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From the Athens [Georgia] Banner-Herald:

Athens teen’s shooting death linked to feud between transgender groups, police say

Posted June 28, 2017 03:58 pm
By Joe Johnson

The weekend fatal shooting of a teen at an apartment complex near downtown Athens was the culmination of a feud between two transgender groups, Athens-Clarke County police confirmed Wednesday.

Rayquann Deonte Jernigan, 17, who was known to friends by the chosen name of Ava Le’Ray Barrin, was killed Sunday morning by a single gunshot fired by 21-year-old Jalen Breon Brown in the parking lot of Riverview Apartments on College Avenue, police said. …

Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

“What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”

It’s not really uncommon, however, for black trannies to get into brawls. I can recall back in the 1980s when my wife’s friend A., who lived in the Boys Town neighborhood on the Chicago’s north side, had to get the bus downtown one Sunday morning at 4am. While she was waiting for the bus, the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny hooker with the six inch platform heels started pushing her and screaming at her that everybody knows that this was his street corner.

 
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  1. I’m still trying to determine whether this news piece, and its news sources, are genuine or small town Onion-esque spoofing. Half the accompanying articles don’t help.

    I kind of hope it is genuine, as that would indicate that we are much closer to intersectional implosion than I dared hope.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The photos suggest it is real.

    Anyway, it's not really uncommon for black transvestite hookers to get into brawls, either with the public or with each other. Back in the 1980s, my wife's friend A. had to take the bus to downtown Chicago from the Boystown neighborhood one Sunday morning at 4 am, and the neighborhood's 6'4" black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.

    , @BenKenobi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVE01oOTAM
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.
    , @Jake
    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
  2. So it’s a pink-on-pink? Or maybe rainbow-on-rainbow.

    Do I hear the strains of the world’s smallest violin?

  3. Blacks seem to be over represented in the transosphere. Definitely punching above their weight . 12% of the population but 50%+ of trannies. Actually similar proportions to blacks on tv commercials . Ya got a graph for that , Steve ?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I noticed that when the National Geographic made up its gender-bending cover (http://press.nationalgeographic.com/files/2016/12/CV-0117_newsstand.jpg) it made sure the only non-oddity was an unemasculated black male.
    , @Ed
    Transgenderism is a mental disorder and in general blacks are over represented in mental ailments in particular schizophrenia. So blacks being over represented among trannies is probably true.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4274585/
  4. @Laugh Track
    I'm still trying to determine whether this news piece, and its news sources, are genuine or small town Onion-esque spoofing. Half the accompanying articles don't help.

    I kind of hope it is genuine, as that would indicate that we are much closer to intersectional implosion than I dared hope.

    The photos suggest it is real.

    Anyway, it’s not really uncommon for black transvestite hookers to get into brawls, either with the public or with each other. Back in the 1980s, my wife’s friend A. had to take the bus to downtown Chicago from the Boystown neighborhood one Sunday morning at 4 am, and the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    I'll second that, with my own observation, also from the 1980s, having observed a couple of fights in New York myself. One involved two black transvestites who spotted the same handbag at the same time, being offered for sale on a lower Manhattan sidewalk. A massive spat ensued, with one transvestite, slimmer and more fleet of foot, finally snatching the bag from the other and running away, successfully. He was wearing a pink bikini and was barefoot.

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.

    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.
     
    "Herm corner", Steve. Let's watch those possessive pronouns, ay?

    However, if we're going to maunder a bit in the past, I misspent a year of my yute working on the DC Metro train control system. Union job, 3-month shift assignment seniority system, so I was working midnights for half of it. Two dedicated former Western Electric T-1 techs kept the entire MetroRail train system operational by fixing the rapidly-decaying electronics every night. The two senior techs I worked with, Bruce and Brian, zoomed around DC in a Metro van from midnight to around 3:30AM, doing PMS and replacing circuit boards. Then we headed for the most comfortable comm room on the rail system and slept until 7AM. Good pay, and if you could get enough sleep, enough time to work a second job -- retire at 55 in mighty good financial shape.

    Thus, every morning we're coming westbound on H Street before rush hour really got going. There was one of those 6'4" trannies stationed at the corner of H and a cross-street. Depending on who was driving, either Bruce or Brian would hang out waist-high from the passenger-side window, and issue a broadside of screamed slurs, accusations, general insults of the traditional, er, homophobic nature, to an equally inventive stream of anti-honkey talk from the corner.

    An almost daily event greatly enjoyed by all participants. My natural naivete was shattered forever, as you might imagine.

    Well ... that's just a note in passing. Linh Dinh I'm not.
  5. It’s obviously Trump’s fault…

    • Replies: @WR
    That goes without saying. The second culprit is the white-cis-male collective (possibly through the use of violence inducing brainwaves).
  6. My fear is ( my kids’ age group, btw ) that they are taking everything seriously.

  7. Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

    “What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”

    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    Reports of these cases in the mainstream media involving protected classes such as transgenders (or double protected classes such as black transgenders) are frustrating to read because you rarely are told the whole story, lest the omitted facts prompt readers to suspect a correlation between the protected class and damaging behavior.

    So what was this really about? Drugs? Or prostitution? Or both?

    • Replies: @Triumph104

    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?
     
    When white folks catch a cold, black folks get pneumonia.
    , @Opinionator
    Not necessarily. The article states only that she was the 14th trans woman killed this year. What about trans men?
    , @Arclight
    The intersectionalists are always going on about rising violence against queer and trans people but are oddly silent on who is doing the killing and why.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Perhaps it's the "Danny Bonaduce" effect.
    Trannies present selves as women hookers. All is well til the John discovers the truth. Then it's clobberin' time.
  8. @anon
    Blacks seem to be over represented in the transosphere. Definitely punching above their weight . 12% of the population but 50%+ of trannies. Actually similar proportions to blacks on tv commercials . Ya got a graph for that , Steve ?

    I noticed that when the National Geographic made up its gender-bending cover (http://press.nationalgeographic.com/files/2016/12/CV-0117_newsstand.jpg) it made sure the only non-oddity was an unemasculated black male.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, just picked up that issue off the free desk at our library. There is a most haunting photograph of a young Indonesian girl, writhing in pain,while being restrained on a table top as a woman performs FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) on her. The room is filled with women performing the procedure on multiple girls in a mass ceremony. Where are the feminists who claim that a return to coat hanger abortions is on America's horizon? Of course, this would be a taboo cultural imposition if the feminists protested this barbaric act.
  9. I see a 21st century remake of West Side Story in the works, with EJ Johnson as Tony and RuPaul as Officer Krupke.

  10. This is like one of those 1960’s new wave science fiction stories about the future. You know it was supposed to be satire. It’s like we are living in a John Brunner or Philip K. Dick novel.

    • LOL: Autochthon
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Last line of Stand on Zanzibar, where the AI Shalmaneser is approaching Stoner stage, while reading the news:

    "Christ, what an imagination I've got."
  11. Im thinking of that scene from risky business…

  12. “Rayquann Deonte Jernigan, 17, who was known to friends by the chosen name of Ava Le’Ray Barrin”

    Because the name Rayquann was too stereotypically masculine?

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    Sheeeiiittt!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo
  13. His street corner?” Careful you stay away from Canada! Speaking of Canadia….

    Hey, here’s a relatedly Sailerbaitish goody; this one in the mould of imported inter-ethnic feuding – Tibetans and Chinee going at it in Vancouver over football….

    Apparently the Chinese gubmint got in on the act, too, by denying visas to the Tibetans, but maybe that was something unrelated to the Canadian kerfuffle…I cannot keep up with this nonsense much.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I live in Vancouver -- the ethnic politics around here are hilarious in a Heath-Ledger-Joker kind of way.
    , @TWS
    Chinese and Tibetans play football in Canada?
  14. Seriously the victim named himself after a Chrsyler LeBaron?

  15. I remember when you couldn`t walk around Kings Cross in London without being asked for cigarettes by very tall tranny hookers. Sadly the area has been cleaned up now.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Or Bois de Boulogne in Paris. I'm not sure what it's like these days, but the tranny hookers there used to be all Brazilian, for some reason.
    , @J
    Unforgettable. Sadly, never gathered the courage to take a picture.
  16. I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Parting thought: if the Matrix sequels had been as critically- and popularly-acclaimed as the original, then they would still be credited to the Wachowski Brothers.

    (Think about the groupie prospects for top directors vs the mid-tier-and-declining).
    , @Alec Leamas
    My hunch is that the prevalence of black trannies (M to F) probably has something to do with the willingness of black men to screw anything that moves. The rumored love affair between Magic Johnson (heh) and Jermaine Stewart comes to mind. And I believe that Johnson's son is trending towards black tranny-dom.
    , @anonymous coward

    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?
     
    Them working as prostitutes is. Outside of the comfortable rich American person reality-distortion bubble, trannies only exist for prostitution purposes. Good lord, why are (white) Americans so out of touch with the real world??
    , @Thea
    This sounds similar to the psychology attributed by MRA to former carousel riders after they hit the wall.

    I prefer a spiritual explanation that sin can have terrible consequence even in this life. Licentiousness eats at a person's soul.

    , @kihowi
    I think it's low intelligence. Dumb people can only deal with appearances because creating a model of what can't be seen takes too many clock cycles. Which is why blacks buy so many Nikes.

    So while men of other races who realize they're not very manly can hide it or integrate it into their own definition of masculinity, blacks can't deal with that contradiction so they start wearing a dress and lisping.

    , @e
    "... but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?"

    Genetic load perhaps. Lots of mutations.
    , @Anonym

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.


    Wow. I guess you learn something new every day. Everyone associates Thailand and "ladyboy" - a google and...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_Thailand

    Seems you may be on to something.

    There are way more loser males in today's society vs the 1950s. The baby boom ended in 1964, roughly when the poz began. The contraceptive pill became an instant hit in 1962, but increased in popularity over the next few years.

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/a-brief-history-of-the-birth-control-pill/480/

    Net result is that women sleep recreationally with the male 8-10s in their twenties and themselves drift lower down the scale. A female 6 at 23 is likely a 4-5 at 30. It has to be frustrating for the lower tier men and the women who wake up in their 30s and realize they should have aimed lower and got commitment.

    I don't think your explanation for Bruce Jenner holds though. Is there any evidence Jenner is attracting groupies?
  17. @Steve Sailer
    The photos suggest it is real.

    Anyway, it's not really uncommon for black transvestite hookers to get into brawls, either with the public or with each other. Back in the 1980s, my wife's friend A. had to take the bus to downtown Chicago from the Boystown neighborhood one Sunday morning at 4 am, and the neighborhood's 6'4" black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.

    I’ll second that, with my own observation, also from the 1980s, having observed a couple of fights in New York myself. One involved two black transvestites who spotted the same handbag at the same time, being offered for sale on a lower Manhattan sidewalk. A massive spat ensued, with one transvestite, slimmer and more fleet of foot, finally snatching the bag from the other and running away, successfully. He was wearing a pink bikini and was barefoot.

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.
     
    Don't worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You'll have nothing to miss again for eternity.

    Unless you're a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.
  18. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    Parting thought: if the Matrix sequels had been as critically- and popularly-acclaimed as the original, then they would still be credited to the Wachowski Brothers.

    (Think about the groupie prospects for top directors vs the mid-tier-and-declining).

    • Replies: @TWS
    Steve did an article about the brothers' descent into perversion and fetish and how it ruined their creativity.
  19. OT, but always interesting

    The worrying trend of increasing anti semitism in the Trump’s U.S.A. goes on unabated:

    among the best paid CEOs, hardly one third belong to the Jewish faith.

  20. So this is what’s occurring in the underground trans movement during the month of Pride.

  21. OT: Steve’s bestie Morris Dees and his SPLC are the subject of a fairly critical expose at Politico (and there’s more at this post from PowerLine, where I found the Politico link).

  22. I refuse to read any stories about transgender creatures that fail to use the proper pronoun forms “it” and “its” etc.

  23. @Laugh Track
    I'm still trying to determine whether this news piece, and its news sources, are genuine or small town Onion-esque spoofing. Half the accompanying articles don't help.

    I kind of hope it is genuine, as that would indicate that we are much closer to intersectional implosion than I dared hope.

  24. @Autochthon
    "His street corner?" Careful you stay away from Canada! Speaking of Canadia....

    Hey, here's a relatedly Sailerbaitish goody; this one in the mould of imported inter-ethnic feuding – Tibetans and Chinee going at it in Vancouver over football....

    Apparently the Chinese gubmint got in on the act, too, by denying visas to the Tibetans, but maybe that was something unrelated to the Canadian kerfuffle...I cannot keep up with this nonsense much.

    I live in Vancouver — the ethnic politics around here are hilarious in a Heath-Ledger-Joker kind of way.

  25. Have you met Jamil? Interesting case. Effeminate but aggressive tranny, gender-studies charismatic leading the feminist gang that shut down Evergreen College. These girls imagine they’d never take orders from a man. There’s another video of Jamil issuing orders to the group before the shutdown that leave no doubt he’s in command.

    ?start=585

    So while he’s flouncing about as if he’s just a big girl, crying at will (I remember reading somewhere in a history of first generation of African Big Men leaders the one thing they shared in addition to cruelty was an ability to cry on cue) he’s not only adopting the familiar female mimicry of the tranny (and he appears genuinely that, at least, but I suspect that type often sees the advantage in identifying as “femme” nowadays to run the same game as Jamil) but he’s discovered a second hustle: he can masquerade as a female, gain access to their innermost circle as one of them and then use his superior guile and male dominance to take over.

    Beats being known as a “bitch” around the hood, I imagine.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    That video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzRCefGfX0&t=585s
    , @dr kill
    Men are better than women at everything, including being women.
  26. @Autochthon
    "His street corner?" Careful you stay away from Canada! Speaking of Canadia....

    Hey, here's a relatedly Sailerbaitish goody; this one in the mould of imported inter-ethnic feuding – Tibetans and Chinee going at it in Vancouver over football....

    Apparently the Chinese gubmint got in on the act, too, by denying visas to the Tibetans, but maybe that was something unrelated to the Canadian kerfuffle...I cannot keep up with this nonsense much.

    Chinese and Tibetans play football in Canada?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    TWS, I think he means soccer. Canadians don't even play football in Canada, unless you consider CFL to be football.
  27. @Achilles

    Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

    “What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”
     
    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    Reports of these cases in the mainstream media involving protected classes such as transgenders (or double protected classes such as black transgenders) are frustrating to read because you rarely are told the whole story, lest the omitted facts prompt readers to suspect a correlation between the protected class and damaging behavior.

    So what was this really about? Drugs? Or prostitution? Or both?

    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    When white folks catch a cold, black folks get pneumonia.

  28. anon • Disclaimer says:

    It’s been a real struggle with pronouns.

    The murderer is referred to as ‘He’.

    Cause … we have to make sure to call out the mislabeling of the victim. But the perp? No need to be quite so fastidious.

    There is more to this. The victim and perp knew each other. Neither lived at the apartment complex but both were visiting friends there.

    The US military must put up with them, but at least they enjoy fighting.

    • LOL: Kyle McKenna
  29. @snorlax
    Parting thought: if the Matrix sequels had been as critically- and popularly-acclaimed as the original, then they would still be credited to the Wachowski Brothers.

    (Think about the groupie prospects for top directors vs the mid-tier-and-declining).

    Steve did an article about the brothers’ descent into perversion and fetish and how it ruined their creativity.

  30. @Dennis Dale
    Have you met Jamil? Interesting case. Effeminate but aggressive tranny, gender-studies charismatic leading the feminist gang that shut down Evergreen College. These girls imagine they'd never take orders from a man. There's another video of Jamil issuing orders to the group before the shutdown that leave no doubt he's in command.

    ?start=585


    So while he's flouncing about as if he's just a big girl, crying at will (I remember reading somewhere in a history of first generation of African Big Men leaders the one thing they shared in addition to cruelty was an ability to cry on cue) he's not only adopting the familiar female mimicry of the tranny (and he appears genuinely that, at least, but I suspect that type often sees the advantage in identifying as "femme" nowadays to run the same game as Jamil) but he's discovered a second hustle: he can masquerade as a female, gain access to their innermost circle as one of them and then use his superior guile and male dominance to take over.

    Beats being known as a "bitch" around the hood, I imagine.

    That video:

    • Replies: @Anon
    Emasculated men (e.g. harem eunuchs, or homosexual clergy, etc.,) have been the most manipulative and determined behind-the-scenes string pullers in all human history. Their decisions are usually awful for the overall welfare of the nation-state and its people. There's no avoiding the latter conclusion once you've read enough history. Being petty, catty, selfish, vindictive, gleefully malicious, two-faced, and a nurser of grudges do not allow you to make good judgment calls regarding what's best for other people. Extreme confusion over gender identity is a feature of borderline personality disorder, and borderlines are emotionally unstable. You do not let unstable people run anything unless you're an idiot.
  31. Wikipedia has a list of killed transgendered people around the world.

    For the 26 killed in the United States in 2016, 17 were black, 3 “of color”, 3 Hispanic/Latina, 2 white, and 1 unknown.

    One of the whites was mentally ill and killed by police doing a wellness check. The unknown person’s family appears to be white or Native American. (LINK)

    Most of the deaths are the result of chaotic lives, killed by friends, domestic partners, sex partners, and arch rivals. The “unknown race” was homeless and poured bottles of urine in the tent of rivals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people#United_States_3

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    One of the whites was mentally ill and killed by police doing a wellness check.

    They were all mentally ill.
  32. The initial argument that started the feud was not even between Brown and Jernigan, who had not yet legally changed his name, Saulters said.

    “It started out as an argument between friends of the suspect and victim,” Saulters said.

    It was cuz dat bitch Rosine always startin’ shit with dat sign langwitch.

  33. OT Unz.com issue: the “request desktop site” feature on mobile browsers does not work. Even for big hi res phones. I recall it working before.

  34. Rayquann Deonte Jernigan, 17, who was known to friends by the chosen name of Ava Le’Ray Barrin, was killed Sunday morning by a single gunshot fired by 21-year-old Jalen Breon Brown

    I just figured out how I’m going to make my fortune. I’m going to design a news aggregator website that filters out any articles that don’t have American names like Mary Sue Eliot and Tom Richardson. Readers will never be troubled by a “Le’Ray Barrin nee Deonte Jernigan” again.

    The only problem is that there won’t be any news in the aggregator, all of the salacious gossip being about such Deonte Jernigans…

  35. @PiltdownMan
    I'll second that, with my own observation, also from the 1980s, having observed a couple of fights in New York myself. One involved two black transvestites who spotted the same handbag at the same time, being offered for sale on a lower Manhattan sidewalk. A massive spat ensued, with one transvestite, slimmer and more fleet of foot, finally snatching the bag from the other and running away, successfully. He was wearing a pink bikini and was barefoot.

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.

    Don’t worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You’ll have nothing to miss again for eternity.

    Unless you’re a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Brb omw 2 Confession.

    Dante was a piker in comparison.

    , @AM

    Don’t worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You’ll have nothing to miss again for eternity.
     
    LOL! This is a pretty good definition of Hell, except you're deeply involved in who wins the fight.

    Unless you’re a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.
     
    Probably not suffering from nostalgia, if it all goes right. ;) In any event, Christians have every opportunity to join in black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods.
  36. The only take-away liberals and the MSM will get from this is “minority LGBTQ+ people are disproportionately targeted for murder,” with the implied aggressors being white people. Cause hey, who cares about the facts anymore?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Exactly, the Black Transwomen Inc. statement is in keeping with this. It's pretty obvious that most of these people were killed in line with chaotic lifestyles but it allows the vague implication that whitey was to blame. Gangs of alt-right droogs.

    https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/83/Clock09.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130613032921
  37. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    My hunch is that the prevalence of black trannies (M to F) probably has something to do with the willingness of black men to screw anything that moves. The rumored love affair between Magic Johnson (heh) and Jermaine Stewart comes to mind. And I believe that Johnson’s son is trending towards black tranny-dom.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    I 'member...

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/08/17/billboard-of-magic-johnson-and-isiah-thomas-kissing-appears-in-l-a-photo/
  38. @anon
    Blacks seem to be over represented in the transosphere. Definitely punching above their weight . 12% of the population but 50%+ of trannies. Actually similar proportions to blacks on tv commercials . Ya got a graph for that , Steve ?

    Transgenderism is a mental disorder and in general blacks are over represented in mental ailments in particular schizophrenia. So blacks being over represented among trannies is probably true.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4274585/

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    If I recall, anti-psychotics reduce feeling of gender dysphoria as well.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Yes it's true that blacks have a schizophrenia rate two or three times that of whites or Asians. But transgenderism is better classified as a birth defect not a mental disorder. There are several authoritative sources on the Web that explain this . Transgenderism is not a medical mystery like homosexuality. It is reasonably well understood.
  39. In the more things change department, black tranny hookers still work near the IHOP.

    Transgendered people have very high rates of mental illness of all stripes. This causes them to commit and be victims of all sorts of crimes. The current post at slatestarcodex has a pretty good rundown on the how’s and why of their affliction. Blacks also have higher rates of mental illness. I suspect the intersection of those sets is large.

  40. “My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto.”

    I’ve actually wondered if this explains some part of homosexuality and effeminacy amongst males in general. My own utterly unsupported theory is that young boys compete for everything every moment they are alive. They talk over each other, they compete in sports, they compete in video games, they compete for attention from girls, they compete compete compete (note: this probably isn’t particularly controversial. It may even be the standard description of male behavior). This doesn’t mean they are always fighting, or always overtly aggressive towards each other: the competition ranges from overt (fight, football, insults) to covert (vie for alpha dominance in a singles bar, snide comments amongst groups of boys/men, etc).

    Some aren’t very good at it. Many of those withdraw. They are the nerds of our culture. Others accept their status-they are the foolish buddy, the part of the ‘gang’ that isn’t the leader (and again, I don’t mean ‘gang’ in terms of a criminal group-it may be just a group fo 5 guys on a fishing trip, with one dominant and the other 4 not so), the offensive lineman to the running back and quarterback, etc.

    But some resent the dominance game, and resent their place in it (near the bottom) and go full Sampson-and embrace the anti-alpha side. Instead of competing for alpha status, they accept fully the anti-alpha status, and become Paul Lynde or Richard Simmons. Its a way of diffusing the conflict-not by accepting their role as beta male, and not by continuing to fight a fight they can’t win (against the alpha male)-but instead go full effeminate, or ‘sissy’. When an alpha male beats the strongest guy in the school (say, when the quarterback ‘wins’ against the offensive tackle), it means something. When an alpha male ‘wins’ and takes the prettiest girl to the prom, it means something (and when the alpha 8 year old dominates a kickball game, it means something). But when an alpha male dominates a Richard Simmons, it doesn’t mean anything. The alpha hasn’t gained anything he didn’t have before, and Richard Simmons didn’t lose anything he had before.

    Effeminacy may be a coping mechanism some choose to avoid losing the male dominance game.

    joe

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Who was the alpha male in the B-52s?
    I'm thinking Kate Pierson?
    , @blank-misgivings
    I doubt it: sexual preference seems to emerge early (prior to pubescent or even pre pubescent social bonding and competition) and from the lizard brain. These kind of socio-cultural explanations could apply to 'late onset homosexuality' I suppose or certain kinds of opportunistic homosexuality among people already predisposed to be bisexual, but otherwise I doubt it.
  41. @Dennis Dale
    Have you met Jamil? Interesting case. Effeminate but aggressive tranny, gender-studies charismatic leading the feminist gang that shut down Evergreen College. These girls imagine they'd never take orders from a man. There's another video of Jamil issuing orders to the group before the shutdown that leave no doubt he's in command.

    ?start=585


    So while he's flouncing about as if he's just a big girl, crying at will (I remember reading somewhere in a history of first generation of African Big Men leaders the one thing they shared in addition to cruelty was an ability to cry on cue) he's not only adopting the familiar female mimicry of the tranny (and he appears genuinely that, at least, but I suspect that type often sees the advantage in identifying as "femme" nowadays to run the same game as Jamil) but he's discovered a second hustle: he can masquerade as a female, gain access to their innermost circle as one of them and then use his superior guile and male dominance to take over.

    Beats being known as a "bitch" around the hood, I imagine.

    Men are better than women at everything, including being women.

  42. It’s not really uncommon, however, for black trannies to get into brawls.

    Tell me about it — in my town we had to pass an ordinance against black trannies loitering — because whenever they did inevitably there was trouble — however we couldn’t get them to stop marking their territory by pissing on the fire hydrants.

  43. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Them working as prostitutes is. Outside of the comfortable rich American person reality-distortion bubble, trannies only exist for prostitution purposes. Good lord, why are (white) Americans so out of touch with the real world??

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Obviously all the participants in this story, and 99.99%+ of transgender underclass blacks are prostitutes. I had thought that goes without saying, although I'd alluded to it anyway ("no legitimate employment").

    But as far as I can tell transgender prostitutes aren't faking it at all: they really do want to live as women, make permanent surgical alterations to their bodies etc, and it's just a relatively-convenient way for them to earn cash.
    , @Wency
    This sounds right to me.

    An analogy is the polyamory of the highly educated vs. the reckless promiscuity of the lower classes. They share similarities, but it makes more sense to view them as categorically distinct. One is a conscious subversion of culture and tradition, while the other is old-fashioned "damn the consequences" animal lust.

    Likewise the transgenderism of the Wachowskis/Jenner vs. the trannyism of black prostitutes.
  44. @Laugh Track
    I'm still trying to determine whether this news piece, and its news sources, are genuine or small town Onion-esque spoofing. Half the accompanying articles don't help.

    I kind of hope it is genuine, as that would indicate that we are much closer to intersectional implosion than I dared hope.

    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise “fluid,” or maybe it’s always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It’s really a shame our elite–whose personal lives are often downright Victorian–are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @AM

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It’s really a shame our elite–whose personal lives are often downright Victorian–are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.
     
    Yeah, it's hard to avoid that wealth elite can literally afford behaviors that will completely mess up the lives of people who have no money.

    But if the wealthy elite pushes "tolerance" as a high value, guess who doesn't ever have to be a good role model or even pretend care about others?
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Elite's personal lives downright Victorian?

    So you're sayin' they're all closeted LGBT? That was the "deal" in Victorian times; all this stuff went on, but it was kept discrete, except when it was not?
    , @epochehusserl
    The elite don't see these trends as problematic. How could they do anything about these trends now?
    , @Jake
    One of the things many early European explorers and missionaries in the Dark Continent noted was the tendency of many - perhaps most - black African kings and other male royalty and war leaders to be pederasts who also enjoyed raping male war captives.

    Shaka Zulu for one example, loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice.

    And he is easily the most esteemed native black African leader who opposed Europeans to contemporary blacks in America and Europe. Shaka Zulu is a great role model to blacks.

    Perhaps our Liberals will start to demand we replace all Confederate statues with statues of Shaka raping a nine year old boy while watching the immolation of 300 of his concubines.

    Black Lives Matter!
    , @Rob Horner
    You're under selling Athens. It's quite possibly the only place I've visited, outside of Williamsburg or the Bay Area, that one can reliably find black hipster gangs. Tranny gang is new, but it doesn't shock me at all.

    Converged doesn't quite describe it. Athens is a real twilight zone in the region. Arguably the most insane prog city with a population so small. I haven't been by in several years so one can only assume it's getting worse. That local paper and their other native periodicals make Jacobin and Salon look mainstream.

    , @Camlost
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    This is exactly right about Athens. They've got several housing projects, plus a lot of low-rent apartment complexes that are somewhat dense. All you have to do is read the Athens newspaper to see how many fresh-faced white college students get mugged by the usual suspects when stumbling back home from the downtown bar scene. They've definitely acquired some of the unwanteds from nearby Atlanta due to the exceedingly cheap housing.

    Atlanta tore down their high-density public housing in the decade before the Olympics (for obvious reasons), scattering their riff-raff to places beyond the airport like Clayton County, Forest Park, College Park or South Dekalb.

    Part of the reason that ALL blacks tend to do better for themselves in the Atlanta region is that they are saved from each other by living much farther apart - no high-rise tenements like Cabrini Green or what you'd see in a place like Chicago. Even the lowest class of blacks in Atlanta often lives in a single-family home or duplex in a cul-de-sac.
  45. @Chrisnonymous

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.
     
    Don't worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You'll have nothing to miss again for eternity.

    Unless you're a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.

    Brb omw 2 Confession.

    Dante was a piker in comparison.

  46. I thought the last paragraph was predictable in its blame YT sort of way.

  47. Brawling trannie street-gangs? Sounds like the scenario for a new Broadway musical.

    When you’re a trans,
    You’re a trans all the way,………………….

  48. @Achilles

    Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

    “What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”
     
    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    Reports of these cases in the mainstream media involving protected classes such as transgenders (or double protected classes such as black transgenders) are frustrating to read because you rarely are told the whole story, lest the omitted facts prompt readers to suspect a correlation between the protected class and damaging behavior.

    So what was this really about? Drugs? Or prostitution? Or both?

    Not necessarily. The article states only that she was the 14th trans woman killed this year. What about trans men?

  49. Atlanta is chock full of fruity/weird/gay and off-kilter black people, as Sailer himself noted in seeing how phenomenally well the movie “Moonlight” did in this region. Go to any of the malls that are on the MARTA line and you will see an endless number of them.

    The new skinnypants trend in hip hop fashion also doesn’t help, they all look like potential “downlow” material. “Moonlight” was (literally) half the blacks in my high school.

    A few years ago I had just bought a new car earlier in the day and was in the Midtown area of Atlanta eating at a restaurant, and a group of 4 black trannies starting fighting (literally) on the hood but moved on quickly.

  50. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Black trannies are still black and act like it although in this particular incarnation they’re more hysterical and downright crazy. Blacks don’t stop being black just because they have some other hats to wear. Chicago’s Boys Town went downhill and had an exodus of gays from there because of the influx of ghetto gays and tranny hookers who also beat and rob white gays coming home late from the bars. There’s a surprising number of gays and trannies in the ghetto that most people don’t even think or know about. Riding a bicycle through the north side of Chicago seven hours after the gay parade I thought things would be all clear. Instead there were giant mobs of ghetto gays and trannies thronging the streets, all drunk, cursing and brawling with fat black dykes being the loudest. There was a huge number of police on horses, bikes and other vehicles trying to engage in mob control. It looked like a volatile situation; any one police interaction gone wrong could have set things off. I thought I was looking at a movie. There were no television reports on that, just the usual promo propaganda on how great the parade was and showed video of the colorful, but harmless and non-threatening, participants.

  51. The dude who “threw the first brick” in the Stonewall riot, and is thus I guess the Rosa Parks of homosexuals, was a black drag queen named Marsha P. Johnson (actually Malcolm Michaels). Johnson was found floating in the Hudson River at the age of 46.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Tom, How sad, so few blacks can swim, but he managed to learn to float.
  52. @jim jones
    I remember when you couldn`t walk around Kings Cross in London without being asked for cigarettes by very tall tranny hookers. Sadly the area has been cleaned up now.

    Or Bois de Boulogne in Paris. I’m not sure what it’s like these days, but the tranny hookers there used to be all Brazilian, for some reason.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    In Porto (Portugal) last year we were surprised to see a fair few transvestite street prostitutes waiting for punters (a google tells me most of the 'girls' are Brazilian), what I can't understand is why there's much of a market for fake females.

    I know there's a market for everything, so I can see why Paris might have some, but Porto? It's not that big, why not real women?

  53. AM says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It’s really a shame our elite–whose personal lives are often downright Victorian–are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    Yeah, it’s hard to avoid that wealth elite can literally afford behaviors that will completely mess up the lives of people who have no money.

    But if the wealthy elite pushes “tolerance” as a high value, guess who doesn’t ever have to be a good role model or even pretend care about others?

  54. AM says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Sometimes, I do miss the old days.
     
    Don't worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You'll have nothing to miss again for eternity.

    Unless you're a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.

    Don’t worry. Hell is basically just one long observation of black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods. You’ll have nothing to miss again for eternity.

    LOL! This is a pretty good definition of Hell, except you’re deeply involved in who wins the fight.

    Unless you’re a Christian. In which case, you may suffer from black tranny nostalgia in between contemplations of the divine.

    Probably not suffering from nostalgia, if it all goes right. 😉 In any event, Christians have every opportunity to join in black transvestites in bikinis fighting over consumer goods.

  55. @Ed
    Transgenderism is a mental disorder and in general blacks are over represented in mental ailments in particular schizophrenia. So blacks being over represented among trannies is probably true.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4274585/

    If I recall, anti-psychotics reduce feeling of gender dysphoria as well.

  56. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Dennis Dale
    That video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzRCefGfX0&t=585s

    Emasculated men (e.g. harem eunuchs, or homosexual clergy, etc.,) have been the most manipulative and determined behind-the-scenes string pullers in all human history. Their decisions are usually awful for the overall welfare of the nation-state and its people. There’s no avoiding the latter conclusion once you’ve read enough history. Being petty, catty, selfish, vindictive, gleefully malicious, two-faced, and a nurser of grudges do not allow you to make good judgment calls regarding what’s best for other people. Extreme confusion over gender identity is a feature of borderline personality disorder, and borderlines are emotionally unstable. You do not let unstable people run anything unless you’re an idiot.

  57. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    This sounds similar to the psychology attributed by MRA to former carousel riders after they hit the wall.

    I prefer a spiritual explanation that sin can have terrible consequence even in this life. Licentiousness eats at a person’s soul.

  58. This funny black-musulman-pothead learned firsthand that dress to success will get you the biggest echo chambering laughs… even in the Choosiest Screening Room:

  59. Jernigan, who had not yet legally changed his name,

    Legally changed his name? Do people like that ever go and appear before a judge voluntarily??

  60. It’s not peak, until there are bands of trans fighting each other in the ruins of a giant sports stadium.

  61. @Sunbeam
    This is like one of those 1960's new wave science fiction stories about the future. You know it was supposed to be satire. It's like we are living in a John Brunner or Philip K. Dick novel.

    Last line of Stand on Zanzibar, where the AI Shalmaneser is approaching Stoner stage, while reading the news:

    “Christ, what an imagination I’ve got.”

  62. @Steve Sailer
    The photos suggest it is real.

    Anyway, it's not really uncommon for black transvestite hookers to get into brawls, either with the public or with each other. Back in the 1980s, my wife's friend A. had to take the bus to downtown Chicago from the Boystown neighborhood one Sunday morning at 4 am, and the neighborhood's 6'4" black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.

    the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.

    “Herm corner”, Steve. Let’s watch those possessive pronouns, ay?

    However, if we’re going to maunder a bit in the past, I misspent a year of my yute working on the DC Metro train control system. Union job, 3-month shift assignment seniority system, so I was working midnights for half of it. Two dedicated former Western Electric T-1 techs kept the entire MetroRail train system operational by fixing the rapidly-decaying electronics every night. The two senior techs I worked with, Bruce and Brian, zoomed around DC in a Metro van from midnight to around 3:30AM, doing PMS and replacing circuit boards. Then we headed for the most comfortable comm room on the rail system and slept until 7AM. Good pay, and if you could get enough sleep, enough time to work a second job — retire at 55 in mighty good financial shape.

    Thus, every morning we’re coming westbound on H Street before rush hour really got going. There was one of those 6’4″ trannies stationed at the corner of H and a cross-street. Depending on who was driving, either Bruce or Brian would hang out waist-high from the passenger-side window, and issue a broadside of screamed slurs, accusations, general insults of the traditional, er, homophobic nature, to an equally inventive stream of anti-honkey talk from the corner.

    An almost daily event greatly enjoyed by all participants. My natural naivete was shattered forever, as you might imagine.

    Well … that’s just a note in passing. Linh Dinh I’m not.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    We used to scream out the window
    "Ya hiding a wiener ?"
    , @Buffalo Joe
    John, when I was an apprentice I worked for a Mohawk foreman named Angus. One day he showed up on the job with a black eye and split lip. Seems that on his commute to work he would cut through Delaware Park and daily insult a fat guy jogging on the ring road. Angus popped his clutch and stalled. Fat guy apparently could fight.
  63. @Ed
    Transgenderism is a mental disorder and in general blacks are over represented in mental ailments in particular schizophrenia. So blacks being over represented among trannies is probably true.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4274585/

    Yes it’s true that blacks have a schizophrenia rate two or three times that of whites or Asians. But transgenderism is better classified as a birth defect not a mental disorder. There are several authoritative sources on the Web that explain this . Transgenderism is not a medical mystery like homosexuality. It is reasonably well understood.

    • Replies: @Ed
    Gender dysphoria has a medical billing code and has been traditionally diagnosed as a mental disorder.

    http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/F01-F99/F60-F69/F64-
    , @kihowi
    No it's not. Stop it. We aren't even remotely close to understanding the brain, let alone what "I feel like a woman inside" means on a physical level.
  64. @Rob McX
    Or Bois de Boulogne in Paris. I'm not sure what it's like these days, but the tranny hookers there used to be all Brazilian, for some reason.

    In Porto (Portugal) last year we were surprised to see a fair few transvestite street prostitutes waiting for punters (a google tells me most of the ‘girls’ are Brazilian), what I can’t understand is why there’s much of a market for fake females.

    I know there’s a market for everything, so I can see why Paris might have some, but Porto? It’s not that big, why not real women?

    • Replies: @Umberto
    Trans - sex for sale seems a bigger deal in Latin societies. Southern Europe has loads of Brazilians and Africans doing this; presumably vital; work.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Yet, apparently there is a fair number of men who don't think getting satisfaction from a trans or gay is adultery.
  65. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    Elite’s personal lives downright Victorian?

    So you’re sayin’ they’re all closeted LGBT? That was the “deal” in Victorian times; all this stuff went on, but it was kept discrete, except when it was not?

  66. But transgenderism is better classified as a birth defect not a mental disorder. There are several authoritative sources on the Web that explain this . Transgenderism is not a medical mystery like homosexuality. It is reasonably well understood.

    This board is best for apparently sincere satire.

  67. @al-Gharaniq
    The only take-away liberals and the MSM will get from this is "minority LGBTQ+ people are disproportionately targeted for murder," with the implied aggressors being white people. Cause hey, who cares about the facts anymore?

    Exactly, the Black Transwomen Inc. statement is in keeping with this. It’s pretty obvious that most of these people were killed in line with chaotic lifestyles but it allows the vague implication that whitey was to blame. Gangs of alt-right droogs.

    https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/83/Clock09.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130613032921

  68. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    I think it’s low intelligence. Dumb people can only deal with appearances because creating a model of what can’t be seen takes too many clock cycles. Which is why blacks buy so many Nikes.

    So while men of other races who realize they’re not very manly can hide it or integrate it into their own definition of masculinity, blacks can’t deal with that contradiction so they start wearing a dress and lisping.

  69. @Pat Boyle
    Yes it's true that blacks have a schizophrenia rate two or three times that of whites or Asians. But transgenderism is better classified as a birth defect not a mental disorder. There are several authoritative sources on the Web that explain this . Transgenderism is not a medical mystery like homosexuality. It is reasonably well understood.

    Gender dysphoria has a medical billing code and has been traditionally diagnosed as a mental disorder.

    http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/F01-F99/F60-F69/F64-

  70. Remember the black transgender prostitute that showed up on the doorstep in the Tom Cruise movie “Risky Business”? My friend commented that if that happened at his place, that he would get his shotgun and say “get off my porch, f**ker” when we saw that scene in the movie.

  71. Almost as funny as the bitter feud between rival midget KISS cover bands several years back.

  72. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    The elite don’t see these trends as problematic. How could they do anything about these trends now?

  73. @Laugh Track
    I'm still trying to determine whether this news piece, and its news sources, are genuine or small town Onion-esque spoofing. Half the accompanying articles don't help.

    I kind of hope it is genuine, as that would indicate that we are much closer to intersectional implosion than I dared hope.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    • Replies: @Ed
    Knowing nothing of this rumor since this is the first I'm hearing of it, I suspect the black football players aren't gay. What most likely is happening that they realize they can make some extra cash hustling gay men. Most are from
    poor backgrounds and college scholarships only go so far.
    , @penskefile

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools. I can see where it might be effective though, so I think I'll start spreading a version of it about Austin.
    , @Tony
    Funny that a place named after a Greek city would be gay.
  74. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    One of the things many early European explorers and missionaries in the Dark Continent noted was the tendency of many – perhaps most – black African kings and other male royalty and war leaders to be pederasts who also enjoyed raping male war captives.

    Shaka Zulu for one example, loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice.

    And he is easily the most esteemed native black African leader who opposed Europeans to contemporary blacks in America and Europe. Shaka Zulu is a great role model to blacks.

    Perhaps our Liberals will start to demand we replace all Confederate statues with statues of Shaka raping a nine year old boy while watching the immolation of 300 of his concubines.

    Black Lives Matter!

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    Shaka, When the statues fell.
    , @anonymous coward

    loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice
     
    That's just standard operating practice for any non-Christian society. Muslims today in 2017 do and believe in exactly the same, and they're nominally white.
  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT
    While watching a video of Andrew Ng talking about AI, I came across a Sailer moment. Ng is giving an example of a neural network that takes some information about a house and predicts its price. First, the size of the house and the number of bedrooms might indicate the family size the house fits. Second, the zipcode and average wealth of the neighborhood indicate … school quality.

    Nothing special, just about the use of ‘school quality’ for things that cannot be said. I saw it coming live. At 27 minutes:

    • Replies: @Altai
    I remember there being a famous dataset on US house prices that was used in a MOOC I was doing, the co-inventer of R and other things was very unfortunately an Afrikaner with a clear accent, he went through and listed all the headings of all the variables in the dataset, maybe he didn't know or forgot, but 'Percentage Black' was the next entry and he got away with an awkward 'and other variables...'.
  76. Violence among black Ts happens for the same reason as violence among black non-Ts.

    TNB, not WWT.

  77. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    You’re under selling Athens. It’s quite possibly the only place I’ve visited, outside of Williamsburg or the Bay Area, that one can reliably find black hipster gangs. Tranny gang is new, but it doesn’t shock me at all.

    Converged doesn’t quite describe it. Athens is a real twilight zone in the region. Arguably the most insane prog city with a population so small. I haven’t been by in several years so one can only assume it’s getting worse. That local paper and their other native periodicals make Jacobin and Salon look mainstream.

  78. @Achilles

    Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

    “What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”
     
    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    Reports of these cases in the mainstream media involving protected classes such as transgenders (or double protected classes such as black transgenders) are frustrating to read because you rarely are told the whole story, lest the omitted facts prompt readers to suspect a correlation between the protected class and damaging behavior.

    So what was this really about? Drugs? Or prostitution? Or both?

    The intersectionalists are always going on about rising violence against queer and trans people but are oddly silent on who is doing the killing and why.

    • Replies: @tsotha
    They're not silent about who and why, they're just loudly wrong.
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    About three weeks ago, a white male shot and killed three of his coworkers at a Weis grocery store in Pennsylvania. He had written publicly:

    “I’ve always hated black people. I f****ing hate people who aren’t white—Caucasian, whatever.
     
    Normally, if a white male murders three people in cold blood, and has been openly racist, it would be major headlines for months. But not in the case of Randy Stair, because he considered himself a woman:

    It’s just—I hated guys. I was never attracted to guys, which led me to realizing that I wasn’t gay. Which, I still had thoughts about that to this day, because I never had girlfriends or anything like that but I guess when it came down to it I felt like I was transgender or something, like a woman the whole time.”

    Spiritually, I’m a woman. I’m a female soul. But I had to live in a man’s body to do what I set out to do.
     

    So the news just gets buried.

    I don't know if the dead co-workers white non-white, but he spared women evidently. Just imagine the headlines if a man had shot three women because "I just hate women."

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/pennsylvania-market-shooter-identified-as-transgender-woman-who-hated-all-men/

  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Not tranny angle, but are there any hetero male black fans of last year’s Oscar winner,* “Black Bodies in Ye Pale Moonlight” (something like that)? In the old days, i.e. 70s, you could read blackety writers inveighing against the machinations of white media gays to homosexualize the black man; but now, high % of black critics are flamers. I assume black women love gay Brokeback slash fic sagas because white, brown, AZN chicks all partake of that too.

  80. @JohnnyD
    It's obviously Trump's fault...

    That goes without saying. The second culprit is the white-cis-male collective (possibly through the use of violence inducing brainwaves).

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    Obviously, white-cis gendered-males, who have been embolden by Trump's hate-speech, push these black tranies over the edge with their microaggressions! We need the resistance!
  81. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.

    “… but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?”

    Genetic load perhaps. Lots of mutations.

  82. @Pat Boyle
    Yes it's true that blacks have a schizophrenia rate two or three times that of whites or Asians. But transgenderism is better classified as a birth defect not a mental disorder. There are several authoritative sources on the Web that explain this . Transgenderism is not a medical mystery like homosexuality. It is reasonably well understood.

    No it’s not. Stop it. We aren’t even remotely close to understanding the brain, let alone what “I feel like a woman inside” means on a physical level.

  83. Elsewhere in that issue of Politico The Magazine– Co. Springs’ foray into autistic-libertarianism flops because “we’re hicks basically:”
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/30/colorado-springs-libertarian-experiment-america-215313

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    Thanks: that's a really interesting piece, and interestingly evenhanded.

    My father grew up in Colorado Springs in the 1930s and 40s, then moved back and lived there with my mother from maybe 1985 until five years ago. It's an utterly different place now to what it was when he was a boy, and even compared to when I'd visit my grandfather and step-grandmother at their idyllic house when I was a boy in the late 60s and 70s--vastly sprawling now, with the metropolitan area nearly meeting up with Denver's along the Front Range.

    Back in my grandfather's heyday, it was a monument to what America was then--still in many ways the Old, Weird America of yore, where even a man of comparatively limited means like my grandfather could create an amazing place out of nothing but land and a spectacular view. A lot of Ashcan-era artists spent time between there and Taos or Santa Fe and were friends with my grandparents, for example.

    Now it's tract housing, mostly, and a lot of theoretical Rugged Individualism. And I'm theoretically on board with that stuff; but as that article indicates, reality turns out to be more complicated.

    The only thing that keeps modern Colorado Springs from being merely a late-modern blight on the landscape is the landscape itself--plus some of the old stuff that's still around. My grandfather's house, for example: https://www.facebook.com/pages/High-Valley-Farm/182287865158726

    Anyway, thanks again for that.
  84. @Arclight
    The intersectionalists are always going on about rising violence against queer and trans people but are oddly silent on who is doing the killing and why.

    They’re not silent about who and why, they’re just loudly wrong.

    • Agree: Triumph104
  85. Ed says:
    @Jake
    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    Knowing nothing of this rumor since this is the first I’m hearing of it, I suspect the black football players aren’t gay. What most likely is happening that they realize they can make some extra cash hustling gay men. Most are from
    poor backgrounds and college scholarships only go so far.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    The dynamics of supply and demand are such that there's no cash to be had in being a rentboy, especially not for blacks.
    , @Jake
    And Ill bet you are certain that neither Arthur Ashe nor Magic Johnson got AIDs from gay sex.

    Are you at all familiar with how common the down-low is among 'macho' blacks?

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.

    Most of these college athletes who whine that they cannot live on the scholarship go to the beach at least once per year. Training tables provide them with better food than I could afford until I was at least 35.
  86. Peak current year (From Mr. “Because it’s 2015” no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/

    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous” says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    This is your country more than it is for others

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I’m sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.”

    So if your parents gift you your first car, a hand-me-down, a thief has more ownership of your car than you do. Turdie is truly the caricature of the modern Traitor class.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Altai, I am so sure that the long suffering Indigenous People of Canada were happy to hear the Man-child say that they are there by default.
    , @Anonymous
    Prime Minister Zoolander once again manages to make the usual suspects seem almost reasonable when they deploy these points without mangling them out of exuberance.

    Bill Kristol‏ @BillKristol
    Because these hard-working & grateful immigrants, & their kids, have often contributed more to America than the heirs of old & tired elites.

    Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson
    #Tucker: Why does America benefit from having tons of people from failing countries come here?
     

     
    , @Rob McX
    "Canadian by default" - what an insult to the people whose forebears were settling and building the country 400 years ago. They count for nothing compared to the Canadian-in-waiting sitting in his dung-lined hut in Africa filling out his visa application.
    , @Pericles

    And that, Trudeau added, goes twice for Quebec.

     

  87. That is funny!

  88. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT – WaPo has an article about plummeting birth rates.

    A country’s birthrate is among the most important measures of demographic health. The number needs to be within a certain range, called the “replacement level,” to keep a population stable so that it neither grows nor shrinks. If too low, there’s a danger that we wouldn’t be able to replace the aging workforce and have enough tax revenue to keep the economy stable. Countries such as France and Japan that have low birthrates have put pro-family policies into place to try to encourage couples to have babies. The flip side can also be a problem. Birthrates that are too high can strain resources such as clean water, food, shelter and social services, problems faced by India, where the fertility rate has fallen over the past few decades but still remains high.

    OK, so you have to walk a fine line between having too many kids which would grow the population, and having too few which would shrink it. In other words they are implying that your population should remain in a somewhat steady state.

    If this is the case then the USA, currently at 325 million, should remain at or around 325 million. Instead the US population is expected to grow to 350 million by mid century and possibly 400 million by 2100. And since this is not being driven by birthrates, it must be immigration that is responsible. Why are demographers keeping track of our birthrates to ensure our population remains stable, but totally ignoring immigration which insures our population will continue to grow?

    Further, the population of the USA in 1967 was 200 million. NumbersUSA has demonstrated that without mass immigration our population would have grown over the past 50 years to around 250 million with the people who inhabited the place in 1967. Instead our population is 325 million which is almost entirely due to immigration. Keep in mind 325 million puts us in 3rd place globally. But if our population was about 250-260 million instead, we would still be tied with Indonesia for 3rd place globally. So it’s not like we would be some kind of pipsqueak.

    Now if the goal is to keep a steady, stable population, wouldn’t it be correct to admit that the mass immigration of the past 50 years has been a failure? Rather than keeping our population steady, it increased it. Doesn’t this, to quote from the excerpted paragraph, “strain resources such as clean water, food, shelter and social services,…”?

    Finally, if the goal is to keep the population steady then we are forever going to have to keep a higher population. In 1967, keeping the population steady would have meant keeping it around 200 million. Today keeping the population steady means keeping it around 325 million. In the foreseeable future it will mean 350 and so on. Thus we will indeed “strain resources such as clean water, food, shelter and social services,…”

    PS. I suppose it is a positive that the MSM is admitting there is a policy reason to track population and that there is a danger to growing too much. But they still refuse to include immigration into this debate. In fact, doing Steve’s favorite CTRL-F for “immi…” in this article comes up with no finds.

  89. @YetAnotherAnon
    In Porto (Portugal) last year we were surprised to see a fair few transvestite street prostitutes waiting for punters (a google tells me most of the 'girls' are Brazilian), what I can't understand is why there's much of a market for fake females.

    I know there's a market for everything, so I can see why Paris might have some, but Porto? It's not that big, why not real women?

    Trans – sex for sale seems a bigger deal in Latin societies. Southern Europe has loads of Brazilians and Africans doing this; presumably vital; work.

    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    There are fruits rotting in the fields because these are important jobs the good men and women citizens of the nation just refuse to do...
  90. @Jake
    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools. I can see where it might be effective though, so I think I’ll start spreading a version of it about Austin.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can't forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay. This was 1980ish. Was Guadacanal Diary from Athens? Not great but fun.
    , @Geschrei

    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools.
     
    Agree on the "negative recruiting", but I dunno about the "made-up" part...

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4548813860_fb9bfc485b_o.jpg
  91. @anonymous coward

    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?
     
    Them working as prostitutes is. Outside of the comfortable rich American person reality-distortion bubble, trannies only exist for prostitution purposes. Good lord, why are (white) Americans so out of touch with the real world??

    Obviously all the participants in this story, and 99.99%+ of transgender underclass blacks are prostitutes. I had thought that goes without saying, although I’d alluded to it anyway (“no legitimate employment”).

    But as far as I can tell transgender prostitutes aren’t faking it at all: they really do want to live as women, make permanent surgical alterations to their bodies etc, and it’s just a relatively-convenient way for them to earn cash.

  92. A MtF was just convicted of killing 3 prostitutes in my city.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jun/29/jury-reaches-verdict-in-donna-perry-murder-trial/

    He killed them almost 30 years ago and then legally changed his name and sex, the detectives found lots of male DNA on the victims and at the crime scenes but missed finding the perp because he’s a she.

    The local judge thanked the convicted serial killer for her “dignity” during the trial.

  93. @anonymous coward

    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?
     
    Them working as prostitutes is. Outside of the comfortable rich American person reality-distortion bubble, trannies only exist for prostitution purposes. Good lord, why are (white) Americans so out of touch with the real world??

    This sounds right to me.

    An analogy is the polyamory of the highly educated vs. the reckless promiscuity of the lower classes. They share similarities, but it makes more sense to view them as categorically distinct. One is a conscious subversion of culture and tradition, while the other is old-fashioned “damn the consequences” animal lust.

    Likewise the transgenderism of the Wachowskis/Jenner vs. the trannyism of black prostitutes.

  94. @WR
    That goes without saying. The second culprit is the white-cis-male collective (possibly through the use of violence inducing brainwaves).

    Obviously, white-cis gendered-males, who have been embolden by Trump’s hate-speech, push these black tranies over the edge with their microaggressions! We need the resistance!

  95. @Ed
    Knowing nothing of this rumor since this is the first I'm hearing of it, I suspect the black football players aren't gay. What most likely is happening that they realize they can make some extra cash hustling gay men. Most are from
    poor backgrounds and college scholarships only go so far.

    The dynamics of supply and demand are such that there’s no cash to be had in being a rentboy, especially not for blacks.

  96. @John Jeremiah Smith

    the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.
     
    "Herm corner", Steve. Let's watch those possessive pronouns, ay?

    However, if we're going to maunder a bit in the past, I misspent a year of my yute working on the DC Metro train control system. Union job, 3-month shift assignment seniority system, so I was working midnights for half of it. Two dedicated former Western Electric T-1 techs kept the entire MetroRail train system operational by fixing the rapidly-decaying electronics every night. The two senior techs I worked with, Bruce and Brian, zoomed around DC in a Metro van from midnight to around 3:30AM, doing PMS and replacing circuit boards. Then we headed for the most comfortable comm room on the rail system and slept until 7AM. Good pay, and if you could get enough sleep, enough time to work a second job -- retire at 55 in mighty good financial shape.

    Thus, every morning we're coming westbound on H Street before rush hour really got going. There was one of those 6'4" trannies stationed at the corner of H and a cross-street. Depending on who was driving, either Bruce or Brian would hang out waist-high from the passenger-side window, and issue a broadside of screamed slurs, accusations, general insults of the traditional, er, homophobic nature, to an equally inventive stream of anti-honkey talk from the corner.

    An almost daily event greatly enjoyed by all participants. My natural naivete was shattered forever, as you might imagine.

    Well ... that's just a note in passing. Linh Dinh I'm not.

    We used to scream out the window
    “Ya hiding a wiener ?”

  97. OT, but there was just a mass shooting in a Bronx hospital by a former physician there.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    "Police described the suspect in a radio transmission as a tall, thin man in a blue shirt and a white lab coat." There seems to be something omitted from that description.
    , @Stan Adams
    A *vibrant* healer-turned-slayer, now an hero.

    Long live the multicult!
  98. @Anonymous
    OT
    While watching a video of Andrew Ng talking about AI, I came across a Sailer moment. Ng is giving an example of a neural network that takes some information about a house and predicts its price. First, the size of the house and the number of bedrooms might indicate the family size the house fits. Second, the zipcode and average wealth of the neighborhood indicate ... school quality.

    Nothing special, just about the use of 'school quality' for things that cannot be said. I saw it coming live. At 27 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21EiKfQYZXc

    I remember there being a famous dataset on US house prices that was used in a MOOC I was doing, the co-inventer of R and other things was very unfortunately an Afrikaner with a clear accent, he went through and listed all the headings of all the variables in the dataset, maybe he didn’t know or forgot, but ‘Percentage Black’ was the next entry and he got away with an awkward ‘and other variables…’.

    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    Heh, I think I took that class too. Trevor Hastie's Statistical Learning class on Coursera.
  99. @Saint Louis
    "Rayquann Deonte Jernigan, 17, who was known to friends by the chosen name of Ava Le’Ray Barrin"

    Because the name Rayquann was too stereotypically masculine?

    Sheeeiiittt!!!

  100. @Dave Pinsen
    OT, but there was just a mass shooting in a Bronx hospital by a former physician there.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/880885177207148544

    “Police described the suspect in a radio transmission as a tall, thin man in a blue shirt and a white lab coat.” There seems to be something omitted from that description.

  101. @snorlax
    I’m not sure if anyone’s actually crunched the numbers on this, but what is with the seemingly high rate of transgenderism among blacks, especially underclass (i.e. no college, no legitimate employment) blacks?

    Steve’s testosterone overexposure theory? A tactic by more effeminate gay blacks to attract their deeply-closeted masculine peers?

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    I’d also guess that our increasingly-polygamous culture at-large has a lot to do with the increasing prevalence of transgenderism. And I think this does fit with the Jenner, McCloskey, Wachowski etc cases.

    Think about Bruce Jenner. In his younger days he was swarmed with groupies — he must have had sex with thousands of women. Then suddenly he’s pushing 70 and he’s gone from sex symbol to punchline. He might still have groupies but it’s because he’s rich and famous, and not because they find him sexy, so it’s not the same anymore.

    It has to put one under enormous psychological strain to go from a cornucopia of sexual riches so great it was physically-impossible in the days before big cities and air travel, to something like your average middle-aged normalcy. (It’s jarring-enough for the average and normal — “mid-life crisis”).

    But… does “lesbian” Caitlyn have hot girl groupies? Is the previous Pope Catholic? Yeah, sure, they’re f*****d-up in the head. That’s already implied by the word “groupie.” In any case they’ve restored Jenner’s mental equilibrium. The human male sex drive is one powerful thing.


    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.

    Wow. I guess you learn something new every day. Everyone associates Thailand and “ladyboy” – a google and…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_Thailand

    Seems you may be on to something.

    There are way more loser males in today’s society vs the 1950s. The baby boom ended in 1964, roughly when the poz began. The contraceptive pill became an instant hit in 1962, but increased in popularity over the next few years.

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/a-brief-history-of-the-birth-control-pill/480/

    Net result is that women sleep recreationally with the male 8-10s in their twenties and themselves drift lower down the scale. A female 6 at 23 is likely a 4-5 at 30. It has to be frustrating for the lower tier men and the women who wake up in their 30s and realize they should have aimed lower and got commitment.

    I don’t think your explanation for Bruce Jenner holds though. Is there any evidence Jenner is attracting groupies?

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    I don't think Jenner is, but a cursory search seems to indicate Jazz (from I am Jazz) has quite the uh, fan club.
  102. @Altai
    Peak current year (From Mr. "Because it's 2015" no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/


    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous" says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    "This is your country more than it is for others"

     

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I'm sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.”

    So if your parents gift you your first car, a hand-me-down, a thief has more ownership of your car than you do. Turdie is truly the caricature of the modern Traitor class.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  103. @joeyjoejoe
    "My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto."

    I've actually wondered if this explains some part of homosexuality and effeminacy amongst males in general. My own utterly unsupported theory is that young boys compete for everything every moment they are alive. They talk over each other, they compete in sports, they compete in video games, they compete for attention from girls, they compete compete compete (note: this probably isn't particularly controversial. It may even be the standard description of male behavior). This doesn't mean they are always fighting, or always overtly aggressive towards each other: the competition ranges from overt (fight, football, insults) to covert (vie for alpha dominance in a singles bar, snide comments amongst groups of boys/men, etc).

    Some aren't very good at it. Many of those withdraw. They are the nerds of our culture. Others accept their status-they are the foolish buddy, the part of the 'gang' that isn't the leader (and again, I don't mean 'gang' in terms of a criminal group-it may be just a group fo 5 guys on a fishing trip, with one dominant and the other 4 not so), the offensive lineman to the running back and quarterback, etc.

    But some resent the dominance game, and resent their place in it (near the bottom) and go full Sampson-and embrace the anti-alpha side. Instead of competing for alpha status, they accept fully the anti-alpha status, and become Paul Lynde or Richard Simmons. Its a way of diffusing the conflict-not by accepting their role as beta male, and not by continuing to fight a fight they can't win (against the alpha male)-but instead go full effeminate, or 'sissy'. When an alpha male beats the strongest guy in the school (say, when the quarterback 'wins' against the offensive tackle), it means something. When an alpha male 'wins' and takes the prettiest girl to the prom, it means something (and when the alpha 8 year old dominates a kickball game, it means something). But when an alpha male dominates a Richard Simmons, it doesn't mean anything. The alpha hasn't gained anything he didn't have before, and Richard Simmons didn't lose anything he had before.

    Effeminacy may be a coping mechanism some choose to avoid losing the male dominance game.

    joe

    Who was the alpha male in the B-52s?
    I’m thinking Kate Pierson?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    She is a lesbian, so that would fit, since the biological males are (and were; at least one is dead) homosexuals, and, as Steve has thoroughly documented in his classic piece differentiating homosexual males and homosexual females, the latter almost invariably exhibit more masculine behaviour.

    Athens is a very wack-a-doo, place, by the way, even by the stabdards of collegiate towns. The first published thing I ever wrote was a letter to the editor of The Red & Black condemning so-called affirmative action. It was roundly savaged immediately thereafter, yet the many Negro ballplayers in my classes never said a word to me about it....
  104. @Alec Leamas
    My hunch is that the prevalence of black trannies (M to F) probably has something to do with the willingness of black men to screw anything that moves. The rumored love affair between Magic Johnson (heh) and Jermaine Stewart comes to mind. And I believe that Johnson's son is trending towards black tranny-dom.
    • Replies: @Triumph104
    Like Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas has a homosexual son. Thomas' son Zeke was raped at age 12 and again last year (?). He was drugged by some man he met on Grindr. Zeke seems practically giddy from the attack and current publicity and still thinks Grindr is a great service.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    In regards to Jake's comment on the University of Georgia, Herschel Walker has an effeminate son that has not officially "declared a major".

    https://youtu.be/Ufq-FdaZSBw?t=63
  105. My broker has an inside line on some pre-IPO shares in

    Black Transwomen Inc.

    All y’all suckas be buyin Apple and shit.

  106. @Dave Pinsen
    OT, but there was just a mass shooting in a Bronx hospital by a former physician there.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/880885177207148544

    A *vibrant* healer-turned-slayer, now an hero.

    Long live the multicult!

  107. @Achilles

    Several transgender organizations issued statements concerning the fatal shooting, including Black Transwomen Inc.

    “What saddens and infuriates us as an organization that seeks to represent and empower black trans women is that Ava was just 17 years old and hadn’t even had a chance to follow her dreams yet,” the statement said. “Ava has become not only the 14th trans woman murdered in the U.S. in 2017, she unfortunately is now the youngest one killed this year. She is also the 12th African American trans person killed this year.”
     
    So 86% of murdered trannies in the US this year were black?

    Reports of these cases in the mainstream media involving protected classes such as transgenders (or double protected classes such as black transgenders) are frustrating to read because you rarely are told the whole story, lest the omitted facts prompt readers to suspect a correlation between the protected class and damaging behavior.

    So what was this really about? Drugs? Or prostitution? Or both?

    Perhaps it’s the “Danny Bonaduce” effect.
    Trannies present selves as women hookers. All is well til the John discovers the truth. Then it’s clobberin’ time.

  108. Yet another case of vicious societal [what-so-effing-ever]phobia. [advocacy org of choice] needs grants, funding, and taxes to, ugh, fight it.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    And, as always, an end to heteronormative, cisgendered, patriarchal, male, white supremacy privilege, to usher in the next 12 millennia of social utopia.
  109. @Anonymous
    Elsewhere in that issue of Politico The Magazine-- Co. Springs' foray into autistic-libertarianism flops because "we're hicks basically:"
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/30/colorado-springs-libertarian-experiment-america-215313

    Thanks: that’s a really interesting piece, and interestingly evenhanded.

    My father grew up in Colorado Springs in the 1930s and 40s, then moved back and lived there with my mother from maybe 1985 until five years ago. It’s an utterly different place now to what it was when he was a boy, and even compared to when I’d visit my grandfather and step-grandmother at their idyllic house when I was a boy in the late 60s and 70s–vastly sprawling now, with the metropolitan area nearly meeting up with Denver’s along the Front Range.

    Back in my grandfather’s heyday, it was a monument to what America was then–still in many ways the Old, Weird America of yore, where even a man of comparatively limited means like my grandfather could create an amazing place out of nothing but land and a spectacular view. A lot of Ashcan-era artists spent time between there and Taos or Santa Fe and were friends with my grandparents, for example.

    Now it’s tract housing, mostly, and a lot of theoretical Rugged Individualism. And I’m theoretically on board with that stuff; but as that article indicates, reality turns out to be more complicated.

    The only thing that keeps modern Colorado Springs from being merely a late-modern blight on the landscape is the landscape itself–plus some of the old stuff that’s still around. My grandfather’s house, for example: https://www.facebook.com/pages/High-Valley-Farm/182287865158726

    Anyway, thanks again for that.

  110. @Triumph104
    Wikipedia has a list of killed transgendered people around the world.

    For the 26 killed in the United States in 2016, 17 were black, 3 "of color", 3 Hispanic/Latina, 2 white, and 1 unknown.

    One of the whites was mentally ill and killed by police doing a wellness check. The unknown person's family appears to be white or Native American. (LINK)

    Most of the deaths are the result of chaotic lives, killed by friends, domestic partners, sex partners, and arch rivals. The "unknown race" was homeless and poured bottles of urine in the tent of rivals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people#United_States_3

    One of the whites was mentally ill and killed by police doing a wellness check.

    They were all mentally ill.

    • Agree: slumber_j
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    To observe that a so-called transexual is mentally ill is to observe that water is wet.
  111. @theo the kraut
    Yet another case of vicious societal [what-so-effing-ever]phobia. [advocacy org of choice] needs grants, funding, and taxes to, ugh, fight it.

    And, as always, an end to heteronormative, cisgendered, patriarchal, male, white supremacy privilege, to usher in the next 12 millennia of social utopia.

  112. I blame the B-52s.

    • Replies: @Jake
    The B-52s started nothing in Athens, including openly gay bands that were the most popular in town. That's the reason many people assumed everybody in REM was gay.
  113. Steve, anything to say about the 10 state attorneys general suing Trump over his failure to end DACA?

    Strikes me as a pretty interesting lawsuit. Most lawsuits against the government are about power – you don’t have the authority to pass this law, etc. This lawsuit doesn’t just challenge the president on his authority but on his *integrity* and his willingness to follow through with perhaps the principal promise of his campaign.

    It also would appear to give Trump some leverage, if that’s what he needs. I can see Trump continuing the DACA program in order to buy support for other eenforcement priorities. Trump can now say he has little choice but to end DACA unless he gets support for a wall, more ICE officers, etc.

  114. @Anonymous
    I noticed that when the National Geographic made up its gender-bending cover (http://press.nationalgeographic.com/files/2016/12/CV-0117_newsstand.jpg) it made sure the only non-oddity was an unemasculated black male.

    Anonymous, just picked up that issue off the free desk at our library. There is a most haunting photograph of a young Indonesian girl, writhing in pain,while being restrained on a table top as a woman performs FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) on her. The room is filled with women performing the procedure on multiple girls in a mass ceremony. Where are the feminists who claim that a return to coat hanger abortions is on America’s horizon? Of course, this would be a taboo cultural imposition if the feminists protested this barbaric act.

    • Replies: @Jake
    Can't offend the sacred cow Moslems any more than you can the sacred cow blacks.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, which chapter of The Handmaid's Tail had the cutting season? I forget...

    I've wondered if the fact that it's the women rather than the men that impose FGM makes it more likely or less likely for feminists to address it. No matter, Muslims are already so toxic to Western civilization out of all proportion to their numbers, and needing professionals to make excuses for them as well as captain-save-a-thug ministrations (two sides of the same coin), they're the feminists' favorite pets.

    , @Kyle McKenna
    Our self-styled cultural 'elite' have to defend FGM at all costs, lest any light be shed upon the similar practice of male circumcision, which my study of Torah and Talmud teaches me is integral and indispensable to their faith.
  115. @TWS
    Chinese and Tibetans play football in Canada?

    TWS, I think he means soccer. Canadians don’t even play football in Canada, unless you consider CFL to be football.

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    Joe, they haven't played football in Buffalo since 1999.
  116. @Tom Scarlett
    The dude who "threw the first brick" in the Stonewall riot, and is thus I guess the Rosa Parks of homosexuals, was a black drag queen named Marsha P. Johnson (actually Malcolm Michaels). Johnson was found floating in the Hudson River at the age of 46.

    Tom, How sad, so few blacks can swim, but he managed to learn to float.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  117. @John Jeremiah Smith

    the neighborhood’s 6’4″ black tranny streetwalker started screaming at her to get off his corner.
     
    "Herm corner", Steve. Let's watch those possessive pronouns, ay?

    However, if we're going to maunder a bit in the past, I misspent a year of my yute working on the DC Metro train control system. Union job, 3-month shift assignment seniority system, so I was working midnights for half of it. Two dedicated former Western Electric T-1 techs kept the entire MetroRail train system operational by fixing the rapidly-decaying electronics every night. The two senior techs I worked with, Bruce and Brian, zoomed around DC in a Metro van from midnight to around 3:30AM, doing PMS and replacing circuit boards. Then we headed for the most comfortable comm room on the rail system and slept until 7AM. Good pay, and if you could get enough sleep, enough time to work a second job -- retire at 55 in mighty good financial shape.

    Thus, every morning we're coming westbound on H Street before rush hour really got going. There was one of those 6'4" trannies stationed at the corner of H and a cross-street. Depending on who was driving, either Bruce or Brian would hang out waist-high from the passenger-side window, and issue a broadside of screamed slurs, accusations, general insults of the traditional, er, homophobic nature, to an equally inventive stream of anti-honkey talk from the corner.

    An almost daily event greatly enjoyed by all participants. My natural naivete was shattered forever, as you might imagine.

    Well ... that's just a note in passing. Linh Dinh I'm not.

    John, when I was an apprentice I worked for a Mohawk foreman named Angus. One day he showed up on the job with a black eye and split lip. Seems that on his commute to work he would cut through Delaware Park and daily insult a fat guy jogging on the ring road. Angus popped his clutch and stalled. Fat guy apparently could fight.

    • LOL: Jack Hanson
  118. @YetAnotherAnon
    In Porto (Portugal) last year we were surprised to see a fair few transvestite street prostitutes waiting for punters (a google tells me most of the 'girls' are Brazilian), what I can't understand is why there's much of a market for fake females.

    I know there's a market for everything, so I can see why Paris might have some, but Porto? It's not that big, why not real women?

    Yet, apparently there is a fair number of men who don’t think getting satisfaction from a trans or gay is adultery.

  119. @Ed
    Knowing nothing of this rumor since this is the first I'm hearing of it, I suspect the black football players aren't gay. What most likely is happening that they realize they can make some extra cash hustling gay men. Most are from
    poor backgrounds and college scholarships only go so far.

    And Ill bet you are certain that neither Arthur Ashe nor Magic Johnson got AIDs from gay sex.

    Are you at all familiar with how common the down-low is among ‘macho’ blacks?

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.

    Most of these college athletes who whine that they cannot live on the scholarship go to the beach at least once per year. Training tables provide them with better food than I could afford until I was at least 35.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.
     
    u mad bro?
    , @FPD72
    I'm pretty sure that Ashe got it from blood transfusions associated with his heart surgery. I've met a reliable man who knew him and that was his take on the matter.
  120. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, just picked up that issue off the free desk at our library. There is a most haunting photograph of a young Indonesian girl, writhing in pain,while being restrained on a table top as a woman performs FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) on her. The room is filled with women performing the procedure on multiple girls in a mass ceremony. Where are the feminists who claim that a return to coat hanger abortions is on America's horizon? Of course, this would be a taboo cultural imposition if the feminists protested this barbaric act.

    Can’t offend the sacred cow Moslems any more than you can the sacred cow blacks.

  121. @Olorin
    I blame the B-52s.

    The B-52s started nothing in Athens, including openly gay bands that were the most popular in town. That’s the reason many people assumed everybody in REM was gay.

  122. @Altai
    Peak current year (From Mr. "Because it's 2015" no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/


    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous" says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    "This is your country more than it is for others"

     

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I'm sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    Altai, I am so sure that the long suffering Indigenous People of Canada were happy to hear the Man-child say that they are there by default.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    But it all works out perfectly. That he can't celebrate Canada as much as the immigrants can means the indigenous can't celebrate it at all:

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he understands why many indigenous people in Canada won’t be celebrating Canada’s 150th birthday, and he wants them treated with respect and understanding
     
    He's so empathetic, oh my gosh.
  123. Steve, as Scott Adams says, the more important problem is President Trump’s tweet about Morning Joe:

    https://www.pscp.tv/ScottAdamsSays/1ZkJzyXQXgoGv

    After all, it could destroy the economy and cause runaway global warming!

  124. @Anonym

    My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto. If you look at polygamist societies past and present, you basically always see relatively high rates and acceptance of male-to-female transgenderism.


    Wow. I guess you learn something new every day. Everyone associates Thailand and "ladyboy" - a google and...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_Thailand

    Seems you may be on to something.

    There are way more loser males in today's society vs the 1950s. The baby boom ended in 1964, roughly when the poz began. The contraceptive pill became an instant hit in 1962, but increased in popularity over the next few years.

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/a-brief-history-of-the-birth-control-pill/480/

    Net result is that women sleep recreationally with the male 8-10s in their twenties and themselves drift lower down the scale. A female 6 at 23 is likely a 4-5 at 30. It has to be frustrating for the lower tier men and the women who wake up in their 30s and realize they should have aimed lower and got commitment.

    I don't think your explanation for Bruce Jenner holds though. Is there any evidence Jenner is attracting groupies?

    I don’t think Jenner is, but a cursory search seems to indicate Jazz (from I am Jazz) has quite the uh, fan club.

  125. @penskefile

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools. I can see where it might be effective though, so I think I'll start spreading a version of it about Austin.

    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can’t forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay. This was 1980ish. Was Guadacanal Diary from Athens? Not great but fun.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can’t forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay.
     
    Actually, only the blonde, Cindy Wilson, is straight. Kate Pierson is openly lesbian. She has been "out" for quite some time, but I don't think she was during the band's peak years of the late 80's.
    , @Autochthon
    Kate Pierson is a lesbian; she runs a bed-and-breakfast with her so-called wife in New York nowadays.
    , @Brutusale
    I met the "normal" guys (no Stipe) from REM when they took the time to shoot the breeze with people who worked in the same building as the radio station they were visiting to promote a show in Boston the next day. They were heading out to play 18 at a local private course that a wealthy fan had got them on. Even in the early 90s, I got the impression that Stipe wasn't exactly well-liked by the rest of them.
  126. @Umberto
    Trans - sex for sale seems a bigger deal in Latin societies. Southern Europe has loads of Brazilians and Africans doing this; presumably vital; work.

    There are fruits rotting in the fields because these are important jobs the good men and women citizens of the nation just refuse to do…

    • LOL: Kyle McKenna
  127. Are there any iSteve folks in Atlanta or thereabouts? My brother in law has to move there for work and needs a place to live. Problem:. He is really christian and believes in the equality of man. Where can I talk him into living so he son does not spend his entire school days in fights?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Absent dramatic change (entirely possible, as long as it's been since I was in the area...), your friend should be okay (though impoverished, for as with any urban area, the only safe places now are the toni ones) in northern Cobb County, Roswell, or perhaps Alpharetta. Atlanta itself (and, really, any place witin the permimeter of I-285) is a war-zone. (Inside the perimeter and outside the perimeter – "ITP" and "OTP" as one will hear – are starkly different.)

    Notwithstanding this advice, if the guy is as suicidal and traitorous to civilisation as you make him out to be, my own preference is that you gush incessantly to him about how wonderful College Park is....
    , @Camlost
    Milton or Southern Forsyth County.
    , @Gomer
    "He is really christian and believes in the equality of man."

    Send him to the Ethiopian Multicultural Republic of Gwinnett.

    http://www.cbs46.com/story/34842413/gwinnett-county-man-deported-after-female-genital-mutilation-sentence

    A few years in paradise and he might re-think that equality of man nonsense.
  128. @Altai
    I remember there being a famous dataset on US house prices that was used in a MOOC I was doing, the co-inventer of R and other things was very unfortunately an Afrikaner with a clear accent, he went through and listed all the headings of all the variables in the dataset, maybe he didn't know or forgot, but 'Percentage Black' was the next entry and he got away with an awkward 'and other variables...'.

    Heh, I think I took that class too. Trevor Hastie’s Statistical Learning class on Coursera.

  129. @Hodag
    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can't forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay. This was 1980ish. Was Guadacanal Diary from Athens? Not great but fun.

    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can’t forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay.

    Actually, only the blonde, Cindy Wilson, is straight. Kate Pierson is openly lesbian. She has been “out” for quite some time, but I don’t think she was during the band’s peak years of the late 80’s.

  130. @Jake
    And Ill bet you are certain that neither Arthur Ashe nor Magic Johnson got AIDs from gay sex.

    Are you at all familiar with how common the down-low is among 'macho' blacks?

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.

    Most of these college athletes who whine that they cannot live on the scholarship go to the beach at least once per year. Training tables provide them with better food than I could afford until I was at least 35.

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.

    u mad bro?

  131. @SteveRogers42
    I 'member...

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/08/17/billboard-of-magic-johnson-and-isiah-thomas-kissing-appears-in-l-a-photo/

    Like Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas has a homosexual son. Thomas’ son Zeke was raped at age 12 and again last year (?). He was drugged by some man he met on Grindr. Zeke seems practically giddy from the attack and current publicity and still thinks Grindr is a great service.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    In regards to Jake’s comment on the University of Georgia, Herschel Walker has an effeminate son that has not officially “declared a major”.

    • Replies: @Ed
    Never heard of him so I googled Zeke Thomas and this is from the 2nd hit.
    http://www.towleroad.com/2017/04/zeke-thomas/

    “My ass was destroyed. Destroyed. I’m bleeding,” Thomas recalls. “And I’m just like — terrified. I can’t move. I didn’t move from my apartment for two days. I didn’t move. I didn’t talk to anybody. I froze.” When he went to find the guy on Grindr, he either had blocked him or removed himself from
     
    I'd be mortified if my adult son said for public consumption that his "ass was destroyed". This goes beyond sexuality but having some decency and keeping sensitive matters to yourself.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Was unaware of both these indicators of societal decay. Always liked the "Herschel Walker story". Can only imagine what the poor guy is going through now.
  132. @Arclight
    The intersectionalists are always going on about rising violence against queer and trans people but are oddly silent on who is doing the killing and why.

    About three weeks ago, a white male shot and killed three of his coworkers at a Weis grocery store in Pennsylvania. He had written publicly:

    “I’ve always hated black people. I f****ing hate people who aren’t white—Caucasian, whatever.

    Normally, if a white male murders three people in cold blood, and has been openly racist, it would be major headlines for months. But not in the case of Randy Stair, because he considered himself a woman:

    It’s just—I hated guys. I was never attracted to guys, which led me to realizing that I wasn’t gay. Which, I still had thoughts about that to this day, because I never had girlfriends or anything like that but I guess when it came down to it I felt like I was transgender or something, like a woman the whole time.”

    Spiritually, I’m a woman. I’m a female soul. But I had to live in a man’s body to do what I set out to do.

    So the news just gets buried.

    I don’t know if the dead co-workers white non-white, but he spared women evidently. Just imagine the headlines if a man had shot three women because “I just hate women.”

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/pennsylvania-market-shooter-identified-as-transgender-woman-who-hated-all-men/

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    There is another piece of heresy from the crazy man-woman:

    "And I just was so happy to know that I wasn’t gay. You’re only gay if you’re attracted to guys, which I wasn’t, so that made me very happy because I fucking hate gay people except—an exception would be Freddie Mercury from Queen, the only exception."
  133. @Cloudbuster
    One of the whites was mentally ill and killed by police doing a wellness check.

    They were all mentally ill.

    To observe that a so-called transexual is mentally ill is to observe that water is wet.

  134. @Jake
    One of the things many early European explorers and missionaries in the Dark Continent noted was the tendency of many - perhaps most - black African kings and other male royalty and war leaders to be pederasts who also enjoyed raping male war captives.

    Shaka Zulu for one example, loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice.

    And he is easily the most esteemed native black African leader who opposed Europeans to contemporary blacks in America and Europe. Shaka Zulu is a great role model to blacks.

    Perhaps our Liberals will start to demand we replace all Confederate statues with statues of Shaka raping a nine year old boy while watching the immolation of 300 of his concubines.

    Black Lives Matter!

    Shaka, When the statues fell.

  135. @Kyle McKenna
    Who was the alpha male in the B-52s?
    I'm thinking Kate Pierson?

    She is a lesbian, so that would fit, since the biological males are (and were; at least one is dead) homosexuals, and, as Steve has thoroughly documented in his classic piece differentiating homosexual males and homosexual females, the latter almost invariably exhibit more masculine behaviour.

    Athens is a very wack-a-doo, place, by the way, even by the stabdards of collegiate towns. The first published thing I ever wrote was a letter to the editor of The Red & Black condemning so-called affirmative action. It was roundly savaged immediately thereafter, yet the many Negro ballplayers in my classes never said a word to me about it….

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    GSomehow I doubt that most of the negro ballplayers in your classes spent too much time reading letters to the editor. It was a less 'woke' time then and I doubt that they figured a letters column would have much bearing on their lives.

    Also, many of them probably didn't read very well. If at all.

  136. @Hodag
    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can't forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay. This was 1980ish. Was Guadacanal Diary from Athens? Not great but fun.

    Kate Pierson is a lesbian; she runs a bed-and-breakfast with her so-called wife in New York nowadays.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    A couple years ago she recorded "Mister, Sister", which she hoped would become a "trans anthem."

    But trannies were not amused, and let her know that she and her song are filled with hate.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-cooper-holland/an-open-letter-to-kate-pierson_b_6279128.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices
  137. @Hodag
    Are there any iSteve folks in Atlanta or thereabouts? My brother in law has to move there for work and needs a place to live. Problem:. He is really christian and believes in the equality of man. Where can I talk him into living so he son does not spend his entire school days in fights?

    Absent dramatic change (entirely possible, as long as it’s been since I was in the area…), your friend should be okay (though impoverished, for as with any urban area, the only safe places now are the toni ones) in northern Cobb County, Roswell, or perhaps Alpharetta. Atlanta itself (and, really, any place witin the permimeter of I-285) is a war-zone. (Inside the perimeter and outside the perimeter – “ITP” and “OTP” as one will hear – are starkly different.)

    Notwithstanding this advice, if the guy is as suicidal and traitorous to civilisation as you make him out to be, my own preference is that you gush incessantly to him about how wonderful College Park is….

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Wow. I didn't even know there was a place in Atlanta called College Park. Looked it up. Now the ghetto-ish clusterF that is ATL International Airport begins to make sense.
  138. @Autochthon
    Kate Pierson is a lesbian; she runs a bed-and-breakfast with her so-called wife in New York nowadays.

    A couple years ago she recorded “Mister, Sister”, which she hoped would become a “trans anthem.”

    But trannies were not amused, and let her know that she and her song are filled with hate.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-cooper-holland/an-open-letter-to-kate-pierson_b_6279128.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices

  139. @Jake
    One of the things many early European explorers and missionaries in the Dark Continent noted was the tendency of many - perhaps most - black African kings and other male royalty and war leaders to be pederasts who also enjoyed raping male war captives.

    Shaka Zulu for one example, loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice.

    And he is easily the most esteemed native black African leader who opposed Europeans to contemporary blacks in America and Europe. Shaka Zulu is a great role model to blacks.

    Perhaps our Liberals will start to demand we replace all Confederate statues with statues of Shaka raping a nine year old boy while watching the immolation of 300 of his concubines.

    Black Lives Matter!

    loved sodomizing boys and captured men more than he loved vaginal intercourse. He also believed in large public torture and human sacrifice

    That’s just standard operating practice for any non-Christian society. Muslims today in 2017 do and believe in exactly the same, and they’re nominally white.

  140. Ed says:
    @Triumph104
    Like Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas has a homosexual son. Thomas' son Zeke was raped at age 12 and again last year (?). He was drugged by some man he met on Grindr. Zeke seems practically giddy from the attack and current publicity and still thinks Grindr is a great service.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    In regards to Jake's comment on the University of Georgia, Herschel Walker has an effeminate son that has not officially "declared a major".

    https://youtu.be/Ufq-FdaZSBw?t=63

    Never heard of him so I googled Zeke Thomas and this is from the 2nd hit.
    http://www.towleroad.com/2017/04/zeke-thomas/

    “My ass was destroyed. Destroyed. I’m bleeding,” Thomas recalls. “And I’m just like — terrified. I can’t move. I didn’t move from my apartment for two days. I didn’t move. I didn’t talk to anybody. I froze.” When he went to find the guy on Grindr, he either had blocked him or removed himself from

    I’d be mortified if my adult son said for public consumption that his “ass was destroyed”. This goes beyond sexuality but having some decency and keeping sensitive matters to yourself.

  141. I was threatened by a black tranny once, but he was 6’2″ tops.

  142. @Autochthon
    Absent dramatic change (entirely possible, as long as it's been since I was in the area...), your friend should be okay (though impoverished, for as with any urban area, the only safe places now are the toni ones) in northern Cobb County, Roswell, or perhaps Alpharetta. Atlanta itself (and, really, any place witin the permimeter of I-285) is a war-zone. (Inside the perimeter and outside the perimeter – "ITP" and "OTP" as one will hear – are starkly different.)

    Notwithstanding this advice, if the guy is as suicidal and traitorous to civilisation as you make him out to be, my own preference is that you gush incessantly to him about how wonderful College Park is....

    Wow. I didn’t even know there was a place in Atlanta called College Park. Looked it up. Now the ghetto-ish clusterF that is ATL International Airport begins to make sense.

  143. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, just picked up that issue off the free desk at our library. There is a most haunting photograph of a young Indonesian girl, writhing in pain,while being restrained on a table top as a woman performs FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) on her. The room is filled with women performing the procedure on multiple girls in a mass ceremony. Where are the feminists who claim that a return to coat hanger abortions is on America's horizon? Of course, this would be a taboo cultural imposition if the feminists protested this barbaric act.

    Yes, which chapter of The Handmaid’s Tail had the cutting season? I forget…

    I’ve wondered if the fact that it’s the women rather than the men that impose FGM makes it more likely or less likely for feminists to address it. No matter, Muslims are already so toxic to Western civilization out of all proportion to their numbers, and needing professionals to make excuses for them as well as captain-save-a-thug ministrations (two sides of the same coin), they’re the feminists’ favorite pets.

  144. Psychiatrist Scott Alexander of Slate Star Codex says: ” … the truth is that transgender people have higher rates of every mental illness, to the point where it may just be some general factor. I think I’m justified in focusing on these two results because transgender people’s higher rates of depression and anxiety are probably just related to being transgender being depressing and anxiety-provoking in this society. But schizophrenia and autism are 80+% genetic, and so harder to explain away like that. Still, somebody could question the relevance of worrying about these two conditions in particular.”

  145. In the early-mid-90’s, there was a Carl’s Junior on Santa Monica in Hollywood that was the site of knock-down, drag-out, wig-pulling tranny fights seven nights a week…

  146. @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    About three weeks ago, a white male shot and killed three of his coworkers at a Weis grocery store in Pennsylvania. He had written publicly:

    “I’ve always hated black people. I f****ing hate people who aren’t white—Caucasian, whatever.
     
    Normally, if a white male murders three people in cold blood, and has been openly racist, it would be major headlines for months. But not in the case of Randy Stair, because he considered himself a woman:

    It’s just—I hated guys. I was never attracted to guys, which led me to realizing that I wasn’t gay. Which, I still had thoughts about that to this day, because I never had girlfriends or anything like that but I guess when it came down to it I felt like I was transgender or something, like a woman the whole time.”

    Spiritually, I’m a woman. I’m a female soul. But I had to live in a man’s body to do what I set out to do.
     

    So the news just gets buried.

    I don't know if the dead co-workers white non-white, but he spared women evidently. Just imagine the headlines if a man had shot three women because "I just hate women."

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/pennsylvania-market-shooter-identified-as-transgender-woman-who-hated-all-men/

    There is another piece of heresy from the crazy man-woman:

    “And I just was so happy to know that I wasn’t gay. You’re only gay if you’re attracted to guys, which I wasn’t, so that made me very happy because I fucking hate gay people except—an exception would be Freddie Mercury from Queen, the only exception.”

  147. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Peak current year (From Mr. "Because it's 2015" no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/


    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous" says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    "This is your country more than it is for others"

     

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I'm sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    Prime Minister Zoolander once again manages to make the usual suspects seem almost reasonable when they deploy these points without mangling them out of exuberance.

    Bill Kristol‏ @BillKristol
    Because these hard-working & grateful immigrants, & their kids, have often contributed more to America than the heirs of old & tired elites.

    Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson
    #Tucker: Why does America benefit from having tons of people from failing countries come here?

  148. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Altai, I am so sure that the long suffering Indigenous People of Canada were happy to hear the Man-child say that they are there by default.

    But it all works out perfectly. That he can’t celebrate Canada as much as the immigrants can means the indigenous can’t celebrate it at all:

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he understands why many indigenous people in Canada won’t be celebrating Canada’s 150th birthday, and he wants them treated with respect and understanding

    He’s so empathetic, oh my gosh.

  149. @Buffalo Joe
    TWS, I think he means soccer. Canadians don't even play football in Canada, unless you consider CFL to be football.

    Joe, they haven’t played football in Buffalo since 1999.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    AC, Touche my friend, but in truth a lot of Div I colleges teams, Alabama, Ohio State, Auburn, Texas, etc. , would easily beat CFL teams.....and probably the Bills.
    , @Brutusale
    Just remember that the best player on the average CFL team would be a benchwarmer in the NFL. Even the Bills. Which is why he's in the CFL in the first place.

    You used to be able to comfort your hoser soul by mentioning the NHL and American players being the spear carriers, but that's all gone now.
  150. @Jake
    And Ill bet you are certain that neither Arthur Ashe nor Magic Johnson got AIDs from gay sex.

    Are you at all familiar with how common the down-low is among 'macho' blacks?

    And if you are a man who gets get paid to sexually service men, you are a whore, a gay whore.

    Most of these college athletes who whine that they cannot live on the scholarship go to the beach at least once per year. Training tables provide them with better food than I could afford until I was at least 35.

    I’m pretty sure that Ashe got it from blood transfusions associated with his heart surgery. I’ve met a reliable man who knew him and that was his take on the matter.

  151. @Altai
    Peak current year (From Mr. "Because it's 2015" no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/


    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous" says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    "This is your country more than it is for others"

     

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I'm sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    “Canadian by default” – what an insult to the people whose forebears were settling and building the country 400 years ago. They count for nothing compared to the Canadian-in-waiting sitting in his dung-lined hut in Africa filling out his visa application.

  152. @jim jones
    I remember when you couldn`t walk around Kings Cross in London without being asked for cigarettes by very tall tranny hookers. Sadly the area has been cleaned up now.

    Unforgettable. Sadly, never gathered the courage to take a picture.

  153. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:
    @Autochthon
    She is a lesbian, so that would fit, since the biological males are (and were; at least one is dead) homosexuals, and, as Steve has thoroughly documented in his classic piece differentiating homosexual males and homosexual females, the latter almost invariably exhibit more masculine behaviour.

    Athens is a very wack-a-doo, place, by the way, even by the stabdards of collegiate towns. The first published thing I ever wrote was a letter to the editor of The Red & Black condemning so-called affirmative action. It was roundly savaged immediately thereafter, yet the many Negro ballplayers in my classes never said a word to me about it....

    GSomehow I doubt that most of the negro ballplayers in your classes spent too much time reading letters to the editor. It was a less ‘woke’ time then and I doubt that they figured a letters column would have much bearing on their lives.

    Also, many of them probably didn’t read very well. If at all.

  154. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, just picked up that issue off the free desk at our library. There is a most haunting photograph of a young Indonesian girl, writhing in pain,while being restrained on a table top as a woman performs FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) on her. The room is filled with women performing the procedure on multiple girls in a mass ceremony. Where are the feminists who claim that a return to coat hanger abortions is on America's horizon? Of course, this would be a taboo cultural imposition if the feminists protested this barbaric act.

    Our self-styled cultural ‘elite’ have to defend FGM at all costs, lest any light be shed upon the similar practice of male circumcision, which my study of Torah and Talmud teaches me is integral and indispensable to their faith.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Mika, not to argue, but the foreskin is not an essential part of a man's penis. I would argue that a clitoris is an important part of a woman's genitalia.
  155. @Hodag
    Are there any iSteve folks in Atlanta or thereabouts? My brother in law has to move there for work and needs a place to live. Problem:. He is really christian and believes in the equality of man. Where can I talk him into living so he son does not spend his entire school days in fights?

    Milton or Southern Forsyth County.

  156. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    To my observation, there is a concerted effort in the popular culture to depict (mold?) black sexuality as bisexual or otherwise "fluid," or maybe it's always been that way.

    Blacks are the canaries in the coal mine for social trends. It's really a shame our elite--whose personal lives are often downright Victorian--are so reckless about preaching toleration of deviancy to people without enough money or foresight to avoid trouble.

    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    This is exactly right about Athens. They’ve got several housing projects, plus a lot of low-rent apartment complexes that are somewhat dense. All you have to do is read the Athens newspaper to see how many fresh-faced white college students get mugged by the usual suspects when stumbling back home from the downtown bar scene. They’ve definitely acquired some of the unwanteds from nearby Atlanta due to the exceedingly cheap housing.

    Atlanta tore down their high-density public housing in the decade before the Olympics (for obvious reasons), scattering their riff-raff to places beyond the airport like Clayton County, Forest Park, College Park or South Dekalb.

    Part of the reason that ALL blacks tend to do better for themselves in the Atlanta region is that they are saved from each other by living much farther apart – no high-rise tenements like Cabrini Green or what you’d see in a place like Chicago. Even the lowest class of blacks in Atlanta often lives in a single-family home or duplex in a cul-de-sac.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Chicago, too, tore down its high rise slums, and also scattered the tenants to other cities.

    This is why Rockford, IL has the 5th highest violent crime rate of all midsized US cities.

    Rotten apples, or plague-carrying rats?
  157. @penskefile

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools. I can see where it might be effective though, so I think I'll start spreading a version of it about Austin.

    That sounds like some made-up negative recruiting talk from rival SEC schools.

    Agree on the “negative recruiting”, but I dunno about the “made-up” part…

  158. @Altai
    Peak current year (From Mr. "Because it's 2015" no less) on a different axis?

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/


    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous" says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.

    "This is your country more than it is for others"

     

    But why was Canada the way it was in order to attract them Justin?

    I'm sure all those Indians and Chinese will gladly respond the same way if the roles were reversed.

    I remember hearing similar remarks from an imam re: Australia. Talking points?

    And that, Trudeau added, goes twice for Quebec.

  159. @Camlost
    Athens GA is a college town which built a surprising number of public housing projects several decades ago. It seems to be a welfare magnet.

    This is exactly right about Athens. They've got several housing projects, plus a lot of low-rent apartment complexes that are somewhat dense. All you have to do is read the Athens newspaper to see how many fresh-faced white college students get mugged by the usual suspects when stumbling back home from the downtown bar scene. They've definitely acquired some of the unwanteds from nearby Atlanta due to the exceedingly cheap housing.

    Atlanta tore down their high-density public housing in the decade before the Olympics (for obvious reasons), scattering their riff-raff to places beyond the airport like Clayton County, Forest Park, College Park or South Dekalb.

    Part of the reason that ALL blacks tend to do better for themselves in the Atlanta region is that they are saved from each other by living much farther apart - no high-rise tenements like Cabrini Green or what you'd see in a place like Chicago. Even the lowest class of blacks in Atlanta often lives in a single-family home or duplex in a cul-de-sac.

    Chicago, too, tore down its high rise slums, and also scattered the tenants to other cities.

    This is why Rockford, IL has the 5th highest violent crime rate of all midsized US cities.

    Rotten apples, or plague-carrying rats?

    • Replies: @Camlost
    Exactly.

    Chicago was partly a model for what Atlanta did. But in Chicago they did it to get access to very valuable land, in Atlanta they did it get the riffraff away from the Olympics. The whole southern "quadrant" of Atlanta is a vast area that is black and suburban, stretching across parts of 5 counties.

    Around 6 weeks before the 1996 Olympics started the Atlanta PD also rounded up hundreds of known homeless trouble makers, and physically took them to Macon or Birmingham or Chattanooga or Columbia, SC and put a few bucks in their hands.

    Charlotte also learned from Northern Cities and adopted a policy of never letting too much low income housing cluster into one area of the city. Such policies are VERY beneficial to blacks - it saves them from themselves and they can absorb as many middle class tendencies as possible.
  160. @Hodag
    Are there any iSteve folks in Atlanta or thereabouts? My brother in law has to move there for work and needs a place to live. Problem:. He is really christian and believes in the equality of man. Where can I talk him into living so he son does not spend his entire school days in fights?

    “He is really christian and believes in the equality of man.”

    Send him to the Ethiopian Multicultural Republic of Gwinnett.

    http://www.cbs46.com/story/34842413/gwinnett-county-man-deported-after-female-genital-mutilation-sentence

    A few years in paradise and he might re-think that equality of man nonsense.

    • Replies: @Camlost
    We've also got "little Mogadishu" in Clarkston a few miles south of Gwinnett:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/immigration-arrests-target-somalis-atlanta-area/uYatzrGTOkEGWuwocYmReJ/

    They've turned several aparment complexes into a spitting image of Mogadishu, complete with burned out buildings that look like they've been under mortar attack from a Somali Warlord.

    And their 2nd generation is bringing great "business sense" to the country:

    https://media-beta.wsbtv.com/photo/2015/09/23/snellville_438775_ver1.0_1280_720.JPG

    https://media-beta.wsbtv.com/photo/2015/09/23/snellville_438775_ver1.0_1280_720.JPG

    https://patch.com/georgia/loganville/police-arrest-1-search-2nd-quiktrip-shootout

    https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images-crops/2015/09/14/brannon-hill-tk-body-image-1442267333-size_1000.jpg?output-quality=75
  161. @dc.sunsets
    Chicago, too, tore down its high rise slums, and also scattered the tenants to other cities.

    This is why Rockford, IL has the 5th highest violent crime rate of all midsized US cities.

    Rotten apples, or plague-carrying rats?

    Exactly.

    Chicago was partly a model for what Atlanta did. But in Chicago they did it to get access to very valuable land, in Atlanta they did it get the riffraff away from the Olympics. The whole southern “quadrant” of Atlanta is a vast area that is black and suburban, stretching across parts of 5 counties.

    Around 6 weeks before the 1996 Olympics started the Atlanta PD also rounded up hundreds of known homeless trouble makers, and physically took them to Macon or Birmingham or Chattanooga or Columbia, SC and put a few bucks in their hands.

    Charlotte also learned from Northern Cities and adopted a policy of never letting too much low income housing cluster into one area of the city. Such policies are VERY beneficial to blacks – it saves them from themselves and they can absorb as many middle class tendencies as possible.

  162. @Gomer
    "He is really christian and believes in the equality of man."

    Send him to the Ethiopian Multicultural Republic of Gwinnett.

    http://www.cbs46.com/story/34842413/gwinnett-county-man-deported-after-female-genital-mutilation-sentence

    A few years in paradise and he might re-think that equality of man nonsense.

    We’ve also got “little Mogadishu” in Clarkston a few miles south of Gwinnett:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/immigration-arrests-target-somalis-atlanta-area/uYatzrGTOkEGWuwocYmReJ/

    They’ve turned several aparment complexes into a spitting image of Mogadishu, complete with burned out buildings that look like they’ve been under mortar attack from a Somali Warlord.

    And their 2nd generation is bringing great “business sense” to the country:

    https://patch.com/georgia/loganville/police-arrest-1-search-2nd-quiktrip-shootout

    https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images-crops/2015/09/14/brannon-hill-tk-body-image-1442267333-size_1000.jpg?output-quality=75

  163. @Another Canadian
    Joe, they haven't played football in Buffalo since 1999.

    AC, Touche my friend, but in truth a lot of Div I colleges teams, Alabama, Ohio State, Auburn, Texas, etc. , would easily beat CFL teams…..and probably the Bills.

    • Replies: @Camlost
    No way.
    , @Brutusale
    Joe, what on earth is going on with the Bills' front office? To feel the need to trade Stephon Gilmore is bad enough, but to the Patriots?!
  164. @Kyle McKenna
    Our self-styled cultural 'elite' have to defend FGM at all costs, lest any light be shed upon the similar practice of male circumcision, which my study of Torah and Talmud teaches me is integral and indispensable to their faith.

    Mika, not to argue, but the foreskin is not an essential part of a man’s penis. I would argue that a clitoris is an important part of a woman’s genitalia.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    And I don't argue, except to note that it's of profound importance to most Jewish theologians, particularly the further back you go.

    FWIW, though, it does strike me as somewhat weird that any theology would posit that God (or "Nature") made our bodies imperfect and that we have to alter them to make them right.

  165. @joeyjoejoe
    "My best guess is it’s an innate physiological response of some of the “loser” males in a polygamous culture, as underclass black culture has become, de facto."

    I've actually wondered if this explains some part of homosexuality and effeminacy amongst males in general. My own utterly unsupported theory is that young boys compete for everything every moment they are alive. They talk over each other, they compete in sports, they compete in video games, they compete for attention from girls, they compete compete compete (note: this probably isn't particularly controversial. It may even be the standard description of male behavior). This doesn't mean they are always fighting, or always overtly aggressive towards each other: the competition ranges from overt (fight, football, insults) to covert (vie for alpha dominance in a singles bar, snide comments amongst groups of boys/men, etc).

    Some aren't very good at it. Many of those withdraw. They are the nerds of our culture. Others accept their status-they are the foolish buddy, the part of the 'gang' that isn't the leader (and again, I don't mean 'gang' in terms of a criminal group-it may be just a group fo 5 guys on a fishing trip, with one dominant and the other 4 not so), the offensive lineman to the running back and quarterback, etc.

    But some resent the dominance game, and resent their place in it (near the bottom) and go full Sampson-and embrace the anti-alpha side. Instead of competing for alpha status, they accept fully the anti-alpha status, and become Paul Lynde or Richard Simmons. Its a way of diffusing the conflict-not by accepting their role as beta male, and not by continuing to fight a fight they can't win (against the alpha male)-but instead go full effeminate, or 'sissy'. When an alpha male beats the strongest guy in the school (say, when the quarterback 'wins' against the offensive tackle), it means something. When an alpha male 'wins' and takes the prettiest girl to the prom, it means something (and when the alpha 8 year old dominates a kickball game, it means something). But when an alpha male dominates a Richard Simmons, it doesn't mean anything. The alpha hasn't gained anything he didn't have before, and Richard Simmons didn't lose anything he had before.

    Effeminacy may be a coping mechanism some choose to avoid losing the male dominance game.

    joe

    I doubt it: sexual preference seems to emerge early (prior to pubescent or even pre pubescent social bonding and competition) and from the lizard brain. These kind of socio-cultural explanations could apply to ‘late onset homosexuality’ I suppose or certain kinds of opportunistic homosexuality among people already predisposed to be bisexual, but otherwise I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Loveofknowledge
    I think you're right. Everybody should read Northwestern U. professor J. Michael Bailey's articles about male-to-female transgender individuals - he's the guy who literally wrote the book on the subject a few years ago (The Man Who Would Be Queen).

    Basically most MtF transgenders fall into one of two categories:
    * Very effeminate gay men who think they will be more attractive to men as a woman, because other gay men overwhelmingly prefer masculine men.
    * Straight men with an unusual sexual fetish he called "autogynephilia" - being turned on by the idea of yourself as a woman - which emerges around puberty. He says a near-universal experience for this type around puberty is putting on women's clothing, standing in front of a mirror, and masturbating.

    His book was apparently well-received by the transgender community at the time, because they appreciated someone understanding them. But now he's reportedly attacked by activists because his research (i.e. the truth) doesn't quite fit the whole "I just always felt like a little girl on the inside" narrative.

  166. @Buffalo Joe
    Mika, not to argue, but the foreskin is not an essential part of a man's penis. I would argue that a clitoris is an important part of a woman's genitalia.

    And I don’t argue, except to note that it’s of profound importance to most Jewish theologians, particularly the further back you go.

    FWIW, though, it does strike me as somewhat weird that any theology would posit that God (or “Nature”) made our bodies imperfect and that we have to alter them to make them right.

  167. @Buffalo Joe
    AC, Touche my friend, but in truth a lot of Div I colleges teams, Alabama, Ohio State, Auburn, Texas, etc. , would easily beat CFL teams.....and probably the Bills.

    No way.

  168. @blank-misgivings
    I doubt it: sexual preference seems to emerge early (prior to pubescent or even pre pubescent social bonding and competition) and from the lizard brain. These kind of socio-cultural explanations could apply to 'late onset homosexuality' I suppose or certain kinds of opportunistic homosexuality among people already predisposed to be bisexual, but otherwise I doubt it.

    I think you’re right. Everybody should read Northwestern U. professor J. Michael Bailey’s articles about male-to-female transgender individuals – he’s the guy who literally wrote the book on the subject a few years ago (The Man Who Would Be Queen).

    Basically most MtF transgenders fall into one of two categories:
    * Very effeminate gay men who think they will be more attractive to men as a woman, because other gay men overwhelmingly prefer masculine men.
    * Straight men with an unusual sexual fetish he called “autogynephilia” – being turned on by the idea of yourself as a woman – which emerges around puberty. He says a near-universal experience for this type around puberty is putting on women’s clothing, standing in front of a mirror, and masturbating.

    His book was apparently well-received by the transgender community at the time, because they appreciated someone understanding them. But now he’s reportedly attacked by activists because his research (i.e. the truth) doesn’t quite fit the whole “I just always felt like a little girl on the inside” narrative.

  169. @Hodag
    Mike Stipe of R.E.M. (can't forget the periods) is a famously gay Athens product. Oh, the B-52s, a great band, had everyone but the girls gay. This was 1980ish. Was Guadacanal Diary from Athens? Not great but fun.

    I met the “normal” guys (no Stipe) from REM when they took the time to shoot the breeze with people who worked in the same building as the radio station they were visiting to promote a show in Boston the next day. They were heading out to play 18 at a local private course that a wealthy fan had got them on. Even in the early 90s, I got the impression that Stipe wasn’t exactly well-liked by the rest of them.

    • Replies: @black sea
    Back in the '80s, I met the members of REM very briefly, but knew people who knew them much better during their Athens inception years.

    Stipe seems a bit much. "Artistic"in a way that's easy to take seriously when you're a college student, and hard to take seriously thereafter. I don't doubt that the others found him trying, but also useful, since he is a pretty good singer and sometimes an interesting lyricist, in a hit or miss way.
  170. @Another Canadian
    Joe, they haven't played football in Buffalo since 1999.

    Just remember that the best player on the average CFL team would be a benchwarmer in the NFL. Even the Bills. Which is why he’s in the CFL in the first place.

    You used to be able to comfort your hoser soul by mentioning the NHL and American players being the spear carriers, but that’s all gone now.

  171. @Buffalo Joe
    AC, Touche my friend, but in truth a lot of Div I colleges teams, Alabama, Ohio State, Auburn, Texas, etc. , would easily beat CFL teams.....and probably the Bills.

    Joe, what on earth is going on with the Bills’ front office? To feel the need to trade Stephon Gilmore is bad enough, but to the Patriots?!

  172. Brutus, You in Bean Town will be happier with Mike Gilislee, the RB that the Pats plucked from the Bills.

  173. @Jake
    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.

    Funny that a place named after a Greek city would be gay.

  174. @Triumph104
    Like Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas has a homosexual son. Thomas' son Zeke was raped at age 12 and again last year (?). He was drugged by some man he met on Grindr. Zeke seems practically giddy from the attack and current publicity and still thinks Grindr is a great service.

    Athens, GA has been the gay capital of college towns in the South since at least the mid-1970s. There have long been rumors that a large number of black UGA athletes are on the down-low and chose UGA because Athens is so gay.
     
    In regards to Jake's comment on the University of Georgia, Herschel Walker has an effeminate son that has not officially "declared a major".

    https://youtu.be/Ufq-FdaZSBw?t=63

    Was unaware of both these indicators of societal decay. Always liked the “Herschel Walker story”. Can only imagine what the poor guy is going through now.

  175. @Brutusale
    I met the "normal" guys (no Stipe) from REM when they took the time to shoot the breeze with people who worked in the same building as the radio station they were visiting to promote a show in Boston the next day. They were heading out to play 18 at a local private course that a wealthy fan had got them on. Even in the early 90s, I got the impression that Stipe wasn't exactly well-liked by the rest of them.

    Back in the ’80s, I met the members of REM very briefly, but knew people who knew them much better during their Athens inception years.

    Stipe seems a bit much. “Artistic”in a way that’s easy to take seriously when you’re a college student, and hard to take seriously thereafter. I don’t doubt that the others found him trying, but also useful, since he is a pretty good singer and sometimes an interesting lyricist, in a hit or miss way.

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