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iSteve commenter Stephen Paul Foster of FosterSpeak writes:

Parkinson’s Law: “Work expands to fill the time available for its completion.”

The Diversity Parkinson’s Law: “Diversity work expands to fill the time of the staff added to the diversity payroll.”

Diversity professionals talk about how important diversity is, and since there is never enough diversity and no one can tell you exactly what it is, much less when you’ve reached “peak diversity” or if you’re even close, you can never have enough people to remind everyone how important it is. The more the staff, the more the diversity-talk. The more diversity-talk there is, ergo, the more important it is.

Are you beginning to grasp the circularity in play? Since the language of “diversity” is so nebulous, abstract and expansive, the work of “diversity” is simply the praising of diversity, or as they put it, “celebrating diversity.”

Notice how much “diversity” work contrasts with most other kinds of university employment, a math professor, for example. A math professor isn’t paid to talk about how important mathematics is; he doesn’t have to. He just teaches people how to do mathematics because it is obvious how important mathematics is. You only hire as many math professors as you have students who want or need to learn mathematics; any additional math profs would have nothing to do.

Or, take the custodian who cleans the classrooms and how quickly nasty things get without him: think what would happen to him if all he did was talk about how important it is to have tidy buildings but never emptied the trash cans.

 
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  1. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Diversity in the African workplace:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51341567

    Police in South Africa have launched a manhunt for killers of nine illegal miners who were stoned to death in a western district of Johannesburg.

    … Thousands of illegal miners, known as “zama zamas” (“those who try their luck” in Zulu) work in the country.

    Violent clashes between rival groups of workers are commonplace, reports say.

  2. As i’ve said before i think the real “win” will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution that
    — teaches the tradition–circa 1960–Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    — encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    — espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @AnotherDad


    As i’ve said before i think the real “win” will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.
     
    There is already a lot of opportunity to do just this with many technical topics, especially those pertaining to computers.

    Where this falls down a bit is any sort of technical work that requires a lab to perform trials and experiments. Chemistry is the example that springs to my mind. I don't see that changing soon, in my mind the market simply isn't there.

    But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
     
    https://www.hillsdale.edu/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsdale_College


    Hillsdale College is a private conservative college in Hillsdale, Michigan. Founded in 1844 by abolitionists known as Free Will Baptists, it has a liberal arts curriculum that is based on the Western heritage as a product of both the Greco-Roman culture and the Judeo-Christian tradition.[4] Hillsdale requires every student, regardless of concentration of studies, to complete a core curriculum that includes courses on the Great Books, the U.S. Constitution, biology, chemistry, and physics.[5]

    Since the late 20th century, the college has been one of several in the United States which decline governmental financial support, instead depending entirely on private donations to supplement students' payments for tuition.
     
    , @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    Hillsdale is great as Howard mentions.

    Red state public universities and Christian colleges without giant football programs are another option.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Not My Economy
    @AnotherDad

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it's literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the "more people should go into the trades". It's great... for somebody else's kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn't get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.


    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn't bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you're better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing...) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @donvonburg, @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    , @istevefan
    @AnotherDad

    I don't know if it's any good but St John's College focuses on the great books curriculum, which emphasizes Western Civilization.

    https://www.sjc.edu/academic-programs/undergraduate/great-books-reading-list

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @MBlanc46
    @AnotherDad

    I have a deep attachment to the liberal arts and sciences and to the university (as a physical place). But you’re correct, AD. They are so corrupted that taking them apart (with the hope of being able to put them back together in the future) is the only way forward.

    , @anon
    @AnotherDad

    — espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    "Courtship"? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles? How do you think "courtship" works online?

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn't 1980-something anymore.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius

    , @kikz
    @AnotherDad

    agreed/online. most uni's today espouse the 'real-estate' model, and charge excessive fees for on-campus room-board/parking, it is ridiculous, even for commuter students. even for tech schools such as @ UTDallas many of the degrees have mandated SJW/socialist/commie filler courses, and is abysmal in its online course offerings.

    there does seem to be much work needed (very limited utility)in the decentralized/online dating/courtship models/apps available, as most are simply hook-up sites. even such as match.com (two highly discriminating daughters w/subscriptions), e-harmony, xtian match, etc., which supposedly are for those seeking long-term relationships/marriage/family, are fraught w/scams/players, hordes of 'substandard offerings' and ineffective filter algorithms. needless to say, they have been underwhelmed at local offerings w/in a 100mi radius of DFW proper.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  3. It’s (at long last) a Parkinson/Peter Mash-Up

    The Peter Principle:

    “In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence.”

    Since Diversity = Incompetence to start with, we have what amounts to Parkinson’s “Diversity” filling useful areas of endeavor until there are none left.

    Thus do Peter’s incompetent Diversity Managers create a vacuum (think Boeing) and the very reason the organization was founded is subordinate to twaddle. But there’s method here, because it’s sure to doom every institution that embraces it. All!

    So the clock’s been ticking in diversity land for a long time now.

    • Replies: @CrunchyButRealistCon
    @Franz

    Here's some Diversity Programming & Special Pleading that is being suggested by Firefox.
    A lot of this stuff decodes to mostly resistance by Senior management to letting a "CDO" implement full Racial Re-engineering of a work force.
    https://catapult.co/editorial/topics/exit-interviews/stories

  4. of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy


    of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?
     
    Yes, we should be making our own dollar store crap.

    American robots need work!

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Bigdicknick
    @Andy

    Just look at south Africa, the answer is never.

  5. Here’s an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They’re called “The Finders.”

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 “well-dressed” adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, “The Finders” apparently were a”Satanic Cult” and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of “alternative lifestyle” commune called “The Finders.” The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn’t believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the “free love” lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a “rite of passage into a Satanic organization.”

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of “blood rituals.” In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in “white robes.” The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of “international market for children.”

    Apparently, in their DC home, “The Finders” had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as “The Game Caller” and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie’s wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of “The Finders.”

    Oddly, “The Finders” sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Finders are almost certainly not a "proper" cult (in other words, there really are Mormons and Scientologists who sincerely believe in Mormonism and Scientology), they're probably the pedophile equivalent of the CIA's off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail. Penn Jillette will tell you there's no such thing as Satanism, but he will also tell you that as an atheist the one point at which he can sort of understand introducing religion is when you're an overwhelmed new parent having to rely on the threat of invisible babysitters to control the kids. Cultic appearances would also scare away botherers and create legal protections, ie, this is our religion, never mind the goats. The goats aren't there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they're to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki-- for the children.
    There's an extremely good documentary, which doesn't get into black helicopters or cult stuff, but which does help to make real the surprisingly large and active child trafficking situation at the time:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WLg5RJzBM
    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @JohnnyWalker123, @Thatgirl

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Here's a quick 5-minute summary of "The Finders."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbXbzK-XIA

    It gets very interesting from 1:40-3:10. Watch it.

    When the DC police raided the cult's compound, they found instructions for the trading, purchasing, trading, and kidnapping of children on the global stage. Passports implicating foreign agencies and governments were uncovered.

    There were photo albums of white-robed adults, children slaughtering goats, toddlers pulling dead baby goats from a womb, and a goat head presented to a child. There was a Satanic altar as well.

    A goat head.

    Some "The Finders" cult member names were found in the FBI's counter-intelligence files.

    Florida Congressman Tom Lewis said that our own government might have something to do with the organization.

    "The Finders" cult leader was Marion Pettie, a former Air Force Master Sergeant. His wife worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s. His son was a pilot for the covert CIA-operated airline "Air America."

    "The Finders" possessed advancing computing technology. One piece of their computer technology allowed them to quickly connect to the internet and send e-mails. In 1987!

    The CIA took over the investigation. The CIA later declared that they didn't find anything incriminating. They then closed down the investigation.

    Here are some articles about "The Finders."

    Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/08/ex-finders-tell-of-games-complex-beliefs/dcb48101-8d06-4777-a8e3-fcf46fd7ed0f/


    one former associate said he believes that members have dabbled in satanic-type or pagan rituals only in the past few months, as the group's latest "game."

    "Games" played a central role inside the Finders, and it was often difficult to know when the members were playing out some fantasy and when they were not, ex-associates said. The Finders' tendency to abandon jobs and homes at a moment's notice could complicate law enforcement efforts to find the group's members, who were gone from their Washington bases when police arrived Thursday, sources said.

    Sometimes they approached businesses -- from a major Washington law firm to a leftist think tank -- and offered their expertise in computer programming and other services, sources said. Other times the group went through the motions of setting up a business, sometimes printing up phony business cards. Some members used up to 20 aliases, ex-associates said.
     
    Orlando Sentinel

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1987-02-09-0110000261-story.html

    The commune children were so dirty and full of sores on their bodies that they were not allowed to play with other children on the playground at the school near the group's residence, former associates said. Group members had taken the children there to encourage them to play with non-group youngsters, but the two groups did not mix because the Finders children could hardly communicate with the others, one ex-associate said.

     

    New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

    INQUIRY SPREADS ON 6 CHILDREN AND CULT

     

    https://twitter.com/zeelaagee/status/1187968780619567104

    "The Finders." Keith Rainiere. Jeffrey Epstein. Boystown in Omaha. McMartin Pre School.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @trelane
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Strange

    https://youtu.be/KAVLz8hKYGk

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused.
     
    You can guess why they were brought to Tallahassee, of all places:


    The Most Phallic Building in the World


    https://i.redd.it/7l10pnrbzqwy.jpg

    http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/events/phallic/fl_capitol.GIF

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Anonymous

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare.
     
    A pretty significant segment of the White American middle class owned home computers in 1987. Not a majority, no, and they were often used a lot less (or primarily by kids), but the characterization of "hardly anybody", is grossly inaccurate.

    The skills necessary to access internet-based email, presumably through the old FIDOnet, would hardly be beyond the capabilities of a tech-saavy BBS sysop in 1987. Advanced stuff, yes, but hardly groundbreaking. One of the "Finders" was a nerd, apparently.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  6. Isn’t there a corallary to Parkinson’s Law that the least diverse department in an organisation is the Diversity Department?

    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
    @The Alarmist

    Human Resources is where the DIE (diversity inclusion equity) mandates are enforced. Since none of these activities have anything to do with generating value, they are typically staffed by the least competent members of the organization, typically affirmative action hires. So no. In my experience, these areas are pretty damned diverse.

  7. It very much reminds me of North Korea’s Juche or “self-reliance” State philosophy/religion. It’s very vague and full of buzzwords. Anyone who speaks out against it is excommunicated and sent to a camp.

    • Agree: Change that Matters
  8. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/1187879194228908032

    https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1199092707701997568

    Here's an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They're called "The Finders."

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 "well-dressed" adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, "The Finders" apparently were a"Satanic Cult" and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of "alternative lifestyle" commune called "The Finders." The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn't believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the "free love" lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a "rite of passage into a Satanic organization."

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of "blood rituals." In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in "white robes." The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of "international market for children."

    Apparently, in their DC home, "The Finders" had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as "The Game Caller" and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie's wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of "The Finders."

    Oddly, "The Finders" sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxim5-PS9tE&t=76s

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @trelane, @Reg Cæsar, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    The Finders are almost certainly not a “proper” cult (in other words, there really are Mormons and Scientologists who sincerely believe in Mormonism and Scientology), they’re probably the pedophile equivalent of the CIA’s off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail. Penn Jillette will tell you there’s no such thing as Satanism, but he will also tell you that as an atheist the one point at which he can sort of understand introducing religion is when you’re an overwhelmed new parent having to rely on the threat of invisible babysitters to control the kids. Cultic appearances would also scare away botherers and create legal protections, ie, this is our religion, never mind the goats. The goats aren’t there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they’re to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki– for the children.
    There’s an extremely good documentary, which doesn’t get into black helicopters or cult stuff, but which does help to make real the surprisingly large and active child trafficking situation at the time:

    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @J.Ross

    "the pedophile equivalent of the CIA's off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. ... children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail"

    The most diabolical aspect of espionage work.

    "the real weird stuff"

    Like ritual rape and murder. Blood sacrifice is an ancient human rite, found in all religions. In the Western world, Christianity has its Satanic underbelly, and the Jews have their Sabbatean-Frankist sect. These black magic cults have grown tendrils into the European, Israeli, and American intelligence agencies.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross


    Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail.
     
    I have no idea how much these CIA-controlled assets actually believe in their bizarre Occult rituals, but they're definitely engaging in deliberate blackmail, bribing powerful individuals, and hustling for money. Perhaps there's a mix of true Occult believers and greedy/sadistic/perverted cynics. The cynics are the conduit between the cult and the official CIA.

    The goats aren’t there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they’re to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki– for the children.
     
    Creating traumatic experiences for the children is an important part of this. Through abuse and trauma, they're trying to create dissociative identity disorder in the children. That makes it easier to control the children. When the children become adults, the control often continues. These children are basically MK Ultra assets, bereft of any free will.

    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

     

    Larry King and Craig Spence were trafficking call boys to many powerful men in DC. King ended up in jail for many years (for unrelated financial fraud), while Spence committed "suicide."

    The Discovery Channel made a documentary about this.

    Watch it here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5NNsUr6hWo
    , @Thatgirl
    @J.Ross

    The man named Tom in this video was a popular left-wing professor at the University of Texas at Austin when I went there in the late 80s.

    He was a real firebrand. He sadly killed himself in the early 90s after struggling for years with manic-depression.

    His son, Tom Philpot Jr., is a journalist with, I think, Mother Jones.

  9. The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect. Therefore until the language is perfect, the Revolution is not complete and must continue.

  10. How many employees will be subsumed into the anticompetitive diversity parasite within businesses? Just to get a ballpark figure, about ten percent of Soviet citizens were Communist party members. And of course everyone else lived in fear of them.

  11. Country music used to be the music of traditional America. It’s mostly been destroyed, watered down and feminized. But there are exceptions, one of which is Carolina boy Luke Combs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Country music per se was invented in the 1920s to play on radio for rural farmers and others with battery radios. Along with flour and biscuit mix and cooking staples, laxatives were a major group of sponsors.

    The ((Auerbach)) family (Hill and Range) were the big players.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  12. • Replies: @Lot
    @Anonymous

    Doesn’t she realize that she’s already the preferred candidate of people who know and care about “identity-affirming curricula”?

    As for “educator workforce keep pace with demographics,” sounds like she wants to smash the teacher union imposed seniority system and minimum teacher standards that often results in 80% white teachers in 80% non-white districts.

    Warren is the most explicitly and extreme anti-white serious candidate for president in our history.

    , @bomag
    @Anonymous


    That also means investing in identity-affirming curricula, so that students see themselves in their school work... all year long.
     
    Wow.

    "Judge not by the content of the curriculum; judge by the color of the characters."

    I wonder if White kids will get to study White curricula.
    , @HammerJack
    @Anonymous

    Has she seen any of the "curricula" in our schools for the past, say, fifty years?

    It doesn't really matter, does it.
    Window dressing.

    , @Moses
    @Anonymous

    If the Indian gets in the White House run for the hills, White People.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Continuing to militarize schools won’t improve school safety.
     
    The Philippines used to require every male high-school senior to take Junior ROTC. That sounds like a great idea to institute here.

    Also, let the boys vote. After all, they will have to register with Selective Service in the upcoming Congressional term. What better way to concentrate the mind?
  13. OT – any iStevers know anything about this guy?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/feb/01/david-latchman-geneticist-should-resign-over-his-team-science-fraud

    A row over scientific fraud at the highest level of British academia has led to calls for one of the country’s leading geneticists and highest-paid university chiefs to leave his posts.

    David Latchman, professor of genetics at University College London and master of Birkbeck, University of London – a post that earns him £380,000 a year – has angered senior academics by presiding over a laboratory that published fraudulent research, mostly on genetics and heart disease, for more than a decade. The number of fabricated results and the length of time over which the deception took place made the case one of the worst instances of research fraud uncovered in a British university.

    Latchman blames junior lab staff for falsifying data, and two investigations at UCL, the first in 2015, found no evidence that he intended to commit, or was aware of, the fraud. A disciplinary hearing in 2018 concluded that there were insufficient grounds for dismissal or for any formal action against him.

    But the investigations were deeply critical of Latchman. Both found that his failure to run the lab properly, and his position as author on many of the doctored papers, amounted to “recklessness”, and upheld an allegation of research misconduct against him.

    The outcome of the case has riled a number of senior academics, who believe Latchman has taken responsibility neither for the fraud nor for the waste of grant money that happened on his watch. Many of the fraudulent papers covered projects funded by the British Heart Foundation.

  14. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/1187879194228908032

    https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1199092707701997568

    Here's an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They're called "The Finders."

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 "well-dressed" adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, "The Finders" apparently were a"Satanic Cult" and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of "alternative lifestyle" commune called "The Finders." The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn't believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the "free love" lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a "rite of passage into a Satanic organization."

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of "blood rituals." In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in "white robes." The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of "international market for children."

    Apparently, in their DC home, "The Finders" had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as "The Game Caller" and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie's wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of "The Finders."

    Oddly, "The Finders" sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxim5-PS9tE&t=76s

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @trelane, @Reg Cæsar, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Here’s a quick 5-minute summary of “The Finders.”

    It gets very interesting from 1:40-3:10. Watch it.

    When the DC police raided the cult’s compound, they found instructions for the trading, purchasing, trading, and kidnapping of children on the global stage. Passports implicating foreign agencies and governments were uncovered.

    There were photo albums of white-robed adults, children slaughtering goats, toddlers pulling dead baby goats from a womb, and a goat head presented to a child. There was a Satanic altar as well.

    A goat head.

    Some “The Finders” cult member names were found in the FBI’s counter-intelligence files.

    Florida Congressman Tom Lewis said that our own government might have something to do with the organization.

    “The Finders” cult leader was Marion Pettie, a former Air Force Master Sergeant. His wife worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s. His son was a pilot for the covert CIA-operated airline “Air America.”

    “The Finders” possessed advancing computing technology. One piece of their computer technology allowed them to quickly connect to the internet and send e-mails. In 1987!

    The CIA took over the investigation. The CIA later declared that they didn’t find anything incriminating. They then closed down the investigation.

    Here are some articles about “The Finders.”

    Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/08/ex-finders-tell-of-games-complex-beliefs/dcb48101-8d06-4777-a8e3-fcf46fd7ed0f/

    one former associate said he believes that members have dabbled in satanic-type or pagan rituals only in the past few months, as the group’s latest “game.”

    “Games” played a central role inside the Finders, and it was often difficult to know when the members were playing out some fantasy and when they were not, ex-associates said. The Finders’ tendency to abandon jobs and homes at a moment’s notice could complicate law enforcement efforts to find the group’s members, who were gone from their Washington bases when police arrived Thursday, sources said.

    Sometimes they approached businesses — from a major Washington law firm to a leftist think tank — and offered their expertise in computer programming and other services, sources said. Other times the group went through the motions of setting up a business, sometimes printing up phony business cards. Some members used up to 20 aliases, ex-associates said.

    Orlando Sentinel

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1987-02-09-0110000261-story.html

    The commune children were so dirty and full of sores on their bodies that they were not allowed to play with other children on the playground at the school near the group’s residence, former associates said. Group members had taken the children there to encourage them to play with non-group youngsters, but the two groups did not mix because the Finders children could hardly communicate with the others, one ex-associate said.

    New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

    INQUIRY SPREADS ON 6 CHILDREN AND CULT

    “The Finders.” Keith Rainiere. Jeffrey Epstein. Boystown in Omaha. McMartin Pre School.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/NewsVortex/status/259719662160457728

    Here are excerpts from the above article.

    https://thewaronliberty.com/tag/craig-spence/


    A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington’s political elite, documents obtained by The Washington Times reveal.

     


    One of the ring’s high profile clients was so well-connected, in fact, that he could arrange a middle-of-the-night tour of the While House for his friends on Sunday, July 3, of last year. Among the six persons on the extraordinary 1 a.m. tour were two male prostitutes.

     


    Among the client names contained in the vouchers — and identified by prostitutes and escort operators –are government officials, locally based US military officers, businessmen, lawyers, bankers, congressional aides, and other professionals.

     


    One of the ring’s big-spending clients is Craig J. Spence, Washington socialite and international trade consultant, according to documents and interviews with operators and prostitutes who say they engaged in sexual activities with Mr. Spence.

    Mr. Spence spent upwards of $20,000 a month for male prostitutes who provided sex to him and his friends, said to include military personnel who also acted as his “body-guards.” It was Mr. Spence who arranged the nocturnal tour of the Reagan White House. Repeated attempts to reach Mr. Spence by telephone, fax machine and personal visits to his home, were unsuccessful.

     

    A major concern, said the former official with longtime ties to top-ranking military intelligence officers, was that hostile foreign intelligence services were using young male prostitutes to compromise top administration homosexuals, thus making them subject to blackmail.

    “We have known for many, many years that there is a department of the KGB [Soviet intelligence] whose job it is to prey on sexual deviants” said retired Lt. Gen. Daniel Graham, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    Because “closet” homosexuals in government service can easily be “turned” through blackmail for espionage purposes, Gen. Graham said. “we have always in intelligence tried very hard not to be giving classified information to known homosexuals.”
     
    So this "homosexual prostitution ring" blackmailed many men from the political class, military establishment, and surrounding DC swamp. Craig Spence (who was apart of the ring) was powerful enough to arrange tours of the White House during the middle of the night.

    https://twitter.com/karenricks/status/966664872623616006

    If you want to learn more about this scandal, watch this Discovery Channel documentary called "The Conspiracy of Silence." The documentary was produced by British journalists, who encountered a vast child trafficking network that operated out of Boystown in Omaha, Nebraska. This network was used in blackmail operations involving the elite of Washington DC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKjv_200J4

    Counterpunch had an article on this too.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years

    I should also say that I’ve looked at his evidence, listened to interviews, sorted through 200 receipts for planes chartered by Larry King with five-to-eight unnamed passengers, and I’ve read the book carefully. I can think of no innocent explanation for why King would be flying children, some of them spirited out of the Catholic orphanage Boys Town, around the United States, mostly to Washington. I’ve listened to Nick at great length on the phone about all of this as he was reporting. I have listened to him in the immediate aftermath of strange phone calls and death threats over the years.

    This isn’t “conspiracy theory.” It’s one of the best investigative books I’ve ever read. If it’s true, then there are significant elements in America’s ruling class that are depraved beyond Caligula’s dreams. And I don’t see how it isn’t true.
     

    King’s partner in crime in Washington appears to have been a man named Craig Spence, surely one of the oddest figures in the history of American politics. Once a correspondent for ABC in Vietnam, Spence subsequently made a living blackmailing rightwing politicians in Japan. In Washington, he had a large house that he used for parties. The house was bugged from floor to ceiling, and he often seemed to be in possession of information he could have learned only from the bugs. He bragged about his CIA connections. He was also in possession of White House china, proudly and illegally displayed in his house, that he likely grabbed on midnight tours of the George H. W. Bush White House. “Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush,” was the headline in the June 29, 1989 Washington Times. Sub-headline: “Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.” Spence, according to the article, was the organizer. Later articles said that Spence had been the tour guide on three more occasions and had a 15-year-old boy with him. At least one victim of the Omaha ring, Paul Bonacci, says he went on a late-night tour of the White House. Spence committed a convenient suicide later that year.

     

    Craig Spence was a gay version of Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked young boys to powerful individuals in the DC establishment. He also held sexual "parties" at his house, which was bugged.

    In 1989, Craig Spence committed "suicide." His "suicide" came shortly after his White House prostitution ring was uncovered.

    Reminds you of Jeffrey Epstein, who also ran a prostitution ring and then committed "suicide."

    https://apnews.com/b23c2d81176c8d92a2f5069039bdc0b0

    BOSTON (AP) _ Craig Spence, a high-profile lobbyist linked to a Washington sex scandal under federal investigation, was found dead after barricading himself in a hotel room, police said Saturday.

     

    Replies: @Cortes, @Paco Wové

  15. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/1187879194228908032

    https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1199092707701997568

    Here's an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They're called "The Finders."

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 "well-dressed" adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, "The Finders" apparently were a"Satanic Cult" and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of "alternative lifestyle" commune called "The Finders." The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn't believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the "free love" lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a "rite of passage into a Satanic organization."

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of "blood rituals." In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in "white robes." The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of "international market for children."

    Apparently, in their DC home, "The Finders" had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as "The Game Caller" and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie's wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of "The Finders."

    Oddly, "The Finders" sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxim5-PS9tE&t=76s

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @trelane, @Reg Cæsar, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Strange

  16. Ray Bradbury’s splendid story “The Fruit at the Bottom of the Bowl” in a paperback collection I bought second hand (“The Golden Apples of the Sun”) or the chicken pecking party story in Kesey’s “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” must’ve inspired all the Diversity BS.

  17. The Peter Principle is also very informative vis-à-vis diversity, inclusion and equality: An employee eventually reaches a level of promotion beyond which they are incompetent.

    • Agree: jim jones
  18. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    As i’ve said before i think the real “win” will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    There is already a lot of opportunity to do just this with many technical topics, especially those pertaining to computers.

    Where this falls down a bit is any sort of technical work that requires a lab to perform trials and experiments. Chemistry is the example that springs to my mind. I don’t see that changing soon, in my mind the market simply isn’t there.

    But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution

    https://www.hillsdale.edu/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsdale_College

    Hillsdale College is a private conservative college in Hillsdale, Michigan. Founded in 1844 by abolitionists known as Free Will Baptists, it has a liberal arts curriculum that is based on the Western heritage as a product of both the Greco-Roman culture and the Judeo-Christian tradition.[4] Hillsdale requires every student, regardless of concentration of studies, to complete a core curriculum that includes courses on the Great Books, the U.S. Constitution, biology, chemistry, and physics.[5]

    Since the late 20th century, the college has been one of several in the United States which decline governmental financial support, instead depending entirely on private donations to supplement students’ payments for tuition.

  19. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Here's a quick 5-minute summary of "The Finders."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbXbzK-XIA

    It gets very interesting from 1:40-3:10. Watch it.

    When the DC police raided the cult's compound, they found instructions for the trading, purchasing, trading, and kidnapping of children on the global stage. Passports implicating foreign agencies and governments were uncovered.

    There were photo albums of white-robed adults, children slaughtering goats, toddlers pulling dead baby goats from a womb, and a goat head presented to a child. There was a Satanic altar as well.

    A goat head.

    Some "The Finders" cult member names were found in the FBI's counter-intelligence files.

    Florida Congressman Tom Lewis said that our own government might have something to do with the organization.

    "The Finders" cult leader was Marion Pettie, a former Air Force Master Sergeant. His wife worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s. His son was a pilot for the covert CIA-operated airline "Air America."

    "The Finders" possessed advancing computing technology. One piece of their computer technology allowed them to quickly connect to the internet and send e-mails. In 1987!

    The CIA took over the investigation. The CIA later declared that they didn't find anything incriminating. They then closed down the investigation.

    Here are some articles about "The Finders."

    Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/08/ex-finders-tell-of-games-complex-beliefs/dcb48101-8d06-4777-a8e3-fcf46fd7ed0f/


    one former associate said he believes that members have dabbled in satanic-type or pagan rituals only in the past few months, as the group's latest "game."

    "Games" played a central role inside the Finders, and it was often difficult to know when the members were playing out some fantasy and when they were not, ex-associates said. The Finders' tendency to abandon jobs and homes at a moment's notice could complicate law enforcement efforts to find the group's members, who were gone from their Washington bases when police arrived Thursday, sources said.

    Sometimes they approached businesses -- from a major Washington law firm to a leftist think tank -- and offered their expertise in computer programming and other services, sources said. Other times the group went through the motions of setting up a business, sometimes printing up phony business cards. Some members used up to 20 aliases, ex-associates said.
     
    Orlando Sentinel

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1987-02-09-0110000261-story.html

    The commune children were so dirty and full of sores on their bodies that they were not allowed to play with other children on the playground at the school near the group's residence, former associates said. Group members had taken the children there to encourage them to play with non-group youngsters, but the two groups did not mix because the Finders children could hardly communicate with the others, one ex-associate said.

     

    New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

    INQUIRY SPREADS ON 6 CHILDREN AND CULT

     

    https://twitter.com/zeelaagee/status/1187968780619567104

    "The Finders." Keith Rainiere. Jeffrey Epstein. Boystown in Omaha. McMartin Pre School.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/NewsVortex/status/259719662160457728

    Here are excerpts from the above article.

    https://thewaronliberty.com/tag/craig-spence/

    A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington’s political elite, documents obtained by The Washington Times reveal.

    One of the ring’s high profile clients was so well-connected, in fact, that he could arrange a middle-of-the-night tour of the While House for his friends on Sunday, July 3, of last year. Among the six persons on the extraordinary 1 a.m. tour were two male prostitutes.

    Among the client names contained in the vouchers — and identified by prostitutes and escort operators –are government officials, locally based US military officers, businessmen, lawyers, bankers, congressional aides, and other professionals.

    One of the ring’s big-spending clients is Craig J. Spence, Washington socialite and international trade consultant, according to documents and interviews with operators and prostitutes who say they engaged in sexual activities with Mr. Spence.

    Mr. Spence spent upwards of $20,000 a month for male prostitutes who provided sex to him and his friends, said to include military personnel who also acted as his “body-guards.” It was Mr. Spence who arranged the nocturnal tour of the Reagan White House. Repeated attempts to reach Mr. Spence by telephone, fax machine and personal visits to his home, were unsuccessful.

    A major concern, said the former official with longtime ties to top-ranking military intelligence officers, was that hostile foreign intelligence services were using young male prostitutes to compromise top administration homosexuals, thus making them subject to blackmail.

    “We have known for many, many years that there is a department of the KGB [Soviet intelligence] whose job it is to prey on sexual deviants” said retired Lt. Gen. Daniel Graham, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    Because “closet” homosexuals in government service can easily be “turned” through blackmail for espionage purposes, Gen. Graham said. “we have always in intelligence tried very hard not to be giving classified information to known homosexuals.”

    So this “homosexual prostitution ring” blackmailed many men from the political class, military establishment, and surrounding DC swamp. Craig Spence (who was apart of the ring) was powerful enough to arrange tours of the White House during the middle of the night.

    https://twitter.com/karenricks/status/966664872623616006

    If you want to learn more about this scandal, watch this Discovery Channel documentary called “The Conspiracy of Silence.” The documentary was produced by British journalists, who encountered a vast child trafficking network that operated out of Boystown in Omaha, Nebraska. This network was used in blackmail operations involving the elite of Washington DC.

    Counterpunch had an article on this too.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years

    I should also say that I’ve looked at his evidence, listened to interviews, sorted through 200 receipts for planes chartered by Larry King with five-to-eight unnamed passengers, and I’ve read the book carefully. I can think of no innocent explanation for why King would be flying children, some of them spirited out of the Catholic orphanage Boys Town, around the United States, mostly to Washington. I’ve listened to Nick at great length on the phone about all of this as he was reporting. I have listened to him in the immediate aftermath of strange phone calls and death threats over the years.

    This isn’t “conspiracy theory.” It’s one of the best investigative books I’ve ever read. If it’s true, then there are significant elements in America’s ruling class that are depraved beyond Caligula’s dreams. And I don’t see how it isn’t true.

    King’s partner in crime in Washington appears to have been a man named Craig Spence, surely one of the oddest figures in the history of American politics. Once a correspondent for ABC in Vietnam, Spence subsequently made a living blackmailing rightwing politicians in Japan. In Washington, he had a large house that he used for parties. The house was bugged from floor to ceiling, and he often seemed to be in possession of information he could have learned only from the bugs. He bragged about his CIA connections. He was also in possession of White House china, proudly and illegally displayed in his house, that he likely grabbed on midnight tours of the George H. W. Bush White House. “Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush,” was the headline in the June 29, 1989 Washington Times. Sub-headline: “Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.” Spence, according to the article, was the organizer. Later articles said that Spence had been the tour guide on three more occasions and had a 15-year-old boy with him. At least one victim of the Omaha ring, Paul Bonacci, says he went on a late-night tour of the White House. Spence committed a convenient suicide later that year.

    Craig Spence was a gay version of Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked young boys to powerful individuals in the DC establishment. He also held sexual “parties” at his house, which was bugged.

    In 1989, Craig Spence committed “suicide.” His “suicide” came shortly after his White House prostitution ring was uncovered.

    Reminds you of Jeffrey Epstein, who also ran a prostitution ring and then committed “suicide.”

    https://apnews.com/b23c2d81176c8d92a2f5069039bdc0b0

    BOSTON (AP) _ Craig Spence, a high-profile lobbyist linked to a Washington sex scandal under federal investigation, was found dead after barricading himself in a hotel room, police said Saturday.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre, JMcG
    • Replies: @Cortes
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Paco Wové
    @JohnnyWalker123

    May I politely encourage you to get your own fucking blog?

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer

  20. Or, take the custodian who cleans the classrooms and how quickly nasty things get without him: think what would happen to him if all he did was talk about how important it is to have tidy buildings but never emptied the trash cans.

    In a lot of modern organizations, what would happen to him is they would hire a new custodian to empty the trash cans and promote the big talker to management to oversee the newly created custodial team.

  21. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1223732716157460480

    Replies: @Lot, @bomag, @HammerJack, @Moses, @Reg Cæsar

    Doesn’t she realize that she’s already the preferred candidate of people who know and care about “identity-affirming curricula”?

    As for “educator workforce keep pace with demographics,” sounds like she wants to smash the teacher union imposed seniority system and minimum teacher standards that often results in 80% white teachers in 80% non-white districts.

    Warren is the most explicitly and extreme anti-white serious candidate for president in our history.

  22. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/NewsVortex/status/259719662160457728

    Here are excerpts from the above article.

    https://thewaronliberty.com/tag/craig-spence/


    A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington’s political elite, documents obtained by The Washington Times reveal.

     


    One of the ring’s high profile clients was so well-connected, in fact, that he could arrange a middle-of-the-night tour of the While House for his friends on Sunday, July 3, of last year. Among the six persons on the extraordinary 1 a.m. tour were two male prostitutes.

     


    Among the client names contained in the vouchers — and identified by prostitutes and escort operators –are government officials, locally based US military officers, businessmen, lawyers, bankers, congressional aides, and other professionals.

     


    One of the ring’s big-spending clients is Craig J. Spence, Washington socialite and international trade consultant, according to documents and interviews with operators and prostitutes who say they engaged in sexual activities with Mr. Spence.

    Mr. Spence spent upwards of $20,000 a month for male prostitutes who provided sex to him and his friends, said to include military personnel who also acted as his “body-guards.” It was Mr. Spence who arranged the nocturnal tour of the Reagan White House. Repeated attempts to reach Mr. Spence by telephone, fax machine and personal visits to his home, were unsuccessful.

     

    A major concern, said the former official with longtime ties to top-ranking military intelligence officers, was that hostile foreign intelligence services were using young male prostitutes to compromise top administration homosexuals, thus making them subject to blackmail.

    “We have known for many, many years that there is a department of the KGB [Soviet intelligence] whose job it is to prey on sexual deviants” said retired Lt. Gen. Daniel Graham, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    Because “closet” homosexuals in government service can easily be “turned” through blackmail for espionage purposes, Gen. Graham said. “we have always in intelligence tried very hard not to be giving classified information to known homosexuals.”
     
    So this "homosexual prostitution ring" blackmailed many men from the political class, military establishment, and surrounding DC swamp. Craig Spence (who was apart of the ring) was powerful enough to arrange tours of the White House during the middle of the night.

    https://twitter.com/karenricks/status/966664872623616006

    If you want to learn more about this scandal, watch this Discovery Channel documentary called "The Conspiracy of Silence." The documentary was produced by British journalists, who encountered a vast child trafficking network that operated out of Boystown in Omaha, Nebraska. This network was used in blackmail operations involving the elite of Washington DC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKjv_200J4

    Counterpunch had an article on this too.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years

    I should also say that I’ve looked at his evidence, listened to interviews, sorted through 200 receipts for planes chartered by Larry King with five-to-eight unnamed passengers, and I’ve read the book carefully. I can think of no innocent explanation for why King would be flying children, some of them spirited out of the Catholic orphanage Boys Town, around the United States, mostly to Washington. I’ve listened to Nick at great length on the phone about all of this as he was reporting. I have listened to him in the immediate aftermath of strange phone calls and death threats over the years.

    This isn’t “conspiracy theory.” It’s one of the best investigative books I’ve ever read. If it’s true, then there are significant elements in America’s ruling class that are depraved beyond Caligula’s dreams. And I don’t see how it isn’t true.
     

    King’s partner in crime in Washington appears to have been a man named Craig Spence, surely one of the oddest figures in the history of American politics. Once a correspondent for ABC in Vietnam, Spence subsequently made a living blackmailing rightwing politicians in Japan. In Washington, he had a large house that he used for parties. The house was bugged from floor to ceiling, and he often seemed to be in possession of information he could have learned only from the bugs. He bragged about his CIA connections. He was also in possession of White House china, proudly and illegally displayed in his house, that he likely grabbed on midnight tours of the George H. W. Bush White House. “Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush,” was the headline in the June 29, 1989 Washington Times. Sub-headline: “Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.” Spence, according to the article, was the organizer. Later articles said that Spence had been the tour guide on three more occasions and had a 15-year-old boy with him. At least one victim of the Omaha ring, Paul Bonacci, says he went on a late-night tour of the White House. Spence committed a convenient suicide later that year.

     

    Craig Spence was a gay version of Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked young boys to powerful individuals in the DC establishment. He also held sexual "parties" at his house, which was bugged.

    In 1989, Craig Spence committed "suicide." His "suicide" came shortly after his White House prostitution ring was uncovered.

    Reminds you of Jeffrey Epstein, who also ran a prostitution ring and then committed "suicide."

    https://apnews.com/b23c2d81176c8d92a2f5069039bdc0b0

    BOSTON (AP) _ Craig Spence, a high-profile lobbyist linked to a Washington sex scandal under federal investigation, was found dead after barricading himself in a hotel room, police said Saturday.

     

    Replies: @Cortes, @Paco Wové

    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Cortes


    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

     

    No, different Larry King. A black guy.

    Here's another interesting scandal.

    The Presidio military base.


    https://twitter.com/capricorn1860/status/811042143619923969

    The FBI is investigating allegations that 37 or more children were molested at a child-care center at the Presidio Army base here since mid-1985, authorities said Monday.

    At least four children contracted chlamydia, a common, treatable venereal disease, Presidio spokesman Bob Mahoney said. Another child initially tested positive for exposure to the acquired immune deficiency syndrome virus, but a more reliable test showed no infection.

    “It is an extensive investigation regarding child molestation at the Presidio,” FBI spokesman John Holford said. “The agents are still conducting interviews and collecting evidence.”

    “Because of the long period of time in which this case concerns itself, we simply don’t know how many children are involved,” said Col. Joseph V. Rafferty, commander of the base, which overlooks the Golden Gate.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

  23. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    Hillsdale is great as Howard mentions.

    Red state public universities and Christian colleges without giant football programs are another option.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Lot

    Red State Us are often among the worst as they're still trying to keep up with the prestigious Joneses and nowadays that means DIE whitey and all sorts of other fads they're not nearly as well equipped to survive as the big boys. Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

    Hillsdale is fine but has its own issues and not everyone in the whole country can go to one small school. I wouldn't be surprised to see some rays of post-progtard light emerging soon from some unexpected places. Until then only go to college if you've got a really good idea of what you want from it. No shame at all in a trade, and you'll often get more out of college with some experience under your belt first if you do decide to go later.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  24. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it’s literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the “more people should go into the trades”. It’s great… for somebody else’s kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn’t get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.

    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn’t bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you’re better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing…) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Not My Economy

    Hillsdale seems kind of like a typical pastoral college without the big teams or the more expensive industrial-science departments (lack of imposing tomographic equipment and whatnot) -- of course, if they don't accept fed $$$, or comply with Title IX, Project DEITY, or any of these other exciting edu-biz trends, I'd expect some difference in the daily experience there, even if subtle.

    Then again, dumb hormonal kids tend to act the same anywhere, regardless of SAT score or whatever eccentric ideas the college founders had. So Hillsdale's probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

    If parents weren't as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route, with the requirement on Junior or Princess to save up at least half the room & board cost for their first transfer year. Encouraging 19-year-olds' living in overpriced dorms to watch TV and do drugs in between about 3-4 hours of class time every day is a poisonous yuppie ritual with questionable benefit toward "networking" after graduation.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @bomag
    @Not My Economy


    Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn’t get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.
     
    From personal experience and internet chatter, that is changing. The Woke are damaging the elite college brand, so it is a chance for alternatives to rise.
    , @donvonburg
    @Not My Economy

    Each of the really rigorous small Christian or military-oriented schools will have known to its alumni a small number of employers who only hire out of that particular school or out of a small and defined number of similar, small, rigorous schools. Usually they are privately owned, clannish, and under-the-radar type places, but usually they pay well and once you pass a probation period and get along with the decisionmakers you have a job for life. Usually there is an unspoken requirement or expectation that you will attend their type of churches and participate in some activities they hold to be beneficial.

    Often they are accounting, insurance, or real estate management firms. They will usually have some little niche no one much thinks about that they do very well in because there are significant but ill-understood or ill-defined barriers to entry or because consistently turning a profit requires a very intricate level of knowledge of some arcane market. Often they go to some lengths to keep the general public in the dark as to what exactly it is that they do.

    If you want a stable work environment and are comfortable in that environment, it can be a good career. Usually those companies tend to be pretty vertically oriented so there are a lot of things you will get to do whereas many will be outsourced in other companies.

    , @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    @Not My Economy

    And are students getting high paying jobs at large corporations? Doesn't seem like it. Business, Law, STEM may (even business and law is questionable). Look at the student debt crisis. If most students were getting high paying jobs in big corporations the debt crisis wouldn't happen. These dumbass degree people are not getting any jobs.

    So now that that's off the list, I guess sex is the only reason to go to university? Is that worth a 100k ethnic studies degree? From what I noticed, anyways, the amount of sex and partying people did correlated inversely with their future income (with the exception of business).

    You need a clear path and a plan for your future going into uni. Going just for "sex" is not enough, long term, and you're likely to end up 100k in debt.

  25. New CV numbers are out.

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Worst news is just how many Wuhan to USA/EU travelers there were. New one confirmed today in NYC.

    The very first US case was feeling “fatigue” on the transpacific plane flight, started coughing the next day, had extreme symptoms 4 days after landing when he went to the hospital.

    • Replies: @trelane
    @Lot

    What about the two HIV-1 insertions detected in 2019-nCoV suggesting this virus was man-made at Wuhan in Hubei province?

    Replies: @Lot

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lot


    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.
     
    Not anymore:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-chinese-city-bars-residents-leaving-their-homes-hong-kong-workers-demand-city

    I love you Corona-Chan!
    , @HammerJack
    @Lot


    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.
     
    Well, that didn't last long. Philippines and many more to come.

    The whole thing has been so predictable, in virtually every detail. Why didn't we stop the flights weeks ago?


    Trump was going to catch hell from the Dems and the media no matter what he did. BFD.

    Was he worried about business interests? The worse this pans out, the worse it'll be for business too.


    Also OT: Tucker was on fire again last night.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-defeated

  26. @Lot
    New CV numbers are out.

    https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1223776744622166016

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Worst news is just how many Wuhan to USA/EU travelers there were. New one confirmed today in NYC.

    The very first US case was feeling “fatigue” on the transpacific plane flight, started coughing the next day, had extreme symptoms 4 days after landing when he went to the hospital.

    Replies: @trelane, @The Wild Geese Howard, @HammerJack

    What about the two HIV-1 insertions detected in 2019-nCoV suggesting this virus was man-made at Wuhan in Hubei province?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @trelane

    Bad study design, that’s been debunked.

  27. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    I don’t know if it’s any good but St John’s College focuses on the great books curriculum, which emphasizes Western Civilization.

    https://www.sjc.edu/academic-programs/undergraduate/great-books-reading-list

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @istevefan

    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Pericles

  28. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1223732716157460480

    Replies: @Lot, @bomag, @HammerJack, @Moses, @Reg Cæsar

    That also means investing in identity-affirming curricula, so that students see themselves in their school work… all year long.

    Wow.

    “Judge not by the content of the curriculum; judge by the color of the characters.”

    I wonder if White kids will get to study White curricula.

  29. @trelane
    @Lot

    What about the two HIV-1 insertions detected in 2019-nCoV suggesting this virus was man-made at Wuhan in Hubei province?

    Replies: @Lot

    Bad study design, that’s been debunked.

  30. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    I have a deep attachment to the liberal arts and sciences and to the university (as a physical place). But you’re correct, AD. They are so corrupted that taking them apart (with the hope of being able to put them back together in the future) is the only way forward.

  31. @istevefan
    @AnotherDad

    I don't know if it's any good but St John's College focuses on the great books curriculum, which emphasizes Western Civilization.

    https://www.sjc.edu/academic-programs/undergraduate/great-books-reading-list

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @MBlanc46

    I can't imagine reading that much. I don't know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible, I don't know how one can read all of those books in the given time.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    , @Pericles
    @MBlanc46


    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

     

    Yeah, where are all the important feminists and strong women of color?? Though I'm somewhat skeptical that the run of the mill undergraduate these days go through the works in the previous list in any depth. Perhaps not at all?

    Personally, I'd probably prefer even fewer works with more attention paid to each. For instance, 37 items in the first year might well be too much. And in normie world, long mandatory reading lists of increasingly marginal writers (Margaret Atwood! Joss Whedon!) just encourage skimming.

    Afterwards, if any work of interest turns out to be missing, you can now read it on your own.
  32. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/01/29/warren-proposes-criminal-penalties-for-spreading-disinformation-online.html

    I know Senator Warren has to pander to the sjw tard crowd but man she actually believes the “Putin hijacked the election narrative” nonsense and wants to censor political opinion online?

    No wonder Chomsky doesn’t vote any more……if the MSM believes the Russia stole the election crap and then believes that that matters then there is no hope for them to return to reality.

  33. Are you beginning to grasp the circularity in play?

    Indeed, circular logic is a sign of the new DIETY.

  34. anon[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    — espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    “Courtship”? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles? How do you think “courtship” works online?

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn’t 1980-something anymore.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anon

    He's talking about someone settling up an old fashioned university. Presumably that would involve an in parentis loco policy, on-campus single sex dorms, curfews, and dialing back or eliminating online dating and hookups in favor of meeting fellow students for longer term relationships.

    There are Christian campuses that do this. The College of the Ozarks is an example. They don't take federal money, and they make every student work for tuition, room, and board, including over part of the break, and the rest comes from its endowment.

    All the kids in the family bluegrass band The Petersons attended Ozarks, and they seem remarkably well adjusted to me (lots of YouTube interviews and vlogs of them). Read the Wikipedia entry on the college, keeping in mind that Wikipedia writers go out of their way to make such institutions sound creepy.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Desiderius
    @anon


    “Courtship”? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles?
     
    Yes. It's the new thing. I'd be kind of embarassed if I weren't up on it.

    How do you think “courtship” works online?
     
    Offline.

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.
     
    No. It's entirely conscious.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn’t 1980-something anymore.
     
    Bubble burst long ago. You should try it, you might like it, Mr. CurrentYear.
  35. istevefan says:
    @MBlanc46
    @istevefan

    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Pericles

    I can’t imagine reading that much. I don’t know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible, I don’t know how one can read all of those books in the given time.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @istevefan


    I can’t imagine reading that much. I don’t know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible,
     
    A full-time student - someone intelligent enough to be a student - should have no problem reading 10 books a semester, in addition to whatever work he may have in other classes. It isn’t that hard.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  36. If that math professor thinks that teaching math is culturally neutral now, he’d better find a more modern textbook, and bone-up on woke “ethnomathematics,” or start looking for a new career. Scalia questioned, how can there be a diversity approach to teaching physics, but that horse has left the barn.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @SafeNow

    He (or she!!) should hurry up if he's in Seattle.



    Is Seattle really teaching that “math is racist”? Why did parents start to see ideas for math lessons that go far beyond numbers and into questions of identity?

    These and other questions erupted on Twitter last week, shortly after Seattle Public Schools released a draft of new learning objectives that integrate ethnic studies into math, and after conservative news outlets began berating the district.

     

    https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/

    The draft: https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudies/pubdocs/Math%20SDS%20ES%20Framework.pdf

    Questions of particular mathematical interest (p.3) include: Who is a Mathematician? Where does Power and Oppression show up in our math experiences? How is math manipulated to allow inequality and oppression to persist? How has math been used to resist and liberate people and communities of color from oppression?
  37. @Lot
    New CV numbers are out.

    https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1223776744622166016

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Worst news is just how many Wuhan to USA/EU travelers there were. New one confirmed today in NYC.

    The very first US case was feeling “fatigue” on the transpacific plane flight, started coughing the next day, had extreme symptoms 4 days after landing when he went to the hospital.

    Replies: @trelane, @The Wild Geese Howard, @HammerJack

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Not anymore:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-chinese-city-bars-residents-leaving-their-homes-hong-kong-workers-demand-city

    I love you Corona-Chan!

  38. @Cortes
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

    No, different Larry King. A black guy.

    Here’s another interesting scandal.

    The Presidio military base.

    The FBI is investigating allegations that 37 or more children were molested at a child-care center at the Presidio Army base here since mid-1985, authorities said Monday.

    At least four children contracted chlamydia, a common, treatable venereal disease, Presidio spokesman Bob Mahoney said. Another child initially tested positive for exposure to the acquired immune deficiency syndrome virus, but a more reliable test showed no infection.

    “It is an extensive investigation regarding child molestation at the Presidio,” FBI spokesman John Holford said. “The agents are still conducting interviews and collecting evidence.”

    “Because of the long period of time in which this case concerns itself, we simply don’t know how many children are involved,” said Col. Joseph V. Rafferty, commander of the base, which overlooks the Golden Gate.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The suspect in the Presidio child abuse scandal of the mid-198os is Lt. Colonel Michael Aquino, an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army. His specialty was psychological warfare. He was involved with an outre religious order called Temple of Set.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Since this is still going on I should post the Fox Island documentary. It's pretty good but a bit airy and exploitative, which fits because it's made by a local news outfit relying on their own archives. One memory-holed fact it does a good job of fleshing out is that the reason the so-called Satanic Panic and Stranger Danger phenomena happened in the 80s was the explosion of cult activity, serial killers, kidnapping, pedophilia, and dead child bodies discovered by the side of the road all over the 70s. This is about Michigan, but of course things like this were happening in California and New York, and anyone who has read David Peace's Red Riding Quartet or seen the beginning of that one Sean Connery movie will see parallels.
    Five 45 minute segments, I'm not going to link all but the others should be in the sidebar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIM2vfGEnRc

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  39. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Charles Murray in discussing male-female differences in Human Diversity eventually gets around to “Is There a Sex Difference in g?” He goes through a bunch of research and then concludes, “My own sense is that the possibility of a trivial sex difference in g is still in play, but the demonstration of a meaningful one is not.”

    There is a endnote to that paragraph dealing with the debate in recent years, after Richard Lynn reopened the discussion. the final sentence of the endnote is “For a recent article with new data and an overview of previous research, see Arribas-Aguila, Abad, and Colom (2019).” Arribas is a Spanish psychometrician and co-author of some pre-employment tests.

    The Arribas-Aguila, et al., article’s abstract explains that they used an n=10,000 database to test the previously proposed theory that girls would test higher in their tweens or early teens than boys, but by the late teens boys would test higher, with the possible explanation being that girls develop earlier than boys, but that boys catch up, with larger brains in the end.

    The last line of the abstract is “There were null sex differences at 12 years of age, but there was an average difference favoring boys equivalent to 5 IQ points at 18 years of age.”

    That’s a third of a standard deviation gap.

    I wonder if this slid in at the last second and Murray couldn’t change the book’s text. But I think not. Overall I detect a strategy on his part of not only, as he says in the introduction, being very conservative and only passing along widely accepted facts, but also holding a few gotcha cards in his hand to use when challenged, at least about the most radioactive topics, of which any male-female IQ gap or variance difference certainly is one.

  40. The best demonstration of Parkinson’s Law is at Berkeley, which even provides a handy flowchart in case one is confused about whether to contact the Equity and Inclusion peoplx, the Excellence and Equity peoplx or the Equity and Success peoplx:

    https://diversity.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/ei_jul2017_final_7-1-17.pdf

    Berkeley also graduates blacks at the same rate as every flyover country JuCo. Equity in action! Six years for an American Studies degree is understandable, though, when the campus climate is so oppressive and the vending machines in the union are always out of Flamin’ Hot Cheetos. The only concrete achievement any Department of Diversity can brag of is wealth transfers to a handful (or in Cal’s case, one hundred fifty!) assorted mocha-skinned homos and angry mulattas.

    Unless they’re in academia now, or have just- and I mean just– gotten out, I doubt even the most cynical observers on the right understand how deep the rot’s gotten. These aren’t even make-work jobs. They sit around in an office all day giving each other awards for Equity or Access or whatever; maybe once a week they send out a typo-riddled reminder that someone from Morehouse is coming to talk about Equity or Access or whatever and PLEASE ADVICE, THEIR’S FREE PIZZA.

    …and of course, every full-fledged diversity commissar has three or four levels under them, and every single fucking person hits ‘reply all.’ Alongside the ads for sunglasses and dickpills you get from Chinese and Indian students’ compromised accounts, your inbox ends up looking like something from AOL circa 1996.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @More R1b, Less H1B


    https://diversity.berkeley.edu/
     
    Suddenly I have an idea for a new name for the university. Probably every university..
  41. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Not My Economy
    @AnotherDad

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it's literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the "more people should go into the trades". It's great... for somebody else's kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn't get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.


    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn't bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you're better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing...) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @donvonburg, @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Hillsdale seems kind of like a typical pastoral college without the big teams or the more expensive industrial-science departments (lack of imposing tomographic equipment and whatnot) — of course, if they don’t accept fed $$$, or comply with Title IX, Project DEITY, or any of these other exciting edu-biz trends, I’d expect some difference in the daily experience there, even if subtle.

    Then again, dumb hormonal kids tend to act the same anywhere, regardless of SAT score or whatever eccentric ideas the college founders had. So Hillsdale’s probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

    If parents weren’t as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route, with the requirement on Junior or Princess to save up at least half the room & board cost for their first transfer year. Encouraging 19-year-olds’ living in overpriced dorms to watch TV and do drugs in between about 3-4 hours of class time every day is a poisonous yuppie ritual with questionable benefit toward “networking” after graduation.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Anonymous


    If parents weren’t as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route
     
    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they're quite worthless. The faculty are just as "woke" and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Anonymous


    So Hillsdale’s probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

     

    We Calvinists visited Hillsdale, and seriously considered it as an option for Daughter C. I work in higher ed, and my impression is that Hillsdale really is quite different from a run-of-the-mill liberal arts college. Since Hillsdale doesn't accept federal money, and hence can avoid a significant amount of government meddling in its curriculum, hiring practics, and admissions, it seems genuinely conservative in a way almost no other colleges can be. Their admissions/academic standards are also significantly higher than average; it seems like a fairly rigorous place.

    On the sports side, though, they offer the full slate of NCAA Division III options. My impression is that sports are still a pretty big deal there.
  42. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1223732716157460480

    Replies: @Lot, @bomag, @HammerJack, @Moses, @Reg Cæsar

    Has she seen any of the “curricula” in our schools for the past, say, fifty years?

    It doesn’t really matter, does it.
    Window dressing.

  43. @Lot
    New CV numbers are out.

    https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1223776744622166016

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Worst news is just how many Wuhan to USA/EU travelers there were. New one confirmed today in NYC.

    The very first US case was feeling “fatigue” on the transpacific plane flight, started coughing the next day, had extreme symptoms 4 days after landing when he went to the hospital.

    Replies: @trelane, @The Wild Geese Howard, @HammerJack

    Best news is still no non-China deaths out of ~200 confirmed cases.

    Well, that didn’t last long. Philippines and many more to come.

    The whole thing has been so predictable, in virtually every detail. Why didn’t we stop the flights weeks ago?

    Trump was going to catch hell from the Dems and the media no matter what he did. BFD.

    Was he worried about business interests? The worse this pans out, the worse it’ll be for business too.

    Also OT: Tucker was on fire again last night.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-defeated

  44. Parkinson’s Law: “Work expands to fill the time available for its completion.”

    Parkinson’s Law + Disease: “Work expands, and becomes shakier.”

    • LOL: Cortes
  45. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/1187879194228908032

    https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1199092707701997568

    Here's an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They're called "The Finders."

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 "well-dressed" adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, "The Finders" apparently were a"Satanic Cult" and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of "alternative lifestyle" commune called "The Finders." The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn't believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the "free love" lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a "rite of passage into a Satanic organization."

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of "blood rituals." In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in "white robes." The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of "international market for children."

    Apparently, in their DC home, "The Finders" had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as "The Game Caller" and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie's wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of "The Finders."

    Oddly, "The Finders" sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxim5-PS9tE&t=76s

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @trelane, @Reg Cæsar, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused.

    You can guess why they were brought to Tallahassee, of all places:

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Reg Cæsar


    The Most Phallic Building in the World

     

    WRONG

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/University_of_Michigan_August_2013_033_%28Lurie_Tower%29.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Kansas City's Liberty Memorial would probably be considered more phallic on this planet, inasmuch as human penises tend to be of circular or ovoid cross section. On Planet Squarepenis, though, that'd do it.

    https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kcur/files/styles/x_large/public/201704/LibertyMemorialImage_0.jpg

  46. @Andy
    of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Bigdicknick

    of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?

    Yes, we should be making our own dollar store crap.

    American robots need work!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, dollar store crap like iPhones and 5G telephone switches.

    Low end manufacturing has not been profitable in the US for many decades. You can trace the history of low cost manufacturing when you pick up things like kitchen utensils, cheap hand tools, bicycles, etc. - before they were made in China they were made in Taiwan and before that in Japan. In each case eventually that country's labor costs made the manufacturers look for an even lower labor cost country. That process is still ongoing and now dollar store crap increasingly comes from places like Vietnam and Cambodia instead of China.

    Dollar store crap manufacturing is never coming back to America. That's not the problem. We don't want those jobs anyway. Increasingly the problem is that even the most sophisticated manufacturing has been shifted to China and we couldn't bring it back here even if we wanted to because the whole support infrastructure is gone. If you are in Shenzen and you want to build some new electronic doohickey, there is a whole ecosystem to support you. You need some part, you need skilled labor, you need a machine to make a part, you need some electrical engineers? They are all there at your fingertips and you can be cranking out your new device in no time.

    To do the same thing in America is like pulling teeth just because the infrastructure is mostly gone and even if you get past that part, now you have to start dealing with the EPA and the "activists" who don't want you siting your factory in their neighborhood or else demanding that you hire minorities instead of the most qualified people and the union organizers and so on and so on until you want to tear your hair out. Meanwhile you could have an easy life - call up some China supply chain guys and container loads of the finished item will be at the port sooner than you could get your building permit in America.

    And for middle level stuff like cars, auto parts, tractors, air conditioners and so on, $300/month is a lot better than the $2,000/month you have to pay an American worker:

    https://www.tecma.com/mexico-wages-labor-costs/

    Replies: @Anonymous

  47. Someone at Saturday Night Live noticed that black intellectual scholarship quickly devolves into a list of personal slights.

  48. Anonymous[617] • Disclaimer says:

    On a somewhat related note ……

    Way, way back in the 1970s, ‘professional Yorkshireman’, Michael Parkinson, had a popular Saturday evening ‘chat show’ broadcast regularly on BBC TV, (in those days we only had three TV channels, mind you), which gained quite a following and big viewing figures.

    That well known American actress/singer Bette Midler was a guest on his show, and her performance therein gained considerable notoriety in the UK, due to her being slightly ‘off her head’ during proceedings. In fact the late, great British comedian Kenny Everett based a long running stock character on this incident.

    Anyhow, Bette Midler was questioned sometime later about her appearance on the ‘Parkinson Show’.

    ‘Parkinson….?’ – was her reply – ‘…. Is that a disease…?’

    Whereupon the interviewer collapsed into hilarity.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I remember that! As an impressionable lad just beginning to notice ladies I was most impressed with her, ah, talents. It was around 1979-80, we had it on tape. (We were fairly early adopters of VHS).

    This from the show:

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/02/74/8a/02748a0534323dd4df4cae1bc7c19fb0--bette-midler-lauren-bacall.jpg

  49. Charles M Lieber data on the transition in American Academia form Jewish+White to Asian+Other.

    Lieber has a web site that links to his publications from ’84 to ’19, from the names of his co authors you can see the transition over a few decades.

    https://cml.harvard.edu/publications

    https://cml.harvard.edu/people

    So why is Lieber under arrest for his connections to a Chinese University when all the key people in his US lab are likely from that University? BTW, If I were the gov I would not piss off Lieber as he could probably get a job tomorrow anywhere in the world, and his majority Chinese staff would likely follow him so you might set his research back a few years at best.

  50. @Not My Economy
    @AnotherDad

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it's literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the "more people should go into the trades". It's great... for somebody else's kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn't get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.


    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn't bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you're better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing...) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @donvonburg, @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn’t get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.

    From personal experience and internet chatter, that is changing. The Woke are damaging the elite college brand, so it is a chance for alternatives to rise.

  51. @Not My Economy
    @AnotherDad

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it's literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the "more people should go into the trades". It's great... for somebody else's kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn't get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.


    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn't bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you're better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing...) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @donvonburg, @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Each of the really rigorous small Christian or military-oriented schools will have known to its alumni a small number of employers who only hire out of that particular school or out of a small and defined number of similar, small, rigorous schools. Usually they are privately owned, clannish, and under-the-radar type places, but usually they pay well and once you pass a probation period and get along with the decisionmakers you have a job for life. Usually there is an unspoken requirement or expectation that you will attend their type of churches and participate in some activities they hold to be beneficial.

    Often they are accounting, insurance, or real estate management firms. They will usually have some little niche no one much thinks about that they do very well in because there are significant but ill-understood or ill-defined barriers to entry or because consistently turning a profit requires a very intricate level of knowledge of some arcane market. Often they go to some lengths to keep the general public in the dark as to what exactly it is that they do.

    If you want a stable work environment and are comfortable in that environment, it can be a good career. Usually those companies tend to be pretty vertically oriented so there are a lot of things you will get to do whereas many will be outsourced in other companies.

  52. @MBlanc46
    @istevefan

    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Pericles

    That’s some great literature, but it’s really insufficient for even undergraduates.

    Yeah, where are all the important feminists and strong women of color?? Though I’m somewhat skeptical that the run of the mill undergraduate these days go through the works in the previous list in any depth. Perhaps not at all?

    Personally, I’d probably prefer even fewer works with more attention paid to each. For instance, 37 items in the first year might well be too much. And in normie world, long mandatory reading lists of increasingly marginal writers (Margaret Atwood! Joss Whedon!) just encourage skimming.

    Afterwards, if any work of interest turns out to be missing, you can now read it on your own.

  53. @SafeNow
    If that math professor thinks that teaching math is culturally neutral now, he’d better find a more modern textbook, and bone-up on woke “ethnomathematics,” or start looking for a new career. Scalia questioned, how can there be a diversity approach to teaching physics, but that horse has left the barn.

    Replies: @Pericles

    He (or she!!) should hurry up if he’s in Seattle.

    Is Seattle really teaching that “math is racist”? Why did parents start to see ideas for math lessons that go far beyond numbers and into questions of identity?

    These and other questions erupted on Twitter last week, shortly after Seattle Public Schools released a draft of new learning objectives that integrate ethnic studies into math, and after conservative news outlets began berating the district.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/

    The draft: https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudies/pubdocs/Math%20SDS%20ES%20Framework.pdf

    Questions of particular mathematical interest (p.3) include: Who is a Mathematician? Where does Power and Oppression show up in our math experiences? How is math manipulated to allow inequality and oppression to persist? How has math been used to resist and liberate people and communities of color from oppression?

  54. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @AnotherDad

    — espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    "Courtship"? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles? How do you think "courtship" works online?

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn't 1980-something anymore.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius

    He’s talking about someone settling up an old fashioned university. Presumably that would involve an in parentis loco policy, on-campus single sex dorms, curfews, and dialing back or eliminating online dating and hookups in favor of meeting fellow students for longer term relationships.

    There are Christian campuses that do this. The College of the Ozarks is an example. They don’t take federal money, and they make every student work for tuition, room, and board, including over part of the break, and the rest comes from its endowment.

    All the kids in the family bluegrass band The Petersons attended Ozarks, and they seem remarkably well adjusted to me (lots of YouTube interviews and vlogs of them). Read the Wikipedia entry on the college, keeping in mind that Wikipedia writers go out of their way to make such institutions sound creepy.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    He’s talking about someone settling up an old fashioned university.

    Yes, I know. Examples such as Grove City already exist. But either AD doesn't know or somehow they don't measure up to his fantasy.

    Presumably that would involve an in parentis loco policy, on-campus single sex dorms, curfews, and dialing back or eliminating online dating and hookups in favor of meeting fellow students for longer term relationships.

    Sure, and a total blackout of all Internet connectivity, too. Should totally work.

    There are Christian campuses that do this.

    There are any number of less expensive small liberal arts colleges scattered across the country. Many of them associated with a Christian denomination; there are Baptist and Methodist and Lutheran schools all across the midwest, up the west coast, all across the South. Somehow AD can't see them. Probably because he's not really looking, he's just having a fantasy bemoaning the modern world.

    Plus it has never been easier in history to read great books. Never. And do so without going to Amazon, either. Goodreads, Gutenberg, etc. make it trivial to find different translations of Aristotle and Molire. Most people won't do it. Why?

    The fact is most people don't benefit from real 4 year college. Because most people don't have an IQ of 115 to 120. Forcing average people into college hasn't worked out well. My friend the diesel mechanic makes pretty good money, he's supporting his three kids and his wife. Not enough for you? Not good enough? Because he never read Dante he's an inferior flyover specimen?

    Desidarius

    @anon


    “Courtship”? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles?
     
    Yes. It’s the new thing. I’d be kind of embarassed if I weren’t up on it.

    Lol. If "courtship" is the new thing outside of some really small church bubbles why isn't it visible? Lots of people sitiin' on the front porch for a while before goin' down to the malt shop? How does "courtship" work when the average American women gets married at 27? Does she just sit on her parents front porch for 8 - 10 years ? Or is something else going on?

    A friend of mine got married in the Army. How should he have "courted" his wife, when they were both out of CONUS? Her parents are divorced and live in different states, which front porch should they have been sitting on while they "courted"? What if his mother lives in an apartment with her new husband, and got no front porch, that means he didn't properly "court" her so they shouldn't be married according to you?

    Muh COURTING, lol.


    How do you think “courtship” works online?
     
    Offline.

    In a bubble.The bubble where you live, inside your head. In the real world more and more people meet a future spouse online via services. Most definitely including devout Christians; a girl in a church of 100 people in smalltown flyover who isn't into missionary dating doesn't have much choice. Are you embarrassed that you do not know this?


    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.
     
    No. It’s entirely conscious.

    Are you Another Dad? Or are you just trying to pretend to be?


    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn’t 1980-something anymore.
     
    Bubble burst long ago. You should try it, you might like it, Mr. CurrentYear.

    OK Boomer! Yeah, I know you are GenX, but on the pompousness scale you are Boomer qualified.

    What did your wife do with her purity ring ?
    Oh, and how's your bro Josh Harris doing these days?
     

  55. @Anonymous
    @Not My Economy

    Hillsdale seems kind of like a typical pastoral college without the big teams or the more expensive industrial-science departments (lack of imposing tomographic equipment and whatnot) -- of course, if they don't accept fed $$$, or comply with Title IX, Project DEITY, or any of these other exciting edu-biz trends, I'd expect some difference in the daily experience there, even if subtle.

    Then again, dumb hormonal kids tend to act the same anywhere, regardless of SAT score or whatever eccentric ideas the college founders had. So Hillsdale's probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

    If parents weren't as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route, with the requirement on Junior or Princess to save up at least half the room & board cost for their first transfer year. Encouraging 19-year-olds' living in overpriced dorms to watch TV and do drugs in between about 3-4 hours of class time every day is a poisonous yuppie ritual with questionable benefit toward "networking" after graduation.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @The Last Real Calvinist

    If parents weren’t as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route

    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they’re quite worthless. The faculty are just as “woke” and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Dr. X

    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they’re quite worthless. The faculty are just as “woke” and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.


    I can attest to this. I tutored one semester at a Community College - sample conversation ( I am not making this up)
    "During the Pacific war , the American strategy of island hopping ..." Yo, teach, what was the Pacific War ? "The Pacific War was the conflict between America and Japan during WW2" Woah, you sayin' America had a war with Japan ? "Yes, indeed they did"
    No Shit, Who won?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dr. X

  56. @More R1b, Less H1B
    The best demonstration of Parkinson's Law is at Berkeley, which even provides a handy flowchart in case one is confused about whether to contact the Equity and Inclusion peoplx, the Excellence and Equity peoplx or the Equity and Success peoplx:

    https://diversity.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/ei_jul2017_final_7-1-17.pdf

    Berkeley also graduates blacks at the same rate as every flyover country JuCo. Equity in action! Six years for an American Studies degree is understandable, though, when the campus climate is so oppressive and the vending machines in the union are always out of Flamin' Hot Cheetos. The only concrete achievement any Department of Diversity can brag of is wealth transfers to a handful (or in Cal's case, one hundred fifty!) assorted mocha-skinned homos and angry mulattas.

    Unless they're in academia now, or have just- and I mean just- gotten out, I doubt even the most cynical observers on the right understand how deep the rot's gotten. These aren't even make-work jobs. They sit around in an office all day giving each other awards for Equity or Access or whatever; maybe once a week they send out a typo-riddled reminder that someone from Morehouse is coming to talk about Equity or Access or whatever and PLEASE ADVICE, THEIR'S FREE PIZZA.

    ...and of course, every full-fledged diversity commissar has three or four levels under them, and every single fucking person hits 'reply all.' Alongside the ads for sunglasses and dickpills you get from Chinese and Indian students' compromised accounts, your inbox ends up looking like something from AOL circa 1996.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    https://diversity.berkeley.edu/

    Suddenly I have an idea for a new name for the university. Probably every university..

  57. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/NewsVortex/status/259719662160457728

    Here are excerpts from the above article.

    https://thewaronliberty.com/tag/craig-spence/


    A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington’s political elite, documents obtained by The Washington Times reveal.

     


    One of the ring’s high profile clients was so well-connected, in fact, that he could arrange a middle-of-the-night tour of the While House for his friends on Sunday, July 3, of last year. Among the six persons on the extraordinary 1 a.m. tour were two male prostitutes.

     


    Among the client names contained in the vouchers — and identified by prostitutes and escort operators –are government officials, locally based US military officers, businessmen, lawyers, bankers, congressional aides, and other professionals.

     


    One of the ring’s big-spending clients is Craig J. Spence, Washington socialite and international trade consultant, according to documents and interviews with operators and prostitutes who say they engaged in sexual activities with Mr. Spence.

    Mr. Spence spent upwards of $20,000 a month for male prostitutes who provided sex to him and his friends, said to include military personnel who also acted as his “body-guards.” It was Mr. Spence who arranged the nocturnal tour of the Reagan White House. Repeated attempts to reach Mr. Spence by telephone, fax machine and personal visits to his home, were unsuccessful.

     

    A major concern, said the former official with longtime ties to top-ranking military intelligence officers, was that hostile foreign intelligence services were using young male prostitutes to compromise top administration homosexuals, thus making them subject to blackmail.

    “We have known for many, many years that there is a department of the KGB [Soviet intelligence] whose job it is to prey on sexual deviants” said retired Lt. Gen. Daniel Graham, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    Because “closet” homosexuals in government service can easily be “turned” through blackmail for espionage purposes, Gen. Graham said. “we have always in intelligence tried very hard not to be giving classified information to known homosexuals.”
     
    So this "homosexual prostitution ring" blackmailed many men from the political class, military establishment, and surrounding DC swamp. Craig Spence (who was apart of the ring) was powerful enough to arrange tours of the White House during the middle of the night.

    https://twitter.com/karenricks/status/966664872623616006

    If you want to learn more about this scandal, watch this Discovery Channel documentary called "The Conspiracy of Silence." The documentary was produced by British journalists, who encountered a vast child trafficking network that operated out of Boystown in Omaha, Nebraska. This network was used in blackmail operations involving the elite of Washington DC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKjv_200J4

    Counterpunch had an article on this too.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years

    I should also say that I’ve looked at his evidence, listened to interviews, sorted through 200 receipts for planes chartered by Larry King with five-to-eight unnamed passengers, and I’ve read the book carefully. I can think of no innocent explanation for why King would be flying children, some of them spirited out of the Catholic orphanage Boys Town, around the United States, mostly to Washington. I’ve listened to Nick at great length on the phone about all of this as he was reporting. I have listened to him in the immediate aftermath of strange phone calls and death threats over the years.

    This isn’t “conspiracy theory.” It’s one of the best investigative books I’ve ever read. If it’s true, then there are significant elements in America’s ruling class that are depraved beyond Caligula’s dreams. And I don’t see how it isn’t true.
     

    King’s partner in crime in Washington appears to have been a man named Craig Spence, surely one of the oddest figures in the history of American politics. Once a correspondent for ABC in Vietnam, Spence subsequently made a living blackmailing rightwing politicians in Japan. In Washington, he had a large house that he used for parties. The house was bugged from floor to ceiling, and he often seemed to be in possession of information he could have learned only from the bugs. He bragged about his CIA connections. He was also in possession of White House china, proudly and illegally displayed in his house, that he likely grabbed on midnight tours of the George H. W. Bush White House. “Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush,” was the headline in the June 29, 1989 Washington Times. Sub-headline: “Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.” Spence, according to the article, was the organizer. Later articles said that Spence had been the tour guide on three more occasions and had a 15-year-old boy with him. At least one victim of the Omaha ring, Paul Bonacci, says he went on a late-night tour of the White House. Spence committed a convenient suicide later that year.

     

    Craig Spence was a gay version of Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked young boys to powerful individuals in the DC establishment. He also held sexual "parties" at his house, which was bugged.

    In 1989, Craig Spence committed "suicide." His "suicide" came shortly after his White House prostitution ring was uncovered.

    Reminds you of Jeffrey Epstein, who also ran a prostitution ring and then committed "suicide."

    https://apnews.com/b23c2d81176c8d92a2f5069039bdc0b0

    BOSTON (AP) _ Craig Spence, a high-profile lobbyist linked to a Washington sex scandal under federal investigation, was found dead after barricading himself in a hotel room, police said Saturday.

     

    Replies: @Cortes, @Paco Wové

    May I politely encourage you to get your own fucking blog?

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    @Paco Wové

    If you don't like it, scroll past it.

    Leave the rest of us to talk to each other in peace.

  58. @istevefan
    @MBlanc46

    I can't imagine reading that much. I don't know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible, I don't know how one can read all of those books in the given time.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    I can’t imagine reading that much. I don’t know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible,

    A full-time student – someone intelligent enough to be a student – should have no problem reading 10 books a semester, in addition to whatever work he may have in other classes. It isn’t that hard.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Wilkey

    It was an eye-opener when I got to Manchester U to study Economic History for a year and we were expected to read a book a week per class (and be prepared to discuss it in a tutorial of four students) after the relatively thin gruel of the American engineering curriculum at Ga Tech (which of course we were endlessly told was the most rigorous around). I discovered that my Brit friends at UMIST had a similarly heavy workload.

    Things had deteriorated from there by the time I arrived at an Ivy grad school in the early '00s.

    But yeah, you get used to it. Best year (intellectually) of my life.

  59. @Not My Economy
    @AnotherDad

    >But i think there’s a real opportunity for a conservative “Western Civ U.” institution
    >This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy.

    This already exists and it's literally not appealing at all to anybody other than very right wing people. Muh Hillsdale College is like the "more people should go into the trades". It's great... for somebody else's kids. Conservative prodigies like Kyle Kashuv and Ben Shapiro didn't get funneled into Hillsdale, they went to Harvard. Tells you everything you need to know.


    Your Western Civ U will be appealing to the extent that it provides a pipeline to good paying jobs with big corporations. This and sex is what people are going to college for. I wouldn't bet on being able to provide that under the banner of Western Civilization University.

    Basically, you're better off getting together as many right wing corporate hiring managers as you can find (what.. why is everybody laughing...) and get them to secretly agree to hire people that come out of AnotherDad Technical University. Then you can quietly teach whatever you want and nobody will care.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @donvonburg, @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    And are students getting high paying jobs at large corporations? Doesn’t seem like it. Business, Law, STEM may (even business and law is questionable). Look at the student debt crisis. If most students were getting high paying jobs in big corporations the debt crisis wouldn’t happen. These dumbass degree people are not getting any jobs.

    So now that that’s off the list, I guess sex is the only reason to go to university? Is that worth a 100k ethnic studies degree? From what I noticed, anyways, the amount of sex and partying people did correlated inversely with their future income (with the exception of business).

    You need a clear path and a plan for your future going into uni. Going just for “sex” is not enough, long term, and you’re likely to end up 100k in debt.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  60. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1223732716157460480

    Replies: @Lot, @bomag, @HammerJack, @Moses, @Reg Cæsar

    If the Indian gets in the White House run for the hills, White People.

  61. @AnotherDad
    As i've said before i think the real "win" will be a move away from the physical university to on-line learning and certification testing for most folks.

    But i think there's a real opportunity for a conservative "Western Civ U." institution that
    -- teaches the tradition--circa 1960--Western Civ cirriculum with no apology (no diversity b.s.)
    -- encourages either practical career oriented majors or serious liberal arts scholarship
    and
    -- espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families--white or Asian--not even necesssarily "right wing", just not crazy.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lot, @Not My Economy, @istevefan, @MBlanc46, @anon, @kikz

    agreed/online. most uni’s today espouse the ‘real-estate’ model, and charge excessive fees for on-campus room-board/parking, it is ridiculous, even for commuter students. even for tech schools such as @ UTDallas many of the degrees have mandated SJW/socialist/commie filler courses, and is abysmal in its online course offerings.

    there does seem to be much work needed (very limited utility)in the decentralized/online dating/courtship models/apps available, as most are simply hook-up sites. even such as match.com (two highly discriminating daughters w/subscriptions), e-harmony, xtian match, etc., which supposedly are for those seeking long-term relationships/marriage/family, are fraught w/scams/players, hordes of ‘substandard offerings’ and ineffective filter algorithms. needless to say, they have been underwhelmed at local offerings w/in a 100mi radius of DFW proper.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @kikz

    Online dating sites like match.com don't work very well for finding serious relationships. When you go on there and email the two or three women you are really interested in at the same time there are other guys who are sending out fifty or a hundred emails. When the women look in their email inboxes and see a lot of emails they can't tell which guys are the ones seriously interested in them. These sites are designed for guys who like to indiscriminately email multiple women and female attention junkies who like getting lots of email.

    Colleges were traditionally a good place to find a mate but the increasingly liberal atmosphere makes them undesirable to attend now. It was also better when they were smaller because you came into regular contact with the same people and they could observe you on a regular basis and form a more accurate picture of what you are like. Having a good idea of someone's character is important when picking a long term romantic partner.

  62. Most if not all of the groid agenda is a series of bloviating hot air attacks about imaginary/inconsequential incidents and/or false/ incorrect/misinformed/uninformed viewpoints on actual incidents–all intended to keep YT on the defensive so YT doesn’t raise the very real and major aspects of groid dysfunction.

  63. @Andy
    of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Bigdicknick

    Just look at south Africa, the answer is never.

  64. @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy


    of course, diversity is a racket, but at what point the US will realize the economic waste generated by all this useless jobs is making the US less competitive vis-a-vis China?
     
    Yes, we should be making our own dollar store crap.

    American robots need work!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yeah, dollar store crap like iPhones and 5G telephone switches.

    Low end manufacturing has not been profitable in the US for many decades. You can trace the history of low cost manufacturing when you pick up things like kitchen utensils, cheap hand tools, bicycles, etc. – before they were made in China they were made in Taiwan and before that in Japan. In each case eventually that country’s labor costs made the manufacturers look for an even lower labor cost country. That process is still ongoing and now dollar store crap increasingly comes from places like Vietnam and Cambodia instead of China.

    Dollar store crap manufacturing is never coming back to America. That’s not the problem. We don’t want those jobs anyway. Increasingly the problem is that even the most sophisticated manufacturing has been shifted to China and we couldn’t bring it back here even if we wanted to because the whole support infrastructure is gone. If you are in Shenzen and you want to build some new electronic doohickey, there is a whole ecosystem to support you. You need some part, you need skilled labor, you need a machine to make a part, you need some electrical engineers? They are all there at your fingertips and you can be cranking out your new device in no time.

    To do the same thing in America is like pulling teeth just because the infrastructure is mostly gone and even if you get past that part, now you have to start dealing with the EPA and the “activists” who don’t want you siting your factory in their neighborhood or else demanding that you hire minorities instead of the most qualified people and the union organizers and so on and so on until you want to tear your hair out. Meanwhile you could have an easy life – call up some China supply chain guys and container loads of the finished item will be at the port sooner than you could get your building permit in America.

    And for middle level stuff like cars, auto parts, tractors, air conditioners and so on, $300/month is a lot better than the $2,000/month you have to pay an American worker:

    https://www.tecma.com/mexico-wages-labor-costs/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

  65. @Wilkey
    @istevefan


    I can’t imagine reading that much. I don’t know if you clicked through the entire list, but each semester appears to have around 10 of those major books. So you are looking at 80 major works. When you include things like War and Peace and the entire Bible,
     
    A full-time student - someone intelligent enough to be a student - should have no problem reading 10 books a semester, in addition to whatever work he may have in other classes. It isn’t that hard.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    It was an eye-opener when I got to Manchester U to study Economic History for a year and we were expected to read a book a week per class (and be prepared to discuss it in a tutorial of four students) after the relatively thin gruel of the American engineering curriculum at Ga Tech (which of course we were endlessly told was the most rigorous around). I discovered that my Brit friends at UMIST had a similarly heavy workload.

    Things had deteriorated from there by the time I arrived at an Ivy grad school in the early ’00s.

    But yeah, you get used to it. Best year (intellectually) of my life.

  66. @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    Hillsdale is great as Howard mentions.

    Red state public universities and Christian colleges without giant football programs are another option.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Red State Us are often among the worst as they’re still trying to keep up with the prestigious Joneses and nowadays that means DIE whitey and all sorts of other fads they’re not nearly as well equipped to survive as the big boys. Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

    Hillsdale is fine but has its own issues and not everyone in the whole country can go to one small school. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some rays of post-progtard light emerging soon from some unexpected places. Until then only go to college if you’ve got a really good idea of what you want from it. No shame at all in a trade, and you’ll often get more out of college with some experience under your belt first if you do decide to go later.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Desiderius


    Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

     

    This is unfortunately just what we found when we were college-hunting. The next decade or two are going to be hard going for a lot of Christian -- and 'Christian' -- colleges. They are being forced to emerge from the cultural sort-of-safe space they've operated in for many years, and declare themselves to be serious -- or not -- about living up to their mission statements, their denominational mandates, and the trust of their students' parents.

    Rod Dreher writes a lot of hit-and-miss stuff, but I think he's right on the mark on this subject.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

  67. @anon
    @AnotherDad

    — espouses/promotes/enforces traditional male/female dating/courtship leading to marriage.

    "Courtship"? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles? How do you think "courtship" works online?

    This would have a lot of appeal to a lot of middle class families–white or Asian–not even necesssarily “right wing”, just not crazy

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn't 1980-something anymore.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius

    “Courtship”? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles?

    Yes. It’s the new thing. I’d be kind of embarassed if I weren’t up on it.

    How do you think “courtship” works online?

    Offline.

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    No. It’s entirely conscious.

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn’t 1980-something anymore.

    Bubble burst long ago. You should try it, you might like it, Mr. CurrentYear.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • LOL: Kevin O'Keeffe
  68. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve often wondered if the highest echelons of the accounting departments of the biggest, wokest corporations have a secret set of books(available only to upper management) that spell out the cost of diversity(in terms of paying the consultants/grifters/HR hires) vs the benefits (fending off lawsuits). I’d be curious to know how much NAM diversity companies like Google and Apple think they can afford.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    The CEO, CFO, Legal Counsel, and one trusted business analyst could mange this project. Or they can out-source to a legal consultant. I've been in the room a few times when people at the top speak frankly about what they are doing and why. If a corporation is embarking on a large diversity program in order to avoid law suits and bad publicity (which is the only reason to do it) they would have to discuss "how much diversity is enough" and run the numbers to calculate the costs of the options.
    Though I wonder if Google truly understood what they were getting into with their full on "woke" culture or yet understand the full cost to their "real work" productivity.

    , @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Anonymous

    Great ? and I’ve often wondered the same thing. I’ve had a front-row seat in my little nook of business in household-name level Mega-Corp.
    4 years ago, my specific function hired a VP who told us all, at our biannual conference, her sole goal was promoting more women into manager roles. That was it, we’d get no less and no more from her than that. Deal with it.
    As such, tons of bright, ambitious supervisors (next step down before Manager) found the door had been shut and left to the competition. As it happens, a lot of hiring is done through referral networks so many of the supervisors I knew all ended up at one particular competitor. All were the B+ to A+ rockstars that companies NEED to win.
    I’m SURE that my co noticed their absence, but for a host of reasons never got around to explicitly turning that exodus into dollars and cents (who would they present such findings to, anyway? He VP that caused it?)
    OTOH, though, the competitor co must have very clearly seen the resulting bump that next year. There are various bonuses etc that would reveal it. They almost certainly have formally identified the cost of diversity

    , @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Whenever I roll out my lumpeneinsicht that your typical business billionaire is a shmo who had one good idea, but the sweat and spine to follow through on it, the response is usually that your Gilberts and Bloombergs are masters of focus and instantly sizing things up. They know in the first sentences of the presentation what they will decide. In other words, they now minimally stand at one good idea, followthrough, plus vision. It would therefore be truly interesting if they did not know what is so obvious to so many people, even without a second set of books. But consider the payoff: the torture, hassling, and limitation of their potential competition. For whom would life improve were we to boat the worst blacks to Africa (and certain worst-case squeaky wheels on the next El-Al flight)? Not them, they're already there.

  69. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Finders are almost certainly not a "proper" cult (in other words, there really are Mormons and Scientologists who sincerely believe in Mormonism and Scientology), they're probably the pedophile equivalent of the CIA's off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail. Penn Jillette will tell you there's no such thing as Satanism, but he will also tell you that as an atheist the one point at which he can sort of understand introducing religion is when you're an overwhelmed new parent having to rely on the threat of invisible babysitters to control the kids. Cultic appearances would also scare away botherers and create legal protections, ie, this is our religion, never mind the goats. The goats aren't there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they're to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki-- for the children.
    There's an extremely good documentary, which doesn't get into black helicopters or cult stuff, but which does help to make real the surprisingly large and active child trafficking situation at the time:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WLg5RJzBM
    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @JohnnyWalker123, @Thatgirl

    “the pedophile equivalent of the CIA’s off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. … children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail”

    The most diabolical aspect of espionage work.

    “the real weird stuff”

    Like ritual rape and murder. Blood sacrifice is an ancient human rite, found in all religions. In the Western world, Christianity has its Satanic underbelly, and the Jews have their Sabbatean-Frankist sect. These black magic cults have grown tendrils into the European, Israeli, and American intelligence agencies.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  70. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/1187879194228908032

    https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1199092707701997568

    Here's an interesting cult that you may have heard about. They're called "The Finders."

    Back in February of 1987, six unkempt children were found in a park in Tallahassee during an early morning. The children were dirty, bitten by bugs, and malnourished. They were in the company of 2 "well-dressed" adult men. Apparently, the children and men were originally from Washington D.C.

    The Tallahassee police arrested the two men, who claimed they were taking the children to Mexico. After the arrest, the DC police were contacted. According to DC police, "The Finders" apparently were a"Satanic Cult" and had been on their radar for a while.

    These men and children apparently belonged to some type of "alternative lifestyle" commune called "The Finders." The total membership of the organization was 20 adults and 7 children. The cult didn't believe in private property. They also kept their children out of the schooling system. There was some evidence that they were into the "free love" lifestyle too.

    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused. The children were found to be unaware of modern technology (tv, hot water, electricity, etc). The children were also not being fed regularly.

    It gets even more disturbing. The Tallahassee police believed that these children had been given away by their parents, as a "rite of passage into a Satanic organization."

    After doing some research into them, the police raided their house in Washington D.C. The police found pictures of goats that the cult had slaughtered, as well as evidence of "blood rituals." In the pictures, the naked children were standing next to the slaughtered goats, while adults stood around in "white robes." The police believed the slaughter was some type of Satanic ritual.

    The DC police found evidence that indicated the cult was selling child pornography and involved in some type of "international market for children."

    Apparently, in their DC home, "The Finders" had computers (equipped with e-mail), floppy disks, and other types of very advanced computing equipment. Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare. So how would an eccentric cult gain access to these devices (and why would they need them)?

    The leader of the cult was Marion Pettie. The children referred to Mr. Pettie as "The Game Caller" and had apparently been brainwashed by him.

    Upon further investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Pettie's wife (Isabelle Pettie) had worked for the CIA for a decade back during the 50s.

    Even more interesting. It was discovered that a CIA-controlled company (which conducted for its computer training for its officers) happened to employ members of "The Finders."

    Oddly, "The Finders" sent one of their members to Japan to conduct corporate espionage against a number of their companies.

    The DC police and Tallahassee police were taken off the case. They were told that any investigation into the group was “a CIA internal matter.” So the CIA and FBI decided to investigate the case themselves. After looking at the matter, the CIA and FBI decided that there was nothing to story and closed down the case.

    You can watch a video about this below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxim5-PS9tE&t=76s

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @trelane, @Reg Cæsar, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare.

    A pretty significant segment of the White American middle class owned home computers in 1987. Not a majority, no, and they were often used a lot less (or primarily by kids), but the characterization of “hardly anybody“, is grossly inaccurate.

    The skills necessary to access internet-based email, presumably through the old FIDOnet, would hardly be beyond the capabilities of a tech-saavy BBS sysop in 1987. Advanced stuff, yes, but hardly groundbreaking. One of the “Finders” was a nerd, apparently.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kevin O'Keeffe


    A pretty significant segment of the White American middle class owned home computers in 1987. Not a majority, no, and they were often used a lot less (or primarily by kids), but the characterization of “hardly anybody“, is grossly inaccurate.

     

    In 1984, 8.2% of American households owned a computer. By 1989, that had risen to 15.0%. The internet didn't become public until 1991. So my characterization is reasonably accurate.

    For a typical American family in 1987, owning computers, floppy disks, other types of advanced computing equipment, and internet connectivity devices would've been unusual. For a bizarre cult of eccentrics, it would've been utterly astonishing.

    The skills necessary to access internet-based email, presumably through the old FIDOnet, would hardly be beyond the capabilities of a tech-saavy BBS sysop in 1987. Advanced stuff, yes, but hardly groundbreaking. One of the “Finders” was a nerd, apparently.

     

    Only a remarkably small percentage of Americans would have those type of computer skills in the 80s. Even today, only a few could do that sort of thing.

    How would a bunch of super bizarre cultists be able to learn, understand, and handle such advanced equipment? There is no logical explanation.

    The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult's leader was a former Air Force Sergeant. The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult leader's wife was a CIA officer for a decade, while his son was employed as a CIA pilot. The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult members worked for a CIA-owned company.
  71. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Cortes


    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

     

    No, different Larry King. A black guy.

    Here's another interesting scandal.

    The Presidio military base.


    https://twitter.com/capricorn1860/status/811042143619923969

    The FBI is investigating allegations that 37 or more children were molested at a child-care center at the Presidio Army base here since mid-1985, authorities said Monday.

    At least four children contracted chlamydia, a common, treatable venereal disease, Presidio spokesman Bob Mahoney said. Another child initially tested positive for exposure to the acquired immune deficiency syndrome virus, but a more reliable test showed no infection.

    “It is an extensive investigation regarding child molestation at the Presidio,” FBI spokesman John Holford said. “The agents are still conducting interviews and collecting evidence.”

    “Because of the long period of time in which this case concerns itself, we simply don’t know how many children are involved,” said Col. Joseph V. Rafferty, commander of the base, which overlooks the Golden Gate.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

    The suspect in the Presidio child abuse scandal of the mid-198os is Lt. Colonel Michael Aquino, an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army. His specialty was psychological warfare. He was involved with an outre religious order called Temple of Set.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The "Temple of Set" was a schismatic offshoot of Anton LaVey's Church of Satan. Aquino's complaint boiled down to that LaVey was actually a Jew (he was-Howard Stanton Levey was his birth name) and that the name "Satan" was Hebraic. That LaVey was actually a Jew (with some, amount uncertain, Gypsy admixture) was something Aquino should have known from the first, and surely did. The whole thing was sufficiently famous that Revilo Oliver made a comment on it at least once.

    Unlike LaVey, who gave off a carny barker vibe, Aquino was said by people who met him to be a genuinely scary person.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  72. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I've often wondered if the highest echelons of the accounting departments of the biggest, wokest corporations have a secret set of books(available only to upper management) that spell out the cost of diversity(in terms of paying the consultants/grifters/HR hires) vs the benefits (fending off lawsuits). I'd be curious to know how much NAM diversity companies like Google and Apple think they can afford.

    Replies: @anon, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @J.Ross

    The CEO, CFO, Legal Counsel, and one trusted business analyst could mange this project. Or they can out-source to a legal consultant. I’ve been in the room a few times when people at the top speak frankly about what they are doing and why. If a corporation is embarking on a large diversity program in order to avoid law suits and bad publicity (which is the only reason to do it) they would have to discuss “how much diversity is enough” and run the numbers to calculate the costs of the options.
    Though I wonder if Google truly understood what they were getting into with their full on “woke” culture or yet understand the full cost to their “real work” productivity.

  73. @Anonymous
    I've often wondered if the highest echelons of the accounting departments of the biggest, wokest corporations have a secret set of books(available only to upper management) that spell out the cost of diversity(in terms of paying the consultants/grifters/HR hires) vs the benefits (fending off lawsuits). I'd be curious to know how much NAM diversity companies like Google and Apple think they can afford.

    Replies: @anon, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @J.Ross

    Great ? and I’ve often wondered the same thing. I’ve had a front-row seat in my little nook of business in household-name level Mega-Corp.
    4 years ago, my specific function hired a VP who told us all, at our biannual conference, her sole goal was promoting more women into manager roles. That was it, we’d get no less and no more from her than that. Deal with it.
    As such, tons of bright, ambitious supervisors (next step down before Manager) found the door had been shut and left to the competition. As it happens, a lot of hiring is done through referral networks so many of the supervisors I knew all ended up at one particular competitor. All were the B+ to A+ rockstars that companies NEED to win.
    I’m SURE that my co noticed their absence, but for a host of reasons never got around to explicitly turning that exodus into dollars and cents (who would they present such findings to, anyway? He VP that caused it?)
    OTOH, though, the competitor co must have very clearly seen the resulting bump that next year. There are various bonuses etc that would reveal it. They almost certainly have formally identified the cost of diversity

  74. @Dr. X
    @Anonymous


    If parents weren’t as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route
     
    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they're quite worthless. The faculty are just as "woke" and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they’re quite worthless. The faculty are just as “woke” and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.

    I can attest to this. I tutored one semester at a Community College – sample conversation ( I am not making this up)
    “During the Pacific war , the American strategy of island hopping …” Yo, teach, what was the Pacific War ? “The Pacific War was the conflict between America and Japan during WW2” Woah, you sayin’ America had a war with Japan ? “Yes, indeed they did”
    No Shit, Who won?

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @kaganovitch

    Don't give up. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Replies: @Cortes

    , @Dr. X
    @kaganovitch

    I don't doubt the veracity of your anecdote for a second. Community college students really don't know when World War II was, or the Civil War, or who fought, or why. (They do know who Kim Kardashian slept with and who the fastest running back is, though). I used to poll my students on the first day of class -- "How many of you have read the U.S. Constitution?" Literally 99% had not -- yet all of them had been required to take high school government classes, and all of them were old enough to vote.

    I did have a few good students in community college, but they were a distinct minority -- about five per cent, and maybe ten per cent in a really good class. The vast majority of the time I spent teaching community college was a complete waste.

    If you really want to black-pill yourself on this country's future, enroll in some liberal arts classes at a community college...

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  75. The Diversity Parkinson’s Law: “Diversity work expands to fill the time of the staff added to the diversity payroll.”

    Your Fill the time of the staff is all wrong. Most diversity staff don’t have much to do. They are goofing off half the day, attending to personal business, doing errands, leaving the office early to pick up their kids at school and so on. Doing real diversity work (whatever that is) for very few hours per day.
    A very stress free job.

    Sure, there are some eager diversity beavers who manage to keep busy all day, somehow, with diversity work. Filling out forms, talking to distressed and micro-aggressed upon students, giving interviews to various media and websites. Doing some bogus, crap research, writing papers.

    Walk through any of these utter bullshit diversity offices (universities or corporate) and 60-70-80% off these useless eaters are female. Diversity is a female jobs racket.

    • Replies: @Michael W
    @Clyde

    Maybe a rare case, but I know one diversity worker who realized it was BS and went back to her old job.

    At one company where I worked we had a technical writer, a young black woman. She enjoyed her job, running around talking to engineers and product managers all day and then writing documentation. She apparently was good at it, too. But then HR contacted her and said we want you to be our "equal opportunity officer", a new position. I bumped into her a year later, she was looking to get back to a writing job. "I've got a nice title, but I don't actually DO anything!"

  76. @Anonymous
    I've often wondered if the highest echelons of the accounting departments of the biggest, wokest corporations have a secret set of books(available only to upper management) that spell out the cost of diversity(in terms of paying the consultants/grifters/HR hires) vs the benefits (fending off lawsuits). I'd be curious to know how much NAM diversity companies like Google and Apple think they can afford.

    Replies: @anon, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @J.Ross

    Whenever I roll out my lumpeneinsicht that your typical business billionaire is a shmo who had one good idea, but the sweat and spine to follow through on it, the response is usually that your Gilberts and Bloombergs are masters of focus and instantly sizing things up. They know in the first sentences of the presentation what they will decide. In other words, they now minimally stand at one good idea, followthrough, plus vision. It would therefore be truly interesting if they did not know what is so obvious to so many people, even without a second set of books. But consider the payoff: the torture, hassling, and limitation of their potential competition. For whom would life improve were we to boat the worst blacks to Africa (and certain worst-case squeaky wheels on the next El-Al flight)? Not them, they’re already there.

  77. @kaganovitch
    @Dr. X

    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they’re quite worthless. The faculty are just as “woke” and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.


    I can attest to this. I tutored one semester at a Community College - sample conversation ( I am not making this up)
    "During the Pacific war , the American strategy of island hopping ..." Yo, teach, what was the Pacific War ? "The Pacific War was the conflict between America and Japan during WW2" Woah, you sayin' America had a war with Japan ? "Yes, indeed they did"
    No Shit, Who won?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dr. X

    Don’t give up. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @J.Ross

    Capital!

  78. @kaganovitch
    @Dr. X

    I worked at several community colleges, and I can assure you that unless the student is enrolled in a very specific technical program like auto tech or dental hygiene, they’re quite worthless. The faculty are just as “woke” and diversity-obsessed as they are at four year schools, but a lot less qualified. Open admissions are a nightmare. I worked at one community college where 65% of the classes taught were non-credit, remedial classes. There are better students in high school AP than in most community college classes.


    I can attest to this. I tutored one semester at a Community College - sample conversation ( I am not making this up)
    "During the Pacific war , the American strategy of island hopping ..." Yo, teach, what was the Pacific War ? "The Pacific War was the conflict between America and Japan during WW2" Woah, you sayin' America had a war with Japan ? "Yes, indeed they did"
    No Shit, Who won?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dr. X

    I don’t doubt the veracity of your anecdote for a second. Community college students really don’t know when World War II was, or the Civil War, or who fought, or why. (They do know who Kim Kardashian slept with and who the fastest running back is, though). I used to poll my students on the first day of class — “How many of you have read the U.S. Constitution?” Literally 99% had not — yet all of them had been required to take high school government classes, and all of them were old enough to vote.

    I did have a few good students in community college, but they were a distinct minority — about five per cent, and maybe ten per cent in a really good class. The vast majority of the time I spent teaching community college was a complete waste.

    If you really want to black-pill yourself on this country’s future, enroll in some liberal arts classes at a community college…

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Dr. X

    If you really want to black-pill yourself on this country’s future, enroll in some liberal arts classes at a community college…

    It was, by orders of magnitude, the most miserably depressing job I ever had. Just an exercise in soul-deadening futility.

  79. @Clyde

    The Diversity Parkinson’s Law: “Diversity work expands to fill the time of the staff added to the diversity payroll.”
     
    Your Fill the time of the staff is all wrong. Most diversity staff don't have much to do. They are goofing off half the day, attending to personal business, doing errands, leaving the office early to pick up their kids at school and so on. Doing real diversity work (whatever that is) for very few hours per day.
    A very stress free job.

    Sure, there are some eager diversity beavers who manage to keep busy all day, somehow, with diversity work. Filling out forms, talking to distressed and micro-aggressed upon students, giving interviews to various media and websites. Doing some bogus, crap research, writing papers.

    Walk through any of these utter bullshit diversity offices (universities or corporate) and 60-70-80% off these useless eaters are female. Diversity is a female jobs racket.

    Replies: @Michael W

    Maybe a rare case, but I know one diversity worker who realized it was BS and went back to her old job.

    At one company where I worked we had a technical writer, a young black woman. She enjoyed her job, running around talking to engineers and product managers all day and then writing documentation. She apparently was good at it, too. But then HR contacted her and said we want you to be our “equal opportunity officer”, a new position. I bumped into her a year later, she was looking to get back to a writing job. “I’ve got a nice title, but I don’t actually DO anything!”

  80. @kikz
    @AnotherDad

    agreed/online. most uni's today espouse the 'real-estate' model, and charge excessive fees for on-campus room-board/parking, it is ridiculous, even for commuter students. even for tech schools such as @ UTDallas many of the degrees have mandated SJW/socialist/commie filler courses, and is abysmal in its online course offerings.

    there does seem to be much work needed (very limited utility)in the decentralized/online dating/courtship models/apps available, as most are simply hook-up sites. even such as match.com (two highly discriminating daughters w/subscriptions), e-harmony, xtian match, etc., which supposedly are for those seeking long-term relationships/marriage/family, are fraught w/scams/players, hordes of 'substandard offerings' and ineffective filter algorithms. needless to say, they have been underwhelmed at local offerings w/in a 100mi radius of DFW proper.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    Online dating sites like match.com don’t work very well for finding serious relationships. When you go on there and email the two or three women you are really interested in at the same time there are other guys who are sending out fifty or a hundred emails. When the women look in their email inboxes and see a lot of emails they can’t tell which guys are the ones seriously interested in them. These sites are designed for guys who like to indiscriminately email multiple women and female attention junkies who like getting lots of email.

    Colleges were traditionally a good place to find a mate but the increasingly liberal atmosphere makes them undesirable to attend now. It was also better when they were smaller because you came into regular contact with the same people and they could observe you on a regular basis and form a more accurate picture of what you are like. Having a good idea of someone’s character is important when picking a long term romantic partner.

  81. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused.
     
    You can guess why they were brought to Tallahassee, of all places:


    The Most Phallic Building in the World


    https://i.redd.it/7l10pnrbzqwy.jpg

    http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/events/phallic/fl_capitol.GIF

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Anonymous

    The Most Phallic Building in the World

    WRONG

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Oh, come on. Ann Arbor can't hold a [ahem] candle to nearby Ypsilanti:


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Phallic_Building_contest


    From Joe Sobran's hometown, I give you "The Brick Dick":




    https://live.staticflickr.com/6164/6179689375_f5d7395d33_b.jpg

  82. @Anonymous
    On a somewhat related note ......

    Way, way back in the 1970s, 'professional Yorkshireman', Michael Parkinson, had a popular Saturday evening 'chat show' broadcast regularly on BBC TV, (in those days we only had three TV channels, mind you), which gained quite a following and big viewing figures.

    That well known American actress/singer Bette Midler was a guest on his show, and her performance therein gained considerable notoriety in the UK, due to her being slightly 'off her head' during proceedings. In fact the late, great British comedian Kenny Everett based a long running stock character on this incident.

    Anyhow, Bette Midler was questioned sometime later about her appearance on the 'Parkinson Show'.

    'Parkinson....?' - was her reply - '.... Is that a disease...?'

    Whereupon the interviewer collapsed into hilarity.

    Replies: @Lurker

    I remember that! As an impressionable lad just beginning to notice ladies I was most impressed with her, ah, talents. It was around 1979-80, we had it on tape. (We were fairly early adopters of VHS).

    This from the show:

  83. @The Alarmist
    Isn't there a corallary to Parkinson's Law that the least diverse department in an organisation is the Diversity Department?

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro

    Human Resources is where the DIE (diversity inclusion equity) mandates are enforced. Since none of these activities have anything to do with generating value, they are typically staffed by the least competent members of the organization, typically affirmative action hires. So no. In my experience, these areas are pretty damned diverse.

  84. @Dr. X
    @kaganovitch

    I don't doubt the veracity of your anecdote for a second. Community college students really don't know when World War II was, or the Civil War, or who fought, or why. (They do know who Kim Kardashian slept with and who the fastest running back is, though). I used to poll my students on the first day of class -- "How many of you have read the U.S. Constitution?" Literally 99% had not -- yet all of them had been required to take high school government classes, and all of them were old enough to vote.

    I did have a few good students in community college, but they were a distinct minority -- about five per cent, and maybe ten per cent in a really good class. The vast majority of the time I spent teaching community college was a complete waste.

    If you really want to black-pill yourself on this country's future, enroll in some liberal arts classes at a community college...

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    If you really want to black-pill yourself on this country’s future, enroll in some liberal arts classes at a community college…

    It was, by orders of magnitude, the most miserably depressing job I ever had. Just an exercise in soul-deadening futility.

  85. @J.Ross
    @kaganovitch

    Don't give up. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Replies: @Cortes

    Capital!

  86. To follow up on an earlier exchange with the gentleman perplexed by U2’s handwringing about apartheid and my mention of Trevor Rabin – a Jew!: while those guys and everyone else were crying in their beer about Nelson Mandela, Rabin got on with writing “Owner of a Lonely Heart” and many other hits to become a hojillionaire via soul-stirring music about the universal and actual human condition.

    Diversity is our strength! (Shhhhh….don’t tell any one this collection of musical geniuses are all white guys from an island in the northern Atlantic Ocean and a (Jewish!) South African (more talented than any of the Negroes on the continent)…..

    Wait, wait…white guys have no rhythm; this example is ridiculous.

    Better to think of truly great rhythm sections:

    Michael Rutherford and Phil Collins

    Geddy Lee and Neil Peart

    John Paul Jones and John Bonham

    Roger Waters and Nick Mason

    John Myung and Mike Portnoy

    Pete Trewavas and Ian Moseley

    Eddie Jackson and Scott Rockenfeld

    Shit…. nevermind…..

  87. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The suspect in the Presidio child abuse scandal of the mid-198os is Lt. Colonel Michael Aquino, an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army. His specialty was psychological warfare. He was involved with an outre religious order called Temple of Set.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The “Temple of Set” was a schismatic offshoot of Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan. Aquino’s complaint boiled down to that LaVey was actually a Jew (he was-Howard Stanton Levey was his birth name) and that the name “Satan” was Hebraic. That LaVey was actually a Jew (with some, amount uncertain, Gypsy admixture) was something Aquino should have known from the first, and surely did. The whole thing was sufficiently famous that Revilo Oliver made a comment on it at least once.

    Unlike LaVey, who gave off a carny barker vibe, Aquino was said by people who met him to be a genuinely scary person.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    His full name was Anton Szandor LaVey.

    In the movie "Eyes Wide Shut," there's a character named Sandor Szavost. The movie features quite a few Satanic scenes.

    The film (which was directed by Stanley Kubrick) is rather interesting because it offers a glimpse into the forbidden world of elite prostitution, sex trafficking, child grooming, and Occult ritualism.

    There's one interesting scene in the film in which the Romanian Orthodox Divine Liturgy is played backward, while Occult rituals are performed. Prostitutes then disrobe and commence with an orgy.

    The movie features a masked party that's similar to a party that was held decades ago in a Rothschild mansion. The movie's party even takes place in a Rothschild mansion (which had been sold years before the movie was created) and shows the Rothschild family crest on the throne of Satanic priest.

    You can compare the two parties in the videos below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMlXey70XE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xqgBy12eM

    Later in the film, it's revealed that a secret elite trafficking network exists. This trafficking network sexually services the most wealthy, influential, and famous members at its debauched parties. The network also conducts various types of Occult religious practices. Interestingly, the network seems to be run by a wealthy local Jewish individual.

    At one point of the movie, it's implied that the "Windsor" family are somehow linked in with the trafficking network.

    Since the clients and operators of the network are so powerful, they're invulnerable. They have their hands on the levers of power, as well as various informants and assassins. If you should ever attempt to expose them, they'll ruin you or kill you.

    The movie ends with a small female child being kidnapped and forced into prostitution.

    Many believe that Kubrick was aware of these links between elites and Occult sex trafficking. Many believe that Kubrick (who died very shortly after completing the film) was killed for revealing these secrets.

    There's an interesting similarity between Epstein's floor pattern and that of the mansion in Eyes Wide Shut.

    https://twitter.com/mooncult/status/1166846334218817536

    Replies: @J.Ross

  88. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Which is pretty interesting because, back in 1987, hardly anybody owned computers and home e-mail was extremely rare.
     
    A pretty significant segment of the White American middle class owned home computers in 1987. Not a majority, no, and they were often used a lot less (or primarily by kids), but the characterization of "hardly anybody", is grossly inaccurate.

    The skills necessary to access internet-based email, presumably through the old FIDOnet, would hardly be beyond the capabilities of a tech-saavy BBS sysop in 1987. Advanced stuff, yes, but hardly groundbreaking. One of the "Finders" was a nerd, apparently.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    A pretty significant segment of the White American middle class owned home computers in 1987. Not a majority, no, and they were often used a lot less (or primarily by kids), but the characterization of “hardly anybody“, is grossly inaccurate.

    In 1984, 8.2% of American households owned a computer. By 1989, that had risen to 15.0%. The internet didn’t become public until 1991. So my characterization is reasonably accurate.

    For a typical American family in 1987, owning computers, floppy disks, other types of advanced computing equipment, and internet connectivity devices would’ve been unusual. For a bizarre cult of eccentrics, it would’ve been utterly astonishing.

    The skills necessary to access internet-based email, presumably through the old FIDOnet, would hardly be beyond the capabilities of a tech-saavy BBS sysop in 1987. Advanced stuff, yes, but hardly groundbreaking. One of the “Finders” was a nerd, apparently.

    Only a remarkably small percentage of Americans would have those type of computer skills in the 80s. Even today, only a few could do that sort of thing.

    How would a bunch of super bizarre cultists be able to learn, understand, and handle such advanced equipment? There is no logical explanation.

    The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult’s leader was a former Air Force Sergeant. The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult leader’s wife was a CIA officer for a decade, while his son was employed as a CIA pilot. The situation becomes even more bizarre when you consider that the cult members worked for a CIA-owned company.

  89. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, dollar store crap like iPhones and 5G telephone switches.

    Low end manufacturing has not been profitable in the US for many decades. You can trace the history of low cost manufacturing when you pick up things like kitchen utensils, cheap hand tools, bicycles, etc. - before they were made in China they were made in Taiwan and before that in Japan. In each case eventually that country's labor costs made the manufacturers look for an even lower labor cost country. That process is still ongoing and now dollar store crap increasingly comes from places like Vietnam and Cambodia instead of China.

    Dollar store crap manufacturing is never coming back to America. That's not the problem. We don't want those jobs anyway. Increasingly the problem is that even the most sophisticated manufacturing has been shifted to China and we couldn't bring it back here even if we wanted to because the whole support infrastructure is gone. If you are in Shenzen and you want to build some new electronic doohickey, there is a whole ecosystem to support you. You need some part, you need skilled labor, you need a machine to make a part, you need some electrical engineers? They are all there at your fingertips and you can be cranking out your new device in no time.

    To do the same thing in America is like pulling teeth just because the infrastructure is mostly gone and even if you get past that part, now you have to start dealing with the EPA and the "activists" who don't want you siting your factory in their neighborhood or else demanding that you hire minorities instead of the most qualified people and the union organizers and so on and so on until you want to tear your hair out. Meanwhile you could have an easy life - call up some China supply chain guys and container loads of the finished item will be at the port sooner than you could get your building permit in America.

    And for middle level stuff like cars, auto parts, tractors, air conditioners and so on, $300/month is a lot better than the $2,000/month you have to pay an American worker:

    https://www.tecma.com/mexico-wages-labor-costs/

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you’d spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It’s all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men’s and tampon dispensers in the women’s rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they’d drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn’t really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you’d have ‘quality fade’-they’d start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he’d made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler’s ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect…)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.

    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China…

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Anonymous

    Outstanding book. Comports exactly with my experiences in Asia.

    Chinese factory owners get pissed off when the customer is happy. It means they didn't chisel enough margin out of them.

    The US military brass and senior political leaders need to read this book. It shows the Chinese mentality -- cheating, lying, trying to get away with anything they can.

    The Chinese even have an idiom that goes like "If you can get away with cheating, do it".

    We are seeing the fruits of the Chinese way with the Corona virus outbreak they ignored for 6 weeks whilst arresting doctors who sounded the alarm.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Moses
    @Anonymous

    Paul Midler’s ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect…))

    Yes, he is.

    You can tell when he recounts how awful his trip to Philly which he uses as a springboard to wonder why "American society" (as represented by Philly) is so violent. Not once does he mention a 5 letter word that begins with "B" and ends with "k". Duh, come on.

    The other dumbfounding part of his book is when he contrasts the reception he gets when he stops in unannounced at a factory in China vs. a factory in the USA. The Chinese are always over-the-top solicitous of him, the American factory boss standoffish and suspicious of the guy who works in China.

    Come on - the Chinese see his Western face as a mark to be had. They would never treat a random Chinese stopping by the same way.

    For a guy who seems otherwise pretty smart, these two examples showed either idiocy or willful ignorance.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you’d spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain.

    I'm no expert on the subject, but from the areas that I do know something about,I think that's basically right. We Knives , which is a Chinese high end production knife maker, is pretty much just as expensive as Benchmade or other USA makers of similar quality. The higher end Chinese knife manufacturers (there are several) tend to have American, or at least European, designers too.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made
     
    Who said anything about GOOD stuff?

    I knew an Israeli guy whose had a business involving getting American manufacturers to close their factories and outsource their production to China. The private equity wizards who bought these old line family companies would hire him to do this. He once told me a story about a lock manufacturer that was one his clients - an old line Connecticut Valley brass mfr (brass mfring in the Connecticut Valley went back to colonial times). They told him that their locks were tested to 2 million cycles or something and that the samples that he sent them (which cost 1/4th of what it cost them to produce in the US) had failed after only 1 million cycles. And he told them "What do you care?"

    If you visit Home Depot today you will see this company's locks, bearing their familiar trademark but somewhere on the package, in small print, it says, "Made in China".

    There's a joke going around Asia now about the Coronavirus. People are saying that there's nothing to worry about - the epidemic won't last very long because it's "Made in China".

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China…
     
    Alibaba has 5,248 listings for AN fittings from China:

    https://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/an-fittings.html
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Sounds like American manufacturing in the 19th century. Because the manufacturing in our economy today is of the higher margin type that employs fewer people and relies on brand value for the pricing power that enables high margins, most Americans have no understanding of what it's like to have a manufacturing economy with lots of competition, lots of workers, and very low margins.

    http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/26/a_nation_of_outlaws/


    Taking a page from the British, who had pioneered many ingenious methods of adulteration a generation or two earlier, American manufacturers, distributors, and vendors of food began tampering with their products en masse -- bulking out supplies with cheap filler, using dangerous additives to mask spoilage or to give foodstuffs a more appealing color.

    A committee of would-be reformers who met in Boston in 1859 launched one of the first studies of American food purity, and their findings make for less-than-appetizing reading: candy was found to contain arsenic and dyed with copper chloride; conniving brewers mixed extracts of "nux vomica," a tree that yields strychnine, to simulate the bitter taste of hops. Pickles contained copper sulphate, and custard powders yielded traces of lead. Sugar was blended with plaster of Paris, as was flour. Milk had been watered down, then bulked up with chalk and sheep's brains. Hundred-pound bags of coffee labeled "Fine Old Java" turned out to consist of three-fifths dried peas, one-fifth chicory, and only one-fifth coffee.

    Though there was the occasional clumsy attempt at domestic reform by midcentury -- most famously in response to the practice of selling "swill milk" taken from diseased cows force-fed a diet of toxic refuse produced by liquor distilleries -- little changed. And just as the worst sufferers of adulterated food in China today are the Chinese, so it was the Americans who suffered in the early 19th-century United States. But when America started exporting food more broadly after the Civil War, the practice started to catch up to us.

    One of the first international scandals involved "oleo-margarine," a butter substitute originally made from an alchemical process involving beef fat, cattle stomach, and for good measure, finely diced cow, hog, and ewe udders. This "greasy counterfeit," as one critic called it, was shipped to Europe as genuine butter, leading to a precipitous decline in butter exports by the mid-1880s. (Wily entrepreneurs, recognizing an opportunity, bought up genuine butter in Boston, affixed counterfeit labels of British butter manufacturers, and shipped them to England.) The same decade saw a similar, though less unsettling problem as British authorities discovered that lard imported from the United States was often adulterated with cottonseed oil.

    Even worse was the meatpacking industry, whose practices prompted a trade war with several European nations. The 20th-century malfeasance of the industry is well known today: "deviled ham" made of beef fat, tripe, and veal byproducts; sausages made from tubercular pork; and, if Upton Sinclair is to be believed, lard containing traces of the occasional human victim of workplace accidents. But the international arena was the scene of some of the first scandals, most notably in 1879, when Germany accused the United States of exporting pork contaminated with trichinae worms and cholera. That led several countries to boycott American pork. Similar scares over beef infected with a lung disease intensified these trade battles.

    Food, of course, was only the beginning. In the literary realm, for most of the 19th century the United States remained an outlaw in the world of international copyright. The nation's publishers merrily pirated books without permission, and without paying the authors or original publishers a dime. When Dickens published a scathing account of his visit, "American Notes for General Circulation," it was, appropriately enough, immediately pirated in the United States.

    In one industry after another, 19th-century American producers churned out counterfeit products in remarkable quantities, slapping fake labels on locally made knockoffs of foreign ales, wines, gloves, and thread. As one expose at the time put it: "We have 'Paris hats' made in New York, 'London Gin' and 'London Porter' that never was in a ship's hold, 'Superfine French paper' made in Massachusetts."

    Counterfeiters of patent medicines were especially notorious. This was a bit ironic, given that most of these remedies were pretty spurious already, but that didn't stop the practice. The most elaborate schemes involved importing empty bottles, filling them with bogus concoctions, and then affixing fake labels from well-respected European firms.

    Americans also displayed a particular talent for counterfeiting currency. This was a time when individual banks, not the federal government, supplied the nation's paper money in a bewildering variety of so-called "bank notes." Counterfeiters flourished to the point that in 1862 one British writer, after counting close to 6,000 different species of counterfeit or fraudulent bills in circulation, could reasonably assure his readers that "in America, counterfeiting has long been practiced on a scale which to many will appear incredible."
     
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Huawei actually makes good products. Huawei is being blocked not just because of 5G and worries about potential spying, but also because it makes quite good final, assembled products now, namely smartphones, laptops, and other electronic consumer items. Huawei would take much of Samsung's market share in the US if it weren't blocked. The relative quality and appeal of Japanese products have stagnated or declined. Sony and the other Japanese companies don't really make anything better than Huawei and the other top Chinese companies make.

    There is actually a sub-culture in the US of audio engineers and audiophiles who are into "Chi-fi" or Chinese hi-fi because of the quality of the products:

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/7/20943377/chinese-hi-fi-audio-chifi-fiio-hifiman-tin-audio

    Replies: @J.Ross

  90. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Finders are almost certainly not a "proper" cult (in other words, there really are Mormons and Scientologists who sincerely believe in Mormonism and Scientology), they're probably the pedophile equivalent of the CIA's off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail. Penn Jillette will tell you there's no such thing as Satanism, but he will also tell you that as an atheist the one point at which he can sort of understand introducing religion is when you're an overwhelmed new parent having to rely on the threat of invisible babysitters to control the kids. Cultic appearances would also scare away botherers and create legal protections, ie, this is our religion, never mind the goats. The goats aren't there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they're to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki-- for the children.
    There's an extremely good documentary, which doesn't get into black helicopters or cult stuff, but which does help to make real the surprisingly large and active child trafficking situation at the time:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WLg5RJzBM
    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @JohnnyWalker123, @Thatgirl

    Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail.

    I have no idea how much these CIA-controlled assets actually believe in their bizarre Occult rituals, but they’re definitely engaging in deliberate blackmail, bribing powerful individuals, and hustling for money. Perhaps there’s a mix of true Occult believers and greedy/sadistic/perverted cynics. The cynics are the conduit between the cult and the official CIA.

    The goats aren’t there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they’re to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki– for the children.

    Creating traumatic experiences for the children is an important part of this. Through abuse and trauma, they’re trying to create dissociative identity disorder in the children. That makes it easier to control the children. When the children become adults, the control often continues. These children are basically MK Ultra assets, bereft of any free will.

    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    Larry King and Craig Spence were trafficking call boys to many powerful men in DC. King ended up in jail for many years (for unrelated financial fraud), while Spence committed “suicide.”

    The Discovery Channel made a documentary about this.

    Watch it here.

  91. Diversity jobs are just welfare for middle-class blacks.

  92. @Anonymous
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The "Temple of Set" was a schismatic offshoot of Anton LaVey's Church of Satan. Aquino's complaint boiled down to that LaVey was actually a Jew (he was-Howard Stanton Levey was his birth name) and that the name "Satan" was Hebraic. That LaVey was actually a Jew (with some, amount uncertain, Gypsy admixture) was something Aquino should have known from the first, and surely did. The whole thing was sufficiently famous that Revilo Oliver made a comment on it at least once.

    Unlike LaVey, who gave off a carny barker vibe, Aquino was said by people who met him to be a genuinely scary person.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    His full name was Anton Szandor LaVey.

    In the movie “Eyes Wide Shut,” there’s a character named Sandor Szavost. The movie features quite a few Satanic scenes.

    The film (which was directed by Stanley Kubrick) is rather interesting because it offers a glimpse into the forbidden world of elite prostitution, sex trafficking, child grooming, and Occult ritualism.

    There’s one interesting scene in the film in which the Romanian Orthodox Divine Liturgy is played backward, while Occult rituals are performed. Prostitutes then disrobe and commence with an orgy.

    The movie features a masked party that’s similar to a party that was held decades ago in a Rothschild mansion. The movie’s party even takes place in a Rothschild mansion (which had been sold years before the movie was created) and shows the Rothschild family crest on the throne of Satanic priest.

    You can compare the two parties in the videos below.

    Later in the film, it’s revealed that a secret elite trafficking network exists. This trafficking network sexually services the most wealthy, influential, and famous members at its debauched parties. The network also conducts various types of Occult religious practices. Interestingly, the network seems to be run by a wealthy local Jewish individual.

    At one point of the movie, it’s implied that the “Windsor” family are somehow linked in with the trafficking network.

    Since the clients and operators of the network are so powerful, they’re invulnerable. They have their hands on the levers of power, as well as various informants and assassins. If you should ever attempt to expose them, they’ll ruin you or kill you.

    The movie ends with a small female child being kidnapped and forced into prostitution.

    Many believe that Kubrick was aware of these links between elites and Occult sex trafficking. Many believe that Kubrick (who died very shortly after completing the film) was killed for revealing these secrets.

    There’s an interesting similarity between Epstein’s floor pattern and that of the mansion in Eyes Wide Shut.

    https://twitter.com/mooncult/status/1166846334218817536

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    EWS is a slog to defend (I instantly recognized the greenscreen in the stroll sequence; even with all the detail, it's still a movie that never would have done commercially well), but one thing it knocks out of the park is perfectly hiding deniable occult symbols in plain sight.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  93. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Reg Cæsar


    The Most Phallic Building in the World

     

    WRONG

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/University_of_Michigan_August_2013_033_%28Lurie_Tower%29.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, come on. Ann Arbor can’t hold a [ahem] candle to nearby Ypsilanti:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Phallic_Building_contest

    From Joe Sobran’s hometown, I give you “The Brick Dick”:

  94. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    “Anton Szandor LaVey” was the name he adopted and published under. Before that, he was a carnival and circus organist and had billed himself as “The Great Szandor”. He actually was a good theater organist and steam calliope player and much of what he claimed that he’d done he actually did. But he was born to a middle class family in Chicago as Howard Stanton Levey, he had had rheumatic fever as a young man and incurred serious heart damage, and he really did have affairs, or dalliances, with a few famous women, the most famous of which which anyone seriously believes was Jayne Mansfield.

    (He also claimed , among other unverifiable and probably imaginary exploits, to have had a relationship with Marilyn Monroe, after her divorce from Jim Dougherty when she was still going by her legal name of Norma Jeane Baker/Mortensen/Dougherty-she used all of those, along with ‘Mona Monroe’ and ‘Carole (something or other)’ professionally. Since he lived in San Francisco and she in Los Angeles, it was pretty unlikely.)

    There was quite a ruckus after his death and most of his dirty laundry was well aired. He really was endowed in equine fashion, but he was also usually impotent, although he did manage to sire a child a few years before his death with a female fan named Blanche Barton. He was financially destitute with no health insurance and had major open heart surgery at the California taxpayer’s expense a couple of years before he died, and the famous “Black House” was so decrepit, dilapidated and in poor repair that it had to be demolished after he died. In his later years he had poor hygiene and often stunk so bad his admirers would avoid him, which may be why he kept himself that way, but it was still revolting.

    But he was also a gifted writer whose later short works were published by Feral House and many are of good literary value. He had a remarkable command of obscure history and had amassed a remarkable collection of literature-a great deal of now-forgotten popular writing no one much saved and which provide a great insight into the America of the noir era he loved (and sadly much of which was destroyed after his death). He was a competent (if not a master) theater organist, which is no mean feat, as these instruments were extremely complicated and most classical or church organists had no idea how to utilize these instruments very well.

    We witness a tragic end to the Satanic Circus;
    “Anton LaVey’s” Faked Death Certificate

    In a last ditch effort to curry favor among cult followers, Howard Stanton Levey’s
    next of kin, daughter Karla, faked his death certificate, falsifying his name as
    “Anton LaVey,” changing his date of death to October 31st and corrupting
    both his parent’s real names. Click below to examine the document and
    the appended corrections made by the attending physician…

    http://www.churchofsatan.org/fake_3.html

    He is probably best viewed not as an occult figure but more as a San Francisco eccentric in the mode of Emperor Norton 1 and others of that ilk. That city has always had a seemingly magnetic attraction for the weird.

  95. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    As you might guess, the children had been sexually abused.
     
    You can guess why they were brought to Tallahassee, of all places:


    The Most Phallic Building in the World


    https://i.redd.it/7l10pnrbzqwy.jpg

    http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/events/phallic/fl_capitol.GIF

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Anonymous

    Kansas City’s Liberty Memorial would probably be considered more phallic on this planet, inasmuch as human penises tend to be of circular or ovoid cross section. On Planet Squarepenis, though, that’d do it.

  96. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1223732716157460480

    Replies: @Lot, @bomag, @HammerJack, @Moses, @Reg Cæsar

    Continuing to militarize schools won’t improve school safety.

    The Philippines used to require every male high-school senior to take Junior ROTC. That sounds like a great idea to institute here.

    Also, let the boys vote. After all, they will have to register with Selective Service in the upcoming Congressional term. What better way to concentrate the mind?

  97. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Outstanding book. Comports exactly with my experiences in Asia.

    Chinese factory owners get pissed off when the customer is happy. It means they didn’t chisel enough margin out of them.

    The US military brass and senior political leaders need to read this book. It shows the Chinese mentality — cheating, lying, trying to get away with anything they can.

    The Chinese even have an idiom that goes like “If you can get away with cheating, do it”.

    We are seeing the fruits of the Chinese way with the Corona virus outbreak they ignored for 6 weeks whilst arresting doctors who sounded the alarm.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Moses

    Also necessary is Ways That Are Dark. I'm currently reading End of Cheap China. While I anticipated and agreed with the basic message years ago, I cannot endorse this book, which is shockingly poorly written in places, somewhat dated, and regularly bizarrely propagandistic. A lot of the chapter endings read like Chinese government official statements.

  98. @Franz
    It's (at long last) a Parkinson/Peter Mash-Up

    The Peter Principle:

    "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence."
     
    Since Diversity = Incompetence to start with, we have what amounts to Parkinson's "Diversity" filling useful areas of endeavor until there are none left.

    Thus do Peter's incompetent Diversity Managers create a vacuum (think Boeing) and the very reason the organization was founded is subordinate to twaddle. But there's method here, because it's sure to doom every institution that embraces it. All!

    So the clock's been ticking in diversity land for a long time now.

    Replies: @CrunchyButRealistCon

    Here’s some Diversity Programming & Special Pleading that is being suggested by Firefox.
    A lot of this stuff decodes to mostly resistance by Senior management to letting a “CDO” implement full Racial Re-engineering of a work force.
    https://catapult.co/editorial/topics/exit-interviews/stories

  99. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Paul Midler’s ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect…))

    Yes, he is.

    You can tell when he recounts how awful his trip to Philly which he uses as a springboard to wonder why “American society” (as represented by Philly) is so violent. Not once does he mention a 5 letter word that begins with “B” and ends with “k”. Duh, come on.

    The other dumbfounding part of his book is when he contrasts the reception he gets when he stops in unannounced at a factory in China vs. a factory in the USA. The Chinese are always over-the-top solicitous of him, the American factory boss standoffish and suspicious of the guy who works in China.

    Come on – the Chinese see his Western face as a mark to be had. They would never treat a random Chinese stopping by the same way.

    For a guy who seems otherwise pretty smart, these two examples showed either idiocy or willful ignorance.

  100. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you’d spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain.

    I’m no expert on the subject, but from the areas that I do know something about,I think that’s basically right. We Knives , which is a Chinese high end production knife maker, is pretty much just as expensive as Benchmade or other USA makers of similar quality. The higher end Chinese knife manufacturers (there are several) tend to have American, or at least European, designers too.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @kaganovitch

    Yes, the word is that the Chinese are like a fairy tale genie and will do exactly what you ask, to include reproducing errors and cutting any corner they think you can't see. The solution is to have a man of your own in there who speaks fluent Chinese and is on the plant floor every day looking at the workers with his own eyes. The must-read Poorly Made In China was by one such man. I have seen businessmen advising each other not to learn Chinese to avoid getting saddled with this assignment -- if you're the only guy in house with good Mandarin, it's a sure thing.

  101. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @anon

    He's talking about someone settling up an old fashioned university. Presumably that would involve an in parentis loco policy, on-campus single sex dorms, curfews, and dialing back or eliminating online dating and hookups in favor of meeting fellow students for longer term relationships.

    There are Christian campuses that do this. The College of the Ozarks is an example. They don't take federal money, and they make every student work for tuition, room, and board, including over part of the break, and the rest comes from its endowment.

    All the kids in the family bluegrass band The Petersons attended Ozarks, and they seem remarkably well adjusted to me (lots of YouTube interviews and vlogs of them). Read the Wikipedia entry on the college, keeping in mind that Wikipedia writers go out of their way to make such institutions sound creepy.

    Replies: @anon

    He’s talking about someone settling up an old fashioned university.

    Yes, I know. Examples such as Grove City already exist. But either AD doesn’t know or somehow they don’t measure up to his fantasy.

    Presumably that would involve an in parentis loco policy, on-campus single sex dorms, curfews, and dialing back or eliminating online dating and hookups in favor of meeting fellow students for longer term relationships.

    Sure, and a total blackout of all Internet connectivity, too. Should totally work.

    There are Christian campuses that do this.

    There are any number of less expensive small liberal arts colleges scattered across the country. Many of them associated with a Christian denomination; there are Baptist and Methodist and Lutheran schools all across the midwest, up the west coast, all across the South. Somehow AD can’t see them. Probably because he’s not really looking, he’s just having a fantasy bemoaning the modern world.

    Plus it has never been easier in history to read great books. Never. And do so without going to Amazon, either. Goodreads, Gutenberg, etc. make it trivial to find different translations of Aristotle and Molire. Most people won’t do it. Why?

    The fact is most people don’t benefit from real 4 year college. Because most people don’t have an IQ of 115 to 120. Forcing average people into college hasn’t worked out well. My friend the diesel mechanic makes pretty good money, he’s supporting his three kids and his wife. Not enough for you? Not good enough? Because he never read Dante he’s an inferior flyover specimen?

    Desidarius

    “Courtship”? Does anyone under the age of 60 even talk that way now, outside of some really small church bubbles?

    Yes. It’s the new thing. I’d be kind of embarassed if I weren’t up on it.

    Lol. If “courtship” is the new thing outside of some really small church bubbles why isn’t it visible? Lots of people sitiin’ on the front porch for a while before goin’ down to the malt shop? How does “courtship” work when the average American women gets married at 27? Does she just sit on her parents front porch for 8 – 10 years ? Or is something else going on?

    A friend of mine got married in the Army. How should he have “courted” his wife, when they were both out of CONUS? Her parents are divorced and live in different states, which front porch should they have been sitting on while they “courted”? What if his mother lives in an apartment with her new husband, and got no front porch, that means he didn’t properly “court” her so they shouldn’t be married according to you?

    Muh COURTING, lol.

    How do you think “courtship” works online?

    Offline.

    In a bubble.The bubble where you live, inside your head. In the real world more and more people meet a future spouse online via services. Most definitely including devout Christians; a girl in a church of 100 people in smalltown flyover who isn’t into missionary dating doesn’t have much choice. Are you embarrassed that you do not know this?

    Could be you are unconsciously projecting your late-middle-aged desires for your own family onto other people.

    No. It’s entirely conscious.

    Are you Another Dad? Or are you just trying to pretend to be?

    Not to burst your bubble, but it isn’t 1980-something anymore.

    Bubble burst long ago. You should try it, you might like it, Mr. CurrentYear.

    OK Boomer! Yeah, I know you are GenX, but on the pompousness scale you are Boomer qualified.

    What did your wife do with her purity ring ?
    Oh, and how’s your bro Josh Harris doing these days?

  102. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Cortes


    Is this the Larry King who has a gig on RT?

     

    No, different Larry King. A black guy.

    Here's another interesting scandal.

    The Presidio military base.


    https://twitter.com/capricorn1860/status/811042143619923969

    The FBI is investigating allegations that 37 or more children were molested at a child-care center at the Presidio Army base here since mid-1985, authorities said Monday.

    At least four children contracted chlamydia, a common, treatable venereal disease, Presidio spokesman Bob Mahoney said. Another child initially tested positive for exposure to the acquired immune deficiency syndrome virus, but a more reliable test showed no infection.

    “It is an extensive investigation regarding child molestation at the Presidio,” FBI spokesman John Holford said. “The agents are still conducting interviews and collecting evidence.”

    “Because of the long period of time in which this case concerns itself, we simply don’t know how many children are involved,” said Col. Joseph V. Rafferty, commander of the base, which overlooks the Golden Gate.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

    Since this is still going on I should post the Fox Island documentary. It’s pretty good but a bit airy and exploitative, which fits because it’s made by a local news outfit relying on their own archives. One memory-holed fact it does a good job of fleshing out is that the reason the so-called Satanic Panic and Stranger Danger phenomena happened in the 80s was the explosion of cult activity, serial killers, kidnapping, pedophilia, and dead child bodies discovered by the side of the road all over the 70s. This is about Michigan, but of course things like this were happening in California and New York, and anyone who has read David Peace’s Red Riding Quartet or seen the beginning of that one Sean Connery movie will see parallels.
    Five 45 minute segments, I’m not going to link all but the others should be in the sidebar.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross

    The spike in child predators coincided with the increase in serial killers.

    Back then, people were very out and about. It was especially common for young people to go out for hours to hang out with their friends, look for adventures, or get in trouble. So child predators and serial killers had lots of targets, especially since people were so naive, trusting, and social back then.

    These days you don't find young people hanging out much in public spaces. Especially not for long periods of time. Even when they are out, they're usually distracted by a phone or some electronic device.

  103. @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you’d spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain.

    I'm no expert on the subject, but from the areas that I do know something about,I think that's basically right. We Knives , which is a Chinese high end production knife maker, is pretty much just as expensive as Benchmade or other USA makers of similar quality. The higher end Chinese knife manufacturers (there are several) tend to have American, or at least European, designers too.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Yes, the word is that the Chinese are like a fairy tale genie and will do exactly what you ask, to include reproducing errors and cutting any corner they think you can’t see. The solution is to have a man of your own in there who speaks fluent Chinese and is on the plant floor every day looking at the workers with his own eyes. The must-read Poorly Made In China was by one such man. I have seen businessmen advising each other not to learn Chinese to avoid getting saddled with this assignment — if you’re the only guy in house with good Mandarin, it’s a sure thing.

  104. @Moses
    @Anonymous

    Outstanding book. Comports exactly with my experiences in Asia.

    Chinese factory owners get pissed off when the customer is happy. It means they didn't chisel enough margin out of them.

    The US military brass and senior political leaders need to read this book. It shows the Chinese mentality -- cheating, lying, trying to get away with anything they can.

    The Chinese even have an idiom that goes like "If you can get away with cheating, do it".

    We are seeing the fruits of the Chinese way with the Corona virus outbreak they ignored for 6 weeks whilst arresting doctors who sounded the alarm.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Also necessary is Ways That Are Dark. I’m currently reading End of Cheap China. While I anticipated and agreed with the basic message years ago, I cannot endorse this book, which is shockingly poorly written in places, somewhat dated, and regularly bizarrely propagandistic. A lot of the chapter endings read like Chinese government official statements.

  105. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    It’s easy to get stuff made in China. It’s very difficult to get GOOD stuff made

    Who said anything about GOOD stuff?

    I knew an Israeli guy whose had a business involving getting American manufacturers to close their factories and outsource their production to China. The private equity wizards who bought these old line family companies would hire him to do this. He once told me a story about a lock manufacturer that was one his clients – an old line Connecticut Valley brass mfr (brass mfring in the Connecticut Valley went back to colonial times). They told him that their locks were tested to 2 million cycles or something and that the samples that he sent them (which cost 1/4th of what it cost them to produce in the US) had failed after only 1 million cycles. And he told them “What do you care?”

    If you visit Home Depot today you will see this company’s locks, bearing their familiar trademark but somewhere on the package, in small print, it says, “Made in China”.

    There’s a joke going around Asia now about the Coronavirus. People are saying that there’s nothing to worry about – the epidemic won’t last very long because it’s “Made in China”.

  106. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China…

    Alibaba has 5,248 listings for AN fittings from China:

    https://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/an-fittings.html

  107. Apparently, we are tied with the UK, Greece, Norway, and Belgium for the 17th-best passport in the world:

    https://fr.quora.com/Quel-pays-poss%C3%A8de-le-passeport-le-plus-puissant-au-monde/answer/Cuong-Pham-Chez-Vietnam-D%C3%A9couverte

    Or tenth, with the UK, Norway, Austria, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Portugal on this more optimistic list:

    https://fr.quora.com/Quel-pays-poss%C3%A8de-le-passeport-le-plus-puissant-au-monde/answer/Apollo-de-Souza

  108. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    His full name was Anton Szandor LaVey.

    In the movie "Eyes Wide Shut," there's a character named Sandor Szavost. The movie features quite a few Satanic scenes.

    The film (which was directed by Stanley Kubrick) is rather interesting because it offers a glimpse into the forbidden world of elite prostitution, sex trafficking, child grooming, and Occult ritualism.

    There's one interesting scene in the film in which the Romanian Orthodox Divine Liturgy is played backward, while Occult rituals are performed. Prostitutes then disrobe and commence with an orgy.

    The movie features a masked party that's similar to a party that was held decades ago in a Rothschild mansion. The movie's party even takes place in a Rothschild mansion (which had been sold years before the movie was created) and shows the Rothschild family crest on the throne of Satanic priest.

    You can compare the two parties in the videos below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMlXey70XE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xqgBy12eM

    Later in the film, it's revealed that a secret elite trafficking network exists. This trafficking network sexually services the most wealthy, influential, and famous members at its debauched parties. The network also conducts various types of Occult religious practices. Interestingly, the network seems to be run by a wealthy local Jewish individual.

    At one point of the movie, it's implied that the "Windsor" family are somehow linked in with the trafficking network.

    Since the clients and operators of the network are so powerful, they're invulnerable. They have their hands on the levers of power, as well as various informants and assassins. If you should ever attempt to expose them, they'll ruin you or kill you.

    The movie ends with a small female child being kidnapped and forced into prostitution.

    Many believe that Kubrick was aware of these links between elites and Occult sex trafficking. Many believe that Kubrick (who died very shortly after completing the film) was killed for revealing these secrets.

    There's an interesting similarity between Epstein's floor pattern and that of the mansion in Eyes Wide Shut.

    https://twitter.com/mooncult/status/1166846334218817536

    Replies: @J.Ross

    EWS is a slog to defend (I instantly recognized the greenscreen in the stroll sequence; even with all the detail, it’s still a movie that never would have done commercially well), but one thing it knocks out of the park is perfectly hiding deniable occult symbols in plain sight.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross


    but one thing it knocks out of the park is perfectly hiding deniable occult symbols in plain sight.
     
    One of the main characters is a wealthy Jewish-American socialite named "Ziegler." He seems to play a significant role in running a sex trafficking ring in NYC and has lots of powerful and famous friends. "Ziegler" is sort of like Jeffrey Epstein. The floor pattern in the "Ziegler" home is actually very similar to that of Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. Which is sort of interesting when you consider the film was released over 20 years ago.

    In one scene, "Ziegler" has a devil's tail tucked in the back of his expensive suit pants.

    In the "Ziegler" mansion, the Star of Ishtar is displayed prominently throughout the house. Ishtar was a Babylonian deity who had a cult of temple prostitution dedicated to her. Throughout the movie, Babylonian symbols and architecture are present in many interesting places.

    When you watch the movie, it's remarkable how many similarities there are between the film's main party and the real-life Occult Rothschild ball. They even used the old Rothschild mansion for some filming.
  109. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    EWS is a slog to defend (I instantly recognized the greenscreen in the stroll sequence; even with all the detail, it's still a movie that never would have done commercially well), but one thing it knocks out of the park is perfectly hiding deniable occult symbols in plain sight.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    but one thing it knocks out of the park is perfectly hiding deniable occult symbols in plain sight.

    One of the main characters is a wealthy Jewish-American socialite named “Ziegler.” He seems to play a significant role in running a sex trafficking ring in NYC and has lots of powerful and famous friends. “Ziegler” is sort of like Jeffrey Epstein. The floor pattern in the “Ziegler” home is actually very similar to that of Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion. Which is sort of interesting when you consider the film was released over 20 years ago.

    In one scene, “Ziegler” has a devil’s tail tucked in the back of his expensive suit pants.

    In the “Ziegler” mansion, the Star of Ishtar is displayed prominently throughout the house. Ishtar was a Babylonian deity who had a cult of temple prostitution dedicated to her. Throughout the movie, Babylonian symbols and architecture are present in many interesting places.

    When you watch the movie, it’s remarkable how many similarities there are between the film’s main party and the real-life Occult Rothschild ball. They even used the old Rothschild mansion for some filming.

  110. @Anonymous
    @Not My Economy

    Hillsdale seems kind of like a typical pastoral college without the big teams or the more expensive industrial-science departments (lack of imposing tomographic equipment and whatnot) -- of course, if they don't accept fed $$$, or comply with Title IX, Project DEITY, or any of these other exciting edu-biz trends, I'd expect some difference in the daily experience there, even if subtle.

    Then again, dumb hormonal kids tend to act the same anywhere, regardless of SAT score or whatever eccentric ideas the college founders had. So Hillsdale's probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

    If parents weren't as venal and status-obsessed as their teenagers, a lot more would go the community-college route, with the requirement on Junior or Princess to save up at least half the room & board cost for their first transfer year. Encouraging 19-year-olds' living in overpriced dorms to watch TV and do drugs in between about 3-4 hours of class time every day is a poisonous yuppie ritual with questionable benefit toward "networking" after graduation.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @The Last Real Calvinist

    So Hillsdale’s probably neither better nor worse than the garden-variety lib arts school, to someone worried about where to park their kid 4 years.

    We Calvinists visited Hillsdale, and seriously considered it as an option for Daughter C. I work in higher ed, and my impression is that Hillsdale really is quite different from a run-of-the-mill liberal arts college. Since Hillsdale doesn’t accept federal money, and hence can avoid a significant amount of government meddling in its curriculum, hiring practics, and admissions, it seems genuinely conservative in a way almost no other colleges can be. Their admissions/academic standards are also significantly higher than average; it seems like a fairly rigorous place.

    On the sports side, though, they offer the full slate of NCAA Division III options. My impression is that sports are still a pretty big deal there.

  111. @Desiderius
    @Lot

    Red State Us are often among the worst as they're still trying to keep up with the prestigious Joneses and nowadays that means DIE whitey and all sorts of other fads they're not nearly as well equipped to survive as the big boys. Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

    Hillsdale is fine but has its own issues and not everyone in the whole country can go to one small school. I wouldn't be surprised to see some rays of post-progtard light emerging soon from some unexpected places. Until then only go to college if you've got a really good idea of what you want from it. No shame at all in a trade, and you'll often get more out of college with some experience under your belt first if you do decide to go later.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

    This is unfortunately just what we found when we were college-hunting. The next decade or two are going to be hard going for a lot of Christian — and ‘Christian’ — colleges. They are being forced to emerge from the cultural sort-of-safe space they’ve operated in for many years, and declare themselves to be serious — or not — about living up to their mission statements, their denominational mandates, and the trust of their students’ parents.

    Rod Dreher writes a lot of hit-and-miss stuff, but I think he’s right on the mark on this subject.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I can't stomach much contemporary Christian culture, but if you're curious about how it comports with timeless values and or orthodox Christian teaching (spoiler: not well) Dalrock's blog is a good source.

    , @Desiderius
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Dreher and several other kneejerk anti-Trumpers are belatedly coming around to at least skepticism about the garbage takes handed to them from whatever sources they once gave too much credence to. You can see a big change in his commenters.

    The big danger has always been mass dehumanization of Trump voters, so it's good to see things like this finally showing up:

    https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/satanic-pregnancies-explained

  112. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Desiderius


    Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

     

    This is unfortunately just what we found when we were college-hunting. The next decade or two are going to be hard going for a lot of Christian -- and 'Christian' -- colleges. They are being forced to emerge from the cultural sort-of-safe space they've operated in for many years, and declare themselves to be serious -- or not -- about living up to their mission statements, their denominational mandates, and the trust of their students' parents.

    Rod Dreher writes a lot of hit-and-miss stuff, but I think he's right on the mark on this subject.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

    I can’t stomach much contemporary Christian culture, but if you’re curious about how it comports with timeless values and or orthodox Christian teaching (spoiler: not well) Dalrock’s blog is a good source.

  113. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Desiderius


    Christian colleges suffer from the zeal of the converts to the Poz/SJW and the lack of good antibodies to it that post-progs enjoy.

     

    This is unfortunately just what we found when we were college-hunting. The next decade or two are going to be hard going for a lot of Christian -- and 'Christian' -- colleges. They are being forced to emerge from the cultural sort-of-safe space they've operated in for many years, and declare themselves to be serious -- or not -- about living up to their mission statements, their denominational mandates, and the trust of their students' parents.

    Rod Dreher writes a lot of hit-and-miss stuff, but I think he's right on the mark on this subject.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

    Dreher and several other kneejerk anti-Trumpers are belatedly coming around to at least skepticism about the garbage takes handed to them from whatever sources they once gave too much credence to. You can see a big change in his commenters.

    The big danger has always been mass dehumanization of Trump voters, so it’s good to see things like this finally showing up:

    https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/satanic-pregnancies-explained

  114. @Paco Wové
    @JohnnyWalker123

    May I politely encourage you to get your own fucking blog?

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer

    If you don’t like it, scroll past it.

    Leave the rest of us to talk to each other in peace.

  115. @Steve in Greensboro
    Country music used to be the music of traditional America. It's mostly been destroyed, watered down and feminized. But there are exceptions, one of which is Carolina boy Luke Combs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7kqqmr2HWI

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Country music per se was invented in the 1920s to play on radio for rural farmers and others with battery radios. Along with flour and biscuit mix and cooking staples, laxatives were a major group of sponsors.

    The ((Auerbach)) family (Hill and Range) were the big players.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    You are confusing Auerbach (as in Dan, a current producer and artist with the Black Keys of Akron, Ohio) with Aberbach (the Hill and Range family).

    Hill and Range was indeed a famously exploitative country music publishing outfit, but was active in the 1950s and 1960s, famously having entered into a contract with Elvis Presley via his management, "Col" Tom Parker, that gave them a ludicrously high share of Elvis' revenue stream and made him record material primarily published by them. Col. Tom was not by any conventional standard a "good businessman", but inasmuch as he was a murder suspect and illegal immigrant on the lam, perhaps figured that such deals would deflect scrutiny from him. (Elvis actually made about a quarter of what he actually should have made with competent honest management.)

  116. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Sounds like American manufacturing in the 19th century. Because the manufacturing in our economy today is of the higher margin type that employs fewer people and relies on brand value for the pricing power that enables high margins, most Americans have no understanding of what it’s like to have a manufacturing economy with lots of competition, lots of workers, and very low margins.

    http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/26/a_nation_of_outlaws/

    Taking a page from the British, who had pioneered many ingenious methods of adulteration a generation or two earlier, American manufacturers, distributors, and vendors of food began tampering with their products en masse — bulking out supplies with cheap filler, using dangerous additives to mask spoilage or to give foodstuffs a more appealing color.

    A committee of would-be reformers who met in Boston in 1859 launched one of the first studies of American food purity, and their findings make for less-than-appetizing reading: candy was found to contain arsenic and dyed with copper chloride; conniving brewers mixed extracts of “nux vomica,” a tree that yields strychnine, to simulate the bitter taste of hops. Pickles contained copper sulphate, and custard powders yielded traces of lead. Sugar was blended with plaster of Paris, as was flour. Milk had been watered down, then bulked up with chalk and sheep’s brains. Hundred-pound bags of coffee labeled “Fine Old Java” turned out to consist of three-fifths dried peas, one-fifth chicory, and only one-fifth coffee.

    Though there was the occasional clumsy attempt at domestic reform by midcentury — most famously in response to the practice of selling “swill milk” taken from diseased cows force-fed a diet of toxic refuse produced by liquor distilleries — little changed. And just as the worst sufferers of adulterated food in China today are the Chinese, so it was the Americans who suffered in the early 19th-century United States. But when America started exporting food more broadly after the Civil War, the practice started to catch up to us.

    One of the first international scandals involved “oleo-margarine,” a butter substitute originally made from an alchemical process involving beef fat, cattle stomach, and for good measure, finely diced cow, hog, and ewe udders. This “greasy counterfeit,” as one critic called it, was shipped to Europe as genuine butter, leading to a precipitous decline in butter exports by the mid-1880s. (Wily entrepreneurs, recognizing an opportunity, bought up genuine butter in Boston, affixed counterfeit labels of British butter manufacturers, and shipped them to England.) The same decade saw a similar, though less unsettling problem as British authorities discovered that lard imported from the United States was often adulterated with cottonseed oil.

    Even worse was the meatpacking industry, whose practices prompted a trade war with several European nations. The 20th-century malfeasance of the industry is well known today: “deviled ham” made of beef fat, tripe, and veal byproducts; sausages made from tubercular pork; and, if Upton Sinclair is to be believed, lard containing traces of the occasional human victim of workplace accidents. But the international arena was the scene of some of the first scandals, most notably in 1879, when Germany accused the United States of exporting pork contaminated with trichinae worms and cholera. That led several countries to boycott American pork. Similar scares over beef infected with a lung disease intensified these trade battles.

    Food, of course, was only the beginning. In the literary realm, for most of the 19th century the United States remained an outlaw in the world of international copyright. The nation’s publishers merrily pirated books without permission, and without paying the authors or original publishers a dime. When Dickens published a scathing account of his visit, “American Notes for General Circulation,” it was, appropriately enough, immediately pirated in the United States.

    In one industry after another, 19th-century American producers churned out counterfeit products in remarkable quantities, slapping fake labels on locally made knockoffs of foreign ales, wines, gloves, and thread. As one expose at the time put it: “We have ‘Paris hats’ made in New York, ‘London Gin’ and ‘London Porter’ that never was in a ship’s hold, ‘Superfine French paper’ made in Massachusetts.”

    Counterfeiters of patent medicines were especially notorious. This was a bit ironic, given that most of these remedies were pretty spurious already, but that didn’t stop the practice. The most elaborate schemes involved importing empty bottles, filling them with bogus concoctions, and then affixing fake labels from well-respected European firms.

    Americans also displayed a particular talent for counterfeiting currency. This was a time when individual banks, not the federal government, supplied the nation’s paper money in a bewildering variety of so-called “bank notes.” Counterfeiters flourished to the point that in 1862 one British writer, after counting close to 6,000 different species of counterfeit or fraudulent bills in circulation, could reasonably assure his readers that “in America, counterfeiting has long been practiced on a scale which to many will appear incredible.”

  117. Anonymous[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's easy to get stuff made in China. It's very difficult to get GOOD stuff made there without either paying as much or more than you'd spend here or being big enough to be able to micromanage your supply chain. Apple has hundreds or thousands of people in the US whose function is to interface with the people at Foxconn and other Chinese suppliers, and they do billions of dollars in business with huge factories dedicated to their products alone.

    If the Chinese were designing and marketing this stuff on their own initiative that would be one thing, but they are not. It's all designed here and most of the net spendable goes into pockets over here. The Chinese are not able to build a brand anyone here or there really wants.

    When the Chinese would buy a US factory, they were famous for micro-documenting the facility and pulling up everything imaginable and exactly re-creating the plant down to the number and location of toilets, sinks, soap dishes-down to the urinal cakes in the men's and tampon dispensers in the women's rooms. They would take new and worn-out machinery alike and set it up in exactly the same positions, in the same way that when the Russians copied the B-29 they'd drill and rivet skins in places where the Boeing assemblers had made a mistake and put in a rivet. It was cargo cult manufacturing engineering. They didn't really understand how it worked , only that it did. But once they had the line going, you'd have 'quality fade'-they'd start cheesing out on materials, reducing the thickness of packaging, shaving build cost in every way possible. And your designs would wind up in other merchandise as they subcontracted wildly, on an ad hoc basis, so the time and energy you put into designing a particular part would wind up all over the place. If a factory owner decided he'd made enough money or that the CCP was on his ass or for any other reason, he might shut down overnight and vanish with no explanation.

    Paul Midler's ((yes, I know, or at least strongly suspect...)) Poorly Made in China gives a pretty good overview of this.

    https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077


    An insider reveals what can―and does―go wrong when companies shift production to China

    In this entertaining behind-the-scenes account, Paul Midler tells us all that is wrong with our effort to shift manufacturing to China. Now updated and expanded, Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade―the deliberate and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. U.S. importers don’t stand a chance, Midler explains, against savvy Chinese suppliers who feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit. This is a lively and impassioned personal account, a collection of true stories, told by an American who has worked in the country for close to two decades. Poorly Made in China touches on a number of issues that affect us all.
     
    A good example is the fact that no one even tries to get AN fittings made in China...

    Replies: @Moses, @Moses, @kaganovitch, @Jack D, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Huawei actually makes good products. Huawei is being blocked not just because of 5G and worries about potential spying, but also because it makes quite good final, assembled products now, namely smartphones, laptops, and other electronic consumer items. Huawei would take much of Samsung’s market share in the US if it weren’t blocked. The relative quality and appeal of Japanese products have stagnated or declined. Sony and the other Japanese companies don’t really make anything better than Huawei and the other top Chinese companies make.

    There is actually a sub-culture in the US of audio engineers and audiophiles who are into “Chi-fi” or Chinese hi-fi because of the quality of the products:

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/7/20943377/chinese-hi-fi-audio-chifi-fiio-hifiman-tin-audio

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    After years of dealing with wierdly delicate headphone cords and hokey music players, I finally asked why isn't there a cordless music player built into a sturdy headphone set? And one which takes a removable non-proprietary data storage format? The Chinese make one (the "Bluedio Turbine"), it's shockingly inexpensive for a product at least as good as the implied competition, and the more established manufacturers do not even try. You want cordless, they try to give you bluetooth; they won't put in a slot. The one problem with the Bluedio is that it has controls that make Chinese sense: one knob does almost everything, depending on how severely you derange it, and the only way to go straight to a particular song is to sit there like an idiot and flick the universal knob (but not too hard, because then you're changing the volume). It would totally be worth a heavier price to have a Bluedio with some sort of proper control mechanism, maybe a one-line eight-character LCD display and a separate paddle for selection. But even with all the knob-bothering it's a light switch flick on a room full of idiots stumbling around for a flashlight. Superior Chinese creative innovation indeed.

  118. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Finders are almost certainly not a "proper" cult (in other words, there really are Mormons and Scientologists who sincerely believe in Mormonism and Scientology), they're probably the pedophile equivalent of the CIA's off-the-books-funding-through-coke operation. Just like coke is a useful thing to have a hand in when some people would pay well for it, so too children are a useful commodity for cultural exchange, profit, and blackmail. Penn Jillette will tell you there's no such thing as Satanism, but he will also tell you that as an atheist the one point at which he can sort of understand introducing religion is when you're an overwhelmed new parent having to rely on the threat of invisible babysitters to control the kids. Cultic appearances would also scare away botherers and create legal protections, ie, this is our religion, never mind the goats. The goats aren't there to resurrect prechristian sacrifices, they're to create specific traumatic experiences for the ki-- for the children.
    There's an extremely good documentary, which doesn't get into black helicopters or cult stuff, but which does help to make real the surprisingly large and active child trafficking situation at the time:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WLg5RJzBM
    But the real wierd stuff is when you get into Larry King.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @JohnnyWalker123, @Thatgirl

    The man named Tom in this video was a popular left-wing professor at the University of Texas at Austin when I went there in the late 80s.

    He was a real firebrand. He sadly killed himself in the early 90s after struggling for years with manic-depression.

    His son, Tom Philpot Jr., is a journalist with, I think, Mother Jones.

  119. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Huawei actually makes good products. Huawei is being blocked not just because of 5G and worries about potential spying, but also because it makes quite good final, assembled products now, namely smartphones, laptops, and other electronic consumer items. Huawei would take much of Samsung's market share in the US if it weren't blocked. The relative quality and appeal of Japanese products have stagnated or declined. Sony and the other Japanese companies don't really make anything better than Huawei and the other top Chinese companies make.

    There is actually a sub-culture in the US of audio engineers and audiophiles who are into "Chi-fi" or Chinese hi-fi because of the quality of the products:

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/7/20943377/chinese-hi-fi-audio-chifi-fiio-hifiman-tin-audio

    Replies: @J.Ross

    After years of dealing with wierdly delicate headphone cords and hokey music players, I finally asked why isn’t there a cordless music player built into a sturdy headphone set? And one which takes a removable non-proprietary data storage format? The Chinese make one (the “Bluedio Turbine”), it’s shockingly inexpensive for a product at least as good as the implied competition, and the more established manufacturers do not even try. You want cordless, they try to give you bluetooth; they won’t put in a slot. The one problem with the Bluedio is that it has controls that make Chinese sense: one knob does almost everything, depending on how severely you derange it, and the only way to go straight to a particular song is to sit there like an idiot and flick the universal knob (but not too hard, because then you’re changing the volume). It would totally be worth a heavier price to have a Bluedio with some sort of proper control mechanism, maybe a one-line eight-character LCD display and a separate paddle for selection. But even with all the knob-bothering it’s a light switch flick on a room full of idiots stumbling around for a flashlight. Superior Chinese creative innovation indeed.

  120. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Country music per se was invented in the 1920s to play on radio for rural farmers and others with battery radios. Along with flour and biscuit mix and cooking staples, laxatives were a major group of sponsors.

    The ((Auerbach)) family (Hill and Range) were the big players.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You are confusing Auerbach (as in Dan, a current producer and artist with the Black Keys of Akron, Ohio) with Aberbach (the Hill and Range family).

    Hill and Range was indeed a famously exploitative country music publishing outfit, but was active in the 1950s and 1960s, famously having entered into a contract with Elvis Presley via his management, “Col” Tom Parker, that gave them a ludicrously high share of Elvis’ revenue stream and made him record material primarily published by them. Col. Tom was not by any conventional standard a “good businessman”, but inasmuch as he was a murder suspect and illegal immigrant on the lam, perhaps figured that such deals would deflect scrutiny from him. (Elvis actually made about a quarter of what he actually should have made with competent honest management.)

  121. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Since this is still going on I should post the Fox Island documentary. It's pretty good but a bit airy and exploitative, which fits because it's made by a local news outfit relying on their own archives. One memory-holed fact it does a good job of fleshing out is that the reason the so-called Satanic Panic and Stranger Danger phenomena happened in the 80s was the explosion of cult activity, serial killers, kidnapping, pedophilia, and dead child bodies discovered by the side of the road all over the 70s. This is about Michigan, but of course things like this were happening in California and New York, and anyone who has read David Peace's Red Riding Quartet or seen the beginning of that one Sean Connery movie will see parallels.
    Five 45 minute segments, I'm not going to link all but the others should be in the sidebar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIM2vfGEnRc

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    The spike in child predators coincided with the increase in serial killers.

    Back then, people were very out and about. It was especially common for young people to go out for hours to hang out with their friends, look for adventures, or get in trouble. So child predators and serial killers had lots of targets, especially since people were so naive, trusting, and social back then.

    These days you don’t find young people hanging out much in public spaces. Especially not for long periods of time. Even when they are out, they’re usually distracted by a phone or some electronic device.

  122. Stephen’s comment is masterful; He just invented a new law (The Diversity Parkinson’s Law) that holds true throughout our diminished culture today. Foster has learned opinions and a great way with words, as you will discover if you visit his website Fosterspeak. I think that if I needed a speech writer, I would look him up.

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