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From the New York Times opinion page in 2008:

Tourists in Somaliland
By PETER BUTTIGIEG and NATHANIEL MYERS, JULY 31, 2008

Last week we went to Somalia as American tourists. We stayed only a night, but that was plenty of time to wander unescorted through the local market, explore town in a battered Toyota station wagon, and even head out into the desert to admire some ancient cave paintings.

It might seem an odd choice of vacation spot, given that Somalia, so long synonymous with “failed state,” appears to be growing ever more dangerous. The insurgency against the American-backed Ethiopian occupation persists, and just last week it was reported that a particularly radical group has launched a campaign to murder relief workers, who are there trying desperately to avert an oncoming famine.

Indeed, we were able to travel safely to Somalia only because of a peculiar but important technicality: The world makes no distinction between the Republic of Somaliland, the autonomous and self-governing territory that we visited, and the rest of Somalia to its south.

Wikipedia says: “The government of the de facto state of Somaliland regards itself as the successor state to the former British Somaliland protectorate, which, in the form of the briefly independent State of Somaliland, united as scheduled on 1 July 1960 with the Trust Territory of Somaliland (the former Italian Somaliland) to form the Somali Republic.”

African countries usually stick pretty carefully to old colonial borders. Somalia is like Cameroon in that a couple of different empire’s colonies were mashed together at independence. Neither Somalia nor Cameroon show much solidarity today.

Since declaring independence in 1991, Somaliland has achieved a level of peace and stability beyond the wildest dreams of the quasi-government in Mogadishu.

… With the world averting its eyes, the remarkable achievements of Somaliland have gone unnoticed.

Without formal recognition, Somaliland cannot enter into trade agreements with other countries, and is unable to exploit the natural resources under its earth and its Red Sea port of Berbera. …

In the absence of Western political and economic engagement, Somaliland is pursuing investment and support from China and Gulf countries. Such support might be enough to ensure Somaliland’s survival and eventual growth, but it will crowd out America’s chance to win the gratitude of a potentially valuable ally in a very troubled area. …

Peter Buttigieg is a management consultant in Chicago and a fellow at the Truman National Security Project. Nathaniel Myers is a political analyst in Ethiopia.

So, what’s the story here?

Presumably, Buttigieg went to Somalia to promote international recognition of the independence of Somaliland. But at whose behest?

In case you are wondering, the Truman National Security Project is a DC think tank set up to funnel young foreign policy talent into Democratic Administrations.

From The Tablet:

TRUMAN DOCTRINE
Rachel Kleinfeld, an Alaska-born Rhodes Scholar, is using her Truman National Security Project to build a new Democratic foreign-policy establishment
By Allison Hoffman
October 24, 2011 • 7:00 AM

Rachel Kleinfeld’s mom, U. of Alaska psychologist Judith Kleinfeld, is kind of an Amy Wax/Christina Hoff Sommers-type dissident. Mr. Kleinfeld is a conservative-leaning federal judge in Fairbanks, nominated by Reagan and Bush. Her parents are Republicans. An interesting family …

What exactly was the relationship between Buttigieg, and his late father who was a translator of neo-Marxist Antonio Gramsci and a professor of postmodern critical theory in the English department of Notre Dame?

 
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  1. What is up with McKinsey? It’s like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can’t talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Daniel H wrote:

    What is up with McKinsey?
     
    Yeah, the bio caught my eye, too:

    Peter Buttigieg is a management consultant in Chicago and a fellow at the Truman National Security Project.
     
    Not exactly a plain old Hoosier from South Bend.

    Pete does seem to be SWPL (and black folks seem to know it!).
    , @Kronos
    I think Buttigieg doesn’t want to get tarred and feathered (in the bad way) by being associated with a notorious firm that specialized in corporate downsizing. If I recall from this book getting “Mckinsied” became a verb. Essentially, that helped bring down Mitt Romney with his history with Bain Capital.

    Interesting note, despite both firms being intense rivals, Romney once stated he’d trust McKinsey to run the country. I’m sure his former business partners from Bain took it as a slight.


    https://www.amazon.com/Firm-McKinsey-Influence-American-Business/dp/1439190984

    https://youtu.be/uBvbJNlKeUs

    , @EdwardM
    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn't hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.
    , @Not Raul
    Tom Cotton is a McKinsey alumnus, too.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals."

    Agreed. Unfortunately we do not live in a free republic. We are subjects of an empire.
    , @Gunner
    Skull and Bones WAS disqualifying for Bush to lefties. They just pretended Kerry wasnt a member or something.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.
     
    Thinking back, [Harvard and Yale] should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry.

    There.

    Wharton is in the Ivy League, too, but a vast improvement nevertheless.
  2. Moldbug also wrote about Somaliland in 2008:

    In the sense of doing its own thing and never, ever needing a bottle, there is actually one remarkably independent country in the world. It’s called Somaliland, and it is not recognized by anyone in the international community. The Wikipedia page for Somaliland’s capital, Hargeisa, achieves a glorious level of unintentional high comedy:

    Aid from foreign governments was non-existent, making it unusual in Africa for its low level of dependence in foreign aid. While Somaliland is de-facto as an independent country it is not de-jure (legally) recognized internationally. Hence, the government of Somaliland can not access IMF and World Bank assistance.

    It seems they’re better off for the lack of America’s chance to win their gratitude.

    • Replies: @Elf Himself

    Hence, the government of Somaliland can not access IMF and World Bank assistance.
     
    And hence, its relative peace and prosperity. Other "countries" take note.
  3. Steve,

    Mayor-to-Be Buttigieg snoo0ping around as an adjunct CIA operative?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Wouldn’t they send someone more discreet? I mean, there’s some logic sending a “butt pirate” to Somalia but for real recon a presidential candidate is over the top.
    , @James Forrestal

    Mayor-to-Be Buttigieg snoo0ping around as an adjunct CIA operative?
     
    So you're saying he wasn't working for "The Firm," after all, but for The Company?

    Let's see. Well, he did work for Navy Intelligence in Afghanistan, specifically in the Afghanistan Threat Finance Cell (ATFC). According to The Hill,

    The ATFC “identifies and disrupts Taliban, Al-Qaida and other insurgent financial support networks in Afghanistan.”
     
    Translated into English, that means they identify/ designate targets for assassination... or rendition to black sites, which are run by __ ?

    The commies at WSWS actually posted a fairly detailed review of Buttigieg's career.

    They had a good review of CIA-connected Dems running in the 2018 elections as well.

    In addition to Buttplug's work in Afghanistan, his time as a conference director for the Cohen Group from 2004 to 2005 (pre-McKinsey), and his work with the Truman Center are of particular note. Both of these institutions have a distinct... glow about them.

    What about Nathaniel Myers, Pete's companion on this "touristy" jaunt?

    https://i.postimg.cc/L4fsy1wX/Buttigieg-Nathaniel-Ethipia.jpg

    A "political analyst in Ethiopia." I see. Sounds like a popular, remunerative profession -- one which employs thousands of non-spook Americans. Which country's military was involved in the ZOG-supported invasion of Somalia again?

    And what did Mr. Myers do at the Carnegie Endowment for "Peace"?

    He was a "visiting scholar in Carnegie’s Democracy and Rule of Law program. His research focuses on the intersection of American foreign assistance and foreign policy."

    Well that sounds very peaceful, high-minded, and legal. Democratic and intersectional, even. Clearly a person who would have nothing to do with anything so crass as "regime change" or "enhanced interrogation."

    Myers has worked for various NGOs in numerous places around the world, including Yemen. He has also worked for the World Bank. And for USAID -- which, as every educated person knows, is a charitable, purely humanitarian organization with absolutely zero connections to the CIA.

    And (of course) Myers is an international affairs fellow with the CFR.

    Buttigieg looks like a less-melanated version of Obama -- homosexuality, intelligence connections, and (((Pritzker))) backing.

    E. Michael Jones actually lives down the street from Pete, and has done a couple of good videos on him.
  4. Anonymous[353] • Disclaimer says:

    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    To pick up men?
    , @songbird
    I was thinking of Sir Roger Casement. Meaning, of course, male prostitution.
    , @blank-misgivings
    Buttigieg strikes me as the most boring kind of puritan. The kind of gay guy that loses their virginity late and is even hyper monogamous (more so than the typical straight guy). Indeed so calculating and is he that I'm sure he 'subjugated' his sexual appetites to his long term career planning in his teenage years.

    But people on Unz seem to be mired in some kind of 1950's kitsch conservatism, which certainly helps our ruling classes, because the very valid lines of attack on this smug, odious, soulless individual get lost in blah blah about his anal passage.
    , @sanjoaquinsam

    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East.
     
    Why not both?
    , @anon
    It could've been both.
    Remember Simpson's episode ''Bart's Law'', where Marge says ''Earl Warren wasn't a sleazy male stripper'', and Homer replies '' Now who's being naive?''

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/dk9awd/earl_warren_wasnt_a_stripper/
  5. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    Daniel H wrote:

    What is up with McKinsey?

    Yeah, the bio caught my eye, too:

    Peter Buttigieg is a management consultant in Chicago and a fellow at the Truman National Security Project.

    Not exactly a plain old Hoosier from South Bend.

    Pete does seem to be SWPL (and black folks seem to know it!).

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    He’s leading the polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire now, which is hilarious. In the past, having white states vote first might have helped Dems, but their white voters now are so pozzed it works against them now.
  6. Somalialand is admired by some anarcho-capitalists, who have noted that it presents a striking improvement over most authoritarian African states. David Friedman (son of Milton) seems to be top cheerleader: http://www.emilephaneuf.com/?p=1310

    Obvious question: if Somalia is doing so well, why are we continuing to accept it’s citizens as “refugees”?

    • Replies: @jtgw
    Are the refugees coming from nearly anarchist Somaliland where this is minimal foreign interference or from Somalia where a government backed by the US and Ethiopia is trying to impose its will on a hostile population?
  7. “So, what’s the story here?”

    Buttigieg and friend were after some rough trade. Why is this even a question?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    When the "free trade vs. fair trade" argument goes on to long, just say "We need more rough trade" and people will leave you alone.
    , @Dr. X
    Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there... sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.
  8. Peter Buttigieg is a management consultant in Chicago and a fellow at the Truman National Security Project. Nathaniel Myers is a political analyst in Ethiopia.

    I’m reminded of the outside consultants brought in to downsize the workforce in Mike Judge’s Office Space (1999). To paraphrase: “What exactly do you do for a living?”

    It might seem an odd choice of vacation spot, given that Somalia, so long synonymous with “failed state,” appears to be growing ever more dangerous.

    Indeed.

    Look, you’re a braver man than I to undertake such an adventure. I’m sure it’s a pretty good write-up of a part of the world most of us are unfamiliar with besides the piracy and the drug-crazed guys riding around in Toyota trucks fitted with machine guns. Good for him.

    But…

    I can’t help but feel this Pete Buttigieg guy is one of those uber-leftists who take virtue signaling to its illogical extreme. “Hey, I don’t just support the rainbow movement, I actually married a man! I don’t just fetishize Ethiopian cuisine, I visited the damn place! You know a little Spanish? Pfft. I can speak 5 languages! What have you done lately?”

    I just don’t trust these folks too close to the levers of power. Organizing the Pinewood Derby? Cool. President of the United States? Not-so-much.

  9. @PhysicistDave
    Daniel H wrote:

    What is up with McKinsey?
     
    Yeah, the bio caught my eye, too:

    Peter Buttigieg is a management consultant in Chicago and a fellow at the Truman National Security Project.
     
    Not exactly a plain old Hoosier from South Bend.

    Pete does seem to be SWPL (and black folks seem to know it!).

    He’s leading the polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire now, which is hilarious. In the past, having white states vote first might have helped Dems, but their white voters now are so pozzed it works against them now.

  10. There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before “gay liberation”, there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don’t know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    “Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten”

    Is he? I’d expect academia was all over him. Anyway he’s a terrific writer. His short story collection is essential reading. The story “The Frozen Fields” will set your teeth on edge.

    And I happen to love the film version of “The Sheltering Sky” which nobody else seems to like. It’s an amazing film on every level.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco
     
    Didn't Richard Burton publish his translation of Arabian tales after seeing how they wowed the Somalimen? I don't know if he got it on with the Somalis the way he did with the Arabs. They might have been outside his Sotadic zone. (Or his comfort zone.)

    Canadian poet Margaret Laurence spent time in British Somaliland, where her British husband was an engineer. Bored to tears, she wrote down what she saw, and worked rough translations of local verse into readable English poetry. Poetry slams are Somalia's national sport.


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    , @al-Gharaniq
    There's a much, much larger market for Ukranian/Russian (also, probably Filipino and Indonesian to a lesser extent) female prostitution tourism than homosexual/pedophilic prostitution in the Middle East. The latter is mostly sensationalized due to a few memoirs/travelogues.

    Morocco is also not as Arab as one might think—the influence of Spanish and French culture is massive. The real "wild west" if the Middle East is Lebanon, god knows what goes on there.
    , @ScarletNumber

    the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts
     
    Used to be?
    , @AnotherDad

    ... there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts).
     
    Random people on the Internet trot this out all the time.

    I consider myself to be the canonical heterosexual. (Been attracted to girls since i can remember--at least since i was about five.)

    If a guy has any desire to stick his dick in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don't care how desperate he is.

    If i was a young man in the muslim world and non-marital sex was unavailable ... then i'd be doing whatever the heck it is that was necessary to get my ducks in a row to be able to score a wife. Uh ... pretty much the same as was the case in the West before the slutpocalypse. I certainly wouldn't be thinking "oh, gee, can't have an actual woman, let me stick my penis in a boy". Yuck.

    If that prospect is appealing to you, i've got news for you ... you're a queer! (Or bi, or one of those other letters, something.)

    Males are simply not sexually "interesting" to other normal males.
  11. @Anonymous
    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    To pick up men?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix
  12. African countries usually stick pretty carefully to old colonial borders

    One of the old charges against “the evils of colonialism” was that the colonial powers often crafted nations out of incompatible ethnic/tribal groups, and that’s why the countries they left behind were so unstable.

    Not a complaint you hear about colonialism much anymore, now that “diversity is our strength.”

    • Replies: @Gunner
    Lefties were making that arguement less than 15 years ago opposing the Iraq War.
    , @216
    Third World elites recognize the superiority of the Western-drawn map, for their own purposes.
  13. Different topic, looks like the London bomber was flown for his burial to his native Pakistan, wonder who paid for that trip?
    https://news.sky.com/story/usman-khan-london-bridge-attackers-body-to-be-buried-in-pakistan-11879397

    Also so many iSteve stories today – Saudi pilot in training killing in FL (wait, we still have Saudis getting flight training in US!!!!!), incompetent and most likely diverse Miami cops doing a Rambo thing on Miami expressways.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    I thought he'd be buried at sea, like all muslims.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Also so many iSteve stories today – Saudi pilot in training killing in FL (wait, we still have Saudis getting flight training in US!!!!!), incompetent and most likely diverse Miami cops doing a Rambo thing on Miami expressways.
     
    Pensacola is closer to Charlotte, Louisville, and Dallas than to Miami. Yet, besides the cracker/Cuban difference, there isn't much variance within the state, whether in elevation or psychology.

    https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0e/f3/6b/af/britton-hill-the-summit.jpg

    This photo of Britton Hill at Lakewood Park is courtesy of TripAdvisor

  14. @Andy
    There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before "gay liberation", there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don't know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    “Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten”

    Is he? I’d expect academia was all over him. Anyway he’s a terrific writer. His short story collection is essential reading. The story “The Frozen Fields” will set your teeth on edge.

    And I happen to love the film version of “The Sheltering Sky” which nobody else seems to like. It’s an amazing film on every level.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    I think Sheltering Sky is an underrated film. I loved the book, too.
  15. I always get Somaliland and Somaliworld confused.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I always get Somaliland and Somaliworld confused.
     
    The latter is in Minneapolis.


    https://live.staticflickr.com/1510/24792833431_b104cf9a02_b.jpg

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  16. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Mayor-to-Be Buttigieg snoo0ping around as an adjunct CIA operative?

    Wouldn’t they send someone more discreet? I mean, there’s some logic sending a “butt pirate” to Somalia but for real recon a presidential candidate is over the top.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jon
    Check the date on the article.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Kronos:

    CIA operatives either full- or adjunct-fledged have not usually been known for discretion!

  17. The other other Somalia, Djibouti, is now connected by rail to Addis Ababa, and serves as Ethiopia’s main port.

    Of course the Chinese built it; why do you even ask? Of course they lost money on it; why do you even ask?

    Botched Chinese railway project in Africa is a warning to belt and road investors

    Somaliland was once British Somaliland, and Djibouti was French Somaliland. The latter is much more diverse, though, with half the population consisting of non-Somali groups.

    Djibouti is very handy for the Ethiopians, as they are not forced to deal with the Eritreans. Or the insane Eritrean escarpment, hardly rail-friendly:


    Djibouti’s also closer, and on the Gulf of Aden rather than the Red Sea. That Somali is the language no doubt helps deal with the pirates, which mostly run out of Puntland.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    You'd have thought someone in China would have said, " Don't we have some old, easy to maintain diesel locomotives laying around we could use for this project?".
  18. @Andy
    There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before "gay liberation", there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don't know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    I don’t know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco

    Didn’t Richard Burton publish his translation of Arabian tales after seeing how they wowed the Somalimen? I don’t know if he got it on with the Somalis the way he did with the Arabs. They might have been outside his Sotadic zone. (Or his comfort zone.)

    Canadian poet Margaret Laurence spent time in British Somaliland, where her British husband was an engineer. Bored to tears, she wrote down what she saw, and worked rough translations of local verse into readable English poetry. Poetry slams are Somalia’s national sport.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    Very interesting shit my friend. Makes me forwardnostalgic to visit it. Have you been?

    For 80k I would take a trip over there and record Real Local Footage videos a-la-vice and make it exclusive to isteve.
  19. @Giant Duck
    I always get Somaliland and Somaliworld confused.

    I always get Somaliland and Somaliworld confused.

    The latter is in Minneapolis.

    • Agree: jim jones
  20. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Father O'Hara
    To pick up men?

    You don’t go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes’s particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, “Where ‘bed and boy’ were also not expensive.

    The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities “if you want to go where the naked boys dance.” Responding to his friend’s scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: “We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus.” He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: “I’m leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that ‘bed and boy’ is prepared.”

    Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    • Replies: @Kronos
    So maybe “Somalia Salami“ might actually be a catchphrase?
    , @theGreatSomaliReturn
    I assure you that the xenophobia of native Somalis and Somali culture's pronounced distaste for homosexuality as unthinkable/repulsive (just describing the mindset, not endorsing it) would make it impossible for a foreigner to go there and do that sort of thing despite the poverty. If it was found out it would cause so much hurt feelings and anger in addition to extreme paranoia against whites in the country.

    There was a German guy who went to Somaliland and made a porn video with a lady. He was arrested.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12184362
    , @Che Blutarsky
    Certainly, though, a Naval Reserve Intelligence Officer serving in Afghanistan would have had no opportunity to personally investigate the Bacha Bazi.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Mayor B was still outwardly straight at the time.

    I would love to see his medical records. Gays are typically the most disease-ridden people on earth.
    , @anon

    Keynes’s particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia.
     
    Call me a pedant if you like, but Keynes was a pederast.

    Pedophilia definitely isn't healthy, but it doesn't involve physical abuse.
  21. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    I think Buttigieg doesn’t want to get tarred and feathered (in the bad way) by being associated with a notorious firm that specialized in corporate downsizing. If I recall from this book getting “Mckinsied” became a verb. Essentially, that helped bring down Mitt Romney with his history with Bain Capital.

    Interesting note, despite both firms being intense rivals, Romney once stated he’d trust McKinsey to run the country. I’m sure his former business partners from Bain took it as a slight.

  22. @Kronos
    Wouldn’t they send someone more discreet? I mean, there’s some logic sending a “butt pirate” to Somalia but for real recon a presidential candidate is over the top.

    Check the date on the article.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Ok, that makes a lot more sense.
  23. @Kronos
    Wouldn’t they send someone more discreet? I mean, there’s some logic sending a “butt pirate” to Somalia but for real recon a presidential candidate is over the top.

    Kronos:

    CIA operatives either full- or adjunct-fledged have not usually been known for discretion!

  24. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn’t hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    You sound like a Cuck.
    , @Elf Himself

    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.
     
    But they do lots of...ahem..."consulting" for government agencies, as well - including the one I work for. They demand the same lack of transparency in that work. Don't taxpayers have a right to know what's in a report that they, themselves, paid for? Not according to McKinsey, they don't.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "A free people in a free republic "

    Are those characters in a novel? That sounds like one of those boilerplate terms that politicians weave into their speeches such as; "patriots in our great democracy" or "honorable public servants".
    , @More R1b, Less H1B
    LOL, we never hear, in concrete terms, what kind of "service" is provided and what "intellectual property" can be delivered by Muppet-looking ex-hall monitors on amyl nitrite with history and lit degrees

    The free people of your free republic get to enjoy those principles of law and property rights right up and only up until it starts to cool Prolapse Pete's bathwater down at the Manhole.

    All your bleating about principles, yet it's always loudest and most vociferous in defense of the people who would see you destroyed. I'm going to hazard a guess that you don't like pornography beamed into kids' eyeballs, or transvestites rubbing their cocks on furniture at the public library, but you defend the principles that allow it. Which makes your principles about as useful as a condom in Pete Buttigieg's Bugchasing Bag.
  25. What exactly was the relationship between Buttigieg, and his late father who was a translator of neo-Marxist Antonio Gramsci and a professor of postmodern critical theory in the English department of Notre Dame?

    Another example are the Millibands in Britain, their Polish Jewish father was an old school Marxist Sociologist of some renown. Both of his sons gained their political careers on the back of this and became the biggest pair of careerist Blairites of all. Ed Milliband is deeply goofy but got the leadership of Labour in favour of his very ungoofy but deeply unappealing older brother David who was even more of a neoliberal Blairite and constantly looked angry and contemptuous. (But of whom?)

    When he lost the leadership bid he went off to DC to head up the International Rescue Committee (IRC). This is an odd turn for somebody so cold and interested in neoliberal economics, he doesn’t strike as one with much empathy.

    The International Rescue Committee (IRC) is a global humanitarian aid, relief, and development nongovernmental organization. Founded in 1933 as the International Relief Association, at the request of Albert Einstein, and changing its name in 1942 after amalgamating with the similar Emergency Rescue Committee, the IRC provides emergency aid and long-term assistance to refugees and those displaced by war, persecution, or natural disaster. The IRC is currently working in about 40 countries and 26 U.S. cities where it resettles refugees and helps them become self-sufficient.

    Oh, now I get it.

    Of course, though both sons advocated and continue to advocate for something the farthest from the apparently deeply-held and complex Marxist beliefs of their father they do maintain his fear and loathing of cohesive native society, they’re still at war with the natives. The only thread they keep alive is social liberalism, which their father was a key enabler of in being a founder element of the so-called ‘New Left’, which would ultimately annihilate his deeply held and cherished Marxism in the British left. As his father famously wrote in his diary soon after being given refuge as a 17 year old.

    ‘The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world . . . you sometimes want them almost to lose (the war) to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the Continent . . . To lose their empire would be the worst possible humiliation.’

    • Replies: @dearieme
    Milliband complications:

    (i) David didn't qualify for admission to Oxford so his father pulled strings in his commie circles and got the boy awarded a scholarship intended for sons of the poor. Lovely behaviour, eh?

    (ii) It was Ed who changed the Labour Party's constitution to make it ripe for takeover by the Corbyn commies. Ill judgement or entirely intentional? Who knows?
  26. @Andy
    There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before "gay liberation", there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don't know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    There’s a much, much larger market for Ukranian/Russian (also, probably Filipino and Indonesian to a lesser extent) female prostitution tourism than homosexual/pedophilic prostitution in the Middle East. The latter is mostly sensationalized due to a few memoirs/travelogues.

    Morocco is also not as Arab as one might think—the influence of Spanish and French culture is massive. The real “wild west” if the Middle East is Lebanon, god knows what goes on there.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Morocco is about half Berber, too. The Princess Consort of Morocco is a gorgeous red-headed woman. Berbers don't like Arabs and there is a Berber nationalist movement in North Africa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Lalla_Salma_of_Morocco
  27. @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    So maybe “Somalia Salami“ might actually be a catchphrase?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    So maybe “Somalia Salami“ might actually be a catchphrase?
     
    It's disturbingly close to Salaam Alaikum.
  28. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    Tom Cotton is a McKinsey alumnus, too.

  29. Pete was also one of the first 300 people on Facebook. There’s an article out there from a childhood friend saying he’s wanted to be president since he was four and annoyed everyone with it.

    Heckuva job, Notre Damey!

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Desiderius:

    The late Father Hesburg would have been proud of this particular golem!
  30. Mayor Pete, Bobby Jindal, Neocon Nikki Haley …. they’re all agents of the same army. There is usually a Rhodes scholar Oxford/Cambridge angle. (Like Clinton)

    Pete is backed by Geffen & Co … the people who pulled off the Obama hoax. But Obama had racial Teflon and Pete does not.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    "Pete is backed by Geffen & Co"

    David Geffen is an asset of the Zionist Pedophilia Industrial Complex (ZPIC). He's the Hollywood Jeffrey Epstein. Mossad is his boss. Mayor Pete takes money from these monsters but he's CIA owned. CIA and Mossad are friendly, but does the depth of that friendship extend to sharing assets like Epstein and Geffen? And I just can't shake the feeling that there's a symbiosis between Mayor Pete and California Congressman Eric Swalwell. It's as if their faces were carved by the same puppet-master.

  31. “What exactly was the relationship between Buttigieg…” South Bend Indiana theologian E Micheal Jones is the Buttigieg expert.

    South Bend insiders Jones and Helland discuss their mayor.
    CCM: Dr. E. Michael Jones reviews mayor Pete Buttigieg’s book: “Shortest Way Home”

    130: Meet the Real Mayor Pete—E. Michael Jones

    If hours of video is not enough for you, there is Jones’ book:

    Home Alone: A Neighbor’s Thoughts on Pete Buttigieg Paperback – March 31, 2019
    by E. Michael Jones (Author)

    • Replies: @fnn
    Pete grew up on the same block as the Jones family.
  32. @EdwardM
    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn't hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    You sound like a Cuck.

    • Replies: @Charon
    He's just one of the GOPe types we get around here. McKinsey are a similar type, and able to do more damage.

    Because they generally marry some genuine intellectual firepower with a determination to ignore any and all precepts of honor and integrity.

  33. @Jon
    Check the date on the article.

    Ok, that makes a lot more sense.

  34. @Desiderius
    Pete was also one of the first 300 people on Facebook. There’s an article out there from a childhood friend saying he’s wanted to be president since he was four and annoyed everyone with it.

    Heckuva job, Notre Damey!

    Desiderius:

    The late Father Hesburg would have been proud of this particular golem!

  35. Oh my god, do I even need to tell you? Even before Hillary and Saekozy rendered it a somewhat bad idea, North Africa was already old and busted. The new hotness in vacation spots for fashionable men and their male companions is the other pirate coast! And you tell people it’s, like, anti-racist or some junk!

  36. And I happen to love the film version of “The Sheltering Sky” which nobody else seems to like. It’s an amazing film on every level.

    I must see it again. No one, no “industry lawyers”, give a sheeeet about you torrenting old and in the way movies.
    – Oct 25, 1990 · Directed by Bernardo Bertolucci. With Debra Winger, John Malkovich……

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century. If I'm wrong tell me who is better.
  37. The insurgency against the American-backed Ethiopian occupation persists

    It’s almost as if even failed states don’t like to be invaded by outside armies. Who knew?

  38. Jesse Singal said today he knows what the Butt did at McKinsey, and it’s a nothingburger, kind of embarrassingly non important as opposed to incriminating.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    Jesse Singal said today he knows what the Butt did at McKinsey, and it’s a nothingburger, kind of embarrassingly non important as opposed to incriminating.

     

    These firms have a deep and willing supply of so-called Butt-Boys and Girls. There's no shame in that in the 21st century.
  39. @Kronos
    So maybe “Somalia Salami“ might actually be a catchphrase?

    So maybe “Somalia Salami“ might actually be a catchphrase?

    It’s disturbingly close to Salaam Alaikum.

  40. @Anon
    Jesse Singal said today he knows what the Butt did at McKinsey, and it's a nothingburger, kind of embarrassingly non important as opposed to incriminating.

    Jesse Singal said today he knows what the Butt did at McKinsey, and it’s a nothingburger, kind of embarrassingly non important as opposed to incriminating.

    These firms have a deep and willing supply of so-called Butt-Boys and Girls. There’s no shame in that in the 21st century.

  41. @Cato
    Somalialand is admired by some anarcho-capitalists, who have noted that it presents a striking improvement over most authoritarian African states. David Friedman (son of Milton) seems to be top cheerleader: http://www.emilephaneuf.com/?p=1310

    Obvious question: if Somalia is doing so well, why are we continuing to accept it's citizens as "refugees"?

    Are the refugees coming from nearly anarchist Somaliland where this is minimal foreign interference or from Somalia where a government backed by the US and Ethiopia is trying to impose its will on a hostile population?

  42. @Peterike
    “So, what’s the story here?”

    Buttigieg and friend were after some rough trade. Why is this even a question?

    When the “free trade vs. fair trade” argument goes on to long, just say “We need more rough trade” and people will leave you alone.

  43. @Reg Cæsar
    The other other Somalia, Djibouti, is now connected by rail to Addis Ababa, and serves as Ethiopia's main port.

    Of course the Chinese built it; why do you even ask? Of course they lost money on it; why do you even ask?

    Botched Chinese railway project in Africa is a warning to belt and road investors

    Somaliland was once British Somaliland, and Djibouti was French Somaliland. The latter is much more diverse, though, with half the population consisting of non-Somali groups.

    Djibouti is very handy for the Ethiopians, as they are not forced to deal with the Eritreans. Or the insane Eritrean escarpment, hardly rail-friendly:


    http://www.eritreanbusinesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/488_SEREJEKA_ROAD.jpg

    Djibouti's also closer, and on the Gulf of Aden rather than the Red Sea. That Somali is the language no doubt helps deal with the pirates, which mostly run out of Puntland.


    https://www.railway-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/static-progressive/nri/railway/Projects/Ethipia-Djibouti/ethiopa-ld.jpg

    https://martinplaut.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/ethiopia-djibouti-railway.jpg?w=816

    https://www.gifex.com/images/0X0/2009-11-06-10889/Elevation_map_of_Africa.jpg

    You’d have thought someone in China would have said, ” Don’t we have some old, easy to maintain diesel locomotives laying around we could use for this project?”.

  44. @Daniel H
    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    You sound like a Cuck.

    He’s just one of the GOPe types we get around here. McKinsey are a similar type, and able to do more damage.

    Because they generally marry some genuine intellectual firepower with a determination to ignore any and all precepts of honor and integrity.

  45. @George
    "What exactly was the relationship between Buttigieg..." South Bend Indiana theologian E Micheal Jones is the Buttigieg expert.

    South Bend insiders Jones and Helland discuss their mayor.
    CCM: Dr. E. Michael Jones reviews mayor Pete Buttigieg's book: "Shortest Way Home"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc4EzB38NjE

    130: Meet the Real Mayor Pete—E. Michael Jones
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muNxJeZvQkI

    If hours of video is not enough for you, there is Jones' book:

    Home Alone: A Neighbor's Thoughts on Pete Buttigieg Paperback – March 31, 2019
    by E. Michael Jones (Author)

    Pete grew up on the same block as the Jones family.

  46. @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    I assure you that the xenophobia of native Somalis and Somali culture’s pronounced distaste for homosexuality as unthinkable/repulsive (just describing the mindset, not endorsing it) would make it impossible for a foreigner to go there and do that sort of thing despite the poverty. If it was found out it would cause so much hurt feelings and anger in addition to extreme paranoia against whites in the country.

    There was a German guy who went to Somaliland and made a porn video with a lady. He was arrested.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12184362

  47. @Peterike
    “So, what’s the story here?”

    Buttigieg and friend were after some rough trade. Why is this even a question?

    Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there… sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    “Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there… sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.”

    One night in Somalia. How many nights in Africa?
    , @BB753
    Gays love the Third World because rent-boys are cheap, plentiful and exotic (and can be underaged).
  48. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Bootygig’s old man also sat on the board of advisors of the AESA, the marxist podfarm based out out of UMass, Amherst. See the advisory board list at rethinkingmarxism.org

    IIRC, that podfarm was founded by a guy named Ruccio who was trucked from Amherst to Notre Dame where he proceded to take over the economics dept and then import his fellow travelers, to include Bootygig’s old man. In fact, in the early 2000’s, the rethinkingmarxism.org website was hosted on Notre Dame servers. Some may remember the minor stinkage about Obola doing a commencement speech there but by that time the place had already been fully infested by Marxist podpeople so it made perfect sense. Also note the other names on the list of the board of advisors to include steven j gould…

  49. @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    Certainly, though, a Naval Reserve Intelligence Officer serving in Afghanistan would have had no opportunity to personally investigate the Bacha Bazi.

  50. @Anonymous
    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    I was thinking of Sir Roger Casement. Meaning, of course, male prostitution.

  51. He was probably curious about Somilialand because it’s often hailed by libertarian, Ayn Rand types as proof of what limited government can yield.

    I don’t think Somalialand has a thriving gay sex scene but who knows?

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    It's normal for Moslem men to indulge in homosexual sex with younger men and boys, but they don't consider themselves "gay" because it's not a part of their identity. It's just something they do.

    Homosexual activity is tolerated in the Moslem world because the thinking is that it keeps them away from the girls.
  52. Pete goes to Somalia to get smeared with Somali men’s feces. This qualifies him to be the first gay president. Pete says we need more little boys to join NAMBLA. Pete is truely coming out of his closet.

  53. @EdwardM
    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn't hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    But they do lots of…ahem…”consulting” for government agencies, as well – including the one I work for. They demand the same lack of transparency in that work. Don’t taxpayers have a right to know what’s in a report that they, themselves, paid for? Not according to McKinsey, they don’t.

  54. I used to read cult of the dead cow text releases regularly, which I understand Buttikekg was a part of. One of the regular things they did was put the lyrics to Dead Kennedys songs in their text files.

  55. @Altai

    What exactly was the relationship between Buttigieg, and his late father who was a translator of neo-Marxist Antonio Gramsci and a professor of postmodern critical theory in the English department of Notre Dame?
     
    Another example are the Millibands in Britain, their Polish Jewish father was an old school Marxist Sociologist of some renown. Both of his sons gained their political careers on the back of this and became the biggest pair of careerist Blairites of all. Ed Milliband is deeply goofy but got the leadership of Labour in favour of his very ungoofy but deeply unappealing older brother David who was even more of a neoliberal Blairite and constantly looked angry and contemptuous. (But of whom?)

    When he lost the leadership bid he went off to DC to head up the International Rescue Committee (IRC). This is an odd turn for somebody so cold and interested in neoliberal economics, he doesn't strike as one with much empathy.


    The International Rescue Committee (IRC) is a global humanitarian aid, relief, and development nongovernmental organization. Founded in 1933 as the International Relief Association, at the request of Albert Einstein, and changing its name in 1942 after amalgamating with the similar Emergency Rescue Committee, the IRC provides emergency aid and long-term assistance to refugees and those displaced by war, persecution, or natural disaster. The IRC is currently working in about 40 countries and 26 U.S. cities where it resettles refugees and helps them become self-sufficient.
     
    Oh, now I get it.

    Of course, though both sons advocated and continue to advocate for something the farthest from the apparently deeply-held and complex Marxist beliefs of their father they do maintain his fear and loathing of cohesive native society, they're still at war with the natives. The only thread they keep alive is social liberalism, which their father was a key enabler of in being a founder element of the so-called 'New Left', which would ultimately annihilate his deeply held and cherished Marxism in the British left. As his father famously wrote in his diary soon after being given refuge as a 17 year old.


    'The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world . . . you sometimes want them almost to lose (the war) to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the Continent . . . To lose their empire would be the worst possible humiliation.'
     

    Milliband complications:

    (i) David didn’t qualify for admission to Oxford so his father pulled strings in his commie circles and got the boy awarded a scholarship intended for sons of the poor. Lovely behaviour, eh?

    (ii) It was Ed who changed the Labour Party’s constitution to make it ripe for takeover by the Corbyn commies. Ill judgement or entirely intentional? Who knows?

  56. @Peterike
    “Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten”

    Is he? I’d expect academia was all over him. Anyway he’s a terrific writer. His short story collection is essential reading. The story “The Frozen Fields” will set your teeth on edge.

    And I happen to love the film version of “The Sheltering Sky” which nobody else seems to like. It’s an amazing film on every level.

    I think Sheltering Sky is an underrated film. I loved the book, too.

  57. @WowJustWow
    Moldbug also wrote about Somaliland in 2008:

    In the sense of doing its own thing and never, ever needing a bottle, there is actually one remarkably independent country in the world. It’s called Somaliland, and it is not recognized by anyone in the international community. The Wikipedia page for Somaliland’s capital, Hargeisa, achieves a glorious level of unintentional high comedy:

    Aid from foreign governments was non-existent, making it unusual in Africa for its low level of dependence in foreign aid. While Somaliland is de-facto as an independent country it is not de-jure (legally) recognized internationally. Hence, the government of Somaliland can not access IMF and World Bank assistance.
     
    It seems they're better off for the lack of America's chance to win their gratitude.

    Hence, the government of Somaliland can not access IMF and World Bank assistance.

    And hence, its relative peace and prosperity. Other “countries” take note.

  58. @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    Mayor B was still outwardly straight at the time.

    I would love to see his medical records. Gays are typically the most disease-ridden people on earth.

  59. @Ed
    He was probably curious about Somilialand because it’s often hailed by libertarian, Ayn Rand types as proof of what limited government can yield.

    I don’t think Somalialand has a thriving gay sex scene but who knows?

    It’s normal for Moslem men to indulge in homosexual sex with younger men and boys, but they don’t consider themselves “gay” because it’s not a part of their identity. It’s just something they do.

    Homosexual activity is tolerated in the Moslem world because the thinking is that it keeps them away from the girls.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    Muslim females claiming to be virgin, take it up the distal GI tract routinely, so when they get married they still claim virginity.
  60. @al-Gharaniq
    There's a much, much larger market for Ukranian/Russian (also, probably Filipino and Indonesian to a lesser extent) female prostitution tourism than homosexual/pedophilic prostitution in the Middle East. The latter is mostly sensationalized due to a few memoirs/travelogues.

    Morocco is also not as Arab as one might think—the influence of Spanish and French culture is massive. The real "wild west" if the Middle East is Lebanon, god knows what goes on there.

    Morocco is about half Berber, too. The Princess Consort of Morocco is a gorgeous red-headed woman. Berbers don’t like Arabs and there is a Berber nationalist movement in North Africa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Lalla_Salma_of_Morocco

  61. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    “A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.”

    Agreed. Unfortunately we do not live in a free republic. We are subjects of an empire.

  62. “But at whose behest?”

    McKinsey appears to be another private sector intelligence front. CIA is the likely answer to the question. This would be the reason why Obama acolytes are flocking to Mayor Pete’s campaign in the midst of Biden’s stumbling and bumbling. Obama was one of many groomed to be Langley’s candidate.

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco
     
    Didn't Richard Burton publish his translation of Arabian tales after seeing how they wowed the Somalimen? I don't know if he got it on with the Somalis the way he did with the Arabs. They might have been outside his Sotadic zone. (Or his comfort zone.)

    Canadian poet Margaret Laurence spent time in British Somaliland, where her British husband was an engineer. Bored to tears, she wrote down what she saw, and worked rough translations of local verse into readable English poetry. Poetry slams are Somalia's national sport.


    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-De5HRV5FIBw/Ts78eSnoV7I/AAAAAAAABn0/CpTIP-R0b_w/s1600/PCB.jpg

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51bpksXw3aL.jpg

    https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1389828817l/1026062.jpg

    Very interesting shit my friend. Makes me forwardnostalgic to visit it. Have you been?

    For 80k I would take a trip over there and record Real Local Footage videos a-la-vice and make it exclusive to isteve.

  64. @Clyde

    And I happen to love the film version of “The Sheltering Sky” which nobody else seems to like. It’s an amazing film on every level.
     
    I must see it again. No one, no "industry lawyers", give a sheeeet about you torrenting old and in the way movies.
    - Oct 25, 1990 · Directed by Bernardo Bertolucci. With Debra Winger, John Malkovich......

    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century. If I’m wrong tell me who is better.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    John Ford.
    , @Clyde
    Bernardo Bertolucci.... "The Conformist". Need I say more?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century.
     
    "Great movie direction":

    Bertolucci caused controversy in 1972 with the film Last Tango in Paris, starring Marlon Brando, Maria Schneider, Jean-Pierre Léaud and Massimo Girotti. The film presents Brando's character, Paul, as he copes with his wife's suicide by emotionally and physically dominating a young woman, Jeane (Schneider). The depictions of Schneider, then 19 years old, were regarded as exploitative. In one scene, Paul anally rapes Jeane using butter as a lubricant. The use of butter was not in the script; Bertolucci and Brando had discussed it, but they did not tell Schneider. She said in 2007 that she had cried "real tears" during the scene and had felt humiliated and "a little raped". In 2013 Bertolucci said that he had withheld the information from Schneider to generate a real "reaction of frustration and rage". Brando alleged that Bertolucci had wanted the characters to have real sex, but Brando and Schneider both said it was simulated. In 2016 Bertolucci released a statement where he clarified that Schneider had known of the violence to be depicted in the scene, but had not been told about the use of butter.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_Bertolucci#Directorial_breakthrough
     

  65. @Anonymous
    Mayor Pete, Bobby Jindal, Neocon Nikki Haley .... they're all agents of the same army. There is usually a Rhodes scholar Oxford/Cambridge angle. (Like Clinton)

    Pete is backed by Geffen & Co ... the people who pulled off the Obama hoax. But Obama had racial Teflon and Pete does not.

    “Pete is backed by Geffen & Co”

    David Geffen is an asset of the Zionist Pedophilia Industrial Complex (ZPIC). He’s the Hollywood Jeffrey Epstein. Mossad is his boss. Mayor Pete takes money from these monsters but he’s CIA owned. CIA and Mossad are friendly, but does the depth of that friendship extend to sharing assets like Epstein and Geffen? And I just can’t shake the feeling that there’s a symbiosis between Mayor Pete and California Congressman Eric Swalwell. It’s as if their faces were carved by the same puppet-master.

  66. I’m not sure if it was Somalia or Eritrea, that when the Fascist invaded they ended up liberating the slave population. Much to the chagrin of the Italians, the former slaves complained “who will take care of us now!?”

  67. @Anonymous
    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    Buttigieg strikes me as the most boring kind of puritan. The kind of gay guy that loses their virginity late and is even hyper monogamous (more so than the typical straight guy). Indeed so calculating and is he that I’m sure he ‘subjugated’ his sexual appetites to his long term career planning in his teenage years.

    But people on Unz seem to be mired in some kind of 1950’s kitsch conservatism, which certainly helps our ruling classes, because the very valid lines of attack on this smug, odious, soulless individual get lost in blah blah about his anal passage.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Buttigieg strikes me as the most boring kind of puritan. The kind of gay guy that loses their virginity late and is even hyper monogamous (more so than the typical straight guy).

    You've described a sociological ivory-billed woodpecker.
  68. Etsy had Bernie buttplugs back in 2016…will they have any for Petey?
    Petey had a distinguished military career in the rear with the 69th fighting rump rangers.

  69. @Dr. X
    Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there... sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.

    “Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there… sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.”

    One night in Somalia. How many nights in Africa?

  70. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    It's normal for Moslem men to indulge in homosexual sex with younger men and boys, but they don't consider themselves "gay" because it's not a part of their identity. It's just something they do.

    Homosexual activity is tolerated in the Moslem world because the thinking is that it keeps them away from the girls.

    Muslim females claiming to be virgin, take it up the distal GI tract routinely, so when they get married they still claim virginity.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    The Maghrebiennes I knew all loved to dance the horizontal mambo as Nature intended men and women to.

    Granted, they weren't great Muslims.

    Or virgins.
  71. @Anonymouse
    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century. If I'm wrong tell me who is better.

    John Ford.

  72. Steve,
    A post about a gay mayor running for president leads to discussions about all kinds of stuff. Movies, CIA/Mossad, gay economists, pedophilia, pedo economists, Berber princesses, PMC’s/CIA and how they fund seemingly standard issue consulting firms, African colonialism, Obama, Swalwell, Big Hollywood and on…
    Commentors here are an eclectic bunch…I like ’em.
    The whole thing, all of it, is a giant money washing operation run by Them(TM) for Them(TM). Who are Them(TM)? Not Us.
    Our tax dollars are shifted overseas, skimmed, washed and then split up between Them(TM) and our crooks over here and they all get away with it. How much of the Iran cash got back to Obama and the rest. Never asked and when looked into it never goes anywhere. That’s the entire Ukranian thing, if that really gets out and generally understood the entire scam is revealed. It’s as old as the hills…some of us got it early, some of us’ll get it late.
    Them(TM) and (((Them))) may or may not be the same guys, it’s a veritable Venn diagram of deceit.
    “We been had boys”

    Regards,
    Harry

    • Replies: @Moshe
    Everybody says what you're saying. And none of us can tell the deranged from the prophet apart. Spell out whay you're saying, calmly and rationally. Do you think that Government - as a very concept - is just a scam for entrepreneuring folk to stealing money from the masses?

    Can you explain this to us with the sort of intelligence you would use if you were explaining it in person to someone of intelligence whom you respect.
  73. @Anonymous
    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East.

    Why not both?

  74. @Dr. X
    Yeah, he only spent ONE NIGHT there... sounds like gay sex tourism with Africans to me.

    Gays love the Third World because rent-boys are cheap, plentiful and exotic (and can be underaged).

    • Replies: @theGreatSomaliReturn
    This is incredibly offensive and I assure you Somali boys are not used that way by ajnabis. You're talking about a xenophobic culture that considers homosexuality unthinkable in the extreme.
  75. @indocon
    Different topic, looks like the London bomber was flown for his burial to his native Pakistan, wonder who paid for that trip?
    https://news.sky.com/story/usman-khan-london-bridge-attackers-body-to-be-buried-in-pakistan-11879397

    Also so many iSteve stories today - Saudi pilot in training killing in FL (wait, we still have Saudis getting flight training in US!!!!!), incompetent and most likely diverse Miami cops doing a Rambo thing on Miami expressways.

    I thought he’d be buried at sea, like all muslims.

  76. @Anonymous
    You don't go all the way to Somaliland to pick up men. You go there for something else.

    Keynes's particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia. He and his homosexual friends often went to resorts along the Mediterranean Sea, where little boys were sold to bordellos by their parents. He took advantage of the bitter poverty he witnessed in North Africa, Italy, and the Middle East and purchased male child prostitutes for English shillings. In his communications, he advised his friends to go to Tunis, "Where 'bed and boy' were also not expensive.
     
    - The Party Culture War by Steve Johnson.

    [Keynes] advised Lytton, who was going on a holiday to Tunis and Sicily, on modalities "if you want to go where the naked boys dance." Responding to his friend's scatological taste, he closed with the lines from a poem: "We paid our suit to Janus/ Mistook the one mouth for the other anus." He himself was going to join an old classmate, now a colonial officer there: "I'm leaving for Egypt. . . . I just learned that 'bed and boy' is prepared."
     
    -- Keynes: A Critical Life by David Felix

    Keynes’s particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia.

    Call me a pedant if you like, but Keynes was a pederast.

    Pedophilia definitely isn’t healthy, but it doesn’t involve physical abuse.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    Pedophilia definitely isn’t healthy, but it doesn’t involve physical abuse.
     
    Oh, no? The carnal use, for sexual gratification, of a pre-pubescent child by an adult? You do not consider that a form of physical abuse?

    Of course, the mere attraction itself would not, as long as it is not acted upon, involve any abuse. But I cannot see how your statement, in the context it was made, could be parsed as making that distinction.

  77. @BB753
    Gays love the Third World because rent-boys are cheap, plentiful and exotic (and can be underaged).

    This is incredibly offensive and I assure you Somali boys are not used that way by ajnabis. You’re talking about a xenophobic culture that considers homosexuality unthinkable in the extreme.

    • LOL: Yngvar, BB753
  78. Zwarte Piet Buttigieg!

    A day late, but Pablo, Fabio, and their mates could pass for Somalimen, whose facial structures are often as close to ours as to their fellow Africans’:the

  79. @Anonymous
    People are suggesting that he was working for the CIA.

    Another possibility of course is that he was touring a poor, disorganized country for, um, recreational purposes a la John Maynard Keynes and his infamous jaunts to the Near East. In fact, the eagerness to connect him to the CIA may in part be due to a desire to distract from and avoid thinking about this alternative possibility.

    It could’ve been both.
    Remember Simpson’s episode ”Bart’s Law”, where Marge says ”Earl Warren wasn’t a sleazy male stripper”, and Homer replies ” Now who’s being naive?”

    Earl Warren wasn’t a stripper! from TheSimpsons

  80. @indocon
    Different topic, looks like the London bomber was flown for his burial to his native Pakistan, wonder who paid for that trip?
    https://news.sky.com/story/usman-khan-london-bridge-attackers-body-to-be-buried-in-pakistan-11879397

    Also so many iSteve stories today - Saudi pilot in training killing in FL (wait, we still have Saudis getting flight training in US!!!!!), incompetent and most likely diverse Miami cops doing a Rambo thing on Miami expressways.

    Also so many iSteve stories today – Saudi pilot in training killing in FL (wait, we still have Saudis getting flight training in US!!!!!), incompetent and most likely diverse Miami cops doing a Rambo thing on Miami expressways.

    Pensacola is closer to Charlotte, Louisville, and Dallas than to Miami. Yet, besides the cracker/Cuban difference, there isn’t much variance within the state, whether in elevation or psychology.


    This photo of Britton Hill at Lakewood Park is courtesy of TripAdvisor

  81. @Andy
    There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before "gay liberation", there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don't know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts

    Used to be?

  82. Rachel Kleinfeld’s mom, U. of Alaska psychologist Judith Kleinfeld, is kind of an Amy Wax/Christina Hoff Sommers-type dissident. Mr. Kleinfeld is a conservative-leaning federal judge in Fairbanks, nominated by Reagan and Bush. Her parents are Republicans. An interesting family …

    Coincidentally, as I mentioned in a thread about a week ago, I recently finished reading (Rachel) Kleinfeld’s book A Savage Order, which is about why life in places like Colombia, Sicily and Bihar is Full Of Interest. It’s, as you might expect, an interesting book. Her main thesis is that violence doesn’t just come from weak states lacking in capacity, but also often from corrupt states run by people who find tolerating a certain degree of criminality profitable. It’s like Amy Chua’s books in that iSteve readers will see interesting patterns and implications in it that aren’t directly addressed.

  83. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    Skull and Bones WAS disqualifying for Bush to lefties. They just pretended Kerry wasnt a member or something.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned. He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.
  84. @Wilkey

    African countries usually stick pretty carefully to old colonial borders
     
    One of the old charges against “the evils of colonialism” was that the colonial powers often crafted nations out of incompatible ethnic/tribal groups, and that’s why the countries they left behind were so unstable.

    Not a complaint you hear about colonialism much anymore, now that “diversity is our strength.”

    Lefties were making that arguement less than 15 years ago opposing the Iraq War.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Seeing how Iraq has decayed into a self-orbiting Death Star of at least four religious/ethnic groups where the most testosterone-fueled members resort to killing & bombing, they were not wrong.
  85. @SteveSailer

    A bit of discussion about Pete’s duties in Canada. Was he involves in the disastrous rollout of Target in Canada. Or some aspect of the alleged bread price scandal.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ChalicothereXChalicothereXw

  86. @Gunner
    Skull and Bones WAS disqualifying for Bush to lefties. They just pretended Kerry wasnt a member or something.

    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned. He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned.

    Why? The Bush family doesn't produce many decadent or ruined people, and their lost ones (e.g. Prescott Bush III or Jeb's daughter Noelle) don't take positions in the public sector or on philanthropic boards. Most of them spend their lives employed in business concerns and (with one exception) those who run for office only do so in middle age.



    He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Well, Palaeo, we often don't see ourselves as others do.
    , @anon
    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.

    Good fiction requires a suspension of disbelief. Lefties shut up quickly? Shut up at all? G'wan!

    Just saying.
  87. Some Somali boys scored a butt gig courtesy of Buttigieg.

  88. @Andy
    There has been a long tradition of gay Westerners going to the Arab world for sex tourism, since before "gay liberation", there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts). I don't know much about Somali culture, but that was true in Morocco (where Paul Bowles, once a famous writer but now somewhat forgotten, lived for decades), Egypt (where the Greek poet Cavafis lived). And in this blog several times it has been mentioned how gay pedophilia is actually de rigueur in Afghanistan even today.

    … there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts).

    Random people on the Internet trot this out all the time.

    I consider myself to be the canonical heterosexual. (Been attracted to girls since i can remember–at least since i was about five.)

    If a guy has any desire to stick his dick in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don’t care how desperate he is.

    If i was a young man in the muslim world and non-marital sex was unavailable … then i’d be doing whatever the heck it is that was necessary to get my ducks in a row to be able to score a wife. Uh … pretty much the same as was the case in the West before the slutpocalypse. I certainly wouldn’t be thinking “oh, gee, can’t have an actual woman, let me stick my penis in a boy”. Yuck.

    If that prospect is appealing to you, i’ve got news for you … you’re a queer! (Or bi, or one of those other letters, something.)

    Males are simply not sexually “interesting” to other normal males.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Go ask any vet that was stationed in Afghanistan or Iraq about the widespread prevalence of, "Man-Love Thursday."

    Case closed.
    , @Dissident

    If a guy has any desire to stick his [male member] in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don’t care how desperate he is.
     
    While I would not dispute that specific statement as you worded it, I would suggest that the topic you have responded-to is more complex, nuanced and ambiguous than you aver. There are a number of points and questions that I would wish to raise. For now, I will limit myself to presenting two areas for you to comment on.

    1.) How, in light of your contention, would you understand and explain the phenomenon known as prison rape. Specifically, it is widely reported and assumed to be true that when incarcerated and without access to females, it is quite common for even men who had up to that point been exclusively heterosexual to resort to anally raping their fellow male inmates. Would you contend that the only individuals who resort to such behavior are those who already had homoerotic proclivities (perhaps latent) to begin with? (Note that my purpose here is neither to dispute nor to support such a position. Rather, I am attempting to ascertain and understand your position more fully. And also, at the same time, to elicit responses to such questions as the ones I just posed, questions I have long wondered about.)

    2.) How do you view and understand the phenomenon of ancient Greek pederasty?

    Lest there be any question where I stand on a number of related matters, let me declare here that my posting history will reveal that I have condemned-- repeatedly, consistently and rather extensively-- both the whitewashing, normalization and promotion of depraved, dangerous acts and practices such as buggery (anal penetration), as well as the same of homosexuality, per se (specifically, the manifest lie that it is fully equivalent to and no less wholesome than heterosexuality). Additionally, I have singled-out the buggering of boys by men as a particularly heinous practice, one worthy of special censure. This comment and my others in the same thread (which include links to additional comments of mine in other threads) is perhaps the best place to start.
  89. @Harald Balzac
    Steve,
    A post about a gay mayor running for president leads to discussions about all kinds of stuff. Movies, CIA/Mossad, gay economists, pedophilia, pedo economists, Berber princesses, PMC's/CIA and how they fund seemingly standard issue consulting firms, African colonialism, Obama, Swalwell, Big Hollywood and on...
    Commentors here are an eclectic bunch...I like 'em.
    The whole thing, all of it, is a giant money washing operation run by Them(TM) for Them(TM). Who are Them(TM)? Not Us.
    Our tax dollars are shifted overseas, skimmed, washed and then split up between Them(TM) and our crooks over here and they all get away with it. How much of the Iran cash got back to Obama and the rest. Never asked and when looked into it never goes anywhere. That's the entire Ukranian thing, if that really gets out and generally understood the entire scam is revealed. It's as old as the hills...some of us got it early, some of us'll get it late.
    Them(TM) and (((Them))) may or may not be the same guys, it's a veritable Venn diagram of deceit.
    "We been had boys"

    Regards,
    Harry

    Everybody says what you’re saying. And none of us can tell the deranged from the prophet apart. Spell out whay you’re saying, calmly and rationally. Do you think that Government – as a very concept – is just a scam for entrepreneuring folk to stealing money from the masses?

    Can you explain this to us with the sort of intelligence you would use if you were explaining it in person to someone of intelligence whom you respect.

    • Replies: @Harald Balzac
    Moshe,
    Yes, in large part.
    No. Can't be explained. It's too big, too intertwined, too organized and too old. You know this.
    You're dealing with a deranged prophet, the best of both worlds. No calm or rational at the Balzacs.
    Only solution is to take the money out of it, not gonna happen...you know this too...
    Can we talk about my hair now?

    Regards,
    Harry

    Original comment was a compliment, I used eclectic, no one uses eclectic...but you knew that too...
  90. @Wilkey

    African countries usually stick pretty carefully to old colonial borders
     
    One of the old charges against “the evils of colonialism” was that the colonial powers often crafted nations out of incompatible ethnic/tribal groups, and that’s why the countries they left behind were so unstable.

    Not a complaint you hear about colonialism much anymore, now that “diversity is our strength.”

    Third World elites recognize the superiority of the Western-drawn map, for their own purposes.

  91. I truly wonder if the multiple users who suggested that Pete Buttigieg went to Somaliland to partake of homosexual pedophilia tourism are betraying their own “alternative lifestyle” fantasies…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I truly wonder if the multiple users who suggested that Pete Buttigieg went to Somaliland to partake of homosexual pedophilia tourism are betraying their own “alternative lifestyle” fantasies…
     
    Well, when you join the Arab League, you just ask to be tarred with the usual Arab stereotypes. Even the ones that don't fit.

    Most Somalimen probably share the attitude of one of the most urbane Somalis I knew, who had a recent European ancestor, and was a vocal Clinton supporter when most of his brethren were still apolitical in their new country.

    We were watching CNN in the late '90s when a brief gay rights story came on. He burst out, "You have to kill these people!"

    Consider that he was way on the liberal end of his people's spectrum. Imagine the folks back home.

    A few years ago, a Minneapolis Somali couple, worried about their son's New World trajectory, sent him to the old country to complete his secondary education. Before long, he was murdered.

    Few details of the incident made the press. But a Somali co-worker gave me his educated guess about what happened. The boy, after picking up had American habits, dared talk back to his teachers. That can be fatal.

    A Somali Emmett Till.

  92. @blank-misgivings
    Buttigieg strikes me as the most boring kind of puritan. The kind of gay guy that loses their virginity late and is even hyper monogamous (more so than the typical straight guy). Indeed so calculating and is he that I'm sure he 'subjugated' his sexual appetites to his long term career planning in his teenage years.

    But people on Unz seem to be mired in some kind of 1950's kitsch conservatism, which certainly helps our ruling classes, because the very valid lines of attack on this smug, odious, soulless individual get lost in blah blah about his anal passage.

    Buttigieg strikes me as the most boring kind of puritan. The kind of gay guy that loses their virginity late and is even hyper monogamous (more so than the typical straight guy).

    You’ve described a sociological ivory-billed woodpecker.

  93. @Paleo Liberal
    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned. He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.

    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned.

    Why? The Bush family doesn’t produce many decadent or ruined people, and their lost ones (e.g. Prescott Bush III or Jeb’s daughter Noelle) don’t take positions in the public sector or on philanthropic boards. Most of them spend their lives employed in business concerns and (with one exception) those who run for office only do so in middle age.

    He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Well, Palaeo, we often don’t see ourselves as others do.

  94. @EdwardM
    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn't hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    “A free people in a free republic ”

    Are those characters in a novel? That sounds like one of those boilerplate terms that politicians weave into their speeches such as; “patriots in our great democracy” or “honorable public servants”.

  95. @Anonymouse
    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century. If I'm wrong tell me who is better.

    Bernardo Bertolucci…. “The Conformist”. Need I say more?

  96. @Gunner
    Lefties were making that arguement less than 15 years ago opposing the Iraq War.

    Seeing how Iraq has decayed into a self-orbiting Death Star of at least four religious/ethnic groups where the most testosterone-fueled members resort to killing & bombing, they were not wrong.

  97. @Moshe
    Everybody says what you're saying. And none of us can tell the deranged from the prophet apart. Spell out whay you're saying, calmly and rationally. Do you think that Government - as a very concept - is just a scam for entrepreneuring folk to stealing money from the masses?

    Can you explain this to us with the sort of intelligence you would use if you were explaining it in person to someone of intelligence whom you respect.

    Moshe,
    Yes, in large part.
    No. Can’t be explained. It’s too big, too intertwined, too organized and too old. You know this.
    You’re dealing with a deranged prophet, the best of both worlds. No calm or rational at the Balzacs.
    Only solution is to take the money out of it, not gonna happen…you know this too…
    Can we talk about my hair now?

    Regards,
    Harry

    Original comment was a compliment, I used eclectic, no one uses eclectic…but you knew that too…

  98. @EdwardM
    A private company has every right to protect its intellectual property, including by requiring service providers like McKinsey consultants to agree to non-disclosure as a condition of working there.

    Good for them for sticking to that even if a former consultant becomes a SJW public figure. (The publicity from this story certainly doesn't hurt them, either.)

    A free people in a free republic should value the rule of law and property rights against the anti-capitalist lynch mob.

    LOL, we never hear, in concrete terms, what kind of “service” is provided and what “intellectual property” can be delivered by Muppet-looking ex-hall monitors on amyl nitrite with history and lit degrees

    The free people of your free republic get to enjoy those principles of law and property rights right up and only up until it starts to cool Prolapse Pete’s bathwater down at the Manhole.

    All your bleating about principles, yet it’s always loudest and most vociferous in defense of the people who would see you destroyed. I’m going to hazard a guess that you don’t like pornography beamed into kids’ eyeballs, or transvestites rubbing their cocks on furniture at the public library, but you defend the principles that allow it. Which makes your principles about as useful as a condom in Pete Buttigieg’s Bugchasing Bag.

    • Replies: @EdwardM

    LOL, we never hear, in concrete terms, what kind of “service” is provided and what “intellectual property” can be delivered by Muppet-looking ex-hall monitors on amyl nitrite with history and lit degrees
     
    Right, and it's not anyone's business besides the paying client and the company who voluntarily does the service. Or should we allow your judgment, or mine, to decide whether a contract is enforced?
  99. @theGreatSomaliReturn
    I truly wonder if the multiple users who suggested that Pete Buttigieg went to Somaliland to partake of homosexual pedophilia tourism are betraying their own "alternative lifestyle" fantasies...

    I truly wonder if the multiple users who suggested that Pete Buttigieg went to Somaliland to partake of homosexual pedophilia tourism are betraying their own “alternative lifestyle” fantasies…

    Well, when you join the Arab League, you just ask to be tarred with the usual Arab stereotypes. Even the ones that don’t fit.

    Most Somalimen probably share the attitude of one of the most urbane Somalis I knew, who had a recent European ancestor, and was a vocal Clinton supporter when most of his brethren were still apolitical in their new country.

    We were watching CNN in the late ’90s when a brief gay rights story came on. He burst out, “You have to kill these people!”

    Consider that he was way on the liberal end of his people’s spectrum. Imagine the folks back home.

    A few years ago, a Minneapolis Somali couple, worried about their son’s New World trajectory, sent him to the old country to complete his secondary education. Before long, he was murdered.

    Few details of the incident made the press. But a Somali co-worker gave me his educated guess about what happened. The boy, after picking up had American habits, dared talk back to his teachers. That can be fatal.

    A Somali Emmett Till.

  100. @Anonymouse
    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century. If I'm wrong tell me who is better.

    Bernardo Bertolucci is the greatest movie director of the 20th century.

    “Great movie direction”:

    Bertolucci caused controversy in 1972 with the film Last Tango in Paris, starring Marlon Brando, Maria Schneider, Jean-Pierre Léaud and Massimo Girotti. The film presents Brando’s character, Paul, as he copes with his wife’s suicide by emotionally and physically dominating a young woman, Jeane (Schneider). The depictions of Schneider, then 19 years old, were regarded as exploitative. In one scene, Paul anally rapes Jeane using butter as a lubricant. The use of butter was not in the script; Bertolucci and Brando had discussed it, but they did not tell Schneider. She said in 2007 that she had cried “real tears” during the scene and had felt humiliated and “a little raped”. In 2013 Bertolucci said that he had withheld the information from Schneider to generate a real “reaction of frustration and rage”. Brando alleged that Bertolucci had wanted the characters to have real sex, but Brando and Schneider both said it was simulated. In 2016 Bertolucci released a statement where he clarified that Schneider had known of the violence to be depicted in the scene, but had not been told about the use of butter.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_Bertolucci#Directorial_breakthrough

  101. Hey Reg,
    You sure that wasn’t Parkay? I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter…It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature…

    Harry

  102. @Daniel H
    What is up with McKinsey? It's like Skull & Bones. Initiates under threat of lawsuit/Social oppobrium can't talk about their time there. Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    A free people in a free republic should not tolerate these cabals.

    Thinking back, Skull & Bones should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry. It should be today, and I would add the likes of McKinsey, Goldman and a few others to the disqualifying list.

    Thinking back, [Harvard and Yale] should have been automatically diqualifying for both G.W and John Kerry.

    There.

    Wharton is in the Ivy League, too, but a vast improvement nevertheless.

  103. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Mayor-to-Be Buttigieg snoo0ping around as an adjunct CIA operative?

    Mayor-to-Be Buttigieg snoo0ping around as an adjunct CIA operative?

    So you’re saying he wasn’t working for “The Firm,” after all, but for The Company?

    Let’s see. Well, he did work for Navy Intelligence in Afghanistan, specifically in the Afghanistan Threat Finance Cell (ATFC). According to The Hill,

    The ATFC “identifies and disrupts Taliban, Al-Qaida and other insurgent financial support networks in Afghanistan.”

    Translated into English, that means they identify/ designate targets for assassination… or rendition to black sites, which are run by __ ?

    The commies at WSWS actually posted a fairly detailed review of Buttigieg’s career.

    They had a good review of CIA-connected Dems running in the 2018 elections as well.

    In addition to Buttplug’s work in Afghanistan, his time as a conference director for the Cohen Group from 2004 to 2005 (pre-McKinsey), and his work with the Truman Center are of particular note. Both of these institutions have a distinct… glow about them.

    What about Nathaniel Myers, Pete’s companion on this “touristy” jaunt?

    A “political analyst in Ethiopia.” I see. Sounds like a popular, remunerative profession — one which employs thousands of non-spook Americans. Which country’s military was involved in the ZOG-supported invasion of Somalia again?

    And what did Mr. Myers do at the Carnegie Endowment for “Peace“?

    He was a “visiting scholar in Carnegie’s Democracy and Rule of Law program. His research focuses on the intersection of American foreign assistance and foreign policy.”

    Well that sounds very peaceful, high-minded, and legal. Democratic and intersectional, even. Clearly a person who would have nothing to do with anything so crass as “regime change” or “enhanced interrogation.”

    Myers has worked for various NGOs in numerous places around the world, including Yemen. He has also worked for the World Bank. And for USAID — which, as every educated person knows, is a charitable, purely humanitarian organization with absolutely zero connections to the CIA.

    And (of course) Myers is an international affairs fellow with the CFR.

    Buttigieg looks like a less-melanated version of Obama — homosexuality, intelligence connections, and (((Pritzker))) backing.

    E. Michael Jones actually lives down the street from Pete, and has done a couple of good videos on him.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  104. @AnotherDad

    ... there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts).
     
    Random people on the Internet trot this out all the time.

    I consider myself to be the canonical heterosexual. (Been attracted to girls since i can remember--at least since i was about five.)

    If a guy has any desire to stick his dick in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don't care how desperate he is.

    If i was a young man in the muslim world and non-marital sex was unavailable ... then i'd be doing whatever the heck it is that was necessary to get my ducks in a row to be able to score a wife. Uh ... pretty much the same as was the case in the West before the slutpocalypse. I certainly wouldn't be thinking "oh, gee, can't have an actual woman, let me stick my penis in a boy". Yuck.

    If that prospect is appealing to you, i've got news for you ... you're a queer! (Or bi, or one of those other letters, something.)

    Males are simply not sexually "interesting" to other normal males.

    Go ask any vet that was stationed in Afghanistan or Iraq about the widespread prevalence of, “Man-Love Thursday.”

    Case closed.

  105. @SBaker
    Muslim females claiming to be virgin, take it up the distal GI tract routinely, so when they get married they still claim virginity.

    The Maghrebiennes I knew all loved to dance the horizontal mambo as Nature intended men and women to.

    Granted, they weren’t great Muslims.

    Or virgins.

  106. @anon

    Keynes’s particular depravity appears to have been pedophilia.
     
    Call me a pedant if you like, but Keynes was a pederast.

    Pedophilia definitely isn't healthy, but it doesn't involve physical abuse.

    Pedophilia definitely isn’t healthy, but it doesn’t involve physical abuse.

    Oh, no? The carnal use, for sexual gratification, of a pre-pubescent child by an adult? You do not consider that a form of physical abuse?

    Of course, the mere attraction itself would not, as long as it is not acted upon, involve any abuse. But I cannot see how your statement, in the context it was made, could be parsed as making that distinction.

  107. @More R1b, Less H1B
    LOL, we never hear, in concrete terms, what kind of "service" is provided and what "intellectual property" can be delivered by Muppet-looking ex-hall monitors on amyl nitrite with history and lit degrees

    The free people of your free republic get to enjoy those principles of law and property rights right up and only up until it starts to cool Prolapse Pete's bathwater down at the Manhole.

    All your bleating about principles, yet it's always loudest and most vociferous in defense of the people who would see you destroyed. I'm going to hazard a guess that you don't like pornography beamed into kids' eyeballs, or transvestites rubbing their cocks on furniture at the public library, but you defend the principles that allow it. Which makes your principles about as useful as a condom in Pete Buttigieg's Bugchasing Bag.

    LOL, we never hear, in concrete terms, what kind of “service” is provided and what “intellectual property” can be delivered by Muppet-looking ex-hall monitors on amyl nitrite with history and lit degrees

    Right, and it’s not anyone’s business besides the paying client and the company who voluntarily does the service. Or should we allow your judgment, or mine, to decide whether a contract is enforced?

  108. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    Speaking as a lefty, W Bush being part of the Bush family was disqualifying as far as I was concerned. He seemed like a dumber neo-con version of his father. Turns out he was worse.

    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.

    Whenever lefties are grumbling about Trump being “worst president ever”, I ask if Trump managed to get us into two endless wars and crash the economy twice, the way W did. That shuts them up quickly.

    Good fiction requires a suspension of disbelief. Lefties shut up quickly? Shut up at all? G’wan!

    Just saying.

  109. @AnotherDad

    ... there was actually much more toleration for homosexuality in the Islamic world than in the West. Of course, when you forbid women from going outside their houses, eventually men relieve their urges elsewhere (the same way prison used to be a hotbed of gay acts).
     
    Random people on the Internet trot this out all the time.

    I consider myself to be the canonical heterosexual. (Been attracted to girls since i can remember--at least since i was about five.)

    If a guy has any desire to stick his dick in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don't care how desperate he is.

    If i was a young man in the muslim world and non-marital sex was unavailable ... then i'd be doing whatever the heck it is that was necessary to get my ducks in a row to be able to score a wife. Uh ... pretty much the same as was the case in the West before the slutpocalypse. I certainly wouldn't be thinking "oh, gee, can't have an actual woman, let me stick my penis in a boy". Yuck.

    If that prospect is appealing to you, i've got news for you ... you're a queer! (Or bi, or one of those other letters, something.)

    Males are simply not sexually "interesting" to other normal males.

    If a guy has any desire to stick his [male member] in some other guy, he is not a normal heterosexual. I don’t care how desperate he is.

    While I would not dispute that specific statement as you worded it, I would suggest that the topic you have responded-to is more complex, nuanced and ambiguous than you aver. There are a number of points and questions that I would wish to raise. For now, I will limit myself to presenting two areas for you to comment on.

    1.) How, in light of your contention, would you understand and explain the phenomenon known as prison rape. Specifically, it is widely reported and assumed to be true that when incarcerated and without access to females, it is quite common for even men who had up to that point been exclusively heterosexual to resort to anally raping their fellow male inmates. Would you contend that the only individuals who resort to such behavior are those who already had homoerotic proclivities (perhaps latent) to begin with? (Note that my purpose here is neither to dispute nor to support such a position. Rather, I am attempting to ascertain and understand your position more fully. And also, at the same time, to elicit responses to such questions as the ones I just posed, questions I have long wondered about.)

    2.) How do you view and understand the phenomenon of ancient Greek pederasty?

    Lest there be any question where I stand on a number of related matters, let me declare here that my posting history will reveal that I have condemned– repeatedly, consistently and rather extensively– both the whitewashing, normalization and promotion of depraved, dangerous acts and practices such as buggery (anal penetration), as well as the same of homosexuality, per se (specifically, the manifest lie that it is fully equivalent to and no less wholesome than heterosexuality). Additionally, I have singled-out the buggering of boys by men as a particularly heinous practice, one worthy of special censure. This comment and my others in the same thread (which include links to additional comments of mine in other threads) is perhaps the best place to start.

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