek to get out of your country is not racist. Nationalist maybe, and that is a good thing, but not racist. Islam is a religion, so telling Muslims to get out is also not racist. Don’t let the LLSM confuse you with their lies.

  162. @Anonymous
    Miller is a good public speaker and an asset to the Trump campaign as a force multiplier. Therefore he gets "the treatment" from the opposition.

    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.

    1. We know the Establishment lies to us about everything. 2. Therefore why trust their polling?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @GOUSAAmer114, @woodNfish

    Hope everyone is spreading the word on these preezy polls with the D sample skewed to the moon so as to depict Hillary as coronated.

    Why should I care if ignorant grubers continue to believe the LLSM and government lies? It will just make their agony when Trump wins and they crash and burn that much more enjoyable. F all the traitors!

  163. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    white south africa is your future. The real sin of apartheid was not racial discrimination, which the ANC gov indulges in against whites. It was that whites were frank about what it takes to survive as a white tribe in africa

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    The South Africans would have been better off having borders and importing Europeans to work in their mines instead of having Apartheid.

    Replies: @Hare Krishna

  164. @Stogumber
    @Tiny Duck

    Dear Mr. Rizzo,
    you said that Whites fear a loss of "privilege".
    I'd say that Whites fear a loss of their jobs, their homes, their cars, protection from criminality and enough money to afford a family.
    All this should not, and need not, be a "privilege". It definitely wasn't a White privilege in the times when America or Europe was "great".
    A sane Left would not try to take these goods away - or shame Whites for to cling to them -, but concentrate on how non-White immigrants can arrive at the same level as Whites.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    I’ll presume to speak for all “whites” – I’m the whitest person you’d ever meet who is not an albino: What we fear is a loss of our posterity.

    It doesn’t get more fundamental than that.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Coemgen

    I also fear losing my posterior

  165. @Richard S
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    I read it more or less as "yoffa"

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Richard, I think this letter “I” is replaceable with the letter “J.” Years ago I met a man named Eagle Joseph, I thought I was going to meet a native America. His name was spelled Yiegal Yousef.

  166. @Ed
    @GOUSAAmer114

    I think it's just the luck of the draw really. I don't think it's possible for pollsters to control or weight their polls for all of the various permutations of the electorate.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If the errors were truly random they would fall one way or the other equally, but if the error is always in the D’s favor (vs. actual election results) that means that there is some bias in the methodology.

    It doesn’t necessarily mean that the pollster is in the can for one side (though that is sometimes true). For example, in the famous Dewey beats Truman poll of 1948, the poll was conducted by telephone and it turned out that in 1948 there were still enough poor, pro-Democrat voters who didn’t have phones to skew the results – a sample of people with phones was not a truly representative sample of the voter pool.

    It’s possible for a poll to just randomly capture a non-representative group of voters, but according to the laws of statistics, if you randomly sample a sufficiently large group the probability that your sample represents the answer for the entire population are very high. That works all the time if you are fishing colored marbles out of a bowl but humans are more complex – sometimes they tell pollsters one thing and do something else in the privacy of the voting booth. The way they answer depends on how the question is phrased, etc.

  167. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Flip

    "They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants"

    Theory is that Stalin was shocked when Israel's first Ambassador, Golda Meir, arrived in Moscow and went to synagogue, where she was surrounded by 50,000 ecstatic Russian Jews chanting her name in the streets. Loyalty to any non-Soviet entity (never mind an ethnic group) was not considered A Good Thing.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Choral_Synagogue#/media/File:Golda_Meir_Moscow_1948.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Cagey Beast

    Stalin’s realization might be part of the answer but it can’t be the whole story. After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism. Add in the fact that Communism tends to bring out the worst tendencies in people, rather than appealing to their “better angels” as Lincoln said. You can see (although anti-Semitism doesn’t seem to have made a big comeback) that post- Communist Russia is even more Russian acting now.

    You can see the same thing in China – Communism is just a thin veneer on top of 5,000 years of Chinese history so as time goes on Chinese communist governments act less communist and more Chinese. People really do revert to type.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    I don't think so. China's history seems less cyclic, and more a long descent from the Tang dynasty's cultural zenith. Yes, dynasties come and go, and start with a burst of energy and productivity... but it seems like each dynasty got more mercantile, less aristocratic, less artistic, etc, until you had the full blown proletarization of culture under Mao. Now businessmen in suits spit on public transport and their children defecate in the streets, and there is nothing more complicated in their heads than how to screw their neighbors economically, eat the fried testicles of endangered species, and collect knockoffs of western luxury goods.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Antonymous
    @Jack D


    After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism.
     
    I wish this were parody. Where is the acknowledgment of the outsized Jewish role in Bolshevik philosophy, politics, and execution? Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted. Of all times, some certainly warranted, why focus on anti-Semitism in Communist Russia? If anything, Russian Jewish groups should do some soul searching on their role in the second largest mass murder (Mao being first) of the 20th century.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  168. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Stalin's realization might be part of the answer but it can't be the whole story. After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism. Add in the fact that Communism tends to bring out the worst tendencies in people, rather than appealing to their "better angels" as Lincoln said. You can see (although anti-Semitism doesn't seem to have made a big comeback) that post- Communist Russia is even more Russian acting now.

    You can see the same thing in China - Communism is just a thin veneer on top of 5,000 years of Chinese history so as time goes on Chinese communist governments act less communist and more Chinese. People really do revert to type.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonymous

    I don’t think so. China’s history seems less cyclic, and more a long descent from the Tang dynasty’s cultural zenith. Yes, dynasties come and go, and start with a burst of energy and productivity… but it seems like each dynasty got more mercantile, less aristocratic, less artistic, etc, until you had the full blown proletarization of culture under Mao. Now businessmen in suits spit on public transport and their children defecate in the streets, and there is nothing more complicated in their heads than how to screw their neighbors economically, eat the fried testicles of endangered species, and collect knockoffs of western luxury goods.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    The Tang Dynasty was more mercantile than subsequent dynasties.

  169. @Jean Cocteausten
    @Tiny Duck

    You are one of an army of erudite, unwitting apologists for global neoliberalism.

    Americans became tired of being chained to a treadmill in order to afford the piles of consumer goods that must be sold each year to keep corporations profitable. So new consumers must be created.

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end - because the demand for more profit never ends.

    How does it feel to be the intellectual vanguard for the likes of Wal-Mart, Disney and General Motors?

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Thea, @Antonymous

    With neo liberalism (or globalism or leftism by any other name) the only identity that is allowed to matter is that of an atomized consumer or producer.

    Anything innate was not freely chosen (ethnicity, nationality, sex) or not developed by the individual ( religion) doesn’t count as part of the allowed identity.

    So he views us all as billions of potential Walmart shoppers and nothing more. Certainly no concept of “my sweet countrymen. ”

    His ilk view this as just fine.

  170. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off,

    You mean after the ethnic Russians were brutalized.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    No one treats Russians worse than their fellow Russians.

    In this respect, they are typical white people. "White nationalists" keep thinking that if only they could get rid of the Joos and the Negroes and the immigrants then everything would be hunky dory but JP Morgan and Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford, etc. were 100% pure white people who didn't mind sending Pinkertons to shoot their fellow whites, nor were they picky about hiring non-whites if they were 5 cents cheaper. Hillary Clinton is a 100% pure white person who would just as well stab you in the back as say hello to you.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anowow

  171. @Jack D
    @V Vega

    The fact that Miller is Jewish really spoils the Goebbels angle. If Ioffe (like Erdely) had free license to write her characters instead of being forced to deal with reality, no way would she have made the American Goebbels character Jewish. The fact that Trump's daughter is converted to Judaism and that his real estate organization was full of Jews is also a messy detail if you are trying to paint Trump as the American Hitler. When you are writing to fit the Narrative, reality is so inconvenient. You can try to write your way around it, but you can only get so far with that approach. An audience of True Believers is willing to suspend its disbelief if that's what's necessary to keep the plot moving (oh, the last 5 episodes were just a bad dream, look over here - a squirrel) but most people see the holes in the story and stop buying into it.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    I agree.

    There may be people in these parts who are not so happy that Miller is a Jew, as are a number of Trump’s business allies and some family.

    But politically, it’s a very good thing. It scores major anti-Hitler and anti-Fascist points, while not larding and undermining the campaign with phony Affirmative Action tokens. Miller himself brings a real sharpness that Trump, in his unfortunately too unreflective way, doesn’t, but needs on his side.

  172. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Erudite? I object. Platitudinous and cliche-ridden.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Erudite? I object. Platitudinous and cliche-ridden.

    Its kind of a sliding scale; he didn’t just denounce as “rednecks” with a “micropenis,” so he gets to be labelled “erudite.”

  173. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Flip

    "They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants"

    Theory is that Stalin was shocked when Israel's first Ambassador, Golda Meir, arrived in Moscow and went to synagogue, where she was surrounded by 50,000 ecstatic Russian Jews chanting her name in the streets. Loyalty to any non-Soviet entity (never mind an ethnic group) was not considered A Good Thing.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Choral_Synagogue#/media/File:Golda_Meir_Moscow_1948.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Cagey Beast

    I think they also made a lot of enemies over the years. Those people shot by the Cheka and NKVD shot during various waves of purges, or for “desertion” during the war, had relatives and friends.

  174. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    You are assuming that current trends will continue.
    Lots of Vietnamese of Chinese ethnicity thought so too. I’m sure that was mych discussed as they bobbed around the South China Sea.

    “Asians” in Uganda thought so too.

    There is absolutely no reason why a future immigration policy could not be all-white, as Australia’s used to be. Bring in 100 million whites over 30 years, deport illegals and their children on the legal principles that a thief cannot convey good title and that Mexico considers them citizens (make dual citizenship illegal too) and the “inevitability” doesn’t look so inevitable.

    An absurd concept? Yeah, like Brexit was absurd.

    The White race is awakening.

    Alternatively, demand reciprocity. 30 million plus “Mexicans” in the US? Demand Mexico grant full dual citizenship to 30 million white Norteamericanos. They can vote in a Mexican election to seize part of Mexico. That’s basically where Texas came from.

    There are all sorts of intriguing possibilities. Not all involve submission or bloodshed.

  175. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Every election is different etc. but I am automatically skeptical of falling for "polls are skewed" talk considering what happened in 2012.

    The one thing that could maybe work in Trump's favor is the high % of "other" votes right now, which most likely will not be the case on Election Day.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Every election is different etc. but I am automatically skeptical of falling for “polls are skewed” talk considering what happened in 2012.

    As well you should be. Never-the-less, its not a typical year by any means (plus its still merely June!), and the Republican National Convention is going to be a game changer this time out. More people will likely watch Trump deliver his acceptance address, than previously viewed the Super Bowl. Its going to be one of the biggest TV events in history. And Trump doubtless has plans to take advantage of it.

  176. @Larry, San Francisco
    @SPMoore8

    No, I know a lot of Russian Jews. All of them hate communism and most are not overly fond of leftists or NAMS. If they had gone to Israel they most would have joined Avigdor Lieberman's party which is to the right of Likud. I guess some of their children could have been brainwashed in school though. They are quite a contrast to the grandchildren of 1900 emigres.
    I think it is interesting that there are some southern CA Jewish intellectuals who are not fans of increasing migration. You could include Dennis Prager and even Dr Drew (who usually agrees with Adam Carolla). I guess having real world experience of what mass immigration is like makes a difference.
    When I was a kid, I knew a lot of Jews and Swedes who lived on the south side of Chicago and were forced to flee their neighborhoods like Steve's father in law. They were the only Jews/Scandinavians I knew who were Nixon supporters.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charlesz Martel

    A surprising amount of Jews thought that Nixon was very good on Israel. When he basically replenished their arms during the Yom Kippur war in 73; and then went to a low-level nuclear alert when Brezhnev threatened to get involved militarily to save the encircled Egyptian Third Army and told Brezhnev to basically fuck off, many felt thay he may have saved Israel.
    Only fucking ingrate liberal Jews would forget that. Those who didn’t have their heads up their ass (admittedly, and sadly, a minority of American Jews) never will forget that.

  177. OT: I am writing this under a different moniker than my usual one, Steve knows who I am.

    Amidst the admittedly very important events of the Orlando shooting and the Brexit, the Australian election is set to take place in 4 days and has gone overlooked on iSteve. This election is of both the House and Senate, so this is as big as it gets. I spent 2-3 hours writing a post to explain everything, but unfortunately the browser died. (!!!)

    In a nutshell, my idea is that Australia lacks a “Numbers USA” style website or ratings of individual Australian politicians on the basis of legal immigration, and needs that and a similar election guide by electorate. There is a “Sustainable Population Party” (formerly Stable Population Party) but they only have 4 candidates. There are about 76 seats in the Senate and 150 seats in the House, so something more extensive is really warranted. The beauty of this approach is that politicians are not monolithic on immigration, and similar approaches have been used to considerable success by Numbers USA, the NRA, AIPAC, etc. Apply the filter and let the politicians get the message. This is the best and quickest approach in a country where both major parties want (on average) high levels of immigration, for who knows what reason.

    I am not sure whether something of value might be crowdsourced in 2-3 days, but who knows what is possible. If we could get someone on Breitbart onside it would help a lot, if not in the actual help with the guide, at least with the publicity. The largest countries of origin for immigrants to Australia are China, India and then it trails off after that. These are not majority Muslim countries, so whoever helps would need to understand that it is the overall immigration level that is the problem, not just the Muslim issue.

    Australia ties Canada in net migration rate, equal first in the Anglosphere in immigration rate. Amongst white countries, only Spain has a higher level of immigration and population. Australia is a valuable ally of the USA and it would be a shame to let it slip out of the Anglosphere through rapid demographic change.

    Any comment? Hopefully I can get something like my original post up soon, which was longer and properly researched.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Anonym

    Ok, I've had some time to recompose the original comment re: the Australian election on July 2. Unlike the USA, Australia's primary source of immigration has been legal immigration, not illegal immigration. While Australia has been offered a real choice on illegal immigration which to their credit the Liberals were effective in halting, there has been no choice offered on legal immigration by either of the major parties or for that matter, the Greens.

    The government media outlet, the ABC, does not even list immigration as a major policy.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-13/election-2016-policy-big-issues/7387588

    The Australian Labor Party (ALP) in particular does not want to debate immigration.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/federal-election-2016-coalition-labor-back-away-from-health-immigration-debates-20160623-gpqil1.html

    In terms of the world, there are few white countries taking in more migrants per capita than Australia. Of white countries above Australia's population, there is only Spain ahead of Australia (would make a good story as to who they are taking in and why). Australia is next and practically tied with Canada. Australia is first in the Anglosphere of its size or greater.

    Country | Net migration per thousand p.a. | population
    Luxembourg 17.16 0.5M
    Spain 8.31 47M
    Norway 7.25 5M
    Belgium 5.87 11M
    Canada 5.66 35M
    Australia 5.65 23M

    United States 3.86 319M

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_migration_rate


    As I said before, most of the immigration is non-white. Most is from India, China and the Phillipines, with some white refugees from the UK and South Africa.

    http://blog.id.com.au/2011/population/australian-demographic-trends/australia-newest-migrants/
    https://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/02key

    Really, we should be aiming for an immigration moratorium to at least halt the demographic change. There is no white country producing much in the way of surplus, so there is no real point to keeping the borders open in the hope we get some compatible immigration. Taking in more Euro migrants only robs Peter to pay Paul. The only white countries breeding at above replacement levels are Israel at about TFR of 3 depending on source, and Argentina at 2.3. It's very sad.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate

    Unfortunately, history shows there is no real difference between the major parties on immigration. Liberal Howard's tenure oversaw a doubling of the immigration rate. Liberals have been in power from 9/2013, previously ALP from 12/2007, previously Liberals from 3/1996, previously ALP from 3/1983, previously Liberals from 11/1975.

    https://www.border.gov.au/Factsheets/PublishingImages/02key-graph-2008-12.gif.jpg

    Even Liberal Cory Bernardi, who has good views on Muslim immigration, is either not particularly strong on the legal immigration question, or it is not overly evident where he stands.

    http://www.corybernardi.com/learning_from_british_mistakes_on_islamic_migration
    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/cory-bernardi-branded-an-embarrassment-for-refugee-comments-20150907-gjhb4h

    So, while I am not overly hopeful of finding that much difference between candidates, perhaps there will be some and where there is some, that is a start. I am not sure whether it has merit but since Numbers USA has merit, it seems relatively likely that an Australian equivalent may also have merit. Whether this can be done in time... not sure. Perhaps difficult at this late stage. I welcome comment.

  178. @iSteveFan

    I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off,
     
    You mean after the ethnic Russians were brutalized.

    Replies: @Jack D

    No one treats Russians worse than their fellow Russians.

    In this respect, they are typical white people. “White nationalists” keep thinking that if only they could get rid of the Joos and the Negroes and the immigrants then everything would be hunky dory but JP Morgan and Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford, etc. were 100% pure white people who didn’t mind sending Pinkertons to shoot their fellow whites, nor were they picky about hiring non-whites if they were 5 cents cheaper. Hillary Clinton is a 100% pure white person who would just as well stab you in the back as say hello to you.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Jack D

    But American workers less riven by identity politics and bowling alone were able to eventually get protections such as a 40 hour work week, etc.

    The issue isn't that people won't exploit their co-ethnics, but that the exploited can organize more effectively when they are relatively homogenous.

    , @anowow
    @Jack D

    We have Swedish Hank Paulson who'd happily cut the social safety net and son of Erin Paul Ryan. There's a fellow who might eventually be responsible for death panels for Gen X and Gen Y grandmas.

    The Great Migration of Catholic whites, which did affect unskilled labor, was made possible by Northern white industrialists looking for cheap labor. Where were Jews then? Peddling ribbons and baubles, doing some import-export and cotton factoring down in Savannah. But not affecting national policy.

    No Jews prodded the British elites who let peasants in England, Scotland and Ireland all basically die off, leave, or be hung or forced to emigrate as vagabonds. I wonder if the decided lack of noblesse oblige was a result of a largely new British elite that emerged after the Wars of the Roses and the expansion of the Tudor government that was joined by a mercantile Whig oligarchy during the 17th century.

    Even an old nobility like the Scottish chiefs had no problems screwing their people over in the 18th and 19th centuries. A really twisted thing is how all things Highland, including kilts, became so faddish during the era of the Highland Clearances. Tellingly, Harriet Beecher Stowe, of Uncle Tom's Cabin fame, was in the Highlands during the clearances, and served as a propagandist for the Scottish elite. This sick juxtaposition can perhaps be compared to localism and authenticity fads among SWPLs which occur while actual communities are being hollowed out.

    Russian elites and Polish elites enserfed their co-ethnics.

    The point is Jewish chauvinism towards gentiles becomes particularly destructive when white elites view the lower orders as Other and different and as unworthy cattle, meant to be abused. Any chauvinism by external groups becomes worse for less powerful individuals in a community in the absence of solidarity.


    Jews in the Southern US had a different relationship with the surrounding gentiles then did their Ashkenazi coreligionists who settled up North. The latter combined the old hatreds of Eastern Europe and a contempt (deserved and undeserved) for the Slavic muzhik with the Yankee contempt of white Southerners and ethnic whites.

    This contempt was the result of, and made possible, by preexisting WASP dislike of non-WASP whites, combined with excessive paternalism in regards to POC.


    Electing Trump and getting people to discuss the role of the Jewish community in American politics and culture is easy compared to dealing with the issue of the lack of solidarity the bourgeois and aspirational whites in this country have for their countrymen.

  179. There is no plan or conspiracy. Just as there is no plan or conspiracy for blacks to play in the NBA.

    If you’re saying blacks aren’t smart or industrious enough to make a conspiracy work, I’d be willing to indulge you.

    If you’re saying Jews are in the same position, I’d have to disagree.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Svigor

    Smart and industrious, yes, but also disputatious with each other. I don't see Stephen Miller conspiring with Julia, or Max Blumenthal with David Frum, etc.

  180. JackD, I’m pretty sure you’ve seen my MR immigration voting records links several times by now, so if you’re still pretending equivalence, you just don’t want to know the truth (if I’m wrong, and by some miracle you’ve managed to miss them every time, I’d be happy to post them again).

    TL;DR version for those who haven’t seen them: white pols vote about 55 to 45 against open borders. Jewish pols vote 100% for open borders. Given Jewish over-representation, this puts open borders over the top.

    Equivalence = the usual leftist lies. Odd how they seem to emanate so frequently from “rightists.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Svigor

    Only 100%. They should try harder. Stakhanov achieved a 110% voting record!

  181. iSteveFan says:

    No one treats Russians worse than their fellow Russians.

    The communists treated Russians far worse.

    JP Morgan and Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford, etc. were 100% pure white people who didn’t mind sending Pinkertons to shoot their fellow whites, nor were they picky about hiring non-whites if they were 5 cents cheaper.

    They might have been robber barons, but at least they were patriotic robber barons. Ford actually treated his workers pretty well and led the effort in raising wages. Recall his workers could afford to buy his cars. Using security personnel to prevent the destruction of company property is not a sin. As for hiring blacks, Ford gave an opportunity to American blacks who could cut the mustard. I think most of us on this blog understand that blacks who are descendant of American slavery are part of our nation. There is nothing wrong with hiring qualified blacks.

    PS. Ford also created one heck of an aircraft assembly line during WW2.

  182. Bipedal killers of Amerinds were 100% Amerind before the White Man showed up. After the White Man showed up, puh-leeeenty of Amerinds teamed up with him in various wars against their fellow Amerinds (and vice-versa, plenty of examples of YT being joined by Amerinds in fights against YT).

    Does this mean Amerinds sit around blaming Amerinds for their loss of the continent? That they demand their fellow Amerinds pretend lack of racial unity among Amerinds was to blame? That they blame Amerinds and YT equally for their loss?

    No.

  183. @Jean Cocteausten
    @Tiny Duck

    You are one of an army of erudite, unwitting apologists for global neoliberalism.

    Americans became tired of being chained to a treadmill in order to afford the piles of consumer goods that must be sold each year to keep corporations profitable. So new consumers must be created.

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end - because the demand for more profit never ends.

    How does it feel to be the intellectual vanguard for the likes of Wal-Mart, Disney and General Motors?

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Thea, @Antonymous

    This is where you come in. You cheer on every plane load of immigrants, but then you set to work destroying every traditional way of life, both ours and theirs, creating a void that only consumer goods can fill. This is why immigration and social justice can never end – because the demand for more profit never ends.

    Agreed. I also see immigration boosters to the west cheering on “the end of extreme poverty,” an innocuous and cheery-sounding statement which I take to mean removing indigenous peoples from subsistence lands. Then “they’ll earn x dollars per day!” and “have access to education and medical care,” yada yada, neglecting to mention their culture and traditions are based in that forest or basin wanted for timber or agriculture. Surely they’ll be happier in a slum of Kinshasa than their native forestland.

    See this PR from USAID, hand in glove with global neoliberalism:

    EXTREME POVERTY OFTEN REFERS TO EARNING LESS THAN
    $1.90 per day.*

    But extreme poverty is more than just a number – it is the denial of basic freedoms and human dignity.

    People living in extreme poverty are forced to make impossible choices daily between food, medicine, housing, or education.

    USAID is committed to eradicating extreme poverty within the next 15 years.

  184. @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems -- as in Mann's "Magic Mountain," tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena's warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica's mild moist climate.

    There's no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @JsP, @JsP

    Interesting. I recall reading that the original Spanish settlement of Los Angeles was built inland due to some Spanish regulation about avoiding maritime attacks.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Dave Pinsen

    I had never heard that one before, the rationale I did hear was that the LA river in what is now the downtown area is the only place in Southern California where you had a reliable year round supply of potable water in the open. This allowed enough farming and livestock to support a community of about 10000 people. The only other significant open water at that time was the marshlands at what is now Marina Del Rey where the LA River flowed to the Pacific prior to the early 1800's. That would not have been a healthy area to live and because there was no natural port there, there was no other incentive to settle in the area. The only other water was the seasonal winter floods, and Lake Elsinore on the other side of the Santa Ana Mountains which is the only natural lake in SoCal, but even Lake Elsinore disappeared during droughts.

  185. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    So here’s where your idea turns bad: the Declaration of Independence stated “all men are created equal” in relation to God — “endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.” The founders sought to emulate the Christian ideal of an ever-loving God with their concept of blind justice and equal rights for citizens. All men equal under God and the justice system — too quaint for the modern era apparently and a far cry from your disparate impact analysis, which damns the very descendants of those who built the nation.

    Equality under the law is guaranteed, while equality of outcomes is not. While you seek to blame “privilege” and discrimination for the latter inequality, you should note the only laws that enshrine discrimination are as follows: Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact jurisprudence, and Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.

    • Replies: @Antonymous
    @Antonymous

    A little addendum, just noting how creepily similar Rizzo's quote is to Engels and Marx:


    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived [...]
    For others, it kindles displacement and loss. [...] cannot survive in the new nation. [...] kill a bad idea.
     
    vs:

    Force [...] in the words of Marx, is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one, that it is the instrument with the aid of which social movement forces its way through and shatters the dead, fossilised political forms
    --Engels, elaborating on Marx
     

    Bolsheviks were every bit as ideologically dangerous as Nazis, targeting huge swaths of the population for extermination. Would that our schools were even close to teaching the dangers of "inequality" and resentment-based revolution. Solzhenitsyn should be required reading.
    , @Anton
    @Antonymous

    Instead I like his idea. There is not an explicit or forced equality od outcomes, of course, but a balance which discourages or prevent excessive power concentration on excessively few people, which is known to kill occupation and hence the economy as well.
    But I find it better if such counterpower is something is self organized and a global knowledge of the economy is necessary to react.
    The thing is, it's sometimes because of discrimination, but it becomes vicious and regressive if this notion is abused to request privileges and affirmative action. But certainly disavantaged people should unite and compete less.

  186. @Jack D
    @5371

    His brother Peter claimed that they were only 1/32nd Jewish but I'm not sure I believe him either. In any case Judaism is matrilineal so you could (theoretically) be 1/32 Jewish but still Jewish.

    Once the societal advantage flips, some people will go from hiding a considerable minority background to emphasizing a minimal (or sometimes non-existent) one. It may be that Peter and Christopher had different ideas about whether it was more advantageous to be seen as Jewish or not Jewish in British or American society. It's also a glass half-empty/half-full thing - Peter the devout Christian prefers to see himself as mostly Christian and Chris the atheist sees himself as partly Jewish.

    Supposedly Hitchen's mother hid her Jewish background in order to insure that her kids grew up as perfect English upper class gentlemen. It's possible I suppose but I'm always skeptical about these stories. Madeline Albright claimed that until she became Secretary of State she had no idea that she was Jewish despite the fact that 3 of her 4 grandparents died in the Holocaust. Didn't she notice that grandma and grandpa weren't around anymore after the war was over? Even if you could pull the wool over the eyes of a child, didn't she put 2 and 2 together as an adult?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Alec Leamas, @Bee

    Well, Christopher had a use for his mother’s alleged hidden Jewish identity, which was to beat upper class British society over the head with the fact that she felt compelled to hide her ancestry. There’s also film of the man celebrating his Jewishness as a sort of hereditary source for his contrarianism and iconoclasm (what some others might call nation-wrecking behavior). This seems to be a strange belief for one to hold as a professed blank-slate militant atheist.

    Peter doesn’t seem to get the same utility out of Jewish heritage and his politics are directly contradictory to the politics espoused by most Jews, so it makes sense that he doesn’t emphasize it and instead emphasizes his British-ness.

  187. @Jack D
    @5371

    His brother Peter claimed that they were only 1/32nd Jewish but I'm not sure I believe him either. In any case Judaism is matrilineal so you could (theoretically) be 1/32 Jewish but still Jewish.

    Once the societal advantage flips, some people will go from hiding a considerable minority background to emphasizing a minimal (or sometimes non-existent) one. It may be that Peter and Christopher had different ideas about whether it was more advantageous to be seen as Jewish or not Jewish in British or American society. It's also a glass half-empty/half-full thing - Peter the devout Christian prefers to see himself as mostly Christian and Chris the atheist sees himself as partly Jewish.

    Supposedly Hitchen's mother hid her Jewish background in order to insure that her kids grew up as perfect English upper class gentlemen. It's possible I suppose but I'm always skeptical about these stories. Madeline Albright claimed that until she became Secretary of State she had no idea that she was Jewish despite the fact that 3 of her 4 grandparents died in the Holocaust. Didn't she notice that grandma and grandpa weren't around anymore after the war was over? Even if you could pull the wool over the eyes of a child, didn't she put 2 and 2 together as an adult?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Alec Leamas, @Bee

    Christopher Hitchens’ ancestry is very clear.

    His maternal grandfather converted to Judaism.

    His maternal grandmother was born Jewish. Her own father was born Jewish, as was her own maternal grandfather. Her own maternal grandmother was a convert to Judaism.

    So, that means Hitchens was of 3/16ths Jewish ancestry, but his mother was definitely born into a Jewish household.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bee

    Peter Hitchens thinks Christopher Hitchens' late-in-life decision that he was Jewish was silly.

    Replies: @Amasius

  188. @Bee
    @Jack D

    Christopher Hitchens' ancestry is very clear.

    His maternal grandfather converted to Judaism.

    His maternal grandmother was born Jewish. Her own father was born Jewish, as was her own maternal grandfather. Her own maternal grandmother was a convert to Judaism.

    So, that means Hitchens was of 3/16ths Jewish ancestry, but his mother was definitely born into a Jewish household.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Peter Hitchens thinks Christopher Hitchens’ late-in-life decision that he was Jewish was silly.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    @Steve Sailer

    Hitch was a great pick-up for the tribe, though; one of the best prose stylists of his generation.

    Replies: @5371

  189. @Antonymous
    @Tiny Duck


    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.
     

    So here's where your idea turns bad: the Declaration of Independence stated "all men are created equal" in relation to God -- "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights." The founders sought to emulate the Christian ideal of an ever-loving God with their concept of blind justice and equal rights for citizens. All men equal under God and the justice system -- too quaint for the modern era apparently and a far cry from your disparate impact analysis, which damns the very descendants of those who built the nation.

    Equality under the law is guaranteed, while equality of outcomes is not. While you seek to blame "privilege" and discrimination for the latter inequality, you should note the only laws that enshrine discrimination are as follows: Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact jurisprudence, and Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.

    Replies: @Antonymous, @Anton

    A little addendum, just noting how creepily similar Rizzo’s quote is to Engels and Marx:

    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived […]
    For others, it kindles displacement and loss. […] cannot survive in the new nation. […] kill a bad idea.

    vs:

    Force […] in the words of Marx, is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one, that it is the instrument with the aid of which social movement forces its way through and shatters the dead, fossilised political forms
    –Engels, elaborating on Marx

    Bolsheviks were every bit as ideologically dangerous as Nazis, targeting huge swaths of the population for extermination. Would that our schools were even close to teaching the dangers of “inequality” and resentment-based revolution. Solzhenitsyn should be required reading.

  190. @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems -- as in Mann's "Magic Mountain," tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena's warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica's mild moist climate.

    There's no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @JsP, @JsP

    SM didn’t strike me as sunny. And definitely the fog was still there in the mornings at Samohi (close enough to the ocean to just barely have a view–standing at the right place in no fog).

    I still don’t see how you think the Bay area has better weather. The Pacific ocean is cold. So the coast from San Diego to SB has the best weather in the world. SF is too far north.

    Your take only makes sense if you’re comparing the valley to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It’s just better.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    "Your take only makes sense if you’re comparing the [San Fernando] valley [weather] to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It’s just better."

    But only 12,500 people are allowed to live along the 26 miles of ocean in Malibu. And Rob Reiner and Barbra Streisand are going to keep it that way. You might say that Malibuites are privileged xenophobes who hate and fear the huddled masses of the San Fernando Valley yearning to breathe free in non-existent high rises overlooking their beachfront homes in Malibu, but then you aren't holding the Microphone are you?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  191. @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    No one treats Russians worse than their fellow Russians.

    In this respect, they are typical white people. "White nationalists" keep thinking that if only they could get rid of the Joos and the Negroes and the immigrants then everything would be hunky dory but JP Morgan and Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford, etc. were 100% pure white people who didn't mind sending Pinkertons to shoot their fellow whites, nor were they picky about hiring non-whites if they were 5 cents cheaper. Hillary Clinton is a 100% pure white person who would just as well stab you in the back as say hello to you.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anowow

    But American workers less riven by identity politics and bowling alone were able to eventually get protections such as a 40 hour work week, etc.

    The issue isn’t that people won’t exploit their co-ethnics, but that the exploited can organize more effectively when they are relatively homogenous.

  192. @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    SM didn't strike me as sunny. And definitely the fog was still there in the mornings at Samohi (close enough to the ocean to just barely have a view--standing at the right place in no fog).

    I still don't see how you think the Bay area has better weather. The Pacific ocean is cold. So the coast from San Diego to SB has the best weather in the world. SF is too far north.

    Your take only makes sense if you're comparing the valley to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It's just better.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Your take only makes sense if you’re comparing the [San Fernando] valley [weather] to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It’s just better.”

    But only 12,500 people are allowed to live along the 26 miles of ocean in Malibu. And Rob Reiner and Barbra Streisand are going to keep it that way. You might say that Malibuites are privileged xenophobes who hate and fear the huddled masses of the San Fernando Valley yearning to breathe free in non-existent high rises overlooking their beachfront homes in Malibu, but then you aren’t holding the Microphone are you?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians. I don't know the history.


    I do know that people like Sean Penn would not have gone to Samohi in my time. Obviously the really rich would have gone to private school but even by districting I think they would have gone to a different hs--Palisades? Did Palisades not exist when they went to Samo?



    Btw, Samohi may be the most diverse place in the country. Even when I went there they talked about students coming from households with 40 (or 57 or whatever) different languages at home. That's what I find interesting about Trump's guy. I seem to be the only old-millennial who isn't surprised by the current millennial crazyspeak.

    We had rallies on campus for oppressed Hispanic minorities. We had rallies for black youth killed by cops. We had high school teachers starting 9th grade class by having a session where we decided on "norms."

    As a high school freshman I was maybe vaguely aware of the word "norms" but I was confused as to why our teacher was telling us to sit in a circle and discuss them. Why wasn't she just telling us what she wanted to teach that semester?

    Well, because it was problematic and not ok to just foist things on people. On the other hand, she was a public school teacher with a 9th grade class she had to control since this wasn't grad school at Cambridge. So she started with a discussion of the difference between rules and norms and how she wanted to encourage "consensus" in the slave community of students....


    I've found that none of the "in 2016? really?" stuff surprises me because it was all there for me in 2001. I know some people my age who are surprised and confused but to me it's just normal wink-wink propaganda. I would guess Miller also benefits/suffers from this same advantage of knowing current-year bullshit from a young age.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Ivy, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  193. @Steve Sailer
    @Dave Pinsen

    The assumption was that dampness (e.g., fog) was dangerous. Santa Monica is mostly sunny, but it does get foggy at nights. Fog used to shut down LAX frequently, but now they have extremely powerful runway lights that keep the otherwise dilapidated airport busy until the wee hours every night.

    Southern California was settled after 1887 first in the inland San Gabriel Valley (e.g., Pasadena,about 30 miles inland) first. A large fraction of early residents of SoCal were Midwesterners with respiratory problems (some actually had TB, some had other problems, some had no problems -- as in Mann's "Magic Mountain," tuberculosis was hard to prove). Pasadena's warm dry climate was considered healthier than Santa Monica's mild moist climate.

    There's no natural harbor to draw people to the coast. And downtown Los Angeles, about 20 miles inland, was a rare place where the Los Angeles river always flowed above ground due to a geological quirk forcing the aquifer under the river to the surface.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave Pinsen, @JsP, @JsP

    Long Beach is the natural harbor, right?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    Artificial harbor created by breakwaters and dredging.

    It's an easy place to build an artificial harbor because it's south facing and thus doesn't get much wave action from polar storms. But it had to be built.

  194. Steve you woman approve my comments when you wake up from your fainting couch.

  195. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Stalin's realization might be part of the answer but it can't be the whole story. After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism. Add in the fact that Communism tends to bring out the worst tendencies in people, rather than appealing to their "better angels" as Lincoln said. You can see (although anti-Semitism doesn't seem to have made a big comeback) that post- Communist Russia is even more Russian acting now.

    You can see the same thing in China - Communism is just a thin veneer on top of 5,000 years of Chinese history so as time goes on Chinese communist governments act less communist and more Chinese. People really do revert to type.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonymous

    After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism.

    I wish this were parody. Where is the acknowledgment of the outsized Jewish role in Bolshevik philosophy, politics, and execution? Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted. Of all times, some certainly warranted, why focus on anti-Semitism in Communist Russia? If anything, Russian Jewish groups should do some soul searching on their role in the second largest mass murder (Mao being first) of the 20th century.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Antonymous

    "Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted"

    This is not so. Traditional orthodox Jews were persecuted with zeal by the Yevsektsiya who were tasked with the destruction of traditional Jewish life.

    Replies: @Antonymous

  196. @Svigor
    JackD, I'm pretty sure you've seen my MR immigration voting records links several times by now, so if you're still pretending equivalence, you just don't want to know the truth (if I'm wrong, and by some miracle you've managed to miss them every time, I'd be happy to post them again).

    TL;DR version for those who haven't seen them: white pols vote about 55 to 45 against open borders. Jewish pols vote 100% for open borders. Given Jewish over-representation, this puts open borders over the top.

    Equivalence = the usual leftist lies. Odd how they seem to emanate so frequently from "rightists."

    Replies: @Jack D

    Only 100%. They should try harder. Stakhanov achieved a 110% voting record!

  197. @AndrewR
    @Dave Pinsen

    Rube never would have gone for immigration restrictionism. Rube had his heart set on flooding the US with low IQ Aztecs so that he could be part of the white elite like in every other Latin American land. Rubio's prospects are slim in an Anglo US so he had his heart set on deanglofying it. In a Latinized USA, Anglo politicians would not stand a chance against Hispanics like Rube.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Or Rubio could have been the one Hispanic politician who turned his back on his ethnic special interest to defend American citizenry. If Rubio had hired Stephen Miller in December 2012 and listened to him about Schumer’s bill, he’d be the GOP nominee today.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    But who would have bankrolled him? There's the rub. If Trump should lose this election, it's not like another Republican candidate will pick up his issues and run with them. He won't be able to afford to.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams

  198. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    "Your take only makes sense if you’re comparing the [San Fernando] valley [weather] to going to Berkeley/SF/Palo alto. but why skip Malibu? It’s just better."

    But only 12,500 people are allowed to live along the 26 miles of ocean in Malibu. And Rob Reiner and Barbra Streisand are going to keep it that way. You might say that Malibuites are privileged xenophobes who hate and fear the huddled masses of the San Fernando Valley yearning to breathe free in non-existent high rises overlooking their beachfront homes in Malibu, but then you aren't holding the Microphone are you?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians. I don’t know the history.

    I do know that people like Sean Penn would not have gone to Samohi in my time. Obviously the really rich would have gone to private school but even by districting I think they would have gone to a different hs–Palisades? Did Palisades not exist when they went to Samo?

    Btw, Samohi may be the most diverse place in the country. Even when I went there they talked about students coming from households with 40 (or 57 or whatever) different languages at home. That’s what I find interesting about Trump’s guy. I seem to be the only old-millennial who isn’t surprised by the current millennial crazyspeak.

    We had rallies on campus for oppressed Hispanic minorities. We had rallies for black youth killed by cops. We had high school teachers starting 9th grade class by having a session where we decided on “norms.”

    As a high school freshman I was maybe vaguely aware of the word “norms” but I was confused as to why our teacher was telling us to sit in a circle and discuss them. Why wasn’t she just telling us what she wanted to teach that semester?

    Well, because it was problematic and not ok to just foist things on people. On the other hand, she was a public school teacher with a 9th grade class she had to control since this wasn’t grad school at Cambridge. So she started with a discussion of the difference between rules and norms and how she wanted to encourage “consensus” in the slave community of students….

    I’ve found that none of the “in 2016? really?” stuff surprises me because it was all there for me in 2001. I know some people my age who are surprised and confused but to me it’s just normal wink-wink propaganda. I would guess Miller also benefits/suffers from this same advantage of knowing current-year bullshit from a young age.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous


    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians.
     
    I had a job interview at a small church in Malibu with a beautiful view over a cliff to the ocean in 2004 and it was hard core hippy, i.e. peace and love more than PC, and very homely.
    , @Ivy
    @Anonymous

    Palisades High School, aka Pali Hi, has been around for decades. I lived a few blocks from there after college and knew many who went to school there. The local community thrived based on the semi-remote location, accessible mainly via Sunset Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway (PCH). That kept it somewhat removed from the homeless scene in Santa Monica and kept the crime rate down.

    Pali remains a wonderful close-in very expensive suburb, fairly accessible to Century City meaning not a really horrible commute like having to drive to downtown LA or the Valley. Modest bungalows cost millions and those on larger lots get torn down to construct bigger homes. The old housing stock was not very well built, as Steve noted as well about Santa Monica. When the wind blew, you could see the curtains move, and there was no insulation as none was really needed.

    If you are feeling patriotic, and are in the LA area on July 4th, watch the Palisades Parade. They usually have some celebrities along with bands and such. One of my memories from past parades was seeing dozens of people flipping off then-politician Tom Hayden.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anonymous

    Sean Penn should be deported to the geographical center of Venezuela, without anything but the clothes he is wearing, immediately, and abandoned there.

  199. @JsP
    @Steve Sailer

    Long Beach is the natural harbor, right?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Artificial harbor created by breakwaters and dredging.

    It’s an easy place to build an artificial harbor because it’s south facing and thus doesn’t get much wave action from polar storms. But it had to be built.

  200. @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.
     
    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick's smokin'.

    Replies: @MC, @dr kill, @Anonymous

    Agreed. She’s like the ever-so-slightly less attractive sister of that Russian Jewish girl from the AT&T ads:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=at%26t+lily&biw=1440&bih=799&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCyPLU8MvNAhUP0mMKHX7UCBYQiR4Iew

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @MC

    Yeah, my son had a major crush on Milana Vayntrub, who can be compared to Mila Kunis, another Soviet Jew who came to the US around 1990, as did Julia Ioffe: not sure how she compares to them, however she is pretty and has a nice demeanor. There are a lot of pretty Russian Jewish girls in the media and the arts.

  201. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    I don't think so. China's history seems less cyclic, and more a long descent from the Tang dynasty's cultural zenith. Yes, dynasties come and go, and start with a burst of energy and productivity... but it seems like each dynasty got more mercantile, less aristocratic, less artistic, etc, until you had the full blown proletarization of culture under Mao. Now businessmen in suits spit on public transport and their children defecate in the streets, and there is nothing more complicated in their heads than how to screw their neighbors economically, eat the fried testicles of endangered species, and collect knockoffs of western luxury goods.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The Tang Dynasty was more mercantile than subsequent dynasties.

  202. This Julia Joffe is endlessly mocked in Trump Twitterverse, which is a hilarious and insightful part of politics now.

    Here is Stephan Miller ripping a CNN panel a new on:

    Here is the Arab on the panel “Wow,Just.Wow” ing him as a response.

  203. @Anonymous
    Greek woman racially abused in London in wake of Brexit vote:

    https://twitter.com/amhitchens/status/747523021225791492

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @PiltdownMan, @Anonymous, @Anonymous Nephew, @AndrewR, @woodNfish, @Lurker

    I call utter bullshit.

    This is Eleni Melagrou, so presumably it was her sister who was allegedly targeted. If they look anything alike then I seriously doubt many (any?) British people would even recognise her as Greek at all. Would they even assume she wasn’t British?

    And given the vast, vibrant non-white London population and the blatant, obvious target they represent, why on earth would someone single out someone almost indistinguishable from the indigenous population?

    We’re being asked to believe that some ‘racist’ walking down the street faced with numerous Jamaicans, Asians hijab wearing Africans and Arabs etc and somehow chose to focus on a white woman for ‘abuse’.

    Utter, utter bullshit.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  204. @MC
    @Daniel Williams

    Agreed. She's like the ever-so-slightly less attractive sister of that Russian Jewish girl from the AT&T ads:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=at%26t+lily&biw=1440&bih=799&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCyPLU8MvNAhUP0mMKHX7UCBYQiR4Iew

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Yeah, my son had a major crush on Milana Vayntrub, who can be compared to Mila Kunis, another Soviet Jew who came to the US around 1990, as did Julia Ioffe: not sure how she compares to them, however she is pretty and has a nice demeanor. There are a lot of pretty Russian Jewish girls in the media and the arts.

  205. @Jack Hanson
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is trailing because of +10 D sampling and 5 point margins of error.

    The fact 60% of people support a Muslim ban but he can't break 50% is telling.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Unladen Swallow

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "The people who elected you in the primary suddenly want you to do something different in the general. Ignore that they agree with all your other policies."

    Yes this makes much more sense than his hand waving of a D+12 skewing and poo-pooing the "average" D+6 of other polls to prove that him and his buddies in the media trying to craft a narrative..

  206. There’s also film of the man celebrating his Jewishness as a sort of hereditary source for his contrarianism and iconoclasm (what some others might call nation-wrecking behavior).

    The parenthetical seems more plausible. You don’t see Jews wrecking Israel. In fact, “leftist” diaspora Jewry is Israel’s most essential ally. No “piss Moses” in Israel. No dedication to separation of Church and State. No open borders. Really, they’re quite collectivist and on the same page, not contrarian or iconoclastic at all. Just contrarian and iconoclastic fur de goyim.

    The Holocaust. There’s one Hell of a reverently-handled Jewish icon. Where’s the Jewish iconoclasm on that one? Saint Anne Frank, seen any Jewish-produced art denigrating her lately? Deconstructions of her narrative?

    Peter Hitchens thinks Christopher Hitchens’ late-in-life decision that he was Jewish was silly.

    Can’t hurt his posthumous fame or reputation for the foreseeable future.

  207. Only 100%. They should try harder. Stakhanov achieved a 110% voting record!

    Sarcasm can be entertaining, but only really effective as a spice. No nutritional value.

    As to your point, 100% = shorthand. Rounded up from 99.x%.

  208. @Flip
    @Cagey Beast

    I always wondered about the position of ethnic Jews in the Soviet Union. They seemed to go from many of the early leaders to supposedly discriminated against refuseniks and emigrants, and then became prominent as oligarchs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. I read that Khruschev made comments that there were too many "Abrahamoviches" in positions of power so there must have been a reaction against them by the majority Slavs at some point.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @Bill, @Cagey Beast, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    The NKVD went from Jews and other minorities being significantly overrepresented to only Russians and Georgians being overrepresented during Stalin’s reign.

  209. @Anonymous
    @Tiny Duck

    white south africa is your future. The real sin of apartheid was not racial discrimination, which the ANC gov indulges in against whites. It was that whites were frank about what it takes to survive as a white tribe in africa

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    The South Africans would have been better off having borders and importing Europeans to work in their mines instead of having Apartheid.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
    @Dave Pinsen

    Afrikaner nativism and opposition to immigration kept South Africa from filling up with Europeans.

    Replies: @CJ

  210. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians. I don't know the history.


    I do know that people like Sean Penn would not have gone to Samohi in my time. Obviously the really rich would have gone to private school but even by districting I think they would have gone to a different hs--Palisades? Did Palisades not exist when they went to Samo?



    Btw, Samohi may be the most diverse place in the country. Even when I went there they talked about students coming from households with 40 (or 57 or whatever) different languages at home. That's what I find interesting about Trump's guy. I seem to be the only old-millennial who isn't surprised by the current millennial crazyspeak.

    We had rallies on campus for oppressed Hispanic minorities. We had rallies for black youth killed by cops. We had high school teachers starting 9th grade class by having a session where we decided on "norms."

    As a high school freshman I was maybe vaguely aware of the word "norms" but I was confused as to why our teacher was telling us to sit in a circle and discuss them. Why wasn't she just telling us what she wanted to teach that semester?

    Well, because it was problematic and not ok to just foist things on people. On the other hand, she was a public school teacher with a 9th grade class she had to control since this wasn't grad school at Cambridge. So she started with a discussion of the difference between rules and norms and how she wanted to encourage "consensus" in the slave community of students....


    I've found that none of the "in 2016? really?" stuff surprises me because it was all there for me in 2001. I know some people my age who are surprised and confused but to me it's just normal wink-wink propaganda. I would guess Miller also benefits/suffers from this same advantage of knowing current-year bullshit from a young age.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Ivy, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians.

    I had a job interview at a small church in Malibu with a beautiful view over a cliff to the ocean in 2004 and it was hard core hippy, i.e. peace and love more than PC, and very homely.

  211. @Svigor

    There is no plan or conspiracy. Just as there is no plan or conspiracy for blacks to play in the NBA.
     
    If you're saying blacks aren't smart or industrious enough to make a conspiracy work, I'd be willing to indulge you.

    If you're saying Jews are in the same position, I'd have to disagree.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Smart and industrious, yes, but also disputatious with each other. I don’t see Stephen Miller conspiring with Julia, or Max Blumenthal with David Frum, etc.

  212. @Jack Hanson
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is trailing because of +10 D sampling and 5 point margins of error.

    The fact 60% of people support a Muslim ban but he can't break 50% is telling.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Unladen Swallow

    The MSM has tried this spin all throughout the run up to and throughout the primary season. The problem for them is that Trump would then win caucuses and primaries that week and then they had to find something else to attack him on. Since all the primaries and caucuses are over they can peddle their biased polling to their heart’s content and then hope it becomes self fulfilling.

    Besides polls at this stage are pointless and usually never indicative of the end result. At this point in 1948 Dewey appeared to have an insurmountable lead over Truman, and Dukakis had a big lead over Bush after the conventions, they both lost. Conversely, most polls had Reagan and Carter in a dead heat in 1980 right before the election and Carter lost badly.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Unladen Swallow

    Yes.

    The primary season was awful for the media pushing "KASICH'S SURPRISE SURGE" and "CRUZ SEEMS POISED TO TAKE INDIANA" right up to the day of the actual vote where both candidates collapsed out of nowhere. No one in the MSM saw it coming but there it was.

    Even the never Trumpers around here couldn't shut up about evangelicals and how some random slice of .04 of a demographic was going to make it impossible for Trump to win until he did. Rinse and repeat until the next contest.

    Furthermore many of the polls play this game where they ask "Who is your preferred candidate? Trump? Hillary? OR THE CANDIDATE THAT PERFECTLY ALIGNS WITH ALL YOUR VIEWS?!"

    Gary Johnson 10% in a poll and Hillary winning Arizona should be yuge signs that something is rotten in Denmark, but the media never lies.

  213. @JsP
    @Lot

    Old holdouts?

    the Santa Monica neighborhood my parents moved to in 2000 looked like it was built for middle class americans around WWII. of course those homes (or just for the tiny lot) cost millions (plural; nowhere near 1m) now and are bought by the usual suspects (international criminals from china or wherever, trust funders, etc. -- merely having a good salary won't cut it).

    I lived within walking distance of multiple (presumably empty) mainline Protestant churches as well as a big Catholic church/school.

    That neighborhood was the obtainable American dream, i reckon. Not to rain on Steve's parade but the valley was never so idyllic as opening your bedroom window and having the Pacific breeze rush in.

    Samohi is where most of the brat pack went to school together (Sean Penn, Judd Nelson, the estevez brothers).

    And later the very epitome of California..ness, Dean Cain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel H

    I took a vacation to Santa Monica last year, and while it’s overall architecture is prosperous/pedestrian, I thought it the most enticing place to live that I have ever been to. The mellow vibe, close to the cool parts of LA, an hour’s drive from the beautiful coastal interior of So. Cal, the warmth, with the cool natural airconditioning from the sea. Who wouldn’t want to live there? I’ll never have the money, though, so it’s just a dream.

  214. “the kind of immigration policies that are good for Israelis would also be good for Americans.

    A more difficult question is why other American Jewish pundits are so oblivious to this straightforward logic.” – Very simple answer: These policies are good for Jews in Israel but not for Jews in Diaspora.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @utu

    Or at least they think it's not.

    Latinos are more likely to see Jews as simply a particularly overprivileged variety of white, and Muslims...well, you do the math.

    I suspect the Jewish fraction of the elite has done pretty well for themselves as the brains of the Democratic Party and figures they might as well keep the good times going as long as possible. The neocons, for their part, see Hitler under every bed whenever nationalism is involved (and alt-righters bombing them with pro-Holocaust tweets doesn't help things).

    Given that I think Israel is doomed over the long term due to geography, IMHO, what is good for the Jews is that the USA be as powerful and as rich as long as possible. (I believe the Jewish People Policy Project Steve loves to cite even said as much in an aside.) But good luck telling that to these guys who have been marinating in liberal nonsense for 4 years or more.

    , @Anonymous
    @utu

    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds. For all American Jews, from the poorest to the most elite, immigration restriction would be good because it would keep down the number of dangerous Muslims and anti-Semitic Hispanics.

    Replies: @Bill

  215. @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.
     
    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick's smokin'.

    Replies: @MC, @dr kill, @Anonymous

    I’m especially attracted to her agricultural shoulders. Reminds me of Russian agricultural joke.

    Potato harvesting in Motherland , two young brides are digging spuds and tossing them in the horse-drawn wagon. ‘These potatoes remind me of my husband’, said one bride as she lifted two monster spuds, one in each hand. ‘His balls are that big??’ said her friend. ‘No’, said the first wife, ‘but they are that dirty’.

  216. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians. I don't know the history.


    I do know that people like Sean Penn would not have gone to Samohi in my time. Obviously the really rich would have gone to private school but even by districting I think they would have gone to a different hs--Palisades? Did Palisades not exist when they went to Samo?



    Btw, Samohi may be the most diverse place in the country. Even when I went there they talked about students coming from households with 40 (or 57 or whatever) different languages at home. That's what I find interesting about Trump's guy. I seem to be the only old-millennial who isn't surprised by the current millennial crazyspeak.

    We had rallies on campus for oppressed Hispanic minorities. We had rallies for black youth killed by cops. We had high school teachers starting 9th grade class by having a session where we decided on "norms."

    As a high school freshman I was maybe vaguely aware of the word "norms" but I was confused as to why our teacher was telling us to sit in a circle and discuss them. Why wasn't she just telling us what she wanted to teach that semester?

    Well, because it was problematic and not ok to just foist things on people. On the other hand, she was a public school teacher with a 9th grade class she had to control since this wasn't grad school at Cambridge. So she started with a discussion of the difference between rules and norms and how she wanted to encourage "consensus" in the slave community of students....


    I've found that none of the "in 2016? really?" stuff surprises me because it was all there for me in 2001. I know some people my age who are surprised and confused but to me it's just normal wink-wink propaganda. I would guess Miller also benefits/suffers from this same advantage of knowing current-year bullshit from a young age.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Ivy, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Palisades High School, aka Pali Hi, has been around for decades. I lived a few blocks from there after college and knew many who went to school there. The local community thrived based on the semi-remote location, accessible mainly via Sunset Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway (PCH). That kept it somewhat removed from the homeless scene in Santa Monica and kept the crime rate down.

    Pali remains a wonderful close-in very expensive suburb, fairly accessible to Century City meaning not a really horrible commute like having to drive to downtown LA or the Valley. Modest bungalows cost millions and those on larger lots get torn down to construct bigger homes. The old housing stock was not very well built, as Steve noted as well about Santa Monica. When the wind blew, you could see the curtains move, and there was no insulation as none was really needed.

    If you are feeling patriotic, and are in the LA area on July 4th, watch the Palisades Parade. They usually have some celebrities along with bands and such. One of my memories from past parades was seeing dozens of people flipping off then-politician Tom Hayden.

  217. @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.
     
    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick's smokin'.

    Replies: @MC, @dr kill, @Anonymous

    Consider Julia Ioffe. Attractive, intelligent, well spoken.

    Got-damn. I just looked her up. Chick’s smokin’.

    She is probably cosmetically enhanced.

  218. @utu
    "the kind of immigration policies that are good for Israelis would also be good for Americans.

    A more difficult question is why other American Jewish pundits are so oblivious to this straightforward logic." - Very simple answer: These policies are good for Jews in Israel but not for Jews in Diaspora.

    Replies: @SFG, @Anonymous

    Or at least they think it’s not.

    Latinos are more likely to see Jews as simply a particularly overprivileged variety of white, and Muslims…well, you do the math.

    I suspect the Jewish fraction of the elite has done pretty well for themselves as the brains of the Democratic Party and figures they might as well keep the good times going as long as possible. The neocons, for their part, see Hitler under every bed whenever nationalism is involved (and alt-righters bombing them with pro-Holocaust tweets doesn’t help things).

    Given that I think Israel is doomed over the long term due to geography, IMHO, what is good for the Jews is that the USA be as powerful and as rich as long as possible. (I believe the Jewish People Policy Project Steve loves to cite even said as much in an aside.) But good luck telling that to these guys who have been marinating in liberal nonsense for 4 years or more.

  219. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    You go for it IJ. A firm manly hand on her backside as foreplay. Put a baby or two or three or four in her so she has something productive to do … and *maybe* you’ll get her attitude adjusted.

    (I wouldn’t call her “hot”, but Julia–unlike Kate Crawford–is actually distinctly better than average looking. If her pictures on-line are recent then she’s definitely holding up better than the typical 30+ gal.)

    It’s a damn shame that these gals with good genes spend their time on punditry when they have absolutely nothing useful to say, and could be doing what nature meant them to be doing which is actually necessary and productive. (There are plenty of 20-30 something Jewish men who can do annoying, tedious, anti-gentile, anti-nationalist commentary. It’s not an “underserved” occupation.)

    • Agree: Kylie
  220. @Anonym
    OT: I am writing this under a different moniker than my usual one, Steve knows who I am.

    Amidst the admittedly very important events of the Orlando shooting and the Brexit, the Australian election is set to take place in 4 days and has gone overlooked on iSteve. This election is of both the House and Senate, so this is as big as it gets. I spent 2-3 hours writing a post to explain everything, but unfortunately the browser died. (!!!)

    In a nutshell, my idea is that Australia lacks a "Numbers USA" style website or ratings of individual Australian politicians on the basis of legal immigration, and needs that and a similar election guide by electorate. There is a "Sustainable Population Party" (formerly Stable Population Party) but they only have 4 candidates. There are about 76 seats in the Senate and 150 seats in the House, so something more extensive is really warranted. The beauty of this approach is that politicians are not monolithic on immigration, and similar approaches have been used to considerable success by Numbers USA, the NRA, AIPAC, etc. Apply the filter and let the politicians get the message. This is the best and quickest approach in a country where both major parties want (on average) high levels of immigration, for who knows what reason.

    I am not sure whether something of value might be crowdsourced in 2-3 days, but who knows what is possible. If we could get someone on Breitbart onside it would help a lot, if not in the actual help with the guide, at least with the publicity. The largest countries of origin for immigrants to Australia are China, India and then it trails off after that. These are not majority Muslim countries, so whoever helps would need to understand that it is the overall immigration level that is the problem, not just the Muslim issue.

    Australia ties Canada in net migration rate, equal first in the Anglosphere in immigration rate. Amongst white countries, only Spain has a higher level of immigration and population. Australia is a valuable ally of the USA and it would be a shame to let it slip out of the Anglosphere through rapid demographic change.

    Any comment? Hopefully I can get something like my original post up soon, which was longer and properly researched.

    Replies: @Anonym

    Ok, I’ve had some time to recompose the original comment re: the Australian election on July 2. Unlike the USA, Australia’s primary source of immigration has been legal immigration, not illegal immigration. While Australia has been offered a real choice on illegal immigration which to their credit the Liberals were effective in halting, there has been no choice offered on legal immigration by either of the major parties or for that matter, the Greens.

    The government media outlet, the ABC, does not even list immigration as a major policy.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-13/election-2016-policy-big-issues/7387588

    The Australian Labor Party (ALP) in particular does not want to debate immigration.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/federal-election-2016-coalition-labor-back-away-from-health-immigration-debates-20160623-gpqil1.html

    In terms of the world, there are few white countries taking in more migrants per capita than Australia. Of white countries above Australia’s population, there is only Spain ahead of Australia (would make a good story as to who they are taking in and why). Australia is next and practically tied with Canada. Australia is first in the Anglosphere of its size or greater.

    Country | Net migration per thousand p.a. | population
    Luxembourg 17.16 0.5M
    Spain 8.31 47M
    Norway 7.25 5M
    Belgium 5.87 11M
    Canada 5.66 35M
    Australia 5.65 23M

    United States 3.86 319M

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_migration_rate

    As I said before, most of the immigration is non-white. Most is from India, China and the Phillipines, with some white refugees from the UK and South Africa.

    http://blog.id.com.au/2011/population/australian-demographic-trends/australia-newest-migrants/
    https://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/02key

    Really, we should be aiming for an immigration moratorium to at least halt the demographic change. There is no white country producing much in the way of surplus, so there is no real point to keeping the borders open in the hope we get some compatible immigration. Taking in more Euro migrants only robs Peter to pay Paul. The only white countries breeding at above replacement levels are Israel at about TFR of 3 depending on source, and Argentina at 2.3. It’s very sad.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate

    Unfortunately, history shows there is no real difference between the major parties on immigration. Liberal Howard’s tenure oversaw a doubling of the immigration rate. Liberals have been in power from 9/2013, previously ALP from 12/2007, previously Liberals from 3/1996, previously ALP from 3/1983, previously Liberals from 11/1975.

    Even Liberal Cory Bernardi, who has good views on Muslim immigration, is either not particularly strong on the legal immigration question, or it is not overly evident where he stands.

    http://www.corybernardi.com/learning_from_british_mistakes_on_islamic_migration
    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/cory-bernardi-branded-an-embarrassment-for-refugee-comments-20150907-gjhb4h

    So, while I am not overly hopeful of finding that much difference between candidates, perhaps there will be some and where there is some, that is a start. I am not sure whether it has merit but since Numbers USA has merit, it seems relatively likely that an Australian equivalent may also have merit. Whether this can be done in time… not sure. Perhaps difficult at this late stage. I welcome comment.

  221. @Cagey Beast
    Julia Ioffe's Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries. Oh well, there's apparently still a market for this stuff.

    Replies: @Ed, @Richard, @AnotherDad

    Julia Ioffe’s Twitter feed and writing seems to be almost entirely made up of belittling comments about Russian Goys and American Goys. She manages to be a lousy citizen of two countries.

    And yet … they *never* leave for their own nation.

    Bitch, whine, wreck, yell, accuse, bitch, moan, destroy, lie, pout, break, complain … and yet demand to live with us nasty goys, when they do not have to. What can possibly explain it?

  222. @Hepp
    Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like "wow, when she's being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense." Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.


    As I've written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it's normal even though they all know it's not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

     

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @guest

    … That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it’s normal even though they all know it’s not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. …

    I must be Russian.

  223. @Steve Sailer
    @Bee

    Peter Hitchens thinks Christopher Hitchens' late-in-life decision that he was Jewish was silly.

    Replies: @Amasius

    Hitch was a great pick-up for the tribe, though; one of the best prose stylists of his generation.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Amasius

    Gentlemen, raise your standards!

  224. Jack Hanson says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Jack Hanson

    https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/747726060909920260

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    “The people who elected you in the primary suddenly want you to do something different in the general. Ignore that they agree with all your other policies.”

    Yes this makes much more sense than his hand waving of a D+12 skewing and poo-pooing the “average” D+6 of other polls to prove that him and his buddies in the media trying to craft a narrative..

  225. SFG says:
    @Cagey Beast
    @International Jew

    It's true she is. Here she is discussing Europe, Russia and a lot of us here in this comments section:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gMooKDgNzA

    It all feels so pointless to even engage with such people. They seem to have cultivated a remarkable ability not to get anyone else's position on these matters.

    Replies: @SFG

    I kind of agree. They’re dragging a Jewish perspective into stuff like the EU that really doesn’t have a strong valence one way or the other–sure the far right is antisemitic in some countries but Muslims are much more dangerous to the average Jew right now. Do they have to pick a dog in every fight? What’s wrong with the Brexit–England was usually one of the least antisemitic countries in Europe (and British Jews seem to agree). Wouldn’t it be better if they could go their own way? Why pick fights with Russia? Putin seems fairly neutral on Jewish issues, and a war with Russia has the possibility to be not only bad for the Jews, but bad for everyone else on earth.

  226. @International Jew
    I don't care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!

    Replies: @syonredux, @Kylie, @PiltdownMan, @AndrewR, @Cagey Beast, @AnotherDad, @BB753

    When did “hot” come to mean “not ugly”? Gentlemen, raise your standards!

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @BB753

    Amen to that. Nothing makes the Alt-Right crowd look more like a bunch of celibate tools than when commentary on a woman's looks starts!

    Attractive, yeah. HAWT, nah.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  227. @Hepp
    Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like "wow, when she's being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense." Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.


    As I've written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it's normal even though they all know it's not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

     

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @guest

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned–or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it–the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we’ll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down’s Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let’s face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It’s worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend–an Indian guy–speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don’t want to hear “I’m gay”.

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think … those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we’re near “peak gay”.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @AnotherDad

    I've been watching a lot of old TV shows on DVD with my wife and one thing I am remembering is how seriously people took this "gay gene" concept, and how there was going to be a Gay Holocaust if anyone ever figured out how to test for it during pregnancy. This was 15-25 years ago. I think it got its start with a stage play, The Twilight of the Golds (note the sneaky reference to Wagner's final Ring opera).

    I think the premise is utterly preposterous, because I don't think a person's sexuality can be programmed that way, but it was once taken very seriously.

    However one thing to keep in mind is that if there were no gays there would probably be still more straight couples having more kids than necessary (compare telling Julia Ioffe to have 4). I mean, sure, there will be 4 Billion Africans in 100 years but if we deliberately tried to generate 4 Billion Americans as a counterweight we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

    Future doesn't look very rosy. That and the decline of religious faith help explain why the West has completely lost its bearings. There's no real goal, purpose, meaning, or end state, just acquiring more stuff. This can't go on.

    Replies: @Johanus de Morgateroyde

    , @Judah Benjamin Hur
    @AnotherDad

    I'd love to hook up cultural liberals to lie detectors. I doubt many would be pleased to find out their kid was gay. The thing is that you want your kids to be able to tell you anything.

    Which reminds me of the Orlando shooter's father. His attitude is really hilarious and few people have commented about it. He really seemed way more upset about the idea that his son was gay than a mass murderer.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @AnotherDad


    It will recede like Down’s Syndrome is in the process of doing.
     
    Hemophilia seems to be in retreat as well. You don't hear much about hemophilia anymore--not since the homosexual/HIV holocaust of hemophiliacs in the 1980s and '90s. That seems to me to be an untold story.
    , @Former Darfur
    @AnotherDad

    Hard question to answer. I'd rather have a daughter be lesbian than marry or have a child by a black man or a mestizo/indio, because when she dies there is no continuing problem. I'd probably prefer a son marry a non-black or aboriginal nonwhite than be gay. That's a double standard, I guess.

    , @Brutusale
    @AnotherDad

    I was just looking at the results of a long-term health study that found that gays have a higher rate of physical and mental health problems than straights. I'm shocked, shocked...

    Almost 70,000 respondents, and the self-identified percentage of gays, lesbians and bisexuals was 1.71%

    Why do we have so much trouble with population groups numbering around 2%?

  228. Jack Hanson says:
    @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack Hanson

    The MSM has tried this spin all throughout the run up to and throughout the primary season. The problem for them is that Trump would then win caucuses and primaries that week and then they had to find something else to attack him on. Since all the primaries and caucuses are over they can peddle their biased polling to their heart's content and then hope it becomes self fulfilling.

    Besides polls at this stage are pointless and usually never indicative of the end result. At this point in 1948 Dewey appeared to have an insurmountable lead over Truman, and Dukakis had a big lead over Bush after the conventions, they both lost. Conversely, most polls had Reagan and Carter in a dead heat in 1980 right before the election and Carter lost badly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Yes.

    The primary season was awful for the media pushing “KASICH’S SURPRISE SURGE” and “CRUZ SEEMS POISED TO TAKE INDIANA” right up to the day of the actual vote where both candidates collapsed out of nowhere. No one in the MSM saw it coming but there it was.

    Even the never Trumpers around here couldn’t shut up about evangelicals and how some random slice of .04 of a demographic was going to make it impossible for Trump to win until he did. Rinse and repeat until the next contest.

    Furthermore many of the polls play this game where they ask “Who is your preferred candidate? Trump? Hillary? OR THE CANDIDATE THAT PERFECTLY ALIGNS WITH ALL YOUR VIEWS?!”

    Gary Johnson 10% in a poll and Hillary winning Arizona should be yuge signs that something is rotten in Denmark, but the media never lies.

  229. @Steve Sailer
    @JsP

    Santa Monica's housing stock was pretty unimpressive when I lived there in 1981-82. No airconditioning in my dumpy apartment, but I only needed it about 10 days per year, and barely needed any heat.

    Before antibiotics, rich people didn't like to live near the ocean because they thought they'd get TB. So they lived inland in places like Pasadena. My grandfather, for example, moved from Oak Park, IL to Altadena above Pasadena in 1929.

    But then smog and antibiotics came along, so people with money started to moving to Santa Monica, which had surprisingly crummy houses.

    Now the smog is gone, so Pasadena is nice again.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @PiltdownMan, @Daniel H

    People, today, have no memory or idea of how scary TB was to earlier generations. Two of my grandparents and an uncle died of TB, back in the old country. There was little medicine could do before penicillin. It was a fearsome menace in this country too. While living in sunny, dry Orange county, Richard Nixon’s brother Harold died of Tuberculosis. His brother Arthur may have die of it too.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Daniel H


    People, today, have no memory or idea of how scary TB was to earlier generations.
     
    Not to worry, immigration brought it back to the US.

    And antibiotic resistance will eventually bring it back with a vengeance. Of course, doing anything to lock up and quarantine active cases will probably involve disparate impact and be "racist" ... so expect it to spread and kill a lot of people.
  230. @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    No one treats Russians worse than their fellow Russians.

    In this respect, they are typical white people. "White nationalists" keep thinking that if only they could get rid of the Joos and the Negroes and the immigrants then everything would be hunky dory but JP Morgan and Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford, etc. were 100% pure white people who didn't mind sending Pinkertons to shoot their fellow whites, nor were they picky about hiring non-whites if they were 5 cents cheaper. Hillary Clinton is a 100% pure white person who would just as well stab you in the back as say hello to you.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anowow

    We have Swedish Hank Paulson who’d happily cut the social safety net and son of Erin Paul Ryan. There’s a fellow who might eventually be responsible for death panels for Gen X and Gen Y grandmas.

    The Great Migration of Catholic whites, which did affect unskilled labor, was made possible by Northern white industrialists looking for cheap labor. Where were Jews then? Peddling ribbons and baubles, doing some import-export and cotton factoring down in Savannah. But not affecting national policy.

    No Jews prodded the British elites who let peasants in England, Scotland and Ireland all basically die off, leave, or be hung or forced to emigrate as vagabonds. I wonder if the decided lack of noblesse oblige was a result of a largely new British elite that emerged after the Wars of the Roses and the expansion of the Tudor government that was joined by a mercantile Whig oligarchy during the 17th century.

    Even an old nobility like the Scottish chiefs had no problems screwing their people over in the 18th and 19th centuries. A really twisted thing is how all things Highland, including kilts, became so faddish during the era of the Highland Clearances. Tellingly, Harriet Beecher Stowe, of Uncle Tom’s Cabin fame, was in the Highlands during the clearances, and served as a propagandist for the Scottish elite. This sick juxtaposition can perhaps be compared to localism and authenticity fads among SWPLs which occur while actual communities are being hollowed out.

    Russian elites and Polish elites enserfed their co-ethnics.

    The point is Jewish chauvinism towards gentiles becomes particularly destructive when white elites view the lower orders as Other and different and as unworthy cattle, meant to be abused. Any chauvinism by external groups becomes worse for less powerful individuals in a community in the absence of solidarity.

    Jews in the Southern US had a different relationship with the surrounding gentiles then did their Ashkenazi coreligionists who settled up North. The latter combined the old hatreds of Eastern Europe and a contempt (deserved and undeserved) for the Slavic muzhik with the Yankee contempt of white Southerners and ethnic whites.

    This contempt was the result of, and made possible, by preexisting WASP dislike of non-WASP whites, combined with excessive paternalism in regards to POC.

    Electing Trump and getting people to discuss the role of the Jewish community in American politics and culture is easy compared to dealing with the issue of the lack of solidarity the bourgeois and aspirational whites in this country have for their countrymen.

  231. @Tiny Duck
    America’s problem is fear. Fear of economic stagnation, yes, and fear of terrorism. But those are proxies for the bigger and more fundamental fear: fear of demographic diminution, of losing the privileges and prerogatives that have always come with being straight, white, male and/or Christian in America. It was the holy quadfecta of entitlement, but that entitlement is under siege in a nation that grows more sexually, racially and religiously diverse with every sunrise.

    Trumpism is only the loudest and most obvious response to that, and it will not disappear when he does. There is no instant cure for what has America unsettled. There is only time and the hard work of change.

    In a sense, we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.

    And that’s a better one.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @Jack D, @Jean Cocteausten, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @5371, @Salger, @Stogumber, @anon, @Brutusale, @Anonymous, @Charlesz Martel, @Antonymous, @AnotherDad

    America’s problem is fear …

    My problem is realism.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @AnotherDad


    My problem is realism.
     
    Nope, not a problem. Delusional posts from fever-swamp denizens, yep, that's a problem.
  232. @Franz Liszt
    @5371

    Nope, he simply and reasonably could not accept that a bunch of magical crap happened at the dawn of civilization to a two thousand year old Carpenter. The evidence (hearsay) is not acceptable as proof in court so why should we atheists believe it as well? Why is it so crazy to not believe that a two thousand year old Jewish carpenter literally and I mean LITERALLY created the Andromeda galaxy? And yet he won't use any of that power to heal an amputee? Not a single amputee has been devout enough to earn a new arm or leg etc??... Hitchens was an atheist to the end, don't let any of the deluded ones try to convince you otherwise.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Percy Gryce

    Eternity is going to suck for you. Too bad. You have my Christian sympathy.

  233. @AnotherDad
    @Tiny Duck


    America’s problem is fear ...
     
    My problem is realism.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    My problem is realism.

    Nope, not a problem. Delusional posts from fever-swamp denizens, yep, that’s a problem.

  234. @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting. I recall reading that the original Spanish settlement of Los Angeles was built inland due to some Spanish regulation about avoiding maritime attacks.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    I had never heard that one before, the rationale I did hear was that the LA river in what is now the downtown area is the only place in Southern California where you had a reliable year round supply of potable water in the open. This allowed enough farming and livestock to support a community of about 10000 people. The only other significant open water at that time was the marshlands at what is now Marina Del Rey where the LA River flowed to the Pacific prior to the early 1800’s. That would not have been a healthy area to live and because there was no natural port there, there was no other incentive to settle in the area. The only other water was the seasonal winter floods, and Lake Elsinore on the other side of the Santa Ana Mountains which is the only natural lake in SoCal, but even Lake Elsinore disappeared during droughts.

  235. @Anonymous
    "Trump shifts immigration plan: No 'mass deportations'"

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn't issue mass deportations if he became president.

    "President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it's never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody," Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.

    Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations, as he has called for in the past, Trump said, "No, I would not call it mass deportations.

    "We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you," Trump said.
     

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Lot, @Bill, @AnotherDad

    Trump needs to get better and be on the offensive.

    The “get rid of a lot of bad dudes” line is very good. But most of the rest is pablum and comes across as back peddling from the accusation of being “mean”. Trump isn’t going to duck that tag, he already was mean. (And the media’s going to make sure “mean” is hung around his neck.) His spin needs to be more “pay any price bear any burden” to make things better for *Americans*

    Trump should push forward. Immigration moratorium. Explain we’ve had immigration waves, then immigration troughs which allowed assimilation. (Our 50s, 60s golden age was an immigration trough.) We need to tighten up now and assimilate the immigrants we already have. I think that’s a big winner with Americans–even the ones who don’t want to sound “mean”, think immigrants should adapt to our ways not the other way around. (The ones who don’t believe that are hard core Democrats, not persuadable independents.) Trump should say “assimilation” five or six times a day–make Hillary make the leftist multicultural case.

    The other thing is follow “immigration moratorium” with “and have American jobs go to American high school and college grads.” Talk about “college students not finding good jobs and heading back home to live with mom and dad” and “unable to pay student loans”.

    The media has lied so much about how awful, atrocious mass immigration is for Americans that there’s all this low hanging fruit–heck fruit “rotting in the fields”–to be picked just pointing out how atrociously anti-American the elite consensus is. Trump needs to get busy making the case.

  236. @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    I’ve been watching a lot of old TV shows on DVD with my wife and one thing I am remembering is how seriously people took this “gay gene” concept, and how there was going to be a Gay Holocaust if anyone ever figured out how to test for it during pregnancy. This was 15-25 years ago. I think it got its start with a stage play, The Twilight of the Golds (note the sneaky reference to Wagner’s final Ring opera).

    I think the premise is utterly preposterous, because I don’t think a person’s sexuality can be programmed that way, but it was once taken very seriously.

    However one thing to keep in mind is that if there were no gays there would probably be still more straight couples having more kids than necessary (compare telling Julia Ioffe to have 4). I mean, sure, there will be 4 Billion Africans in 100 years but if we deliberately tried to generate 4 Billion Americans as a counterweight we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

    Future doesn’t look very rosy. That and the decline of religious faith help explain why the West has completely lost its bearings. There’s no real goal, purpose, meaning, or end state, just acquiring more stuff. This can’t go on.

    • Replies: @Johanus de Morgateroyde
    @SPMoore8

    Greg Cochran is pretty sure, mathematically sure, homosexuality in men is caused by a pathogen:

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/

  237. @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    I’d love to hook up cultural liberals to lie detectors. I doubt many would be pleased to find out their kid was gay. The thing is that you want your kids to be able to tell you anything.

    Which reminds me of the Orlando shooter’s father. His attitude is really hilarious and few people have commented about it. He really seemed way more upset about the idea that his son was gay than a mass murderer.

  238. utu says:

    I suspect the Jews who are apprehensive about Latino immigration are only so because they see Latinos as the carriers of old catholic antisemitism. Most Jews will agree with rabbi Gil Steinlauf: “Jews in America struggled for decades to become white. Now we must give up whiteness to fight racism.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/22/jews-in-america-struggled-for-generations-to-become-white-now-we-must-give-up-that-privilege-to-fight-racism/

    “In America’s racist social construct, Jews are very much white people, but we must never again think of ourselves that way — it’s time for us to opt out of that racist paradigm, because we are Jews.”

    I would not expect that people like David Horowitz or Mickey Kaus will be reliable allies of whites or any goyishe cause that is nationalistic.

  239. @Bill
    @Anonymous

    Why doesn't he just promise to put a bunch of business owners, corporate executives, and random homeowners in prison for employing illegal aliens? Stage sting operations in front of the Santa Monica Home Depot (or whatever the gathering place is for day laborers in Santa Monica). Bring RICO cases against WalMart and against REITs who hire illegal-staffed cleaning firms to clean their office buildings. This would solve the problem in about five minutes. Once rich people grokked that they stood a chance of going to prison for employing illegals, nobody would employ illegals. Then they will self-deport. Easy.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    2 things would have a huge impact:
    1) Implement E-Verify everywhere
    2) No EITC checks to invalid or duplicate SSNs.

  240. @Kylie
    @International Jew

    "I don’t care. Julia Ioffe is Hot!"

    Good. Keep her occupied so she can't write or talk.

    By any means necessary. :)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @AnotherDad

    Kylie you are a gem.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @AnotherDad

    Thank you but not really.

    I'm just practical. And desperate.

  241. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    The South Africans would have been better off having borders and importing Europeans to work in their mines instead of having Apartheid.

    Replies: @Hare Krishna

    Afrikaner nativism and opposition to immigration kept South Africa from filling up with Europeans.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Hare Krishna

    Afrikaner nativism and opposition to immigration kept South Africa from filling up with Europeans.

    True, especially between 1948 and the 1970s. Also, Afrikaners rarely used blacks as mining labor, because most mines were/are owned by English and Jews. Afrikaners used blacks as domestic and agricultural cheap labor, a practice disapproved of by Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd, a Dutch immigrant.

  242. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Sean Penn claims when his family moved to Malibu it was the country/wilderness for weird bohemians. I don't know the history.


    I do know that people like Sean Penn would not have gone to Samohi in my time. Obviously the really rich would have gone to private school but even by districting I think they would have gone to a different hs--Palisades? Did Palisades not exist when they went to Samo?



    Btw, Samohi may be the most diverse place in the country. Even when I went there they talked about students coming from households with 40 (or 57 or whatever) different languages at home. That's what I find interesting about Trump's guy. I seem to be the only old-millennial who isn't surprised by the current millennial crazyspeak.

    We had rallies on campus for oppressed Hispanic minorities. We had rallies for black youth killed by cops. We had high school teachers starting 9th grade class by having a session where we decided on "norms."

    As a high school freshman I was maybe vaguely aware of the word "norms" but I was confused as to why our teacher was telling us to sit in a circle and discuss them. Why wasn't she just telling us what she wanted to teach that semester?

    Well, because it was problematic and not ok to just foist things on people. On the other hand, she was a public school teacher with a 9th grade class she had to control since this wasn't grad school at Cambridge. So she started with a discussion of the difference between rules and norms and how she wanted to encourage "consensus" in the slave community of students....


    I've found that none of the "in 2016? really?" stuff surprises me because it was all there for me in 2001. I know some people my age who are surprised and confused but to me it's just normal wink-wink propaganda. I would guess Miller also benefits/suffers from this same advantage of knowing current-year bullshit from a young age.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Ivy, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Sean Penn should be deported to the geographical center of Venezuela, without anything but the clothes he is wearing, immediately, and abandoned there.

  243. @Bill
    @Daniel Williams

    Nixon said something almost exactly like this about the Neocons, as I dimly recall.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Hitler said he liked dogs. Hitler said he like Wagner. Therefore a German Shepherd composed Parsifal.

    Grow up and think, man!

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Daniel Williams

    Your homework:

    1. Find out the name of the fallacy you accuse me of deploying
    2. Explain why I am not in fact deploying it

    Extra credit:

    Demonstrate that you have some tiny particle of honor by apologizing

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

  244. @Antonymous
    @Jack D


    After all, anti-Semitism only got worse after Stalin died. I think the real answer is that once the initial,internationalist fervor of Communism wore off, Russians reverted to their historical norms of behavior, one of which was anti-Semitism.
     
    I wish this were parody. Where is the acknowledgment of the outsized Jewish role in Bolshevik philosophy, politics, and execution? Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted. Of all times, some certainly warranted, why focus on anti-Semitism in Communist Russia? If anything, Russian Jewish groups should do some soul searching on their role in the second largest mass murder (Mao being first) of the 20th century.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    “Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted”

    This is not so. Traditional orthodox Jews were persecuted with zeal by the Yevsektsiya who were tasked with the destruction of traditional Jewish life.

    • Replies: @Antonymous
    @kaganovitch

    "This is not so. Traditional orthodox Jews were persecuted with zeal by the Yevsektsiya who were tasked with the destruction of traditional Jewish life."

    Open religious expression of any sort was suppressed, but were the traditional Jewish Orthodox then murdered as Christian Orthodox priests were? My understanding is they were not, that Jews were explicitly spared, though their communities were disrupted in the chaos.

  245. @Daniel Williams
    @Bill

    Hitler said he liked dogs. Hitler said he like Wagner. Therefore a German Shepherd composed Parsifal.

    Grow up and think, man!

    Replies: @Bill

    Your homework:

    1. Find out the name of the fallacy you accuse me of deploying
    2. Explain why I am not in fact deploying it

    Extra credit:

    Demonstrate that you have some tiny particle of honor by apologizing

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Bill

    Naw. I'll do pistols at dawn if you're up for it. Or are you chicken?

    Replies: @Bill

  246. You spoke to Vladimir in August 2001 – shortly before 9/11. On that day, the “hypocrisy” that he so casually dismissed ended up costing thousands of Americans their lives.

    The US Airways ticket agent in Maine who dealt with Mohammed Atta said that Atta gave him the creeps as had no other passenger in his career. He even went so far as to avoid giving Atta the boarding passes for his connecting flight in Boston. But he did not take any steps to keep Atta from getting on the plane.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/18/pzn.01.html

    GRIFFIN: One hour and 43 minutes into Touhey’s day, two men approached his counter rushing to catch the 6:00 flight to Boston.

    TOUHEY: They had a tie and jacket on. All right? And as I’m looking at them, you know, they’re holding their IDs up, and I’m looking at them. It’s not nice, but I said, “Jeez, if this doesn’t look like two Arab terrorists, I’ve never seen two Arab terrorists.”

    GRIFFIN (on camera): That was your…

    TOUHEY: Thought.

    GRIFFIN: … first reaction?

    TOUHEY: That was my thought as I’m looking at them. I’m looking at their licenses, and I’m looking — and that thought ran through my mind.

    GRIFFIN: Where did that thought go?

    TOUHEY: I don’t know. Immediately, I felt guilty about thinking something like that. I just said, “This is awful.” How — you know, I’ve checked in thousands of Arabic people over the years. You know, doing the same job. Businessmen. I said, “These are just a couple of Arab business guys.”

    Hypocritical politically-correct thinking led an airline employee to believe that his valid gut instinct was a mere hallucination. “It’s not nice” to think bad things about creepy-looking Arabs with one-way airline tickets. Only the mind of an evil racist sexist homophobic straight while male could conjure up such thoughts.

    The American Airlines ticket agent at Logan who gave Atta those boarding passes ended up killing herself. She couldn’t live with the guilt.

    All of this happened because of “hypocrisy” – you’re not supposed to notice that terrorists tend to fit a certain profile, or that certain groups tend to do certain things more than other groups do.

    “Hypocrisy” is dangerous. If you lie to yourself often enough, then you start to believe the lies, and you start to believe that the truth is a hallucination, and then bad things start to happen.

  247. @LKM
    @Jack D

    von Neumann was born into a Jewish family and converted to Catholicism as an adult before marrying, though he supposedly never took it seriously. Hitchens' Jewish descent was a small fraction according to his brother.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Actually, Norman Macrae in his biography of von Neumann (1992) reports that von Neumann returned to his Catholic faith in his last few years and was in fact a believer.

  248. @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Von Neumann was not born into a converted family. He himself converted to nominal Catholicism before his marriage. There is little evidence of it being necessary for social advancement as his family had already been ennobled. In all likelihood it was to please his wife.He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life, he is quoted as telling Wigner or Ulam (perhaps both?)about some theory " Die Goyim haben uns übertroffen" He seems only to have taken it seriously on his deathbed.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life

    Norman Macrae says that von Neumann’s personal Jewishness was almost nonexistent–it “never meant much to him” and that his daughter didn’t know anything of their Jewish heritage until she was in her teens.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Percy Gryce

    I'm pretty sure the quote I mentioned is from Macrae's book. I wasn't trying to suggest that Von Neumann identified religiously as Jewish, but rather that he did ethnically. (As the quote would suggest)

    , @5371
    @Percy Gryce

    Norman Macrae writes nonsense and should have read the autobiography by Stanislaw Ulam, one of Neumann's closest friends, before expressing himself on the point.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  249. @Franz Liszt
    @5371

    Nope, he simply and reasonably could not accept that a bunch of magical crap happened at the dawn of civilization to a two thousand year old Carpenter. The evidence (hearsay) is not acceptable as proof in court so why should we atheists believe it as well? Why is it so crazy to not believe that a two thousand year old Jewish carpenter literally and I mean LITERALLY created the Andromeda galaxy? And yet he won't use any of that power to heal an amputee? Not a single amputee has been devout enough to earn a new arm or leg etc??... Hitchens was an atheist to the end, don't let any of the deluded ones try to convince you otherwise.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Percy Gryce

  250. @Coemgen
    @Stogumber

    I'll presume to speak for all "whites" - I'm the whitest person you'd ever meet who is not an albino: What we fear is a loss of our posterity.

    It doesn't get more fundamental than that.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    I also fear losing my posterior

  251. @Percy Gryce
    @kaganovitch


    He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life
     
    Norman Macrae says that von Neumann's personal Jewishness was almost nonexistent--it "never meant much to him" and that his daughter didn't know anything of their Jewish heritage until she was in her teens.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @5371

    I’m pretty sure the quote I mentioned is from Macrae’s book. I wasn’t trying to suggest that Von Neumann identified religiously as Jewish, but rather that he did ethnically. (As the quote would suggest)

  252. @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    It will recede like Down’s Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Hemophilia seems to be in retreat as well. You don’t hear much about hemophilia anymore–not since the homosexual/HIV holocaust of hemophiliacs in the 1980s and ’90s. That seems to me to be an untold story.

  253. “humans are more complex – sometimes they tell pollsters one thing and do something else in the privacy of the voting booth. The way they answer depends on how the question is phrased, etc.”

    I think its becoming clearer (and we saw this with Brexit), that a significant fraction of voters will not voice anti-establishment views to strangers. They wanted PC, and they’ve got it. So as the MSN steps up its demonising campaign, Trump’s poll numbers decline. Would you tell a stranger who rings you from some fancy sounding company that you plan to vote for the crazy evil guy who has just hired Josef Goebbels? There is a self-fulfilling prophesy at work here; just not the one they are looking for.

  254. @Steve Sailer
    @AndrewR

    Or Rubio could have been the one Hispanic politician who turned his back on his ethnic special interest to defend American citizenry. If Rubio had hired Stephen Miller in December 2012 and listened to him about Schumer's bill, he'd be the GOP nominee today.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    But who would have bankrolled him? There’s the rub. If Trump should lose this election, it’s not like another Republican candidate will pick up his issues and run with them. He won’t be able to afford to.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Harry Baldwin

    I dunno. Trump has some billionaire allies. E.g., Carl Icahn, Wilbur Ross. Not every billionaire is committed to open borders.
    https://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/747912092393553920

    , @Stan Adams
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yes.

    Trump is an aberration - a genuine phenomenon. He's not a career politician, so it's meaningless to compare him to a hack like Rubio.

    Trump is the one candidate who:

    * can afford to say whatever he damn well pleases, without having to worry about offending his backers
    * is willing to speak the truth about what's happening to this country
    * is ballsy enough to take on the whole political and media establishment
    * is charismatic enough to get people to listen to him

    Guys like him don't come around very often.

    Trump is singlehandedly forcing a national referendum on immigration. The elite don't want to give the people a choice, but he is giving us one: We can sit back and watch America devolve into Brazil North, or we can try to do something about it.

    There are still two hurdles for us to overcome: We have to get him elected, and we have to make sure that he doesn't stab us in the back. The odds might be against us. But anyone who doesn't want four more years of Obamaism had better believe that he's the only game in town.

    There is no way that a vote for Hillary can be construed as anything other than a vote to destroy America. (And there is no way that a vote for a third-party candidate can be construed as anything other than a vote for Hillary.)

    A vote for Trump is a vote to give the native-born citizens of this country a fighting chance to take back their birthright.

    Anyone who has even the slightest interest in trying to restore some semblance of sanity to our immigration policy must vote for Trump. The other side is resolutely committed to ramping up the immivasion to the nth degree.

  255. @Percy Gryce
    @kaganovitch


    He appears to have privately identified as Jewish all his life
     
    Norman Macrae says that von Neumann's personal Jewishness was almost nonexistent--it "never meant much to him" and that his daughter didn't know anything of their Jewish heritage until she was in her teens.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @5371

    Norman Macrae writes nonsense and should have read the autobiography by Stanislaw Ulam, one of Neumann’s closest friends, before expressing himself on the point.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @5371

    Ulam confirms that von Neumann became a "strict Catholic" during his last years. I'm not sure what you're on about.

    Replies: @5371

  256. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    But who would have bankrolled him? There's the rub. If Trump should lose this election, it's not like another Republican candidate will pick up his issues and run with them. He won't be able to afford to.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams

    I dunno. Trump has some billionaire allies. E.g., Carl Icahn, Wilbur Ross. Not every billionaire is committed to open borders.

  257. @Amasius
    @Steve Sailer

    Hitch was a great pick-up for the tribe, though; one of the best prose stylists of his generation.

    Replies: @5371

    Gentlemen, raise your standards!

  258. @GOUSAAmer114
    @Anonymous

    Speaking of polls, I want to ask the forum:

    In the national NBC/WSJ poll, (which had Trump down 39-38 in a four person race), the sample voted for Obama 42%, Romney 31%. Obama only won the 2012 election by 4 points, not by 11.

    In the just released PPP state polls, in each one, the sample voted significantly more for Obama than what actually happened. For instance, in PA, PPP's sample voted 50% Obama, 40% Romney. In actuality, Obama won the state by 5.5%, not 10%. Same thing with all of the other state polls. If you correct for this one factor, Trump is +0.5% in PA, tied in OH, +1% in IA, +0.5% in NH, -5 in WI, +7 in AZ.

    So my question is: Is this just bias, or is it something else? Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won? This seems to be what a pollster might say. Is it believable or is it bias? Other reasons could include older GOP voters dying off.

    Would love to hear thoughts!

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Ed, @Lot

    Do people over-report voting for Obama because he won?

    Yes. This is not Obama specific, for whatever reason people always over-report who they voted for previously as the election winner.

    Some of it may be people who did not vote claiming they voted for Obama.

  259. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    But who would have bankrolled him? There's the rub. If Trump should lose this election, it's not like another Republican candidate will pick up his issues and run with them. He won't be able to afford to.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams

    Yes.

    Trump is an aberration – a genuine phenomenon. He’s not a career politician, so it’s meaningless to compare him to a hack like Rubio.

    Trump is the one candidate who:

    * can afford to say whatever he damn well pleases, without having to worry about offending his backers
    * is willing to speak the truth about what’s happening to this country
    * is ballsy enough to take on the whole political and media establishment
    * is charismatic enough to get people to listen to him

    Guys like him don’t come around very often.

    Trump is singlehandedly forcing a national referendum on immigration. The elite don’t want to give the people a choice, but he is giving us one: We can sit back and watch America devolve into Brazil North, or we can try to do something about it.

    There are still two hurdles for us to overcome: We have to get him elected, and we have to make sure that he doesn’t stab us in the back. The odds might be against us. But anyone who doesn’t want four more years of Obamaism had better believe that he’s the only game in town.

    There is no way that a vote for Hillary can be construed as anything other than a vote to destroy America. (And there is no way that a vote for a third-party candidate can be construed as anything other than a vote for Hillary.)

    A vote for Trump is a vote to give the native-born citizens of this country a fighting chance to take back their birthright.

    Anyone who has even the slightest interest in trying to restore some semblance of sanity to our immigration policy must vote for Trump. The other side is resolutely committed to ramping up the immivasion to the nth degree.

  260. @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    Hard question to answer. I’d rather have a daughter be lesbian than marry or have a child by a black man or a mestizo/indio, because when she dies there is no continuing problem. I’d probably prefer a son marry a non-black or aboriginal nonwhite than be gay. That’s a double standard, I guess.

  261. @Cagey Beast
    @SPMoore8

    Masha Gessen and Max Boot are another two members of that ex-Soviet dream team. Having them in positions where they influence American-Russian relations would be like having militantly pro-IRA Irish-Americans, who immigrated from Northern Ireland as kids, now in charge of US-British relations.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @snorlax

    That basically was the case w/ Ted Kennedy during the Carter and Clinton admins. (Carter even marched in the ’76 NYC St. Paddy’s Day parade wearing an “England Get Out of Ireland” pin).

    (Full disclosure: I am ~3/8s Irish-American and could not care less about the NI inanity).

    Last I checked, Masha Gessen and Max Boot (no, not a fan) are not actually in charge of US-Russian relations, but rather are pundits whom hardly anyone reads. I would guess that Masha Gessen’s fame amongst Steve Sailer readers is at least 1000x greater than amongst the general public, and 10x than amongst State Department employees.

    To the extent they do have readers, it’s because Americans, quite rightly, and as has been the case for some time, view Russia as an enemy. Not because they lead the Secret Jew Conspiracy to trick Americans into thinking such.

    If Putin were a friend to Americans, he would not be pointing thousands of nuclear missiles at us. If he were only an enemy of D.C. neocons but a friend of farm boys in Dubuque, then he would not be threatening the extermination of all Iowan life. Like, duh.

    When a country threatens the nuclear annihilation of America, that’s as clear as signals come (besides actually launching the missiles) that their intentions are not friendly, but rather hostile.

    Likewise, a country that has for seven decades maintained an elaborate system, at a cost of many billions of dollars a year, even through a period of national default, hyperinflation and mass starvation, for the extermination of every person of European descent on Earth, is not a friend of said people.

    For those who’ve started furiously typing away — you can spare me the whataboutism diatribe. First of all I’ve heard it already, second of all it’s totally irrelevant. If someone points a gun at me, that person is my enemy, period. This is instinctively understood by everyone. It does not matter if I’m pointing a gun at him, or who did what first, or if he has grievances, or if his grievances are legitimate.

    People who threaten me with death are my enemy, period. If they feel they have grievances towards me that makes them even more my enemy, because then they’re more likely to pull the trigger.

    Friends do not threaten each other with death. For example, Japan is our friend. Why is Japan our friend? A big part of why is that Japan does not build thousands of nuclear missiles so as to threaten the extermination of all American life, and we return the favor.

    Note that we have now and in the past had our differences with Japan. In fact, in the very recent past we have had much deeper and more profound differences with Japan than we’ve ever had with Russia, yet they were able to get over it, as well as getting over the loss of their strategic anti-invasion buffer zones, rightful spheres of influence, leadership of similar-language-speakers, etc.

    In fact, nowadays we’re perennially begging the Japanese to be more aggressive and militaristic, while Japanese people with anti-American views insist on strict pacifism.

    It’s funny how things go when you’re not threatening us with death. You can present a much deeper threat to the Powers That Be, for example. The Japanese are far more “alt-right” than the Russians will ever be, and are actually a success story, whereas the Russians are a story of a people who, despite being 100 I.Q.* whites, have somehow managed to create a society even more violent, dysfunctional and corrupt than that of American blacks.

    If you’re an American or European, you shouldn’t even want Russia promoting your political views, whatever they are. To normal people it looks like an endorsement from a combination Osama bin Laden and Honey Boo Boo.

    *minus a few points for alcoholism and emigration

    • Replies: @5371
    @snorlax

    My, you get your panties in a bunch when you don't get everything your own way.

    , @Anonym
    @snorlax

    I am not Russian. Put yourself in Russia's shoes. What would you do with the US encircling you and also with missiles aimed at you?

  262. AP says:
    @RadicalCenter
    @Ttjy

    I'll take more Russians and Ukrainians over the immigrants we are actually getting from Mexico, China, and Africa, any day.

    We could choose,of course, to let nobody settle here. But I'd gladly take Russians and Europeans -- meaning white non-Jewish Russians and Europeans.

    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians. Nonmuslim russian fertility rate is around replacement level at best, while Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral. So when they immigrate here, there aren't going to be enough of them left at home to prevent that territory from being taken over eventually by Muslims, or whoever else is sorta nearby, wants it and has the balls to take it one way or another.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @AP

    Problem is that neither Russians nor Ukrainians have children anymore, especially Ukrainians.

    Most Ukrainians who come to America are from Western Ukraine. They have plenty of children; visit a Ukrainian church and see for yourself.

    Ukrainian tfr is a death spiral

    Ukrainian tfr varies by region. The country’s West has tfr that is not in a death spiral. Ukraine (unlike Russia, or Western Europe) has almost no Muslims and due to its poverty doesn’t attract such migrants, so its low tfr just means population decline rather than Islamification.

  263. @SPMoore8
    @AnotherDad

    I've been watching a lot of old TV shows on DVD with my wife and one thing I am remembering is how seriously people took this "gay gene" concept, and how there was going to be a Gay Holocaust if anyone ever figured out how to test for it during pregnancy. This was 15-25 years ago. I think it got its start with a stage play, The Twilight of the Golds (note the sneaky reference to Wagner's final Ring opera).

    I think the premise is utterly preposterous, because I don't think a person's sexuality can be programmed that way, but it was once taken very seriously.

    However one thing to keep in mind is that if there were no gays there would probably be still more straight couples having more kids than necessary (compare telling Julia Ioffe to have 4). I mean, sure, there will be 4 Billion Africans in 100 years but if we deliberately tried to generate 4 Billion Americans as a counterweight we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

    Future doesn't look very rosy. That and the decline of religious faith help explain why the West has completely lost its bearings. There's no real goal, purpose, meaning, or end state, just acquiring more stuff. This can't go on.

    Replies: @Johanus de Morgateroyde

    Greg Cochran is pretty sure, mathematically sure, homosexuality in men is caused by a pathogen:

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/

  264. @Glaivester
    @Anonymous

    "No, I would not call it mass deportations" is a bit different from saying "no mass deportations."

    Trump also said:


    "I have never liked the media term ‘mass deportation’ — but we must enforce the laws of the land!”
     
    Sounds like Trump is moving to a "attrition through enforcement" strategy.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anoni

    Attrition through enforcement is the better way to do it. Especially if enforcement means correctly interpreting the amendment so that children of illegals are not citizens. Then enforce everything like Arizona and the vast majority of the problem is solved. We aren’t going to be able to put together a force that will drag everybody out of their house. But we can make it impossible to earn a living.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Anoni

    That's not the correct interpretation, even if the framers wanted it that way. They should have written it better. Of course, we don't follow the Constitution elsewhere, so why not go with your reading? Because those in power say so, that's why. You might as well say we should write a new amendment as say the 14th should be interpreted correctly.

  265. @snorlax
    @Cagey Beast

    That basically was the case w/ Ted Kennedy during the Carter and Clinton admins. (Carter even marched in the '76 NYC St. Paddy's Day parade wearing an "England Get Out of Ireland" pin).

    (Full disclosure: I am ~3/8s Irish-American and could not care less about the NI inanity).

    Last I checked, Masha Gessen and Max Boot (no, not a fan) are not actually in charge of US-Russian relations, but rather are pundits whom hardly anyone reads. I would guess that Masha Gessen's fame amongst Steve Sailer readers is at least 1000x greater than amongst the general public, and 10x than amongst State Department employees.

    To the extent they do have readers, it's because Americans, quite rightly, and as has been the case for some time, view Russia as an enemy. Not because they lead the Secret Jew Conspiracy to trick Americans into thinking such.

    If Putin were a friend to Americans, he would not be pointing thousands of nuclear missiles at us. If he were only an enemy of D.C. neocons but a friend of farm boys in Dubuque, then he would not be threatening the extermination of all Iowan life. Like, duh.

    When a country threatens the nuclear annihilation of America, that's as clear as signals come (besides actually launching the missiles) that their intentions are not friendly, but rather hostile.

    Likewise, a country that has for seven decades maintained an elaborate system, at a cost of many billions of dollars a year, even through a period of national default, hyperinflation and mass starvation, for the extermination of every person of European descent on Earth, is not a friend of said people.

    For those who've started furiously typing away — you can spare me the whataboutism diatribe. First of all I've heard it already, second of all it's totally irrelevant. If someone points a gun at me, that person is my enemy, period. This is instinctively understood by everyone. It does not matter if I'm pointing a gun at him, or who did what first, or if he has grievances, or if his grievances are legitimate.

    People who threaten me with death are my enemy, period. If they feel they have grievances towards me that makes them even more my enemy, because then they're more likely to pull the trigger.

    Friends do not threaten each other with death. For example, Japan is our friend. Why is Japan our friend? A big part of why is that Japan does not build thousands of nuclear missiles so as to threaten the extermination of all American life, and we return the favor.

    Note that we have now and in the past had our differences with Japan. In fact, in the very recent past we have had much deeper and more profound differences with Japan than we've ever had with Russia, yet they were able to get over it, as well as getting over the loss of their strategic anti-invasion buffer zones, rightful spheres of influence, leadership of similar-language-speakers, etc.

    In fact, nowadays we're perennially begging the Japanese to be more aggressive and militaristic, while Japanese people with anti-American views insist on strict pacifism.

    It's funny how things go when you're not threatening us with death. You can present a much deeper threat to the Powers That Be, for example. The Japanese are far more "alt-right" than the Russians will ever be, and are actually a success story, whereas the Russians are a story of a people who, despite being 100 I.Q.* whites, have somehow managed to create a society even more violent, dysfunctional and corrupt than that of American blacks.

    If you're an American or European, you shouldn't even want Russia promoting your political views, whatever they are. To normal people it looks like an endorsement from a combination Osama bin Laden and Honey Boo Boo.

    *minus a few points for alcoholism and emigration

    Replies: @5371, @Anonym

    My, you get your panties in a bunch when you don’t get everything your own way.

  266. CJ says:
    @Hare Krishna
    @Dave Pinsen

    Afrikaner nativism and opposition to immigration kept South Africa from filling up with Europeans.

    Replies: @CJ

    Afrikaner nativism and opposition to immigration kept South Africa from filling up with Europeans.

    True, especially between 1948 and the 1970s. Also, Afrikaners rarely used blacks as mining labor, because most mines were/are owned by English and Jews. Afrikaners used blacks as domestic and agricultural cheap labor, a practice disapproved of by Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd, a Dutch immigrant.

  267. @shk12344
    @Dave Pinsen

    The TV High Sparrow has nothing in common with the Book High Sparrow. TV show portrays him as a religious zealot, while the book sparrow is written up as a master political player. There is nothing in the book that suggest High sparrow has problem with homosexuality.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @jeremiahjohnbalaya

    I don’t actually remember much about the High Sparrow in the books. But i know that Loras Tyrell was not imprisoned for homosexuality. He was last seen in battle in another part of the kingdom.

    They also totally fagged up Renley Baratheon.

    And of course they had the scene w/ Joffrey where he is obsessing over showing Margary his crossbow. I’m pretty sure they invented that little gun-owner slur out of whole cloth.

    At this point I really only watch the show to remind myself how much I hate it.

  268. @Daniel H
    @Steve Sailer

    People, today, have no memory or idea of how scary TB was to earlier generations. Two of my grandparents and an uncle died of TB, back in the old country. There was little medicine could do before penicillin. It was a fearsome menace in this country too. While living in sunny, dry Orange county, Richard Nixon's brother Harold died of Tuberculosis. His brother Arthur may have die of it too.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    People, today, have no memory or idea of how scary TB was to earlier generations.

    Not to worry, immigration brought it back to the US.

    And antibiotic resistance will eventually bring it back with a vengeance. Of course, doing anything to lock up and quarantine active cases will probably involve disparate impact and be “racist” … so expect it to spread and kill a lot of people.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  269. @BB753
    @International Jew

    When did "hot" come to mean "not ugly"? Gentlemen, raise your standards!

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Amen to that. Nothing makes the Alt-Right crowd look more like a bunch of celibate tools than when commentary on a woman’s looks starts!

    Attractive, yeah. HAWT, nah.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Brutusale

    A solid 7. She could eat crackers in my bed.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  270. @AnotherDad
    @Hepp

    One thing i wonder about is how our descendants will look back on this gay gay era?

    The gay thing *will* get figured out. Even if US\Western researchers are banned--or our societies too degraded by immigration to do it--the Chinese will figure it out. And then, we'll wipe it out like any other pathology. It will recede like Down's Syndrome is in the process of doing.

    Cause let's face it, no one actually wants a gay kid. It's worst case. For me worse than my kids going muslim or black. Ok, maybe not the girls. My best friend--an Indian guy--speaking of this daughter, the only thing worse is muslim. I suspect even good thought thinkers *really* don't want to hear "I'm gay".

    I think future generations will read about this era, or see some of our media and think ... those people were *nuts*. Sort of like tulip bulb mania. I think we're near "peak gay".

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Percy Gryce, @Former Darfur, @Brutusale

    I was just looking at the results of a long-term health study that found that gays have a higher rate of physical and mental health problems than straights. I’m shocked, shocked…

    Almost 70,000 respondents, and the self-identified percentage of gays, lesbians and bisexuals was 1.71%

    Why do we have so much trouble with population groups numbering around 2%?

  271. @Jim Don Bob
    @Alfa158

    Right. Most polls, like most studies, have an expected answer. Here are two ways to ask an immigration question:
    1) Do you support a path to citizenship for immigrants who play by the rules and pay their taxes?
    2) Do you support the use of an E-Verify system to ensure that unemployed American citizens get first crack at new jobs?

    Both are highly loaded questions, but each goes a different direction. Then to further muddy the waters, for a candidate poll you can:
    tilt the mix D or R
    pick likely voters
    pick registered voters
    ask anybody who will answer the phone

    Polls are crap (look at the Brexit polling), but they are instant stories for the morons on TV yakking about the endless horse race that is this presidential campaign.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Brexit polling showed a close result, it was. The final polls made assumptions that young people would turnout but that the white working class wouldn’t, they were wrong on both counts. Trump will be hoping for similar in November.

  272. @AnotherDad
    @Kylie

    Kylie you are a gem.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Thank you but not really.

    I’m just practical. And desperate.

  273. @snorlax
    @Cagey Beast

    That basically was the case w/ Ted Kennedy during the Carter and Clinton admins. (Carter even marched in the '76 NYC St. Paddy's Day parade wearing an "England Get Out of Ireland" pin).

    (Full disclosure: I am ~3/8s Irish-American and could not care less about the NI inanity).

    Last I checked, Masha Gessen and Max Boot (no, not a fan) are not actually in charge of US-Russian relations, but rather are pundits whom hardly anyone reads. I would guess that Masha Gessen's fame amongst Steve Sailer readers is at least 1000x greater than amongst the general public, and 10x than amongst State Department employees.

    To the extent they do have readers, it's because Americans, quite rightly, and as has been the case for some time, view Russia as an enemy. Not because they lead the Secret Jew Conspiracy to trick Americans into thinking such.

    If Putin were a friend to Americans, he would not be pointing thousands of nuclear missiles at us. If he were only an enemy of D.C. neocons but a friend of farm boys in Dubuque, then he would not be threatening the extermination of all Iowan life. Like, duh.

    When a country threatens the nuclear annihilation of America, that's as clear as signals come (besides actually launching the missiles) that their intentions are not friendly, but rather hostile.

    Likewise, a country that has for seven decades maintained an elaborate system, at a cost of many billions of dollars a year, even through a period of national default, hyperinflation and mass starvation, for the extermination of every person of European descent on Earth, is not a friend of said people.

    For those who've started furiously typing away — you can spare me the whataboutism diatribe. First of all I've heard it already, second of all it's totally irrelevant. If someone points a gun at me, that person is my enemy, period. This is instinctively understood by everyone. It does not matter if I'm pointing a gun at him, or who did what first, or if he has grievances, or if his grievances are legitimate.

    People who threaten me with death are my enemy, period. If they feel they have grievances towards me that makes them even more my enemy, because then they're more likely to pull the trigger.

    Friends do not threaten each other with death. For example, Japan is our friend. Why is Japan our friend? A big part of why is that Japan does not build thousands of nuclear missiles so as to threaten the extermination of all American life, and we return the favor.

    Note that we have now and in the past had our differences with Japan. In fact, in the very recent past we have had much deeper and more profound differences with Japan than we've ever had with Russia, yet they were able to get over it, as well as getting over the loss of their strategic anti-invasion buffer zones, rightful spheres of influence, leadership of similar-language-speakers, etc.

    In fact, nowadays we're perennially begging the Japanese to be more aggressive and militaristic, while Japanese people with anti-American views insist on strict pacifism.

    It's funny how things go when you're not threatening us with death. You can present a much deeper threat to the Powers That Be, for example. The Japanese are far more "alt-right" than the Russians will ever be, and are actually a success story, whereas the Russians are a story of a people who, despite being 100 I.Q.* whites, have somehow managed to create a society even more violent, dysfunctional and corrupt than that of American blacks.

    If you're an American or European, you shouldn't even want Russia promoting your political views, whatever they are. To normal people it looks like an endorsement from a combination Osama bin Laden and Honey Boo Boo.

    *minus a few points for alcoholism and emigration

    Replies: @5371, @Anonym

    I am not Russian. Put yourself in Russia’s shoes. What would you do with the US encircling you and also with missiles aimed at you?

  274. Smart and industrious, yes, but also disputatious with each other. I don’t see Stephen Miller conspiring with Julia, or Max Blumenthal with David Frum, etc.

    But more disputatious with the goyim (say, Anglos or Palestinians) than they are with each other. But of course, if you’ve crushed all opposition, you fight amongst yourselves.

  275. @Brutusale
    @BB753

    Amen to that. Nothing makes the Alt-Right crowd look more like a bunch of celibate tools than when commentary on a woman's looks starts!

    Attractive, yeah. HAWT, nah.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    A solid 7. She could eat crackers in my bed.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Jim Don Bob

    Exactly, she's at the top of the midrange. My girlfriend is as attractive, and she's 21 years older. Judging from the full shots I've seen of Ioffe, my girlfriend is in much better shape.

  276. And Jews are only disputatious with one another on certain issues. Not much disputation on open borders (like I said, roughly 100% of Jewish pols vote for them), sending money (theirs, and other peoples’) to Israel, Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish Supremacist state, the need to keep ethnocentrism in their hands and out of YT’s, etc.

  277. @Dave Pinsen
    @Hepp

    This reminds me of a tweet storm by Ross Douthat a few hours ago, and the lefty reactions to it.
    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/747585952760078336

    See the responses by Adam Ozimek ("Modeled Behavior", for example). Game of Thrones spoilers in the thread, so avoid if you haven't watched this season yet and plan to. But the tl;dr is that one character was irrationally hated more by lefties basically because he espoused some traditional Christian values (in favor of helping the poor, against homosexuality, etc.).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @shk12344, @guest

    They ought to have liked the Sparrow, who was, or appeared to be, a radical egalitarian. But the show hit us over the head with Sex Stuff, as usual, and all anyone will remember about him is that he didn’t like gays.

  278. @Hepp
    Funniest thing I ever read from Ioffe was her trying to caricature the Russian position regarding homosexuality and political correctness. I was like "wow, when she's being sarcastic, she actually makes a lot of sense." Sort of like this article, where a supposed takedown of Miller makes him seem sane, to us at least.


    As I've written earlier, this is indeed how Putin and many Russians see the problem: that homosexuality is a Western import, one that degrades the fabric of (newly) Christian Russia. That, in the West, there is a powerful gay cabal that protects its own and crushes its religious critics. That people are so scared to offend gays and other minorities, that they lie and say it's normal even though they all know it's not. That the culture of political correctness, which most Russians believe is not a product of historical striving for tolerance, is nothing but a bullshit machine. That political correctness is not about acceptance, but about being false and lying to yourself about the world around you. And that Russians are just the only ones who see things as they are and who call things by their real names.

     

    https://newrepublic.com/article/114786/putin-gays-satan-russian-president-stirs-controversy-again

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @guest

    I’m surprised at how weakly she describes what she’d take to be the true motivations mistaken by Putin. “Historical striving for tolerance?” Political correctness is “about acceptance?” Pablum. (At least she tacitly admits PC exists.) They can’t do better than that? I’ve noticed lately they’ve stopped bothering to justify PCism. They just assert it. It’s not something that needs to be explained or sold. It’s just the Truth, and if you can’t see that you’re crazy like Hitler.

  279. @5371
    @Percy Gryce

    Norman Macrae writes nonsense and should have read the autobiography by Stanislaw Ulam, one of Neumann's closest friends, before expressing himself on the point.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Ulam confirms that von Neumann became a “strict Catholic” during his last years. I’m not sure what you’re on about.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Percy Gryce

    According to you (I haven't read Macrae attentively) he claims that Jewishness meant little or nothing to Neumann, that his daughter barely knew about it, etc. That is in conflict with the account of Ulam, who says Neumann was only really at ease with rich Jews, offering much information on the subject.

  280. @Anoni
    @Glaivester

    Attrition through enforcement is the better way to do it. Especially if enforcement means correctly interpreting the amendment so that children of illegals are not citizens. Then enforce everything like Arizona and the vast majority of the problem is solved. We aren't going to be able to put together a force that will drag everybody out of their house. But we can make it impossible to earn a living.

    Replies: @guest

    That’s not the correct interpretation, even if the framers wanted it that way. They should have written it better. Of course, we don’t follow the Constitution elsewhere, so why not go with your reading? Because those in power say so, that’s why. You might as well say we should write a new amendment as say the 14th should be interpreted correctly.

  281. @utu
    "the kind of immigration policies that are good for Israelis would also be good for Americans.

    A more difficult question is why other American Jewish pundits are so oblivious to this straightforward logic." - Very simple answer: These policies are good for Jews in Israel but not for Jews in Diaspora.

    Replies: @SFG, @Anonymous

    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds. For all American Jews, from the poorest to the most elite, immigration restriction would be good because it would keep down the number of dangerous Muslims and anti-Semitic Hispanics.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Anonymous


    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds.
     
    Doubtful. The kinds of things that middle class Jews do are not really subject to Mexican competition. College professors and schoolteachers? Accountants? Lawyers? Bureaucrats? The professions, generally, are not going to be taken over by Mexicans. Even the H1B Indians mostly compete with goyisch engineer types.

    Just list out in your head or on paper the middle class occupations which have been and are being ravaged by immigration and ask "is this occupation disproportionately Jewish or disproportionately non-Jewish." The answer is pretty easy to see once you ask the question at the proper level of detail.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  282. @Bill
    @Daniel Williams

    Your homework:

    1. Find out the name of the fallacy you accuse me of deploying
    2. Explain why I am not in fact deploying it

    Extra credit:

    Demonstrate that you have some tiny particle of honor by apologizing

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Naw. I’ll do pistols at dawn if you’re up for it. Or are you chicken?

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Daniel Williams

    Have to give that an F, I'm afraid.

  283. @kaganovitch
    @Antonymous

    "Jewish groups were among the few spared by the initial decade of terror when Orthodox Christians, Kulaks, and intellectuals and aristocrats of all (other) stripes were targeted"

    This is not so. Traditional orthodox Jews were persecuted with zeal by the Yevsektsiya who were tasked with the destruction of traditional Jewish life.

    Replies: @Antonymous

    “This is not so. Traditional orthodox Jews were persecuted with zeal by the Yevsektsiya who were tasked with the destruction of traditional Jewish life.”

    Open religious expression of any sort was suppressed, but were the traditional Jewish Orthodox then murdered as Christian Orthodox priests were? My understanding is they were not, that Jews were explicitly spared, though their communities were disrupted in the chaos.

  284. @Daniel Williams
    @Bill

    Naw. I'll do pistols at dawn if you're up for it. Or are you chicken?

    Replies: @Bill

    Have to give that an F, I’m afraid.

  285. @Anonymous
    @utu

    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds. For all American Jews, from the poorest to the most elite, immigration restriction would be good because it would keep down the number of dangerous Muslims and anti-Semitic Hispanics.

    Replies: @Bill

    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds.

    Doubtful. The kinds of things that middle class Jews do are not really subject to Mexican competition. College professors and schoolteachers? Accountants? Lawyers? Bureaucrats? The professions, generally, are not going to be taken over by Mexicans. Even the H1B Indians mostly compete with goyisch engineer types.

    Just list out in your head or on paper the middle class occupations which have been and are being ravaged by immigration and ask “is this occupation disproportionately Jewish or disproportionately non-Jewish.” The answer is pretty easy to see once you ask the question at the proper level of detail.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bill

    Even if the middle class Jewish families were able to keeps their incomes, some of them would have to live around more dysfunction generated by the increased number of third world immigrants, and all of them would have to pay more taxes to support the immigrants. If the immigrants were to include large numbers of Muslims, there could be considerable danger for Jews wherever the Muslims are concentrated. So the middle class Jewish families would be worse off, though perhaps not as much so as most middle class non-Jewish families.

  286. @Jim Don Bob
    @Brutusale

    A solid 7. She could eat crackers in my bed.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Exactly, she’s at the top of the midrange. My girlfriend is as attractive, and she’s 21 years older. Judging from the full shots I’ve seen of Ioffe, my girlfriend is in much better shape.

  287. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill
    @Anonymous


    For any American Jew who is mddle class, immigration restriction would be good on economic grounds.
     
    Doubtful. The kinds of things that middle class Jews do are not really subject to Mexican competition. College professors and schoolteachers? Accountants? Lawyers? Bureaucrats? The professions, generally, are not going to be taken over by Mexicans. Even the H1B Indians mostly compete with goyisch engineer types.

    Just list out in your head or on paper the middle class occupations which have been and are being ravaged by immigration and ask "is this occupation disproportionately Jewish or disproportionately non-Jewish." The answer is pretty easy to see once you ask the question at the proper level of detail.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Even if the middle class Jewish families were able to keeps their incomes, some of them would have to live around more dysfunction generated by the increased number of third world immigrants, and all of them would have to pay more taxes to support the immigrants. If the immigrants were to include large numbers of Muslims, there could be considerable danger for Jews wherever the Muslims are concentrated. So the middle class Jewish families would be worse off, though perhaps not as much so as most middle class non-Jewish families.

  288. @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    The more I think about a "summer tour of the great American National Parks," the more I think, while patting myself on the back is: absolutely brilliant! Trump could go to Wounded Knee (before Rushmore and Crazy Horse!) , and take all that in - I did, one summer...very intense but poignant, and sublime...all, at the same time.

    I must remind Trump people who may read our stuff: No ONE, not - a - one U.S. politician has made any kind of declarative statement to help our Native Americans. Washington plutocrats are too busy helping immigrants from where the F ever before the people we all actually displaced - so embarrassing.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Lagertha

    my major duh. I suppose I was thinking about the current citizen poor people in our cities and countryside. I just want Trump to go to like, Nebraska or Kansas for 4th of July…go to a baseball game or something.

  289. @Percy Gryce
    @5371

    Ulam confirms that von Neumann became a "strict Catholic" during his last years. I'm not sure what you're on about.

    Replies: @5371

    According to you (I haven’t read Macrae attentively) he claims that Jewishness meant little or nothing to Neumann, that his daughter barely knew about it, etc. That is in conflict with the account of Ulam, who says Neumann was only really at ease with rich Jews, offering much information on the subject.

  290. @Anonymous

    Seriously, it’s really not that complicated why a patriotic Jewish kid from Santa Monica like Stephen Miller would support Likud Lite immigration policies for his own country.
     
    Jews are highly intelligent and intensely political, and naturally some of them are going to try to get in front of shifts to more right wing politics so that the right-wing politics are Likud Lite, rather than Alt-Right.

    We'd all be better off though if the Stephen Millers and Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics and stuck to being dentists and homemakers making briskets instead.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Lot, @Big Bill, @Unz Reader

    I for one am happy that Stephen Miller got into politics, since he is on the right side of the issues. I’d be happy if Julia Ioffes stayed out of politics.

  291. The Julia Ioffes of this world fancy themselves as objective referees of politics and culture. But they fail to realize how many people don’t give a s**t what they think.

  292. @Antonymous
    @Tiny Duck


    we are bringing forth a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men and women really are created equal. If, for some of us, that fires the imagination, it is hardly mysterious that for others, it kindles a sense of displacement and loss. The good news is that their Trumpism cannot survive in the new nation.

    In the end, you see, only one thing can kill a bad idea.
     

    So here's where your idea turns bad: the Declaration of Independence stated "all men are created equal" in relation to God -- "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights." The founders sought to emulate the Christian ideal of an ever-loving God with their concept of blind justice and equal rights for citizens. All men equal under God and the justice system -- too quaint for the modern era apparently and a far cry from your disparate impact analysis, which damns the very descendants of those who built the nation.

    Equality under the law is guaranteed, while equality of outcomes is not. While you seek to blame "privilege" and discrimination for the latter inequality, you should note the only laws that enshrine discrimination are as follows: Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact jurisprudence, and Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.

    Replies: @Antonymous, @Anton

    Instead I like his idea. There is not an explicit or forced equality od outcomes, of course, but a balance which discourages or prevent excessive power concentration on excessively few people, which is known to kill occupation and hence the economy as well.
    But I find it better if such counterpower is something is self organized and a global knowledge of the economy is necessary to react.
    The thing is, it’s sometimes because of discrimination, but it becomes vicious and regressive if this notion is abused to request privileges and affirmative action. But certainly disavantaged people should unite and compete less.

  293. @Jack D
    @Tiny Duck

    Is that you, Leonard Pitts?

    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article85128137.html


    The grass is always greener on the other side - while black guys imagine that white men have "entitlement", it seems to me that being white alone doesn't entitle you to much of anything and it never really did. I guess it "entitled" you to fight in Normandy and do 25 missions in a B-17 and other such fun things. I remember when I was growing up, it entitled my best friend's uncle to be represented as a little plaque in front of the courthouse instead of breathing because he died in some foxhole in Korea.

    Replies: @Anton

    I agree and the same goes for whites, which sometimes seem to thing that being a minority entails all sort of privileges earned for nothing less than being victim status.
    Of course not being considered a full titled citizen entails some privileges in matter of forced draft, but that is irrilevant.
    Women also didn’t have to fight and had some benevolent sexism toward them. So benevolent racism also existed. But I don’t see it as an argument against the oppression presence in past and I don’t assume it is.

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