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Maybe Antifa tore down Abraham Lincoln’s statue for Columbus Day due to the speech Lincoln delivered at the White House to 14 Indian chiefs about how Indians should stop hunting and raiding and settle down to farming liked we pale-faced people do.

“You have all spoken of the strange sights you see here, among your pale-faced brethren; the very great number of people that you see; the big wigwams; the difference between our people and your own. But you have seen but a very small part of the palefaced people. You may wonder when I tell you that there are people here in this wigwam, now looking at you, who have come from other countries a great deal farther off than you have come.

“We pale-faced people think that this world is a great, round ball, and we have people here of the pale-faced family who have come almost from the other side of it to represent their nations here and conduct their friendly intercourse with us, as you now come from your part of the round ball. …

“We have people now present from all parts of the globe—here, and here, and here. There is a great difference between this palefaced people and their red brethren, both as to numbers and the way in which they live. We know not whether your own situation is best for your race, but this is what has made the difference in our way of living.

“The pale-faced people are numerous and prosperous because they cultivate the earth, produce bread, and depend upon the products of the earth rather than wild game for a subsistence. This is the chief reason of the difference; but there is another. Although we are now engaged in a great war between one another, we are not, as a race, so much disposed to fight and kill one another as our red brethren.

“You have asked for my advice. I really am not capable of advising you whether, in the providence of the Great Spirit, who is the great Father of us all, it is best for you to maintain the habits and customs of your race, or adopt a new mode of life. I can only say that I can see no way in which your race is to become as numerous and prosperous as the white race except by living as they do, by the cultivation of the earth. …”

 
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  1. Ono! John Lennon’s influence continues via his offspring!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @wren
    , @Neoconned
  2. Mr. Anon says:

    Can someone explain why it appears a Lincoln statue was toppled in Portland?

    As ye pull down, so shall ye be pulled down.

    Suck it up, Abe.

    You’re canceled.

  3. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Police station in France attacked by ‘mass mob’ using fireworks as artillery, and wielding iron bars as weapons.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  4. Franz says:

    I can only say that I can see no way in which your race is to become as numerous and prosperous as the white race except by living as they do

    There he goes again, advice to non-whites on breeding more efficiently.

    Abraham Lincoln, race-traitor to the bone.

    • Agree: Nico
  5. I always liked Eric Idle’s line, as John Lennon:” I’m starting a war for peace.”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Liza
  6. @Buzz Mohawk

    Another example of that old saw of “first as tragedy, then as farce.”

  7. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:

    In March 2018, thousands of Facebook users shared a meme which asserts that President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the executions of 38 Native American warriors in 1862:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lincoln-dakota/

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @syonredux
  8. bomag says:

    Looks like Sean Ono Lennon hasn’t noticed that it is a war against White men regardless of held political views or icon status.

  9. angmojo says:

    Why does that Lincoln dialogue sound like an extended bit from a Mel Brooks film?

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  10. “Asking for a friend”??? Well, even if he’s safeguarding himself from the cancel mob, at least he asked the question.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Simon
  11. wren says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I’m waiting for him to come out of the closet and say “Of course I’m voting for Trump!”

    Good music too, but I post it too often.

    • Replies: @wren
    , @Mr. Grey
  12. Clyde says:

    Sean Lennon had all the advantages for a good career in music, he has been putting out music for decades. But I have never heard a tune from him. He has never made a dent or had a semi-hit even. My guess is he inherited his non-talent from his mother. What insane screeching music she put out.

  13. OT but the guy who called the cops on George Floyd was a west African. Lots of good woke hand-wringing here…
    https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/10/cup-foods-george-floyd-store-911-history.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @L. Guapo
  14. wren says:
    @wren

    Maybe Sean will follow Steve, and then start writing songs like “Invade the World, Invite the World.”

    Or maybe “History of Golf Course Architecture.”

    I’m sure that would be a hit.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  15. AndrewR says:

    This seems to be the reason. But Minnesota is a long way from Portland so I doubt any of the statue topplers have any personal connection to the Dakota tribe.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862

    Also I bet my life savings that all the vandals support open borders. But if one really cared about red people and wanted them to get their lands and cultures back, then one would necessarily oppose open borders. It doesn’t help the Lakota or the Cherokee or any tribe to allow our population to grow.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @bomag
    , @jsm
    , @S. Anonyia
  16. neutral says:

    They may come up with excuses, but the real reason is that any statue of a white man is the target. Eventually they won’t even need excuses anymore, for all those that still roll their eyes when people mention this is white genocide, how much more evidence do you need that this is really the end goal here?

    • Replies: @DextersLabRat
  17. AndrewR says:
    @AndrewR

    I just looked it up and we seem to be on track for the smallest decadal population increase in the history of the US, in relative terms of course.

    Even in the 1930s, the population grew 7.3%.

    As of 2019, the Census Bureau estimates a 6.3% increase since 2010, and when we include this year, even without COVID, it wouldn’t be reasonable to expect much more than a 7% population increase since 2010. COVID occuring during a census year complicates things, and I haven’t seen any data nor do I care enough to look, but I think it’s a very safe bet that this year will end up having the lowest birth rate, the highest death rate and the lowest rate of immigration in a very long time.

    Of course it will also probably end up having the lowest emigration rate too, but what was the immigration/emigration ratio in 2019?

    • Replies: @epebble
  18. Maybe Sean can explain it to his friend like this:

    Imagine you’ve got no country,
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to defend or care for,
    And no statues, too.

    And so forth. In short, imagine – if you can – a sisterhood of everyone-but-white-guys, and you’ll see why that statue had to go.

  19. @Sergeant Prepper

    Agree.

    Why Was a Lincoln Statue Toppled?

    He white.

    Why does anyone think more information is needed?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  20. @angmojo

    Maybe we can persuade Daniel Day-Lewis to come out of retirement to star in a Todd Phillips comedy entitled “Abe Lincoln and the 14 Indian Chiefs.”

    • Replies: @Lace
  21. Dumbo says:

    You know, I will be surprised only when a Lenin (or Lennon?) statue is toppled in Portland (or Seattle).

    • Replies: @anon
  22. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Julian is/was rather good, though.

  23. Altai says:
    @International Jew

    My prediction, Igbo and Yoruba will be the most hated people of the 21st century. Though from his name it seems he was Hausa, they don’t tend to emigrate as much due to actually being poor.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @J.Ross
  24. JMcG says:

    OT, but can anyone explain why there seems to be no new wave of Covid in China?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @anon
  25. duncsbaby says:
    @Anonymous

    Only slightly OT I’m afraid.

  26. Lennon was associated with hippies. The funny thing is, Quentin Tarantino made a movie about how to deal with hippies in 2019. And how dangerous they are in cult mode.

    And yet here we are in 2020. There’s nothing to break the leftwing cult fever this time. The shooting at Kent State probably helped back in 1970. And Vietnam came to an end.

    But this time, there’s nothing really wrong for the Left to complain about anyway. So how can anything “fix” it? And they have too many friends in power. And traitors to our people.

  27. anon[959] • Disclaimer says:
    @Father O'Hara

    “Fighting for peace is like f-ing for virginity.”

  28. ic1000 says:

    OT

    Via GNXP.com, here is a lengthy, topical, and important investigative journalism writeup in Tablet Magazine.

    Is Warren Buffett the Wallet Behind Black Lives Matter?
    by Sean Cooper, October 6, 2020

    The title is deceptive, as the answer (yes) is only a small piece of the mosaic that Cooper lays out to readers. This lefty-Jewish magazine is addressing a set of issues that mainstream journalists don’t found interesting enough to pursue. Doing the job that the NYT, WaPo, Fox News, NPR/Pro Publica, NBC, CNN, the LA Times, Reuters, AP, McClatchy, and ABC just won’t do.

    Three excerpts below the fold.

    [MORE]

    This spring, in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, [BLM] became a global interest: Some 1.1 million individual donations worth an estimated $33 million flowed into its coffers. Large corporations, especially in Silicon Valley and retail, have been quick to follow suit… The received wisdom, echoing the official mythology around Black Lives Matter Global Network Inc… is that BLM is a grassroots movement that rose up organically out of the widespread rage sparked by viral videos of Black American men killed by police officers…

    There is, however, another version of events, in which the heartfelt dedication to racial justice is only the forward-facing side of a more complicated movement. Behind the street level activism and emotional outpouring is a calculated machinery built by establishment money and power that has seized on racial politics, in which some of the biggest capitalists in the world are financially backing a group of self-described “trained Marxists”—a label that [founder Patrisse] Cullors enthusiastically applies to herself and the group’s other co-founders.

    …in 2013, after decades attending to the patient, detailed work of making grants to farmers in Guatemala, IDEX underwent a sudden transformation—just as the Black Lives Matter movement was beginning in earnest. For the decade prior… donor revenue to IDEX, which changed its name to Thousand Currents in 2016, [was] around $500,000 to $600,000 annually. But in 2013, IDEX received an unprecedented $450,000 in grant funding from a single source… That donor was NoVo, a social justice foundation formed in 2006 by Peter Buffett—the son of billionaire investor Warren Buffett—and Peter’s wife, Jennifer… a worldly observer might notice synergies between IDEX’s entrenched footprint across Latin America and Warren Buffett’s interest in Liberty Latin America, the telecom operator that was rapidly expanding its services [in] the region.

    Along with their new patron in NoVo, in 2015 IDEX made an addition to their board of directors… Susan Rosenberg. [She] emerged in the early ’70s as a fervent activist disillusioned by American imperialism and the Vietnam War in particular. Rosenberg joined the Weather Underground, where she took up with a cohort of other young, affluent, highly educated white women to found a group called May 19th, which by 1979 was working alongside the Black Liberation Army. The three groups carried out a series of bombings, shootings, and robberies in which dozens of innocent people were killed and maimed…

    [In 2015,] IDEX—now Thousand Currents—became BLM’s official fiscal sponsor… In addition to managing BLM’s finances, Thousand Currents took over the movement’s “administrative and back office support, including finance, accounting, grants management, insurance, human resources, legal and compliance,” according to a Thousand Currents statement… [In 2017 and 2018], NoVo dispersed a [nearly $13 million] grant to Thousand Currents. By then the group had promoted Susan Rosenberg to vice chairman of the Board of Directors.

    The [July 2020] transfer of BLM’s fiscal sponsorship from Thousand Currents to the Tides Network would appear to end the relationship between NoVo and the Black Lives Matter movement. However, according to public financial documents, NoVo has continued its relationship with BLM, just through a different shell organization…

    If all these organizations and layers of administration seem a bit confusing and opaque, that is the point. Shuttling Black Lives Matter over to the Tides Network… allows BLM to join a massive repository of projects that can be administered behind extra layers of protection. [From a single institutional silo, multiple organizational shells] are overseen by a small band of executives who operate with virtually no outside scrutiny—and can coordinate and leverage the political, social, and financial opportunities that these projects create for whatever forms of gain their donors decide to prioritize.

  29. Sean Lennon very bright and aware. Beautiful conversation with Paul McCartney
    https://youtu.be/iCe8fdBeTCs a lot of nuance. Paul tells Sean about Sean’s grandmother, how she was like John.

  30. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Doesn’t Lincoln’s statue deserve to be toppled, for launching the Civil War and for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Southern men?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  31. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    My prediction, Igbo and Yoruba will be the most hated people of the 21st century.

    What is the basis for your prediction?

    • Replies: @Altai
  32. @ic1000

    Millennial Millie’s new documentary looks at one of these cutouts and pretty convincingly ties that specific org to Soros.

    Commenter The Germ Theory of Disease had a great take that the current mess is Just Bolshevism in blackface and a dress.

  33. bomag says:
    @AndrewR

    But if one really cared about red people…

    A couple other quandaries for the Woke:

    –Dept of Interior maintains Tribal rolls, which enforces a kind of racial purity — in this age of race-not-existing.

    –Western Tribes especially are a rural venture, while the Woke are consolidating their political power in urban areas. Probably one reason the media presence of Natives is declining.

  34. Proof, if proof was needed, that Honest Abe was The Great Communicator.
    His message is so simple, and gently put that, perhaps, even Elizabeth Warren could understand it.

  35. More than likely, the knuckle heads that are Antifa and blm have no idea who the statue represented or knew much about Abe. Public education you know. The Indians should have listened. Happy Columbus Day.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  36. Anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    So Sean is basically American and Julian is British?

    Sean attended kindergarten in Tokyo [presumably because he dad had just been killed in NY] and, at his request, was educated at the exclusive private boarding school Institut Le Rosey in Rolle, Switzerland, and earlier at New York’s private Ethical Culture Fieldston School and Dalton School. He attended Columbia University for three semesters, majoring in anthropology before dropping out to focus on his music and tour with his mother.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Lennon

  37. guest says:

    Lincoln was whit e. Do we need any further reason?

    Also, he had height privilege. Which made him goofy and an object of fun in his own day, but in retrospect we like to see him tower awkwardly over his contemporaries. Some people resent that.

  38. @Sergeant Prepper

    Nice, Sarge! May I copy that for a part of a blog post (with full attribution, of course)?

    • Replies: @Sergeant Prepper
  39. guest says:
    @Clyde

    He didn’t inherit Daddy’s looks as well as Julian Lennon, who had more success. Maybe Julian also inherited musical talent, but looking just like his father certainly made him more marketable.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  40. ChrisZ says:
    @ic1000

    Good noticing, IC.

    Can we take this to mean that a certain group is starting to get nervous about the whole Woke thing? Nothing is more likely to turn them OFF of BLM than the thought that an elderly Middle-American gentile is bankrolling it.

    As long as the bankroller was assumed to be one of their own, they were okay with it–no matter how Satanic a guy like Soros turned out to be. Maybe we should be promulgating this Buffet-BLM connection to sow dissension in the Fringes Coalition (or rather, to decapitate it)?

    I’m interested in seeing the amount of exposure this story gets in the coming days. Is it significant, or merely funny, that the reporter for the Tablet is named Sean Cooper?

    • Replies: @ic1000
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
  41. OT:

    Don’t look now, but ACB is going to be a squish.

    Right in the opening page of her testimony she brags how her adopted joggeress can deadlift as much as any [icky] boy at her school.

    It’s all so tiresome.

  42. @Clyde

    …he has been putting out music for decades. But I have never heard a tune from him.

    As if we’ve heard tunes from anyone else “putting out music” for the last several decades.

  43. jsm says:
    @AndrewR

    Thanks. I keep saying that. If you truly believe that we White Americans “stole” the lands of the United States America from the tribes living here at the time and you truly “care so much about them,” then WHY would you be in favor of mass immigration? How is that not receiving stolen goods, making the immigrants just as guilty as — or more so than — *us*?

    Leftism isn’t so much a mental disorder as it’s just plain ol’ moronic.

    • Replies: @Lace
  44. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Who knows how historically astute the peaceful rioters and looters are. However, if any statues are to be pulled down then let them be those of Lincoln. Growing up it was always Lincoln this and Lincoln that in the school system, the semi-deity who saved the union and freed the slaves and yada yada. Streets, parks, bars, restaurants, portraits all over, he is as ubiquitous as NKorea’s Kim Il-Sung is to them. Only later when I actually looked into the facts did I discover it was a war of northern aggression and that he was a tyrant who got a lot of people killed. I was sold a bill a goods about him. So go ahead, tear down all Lincoln statues. Lincoln must go.

    • Agree: Lace, Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Lace
  45. anon[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    In fact, there is a statue of Lenin in Seattle. It is privately owned and resides on private ground, and thus so far has been safe from toppling or removal. Spot the irony.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  46. @Achmed E. Newman

    My breakthrough into the big league, at last;-) Feel free to copy without attribution. As Lennon sang: “Imagine no possessions, and that includes copyright too.” Then again, I don’t want to die as poor as that dude, so maybe attribution would be nice. Just say you heard it on my non-existent album, Sergeant Prepper’s Lonely Survivalist Club;-).

  47. Liza says:
    @Father O'Hara

    When I was a small child, I recall seeing a political cartoon in the newspaper with the caption, “Go home, Dag, and let us fight in peace.” I howled with laughter and never forgot that. I didn’t know who was fighting or why D.H. interfered, mind you. No idea what was going on. I just liked cartoons.

  48. @ic1000

    Based upon the the info. you provided the Presidio-based Tides Foundation resembles a funding cover for domestic espionage activity. A laundry for the treacherous billionaire class.

  49. Jack D says:
    @Tono Bungay

    “Asking for a friend” is not intended to safeguard you from the mob. It’s always meant ironically – you are really asking for yourself but the question is embarrassing so you pretend you are asking on behalf of someone else.

    Lennon is saying that he is embarrassed that white mobs are acting like such idiots.

  50. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    Sean Lennon looks like a spitting image of his dad!

  51. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Talented artists are never successful in today’s market. Name me one hit of the last 30 years that was musically talented or inspiring.

    For someone who has complained about Jewish dominance of media, you sure seem inclined to use their “standards” against Sean. I think you’re just a white trash moron who is mad that the most influential musician of the Sixties chose to abandon a white woman and marry a Japanese woman, which is the natural order of things for successful white men. I also noticed that Sean looks more like his dad than Julian, the offspring of John Lennon and a white woman, which is a thorn in the side for some.

    • Troll: AndrewR, HammerJack
    • Replies: @james wilson
  52. epebble says:
    @AndrewR

    Birth rates have been falling for 27 years. Births in the last 4 years are starting to look like mid 1970’s. 2020’s might resemble 1930’s.

  53. I’unno, given the chance, I’d topple statues of Abe Lincoln too. And raze the damn Lincoln Memorial while we’re at it. Saintly self-righteous prat. Most evil destructive president ever, destroyed this former federal republic and turned it into an insane centralized empire. Lincoln had one job — avoid a disastrous civil war — and he didn’t do it. The slaves were going to be liberated one way or another, and in the absence of the vindictiveness of a war, it could have been done rationally, with much less bitterness, and finished with a solution where the freedmen lived somewhere else of their own. It wasn’t the first-ever manumission in history, after all.

    Imagine there’s no negroes,
    It isn’t hard to do.
    No moving elsewhere for “good schools,”
    No rape and mayhem too.

    Imagine all the negroes
    Living somewhere else.

    • Replies: @Lace
    , @syonredux
  54. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous

    In March 2018, thousands of Facebook users shared a meme which asserts that President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the executions of 38 Native American warriors in 1862:

    Very stupid argument, that. 303 Dakota had been sentenced to hang for their actions in the Dakota War of 1862. Lincoln, in an act that would cost him votes in Minnesota, pardoned all but 38 of the men:

    When the death sentences were made public, Henry Whipple, the Episcopal bishop of Minnesota and a reformer of U.S. Indian policy, responded by publishing an open letter. He also went to Washington DC in the fall of 1862 to urge Lincoln to proceed with leniency.[29] On the other hand, General Pope and Minnesota Senator Morton S. Wilkinson warned Lincoln that the white population opposed leniency. Governor Ramsey warned Lincoln that, unless all 303 Sioux were executed, “[P]rivate revenge would on all this border take the place of official judgment on these Indians.”[30]

    Lincoln somehow – despite his many other pressing responsibilities in running the country and conducting the War – completed his review of the transcripts of the 303 trials in under a month; and on 11 December 1862, he addressed the Senate regarding his final decision (as he had been requested to do by a resolution passed by that body on 5 December 1862):

    Anxious to not act with so much clemency as to encourage another outbreak on the one hand, nor with so much severity as to be real cruelty on the other, I caused a careful examination of the records of trials to be made, in view of first ordering the execution of such as had been proved guilty of violating females. Contrary to my expectations, only two of this class were found. I then directed a further examination, and a classification of all who were proven to have participated in massacres, as distinguished from participation in battles. This class numbered forty, and included the two convicted of female violation. One of the number is strongly recommended by the commission which tried them for commutation to ten years’ imprisonment. I have ordered the other thirty-nine to be executed on Friday, the 19th instant.”[31]

    In the end, Lincoln commuted the death sentences of 264 prisoners, but he allowed the execution of 39 men. However, “[on] December 23, [Lincoln] suspended the execution of one of the condemned men […] after [General] Sibley telegraphed that new information led him to doubt the prisoner’s guilt.”[27] Thus, the number of condemned men was reduced to the final thirty-eight.

    Even partial clemency resulted in protests from Minnesota, which persisted until the Secretary of the Interior offered white Minnesotans “reasonable compensation for the depredations committed.” Republicans did not fare as well in Minnesota in the 1864 election as they had before. Ramsey (by then a senator) informed Lincoln that more hangings would have resulted in a larger electoral majority. The President reportedly replied, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862#Execution

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Barnard
  55. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    Even partial clemency resulted in protests from Minnesota, which persisted until the Secretary of the Interior offered white Minnesotans “reasonable compensation for the depredations committed.” Republicans did not fare as well in Minnesota in the 1864 election as they had before. Ramsey (by then a senator) informed Lincoln that more hangings would have resulted in a larger electoral majority. The President reportedly replied, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”[32]

    Given the ferocity of the Dakota War, such sentiments are understandable. White deaths were heavy (450–800 civilians plus 77 soldiers, vs 150 for the Dakota). And the Dakota fought with their customary savagery:

    There are numerous firsthand accounts by European Americans of the wars and raids. For example, the compilation by Charles Bryant, titled Indian Massacre in Minnesota, included these graphic descriptions of events, taken from an interview with Justina Krieger:

    Mr. Massipost had two daughters, young ladies, intelligent and accomplished. These the savages murdered most brutally. The head of one of them was afterward found, severed from the body, attached to a fish-hook, and hung upon a nail. His son, a young man of twenty-four years, was also killed. Mr. Massipost and a son of eight years escaped to New Ulm.[42]:141

    The daughter of Mr. Schwandt, enceinte [pregnant], was cut open, as was learned afterward, the child taken alive from the mother, and nailed to a tree. The son of Mr. Schwandt, aged thirteen years, who had been beaten by the Indians, until dead, as was supposed, was present, and saw the entire tragedy. He saw the child taken alive from the body of his sister, Mrs. Waltz, and nailed to a tree in the yard. It struggled some time after the nails were driven through it! This occurred in the forenoon of Monday, 18th of August, 1862.[42]:300–301

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  56. peterike says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Don’t look now, but ACB is going to be a squish. Right in the opening page of her testimony she brags how her adopted joggeress can deadlift as much as any [icky] boy at her school.

    That’s why I really dislike this pick. Any white person who adopts a black child is mentally and morally unsound and cannot be trusted.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  57. Anon7 says:

    OT: If Biden won’t commit to NOT engage in packing the Supreme Court, then Trump should immediately pre-pack the court by announcing his next five Justice nominations – vote them all in.

  58. peterike says:
    @anonymous

    I was sold a bill a goods about him. So go ahead, tear down all Lincoln statues. Lincoln must go.

    Agreed. It’s long since time we had a national conversation about Lincoln.

    But then, we never DO have those national conversations, do we?

  59. Barnard says:
    @syonredux

    One of the reason it cost Lincoln votes:

    The daughter of Mr. Schwandt, enceinte [pregnant], was cut open, as was learned afterward, the child taken alive from the mother, and nailed to a tree. The son of Mr. Schwandt, aged thirteen years, who had been beaten by the Indians, until dead, as was supposed, was present, and saw the entire tragedy. He saw the child taken alive from the body of his sister, Mrs. Waltz, and nailed to a tree in the yard. It struggled some time after the nails were driven through it! This occurred in the forenoon of Monday, 18th of August, 1862

    Don’t dare call them savages though.

  60. syonredux says:

    Protesters topple statues of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt in Portland

    Protesters in Portland, Oregon, pulled down statues of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt on Sunday evening and also vandalized some businesses, police said.

    The action happened the evening of an “Indigenous Peoples Day of Rage” — the day before the federally recognized Columbus Day — in which activists had called for people to start marching at 7:30 p.m., according to a flyer on social media.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/us/portland-statues-riot-trnd/index.html

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  61. Kylie says:
    @Franz

    “There he goes again, advice to non-whites on breeding more efficiently.

    Abraham Lincoln, race-traitor to the bone.”

    Agreed.

    You may be joking. But I am not.

    • Replies: @Franz
  62. prosa123 says:
    @Clyde

    Yoko, not talented??? You’ve obviously never listened to her masterful performance of Cambridge 1969.

  63. Anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Ghosts of Nipsey Hussle?

    No Lakers victory parade and celebration planned yet in L.A.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-10-12/no-lakers-victory-parade-and-celebration-planned-yet-in-la

    Not “planned.”

    “Yet.”

    I don’t think planning is a necessary antecedent to what is going to happen in Los Angeles.

    Black and lowlife celebrants will just materialize and it will happen. Will looting and shooting be a part of it?

    • Replies: @FPD72
  64. @Buffalo Joe

    https://www.complex.com/sports/2012/12/do-the-la-lakers-know-who-abraham-lincoln-is

    This story was quickly retconned. Kobe didn’t really mean what he said about his teammates. It was just a joke.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  65. Anon[546] • Disclaimer says:
    @prosa123

    I have to admit, I’m a fan of a select few of Yoko’s works, in a half serious, half “Mrs. Miller” way.

    Oh, here’s a favorite Mrs. Miller work:

  66. It’s funny how Antifa’s entire agenda magically mirrors what Europe wants for America.

    What does Europe want?

    – An America with open borders
    – De-incarceration, including total abolition of the death penalty
    – Constant scab picking about America’s past (though never Europe’s past)
    – Demonization of America’s long accepted heroes

    This has been Europe’s MO for many decades. Did Antifa simply pick it up by osmosis, or is this really about Soros checks?

  67. Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    Amy Barrett already had chi-com bat flu over the summer.

    SHE’S NEITHER AT RISK OF INFECTION OR CONTAGIOUS

    Still the abject GOP cowards put her up there wearing a goddamn mask.

    Thanks, Supercuck Mitch McConnell!

    • Replies: @Muggles
  68. @Franz

    Abraham Lincoln, race-traitor to the bone.

    Oh dear you might offend Republicans with that comment.

    Lincoln liked White people so much that he lied to them and sent their 18 year old sons to certain death in an effort to kill Southern Whites that didn’t own slaves but shared states with Whites that did.

    During this horrifying bloodbath he imprisoned over 1000 journalists for reporting the truth and he also lied about supporting the Liberia plan.

    Lincoln was the epitome of the ugly egalitarian. He believes and cherishes equality so much that he only needs to lie and kill White people to make it happen.

    What a great guy.

    • Replies: @Franz
    , @syonredux
    , @Sean
  69. @ic1000

    Buffett has spent the last several decades setting up Berkshire Hathaway to be a cash-machine. He’s not trying to “beat the market” like the millions of Wall Street grifters; he’s built an empire consisting of “toll-road” businesses – railroads, utilities and pipelines. And he owns over a third of Berkshire stock, soon to be transferred to the Gates Foundation. Ever since the first time I saw a website for a left-wing gun club, asking for “donations” to pay for “self-defense” and “medical supplies”, I had a feeling the arms race between patriots and well-funded revolutionaries was underway. Now, we see well armed black militias in Kentucky, Louisiana and elsewhere. The Not-Fucking-Around-Coalition – or whatever it’s called – with uniformed members armed with ARs, is in no way a grass roots club of concerned citizens. It is a well-armed private guerilla army for the NWO. Earlier this year, right before the COVID scam, at a gun-show I saw a young black man buy so much ammunition that he required a few trips with a dolly to shuttle it to his vehicle. He spent nearly $5,000 at the ammo tent at that one show! Hopefully the foot soldiers are skipping their training, because otherwise true American patriots are underestimating their adversaries. Folks, when hundreds of blacks march through the streets of your town, wearing bandanas, kevlar vests, carrying semi-auto rifles and shouting “black power”, it should serve as a warning shot to you that the oligarchs are mobilizing their armies and are preparing for USA 2.0.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes
  70. I always preferred Julian to Sean. His voice sounded more like his Dad too.

    Though it’s not surprising Sean is at least capable of questioning the mob. “How? He was raised by Yoko Ono?” Was he though? I imagine most of Sean’s upbringing consisting of nannies and others helping him while his mother, off in another room, tripped her head off “for art.”

  71. L. Guapo says:
    @International Jew

    The comments below the article give me hope.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  72. res says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Is that pre or post puberty? Are people really as clueless about relative development of the sexes as they seem? Next we will get to hear how sexism in school held her daughter back from keeping up with the boys as she became older.

    Is anyone surprised by the squish part? In any case, there should be a significant amount of daylight between her views and those of RBG.

  73. @Mr. Anon

    A distant ancestor of John Wilkes Booth? Or maybe blacks who resent emancipation?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  74. ic1000 says:
    @ChrisZ

    Re: Sean Cooper article about bankrolling BLM

    > Can we take this to mean that a certain group is starting to get nervous about the whole Woke thing?

    I don’t know anything about Tablet magazine, other than that Steve has based posts on its articles a few times (IIRC), and its home-page stories are mostly or entirely about Jewish-related stuff going on in America. Sean Cooper isn’t a name I recognize at all.

    I take a very different tack, based on my own experiences, which includes “Some of my best friends are.” This is not a monolithic ethnic or religious group, marching in lockstep. It’s old-fashioned and out of style, but some Americans are patriotic and some are “let the facts fall where they may” kind of people, and some are both.

    What I read was solid investigative journalism, those links that I had time to click, checked out. Unless I see reasons to think otherwise, I’ll keep thinking highly of Cooper and his editor.

  75. Kronos says:
    @Almost Missouri

    It would’ve made more sense if it occurred under Obama. With Obama being a distant relative to the Confederate President Jefferson Davis. That some vague ancestral gene sequence made Obama have unexplainable contempt for President Lincoln. It likely didn’t help that Obama’s political career started in Illinois, Lincoln’s home state. That likely triggered him endlessly.

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Bobby Rush discovered that Obama was part of a Neo-Confederate conspiracy to break up the United States? With only Rush and only a few aged Black Panthers standing in the way of such a diabolical plan?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  76. @Sergeant Prepper

    Haha, again! Yeah, I like that handle of yours, and anyway, thanks!

    It was twenty years before the ‘teens.
    Sargent Prepper bought bullets, band-aids and beans.
    He was talking one more time about the plan.
    Then shit did really hit the fan.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  77. Mr. Grey says:
    @wren

    Sean Lennon sounds like he’s taken the red pill if you read his twitter, kind of surprising considering his background.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  78. @Sergeant Prepper

    Imagine no possessions, and that includes copyright too

    I guess someone else was supposed to give up their possessions. Lennon needed his millions just like our liberal celebrities today.

    • Replies: @Sergeant Prepper
  79. @neutral

    The fact that it’s mostly whites tearing down the statues complicates things. I know what mass immigration is doing to demographic %s and cost/quality of living, making whites have fewer children as they are flooded by children of other races. That is a much stronger argument for a white genocide in my opinion. But then powerful Jews in the West seem all on board with the program and yet it would inevitably also wipe them out, already you see so many nice Jewish boys marrying Chinese women. Can it be both insanity and malice?

  80. @AndrewR

    Probably are only a few actual Native Americans in that battalion or whatever they call it. Just allies and wannabes.

    I was in South Dakota this summer, and a BLM protest progressed through the city. There were maybe one or two young Sioux guys involved. The other 30-40 individuals present were white, 80 percent female, being led by a very tall blond guy with a deep voice who kept shouting “we are on stolen land” and “black trans lives matter!”

    There were plenty of Natives downtown at the time, but they were mostly pleasantly drunk and cracking jokes outside the Native-run tourist trap store.

    • LOL: Lace
  81. syonredux says:

    Andy Ngo:

    “F— all you colonizers!…Everyone of you that’s against Black Lives Matter can f— the f— off.”

    Antifa rioters in the process of toppling the Portland statue of Roosevelt. They were soon successful in pulling it down. Video by rioter Tracy Lynn Molina.

  82. OT, In Berkeley the police have arrested a man, with no permanent address, for hanging a noose from a tree in Aquatic Park. Surprisingly, from the photo at Berkeleyside, it is an actual noose knot. DA has charged him with a terrorist hate crime. This is a major charge in a city where felons are freed to commit more felonies. Big problem, the man arrested is Jaime Robeledo-Espino.Espino said he was just doing a job Whites no longer do.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  83. @syonredux

    “Fix bayonets and charge the damn savages”! to quote General Wayne.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  84. @The Wild Geese Howard

    She won’t say the girl is the prettiest or the smartest,so…this stupid nonsense. Its kind of an insult,though, tapping into the racist trope that the black woman is valued for her strength and the amount of manual labor she can do,and not her hair! This is so exhausting!
    Come,young Miss Barret and help to my chair,such a strong girl!

  85. @Anon

    The take away from Lennon isn’t abandoning white women for a woman of another race but a rich and famous star abandoning beautiful women for an ugly one. Show me one other example.

  86. tyrone says:

    HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!….and may you see many more!

  87. @syonredux

    syon, Sigh, some school districts around here celebrate “Indigenous People’s Day”, as Columbus has been shit canned. Problem is, not many people are aware of how savage the “Noble Savages” were. Murder,rape, torture and kidnapping were commonplace long before the Europeans influenced their cultures. A Seneca acquaintance of mine refers to Mohawks as savages, in the Twenty First Century.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Dissident
  88. J1234 says:

    Why Was a Lincoln Statue Toppled in Portland?

    It means that Lincoln is no longer the American historical model for white conscience that he once was (whether he actually was one in real life or not.) I think that millions of young white Americans today would probably find John Brown to be a much more relevant and admirable white man from the 19th century than Lincoln, or at least a better person to model one’s “moral” behavior after. Of course, his statue has been vandalized, too (by Satanists possibly.)

    https://www.ksn.com/news/local/statue-of-abolitionist-john-brown-vandalized-in-kansas/

  89. Possumman says:

    Screeeeech—Squeeeeeal–Squaaaaawwwwkkkk—Hey Sean -Your Mother’s calling you!

  90. Jack D says:

    I met Sean Lennon once when he was a middle-schooler, and Yoko too, very briefly. This was in the late ’80s in NY. Sean was attending private school in NY and some friends of ours had a daughter in his class. The daughter decided to organize a class birthday party for Sean in Central Park. Her parents lingered nearby just to keep an eye on things and invited us – we would have a picnic while we were sitting around. Yoko, wearing her trademark dark glasses, came over to our blanket to thank the parents for organizing this (which in reality was the case) and she introduced herself : “Hi, I’m Yoko”, as if we didn’t already know who she was. A few pleasantries were exchanged and that was it. But I thought it was funny that she introduced herself in such a modest way. I’m not sure what the alternative is.

    I hear that Yoko is 87 now and gets around in a wheelchair. Sad.

  91. @wren

    “Invade the World, Invite the World” would be a great song. Maybe sung to the tune of “We Are the World.”

    It could go like this, adapted from the original, rather long and repetitive lyrics. (Stupid attempt follows):

    [MORE]

    There comes a time
    When we heed a certain call
    When Americans must come together as one
    There are people dying
    Oh, and it’s time to protect our lives
    The greatest gift of all

    We can’t go on
    Pretending day-by-day
    That everyone, everywhere is our concern.
    We’re all a part of America’s great big family
    And the truth, you know, sovereignty is what we need.

    We are Americans
    We live here
    We are the ones whose ancestors created the modern world
    Oh, there’s a choice we’re making
    We need to save our lives
    It’s true we have a better way, just you and me

    Oh, leave them alone
    So they know that someone respects them
    And their lives will be stronger and free
    As Man has learned by turning stones to bread
    And so we all make our own bread

    We are America
    We are the Citizens
    We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s protect it
    Oh, there’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me

    When you’re down and out, there seems no hope at all
    But if you just believe there’s no way we can fall
    Well, well, well, well let us realize
    Oh, that a change can only come
    When we stand together as one, yeah, yeah, yeah

    We are Americans
    We are the Citizens
    We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s protect it
    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

    We are Americans
    We are the Citizens
    We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s protect it
    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

    We are the Americans (are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (are the Citrizens)
    We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)
    There is a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

    Oh, let me hear you!

    We are the Americans (we are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (said we are the Citizens)
    We are the ones who make a brighter day so let start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)

    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me, come on now, let me hear you

    We are the Americans (we are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (we are the Citizens)
    We are the ones who make a brighter day so let’s start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)
    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me, yeah

    We are the Americans (we are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (we are the Citizens)
    We are the ones who make a brighter day so let’s start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)

    There’s a choice we’re making
    And we’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me

    We are the Americans (are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (are the Citizens)
    We are the ones who make a brighter day so let’s start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)

    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me

    We are America, we are the Americans (are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens, yes sir (are the Citizens)
    We are the ones to make a brighter day so let’s start protecting it (so let’s start protecting it)

    There’s a choice we’re making
    We’re saving our own lives
    It’s true we make a better day, just you and me, ooh-hoo!

    We are the Americans (dear God) (are the Americans)
    We are the Citizens (are the Citizens)
    We are the ones that make a brighter day so let’s start protecting it (all right, can you hear what I’m saying?)

    There’s a choice we’re making, we’re saving our own lives

    Don’t invade the world,

    Don’t invite the world.

    • Replies: @wren
    , @wren
  92. Franz says:
    @Kylie

    You may be joking. But I am not.

    Neither here.

    We had only one chance at a really terrific president.

    Mad Anthony Wayne died two years after his victory at Fallen Timbers. He was one of the few Revolutionary War generals who knew the score: One nation per one people, the end. The choice he gave the Shawnee in Ohio was leave or die and that’s why he won. With Wayne there would have been no messing around.

    But the good ones really do die young.

    It’s always annoyed me that that goofy cowboy star Marion Morrison stole Wayne’s name.

  93. @Anonymous

    Doesn’t Lincoln’s statue deserve to be toppled, for launching the Civil War and for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Southern men?

    And confiscating their property, which should be returned to their descendants, direct or lateral, without any choice in the matter.

    You Fire Eaters are a riot.

    Lincoln was convinced that keeping malarial territory with mulatto representation in Congress was worth the effort and cost in lives. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

    The Southern men, betrayed by their own race traitors, died not so much from slaughter (the Yankee wasn’t all that good a shot), but from disease and starvation. Think about it– with all the young white men busy at war, who the hell was supposed to grow and harvest the food to feed them? You’d have to import it, and the ports were blockaded.

    You can’t have a war without a workforce. The Union states, the white states, had one, as only half their young men went to war.

    Marx may have supported the Union, but Lenin was no doubt a student of the South. That’s whence he got “Who? Whom?”

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Anonymous
  94. Franz says:
    @John Johnson

    Oh dear you might offend Republicans with that comment.

    Hope so. I really do.

    Did they get 18 year old white boys to kill each other in 1861? Over a hundred and fifty years later they’re making sure 18 year old white boys don’t find work to support themselves. Their motto should be something like “A tradition of treason.”

    But I’m mainly miffed that they suckered me into voting for them once.

  95. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    A distant ancestor of John Wilkes Booth? Or maybe blacks who resent emancipation?

    No, just somebody who does not believe that the “greatness” of a President should be measured by the number of people who get killed in the wars he presides over.

  96. @Mr. Grey

    Yes, it’s encouraging. The truth is, if not for the Left’s iron grip on public discourse, we would see and hear from a lot more like him.

  97. Lace says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I didn’t know Day-Lewis was in retirement, which is welcome news. I didn’t see his Lincoln (and never want to), but yes, maybe a comedy–but he’s not the type to parody himself, and wouldn’t that be? He’s also taken so seriously as a ‘major actor’. His channelling of John Huston (and everybody noticed it) in There Will Be Blood was proof that his sort of preparing and research for a role pays off with the Academy buffoons, especially with a big story in NYT Sunday Magazine. I don’t think I’ve ever been more infuriated or repelled by a movie performance, and every time I think of it I see an image of the real John Huston and Jack Nicholson at the Catalina Casino in Chinatown, one of the greatest films ever made–I even made pilgrimages to the places it was shot–Lake Hollywood, Pt. Fermin, Alameda St, as well as Catalina….then I remember… He should have just stayed posh, was good in A Room With a View and The Age of Innocence. That *serious* kind of actor is always a big deal if they know how to present it, but I’ll take Al Pacino (even in recent lightweight things.)

  98. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous

    You’re confusing Lincoln with Jefferson Davis.

  99. syonredux says:
    @Redneck farmer

    “Mad” Anthony Wayne was one helluva guy. Amerind leader Little Turtle called him the “black snake who never sleeps.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Buffalo Joe
  100. Lace says:
    @anonymous

    I’m rather glad they tore down a Lincoln statue too–without knowing why, they’re so ignorant. If Voltaire, Cervantes have to go–and Ms. Bowzer’s ‘committee’ wants the Jefferson Memorial, Washington Monument, and Ben Franklin Statue ‘removed’, ‘relocated’, or ‘recontextualised’–this new ignorance is vaguely refreshing. And won’t ‘The White House’ have to be Rainbow or some such ‘diversity’ nonsense? I’m sure it’s been talked about and I just haven’t heard them say it yet. Just saw that statues of Jefferson Davis still survive at the Capitols of Alabama, Kentucky, and lots of school bearing his name. So they want everything ‘recontextualized’, since at this point, they’re not going to ruin D.C. and put up Mo Bettah Meatties. The statue-vandals have a long row to hoe, though, and probably too ‘stressed out’ at some point to get to all those hard-to-get-to places.

  101. Lace says:
    @jsm

    Yes, and of course the Negroes built all the Southern ante-bellum mansions, which surely must go. What’s more, they built all of ‘White America’, or claim to, so they themselves have stolen America from the Indians, although it was ‘against their will, because systemic racism’: OF COURSE they didn’t want to work!

    • Agree: jsm
  102. J.Ross says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Remember when anyone who objected to the vandalism inflicted upon Confederate memorials was forced to apologize for the Confederacy instead of, say, being seen as anti-vandalism? Remember when the likelihood of this vandalism expanding to founding fathers was slippery slope fearmongering? Now Lincoln and Churchill are not safe, and — isn’t there a statue of the infamous objectivity-believer Einstein in Brooklyn or Philadelphia?

  103. Altai says:
    @Anonymous

    They’re pushy, narcissistic, low trust and there’s going to be lots of them in every corner of the world that doesn’t explicitly ban them.

    • Agree: BB753
  104. @John Johnson

    Apparently he wrote those lines about “imagine no possessions” while living in his huge Georgian country house on his 72 acre estate at Tittenhurst Park near Ascot. Nice work if you can get it.

  105. Mr. Anon says:
    @syonredux

    @John Johnson

    Don’t be a goon.

    He didn’t say anything that was factually incorrect.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  106. J.Ross says:
    @Altai

    Because they’re intelligent and “act white”? And likely to become more prominent since here is a way to hire black people who probably won’t become a liability? Maybe. But they’ll probably be willing to go along with the anti-white program, and anti-whiteness will compress into a kind of aggressive affirmative action, with under-achievers denied the benefits they were promised. This West African angered the completely unhinged trust fund antifas and the lunatic journalists, but the more normal Democrats (who are currently brainlessly mouthing the worst unhinged ideas but will still call the cops) won’t have a problem.

  107. wren says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Bravo!!!

    I’ll get to work on “History of Golf Course Architecture” tonight.

  108. J.Ross says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Is he talking about a historical grievance, or present-day Canadian Mohawks, who are actually classic nationalist terrorists who are often accidentally based?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  109. wren says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Sean had a lot of fun with his buddy Michael Jackson, apparently.

    He wrote a song about it:

  110. @james wilson

    You have to listen to “Plastic Ono Band” (a brilliant self-portrait of psychological torment) to understand what was going on with Lennon and Yoko.

    The man was only thirty years old, and he had just walked away from the most successful musical act in living memory. He had been one of the most famous men in the world since his early twenties. Before that he had been a cult figure in Liverpool and Germany.

    Do you have any idea HOW MANY women he banged, mostly white? It would be impossible to impress such a person with just a pretty face.

    John fell for Yoko because they felt they were fellow artists, on a higher level than pop music, and they had a spiritual bond. She came from a vastly wealthy family, she didn’t need his fame or money, and she claimed at the time they met she had no idea who he was, they just clicked.

    This guy had been chased by mobs of groupies his entire adult life, everybody was scheming to get near him to get a piece of his action, so he fell for a wealthy weirdo who didn’t care about fame.

    Plus, Yoko in her prime actually was pretty hot.

    • Replies: @TWS
  111. So I take it that this dude has never heard of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, in which Yankee Jesus said some things that are problematic when t = currentYear…

    “I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold [political] office, nor to intermarry with white people”

    and

    “I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together on the footing of perfect equality, and, inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.”

    I’ve been waiting for YankeeJesus to get his turn on the Cancellation Train – not because he was a dyed-in-the-wool racist, but because the WokeBorg let his racism slide despite there being no individual more deserving of a kick in the reputational taint, in the whole of US political history (except maybe Kissinger).

    Tear down the Lincoln Memorial – I’ll help fund that GoFundMe.

  112. Lace says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    No, everything else Lincoln, but not the Memorial, because it’s the best one architecturally. THAT is the one that ought to be ‘recontextualized’, not the Jefferson Memorial or Washington Monument, as that idiot Miss Bowzer wants, since she can’t get them torn down or, more demurely, ‘relocated’. As though ‘Black Lives Matter Plaza’ was not already the obscenity of the new millennium–both in DC and NY, I don’t know where the others are, but they’re all blasphemous.

    • Replies: @BB753
  113. Muggles says:
    @Anonymous

    Re: Barrett having been affected by the COVID-19 flu this summer. That’s news to me. Source?

    Why do you care if someone else is wearing a mask?

    Does it offend your refined sense of fashion?

    So you can’t just be an non masker? You have to be anti masker for everyone? Shades of BLM…

  114. Muggles says:

    I wonder if any of the anti Columbus Day statue destroying antifa Red Guards have a one-way ticket back to Europe or wherever their ancestors were from? In their knapsacks or pockets.

    Just asking for a friend…

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Gordo
  115. Sean says:
    @John Johnson

    It wasn’t ridiculous to say what Lincoln did because the Comanche, who once dominated what is now Texas, were the only totally nomadic tribe and the most dreaded. Compare what Sheridan had to say on the duelling, gambling lifestyle of the Antebellum

    The young bloods of the South: sons of planters, lawyers about towns, good billiard-players and sportsmen, men who never did work and never will. War suits them, and the rascals are brave, fine riders, bold to rashness, and dangerous subjects in every sense. They care not a sou for ******s, land, or any thing. They hate Yankees per se, and don’t bother their brains about the past, present, or future. As long as they have good horses, plenty of forage, and an open country, they are happy. This is a larger class than most men suppose, and they are the most dangerous set of men that this war has turned loose upon the world. They are splendid riders, first-rate shots, and utterly reckless. Stewart, John Morgan, Forrest, and Jackson, are the types and leaders of this class. These men must all be killed or employed by us before we can hope for peace. They have no property or futures, and therefore cannot be influenced by any thing, except personal considerations.

    Lincoln was just a Lamarckian. Even among scientists the Darwinian synthesis did not become dominant until after WW2. Politicians like Lincoln giving Indians well meant advice thought living a certain way would alter the genetic nature of peoples, like stretching for high branches would directly enter into the heredity of of a giraffe and make its neck longer longer . That is why they thought blacks could rapidly become like whites if only they were given a white lifestyle and not discriminated against. To be a politicians today, one must still speak as if you believe that.. Hence the Lincoln Project Conservatives who are annoyed because Trump’s supporters are dubious about crypto-Lamarckian fairy stories.

    https://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21645996-one-american-six-now-hispanic-up-small-minority-two-generations-ago

    PREVIOUS immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation” […]

    Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce. By 2050, his study predicts, Hispanic workers will outnumber white ones in Texas by almost three to one, but without a change in education policy the state will be poorer and less competitive.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  116. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    I wonder if any of the anti Columbus Day statue destroying antifa Red Guards have a one-way ticket back to Europe or wherever their ancestors were from?

    I’m sure they don’t. Why should they? Who is going to make them go anywhere?

    On the other hand, I have no doubt some would be quite happy to provide you with a one-way ticket to a ditch in the countryside.

  117. @Franz

    Abraham Lincoln, race-traitor to the bone.

    Anyone who thinks Africans belong in an Anglo-Saxon nation is a race traitor by default. Lincoln was late to such treason, as opposed to, say Alexander Stephens, who gloried in it.

    Had our austral zookeepers hired white men at a living wage, as they should have all along, none of this would have happened. If they get sick, treat them. Or hire healthier whites.

    Were those extra, unjustified seats in Congress worth it? A white man was worth 66.7% more in that regard, anyway. Why the hatred of whites?

    • Replies: @Nico
    , @John Johnson
  118. @Muggles

    I wonder if any of the anti Columbus Day statue destroying antifa Red Guards have a one-way ticket back to Europe or wherever their ancestors were from? In their knapsacks or pockets.

    Happy Thanksgiving Day/Joyeux jour de l’Action de grâce


    Bruce County is probably busy with his horde of weekend guests. Perhaps our Urbane and Loutish friends aussi.

    • Thanks: Not Raul
  119. @syonredux

    Bizarrely, “Wayne” has been a faddish name among Britproles the last few decades, and “Brock” was rising among American boys until recently. What is this recent fascination with the enemy’s officers? We don’t name our sons “Saladin”. (Though there has been the occasional Omar.)

    Wayne Fontana and Carl Wayne were stage names to sound more American, as was Ringo Starr. “Wayne” was as alien to Brits as Nigel, Neville, Clive, Alistair, and Greame were to us Yanks.

  120. @guest

    Pathetic cope post. Sean Lennon looks almost exactly like his father; Julian looks like a bastard drug addict.

    • Replies: @guest
  121. @james wilson

    Sorry, but Yoko looked better. White men prefer Asian women, who are objectively more attractive.

    The headwinds of history are blowing in the face of white women every single day! Every day the John Lennon success story is repeated. Even his murderer maried an Asian woman.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @anon
  122. El Dato says:
    @JMcG

    There aren’t even any first waves in Africa.

    I hear China is just now suppressing a bit

    9 million in 5 days: China’s Qingdao launches citywide Covid-19 testing campaign after new cases arrive from abroad

    Qingdao authorities have announced a citywide testing campaign that will embrace an estimated 9 million inhabitants and last for 5 days, it emerged on Monday. Images that surfaced online showed local residents waiting in queues to undergo a Covid-19 test. Some of the test counters had already started working on Sunday night

    The blanket move appears to be an emergency response to six new and six symptomless cases recently discovered in the coastal city. Most of them were linked to the Qingdao Chest Hospital which treats mild and asymptomatic Covid-19 patients that came from overseas.

    Meanwhile:

    The Great Vaccinator: Bill Gates wants everyone to live underground until they are vaccinated and have bought at least one copy of a certified DRM-enhanced Windows 11 (ok, I made that part up):

    Bill Gates says life will return to normal only after SECOND generation of Covid vaccines rolled out and virus eliminated globally

    And also:

    Doctors in Australia demand end to Victoria lockdown while WHO says restrictions should not be primary course

    Letting coronavirus spread freely for ‘herd immunity’ is unethical, says WHO

    Off-Topic off this Off-Topic:

    Something is going on here with postmodern quasi-anime hair styles. I don’t know what it is but … let’s just say it’s unusual.

    Swift First Steps: Learn the fundamentals of building Swift applications for iOS, machine learning, and REST APIs

    I remember a Sci-Fi story from the 70s where the protagonist, arriving in the far future of 2050 or so, wondered whether he would ever get used to the green hair color that some girls affected. HAH!

    • Replies: @JMcG
  123. @prosa123

    MAKE IT STOP!

    whewwww, this touchy mousepad… got 23 seconds into that crap.

    • LOL: El Dato
  124. Nico says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Had our austral zookeepers hired white men at a living wage, as they should have all along, none of this would have happened. If they get sick, treat them. Or hire healthier whites.

    It was rather difficult in the 1600s and 1700s to treat malaria or yellow fever. Had there never been any contact at all between Africa and the Americas the situation may well have been very different, but alas we live in this world.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  125. @Mr. Anon

    As ye pull down, so shall ye be pulled down.

    The arrogant Southern oligarchs pulled themselves down by thinking their agricultural commodity economy capable of winning war with a white-majority, industrialized, productive portion of the land. They could’ve kept their peculiar institution for decades longer, but stupidly believed their own BS and attempted secession over the election of a President who had no original intention of abolishing slavery. The oligarchs also did their posterity no favors by mass importation and breeding of negroes. Thanks a lot, you greedy bastards.

    Modern defenders of the Confederacy are failing to draw parallels between slaver oligarchs then and mass immigration oligarchs now. Both have done lasting demographic damage to this nation for short-term personal gain, importing and enabling cheap labor instead of paying free citizen labor fair wages. Instead of defending what is in every sense a lost cause, why not make this comparison at every opportunity?

    • Agree: JMcG, JohnnyWalker123
  126. El Dato says:
    @Kronos

    I liked that movie with Colin Powell but the Clintonesque lady who had a Freudian problem was a bit much.

    With only Rush and only a few aged Black Panthers standing in the way of such a diabolical plan?

    “Expendables II: Oxycontin Deplorables”

    • LOL: Kronos
  127. Simon says:
    @Tono Bungay

    “Asking for a friend”??? Well, even if he’s safeguarding himself from the cancel mob, at least he asked the question.

    For God’s sake, it’s a joke. (As Jack explained nicely.)

  128. Neoconned says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I’m too young to be a Beatles nut & I’ve never been an Anglophile or a Lennon worshipper so i never understood what was so special about that idiot and his weirdo japanese wife.

    Im glad his son is at least trying to understand the insanity around h without resorting to Lennonism dogma.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @anon
  129. @Reg Cæsar

    Marx may have supported the Union, but Lenin was no doubt a student of the South. That’s whence he got “Who? Whom?”

    Don’t be so sure, it’s kept from leftists that while Marx believed in blank slate for Europeans and was somewhat of a feminist he wasn’t a racial egalitarian. So he basically believed that any random laborer could manage just as well as a factory owner but race does in fact exist.

    “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?”

    – Karl Marx

  130. @ChrisZ

    There are Jews named Cooper — probably changed from Cohen — but hard to imagine Jewish men named Sean.

  131. @Reg Cæsar

    Were those extra, unjustified seats in Congress worth it? A white man was worth 66.7% more in that regard, anyway. Why the hatred of whites?

    Lincoln is the type of White politician that hates us all and only cares about his legacy.

    He probably got called ugly too many times by White girls or something.

    There were also too many dopey White egalitarians that went along with his BS.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  132. FPD72 says:
    @Anon

    Will looting and shooting be a part of it?

    The question answers itself, at least in regards to looting.

  133. syonredux says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    What can you do. The antebellum South was run by madmen and degenerates.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @gcochran
  134. @Nico

    …but alas we live in this world.

    In “this world”, blacks are not known for their work capabilities. Nor were the local Indians, who were less able, or willing, to sucker the white man.

  135. @Kratoklastes

    “YankeeJesus” is hilarious, Krato! Also, I’m in agreement with you and the other Rebels about the guy.

  136. guest says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Sorry, what am I coping with? I have no dog in this fight.

    Sean Lennon looks half-Japanese. John didn’t. Case closed.

  137. guest says:
    @JohnPlywood

    White men prefer Asian women to what? Clearly not white women. What could you possibly be talking about?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
  138. @Lockean Proviso

    I agree with your 1st paragraph, L.P. However, I don’t think many people understand the States’ Rights aspect of this anymore. I don’t mean regarding the politics that went on for decades before that war. I just mean that once these Southern States decided to secede, they had a right to do so. There is nothing in the US Constitution, taken seriously back then, that says otherwise.

    Most Americans think of our States as nothing but provinces, because that’s pretty much what they’ve become. The Feral Gov’t says jump, and they ask “how high, sir?” That wasn’t the case back then. Robert E. Lee resigned his position to fight for his nation. His nation was Virginia. I think that’s something that Americans (I’m not including you) have long ago forgotten.

  139. @syonredux

    syon, the meaning of the horse’s hooves in a military equestrian statue. All four hooves down, served in the military. One hoof raised, wounded in combat. Two front hooves raised, killed in battle. All four hooves off the ground, killed in a Merry-go-round accident.

    • Thanks: Muggles
  140. syonredux says:
    @Mr. Anon

    His statement was pure goonishness.

    The Confederacy was run by morons who thought that South Carolina (1860 census, 301,302 free people vs 402,406 slaves) was the ideal human society.

    Think of it, people willing to kill White people because they loved owning Blacks….Talk about sick…

    If only the South had ignored ultra-crazy Calhoun and listened to Henry Clay:

    The American Colonization Society was organized in 1816. Mr. Clay, though not its projector, was one of its earliest members; and he died, as for the many preceding years he had been, its President. It was one of the most cherished objects of his direct care and consideration; and the association of his name with it has probably been its very greatest collateral support. He considered it no demerit in the society, that it tended to relieve slave-holders from the troublesome presence of the free negroes; but this was far from being its whole merit in his estimation. In the same speech from which I have quoted he says: “There is a moral fitness in the idea of returning to Africa her children, whose ancestors have been torn from her by the ruthless hand of fraud and violence. Transplanted in a foreign land, they will carry back to their native soil the rich fruits of religion, civilization, law and liberty. May it not be one of the great designs of the Ruler of the universe, (whose ways are often inscrutable by short-sighted mortals,) thus to transform an original crime, into a signal blessing to that most unfortunate portion of the globe?”

    Lincoln’s eulogy for Henry Clay

    http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/clay.htm

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Mr. Anon
  141. @J.Ross

    J, he refs lax for Six Nation games. So, I guess he means the ones he comes in contact with.

  142. @syonredux

    The antebellum South was run by madmen and degenerates.

    “Was”?

    The last non-pervert elected to South Carolina’s Class 2 US Senate seat was Burnet R Maybank, re-elected in 1948, and born in the 19th century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classes_of_United_States_senators#Class_2
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnet_R._Maybank

  143. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You can’t have a war without a workforce. The Union states, the white states, had one, as only half their young men went to war.

    What about all the black labor in the South? Blacks accounted for almost half the population in some Southern states.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Reg Cæsar
  144. anon[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest

    Plywood is a troll with yellow fever who pops up from time to time.

  145. @Sean

    Politicians like Lincoln giving Indians well meant advice thought living a certain way would alter the genetic nature of peoples, like stretching for high branches would directly enter into the heredity of of a giraffe and make its neck longer longer . That is why they thought blacks could rapidly become like whites if only they were given a white lifestyle and not discriminated against.

    Are you saying that Lincoln was naïve?

    The problem is that he made quotes like these:

    Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.

    I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.

    I think he was a racial realist that switched to the abolitionist cause even though he knew it would work against Whites in the future. I base that on his complete lack of action on Liberia during the war and his cruel treatment of southerners. By his actions he hated the south more than he loved the north. In fact I don’t think he ever loved anyone. He was just a bitter man that only pretended to value equality. As with todays conservative politicians he certainly didn’t view common Whites as his equal.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @JohnnyWalker123
  146. Lurker says:
    @Clyde

    My guess is he inherited his non-talent from his mother.

    Unfair! He may not be overly talented but he’s hardly in her A list tier of utter uselessness.

  147. @Clyde

    Yoko’s “Approximately Infinite Universe” from 1973 is a landmark album, filled with great tunes and performances and highly influential to new wave and ’80s and ’90s rock.

    Her talent wasn’t evident in her early screeching, but it is here. While it’s not on par with anything John Lennon did in the ’60s, I would even go so far to say that this album tops any Lennon solo effort (Lennon was no great shakes on his own, IMO).

    • Replies: @Clyde
  148. TWS says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    She looked like a blanket tossed over a clothesline.

  149. @Buffalo Joe

    Two back hooves raised: kicked in the head by the horse? Fled ignominiously from battle? Competed in rodeo or dressage events?

  150. @syonredux

    His statement was pure goonishness.

    The Confederacy was run by morons who thought that South Carolina (1860 census, 301,302 free people vs 402,406 slaves) was the ideal human society.

    Think of it, people willing to kill White people because they loved owning Blacks….Talk about sick…

    Lincoln could have let the South leave. He was not in a defensive position.

    Slavery was wrong but sending White 18 year olds into a line of cannon and musket fire is worse.

    Lincoln wanted a war and even his defenders know it. He incorrectly bet that the South would give up early and then keep the bloodshed going to preserve his legacy.

    I noticed you didn’t respond to his imprisoning of journalists. It’s not contended by anyone nor are his other constitutional violations. He not only imprisoned journalists but used to military to destroy their businesses.

    How would Republicans react if a Democrat president imprisoned every alt-right journalist that criticized him? Well that is what Lincoln did and Republicans look to him as some sort of hero. The same Republicans that still follow their Con Inc leaders that push “just need to stop teachers unions” race denial type garbage.

    Lincoln’s eulogy for Henry Clay

    http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/clay.htm

    A lofty speech a decade earlier and by his actions he had lost all interest in the Liberia plan by the time the war had started. He wanted to stick it to the south more than he wanted to act in the best interest of his country.

    Whites are literally killed daily by Blacks and here you are calling me a goon for criticizing Lincoln. Why don’t you move to Jackson MS and embrace Lincoln’s fine work?

    In the future when DNA is fully unraveled and the egalitarian lie is put to bed everyone will look back and wonder how Lincoln talked the north into starting the egalitarian war against nature that continues today. Who knows if America or statues of those bad White men will be even be standing then as our country has embraced madness over truth. That madness was started by a bitter egalitarian by the name of Abe Lincoln.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  151. Dissident says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    some school districts around here celebrate “Indigenous People’s Day”, as Columbus has been shit canned.

    This provides a great segue for me to present, on this day established in honor of Cristoforo Colombo, the much-acclaimed tribute made to the celebrated explorer by legendary NYC talk radio caller (Vintage) Frank of Queens, in a call many years ago now to the radio program of another legend in his own right, the late Bob Grant (born Robert Ciro Gigante).

    Hail Columbus!

    Downloadable:

    Incidentally, Frank has since fled not just the City but the State of New York and dubbed himself with the Solutrean name He of the First Blood

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  152. @Mr. Anon

    So is the Staples Center still standing ?After the Laker victory, an “initially peaceful celebration turned chaotic” as “rowdy” fans damaged more than 30 buildings and businesses and forced eight LAPD members to get medical treatment after being pelted with rocks and bottles.

    Steve, it’s your town – and this is your kind of story. Any good personal anecdotes from anybody you know who was there?

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/2020/10/12/arrests-damage-los-angeles-lakers-win-nba-championship/114266574/

  153. JMcG says:
    @El Dato

    Thank you. I can make neither heads nor tales of the waves of infection in any normal sense.

  154. Sean says:
    @John Johnson

    In 1862, Lincoln overruled his general and a mob to pardon 90% of the 300 Native Americans sentenced to death for participation in the Minnesota Dakota uprising, which featured many rapes and other atrocities against whites. Lincoln virtually refused to allow Northers soldiers to be shot for sleeping on guard duty.

    There was never a chance of the South winning that war. or of the North accepting an independant South that could form alliances with European powers. Regional hegemony was to valuable. Lincoln did what any US President would have had to do, his personal qualities were neither here nor there.

    In fact I don’t think he ever loved anyone.

    Lincoln was a sensitive man, and probably was primarily homosexual, so even if born in the South, humping the ass off the black women unpaid help and begetting mulatoes would not have been his thing, unlike many slave owners and overseers. Another few generations under slavery and the Southern whites would have all had a touch of the tarbrush, like Jeff Davis’s wife.

    As with todays conservative politicians he certainly didn’t view common Whites as his equal.

    The IQ difference between upper middle class whites and poverty prone whites is at least as great as that between black and white. But there are a lot of poor whites, hence the Lincoln Project.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-lincoln-project-gop-party-of-trump-60-minutes-2020-10-11/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  155. @Buffalo Joe

    All four hooves off the ground, killed in a Merry-go-round accident.

    But did he catch the brass ring?

  156. gcochran says:
    @syonredux

    Degenerates: James Henry Hammond

    • Agree: syonredux
    • Replies: @syonredux
  157. syonredux says:
    @gcochran

    Just in case anyone doesn’t know about Mr Hammond:

    James Henry Hammond (November 15, 1807 – November 13, 1864) was an attorney, politician and planter from South Carolina. He served as a United States Representative from 1835 to 1836, the 60th Governor of South Carolina from 1842 to 1844, and United States Senator from 1857 to 1860. He was considered one of the major spokesmen in favor of slavery in the years before the American Civil War.

    In the late 20th century, historians learned that Hammond as a young man had a homosexual relationship with a college friend, Thomas Jefferson Withers, which is attested by two sexually explicit letters sent from Withers to Hammond in 1826. The letters, which are held among the Hammond Papers at the South Carolina Library, were first published by researcher Martin Duberman in 1981; they are notable as rare documentary evidence of same-sex relationships in the antebellum United States.[9]

    Hammond’s Secret and Sacred Diaries (not published until 1989) reveal that his sexual appetites were varied. He described, without embarrassment, his “familiarities and dalliances”[2] over two years with four teenage nieces, daughters of his sister-in-law Ann Fitzsimmons and her husband Wade Hampton II.[2][3] He blamed his behavior on what he described as the seductiveness of the “extremely affectionate” young women.[2] The scandal “derailed his political career” for a decade to come after Wade Hampton III publicly accused him in 1843, when Hammond was governor.[10] He was “ostracized by polite society” for some time, but in the late 1850s, he was nonetheless elected by the state legislature as US senator.[11]

    Hammond’s damage to the girls was far-reaching. Their social prospects were destroyed. Considered to have tarnished social reputations by his behavior, none of the four ever married.[2]

    Hammond was also known to have had long-term sexual relationships with two female slaves. He took the first slave as a concubine when she was 18 years old.[2] Such behavior was not uncommon among white men of power at the time; their mixed-race children were born into slavery and remained there unless the fathers took action to free them.[11] Later, Hammond took one of the slave woman’s daughters as a concubine when the girl was 12; she was the only child of the woman who did not appear to be his.[2]

    His wife left him for a few years, after he began the relationship with the slave girl, taking their own children with her. She later returned to her husband.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Henry_Hammond

    THOMAS JEFFERSON WITHERS TO JAMES H. HAMMOND

    Columbia, South Carolina
    May 15, 1826

    Dear Jim:
    I got your Letter this morning about 8 o’clock, from the hands of the Bearer . . . I was sick as the Devil, when the Gentleman entered the Room, and have been so during most of the day. About 1 o’clock I swallowed a huge mass of Epsom Salts – and it will not be hard to imagine that I have been at dirty work since. I feel partially relieved – enough to write a hasty dull letter.
    I feel some inclination to learn whether you yet sleep in your Shirt-tail, and whether you yet have the extravagant delight of poking and punching a writhing Bedfellow with your long fleshen pole – the exquisite touches of which I have often had the honor of feeling? Let me say unto thee that unless thou changest former habits in this particular, thou wilt be represented by every future Chum as a nuisance. And, I pronounce it, with good reason too. Sir, you roughen the downy Slumbers of your Bedfellow – by such hostile – furious lunges as you are in the habit of making at him – when he is least prepared for defence against the crushing force of a Battering Ram. Without reformation my imagination depicts some awful results for which you will be held accountable – and therefore it is, that I earnestly recommend it. Indeed it is encouraging an assault and battery propensity, which needs correction – & uncorrected threatens devastation, horror & bloodshed, etc. . . .
    With great respect I am the old
    Stud,
    Jeff

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @Cido
  158. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Modern defenders of the Confederacy are failing to draw parallels between slaver oligarchs then and mass immigration oligarchs now.

    Or between mass immigration oligarchs then (Northerners, don’t you know) and now.

    I’m not defending the Confederacy. I’m just saying that Lincoln sucked. Because he did.

  159. Mr. Anon says:
    @syonredux

    His statement was pure goonishness.

    Again, what part of it was wrong?

    Think of it, people willing to kill White people because they loved owning Blacks….Talk about sick…

    Think of it – people willing to kill a lot of White people because a few of them loved owning Blacks.

    Yes, that is sick.

  160. Whiskey says: • Website

    Semi related, I’ve wondered if Putin or Xi are funding the NFAC idiots. They are poorly disciplined, naturally, one of the idiots shot himself at some demonstration. And they are the touchpoint of civil war in the Harris Presidency:

    First, they stage a triumphal demonstration through some small Southern town, and either words are exchanged of one of the bruthas grabs (likely an underage) White girl and shoots the relative or boyfriend that objects: father, mother, brother, etc.

    After that its, “why not YOLO” and the whole crew empties magazines like Robert De Niro’s crew in HEAT. Likely killing the small if existing police force, and flees. Possibly with some armed townsfolk in pursuit.

    The NFAC either go to ground or flee across State lines. At that point, President Harris has only one play possible — back the NFAC and announce arrests of the White townsfolk, and announcing “no charges” etc. with federal pre-emption. Which depending on the Governor could lead to the mustering of both a Texas Rangers like force to go into neighboring states and shoot-to-arrest the NFAC and arrest of Feds trying to arrest the original townsfolk. [There will be a natural tendency to do this since the Corporate Wing of the GOP is dead — the powers have Democrats for that, and Democrats have a No White Men Allowed policy. There are all sorts of ambitious politicians watching Trump go from Buffon to President and would like very much to sit in the Oval Office]

    Its one thing to endorse BLM when the media can keep a lid on the violence, but the NFAC crew themselves are likely be livestreaming their exploits and it will be all over the internet. Russia and China will make sure it is, if nothing else.

    And you’re likely to see copy cat stuff in other States, with different Governors, say Whitmer vs. Di Santis taking different stances over the issue of “Do Black people have the right to randomly kill Whites?” and Federal enforcement of same.

    Imagine a thousand Northfield Minnesota raids combined with the Symbionese Liberation Army and John Brown at Harper’s Ferry and you get the picture. Instant hot civil war.

    Which I think is Buffett’s play. My guess, and its only a guess, is he figures he can get the concession for running Uighur Style Work camps for White people.

    Think about it — Global Capitalism is dependent, utterly, on smart people being cheap in foreign lands. That was already fading ten years ago as China’s One Child Policy wreaks demographic havoc (China will grow old before being rich unlike Japan). Vietnam is in the same boat, and the other places are just too dumb.

    Dumb, stupid labor requires lots and lots of expensive capital investment, so that the product actually comes out halfway to spec. Intelligent labor forced cheap is the gold at the end of the rainbow for Global Capital and the dream is forced labor camps for White people. So that global capitalists can make cheap junk here at home with the profits even greater than China (less shipping cost).

    Buffett’s plan seems to be create a race-based civil war, use the Government to lock up all Whites in labor camps, work them to death for profit. Yep kindly old Warren Buffett, taking a page out of the Nazis.

  161. Anon[860] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest

    He’s referring to the research done on the data sets released by various online dating sites to researchers. There’s a graph in his post summarizing the findings. Asian women are clearly more popular than other races in online dating; black women are massively less popular. On the male side white men are most popular, with Asian men coming in last. By age, twenty year old women are most popular, and it’s nothing but downhill from there. Men on the other hand are most popular in their forties, and their popularity, while not level, never takes a big dive.

    Steve had written about the race preference stuff in a magazine article way back, before online dating, based on marriage data and the like.

    Brutal, but real. The Asian American manosphere tends to be uncomfortably candid about this stuff. There’s a lot of insecurity. And black female YouTubers are also very candid about their plight. And there’s a black male YouTube community that gives advice to black women on the traits that are turning off black men.

    • Replies: @guest
  162. Thomasina says:
    @Neoconned

    …i never understood what was so special about that idiot.”

    OMG. One-half of one of the greatest songwriting duos of all time, and he’s an idiot?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  163. @Buffalo Joe

    Tail raised means whoever he was, the guy was full of horse manure.

    Horse facing away from public view means he was a horse’s ass.

    Horse’s mouth open means his horse was Mr. Ed.

  164. black sea says:
    @syonredux

    Well, that’s certainly an earful. . . .

    Let me rephrase that.

  165. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @JMcG

    For the simple reason that the whole Covid thing was planned to keep Trump from being re-elected and those that planned this keep on re-seeding the virus in pockets around the United States and then the compliant media say it’s a second, third wave or whatever they are told to say. Whether China is behind this or a China/Democratic Party/George Soros/Bill Gates partnership, it’s hard to say. If the demoncrats win and the Covid suddenly disappears, we will have our answer.

    • Replies: @Anon
  166. Clyde says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    Yoko’s “Approximately Infinite Universe”

    It is on you tube and has no screeching. So it sounds legit. You say it was very influential, I won’t argue. Her musicians are Elephant’s Memory which I saw a few times back then. Probably on TV.

  167. @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’m not sure of the context, but isn’t she just saying something nice* about one of her kids? Maybe she’d have preferred that the girl pass her Grade 6 violin, but you take your kids (even adopted) as they are.

    * I personally wouldn’t think a daughter’s deadlifting was something to brag about, but maybe that is what she’s best at.

  168. @L. Guapo

    You’re right. And I’m stunned to see that slate.com still has comments.

  169. Gordo says:
    @Muggles

    Yes we know what you mean.

  170. @The Wild Geese Howard

    ACB is going to be a squish.

    The left shouldn’t get so hysterical about Republican picks for the SCOTUS. Half of them turn out to be more-or-less liberal anyway. When a Democrat puts a justice on the Court, they’re reliably left-wing. When a Republican does, they’re generally not reliably right-wing.

    her adopted joggeress can deadlift as much as any [icky] boy at her school.

    Would she say her daughter has “solid, sturdy limbs and ankles; good-sized feet”?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  171. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    First of all, the North had most of the heavy industry (munitions factories, etc.) to begin with. And a free white labor force is more skilled and motivated than an enslaved black population. You can imagine that blacks were especially not motivated to help the Confederate cause and would often desert if they were anywhere near Union lines. The Confederates also had to keep a certain # of white people of military age behind in order to guard the slave population and prevent slave insurrection. Yes the Confederate were able to get SOME labor useful to the war effort out of their black population but not as much as their numbers would indicate.

  172. Anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    If Trump had been sensible on how he responded, instead of minimizing it and then acting erratic, he would have still won. As it is, it looks like a Republican wipeout.

  173. @Anonymous

    What about all the black labor in the South?

    Oxymoron alert!

  174. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The left shouldn’t get so hysterical about Republican picks for the SCOTUS.

    I watched some of the hearings this morning. The Left is not being hysterical by their usual standards (compare Kavanaugh, over whom they went absolutely nuts). The senile Democrat Senators make speeches (“without evidence” as the NYTimes likes to say about everything that Trump claims) about how ACB is going to gut Obamacare and then they ask her a question and she says (as all nominees now say) that she cannot comment on matters which may come before the Court (which is everything). Then they ask her another question and it’s the same answer. It’s just kabuki theater and not at all hysterical.

    I think that ACB is shielded somewhat by the fact that she is a woman and that she has her large, half-Negro family sitting right there in front of her. Are they gonna call her momma a rapist and make that little Haitian girl cry on camera? The Dems have not made any serious effort to assassinate her character in the way that they tried with Kavanaugh. Of course they are going to vote against her anyway, but they are not trying to destroy her.

  175. guest says:
    @Anon

    Is that the best measure? Obviously people prefer getting together with their own kind in real life. I hardly believe online dating is some free realm where they get to pursue their true desires.

    Perhaps online dating tells us about appeal across racial lines.

    Black women truly are least attractive across racial lines. However, black men still mate with them.

    Asian men do not possess high sexual status, yet Asian women get with them all the time. Overwhelmingly often. That can’t all be pressure from grandma.

  176. Neoconned says:
    @Thomasina

    You agree with his manifesto from Imagine?

  177. Travis says:

    a better question may be why any statues of any white people are allowed to remain standing. How would Kamala Harris answer this ?

  178. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned

    I’m too young

    Exactly. You’ve never been exposed to great pop/rock music. It was never part of the youth culture from 2000 onwards.

    It’s like saying the same thing about classical music or jazz or great filmmaking Millennials have grown up with smartphones and psychobabble

  179. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Very few desirable white men choose Asian women
    Lennon was an exception
    Most white men involved with Asian women are HBDers who would otherwise be paired with C-grade white women

    You should consider getting yourself a girlfriend and stop worshipping cute Asian girls from afar

  180. syonredux says:

    Andy Ngo:

    After tearing down century-old bronze statues of Lincoln & Roosevelt, antifa built their own statue in downtown Portland. They say it is an elk. The previous bronze elk statue was set on fire & severely damaged by antifa during the summer rioting.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  181. Jack D says:
    @syonredux

    Are you sure it wasn’t a Trojan Horse? I would check for trap doors.

  182. @John Johnson

    Do you have any evidence that Lincoln reneged on the Liberia plan?

  183. Muggles says:
    @John Johnson

    How would Republicans react if a Democrat president imprisoned every alt-right journalist that criticized him?

    We may find out the answer to your (rhetorical) question soon enough.

  184. Because they hate America and they hate white males.

    The fact that Lincoln ended slavery and saved the Union means nothing to them.

  185. Cido says:
    @syonredux

    Wow ! Mr Hammond ate everything available on the table.

  186. @John Johnson

    Lincoln is the type of White politician that hates us all and only cares about his legacy.

    Lincoln saved the South from suicide, and thus ruined the rest of the land.

    There were also too many dopey White egalitarians that went along with his BS.

    There were almost no white egalitarians anywhere in the US in 1861 or 1866. The best part of the Fourteenth Amendment, sadly never enforced, was Section 2’s limiting Congressional apportionment to qualfied voters, and their wives and children. No bloated contingents from counting livestock, as before.

    Unionists wanted Negroes to be free, and to be free of Negroes. That latter attitude was strongest in the Unionist mountain regions of Dixie.

  187. @Sean

    …the Minnesota Dakota uprising, which featured many rapes and other atrocities against whites.

    Indians raped? Was it just in New England where they wouldn’t touch the white woman? There was almost no inbreeding in that part of the country, even with tribes allied with our whites against the French and later British.

    I descend from Hannah Duston’s maidservant; the two were abducted in a notorious raid and held for some time. But there is nothing in the accounts about rape.

    • Replies: @Sean
  188. @james wilson

    The take away from Lennon isn’t abandoning white women for a woman of another race but a rich and famous star abandoning beautiful women for an ugly one. Show me one other example.

    He’s first in line to the throne.

  189. Sean says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ethan is searching for Debbie not to rescue her, but with the aproval of her kin, murder her for being a white woman sleeping with an Indian, even though she was kidnapped as a child. The only reason Ethan doesn’t is kill Debbie is he isn’t really her uncle, he’s her father.

    So women of yesteryear (and many men still) were not going to want it said that they had been raped. Of course it is quite possible that the Indians in your ancestor’s case maintained a professional distance, after all they weren’t the CEO of McDonald’s. Anywaym there were rapes and Lincoln pardoned Indians who had fought in battles but not assaulted women or committed other atrocities.

  190. BB753 says:
    @Lace

    They ought to leave the Lincoln Memorial, provided they fix a few things and rename it the Martin Luther King Memorial, with a statue of MLK sitting upon a lush throne, African-style. Make America More Like Wakanda!

  191. syonredux says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Planning on replacing it with the Black Mammy?

    The Mammy Washington Almost Had
    In 1923, the U.S. Senate approved a new monument in D.C. “in memory of the faithful slave mammies of the South.”

    One sculptor’s model showed an Aunt Jemima-like figure holding a white child as two other children clung to her dress. These were “pickaninnies,” the artist explained, “trying to have their mother pay attention to them instead of devoting all her time to the white children.” Another sculptor proposed a seated Mammy with an infant at her breast, set within a columned fountain. The monument’s backers favored this design and said it would be titled “The Fountain of Truth.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/05/the-mammy-washington-almost-had/276431/

    Confederate nostalgia is really bizarre…..

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